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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,221 --> 00:00:03,971 (soothing music) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,850 It's addictive. 5 00:02:38,850 --> 00:02:39,923 Just the smell. 6 00:02:40,940 --> 00:02:45,303 Then you get to the taste and that's it, you're hooked. 7 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,870 I think there's this kind of magical thing 8 00:02:53,870 --> 00:02:55,870 about drinking coffee with other people. 9 00:03:00,270 --> 00:03:02,150 People get together, they drink their coffee 10 00:03:02,150 --> 00:03:02,983 and they talk. 11 00:03:03,910 --> 00:03:06,580 And it's not through a cell phone or an iPad. 12 00:03:06,580 --> 00:03:08,273 It's face-to-face. 13 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,700 Coffee is one of these great drinks 14 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:18,250 to promote communication. 15 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:23,633 It's one of those great excuses to invite somebody to talk. 16 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,490 A lot of people drink it 17 00:03:28,490 --> 00:03:31,473 because of the pick me up benefits that it provides. 18 00:03:31,473 --> 00:03:33,913 There's no doubt about that. 19 00:03:35,770 --> 00:03:38,270 There's something innate about drinking coffee. 20 00:03:38,270 --> 00:03:40,980 It just has an earthy character to it. 21 00:03:40,980 --> 00:03:42,470 And it's the first thing they put in your mouth 22 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:43,313 in the morning. 23 00:03:44,610 --> 00:03:47,390 There's a certain ritual that has made it such a popular 24 00:03:47,390 --> 00:03:48,517 beverage for those reasons. 25 00:03:48,517 --> 00:03:50,603 And people look for it everywhere. 26 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:55,420 The real challenge is for us to make that experience 27 00:03:55,420 --> 00:04:00,230 better for people as farmers, as roasters, as retailers, 28 00:04:00,230 --> 00:04:01,063 we can do that. 29 00:04:01,063 --> 00:04:02,850 And at the same time hopefully, 30 00:04:02,850 --> 00:04:04,790 make it better for the planet. 31 00:04:04,790 --> 00:04:06,840 So we have a lot of work to do. 32 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,180 And now is the perfect time 33 00:04:08,180 --> 00:04:10,083 to really work toward that together. 34 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:32,860 Coffee is a bush. 35 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:36,350 In fact, it's an understory crop from East Africa. 36 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:38,000 That's where it occurs naturally. 37 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:44,900 They took this shade loving shrub 38 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:48,653 and stuck it in a tropical forest and it prospered. 39 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,280 So coffee grows at high altitude 40 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,533 in a belt around the equator in the tropics. 41 00:05:04,182 --> 00:05:05,067 The whole world knows 42 00:05:05,067 --> 00:05:08,650 the birth place of coffee is Ethiopia. 43 00:05:08,650 --> 00:05:11,900 (African upbeat music) 44 00:05:27,176 --> 00:05:29,509 Coffee is big in Ethiopia. 45 00:05:30,890 --> 00:05:33,810 If you drive around or walk around 46 00:05:33,810 --> 00:05:35,820 even in any downtown area, 47 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:39,690 any city, you see Ethiopian coffee ceremony happening 48 00:05:39,690 --> 00:05:41,966 and people actually love coffee. 49 00:05:41,966 --> 00:05:45,216 (African upbeat music) 50 00:05:59,750 --> 00:06:03,340 Coffee you're not going to plant it in the city. 51 00:06:03,340 --> 00:06:07,100 Coffee is a really in the remote area, 52 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,300 very dark from the city. 53 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:11,570 You drive, and drive and drive. 54 00:06:11,570 --> 00:06:14,280 By the end of the day, when you get there, 55 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:19,280 it might've be rain, muddy, slippery, so that's not is. 56 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:22,200 You should like that job. 57 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,150 If you don't like, if it is muddy, 58 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:26,480 oh I don't like this muddy, I'm gonna go back home. 59 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,323 No, you go fight against the muddy. 60 00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:34,900 So you need to have four wheel drive car. 61 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:37,570 Sometimes the car get break down you see. 62 00:06:37,570 --> 00:06:38,746 And then when the get a breakdown 63 00:06:38,746 --> 00:06:41,310 and then people started pushing the car and then together, 64 00:06:41,310 --> 00:06:44,540 altogether you go on the top of the mountain 65 00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:46,210 where the coffee is. 66 00:06:46,210 --> 00:06:47,694 So it's not easy. 67 00:06:47,694 --> 00:06:50,944 (African upbeat music) 68 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:19,773 My name is Akmel Nuri. 69 00:07:20,781 --> 00:07:22,677 I'm a coffee farmer in (indistinct). 70 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:26,293 My farm is 200 hectares altogether. 71 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:32,710 The altitude is from 1,600-2,135 in between. 72 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:40,330 When our country become to the communist, 73 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:43,810 the (indistinct) nationalized my father's coffee, 74 00:07:43,810 --> 00:07:45,960 and then I left the country. 75 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,960 So after I graduate and he goes Latvia, I went to America. 76 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,830 I was working a lot of works there and then saving money 77 00:07:55,830 --> 00:07:57,880 because I have a dream. 78 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,400 I have a goal. 79 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,884 It was inside of me to have my own coffee farm. 80 00:08:02,884 --> 00:08:05,634 (birds chirping) 81 00:08:10,670 --> 00:08:12,033 I started from scratch. 82 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:16,200 It was not easy, but I make it. 83 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,220 I did it. 84 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:19,300 I'm very happy. 85 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:21,540 Now I have 200 hectares of coffee. 86 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:23,630 That was my dream. 87 00:08:23,630 --> 00:08:24,923 The dream comes true. 88 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,700 And then this time when I see my farm, 89 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:32,040 that gives me a really inside of satisfaction. 90 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,410 It is my therapy, especially when I see the forest, 91 00:08:36,410 --> 00:08:38,260 because I am really a nature person. 92 00:08:38,260 --> 00:08:39,123 I like nature. 93 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:41,870 There you go. 94 00:08:41,870 --> 00:08:44,693 We're in the middle of the jungle. 95 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,093 I feel so inside fully know when I come here. 96 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:51,763 Free therapy. 97 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,470 My coffee is not only just regular coffee. 98 00:08:59,470 --> 00:09:01,410 It is a forest coffee. 99 00:09:01,410 --> 00:09:04,270 It is really deep forest. 100 00:09:04,270 --> 00:09:08,370 You can say, this is a coffee from reforest. 101 00:09:08,370 --> 00:09:10,850 Coffee loves to live with the trees. 102 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:12,223 Coffee needs a shed, 103 00:09:14,110 --> 00:09:16,683 Nature makes coffee beautiful. 104 00:09:16,683 --> 00:09:19,433 (birds chirping) 105 00:09:29,780 --> 00:09:34,780 Shade grown coffee is coffee that has a tall trees over it 106 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,000 that provide shade and the shade is like a forest. 107 00:09:42,060 --> 00:09:43,870 It can also provide pretty good habitat 108 00:09:43,870 --> 00:09:46,550 for wildlife in general. 109 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:48,770 Now it can't replace natural forest. 110 00:09:48,770 --> 00:09:50,280 We should never say that. 111 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,060 But for agricultural land use 112 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:56,630 that is economically productive 113 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:59,730 and give something to farmers for doing what they do 114 00:09:59,730 --> 00:10:04,730 and also has this dimension of environmental benefits, 115 00:10:04,820 --> 00:10:08,030 that's a pretty good, a pretty good system. 116 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:11,450 There's not a lot of cultivated crops and plants 117 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:12,713 that can make that claim. 118 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,810 Coffee is a forest plant. 119 00:10:19,810 --> 00:10:22,933 So if you're a forest plant, you grow in shade. 120 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:29,110 You may not be able to plant as densely in shade, 121 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,490 but you plant far more closely to its natural habitat. 122 00:10:35,730 --> 00:10:39,080 And so that's what you're trying to replicate. 123 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,080 You're trying to get a moderated shade, not no sun, 124 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,610 but you're trying to get that dappled 125 00:10:47,610 --> 00:10:50,320 so that the sun comes through, but there is shade. 126 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,550 There is cool. 127 00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:53,210 There is moisture. 128 00:10:53,210 --> 00:10:54,530 Moisture is very important. 129 00:10:54,530 --> 00:10:56,363 The shades part of the moisture. 130 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,153 I'm Dorienne Rowan Campbell, and my farm is Rowan's Royale. 131 00:11:03,410 --> 00:11:07,750 The blue mountains are exquisite. 132 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:10,810 It's a real privilege to have a farm there. 133 00:11:10,810 --> 00:11:11,960 They're beautiful. 134 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,893 And the flavor of our blue mountain coffee is exceptional. 135 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,500 It's eight acres. 136 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:23,260 A great deal of the farm is just in forest 137 00:11:23,260 --> 00:11:26,040 because it's just too steep to cultivate anything on. 138 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,180 It would not be ecologically sound to plant on it. 139 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:34,230 So we have about three acres where we can plant coffee 140 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:39,230 and I've probably got an acre and a half 141 00:11:39,290 --> 00:11:41,370 where the coffee's planted. 142 00:11:41,370 --> 00:11:46,370 It's not planted as closely as might be recommended, 143 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:50,350 but it is an organic farm, it has to be sustainable. 144 00:11:50,350 --> 00:11:54,390 So there's a lot of other life that has to go on, 145 00:11:54,390 --> 00:11:57,180 on farm apart from the coffee. 146 00:11:57,180 --> 00:11:58,013 Yes, a lot of birds, a lot of birds. 147 00:11:58,013 --> 00:12:00,784 Yeah, yeah, lot of birds. 148 00:12:00,784 --> 00:12:04,387 It can be (indistinct) a lot of birds. 149 00:12:04,387 --> 00:12:09,387 (indistinct) and you name it. 150 00:12:11,401 --> 00:12:13,901 (indistinct). 151 00:12:18,978 --> 00:12:21,400 We have more than which, we have white belly. 152 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,450 We have (indistinct). 153 00:12:26,763 --> 00:12:31,763 What it makes a nice song the bird watch (indistinct) 154 00:12:32,070 --> 00:12:33,118 on the road. 155 00:12:33,118 --> 00:12:36,110 (indistinct). 156 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:39,673 My dad bought this farm when I was about 12. 157 00:12:40,580 --> 00:12:43,530 And so a lot of the big trees there have been friends 158 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:45,880 for many, many years. 159 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,640 He always did have a fair amount of trees, 160 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,220 but not the amount of shade that I really want to have. 161 00:12:52,220 --> 00:12:56,920 My dad stopped cultivating in about '77 162 00:12:58,030 --> 00:13:02,870 and I didn't start on the farm until '92. 