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Do you know what a legend is?
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A legend gets started out
by somebody telling a story.
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"I caught a fish this big."
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Now, the guy
that spread the story
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said it was this big.
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And by the time it goes to ten
different people, guess what?
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"It was this big.
It really was."
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And that's how
a legend gets started.
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It doesn't mean anything.
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It's a story.
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Anyone that has not
been able to hook a shark
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from a land based position
wouldn't know what it's like.
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The tremendous amount
of power of this fish had.
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Now when most people
think of sharks,
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they automatically think
of Jaws.
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That Hollywood shark
that bit its way
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through more than a few bodies,
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leaving behind
a lot of blood and gore.
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So what is it with these guys?
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They jump right
in with the shark.
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They beg them to come on over.
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They're not crazy.
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They've just caught shark fever.
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Actually, just holding the rod,
that gave me the fever.
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I was just a little kid.
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Hooked me for life.
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I've taught a lot of kids,
and they become good.
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They become better than me.
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And Rene was one of them.
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Whoa.
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Yeah.
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Hauling in a shark
is no small chore.
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Yet challenges like these are
what Rene de Dios lives for.
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The Miami Beach resident
is considered by many,
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the best shark fisherman around.
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Being a fanatic is one
big secret and I don't like it
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I love the sport
of catching shark.
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Are there really
sharks in Miami Beach?
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South Beach?
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If you ever questioned
whether the waters
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off of South Florida beaches
are filled with sharks,
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this should answer the question.
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And I'm like yeah,
when you're swimming.
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They were swimming next to you.
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You just didn't know.
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I grew up on South Beach,
South of fifth.
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My old man, Seaweed,
grew up with these guys,
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with Rene, Hammer.
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He's a special case because
he's really carried this
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in his blood, living in
South Beach for so many years.
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I mean, before me,
it was a special era
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that was,
it was just totally different.
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South Beach back in the day,
it was just a place
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where the hub of the action was,
where everybody was out here
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trying to make a name for themselves.
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The surfers,
the shark fishermen.
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It was a lifestyle.
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It was like crack brother.
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It was like so addictive, man.
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You know,
if you lived in South Beach,
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you surfed there,
you skated, you fished there,
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you had to congregate there.
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It was criteria.
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Everyone wanted
the biggest shark.
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Everyone wanted to outlast
the next guy that came along.
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The guys that were at the top,
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they weren't going to give up
that spot.
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And the one guy
that stuck out was Rene.
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Rene de Dios was
completely caught up
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with the shark fishing.
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He's on, baby!
He hit the one on top!
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He was aggressive,
very competitive.
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World record.
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Look at the size of this shit.
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And he would tell you,
"I'm number one."
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Rene is an icon in
the history of South Beach.
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As a kid we thought,
man this guy's a god.
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This guy's a bad ass.
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He'd project things
and then it happened.
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He would risk life
and limb to catch a shark.
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He caught a twenty
foot great white shark
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that dragged
down their small boat.
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I believe the story.
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If you told me that story,
I'd say no.
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Blood's in the water.
Now blood's in the water.
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And that's when
everything went downhill.
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He was one of my
young kids that I brought up
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that became one of the best
shark fishermen
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in the United States.
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He proved it every day
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but he died, proving it.
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You can put jaws on there,
it's not coming off.
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I like to be ready for whatever.
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Whatever I encounter out there.
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The two people I look
at as legends right now
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are JD Hammer and Rene for two
different reasons all together.
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People tell me like-- "What
are you doing? You're crazy?"
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I don't even come close to Rene.
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I had stories
where he was suicidal
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to put him in a little raft
and let him go.
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'Cause he just wanted to
die out there with the shark.
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Well, Rene taught me
how to be an aggressive
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balls to the wall
shark fishermen like--
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Man, I don't even want
to be out there in a big boat.
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I'm not going out
there in this kayak.
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"Don't be scared. Go out there.
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"You know,
you got to go right now."
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But Hammer, he taught me
how to follow the winds,
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how to follow the seasons.
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He wakes up, no Weather Channel,
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"Oh no, we're not
going there anymore,
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"we're going here now."
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And then boom,
we're on the fish.
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He is the god of fishing.
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I can tell you back in the days
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if you want to hear another
story, because guess what?
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I'm a storyteller.
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And do you know,
throughout history
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there's been storytellers.
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And I feel like I'm one of them.
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I'm one of the storytellers.
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So, I can tell you a great story
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about the South Beach
Shark Club.
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Miami Beach,
specifically South Beach.
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I could compare it to a...
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what would I compare it to?
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In the old days,
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it was totally different,
it was uncrowded,
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it was relaxed,
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it was laid back.
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You could actually be a surf bum
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and make a living
with a cast net netting mullet.
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Two out of every three
people on South Beach
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have no car
and no access to one.
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Half the people here live
on less than $150 per month.
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South Beach was in decline.
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There was a lot of
the old people
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who came to retire
on South Beach.
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Just feeding the birds
or just waiting to die.
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Basically,
it was a retirement home.
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The southern tip
of Miami Beach
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has a high concentration
of elderly residents,
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perhaps higher
than any other area
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of comparable size in the world.
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Fifth street was
called Miami Beach Boulevard.
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South of fifth street
was a community in itself.
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You know, imagine you
have this retirement community
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of these zillions
of elderly old people
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and then this little bunch
of younger people.
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So, we all knew each other.
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There are only 50
low rent housing units
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in Miami Beach, all clustered
at the very tip of South Beach.
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If you lived south of Fifth,
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it was basically
like very decrepit.
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Our parents were very poor.
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We lived in small apartments,
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you know, no air conditioning,
you know, jalousie windows.
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For the most part,
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Miami Beach from Sixth Street
south, is not a pretty place.
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It's very old.
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One of the oldest neighborhoods
in South Florida.
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It was a dump site, is what
it was. It was a rough scene.
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It wasn't like it is now.
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Have you been to
South Beach lately?
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Probably not.
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Most of us try to
avoid the old rundown area
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of Miami Beach,
south of Sixth Street.
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The city of Miami Beach has
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declared it a blighted area
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and rezoned it for renewal.
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South Beach,
a ghetto in the sun,
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a place where old
people and old values
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are making a
lonely final struggle.
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There's a lot
that's truly depressing,
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sites many of us
would like to eliminate,
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but there are others too,
young people
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who feel at home on one of the
few pieces of real beach left
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in Miami Beach.
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And new ethnic groups,
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Cubans and blacks, families
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bringing young children
back to these weary streets.
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What's different
today than back in the days?
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Back in the days it
was so free out there.
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Nobody would hassle you.
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I mean...
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it was just a different time,
a different place.
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Never, ever will
it be like that again.
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It's gone.
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95% of the people
that live on Miami Beach now
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are transient or just
showed up on Miami Beach.
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They have no idea
what it was back then.
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South Beach,
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what a beautiful place.
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You know, I always tell people,
South Beach, South Point,
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this is the last sand beach,
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like ocean beach
on the whole East Coast.
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Everything else is just like,
you know, it's not a beach.
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It's not.
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The geography of South Beach was
a captive audience in itself.
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That's where A1A ends.
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I mean, now it's only ocean
south of us and east of us.
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So people would just
walk and just take it in.
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You had the
projects on the south side,
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the parking lot, the dog track.
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Then you had the chicken shack.
Then you had the surf shop.
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You had this bar in the corner
where all the Hells Angels
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and these motorcycle guys
would hang out.
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A restaurant that it was
only like for high class people.
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You know,
we didn't go inside there.
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There was a fish market
called Sanitary Fish Market.
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They were the projects.
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It was like a surfing
town surfing, fishing town.
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Locals.
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South Beach. It's like a funnel.
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It's a magnet for very strange
people, very strange kids.
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It was very dynamic.
It was very diversified.
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You had like a
motley crew of people there.
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There was just a group of us
that were from south of Fifth.
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We were surfers, skateboarders
and fishermen and divers.
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I think I discovered
the pier in like 1978.
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I was basically just
skateboarding down Ocean Drive,
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and I saw it in the distance
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and I just kept skateboarding
until I found out what it was.
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The pier was on
First Street and Ocean.
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That's where I
did most of my fishing.
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Was at night on the pier or
right off the surf on the beach.
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You had the brotherhood
of the South Beach guys,
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the surfers, the skateboarders,
the shark fishermen.
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Everybody knew each other.
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And we would just
congregate on the pier
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all day, every day.
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It was really localized,
the turf.
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I mean, you didn't just pile
next to the pier
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with a bunch of guys who knew
each other
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and you were unfamiliar.
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You were either
welcomed or you weren't.
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And if you weren't,
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you were either
physically moved out or worse.
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You couldn't fish that area.
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It was very
territorial on the pier,
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on the beach, the waves, same
thing, even in the parking lot.
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If you were not a local, if
you didn't know anybody there,
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there was certain areas where
you can't-- you can't go.
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If you were a young kid,
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you knew to take your place
and learn
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and try to build your way
into the group.
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But you understood
who was at the top.
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Once the sun started setting,
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the right hand corner of the
pier belonged to the shark guys.
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Nobody messed with that.
253
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The whole thing was based on
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who got the biggest fish
that day
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and who now is which
we would call the Kahuna.
256
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So the Kahuna, many times Rene,
would be on that pier
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for more than 10 hours a day.
258
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The guys were at the top,
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they weren't going
to give up that spot.
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And the one guy
that stuck out was Rene.
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Every time he went out
on the pier,
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it was like his last night on
the pier.
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And that's how he approached
every bait he put out.
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That was going
to be the big one,
265
00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:04,912
and he went every night,
every free night that he had.
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He was on that corner.
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That was his corner.
268
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That was the corner that reached
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what we called
"the monster hole" back then.
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There was only one guy.
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He was the master.
272
00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:22,963
He became the guy
that out fished the teacher.
273
00:14:23,096 --> 00:14:25,565
He made the teacher
look like crap.
274
00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:27,534
That's how good he was.
275
00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:28,835
Who was the teacher?
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I taught him how to fish.
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Topping the list of the great
and famous
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South Beach pier fisherman
is a 20 year old
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Miami-Dade Community College
student, Rene de Dios.
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As a kid, we thought,
man this guy's a god.
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He kind of had that, you know,
282
00:14:44,784 --> 00:14:46,719
he'd project things
and then it happened.
283
00:14:46,853 --> 00:14:48,956
He had this aura about him.
284
00:14:49,089 --> 00:14:51,624
Like you could tell that he
achieved something amazing
285
00:14:51,758 --> 00:14:53,660
that he wanted to do.
286
00:14:53,793 --> 00:14:56,296
I think Rene
was born to do that.
287
00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:58,365
About 10 o'clock last night,
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the jaws of a 9 1/2 foot
long man eating tiger shark
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00:15:02,402 --> 00:15:05,905
clamped down on the bait at
the end of de Dios' 14/0 reel.
290
00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:09,042
Rene came around.
Rene became the big kahuna.
291
00:15:09,176 --> 00:15:11,244
It's like the king of the pack.
You know, the top dog.
292
00:15:11,378 --> 00:15:13,280
Kahuna, man, the guy who catches
293
00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:15,448
all the big fish, man,
the hot shot.
294
00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:17,517
Why do you pursue sharks?
295
00:15:17,650 --> 00:15:19,786
I guess it was
kind of born with me.
296
00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:21,621
It's like a fever.
297
00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:24,124
If I give you my rod
and you get that feeling,
298
00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:27,260
the big fish, it sticks
to you and you can't let go.
299
00:15:27,394 --> 00:15:29,062
It's a fever that sticks to you.
300
00:15:29,196 --> 00:15:30,797
It's a big emotion
301
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,899
because, you know
everybody's watching you.
302
00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:35,068
And then you want more
and more. It's like a drug.
303
00:15:35,202 --> 00:15:36,269
It's just the same.
304
00:15:39,906 --> 00:15:41,208
Who taught Rene how to fish?
305
00:15:41,341 --> 00:15:43,143
I know JD Hammer--
306
00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:46,913
Jimbo had a lot to do
with it, and he quietly--
307
00:15:47,047 --> 00:15:49,082
I remember the story
of when Rene
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00:15:49,216 --> 00:15:51,184
hooked his first shark
on the pier.
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00:15:51,318 --> 00:15:54,654
He put out his rod and like,
there was those higher powers.
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00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:56,256
And it was really
311
00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:57,991
it wasn't like your average
fishing pier
312
00:15:58,125 --> 00:15:59,592
that you go to Palm Beach now
313
00:15:59,726 --> 00:16:01,428
and it's like controlled
with security and stuff.
314
00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:03,263
There were some bad
motherfuckers out there
315
00:16:03,396 --> 00:16:05,265
that would just put down on you,
316
00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:07,500
like, straight up like, "Hey,
man, give me that rod you know."
317
00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:09,036
Like snatch your rod
out of your hands,
318
00:16:09,169 --> 00:16:10,270
and he's fighting a shark.
319
00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:11,604
And I forgot who it was.
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00:16:11,738 --> 00:16:12,839
It was this big...
321
00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,541
I think they called him Moose.
322
00:16:14,674 --> 00:16:15,942
It was the Moose,
323
00:16:16,076 --> 00:16:18,478
he was like this big, big,
324
00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:21,714
like scary dude on the pier who
was a shark fisherman.
325
00:16:21,848 --> 00:16:24,184
And Rene, I think he was
like 15, hooked his first shark.
326
00:16:24,317 --> 00:16:25,952
And the guys like,
"Man give me that rod,
327
00:16:26,086 --> 00:16:27,354
"you don't know what you're
doing kid."
328
00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:28,955
And was taking the rod away
329
00:16:29,089 --> 00:16:30,823
and that Hammer came
and grabbed the rod
330
00:16:30,957 --> 00:16:32,792
he's like, "No man,
let the kid catch his shark."
331
00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:34,594
And since then, you know
Rene looked up
332
00:16:34,727 --> 00:16:36,129
"Oh, man, this guy's nice."
333
00:16:36,263 --> 00:16:38,231
And he learned
a lot from Hammer.
334
00:16:38,365 --> 00:16:39,566
I know that.
335
00:16:57,650 --> 00:16:59,486
When I met Rene, he was 14.
336
00:17:01,288 --> 00:17:03,323
He didn't know
anything about shark fishing.
337
00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:06,293
I said, "Rene, what do you got?"
338
00:17:06,426 --> 00:17:08,428
And he goes, "I got a yo yo."
339
00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:10,097
I said, "Partner, you're not
going to catch
340
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:11,564
"nothing with that."
341
00:17:12,365 --> 00:17:14,067
He followed us
342
00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:16,069
because we were already there
shark fishing
343
00:17:16,203 --> 00:17:17,870
and he was just starting.
344
00:17:18,004 --> 00:17:19,806
So yeah, he took out our bait.
345
00:17:21,208 --> 00:17:23,343
When you're first starting you
have to go through, like,
346
00:17:23,476 --> 00:17:25,678
a rookie training.
347
00:17:25,812 --> 00:17:28,248
You know, you might as well say.
348
00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:32,385
I had to take out bait
for somebody on a surfboard,
349
00:17:32,952 --> 00:17:35,388
and Rene had to
take out my bait.
350
00:17:44,331 --> 00:17:48,435
When Rene caught his
first shark on my rod in 1971,
351
00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:50,703
there was a 300 pound dude
out there
352
00:17:50,837 --> 00:17:53,106
trying to take the rod
away from him.
353
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,074
You know what I told him?
354
00:17:55,208 --> 00:17:57,410
I said, "Leave the kid alone."
355
00:17:57,944 --> 00:17:59,279
That was Rene's first shark.
356
00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:02,482
Yeah. The guy could
have beat my ass,
357
00:18:02,615 --> 00:18:05,785
but he respected me as
being one of the elders.
358
00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:07,954
So he left me alone.
359
00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:09,689
And Rene caught his first shark.
360
00:18:09,822 --> 00:18:14,127
And from then,
till whenever he was a monster.
361
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,270
Any angler has a
dream as to a big fish.
362
00:18:24,003 --> 00:18:26,273
Rene's was to catch
the biggest shark possible.
363
00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:28,675
I don't know if he
came close to his dream,
364
00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:31,844
but I know he had some hookups
that were impossible to stop.
365
00:18:34,046 --> 00:18:36,649
In 1974, Rene caught a 14 foot hammerhead
366
00:18:36,783 --> 00:18:38,651
and it came out
in the Miami Herald,
367
00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:41,554
and that drove
him to extreme heights.
368
00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:43,490
The 14 footer that he landed?
369
00:18:43,623 --> 00:18:44,924
Oh, he never let that go.
370
00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:46,293
No, that was
his bragging rights.
371
00:18:46,426 --> 00:18:47,594
That was his thing.
372
00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:49,529
The pier was alive with people
373
00:18:49,662 --> 00:18:51,398
raving over this giant hammerhead
374
00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:54,967
that's part of his legend
is that, that 14 foot hammer,
375
00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:56,836
people talked
about that forever.
376
00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:58,671
That was the bar back then.
377
00:18:58,805 --> 00:19:00,340
I heard it from
the elderly peoples
378
00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:01,974
down on Fourth Street,
Fifth Street,
379
00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:03,976
this guy landed this 14 foot hammerhead
380
00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:05,678
and then hearing it from Rene,
381
00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:07,847
I think I believe he tied
into two reels.
382
00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:11,318
Back then,
when you would get stripped,
383
00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:13,085
you would run down the pier
384
00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:16,323
and cut the line and
splice it into another line.
385
00:19:16,456 --> 00:19:18,291
As you're running out of line.
386
00:19:19,259 --> 00:19:21,661
One of your buddies
would peel out all the line
387
00:19:21,794 --> 00:19:23,463
so the shark wouldn't feel
the tension
388
00:19:23,596 --> 00:19:25,798
and that would give you time
to pull that out
389
00:19:25,932 --> 00:19:28,968
and tie it to a second rod
to keep fighting the fish.
390
00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:32,071
I don't know where that
idea originally came from.
391
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:35,174
I cannot say it was Rene's,
392
00:19:35,308 --> 00:19:37,610
but I cannot
say it wasn't either.
393
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:42,315
It was crazy.
394
00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:47,019
Having spliced and then brought
those reels back in
395
00:19:47,153 --> 00:19:49,021
and having caught that shark.
396
00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:51,023
That set Rene at
the epitome of land based
397
00:19:51,157 --> 00:19:52,992
shark fishing around the world.
398
00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,628
That 14 foot hammer.
He was always bragging about it.
399
00:19:55,762 --> 00:19:58,398
And he was always telling me and
you know he's number one,
400
00:19:58,531 --> 00:19:59,899
no one can ever beat him.
401
00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:01,901
Everybody wanted
to out fish each other
402
00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:03,536
and try to equal what Rene
was doing.
403
00:20:03,670 --> 00:20:05,171
And we wanted
to be part of that.
404
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,742
Rene became obsessed with this.
405
00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:12,679
His demeanor, his stamina.
406
00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:15,515
He attacked shark fishing
with a fury,
407
00:20:15,648 --> 00:20:18,751
like it was the last thing
he was going to do every day.
408
00:20:18,885 --> 00:20:20,787
He was like King Kong
on the pier,
409
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,690
this little guy with muscles,
with a big mouth.
410
00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:26,526
And then Jaws came out
in '76 and that was it, man.
411
00:20:26,659 --> 00:20:28,328
It was like a fire out there.
412
00:20:44,143 --> 00:20:46,613
Shark, tiger of the sea.
413
00:20:46,746 --> 00:20:50,417
Of all sea terrors, the shark
is the meanest, the most crass.
414
00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:54,754
Merciless. Tremendous strength,
with an uncanny sense of smell.
415
00:20:56,055 --> 00:20:57,924
The men throw out the chum,
416
00:20:58,057 --> 00:21:00,793
the fish swarm
about the delectable morsels
417
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:04,731
but now this is where the
sportsman gets into action.
