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- Ladies and gentlemen,
Hulk Hogan!
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[energetic music]
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- Hulkamania--
God, it took over the world.
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[fireworks popping
and crackling]
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It was a very exciting time
in wrestling.
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- Got action! Hulk!
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- They love it!
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- He was patriotic.
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He was for family values.
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- People loved him.
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- But then...
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[power whirring down]
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- Tonight
the Showbiz Countdown--
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Hulk Hogan's sex tape.
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- I never really imagined
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I'd see Hulk Hogan's
erect penis.
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- [chuckles]
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It was crazy.
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There were these
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celebrity sex tapes
floating around.
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- This is the tape
that catapulted her
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from socialite to superstar.
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- But for Hulk Hogan,
this was much more
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than just
an embarrassing sex tape.
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- I'm going full blown
to try to find out
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who did this to me and why.
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- This was one of the craziest
cases that I reported on.
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- No, seriously, I do not have
a 10-inch penis.
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- It turned out, there was
something else on the tape
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that Hulk Hogan didn't want
to be revealed to the public.
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- What can you tell me
about the use of the N-word?
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[dramatic music]
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- ♪ Ching-ching,
you got the bling-bling ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ Who needs money, come on ♪
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♪ You need money, come on ♪
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♪ Show me the money ♪
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♪ But I never let it
take me away ♪
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♪ 'Cause you a ♪
- ♪ Star ♪
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- ♪ You drive a ♪
- ♪ Car ♪
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- ♪ Got the latest fashions
and trends ♪
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♪ But tell me who you ♪
- ♪ Are ♪
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- ♪ Tell me who you ♪
- ♪ Money, money ♪
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♪ ♪
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[static crackling]
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- Batman and Indiana Jones
aren't exciting enough
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for you this summer,
you may want to check out
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Hulk Hogan's thriller.
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crowd: Hogan, Hogan,
Hogan, Hogan.
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- If you thought
the Incredible Hulk was
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a figment of some television
writer's imagination,
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you would be wrong.
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He exists; he's alive and well
and competing
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for the heavyweight wrestling
championship of the world.
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[triumphant music]
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- He is real.
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He is the Hulk.
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[rock music]
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- The origins of Hulk Hogan--
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it's hard to be 100% certain
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about all of the specifics
of everything,
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but the entire world knows
the character of Hulk Hogan.
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But this person
started out as just
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a working-class guy from Tampa
called Terry Bollea.
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- Where'd you get that picture?
- Somebody--it's yours.
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It's not mine.
- Oh, thank you.
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[laughter]
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- I knew he was destined
for fame because
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Terry always just wanted
to be number one.
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- He'd always been determined
to be the best.
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Make no mistake,
it didn't fall in his lap.
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He worked his ass off
to get there.
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[engines rumbling]
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- It's South Tampa,
and he was hanging
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around a lot of the gyms
that the wrestlers went to.
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And that's how Terry Bollea
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broke into
the wrestling business.
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He spent some time going
around to various territories,
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really learning the craft
and learning what he could do
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to make himself stand out.
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♪ ♪
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- Hulk, he had an amazing
physique at 6'6" or 7",
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300 pounds.
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- Maybe you people
out there don't realize
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what you're looking at, Daddy.
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But you got 6'7" right here,
a mountain of a man.
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- He looked a little bit
different from everyone else.
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He was very tan.
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He had
the bleached blond hair.
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♪ ♪
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- I just looked at him
and went, wow,
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this guy's gonna...
do something big.
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- Terry worked
very hard to build
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this character that would
capture people's imaginations.
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And he finally settled
on a name that would
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make him a wrestling legend.
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- This,
the Incredible Hulk Hogan.
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[crowd cheering]
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- He went to the top
of the card
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in the early '80s and became
a sensation in the Midwest.
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- The blows by Bockwinkel
having seemingly
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no effect on Hulk Hogan.
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- He sold out arenas.
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- Here's the man.
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Here's the champion.
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- And then
he sold out stadiums.
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That coincided
with Vince McMahon, Jr.,
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taking over the WWF
from his father.
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And Vince McMahon, Jr., turned
his eye to nationalization.
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- The fabulous Hulk Hogan--
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take a look
at this giant of a man.
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- He knew that Hulk Hogan
was the guy
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that he could pitch
his company to
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to make pro wrestling
a household name.
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- Hulk made a deal
with Vince McMahon
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and never came back.
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♪ ♪
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[driving rock music]
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♪ ♪
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- When Vince McMahon, Jr.,
took over wrestling,
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it was about spectacle
and pomp and circumstance.
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Hulk Hogan was the perfect
demonstration of that.
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- Ladies and gentlemen,
Hulk Hogan!
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- We know who the boss is.
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That's the big dude up there.
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And he created the heavens,
the earth, the Hulkamaniacs,
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New York City,
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and the largest arms
in the world, brother.
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- We have got action! Hulk!
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- They love it!
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- Hulkamania--
God, it took over the world.
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[static crackling]
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I would say, at one time,
his level of popularity
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was like--literally
like the Rolling Stones.
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[crowd cheering]
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He was just huge.
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[fabric ripping]
- You're looking
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at a $10-million-a-year
superstar.
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crowd:
Hogan, Hogan.
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- Hulk Hogan's gonna defeat
that mean, nasty giant
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because Hulkamania
is running wild.
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♪ ♪
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- He was the ultimate good guy.
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People loved him.
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- Terry Bollea as Hulk Hogan
transcended wrestling.
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Hulk Hogan
was a household name.
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Now you could watch
the Hulk Hogan cartoon.
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You could eat
the Hulk Hogan cereal.
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You could buy
the Hulk Hogan shirt.
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You could buy
the Hulk Hogan bandanna.
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You could buy the Hulk Hogan
action figure.
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You could buy the Hulk Hogan
home weight set.
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- And then, of course,
the "Rocky" movie
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with Stallone, Thunderlips,
and all that--
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it all came together.
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- Rocky!
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- [yelling]
- Catch me!
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- He got a starring role
in "No Holds Barred."
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And then in 2005,
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he launches his very successful
reality show.
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- "Hogan Knows Best."
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♪ ♪
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- I really think Hulk Hogan
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brought a different element
to wrestling.
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He made it more celebrity.
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[photographers clamoring]
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[camera shutters snapping]
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- People would want to take
pictures and autographs
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while I was in the restroom.
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Or when I was eating dinner,
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a lot of people would come up,
you know.
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At first, it kind of
scared me, you know,
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because I said, my God,
there's nowhere to hide.
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[indistinct chatter]
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- If you're the biggest
all-American hero,
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how can you not become
addicted to attention?
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[cork pops]
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- My God, and it was crazy
with the women.
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We were like rock stars,
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just a different city,
different night,
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different bar.
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[laughs]
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- I personally like
to watch the guys
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roll around on the mat.
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- And they have great bodies.
[laughs]
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- Hulk Hogan was a sex symbol.
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And I think all the females
fancied him.
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- You hit big
in the WWF at that time.
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- Brother...
- Tons of women.
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- Let me tell you something.
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When I did "Rocky III,"
Stallone was single.
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- Uh-huh?
- Right.
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- And we were running
pretty hard back then.
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- Hey, you've got to be
dreaming of those days.
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[laughter]
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- I have no idea what possible
extracurricular activities
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Hulk Hogan was getting up to
when he was on the road.
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But Hogan and Linda remained
married for 24 years,
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up until the very public
breakdown
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of their relationship.
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- I mean, you may not know
who or exactly when,
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but you know that he's
acting different.
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You know that he's,
you know, showing you
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all the signs
of having an affair.
