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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,133 --> 00:00:04,466 - Ladies and gentlemen, Hulk Hogan! 2 00:00:04,566 --> 00:00:05,833 [energetic music] 3 00:00:05,933 --> 00:00:09,000 - Hulkamania-- God, it took over the world. 4 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:10,233 [fireworks popping and crackling] 5 00:00:10,333 --> 00:00:11,433 It was a very exciting time in wrestling. 6 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:12,966 - Got action! Hulk! 7 00:00:13,066 --> 00:00:14,200 - They love it! 8 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:15,766 - He was patriotic. 9 00:00:15,866 --> 00:00:18,133 He was for family values. 10 00:00:18,233 --> 00:00:19,766 - People loved him. 11 00:00:19,866 --> 00:00:21,233 - But then... 12 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:23,000 [power whirring down] 13 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:24,266 - Tonight the Showbiz Countdown-- 14 00:00:24,366 --> 00:00:25,566 Hulk Hogan's sex tape. 15 00:00:25,666 --> 00:00:26,800 - I never really imagined 16 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:29,900 I'd see Hulk Hogan's erect penis. 17 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,533 - [chuckles] 18 00:00:31,633 --> 00:00:32,700 It was crazy. 19 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,933 There were these 20 00:00:34,033 --> 00:00:36,333 celebrity sex tapes floating around. 21 00:00:36,433 --> 00:00:38,833 - This is the tape that catapulted her 22 00:00:38,933 --> 00:00:41,100 from socialite to superstar. 23 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,300 - But for Hulk Hogan, this was much more 24 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,433 than just an embarrassing sex tape. 25 00:00:45,533 --> 00:00:47,100 - I'm going full blown to try to find out 26 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,633 who did this to me and why. 27 00:00:48,733 --> 00:00:51,633 - This was one of the craziest cases that I reported on. 28 00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:54,366 - No, seriously, I do not have a 10-inch penis. 29 00:00:54,466 --> 00:00:57,300 - It turned out, there was something else on the tape 30 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,933 that Hulk Hogan didn't want to be revealed to the public. 31 00:01:01,033 --> 00:01:04,366 - What can you tell me about the use of the N-word? 32 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:09,100 [dramatic music] 33 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,866 - ♪ Ching-ching, you got the bling-bling ♪ 34 00:01:11,966 --> 00:01:13,500 ♪ ♪ 35 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,966 ♪ Who needs money, come on ♪ 36 00:01:15,066 --> 00:01:16,366 ♪ You need money, come on ♪ 37 00:01:16,466 --> 00:01:17,733 ♪ Show me the money ♪ 38 00:01:17,833 --> 00:01:19,166 ♪ But I never let it take me away ♪ 39 00:01:19,265 --> 00:01:20,500 ♪ 'Cause you a ♪ - ♪ Star ♪ 40 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,933 - ♪ You drive a ♪ - ♪ Car ♪ 41 00:01:22,033 --> 00:01:23,333 - ♪ Got the latest fashions and trends ♪ 42 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,866 ♪ But tell me who you ♪ - ♪ Are ♪ 43 00:01:24,933 --> 00:01:26,333 - ♪ Tell me who you ♪ - ♪ Money, money ♪ 44 00:01:26,433 --> 00:01:29,166 ♪ ♪ 45 00:01:29,265 --> 00:01:30,733 [static crackling] 46 00:01:30,833 --> 00:01:32,800 - Batman and Indiana Jones aren't exciting enough 47 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:34,933 for you this summer, you may want to check out 48 00:01:35,033 --> 00:01:36,666 Hulk Hogan's thriller. 49 00:01:36,765 --> 00:01:39,765 crowd: Hogan, Hogan, Hogan, Hogan. 50 00:01:39,866 --> 00:01:41,666 - If you thought the Incredible Hulk was 51 00:01:41,765 --> 00:01:43,900 a figment of some television writer's imagination, 52 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,300 you would be wrong. 53 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,765 He exists; he's alive and well and competing 54 00:01:47,866 --> 00:01:50,233 for the heavyweight wrestling championship of the world. 55 00:01:50,333 --> 00:01:51,233 [triumphant music] 56 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:53,333 - He is real. 57 00:01:53,433 --> 00:01:55,533 He is the Hulk. 58 00:01:55,633 --> 00:01:57,800 [rock music] 59 00:01:57,866 --> 00:01:59,233 - The origins of Hulk Hogan-- 60 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:01,066 it's hard to be 100% certain 61 00:02:01,166 --> 00:02:02,900 about all of the specifics of everything, 62 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,333 but the entire world knows the character of Hulk Hogan. 63 00:02:06,433 --> 00:02:08,365 But this person started out as just 64 00:02:08,466 --> 00:02:11,133 a working-class guy from Tampa called Terry Bollea. 65 00:02:11,233 --> 00:02:14,100 - Where'd you get that picture? - Somebody--it's yours. 66 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,333 It's not mine. - Oh, thank you. 67 00:02:15,433 --> 00:02:16,566 [laughter] 68 00:02:16,666 --> 00:02:19,700 - I knew he was destined for fame because 69 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Terry always just wanted to be number one. 70 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:26,466 - He'd always been determined to be the best. 71 00:02:26,566 --> 00:02:28,966 Make no mistake, it didn't fall in his lap. 72 00:02:29,066 --> 00:02:30,733 He worked his ass off to get there. 73 00:02:30,833 --> 00:02:33,900 [engines rumbling] 74 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,666 - It's South Tampa, and he was hanging 75 00:02:36,766 --> 00:02:40,200 around a lot of the gyms that the wrestlers went to. 76 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:42,233 And that's how Terry Bollea 77 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:44,600 broke into the wrestling business. 78 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:47,500 He spent some time going around to various territories, 79 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,100 really learning the craft and learning what he could do 80 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,566 to make himself stand out. 81 00:02:53,666 --> 00:02:55,000 ♪ ♪ 82 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:59,000 - Hulk, he had an amazing physique at 6'6" or 7", 83 00:02:59,100 --> 00:03:00,666 300 pounds. 84 00:03:00,766 --> 00:03:02,100 - Maybe you people out there don't realize 85 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,833 what you're looking at, Daddy. 86 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:07,966 But you got 6'7" right here, a mountain of a man. 87 00:03:08,066 --> 00:03:10,366 - He looked a little bit different from everyone else. 88 00:03:10,466 --> 00:03:11,500 He was very tan. 89 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,433 He had the bleached blond hair. 90 00:03:14,533 --> 00:03:15,600 ♪ ♪ 91 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:16,700 - I just looked at him and went, wow, 92 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,000 this guy's gonna... do something big. 93 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,866 - Terry worked very hard to build 94 00:03:22,966 --> 00:03:25,866 this character that would capture people's imaginations. 95 00:03:25,966 --> 00:03:28,066 And he finally settled on a name that would 96 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:30,400 make him a wrestling legend. 97 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:33,633 - This, the Incredible Hulk Hogan. 98 00:03:33,733 --> 00:03:36,200 [crowd cheering] 99 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:38,233 - He went to the top of the card 100 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:42,233 in the early '80s and became a sensation in the Midwest. 101 00:03:42,333 --> 00:03:44,300 - The blows by Bockwinkel having seemingly 102 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,000 no effect on Hulk Hogan. 103 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:47,500 - He sold out arenas. 104 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,566 - Here's the man. 105 00:03:48,666 --> 00:03:49,833 Here's the champion. 106 00:03:49,933 --> 00:03:51,666 - And then he sold out stadiums. 107 00:03:51,766 --> 00:03:54,166 That coincided with Vince McMahon, Jr., 108 00:03:54,266 --> 00:03:56,933 taking over the WWF from his father. 109 00:03:57,033 --> 00:04:02,200 And Vince McMahon, Jr., turned his eye to nationalization. 110 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:04,600 - The fabulous Hulk Hogan-- 111 00:04:04,700 --> 00:04:07,833 take a look at this giant of a man. 112 00:04:07,933 --> 00:04:10,966 - He knew that Hulk Hogan was the guy 113 00:04:11,066 --> 00:04:13,733 that he could pitch his company to 114 00:04:13,833 --> 00:04:16,565 to make pro wrestling a household name. 115 00:04:16,666 --> 00:04:18,266 - Hulk made a deal with Vince McMahon 116 00:04:18,366 --> 00:04:19,466 and never came back. 117 00:04:19,565 --> 00:04:23,366 ♪ ♪ 118 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:27,200 [driving rock music] 119 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:29,200 ♪ ♪ 120 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:31,433 - When Vince McMahon, Jr., took over wrestling, 121 00:04:31,533 --> 00:04:35,200 it was about spectacle and pomp and circumstance. 122 00:04:35,300 --> 00:04:38,300 Hulk Hogan was the perfect demonstration of that. 123 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,700 - Ladies and gentlemen, Hulk Hogan! 124 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,332 - We know who the boss is. 125 00:04:44,433 --> 00:04:46,366 That's the big dude up there. 126 00:04:46,466 --> 00:04:49,800 And he created the heavens, the earth, the Hulkamaniacs, 127 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:51,133 New York City, 128 00:04:51,233 --> 00:04:53,666 and the largest arms in the world, brother. 129 00:04:53,766 --> 00:04:55,800 - We have got action! Hulk! 130 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:57,700 - They love it! 131 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,600 - Hulkamania-- God, it took over the world. 