418
00:21:04,864 --> 00:21:06,299
He took it all right.
419
00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:07,634
Hook, line and sinker.
420
00:21:10,503 --> 00:21:13,440
Jaws put sharks and
shark fishing on the map.
421
00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:16,409
All of a sudden, you had
tournaments all over the place.
422
00:21:16,543 --> 00:21:18,345
The University of Miami
is sponsoring
423
00:21:18,478 --> 00:21:20,780
a shark fishing tournament this
weekend in the Keys.
424
00:21:20,913 --> 00:21:24,484
Shark research will be benefited
by the second annual shark hunt,
425
00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:26,886
which is scheduled for April
15th through the 17th.
426
00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:29,088
Rene started winning a
lot of these tournaments
427
00:21:29,221 --> 00:21:32,258
and he'd come back to the
pier and show off his trophies.
428
00:21:32,392 --> 00:21:33,760
Those early tournaments,
429
00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:35,194
it really showed that
what he could do.
430
00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:37,630
You never beat Rene.
Rene always won.
431
00:21:37,764 --> 00:21:39,632
You know, you could beat him in
one category,
432
00:21:39,766 --> 00:21:41,801
but he'd beat you in three.
433
00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:44,170
Rene wanted to
be in the newspaper.
434
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,605
He wanted to be in your face.
435
00:21:45,738 --> 00:21:47,407
He wanted to beat everybody.
436
00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:51,378
So he brought shark fishing
to a new, volatile level.
437
00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:52,779
The guy was fearless.
438
00:21:52,912 --> 00:21:53,946
This guy's a bad ass.
439
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,214
He wanted to catch Jaws now.
440
00:21:55,348 --> 00:21:56,916
Rene was Captain Quint.
441
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:01,488
Hooper! Reverse it!
442
00:22:01,621 --> 00:22:04,123
Got him! Get us off the anchor!
443
00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:10,229
When he caught a shark,
he became someone else.
444
00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:12,365
He would turn into
like an animal
445
00:22:12,499 --> 00:22:14,266
when he would hook sharks.
446
00:22:14,401 --> 00:22:15,768
He would just go berserk.
447
00:22:15,902 --> 00:22:17,437
You know, he went into a frenzy.
448
00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:19,171
There you go!
449
00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:20,473
He's on, baby.
450
00:22:20,607 --> 00:22:22,174
He hit the one on top!
451
00:22:22,308 --> 00:22:23,476
I knew it,
452
00:22:23,610 --> 00:22:25,578
he hit the bottle, man.
453
00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:27,814
Oh, my God.
454
00:22:27,947 --> 00:22:30,983
Where is he, wait.
See where he is.
455
00:22:31,918 --> 00:22:33,820
I need somebody in the back.
456
00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:35,688
The fish is completely,
457
00:22:35,822 --> 00:22:37,890
it's completely
under on the boat Jorge.
458
00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:41,394
You know,
he wanted the biggest shark.
459
00:22:41,528 --> 00:22:43,062
The meanest shark.
460
00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:46,699
Rene was chasing
the Goliath of sharks.
461
00:23:11,157 --> 00:23:14,293
Rene de Dios
is only 156 pounds
462
00:23:14,427 --> 00:23:16,729
and stands about 5'5",
463
00:23:16,863 --> 00:23:19,231
certainly not the world's
biggest shark hunter.
464
00:23:19,365 --> 00:23:21,200
But he says size doesn't matter.
465
00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:22,702
You've got to have it
in your heart
466
00:23:22,835 --> 00:23:24,704
and it's got to be in your blood
467
00:23:24,837 --> 00:23:26,806
if you want to be the
world's greatest shark hunter.
468
00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:30,109
CT Taylor with the upcoming
world's greatest shark hunter
469
00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:32,344
on South Beach
for Channel 4 news.
470
00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:36,749
Oh, this guy was crazy.
471
00:23:36,883 --> 00:23:38,751
No doubt about it.
472
00:23:42,354 --> 00:23:44,423
I'm not saying
anything against Rene.
473
00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:46,926
He's the guy that took it
a step further
474
00:23:47,059 --> 00:23:51,197
and went beyond the average
shark fisherman.
475
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:57,403
And I tell some of these
young shark fishermen
476
00:23:57,537 --> 00:24:00,507
that fish today and they're
like, "Hey, am I like Rene?"
477
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,142
And I'm like,
"There's no one like Rene."
478
00:24:15,321 --> 00:24:18,457
He had to be
number one every day.
479
00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:22,795
You're not going to be number
one long,
480
00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:26,032
when you put that kind of
pressure on yourself.
481
00:24:26,165 --> 00:24:29,001
I've never put that pressure
on myself to be number one.
482
00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:30,770
I love shark fishing.
483
00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:32,505
And when I get a chance,
I go out.
484
00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:42,649
He had to be
number one every day.
485
00:24:51,423 --> 00:24:52,625
Look at this day.
486
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:54,694
Look how beautiful it is.
487
00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:59,398
If I wanted to order this day
for shark fishing,
488
00:24:59,532 --> 00:25:02,234
even though we're not getting
too many bites right now,
489
00:25:02,368 --> 00:25:04,003
this is what I'd order.
490
00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:07,439
A nice, cool breeze,
beautiful sun,
491
00:25:07,574 --> 00:25:10,342
nice people to hang out
with and have a good time.
492
00:25:10,777 --> 00:25:14,013
Catching the shark
is not important.
493
00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:17,349
And when I get a new kid and
I'm teaching him how to fish,
494
00:25:17,483 --> 00:25:20,653
I tell him,
"It's not important.
495
00:25:21,087 --> 00:25:23,956
"Don't make it your
everything to catch a shark.
496
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:27,226
"There's many more things
that are more important
497
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,928
"than shark fishing."
498
00:25:29,061 --> 00:25:30,362
Oh!
499
00:25:31,831 --> 00:25:34,066
The current.
It's just the current.
500
00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,176
My dad would work really hard
every day,
501
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:46,078
so I didn't have my dad there.
502
00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:48,280
I would only see my dad
early morning or late at night.
503
00:25:48,414 --> 00:25:50,016
Rene was like an older brother,
father figure
504
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:52,652
and kind of guiding us
in the right direction.
505
00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:54,020
We kind of raised each other.
506
00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:55,421
I don't know what was going on
507
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,223
in the households
of the other kids,
508
00:25:57,356 --> 00:25:59,391
but it seemed like
we were kind of feral.
509
00:25:59,525 --> 00:26:01,093
There was no curfews.
510
00:26:01,227 --> 00:26:03,796
Nobody was making sure
we went to school,
511
00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:05,798
didn't seem like there were
sit down meals.
512
00:26:05,932 --> 00:26:07,499
You know, like breakfast,
lunch and dinner
513
00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,101
where mom's cooking dinner.
514
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:10,703
I mean, yeah,
I guess that was happening.
515
00:26:10,837 --> 00:26:12,271
Wasn't in my household.
516
00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:16,275
We would,
not go to school too much.
517
00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:18,778
We were basically
hanging around people
518
00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,547
that were a lot older than us.
519
00:26:21,681 --> 00:26:23,349
We were the young ones.
520
00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:25,451
I would spend at least four
or five nights a week
521
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,386
on the pier on a sleeping bag.
522
00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:29,956
I couldn't stay in school.
523
00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:31,824
All I wanted to
do was surf and fish.
524
00:26:31,958 --> 00:26:34,460
So, by eighth grade I was done.
525
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:39,065
Rene really drew a lot of people
to the sport on that pier
526
00:26:39,198 --> 00:26:41,267
because of his personality,
his character.
527
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,569
You wanted to be like this guy,
you saw what he did
528
00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:46,272
and you were just driven
to be next to him
529
00:26:46,405 --> 00:26:48,274
and hear his stories
and fish with him.
530
00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:51,310
You know, Rene was pretty good
at calling meetings
531
00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:54,613
and getting
things done with young minds
532
00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:56,649
who wanted to be
in his good grace.
533
00:26:58,184 --> 00:26:59,952
Whether you like it or not,
534
00:27:00,086 --> 00:27:02,755
if you hung out with Rene,
you became a shark fisherman.
535
00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:06,458
What specific items do you look
for that would tell you
536
00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:08,327
that there are shark fishermen
out there?
537
00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:11,764
Very heavy tackle,
large reels, dead bait.
538
00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:14,133
We didn't realize
what we were doing
539
00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:16,168
with the sharks and whatnot.
540
00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:19,939
We really had no basis on where
it was going to go from there.
541
00:27:20,072 --> 00:27:22,709
He actually
took us under his wing
542
00:27:22,842 --> 00:27:24,443
because basically
we were derelicts.
543
00:27:25,712 --> 00:27:28,580
Our major objection is
that it's a public beach.
544
00:27:28,715 --> 00:27:30,750
There's swimmers out here.
545
00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:32,551
We've got a good
fishing pier here.
546
00:27:32,685 --> 00:27:34,486
It's a public pier.
547
00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,723
And the sharks, you know,
they run off any decent fishing
548
00:27:36,856 --> 00:27:38,791
we might have and
it's bad for the swimmers.
549
00:27:38,925 --> 00:27:40,426
It would be dangerous.
550
00:27:42,461 --> 00:27:46,332
The rules for the old pier back
then was there wasn't any rules.
551
00:27:46,465 --> 00:27:48,735
We would just do basically
whatever we really wanted to do
552
00:27:48,868 --> 00:27:51,470
because we just ran that pier.
553
00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:54,173
Oh, we'd piss
people off all the time
554
00:27:54,306 --> 00:27:56,342
because they didn't
understand our wild ways.
555
00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:59,111
The old people, they came
to the beach to relax and die
556
00:27:59,245 --> 00:28:01,680
and we were out here
living life to the fullest
557
00:28:01,814 --> 00:28:03,983
so people-- "Kid move over,
get out of the way."
558
00:28:04,116 --> 00:28:06,753
And we were like running over
people to get a bait out.
559
00:28:06,886 --> 00:28:09,688
When was the last
incident that this happened?
560
00:28:09,822 --> 00:28:11,791
Just last night
as a matter of fact,
561
00:28:11,924 --> 00:28:15,294
I asked a boy to leave because
he wanted to shark fish.
562
00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:17,496
He bought the bait off of me
as a matter of fact
563
00:28:17,629 --> 00:28:19,365
and he killed it
right out front.
564
00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:21,167
I told him, you know,
that that wasn't allowed.
565
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,169
I explained to him
that it wasn't allowed.
566
00:28:23,302 --> 00:28:25,504
I don't think he was
aware of our ordinance here.
567
00:28:44,957 --> 00:28:47,193
I mean, we had
the run of the beach.
568
00:28:48,027 --> 00:28:51,764
We thought that we
actually owned that beach.
569
00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:55,134
We were there every day.
We were there fishing.
570
00:28:55,267 --> 00:28:57,103
We were there
doing whatever we want.
571
00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:01,573
You wanted to
identify yourself with what was
572
00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:05,778
so we identified ourselves
as South Beach Pier Rats.
573
00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:09,048
You were proud to call yourself
a rat, a South Beach Rat.
574
00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:10,549
Really.
575
00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:13,886
The rats, they used to call us,
"Oh here comes the rats."
576
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,722
We were these
little troublemakers.
577
00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:19,291
Pier rat is someone
that lives on the pier, man.
578
00:29:19,425 --> 00:29:22,094
Your life
revolves around the pier.
579
00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:25,998
I was a pier rat.
We skateboarded, lived, slept,
580
00:29:26,132 --> 00:29:29,268
hung out, surfed,
everything was the pier.
581
00:29:30,569 --> 00:29:32,571
Rene was
definitely like the Pied Piper.
582
00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:34,406
Where he'd have all these kids
out there,
583
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,408
even the surfers and the guys
who were skateboarding
584
00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:38,110
would sit around
and listen to his stories.
585
00:29:39,478 --> 00:29:43,950
We started hanging out with JD
and JD and Rene would have us...
586
00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:45,484
I always hated this.
587
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:47,419
They called us
"Ginos" and I hated it.
588
00:29:47,553 --> 00:29:50,156
Rene had the proprietary
language on the word Gino.
589
00:29:50,289 --> 00:29:51,924
He had the rights,
the exclusive rights.
590
00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:55,862
You were a bonded servant
or an indentured servant.
591
00:29:56,929 --> 00:29:58,797
We didn't have any money,
so our job was to
592
00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:03,169
make ourselves useful,
paddle out baits, buy baits,
593
00:30:03,302 --> 00:30:07,073
go to Collins Market, get sodas,
a can of tuna, a loaf of bread.
594
00:30:07,206 --> 00:30:08,474
We were errand runners.
595
00:30:08,607 --> 00:30:10,176
You were given a number.
596
00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,811
Gino number one or
Gino number four, five, six.
597
00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:15,347
It was just nice to know
that you had a Gino number.
598
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:17,649
You just knew you
were part of the group.
599
00:30:17,783 --> 00:30:20,319
Everyone had a number,
not a name.
600
00:30:20,452 --> 00:30:22,989
"Hey, number four, Gino Four,
Gino Four,
601
00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:26,692
"Gino Four, go get the food.
Gino Three, get the barracuda,
602
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:27,994
"get the bait out.
603
00:30:28,127 --> 00:30:29,661
You felt like a cohesion.
604
00:30:29,795 --> 00:30:32,965
Like, wow, I got a number.
I'll paddle out.
605
00:30:33,099 --> 00:30:35,334
Even if it was midnight,
we would paddle the baits
606
00:30:35,467 --> 00:30:37,269
out on the surfboard.
607
00:30:37,403 --> 00:30:40,006
You get on your board, which you
threw over the side on the pier,
608
00:30:40,139 --> 00:30:41,240
they lower the bait to you.
609
00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,009
You put the bait
under your chest
610
00:30:43,142 --> 00:30:45,044
and you paddle the bait out
as far as you could,
611
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,946
and then
drop it and then paddle back.
612
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:48,647
Some people would
say you're crazy
613
00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:50,216
for getting on a surfboard
614
00:30:50,349 --> 00:30:52,118
and swimming out
into the ocean with sharks.
615
00:30:52,251 --> 00:30:53,619
- It's not crazy. It's just dedication.
616
00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:55,054
Its just once you go out there,
617
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:56,923
you don't even think about sharks.
618
00:30:57,056 --> 00:30:59,258
You just sing a song in
your head and you just go out.
619
00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:01,693
We were surfers, you know,
so we were okay with that.
620
00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:04,030
So the Kahuna guys would look
for the surfer guys
621
00:31:04,163 --> 00:31:06,498
to take bait out.
622
00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:08,700
Rene would like to cut
the bait in half.
623
00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:10,269
So he would, like,
give it to you
624
00:31:10,402 --> 00:31:12,071
and there's, like,
blood dripping on you.
625
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:13,906
Literally, you'd have to hold it
down with your chest,
626
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,207
with the hooks and everything.
627
00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:16,842
And you're paddling
628
00:31:16,976 --> 00:31:18,810
and you're just
like bathing in the blood.
629
00:31:18,945 --> 00:31:20,679
You know, we're thinking about
getting the bait out there,
630
00:31:20,812 --> 00:31:22,848
but you didn't think about like,
what could have happened
631
00:31:22,982 --> 00:31:24,416
if a shark
would have been behind us.
632
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,419
They would actually
from the scent of the bait,
633
00:31:27,553 --> 00:31:29,755
blood trailing,
they would trail the surfboard.
634
00:31:30,689 --> 00:31:32,291
We thought that's it, he's gone.
635
00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:33,993
He got-- he got eaten up!
636
00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:36,095
And then all of a sudden,
he'd show up soaking wet,
637
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:37,896
the boards all messed up.
638
00:31:38,030 --> 00:31:39,665
"Something hit the surfboard."
639
00:31:39,798 --> 00:31:41,300
"It was a shark!"
640
00:31:42,468 --> 00:31:44,603
I was forced to
paddle out bait for Rene.
641
00:31:45,037 --> 00:31:47,573
It was inadvertently when Rene
would force me, Rene de Dios,
642
00:31:47,706 --> 00:31:51,377
would force me to paddle out
bait at all hours of the night.
643
00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:53,912
People were proud to say
644
00:31:54,046 --> 00:31:57,283
yeah I was Gino Five,
I was Gino 0.76,
645
00:31:57,783 --> 00:31:59,751
I was Gino number Two, you know.
646
00:31:59,885 --> 00:32:01,420
Hey, I wasn't a shark fisherman,
647
00:32:01,553 --> 00:32:03,155
but I did it because
I loved Rene.
648
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:05,091
He always had
words of encouragement.
649
00:32:05,224 --> 00:32:09,395
And so I did it
because I wanted to appease him.
650
00:32:12,698 --> 00:32:14,766
Rene was very extreme.
651
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,036
The story has it that
he had a beautiful wife
652
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:19,938
and he was so
obsessed with being number one,
653
00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:21,607
winning these tournaments,
beating Hammer,
654
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:23,442
beating Kevin in these tournaments
655
00:32:23,575 --> 00:32:25,311
that his wife was warning him,
656
00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:27,313
she was like, "Look, you know
I'm going to leave you.
657
00:32:27,446 --> 00:32:29,281
"You know,
I want a normal life."
658
00:32:29,415 --> 00:32:31,917
A wife wants to go out to dinner
and wants to go out dancing.
659
00:32:32,051 --> 00:32:33,519
You know, he wanted to go,
660
00:32:33,652 --> 00:32:35,287
"Hey, baby, you want to go
shark fishing?"
661
00:32:35,421 --> 00:32:38,057
"Hey, tomorrow. Hey,
after, you know, after work
662
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:39,891
"you want to come
with me shark fishing?"
663
00:32:40,026 --> 00:32:42,094
You know, that was every day.
664
00:32:42,228 --> 00:32:44,863
So that was Rene.
Rene was an extremist.
665
00:32:46,765 --> 00:32:50,302
Woah! Yeah. Okay.
666
00:32:50,436 --> 00:32:52,971
Hauling in a
shark is no small chore.
667
00:32:53,105 --> 00:32:56,275
Yet challenges like these
are what Rene de Dios lives for
668
00:32:56,408 --> 00:32:58,577
the Miami Beach resident
is considered by many
669
00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:00,679
the best shark fisherman around.
670
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:05,884
Being a fanatic is one
big secret and I don't like it.
671
00:33:06,018 --> 00:33:09,455
I love the sport
of catching shark.
672
00:33:10,556 --> 00:33:14,093
It was probably in the late 70's
673
00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:18,830
when, when I heard, you know,
the formation of a Shark Club.
674
00:33:18,964 --> 00:33:20,566
The South Beach Shark Club,
not, you know,
675
00:33:20,699 --> 00:33:22,401
not the Miami Beach,
the South Beach Shark Club.
676
00:33:22,534 --> 00:33:23,869
Rene went ahead and was like,
677
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,304
"I'm going to grab
all the locals.
678
00:33:25,437 --> 00:33:27,039
"All the rats flock to me.
679
00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:28,874
"We're going to have a club,
we're going to fish,
680
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,509
"we're going to beat
everybody in tournaments.
681
00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:32,244
"We're going to beat
the boat tournaments.
682
00:33:32,378 --> 00:33:33,845
"We're going to beat
the land based tournaments.
683
00:33:33,979 --> 00:33:35,814
"South Beach is
going to be on the map.
684
00:33:35,947 --> 00:33:37,883
"We're going to be better than
everybody in shark fishing."
685
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,552
And right from there,
woof! Took off.
686
00:33:42,621 --> 00:33:44,123
We definitely
identified ourselves.
687
00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:45,624
When we show up in a tournament
688
00:33:45,757 --> 00:33:47,359
there'd be a group of us,
maybe 30 guys.
689
00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:49,195
And we were like
the South Beach Rats.
690
00:33:49,328 --> 00:33:51,029
You know, all the guys
that were from the pier.
691
00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:53,199
On his boat,
The Shark Hunter,
692
00:33:53,332 --> 00:33:55,534
Rene and his crew
rack up the big score.