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- You were suspicious then.
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- But this wasn't
the first time.
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I mean, this happened
ten years into our marriage.
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And I kept my mouth shut.
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I don't know where his career
would be today
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had I, you know,
blown the whistle on him then.
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- Would you have put up
with everything had you not
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discovered that Hulk, Terry,
was having an affair
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with your daughter's friend?
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- Just a life full of lies.
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You just say--wake up one day
and go, can I keep going?
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- It's insane having a camera
live on top of you.
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Just some things you don't
want the world to know.
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- We're getting a better idea
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what Hulk Hogan's wife
is looking for
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in the divorce
she's asked for.
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She wants a share
of the family's two
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multimillion-dollar
Florida properties.
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The petition says the marriage
is irretrievably broken.
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- When I went to the house,
every room was empty.
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All my dogs and all
of our animals were gone.
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There were pictures of my
family all over the house.
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And every closet I went in,
all the clothes were gone.
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For so long, I was like
the captain of the ship.
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Now all of a sudden, you know,
I don't even have a ship.
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[somber music]
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- It's just a terrible incident
in his life.
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- You are alone
in your house in Florida.
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You're nursing a combination
of Xanax and rum.
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- Right, right.
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- And this--and you're
holding a gun.
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And you write, "3 pounds.
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"I remember thinking,
3 pounds of pressure
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is all it takes
to pull this thing."
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- Yeah.
- "It would be just so easy."
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- Yeah.
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- Hulk Hogan,
he's in need of support.
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And who does he turn to?
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His old friend,
radio shock jock
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Bubba the Love Sponge.
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- I continue to be myself.
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I continue to be
politically driven,
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opinionated, outspoken,
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controversial, in-your-face,
no-holds-barred.
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- He keeps trying to get you
to go to his house
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and stay there.
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And you were like--
- He wants you--
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he begs you
to come to his house.
253
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- really is in love
with you, isn't he?
254
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- Well, my wife says
we're a couple homos.
255
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[laughter]
256
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- Hogan was staying at Bubba's
house often at this time.
257
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But what came out next
258
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was something
that nobody expected.
259
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A shocking revelation
sets off a domino effect
260
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that would change
Hulk Hogan's world forever.
261
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- And so we're driving home
from the Dollhouse.
262
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And my wife calls me.
263
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And Hogan's down.
264
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And I just told her,
I said, hey, Heather,
265
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have a little sexy outfit on.
266
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And take care of my boy
when we get home.
267
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- Bubba was cheering Hogan on.
268
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And that started
this whole sordid ordeal.
269
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[upbeat music]
270
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- "The Bubba the Love Sponge
Show."
271
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- I don't want
to break the law.
272
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I don't want to--
I just need to know
273
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what the damn law is.
274
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- Bubba the Love Sponge
was a very popular shock jock
275
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in the Florida area.
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- Yeah, it might be.
- It might be too thick.
277
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We'll see.
- Where is the shit?
278
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- Get away, here we go.
279
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[fan rattling]
- Oh!
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♪ ♪
281
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- My name is Mike Waters,
and I worked
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on "The Bubba the Love Sponge
Show,"
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where I spent
most of my career.
284
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Tom the Treeman
is completely unfazed.
285
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Bubba the Love Sponge
is the ultimate shock jock.
286
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- Here we go.
Don't tap out.
287
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- We were just stepping
on landmines constantly.
288
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- You know, now you guys
want my wife
289
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to show her [bleep] hole.
290
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- Hey, you brought it up, man.
291
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- [chuckles]
We were out of control.
292
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- I'm on fire again!
293
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[sharp bang]
Ah!
294
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- We eventually worked our way
up to number one in Tampa.
295
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We dominated for years,
just dominated.
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I don't know
how he got away with it.
297
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[chuckles]
298
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- Let's get you topless
with panties on.
299
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- All right, you can strip me.
- All right.
300
00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:06,033
- We got fined $750,000
because we were too dirty.
301
00:11:06,133 --> 00:11:09,200
Bubba was larger-than-life guy,
amazing talent,
302
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amazingly flawed.
303
00:11:12,433 --> 00:11:13,633
- Whoa, God.
304
00:11:13,733 --> 00:11:15,133
[crowd cheering]
305
00:11:15,233 --> 00:11:17,733
Foley just knocked out
Bubba the Love Sponge.
306
00:11:17,833 --> 00:11:19,033
- Bah-bang.
[chuckles]
307
00:11:19,133 --> 00:11:20,766
- Bubba the Love Sponge
was on the periphery
308
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of pro wrestling,
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00:11:22,366 --> 00:11:25,100
always having pro wrestlers
on his show, especially Hogan.
310
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- Who else can say
they're best friends
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00:11:26,733 --> 00:11:28,200
with the world's
greatest wrestler?
312
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[beep]
Hulk Hogan is on the line.
313
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[echoing]
On the line, on the line.
314
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- What's up, Hootie?
315
00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,500
- Hootie up. What up?
316
00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,500
- Hootie up, Hootie up.
317
00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,700
What are you doing?
318
00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,700
- Oh, man,
that punch in the face
319
00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,400
was like the one heard
around the world.
320
00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,966
- Bubba and Hogan
became good friends.
321
00:11:43,066 --> 00:11:44,266
They're both Florida guys.
322
00:11:44,366 --> 00:11:45,665
[dramatic music]
323
00:11:45,766 --> 00:11:47,266
- First time Hulk Hogan
comes to the show,
324
00:11:47,366 --> 00:11:49,665
you're like,
it's Hulk Hogan.
325
00:11:49,766 --> 00:11:51,966
You know, he's
a monstrously tall guy.
326
00:11:52,066 --> 00:11:54,033
[indistinct chatter]
327
00:11:54,133 --> 00:11:55,600
- Then after, like,
six months, you're like,
328
00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,466
oh, Hogan's coming in again.
329
00:11:57,533 --> 00:11:59,165
[chuckles]
330
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[ominous music]
331
00:12:00,466 --> 00:12:02,066
At the studio,
there were rumors
332
00:12:02,166 --> 00:12:06,400
that Bubba was letting Hogan
sleep with his wife, Heather,
333
00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:08,566
and that, you know,
he was taping it.
334
00:12:08,666 --> 00:12:10,666
[lens whirring]
335
00:12:10,766 --> 00:12:12,333
Certain people have
certain proclivities.
336
00:12:12,433 --> 00:12:15,200
I think he was just
a big voyeur.
337
00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:17,666
- My best friend
[bleep] my wife
338
00:12:17,766 --> 00:12:19,533
is not that big a deal to me.
339
00:12:20,666 --> 00:12:23,700
- This was one of the craziest
cases that I reported on.
340
00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,100
[keys clacking]
341
00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,800
Hulk had sex with Heather
on a number of occasions.
342
00:12:30,766 --> 00:12:35,466
And Bubba had a camera
set up in the bedroom.
343
00:12:35,566 --> 00:12:38,433
And so there were these three
sex tapes of Hulk Hogan.
344
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♪ ♪
345
00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,700
[somber music]
346
00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,200
♪ ♪
347
00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:48,633
- Bubba was having trouble
with his wife, Heather.
348
00:12:48,733 --> 00:12:50,933
And they eventually
got divorced.
349
00:12:51,033 --> 00:12:53,700
And his claim was that
he took these DVDs,
350
00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,700
and he was keeping them in his
office at work for safekeeping
351
00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,633
because he didn't trust his
wife to not get ahold of them
352
00:12:59,733 --> 00:13:01,366
and try to profit off of them.
