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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:47,798 --> 00:00:51,510 ♪ Please allow me to introduce myself ♪ 2 00:00:51,593 --> 00:00:55,806 ♪ I'm a man of wealth and taste ♪ 3 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:58,225 I heard about... 4 00:00:59,142 --> 00:01:01,645 this is just about Chuck Leavell 5 00:01:01,728 --> 00:01:03,397 when he's working with the Altman Brothers. 6 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,024 The thing about Chuck is that 7 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:10,195 he is always playing a melody. 8 00:01:10,279 --> 00:01:13,282 He's always playing a lyrical idea. 9 00:01:13,365 --> 00:01:16,910 And you really are hard-pressed to find a guy 10 00:01:16,994 --> 00:01:20,664 who can play with the honky-tonk, R&B, 11 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:23,000 blues bass that he has, 12 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:26,878 but also this incredibly melodic take on stuff. 13 00:01:26,962 --> 00:01:28,112 You just don't find it. 14 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:57,701 Morning, darling. 15 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:00,078 Good morning! 16 00:02:00,162 --> 00:02:01,997 We slept a little late last night, 17 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,580 must have been all that traveling we've been doing. 18 00:02:10,172 --> 00:02:11,256 All right. 19 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:15,969 - Want some breakfast? - Yes. 20 00:02:16,053 --> 00:02:17,846 - All right. - Breakfast is good. 21 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:23,560 My very secret ingredient. 22 00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:26,772 I don't like people to know about. It's bacon. 23 00:02:27,773 --> 00:02:31,193 How about a frittata this morning, Miss Rose? 24 00:02:31,276 --> 00:02:33,320 - That would be great! - All right. 25 00:02:36,114 --> 00:02:41,119 This kitchen used to end about right here. 26 00:02:41,244 --> 00:02:46,375 It was teeny tiny and it must have been about, oh, 15 years or so ago. 27 00:02:46,458 --> 00:02:50,253 We just took this whole section of the house off, 28 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:53,965 and we used our own wood, Charlane Plantation pine. 29 00:02:55,342 --> 00:02:59,763 When I had the tour of the offices of Capricorn Records, 30 00:03:00,764 --> 00:03:04,601 the doors open and there's two gorgeous women. 31 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,853 This black woman named Carolyn Brown. 32 00:03:06,937 --> 00:03:09,064 That was Phil's assistant. 33 00:03:09,147 --> 00:03:12,818 And my future wife to be, Rose Lane, 34 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:16,363 White at the time, who was working for Frank. 35 00:03:16,446 --> 00:03:19,157 I was the first person you saw when you walked in the front door. 36 00:03:19,241 --> 00:03:21,159 Phil and Frank were so wild, 37 00:03:21,243 --> 00:03:23,912 and you know, back then there were a lot of drugs involved. 38 00:03:23,995 --> 00:03:26,998 And they can remember, you know, from hour to hour 39 00:03:27,082 --> 00:03:29,042 what was really going on sometimes. 40 00:03:29,126 --> 00:03:30,585 Rose Lane had set up 41 00:03:30,669 --> 00:03:32,879 a... the first... one of the very first, 42 00:03:32,963 --> 00:03:36,258 um, simulcasts in the country. 43 00:03:36,341 --> 00:03:40,053 I had 11 radio stations that we got to hook up across the United States 44 00:03:40,137 --> 00:03:44,558 to do live in New Orleans with the Altman Brothers Band. 45 00:03:45,809 --> 00:03:48,770 Some of the folks that knew Rose Lane said, 46 00:03:48,854 --> 00:03:51,773 "Listen, you got to come down, you were responsible for setting this up. 47 00:03:51,857 --> 00:03:53,442 You got to come to the show." 48 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:57,654 So some of the roadies drove her down 49 00:03:57,738 --> 00:04:00,782 in her car, and she arrives there 50 00:04:00,866 --> 00:04:04,536 and we had a dinner that night for the band. 51 00:04:04,619 --> 00:04:08,123 I finally got up the courage to ask her out for a date, 52 00:04:08,206 --> 00:04:11,918 and bottom line is we've been together ever since. 53 00:04:15,046 --> 00:04:19,760 Rose Lane says I have a job security here because on a place like this, 54 00:04:19,843 --> 00:04:22,095 there's chores to be done, 55 00:04:22,179 --> 00:04:25,056 there's unexpected things that might happen. 56 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:27,434 And you get a weather event and then you all of a sudden 57 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:31,855 you got to be picking up trees off the ground and saw them up. 58 00:04:31,938 --> 00:04:33,899 Everybody likes Chuck. 59 00:04:33,982 --> 00:04:38,570 He's just a human being that you'd think doesn't exist anymore. 60 00:04:39,863 --> 00:04:43,366 He's the kind of guy that makes you feel bad about yourself. 61 00:04:44,576 --> 00:04:46,161 And you'd think it'd be the opposite, 62 00:04:46,244 --> 00:04:48,330 a guy like Chuck makes you feel great. 63 00:04:48,413 --> 00:04:51,082 He makes me feel bad because 64 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:55,128 a self-taught tree farmer, 65 00:04:55,212 --> 00:04:58,590 a beautiful musician, beautiful human being, 66 00:04:58,673 --> 00:05:03,178 when you look at the list of what he's got going on at any given moment, 67 00:05:03,261 --> 00:05:06,473 it makes you think, "Well, I laid on my ass till noon", 68 00:05:06,556 --> 00:05:09,100 and then I went in a do a couple of scenes and then went home 69 00:05:09,184 --> 00:05:11,603 and watched sports and went to bed. 70 00:05:34,793 --> 00:05:38,505 ♪ You'll get no answer from me ♪ 71 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:44,094 I see the male goose out there, 72 00:05:44,177 --> 00:05:46,388 so that means a female is nesting somewhere. 73 00:05:47,514 --> 00:05:50,517 There is no such thing as a day-to-day basis, 74 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,522 because Chuck and I are all over the place all the time. This is home base. 75 00:05:56,439 --> 00:06:02,612 And so I think that whenever we get here it's like, "Oh." 76 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:21,131 It'sthe Late Show with David Letterman! 77 00:06:22,507 --> 00:06:24,843 Sitting in with the band right over there, Chuck Leavell, 78 00:06:24,926 --> 00:06:27,126 ladies and gentlemen. Chuck, nice to see you. 79 00:06:29,264 --> 00:06:30,932 Well, he's just this, uh, 80 00:06:31,933 --> 00:06:35,270 rootsy guy from the South who came up... 81 00:06:36,313 --> 00:06:39,858 in the relatively early days of rock and roll, '60s, 82 00:06:40,775 --> 00:06:45,363 and has been at the top of his game all these years, 83 00:06:45,447 --> 00:06:51,119 and he can play, you know, session in Memphis, Tennessee 84 00:06:51,202 --> 00:06:56,458 or Muscle Shoals, Alabama, and then he can play in front of 40,000 people 85 00:06:56,541 --> 00:06:58,668 with the Rolling Stones. 86 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:02,005 And I have a feeling, to him it's all the same, it's all music. 87 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:07,302 One of my favorite musicians of all time is going to sit in 88 00:07:07,385 --> 00:07:08,887 and play with us tonight. 89 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:11,264 The guy's albums I listened to, uh, 90 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:13,975 listen to him and play on everything for many, many years. 91 00:07:14,059 --> 00:07:17,312 Uh, he was, in a lot of ways, the soundtrack of my youth. 92 00:07:17,395 --> 00:07:20,273 From everybody from The Altman Brothers to Rolling Stone, 93 00:07:20,357 --> 00:07:23,026 Mr. Chuck Leavell is here on keyboard. 94 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:28,073 Kick us off, Chuck. 95 00:07:49,678 --> 00:07:53,682 ♪ Last Sunday morning the sunshine felt like rain ♪ 96 00:07:55,058 --> 00:08:00,188 ♪ And the week before they all seemed the same ♪ 97 00:08:00,271 --> 00:08:05,193 ♪ With the help of God and true friends I've come to realize ♪ 98 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:10,073 ♪ I still have two strong legs and wings to make me fly ♪ 99 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:14,285 ♪ So I ain't wasting time no more ♪ 100 00:08:14,369 --> 00:08:20,667 ♪ 'Cause time goes by like hurricanes, and faster things ♪ 101 00:08:26,589 --> 00:08:31,803 My band who's pretty, pretty, you know, confident bunch 102 00:08:31,886 --> 00:08:36,766 and I did not exactly tell them to the first time he was going to sit in with us. 103 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:40,603 One of our mainly guitar players used to be in The Black Crowes, 104 00:08:40,687 --> 00:08:45,191 The Doors, The Stones and so it was funny to watch 105 00:08:45,275 --> 00:08:48,570 them fall all over their fucking sense 106 00:08:49,446 --> 00:08:51,281 at Chuck Leavell walking on the stage. 107 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:55,785 I mean, like the goddamn king had walked out. 108 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:58,038 ♪ ...much faster things ♪ 109 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:07,505 ♪ And you don't need no gypsy to tell you why ♪ 110 00:09:08,965 --> 00:09:12,927 ♪ You can't let one precious day to slip by ♪ 111 00:09:13,887 --> 00:09:16,473 ♪ Well, you look inside yourself ♪ 112 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:19,184 ♪ If you don't see what you want ♪ 113 00:09:19,267 --> 00:09:21,978 ♪ Maybe sometimes then you don't ♪ 114 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:26,191 ♪ But you leave your mind alone and just get high ♪ 115 00:09:45,376 --> 00:09:47,879 In that world, it was kind of a funny story 116 00:09:47,962 --> 00:09:51,549 to see these professional musicians, seasoned, 117 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:54,761 played the arenas, played for everybody 118 00:09:54,844 --> 00:09:58,765 just lay down their swords, you know, in front of Chuck. 119 00:10:04,187 --> 00:10:05,313 Thank you! 120 00:10:07,649 --> 00:10:09,984 I loved this, it was fun. It was fun. 121 00:10:22,997 --> 00:10:24,582 Oh, man, good old H&H. 122 00:10:24,666 --> 00:10:26,668 Let's go back. Say hey to Drew. 123 00:10:29,337 --> 00:10:32,757 - Hey, man! How you doing, bud? - Doing good. 124 00:10:32,841 --> 00:10:35,260 Beautiful morning to make biscuits at 5:30 in the morning. 125 00:10:35,343 --> 00:10:37,345 - Is that what you were doing? - That's what we've been doing today. 126 00:10:37,428 --> 00:10:39,139 We're rock and rolling here in the H&H. 127 00:10:39,222 --> 00:10:40,682 Well, I'm ready for one of them biscuits. 128 00:10:40,765 --> 00:10:42,350 Sounds good, we'll get you one real quick. 129 00:10:42,433 --> 00:10:43,768 We'll go sit down. 130 00:10:48,523 --> 00:10:51,317 Mama Louise, Louise Hudson used to 131 00:10:51,401 --> 00:10:54,612 feed us when we were hungry and didn't have no money. 132 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:58,241 And she'd say, "Well, honey, you just come on in, you can pay me when you can," 133 00:10:58,324 --> 00:11:00,659 or "if you ain't got no money, just don't worry about it. 134 00:11:00,743 --> 00:11:03,454 We're going to feed you, ain't nobody going to go hungry." 135 00:11:03,538 --> 00:11:05,832 We'd order, and there was five or six of us, 136 00:11:05,915 --> 00:11:09,627 and we'd order one plate of food 137 00:11:09,752 --> 00:11:13,256 and we'd split it up with each, you know, 138 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:17,260 we'd split up and Mama H. Caught us doing it and she, 139 00:11:17,343 --> 00:11:19,596 you know, I can't imitate her voice, but... 140 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,974 "My goodness, you boys. You can't be eating like this." 141 00:11:23,057 --> 00:11:25,351 And she'd bring us all... she said, 142 00:11:25,435 --> 00:11:26,978 "You guys hit the big time, 143 00:11:27,061 --> 00:11:28,771 you can pay me back later." 144 00:11:28,855 --> 00:11:31,149 And she'd bring us food. 145 00:11:31,232 --> 00:11:34,235 And I love it, you know, she used to 146 00:11:34,319 --> 00:11:37,780 charge you according to whether she likes you or not, you know? 147 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:42,076 Somebody was aggressive or she didn't like, it'd be, "Okay, ten dollars." 148 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,040 And if it was some of us, and "Well, $2.50." 149 00:11:47,123 --> 00:11:49,623 - Same... same dish, it didn't matter. - Same dish. 150 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:56,549 Hey, Mama, it's Chuck. 151 00:11:56,633 --> 00:11:58,717 - How you doing, darling? - I'm okay, baby. How are you? 152 00:11:58,801 --> 00:12:01,346 Oh, I'm doing great. So good to see you. 153 00:12:01,429 --> 00:12:02,889 - Good to see you. - Rose Lane. 154 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,016 - So pretty, as always. - Yeah. 155 00:12:08,102 --> 00:12:11,231 I'm so glad to catch you here. That's wonderful. Thank you. 156 00:12:11,314 --> 00:12:14,400 - You take care, man. - Okay. Great to see you all. 157 00:12:16,653 --> 00:12:18,703 When I first started playing the piano... 158 00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:22,951 my mom played, she was not a professional 159 00:12:23,034 --> 00:12:25,954 or a teacher or anything, but she played for family enjoyment. 160 00:12:26,037 --> 00:12:29,082 We had a little spinet piano in the house, 161 00:12:29,165 --> 00:12:31,918 and, you see, I was the baby of the family. 162 00:12:32,001 --> 00:12:35,129 My brother is 14 years my elder, 163 00:12:35,213 --> 00:12:38,466 and my sister is about five years older than me. 164 00:12:38,549 --> 00:12:41,511 So often times, it would be me and Mom in the house. 165 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:43,805 She would say things like, "Well", 166 00:12:43,888 --> 00:12:46,557 Chuck, what do you think it would sound like? 167 00:12:46,641 --> 00:12:49,394 If, uh, if there was a huge storm outside, 168 00:12:49,477 --> 00:12:51,589 you know, and I'd rumble down for the thunder 169 00:12:51,631 --> 00:12:53,690 and then do some lightning strikes up here. 170 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:57,277 "What do you think it would sound like if you hit a home run?" 171 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,905 She instilled that in me, and music has always been 172 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:04,242 more about emotions and colors and feelings 173 00:13:04,325 --> 00:13:06,452 than it is about notes and chords. 174 00:13:25,888 --> 00:13:30,935 ♪ Well, I've got to run to keep from hiding ♪ 175 00:13:31,978 --> 00:13:37,191 ♪ And I'm bound to keep on riding ♪ 176 00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:42,947 ♪ And I've got one more silver dollar ♪ 177 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:48,161 ♪ But I'm not gonna let them catch me, no ♪ 178 00:13:48,244 --> 00:13:53,333 ♪ Not gonna let them catch the midnight rider ♪ 179 00:14:02,884 --> 00:14:07,805 ♪ I don't own the clothes I'm wearing ♪ 180 00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:14,312 ♪ And the road goes on forever ♪ 181 00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:19,942 ♪ I've got one more silver dollar ♪ 182 00:14:21,444 --> 00:14:25,281 ♪ But I'm not gonna let them catch me, no ♪ 183 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:30,661 ♪ Not gonna let them catch the midnight rider ♪ 184 00:14:34,248 --> 00:14:35,833 Here we are at The Big House. 185 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:39,045 It's now a museum for the Altman Brothers Band. 186 00:14:39,128 --> 00:14:42,256 Now when I first came to making the guys who were living here, 187 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:44,717 uh, most of them anyway, 188 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:47,970 we used to come, visit and have jam sessions here. 189 00:14:48,054 --> 00:14:49,847 And through all the years, 190 00:14:49,972 --> 00:14:52,058 it has become a museum, 191 00:14:52,141 --> 00:14:54,977 there's a lot of memorabilia here from the Altman Brothers. 