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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,505 --> 00:00:06,589 I've never even heard of anything like this. 2 00:00:06,590 --> 00:00:08,049 Nev... Never even heard of it. 3 00:00:08,050 --> 00:00:09,091 It's ingenious. 4 00:00:09,092 --> 00:00:11,260 It's-it's mind-boggling. 5 00:00:11,261 --> 00:00:14,222 What makes it romantic 6 00:00:14,223 --> 00:00:17,433 is the thievery behind it. 7 00:00:19,436 --> 00:00:23,190 - This is the story of a conniving, creative, 8 00:00:23,899 --> 00:00:28,319 intelligent man committing frauds that were fairy-tale like. 9 00:00:30,864 --> 00:00:34,283 - Blanchard is probably the savviest criminal mind 10 00:00:34,284 --> 00:00:36,452 I've ever experienced as a police officer. 11 00:00:36,453 --> 00:00:37,870 - He's a professional. 12 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:39,205 He looks like my doctor. 13 00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:48,548 - He was like a James Bond kinda guy on the other side of the fence. 14 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:52,468 - He's been committing crime his entire life and never getting caught. 15 00:00:52,469 --> 00:00:55,304 - It sounds like the script from a Hollywood movie, 16 00:00:55,305 --> 00:00:57,265 from bank robbery and fraud 17 00:00:57,266 --> 00:01:00,644 to stealing a diamond broach from an Austrian museum. 18 00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:04,522 - Okay, this precious, uh, piece of jewelry was, uh, stolen, 19 00:01:04,523 --> 00:01:06,941 but at least by somebody like James Bond. 20 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:13,030 Mr. Blanchard ranks at the very top. 21 00:01:13,031 --> 00:01:16,409 There have been more factually complex cases, 22 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:20,706 but none quite as bizarre and entertaining 23 00:01:21,456 --> 00:01:24,375 and unusual as Mr. Blanchard. 24 00:01:53,739 --> 00:01:56,825 The son I raised is very caring. 25 00:01:57,993 --> 00:02:01,955 He's very loving to the people that are important to him. 26 00:02:03,207 --> 00:02:05,500 He has a lot of skills 27 00:02:05,501 --> 00:02:10,088 that had he not put them towards a life of crime, 28 00:02:10,714 --> 00:02:13,758 he could have been extremely successful 29 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:15,928 in whatever he chose to do. 30 00:02:17,679 --> 00:02:19,639 For sure I take pride in what I've done. 31 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:22,308 My story's probably very fascinating 32 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:26,646 because everyone wishes they could do the things that I've done 33 00:02:26,647 --> 00:02:28,941 or go do these James Bond 007s. 34 00:02:30,567 --> 00:02:33,653 My son has had a lot of things to overcome. 35 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:37,740 He had learning disabilities, borderline dyslexia. 36 00:02:37,741 --> 00:02:38,950 When you were a little kid, 37 00:02:38,951 --> 00:02:42,119 people dream of robbing banks or making all this money 38 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,915 and living the lifestyle that I've lived. 39 00:02:45,791 --> 00:02:49,502 So I think it's a fantasy that most people have, 40 00:02:49,503 --> 00:02:53,047 but they actually never executed it like I did. 41 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:01,848 - If he'd have told me that he was gonna be 42 00:03:01,849 --> 00:03:04,434 a mastermind international thief, 43 00:03:05,561 --> 00:03:09,356 I would've just, pfft, blown it off and go, "Yeah, sure you are." 44 00:03:09,898 --> 00:03:11,357 You know, "Okay, kid." 45 00:03:11,358 --> 00:03:15,736 But he's always been, you know, as you say, a little guy. 46 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:17,406 He looks like a nerd. 47 00:03:18,282 --> 00:03:19,407 You know? 48 00:03:19,408 --> 00:03:20,867 He looks like a nerd. 49 00:03:25,914 --> 00:03:28,916 - When I was a kid I was very quiet and I kept to myself, 50 00:03:28,917 --> 00:03:32,503 and I studied electronics and took things apart. 51 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,967 Everyone knew me. 52 00:03:37,968 --> 00:03:40,469 They knew my street name as MacGyver. 53 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:43,014 I would build like little electronic contraptions 54 00:03:43,015 --> 00:03:47,393 and because I would always do these little jokes with other students. 55 00:03:48,770 --> 00:03:51,981 So I was adopted at six days old by my mother, Carol. 56 00:03:53,358 --> 00:03:55,611 When my mother and stepfather broke up, 57 00:03:57,112 --> 00:04:00,281 we went from this very nice house in Canada 58 00:04:00,282 --> 00:04:03,327 to basically being poor in Omaha, Nebraska. 59 00:04:06,705 --> 00:04:09,999 Omaha, Nebraska, it's not the nicest place to live. 60 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,836 It's actually one of the worst, and only the strongest survive. 61 00:04:15,506 --> 00:04:17,382 I remember from early childhood 62 00:04:17,883 --> 00:04:19,759 when the bank was trying to foreclose on the house 63 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,553 that my mother and I and my sister lived in. 64 00:04:22,554 --> 00:04:25,223 I remember my mother crying talking to the bank 65 00:04:25,224 --> 00:04:27,558 saying she would make payments and the bank didn't care. 66 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:31,855 So I've always had this grudge against the banks. 67 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:35,983 We didn't have milk for the cereal, and I'm not exaggerating, 68 00:04:35,984 --> 00:04:39,153 like, I used to use like, ginger ale for milk. 69 00:04:39,154 --> 00:04:40,405 That's how bad it was. 70 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:43,033 So I had to go steal milk from the neighbors. 71 00:04:44,159 --> 00:04:46,453 He never stole milk. 72 00:04:47,037 --> 00:04:52,458 I mean, that's part of his story, but they did steal penny candy 73 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:56,128 and they got walked right back to the store to return it. 74 00:04:56,129 --> 00:05:02,051 So, those kinds of stories I think are just enhanced stories. 75 00:05:03,512 --> 00:05:05,555 - Things weren't good for us 76 00:05:05,556 --> 00:05:10,184 until I learned to go into the store and I could steal food from the store, 77 00:05:10,185 --> 00:05:13,354 which got my addiction to my life of crime. 78 00:05:17,234 --> 00:05:18,484 It's a police officer. 79 00:05:19,945 --> 00:05:21,737 Are you video recording me? 80 00:05:21,738 --> 00:05:22,739 Yep. 81 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:25,208 You said there's a police officer? 82 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:27,076 - He wasn't shy about it. 83 00:05:27,077 --> 00:05:29,370 He'd tell the kids in class what he was doin'. 84 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:30,538 Record me. 85 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:31,372 I am recording you. 86 00:05:31,373 --> 00:05:32,456 You are? CLAY: Yep. 87 00:05:32,457 --> 00:05:33,777 Damn, a police officer. 88 00:05:35,794 --> 00:05:36,711 Bless you. 89 00:05:36,712 --> 00:05:38,004 Anyways... 90 00:05:38,005 --> 00:05:38,922 Excuse me, sir. 91 00:05:39,756 --> 00:05:40,590 Yes? 92 00:05:40,591 --> 00:05:42,300 - Do you give lots of tickets for speeding? 93 00:05:42,301 --> 00:05:44,260 I think he definitely liked the attention 94 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:47,764 from cameras and stuff that people our age just did not have. 95 00:05:48,765 --> 00:05:49,599 Thank you. 96 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,474 I'll see you later. 97 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:54,228 And here goes Dan running because he stole a map. 98 00:05:56,481 --> 00:06:00,318 - Well, like I say, I documented my whole life from back in the '80s 99 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:02,278 when the VHS video cameras were out 100 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,946 way back in the day, the big ones. 101 00:06:03,947 --> 00:06:08,618 And I documented my whole entire life so I could look back and watch things. 102 00:06:08,619 --> 00:06:09,827 - No, get away from me! 103 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:11,746 People knowing, you know, 104 00:06:11,747 --> 00:06:14,749 talking about what he did, he liked that attention. 105 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:18,461 - This was his way to make, make him known, make himself known. 106 00:06:20,506 --> 00:06:22,674 Gangs were super prevalent. 107 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:27,220 And he had a little, I think it was a slight speech impediment 108 00:06:27,221 --> 00:06:29,931 and with his thick glasses, 109 00:06:29,932 --> 00:06:31,265 you just would think 110 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:34,269 that th-this little scrawny white kid's gonna get killed. 111 00:06:35,479 --> 00:06:38,439 Going to a school that's really tough, 112 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,734 you have to, like, make a name for yourself 113 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:44,403 in order to be accepted around peers around. 114 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:47,866 How-how you feel starin'-starin' at the barrel of a... gun? 115 00:06:48,992 --> 00:06:50,994 - He could move in and out of these circles, 116 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:54,497 and everybody had a certain respect for him. 117 00:06:54,498 --> 00:06:57,750 So he created an individual identity, 118 00:06:57,751 --> 00:07:01,171 and that identity is the one that he carried through. 119 00:07:02,381 --> 00:07:05,259 Uh, I'm gonna say the life of crime that he was living. 120 00:07:06,176 --> 00:07:08,302 - Hey, look, she's busy. - Danny. 121 00:07:08,303 --> 00:07:09,513 - Clay, you smoke, don't you? 122 00:07:11,974 --> 00:07:13,392 Hurry up, man. 123 00:07:13,976 --> 00:07:15,101 - Shh. 124 00:07:24,278 --> 00:07:25,445 He's coming now. 125 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:29,366 Oh. 126 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:33,536 I had to run out and check the gas. 127 00:07:36,164 --> 00:07:37,290 - Where'd those cigarettes go? 128 00:07:37,291 --> 00:07:38,624 - Oh, you put those cigarettes up there. 129 00:07:40,711 --> 00:07:42,963 Remember, you stacked them up there? 130 00:07:44,798 --> 00:07:45,631 So... 131 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:48,260 - Why are you two laughing? 132 00:07:49,553 --> 00:07:51,012 - Well, I don't know. 133 00:07:51,013 --> 00:07:54,057 - Clay, these immature girls don't know anything, like... 134 00:07:55,726 --> 00:07:57,101 Back in the early days, 135 00:07:57,102 --> 00:07:59,438 I was stealing from the stores and it was all a play. Like, 136 00:08:00,522 --> 00:08:02,231 you have someone go talk to someone, 137 00:08:02,232 --> 00:08:05,109 you distract this person, you steal this, and then you could go sell it, 138 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:07,696 and it was a challenge to see if you could get away with it. 139 00:08:08,405 --> 00:08:09,615 And I was pretty good at it. 140 00:08:10,449 --> 00:08:12,617 - After he would pull somethin' off, 141 00:08:12,618 --> 00:08:15,620 it was just like, uh, elation almost. 142 00:08:15,621 --> 00:08:19,248 And you could see it just in his eyes, almost what he lived for I think, 143 00:08:19,249 --> 00:08:24,462 and his drug was the thrill of... getting caught. 144 00:08:24,463 --> 00:08:28,966 ♪ Been Caught Stealing by Jane's Addiction playing ♪ 145 00:08:28,967 --> 00:08:30,594 Let's get the shoplifter here. 146 00:08:31,512 --> 00:08:32,387 - Please. 147 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:34,680 What's up? 148 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:36,390 - I couldn't believe some of the things he pulled off. 149 00:08:36,391 --> 00:08:37,309 They were amazing. 150 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:41,812 - ♪ And I walk right through the door... ♪ 151 00:08:41,813 --> 00:08:42,939 He likes excitement 152 00:08:42,940 --> 00:08:44,524 and he likes doing stuff 153 00:08:44,525 --> 00:08:47,236 right underneath your nose when you're least expecting it. 154 00:08:48,654 --> 00:08:50,947 We looked for trouble to find excitement 155 00:08:50,948 --> 00:08:54,534 because... you know, the normal life wasn't that exciting. 156 00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:57,954 They got a security camera 157 00:08:57,955 --> 00:08:59,247 even doesn't work. 158 00:08:59,248 --> 00:09:00,581 It's not fake. 159 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:03,125 It was jewelry, silk shirts, 160 00:09:03,126 --> 00:09:07,171 cell phones just coming, and pagers being out there. 161 00:09:07,172 --> 00:09:09,006 RadioShack was sort of like a go-to place. 162 00:09:11,426 --> 00:09:14,011 Just the idea of walking in there, 163 00:09:14,012 --> 00:09:15,388 distracting the salesman 164 00:09:15,389 --> 00:09:18,307 and havin' a eight-millimeter camera underneath both armpits, 165 00:09:18,308 --> 00:09:19,601 underneath the bomber jacket. 166 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:22,603 Pretty evident even from an early stage 167 00:09:22,604 --> 00:09:24,856 that he was gonna be, uh, 168 00:09:24,857 --> 00:09:27,024 what I would call, like, a master thief. 169 00:09:27,025 --> 00:09:28,234 Look at that butt. 170 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:31,238 - Yeah, all those girls like that butt. That's the thing about it. 171 00:09:32,531 --> 00:09:35,032 - ♪ Walk right through the door ♪ 172 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:38,661 - It seemed like he wasn't satisfied, um, 173 00:09:38,662 --> 00:09:42,291 and he wanted to take more and more risks, um, 174 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:46,794 and not just, you know, shoplifting something. 175 00:09:46,795 --> 00:09:48,462 - ♪ The best stuff ever ♪ 176 00:09:48,463 --> 00:09:49,881 Brought to you by RadioShack. 177 00:09:49,882 --> 00:09:52,508 Put the whole world in your hand, 178 00:09:52,509 --> 00:09:55,303 with RadioShack's new portable cellular phone. 179 00:09:55,304 --> 00:09:56,429 A price and technology... 180 00:09:56,430 --> 00:09:57,890 Stop, I'm getting sucked in. 181 00:09:58,432 --> 00:10:01,642 Back in the '80s, RadioShack was like the Best Buy. 182 00:10:01,643 --> 00:10:04,228 It was like, the number one store in North America. 183 00:10:04,229 --> 00:10:05,313 I'm a fugitive. 184 00:10:05,314 --> 00:10:06,731 Freeze, or else I'm gonna blow you. 185 00:10:08,192 --> 00:10:11,360 We literally took so much stuff from that store. 186 00:10:11,361 --> 00:10:13,196 Millions of dollars every year. 187 00:10:13,197 --> 00:10:15,698 It's a nice, strong motor. 188 00:10:15,699 --> 00:10:17,700 - Yep. This here, trying to steal them all. 189 00:10:17,701 --> 00:10:20,703 And what ended up happening was Easter Sunday, 190 00:10:20,704 --> 00:10:22,998 we actually cleared out the whole entire store. 191 00:10:24,041 --> 00:10:27,418 We, like, disconnected the alarm, took everything out with a moving truck. 192 00:10:30,547 --> 00:10:32,257 I just became too confident. 193 00:10:35,886 --> 00:10:37,595 I was at work, 194 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:40,349 and when the SWAT team showed up at my house 195 00:10:41,225 --> 00:10:44,393 and broke in my front door with their battering ram... 196 00:10:45,229 --> 00:10:48,773 - my son called me and he goes, "Mom, you might wanna come home." 197 00:10:48,774 --> 00:10:51,485 He said, "The police just broke in the front door." 198 00:10:52,319 --> 00:10:53,862 And I was like, "What?" 199 00:10:54,696 --> 00:10:55,530 He said, "Yeah." 200 00:10:55,531 --> 00:10:57,574 He said, "I'm sure they're here to arrest me." 201 00:11:01,703 --> 00:11:04,622 My house was a chaotic mess. 202 00:11:04,623 --> 00:11:07,041 It looked like a tornado went through everything 203 00:11:07,042 --> 00:11:09,377 and dumped every drawer everywhere. 204 00:11:09,378 --> 00:11:12,171 I mean, underwear drawers. Hello? 205 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:16,676 What electronics is some woman gonna keep in her underwear drawer, really? 206 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:19,303 Well, we won't talk about that. 207 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:24,684 Race played a big part. 208 00:11:24,685 --> 00:11:27,103 I was the white kid that went to school, 209 00:11:27,104 --> 00:11:30,773 and in the court system when they see this little kid, 210 00:11:30,774 --> 00:11:33,192 "Oh, he stole some stuff from RadioShack. 211 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:34,277 "Let's give them probation 212 00:11:34,278 --> 00:11:36,822 versus sending him off to juvenile school," 213 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:38,615 it helped a lot. 214 00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:46,497 It's recording? CLAY: Yep. 215 00:11:46,498 --> 00:11:47,624 - Hi, my name's Dan. 216 00:11:48,792 --> 00:11:52,421 I got back. It's, uh, 22nd of 217 00:11:53,589 --> 00:11:56,174 um... October. 218 00:11:56,175 --> 00:11:58,926 The 2nd of October. This is a commitment. 