353
00:13:01,466 --> 00:13:05,200
- But apparently, one
of his disgruntled employees
354
00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:08,100
allegedly stole the tapes.
355
00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,566
At the time, Bubba did not
realize that they were stolen.
356
00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:15,300
He only found out when
a gossip website, The Dirty,
357
00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,666
published a screenshot
358
00:13:17,766 --> 00:13:20,266
from one of the Hulk Hogan
sex tapes
359
00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:22,233
in early 2012.
360
00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:25,333
It caused a sensation online.
361
00:13:25,433 --> 00:13:29,466
TMZ picked up on it, and it
set the internet shattering.
362
00:13:29,566 --> 00:13:34,300
Bubba suspected
that Matt Loyd, AKA Spice Boy,
363
00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,633
stole the tapes.
364
00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:39,333
- We were at 102.5 The Bone
at that time.
365
00:13:39,433 --> 00:13:41,233
And there was a lot
of animosity in the building
366
00:13:41,333 --> 00:13:43,700
between Spice Boy, who left
the show and did nights.
367
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,366
He wanted to wash
his hands of Bubba
368
00:13:45,466 --> 00:13:47,433
'cause Bubba had made him do
a lot of things in the past
369
00:13:47,533 --> 00:13:49,133
that I don't think
he was proud of.
370
00:13:50,966 --> 00:13:53,433
So when Spice Boy
got the DVD,
371
00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:55,566
I don't know if he knew what
he had in his hands or not.
372
00:13:55,665 --> 00:13:57,200
But when he popped it
in the DVD
373
00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:59,466
and he saw the one and only
Hulk Hogan,
374
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he was probably like,
this is the meal ticket.
375
00:14:01,866 --> 00:14:04,700
[ominous music]
376
00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,633
The day that it came out
in the news,
377
00:14:06,733 --> 00:14:08,900
you know, Bubba was like,
oh, my God.
378
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,166
You know, I can't believe
this is happening.
379
00:14:11,266 --> 00:14:13,366
- When the first pictures
leaked out,
380
00:14:13,466 --> 00:14:14,633
I asked my best friend.
381
00:14:14,733 --> 00:14:16,366
And he goes, oh, I had
nothing to do with this.
382
00:14:16,466 --> 00:14:18,266
I'm praying to God
he's not involved.
383
00:14:18,366 --> 00:14:21,533
- After Matt initially
leaked it to The Dirty,
384
00:14:21,633 --> 00:14:23,833
then it makes its way
to Gawker.
385
00:14:23,933 --> 00:14:27,400
♪ ♪
386
00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:30,500
- Gawker at the time
was mostly reporting gossip.
387
00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,100
And then it grew from there
388
00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,400
to be its own
independent news operation
389
00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:38,000
that was a site where you
could get the real story.
390
00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:39,866
- You get an unfiltered,
sort of the way
391
00:14:39,966 --> 00:14:42,700
that people perceive
celebrities in real time
392
00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,866
that you don't get
from any other media.
393
00:14:44,933 --> 00:14:48,266
- Nick Denton, he runs
a website called gawker.com.
394
00:14:48,366 --> 00:14:49,733
He said that immediacy
395
00:14:49,833 --> 00:14:51,866
and humor are more important
than accuracy.
396
00:14:51,966 --> 00:14:54,533
And he said, if that means
a lawsuit, great.
397
00:14:54,633 --> 00:14:57,700
[frenetic music]
398
00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,066
- We viewed ourselves
as pirates. [chuckles]
399
00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:02,566
Like, you know, kind of
hoist the black flag
400
00:15:02,666 --> 00:15:03,900
and start slitting throats.
401
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,633
♪ ♪
402
00:15:05,733 --> 00:15:09,300
One of the chief offerings
that Gawker had to our readers
403
00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,000
was that it was the place
where you could say
404
00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:12,433
what no one else would say,
405
00:15:12,533 --> 00:15:14,166
what every other newsroom
406
00:15:14,266 --> 00:15:18,500
was either too conflicted
or too scared to say.
407
00:15:18,566 --> 00:15:21,633
The one overarching thing
that Nick would repeat
408
00:15:21,733 --> 00:15:23,566
was that Gawker was a place
409
00:15:23,666 --> 00:15:25,700
where you would not
get in trouble
410
00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,900
for what you did publish.
411
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,166
You'd get in trouble
for what you didn't publish.
412
00:15:31,266 --> 00:15:34,333
- Gawker.com was a place where
everyone pushed each other,
413
00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:36,933
like, to see who could push
the envelope the furthest,
414
00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:39,033
who could write the story
that other people
415
00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:40,766
were incapable of writing.
416
00:15:40,866 --> 00:15:42,266
- We were driven by traffic.
417
00:15:42,366 --> 00:15:44,366
We got bonuses if we exceeded
our traffic targets.
418
00:15:44,466 --> 00:15:47,600
So there was a real intense
game of,
419
00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:50,433
how do you find posts
that are gonna go viral?
420
00:15:52,566 --> 00:15:55,400
By 2012, it was
like a media trope.
421
00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,366
There were these sort of
B-list celebrity
422
00:15:58,466 --> 00:16:00,000
sex tapes floating around.
423
00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:02,100
It was like a gross,
funny thing--
424
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,566
Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian.
425
00:16:04,666 --> 00:16:06,300
- Everyone knows
the tape is out there.
426
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,466
But what they want to know
is when they'll
427
00:16:08,566 --> 00:16:10,566
actually be able to see it.
428
00:16:10,666 --> 00:16:12,933
- And at that point,
there wasn't a discourse
429
00:16:13,033 --> 00:16:15,100
around revenge porn.
430
00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,066
It wasn't a thing
that was really
431
00:16:17,166 --> 00:16:18,800
on the minds of most people
432
00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:21,933
who are either producing
or consuming these tapes.
433
00:16:22,033 --> 00:16:23,266
It was just a--
434
00:16:23,366 --> 00:16:25,100
almost a genre of story.
435
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,233
- And that's your Paris Hilton
sex tape forecast.
436
00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:28,466
Back to you, Conan.
437
00:16:28,566 --> 00:16:30,433
- There were a bunch
of stories for months
438
00:16:30,533 --> 00:16:32,000
about this sex tape
439
00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:33,633
with Hulk Hogan
that was going around.
440
00:16:33,733 --> 00:16:37,233
And he was a--
kind of a comical,
441
00:16:37,333 --> 00:16:39,566
pathetic figure from the past.
442
00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:42,100
- There was a source
that had emailed me
443
00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,500
and said that a client
of his has a package
444
00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,733
that he wants to send to me.
445
00:16:45,833 --> 00:16:47,333
- I mean, he was
like a washed-up
446
00:16:47,433 --> 00:16:48,866
former wrestling star.
447
00:16:48,966 --> 00:16:50,300
It was a little bit like,
what are we
448
00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,366
gonna do with this thing?
449
00:16:51,466 --> 00:16:53,366
♪ ♪
450
00:16:57,700 --> 00:16:59,033
- Tonight
the Showbiz Countdown--
451
00:16:59,133 --> 00:17:00,400
Hulk Hogan's sex tape.
452
00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:02,200
- I'm coming to New York
to talk about a wrestling tour
453
00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:03,400
and our new time slot.
454
00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:04,566
And all of a sudden...
[crowd booing]
455
00:17:04,665 --> 00:17:05,800
[glass shattering]
456
00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:08,032
- Gawker posted
clips of the sex tape
457
00:17:08,133 --> 00:17:10,665
in all of its
pornographic glory.
458
00:17:10,766 --> 00:17:13,566
- This is a shameless display
by Gawker.