192 00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:56,396 So come on in, let's look. 193 00:14:57,605 --> 00:15:01,234 On our first trip to London, we played at Knebworth Park. 194 00:15:01,317 --> 00:15:03,236 - Yeah? - In outside of London. 195 00:15:03,319 --> 00:15:05,363 It would have been in '73, I think, right? 196 00:15:05,446 --> 00:15:06,989 - Mahavishnu Orchestra. - Yeah. 197 00:15:07,073 --> 00:15:09,158 No one had been outside of the United States. 198 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:10,660 Yeah, that was our first trip. 199 00:15:10,743 --> 00:15:13,079 Here's a great one from Winterland. 200 00:15:13,162 --> 00:15:17,458 I love those Bill Graham posters, they were always so cool. 201 00:15:17,542 --> 00:15:21,879 This is what we used to call "the get out of jail free concert." 202 00:15:21,963 --> 00:15:27,093 It was a free concert for the quality of life in Macon, Georgia. 203 00:15:27,176 --> 00:15:29,528 And we gave money to the jail, gave money to 204 00:15:29,570 --> 00:15:32,181 several different charities throughout the city. 205 00:15:32,265 --> 00:15:34,350 And if anybody got in trouble, we could just say, 206 00:15:34,434 --> 00:15:37,687 "Hey, don't forget we did this gig now." 207 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:42,900 I wanted to play with anybody that had anything to do with the Altman Brothers. 208 00:15:42,984 --> 00:15:44,992 I don't care who says they're the biggest 209 00:15:45,034 --> 00:15:47,134 Altman Brothers fan, they're wrong, I was. 210 00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:53,244 After Duane had had this tragic motorcycle accident in 1971, 211 00:15:53,327 --> 00:15:57,457 band went out as a five-piece with no replacement, very gutsy thing to do. 212 00:15:57,540 --> 00:15:59,423 Well, I think all of us were wondering what 213 00:15:59,465 --> 00:16:01,210 was going to happen after Duane passed. 214 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:04,589 You know, and it was just a revelation. 215 00:16:04,672 --> 00:16:08,718 It was just... they picked up where just went to a slightly different road 216 00:16:08,801 --> 00:16:10,887 and just as authentic and just as great. 217 00:16:11,929 --> 00:16:15,475 So they called in Chuck, and all the Altman Brothers 218 00:16:15,558 --> 00:16:17,727 were sitting in Phil's office, 219 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:21,189 and Chuck comes in, you know, sweet little boy and everything. 220 00:16:21,272 --> 00:16:25,610 And Carol and I are going, "Okay, he's fixing to get a big boost in life." 221 00:16:27,195 --> 00:16:30,531 Being asked to join the Altman Brothers was like 222 00:16:30,615 --> 00:16:36,162 catapulting 20 steps above where I was before, you know? 223 00:16:36,245 --> 00:16:40,041 They were already popular, they had already had gold and platinum records 224 00:16:40,124 --> 00:16:42,084 with At Fillmore East. 225 00:16:42,168 --> 00:16:46,255 Limousines, private planes, stadium shows, 226 00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:50,801 you know, in 1973 we were playing in RFK Stadium, JFK Stadium. 227 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:54,972 It was, you know, it was a big leap, a big leap. 228 00:16:55,097 --> 00:16:57,683 And I tried to keep my head screwed on straight. 229 00:16:57,767 --> 00:17:00,520 Chuck came in and, man, it was a, 230 00:17:00,603 --> 00:17:04,106 I mean, it just slipped the band up, you know, 231 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:07,568 it's just what we needed. 232 00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:11,864 With Brothers and Sisters came out and Chuck was featured prominently on it, 233 00:17:11,948 --> 00:17:13,491 all of a sudden, it was... 234 00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:17,578 a little more sophisticated, they had dealt with the, uh, 235 00:17:17,662 --> 00:17:23,376 the loss of Duane and Barry, and moved on in a way that was really amazing. 236 00:17:23,459 --> 00:17:25,670 He was such an obvious choice after you hear him. 237 00:17:25,753 --> 00:17:28,046 You would think because I've been... there always been 238 00:17:28,130 --> 00:17:31,217 known for having two guitars playing harmony, getting that stuff in. 239 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:33,511 You would think, "Well, why didn't you put another guitar player in?" 240 00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:37,598 But Chuck filled the bill totally and completely. He made up for anything 241 00:17:37,682 --> 00:17:40,182 it was missing by not having another guitar player. 242 00:17:42,645 --> 00:17:47,900 Unlike other bands, I would always write an instrumental for the album. 243 00:17:47,984 --> 00:17:50,695 And I didn't have one for Brothers and Sisters. 244 00:17:50,778 --> 00:17:54,407 I said, "Well, we don't need to do this on every record." 245 00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:56,492 And Walden then 246 00:17:56,576 --> 00:18:00,913 said, you know, you know, "You need to get to write an instrumental." 247 00:18:00,997 --> 00:18:06,502 Well, history of the song is Dickey was listening to Django Reinhardt, 248 00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:09,630 Gypsy guitar player from the '30s, 249 00:18:09,714 --> 00:18:15,052 uh, at his home, and he had a daughter at the time, a little toddler, Jessica, 250 00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:17,179 and he was watching her at play. 251 00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:20,057 And Django has these really bouncy rhythms, you know? 252 00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:23,185 So Dickey sort of, you know, 253 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:27,440 puts that in the wheels and starts playing this rhythm guitar part. 254 00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:30,651 He played me like what Duane would normally play, 255 00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:33,863 you know, on the roads piano. 256 00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:37,825 "Jessica" is I think Dickey Bette's masterpiece, 257 00:18:37,908 --> 00:18:42,663 but without Chuck's contribution to it, uh, 258 00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:46,667 it wouldn't have the impact that it had on all of us. 259 00:18:46,751 --> 00:18:50,671 You know, Chuck just outdid himself on that one. 260 00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:53,466 That's... that's one of his finest moments. 261 00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:56,677 I love this blue piano, way cool. 262 00:18:56,761 --> 00:18:58,346 And since we're here at The Big House, 263 00:18:58,429 --> 00:19:00,973 and the memories are flooding back, 264 00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:02,557 we'll do a little bit of this. 265 00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:21,150 Piano solo in "Jessica" is one of the greatest 266 00:19:21,192 --> 00:19:23,913 pieces of music I've ever heard in my life. 267 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:27,041 Because Chuck made... 268 00:19:27,124 --> 00:19:30,044 You have the song, "Jessica" 269 00:19:30,127 --> 00:19:33,047 and then when it gets Chuck's turn, 270 00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:36,926 he plays another song within the song. 271 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:40,137 This guy in school grabbed me and he said, 272 00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:42,723 and he was an older guy, and I don't know why he didn't know me, 273 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:47,061 but he grabbed me, he said, "Hey, man, you need... you listen to shitty music. 274 00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:51,065 I need to play you something," and he played me "Jessica." 275 00:19:51,148 --> 00:19:53,776 And it changed my life. 276 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:55,861 Brothers and Sisters is still to this day, 277 00:19:55,945 --> 00:19:59,490 the biggest selling record that the Altman Brothers have ever had. 278 00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:06,664 And '73-'74 we're touring, playing these stadiums is fantastic. 279 00:20:06,747 --> 00:20:10,292 Jimmy Carter is elected governor of Georgia. 280 00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:13,963 He does very well for the state, and really cool guy, you know? 281 00:20:14,046 --> 00:20:17,258 He's got a persona and he's charismatic. 282 00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:19,260 And then one day, we get... 283 00:20:19,343 --> 00:20:21,637 We're recording Dickey Bette's solo record, 284 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:23,472 Highway Call, first solo record, 285 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:26,976 and we get notified that Carter's going to come down. 286 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:29,562 And we expected, "Okay, he's going to come down, and 287 00:20:29,645 --> 00:20:34,191 shake hands and take a picture and he'll be here for 20 minutes, right?" 288 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:36,527 Well, he comes in, we're recording, 289 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:41,198 and he listens intently, we meet in and you know, 290 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:44,869 he starts asking really great questions about the state of the music business 291 00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:46,912 and stays for, like, two and a half hours. 292 00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:49,373 I was fascinated with it. Not only the first time 293 00:20:49,457 --> 00:20:51,459 I've ever been in a recording studio and... 294 00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:53,642 And the Altman Brothers were on the way up. 295 00:20:54,170 --> 00:20:56,672 He decides to run for president. 296 00:20:56,756 --> 00:20:59,300 And the Brothers had been very successful. 297 00:20:59,383 --> 00:21:01,510 And I think this was the first year 298 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:06,015 they had the thing where the government would match the funds 299 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:08,642 that were raised otherwise. 300 00:21:08,726 --> 00:21:12,229 So what we did is we gave, 301 00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:16,108 we played these shows for him, and the thing was 302 00:21:16,192 --> 00:21:21,030 we'd raise $500,000, and the government would have to match it. 303 00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:24,033 Lo and behold, he gets elected president, you know? 304 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,368 And, man, did he work for it? 305 00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:28,078 I don't know if people remember this, 306 00:21:28,162 --> 00:21:31,999 but he was getting two, three hours sleep a night, 307 00:21:32,082 --> 00:21:34,794 going from city to city campaigning, 308 00:21:34,877 --> 00:21:37,338 talking to people, listening to people. 309 00:21:37,421 --> 00:21:40,716 And that's one thing about Carter, he's a great listener. 310 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,093 He's been here at Charlane. 311 00:21:43,177 --> 00:21:45,177 We've hunted a couple of times together. 312 00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:51,644 I visited Charlane Plantation, and met Rose Lane, his wife, 313 00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:56,148 uh, after we had lunch together before we went quail hunting. 314 00:21:56,232 --> 00:22:00,277 And Chuck went in and played the piano and we all gather around and listen to him 315 00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:03,364 play a good song and so forth. 316 00:22:03,447 --> 00:22:05,699 So we've been friends for a long time. 317 00:22:07,618 --> 00:22:12,289 This meeting goes down during this turmoil with the Allmans, 318 00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:16,877 and the only people who showed up were me and Jay and Lamar. 319 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:21,257 And we kind of... we said, "We know what's happening. The band's breaking up." 320 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:25,553 Uh, we can either go our separate ways, or maybe we can build on what we started. 321 00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:28,472 So that's what we decided to do. And that was the birth of Sea Level. 322 00:22:28,556 --> 00:22:32,476 So, I think it was '76 or '77 the record came out. 323 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,812 It was just the name of the band, Sea Level. 324 00:22:34,895 --> 00:22:38,107 When we got the first Sea Level album, 325 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:43,279 we thought it must be because, "Okay, we get it, Sea Level, Chuck..." 326 00:22:44,238 --> 00:22:47,324 See, we didn't know how you said Chuck's name. 327 00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:51,871 We just knew he was on the inside cover of Brothers and Sisters. 328 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:54,498 My family is always pronounced my name "level." 329 00:22:55,457 --> 00:22:58,376 You know, my cousins are all Leavell, my sister is Judy Leavell. 330 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,129 My brother is Billy Leavell. 331 00:23:00,212 --> 00:23:02,172 When I began to get a little bit of notoriety 332 00:23:02,256 --> 00:23:05,968 and do interviews with radio stations and such, 333 00:23:06,051 --> 00:23:09,013 it was always, "Oh, we have Chuck Leavell here," Chuck Leavell, you know, 334 00:23:09,096 --> 00:23:12,266 and I finally... I actually preferred that pronunciation anyway. 335 00:23:12,349 --> 00:23:16,562 And then we found out it's "Leavell," and we were really happy about that, 336 00:23:16,645 --> 00:23:20,524 because "Chuck Level" doesn't sound as cool as "Chuck Leavell." 337 00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:23,319 The best opening gig was opening for Sea Level 338 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,821 at a place in Virginia Beach called the Rogues Gallery. 339 00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:28,157 When growing up here, playing at the Rogues Gallery 340 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,492 was sort of the Valhalla, it was the ideal. 341 00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:33,454 So we played the opening act thing and had to split right out 342 00:23:33,537 --> 00:23:35,706 and go play our gig, this is right down the road. 343 00:23:35,789 --> 00:23:37,666 Just maybe ten blocks down the road. 344 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:41,128 We're playing away and all of a sudden, I see Chuck Leavell 345 00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:43,923 walks in, he was a guy I'd admired for a while. 346 00:23:44,006 --> 00:23:46,926 And he comes up to me and says, 347 00:23:47,009 --> 00:23:48,385 "You motherfucker." 348 00:23:48,469 --> 00:23:50,054 So that was, I mean, 349 00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,139 what a beautiful moment for me. 350 00:23:52,222 --> 00:23:55,935 From that "motherfucker" moment, we became fast friends, 351 00:23:56,018 --> 00:23:58,228 and exchanged numbers. 352 00:23:58,312 --> 00:24:02,524 And I went to visit him, my future wife at the time, 353 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,903 Kathy Hornsby and I went on a trip down south. 354 00:24:07,071 --> 00:24:10,616 And we stopped in Dry Ridge, Georgia, 355 00:24:10,699 --> 00:24:15,037 spent the night with Chuck and Rose Lane, and just had a great time. 356 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,083 Sea Level t-shirt from our third record, 357 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:20,918 which is called On The Edge. 358 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:24,421 There's my old buddy, Lamar Williams. 359 00:24:24,505 --> 00:24:28,968 Here is a poster from a Sea Level show. 360 00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:33,389 It was a great club in Atlanta, called Moonshadow Saloon. 361 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:37,856 And you know, we had good success, I mean, 362 00:24:37,898 --> 00:24:40,854 we were selling 250-300 thousand records per. 363 00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:43,899 We did, I think five records over that many years. 