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This morning, the
ACLU filed a federal lawsuit
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against the Department of
Justice and against the FBI,
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challenging the designation
of a musical fan base
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as a criminal gang.
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It is a quintessential
civil liberties case,
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challenging government
abuse and supporting
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the right of people
to express themselves
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without fear of
police persecution.
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Recognizing the
absurdity of the situation
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and that there are
civil liberties
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and constitutional
issues involved
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that extend far
beyond this issue.
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I'd like to introduce
the plaintiffs.
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Joseph Bruce and Joey Utsler,
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also known as the
Insane Clown Posse.
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♪ Do you like clowns ♪
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♪ Do you like bloody,
bloody, bloodshed ♪
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♪ Wicked clowns
come out to play ♪
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♪ Wicked clowns
come out to play ♪
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♪ Wicked clowns
come out to play ♪
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♪ Ha Ha ♪
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♪ PCP ♪
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♪ Meth and
anti-depression pills ♪
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♪ Shit but I wont stop ♪
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♪ Last time on the spot ♪
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♪ Choked a cop ♪
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♪ Stopped and had
a Faygo soda pop ♪
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♪ In the back of my trunk ♪
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♪ Chuck the chainsaw ♪
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♪ Usually chop wood,
but that ain't all ♪
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♪ It's a bit strange, all
up in your mid range ♪
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♪ Cut a hole in your
head til I hit brains ♪
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♪ Left a cop in a
pile while maybe ♪
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♪ It's the night of
the chainsaw baby ♪
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♪ Cut 'em up Chuck, somebody ♪
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♪ Cut 'em up Chuck, get bloody ♪
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♪ Cut 'em up Chuck, go nutty ♪
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♪ Cut 'em up Chuck, cut
'em up Chuck, cut 'em up ♪
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♪ You can't calm me down,
you can't calm me down ♪
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Clown motherfucking
love, Juggalos!
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I'm Violent J from
Insane Clown Posse.
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Joe Bruce, my real name.
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I'm Shaggy 2 Dope.
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AKA Joseph Utsler,
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my government name.
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And I am an entertainer
extraordinaire.
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I'm a rapper.
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A musician.
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Artist.
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Actor.
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Wrestler.
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Pro wrestler.
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Father of three, married.
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I'm a Bruce brother.
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I'm an honorary
Bruce brother, I think.
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- He's the third Bruce brother.
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It goes way back to
when we were children.
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Yeah.
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We're sitting
here with two big stars.
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Insane Clown Posse.
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Let's take a phone call.
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You guys
are fucking horrible.
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Let's have
a serious conversation.
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When are you guys gonna
fucking kill yourselves?
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We've made USA
Today's worst album
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of the year, like twice.
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We made GQ's worst
artists of all time.
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Page after page after page.
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This is the worst music
you've ever heard.
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What is this shit?
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What is this garbage?
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Just totally dissing.
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We used to just look
and look and look
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for one positive review.
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Couldn't find it.
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♪ Water, fire, air and dirt ♪
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♪ Fucking magnets,
how do they work ♪
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What the hell was that?
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Yeah,
even clowns think they suck.
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People hate what
they don't understand.
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And there's a lot to not
understand about ICP, you know?
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Just the face paint alone.
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Alternative music didn't
want nothing to do with us.
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Hip hop didn't want
nothing to do with it.
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Without a home, a home
began to form itself
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and began to dig its own
niche out in society.
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Explaining Juggalos
is such a hard thing.
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You probably maybe
come from a broken home
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and you dealing with
with depression.
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You know what I mean?
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Probably dealing with
depression like we do.
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Trouble, you know,
trouble in their life.
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Stuff like that, you know?
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I think that's why it's
such a good clique,
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such a good thing because we're
Juggalos ourself, you know?
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What does it mean
to be a Juggalo?
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Most people say family.
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You're just walking
around with your shirt
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or your charm or something.
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And you see someone
else and boom,
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you've just made a new friend.
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Like the family
thing is really real.
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We all have each
other's back, it's nuts.
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You're making it sound
like the Manson family, bro.
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Being yourself.
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Being who the fuck you are
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and not giving a fuck
what anyone thinks.
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If it hurts your
feelings, I'm sorry
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that your parents
raised a pussy.
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We exist because
other people judged us
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and kind of made us outcasts.
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We all band together under that.
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I've been a Juggalo since I
came out of my mom's vagina.
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♪ What is a Juggalo? ♪
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We
embrace the hate now
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because what are we
going to do, fight it?
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It just made us
cooler to the Juggalos, man.
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That's what's going on
in the outside world.
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Inside with the
Juggalos, it was a party.
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We were getting massive love.
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- Clown love, baby!
- Clown love! Clown love!
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Dude, it was off the hook.
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It was so fucking fresh.
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That's what
we're hearing every day.
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Meanwhile, we pick up a
paper that talks about
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who could listen
to this garbage.
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Which one do we believe?
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We just went with the fam.
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♪ What is a Juggalo ♪
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My husband has been
serving a life sentence
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since he was 19.
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So I got his mugshot.
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Hi.
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Hey.
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This is John.
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He's been a Juggalo since
he was nine years old.
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Oh he's on the
phone? Yeah.
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What up, man?
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What's up, man.
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Shit, just out
here baking our ass off.
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What's good with you, man?
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I love you guys.
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You guys have got me through
so many dark times in my life.
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You don't even know.
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Are you locked up?
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For life.
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Oh shit, for life?
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Yeah, there's
thousands of Juggalos
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in prison too,
bumping your shit.
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Well maybe you guys could
start up a Juggalo gang
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in there, man.
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And kick some ass.
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Or perhaps not.
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Baby.
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Want
us to sign the face?
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Yeah. They're signing
your face, baby.
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I'm gonna
do another tattoo.
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He's giving
you another tattoo
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on your forehead.
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That's crazy.
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We have this
beautiful relationship
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with these people
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and we fucking love
the Juggalos, man.
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They want our music as a
soundtrack to their life.
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So why not provide?
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Music
fans or gang members?
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The government says
they're dangerous.
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These
142 pages document cases of
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brutal murders, assaults
across the country.
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They all have one
word in common.
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Juggalo.
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A Juggalo is a follower
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of a rap group called
the Insane Clown Posse,
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known for its violent lyrics.
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There's about a million fans
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and a percentage may
be involved in crime.
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The FBI has classified
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Juggalos as a gang.
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Juggalos say they're a family.
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Family, family,
family, family!
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♪ And I'd walk home
feeling like a samurai ♪
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♪ I'd walk in the house
and see my mama cry ♪
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♪ I'd ask why, she
points to my drunk pops ♪
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♪ He tried to hit her
again, but that shit stops ♪
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♪ I kick him in his throat,
you hear his neck break ♪
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We both come from poor,
broken families, broken homes.
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Our real dad bailed
when I was two.
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We had to go through
his replacement,
which was even worse.
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The older I get, the more
I realize how fucked up
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my childhood was, but
I definitely think
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it helped made us
stronger people.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And I think it made us 10
billion times more hungry
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when we starting out.
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Not having nothing
when you grow up,
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that'll shape you for the
rest of your fucking life,
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whether you got money or not.
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Yes, throughout the
whole house, isn't it, hun?
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The nautical theme.
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My name is Linda and
I'm Violent J's mother,
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Joe Bruce.
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And I'm a Juggalette.
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I think I was probably
the first one.
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You were the first one, ma.
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I was 19 years old
when I had my first baby.
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That was Teresa. And then I
had Rob and then Joe's my baby,
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the caboose.
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We struggled.
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We were poor, but we
never went to bed hungry
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or anything like that.
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But there wasn't a lot of
money for entertainment.
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But as a mother, you always try.
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We were the
poorest in the neighborhood.
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We got the food
stamps and all that.
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But our imaginations were there.
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Big time imaginations,
you know what I'm saying?
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We had a club name.
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We called ourselves The Floobs.
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First thing we did was
make having nothing cool.
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It's okay to have
mismatched shoes.
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We had these rickety old bikes
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and kids would make fun of us.
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They were riding around with
Mongooses and Supergooses.
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We'd have fucked up bikes.
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They were pieced together
from like nine other bikes.
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And we made it cool.
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We were like, that's
the Floobmobile.
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We turned it around
and we really did feel
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like we were the shit.
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Cause we were part
of the Floobs.
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We
didn't feel left out
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cause we were with each other.
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Like them fucking
trench coat mafia kids
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from the fucking
Columbine or whatever.
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They're all crying about
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they didn't have no
friends, whatever.
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There was two of
those motherfuckers,
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you know what I'm saying?
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They have friends, they
had each other, you know?
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They have a lot
of self-worth together.
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Even maybe separately they
don't, but together they do.
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Joe had a fire, is the
only thing I can call it.
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When he wanted to do something,
you couldn't deny it.
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He just had to, he had to do it.
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We always been the type
of kids that do whatever
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we were into, you
know, we have to do it.
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- And then he started going
really interested in wrestling.
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I remember driving him
to Joe Louis Arena.
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I didn't have the money.
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And I knew that if I didn't
take him, he would've walked.
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I must've been 15 years
old, maybe 14 years old.
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Out back is where
we all would get our
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autographs from all the
wrestlers coming out.
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And all of a sudden, I see
these two guys wrestling,
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these two young kids.
256
00:11:05,358 --> 00:11:07,325
And I'm like, holy shit, man.
257
00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,702
They do it better
than the guys inside.
258
00:11:10,737 --> 00:11:12,099
I remember
coming home from work and
259
00:11:12,134 --> 00:11:14,772
there'd be footprints
on my ceiling.
260
00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:18,006
And I was trying to figure
out how that happened.
261
00:11:18,041 --> 00:11:22,076
They would super suplex each
other in the living room.
262
00:11:22,111 --> 00:11:24,210
He'd be flipping them and
the guy would actually
263
00:11:24,245 --> 00:11:25,981
walk on the ceiling.
264
00:11:27,314 --> 00:11:29,380
They were in junior
high school and
265
00:11:29,415 --> 00:11:31,481
they started their
own wrestling league,
266
00:11:31,516 --> 00:11:34,385
National Allstar Wrestling.
267
00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:36,794
We had a ring
built in his mom's backyard.
268
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Built out of railroad logs.
269
00:11:38,523 --> 00:11:40,259
We'd wait till it would rain
270
00:11:40,294 --> 00:11:41,931
and we'd be out
there in the rain
271
00:11:41,966 --> 00:11:43,361
pounding it in the ground
272
00:11:43,396 --> 00:11:44,494
because the ground
would be softer.
273
00:11:44,529 --> 00:11:46,133
And then we use garden hose
274
00:11:46,168 --> 00:11:48,003
to wrap around the
railroad rails.
275
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And we'd sell
it to the fullest.
276
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To the kids in the neighborhood.
277
00:11:51,976 --> 00:11:54,141
We ran it like a real
wrestling organization.
278
00:11:54,176 --> 00:11:55,505
We would advertise.
279
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Flyer the neighborhood.
280
00:11:57,311 --> 00:11:58,409
Flyer through the
neighborhood, house to house.
281
00:11:58,444 --> 00:12:00,785
Come see N.A.W. kids wrestling.
282
00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:03,084
We weren't waiting till
we grew up to wrestle.
283
00:12:03,119 --> 00:12:04,855
We were like, we're
bringing wrestling to us.
284
00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:06,516
I got to make the hot dogs.
285
00:12:06,551 --> 00:12:09,123
I had the hot dogs
going and chips.
286
00:12:09,158 --> 00:12:10,993
It had free lunch.
287
00:12:11,028 --> 00:12:13,259
When you came, you got a
hot dog and a bag of chips.
288
00:12:13,294 --> 00:12:16,328
But they did it all themselves.
289
00:12:16,363 --> 00:12:19,034
I don't know where a lot
of that talent came from,
290
00:12:19,069 --> 00:12:22,840
but there was something
going on all the time.
291
00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:25,337
When they started going to high
school, it was really hard.
292
00:12:25,372 --> 00:12:28,175
Cause all of a sudden you
don't know where they are
293
00:12:28,210 --> 00:12:30,980
or who their friends are
or what they're doing.
294
00:12:31,015 --> 00:12:32,146
♪ You ask do we gangbang ♪
295
00:12:32,181 --> 00:12:33,851
♪ Do we bang in a gang, mang ♪
296
00:12:33,886 --> 00:12:35,215
♪ Do we bang bang ♪
297
00:12:35,250 --> 00:12:36,414
♪ I'm a gang banger, man ♪
298
00:12:36,449 --> 00:12:37,888
♪ I bang in a gang, mang ♪
299
00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:39,285
♪ You can suck my wang, mang ♪
300
00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,792
♪ Richie-boy, bitchy-boy ♪
301
00:12:40,827 --> 00:12:42,453
♪ It's a Southwest thing ♪
302
00:12:42,488 --> 00:12:44,554
That's the first
titty bar I ever went to
303
00:12:44,589 --> 00:12:45,929
when I was 15.
304
00:12:45,964 --> 00:12:46,897
Oh, that's the Atlantis?
305
00:12:46,932 --> 00:12:48,327
No, no.
306
00:12:48,362 --> 00:12:49,460
Atlantis I went
to when I was 14.
307
00:12:49,495 --> 00:12:51,231
I put on a fake mustache.
308
00:12:53,037 --> 00:12:54,036
I could show
you the greatest place
309
00:12:54,071 --> 00:12:56,071
to hide a dead body too.
310
00:12:57,877 --> 00:13:00,977
- The Floobs ended up being
eventually the Inner City Posse,
311
00:13:01,012 --> 00:13:02,847
which was their own gang.
312
00:13:02,882 --> 00:13:04,310
We were gonna
be some bad asses.
313
00:13:04,345 --> 00:13:06,180
We were forming our own thing.
314
00:13:06,215 --> 00:13:08,886
Even though, the fact of the
matter is, we didn't know shit.
315
00:13:08,921 --> 00:13:10,316
We were like gang-wannabe.
316
00:13:10,351 --> 00:13:11,449
We started tagging
317
00:13:11,484 --> 00:13:14,122
ICP all over the neighborhood.
318
00:13:14,157 --> 00:13:16,421
With rhinestone ICP hats on.
319
00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:19,897
We were crazy for doing
what we were doing
320
00:13:19,932 --> 00:13:22,559
because these were
real gangs here.
321
00:13:22,594 --> 00:13:25,001
And we learned how to
get our ass kicked too.
322
00:13:25,036 --> 00:13:27,267
Yeah I learned how
to take a good beating.
323
00:13:27,302 --> 00:13:29,940
So we were walking
past these gang members
324
00:13:29,975 --> 00:13:31,469
sitting on a porch
325
00:13:31,504 --> 00:13:35,473
and they were just
giving us this mean eye.
326
00:13:35,508 --> 00:13:37,475
So, boom, we just
march on through, man.
327
00:13:37,510 --> 00:13:39,015
Like we're the Warriors.
328
00:13:39,050 --> 00:13:40,346
Here we go, man.
329
00:13:40,381 --> 00:13:43,184
And we give them
these mean mugs.
330
00:13:43,219 --> 00:13:47,419
There must've been, I don't
know, 20 of them at the time.
331
00:13:47,454 --> 00:13:51,159
And I was like, fuck
man, here we go.
332
00:13:51,194 --> 00:13:53,590
Somebody says something.
333
00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:55,097
I say, fuck you.
334
00:13:56,298 --> 00:13:58,166
And fuck all you guys.
335
00:13:59,532 --> 00:14:01,202
And we.
336
00:14:01,237 --> 00:14:03,402
All of a sudden,
man, the gang squad.
337
00:14:03,437 --> 00:14:08,440
God couldn't have timed it
better for us to save our lives.
338
00:14:09,377 --> 00:14:10,541
The gang squad pulls up
339
00:14:10,576 --> 00:14:12,510
and Joe and I start walking.
340
00:14:12,545 --> 00:14:14,347
We start walking
341
00:14:14,382 --> 00:14:16,954
and these guys are booking
342
00:14:16,989 --> 00:14:19,154
all around me, surrounded them.
343
00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:22,157
And we're just
like, ah, ha ha ha.
344
00:14:22,192 --> 00:14:23,620
So they get them.
345
00:14:23,655 --> 00:14:24,654
We're at the corner.
346
00:14:24,689 --> 00:14:25,655
Fuck, look at us.
347
00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:26,524
You fucking asshole.
348
00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:28,328
And fuck you.
349
00:14:28,363 --> 00:14:31,133
We were a fucking
miniature gang.
350
00:14:31,168 --> 00:14:33,564
And so when this FBI
gang thing happened
351
00:14:33,599 --> 00:14:36,270
25 years later, we
thought it was funny.
352
00:14:36,305 --> 00:14:37,337
We laughed. We were like,
353
00:14:37,372 --> 00:14:38,635
dang we're gang-bangers.
354
00:14:38,670 --> 00:14:39,977
Oh yeah, yeah, haha.
355
00:14:40,012 --> 00:14:40,637
Officially.
356
00:14:40,672 --> 00:14:41,979
Dopeness.
357
00:14:42,014 --> 00:14:43,376
They're saying Juggalos are
358
00:14:43,411 --> 00:14:45,345
one of the 10 most
notorious real gangs.
359
00:14:45,380 --> 00:14:47,545
So look at that
company right there.
360
00:14:47,580 --> 00:14:52,253
Bloods, Crips and MS-13 is
like, yeah, I'm in a gang.
361
00:14:54,191 --> 00:14:55,553
♪ Straight outta Compton ♪
362
00:14:55,588 --> 00:14:57,555
♪ Here's a crazy
brother named Ice Cube ♪
363
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:05,464
Here
they are, man.
364
00:15:05,499 --> 00:15:07,466
Greatest of all time,
the Beatles of rap.
365
00:15:07,501 --> 00:15:09,336
The stuff that I was like,
366
00:15:09,371 --> 00:15:11,503
I can't believe what they're
saying. Is that real, you know?
367
00:15:11,538 --> 00:15:13,076
That's the shit I love man.
368
00:15:13,111 --> 00:15:15,375
The stuff that scared me.
369
00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:18,048
When I was a kid, I had
that poster in my bedroom.
370
00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:19,181
Vanessa Williams.
371
00:15:19,216 --> 00:15:20,985
Look at at how fine she is, bro.
372
00:15:21,020 --> 00:15:24,252
Fifteen years old,
this was on my wall.
373
00:15:24,287 --> 00:15:26,287
And I don't know how many
times I nutted to it.
374
00:15:26,322 --> 00:15:27,618
She ain't even naked.
375
00:15:27,653 --> 00:15:29,653
My mom was a hippie.
376
00:15:29,688 --> 00:15:31,325
So of course she
had the White Album,
377
00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,097
that creepy-ass Queen record.
378
00:15:34,132 --> 00:15:37,463
Everything from that,
the Blues Brothers.
379
00:15:39,038 --> 00:15:41,698
There was always
music in my house.
380
00:15:41,733 --> 00:15:43,601
Third, fourth grade or whatever.
381
00:15:43,636 --> 00:15:46,076
That's when rap started
catching on a little bit.
382
00:15:46,111 --> 00:15:49,574
Learned how to start
scratching, deejaying.
383
00:15:51,446 --> 00:15:53,017
Herbie Hancock, he was the
first one to commercially
384
00:15:53,052 --> 00:15:55,217
put a scratch on record.
385
00:15:55,252 --> 00:15:56,350
And that was actually
the first scratch
386
00:15:56,385 --> 00:15:57,714
I ever learned how to do.
387
00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:59,617
Endless
Michael Jackson.
388
00:15:59,652 --> 00:16:03,258
I can't even find a bootleg,
a piece of video footage
389
00:16:03,293 --> 00:16:07,757
or a song of Michael Jackson's
that I don't already know.
390
00:16:07,792 --> 00:16:09,693
♪ Went R&B top ten hit ♪
391
00:16:09,728 --> 00:16:12,597
♪ And we had T-Pain singing
all of our own shit ♪
392
00:16:12,632 --> 00:16:14,698
♪ Fuck that, though,
yo, I'm a Juggalo ♪
393
00:16:14,733 --> 00:16:17,371
♪ I'm a Jugga-lugga-lo
fo' sho' ♪
394
00:16:17,406 --> 00:16:19,769
Michael Jackson
is without a doubt
395
00:16:19,804 --> 00:16:22,277
the biggest influence.
396
00:16:22,312 --> 00:16:24,180
You know you really
gotta dig somebody
397
00:16:24,215 --> 00:16:26,281
to get a tattoo of them,
you know what I'm saying?
398
00:16:26,316 --> 00:16:28,151
Oh!
399
00:16:28,186 --> 00:16:31,121
You take Michael
Jackson, mix him with NWA
400
00:16:31,156 --> 00:16:33,552
and throw some
Pearl Jam in there.
401
00:16:39,164 --> 00:16:41,263
And somehow out of
that weird concoction
402
00:16:41,298 --> 00:16:43,727
is the Insane Clown Posse.
403
00:16:43,762 --> 00:16:47,302
I mean, can't you
tell, listening to ICP?
404
00:16:48,569 --> 00:16:50,173
We're huge Michael Jackson fans.
405
00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:51,603
Look at this horrible
picture they used.
406
00:16:51,638 --> 00:16:55,508
He looks like the
fuckin' Toxic Avenger.
407
00:16:55,543 --> 00:16:57,411
♪ Drop the motherfuckers
all the way to Delray ♪
408
00:16:57,446 --> 00:16:59,380
When we started
rapping, when we were kids,
409
00:16:59,415 --> 00:17:02,086
this was gang ridden territory.
410
00:17:03,683 --> 00:17:05,815
That's what we'd rap about.
411
00:17:05,850 --> 00:17:07,553
And all of our friends
were like, yeah,
412
00:17:07,588 --> 00:17:08,686
you know what I mean?
413
00:17:08,721 --> 00:17:11,326
Make more shit about Southwest.
414
00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:15,264
I was working at a gas station.
415
00:17:15,299 --> 00:17:17,167
He was working at
a Coney island.
416
00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:19,598
Every single fuckin' dime
went right into the pot.
417
00:17:19,633 --> 00:17:21,798
My girlfriend's paycheck
went right into the pot.
418
00:17:21,833 --> 00:17:24,405
That was plenty
to get us started.
419
00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,835
We recorded our first EP.
420
00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:27,177
And we were gangsters.
421
00:17:27,212 --> 00:17:28,805
We were doing the gangster rap.
422
00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,708
♪ Violent J servin'
ghetto hard street shit ♪
423
00:17:30,743 --> 00:17:32,413
♪ You know it's potent when
the funky-ass beat hit ♪
424
00:17:32,448 --> 00:17:34,283
♪ Rolling the dice and
we's hittin' point ♪
425
00:17:34,318 --> 00:17:35,449
♪ ICP! ♪
426
00:17:35,484 --> 00:17:37,121
♪ Out of Southwest Detroit ♪
427
00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:38,551
♪ Running with a gang
of twenty street hoods ♪
428
00:17:38,586 --> 00:17:40,190
We had
our EP, Dog Beats,
429
00:17:40,225 --> 00:17:42,126
in every record
store, everywhere.