693
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:57,169
We all grew up together,
you know?
694
00:33:57,303 --> 00:33:59,037
We all put in that
little extra effort.
695
00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:01,673
And everybody had a
certain amount of power
696
00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:04,710
in what they had to do and
what's expected of them to do.
697
00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:06,845
It was kind of
like a gang at one point.
698
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,181
Once you're in you're in.
699
00:34:09,315 --> 00:34:10,916
And you would be in.
700
00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:12,418
Part of the ship,
part of the crew,
701
00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:13,885
part of the pier,
part of the crew.
702
00:34:14,019 --> 00:34:15,687
We were young, nothing mattered.
703
00:34:15,821 --> 00:34:17,723
We just wanted to go out
there and make this happen.
704
00:34:17,856 --> 00:34:20,092
We wanted to show who we were to
some of these other clubs
705
00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:21,893
and tournaments around Florida.
706
00:34:22,027 --> 00:34:24,563
That brought them to
another level of publicity.
707
00:34:25,497 --> 00:34:27,766
This six footer was
caught off South Beach
708
00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:31,437
by Captain Rene de Dios,
a licensed shark hunter.
709
00:34:32,838 --> 00:34:34,440
The name of this
boat is Shark Fever.
710
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:36,074
And the reason we named
the boat Shark Fever
711
00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:38,043
is once you get this,
it's like a disease.
712
00:34:38,177 --> 00:34:39,278
You can't get rid of it.
713
00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:40,846
Every time you hook a fish
714
00:34:40,979 --> 00:34:42,514
and the fish is pulling
the other end,
715
00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:44,350
your blood just pumps
and your adrenaline goes.
716
00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:46,185
This is the place right here.
717
00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:48,120
This is ground zero
718
00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:50,256
for the South Beach Shark Club.
719
00:34:51,457 --> 00:34:52,791
It was just like a following,
720
00:34:52,924 --> 00:34:54,393
it was more
than just a fishing club.
721
00:34:54,526 --> 00:34:56,162
You were in the
South Beach Shark Club.
722
00:34:56,295 --> 00:34:57,563
It meant a lot.
723
00:35:12,244 --> 00:35:15,647
Fidel Castro must be
having the last laugh tonight.
724
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,583
With one foul swoop, he rid Cuba
725
00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:20,652
of thousands and thousands
of undesirables.
726
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:22,354
He emptied his prisons.
727
00:35:22,488 --> 00:35:24,656
He cleared the bums off
the streets of Havana.
728
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:26,925
Murderers, thieves,
perverts, prostitutes,
729
00:35:27,058 --> 00:35:28,927
the retarded,
crippled, the winos.
730
00:35:29,060 --> 00:35:31,963
All were rounded up,
sent to Mariel Harbor
731
00:35:32,097 --> 00:35:34,166
and put aboard
boats bound for Miami.
732
00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:38,136
Over 3000 refugees
arrived in a 12 hour period.
733
00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:40,572
Officials say by tomorrow,
734
00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:42,641
the number of Cuban refugees
brought over
735
00:35:42,774 --> 00:35:46,478
on the Mariel boatlift will
total over 100,000.
736
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,016
The Mariel boatlift was in 1980,
737
00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:53,719
and that impacted the beach
in a very negative way.
738
00:35:53,852 --> 00:35:56,021
You'd have drugs
up and down the beach.
739
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:59,325
The crack epidemic.
You'd have robberies.
740
00:35:59,458 --> 00:36:01,993
You had so many criminals that
now we're hovering amongst us.
741
00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:07,533
The perfect storm of this sleepy
Holocaust survivor retirement
742
00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:11,102
ghetto converging with the
Mariel boatlift
743
00:36:11,237 --> 00:36:14,640
made this a very sketchy area.
744
00:36:14,773 --> 00:36:17,376
The community had changed.
745
00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:19,711
Many of the Marielitos
came to South
746
00:36:19,845 --> 00:36:21,480
Beach because of the rents.
747
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:23,549
And as they
moved into buildings,
748
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,217
as they populated buildings,
749
00:36:25,351 --> 00:36:27,819
the elderlies would move out
of the building.
750
00:36:27,953 --> 00:36:29,521
So now you had buildings
751
00:36:30,055 --> 00:36:31,590
with a different tenant profile,
752
00:36:31,723 --> 00:36:33,725
which was not what it was before.
753
00:36:33,859 --> 00:36:36,562
What's happened to the
crime rate on Miami Beach
754
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,630
since these people
started arriving here?
755
00:36:38,764 --> 00:36:40,232
It has soared.
756
00:36:40,366 --> 00:36:43,001
It has soared in the worst
possible areas,
757
00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:45,871
and that is crimes
against persons.
758
00:36:46,004 --> 00:36:48,707
Aggravated assaults, rapes,
759
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,843
robberies are up tremendously,
760
00:36:52,644 --> 00:36:54,713
in excess of 100%.
761
00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:57,683
South Beach got more dangerous
762
00:36:57,816 --> 00:36:59,685
because now they would break
into the cars,
763
00:36:59,818 --> 00:37:03,355
which was not common and now
became more commonplace after
764
00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:06,292
1980, 80, 81, 82, 83.
765
00:37:06,425 --> 00:37:08,360
My apartment had gotten
broken into,
766
00:37:08,494 --> 00:37:10,662
you know, three or four times
in a row.
767
00:37:10,796 --> 00:37:12,764
And I saw someone just getting
completely almost killed
768
00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:15,166
in front of,
in front of the pier one time.
769
00:37:15,301 --> 00:37:18,370
And a guy pulled out a
bat and not even hesitating
770
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:21,907
whacked the guy so hard on
the face, busted all his teeth.
771
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,174
I thought he was dead.
772
00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:24,443
"Oh, shit. What just happened?"
773
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:25,811
You know?
774
00:37:25,944 --> 00:37:27,646
Some fights on those piers occurred
775
00:37:27,779 --> 00:37:29,981
that people got thrown overboard.
776
00:37:30,115 --> 00:37:32,884
They were found dead ten
miles away on another shore.
777
00:37:34,353 --> 00:37:36,322
One time,
Rene got beat up out here
778
00:37:36,455 --> 00:37:38,657
by a couple of guys who
broke a bottle over his head.
779
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:41,860
It was sad to see, but this is
the kind of stuff that happened.
780
00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:44,530
As a result of the crime problem
781
00:37:44,663 --> 00:37:47,466
the city commission
today adopted six ordinances
782
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,268
which will deal with
the situation very forcefully.
783
00:37:50,402 --> 00:37:52,571
The parks, beaches and piers
784
00:37:52,704 --> 00:37:55,240
will be closed after 10 o'clock
at night.
785
00:37:55,374 --> 00:37:57,108
The Mariel boatlift
was a negative,
786
00:37:57,242 --> 00:37:59,811
and I think it was part
of the reason
787
00:37:59,945 --> 00:38:02,247
that the pier
was taken down in '84.
788
00:38:02,381 --> 00:38:04,015
The beach was in a downfall.
789
00:38:04,149 --> 00:38:06,251
Downward spiral.
790
00:38:06,385 --> 00:38:08,320
We may not be able
to stop crime,
791
00:38:08,454 --> 00:38:10,956
but we certainly will chase
crime away from this city
792
00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:14,426
because we've sent out a
message concise and clearly
793
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,096
that crime will not pay
on Miami Beach any longer.
794
00:38:45,791 --> 00:38:48,326
The people who realize that
you contributed the money
795
00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:49,961
to make this day possible.
796
00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:52,197
I want to thank you
for being on your team
797
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:53,932
and being one of the members
of the commission
798
00:38:54,065 --> 00:38:55,367
that properly spends your money.
799
00:38:55,501 --> 00:38:57,035
The proof is in the pudding.
800
00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:58,970
When that pipe starts to flow
you'll say,
801
00:38:59,104 --> 00:39:00,906
"Well, by golly it wasn't all
for nothing."
802
00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:10,582
Yeah, that was the first time
803
00:39:10,716 --> 00:39:12,884
I ever went
to the South Beach pier.
804
00:39:13,018 --> 00:39:15,787
In probably '69 or '68.
805
00:39:17,255 --> 00:39:18,690
I was just a little kid
806
00:39:18,824 --> 00:39:20,526
and that's where
the fascination started.
807
00:39:21,927 --> 00:39:24,362
The pier was
starting to fall in disarray
808
00:39:24,496 --> 00:39:26,398
and it was going to cost like X
amount of dollars
809
00:39:26,532 --> 00:39:28,133
to fix the pier.
810
00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:29,935
So there were
people starting to voice.
811
00:39:30,068 --> 00:39:32,270
That they were disgruntled,
it was an eyesore.
812
00:39:32,404 --> 00:39:34,540
They called it an eyesore.
813
00:39:37,543 --> 00:39:39,377
The South Beach Pier
as it stands today
814
00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:41,212
is a bridge into the past.
815
00:39:41,346 --> 00:39:43,114
It's a daily reminder
of the hard times
816
00:39:43,248 --> 00:39:44,716
that has hit this area.
817
00:39:44,850 --> 00:39:46,685
Miami Beach city officials
are now trying
818
00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:48,587
to forget the bad times.
819
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,689
And the demolition of this
pier will serve as an example
820
00:39:50,822 --> 00:39:53,559
of how Miami Beach is trying
to rebuild for the future.
821
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:56,361
We were just drawn to the pier.
822
00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:58,029
It was like our home away
from home,
823
00:39:58,163 --> 00:39:59,898
it's where we wanted to be.
824
00:40:00,031 --> 00:40:01,399
That pier was our sense
of identity,
825
00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:03,234
it was part of who we were.
826
00:40:03,368 --> 00:40:05,937
And then, you know, obviously
our hearts were broken
827
00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,574
when they dredged the beach
and the pier
828
00:40:08,707 --> 00:40:10,308
eventually they tore it down.
829
00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:14,312
With virtually no discussion,
830
00:40:14,446 --> 00:40:17,082
the beach commission
approved a $125,000
831
00:40:17,215 --> 00:40:20,519
demolition plan to
clear away the old pier.
832
00:40:20,652 --> 00:40:23,755
The land will be used to
expand the beach for bathers.
833
00:40:25,591 --> 00:40:27,626
And we all kind of
broke up that whole thing.
834
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,294
Everything just kind of--
835
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,162
everyone started going
different directions.
836
00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:33,632
That was the, that was
the end of what South Beach was
837
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,635
in terms of skaters,
surfers and the shark fishermen.
838
00:40:37,969 --> 00:40:39,471
They went their own ways.
839
00:40:39,605 --> 00:40:41,807
I mean, this is
this is what happens.
840
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:44,009
No more. It was all gone.
841
00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:46,978
It was just like
memories left behind.
842
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:49,447
Then everything changed.
843
00:40:49,581 --> 00:40:51,249
Fishing was terrible.
844
00:40:51,382 --> 00:40:55,120
The migrating bait would just
pass over Government Cut
845
00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:57,556
and continue south
to warmer water.
846
00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:02,260
And then for many
years afterwards,
847
00:41:02,393 --> 00:41:03,962
it was just, like, dead.
848
00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:06,097
And it was sad,
there was nothing we could do,
849
00:41:06,231 --> 00:41:08,466
nothing we could do.
It was just happening.
850
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,869
What you had south of
Fifth Street in those days
851
00:41:11,002 --> 00:41:13,004
was something very,
very special.
852
00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:16,174
And then, you know,
once the pier was demolished,
853
00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:19,778
that was the beginning of the
end of the magic of South Beach.
854
00:41:20,378 --> 00:41:22,814
The magic tour was over.
855
00:41:22,948 --> 00:41:25,350
It was finished. That was it.
856
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:29,020
When I lost the South Beach,
I lost a piece of me.
857
00:41:29,154 --> 00:41:30,922
I went with it.
858
00:41:31,056 --> 00:41:34,492
When they tore that down,
part of my heart went with it.
859
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:36,528
Now you have to--
860
00:41:36,662 --> 00:41:38,730
You have to get creative.
861
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:42,167
You have to go to other,
other places where the fish are.
862
00:41:43,301 --> 00:41:45,336
After the pier
was knocked down in '84,
863
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:46,905
we felt so devastated.
864
00:41:47,038 --> 00:41:48,940
We had to go look
for the next big spot
865
00:41:49,074 --> 00:41:52,878
where we can fish and fish hard
and nobody bother us.
866
00:42:07,192 --> 00:42:08,660
I always get good sunset.
867
00:42:08,794 --> 00:42:09,761
Me too.
868
00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:10,896
Look at that.
869
00:42:11,029 --> 00:42:12,430
Oh, my Lord.
870
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:15,066
I told you.
871
00:42:15,634 --> 00:42:17,569
Where are the sharks at, man?
872
00:42:17,703 --> 00:42:19,270
Sometimes the bites not on.
873
00:42:19,404 --> 00:42:20,839
I'd say the bites not on.
874
00:42:20,972 --> 00:42:21,973
I think so.
875
00:42:22,107 --> 00:42:23,642
That's all right.
876
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:25,577
We'll fish a little
here and a little outgo--
877
00:42:25,711 --> 00:42:27,078
Incoming, then I'm out, partner.
878
00:42:27,212 --> 00:42:28,213
Yeah, me too.
879
00:42:28,346 --> 00:42:29,380
I'm whipped.
880
00:42:29,514 --> 00:42:30,916
You're leaving tonight?
881
00:42:46,765 --> 00:42:49,400
Well, my storytelling
gets, at this age,
882
00:42:50,001 --> 00:42:51,502
a little complicated
883
00:42:51,637 --> 00:42:53,538
because I'll be telling you
one story,
884
00:42:53,672 --> 00:42:55,206
and all of a sudden,
885
00:42:55,340 --> 00:42:57,075
I'm, like, thinking to myself,
wait a minute.
886
00:42:57,208 --> 00:43:00,746
I went from one story to two
stories, to three stories,
887
00:43:00,879 --> 00:43:04,249
and I never got to the point of
what I was trying to tell you.
888
00:43:05,050 --> 00:43:07,585
So it does get
kind of rough. It does.
889
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,222
And as far as legends,
legends can be born every day.
890
00:43:11,890 --> 00:43:14,492
It's just who's
telling the story
891
00:43:14,626 --> 00:43:16,962
about what you actually did.
892
00:43:39,484 --> 00:43:41,953
Shark Club was a positive
893
00:43:42,087 --> 00:43:45,523
for a lot of kids that didn't
have a lot of positive going on.
894
00:43:46,725 --> 00:43:49,427
Not much to look forward to
other than fishing,
895
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,763
growing up on South Beach,
it was either fishing
896
00:43:51,897 --> 00:43:53,932
or, you know you're--
you're cooped up
897
00:43:54,065 --> 00:43:56,067
in your little roach motel apartment.
898
00:43:58,937 --> 00:44:01,306
But here you are.
You're a young kid growing up.
899
00:44:01,439 --> 00:44:03,074
You're walking
from Friday Night Live
900
00:44:03,208 --> 00:44:04,843
at South Point Park
to the boardwalk.
901
00:44:04,976 --> 00:44:07,145
And these guys have
out big giant shark rods.
902
00:44:07,278 --> 00:44:08,780
You're seven years old
903
00:44:08,914 --> 00:44:10,548
and it's the biggest thrill
that there is.
904
00:44:10,682 --> 00:44:12,784
You want to stay and
hear one of these things go off.
905
00:44:12,918 --> 00:44:14,452
So it was,
it was, it was the best.
906
00:44:14,585 --> 00:44:17,188
It was, it was something
that we look forward to.
907
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:25,030
The sense of community.
It started on South Beach.
908
00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:28,099
I know it's hard to
even fathom it or see it now.
909
00:44:28,233 --> 00:44:31,302
Such a glitz and glam, you know,
plastic, materialistic.
910
00:44:31,436 --> 00:44:33,805
But back then, all those
apartments you see now
911
00:44:33,939 --> 00:44:36,808
that are art deco were all
Section 8 or housing projects.
912
00:44:36,942 --> 00:44:39,878
And in these apartments
you have lots of kids.
913
00:44:40,011 --> 00:44:41,847
So here you have
all of these kids.
914
00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:44,515
And it started on South Beach,
the South Beach Shark Club.
915
00:44:44,649 --> 00:44:46,752
So it was,
it was like a community.
916
00:44:46,885 --> 00:44:49,320
It was all of us. We were
all going to do the same thing.
917
00:44:49,454 --> 00:44:50,922
Everybody jump out of school,
918
00:44:51,056 --> 00:44:53,158
haul ass, and run to the
boardwalk, you know,
919
00:44:53,291 --> 00:44:55,660
to see Rene, Hammer
and all the old guys
920
00:44:55,794 --> 00:44:57,295
shark fishing on South Beach.
921
00:45:04,936 --> 00:45:07,005
Here, this is like
the last thing we have.
922
00:45:07,138 --> 00:45:08,874
Right here, the Keys bridges
923
00:45:09,007 --> 00:45:10,842
is the last
thing we have to where
924
00:45:10,976 --> 00:45:12,577
there's no drawbridge,
there's no gate,
925
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:14,946
there's no conformity,
there's no security.
926
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,550
We get to go out, be with 30 of
our friends and do what we love.
927
00:45:19,684 --> 00:45:22,287
Hear those rods go off,
fish, shark fish.
928
00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:24,189
And that was South Beach in--
929
00:45:24,756 --> 00:45:26,191
Shark?
930
00:45:27,826 --> 00:45:29,394
Shark, shark, shark.
931
00:45:29,995 --> 00:45:31,229
Shark, shark, shark.
932
00:45:34,032 --> 00:45:35,266
You guys ready? You rolling?
933
00:45:43,208 --> 00:45:45,210
The craft and the art
of shark fishing from land
934
00:45:45,343 --> 00:45:47,612
is that you are immovable.
935
00:45:47,745 --> 00:45:49,981
You can't get in a boat
and chase the shark.
936
00:45:50,115 --> 00:45:53,218
So you have to contend with
having a high capacity reel
937
00:45:53,351 --> 00:45:55,120
that has heavy line.
938
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:56,888
And then it's going
be you against that beast.
939
00:45:57,022 --> 00:45:58,523
You've got to be able
to stop that fish
940
00:45:58,656 --> 00:45:59,791
before it takes all your line.
941
00:45:59,925 --> 00:46:01,259
That becomes a challenge.
942
00:46:06,164 --> 00:46:09,367
It's not the same as
catching a snapper or a snook.
943
00:46:09,835 --> 00:46:13,104
You're dealing with an animal
that's large and dangerous.
944
00:46:13,238 --> 00:46:15,573
It's very difficult to
get these large specimens.
945
00:46:15,706 --> 00:46:18,243
It takes skill and knowledge.
946
00:46:22,948 --> 00:46:27,986
It's one thing to watch
a show about fishing
947
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:29,420
or sharks and whatnot.
948
00:46:29,554 --> 00:46:31,823
It's another
to actually be there
949
00:46:31,957 --> 00:46:34,325
and seeing what actually occurs
950
00:46:34,459 --> 00:46:38,629
and seeing how your body
either freezes in the moment
951
00:46:38,763 --> 00:46:44,903
that you don't know which way
to turn and before you know it,
952
00:46:46,271 --> 00:46:47,873
you don't come back.
953
00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:57,215
Shark fishing,
it's kind of like 12 rounds,
954
00:46:57,348 --> 00:46:59,184
you know, when you hook the fish
955
00:46:59,317 --> 00:47:01,686
you're in a 12 round battle,
even if it's a six foot shark
956
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:03,922
or a it's a twelve foot shark.
957
00:47:04,055 --> 00:47:05,756
You're still running around,
you're huffing and puffing.
958
00:47:05,891 --> 00:47:07,358
You know,
sometimes they take 20 minutes
959
00:47:07,492 --> 00:47:09,961
and sometimes they take,
you know, six hours.