219 00:11:58,927 --> 00:12:01,304 I'm stayin' outta trouble, and Clay's gonna make sure. 220 00:12:01,305 --> 00:12:02,723 Alright. Thank you. 221 00:12:05,267 --> 00:12:06,434 Hi, Mom. 222 00:12:06,435 --> 00:12:07,685 Aren't you glad I'm home? 223 00:12:07,686 --> 00:12:09,312 - I'm thrilled to death. Hi. 224 00:12:09,313 --> 00:12:11,689 - If I happen to die, anything it's all up to my mom. 225 00:12:11,690 --> 00:12:14,150 If I owe any-any money, tough luck. 226 00:12:15,152 --> 00:12:16,986 Who knows what might happen? - What do you mean... 227 00:12:16,987 --> 00:12:21,282 I mean, I didn't know what to do. I was totally dumbfounded. 228 00:12:21,283 --> 00:12:26,704 I could not even fathom that my son 229 00:12:26,705 --> 00:12:29,707 was this person they were talking about. 230 00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:32,628 He ended up living a double life. 231 00:12:33,337 --> 00:12:38,258 So he kept that life away from his family, the people he cared about. 232 00:12:38,926 --> 00:12:42,845 - I ended up getting probation for, like, two years for this. 233 00:12:42,846 --> 00:12:46,015 My probation officer knew about my past. 234 00:12:46,016 --> 00:12:50,604 He worked with a lotta kids in my school, and he basically said, "Look, 235 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:55,274 can I have some stuff from RadioShack?" 236 00:13:07,663 --> 00:13:09,622 - I thought for sure that he would straighten up, 237 00:13:09,623 --> 00:13:12,375 but, of course, he couldn't let it go. 238 00:13:12,376 --> 00:13:13,918 He had to keep on doing it. 239 00:13:15,796 --> 00:13:18,422 - And he just becomes smarter and better and bigger. 240 00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:21,884 We saw him remove parts off of a cash register 241 00:13:21,885 --> 00:13:24,720 to fabricate receipts that were so authentic 242 00:13:24,721 --> 00:13:28,308 that the stores could not tell that they were a fake receipt. 243 00:13:30,060 --> 00:13:31,978 We were coming back from Kansas City. 244 00:13:31,979 --> 00:13:35,314 Uh, we had a carload of stolen merchandise, 245 00:13:35,315 --> 00:13:36,983 and, of course, we get pulled over 246 00:13:36,984 --> 00:13:41,654 and, uh, asked to come in for questioning, and he had receipts for everything. 247 00:13:42,906 --> 00:13:45,491 Figured out a way to make far more money off that stuff 248 00:13:45,492 --> 00:13:48,160 by returning it right back to the places he took it from, 249 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:49,078 and they gave him money for it. 250 00:13:49,079 --> 00:13:50,079 It was just shocking. 251 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,205 What time is it? 252 00:13:51,206 --> 00:13:52,415 - It's Gucci time. 253 00:13:52,416 --> 00:13:54,959 I would keep everything away from my mom. 254 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,838 I kept stuff in the lockers at the school, at friend's house, in storage lockers. 255 00:13:59,923 --> 00:14:01,340 We're gonna make some money here, Dylan. 256 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:02,301 - I know. 257 00:14:03,093 --> 00:14:04,177 What do you say about that, Mom? 258 00:14:04,178 --> 00:14:05,262 Are you down with that? 259 00:14:06,013 --> 00:14:07,138 - Wrong way. 260 00:14:07,139 --> 00:14:08,472 No, we're doing it the right way. 261 00:14:08,473 --> 00:14:10,391 Wrong... PHEGLY: No, the sign says, "Wrong way." 262 00:14:10,392 --> 00:14:13,186 Oh. 263 00:14:14,771 --> 00:14:17,565 But she would always see me with cars coming to the house 264 00:14:17,566 --> 00:14:19,859 with boxes of merchandise and I would just tell her, 265 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:21,777 "Oh, I'm-I'm reselling stuff 266 00:14:21,778 --> 00:14:24,155 that I bought at an auction or at a garage sale," 267 00:14:24,156 --> 00:14:25,114 stuff like that. 268 00:14:25,115 --> 00:14:27,283 He would fill up U-Haul trailers 269 00:14:27,284 --> 00:14:30,620 sometimes full of merchandise and return 'em 270 00:14:30,621 --> 00:14:33,039 all around the country for cash. 271 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,625 - On a bad week we make about $4,000. 272 00:14:35,626 --> 00:14:38,503 On a good week we make about seven, $8,000. 273 00:14:38,504 --> 00:14:39,337 Oh. 274 00:14:39,338 --> 00:14:42,006 A few good holiday seasons, 275 00:14:42,007 --> 00:14:46,093 he was approaching sometimes six figures 276 00:14:46,094 --> 00:14:48,096 of monetary gains. 277 00:14:49,348 --> 00:14:52,517 He went from a small-town little thief 278 00:14:52,518 --> 00:14:55,228 to a money-making machine type deal. 279 00:14:55,229 --> 00:14:59,023 - Open a wallet and you got a hundred... You know, ten $100 bills in there. 280 00:14:59,024 --> 00:15:00,858 You-you're popular all of a sudden. 281 00:15:00,859 --> 00:15:02,735 When you make money like I do, 282 00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:03,694 you could buy anything you want. 283 00:15:03,695 --> 00:15:06,113 ♪ Hip-hop music playing ♪ 284 00:15:06,114 --> 00:15:08,157 - ♪ Get hip to it, it's a hit ♪ 285 00:15:08,158 --> 00:15:09,951 - One of these days I'm gonna own this place. 286 00:15:09,952 --> 00:15:10,869 I'll buy it. 287 00:15:12,204 --> 00:15:15,623 I had close to 90, $100,000 stored up. 288 00:15:15,624 --> 00:15:18,376 On the backside of our house, we had these concrete bricks 289 00:15:18,377 --> 00:15:19,794 that are two feet by two feet. 290 00:15:19,795 --> 00:15:22,505 I would lift up this brick and I'd put the money in garbage bags, 291 00:15:22,506 --> 00:15:26,008 and I dug a hole through the sand, put the bags in there, 292 00:15:26,009 --> 00:15:30,346 put the sand on top and drop the concrete brick back on top. 293 00:15:30,347 --> 00:15:33,224 I ended up buying a house at the age of 16. 294 00:15:33,225 --> 00:15:35,977 My mom was really surprised when I told her I bought the house, 295 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:39,355 and I explained to her that I bought it through a friend 296 00:15:39,356 --> 00:15:43,025 and I basically said, "My friend and I are splitting the mortgage cost." 297 00:15:43,026 --> 00:15:44,278 And it felt good. 298 00:15:45,237 --> 00:15:49,031 I didn't have to worry about money 'cause I had plenty. 299 00:15:49,032 --> 00:15:52,661 You work hard, ladies and gentlemen, you can buy anything. 300 00:15:53,537 --> 00:15:55,122 Come on in. 301 00:15:56,373 --> 00:15:57,833 Look at our new kitchen. 302 00:15:58,584 --> 00:16:01,210 Stove came from Mrs. B's. 303 00:16:01,211 --> 00:16:04,130 The dishwasher came from Nebraska Furniture Mart. 304 00:16:04,131 --> 00:16:07,509 These cupboards were designed by somebody, I don't know who. 305 00:16:08,427 --> 00:16:12,180 I think Danny progressed to a crazy level. 306 00:16:12,181 --> 00:16:15,474 It was fun initially, but became very dangerous and dark, 307 00:16:15,475 --> 00:16:17,853 uh, towards the end of our relationship. 308 00:16:18,645 --> 00:16:21,105 And even not with the thefts, uh, 309 00:16:21,106 --> 00:16:24,400 even in the street world with gang members 310 00:16:24,401 --> 00:16:28,905 and other ways of trying to launder money, and, uh... 311 00:16:28,906 --> 00:16:32,450 It got to the point where I pretty much thought 312 00:16:32,451 --> 00:16:34,493 that he wasn't gonna be around anymore. 313 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:35,912 That fuckin' pig. 314 00:16:35,913 --> 00:16:37,456 Omaha fucking Police. 315 00:16:38,332 --> 00:16:40,166 Look at that fuckin' pig. 316 00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:44,003 I think the anger comes from being disrespected. 317 00:16:44,004 --> 00:16:46,672 Everyone should be respected no matter what, 318 00:16:46,673 --> 00:16:50,010 but when someone outright disrespects you, then you have a problem with it. 319 00:16:50,761 --> 00:16:52,513 Or at least I have a problem with it, 320 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,641 and I'll make you pay for it. 321 00:16:57,226 --> 00:16:59,977 For an example, a friend of mine set his car on fire 322 00:16:59,978 --> 00:17:01,812 to collect on insurance. 323 00:17:01,813 --> 00:17:04,190 - Yeah, You know, what it comes down to is, uh, 324 00:17:04,191 --> 00:17:07,109 I-I helped Dan, uh, dispose of a stolen car. 325 00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:10,404 And you don't realize 326 00:17:10,405 --> 00:17:14,867 when you put ten gallons of gas on a car, how big of a fire bomb it actually makes. 327 00:17:17,329 --> 00:17:20,081 And a police officer was nearby. 328 00:17:20,082 --> 00:17:21,499 And we both could've walked away 329 00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:23,042 and it would've been no big deal, 330 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:25,586 but, uh, he chose to confront the police 331 00:17:25,587 --> 00:17:27,296 and tried to talk himself out of it, 332 00:17:27,297 --> 00:17:29,466 and it didn't work out very well for him. 333 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:33,302 - I immediately recognized the kid as, uh, as Blanchard, 334 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:34,637 'cause I've had past dealings with him. 335 00:17:34,638 --> 00:17:36,264 He was like, "Hey, what are you doing here?" 336 00:17:36,265 --> 00:17:38,558 I'm like, "I don't know, some car's on fire." 337 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,435 - And as I get closer to him, I could smell gasoline from him. 338 00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:43,062 - I was watching him from afar 339 00:17:43,063 --> 00:17:45,982 and at the time something must have blew up in the car. 340 00:17:45,983 --> 00:17:47,733 The gas tank or somethin' blew up. 341 00:17:50,904 --> 00:17:53,948 And at that point in time, Dan was in handcuffs immediately, 342 00:17:53,949 --> 00:17:56,659 and the cop knew he was up to somethin', so... 343 00:17:58,328 --> 00:17:59,996 Oh, it was comical. 344 00:17:59,997 --> 00:18:01,163 They brought me to the police station 345 00:18:01,164 --> 00:18:04,417 and the police officer totally disrespected me, 346 00:18:04,418 --> 00:18:06,752 and I knew I was smarter than him. 347 00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:08,004 I knew I was better than him. 348 00:18:08,005 --> 00:18:09,173 - I hop in the car, um, 349 00:18:09,798 --> 00:18:12,758 turned the scanner on, and I hear, "Suspect escaped from custody." 350 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:16,054 I'm like, "What? Escaped from custody?" 351 00:18:16,805 --> 00:18:17,638 That's about right. 352 00:18:23,061 --> 00:18:25,897 - More or less the police walked outta the interrogation room 353 00:18:25,898 --> 00:18:29,108 probably to regroup 'cause this kid's outsmartin' them. 354 00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:32,278 And in that course of time, yeah, he got up on the table like we're standin' 355 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:33,988 and scuffles way up of a false ceiling, 356 00:18:33,989 --> 00:18:37,158 put the ceiling pad back and he was up on the ceiling the entire time. 357 00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:38,910 I can see, like, the whole ceiling 358 00:18:38,911 --> 00:18:39,994 of the police department. 359 00:18:39,995 --> 00:18:42,038 I'm up there and then I hear the detective come, 360 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:44,082 and he was like, "Oh, shit!" 361 00:18:44,708 --> 00:18:45,708 And we hear just, you know, 362 00:18:45,709 --> 00:18:47,376 some loud footsteps coming down the stairs 363 00:18:47,377 --> 00:18:49,128 and, uh, it's Detective Lieber. 364 00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:50,796 "Did you see him? Where'd he go?" 365 00:18:50,797 --> 00:18:53,132 And we're like, "Wh-what do you mean? Who you talking about?" 366 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:55,301 "Blanchard. He's gone. He's-he's gone!" 367 00:18:55,302 --> 00:18:57,553 - Me being a kid, not very smart, 368 00:18:57,554 --> 00:19:01,015 I was circling the police station thinkin' Dan's gonna jump out of a bush 369 00:19:01,016 --> 00:19:03,309 and hop in the car and I can help him escape, 370 00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:04,936 and that didn't work out either for me. 371 00:19:07,231 --> 00:19:08,856 And they come back to the room, 372 00:19:08,857 --> 00:19:11,151 like, 30 minutes later with my friend Jeff. 373 00:19:11,735 --> 00:19:13,236 And his exact words were, 374 00:19:13,237 --> 00:19:16,155 "I came here to help him get away." 375 00:19:16,156 --> 00:19:18,950 And I was like, "Wow. My friend's, like, really solid." 376 00:19:18,951 --> 00:19:21,118 We're searching for hours for Blanchard in the area, 377 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,662 and we're getting tired, gettin' worn out. 378 00:19:22,663 --> 00:19:25,122 At one point somebody calls, one of the supervisors calls and says, 379 00:19:25,123 --> 00:19:26,833 "Okay, we're-we're just gonna have to call it for the night." 380 00:19:26,834 --> 00:19:29,752 - He had the patience to hang out there in the ceiling until everybody went home. 381 00:19:31,588 --> 00:19:34,799 They shut down the police shop, and then another fun night for him 382 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,427 as he got to explore the inside of a police department, 383 00:19:38,428 --> 00:19:40,471 where no one's allowed all on his own. 384 00:19:42,891 --> 00:19:45,351 And the detective that insulted me, 385 00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:48,187 I took his gun, his badge, his walkie-talkie, 386 00:19:48,188 --> 00:19:50,773 the pictures of his wife and kids off of his desk, 387 00:19:50,774 --> 00:19:52,441 his Rolodex file, 388 00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:54,820 and I took a bullet out of his gun, 389 00:19:55,821 --> 00:19:59,574 put a happy face on it and stuck it right on the middle of his desk. 390 00:19:59,575 --> 00:20:00,825 Took his police jacket, 391 00:20:00,826 --> 00:20:04,579 put all the stuff in the police duffel bag and walked out of the police station. 392 00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:08,416 Then I thought, there's no way the police 393 00:20:08,417 --> 00:20:10,751 would go to my mom's house to arrest me. 394 00:20:10,752 --> 00:20:12,379 Why would I be so stupid? 395 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:16,007 But that's what I did. I went to my mom's house. 396 00:20:16,008 --> 00:20:19,844 - He was wore out, he was tired, and that is his weak point. 397 00:20:19,845 --> 00:20:22,096 I mean, he needs rest. 398 00:20:22,097 --> 00:20:25,516 - The police ended up kicking down the door that morning. 399 00:20:25,517 --> 00:20:27,476 I look outside the door and I see, like, 400 00:20:27,477 --> 00:20:30,564 the SWAT vehicles going across the park toward the house. 401 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:35,109 - I was part of the Omaha ERU, Emergency Response Unit. 402 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:35,943 Uh, the SWAT team. 403 00:20:35,944 --> 00:20:39,488 From the time we turned the corner when we were running up to the house 404 00:20:39,489 --> 00:20:42,950 to the time we hit that door was 65 seconds. 405 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:47,748 So we searched and we looked, "He's not here, he's not here. 406 00:20:48,498 --> 00:20:49,833 Keep lookin', keep lookin'." 407 00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:54,003 We looked in the closet several times, there were all these boxes, 408 00:20:54,004 --> 00:20:55,671 and it took us, uh, 409 00:20:55,672 --> 00:20:59,675 ten fifteen minutes to get all these boxes out of this closet. 410 00:20:59,676 --> 00:21:04,305 There was a little cubbyhole, and we saw Blanchard hidin' behind, uh, 411 00:21:04,306 --> 00:21:07,683 I think it was a cement chimney stack comin' out of the main level, 412 00:21:07,684 --> 00:21:09,644 but he was just hidin' back there. 413 00:21:09,645 --> 00:21:13,940 Um, he, he was stark naked, but anyway, um... 414 00:21:13,941 --> 00:21:15,066 I... and I remember that. 415 00:21:16,693 --> 00:21:17,944 So they put me in the police car. 416 00:21:17,945 --> 00:21:19,320 All the cops were giving high-fives. 417 00:21:19,321 --> 00:21:20,279 "Yeah, we got him. 418 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,739 "We found the cop, the badge, 419 00:21:21,740 --> 00:21:23,741 the walkie-talkies from the police station." 420 00:21:23,742 --> 00:21:24,825 - So we're pretty happy, you know? 421 00:21:24,826 --> 00:21:26,285 The officers are like, "Hey, score." 422 00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:29,372 You know, we had had a stolen car, uh, an arson, 423 00:21:29,373 --> 00:21:32,375 um, an escapee all in one night, 424 00:21:32,376 --> 00:21:33,584 and it was, it had been solved. 425 00:21:33,585 --> 00:21:35,837 We got the guy arrested, so we were pretty happy about that. 426 00:21:35,838 --> 00:21:38,130 He was already cuffed behind his back. 427 00:21:38,131 --> 00:21:40,299 We put him into the backseat of the cruiser. 428 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:44,136 Uh, the detective actually told me, "Be careful with this guy. 429 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:45,346 "Uh, he's kind of slick. 430 00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:48,432 He got away from Council Bluffs Police Department last night." 