430
00:17:42,161 --> 00:17:44,392
We were given
a mission from God.
431
00:17:44,427 --> 00:17:45,789
- They're not going to catch us,
432
00:17:45,824 --> 00:17:47,725
we're on a mission from God.
433
00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,133
Went
to every record store
434
00:17:49,168 --> 00:17:50,860
we could find in the phone book.
435
00:17:50,895 --> 00:17:52,565
We used to go way out in the
middle of nowhere and steal
436
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,732
the phone books
from the Denny's.
437
00:17:54,767 --> 00:17:56,668
Just so you
can look up record stores.
438
00:17:56,703 --> 00:17:58,439
Lot of people would put
them in their neighborhood
439
00:17:58,474 --> 00:17:59,770
and that was it.
440
00:17:59,805 --> 00:18:02,113
These aspiring
rappers, they sucked.
441
00:18:02,148 --> 00:18:04,676
They had no heart,
man, no fuckin' drive.
442
00:18:04,711 --> 00:18:07,217
♪ Inner City Posse's
got the Dog Beats ♪
443
00:18:07,252 --> 00:18:09,615
♪ ICP we got the Dog Beats ♪
444
00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:11,353
With Dog
Beats, everywhere the
445
00:18:11,388 --> 00:18:14,422
car could drive, we
had it on consignment.
446
00:18:14,457 --> 00:18:16,688
So many other local bands
in Detroit at the time
447
00:18:16,723 --> 00:18:18,195
would lie to us.
448
00:18:19,792 --> 00:18:20,890
They would say, "How
many have you guys sold?"
449
00:18:20,925 --> 00:18:22,826
And we'd say, oh man, "2,800".
450
00:18:22,861 --> 00:18:26,698
And they would say, "Oh, you
guys got a ways to go, man.
451
00:18:26,733 --> 00:18:28,799
We're at like 8,000."
452
00:18:28,834 --> 00:18:29,800
And then we
would be like, how?
453
00:18:29,835 --> 00:18:31,703
How?
454
00:18:31,738 --> 00:18:33,276
How are they doing it,
you know? They were lying.
455
00:18:33,311 --> 00:18:35,146
But come to know
later they were lying,
456
00:18:35,181 --> 00:18:36,708
but we would all of a
sudden have to meet 8,000.
457
00:18:36,743 --> 00:18:37,841
So we would just go home and...
458
00:18:37,876 --> 00:18:39,183
Must work harder.
459
00:18:39,218 --> 00:18:40,184
Must work harder.
460
00:18:40,219 --> 00:18:41,614
All work.
461
00:18:41,649 --> 00:18:43,253
No
time for pleasure.
462
00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:44,650
No playing, no
time for pleasure.
463
00:18:44,685 --> 00:18:46,817
♪ Bow wow wow yippy
yo yippy yay ♪
464
00:18:46,852 --> 00:18:48,390
Everywhere, flyers.
465
00:18:48,425 --> 00:18:49,853
24 hours at Kinko's
all the time.
466
00:18:49,888 --> 00:18:51,855
Our Kinko's hustle was
pretty immaculate, man.
467
00:18:51,890 --> 00:18:54,858
They had these little blue
keys and it was a copy counter.
468
00:18:54,893 --> 00:18:56,695
They had a resetter
right by the counter.
469
00:18:56,730 --> 00:18:58,334
So we're like, yo we're
fucking stealing one of those.
470
00:18:58,369 --> 00:19:00,501
Put like a 105 on the key,
471
00:19:00,536 --> 00:19:02,635
but we really were
off like 2,000.
472
00:19:02,670 --> 00:19:04,604
It was never hot chicks
up in there, but you know,
473
00:19:04,639 --> 00:19:06,771
somebody would be banging a
broad, you know what I'm saying?
474
00:19:06,806 --> 00:19:08,575
To get free color
copies in the back.
475
00:19:08,610 --> 00:19:10,478
Kinkos.
476
00:19:10,513 --> 00:19:14,284
Your branch shop is 24 hours
a day, seven days a week.
477
00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,550
I remember
one particular evening
478
00:19:16,585 --> 00:19:18,948
before they went on stage.
479
00:19:18,983 --> 00:19:22,655
Joe came along with some
clown wigs from Halloween.
480
00:19:22,690 --> 00:19:25,262
I was like, this
is not gonna work.
481
00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:27,726
My boys are rapping
about breaking into cars,
482
00:19:27,761 --> 00:19:30,498
beating up guys, stealing,
483
00:19:30,533 --> 00:19:32,269
fucking chicks.
484
00:19:32,304 --> 00:19:33,930
And then here you come out with
485
00:19:33,965 --> 00:19:36,900
a clown wig, you know, on stage.
486
00:19:36,935 --> 00:19:40,211
And I remember the reaction of
the other artists backstage.
487
00:19:40,246 --> 00:19:43,511
They're like, "The fuck
are these guys doing?"
488
00:19:43,546 --> 00:19:46,217
It's fun to paint your
face and hide behind that.
489
00:19:46,252 --> 00:19:47,878
I can fuck up now, I'm a clown.
490
00:19:47,913 --> 00:19:49,715
You already expect me
to do something stupid.
491
00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:51,321
Cause I had clown paint on.
492
00:19:51,356 --> 00:19:55,391
There's something
refreshing about that.
493
00:19:58,825 --> 00:20:00,957
And then the word
got around about these clowns.
494
00:20:00,992 --> 00:20:02,662
These clowns, man,
with the wigs.
495
00:20:02,697 --> 00:20:04,796
These guys were stealing shows.
496
00:20:04,831 --> 00:20:07,568
They were coming in,
doing the fucking deal
497
00:20:07,603 --> 00:20:09,240
and then leaving.
498
00:20:09,275 --> 00:20:10,472
And everybody was
leaving with them.
499
00:20:10,507 --> 00:20:12,441
♪ Hey, Faygo, say, Faygo, ♪
500
00:20:12,476 --> 00:20:15,576
♪ What a way to go, Faygo ♪
501
00:20:15,611 --> 00:20:17,875
♪ That precious
sauce, Juggalo Juice ♪
502
00:20:17,910 --> 00:20:20,746
♪ Crack that fat boy,
let it go loose ♪
503
00:20:20,781 --> 00:20:22,550
Run-DMC had Adidas
504
00:20:22,585 --> 00:20:25,388
and the Beastie Boys had
White Castle hamburgers.
505
00:20:25,423 --> 00:20:27,885
- Let me get 800 cheeseburgers.
506
00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:31,526
So we had Faygo.
507
00:20:31,561 --> 00:20:33,594
Lot of shit was just
natural shit that happened.
508
00:20:33,629 --> 00:20:34,595
You know what I'm saying?
509
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:36,399
We had Faygo onstage.
510
00:20:36,434 --> 00:20:37,796
Got excited, started
spraying it around and shit.
511
00:20:37,831 --> 00:20:39,699
Kids fuckin' loved
that they were there.
512
00:20:39,734 --> 00:20:42,031
We love fuckin' doing it. We
just did it more and more.
513
00:20:42,066 --> 00:20:43,637
That's who we were.
514
00:20:43,672 --> 00:20:46,409
We always had a two
liter, you know.
515
00:20:47,676 --> 00:20:49,544
What the fuck, man?
516
00:20:49,579 --> 00:20:52,547
We used to pass fuckin' two
liters like they were 40s.
517
00:20:52,582 --> 00:20:53,911
Straight up.
518
00:20:53,946 --> 00:20:56,045
And now I remember
this clearly.
519
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,454
I remember Joe saying
520
00:20:58,489 --> 00:20:59,950
Insane Clown Posse.
521
00:21:02,427 --> 00:21:04,823
The reaction from our crew was
522
00:21:09,764 --> 00:21:11,368
Do you think?
523
00:21:11,403 --> 00:21:13,062
♪ Gotta go, gotta get
before I get the wrap ♪
524
00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:15,537
♪ Gotta chopped off head
chilling in my lap ♪
525
00:21:15,572 --> 00:21:17,407
♪ Mr. Shrink, Mr.
Shrink, I'm sick ♪
526
00:21:17,442 --> 00:21:19,805
♪ Lunatick-tick-tock,
it don't quit ♪
527
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,810
We're watching the
crowds and there's like 75.
528
00:21:26,616 --> 00:21:27,582
Then we're coming around
again and there's like 250.
529
00:21:27,617 --> 00:21:28,583
We made fuckin' money.
530
00:21:28,618 --> 00:21:29,584
Here's your money.
531
00:21:29,619 --> 00:21:31,014
You got something.
532
00:21:31,049 --> 00:21:32,455
I think it was 25
bucks or something,
533
00:21:32,490 --> 00:21:34,754
but it was 25 bucks, dammit.
534
00:21:36,362 --> 00:21:38,087
Who wants to go get a
fuckin' real job now?
535
00:21:38,122 --> 00:21:39,561
- We thought we were rich, man.
536
00:21:39,596 --> 00:21:41,024
- We were fuckin' getting paid.
537
00:21:41,059 --> 00:21:43,730
We were driving new cars
538
00:21:43,765 --> 00:21:45,864
because, well we
drove one new car
539
00:21:45,899 --> 00:21:49,406
and that was for times we
needed to look impressive.
540
00:21:49,441 --> 00:21:51,001
We had a Suzuki Sidekick
541
00:21:51,036 --> 00:21:53,575
that way when we pulled
up to the in stores,
542
00:21:53,610 --> 00:21:55,610
you know, we were fresh.
543
00:21:57,416 --> 00:22:00,109
This right here
behind us is St. Andrews Hall.
544
00:22:00,144 --> 00:22:02,584
Hey, who's playing here tonight?
545
00:22:02,619 --> 00:22:03,453
Who?
546
00:22:04,918 --> 00:22:06,786
Lights or something.
547
00:22:06,821 --> 00:22:07,655
You know what I'm saying?
548
00:22:07,690 --> 00:22:08,656
Fudge?
549
00:22:08,691 --> 00:22:09,789
Did they say Fudge?
550
00:22:09,824 --> 00:22:11,560
- The history in this building.
551
00:22:11,595 --> 00:22:13,661
Nirvana, Pearl Jam, INXS.
552
00:22:14,664 --> 00:22:15,696
ICP.
553
00:22:15,731 --> 00:22:16,598
ICP.
554
00:22:17,964 --> 00:22:19,667
♪ I'm running with a
Southwest street gang ♪
555
00:22:19,702 --> 00:22:21,669
♪ And I never let my
Southwest meat hang ♪
556
00:22:21,704 --> 00:22:23,737
♪ 'Cause you know
what ICP's all about ♪
557
00:22:23,772 --> 00:22:24,903
♪ Take a brick off the street ♪
558
00:22:24,938 --> 00:22:26,069
♪ And bust you in the mouth ♪
559
00:22:26,104 --> 00:22:27,972
♪ Find the girl's daddy's rich ♪
560
00:22:28,007 --> 00:22:30,106
♪ And his sweet little
angel's my sewer freak bitch ♪
561
00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:32,647
It was just a real
thrill the first time I saw it,
562
00:22:32,682 --> 00:22:35,551
when I went to the first
concert and I saw the Juggalos
563
00:22:35,586 --> 00:22:38,081
in line going
around the building.
564
00:22:38,116 --> 00:22:40,523
To me, I just
couldn't believe it.
565
00:22:40,558 --> 00:22:44,054
I couldn't say, "get
a real job" anymore.
566
00:22:44,089 --> 00:22:46,892
I wanted them to have the
Bruce Brothers Hobby Shop.
567
00:22:46,927 --> 00:22:48,795
I keep asking, "is
that going to happen?"
568
00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:52,436
And they said, "Well, maybe
someday it might happen."
569
00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:53,767
We had this wonderful
thing going on.
570
00:22:53,802 --> 00:22:55,098
We're making money at it.
571
00:22:55,133 --> 00:22:56,440
We're making a living.
572
00:22:56,475 --> 00:22:57,771
We're able to raise our kids.
573
00:22:57,806 --> 00:22:59,135
As far as albums we've sold,
574
00:22:59,170 --> 00:23:00,741
if you combine them all,
575
00:23:00,776 --> 00:23:03,007
I think it's something
around 10 million.
576
00:23:03,042 --> 00:23:06,076
It might be as
much as 14 million.
577
00:23:06,111 --> 00:23:07,979
Thirty years
later, we're still working.
578
00:23:08,014 --> 00:23:09,519
Just like we always have.
579
00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:11,180
We still put out
records, we still tour.
580
00:23:11,215 --> 00:23:12,753
We still move
merchandise all over the world.
581
00:23:12,788 --> 00:23:14,425
You can't download a t-shirt.
582
00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:17,021
You can't download
a pair of thongs.
583
00:23:23,964 --> 00:23:25,700
It doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure out
584
00:23:25,735 --> 00:23:27,603
why we're still in business
585
00:23:27,638 --> 00:23:30,001
and why this act became real.
586
00:23:30,036 --> 00:23:35,072
Because it's destiny,
man, it's our destiny.
587
00:23:37,681 --> 00:23:39,582
Psychopathic records presents
588
00:23:39,617 --> 00:23:43,685
the infamous, world famous
Gathering of the Juggalos.
589
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,820
And this year's four day
long outdoor music festival
590
00:23:46,855 --> 00:23:50,824
of freshness, flavor and
motherfucking freedom.
591
00:23:50,859 --> 00:23:52,463
Fuck work.
592
00:23:52,498 --> 00:23:53,596
Tell them your Juggalo
homies said they can
593
00:23:53,631 --> 00:23:56,060
eat a dick up till they hiccup.
594
00:24:20,185 --> 00:24:24,891
The Gathering is a
family reunion for Juggalos.
595
00:24:24,926 --> 00:24:27,190
A weekend of pure bliss, fun
596
00:24:28,996 --> 00:24:30,666
and nonstop flavor.
597
00:24:35,805 --> 00:24:36,903
Where did you get that?
598
00:24:36,938 --> 00:24:38,036
Get what?
599
00:24:38,071 --> 00:24:39,642
Get dick in your mouth!
600
00:24:43,615 --> 00:24:45,648
The reason why The
Gathering is so important
601
00:24:45,683 --> 00:24:48,882
is because that is the
one week out of the year
602
00:24:48,917 --> 00:24:51,885
where a Juggalo, who
is probably ostracized
603
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,524
in his or her community,
604
00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:56,890
can unite with people
who are just like them.
605
00:24:56,925 --> 00:25:00,157
We're here this weekend
to fucking rage and party
606
00:25:00,192 --> 00:25:02,929
and then clean up
after ourselves.
607
00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:11,300
It draws between five
and 10,000 people every year.
608
00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:13,610
Juggalos that come
to the gathering,
609
00:25:13,645 --> 00:25:17,042
they're the most diehard
Juggalos that there are.
610
00:25:17,077 --> 00:25:19,715
It took me 36
hours to get here.
611
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:21,882
- Traveling for about 55 hours.
612
00:25:21,917 --> 00:25:24,016
Dude, I quit both
my jobs to be here.
613
00:25:24,051 --> 00:25:25,688
I'm out on bond right now.
614
00:25:25,723 --> 00:25:27,690
I'm not even supposed
to be here, real talk.
615
00:25:27,725 --> 00:25:30,187
I think if I died, my soul
would've made the journey.
616
00:25:30,222 --> 00:25:32,123
I'd still be here.
617
00:25:32,158 --> 00:25:33,256
You
guys go to The Gathering?
618
00:25:34,292 --> 00:25:35,425
Ah hell no, man.
619
00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:37,029
I heard them Juggalos are
like gang members and shit.
620
00:25:37,064 --> 00:25:38,800
They crazy!
621
00:25:38,835 --> 00:25:41,099
Yeah we don't
associate with that shit.
622
00:25:41,134 --> 00:25:42,969
These guys will
always be outcasts.
623
00:25:43,004 --> 00:25:45,136
Juggalos will never be cool,
624
00:25:45,171 --> 00:25:47,578
but that's the way
we like it though.
625
00:25:47,613 --> 00:25:49,074
Hey brother, you okay?
626
00:25:49,109 --> 00:25:50,306
Yeah.
627
00:25:51,617 --> 00:25:52,242
It was a woman.
628
00:25:52,277 --> 00:25:53,144
My bad.
629
00:25:54,785 --> 00:25:56,587
A lot of these women are
630
00:25:56,622 --> 00:25:58,820
plus size, shall we say?
631
00:25:58,855 --> 00:26:01,185
But they're walking around
in bikinis or topless.
632
00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:03,627
And I love that because
it is such an affront
633
00:26:03,662 --> 00:26:07,092
to the bullshit beauty standards
that we have in society.
634
00:26:07,127 --> 00:26:08,929
If they were on a
normal beach somewhere,
635
00:26:08,964 --> 00:26:10,667
everybody would be giving
them shit for that.
636
00:26:10,702 --> 00:26:12,702
Here, no one cares.
637
00:26:12,737 --> 00:26:14,165
Lots of
body pride here.
638
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,035
I have seen some women
who are so super proud
639
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:18,202
of their bodies and
that is very inspiring.
640
00:26:18,237 --> 00:26:20,204
It doesn't
matter how you look.
641
00:26:20,239 --> 00:26:22,305
It doesn't matter how
much money you make.
642
00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:24,978
It doesn't matter what part
of the country you come from.
643
00:26:25,013 --> 00:26:25,979
You come here,
644
00:26:26,014 --> 00:26:28,718
you're just one of us.
645
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,654
It's just like in that old
movie, Freaks, you know.
646
00:26:30,689 --> 00:26:33,822
One of us, one of us,
gooble, gobble, one of us.
647
00:26:33,857 --> 00:26:35,956
We accept her, we accept her.
648
00:26:35,991 --> 00:26:37,287
♪ One of us ♪
649
00:26:37,322 --> 00:26:40,290
♪ We accept her, one of us ♪
650
00:26:40,325 --> 00:26:42,633
♪ We accept her, one of us ♪
651
00:26:42,668 --> 00:26:44,833
♪ Gooble, gobble,
gooble, gobble ♪
652
00:26:44,868 --> 00:26:48,298
♪ One of us, one of us ♪
653
00:26:48,333 --> 00:26:49,970
I think it's important
that people understand
654
00:26:50,005 --> 00:26:52,038
that Juggalos are really
the last real subculture
655
00:26:52,073 --> 00:26:53,336
left in America.
656
00:26:55,241 --> 00:26:58,847
Because when you think about
all of the classic subcultures,
657
00:26:58,882 --> 00:27:01,916
you think of punk, you
think of mods and rockers.
658
00:27:01,951 --> 00:27:03,786
You think of goths.
659
00:27:03,821 --> 00:27:05,183
Groups that were considered
a subculture at one time
660
00:27:05,218 --> 00:27:08,054
have now been absorbed
by the mainstream.
661
00:27:08,089 --> 00:27:09,825
In order for a group of people
662
00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:11,893
to be considered a subculture,
663
00:27:11,928 --> 00:27:13,829
the mainstream has to hate you.
664
00:27:13,864 --> 00:27:15,226
You know, you can take
it back to England
665
00:27:15,261 --> 00:27:17,129
in the seventies,
666
00:27:17,164 --> 00:27:19,197
when you had the sex
pistols and you had
667
00:27:19,232 --> 00:27:23,938
the Damned and all those
old school British punks.
668
00:27:23,973 --> 00:27:25,907
They were not welcomed
with open arms.
669
00:27:25,942 --> 00:27:29,405
The media and the government
wanted them shut down.
670
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,847
We live in an age where
all of those old previous
671
00:27:31,882 --> 00:27:35,114
subcultures have ceased
to be subculture.
672
00:27:35,149 --> 00:27:37,083
But Juggalos are
still a group that is
673
00:27:37,118 --> 00:27:39,921
reviled and misunderstood.
674
00:27:39,956 --> 00:27:42,891
And I think that those
are two of the attitudes
675
00:27:42,926 --> 00:27:46,356
that are going to create any
subculture that has strength.
676
00:27:46,391 --> 00:27:48,765
They're not going to like you,
677
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,998
and they're not going
to understand you.
678
00:27:51,033 --> 00:27:53,297
Why did the
FBI say Juggalos are a gang?
679
00:27:53,332 --> 00:27:56,267
You know, you gotta ask the
fuckin' stupid-ass FBI that
680
00:27:56,302 --> 00:27:59,336
because I don't
know why that is.
681
00:27:59,371 --> 00:28:01,008
The FBI
never contacted us,
682
00:28:01,043 --> 00:28:05,309
asked us what Juggalos
were about, anything.
683
00:28:05,344 --> 00:28:08,818
First I heard the report, I
thought it was just a rumor.
684
00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:10,919
I think I asked
somebody to look it up
685
00:28:10,954 --> 00:28:12,756
and it was a official.
686
00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:15,924
Like official, like
a referee whistle.
687
00:28:15,959 --> 00:28:17,420
It was like.
688
00:28:17,455 --> 00:28:19,488
Hold up, you're
a gangster. What?
689
00:28:19,523 --> 00:28:21,061
You're going to jail. What?
690
00:28:21,096 --> 00:28:22,458
That's my first thought. What?
691
00:28:22,493 --> 00:28:24,031
Are we going to jail?
692
00:28:24,066 --> 00:28:25,461
Are we fuckin' get
locked up for this shit?
693
00:28:25,496 --> 00:28:28,431
What does that make
us, gang leaders?
694
00:28:33,471 --> 00:28:35,977
The thing is Juggalos
aren't a gang.
695
00:28:36,012 --> 00:28:36,879
Right.
696
00:28:39,246 --> 00:28:41,081
It kind of sickens me.
697
00:28:41,116 --> 00:28:43,787
It's added so much to the
prejudice that we already had.
698
00:28:43,822 --> 00:28:45,756
It was already the most
hated band in the world.
699
00:28:45,791 --> 00:28:48,319
And if I wore a Insane
Clown Posse t-shirt
700
00:28:48,354 --> 00:28:50,189
and I walked down the street,
701
00:28:50,224 --> 00:28:52,488
some people would already treat
me like I'm less than them.
702
00:28:52,523 --> 00:28:56,063
Now there's a government agency
telling everyone it's okay.
703
00:28:56,098 --> 00:28:57,262
You can be prejudiced
against them.
704
00:28:57,297 --> 00:28:58,430
They're criminal.
705
00:29:01,202 --> 00:29:03,807
If I get labeled a gang
member because of what the FBI
706
00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:06,205
has labeled everybody, I could
lose my security clearance.
707
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,108
I could lose my job.
708
00:29:08,143 --> 00:29:10,044
I've had somebody make
the comment where I work,
709
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:11,507
"Oh, well, you're
a gang member."
710
00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:13,146
I've never broken the law.
711
00:29:13,181 --> 00:29:14,950
I've never been to
jail, at least, OK,
712
00:29:14,985 --> 00:29:16,413
I worked in a jail,
713
00:29:16,448 --> 00:29:19,317
but I've never been
to jail unwillingly.