459
00:17:13,665 --> 00:17:16,566
[tense music]
460
00:17:16,665 --> 00:17:18,465
Who do they think they are?
461
00:17:18,566 --> 00:17:21,133
♪ ♪
462
00:17:21,233 --> 00:17:23,433
- The way A.J. answered
the question was,
463
00:17:23,532 --> 00:17:26,633
he actually wrote this essay
on the experience
464
00:17:26,733 --> 00:17:30,733
of what it's like to watch
a celebrity sex tape
465
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,033
of this person who was a hero
of yours when you were a kid.
466
00:17:35,133 --> 00:17:37,766
- I had no problem doing that
because it wasn't really
467
00:17:37,866 --> 00:17:40,333
about the sex portion
of the tape
468
00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:41,466
that I was actually interested.
469
00:17:41,566 --> 00:17:43,933
I had to show
that the sex existed.
470
00:17:44,033 --> 00:17:45,800
I did that
as little as possible.
471
00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:50,000
And mostly, that was
just to really lead
472
00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:53,833
into what was probably one
of the best essays
473
00:17:53,933 --> 00:17:56,066
I've ever written, actually,
in my life.
474
00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:59,666
- It was a sort of commentary
on this culture of sex tapes
475
00:17:59,766 --> 00:18:01,533
that we were finding
ourselves in.
476
00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:05,300
So we published 90 seconds
or thereabouts, which had,
477
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,133
like, a little bit
of actual sex in it.
478
00:18:08,233 --> 00:18:10,000
And it went crazy.
479
00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:12,966
- Here you have
basically an American icon
480
00:18:13,066 --> 00:18:16,233
who's on camera
naked and having sex.
481
00:18:16,333 --> 00:18:18,033
Why wouldn't people want
to click on it,
482
00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:20,433
especially
if it's on a free website?
483
00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,033
- Hogan is being slammed
by Gawker.
484
00:18:23,133 --> 00:18:24,766
1 million hits.
485
00:18:24,866 --> 00:18:26,333
- How about that sex tape?
486
00:18:26,433 --> 00:18:27,600
- 5 million.
487
00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:29,533
- That was just like
his in-ring wrestling--
488
00:18:29,633 --> 00:18:31,300
three moves
and a shitty finish.
489
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,100
[laughter]
490
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,166
- 7 million hits
on the sex tape.
491
00:18:36,266 --> 00:18:37,700
The public can't get enough.
492
00:18:37,766 --> 00:18:41,700
- This was
the complete undermining
493
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,400
of the idea of Hulk Hogan
as a mythos.
494
00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:48,133
- It's the worst thing I've
ever been through, bar none.
495
00:18:50,366 --> 00:18:53,266
[dramatic music]
496
00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:55,966
♪ ♪
497
00:18:56,066 --> 00:19:00,000
- Hulk Hogan will take
all reasonable steps
498
00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:05,200
necessary to ensure that all
persons and entities
499
00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:07,466
who were involved in this
are punished
500
00:19:07,566 --> 00:19:09,866
to the fullest extent
of the law.
501
00:19:09,933 --> 00:19:12,666
- Hulk Hogan speaking out
today for the very first time
502
00:19:12,766 --> 00:19:16,033
about the sex tape of him
that just surfaced online,
503
00:19:16,133 --> 00:19:20,500
where he's having sex with the
then-wife of his best friend.
504
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,333
- I never really imagined I'd
see Hulk Hogan's erect penis.
505
00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:26,833
It's not something
that Gawker needed to post.
506
00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:28,266
[ominous music]
507
00:19:28,366 --> 00:19:33,566
- That was very hurtful,
really hurtful for Hulk.
508
00:19:33,666 --> 00:19:34,700
- Got to tell you,
I actually
509
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,166
feel really badly for Hulk.
510
00:19:36,266 --> 00:19:38,900
It looks like he was completely
blindsided by something
511
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,033
that happened a long time ago.
512
00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:42,466
And really,
when you think about it,
513
00:19:42,566 --> 00:19:45,366
obviously, such an incredible
invasion of privacy.
514
00:19:45,466 --> 00:19:49,400
- When the tape was released,
I don't think there was really
515
00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:51,800
a pro wrestling fan
who didn't at least
516
00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:53,800
click on it out of curiosity
517
00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:56,900
because Hulk Hogan was a
household name at that point.
518
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,700
It was definitely
a bombshell in pop culture.
519
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:06,366
♪ ♪
520
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,000
- I'm going full blown
to try to find out
521
00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:10,666
who did this to me and why.
522
00:20:10,766 --> 00:20:14,233
- The first time I heard about
the sex tape was on the news.
523
00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:16,400
Who would do that to Terry?
524
00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:19,866
He's married.
He's got children.
525
00:20:19,966 --> 00:20:21,433
- So I called Bubba,
and I said,
526
00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:22,533
you're my best friend,
brother.
527
00:20:22,633 --> 00:20:24,133
Please tell me
if you did this,
528
00:20:24,233 --> 00:20:25,333
because if you didn't do this,
529
00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:26,733
I love you forever.
530
00:20:26,833 --> 00:20:28,433
If you did this,
we were never friends.
531
00:20:28,533 --> 00:20:31,766
- Terry Bollea had spent
his entire career,
532
00:20:31,866 --> 00:20:35,033
his entire life fabricating
533
00:20:35,133 --> 00:20:37,800
the idea of Hulk Hogan.
534
00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,133
And in one fell swoop,
535
00:20:40,233 --> 00:20:42,733
that entire illusion
was shattered.
536
00:20:42,833 --> 00:20:43,966
- At the end of the day,
537
00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:45,233
at a really weak moment,
538
00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:46,766
I made a wrong decision.
539
00:20:46,866 --> 00:20:48,966
♪ ♪
540
00:20:49,066 --> 00:20:52,000
- Gawker got takedown requests
all the time.
541
00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:53,466
But it's newsworthy material,
542
00:20:53,566 --> 00:20:54,866
and it's protected
by the First Amendment,
543
00:20:54,966 --> 00:20:56,633
and we're gonna keep it up.
544
00:20:56,733 --> 00:20:59,200
- You know, this is a crime.
It's a felony.
545
00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:00,900
You know, there's supposed
to be two-party consent
546
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,300
when you film anything
sexually.
547
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,866
I had no idea
the cameras were there.
548
00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:06,400
- Hulk Hogan's privacy rights
were invaded.
549
00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,966
It's wrong for a media company
550
00:21:09,066 --> 00:21:11,200
to take footage
that was secretly filmed
551
00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:12,900
in a private bedroom,
552
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,200
showing a person
without their clothes on
553
00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:17,433
and engaged in adult activity,
554
00:21:17,533 --> 00:21:19,866
and to let the world
watch that.
555
00:21:19,966 --> 00:21:22,233
- Denton argues Hogan
made his sex life
556
00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:24,266
part of his public persona.
557
00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:27,633
Gawker says that's fair game
for the press to cover.
558
00:21:27,733 --> 00:21:29,500
- We wouldn't stay married
for 22 years
559
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,800
if he sucked in bed, so...
560
00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:31,866
- Yeah, he knows
what he's doing.
561
00:21:31,966 --> 00:21:33,433
- He's good.
- He can deliver it.
562
00:21:33,533 --> 00:21:36,666
♪ ♪
563
00:21:36,766 --> 00:21:40,866
- I understand why
A.J. Daulerio posted it.
564
00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,800
But, like, even by the time
Gawker published that,
565
00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:44,433
there was this sort of,
you know,
566
00:21:44,533 --> 00:21:46,766
growing queasiness
around sex tapes
567
00:21:46,866 --> 00:21:49,066
and, like, people publishing
that kind of stuff.