364 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:48,445 And by the time 1980 came, 365 00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:50,572 the wheels were falling off of that one as well. 366 00:24:50,656 --> 00:24:53,909 And we all realize it was time to move on and do different things. 367 00:24:55,452 --> 00:24:57,413 Our producer George Drakoulias... 368 00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:02,251 came in one day near the end of the record and said, 369 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,044 "We have Chuck Leavell." 370 00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:05,963 Yeah. I was like, "What do you mean?" 371 00:25:06,046 --> 00:25:09,258 He's like, "Now we... he's coming up to play on the session." 372 00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:11,927 You know, and I was just like, "You have to be kidding." 373 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:14,865 You know, I mean, even back then it was 374 00:25:14,907 --> 00:25:18,100 like having a royal presence in the studio. 375 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:23,397 The energy was unmistakable. It was like, "Wow, man, these..." 376 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,776 These Cats are, they're there, you know, they're doing this from the heart. 377 00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:31,488 They want you on at least one, maybe two songs," I said, "Oh, okay." 378 00:25:31,613 --> 00:25:36,702 So this was right before I'm leaving for a Stones rehearsal, I think the next day. 379 00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:39,204 And took everything we were doing that, you know, 380 00:25:39,288 --> 00:25:42,416 that we felt what strong and the best, 381 00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:48,797 and it elevated it to another... to another thing. 382 00:25:48,881 --> 00:25:51,842 "And this is a hit, man. It's great. You know, can you put organ on it?" 383 00:25:51,925 --> 00:25:54,344 "Sure, sure. I'll put some organ on it." 384 00:25:54,428 --> 00:25:58,182 "You know what? We got another tune here. It might sound good if you do that." 385 00:25:58,265 --> 00:25:59,975 "Okay." "So do that..." 386 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:03,896 "And you put some organ on that too." "Okay, I'll do it." 387 00:26:03,979 --> 00:26:05,647 So this goes on, and the next thing I know, 388 00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:07,274 I'm on just about the whole record. 389 00:26:07,357 --> 00:26:09,860 I think I'm on seven or eight songs. 390 00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:13,030 I do also remember that it was a Saturday or Sunday, 391 00:26:13,113 --> 00:26:15,741 and the regular office staff of the studio at the time, 392 00:26:15,824 --> 00:26:18,535 no one was manning the desks in fact. 393 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:24,166 My father when he was on ABC-Paramount Records, he was a folk singer, and... 394 00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:30,672 his guitar for all those years was a 1953 Martin D-28. 395 00:26:31,673 --> 00:26:33,675 And I just always remember we were so excited, 396 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,053 we were in the control room, we were listening. 397 00:26:36,136 --> 00:26:38,972 And I just happened to open the door to go in the hallway 398 00:26:39,056 --> 00:26:41,266 and this guy is, like, walking out of the front 399 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:43,477 with that guitar and another guitar case. 400 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,062 They were stealing them. 401 00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:48,440 And Chuck is there the whole time, you know? 402 00:26:48,524 --> 00:26:50,859 But we instantly, like, you know, 403 00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:52,986 fight or flight, we jumped and chased the guy, 404 00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:56,323 he drops the guitars right outside the door where he is... 405 00:26:56,406 --> 00:26:58,951 But that happened that day too, the only... like, one of the only times 406 00:26:59,034 --> 00:27:02,913 anyone tried to steal from us was the day Chuck came to the studio. 407 00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:06,208 My mom and dad were there and it was like what a glamorous lame. 408 00:27:07,793 --> 00:27:11,463 Somewhere around the age of 15, the desire to 409 00:27:11,547 --> 00:27:13,257 be on a record came into play. 410 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:15,884 Muscle Shoals, of course was the big hot spot. 411 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:18,554 I mean, those, you know, this is where the pros were. 412 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:21,473 They were making records for Aretha Franklin, for Wilson Pickett. 413 00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:24,101 You know, Rolling Stones went there, Bob Dylan... 414 00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:29,439 Uh, you know, so many great artists started recording in Muscle Shoals. 415 00:27:30,732 --> 00:27:33,819 Like I hear Clarence Carter in the background. 416 00:27:35,445 --> 00:27:37,614 Man, I'm telling you, this door, 417 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:39,366 I used to come here, 418 00:27:39,449 --> 00:27:42,953 literally when I was 15 and 16 years old, 419 00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:44,896 with such a small building and there's just 420 00:27:44,938 --> 00:27:46,664 not a lot of room to hang out in there. 421 00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:49,835 So, you know, out there there'll be a recording session going on 422 00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:52,379 and my friend Marlon Green, uh, 423 00:27:52,462 --> 00:27:54,798 engineered quite a lot here and so Marlon would say, 424 00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:58,635 "We'll just come and hang out, you know, you can sit in the parking lot 425 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,598 or walk around or whatever and then when we take a break, 426 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,725 I'll see if I can get you in, you know." 427 00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:07,477 And so here's where I would be, right here... 428 00:28:07,561 --> 00:28:10,647 waiting for that door to open. 429 00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:13,775 And when it would, I was scared to death, 430 00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:18,155 but, you know, I wanted so badly to play on a record. 431 00:28:18,238 --> 00:28:21,116 So I'll go inside that door, 432 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,368 Marlon would say, "Hey, man, come on," and you know, 433 00:28:23,452 --> 00:28:27,581 and I'd see if I could sit at the piano or just meet somebody, 434 00:28:27,664 --> 00:28:33,128 or anything I could do to be heard and hopefully get a little action. 435 00:28:34,171 --> 00:28:35,923 Let's see if it's open. 436 00:28:36,006 --> 00:28:37,883 Oh! 437 00:28:38,884 --> 00:28:39,968 Oh, man. 438 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:45,599 At the time, this was like a spaceship. 439 00:28:45,682 --> 00:28:48,199 And now it's quite antiquated, but it's 440 00:28:48,241 --> 00:28:51,063 still very functional, no doubt about that. 441 00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:54,066 The first record I played on was in Muscle Shoals. 442 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:58,362 It wasn't at Muscle Shoals Sound, it was a different studio. 443 00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:02,157 And it was for a guy named Freddie North, R&B singer. 444 00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:06,620 And I played organ on this song called, "Don't Take Her She's All I've Got." 445 00:29:06,703 --> 00:29:08,497 And it became a hit, 446 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:10,958 you know, and I was 15 at the time. 447 00:29:11,041 --> 00:29:13,710 So that was cool. Number one, "I'm on a record!" 448 00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:16,964 That was fantastic. You know, I can hold it in my hands and look at it. 449 00:29:17,047 --> 00:29:20,092 And it didn't have my name on it, but I knew I was on it. 450 00:29:20,175 --> 00:29:22,302 And it was played on the radio. 451 00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:25,180 Fascinating, you know, fantastic. 452 00:29:25,264 --> 00:29:30,143 So that just kind of set me off to say, "That's... I need to be doing this." 453 00:29:30,227 --> 00:29:34,481 And what I realized was in Muscle Shoals, number one, I'm 15 years old. 454 00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:36,733 The older guys have the gigs, you know, 455 00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:39,319 there were some great players in Muscle Shoals. 456 00:29:39,403 --> 00:29:42,990 Barry Beckett with the Swampers at the time, 457 00:29:43,073 --> 00:29:45,075 Clayton Ivey, a great player. 458 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:50,080 Chuck to me is really what I call a really conscientious player. 459 00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:53,292 I mean, he's really... He's really meticulous 460 00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:55,002 about what he's playing, you know what I'm saying? 461 00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:57,879 A lot of people are just... I call them bangers. 462 00:29:57,963 --> 00:29:59,715 That's not Chuck. Chuck, I mean, 463 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:02,548 Chuck knows what he's going to play for and he plays it. 464 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:04,594 Now... 465 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:08,098 as I understand it this is the original piano 466 00:30:08,181 --> 00:30:11,810 that Barry Beckett played so often, it's a Yamaha, but... 467 00:30:12,853 --> 00:30:16,565 they used to have it up against this wall with the lid 468 00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:19,609 facing the wall and then they would put blankets all over here 469 00:30:19,693 --> 00:30:22,070 so that you could isolate the piano. 470 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:24,906 It's been a long time since I had my hands on this. 471 00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:27,451 Let's see. 472 00:30:31,872 --> 00:30:36,543 Here's one the Stones did right here in this room. 473 00:30:50,807 --> 00:30:53,685 ♪ Childhood living ♪ 474 00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:00,484 ♪ Well, it's easy to do ♪ 475 00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:08,033 ♪ Those things that you wanted ♪ 476 00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:15,832 ♪ You know I bought them for you ♪ 477 00:31:15,957 --> 00:31:20,545 The truth is I didn't really record that much here. 478 00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:22,255 I did a little bit, as a matter of fact, 479 00:31:22,339 --> 00:31:25,217 this was one of the records I did here. 480 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:27,427 There's a short story that goes along with this. 481 00:31:27,511 --> 00:31:30,597 And the only time I had any kind of encounter with, uh, 482 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,392 with Duane Altman was in this building. 483 00:31:33,475 --> 00:31:36,686 He had come into work on this record and he played slide, 484 00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:39,523 acoustic slide on "Please Be With Me," 485 00:31:39,606 --> 00:31:41,691 a Scott Boyer song. 486 00:31:41,775 --> 00:31:44,611 And he's had finished his session and he had his guitar, 487 00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:48,115 and he was walking out the studio, I guess to go 488 00:31:48,198 --> 00:31:51,118 catch a plane and I had just come in. 489 00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:53,787 And so it was literally 490 00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:56,248 passing in the hall like this, and it was like, 491 00:31:56,331 --> 00:31:59,376 "Hey, man, how you doing?" And that was the extent of it. 492 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:17,185 Chuck was selected as the national tree farmer of the year 493 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:20,355 and people just absolutely 494 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:22,732 were attracted to Chuck. 495 00:32:22,816 --> 00:32:25,861 Not because he was a Rolling Stone, 496 00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:30,115 or a rock star, but because you could tell 497 00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:32,659 he was a forest landowner 498 00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:35,620 who really cared about his forest, 499 00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:39,791 his neighbor's forest, a forest throughout the state of Georgia. 500 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:42,919 And when you've got several million tree farmers 501 00:32:43,044 --> 00:32:46,006 that are active in the American Tree Farm System, 502 00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:48,592 and to be selected 503 00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:52,387 one from all of those is quite an honor. 504 00:32:52,471 --> 00:32:54,931 It's very, very competitive. 505 00:32:55,015 --> 00:32:59,102 Uh, the first time Chuck was elected Georgia Tree Farmer of the Year, 506 00:33:00,061 --> 00:33:03,190 he didn't make it all the way to the to the second round. 507 00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:07,027 But you know, he kept at it, 508 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:09,070 the committee felt strongly 509 00:33:09,154 --> 00:33:12,449 that Chuck was a great candidate. 510 00:33:12,532 --> 00:33:18,079 And so when he and Rosie were selected as the national winners, 511 00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:20,749 it was a culmination of several years of work 512 00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:24,753 by the state committee to promote Chuck 513 00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:28,089 as a candidate for National Tree Farmer of the Year. 514 00:33:28,173 --> 00:33:31,968 I can't stand to see these trees that die on the stump, 515 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:34,387 whether lightning strikes, or, uh, 516 00:33:34,471 --> 00:33:37,933 they die naturally, or something happens to them. 517 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,770 I just can't stand to see them go to waste, you know, 518 00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:44,147 otherwise, they just sit there and die. 519 00:33:44,231 --> 00:33:47,943 Now, hey, fair enough the woodpecker's need to get one every now and then 520 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:50,820 so I can't get every single one that dies on me, 521 00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:53,907 but I try to get the majority of them. 522 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:58,745 And have them sawing up in my brother-in-law, Alton's mill. 523 00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:02,457 We've renovated our own home using our own lumber. 524 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:07,379 We're about to build a cabin on a new piece of property that we're buying. 525 00:34:07,462 --> 00:34:12,551 And so it's going to great use and there's a story behind it. 526 00:34:12,634 --> 00:34:15,595 You know, this is our wood. This is our lumber. 527 00:34:22,477 --> 00:34:27,482 ♪ Holy Moses I have been removed ♪ 528 00:34:29,442 --> 00:34:31,403 ♪ I have seen the specter ♪ 529 00:34:32,571 --> 00:34:35,574 ♪ He has been here too ♪ 530 00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:40,328 ♪ A distant cousin from down the line ♪ 531 00:34:40,412 --> 00:34:43,582 ♪ Brand of people who ain't my kind ♪ 532 00:34:46,042 --> 00:34:48,670 ♪ Holy Moses... ♪ 533 00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:53,717 We built upon, there was a little blue bitty pond there, 534 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,094 and that was something that we built out. 535 00:34:57,554 --> 00:34:59,389 Yeah, riding around it is beautiful 536 00:34:59,472 --> 00:35:02,350 and the water is so clear. 