714
00:29:19,352 --> 00:29:20,824
♪ Say fuck the world ♪
715
00:29:20,859 --> 00:29:22,320
♪ Fuck the world! ♪
716
00:29:22,355 --> 00:29:25,257
♪ If I only could I'd
set the world on fire ♪
717
00:29:25,292 --> 00:29:26,797
♪ Fuck 'em all ♪
718
00:29:26,832 --> 00:29:28,326
♪ Fuck 'em all ♪
719
00:29:28,361 --> 00:29:30,196
I was
riding my bike.
720
00:29:30,231 --> 00:29:32,099
I just had my backpack that
has a hatchet man on it.
721
00:29:32,134 --> 00:29:35,003
The policeman pulled me over
and he started questioning me,
722
00:29:35,038 --> 00:29:36,565
started searching me.
723
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,810
He asked me my gang
affiliation, what rank I was.
724
00:29:39,845 --> 00:29:42,538
♪ Fuck all fifty
two states, oooh ♪
725
00:29:42,573 --> 00:29:44,474
♪ And fuck you ♪
726
00:29:44,509 --> 00:29:46,344
The only probable cause that
they have is this right here.
727
00:29:46,379 --> 00:29:48,478
You can get stopped on
the street just for wearing
728
00:29:48,513 --> 00:29:50,480
a Riddle Box sweatshirt
729
00:29:50,515 --> 00:29:53,549
or sporting a Hatchetman
charm around your neck.
730
00:29:53,584 --> 00:29:55,892
Cops can and they do stop you.
731
00:29:55,927 --> 00:29:57,223
They will photograph you
and they'll take a picture
732
00:29:57,258 --> 00:29:59,093
of your tattoo.
733
00:29:59,128 --> 00:30:01,359
They'll put you on a gang
list just for wearing clothes.
734
00:30:01,394 --> 00:30:03,999
What the fuck is that?
735
00:30:04,034 --> 00:30:07,200
You got like a mom taking
her 14 year old son,
736
00:30:07,235 --> 00:30:10,302
to go to Hot Topic, to buy
an Insane Clown Posse shirt.
737
00:30:10,337 --> 00:30:12,843
This kid's a gang member?
738
00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:16,077
Somehow he's in the
same boat as MS-13?
739
00:30:17,575 --> 00:30:18,442
Bullshit.
740
00:30:20,017 --> 00:30:21,577
Our daughter is
four years old.
741
00:30:21,612 --> 00:30:23,414
So are they gonna consider
her a gang member?
742
00:30:23,449 --> 00:30:25,020
So I was trying to
reenlist in the military.
743
00:30:25,055 --> 00:30:26,318
All the recruiters
pretty much like, hey,
744
00:30:26,353 --> 00:30:27,825
ICP tattoos, no.
745
00:30:29,224 --> 00:30:31,092
Gang affiliated, you know?
746
00:30:31,127 --> 00:30:32,225
Cause it's a question on
there, are you affiliated
747
00:30:32,260 --> 00:30:34,260
with any gang or have been?
748
00:30:34,295 --> 00:30:36,196
I got arrested
for a DUI and I got
749
00:30:36,231 --> 00:30:37,901
separated into a gang unit.
750
00:30:37,936 --> 00:30:40,464
Locked up with all
these gang members,
751
00:30:40,499 --> 00:30:43,005
Nortes and Crips and Bloods.
752
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,041
I'm not going to
lie, it's terrifying.
753
00:30:46,076 --> 00:30:48,945
♪ Fuck the police,
and the 5-0 too ♪
754
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:50,111
If police
look at your car and
755
00:30:50,146 --> 00:30:51,508
they determine that's a Juggalo,
756
00:30:51,543 --> 00:30:54,016
hundred percent, you're
getting pulled over.
757
00:30:54,051 --> 00:30:55,886
They
start pulling stuff out.
758
00:30:55,921 --> 00:30:57,316
We're like, this is gonna take
us hours to pack it again.
759
00:30:57,351 --> 00:30:59,087
It took us four hours
to put it in there.
760
00:30:59,122 --> 00:31:00,990
We get back on the
expressway and sure enough,
761
00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:02,651
if we don't pass the same
cops and they have a Juggalo
762
00:31:02,686 --> 00:31:04,928
pulled over and all their
stuff pulled out of their car.
763
00:31:04,963 --> 00:31:07,524
People were getting fucked
with on a major level.
764
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,032
We did not understand
the magnitude of how it
765
00:31:10,067 --> 00:31:11,561
would fuck up Juggalos.
766
00:31:11,596 --> 00:31:13,266
Didn't know the
repercussions of it, you know?
767
00:31:13,301 --> 00:31:15,268
And once we started
getting the reports,
768
00:31:15,303 --> 00:31:18,601
the jokes stopped and
the freshness ended
769
00:31:19,978 --> 00:31:22,209
and it just started sucking.
770
00:31:22,244 --> 00:31:23,606
Fuck the FBI!
771
00:31:23,641 --> 00:31:25,311
Fuck the FBI!
772
00:31:25,346 --> 00:31:26,411
Fuck the FBI!
773
00:31:27,986 --> 00:31:29,348
You know if this were to
774
00:31:29,383 --> 00:31:31,152
happen to a band
that America liked,
775
00:31:31,187 --> 00:31:33,649
the country would be
up in arms about this.
776
00:31:33,684 --> 00:31:36,157
But it happened to the
Insane Clown Posse.
777
00:31:36,192 --> 00:31:37,554
So it's a joke.
778
00:31:37,589 --> 00:31:39,688
Stop and take us
out of the equation.
779
00:31:39,723 --> 00:31:41,624
Look what they're saying.
780
00:31:41,659 --> 00:31:44,693
If the Juggalos qualify
as a criminal street gang,
781
00:31:44,728 --> 00:31:46,332
many other groups of fans
782
00:31:46,367 --> 00:31:49,203
could be similarly categorized.
783
00:31:49,238 --> 00:31:53,042
For example, fans of
particular sports teams.
784
00:31:59,347 --> 00:32:02,051
A lot of the gangs
use sports memorabilia
785
00:32:02,086 --> 00:32:03,712
as their gang logo.
786
00:32:03,747 --> 00:32:05,615
If you're in a gang neighborhood
787
00:32:05,650 --> 00:32:09,487
wearing that particular
jersey or cap or whatnot,
788
00:32:09,522 --> 00:32:12,963
law enforcement can use
that as probable cause
789
00:32:12,998 --> 00:32:15,691
for stopping and searching.
790
00:32:15,726 --> 00:32:18,199
- The gang label was misguided,
791
00:32:18,234 --> 00:32:20,630
but it was also very
intentional because I feel like
792
00:32:20,665 --> 00:32:22,599
America hates the poor.
793
00:32:22,634 --> 00:32:26,141
Right now I work
in a restaurant.
794
00:32:26,176 --> 00:32:27,571
It's okay.
795
00:32:27,606 --> 00:32:29,210
Oh yeah, me? I work
at a hardware store.
796
00:32:29,245 --> 00:32:30,409
I admit to doing that.
797
00:32:30,444 --> 00:32:33,445
I work at taco bell for now.
798
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,348
I mean, it's
something to get by.
799
00:32:35,383 --> 00:32:37,119
I do roofing for a living.
800
00:32:37,154 --> 00:32:39,352
Oh, I mow grass.
801
00:32:39,387 --> 00:32:41,024
99% Of my friends,
802
00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:43,587
they're in the service
industry, fry cooks,
803
00:32:43,622 --> 00:32:46,623
just on the bottom
chain of society.
804
00:32:46,658 --> 00:32:50,429
So to see any unity between
these people is a major threat.
805
00:32:50,464 --> 00:32:53,696
Like if they're going
to come after these kids
806
00:32:53,731 --> 00:32:57,601
who put on face paint
and throw cheap soda,
807
00:32:57,636 --> 00:32:59,174
I mean really, come on.
808
00:32:59,209 --> 00:33:00,670
It's the most harmless thing.
809
00:33:00,705 --> 00:33:02,342
If they're gonna
to come after that,
810
00:33:02,377 --> 00:33:05,081
what are they going
to come after next?
811
00:33:14,191 --> 00:33:16,785
Yeah, we've been
together for 16 years now.
812
00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:19,161
We've been married for seven.
813
00:33:19,196 --> 00:33:20,591
Eight.
814
00:33:20,626 --> 00:33:22,791
Eight, oh my goodness, yes.
815
00:33:22,826 --> 00:33:24,496
I love you, bye.
816
00:33:24,531 --> 00:33:25,398
Love you.
817
00:33:27,105 --> 00:33:28,269
There he goes.
818
00:33:28,304 --> 00:33:29,798
Love you.
819
00:33:29,833 --> 00:33:31,404
Love you.
820
00:33:31,439 --> 00:33:33,043
Bye babe.
821
00:33:33,078 --> 00:33:35,540
Today I got ready for
work with you guys.
822
00:33:35,575 --> 00:33:37,047
I drove to work.
823
00:33:38,248 --> 00:33:39,775
I love what I do.
824
00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:41,810
They have me on their pamphlets.
825
00:33:41,845 --> 00:33:44,186
It was just like any
normal, typical day.
826
00:33:44,221 --> 00:33:45,748
Except for, you know,
you guys watched me
827
00:33:45,783 --> 00:33:48,190
out in the parking lot.
828
00:33:48,225 --> 00:33:50,621
At the end of my workday after
I'd seen all my patients,
829
00:33:50,656 --> 00:33:53,723
I received a phone call from
the head of human resources,
830
00:33:53,758 --> 00:33:57,199
wanting to know what this
documentary was about.
831
00:33:57,234 --> 00:33:59,333
So I told her it was about
music that we listen to
832
00:33:59,368 --> 00:34:03,436
and how the music is associated
with being in a gang.
833
00:34:03,471 --> 00:34:05,801
And they terminated me.
834
00:34:05,836 --> 00:34:08,705
It's like some
crazy communist shit.
835
00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:10,344
I don't know what
a communist is,
836
00:34:10,379 --> 00:34:13,116
but I know this feels
like some big, powerful,
837
00:34:13,151 --> 00:34:15,283
scary government bullshit.
838
00:34:16,682 --> 00:34:18,583
There's no word to
describe how insane,
839
00:34:18,618 --> 00:34:21,289
how crazy, how asinine it is.
840
00:34:21,324 --> 00:34:23,786
I'm about to start
making words up.
841
00:34:23,821 --> 00:34:25,623
And just think if
we just rolled over
842
00:34:25,658 --> 00:34:26,789
and took it up the ass,
843
00:34:26,824 --> 00:34:28,428
where would it stop?
844
00:34:28,463 --> 00:34:32,234
If we don't do something
about it, who's next?
845
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:41,276
Check this out, there's
some real shit here, man.
846
00:34:41,311 --> 00:34:42,706
Real shit man, all right?
847
00:34:42,741 --> 00:34:45,346
Fuckin' major news here.
848
00:34:45,381 --> 00:34:47,249
Three letters, the FBI.
849
00:34:49,682 --> 00:34:52,188
We're not just laying down
850
00:34:52,223 --> 00:34:54,289
and taking it up the ass.
851
00:35:05,533 --> 00:35:07,467
Check it out, we're
taking the name Juggalo
852
00:35:07,502 --> 00:35:09,205
the fuck back from
them motherfuckers,
853
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,306
you know what I'm saying?
854
00:35:13,343 --> 00:35:16,410
We have the best
legal representation
855
00:35:17,644 --> 00:35:19,248
money can buy.
856
00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:20,678
There he is right here, Farris.
857
00:35:20,713 --> 00:35:23,549
Give it up for our
attorney, ya'll.
858
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:29,291
You all have a family
attorney now, all right?
859
00:35:29,326 --> 00:35:32,327
We're gonna lay the
law down on the FBI
860
00:35:32,362 --> 00:35:33,757
for the whole fam.
861
00:35:42,801 --> 00:35:44,702
People always joke and ask
me if I'm going to show up
862
00:35:44,737 --> 00:35:47,309
to court in face pain
or something like that.
863
00:35:47,344 --> 00:35:51,313
If the opportunity presents
itself, maybe I will, but...
864
00:35:51,348 --> 00:35:53,282
I focus on a lot of DUIs,
865
00:35:53,317 --> 00:35:55,845
a lot of possession
of marijuana cases,
866
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,485
a lot of misdemeanor cases.
867
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,520
I see this big guy at an
ATM with his wife and kids
868
00:36:00,555 --> 00:36:03,259
and figure out that
it's Violent J.
869
00:36:03,294 --> 00:36:04,821
So I said, "You probably
don't meet too many Juggalos
870
00:36:04,856 --> 00:36:06,493
that are lawyers."
871
00:36:06,528 --> 00:36:08,264
And I was like, "Let
me give you my card.
872
00:36:08,299 --> 00:36:09,859
If you ever need
anything, give me a call.
873
00:36:09,894 --> 00:36:11,729
I'll do it for free."
874
00:36:11,764 --> 00:36:15,403
And I figured I'd never
hear from them again, ever.
875
00:36:15,438 --> 00:36:17,735
Violent J announced
that Juggalos could come
876
00:36:17,770 --> 00:36:20,408
to this makeshift
office that I had made
877
00:36:20,443 --> 00:36:22,443
at The Gathering and
fill out a statement
878
00:36:22,478 --> 00:36:24,841
and I could interview
them and stuff like that.
879
00:36:24,876 --> 00:36:27,679
There was a line out the
door and around the corner
880
00:36:27,714 --> 00:36:30,319
at that trailer for
people making statements.
881
00:36:30,354 --> 00:36:33,817
Story after story of people
that were doing nothing wrong,
882
00:36:33,852 --> 00:36:35,918
but were being treated
like criminals.
883
00:36:35,953 --> 00:36:37,953
We filed a Freedom of
Information Act request
884
00:36:37,988 --> 00:36:41,660
to find out why the FBI
put them on the gang list.
885
00:36:41,695 --> 00:36:44,993
What we got was
shocking and surprising.
886
00:36:45,028 --> 00:36:50,207
Literally looked like Google
research of some news articles.
887
00:36:52,574 --> 00:36:55,938
The majority of it
was random alarmist
888
00:36:55,973 --> 00:36:58,974
local news articles off of
the internet saying that
889
00:36:59,009 --> 00:37:02,582
there was some crime, whether
it's vandalism, assault,
890
00:37:02,617 --> 00:37:06,850
stealing, larceny, and the
people happened to be Juggalos.
891
00:37:06,885 --> 00:37:10,458
And that was what they
sent us as support for them
892
00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:12,922
putting Juggalos
on the gang list.
893
00:37:12,957 --> 00:37:14,990
Basically what the FBI said
is we're just reporting what
894
00:37:15,025 --> 00:37:17,564
these local law enforcement
officers are telling us.
895
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:19,368
That was their other excuse.
896
00:37:19,403 --> 00:37:20,633
From the outside looking in,
897
00:37:20,668 --> 00:37:22,536
it might look like a gang.
898
00:37:22,571 --> 00:37:26,375
It also looks a heck of a
lot like any other fan base.
899
00:37:28,379 --> 00:37:30,643
It starts with Juggalos, but
it's a very slippery slope.
900
00:37:30,678 --> 00:37:32,315
People who listen
to gangster rap.
901
00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:35,483
Lil Wayne claims to be
related to the Bloods.
902
00:37:35,518 --> 00:37:36,715
Maybe people going
to his concerts,
903
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:37,914
maybe some of them are Bloods.
904
00:37:37,949 --> 00:37:39,784
Maybe they're all Bloods.
905
00:37:39,819 --> 00:37:44,789
And then that's sort of where
this has snowballed into.
906
00:37:45,726 --> 00:37:47,363
That's what's at stake.
907
00:37:47,398 --> 00:37:49,024
Whether we live in a
free country or not.
908
00:37:49,059 --> 00:37:50,927
Whether we live in an
America where everything's
909
00:37:50,962 --> 00:37:51,928
gonna to be censored and
you're going to be afraid
910
00:37:51,963 --> 00:37:53,534
to express who you are.
911
00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:55,800
I swear to God.
912
00:37:55,835 --> 00:37:57,472
The FBI, they might as well
913
00:37:57,507 --> 00:38:00,409
be hating on fans of KISS.
914
00:38:00,444 --> 00:38:01,872
Are they gang members? No.
915
00:38:01,907 --> 00:38:03,511
Why the fuck does that
make us gang members?
916
00:38:03,546 --> 00:38:05,348
It's a bunch of
discrimination bullshit
917
00:38:05,383 --> 00:38:06,844
and there's no reason for it.
918
00:38:06,879 --> 00:38:08,582
You just find a
small group of people
919
00:38:08,617 --> 00:38:10,485
that most people don't
give a crap about
920
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,916
and you box them in and you
say those people are bad.
921
00:38:12,951 --> 00:38:14,588
Then you just make
everybody else say,
922
00:38:14,623 --> 00:38:16,458
oh, well screw those
people, they're bad.
923
00:38:16,493 --> 00:38:18,020
Well, if you box everybody
up enough and you make
924
00:38:18,055 --> 00:38:20,495
all these small
individual bad groups,
925
00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:23,498
then everybody's
bad and everybody's
fighting one another.
926
00:38:23,533 --> 00:38:26,061
If having bad taste
in music was a crime,
927
00:38:26,096 --> 00:38:30,835
every Parrothead in the world
would be on the gang list.
928
00:38:41,947 --> 00:38:43,419
Here in Los Angeles,
929
00:38:43,454 --> 00:38:46,015
MS-13 had a
notorious reputation,
930
00:38:46,050 --> 00:38:48,083
kind of like Insane Clown Posse,
931
00:38:48,118 --> 00:38:50,888
of being kind of
eerie and mysterious
932
00:38:50,923 --> 00:38:52,527
because some of its members,
933
00:38:52,562 --> 00:38:56,597
probably less than
1%, were Satanists.
934
00:38:56,632 --> 00:39:00,469
I spent over 16 years
researching the MS-13 gang
935
00:39:00,504 --> 00:39:02,064
on a daily basis.
936
00:39:02,099 --> 00:39:05,001
I was hanging out with
active members of MS
937
00:39:05,036 --> 00:39:07,608
from the wannabes to the OGs.
938
00:39:07,643 --> 00:39:09,841
I would bring pizza or soda pop.
939
00:39:09,876 --> 00:39:12,613
The problem was when I was
started getting paged at
940
00:39:12,648 --> 00:39:14,043
two o'clock in the
morning, right?
941
00:39:14,078 --> 00:39:16,485
I need a ride home, Thomas.
942
00:39:18,082 --> 00:39:22,425
The FBI assessment of the
Juggalos as a non-traditional,
943
00:39:24,022 --> 00:39:27,661
or hybrid gang, states
that many Juggalo subsets
944
00:39:27,696 --> 00:39:29,960
exhibit gang-like behavior
945
00:39:29,995 --> 00:39:32,732
and engage in criminal
activity and violence.
946
00:39:32,767 --> 00:39:34,800
So what is a street gang?
947
00:39:34,835 --> 00:39:37,132
The federal definition
is an association
948
00:39:37,167 --> 00:39:39,706
of three or more individuals.
949
00:39:41,479 --> 00:39:44,480
Who's members collectively
identify themselves
950
00:39:44,515 --> 00:39:47,516
by adopting a group identity.
951
00:39:53,051 --> 00:39:56,019
Who's purpose is
in part to engage
952
00:39:56,054 --> 00:40:01,057
in criminal activity and which
uses violence or intimidation
953
00:40:04,227 --> 00:40:06,667
to further criminal enterprise.
954
00:40:06,702 --> 00:40:08,196
We're not a
criminal organization.
955
00:40:08,231 --> 00:40:09,604
We're not even an organization.
956
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:11,507
We're not organized.
957
00:40:11,542 --> 00:40:13,201
Just
because I'm wearing this shirt
958
00:40:13,236 --> 00:40:14,840
that's got the Hatchetman
on the back and everything.
959
00:40:14,875 --> 00:40:16,743
It doesn't mean
I'm a gang banger.
960
00:40:16,778 --> 00:40:17,876
It doesn't mean I'm going
to hurt you or kill you.
961
00:40:17,911 --> 00:40:19,009
We're just one big family.
962
00:40:19,044 --> 00:40:20,450
We look out for each other.
963
00:40:20,485 --> 00:40:21,616
We look out for each other.
964
00:40:21,651 --> 00:40:23,453
Half of us ain't got parents.
965
00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:26,214
Half of us ain't got
nobody to give us nothing.
966
00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:27,985
It's just the
loyalty they bring to you.
967
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:30,559
That's what makes
a person family.
968
00:40:30,594 --> 00:40:32,495
I'm family, she's family.
969
00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:34,464
Hell, shit, all
of you are family.
970
00:40:34,499 --> 00:40:35,861
Wanna come by later
and get fucked up?
971
00:40:35,896 --> 00:40:36,994
We can get fucked up.
972
00:40:37,029 --> 00:40:39,161
Don't matter, we're family.
973
00:40:39,196 --> 00:40:40,536
It means a lot,
we like family.
974
00:40:40,571 --> 00:40:41,834
This is like a family.
975
00:40:41,869 --> 00:40:43,099
It means a lot to me.
976
00:40:43,134 --> 00:40:45,574
I love them, they love me.
977
00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:47,609
The Juggalo family
is the only people
978
00:40:47,644 --> 00:40:49,479
that I can trust.
979
00:40:49,514 --> 00:40:53,208
That I know if I need
something, they're there.
980
00:40:53,243 --> 00:40:57,146
There's no more gang
members in Juggalos
981
00:40:57,181 --> 00:40:59,489
than there is anything else.
982
00:40:59,524 --> 00:41:02,591
We sold 10 million
records, guaranteed.
983
00:41:02,626 --> 00:41:05,726
10 million people, take
a comb through that?
984
00:41:05,761 --> 00:41:08,795
Whatever you're looking
for is gonna be in there.
985
00:41:08,830 --> 00:41:10,797
They say that
because some kid committed some,
986
00:41:10,832 --> 00:41:14,031
even a horrific crime, that
happens to be a Juggalo,
987
00:41:14,066 --> 00:41:17,133
that just means all Juggalos
are criminals and gang members?
988
00:41:17,168 --> 00:41:18,772
It's crazy.
989
00:41:18,807 --> 00:41:20,741
People that listen to
Mozart kill people.
990
00:41:20,776 --> 00:41:24,239
I'm sure Jack the Ripper
loves some Mozart.
991
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:28,045
Two
men calling themselves
992
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,916
Juggalos are arrested after
the body of 21 year old,
993
00:41:30,951 --> 00:41:33,721
Michael Goucher is
found in the woods
994
00:41:33,756 --> 00:41:36,020
stabbed more than 20 times.