163 00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:05,660 So it meant that I had a fresh slate. 164 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:09,420 I could start doing what I needed to do, 165 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:10,930 and I could learn doing it 166 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:14,950 without making too many disastrous mistakes. 167 00:13:14,950 --> 00:13:18,070 And so I began to teach myself about organic. 168 00:13:18,070 --> 00:13:19,800 And it was teacher self 169 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,930 'cause at that time, if you tried to go online, 170 00:13:22,930 --> 00:13:24,703 it was very, very expensive. 171 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:30,930 Then I began to realize that part of going organic 172 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,940 was making certain that you had the right mix 173 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:39,940 of shade trees, flowering trees, shrubs, grasses. 174 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:46,246 And so I began my quest for shade coffee. 175 00:13:46,246 --> 00:13:48,996 (soothing music) 176 00:13:54,374 --> 00:13:55,650 You can grow coffee in two ways, 177 00:13:55,650 --> 00:13:56,960 you can grow at a sun coffee, 178 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,430 or you can grow it a shade coffee. 179 00:13:59,430 --> 00:14:01,550 Sun coffee is highly productive. 180 00:14:01,550 --> 00:14:03,470 You actually get more beans per hectare 181 00:14:03,470 --> 00:14:05,160 than you do with shade coffee 182 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,490 but there's a price to pay for that. 183 00:14:07,490 --> 00:14:10,200 On the one hand, you can have higher yields, 184 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,410 a lot of coffee coming out of the land, 185 00:14:12,410 --> 00:14:13,920 but you then have some other issues 186 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,290 that you have to deal with. 187 00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:18,650 Soil erosion, perhaps water contamination, 188 00:14:18,650 --> 00:14:22,830 workers being exposed to agrochemicals pesticides. 189 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:25,223 So there's some trade-offs there. 190 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:31,410 If all farms were to go conventional sun grown, 191 00:14:31,410 --> 00:14:34,090 well we'd have a lot of coffee in the world 192 00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:39,090 and we'd probably also have some very long-term consequences 193 00:14:39,410 --> 00:14:42,900 to deal with because of the way the land is treated. 194 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:46,803 Well, because that's really not how coffee wants to grow. 195 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:52,420 They beautifully planted out very close together 196 00:14:52,420 --> 00:14:57,420 and it's very hard to find a tree that's anywhere near it. 197 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,053 Yes, and you'll get a lot of bearing, 198 00:15:01,772 --> 00:15:04,283 but it's not sustainable. 199 00:15:05,650 --> 00:15:10,140 You're going to have to keep putting more and more inputs, 200 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:12,900 usually other chemical kind into it 201 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:14,940 to get it to keep producing 202 00:15:14,940 --> 00:15:18,390 because there's nothing regenerative about it. 203 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:21,420 I think shade coffee is far more regenerative. 204 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,090 It allows the plant to rest more 205 00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:27,356 because the shade is doing part of the work. 206 00:15:27,356 --> 00:15:30,106 (birds chirping) 207 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:40,450 I'm Jefferson Shriver. 208 00:15:40,450 --> 00:15:43,083 I'm the owner of Gaia Estate here in Nicaragua. 209 00:15:44,140 --> 00:15:47,870 This farm has about 115 years of coffee history. 210 00:15:47,870 --> 00:15:50,400 And so if you looked around the farm, 211 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,170 it's mostly a rustic shade. 212 00:15:52,170 --> 00:15:54,460 This is the way coffee was originally grown. 213 00:15:54,460 --> 00:15:57,890 So basically they just took out the understory of a forest, 214 00:15:57,890 --> 00:15:59,220 clear the understory, 215 00:15:59,220 --> 00:16:02,163 kept the forest and started growing coffee here. 216 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:05,270 One of the first things we're really proud 217 00:16:05,270 --> 00:16:07,850 about with this farm is the fact that it has trees 218 00:16:07,850 --> 00:16:10,440 that are anywhere from 50 years 219 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,113 to some say 200, 250 years old. 220 00:16:14,430 --> 00:16:15,690 When you walk the farm, 221 00:16:15,690 --> 00:16:17,820 you just get a sense that there are all kinds 222 00:16:17,820 --> 00:16:21,800 of living organisms and animals and trees and crops 223 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,700 that are feeding off one or the other. 224 00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:29,290 So there's a lot of misconceptions 225 00:16:29,290 --> 00:16:31,700 about what shade grown coffee is and what it isn't. 226 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,730 Shade grown coffee isn't just coffee 227 00:16:33,730 --> 00:16:37,540 that's grown perhaps underneath a banana plant. 228 00:16:37,540 --> 00:16:40,570 It really needs to look a lot like a forest looks like. 229 00:16:40,570 --> 00:16:44,290 We have fruit trees, first is that first story. 230 00:16:44,290 --> 00:16:46,800 We have fast growing forest trees 231 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,540 that are a part of that second story there. 232 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:51,330 Those might also be taller fruit trees. 233 00:16:51,330 --> 00:16:55,020 And then we have these larger third story 234 00:16:55,020 --> 00:16:58,300 that last story of the shade system, 235 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:00,370 those are usually our oldest 236 00:17:00,370 --> 00:17:03,450 and that combination of shade is just great 237 00:17:03,450 --> 00:17:04,300 for the whole system. 238 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:05,660 Now you have to manage that shape 239 00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:07,740 'cause sun does have to come through the branches 240 00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:11,263 and photosynthesis has to interact with the plant. 241 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:16,010 You can see the leaf structure there. 242 00:17:16,010 --> 00:17:19,810 Leaf structure is that then it allows a lot of sun 243 00:17:19,810 --> 00:17:20,970 to come in, 244 00:17:20,970 --> 00:17:24,290 and because they're so kind of thin in that sense, 245 00:17:24,290 --> 00:17:26,193 they easily mulch back into the soil. 246 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:32,210 I've always been interested in this relationship 247 00:17:32,210 --> 00:17:37,210 between forests and how we can sustain forests as humans, 248 00:17:37,323 --> 00:17:38,900 but at the same time, 249 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:42,010 how agriculture can mingle with that 250 00:17:42,010 --> 00:17:46,203 and humans can make a living from an agro forestry system. 251 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:50,870 Coffee really is a great crop for the mixing 252 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:54,128 of those two worlds because it's a shade tolerant crop. 253 00:17:54,128 --> 00:17:56,878 (birds chirping) 254 00:18:06,331 --> 00:18:09,070 You choose at least what we do is choose 255 00:18:09,070 --> 00:18:11,140 the most beautiful, big and red 256 00:18:11,140 --> 00:18:13,130 and healthy cherry. 257 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:16,170 And that will eventually become a seed 258 00:18:16,170 --> 00:18:18,123 that we will plant in a nursery. 259 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,560 This turns into a tree. 260 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,980 There are certain different methods of how to do it, 261 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:29,323 but you dry it, you wash it. 262 00:18:30,180 --> 00:18:33,300 Then you put it in a bag and it starts growing, 263 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:37,500 growing, growing for about 10 months, 11 months. 264 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:42,500 And then you transport each bag one tree to the farm, 265 00:18:44,110 --> 00:18:47,300 and then manually you put it. 266 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:51,180 You open a hole in the ground, you put some fertilizer, 267 00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:54,583 a little conditioner to the ground, and then you plant it. 268 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:58,690 Then it's a year long process. 269 00:18:58,690 --> 00:19:00,410 It's a non-stop process. 270 00:19:00,410 --> 00:19:04,170 You have to clear the small plant from weeds. 271 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:05,480 You have to fertilize it. 272 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,330 You have to take care of the shade. 273 00:19:07,330 --> 00:19:11,400 You have to also take care of it when the plant gets sick, 274 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,740 you need to give him medicine, vitamins, 275 00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:15,653 so he grows healthy and strong. 276 00:19:20,419 --> 00:19:23,613 No active spots. 277 00:19:23,613 --> 00:19:24,696 No, its okay. 278 00:19:32,140 --> 00:19:36,203 My name is Jan Carlo Handtke and I'm a coffee farmer. 279 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:40,120 I manage five different (indistinct) 280 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,303 and I've dedicated my life to farming coffee. 281 00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:47,340 I've been doing it for about 10 years. 282 00:19:47,340 --> 00:19:49,563 I spent 100% of my time doing it. 283 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:52,890 That's what I do for a living and I love it. 284 00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:57,570 My family has been growing coffee for more than 100 years. 285 00:19:57,570 --> 00:20:01,320 So I was always around coffee since I was a little kid. 286 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,020 So I like to think that I chose coffee, 287 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:06,013 but I'm not sure if coffee chose me. 288 00:20:08,260 --> 00:20:09,880 After I finished college, 289 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,570 I took the decision to do this for a living 290 00:20:12,570 --> 00:20:15,280 and get really involved in the producing and processing 291 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,023 and selling coffee. 292 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:19,753 Nice. 293 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,062 I'm here every day and every day I'm amazed 294 00:20:23,062 --> 00:20:27,000 of how it's growing healthy and green. 295 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,470 And it's looking very good. 296 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:32,480 You can tell that he will, 297 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,180 he will have a lot of coffee actually next year. 298 00:20:36,180 --> 00:20:39,993 All these you see will be the future flowers. 299 00:20:40,910 --> 00:20:45,737 And after the flowering, they will become coffee cherries. 300 00:20:47,790 --> 00:20:51,260 It's what we have been doing for decades. 301 00:20:51,260 --> 00:20:55,900 And I really wish my kids will love coffee as much as I do. 302 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:58,440 So it's a lifestyle for me. 303 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,740 It's my way of living. 304 00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:02,230 What I do for fun. 305 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:04,393 It's basically everything. 306 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:09,253 I could not imagine being at another place. 307 00:21:13,820 --> 00:21:17,160 I love being around green, I love being in the mountains, 308 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,180 hearing birds, hearing animals, 309 00:21:19,180 --> 00:21:21,140 hearing the wind in the trees, 310 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:23,990 instead of hearing like cars or machines 311 00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:25,940 or people around me. 312 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:30,070 I think it's a very healthy way of living, 313 00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:34,880 being productive and enjoying yourself and enjoying nature 314 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,113 and make a living out of it's a blessing. 