537 00:35:03,476 --> 00:35:05,937 Some p... pumped up out of the earth, 538 00:35:06,021 --> 00:35:09,816 we pump it up, and so it has a lot of chalk, 539 00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:13,987 because there's a lot of kaolin around here. 540 00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:17,407 So that's why it's aqua blue like that. 541 00:35:21,745 --> 00:35:26,333 And Mac, Mac Rebennack, Dr. John's real name, 542 00:35:26,416 --> 00:35:31,504 Mac had just recorded in the right place the LP. 543 00:35:31,588 --> 00:35:34,591 And the hit was of course right place, wrong time. 544 00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:39,471 And so he needed a band and he came to Macon and it was suggested, 545 00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:44,225 "Well, you guys, you know, why don't y'all go audition for Dr. John?" 546 00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:46,436 What Dr. John does it smart? He goes, 547 00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,105 "Yeah. I'm going to go be me, and put his character all over it." 548 00:35:49,189 --> 00:35:52,400 Then he can be sloppy as he wants, because he's got Chuck there 549 00:35:52,484 --> 00:35:54,319 to make it all solid and strong. 550 00:35:54,402 --> 00:35:57,322 The first night, oh, man, Mac was all over us going, 551 00:35:57,405 --> 00:36:00,492 "Man, you catch, y'all ain't got the second line 552 00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:02,786 thing down and y'all got a long ways to go." 553 00:36:02,869 --> 00:36:04,996 I don't know if this one works out or not, you know. 554 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,082 And I guess Mac wouldn't mind me telling the story. 555 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:12,003 So it was the time Mac was on the methadone program, 556 00:36:12,087 --> 00:36:15,340 and I think he was also probably copping on the streets. 557 00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:17,676 Now, I didn't know this, okay? 558 00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,387 I was totally unaware of the situation. 559 00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:23,139 All I knew was that I wanted a gig. 560 00:36:23,223 --> 00:36:27,143 After about the third day of rehearsal and audition, 561 00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:30,021 I went to his hotel room, I said, "I got to get another whisky," 562 00:36:30,105 --> 00:36:32,816 we're sitting there for a while and eventually he says, 563 00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:35,527 "Hey, man, I'll be... I'll be right back," 564 00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:37,320 And he goes to the bathroom. 565 00:36:37,404 --> 00:36:40,740 Well, you know, he's gone, like, forever. 566 00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:44,619 And I had no idea what he was doing, but that's what he was doing. 567 00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:47,163 And I look over to a table, 568 00:36:47,247 --> 00:36:51,918 and I see what looks like a book, you know, a notebook kind of thing, 569 00:36:52,001 --> 00:36:54,546 and then curiosity gets the best of me. 570 00:36:56,005 --> 00:37:00,552 You know, "He's not here." So, "Oh, there it is." I turned it over. 571 00:37:00,635 --> 00:37:03,722 Well, the first page, there's my name, 572 00:37:03,805 --> 00:37:05,932 the name of all the Cats in the band, 573 00:37:06,015 --> 00:37:09,102 and there's all these Voodoo symbols by our names. 574 00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:13,273 Oh, Lord, what is this? What have I got myself into? 575 00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:19,654 Chuck's a boogie guy, boogie-woogie player. 576 00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:22,407 He's a rock and roll player and to do that 577 00:37:22,490 --> 00:37:27,036 like the crazy boogie-woogie masters, Meade Lux Lewis, Albert Ammons, 578 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,499 uh, those... the guys from the '30s and '40s who did that. 579 00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:34,294 Uh, it's a serious split-brain thing. 580 00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:37,046 You set up a pad on the left hand. 581 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:10,914 I'm playing very freely rhythmically in this... in the right hand 582 00:38:10,997 --> 00:38:13,583 while this hopefully is very solid. 583 00:38:13,666 --> 00:38:17,587 What I just played for you is about six months of work. 584 00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:22,008 To try at least... of hard work trying to develop that. 585 00:38:36,606 --> 00:38:38,399 It's this... it's a restart. 586 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:42,654 See? I messed it up. 587 00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:45,740 And I got it right there. 588 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:51,579 It's just doing it and doing it and doing it until you get comfortable. 589 00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:55,834 You have to learn how to crawl before you can walk, before you can run. 590 00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:19,566 It's that, you know... 591 00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:22,527 Where he's playing a bassline like an octave, you know, 592 00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:25,238 a bassline with one hand. 593 00:39:26,823 --> 00:39:29,701 And all of this blues stuff with the other hand, 594 00:39:29,784 --> 00:39:34,956 it requires a pretty amazing amount of independence. 595 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:38,293 ♪ Come on along you can lose your lead ♪ 596 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:42,338 ♪ Down the road, down the road down the road apiece ♪ 597 00:39:42,463 --> 00:39:44,757 ♪ Come on along you can lose your lead ♪ 598 00:39:44,841 --> 00:39:48,887 ♪ Down the road, down the road down the road apiece ♪ 599 00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:51,639 ♪ Come on along you can lose your lead ♪ 600 00:39:51,723 --> 00:39:55,143 ♪ Down the road, down the road down the road apiece ♪ 601 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:03,276 Thank y'all! 602 00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:17,089 It was time to do "Run-Around" and our producers 603 00:40:17,131 --> 00:40:19,292 wanted to add some keyboard and so did we. 604 00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:23,004 And when they mention Chuck Leavell, we were very excited. 605 00:40:23,087 --> 00:40:25,089 It's like, "Wow! That guy? Yeah! 606 00:40:25,173 --> 00:40:28,509 I like listen to him growing up all my life. Let's get him." 607 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:32,138 And he showed up and it was exactly as we thought, you know, 608 00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,390 he just sailed right through it. 609 00:40:34,515 --> 00:40:36,559 When you say Chuck Leavell, 610 00:40:36,643 --> 00:40:40,647 it's like, I don't know, being in 'Nam and hearing the choppers coming. 611 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:44,817 It's... it's a reassuring feeling, it's you know that it's going to be good. 612 00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:47,654 We've never done the song as well since. 613 00:40:49,864 --> 00:40:54,535 Brendan O'Brien had become this mega producer for these grunge bands 614 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:58,122 out of Seattle and Portland and that area, 615 00:40:58,206 --> 00:41:01,417 and he had engineered The Black Crowes record 616 00:41:01,501 --> 00:41:03,252 and gone on to be this famous producer. 617 00:41:03,336 --> 00:41:07,757 And so he had come across the band, Train, 618 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,969 and he calls me up and he says, 619 00:41:11,052 --> 00:41:13,972 "Hey, man, are you in town?" I said, "What... where in town?" 620 00:41:14,055 --> 00:41:15,323 And he said, "You at home?" I said, 621 00:41:15,365 --> 00:41:16,975 "Yeah," and he said, "Well, I'm in Atlanta, 622 00:41:17,058 --> 00:41:20,186 and I've got this band trying that I'm producing 623 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:25,316 and they have a song that the record company believes is a big hit, 624 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,694 "and there's a significant piano part on it." 625 00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:30,279 And Brendan's a great musician, he said, 626 00:41:30,363 --> 00:41:33,032 "You know, I could do it, but I'd feel more comfortable 627 00:41:33,116 --> 00:41:35,224 if I had somebody that I can depend on like 628 00:41:35,266 --> 00:41:37,516 you," and I said, "Sure, yeah, I'll do that." 629 00:41:38,371 --> 00:41:41,749 You know, I mean, you know, really just watching Chuck in that room 630 00:41:41,833 --> 00:41:44,252 behind glass playing the piano 631 00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:46,879 and just kind of looking around like, 632 00:41:46,963 --> 00:41:51,592 "That was easy," you know, and he just played it one time. 633 00:41:51,676 --> 00:41:54,262 You know, we probably asked him to play it a couple more just for fun. 634 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:58,683 But he's like a guy who listens to it and it takes him one time. 635 00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:01,102 Well, look at what he did with "Drops of Jupiter," 636 00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:04,063 and which is a wonderful song, a wonderful record, 637 00:42:04,147 --> 00:42:06,399 but without that piano... 638 00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:08,359 It turned out really, really well. 639 00:42:08,443 --> 00:42:11,154 It's a lovely song, -Drops of Jupiter.- 640 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,787 A player like Chuck can make or break a recording. 641 00:42:19,871 --> 00:42:21,998 He could be the most important person in the room, 642 00:42:22,081 --> 00:42:24,834 but he makes everybody feel like they belong there with him. 643 00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:26,377 Chuck's that kind of guy. 644 00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:31,591 I think it shows what kind of person that he is 645 00:42:31,674 --> 00:42:33,801 in the first five minutes you meet him. 646 00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:38,264 I knew about his playing before I met him, 647 00:42:38,347 --> 00:42:41,184 and then in all these decades since he's just 648 00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:45,480 shown himself to be an exemplary human being as well as a musician. 649 00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:49,355 It doesn't surprise me that he would take 650 00:42:49,397 --> 00:42:52,278 the time to really nurture his relationships. 651 00:42:52,361 --> 00:42:56,866 And thank goodness, as he says, he got lucky and picked the right person, 652 00:42:56,949 --> 00:43:00,599 and she picked the right guy, but it takes a lot of work in this business. 653 00:43:09,545 --> 00:43:11,506 We did a little movie that nobody ever saw called 654 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,489 Jayne Mansfield's Car down in Georgia. 655 00:43:14,133 --> 00:43:16,928 And Chuck couldn't believe, he kept thanking me. 656 00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:19,013 "Oh, I can't believe you put me in a scene with Robert Duvall." 657 00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:22,600 He had a couple of lines with Duvall, you know, in a barber shop. 658 00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:27,355 Goddamn Tate Scott. The whole damn bunch is Yankees 659 00:43:27,438 --> 00:43:29,592 got nothing running through their veins but 660 00:43:29,634 --> 00:43:31,984 Cincinnati blood from Ohio. They're from Ohio. 661 00:43:32,068 --> 00:43:35,518 You ought to have to be from here to run for office, the way I see it. 662 00:43:37,365 --> 00:43:40,034 Well, they've been here some 40-odd years though, Jim. 663 00:43:40,118 --> 00:43:41,786 I don't give a shit! 664 00:43:41,869 --> 00:43:43,246 He doesn't freeze up. 665 00:43:43,329 --> 00:43:45,289 He doesn't show off. 666 00:43:45,373 --> 00:43:49,585 You know, he's a rare animal. I think he's a... 667 00:43:49,669 --> 00:43:53,923 He maybe... if there's a rock and roll unicorn, it's probably Chuck. 668 00:43:57,051 --> 00:43:59,428 '81, Rose Lane inherits... 669 00:44:00,429 --> 00:44:03,057 this thousand acres from her grandmother. 670 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:07,186 The phone's not really ringing for session work. 671 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:09,272 I'm a little despondent about that. 672 00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:13,025 But at the same time, I'm interested in this land thing, 673 00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:16,070 you know, and I'm started on this journey learning about it, 674 00:44:16,154 --> 00:44:17,780 and was really fascinated with it. 675 00:44:17,864 --> 00:44:20,324 And I come home one day, 676 00:44:20,408 --> 00:44:23,119 kind of venting to Rose Lane saying, 677 00:44:23,202 --> 00:44:27,081 "You know, I'm always going to play music, but phones not really ringing that much, 678 00:44:27,165 --> 00:44:31,544 um, this trio I'm with is okay, but it's not really going anywhere." 679 00:44:31,627 --> 00:44:34,630 Capricorn had pretty much folded by that time, 680 00:44:34,714 --> 00:44:37,758 so that went out the back door. 681 00:44:37,842 --> 00:44:41,637 And Bill Graham's office called 682 00:44:41,721 --> 00:44:45,766 and there's this guy, Mick Nubble, and he said, 683 00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:49,478 "Was Chuck there?" And I said, "No, he's not here for the moment, you know." 684 00:44:49,562 --> 00:44:54,942 Then he says, "Well, Bill wanted to have an audition 685 00:44:55,026 --> 00:44:57,862 for Chuck with the Rolling Stones." 686 00:44:57,945 --> 00:45:02,074 So Chuck comes in, he's, you know, kind of downtrodden a little bit, 687 00:45:02,158 --> 00:45:05,536 because he's not... life isn't going the way he wanted it to. 688 00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:09,290 He said, "I'm just going to not do my piano, I'm just going to have a farm. 689 00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:12,168 We're going to live out here on the farm, everything is going to be great." 690 00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:14,405 And I'm like going, "Not... you know, we're 691 00:45:14,447 --> 00:45:16,797 not really... it's not going to be like that." 692 00:45:16,881 --> 00:45:19,634 At the end of all this, she looks at me 693 00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:22,470 and she says, "Well, that's really interesting, Chuck, but guess what? 694 00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:24,680 The Rolling Stones called you today." 695 00:45:24,764 --> 00:45:27,558 And he told me that wouldn't funny, 696 00:45:27,642 --> 00:45:30,061 that was a joke I was playing on him 697 00:45:30,144 --> 00:45:32,188 just because he was depressed. 698 00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:35,399 And I said, "No, there's the phone number," 699 00:45:35,483 --> 00:45:39,153 um, you might want to call Bill Graham's office and see. 700 00:45:39,237 --> 00:45:41,447 So the next morning, he was on a plane. 701 00:45:42,615 --> 00:45:45,743 And The Allmans were like his favorite band, you know. 702 00:45:46,661 --> 00:45:50,456 And then he came back home and he... 703 00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:56,671 he was sat down in the chair and he just started crying, you know, he really, 704 00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:58,965 he said, "I didn't get the job." 705 00:45:59,048 --> 00:46:01,008 Steve calls me and he says, 706 00:46:01,092 --> 00:46:04,011 "Chuck, the guys love you, you know, you did great, 707 00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:06,264 but they're going to stay with Ian McLagan, 708 00:46:06,347 --> 00:46:08,516 McLagan had done the previous tour." 709 00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:13,187 And the summer of '82 tour, 710 00:46:13,271 --> 00:46:14,981 they hired Chuck to play. 711 00:46:15,064 --> 00:46:17,108 That was a life-changer, yeah, it really was. 712 00:46:17,191 --> 00:46:19,193 And I love Bill, you know, back in the day 713 00:46:19,277 --> 00:46:22,196 with the Altman Brothers Band, we had so many good times. 