995
00:41:36,055 --> 00:41:39,023
- We've got multiple individuals
996
00:41:39,058 --> 00:41:41,630
committing gang related crimes,
997
00:41:41,665 --> 00:41:43,093
gang motivated crimes.
998
00:41:43,128 --> 00:41:45,964
And they're using
the name Juggalo.
999
00:41:45,999 --> 00:41:48,032
The media spotlight
is on this thing.
1000
00:41:48,067 --> 00:41:49,869
The media blew it up.
1001
00:41:49,904 --> 00:41:52,641
It got everybody in an uproar.
1002
00:41:52,676 --> 00:41:54,236
A Juggalo
is responsible for attacking
1003
00:41:54,271 --> 00:41:56,744
a man on a bike
with a meat cleaver.
1004
00:41:56,779 --> 00:41:58,108
The
FBI cited a robbery and
1005
00:41:58,143 --> 00:41:59,945
a beating of a homeless man.
1006
00:41:59,980 --> 00:42:01,782
They also cited a Juggalo
who shot and wounded
1007
00:42:01,817 --> 00:42:03,652
a couple in Washington state.
1008
00:42:03,687 --> 00:42:05,115
The
two suspects involved actually
1009
00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:08,019
had their faces painted
like clowns at the time.
1010
00:42:08,054 --> 00:42:09,988
Shops, restaurants and bars
1011
00:42:10,023 --> 00:42:13,222
under attack in one of
Portland's trendiest
neighborhoods.
1012
00:42:13,257 --> 00:42:14,289
A threatening message
1013
00:42:14,324 --> 00:42:16,159
laced with profanity.
1014
00:42:16,194 --> 00:42:19,063
A group called the Juggalo
family, taking responsibility.
1015
00:42:19,098 --> 00:42:20,933
We're just doing
what we do, man.
1016
00:42:20,968 --> 00:42:22,902
We're doing it for the
Juggalos, you know?
1017
00:42:22,937 --> 00:42:25,036
Every business sells
to their clientele.
1018
00:42:25,071 --> 00:42:26,873
Well that's all we're doing.
1019
00:42:26,908 --> 00:42:28,710
We're not going to
water down what we do.
1020
00:42:28,745 --> 00:42:30,206
If people like it, they like it.
1021
00:42:30,241 --> 00:42:32,175
If not, fuck 'em
anyhow, you know?
1022
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:34,881
A number of people
who have been associated with
1023
00:42:34,916 --> 00:42:36,652
acts of violence and murder
1024
00:42:36,687 --> 00:42:40,018
have had some kind of
connection to ICP and Juggalos.
1025
00:42:40,053 --> 00:42:42,790
They're no longer regarded as
innocent lovers of your music.
1026
00:42:42,825 --> 00:42:44,693
I say bull.
1027
00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:45,826
I say it's not true.
1028
00:42:45,861 --> 00:42:47,597
Let me give you an example.
1029
00:42:47,632 --> 00:42:49,291
In February, 2006.
1030
00:42:49,326 --> 00:42:52,228
Individual attacks people
with a machete in a gay bar,
1031
00:42:52,263 --> 00:42:54,769
he kills a police
officer in traffic stop,
1032
00:42:54,804 --> 00:42:56,133
he call himself a Juggalo.
1033
00:42:56,168 --> 00:42:57,706
Someone's been shot.
1034
00:42:57,741 --> 00:42:59,070
Somebody's been shot?
1035
00:42:59,105 --> 00:43:00,203
Someone's been shot,
1036
00:43:00,238 --> 00:43:01,336
you have to get here now.
1037
00:43:07,014 --> 00:43:10,884
♪ Were so gallantly streaming ♪
1038
00:43:10,919 --> 00:43:15,251
♪ And the rocket's red glare ♪
1039
00:43:15,286 --> 00:43:20,289
♪ The bombs bursting in air ♪
1040
00:43:21,391 --> 00:43:26,163
♪ Gave proof through the night ♪
1041
00:43:27,738 --> 00:43:31,773
♪ That our flag
was still there ♪
1042
00:43:33,205 --> 00:43:37,174
♪ O say does that
star-spangled banner yet wave ♪
1043
00:43:44,084 --> 00:43:45,820
We are
here at the 29th annual
1044
00:43:45,855 --> 00:43:47,723
Utah Gang Conference.
1045
00:43:47,758 --> 00:43:49,890
This is our opportunity to
teach our community partners
1046
00:43:49,925 --> 00:43:52,860
about current gang trends
and give them the information
1047
00:43:52,895 --> 00:43:55,258
to use in their daily functions.
1048
00:43:55,293 --> 00:43:57,359
♪ Gang signs, up in the sky ♪
1049
00:43:57,394 --> 00:43:59,933
♪ Gang signs, up in the sky ♪
1050
00:43:59,968 --> 00:44:02,837
What I do is I teach
basically hip hop music
1051
00:44:02,872 --> 00:44:04,839
and how it's gang involved.
1052
00:44:04,874 --> 00:44:06,676
If you have questions about
what some of this means,
1053
00:44:06,711 --> 00:44:08,436
there's a definition book.
1054
00:44:08,471 --> 00:44:11,274
And for the safety
of the presenter,
1055
00:44:11,309 --> 00:44:14,079
do not share any information
about the presenters.
1056
00:44:14,114 --> 00:44:15,080
Oh shit, turn it off.
1057
00:44:15,115 --> 00:44:16,950
Take pictures, videos.
1058
00:44:16,985 --> 00:44:18,347
I think
that the focus of that
1059
00:44:18,382 --> 00:44:19,986
threat assessment
was on Salt Lake City
1060
00:44:20,021 --> 00:44:21,889
because we were seeing
heavy activity from our
1061
00:44:21,924 --> 00:44:25,992
Juggalo groups that made us
identify them as gang members.
1062
00:44:26,027 --> 00:44:29,358
From about 1996 until
kind of the mid 2000s,
1063
00:44:29,393 --> 00:44:32,999
we dealt with Juggalos out
on our west side a lot.
1064
00:44:33,034 --> 00:44:35,771
There were some
problems between Juggalos
1065
00:44:35,806 --> 00:44:37,465
and members of other
gangs that became
1066
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:40,941
relatively common for a
couple years in Salt Lake
1067
00:44:40,976 --> 00:44:44,043
to have people who affiliated
themselves with Juggalos
1068
00:44:44,078 --> 00:44:45,847
to be fighting with somebody
1069
00:44:45,882 --> 00:44:48,685
who was a member
of another gang.
1070
00:44:50,953 --> 00:44:54,317
In the summer of 2008,
there was a serious assault
1071
00:44:54,352 --> 00:44:56,385
involving two Juggalos
that I charged
1072
00:44:56,420 --> 00:44:58,827
as an attempted murder.
1073
00:44:58,862 --> 00:45:03,491
Two Juggalos attacked a young
man with a large hunting knife
1074
00:45:03,526 --> 00:45:07,231
and a battle axe that was
mounted onto a golf club.
1075
00:45:07,266 --> 00:45:09,101
Stabbed him multiple times,
1076
00:45:09,136 --> 00:45:13,171
took multiple swings at
his shoulder and neck area.
1077
00:45:14,878 --> 00:45:17,208
We get a call of aggravated
assault in progress.
1078
00:45:17,243 --> 00:45:19,980
Initial information
given by our dispatch was
1079
00:45:20,015 --> 00:45:22,411
two male suspects, tan Nissan.
1080
00:45:23,986 --> 00:45:26,118
My partner finds
a Juggalo pendant.
1081
00:45:26,153 --> 00:45:30,419
It's a Hatchetman hanging
on the fence of the house.
1082
00:45:32,225 --> 00:45:33,994
I see this tan Nissan
approach me and I'm like,
1083
00:45:34,029 --> 00:45:35,897
no, this can't be true.
1084
00:45:35,932 --> 00:45:38,768
And I see the Hatchetman
on the back of the window.
1085
00:45:38,803 --> 00:45:41,903
And so I was like, you know
I got to pull this car over.
1086
00:45:41,938 --> 00:45:43,300
We're like face to face.
1087
00:45:43,335 --> 00:45:45,335
And I noticed as
I'm talking to him,
1088
00:45:45,370 --> 00:45:48,371
I could still see some dry
blood splatter on his face.
1089
00:45:48,406 --> 00:45:50,780
I end up doing a
search of the vehicle.
1090
00:45:50,815 --> 00:45:52,210
I pull out all these weapons,
1091
00:45:52,245 --> 00:45:53,816
lay them out on the
trunk of the car.
1092
00:45:53,851 --> 00:45:55,345
Daggers, hatchets.
1093
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:58,986
There was just a whole
arsenal of weapons.
1094
00:46:02,992 --> 00:46:04,860
The victim's
neck was just filleted open
1095
00:46:04,895 --> 00:46:06,290
from the axe.
1096
00:46:06,325 --> 00:46:08,831
It was one of the
more bloody and
1097
00:46:08,866 --> 00:46:12,329
disturbing crime
scenes I've ever seen.
1098
00:46:12,364 --> 00:46:15,497
I mean, it looks
like a slasher movie.
1099
00:46:17,303 --> 00:46:18,434
We follow
a national definition.
1100
00:46:18,469 --> 00:46:19,875
Group of three or more people,
1101
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:21,338
common name symbol identifier,
1102
00:46:21,373 --> 00:46:23,274
that engage in
criminal activity.
1103
00:46:23,309 --> 00:46:26,310
You know, Juggalos, they fit
under those three criterias.
1104
00:46:26,345 --> 00:46:29,885
It's fair to say that
some were gang members.
1105
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,051
They're violent.
1106
00:46:31,086 --> 00:46:33,152
You know, the music is violent.
1107
00:46:33,187 --> 00:46:36,826
♪ I stab people, 4,
5 people everyday ♪
1108
00:46:36,861 --> 00:46:38,927
♪ I tried to see a shrink
to stop that shit ♪
1109
00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:40,830
♪ But it ain't no fucking way ♪
1110
00:46:40,865 --> 00:46:42,832
Did you
want to stab people?
1111
00:46:42,867 --> 00:46:44,493
Sometimes.
1112
00:46:44,528 --> 00:46:47,430
Maybe in my subconscious
anger, but not in real life.
1113
00:46:47,465 --> 00:46:49,300
We're sitting here
in clown paint.
1114
00:46:49,335 --> 00:46:52,600
How do you write a line
like, from Pluto to your anus,
1115
00:46:52,635 --> 00:46:54,844
we are underground famous?
1116
00:46:54,879 --> 00:46:57,044
That's dope, man. Welcome
to the world of rap.
1117
00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:00,476
What does it mean if you
call a song Imma Kill U?
1118
00:47:00,511 --> 00:47:02,918
It means
I'ma kill you.
1119
00:47:02,953 --> 00:47:05,448
But I mean how you take
that, I mean are you
1120
00:47:05,483 --> 00:47:07,351
like a grown retard
or something?
1121
00:47:07,386 --> 00:47:09,221
You're gonna go out and do it?
1122
00:47:09,256 --> 00:47:10,860
Are you some
kinda murderer to begin with?
1123
00:47:10,895 --> 00:47:12,389
This is what you say
in To Catch a Predator.
1124
00:47:12,424 --> 00:47:14,589
♪ I stab 'em in the neck
first, 'cause it hurts ♪
1125
00:47:14,624 --> 00:47:16,492
♪ Hit 'em where
the blood squirts ♪
1126
00:47:16,527 --> 00:47:18,934
♪ Carve his whole face
off and make him eat it ♪
1127
00:47:18,969 --> 00:47:21,904
♪ Chain him up by the foot
in my basement bleeding ♪
1128
00:47:21,939 --> 00:47:23,939
We're entertainers
you know what I mean?
1129
00:47:23,974 --> 00:47:25,369
So you don't really mean-
1130
00:47:25,404 --> 00:47:26,634
- No we'd be in
prison right now.
1131
00:47:26,669 --> 00:47:28,570
We'd be in prison for life.
1132
00:47:28,605 --> 00:47:31,474
I myself was molested as a
child, you know what I mean?
1133
00:47:31,509 --> 00:47:32,475
Really?
1134
00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:34,048
Yeah, absolutely.
1135
00:47:35,678 --> 00:47:38,019
I always wonder if
it would have been different.
1136
00:47:38,054 --> 00:47:41,220
You know you always think,
I wonder if I hadn't married
1137
00:47:41,255 --> 00:47:45,587
an asshole, if their lives
would have been different.
1138
00:47:47,393 --> 00:47:49,998
This guy was like the worst
kind of human being ever.
1139
00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:51,428
You know what I mean?
1140
00:47:51,463 --> 00:47:54,497
He'd get super angry
at Duke, our dog
1141
00:47:54,532 --> 00:47:58,039
and he used to chase him around
the yard and like kick him.
1142
00:47:58,074 --> 00:48:01,570
For us, We just stayed out
of the house all the time.
1143
00:48:01,605 --> 00:48:03,913
One of the kind of
lingering damages
1144
00:48:03,948 --> 00:48:07,950
is I don't like to be
touched by guys at all.
1145
00:48:07,985 --> 00:48:09,149
I just snap.
1146
00:48:09,184 --> 00:48:10,051
You know.
1147
00:48:18,259 --> 00:48:21,161
My name is Margee
Kerr and I'm a sociologist
1148
00:48:21,196 --> 00:48:24,967
and I'm working on a book
about how and why we engage
1149
00:48:25,002 --> 00:48:27,497
with thrilling and
scary material.
1150
00:48:27,532 --> 00:48:29,103
And coming to The Gathering...
1151
00:48:31,503 --> 00:48:34,174
I was reading about
how negative things
1152
00:48:34,209 --> 00:48:35,505
happen at The Gathering.
1153
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:37,045
But Juggalos themselves
would state that
1154
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,409
they loved each other.
1155
00:48:38,444 --> 00:48:40,246
It was all about family,
all about respect.
1156
00:48:40,281 --> 00:48:43,150
So I saw this huge discrepancy
between what the people
1157
00:48:43,185 --> 00:48:45,251
themselves were saying and
what outsiders were saying.
1158
00:48:45,286 --> 00:48:47,154
And for a sociologist,
that's like a huge red flag.
1159
00:48:47,189 --> 00:48:50,388
So I wanted to come
and see for myself.
1160
00:48:51,996 --> 00:48:54,491
I see a lot of parallels
between the motivations
1161
00:48:54,526 --> 00:48:57,626
behind hardcore kind of
gangster rap and ICP.
1162
00:48:57,661 --> 00:48:59,727
Both are speaking about
their experiences,
1163
00:48:59,762 --> 00:49:02,301
living in a lower
socioeconomic status,
1164
00:49:02,336 --> 00:49:06,404
being discriminated against,
having people judge them.
1165
00:49:06,439 --> 00:49:08,175
You ever been broke?
1166
00:49:08,210 --> 00:49:10,177
You ever had a family member,
1167
00:49:10,212 --> 00:49:12,674
maybe alcoholic
or drug addicted,
1168
00:49:12,709 --> 00:49:14,346
that's impacting your life?
1169
00:49:14,381 --> 00:49:16,381
Somebody who's just struggling,
1170
00:49:16,416 --> 00:49:19,186
just trying to make it till the
next week or the next month.
1171
00:49:19,221 --> 00:49:20,319
You're not one of
the popular kids.
1172
00:49:20,354 --> 00:49:21,452
You're not playing sports.
1173
00:49:21,487 --> 00:49:23,388
You're not in any of the clubs.
1174
00:49:23,423 --> 00:49:25,720
Growing up, I was kind of
tortured, made fun of a lot.
1175
00:49:25,755 --> 00:49:28,492
My mom moved me from
school to school.
1176
00:49:28,527 --> 00:49:31,660
- I was raised in Philadelphia,
in the Catholic Church,
1177
00:49:31,695 --> 00:49:33,332
in the 80s and the 90s.
1178
00:49:33,367 --> 00:49:36,137
And what went down
there was fucked.
1179
00:49:36,172 --> 00:49:38,271
We're so angry and we're so
hurt because as children,
1180
00:49:38,306 --> 00:49:40,174
we were abused.
1181
00:49:40,209 --> 00:49:42,506
♪ Ticket, please, thanks,
walk trough the doors ♪
1182
00:49:42,541 --> 00:49:45,179
♪ Into the halls of
illusions, visit yours ♪
1183
00:49:45,214 --> 00:49:47,115
♪ And see what could
have and should have ♪
1184
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:48,545
♪ And would have been real ♪
1185
00:49:48,580 --> 00:49:51,251
♪ But you had to fuck
up the whole deal ♪
1186
00:49:51,286 --> 00:49:53,088
I think
that for a lot of fans,
1187
00:49:53,123 --> 00:49:54,749
they probably are connecting
to the violent lyrics
1188
00:49:54,784 --> 00:49:57,026
because it may be
similar to the things
1189
00:49:57,061 --> 00:49:58,720
that they've
experienced themselves.
1190
00:49:58,755 --> 00:50:00,326
You know, it seems like
there are some people here
1191
00:50:00,361 --> 00:50:02,229
who've had some
pretty tough times,
1192
00:50:02,264 --> 00:50:04,033
and I think that they are
connecting to the music
1193
00:50:04,068 --> 00:50:06,299
just as any fan base
would connect to lyrics
1194
00:50:06,334 --> 00:50:08,169
that are going to speak to them.
1195
00:50:08,204 --> 00:50:09,731
We make
music for people like us.
1196
00:50:09,766 --> 00:50:11,766
Broken homes, hard times,
1197
00:50:11,801 --> 00:50:14,373
dealing with painful
shit in their life.
1198
00:50:14,408 --> 00:50:16,342
It's real anger.
1199
00:50:16,377 --> 00:50:18,773
It's your opinion amplified.
1200
00:50:18,808 --> 00:50:21,413
♪ When they were kids, you'd
beat 'em and leave 'em home ♪
1201
00:50:21,448 --> 00:50:24,284
♪ And even whip 'em with
the cord on the telephone ♪
1202
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:26,781
♪ And that reminds me, man,
hey, you've got a call ♪
1203
00:50:26,816 --> 00:50:30,785
♪ Watch your step to
hell, it's a long fall ♪
1204
00:50:30,820 --> 00:50:33,161
An ICP song
is like a three minute
1205
00:50:33,196 --> 00:50:35,163
Stephen King novel.
1206
00:50:35,198 --> 00:50:37,627
If you want to know what's in
the mind of a serial killer,
1207
00:50:37,662 --> 00:50:39,530
you're curious and
you want to go there,
1208
00:50:39,565 --> 00:50:41,301
but don't live there.
1209
00:50:41,336 --> 00:50:43,171
It's a different place to go.
1210
00:50:43,206 --> 00:50:44,601
It's make-believe
1211
00:50:46,143 --> 00:50:48,440
and it's very graphic.
1212
00:50:48,475 --> 00:50:51,179
♪ In the back of my truck,
Chuck the chainsaw ♪
1213
00:50:51,214 --> 00:50:53,676
♪ Usually chop wood,
but that ain't all ♪
1214
00:50:53,711 --> 00:50:56,316
♪ It's a bit strange all
up in your mid-range ♪
1215
00:50:56,351 --> 00:50:59,253
♪ Cut a hole in your
head 'til I hit brain ♪
1216
00:50:59,288 --> 00:51:01,486
It just
blows all of our minds
1217
00:51:01,521 --> 00:51:03,290
how somebody can
make a horror movie
1218
00:51:03,325 --> 00:51:06,194
and it's all graphic and gory
1219
00:51:06,229 --> 00:51:08,097
and that's okay and acceptable.
1220
00:51:08,132 --> 00:51:11,793
But we can't sing a song about
mass murder makes me happy.
1221
00:51:11,828 --> 00:51:12,662
That's catchy.
1222
00:51:12,697 --> 00:51:14,334
It's funny.
1223
00:51:14,369 --> 00:51:16,534
In a way ICP's
music was so healing.
1224
00:51:16,569 --> 00:51:18,470
I didn't need to
stand up and rage out
1225
00:51:18,505 --> 00:51:20,637
because it's kind of like
the clowns did it for me.
1226
00:51:20,672 --> 00:51:22,870
They allowed me to
laugh at all that pain
1227
00:51:22,905 --> 00:51:24,674
and laugh through that pain.
1228
00:51:24,709 --> 00:51:27,611
- It allowed me to vent things,
get things off my chest.
1229
00:51:27,646 --> 00:51:29,316
All the other music,
1230
00:51:29,351 --> 00:51:30,746
no matter how cool the beat is,
1231
00:51:30,781 --> 00:51:32,385
when you listen to
what they're saying,
1232
00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:33,749
you're not really
relating to it.
1233
00:51:33,784 --> 00:51:35,355
These guys are
talking about, hey,
1234
00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:37,753
we're outcasts and
we don't give a shit.
1235
00:51:57,412 --> 00:51:58,906
Come here, Rust.
1236
00:51:58,941 --> 00:52:00,611
Big 'ole Rusty dog.
1237
00:52:01,944 --> 00:52:04,219
Did you
sing the Rusty song?
1238
00:52:04,254 --> 00:52:05,517
Rusty dog.
1239
00:52:05,552 --> 00:52:08,157
What are you doing, Rusty dog?
1240
00:52:09,655 --> 00:52:11,688
I'll tell you how we met.
1241
00:52:11,723 --> 00:52:14,328
She was working at a Friday's.
1242
00:52:14,363 --> 00:52:16,528
TGIFriday's in Minneapolis.
1243
00:52:16,563 --> 00:52:18,167
And she was the girl
at the front that's like,
1244
00:52:18,202 --> 00:52:20,367
"Hi, can I seat you?"
1245
00:52:20,402 --> 00:52:22,237
And she sat us down, all set.
1246
00:52:22,272 --> 00:52:25,240
Put the tables together
and I was like, man,
1247
00:52:25,275 --> 00:52:26,769
I gotta step today.
1248
00:52:26,804 --> 00:52:29,574
No, I didn't sit you down.
1249
00:52:29,609 --> 00:52:31,708
Obsolete information.
1250
00:52:31,743 --> 00:52:33,710
I have a
better memory than you.
1251
00:52:33,745 --> 00:52:35,811
And
then I was like,
1252
00:52:35,846 --> 00:52:37,714
"What're you doing tonight?"
1253
00:52:37,749 --> 00:52:39,353
What made me super fresh was
1254
00:52:39,388 --> 00:52:41,388
I was leaning like this,
1255
00:52:42,721 --> 00:52:44,424
but I wasn't leaning
against nothing.
1256
00:52:44,459 --> 00:52:47,790
I was just leaning
against air like that.
1257
00:52:49,794 --> 00:52:51,365
And I was like,
1258
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,861
"Why don't you come with
me to this concert?"
1259
00:52:52,896 --> 00:52:54,500
I said, who, what concert?
1260
00:52:54,535 --> 00:52:55,732
"What concert
are we going to?"
1261
00:52:55,767 --> 00:52:57,701
And I was like, "mine".
1262
00:53:00,805 --> 00:53:02,508
She came to the show,
1263
00:53:02,543 --> 00:53:05,313
jumped on the bus with me.