132 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:02,033 [static crackling] 133 00:05:02,133 --> 00:05:04,233 I would say, at one time, his level of popularity 134 00:05:04,333 --> 00:05:06,666 was like--literally like the Rolling Stones. 135 00:05:06,766 --> 00:05:07,733 [crowd cheering] 136 00:05:07,833 --> 00:05:09,100 He was just huge. 137 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,666 [fabric ripping] - You're looking 138 00:05:10,766 --> 00:05:13,800 at a $10-million-a-year superstar. 139 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:15,633 crowd: Hogan, Hogan. 140 00:05:15,733 --> 00:05:17,733 - Hulk Hogan's gonna defeat that mean, nasty giant 141 00:05:17,832 --> 00:05:19,466 because Hulkamania is running wild. 142 00:05:19,566 --> 00:05:22,133 ♪ ♪ 143 00:05:22,233 --> 00:05:23,566 - He was the ultimate good guy. 144 00:05:23,666 --> 00:05:25,066 People loved him. 145 00:05:25,166 --> 00:05:29,233 - Terry Bollea as Hulk Hogan transcended wrestling. 146 00:05:29,332 --> 00:05:30,866 Hulk Hogan was a household name. 147 00:05:30,966 --> 00:05:32,966 Now you could watch the Hulk Hogan cartoon. 148 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:34,133 You could eat the Hulk Hogan cereal. 149 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:35,566 You could buy the Hulk Hogan shirt. 150 00:05:35,666 --> 00:05:36,933 You could buy the Hulk Hogan bandanna. 151 00:05:37,033 --> 00:05:38,733 You could buy the Hulk Hogan action figure. 152 00:05:38,832 --> 00:05:41,200 You could buy the Hulk Hogan home weight set. 153 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:43,633 - And then, of course, the "Rocky" movie 154 00:05:43,733 --> 00:05:45,900 with Stallone, Thunderlips, and all that-- 155 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,733 it all came together. 156 00:05:47,832 --> 00:05:48,900 - Rocky! 157 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,600 - [yelling] - Catch me! 158 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:56,066 - He got a starring role in "No Holds Barred." 159 00:05:56,166 --> 00:05:57,700 And then in 2005, 160 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,366 he launches his very successful reality show. 161 00:06:01,466 --> 00:06:02,933 - "Hogan Knows Best." 162 00:06:03,033 --> 00:06:04,866 ♪ ♪ 163 00:06:04,966 --> 00:06:06,400 - I really think Hulk Hogan 164 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:09,566 brought a different element to wrestling. 165 00:06:09,666 --> 00:06:11,700 He made it more celebrity. 166 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,633 [photographers clamoring] 167 00:06:13,733 --> 00:06:15,333 [camera shutters snapping] 168 00:06:15,433 --> 00:06:17,332 - People would want to take pictures and autographs 169 00:06:17,433 --> 00:06:18,866 while I was in the restroom. 170 00:06:18,966 --> 00:06:20,000 Or when I was eating dinner, 171 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:21,500 a lot of people would come up, you know. 172 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,866 At first, it kind of scared me, you know, 173 00:06:23,933 --> 00:06:25,766 because I said, my God, there's nowhere to hide. 174 00:06:25,866 --> 00:06:27,800 [indistinct chatter] 175 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:30,300 - If you're the biggest all-American hero, 176 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,266 how can you not become addicted to attention? 177 00:06:34,366 --> 00:06:35,500 [cork pops] 178 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,766 - My God, and it was crazy with the women. 179 00:06:38,866 --> 00:06:40,666 We were like rock stars, 180 00:06:40,766 --> 00:06:42,433 just a different city, different night, 181 00:06:42,533 --> 00:06:44,233 different bar. 182 00:06:44,332 --> 00:06:45,866 [laughs] 183 00:06:47,433 --> 00:06:49,233 - I personally like to watch the guys 184 00:06:49,332 --> 00:06:50,366 roll around on the mat. 185 00:06:50,466 --> 00:06:52,600 - And they have great bodies. [laughs] 186 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:54,300 - Hulk Hogan was a sex symbol. 187 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,600 And I think all the females fancied him. 188 00:06:57,666 --> 00:07:01,100 - You hit big in the WWF at that time. 189 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,433 - Brother... - Tons of women. 190 00:07:02,533 --> 00:07:03,766 - Let me tell you something. 191 00:07:03,866 --> 00:07:06,066 When I did "Rocky III," Stallone was single. 192 00:07:06,166 --> 00:07:07,333 - Uh-huh? - Right. 193 00:07:07,433 --> 00:07:09,100 - And we were running pretty hard back then. 194 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,600 - Hey, you've got to be dreaming of those days. 195 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:14,133 [laughter] 196 00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:17,000 - I have no idea what possible extracurricular activities 197 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:19,233 Hulk Hogan was getting up to when he was on the road. 198 00:07:19,332 --> 00:07:22,733 But Hogan and Linda remained married for 24 years, 199 00:07:22,832 --> 00:07:24,733 up until the very public breakdown 200 00:07:24,832 --> 00:07:26,433 of their relationship. 201 00:07:28,633 --> 00:07:31,300 - I mean, you may not know who or exactly when, 202 00:07:31,366 --> 00:07:33,233 but you know that he's acting different. 203 00:07:33,332 --> 00:07:34,966 You know that he's, you know, showing you 204 00:07:35,066 --> 00:07:36,800 all the signs of having an affair. 205 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:37,900 - You were suspicious then. 206 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,266 - But this wasn't the first time. 207 00:07:39,366 --> 00:07:41,366 I mean, this happened ten years into our marriage. 208 00:07:41,466 --> 00:07:42,866 And I kept my mouth shut. 209 00:07:42,966 --> 00:07:44,533 I don't know where his career would be today 210 00:07:44,633 --> 00:07:46,800 had I, you know, blown the whistle on him then. 211 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:48,800 - Would you have put up with everything had you not 212 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:52,766 discovered that Hulk, Terry, was having an affair 213 00:07:52,866 --> 00:07:54,366 with your daughter's friend? 214 00:07:54,466 --> 00:07:55,866 - Just a life full of lies. 215 00:07:55,966 --> 00:07:59,100 You just say--wake up one day and go, can I keep going? 216 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,966 - It's insane having a camera live on top of you. 217 00:08:03,066 --> 00:08:06,000 Just some things you don't want the world to know. 218 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:07,266 - We're getting a better idea 219 00:08:07,366 --> 00:08:08,966 what Hulk Hogan's wife is looking for 220 00:08:09,066 --> 00:08:10,966 in the divorce she's asked for. 221 00:08:11,066 --> 00:08:12,966 She wants a share of the family's two 222 00:08:13,066 --> 00:08:15,100 multimillion-dollar Florida properties. 223 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,366 The petition says the marriage is irretrievably broken. 224 00:08:19,466 --> 00:08:22,466 - When I went to the house, every room was empty. 225 00:08:22,566 --> 00:08:24,400 All my dogs and all of our animals were gone. 226 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:26,800 There were pictures of my family all over the house. 227 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:29,866 And every closet I went in, all the clothes were gone. 228 00:08:29,966 --> 00:08:32,466 For so long, I was like the captain of the ship. 229 00:08:32,566 --> 00:08:34,566 Now all of a sudden, you know, I don't even have a ship. 230 00:08:34,665 --> 00:08:36,665 [somber music] 231 00:08:36,765 --> 00:08:41,165 - It's just a terrible incident in his life. 232 00:08:41,265 --> 00:08:42,900 - You are alone in your house in Florida. 233 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,700 You're nursing a combination of Xanax and rum. 234 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,833 - Right, right. 235 00:08:46,933 --> 00:08:47,966 - And this--and you're holding a gun. 236 00:08:48,066 --> 00:08:49,300 And you write, "3 pounds. 237 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,700 "I remember thinking, 3 pounds of pressure 238 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,866 is all it takes to pull this thing." 239 00:08:53,966 --> 00:08:56,200 - Yeah. - "It would be just so easy." 240 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:57,766 - Yeah. 241 00:08:57,866 --> 00:08:59,733 - Hulk Hogan, he's in need of support. 242 00:08:59,833 --> 00:09:01,266 And who does he turn to? 243 00:09:01,366 --> 00:09:03,966 His old friend, radio shock jock 244 00:09:04,066 --> 00:09:05,366 Bubba the Love Sponge. 245 00:09:05,466 --> 00:09:06,833 - I continue to be myself. 246 00:09:06,933 --> 00:09:08,900 I continue to be politically driven, 247 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,866 opinionated, outspoken, 248 00:09:10,933 --> 00:09:13,166 controversial, in-your-face, no-holds-barred. 249 00:09:13,266 --> 00:09:15,400 - He keeps trying to get you to go to his house 250 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:16,466 and stay there. 251 00:09:16,566 --> 00:09:17,666 And you were like-- - He wants you-- 252 00:09:17,766 --> 00:09:19,166 he begs you to come to his house. 253 00:09:19,266 --> 00:09:21,000 - really is in love with you, isn't he? 254 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:23,033 - Well, my wife says we're a couple homos. 255 00:09:23,133 --> 00:09:25,866 [laughter] 256 00:09:25,966 --> 00:09:29,000 - Hogan was staying at Bubba's house often at this time. 257 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:30,266 But what came out next 258 00:09:30,366 --> 00:09:31,866 was something that nobody expected. 259 00:09:31,966 --> 00:09:35,665 A shocking revelation sets off a domino effect 260 00:09:35,766 --> 00:09:38,400 that would change Hulk Hogan's world forever. 261 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:39,966 - And so we're driving home from the Dollhouse. 