568
00:21:49,166 --> 00:21:50,800
- Just because of one
incident one night
569
00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:54,200
with someone who I was
in love with, people assume,
570
00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:55,733
oh, she's a slut.
571
00:21:55,833 --> 00:21:57,966
I don't know, it's something
that's changed my life forever.
572
00:21:58,066 --> 00:21:59,533
- Not only for Hulk Hogan
573
00:21:59,633 --> 00:22:02,600
but also for Terry Bollea
the person,
574
00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:05,900
the damage done by the release
of the sex tape
575
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,900
was such that it was
a humiliation of him,
576
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,500
damaging to his reputation,
577
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,066
a smear on his character.
578
00:22:12,166 --> 00:22:14,033
And all these things are true.
579
00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:17,200
- Never have I ever
been this embarrassed.
580
00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,633
And never has my world
been turned upside down
581
00:22:19,733 --> 00:22:20,933
in such a fashion.
582
00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:24,366
- If I had been
the editor of gawker.com,
583
00:22:24,466 --> 00:22:25,866
I would not have posted that.
584
00:22:25,966 --> 00:22:27,233
So...
585
00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:29,333
♪ ♪
586
00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:31,366
- Are you any nearer
to knowing who betrayed you?
587
00:22:31,466 --> 00:22:32,866
- At this point, no.
588
00:22:32,966 --> 00:22:35,533
- The story of the Hulk Hogan
sex tapes is more convoluted
589
00:22:35,633 --> 00:22:38,133
than many of the pro wrestling
storylines you might see.
590
00:22:38,233 --> 00:22:41,100
But nobody expected
who he'd have to fight next.
591
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,900
[intense music]
592
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,033
- After Matt Loyd has stolen
593
00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:50,433
these DVDs from Bubba's office
594
00:22:50,533 --> 00:22:52,566
and it made it to Gawker,
595
00:22:52,666 --> 00:22:55,700
he reaches out
to a California attorney
596
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,366
named Keith Davidson, who is
sort of known in the industry
597
00:22:58,466 --> 00:23:02,700
as a guy who can sell
or buy sex tapes.
598
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,833
And they come up
with this scheme
599
00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:10,700
to try and sell the tapes
back to Hulk Hogan
600
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,600
because they knew
that Hulk Hogan
601
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,366
was very concerned
that there might be
602
00:23:15,466 --> 00:23:17,800
even more damaging tapes
out there.
603
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:20,366
- Hogan's getting hit
with more tapes?
604
00:23:20,466 --> 00:23:21,933
Just how many are there?
605
00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:25,366
♪ ♪
606
00:23:25,466 --> 00:23:28,700
[ominous music]
607
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,666
- Hogan, who was supposed to
be promoting Impact Wrestling,
608
00:23:31,766 --> 00:23:33,966
was instead doing
damage control,
609
00:23:34,066 --> 00:23:35,466
fielding questions
about his marriage
610
00:23:35,566 --> 00:23:37,100
to his second wife, Jennifer.
611
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:39,366
- Are you afraid your marriage
won't survive this?
612
00:23:39,466 --> 00:23:42,566
- I have never seen
anybody hurt this bad
613
00:23:42,666 --> 00:23:44,600
or flipped upside down
like this.
614
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:47,700
So it's the worst thing I've
ever been through, bar none.
615
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,966
- But even as he's out there
616
00:23:49,066 --> 00:23:50,566
fighting to keep his life
together,
617
00:23:50,666 --> 00:23:54,066
that very same day,
Keith Davidson reaches out
618
00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:59,566
to Hulk Hogan's personal
attorney/fixer, David Houston,
619
00:23:59,666 --> 00:24:01,233
and says,
620
00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:04,700
my client has come
into possession of three tapes
621
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,133
that we think Hulk Hogan might
be interested in purchasing.
622
00:24:09,233 --> 00:24:11,300
Let's start the bidding
at $1 million.
623
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,166
♪ ♪
624
00:24:14,266 --> 00:24:18,600
In response to that,
David Houston goes to the FBI.
625
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,000
And the FBI says,
keep talking to them.
626
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,300
We will record the calls.
627
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,400
♪ ♪
628
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,400
[dramatic music]
629
00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,400
♪ ♪
630
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:43,600
- David Houston, Hulk Hogan's
personal attorney,
631
00:24:43,666 --> 00:24:46,666
and sex tape broker
Keith Davidson
632
00:24:46,766 --> 00:24:49,300
agree to meet
633
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,566
in Florida
at the Sandpearl Hotel
634
00:24:53,666 --> 00:24:56,533
and actually exchange
the original copies
635
00:24:56,633 --> 00:24:59,766
of the tapes for $300,000.
636
00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:01,233
The hotel room is bugged.
637
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,333
David Houston
is wearing a wire.
638
00:25:03,433 --> 00:25:06,133
The FBI is in
the room next door.
639
00:25:06,233 --> 00:25:08,200
And then Keith Davidson
enters.
640
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,833
♪ ♪
641
00:25:20,433 --> 00:25:23,433
♪ ♪
642
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:32,166
- Then Keith Davidson goes
to bring in his client, Lori.
643
00:25:32,266 --> 00:25:34,400
Keith Davidson said,
she's kind of an intermediary
644
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,900
for this other guy, Mr. X.
645
00:25:58,666 --> 00:26:01,700
- David Houston says, look,
we have to watch the tapes.
646
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,100
We have to make sure
this is real.
647
00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:09,400
♪ ♪
648
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,333
- There was something
on the tapes
649
00:26:15,433 --> 00:26:18,333
that Terry Bollea didn't want
to be revealed to the public
650
00:26:18,433 --> 00:26:20,833
because he knew
it would destroy
651
00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:23,700
his reputation as Hulk Hogan.
652
00:26:25,133 --> 00:26:27,100
So then they hand over
the check,
653
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,200
and the FBI bursts in.
654
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:32,166
- It's an FBI Royal Rumble.
655
00:26:32,266 --> 00:26:33,633
[intense rock music]
656
00:26:33,733 --> 00:26:36,233
- Keith Davidson
and Lori, the intermediary,
657
00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:37,700
are arrested.
658
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,866
And she says,
I'm representing Matt Loyd.
659
00:26:40,966 --> 00:26:44,266
- The FBI is really
bringing the heat.
660
00:26:44,366 --> 00:26:46,800
♪ ♪
661
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:50,166
After that FBI tag team,
Hogan can turn his attention
662
00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:51,733
back to the main event.
663
00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:56,466
And this is one fight
he's not gonna back down from.
664
00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:59,266
[discordant music]
665
00:26:59,366 --> 00:27:01,900
- Hulk Hogan filed
two lawsuits today.
666
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,533
The first lawsuit was filed
against Heather Clem
667
00:27:04,633 --> 00:27:07,566
and her ex-husband,
Bubba the Love Sponge.
668
00:27:07,666 --> 00:27:09,833
Approximately six years ago,
669
00:27:09,933 --> 00:27:13,366
the Clems secretly videotaped
Mr. Hogan
670
00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:17,033
having private, consensual
intimate relations
671
00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:18,433
in a private bedroom.
672
00:27:18,533 --> 00:27:20,600
The second lawsuit filed today
673
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:22,233
was against Gawker Media.
674
00:27:22,333 --> 00:27:24,966
It alleges that the defendants
posted excerpts
675
00:27:25,066 --> 00:27:28,500
of the videotape
at their website, gawker.com.