431 00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:50,643 So I was quick to tell the detective, "Oh, don't worry about it. 432 00:21:50,644 --> 00:21:52,144 You know, this kid's not gonna get away from me." 433 00:21:54,731 --> 00:21:57,900 I'm not sure if he had ever been arrested and transported 434 00:21:57,901 --> 00:21:59,485 to Central Station before. 435 00:21:59,486 --> 00:22:03,739 If he had, then he would know what the practice was of leaving... 436 00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:07,368 - Keys in the car. They walk... They lock their guns in a little box, 437 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:08,619 then they come back to the car, 438 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:11,080 take you out of the car and take you to the jail, 439 00:22:11,081 --> 00:22:12,999 which is in the basement of the police station. 440 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,917 And there was the news media. 441 00:22:16,587 --> 00:22:18,129 - No, there was no press. 442 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:20,339 I don't know what the hell he's talkin' about. 443 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:21,424 Yeah, there was no press. 444 00:22:21,425 --> 00:22:25,011 Um, so I get out, keys are still in the car. 445 00:22:26,638 --> 00:22:27,638 I jumped in the front seat, 446 00:22:27,639 --> 00:22:28,639 locked the front doors. 447 00:22:29,474 --> 00:22:30,933 - I just happened to glance back 448 00:22:30,934 --> 00:22:34,271 and I noticed Blanchard is no longer handcuffed behind his back. 449 00:22:34,897 --> 00:22:37,315 He's just like this with his handcuffs in front. 450 00:22:38,734 --> 00:22:41,944 At this point, my career is starting to flash before my eyes 451 00:22:41,945 --> 00:22:43,404 and I realize what-what's about to happen. 452 00:22:44,156 --> 00:22:46,574 - And I'm screaming at him at the top of my lungs 453 00:22:46,575 --> 00:22:48,455 that I'm gonna shoot him through the windshield. 454 00:22:48,493 --> 00:22:50,953 The car goes into drive, there's a cacophony, 455 00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:53,664 an explosion of noise and tire smoke. 456 00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:56,751 - Police officer slightly gets hit. 457 00:22:59,671 --> 00:23:00,796 Son of a bitch! 458 00:23:00,797 --> 00:23:03,174 I smashed through the front doors of the police station. 459 00:23:03,175 --> 00:23:05,301 The news media are still outside racking up, 460 00:23:05,302 --> 00:23:06,636 and I'm driving away. 461 00:23:06,637 --> 00:23:09,639 - You know, he's gone in an instant, out-out of the garage. 462 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,599 And I stood up and I, 463 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,729 I-I couldn't believe what had happened. I literally could not believe my eyes. 464 00:23:16,730 --> 00:23:18,689 - Didn't surprise me 'cause we told him. 465 00:23:18,690 --> 00:23:21,442 I know everybody was sayin', telling the cruiser guys, 466 00:23:21,443 --> 00:23:24,946 "You gotta watch him. You-you just can't let your guard down." 467 00:23:24,947 --> 00:23:26,906 So it was like, "Oh, my God, here we go again." 468 00:23:26,907 --> 00:23:27,865 Well... 469 00:23:27,866 --> 00:23:30,576 Uh, I shit my pants and, uh, figured, 470 00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:33,246 "Well, uh, this... I, I guess this is the way I'm gonna get fired." 471 00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:35,540 So I ran outside and I took my radio off. 472 00:23:35,541 --> 00:23:36,958 And I hear on the police radio, 473 00:23:36,959 --> 00:23:38,709 "Blanchard just escaped from the police station. 474 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:41,879 All units," blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, "Yeah, he's heading here." 475 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,130 And it's me talking to them, 476 00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:45,299 trying to send them, send them the other way. 477 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:46,968 - Blanchard takes off and goes back 478 00:23:46,969 --> 00:23:49,595 into the state of Iowa with an Omaha Police car. 479 00:23:49,596 --> 00:23:52,223 He approaches an accident scene 480 00:23:52,224 --> 00:23:54,225 that's being worked by Council Bluffs Police Department, 481 00:23:54,226 --> 00:23:56,227 and that's Officer Galvin if I'm not mistaken. 482 00:23:56,228 --> 00:23:59,772 - I'm just directing traffic, kind of keeping-keeping people moving. 483 00:23:59,773 --> 00:24:01,691 I go up and I wave to the officers to go by 484 00:24:01,692 --> 00:24:03,276 just 'cause that's normally what we do, 485 00:24:03,277 --> 00:24:05,111 uh, and I see the guy. 486 00:24:05,112 --> 00:24:07,864 He sees Danny Blanchard with no shirt on, 487 00:24:07,865 --> 00:24:11,033 handcuffed and actually slows down and waves. 488 00:24:11,034 --> 00:24:12,118 - He waves back at me. 489 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,871 I-I seriously thought for a second it was just in my head, 490 00:24:14,872 --> 00:24:16,038 but clearly it was him. 491 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,666 - So Galvin literally like drops his clipboard, 492 00:24:18,667 --> 00:24:20,001 drops what he's doing... 493 00:24:20,002 --> 00:24:22,044 - I got back to my cruiser, I jump in, I take off. 494 00:24:22,045 --> 00:24:24,088 He was weaving in and outta traffic pretty good. 495 00:24:24,089 --> 00:24:26,632 I ended up getting off, like, ten minutes later, 496 00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:28,426 took some side roads. 497 00:24:28,427 --> 00:24:29,760 - Officer Brad Wright says, "Hey, I got it. 498 00:24:29,761 --> 00:24:31,554 It's comin' off of Highway 6 right now." 499 00:24:31,555 --> 00:24:32,972 And as he rounds the corner, 500 00:24:32,973 --> 00:24:34,640 Blanchard is jumping outta the cruiser and running 501 00:24:34,641 --> 00:24:36,017 into, like, a wooded area. 502 00:24:36,018 --> 00:24:36,976 Foot pursuit took place. 503 00:24:36,977 --> 00:24:37,810 He starts chasin' him. 504 00:24:37,811 --> 00:24:40,354 He's yellin' for him to stop. "Stop or I'm gonna shoot ya." 505 00:24:40,355 --> 00:24:41,314 Officer Wright realizes... 506 00:24:41,315 --> 00:24:43,816 He can see that he's handcuffed and doesn't have a weapon, 507 00:24:43,817 --> 00:24:46,017 so he takes off after him and tackles him at that point. 508 00:24:54,328 --> 00:24:58,373 - When your child is taken away, 509 00:24:59,625 --> 00:25:02,836 there are all kinds of terrible things going through your mind. 510 00:25:03,462 --> 00:25:07,340 He'd have black eyes, he'd have a fat lip, his face... 511 00:25:07,341 --> 00:25:09,718 You could tell clearly that he had been beaten, 512 00:25:10,886 --> 00:25:13,221 and it was difficult. 513 00:25:15,933 --> 00:25:16,849 I'm sorry. 514 00:25:29,363 --> 00:25:34,700 His day in prison, I'm sure changed him a lot. 515 00:25:34,701 --> 00:25:37,996 He wasn't the same person that came out of there afterwards. 516 00:25:39,498 --> 00:25:42,166 I used to do 1,000 sit-ups a day, 1,000 pushups a day. 517 00:25:42,167 --> 00:25:43,752 I was in the best shape of my life. 518 00:25:44,169 --> 00:25:46,462 I was given a seven-year prison sentence. 519 00:25:46,463 --> 00:25:49,883 That drops down to three and a half years and you're eligible for parole after that. 520 00:25:51,051 --> 00:25:52,844 And then I was deported back to Canada. 521 00:26:06,567 --> 00:26:08,818 So the first day when I arrived in Canada 522 00:26:08,819 --> 00:26:11,196 after being deported from the States, 523 00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:13,490 no money, no nothing, 524 00:26:13,991 --> 00:26:18,287 uh, Canadian Customs gave me ten dollars to take the bus. 525 00:26:19,538 --> 00:26:23,499 I bought a nine dollar disposable camera, took the sales receipt, 526 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:26,544 photocopied it at Staples for ten cents, 527 00:26:26,545 --> 00:26:29,839 stole a couple of them and started returning those cameras. 528 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,133 By the end of the day I had a couple hundred dollars. 529 00:26:32,134 --> 00:26:35,887 I felt like I was on top of the world, back to my old self. 530 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,854 It was like starting all over. 531 00:26:45,397 --> 00:26:48,775 And he would have to do pretty much everything on his own. 532 00:26:49,651 --> 00:26:52,153 - When I arrived in Winnipeg in 1997, 533 00:26:52,154 --> 00:26:53,821 I met this beautiful blonde girl, 534 00:26:53,822 --> 00:26:56,199 and it happened to be Aaron's girlfriend, 535 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,533 and that's how I met Aaron. 536 00:26:57,534 --> 00:27:00,036 And we became friends and I said to him, 537 00:27:00,037 --> 00:27:02,413 "Hey, if you wanna make some money..." 538 00:27:02,414 --> 00:27:04,541 I said, "...I can help you very easily." 539 00:27:06,627 --> 00:27:08,461 I, you know, I was 15 years old 540 00:27:08,462 --> 00:27:10,505 and I had just gotten out of the Youth Center. 541 00:27:10,506 --> 00:27:11,672 I didn't really... 542 00:27:11,673 --> 00:27:14,676 Like, I was pretty confused and I was, like, getting into trouble. 543 00:27:16,386 --> 00:27:19,223 Dan came along and he just seemed like kind of exceptional. 544 00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:21,390 The first day I met him, he took me out, 545 00:27:21,391 --> 00:27:22,934 we went to the, to the mall, 546 00:27:22,935 --> 00:27:25,145 and he just had, like, these keys, 547 00:27:25,938 --> 00:27:30,441 and he was opening up like, the showcases and stuff in all of the stores, 548 00:27:30,442 --> 00:27:32,527 and it was just overwhelming 549 00:27:32,528 --> 00:27:35,072 the amount of stuff he was taking from the stores. 550 00:27:35,948 --> 00:27:38,241 Aaron, look through the mirror. 551 00:27:38,242 --> 00:27:39,534 Some days, like, with the returns 552 00:27:39,535 --> 00:27:42,328 he would make 30, $50,000, 553 00:27:42,329 --> 00:27:44,705 but I think he was a little bit tired of it by that time. 554 00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:46,792 He'd been doing it for, like, 20 years, you know? 555 00:27:47,501 --> 00:27:49,085 We're in, uh, Polo Park. 556 00:27:49,086 --> 00:27:50,294 This guy's up from the States. - I want... 557 00:27:50,295 --> 00:27:52,380 Just did four years in Fed, eh? 558 00:27:52,381 --> 00:27:54,800 He's out and he's fuckin' out and about. 559 00:27:55,592 --> 00:27:57,134 Full of mischief and he's, uh... 560 00:27:57,135 --> 00:27:58,427 - I haven't done anything. 561 00:27:58,428 --> 00:28:00,388 Nothing. He hasn't done a damn thing. 562 00:28:00,389 --> 00:28:02,765 This guy is fuckin' clean as a whistle. 563 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:04,475 Yeah. He's never done a thing. 564 00:28:04,476 --> 00:28:05,477 Is it on right now? 565 00:28:08,188 --> 00:28:09,272 He would often sit there 566 00:28:09,273 --> 00:28:11,691 and stare at things for hours, 567 00:28:11,692 --> 00:28:13,568 and sometimes we would, we would sit 568 00:28:13,569 --> 00:28:15,528 and he would watch a store or a bank or something, 569 00:28:15,529 --> 00:28:18,156 and he would literally spend eight hours sitting there, 570 00:28:19,116 --> 00:28:22,285 uh, you know, eating candy the whole day 571 00:28:22,286 --> 00:28:24,287 and he would be hyper-focused. 572 00:28:26,081 --> 00:28:28,207 So, I think that's when he started, you know, 573 00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:30,042 trying to progress to bigger things. 574 00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:37,133 I was driving one hot summer day, 575 00:28:37,134 --> 00:28:39,594 two o'clock in the morning coming back from a nightclub, 576 00:28:39,595 --> 00:28:42,014 and I passed a Scotiabank in South Edmonton. 577 00:28:42,514 --> 00:28:46,142 And I was like, "You know what? This bank could be taken very easily." 578 00:28:46,143 --> 00:28:47,727 And then I realized, 579 00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:50,605 why am I doing these small returns for small money 580 00:28:50,606 --> 00:28:53,816 when I can actually just take the cash from the bank? 581 00:28:58,447 --> 00:29:02,783 So I rented a hotel across the street, set up all my security equipment there, 582 00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:05,078 watching the bank for at least a month and a half. 583 00:29:05,871 --> 00:29:07,956 If someone was inside the bank, I was watching. 584 00:29:08,582 --> 00:29:09,832 I'd studied everything. 585 00:29:09,833 --> 00:29:13,127 "Okay, how am I gonna get into the bank? How do you bypass the security systems? 586 00:29:13,128 --> 00:29:15,046 "How are you gonna bypass the motion sensors? 587 00:29:15,047 --> 00:29:17,340 "Take them apart, figure them out, analyze them. 588 00:29:17,341 --> 00:29:19,091 "Where are the police stations located? 589 00:29:19,092 --> 00:29:21,010 "How are you gonna open up the ATM door? 590 00:29:21,011 --> 00:29:23,221 How are you gonna open up the ATMs? How are you gonna get into..." 591 00:29:23,222 --> 00:29:27,308 Every ATM has five trays, every tray holds about 80 to $100,000. 592 00:29:27,309 --> 00:29:29,352 Measure the whole bank out. How many feet? 593 00:29:29,353 --> 00:29:31,103 Practice exactly what I need to do. 594 00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:33,648 Put tape on the floor, run from here to there. 595 00:29:33,649 --> 00:29:35,024 It's like playing a chess game 596 00:29:35,025 --> 00:29:36,734 because one mistake, 597 00:29:36,735 --> 00:29:38,152 your freedom is gone. 598 00:29:42,115 --> 00:29:46,244 That taught me a lesson in life where if you're confident in yourself 599 00:29:46,245 --> 00:29:49,288 and you plan things enough, you'll get away with it. 600 00:29:49,289 --> 00:29:53,084 Like, who else can go into a bank and walk out with half a million dollars? 601 00:29:53,085 --> 00:29:56,295 No one knows anything. Like, it just vanished. 602 00:30:04,096 --> 00:30:07,057 So my feeling is I could only trust myself. 603 00:30:07,641 --> 00:30:10,768 So growing up, basically I was by myself 604 00:30:10,769 --> 00:30:14,188 when I had to do things or learn things. 605 00:30:14,189 --> 00:30:17,275 I didn't have someone I could talk to or take advice from. 606 00:30:18,819 --> 00:30:20,152 Scene three, take one. Mark. 607 00:30:20,153 --> 00:30:21,071 Okay. 608 00:30:21,655 --> 00:30:23,407 My name is Richard Fedoruk, 609 00:30:24,032 --> 00:30:28,119 and I'm the biological father of Gerald Blanchard, 610 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,746 criminal mastermind of the world. 611 00:30:34,209 --> 00:30:35,085 Okay. 612 00:30:36,044 --> 00:30:37,546 My girlfriend was 15, 613 00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:40,799 I was 17. We were kids ourself, 614 00:30:41,466 --> 00:30:43,593 and she put him up for adoption. 615 00:30:43,594 --> 00:30:46,220 I had no say. She was the mother. 616 00:30:46,221 --> 00:30:49,640 And my older brother called me up and said, you know, um, 617 00:30:49,641 --> 00:30:53,561 "Your son's here and he'd like to know if he could talk to you." 618 00:30:53,562 --> 00:30:57,274 I said, "Sure, I'd love to talk to him. Why wouldn't I? That's my blood." 619 00:30:58,442 --> 00:31:03,571 And I said-said, um, "Dan, just to let you know I'm recording you, 620 00:31:03,572 --> 00:31:06,032 "so when I hit that rocking chair when I'm 100, 621 00:31:06,033 --> 00:31:07,659 I'll have something to listen to." 622 00:31:08,452 --> 00:31:10,870 And he said, "Don't worry, I'm recording you, too." 623 00:31:10,871 --> 00:31:14,582 So it's kinda like, like father, like son, we're on the same page. 624 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:20,421 Maybe he felt, um, rejected being put up for adoption. 625 00:31:20,422 --> 00:31:24,383 - The way I see my relationship with my father is just friends. 626 00:31:24,384 --> 00:31:26,052 He hasn't been a part of my life. 627 00:31:26,053 --> 00:31:29,681 So I consider him as a friend, but not a father figure. 628 00:31:31,266 --> 00:31:34,227 - Maybe what made him what he is, 629 00:31:34,228 --> 00:31:36,897 I think he just wanted to show the world that... 630 00:31:37,689 --> 00:31:40,817 ...the smartest man in the world just got rejected. 631 00:31:41,318 --> 00:31:44,821 - So I was in a new line of work after the very first bank job, 632 00:31:45,447 --> 00:31:47,240 and every bank that I did after that, 633 00:31:47,241 --> 00:31:50,660 I got better and better at my unique techniques 634 00:31:50,661 --> 00:31:51,786 to get into them. 635 00:31:55,165 --> 00:31:57,667 CTV News: Top Stories. 636 00:31:57,668 --> 00:32:01,128 - Tonight, a sophisticated robbery at a CIBC branch 637 00:32:01,129 --> 00:32:02,380 in the Polo Park area. 638 00:32:02,381 --> 00:32:04,382 This CIBC branch in Empress Street 639 00:32:04,383 --> 00:32:07,760 hadn't even opened yet, but its automatic teller machines... 640 00:32:07,761 --> 00:32:09,220 Eight ATMs were robbed 641 00:32:09,221 --> 00:32:11,514 while the bank was still under construction. 642 00:32:11,515 --> 00:32:13,432 More than half a million dollars was stolen. 