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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,365 --> 00:00:18,801 I'm 68. 2 00:00:20,629 --> 00:00:22,326 And I feel like I'm 28. 3 00:00:24,459 --> 00:00:26,461 But I sit next to guys on airplanes 4 00:00:26,635 --> 00:00:30,334 and a guy has, you know, got a grey suit on. 5 00:00:30,508 --> 00:00:32,577 He's lost most of his hair and he's sweating. 6 00:00:32,597 --> 00:00:36,036 He goes, "I'm going to be 55 next week." 7 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:38,038 And you look at this guy and go, 8 00:00:38,473 --> 00:00:41,824 I'm 20 years older than you, you know, something like that. 9 00:00:41,998 --> 00:00:44,696 And you realize that his job, his lifestyle 10 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:46,568 has nearly killed him. 11 00:00:46,742 --> 00:00:48,613 The stress of his lifestyle. 12 00:00:48,787 --> 00:00:50,441 What if that guy, 13 00:00:50,615 --> 00:00:52,965 on the weekends, had a rock and roll band? 14 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:55,533 I guarantee you he'd feel a hundred times better 15 00:00:55,707 --> 00:00:57,755 because he has something to look forward to. 16 00:00:57,927 --> 00:00:59,451 It would be something that he... 17 00:00:59,537 --> 00:01:01,389 While he's doing his stressful job, he's going, 18 00:01:01,409 --> 00:01:03,846 "Yeah, but I got to learn the chords to 'Gloria.'" 19 00:01:18,252 --> 00:01:20,341 If you've always wanted to be a rock star 20 00:01:20,515 --> 00:01:22,082 and come on, really, who didn't? 21 00:01:22,256 --> 00:01:23,759 But you listened to your parents 22 00:01:23,779 --> 00:01:25,456 when they told you to get a real job, 23 00:01:25,476 --> 00:01:27,565 there may still be hope. 24 00:01:27,739 --> 00:01:30,133 John Entwistle is the first one to tell me 25 00:01:30,307 --> 00:01:32,483 about this fantasy camp. 26 00:01:32,657 --> 00:01:34,833 And he said, "Would you do it?" And I thought, 27 00:01:35,007 --> 00:01:37,251 "Well, why not?" You know, it just sound like a bit fun. 28 00:01:37,271 --> 00:01:39,577 We've all secretly dreamed of being Rock Gods, 29 00:01:39,751 --> 00:01:42,145 jamming out in front of adoring fans. 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,626 Welcome to rock and roll fantasy camp 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,020 where you'll experience the complete rock and roll lifestyle 32 00:01:48,195 --> 00:01:50,936 without the lawsuits and STDs. 33 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:53,025 Woo! STDs! 34 00:01:53,809 --> 00:01:56,357 My first thoughts were, "All this seems kind of cheesy." 35 00:01:56,377 --> 00:01:58,794 I never dreamed I would ever actually have a food fight 36 00:01:58,814 --> 00:02:00,250 with the Grand Funk Railroad. 37 00:02:00,424 --> 00:02:03,514 And then an hour later, be eating fish 38 00:02:03,688 --> 00:02:05,690 that Ted Nugent caught himself. 39 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:07,484 I couldn't wrap my head around it. 40 00:02:07,562 --> 00:02:09,477 I... I had to experience it. 41 00:02:09,651 --> 00:02:12,199 You know, I was kind of worried that it might just be like a... 42 00:02:12,219 --> 00:02:14,960 - A fan thing. - This camp rocks. 43 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:17,247 I remember thinking, what a great opportunity to get back 44 00:02:17,267 --> 00:02:19,835 and work with people from all walks of life. 45 00:02:25,493 --> 00:02:28,539 And they're coming here to experience 46 00:02:28,713 --> 00:02:31,803 and do something they've never done before in their lives. 47 00:02:31,977 --> 00:02:34,545 The hardest I ever worked in one day in my life. 48 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:39,159 Looking forward to another good bashing at rock camp. 49 00:02:51,301 --> 00:02:54,304 Be afraid. Be very afraid. 50 00:04:00,501 --> 00:04:02,644 I think what's kept the camp around so long is 51 00:04:02,764 --> 00:04:05,767 these rock stars, they get a spark. 52 00:04:06,202 --> 00:04:07,879 Because it's really about the music. 53 00:04:07,899 --> 00:04:10,250 - That's great. - It's pure. 54 00:04:10,424 --> 00:04:12,034 Okay. 55 00:04:15,037 --> 00:04:16,647 - Hello. - Teddy. 56 00:04:16,734 --> 00:04:17,934 It's David. 57 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,520 This next song features 58 00:04:19,694 --> 00:04:22,044 Mr. Teddy "Zig Zag" "Big Bag" Andreadis, 59 00:04:22,218 --> 00:04:24,133 the Greek on the harmonica. 60 00:04:26,483 --> 00:04:28,180 Tony, how are you? 61 00:04:28,268 --> 00:04:30,313 I'm good, David. How are you doing? 62 00:04:38,060 --> 00:04:40,932 - Vinny, you there? - I'm here. 63 00:04:50,028 --> 00:04:51,639 Let me tell you about your band. 64 00:04:51,813 --> 00:04:54,143 Um, on drums, you got... You got Paul de la Carta. 65 00:04:54,163 --> 00:04:58,036 Rob Cohen is a vocalist. I love that Blake Meinhardt. 66 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:00,169 I've seen that kid grow up in camp. 67 00:05:00,256 --> 00:05:02,258 - That's cool. - Artists love to give back 68 00:05:02,432 --> 00:05:07,002 because they realize that their success is based on the fan. 69 00:05:07,176 --> 00:05:08,873 You have Cammy Fisher, 70 00:05:09,047 --> 00:05:11,746 who has come to the camp previously as a drummer, 71 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,314 and she wants to be a vocalist, this camp. 72 00:05:14,488 --> 00:05:17,122 Can you imagine a guy like you going from drums to vocals? 73 00:05:17,142 --> 00:05:19,275 You... You'd get more chicks. 74 00:05:19,362 --> 00:05:21,344 Well, not the way I sing. I might lose the chicks. 75 00:05:21,364 --> 00:05:23,105 Tony, thank you so much. 76 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,063 Are you excited about Vegas? 77 00:05:25,150 --> 00:05:27,065 I'm looking forward to it. I always... 78 00:05:27,152 --> 00:05:29,091 I like working with Paul. He's a great, great human being. 79 00:05:29,111 --> 00:05:30,808 Okay, we'll be in touch. 80 00:05:30,895 --> 00:05:32,355 - I'll see you in Vegas. - Thank you. Bye. 81 00:05:32,375 --> 00:05:33,637 Okay, bye. 82 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:39,884 I grew up in Hackensack, New Jersey, really as a child. 83 00:05:39,904 --> 00:05:43,604 So I... I attribute the success being at a young age 84 00:05:43,778 --> 00:05:45,954 and, uh, going to synagogue with my father. 85 00:05:46,128 --> 00:05:50,175 My father was a cantor and... And I was the only kid there. 86 00:05:50,611 --> 00:05:53,040 I learned to talk to people that were older than me, 87 00:05:53,135 --> 00:05:55,639 and they looked to help me out, they were just so sweet. 88 00:05:55,659 --> 00:05:57,269 You know, I was the Cantor's son. 89 00:05:57,444 --> 00:05:58,860 And it really gave me the confidence 90 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,534 that I could talk to anyone. 91 00:06:03,275 --> 00:06:06,191 It is the huge resort hotel, which is the best bet 92 00:06:06,278 --> 00:06:08,565 for the city dweller who is looking in the country 93 00:06:08,585 --> 00:06:10,892 for the same amusements he has in town, 94 00:06:10,979 --> 00:06:13,982 but with fresh air and sunshine added. 95 00:06:14,156 --> 00:06:15,636 The Catskills was a place 96 00:06:15,810 --> 00:06:17,525 where we went to camp in the summer. 97 00:06:17,551 --> 00:06:19,315 They were places where people would go, 98 00:06:19,335 --> 00:06:20,858 two hours outside New York 99 00:06:21,032 --> 00:06:22,710 and they would basically take a week 100 00:06:22,730 --> 00:06:24,558 and go up there, stuff their faces 101 00:06:24,732 --> 00:06:26,864 and they'd go swimming, they'd play bingo. 102 00:06:27,038 --> 00:06:28,672 And then every night there was a... 103 00:06:28,692 --> 00:06:30,457 A... a show with, uh, a singer and a comedian. 104 00:06:30,477 --> 00:06:32,435 Look at that, what he's doing? 105 00:06:33,001 --> 00:06:34,635 What do you think the boy was doing? 106 00:06:34,655 --> 00:06:37,092 - Sawing a dog in half. - It was camp for adults. 107 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:41,052 I became a waiter in the hotels in the Catskills. 108 00:06:41,226 --> 00:06:43,838 My brother's a drummer, he had a Jewish rock band. 109 00:06:44,012 --> 00:06:45,492 I wanted to be in the band. 110 00:06:45,666 --> 00:06:47,798 I tried, I played one gig on bass. 111 00:06:47,972 --> 00:06:49,539 I was so bad. 112 00:06:49,713 --> 00:06:51,367 My dad turned to me and he said, 113 00:06:51,541 --> 00:06:53,828 "Why don't you go out and book your brother's band 114 00:06:53,848 --> 00:06:56,004 and then you can book six other bands at the same time?" 115 00:06:56,024 --> 00:06:58,505 Don't become an artist, be an entrepreneur. 116 00:06:59,157 --> 00:07:01,253 And here I was booking comedians and singers. 117 00:07:01,377 --> 00:07:02,857 When I collect the money 118 00:07:03,031 --> 00:07:04,621 after the Saturday night show on Sunday, 119 00:07:04,641 --> 00:07:07,122 the owners would take off $25 120 00:07:07,296 --> 00:07:08,868 because the comedian wasn't funny 121 00:07:08,906 --> 00:07:10,952 or the singer didn't do a Yiddish song. 122 00:07:11,126 --> 00:07:13,543 It got me so frustrated because I knew the show was great. 123 00:07:13,563 --> 00:07:15,391 I was there. 124 00:07:15,565 --> 00:07:18,873 I'll never forget, uh, Dr. Jay showed up to camp. 125 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:23,268 When I saw 2,000 kids running up to Dr. Jay, 126 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,923 I said, "This is the business I want to be in." 127 00:07:26,097 --> 00:07:27,775 That's when I became a sports agent. 128 00:07:27,795 --> 00:07:30,145 I said, I want to represent athletes instead. 129 00:07:30,232 --> 00:07:32,016 David Fishof is an agent who lists 130 00:07:32,103 --> 00:07:33,801 Phil Simms, Vince Ferragamo 131 00:07:33,888 --> 00:07:35,846 and Hacksaw Reynolds amongst his clients. 132 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:39,154 Basically, I try and negotiate the best contracts possible 133 00:07:39,328 --> 00:07:41,156 and get them the most money. 134 00:07:41,243 --> 00:07:43,550 Phil Simms, you've just won the Super Bowl. 135 00:07:43,637 --> 00:07:47,162 - What are you doing next? - I'm gonna go to Disney World. 136 00:07:47,336 --> 00:07:51,166 David, you're, uh, neither an attorney nor a former player. 137 00:07:51,340 --> 00:07:53,037 What are your qualifications? 138 00:07:53,211 --> 00:07:55,672 Um, I started basically in the entertainment business, 139 00:07:55,692 --> 00:07:57,781 and I believe professional sports is 140 00:07:57,955 --> 00:07:59,670 in... in its own way, show business. 141 00:07:59,827 --> 00:08:01,611 Getting commercials and promotions. 142 00:08:01,785 --> 00:08:04,832 I'm going to bring this back to its knees. 143 00:08:04,919 --> 00:08:07,269 ♪ Oh-la-la, Sasson ♪ 144 00:08:08,705 --> 00:08:11,491 ♪ Oh-la-la, Sasson ♪ 145 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:16,452 I'm sharing office space with different music managers. 146 00:08:16,626 --> 00:08:18,672 Earth, Wind and Fire's manager, 147 00:08:18,846 --> 00:08:20,978 Meatloaf's manager and record label. 148 00:08:21,152 --> 00:08:23,459 Madonna's manager, Shep Gordon, 149 00:08:23,633 --> 00:08:25,397 who was representing Teddy Pendergrass at the time, 150 00:08:25,417 --> 00:08:27,028 and Alice Cooper, The Ramones. 151 00:08:27,202 --> 00:08:29,073 Everyone has gold records on the wall, 152 00:08:29,247 --> 00:08:31,119 and I love the creativity 153 00:08:31,293 --> 00:08:33,164 about this record they were recording. 154 00:08:33,338 --> 00:08:37,821 And so I... I started getting bored with professional sports. 155 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:11,594 ♪ I'm gonna play a song ♪ 156 00:09:11,681 --> 00:09:13,814 A little bit of Rock and Roll ♪ 157 00:09:16,686 --> 00:09:18,296 My name is Tammy Fisher. 158 00:09:19,254 --> 00:09:22,562 You are in Lanoka Harbor in lovely New Jersey, 159 00:09:22,736 --> 00:09:24,955 down the shore, as we say. 160 00:09:25,608 --> 00:09:27,175 On the home front, 161 00:09:27,349 --> 00:09:29,331 I have a wonderful man that I've been married to 162 00:09:29,351 --> 00:09:31,005 for quite a long time. 163 00:09:33,529 --> 00:09:35,879 I'm a mom. I have two great, beautiful daughters. 164 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:39,274 I'm very, very blessed and very lucky. 165 00:09:39,448 --> 00:09:41,755 And I think I have a very good life. 166 00:09:43,278 --> 00:09:45,585 ♪ Get down on that ♪ 167 00:09:47,238 --> 00:09:49,569 They have a special thing, and I've used it before, 168 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:52,287 it's kind of funny, but it's called Monkey Butt Paste. 169 00:09:52,461 --> 00:09:53,897 And literally, yeah, 170 00:09:54,071 --> 00:09:56,214 they put it down here so it catches the sweat. 171 00:09:56,291 --> 00:09:58,336 I was like, what is this for? 172 00:10:26,060 --> 00:10:29,454 If I'm having a really bad day, I'm putting on bandana. 173 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:31,543 Anything to bang my head, to scream. 174 00:10:35,330 --> 00:10:37,593 It's the screaming metal, I don't know why. 175 00:10:37,767 --> 00:10:40,901 I find solace in the screaming metal. 176 00:10:46,950 --> 00:10:49,474 That takes my mind away from 177 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,608 the guy who fell asleep next to me on my bus and commute. 178 00:10:52,782 --> 00:10:54,479 I've had many people do that. 179 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:56,287 They fall asleep in my lap, fall asleep, 180 00:10:56,307 --> 00:10:58,355 drool on my shoulder like disgusting things. 181 00:11:14,151 --> 00:11:15,849 I'm an accountant 182 00:11:16,023 --> 00:11:19,069 and I work for a pretty high profile public company. 183 00:11:21,506 --> 00:11:23,247 It's a... It's a tough job. 184 00:11:23,421 --> 00:11:26,642 I'm one of the very few female vice presidents there. 185 00:11:29,079 --> 00:11:31,105 I have to make my team feel like I know everything 186 00:11:31,125 --> 00:11:32,735 and trust me, I don't. 187 00:11:33,388 --> 00:11:35,762 Obviously, you are aware that, yes, our team takes training 188 00:11:35,782 --> 00:11:37,609 and development very seriously here 189 00:11:37,784 --> 00:11:41,048 to enhance your skill set with regards to 190 00:11:41,222 --> 00:11:42,919 variance reporting and analysis. 191 00:11:43,093 --> 00:11:45,617 I know. Really exciting topic, right? 192 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:47,837 No claps? Come on. 193 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:49,709 Tough crowd. 194 00:11:50,187 --> 00:11:52,082 So how long you've been doing this band camp? 195 00:11:52,102 --> 00:11:54,452 Uh, let me see, I'm in my third year 196 00:11:54,626 --> 00:11:57,064 and coming up on my fifth camp. 197 00:11:57,238 --> 00:11:59,544 Wow. What's your favourite moment? 198 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:02,722 Uh, my... my back massage from Rob Halford. 199 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:04,811 It doesn't get any better than that. 200 00:12:04,985 --> 00:12:07,204 Nice, so do you learn a lot with him? 201 00:12:07,378 --> 00:12:10,318 Oh my God, I've learned so much. Every single camp, I go there. 202 00:12:10,338 --> 00:12:11,862 You know, you get in a room with 203 00:12:11,905 --> 00:12:13,477 four other people you don't know, 204 00:12:13,602 --> 00:12:15,018 and everybody wants to play a different song. 205 00:12:15,038 --> 00:12:16,953 And half of them I never even knew. 206 00:12:17,127 --> 00:12:19,283 And it's like, the counsellor will go, "Just wing it, do it." 207 00:12:19,303 --> 00:12:21,851 And I've had to learn new songs every single time I go. 208 00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:23,200 - Must be hard. - So it pushes me. 209 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:24,787 Yeah, it's scary. 210 00:12:24,961 --> 00:12:27,268 Would you rather play drums or sing? 211 00:12:27,442 --> 00:12:29,749 I don't know, the singing is new and scary to me. 212 00:12:29,923 --> 00:12:31,272 - Let's see. - Okay. 213 00:12:31,446 --> 00:12:33,274 - Yeah. - It's going to be tough. 214 00:12:33,448 --> 00:12:35,885 Oh, New York is so rock and roll. Everything goes. 215 00:12:36,059 --> 00:12:38,975 I see a caped Batman almost every other morning. 216 00:12:39,149 --> 00:12:41,151 Running down from Port Authority, you know? 217 00:12:41,325 --> 00:12:43,177 You know what? That's rock and roll in my bar. 218 00:12:43,197 --> 00:12:44,546 Go ahead. Go for it, Batman. 