262 00:09:40,066 --> 00:09:41,500 And my wife calls me. 263 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,733 And Hogan's down. 264 00:09:42,833 --> 00:09:45,233 And I just told her, I said, hey, Heather, 265 00:09:45,333 --> 00:09:47,000 have a little sexy outfit on. 266 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:49,500 And take care of my boy when we get home. 267 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,433 - Bubba was cheering Hogan on. 268 00:09:52,533 --> 00:09:56,300 And that started this whole sordid ordeal. 269 00:10:01,766 --> 00:10:03,900 [upbeat music] 270 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,833 - "The Bubba the Love Sponge Show." 271 00:10:05,933 --> 00:10:07,133 - I don't want to break the law. 272 00:10:07,233 --> 00:10:08,466 I don't want to-- I just need to know 273 00:10:08,566 --> 00:10:10,533 what the damn law is. 274 00:10:10,633 --> 00:10:13,400 - Bubba the Love Sponge was a very popular shock jock 275 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:14,733 in the Florida area. 276 00:10:14,833 --> 00:10:16,100 - Yeah, it might be. - It might be too thick. 277 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,633 We'll see. - Where is the shit? 278 00:10:17,733 --> 00:10:19,000 - Get away, here we go. 279 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:20,633 [fan rattling] - Oh! 280 00:10:20,733 --> 00:10:22,200 ♪ ♪ 281 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,300 - My name is Mike Waters, and I worked 282 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,000 on "The Bubba the Love Sponge Show," 283 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:27,666 where I spent most of my career. 284 00:10:27,766 --> 00:10:29,800 Tom the Treeman is completely unfazed. 285 00:10:29,900 --> 00:10:32,933 Bubba the Love Sponge is the ultimate shock jock. 286 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:34,433 - Here we go. Don't tap out. 287 00:10:34,533 --> 00:10:38,366 - We were just stepping on landmines constantly. 288 00:10:38,466 --> 00:10:39,366 - You know, now you guys want my wife 289 00:10:39,466 --> 00:10:40,665 to show her [bleep] hole. 290 00:10:40,766 --> 00:10:42,066 - Hey, you brought it up, man. 291 00:10:42,165 --> 00:10:45,366 - [chuckles] We were out of control. 292 00:10:45,466 --> 00:10:47,633 - I'm on fire again! 293 00:10:47,733 --> 00:10:49,165 [sharp bang] Ah! 294 00:10:49,266 --> 00:10:51,566 - We eventually worked our way up to number one in Tampa. 295 00:10:51,665 --> 00:10:54,333 We dominated for years, just dominated. 296 00:10:54,433 --> 00:10:55,733 I don't know how he got away with it. 297 00:10:55,833 --> 00:10:57,333 [chuckles] 298 00:10:57,433 --> 00:10:59,133 - Let's get you topless with panties on. 299 00:10:59,233 --> 00:11:01,333 - All right, you can strip me. - All right. 300 00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:06,033 - We got fined $750,000 because we were too dirty. 301 00:11:06,133 --> 00:11:09,200 Bubba was larger-than-life guy, amazing talent, 302 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:12,333 amazingly flawed. 303 00:11:12,433 --> 00:11:13,633 - Whoa, God. 304 00:11:13,733 --> 00:11:15,133 [crowd cheering] 305 00:11:15,233 --> 00:11:17,733 Foley just knocked out Bubba the Love Sponge. 306 00:11:17,833 --> 00:11:19,033 - Bah-bang. [chuckles] 307 00:11:19,133 --> 00:11:20,766 - Bubba the Love Sponge was on the periphery 308 00:11:20,866 --> 00:11:22,266 of pro wrestling, 309 00:11:22,366 --> 00:11:25,100 always having pro wrestlers on his show, especially Hogan. 310 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,633 - Who else can say they're best friends 311 00:11:26,733 --> 00:11:28,200 with the world's greatest wrestler? 312 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,366 [beep] Hulk Hogan is on the line. 313 00:11:30,466 --> 00:11:31,366 [echoing] On the line, on the line. 314 00:11:31,466 --> 00:11:32,500 - What's up, Hootie? 315 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,500 - Hootie up. What up? 316 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,500 - Hootie up, Hootie up. 317 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,700 What are you doing? 318 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,700 - Oh, man, that punch in the face 319 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,400 was like the one heard around the world. 320 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,966 - Bubba and Hogan became good friends. 321 00:11:43,066 --> 00:11:44,266 They're both Florida guys. 322 00:11:44,366 --> 00:11:45,665 [dramatic music] 323 00:11:45,766 --> 00:11:47,266 - First time Hulk Hogan comes to the show, 324 00:11:47,366 --> 00:11:49,665 you're like, it's Hulk Hogan. 325 00:11:49,766 --> 00:11:51,966 You know, he's a monstrously tall guy. 326 00:11:52,066 --> 00:11:54,033 [indistinct chatter] 327 00:11:54,133 --> 00:11:55,600 - Then after, like, six months, you're like, 328 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,466 oh, Hogan's coming in again. 329 00:11:57,533 --> 00:11:59,165 [chuckles] 330 00:11:59,266 --> 00:12:00,366 [ominous music] 331 00:12:00,466 --> 00:12:02,066 At the studio, there were rumors 332 00:12:02,166 --> 00:12:06,400 that Bubba was letting Hogan sleep with his wife, Heather, 333 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:08,566 and that, you know, he was taping it. 334 00:12:08,666 --> 00:12:10,666 [lens whirring] 335 00:12:10,766 --> 00:12:12,333 Certain people have certain proclivities. 336 00:12:12,433 --> 00:12:15,200 I think he was just a big voyeur. 337 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:17,666 - My best friend [bleep] my wife 338 00:12:17,766 --> 00:12:19,533 is not that big a deal to me. 339 00:12:20,666 --> 00:12:23,700 - This was one of the craziest cases that I reported on. 340 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,100 [keys clacking] 341 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Hulk had sex with Heather on a number of occasions. 342 00:12:30,766 --> 00:12:35,466 And Bubba had a camera set up in the bedroom. 343 00:12:35,566 --> 00:12:38,433 And so there were these three sex tapes of Hulk Hogan. 344 00:12:38,533 --> 00:12:41,700 ♪ ♪ 345 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,700 [somber music] 346 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,200 ♪ ♪ 347 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:48,633 - Bubba was having trouble with his wife, Heather. 348 00:12:48,733 --> 00:12:50,933 And they eventually got divorced. 349 00:12:51,033 --> 00:12:53,700 And his claim was that he took these DVDs, 350 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,700 and he was keeping them in his office at work for safekeeping 351 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,633 because he didn't trust his wife to not get ahold of them 352 00:12:59,733 --> 00:13:01,366 and try to profit off of them. 353 00:13:01,466 --> 00:13:05,200 - But apparently, one of his disgruntled employees 354 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:08,100 allegedly stole the tapes. 355 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,566 At the time, Bubba did not realize that they were stolen. 356 00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:15,300 He only found out when a gossip website, The Dirty, 357 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,666 published a screenshot 358 00:13:17,766 --> 00:13:20,266 from one of the Hulk Hogan sex tapes 359 00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:22,233 in early 2012. 360 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:25,333 It caused a sensation online. 361 00:13:25,433 --> 00:13:29,466 TMZ picked up on it, and it set the internet shattering. 362 00:13:29,566 --> 00:13:34,300 Bubba suspected that Matt Loyd, AKA Spice Boy, 363 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,633 stole the tapes. 364 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:39,333 - We were at 102.5 The Bone at that time. 365 00:13:39,433 --> 00:13:41,233 And there was a lot of animosity in the building 366 00:13:41,333 --> 00:13:43,700 between Spice Boy, who left the show and did nights. 367 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,366 He wanted to wash his hands of Bubba 368 00:13:45,466 --> 00:13:47,433 'cause Bubba had made him do a lot of things in the past 369 00:13:47,533 --> 00:13:49,133 that I don't think he was proud of. 370 00:13:50,966 --> 00:13:53,433 So when Spice Boy got the DVD, 371 00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:55,566 I don't know if he knew what he had in his hands or not. 372 00:13:55,665 --> 00:13:57,200 But when he popped it in the DVD 373 00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:59,466 and he saw the one and only Hulk Hogan, 374 00:13:59,566 --> 00:14:01,766 he was probably like, this is the meal ticket. 375 00:14:01,866 --> 00:14:04,700 [ominous music] 376 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,633 The day that it came out in the news, 377 00:14:06,733 --> 00:14:08,900 you know, Bubba was like, oh, my God. 378 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,166 You know, I can't believe this is happening. 379 00:14:11,266 --> 00:14:13,366 - When the first pictures leaked out, 380 00:14:13,466 --> 00:14:14,633 I asked my best friend. 381 00:14:14,733 --> 00:14:16,366 And he goes, oh, I had nothing to do with this. 382 00:14:16,466 --> 00:14:18,266 I'm praying to God he's not involved. 383 00:14:18,366 --> 00:14:21,533 - After Matt initially leaked it to The Dirty, 384 00:14:21,633 --> 00:14:23,833 then it makes its way to Gawker. 385 00:14:23,933 --> 00:14:27,400 ♪ ♪ 386 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:30,500 - Gawker at the time was mostly reporting gossip. 387 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,100 And then it grew from there 388 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,400 to be its own independent news operation 389 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:38,000 that was a site where you could get the real story. 390 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:39,866 - You get an unfiltered, sort of the way 391 00:14:39,966 --> 00:14:42,700 that people perceive celebrities in real time 392 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,866 that you don't get from any other media. 