1264
00:53:05,348 --> 00:53:07,909
And then all you saw
was lights and exhaust
1265
00:53:07,944 --> 00:53:11,781
as we pulled out of town
together, never to come back.
1266
00:53:11,816 --> 00:53:14,388
It's true, the
next day I went to Denver.
1267
00:53:14,423 --> 00:53:15,884
With him, it's true.
1268
00:53:15,919 --> 00:53:17,556
♪ In yo face! ♪
1269
00:53:17,591 --> 00:53:19,987
We're not young
and wild no more.
1270
00:53:20,022 --> 00:53:23,331
It's not wilding
out, getting crazy.
1271
00:53:23,366 --> 00:53:26,301
♪ I pop out the box,
swing on a spring ♪
1272
00:53:26,336 --> 00:53:28,633
♪ Big Violent J with
the axe out, shing ♪
1273
00:53:28,668 --> 00:53:31,867
Violent J and Shaggy
2 Dope are derived from us.
1274
00:53:31,902 --> 00:53:34,441
Of course Joe and Joey
don't go out cutting necks
1275
00:53:34,476 --> 00:53:36,311
and chopping heads off
1276
00:53:36,346 --> 00:53:38,379
and dragging bodies around
from our car and shit.
1277
00:53:38,414 --> 00:53:40,909
♪ Smash thru the glass
as the fireworks blast ♪
1278
00:53:40,944 --> 00:53:43,483
♪ Shaggy the clown here
to murda some ass ♪
1279
00:53:43,518 --> 00:53:45,353
We're family men.
1280
00:53:45,388 --> 00:53:46,882
We both have a wife and
kids and families and shit.
1281
00:53:46,917 --> 00:53:49,291
I don't believe Shaggy
2 Dope or Violent J
1282
00:53:49,326 --> 00:53:50,490
really have families
cause they're
1283
00:53:50,525 --> 00:53:52,393
too busy murdering people.
1284
00:53:52,428 --> 00:53:54,692
♪ Step yo ass back before
the hatchet attacks ♪
1285
00:53:54,727 --> 00:53:57,629
♪ And ya catch a few
hacks from the axe ♪
1286
00:53:57,664 --> 00:54:00,665
His music isn't for moms.
1287
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:02,337
The only thing I'm
really familiar with
1288
00:54:02,372 --> 00:54:04,273
is in the beginning.
1289
00:54:04,308 --> 00:54:07,408
Because I've stopped
listening now to his music.
1290
00:54:07,443 --> 00:54:10,279
I used to listen
to it all the time.
1291
00:54:10,314 --> 00:54:12,743
It scared me because
I would wake up
1292
00:54:12,778 --> 00:54:15,548
with that tune in my mind.
1293
00:54:15,583 --> 00:54:17,814
♪ I be the strangler,
known coast to coast ♪
1294
00:54:17,849 --> 00:54:20,388
♪ And I turn any
thug into a ghost ♪
1295
00:54:20,423 --> 00:54:21,818
♪ In yo face ♪
1296
00:54:21,853 --> 00:54:23,523
Plus, I know Joe Bruce.
1297
00:54:23,558 --> 00:54:26,658
Violent J is a made up person.
1298
00:54:26,693 --> 00:54:29,793
You know, he's
different than my son.
1299
00:54:29,828 --> 00:54:33,027
Joe Bruce is very
emotional and loving.
1300
00:54:34,371 --> 00:54:35,997
Violent J is streetwise
1301
00:54:36,032 --> 00:54:37,405
and he's crude.
1302
00:54:39,035 --> 00:54:41,068
♪ I shook the hand of Satan
with a cross in my palm ♪
1303
00:54:41,103 --> 00:54:43,873
♪ Burnt all the flesh
all the way up his arm ♪
1304
00:54:43,908 --> 00:54:46,546
♪ I wasn't scared, I
was giddy to do it ♪
1305
00:54:46,581 --> 00:54:48,845
♪ Then I lopped his
head off and threw it ♪
1306
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,980
♪ In yo face ♪
1307
00:54:52,015 --> 00:54:54,389
The masses just
hear fuck, bitch,
1308
00:54:54,424 --> 00:54:56,083
I'll stab you,
dobeedo, you know?
1309
00:54:56,118 --> 00:54:59,328
But there's so much
more underlying.
1310
00:55:00,958 --> 00:55:02,793
One of the things
that I always thought was true
1311
00:55:02,828 --> 00:55:05,433
was when you have to
make a major decision,
1312
00:55:05,468 --> 00:55:08,865
your first instinct
on it is from God.
1313
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:10,900
And then the rest of
your doubt is the devil
1314
00:55:10,935 --> 00:55:12,803
trying to talk you out of it.
1315
00:55:12,838 --> 00:55:14,475
And I was brought up knowing
1316
00:55:14,510 --> 00:55:16,873
that there's something
bigger than us.
1317
00:55:16,908 --> 00:55:19,513
You know, it's something more.
1318
00:55:20,747 --> 00:55:22,978
Juggalos, they hear it.
1319
00:55:23,013 --> 00:55:25,387
The messages in the lyrics.
1320
00:55:27,017 --> 00:55:29,490
Each album gives people a
chance to look at themselves
1321
00:55:29,525 --> 00:55:31,624
in different ways.
1322
00:55:31,659 --> 00:55:34,726
If our music sounds like
endless garbage to you,
1323
00:55:34,761 --> 00:55:36,893
you're not a Juggalo.
1324
00:55:36,928 --> 00:55:38,532
You're not meant to hear it.
1325
00:55:38,567 --> 00:55:40,765
When somebody first
handed me an ICP CD,
1326
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,602
I realized it was starting
to answer questions
1327
00:55:42,637 --> 00:55:44,131
I didn't know I had.
1328
00:55:44,166 --> 00:55:45,473
What is death?
1329
00:55:45,508 --> 00:55:47,101
What forever really means.
1330
00:55:47,136 --> 00:55:49,004
What's going on
in the afterlife?
1331
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:50,775
It tells you a way
to live your life.
1332
00:55:50,810 --> 00:55:52,645
You know, treat
people with respect.
1333
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,043
Make sure that you live
your life right from wrong.
1334
00:55:55,078 --> 00:55:56,682
Don't judge people.
1335
00:55:56,717 --> 00:55:58,948
I believe
it's the one and only
1336
00:55:58,983 --> 00:56:00,554
holy man, you know.
1337
00:56:00,589 --> 00:56:02,622
I believe it's
God talking to us.
1338
00:56:02,657 --> 00:56:04,558
Señor Jesus.
1339
00:56:04,593 --> 00:56:08,364
And we are meant to talk
to the Juggalos, you know?
1340
00:56:09,598 --> 00:56:10,762
♪ Where's God ♪
1341
00:56:10,797 --> 00:56:13,435
♪ Where's God ♪
1342
00:56:13,470 --> 00:56:17,835
♪ Where's God when
shit goes down ♪
1343
00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:20,134
Joe told me we
are the transportation
1344
00:56:20,169 --> 00:56:21,773
to heaven or hell.
1345
00:56:21,808 --> 00:56:24,545
What you do with
it is up to you.
1346
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:27,482
If you listen to the
message, it's there.
1347
00:56:27,517 --> 00:56:29,979
But if you just listen
to the gruesome, well,
1348
00:56:30,014 --> 00:56:31,981
that's up to you.
1349
00:56:32,016 --> 00:56:34,016
♪ This life is tricky,
mean and strange ♪
1350
00:56:34,051 --> 00:56:36,821
♪ You can only be sure
about one thing, change ♪
1351
00:56:36,856 --> 00:56:39,120
♪ For worse or for
better, maintain ♪
1352
00:56:39,155 --> 00:56:41,496
They're showing
you the horror of life.
1353
00:56:41,531 --> 00:56:43,124
They're showing you the comedy.
1354
00:56:43,159 --> 00:56:45,962
There's like all his
comedy in all their music.
1355
00:56:45,997 --> 00:56:48,129
And then there's
all this violence.
1356
00:56:48,164 --> 00:56:51,066
But then there's also
these touching songs
1357
00:56:51,101 --> 00:56:53,772
that are uplifting and
trying to guide you toward
1358
00:56:53,807 --> 00:56:55,543
living a righteous life.
1359
00:56:55,578 --> 00:56:57,512
♪ Truth is happiness
is in your own head ♪
1360
00:56:57,547 --> 00:57:00,075
♪ How you perceive shit
and believe it is ♪
1361
00:57:00,110 --> 00:57:02,748
It's like what a carnival
really aspires to be.
1362
00:57:02,783 --> 00:57:04,948
All these wonders,
all these horrors
1363
00:57:04,983 --> 00:57:06,818
and also an enlightenment.
1364
00:57:06,853 --> 00:57:09,051
And it's why they've
endured for so long.
1365
00:57:09,086 --> 00:57:13,627
People are still captivated
by what their message is.
1366
00:57:19,998 --> 00:57:21,569
The
government can probably find
1367
00:57:21,604 --> 00:57:22,999
200 Juggalos, say these
are all gang members
1368
00:57:23,034 --> 00:57:25,100
and I can show you
20,000 than aren't.
1369
00:57:25,135 --> 00:57:26,772
Let's give a fuck.
1370
00:57:26,807 --> 00:57:30,611
These holidays, every
kid deserves some toys.
1371
00:57:30,646 --> 00:57:31,975
Let's get a fuck!
1372
00:57:32,010 --> 00:57:33,845
The kids deserve it, man!
1373
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,012
The fucking kids!
1374
00:57:36,047 --> 00:57:37,717
Juggalos
have coat drives
1375
00:57:37,752 --> 00:57:40,885
and they donate turkeys
during Thanksgiving.
1376
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,184
♪ Do you notice and
recognize miracles ♪
1377
00:57:43,219 --> 00:57:45,791
At home we do
canned food drives.
1378
00:57:45,826 --> 00:57:47,793
A group
of Insane Clown Posse fans
1379
00:57:47,828 --> 00:57:50,631
grab some brooms, shovels
and some trash bags
1380
00:57:50,666 --> 00:57:53,898
and hit the streets of
Buffalo to help clean up.
1381
00:57:53,933 --> 00:57:56,604
♪ Are you a believer
in miracles ♪
1382
00:57:56,639 --> 00:57:59,805
♪ Pure motherfucking
magic, right? ♪
1383
00:58:01,237 --> 00:58:03,908
Custom made jerseys,
worn only once by
1384
00:58:03,943 --> 00:58:05,778
Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope.
1385
00:58:05,813 --> 00:58:07,274
$3,500!
1386
00:58:07,309 --> 00:58:08,176
$3,500!
1387
00:58:10,983 --> 00:58:13,621
Remember this helps
out a fellow Juggalo
1388
00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:16,283
and he's gonna be getting
a lung transplant.
1389
00:58:16,318 --> 00:58:18,153
At Hallowicked, which is
their Halloween concert,
1390
00:58:18,188 --> 00:58:20,089
If you bring in canned
food, they donate it
1391
00:58:20,124 --> 00:58:21,992
to the charities and
they'll give you a free CD.
1392
00:58:22,027 --> 00:58:23,730
They make sure you can only
bring in good canned food,
1393
00:58:23,765 --> 00:58:25,160
can't bring in like corn.
1394
00:58:25,195 --> 00:58:26,997
You gotta bring in like
SpaghettiOs and stuff.
1395
00:58:27,032 --> 00:58:28,702
It's not a publicity
stunt, you know?
1396
00:58:28,737 --> 00:58:32,640
It's just something
that's right to do.
1397
00:58:32,675 --> 00:58:36,578
Nobody ever wants to
talk about the good stuff.
1398
00:58:36,613 --> 00:58:39,141
The bad stuff is what sells, so.
1399
00:58:41,816 --> 00:58:43,585
Have your chest out
1400
00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:44,817
like you're fuckin'
bad-ass, you ready to fight.
1401
00:58:44,852 --> 00:58:46,720
I can't do that.
1402
00:58:46,755 --> 00:58:48,557
Think of like a
tough song in your head.
1403
00:58:48,592 --> 00:58:49,987
I get called
bad-ass every day at school.
1404
00:58:50,022 --> 00:58:50,988
'Cause you
are a bad-ass, ready?
1405
00:58:51,023 --> 00:58:52,154
I can't stop.
1406
00:58:52,189 --> 00:58:55,025
I have to do it again.
1407
00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:56,257
Redo.
1408
00:58:58,734 --> 00:59:00,569
You can't
say, don't smile.
1409
00:59:00,604 --> 00:59:04,936
OK, get your smile
out, get your smile out.
1410
00:59:06,907 --> 00:59:08,302
I smiled.
1411
00:59:10,911 --> 00:59:12,845
My room is a
1412
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,914
explosion of ICP.
1413
00:59:17,082 --> 00:59:20,017
I'm a collector of
ICP memorabilia.
1414
00:59:21,350 --> 00:59:22,921
I think even if I
didn't like the band,
1415
00:59:22,956 --> 00:59:24,626
I would like their merchandise.
1416
00:59:24,661 --> 00:59:26,254
It's just really cool.
1417
00:59:26,289 --> 00:59:28,256
The clowns are awesome.
1418
00:59:28,291 --> 00:59:31,798
Of course I've got my
Ringmaster blanket.
1419
00:59:31,833 --> 00:59:32,700
My Zippos.
1420
00:59:34,330 --> 00:59:37,199
This was in the backstage
for the wrestling area.
1421
00:59:37,234 --> 00:59:40,169
That's off of
Violent J's shower.
1422
00:59:40,204 --> 00:59:41,742
It's a very small town.
1423
00:59:41,777 --> 00:59:43,139
You do tend to get looks
1424
00:59:43,174 --> 00:59:46,241
when you dress
differently than most.
1425
00:59:46,276 --> 00:59:48,078
Like people you're
holding the door open for,
1426
00:59:48,113 --> 00:59:49,277
they give you just
the strangest.
1427
00:59:49,312 --> 00:59:50,179
What the?
1428
00:59:51,688 --> 00:59:53,985
They're like, "Oh that's
a nice Kokopelli."
1429
00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:55,888
You're like, "Dude, it's
not a Kokopelli, all right?"
1430
00:59:55,923 --> 01:00:00,189
My Hatchetman will stab
your Kokopelli, all right?
1431
01:00:00,224 --> 01:00:03,390
My name is Shawn Wolf,
AKA Sly Guy Smooth.
1432
01:00:03,425 --> 01:00:06,393
I've been a Juggalo
since I was 16.
1433
01:00:06,428 --> 01:00:09,737
I have raised my kids that way.
1434
01:00:09,772 --> 01:00:11,673
They know all about it.
1435
01:00:11,708 --> 01:00:12,674
Hi, Jade Bug.
1436
01:00:12,709 --> 01:00:13,675
Hi.
1437
01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:14,676
How was school?
1438
01:00:14,711 --> 01:00:16,843
That's my Jade Bug.
1439
01:00:16,878 --> 01:00:18,647
What are you 17 now?
1440
01:00:18,682 --> 01:00:19,780
Yeah.
1441
01:00:19,815 --> 01:00:21,210
By two years old,
1442
01:00:21,245 --> 01:00:23,212
she knew who Violent
J and Shaggy were.
1443
01:00:23,247 --> 01:00:25,280
We had a poster up, you're
like "Oh well who's that?"
1444
01:00:25,315 --> 01:00:26,380
"That's Violent J."
1445
01:00:26,415 --> 01:00:27,381
"And who's that?"
1446
01:00:27,416 --> 01:00:29,284
"That's Shaggy 2 Dope."
1447
01:00:29,319 --> 01:00:31,693
I'm glad that he's into
the same music I am or else
1448
01:00:31,728 --> 01:00:33,222
we would be butting
heads a lot with
1449
01:00:33,257 --> 01:00:36,126
how loud we play our music.
1450
01:00:36,161 --> 01:00:37,963
Zach's
birthday is today.
1451
01:00:37,998 --> 01:00:39,228
Same as Shaggy 2 Dope's.
1452
01:00:39,263 --> 01:00:41,197
And he just turned 15.
1453
01:00:41,232 --> 01:00:45,168
My dad bought me
tickets and a VIP pass
1454
01:00:45,203 --> 01:00:48,072
to the ICP concert
tomorrow night.
1455
01:00:50,076 --> 01:00:52,076
Yes, I'm extremely excited.
1456
01:00:52,111 --> 01:00:54,375
I can't really express
excitement though.
1457
01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:57,015
I don't know, it's kind of
a weird thing that I have.
1458
01:00:57,050 --> 01:00:58,687
How are you buddy?
1459
01:00:58,722 --> 01:01:00,348
Not bad,
how are you, Dad?
1460
01:01:00,383 --> 01:01:02,053
Cody is my oldest
one, he just turned 18.
1461
01:01:02,088 --> 01:01:02,922
How was school?
1462
01:01:02,957 --> 01:01:03,824
Not bad.
1463
01:01:04,893 --> 01:01:06,288
Me and Cody's mom had
1464
01:01:06,323 --> 01:01:09,258
like a one-time
deal after school.
1465
01:01:09,293 --> 01:01:13,262
I was only 15 at the
time and just stupid kid.
1466
01:01:13,297 --> 01:01:17,266
Young, dumb, full of come
kind of thing, you know?
1467
01:01:17,301 --> 01:01:19,136
And so she got knocked up.
1468
01:01:19,171 --> 01:01:22,205
I went over there one day and
she'd moved to California.
1469
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,274
Just didn't tell me or nothing
like that, just took off.
1470
01:01:25,309 --> 01:01:26,880
When he was about seven,
1471
01:01:26,915 --> 01:01:30,015
she decided to put
him into a boys' home.
1472
01:01:30,050 --> 01:01:32,116
Don't throw it too high.
1473
01:01:32,151 --> 01:01:33,986
She just
abandoned him.
1474
01:01:34,021 --> 01:01:36,417
Didn't come back and try and
visit him or nothing like that.
1475
01:01:36,452 --> 01:01:38,826
And they actually started
trying to work with me
1476
01:01:38,861 --> 01:01:40,729
to get custody of him.
1477
01:01:41,457 --> 01:01:42,764
I want my kids.
1478
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:44,359
I was raised without a dad
1479
01:01:44,394 --> 01:01:46,999
and I would never
do that to my kids.
1480
01:01:47,034 --> 01:01:48,770
Somewhere after about a year,
1481
01:01:48,805 --> 01:01:51,201
they finally sent
somebody out here
1482
01:01:51,236 --> 01:01:53,434
to come in, like inspect
your home and make sure
1483
01:01:53,469 --> 01:01:55,370
it's livable for him.
1484
01:01:55,405 --> 01:01:58,175
We invited this
lady into our house.
1485
01:01:58,210 --> 01:02:00,276
You see my living
room and stuff.
1486
01:02:00,311 --> 01:02:04,379
It has nothing to do with ICP.
It's totally family oriented.
1487
01:02:04,414 --> 01:02:08,251
Once I brought her into my
room and she saw, you know,
1488
01:02:08,286 --> 01:02:13,223
all of this and it was a bit
overwhelming for her, I think.
1489
01:02:15,062 --> 01:02:16,292
They flat out told me, no,
we're not going to give you
1490
01:02:16,327 --> 01:02:18,525
custody of your kid.
1491
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,804
I mean, my heart just dropped
to the floor, you know?
1492
01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:25,235
And then they told me why.
1493
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:28,942
I would portray possible
gang affiliations.
1494
01:02:34,884 --> 01:02:37,082
Man, it's just a straight
kick in the nuts.
1495
01:02:37,117 --> 01:02:40,085
You know, I really don't even
know how to describe that
1496
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,824
besides flat out, you
put me on the ground
1497
01:02:42,859 --> 01:02:44,892
and beat the hell out of me.
1498
01:02:44,927 --> 01:02:49,523
I'd much rather have that than
someone denying me my kid.
1499
01:02:52,528 --> 01:02:54,935
For most of my life, I
mainly felt like I was alone.
1500
01:02:54,970 --> 01:02:57,267
There was no one I could
talk to, not even therapists.
1501
01:02:57,302 --> 01:03:00,006
I've been in group homes
pretty much since I was six.
1502
01:03:00,041 --> 01:03:02,877
And my one shot at
getting out was him
1503
01:03:02,912 --> 01:03:05,572
and it was all just
vanished as soon as
1504
01:03:05,607 --> 01:03:07,178
they said that he
couldn't have it
1505
01:03:07,213 --> 01:03:10,247
all because of some ICP thing.
1506
01:03:10,282 --> 01:03:13,448
A group home is pretty much
where kids go who have been
1507
01:03:13,483 --> 01:03:17,254
labeled all these
labels like ADHD, PTSD.
1508
01:03:17,289 --> 01:03:19,322
Little kids to 18.
1509
01:03:19,357 --> 01:03:23,524
In a way it's kind of like
a leeway juvenile place.
1510
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:25,999
Due to some of it, I don't
think I was able to mature
1511
01:03:26,034 --> 01:03:29,530
as quickly as a lot of other
people, such as my sister,
1512
01:03:29,565 --> 01:03:33,237
who's always been around a
family member or has always had
1513
01:03:33,272 --> 01:03:36,878
someone there whenever
she needed to talk.
1514
01:03:40,015 --> 01:03:41,949
People are talking
about, well, why don't you
1515
01:03:41,984 --> 01:03:43,577
just get rid of the ICP stuff?
1516
01:03:43,612 --> 01:03:45,546
ICP is not the problem.
1517
01:03:47,187 --> 01:03:50,551
As it is now, he just turned 18.
1518
01:03:50,586 --> 01:03:53,026
I personally never
got custody of him.
1519
01:03:53,061 --> 01:03:55,193
Flip up a burger.
1520
01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:00,099
As we come around,
we got our VIP Faygos.
1521
01:04:00,134 --> 01:04:01,969
And the vest that I'm wearing
1522
01:04:02,004 --> 01:04:05,368
is actually Violent
J's vest that he wore.
1523
01:04:06,305 --> 01:04:08,173
Hello?
1524
01:04:08,208 --> 01:04:10,076
Hey man. Yeah, I'm doing an
interview right now, man.
1525
01:04:10,111 --> 01:04:12,474
Let me call you back.
1526
01:04:12,509 --> 01:04:14,410
What?
1527
01:04:14,445 --> 01:04:16,951
So my friend Kyle just called
up and said that the ICP show
1528
01:04:16,986 --> 01:04:19,888
in Mesa just got canceled.
1529
01:04:19,923 --> 01:04:22,451
This is my kids' first ICP show.
1530
01:04:24,961 --> 01:04:27,423
That's crushing right now.
1531
01:04:27,458 --> 01:04:29,062
We have no idea why yet.
1532
01:04:29,097 --> 01:04:30,998
Can I help you?
1533
01:04:31,033 --> 01:04:34,067
Yeah, I'm actually calling
about the ICP show tomorrow.
1534
01:04:34,102 --> 01:04:35,299
I heard he got canceled.