676
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,466
[somber music]
677
00:27:31,566 --> 00:27:33,133
♪ ♪
678
00:27:33,233 --> 00:27:35,966
- In 2014,
Nick Denton still believed
679
00:27:36,066 --> 00:27:38,533
that he would be able to reach
a settlement with Hogan.
680
00:27:38,633 --> 00:27:40,733
But it gradually
became clear that this
681
00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:42,800
was a real risk to Gawker.
682
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:44,200
- And you realize,
well, wait a minute.
683
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:47,700
Wait, this was supposed
to settle, and it's not.
684
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,700
And there's a trial date.
That's happening?
685
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,100
[crowd cheering]
686
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,166
- Hulk Hogan was not
just after money.
687
00:27:54,266 --> 00:27:56,600
Most people who sue
media companies want money.
688
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,333
They don't necessarily want
to punish the media outlets.
689
00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:01,233
So, like, something was off
about the whole thing.
690
00:28:01,333 --> 00:28:04,166
There was a rumor going
around Tampa that someone
691
00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,066
is bankrolling Hulk Hogan.
692
00:28:07,166 --> 00:28:09,066
[crowd cheering and whistling]
693
00:28:09,166 --> 00:28:10,400
♪ ♪
694
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:14,466
- We later found out
Peter Thiel was behind it.
695
00:28:14,566 --> 00:28:16,233
♪ ♪
696
00:28:16,333 --> 00:28:19,733
- PayPal cofounder Peter Thiel
has now been reported
697
00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:22,466
as the man
who has been financing
698
00:28:22,566 --> 00:28:25,466
media wars
against Gawker Media.
699
00:28:25,566 --> 00:28:28,700
- Peter Thiel first started
to form his vendetta
700
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,633
against Gawker
because in 2007,
701
00:28:30,733 --> 00:28:32,633
Gawker wrote a post saying,
702
00:28:32,733 --> 00:28:34,600
"Peter Thiel is totally gay,
people."
703
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:37,466
- The point of that post is,
there's an open secret
704
00:28:37,533 --> 00:28:39,666
about Peter Thiel
that no one talks about
705
00:28:39,766 --> 00:28:41,366
that everybody knows.
706
00:28:41,466 --> 00:28:45,200
He lives a life as a gay man
in Silicon Valley.
707
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,633
- Back around that time,
that was still kind of
708
00:28:47,733 --> 00:28:49,433
a pretty spicy thing to do.
709
00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:53,266
- They were a singularly
sociopathic bully.
710
00:28:53,366 --> 00:28:54,666
And there were many people
that did things
711
00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:56,633
far worse than me.
712
00:28:56,733 --> 00:28:58,833
And so, you know, I was
convinced that if I didn't
713
00:28:58,933 --> 00:29:00,666
do something, nobody would.
714
00:29:00,766 --> 00:29:03,700
- Hogan's secret financier,
Peter Thiel,
715
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,366
had turned us into
public enemy number one.
716
00:29:05,466 --> 00:29:09,433
He was the most vindictive man
in Silicon Valley,
717
00:29:09,533 --> 00:29:10,833
and he wanted our blood.
718
00:29:12,866 --> 00:29:15,733
[dramatic music]
719
00:29:15,833 --> 00:29:16,800
♪ ♪
720
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,300
- I was one of the jurors.
721
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,500
And I remember them telling us
it involved Hulk Hogan.
722
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,566
And I kind of had that eye-roll
attitude, like, oh, no,
723
00:29:23,666 --> 00:29:24,833
here we go again, you know?
724
00:29:24,933 --> 00:29:27,500
Another Hollywood sex tape.
725
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,300
I was very nervous.
726
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,033
I mean, it's not like
it's life or death.
727
00:29:32,133 --> 00:29:33,666
But it was a huge deal.
728
00:29:33,766 --> 00:29:35,866
- Gawker founder
Nick Denton argues
729
00:29:35,966 --> 00:29:38,100
the case is really about
whether celebrities
730
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,600
can use the courts
to intimidate reporters.
731
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:44,400
- This is where celebrities'
desire to control their image,
732
00:29:44,466 --> 00:29:46,333
to manage their own business,
733
00:29:46,433 --> 00:29:47,633
the business
of their image,
734
00:29:47,733 --> 00:29:49,800
comes into conflict
with our business,
735
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,133
which is to put out
the real story.
736
00:29:52,233 --> 00:29:54,700
- The reason that they
posted this and the reason
737
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,633
that they kept it up--
738
00:29:57,733 --> 00:30:00,100
power and profit.
739
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600
- Hulk Hogan's entire claim
was based on
740
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,166
not being aware
of the recording.
741
00:30:04,266 --> 00:30:06,966
- When you were having
these sexual encounters
742
00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:09,833
with Heather, you testified
that you had no knowledge
743
00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:11,733
you were being recorded, right?
744
00:30:11,833 --> 00:30:13,066
- Yes, sir.
745
00:30:13,166 --> 00:30:15,000
- Bubba the Love Sponge
had made
746
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,200
public statements
that Hulk Hogan
747
00:30:17,266 --> 00:30:19,566
knew he was being recorded.
748
00:30:19,666 --> 00:30:21,400
So we want to call
Bubba the Love Sponge
749
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,666
to testify.
750
00:30:23,766 --> 00:30:26,400
But Bubba pleads
the Fifth Amendment:
751
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,766
I'm not gonna testify
'cause I might be
752
00:30:28,866 --> 00:30:30,733
implicating myself in crimes.
753
00:30:30,833 --> 00:30:33,066
- Bubba the Love Sponge
never took the stand.
754
00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:36,500
Refusing to testify was a
real blow to Gawker's defense
755
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,066
because his testimony would
have called into question
756
00:30:39,166 --> 00:30:42,066
Hogan's claim that he didn't
know he was being recorded.
757
00:30:42,166 --> 00:30:43,733
- Nothing in the trial
had gone right for us,
758
00:30:43,833 --> 00:30:45,600
and everything had gone wrong.
759
00:30:46,566 --> 00:30:48,333
- When Hulk Hogan
first took the stand,
760
00:30:48,433 --> 00:30:50,433
I almost got emotional
and overwhelmed,
761
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:53,900
because nobody should have
to fight for their privacy.
762
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,133
- And this tape
totally sabotaged me.
763
00:30:56,233 --> 00:30:59,000
Just my demeanor, I just felt
like I was turned inside.
764
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:00,533
It was just
constantly on my mind.
765
00:31:00,633 --> 00:31:02,700
It's just--it's just like
this overhanging cloud
766
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,333
that will not lighten up.
767
00:31:05,433 --> 00:31:07,100
[static crackling]
- In a case like this,
768
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,733
if something is newsworthy,
769
00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:10,566
the courts have to protect it.
770
00:31:10,666 --> 00:31:14,266
But on the other hand,
even First Amendment freedoms
771
00:31:14,366 --> 00:31:16,000
are lessened somewhat
when we're dealing
772
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:19,066
with private facts
about people's private lives.
773
00:31:19,166 --> 00:31:21,866
- Our position was,
you're a public figure.
774
00:31:21,966 --> 00:31:24,766
You can't claim an invasion
of your privacy and then also
775
00:31:24,866 --> 00:31:27,633
go out there
and invite people to peer
776
00:31:27,733 --> 00:31:29,766
into your private sexual life.
777
00:31:29,866 --> 00:31:31,366
- Does your wife
give you third input?
778
00:31:31,466 --> 00:31:33,600
- Oh, God.
- Oh, third, fourth, fifths.
779
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:35,166
- Really?
- [chuckles] Yeah.