393 00:14:44,933 --> 00:14:48,266 - Nick Denton, he runs a website called gawker.com. 394 00:14:48,366 --> 00:14:49,733 He said that immediacy 395 00:14:49,833 --> 00:14:51,866 and humor are more important than accuracy. 396 00:14:51,966 --> 00:14:54,533 And he said, if that means a lawsuit, great. 397 00:14:54,633 --> 00:14:57,700 [frenetic music] 398 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,066 - We viewed ourselves as pirates. [chuckles] 399 00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:02,566 Like, you know, kind of hoist the black flag 400 00:15:02,666 --> 00:15:03,900 and start slitting throats. 401 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,633 ♪ ♪ 402 00:15:05,733 --> 00:15:09,300 One of the chief offerings that Gawker had to our readers 403 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,000 was that it was the place where you could say 404 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:12,433 what no one else would say, 405 00:15:12,533 --> 00:15:14,166 what every other newsroom 406 00:15:14,266 --> 00:15:18,500 was either too conflicted or too scared to say. 407 00:15:18,566 --> 00:15:21,633 The one overarching thing that Nick would repeat 408 00:15:21,733 --> 00:15:23,566 was that Gawker was a place 409 00:15:23,666 --> 00:15:25,700 where you would not get in trouble 410 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,900 for what you did publish. 411 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,166 You'd get in trouble for what you didn't publish. 412 00:15:31,266 --> 00:15:34,333 - Gawker.com was a place where everyone pushed each other, 413 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:36,933 like, to see who could push the envelope the furthest, 414 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:39,033 who could write the story that other people 415 00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:40,766 were incapable of writing. 416 00:15:40,866 --> 00:15:42,266 - We were driven by traffic. 417 00:15:42,366 --> 00:15:44,366 We got bonuses if we exceeded our traffic targets. 418 00:15:44,466 --> 00:15:47,600 So there was a real intense game of, 419 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:50,433 how do you find posts that are gonna go viral? 420 00:15:52,566 --> 00:15:55,400 By 2012, it was like a media trope. 421 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,366 There were these sort of B-list celebrity 422 00:15:58,466 --> 00:16:00,000 sex tapes floating around. 423 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:02,100 It was like a gross, funny thing-- 424 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,566 Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian. 425 00:16:04,666 --> 00:16:06,300 - Everyone knows the tape is out there. 426 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,466 But what they want to know is when they'll 427 00:16:08,566 --> 00:16:10,566 actually be able to see it. 428 00:16:10,666 --> 00:16:12,933 - And at that point, there wasn't a discourse 429 00:16:13,033 --> 00:16:15,100 around revenge porn. 430 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,066 It wasn't a thing that was really 431 00:16:17,166 --> 00:16:18,800 on the minds of most people 432 00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:21,933 who are either producing or consuming these tapes. 433 00:16:22,033 --> 00:16:23,266 It was just a-- 434 00:16:23,366 --> 00:16:25,100 almost a genre of story. 435 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,233 - And that's your Paris Hilton sex tape forecast. 436 00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:28,466 Back to you, Conan. 437 00:16:28,566 --> 00:16:30,433 - There were a bunch of stories for months 438 00:16:30,533 --> 00:16:32,000 about this sex tape 439 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:33,633 with Hulk Hogan that was going around. 440 00:16:33,733 --> 00:16:37,233 And he was a-- kind of a comical, 441 00:16:37,333 --> 00:16:39,566 pathetic figure from the past. 442 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:42,100 - There was a source that had emailed me 443 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,500 and said that a client of his has a package 444 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,733 that he wants to send to me. 445 00:16:45,833 --> 00:16:47,333 - I mean, he was like a washed-up 446 00:16:47,433 --> 00:16:48,866 former wrestling star. 447 00:16:48,966 --> 00:16:50,300 It was a little bit like, what are we 448 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,366 gonna do with this thing? 449 00:16:51,466 --> 00:16:53,366 ♪ ♪ 450 00:16:57,700 --> 00:16:59,033 - Tonight the Showbiz Countdown-- 451 00:16:59,133 --> 00:17:00,400 Hulk Hogan's sex tape. 452 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:02,200 - I'm coming to New York to talk about a wrestling tour 453 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:03,400 and our new time slot. 454 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:04,566 And all of a sudden... [crowd booing] 455 00:17:04,665 --> 00:17:05,800 [glass shattering] 456 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:08,032 - Gawker posted clips of the sex tape 457 00:17:08,133 --> 00:17:10,665 in all of its pornographic glory. 458 00:17:10,766 --> 00:17:13,566 - This is a shameless display by Gawker. 459 00:17:13,665 --> 00:17:16,566 [tense music] 460 00:17:16,665 --> 00:17:18,465 Who do they think they are? 461 00:17:18,566 --> 00:17:21,133 ♪ ♪ 462 00:17:21,233 --> 00:17:23,433 - The way A.J. answered the question was, 463 00:17:23,532 --> 00:17:26,633 he actually wrote this essay on the experience 464 00:17:26,733 --> 00:17:30,733 of what it's like to watch a celebrity sex tape 465 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,033 of this person who was a hero of yours when you were a kid. 466 00:17:35,133 --> 00:17:37,766 - I had no problem doing that because it wasn't really 467 00:17:37,866 --> 00:17:40,333 about the sex portion of the tape 468 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:41,466 that I was actually interested. 469 00:17:41,566 --> 00:17:43,933 I had to show that the sex existed. 470 00:17:44,033 --> 00:17:45,800 I did that as little as possible. 471 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:50,000 And mostly, that was just to really lead 472 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:53,833 into what was probably one of the best essays 473 00:17:53,933 --> 00:17:56,066 I've ever written, actually, in my life. 474 00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:59,666 - It was a sort of commentary on this culture of sex tapes 475 00:17:59,766 --> 00:18:01,533 that we were finding ourselves in. 476 00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:05,300 So we published 90 seconds or thereabouts, which had, 477 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,133 like, a little bit of actual sex in it. 478 00:18:08,233 --> 00:18:10,000 And it went crazy. 479 00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:12,966 - Here you have basically an American icon 480 00:18:13,066 --> 00:18:16,233 who's on camera naked and having sex. 481 00:18:16,333 --> 00:18:18,033 Why wouldn't people want to click on it, 482 00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:20,433 especially if it's on a free website? 483 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,033 - Hogan is being slammed by Gawker. 484 00:18:23,133 --> 00:18:24,766 1 million hits. 485 00:18:24,866 --> 00:18:26,333 - How about that sex tape? 486 00:18:26,433 --> 00:18:27,600 - 5 million. 487 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:29,533 - That was just like his in-ring wrestling-- 488 00:18:29,633 --> 00:18:31,300 three moves and a shitty finish. 489 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,100 [laughter] 490 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,166 - 7 million hits on the sex tape. 491 00:18:36,266 --> 00:18:37,700 The public can't get enough. 492 00:18:37,766 --> 00:18:41,700 - This was the complete undermining 493 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,400 of the idea of Hulk Hogan as a mythos. 494 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:48,133 - It's the worst thing I've ever been through, bar none. 495 00:18:50,366 --> 00:18:53,266 [dramatic music] 496 00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:55,966 ♪ ♪ 497 00:18:56,066 --> 00:19:00,000 - Hulk Hogan will take all reasonable steps 498 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:05,200 necessary to ensure that all persons and entities 499 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:07,466 who were involved in this are punished 500 00:19:07,566 --> 00:19:09,866 to the fullest extent of the law. 501 00:19:09,933 --> 00:19:12,666 - Hulk Hogan speaking out today for the very first time 502 00:19:12,766 --> 00:19:16,033 about the sex tape of him that just surfaced online, 503 00:19:16,133 --> 00:19:20,500 where he's having sex with the then-wife of his best friend. 504 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,333 - I never really imagined I'd see Hulk Hogan's erect penis. 505 00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:26,833 It's not something that Gawker needed to post. 506 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:28,266 [ominous music] 507 00:19:28,366 --> 00:19:33,566 - That was very hurtful, really hurtful for Hulk. 508 00:19:33,666 --> 00:19:34,700 - Got to tell you, I actually 509 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,166 feel really badly for Hulk. 510 00:19:36,266 --> 00:19:38,900 It looks like he was completely blindsided by something 511 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,033 that happened a long time ago. 512 00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:42,466 And really, when you think about it, 513 00:19:42,566 --> 00:19:45,366 obviously, such an incredible invasion of privacy. 514 00:19:45,466 --> 00:19:49,400 - When the tape was released, I don't think there was really 515 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:51,800 a pro wrestling fan who didn't at least 516 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:53,800 click on it out of curiosity 517 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:56,900 because Hulk Hogan was a household name at that point. 