1535
01:04:35,334 --> 01:04:36,938
Is that correct?
1536
01:04:36,973 --> 01:04:38,599
Yes,
it has been canceled.
1537
01:04:38,634 --> 01:04:40,370
We were only told that because
of the logistical issues.
1538
01:04:40,405 --> 01:04:42,075
We're not told why.
1539
01:04:43,144 --> 01:04:45,210
All right, thank you much.
1540
01:04:46,411 --> 01:04:48,378
Well that's not very fair.
1541
01:04:48,413 --> 01:04:49,544
Maybe they
can use our tickets
1542
01:04:49,579 --> 01:04:51,447
for the Tuscon show.
1543
01:04:51,482 --> 01:04:54,054
Get ahold of the
promoter or something.
1544
01:04:54,089 --> 01:04:57,684
Fuzzy, I know, oh, I
can get a hold of Fuzzy.
1545
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:00,192
I have no idea who that is.
1546
01:05:00,227 --> 01:05:01,655
What
specifically are your concerns
1547
01:05:01,690 --> 01:05:04,064
about a group like
this coming here?
1548
01:05:04,099 --> 01:05:05,967
Violence.
1549
01:05:06,002 --> 01:05:07,595
The
concert is called Shockfest
1550
01:05:07,630 --> 01:05:10,433
and one of the headlining bands
is the Insane Clown Posse,
1551
01:05:10,468 --> 01:05:13,271
which is known for its
fans, the 'Juggaloos'.
1552
01:05:13,306 --> 01:05:17,176
A group designated
as a gang by the FBI.
1553
01:05:17,211 --> 01:05:21,114
♪ Where can I go they
don't want me no mo' ♪
1554
01:05:21,149 --> 01:05:25,349
♪ Where can I go they
don't want me no mo' ♪
1555
01:05:25,384 --> 01:05:27,021
People get most
of their information
1556
01:05:27,056 --> 01:05:28,451
about street gangs
from the media.
1557
01:05:28,486 --> 01:05:30,585
We're hardwired to pay
attention to threat.
1558
01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:34,193
And so the media uses that
to get audience share.
1559
01:05:34,228 --> 01:05:37,031
So they have an agenda to
find the most sensationalistic
1560
01:05:37,066 --> 01:05:39,396
stories to tell about
the street gangs.
1561
01:05:39,431 --> 01:05:41,200
A look at the Juggalos
1562
01:05:41,235 --> 01:05:43,103
and the danger they
present to Northern Nevada.
1563
01:05:43,138 --> 01:05:46,172
Come October 8th, 3,000
of them will be admitted
1564
01:05:46,207 --> 01:05:48,141
inside of these doors.
1565
01:05:48,176 --> 01:05:50,572
- According to one
city councilman,
violence is a concern.
1566
01:05:50,607 --> 01:05:52,244
We have
too much violence
1567
01:05:52,279 --> 01:05:53,443
in Fort Myers as it is.
1568
01:05:53,478 --> 01:05:55,082
Why do we want to add to it?
1569
01:05:55,117 --> 01:05:56,512
In an email, he wrote,
1570
01:05:56,547 --> 01:05:58,415
I Googled Juggalos and
did not like what I saw.
1571
01:05:58,450 --> 01:06:01,088
And
because this is a city facility,
1572
01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:03,189
the city council
could decide to cancel
1573
01:06:03,224 --> 01:06:05,158
the concert altogether.
1574
01:06:06,689 --> 01:06:09,624
We found a
spot in Kaiser, Missouri
1575
01:06:09,659 --> 01:06:11,461
for The Gathering.
1576
01:06:11,496 --> 01:06:14,002
The camp owners, they knew
exactly what the Juggalos were.
1577
01:06:14,037 --> 01:06:15,465
I didn't hold anything back.
1578
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:17,137
And mind you, Kaiser is
where the Hell's Angels
1579
01:06:17,172 --> 01:06:19,403
have held their
national biker rally.
1580
01:06:19,438 --> 01:06:23,110
And it's like, OK so Hell's
Angels are welcome, no problem.
1581
01:06:23,145 --> 01:06:24,606
The media caught wind of it.
1582
01:06:24,641 --> 01:06:26,674
It was generating all this fear.
1583
01:06:26,709 --> 01:06:29,380
And so you have all
these people in Kaiser,
1584
01:06:29,415 --> 01:06:30,711
they're just reading
the headlines
1585
01:06:30,746 --> 01:06:32,383
and they see Juggalos, gang.
1586
01:06:32,418 --> 01:06:34,682
Those two words side by side.
1587
01:06:34,717 --> 01:06:38,191
The townsfolk were actually
calling the camp owners
1588
01:06:38,226 --> 01:06:40,556
and saying they were arming
themselves, getting ready
1589
01:06:40,591 --> 01:06:42,459
for the gang to come in.
1590
01:06:44,529 --> 01:06:47,035
Like they thought Juggalos
were gonna come storming
1591
01:06:47,070 --> 01:06:49,235
in there and start destroying
1592
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:51,204
like roaming the
streets at night
1593
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:54,702
causing destruction
and havoc or something.
1594
01:07:00,182 --> 01:07:02,644
The campground owners pulled
the plug on the whole thing.
1595
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:06,681
And we were left without
a Gathering grounds.
1596
01:07:06,716 --> 01:07:07,814
We were crushed.
1597
01:07:07,849 --> 01:07:10,058
We absolutely were crushed.
1598
01:07:11,457 --> 01:07:13,259
Since the Juggalos were
first labeled as a gang,
1599
01:07:13,294 --> 01:07:15,393
more and more The
Gathering suffered.
1600
01:07:15,428 --> 01:07:17,791
Like last year we
ended up losing a lot.
1601
01:07:17,826 --> 01:07:19,760
- We lost a great deal of money.
1602
01:07:19,795 --> 01:07:23,071
I believe something along
the lines of $700,000.
1603
01:07:23,106 --> 01:07:24,468
Then it was reported
on the news that
1604
01:07:24,503 --> 01:07:26,371
we couldn't pay all the vendors
1605
01:07:26,406 --> 01:07:29,110
and we were having
financial problems.
1606
01:07:29,145 --> 01:07:32,212
We're not a multi-billion
dollar company, you know?
1607
01:07:32,247 --> 01:07:35,512
That's not like
a Pepsi's money that lost.
1608
01:07:35,547 --> 01:07:37,382
That's not Dorito's.
1609
01:07:37,417 --> 01:07:39,252
There is no corporate
sponsor to The Gathering.
1610
01:07:39,287 --> 01:07:42,420
That's fresh out of his
pocket and my pocket.
1611
01:07:42,455 --> 01:07:45,291
If The Gathering
tanks, we lose our ass.
1612
01:07:45,326 --> 01:07:47,227
You don't know what's going
to happen at The Gathering.
1613
01:07:47,262 --> 01:07:48,426
Is it going to get raided?
1614
01:07:48,461 --> 01:07:50,098
Everybody's talking about it.
1615
01:07:50,133 --> 01:07:51,363
I don't believe it
will ever happen,
1616
01:07:51,398 --> 01:07:53,629
but I wouldn't want it to happen
1617
01:07:53,664 --> 01:07:55,235
and it very much could.
1618
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:57,534
Retailers dropping
our line of merchandise
1619
01:07:57,569 --> 01:07:59,767
because it's gang paraphernalia.
1620
01:07:59,802 --> 01:08:02,143
We used to have such a
good working relationship
1621
01:08:02,178 --> 01:08:03,573
with Hot Topic.
1622
01:08:03,608 --> 01:08:06,312
And now, since the
gang thing came out,
1623
01:08:06,347 --> 01:08:08,479
they don't even carry us.
1624
01:08:08,514 --> 01:08:10,349
Dropped it.
1625
01:08:10,384 --> 01:08:11,746
It's really
fuckin' up our business, man.
1626
01:08:11,781 --> 01:08:13,847
My daughter's only seven.
1627
01:08:15,422 --> 01:08:17,389
And I have to maintain
this till she's 18.
1628
01:08:17,424 --> 01:08:19,259
I had to be able to
take care of her.
1629
01:08:19,294 --> 01:08:21,162
It gets harder and harder
every year, you know?
1630
01:08:21,197 --> 01:08:23,164
We got to keep staying relevant.
1631
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:25,562
Keep making the
right moves and plays
1632
01:08:25,597 --> 01:08:27,861
because we got a long way to go.
1633
01:08:27,896 --> 01:08:31,337
Like without this, I don't
know what I'd be doing.
1634
01:08:31,372 --> 01:08:32,239
You know?
1635
01:08:41,283 --> 01:08:42,546
One time, man,
I'm standing there and
1636
01:08:42,581 --> 01:08:44,185
I'm like in the front row.
1637
01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:46,418
I got hit with a full
two liter of Faygo
1638
01:08:46,453 --> 01:08:47,683
on top of my head, dude.
1639
01:08:47,718 --> 01:08:49,520
Almost knocked me the hell out.
1640
01:08:49,555 --> 01:08:51,390
I wasn't paying attention.
1641
01:08:51,425 --> 01:08:53,326
That sucker came right down
on top of my head, dude.
1642
01:08:53,361 --> 01:08:57,528
I got messed up, but then I
got a full Faygo out of it.
1643
01:08:57,563 --> 01:09:00,630
Oh, It's All Over,
that's a great song.
1644
01:09:00,665 --> 01:09:03,831
Do you guys know
this song at all?
1645
01:09:03,866 --> 01:09:08,605
♪ It's all over ♪
1646
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,740
♪ Here we go, in the air we go ♪
1647
01:09:11,775 --> 01:09:13,709
♪ Huh, walking along my path ♪
1648
01:09:13,744 --> 01:09:15,843
♪ The city has morphed
into a blood bath ♪
1649
01:09:15,878 --> 01:09:17,878
♪ Some are looting,
others shooting ♪
1650
01:09:17,913 --> 01:09:19,913
♪ The Devil's in the sky
and he's recruiting ♪
1651
01:09:19,948 --> 01:09:22,223
♪ Tornados twisting
through downtown ♪
1652
01:09:22,258 --> 01:09:24,357
♪ Throwing buses
and trucks around ♪
1653
01:09:24,392 --> 01:09:26,359
♪ Me, I climb the
roof of my house ♪
1654
01:09:26,394 --> 01:09:28,592
♪ Spread my arms out and sing ♪
1655
01:09:28,627 --> 01:09:33,630
♪ It's all over ♪
1656
01:09:34,732 --> 01:09:37,667
♪ Here we go, in the air we go ♪
1657
01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:39,768
What's up, homie?
1658
01:09:39,803 --> 01:09:40,901
You all right?
1659
01:09:40,936 --> 01:09:42,573
What's up, man?
1660
01:09:42,608 --> 01:09:43,574
These are
my kids right here.
1661
01:09:43,609 --> 01:09:44,707
Their first show.
1662
01:09:44,742 --> 01:09:46,577
I'm kind of nervous.
1663
01:09:46,612 --> 01:09:50,218
This shirt
had to be your dad's, right?
1664
01:09:50,253 --> 01:09:51,912
When a ninja comes up to us
1665
01:09:51,947 --> 01:09:55,289
and he chooses to tell
me about how the FBI
1666
01:09:55,324 --> 01:09:56,884
is fucking him up,
1667
01:09:56,919 --> 01:09:59,986
you feel like you can
save this kid somehow.
1668
01:10:00,021 --> 01:10:01,724
Or make things better.
1669
01:10:01,759 --> 01:10:04,595
That's hard to deal
with emotionally.
1670
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:06,234
Thank you, Chop.
1671
01:10:07,303 --> 01:10:08,302
That's fuckin' awesome, dude.
1672
01:10:08,337 --> 01:10:09,303
Thank you guys.
1673
01:10:09,338 --> 01:10:10,700
Have a good show.
1674
01:10:12,033 --> 01:10:13,637
First
time seeing ICP?
1675
01:10:13,672 --> 01:10:17,575
Oh man, my heart's
racing right now.
1676
01:10:17,610 --> 01:10:18,939
Two whoops.
1677
01:10:18,974 --> 01:10:20,512
You're giving us these?
1678
01:10:20,547 --> 01:10:21,909
I brought them for you guys.
1679
01:10:21,944 --> 01:10:23,548
This is awesome!
1680
01:10:25,046 --> 01:10:27,849
I have so much trouble
at meet and greets.
1681
01:10:27,884 --> 01:10:30,852
You know, I'm sweating under
the makeup the whole time.
1682
01:10:30,887 --> 01:10:32,623
What do you say to a
kid when he comes up
1683
01:10:32,658 --> 01:10:34,427
and peels his shirt
off and his whole back
1684
01:10:34,462 --> 01:10:36,792
is a big mural to your music?
1685
01:10:38,631 --> 01:10:39,993
Glad the music could be
there for you, brother.
1686
01:10:40,028 --> 01:10:41,665
Yeah, no doubt, man.
1687
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:44,635
What could you say
that's good enough?
1688
01:10:47,937 --> 01:10:49,607
It's just a lot, man.
1689
01:10:49,642 --> 01:10:50,806
You
know you worry a lot.
1690
01:10:50,841 --> 01:10:52,874
You think about your family.
1691
01:10:52,909 --> 01:10:55,349
It just takes a toll
on your brain, babe.
1692
01:10:55,384 --> 01:10:57,648
It gives me panic attacks.
1693
01:10:59,751 --> 01:11:01,487
I wouldn't want my worst enemy
1694
01:11:01,522 --> 01:11:03,885
to suffer from a panic attack.
1695
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,524
You're sitting there
watching TV, all of a sudden
1696
01:11:05,559 --> 01:11:08,021
you're about to
get hit by a train
1697
01:11:08,056 --> 01:11:10,595
and you don't know what the
fuck is causing the fear.
1698
01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:14,566
When you come out of it,
you're just exhausted.
1699
01:11:16,097 --> 01:11:17,800
Let's talk about something else.
1700
01:11:17,835 --> 01:11:18,702
Okay.
1701
01:11:21,872 --> 01:11:23,773
♪ Who loaned ya money,
homie, who owes ya cash ♪
1702
01:11:23,808 --> 01:11:26,347
♪ Who taught you how to
use a bong for the grass ♪
1703
01:11:26,382 --> 01:11:28,514
♪ I don't know much
but I gotta assume ♪
1704
01:11:28,549 --> 01:11:30,010
♪ When ya hit ya first neden ♪
1705
01:11:30,045 --> 01:11:31,715
♪ Ya homies was in
the other room ♪
1706
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:34,322
♪ We talkin' about
homies, homies ♪
1707
01:11:34,357 --> 01:11:35,785
I like
The Allman Brothers
1708
01:11:35,820 --> 01:11:37,490
and Earth, Wind & Fire
1709
01:11:37,525 --> 01:11:39,019
and Stevie Wonder.
1710
01:11:39,054 --> 01:11:42,660
The closest thing
to rebellious music
1711
01:11:42,695 --> 01:11:44,893
growing up was, uh, Aerosmith.
1712
01:11:46,831 --> 01:11:49,667
I don't listen to
Aerosmith anymore.
1713
01:11:49,702 --> 01:11:52,604
We filed our first
lawsuit the summer of 2012.
1714
01:11:52,639 --> 01:11:54,936
That lawsuit was
just to give the FBI
1715
01:11:54,971 --> 01:11:57,070
a chance to explain themselves.
1716
01:11:57,105 --> 01:11:59,347
They didn't really have
a good explanation.
1717
01:11:59,382 --> 01:12:00,777
Now the members of the
1718
01:12:00,812 --> 01:12:02,383
Insane Clown Posse
and several Juggalos
1719
01:12:02,418 --> 01:12:05,749
have partnered with the
ACLU to sue the FBI.
1720
01:12:05,784 --> 01:12:09,918
This morning, the ACLU
filed a federal lawsuit
1721
01:12:09,953 --> 01:12:11,920
against the
Department of Justice
1722
01:12:11,955 --> 01:12:15,561
and against the FBI
challenging the designation
1723
01:12:15,596 --> 01:12:18,927
of a musical fan base
as a criminal gang.
1724
01:12:20,865 --> 01:12:22,667
One thing
that we should get clear
1725
01:12:22,702 --> 01:12:24,867
right from the start,
organized crime has nothing
1726
01:12:24,902 --> 01:12:27,507
to do with the Juggalo culture.
1727
01:12:27,542 --> 01:12:29,674
Discrimination based
on the type of music
1728
01:12:29,709 --> 01:12:32,545
a person listens to
is flat out ridiculous
1729
01:12:32,580 --> 01:12:34,712
and un-American bull shit.
1730
01:12:36,584 --> 01:12:39,112
We are official
plaintiffs in a lawsuit
1731
01:12:39,147 --> 01:12:41,719
against the FBI officially.
1732
01:12:41,754 --> 01:12:44,458
We're going to war with the FBI.
1733
01:12:44,493 --> 01:12:47,824
ICP is not defendants
and it feels good.
1734
01:12:47,859 --> 01:12:49,727
You know what I'm saying?
1735
01:12:49,762 --> 01:12:53,764
It's like a fucking big-ass
cheer like.
1736
01:12:53,799 --> 01:12:55,733
The ACLU, they don't play.
1737
01:12:55,768 --> 01:12:59,770
And it's gotta be a real cause
for them to get involved.
1738
01:12:59,805 --> 01:13:02,036
The American
Civil Liberties Union
1739
01:13:02,071 --> 01:13:05,072
is the oldest and largest
organization in the country
1740
01:13:05,107 --> 01:13:08,515
dedicated to defending the
civil rights and civil liberties
1741
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:10,781
of all people in this country.
1742
01:13:10,816 --> 01:13:13,553
We work on a wide,
wide variety of cases,
1743
01:13:13,588 --> 01:13:16,721
including freedom of
speech, freedom of religion,
1744
01:13:16,756 --> 01:13:19,086
police misconduct,
voting rights,
1745
01:13:19,121 --> 01:13:21,891
rights of people of
color, rights of women,
1746
01:13:21,926 --> 01:13:24,498
rights of LGBT persons.
1747
01:13:24,533 --> 01:13:28,799
We are here to ensure
that our country lives up
1748
01:13:28,834 --> 01:13:33,034
to its values of freedom
and democracy and liberty.
1749
01:13:34,873 --> 01:13:38,479
I didn't initially see this
as being in any way comparable
1750
01:13:38,514 --> 01:13:41,680
to the other civil
rights cases we had.
1751
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:45,651
But the more I learned,
the more it reminded me
1752
01:13:45,686 --> 01:13:47,884
of many other of our cases.
1753
01:13:49,492 --> 01:13:51,525
And it wasn't just
about representing
1754
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,758
a bunch of people who
painted their face.
1755
01:13:53,793 --> 01:13:57,597
There was serious
constitutional issues at stake.
1756
01:13:57,632 --> 01:14:00,699
Throughout history,
there has always been
1757
01:14:00,734 --> 01:14:02,734
a tendency for the government
1758
01:14:02,769 --> 01:14:06,100
to want to suppress
controversial speech.
1759
01:14:07,708 --> 01:14:09,741
And that could be
speech from the left,
1760
01:14:09,776 --> 01:14:13,173
speech from the right,
speech from non-conformists.
1761
01:14:13,208 --> 01:14:16,550
That's why we have the
First Amendment to serve
1762
01:14:16,585 --> 01:14:19,146
as a check on abuse
of government.
1763
01:14:19,181 --> 01:14:21,951
Because of the First Amendment,
people in this country
1764
01:14:21,986 --> 01:14:24,019
can listen to whatever
music they want.
1765
01:14:24,054 --> 01:14:26,890
They can express themselves
the way they wish
1766
01:14:26,925 --> 01:14:29,695
without fear of
police harassment.
1767
01:14:29,730 --> 01:14:31,730
They can worship
the way they wish.
1768
01:14:31,765 --> 01:14:33,501
There's the right to protest.
1769
01:14:33,536 --> 01:14:36,064
There's a free press to report.
1770
01:14:36,099 --> 01:14:39,133
We need music that expresses
the times that we're happy.
1771
01:14:39,168 --> 01:14:41,641
We need music that expresses
at times that we're angry.
1772
01:14:41,676 --> 01:14:44,545
And ICP, they're doing
that for their fans.
1773
01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:46,943
And for me, it was Soundgarden
or Jane's Addiction
1774
01:14:46,978 --> 01:14:48,780
or Ice-T tea or NWA.
1775
01:14:48,815 --> 01:14:50,276
I mean that's the
time when I grew up.
1776
01:14:50,311 --> 01:14:51,684
But time and time again,
1777
01:14:51,719 --> 01:14:53,147
every 10, 15 years,
1778
01:14:53,182 --> 01:14:56,051
we find ourselves
in this situation.
1779
01:14:56,086 --> 01:14:58,922
♪ Fuck the police comin'
straight from the underground ♪
1780
01:14:58,957 --> 01:15:00,891
NWA
has taunted law enforcement
1781
01:15:00,926 --> 01:15:03,960
with its lyrics urging
violence against police.
1782
01:15:03,995 --> 01:15:07,062
FBI, how
did the FBI situation stuff?
1783
01:15:07,097 --> 01:15:09,295
There was one
guy that thought he would
1784
01:15:09,330 --> 01:15:10,769
write us a letter.
1785
01:15:10,804 --> 01:15:12,672
He's in Utah somewhere.
1786
01:15:12,707 --> 01:15:14,641
I guess he figured if sent
us a letter, we'd be like,
1787
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:16,005
oh, the FBI sent us a letter,
1788
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,073
let's stop writing
records and doing this.
1789
01:15:18,108 --> 01:15:21,076
The FBI just seems
to find itself once again
1790
01:15:21,111 --> 01:15:23,848
investigating
musicians, fan bases.
1791
01:15:23,883 --> 01:15:25,245
Whether it's John Lennon,
1792
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,622
the Deadheads or
KISS, they're wrong.
1793
01:15:31,627 --> 01:15:33,660
Certainly
fans of various groups
1794
01:15:33,695 --> 01:15:35,926
have been targeted
throughout history,
1795
01:15:35,961 --> 01:15:38,962
but I believe this
is unprecedented.
1796
01:15:43,298 --> 01:15:45,298
If we get removed
from the gang list,
1797
01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:48,037
I think everything will
go back to the way it was.
1798
01:15:48,072 --> 01:15:49,808
I believe that.
1799
01:16:01,382 --> 01:16:04,724
The judge
looked at it and said,
1800
01:16:04,759 --> 01:16:08,662
this ain't even worth going
to court, and threw it out.
1801
01:16:08,697 --> 01:16:10,191
The Detroit
based rap group known as
1802
01:16:10,226 --> 01:16:11,797
Insane Clown Posse
has been classified
1803
01:16:11,832 --> 01:16:13,293
as a gang by the feds.
1804
01:16:13,328 --> 01:16:14,899
And it's going to stay that way
1805
01:16:14,934 --> 01:16:17,902
according to a US
District Court judge.