780
00:31:35,266 --> 00:31:37,833
- Hulk Hogan got on the stand
and insisted
781
00:31:37,933 --> 00:31:40,700
that even though Hulk Hogan
782
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,033
was happy to boast
about his sex life
783
00:31:43,133 --> 00:31:44,966
and didn't care
about his privacy,
784
00:31:45,066 --> 00:31:49,033
Terry Bollea did care
about his privacy.
785
00:31:49,133 --> 00:31:52,466
And this was the sex tape
of Terry Bollea,
786
00:31:52,566 --> 00:31:55,466
not Hulk Hogan,
the character that he played.
787
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,266
- No, I--[chuckles]
What the [bleep] are we doing?
788
00:31:59,366 --> 00:32:01,033
Like--like, come on.
789
00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:03,533
- It was absolutely insane.
790
00:32:03,633 --> 00:32:05,400
- Well, as Hulk Hogan,
you know,
791
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,400
I've said I slammed an elephant
792
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:11,033
and surfed on a tiger shark
and, you know,
793
00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:12,400
body-slammed Moby-Dick.
794
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,900
So it's--it gives you
artistic liberty,
795
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,133
when you're Hulk Hogan,
to be a character.
796
00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:19,966
And it's entertainment.
797
00:32:20,066 --> 00:32:22,133
- I felt like I was in
a police interrogation.
798
00:32:22,233 --> 00:32:25,000
They were just badgering him
about switching
799
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,466
back and forth from Hulk Hogan
to Terry Bollea.
800
00:32:27,566 --> 00:32:30,533
- So when you are
in Hulk Hogan mode,
801
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,666
rules and things like telling
the truth do not apply?
802
00:32:34,766 --> 00:32:37,133
- When he was on radio shows
in the character of Hulk Hogan,
803
00:32:37,233 --> 00:32:40,166
he would talk very openly
about the size of his penis.
804
00:32:40,266 --> 00:32:41,966
- Do you have any doubt,
805
00:32:42,066 --> 00:32:44,833
as you sit
in that witness stand today,
806
00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:48,400
that you were discussing
the length of your penis
807
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,633
on Bubba's radio program?
808
00:32:50,733 --> 00:32:54,500
- Well, it's not mine,
because mine isn't that size.
809
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,166
But we were discussing
the length of Hulk Hogan's.
810
00:32:58,266 --> 00:33:01,233
- Seriously?
So you--
811
00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:03,833
- No, seriously, I do not have
a 10-inch penis.
812
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:04,833
No, I do not, seriously.
813
00:33:04,933 --> 00:33:06,400
- OK, fair enough.
814
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:07,733
- They couldn't wrap
their head around it.
815
00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:08,900
Hulk Hogan's a character.
816
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,333
But Terry Bollea
is a human being.
817
00:33:11,433 --> 00:33:14,200
He gets overwhelmed and hurt,
just like the rest of us.
818
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:17,733
- Did you give consideration
to plaintiff's privacy
819
00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:21,300
before you published
the video excerpt?
820
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,933
- Given the fact that he's
a public figure, I did not.
821
00:33:27,033 --> 00:33:28,200
♪ ♪
822
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:32,566
- They opened up
all of these questions about
823
00:33:32,666 --> 00:33:35,133
people's privacy,
about celebrity,
824
00:33:35,233 --> 00:33:38,966
about what is acceptable
to pry into and what isn't.
825
00:33:39,066 --> 00:33:44,166
- Do you think that celebrities
have no right to be let alone,
826
00:33:44,266 --> 00:33:46,400
say, even in their own homes?
827
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,300
- I think it's limited
at this point.
828
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,800
But, you know, public figures
live a different life.
829
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,400
- You know,
when the Pamela Anderson
830
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,000
sex tape came out,
831
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,766
there was just no
real consideration
832
00:33:59,866 --> 00:34:04,900
about how that affected her
as a person, as a mother.
833
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,266
There was definitely
a lot more understanding
834
00:34:07,366 --> 00:34:10,800
when the Hulk Hogan sex
tape came out about, yeah,
835
00:34:10,866 --> 00:34:12,766
you can't really
do these things.
836
00:34:12,866 --> 00:34:14,266
- I don't care
if he's a celebrity.
837
00:34:14,366 --> 00:34:16,300
I don't care if he's
on every TV show,
838
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,333
every radio show talking
about sex, being salacious.
839
00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:21,800
That does not give them
the right to do what they did.
840
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:24,933
And I hope this jury
sympathizes with him.
841
00:34:25,033 --> 00:34:27,933
[discordant music]
842
00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:30,199
♪ ♪
843
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,433
[heartbeat thumping]
844
00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:34,166
- I was in Gawker's offices.
845
00:34:34,266 --> 00:34:35,266
Everyone came in.
846
00:34:35,366 --> 00:34:37,132
The office was filled.
847
00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:40,800
And everyone was watching
a live stream together.
848
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:42,433
♪ ♪
849
00:34:42,533 --> 00:34:46,866
- I don't think, even then,
anyone quite, like,
850
00:34:46,966 --> 00:34:49,065
realized that the trial
was potentially
851
00:34:49,166 --> 00:34:50,565
existential for Gawker.
852
00:34:50,666 --> 00:34:53,632
- We presumed
that we were protected.
853
00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:55,533
♪ ♪
854
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,666
- When the verdict was read,
855
00:35:02,766 --> 00:35:05,966
everyone kind of was in shock,
I think.
856
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,300
[dramatic string music]
857
00:35:22,166 --> 00:35:24,566
[crowd cheering]
858
00:35:32,866 --> 00:35:36,366
- We decided to award
Hulk Hogan $140 million.
859
00:35:36,466 --> 00:35:39,366
- He's done it,
ladies and gentlemen.
860
00:35:39,466 --> 00:35:41,700
♪ ♪
861
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600
- A sex tape is not something
I find newsworthy.
862
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:45,900
I don't want to see it.
863
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,366
I don't need to see it.
864
00:35:47,466 --> 00:35:48,366
- How you feel, Hulk?
865
00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:49,733
- I feel great.
866
00:35:49,833 --> 00:35:51,500
I'm really happy about
everything that's happened.
867
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,066
And I think
we made history today
868
00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:56,733
because I think
we protected a lot of people
869
00:35:56,833 --> 00:35:59,700
from maybe going through
what I went through.
870
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,366
So we're very excited
and very happy.
871
00:36:01,466 --> 00:36:04,400
♪ ♪
872
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:06,166
- I mean, we were stunned.
873
00:36:06,266 --> 00:36:08,100
It was gobsmacking.
874
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,033
[dramatic music]
875
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:12,833
- Nothing at Gawker was going
to be the same after that.
876
00:36:12,933 --> 00:36:14,500
♪ ♪
877
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,266
- The online
media company Gawker
878
00:36:16,366 --> 00:36:17,766
is on the auction block
this morning.
879
00:36:17,866 --> 00:36:19,500
The company filed for
bankruptcy just three months
880
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000
after losing
that invasion-of-privacy case
881
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,033
involving ex-wrestler
Hulk Hogan.
882
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,066
[static crackling]
883
00:36:26,166 --> 00:36:29,066
- The Hulk Hogan trial
was not about Hulk Hogan.
884
00:36:29,166 --> 00:36:32,033
The object of the trial
was to destroy Gawker.
885
00:36:32,133 --> 00:36:35,000
Peter Thiel has determined
what the new rules are.
886
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:38,733
And it's ironic, a sort of
Silicon Valley tech champion
887
00:36:38,833 --> 00:36:41,066
was funding
the effort of a man
888
00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:44,800
who was suing Gawker to keep
his vile gutter racism
889
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:46,200
from becoming public.
