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I'm 68.
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And I feel like I'm 28.
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But I sit next to guys on airplanes
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and a guy has, you know,
got a grey suit on.
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He's lost most of his hair
and he's sweating.
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He goes,
"I'm going to be 55 next week."
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And you look at this guy and go,
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I'm 20 years older than you,
you know, something like that.
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And you realize
that his job, his lifestyle
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has nearly killed him.
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The stress of his lifestyle.
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What if that guy,
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on the weekends,
had a rock and roll band?
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I guarantee you
he'd feel a hundred times better
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because he has something
to look forward to.
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It would be something that he...
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While he's doing
his stressful job, he's going,
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"Yeah, but I got to learn
the chords to 'Gloria.'"
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If you've always wanted to be a rock star
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and come on, really, who didn't?
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But you listened to your parents
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when they told you to get a real job,
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there may still be hope.
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John Entwistle
is the first one to tell me
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about this fantasy camp.
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And he said, "Would you do it?"
And I thought,
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"Well, why not?" You know,
it just sound like a bit fun.
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We've all secretly dreamed
of being Rock Gods,
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jamming out in front of adoring fans.
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Welcome to rock and roll fantasy camp
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where you'll experience the
complete rock and roll lifestyle
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without the lawsuits and STDs.
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Woo! STDs!
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My first thoughts were,
"All this seems kind of cheesy."
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I never dreamed I would
ever actually have a food fight
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with the Grand Funk Railroad.
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And then an hour later, be eating fish
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that Ted Nugent caught himself.
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I couldn't wrap my head around it.
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I... I had to experience it.
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You know, I was kind of worried
that it might just be like a...
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- A fan thing.
- This camp rocks.
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I remember thinking, what
a great opportunity to get back
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and work with people
from all walks of life.
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And they're coming here to experience
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and do something they've never
done before in their lives.
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The hardest I ever worked
in one day in my life.
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Looking forward to another
good bashing at rock camp.
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Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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I think what's kept
the camp around so long is
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these rock stars, they get a spark.
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Because it's really about the music.
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- That's great.
- It's pure.
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Okay.
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- Hello.
- Teddy.
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It's David.
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This next song features
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Mr. Teddy "Zig Zag"
"Big Bag" Andreadis,
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the Greek on the harmonica.
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Tony, how are you?
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I'm good, David.
How are you doing?
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- Vinny, you there?
- I'm here.
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Let me tell you about your band.
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Um, on drums, you got...
You got Paul de la Carta.
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Rob Cohen is a vocalist.
I love that Blake Meinhardt.
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I've seen that kid grow up in camp.
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- That's cool.
- Artists love to give back
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because they realize that their
success is based on the fan.
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You have Cammy Fisher,
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who has come to the camp
previously as a drummer,
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and she wants to
be a vocalist, this camp.
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Can you imagine a guy like you
going from drums to vocals?
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You... You'd get more chicks.
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Well, not the way
I sing. I might lose the chicks.
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Tony, thank you so much.
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Are you excited about Vegas?
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I'm looking
forward to it. I always...
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I like working with Paul.
He's a great, great human being.
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Okay, we'll be in touch.
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- I'll see you in Vegas.
- Thank you. Bye.
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Okay, bye.
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I grew up in Hackensack,
New Jersey, really as a child.
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So I... I attribute the success
being at a young age
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and, uh, going to synagogue
with my father.
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My father was a cantor and...
And I was the only kid there.
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I learned to talk to people
that were older than me,
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and they looked to help me out,
they were just so sweet.
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You know, I was the Cantor's son.
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And it really gave me the confidence
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that I could talk to anyone.
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It is the huge resort
hotel, which is the best bet
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for the city dweller
who is looking in the country
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for the same amusements he has in town,
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but with fresh air and sunshine added.
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The Catskills was a place
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where we went to camp in the summer.
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They were places where people would go,
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two hours outside New York
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and they would basically take a week
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and go up there, stuff their faces
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and they'd go swimming,
they'd play bingo.
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And then every night there was a...
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A... a show with, uh,
a singer and a comedian.
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Look at that, what he's doing?
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What do you think the boy was doing?
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- Sawing a dog in half.
- It was camp for adults.
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I became a waiter in
the hotels in the Catskills.
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My brother's a drummer,
he had a Jewish rock band.
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I wanted to be in the band.
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I tried, I played one gig on bass.
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I was so bad.
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My dad turned to me and he said,
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"Why don't you go out
and book your brother's band
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and then you can book six
other bands at the same time?"
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Don't become an artist,
be an entrepreneur.
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And here I was booking
comedians and singers.
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When I collect the money
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after the Saturday night show on Sunday,
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the owners would take off $25
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because the comedian wasn't funny
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or the singer didn't do a Yiddish song.
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It got me so frustrated because
I knew the show was great.
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I was there.
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I'll never forget, uh,
Dr. Jay showed up to camp.
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When I saw 2,000 kids
running up to Dr. Jay,
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I said, "This is the business
I want to be in."
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That's when I became a sports agent.
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I said, I want to represent
athletes instead.
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David Fishof is an agent who lists
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Phil Simms, Vince Ferragamo
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and Hacksaw Reynolds amongst his clients.
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Basically, I try and negotiate
the best contracts possible
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and get them the most money.
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Phil Simms,
you've just won the Super Bowl.
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- What are you doing next?
- I'm gonna go to Disney World.
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David, you're, uh, neither
an attorney nor a former player.
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What are your qualifications?
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Um, I started basically
in the entertainment business,
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and I believe professional sports is
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in... in its own way, show business.
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Getting commercials and promotions.
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I'm going to bring
this back to its knees.
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♪ Oh-la-la, Sasson ♪
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♪ Oh-la-la, Sasson ♪
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I'm sharing office space
with different music managers.
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Earth, Wind and Fire's manager,
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Meatloaf's manager and record label.
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Madonna's manager, Shep Gordon,
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who was representing
Teddy Pendergrass at the time,
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and Alice Cooper, The Ramones.
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Everyone has gold records on the wall,
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and I love the creativity
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about this record they were recording.
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And so I... I started getting
bored with professional sports.
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♪ I'm gonna play a song ♪
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A little bit of Rock and Roll ♪
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My name is Tammy Fisher.
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You are in Lanoka Harbor
in lovely New Jersey,
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down the shore, as we say.
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On the home front,
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I have a wonderful man
that I've been married to
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for quite a long time.
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I'm a mom. I have two great,
beautiful daughters.
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I'm very, very blessed and very lucky.
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And I think I have a very good life.
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♪ Get down on that ♪
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They have a special thing,
and I've used it before,
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it's kind of funny, but
it's called Monkey Butt Paste.
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And literally, yeah,
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they put it down here
so it catches the sweat.
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I was like, what is this for?
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If I'm having a really bad day,
I'm putting on bandana.
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Anything to bang my head, to scream.
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It's the screaming metal,
I don't know why.
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I find solace in the screaming metal.
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That takes my mind away from
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the guy who fell asleep next
to me on my bus and commute.
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I've had many people do that.
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They fall asleep in my lap, fall asleep,
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drool on my shoulder
like disgusting things.
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I'm an accountant
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and I work for a pretty
high profile public company.
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It's a... It's a tough job.
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I'm one of the very few
female vice presidents there.
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I have to make my team
feel like I know everything
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and trust me, I don't.
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Obviously, you are aware that,
yes, our team takes training
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and development very seriously here
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to enhance your skill set with regards to
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variance reporting and analysis.
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I know.
Really exciting topic, right?
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No claps? Come on.
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Tough crowd.
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So how long you've been
doing this band camp?
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Uh, let me see, I'm in my third year
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and coming up on my fifth camp.
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Wow.
What's your favourite moment?
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Uh, my... my back massage
from Rob Halford.
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It doesn't get any better than that.
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Nice, so do you learn a lot with him?
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Oh my God, I've learned so much.
Every single camp, I go there.
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You know, you get in a room with
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four other people you don't know,
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and everybody wants to play
a different song.
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And half of them I never even knew.
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And it's like, the counsellor
will go, "Just wing it, do it."
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And I've had to learn new songs
every single time I go.
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- Must be hard.
- So it pushes me.
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Yeah, it's scary.
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Would you rather play drums or sing?
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I don't know, the
singing is new and scary to me.
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- Let's see.
- Okay.
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- Yeah.
- It's going to be tough.
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Oh, New York is so rock
and roll. Everything goes.
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I see a caped Batman
almost every other morning.
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Running down from
Port Authority, you know?
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You know what?
That's rock and roll in my bar.
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Go ahead. Go for it, Batman.
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Started the same way for us
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as it probably is
for the rest of you guys.
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You know, going over your
buddies house, smoking some pot
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and jamming out to a rush record.
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You can see the fingerprints
on the... on the "O."
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You see those?
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Those are the fingerprints
that were by Jeff Beck.
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Those are his fingerprints.
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And under the M, that's
Eric Clapton's fingerprints.
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So that thing is now worth $100,000.
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♪ I thought love was... ♪
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David Fishof was a mythical character
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because he was the gentleman
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who had put The Monkees back together
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and had helped relaunch them
in the mid to late 1980s.
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You don't want to
take credit for the idea?
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- Yeah, that's all right.
- In all...
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- In all fairness, it was...
- Go wide.
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- Go wide.
- Micky, who's idea was it?
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In all fairness, it was, uh,
a guy named David Fishof
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who in last couple of years
has put together
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a Happy Together Tour,
a nostalgic concert show
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that toured around the country,
did very well.
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David very successfully
revived this tour,
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kind of like thinking outside the box.
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I don't know what prompted him to do it,
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made him think that
he could be successful doing it.
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He's had all this
success, and you wonder,
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how much does he really
know about what he's doing?
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Somebody once described David
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as a guy who took
the yarmulke to another level.
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Now, thanks to MTV and syndication,
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The Monkees are hot again.
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Look, he's eating bananas.
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Is that it?
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David is the only agent that I know
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who could say he represented
sports figures and a Beatle.
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David Fisher, he came
over to London and he said, uh,
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"Do you want to go on tour?"
I was like, "Let me think."
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And then I said yes.
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Well, I met David Fishof in 1989
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when he produced Ringo Starr
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as All-Starr Band in his first tour.
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And he really did the world a favour.
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Ringo hadn't toured on his own
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and now it's, uh, many,
many, many years later,
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and Ringo still tours
almost every summer.
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You know, I'm not a rock and roller.
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I'm the last guy that...
That's a rock and roller.
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And part of being in rock and
roll, it's a lot of hanging time
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I turned to Ringo after the third show.
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I remember we were
in Buffalo and I said, uh,
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"I'm going to go home and I'll see you
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in Chicago in two weeks."
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And he turned to me he said, uh,
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"Remember you promised me
you're going to be with me?"
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I said, "Well, that was agent talk.
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You know, I don't really
go on these tours."
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I remember calling my wife and saying,
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Okay, I'll see you at
home in eight weeks.
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"I'm going on the road
with Ringo Starr."
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And out on the road, something
happened that changed my life.
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We're backstage
for the fourth show of the tour,
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Nils Lofgren, Clarence Clemons
comes over to me at dinner
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and tell me they're quitting
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because Joe Walsh and Levon Helm
are having a fight.
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They want me to come and break it up.
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And I had just mortgaged
my home to finance the tour.
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Yeah, we had a great time.
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We got him good.
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- Just chill out.
- You think you got it...
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We had set him up completely.
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And Levon I were screaming at each other.
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When he walked in,
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I pushed Levon and he pushed me back
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and he took the beer bottle
and broke it on his road case.
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So it was a broken bottle
and came over and stabbed me.
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- Hey! Jesus!
- Goddammit man, cut it out.
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- Come on.
- You got a show now.
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I had fake blood.
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I started bleeding profusely
and David was just...
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Now wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait.
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Come on, man. Come on.
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Get out of here.
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I walked away and I said to myself,
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"Wow, these guys are nuts."
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But I realized how much
fun these guys have.
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Documented.
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And that's how I came up with
idea of rock roll fantasy camp.
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What if I could give this
to people, to a fan to enjoy
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and see what it's like
to be with all these rock stars?
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I completely understand why anybody
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who's never been to
a rock and roll fantasy camp
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would be apprehensive
about coming because I was.
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But I walk into the room
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and I'm going like,
"Wow, this sounds awful,
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but look at the fun
they're having."
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And behind every young camper,
there's always
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incredibly supportive family.
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All right.
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What key is this song in, Blake?
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It's, um,
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like it's in E.
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Great.
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Music.
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It has definitely strengthened
my and his relationship.
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If we're in the car,
we're driving somewhere,
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I'll ask him a question
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and say, "Blake,
who produced this album?"
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And then he'll spit it out.
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- What key is this in?
- It's in E.
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- It's in E?
- Yeah.
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He knows who the producer is.
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He knows where it was
produced at, at what studio.
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This one sounds like it's in A.
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He even knows songs
down to the writing credits of,
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you know, who actually wrote the song.
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There'll be some obscure,
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it will be like a Zappa song
or something will come up
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I'm like "He don't know Frank
Zappa," and he'll just be...
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Wow. It's Slash.
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Blake, at a very young age between,
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I'd say, three or four,
he was diagnosed with autism.
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- Is it?
- Blake got a Alice Cooper doll.
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As a parent to hear
those words it's like,
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"Yo...
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what did we do wrong?
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Blake would not communicate.
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He didn't really start
talking until age five.
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I mean, he wouldn't say anything.
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- Find it Blake.
- Come on.
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You look for something
to make your child happy.
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I mean, I played guitar, and
Blake would sit on the couch.
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I would sit there,
and I'd start strumming chords.
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It got to a point
where at age ten, he said,
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I want to start taking guitar lessons.
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Told my wife, I said,
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we'll bring him out to
Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
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You know what better way?
Baptism by fire.
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Throw him out there and just, you know,
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I mean, I won't put him
in harm's way or anything,
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I said, let's just try
and see what he'll do.
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For starter, uh, boys are back in town
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and, uh, I just want to jam, man.
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The transformation has been unbelievable.
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He lives and breathes music,
there's nothing more important.
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Like that just... It's his world.
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And he's a hard worker.
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So that passion clicked in his head
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and that's why we're here.
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He's a happy kid.
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You can't ask for anything more.
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When I went to the fantasy camp,
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it was interesting to me, the age group.
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You would have a 15 year old
kid playing drums
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and a 45 year old dentist on guitar.
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That's one of the things
you have to get past
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when you sing with these guys.