315 00:21:47,530 --> 00:21:51,460 So coffee is a shrub that takes three years 316 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:53,070 to get its first crop. 317 00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:55,360 So you have to plant a seedling 318 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,920 that can come from your own seed, no problem. 319 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,920 And it grows up to usually about two meters. 320 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,930 Then you wanna be pruning it 321 00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:07,150 so you don't want it to get too high. 322 00:22:07,150 --> 00:22:10,380 And after three years you get your first harvest. 323 00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:13,520 And if you are fertilizing it well, you're pruning it well 324 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,450 you're getting good weeding around it. 325 00:22:15,450 --> 00:22:17,640 The coffee can be quite productive. 326 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,580 You have to have a reasonable amount of rainfall 327 00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:22,220 and some good humidity in the soil. 328 00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:24,890 It's always helpful to have cool nighttime temperatures 329 00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:25,723 as well. 330 00:22:25,723 --> 00:22:28,640 So most coffee is grown above, say 600 meters, 331 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,700 five to 600 meters. 332 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:34,610 And ideally I'd say 1,000 to 1,500 meters. 333 00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:37,423 And that is how coffee is grown for the most part, yeah. 334 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,330 That same coffee shrub can last anywhere 335 00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:50,330 from 15 up to 30 years, if you're doing regular pruning. 336 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,967 What takes place during the growing season 337 00:22:55,967 --> 00:23:00,967 is a lot of cleaning, filling, looking after the trees, 338 00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:05,473 definitely it's a year round effort. 339 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:09,470 The cherry is gonna emerged from the tree, 340 00:23:09,470 --> 00:23:11,600 they come out in the color green 341 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,450 and then they start to turn ripe 342 00:23:13,450 --> 00:23:16,193 in September, October, November. 343 00:23:18,580 --> 00:23:21,500 We measure the sugar content, the bricks of sugar. 344 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,850 And it's kind of like a wine grower does. 345 00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:27,460 We pick the cherries when they're deep red, 346 00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:29,320 it's a quality issue, okay. 347 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,650 So you can correlate how good the coffee's gonna be 348 00:23:31,650 --> 00:23:33,343 by how good your pick is. 349 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:42,240 I'm one of the two owners of Finca Dos Jefes 350 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,570 in Boquete, Chiriqui Republic of Panama. 351 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:49,630 We're a small farm, 2.7 hectares. 352 00:23:49,630 --> 00:23:54,410 I came to Panama in 2002 to visit Panamanian friends. 353 00:23:54,410 --> 00:23:56,833 I'm from San Francisco in the United States. 354 00:23:59,470 --> 00:24:01,650 We fell in love with the graciousness 355 00:24:01,650 --> 00:24:03,847 of the Panamanian people. 356 00:24:03,847 --> 00:24:07,350 And we came back a few months after our first visit 357 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:09,490 and we're looking for a piece of land 358 00:24:09,490 --> 00:24:12,360 to build a small home on, 359 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:13,910 At the end of two days of looking 360 00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:15,760 and they asked us if we'd like to see 361 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,470 an abandoned coffee farm, I said, sure, why not? 362 00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:21,360 And they drove us up the hill. 363 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,560 We saw the property on a Thursday night, 364 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,440 purchased it the next morning 365 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,120 and then had to figure out how to become coffee farmers. 366 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,910 What I will tell you is that when the coffee bug bit me, 367 00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:33,623 it took over my entire life. 368 00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:48,083 Harvest generally take about four months on the farm. 369 00:24:49,230 --> 00:24:51,290 Everything doesn't turn red at the same time. 370 00:24:51,290 --> 00:24:53,210 And that's why it's so labor intensive, 371 00:24:53,210 --> 00:24:55,170 you'll work in the area of the farm, 372 00:24:55,170 --> 00:24:57,680 take everything deep, red in color off of it 373 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,010 and move picking someplace else and then we turn. 374 00:25:01,010 --> 00:25:03,960 Each tree picked between eight and 10 times 375 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,890 during the four month period. 376 00:25:05,890 --> 00:25:07,380 And everything's picked individually 377 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:09,310 in the pinching-twisting motion 378 00:25:09,310 --> 00:25:10,830 so that you can leave the stem on 379 00:25:10,830 --> 00:25:12,600 for the following years growth. 380 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,040 About 20 weeks after the picking 381 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,920 a small white flower comes out. 382 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,050 It's a very magical time to be on a coffee farm. 383 00:25:20,050 --> 00:25:22,490 You'd go to bed at night and everything is green. 384 00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:24,060 The first flowering of the year 385 00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:26,410 and you wake up, it looks like it's snowed. 386 00:25:26,410 --> 00:25:29,880 Maybe 20,000 little white flowers on the farm. 387 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,580 The aromas are intoxicating, lavender, licorice, 388 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:36,680 jasmine, rolled into one and it permeates the area. 389 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,513 It's really, really spectacular. 390 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,760 The flowers don't stay on very long though, 391 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,570 they fall off in three or four days. 392 00:25:48,570 --> 00:25:52,410 They leave a small bud and then the bud takes nine months 393 00:25:52,410 --> 00:25:55,480 to turn into a full-size green cherry. 394 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,463 And then we start that cycle again. 395 00:26:07,241 --> 00:26:09,297 What we do here is we hand pick them, 396 00:26:09,297 --> 00:26:13,530 put them in a basket is to, which is tied to your waist. 397 00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:16,240 So the pickers have their two hands free 398 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,610 and they're able to hold themselves in the rain, 399 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:20,520 which is one even, or it's wet. 400 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,383 So it's slippery. 401 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:28,500 One of the things that we make sure that we do 402 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,950 is to pick those cherries 403 00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:32,750 when they're at their ripest moment. 404 00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:36,300 They can just be pulled off 405 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:39,230 the branch of the plant effortlessly. 406 00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:41,720 And pickers know exactly how to do that. 407 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,760 And one of the ways that we incentivize that 408 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,010 is to pay workers, a better price for the coffee 409 00:26:47,010 --> 00:26:49,210 that they're picking of the highest quality. 410 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,820 So we will do that 411 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,860 and pickers are really proud to be working with us 412 00:26:56,860 --> 00:26:59,710 because they get a better wage for what they're picking 413 00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:01,570 and they know they're picking the highest quality coffee. 414 00:27:01,570 --> 00:27:03,150 So they really take pride in that. 415 00:27:03,150 --> 00:27:06,510 Most of the pickers are women at this point in time. 416 00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:08,170 And we know them very well. 417 00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:09,400 We know their families. 418 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,990 We have a relationship with them and we really take care of 419 00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:14,253 that picking process. 420 00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:26,873 That's just to know how many beans on each 421 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,223 of these up here. 422 00:27:31,916 --> 00:27:34,383 It will be about a hundred beans in here. 423 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,210 Once the coffee is ripe, 424 00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:46,130 you pick only the red cherries 425 00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:50,993 and those red cherries are hold to a processing station. 426 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:56,030 You have a lot of options of how to process the coffee. 427 00:27:56,030 --> 00:28:00,470 You can do a fully washed coffee, semi washed coffee, 428 00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:02,740 natural honeys. 429 00:28:02,740 --> 00:28:04,800 You can drain them in the patios. 430 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,700 You can drain them in raised beds. 431 00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:08,620 You can drain them in a machine. 432 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:12,513 So it's what your consumer, your buyer wants. 433 00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:24,590 At the end of the day, you take your bag to the wet mill. 434 00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:28,540 And what we do is a separation process with water, 435 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:32,740 the heavier beans go to the bottom of the container 436 00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:36,603 and the floaters are classified because they're lighter. 437 00:28:37,570 --> 00:28:42,557 We deport the coffee, ferment the coffee, wash the coffee, 438 00:28:42,557 --> 00:28:44,790 and then after we wash it, 439 00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:48,380 we send it to the patio to dry the coffee. 440 00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:49,690 And after three or four days, 441 00:28:49,690 --> 00:28:53,340 the coffee is then ready to sit in parchment 442 00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:54,313 in the warehouse. 443 00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:01,560 You need to have a lot of patients 444 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,330 and you have to have a high amount of knowledge 445 00:29:03,330 --> 00:29:07,550 because the process can go wrong at any given time. 446 00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:10,800 And so if you are harvesting the beans, 447 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,650 when they're not quite red enough, 448 00:29:13,650 --> 00:29:15,940 if you're fermenting the beans 449 00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:19,800 and you don't ferment long enough, or you ferment too long, 450 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,530 if you are taking off or removing the mucilage 451 00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:25,250 and you don't really get all that, mucilage off. 452 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:28,230 If you're drying and you don't get the right humidity, 453 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:31,330 the quality of the cup can be completely changed. 