643 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:15,393 It's got authority shaking their heads 644 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,354 over the high level of sophistication it took 645 00:32:18,355 --> 00:32:19,606 to pull this off. 646 00:32:26,113 --> 00:32:29,198 For me, it started as a... as a young boy. 647 00:32:30,826 --> 00:32:35,414 - I was always impressed with wanting to be a police officer, 648 00:32:35,956 --> 00:32:39,542 and, uh, that was my dream as a, as a boy 649 00:32:39,543 --> 00:32:42,545 and-and the rest was history, so to say. 650 00:32:44,590 --> 00:32:45,840 They were looking for the right-winger 651 00:32:45,841 --> 00:32:49,260 on the, uh, Winnipeg Police, uh, hockey team. 652 00:32:49,261 --> 00:32:52,764 They approached me about maybe applying and I ended up getting on and... 653 00:32:53,974 --> 00:32:55,266 I just kinda, it was my niche. 654 00:32:55,267 --> 00:32:57,268 It was, it was really good because it's a team. 655 00:33:04,735 --> 00:33:06,611 I've never even heard of anything like this. 656 00:33:06,612 --> 00:33:08,237 Nev... Never even heard of it. 657 00:33:08,238 --> 00:33:12,283 An outright theft of, uh, three quarters of a million dollars cash? 658 00:33:12,284 --> 00:33:13,659 That's a big deal. 659 00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:15,579 Um, you know, that's a really big deal. 660 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,457 - This is a very sophisticated-type break and enter. 661 00:33:19,458 --> 00:33:21,375 This is not something we saw every day. 662 00:33:21,376 --> 00:33:24,629 Never saw it in 27 years of, of my career. 663 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:26,270 You know, the CIBC just 664 00:33:27,216 --> 00:33:29,175 constructed this brand new building 665 00:33:29,176 --> 00:33:34,263 that was so secure and, well, it was circumvented. 666 00:33:36,391 --> 00:33:39,268 It was really quite a mystery, 667 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:42,271 quite a mystery how these locked ATMs 668 00:33:42,272 --> 00:33:46,400 could have been opened so quickly, and then the cash taken out 669 00:33:46,401 --> 00:33:49,529 and there was nothing to be seen, nothing to be seen. 670 00:33:51,198 --> 00:33:52,448 People kinda threw up and said, 671 00:33:52,449 --> 00:33:53,324 "Well, there's other work to do 672 00:33:53,325 --> 00:33:56,118 and this one looks a little too hard to get done." 673 00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:58,664 It looked to me that it was solvable. 674 00:33:59,456 --> 00:34:02,667 So we formed a task force that we eventually called Project Kite. 675 00:34:03,752 --> 00:34:05,336 Uh, we had a war room, you know? 676 00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:07,922 Where desks and cork boards up. 677 00:34:07,923 --> 00:34:11,634 At the high of it, we probably had a dozen, fourteen detectives, you know, 678 00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:14,470 running around for us, gathering what was needed. 679 00:34:14,471 --> 00:34:16,889 - We didn't wanna go to the task force, 680 00:34:16,890 --> 00:34:19,433 but Mitch wanted us and we were forced to go. 681 00:34:19,434 --> 00:34:23,938 - I think the crime scene just really was the open backs of the ATMs. 682 00:34:23,939 --> 00:34:28,317 So at the time, nobody knew how the person even got into the ATMs. 683 00:34:28,318 --> 00:34:30,903 - So, you would've seen media, movies, 684 00:34:30,904 --> 00:34:33,364 and similar interesting thefts 685 00:34:33,365 --> 00:34:36,284 or strange, uh, crimes that have been committed 686 00:34:36,285 --> 00:34:38,828 that were certainly outside the lines of the norm, 687 00:34:38,829 --> 00:34:40,288 and this is one of those. 688 00:34:40,289 --> 00:34:42,707 - So we got a lot of ground to cover 689 00:34:42,708 --> 00:34:47,087 to finally figure out how this happened. 690 00:34:49,173 --> 00:34:50,631 Well, what happened was I flew 691 00:34:50,632 --> 00:34:52,884 to Winnipeg to visit my family 692 00:34:52,885 --> 00:34:54,677 and my grandmother was tellin' me 693 00:34:54,678 --> 00:34:57,805 about how they're closing down her CIBC branch. 694 00:34:57,806 --> 00:34:59,098 And I said, "What do you mean?" 695 00:34:59,099 --> 00:35:02,643 And she said, "They're closing all the little smaller branches 696 00:35:02,644 --> 00:35:04,896 "and putting seven or eight smaller branches 697 00:35:04,897 --> 00:35:06,898 into this one big mega branch." 698 00:35:06,899 --> 00:35:08,566 And that piqued my interest. 699 00:35:08,567 --> 00:35:11,235 There was a big sign out front saying, 700 00:35:11,236 --> 00:35:14,405 "Future home of the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce." 701 00:35:14,406 --> 00:35:16,073 There, the seed was set. 702 00:35:16,074 --> 00:35:18,117 - 'Cause at that time there was no securities on the banks 703 00:35:18,118 --> 00:35:19,410 when they were being built. 704 00:35:19,411 --> 00:35:21,579 No alarm systems, no guards. 705 00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:23,915 It's just a shell, there's no money, there's no nothing. 706 00:35:23,916 --> 00:35:25,666 So I went across the street to Home Depot, 707 00:35:25,667 --> 00:35:28,794 bought a hard hat, a vest, put it on, walked in there. 708 00:35:28,795 --> 00:35:30,671 This was an opportunity for him 709 00:35:30,672 --> 00:35:33,508 to put devices into the bank 710 00:35:33,509 --> 00:35:37,053 that would aid him in the future. 711 00:35:37,054 --> 00:35:39,305 Uh, I... I don't know how people think that way. 712 00:35:39,306 --> 00:35:40,848 - Well, the first time was pretty easy. 713 00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:44,560 I just went to Toys "R" Us and bought a $50 baby monitor. 714 00:35:44,561 --> 00:35:49,065 Screw that in there, plaster it up, sand it down, repaint it, 715 00:35:49,066 --> 00:35:51,651 and within two hours you're done. 716 00:35:51,652 --> 00:35:53,402 So, he would've been able to listen 717 00:35:53,403 --> 00:35:55,321 to the general contractor say, 718 00:35:55,322 --> 00:35:57,198 "Okay, well, boys, this room's gotta be done 719 00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:01,077 "by such and such a day because the ATMs are coming on May 13th." 720 00:36:01,078 --> 00:36:02,578 So he would know that. 721 00:36:02,579 --> 00:36:04,121 As the bank is being built, 722 00:36:04,122 --> 00:36:07,750 he's also putting ways to get in the bank, ways to get outta the bank. 723 00:36:07,751 --> 00:36:10,169 He had gone into the bank when it was being built 724 00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,713 into the back of the motion detector, 725 00:36:12,714 --> 00:36:16,801 and he'd soldered the wire and ran it all the way back into the bathroom 726 00:36:16,802 --> 00:36:18,928 so that he can go in there and go, twist. 727 00:36:18,929 --> 00:36:21,514 Now the motion detector in the ATM doesn't work, 728 00:36:21,515 --> 00:36:23,933 so when he drops through the ceiling later, 729 00:36:23,934 --> 00:36:25,101 it doesn't go off. 730 00:36:25,102 --> 00:36:27,812 - The preparation takes as long as it takes to build the building, 731 00:36:27,813 --> 00:36:30,147 which could be several months, could be a year. 732 00:36:30,148 --> 00:36:33,651 The level of patience is just mind blowing to me. 733 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,072 And so, what happened is he realized 734 00:36:38,073 --> 00:36:41,993 that each ATM holds about $100,000 Canadian dollars. 735 00:36:41,994 --> 00:36:44,287 All you need to do is figure out a way 736 00:36:44,288 --> 00:36:46,831 to get into these "little safes." 737 00:36:46,832 --> 00:36:50,459 And he figured out a... brilliant way to do it. 738 00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:52,378 - And the way it works is that, 739 00:36:52,379 --> 00:36:53,713 you know, he brings cart, has a fob, 740 00:36:53,714 --> 00:36:57,300 and then he has, he has to phone in for a code that works once. 741 00:36:57,301 --> 00:37:00,636 So he spins a dial, punches in a code, uses the fob, 742 00:37:00,637 --> 00:37:01,637 and the door opens. 743 00:37:01,638 --> 00:37:05,017 So it's fairly... It's very secure... normally. 744 00:37:05,475 --> 00:37:06,559 - None of that matters. 745 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,187 It's just show-and-tell. 746 00:37:09,188 --> 00:37:12,106 It's like when you're doing it from the inside out, 747 00:37:12,107 --> 00:37:14,859 modify things, you have full access. 748 00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:18,070 Gerald found a way to manipulate 749 00:37:18,071 --> 00:37:23,701 a very sophisticated, well-engineered lock by just manipulating 750 00:37:23,702 --> 00:37:26,622 some of the screws that held that lock in position. 751 00:37:27,122 --> 00:37:30,208 It was ingenious. It was absolutely ingenious. 752 00:37:30,209 --> 00:37:31,918 The body of the screw 753 00:37:31,919 --> 00:37:35,672 had been sawed through to about 80% through. 754 00:37:36,798 --> 00:37:39,217 So now when they reef on the locking mechanism, 755 00:37:39,218 --> 00:37:42,596 those already tampered with screws sever, 756 00:37:43,222 --> 00:37:45,389 and they all peel back 757 00:37:45,390 --> 00:37:48,018 and the locking mechanism swings open 758 00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:50,604 and, shazam, there's your money. 759 00:37:51,772 --> 00:37:54,148 On the eve of when this bank 760 00:37:54,149 --> 00:37:58,236 was gonna open to the public, they were filled with money 761 00:37:58,237 --> 00:38:01,864 to the tune of about $750,000 cash. 762 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,200 And I knew all that money 763 00:38:04,201 --> 00:38:05,661 would be in my pockets, 764 00:38:06,203 --> 00:38:10,289 so I just sat patiently and watched and waited until the time was right. 765 00:38:15,546 --> 00:38:18,423 I felt like it would be better to have at least two people 766 00:38:19,216 --> 00:38:22,593 because I figured if there's seven bank machines, 767 00:38:22,594 --> 00:38:25,096 there's going to be four trays per machine, 768 00:38:25,097 --> 00:38:28,100 that's quite a bit of boxes to carry out. 769 00:38:28,767 --> 00:38:31,979 So I had my cousin be the driver for the vehicle, 770 00:38:32,729 --> 00:38:36,942 and he's the one who wanted to bring his friend John Doe into the mix. 771 00:38:38,277 --> 00:38:40,529 So that night when I did the robbery, 772 00:38:41,530 --> 00:38:43,447 I climbed up to the roof, 773 00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:46,118 had the steel bars in the air vents precut, 774 00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:49,412 dropped through the air vents, crawled to the other side, 775 00:38:49,413 --> 00:38:51,289 dropped down into the ATM room. 776 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,295 I could hear the fans of the machines and it was nice and quiet. 777 00:38:59,673 --> 00:39:01,674 Once I twisted the two wires, 778 00:39:01,675 --> 00:39:04,303 they gave me full access to walk around the ATM room 779 00:39:04,845 --> 00:39:08,139 without any security devices going off. 780 00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:12,019 Now, as soon as I opened the ATM machine, I knew the alarm was going to go off. 781 00:39:24,156 --> 00:39:28,201 - He was able to get into these ATMs one after another, 782 00:39:28,202 --> 00:39:30,161 probably within 20 or 30 seconds. 783 00:39:30,162 --> 00:39:32,371 He just... We could see by the alarms afterwards 784 00:39:32,372 --> 00:39:34,248 that they went bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. 785 00:39:34,249 --> 00:39:36,501 The adrenaline rush must be overwhelming. 786 00:39:36,502 --> 00:39:38,419 So I opened up the machine, 787 00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:39,921 twisted the lock, 788 00:39:39,922 --> 00:39:42,215 grabbed the four trays from each machine, 789 00:39:42,216 --> 00:39:43,675 sat them on the dolly. 790 00:39:44,635 --> 00:39:46,302 The police officers responded, 791 00:39:46,303 --> 00:39:47,930 checked the bank. 792 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,975 There was no signs of forced entry, uh, there was nothing suspicious, 793 00:39:52,476 --> 00:39:54,686 and, uh, kinda cleared the call. 794 00:39:55,562 --> 00:39:57,230 So after we took all the trays out, 795 00:39:57,231 --> 00:40:00,442 we closed the doors, opened up the fire exit, 796 00:40:01,068 --> 00:40:02,527 we drove away and then we went 797 00:40:02,528 --> 00:40:06,197 to the safe house and started counting the money. 798 00:40:10,744 --> 00:40:12,944 If you're the bank manager coming in, 799 00:40:13,372 --> 00:40:15,665 that morning you open the front door, 800 00:40:15,666 --> 00:40:19,877 you look at the six ATM machines, "Mm. Everything looks good here." Right? 801 00:40:19,878 --> 00:40:23,005 It's only when you go into the back room, behind, 802 00:40:23,006 --> 00:40:24,590 where the machines are serviced, 803 00:40:24,591 --> 00:40:27,301 that you would see each one of the doors open, right? 804 00:40:27,302 --> 00:40:28,928 And the cash trays gone. 805 00:40:28,929 --> 00:40:31,055 Everything is, uh, intact. 806 00:40:31,056 --> 00:40:33,141 It looks like if I close the door, it would lock. 807 00:40:33,767 --> 00:40:36,018 - They canvased the area a-and the CIBC 808 00:40:36,019 --> 00:40:38,939 was in a shopping mall area and there was a Walmart. 809 00:40:40,023 --> 00:40:41,899 So it just happened on that night, 810 00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:45,278 there happened to be a Walmart greeter in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 811 00:40:45,279 --> 00:40:49,031 that was checkin' for license plates, and when they checked the plate, 812 00:40:49,032 --> 00:40:52,618 it came up to a Gerald Daniel Blanchard from Edmonton, Alberta, 813 00:40:52,619 --> 00:40:55,788 and it was being rented from Avis at the airport. 814 00:40:55,789 --> 00:40:59,418 And from there, Gerald Daniel Blanchard became a person of interest. 815 00:41:02,504 --> 00:41:04,922 - Danny Blanchard, he registered that vehicle, 816 00:41:04,923 --> 00:41:06,675 rented it in his name. 817 00:41:07,092 --> 00:41:10,804 - You ask yourself the question, "How could someone so smart be so dumb?" 818 00:41:11,972 --> 00:41:13,097 But I must say, when the police 819 00:41:13,098 --> 00:41:17,518 were in the ATM room behind the bank machines, 820 00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:18,686 fingerprinting everything, 821 00:41:18,687 --> 00:41:20,767 trying to figure everything out, I was watching them. 822 00:41:21,398 --> 00:41:23,691 I could see what they were talking about. 823 00:41:23,692 --> 00:41:25,359 And they said, "Hey, this guy, 824 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,821 Gerald Blanchard had this van in the parking lot." 825 00:41:28,822 --> 00:41:31,699 - Uh, the bank manager received a call, 826 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:34,744 uh, that someone from inside the bank, cons... 827 00:41:34,745 --> 00:41:37,330 That constructed the bank was responsible. 828 00:41:40,167 --> 00:41:42,087 Hi, I have a tip for you. 829 00:41:42,336 --> 00:41:46,088 I know who robbed your bank, they're going to rob you again. 830 00:41:46,089 --> 00:41:47,798 But this time with guns blazing. 831 00:41:47,799 --> 00:41:48,842 You better be careful. 832 00:41:49,635 --> 00:41:50,844 I don't want anybody hurt. 833 00:41:53,514 --> 00:41:57,017 - That totally diverts the police 834 00:41:57,518 --> 00:42:00,895 investigating at the time on two different tangents. 835 00:42:00,896 --> 00:42:02,188 - So we're running one way, 836 00:42:02,189 --> 00:42:04,650 and he's-he's running outta the city with everything he's got. 837 00:42:16,411 --> 00:42:19,372 - You know, it's Gerald Daniel Blanchard, uh, from Edmonton. 838 00:42:19,373 --> 00:42:20,540 Who is he? 839 00:42:20,541 --> 00:42:22,583 We didn't have any intelligence on him. 840 00:42:22,584 --> 00:42:24,044 - So, we make a phone call 841 00:42:24,878 --> 00:42:27,506 to the Canadian Bankers Association, and we say, 842 00:42:28,799 --> 00:42:30,384 "Have you ever had anything similar?" 843 00:42:31,635 --> 00:42:32,760 "Similar? 844 00:42:32,761 --> 00:42:35,138 Well, as a matter of fact, Larry, yes, there have been." 845 00:42:36,014 --> 00:42:38,850 We learned that similar events happened in Edmonton, 846 00:42:38,851 --> 00:42:42,520 similar events happened, uh, out east in Etobicoke. 847 00:42:42,521 --> 00:42:45,940 The, uh, Scotiabank in the Branford, Ontario area. 848 00:42:45,941 --> 00:42:47,859 Went to the Alberta Treasury Board. 849 00:42:47,860 --> 00:42:49,819 An additional CIBC. 850 00:42:49,820 --> 00:42:52,363 Two or three at least there were in Edmonton. 851 00:42:52,364 --> 00:42:54,574 Scotiabank in British Columbia. 852 00:42:54,575 --> 00:42:57,743 - B.C., we had in Alberta, we had teams locally here in Winnipeg. 853 00:42:57,744 --> 00:42:59,579 - It started to get bigger and bigger. 854 00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:01,247 - And we had banks callin' us. 855 00:43:01,248 --> 00:43:03,958 - I would say probably in the dozens. 856 00:43:05,335 --> 00:43:07,337 - I don't think there's a number you can say. 857 00:43:09,089 --> 00:43:11,883 You can see the smile to my face, it was very good. 858 00:43:12,968 --> 00:43:14,260 - More details tonight from police 859 00:43:14,261 --> 00:43:17,096 on the organized crime ring with Winnipeg ties. 860 00:43:17,097 --> 00:43:19,390 - As we started to move along, 861 00:43:19,391 --> 00:43:22,059 it, uh, it really started to expand. 862 00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:23,978 - A sophisticated operation, 863 00:43:23,979 --> 00:43:26,356 Winnipeg Police can't help but marvel at. 864 00:43:26,773 --> 00:43:28,274 I was out of control. 