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INDISTINCT CHATTER
Leo!
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Leo!
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SHOUTED ENCOURAGEMENT
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CHEERING
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# I lost my mind
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# So I stepped out for a time... #
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Messi. Give it to him and pray.
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Messi! Goal!
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It had to be Messi!
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# ..on a long road to unwind
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# I met myself there
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# Saying, go home... #
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It's not easy to be always
at the peak of your game.
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It's basically impossible. But he
made it feel like it was possible.
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He's always a few seconds before
the rest.
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He's doing it at a speed
that no-one else works at.
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The talent's just incredible.
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# Yeah, they knocked me out then
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# They barely move now... #
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Messi collects.
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Messi scores!
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Everyone will remember him
as the greatest.
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Messi!
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Nobody could really believe
that he would go somewhere.
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He's Leo Messi. He's supposed to
finish his career in Barcelona.
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MESSI SNIFFS
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Messi's Barca. Barca's Messi.
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Messi's Barca.
He's a symbol of Barca.
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They think, in Barcelona,
Messi is one of them.
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A Catalan.
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CROWD CHANT: Messi! Messi! Messi!
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The Messis are a typical
Rosario family -
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humble, from a
working-class background.
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You could see those values,
the family values, in Leo, you know.
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He married Antonela, his childhood
girlfriend from the neighbourhood.
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He's still very close to that area,
to his friends.
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DOG BARKS
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He was a very small kid.
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You know, he didn't speak.
He was very, very shy.
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The first training session
we had with Leo, and I was playing
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a bit more as a
defensive midfielder,
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and we were doing this exercise
of one against one.
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In my head, I'm thinking that
I'm going to get the ball easy,
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you know, from him, because
I like to go on the floor
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and I like to tackle.
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But then I was seeing
that he was coming with...
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The speed was not normal. He was
coming very, very fast at me,
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and I was already shocked, because
I remember falling on the floor.
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You know, I lost ability
and he scored the goal.
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So, from that moment I said,
"Hold on a second,
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"we need to take this
boy very, very seriously."
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Before, it was not that normal
to see players
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at that age coming from so far.
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We were all from
the area, Barcelona.
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If you were very good, they could
take you from somewhere in Spain.
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So, of course, you know,
seeing someone coming from
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so, so far away at such a young age,
we all thought,
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"Wow, this boy must be something
really special."
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Once in Barcelona, things didn't
work smoothly,
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and six months after arrival,
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there was a turning point of
everybody's life.
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Leo's dad and mum, Celia and Jorge,
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had been together
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since they were teenagers.
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Sister wasn't adapting.
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Matias, he had a girlfriend back
in Rosario.
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It was a time to decide - do we stay
in Barcelona
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or do we go back to Rosario?
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They sat around the table,
the whole family.
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"Leo, what do you want to do?"
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And Leo said, "I want to succeed.
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"I want to be a Barcelona. I want
to be a professional player."
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The consequences of that -
they hadn't told Leo, of course -
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is that meant that Mum will take
sister and the two brothers back
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to Rosario, and Dad will stay
with him.
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You need to be mentally
very, very strong.
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You need to have
a special character.
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Otherwise, you don't succeed.
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There is so many moments
where you feel weak,
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where you... You know, your
head mislead you a little bit,
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that you want to go back
to your family,
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you want to go back to your habits,
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to your grandparents,
to your friends,
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to playing football
where you started.
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So, I'm sure it was very tough,
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but I want to believe that,
you know, we were good kids as well,
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and we tried all the ways
to be next to him and help him
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as much as we could.
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There were moments,
a lot of moments,
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where I'm sure Leo must have,
if not doubted,
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at least wondered what
he's done to his family.
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And often he would go into his room
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and put his head under
the pillow and cry.
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And he did that so his dad didn't
hear him cry,
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because he then, at 14,15,
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realised that because of his
decision, he couldn't get it wrong,
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and basically now it was his time
to deliver.