454 00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:32,780 When people drink their cup of coffee, 455 00:29:32,780 --> 00:29:36,250 they don't realize all of it's going on beforehand. 456 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:39,983 And it's an incredible process. 457 00:29:42,483 --> 00:29:45,066 (upbeat music) 458 00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:02,860 The alternative to the wash method 459 00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:04,960 is the natural method, okay? 460 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,110 It's, what's done in a lot of the African countries. 461 00:30:08,110 --> 00:30:09,270 It's what's being done out here. 462 00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:11,790 It's taking the cherries, keeping them intact 463 00:30:11,790 --> 00:30:14,293 and putting them onto a raised drying bed. 464 00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:17,243 On this farm, 465 00:30:17,243 --> 00:30:20,690 the very first thing that we do when we pick the cherries, 466 00:30:20,690 --> 00:30:24,775 is we float them in a wheel barrow full of water, okay. 467 00:30:24,775 --> 00:30:29,775 98, 99% will drop directly to the bottom in a normal year. 468 00:30:30,873 --> 00:30:33,370 So we have one to 2% floating. 469 00:30:33,370 --> 00:30:36,330 Those that float we know will never be good coffee. 470 00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:38,020 They don't have the right nutrient material. 471 00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:40,380 We skim them and compost them. 472 00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:43,250 The other 98% go onto the drying beds. 473 00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:47,960 And they sit in the sun on this farm for 20 to 25 days 474 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,660 of good sunshine. 475 00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:52,683 Good sunshine is the operative word in that statement, okay? 476 00:30:54,130 --> 00:30:56,670 Every evening or whenever it threatens to rain, 477 00:30:56,670 --> 00:30:57,630 they need to be covered. 478 00:30:57,630 --> 00:30:59,000 It's labor-intensive. 479 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,830 Two guys maybe three hours every evening, 480 00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:04,703 during our four month drying period. 481 00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:07,053 At that point, 482 00:31:07,053 --> 00:31:11,650 we allow the coffee to rest for a minimum of 90 days. 483 00:31:11,650 --> 00:31:13,300 During that resting period, 484 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,770 the properties of the coffee settle down 485 00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:18,793 and the coffee gets becomes better, okay. 486 00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:33,370 First the station take off the screen, 487 00:31:33,370 --> 00:31:36,630 and then the dirt, the dark one, there's small size. 488 00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:39,490 And then the broken one, we will take it away. 489 00:31:39,490 --> 00:31:42,900 And then also the color soft, color soft is taking off 490 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:47,770 the green one and much coffee and then some unusual color. 491 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,523 So it will take it off. 492 00:31:51,940 --> 00:31:56,000 Finally, if something passed from machine, 493 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,320 the last destination is the human being. 494 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,070 The ladies are picking something, 495 00:32:00,070 --> 00:32:03,073 which machine did not get it. 496 00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:27,183 Coffee is very is sweet when you drink it. 497 00:32:28,396 --> 00:32:31,510 And it's not easy to prepare from A to Z, 498 00:32:31,510 --> 00:32:35,593 when you come from down to here, long process. 499 00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:40,723 Okay, now we are talking about coffee, farm, 500 00:32:41,915 --> 00:32:44,960 (indistinct) agriculture, technique, everything you see. 501 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,847 This is all about coffee. 502 00:32:45,847 --> 00:32:50,473 You see here, is all coffee ready to export. 503 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,860 Something that's always important 504 00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:11,220 when you're looking to buy a new coffee is the sweetness 505 00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:12,300 and the clean cup. 506 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,540 That is what shows us if the coffee farmer 507 00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:19,150 or collaborative have been doing a good job in what they do. 508 00:33:19,150 --> 00:33:21,550 You can't really have a sweet and clean cup 509 00:33:21,550 --> 00:33:23,140 unless you have ripe cherries 510 00:33:23,140 --> 00:33:26,650 and everything throughout the whole way from them to us 511 00:33:26,650 --> 00:33:28,163 has been good. 512 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,020 My name is Casper Engel Rasmussen. 513 00:33:35,020 --> 00:33:39,040 I am a roaster in charge of the quality of roast 514 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,587 that coffee collected. 515 00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:45,200 Where I'm in charge of buying is in Ethiopia 516 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,660 and here we work with two different companies. 517 00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:48,620 One is Akmel Nuri, 518 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:50,970 and then we worked with a company called Metad. 519 00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:04,200 The way we taste the coffees is that we set up a cupping. 520 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,220 It's kind of like a standard way of tasting coffee 521 00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:08,370 in the coffee industry. 522 00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:14,230 With Metad, we can go they have like a professional setup 523 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:18,310 and it's just a amazing place to go and taste coffees. 524 00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:20,880 I mean, there are so good at roasting it. 525 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,850 Everything is set up exactly how you want it. 526 00:34:22,850 --> 00:34:26,173 So it's a very precise way to taste the coffees. 527 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:32,750 So when they cup, they use our laboratory, 528 00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:34,530 they evaluate the raw coffee. 529 00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:37,233 What that looks like, smells like and all that. 530 00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:41,350 And, but actually cup, we always code them 531 00:34:41,350 --> 00:34:43,300 so they don't know which is which. 532 00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:47,990 So we get an honest response feedback of their cupping. 533 00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:49,483 So that's how they select. 534 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,150 The more we cup with them, the more we know 535 00:34:54,150 --> 00:34:56,833 what kind of coffee profile they're looking for. 536 00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:01,980 A cupping is set up quite simple. 537 00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:05,070 It's like, you'll have a certain amount of coffee, 538 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:07,037 boiling water, just on the boiling. 539 00:35:07,037 --> 00:35:09,660 Let it sit for four minutes, then you stir. 540 00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:10,830 Make sure it's like stirred everything, 541 00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:12,410 so everything that's extracted, it's blended. 542 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:14,770 And then you just let it sit, 543 00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:17,210 skim the creamer that's on top. 544 00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:19,750 And then you just slip it with a spoon. 545 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:21,220 And it's a horrible sound. 546 00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:24,053 (slurping loudly) 547 00:35:31,187 --> 00:35:34,790 So you have both flavor and aroma at once. 548 00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:36,440 Flavor is what you have on the tongue. 549 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,440 So that is the sweetness and acidity. 550 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,470 Whereas the aromas is the stuff 551 00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:41,690 that you get through the nose 552 00:35:41,690 --> 00:35:43,840 and that's where it can catch some florals. 553 00:35:45,490 --> 00:35:48,300 And so it has almost green strawberry for me, 554 00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:50,390 like not fully developed 555 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:53,850 and but also like black currant and just, 556 00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:55,173 yeah, super intense. 557 00:35:56,269 --> 00:35:59,102 (Casper slurping) 558 00:36:04,090 --> 00:36:06,410 It's very delicate, and citrus, bergamot 559 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,280 and very clean and lacks maybe a bit of sweetness. 560 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,290 Yeah, I have peach again. 561 00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:23,663 And some honey and melon. 562 00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:29,210 I scored here (indistinct). 563 00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:33,060 It's just very, very complex coffee. 564 00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:36,297 There a lot of layers keep tasting it 565 00:36:36,297 --> 00:36:38,397 and tasting something different each time. 566 00:36:42,020 --> 00:36:43,940 Yeah, we were going back and forth. 567 00:36:43,940 --> 00:36:45,050 This one has more acidity, 568 00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:47,950 but this one is just so sweet and just clean 569 00:36:47,950 --> 00:36:48,897 and just (indistinct). 570 00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:54,770 This is Natural Hambela Buku. 571 00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:56,823 Okay. 572 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,767 Last, Washed Hambela, Benti Nenqa. 573 00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:10,355 This one, the first one? 574 00:37:10,355 --> 00:37:13,022 (indistinct). 575 00:37:14,184 --> 00:37:16,340 2014 was the first year 576 00:37:16,340 --> 00:37:18,053 we bought Akmel's coffee. 577 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,110 Yeah Akmel's was just such a, a likable fellow. 578 00:37:22,110 --> 00:37:24,840 It's just like the way he talks about his farm 579 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,270 and also the nature and how wild it is there 580 00:37:28,270 --> 00:37:31,713 for him is about growing it as natural as possible. 581 00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:34,340 It's like any, 582 00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:36,853 I mean I've never seen any farm like that before. 583 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,360 I've been down south and met some guys 584 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,240 that they're so professional in it, 585 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,730 everything is so well organized. 586 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,050 And I was like, wow, this is, this is cool. 587 00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:59,250 Akmel could maybe learn something from this. 588 00:38:03,170 --> 00:38:05,430 We agreed to do a little road trip. 589 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:07,600 We drove down to (indistinct) and (indistinct) 590 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,650 and visited some corporate (indistinct) and farms there 591 00:38:10,650 --> 00:38:12,420 for him to see how they do it. 592 00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:14,770 It's not to tell him this is how you should do it, 593 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:17,110 but just talk to them, get some inspiration, 594 00:38:17,110 --> 00:38:19,113 meet others that work in the same field. 595 00:38:24,347 --> 00:38:26,860 We got to talk to one of the agronomist there 596 00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:28,500 and they got along really well. 597 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:31,570 So it was very much them going together out into forest, 598 00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:33,320 talking about different techniques. 