960
00:48:10,055 --> 00:48:12,390
Shark fishing has
stayed good in the Keys
961
00:48:13,524 --> 00:48:16,727
for all the years
that I've fished here.
962
00:48:16,861 --> 00:48:21,099
Those bridges,
are for us, the only real place
963
00:48:21,232 --> 00:48:23,301
your average fisherman,
your regular fisherman
964
00:48:23,434 --> 00:48:25,036
who doesn't have millions
of dollars
965
00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:27,638
to have a boat
are allowed to fish.
966
00:48:30,608 --> 00:48:33,611
Now that I'm retired,
this is my second home
967
00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:37,415
and I'm never at home.
968
00:48:37,548 --> 00:48:39,684
So I'm here-- more
here than I am at home.
969
00:48:40,518 --> 00:48:42,053
And I love it.
970
00:48:42,187 --> 00:48:43,588
I don't care if I catch a fish.
971
00:48:43,721 --> 00:48:45,023
Are you kidding me?
972
00:48:45,156 --> 00:48:47,959
I won't even put my rod out.
973
00:48:48,093 --> 00:48:50,328
It doesn't matter if I catch.
974
00:48:50,461 --> 00:48:52,163
It's just that I'm here.
975
00:48:53,631 --> 00:48:55,600
And when I know I'm going
fishing with Hammer,
976
00:48:55,733 --> 00:48:58,303
just to Long Key bridge,
just on that bridge,
977
00:48:58,436 --> 00:49:02,573
I get so giddy inside
like I am so excited and happy.
978
00:49:02,707 --> 00:49:04,409
Like it's it's
a kid on Christmas.
979
00:49:04,542 --> 00:49:06,111
Like, it was my first time
980
00:49:06,244 --> 00:49:08,913
every time, to go
fishing with the old man. Now.
981
00:49:10,215 --> 00:49:12,617
And to a lot of the young guys,
they show a lot of respect
982
00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:14,219
and reverence
for the old teacher
983
00:49:14,352 --> 00:49:16,487
and hard core guy
that's still doing it
984
00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:18,489
even after close to 70 years.
985
00:49:20,525 --> 00:49:22,994
- Hammer's the best man.
- No. Don't say that.
986
00:49:23,128 --> 00:49:24,962
Hammer's the best all around
fisherman I ever met.
987
00:49:25,096 --> 00:49:27,465
- No, no.
- 100%
988
00:49:27,598 --> 00:49:29,634
I wouldn't say that.
989
00:49:30,835 --> 00:49:32,803
When I,
when I say how good I am,
990
00:49:32,937 --> 00:49:36,274
I say just to put me
in a nutshell,
991
00:49:36,407 --> 00:49:39,744
I'm one of the best. I never,
never say that I'm the best.
992
00:49:39,877 --> 00:49:41,979
Because guess what?
993
00:49:42,113 --> 00:49:45,616
There's always somebody
out there way better than you.
994
00:49:46,551 --> 00:49:47,985
And I've met him, so
995
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:49,954
that's why I
can't say I'm the best.
996
00:49:55,293 --> 00:49:57,962
This was Rene's favorite bridge.
997
00:49:58,096 --> 00:49:59,730
Me, I wasn't
that type of fisherman.
998
00:49:59,864 --> 00:50:02,567
Rene would stay in one
spot for three or four days
999
00:50:03,468 --> 00:50:04,835
and die out here.
1000
00:50:04,969 --> 00:50:07,004
The heat, the mosquitoes.
1001
00:50:07,138 --> 00:50:10,441
Me, I'd move around, hop around
from one bridge to another.
1002
00:50:10,575 --> 00:50:12,943
So, we were two
different kind of fishermen.
1003
00:50:14,412 --> 00:50:16,447
But no doubt, he was the best.
1004
00:50:17,082 --> 00:50:19,317
And in my mind,
he'll always be the best.
1005
00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:22,153
There's nobody
that could out fish Rene.
1006
00:50:23,154 --> 00:50:24,355
And that's true.
1007
00:50:24,489 --> 00:50:26,591
That's a true story right there.
1008
00:50:29,494 --> 00:50:31,896
Who's getting tired?
You or it? You!
1009
00:50:33,831 --> 00:50:36,101
- He will get tired.
- Yeah.
1010
00:50:36,234 --> 00:50:40,838
Rene! Rene! The big one,
I told you, Seven Mile Bridge.
1011
00:50:40,971 --> 00:50:43,641
Even more so after the
pier was knocked down in '84,
1012
00:50:43,774 --> 00:50:46,244
the bridges became
like our second home.
1013
00:50:48,479 --> 00:50:50,715
We'd pack up the cars
with rods, stinky bait.
1014
00:50:50,848 --> 00:50:52,817
And by Friday night,
we were on the road,
1015
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:56,053
like on a convoy of
six to eight different cars.
1016
00:50:56,187 --> 00:50:59,257
We had to go seeking
other areas, maybe driving
1017
00:50:59,390 --> 00:51:01,226
four or five hours at a time
1018
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:03,428
just to get
to where the fish are.
1019
00:51:03,561 --> 00:51:07,598
I went to Naples,
Sebastian, Key West.
1020
00:51:07,732 --> 00:51:09,600
You know how many
people lined up
1021
00:51:09,734 --> 00:51:12,170
to go to the Keys with Rene
in his van?
1022
00:51:12,303 --> 00:51:13,604
Hundreds.
1023
00:51:13,738 --> 00:51:15,506
Guess how many made it?
1024
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,542
three or four,
every time he went.
1025
00:51:18,643 --> 00:51:20,111
If you wanted to be
in his little clique,
1026
00:51:20,245 --> 00:51:21,746
or his little party
1027
00:51:21,879 --> 00:51:23,681
then you would have
to go under his umbrella.
1028
00:51:23,814 --> 00:51:25,450
You couldn't have a rod
bigger than him,
1029
00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:27,084
you couldn't fish
as much as him.
1030
00:51:27,218 --> 00:51:28,953
You know, there's certain
things you could do
1031
00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:30,788
and you couldn't do.
1032
00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:33,090
He always wanted to be
at the top of his game,
1033
00:51:33,224 --> 00:51:35,126
and he didn't want to be outdone
by anybody.
1034
00:51:35,726 --> 00:51:37,895
He didn't want anybody
catching a bigger shark
1035
00:51:38,028 --> 00:51:39,597
than him, outdoing him.
1036
00:51:39,730 --> 00:51:41,065
And all he talked about
was shark fishing
1037
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:42,533
and being the best.
1038
00:51:42,667 --> 00:51:44,034
And "I'm number one."
1039
00:51:44,169 --> 00:51:46,404
And he would tell you,
"I'm number one."
1040
00:51:47,705 --> 00:51:49,640
He always
wanted to be numero uno.
1041
00:51:49,774 --> 00:51:52,076
The biggest shark,
the most sharks.
1042
00:51:52,210 --> 00:51:54,078
He's always been number one.
1043
00:51:54,212 --> 00:51:56,614
Number one has always been Rene.
1044
00:51:56,747 --> 00:51:59,016
Rene would have these clashes.
Like who was number one?
1045
00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:00,651
"I'm number one.
1046
00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:02,487
"I'm the Kahuna. You're wiener.
1047
00:52:02,620 --> 00:52:05,022
"You get the fucking shit.
You take out my bait."
1048
00:52:05,156 --> 00:52:06,824
He became possessed with it.
1049
00:52:06,957 --> 00:52:09,794
Down with the wieners
and up with the Kahunas.
1050
00:52:09,927 --> 00:52:13,130
People were terrified of Rene.
Rene put fear of death into you.
1051
00:52:13,764 --> 00:52:16,167
He would even cut your line off
if you had a shark on
1052
00:52:16,301 --> 00:52:18,336
so he could get his shark.
1053
00:52:18,469 --> 00:52:20,305
Whatever he had to do,
he was going to win
1054
00:52:20,438 --> 00:52:22,072
by hook or by crook.
1055
00:52:22,207 --> 00:52:24,475
I guess some people
would call him arrogant
1056
00:52:24,609 --> 00:52:27,478
or he made everybody
think that he was number one,
1057
00:52:27,612 --> 00:52:29,780
but like he'd rub it
in your face and tell you.
1058
00:52:29,914 --> 00:52:31,649
But he would really do it.
1059
00:52:31,782 --> 00:52:34,519
He'd go to the extreme,
even sometimes bend the rules.
1060
00:52:34,652 --> 00:52:36,120
World record!
1061
00:52:36,254 --> 00:52:38,055
Look at the size of this shit!
1062
00:52:39,490 --> 00:52:40,858
Rene was very competitive.
1063
00:52:40,991 --> 00:52:43,294
Do whatever he had to do
to get it done.
1064
00:52:44,262 --> 00:52:46,964
He would risk life
and limb to catch a shark.
1065
00:52:47,765 --> 00:52:50,100
This guy would hook a
shark and he'd be like,
1066
00:52:50,235 --> 00:52:52,203
"Hey! Tell those
motherfuckers to move!
1067
00:52:52,337 --> 00:52:54,972
"Cut the line!" He'd
come and cut people's lines.
1068
00:52:55,105 --> 00:52:56,441
And I'm like a kid, I'm like,
1069
00:52:56,574 --> 00:52:58,276
"Oh, my God,
we're dying tonight."
1070
00:52:59,076 --> 00:53:02,647
Once I started fishing the
Keys with JD and watching Rene
1071
00:53:02,780 --> 00:53:05,483
and fishing with Rene
and seeing what these guys do.
1072
00:53:05,883 --> 00:53:07,585
And I just took
it to the next level.
1073
00:53:07,718 --> 00:53:10,020
Now I'm in the Keys,
now I'm in his house.
1074
00:53:10,688 --> 00:53:14,425
He pushed everybody to
be like him or to praise him
1075
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:18,329
because he was so driven
at such a young age to do this.
1076
00:53:18,463 --> 00:53:20,865
So it was that drive
that people saw in Rene,
1077
00:53:20,998 --> 00:53:23,634
that drove other
people to become like Rene.
1078
00:53:23,768 --> 00:53:25,236
We just wanted to catch sharks.
1079
00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:27,305
That's all we wanted
to do is catch sharks.
1080
00:53:27,438 --> 00:53:30,275
Our ultimate goal was to catch a
shark and just to shut Rene up.
1081
00:53:31,008 --> 00:53:32,543
And it was very hard to do.
1082
00:53:32,677 --> 00:53:34,545
And some of us lost our jobs.
1083
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:36,247
Some of us lost our wives.
1084
00:53:36,381 --> 00:53:38,949
But some of us,
you know, did it.
1085
00:53:40,017 --> 00:53:42,620
Some of us did it. And I...
1086
00:53:42,753 --> 00:53:44,455
and I was one of them, I guess.
1087
00:53:49,527 --> 00:53:53,163
Well, what happened was
Rene caught his giant hammer,
1088
00:53:53,698 --> 00:53:56,501
and then all of a sudden,
here's a rookie.
1089
00:53:57,067 --> 00:54:00,104
His first shark was a black tip.
1090
00:54:00,237 --> 00:54:04,409
His second shark
was an 800 pound tiger
1091
00:54:04,542 --> 00:54:09,113
that blew Rene's,
only in weight, hammerhead away.
1092
00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:11,282
And from then on, remember,
1093
00:54:11,416 --> 00:54:14,251
there's only one room
for number one,
1094
00:54:14,385 --> 00:54:16,487
you can't have two number ones.
1095
00:54:16,621 --> 00:54:19,357
And these guys fought
1096
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:21,025
like you wouldn't believe.
1097
00:54:21,158 --> 00:54:23,093
They both
wanted to be number one.
1098
00:54:23,227 --> 00:54:26,130
Kevin turned into a mini Rene.
1099
00:54:28,533 --> 00:54:29,800
My name is Kevin Pagan.
1100
00:54:30,368 --> 00:54:33,504
And I came just
about 12 o'clock afternoon.
1101
00:54:34,204 --> 00:54:35,640
I took out a bait
1102
00:54:36,073 --> 00:54:38,343
and about 5:30, 5 o'clock
this morning, I got hit.
1103
00:54:39,076 --> 00:54:41,446
Fought him for
about two and a half hours.
1104
00:54:41,579 --> 00:54:44,114
Had 100 pound test,
pulled some good drag,
1105
00:54:44,715 --> 00:54:46,116
couldn't stop him at first.
1106
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:47,785
Thought I was going to lose him,
you know,
1107
00:54:47,918 --> 00:54:49,787
it was really burning me a lot.
1108
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,557
So I just put a little
technique I invented on him
1109
00:54:53,123 --> 00:54:55,493
and just stop him cold,
turn him on the beach,
1110
00:54:55,626 --> 00:54:57,595
just brought him right in.
1111
00:54:58,963 --> 00:55:00,130
Where are we right now?
1112
00:55:00,264 --> 00:55:02,066
We're on South Beach.
1113
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:03,401
On the new pier.
1114
00:55:03,534 --> 00:55:05,202
The pier they built after
1115
00:55:05,336 --> 00:55:07,972
they knocked down the old
pier or they reconstructed it.
1116
00:55:08,105 --> 00:55:10,675
When I was his age,
we used to come out here.
1117
00:55:10,808 --> 00:55:12,510
There used to be a boardwalk
that ran
1118
00:55:12,643 --> 00:55:14,879
from the end of that pier
all the way across.
1119
00:55:15,012 --> 00:55:18,549
And when I was his age, they had
Friday Night Live right there.
1120
00:55:18,683 --> 00:55:21,852
It was a live
stage for live jazz music.
1121
00:55:21,986 --> 00:55:25,289
They had bounce houses,
vending for food,
1122
00:55:25,423 --> 00:55:27,091
and we'd sneak away
from our parents.
1123
00:55:27,224 --> 00:55:29,093
It would happen every night.
1124
00:55:29,226 --> 00:55:31,295
All of these guys would be
shark fishing on the boardwalk.
1125
00:55:32,229 --> 00:55:34,699
And it's sites like this
that are keeping some swimmers
1126
00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:39,404
away from the beach, but drawing
dozens of shark hunters to it.
1127
00:55:39,537 --> 00:55:42,540
This is the scene
tonight out on South Point pier.
1128
00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:44,475
We'd all go there
1129
00:55:44,609 --> 00:55:47,412
and once it was dark,
everybody knew Rene, Hammer,
1130
00:55:47,545 --> 00:55:49,847
everybody would be taking out
shark baits on the boardwalk.
1131
00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:51,549
So like that walk over there,
1132
00:55:51,682 --> 00:55:53,384
you're like as a kid,
you're like,
1133
00:55:53,518 --> 00:55:55,386
"Oh my God. Are they going
to catch a shark tonight?"
1134
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,854
You'll never
forget hearing that--
1135
00:55:58,322 --> 00:55:59,690
from those senators.
1136
00:55:59,824 --> 00:56:01,992
You'll relive that sound,
and it's it.
1137
00:56:02,527 --> 00:56:04,695
It reminds me of
what got me into it.
1138
00:56:05,663 --> 00:56:07,598
My name's Kevin Pagan.
1139
00:56:07,732 --> 00:56:10,735
I'm a shark fishermen here from
the South Florida Shark Club.
1140
00:56:12,236 --> 00:56:15,072
Again, the pier was a magnet.
You know, it was like a hub.
1141
00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:17,942
Everybody would
actually go and hang out.
1142
00:56:18,075 --> 00:56:20,044
The boardwalk
became that later on.
1143
00:56:20,177 --> 00:56:22,747
But not too many
people knew about it.
1144
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,382
I felt it was important for me
to continue that legacy
1145
00:56:25,516 --> 00:56:27,518
of shark fishing in Miami Beach.
1146
00:56:27,652 --> 00:56:30,354
So we carried a little bit of
what we were doing on the pier
1147
00:56:30,488 --> 00:56:34,091
over to the boardwalk, and
that was just a continuation.
1148
00:56:34,224 --> 00:56:36,494
And I guess Kevin Pagan
was like the last hardcore
1149
00:56:36,627 --> 00:56:39,296
shark fishermen that wanted
to make a name for himself.
1150
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:42,232
Rene has always
been competition.
1151
00:56:42,366 --> 00:56:44,201
You know, as I was growing up,
1152
00:56:44,334 --> 00:56:45,803
I just didn't feel intimidated
by him anymore.
1153
00:56:45,936 --> 00:56:47,772
And I wasn't scared of him.
1154
00:56:47,905 --> 00:56:49,607
The way that
Rene would say it is,
1155
00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:52,042
"Man, this little punk man.
He's always on my ass."
1156
00:56:52,176 --> 00:56:53,844
He would call me Calvin.
1157
00:56:53,978 --> 00:56:55,713
Calvin, my name's Kevin.
1158
00:56:55,846 --> 00:56:58,616
"He follows me around.
He wants to be like me.
1159
00:56:58,749 --> 00:57:00,384
"This Calvin, you know.
1160
00:57:00,518 --> 00:57:02,587
"I fish South Beach,
he's there in South Beach.
1161
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,455
"He's always in the hole."
1162
00:57:04,589 --> 00:57:06,524
And Kevin was still trying to,
like, put his chest out
1163
00:57:06,657 --> 00:57:08,292
and show, "Man I'm out here,
you know,
1164
00:57:08,425 --> 00:57:10,094
"I'm going to catch big sharks
like you guys."
1165
00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:11,962
But really didn't have
anything to show for it yet.
1166
00:57:12,096 --> 00:57:13,598
Beautiful night tonight.
1167
00:57:13,731 --> 00:57:15,165
And we're glad that
1168
00:57:15,299 --> 00:57:17,067
we're waiting for the loser,
Kevin Pagan.
1169
00:57:17,201 --> 00:57:19,303
We're waiting for Kevin
to come out on the bridge.
1170
00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:20,771
Mr. Know it all.
1171
00:57:20,905 --> 00:57:22,272
No, let him stay right
where he is.
1172
00:57:22,406 --> 00:57:23,674
Mr. Know it all.
1173
00:57:27,612 --> 00:57:29,914
That 14 foot hammer,
he was always bragging about it
1174
00:57:30,047 --> 00:57:32,617
and he was always telling me--
And, you know, he's number one.
1175
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:34,485
No one can ever beat him.
1176
00:57:34,619 --> 00:57:36,654
And then all of a sudden,
here I come.
1177
00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:38,989
He was like Rene's Gino,
you could say,
1178
00:57:39,123 --> 00:57:43,093
but then his fucking third shark
or whatever it was, he catches
1179
00:57:43,227 --> 00:57:46,363
the biggest tiger
ever caught on Miami Beach.
1180
00:57:46,831 --> 00:57:48,599
And the night before,
while he was out
1181
00:57:48,733 --> 00:57:50,467
on the boardwalk shark fishing,
1182
00:57:50,601 --> 00:57:52,703
a guy pulled out a
knife and cut open his stomach.
1183
00:57:52,837 --> 00:57:55,506
Filet knife right across here.
1184
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,808
Yeah, we were having a
little party on the boardwalk
1185
00:57:57,942 --> 00:58:00,410
and I got into an
altercation with a gentleman,
1186
00:58:01,078 --> 00:58:03,413
and he came back
with a knife and cut me.
1187
00:58:04,949 --> 00:58:06,951
So Kevin called the ambulance,
the ambulance came,
1188
00:58:07,084 --> 00:58:08,619
they stitched him up.
1189
00:58:08,753 --> 00:58:10,254
The next day, I call Kevin.
1190
00:58:10,387 --> 00:58:14,058
"Kevin, let's go.
Let's fish South Beach."
1191
00:58:14,191 --> 00:58:16,226
He goes, "Hammer I don't know
if I can man,
1192
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,895
"I'm messed up."
1193
00:58:18,028 --> 00:58:21,566
"I go, I'll take the bus,
I'll go get the bait,
1194
00:58:21,699 --> 00:58:23,400
"I'll take your bait out
on a surfboard
1195
00:58:23,534 --> 00:58:25,502
"because I know
you're messed up."