714 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,573 He was very helpful to me with Sea Level. 715 00:46:24,657 --> 00:46:26,742 We did a lot of concerts for Bill. 716 00:46:26,867 --> 00:46:30,830 And he was just this incredible personality, charismatic, 717 00:46:30,913 --> 00:46:33,666 loved music and a great businessman. 718 00:46:33,749 --> 00:46:37,545 You know, he kind of forged the way for the music business, 719 00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:40,214 especially live music business. 720 00:46:46,345 --> 00:46:49,682 All right, guys, I come bearing gifts. Here. 721 00:46:51,392 --> 00:46:52,893 - Yeah, thank you. - Yeah, man. 722 00:46:52,977 --> 00:46:54,520 Very, very much. 723 00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:57,732 Oh, yeah. Okay. You get a picture? Sure. Come on. 724 00:46:59,942 --> 00:47:02,200 Thanks a lot. See you guys. Tomorrow, right? 725 00:47:02,242 --> 00:47:02,592 Yeah! 726 00:47:06,157 --> 00:47:08,784 Let's go to, uh, let's try Trocadéro. 727 00:47:11,537 --> 00:47:16,334 The first time I came to Paris was 728 00:47:16,417 --> 00:47:18,544 in 1982 with the Stones. 729 00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:23,090 And we played the Stade De France, 730 00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:26,302 and Rose Lane couldn't be with me because she was giving birth! 731 00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:31,220 It's hard to be here when you're giving birth somewhere else. 732 00:47:32,558 --> 00:47:36,687 No, but it was '82 and then came back in '83 733 00:47:36,771 --> 00:47:41,275 to record the Undercover record. 734 00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:46,364 And we're here for, gosh, two and a half, three months or something. 735 00:47:46,447 --> 00:47:51,660 And then again in '85 recording the Dirty Work record. 736 00:47:51,744 --> 00:47:55,539 And then I think there was a gap until we toured again in 1990 737 00:47:55,623 --> 00:47:57,833 with the Steel Wheels Tour we came here. 738 00:47:57,917 --> 00:48:03,464 It's not like he wasn't already in bands bigger than at that time. 739 00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:06,258 It was just a lifetime statement. 740 00:48:06,342 --> 00:48:11,555 The Rolling Stones are actually created by a keyboard player, 741 00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:13,724 by a piano player called Ian Stewart. 742 00:48:15,017 --> 00:48:16,917 And he's the one that put us together. 743 00:48:18,646 --> 00:48:23,818 To join this bad, I mean, I had to, in 1960, 744 00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:27,279 you have to pass Stewart's recommendation, 745 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,951 and if Stewart didn't like you, you wouldn't be in the band. 746 00:48:32,034 --> 00:48:34,495 Ian Stewart used to be a man of his own. 747 00:48:34,578 --> 00:48:38,249 He was cut from his own cloth, and he very... 748 00:48:38,332 --> 00:48:42,086 He wouldn't really accept any outsiders in. 749 00:48:42,169 --> 00:48:45,047 You know, because he was the man who played piano his way. 750 00:48:46,465 --> 00:48:49,718 He did respect Chuck. Yeah. 751 00:48:49,802 --> 00:48:51,887 The main thing about Chuck and the Stones 752 00:48:51,971 --> 00:48:54,682 and how this is all happened is that 753 00:48:54,765 --> 00:48:59,186 Chuck's history of where he came from, where he started 754 00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:03,190 who he played with is quite amazing. 755 00:49:03,274 --> 00:49:08,362 It's like the sudden royalty of musicianship. 756 00:49:09,572 --> 00:49:12,658 Chuck Leavell sort of melted into the band. 757 00:49:12,741 --> 00:49:16,287 It wasn't so much a sort of joining or, you know, 758 00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:18,456 that obvious like, click, click, click. 759 00:49:18,539 --> 00:49:22,126 And suddenly there was Chuck. 760 00:49:22,209 --> 00:49:25,921 Guys like Keith Richards, um, 761 00:49:26,005 --> 00:49:30,301 and the Rolling Stones, all of them as a band 762 00:49:30,384 --> 00:49:34,805 show other artists what it's like 763 00:49:34,889 --> 00:49:38,392 to transcend your surroundings at all times. 764 00:49:38,476 --> 00:49:43,564 And float through the universe, being on some other level, 765 00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:46,442 uh, which is really what you aspire to as a musician 766 00:49:46,525 --> 00:49:49,570 is some sort of... you want to get to the "Medicine Man" level. 767 00:49:49,653 --> 00:49:52,948 And Keith Richards is like full-on "Medicine Man" level. 768 00:49:53,032 --> 00:49:55,868 Keith Richards could smoke in a hospital, that's what I'd say. 769 00:49:55,951 --> 00:49:59,079 And someone would say, "Oh, sorry, Mr. Richards, continue." 770 00:49:59,163 --> 00:50:01,081 And Chuck is around that 771 00:50:02,041 --> 00:50:05,419 knows that he has a place in that. 772 00:50:05,503 --> 00:50:08,881 I don't know if I've ever heard anybody in a room, 773 00:50:08,964 --> 00:50:11,425 you know, with me play the kind of boogie-woogie piano 774 00:50:11,509 --> 00:50:14,094 that he plays, man. He's amazing at that. 775 00:50:14,178 --> 00:50:16,388 He's doing stuff with the bassline 776 00:50:16,472 --> 00:50:20,059 that with one hand that, you know, I don't know if I can do with two. 777 00:50:25,189 --> 00:50:28,317 I think the whole thing with the Altman Brothers, they were about 778 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,154 jamming in their... in their playing, in their music. 779 00:50:32,238 --> 00:50:36,825 They didn't write things down, um, and The Stones are exactly the same. 780 00:50:36,909 --> 00:50:42,540 So, um, I think this also was good for Chuck because Chuck was used to that. 781 00:50:42,623 --> 00:50:44,291 I mean, The Stones is a band that, 782 00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:48,003 okay, we do obviously play a lot of the same songs. 783 00:50:48,087 --> 00:50:49,535 In the rehearsals and I said, "Guys, you 784 00:50:49,577 --> 00:50:51,215 know, the last time I was with you on tour", 785 00:50:51,298 --> 00:50:54,552 same set every night, you got this incredible body of work. 786 00:50:54,635 --> 00:50:57,346 You got new songs. We got to dig, let's dig deep. 787 00:50:57,429 --> 00:51:01,684 And I began, at that time, taking copious amounts of notes. 788 00:51:01,767 --> 00:51:04,478 I had a notebook and there's simple songs, 789 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,273 basically, but I wanted to chart them out. 790 00:51:07,356 --> 00:51:11,652 So I made chord charts for them just to, you know, have in my mind 791 00:51:11,735 --> 00:51:13,821 where the bridge was, where the solos were, 792 00:51:13,904 --> 00:51:16,604 was there horns, was there background vocals, whatever. 793 00:51:17,324 --> 00:51:19,743 Which I kind of go, "Where's the book, where's the book?" 794 00:51:19,827 --> 00:51:21,787 Chuck, you must have this one. I remember doing this..." 795 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:23,247 And then he says, "That was eight years ago." 796 00:51:23,330 --> 00:51:24,790 I said, "Yeah, but you got the notes." 797 00:51:24,873 --> 00:51:26,834 "Come on." We wanted to start from scratch. 798 00:51:26,917 --> 00:51:30,588 So we're... Chuck and I go through the book of all the arrangements 799 00:51:30,671 --> 00:51:32,298 of how we did this song. 800 00:51:32,381 --> 00:51:36,677 And he keeps amazing notes about what key... 801 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,054 we did each song in, and what city, 802 00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:41,974 what nights, it's like a... It's like his Bible, 803 00:51:42,057 --> 00:51:44,977 you know, he's like the gatekeeper. 804 00:51:45,894 --> 00:51:47,594 I mean, I know that sounds like... 805 00:51:48,439 --> 00:51:51,734 nothing much maybe, but to me, it's really important, 806 00:51:51,817 --> 00:51:54,528 because I... otherwise, every time you do a song, 807 00:51:54,612 --> 00:51:56,363 you start from scratch about how you did it. 808 00:51:56,447 --> 00:51:59,408 Eventually, they'd given me the moniker 809 00:51:59,491 --> 00:52:01,952 of musical director. 810 00:52:02,036 --> 00:52:05,414 I kind of scoff at that because Mick and Keith are the musical directors, 811 00:52:05,497 --> 00:52:08,238 but you know, they look to me from time to time 812 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,003 to remind them what the arrangements might be. 813 00:52:11,086 --> 00:52:13,464 Chuck is maneuvering through all of that... 814 00:52:14,423 --> 00:52:18,010 giving them structure without them feeling tethered. 815 00:52:19,345 --> 00:52:21,513 And that's a gift. 816 00:52:21,597 --> 00:52:24,433 As musicians, we have the ability, in a way, 817 00:52:24,516 --> 00:52:27,519 to become family with people right away. 818 00:52:27,603 --> 00:52:30,731 And Chuck has that also, you know, sort of very warm 819 00:52:30,814 --> 00:52:34,026 and welcoming feeling about him as a person. 820 00:52:34,109 --> 00:52:36,904 I think, if you go through Chuck Leavell's discography, 821 00:52:36,987 --> 00:52:39,281 look at all the records that he's played on. 822 00:52:39,365 --> 00:52:41,606 It would be difficult to match that 823 00:52:41,648 --> 00:52:44,453 accomplishment, to find any musician who... 824 00:52:44,536 --> 00:52:47,206 contributed more than Chuck Leavell. 825 00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:53,921 You see, he's indispensable, you know, he's an indispensable part of our setup. 826 00:52:54,004 --> 00:52:58,008 What's always impressed me about Chuck is that he has this whole other life... 827 00:52:58,092 --> 00:53:02,763 outside... outside music with his... with his forestry and environmental issues, 828 00:53:02,846 --> 00:53:06,892 and... you know, it's extremely impressive that somebody 829 00:53:06,975 --> 00:53:11,980 who has come so far in this very specific world of music... 830 00:53:13,065 --> 00:53:17,027 has another... has another life and is contributing something 831 00:53:17,111 --> 00:53:20,030 to... to society and ecology 832 00:53:20,114 --> 00:53:24,284 and the environment and giving talks at the... at the White House. 833 00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:26,495 I think the trees is really a good thing he does. 834 00:53:26,578 --> 00:53:29,456 He's obviously very sincere about it. 835 00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:34,253 He goes all over the world and, you know, it's not just about the trees in Georgia. 836 00:53:34,336 --> 00:53:36,338 I think it's a really, really good thing. 837 00:53:36,422 --> 00:53:39,258 And I try not to rib him, maybe I've ribbed him once, okay. 838 00:53:39,341 --> 00:53:41,009 I'll give tha... 839 00:53:41,093 --> 00:53:42,218 But I think it's really good work 840 00:53:42,302 --> 00:53:43,262 and it's nice to have something 841 00:53:43,345 --> 00:53:45,264 outside of music as well. 842 00:53:45,347 --> 00:53:48,183 Every plane trip we go on... 843 00:53:48,308 --> 00:53:51,895 and people are asleep while having beers and Chuck's there taping away. 844 00:53:51,979 --> 00:53:56,650 Um, he's... you know, he's a good... he's a good multitasker. 845 00:53:56,734 --> 00:53:58,193 He's a great emailer. 846 00:53:59,862 --> 00:54:00,988 And a great, um... 847 00:54:02,448 --> 00:54:04,408 campaigner for the forests... 848 00:54:05,492 --> 00:54:07,453 which can't be bad. 849 00:54:07,536 --> 00:54:11,415 He's not just good for, you know, for playing piano, 850 00:54:11,498 --> 00:54:14,209 Chuck is good for the environment. 851 00:54:14,334 --> 00:54:18,422 You know, he's trying to... he's trying to help save our planet. 852 00:54:18,505 --> 00:54:21,091 No, I'm not bored by that at all. 853 00:54:22,259 --> 00:54:23,359 We need more like him. 854 00:54:24,136 --> 00:54:25,888 It's about his heart. 855 00:54:25,971 --> 00:54:28,766 It really comes through his fingers. It really does. 856 00:54:28,849 --> 00:54:32,102 And to make that connection is a... is a blessed thing. 857 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,571 They're just super cute, man. 858 00:54:42,654 --> 00:54:45,324 They... they are... 859 00:54:45,407 --> 00:54:47,910 They're total... They're just a total team. 860 00:54:48,952 --> 00:54:54,958 They're so cool that you don't think of the time that they've been together. 861 00:54:55,042 --> 00:54:57,961 They really seem like they, you know, 862 00:54:58,045 --> 00:55:01,840 they could... they could easily have been together for three months, 863 00:55:01,924 --> 00:55:05,552 you know, they're just very steady 864 00:55:05,636 --> 00:55:09,181 and, um, really fun to hang out with. 865 00:55:10,307 --> 00:55:12,518 Trocadéro, honey. 866 00:55:12,601 --> 00:55:15,376 How many times have we been here, 15 or 20 or something? 867 00:55:15,418 --> 00:55:16,146 Many, many... 868 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:18,273 - Absolutely. - We got to get a selfie, right? 869 00:55:18,357 --> 00:55:19,233 - Yeah. - Hold on. 870 00:55:20,567 --> 00:55:23,028 All right, we got it. 871 00:55:28,575 --> 00:55:30,285 You want this one? 872 00:55:30,369 --> 00:55:32,579 - How much is it? - I don't... 873 00:55:32,663 --> 00:55:34,413 I don't know how much money I have. 874 00:55:34,748 --> 00:55:37,251 Yeah. Let's look at that. See, it's multicolored. 875 00:55:37,334 --> 00:55:39,503 Okay. 876 00:55:39,586 --> 00:55:42,047 - Look at it change colors. - Yeah. Change colors. 877 00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:46,176 All right. No, no, we'll ta... we'll take this. 878 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:48,804 - It's a bonus. - I'm broke now, you know this. 879 00:55:48,887 --> 00:55:50,806 Come on. 880 00:56:02,609 --> 00:56:06,613 One of the very interesting things about Paris 881 00:56:06,697 --> 00:56:09,491 is that, while it's known as the City of Lights, 882 00:56:09,575 --> 00:56:12,160 uh, it's actually also the city of trees. 883 00:56:12,244 --> 00:56:17,624 There's over 470,000 trees in Paris. 884 00:56:17,708 --> 00:56:20,586 And they are all documented. 885 00:56:20,669 --> 00:56:23,171 This looks like a piano stool. 886 00:56:27,634 --> 00:56:28,594 And so, now... 887 00:56:29,887 --> 00:56:31,430 I am le Capitan. 888 00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:36,018 We're going to do a song for you. 889 00:57:28,570 --> 00:57:30,280 ♪ I'm gonna take a freight train ♪ 890 00:57:31,657 --> 00:57:33,492 ♪ Down at the station ♪ 891 00:57:35,077 --> 00:57:37,371 ♪ Don't care where it goes ♪ 892 00:57:40,749 --> 00:57:42,084 ♪ Gonna climb a mountain ♪ 893 00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:45,462 ♪ The highest mountain ♪ 894 00:57:46,672 --> 00:57:49,800 ♪ Jump off, nobody gonna know ♪ 895 00:57:51,343 --> 00:57:52,552 ♪ Can't you see ♪ 896 00:57:54,388 --> 00:57:56,431 ♪ What that woman ♪ 897 00:57:56,556 --> 00:57:58,850 ♪ She been doin' to me ♪ 898 00:58:00,310 --> 00:58:02,020 ♪ Can't you see ♪ 899 00:58:02,104 --> 00:58:04,564 It's beautiful, isn't it? Wow. 900 00:58:04,648 --> 00:58:09,194 We had the lovely, little boat, and went up and down the Seine, and turned around, 901 00:58:09,277 --> 00:58:11,029 then come back, up and down. 902 00:58:12,698 --> 00:58:14,449 A beautiful day. 903 00:58:20,914 --> 00:58:22,916 Chuck Leavell on the piano there! 904 00:58:43,979 --> 00:58:46,979 We have a great show tonight, guys, give it up for The Roots! 905 00:58:48,025 --> 00:58:51,903 ♪ There's a big fat cat in a funny red hat ♪ 906 00:58:51,987 --> 00:58:53,321 ♪ Here he comes ♪ 907 00:58:55,282 --> 00:58:57,909 ♪ He got something in his bag ♪ 908 00:58:57,993 --> 00:59:00,078 ♪ Yeah, for everyone ♪ 909 00:59:02,956 --> 00:59:06,668 ♪ Well, up on the rooftop one, two, three ♪ 910 00:59:06,752 --> 00:59:10,338 ♪ And then he slide on down the chimney ♪ 911 00:59:10,422 --> 00:59:11,882 ♪ Hey Santa ♪ 912 00:59:13,258 --> 00:59:15,886 ♪ What's in your bag for me? ♪ 913 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,981 My man, that is Rolling Stones keyboardist and music director, 914 00:59:28,065 --> 00:59:30,817 Chuck Leavell, sitting in with The Roots tonight. 