599 00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:41,330 It's amazing to see how we can work together 600 00:38:41,330 --> 00:38:42,643 on doing something better. 601 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:47,610 This will grow, grow fast 602 00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:51,680 and they use it for five or six years. 603 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,185 And then the other one will (indistinct). 604 00:38:54,185 --> 00:38:55,018 Yeah, yeah, okay. 605 00:38:55,018 --> 00:38:57,120 Then the other one will grow taller 606 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,153 and then it will give the shade. 607 00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:04,430 The coffee bean is just a seed inside a cherry. 608 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:05,890 So when you take it out it's green 609 00:39:05,890 --> 00:39:08,130 and it's almost hard as a stone. 610 00:39:08,130 --> 00:39:09,210 Sometime in history, 611 00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:11,540 people figured out that if you roast this, 612 00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:14,000 you can actually create some aromas. 613 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,050 We just turned something that tastes like grass 614 00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:18,000 into something that tastes like coffee. 615 00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:24,240 When we receive the samples of the coffees, 616 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:27,483 we have to make a decision what we wanna do with it. 617 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:30,830 We have this test roaster. So we test everything. 618 00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:33,177 So we kind of already know when we received the coffees, 619 00:39:33,177 --> 00:39:35,050 what do we wanna achieve with this coffee? 620 00:39:35,050 --> 00:39:36,600 Is it to be used for espresso? 621 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,053 Is it to be used for filter? 622 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:43,370 And then it's just, you know, all based on experience. 623 00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:45,390 So what do you want to create a coffee? 624 00:39:45,390 --> 00:39:47,920 Do you want us to be like super wild and aromatic? 625 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,060 Does it have that by nature? 626 00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:50,530 Then that's what we wanna highlight. 627 00:39:50,530 --> 00:39:53,170 If it's just a very balanced, smooth, sweet coffee, 628 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:54,003 then we wanna highlight that. 629 00:39:54,003 --> 00:39:57,023 And then we roast to another degree. 630 00:40:02,490 --> 00:40:04,320 You have to know what you're roasting, 631 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,550 every variety. 632 00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:09,563 Every coffee has its own roasting profile. 633 00:40:10,780 --> 00:40:15,780 It's not the same to roast (indistinct) grown in 700 meters, 634 00:40:16,690 --> 00:40:21,690 then Borbone at 1,700 meters. 635 00:40:21,790 --> 00:40:24,150 It's just a totally different thing. 636 00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:28,610 So a roaster can either make the coffee better 637 00:40:28,610 --> 00:40:30,923 or it can make the coffee worse. 638 00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:35,813 And every variety behaves difference inside the barrel. 639 00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:40,579 You have to know exactly how much time, the temperature, 640 00:40:40,579 --> 00:40:43,550 how much time after the first crack and all that. 641 00:40:43,550 --> 00:40:46,233 So it's another world. 642 00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:58,430 You have to adjust the profile 643 00:40:58,430 --> 00:41:00,570 as the green coffee comes in, 644 00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:04,590 because every bag of coffee is different. 645 00:41:04,590 --> 00:41:09,590 This is handpicked, hand processed coffees. 646 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:12,913 So I think it's really important to roast it properly. 647 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:16,450 Roasting is a science. 648 00:41:16,450 --> 00:41:17,470 It's where the flavor comes from. 649 00:41:17,470 --> 00:41:19,310 It's where you bring out the best of the coffee. 650 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:22,900 It's where, if you start with good coffee or great coffee, 651 00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:25,543 the way you roast it can enhance it or ruin it. 652 00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:32,750 It's a really skilled artisan process 653 00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:35,963 and it takes a long time to learn to do it right. 654 00:41:39,570 --> 00:41:40,720 To be a good coffee roaster, 655 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,090 I think you need to be very focused. 656 00:41:43,090 --> 00:41:44,390 You need to be able to like, 657 00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:46,510 do the exact same thing each time. 658 00:41:46,510 --> 00:41:49,520 So you only change one parameter at a time 659 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,650 'cause then you can actually test the coffees. 660 00:41:52,650 --> 00:41:55,573 That is one thing, and then be good at tasting coffee, 661 00:41:56,460 --> 00:41:57,710 taste, everything you do. 662 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,900 So what we always do is when we are to learn anything 663 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:08,010 about a coffee, you do two almost identical roasts. 664 00:42:08,010 --> 00:42:10,410 We make one slight change and then its A B cupping, 665 00:42:10,410 --> 00:42:12,840 so it's like everything we do we taste it, 666 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,623 and from that we learn every single day. 667 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,313 On the cupping table, 668 00:42:18,313 --> 00:42:21,823 it's more about the nuance of the specific roast. 669 00:42:23,330 --> 00:42:25,360 What is it that makes this one better than the other? 670 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,603 What if we do different? 671 00:42:27,770 --> 00:42:31,163 It's just a long process of trial and error. 672 00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:36,490 We have all these different graphs that we can look at. 673 00:42:36,490 --> 00:42:39,260 When we combine that, we taste everything. 674 00:42:39,260 --> 00:42:40,093 All of a sudden, 675 00:42:40,093 --> 00:42:41,930 we have this big puzzle where we can go in 676 00:42:41,930 --> 00:42:44,930 and actually see what creates more sweetness, 677 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:46,650 what creates more acidity. 678 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:48,950 So we can use this as a tool 679 00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:51,053 to learn more about roasting coffee. 680 00:42:54,860 --> 00:42:57,170 Every roast degree is a preference. 681 00:42:57,170 --> 00:42:59,460 So if something is dark roast for me, 682 00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:01,473 maybe that's a light roast for others. 683 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,660 So instead of talking about light or dark, 684 00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:09,510 I'd rather just say that we rose to the degree, 685 00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:13,070 we feel is the best to suit the coffee and the brewing 686 00:43:14,295 --> 00:43:17,045 (soothing music) 687 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,233 In general, we roast for filter or espresso. 688 00:44:10,890 --> 00:44:14,700 Filter coffee creates a very clean aromatic experience 689 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:19,283 where it's like very much focused on terroir of the coffee. 690 00:44:22,890 --> 00:44:25,520 If you brew a French press or an arrow press, 691 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,563 that's actually a different brew method. 692 00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:30,710 The water and the coffee is soaking together. 693 00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:31,660 Whereas in a filter, 694 00:44:31,660 --> 00:44:33,720 the water just passes through the coffee. 695 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:34,880 So even though you're kind of ended up 696 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,160 with something almost similar, 697 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,210 it's actually two different brew methods. 698 00:44:43,230 --> 00:44:46,610 Then you have espresso where it's more focused on, 699 00:44:46,610 --> 00:44:47,520 on the sweetness. 700 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,210 And it's another sensation where it's like 701 00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:51,920 more intense aroma and it's like a small thing, 702 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,323 but it lingers for longer. 703 00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:01,150 I think there's some essentials when you are to brew 704 00:45:01,150 --> 00:45:02,427 a good cup of coffee. 705 00:45:03,710 --> 00:45:06,260 Water is where we kind of extract the flavors. 706 00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:08,120 So a good water and a good grinder. 707 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,430 That is the most basic thing. 708 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:10,263 If you have that, 709 00:45:10,263 --> 00:45:13,663 you can brew amazing coffee on any coffee brewer. 710 00:45:22,610 --> 00:45:25,360 (birds chirping) 711 00:45:28,610 --> 00:45:30,188 For a coffee to be sustainable, 712 00:45:30,188 --> 00:45:32,980 it has to be sustainable for everyone. 713 00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:37,180 The roaster, the buyer, the farmer, the farm worker, 714 00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:40,163 for all the people involved in the supply chain. 715 00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:50,600 Coffee workers are very low paid 716 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,920 Here in Panama and we have a very strong economy. 717 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,140 We have the strongest economy in Central America. 718 00:45:56,140 --> 00:45:58,890 We have an agricultural minimum wage 719 00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:02,663 for our coffee worker of $11.30 a day. 720 00:46:05,610 --> 00:46:08,610 We pay our workers substantially more than that. 721 00:46:10,340 --> 00:46:12,910 You can't live on $11.30 a day, 722 00:46:12,910 --> 00:46:15,790 and then can't have any kind of quality of life. 723 00:46:15,790 --> 00:46:17,260 You can't support a family. 724 00:46:17,260 --> 00:46:21,520 You can't have proper nutrition or pay for any of the things 725 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,493 that most of us assume come with quality of life. 726 00:46:27,150 --> 00:46:27,983 To make it worse, 727 00:46:27,983 --> 00:46:30,710 most of the farms are paying their employees 728 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:32,900 between seven and $8 a day, 729 00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:35,650 they're not even making the minimum wage. 730 00:46:35,650 --> 00:46:37,683 In parts of the rest of the world, 731 00:46:38,650 --> 00:46:40,573 salaries much, much lower. 732 00:46:43,590 --> 00:46:45,880 And my contention in the whole thing here 733 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,940 is that it doesn't need to be this way, okay? 734 00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:49,860 Enormous amounts of money are being made 735 00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:51,640 at the point of consumption. 736 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,460 And very little of that is coming back down to origin. 737 00:46:54,460 --> 00:46:56,340 And I think it's a broken industry, 738 00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,293 an industry in need of major, major correction. 739 00:47:03,370 --> 00:47:04,920 When you're a coffee grower, 740 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,670 the two ways to be in business, 741 00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:08,720 whether you can be a quality seller, 742 00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,110 which means you're probably going to be exploiting 743 00:47:11,110 --> 00:47:14,420 the coffee or a quantity seller. 