518 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,700 It was definitely a bombshell in pop culture. 519 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:06,366 ♪ ♪ 520 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,000 - I'm going full blown to try to find out 521 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:10,666 who did this to me and why. 522 00:20:10,766 --> 00:20:14,233 - The first time I heard about the sex tape was on the news. 523 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:16,400 Who would do that to Terry? 524 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:19,866 He's married. He's got children. 525 00:20:19,966 --> 00:20:21,433 - So I called Bubba, and I said, 526 00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:22,533 you're my best friend, brother. 527 00:20:22,633 --> 00:20:24,133 Please tell me if you did this, 528 00:20:24,233 --> 00:20:25,333 because if you didn't do this, 529 00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:26,733 I love you forever. 530 00:20:26,833 --> 00:20:28,433 If you did this, we were never friends. 531 00:20:28,533 --> 00:20:31,766 - Terry Bollea had spent his entire career, 532 00:20:31,866 --> 00:20:35,033 his entire life fabricating 533 00:20:35,133 --> 00:20:37,800 the idea of Hulk Hogan. 534 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,133 And in one fell swoop, 535 00:20:40,233 --> 00:20:42,733 that entire illusion was shattered. 536 00:20:42,833 --> 00:20:43,966 - At the end of the day, 537 00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:45,233 at a really weak moment, 538 00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:46,766 I made a wrong decision. 539 00:20:46,866 --> 00:20:48,966 ♪ ♪ 540 00:20:49,066 --> 00:20:52,000 - Gawker got takedown requests all the time. 541 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:53,466 But it's newsworthy material, 542 00:20:53,566 --> 00:20:54,866 and it's protected by the First Amendment, 543 00:20:54,966 --> 00:20:56,633 and we're gonna keep it up. 544 00:20:56,733 --> 00:20:59,200 - You know, this is a crime. It's a felony. 545 00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:00,900 You know, there's supposed to be two-party consent 546 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,300 when you film anything sexually. 547 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,866 I had no idea the cameras were there. 548 00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:06,400 - Hulk Hogan's privacy rights were invaded. 549 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,966 It's wrong for a media company 550 00:21:09,066 --> 00:21:11,200 to take footage that was secretly filmed 551 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:12,900 in a private bedroom, 552 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,200 showing a person without their clothes on 553 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:17,433 and engaged in adult activity, 554 00:21:17,533 --> 00:21:19,866 and to let the world watch that. 555 00:21:19,966 --> 00:21:22,233 - Denton argues Hogan made his sex life 556 00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:24,266 part of his public persona. 557 00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:27,633 Gawker says that's fair game for the press to cover. 558 00:21:27,733 --> 00:21:29,500 - We wouldn't stay married for 22 years 559 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,800 if he sucked in bed, so... 560 00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:31,866 - Yeah, he knows what he's doing. 561 00:21:31,966 --> 00:21:33,433 - He's good. - He can deliver it. 562 00:21:33,533 --> 00:21:36,666 ♪ ♪ 563 00:21:36,766 --> 00:21:40,866 - I understand why A.J. Daulerio posted it. 564 00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,800 But, like, even by the time Gawker published that, 565 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:44,433 there was this sort of, you know, 566 00:21:44,533 --> 00:21:46,766 growing queasiness around sex tapes 567 00:21:46,866 --> 00:21:49,066 and, like, people publishing that kind of stuff. 568 00:21:49,166 --> 00:21:50,800 - Just because of one incident one night 569 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:54,200 with someone who I was in love with, people assume, 570 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:55,733 oh, she's a slut. 571 00:21:55,833 --> 00:21:57,966 I don't know, it's something that's changed my life forever. 572 00:21:58,066 --> 00:21:59,533 - Not only for Hulk Hogan 573 00:21:59,633 --> 00:22:02,600 but also for Terry Bollea the person, 574 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:05,900 the damage done by the release of the sex tape 575 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,900 was such that it was a humiliation of him, 576 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,500 damaging to his reputation, 577 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,066 a smear on his character. 578 00:22:12,166 --> 00:22:14,033 And all these things are true. 579 00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:17,200 - Never have I ever been this embarrassed. 580 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,633 And never has my world been turned upside down 581 00:22:19,733 --> 00:22:20,933 in such a fashion. 582 00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:24,366 - If I had been the editor of gawker.com, 583 00:22:24,466 --> 00:22:25,866 I would not have posted that. 584 00:22:25,966 --> 00:22:27,233 So... 585 00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:29,333 ♪ ♪ 586 00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:31,366 - Are you any nearer to knowing who betrayed you? 587 00:22:31,466 --> 00:22:32,866 - At this point, no. 588 00:22:32,966 --> 00:22:35,533 - The story of the Hulk Hogan sex tapes is more convoluted 589 00:22:35,633 --> 00:22:38,133 than many of the pro wrestling storylines you might see. 590 00:22:38,233 --> 00:22:41,100 But nobody expected who he'd have to fight next. 591 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,900 [intense music] 592 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,033 - After Matt Loyd has stolen 593 00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:50,433 these DVDs from Bubba's office 594 00:22:50,533 --> 00:22:52,566 and it made it to Gawker, 595 00:22:52,666 --> 00:22:55,700 he reaches out to a California attorney 596 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,366 named Keith Davidson, who is sort of known in the industry 597 00:22:58,466 --> 00:23:02,700 as a guy who can sell or buy sex tapes. 598 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,833 And they come up with this scheme 599 00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:10,700 to try and sell the tapes back to Hulk Hogan 600 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,600 because they knew that Hulk Hogan 601 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,366 was very concerned that there might be 602 00:23:15,466 --> 00:23:17,800 even more damaging tapes out there. 603 00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:20,366 - Hogan's getting hit with more tapes? 604 00:23:20,466 --> 00:23:21,933 Just how many are there? 605 00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:25,366 ♪ ♪ 606 00:23:25,466 --> 00:23:28,700 [ominous music] 607 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,666 - Hogan, who was supposed to be promoting Impact Wrestling, 608 00:23:31,766 --> 00:23:33,966 was instead doing damage control, 609 00:23:34,066 --> 00:23:35,466 fielding questions about his marriage 610 00:23:35,566 --> 00:23:37,100 to his second wife, Jennifer. 611 00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:39,366 - Are you afraid your marriage won't survive this? 612 00:23:39,466 --> 00:23:42,566 - I have never seen anybody hurt this bad 613 00:23:42,666 --> 00:23:44,600 or flipped upside down like this. 614 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:47,700 So it's the worst thing I've ever been through, bar none. 615 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,966 - But even as he's out there 616 00:23:49,066 --> 00:23:50,566 fighting to keep his life together, 617 00:23:50,666 --> 00:23:54,066 that very same day, Keith Davidson reaches out 618 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:59,566 to Hulk Hogan's personal attorney/fixer, David Houston, 619 00:23:59,666 --> 00:24:01,233 and says, 620 00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:04,700 my client has come into possession of three tapes 621 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,133 that we think Hulk Hogan might be interested in purchasing. 622 00:24:09,233 --> 00:24:11,300 Let's start the bidding at $1 million. 623 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,166 ♪ ♪ 624 00:24:14,266 --> 00:24:18,600 In response to that, David Houston goes to the FBI. 625 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,000 And the FBI says, keep talking to them. 626 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,300 We will record the calls. 627 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,400 ♪ ♪ 628 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,400 [dramatic music] 629 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,400 ♪ ♪ 630 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:43,600 - David Houston, Hulk Hogan's personal attorney, 631 00:24:43,666 --> 00:24:46,666 and sex tape broker Keith Davidson 632 00:24:46,766 --> 00:24:49,300 agree to meet 633 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,566 in Florida at the Sandpearl Hotel 634 00:24:53,666 --> 00:24:56,533 and actually exchange the original copies 635 00:24:56,633 --> 00:24:59,766 of the tapes for $300,000. 636 00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:01,233 The hotel room is bugged. 637 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,333 David Houston is wearing a wire. 638 00:25:03,433 --> 00:25:06,133 The FBI is in the room next door. 639 00:25:06,233 --> 00:25:08,200 And then Keith Davidson enters. 