915 00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:36,114 Chuck, we love you, buddy. Welcome back. Always good to see you, buddy. 916 00:59:36,198 --> 00:59:38,382 Chuck is also the co-founder of the leading 917 00:59:38,424 --> 00:59:40,702 environmental website Mother Nature Network. 918 00:59:42,996 --> 00:59:45,791 I believe in this stuff. I believe in climate change. 919 00:59:45,874 --> 00:59:49,002 And I believe we've got to make these changes in our attitudes 920 00:59:49,086 --> 00:59:53,882 towards the environment. And our staff and my partner, Joel, 921 00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:56,718 whom I love so much, um... 922 00:59:57,761 --> 01:00:03,183 Everyone at MNN just does a wonderful job because they believe in it too. 923 01:00:03,266 --> 01:00:05,644 You know, it's in their DNA. It's in their blood. 924 01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:10,357 They want to see these changes come about, they want to offer the general public 925 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,693 options to live better, to be kinder to the planet. 926 01:00:13,777 --> 01:00:16,404 And I'm just as proud as I can be of all of our staff. 927 01:00:16,488 --> 01:00:19,741 We at Mother Nature Network always went much 928 01:00:19,825 --> 01:00:21,576 broader than energy and recycling. 929 01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:25,163 We always had travel and food and family. 930 01:00:25,247 --> 01:00:27,582 You know, the site had rapidly became 931 01:00:27,666 --> 01:00:32,587 and still is by far the most visited site in the world 932 01:00:32,712 --> 01:00:35,799 for profit in the environmental category. 933 01:00:35,882 --> 01:00:41,721 We get people from 200 different countries, close to 7 million a month, 934 01:00:41,805 --> 01:00:47,602 you know, they... they just love what they do and they believe in making a change 935 01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:50,438 and that works for me. 936 01:00:50,522 --> 01:00:54,568 He is as knowledgeable on the topic as anybody, I mean, he can discuss 937 01:00:54,651 --> 01:01:01,241 the chemistry and, uh... and geology, and all of the 938 01:01:01,324 --> 01:01:06,371 very academic aspects of the topic with experts, 939 01:01:06,454 --> 01:01:07,956 and in an expert way. 940 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:10,750 When you think about it. Okay, trees and forest. 941 01:01:10,834 --> 01:01:15,630 Well, they give us materials for books, magazines, newspapers, packaging products. 942 01:01:15,755 --> 01:01:18,550 They give us materials to build our homes. 943 01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:21,303 They provide clean air, clean Water. 944 01:01:21,386 --> 01:01:24,723 They provide home and shelter to all manner of wildlife. 945 01:01:24,806 --> 01:01:28,310 And, you know, I love the saying... 946 01:01:28,393 --> 01:01:30,812 that Ralph Waldo Emerson has... 947 01:01:32,772 --> 01:01:37,402 His quote was: "In the woods, we return to reason and faith." 948 01:01:45,410 --> 01:01:46,870 What does that mean to you? 949 01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:49,873 Oh, man, it's so true, you know, um... 950 01:01:49,956 --> 01:01:53,460 it helps keep me balanced. 951 01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:58,173 You know, when you live in the world, it can get pretty crazy from time to time. 952 01:01:58,256 --> 01:02:03,136 And you take that walk in the woods and see some deer dancing through there, 953 01:02:03,220 --> 01:02:07,057 you know, see a wild turkey, a covey of quail, songbirds, 954 01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:10,352 uh, black bear. We have black bear here. 955 01:02:10,435 --> 01:02:15,607 And just, you know, hear the sound of the wind in the pines, that's a good thing. 956 01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:35,460 Prescribed burning can be one of the best tools used in certain forests. 957 01:02:35,543 --> 01:02:38,046 You have to know what you're doing. You have to do it right. 958 01:02:38,129 --> 01:02:39,755 You have to do it at the right time. 959 01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:42,676 You have to understand all the dynamics involved. 960 01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:46,805 But it can be such a positive outcome. 961 01:02:46,888 --> 01:02:52,602 Uh, what does it do? You're reducing competition against those mature trees 962 01:02:52,686 --> 01:02:55,802 so that the sunlight, the water goes more to 963 01:02:55,844 --> 01:02:58,858 the trees that you want on that landscape, 964 01:02:58,942 --> 01:03:01,853 rather than scrubby Oaks and undesirable 965 01:03:01,895 --> 01:03:05,365 growth that is in the understory of the forest. 966 01:03:05,448 --> 01:03:09,369 It also helps reduce the incident of wildfire. 967 01:03:09,452 --> 01:03:14,291 You're getting rid of the fuel that might build up over years. 968 01:03:14,374 --> 01:03:17,324 And then when that wildfire hits, boom, you lose everything. 969 01:03:19,587 --> 01:03:22,507 One early memory on the farm I have of my dad, 970 01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:24,718 he loves his burns and he just loves burning 971 01:03:24,801 --> 01:03:27,762 and he said he definitely set a couple things on fire 972 01:03:27,887 --> 01:03:30,265 in a bad way. "I'm learning how to do that." 973 01:03:30,348 --> 01:03:34,686 But I remember he would set his burns and we would go out and ride 974 01:03:34,769 --> 01:03:37,230 at dusk and check out... 975 01:03:37,314 --> 01:03:40,567 you know, how everything was looking. Just the beauty of seeing those little fires, 976 01:03:40,650 --> 01:03:42,444 they're low, you know, less than a foot. 977 01:03:42,527 --> 01:03:44,988 And then growing into becoming really an expert, 978 01:03:45,071 --> 01:03:48,283 winning tree farmer of the year, you know, nationally. 979 01:03:48,366 --> 01:03:52,620 And starting to speak about conservation and becoming extremely knowledgeable 980 01:03:52,704 --> 01:03:55,081 to the point that he can school other people on that, 981 01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:58,835 has been interesting to watch over the last 35 years. 982 01:04:01,171 --> 01:04:03,757 You know, we're seeing what's happened out in California 983 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,717 and the West with all of these fires, 984 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,346 and if they had the opportunity 985 01:04:09,429 --> 01:04:12,474 to do an occasional, prescribed burn, 986 01:04:12,557 --> 01:04:14,625 I don't think you'd be seeing nearly the 987 01:04:14,667 --> 01:04:16,936 devastation that you are seeing these days. 988 01:04:19,939 --> 01:04:22,901 The most important thing you're going to do 989 01:04:22,984 --> 01:04:25,236 when you're going to initiate a prescribed burn, 990 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,157 is to cut a fire break all the way around the area that you want to burn. 991 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,203 So, you know, in Charlane Plantation, 992 01:04:33,286 --> 01:04:36,039 I have what's called an offset Harrow. 993 01:04:36,122 --> 01:04:39,417 Uh, it's basically kind of a plow. 994 01:04:39,501 --> 01:04:43,171 And you go around the area with this 995 01:04:43,254 --> 01:04:49,135 to make the dirt pop up and to get rid of any grasses or, you know, 996 01:04:49,219 --> 01:04:54,599 items, sticks, whatever that might cause a fire to get out. 997 01:04:54,682 --> 01:04:57,310 And you make a nice, wide firebreak. 998 01:04:57,394 --> 01:05:02,482 Um, and that's the first thing you do to keep the fire 999 01:05:02,565 --> 01:05:04,984 where you want it to be and not let it jump out. 1000 01:05:05,860 --> 01:05:09,072 When you make a little country album, when you have Frank Liddell 1001 01:05:09,155 --> 01:05:10,990 and he calls Chuck Leavell, and you get a taste of 1002 01:05:11,074 --> 01:05:16,496 that absolute rock and roll royalty on your record. 1003 01:05:16,579 --> 01:05:18,456 It's... it's a treat. 1004 01:05:18,540 --> 01:05:20,208 And definitely also for Pistol Annies, 1005 01:05:20,291 --> 01:05:22,752 I mean, he's played on almost every one of my records 1006 01:05:22,836 --> 01:05:27,382 and Annies' records. And... you know, it's funny that all... a lot of the music 1007 01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:31,261 that we listen to on a day-to-day basis that we love, that inspires us so much, 1008 01:05:31,344 --> 01:05:32,971 he was on that and now he's on our own records. 1009 01:05:33,054 --> 01:05:39,227 I have this fantastic picture of us in '89 1010 01:05:39,310 --> 01:05:43,481 of Steel Wheels tour, we played Legion Field in Birmingham, Alabama. 1011 01:05:43,565 --> 01:05:46,860 I sent a car down for Mom and her friend. I took her to the concert, 1012 01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:50,363 and I have this fabulous picture just before we walked on stage 1013 01:05:50,447 --> 01:05:55,452 with Mom and her friend and the whole band. And, you know, morn's sitting 1014 01:05:55,535 --> 01:05:59,622 on her purse looking up at me. It was fantastic. 1015 01:05:59,706 --> 01:06:01,374 And now, everyone, 1016 01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:03,626 how fantastic that you are inducting Chuck 1017 01:06:03,710 --> 01:06:06,045 into the Alabama Music Hall of Fame. 1018 01:06:06,129 --> 01:06:08,882 Sorry he couldn't be with you tonight. 1019 01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:10,547 And it's our fault, really. 1020 01:06:10,589 --> 01:06:13,052 We want to say that Chuck is just the most 1021 01:06:13,136 --> 01:06:14,975 amazing keyboard player and he's really 1022 01:06:15,017 --> 01:06:17,140 worthy of this great honor you've given him. 1023 01:06:17,223 --> 01:06:21,227 Yes, and diamond tiaras. And Chuck will know what I mean. 1024 01:06:21,311 --> 01:06:24,939 Greetings from South America, he's here with us now. Sends his love. 1025 01:06:25,064 --> 01:06:27,275 Congratulations, Chuck! 1026 01:06:32,530 --> 01:06:33,490 Yeah. 1027 01:06:55,762 --> 01:06:57,305 Here you go, darling. 1028 01:06:57,388 --> 01:06:59,390 - Thank you. - Cheers. 1029 01:06:59,474 --> 01:07:01,226 - Cheers. - Life is good. 1030 01:07:01,309 --> 01:07:03,603 - Life is good. - Aren't we blessed? 1031 01:07:03,686 --> 01:07:05,313 Yes, very blessed. 1032 01:07:08,107 --> 01:07:08,942 All right. 1033 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:36,010 It's nice to have this quiet time before we go. 1034 01:07:36,135 --> 01:07:37,971 True, with the birds chirping. 1035 01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:40,682 - Mm. - And the dogs. And the puppies. 1036 01:07:42,725 --> 01:07:45,603 Well, I can tell you this, that at the present time, 1037 01:07:45,687 --> 01:07:49,190 uh, I'm seeing the third 1038 01:07:49,274 --> 01:07:53,111 severe drought... on Charlane Plantation. 1039 01:07:53,194 --> 01:07:55,679 You know, there's really nothing you can do 1040 01:07:55,721 --> 01:07:58,366 to, um, prevent this. This is nature at work. 1041 01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:03,788 You know, these bugs have always been here throughout the eons of time. 1042 01:08:03,871 --> 01:08:08,668 They're usually kept in check by cold and wet weather, but with climate change 1043 01:08:08,751 --> 01:08:11,838 as it is, you're seeing more and more, 1044 01:08:11,921 --> 01:08:16,259 uh, hot weather, we set records every year now here in Georgia. 1045 01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:21,055 This year, we set a record of the most days above 90 degrees, 1046 01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:23,725 and when you're getting that much heat throughout the summer time 1047 01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:26,269 and throughout even the fall... 1048 01:08:26,352 --> 01:08:31,065 it just creates a situation where these bugs can't thrive. And if you hit that 1049 01:08:31,149 --> 01:08:34,068 drought like we've had here, this is what happens. 1050 01:08:34,152 --> 01:08:36,487 I mean, there's no way to come in here and spray anything. 1051 01:08:36,571 --> 01:08:41,284 There's nothing to spray, no chemical you would want to use to spray this anyway. 1052 01:08:43,453 --> 01:08:48,082 So there's basically three insects that you worry about here in the South. 1053 01:08:48,166 --> 01:08:51,377 There's the ips beetle, I-P-S, ips. 1054 01:08:51,461 --> 01:08:53,379 There's black gum turpentine beetle. 1055 01:08:53,463 --> 01:08:56,257 And then the worst guy is the southern pine beetle, 1056 01:08:56,341 --> 01:08:59,510 the speed of these bugs kind of depends on the exact, 1057 01:08:59,594 --> 01:09:03,056 uh, bug we're talking about. A southern pine beetle... 1058 01:09:03,139 --> 01:09:08,061 in the proper conditions, you know, they can eat up probably an acre a day 1059 01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:13,524 or better, um, the ips and the black gum turpentine 1060 01:09:13,608 --> 01:09:16,151 are going to be a little slower. And you can tell that by these 1061 01:09:16,235 --> 01:09:19,035 little, small things that look like popcorn, 1062 01:09:19,077 --> 01:09:21,532 these little white specks on the tree, 1063 01:09:21,616 --> 01:09:26,913 which is... crumbling now, but it was full of sap at one time. 1064 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,750 And so, what are we going to do? 1065 01:09:30,833 --> 01:09:32,794 Well... 1066 01:09:32,877 --> 01:09:36,673 you try to make lemonade out of lemons is what you try to do. 1067 01:09:36,756 --> 01:09:40,551 First of all, you need to arrest this, you want it to stop. 1068 01:09:40,635 --> 01:09:43,596 I've walked around this a good bit and we had a lot of wind 1069 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,306 during that period of time as well. 1070 01:09:45,390 --> 01:09:47,850 And what happens is, these bugs literally get blown 1071 01:09:47,934 --> 01:09:49,936 from one area to another. 1072 01:09:50,019 --> 01:09:52,480 My best guess is that I've got about 12 acres here 1073 01:09:52,563 --> 01:09:54,482 that's going to have to be wiped out. 1074 01:09:54,565 --> 01:09:57,068 If there's good news about it, 1075 01:09:57,151 --> 01:09:59,654 the lemonade is that a lot of these trees 1076 01:09:59,737 --> 01:10:02,990 are perfect size to make fence posts. 1077 01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:04,951 And that's a pretty desirable product. 1078 01:10:05,034 --> 01:10:07,995 So I've already talked to my forester and my logger 1079 01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:11,290 and we're going to take all of this and get as many fis... 1080 01:10:11,374 --> 01:10:13,876 Fence posts out of it as we can. 1081 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,211 The rest of it might go a little bit for pulpwood. 1082 01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:19,424 And some of it just have to be chipped up for energy. 1083 01:10:19,507 --> 01:10:21,384 This is real. It's happening. 1084 01:10:21,467 --> 01:10:23,761 We need to do something about it. 1085 01:10:23,845 --> 01:10:27,098 You see what's happening at the Amazon basin 1086 01:10:27,181 --> 01:10:29,475 with the forest fires there in recent times. 1087 01:10:29,559 --> 01:10:32,770 There have been thousands of fires. 1088 01:10:32,854 --> 01:10:35,481 That is the lungs of the planet. 1089 01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:40,820 We lose that, you know, it's like contracting cancer. 1090 01:10:54,417 --> 01:10:55,626 ♪ I can't feel ♪ 1091 01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:57,503 He's just, you know, 1092 01:10:57,587 --> 01:10:59,088 a great guy. 1093 01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:03,050 ♪ I can't shout ♪ 1094 01:11:04,844 --> 01:11:06,387 ♪ I can't scream ♪ 1095 01:11:08,431 --> 01:11:09,682 ♪ Breathe it out ♪ 1096 01:11:11,893 --> 01:11:13,519 ♪ Breathe it in ♪ 1097 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:17,023 ♪ All this love ♪ 1098 01:11:18,858 --> 01:11:20,318 ♪ From within ♪ 1099 01:11:21,778 --> 01:11:24,781 For me, it's really a love story. 