744 00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:18,630 Much, much, more profitable to be a quality seller, 745 00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:20,943 but much more difficult also. 746 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,570 When you're a farm owner, 747 00:47:23,570 --> 00:47:25,860 you incur your major expenses 748 00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:27,230 in the months during the harvest. 749 00:47:27,230 --> 00:47:30,730 So December, January, February, maybe even into March, 750 00:47:30,730 --> 00:47:34,980 nearly 60% of the cost of growing coffee is involved 751 00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:37,390 in paying the pickers to pick the cherries. 752 00:47:37,390 --> 00:47:39,770 But then when you send the coffee out for export, 753 00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:42,490 you won't receive your money until maybe November, 754 00:47:42,490 --> 00:47:44,170 or if you're lucky December. 755 00:47:44,170 --> 00:47:47,160 So you're talking about 10 or 12 month period 756 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,813 of cashflow strain. 757 00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:51,110 I'm very, very lucky. 758 00:47:51,110 --> 00:47:52,780 I mean, I know how lucky I am. 759 00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:54,210 I can withstand that. 760 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:56,240 But most of the people it's very much 761 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:57,920 of a hand to mouth industry. 762 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,440 You pick the cherries, you sell them 763 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,340 so that you can put food on the table. 764 00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:14,670 Everything is changing from year to year, 765 00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:18,353 the market price have been down to around $1 a pound. 766 00:48:19,690 --> 00:48:22,093 You can't even produce coffee at that cost. 767 00:48:24,830 --> 00:48:28,840 We want to create coffee experiences that excites us, 768 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,363 but also where we get to pay better prices to farmers. 769 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,840 The way we do it, it's always based on the quality. 770 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,510 So we don't wanna do any charity, it's not about that. 771 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:43,200 It's about buying from people that do amazing work, 772 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,840 and we know if we want the best quality, 773 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,080 we need to invest in the coffee. 774 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,003 So we need to pay a price that's fair for the product. 775 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,650 It's easy to say we pay well, but is that to an importer? 776 00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:57,253 Is it directly to the farm? 777 00:48:59,220 --> 00:49:01,270 I'd rather be talking about the traceability? 778 00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:04,880 How transparent are companies really willing to be? 779 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,163 I think that's the way we were heading. 780 00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:13,790 We do trade as direct as possible. 781 00:49:13,790 --> 00:49:15,010 Sometimes it's with the farm, 782 00:49:15,010 --> 00:49:16,660 sometimes would have corporate. 783 00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:19,920 It's been about making sure we do certain things. 784 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,250 We pay them minimum above the market price. 785 00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:26,000 We visit the producers so we build on the relationship. 786 00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:34,080 We work with people in some pretty poor areas. 787 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,770 So it's all about enhancing 788 00:49:35,770 --> 00:49:37,913 the living conditions first and foremost. 789 00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:41,308 Okay, they're using it for shade? 790 00:49:41,308 --> 00:49:43,960 They're using it of shade. 791 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,620 Food and coffee together grow. 792 00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:46,453 Yes. 793 00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:50,144 That's great, sounds good, yeah. 794 00:49:50,144 --> 00:49:51,894 Inter cropping, yeah. 795 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,040 Better housing, better food, better education. 796 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,570 And then of course, some invest in better equipment. 797 00:50:00,570 --> 00:50:02,180 How can they produce even better quality 798 00:50:02,180 --> 00:50:03,930 so they can get even higher prices? 799 00:50:06,050 --> 00:50:08,723 It's a beautiful thing to be a part of. 800 00:50:08,723 --> 00:50:11,270 It's a bigger washing station compared to (indistinct). 801 00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:12,390 This one? 802 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:13,446 Yeah. 803 00:50:13,446 --> 00:50:14,279 We work with many different countries now. 804 00:50:14,279 --> 00:50:15,860 In some countries we work in corporates, 805 00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:18,820 some other we work with small private farms 806 00:50:18,820 --> 00:50:21,371 and some, we work with bigger private farms. 807 00:50:21,371 --> 00:50:24,121 (birds chirping) 808 00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:41,713 Akmel has his own farm. 809 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:45,760 I tried to go twice a year and we've been working many years 810 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,973 to get the quality up. 811 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,800 The big luck we buy, we pay $3.70 per pound direct to Akmel. 812 00:50:54,170 --> 00:50:56,090 For the special things that we work on, 813 00:50:56,090 --> 00:50:58,663 we pay everything from four and a half dollars up to 814 00:50:58,663 --> 00:51:00,013 $7 per pound. 815 00:51:09,110 --> 00:51:11,460 It's fair for me, It's good for them. 816 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,860 Getting this price means you are going to have enough money 817 00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:19,770 to financially support your employee 818 00:51:19,770 --> 00:51:21,743 and then to make better your farm. 819 00:51:24,002 --> 00:51:27,252 (African upbeat music) 820 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,040 When you work, you're not working for yourself only, 821 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,750 you work for the country, you work for your family, 822 00:51:40,750 --> 00:51:42,320 you work for the community. 823 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,850 Really is good. 824 00:51:43,850 --> 00:51:45,500 It makes you happy inside of you. 825 00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:49,250 I support community school. 826 00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:51,710 Sometimes I go to give them a lecture 827 00:51:52,550 --> 00:51:54,930 because education is powerful. 828 00:51:54,930 --> 00:51:59,930 By being educated and you can have lots of opportunities. 829 00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:04,320 So please come to school and then be a good student. 830 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,980 And then I help a school always every year financially. 831 00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:12,220 Build classes and then buy equipment 832 00:52:12,220 --> 00:52:13,330 to support the equipment. 833 00:52:13,330 --> 00:52:16,479 I bought last year, a computer for the school. 834 00:52:16,479 --> 00:52:17,640 It means a lot for them 835 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,620 because kids they never sort of compete with other school. 836 00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:22,490 This is a very remote area. 837 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:24,020 Thank you very much. 838 00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:25,563 This year, they gave me award. 839 00:52:26,936 --> 00:52:29,417 That award is what I did for the community 840 00:52:29,417 --> 00:52:31,420 for the last few years. 841 00:52:31,420 --> 00:52:34,367 And then they really, very, thankful. 842 00:52:34,367 --> 00:52:37,663 They said, really they appreciate what I did for the school. 843 00:52:37,663 --> 00:52:39,630 And then I said, no problem. 844 00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:42,170 We work together and then whatever I can, 845 00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:43,457 I will help the school. 846 00:52:43,457 --> 00:52:46,207 (soothing music) 847 00:53:11,210 --> 00:53:13,250 Everybody's talking about sustainable this, 848 00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:15,230 sustainable that you even hear politicians 849 00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:19,150 talk about something being sustainable or not sustainable. 850 00:53:19,150 --> 00:53:24,150 But from its initial use from environmentalist 851 00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:29,800 and ecologist at first just has meant one of, 852 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,430 sort of ecological sustainability. 853 00:53:32,430 --> 00:53:36,980 Something that can be in place for an indefinite 854 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:38,880 amount of time and be sustained 855 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,823 kind of year after year after year. 856 00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:44,260 But I think also the it's more than that, 857 00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:47,950 it has to be socially sustainable, all right? 858 00:53:47,950 --> 00:53:49,840 People have to be involved with it 859 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,510 and have to be able to exist with it 860 00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:55,740 and gained from it year after year, 861 00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:57,690 and it has to be economically, of course, 862 00:53:57,690 --> 00:53:59,370 I think a lot of companies, 863 00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:01,470 when they talk about sustainability, 864 00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:03,990 they're only talking about the economic sustainability 865 00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:06,820 of whatever it is they're addressing, 866 00:54:06,820 --> 00:54:10,060 but I think you have those three where you have 867 00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:14,350 environmental, social, and economic sustainability. 868 00:54:14,350 --> 00:54:16,640 And that then means it can, 869 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,170 you know be in place for a very long time 870 00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:23,773 and continue to exist in whatever form it has. 871 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,310 If we valued the ecosystem services 872 00:54:33,310 --> 00:54:36,047 that were produced on shade coffee farms, 873 00:54:36,047 --> 00:54:38,520 and that's not just saving the birds, 874 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,180 it's protecting the watershed. 875 00:54:40,180 --> 00:54:43,223 It's creating lumber, it's sequestering carbon, 876 00:54:44,110 --> 00:54:45,410 it's saving pollinators. 877 00:54:45,410 --> 00:54:46,810 We need to do all of those things. 878 00:54:46,810 --> 00:54:49,710 None of which is happening in sun coffee, 879 00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:51,940 then it would, the economics would be very obvious. 880 00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:54,427 The trouble is we don't value those things 881 00:54:54,427 --> 00:54:57,710 and we value them, but we're not willing to pay for them. 882 00:54:57,710 --> 00:55:00,535 If there was actually monetary values associated with that, 883 00:55:00,535 --> 00:55:01,830 this would be a no-brainer. 884 00:55:01,830 --> 00:55:04,007 Everybody would be doing shade coffee. 885 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:32,090 So shade is really important for coffee 886 00:55:32,090 --> 00:55:32,950 for a number of reasons. 887 00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:34,204 So for one reason, 888 00:55:34,204 --> 00:55:37,380 we have a situation of climate change now 889 00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:39,860 that is creating warming conditions 890 00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:42,310 around the world obviously, and also locally. 891 00:55:42,310 --> 00:55:45,770 And so shade is really good to create a micro climate, 892 00:55:45,770 --> 00:55:47,170 so that really helps us. 893 00:55:47,170 --> 00:55:51,120 Shade also really helps to generate nutrient recycling. 