640 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,833 ♪ ♪ 641 00:25:20,433 --> 00:25:23,433 ♪ ♪ 642 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:32,166 - Then Keith Davidson goes to bring in his client, Lori. 643 00:25:32,266 --> 00:25:34,400 Keith Davidson said, she's kind of an intermediary 644 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,900 for this other guy, Mr. X. 645 00:25:58,666 --> 00:26:01,700 - David Houston says, look, we have to watch the tapes. 646 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,100 We have to make sure this is real. 647 00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:09,400 ♪ ♪ 648 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,333 - There was something on the tapes 649 00:26:15,433 --> 00:26:18,333 that Terry Bollea didn't want to be revealed to the public 650 00:26:18,433 --> 00:26:20,833 because he knew it would destroy 651 00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:23,700 his reputation as Hulk Hogan. 652 00:26:25,133 --> 00:26:27,100 So then they hand over the check, 653 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,200 and the FBI bursts in. 654 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:32,166 - It's an FBI Royal Rumble. 655 00:26:32,266 --> 00:26:33,633 [intense rock music] 656 00:26:33,733 --> 00:26:36,233 - Keith Davidson and Lori, the intermediary, 657 00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:37,700 are arrested. 658 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,866 And she says, I'm representing Matt Loyd. 659 00:26:40,966 --> 00:26:44,266 - The FBI is really bringing the heat. 660 00:26:44,366 --> 00:26:46,800 ♪ ♪ 661 00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:50,166 After that FBI tag team, Hogan can turn his attention 662 00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:51,733 back to the main event. 663 00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:56,466 And this is one fight he's not gonna back down from. 664 00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:59,266 [discordant music] 665 00:26:59,366 --> 00:27:01,900 - Hulk Hogan filed two lawsuits today. 666 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,533 The first lawsuit was filed against Heather Clem 667 00:27:04,633 --> 00:27:07,566 and her ex-husband, Bubba the Love Sponge. 668 00:27:07,666 --> 00:27:09,833 Approximately six years ago, 669 00:27:09,933 --> 00:27:13,366 the Clems secretly videotaped Mr. Hogan 670 00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:17,033 having private, consensual intimate relations 671 00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:18,433 in a private bedroom. 672 00:27:18,533 --> 00:27:20,600 The second lawsuit filed today 673 00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:22,233 was against Gawker Media. 674 00:27:22,333 --> 00:27:24,966 It alleges that the defendants posted excerpts 675 00:27:25,066 --> 00:27:28,500 of the videotape at their website, gawker.com. 676 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,466 [somber music] 677 00:27:31,566 --> 00:27:33,133 ♪ ♪ 678 00:27:33,233 --> 00:27:35,966 - In 2014, Nick Denton still believed 679 00:27:36,066 --> 00:27:38,533 that he would be able to reach a settlement with Hogan. 680 00:27:38,633 --> 00:27:40,733 But it gradually became clear that this 681 00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:42,800 was a real risk to Gawker. 682 00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:44,200 - And you realize, well, wait a minute. 683 00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:47,700 Wait, this was supposed to settle, and it's not. 684 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,700 And there's a trial date. That's happening? 685 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,100 [crowd cheering] 686 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,166 - Hulk Hogan was not just after money. 687 00:27:54,266 --> 00:27:56,600 Most people who sue media companies want money. 688 00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,333 They don't necessarily want to punish the media outlets. 689 00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:01,233 So, like, something was off about the whole thing. 690 00:28:01,333 --> 00:28:04,166 There was a rumor going around Tampa that someone 691 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,066 is bankrolling Hulk Hogan. 692 00:28:07,166 --> 00:28:09,066 [crowd cheering and whistling] 693 00:28:09,166 --> 00:28:10,400 ♪ ♪ 694 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:14,466 - We later found out Peter Thiel was behind it. 695 00:28:14,566 --> 00:28:16,233 ♪ ♪ 696 00:28:16,333 --> 00:28:19,733 - PayPal cofounder Peter Thiel has now been reported 697 00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:22,466 as the man who has been financing 698 00:28:22,566 --> 00:28:25,466 media wars against Gawker Media. 699 00:28:25,566 --> 00:28:28,700 - Peter Thiel first started to form his vendetta 700 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,633 against Gawker because in 2007, 701 00:28:30,733 --> 00:28:32,633 Gawker wrote a post saying, 702 00:28:32,733 --> 00:28:34,600 "Peter Thiel is totally gay, people." 703 00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:37,466 - The point of that post is, there's an open secret 704 00:28:37,533 --> 00:28:39,666 about Peter Thiel that no one talks about 705 00:28:39,766 --> 00:28:41,366 that everybody knows. 706 00:28:41,466 --> 00:28:45,200 He lives a life as a gay man in Silicon Valley. 707 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,633 - Back around that time, that was still kind of 708 00:28:47,733 --> 00:28:49,433 a pretty spicy thing to do. 709 00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:53,266 - They were a singularly sociopathic bully. 710 00:28:53,366 --> 00:28:54,666 And there were many people that did things 711 00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:56,633 far worse than me. 712 00:28:56,733 --> 00:28:58,833 And so, you know, I was convinced that if I didn't 713 00:28:58,933 --> 00:29:00,666 do something, nobody would. 714 00:29:00,766 --> 00:29:03,700 - Hogan's secret financier, Peter Thiel, 715 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,366 had turned us into public enemy number one. 716 00:29:05,466 --> 00:29:09,433 He was the most vindictive man in Silicon Valley, 717 00:29:09,533 --> 00:29:10,833 and he wanted our blood. 718 00:29:12,866 --> 00:29:15,733 [dramatic music] 719 00:29:15,833 --> 00:29:16,800 ♪ ♪ 720 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,300 - I was one of the jurors. 721 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,500 And I remember them telling us it involved Hulk Hogan. 722 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,566 And I kind of had that eye-roll attitude, like, oh, no, 723 00:29:23,666 --> 00:29:24,833 here we go again, you know? 724 00:29:24,933 --> 00:29:27,500 Another Hollywood sex tape. 725 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,300 I was very nervous. 726 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,033 I mean, it's not like it's life or death. 727 00:29:32,133 --> 00:29:33,666 But it was a huge deal. 728 00:29:33,766 --> 00:29:35,866 - Gawker founder Nick Denton argues 729 00:29:35,966 --> 00:29:38,100 the case is really about whether celebrities 730 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,600 can use the courts to intimidate reporters. 731 00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:44,400 - This is where celebrities' desire to control their image, 732 00:29:44,466 --> 00:29:46,333 to manage their own business, 733 00:29:46,433 --> 00:29:47,633 the business of their image, 734 00:29:47,733 --> 00:29:49,800 comes into conflict with our business, 735 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,133 which is to put out the real story. 736 00:29:52,233 --> 00:29:54,700 - The reason that they posted this and the reason 737 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,633 that they kept it up-- 738 00:29:57,733 --> 00:30:00,100 power and profit. 739 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600 - Hulk Hogan's entire claim was based on 740 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,166 not being aware of the recording. 741 00:30:04,266 --> 00:30:06,966 - When you were having these sexual encounters 742 00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:09,833 with Heather, you testified that you had no knowledge 743 00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:11,733 you were being recorded, right? 744 00:30:11,833 --> 00:30:13,066 - Yes, sir. 745 00:30:13,166 --> 00:30:15,000 - Bubba the Love Sponge had made 746 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,200 public statements that Hulk Hogan 747 00:30:17,266 --> 00:30:19,566 knew he was being recorded. 748 00:30:19,666 --> 00:30:21,400 So we want to call Bubba the Love Sponge 749 00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,666 to testify. 750 00:30:23,766 --> 00:30:26,400 But Bubba pleads the Fifth Amendment: 751 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,766 I'm not gonna testify 'cause I might be 752 00:30:28,866 --> 00:30:30,733 implicating myself in crimes. 753 00:30:30,833 --> 00:30:33,066 - Bubba the Love Sponge never took the stand. 754 00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:36,500 Refusing to testify was a real blow to Gawker's defense 755 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,066 because his testimony would have called into question 756 00:30:39,166 --> 00:30:42,066 Hogan's claim that he didn't know he was being recorded. 757 00:30:42,166 --> 00:30:43,733 - Nothing in the trial had gone right for us, 758 00:30:43,833 --> 00:30:45,600 and everything had gone wrong. 759 00:30:46,566 --> 00:30:48,333 - When Hulk Hogan first took the stand, 760 00:30:48,433 --> 00:30:50,433 I almost got emotional and overwhelmed, 761 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:53,900 because nobody should have to fight for their privacy. 762 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,133 - And this tape totally sabotaged me. 763 00:30:56,233 --> 00:30:59,000 Just my demeanor, I just felt like I was turned inside. 