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You look around the band, you go,
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"Wow, if this band were a real band,
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it would be the weirdest
band ever, but cool."
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We're talking about
rock and roll fantasy camp
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and it's rocking and rolling.
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I did my first camp
in Florida, um, on the beach.
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All at the Eden Rock Hotel,
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at a five day, four night,
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00:21:00,128 --> 00:21:02,435
first time ever
rock and roll fantasy camp.
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Dreamed up by a promoter
when he was touring with
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some guy named Ringo Starr.
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The biggest thing in our business is
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everyone's scared to be
labelled as hip, as not hip.
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I... I never believe not to do
anything because it's not hip.
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You do something because
it's good, it's entertaining,
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and if you have an idea,
you make it happen.
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That the greatest people can
be intrigued by rock and roll.
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Here's an opportunity for everybody
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to get a chance to get involved.
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When I saw the names on the list,
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when I first saw it, I was like,
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"All these guys are be in
the same place at one time?"
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These fans, and they are
going to say to their friends,
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You dipstick, you should
have been there, I told you.
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You just want to put
this finger on that note.
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00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,004
There's this genuine respect
and love for the music
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00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:51,527
that we did in those days.
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00:21:51,701 --> 00:21:53,529
All the press came out.
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About a week later,
I'm watching The Tonight Show,
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00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:58,039
and there's Jay Leno
and he's doing his monologue.
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00:21:58,186 --> 00:21:59,820
He said, Jerry,
hear about this rock and roll
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00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,102
fantasy camp they have?
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00:22:01,276 --> 00:22:02,843
He said, "For $5,000,
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you can jam with a bunch
of B rock and roll stars."
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00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:06,934
He said, "For $5,500,
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you could check yourself
in the Betty Ford Clinic
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and jam with a bunch
of A rock and roll stars."
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We got a lot of press, a lot of media,
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00:22:14,811 --> 00:22:17,466
and we signed up about 15, 20 people.
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It was such a dreadful
experience financially.
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You know, I chalked it up to,
418
00:22:22,993 --> 00:22:25,561
"Okay, I have five great ideas in a row,
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never going to do it again."
420
00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:29,957
And that's what life is as a promoter.
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00:22:30,131 --> 00:22:32,176
You know, you take your chances.
422
00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:37,747
Articles were coming out in...
In Entertainment Weekly
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00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,662
and you were reading about this.
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00:22:40,446 --> 00:22:42,297
One day I got a phone call from Citibank.
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00:22:42,317 --> 00:22:43,794
They wanted to do a commercial.
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00:22:47,278 --> 00:22:49,890
Sam begged and pleaded,
so I sent him to camp.
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00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:52,394
We'd earned lots of points with
our new Citi Thank You Card.
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00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:55,374
He even hangs out with the camp director.
429
00:22:56,679 --> 00:22:58,202
Just like that.
430
00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,997
Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp kind of
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00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:01,447
just showed up in pop culture.
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00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:03,207
Bones did an episode.
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00:23:04,861 --> 00:23:06,689
Yeah!
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Gift certificate
to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
435
00:23:08,778 --> 00:23:10,563
Now, what's that?
436
00:23:10,737 --> 00:23:13,499
You're going to be singing
with Roger Daltrey from the Who.
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00:23:13,957 --> 00:23:17,352
♪ People try to put us down ♪
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00:23:17,526 --> 00:23:19,398
I sang with Roger Daltrey.
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00:23:19,572 --> 00:23:21,182
Good job.
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00:23:21,356 --> 00:23:23,314
I can now die.
441
00:23:24,054 --> 00:23:26,013
Ellen did it for a comedy show.
442
00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:29,045
I'm talking about having fun.
I've got a bad song in my head.
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00:23:29,146 --> 00:23:31,041
And with your help,
I think we can perform it
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00:23:31,061 --> 00:23:33,252
very poorly in front
of people who will pretend
445
00:23:33,368 --> 00:23:35,196
just as poorly to enjoy it,
446
00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:37,787
because that's what rock and
roll fantasy camp is all about.
447
00:23:37,807 --> 00:23:39,896
My root beer, Hash.
448
00:23:39,983 --> 00:23:41,811
Simpsonswas amazing for us.
449
00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:45,249
Hello, campers.
450
00:23:45,336 --> 00:23:48,165
One day I was driving
to work at The Simpsons
451
00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:50,060
and I'm listening
to the Howard Stern Show,
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00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,734
and he was promoting this thing
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00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,128
called Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
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00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:55,956
Entertainment Weekly has listed it
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as one of the top 25 episodes.
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- Paparazzi to the left.
- I got them.
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00:24:05,618 --> 00:24:07,251
The whole thing about the rock camp
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is that I end up learning new things.
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00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,451
I mean, a lot of really good
players come through, you know,
460
00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:14,583
and, uh, rubbing elbows with everybody
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00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:17,151
it's fun on this journey.
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00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,376
- Ready to order?
- I... I am.
463
00:24:25,551 --> 00:24:28,684
- How about the mushroom burger?
- All right.
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00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:31,034
They call me Pistol
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00:24:31,208 --> 00:24:33,828
because when I was younger,
I listened to a Motown album
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00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:35,497
and I'm like, this is...
This sounds great.
467
00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:37,476
And keep in mind, I'm in the fifth grade
468
00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:39,501
and I'm reading the liner notes
and it says,
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00:24:39,521 --> 00:24:41,131
Richard "Pistol" Allen on drums.
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00:24:41,305 --> 00:24:43,244
And I'm like,
that's who I want to play like,
471
00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:44,831
Richard Pistol Allen.
472
00:24:45,005 --> 00:24:46,672
Mind you, knew nothing about drums.
473
00:24:46,746 --> 00:24:48,312
I just knew I like that man.
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00:24:59,410 --> 00:25:01,151
Fries are freshly cut.
475
00:25:01,848 --> 00:25:04,807
Oh, and the ketchup, fresh.
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00:25:05,939 --> 00:25:07,767
Right off the vine.
477
00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:10,160
There's a book that I recall,
The Healing Drum.
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00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:12,316
It goes back into Africa
and it talks about
479
00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:15,383
when children are born
into the tribes themselves,
480
00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:18,647
they are raised to be
master drummers in the tribes.
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All the communication is...
Is done through drums
482
00:25:22,433 --> 00:25:24,328
because that is the heartbeat
of what we do.
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00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:26,568
We walk in rhythm, we talk in rhythm,
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00:25:26,742 --> 00:25:28,352
we blink our eyes in rhythm.
485
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:31,268
Everything that we do, uh,
is surrounded by rhythm.
486
00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:34,445
The drummers responsibility
in the... in the band is...
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00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:36,622
Is essential.
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That's my rhythm.
489
00:25:39,712 --> 00:25:41,627
See? That's that
constant heartbeat.
490
00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:44,717
My job is to lock it in and stay
there and give them something
491
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that they can move to
because they feel the rhythm.
492
00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:54,944
When I was younger,
I went to church with my dad
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because he was the most
important person in my life.
494
00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:01,429
- Morning, Fong. How are you?
- Hi.
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00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:03,237
I think it's important for us to have
496
00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:04,934
something or someone that we believe in.
497
00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:06,521
Thank you. Bye-bye now.
498
00:26:07,304 --> 00:26:08,828
See you next week.
499
00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:13,963
There's been so many opportunities for me
500
00:26:14,137 --> 00:26:16,966
to be around people that
did drugs, that were in gangs.
501
00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:19,752
And I grew up in
the heart of that in L.A.
502
00:26:21,623 --> 00:26:25,061
A lot of my friends,
they became gang members.
503
00:26:25,235 --> 00:26:27,150
Uh, they got involved in drugs.
504
00:26:27,324 --> 00:26:29,848
And those are things that
I just wasn't interested in.
505
00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:34,224
Partly so because I saw
my brothers and sisters fall
506
00:26:34,244 --> 00:26:37,683
victim to that stuff and
I saw how much it hurt my dad.
507
00:26:38,684 --> 00:26:42,296
And... And I really think
it sent him to an early grave.
508
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:44,583
So I, again, I probably still
need to work through it.
509
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,280
But I have a lot of
resentment towards them
510
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,954
because they deprived me
511
00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:51,392
of the love and growing up with a father.
512
00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:53,350
The God had his hand
513
00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:55,962
in seeing that I didn't
fall victim to that.
514
00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:59,095
So somehow he put drums in my life.
515
00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:13,568
I really think that
if it wasn't for music,
516
00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:14,981
I wouldn't be here today
517
00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:16,983
or I don't know what I would be doing.
518
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:20,813
Music has gotten me
through a lot of things.
519
00:27:21,596 --> 00:27:23,467
It's my foundation.
520
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,145
You can take anything else away from me,
521
00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:26,737
but don't take this away from me.
522
00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:28,516
You know, I have to have this.
523
00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:33,869
I love it because I
always make sure as a counsellor
524
00:27:34,043 --> 00:27:36,002
that my band, whether we're good or not,
525
00:27:36,176 --> 00:27:38,134
is that they're having a good time.
526
00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:40,856
You know, you look at what your band is
527
00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:42,641
and you go, "Okay, this person can play.
528
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,837
This person can kind of play,
529
00:27:45,011 --> 00:27:48,188
this person can sing
but kind of can't play."
530
00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:54,977
Uh, guy's number one rule of camp is
531
00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:57,763
inmates don't run the asylum, right?
532
00:27:57,937 --> 00:28:00,896
So you guys, when you take your
fans, you take control of them,
533
00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:03,290
and in the end, they will thank us.
534
00:28:03,464 --> 00:28:06,293
- And, right, Teddy?
- Absolutely.
535
00:28:06,467 --> 00:28:08,121
You make it work.
536
00:28:08,295 --> 00:28:11,167
You know, like, there's no...
There's no I in band.
537
00:28:19,393 --> 00:28:21,003
Some of this goes way back.
538
00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:25,791
First concert ever is up here somewhere.
539
00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:29,751
Iron Maiden, March 9th. 1985.
540
00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:33,233
This is a memory
that I will never forget.
541
00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:36,715
I would have been 13 or 12 at the time.
542
00:28:36,889 --> 00:28:39,630
I remember my parents
who are just... they're very
543
00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:41,874
straight-laced and
very conservative parents,
544
00:28:41,894 --> 00:28:43,765
wonderful parents, by the way.
545
00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:46,226
But they really didn't want me
to go to heavy metal concerts.
546
00:28:46,246 --> 00:28:49,249
They made sure that one of my
friends' parents went with us.
547
00:28:49,858 --> 00:28:51,573
So we go to this Iron Maiden concert
548
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,645
and, uh, I remember, you know,
kind of like rocking out.
549
00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:57,257
But then I remember
looking back and seeing,
550
00:28:57,692 --> 00:29:01,609
you know, my friend's mom
is just like taking a joint
551
00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:03,393
from one of the other people
552
00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:05,593
who is in the audience
and is like smoking out.
553
00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:08,964
And I'm just like, really?
This is... this is our chaperone?
554
00:29:09,138 --> 00:29:11,010
Uh, so mom, that's true story.
555
00:29:12,054 --> 00:29:13,752
The coolest is this poster here,
556
00:29:13,926 --> 00:29:16,319
which is me on stage with Judas Priest.
557
00:29:16,493 --> 00:29:19,583
This is modelled after
a poster that was in my room
558
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:21,949
back in the day,
and I had to fight really hard
559
00:29:22,064 --> 00:29:24,398
to be able to put
heavy metal posters on my walls.
560
00:29:24,893 --> 00:29:26,939
Judas Priest finally made it up there.
561
00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:39,212
It's a total dream of mine come true.
562
00:29:40,474 --> 00:29:42,389
But my mom's in the crowd,
563
00:29:42,563 --> 00:29:44,913
like, watching, cheering, so excited,
564
00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:47,945
and just to see that moment and
think, wow, how life changes.
565
00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:03,279
My son comes home from school,
566
00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:05,131
and the first thing he wants to do is,
567
00:30:05,151 --> 00:30:06,654
"Okay, Dad, I really wanna get a snack,
568
00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,284
but let's jam that song first."
569
00:30:10,765 --> 00:30:12,985
I'll stop anything I'm doing.
570
00:30:15,509 --> 00:30:17,467
This is a shy kid.
571
00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,034
He's only 14.
572
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,690
Boy!
573
00:30:24,431 --> 00:30:26,737
You know, this metal mad man inside
574
00:30:27,477 --> 00:30:28,827
is just a beautiful thing.
575
00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:34,566
That's the neat thing about fantasy camp.
576
00:30:35,964 --> 00:30:38,575
He got so good, so fast
with such little input.
577
00:30:42,057 --> 00:30:44,581
When you play with someone
who's great at something,
578
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:48,107
like, they are unconsciously
excellent at it.
579
00:30:48,934 --> 00:30:51,327
It is a different experience.
580
00:30:51,501 --> 00:30:53,373
Try yourself.
581
00:30:54,765 --> 00:30:56,855
It's a very special thing.
582
00:30:58,291 --> 00:31:00,053
I know it sounds a little cheesy that
583
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:01,796
like, "Oh, it's just
a rock and roll thing,"
584
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:03,818
but man, for me and for him, it's real.
585
00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:13,219
- Yeah.
- All right. Rock and roll.
586
00:31:13,393 --> 00:31:15,569
It took me back to our first starting...
587
00:31:15,743 --> 00:31:16,962
In the early band's...
588
00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:19,355
I'm talking way, way, way back.
589
00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:22,271
It's music in his most
honest, uh, format.
590
00:31:22,445 --> 00:31:23,826
It's a... It's a weird thing.
591
00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:25,731
I'm getting chills thinking about it.
592
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,953
That feeling you get when
something clicks in the room,
593
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:30,540
that sort of magic,
that's why we all do it.
594
00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:32,891
This is the man!
595
00:31:33,065 --> 00:31:35,328
- Rock and Roll!
- Oh, I think I did...
596
00:31:35,502 --> 00:31:37,243
Does Gene Simmons...
597
00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:39,898
Fishof is a really, uh,
interesting character.
598
00:31:40,072 --> 00:31:42,117
He could be a character
in a recurring role
599
00:31:42,204 --> 00:31:43,989
in The Goldbergs.
600
00:31:44,163 --> 00:31:46,306
He's... He's just crazy.
He's out of his mind.
601
00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:48,645
You know?
And I love that about him.
602
00:31:48,819 --> 00:31:51,387
David, I thought,
should be in a mental hospital
603
00:31:51,561 --> 00:31:52,954
at some point, you know?