894 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,330 So the trees will drop leaves that will mulch into the soil 895 00:55:55,330 --> 00:55:59,880 and provide a certain level of fertilization and nutrients 896 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,680 to the coffee plants themselves. 897 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,580 That's all really good for the coffee. 898 00:56:05,450 --> 00:56:07,800 Coffee doesn't need tons of rain, 899 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,150 but it does need a good level of humidity 900 00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:11,323 that stays in the soil. 901 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,890 The trees defoliate at the end of the harvest season, 902 00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:18,480 just as the dry seasons beginning. 903 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,770 And that's an incredible thing 904 00:56:19,770 --> 00:56:21,860 because basically this blanket of leaves 905 00:56:21,860 --> 00:56:25,823 then covers the soil, when the soil needs it the most. 906 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,893 All around, shade is just a great companion to coffee. 907 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,070 Here at Gaia, we have over 70 species of trees. 908 00:56:36,070 --> 00:56:39,970 It is really a lot like a forest in that sense, 909 00:56:39,970 --> 00:56:41,370 if you walk around this farm, 910 00:56:41,370 --> 00:56:43,240 you're gonna see tons of butterflies. 911 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,313 You're gonna see tons of insects. 912 00:56:46,690 --> 00:56:48,160 We're really proud of the sanctuary 913 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,640 that it provides for birds and all kinds of wildlife. 914 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,340 We have iguana, we have armadillo, 915 00:56:53,340 --> 00:56:55,850 we have rabbits, we have deer. 916 00:56:55,850 --> 00:56:57,860 We have all kinds of wildlife here 917 00:56:57,860 --> 00:57:01,650 and it's just really great to see this haven for wildlife 918 00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:02,483 on a farm. 919 00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:06,660 I love really nature. 920 00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:09,773 And then I love wild animals also. 921 00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:14,940 There's a sign, don't cut the trees and a no shot. 922 00:57:14,940 --> 00:57:15,890 Don't kill animals. 923 00:57:29,660 --> 00:57:31,583 I don't want animals to go away. 924 00:57:32,590 --> 00:57:34,463 I don't want forest to go away. 925 00:57:35,730 --> 00:57:39,320 I want coffee with the forest to be alive together 926 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,630 and then animals to be together there. 927 00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:44,990 So in the middle of my coffee land, 928 00:57:44,990 --> 00:57:49,990 I left about 21 hectares, untouched forest. 929 00:57:50,740 --> 00:57:53,090 It cannot work inside because it's deep forest. 930 00:57:58,130 --> 00:58:01,770 Sometimes when you see animals, they run away. 931 00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:04,700 You know where they run away, in that deep forest. 932 00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:08,193 So which means they have a place where to stay. 933 00:58:11,950 --> 00:58:13,710 Yeah, you cannot follow them. 934 00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:15,347 You cannot get them. 935 00:58:15,347 --> 00:58:18,808 You just hey, I'm at home, goodbye. 936 00:58:18,808 --> 00:58:21,650 (Akmel laughs) 937 00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:23,970 Well, coffee is just for a monkeys 938 00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:27,870 is belonged for nature. 939 00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:30,333 We didn't plant it so it's not ours. 940 00:58:40,460 --> 00:58:43,030 We have a lot of very interesting animals. 941 00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:48,030 They're monkeys and then wild pigs, and hyena, 942 00:58:48,860 --> 00:58:51,460 a lion, and a deer. 943 00:58:51,460 --> 00:58:52,713 A lot of birders. 944 00:58:55,630 --> 00:58:58,680 Well, the birds that make use of coffee farms, 945 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,410 they're not there necessarily for the coffee. 946 00:59:00,410 --> 00:59:02,100 They're there for the shade trees 947 00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:03,650 that are protecting the coffee. 948 00:59:04,780 --> 00:59:07,050 The birds will come to a shade coffee farm, 949 00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:10,990 especially if there is a diversity of shade trees, 950 00:59:10,990 --> 00:59:13,010 they're flowers that are providing nectar 951 00:59:13,010 --> 00:59:14,260 for certain birds. 952 00:59:14,260 --> 00:59:18,540 They're plants that are attracting insects for other birds 953 00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:20,410 that make use of insects. 954 00:59:20,410 --> 00:59:24,720 There places for birds to hang out because they feel safe 955 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,710 because it's dense vegetation. 956 00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:29,750 There, lots of trunks and limbs 957 00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:31,850 that certain birds like to run around on. 958 00:59:31,850 --> 00:59:33,566 And you know, birds do different things 959 00:59:33,566 --> 00:59:35,480 depending on what species they are. 960 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,860 So all of that structural diversity 961 00:59:37,860 --> 00:59:41,390 then provides what ecologists called different niches 962 00:59:41,390 --> 00:59:44,030 for birds to make a living. 963 00:59:44,030 --> 00:59:46,240 And so the more niches you have, 964 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,853 the more bird species you can support. 965 00:59:54,843 --> 00:59:57,593 (birds chirping) 966 01:00:00,030 --> 01:00:03,000 42 out of our 54 species of warblers 967 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,560 in North America come down to coffee farms. 968 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:10,060 That's by far, most of them are orioles, swallows, 969 01:00:10,060 --> 01:00:14,363 vireos, buntings, what else? 970 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,600 Fly catchers, they're all coming south. 971 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,830 And many, many of those are attempting 972 01:00:21,830 --> 01:00:24,000 to spend the winter in what is now coffee farms. 973 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,140 They're coming to where they always came. 974 01:00:26,140 --> 01:00:28,790 But if it's recently been converted to a coffee farm, 975 01:00:29,630 --> 01:00:30,730 that's what they have. 976 01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:35,850 In the past, 977 01:00:35,850 --> 01:00:39,530 people thought that the shade trees will support wildlife 978 01:00:39,530 --> 01:00:42,460 simply because they're trees and they're providing shade. 979 01:00:42,460 --> 01:00:43,990 Nobody was thinking very much about the food 980 01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:44,913 that they provide. 981 01:00:47,870 --> 01:00:48,770 People don't like insects. 982 01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:52,730 They don't realize though that they're the primary component 983 01:00:52,730 --> 01:00:54,223 of terrestrial food webs. 984 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,010 It's the insect that is eating the plant 985 01:00:57,010 --> 01:01:00,830 and then transferring the energy to birds and reptiles 986 01:01:00,830 --> 01:01:04,360 and mammals and all kinds of other things. 987 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,350 As if we lost our insects, 988 01:01:05,350 --> 01:01:07,340 we would lose most of the biological diversity 989 01:01:07,340 --> 01:01:08,183 on this planet. 990 01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:09,973 But you don't have the insects 991 01:01:09,973 --> 01:01:12,560 if you don't have the right plants that support them. 992 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,390 So the more trees we have in this coffee farms, the better, 993 01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:17,400 but the more productive those trees are, 994 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,650 the better for the birds. 995 01:01:25,498 --> 01:01:27,550 Birds are ecological indicators 996 01:01:27,550 --> 01:01:30,173 that tell us how our ecosystems are doing. 997 01:01:32,970 --> 01:01:35,010 We have 50% fewer songbirds today 998 01:01:35,010 --> 01:01:36,780 than we had just 40 years ago. 999 01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:38,930 So that tells us there's something very wrong 1000 01:01:38,930 --> 01:01:41,180 with the ecosystem supporting these birds. 1001 01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:43,540 And those are the same ecosystem supporting us. 1002 01:01:43,540 --> 01:01:46,140 And we don't wanna wait until those systems collapse 1003 01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:47,380 to try to do something about it. 1004 01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:49,593 We've got to do it proactively. 1005 01:01:56,060 --> 01:02:01,060 Well, there used to be an ad, which said, 1006 01:02:01,350 --> 01:02:04,580 if you wink it a pretty girl in the dark, 1007 01:02:04,580 --> 01:02:06,670 no one knows that you're doing it. 1008 01:02:06,670 --> 01:02:08,203 You need to advertise. 1009 01:02:09,630 --> 01:02:12,860 So I guess it's kind of like that. 1010 01:02:12,860 --> 01:02:16,170 If you are doing all this work, 1011 01:02:16,170 --> 01:02:19,470 you need something which says I am doing it 1012 01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:23,020 and I can tell people that I am doing it. 1013 01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:26,950 And I've been certified now since 2002. 1014 01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:30,050 Everything that we produce is organic. 1015 01:02:30,050 --> 01:02:33,440 And I'm not saying that everybody has to go organic, 1016 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,510 but they need to go sustainable. 1017 01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:39,873 And conventional production is not sustainable. 1018 01:02:42,311 --> 01:02:44,950 I don't think that you can feel 1019 01:02:48,070 --> 01:02:51,410 that you have custody over a piece of land 1020 01:02:51,410 --> 01:02:52,573 that you can abuse. 1021 01:02:53,410 --> 01:02:57,830 And to me, putting in massive pesticides and fertilizers, 1022 01:02:57,830 --> 01:03:01,480 which break down the soil is a form of abuse. 1023 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:06,480 So I had to find a way of working with the soil, 1024 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:10,253 with the farm, with the plants that were there. 1025 01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:13,820 And the process was organic. 1026 01:03:13,820 --> 01:03:17,120 What the certification does is to make sure 1027 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,610 that people know that you are doing 1028 01:03:20,610 --> 01:03:21,910 what you say you're doing. 1029 01:03:34,170 --> 01:03:37,890 We need to remember that third parties need 1030 01:03:37,890 --> 01:03:41,630 to exist to ensure the consumer, 1031 01:03:41,630 --> 01:03:45,130 that what the label says they're getting 1032 01:03:45,130 --> 01:03:46,060 is what they're getting. 1033 01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:50,110 So consumers cannot just trust a company 1034 01:03:51,050 --> 01:03:53,786 and their social mission based on what they say 1035 01:03:53,786 --> 01:03:55,780 that they are offering. 1036 01:03:55,780 --> 01:03:57,130 Because companies can offer 1037 01:03:57,130 --> 01:03:59,570 all kinds of marketing approaches, 1038 01:03:59,570 --> 01:04:01,060 but you're just trusting their word. 1039 01:04:01,060 --> 01:04:05,330 And while there are companies with many good intentions, 1040 01:04:05,330 --> 01:04:07,700 it's a third party certification that comes in 1041 01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:10,620 and really looks at a number of criteria and says, 1042 01:04:10,620 --> 01:04:13,020 okay, you're meeting the criteria or you're not. 1043 01:04:16,430 --> 01:04:19,040 Bird friendly coffee refers to coffee 1044 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:24,040 that is certified as being good for birds. 1045 01:04:24,220 --> 01:04:26,970 Now the first criterion for us is that 1046 01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:29,690 the coffee needs to be certified organic. 1047 01:04:29,690 --> 01:04:33,340 Just because there's way too much scientific literature 1048 01:04:33,340 --> 01:04:36,693 on the impact of agrochemicals on wildlife. 