764 00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:00,533 It was just constantly on my mind. 765 00:31:00,633 --> 00:31:02,700 It's just--it's just like this overhanging cloud 766 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,333 that will not lighten up. 767 00:31:05,433 --> 00:31:07,100 [static crackling] - In a case like this, 768 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,733 if something is newsworthy, 769 00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:10,566 the courts have to protect it. 770 00:31:10,666 --> 00:31:14,266 But on the other hand, even First Amendment freedoms 771 00:31:14,366 --> 00:31:16,000 are lessened somewhat when we're dealing 772 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:19,066 with private facts about people's private lives. 773 00:31:19,166 --> 00:31:21,866 - Our position was, you're a public figure. 774 00:31:21,966 --> 00:31:24,766 You can't claim an invasion of your privacy and then also 775 00:31:24,866 --> 00:31:27,633 go out there and invite people to peer 776 00:31:27,733 --> 00:31:29,766 into your private sexual life. 777 00:31:29,866 --> 00:31:31,366 - Does your wife give you third input? 778 00:31:31,466 --> 00:31:33,600 - Oh, God. - Oh, third, fourth, fifths. 779 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:35,166 - Really? - [chuckles] Yeah. 780 00:31:35,266 --> 00:31:37,833 - Hulk Hogan got on the stand and insisted 781 00:31:37,933 --> 00:31:40,700 that even though Hulk Hogan 782 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,033 was happy to boast about his sex life 783 00:31:43,133 --> 00:31:44,966 and didn't care about his privacy, 784 00:31:45,066 --> 00:31:49,033 Terry Bollea did care about his privacy. 785 00:31:49,133 --> 00:31:52,466 And this was the sex tape of Terry Bollea, 786 00:31:52,566 --> 00:31:55,466 not Hulk Hogan, the character that he played. 787 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,266 - No, I--[chuckles] What the [bleep] are we doing? 788 00:31:59,366 --> 00:32:01,033 Like--like, come on. 789 00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:03,533 - It was absolutely insane. 790 00:32:03,633 --> 00:32:05,400 - Well, as Hulk Hogan, you know, 791 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,400 I've said I slammed an elephant 792 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:11,033 and surfed on a tiger shark and, you know, 793 00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:12,400 body-slammed Moby-Dick. 794 00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,900 So it's--it gives you artistic liberty, 795 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,133 when you're Hulk Hogan, to be a character. 796 00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:19,966 And it's entertainment. 797 00:32:20,066 --> 00:32:22,133 - I felt like I was in a police interrogation. 798 00:32:22,233 --> 00:32:25,000 They were just badgering him about switching 799 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,466 back and forth from Hulk Hogan to Terry Bollea. 800 00:32:27,566 --> 00:32:30,533 - So when you are in Hulk Hogan mode, 801 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,666 rules and things like telling the truth do not apply? 802 00:32:34,766 --> 00:32:37,133 - When he was on radio shows in the character of Hulk Hogan, 803 00:32:37,233 --> 00:32:40,166 he would talk very openly about the size of his penis. 804 00:32:40,266 --> 00:32:41,966 - Do you have any doubt, 805 00:32:42,066 --> 00:32:44,833 as you sit in that witness stand today, 806 00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:48,400 that you were discussing the length of your penis 807 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,633 on Bubba's radio program? 808 00:32:50,733 --> 00:32:54,500 - Well, it's not mine, because mine isn't that size. 809 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,166 But we were discussing the length of Hulk Hogan's. 810 00:32:58,266 --> 00:33:01,233 - Seriously? So you-- 811 00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:03,833 - No, seriously, I do not have a 10-inch penis. 812 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:04,833 No, I do not, seriously. 813 00:33:04,933 --> 00:33:06,400 - OK, fair enough. 814 00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:07,733 - They couldn't wrap their head around it. 815 00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:08,900 Hulk Hogan's a character. 816 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,333 But Terry Bollea is a human being. 817 00:33:11,433 --> 00:33:14,200 He gets overwhelmed and hurt, just like the rest of us. 818 00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:17,733 - Did you give consideration to plaintiff's privacy 819 00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:21,300 before you published the video excerpt? 820 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,933 - Given the fact that he's a public figure, I did not. 821 00:33:27,033 --> 00:33:28,200 ♪ ♪ 822 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:32,566 - They opened up all of these questions about 823 00:33:32,666 --> 00:33:35,133 people's privacy, about celebrity, 824 00:33:35,233 --> 00:33:38,966 about what is acceptable to pry into and what isn't. 825 00:33:39,066 --> 00:33:44,166 - Do you think that celebrities have no right to be let alone, 826 00:33:44,266 --> 00:33:46,400 say, even in their own homes? 827 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,300 - I think it's limited at this point. 828 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,800 But, you know, public figures live a different life. 829 00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,400 - You know, when the Pamela Anderson 830 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,000 sex tape came out, 831 00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,766 there was just no real consideration 832 00:33:59,866 --> 00:34:04,900 about how that affected her as a person, as a mother. 833 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,266 There was definitely a lot more understanding 834 00:34:07,366 --> 00:34:10,800 when the Hulk Hogan sex tape came out about, yeah, 835 00:34:10,866 --> 00:34:12,766 you can't really do these things. 836 00:34:12,866 --> 00:34:14,266 - I don't care if he's a celebrity. 837 00:34:14,366 --> 00:34:16,300 I don't care if he's on every TV show, 838 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,333 every radio show talking about sex, being salacious. 839 00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:21,800 That does not give them the right to do what they did. 840 00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:24,933 And I hope this jury sympathizes with him. 841 00:34:25,033 --> 00:34:27,933 [discordant music] 842 00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:30,199 ♪ ♪ 843 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,433 [heartbeat thumping] 844 00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:34,166 - I was in Gawker's offices. 845 00:34:34,266 --> 00:34:35,266 Everyone came in. 846 00:34:35,366 --> 00:34:37,132 The office was filled. 847 00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:40,800 And everyone was watching a live stream together. 848 00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:42,433 ♪ ♪ 849 00:34:42,533 --> 00:34:46,866 - I don't think, even then, anyone quite, like, 850 00:34:46,966 --> 00:34:49,065 realized that the trial was potentially 851 00:34:49,166 --> 00:34:50,565 existential for Gawker. 852 00:34:50,666 --> 00:34:53,632 - We presumed that we were protected. 853 00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:55,533 ♪ ♪ 854 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,666 - When the verdict was read, 855 00:35:02,766 --> 00:35:05,966 everyone kind of was in shock, I think. 856 00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,300 [dramatic string music] 857 00:35:22,166 --> 00:35:24,566 [crowd cheering] 858 00:35:32,866 --> 00:35:36,366 - We decided to award Hulk Hogan $140 million. 859 00:35:36,466 --> 00:35:39,366 - He's done it, ladies and gentlemen. 860 00:35:39,466 --> 00:35:41,700 ♪ ♪ 861 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600 - A sex tape is not something I find newsworthy. 862 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:45,900 I don't want to see it. 863 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,366 I don't need to see it. 864 00:35:47,466 --> 00:35:48,366 - How you feel, Hulk? 865 00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:49,733 - I feel great. 866 00:35:49,833 --> 00:35:51,500 I'm really happy about everything that's happened. 867 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,066 And I think we made history today 868 00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:56,733 because I think we protected a lot of people 869 00:35:56,833 --> 00:35:59,700 from maybe going through what I went through. 870 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,366 So we're very excited and very happy. 871 00:36:01,466 --> 00:36:04,400 ♪ ♪ 872 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:06,166 - I mean, we were stunned. 873 00:36:06,266 --> 00:36:08,100 It was gobsmacking. 874 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,033 [dramatic music] 875 00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:12,833 - Nothing at Gawker was going to be the same after that. 876 00:36:12,933 --> 00:36:14,500 ♪ ♪ 877 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,266 - The online media company Gawker 878 00:36:16,366 --> 00:36:17,766 is on the auction block this morning. 879 00:36:17,866 --> 00:36:19,500 The company filed for bankruptcy just three months 880 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000 after losing that invasion-of-privacy case 881 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,033 involving ex-wrestler Hulk Hogan. 882 00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,066 [static crackling] 883 00:36:26,166 --> 00:36:29,066 - The Hulk Hogan trial was not about Hulk Hogan. 884 00:36:29,166 --> 00:36:32,033 The object of the trial was to destroy Gawker. 