865 00:43:28,275 --> 00:43:30,610 I just wanted every bank that was being done 866 00:43:30,611 --> 00:43:31,445 as much as I could. 867 00:43:32,154 --> 00:43:34,405 And that's why I went from the bank in Winnipeg, 868 00:43:34,406 --> 00:43:37,700 right to the bank in Toronto, from the bank in Toronto, 869 00:43:37,701 --> 00:43:39,119 back to the bank in Edmonton. 870 00:43:39,578 --> 00:43:41,830 I was just a wild man at the time. 871 00:43:43,165 --> 00:43:44,790 I flew back to Winnipeg, 872 00:43:44,791 --> 00:43:48,169 and there was a Royal Bank ATM machine sitting outside 873 00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:49,253 of the drive-through. 874 00:43:49,254 --> 00:43:51,088 I put the tarp over the machine, 875 00:43:51,089 --> 00:43:54,509 and I took circular saw and I bought a diamond blade 876 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:56,719 that will cut through an inch of steel like butter. 877 00:43:59,932 --> 00:44:01,599 The door popped right open. 878 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,518 There's $200,000 right there. 879 00:44:04,353 --> 00:44:07,606 So, I look out the tarp, and I'm being surrounded by the police, 880 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:10,024 but I had a backup plan. 881 00:44:10,025 --> 00:44:12,569 I'm wearing a vest with six smoke grenades. 882 00:44:13,070 --> 00:44:15,404 I pull the two grenades off of my vest, 883 00:44:15,405 --> 00:44:18,616 throw them out from underneath the tarp toward the police officers. 884 00:44:18,617 --> 00:44:19,992 Smoke everywhere. 885 00:44:19,993 --> 00:44:21,744 I run a couple blocks away, 886 00:44:21,745 --> 00:44:23,746 and I hide under this car 887 00:44:23,747 --> 00:44:25,915 and before you know it, there's a dog. 888 00:44:25,916 --> 00:44:28,000 Dog has me, I'm arrested. 889 00:44:30,671 --> 00:44:34,632 So I go to jail, and as I'm walking in the jail, 890 00:44:34,633 --> 00:44:35,883 I look to my left 891 00:44:35,884 --> 00:44:38,594 and I see this room and it's like a classroom. 892 00:44:38,595 --> 00:44:40,429 It has my picture at the very top, 893 00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:43,641 and it has like all my relatives, and all my associates underneath. 894 00:44:43,642 --> 00:44:46,979 And I realize there's a big investigation going on regarding me. 895 00:44:47,521 --> 00:44:50,690 And the detective, like, yanks me and tells me, 896 00:44:50,691 --> 00:44:52,651 "Mind your own business," as I'm walking by. 897 00:44:53,861 --> 00:44:58,657 Strange thing is they give me, like, $2,000 cash bail. 898 00:44:59,116 --> 00:45:01,075 - He was interviewed and then released 899 00:45:01,076 --> 00:45:02,994 on what we call promise to appear on paper. 900 00:45:02,995 --> 00:45:04,495 And he used an alias. 901 00:45:04,496 --> 00:45:07,207 So, his true identity never ever came out 902 00:45:07,708 --> 00:45:09,959 until later when we found... We started running names 903 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,640 and-and doing background, and then we went, 904 00:45:12,087 --> 00:45:14,172 "Holy crow. He's upstairs." 905 00:45:14,173 --> 00:45:15,716 I mean, he was just upstairs. 906 00:45:16,216 --> 00:45:17,758 That's when things came up 907 00:45:17,759 --> 00:45:22,890 that, you know, Gerald had at least 22 aliases and different names. 908 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,018 - He wouldn't say it was Daniel Blanchard that did it. 909 00:45:27,019 --> 00:45:31,314 It was one of his aliases, that would again, have no record. 910 00:45:31,315 --> 00:45:34,317 He would be released shortly thereafter 911 00:45:34,318 --> 00:45:36,736 of-of doing that break-in, 912 00:45:36,737 --> 00:45:38,863 and then he's back on the street again. 913 00:45:38,864 --> 00:45:40,615 Down there. PERSON 2: You can see the green tower there? 914 00:45:42,326 --> 00:45:43,743 It's not like the U.S. 915 00:45:43,744 --> 00:45:44,952 Everyone knows here in Canada, 916 00:45:44,953 --> 00:45:47,831 non-violent crime is a slap on the hands. 917 00:45:48,498 --> 00:45:51,959 In the U.S. I was looking at 160 years in prison. 918 00:46:00,969 --> 00:46:02,969 I knew the police were investigating me, 919 00:46:03,388 --> 00:46:06,517 and they were getting in the way of my goals. 920 00:46:07,267 --> 00:46:10,186 So, I would always antagonize them 921 00:46:10,187 --> 00:46:12,022 if they caused an issue with me. 922 00:46:14,024 --> 00:46:16,526 - Very early on, Gerald wanted to talk 923 00:46:16,527 --> 00:46:17,902 to the people running the squad. 924 00:46:17,903 --> 00:46:19,278 He knew our names. 925 00:46:19,279 --> 00:46:21,072 I don't know how he knew our names, but he knew our names. 926 00:46:22,616 --> 00:46:24,784 He phoned down to the major crimes unit, 927 00:46:24,785 --> 00:46:26,118 posing as Winnipeg Police, 928 00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,120 said that Gerald Blanchard was a friend of his 929 00:46:28,121 --> 00:46:31,082 and give him preferred, uh, treatment, to treat him right. 930 00:46:31,083 --> 00:46:32,876 He's just playing with me, right? 931 00:46:33,418 --> 00:46:36,712 At one point in time, he sent me a-a text message 932 00:46:36,713 --> 00:46:39,632 with a whole bunch of pictures of him sitting on a yacht 933 00:46:39,633 --> 00:46:41,551 and, uh, driving a Ferrari 934 00:46:41,552 --> 00:46:44,304 and, you know, money on a ATM, 935 00:46:44,763 --> 00:46:47,056 just to kinda poke me again, you know? And just like... 936 00:46:47,057 --> 00:46:49,267 - Pokin' the bear, I suppose. 937 00:46:50,185 --> 00:46:51,853 He likes to tease a little bit. 938 00:46:51,854 --> 00:46:54,272 He sent pictures when he was in China 939 00:46:54,273 --> 00:46:55,731 and he's at an ATM machine. 940 00:46:55,732 --> 00:46:59,777 He had piles of cash piled up, you know, wrapped. 941 00:47:01,613 --> 00:47:02,738 It's the game he plays. 942 00:47:02,739 --> 00:47:04,116 It's the challenge he likes. 943 00:47:04,992 --> 00:47:06,492 You know, he likes that challenge. 944 00:47:06,493 --> 00:47:08,786 Much like we or I like the challenge 945 00:47:08,787 --> 00:47:11,748 of trying to figure it out and catch him, you know? 946 00:47:12,916 --> 00:47:13,750 So, 947 00:47:15,085 --> 00:47:17,044 different challenges, but we all... 948 00:47:17,045 --> 00:47:18,421 That was the most enjoyable thing, 949 00:47:18,422 --> 00:47:21,925 is trying to match wits with whoever you're trying to arrest. 950 00:47:23,635 --> 00:47:24,915 Well, Larry and Mitch, 951 00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:27,054 they had sleepless nights. 952 00:47:27,055 --> 00:47:29,223 They had no vacation, they told me. 953 00:47:29,224 --> 00:47:32,603 They worked 24 hour days sometimes, 954 00:47:33,353 --> 00:47:35,856 exhausting days, to catch me. 955 00:47:36,315 --> 00:47:38,441 So, they put so much effort into me, 956 00:47:38,442 --> 00:47:41,445 they felt like they knew me better than they knew their own wife. 957 00:47:43,155 --> 00:47:45,235 I hate to say it, but it's a game. 958 00:47:45,908 --> 00:47:47,034 It becomes a game. 959 00:47:47,826 --> 00:47:51,287 We're always thinking, trying to plan on how to, how we're gonna catch him. 960 00:47:51,288 --> 00:47:53,497 How are we gonna get evidence on this guy? 961 00:47:53,498 --> 00:47:56,876 How are we gonna bring him to, to the courts and-and prosecute him? 962 00:47:56,877 --> 00:47:58,211 - Conditions of the courtroom, 963 00:47:58,212 --> 00:48:03,674 all the rules around accusing people, finding them guilty, 964 00:48:03,675 --> 00:48:05,134 that's a different world. 965 00:48:05,135 --> 00:48:08,222 - If you don't have your evidence, you're done. 966 00:48:09,139 --> 00:48:10,556 There wasn't a lot there. 967 00:48:10,557 --> 00:48:13,768 There was a few little snippets of good information. 968 00:48:13,769 --> 00:48:16,145 This file was really calling for it. 969 00:48:16,146 --> 00:48:17,606 It was just screaming 970 00:48:18,357 --> 00:48:20,816 wiretap, wiretap. 971 00:48:20,817 --> 00:48:22,902 - I-I lost the jug of whiskey besk... 972 00:48:22,903 --> 00:48:24,820 Betting that he wouldn't say two words on the phone 973 00:48:24,821 --> 00:48:26,240 and it'd be a waste of time. 974 00:48:26,865 --> 00:48:28,075 And he never shut up. 975 00:49:04,278 --> 00:49:06,153 - The same day that we hooked up, 976 00:49:06,154 --> 00:49:09,323 he was already active and involved in crime 977 00:49:09,324 --> 00:49:11,951 and that's really when everything just took off, 978 00:49:11,952 --> 00:49:14,704 because when you listen to somebody on a wiretap, 979 00:49:14,705 --> 00:49:16,205 you really get to know them. 980 00:49:19,668 --> 00:49:21,586 - He was livin' the life of Riley, you know? 981 00:49:21,587 --> 00:49:23,630 He had money, lots of it. 982 00:49:24,131 --> 00:49:27,842 He was keepin' company with, uh, the rich and famous... 983 00:49:29,553 --> 00:49:30,887 Beautiful women. 984 00:49:34,474 --> 00:49:37,310 - Yeah, he was, he had the-the world by the tail. 985 00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:42,607 The aha moment would be 986 00:49:42,608 --> 00:49:44,609 is that he just continues to commit crime. 987 00:49:44,610 --> 00:49:45,818 It's not the money. 988 00:49:45,819 --> 00:49:47,820 And you start to think, "Well, why is he doing this? 989 00:49:47,821 --> 00:49:50,781 He doesn't... He can't use the money. He doesn't, he doesn't need the money." 990 00:49:50,782 --> 00:49:52,783 - Some of his crimes seem very petty, 991 00:49:52,784 --> 00:49:54,493 actually almost comical. 992 00:49:57,748 --> 00:50:00,208 - He would fabricate badges indicating 993 00:50:00,209 --> 00:50:04,212 he was the press or, um, he was a special VIP 994 00:50:04,213 --> 00:50:06,507 and get into Indy races. 995 00:50:07,174 --> 00:50:08,758 Or get a bird's eye view 996 00:50:08,759 --> 00:50:10,593 of a Stanley Cup final game. 997 00:50:17,434 --> 00:50:19,018 - He was traveling the world. 998 00:50:22,689 --> 00:50:24,273 - So as you listen to him more, 999 00:50:24,274 --> 00:50:26,693 you start to get a sense of who you think he is, 1000 00:50:27,319 --> 00:50:28,903 and-and what he's all about. 1001 00:50:36,036 --> 00:50:37,995 - He does things just for the thrill of it. 1002 00:50:37,996 --> 00:50:40,039 He did a-a break into our bank 1003 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,709 and got $600,000 and then very shortly thereafter, 1004 00:50:43,710 --> 00:50:45,670 he's shoplifting a toaster. 1005 00:50:45,671 --> 00:50:50,842 - There was this little wheel going round and round and round and it never stopped. 1006 00:50:50,843 --> 00:50:54,720 In my experience, the more you commit this type of crime, 1007 00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:59,100 the more you are in fact addicted to the high that it gives you. 1008 00:51:04,022 --> 00:51:07,650 And you hear him on the wiretaps saying, 1009 00:51:07,651 --> 00:51:09,735 "I know I am being taped," 1010 00:51:09,736 --> 00:51:12,405 and then going into the details of the crimes 1011 00:51:12,406 --> 00:51:15,032 that he has committed or potentially will commit, 1012 00:51:15,033 --> 00:51:18,035 knowing full well that there is a police officer 1013 00:51:18,036 --> 00:51:20,955 on the other end of that listening device. 1014 00:51:20,956 --> 00:51:24,000 By way of saying, "I can fool you big boys. 1015 00:51:24,001 --> 00:51:26,210 I'm just a little guy, but watch me run." 1016 00:51:27,045 --> 00:51:30,381 - He deals with an, an adrenaline rush. 1017 00:51:30,382 --> 00:51:32,509 That's what it is. It's a challenge. 1018 00:51:33,343 --> 00:51:34,510 I have it, too. 1019 00:51:34,511 --> 00:51:36,053 I'm a professional fighter. 1020 00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:39,348 I've said to people, 1021 00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:41,475 "I wouldn't be afraid to bite your eyeball out 1022 00:51:41,476 --> 00:51:43,853 "if it came down to it, or bite your nose off. 1023 00:51:43,854 --> 00:51:45,313 I'm not out to lose." 1024 00:51:50,277 --> 00:51:52,403 While they're trying to chase me all over the globe, 1025 00:51:52,404 --> 00:51:53,906 I actually kind of enjoy it. 1026 00:51:54,615 --> 00:51:57,116 I see them there, they know that I see them. 1027 00:51:57,117 --> 00:52:00,369 I gave chase a few times to the undercover detective cars, 1028 00:52:00,370 --> 00:52:02,998 letting them know like, "Hey, I know who you are." 1029 00:52:03,582 --> 00:52:06,125 And it's like, "Catch me if you can." 1030 00:52:06,126 --> 00:52:08,545 That's my th... my thought at the time. 1031 00:52:11,757 --> 00:52:16,220 I wanna tell this story to let people know 1032 00:52:16,845 --> 00:52:21,391 that there is another side to my son and not just the criminal side. 1033 00:52:22,142 --> 00:52:26,813 When my son got sent back to Canada was when he met Ramona. 1034 00:52:29,316 --> 00:52:30,775 That's so funny. 1035 00:52:30,776 --> 00:52:33,194 - As you see, Mother, I'm doing good. 1036 00:52:33,195 --> 00:52:34,946 And this is my friend. 1037 00:52:34,947 --> 00:52:36,989 And your name is? - Ramona. 1038 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:38,574 - Ramona? - Poss. 1039 00:52:38,575 --> 00:52:39,700 Poss? 1040 00:52:39,701 --> 00:52:41,077 And she's flying to where? 1041 00:52:41,078 --> 00:52:42,078 - Germany. 1042 00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:44,121 - For how long? - For four months. 1043 00:52:44,122 --> 00:52:45,456 That must be nice. 1044 00:52:46,959 --> 00:52:47,793 - Hello? 1045 00:52:48,460 --> 00:52:51,839 And-and how can you afford all these lovely vacations? 1046 00:52:52,589 --> 00:52:53,965 - Through my parents. 1047 00:52:53,966 --> 00:52:55,846 And what do your parents do for work? 1048 00:52:57,010 --> 00:52:58,719 - Why do you wanna know that? You know all that. 1049 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:02,473 They're a real estate ki... kicoon, kitoon... 1050 00:53:02,474 --> 00:53:04,183 What's that word? - Owners? 1051 00:53:04,184 --> 00:53:06,811 No. Real estate ki... 1052 00:53:06,812 --> 00:53:08,229 Cut. Do it again. 1053 00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:09,897 - We own estate, you know? 1054 00:53:10,983 --> 00:53:13,234 - I had no idea that my son 1055 00:53:13,235 --> 00:53:16,697 was living a double life, basically. 1056 00:53:17,406 --> 00:53:19,740 I was extremely happy that my son 1057 00:53:19,741 --> 00:53:23,995 had found a young woman that I really liked, 1058 00:53:23,996 --> 00:53:26,330 and he seemed extremely happy with her. 1059 00:53:26,331 --> 00:53:31,669 He felt confident, and he was getting to live a life 1060 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:34,255 that I couldn't imagine living myself. 1061 00:53:37,009 --> 00:53:40,845 They started, you know, scuba diving, they went snorkeling, 1062 00:53:40,846 --> 00:53:42,555 they went skiing. 1063 00:53:42,556 --> 00:53:44,348 They were doing all kinds of things 1064 00:53:44,349 --> 00:53:47,143 that I never had the opportunity to do. 1065 00:53:47,144 --> 00:53:49,520 I really, really liked Ramona. 1066 00:53:49,521 --> 00:53:53,399 I grew to love her, and she became a part of our family. 1067 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,320 So, I saw my son being happy. 1068 00:54:05,245 --> 00:54:09,208 According to my son, financially then, 1069 00:54:09,917 --> 00:54:14,755 her father was helping them establish real estate. 1070 00:54:15,547 --> 00:54:18,257 So, there was no question 1071 00:54:18,258 --> 00:54:23,222 about my son being involved in any kinda crimes. 1072 00:54:24,431 --> 00:54:27,141 I mean, why would I even think that 1073 00:54:27,142 --> 00:54:30,103 when he got established with this family 1074 00:54:30,896 --> 00:54:32,147 who had money? 1075 00:54:34,441 --> 00:54:36,984 So I was married to a German lady, 1076 00:54:36,985 --> 00:54:40,655 and her father was quite wealthy, so we took a tour across Europe. 1077 00:54:40,656 --> 00:54:42,323 Ramona, nice? 1078 00:54:42,324 --> 00:54:45,910 And he received a private tour of the castle in Austria. 1079 00:54:45,911 --> 00:54:48,996 And that's when I saw the Sisi Star on display for the first time. 1080 00:54:51,250 --> 00:54:53,751 - It's the romantic part of it, of the whole story. 1081 00:54:53,752 --> 00:54:55,211 It-it truly is. 1082 00:54:55,212 --> 00:54:59,298 Which comes along kind of out of the blue to us, right? 1083 00:54:59,299 --> 00:55:00,967 Uh, we do an Interpol check 1084 00:55:00,968 --> 00:55:04,011 because, you know, that's, uh, w-what you would do 1085 00:55:04,012 --> 00:55:07,056 in a, in a high-profile file like this. 1086 00:55:07,057 --> 00:55:08,933 Uh, and lo and behold, 1087 00:55:08,934 --> 00:55:11,687 you know, we received this information back that says, 1088 00:55:12,646 --> 00:55:14,772 "Gerald Blanchard of Canada 1089 00:55:14,773 --> 00:55:18,192 is a person of interest in the theft of the Sisi Star." 1090 00:55:18,193 --> 00:55:22,739 - That would've been in, eh, in-in like '98, '98, '99. 1091 00:55:23,657 --> 00:55:24,949 That's a long time ago. 1092 00:55:33,208 --> 00:55:35,042 It is so much known and it's so famous, 1093 00:55:35,043 --> 00:55:38,087 these diamond stars because there's such a story behind it. 1094 00:55:38,088 --> 00:55:43,343 Uh, It's such an important, beautiful story behind it. 1095 00:55:44,094 --> 00:55:47,305 They're very rare and this precious, uh, piece of jewelry 1096 00:55:47,306 --> 00:55:51,434 was-was stolen and everybody was shocked, like, "How can this happen?" 