1049 01:04:38,610 --> 01:04:40,730 If a farm is certified organic, 1050 01:04:40,730 --> 01:04:45,480 and then the management of the shade meets some criteria 1051 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,110 we created, then it can be bird friendly. 1052 01:04:49,110 --> 01:04:51,440 Now, the criteria that we created 1053 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,700 came directly out of field research, 1054 01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:57,330 done by colleagues that I have at the Migratory Bird Center, 1055 01:04:57,330 --> 01:05:01,330 where it was determined that the height of the trees 1056 01:05:01,330 --> 01:05:03,090 is an important factor. 1057 01:05:03,090 --> 01:05:06,170 The species diversity of the trees that are providing shade 1058 01:05:06,170 --> 01:05:07,910 is an important factor. 1059 01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:11,840 The overall foliage cover that is being provided 1060 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,220 is an important variable as well. 1061 01:05:14,220 --> 01:05:16,313 And the structure is also important. 1062 01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:19,533 Well, sun dried coffee 1063 01:05:19,533 --> 01:05:20,810 does not have canopy trees. 1064 01:05:20,810 --> 01:05:23,300 It's fully exposed to the sun. 1065 01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:24,390 So if there are no trees, 1066 01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:26,520 there's no place for birds to forage 1067 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,270 and then you're certainly not producing the insects 1068 01:05:28,270 --> 01:05:29,330 they wanna forage on. 1069 01:05:29,330 --> 01:05:32,363 So it's a very harsh environment for birds. 1070 01:05:34,820 --> 01:05:37,210 Coffee is grown in the most biologically diverse regions 1071 01:05:37,210 --> 01:05:38,570 of the world. 1072 01:05:38,570 --> 01:05:40,410 So this is a perfect opportunity. 1073 01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:43,200 It's really a profound conservation opportunity 1074 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,143 to use shade trees properly. 1075 01:05:52,860 --> 01:05:54,855 We have the option of growing the coffee 1076 01:05:54,855 --> 01:05:57,720 and saving it for something else at the same time. 1077 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,420 So we're not talking about giving up the agriculture. 1078 01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:02,079 This is just one of the unique opportunities 1079 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:04,003 to do both at the same time. 1080 01:06:09,295 --> 01:06:13,460 It was amazing to see how after two years 1081 01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:15,423 for being bird friendly and organic, 1082 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,883 with us seeing so many birds and new life in differ. 1083 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,310 I love birds. 1084 01:06:27,310 --> 01:06:28,143 I love trees. 1085 01:06:28,143 --> 01:06:30,110 I love everything, 1086 01:06:30,110 --> 01:06:34,303 but I thought I have to prove that this is true. 1087 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,000 That's the reason why there is a need 1088 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,680 to have the certifications. 1089 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,680 The certification is needed so the consumer 1090 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,803 knows that I'm not selling something that is not true. 1091 01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:56,440 So what bird friendly coffee is, 1092 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,550 is it's coffee that you know comes from 1093 01:06:59,550 --> 01:07:02,580 a place that's good for migratory birds, 1094 01:07:02,580 --> 01:07:05,740 it's good for local biodiversity. 1095 01:07:05,740 --> 01:07:08,230 It's good for family farmers and their children 1096 01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:11,480 and their workers and it's good for the earth we all share. 1097 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,313 And it's also great tasting coffee. 1098 01:07:15,980 --> 01:07:16,813 Bird friendly, 1099 01:07:16,813 --> 01:07:19,840 I think is the gold standard of environmental coffee. 1100 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,210 It is the gold standard in the sense that 1101 01:07:22,210 --> 01:07:25,363 it is rewarding farmers for doing the right thing. 1102 01:07:27,470 --> 01:07:30,050 There's no use of agrochemicals, 1103 01:07:30,050 --> 01:07:32,220 no pesticides, no herbicides. 1104 01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:35,317 And that has a positive effect on birds 1105 01:07:35,317 --> 01:07:37,590 and it has a positive effect on all the biodiversity 1106 01:07:37,590 --> 01:07:38,990 on the farm and the workers. 1107 01:07:41,310 --> 01:07:44,410 I don't wanna get too rigid 1108 01:07:44,410 --> 01:07:47,300 and to say that the only approach to sustainable production 1109 01:07:47,300 --> 01:07:50,143 is organic and shade grown at the same time, 1110 01:07:51,070 --> 01:07:52,783 I do think it's the gold standard. 1111 01:07:54,457 --> 01:07:57,207 (soothing music) 1112 01:08:28,849 --> 01:08:31,599 (birds chirping) 1113 01:08:44,430 --> 01:08:47,190 We have 132 species of birds that we've observed 1114 01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:48,830 on the farm. 1115 01:08:48,830 --> 01:08:50,540 That's a sign that the ecosystem is healthy 1116 01:08:50,540 --> 01:08:52,320 and that we're doing something right 1117 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,980 to nurture that ecosystem. 1118 01:08:53,980 --> 01:08:55,620 We're not damaging. 1119 01:08:55,620 --> 01:08:58,500 The whole idea is that we can help to enhance 1120 01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:02,113 the health of the ecosystem and make a livelihood. 1121 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,660 We need to plant for the future 1122 01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:12,620 and grow for the future. 1123 01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:15,440 So that's what sustainability is. 1124 01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:18,090 It's looking down that road and saying, 1125 01:09:18,090 --> 01:09:22,150 if I do this, this soil is going to be healthy. 1126 01:09:22,150 --> 01:09:24,140 These trees are going to be healthy. 1127 01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:27,823 We're going to be able to keep producing on this land. 1128 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:37,930 I think consumers 1129 01:09:37,930 --> 01:09:39,997 should get more involved in the process, 1130 01:09:39,997 --> 01:09:43,410 and the not only consume, consume, consume, 1131 01:09:43,410 --> 01:09:46,430 but understand what they're putting inside their bodies. 1132 01:09:46,430 --> 01:09:47,550 You know what they're buying, 1133 01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:51,410 knowing where their product comes from, how it was produced. 1134 01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:54,283 All the people that are involved in the process. 1135 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,570 I think people should ask that to the store 1136 01:09:58,570 --> 01:10:00,693 or wherever they get the coffee. 1137 01:10:04,469 --> 01:10:07,210 They ask about what's happening on the farm, 1138 01:10:07,210 --> 01:10:09,200 where this coffee is being grown? 1139 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,870 What are the soil conditions? 1140 01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:12,830 What are the shade conditions? 1141 01:10:12,830 --> 01:10:15,143 What are the worker's conditions? 1142 01:10:16,890 --> 01:10:20,620 You can demand a higher quality product with your dollars. 1143 01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:22,945 You're spending a lot of money for it. 1144 01:10:22,945 --> 01:10:24,890 I mean you really are the idea that you can spend $5, 1145 01:10:24,890 --> 01:10:27,800 five Euro for a cup of coffee. 1146 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,580 And the guy who grows is making $5 all day, 1147 01:10:31,580 --> 01:10:33,563 we can do better as an industry. 1148 01:10:40,150 --> 01:10:42,050 There will always be coffee, okay. 1149 01:10:42,050 --> 01:10:43,597 There will always be coffee. 1150 01:10:43,597 --> 01:10:46,190 The question is whether there will always be 1151 01:10:46,190 --> 01:10:47,730 wonderful (indistinct) coffee? 1152 01:10:47,730 --> 01:10:49,180 I think there will be, 1153 01:10:49,180 --> 01:10:50,700 but who's gonna produce it? 1154 01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:51,920 How's it gonna be produced? 1155 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,360 Will it be ethically produced? 1156 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:54,763 That's the big question. 1157 01:11:02,270 --> 01:11:03,690 There have to be market incentives 1158 01:11:03,690 --> 01:11:06,840 for sustainable production of coffee. 1159 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,170 And until that happens, 1160 01:11:09,170 --> 01:11:12,770 then farmers will be responding to signals 1161 01:11:12,770 --> 01:11:14,623 that will them to make a living. 1162 01:11:15,460 --> 01:11:19,143 And we just have to get those market signals, right? 1163 01:11:26,220 --> 01:11:30,720 I think responsible consumers, educated consumers, 1164 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,870 consumers that really care about the environment 1165 01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:35,380 and know more about things like organic 1166 01:11:35,380 --> 01:11:37,210 and bird friendly coffee, 1167 01:11:37,210 --> 01:11:39,110 can really begin to make a difference. 1168 01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,710 If the people buy and drink coffee, 1169 01:11:44,710 --> 01:11:48,060 want coffee to be produced in a sustainable way, it will be. 1170 01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:50,170 If they don't, it won't be. 1171 01:11:50,170 --> 01:11:51,120 That's it. 1172 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,120 I believe in the market system that way. 1173 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,800 So it's up to the end user 1174 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,810 to say, no, we want Fairtrade Coffee, 1175 01:11:58,810 --> 01:12:00,360 No, we want Organic Coffee. 1176 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,260 No, we want Bird Friendly Coffee. 1177 01:12:02,260 --> 01:12:05,330 And if they vote with their pocketbooks, 1178 01:12:05,330 --> 01:12:06,630 there'll be some movement. 1179 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,320 You can do a lot of good just by drinking coffee. 1180 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:15,577 It's a great way to feel good. 1181 01:12:15,577 --> 01:12:17,440 It's a great way to start the day. 1182 01:12:29,170 --> 01:12:31,210 Buy that shade coffee is one, 1183 01:12:31,210 --> 01:12:33,650 but think about your daily life 1184 01:12:33,650 --> 01:12:37,500 and how, what you do impacts the things around you. 1185 01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:40,313 Very simple changes often can make a huge difference. 1186 01:12:42,580 --> 01:12:44,810 We've had this idea that humans are here 1187 01:12:44,810 --> 01:12:46,440 and nature is someplace else. 1188 01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:47,930 And that worked for a long time 1189 01:12:47,930 --> 01:12:49,500 because there weren't very many humans 1190 01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:51,140 and there was a lot of nature. 1191 01:12:51,140 --> 01:12:54,270 Now there's a lot of humans and very little nature, 1192 01:12:54,270 --> 01:12:56,950 not enough nature to support all those humans. 1193 01:12:56,950 --> 01:13:00,680 So we now have to have nature again in our yards, 1194 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,850 where we farm, in our cities, where we play, 1195 01:13:03,850 --> 01:13:08,380 we have to share all of our spaces with other species. 1196 01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:09,670 And that's fun. 1197 01:13:09,670 --> 01:13:11,633 We're not talking about a sacrifice here. 1198 01:13:29,470 --> 01:13:31,140 To the degree possible, 1199 01:13:31,140 --> 01:13:33,430 more consumers they need to look at the value 1200 01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:35,240 of shade grown coffee. 1201 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,223 Look for it, prioritize it, buy it wherever they can. 1202 01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:42,210 It might cost just a tad bit more, 1203 01:13:42,210 --> 01:13:44,130 but it really is worth it, 1204 01:13:44,130 --> 01:13:47,207 for the farmers, for the landscape, for the planet. 1205 01:13:48,436 --> 01:13:51,186 (soothing music) 89148

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