1100 01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:29,035 ♪ Said goodbye ♪ 1101 01:11:29,118 --> 01:11:31,913 ♪ I'm out of tears ♪ 1102 01:11:35,124 --> 01:11:38,294 And, uh, excuse me. 1103 01:11:40,171 --> 01:11:45,426 Yeah, uh, 40, 46 years now we've been together, 1104 01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:49,889 and, uh, woo, that girl's been mighty good to me. 1105 01:11:52,767 --> 01:11:54,519 We have a very special thing. 1106 01:11:56,854 --> 01:12:02,068 Farming and just all that just brought him to be who he is really 1107 01:12:02,151 --> 01:12:07,698 the Chuck Leavell, not the musician, just the Chuck Leavell the man. 1108 01:12:08,574 --> 01:12:10,576 ♪ I can't hear ♪ 1109 01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:12,328 It's amazing... 1110 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,830 that he can live that kind of life. 1111 01:12:16,707 --> 01:12:18,709 And be in that kind of place. 1112 01:12:20,086 --> 01:12:24,465 And then go play for the Rolling Stones and play for a million people, 1113 01:12:24,549 --> 01:12:27,218 you know, in South America. It's nuts. 1114 01:12:27,301 --> 01:12:29,762 Mom and Dad both were great at old sayings, 1115 01:12:29,846 --> 01:12:32,974 you know, Mom would say, "Stitch in time saves nine." 1116 01:12:33,057 --> 01:12:34,976 Dad would say, "Well, you make your own luck." 1117 01:12:35,059 --> 01:12:37,562 You know, that one always stuck with me. 1118 01:12:37,645 --> 01:12:39,772 You make your own luck. What does that mean? 1119 01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:43,317 It means learning how to be in the right place at the right time. 1120 01:12:43,401 --> 01:12:46,946 The story of my career has been very fortunate 1121 01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:49,115 to one thing leads to another. 1122 01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:50,992 And so, in 1989, 1123 01:12:51,075 --> 01:12:53,911 we're on tour with The Stones, Steel Wheels... 1124 01:12:55,162 --> 01:12:57,874 the band decides to have a special guest. 1125 01:12:57,957 --> 01:13:01,794 Well, they called Eric Clapton, and he did several shows with us. 1126 01:13:01,878 --> 01:13:05,673 Being Eric Clapton, the band said, "Well, let's do a blues song." 1127 01:13:05,756 --> 01:13:09,510 So we did "Little Red Rooster," Howlin' Wolf. 1128 01:13:09,594 --> 01:13:11,304 ♪ I am the little red rooster ♪ 1129 01:13:11,387 --> 01:13:13,180 You know, Mick sings it so great. 1130 01:13:13,264 --> 01:13:16,350 And so, we have a nice musical conversation. 1131 01:13:16,434 --> 01:13:18,686 You know, I'm being careful. I don't want to step 1132 01:13:18,769 --> 01:13:21,105 on anybody's toes. This is Eric Clapton over here, right? 1133 01:13:21,188 --> 01:13:26,068 It was that playing... playing with Chuck at that point that maybe realize that... 1134 01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:31,866 that it was the real thing. I actually needed something credible to play with. 1135 01:13:31,949 --> 01:13:36,078 I get home and on my cassette there's this unbelievable message. 1136 01:13:36,162 --> 01:13:40,583 "Hello. This is Eric Clapton calling from Hong Kong... 1137 01:13:40,666 --> 01:13:43,252 wondering if Chuck Leavell might be interested 1138 01:13:43,336 --> 01:13:46,672 in doing some dates at the Royal Albert Hall." 1139 01:13:46,756 --> 01:13:50,468 Yes, I would, I would be very interested in that. 1140 01:13:50,551 --> 01:13:53,387 I would be extremely interested in that. 1141 01:13:53,512 --> 01:13:57,058 And so, you know, I answered the call and we had long been 1142 01:13:57,141 --> 01:14:00,061 finished with the Steel Wheels tour and I think it was '91. 1143 01:14:01,062 --> 01:14:04,190 We did 24 nights at the Albert Hall. 1144 01:14:04,273 --> 01:14:06,859 I played 18 of those 24 nights with him. 1145 01:14:06,943 --> 01:14:10,696 One of the most soulful white musicians I ever came across. 1146 01:14:10,780 --> 01:14:15,409 Partly because I guess he was steeped in it and from where he came from, 1147 01:14:15,493 --> 01:14:18,579 but he was kind of like Mr. natural and... 1148 01:14:18,663 --> 01:14:21,582 And he was very... he was always positive. 1149 01:14:21,666 --> 01:14:24,794 He was always positive and very supportive. 1150 01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:28,172 The tragedy is that Eric was going to take a year off 1151 01:14:28,255 --> 01:14:32,093 after the Albert Hall shows and after doing this work. 1152 01:14:32,176 --> 01:14:36,263 And he wanted to spend time with his son, Conor. 1153 01:14:36,347 --> 01:14:38,057 And we all know what happened, 1154 01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:40,101 you know, it was a horrible, tragic accident 1155 01:14:40,184 --> 01:14:43,980 where Conor falls out of the high-rise building in New York. 1156 01:14:44,939 --> 01:14:49,652 Well, I'll tell you something, when... I've been sober for about... 1157 01:14:49,735 --> 01:14:53,447 four years when my son died, and there was a lot of talk 1158 01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:56,742 about whether I would... That would be, um... 1159 01:14:58,035 --> 01:15:00,204 that's what I was going to... I was going to pick up. 1160 01:15:00,287 --> 01:15:01,706 You know, I was going to pick up. 1161 01:15:01,789 --> 01:15:05,668 So... after the obvious period of grief 1162 01:15:05,751 --> 01:15:09,839 and trying to figure that out, he decided, "I need to work. 1163 01:15:09,922 --> 01:15:12,341 I don't need to take any time off." 1164 01:15:12,425 --> 01:15:15,678 And so he had challenged George Harrison. 1165 01:15:16,637 --> 01:15:19,974 Kind of to a tour, you know... 1166 01:15:20,057 --> 01:15:23,394 "Hey, man, you make a record every five years or so, 1167 01:15:23,477 --> 01:15:26,564 but you don't get in the trenches like we do, you know." 1168 01:15:26,647 --> 01:15:30,359 "But I don't have a band, I don't have a band." Eric says, "Well, I got 1169 01:15:30,443 --> 01:15:32,820 a band and you can have it and you can have me." 1170 01:15:32,903 --> 01:15:34,488 So, there we go, 1171 01:15:34,572 --> 01:15:37,033 you know, we work up this tour with George. 1172 01:15:37,116 --> 01:15:40,119 Last tour that he did, the tour of Japan. 1173 01:15:40,202 --> 01:15:43,873 Eric Clapton and band backing him up, man. 1174 01:15:43,956 --> 01:15:46,167 Wow. What an opportunity. 1175 01:15:46,250 --> 01:15:49,670 And I was hanging out with him early on 1176 01:15:49,754 --> 01:15:52,006 and found out that that he had played with George Harrison. 1177 01:15:52,089 --> 01:15:54,675 That was kind of the topper for me. 1178 01:15:54,759 --> 01:15:57,887 Like, that was the one where I was like, "Okay, you got to tell me everything" 1179 01:15:57,970 --> 01:16:02,516 "about that gig." You know, so, we spent... we spent a couple of nights... 1180 01:16:02,641 --> 01:16:05,394 um, recounting George Harrison stories. 1181 01:16:05,478 --> 01:16:08,272 Some of us in the band tried so hard to get George 1182 01:16:08,355 --> 01:16:13,736 to take it to the U.S.. And, you know, Eric was doing George a favor obviously, 1183 01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:16,571 and I don't think Eric was interested in continuing that. 1184 01:16:16,655 --> 01:16:19,241 And the next thing we did, was the Unplugged record. 1185 01:16:19,325 --> 01:16:21,410 It had been going for a while, Unplugged, 1186 01:16:21,494 --> 01:16:23,579 uh, on a few people who'd, um... 1187 01:16:24,872 --> 01:16:28,084 I'd use that format in a fairly successful way. 1188 01:16:28,167 --> 01:16:33,672 But to... what I'd seen up till almost that point, 1189 01:16:33,756 --> 01:16:39,220 uh, was people just doing their recorded material 1190 01:16:39,303 --> 01:16:41,430 in an acoustic setting. And I thought, 1191 01:16:41,514 --> 01:16:44,183 "Well, that's interesting and all well and good." 1192 01:16:44,266 --> 01:16:46,852 But then I saw Hall and Oates do it. 1193 01:16:46,936 --> 01:16:50,356 And they did a Beatles song called "Don't Let Me Down." 1194 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,149 I think it's a Lennon song. 1195 01:16:53,025 --> 01:16:55,486 And I twigged, I finally thought, I mean, 1196 01:16:55,569 --> 01:16:57,516 I realize what you could do. And I 1197 01:16:57,558 --> 01:17:00,074 thought, "Well, okay, I can do renditions." 1198 01:17:00,157 --> 01:17:04,912 This has got nothing to do with me playing my own material. 1199 01:17:04,995 --> 01:17:10,084 I can do... I can do other things, and "Alberta" was one of them, 1200 01:17:10,167 --> 01:17:16,382 because it was one of my favorite songs. And it's always been a challenge to me... 1201 01:17:16,465 --> 01:17:21,554 to take a solo performance and turn it into a band arrangement. 1202 01:17:21,637 --> 01:17:24,181 I think it's the most challenging and interesting 1203 01:17:24,265 --> 01:17:26,976 and satisfying thing about making music. 1204 01:17:27,059 --> 01:17:29,770 ♪ Where you been so long? ♪ 1205 01:17:32,773 --> 01:17:35,526 ♪ Alberta, Alberta ♪ 1206 01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:41,031 ♪ Where you been so long? ♪ 1207 01:17:41,115 --> 01:17:43,075 And so, that was my first show... 1208 01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:44,743 Chuck Leavell! 1209 01:17:44,827 --> 01:17:46,620 ...as the only keyboard player with Eric. 1210 01:17:46,704 --> 01:17:48,164 Chuck is a very sentimental guy. 1211 01:17:48,247 --> 01:17:51,584 And I think he... he likes things with emotion. 1212 01:18:01,677 --> 01:18:05,431 ♪ Would you know my name ♪ 1213 01:18:07,766 --> 01:18:11,187 ♪ if I saw you in heaven? ♪ 1214 01:18:14,190 --> 01:18:20,863 He can combine a rhythm section feel with... with delicacy. 1215 01:18:20,946 --> 01:18:23,240 You know, that was an incredible, um... 1216 01:18:24,241 --> 01:18:27,369 incredible way of being almost not there, you know. 1217 01:18:27,453 --> 01:18:32,166 But just shift the thing on, because he swings like crazy. 1218 01:18:32,249 --> 01:18:35,586 You know, that's... that's not easy. 1219 01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:37,922 You know, that's... that's a gift, really. 1220 01:18:38,839 --> 01:18:42,176 We had rehearsed the song "Old Love," right? 1221 01:18:43,969 --> 01:18:46,472 And I thought it sounded great. 1222 01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:50,351 But Eric said, "No." I think maybe he felt like it was, you know, 1223 01:18:50,434 --> 01:18:52,659 one ballad too many or he... for whatever 1224 01:18:52,701 --> 01:18:55,356 reason, he decided he didn't want it in the set. 1225 01:18:55,439 --> 01:19:00,486 I was disappointed. But okay, so we go through the set, the whole show. 1226 01:19:00,569 --> 01:19:05,282 We play the encore, I think it was a couple of... couple of encores. 1227 01:19:05,366 --> 01:19:07,576 Audience wanted more, the band's feeling great. 1228 01:19:07,660 --> 01:19:11,288 Everything's going, and I don't know why he turned to me, but he did 1229 01:19:11,372 --> 01:19:15,459 and he said, "What can we do?" I said, "Do 'Old Love, ' man." 1230 01:19:15,542 --> 01:19:19,129 And... and that was one of the greatest moments of the night. 1231 01:19:43,070 --> 01:19:46,031 ♪ I can feel your body ♪ 1232 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,413 ♪ When I'm lying in my bed ♪ 1233 01:21:00,981 --> 01:21:02,483 ♪ Old love ♪ 1234 01:21:02,566 --> 01:21:05,110 Any time you needed to know whether or not 1235 01:21:05,194 --> 01:21:08,030 it was going well, I could look at Chuck 1236 01:21:08,113 --> 01:21:10,824 and I knew we were doing all right, you know. 1237 01:21:10,949 --> 01:21:12,826 He would feed that thing to you. 1238 01:21:12,951 --> 01:21:14,703 To contribute to that... 1239 01:21:15,954 --> 01:21:20,959 and stand out, but not in a... An aggressive way. 1240 01:21:21,043 --> 01:21:22,711 If you want to... if you want to focus on 1241 01:21:22,753 --> 01:21:24,588 Chuck, you're going to have a lot of reward. 1242 01:21:24,671 --> 01:21:26,558 But if he's playing with other famous 1243 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,051 musicians, then you can you can certainly focus 1244 01:21:29,134 --> 01:21:31,762 on them and Chuck will only be adding to what they're doing. 1245 01:21:31,845 --> 01:21:35,849 So it's a gift that he has that... that he could... he could... he could stand out 1246 01:21:35,933 --> 01:21:40,104 even more if he wanted to, he's a great solo artist in his own right, 1247 01:21:40,187 --> 01:21:42,815 but he can play with almost anyone and make them better, 1248 01:21:42,898 --> 01:21:44,274 and that's not easy. 1249 01:22:13,887 --> 01:22:18,475 ♪ Yeah, women think I'm tasty ♪ 1250 01:22:18,559 --> 01:22:21,353 ♪ Make me burn a candle right down ♪ 1251 01:22:21,437 --> 01:22:23,981 You can look at being a keyboard player as two things. 1252 01:22:24,064 --> 01:22:26,066 You can look at it as accompaniment 1253 01:22:26,150 --> 01:22:30,779 or you can look at it as co-creation, co-composition, 1254 01:22:30,863 --> 01:22:33,657 and he is one of those players, 1255 01:22:33,740 --> 01:22:35,909 you know, Chick Corea is like that too, you know. 1256 01:22:35,993 --> 01:22:40,289 I mean, I can't think of many players outside of those two where... 1257 01:22:40,372 --> 01:22:43,208 they're listening to what you're doing and they're interacting in real time 1258 01:22:43,292 --> 01:22:45,919 and they are almost producing their part. 1259 01:22:46,044 --> 01:22:48,505 They're not just hammering away. 1260 01:22:48,589 --> 01:22:50,674 They're consciously listening to what the 1261 01:22:50,716 --> 01:22:53,051 lyric is in your song, what you're going for, 1262 01:22:53,135 --> 01:22:56,805 whether or not you've hit it yet. And they kind of sit next to you on 1263 01:22:56,889 --> 01:22:59,391 the trip to find what's there. And... 1264 01:23:00,601 --> 01:23:03,937 listening back to these, even jams quote unquote, you know, 1265 01:23:04,062 --> 01:23:07,399 that we were writing stuff, coming up with stuff, you listen back to it 1266 01:23:07,483 --> 01:23:10,944 and you end up humming the Chuck Leavell parts, you know. 1267 01:23:11,028 --> 01:23:13,505 You give Chuck Leavell 100 solos on the 1268 01:23:13,547 --> 01:23:16,325 same song and all 100 of them are hummable. 1269 01:23:16,408 --> 01:23:19,912 On the "Born and Raised" sessions that we did with Don Was... 1270 01:23:19,995 --> 01:23:21,413 Don brought Chuck in... 1271 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,311 and those were writing sessions a lot of that 1272 01:23:25,353 --> 01:23:27,461 time, some of it was stuff I already had. 1273 01:23:27,544 --> 01:23:30,506 But a lot of that was free form like writing in the studio. 1274 01:23:30,589 --> 01:23:37,262 Just to watch the process that he has, um, its kind of an on-the-fly deal. 1275 01:23:37,346 --> 01:23:40,766 He'll come up with a riff and it sound... and it's sounding great. 1276 01:23:40,849 --> 01:23:44,269 And then he'll start mumbling or, you know, coming up with 1277 01:23:44,353 --> 01:23:47,481 nothing and then something, and before you know it, 1278 01:23:47,564 --> 01:23:48,982 this guy has this great song written. 1279 01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:51,109 It's just a fantastic process to watch. 1280 01:23:51,193 --> 01:23:52,110 He's a genius. 1281 01:24:00,994 --> 01:24:05,332 Well, "Queen of California" was on the Born and Raised record. 1282 01:24:05,415 --> 01:24:08,877 And, uh, John wanted to do a video for it. 1283 01:24:10,546 --> 01:24:13,507 We thought, "Well, that's a generous thing, yeah, sure, 1284 01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:15,467 we'd love to be in your video, man." 1285 01:24:15,551 --> 01:24:17,886 So, he flies us out to California. 1286 01:24:19,096 --> 01:24:24,017 Huge, huge, uh, studio, one of the biggest indoor 1287 01:24:24,142 --> 01:24:25,644 facilities I've ever seen. 1288 01:24:26,687 --> 01:24:29,273 And there's this incredible set up. 1289 01:24:29,356 --> 01:24:32,985 They're going to do a long shoot all the way through the song. 1290 01:24:33,068 --> 01:24:36,822 Starts with John in a bedroom playing his guitar. 1291 01:24:36,905 --> 01:24:41,034 Uh, he walks out of the bedroom into another set... 1292 01:24:41,118 --> 01:24:42,452 into another set. 1293 01:24:43,495 --> 01:24:47,457 He eventually comes into a room where us musicians are stationed 1294 01:24:47,541 --> 01:24:50,002 and, you know, plays with the musicians. 