604
00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:56,044
Or he has escaped from a mental hospital.
605
00:31:56,218 --> 00:31:57,828
But I called up Roger and I said,
606
00:31:58,003 --> 00:31:59,961
"Who would you like to jam with?
607
00:32:00,135 --> 00:32:02,746
If you had an opportunity
to meet your hero?
608
00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:04,661
Who would you want to jam with?"
609
00:32:04,835 --> 00:32:06,533
He says,
"Levon Helm of The Band."
610
00:32:06,707 --> 00:32:08,515
He said, "I've always wanted
to meet Levon Helm.
611
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:10,604
If you introduce me Levon Helm,
I'll do your camp."
612
00:32:10,624 --> 00:32:13,975
And we had formed a bond
because of the Ringo tour.
613
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:15,769
So when I asked him for something,
614
00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:17,654
he said, "Of course,
I'll do it." And he came.
615
00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:19,328
Wow!
616
00:32:32,211 --> 00:32:33,473
What's happening?
617
00:32:35,649 --> 00:32:38,043
After he got to meet
Levon Helm the next day,
618
00:32:38,217 --> 00:32:39,676
he said, "Where
are these bands playing?"
619
00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:41,220
I said, "Well, tomorrow night,
620
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:42,679
they're playing
at The Bottom Line."
621
00:32:42,699 --> 00:32:44,571
Roger Daltrey!
622
00:32:46,094 --> 00:32:48,314
Okay, let me tune to this.
623
00:32:48,488 --> 00:32:50,403
But where's your singer?
624
00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:54,146
- You're standing right there.
- You're standing right there.
625
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,104
Let me tell you, these guys, uh,
626
00:32:56,278 --> 00:32:58,739
I'll be down at the rehearsal
and watched all the bands,
627
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,675
and, uh, it's just great to see people
628
00:33:01,849 --> 00:33:04,678
gaining a lot of knowledge
about our business
629
00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:07,594
that has been incredible
to me in my life.
630
00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:09,639
And let's just hope that, uh,
631
00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:11,902
in some small way, it can be incredible
632
00:33:12,077 --> 00:33:14,557
to you for a weekend.
Off you go, guys.
633
00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:16,583
Once Roger started
doing it, all of a sudden
634
00:33:16,603 --> 00:33:18,387
it opened up the door
635
00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,521
and Roger said, "I can
introduce you to Brian Wilson."
636
00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:26,047
Roger would always
call me before every camp,
637
00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:28,290
even though he wasn't
going to be at the camp.
638
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:29,834
And he was always concerned that
639
00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:31,639
the rock star was having a good time,
640
00:33:31,748 --> 00:33:33,707
will Brian Wilson like it?
641
00:33:34,229 --> 00:33:37,319
And the fact that he was
showing interest meant that,
642
00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,303
you know, that there's something here.
643
00:33:39,365 --> 00:33:42,629
It's kind of like
on Barnum and Bailey's side.
644
00:33:42,803 --> 00:33:44,848
Uh, and... and because it is a circus
645
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,048
which Jagger recognized
all those years ago.
646
00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:51,333
In '69, rock and roll is a
circus, David recognized that.
647
00:33:51,507 --> 00:33:53,272
And he started to just come up with ideas
648
00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:55,207
that keep the spirit of it alive.
649
00:33:55,381 --> 00:33:57,600
And we got to give him applause for it.
650
00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:01,300
♪ Man, I can't explain ♪
651
00:34:24,888 --> 00:34:27,935
- There Mr. Fishof.
- Come on, bring them here.
652
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:30,894
What do we got here?
Rock stars?
653
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:32,940
You know Paul Stanley is not coming.
654
00:34:33,288 --> 00:34:35,421
Uh, goodbye. No.
655
00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:38,186
No, we got... we... we... we got...
We got Gene Simmons'...
656
00:34:38,206 --> 00:34:40,165
David, I came to see you.
657
00:34:40,339 --> 00:34:42,408
- That's an honest guys.
- It's the only reason I'm here.
658
00:34:42,428 --> 00:34:44,062
- You excited?
- Awesome. I'm very excited.
659
00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:45,628
I'm always excited.
It's great to see you.
660
00:34:45,648 --> 00:34:47,215
It's gonna be great.
661
00:34:49,261 --> 00:34:50,938
- Good to see you.
- Good to see you.
662
00:34:50,958 --> 00:34:52,592
It's gonna be exiting.
Glad you came.
663
00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:54,918
Hello, David Fishof.
664
00:35:00,533 --> 00:35:02,100
As soon as you walk in the door,
665
00:35:02,274 --> 00:35:03,797
you get your welcome back.
666
00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:05,822
You get into a room
with a group of people
667
00:35:05,842 --> 00:35:08,173
who feel exactly like you do,
and you all know you do,
668
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,088
and that just breaks the ice right away.
669
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,177
And then, you know, maybe
Bruce Kulick will walk through
670
00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:14,329
the hallway or something and you'll say,
671
00:35:14,503 --> 00:35:16,026
"Hey, what's up, dude?"
672
00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,139
And you all look
at each other and be pinching...
673
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,967
You know, and you share that experience
674
00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,163
so quickly with the group
that you're with.
675
00:35:22,337 --> 00:35:24,493
You see, everybody gets excited
about coming to camp early.
676
00:35:24,513 --> 00:35:25,929
You guys say hello of Steven Adler?
677
00:35:25,949 --> 00:35:27,386
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
678
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,431
So you all know
Mr. David Fishof.
679
00:35:29,605 --> 00:35:32,173
This guy is the creator of Fantasy Camp,
680
00:35:32,347 --> 00:35:34,349
which is one of the coolest things.
681
00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:37,376
One guitar player was shredding
like a mother and I'm thinking,
682
00:35:37,396 --> 00:35:39,441
"What are you?"
He goes, "I'm a doctor."
683
00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:41,008
I'm going, Wow.
684
00:35:41,704 --> 00:35:43,817
You have, uh, some kids
who come here, you know,
685
00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:45,361
their parents buy them the camp.
686
00:35:45,491 --> 00:35:46,950
They're, you know, lawyers and doctors
687
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:48,494
and business people like myself.
688
00:35:48,668 --> 00:35:50,432
Some people, they saved up for this camp.
689
00:35:50,452 --> 00:35:52,217
This is a once in a lifetime experience.
690
00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:54,326
I am a Director of Compliance
691
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,806
for a Medicare health plan
back in Portland.
692
00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:58,980
I was a partner in a copy
machine business,
693
00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:01,022
I'm a chiropractor now
of almost 20 years.
694
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,117
Just finished my 30th year
695
00:36:03,291 --> 00:36:05,859
teaching junior high
and high school choral music.
696
00:36:06,033 --> 00:36:08,494
I was an executive, pretty
senior executive at Motorola.
697
00:36:08,514 --> 00:36:10,168
I've been married almost 20 years.
698
00:36:10,342 --> 00:36:11,952
We've got, uh, four kids.
699
00:36:12,126 --> 00:36:13,780
I work for the railroad.
700
00:36:13,954 --> 00:36:15,608
I'm a conductor.
701
00:36:15,782 --> 00:36:18,785
So I haven't been on a regular vacation
702
00:36:18,959 --> 00:36:21,657
since we always come here.
703
00:36:21,831 --> 00:36:23,746
Yeah.
704
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,401
People often would say,
"Tell me about yourself."
705
00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:30,884
I tell them, "What I do is
I'm an executive at Motorola.
706
00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:33,887
I am a rock guitarist."
707
00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:40,720
Hello, everybody.
708
00:36:40,894 --> 00:36:44,332
Welcome to Alcoholics Anonymous.
709
00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:46,314
I mean, oh, I'm sorry,
this Rock Fantasy Camp.
710
00:36:46,334 --> 00:36:48,380
- You guys having fun so far?
- Yeah!
711
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,469
Please welcome...
712
00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:53,497
Gene Simmons.
713
00:36:59,826 --> 00:37:02,588
Hey. Wow, everybody, welcome
to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
714
00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:04,874
This is our 23rd year.
715
00:37:05,048 --> 00:37:06,615
23 years.
716
00:37:08,791 --> 00:37:11,458
And if you see a group of stars
over in... Walking around
717
00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:13,123
and you have a question about bass,
718
00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:14,841
ask Rudy, ask... If you...
719
00:37:15,015 --> 00:37:17,432
If... if you want to ask
a question about sex, ask Vinny.
720
00:37:17,452 --> 00:37:20,020
Okay?
721
00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:22,065
Okay.
722
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,155
Go to your rooms. We're gonna
start jamming right away.
723
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:27,680
Good luck, everybody.
God bless you.
724
00:37:27,854 --> 00:37:31,205
Here's opening day at Rock Camp.
Are you ready to rock?
725
00:37:31,858 --> 00:37:33,338
Your mission at camp.
726
00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:35,644
Number one, you got to prepare two sets.
727
00:37:35,818 --> 00:37:37,626
I don't care if you do identical sets.
728
00:37:37,646 --> 00:37:39,387
It's about helping each other,
729
00:37:39,561 --> 00:37:42,999
coming together as a unit
to be the best band possible.
730
00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,698
And... And the best band here...
731
00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:48,918
The best band wins absolutely nothing.
732
00:37:49,092 --> 00:37:50,292
Nothing, nothing.
733
00:37:50,398 --> 00:37:52,182
I can do that. I can do that.
734
00:37:52,357 --> 00:37:54,663
- Yeah.
- I tell you where he is.
735
00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:57,623
So it's always a distressing
moment when I meet my band,
736
00:37:57,797 --> 00:38:00,278
my camp band for the first time.
737
00:38:08,111 --> 00:38:10,853
- Wow, you guys sound great.
- Thanks.
738
00:38:11,027 --> 00:38:12,290
- I'm Tony.
- Hi, Quinn.
739
00:38:12,464 --> 00:38:13,664
Quinn? Hey, Quinn.
740
00:38:13,813 --> 00:38:15,013
Nice to meet you.
741
00:38:15,162 --> 00:38:16,381
You must be Blake then.
742
00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:17,817
- Yes.
- Okay.
743
00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:19,862
- You must be Tony.
- I am Tony.
744
00:38:20,036 --> 00:38:21,322
At least the last time I checked.
745
00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,126
Uh.
746
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,111
Well, it's nice that you guys know it,
747
00:38:25,259 --> 00:38:28,088
wow, I'm quite impressed and
a little intimidated actually.
748
00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,116
Oh, you know what
I forgot to tell everybody?
749
00:38:33,136 --> 00:38:34,814
To come up with the name of the band.
750
00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,381
Let's see, I had the Daughters of Danger.
751
00:38:36,401 --> 00:38:38,272
Oh, big fan of the Horse Chestnuts.
752
00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:40,970
Stack of Yokels
is my favourite band name.
753
00:38:41,144 --> 00:38:43,582
- On the top three.
- One, two, three.
754
00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:45,453
Motley Jue.
755
00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:49,544
Oy.
756
00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,851
- Vey.
- Yeah.
757
00:38:52,025 --> 00:38:57,683
Ladies and gentlemen,
Jurassic Waist Band.
758
00:38:59,032 --> 00:39:00,796
- What was the name you picked?
- Which one?
759
00:39:00,816 --> 00:39:02,775
- The F one.
- Fustagates.
760
00:39:02,949 --> 00:39:04,559
Fustagate.
761
00:39:04,733 --> 00:39:06,822
- What?
- I told you how would...
762
00:39:06,996 --> 00:39:08,804
None of us know what the hell it means.
763
00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:10,545
- Oh, the name?
- You hear Fustagate, you go...
764
00:39:10,565 --> 00:39:12,393
- What's that word?
- Fustagate.
765
00:39:12,567 --> 00:39:14,897
- Yeah, I've never heard.
- It means to beat with a club.
766
00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:16,876
- Oh, nice.
- How about Menopause?
767
00:39:17,050 --> 00:39:18,771
Can we just throw
that out there? Menopause?
768
00:39:18,791 --> 00:39:21,489
Men 'O' Pause.
769
00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:23,330
See? That was my name.
There you go.
770
00:39:23,491 --> 00:39:25,255
- And you're for it?
- I think it's funny.
771
00:39:25,275 --> 00:39:26,996
- I think it's great.
- You're all right with that?
772
00:39:27,016 --> 00:39:28,650
I'm okay with that.
I think it's funny.
773
00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,977
Okay, the name of the band is...
774
00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:34,268
We gotta come up with
a new band name that's like,
775
00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:38,114
you know, naming your son again.
You know what I mean? It's...
776
00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:41,422
But that... that STP sticker
was a really cool
777
00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:44,294
logo that we had on a bicycle
seats or on a skateboard,
778
00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:48,386
so we're thinking like,
Stinky Toilet Paper.
779
00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:50,823
Sherley Towels.
780
00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:54,619
What are we going to come up with?
781
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,550
And, you know, the Stone Temple Pilots
782
00:39:56,611 --> 00:39:58,278
seemed to be the most accurate one.
783
00:40:04,706 --> 00:40:06,471
Yeah, no one told me
metal guys was silly.
784
00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:08,231
I love it, though, may I say?
785
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,645
I'm glad you're taking
the positive out of that.
786
00:40:13,149 --> 00:40:15,021
All right. "Mississippi Queen."
787
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:37,634
Hey, Pistol.
788
00:40:37,739 --> 00:40:39,132
What's going on?
789
00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:40,896
- Good to see you.
- Good to see you, man.
790
00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:42,536
- Thanks for coming.
- My pleasure.
791
00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:45,094
So Super Kick Ten, let's...
792
00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:47,357
- Uh, what sizes?
- 14.
793
00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:50,752
Lenny Kravitz and I,
we... we hooked up by accident
794
00:40:50,926 --> 00:40:53,039
when we were in high school,
we played together
795
00:40:53,059 --> 00:40:55,453
for about three or four years.
796
00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:59,631
Actually, I was supposed to be
on the Let Love Rule album,
797
00:40:59,805 --> 00:41:02,938
but I decided to take a gig
in Edinburgh, Scotland.
798
00:41:05,811 --> 00:41:09,292
And by the time I came back,
the album was all done by Lenny.
799
00:41:11,294 --> 00:41:13,209
You know?
So I missed that boat.
800
00:41:18,606 --> 00:41:21,000
-I like it
-Well, awesome.
801
00:41:21,174 --> 00:41:22,698
I'll take everything.
Wrap it up.
802
00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:25,091
Thanks buddy.
Always good seeing you.