219 00:12:52,815 --> 00:12:54,251 Started the same way for us 220 00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:56,320 as it probably is for the rest of you guys. 221 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:58,801 You know, going over your buddies house, smoking some pot 222 00:12:58,821 --> 00:13:00,867 and jamming out to a rush record. 223 00:13:02,259 --> 00:13:05,349 You can see the fingerprints on the... on the "O." 224 00:13:05,523 --> 00:13:07,221 You see those? 225 00:13:07,395 --> 00:13:09,729 Those are the fingerprints that were by Jeff Beck. 226 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:11,529 Those are his fingerprints. 227 00:13:11,703 --> 00:13:14,837 And under the M, that's Eric Clapton's fingerprints. 228 00:13:15,011 --> 00:13:17,666 So that thing is now worth $100,000. 229 00:13:22,584 --> 00:13:24,151 ♪ I thought love was... ♪ 230 00:13:24,325 --> 00:13:26,501 David Fishof was a mythical character 231 00:13:26,675 --> 00:13:28,503 because he was the gentleman 232 00:13:28,677 --> 00:13:30,439 who had put The Monkees back together 233 00:13:30,505 --> 00:13:33,943 and had helped relaunch them in the mid to late 1980s. 234 00:13:34,117 --> 00:13:35,969 You don't want to take credit for the idea? 235 00:13:35,989 --> 00:13:37,405 - Yeah, that's all right. - In all... 236 00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:39,102 - In all fairness, it was... - Go wide. 237 00:13:39,122 --> 00:13:40,884 - Go wide. - Micky, who's idea was it? 238 00:13:40,907 --> 00:13:43,280 In all fairness, it was, uh, a guy named David Fishof 239 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:45,108 who in last couple of years has put together 240 00:13:45,128 --> 00:13:48,479 a Happy Together Tour, a nostalgic concert show 241 00:13:48,653 --> 00:13:50,796 that toured around the country, did very well. 242 00:13:52,092 --> 00:13:55,051 David very successfully revived this tour, 243 00:13:55,225 --> 00:13:57,619 kind of like thinking outside the box. 244 00:13:57,793 --> 00:13:59,514 I don't know what prompted him to do it, 245 00:13:59,534 --> 00:14:02,058 made him think that he could be successful doing it. 246 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:06,367 He's had all this success, and you wonder, 247 00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:08,784 how much does he really know about what he's doing? 248 00:14:08,804 --> 00:14:10,327 Somebody once described David 249 00:14:10,501 --> 00:14:12,982 as a guy who took the yarmulke to another level. 250 00:14:13,156 --> 00:14:16,029 Now, thanks to MTV and syndication, 251 00:14:16,203 --> 00:14:17,682 The Monkees are hot again. 252 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:19,096 Look, he's eating bananas. 253 00:14:19,249 --> 00:14:20,449 Is that it? 254 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,865 David is the only agent that I know 255 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:29,781 who could say he represented sports figures and a Beatle. 256 00:14:30,826 --> 00:14:33,742 David Fisher, he came over to London and he said, uh, 257 00:14:33,916 --> 00:14:37,354 "Do you want to go on tour?" I was like, "Let me think." 258 00:14:37,528 --> 00:14:38,878 And then I said yes. 259 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:42,403 Well, I met David Fishof in 1989 260 00:14:42,577 --> 00:14:44,274 when he produced Ringo Starr 261 00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:47,060 as All-Starr Band in his first tour. 262 00:14:47,234 --> 00:14:49,192 And he really did the world a favour. 263 00:14:49,366 --> 00:14:51,455 Ringo hadn't toured on his own 264 00:14:51,629 --> 00:14:54,154 and now it's, uh, many, many, many years later, 265 00:14:54,328 --> 00:14:57,809 and Ringo still tours almost every summer. 266 00:14:57,984 --> 00:14:59,699 You know, I'm not a rock and roller. 267 00:14:59,724 --> 00:15:02,058 I'm the last guy that... That's a rock and roller. 268 00:15:02,118 --> 00:15:05,023 And part of being in rock and roll, it's a lot of hanging time 269 00:15:05,121 --> 00:15:07,297 I turned to Ringo after the third show. 270 00:15:07,471 --> 00:15:09,453 I remember we were in Buffalo and I said, uh, 271 00:15:09,473 --> 00:15:11,151 "I'm going to go home and I'll see you 272 00:15:11,171 --> 00:15:12,650 in Chicago in two weeks." 273 00:15:12,824 --> 00:15:14,478 And he turned to me he said, uh, 274 00:15:14,652 --> 00:15:16,765 "Remember you promised me you're going to be with me?" 275 00:15:16,785 --> 00:15:18,375 I said, "Well, that was agent talk. 276 00:15:18,395 --> 00:15:20,615 You know, I don't really go on these tours." 277 00:15:20,789 --> 00:15:22,379 I remember calling my wife and saying, 278 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,033 Okay, I'll see you at home in eight weeks. 279 00:15:24,053 --> 00:15:26,142 "I'm going on the road with Ringo Starr." 280 00:15:26,229 --> 00:15:29,189 And out on the road, something happened that changed my life. 281 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,388 We're backstage for the fourth show of the tour, 282 00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:34,716 Nils Lofgren, Clarence Clemons comes over to me at dinner 283 00:15:34,803 --> 00:15:36,631 and tell me they're quitting 284 00:15:36,718 --> 00:15:39,135 because Joe Walsh and Levon Helm are having a fight. 285 00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:41,157 They want me to come and break it up. 286 00:15:41,244 --> 00:15:44,552 And I had just mortgaged my home to finance the tour. 287 00:15:45,553 --> 00:15:47,381 Yeah, we had a great time. 288 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:50,297 We got him good. 289 00:15:50,471 --> 00:15:52,473 - Just chill out. - You think you got it... 290 00:15:52,647 --> 00:15:54,431 We had set him up completely. 291 00:15:54,605 --> 00:15:58,044 And Levon I were screaming at each other. 292 00:15:58,218 --> 00:15:59,567 When he walked in, 293 00:15:59,741 --> 00:16:02,570 I pushed Levon and he pushed me back 294 00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:06,313 and he took the beer bottle and broke it on his road case. 295 00:16:06,487 --> 00:16:10,230 So it was a broken bottle and came over and stabbed me. 296 00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:12,125 - Hey! Jesus! - Goddammit man, cut it out. 297 00:16:12,145 --> 00:16:14,799 - Come on. - You got a show now. 298 00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:16,758 I had fake blood. 299 00:16:16,932 --> 00:16:20,588 I started bleeding profusely and David was just... 300 00:16:20,762 --> 00:16:23,156 Now wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. 301 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:25,636 Come on, man. Come on. 302 00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:27,682 Get out of here. 303 00:16:32,861 --> 00:16:34,819 I walked away and I said to myself, 304 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:37,431 "Wow, these guys are nuts." 305 00:16:37,605 --> 00:16:40,129 But I realized how much fun these guys have. 306 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:44,177 Documented. 307 00:16:44,351 --> 00:16:46,855 And that's how I came up with idea of rock roll fantasy camp. 308 00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:51,010 What if I could give this to people, to a fan to enjoy 309 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:54,187 and see what it's like to be with all these rock stars? 310 00:16:57,407 --> 00:17:00,410 I completely understand why anybody 311 00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:03,239 who's never been to a rock and roll fantasy camp 312 00:17:03,413 --> 00:17:06,764 would be apprehensive about coming because I was. 313 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:09,289 But I walk into the room 314 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:12,074 and I'm going like, "Wow, this sounds awful, 315 00:17:12,248 --> 00:17:14,468 but look at the fun they're having." 316 00:17:16,339 --> 00:17:19,429 And behind every young camper, there's always 317 00:17:19,603 --> 00:17:23,825 incredibly supportive family. 318 00:17:27,263 --> 00:17:28,786 All right. 319 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,137 What key is this song in, Blake? 320 00:17:31,789 --> 00:17:33,139 It's, um, 321 00:17:33,313 --> 00:17:34,618 like it's in E. 322 00:17:34,792 --> 00:17:36,403 Great. 323 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,492 Music. 324 00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:42,278 It has definitely strengthened my and his relationship. 325 00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:44,260 If we're in the car, we're driving somewhere, 326 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,629 I'll ask him a question 327 00:17:45,803 --> 00:17:47,176 and say, "Blake, who produced this album?" 328 00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:49,024 And then he'll spit it out. 329 00:17:50,286 --> 00:17:52,506 - What key is this in? - It's in E. 330 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,421 - It's in E? - Yeah. 331 00:17:54,595 --> 00:17:56,249 He knows who the producer is. 332 00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:58,753 He knows where it was produced at, at what studio. 333 00:17:58,773 --> 00:18:00,601 This one sounds like it's in A. 334 00:18:00,775 --> 00:18:03,560 He even knows songs down to the writing credits of, 335 00:18:03,734 --> 00:18:05,954 you know, who actually wrote the song. 336 00:18:07,956 --> 00:18:09,610 There'll be some obscure, 337 00:18:09,784 --> 00:18:11,940 it will be like a Zappa song or something will come up 338 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,675 I'm like "He don't know Frank Zappa," and he'll just be... 339 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:19,707 Wow. It's Slash. 340 00:18:19,881 --> 00:18:22,405 Blake, at a very young age between, 341 00:18:22,579 --> 00:18:24,474 I'd say, three or four, he was diagnosed with autism. 342 00:18:24,494 --> 00:18:27,802 - Is it? - Blake got a Alice Cooper doll. 343 00:18:27,976 --> 00:18:30,631 As a parent to hear those words it's like, 344 00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:32,937 "Yo... 345 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:34,983 what did we do wrong? 346 00:18:37,812 --> 00:18:39,596 Blake would not communicate. 347 00:18:40,031 --> 00:18:42,174 He didn't really start talking until age five. 348 00:18:42,251 --> 00:18:43,992 I mean, he wouldn't say anything. 349 00:18:45,385 --> 00:18:48,214 - Find it Blake. - Come on. 350 00:18:50,216 --> 00:18:55,351 You look for something to make your child happy. 351 00:18:56,352 --> 00:18:58,639 I mean, I played guitar, and Blake would sit on the couch. 352 00:18:58,659 --> 00:19:00,993 I would sit there, and I'd start strumming chords. 353 00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:04,101 It got to a point where at age ten, he said, 354 00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:06,232 I want to start taking guitar lessons. 355 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,104 Told my wife, I said, 356 00:19:09,278 --> 00:19:11,612 we'll bring him out to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 357 00:19:13,761 --> 00:19:15,714 You know what better way? Baptism by fire. 358 00:19:15,806 --> 00:19:17,614 Throw him out there and just, you know, 359 00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:20,420 I mean, I won't put him in harm's way or anything, 360 00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:23,604 I said, let's just try and see what he'll do. 361 00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:55,977 For starter, uh, boys are back in town 362 00:19:56,151 --> 00:19:58,414 and, uh, I just want to jam, man. 363 00:19:59,502 --> 00:20:02,375 The transformation has been unbelievable. 364 00:20:03,854 --> 00:20:06,620 He lives and breathes music, there's nothing more important. 365 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,212 Like that just... It's his world. 366 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:09,643 And he's a hard worker. 367 00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:11,484 So that passion clicked in his head 368 00:20:11,601 --> 00:20:14,691 and that's why we're here. 369 00:20:17,564 --> 00:20:19,043 He's a happy kid. 370 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:20,742 You can't ask for anything more. 371 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:28,184 When I went to the fantasy camp, 372 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:30,359 it was interesting to me, the age group. 373 00:20:30,533 --> 00:20:33,710 You would have a 15 year old kid playing drums 374 00:20:33,971 --> 00:20:37,323 and a 45 year old dentist on guitar. 375 00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:39,870 That's one of the things you have to get past 376 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,263 when you sing with these guys. 377 00:20:41,283 --> 00:20:42,656 You look around the band, you go, 378 00:20:42,676 --> 00:20:44,310 "Wow, if this band were a real band, 379 00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:46,473 it would be the weirdest band ever, but cool." 380 00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:50,403 We're talking about rock and roll fantasy camp 381 00:20:50,423 --> 00:20:52,207 and it's rocking and rolling. 382 00:20:52,381 --> 00:20:56,385 I did my first camp in Florida, um, on the beach. 383 00:20:56,472 --> 00:20:58,257 All at the Eden Rock Hotel, 384 00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:00,041 at a five day, four night, 385 00:21:00,128 --> 00:21:02,435 first time ever rock and roll fantasy camp. 386 00:21:02,522 --> 00:21:04,959 Dreamed up by a promoter when he was touring with 387 00:21:05,046 --> 00:21:07,091 some guy named Ringo Starr. 388 00:21:12,227 --> 00:21:14,011 The biggest thing in our business is 389 00:21:14,185 --> 00:21:17,972 everyone's scared to be labelled as hip, as not hip. 390 00:21:19,147 --> 00:21:22,759 I... I never believe not to do anything because it's not hip. 391 00:21:22,933 --> 00:21:25,501 You do something because it's good, it's entertaining, 392 00:21:25,675 --> 00:21:27,938 and if you have an idea, you make it happen. 393 00:21:28,112 --> 00:21:30,269 That the greatest people can be intrigued by rock and roll. 394 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:31,574 Here's an opportunity for everybody 395 00:21:31,594 --> 00:21:33,118 to get a chance to get involved. 396 00:21:33,248 --> 00:21:34,820 When I saw the names on the list, 397 00:21:34,858 --> 00:21:36,556 when I first saw it, I was like, 398 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:38,886 "All these guys are be in the same place at one time?" 399 00:21:38,906 --> 00:21:41,323 These fans, and they are going to say to their friends, 400 00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:43,998 You dipstick, you should have been there, I told you. 401 00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:47,001 You just want to put this finger on that note. 402 00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,004 There's this genuine respect and love for the music 403 00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:51,527 that we did in those days. 404 00:21:51,701 --> 00:21:53,529 All the press came out. 405 00:21:53,703 --> 00:21:55,685 About a week later, I'm watching The Tonight Show, 406 00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:58,039 and there's Jay Leno and he's doing his monologue. 407 00:21:58,186 --> 00:21:59,820 He said, Jerry, hear about this rock and roll 408 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,102 fantasy camp they have? 409 00:22:01,276 --> 00:22:02,843 He said, "For $5,000, 410 00:22:03,017 --> 00:22:05,129 you can jam with a bunch of B rock and roll stars." 411 00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:06,934 He said, "For $5,500, 412 00:22:07,108 --> 00:22:08,959 you could check yourself in the Betty Ford Clinic 413 00:22:08,979 --> 00:22:11,373 and jam with a bunch of A rock and roll stars." 414 00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:14,637 We got a lot of press, a lot of media, 415 00:22:14,811 --> 00:22:17,466 and we signed up about 15, 20 people. 416 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,426 It was such a dreadful experience financially. 