1097 00:55:54,479 --> 00:55:58,065 Sisi, the famous empress, 1098 00:55:58,066 --> 00:56:01,694 she was a wonderful, beautiful lady with long, long hair 1099 00:56:01,695 --> 00:56:05,031 and she used to adorn her hair with diamond stars. 1100 00:56:05,032 --> 00:56:09,744 And she was painted with her long hair with the stars in her hair. 1101 00:56:09,745 --> 00:56:11,787 And so, this got somehow iconic, 1102 00:56:11,788 --> 00:56:13,916 and these diamond stars are very much known. 1103 00:56:15,042 --> 00:56:17,502 - After Sisi's death and then after the monarchy, 1104 00:56:17,503 --> 00:56:20,171 it was not quite clear where all these stars went. 1105 00:56:20,172 --> 00:56:21,005 They were gone. 1106 00:56:22,090 --> 00:56:24,967 We had one of the stars. We had one of the original stars, 1107 00:56:24,968 --> 00:56:26,427 which Elisabeth wore. 1108 00:56:26,428 --> 00:56:29,514 It was just, um, a highlight of the exhibition. 1109 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,394 Alright. 1110 00:56:35,729 --> 00:56:37,688 Birdie, who are you talking to? 1111 00:56:37,689 --> 00:56:39,149 Let me see your walkie-talkie. 1112 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:40,943 And how does it work? 1113 00:56:41,652 --> 00:56:42,486 - Play. 1114 00:56:43,487 --> 00:56:45,738 And then it explains what it is. 1115 00:56:45,739 --> 00:56:47,823 Empress Elisabeth from Austria, 1116 00:56:47,824 --> 00:56:51,369 nicknamed Sisi, was known for her impossibly thin waist, 1117 00:56:51,370 --> 00:56:53,454 and incredibly long hair. 1118 00:56:53,455 --> 00:56:55,498 One of the most famous depictions of her 1119 00:56:55,499 --> 00:56:57,834 is a portrait with her hairs decorated 1120 00:56:57,835 --> 00:57:00,170 in a series of diamond and pearl stars. 1121 00:57:01,046 --> 00:57:04,049 What you see now is the last of Sisi's famous stars. 1122 00:57:06,552 --> 00:57:08,344 I just couldn't pass up the Sisi Star 1123 00:57:08,345 --> 00:57:09,470 because it was so beautiful. 1124 00:57:09,471 --> 00:57:12,265 Like, it was shining under the light, sparkling, 1125 00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:14,476 and I knew I needed to take it with me. 1126 00:57:38,876 --> 00:57:41,836 - Reported to the police, the police came, and the police searched the whole thing, 1127 00:57:41,837 --> 00:57:44,173 um, and, uh, no, there was nothing. 1128 00:57:44,756 --> 00:57:45,840 Nothing. 1129 00:57:54,308 --> 00:57:57,436 If you can't say what exactly happened, 1130 00:57:58,687 --> 00:58:03,941 there was a lot of kind of mysterious, um, stories going around. 1131 00:58:03,942 --> 00:58:05,860 - The Star was stolen, it's terrible. 1132 00:58:05,861 --> 00:58:08,863 But at least, uh, it's a very good story how it was stolen. 1133 00:58:08,864 --> 00:58:12,033 And, uh, all... in all the newspapers, uh, 1134 00:58:12,034 --> 00:58:14,328 and it's still in-in the head of everybody in Austria. 1135 00:58:15,996 --> 00:58:17,872 - Okay, I have to be careful on how I say that 1136 00:58:17,873 --> 00:58:20,917 - because if I outright say I stole it... - Right. 1137 00:58:20,918 --> 00:58:23,629 - then I could be charged in Austria for the theft. 1138 00:58:24,213 --> 00:58:26,005 So it was reported in the newspaper 1139 00:58:26,006 --> 00:58:28,257 that I had jumped out of this airplane 1140 00:58:28,258 --> 00:58:30,343 and landed on the roof of the castle. 1141 00:58:31,553 --> 00:58:32,929 This is the Hollywood version. 1142 00:58:34,473 --> 00:58:35,993 He said he was flown 1143 00:58:36,934 --> 00:58:39,977 over top of the museum, and he parachuted out. 1144 00:58:42,231 --> 00:58:43,431 No, no, no, no, no. 1145 00:58:43,649 --> 00:58:44,482 No, no, no. 1146 00:58:44,483 --> 00:58:48,819 It would be absolutely crazy to jump down with a parachute. 1147 00:58:48,820 --> 00:58:52,323 - I know there was a parachute found in the garbage in the castle, 1148 00:58:52,324 --> 00:58:55,410 and the guards have a record of the... finding a parachute. 1149 00:58:56,078 --> 00:58:57,538 - No. No, no, no. 1150 00:58:58,664 --> 00:59:01,415 We never, no, got any information about this. 1151 00:59:01,416 --> 00:59:04,126 He climbed down the side of the museum, 1152 00:59:04,127 --> 00:59:06,504 he went in through a window. 1153 00:59:06,505 --> 00:59:09,090 I don't particularly believe that part of the story. 1154 00:59:09,091 --> 00:59:12,760 - The State Department has secured from the outside. 1155 00:59:12,761 --> 00:59:15,304 So if somebody would break in the windows, 1156 00:59:15,305 --> 00:59:16,556 if you opened the windows, alarm. 1157 00:59:16,557 --> 00:59:18,349 If you walked in the room, alarm. 1158 00:59:19,726 --> 00:59:21,686 The glass case housing it 1159 00:59:21,687 --> 00:59:23,730 with the security screws were removed, 1160 00:59:24,857 --> 00:59:27,400 a pressure-sensitive, uh, device underneath 1161 00:59:27,401 --> 00:59:29,068 was somehow cheated in a way 1162 00:59:29,069 --> 00:59:31,529 that it could be replaced with a fake. 1163 00:59:31,530 --> 00:59:35,033 - It was only until two or three weeks later 1164 00:59:35,492 --> 00:59:38,369 it was determined that it was a replica from a gift shop. 1165 00:59:42,875 --> 00:59:44,877 Yeah, it was sold in the shop. 1166 00:59:45,586 --> 00:59:48,589 It was a, a shop item, best seller. 1167 00:59:49,548 --> 00:59:52,633 - I'm quite astonished that it took them such a long time 1168 00:59:52,634 --> 00:59:54,802 because, uh, 'cause it's-it's quite obvious. 1169 00:59:54,803 --> 00:59:56,179 They look really different. 1170 00:59:56,180 --> 00:59:58,515 - Um, they must have had help 1171 00:59:59,016 --> 01:00:01,934 from probably-probably even inside the palace. 1172 01:00:01,935 --> 01:00:03,519 But we-we still don't know exactly 1173 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,607 because Mr. Blanchard says he kind of did something different. 1174 01:00:07,608 --> 01:00:08,941 - Which one do I believe? 1175 01:00:08,942 --> 01:00:12,278 I believe he shoplift the, the-the gem 1176 01:00:12,279 --> 01:00:15,114 and-and, and went and switched it out. 1177 01:00:15,115 --> 01:00:19,369 I think the other thing is just to sell newspapers as they say. 1178 01:00:20,037 --> 01:00:22,496 - Actually I took it because I knew maybe someday 1179 01:00:22,497 --> 01:00:26,627 this could be a bargaining tool for future crimes that I had planned. 1180 01:00:27,419 --> 01:00:29,755 And it was a priceless item from a museum 1181 01:00:30,255 --> 01:00:31,672 and that's why I took it. 1182 01:00:31,673 --> 01:00:32,590 Plus, it looked nice. 1183 01:00:37,095 --> 01:00:39,263 It's boring to steal money, 1184 01:00:39,264 --> 01:00:42,308 but to steal a piece like that, who is doing that? 1185 01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:43,476 Nobody else in the world. 1186 01:00:43,477 --> 01:00:46,229 So you get famous if you steal the Mona Lisa, 1187 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:47,772 if you steal a Van Gogh, or whatever. 1188 01:00:47,773 --> 01:00:51,108 There-there are maybe hundred of pieces in the, in the world 1189 01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:53,027 which are really special. 1190 01:00:53,028 --> 01:00:54,403 Everybody knows them. 1191 01:00:54,404 --> 01:00:57,323 In Austria everybody knows the Sisi Stars. 1192 01:00:57,324 --> 01:01:00,368 So, you-you get somehow immortal. 1193 01:01:00,369 --> 01:01:02,411 You get, you-you... 1194 01:01:02,412 --> 01:01:05,414 You might get famous through-through doing that. 1195 01:01:05,415 --> 01:01:07,751 And he did get famous, of course. 1196 01:01:15,634 --> 01:01:17,635 We went to his grandma's house 1197 01:01:17,636 --> 01:01:20,888 and he was like, "I need to show you something." 1198 01:01:20,889 --> 01:01:21,889 And I was like, "Okay." 1199 01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:23,850 So he pulls out the diamond and he was like, 1200 01:01:23,851 --> 01:01:25,643 "This thing's worth a lot of money." 1201 01:01:25,644 --> 01:01:26,811 And I was like, "It..." 1202 01:01:26,812 --> 01:01:28,479 To me it didn't really look... 1203 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,023 Like, it looked old and kinda like grandma's jewelry, you know. 1204 01:01:31,024 --> 01:01:33,901 I was like, "Alright, well, let's get it up into the ceiling 1205 01:01:33,902 --> 01:01:35,027 "so we could get back out 1206 01:01:35,028 --> 01:01:37,613 and do whatever we were up to before that," you know? 1207 01:01:37,614 --> 01:01:39,408 I was like... I wasn't really... 1208 01:01:41,034 --> 01:01:43,119 I wasn't really too interested in it but I figured, 1209 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,746 like, he told me, "If we ever get arrested, 1210 01:01:45,747 --> 01:01:48,375 this is our ticket outta jail, so keep it between us." 1211 01:01:48,917 --> 01:01:51,545 - It wasn't until later that Interpol got information, 1212 01:01:52,045 --> 01:01:53,588 um, that he was responsible. 1213 01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:56,549 "A guy by the name of Gerald Blanchard from Canada." 1214 01:01:56,550 --> 01:01:57,675 That's all they had. 1215 01:01:57,676 --> 01:02:02,346 But it was right around that time that him and his then wife separated. 1216 01:02:02,347 --> 01:02:06,977 So, you can probably figure out where that information came from. 1217 01:02:07,561 --> 01:02:11,647 - Things changed for him pretty drastically at that point 1218 01:02:11,648 --> 01:02:15,318 after he and Ramona were divorced. 1219 01:02:18,864 --> 01:02:20,364 At that time I was married to my wife, 1220 01:02:20,365 --> 01:02:21,992 where she really didn't know 1221 01:02:22,659 --> 01:02:25,369 the type of person I was deep down inside. 1222 01:02:26,872 --> 01:02:29,248 She found out about my criminal past 1223 01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:31,709 and it was, uh, shocking to her and her family. 1224 01:02:31,710 --> 01:02:36,380 - He ended up getting into, uh, relationships 1225 01:02:36,381 --> 01:02:39,592 that, um, were more one-sided, 1226 01:02:39,593 --> 01:02:42,595 and I could tell 1227 01:02:42,596 --> 01:02:45,890 that my son looked worried and stressed. 1228 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,355 - He actually wanted me to join his Mission: Impossible team. 1229 01:02:52,356 --> 01:02:55,651 But I was too into my martial arts instead. 1230 01:02:57,236 --> 01:02:59,029 Like, uh, Canadian Wolverines. 1231 01:03:00,155 --> 01:03:01,531 Chuck Norris of Canada. 1232 01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:09,498 I would probably say my right hand person was Angela James. 1233 01:03:10,082 --> 01:03:13,709 She was my girlfriend from the past. We trusted each other. 1234 01:03:13,710 --> 01:03:16,755 We had good chemistry and we worked pretty well. 1235 01:03:17,548 --> 01:03:18,923 And she was an hon-honest girl. 1236 01:03:18,924 --> 01:03:19,924 What's wrong? 1237 01:03:19,925 --> 01:03:21,176 - Get outta here. 1238 01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:24,554 Get that thing outta my face. 1239 01:03:24,555 --> 01:03:26,013 Fuck, you do this to everyone else. 1240 01:03:26,014 --> 01:03:27,181 It can't be done to you? 1241 01:03:27,182 --> 01:03:28,516 - I don't do it to nobody. 1242 01:03:28,517 --> 01:03:29,725 - It's sitting right there. 1243 01:03:36,233 --> 01:03:39,068 I could've stopped a long time ago, 1244 01:03:39,069 --> 01:03:40,987 but you always need that thrill. 1245 01:03:40,988 --> 01:03:42,781 It's-it's actually an addiction, 1246 01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:45,950 because I've had tens of millions of dollars 1247 01:03:45,951 --> 01:03:49,371 throughout my life, and I continued doing crimes. 1248 01:03:50,664 --> 01:03:52,790 But then started spiraling out, 1249 01:03:52,791 --> 01:03:55,502 once I met Sergei, or I call him the Boss. 1250 01:03:59,381 --> 01:04:00,923 We had gone for the day, 1251 01:04:00,924 --> 01:04:04,135 and the girls in the monitoring room immediately phoned us. 1252 01:04:04,136 --> 01:04:07,763 I received a, a phone call from, uh, the United Kingdom. 1253 01:04:07,764 --> 01:04:12,602 The person had a, uh, English accent and, uh, he said, 1254 01:04:12,603 --> 01:04:14,813 "How quick can you get your crew together, Danny? 1255 01:04:15,397 --> 01:04:18,774 I need you to do somethin' for me in Cairo." Right? 1256 01:04:18,775 --> 01:04:21,694 And, whoa, what's that all about, right? 1257 01:04:47,054 --> 01:04:49,555 - He's in Vancouver, she's in Edmonton. 1258 01:04:49,556 --> 01:04:51,517 Aaron Syberg's in Manitoba. 1259 01:05:15,874 --> 01:05:18,417 - "The Boss" is the only name we ever get, 1260 01:05:18,418 --> 01:05:21,379 but we understand him to be very, very involved 1261 01:05:21,380 --> 01:05:24,006 in-in credit card fraud all across Europe. 1262 01:05:24,007 --> 01:05:26,008 And that he, this is a big fish. 1263 01:05:40,941 --> 01:05:42,316 This was a trip like, 1264 01:05:42,317 --> 01:05:44,902 "I want you moving tomorrow." 1265 01:05:44,903 --> 01:05:48,072 That's the level of urgency that there was to that call. 1266 01:05:48,073 --> 01:05:50,575 - As soon as he hung up the phone with the Boss, 1267 01:05:50,576 --> 01:05:52,953 he was on his... he was the phone to Angela James. 1268 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:01,919 - She's, uh, you know, a little bit beside herself, 1269 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,379 doesn't know what to do, 1270 01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:05,631 and Danny says, "Well, put your mom on the phone." 1271 01:06:05,632 --> 01:06:10,679 And perfectly describes what they're going to be doing. 1272 01:06:35,913 --> 01:06:39,291 - He also included a, a person by the name of Balume Kashongwe. 1273 01:07:01,313 --> 01:07:04,273 - From the time the phone call came in from the Boss 1274 01:07:04,274 --> 01:07:08,361 to the time he was on a plane on his way to Heathrow and then Cairo 1275 01:07:08,362 --> 01:07:10,363 was probably within days or hours. 1276 01:07:10,364 --> 01:07:12,657 Now we're scrambling, trying to cover that, 1277 01:07:12,658 --> 01:07:14,700 trying to, to gather the evidence 1278 01:07:14,701 --> 01:07:17,453 and not really having enough time to put everything in place. 1279 01:07:29,508 --> 01:07:30,509 - Alright, thank you. 1280 01:07:32,678 --> 01:07:35,346 They find Saddam Hussein underground. 1281 01:07:35,347 --> 01:07:36,472 - We'll catch him. 1282 01:07:36,473 --> 01:07:38,057 - They will catch the rat. - Yeah. 1283 01:07:38,058 --> 01:07:39,392 The rat, they will catch the rat. 1284 01:07:39,393 --> 01:07:43,104 We'll catch the rat, we'll kill the enemy. 1285 01:07:43,105 --> 01:07:45,439 Kill them. You know? 1286 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,568 - America, it's like a movie, Hollywood. - Yeah. 1287 01:07:48,569 --> 01:07:52,029 - They believe the magic more than the truth. - Eh. Eh. 1288 01:07:55,492 --> 01:07:56,852 What are you looking at? 1289 01:07:58,036 --> 01:07:58,912 - My ticket. 1290 01:08:00,873 --> 01:08:02,353 And where are you gonna go? 1291 01:08:02,624 --> 01:08:04,744 - Back home. BLANCHARD: Ha, ha, that's what you think. 1292 01:08:05,961 --> 01:08:07,587 So we land in Cairo. 1293 01:08:07,588 --> 01:08:09,881 We contacted the Boss back in England, 1294 01:08:09,882 --> 01:08:12,633 and we're all going to start hitting these ATM machines 1295 01:08:12,634 --> 01:08:14,010 using these debit cards. 1296 01:08:14,011 --> 01:08:15,720 They had credit card recorders 1297 01:08:15,721 --> 01:08:18,139 that they had machines that imprinted credit cards, 1298 01:08:18,140 --> 01:08:21,934 and he went with people to ATMs across Cairo... 1299 01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:26,689 Stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars. 1300 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,821 There goes Dan the man. 1301 01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:35,811 That's him? BOSS' ASSOCIATE: With the master plan. 1302 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,204 And we were just standing there 1303 01:08:41,205 --> 01:08:44,582 for hours and hours until the machines ran out of money. 1304 01:08:46,001 --> 01:08:49,086 After we went for the day, we'd bring all these duffel bags in, 1305 01:08:49,087 --> 01:08:50,671 empty them in the bathtub. 1306 01:08:50,672 --> 01:08:53,299 The bathtub was completely filled with money. 1307 01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:55,886 There was a lot, there was a pile of money. 1308 01:08:56,512 --> 01:08:58,805 - Obviously they were very successful. 1309 01:08:59,890 --> 01:09:02,975 There's video that shows an individual 1310 01:09:02,976 --> 01:09:05,144 sitting in a closet counting money 1311 01:09:05,145 --> 01:09:08,315 and, uh, as the camera veers in you can see, 1312 01:09:08,815 --> 01:09:13,403 uh, you know, a pile like three feet by three feet high of stacked money. 1313 01:09:14,154 --> 01:09:15,696 Uh, they were obviously having fun. 1314 01:09:15,697 --> 01:09:17,949 - Uh, we got some pretty specific information 1315 01:09:17,950 --> 01:09:20,076 in that Danny was dressed in a burka, 1316 01:09:20,077 --> 01:09:23,496 which is the typical customary dress of, uh, Muslim women, 1317 01:09:23,497 --> 01:09:27,042 so that he wouldn't be identifiable on any of the video that might exist. 1318 01:09:27,626 --> 01:09:30,461 So there was this man from small-town Omaha 1319 01:09:30,462 --> 01:09:33,548 committing frauds that were fairy-tale like. 1320 01:09:33,549 --> 01:09:35,341 He dressed in a burka. 