803
00:41:25,395 --> 00:41:26,681
All right, ladies, let's go.
804
00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:28,616
I wanna show you something.
805
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:31,410
Alright. Fall in... Fall in line.
Come on, fall in line.
806
00:41:32,794 --> 00:41:35,754
I want to show you guys
how it all begin with me
807
00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:37,712
in terms of learning to play drums.
808
00:41:37,886 --> 00:41:40,715
My very first, uh, teacher
was Willie T. Brooks.
809
00:41:40,889 --> 00:41:44,066
I owe everything to him.
He was the beginning of it all.
810
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,896
Then I met Albert "Tootie" Heath
of the Heath Brothers.
811
00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:50,159
I walk up to this fence and I look over
812
00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:52,381
and I see this drummer playing,
and he says,
813
00:41:52,553 --> 00:41:55,101
"Who the hell is that on my
fence? Get your ass off of it."
814
00:41:55,121 --> 00:41:56,788
I'm like, "Oh!"
He scared me, right?
815
00:41:56,949 --> 00:41:58,496
And he says, "Just kidding."
Said, "Come on in."
816
00:41:58,516 --> 00:41:59,995
And it was Tootie.
817
00:42:00,169 --> 00:42:01,934
And he was actually
rehearsing with a singer
818
00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:04,097
named Nancy Wilson,
who's a great jazz singer.
819
00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:07,035
So from that point forward, he
became instrumental in my life.
820
00:42:07,873 --> 00:42:10,789
And he doesn't call me anything
but Pistol, Pistol, Pistol.
821
00:42:10,963 --> 00:42:12,399
That's it. Pistol's the name.
822
00:42:12,573 --> 00:42:14,270
And this is, uh, Teena Marie.
823
00:42:14,444 --> 00:42:16,426
And these are some guys
that I played with.
824
00:42:16,446 --> 00:42:18,710
And oddly enough, in this picture
825
00:42:18,884 --> 00:42:21,147
should have been Lenny Kravitz.
826
00:42:21,321 --> 00:42:22,911
And I think Lenny
was standing to the side.
827
00:42:22,931 --> 00:42:24,629
As a matter of fact, he called me.
828
00:42:24,803 --> 00:42:26,872
I went down to Santa Monica,
listened to the tracks,
829
00:42:26,892 --> 00:42:28,874
and I'm like, "Yeah, sounds
alright. Yeah, whatever, Lenny."
830
00:42:28,894 --> 00:42:30,460
He invited me to the concert.
831
00:42:30,635 --> 00:42:32,854
We went and I just watched
my career disappear.
832
00:42:33,028 --> 00:42:34,228
No, I'm kidding.
833
00:42:36,728 --> 00:42:38,381
No, I'm kidding.
834
00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:41,428
I mean, it's...
It is what it is, you know?
835
00:42:46,607 --> 00:42:47,913
All right. I got an idea.
836
00:42:49,784 --> 00:42:52,023
I'm going to do this.
I'm going this and then...
837
00:42:52,091 --> 00:42:53,949
- Just give me a bonk, you know?
- Okay.
838
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:55,857
Okay, now here's what we do at the bonk.
839
00:42:55,877 --> 00:42:57,729
- All right.
- We're going to had conversation
840
00:42:57,749 --> 00:42:59,511
where I'm gonna say something, I'm...
841
00:43:02,057 --> 00:43:03,450
And then...
842
00:43:03,624 --> 00:43:05,482
And then you're going to say something.
843
00:43:09,325 --> 00:43:11,421
Then you're going to say
a little word there.
844
00:43:11,458 --> 00:43:13,678
When these guys get together
845
00:43:13,852 --> 00:43:15,854
in the room on the very first day,
846
00:43:17,899 --> 00:43:20,075
it starts off under
this false premise that
847
00:43:20,249 --> 00:43:21,579
five people who don't know each other
848
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,078
come together to make a band.
849
00:43:23,252 --> 00:43:24,886
And you think,
"How can that possibly work?"
850
00:43:24,906 --> 00:43:26,429
But it does work very quickly
851
00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:28,411
because they're all there
for that purpose
852
00:43:28,431 --> 00:43:31,130
and they're all focused
on creating something.
853
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,001
I don't tell these rockers what to do,
854
00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:54,893
I... I've learned my lesson,
855
00:43:55,067 --> 00:43:58,113
you know, they are smarter than
I am when it comes to music.
856
00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:00,246
And I might be able to make deals
857
00:44:00,420 --> 00:44:02,054
and put them in a room
together with people,
858
00:44:02,074 --> 00:44:04,170
but when it comes to
telling them what to do,
859
00:44:04,337 --> 00:44:06,861
I let every rock star
do what they want to do
860
00:44:07,035 --> 00:44:08,950
best that Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
861
00:44:09,124 --> 00:44:11,779
So if they feel that they
want to do a masterclass
862
00:44:11,953 --> 00:44:15,087
or if they feel they want
to teach them to write a song,
863
00:44:15,261 --> 00:44:18,090
they get very involved in these
people and they respect them
864
00:44:18,264 --> 00:44:19,836
because they're fellow musicians.
865
00:44:20,005 --> 00:44:23,486
So yes, the work is hard,
but it's good-hard.
866
00:44:29,057 --> 00:44:31,016
- Yeah.
- These campers come in next.
867
00:44:33,148 --> 00:44:35,063
Oh, wow, organic popcorn.
868
00:44:38,197 --> 00:44:40,005
- I'm gonna lose my voice.
- We're doing
869
00:44:40,025 --> 00:44:42,050
And do you know what
we spent all morning doing?
870
00:44:42,070 --> 00:44:43,463
Oh.
871
00:44:43,637 --> 00:44:45,508
What's your band?
872
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,206
Men 'O' Pause.
873
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:50,339
Men 'O' Pause. Amazing.
874
00:44:50,513 --> 00:44:52,733
I like that.
I love hosting events.
875
00:44:52,907 --> 00:44:55,605
You should have done
Men'O'Pause and the Hot Flashes.
876
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:57,370
I... I tried to throw Hot Flash in there
877
00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:58,980
but they said,
"No, it's too much."
878
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,460
- That was too much?
- Too much.
879
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,786
They said it's too much.
880
00:45:04,353 --> 00:45:05,703
I need to go from?
881
00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:07,510
- I missed the whole line. Sorry.
- Yeah.
882
00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:09,271
I think the singing part is harder.
883
00:45:09,445 --> 00:45:11,079
That's about
when you're down to singing...
884
00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:12,710
Drumming, oh my God,
885
00:45:12,884 --> 00:45:15,040
if you missed a beat
or if you didn't hit the cymbal,
886
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:16,918
you could do that and get away with it.
887
00:45:18,019 --> 00:45:19,972
Now, singing,
you got to know those words.
888
00:45:20,021 --> 00:45:21,631
People know these songs.
889
00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:24,069
They expect the lyrics to be right.
890
00:45:24,243 --> 00:45:26,811
You know, it's hard to kind
of fake that part.
891
00:45:30,249 --> 00:45:31,946
Oh, yeah.
892
00:45:36,255 --> 00:45:37,976
I mean, it's not easy doing these camps.
893
00:45:37,996 --> 00:45:40,346
I got to figure out, um,
we need one more amp.
894
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,479
It can be extremely frustrating,
and extremely hard work.
895
00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:46,134
With these, uh, musicians,
they vary in qualities.
896
00:45:46,308 --> 00:45:48,136
Some are very good
897
00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:50,597
but equally they might apply
with something not that good.
898
00:45:50,617 --> 00:45:53,925
There were some train wrecks.
899
00:45:54,099 --> 00:45:56,928
Some of them were caused by me.
900
00:45:57,102 --> 00:46:00,888
We were about to play
"Sweet Child of Mine."
901
00:46:03,064 --> 00:46:05,458
And Slash made a mistake.
902
00:46:07,503 --> 00:46:08,853
We still make mistakes.
903
00:46:09,027 --> 00:46:10,376
Yeah, it's like, you know?
904
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:12,053
- In front of 80,000 people.
- Yeah.
905
00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:13,707
You know, but that's Rock and Roll.
906
00:46:13,727 --> 00:46:15,394
You know, Robert Plant and the Who,
907
00:46:15,424 --> 00:46:17,426
you know, Peter Townshend,
908
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,757
when I was growing up, I looked
at those guys thinking, man,
909
00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:21,236
they got it together, you know, boy,
910
00:46:21,256 --> 00:46:23,018
I wish I had that kind of confidence.
911
00:46:24,825 --> 00:46:26,914
They... They weren't confident.
912
00:46:27,088 --> 00:46:28,829
Plant'd stand around, you know,
913
00:46:29,003 --> 00:46:31,507
doing things, he didn't know
what to do with his hands.
914
00:46:31,527 --> 00:46:34,008
Daltrey swinging the mic stand
and waiting for Pete
915
00:46:34,182 --> 00:46:35,947
to make the next move
because their jamming,
916
00:46:35,967 --> 00:46:37,577
he don't know what to do.
917
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,102
Folks, we don't have it together
any better than you.
918
00:46:41,276 --> 00:46:43,452
We just learnt how to get out and do it.
919
00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:48,481
You're bringing that
audience home with you.
920
00:46:48,501 --> 00:46:49,882
You're taking them on a ride.
921
00:46:50,024 --> 00:46:51,504
That's a lot of responsibility
922
00:46:51,678 --> 00:46:53,245
One, two, three, four.
923
00:46:54,376 --> 00:46:55,943
Right?
924
00:46:58,424 --> 00:47:00,449
I mean, you can't explain
it unless you do it
925
00:47:00,469 --> 00:47:02,147
because it's just one of those things,
926
00:47:02,167 --> 00:47:04,647
it's like being a mom.
927
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,013
I mean, it's kind
of the same thing at... in...
928
00:47:07,172 --> 00:47:08,601
In Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
929
00:47:08,738 --> 00:47:10,653
It's... It's really difficult to explain
930
00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:13,114
unless you've actually done it
and gone through it
931
00:47:13,134 --> 00:47:15,441
and see how life changing it is.
932
00:47:20,446 --> 00:47:21,926
- It's okay.
- Oh, my God.
933
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,300
It's a lot of salad.
934
00:47:23,449 --> 00:47:25,233
You making that much salad?
935
00:47:27,192 --> 00:47:30,717
Wife, mom, boss.
That's sort of my mantra.
936
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,807
As much as I love my job,
I don't think it defines me.
937
00:47:33,981 --> 00:47:36,375
I love playing jobs.
It doesn't define me.
938
00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:37,965
It's just another facet of me.
939
00:47:37,985 --> 00:47:39,726
I love my family, doesn't define me.
940
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:41,969
Anyway, you don't want...
Do you want wine, baby?
941
00:47:41,989 --> 00:47:43,208
No, right? All right.
942
00:47:43,382 --> 00:47:44,859
You're not giving her any wine.
943
00:47:44,992 --> 00:47:46,539
No, she gets the... There water for her.
944
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:47,995
Give her some water.
945
00:47:53,392 --> 00:47:54,654
Everybody!
946
00:47:54,741 --> 00:47:58,614
Please welcome Kiss!
947
00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:05,273
We have the Kiss, you know,
the Kiss Condoms.
948
00:48:07,972 --> 00:48:10,322
When you're cold,
you got to have the Kiss Cozy.
949
00:48:14,065 --> 00:48:16,981
This piece is a paper mache Gene Simmons
950
00:48:17,155 --> 00:48:19,592
that my daughter made
when she was really little.
951
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,838
It wouldn't be Kiss without
the Kiss Gene Simmons,
952
00:48:24,858 --> 00:48:26,251
hooking up panties.
953
00:48:31,517 --> 00:48:33,368
Kiss was great about making media events,
954
00:48:33,388 --> 00:48:35,173
about everything we did.
955
00:48:35,347 --> 00:48:38,306
Did you know that some
of our stores are actually open
956
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,873
all night?
957
00:48:40,047 --> 00:48:41,571
I mean, I've been following them
958
00:48:41,657 --> 00:48:43,181
since I was a kid.
959
00:48:43,355 --> 00:48:44,791
Yeah!
960
00:48:46,314 --> 00:48:49,100
If anybody told me I could
totally live the rock star life,
961
00:48:49,274 --> 00:48:52,886
uh, I would have to really,
really carefully consider that.
962
00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:55,149
There is a price to pay.
963
00:48:57,238 --> 00:48:59,191
If that meant,
no, I didn't spend any time
964
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,330
with my family and my husband
was miserable at home alone,
965
00:49:02,504 --> 00:49:05,725
and my doggie missed me, yeah, nuh-uh.
966
00:49:05,899 --> 00:49:08,336
- Hey, buddy, there you go.
- Really get the bottom.
967
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:10,904
- Nice.
- Oh, my God. It's so bad.
968
00:49:11,078 --> 00:49:12,581
I can't eat that.
It's not even edible.
969
00:49:12,601 --> 00:49:14,647
You believe that crap?
970
00:49:15,343 --> 00:49:16,692
Don't do drugs.
971
00:49:20,435 --> 00:49:23,003
So I'm being selfish, this camp.
972
00:49:24,222 --> 00:49:26,093
As much as I love drumming,
973
00:49:26,267 --> 00:49:28,661
I wanted to be on stage
with Paul Stanley dancing.
974
00:49:28,835 --> 00:49:30,489
- Welcome back.
- Hey. How are you?
975
00:49:30,663 --> 00:49:32,283
Good. How are you?
Nice to see you.
976
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,837
The drummer gets the, you know,
977
00:49:33,883 --> 00:49:35,503
the little punch of the high five.
978
00:49:35,668 --> 00:49:37,476
They come over, they do the little shake
979
00:49:37,496 --> 00:49:39,020
and then they walk off the side,
980
00:49:39,150 --> 00:49:40,827
and then that's it,
that's the love you get.
981
00:49:40,847 --> 00:49:43,110
So could we sign on memorabilia first?
982
00:49:43,284 --> 00:49:45,678
So I'm gonna suck it up,
I'm gonna attack the fear,
983
00:49:45,852 --> 00:49:47,486
and I'm going to do this
with Paul Stanley,
984
00:49:47,506 --> 00:49:49,247
and I'm going to sing.
985
00:49:49,421 --> 00:49:51,249
That's what I want.
986
00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:54,058
This is like a once
in a lifetime opportunity
987
00:49:54,078 --> 00:49:55,383
for me to do this.
988
00:49:55,557 --> 00:49:57,104
And I'm hoping I can pull it off.