417 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,819 You know, I chalked it up to, 418 00:22:22,993 --> 00:22:25,561 "Okay, I have five great ideas in a row, 419 00:22:25,735 --> 00:22:27,868 never going to do it again." 420 00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:29,957 And that's what life is as a promoter. 421 00:22:30,131 --> 00:22:32,176 You know, you take your chances. 422 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:37,747 Articles were coming out in... In Entertainment Weekly 423 00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,662 and you were reading about this. 424 00:22:40,446 --> 00:22:42,297 One day I got a phone call from Citibank. 425 00:22:42,317 --> 00:22:43,794 They wanted to do a commercial. 426 00:22:47,278 --> 00:22:49,890 Sam begged and pleaded, so I sent him to camp. 427 00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:52,394 We'd earned lots of points with our new Citi Thank You Card. 428 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:55,374 He even hangs out with the camp director. 429 00:22:56,679 --> 00:22:58,202 Just like that. 430 00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,997 Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp kind of 431 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:01,447 just showed up in pop culture. 432 00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:03,207 Bones did an episode. 433 00:23:04,861 --> 00:23:06,689 Yeah! 434 00:23:06,863 --> 00:23:08,758 Gift certificate to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 435 00:23:08,778 --> 00:23:10,563 Now, what's that? 436 00:23:10,737 --> 00:23:13,499 You're going to be singing with Roger Daltrey from the Who. 437 00:23:13,957 --> 00:23:17,352 ♪ People try to put us down ♪ 438 00:23:17,526 --> 00:23:19,398 I sang with Roger Daltrey. 439 00:23:19,572 --> 00:23:21,182 Good job. 440 00:23:21,356 --> 00:23:23,314 I can now die. 441 00:23:24,054 --> 00:23:26,013 Ellen did it for a comedy show. 442 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:29,045 I'm talking about having fun. I've got a bad song in my head. 443 00:23:29,146 --> 00:23:31,041 And with your help, I think we can perform it 444 00:23:31,061 --> 00:23:33,252 very poorly in front of people who will pretend 445 00:23:33,368 --> 00:23:35,196 just as poorly to enjoy it, 446 00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:37,787 because that's what rock and roll fantasy camp is all about. 447 00:23:37,807 --> 00:23:39,896 My root beer, Hash. 448 00:23:39,983 --> 00:23:41,811 Simpsonswas amazing for us. 449 00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:45,249 Hello, campers. 450 00:23:45,336 --> 00:23:48,165 One day I was driving to work at The Simpsons 451 00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:50,060 and I'm listening to the Howard Stern Show, 452 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,734 and he was promoting this thing 453 00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,128 called Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 454 00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:55,956 Entertainment Weekly has listed it 455 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:58,480 as one of the top 25 episodes. 456 00:23:58,654 --> 00:24:01,135 - Paparazzi to the left. - I got them. 457 00:24:05,618 --> 00:24:07,251 The whole thing about the rock camp 458 00:24:07,271 --> 00:24:09,273 is that I end up learning new things. 459 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,451 I mean, a lot of really good players come through, you know, 460 00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:14,583 and, uh, rubbing elbows with everybody 461 00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:17,151 it's fun on this journey. 462 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,376 - Ready to order? - I... I am. 463 00:24:25,551 --> 00:24:28,684 - How about the mushroom burger? - All right. 464 00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:31,034 They call me Pistol 465 00:24:31,208 --> 00:24:33,828 because when I was younger, I listened to a Motown album 466 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:35,497 and I'm like, this is... This sounds great. 467 00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:37,476 And keep in mind, I'm in the fifth grade 468 00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:39,501 and I'm reading the liner notes and it says, 469 00:24:39,521 --> 00:24:41,131 Richard "Pistol" Allen on drums. 470 00:24:41,305 --> 00:24:43,244 And I'm like, that's who I want to play like, 471 00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:44,831 Richard Pistol Allen. 472 00:24:45,005 --> 00:24:46,672 Mind you, knew nothing about drums. 473 00:24:46,746 --> 00:24:48,312 I just knew I like that man. 474 00:24:59,410 --> 00:25:01,151 Fries are freshly cut. 475 00:25:01,848 --> 00:25:04,807 Oh, and the ketchup, fresh. 476 00:25:05,939 --> 00:25:07,767 Right off the vine. 477 00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:10,160 There's a book that I recall, The Healing Drum. 478 00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:12,316 It goes back into Africa and it talks about 479 00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:15,383 when children are born into the tribes themselves, 480 00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:18,647 they are raised to be master drummers in the tribes. 481 00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:22,259 All the communication is... Is done through drums 482 00:25:22,433 --> 00:25:24,328 because that is the heartbeat of what we do. 483 00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:26,568 We walk in rhythm, we talk in rhythm, 484 00:25:26,742 --> 00:25:28,352 we blink our eyes in rhythm. 485 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:31,268 Everything that we do, uh, is surrounded by rhythm. 486 00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:34,445 The drummers responsibility in the... in the band is... 487 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:36,622 Is essential. 488 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,885 That's my rhythm. 489 00:25:39,712 --> 00:25:41,627 See? That's that constant heartbeat. 490 00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:44,717 My job is to lock it in and stay there and give them something 491 00:25:44,891 --> 00:25:47,272 that they can move to because they feel the rhythm. 492 00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:54,944 When I was younger, I went to church with my dad 493 00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:58,078 because he was the most important person in my life. 494 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:01,429 - Morning, Fong. How are you? - Hi. 495 00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:03,237 I think it's important for us to have 496 00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:04,934 something or someone that we believe in. 497 00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:06,521 Thank you. Bye-bye now. 498 00:26:07,304 --> 00:26:08,828 See you next week. 499 00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:13,963 There's been so many opportunities for me 500 00:26:14,137 --> 00:26:16,966 to be around people that did drugs, that were in gangs. 501 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:19,752 And I grew up in the heart of that in L.A. 502 00:26:21,623 --> 00:26:25,061 A lot of my friends, they became gang members. 503 00:26:25,235 --> 00:26:27,150 Uh, they got involved in drugs. 504 00:26:27,324 --> 00:26:29,848 And those are things that I just wasn't interested in. 505 00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:34,224 Partly so because I saw my brothers and sisters fall 506 00:26:34,244 --> 00:26:37,683 victim to that stuff and I saw how much it hurt my dad. 507 00:26:38,684 --> 00:26:42,296 And... And I really think it sent him to an early grave. 508 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:44,583 So I, again, I probably still need to work through it. 509 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,280 But I have a lot of resentment towards them 510 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,954 because they deprived me 511 00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:51,392 of the love and growing up with a father. 512 00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:53,350 The God had his hand 513 00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:55,962 in seeing that I didn't fall victim to that. 514 00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:59,095 So somehow he put drums in my life. 515 00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:13,568 I really think that if it wasn't for music, 516 00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:14,981 I wouldn't be here today 517 00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:16,983 or I don't know what I would be doing. 518 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:20,813 Music has gotten me through a lot of things. 519 00:27:21,596 --> 00:27:23,467 It's my foundation. 520 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,145 You can take anything else away from me, 521 00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:26,737 but don't take this away from me. 522 00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:28,516 You know, I have to have this. 523 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:33,869 I love it because I always make sure as a counsellor 524 00:27:34,043 --> 00:27:36,002 that my band, whether we're good or not, 525 00:27:36,176 --> 00:27:38,134 is that they're having a good time. 526 00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:40,856 You know, you look at what your band is 527 00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:42,641 and you go, "Okay, this person can play. 528 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,837 This person can kind of play, 529 00:27:45,011 --> 00:27:48,188 this person can sing but kind of can't play." 530 00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:54,977 Uh, guy's number one rule of camp is 531 00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:57,763 inmates don't run the asylum, right? 532 00:27:57,937 --> 00:28:00,896 So you guys, when you take your fans, you take control of them, 533 00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:03,290 and in the end, they will thank us. 534 00:28:03,464 --> 00:28:06,293 - And, right, Teddy? - Absolutely. 535 00:28:06,467 --> 00:28:08,121 You make it work. 536 00:28:08,295 --> 00:28:11,167 You know, like, there's no... There's no I in band. 537 00:28:19,393 --> 00:28:21,003 Some of this goes way back. 538 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:25,791 First concert ever is up here somewhere. 539 00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:29,751 Iron Maiden, March 9th. 1985. 540 00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:33,233 This is a memory that I will never forget. 541 00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:36,715 I would have been 13 or 12 at the time. 542 00:28:36,889 --> 00:28:39,630 I remember my parents who are just... they're very 543 00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:41,874 straight-laced and very conservative parents, 544 00:28:41,894 --> 00:28:43,765 wonderful parents, by the way. 545 00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:46,226 But they really didn't want me to go to heavy metal concerts. 546 00:28:46,246 --> 00:28:49,249 They made sure that one of my friends' parents went with us. 547 00:28:49,858 --> 00:28:51,573 So we go to this Iron Maiden concert 548 00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,645 and, uh, I remember, you know, kind of like rocking out. 549 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:57,257 But then I remember looking back and seeing, 550 00:28:57,692 --> 00:29:01,609 you know, my friend's mom is just like taking a joint 551 00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:03,393 from one of the other people 552 00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:05,593 who is in the audience and is like smoking out. 553 00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:08,964 And I'm just like, really? This is... this is our chaperone? 554 00:29:09,138 --> 00:29:11,010 Uh, so mom, that's true story. 555 00:29:12,054 --> 00:29:13,752 The coolest is this poster here, 556 00:29:13,926 --> 00:29:16,319 which is me on stage with Judas Priest. 557 00:29:16,493 --> 00:29:19,583 This is modelled after a poster that was in my room 558 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:21,949 back in the day, and I had to fight really hard 559 00:29:22,064 --> 00:29:24,398 to be able to put heavy metal posters on my walls. 560 00:29:24,893 --> 00:29:26,939 Judas Priest finally made it up there. 561 00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:39,212 It's a total dream of mine come true. 562 00:29:40,474 --> 00:29:42,389 But my mom's in the crowd, 563 00:29:42,563 --> 00:29:44,913 like, watching, cheering, so excited, 564 00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:47,945 and just to see that moment and think, wow, how life changes. 565 00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:03,279 My son comes home from school, 566 00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:05,131 and the first thing he wants to do is, 567 00:30:05,151 --> 00:30:06,654 "Okay, Dad, I really wanna get a snack, 568 00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,284 but let's jam that song first." 569 00:30:10,765 --> 00:30:12,985 I'll stop anything I'm doing. 570 00:30:15,509 --> 00:30:17,467 This is a shy kid. 571 00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,034 He's only 14. 572 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,690 Boy! 573 00:30:24,431 --> 00:30:26,737 You know, this metal mad man inside 574 00:30:27,477 --> 00:30:28,827 is just a beautiful thing. 575 00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:34,566 That's the neat thing about fantasy camp. 576 00:30:35,964 --> 00:30:38,575 He got so good, so fast with such little input. 577 00:30:42,057 --> 00:30:44,581 When you play with someone who's great at something, 578 00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:48,107 like, they are unconsciously excellent at it. 579 00:30:48,934 --> 00:30:51,327 It is a different experience. 580 00:30:51,501 --> 00:30:53,373 Try yourself. 581 00:30:54,765 --> 00:30:56,855 It's a very special thing. 582 00:30:58,291 --> 00:31:00,053 I know it sounds a little cheesy that 583 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:01,796 like, "Oh, it's just a rock and roll thing," 584 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:03,818 but man, for me and for him, it's real. 585 00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:13,219 - Yeah. - All right. Rock and roll. 586 00:31:13,393 --> 00:31:15,569 It took me back to our first starting... 587 00:31:15,743 --> 00:31:16,962 In the early band's... 588 00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:19,355 I'm talking way, way, way back. 589 00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:22,271 It's music in his most honest, uh, format. 590 00:31:22,445 --> 00:31:23,826 It's a... It's a weird thing. 591 00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:25,731 I'm getting chills thinking about it. 592 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,953 That feeling you get when something clicks in the room, 593 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:30,540 that sort of magic, that's why we all do it. 594 00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:32,891 This is the man! 595 00:31:33,065 --> 00:31:35,328 - Rock and Roll! - Oh, I think I did... 596 00:31:35,502 --> 00:31:37,243 Does Gene Simmons... 597 00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:39,898 Fishof is a really, uh, interesting character. 598 00:31:40,072 --> 00:31:42,117 He could be a character in a recurring role 599 00:31:42,204 --> 00:31:43,989 in The Goldbergs. 600 00:31:44,163 --> 00:31:46,306 He's... He's just crazy. He's out of his mind. 601 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:48,645 You know? And I love that about him. 602 00:31:48,819 --> 00:31:51,387 David, I thought, should be in a mental hospital 603 00:31:51,561 --> 00:31:52,954 at some point, you know? 604 00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:56,044 Or he has escaped from a mental hospital. 