1196
00:58:25,636 --> 00:58:27,104
And guess what?
1197
00:58:27,237 --> 00:58:29,006
That's when he got his Tiger.
1198
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,375
He's so possessed
with shark fishing
1199
00:58:31,508 --> 00:58:33,644
that he went fishing
the next day.
1200
00:58:33,778 --> 00:58:36,313
And when he hooked that tiger,
he has like his belly cut open
1201
00:58:36,446 --> 00:58:38,382
fighting the tiger shark.
1202
00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:41,118
I was going over the rail,
I was sliding down the boardwalk
1203
00:58:41,251 --> 00:58:43,554
with this rod
and JD loosened the line
1204
00:58:43,688 --> 00:58:45,990
and that thing just started
taking off.
1205
00:58:48,626 --> 00:58:50,928
So I remember taking that rod
and reeling it all the way,
1206
00:58:51,061 --> 00:58:52,997
pretty much to the beach.
1207
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:54,498
He got stuck on the sandbar
1208
00:58:54,632 --> 00:58:56,033
and when that fish
was on the sandbar
1209
00:58:56,166 --> 00:58:57,635
and it was just splashing.
1210
00:58:57,768 --> 00:58:59,336
I just saw huge
amounts of water.
1211
00:58:59,469 --> 00:59:02,139
It was dark, we couldn't
really see, but that shark
1212
00:59:02,272 --> 00:59:03,874
I knew it was
a little bit bigger
1213
00:59:04,008 --> 00:59:05,710
than what I've ever hooked,
what I ever caught.
1214
00:59:05,843 --> 00:59:07,477
A lifeguard
told him about sharks
1215
00:59:07,612 --> 00:59:09,079
frolicking just off shore
of South Beach
1216
00:59:09,213 --> 00:59:11,081
for the past few mornings.
1217
00:59:11,215 --> 00:59:13,884
He caught it right off the pier.
Surprise to swimmers maybe.
1218
00:59:14,018 --> 00:59:16,721
No surprise to this
Shark Club fisherman.
1219
00:59:16,854 --> 00:59:18,422
I really wanted
to beat that record.
1220
00:59:18,555 --> 00:59:20,691
I knew I could because,
1221
00:59:20,825 --> 00:59:22,392
you know, records
are meant to be broken
1222
00:59:22,526 --> 00:59:23,928
and all these other guys are
telling me,
1223
00:59:24,061 --> 00:59:25,630
you know,
I saw another shark you know.
1224
00:59:25,763 --> 00:59:28,098
Last year I saw a bigger
one and they're out there.
1225
00:59:28,232 --> 00:59:30,500
You just got to be at the
right place at the right time.
1226
00:59:30,635 --> 00:59:32,703
And I never knew what that
right time, and right place was,
1227
00:59:32,837 --> 00:59:34,739
so I fished every
single day until we got him.
1228
00:59:38,175 --> 00:59:41,278
Everybody even till
today thinks it was Rene on that
1229
00:59:41,712 --> 00:59:44,281
with the tiger, because Rene
was in every single picture,
1230
00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:46,884
he was talking on the news,
he stole the show.
1231
00:59:47,017 --> 00:59:48,953
Rene was definitely bothered
1232
00:59:49,086 --> 00:59:50,755
if you took a little bit
of his spotlight.
1233
00:59:50,888 --> 00:59:52,122
He didn't like that.
1234
00:59:52,857 --> 00:59:54,591
He couldn't stand to be beaten.
1235
00:59:54,725 --> 00:59:57,628
He had been undone by a
young guy that's showing him off
1236
00:59:57,762 --> 00:59:59,596
and he was just
driven to go out there
1237
00:59:59,730 --> 01:00:01,298
and fish harder.
1238
01:00:01,431 --> 01:00:03,133
He's going to have to
bring his own Gino now.
1239
01:00:03,267 --> 01:00:05,102
Yeah, that's it...
1240
01:00:05,235 --> 01:00:06,570
All right.
1241
01:00:06,704 --> 01:00:08,605
That's really nuts...
1242
01:00:08,739 --> 01:00:10,775
Number one man. Number one.
1243
01:00:10,908 --> 01:00:13,077
Number one.
1244
01:00:13,210 --> 01:00:15,079
- The new number one.
- South Beach!
1245
01:00:15,212 --> 01:00:17,414
Number one man, number one.
1246
01:00:19,216 --> 01:00:22,586
While one fisherman's good luck
is always another misfortune.
1247
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,823
But you can bet Rene de Dios
will be back next year
1248
01:00:25,956 --> 01:00:29,159
in pursuit of
the biggest sharks.
1249
01:00:38,068 --> 01:00:39,737
Was there a dark side to Rene?
1250
01:00:41,638 --> 01:00:43,841
There's a dark
side to all of us.
1251
01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:46,811
You know, sometimes we drink,
sometimes we have frustrations.
1252
01:00:47,611 --> 01:00:51,181
Sometimes we look to set a goal
1253
01:00:51,682 --> 01:00:55,352
of the very high
standard and all of a sudden
1254
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:59,389
that one fish that
you really wanted to land,
1255
01:00:59,924 --> 01:01:02,359
you saw it. You looked at him.
1256
01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:03,593
He looked at you.
1257
01:01:03,728 --> 01:01:05,996
Your eyes connected.
1258
01:01:06,130 --> 01:01:08,432
You were right there.
1259
01:01:08,565 --> 01:01:12,269
And that line just snapped.
1260
01:01:12,402 --> 01:01:14,138
And it kills your heart.
1261
01:01:14,271 --> 01:01:17,775
It just breaks it, and
you never saw that fish again.
1262
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:29,053
Rene wanted to
do everything right
1263
01:01:29,186 --> 01:01:32,723
so that when the moment or
the opportunity presented itself
1264
01:01:32,857 --> 01:01:36,193
of hooking the big one,
1265
01:01:36,326 --> 01:01:39,496
nothing would fail
as far as the equipment
1266
01:01:39,629 --> 01:01:44,802
and nothing would fail as far as
the man behind the reel.
1267
01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:49,406
Rene actually had problems
in Bahamas with a shark.
1268
01:01:49,539 --> 01:01:50,841
That it actually sunk his boat.
1269
01:01:52,142 --> 01:01:54,344
I know that sounds like a...
1270
01:01:54,478 --> 01:01:57,848
when the story came up
on the beach I said ah, Rene's
1271
01:01:59,249 --> 01:02:02,086
doing his acting again.
But no, no.
1272
01:02:03,253 --> 01:02:05,555
He wasn't acting,
he hooked a big one.
1273
01:02:05,689 --> 01:02:09,426
He sunk, sunk this
guy's boat in the Bahamas
1274
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:11,195
because he hooked a great white.
1275
01:02:11,328 --> 01:02:13,197
He ugh,
actually he and Luis did,
1276
01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:15,032
they said they
had a great white.
1277
01:02:15,165 --> 01:02:17,434
He would just tell you about,
the thing was a monster,
1278
01:02:17,567 --> 01:02:19,069
it came up next to the boat.
1279
01:02:19,203 --> 01:02:21,438
The stomach
looked like two barrels.
1280
01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:23,307
And the guy's
looking at him, like,
1281
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,309
"Man, my boat's sinking."
The guy wanted to cut his line.
1282
01:02:25,442 --> 01:02:27,244
The guy knew
if you cut Rene's line,
1283
01:02:27,377 --> 01:02:28,879
you're probably going to die.
1284
01:02:29,013 --> 01:02:30,314
Like he's probably
going to kill you bro.
1285
01:02:30,447 --> 01:02:32,149
His one chance
with a great white.
1286
01:02:32,282 --> 01:02:34,418
So they sunk, and he's out in
the middle of floating
1287
01:02:34,551 --> 01:02:37,087
in the water for days because
Rene didn't want to cut his line
1288
01:02:37,221 --> 01:02:38,789
with a great white.
1289
01:02:38,923 --> 01:02:41,291
"20 foot shark drags--
capsizes fishing boat."
1290
01:02:43,427 --> 01:02:47,297
I believe the story, I believe--
I know that it happened.
1291
01:02:47,832 --> 01:02:51,068
To Luis it was almost
like a life and death thing.
1292
01:02:51,201 --> 01:02:54,104
To Rene, it was like his
biggest adventure to that time.
1293
01:02:57,041 --> 01:02:58,809
From the beginning
that trip was kind of,
1294
01:02:58,943 --> 01:03:00,610
you know, kind of,
we went through, like,
1295
01:03:00,744 --> 01:03:02,412
it was the nightmare trip.
1296
01:03:02,546 --> 01:03:05,282
I think we left
around 11 o'clock at night.
1297
01:03:05,415 --> 01:03:07,051
in this little 20 footer.
1298
01:03:07,184 --> 01:03:09,419
You know, me and Rene,
"Luis, we going to go?"
1299
01:03:09,553 --> 01:03:11,588
I said, "No matter what we're
going to go no matter what."
1300
01:03:11,721 --> 01:03:13,924
Rough. It took us like, I don't
know, like three and a half,
1301
01:03:14,058 --> 01:03:15,559
four hours to get there.
1302
01:03:15,692 --> 01:03:17,394
We were all wet. Next day.
1303
01:03:17,527 --> 01:03:19,329
We're all like, you know,
miserable really,
1304
01:03:19,463 --> 01:03:21,098
all wet, me and Rene.
1305
01:03:21,231 --> 01:03:23,467
And Rene got all these fishing
rods on the floor.
1306
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,336
You know, his big reels that he
use for shark fishing.
1307
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:29,139
And from there on,
we went to catch bait, whatever.
1308
01:03:29,273 --> 01:03:30,975
We went fishing.
1309
01:03:31,108 --> 01:03:33,210
We were doing great that day.
We were catching fish,
1310
01:03:33,343 --> 01:03:35,012
like you don't believe,
we we're catching groupers
1311
01:03:35,145 --> 01:03:36,847
and you know, everything was
going great.
1312
01:03:36,981 --> 01:03:38,515
We had that cooler
full of fish already.
1313
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,084
So you know what?
1314
01:03:40,217 --> 01:03:41,852
"We're taking a
little break here, Rene."
1315
01:03:41,986 --> 01:03:44,121
That day we had a huge bait.
1316
01:03:44,254 --> 01:03:46,456
You know, one of those huge
Cudas, big you know.
1317
01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:49,126
And Rene's like, "Can I
put that whole thing out there?"
1318
01:03:49,259 --> 01:03:51,095
"You can do whatever you want,
buddy, you know?"
1319
01:03:51,228 --> 01:03:52,930
So Rene's like, "Okay,
Luis, I can do this now?"
1320
01:03:53,063 --> 01:03:54,564
I said, "Go ahead buddy, do it".
1321
01:03:54,698 --> 01:03:56,867
So he put this
big ass bait out there.
1322
01:03:57,001 --> 01:03:59,403
Something like
this kind of reel we had.
1323
01:03:59,536 --> 01:04:01,906
You know a little more older,
but, like, you know,
1324
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,974
like the movie Jaws, same reel.
1325
01:04:04,108 --> 01:04:05,809
Same reel from the movie
Jaws really,
1326
01:04:05,943 --> 01:04:07,711
that's what we were using.
The same reel.
1327
01:04:09,479 --> 01:04:11,815
I mean top of the line,
whatever, heavy duty stuff.
1328
01:04:11,949 --> 01:04:13,884
No little shit, Rene don't
mess around with this stuff.
1329
01:04:14,018 --> 01:04:16,120
Well nothing, we're having
a little break there
1330
01:04:16,253 --> 01:04:18,022
a little lunch. The reel went--
1331
01:04:18,155 --> 01:04:20,124
Like that.
1332
01:04:20,257 --> 01:04:22,159
I looked at that reel.
My buddy James looked at me.
1333
01:04:22,292 --> 01:04:24,161
I looked at him.
1334
01:04:24,294 --> 01:04:27,497
He goes, "Eh, little shark out
there messing with this bait."
1335
01:04:27,631 --> 01:04:29,166
"You know, don't even bother."
1336
01:04:29,299 --> 01:04:31,001
Rene's like, "Hey Luis, I'm
getting a hit!"
1337
01:04:31,135 --> 01:04:33,070
"Hey Rene, little nurse shark
or whatever under there.
1338
01:04:33,203 --> 01:04:34,738
"Come on, give me a break.
1339
01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:36,240
"We taking a little
break over here buddy.
1340
01:04:36,373 --> 01:04:37,607
"Give me a break, you know."
1341
01:04:40,144 --> 01:04:41,745
That rod goes
just like that again.
1342
01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:44,915
I'm like, uh oh. I look
at my buddy James, I go,
1343
01:04:45,049 --> 01:04:46,883
"Hey, something big is in there
eating that bait."
1344
01:04:47,017 --> 01:04:48,986
"Really Luis?" I said,
"Listen, something is there."
1345
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:51,521
Rene, "Luis,
he's taking my bait!"
1346
01:04:51,655 --> 01:04:54,524
And this time that reel is
just going--
1347
01:04:54,658 --> 01:04:56,360
I'm like, "Lock him up Rene.
1348
01:04:56,493 --> 01:04:58,562
"Lock him up, let's put
the- hook him, hook him!"
1349
01:04:58,695 --> 01:05:00,430
"Luis, I'm
going to hook him now."
1350
01:05:00,564 --> 01:05:02,732
I said, "Hook him, hook him,
put the hook on him, Rene.
1351
01:05:02,866 --> 01:05:04,768
"Set the hook on him, set him!
1352
01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:07,137
Rene just set that hook on him.
We had a little fighting chair
1353
01:05:07,271 --> 01:05:09,139
similar to this fighting chair here.
1354
01:05:09,273 --> 01:05:11,308
When he set that hook on that
fish the whole fighting chair,
1355
01:05:11,441 --> 01:05:13,677
I saw the whole bottom of the
fighting chair bending on me.
1356
01:05:13,810 --> 01:05:15,712
The whole thing bent,
the line and everything.
1357
01:05:17,581 --> 01:05:20,850
I'm like, "What! Holy shit!"
1358
01:05:20,985 --> 01:05:22,886
And that reel
started smoking on us.
1359
01:05:23,020 --> 01:05:27,791
I mean smoking. I mean,
"Get me some water now!"
1360
01:05:27,924 --> 01:05:30,494
I'm like, "Okay buddy," and ran
and get him some fresh water.
1361
01:05:30,627 --> 01:05:32,296
If we don't do it,
we melt the line.
1362
01:05:32,429 --> 01:05:34,298
You know, the line will melt.
You know that.
1363
01:05:34,431 --> 01:05:36,800
I know people don't see it,
but when you got a big fish
1364
01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:38,969
I see line melting on me.
Melting, like, like butter.
1365
01:05:39,103 --> 01:05:40,770
They melt.
So, you have to be careful.
1366
01:05:40,904 --> 01:05:42,939
You have to keep that line cold
and the reel cold.
1367
01:05:43,073 --> 01:05:45,209
And then I know, you know,
we're losing light now.
1368
01:05:45,342 --> 01:05:48,778
Now the fish.
We fish in 126 feet of water,
1369
01:05:48,912 --> 01:05:51,781
its a ledge right in front of
us, a 400 foot ledge.
1370
01:05:51,915 --> 01:05:54,118
I know now,
that fish hits that ledge.
1371
01:05:54,251 --> 01:05:56,253
We're going to lose that fish.
1372
01:05:56,386 --> 01:05:58,255
"Let's go, get a buoy going."
1373
01:05:58,388 --> 01:06:01,358
We got the big buoy for the
anchor. "Let go of the anchor."
1374
01:06:01,491 --> 01:06:04,494
That was it. We dumped
the anchor out with the buoy.
1375
01:06:04,628 --> 01:06:06,430
And we start chasing that fish.
1376
01:06:06,563 --> 01:06:08,632
"Let's do it. Let's chase him.
Let's chase him."
1377
01:06:08,765 --> 01:06:11,035
We thought we were going to
fight that fish for a few hours.
1378
01:06:11,168 --> 01:06:12,836
I mean, come on.
We never think, you know,
1379
01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:14,471
"Hey, it's going to happen."
What's going on here?
1380
01:06:14,604 --> 01:06:16,306
I look back,
and I keep seeing that buoy
1381
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,243
just like going further
and further away from me.
1382
01:06:19,376 --> 01:06:21,311
I'm like, "Uh oh."
I'm like, "You know what?"
1383
01:06:21,445 --> 01:06:23,513
And Rene's, like,
fighting that fish.
1384
01:06:27,651 --> 01:06:30,454
And I'm like, Holy shit.
This is a big boy here.
1385
01:06:30,587 --> 01:06:35,792
And Rene's like, "Luis,
big tiger, big tiger Luis!"
1386
01:06:35,925 --> 01:06:38,362
I'm like, "You got it buddy.
We're going to catch this fish."
1387
01:06:38,495 --> 01:06:41,131
"Luis! This is
a world record, Luis!
1388
01:06:41,265 --> 01:06:43,633
"Oh, my God, Luis, this is the
fish we want, Luis!"
1389
01:06:43,767 --> 01:06:46,002
I'm like, holy shit.
This is not a good one here.
1390
01:06:46,136 --> 01:06:48,138
We're in my 20 foot boat,
you know, whatever.
1391
01:06:48,272 --> 01:06:50,040
Let's do it.
1392
01:06:50,174 --> 01:06:52,542
Rene, you know what? I look
at my fuel gauge, I open my key.
1393
01:06:52,676 --> 01:06:54,010
Look at my fuel gauge.
I got like,
1394
01:06:54,144 --> 01:06:55,845
I had like almost
like three quarter tank.
1395
01:06:55,979 --> 01:06:57,781
We hooked that fish at
4 o'clock in the afternoon.
1396
01:06:57,914 --> 01:07:00,317
An hour went by,
two hours went by,
1397
01:07:00,450 --> 01:07:02,519
and that fish was not coming up.
1398
01:07:02,652 --> 01:07:05,255
That fish was just going down
and down and down
1399
01:07:05,389 --> 01:07:08,725
and now we already
in 1500 feet of water,
1400
01:07:08,858 --> 01:07:11,861
2000 feet of water now,
2000 feet of water at least.
1401
01:07:11,995 --> 01:07:13,430
3000 feet of water.
1402
01:07:13,563 --> 01:07:15,332
And this fish is going down
and stopping
1403
01:07:15,465 --> 01:07:17,067
and sounding down in 3000 feet,
1404
01:07:17,201 --> 01:07:18,668
like a submarine.
1405
01:07:20,604 --> 01:07:22,139
And now we start thinking,
wait a minute,
1406
01:07:22,272 --> 01:07:23,807
what kind of fish we got here?
1407
01:07:28,845 --> 01:07:30,914
This is night. Now this is
10 o'clock, whatever,
1408
01:07:31,047 --> 01:07:32,582
11 o'clock at night already.
1409
01:07:32,716 --> 01:07:34,384
You know, fighting this fish
1410
01:07:34,518 --> 01:07:36,353
and now I see Bimini already
disappear. No more light.
1411
01:07:36,486 --> 01:07:38,888
I see little lights out there.
Uh oh. The only land that I see,
1412
01:07:39,022 --> 01:07:41,191
little, little tiny light,
you know.
1413
01:07:41,325 --> 01:07:43,460
In those years, we don't use
GPS really,
1414
01:07:43,593 --> 01:07:45,395
its like my compass,
my coordinates.
1415
01:07:45,529 --> 01:07:47,564
So, you know, that was that was
my concern too, you know,
1416
01:07:47,697 --> 01:07:49,366
losing land already.
1417
01:07:49,499 --> 01:07:51,268
"No, forget about it."
I was like, "We'll get it."
1418
01:07:51,401 --> 01:07:53,002
Around 3 o'clock in the morning,
1419
01:07:53,137 --> 01:07:54,271
we start bringing this fish
in already.
1420
01:07:54,404 --> 01:07:56,039
He start coming up on us.