989
00:49:57,124 --> 00:49:59,257
So this is really scary.
990
00:49:59,431 --> 00:50:00,823
Yeah.
991
00:50:00,998 --> 00:50:03,000
Right now, you can go, you're ready.
992
00:50:03,174 --> 00:50:04,651
Have a little surprise for you.
993
00:50:04,697 --> 00:50:06,481
What are you doing here?
994
00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:08,527
Did you pay to come to camp this week?
995
00:50:08,701 --> 00:50:11,205
I was going to say to you
how do you get in the business.
996
00:50:11,225 --> 00:50:13,140
You open the door.
997
00:50:13,314 --> 00:50:15,577
If we were just wearing
jeans and... and Pumas,
998
00:50:15,751 --> 00:50:17,927
we could play into our eighties.
999
00:50:18,102 --> 00:50:20,722
But when you're carrying
around 30 or 40 pounds of gear,
1000
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,323
and you're running around
1001
00:50:22,497 --> 00:50:24,262
and you want to make sure
that your stomach is
1002
00:50:24,282 --> 00:50:25,663
not hanging over your tights.
1003
00:50:27,937 --> 00:50:30,311
You think we could possibly see
any of your past members get up
1004
00:50:30,331 --> 00:50:32,284
to jam with you guys for a song on stage?
1005
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,054
- Anything's possible.
- Yeah. I love to see, like,
1006
00:50:34,074 --> 00:50:36,217
Bruce Kulick get up
and do something with you.
1007
00:50:36,337 --> 00:50:37,556
- So would he.
- Yeah?
1008
00:50:42,604 --> 00:50:43,910
Music is magical.
1009
00:50:44,084 --> 00:50:46,608
I think all the arts are magical.
1010
00:50:46,782 --> 00:50:50,569
Just got to chill
because music is indelibly
1011
00:50:50,743 --> 00:50:52,484
a part of who I am.
1012
00:50:52,658 --> 00:50:55,008
But when you're younger
and you don't have kids
1013
00:50:55,182 --> 00:50:57,706
and you don't have family,
your band or your music,
1014
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,318
or whatever you pursue is your life.
1015
00:51:00,492 --> 00:51:03,843
The beauty about having
children hopefully
1016
00:51:04,017 --> 00:51:07,194
with the... the right spirit,
quite honestly, it's...
1017
00:51:07,368 --> 00:51:12,025
It's part of why we're here
on... on Earth, I think,
1018
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,550
is to produce children
who are better than us,
1019
00:51:15,724 --> 00:51:18,945
go further than us, and make
the world better than we do.
1020
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:20,555
Thank you.
1021
00:51:30,522 --> 00:51:32,567
- 250.
- 250 or 200?
1022
00:51:32,741 --> 00:51:35,222
- 200, 250.
- Oh, yeah.
1023
00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:39,052
Blake, he's a pretty
important part of my life.
1024
00:51:39,226 --> 00:51:41,359
I connected with him pretty early on.
1025
00:51:41,533 --> 00:51:44,013
I've been teaching him
for about four years.
1026
00:51:48,148 --> 00:51:49,999
Like they say, like,
a kid in a candy store.
1027
00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:52,162
- But there are kids, I guess.
- Yeah, well...
1028
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:57,831
The question isn't what Blake can do.
1029
00:51:57,984 --> 00:52:00,813
The question is what Blake
can't do and there's not much.
1030
00:52:01,335 --> 00:52:04,251
He can play anything I throw at him.
1031
00:52:04,425 --> 00:52:06,187
And if his technique isn't up to par,
1032
00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:08,531
he will work on it
'til he absolutely nails it.
1033
00:52:08,647 --> 00:52:10,257
One, two, ready, go.
1034
00:52:14,566 --> 00:52:17,003
Blake struggles with
saying what's on his mind.
1035
00:52:18,613 --> 00:52:21,312
But he'll play and he'll play.
1036
00:52:21,486 --> 00:52:24,010
And play and play.
And you can kind of tell
1037
00:52:24,184 --> 00:52:26,317
what mood he's in by how he plays.
1038
00:52:26,491 --> 00:52:28,362
- Good job, buddy.
- Thank you.
1039
00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:33,367
It's about catching that spark.
1040
00:52:33,541 --> 00:52:36,631
Ideas come usually at
the most inconvenient times.
1041
00:52:36,805 --> 00:52:39,591
Driving along in the car,
I had to pull over
1042
00:52:39,765 --> 00:52:42,071
and get my book out
and write something down,
1043
00:52:42,246 --> 00:52:44,291
or I have to cut the shower short,
1044
00:52:44,465 --> 00:52:46,608
or I'm in the middle
of going to the bathroom,
1045
00:52:46,685 --> 00:52:48,077
it's like, "No, no."
1046
00:52:48,252 --> 00:52:49,905
Here it is, right here.
1047
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,951
My notes.
1048
00:52:52,995 --> 00:52:56,434
There might be the next "Ain't
Got No Satisfaction" in there.
1049
00:52:56,608 --> 00:52:58,132
Probably not but you never know.
1050
00:53:04,529 --> 00:53:06,444
It's more like a cow, though.
1051
00:53:06,618 --> 00:53:09,142
There's a song by The Temptations
1052
00:53:09,838 --> 00:53:11,410
called
"Papa Was A Rolling Stone."
1053
00:53:11,492 --> 00:53:13,581
It's a six and a half minute song.
1054
00:53:18,543 --> 00:53:20,414
- Whoa.
- Yeah.
1055
00:53:20,588 --> 00:53:22,024
To be a bass player,
1056
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,006
you have to get your ego out of the way.
1057
00:53:24,026 --> 00:53:25,767
That's it.
1058
00:53:26,986 --> 00:53:28,901
I almost lost my first professional gig
1059
00:53:29,075 --> 00:53:31,556
because of overplaying.
1060
00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:33,581
The band-leader said
if you don't pull it back
1061
00:53:33,601 --> 00:53:35,995
and simplify, I may have to let you go.
1062
00:53:36,169 --> 00:53:38,389
You know, imagine if
Gollum played the bass.
1063
00:53:38,867 --> 00:53:41,653
Play more notes, it's boring.
1064
00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:46,005
Now, now, the master's the song.
1065
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:52,054
It's boring.
1066
00:53:55,667 --> 00:53:59,584
That first gig that I almost lost
1067
00:53:59,758 --> 00:54:02,108
led on to the next gig, which led
1068
00:54:02,282 --> 00:54:04,330
to me playing with
Jimmy Page with The Firm.
1069
00:54:22,084 --> 00:54:24,652
Rock broccoli.
1070
00:54:25,174 --> 00:54:27,873
Yeah. Got some peas.
1071
00:54:29,396 --> 00:54:32,181
You know, there's no place like gnome.
1072
00:54:35,663 --> 00:54:38,927
I really was living
the rock and roll fantasy,
1073
00:54:39,972 --> 00:54:44,672
and I was living the reckless
rock and roll lifestyle
1074
00:54:44,846 --> 00:54:46,413
that goes with that.
1075
00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:49,024
This is nice.
This is gonna be good in juice.
1076
00:54:49,198 --> 00:54:50,591
Oh, yeah.
1077
00:54:50,765 --> 00:54:53,246
- This one is lemony isn't it?
- Ooh!
1078
00:54:53,942 --> 00:54:55,727
You feel kind of invincible,
1079
00:54:55,901 --> 00:54:58,643
like you're on top of the world.
1080
00:55:03,648 --> 00:55:06,346
That's when things started to change.
1081
00:55:07,956 --> 00:55:09,671
It's so nice, it made my eyes water.
1082
00:55:09,828 --> 00:55:11,743
Oh, yes, it made my throat burn.
1083
00:55:11,917 --> 00:55:13,658
In a good way, of course.
1084
00:55:13,832 --> 00:55:16,095
- It's quiet now.
- It's quiet now, yeah.
1085
00:55:16,704 --> 00:55:18,010
Ooh!
1086
00:55:19,141 --> 00:55:20,708
Now?
1087
00:55:23,145 --> 00:55:27,193
George and I... Wow, well,
it goes back a long way.
1088
00:55:27,367 --> 00:55:28,914
That's a whole story unto itself.
1089
00:55:28,934 --> 00:55:32,764
I, uh, in my crazy days in the eighties.
1090
00:55:34,374 --> 00:55:37,072
With The Firm, we had our own plane
1091
00:55:37,246 --> 00:55:39,205
with, uh, Jimmy Page in there.
1092
00:55:40,075 --> 00:55:43,557
Plenty of sold out shows
and travelling the world
1093
00:55:43,731 --> 00:55:45,603
and endless parties and all that.
1094
00:55:45,777 --> 00:55:47,735
The stuff that you dream of
1095
00:55:47,909 --> 00:55:50,825
you think is going to fulfill
you and make you happy.
1096
00:55:50,999 --> 00:55:52,566
It just doesn't.
1097
00:55:53,741 --> 00:55:59,486
I was drinking like, almost
a bottle of whisky a day.
1098
00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:02,097
This... There were people
1099
00:56:02,271 --> 00:56:04,404
that had known me during that time,
1100
00:56:04,578 --> 00:56:07,581
and they saw a friend of mine
like a year or so later
1101
00:56:07,755 --> 00:56:10,347
and they go, "Oh, yeah. I was
hanging with Tony Franklin.
1102
00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:13,282
He said, "Oh, that guy.
Is he still alive?"
1103
00:56:13,457 --> 00:56:14,873
- Oh, wow.
- He seriously thought that
1104
00:56:14,893 --> 00:56:16,547
I would not make it.
1105
00:56:16,721 --> 00:56:19,376
- Well, I'm really glad you did.
- Me too, love.
1106
00:56:24,555 --> 00:56:27,035
Rock camp is a little bit
like self-realization
1107
00:56:27,209 --> 00:56:31,083
because you are finding yourself.
1108
00:56:36,567 --> 00:56:38,395
To be able to give the campers
1109
00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:41,267
a magical experience
that they'll never forget
1110
00:56:41,441 --> 00:56:45,227
and draw my experience,
just to be able to do that is...
1111
00:56:45,706 --> 00:56:48,666
It's a pretty deep thing,
it really is, it's beautiful.
1112
00:56:57,370 --> 00:56:58,937
- It's magical.
- Hey!
1113
00:56:59,111 --> 00:57:01,809
How I reconnected
with my joy of playing...
1114
00:57:01,983 --> 00:57:03,637
- How are you doing?
- All right.
1115
00:57:03,811 --> 00:57:05,378
...was here
1116
00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:08,729
at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
1117
00:57:08,903 --> 00:57:10,339
Oh!
1118
00:57:11,689 --> 00:57:13,212
This isn't a chore.
1119
00:57:13,386 --> 00:57:15,339
You know, I'm at a point in my life where
1120
00:57:15,475 --> 00:57:17,666
I don't have to do anything
I don't want to do.
1121
00:57:19,261 --> 00:57:23,048
It's not about money,
it's not about, um, perks.
1122
00:57:23,222 --> 00:57:25,877
It's about, I enjoy it.
1123
00:57:30,229 --> 00:57:34,320
What struck me the most
in a way was how appreciative
1124
00:57:34,494 --> 00:57:36,278
and excited
1125
00:57:36,453 --> 00:57:38,455
and inspired these people are.
1126
00:57:40,718 --> 00:57:43,764
It's just a really cool
experience to touch
1127
00:57:43,938 --> 00:57:46,114
someone's life,
inspire them with music that
1128
00:57:46,288 --> 00:57:48,290
they grew up with.
1129
00:57:49,291 --> 00:57:51,598
That's what it's about, I realize now.
1130
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,471
These people don't have to do
1131
00:57:54,645 --> 00:57:56,298
Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
1132
00:57:56,473 --> 00:57:58,431
Uh, it's been really great to see
1133
00:57:58,605 --> 00:58:02,043
the way... the way Alice Cooper
and the way Roger Daltrey
1134
00:58:02,217 --> 00:58:04,219
and Gene Simmons see
1135
00:58:04,393 --> 00:58:06,288
how these rock stars
have been touched by it
1136
00:58:06,308 --> 00:58:09,311
and wanted to be part, um,
1137
00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:12,576
is really... is really
been a beautiful thing.
1138
00:58:12,663 --> 00:58:16,057
♪ I can see right through
Your plastic, man ♪
1139
00:58:16,144 --> 00:58:19,191
♪ I look all white,
But my dad was black ♪
1140
00:58:19,278 --> 00:58:24,762
♪ My fine looking suit
Is really made out of sack ♪
1141
00:58:25,676 --> 00:58:27,266
Now you guys should go
to these masterclasses.
1142
00:58:27,286 --> 00:58:28,789
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to the vocals one.
1143
00:58:28,809 --> 00:58:30,158
- Okay.
- With Jason.
1144
00:58:30,332 --> 00:58:32,073
And you should go to a guitar one.
1145
00:58:32,247 --> 00:58:35,076
Or... Or... Or you can go and
drink, whatever you choose.
1146
00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:37,209
Well, the two are not mutually exclusive.
1147
00:58:37,383 --> 00:58:38,645
- Right?
- Yes, right.
1148
00:58:41,256 --> 00:58:42,693
Just right right now.
1149
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:46,218
♪ Oh ♪
1150
00:58:46,305 --> 00:58:49,961
♪ Ah ♪
1151
00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,971
Did it feel smooth?
Do you push from your diaphragm?
1152
00:59:05,585 --> 00:59:06,934
Did you feel the difference?
1153
00:59:07,108 --> 00:59:08,545
- Yes.
- Yeah.
1154
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:10,372
Just hold on.
1155
00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:13,024
Hey, babe. I'm in the middle
of a vocal thing. Ready?
1156
00:59:18,163 --> 00:59:19,363
I'll call you back, okay?
1157
00:59:19,468 --> 00:59:21,558
Thanks.
1158
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,718
I've really suffered a lot with anxiety
1159
00:59:27,738 --> 00:59:30,349
and panic attacks over the years.
1160
00:59:30,523 --> 00:59:35,267
I really had to find
my own way to fix it myself.
1161
00:59:35,441 --> 00:59:37,225
And for me, it was music.
1162
00:59:37,399 --> 00:59:39,837
These people that do come to the camp,
1163
00:59:40,011 --> 00:59:43,101
a lot of them have problems
they want to overcome.
1164
00:59:43,275 --> 00:59:46,191
And within those five days, eventually,
1165
00:59:46,365 --> 00:59:49,498
they show their true colours
and their true angers.
1166
00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:53,372
I came from Cuba, as a six year old kid.