605 00:31:56,218 --> 00:31:57,828 But I called up Roger and I said, 606 00:31:58,003 --> 00:31:59,961 "Who would you like to jam with? 607 00:32:00,135 --> 00:32:02,746 If you had an opportunity to meet your hero? 608 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:04,661 Who would you want to jam with?" 609 00:32:04,835 --> 00:32:06,533 He says, "Levon Helm of The Band." 610 00:32:06,707 --> 00:32:08,515 He said, "I've always wanted to meet Levon Helm. 611 00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:10,604 If you introduce me Levon Helm, I'll do your camp." 612 00:32:10,624 --> 00:32:13,975 And we had formed a bond because of the Ringo tour. 613 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:15,769 So when I asked him for something, 614 00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:17,654 he said, "Of course, I'll do it." And he came. 615 00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:19,328 Wow! 616 00:32:32,211 --> 00:32:33,473 What's happening? 617 00:32:35,649 --> 00:32:38,043 After he got to meet Levon Helm the next day, 618 00:32:38,217 --> 00:32:39,676 he said, "Where are these bands playing?" 619 00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:41,220 I said, "Well, tomorrow night, 620 00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:42,679 they're playing at The Bottom Line." 621 00:32:42,699 --> 00:32:44,571 Roger Daltrey! 622 00:32:46,094 --> 00:32:48,314 Okay, let me tune to this. 623 00:32:48,488 --> 00:32:50,403 But where's your singer? 624 00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:54,146 - You're standing right there. - You're standing right there. 625 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,104 Let me tell you, these guys, uh, 626 00:32:56,278 --> 00:32:58,739 I'll be down at the rehearsal and watched all the bands, 627 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,675 and, uh, it's just great to see people 628 00:33:01,849 --> 00:33:04,678 gaining a lot of knowledge about our business 629 00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:07,594 that has been incredible to me in my life. 630 00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:09,639 And let's just hope that, uh, 631 00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:11,902 in some small way, it can be incredible 632 00:33:12,077 --> 00:33:14,557 to you for a weekend. Off you go, guys. 633 00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:16,583 Once Roger started doing it, all of a sudden 634 00:33:16,603 --> 00:33:18,387 it opened up the door 635 00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,521 and Roger said, "I can introduce you to Brian Wilson." 636 00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:26,047 Roger would always call me before every camp, 637 00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:28,290 even though he wasn't going to be at the camp. 638 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:29,834 And he was always concerned that 639 00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:31,639 the rock star was having a good time, 640 00:33:31,748 --> 00:33:33,707 will Brian Wilson like it? 641 00:33:34,229 --> 00:33:37,319 And the fact that he was showing interest meant that, 642 00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,303 you know, that there's something here. 643 00:33:39,365 --> 00:33:42,629 It's kind of like on Barnum and Bailey's side. 644 00:33:42,803 --> 00:33:44,848 Uh, and... and because it is a circus 645 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,048 which Jagger recognized all those years ago. 646 00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:51,333 In '69, rock and roll is a circus, David recognized that. 647 00:33:51,507 --> 00:33:53,272 And he started to just come up with ideas 648 00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:55,207 that keep the spirit of it alive. 649 00:33:55,381 --> 00:33:57,600 And we got to give him applause for it. 650 00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:01,300 ♪ Man, I can't explain ♪ 651 00:34:24,888 --> 00:34:27,935 - There Mr. Fishof. - Come on, bring them here. 652 00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:30,894 What do we got here? Rock stars? 653 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:32,940 You know Paul Stanley is not coming. 654 00:34:33,288 --> 00:34:35,421 Uh, goodbye. No. 655 00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:38,186 No, we got... we... we... we got... We got Gene Simmons'... 656 00:34:38,206 --> 00:34:40,165 David, I came to see you. 657 00:34:40,339 --> 00:34:42,408 - That's an honest guys. - It's the only reason I'm here. 658 00:34:42,428 --> 00:34:44,062 - You excited? - Awesome. I'm very excited. 659 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:45,628 I'm always excited. It's great to see you. 660 00:34:45,648 --> 00:34:47,215 It's gonna be great. 661 00:34:49,261 --> 00:34:50,938 - Good to see you. - Good to see you. 662 00:34:50,958 --> 00:34:52,592 It's gonna be exiting. Glad you came. 663 00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:54,918 Hello, David Fishof. 664 00:35:00,533 --> 00:35:02,100 As soon as you walk in the door, 665 00:35:02,274 --> 00:35:03,797 you get your welcome back. 666 00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:05,822 You get into a room with a group of people 667 00:35:05,842 --> 00:35:08,173 who feel exactly like you do, and you all know you do, 668 00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,088 and that just breaks the ice right away. 669 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,177 And then, you know, maybe Bruce Kulick will walk through 670 00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:14,329 the hallway or something and you'll say, 671 00:35:14,503 --> 00:35:16,026 "Hey, what's up, dude?" 672 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,139 And you all look at each other and be pinching... 673 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,967 You know, and you share that experience 674 00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,163 so quickly with the group that you're with. 675 00:35:22,337 --> 00:35:24,493 You see, everybody gets excited about coming to camp early. 676 00:35:24,513 --> 00:35:25,929 You guys say hello of Steven Adler? 677 00:35:25,949 --> 00:35:27,386 - Yeah. - Yeah. 678 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,431 So you all know Mr. David Fishof. 679 00:35:29,605 --> 00:35:32,173 This guy is the creator of Fantasy Camp, 680 00:35:32,347 --> 00:35:34,349 which is one of the coolest things. 681 00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:37,376 One guitar player was shredding like a mother and I'm thinking, 682 00:35:37,396 --> 00:35:39,441 "What are you?" He goes, "I'm a doctor." 683 00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:41,008 I'm going, Wow. 684 00:35:41,704 --> 00:35:43,817 You have, uh, some kids who come here, you know, 685 00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:45,361 their parents buy them the camp. 686 00:35:45,491 --> 00:35:46,950 They're, you know, lawyers and doctors 687 00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:48,494 and business people like myself. 688 00:35:48,668 --> 00:35:50,432 Some people, they saved up for this camp. 689 00:35:50,452 --> 00:35:52,217 This is a once in a lifetime experience. 690 00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:54,326 I am a Director of Compliance 691 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,806 for a Medicare health plan back in Portland. 692 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:58,980 I was a partner in a copy machine business, 693 00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:01,022 I'm a chiropractor now of almost 20 years. 694 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,117 Just finished my 30th year 695 00:36:03,291 --> 00:36:05,859 teaching junior high and high school choral music. 696 00:36:06,033 --> 00:36:08,494 I was an executive, pretty senior executive at Motorola. 697 00:36:08,514 --> 00:36:10,168 I've been married almost 20 years. 698 00:36:10,342 --> 00:36:11,952 We've got, uh, four kids. 699 00:36:12,126 --> 00:36:13,780 I work for the railroad. 700 00:36:13,954 --> 00:36:15,608 I'm a conductor. 701 00:36:15,782 --> 00:36:18,785 So I haven't been on a regular vacation 702 00:36:18,959 --> 00:36:21,657 since we always come here. 703 00:36:21,831 --> 00:36:23,746 Yeah. 704 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,401 People often would say, "Tell me about yourself." 705 00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:30,884 I tell them, "What I do is I'm an executive at Motorola. 706 00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:33,887 I am a rock guitarist." 707 00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:40,720 Hello, everybody. 708 00:36:40,894 --> 00:36:44,332 Welcome to Alcoholics Anonymous. 709 00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:46,314 I mean, oh, I'm sorry, this Rock Fantasy Camp. 710 00:36:46,334 --> 00:36:48,380 - You guys having fun so far? - Yeah! 711 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,469 Please welcome... 712 00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:53,497 Gene Simmons. 713 00:36:59,826 --> 00:37:02,588 Hey. Wow, everybody, welcome to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 714 00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:04,874 This is our 23rd year. 715 00:37:05,048 --> 00:37:06,615 23 years. 716 00:37:08,791 --> 00:37:11,458 And if you see a group of stars over in... Walking around 717 00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:13,123 and you have a question about bass, 718 00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:14,841 ask Rudy, ask... If you... 719 00:37:15,015 --> 00:37:17,432 If... if you want to ask a question about sex, ask Vinny. 720 00:37:17,452 --> 00:37:20,020 Okay? 721 00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:22,065 Okay. 722 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,155 Go to your rooms. We're gonna start jamming right away. 723 00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:27,680 Good luck, everybody. God bless you. 724 00:37:27,854 --> 00:37:31,205 Here's opening day at Rock Camp. Are you ready to rock? 725 00:37:31,858 --> 00:37:33,338 Your mission at camp. 726 00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:35,644 Number one, you got to prepare two sets. 727 00:37:35,818 --> 00:37:37,626 I don't care if you do identical sets. 728 00:37:37,646 --> 00:37:39,387 It's about helping each other, 729 00:37:39,561 --> 00:37:42,999 coming together as a unit to be the best band possible. 730 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,698 And... And the best band here... 731 00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:48,918 The best band wins absolutely nothing. 732 00:37:49,092 --> 00:37:50,292 Nothing, nothing. 733 00:37:50,398 --> 00:37:52,182 I can do that. I can do that. 734 00:37:52,357 --> 00:37:54,663 - Yeah. - I tell you where he is. 735 00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:57,623 So it's always a distressing moment when I meet my band, 736 00:37:57,797 --> 00:38:00,278 my camp band for the first time. 737 00:38:08,111 --> 00:38:10,853 - Wow, you guys sound great. - Thanks. 738 00:38:11,027 --> 00:38:12,290 - I'm Tony. - Hi, Quinn. 739 00:38:12,464 --> 00:38:13,664 Quinn? Hey, Quinn. 740 00:38:13,813 --> 00:38:15,013 Nice to meet you. 741 00:38:15,162 --> 00:38:16,381 You must be Blake then. 742 00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:17,817 - Yes. - Okay. 743 00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:19,862 - You must be Tony. - I am Tony. 744 00:38:20,036 --> 00:38:21,322 At least the last time I checked. 745 00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,126 Uh. 746 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,111 Well, it's nice that you guys know it, 747 00:38:25,259 --> 00:38:28,088 wow, I'm quite impressed and a little intimidated actually. 748 00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,116 Oh, you know what I forgot to tell everybody? 749 00:38:33,136 --> 00:38:34,814 To come up with the name of the band. 750 00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,381 Let's see, I had the Daughters of Danger. 751 00:38:36,401 --> 00:38:38,272 Oh, big fan of the Horse Chestnuts. 752 00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:40,970 Stack of Yokels is my favourite band name. 753 00:38:41,144 --> 00:38:43,582 - On the top three. - One, two, three. 754 00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:45,453 Motley Jue. 755 00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:49,544 Oy. 756 00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,851 - Vey. - Yeah. 757 00:38:52,025 --> 00:38:57,683 Ladies and gentlemen, Jurassic Waist Band. 758 00:38:59,032 --> 00:39:00,796 - What was the name you picked? - Which one? 759 00:39:00,816 --> 00:39:02,775 - The F one. - Fustagates. 760 00:39:02,949 --> 00:39:04,559 Fustagate. 761 00:39:04,733 --> 00:39:06,822 - What? - I told you how would... 762 00:39:06,996 --> 00:39:08,804 None of us know what the hell it means. 763 00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:10,545 - Oh, the name? - You hear Fustagate, you go... 764 00:39:10,565 --> 00:39:12,393 - What's that word? - Fustagate. 765 00:39:12,567 --> 00:39:14,897 - Yeah, I've never heard. - It means to beat with a club. 766 00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:16,876 - Oh, nice. - How about Menopause? 767 00:39:17,050 --> 00:39:18,771 Can we just throw that out there? Menopause? 768 00:39:18,791 --> 00:39:21,489 Men 'O' Pause. 769 00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:23,330 See? That was my name. There you go. 770 00:39:23,491 --> 00:39:25,255 - And you're for it? - I think it's funny. 771 00:39:25,275 --> 00:39:26,996 - I think it's great. - You're all right with that? 772 00:39:27,016 --> 00:39:28,650 I'm okay with that. I think it's funny. 773 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,977 Okay, the name of the band is... 774 00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:34,268 We gotta come up with a new band name that's like, 775 00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:38,114 you know, naming your son again. You know what I mean? It's... 776 00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:41,422 But that... that STP sticker was a really cool 777 00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:44,294 logo that we had on a bicycle seats or on a skateboard, 778 00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:48,386 so we're thinking like, Stinky Toilet Paper. 779 00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:50,823 Sherley Towels. 780 00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:54,619 What are we going to come up with? 781 00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,550 And, you know, the Stone Temple Pilots 782 00:39:56,611 --> 00:39:58,278 seemed to be the most accurate one. 783 00:40:04,706 --> 00:40:06,471 Yeah, no one told me metal guys was silly. 784 00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:08,231 I love it, though, may I say? 785 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,645 I'm glad you're taking the positive out of that. 786 00:40:13,149 --> 00:40:15,021 All right. "Mississippi Queen." 787 00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:37,634 Hey, Pistol. 788 00:40:37,739 --> 00:40:39,132 What's going on? 789 00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:40,896 - Good to see you. - Good to see you, man. 790 00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:42,536 - Thanks for coming. - My pleasure. 791 00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:45,094 So Super Kick Ten, let's... 792 00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:47,357 - Uh, what sizes? - 14. 793 00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:50,752 Lenny Kravitz and I, we... we hooked up by accident 794 00:40:50,926 --> 00:40:53,039 when we were in high school, we played together 795 00:40:53,059 --> 00:40:55,453 for about three or four years. 796 00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:59,631 Actually, I was supposed to be on the Let Love Rule album, 797 00:40:59,805 --> 00:41:02,938 but I decided to take a gig in Edinburgh, Scotland. 