1321 01:09:35,342 --> 01:09:36,552 - So everything was good. 1322 01:09:37,219 --> 01:09:39,805 But Balume Kashongwe decided to 1323 01:09:40,764 --> 01:09:42,474 take some of the Boss' cards, 1324 01:09:43,308 --> 01:09:45,226 take some of the Boss' money, 1325 01:09:45,227 --> 01:09:49,355 and skedaddle off to, uh, another point in Africa. 1326 01:09:49,356 --> 01:09:52,316 This didn't sit well with the Boss, right? 1327 01:09:52,317 --> 01:09:55,653 And, uh, you know, Danny was gettin' some pressure for this. 1328 01:09:56,864 --> 01:09:58,197 We should go see if Ken's here. 1329 01:10:01,201 --> 01:10:02,034 The door. 1330 01:10:26,101 --> 01:10:28,436 I said, what, did Mom and Dad grab my money? 1331 01:10:28,437 --> 01:10:30,771 - Ken took that money and bought blood diamonds. 1332 01:10:30,772 --> 01:10:34,734 He jumped on a plane to Paris and was thrown in immigration jail. 1333 01:10:34,735 --> 01:10:37,362 They found the diamonds and they got seized. 1334 01:10:38,113 --> 01:10:40,239 Now, I had no idea where Ken was. 1335 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,700 He just stopped answering the phone. He just vanished. 1336 01:10:42,701 --> 01:10:44,035 - Blanchard was very amped up. 1337 01:10:44,036 --> 01:10:45,369 He was... He sound concerned. 1338 01:10:45,370 --> 01:10:49,373 He said the guy that he was with had taken off with the credit cards, 1339 01:10:49,374 --> 01:10:52,835 that the Boss didn't know where he was, and he was now threatening 1340 01:10:52,836 --> 01:10:55,756 both Blanchard and Balume with physical harm. 1341 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,312 - Oh, he's scared. 1342 01:11:11,313 --> 01:11:13,439 He's scared that, you know, "If they don't find him, 1343 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:14,982 they're gonna find me." 1344 01:11:14,983 --> 01:11:17,777 - I'm sure he figured that Balume would be killed 1345 01:11:17,778 --> 01:11:18,986 because now there was guns 1346 01:11:18,987 --> 01:11:22,949 and now there was things where he felt uncomfortable and threatened 1347 01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:24,992 and was worried for his safety. 1348 01:11:24,993 --> 01:11:26,744 The Boss, he was freaking out thinking 1349 01:11:26,745 --> 01:11:28,746 maybe we were going to stiff him 1350 01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:31,123 for millions of dollars we had from Cairo. 1351 01:11:31,124 --> 01:11:35,546 So he sent another crew in from Cairo to babysit us. 1352 01:11:36,255 --> 01:11:37,213 Sit down. 1353 01:11:40,217 --> 01:11:41,509 They're basically his muscle. 1354 01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:43,219 They're like gangsters, you could call them. 1355 01:11:43,220 --> 01:11:45,137 Like, they look like killers. 1356 01:11:47,266 --> 01:11:48,558 It was pretty clear to him 1357 01:11:48,559 --> 01:11:52,395 that the London boss was more than just a fraudster. 1358 01:11:52,396 --> 01:11:56,524 I learned that he was the figurehead, 1359 01:11:56,525 --> 01:11:59,110 the leader of a criminal organization 1360 01:11:59,111 --> 01:12:03,030 to fund terrorist activities in the Middle East. 1361 01:12:03,031 --> 01:12:04,073 That's what I learned. 1362 01:12:06,535 --> 01:12:08,619 So Gerald's stuck in Cairo now. 1363 01:12:08,620 --> 01:12:10,496 The Boss not letting him go. 1364 01:12:10,497 --> 01:12:13,791 They let Angela go home, but they kept Blanchard there. 1365 01:12:13,792 --> 01:12:15,502 So I think he was pretty worried. 1366 01:12:21,466 --> 01:12:22,718 Sit down! 1367 01:12:28,849 --> 01:12:31,517 - I think he appreciated that the Boss was not fooling around 1368 01:12:31,518 --> 01:12:33,811 and not making vacant threats. 1369 01:12:33,812 --> 01:12:37,356 - He's got himself into something now and he doesn't know how to get out of it. 1370 01:12:37,357 --> 01:12:41,320 - And what he had to do was figure out another scheme to steal money. 1371 01:12:55,209 --> 01:12:57,710 He was upset and he didn't know if he could trust us. 1372 01:12:57,711 --> 01:13:01,839 I said, "There's just so much more money we could make than fighting over 1373 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,052 a lousy $100,000 that's missing from Ken." 1374 01:13:30,661 --> 01:13:32,203 He lands in Vancouver, 1375 01:13:32,204 --> 01:13:36,958 but he doesn't do what we expect and-and go to his residence and sleep. 1376 01:13:36,959 --> 01:13:40,002 He actually drives 90 miles inland, 1377 01:13:40,003 --> 01:13:42,923 and he attends to a bank there that's under construction. 1378 01:13:43,841 --> 01:13:47,093 And we know this because he receives a phone call from the London Boss. 1379 01:13:47,094 --> 01:13:52,139 The London Boss is very upset. Very upset because the three guys 1380 01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:56,686 that he just flew from Heathrow to Montreal, 1381 01:13:56,687 --> 01:13:59,021 he learned are now being deported. 1382 01:14:54,453 --> 01:14:56,413 - And now that call, 1383 01:14:56,955 --> 01:14:59,332 'cause now he's doing somethin' in Canada 1384 01:14:59,333 --> 01:15:01,918 and he's also doing something like what we're trying to investigate. 1385 01:15:01,919 --> 01:15:03,002 - It's beautiful. 1386 01:15:03,003 --> 01:15:07,423 It's absolutely... It was our crown jewel. 1387 01:15:07,424 --> 01:15:10,843 Here he was in a venting system 1388 01:15:10,844 --> 01:15:14,013 in the process of doing another bank. 1389 01:15:14,014 --> 01:15:16,266 And we wanted to catch him in the act, 1390 01:15:16,975 --> 01:15:20,686 and I found out exactly where that cell phone tower was 1391 01:15:20,687 --> 01:15:22,146 and made a circle. 1392 01:15:22,147 --> 01:15:25,775 - And lo and behold, here's this Scotiabank under construction. 1393 01:15:25,776 --> 01:15:26,817 We were able to confirm 1394 01:15:26,818 --> 01:15:29,111 that there was a projected grand opening 1395 01:15:29,112 --> 01:15:31,197 about eight weeks down the road, 1396 01:15:31,198 --> 01:15:34,033 and everything fit that fit his MO. 1397 01:15:34,034 --> 01:15:36,869 - So we start formulating a plan on how we're gonna take him down 1398 01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:38,287 and how we're gonna surveil him. 1399 01:15:38,288 --> 01:15:39,768 - It just cemented everything for us. 1400 01:15:48,131 --> 01:15:49,549 - There was lots of things going on with Gerald. 1401 01:15:49,550 --> 01:15:52,051 I know he-he was talking about how he couldn't sleep. 1402 01:15:52,052 --> 01:15:53,970 He was so anxious and I'm sure he was worried 1403 01:15:53,971 --> 01:15:57,640 about, you know, the Boss, who is really not this nice guy. 1404 01:15:57,641 --> 01:16:00,226 "But I'm pretty much, now I'm entrenched with him. 1405 01:16:00,227 --> 01:16:01,727 Like, what do I do?" 1406 01:16:01,728 --> 01:16:04,021 And he must be thinking in the back of his head that, 1407 01:16:04,022 --> 01:16:07,108 "The police may know more and-and I'm on a short leash." 1408 01:16:23,542 --> 01:16:26,169 - His, uh, future would've looked very bleak 1409 01:16:26,170 --> 01:16:28,754 either paying a debt to the London Boss 1410 01:16:28,755 --> 01:16:31,257 with either his skin or money, 1411 01:16:31,258 --> 01:16:35,052 and/or worrying about, uh, law enforcement. 1412 01:16:35,053 --> 01:16:37,930 - This was serious stuff, and, and I think at that point in time 1413 01:16:37,931 --> 01:16:39,224 that's really scared him, 1414 01:16:39,975 --> 01:16:42,560 and, uh, it was way over his head. 1415 01:16:50,110 --> 01:16:52,153 Thank you for calling Canada Police. 1416 01:16:52,154 --> 01:16:55,323 - Oh, I felt the pressure closing in, and I felt the doors closing in, 1417 01:16:55,324 --> 01:16:58,744 being followed 24/7, your phone acting strangely. 1418 01:16:59,494 --> 01:17:01,746 So you just basically, you're waiting 1419 01:17:01,747 --> 01:17:03,540 for an endless day for them to come. 1420 01:17:04,791 --> 01:17:06,667 - And we wanna take him down 1421 01:17:06,668 --> 01:17:09,504 inside the bank in the process of breaking in. 1422 01:17:09,505 --> 01:17:11,547 But then we're blindsided by this information 1423 01:17:11,548 --> 01:17:13,174 that comes in through his text messages. 1424 01:17:13,175 --> 01:17:15,676 He's now involved in trafficking of firearms. 1425 01:17:15,677 --> 01:17:17,845 - Yeah, that's right. We got blindsided a little bit. 1426 01:17:17,846 --> 01:17:20,097 We intercepted some more information, 1427 01:17:20,098 --> 01:17:25,728 and it, it was very clear that Danny was middle-manning an arms deal. 1428 01:17:28,524 --> 01:17:30,650 And the information continued to come in. 1429 01:17:30,651 --> 01:17:32,652 "When are you getting 'em? When are they coming?" 1430 01:17:32,653 --> 01:17:36,739 And at some point in time we even saw pictures of the AK-47s. 1431 01:17:39,201 --> 01:17:41,077 And we ended up having eventually 1432 01:17:41,078 --> 01:17:43,704 seeing that Blanchard was buying ammunition. 1433 01:17:43,705 --> 01:17:45,998 - Well, when I started reaching out 1434 01:17:45,999 --> 01:17:48,376 to the so-called Boss from England, 1435 01:17:48,377 --> 01:17:51,629 I started branching out into different types of crimes. 1436 01:17:51,630 --> 01:17:53,298 My motivation was greed. 1437 01:17:54,174 --> 01:17:56,759 Other people's motivations in the UK 1438 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,971 were to help their own people regarding a war, 1439 01:17:59,972 --> 01:18:01,597 which I had nothing to do with. 1440 01:18:01,598 --> 01:18:05,351 - He turned the tables on us by being involved in this arms deal. 1441 01:18:05,352 --> 01:18:08,229 - So Larry and Mitch thought this arms deal 1442 01:18:08,230 --> 01:18:10,898 was illegal, and it wasn't. 1443 01:18:10,899 --> 01:18:13,860 I was never charged with shipping ammunition. 1444 01:18:13,861 --> 01:18:18,239 I was never charged for possession of unregistered firearms. 1445 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,867 - We couldn't take the chance of those guns ending up 1446 01:18:20,868 --> 01:18:22,493 in the streets of Winnipeg. 1447 01:18:22,494 --> 01:18:24,454 What if people would've died from that? 1448 01:18:24,913 --> 01:18:27,194 They'd also said that you had a rocket launcher? 1449 01:18:28,250 --> 01:18:30,794 I have no comment. 1450 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,755 - We wanted to catch him in the act 1451 01:18:34,756 --> 01:18:37,258 the night before the, the grand opening. 1452 01:18:37,259 --> 01:18:39,761 - The plan was that we would wait 1453 01:18:40,387 --> 01:18:43,389 till Gerald drove to the bank, got in the bank, 1454 01:18:43,390 --> 01:18:45,391 and then that we would arrest him, 1455 01:18:45,392 --> 01:18:48,519 which would be the-the-the signal 1456 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,355 that everybody else would now execute their search warrants 1457 01:18:51,356 --> 01:18:52,899 and arrest all their people. 1458 01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:56,068 And it would go simultaneously so nobody could contact the other. 1459 01:18:56,069 --> 01:18:57,528 So at a certain time in the morning, 1460 01:18:57,529 --> 01:19:00,407 I can't remember if it was 5:30 Vancouver time or what it was, 1461 01:19:01,116 --> 01:19:03,409 it was obvious that he wasn't driving to Chilliwack. 1462 01:19:06,038 --> 01:19:08,915 I noticed there was a lot more police presence 1463 01:19:08,916 --> 01:19:11,083 around that particular bank. 1464 01:19:11,084 --> 01:19:13,878 There was always an undercover car sitting close by, 1465 01:19:13,879 --> 01:19:16,589 so I decided to not do anything. 1466 01:19:16,590 --> 01:19:18,758 We found out later that he actually was able to tap 1467 01:19:18,759 --> 01:19:22,595 into the bank surveillance cameras at the bank 1468 01:19:22,596 --> 01:19:24,222 and saw somebody that looked like a cop. 1469 01:19:25,432 --> 01:19:27,600 So a decision was made at that point 1470 01:19:27,601 --> 01:19:29,102 that we would arrest him 1471 01:19:29,686 --> 01:19:32,647 on, uh, on the evidence that-that we had. 1472 01:19:32,648 --> 01:19:35,484 - The authorization was to go... Is to hit his place, 1473 01:19:36,652 --> 01:19:38,819 arrest everybody across Canada, 1474 01:19:38,820 --> 01:19:40,613 and do the search warrants all at the same time. 1475 01:19:40,614 --> 01:19:41,572 Bang, bang, bang. 1476 01:19:41,573 --> 01:19:44,367 ♪ House of the Rising Sun by Chase Holfelder playing ♪ 1477 01:19:44,368 --> 01:19:47,871 - ♪ There is a house ♪ 1478 01:19:48,622 --> 01:19:51,416 ♪ In New Orleans ♪ 1479 01:19:52,626 --> 01:19:58,632 ♪ They call the Rising Sun ♪ 1480 01:20:00,843 --> 01:20:05,012 ♪ And it's been the ruin ♪ 1481 01:20:05,013 --> 01:20:09,058 ♪ Of many a poor boy ♪ 1482 01:20:09,059 --> 01:20:11,018 ♪ And God ♪ 1483 01:20:11,019 --> 01:20:13,104 ♪ I know ♪ 1484 01:20:13,105 --> 01:20:14,815 ♪ I'm one ♪ 1485 01:20:17,276 --> 01:20:19,569 ♪ My mother... ♪ 1486 01:20:19,570 --> 01:20:21,404 The first time I met Larry and Mitch 1487 01:20:21,405 --> 01:20:24,782 was when the emergency task force 1488 01:20:24,783 --> 01:20:28,786 broke down my apartment door and they pulled me outta bed, 1489 01:20:28,787 --> 01:20:30,663 stuck their knee in my neck. 1490 01:20:30,664 --> 01:20:33,207 And they were like, "You're going back to Winnipeg with us." 1491 01:20:33,208 --> 01:20:34,542 And I was like, "For what?" 1492 01:20:34,543 --> 01:20:39,380 And they were like, "For theft of the money from the CIBC Bank." 1493 01:20:39,381 --> 01:20:42,258 - ♪ ...gamblin' man ♪ 1494 01:20:42,259 --> 01:20:48,139 ♪ Down in New Orleans ♪ 1495 01:20:57,524 --> 01:20:59,275 - I had no clue that morning 1496 01:20:59,276 --> 01:21:03,614 that that was gonna be a life changer for, for all of us. 1497 01:21:04,323 --> 01:21:06,909 And it was. When he called and said, 1498 01:21:07,659 --> 01:21:09,328 "Mom, I've been arrested." 1499 01:21:11,121 --> 01:21:12,456 I was terrified, 1500 01:21:13,916 --> 01:21:15,625 and I was desperate. 1501 01:21:17,503 --> 01:21:21,882 It was difficult for me to try and carry on life 1502 01:21:23,467 --> 01:21:27,971 as usual or as normal with him there. 1503 01:21:29,681 --> 01:21:30,681 Sorry. 1504 01:21:39,191 --> 01:21:40,775 The best sleep was the first night 1505 01:21:40,776 --> 01:21:42,985 in jail after I was arrested. 1506 01:21:42,986 --> 01:21:44,987 All the pressure and the stress of 1507 01:21:44,988 --> 01:21:48,116 playing cat and mouse was over. 1508 01:21:49,326 --> 01:21:51,452 - Sad, I find it very sad. 1509 01:21:51,453 --> 01:21:55,958 But on the other hand, he lived the life that he chose, 1510 01:21:56,667 --> 01:21:59,710 uh, which many people cannot do and never do do. 1511 01:21:59,711 --> 01:22:02,630 Um, he came across on his fantasies. 1512 01:22:02,631 --> 01:22:05,591 He actually realized them in many, many ways, 1513 01:22:05,592 --> 01:22:07,176 which most people don't. 1514 01:22:07,177 --> 01:22:08,469 And who caught him? 1515 01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:10,721 A Walmart security guard. 1516 01:22:10,722 --> 01:22:12,642 That's what it comes down to. 1517 01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:15,727 One Walmart security guard. 1518 01:22:16,353 --> 01:22:17,478 It's not true. 1519 01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,147 I feel like I'm very confident at what I do, 1520 01:22:20,148 --> 01:22:22,567 and I knew they didn't have any information 1521 01:22:22,568 --> 01:22:25,779 other than that might be the guy who stole the money from the bank. 1522 01:22:26,780 --> 01:22:30,033 The police made it seem like, "Oh, it was the license plate of the Walmart." 1523 01:22:30,617 --> 01:22:32,244 It wasn't. It was John Doe. 1524 01:22:33,871 --> 01:22:36,747 John Doe was actually the one that went into the bank with me 1525 01:22:36,748 --> 01:22:38,416 to unload the ATM machines. 1526 01:22:38,417 --> 01:22:40,585 He went behind everyone's back at that time, 1527 01:22:40,586 --> 01:22:42,003 and to make a deal with the police 1528 01:22:42,004 --> 01:22:45,173 to get off on his federal gun charges in the States, 1529 01:22:45,174 --> 01:22:47,384 telling the police how the bank happened, 1530 01:22:48,010 --> 01:22:51,012 and that gave them enough information to get warrants, 1531 01:22:51,013 --> 01:22:52,305 tap our phones. 1532 01:22:52,306 --> 01:22:56,100 But the police can't discuss that because he's a confidential informant. 1533 01:22:56,101 --> 01:23:00,189 One day he'll have his day in street court, we can call it. 1534 01:23:02,441 --> 01:23:04,692 I think he'll be left in a field somewhere. 1535 01:23:08,030 --> 01:23:10,740 My lawyer said it was one of the most intense interrogations 1536 01:23:10,741 --> 01:23:12,033 that he had seen, 1537 01:23:12,034 --> 01:23:14,952 but they were willing to, like, completely destroy my family's life 1538 01:23:14,953 --> 01:23:17,998 to get me to talk about... about Dan. 1539 01:23:39,978 --> 01:23:41,298 Well, I know, Aaron. 1540 01:23:44,191 --> 01:23:47,485 - I think it's Mitch, the shorter one with the mustache. 1541 01:23:47,486 --> 01:23:50,488 He took me in the hallway and he said, "Look, man, I wish you the best of luck." 1542 01:23:50,489 --> 01:23:53,449 He-he said to me, "You know, we really thought that you were gonna be the one 1543 01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:56,118 "to-to crack and give us what we want, 1544 01:23:56,119 --> 01:23:58,664 but, uh, I guess you're not, you know?" 1545 01:24:36,618 --> 01:24:39,287 - Well, I felt betrayal when it came to Angela 1546 01:24:39,288 --> 01:24:41,372 cooperating with the police. 