1167
00:59:53,546 --> 00:59:55,809
My mother and father
gave me a guitar and said,
1168
00:59:55,983 --> 00:59:57,550
"Learn how to play this,
1169
00:59:57,724 --> 00:59:59,867
it'll help you make friends
wherever you are."
1170
01:00:01,032 --> 01:00:03,817
Grew up pretty strict
Orthodox Jewish family.
1171
01:00:03,991 --> 01:00:06,167
Definitely the black sheep of the family.
1172
01:00:06,341 --> 01:00:08,410
If they saw me like this
right now, they probably get
1173
01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:10,430
a little scared
and, uh, and a bit worried.
1174
01:00:15,307 --> 01:00:17,657
All right, ladies.
Here comes another one.
1175
01:00:19,137 --> 01:00:21,032
I've always just had
stage fright, you know?
1176
01:00:21,052 --> 01:00:23,228
I never, ever thought I was good enough.
1177
01:00:29,495 --> 01:00:32,367
But now more than anything, I just feel
1178
01:00:32,541 --> 01:00:34,805
anxious but ready to rock.
1179
01:00:41,072 --> 01:00:44,292
I'm not a very good guitar player.
1180
01:00:44,858 --> 01:00:47,478
You know, Oh, my God, Jeff Beck,
I can't possibly get up
1181
01:00:47,556 --> 01:00:49,733
on stage and play alongside him.
1182
01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:54,651
All of a sudden, the drums just kick in
1183
01:00:54,825 --> 01:00:57,784
and just take the band
to a whole another level.
1184
01:00:57,958 --> 01:01:01,309
And I turn around and
it's the drummer from Chicago.
1185
01:01:02,397 --> 01:01:05,749
That's the first time in my life
that I had ever played with
1186
01:01:05,923 --> 01:01:08,708
a professional drummer of that caliber.
1187
01:01:09,404 --> 01:01:12,190
Playing guitar as
something like as Jeff Beck.
1188
01:01:12,364 --> 01:01:15,106
Yeah, I mean, he's coming out
full of enthusiasm for it.
1189
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,282
You know, this thing is offering
1190
01:01:17,456 --> 01:01:19,850
every musician that does it, something.
1191
01:01:20,024 --> 01:01:23,375
When you walk on stage, you own it.
1192
01:01:24,724 --> 01:01:28,685
And no one at that
moment and in that time,
1193
01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:31,296
is better than you are.
1194
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,865
Whatever it is, don't be afraid to like,
1195
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:37,476
do you, you know, loosen up a little bit.
1196
01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:39,043
This is about having fun.
1197
01:01:43,308 --> 01:01:45,049
If I was in charge,
1198
01:01:45,223 --> 01:01:49,183
I would get Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp in every school,
1199
01:01:49,793 --> 01:01:51,620
sixth grade.
1200
01:01:51,795 --> 01:01:53,211
And I used to teach sixth grade.
1201
01:01:53,231 --> 01:01:54,841
Rock and Roll Fantasy!
1202
01:01:55,015 --> 01:01:56,582
Yeah!
1203
01:01:56,756 --> 01:01:58,149
That's what keeps me going.
1204
01:01:58,323 --> 01:02:00,717
Every day I open up my emails
1205
01:02:00,891 --> 01:02:03,720
and people just tell me we
changed our lives at this camp.
1206
01:02:04,329 --> 01:02:06,679
It was awesome jamming
with the guy that wrote
1207
01:02:06,853 --> 01:02:09,160
one of rock's biggest anthems ever.
1208
01:02:09,334 --> 01:02:11,815
Just wow.
1209
01:02:14,121 --> 01:02:17,124
It's a great feeling when
people think you're important
1210
01:02:17,298 --> 01:02:21,302
and you make them feel like
they're the stars and they are.
1211
01:02:21,476 --> 01:02:24,131
I see you playing, you like your part,
1212
01:02:24,697 --> 01:02:26,264
but get with him.
1213
01:02:26,438 --> 01:02:28,266
As long as you got him back there.
1214
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,137
- We can't lose.
- We can't lose.
1215
01:02:30,311 --> 01:02:31,878
Yeah, it's great.
1216
01:02:32,052 --> 01:02:33,532
- Paul's right.
- A pocket.
1217
01:02:33,706 --> 01:02:34,968
Yeah, a pocket.
1218
01:02:36,491 --> 01:02:38,189
Good job, guys.
1219
01:02:38,363 --> 01:02:40,017
Guy's awesome, man.
1220
01:02:40,669 --> 01:02:43,542
For him to point to me to say,
1221
01:02:43,716 --> 01:02:46,336
"With that guy back there
on drums, you can't go wrong."
1222
01:02:46,371 --> 01:02:48,329
And he said he reminds me of Buddy Miles.
1223
01:02:48,503 --> 01:02:50,897
I grew up listening to Buddy Miles.
1224
01:02:52,551 --> 01:02:54,771
To be acknowledged
by someone of the caliber
1225
01:02:54,945 --> 01:02:56,598
of Paul Stanley of Kiss,
1226
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,601
what he has achieved
is what my ultimate goal is,
1227
01:02:59,776 --> 01:03:02,586
and that's something I will
cherish for the rest of my life.
1228
01:03:02,909 --> 01:03:04,345
I really will.
1229
01:03:04,519 --> 01:03:07,696
To be recognized
by my peers, if you will,
1230
01:03:07,871 --> 01:03:11,875
in a genre that I'm not used to,
was uplifting was encouraging.
1231
01:03:12,049 --> 01:03:15,487
Um, so I will now be a metal head.
1232
01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:18,098
All right? Okay?
1233
01:03:40,468 --> 01:03:42,897
Depending on your age
group and your taste in music,
1234
01:03:42,949 --> 01:03:46,083
there are certain musical movements
1235
01:03:46,257 --> 01:03:48,520
and personalities who are very defining.
1236
01:03:48,694 --> 01:03:52,219
And Dave Mustaine is a musician
who many would say
1237
01:03:52,393 --> 01:03:54,060
is the guy who created thrash metal
1238
01:03:54,134 --> 01:03:56,789
through the way he played guitar.
1239
01:03:56,876 --> 01:03:58,617
♪ Then do it! ♪
1240
01:03:58,791 --> 01:04:01,968
When I was in
my bedroom, jamming these songs
1241
01:04:02,142 --> 01:04:03,714
when I was in a high school band,
1242
01:04:03,752 --> 01:04:05,667
if you would have told that Scott
1243
01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,652
that someday Dave Mustaine is gonna be
1244
01:04:07,713 --> 01:04:09,280
watching you play his song,
1245
01:04:09,454 --> 01:04:11,218
that Scott would have
just never believed you
1246
01:04:11,238 --> 01:04:13,588
and said, like, whatever,
you know, pipe dream.
1247
01:04:17,897 --> 01:04:19,879
We went out of town,
and all those sort of things,
1248
01:04:19,899 --> 01:04:21,359
it was like the Megadeth soundtrack,
1249
01:04:21,379 --> 01:04:23,555
the Metallica soundtrack.
Thank you.
1250
01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:30,170
I used to give him potato with...
1251
01:04:35,175 --> 01:04:38,178
Context for a Rock
and Roll Fantasy Camp in my life
1252
01:04:38,352 --> 01:04:40,311
has been that I have a special needs son.
1253
01:04:40,485 --> 01:04:44,402
My second child,
he was born with brain damage.
1254
01:04:49,015 --> 01:04:51,396
Couldn't see, couldn't hear,
no voluntary movement.
1255
01:04:52,062 --> 01:04:53,628
- Yeah.
- This was the end of me
1256
01:04:53,802 --> 01:04:55,239
being a musician, actually.
1257
01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:57,632
Good job. And what
do you do with your feet?
1258
01:04:57,806 --> 01:04:59,765
In fact, I was recording a CD
1259
01:04:59,939 --> 01:05:01,559
and I was planning on releasing it
1260
01:05:01,636 --> 01:05:03,705
and I was planning on
even touring behind it,
1261
01:05:03,725 --> 01:05:05,423
then Jackson came along.
1262
01:05:05,597 --> 01:05:08,426
Hello, little Jackson.
Hello, sleepyhead.
1263
01:05:09,340 --> 01:05:11,559
And became the only thing that matters.
1264
01:05:11,733 --> 01:05:13,605
How do we help Jackson?
1265
01:05:14,127 --> 01:05:15,543
The first thing is he has profound,
1266
01:05:15,563 --> 01:05:17,870
diffuse, bi-lateral brain damage.
1267
01:05:18,044 --> 01:05:20,177
How do you help this child be
1268
01:05:20,351 --> 01:05:22,309
the fullest human being they can be?
1269
01:05:22,483 --> 01:05:24,572
And so all attention went to Jackson.
1270
01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:27,619
Boy, not happening.
1271
01:05:28,185 --> 01:05:31,188
We had a very intensive home program.
1272
01:05:32,841 --> 01:05:35,148
Helping rewire his brain.
1273
01:05:35,322 --> 01:05:37,281
It was like boot camp at our house.
1274
01:05:43,722 --> 01:05:46,986
Hey, look at you, look at you.
1275
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,207
Well done. Well done. Whoo!
1276
01:05:50,381 --> 01:05:51,581
Give it up. Give it up.
1277
01:05:51,730 --> 01:05:53,079
Good job. What's this?
1278
01:05:53,297 --> 01:05:54,907
O.
1279
01:05:55,081 --> 01:05:58,302
Good job, Jack.
Go, go, go. Perfect.
1280
01:05:58,476 --> 01:06:00,478
One day, you know,
1281
01:06:00,652 --> 01:06:03,026
his hands and his ears and
actually his eyes would move
1282
01:06:03,046 --> 01:06:04,743
as if it was a reaction.
1283
01:06:06,179 --> 01:06:08,747
I remember us going,
"Did that really just happen?"
1284
01:06:09,922 --> 01:06:11,619
Watch this!
1285
01:06:11,793 --> 01:06:14,492
It's really just
hard-gained, miracle type stuff.
1286
01:06:17,234 --> 01:06:18,931
You can beat me on this one.
1287
01:06:19,105 --> 01:06:20,541
It's a battle.
1288
01:06:21,629 --> 01:06:24,154
You're doing it. One more.
You're gonna tie it up.
1289
01:06:24,328 --> 01:06:25,807
Get it.
1290
01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,746
- I beat you.
- Yeah, you totally nailed it.
1291
01:06:27,766 --> 01:06:29,202
Nicely done. Give me some.
1292
01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:31,422
All right. Good job.
1293
01:06:32,423 --> 01:06:34,729
So tell me more about the day.
1294
01:06:34,903 --> 01:06:36,688
- Yeah.
- What's your film about?
1295
01:06:37,645 --> 01:06:40,561
- Me being a monster.
- About you being a monster?
1296
01:06:40,735 --> 01:06:42,848
No way. And what do you
do when you're a monster?
1297
01:06:42,868 --> 01:06:45,871
- I take kids down.
- Down where?
1298
01:06:46,045 --> 01:06:47,786
Down to Chinatown.
1299
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,223
You take kids down to Chinatown.
That's awesome.
1300
01:06:50,397 --> 01:06:51,790
Yeah.
1301
01:06:51,964 --> 01:06:54,097
You drop first and then I drop after.
1302
01:06:54,271 --> 01:06:55,663
One, two, three.
1303
01:06:55,837 --> 01:06:57,535
Oh, no.
1304
01:06:57,709 --> 01:06:59,948
You got to get it
right in the lines, okay? One.
1305
01:07:00,886 --> 01:07:02,540
Stay in the black lines.
1306
01:07:02,714 --> 01:07:04,629
Good one.
That's a good one. Slow down.
1307
01:07:04,803 --> 01:07:07,501
Excellent. Good job. Nice work.
1308
01:07:08,589 --> 01:07:11,984
So, Jackson, what would
you like to do this year?
1309
01:07:12,158 --> 01:07:13,705
What's one of your goals for this year?
1310
01:07:13,725 --> 01:07:16,467
Play bass at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
1311
01:07:16,641 --> 01:07:18,034
Yeah?
1312
01:07:19,339 --> 01:07:21,080
Yeah.
1313
01:07:21,254 --> 01:07:22,670
That's a G, so that's the... that right,
1314
01:07:22,690 --> 01:07:24,083
but we can do open first.
1315
01:07:24,605 --> 01:07:26,172
All right, third fret.
1316
01:07:27,130 --> 01:07:28,653
- Good, Jack.
- It's a lot.
1317
01:07:28,827 --> 01:07:30,089
Where did you go?
1318
01:07:30,263 --> 01:07:31,960
Go on, boy, quarterback.
1319
01:07:35,399 --> 01:07:37,495
So is there any chicken
in your chicken soup?
1320
01:07:37,618 --> 01:07:39,838
- No.
- No?
1321
01:07:40,665 --> 01:07:42,623
Awesome.
1322
01:07:47,802 --> 01:07:49,326
I did it.
1323
01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:51,893
Yes, you did. You cooked.
1324
01:07:53,547 --> 01:07:55,680
Yeah, nicely done. All right.
1325
01:07:55,854 --> 01:07:58,552
- Rock and Roll.
- Nice.
1326
01:08:01,990 --> 01:08:04,645
So, uh, you guys want...
1327
01:08:04,819 --> 01:08:06,019
Want to try something?
1328
01:08:06,169 --> 01:08:07,561
- Yeah, absolutely.
- Okay.
1329
01:08:07,735 --> 01:08:10,651
Um, how about in the chorus,
1330
01:08:10,825 --> 01:08:14,220
sit out and one beat.
1331
01:08:16,918 --> 01:08:18,877
One, two, three.
1332
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,823
- Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool.
- Cool.
1333
01:08:28,843 --> 01:08:31,498
So whose guitar can I borrow real quick?
1334
01:08:38,897 --> 01:08:42,248
So that's the riff and then the
other main riff and the cho...
1335
01:08:46,383 --> 01:08:48,776
There's a slight little bend going up.
1336
01:08:52,084 --> 01:08:54,066
- Good job, guys. That was fun.
- Thank you.
1337
01:08:54,086 --> 01:08:55,435
Yeah.
1338
01:08:55,609 --> 01:08:57,350
This is yours too.
1339
01:09:04,444 --> 01:09:06,098
The siren warble.
1340
01:09:06,272 --> 01:09:07,732
What's Teddy like as a councillor?
1341
01:09:07,752 --> 01:09:09,623
- Teddy has a...