798 00:41:05,811 --> 00:41:09,292 And by the time I came back, the album was all done by Lenny. 799 00:41:11,294 --> 00:41:13,209 You know? So I missed that boat. 800 00:41:18,606 --> 00:41:21,000 -I like it -Well, awesome. 801 00:41:21,174 --> 00:41:22,698 I'll take everything. Wrap it up. 802 00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:25,091 Thanks buddy. Always good seeing you. 803 00:41:25,395 --> 00:41:26,681 All right, ladies, let's go. 804 00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:28,616 I wanna show you something. 805 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:31,410 Alright. Fall in... Fall in line. Come on, fall in line. 806 00:41:32,794 --> 00:41:35,754 I want to show you guys how it all begin with me 807 00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:37,712 in terms of learning to play drums. 808 00:41:37,886 --> 00:41:40,715 My very first, uh, teacher was Willie T. Brooks. 809 00:41:40,889 --> 00:41:44,066 I owe everything to him. He was the beginning of it all. 810 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,896 Then I met Albert "Tootie" Heath of the Heath Brothers. 811 00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:50,159 I walk up to this fence and I look over 812 00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:52,381 and I see this drummer playing, and he says, 813 00:41:52,553 --> 00:41:55,101 "Who the hell is that on my fence? Get your ass off of it." 814 00:41:55,121 --> 00:41:56,788 I'm like, "Oh!" He scared me, right? 815 00:41:56,949 --> 00:41:58,496 And he says, "Just kidding." Said, "Come on in." 816 00:41:58,516 --> 00:41:59,995 And it was Tootie. 817 00:42:00,169 --> 00:42:01,934 And he was actually rehearsing with a singer 818 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:04,097 named Nancy Wilson, who's a great jazz singer. 819 00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:07,035 So from that point forward, he became instrumental in my life. 820 00:42:07,873 --> 00:42:10,789 And he doesn't call me anything but Pistol, Pistol, Pistol. 821 00:42:10,963 --> 00:42:12,399 That's it. Pistol's the name. 822 00:42:12,573 --> 00:42:14,270 And this is, uh, Teena Marie. 823 00:42:14,444 --> 00:42:16,426 And these are some guys that I played with. 824 00:42:16,446 --> 00:42:18,710 And oddly enough, in this picture 825 00:42:18,884 --> 00:42:21,147 should have been Lenny Kravitz. 826 00:42:21,321 --> 00:42:22,911 And I think Lenny was standing to the side. 827 00:42:22,931 --> 00:42:24,629 As a matter of fact, he called me. 828 00:42:24,803 --> 00:42:26,872 I went down to Santa Monica, listened to the tracks, 829 00:42:26,892 --> 00:42:28,874 and I'm like, "Yeah, sounds alright. Yeah, whatever, Lenny." 830 00:42:28,894 --> 00:42:30,460 He invited me to the concert. 831 00:42:30,635 --> 00:42:32,854 We went and I just watched my career disappear. 832 00:42:33,028 --> 00:42:34,228 No, I'm kidding. 833 00:42:36,728 --> 00:42:38,381 No, I'm kidding. 834 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:41,428 I mean, it's... It is what it is, you know? 835 00:42:46,607 --> 00:42:47,913 All right. I got an idea. 836 00:42:49,784 --> 00:42:52,023 I'm going to do this. I'm going this and then... 837 00:42:52,091 --> 00:42:53,949 - Just give me a bonk, you know? - Okay. 838 00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:55,857 Okay, now here's what we do at the bonk. 839 00:42:55,877 --> 00:42:57,729 - All right. - We're going to had conversation 840 00:42:57,749 --> 00:42:59,511 where I'm gonna say something, I'm... 841 00:43:02,057 --> 00:43:03,450 And then... 842 00:43:03,624 --> 00:43:05,482 And then you're going to say something. 843 00:43:09,325 --> 00:43:11,421 Then you're going to say a little word there. 844 00:43:11,458 --> 00:43:13,678 When these guys get together 845 00:43:13,852 --> 00:43:15,854 in the room on the very first day, 846 00:43:17,899 --> 00:43:20,075 it starts off under this false premise that 847 00:43:20,249 --> 00:43:21,579 five people who don't know each other 848 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,078 come together to make a band. 849 00:43:23,252 --> 00:43:24,886 And you think, "How can that possibly work?" 850 00:43:24,906 --> 00:43:26,429 But it does work very quickly 851 00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:28,411 because they're all there for that purpose 852 00:43:28,431 --> 00:43:31,130 and they're all focused on creating something. 853 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,001 I don't tell these rockers what to do, 854 00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:54,893 I... I've learned my lesson, 855 00:43:55,067 --> 00:43:58,113 you know, they are smarter than I am when it comes to music. 856 00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:00,246 And I might be able to make deals 857 00:44:00,420 --> 00:44:02,054 and put them in a room together with people, 858 00:44:02,074 --> 00:44:04,170 but when it comes to telling them what to do, 859 00:44:04,337 --> 00:44:06,861 I let every rock star do what they want to do 860 00:44:07,035 --> 00:44:08,950 best that Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 861 00:44:09,124 --> 00:44:11,779 So if they feel that they want to do a masterclass 862 00:44:11,953 --> 00:44:15,087 or if they feel they want to teach them to write a song, 863 00:44:15,261 --> 00:44:18,090 they get very involved in these people and they respect them 864 00:44:18,264 --> 00:44:19,836 because they're fellow musicians. 865 00:44:20,005 --> 00:44:23,486 So yes, the work is hard, but it's good-hard. 866 00:44:29,057 --> 00:44:31,016 - Yeah. - These campers come in next. 867 00:44:33,148 --> 00:44:35,063 Oh, wow, organic popcorn. 868 00:44:38,197 --> 00:44:40,005 - I'm gonna lose my voice. - We're doing 869 00:44:40,025 --> 00:44:42,050 And do you know what we spent all morning doing? 870 00:44:42,070 --> 00:44:43,463 Oh. 871 00:44:43,637 --> 00:44:45,508 What's your band? 872 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,206 Men 'O' Pause. 873 00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:50,339 Men 'O' Pause. Amazing. 874 00:44:50,513 --> 00:44:52,733 I like that. I love hosting events. 875 00:44:52,907 --> 00:44:55,605 You should have done Men'O'Pause and the Hot Flashes. 876 00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:57,370 I... I tried to throw Hot Flash in there 877 00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:58,980 but they said, "No, it's too much." 878 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,460 - That was too much? - Too much. 879 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,786 They said it's too much. 880 00:45:04,353 --> 00:45:05,703 I need to go from? 881 00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:07,510 - I missed the whole line. Sorry. - Yeah. 882 00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:09,271 I think the singing part is harder. 883 00:45:09,445 --> 00:45:11,079 That's about when you're down to singing... 884 00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:12,710 Drumming, oh my God, 885 00:45:12,884 --> 00:45:15,040 if you missed a beat or if you didn't hit the cymbal, 886 00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:16,918 you could do that and get away with it. 887 00:45:18,019 --> 00:45:19,972 Now, singing, you got to know those words. 888 00:45:20,021 --> 00:45:21,631 People know these songs. 889 00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:24,069 They expect the lyrics to be right. 890 00:45:24,243 --> 00:45:26,811 You know, it's hard to kind of fake that part. 891 00:45:30,249 --> 00:45:31,946 Oh, yeah. 892 00:45:36,255 --> 00:45:37,976 I mean, it's not easy doing these camps. 893 00:45:37,996 --> 00:45:40,346 I got to figure out, um, we need one more amp. 894 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,479 It can be extremely frustrating, and extremely hard work. 895 00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:46,134 With these, uh, musicians, they vary in qualities. 896 00:45:46,308 --> 00:45:48,136 Some are very good 897 00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:50,597 but equally they might apply with something not that good. 898 00:45:50,617 --> 00:45:53,925 There were some train wrecks. 899 00:45:54,099 --> 00:45:56,928 Some of them were caused by me. 900 00:45:57,102 --> 00:46:00,888 We were about to play "Sweet Child of Mine." 901 00:46:03,064 --> 00:46:05,458 And Slash made a mistake. 902 00:46:07,503 --> 00:46:08,853 We still make mistakes. 903 00:46:09,027 --> 00:46:10,376 Yeah, it's like, you know? 904 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:12,053 - In front of 80,000 people. - Yeah. 905 00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:13,707 You know, but that's Rock and Roll. 906 00:46:13,727 --> 00:46:15,394 You know, Robert Plant and the Who, 907 00:46:15,424 --> 00:46:17,426 you know, Peter Townshend, 908 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,757 when I was growing up, I looked at those guys thinking, man, 909 00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:21,236 they got it together, you know, boy, 910 00:46:21,256 --> 00:46:23,018 I wish I had that kind of confidence. 911 00:46:24,825 --> 00:46:26,914 They... They weren't confident. 912 00:46:27,088 --> 00:46:28,829 Plant'd stand around, you know, 913 00:46:29,003 --> 00:46:31,507 doing things, he didn't know what to do with his hands. 914 00:46:31,527 --> 00:46:34,008 Daltrey swinging the mic stand and waiting for Pete 915 00:46:34,182 --> 00:46:35,947 to make the next move because their jamming, 916 00:46:35,967 --> 00:46:37,577 he don't know what to do. 917 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,102 Folks, we don't have it together any better than you. 918 00:46:41,276 --> 00:46:43,452 We just learnt how to get out and do it. 919 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:48,481 You're bringing that audience home with you. 920 00:46:48,501 --> 00:46:49,882 You're taking them on a ride. 921 00:46:50,024 --> 00:46:51,504 That's a lot of responsibility 922 00:46:51,678 --> 00:46:53,245 One, two, three, four. 923 00:46:54,376 --> 00:46:55,943 Right? 924 00:46:58,424 --> 00:47:00,449 I mean, you can't explain it unless you do it 925 00:47:00,469 --> 00:47:02,147 because it's just one of those things, 926 00:47:02,167 --> 00:47:04,647 it's like being a mom. 927 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,013 I mean, it's kind of the same thing at... in... 928 00:47:07,172 --> 00:47:08,601 In Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 929 00:47:08,738 --> 00:47:10,653 It's... It's really difficult to explain 930 00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:13,114 unless you've actually done it and gone through it 931 00:47:13,134 --> 00:47:15,441 and see how life changing it is. 932 00:47:20,446 --> 00:47:21,926 - It's okay. - Oh, my God. 933 00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,300 It's a lot of salad. 934 00:47:23,449 --> 00:47:25,233 You making that much salad? 935 00:47:27,192 --> 00:47:30,717 Wife, mom, boss. That's sort of my mantra. 936 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,807 As much as I love my job, I don't think it defines me. 937 00:47:33,981 --> 00:47:36,375 I love playing jobs. It doesn't define me. 938 00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:37,965 It's just another facet of me. 939 00:47:37,985 --> 00:47:39,726 I love my family, doesn't define me. 940 00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:41,969 Anyway, you don't want... Do you want wine, baby? 941 00:47:41,989 --> 00:47:43,208 No, right? All right. 942 00:47:43,382 --> 00:47:44,859 You're not giving her any wine. 943 00:47:44,992 --> 00:47:46,539 No, she gets the... There water for her. 944 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:47,995 Give her some water. 945 00:47:53,392 --> 00:47:54,654 Everybody! 946 00:47:54,741 --> 00:47:58,614 Please welcome Kiss! 947 00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:05,273 We have the Kiss, you know, the Kiss Condoms. 948 00:48:07,972 --> 00:48:10,322 When you're cold, you got to have the Kiss Cozy. 949 00:48:14,065 --> 00:48:16,981 This piece is a paper mache Gene Simmons 950 00:48:17,155 --> 00:48:19,592 that my daughter made when she was really little. 951 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,838 It wouldn't be Kiss without the Kiss Gene Simmons, 952 00:48:24,858 --> 00:48:26,251 hooking up panties. 953 00:48:31,517 --> 00:48:33,368 Kiss was great about making media events, 954 00:48:33,388 --> 00:48:35,173 about everything we did. 955 00:48:35,347 --> 00:48:38,306 Did you know that some of our stores are actually open 956 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,873 all night? 957 00:48:40,047 --> 00:48:41,571 I mean, I've been following them 958 00:48:41,657 --> 00:48:43,181 since I was a kid. 959 00:48:43,355 --> 00:48:44,791 Yeah! 960 00:48:46,314 --> 00:48:49,100 If anybody told me I could totally live the rock star life, 961 00:48:49,274 --> 00:48:52,886 uh, I would have to really, really carefully consider that. 962 00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:55,149 There is a price to pay. 963 00:48:57,238 --> 00:48:59,191 If that meant, no, I didn't spend any time 964 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,330 with my family and my husband was miserable at home alone, 965 00:49:02,504 --> 00:49:05,725 and my doggie missed me, yeah, nuh-uh. 966 00:49:05,899 --> 00:49:08,336 - Hey, buddy, there you go. - Really get the bottom. 967 00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:10,904 - Nice. - Oh, my God. It's so bad. 968 00:49:11,078 --> 00:49:12,581 I can't eat that. It's not even edible. 969 00:49:12,601 --> 00:49:14,647 You believe that crap? 970 00:49:15,343 --> 00:49:16,692 Don't do drugs. 971 00:49:20,435 --> 00:49:23,003 So I'm being selfish, this camp. 972 00:49:24,222 --> 00:49:26,093 As much as I love drumming, 973 00:49:26,267 --> 00:49:28,661 I wanted to be on stage with Paul Stanley dancing. 974 00:49:28,835 --> 00:49:30,489 - Welcome back. - Hey. How are you? 975 00:49:30,663 --> 00:49:32,283 Good. How are you? Nice to see you. 976 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,837 The drummer gets the, you know, 977 00:49:33,883 --> 00:49:35,503 the little punch of the high five. 978 00:49:35,668 --> 00:49:37,476 They come over, they do the little shake 979 00:49:37,496 --> 00:49:39,020 and then they walk off the side, 980 00:49:39,150 --> 00:49:40,827 and then that's it, that's the love you get. 981 00:49:40,847 --> 00:49:43,110 So could we sign on memorabilia first? 982 00:49:43,284 --> 00:49:45,678 So I'm gonna suck it up, I'm gonna attack the fear, 983 00:49:45,852 --> 00:49:47,486 and I'm going to do this with Paul Stanley, 984 00:49:47,506 --> 00:49:49,247 and I'm going to sing. 985 00:49:49,421 --> 00:49:51,249 That's what I want. 986 00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:54,058 This is like a once in a lifetime opportunity 987 00:49:54,078 --> 00:49:55,383 for me to do this. 988 00:49:55,557 --> 00:49:57,104 And I'm hoping I can pull it off. 989 00:49:57,124 --> 00:49:59,257 So this is really scary. 990 00:49:59,431 --> 00:50:00,823 Yeah. 991 00:50:00,998 --> 00:50:03,000 Right now, you can go, you're ready. 992 00:50:03,174 --> 00:50:04,651 Have a little surprise for you. 993 00:50:04,697 --> 00:50:06,481 What are you doing here? 994 00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:08,527 Did you pay to come to camp this week? 995 00:50:08,701 --> 00:50:11,205 I was going to say to you how do you get in the business. 996 00:50:11,225 --> 00:50:13,140 You open the door. 997 00:50:13,314 --> 00:50:15,577 If we were just wearing jeans and... and Pumas, 998 00:50:15,751 --> 00:50:17,927 we could play into our eighties. 999 00:50:18,102 --> 00:50:20,722 But when you're carrying around 30 or 40 pounds of gear, 1000 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,323 and you're running around 1001 00:50:22,497 --> 00:50:24,262 and you want to make sure that your stomach is 1002 00:50:24,282 --> 00:50:25,663 not hanging over your tights. 1003 00:50:27,937 --> 00:50:30,311 You think we could possibly see any of your past members get up 1004 00:50:30,331 --> 00:50:32,284 to jam with you guys for a song on stage? 1005 00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,054 - Anything's possible. - Yeah. I love to see, like, 1006 00:50:34,074 --> 00:50:36,217 Bruce Kulick get up and do something with you. 1007 00:50:36,337 --> 00:50:37,556 - So would he. - Yeah? 1008 00:50:42,604 --> 00:50:43,910 Music is magical. 