1806
01:16:19,301 --> 01:16:22,137
♪ How many times will a
judge decide my fate? ♪
1807
01:16:22,172 --> 01:16:25,107
♪ Who is he, a bitch,
nothing great ♪
1808
01:16:25,142 --> 01:16:28,209
♪ He takes shits, and
fucks his old floppy wife ♪
1809
01:16:28,244 --> 01:16:31,619
♪ Plays with his balls
and judges my life ♪
1810
01:16:31,654 --> 01:16:34,952
They claimed that we
didn't have standing
1811
01:16:34,987 --> 01:16:36,591
to bring the case.
1812
01:16:37,957 --> 01:16:40,089
And the major argument was
1813
01:16:41,895 --> 01:16:43,928
the harms we were alleging,
1814
01:16:43,963 --> 01:16:46,326
for example, people
being pulled over
1815
01:16:46,361 --> 01:16:48,130
by the Tennessee police,
1816
01:16:48,165 --> 01:16:51,331
those were harms inflicted
by third parties.
1817
01:16:51,366 --> 01:16:53,971
Which is crazy because
they're doing that
1818
01:16:54,006 --> 01:16:56,941
because the fuckin'
FBI says we're a gang.
1819
01:16:56,976 --> 01:17:01,011
The FBI created
a gang list to inform
1820
01:17:01,046 --> 01:17:04,113
the actions of local
law enforcement.
1821
01:17:04,148 --> 01:17:09,151
It's obvious that local law
enforcement is going to react.
1822
01:17:10,759 --> 01:17:13,122
It's a sad, scary,
scary fuckin' thing.
1823
01:17:15,324 --> 01:17:18,732
The First Amendment
is a fundamental right
1824
01:17:18,767 --> 01:17:22,395
upon which many of our
other rights are based.
1825
01:17:23,464 --> 01:17:26,707
And if people in a free country
1826
01:17:26,742 --> 01:17:29,072
aren't able to
express themselves,
1827
01:17:29,107 --> 01:17:32,174
whether it's
politically or socially,
1828
01:17:34,178 --> 01:17:36,783
we do not live in a democracy.
1829
01:17:38,446 --> 01:17:41,788
Juggalos should not
be afraid to express
1830
01:17:41,823 --> 01:17:44,692
who they are in this country.
1831
01:17:44,727 --> 01:17:46,826
They have an absolute
right to do that
1832
01:17:46,861 --> 01:17:49,796
without fear of harassment.
1833
01:17:49,831 --> 01:17:54,427
- Insane Clown Posse, that name
induces laughter everywhere.
1834
01:17:54,462 --> 01:17:55,934
It's like, all right,
yeah, everybody knows
1835
01:17:55,969 --> 01:17:57,837
we're getting fucked with.
1836
01:17:57,872 --> 01:17:59,234
Everybody knows the FBI
is in their fuckin' courts
1837
01:17:59,269 --> 01:18:01,038
giving us the the
shit end of the stick.
1838
01:18:01,073 --> 01:18:02,875
One member of a
popular rap duo is facing
1839
01:18:02,910 --> 01:18:04,943
legal trouble for
a traffic stop.
1840
01:18:04,978 --> 01:18:06,109
His
drug screen came back
1841
01:18:06,144 --> 01:18:07,979
looking like a pharmacy.
1842
01:18:08,014 --> 01:18:10,982
Pain meds, muscle relaxers from
hydrocodone to amphetamine.
1843
01:18:11,017 --> 01:18:12,478
Shaggy 2
Dope attempted to drop kick
1844
01:18:12,513 --> 01:18:15,789
Fred Durst in the middle
of a Limp Bizkit show.
1845
01:18:15,824 --> 01:18:17,857
The
feds say both members of ICP
1846
01:18:17,892 --> 01:18:20,156
owe the IRS nearly $380,000.
1847
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,866
♪ I have a headache,
my brain feels dead ♪
1848
01:18:26,901 --> 01:18:28,769
You all right?
1849
01:18:28,804 --> 01:18:30,496
Yeah, man.
1850
01:18:30,531 --> 01:18:33,301
♪ I'm trying to hold myself
together, impossible task ♪
1851
01:18:33,336 --> 01:18:37,107
♪ My only question,
how long will I last ♪
1852
01:18:37,142 --> 01:18:38,977
79 criminal arrests
1853
01:18:39,012 --> 01:18:41,144
at the festival organized
by Insane Clown Posse.
1854
01:18:41,179 --> 01:18:43,883
A police officer was fired
for identifying as a Juggalo.
1855
01:18:43,918 --> 01:18:45,412
Suspects sporting t-shirts
1856
01:18:45,447 --> 01:18:47,821
with the Insane Clown
Posse are each charged
1857
01:18:47,856 --> 01:18:49,449
with two counts of rioting.
1858
01:18:49,484 --> 01:18:50,890
One
homeowner we spoke to called it
1859
01:18:50,925 --> 01:18:52,958
the concert from hell.
1860
01:18:52,993 --> 01:18:55,994
♪ I'm falling apart ♪
1861
01:18:58,427 --> 01:19:01,934
Now we've been through
a lot of shit over the years.
1862
01:19:01,969 --> 01:19:05,201
Motherfuckers have
been trying to stop us
1863
01:19:05,236 --> 01:19:07,500
since the inception of
Psychopathic Records
1864
01:19:07,535 --> 01:19:10,107
and the Juggalo family.
1865
01:19:10,142 --> 01:19:12,010
We got the FBI.
1866
01:19:12,045 --> 01:19:16,047
We got motherfuckers pulling
our fucking Gathering location
1867
01:19:16,082 --> 01:19:18,214
out from under us.
1868
01:19:18,249 --> 01:19:21,052
But will that fucking stop us?
1869
01:19:21,087 --> 01:19:22,152
No!
1870
01:19:24,024 --> 01:19:26,090
The FBI wants ICP dead.
1871
01:19:27,456 --> 01:19:31,359
Not only that, the FBI
wants you Juggalos dead.
1872
01:19:31,394 --> 01:19:33,460
But check this out right here.
1873
01:19:33,495 --> 01:19:36,034
We ain't never ever gonna die.
1874
01:19:36,069 --> 01:19:37,464
You motherfuckers!
1875
01:19:41,602 --> 01:19:43,437
Little bit louder!
1876
01:19:43,472 --> 01:19:44,339
Come on!
1877
01:19:46,211 --> 01:19:47,144
Here we go!
1878
01:19:48,114 --> 01:19:50,917
♪ Hey, yeah, yeah ♪
1879
01:19:57,420 --> 01:20:00,190
Family,
family, family.
1880
01:20:02,524 --> 01:20:05,932
Last night we
filed a 41 page brief
1881
01:20:05,967 --> 01:20:07,527
in the US Court of Appeals.
1882
01:20:07,562 --> 01:20:09,903
We're not asking
for a miracle here.
1883
01:20:09,938 --> 01:20:13,907
All we're asking is for the
judges to follow the law
1884
01:20:13,942 --> 01:20:16,877
and give the Juggalos
their day in court
1885
01:20:16,912 --> 01:20:18,846
so that justice may be served.
1886
01:20:18,881 --> 01:20:20,540
We'll get our day in court
in front of the Sixth Circuit.
1887
01:20:20,575 --> 01:20:24,082
I'd like to think that we'll
have a strong shot there.
1888
01:20:24,117 --> 01:20:26,315
And we're up talking
about whether or not
the federal courts
1889
01:20:26,350 --> 01:20:28,581
have the authority to
decide in this case,
1890
01:20:28,616 --> 01:20:31,892
what the heck the
Constitution means.
1891
01:20:33,962 --> 01:20:35,588
By designating
the Juggalos as a gang
1892
01:20:35,623 --> 01:20:38,558
and calling each of
the appellants that,
1893
01:20:38,593 --> 01:20:40,329
by implication, a gang member,
1894
01:20:40,364 --> 01:20:42,298
you've branded
them as criminals.
1895
01:20:42,333 --> 01:20:44,003
Doesn't the report
itself specifically say
1896
01:20:44,038 --> 01:20:46,269
that there's criminal
subsets of Juggalos?
1897
01:20:46,304 --> 01:20:48,942
The DOJ is not saying that
all Juggalos are gang members.
1898
01:20:48,977 --> 01:20:50,603
- That word subset does no work.
1899
01:20:50,638 --> 01:20:53,012
It is meaningless to
everybody involved here.
1900
01:20:53,047 --> 01:20:55,575
It's meaningless to the
law enforcement officers
1901
01:20:55,610 --> 01:20:57,511
who enforce the law and
that's what's most important.
1902
01:20:57,546 --> 01:21:00,217
It did nothing to save our
plaintiffs from suffering
1903
01:21:00,252 --> 01:21:03,088
law enforcement
and other actions.
1904
01:21:03,123 --> 01:21:04,958
So let me pause it,
I mean, is that-
1905
01:21:04,993 --> 01:21:06,388
- That was awesome.
1906
01:21:06,423 --> 01:21:07,521
That was very good.
1907
01:21:07,556 --> 01:21:09,424
That was great, yeah.
1908
01:21:09,459 --> 01:21:11,063
That made me feel like this
is totally different than
1909
01:21:11,098 --> 01:21:13,593
your average person
on the gang list.
1910
01:21:13,628 --> 01:21:18,136
In the morning, do I
actually remember to say that?
1911
01:21:26,707 --> 01:21:28,916
If we want
to get back in the game
1912
01:21:28,951 --> 01:21:31,644
and be able to prove that
the rights of Juggalos
1913
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:35,153
across the country were
violated, we need to win today.
1914
01:21:35,188 --> 01:21:38,519
So this is a critical
moment in the case.
1915
01:21:46,133 --> 01:21:47,231
Good
morning, your Honors
1916
01:21:47,266 --> 01:21:49,035
and may it please this court,
1917
01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:50,938
the Department of
Justice's hybrid gang rule
1918
01:21:50,973 --> 01:21:53,204
burdens the rights of
over a million people
1919
01:21:53,239 --> 01:21:55,140
in the Department of
Justice's own words,
1920
01:21:55,175 --> 01:21:57,604
based on the actions of a few.
1921
01:21:57,639 --> 01:21:59,276
Are you
disputing that some people
1922
01:21:59,311 --> 01:22:01,047
that self-identify as Juggalos
1923
01:22:01,082 --> 01:22:03,709
have done what this
assessment says that they do?
1924
01:22:03,744 --> 01:22:05,953
We're not
challenging the finding
1925
01:22:05,988 --> 01:22:08,186
that maybe eight people
someplace in Idaho
1926
01:22:08,221 --> 01:22:11,123
are acting as a criminal street
gang and bearing the name
1927
01:22:11,158 --> 01:22:14,027
Juggalo for reasons that
are out of our control.
1928
01:22:14,062 --> 01:22:17,558
There is no data to support
that this group is engaged in
1929
01:22:17,593 --> 01:22:19,197
criminal activity
because they're not.
1930
01:22:19,232 --> 01:22:20,627
Their primary purpose
is to be music fans
1931
01:22:20,662 --> 01:22:22,497
and the vast majority
are law abiding people.
1932
01:22:22,532 --> 01:22:24,301
Thank you, counsel.
1933
01:22:24,336 --> 01:22:27,073
May it please the
court, Lindsey Powell
1934
01:22:27,108 --> 01:22:28,536
for the federal defendants.
1935
01:22:28,571 --> 01:22:31,374
The 2011 report does not
state that all Juggalos
1936
01:22:31,409 --> 01:22:34,179
are gang members and no
legal consequences follow
1937
01:22:34,214 --> 01:22:35,576
from this report.
1938
01:22:35,611 --> 01:22:37,215
Not the be facetious,
1939
01:22:37,250 --> 01:22:39,085
but could you pass the
FBI background check
1940
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,120
and be in your job if you
were a member of the Juggalos?
1941
01:22:41,155 --> 01:22:43,287
Um, I-
1942
01:22:43,322 --> 01:22:46,158
- These third
parties told these folks
1943
01:22:46,193 --> 01:22:49,062
it was upon reliance
on this assessment
1944
01:22:49,097 --> 01:22:52,164
that they were taking the
actions that they were taking.
1945
01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:54,100
They say the police
officer came up to me
1946
01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:56,597
and I read your group is a
gang in the FBI assessment
1947
01:22:56,632 --> 01:22:59,006
and so I'm going to
detain you, search you,
1948
01:22:59,041 --> 01:23:00,733
whatever it is
they say they did.
1949
01:23:00,768 --> 01:23:02,669
It seems to me a little hard
for you to get around that.
1950
01:23:02,704 --> 01:23:05,210
It's simply
information being provided
1951
01:23:05,245 --> 01:23:08,180
for law enforcement entities
to use how they see fit.
1952
01:23:08,215 --> 01:23:11,018
Thank you, counsel.
1953
01:23:11,053 --> 01:23:12,745
Appreciate your arguments.
1954
01:23:12,780 --> 01:23:15,022
And the case will be submitted.
1955
01:23:15,057 --> 01:23:17,255
Saura
did an amazing job.
1956
01:23:17,290 --> 01:23:20,720
His arguments obviously
resonated with the
court of appeals
1957
01:23:20,755 --> 01:23:23,162
because we won unanimously.
1958
01:23:24,561 --> 01:23:25,791
♪ You know who
you fucking with ♪
1959
01:23:25,826 --> 01:23:29,531
♪ W-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-wicked
clowns ♪
1960
01:23:29,566 --> 01:23:34,107
♪ You know who
you fucking with ♪
1961
01:23:34,142 --> 01:23:36,736
♪ Wicked clowns, wicked clowns ♪
1962
01:23:36,771 --> 01:23:39,607
♪ Wicked clowns, wicked clowns
♪ ♪ Don't fuck with me ♪
1963
01:23:39,642 --> 01:23:42,247
♪ Wicked clowns, wicked clowns ♪
1964
01:23:42,282 --> 01:23:46,218
♪ Wicked clowns, wicked clowns ♪
1965
01:23:55,658 --> 01:23:57,526
The county
itself is the second largest
1966
01:23:57,561 --> 01:23:59,297
county in the state.
1967
01:23:59,332 --> 01:24:03,268
However, we're still
considered a rural community.
1968
01:24:03,303 --> 01:24:05,303
Farm community.
1969
01:24:05,338 --> 01:24:08,207
Predominantly Republican.
1970
01:24:08,242 --> 01:24:10,440
Midwest USA.
1971
01:24:10,475 --> 01:24:14,246
This is the Licking County
Common Police Court House.
1972
01:24:14,281 --> 01:24:18,646
Most people would just call
it simply the court house.
1973
01:24:18,681 --> 01:24:22,650
I mean, we have the
world's largest basket.
1974
01:24:47,842 --> 01:24:49,446
We have
everything from
1975
01:24:49,481 --> 01:24:50,810
the Grateful Dead
to Jimmy Buffet.
1976
01:24:50,845 --> 01:24:52,713
Lollapalooza was
here back in the day.
1977
01:24:52,748 --> 01:24:56,255
My wife and I have owned
it for the last 21 years.
1978
01:24:56,290 --> 01:24:58,356
And I saw that they
had lost their place
1979
01:24:58,391 --> 01:24:59,786
in Missouri, I think.
1980
01:24:59,821 --> 01:25:03,625
I'm all about giving
people second chances.
1981
01:25:07,532 --> 01:25:08,498
What up?
1982
01:25:08,533 --> 01:25:10,302
What up, son?
1983
01:25:10,337 --> 01:25:11,534
Whoop, whoop.
1984
01:25:12,867 --> 01:25:15,175
The
overall vibe is great.
1985
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:17,474
The comradery amongst each other
1986
01:25:17,509 --> 01:25:20,708
that can only be
described as euphoric.
1987
01:25:23,284 --> 01:25:25,647
We almost flipped this
bitch right there.
1988
01:25:25,682 --> 01:25:27,847
♪ On Juggalo Island ♪
1989
01:25:27,882 --> 01:25:32,258
♪ We can be one ♪
1990
01:25:32,293 --> 01:25:36,295
♪ Let our nuts
hang by the water ♪
1991
01:25:36,330 --> 01:25:37,395
♪ On Juggalo Island ♪
1992
01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:38,825
♪ We can have fun ♪
1993
01:25:38,860 --> 01:25:41,333
This is our
13th fucking Gathering.
1994
01:25:41,368 --> 01:25:44,633
Whoop, whoop,.
1995
01:25:44,668 --> 01:25:46,305
I know
that the community
1996
01:25:46,340 --> 01:25:47,372
raised some concerns
when they found out
1997
01:25:47,407 --> 01:25:49,572
they were coming here.
1998
01:25:49,607 --> 01:25:51,211
I got a lot of
pushback from the locals
1999
01:25:51,246 --> 01:25:54,280
and more pushback
from the state.
2000
01:25:54,315 --> 01:25:57,217
Well, they do their
internet research
2001
01:25:57,252 --> 01:25:58,911
like everybody else does.
2002
01:25:58,946 --> 01:26:01,716
And you hear the stories
and we've assured them
2003
01:26:01,751 --> 01:26:04,917
that we'll be providing
deputies inside the venue.
2004
01:26:04,952 --> 01:26:07,524
There's no law on the
books that say it's a crime
2005
01:26:07,559 --> 01:26:09,295
to be a gang member.
2006
01:26:12,630 --> 01:26:13,596
We do country shows.
2007
01:26:13,631 --> 01:26:15,268
We do the hippy shows.
2008
01:26:15,303 --> 01:26:16,269
And now this is the
first time we've had
2009
01:26:16,304 --> 01:26:17,897
the Juggalos out here.
2010
01:26:17,932 --> 01:26:19,734
And really, I think the hippies
are really the same thing.
2011
01:26:19,769 --> 01:26:22,242
It's just a little more tattoos,
a little more aggressive.
2012
01:26:22,277 --> 01:26:24,475
But other than that I've had a
good time out here with them.
2013
01:26:24,510 --> 01:26:26,675
It really shocked me because
everybody was telling us
2014
01:26:26,710 --> 01:26:27,940
it's gonna be all this and that.
2015
01:26:27,975 --> 01:26:29,381
I want a picture, man.
2016
01:26:29,416 --> 01:26:30,283
Can I get a picture?
2017
01:26:30,318 --> 01:26:31,185
Sure.
2018
01:26:32,617 --> 01:26:33,583
Thank you, man.
2019
01:26:33,618 --> 01:26:34,815
No problem, thank you.
2020
01:26:34,850 --> 01:26:35,684
Thanks a lot.
2021
01:26:35,719 --> 01:26:36,685
Thanks, buddy.
2022
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,555
Thank you, brother.
2023
01:26:38,590 --> 01:26:39,985
No real issues.
2024
01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:41,888
Not on our end.
2025
01:26:41,923 --> 01:26:43,758
For the most part, fans
seem to want to take care
2026
01:26:43,793 --> 01:26:47,366
of themselves, offering
out to help each other.
2027
01:26:47,401 --> 01:26:49,929
If you need more bread,
come back and see us, OK?
2028
01:26:49,964 --> 01:26:51,304
Appreciate you.
2029
01:26:51,339 --> 01:26:52,932
No problem, man.
2030
01:26:52,967 --> 01:26:56,276
Keep your homeys
hydrated too, all right?
2031
01:26:56,311 --> 01:26:57,640
Lot of Juggalos don't have much.
2032
01:26:57,675 --> 01:26:59,807
When they get
here, we feed them.
2033
01:26:59,842 --> 01:27:01,842
Hot dogs, we got water for them.
2034
01:27:01,877 --> 01:27:04,009
We've got about 800 or so
pounds of donated clothing
2035
01:27:04,044 --> 01:27:05,945
so far that people have brought.
2036
01:27:05,980 --> 01:27:09,388
We're just the part of the
family that likes to cook.
2037
01:27:09,423 --> 01:27:11,984
May we christen
this space our new home.
2038
01:27:12,019 --> 01:27:14,657
A place where we never
have to feel alone.
2039
01:27:14,692 --> 01:27:16,956
A place of love,
music and peace.
2040
01:27:16,991 --> 01:27:21,532
A time when we can cherish
and stress the least.
2041
01:27:21,567 --> 01:27:24,337
That is not gonna
happen, anyway.
2042
01:27:25,703 --> 01:27:27,571
Hey Kevin or Alan.
2043
01:27:27,606 --> 01:27:30,706
There's a bunch of ATF guys
that tried to get in here.
2044
01:27:30,741 --> 01:27:33,511
They're just gonna basically
go throughout the grounds,
2045
01:27:33,546 --> 01:27:36,349
giving out everybody the bone.
2046
01:27:36,384 --> 01:27:37,977
Well, the ATF,
2047
01:27:38,012 --> 01:27:40,287
the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco
and Firearms are outside
2048
01:27:40,322 --> 01:27:43,884
the back entrance to
the Gathering of the
Juggalos right now
2049
01:27:43,919 --> 01:27:46,458
which is on private property.
2050
01:27:48,088 --> 01:27:49,725
What I'm also
concerned about is that
2051
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,563
the ATF often
works with the FBI.
2052
01:27:52,598 --> 01:27:54,301
They can not come onto your
property without your consent,
2053
01:27:54,336 --> 01:27:57,700
without a search warrant
signed by a judge.
2054
01:27:57,735 --> 01:27:59,537
You guys rented
the venue from me,
2055
01:27:59,572 --> 01:28:01,605
but I'm not gonna
give them consent.
2056
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,541
But you're going to
explain everything?
2057
01:28:03,576 --> 01:28:04,971
I'm going to explain
it all to them.
2058
01:28:05,006 --> 01:28:05,972
So if you're ready
to go out there.
2059
01:28:06,007 --> 01:28:07,875
All right, let's do it.
2060
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:09,481
That's one of them right there?
2061
01:28:09,516 --> 01:28:10,911
Is that one of them
right there too?
2062
01:28:10,946 --> 01:28:12,913
I'm an attorney, I'd
like to speak to you.
2063
01:28:12,948 --> 01:28:14,486
You with the ATF?
2064
01:28:17,524 --> 01:28:18,886
Excuse me, sir.
2065
01:28:18,921 --> 01:28:20,327
I'm an attorney,
can I speak to you?
2066
01:28:20,362 --> 01:28:22,659
Are you with the ATF?
2067
01:28:22,694 --> 01:28:25,431
Are you a law enforcement agent?
2068
01:28:32,407 --> 01:28:34,605
Did he just flick us off?
2069
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,442
We should point out,
very unprofessionally,
2070
01:28:36,477 --> 01:28:38,741
one of them flicked
us off on his way out
2071
01:28:38,776 --> 01:28:41,381
after refusing to speak to me.
2072
01:28:43,484 --> 01:28:45,418
After an initial win
2073
01:28:45,453 --> 01:28:47,717
in the Sixth Circuit
Court of Appeals,
2074
01:28:47,752 --> 01:28:49,884
the case went back
to the trial court
2075
01:28:49,919 --> 01:28:52,359
for another motion to dismiss by
2076
01:28:52,394 --> 01:28:54,625
the FBI and the
Department of Justice.