- Does he stay on point
1342
01:09:09,797 --> 01:09:12,215
- or was he all over the place?
- Well, sort of all over the map.
1343
01:09:12,235 --> 01:09:14,193
Sort of, but...
1344
01:09:14,367 --> 01:09:16,828
By the time you had a whole day
of work and a visiting legend
1345
01:09:16,848 --> 01:09:20,156
and then a jam session
at the end, 10, 12 hours
1346
01:09:20,330 --> 01:09:22,114
can actually start to unhinge you.
1347
01:09:22,288 --> 01:09:25,987
So we have to go to the Martini
Bar to do some repairing.
1348
01:09:29,252 --> 01:09:30,775
As long as you guys had fun,
1349
01:09:30,949 --> 01:09:32,951
you guys sounded fricking fantastic.
1350
01:09:33,125 --> 01:09:34,953
You guys did.
1351
01:09:35,127 --> 01:09:37,956
You know the fact that David
lets me do the Q&A's here,
1352
01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:39,807
- Oh, that's awesome. I know.
- That's huge for me.
1353
01:09:39,827 --> 01:09:41,592
If it weren't for Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp,
1354
01:09:41,612 --> 01:09:43,135
I can't say that I would
1355
01:09:43,309 --> 01:09:45,262
even have any interest
in broadcasting it.
1356
01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:52,100
- That's one cowboy ninja.
- Bear Cowboy Ninja.
1357
01:09:52,275 --> 01:09:54,407
Bear Cowboy Ninja.
Oh, okay. I got it.
1358
01:09:55,930 --> 01:09:57,193
She's improved a lot.
1359
01:09:57,367 --> 01:09:58,987
- Yeah, I guess.
- I'm telling you.
1360
01:09:59,107 --> 01:10:01,264
You're going to have a big
sadness, Monday morning.
1361
01:10:01,284 --> 01:10:03,135
Oh, yeah, you're gonna be
like in depression, bro.
1362
01:10:03,155 --> 01:10:04,615
- You're like...
- The low after the high.
1363
01:10:04,635 --> 01:10:06,245
Post-camp depression is a thing.
1364
01:10:06,419 --> 01:10:08,465
- It's... it's heartbreaking.
- Right?
1365
01:10:12,295 --> 01:10:14,340
So tonight will be "Patience."
1366
01:10:15,123 --> 01:10:17,909
- Bad Moon.
- A little "Bad Moon Rising."
1367
01:10:18,083 --> 01:10:20,477
All right? Okay, here we go.
1368
01:10:20,651 --> 01:10:23,610
So that's... that's our set right there.
1369
01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:25,786
Gentlemen, play it right.
1370
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,681
Play it with no mistakes and play it well
1371
01:10:27,701 --> 01:10:29,355
and, um, you all...
1372
01:10:29,529 --> 01:10:31,337
There'll be a drink waiting
for you at the bar.
1373
01:10:31,357 --> 01:10:33,121
- How about have fun?
- Oh, there you go.
1374
01:10:33,141 --> 01:10:35,100
- And have fun. There you go.
- Have fun.
1375
01:10:35,274 --> 01:10:36,846
A little hard for my little band.
1376
01:10:37,537 --> 01:10:39,191
Yeah!
1377
01:10:39,887 --> 01:10:41,280
Alrighty.
1378
01:10:41,454 --> 01:10:43,195
- So.
- Okay, so last day, guys.
1379
01:10:43,369 --> 01:10:44,989
- Last day.
- Last day, last night.
1380
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:47,286
How about rock and roll all night?
1381
01:10:48,069 --> 01:10:49,641
- Tammy.
- Oh, yeah. We can do it.
1382
01:10:49,723 --> 01:10:51,159
Just do "Startled."
1383
01:10:52,204 --> 01:10:54,946
- Are you in a bad mood?
- I am in a bad mood.
1384
01:10:56,426 --> 01:10:58,428
Just... Just do "Startled."
1385
01:10:59,167 --> 01:11:00,691
That's a good song.
1386
01:11:00,865 --> 01:11:02,388
- Ooh.
- Oh, my alarm.
1387
01:11:02,562 --> 01:11:04,651
What the hell is that?
1388
01:11:04,825 --> 01:11:06,285
- Tinker Bell?
- It's Christmas.
1389
01:11:06,305 --> 01:11:07,915
It's Christmas. Yes.
1390
01:11:10,744 --> 01:11:12,659
So wait.
1391
01:11:12,833 --> 01:11:15,271
Okay, let's get ready
to check in, in Southwest.
1392
01:11:16,315 --> 01:11:18,274
- Hello.
- A very important thing.
1393
01:11:22,669 --> 01:11:24,192
Here you are, B33.
1394
01:11:24,367 --> 01:11:26,392
Got a better one than me
and that one's on time.
1395
01:11:26,412 --> 01:11:27,848
What am I?
1396
01:11:28,022 --> 01:11:29,850
- B?
- B33.
1397
01:11:30,024 --> 01:11:31,330
I like to be A.
1398
01:11:31,939 --> 01:11:33,573
We got four minutes.
Check this out.
1399
01:11:33,593 --> 01:11:35,641
Okay, okay. I know,
I gotta put my plugs in.
1400
01:11:35,726 --> 01:11:37,031
No, no, we'll play though.
1401
01:11:45,736 --> 01:11:49,609
♪ I know
She's gonna make you cry ♪
1402
01:11:49,783 --> 01:11:52,351
Tammy, she's an amazing singer.
1403
01:11:52,525 --> 01:11:54,919
She gave me chills a couple times.
1404
01:11:55,093 --> 01:11:58,052
Last night we played, she hits
a note that was ridiculous.
1405
01:11:58,226 --> 01:12:00,054
I fell off the drums set.
1406
01:12:00,228 --> 01:12:01,601
- Are you sure?
- Because I...
1407
01:12:01,621 --> 01:12:03,231
I put seat-belt on.
1408
01:12:04,972 --> 01:12:06,365
What do you like better?
1409
01:12:06,539 --> 01:12:09,281
Being behind the kit or being up front?
1410
01:12:09,455 --> 01:12:10,848
I'm going to be honest.
1411
01:12:11,022 --> 01:12:12,656
It's more nerve wracking being in front.
1412
01:12:12,676 --> 01:12:14,634
- Being up in front?
- Oh, my God.
1413
01:12:14,808 --> 01:12:16,616
- More nerve-wracking.
- You could hide behind drums.
1414
01:12:16,636 --> 01:12:18,875
And even if you mess up,
you can cover it a bit.
1415
01:12:18,986 --> 01:12:21,578
You can go on with dirty pants.
You know, this shirt's wrinkled.
1416
01:12:21,598 --> 01:12:22,970
There's spilled something down here.
1417
01:12:22,990 --> 01:12:25,210
- Sneakers.
- It doesn't matter.
1418
01:12:28,866 --> 01:12:30,302
I have to thank you very much
1419
01:12:30,476 --> 01:12:32,739
for giving me confidence to do this,
1420
01:12:32,913 --> 01:12:36,439
because this was very, very
hard for me. No, seriously.
1421
01:12:36,613 --> 01:12:39,471
- This was very hard for me.
- It's like the love connection.
1422
01:12:50,017 --> 01:12:51,410
I know, right?
1423
01:12:52,716 --> 01:12:54,002
- Hey.
- See you there, man.
1424
01:12:54,065 --> 01:12:55,458
- See you soon.
- All right.
1425
01:12:55,632 --> 01:12:57,156
I'm off. You guys sounded great.
1426
01:12:57,285 --> 01:12:58,963
- You guys sounded great.
- This was fantastic.
1427
01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:00,245
I mean, it really was.
1428
01:13:01,551 --> 01:13:04,162
It's very hard for people
to be up on stage
1429
01:13:04,336 --> 01:13:05,990
in the first place.
1430
01:13:06,164 --> 01:13:08,732
You know, who wants to
be told, "Yo, that stinks."
1431
01:13:08,906 --> 01:13:10,298
Rock and roll.
1432
01:13:10,473 --> 01:13:12,257
But once you break through it,
1433
01:13:12,431 --> 01:13:15,869
you realize the only thing
you have to fear is fear itself.
1434
01:13:16,043 --> 01:13:18,872
Thank you, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
1435
01:13:25,313 --> 01:13:27,490
Well, maybe fire...
1436
01:13:28,142 --> 01:13:30,095
Playing in your bedroom
is not the same as
1437
01:13:30,231 --> 01:13:33,191
playing with a drummer and
playing with a bass player and...
1438
01:13:33,844 --> 01:13:36,803
If one part is wrong,
it makes the other part wrong.
1439
01:13:36,977 --> 01:13:40,198
...Fantasy, guys, final night
here in Las Vegas, Nevada.
1440
01:13:40,372 --> 01:13:42,113
Being in tune is important.
1441
01:13:42,287 --> 01:13:44,269
I was drinking so much
water in my room, man.
1442
01:13:44,289 --> 01:13:45,682
I'm going to piss my pants.
1443
01:13:45,856 --> 01:13:47,272
Not playing ahead of the beat.
1444
01:13:47,292 --> 01:13:48,673
How are you feeling, brother?
1445
01:13:48,728 --> 01:13:50,991
I felt better.
Not being too loud.
1446
01:13:51,165 --> 01:13:53,516
But the show must go on.
1447
01:13:53,690 --> 01:13:55,236
Hey, you know, I got that throat spray
1448
01:13:55,256 --> 01:13:56,542
if you want the last of it.
1449
01:13:56,606 --> 01:13:57,940
I'll try anything right now.
1450
01:13:58,695 --> 01:14:00,479
And listening.
1451
01:14:00,653 --> 01:14:03,070
Blow it out. So who cares
after we're done and it's fine.
1452
01:14:03,090 --> 01:14:05,441
This is the one thing that some people
1453
01:14:05,615 --> 01:14:07,704
forget is one of the most important
1454
01:14:07,878 --> 01:14:09,662
parts about playing music.
1455
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:16,016
Hi!
1456
01:14:21,631 --> 01:14:24,416
My dad lived a... a tough life growing up,
1457
01:14:24,938 --> 01:14:27,593
He lost all his sisters
except one in the war.
1458
01:14:27,767 --> 01:14:30,054
But there was the music,
whether it was cantorial music,
1459
01:14:30,074 --> 01:14:31,902
whether it was the opera,
1460
01:14:32,076 --> 01:14:36,472
it was the power of music
that kept my dad alive.
1461
01:14:36,646 --> 01:14:39,387
Surviving Auschwitz and
Birkenau concentration camps.
1462
01:14:39,562 --> 01:14:41,389
You're just getting appetizers now?
1463
01:14:41,564 --> 01:14:43,633
- Just for now. Just for now.
- Yeah, just to have something.
1464
01:14:43,653 --> 01:14:45,548
Something on the table, and
there's gonna be other people.
1465
01:14:45,568 --> 01:14:47,265
So I don't vomit.
1466
01:14:48,396 --> 01:14:51,051
If they're playing three songs
and it's 12, 15 minutes.
1467
01:14:51,225 --> 01:14:53,445
That goes by in a heartbeat.
1468
01:14:54,228 --> 01:14:56,230
I think we're almost the same size.
1469
01:14:56,404 --> 01:14:58,319
We can swap shoes.
1470
01:14:58,494 --> 01:15:00,954
And if that's going to
be 12 minutes of blind terror,
1471
01:15:00,974 --> 01:15:02,565
then I've gone and I haven't done my job
1472
01:15:02,585 --> 01:15:04,674
and it's a bit of a waste.
1473
01:15:04,848 --> 01:15:07,807
You need to savour every
single second of this.
1474
01:15:13,117 --> 01:15:15,902
I know. I know.
1475
01:15:16,076 --> 01:15:17,791
Rub, let some of that rub off of me.
1476
01:15:17,861 --> 01:15:19,669
- It's rubbing, there you go.
- So that I'm not... not...
1477
01:15:19,689 --> 01:15:21,386
Not so scared all the time.
1478
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,455
Well, you know what it is?
You're concentrating on
1479
01:15:23,475 --> 01:15:25,259
so many other things up there.
1480
01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:26,957
- Yeah.
- And what do you forget?
1481
01:15:27,044 --> 01:15:28,997
Like the most important thing, breathing.
1482
01:15:29,089 --> 01:15:32,397
Please welcome back to
the stage, Mr. Paul Stanley.
1483
01:15:51,111 --> 01:15:54,027
♪ I feel uptight
On a Saturday night ♪
1484
01:15:54,201 --> 01:15:56,639
As a toddler, like he was nonverbal.
1485
01:15:56,813 --> 01:15:58,684
I mean, completely nonverbal.
1486
01:15:58,771 --> 01:16:00,860
♪ The only light ♪
1487
01:16:01,034 --> 01:16:02,906
When he puts a guitar on
1488
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,691
and there's a bunch of people
out in the audience,
1489
01:16:05,865 --> 01:16:07,432
he's a different person
1490
01:16:07,519 --> 01:16:09,086
♪ Hear my song ♪
1491
01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:12,785
♪ Playing on the radio ♪
1492
01:16:12,872 --> 01:16:15,614
♪ Get up, everybody's
Gonna move their feet ♪
1493
01:16:15,701 --> 01:16:18,835
♪ Get down, everybody's
Gonna leave their seat ♪
1494
01:16:21,272 --> 01:16:23,130
Now you see a child at a very young age
1495
01:16:23,274 --> 01:16:25,655
and you don't know
what his life's going to be like
1496
01:16:25,711 --> 01:16:27,583
as he gets older.
1497
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,900
And, you know, to see him grow and
1498
01:16:31,021 --> 01:16:33,501
be able to do something,
it's just fantastic.
1499
01:16:33,676 --> 01:16:36,057
I mean, as a parent,
you can ask for anything more.
1500
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,726
♪ Get up, everybody's
Gonna move their feet ♪
1501
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,384
Oh, the screams.
1502
01:16:46,558 --> 01:16:48,647
That was the camp
and Mr. Paul Stanley.
1503
01:16:51,781 --> 01:16:55,741
It's really a... a...
A moment for people to
1504
01:16:55,915 --> 01:16:59,745
rub shoulders and... and get some pointers
1505
01:16:59,919 --> 01:17:03,314
that they'll probably never
use at Madison Square Garden.
1506
01:17:03,488 --> 01:17:05,533
It's not about that, it's not about
1507
01:17:05,708 --> 01:17:07,100
how good you are.
1508
01:17:07,274 --> 01:17:09,363
It's about how much you enjoy playing.