1009 00:50:44,084 --> 00:50:46,608 I think all the arts are magical. 1010 00:50:46,782 --> 00:50:50,569 Just got to chill because music is indelibly 1011 00:50:50,743 --> 00:50:52,484 a part of who I am. 1012 00:50:52,658 --> 00:50:55,008 But when you're younger and you don't have kids 1013 00:50:55,182 --> 00:50:57,706 and you don't have family, your band or your music, 1014 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,318 or whatever you pursue is your life. 1015 00:51:00,492 --> 00:51:03,843 The beauty about having children hopefully 1016 00:51:04,017 --> 00:51:07,194 with the... the right spirit, quite honestly, it's... 1017 00:51:07,368 --> 00:51:12,025 It's part of why we're here on... on Earth, I think, 1018 00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,550 is to produce children who are better than us, 1019 00:51:15,724 --> 00:51:18,945 go further than us, and make the world better than we do. 1020 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:20,555 Thank you. 1021 00:51:30,522 --> 00:51:32,567 - 250. - 250 or 200? 1022 00:51:32,741 --> 00:51:35,222 - 200, 250. - Oh, yeah. 1023 00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:39,052 Blake, he's a pretty important part of my life. 1024 00:51:39,226 --> 00:51:41,359 I connected with him pretty early on. 1025 00:51:41,533 --> 00:51:44,013 I've been teaching him for about four years. 1026 00:51:48,148 --> 00:51:49,999 Like they say, like, a kid in a candy store. 1027 00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:52,162 - But there are kids, I guess. - Yeah, well... 1028 00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:57,831 The question isn't what Blake can do. 1029 00:51:57,984 --> 00:52:00,813 The question is what Blake can't do and there's not much. 1030 00:52:01,335 --> 00:52:04,251 He can play anything I throw at him. 1031 00:52:04,425 --> 00:52:06,187 And if his technique isn't up to par, 1032 00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:08,531 he will work on it 'til he absolutely nails it. 1033 00:52:08,647 --> 00:52:10,257 One, two, ready, go. 1034 00:52:14,566 --> 00:52:17,003 Blake struggles with saying what's on his mind. 1035 00:52:18,613 --> 00:52:21,312 But he'll play and he'll play. 1036 00:52:21,486 --> 00:52:24,010 And play and play. And you can kind of tell 1037 00:52:24,184 --> 00:52:26,317 what mood he's in by how he plays. 1038 00:52:26,491 --> 00:52:28,362 - Good job, buddy. - Thank you. 1039 00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:33,367 It's about catching that spark. 1040 00:52:33,541 --> 00:52:36,631 Ideas come usually at the most inconvenient times. 1041 00:52:36,805 --> 00:52:39,591 Driving along in the car, I had to pull over 1042 00:52:39,765 --> 00:52:42,071 and get my book out and write something down, 1043 00:52:42,246 --> 00:52:44,291 or I have to cut the shower short, 1044 00:52:44,465 --> 00:52:46,608 or I'm in the middle of going to the bathroom, 1045 00:52:46,685 --> 00:52:48,077 it's like, "No, no." 1046 00:52:48,252 --> 00:52:49,905 Here it is, right here. 1047 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,951 My notes. 1048 00:52:52,995 --> 00:52:56,434 There might be the next "Ain't Got No Satisfaction" in there. 1049 00:52:56,608 --> 00:52:58,132 Probably not but you never know. 1050 00:53:04,529 --> 00:53:06,444 It's more like a cow, though. 1051 00:53:06,618 --> 00:53:09,142 There's a song by The Temptations 1052 00:53:09,838 --> 00:53:11,410 called "Papa Was A Rolling Stone." 1053 00:53:11,492 --> 00:53:13,581 It's a six and a half minute song. 1054 00:53:18,543 --> 00:53:20,414 - Whoa. - Yeah. 1055 00:53:20,588 --> 00:53:22,024 To be a bass player, 1056 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,006 you have to get your ego out of the way. 1057 00:53:24,026 --> 00:53:25,767 That's it. 1058 00:53:26,986 --> 00:53:28,901 I almost lost my first professional gig 1059 00:53:29,075 --> 00:53:31,556 because of overplaying. 1060 00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:33,581 The band-leader said if you don't pull it back 1061 00:53:33,601 --> 00:53:35,995 and simplify, I may have to let you go. 1062 00:53:36,169 --> 00:53:38,389 You know, imagine if Gollum played the bass. 1063 00:53:38,867 --> 00:53:41,653 Play more notes, it's boring. 1064 00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:46,005 Now, now, the master's the song. 1065 00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:52,054 It's boring. 1066 00:53:55,667 --> 00:53:59,584 That first gig that I almost lost 1067 00:53:59,758 --> 00:54:02,108 led on to the next gig, which led 1068 00:54:02,282 --> 00:54:04,330 to me playing with Jimmy Page with The Firm. 1069 00:54:22,084 --> 00:54:24,652 Rock broccoli. 1070 00:54:25,174 --> 00:54:27,873 Yeah. Got some peas. 1071 00:54:29,396 --> 00:54:32,181 You know, there's no place like gnome. 1072 00:54:35,663 --> 00:54:38,927 I really was living the rock and roll fantasy, 1073 00:54:39,972 --> 00:54:44,672 and I was living the reckless rock and roll lifestyle 1074 00:54:44,846 --> 00:54:46,413 that goes with that. 1075 00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:49,024 This is nice. This is gonna be good in juice. 1076 00:54:49,198 --> 00:54:50,591 Oh, yeah. 1077 00:54:50,765 --> 00:54:53,246 - This one is lemony isn't it? - Ooh! 1078 00:54:53,942 --> 00:54:55,727 You feel kind of invincible, 1079 00:54:55,901 --> 00:54:58,643 like you're on top of the world. 1080 00:55:03,648 --> 00:55:06,346 That's when things started to change. 1081 00:55:07,956 --> 00:55:09,671 It's so nice, it made my eyes water. 1082 00:55:09,828 --> 00:55:11,743 Oh, yes, it made my throat burn. 1083 00:55:11,917 --> 00:55:13,658 In a good way, of course. 1084 00:55:13,832 --> 00:55:16,095 - It's quiet now. - It's quiet now, yeah. 1085 00:55:16,704 --> 00:55:18,010 Ooh! 1086 00:55:19,141 --> 00:55:20,708 Now? 1087 00:55:23,145 --> 00:55:27,193 George and I... Wow, well, it goes back a long way. 1088 00:55:27,367 --> 00:55:28,914 That's a whole story unto itself. 1089 00:55:28,934 --> 00:55:32,764 I, uh, in my crazy days in the eighties. 1090 00:55:34,374 --> 00:55:37,072 With The Firm, we had our own plane 1091 00:55:37,246 --> 00:55:39,205 with, uh, Jimmy Page in there. 1092 00:55:40,075 --> 00:55:43,557 Plenty of sold out shows and travelling the world 1093 00:55:43,731 --> 00:55:45,603 and endless parties and all that. 1094 00:55:45,777 --> 00:55:47,735 The stuff that you dream of 1095 00:55:47,909 --> 00:55:50,825 you think is going to fulfill you and make you happy. 1096 00:55:50,999 --> 00:55:52,566 It just doesn't. 1097 00:55:53,741 --> 00:55:59,486 I was drinking like, almost a bottle of whisky a day. 1098 00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:02,097 This... There were people 1099 00:56:02,271 --> 00:56:04,404 that had known me during that time, 1100 00:56:04,578 --> 00:56:07,581 and they saw a friend of mine like a year or so later 1101 00:56:07,755 --> 00:56:10,347 and they go, "Oh, yeah. I was hanging with Tony Franklin. 1102 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:13,282 He said, "Oh, that guy. Is he still alive?" 1103 00:56:13,457 --> 00:56:14,873 - Oh, wow. - He seriously thought that 1104 00:56:14,893 --> 00:56:16,547 I would not make it. 1105 00:56:16,721 --> 00:56:19,376 - Well, I'm really glad you did. - Me too, love. 1106 00:56:24,555 --> 00:56:27,035 Rock camp is a little bit like self-realization 1107 00:56:27,209 --> 00:56:31,083 because you are finding yourself. 1108 00:56:36,567 --> 00:56:38,395 To be able to give the campers 1109 00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:41,267 a magical experience that they'll never forget 1110 00:56:41,441 --> 00:56:45,227 and draw my experience, just to be able to do that is... 1111 00:56:45,706 --> 00:56:48,666 It's a pretty deep thing, it really is, it's beautiful. 1112 00:56:57,370 --> 00:56:58,937 - It's magical. - Hey! 1113 00:56:59,111 --> 00:57:01,809 How I reconnected with my joy of playing... 1114 00:57:01,983 --> 00:57:03,637 - How are you doing? - All right. 1115 00:57:03,811 --> 00:57:05,378 ...was here 1116 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:08,729 at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 1117 00:57:08,903 --> 00:57:10,339 Oh! 1118 00:57:11,689 --> 00:57:13,212 This isn't a chore. 1119 00:57:13,386 --> 00:57:15,339 You know, I'm at a point in my life where 1120 00:57:15,475 --> 00:57:17,666 I don't have to do anything I don't want to do. 1121 00:57:19,261 --> 00:57:23,048 It's not about money, it's not about, um, perks. 1122 00:57:23,222 --> 00:57:25,877 It's about, I enjoy it. 1123 00:57:30,229 --> 00:57:34,320 What struck me the most in a way was how appreciative 1124 00:57:34,494 --> 00:57:36,278 and excited 1125 00:57:36,453 --> 00:57:38,455 and inspired these people are. 1126 00:57:40,718 --> 00:57:43,764 It's just a really cool experience to touch 1127 00:57:43,938 --> 00:57:46,114 someone's life, inspire them with music that 1128 00:57:46,288 --> 00:57:48,290 they grew up with. 1129 00:57:49,291 --> 00:57:51,598 That's what it's about, I realize now. 1130 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,471 These people don't have to do 1131 00:57:54,645 --> 00:57:56,298 Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 1132 00:57:56,473 --> 00:57:58,431 Uh, it's been really great to see 1133 00:57:58,605 --> 00:58:02,043 the way... the way Alice Cooper and the way Roger Daltrey 1134 00:58:02,217 --> 00:58:04,219 and Gene Simmons see 1135 00:58:04,393 --> 00:58:06,288 how these rock stars have been touched by it 1136 00:58:06,308 --> 00:58:09,311 and wanted to be part, um, 1137 00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:12,576 is really... is really been a beautiful thing. 1138 00:58:12,663 --> 00:58:16,057 ♪ I can see right through Your plastic, man ♪ 1139 00:58:16,144 --> 00:58:19,191 ♪ I look all white, But my dad was black ♪ 1140 00:58:19,278 --> 00:58:24,762 ♪ My fine looking suit Is really made out of sack ♪ 1141 00:58:25,676 --> 00:58:27,266 Now you guys should go to these masterclasses. 1142 00:58:27,286 --> 00:58:28,789 Oh, yeah. I'm going to the vocals one. 1143 00:58:28,809 --> 00:58:30,158 - Okay. - With Jason. 1144 00:58:30,332 --> 00:58:32,073 And you should go to a guitar one. 1145 00:58:32,247 --> 00:58:35,076 Or... Or... Or you can go and drink, whatever you choose. 1146 00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:37,209 Well, the two are not mutually exclusive. 1147 00:58:37,383 --> 00:58:38,645 - Right? - Yes, right. 1148 00:58:41,256 --> 00:58:42,693 Just right right now. 1149 00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:46,218 ♪ Oh ♪ 1150 00:58:46,305 --> 00:58:49,961 ♪ Ah ♪ 1151 00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,971 Did it feel smooth? Do you push from your diaphragm? 1152 00:59:05,585 --> 00:59:06,934 Did you feel the difference? 1153 00:59:07,108 --> 00:59:08,545 - Yes. - Yeah. 1154 00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:10,372 Just hold on. 1155 00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:13,024 Hey, babe. I'm in the middle of a vocal thing. Ready? 1156 00:59:18,163 --> 00:59:19,363 I'll call you back, okay? 1157 00:59:19,468 --> 00:59:21,558 Thanks. 1158 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,718 I've really suffered a lot with anxiety 1159 00:59:27,738 --> 00:59:30,349 and panic attacks over the years. 1160 00:59:30,523 --> 00:59:35,267 I really had to find my own way to fix it myself. 1161 00:59:35,441 --> 00:59:37,225 And for me, it was music. 1162 00:59:37,399 --> 00:59:39,837 These people that do come to the camp, 1163 00:59:40,011 --> 00:59:43,101 a lot of them have problems they want to overcome. 1164 00:59:43,275 --> 00:59:46,191 And within those five days, eventually, 1165 00:59:46,365 --> 00:59:49,498 they show their true colours and their true angers. 1166 00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:53,372 I came from Cuba, as a six year old kid. 1167 00:59:53,546 --> 00:59:55,809 My mother and father gave me a guitar and said, 1168 00:59:55,983 --> 00:59:57,550 "Learn how to play this, 1169 00:59:57,724 --> 00:59:59,867 it'll help you make friends wherever you are." 1170 01:00:01,032 --> 01:00:03,817 Grew up pretty strict Orthodox Jewish family. 1171 01:00:03,991 --> 01:00:06,167 Definitely the black sheep of the family. 1172 01:00:06,341 --> 01:00:08,410 If they saw me like this right now, they probably get 1173 01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:10,430 a little scared and, uh, and a bit worried. 1174 01:00:15,307 --> 01:00:17,657 All right, ladies. Here comes another one. 1175 01:00:19,137 --> 01:00:21,032 I've always just had stage fright, you know? 1176 01:00:21,052 --> 01:00:23,228 I never, ever thought I was good enough. 1177 01:00:29,495 --> 01:00:32,367 But now more than anything, I just feel 1178 01:00:32,541 --> 01:00:34,805 anxious but ready to rock. 1179 01:00:41,072 --> 01:00:44,292 I'm not a very good guitar player. 1180 01:00:44,858 --> 01:00:47,478 You know, Oh, my God, Jeff Beck, I can't possibly get up 1181 01:00:47,556 --> 01:00:49,733 on stage and play alongside him. 1182 01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:54,651 All of a sudden, the drums just kick in 1183 01:00:54,825 --> 01:00:57,784 and just take the band to a whole another level. 1184 01:00:57,958 --> 01:01:01,309 And I turn around and it's the drummer from Chicago. 1185 01:01:02,397 --> 01:01:05,749 That's the first time in my life that I had ever played with 1186 01:01:05,923 --> 01:01:08,708 a professional drummer of that caliber. 1187 01:01:09,404 --> 01:01:12,190 Playing guitar as something like as Jeff Beck. 1188 01:01:12,364 --> 01:01:15,106 Yeah, I mean, he's coming out full of enthusiasm for it. 1189 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,282 You know, this thing is offering 1190 01:01:17,456 --> 01:01:19,850 every musician that does it, something. 1191 01:01:20,024 --> 01:01:23,375 When you walk on stage, you own it. 1192 01:01:24,724 --> 01:01:28,685 And no one at that moment and in that time, 1193 01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:31,296 is better than you are. 1194 01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,865 Whatever it is, don't be afraid to like, 1195 01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:37,476 do you, you know, loosen up a little bit. 1196 01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:39,043 This is about having fun. 1197 01:01:43,308 --> 01:01:45,049 If I was in charge, 1198 01:01:45,223 --> 01:01:49,183 I would get Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp in every school, 1199 01:01:49,793 --> 01:01:51,620 sixth grade. 1200 01:01:51,795 --> 01:01:53,211 And I used to teach sixth grade. 1201 01:01:53,231 --> 01:01:54,841 Rock and Roll Fantasy! 1202 01:01:55,015 --> 01:01:56,582 Yeah! 1203 01:01:56,756 --> 01:01:58,149 That's what keeps me going. 1204 01:01:58,323 --> 01:02:00,717 Every day I open up my emails 1205 01:02:00,891 --> 01:02:03,720 and people just tell me we changed our lives at this camp. 1206 01:02:04,329 --> 01:02:06,679 It was awesome jamming with the guy that wrote 1207 01:02:06,853 --> 01:02:09,160 one of rock's biggest anthems ever. 1208 01:02:09,334 --> 01:02:11,815 Just wow. 1209 01:02:14,121 --> 01:02:17,124 It's a great feeling when people think you're important 1210 01:02:17,298 --> 01:02:21,302 and you make them feel like they're the stars and they are. 1211 01:02:21,476 --> 01:02:24,131 I see you playing, you like your part, 1212 01:02:24,697 --> 01:02:26,264 but get with him. 1213 01:02:26,438 --> 01:02:28,266 As long as you got him back there. 1214 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,137 - We can't lose. - We can't lose. 1215 01:02:30,311 --> 01:02:31,878 Yeah, it's great. 1216 01:02:32,052 --> 01:02:33,532 - Paul's right. - A pocket. 1217 01:02:33,706 --> 01:02:34,968 Yeah, a pocket. 1218 01:02:36,491 --> 01:02:38,189 Good job, guys. 1219 01:02:38,363 --> 01:02:40,017 Guy's awesome, man. 1220 01:02:40,669 --> 01:02:43,542 For him to point to me to say, 1221 01:02:43,716 --> 01:02:46,336 "With that guy back there on drums, you can't go wrong." 1222 01:02:46,371 --> 01:02:48,329 And he said he reminds me of Buddy Miles. 1223 01:02:48,503 --> 01:02:50,897 I grew up listening to Buddy Miles. 