1421
01:07:56,173 --> 01:07:59,376
"Oh, Luis, he's coming up!
I'm getting line now."
1422
01:07:59,509 --> 01:08:01,911
And I start putting the
light on him like that, right.
1423
01:08:02,045 --> 01:08:03,813
And I see this
thing coming up on me.
1424
01:08:05,615 --> 01:08:07,984
You see the line come up,
I knew it's coming up out there.
1425
01:08:08,118 --> 01:08:10,254
I saw like a dark,
like a submarine
1426
01:08:10,387 --> 01:08:12,055
coming out of the water.
1427
01:08:12,189 --> 01:08:14,224
Voof! Like that.
When I saw that thing,
1428
01:08:14,358 --> 01:08:16,593
when I saw that dorsal
on top of the water,
1429
01:08:16,726 --> 01:08:18,262
I looked at Rene and I said,
1430
01:08:18,395 --> 01:08:20,029
"Buddy, I'm cutting
the line off right now.
1431
01:08:20,164 --> 01:08:21,898
"Forget about this shark.
We need a bigger boat.
1432
01:08:22,031 --> 01:08:23,433
"This is a shark. This the--"
1433
01:08:23,567 --> 01:08:24,934
"What the hell you
think it is, Rene?"
1434
01:08:25,068 --> 01:08:26,870
"Luis, this is it! This is him!
1435
01:08:27,003 --> 01:08:29,105
"This is a great white, Luis!
Look at the size of that!"
1436
01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:30,740
And then when he told me
great white,
1437
01:08:30,874 --> 01:08:32,041
then he went down on us again
1438
01:08:32,176 --> 01:08:33,977
because we got him right there.
1439
01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:37,113
Then he went down on us and then
I saw his white belly come up.
1440
01:08:37,247 --> 01:08:38,648
And then I
looked at Rene and said,-
1441
01:08:38,782 --> 01:08:40,250
"Oh, my God, Rene,
this is the beast."
1442
01:08:40,384 --> 01:08:42,018
Then he went down again on us,
1443
01:08:42,152 --> 01:08:44,621
sounding again,
another 1,500 feet.
1444
01:08:44,754 --> 01:08:45,855
Stopped again.
1445
01:08:45,989 --> 01:08:47,657
I'm like, "Holy shit." Resting.
1446
01:08:47,791 --> 01:08:49,993
And Rene resting,
like, "Holy shit."
1447
01:08:50,126 --> 01:08:51,861
I'm like,
"Rene you know what, buddy?
1448
01:08:51,995 --> 01:08:53,830
"I'm done.
3 o'clock in the morning.
1449
01:08:53,963 --> 01:08:55,832
"I'm tired, you guys fight
the fish. Don't worry about it.
1450
01:08:55,965 --> 01:08:57,467
"Let me know if
you got him again."
1451
01:08:57,601 --> 01:08:59,436
I went to, you know, to rest.
I was tired.
1452
01:08:59,569 --> 01:09:01,605
Already fighting this fish, this
fish was not giving up on us.
1453
01:09:01,738 --> 01:09:03,973
"Okay buddy, I got it. I'm
all right buddy. I'll be here."
1454
01:09:04,107 --> 01:09:06,910
Like 5 o'clock in the morning,
he wake me up, you know.
1455
01:09:07,043 --> 01:09:09,346
"Hey Luis get up, I got
a little water in the boat.
1456
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,449
A little water in the boat...
"What?"
1457
01:09:12,582 --> 01:09:14,117
Right away.
"Water! What? Water?
1458
01:09:14,251 --> 01:09:16,486
"What do you
mean water in my boat?
1459
01:09:16,620 --> 01:09:18,822
When I opened up the hatch the
water was already in the boat,
1460
01:09:18,955 --> 01:09:20,290
already in the
bilge inside the hull.
1461
01:09:20,424 --> 01:09:21,958
I had a lot of water
in that bilge.
1462
01:09:22,091 --> 01:09:23,427
Backing up all night
to that boat.
1463
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,028
You know, my bilge pump,
1464
01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:26,763
my automatic switch
was not going right.
1465
01:09:26,896 --> 01:09:28,765
That's when I told Rene,
we're going to have to cut
1466
01:09:28,898 --> 01:09:30,767
this shark off or we're going
to be in trouble here.
1467
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:33,270
"Luis, let me see if I can bring
this thing in one more time."
1468
01:09:33,403 --> 01:09:35,605
That's when the shark took a
turn on us and it just went--
1469
01:09:35,739 --> 01:09:37,574
and Rene locked the reel
on us, and the shark
1470
01:09:37,707 --> 01:09:39,909
with that little weight on it.
I tried to get the boat going,
1471
01:09:40,043 --> 01:09:41,578
but it was too
late for us already.
1472
01:09:41,711 --> 01:09:43,580
It just-- The boat just
went voof! And capsized.
1473
01:09:43,713 --> 01:09:45,081
Next thing I know,
that boat's hitting me
1474
01:09:45,215 --> 01:09:46,750
on the top of my head.
1475
01:09:46,883 --> 01:09:48,885
You know, just capsized
that boat you know,
1476
01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:50,587
I was like, "Uh oh."
1477
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,822
I see Rene actually,
when we capsized the boat,
1478
01:09:52,956 --> 01:09:54,858
Rene was still holding the shark
on his reel.
1479
01:09:54,991 --> 01:09:57,060
He was still
fighting that shark.
1480
01:10:07,304 --> 01:10:09,306
39 year old Rene de Dios
1481
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,909
of Miami Beach says he caught
a 20 foot great white shark
1482
01:10:13,042 --> 01:10:15,412
that dragged down
their small boat.
1483
01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:18,081
Meanwhile,
the fish is taking me under now.
1484
01:10:18,848 --> 01:10:21,418
Rene's side of the story was
he was fighting the shark
1485
01:10:21,551 --> 01:10:23,720
something like all day
and all night
1486
01:10:23,853 --> 01:10:26,222
power winching it,
he was getting close
1487
01:10:26,356 --> 01:10:28,758
gaining on him but
that the boat was sinking.
1488
01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:33,229
And the own captain of the boat,
I guess like to cut Rene's line
1489
01:10:33,363 --> 01:10:35,231
you're like
signing your death papers.
1490
01:10:35,365 --> 01:10:37,066
You know, this guy
will probably stab you
1491
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,668
with a knife or something.
1492
01:10:38,802 --> 01:10:40,937
As they're sinking,
I think the captain
1493
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:44,040
with his own boat sinking
never touched the line.
1494
01:10:44,173 --> 01:10:47,210
And I remember Rene being
appreciative of that.
1495
01:10:47,344 --> 01:10:49,045
He's like,
"He never cut my line.
1496
01:10:49,178 --> 01:10:51,781
"You know, when we were
in the water, I got the line
1497
01:10:51,915 --> 01:10:53,249
"and I bit it with my teeth."
1498
01:10:54,418 --> 01:10:56,219
So, do you believe the story?
1499
01:10:56,353 --> 01:10:58,622
Yeah, of course I
believe everything that he said.
1500
01:10:58,755 --> 01:11:00,290
Everything Rene said, I believe.
1501
01:11:00,424 --> 01:11:01,991
Like, Rene was
powerful with what he said.
1502
01:11:02,125 --> 01:11:05,629
He-- sometimes,
he'd cheat, you know,
1503
01:11:05,762 --> 01:11:09,299
he'll cheat to win a tournament
because of his competitiveness.
1504
01:11:09,433 --> 01:11:13,236
But as far as a story, if he
said, it was probably the truth.
1505
01:11:15,372 --> 01:11:17,040
So without
any doubt in your mind,
1506
01:11:17,173 --> 01:11:18,875
you know that was
a great white shark.
1507
01:11:19,008 --> 01:11:20,877
Oh, for sure. For sure.
It was bigger than my boat.
1508
01:11:21,010 --> 01:11:22,546
That thing was bigger
than a 20 footer.
1509
01:11:22,679 --> 01:11:23,813
You know,
that thing was a beast.
1510
01:11:23,947 --> 01:11:25,782
It looked like a submarine.
1511
01:11:25,915 --> 01:11:27,951
I mean, I don't I don't think
nothing else grows that big.
1512
01:11:28,084 --> 01:11:30,620
I mean, a tiger shark
can grow 12 feet long, 13 feet.
1513
01:11:30,754 --> 01:11:33,323
But I don't think it
can grow like 20 feet long.
1514
01:11:33,457 --> 01:11:35,759
Me and Rene look at each other
like, Rene's like,
1515
01:11:35,892 --> 01:11:37,927
"You never know Luis, this thing
can be a 6,000 pound fish,
1516
01:11:38,061 --> 01:11:40,063
"7,000 pound you know,
great white."
1517
01:11:40,196 --> 01:11:42,131
The world record was in Cuba,
they caught him in Cuba.
1518
01:11:42,265 --> 01:11:43,933
In Cojimar.
1519
01:11:44,067 --> 01:11:45,935
You know, the biggest shark
caught was in Cojimar.
1520
01:11:46,069 --> 01:11:48,638
They got him on a harpoon, but
it was a 7,000 pound fish.
1521
01:11:50,507 --> 01:11:52,476
Around 2 o'clock in
the morning when he came up
1522
01:11:52,609 --> 01:11:54,711
and I saw that big shark come up
next to me,
1523
01:11:54,844 --> 01:11:57,180
this shark is bigger than my
boat that we hooking now.
1524
01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:59,182
"What are we going to do with
this shark Rene?
1525
01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:01,351
"We, we, we 15 miles
away from land.
1526
01:12:01,485 --> 01:12:04,388
"You know, and we hooking this
shark, what are we going to do?
1527
01:12:04,521 --> 01:12:06,790
"We going to tie him by
his tail and drag him back?
1528
01:12:06,923 --> 01:12:08,392
"It's going to be impossible.
1529
01:12:08,525 --> 01:12:10,460
"Why don't we just cut the shark
and let it go?
1530
01:12:10,594 --> 01:12:11,995
"You know just,
let's let him go."
1531
01:12:12,128 --> 01:12:13,830
And, "No way."
1532
01:12:13,963 --> 01:12:15,832
He will die with that
fishing rod in his hand there.
1533
01:12:15,965 --> 01:12:17,834
Rene said, "Luis this is
my dream and forget about it."
1534
01:12:17,967 --> 01:12:19,669
I looked at my friend,
you know what, he's right.
1535
01:12:19,803 --> 01:12:21,605
That's his dream. And
we'll let him catch his dream.
1536
01:12:21,738 --> 01:12:24,173
We're gonna do whatever it takes
that Rene catch this shark.
1537
01:12:24,307 --> 01:12:26,042
And that was it.
That's when we went for it.
1538
01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:28,712
Flip the boat,
whatever happened, we alive.
1539
01:12:31,681 --> 01:12:35,619
The feeling of
hooking a big shark is like
1540
01:12:36,453 --> 01:12:38,988
the adrenaline starts going.
You feel it.
1541
01:12:39,122 --> 01:12:41,491
You're like,
"Oh, I want to get him so bad."
1542
01:12:41,625 --> 01:12:44,528
And then when you lose him,
the highs become just as low.
1543
01:12:44,661 --> 01:12:46,029
You know what I mean?
1544
01:12:46,162 --> 01:12:48,498
You feel so bad
that he got away.
1545
01:12:53,069 --> 01:12:55,238
Back on dry land for
the first time in a week
1546
01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:57,941
the three men still hang on
to one of the fishing poles
1547
01:12:58,074 --> 01:13:00,444
that first sank them
and then saved them.
1548
01:13:00,577 --> 01:13:04,180
39 year old Rene de Dios of
Miami Beach says he caught
1549
01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:06,416
a 20 foot great white shark
1550
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:08,785
that dragged down
their small boat.
1551
01:13:08,918 --> 01:13:11,187
Another wave came over,
swamped the motor.
1552
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,956
By that time,
all I remember is the boat
1553
01:13:13,089 --> 01:13:15,659
turn to the right, rolling over.
1554
01:13:15,792 --> 01:13:17,594
I'm in the water next
to the cooler
1555
01:13:17,727 --> 01:13:20,497
and I'm just doing my best--
he's still fighting the fish.
1556
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:23,232
Meanwhile,
the fish is taking me under now.
1557
01:13:23,366 --> 01:13:25,101
The three were
nothing but a speck
1558
01:13:25,234 --> 01:13:26,603
in the trackless ocean.
1559
01:13:26,736 --> 01:13:28,705
Incredibly, miraculously,
1560
01:13:28,838 --> 01:13:30,507
the crew of the Oceanic
spotted them.
1561
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,209
So did some
passengers with video cameras.
1562
01:13:33,342 --> 01:13:35,278
They'd been waving something.
1563
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:37,714
And so we're making a
direct turn toward them.
1564
01:13:37,847 --> 01:13:40,617
Out of no where the
Big Red Boat comes up.
1565
01:13:40,750 --> 01:13:42,852
And he seemed like
he was going to go away.
1566
01:13:42,986 --> 01:13:44,788
And out of nowhere,
he makes his turn.
1567
01:13:44,921 --> 01:13:46,623
Hits the horn.
1568
01:13:46,756 --> 01:13:48,391
When he blew the horn.
All the crew.
1569
01:13:48,525 --> 01:13:50,259
We all were crying
because we knew we were saved.
1570
01:13:50,393 --> 01:13:52,061
A lifeboat rescued the three.
1571
01:13:52,195 --> 01:13:54,430
They were winched aboard.
1572
01:13:54,564 --> 01:13:57,000
And boy, do they
have a fish story to tell.
1573
01:13:57,133 --> 01:13:59,736
The longest fishing
battle ever in history.
1574
01:13:59,869 --> 01:14:02,171
We broke this weekend.
14 and a half foot
1575
01:14:02,305 --> 01:14:04,340
battle on a great white shark.
1576
01:14:04,474 --> 01:14:06,576
And even after
the boat capsized,
1577
01:14:06,710 --> 01:14:08,845
I was still battling the shark.
1578
01:14:08,978 --> 01:14:11,180
I cut it with my
teeth and I released him.
1579
01:14:26,062 --> 01:14:27,631
I've got so many stories
1580
01:14:27,764 --> 01:14:29,999
you guys will
tell me to shut up.
1581
01:14:34,037 --> 01:14:37,306
I'm going to tell you,
it is so beautiful out here.
1582
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:38,842
It's epic.
1583
01:14:47,717 --> 01:14:49,085
Look at this.
1584
01:14:49,653 --> 01:14:51,020
Look at that.
1585
01:14:51,521 --> 01:14:53,189
Up here, it's like beautiful.
1586
01:14:53,322 --> 01:14:54,457
My lord.
1587
01:14:58,161 --> 01:15:00,997
This sunset is
not finished by far.
1588
01:15:02,465 --> 01:15:04,333
Just because it went down.
1589
01:15:12,876 --> 01:15:15,044
What did I tell you?
1590
01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:18,715
The good part's
coming now Shannon, watch.
1591
01:15:28,124 --> 01:15:30,293
I grew up on South
Beach, south of Fifth.
1592
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,729
Never crossed Fifth street.
1593
01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:35,999
I bounced around section eight
1594
01:15:36,132 --> 01:15:39,068
small, hole in the wall,
roach infested apartments.
1595
01:15:40,003 --> 01:15:42,305
There was also a
spiritual side to it, like
1596
01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,074
small apartment,
but surfboards, fishing rods.
1597
01:15:45,208 --> 01:15:48,578
You know,
your neighbors are frying fish.
1598
01:15:48,712 --> 01:15:51,380
My old man, Seaweed,
grew up with these guys
1599
01:15:51,514 --> 01:15:53,583
with Rene, Hammer.
1600
01:15:55,418 --> 01:15:57,386
Seaweed was
a South Beach classic.
1601
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,388
A free spirit.
He was a diver.
1602
01:15:59,522 --> 01:16:02,358
He was one of the number
one spear fishermen on the pier.
1603
01:16:03,827 --> 01:16:05,929
He'd be the one who
went and speared Rene
1604
01:16:06,062 --> 01:16:07,864
three tarpons
or three barracudas
1605
01:16:07,997 --> 01:16:09,733
before a big tournament.
1606
01:16:09,866 --> 01:16:11,735
They gave him the name one time
because they found him
1607
01:16:11,868 --> 01:16:13,269
sleeping under the pier
1608
01:16:13,402 --> 01:16:14,938
and he was blended
in with the seaweed.
1609
01:16:15,071 --> 01:16:16,940
Like I said, part of the ship,
part of the crew.
1610
01:16:17,073 --> 01:16:18,975
Rene saw him and
called him, "Hey Seaweed!
1611
01:16:19,108 --> 01:16:21,544
"Look, you got seaweed all over
your hair," and that name stuck.
1612
01:16:24,047 --> 01:16:26,716
My dad was homeless.
He lived on the rocks.
1613
01:16:26,850 --> 01:16:29,052
He would bring me
to the areas on the rocks
1614
01:16:29,185 --> 01:16:30,519
because he was like,
1615
01:16:30,654 --> 01:16:31,921
"Look, this is where
I would sleep
1616
01:16:32,055 --> 01:16:33,522
"on the jetties,
on South Beach."
1617
01:16:33,657 --> 01:16:35,191
From Government Cut,
he used to pay
1618
01:16:35,324 --> 01:16:37,727
our groceries,
my diapers, our rent.
1619
01:16:37,861 --> 01:16:40,229
Everything from
poaching lobsters and snooks.
1620
01:16:41,998 --> 01:16:44,233
The story that my mom
told me was,
1621
01:16:44,367 --> 01:16:46,235
"I'm looking out the window
and I see
1622
01:16:46,369 --> 01:16:49,806
"this long, blond,
flowing curly hair
1623
01:16:49,939 --> 01:16:52,709
"and this man, tanned, with
this long sleeved sweater.
1624
01:16:53,142 --> 01:16:55,078
"And I fell in
love with your dad."
1625
01:16:56,312 --> 01:16:58,314
And Shannon grew
up in South Beach.
1626
01:16:58,447 --> 01:17:01,184
He started five, six, seven
years old, walking to the Pier.
1627
01:17:01,317 --> 01:17:04,520
And then, you know, the
influence of the South Beachers
1628
01:17:04,654 --> 01:17:08,357
in a diving world, in a fishing
world, and it rubbed off on him.
1629
01:17:08,491 --> 01:17:09,926
You know, Shannon's got that,
1630
01:17:10,059 --> 01:17:11,394
the Seaweed gene.
1631
01:17:12,428 --> 01:17:14,530
My dad was never
really a shark fisherman.
1632
01:17:14,664 --> 01:17:16,632
I liked to fish,
so I would tie fishing line
1633
01:17:16,766 --> 01:17:18,702
on a can, go to the pier and
drop my can
1634
01:17:18,835 --> 01:17:21,537
with a gold hook through a hole,
catch little grunts.
1635
01:17:21,671 --> 01:17:23,606
And it was like,
I was hooked from then.
1636
01:17:23,740 --> 01:17:25,809
As soon as I could walk,
I was trying to fish.
1637
01:17:29,545 --> 01:17:32,148
My dad was pushing me
towards surfing and diving.
1638
01:17:32,281 --> 01:17:34,350
My mom would
take me out here and...
1639
01:17:34,483 --> 01:17:36,352
and just catching little grunts
out on the pier,
1640
01:17:36,485 --> 01:17:38,287
just started spreading man.
1641
01:17:38,421 --> 01:17:40,523
From there, I went to hanging
out with Rene
1642
01:17:40,656 --> 01:17:42,625
and Rene started bringing me along
1643
01:17:42,759 --> 01:17:44,794
and before you knew it,
I was just,
1644
01:17:44,928 --> 01:17:47,463
like, hooked with a passion
towards shark fishing.
1645
01:17:49,899 --> 01:17:51,868
He was like a protege of Rene.
1646
01:17:52,001 --> 01:17:53,970
Rene would take him fishing
when he was a little kid.