1509
01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:16,806
♪ Tough girl! Tough girl! ♪
1510
01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:19,112
No more worries about the dumb notes.
1511
01:17:19,286 --> 01:17:21,985
We'll live the music, yeah,
if you're not singing.
1512
01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:24,944
Who cares about you?
It's all about just having fun.
1513
01:17:27,904 --> 01:17:30,210
Thank you very much.
Love you guys.
1514
01:17:31,559 --> 01:17:34,519
Mick Jagger on steroids.
Rob Cohen.
1515
01:17:36,216 --> 01:17:37,931
He told me that I could be a real...
1516
01:17:38,088 --> 01:17:39,896
Maybe not a rock star, but if I could be
1517
01:17:39,916 --> 01:17:41,787
a really, really good musician,
1518
01:17:41,961 --> 01:17:44,834
does that mean that I have to
be a rock star to be that? No.
1519
01:17:45,182 --> 01:17:46,990
No, I could be that
in my own little world,
1520
01:17:47,010 --> 01:17:48,359
and I'm happy with that.
1521
01:17:48,533 --> 01:17:51,057
All right, everyone.
Mr. Paul Stanley.
1522
01:18:01,459 --> 01:18:03,461
♪ I know! ♪
1523
01:18:05,376 --> 01:18:07,334
♪ I know! ♪
1524
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:10,947
♪ I know... ♪
1525
01:18:11,121 --> 01:18:13,993
I'm singing for the first time on stage.
1526
01:18:18,824 --> 01:18:21,015
I can do this like, you know,
I'm going for it.
1527
01:18:23,568 --> 01:18:25,521
Sometimes you need that kick in the butt.
1528
01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:29,119
Because your lack of confidence
stops you from doing things
1529
01:18:29,139 --> 01:18:32,664
that you actually probably can do.
1530
01:18:32,751 --> 01:18:36,189
♪ Everybody
Just don't let it go ♪
1531
01:18:36,276 --> 01:18:40,019
♪ And again
Don't let it go ♪
1532
01:18:40,106 --> 01:18:42,065
♪ Trouble! ♪
1533
01:18:44,894 --> 01:18:46,722
To play for these musicians on stage
1534
01:18:46,896 --> 01:18:49,028
was just an extra icing on the cake.
1535
01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:53,250
Paul Stanley saying,
I reminded him of Buddy Miles.
1536
01:18:53,424 --> 01:18:55,282
He says,
"Man, what are you doing here?"
1537
01:18:55,382 --> 01:18:57,625
You know, he said, "You should
be out there working, man.
1538
01:18:57,645 --> 01:18:59,169
And playing for a living."
1539
01:18:59,343 --> 01:19:01,519
And then Zakk Wylde, come on.
1540
01:19:01,693 --> 01:19:03,303
You know, that's...
1541
01:19:03,477 --> 01:19:05,479
That's pretty damn awesome.
1542
01:19:05,566 --> 01:19:08,744
♪ Baby! Baby! ♪
1543
01:19:08,918 --> 01:19:10,484
You know, your nervousness
1544
01:19:10,658 --> 01:19:12,249
goes through the roof
when one of your heroes
1545
01:19:12,269 --> 01:19:14,314
is watching you jam, but in a cool way.
1546
01:19:15,751 --> 01:19:19,319
You just in life don't really
end up in that crucible.
1547
01:19:19,493 --> 01:19:22,453
It's like you're basically
living with these rock stars
1548
01:19:22,627 --> 01:19:25,238
who you've grown up idolizing.
1549
01:19:26,718 --> 01:19:29,547
I don't think anyone can
go into that experience and not
1550
01:19:29,721 --> 01:19:31,505
learn about themselves.
1551
01:19:53,005 --> 01:19:55,399
One of the things I enjoy at camp,
1552
01:19:55,573 --> 01:19:57,859
I always call myself...
I'm a Jewish Santa Claus.
1553
01:20:02,972 --> 01:20:05,844
If I can make a difference in
these people's lives every day.
1554
01:20:06,018 --> 01:20:08,194
Then that's what's important for me.
1555
01:20:09,892 --> 01:20:11,894
You know, I am raised orthodox.
1556
01:20:12,068 --> 01:20:13,896
And I'm in rock and roll and sports.
1557
01:20:14,461 --> 01:20:16,899
I did take the yarmulke
to the next level.
1558
01:20:20,685 --> 01:20:22,295
Oh, did you guys hear?
1559
01:20:22,469 --> 01:20:24,123
- Wow.
- What!
1560
01:20:24,297 --> 01:20:26,909
Look at this camper
at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
1561
01:20:27,083 --> 01:20:28,655
What an honour.
Give me some love.
1562
01:20:28,824 --> 01:20:30,042
All right.
1563
01:20:30,216 --> 01:20:31,807
Jackson, I'm thrilled you're here.
1564
01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:33,480
- Excited?
- Yeah.
1565
01:20:33,654 --> 01:20:35,071
Right. Is this
a dream for you too?
1566
01:20:35,091 --> 01:20:36,463
Go to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp?
1567
01:20:36,483 --> 01:20:37,745
- Yeah.
- It's my dream too
1568
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,540
- that you're here.
- Can you rock?
1569
01:20:39,617 --> 01:20:41,575
- Yeah.
- What's your rock star name?
1570
01:20:41,749 --> 01:20:44,013
- J.J. Rockpow.
- Great.
1571
01:20:44,187 --> 01:20:46,493
Hey, dad. What's your name?
1572
01:20:46,667 --> 01:20:49,366
- Father of J.J. Rockpow.
- That's it. Now you got it.
1573
01:20:49,540 --> 01:20:51,324
You ready to do it?
1574
01:20:51,498 --> 01:20:52,804
Yeah.
1575
01:20:52,978 --> 01:20:54,806
Get some rock power here.
1576
01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:56,634
Okay? You ready?
1577
01:20:57,461 --> 01:20:59,463
What!
1578
01:21:01,030 --> 01:21:02,988
Hit it, Tucky.
1579
01:21:17,307 --> 01:21:19,091
It's very easy in this business,
1580
01:21:19,265 --> 01:21:21,702
which we're incredibly privileged
1581
01:21:21,877 --> 01:21:23,306
to forget where you came from.
1582
01:21:23,356 --> 01:21:26,055
But these camps reminded
me of where I was
1583
01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:28,884
when I made my first guitar, you know?
1584
01:21:29,058 --> 01:21:30,842
We reminded ourselves
1585
01:21:31,016 --> 01:21:33,279
why we started playing
in the first place.
1586
01:21:33,453 --> 01:21:35,194
By the time it's all over, you know
1587
01:21:35,368 --> 01:21:37,849
everything about their mother
and their father.
1588
01:21:38,023 --> 01:21:39,720
It's pretty cool.
1589
01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,854
They're rock stars for
the weekend. It's rock and roll.
1590
01:21:43,028 --> 01:21:46,945
It's in the title, right?
The Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
1591
01:21:47,032 --> 01:21:48,555
♪ Let's do this together! ♪
1592
01:21:48,729 --> 01:21:52,603
Because of fantasy camp, a light came on
1593
01:21:52,777 --> 01:21:54,997
to me about what I do and how lucky I am
1594
01:21:55,171 --> 01:21:58,391
and how blessed us musicians
1595
01:21:58,565 --> 01:22:00,611
who get to play music for a living.
1596
01:22:00,785 --> 01:22:02,743
It's like, "I got it, mate."
1597
01:22:02,918 --> 01:22:04,585
I've got the best job in the world.
1598
01:22:07,139 --> 01:22:09,402
All the belly. The belly.
1599
01:22:10,055 --> 01:22:11,404
Oh!
1600
01:22:11,578 --> 01:22:14,059
Wow. Handwork.
1601
01:22:15,843 --> 01:22:17,976
There you... Oh, there you go.
1602
01:22:24,678 --> 01:22:26,869
I've had situations
where people are so excited
1603
01:22:27,029 --> 01:22:28,839
about the camp, and when they're done,
1604
01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:30,316
they'll write to me, go, "Listen.
1605
01:22:30,336 --> 01:22:31,956
I'm thinking about quitting my job
1606
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:33,667
and... and go and do
music full time."
1607
01:22:33,687 --> 01:22:35,167
And that's when you have to...
1608
01:22:35,341 --> 01:22:37,019
You have to rein them in a little bit.
1609
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:38,977
You go, well, don't... just not just yet.
1610
01:22:38,997 --> 01:22:40,259
You know, but it happens.
1611
01:22:43,741 --> 01:22:45,837
First one to get there
and the last to leave.
1612
01:22:45,917 --> 01:22:47,223
I hate that.
1613
01:22:49,442 --> 01:22:51,836
Next life, I'm playing flute.
1614
01:22:51,923 --> 01:22:53,838
♪ Get that old man! ♪
1615
01:22:54,012 --> 01:22:55,709
Nobody is born a rock star.
1616
01:22:55,883 --> 01:22:57,885
Nobody is born president or anything.
1617
01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:00,497
They started off as kids also.
1618
01:23:00,671 --> 01:23:04,240
And the magic of the camp is
you actually meet somebody
1619
01:23:04,414 --> 01:23:08,287
who scaled Mount Olympus
and you have the sense
1620
01:23:08,461 --> 01:23:09,897
maybe I can do it too.
1621
01:23:14,641 --> 01:23:17,427
Have you been practising?
1622
01:23:17,514 --> 01:23:20,299
- Yeah.
- ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪
1623
01:23:21,997 --> 01:23:23,955
Beethoven would always say, you know,
1624
01:23:24,129 --> 01:23:25,676
it's not about playing the right notes,
1625
01:23:25,696 --> 01:23:28,655
it's if... if you have passion.
1626
01:23:28,742 --> 01:23:32,137
♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪
1627
01:23:32,224 --> 01:23:34,879
♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪
1628
01:23:34,966 --> 01:23:37,708
♪ We're gonna rock 'n' roll ♪
1629
01:23:37,882 --> 01:23:39,188
Here we go!
1630
01:23:41,799 --> 01:23:44,193
- Louder!
- ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪
1631
01:23:44,367 --> 01:23:47,196
If Bob Dylan and Gene Simmons
and Jimi Hendrix
1632
01:23:47,283 --> 01:23:49,617
audition for The Voice,
do you think we'd make it?
1633
01:23:50,329 --> 01:23:52,139
Well,
it's about time. This is about...
1634
01:23:52,201 --> 01:23:53,401
You think we'd make it?
1635
01:24:02,689 --> 01:24:04,497
I always think
that the people that show up
1636
01:24:04,517 --> 01:24:06,108
at the Fantasy Camp are people that
1637
01:24:06,128 --> 01:24:07,587
have it in the back of their mind.
1638
01:24:07,607 --> 01:24:08,913
-You know,
-All right.
1639
01:24:09,087 --> 01:24:11,220
This could develop into something,
1640
01:24:11,394 --> 01:24:14,179
that something could happen
if I got really good.
1641
01:24:16,442 --> 01:24:18,270
♪ Whoa! ♪
1642
01:24:23,014 --> 01:24:25,451
I... I can't think of
a more fun thing to do.
1643
01:24:25,625 --> 01:24:28,063
I mean it's better than
stamp collecting, you know?
1644
01:24:36,941 --> 01:24:40,684
♪ Get your drums and bass,
Guitars and amps ♪
1645
01:24:40,771 --> 01:24:44,862
♪ Put your dreams on the line
And take a chance ♪
1646
01:24:44,949 --> 01:24:48,474
♪ Jamming out together
and start a hot band ♪
1647
01:24:48,561 --> 01:24:51,695
♪ Because this is
The Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪
1648
01:24:51,782 --> 01:24:53,784
♪ We like to rock ♪
1649
01:24:55,307 --> 01:24:57,179
♪ We like to roll ♪
1650
01:24:59,094 --> 01:25:01,139
♪ We like it hot ♪
1651
01:25:02,749 --> 01:25:06,797
♪ We play with heart and soul ♪
1652
01:25:06,884 --> 01:25:10,801
♪ Come on everybody
And take a chance ♪
1653
01:25:10,888 --> 01:25:14,674
♪ And join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪
1654
01:25:14,761 --> 01:25:18,548
♪ Join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪
1655
01:25:25,729 --> 01:25:29,341
♪ You're never too young,
You're never too old ♪
1656
01:25:29,428 --> 01:25:32,953
♪ To dig in to the beat
And play some Rock and Roll ♪
1657
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,566
♪ If band's your rhythm,
You write your own song ♪
1658
01:25:36,653 --> 01:25:40,047
♪ It's a dream of a lifetime,
It's where you belong ♪
1659
01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:43,399
♪ We like to rock ♪
1660
01:25:43,486 --> 01:25:47,403
♪ We like to roll ♪
1661
01:25:47,490 --> 01:25:49,796
♪ We like it hot ♪
1662
01:25:51,102 --> 01:25:53,626
♪ We play with heart and soul ♪
1663
01:25:55,454 --> 01:25:59,154
♪ Come on everybody
And take a chance ♪
1664
01:25:59,241 --> 01:26:03,027
♪ And join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪
1665
01:26:03,114 --> 01:26:07,118
♪ Join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪
1666
01:26:14,038 --> 01:26:17,781
♪ You're never too young,
You're never too old ♪
1667
01:26:17,868 --> 01:26:21,088
♪ To dig in to the beat
And play some Rock and Roll ♪
1668
01:26:21,176 --> 01:26:24,962
♪ If band's your rhythm,
You write your own song ♪
1669
01:26:25,049 --> 01:26:28,400
♪ It's a dream of a lifetime,
It's where you belong ♪
1670
01:26:28,487 --> 01:26:30,663
♪ We like to rock ♪
1671
01:26:32,056 --> 01:26:34,014
♪ We like to roll ♪
1672
01:26:35,755 --> 01:26:38,062
♪ We like it hot ♪
1673
01:26:39,542 --> 01:26:42,066
♪ We play with heart and soul ♪
1674
01:26:43,807 --> 01:26:47,506
♪ Come on everybody
And take a chance ♪
1675
01:26:47,593 --> 01:26:51,380
♪ And join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪
1676
01:26:51,467 --> 01:26:54,426
♪ Join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪
1677
01:26:54,513 --> 01:26:56,907
♪ We like to rock ♪
1678
01:26:58,082 --> 01:27:00,215
♪ We like to roll ♪
1679
01:27:01,868 --> 01:27:04,131
♪ We like to rock ♪
1680
01:27:05,481 --> 01:27:07,613
♪ We like to roll ♪
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