1224 01:02:52,551 --> 01:02:54,771 To be acknowledged by someone of the caliber 1225 01:02:54,945 --> 01:02:56,598 of Paul Stanley of Kiss, 1226 01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,601 what he has achieved is what my ultimate goal is, 1227 01:02:59,776 --> 01:03:02,586 and that's something I will cherish for the rest of my life. 1228 01:03:02,909 --> 01:03:04,345 I really will. 1229 01:03:04,519 --> 01:03:07,696 To be recognized by my peers, if you will, 1230 01:03:07,871 --> 01:03:11,875 in a genre that I'm not used to, was uplifting was encouraging. 1231 01:03:12,049 --> 01:03:15,487 Um, so I will now be a metal head. 1232 01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:18,098 All right? Okay? 1233 01:03:40,468 --> 01:03:42,897 Depending on your age group and your taste in music, 1234 01:03:42,949 --> 01:03:46,083 there are certain musical movements 1235 01:03:46,257 --> 01:03:48,520 and personalities who are very defining. 1236 01:03:48,694 --> 01:03:52,219 And Dave Mustaine is a musician who many would say 1237 01:03:52,393 --> 01:03:54,060 is the guy who created thrash metal 1238 01:03:54,134 --> 01:03:56,789 through the way he played guitar. 1239 01:03:56,876 --> 01:03:58,617 ♪ Then do it! ♪ 1240 01:03:58,791 --> 01:04:01,968 When I was in my bedroom, jamming these songs 1241 01:04:02,142 --> 01:04:03,714 when I was in a high school band, 1242 01:04:03,752 --> 01:04:05,667 if you would have told that Scott 1243 01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,652 that someday Dave Mustaine is gonna be 1244 01:04:07,713 --> 01:04:09,280 watching you play his song, 1245 01:04:09,454 --> 01:04:11,218 that Scott would have just never believed you 1246 01:04:11,238 --> 01:04:13,588 and said, like, whatever, you know, pipe dream. 1247 01:04:17,897 --> 01:04:19,879 We went out of town, and all those sort of things, 1248 01:04:19,899 --> 01:04:21,359 it was like the Megadeth soundtrack, 1249 01:04:21,379 --> 01:04:23,555 the Metallica soundtrack. Thank you. 1250 01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:30,170 I used to give him potato with... 1251 01:04:35,175 --> 01:04:38,178 Context for a Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp in my life 1252 01:04:38,352 --> 01:04:40,311 has been that I have a special needs son. 1253 01:04:40,485 --> 01:04:44,402 My second child, he was born with brain damage. 1254 01:04:49,015 --> 01:04:51,396 Couldn't see, couldn't hear, no voluntary movement. 1255 01:04:52,062 --> 01:04:53,628 - Yeah. - This was the end of me 1256 01:04:53,802 --> 01:04:55,239 being a musician, actually. 1257 01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:57,632 Good job. And what do you do with your feet? 1258 01:04:57,806 --> 01:04:59,765 In fact, I was recording a CD 1259 01:04:59,939 --> 01:05:01,559 and I was planning on releasing it 1260 01:05:01,636 --> 01:05:03,705 and I was planning on even touring behind it, 1261 01:05:03,725 --> 01:05:05,423 then Jackson came along. 1262 01:05:05,597 --> 01:05:08,426 Hello, little Jackson. Hello, sleepyhead. 1263 01:05:09,340 --> 01:05:11,559 And became the only thing that matters. 1264 01:05:11,733 --> 01:05:13,605 How do we help Jackson? 1265 01:05:14,127 --> 01:05:15,543 The first thing is he has profound, 1266 01:05:15,563 --> 01:05:17,870 diffuse, bi-lateral brain damage. 1267 01:05:18,044 --> 01:05:20,177 How do you help this child be 1268 01:05:20,351 --> 01:05:22,309 the fullest human being they can be? 1269 01:05:22,483 --> 01:05:24,572 And so all attention went to Jackson. 1270 01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:27,619 Boy, not happening. 1271 01:05:28,185 --> 01:05:31,188 We had a very intensive home program. 1272 01:05:32,841 --> 01:05:35,148 Helping rewire his brain. 1273 01:05:35,322 --> 01:05:37,281 It was like boot camp at our house. 1274 01:05:43,722 --> 01:05:46,986 Hey, look at you, look at you. 1275 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,207 Well done. Well done. Whoo! 1276 01:05:50,381 --> 01:05:51,581 Give it up. Give it up. 1277 01:05:51,730 --> 01:05:53,079 Good job. What's this? 1278 01:05:53,297 --> 01:05:54,907 O. 1279 01:05:55,081 --> 01:05:58,302 Good job, Jack. Go, go, go. Perfect. 1280 01:05:58,476 --> 01:06:00,478 One day, you know, 1281 01:06:00,652 --> 01:06:03,026 his hands and his ears and actually his eyes would move 1282 01:06:03,046 --> 01:06:04,743 as if it was a reaction. 1283 01:06:06,179 --> 01:06:08,747 I remember us going, "Did that really just happen?" 1284 01:06:09,922 --> 01:06:11,619 Watch this! 1285 01:06:11,793 --> 01:06:14,492 It's really just hard-gained, miracle type stuff. 1286 01:06:17,234 --> 01:06:18,931 You can beat me on this one. 1287 01:06:19,105 --> 01:06:20,541 It's a battle. 1288 01:06:21,629 --> 01:06:24,154 You're doing it. One more. You're gonna tie it up. 1289 01:06:24,328 --> 01:06:25,807 Get it. 1290 01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,746 - I beat you. - Yeah, you totally nailed it. 1291 01:06:27,766 --> 01:06:29,202 Nicely done. Give me some. 1292 01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:31,422 All right. Good job. 1293 01:06:32,423 --> 01:06:34,729 So tell me more about the day. 1294 01:06:34,903 --> 01:06:36,688 - Yeah. - What's your film about? 1295 01:06:37,645 --> 01:06:40,561 - Me being a monster. - About you being a monster? 1296 01:06:40,735 --> 01:06:42,848 No way. And what do you do when you're a monster? 1297 01:06:42,868 --> 01:06:45,871 - I take kids down. - Down where? 1298 01:06:46,045 --> 01:06:47,786 Down to Chinatown. 1299 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,223 You take kids down to Chinatown. That's awesome. 1300 01:06:50,397 --> 01:06:51,790 Yeah. 1301 01:06:51,964 --> 01:06:54,097 You drop first and then I drop after. 1302 01:06:54,271 --> 01:06:55,663 One, two, three. 1303 01:06:55,837 --> 01:06:57,535 Oh, no. 1304 01:06:57,709 --> 01:06:59,948 You got to get it right in the lines, okay? One. 1305 01:07:00,886 --> 01:07:02,540 Stay in the black lines. 1306 01:07:02,714 --> 01:07:04,629 Good one. That's a good one. Slow down. 1307 01:07:04,803 --> 01:07:07,501 Excellent. Good job. Nice work. 1308 01:07:08,589 --> 01:07:11,984 So, Jackson, what would you like to do this year? 1309 01:07:12,158 --> 01:07:13,705 What's one of your goals for this year? 1310 01:07:13,725 --> 01:07:16,467 Play bass at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 1311 01:07:16,641 --> 01:07:18,034 Yeah? 1312 01:07:19,339 --> 01:07:21,080 Yeah. 1313 01:07:21,254 --> 01:07:22,670 That's a G, so that's the... that right, 1314 01:07:22,690 --> 01:07:24,083 but we can do open first. 1315 01:07:24,605 --> 01:07:26,172 All right, third fret. 1316 01:07:27,130 --> 01:07:28,653 - Good, Jack. - It's a lot. 1317 01:07:28,827 --> 01:07:30,089 Where did you go? 1318 01:07:30,263 --> 01:07:31,960 Go on, boy, quarterback. 1319 01:07:35,399 --> 01:07:37,495 So is there any chicken in your chicken soup? 1320 01:07:37,618 --> 01:07:39,838 - No. - No? 1321 01:07:40,665 --> 01:07:42,623 Awesome. 1322 01:07:47,802 --> 01:07:49,326 I did it. 1323 01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:51,893 Yes, you did. You cooked. 1324 01:07:53,547 --> 01:07:55,680 Yeah, nicely done. All right. 1325 01:07:55,854 --> 01:07:58,552 - Rock and Roll. - Nice. 1326 01:08:01,990 --> 01:08:04,645 So, uh, you guys want... 1327 01:08:04,819 --> 01:08:06,019 Want to try something? 1328 01:08:06,169 --> 01:08:07,561 - Yeah, absolutely. - Okay. 1329 01:08:07,735 --> 01:08:10,651 Um, how about in the chorus, 1330 01:08:10,825 --> 01:08:14,220 sit out and one beat. 1331 01:08:16,918 --> 01:08:18,877 One, two, three. 1332 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,823 - Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. - Cool. 1333 01:08:28,843 --> 01:08:31,498 So whose guitar can I borrow real quick? 1334 01:08:38,897 --> 01:08:42,248 So that's the riff and then the other main riff and the cho... 1335 01:08:46,383 --> 01:08:48,776 There's a slight little bend going up. 1336 01:08:52,084 --> 01:08:54,066 - Good job, guys. That was fun. - Thank you. 1337 01:08:54,086 --> 01:08:55,435 Yeah. 1338 01:08:55,609 --> 01:08:57,350 This is yours too. 1339 01:09:04,444 --> 01:09:06,098 The siren warble. 1340 01:09:06,272 --> 01:09:07,732 What's Teddy like as a councillor? 1341 01:09:07,752 --> 01:09:09,623 - Teddy has a... - Does he stay on point 1342 01:09:09,797 --> 01:09:12,215 - or was he all over the place? - Well, sort of all over the map. 1343 01:09:12,235 --> 01:09:14,193 Sort of, but... 1344 01:09:14,367 --> 01:09:16,828 By the time you had a whole day of work and a visiting legend 1345 01:09:16,848 --> 01:09:20,156 and then a jam session at the end, 10, 12 hours 1346 01:09:20,330 --> 01:09:22,114 can actually start to unhinge you. 1347 01:09:22,288 --> 01:09:25,987 So we have to go to the Martini Bar to do some repairing. 1348 01:09:29,252 --> 01:09:30,775 As long as you guys had fun, 1349 01:09:30,949 --> 01:09:32,951 you guys sounded fricking fantastic. 1350 01:09:33,125 --> 01:09:34,953 You guys did. 1351 01:09:35,127 --> 01:09:37,956 You know the fact that David lets me do the Q&A's here, 1352 01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:39,807 - Oh, that's awesome. I know. - That's huge for me. 1353 01:09:39,827 --> 01:09:41,592 If it weren't for Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp, 1354 01:09:41,612 --> 01:09:43,135 I can't say that I would 1355 01:09:43,309 --> 01:09:45,262 even have any interest in broadcasting it. 1356 01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:52,100 - That's one cowboy ninja. - Bear Cowboy Ninja. 1357 01:09:52,275 --> 01:09:54,407 Bear Cowboy Ninja. Oh, okay. I got it. 1358 01:09:55,930 --> 01:09:57,193 She's improved a lot. 1359 01:09:57,367 --> 01:09:58,987 - Yeah, I guess. - I'm telling you. 1360 01:09:59,107 --> 01:10:01,264 You're going to have a big sadness, Monday morning. 1361 01:10:01,284 --> 01:10:03,135 Oh, yeah, you're gonna be like in depression, bro. 1362 01:10:03,155 --> 01:10:04,615 - You're like... - The low after the high. 1363 01:10:04,635 --> 01:10:06,245 Post-camp depression is a thing. 1364 01:10:06,419 --> 01:10:08,465 - It's... it's heartbreaking. - Right? 1365 01:10:12,295 --> 01:10:14,340 So tonight will be "Patience." 1366 01:10:15,123 --> 01:10:17,909 - Bad Moon. - A little "Bad Moon Rising." 1367 01:10:18,083 --> 01:10:20,477 All right? Okay, here we go. 1368 01:10:20,651 --> 01:10:23,610 So that's... that's our set right there. 1369 01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:25,786 Gentlemen, play it right. 1370 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,681 Play it with no mistakes and play it well 1371 01:10:27,701 --> 01:10:29,355 and, um, you all... 1372 01:10:29,529 --> 01:10:31,337 There'll be a drink waiting for you at the bar. 1373 01:10:31,357 --> 01:10:33,121 - How about have fun? - Oh, there you go. 1374 01:10:33,141 --> 01:10:35,100 - And have fun. There you go. - Have fun. 1375 01:10:35,274 --> 01:10:36,846 A little hard for my little band. 1376 01:10:37,537 --> 01:10:39,191 Yeah! 1377 01:10:39,887 --> 01:10:41,280 Alrighty. 1378 01:10:41,454 --> 01:10:43,195 - So. - Okay, so last day, guys. 1379 01:10:43,369 --> 01:10:44,989 - Last day. - Last day, last night. 1380 01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:47,286 How about rock and roll all night? 1381 01:10:48,069 --> 01:10:49,641 - Tammy. - Oh, yeah. We can do it. 1382 01:10:49,723 --> 01:10:51,159 Just do "Startled." 1383 01:10:52,204 --> 01:10:54,946 - Are you in a bad mood? - I am in a bad mood. 1384 01:10:56,426 --> 01:10:58,428 Just... Just do "Startled." 1385 01:10:59,167 --> 01:11:00,691 That's a good song. 1386 01:11:00,865 --> 01:11:02,388 - Ooh. - Oh, my alarm. 1387 01:11:02,562 --> 01:11:04,651 What the hell is that? 1388 01:11:04,825 --> 01:11:06,285 - Tinker Bell? - It's Christmas. 1389 01:11:06,305 --> 01:11:07,915 It's Christmas. Yes. 1390 01:11:10,744 --> 01:11:12,659 So wait. 1391 01:11:12,833 --> 01:11:15,271 Okay, let's get ready to check in, in Southwest. 1392 01:11:16,315 --> 01:11:18,274 - Hello. - A very important thing. 1393 01:11:22,669 --> 01:11:24,192 Here you are, B33. 1394 01:11:24,367 --> 01:11:26,392 Got a better one than me and that one's on time. 1395 01:11:26,412 --> 01:11:27,848 What am I? 1396 01:11:28,022 --> 01:11:29,850 - B? - B33. 1397 01:11:30,024 --> 01:11:31,330 I like to be A. 1398 01:11:31,939 --> 01:11:33,573 We got four minutes. Check this out. 1399 01:11:33,593 --> 01:11:35,641 Okay, okay. I know, I gotta put my plugs in. 1400 01:11:35,726 --> 01:11:37,031 No, no, we'll play though. 1401 01:11:45,736 --> 01:11:49,609 ♪ I know She's gonna make you cry ♪ 1402 01:11:49,783 --> 01:11:52,351 Tammy, she's an amazing singer. 1403 01:11:52,525 --> 01:11:54,919 She gave me chills a couple times. 1404 01:11:55,093 --> 01:11:58,052 Last night we played, she hits a note that was ridiculous. 1405 01:11:58,226 --> 01:12:00,054 I fell off the drums set. 1406 01:12:00,228 --> 01:12:01,601 - Are you sure? - Because I... 1407 01:12:01,621 --> 01:12:03,231 I put seat-belt on. 1408 01:12:04,972 --> 01:12:06,365 What do you like better? 1409 01:12:06,539 --> 01:12:09,281 Being behind the kit or being up front? 1410 01:12:09,455 --> 01:12:10,848 I'm going to be honest. 1411 01:12:11,022 --> 01:12:12,656 It's more nerve wracking being in front. 1412 01:12:12,676 --> 01:12:14,634 - Being up in front? - Oh, my God. 1413 01:12:14,808 --> 01:12:16,616 - More nerve-wracking. - You could hide behind drums. 1414 01:12:16,636 --> 01:12:18,875 And even if you mess up, you can cover it a bit. 1415 01:12:18,986 --> 01:12:21,578 You can go on with dirty pants. You know, this shirt's wrinkled. 1416 01:12:21,598 --> 01:12:22,970 There's spilled something down here. 1417 01:12:22,990 --> 01:12:25,210 - Sneakers. - It doesn't matter. 1418 01:12:28,866 --> 01:12:30,302 I have to thank you very much 1419 01:12:30,476 --> 01:12:32,739 for giving me confidence to do this, 1420 01:12:32,913 --> 01:12:36,439 because this was very, very hard for me. No, seriously. 1421 01:12:36,613 --> 01:12:39,471 - This was very hard for me. - It's like the love connection. 1422 01:12:50,017 --> 01:12:51,410 I know, right? 1423 01:12:52,716 --> 01:12:54,002 - Hey. - See you there, man. 1424 01:12:54,065 --> 01:12:55,458 - See you soon. - All right. 1425 01:12:55,632 --> 01:12:57,156 I'm off. You guys sounded great. 1426 01:12:57,285 --> 01:12:58,963 - You guys sounded great. - This was fantastic. 1427 01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:00,245 I mean, it really was. 1428 01:13:01,551 --> 01:13:04,162 It's very hard for people to be up on stage 1429 01:13:04,336 --> 01:13:05,990 in the first place. 1430 01:13:06,164 --> 01:13:08,732 You know, who wants to be told, "Yo, that stinks." 1431 01:13:08,906 --> 01:13:10,298 Rock and roll. 1432 01:13:10,473 --> 01:13:12,257 But once you break through it, 1433 01:13:12,431 --> 01:13:15,869 you realize the only thing you have to fear is fear itself. 1434 01:13:16,043 --> 01:13:18,872 Thank you, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. 1435 01:13:25,313 --> 01:13:27,490 Well, maybe fire... 1436 01:13:28,142 --> 01:13:30,095 Playing in your bedroom is not the same as 1437 01:13:30,231 --> 01:13:33,191 playing with a drummer and playing with a bass player and... 1438 01:13:33,844 --> 01:13:36,803 If one part is wrong, it makes the other part wrong. 1439 01:13:36,977 --> 01:13:40,198 ...Fantasy, guys, final night here in Las Vegas, Nevada. 1440 01:13:40,372 --> 01:13:42,113 Being in tune is important. 1441 01:13:42,287 --> 01:13:44,269 I was drinking so much water in my room, man. 1442 01:13:44,289 --> 01:13:45,682 I'm going to piss my pants. 1443 01:13:45,856 --> 01:13:47,272 Not playing ahead of the beat. 1444 01:13:47,292 --> 01:13:48,673 How are you feeling, brother? 1445 01:13:48,728 --> 01:13:50,991 I felt better. Not being too loud. 1446 01:13:51,165 --> 01:13:53,516 But the show must go on. 1447 01:13:53,690 --> 01:13:55,236 Hey, you know, I got that throat spray 1448 01:13:55,256 --> 01:13:56,542 if you want the last of it. 1449 01:13:56,606 --> 01:13:57,940 I'll try anything right now. 1450 01:13:58,695 --> 01:14:00,479 And listening. 1451 01:14:00,653 --> 01:14:03,070 Blow it out. So who cares after we're done and it's fine. 1452 01:14:03,090 --> 01:14:05,441 This is the one thing that some people 1453 01:14:05,615 --> 01:14:07,704 forget is one of the most important 1454 01:14:07,878 --> 01:14:09,662 parts about playing music. 1455 01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:16,016 Hi! 1456 01:14:21,631 --> 01:14:24,416 My dad lived a... a tough life growing up, 1457 01:14:24,938 --> 01:14:27,593 He lost all his sisters except one in the war. 1458 01:14:27,767 --> 01:14:30,054 But there was the music, whether it was cantorial music, 1459 01:14:30,074 --> 01:14:31,902 whether it was the opera, 1460 01:14:32,076 --> 01:14:36,472 it was the power of music that kept my dad alive. 