1647
01:17:55,939 --> 01:17:57,907
Later on that
was like my teacher.
1648
01:17:58,041 --> 01:17:59,375
So I would go with him.
1649
01:17:59,508 --> 01:18:00,910
He'd pick me up out
of elementary
1650
01:18:01,044 --> 01:18:02,912
and I was going
to the Keys at eight,
1651
01:18:03,046 --> 01:18:05,381
nine years old,
camping out for four days.
1652
01:18:07,683 --> 01:18:10,019
So he had first hand as a child,
1653
01:18:10,153 --> 01:18:12,588
he had it like infused
into his being.
1654
01:18:12,722 --> 01:18:15,191
He saw all these things.
He was exposed to it.
1655
01:18:15,324 --> 01:18:18,361
So he had the training
to become the next generation.
1656
01:18:19,863 --> 01:18:22,098
First of all,
Rene had a great quality
1657
01:18:22,231 --> 01:18:24,033
of grabbing everybody
in the room's attention.
1658
01:18:24,167 --> 01:18:26,202
Like, he'd be telling a story,
and everybody on this pier
1659
01:18:26,335 --> 01:18:28,204
would be like, "Whoa,
what's that guy talking about?"
1660
01:18:28,337 --> 01:18:30,173
You know, his voice
would vibrate,
1661
01:18:30,306 --> 01:18:31,707
and he was, like,
real good at, like,
1662
01:18:31,841 --> 01:18:33,376
"Shannon! Come with me!
1663
01:18:33,509 --> 01:18:35,178
"We're going to get
the big hammer tonight.
1664
01:18:35,311 --> 01:18:37,313
So, like, you're hearing this,
you're a little kid.
1665
01:18:37,446 --> 01:18:39,415
You're like, "What? I want to go
get a big hammer.
1666
01:18:39,548 --> 01:18:41,217
"Let's do it," you know? So...
1667
01:18:42,351 --> 01:18:45,889
Just that guy,
man, his, his passion.
1668
01:18:46,022 --> 01:18:48,157
Just it rubbed off on you,
1669
01:18:48,291 --> 01:18:50,193
and that guy could tell you to
risk your life.
1670
01:18:50,326 --> 01:18:53,362
He'd have me risking
my life as a child
1671
01:18:53,496 --> 01:18:55,731
and it was just like, "Let's do
it, you know? Yeah, let's go."
1672
01:18:55,865 --> 01:18:58,034
And now you think today
and it's...
1673
01:18:58,167 --> 01:19:00,136
some of that stuff was crazy.
1674
01:19:04,107 --> 01:19:06,042
I remember
1675
01:19:06,175 --> 01:19:08,812
Rene on the boardwalk
would hook a big shark.
1676
01:19:09,112 --> 01:19:11,647
"Shannon hurry up,
here, get my wallet
1677
01:19:11,781 --> 01:19:14,450
"here's 75 cents
go call your dad.
1678
01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:16,786
"Go call Kevin. Hurry up.
1679
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,654
"Call Calvin, get him out here
to the boardwalk now;
1680
01:19:18,788 --> 01:19:20,656
"we're tangled on a buoy."
1681
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:23,059
And I remember in my head I'm
like, "Man, I'm ten years old.
1682
01:19:23,192 --> 01:19:25,728
I'm not fucking walking
through that park, man.
1683
01:19:25,862 --> 01:19:28,764
Because these people would
be sleeping in the pavilions.
1684
01:19:29,265 --> 01:19:32,368
You'd have like a gang of 25,
30 dudes
1685
01:19:32,501 --> 01:19:33,903
just hanging out, drinking,
1686
01:19:34,037 --> 01:19:35,771
wanting to mess with whatever
walks by.
1687
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:37,874
So I remember
getting the change,
1688
01:19:38,007 --> 01:19:39,708
walking to the only payphone,
1689
01:19:39,843 --> 01:19:42,145
which was at the end of the--
the curving road
1690
01:19:42,278 --> 01:19:44,580
in, in South Point Park
1691
01:19:44,713 --> 01:19:46,950
and the innocence
of when you're, like, ten,
1692
01:19:47,083 --> 01:19:48,717
of the dark, of a noise.
1693
01:19:48,852 --> 01:19:50,719
I remember walking,
like, hearing noises
1694
01:19:50,854 --> 01:19:53,722
and being scared, looking to
the left, looking to the right,
1695
01:19:54,423 --> 01:19:58,627
and just seeing everything man,
seeing, seeing,
1696
01:19:58,761 --> 01:20:02,431
stabbings. Seeing people
get their heads kicked in.
1697
01:20:03,232 --> 01:20:04,633
It was, it was toxic man.
1698
01:20:04,767 --> 01:20:07,336
It was, it was
pretty gnarly back then.
1699
01:20:32,295 --> 01:20:35,798
I was literally born in the
South Beach housing projects.
1700
01:20:35,932 --> 01:20:37,433
Yeah, it was pretty rough.
1701
01:20:37,566 --> 01:20:39,969
It was pretty rough in the 80's,
80's and 90's.
1702
01:20:40,103 --> 01:20:42,005
A lot of gangs, a lot of drugs.
1703
01:20:42,138 --> 01:20:46,709
Even though you read a magazine
and you see the TV,
1704
01:20:46,842 --> 01:20:49,712
"Oh South Beach, you know,
beautiful Miami Beach,"
1705
01:20:49,845 --> 01:20:53,549
you know, and it's, like,
not what you're reading.
1706
01:20:53,682 --> 01:20:55,451
There's some
wild stuff going on.
1707
01:20:55,584 --> 01:20:57,453
Fifth Street, lots of crack,
1708
01:20:57,586 --> 01:21:00,223
lots of prostitution on
Washington Ave.
1709
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:02,125
The Mariel layovers,
1710
01:21:02,258 --> 01:21:04,693
walking around the park,
talking to themselves.
1711
01:21:04,827 --> 01:21:07,830
Lots of stabbings,
lots of bottle fights.
1712
01:21:07,964 --> 01:21:11,800
Fishing at night, you'd have to
be with your head on a swivel.
1713
01:21:12,401 --> 01:21:13,502
It was a wild time.
1714
01:21:13,636 --> 01:21:14,770
Wild West.
1715
01:21:16,839 --> 01:21:18,942
South Florida's most wanted gang
at the time
1716
01:21:19,075 --> 01:21:21,377
is the South Beach Posse.
1717
01:21:22,145 --> 01:21:24,948
From 15th Street
down to the pier,
1718
01:21:25,081 --> 01:21:28,184
you have, you know, a hundred
of the worst gang members
1719
01:21:28,317 --> 01:21:30,686
in South Florida at the time.
1720
01:21:30,819 --> 01:21:33,722
My first encounters
was in our apartments,
1721
01:21:33,856 --> 01:21:35,491
on our apartments
on South Beach.
1722
01:21:35,624 --> 01:21:37,994
So, this block Third and
Meridian was just infested
1723
01:21:38,127 --> 01:21:41,897
with all of the gang members,
all of the South Beach Posse.
1724
01:21:42,031 --> 01:21:44,167
Young kids,
older kids, leaders.
1725
01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:47,003
Like clockwork,
every Saturday night.
1726
01:21:47,136 --> 01:21:48,771
So all these dudes
are all hanging out.
1727
01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:50,739
This is their block.
They live there.
1728
01:21:50,873 --> 01:21:53,376
So these dudes from Hialeah come
to the park, before you know it,
1729
01:21:53,509 --> 01:21:56,179
you just start
hearing bottles break.
1730
01:21:56,312 --> 01:21:57,880
Bottles breaking. Screaming.
1731
01:21:58,982 --> 01:22:01,617
I would have anxiety as a kid
just worrying about my dad
1732
01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:03,552
getting into it with these guys
1733
01:22:03,686 --> 01:22:05,721
and the whole time there,
I'm just like frantic like,
1734
01:22:05,854 --> 01:22:07,756
"Oh my God, they're going
to kill my dad,
1735
01:22:07,890 --> 01:22:09,558
"they're going to burn
our house.
1736
01:22:09,692 --> 01:22:11,494
"They're going to come
back and shoot our house.
1737
01:22:11,627 --> 01:22:14,597
My first encounter that little
was-- I was scared shitless.
1738
01:22:14,730 --> 01:22:16,799
In different ages it
meant different things to me,
1739
01:22:16,932 --> 01:22:19,235
when I'm seven, eight years old,
it's like big fear.
1740
01:22:20,703 --> 01:22:22,605
Gunfire shatters the quiet
1741
01:22:22,738 --> 01:22:24,840
of yet another
South Florida neighborhood.
1742
01:22:24,974 --> 01:22:28,411
Welcome to South Florida's
teenage war zone.
1743
01:22:28,544 --> 01:22:30,279
Not a place for tourists.
1744
01:22:30,413 --> 01:22:32,681
Here are kids
who came out of families
1745
01:22:32,815 --> 01:22:35,251
who went into
a substitute family
1746
01:22:35,384 --> 01:22:37,753
that is so strict and so harsh
1747
01:22:37,886 --> 01:22:39,788
and does not tolerate very much,
1748
01:22:39,922 --> 01:22:43,626
which tells you something; that
kids want a sense of direction.
1749
01:22:43,759 --> 01:22:45,328
They need nurturing.
1750
01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:47,163
They need to
belong to something.
1751
01:22:47,296 --> 01:22:49,999
I actually didn't fully
escape from that lifestyle.
1752
01:22:51,267 --> 01:22:55,671
My mom died when I was 14,
and then I did--
1753
01:22:55,804 --> 01:23:00,009
I fell into it because then my
best friends were coincidentally
1754
01:23:00,143 --> 01:23:02,011
some of the worst ones
for our age
1755
01:23:02,145 --> 01:23:04,480
that just really sucked me in
real quick.
1756
01:23:04,613 --> 01:23:08,151
And then three years later,
I'm 17 and my dad dies.
1757
01:23:09,018 --> 01:23:13,489
So for a good portion of
my life of my childhood,
1758
01:23:13,622 --> 01:23:15,558
I was I was entrenched
in all of it,
1759
01:23:15,691 --> 01:23:18,161
in some really,
really gnarly stuff.
1760
01:23:18,294 --> 01:23:21,964
Some stuff I'm--
I'm even ashamed
1761
01:23:22,098 --> 01:23:24,667
to talk about, some crazy--
some crazy things
1762
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,170
I've done and seen.
1763
01:23:28,104 --> 01:23:30,873
There was two things.
There was a bank robbery.
1764
01:23:31,006 --> 01:23:32,541
Two armed men in ski masks
1765
01:23:32,675 --> 01:23:34,177
robbed the Republic
National Bank.
1766
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:36,312
And then there was a
shooting on 71st Street.
1767
01:23:36,445 --> 01:23:39,315
Where they, they shot some kid.
I think they killed him.
1768
01:23:39,448 --> 01:23:41,850
And from there they were like
South Florida's most wanted.
1769
01:23:41,984 --> 01:23:43,386
Everywhere we went,
everywhere we went,
1770
01:23:43,519 --> 01:23:45,354
to play football, to go fishing.
1771
01:23:45,488 --> 01:23:47,623
There was people taking pictures
of everything and nobody knew.
1772
01:23:47,756 --> 01:23:49,625
It was like, what the fuck
are these people
1773
01:23:49,758 --> 01:23:51,627
taking pictures for? Pictures.
Pictures, pictures, pictures.
1774
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,162
They shot pictures forever.
1775
01:23:53,296 --> 01:23:54,330
You'd be jumping off the pier.
1776
01:23:54,463 --> 01:23:55,664
Pictures.
1777
01:23:56,632 --> 01:23:58,467
Like what the fuck?
We paparazzi?
1778
01:23:58,601 --> 01:24:00,503
You know,
these dudes are paparazzi?
1779
01:24:00,636 --> 01:24:02,905
And in one,
in one shot just threw a net.
1780
01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:04,907
And netted... Even
if you were just hanging out,
1781
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,475
you know luckily,
I was too young
1782
01:24:06,609 --> 01:24:07,810
when that happened.
1783
01:24:07,943 --> 01:24:09,412
When the indictment happened,
1784
01:24:09,545 --> 01:24:11,347
they got them
on a huge racketeering,
1785
01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:13,616
like what they do for the Mafia.
Front page articles.
1786
01:24:13,749 --> 01:24:15,884
86 gang members arrested.
1787
01:24:16,018 --> 01:24:18,554
South Beach Posse,
RICO Act, racketeering.
1788
01:24:18,687 --> 01:24:20,956
Penned up everybody,
they put a net around everybody.
1789
01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:23,726
They were taking
pictures for years.
1790
01:24:25,394 --> 01:24:27,596
I just saw there was just
shit at the end of this road.
1791
01:24:27,730 --> 01:24:30,065
It was going to end bad.
It was going to end bad.
1792
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:32,935
I was already doing
things out of my character.
1793
01:24:33,068 --> 01:24:35,704
I was already ashamed of things
I was doing to people.
1794
01:24:35,838 --> 01:24:37,573
You know, like I told you,
my mom raised me
1795
01:24:37,706 --> 01:24:39,308
with a lot of love.
1796
01:24:39,442 --> 01:24:41,710
So when I saw it all crumbling,
you know,
1797
01:24:42,678 --> 01:24:44,547
my best friend got deported,
1798
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,582
my other best
friend got murdered.
1799
01:24:46,715 --> 01:24:48,184
All my friends are in jail.
1800
01:24:48,317 --> 01:24:50,085
All my other friends
are smoking crack,
1801
01:24:50,219 --> 01:24:52,288
you know, 18 years old,
hooked on crack.
1802
01:24:52,421 --> 01:24:54,457
You know, I'm like, this is,
this is not...
1803
01:24:54,590 --> 01:24:57,426
This is going to end bad.
I need to get out of this shit.
1804
01:25:32,295 --> 01:25:34,597
If your mom and
your dad are your rock,
1805
01:25:34,730 --> 01:25:36,865
once they're dead,
it's basically either, okay,
1806
01:25:36,999 --> 01:25:40,169
let's just keep on nosediving
or how much do you love life.
1807
01:25:41,136 --> 01:25:42,905
If you don't have some luck
or you don't have
1808
01:25:43,038 --> 01:25:44,473
some good guidance, like,
1809
01:25:44,607 --> 01:25:46,242
there was all
that bad stuff going on
1810
01:25:46,375 --> 01:25:47,976
but you had,
you had the Hammers,
1811
01:25:48,110 --> 01:25:50,813
you had the Renes
who were taking you fishing,
1812
01:25:50,946 --> 01:25:52,415
keeping you away from that.
1813
01:25:52,548 --> 01:25:54,750
That's your,
your way out of that.
1814
01:25:58,086 --> 01:26:01,190
Yeah Shannon was a,
hung around very tight
1815
01:26:01,324 --> 01:26:03,526
with Rene,
at the very end of Rene's life.
1816
01:26:04,460 --> 01:26:05,961
You know he died really fast.
1817
01:26:06,094 --> 01:26:09,031
He died abrupt, abruptly.
He died suddenly.
1818
01:26:09,164 --> 01:26:10,433
It was unexpected.
1819
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,136
This would not
be Rene de Dios' day.
1820
01:26:14,270 --> 01:26:16,372
This head is
all that was left
1821
01:26:16,505 --> 01:26:19,242
of the 14 foot hammerhead that
would have won the tournament.
1822
01:26:19,675 --> 01:26:22,678
Rene hooked it,
but lost it to a bigger shark.
1823
01:26:23,946 --> 01:26:26,014
You know Rene was like I said,
Rene you know
1824
01:26:26,649 --> 01:26:28,351
he never took care of himself.
1825
01:26:28,484 --> 01:26:29,985
Be on that bridge all day
in that sun,
1826
01:26:30,118 --> 01:26:31,720
that thing will kill you,
that sun.
1827
01:26:31,854 --> 01:26:33,656
I used to tell him,
"Rene, what are you doing?"
1828
01:26:33,789 --> 01:26:35,824
Well, you know-- "No Luis,
I have to catch the big one."
1829
01:26:35,958 --> 01:26:37,760
"What do you mean?"
"I'm here catching
1830
01:26:37,893 --> 01:26:39,928
"the big one Luis. I'm looking
for..." You know, that was Rene.
1831
01:26:40,062 --> 01:26:41,564
He likes to be there.
He doesn't care.
1832
01:26:41,697 --> 01:26:43,031
The only thing he cares about,
that shark.
1833
01:26:43,165 --> 01:26:44,600
That was his lifestyle.
1834
01:26:44,733 --> 01:26:46,302
He just wanted to be
out there shark fishing.
1835
01:26:46,435 --> 01:26:47,903
He didn't care about his health.
1836
01:26:48,036 --> 01:26:50,005
He didn't care
about anything else.
1837
01:26:50,138 --> 01:26:51,540
There you go.
1838
01:26:51,674 --> 01:26:52,975
He's on, baby!
1839
01:26:53,108 --> 01:26:54,910
He hit the one on top.
1840
01:26:55,043 --> 01:26:57,313
I knew it,
he hit the bottle man.
1841
01:26:57,446 --> 01:26:59,415
But just seconds later...
1842
01:26:59,548 --> 01:27:02,017
The ledge man, the ledge,
I knew it.
1843
01:27:02,150 --> 01:27:05,488
Rene, who lives to
hunt the shark was crushed.
1844
01:27:05,621 --> 01:27:09,157
Try as he may, his face couldn't
hide the disappointment.
1845
01:27:10,225 --> 01:27:11,727
Him and Jimbo
went down to the Keys.
1846
01:27:11,860 --> 01:27:13,362
They went shark fishing.
1847
01:27:13,496 --> 01:27:16,599
Rene had a minor stroke,
Jimbo noticed it.
1848
01:27:16,732 --> 01:27:19,602
Jimbo, I think, stood
with him at the hospital.
1849
01:27:19,735 --> 01:27:21,103
He says he wanted
to go back fishing.
1850
01:27:21,236 --> 01:27:22,871
He didn't want to
be in the hospital.
1851
01:27:23,005 --> 01:27:24,940
So Jimbo went back to
the Keys with him fishing.
1852
01:27:25,073 --> 01:27:26,409
And he should have been,
you know,
1853
01:27:26,542 --> 01:27:27,743
he should have been
in a hospital,
1854
01:27:27,876 --> 01:27:29,445
but he wanted one more shark,
1855
01:27:29,578 --> 01:27:31,314
he wanted to catch one more shark,
1856
01:27:31,447 --> 01:27:34,249
told Hammer and Hammer,
took him to Seven Mile Bridge,
1857
01:27:34,383 --> 01:27:36,218
caught him his last shark
before he died.
1858
01:27:36,352 --> 01:27:37,886
I think he died
shortly after that.
1859
01:27:39,355 --> 01:27:41,290
Rene was very competitive.
1860
01:27:41,424 --> 01:27:43,091
He was always number one.
1861
01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:45,928
He died being number one.
1862
01:27:47,730 --> 01:27:50,265
Believe it or not,
he was one of my young kids
1863
01:27:50,399 --> 01:27:52,801
that I brought up, that became
1864
01:27:53,536 --> 01:27:56,405
one of the best shark
fishermen in the United States.
1865
01:27:57,673 --> 01:28:01,910
He proved it every day,
but he died proving it.
1866
01:28:25,233 --> 01:28:27,202
Can you tell me
where that nickname comes from?
1867
01:28:27,336 --> 01:28:30,105
From Hammer. You know which one
I'm talking about?
1868
01:28:30,238 --> 01:28:31,340
-Jimbo?
-Not that.
1869
01:28:31,474 --> 01:28:32,975
The old man.
1870
01:28:33,108 --> 01:28:35,043
The old man.
The old man. Yeah, I do.
1871
01:28:35,177 --> 01:28:36,945
I know exactly
where it came from.
1872
01:28:38,747 --> 01:28:41,850
The old man.
Because this is how it goes.