2077
01:28:54,660 --> 01:28:56,528
And this time we lost.
2078
01:28:57,861 --> 01:28:59,795
Hold on, fuck you man.
2079
01:28:59,830 --> 01:29:02,633
And we went back up to
the US Court of Appeals
2080
01:29:02,668 --> 01:29:04,866
and we lost there as well.
2081
01:29:04,901 --> 01:29:05,867
Fuck you.
2082
01:29:05,902 --> 01:29:06,736
Wait a minute, what?
2083
01:29:06,771 --> 01:29:07,869
Fuck you.
2084
01:29:07,904 --> 01:29:09,904
The court held that
2085
01:29:09,939 --> 01:29:12,478
because local law enforcement
2086
01:29:13,844 --> 01:29:16,746
were not forced to
harass the Juggalos,
2087
01:29:16,781 --> 01:29:18,979
the FBI was not responsible
2088
01:29:19,014 --> 01:29:22,983
under the Administrative
Procedures Act.
2089
01:29:23,018 --> 01:29:24,919
When it gets thrown
out of court repeatedly,
2090
01:29:24,954 --> 01:29:26,855
how else are you
going to stand up?
2091
01:29:26,890 --> 01:29:27,889
What do you do?
2092
01:29:27,924 --> 01:29:28,923
You protest.
2093
01:29:31,125 --> 01:29:32,696
Thousands
of demonstrators assembled
2094
01:29:32,731 --> 01:29:35,127
in the nation's capital
for a mass protest.
2095
01:29:35,162 --> 01:29:36,997
The Lincoln
Memorial is forever enshrined
2096
01:29:37,032 --> 01:29:40,638
as a megaphone for the voice
of the American people.
2097
01:29:40,673 --> 01:29:43,608
From anti-war protests
to million man marches.
2098
01:29:43,643 --> 01:29:46,875
In this great
auditorium under the sky,
2099
01:29:46,910 --> 01:29:48,745
all of us are free.
2100
01:29:48,780 --> 01:29:49,746
They came from Los Angeles
2101
01:29:49,781 --> 01:29:51,044
and San Francisco.
2102
01:29:51,079 --> 01:29:53,519
They came from
Cleveland, from Chicago.
2103
01:29:53,554 --> 01:29:55,180
They came from
Jackson, Mississippi,
2104
01:29:55,215 --> 01:29:57,556
from Birmingham, Alabama.
2105
01:30:01,826 --> 01:30:03,727
♪ Smile, I'ma blow a
hole in your neck ♪
2106
01:30:03,762 --> 01:30:06,433
♪ And leave you standing there
looking stupid like Beck ♪
2107
01:30:06,468 --> 01:30:08,468
♪ Everybody jumps to
the Juggalo sound ♪
2108
01:30:08,503 --> 01:30:10,800
♪ Fuck outta here if you
ain't down with the clown ♪
2109
01:30:10,835 --> 01:30:13,066
♪ Everybody raised on
the East Side, rize ♪
2110
01:30:13,101 --> 01:30:15,607
♪ Everybody raised on
the West Side, rize ♪
2111
01:30:15,642 --> 01:30:17,873
♪ Everybody raised on
the North Side, rize ♪
2112
01:30:17,908 --> 01:30:19,039
♪ South Side, rize ♪
2113
01:30:19,074 --> 01:30:20,711
♪ Everybody, rize ♪
2114
01:30:20,746 --> 01:30:22,713
♪ Everybody raised on
the East Side, rize ♪
2115
01:30:22,748 --> 01:30:25,045
♪ Everybody raised on
the West Side, rize ♪
2116
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,487
♪ Everybody raised on
the North Side, rize ♪
2117
01:30:27,522 --> 01:30:28,719
♪ South Side, rize ♪
2118
01:30:28,754 --> 01:30:31,458
♪ Everybody, rize ♪
2119
01:30:31,493 --> 01:30:34,593
Discrimination.
2120
01:30:34,628 --> 01:30:35,495
Fuck that.
2121
01:30:40,161 --> 01:30:42,469
You're making history
2122
01:30:42,504 --> 01:30:44,900
and you know damn
well in your hearts,
2123
01:30:44,935 --> 01:30:47,969
we're the good guys here today.
2124
01:30:48,004 --> 01:30:51,170
I'm not gay, but I
would fuckin' march
2125
01:30:51,205 --> 01:30:53,205
for the right for two
gay people to marry
2126
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,845
each other if they wanted.
2127
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,519
In the eyes of Juggalos,
there's no such thing as a VIP.
2128
01:30:59,554 --> 01:31:01,587
We're all very important.
2129
01:31:05,153 --> 01:31:07,890
Let's march, motherfuckers!
2130
01:31:07,925 --> 01:31:10,695
♪ Calling the Juggalo a
gang banger, outrageous ♪
2131
01:31:10,730 --> 01:31:13,500
♪ Pulling ninjas over
whipping out gauges ♪
2132
01:31:13,535 --> 01:31:15,799
♪ And the judge slams
down the hammers ♪
2133
01:31:15,834 --> 01:31:18,604
♪ To the big house now
for you gang banger ♪
2134
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:21,035
♪ If we let this be,
we'll be face to face ♪
2135
01:31:21,070 --> 01:31:23,807
♪ With one man as he
dictates the human race ♪
2136
01:31:23,842 --> 01:31:26,040
♪ Mr. FBI, Mr. Officer ♪
2137
01:31:26,075 --> 01:31:28,779
♪ Tell me why you want
me in coffin sir ♪
2138
01:31:28,814 --> 01:31:31,551
♪ Is it because we like to
hang out and be scrubs ♪
2139
01:31:31,586 --> 01:31:34,048
♪ Must be thugs out
here peddling drugs ♪
2140
01:31:34,083 --> 01:31:36,281
♪ Well let me tell ya,
all that meddling does ♪
2141
01:31:36,316 --> 01:31:39,526
♪ Is make us wanna leave
you embedded in slugs ♪
2142
01:31:39,561 --> 01:31:41,088
♪ Free speech motherfucker ♪
2143
01:31:41,123 --> 01:31:42,254
♪ You can hurt our name ♪
2144
01:31:42,289 --> 01:31:44,861
♪ You can't salt our game ♪
2145
01:31:44,896 --> 01:31:47,259
♪ Fuck you and your claim ♪
2146
01:31:47,294 --> 01:31:50,702
♪ We don't bang, we're family ♪
2147
01:31:50,737 --> 01:31:52,704
I've got a
picture hanging in my studio,
2148
01:31:52,739 --> 01:31:54,838
holding my kid's
hands, marching.
2149
01:31:54,873 --> 01:31:56,202
That was like hands down,
2150
01:31:56,237 --> 01:31:59,106
probably the greatest
day of my life.
2151
01:31:59,141 --> 01:32:00,272
And there were people there
2152
01:32:00,307 --> 01:32:02,142
that aren't even Juggalos.
2153
01:32:02,177 --> 01:32:04,749
They were there because
they heard what was going on
2154
01:32:04,784 --> 01:32:06,586
and they knew it was bullshit.
2155
01:32:06,621 --> 01:32:07,950
Straight up.
2156
01:32:07,985 --> 01:32:09,149
And they were there
enough to march.
2157
01:32:09,184 --> 01:32:11,052
That was America, man.
2158
01:32:14,255 --> 01:32:17,091
We asked the people
at the National Mall
2159
01:32:17,126 --> 01:32:19,665
since we have the day secured
and we have our stage set up,
2160
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:21,733
could we perform there?
2161
01:32:21,768 --> 01:32:24,670
And they were like, sure,
as long as you don't swear
2162
01:32:24,705 --> 01:32:26,672
or throw any Faygo.
2163
01:32:26,707 --> 01:32:27,805
You know what I mean?
2164
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,840
And we're like, we got you.
2165
01:32:29,875 --> 01:32:32,579
♪ Cut a motherfucking
chicken up, what ♪
2166
01:32:32,614 --> 01:32:33,877
♪ Who's going chicken huntin' ♪
2167
01:32:33,912 --> 01:32:35,142
♪ We's goin' chicken huntin' ♪
2168
01:32:35,177 --> 01:32:36,649
♪ Who's going chicken huntin' ♪
2169
01:32:36,684 --> 01:32:38,013
♪ We's goin' chicken huntin' ♪
2170
01:32:38,048 --> 01:32:39,586
♪ Who's going chicken huntin' ♪
2171
01:32:39,621 --> 01:32:41,016
♪ We's goin' chicken huntin' ♪
2172
01:32:41,051 --> 01:32:44,217
♪ Cut a motherfucking
chicken up, what ♪
2173
01:32:44,252 --> 01:32:48,958
Be proud, we
made motherfucking history!
2174
01:32:48,993 --> 01:32:49,860
Juggalos!
2175
01:32:56,363 --> 01:32:59,265
There was a lot of press
coverage for that march.
2176
01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:01,168
And strongly in our favor.
2177
01:33:01,203 --> 01:33:02,906
Everybody pretty much agrees.
2178
01:33:02,941 --> 01:33:04,809
Everybody's like yes,
that's definitely
2179
01:33:04,844 --> 01:33:06,712
some bullshit right there.
2180
01:33:06,747 --> 01:33:09,077
The government stating
your fans are a gang
2181
01:33:09,112 --> 01:33:11,915
is undoubtedly bullshit.
2182
01:33:11,950 --> 01:33:14,621
But so is your music, you know.
2183
01:33:15,415 --> 01:33:17,217
That hasn't changed,
2184
01:33:17,252 --> 01:33:19,384
but that's another march.
2185
01:33:19,419 --> 01:33:21,155
- Even though
technically we're
still on the list,
2186
01:33:21,190 --> 01:33:23,157
now the normal person
that hears about ICP
2187
01:33:23,192 --> 01:33:24,928
being linked with gang stuff.
2188
01:33:24,963 --> 01:33:26,831
To them, it's almost
laughable now.
2189
01:33:26,866 --> 01:33:29,262
It's like, come on these
kids are not gang members.
2190
01:33:29,297 --> 01:33:32,133
We stood
up as far as we could.
2191
01:33:32,168 --> 01:33:34,003
And we said we're not a gang.
2192
01:33:34,038 --> 01:33:37,677
In our eyes, we feel
like we won that shit.
2193
01:33:37,712 --> 01:33:41,109
I think the
best evidence of the success
2194
01:33:41,144 --> 01:33:45,278
of the case is the complaints
that we've been receiving
2195
01:33:45,313 --> 01:33:48,215
about harassment by local police
2196
01:33:48,250 --> 01:33:50,822
have dwindled to almost none.
2197
01:33:54,157 --> 01:33:56,025
To express their appreciation,
2198
01:33:56,060 --> 01:33:59,127
I even got an invitation
to Hallowicked.
2199
01:33:59,162 --> 01:34:03,637
They invited us onstage to
spray Faygo on the crowd.
2200
01:34:05,234 --> 01:34:09,137
I put a clown mask on and
actually went out and did it.
2201
01:34:09,172 --> 01:34:13,911
But I got out quickly cause
I was getting really sticky.
2202
01:34:18,148 --> 01:34:21,116
This is a case that
could go to the Supreme Court.
2203
01:34:21,151 --> 01:34:22,249
This is a case that
is important enough
2204
01:34:22,284 --> 01:34:23,987
to go to the Supreme Court.
2205
01:34:24,022 --> 01:34:26,352
If the government can
target a group of people
2206
01:34:26,387 --> 01:34:28,420
based on their musical taste,
2207
01:34:28,455 --> 01:34:30,730
they can target
of group of people
2208
01:34:30,765 --> 01:34:32,831
based on any reason at all.
2209
01:34:32,866 --> 01:34:34,096
I work for an
insurance company.
2210
01:34:34,131 --> 01:34:35,130
I'm a carpenter.
2211
01:34:35,165 --> 01:34:36,098
A college graduate.
2212
01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:37,231
An IT guy.
2213
01:34:37,266 --> 01:34:39,134
A Juris Doctorate graduate.
2214
01:34:39,169 --> 01:34:41,169
I help train soldiers,
federal first responders,
2215
01:34:41,204 --> 01:34:42,808
Department of Homeland Security.
2216
01:34:42,843 --> 01:34:45,712
I wanna grow up
to be a teacher.
2217
01:34:45,747 --> 01:34:48,946
The FBI designation
was unprecedented.
2218
01:34:48,981 --> 01:34:50,376
And it's a bad precedent.
2219
01:34:50,411 --> 01:34:51,278
I'm a veteran.
2220
01:34:51,313 --> 01:34:53,181
I'm a soldier.
2221
01:34:53,216 --> 01:34:54,985
I'm vice president of the
Desert Storm War Memorial.
2222
01:34:55,020 --> 01:34:57,251
- I'm a Juggalo, also a father.
2223
01:34:57,286 --> 01:34:58,153
I'm a brother.
2224
01:34:58,188 --> 01:34:59,792
And a husband.
2225
01:34:59,827 --> 01:35:01,222
The First
Amendment guarantees
2226
01:35:01,257 --> 01:35:03,829
the right to freedom
of speech that serves
2227
01:35:03,864 --> 01:35:07,030
as the foundation for
all the other freedoms
2228
01:35:07,065 --> 01:35:08,735
we have in this country.
2229
01:35:08,770 --> 01:35:09,868
And I'm not a gang member.
2230
01:35:09,903 --> 01:35:11,067
Definitely not gang members.
2231
01:35:11,102 --> 01:35:12,233
I am not a gang member.
2232
01:35:12,268 --> 01:35:13,498
I am not a gang member.
2233
01:35:13,533 --> 01:35:15,742
I am not a gang member.
2234
01:35:17,273 --> 01:35:18,844
Without
these freedoms,
2235
01:35:18,879 --> 01:35:21,946
we are not the United
States of America.
2236
01:35:23,543 --> 01:35:26,016
We
got one more for ya.
2237
01:35:26,051 --> 01:35:29,250
We going out with a
motherfucking bang.
2238
01:35:32,387 --> 01:35:33,254
And a pow.
2239
01:35:39,097 --> 01:35:40,030
And a boom.
2240
01:35:43,497 --> 01:35:45,068
Come along!
2241
01:35:45,103 --> 01:35:48,137
♪ With a bang, say
goodbye to everything ♪
2242
01:35:48,172 --> 01:35:51,140
♪ Your complete annihilation
is the reason he came ♪
2243
01:35:51,175 --> 01:35:52,779
♪ And a pow ♪
2244
01:35:52,814 --> 01:35:54,440
♪ He's wiping everything out ♪
2245
01:35:54,475 --> 01:35:57,179
♪ Turn your whole fucking
world into a mushroom cloud ♪
2246
01:35:57,214 --> 01:35:58,851
♪ And a boom ♪
2247
01:35:58,886 --> 01:36:00,347
♪ It's your inevitable doom ♪
2248
01:36:00,382 --> 01:36:03,922
♪ Nobody escapes and
everybody's consumed ♪
2249
01:36:03,957 --> 01:36:06,386
♪ Welcome to the Dark
Carnival Supershow ♪
2250
01:36:06,421 --> 01:36:08,025
♪ You're our specially
invited guests ♪
2251
01:36:08,060 --> 01:36:10,060
♪ And I'll tell you what fo' ♪
2252
01:36:10,095 --> 01:36:12,865
♪ Cuz you're the
evilest pedophiles,
rapists and abusers ♪
2253
01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:15,934
♪ All together we've got
fifty thousand of you losers ♪
2254
01:36:15,969 --> 01:36:18,497
♪ You're all about to
witness an incredible sight ♪
2255
01:36:18,532 --> 01:36:20,400
♪ Nobody's ever lived
to tell about it ♪
2256
01:36:20,435 --> 01:36:22,237
♪ And don't think you might ♪
2257
01:36:22,272 --> 01:36:24,844
♪ It's about to rain
flames, frames and brains ♪
2258
01:36:24,879 --> 01:36:28,177
♪ To be blown into pieces
is the reason you came ♪
2259
01:36:28,212 --> 01:36:30,850
♪ Racists, bigots, wife-beaters,
judges and cowards ♪
2260
01:36:30,885 --> 01:36:33,952
♪ All crowded together,
expecting a show
and some dollars ♪
2261
01:36:33,987 --> 01:36:35,822
♪ But instead the shit
you're gonna see ♪
2262
01:36:35,857 --> 01:36:37,582
♪ You'll fear it in Hell ♪
2263
01:36:37,617 --> 01:36:40,156
♪ It's a constant explosion,
see and feel it you shall ♪
2264
01:36:40,191 --> 01:36:41,421
♪ With a bang ♪
2265
01:36:41,456 --> 01:36:43,324
♪ Say goodbye to everything ♪
2266
01:36:43,359 --> 01:36:46,096
♪ Your complete annihilation
is the reason he came ♪
2267
01:36:46,131 --> 01:36:47,493
♪ And a pow ♪
2268
01:36:47,528 --> 01:36:49,363
♪ He's wiping everything out ♪
2269
01:36:49,398 --> 01:36:52,135
♪ Turn your whole fucking
world into a mushroom cloud ♪
2270
01:36:52,170 --> 01:36:53,598
♪ And a boom ♪
2271
01:36:53,633 --> 01:36:55,303
♪ It's your inevitable doom ♪
2272
01:36:55,338 --> 01:36:58,603
♪ Nobody escapes and
everybody's consumed ♪
2273
01:36:58,638 --> 01:37:01,441
♪ In the deserts of Nevada,
where nothing else matter ♪
2274
01:37:01,476 --> 01:37:03,014
♪ It's the perfect
place for you ♪
2275
01:37:03,049 --> 01:37:04,345
♪ And your intestines
to splatter ♪
2276
01:37:04,380 --> 01:37:06,083
♪ And while bang, pow, boom ♪
2277
01:37:06,118 --> 01:37:07,546
♪ Steady stomps you all out ♪
2278
01:37:07,581 --> 01:37:10,582
♪ You in the hail for
the nuclear fallout ♪
2279
01:37:10,617 --> 01:37:12,518
♪ With the snakes and
fakes, creepy sneaks ♪
2280
01:37:12,553 --> 01:37:14,124
♪ Hoods and crooks,
horny freaks ♪
2281
01:37:14,159 --> 01:37:15,620
♪ Shady ladies, Evil Ernies ♪
2282
01:37:15,655 --> 01:37:17,556
♪ Richie Richs and
Charley Cheaps ♪
2283
01:37:17,591 --> 01:37:19,624
♪ Bang, pow, boom, they
say the show is the bomb ♪
2284
01:37:19,659 --> 01:37:21,263
♪ I heard it's
straight up explosive ♪
2285
01:37:21,298 --> 01:37:23,133
♪ Some even call it napalm ♪
2286
01:37:23,168 --> 01:37:24,563
♪ Nobody battles back,
this ain't no kind of war ♪
2287
01:37:24,598 --> 01:37:26,565
♪ It's a one-way execution ♪
2288
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,007
♪ Blow you straight to
hell through the floor ♪
2289
01:37:29,042 --> 01:37:32,142
♪ What the fuck you think you
here for, sound the alarm ♪
2290
01:37:32,177 --> 01:37:33,979
♪ Ladies and gentlemen,
eat shit and die ♪
2291
01:37:34,014 --> 01:37:35,178
♪ Let's bring him on ♪
2292
01:37:35,213 --> 01:37:36,608
♪ With a bang ♪
2293
01:37:36,643 --> 01:37:38,511
♪ Say goodbye to everything ♪
2294
01:37:38,546 --> 01:37:41,217
♪ Your complete annihilation
is the reason he came ♪
2295
01:37:41,252 --> 01:37:42,647
♪ And a pow ♪
2296
01:37:42,682 --> 01:37:44,517
♪ He's wiping everything out ♪
2297
01:37:44,552 --> 01:37:47,520
♪ Turn your whole fucking
world into a mushroom cloud ♪
2298
01:37:47,555 --> 01:37:48,895
♪ And a boom ♪
2299
01:37:48,930 --> 01:37:50,523
♪ It's your inevitable doom ♪
2300
01:37:50,558 --> 01:37:53,394
♪ Nobody escapes and
everybody's consumed ♪
2301
01:37:53,429 --> 01:37:54,967
♪ The air is thick with sick ♪
2302
01:37:55,002 --> 01:37:57,134
♪ From demented
brains and thoughts ♪
2303
01:37:57,169 --> 01:37:59,301
♪ But here they are
all together, every
one of them caught ♪
2304
01:37:59,336 --> 01:38:02,502
♪ This is a celebration, in
that the Carnival's cheering ♪
2305
01:38:02,537 --> 01:38:05,505
♪ It's not too often bang, pow,
boom, makes and appearance ♪
2306
01:38:05,540 --> 01:38:08,475
♪ And the winds in the sky
will carry away all the ash ♪
2307
01:38:08,510 --> 01:38:11,676
♪ But for now let us enjoy
the big back-splash ♪
2308
01:38:11,711 --> 01:38:13,249
♪ With a bang ♪
2309
01:38:13,284 --> 01:38:15,152
♪ Say goodbye to everything ♪
2310
01:38:15,187 --> 01:38:17,649
♪ Your complete annihilation
is the reason he came ♪
2311
01:38:17,684 --> 01:38:19,255
♪ And a pow ♪
2312
01:38:19,290 --> 01:38:21,125
♪ He's wiping everything out ♪
2313
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,996
♪ Turn your whole fucking
world into a mushroom cloud ♪
2314
01:38:24,031 --> 01:38:25,393
♪ And a boom ♪
2315
01:38:25,428 --> 01:38:27,098
♪ It's your inevitable doom ♪
2316
01:38:27,133 --> 01:38:30,200
♪ Nobody escapes and
everybody's consumed ♪
2317
01:38:30,235 --> 01:38:31,465
♪ With a bang ♪
2318
01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:33,368
♪ Say goodbye to everything ♪
2319
01:38:33,403 --> 01:38:36,140
♪ Your complete annihilation
is the reason he came ♪
2320
01:38:36,175 --> 01:38:37,537
♪ And a pow ♪
2321
01:38:37,572 --> 01:38:39,407
♪ He's wiping everything out ♪
2322
01:38:39,442 --> 01:38:42,344
♪ Turn your whole fucking
world into a mushroom cloud ♪
2323
01:38:42,379 --> 01:38:43,675
♪ And a boom ♪
2324
01:38:43,710 --> 01:38:45,413
♪ It's your inevitable doom ♪
2325
01:38:45,448 --> 01:38:50,319
♪ Nobody escapes and
everybody's consumed ♪
2326
01:38:52,686 --> 01:38:57,029
We fuckin'
love you, Juggalos!
2327
01:38:57,064 --> 01:38:58,129
Whoop, whoop!
2328
01:39:01,299 --> 01:39:03,970
I appreciate you guys coming
in and videotaping this.
2329
01:39:04,005 --> 01:39:05,598
Hopefully there'll be
a little truth come out
2330
01:39:05,633 --> 01:39:09,470
and not just the dipshittery
that we're known for.
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