1461 01:14:36,646 --> 01:14:39,387 Surviving Auschwitz and Birkenau concentration camps. 1462 01:14:39,562 --> 01:14:41,389 You're just getting appetizers now? 1463 01:14:41,564 --> 01:14:43,633 - Just for now. Just for now. - Yeah, just to have something. 1464 01:14:43,653 --> 01:14:45,548 Something on the table, and there's gonna be other people. 1465 01:14:45,568 --> 01:14:47,265 So I don't vomit. 1466 01:14:48,396 --> 01:14:51,051 If they're playing three songs and it's 12, 15 minutes. 1467 01:14:51,225 --> 01:14:53,445 That goes by in a heartbeat. 1468 01:14:54,228 --> 01:14:56,230 I think we're almost the same size. 1469 01:14:56,404 --> 01:14:58,319 We can swap shoes. 1470 01:14:58,494 --> 01:15:00,954 And if that's going to be 12 minutes of blind terror, 1471 01:15:00,974 --> 01:15:02,565 then I've gone and I haven't done my job 1472 01:15:02,585 --> 01:15:04,674 and it's a bit of a waste. 1473 01:15:04,848 --> 01:15:07,807 You need to savour every single second of this. 1474 01:15:13,117 --> 01:15:15,902 I know. I know. 1475 01:15:16,076 --> 01:15:17,791 Rub, let some of that rub off of me. 1476 01:15:17,861 --> 01:15:19,669 - It's rubbing, there you go. - So that I'm not... not... 1477 01:15:19,689 --> 01:15:21,386 Not so scared all the time. 1478 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,455 Well, you know what it is? You're concentrating on 1479 01:15:23,475 --> 01:15:25,259 so many other things up there. 1480 01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:26,957 - Yeah. - And what do you forget? 1481 01:15:27,044 --> 01:15:28,997 Like the most important thing, breathing. 1482 01:15:29,089 --> 01:15:32,397 Please welcome back to the stage, Mr. Paul Stanley. 1483 01:15:51,111 --> 01:15:54,027 ♪ I feel uptight On a Saturday night ♪ 1484 01:15:54,201 --> 01:15:56,639 As a toddler, like he was nonverbal. 1485 01:15:56,813 --> 01:15:58,684 I mean, completely nonverbal. 1486 01:15:58,771 --> 01:16:00,860 ♪ The only light ♪ 1487 01:16:01,034 --> 01:16:02,906 When he puts a guitar on 1488 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,691 and there's a bunch of people out in the audience, 1489 01:16:05,865 --> 01:16:07,432 he's a different person 1490 01:16:07,519 --> 01:16:09,086 ♪ Hear my song ♪ 1491 01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:12,785 ♪ Playing on the radio ♪ 1492 01:16:12,872 --> 01:16:15,614 ♪ Get up, everybody's Gonna move their feet ♪ 1493 01:16:15,701 --> 01:16:18,835 ♪ Get down, everybody's Gonna leave their seat ♪ 1494 01:16:21,272 --> 01:16:23,130 Now you see a child at a very young age 1495 01:16:23,274 --> 01:16:25,655 and you don't know what his life's going to be like 1496 01:16:25,711 --> 01:16:27,583 as he gets older. 1497 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,900 And, you know, to see him grow and 1498 01:16:31,021 --> 01:16:33,501 be able to do something, it's just fantastic. 1499 01:16:33,676 --> 01:16:36,057 I mean, as a parent, you can ask for anything more. 1500 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,726 ♪ Get up, everybody's Gonna move their feet ♪ 1501 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,384 Oh, the screams. 1502 01:16:46,558 --> 01:16:48,647 That was the camp and Mr. Paul Stanley. 1503 01:16:51,781 --> 01:16:55,741 It's really a... a... A moment for people to 1504 01:16:55,915 --> 01:16:59,745 rub shoulders and... and get some pointers 1505 01:16:59,919 --> 01:17:03,314 that they'll probably never use at Madison Square Garden. 1506 01:17:03,488 --> 01:17:05,533 It's not about that, it's not about 1507 01:17:05,708 --> 01:17:07,100 how good you are. 1508 01:17:07,274 --> 01:17:09,363 It's about how much you enjoy playing. 1509 01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:16,806 ♪ Tough girl! Tough girl! ♪ 1510 01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:19,112 No more worries about the dumb notes. 1511 01:17:19,286 --> 01:17:21,985 We'll live the music, yeah, if you're not singing. 1512 01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:24,944 Who cares about you? It's all about just having fun. 1513 01:17:27,904 --> 01:17:30,210 Thank you very much. Love you guys. 1514 01:17:31,559 --> 01:17:34,519 Mick Jagger on steroids. Rob Cohen. 1515 01:17:36,216 --> 01:17:37,931 He told me that I could be a real... 1516 01:17:38,088 --> 01:17:39,896 Maybe not a rock star, but if I could be 1517 01:17:39,916 --> 01:17:41,787 a really, really good musician, 1518 01:17:41,961 --> 01:17:44,834 does that mean that I have to be a rock star to be that? No. 1519 01:17:45,182 --> 01:17:46,990 No, I could be that in my own little world, 1520 01:17:47,010 --> 01:17:48,359 and I'm happy with that. 1521 01:17:48,533 --> 01:17:51,057 All right, everyone. Mr. Paul Stanley. 1522 01:18:01,459 --> 01:18:03,461 ♪ I know! ♪ 1523 01:18:05,376 --> 01:18:07,334 ♪ I know! ♪ 1524 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:10,947 ♪ I know... ♪ 1525 01:18:11,121 --> 01:18:13,993 I'm singing for the first time on stage. 1526 01:18:18,824 --> 01:18:21,015 I can do this like, you know, I'm going for it. 1527 01:18:23,568 --> 01:18:25,521 Sometimes you need that kick in the butt. 1528 01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:29,119 Because your lack of confidence stops you from doing things 1529 01:18:29,139 --> 01:18:32,664 that you actually probably can do. 1530 01:18:32,751 --> 01:18:36,189 ♪ Everybody Just don't let it go ♪ 1531 01:18:36,276 --> 01:18:40,019 ♪ And again Don't let it go ♪ 1532 01:18:40,106 --> 01:18:42,065 ♪ Trouble! ♪ 1533 01:18:44,894 --> 01:18:46,722 To play for these musicians on stage 1534 01:18:46,896 --> 01:18:49,028 was just an extra icing on the cake. 1535 01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:53,250 Paul Stanley saying, I reminded him of Buddy Miles. 1536 01:18:53,424 --> 01:18:55,282 He says, "Man, what are you doing here?" 1537 01:18:55,382 --> 01:18:57,625 You know, he said, "You should be out there working, man. 1538 01:18:57,645 --> 01:18:59,169 And playing for a living." 1539 01:18:59,343 --> 01:19:01,519 And then Zakk Wylde, come on. 1540 01:19:01,693 --> 01:19:03,303 You know, that's... 1541 01:19:03,477 --> 01:19:05,479 That's pretty damn awesome. 1542 01:19:05,566 --> 01:19:08,744 ♪ Baby! Baby! ♪ 1543 01:19:08,918 --> 01:19:10,484 You know, your nervousness 1544 01:19:10,658 --> 01:19:12,249 goes through the roof when one of your heroes 1545 01:19:12,269 --> 01:19:14,314 is watching you jam, but in a cool way. 1546 01:19:15,751 --> 01:19:19,319 You just in life don't really end up in that crucible. 1547 01:19:19,493 --> 01:19:22,453 It's like you're basically living with these rock stars 1548 01:19:22,627 --> 01:19:25,238 who you've grown up idolizing. 1549 01:19:26,718 --> 01:19:29,547 I don't think anyone can go into that experience and not 1550 01:19:29,721 --> 01:19:31,505 learn about themselves. 1551 01:19:53,005 --> 01:19:55,399 One of the things I enjoy at camp, 1552 01:19:55,573 --> 01:19:57,859 I always call myself... I'm a Jewish Santa Claus. 1553 01:20:02,972 --> 01:20:05,844 If I can make a difference in these people's lives every day. 1554 01:20:06,018 --> 01:20:08,194 Then that's what's important for me. 1555 01:20:09,892 --> 01:20:11,894 You know, I am raised orthodox. 1556 01:20:12,068 --> 01:20:13,896 And I'm in rock and roll and sports. 1557 01:20:14,461 --> 01:20:16,899 I did take the yarmulke to the next level. 1558 01:20:20,685 --> 01:20:22,295 Oh, did you guys hear? 1559 01:20:22,469 --> 01:20:24,123 - Wow. - What! 1560 01:20:24,297 --> 01:20:26,909 Look at this camper at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 1561 01:20:27,083 --> 01:20:28,655 What an honour. Give me some love. 1562 01:20:28,824 --> 01:20:30,042 All right. 1563 01:20:30,216 --> 01:20:31,807 Jackson, I'm thrilled you're here. 1564 01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:33,480 - Excited? - Yeah. 1565 01:20:33,654 --> 01:20:35,071 Right. Is this a dream for you too? 1566 01:20:35,091 --> 01:20:36,463 Go to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp? 1567 01:20:36,483 --> 01:20:37,745 - Yeah. - It's my dream too 1568 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,540 - that you're here. - Can you rock? 1569 01:20:39,617 --> 01:20:41,575 - Yeah. - What's your rock star name? 1570 01:20:41,749 --> 01:20:44,013 - J.J. Rockpow. - Great. 1571 01:20:44,187 --> 01:20:46,493 Hey, dad. What's your name? 1572 01:20:46,667 --> 01:20:49,366 - Father of J.J. Rockpow. - That's it. Now you got it. 1573 01:20:49,540 --> 01:20:51,324 You ready to do it? 1574 01:20:51,498 --> 01:20:52,804 Yeah. 1575 01:20:52,978 --> 01:20:54,806 Get some rock power here. 1576 01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:56,634 Okay? You ready? 1577 01:20:57,461 --> 01:20:59,463 What! 1578 01:21:01,030 --> 01:21:02,988 Hit it, Tucky. 1579 01:21:17,307 --> 01:21:19,091 It's very easy in this business, 1580 01:21:19,265 --> 01:21:21,702 which we're incredibly privileged 1581 01:21:21,877 --> 01:21:23,306 to forget where you came from. 1582 01:21:23,356 --> 01:21:26,055 But these camps reminded me of where I was 1583 01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:28,884 when I made my first guitar, you know? 1584 01:21:29,058 --> 01:21:30,842 We reminded ourselves 1585 01:21:31,016 --> 01:21:33,279 why we started playing in the first place. 1586 01:21:33,453 --> 01:21:35,194 By the time it's all over, you know 1587 01:21:35,368 --> 01:21:37,849 everything about their mother and their father. 1588 01:21:38,023 --> 01:21:39,720 It's pretty cool. 1589 01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,854 They're rock stars for the weekend. It's rock and roll. 1590 01:21:43,028 --> 01:21:46,945 It's in the title, right? The Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. 1591 01:21:47,032 --> 01:21:48,555 ♪ Let's do this together! ♪ 1592 01:21:48,729 --> 01:21:52,603 Because of fantasy camp, a light came on 1593 01:21:52,777 --> 01:21:54,997 to me about what I do and how lucky I am 1594 01:21:55,171 --> 01:21:58,391 and how blessed us musicians 1595 01:21:58,565 --> 01:22:00,611 who get to play music for a living. 1596 01:22:00,785 --> 01:22:02,743 It's like, "I got it, mate." 1597 01:22:02,918 --> 01:22:04,585 I've got the best job in the world. 1598 01:22:07,139 --> 01:22:09,402 All the belly. The belly. 1599 01:22:10,055 --> 01:22:11,404 Oh! 1600 01:22:11,578 --> 01:22:14,059 Wow. Handwork. 1601 01:22:15,843 --> 01:22:17,976 There you... Oh, there you go. 1602 01:22:24,678 --> 01:22:26,869 I've had situations where people are so excited 1603 01:22:27,029 --> 01:22:28,839 about the camp, and when they're done, 1604 01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:30,316 they'll write to me, go, "Listen. 1605 01:22:30,336 --> 01:22:31,956 I'm thinking about quitting my job 1606 01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:33,667 and... and go and do music full time." 1607 01:22:33,687 --> 01:22:35,167 And that's when you have to... 1608 01:22:35,341 --> 01:22:37,019 You have to rein them in a little bit. 1609 01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:38,977 You go, well, don't... just not just yet. 1610 01:22:38,997 --> 01:22:40,259 You know, but it happens. 1611 01:22:43,741 --> 01:22:45,837 First one to get there and the last to leave. 1612 01:22:45,917 --> 01:22:47,223 I hate that. 1613 01:22:49,442 --> 01:22:51,836 Next life, I'm playing flute. 1614 01:22:51,923 --> 01:22:53,838 ♪ Get that old man! ♪ 1615 01:22:54,012 --> 01:22:55,709 Nobody is born a rock star. 1616 01:22:55,883 --> 01:22:57,885 Nobody is born president or anything. 1617 01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:00,497 They started off as kids also. 1618 01:23:00,671 --> 01:23:04,240 And the magic of the camp is you actually meet somebody 1619 01:23:04,414 --> 01:23:08,287 who scaled Mount Olympus and you have the sense 1620 01:23:08,461 --> 01:23:09,897 maybe I can do it too. 1621 01:23:14,641 --> 01:23:17,427 Have you been practising? 1622 01:23:17,514 --> 01:23:20,299 - Yeah. - ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪ 1623 01:23:21,997 --> 01:23:23,955 Beethoven would always say, you know, 1624 01:23:24,129 --> 01:23:25,676 it's not about playing the right notes, 1625 01:23:25,696 --> 01:23:28,655 it's if... if you have passion. 1626 01:23:28,742 --> 01:23:32,137 ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪ 1627 01:23:32,224 --> 01:23:34,879 ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪ 1628 01:23:34,966 --> 01:23:37,708 ♪ We're gonna rock 'n' roll ♪ 1629 01:23:37,882 --> 01:23:39,188 Here we go! 1630 01:23:41,799 --> 01:23:44,193 - Louder! - ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪ 1631 01:23:44,367 --> 01:23:47,196 If Bob Dylan and Gene Simmons and Jimi Hendrix 1632 01:23:47,283 --> 01:23:49,617 audition for The Voice, do you think we'd make it? 1633 01:23:50,329 --> 01:23:52,139 Well, it's about time. This is about... 1634 01:23:52,201 --> 01:23:53,401 You think we'd make it? 1635 01:24:02,689 --> 01:24:04,497 I always think that the people that show up 1636 01:24:04,517 --> 01:24:06,108 at the Fantasy Camp are people that 1637 01:24:06,128 --> 01:24:07,587 have it in the back of their mind. 1638 01:24:07,607 --> 01:24:08,913 -You know, -All right. 1639 01:24:09,087 --> 01:24:11,220 This could develop into something, 1640 01:24:11,394 --> 01:24:14,179 that something could happen if I got really good. 1641 01:24:16,442 --> 01:24:18,270 ♪ Whoa! ♪ 1642 01:24:23,014 --> 01:24:25,451 I... I can't think of a more fun thing to do. 1643 01:24:25,625 --> 01:24:28,063 I mean it's better than stamp collecting, you know? 1644 01:24:36,941 --> 01:24:40,684 ♪ Get your drums and bass, Guitars and amps ♪ 1645 01:24:40,771 --> 01:24:44,862 ♪ Put your dreams on the line And take a chance ♪ 1646 01:24:44,949 --> 01:24:48,474 ♪ Jamming out together and start a hot band ♪ 1647 01:24:48,561 --> 01:24:51,695 ♪ Because this is The Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪ 1648 01:24:51,782 --> 01:24:53,784 ♪ We like to rock ♪ 1649 01:24:55,307 --> 01:24:57,179 ♪ We like to roll ♪ 1650 01:24:59,094 --> 01:25:01,139 ♪ We like it hot ♪ 1651 01:25:02,749 --> 01:25:06,797 ♪ We play with heart and soul ♪ 1652 01:25:06,884 --> 01:25:10,801 ♪ Come on everybody And take a chance ♪ 1653 01:25:10,888 --> 01:25:14,674 ♪ And join the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪ 1654 01:25:14,761 --> 01:25:18,548 ♪ Join the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪ 1655 01:25:25,729 --> 01:25:29,341 ♪ You're never too young, You're never too old ♪ 1656 01:25:29,428 --> 01:25:32,953 ♪ To dig in to the beat And play some Rock and Roll ♪ 1657 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,566 ♪ If band's your rhythm, You write your own song ♪ 1658 01:25:36,653 --> 01:25:40,047 ♪ It's a dream of a lifetime, It's where you belong ♪ 1659 01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:43,399 ♪ We like to rock ♪ 1660 01:25:43,486 --> 01:25:47,403 ♪ We like to roll ♪ 1661 01:25:47,490 --> 01:25:49,796 ♪ We like it hot ♪ 1662 01:25:51,102 --> 01:25:53,626 ♪ We play with heart and soul ♪ 1663 01:25:55,454 --> 01:25:59,154 ♪ Come on everybody And take a chance ♪ 1664 01:25:59,241 --> 01:26:03,027 ♪ And join the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪ 1665 01:26:03,114 --> 01:26:07,118 ♪ Join the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪ 1666 01:26:14,038 --> 01:26:17,781 ♪ You're never too young, You're never too old ♪ 1667 01:26:17,868 --> 01:26:21,088 ♪ To dig in to the beat And play some Rock and Roll ♪ 1668 01:26:21,176 --> 01:26:24,962 ♪ If band's your rhythm, You write your own song ♪ 1669 01:26:25,049 --> 01:26:28,400 ♪ It's a dream of a lifetime, It's where you belong ♪ 1670 01:26:28,487 --> 01:26:30,663 ♪ We like to rock ♪ 1671 01:26:32,056 --> 01:26:34,014 ♪ We like to roll ♪ 1672 01:26:35,755 --> 01:26:38,062 ♪ We like it hot ♪ 1673 01:26:39,542 --> 01:26:42,066 ♪ We play with heart and soul ♪ 1674 01:26:43,807 --> 01:26:47,506 ♪ Come on everybody And take a chance ♪ 1675 01:26:47,593 --> 01:26:51,380 ♪ And join the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪ 1676 01:26:51,467 --> 01:26:54,426 ♪ Join the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪ 1677 01:26:54,513 --> 01:26:56,907 ♪ We like to rock ♪ 1678 01:26:58,082 --> 01:27:00,215 ♪ We like to roll ♪ 1679 01:27:01,868 --> 01:27:04,131 ♪ We like to rock ♪ 1680 01:27:05,481 --> 01:27:07,613 ♪ We like to roll ♪ 129382

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