890
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:47,366
[static crackling]
- As you know,
891
00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:48,866
Gawker has said
that you initially
892
00:36:48,966 --> 00:36:51,866
filed the claim
to prevent the publication
893
00:36:51,966 --> 00:36:54,066
of racist language
from you in another tape.
894
00:36:54,166 --> 00:36:55,233
- Mm-hmm.
895
00:37:01,666 --> 00:37:02,766
[somber music]
896
00:37:02,866 --> 00:37:04,766
- Following the release
of the sex tape,
897
00:37:04,866 --> 00:37:07,433
there were a number of stories
that came out
898
00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:09,000
from another of the tapes
899
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,433
revealing that Hogan
had said some
900
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:13,866
extremely racist things
901
00:37:13,966 --> 00:37:15,533
in between
his sexual escapades
902
00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:16,866
with Bubba's wife.
903
00:37:16,966 --> 00:37:18,833
- WWE and Hulk Hogan
are now parting ways
904
00:37:18,933 --> 00:37:23,066
over racist slurs Hogan is
heard repeating over and over.
905
00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:25,900
- Hogan is heard on the tape
talking about his daughter,
906
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,833
Brooke, who he accused
of sleeping
907
00:37:27,933 --> 00:37:29,333
with an African American.
908
00:37:46,933 --> 00:37:48,666
[glass shattering]
909
00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:50,666
- This is hard to watch,
910
00:37:50,766 --> 00:37:54,200
the implosion
of an American icon.
911
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,833
[glass shattering]
912
00:37:56,933 --> 00:37:58,633
- What he said
when he believed no one
913
00:37:58,733 --> 00:37:59,966
would ever hear these things,
914
00:38:00,066 --> 00:38:02,533
it shows you the real person.
915
00:38:02,633 --> 00:38:04,933
This wasn't Hulk Hogan
the superstar.
916
00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:06,666
This was Terry Bollea.
917
00:38:06,766 --> 00:38:08,733
These were the things
that he believed.
918
00:38:08,833 --> 00:38:11,566
- The man I met
and I know would
919
00:38:11,666 --> 00:38:14,733
never have said racial slurs.
920
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,000
- A lot of people
turned against him.
921
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,066
It was a--
922
00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:21,533
I worried about it
a lot for him.
923
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:24,966
Almost put him
in a point of depression.
924
00:38:25,066 --> 00:38:28,200
- What can you tell me
about the use of the N-word
925
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:30,433
in one of those tapes?
926
00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:33,433
- The use of the N-word
goes along with that day,
927
00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:35,600
when I bottomed out.
928
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,700
People that know me
know I'm not a racist.
929
00:38:37,766 --> 00:38:41,300
Some of my best friends,
you know, are Afro-American.
930
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,800
The people that know me
know I'm not a racist.
931
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:45,200
The WWE fans know me.
932
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,133
They know I'm not a racist.
933
00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:49,500
It's just a horrible mistake.
934
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,233
- I was pretty stunned
at just how...
935
00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:57,666
aggressively racist
what he said was.
936
00:38:57,766 --> 00:38:59,100
And the apologies
that he's issued
937
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,800
have, to me, rung very hollow.
938
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,666
- He said that the Black
wrestlers in the--
939
00:39:04,766 --> 00:39:06,633
aren't ready to have you back.
940
00:39:06,733 --> 00:39:07,833
- Well, I didn't
hear that, brother.
941
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:09,000
I just heard him
make a comment...
942
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,200
- Let's go.
943
00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:12,300
- On TMZ about it,
about--he said he--
944
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,166
I should apologize.
945
00:39:14,266 --> 00:39:16,800
And I totally agree, but not
to the Black wrestlers,
946
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:18,000
to all the wrestlers.
947
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:20,333
- He's saying things
that he genuinely
948
00:39:20,433 --> 00:39:22,366
feels or believes
unprompted,
949
00:39:22,466 --> 00:39:24,433
with the belief
that no one was around.
950
00:39:24,533 --> 00:39:29,133
- Do you blame Bubba
as much as you blame Gawker?
951
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:30,133
- No, I'm accountable.
952
00:39:30,233 --> 00:39:32,400
I blame myself, you know.
953
00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:34,966
- I know it's not easy
to root for me.
954
00:39:35,066 --> 00:39:36,000
I know.
955
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:37,266
I know that it's
not easy to think
956
00:39:37,366 --> 00:39:38,600
Bubba's being the victim.
957
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,366
- Bubba the Love Sponge
is the ultimate schemer.
958
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,400
I think it was a big
propaganda campaign
959
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,066
that he's the victim of this.
960
00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:48,733
So he--you know,
he did all this.
961
00:39:48,833 --> 00:39:50,300
But it's not his fault.
962
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,266
- I did let him
[bleep] my wife.
963
00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:55,300
And my home surveillance
system got--
964
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,066
captivated it, as it
captivates everything.
965
00:39:58,166 --> 00:40:00,833
That's the--my own--
that's my only dabbling
966
00:40:00,933 --> 00:40:01,866
in the whole thing.
967
00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:03,233
♪ ♪
968
00:40:03,333 --> 00:40:07,500
- It was really hard to...
969
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,133
handle the fact that he
did this to me, you know.
970
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:11,433
It was--
971
00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:15,200
♪ ♪
972
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:16,833
I don't how to say it.
973
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:23,933
♪ ♪
974
00:40:43,166 --> 00:40:44,400
- One last question,
you know, WWE--
975
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:45,666
Hulk Hogan wants a comeback.
976
00:40:45,766 --> 00:40:47,133
Do you think
it's ever happening?
977
00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:49,033
- I think,
after apologies to all
978
00:40:49,133 --> 00:40:52,000
the existing
African American talent, that,
979
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,800
you know, he would be a--
980
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:55,833
we're a forgiving world.
981
00:40:55,933 --> 00:40:58,666
- In 2018, Hogan made
his first reappearance
982
00:40:58,766 --> 00:40:59,966
on WWE Television.
983
00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:01,233
- Team Hogan, Team Flair.
984
00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:03,066
Did you ever think,
30 years later,
985
00:41:03,166 --> 00:41:05,133
you guys would still
be continuing the rivalry?
986
00:41:05,233 --> 00:41:07,100
- Well, you know, I figured
it would never end.
987
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,900
- It's what you've all
been waiting for,
988
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,866
the one, the only Hulk Hogan.
989
00:41:12,966 --> 00:41:15,900
- He appeared again
at WrestleMania 35
990
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,100
to open the show
and got a huge cheer.
991
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,966
[crowd cheering]
992
00:41:22,066 --> 00:41:25,800
You are always going to want
to hold on to your heroes.
993
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,133
[upbeat rock music]
994
00:41:27,233 --> 00:41:29,233
- How do you turn this into,
you know,
995
00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:32,233
the happy ending that I'm sure
you've prayed for?
996
00:41:32,333 --> 00:41:34,600
- You know, just everybody
that knows me knows who I am.
997
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:36,500
But for those who don't,
I'm gonna fight
998
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,266
to win them back
one day at a time.
999
00:41:39,366 --> 00:41:43,533
And there's nothing else
I can do except be honest.
1000
00:41:43,633 --> 00:41:46,066
- It just shows you
how fame, money,
1001
00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:49,933
power, celebrity
can overcome any scandal,
1002
00:41:50,033 --> 00:41:52,500
even a racist sex tape.
1003
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,566
- I feel like a kid again
because the fans
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are so excited.
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There's so much energy here.
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I feel kind of like
Hulkamania has been reborn.
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