1295 01:24:51,837 --> 01:24:55,299 Was one of the most fascinating videos I've ever done in my life. 1296 01:24:57,634 --> 01:25:01,888 He is the rarest combination of honky-tonk, 1297 01:25:01,972 --> 01:25:04,474 southern rollicking R&B. 1298 01:25:04,558 --> 01:25:09,313 He will sip wine to play like he's drunk on Whiskey. 1299 01:25:13,817 --> 01:25:15,378 Thinking about coming out with like a "Gimme 1300 01:25:15,420 --> 01:25:16,987 Shelter," or something like... second half? 1301 01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:18,780 - Yeah. - Just leaving you in. 1302 01:25:18,864 --> 01:25:20,699 - Yeah. - Just come out, stay out. 1303 01:25:20,782 --> 01:25:22,868 "Jack Daniels" is in that set, "Mixed Drinks" is in that set. 1304 01:25:22,951 --> 01:25:25,454 We'll do "Honky Tonk Women" or something with Joe. 1305 01:25:25,537 --> 01:25:27,956 Uh, stay all the way through the end. 1306 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,000 - We'll do "Lowdown." - Okay. 1307 01:25:30,083 --> 01:25:31,752 - You're going to do "Lowdown"? - Just do "Lowdown" there 1308 01:25:31,835 --> 01:25:33,879 'cause I know you got a little customized version of it. 1309 01:25:33,962 --> 01:25:35,631 Yeah, I just kind of do it for me. 1310 01:25:35,714 --> 01:25:37,549 Do you want me to play on the intro? 1311 01:25:37,633 --> 01:25:39,176 - Yeah. Yeah. - All right. 1312 01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:40,759 Let me... let me try that one. 1313 01:26:09,873 --> 01:26:13,001 I messed up that very last section where it hangs on the G to C. 1314 01:26:13,085 --> 01:26:14,920 - That one, four, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. 1315 01:26:15,003 --> 01:26:17,153 - Uh, could you just do that for me? - Yeah. 1316 01:26:26,682 --> 01:26:27,516 Go again. 1317 01:26:38,819 --> 01:26:40,696 Let's take it from there. Take it from there one more time. 1318 01:26:40,779 --> 01:26:44,366 One more time from that section. 3, 4 and... 1319 01:27:19,735 --> 01:27:23,155 My brother-in-law, he said my dad is like the Forrest Gump 1320 01:27:23,238 --> 01:27:26,283 of classic rock. And it is, it's like, if you 1321 01:27:26,366 --> 01:27:30,370 look at, like, every seminal moment in classic rock history, 1322 01:27:30,454 --> 01:27:31,913 Chuck Leavell was there. 1323 01:27:34,499 --> 01:27:40,130 My dad was being awarded the highest honor for the Captain Planet Foundation. 1324 01:27:40,213 --> 01:27:43,925 It was also a Ted Turner's last public appearance, 1325 01:27:44,009 --> 01:27:47,387 and he was performing with Julian Lennon. 1326 01:27:48,972 --> 01:27:52,476 Obviously, I've seen The Stones a few times over the years. 1327 01:27:53,393 --> 01:27:57,355 But it was such pleasure, I mean, he and I clicked immediately. 1328 01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,233 A great deal of respect for each other. 1329 01:28:00,358 --> 01:28:05,614 And, uh... but you know, it was actually fun on stage. 1330 01:28:05,697 --> 01:28:10,452 One thing I found I learned about Chuck when we were on tour, is that 1331 01:28:10,535 --> 01:28:13,330 if you're in a hotel which has a piano in the bar, 1332 01:28:13,413 --> 01:28:16,958 if you get a few drinks inside him, he basically becomes Little Richard. 1333 01:28:17,042 --> 01:28:20,462 So, uh, other than mixing and editing, 1334 01:28:20,545 --> 01:28:23,423 what have we been doing? Living life to the fullest, I hope. 1335 01:28:23,507 --> 01:28:25,550 Yeah, just been lounging on the fob. 1336 01:28:25,634 --> 01:28:27,260 - Yeah. - Doing a bit of woodwork. 1337 01:28:27,344 --> 01:28:29,094 - Yeah. Yeah. - Yeah, I'll show you. 1338 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,143 This is this is, um... this is made out of a tree... 1339 01:28:36,102 --> 01:28:38,814 out of my woods that died. 1340 01:28:38,897 --> 01:28:39,815 If I can find it. 1341 01:28:43,735 --> 01:28:47,739 - Oh, wow. That is beautiful. - It's a cherry... a cherry wood bench. 1342 01:28:49,241 --> 01:28:51,368 - Not bad, is it? - No, that's beautiful, man. 1343 01:28:51,451 --> 01:28:52,701 That is really beautiful. 1344 01:28:59,626 --> 01:29:01,878 I think there's about 7,000 trees reported here, 1345 01:29:01,962 --> 01:29:04,256 when we planted them, they were about as... 1346 01:29:04,339 --> 01:29:07,050 thick as my little finger and about maybe 18 inches tall, 1347 01:29:07,133 --> 01:29:10,011 just little twigs stabbed into the ground. 1348 01:29:10,095 --> 01:29:12,472 And here, 20 years later... 1349 01:29:12,556 --> 01:29:16,101 some of them are sort of 25, 30 feet high, some trunks, 1350 01:29:16,184 --> 01:29:18,937 you know, 14 inches, 15 inches thick. 1351 01:29:20,105 --> 01:29:22,566 But it's amazing to see the way trees just... 1352 01:29:24,150 --> 01:29:26,862 take off after they've been in the ground three or four years, 1353 01:29:26,945 --> 01:29:30,095 they suddenly feel their strength and they really start growing. 1354 01:29:32,742 --> 01:29:36,288 When I was 16, 17, my folks took me to London, to, um... 1355 01:29:38,039 --> 01:29:41,543 to try and work out what I should do as a career. 1356 01:29:41,626 --> 01:29:44,462 And I saw a guy for about an hour and he, um... 1357 01:29:44,546 --> 01:29:49,009 At the end of an hour of me waffling and saying nothing very much, 1358 01:29:49,968 --> 01:29:54,347 He, uh, told me that he thought that what I should go into was forestry. 1359 01:29:54,472 --> 01:30:00,437 And here I am years and years later planting tree, seems nuts. 1360 01:30:15,410 --> 01:30:19,956 Sometimes you just know with someone that you're going to get on with that person. 1361 01:30:22,876 --> 01:30:28,298 And that he's going to share some attitudes and things and... 1362 01:30:28,381 --> 01:30:30,431 I mean, I already knew about his playing. 1363 01:30:34,054 --> 01:30:36,181 I don't like to be too, um... 1364 01:30:37,974 --> 01:30:40,977 prescriptive on how people want... are going to play things. 1365 01:30:41,061 --> 01:30:45,982 So, I want to get them to express themselves, to have their take on what 1366 01:30:46,066 --> 01:30:51,863 they do first in... particularly in the rehearsal sort of situation, and then see 1367 01:30:51,947 --> 01:30:54,824 what from that is going to really work live. 1368 01:31:04,834 --> 01:31:07,045 ♪ Hello ♪ 1369 01:31:07,128 --> 01:31:09,965 ♪ ls there anybody in there? ♪ 1370 01:31:11,424 --> 01:31:13,760 ♪ Just nod if you can hear me ♪ 1371 01:31:16,137 --> 01:31:19,099 ♪ ls there anyone at home? ♪ 1372 01:31:19,182 --> 01:31:22,435 The who you get to sing the other part in "Comfortably Numb" 1373 01:31:22,519 --> 01:31:24,688 is always a problem. In the past, 1374 01:31:24,771 --> 01:31:28,233 I've often had guests in to do one night when I can get, 1375 01:31:28,316 --> 01:31:30,527 um, interesting people, you know, David Bowie did 1376 01:31:30,610 --> 01:31:32,153 the part unto the Albert Hall. 1377 01:31:32,237 --> 01:31:34,864 ♪ Get you on your feet again ♪ 1378 01:31:36,366 --> 01:31:40,912 ♪ Relax, I need some information ♪ 1379 01:31:40,996 --> 01:31:43,623 Turned to me and he said, "Hey, man, you want to sing on this?" 1380 01:31:43,707 --> 01:31:48,086 And I thought, "Sing in unison or harmony or something, sure." 1381 01:31:48,169 --> 01:31:50,922 He said, "Okay. Well, you do the... you do the counterpart." 1382 01:31:51,006 --> 01:31:53,216 When Chuck rehearsed "Comfortably Numb," 1383 01:31:53,299 --> 01:31:57,053 in rehearsals, we were aware of his, like, his, um, 1384 01:31:57,137 --> 01:32:00,002 his playing. We were aware of his musicianship. 1385 01:32:00,044 --> 01:32:01,349 But then suddenly... 1386 01:32:01,433 --> 01:32:03,810 No clue about his vocal, when he started singing We were like. 1387 01:32:03,893 --> 01:32:05,061 - What? - I'm sorry, what? 1388 01:32:05,145 --> 01:32:06,229 - Right. - What? 1389 01:32:06,312 --> 01:32:08,106 It's, um... 1390 01:32:08,189 --> 01:32:10,734 a completely different type of version to 1391 01:32:10,817 --> 01:32:12,587 the way Roger did it originally on the record 1392 01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:14,279 and to the way other people have done it. 1393 01:32:14,362 --> 01:32:19,159 And he said, uh... "Let me give you a tip, curl your lip a little bit" 1394 01:32:19,242 --> 01:32:24,789 "when you sing your part," you know, meaning, snarl, snarl it out a little bit, 1395 01:32:24,873 --> 01:32:26,583 make it with attitude. 1396 01:32:27,459 --> 01:32:28,710 And that was good advice. 1397 01:32:28,793 --> 01:32:30,670 ♪ Just a little pinprick ♪ 1398 01:32:32,213 --> 01:32:37,052 ♪ They'll be no more, ah! ♪ 1399 01:32:37,135 --> 01:32:39,471 ♪ But you may feel a little sick ♪ 1400 01:32:40,889 --> 01:32:42,932 ♪ Can you stand up ♪ 1401 01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:48,438 ♪ I do believe it's working good ♪ 1402 01:32:48,521 --> 01:32:51,691 ♪ That'll keep you going through the show ♪ 1403 01:32:53,276 --> 01:32:55,320 ♪ Come on, it's time to go ♪ 1404 01:32:55,403 --> 01:32:57,447 I'd say he was... he's done it about 1405 01:32:57,530 --> 01:32:59,616 the best of anyone that I've had do it. 1406 01:33:01,409 --> 01:33:04,871 I would want to impress on somebody that you've got... 1407 01:33:04,954 --> 01:33:06,790 You've got the real thing there. 1408 01:33:06,873 --> 01:33:07,957 And... 1409 01:33:09,292 --> 01:33:10,251 something... 1410 01:33:11,252 --> 01:33:15,090 so special that you'd probably miss it 1411 01:33:15,173 --> 01:33:17,717 if you met him in passing. 1412 01:33:18,676 --> 01:33:20,386 You know, one of the top five guys doing 1413 01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:22,555 that sort of thing that he's been doing, 1414 01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:24,432 wearing all these different hats, 1415 01:33:24,516 --> 01:33:26,726 uh, in the history of the music, 1416 01:33:26,810 --> 01:33:28,812 which I guess you could say starts arguably 1417 01:33:28,895 --> 01:33:30,897 in the early mid '50s. 1418 01:33:30,980 --> 01:33:33,775 So, that's a long time. That's 60 something years. 1419 01:33:33,858 --> 01:33:37,028 And he's, uh, like I say, in the pantheon. 1420 01:33:40,698 --> 01:33:42,158 Chuck. 1421 01:33:42,242 --> 01:33:43,868 Oh, Southern buddy. 1422 01:33:43,952 --> 01:33:45,286 You done it. 1423 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:46,246 You're the best. 1424 01:33:47,288 --> 01:33:50,583 He's a great piano player and a great, you know, 1425 01:33:50,667 --> 01:33:53,211 collaborator and a really good friend. 1426 01:33:53,294 --> 01:33:55,588 So I feel I'm very proud to work with him. 1427 01:33:55,713 --> 01:33:58,632 And I don't know many other keyboard players that's going that Chuck's done, 1428 01:33:58,716 --> 01:34:01,136 that says a lot for Chuck to me. 1429 01:34:08,810 --> 01:34:10,061 I'm so proud of you. 1430 01:34:10,145 --> 01:34:12,689 Uh, honored to have worked with you. 1431 01:34:12,772 --> 01:34:16,943 Um, I love you, and I will see you at the next one. 1432 01:34:17,026 --> 01:34:18,987 It would be lovely to play with you again, man. 1433 01:34:19,070 --> 01:34:22,740 Whenever we get the opportunity and... and I missed you. 1434 01:34:22,824 --> 01:34:24,951 I've missed you, so... 1435 01:34:25,034 --> 01:34:28,746 I'm sending you lots of love and look forward to the next time. 1436 01:34:28,830 --> 01:34:33,293 Chuck is more rock and roll than trashing a hotel room will ever be because... 1437 01:34:34,460 --> 01:34:38,089 it comes from love. It comes from appreciation. 1438 01:34:38,173 --> 01:34:44,053 It comes from respect and it also comes from when it's time to play. 1439 01:34:44,137 --> 01:34:45,805 It's like, "Look out. I got this." 1440 01:34:45,889 --> 01:34:49,767 Um, he's a very special human being. He really is. 1441 01:35:00,236 --> 01:35:03,364 All right, Chuck! I'm giving you a run for your money. 1442 01:35:05,491 --> 01:35:07,663 Chuck Leavell, Georgia loves you, the world 1443 01:35:07,705 --> 01:35:09,662 loves you, because you're so authentic 1444 01:35:09,787 --> 01:35:11,581 a genuine Southern gentleman 1445 01:35:11,664 --> 01:35:14,292 who loves the land, loves its people, 1446 01:35:14,375 --> 01:35:17,545 and I have been honored to know you and be in your presence, 1447 01:35:17,629 --> 01:35:20,798 and you help me keep Georgia on my mind. 1448 01:35:23,927 --> 01:35:25,303 ♪ Georgia ♪ 1449 01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,892 ♪ Oh, Georgia ♪ 1450 01:35:33,603 --> 01:35:35,605 ♪ The whole day through ♪ 1451 01:35:39,484 --> 01:35:42,820 ♪ It's just an old sweet song ♪ 1452 01:35:42,904 --> 01:35:45,615 We have a great partnership, Rosie and I, you know, 1453 01:35:45,698 --> 01:35:47,951 we look after each other very much. 1454 01:35:48,034 --> 01:35:53,081 So 46 years and we're stronger than we've ever been. 1455 01:35:57,418 --> 01:35:58,795 ♪ Georgia ♪ 1456 01:36:00,588 --> 01:36:02,715 ♪ Mm, Georgia ♪ 1457 01:36:05,426 --> 01:36:08,680 ♪ It's just a song of you ♪ 1458 01:36:11,557 --> 01:36:15,270 ♪ Comes as sweet and clear ♪ 1459 01:36:17,855 --> 01:36:20,024 ♪ As moonlight through the pines ♪ 1460 01:36:28,449 --> 01:36:30,368 ♪ Other arms ♪ 1461 01:36:32,829 --> 01:36:34,872 ♪ Reach out to me ♪ 1462 01:36:36,124 --> 01:36:38,835 ♪ Other eyes ♪ 1463 01:36:38,918 --> 01:36:41,129 ♪ Smile tenderly ♪ 1464 01:36:45,591 --> 01:36:50,388 ♪ Still, in peaceful dreams, I see ♪ 1465 01:36:51,681 --> 01:36:56,352 ♪ I see the road leads back to you ♪ 1466 01:36:59,689 --> 01:37:01,149 ♪ Oh, Georgia ♪ 1467 01:37:05,445 --> 01:37:07,488 ♪ My sweet Georgia ♪ 1468 01:37:09,198 --> 01:37:12,785 ♪ No peace I find ♪ 1469 01:37:14,871 --> 01:37:19,292 ♪ It's just an old sweet song ♪ 1470 01:37:22,462 --> 01:37:25,423 ♪ Keeps Georgia on my mind ♪ 1471 01:38:31,614 --> 01:38:34,951 ♪ Yeah, other arms ♪ 1472 01:38:37,161 --> 01:38:39,330 ♪ Reach out to me sometime ♪ 1473 01:38:41,791 --> 01:38:47,213 ♪ Other eyes smile tenderly ♪ 1474 01:38:49,090 --> 01:38:54,429 ♪ Still in peaceful dreams you know, I see ♪ 1475 01:38:54,512 --> 01:38:56,180 ♪ Hey, I see the road! ♪ 1476 01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:59,559 ♪ It leads back to you ♪ 1477 01:39:01,477 --> 01:39:03,062 ♪ Hey ♪ 1478 01:39:03,146 --> 01:39:05,606 ♪ Hey, Georgia ♪ 1479 01:39:07,525 --> 01:39:10,528 ♪ Oh, my sweet, sweet Georgia ♪ 1480 01:39:10,611 --> 01:39:15,783 ♪ No peace I find ♪ 1481 01:39:19,203 --> 01:39:23,082 ♪ It's just an old sweet song ♪ 1482 01:39:28,754 --> 01:39:30,631 ♪ But it keeps Georgia ♪ 1483 01:39:37,763 --> 01:39:44,562 ♪ Keeps Georgia rolling rolling, rolling on my mind ♪ 1484 01:40:06,918 --> 01:40:08,294 The man is a gentleman. 1485 01:40:10,171 --> 01:40:11,506 The man's a real man. 1486 01:40:13,049 --> 01:40:14,994 You know, and I don't think I can say 1487 01:40:15,036 --> 01:40:17,345 anything better about any guy in the world. 1488 01:40:26,145 --> 01:40:27,230 You get me? 1489 01:40:59,804 --> 01:41:04,141 ♪ People think I'm crazy always trying to waste me ♪ 1490 01:41:04,225 --> 01:41:06,852 ♪ Make me burn the candle right down ♪ 1491 01:41:07,770 --> 01:41:11,857 ♪ Baby, I can't stay ♪ 1492 01:41:11,941 --> 01:41:15,820 ♪ I don't need jewels in my crown ♪ 1493 01:41:15,903 --> 01:41:20,157 ♪ 'Cause all you ladies you low-down gamblers ♪ 1494 01:41:20,241 --> 01:41:23,202 ♪ Cheating like I don't know how ♪ 1495 01:41:24,203 --> 01:41:27,540 ♪ Baby, I can't stay ♪ 1496 01:41:27,623 --> 01:41:31,836 ♪ Because there's fever in the funk house now ♪ 1497 01:41:31,919 --> 01:41:35,673 ♪ This low down bitching got my poor feet itching ♪ 1498 01:41:35,756 --> 01:41:39,218 ♪ Don't you know the deuce is still wild? ♪ 1499 01:41:40,303 --> 01:41:43,889 ♪ Baby, I can't stay ♪ 1500 01:41:43,973 --> 01:41:46,517 ♪ You got to roll me ♪ 1501 01:41:46,601 --> 01:41:51,939 ♪ Call me the tumbling dice ♪ 1502 01:41:52,940 --> 01:41:57,028 ♪ Always in a hurry never stop to worry ♪ 1503 01:41:57,111 --> 01:42:00,656 ♪ Don't see the time flashing by ♪ 1504 01:42:00,740 --> 01:42:04,076 ♪ Honey, I got no money ♪ 1505 01:42:04,201 --> 01:42:09,373 ♪ Hold on, I'm sixes, sevens and nines, nines, nines ♪ 1506 01:42:09,457 --> 01:42:12,585 ♪ Say now, baby I'm the lone crap shooter ♪ 1507 01:42:12,668 --> 01:42:15,921 ♪ Playing your fields every night ♪ 1508 01:42:17,006 --> 01:42:20,468 ♪ Baby, I can't stay ♪ 1509 01:42:20,551 --> 01:42:22,887 ♪ You got to roll me ♪ 1510 01:42:22,970 --> 01:42:25,514 ♪ Call me the tumbling ♪ 1511 01:42:25,598 --> 01:42:27,099 ♪ Roll, roll, roll me ♪ 1512 01:42:27,183 --> 01:42:33,064 ♪ Call me the tumbling dice ♪ 131076

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