1873
01:28:41,984 --> 01:28:46,288
Rene was the ultimate contender,
the number one.
1874
01:28:46,422 --> 01:28:48,357
"I'm going to let
you know I'm the best.
1875
01:28:48,491 --> 01:28:51,159
"Everybody's attention.
In the newspapers.
1876
01:28:51,293 --> 01:28:52,761
"Everywhere, everywhere.
1877
01:28:52,895 --> 01:28:54,797
"I'm number one."
1878
01:28:55,631 --> 01:28:58,434
Even though Rene,
competitively speaking,
1879
01:28:58,567 --> 01:29:01,336
like for tournaments,
for world records,
1880
01:29:01,470 --> 01:29:04,973
what have you, if you would put
those two against each other,
1881
01:29:05,107 --> 01:29:06,975
Rene's probably
going to win, you know,
1882
01:29:07,109 --> 01:29:09,678
nine out of ten tournaments,
nine out of ten competitions.
1883
01:29:09,812 --> 01:29:11,714
Rene's going to
figure out a way to beat him.
1884
01:29:13,582 --> 01:29:15,684
So many people only
know Rene as the best.
1885
01:29:15,818 --> 01:29:19,855
However, on the flip side, Rene
had such a respect for Hammer.
1886
01:29:19,988 --> 01:29:22,357
He had more respect for
Hammer than any other man.
1887
01:29:22,491 --> 01:29:24,727
That was his number one.
1888
01:29:24,860 --> 01:29:26,228
Just the respect.
1889
01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:27,863
It's almost like, you know,
1890
01:29:27,996 --> 01:29:29,765
you're the old man,
you're the originator,
1891
01:29:29,898 --> 01:29:32,367
you're the--
the old Kahuna, you know.
1892
01:29:32,501 --> 01:29:34,169
He knows when the
fish are going to bite.
1893
01:29:34,302 --> 01:29:35,738
He knows where the fish
are going.
1894
01:29:35,871 --> 01:29:37,372
He knows where they're going
to be next week.
1895
01:29:37,506 --> 01:29:39,442
Rene was good like that,
but Jimbo off land,
1896
01:29:40,409 --> 01:29:42,778
nobody could touch Jimbo.
1897
01:29:44,847 --> 01:29:46,582
With JD,
his success is just that
1898
01:29:46,715 --> 01:29:48,751
he didn't get stressed out
about anything.
1899
01:29:49,752 --> 01:29:51,454
He was just there for the moment
1900
01:29:51,587 --> 01:29:53,822
and he just did his thing
and it fell together.
1901
01:29:53,956 --> 01:29:56,158
And if it didn't, it didn't.
1902
01:29:58,393 --> 01:30:01,564
Even today, when you look
at JD Hammer, it's his life.
1903
01:30:02,197 --> 01:30:03,699
He doesn't care
about anything else
1904
01:30:03,832 --> 01:30:05,734
that's really
important to other people.
1905
01:30:05,868 --> 01:30:07,703
He just wants to fish.
1906
01:30:07,836 --> 01:30:10,773
And so that is the epitome
of the obsession of the fishing
1907
01:30:11,339 --> 01:30:13,542
and what the ocean
life does to a person.
1908
01:30:14,743 --> 01:30:16,545
The thing is, as you get older,
1909
01:30:16,679 --> 01:30:18,681
you drop out, you know, people
drop out of skateboarding,
1910
01:30:18,814 --> 01:30:20,916
people drop out of
surfing in their 20's, 30's.
1911
01:30:22,250 --> 01:30:25,588
But when you see surfers out
there in their 40's, 50's, 60's,
1912
01:30:25,721 --> 01:30:28,056
You have to admire that.
When you got J.D.
1913
01:30:28,190 --> 01:30:31,126
who's probably in his 60's
still shark fishing,
1914
01:30:31,259 --> 01:30:33,428
hardcore, dedicated,
1915
01:30:33,562 --> 01:30:36,965
very much applied for
the love of shark fishing.
1916
01:30:37,099 --> 01:30:39,602
Yeah you have to
admire that dedication.
1917
01:30:41,036 --> 01:30:42,971
You know, you have to.
1918
01:30:43,438 --> 01:30:45,641
There's no ego in JD.
1919
01:30:45,774 --> 01:30:48,276
JD's like full of humility, man.
1920
01:30:48,410 --> 01:30:51,113
JD Hammer is a soul fisherman
1921
01:30:51,246 --> 01:30:54,082
and I'm sure he is still today.
1922
01:31:01,289 --> 01:31:04,059
As far as legends go, it's just,
you know,
1923
01:31:04,192 --> 01:31:06,995
I think my legend is longevity.
1924
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:10,499
You got to say that,
here I am almost 70.
1925
01:31:10,633 --> 01:31:12,300
I'm still here.
1926
01:31:12,434 --> 01:31:16,739
And my next legend is teaching
young kids like Shannon,
1927
01:31:16,872 --> 01:31:20,743
like my sons,
like their friends, how to fish.
1928
01:31:20,876 --> 01:31:24,680
And keeping them out of trouble.
Doesn't always work, you know.
1929
01:31:24,813 --> 01:31:26,649
But that makes me happy.
1930
01:31:28,250 --> 01:31:30,786
And yeah,
I told you that before, right?
1931
01:31:30,919 --> 01:31:32,821
I don't care. It's not about me.
1932
01:31:36,324 --> 01:31:38,827
The one that bit Papi.
Remember this?
1933
01:31:39,261 --> 01:31:40,629
Remember the one that bit me
real quick
1934
01:31:40,763 --> 01:31:42,531
and I was bleeding everywhere.
1935
01:31:42,665 --> 01:31:44,399
So those sharks,
when they migrate,
1936
01:31:44,533 --> 01:31:47,670
are in the water by the
thousands, Dante.
1937
01:31:47,803 --> 01:31:50,205
I'm talking everywhere you look.
1938
01:31:50,338 --> 01:31:52,174
When, before we
kayak out the bait.
1939
01:31:52,307 --> 01:31:54,509
You see fins
swimming by the beach.
1940
01:31:55,978 --> 01:31:58,513
Oh, this scares me
just talking about it.
1941
01:32:02,084 --> 01:32:04,553
The wind's howling.
1942
01:32:05,621 --> 01:32:10,325
Waves are getting bigger,
crashing on the shore.
1943
01:32:11,694 --> 01:32:13,395
So, Papi gets in the kayak
1944
01:32:14,630 --> 01:32:15,798
and I start taking off.
1945
01:32:15,931 --> 01:32:17,465
I start kayaking out.
1946
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,167
I start getting far.
1947
01:32:19,301 --> 01:32:21,704
And I know this
is the last bait,
1948
01:32:21,837 --> 01:32:25,307
we want to go way
out for the big boy.
1949
01:32:26,942 --> 01:32:28,677
I keep going further.
I start looking back
1950
01:32:29,411 --> 01:32:30,579
and I'm looking for Hammer.
1951
01:32:30,713 --> 01:32:31,714
I don't see any more light.
1952
01:32:31,847 --> 01:32:33,749
I don't see Hammer.
1953
01:32:34,917 --> 01:32:37,586
But then it happened.
1954
01:32:59,474 --> 01:33:03,946
This man has steered
so many troublesome teens
1955
01:33:04,079 --> 01:33:07,082
into fishing
and changed their lives.
1956
01:33:07,215 --> 01:33:09,952
I'm talking it's in the
hundreds, beyond the hundreds.
1957
01:33:10,085 --> 01:33:12,788
- I was one of them.
- And Rene was one of them.
1958
01:33:12,921 --> 01:33:14,723
JD Hammer's the one
who actually put me
1959
01:33:14,857 --> 01:33:16,925
into the second level of fishing.
1960
01:33:17,059 --> 01:33:20,095
You know, I looked up to JD and
Rene and some of the older guys.
1961
01:33:20,228 --> 01:33:22,965
JD Hammer is
another father to me.
1962
01:33:25,033 --> 01:33:27,770
Here's a young kid,
he stays out of trouble
1963
01:33:27,903 --> 01:33:31,640
because he's always preparing
to be a shark fisherman.
1964
01:33:31,774 --> 01:33:35,243
You just ain't got time
to go out and be a bad person.
1965
01:33:35,377 --> 01:33:38,013
It teaches them in the best way
that I know
1966
01:33:38,146 --> 01:33:40,816
to stay out of trouble
is to fish.
1967
01:33:45,553 --> 01:33:47,022
It could steer a kid for me,
1968
01:33:47,155 --> 01:33:49,024
I wanted to do a bunch
of bad stuff
1969
01:33:49,157 --> 01:33:52,294
right after my dad died. I was
thinking nothing but negative.
1970
01:33:52,427 --> 01:33:54,763
And before you knew it,
I was-- I had no time.
1971
01:33:54,897 --> 01:33:56,865
I was like, man,
I want to go fishing with Jimbo,
1972
01:33:56,999 --> 01:33:58,500
you know, I want to go fishing.
1973
01:33:58,633 --> 01:34:00,335
Forget all this dumb shit.
1974
01:34:00,468 --> 01:34:02,304
Shannon was like one of my sons.
1975
01:34:03,939 --> 01:34:05,440
When his dad passed away.
1976
01:34:05,573 --> 01:34:07,075
It was every week Shannon.
1977
01:34:07,209 --> 01:34:09,444
I'd go to the beach,
pick him up, let's go.
1978
01:34:10,145 --> 01:34:14,149
And he was like
a brother to my kids.
1979
01:34:14,282 --> 01:34:17,953
I have three boys, and
Shannon became the fourth one.
1980
01:34:18,553 --> 01:34:19,755
That's all.
1981
01:34:21,623 --> 01:34:23,191
One of the first times
he took me fishing,
1982
01:34:23,325 --> 01:34:24,827
he had a brand new
West Palm Beach rod.
1983
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,628
Beautiful.
1984
01:34:26,762 --> 01:34:29,264
And he's like, "Shannon,
come on, come with me partner.
1985
01:34:29,397 --> 01:34:31,599
"I'll get you a cuda.
I promise. Come on."
1986
01:34:32,701 --> 01:34:36,171
And just holding on,
scraping this man's rod up
1987
01:34:36,304 --> 01:34:37,639
and he didn't even flinch.
1988
01:34:37,773 --> 01:34:40,342
Just like,
let me scrape up his rod.
1989
01:34:40,475 --> 01:34:41,877
Gaffed my cuda, brought it up
1990
01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:43,645
and he's like,
"You did it," you know.
1991
01:34:43,779 --> 01:34:46,048
And I remember just instantly,
1992
01:34:46,648 --> 01:34:48,183
instantly knowing
this guy's different
1993
01:34:48,316 --> 01:34:49,718
than, than other teachers.
1994
01:34:49,852 --> 01:34:51,854
This guy's
different than my own dad.
1995
01:34:51,987 --> 01:34:53,255
This was a lot of fun.
1996
01:34:56,324 --> 01:34:57,592
That type of influence,
1997
01:34:58,226 --> 01:35:00,328
letting a kid be free
and at all costs,
1998
01:35:00,462 --> 01:35:02,765
even the cost of your own rod.
1999
01:35:02,898 --> 01:35:04,867
Was really special to me.
2000
01:35:06,134 --> 01:35:08,904
I wish I could be
a lot more like him sometimes.
2001
01:35:09,037 --> 01:35:12,574
Everybody knows
this guy owned life
2002
01:35:12,707 --> 01:35:14,242
Does he have materialistics
to show for?
2003
01:35:14,376 --> 01:35:15,978
No, he doesn't have that.
2004
01:35:16,111 --> 01:35:18,413
But did you see as
many sunsets as he saw?
2005
01:35:18,546 --> 01:35:21,183
See the stars, see the galaxy?
Shooting stars.
2006
01:35:21,316 --> 01:35:23,852
Were you out on the fresh
breeze as many nights
2007
01:35:23,986 --> 01:35:26,088
as this guy was just free?
2008
01:35:27,555 --> 01:35:30,092
What were you doing when
he was enjoying all of this?
2009
01:35:30,225 --> 01:35:33,896
Catching fish, eating his
own catch every day of his life,
2010
01:35:34,029 --> 01:35:35,798
hooking monster sharks,
2011
01:35:35,931 --> 01:35:38,533
seeing everything you can
imagine out on the water.
2012
01:35:38,666 --> 01:35:42,304
I know in my heart,
when his time comes,
2013
01:35:42,437 --> 01:35:45,307
it's like, I don't think there's
going to be a lot of crying.
2014
01:35:46,074 --> 01:35:49,277
I admire him,
he's a role model to me.
2015
01:36:25,013 --> 01:36:27,582
Some of the kids
I'm very proud of,
2016
01:36:27,715 --> 01:36:30,552
that they become excellent,
shark fishermen.
2017
01:36:30,685 --> 01:36:32,821
I'm not going to say
that I taught them
2018
01:36:32,955 --> 01:36:35,390
because there's something
in here.
2019
01:36:35,523 --> 01:36:38,793
They are better
than the teachers
2020
01:36:38,927 --> 01:36:41,596
and it's all
because what's in here,
2021
01:36:41,729 --> 01:36:44,499
it has nothing to do
with what I taught them.
2022
01:36:49,838 --> 01:36:52,140
I think any kid
that's exposed to the water
2023
01:36:52,274 --> 01:36:54,376
carries that in his blood
for life.
2024
01:36:54,509 --> 01:36:57,045
It's something that sticks
with you, it doesn't leave you.
2025
01:36:57,179 --> 01:36:59,381
It's part of who we become
2026
01:36:59,514 --> 01:37:01,316
when you're exposed
to that young.
2027
01:37:04,419 --> 01:37:06,388
Yeah, I'm so thankful that
I moved towards the ocean.
2028
01:37:06,521 --> 01:37:08,957
It's the best thing I
think anyone can do for kids.
2029
01:37:09,624 --> 01:37:12,928
We felt we were all very
privileged to be near the ocean.
2030
01:37:13,061 --> 01:37:14,762
I mean, you can grow up
in a city
2031
01:37:14,897 --> 01:37:16,464
and you can grow up
in an environment
2032
01:37:16,598 --> 01:37:19,201
which is not very
conducive to behavior,
2033
01:37:20,168 --> 01:37:22,304
you know, which is not conducive
2034
01:37:22,437 --> 01:37:24,706
to good character building,
good personality building.
2035
01:37:25,273 --> 01:37:27,009
But when you're in,
near the ocean,
2036
01:37:27,142 --> 01:37:28,676
it's a very safe environment.
2037
01:37:30,645 --> 01:37:33,982
The ocean was a magnet
that drew many people
2038
01:37:35,450 --> 01:37:37,152
to South Beach.
2039
01:37:38,853 --> 01:37:41,823
My son, he dies
to go fishing with me.
2040
01:37:41,957 --> 01:37:44,993
He loves tagging along with me,
like taking out baits
2041
01:37:45,127 --> 01:37:46,594
the whole nine yards.
2042
01:37:48,496 --> 01:37:50,165
The times are changing,
2043
01:37:50,298 --> 01:37:52,834
a lot of us have followed suit
with conservation.
2044
01:37:54,236 --> 01:37:56,104
Every shark I catch,
2045
01:37:56,238 --> 01:37:58,840
I try my best to get the hooks
out fast and release it now.
2046
01:37:58,974 --> 01:38:00,542
It means so much
that I really want him
2047
01:38:00,675 --> 01:38:02,344
to be able to shark fish.
2048
01:38:02,477 --> 01:38:04,546
I want my son and be
able to kayak out shark baits.
2049
01:38:04,679 --> 01:38:07,415
And there be some sharks where
I caught sharks, on Miami Beach.
2050
01:38:11,386 --> 01:38:16,358
When you ask me about
fishing and the love of it,
2051
01:38:17,059 --> 01:38:20,595
fishing is just
not about killing fish.
2052
01:38:20,728 --> 01:38:25,700
You have a passion about it that
you want to share with others.
2053
01:38:25,833 --> 01:38:28,070
In the beginning,
2054
01:38:28,670 --> 01:38:30,838
perhaps somebody
might point a finger
2055
01:38:30,973 --> 01:38:33,741
and say, "Well you guys were
killing a bunch of sharks,
2056
01:38:33,875 --> 01:38:35,610
"and that shouldn't
have been done."
2057
01:38:35,743 --> 01:38:39,847
Perhaps we were not as
knowledgeable in the beginning
2058
01:38:39,982 --> 01:38:42,284
as we all were towards the end.
2059
01:38:42,784 --> 01:38:44,052
We've changed completely.
2060
01:38:44,186 --> 01:38:46,721
We turned around 100%.
2061
01:38:46,854 --> 01:38:49,958
Every one of my
sharks now are cut loose.
2062
01:38:50,558 --> 01:38:54,562
I was probably one of the
first guys years ago, '91, '92,
2063
01:38:55,530 --> 01:38:57,732
and we would cut
them off and let them go.
2064
01:38:57,865 --> 01:38:59,301
People change, man.
2065
01:38:59,434 --> 01:39:02,604
You mature, you--
you research, you learn.
2066
01:39:02,737 --> 01:39:06,441
And you could be different
than you were five years ago.
2067
01:39:06,574 --> 01:39:08,143
Ten years ago.
2068
01:39:14,449 --> 01:39:18,153
If I don't keep it alive, how
special it was to me and--
2069
01:39:18,686 --> 01:39:21,389
how beautiful it was the thing
that we had that I was taught
2070
01:39:21,523 --> 01:39:23,725
from by Rene, Hammer,
and all these guys,
2071
01:39:23,858 --> 01:39:25,927
then it's going to die out.
I'll never let it die.
2072
01:39:26,061 --> 01:39:28,930
My son will pass it on
to his kids and to me,
2073
01:39:29,064 --> 01:39:31,933
it's very dear in my heart.
The circle of friends we had,
2074
01:39:32,067 --> 01:39:33,601
I'll always keep
those memories alive
2075
01:39:33,735 --> 01:39:35,270
through photo
and through stories.
2076
01:39:35,403 --> 01:39:37,572
And my kid will pass it on too.
2077
01:40:18,813 --> 01:40:20,348
Look at this.
2078
01:40:20,482 --> 01:40:22,016
That's really--
2079
01:40:22,150 --> 01:40:24,052
more beautiful than I thought
when I was like,
2080
01:40:24,186 --> 01:40:26,354
"Oh, you guys are going to see
the sunset."
2081
01:40:26,488 --> 01:40:28,956
I was telling them,
it had to be here.
2082
01:40:29,091 --> 01:40:30,892
Like if they were
going to end it off,
2083
01:40:31,025 --> 01:40:33,228
if that was the end of the
film, it would be right here.
2084
01:40:33,361 --> 01:40:34,729
Definitely. Look how beautiful.
2085
01:40:34,862 --> 01:40:36,198
I mean, what
else could you ask for?
2086
01:40:36,331 --> 01:40:38,400
Remember the, um,
the-- the hammer
2087
01:40:38,533 --> 01:40:40,968
that you hooked that stripped
you out?
2088
01:40:41,103 --> 01:40:43,371
And then came back and
stripped you in and ran.
2089
01:40:43,505 --> 01:40:45,140
Ran inside?
Inside of the bridge.
2090
01:40:45,273 --> 01:40:46,708
How do you know, you were here?
2091
01:40:46,841 --> 01:40:48,676
Yeah, I was here,
but we were down from you.
2092
01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:50,545
Oh, you guys were
catching lemons right?
2093
01:40:50,678 --> 01:40:53,515
You were all defeated.
You were like, "Oh, I had him."
2094
01:40:53,648 --> 01:40:55,250
Can't catch them all partner.
2095
01:40:55,383 --> 01:40:58,620
You can't catch them all.
All we can do is try.
2096
01:40:59,921 --> 01:41:01,022
But look at that.
2097
01:41:01,156 --> 01:41:02,590
Oh, my Lord.
2098
01:41:04,359 --> 01:41:08,430
That is beautiful.
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