1547 01:24:41,373 --> 01:24:44,125 But you know what? I'm a forgiveful type of person. 1548 01:24:46,753 --> 01:24:51,008 And then once everybody was arrested, when Angela James spilled the beans, 1549 01:24:51,425 --> 01:24:53,135 that was the nail in the coffin. 1550 01:24:53,552 --> 01:24:55,303 Had she kept her mouth shut, 1551 01:24:55,304 --> 01:24:58,682 I really don't think they would've really had a case against any of us. 1552 01:24:59,349 --> 01:25:02,019 But it only took one leak... one weak chain 1553 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,940 in the link and it all crumbled. 1554 01:25:38,472 --> 01:25:42,892 - So Angie was scared after she cooperated with the police and told them 1555 01:25:42,893 --> 01:25:45,770 that she feels that she could be in danger. 1556 01:25:45,771 --> 01:25:49,649 And the reason why she felt that is 'cause she knows the type of person I am. 1557 01:25:49,650 --> 01:25:51,484 If somebody double crosses me, 1558 01:25:51,485 --> 01:25:53,903 I'll get them back one way or the other. 1559 01:25:53,904 --> 01:25:55,363 She said to the police, 1560 01:25:55,364 --> 01:25:58,324 "I saw Dan crawl into a mirror in the middle of the night 1561 01:25:58,325 --> 01:26:00,368 "and come out with all this money 1562 01:26:00,369 --> 01:26:02,328 and all this electronic stuff." 1563 01:26:02,329 --> 01:26:04,997 So the police smashed all my mirrors and all my drywalls 1564 01:26:04,998 --> 01:26:07,458 and found the safe room hidden behind a mirror. 1565 01:26:07,459 --> 01:26:11,255 - But what we found was that he actually had two hidden rooms. 1566 01:26:11,922 --> 01:26:14,841 The entry to it was concealed behind a mirrored wall. 1567 01:26:14,842 --> 01:26:17,760 Uh, you know, there was a pressure switch to-to get in there, 1568 01:26:17,761 --> 01:26:19,721 and it was full of evidence. 1569 01:26:20,514 --> 01:26:22,598 He kept records of everything he had done 1570 01:26:22,599 --> 01:26:23,683 and what he bought. 1571 01:26:23,684 --> 01:26:27,061 He had literally thousands of physical keys. 1572 01:26:27,062 --> 01:26:30,398 Video and memory sticks and phones, and... 1573 01:26:30,399 --> 01:26:33,067 There was cash and lots of it. 1574 01:26:33,068 --> 01:26:35,611 He had the security guard uniforms. 1575 01:26:35,612 --> 01:26:38,030 All his ID, all his phony ID. 1576 01:26:38,031 --> 01:26:40,533 Files on all the different aliases. 1577 01:26:40,534 --> 01:26:43,619 - We had cops driving a U-Haul van back 1578 01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:46,789 from Vancouver to Winnipeg loaded with exhibits, right? 1579 01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:49,458 - But more importantly, what the gem were was all his video. 1580 01:26:49,459 --> 01:26:51,335 He videotaped everything. 1581 01:26:51,336 --> 01:26:52,170 'Cause he... 1582 01:26:52,171 --> 01:26:55,214 He recorded everything to his own detriment. 1583 01:26:55,215 --> 01:26:56,508 That's his downfall. 1584 01:26:57,426 --> 01:26:58,676 He kept everything. 1585 01:26:58,677 --> 01:27:00,553 - I picked the strongest charges, 1586 01:27:00,554 --> 01:27:05,266 the most undermining in terms of his criminal organizations, 1587 01:27:05,267 --> 01:27:07,435 uh, the ones that carried the greatest sanctions. 1588 01:27:07,436 --> 01:27:09,437 - He was going to be convicted, 1589 01:27:09,438 --> 01:27:13,107 and he was gonna be convicted of a number of significant charges. 1590 01:27:13,108 --> 01:27:17,945 - The maximum sentence on, on some of those charges... 1591 01:27:17,946 --> 01:27:19,363 - The phrase the judge used 1592 01:27:19,364 --> 01:27:22,533 is, uh, the total, uh, number of years he could face. 1593 01:27:22,534 --> 01:27:24,119 - Life imprisonment. 1594 01:27:24,828 --> 01:27:26,704 - One hundred and sixty eight years. 1595 01:27:31,710 --> 01:27:33,336 The first time I talked to Gerald, 1596 01:27:33,337 --> 01:27:35,922 it was in a, uh, interview office setting. 1597 01:27:35,923 --> 01:27:38,299 And you're thinking, "Well, this guy's gonna have the weight of the world. 1598 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:39,759 "He's, you know, he's gonna go to jail a long time. 1599 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:40,927 The police have..." 1600 01:27:40,928 --> 01:27:42,429 No, it was just kind of like, 1601 01:27:43,138 --> 01:27:46,058 kinda matter of fact and-and feeling good about everything, 1602 01:27:46,517 --> 01:27:48,226 kinda jovial almost. 1603 01:27:48,227 --> 01:27:51,354 - We had amassed an incredible amount of evidence against him 1604 01:27:51,355 --> 01:27:53,397 that came from various jurisdictions. 1605 01:27:53,398 --> 01:27:56,651 We had individuals who were prepared to testify against him. 1606 01:27:56,652 --> 01:27:59,529 So we had a very, very strong case against Mr. Blanchard, 1607 01:27:59,530 --> 01:28:00,738 and he knew it. 1608 01:28:02,366 --> 01:28:04,075 Look, we've got troubles here, 1609 01:28:04,076 --> 01:28:07,454 so, you know, what is it that we have 1610 01:28:08,038 --> 01:28:11,249 that the prosecution might be interested in? 1611 01:28:11,250 --> 01:28:13,209 And at that point he said, "Well, you know, 1612 01:28:13,210 --> 01:28:16,713 what about full restitution and, uh, a diamond that was stolen?" 1613 01:28:17,798 --> 01:28:20,925 Well, you know, I... he hadn't told me about that yet. 1614 01:28:20,926 --> 01:28:24,179 - So we ended up going to, uh, his grandma's house 1615 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,431 where he said he had the, uh, Sisi Star hidden. 1616 01:28:31,103 --> 01:28:34,188 I made sure that he understood 1617 01:28:34,189 --> 01:28:36,023 that if it wasn't there, 1618 01:28:36,024 --> 01:28:39,443 we were gonna have a lot of trouble securing cooperation 1619 01:28:39,444 --> 01:28:41,153 from that point forward. 1620 01:28:41,154 --> 01:28:42,572 - Well, I didn't have very much money, if any, 1621 01:28:42,573 --> 01:28:45,032 but I would've bet that he didn't have it. 1622 01:28:45,033 --> 01:28:48,744 You've gotta think that this guy is notoriously an escape artist. 1623 01:28:48,745 --> 01:28:50,288 So, like, he was handcuffed. 1624 01:28:50,289 --> 01:28:51,831 There was one guy sittin' beside him 1625 01:28:51,832 --> 01:28:54,125 and-and, you know, two in the front 1626 01:28:54,126 --> 01:28:56,003 and he wasn't gettin' away. 1627 01:28:58,422 --> 01:28:59,255 Hello, Grandma. 1628 01:28:59,256 --> 01:29:00,673 - There's something behind. 1629 01:29:00,674 --> 01:29:01,799 This is my Grandma from... 1630 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,010 We knocked on Grandma's door and we go in there. 1631 01:29:04,011 --> 01:29:07,722 But Gerald immediately goes to the far end of the crawl space 1632 01:29:07,723 --> 01:29:10,434 and he starts pulling out the Styrofoam. 1633 01:29:11,018 --> 01:29:14,228 There was a cutout where something was. 1634 01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:16,689 Larry pulled that out and there was that Sisi Star. 1635 01:29:20,944 --> 01:29:24,822 - There was certainly a media release that we had recovered this item, 1636 01:29:24,823 --> 01:29:27,575 and that sparked interest all over the world. 1637 01:29:34,208 --> 01:29:36,667 There was a theft of a royal crown jewel, 1638 01:29:36,668 --> 01:29:41,173 and it was recovered in Winnipeg and we had it, right? 1639 01:29:42,174 --> 01:29:45,343 So it absolutely was, it was notorious. 1640 01:29:49,890 --> 01:29:51,265 Larry and Mitch were excited 1641 01:29:51,266 --> 01:29:54,560 because they never had anything like this in their life. 1642 01:29:54,561 --> 01:29:57,063 So they wanted to let the media know that, 1643 01:29:57,064 --> 01:29:59,315 "Hey, here are these two cops from Winnipeg 1644 01:29:59,316 --> 01:30:01,734 "that caught this international jewel thief, 1645 01:30:01,735 --> 01:30:04,987 man of mystery, criminal genius," et cetera, et cetera. 1646 01:30:04,988 --> 01:30:09,034 And that's why there was so much worldwide attention regarding my case. 1647 01:30:10,202 --> 01:30:13,246 - Look, normally when you do this job, 1648 01:30:13,247 --> 01:30:15,831 you don't want the press. 1649 01:30:15,832 --> 01:30:18,376 But if you imagine yourself as this romantic figure 1650 01:30:18,377 --> 01:30:20,337 that I-I think he did, 1651 01:30:20,879 --> 01:30:22,840 that sense of-of being known 1652 01:30:23,465 --> 01:30:27,009 was very, uh, intoxicating for him. 1653 01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,390 Now, he had this audience that was 1654 01:30:32,391 --> 01:30:36,185 aware of some of his capacity, 1655 01:30:36,186 --> 01:30:39,063 and, uh, he-he could not help himself, 1656 01:30:39,064 --> 01:30:41,984 but had to talk about everything. 1657 01:30:42,484 --> 01:30:44,861 Things that the police didn't know anything about, 1658 01:30:44,862 --> 01:30:46,320 he was telling them about. 1659 01:30:46,321 --> 01:30:47,864 He told us all how he did it, 1660 01:30:47,865 --> 01:30:51,785 the planning, what he used, why he did things. 1661 01:30:52,286 --> 01:30:54,370 - We still didn't know about the covert cameras 1662 01:30:54,371 --> 01:30:55,455 or listening devices. 1663 01:30:56,039 --> 01:30:58,292 He explained where they were. 1664 01:30:58,792 --> 01:31:00,543 - You know, you talk to a guy and he admits to it, 1665 01:31:00,544 --> 01:31:01,878 that-that's one thing. 1666 01:31:01,879 --> 01:31:03,880 But when he goes into the finite details 1667 01:31:03,881 --> 01:31:06,383 of all the preparation and that he did, 1668 01:31:07,009 --> 01:31:08,509 that's something you don't see. 1669 01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,473 It's-it's all about that ego, 1670 01:31:14,474 --> 01:31:19,687 that desire to be known as, uh, the best and most interesting. 1671 01:31:19,688 --> 01:31:22,982 And, uh, that he was a, a success, 1672 01:31:22,983 --> 01:31:27,279 and he wanted to be a success that was recognized by the world. 1673 01:31:28,447 --> 01:31:30,448 - In the end I think I won 1674 01:31:30,449 --> 01:31:33,201 because it was my public persona 1675 01:31:33,202 --> 01:31:37,164 and my image that they created that got me where I am today. 1676 01:31:38,415 --> 01:31:40,709 So when I was in prison, I was a superstar. 1677 01:31:43,337 --> 01:31:45,463 He's been described as a criminal mastermind, 1678 01:31:45,464 --> 01:31:46,839 an international jewel thief. 1679 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,885 There was this persona of Gerald Blanchard 1680 01:31:50,886 --> 01:31:54,347 being a mastermind thief. 1681 01:31:54,348 --> 01:31:56,807 And I think it really captured 1682 01:31:56,808 --> 01:32:00,521 the-the, the imagination is because it was real. 1683 01:32:01,647 --> 01:32:03,105 It was real. 1684 01:32:05,526 --> 01:32:07,944 I think also his ego is enormous. 1685 01:32:07,945 --> 01:32:11,030 And I think satisfaction was given to that ego 1686 01:32:11,031 --> 01:32:12,406 and fueled that ego. 1687 01:32:12,407 --> 01:32:14,992 He knew that he was notorious. 1688 01:32:14,993 --> 01:32:16,702 And it's my understanding 1689 01:32:16,703 --> 01:32:19,622 that he tried to author a book about this. 1690 01:32:19,623 --> 01:32:23,459 He's more than happy to contribute his name to, uh, films. 1691 01:32:23,460 --> 01:32:26,045 - Well, when Warner Brothers did the option agreement, 1692 01:32:26,046 --> 01:32:28,339 Zac Efron, was supposed to play me. 1693 01:32:28,340 --> 01:32:31,093 But when that movie got shelved, I was okay with it. 1694 01:32:32,261 --> 01:32:33,761 - Documentaries. 1695 01:32:33,762 --> 01:32:35,513 I mean, I think you can see that yourself. 1696 01:32:35,514 --> 01:32:39,892 He-he is very good at showing off what he did and who he is. 1697 01:32:41,854 --> 01:32:45,523 You can rob five or six banks and never become famous, 1698 01:32:45,524 --> 01:32:48,318 but do what Gerald Blanchard did, and you're a star. 1699 01:32:48,944 --> 01:32:51,153 You'll be remembered, you'll be documented, 1700 01:32:51,154 --> 01:32:54,992 you'll be filmed, you'll be in every newspaper in the world as he was. 1701 01:32:55,993 --> 01:32:59,078 So, I mean, he got exactly what he wanted. 1702 01:32:59,079 --> 01:33:00,746 Notoriety, fame, and money. 1703 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,720 You are curious as to where he's gone from here. 1704 01:33:46,168 --> 01:33:48,086 I don't think he has the ability to stop. 1705 01:33:48,837 --> 01:33:52,507 If it's, if it's not, uh, actively doing it, 1706 01:33:52,508 --> 01:33:57,178 he's tied into some organized crime or something. You know? 1707 01:33:57,179 --> 01:33:59,431 It-it's not all legit. Can't be. 1708 01:34:00,098 --> 01:34:02,100 He just, he doesn't know anything else. 1709 01:34:02,643 --> 01:34:06,729 - He's never personally taken anything from anybody 1710 01:34:06,730 --> 01:34:11,984 that he knows personally or family members. 1711 01:34:11,985 --> 01:34:15,697 It's always been more like corporate America. 1712 01:34:16,657 --> 01:34:20,451 And, yes, I'm gonna say banks because his attitude, 1713 01:34:20,452 --> 01:34:22,119 and quite honestly, my attitude, 1714 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,706 has always been the banks are legal criminals 1715 01:34:25,707 --> 01:34:27,918 because they can do anything they wanna do, 1716 01:34:28,502 --> 01:34:30,920 and they take money from people all the time. 1717 01:34:32,881 --> 01:34:34,173 I mean, I don't have any proof 1718 01:34:34,174 --> 01:34:36,759 that he, that he is doing anything criminal, 1719 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,344 but I'd be very surprised 1720 01:34:38,345 --> 01:34:40,847 if he wasn't, if he wasn't. 1721 01:34:40,848 --> 01:34:43,015 I think that challenge, 1722 01:34:43,016 --> 01:34:48,272 that, that, uh, need to conquer, 1723 01:34:48,939 --> 01:34:51,357 uh, is probably still there. 1724 01:34:51,358 --> 01:34:56,863 - Well, my drive to fight is similar to Dan stealing. 1725 01:34:56,864 --> 01:34:58,073 I'm a survivor. 1726 01:34:58,782 --> 01:35:02,034 And I'm very proud to say that's my boy. 1727 01:35:08,208 --> 01:35:11,210 In my experience, it's my belief 1728 01:35:11,211 --> 01:35:14,131 that reform has no place in Gerald Blanchard's life. 1729 01:35:14,923 --> 01:35:17,175 I don't think he's reformed. 1730 01:35:17,176 --> 01:35:19,510 Um, I don't think he ever will reform. 1731 01:35:19,511 --> 01:35:25,474 I think he is the kind of man who revels in this type of behavior. 1732 01:35:25,475 --> 01:35:27,143 And I don't think, frankly, 1733 01:35:27,144 --> 01:35:29,020 he could live without this kind of behavior. 1734 01:35:32,608 --> 01:35:34,901 And when all the cards came falling down, 1735 01:35:34,902 --> 01:35:36,445 it was a sense of relief, 1736 01:35:37,029 --> 01:35:39,614 because I knew I would go do my jail time, 1737 01:35:39,615 --> 01:35:43,534 and then I would be free someday to start over. 1738 01:35:46,872 --> 01:35:49,207 - ♪ Shining star for you to see ♪ 1739 01:35:49,208 --> 01:35:51,168 ♪ What your life can truly be ♪ 1740 01:35:51,710 --> 01:35:57,341 ♪ Dream Your Little Dream by The Braun Brothers featuring Lady Blackbird playing ♪ 1741 01:36:16,902 --> 01:36:22,866 - ♪ Look into your future ♪ 1742 01:36:26,537 --> 01:36:32,417 ♪ You will see your past ♪ 1743 01:36:36,046 --> 01:36:39,090 ♪ Look into ♪ 1744 01:36:39,091 --> 01:36:43,387 ♪ The crystal ball ♪ 1745 01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:50,936 ♪ The light is dimming fast ♪ 1746 01:36:54,022 --> 01:36:57,818 ♪ Dream your little dream ♪ 1747 01:36:58,819 --> 01:37:03,656 ♪ Dream of starting over ♪ 1748 01:37:03,657 --> 01:37:07,870 ♪ Dream your little dream ♪ 1749 01:37:08,370 --> 01:37:13,374 ♪ Dream, dream ♪ 1750 01:37:13,375 --> 01:37:16,461 ♪ Dream ♪ 1751 01:37:28,974 --> 01:37:31,851 ♪ Look into ♪ 1752 01:37:31,852 --> 01:37:34,813 ♪ My hazel eyes ♪ 1753 01:37:38,442 --> 01:37:43,405 ♪ Dream with me if you dare ♪ 1754 01:37:48,243 --> 01:37:51,078 ♪ Hear the truth ♪ 1755 01:37:51,079 --> 01:37:54,541 ♪ It never lies ♪ 1756 01:37:57,544 --> 01:38:01,924 ♪ Follow me, I'll take you there ♪ 1757 01:38:08,388 --> 01:38:12,601 ♪ Dream your little dream ♪ 1758 01:38:13,227 --> 01:38:18,022 ♪ Dream of starting over ♪ 1759 01:38:18,023 --> 01:38:22,069 ♪ Dream your little dream ♪ 1760 01:38:22,819 --> 01:38:27,865 ♪ Dream, dream ♪ 1761 01:38:27,866 --> 01:38:31,077 ♪ Dream ♪ 1762 01:38:31,078 --> 01:38:32,370 ♪ vocalizing ♪ 1763 01:38:32,371 --> 01:38:37,250 ♪ Dream, dream ♪ 1764 01:38:37,251 --> 01:38:41,380 ♪ Dream ♪ 1765 01:38:42,047 --> 01:38:47,009 ♪ Dream, dream ♪ 1766 01:38:47,010 --> 01:38:49,971 ♪ Dream ♪ 1767 01:38:49,972 --> 01:38:51,639 ♪ vocalizing ♪ 1768 01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:56,435 ♪ Dream, dream ♪ 1769 01:38:56,436 --> 01:38:59,939 ♪ Dream ♪ 1770 01:38:59,940 --> 01:39:01,232 ♪ vocalizing ♪ 1771 01:39:01,233 --> 01:39:05,612 ♪ Dream of starting over ♪ 1772 01:39:06,071 --> 01:39:10,783 ♪ Dream of starting over ♪ 1773 01:39:10,784 --> 01:39:16,122 ♪ Dream of starting over ♪ 1774 01:39:16,123 --> 01:39:20,878 ♪ Dream of starting over ♪ 1775 01:39:22,671 --> 01:39:26,967 - For sure my friends and family were trying to steer me on the correct path, 1776 01:39:27,801 --> 01:39:29,970 but... and I say, "But," 1777 01:39:30,596 --> 01:39:32,264 that doesn't pay the bills. 136002

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