885 00:36:32,133 --> 00:36:35,000 Peter Thiel has determined what the new rules are. 886 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:38,733 And it's ironic, a sort of Silicon Valley tech champion 887 00:36:38,833 --> 00:36:41,066 was funding the effort of a man 888 00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:44,800 who was suing Gawker to keep his vile gutter racism 889 00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:46,200 from becoming public. 890 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:47,366 [static crackling] - As you know, 891 00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:48,866 Gawker has said that you initially 892 00:36:48,966 --> 00:36:51,866 filed the claim to prevent the publication 893 00:36:51,966 --> 00:36:54,066 of racist language from you in another tape. 894 00:36:54,166 --> 00:36:55,233 - Mm-hmm. 895 00:37:01,666 --> 00:37:02,766 [somber music] 896 00:37:02,866 --> 00:37:04,766 - Following the release of the sex tape, 897 00:37:04,866 --> 00:37:07,433 there were a number of stories that came out 898 00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:09,000 from another of the tapes 899 00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,433 revealing that Hogan had said some 900 00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:13,866 extremely racist things 901 00:37:13,966 --> 00:37:15,533 in between his sexual escapades 902 00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:16,866 with Bubba's wife. 903 00:37:16,966 --> 00:37:18,833 - WWE and Hulk Hogan are now parting ways 904 00:37:18,933 --> 00:37:23,066 over racist slurs Hogan is heard repeating over and over. 905 00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:25,900 - Hogan is heard on the tape talking about his daughter, 906 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,833 Brooke, who he accused of sleeping 907 00:37:27,933 --> 00:37:29,333 with an African American. 908 00:37:46,933 --> 00:37:48,666 [glass shattering] 909 00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:50,666 - This is hard to watch, 910 00:37:50,766 --> 00:37:54,200 the implosion of an American icon. 911 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,833 [glass shattering] 912 00:37:56,933 --> 00:37:58,633 - What he said when he believed no one 913 00:37:58,733 --> 00:37:59,966 would ever hear these things, 914 00:38:00,066 --> 00:38:02,533 it shows you the real person. 915 00:38:02,633 --> 00:38:04,933 This wasn't Hulk Hogan the superstar. 916 00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:06,666 This was Terry Bollea. 917 00:38:06,766 --> 00:38:08,733 These were the things that he believed. 918 00:38:08,833 --> 00:38:11,566 - The man I met and I know would 919 00:38:11,666 --> 00:38:14,733 never have said racial slurs. 920 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,000 - A lot of people turned against him. 921 00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,066 It was a-- 922 00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:21,533 I worried about it a lot for him. 923 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:24,966 Almost put him in a point of depression. 924 00:38:25,066 --> 00:38:28,200 - What can you tell me about the use of the N-word 925 00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:30,433 in one of those tapes? 926 00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:33,433 - The use of the N-word goes along with that day, 927 00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:35,600 when I bottomed out. 928 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,700 People that know me know I'm not a racist. 929 00:38:37,766 --> 00:38:41,300 Some of my best friends, you know, are Afro-American. 930 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,800 The people that know me know I'm not a racist. 931 00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:45,200 The WWE fans know me. 932 00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,133 They know I'm not a racist. 933 00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:49,500 It's just a horrible mistake. 934 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,233 - I was pretty stunned at just how... 935 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:57,666 aggressively racist what he said was. 936 00:38:57,766 --> 00:38:59,100 And the apologies that he's issued 937 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,800 have, to me, rung very hollow. 938 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,666 - He said that the Black wrestlers in the-- 939 00:39:04,766 --> 00:39:06,633 aren't ready to have you back. 940 00:39:06,733 --> 00:39:07,833 - Well, I didn't hear that, brother. 941 00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:09,000 I just heard him make a comment... 942 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,200 - Let's go. 943 00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:12,300 - On TMZ about it, about--he said he-- 944 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,166 I should apologize. 945 00:39:14,266 --> 00:39:16,800 And I totally agree, but not to the Black wrestlers, 946 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:18,000 to all the wrestlers. 947 00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:20,333 - He's saying things that he genuinely 948 00:39:20,433 --> 00:39:22,366 feels or believes unprompted, 949 00:39:22,466 --> 00:39:24,433 with the belief that no one was around. 950 00:39:24,533 --> 00:39:29,133 - Do you blame Bubba as much as you blame Gawker? 951 00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:30,133 - No, I'm accountable. 952 00:39:30,233 --> 00:39:32,400 I blame myself, you know. 953 00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:34,966 - I know it's not easy to root for me. 954 00:39:35,066 --> 00:39:36,000 I know. 955 00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:37,266 I know that it's not easy to think 956 00:39:37,366 --> 00:39:38,600 Bubba's being the victim. 957 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,366 - Bubba the Love Sponge is the ultimate schemer. 958 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,400 I think it was a big propaganda campaign 959 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,066 that he's the victim of this. 960 00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:48,733 So he--you know, he did all this. 961 00:39:48,833 --> 00:39:50,300 But it's not his fault. 962 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,266 - I did let him [bleep] my wife. 963 00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:55,300 And my home surveillance system got-- 964 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,066 captivated it, as it captivates everything. 965 00:39:58,166 --> 00:40:00,833 That's the--my own-- that's my only dabbling 966 00:40:00,933 --> 00:40:01,866 in the whole thing. 967 00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:03,233 ♪ ♪ 968 00:40:03,333 --> 00:40:07,500 - It was really hard to... 969 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,133 handle the fact that he did this to me, you know. 970 00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:11,433 It was-- 971 00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:15,200 ♪ ♪ 972 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:16,833 I don't how to say it. 973 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:23,933 ♪ ♪ 974 00:40:43,166 --> 00:40:44,400 - One last question, you know, WWE-- 975 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:45,666 Hulk Hogan wants a comeback. 976 00:40:45,766 --> 00:40:47,133 Do you think it's ever happening? 977 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:49,033 - I think, after apologies to all 978 00:40:49,133 --> 00:40:52,000 the existing African American talent, that, 979 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,800 you know, he would be a-- 980 00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:55,833 we're a forgiving world. 981 00:40:55,933 --> 00:40:58,666 - In 2018, Hogan made his first reappearance 982 00:40:58,766 --> 00:40:59,966 on WWE Television. 983 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:01,233 - Team Hogan, Team Flair. 984 00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:03,066 Did you ever think, 30 years later, 985 00:41:03,166 --> 00:41:05,133 you guys would still be continuing the rivalry? 986 00:41:05,233 --> 00:41:07,100 - Well, you know, I figured it would never end. 987 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,900 - It's what you've all been waiting for, 988 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,866 the one, the only Hulk Hogan. 989 00:41:12,966 --> 00:41:15,900 - He appeared again at WrestleMania 35 990 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,100 to open the show and got a huge cheer. 991 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,966 [crowd cheering] 992 00:41:22,066 --> 00:41:25,800 You are always going to want to hold on to your heroes. 993 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,133 [upbeat rock music] 994 00:41:27,233 --> 00:41:29,233 - How do you turn this into, you know, 995 00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:32,233 the happy ending that I'm sure you've prayed for? 996 00:41:32,333 --> 00:41:34,600 - You know, just everybody that knows me knows who I am. 997 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:36,500 But for those who don't, I'm gonna fight 998 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,266 to win them back one day at a time. 999 00:41:39,366 --> 00:41:43,533 And there's nothing else I can do except be honest. 1000 00:41:43,633 --> 00:41:46,066 - It just shows you how fame, money, 1001 00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:49,933 power, celebrity can overcome any scandal, 1002 00:41:50,033 --> 00:41:52,500 even a racist sex tape. 1003 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,566 - I feel like a kid again because the fans 1004 00:41:54,666 --> 00:41:55,800 are so excited. 1005 00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,666 There's so much energy here. 1006 00:41:57,733 --> 00:42:00,200 I feel kind of like Hulkamania has been reborn. 75354

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