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Gerard Pique also left
the year after me,
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and Gerard and I,
we were from Barcelona.
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We were there because maybe
we were the best in Barcelona,
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not because they saw us in
Argentina, 12 years old,
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and they thought we could be one
of the best players in the world.
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Hello.
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The first time I saw him, actually,
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was when we went to pre-season tour
to Asia with Barcelona.
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And it was my second year there.
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And, yeah, you're a lot
of young players
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and the regular squad,
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and Leo was coming with us,
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and I haven't seen
him playing football,
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but obviously I understood
that if he's with us,
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he can play a little bit.
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And I remember talking to
Giovanni van Bronckhorst
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after the first practice,
"Who's that guy?"
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And he said, "It's Lionel Messi."
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He's from Barca B, he's going
to come in and play with us."
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And I said, "Ah. Well, he can play."
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His character back then was quiet,
breathing in the situation.
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At the time, Ronaldinho was
the main man in the dressing room.
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He was the number ten.
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What he could do with the ball
was just incredible.
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When I joined Barcelona,
when arriving in the changing Room,
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Ronaldinho put me aside
and he started to speak with me
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and he said, "Whatever you need,
I'm here for you."
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He did exactly the same with Leo.
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Him, Deco,
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they were superstars,
but they were so humble.
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With Leo, he understand he will
become in the future
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one of the greatest of all time,
you know?
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So, he was there for every
single moment.
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When I saw Ronaldinho, I thought,
this is the best footballer
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I will ever see, up until that day.
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Ronaldinho handled everything
with a smile.
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Leo is a little bit
more introvert,
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but I think saw what it takes
to be the main man.
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Leo Messi's brought
the Camp Nou to life!
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We were meeting without Leo.
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Sometimes we were speaking about his
talent, and we were making, like,
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some kind of plans to make
him grow in the best way.
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In that meeting, it was Deco,
Ronaldinho, Puyol, Xavi.
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People who made history
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not only in Barcelona
but in football world.
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Perfect.
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STADIUM ANNOUNCER:
Claudia Schiffer und Pele.
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For the 2006 World Cup,
the whole FIFA machinery
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is now making a thing about Messi.
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And so there's buildings in Germany
with his picture,
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and there's a lot riding
on this expectation.
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Young Leo would have just won
the Youth World Cup,
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and he was part of that generation
of young players coming through
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with Jose Pekerman as the manager.
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COMMENTATOR: Listen to the roar
that greets this young man.
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It's only his eighth cap.
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His nickname is The Flea.
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In front, we play me and Saviola,
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Tevez and Riquelme.
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We were a great team.
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He's coming and joins us
as a number 23 or 22,
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in terms of the list.
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Everyone wants to see Messi.
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And Messi's already a name
and a thing,
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but he's never played World Cup.
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He was a really young player,
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but at the same time show us -
everything, he can do it.
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Pekerman plays Messi not
that much in that World Cup.
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And in fact, when Argentina
go out to Germany,
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Messi's on the bench.
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COMMENTATOR: It's Germany!
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Jens Lehmann is the hero.
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Germany are into the last four!
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This is the one instance, I think,
in the history of world football
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where it was unanimous
that people were furious
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that Messi didn't play.
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Messi was furious,
the Argentinian FA were furious,
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the fans were furious,
the journalists were furious.
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Possibly FIFA were furious.
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When you are eliminated
after the World Cup,
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everyone wants to find the guilty,
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every of us wants to...
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"If I change that or that
to change the history."
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The history, you never change it.
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Leo started to accumulate games
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and started to score goals
and to be different.
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Those two years - 2006, 2007 -
were a turning point.
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I was playing for Espanyol
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and he was on the other side
of the city.
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He had some friends, but he was shy
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and I felt like I need
to look after him.
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I need to make sure that
he's always good
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and surrounded by nice people
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because in football, when you...
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..when you become a star,
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everyone wants to come
and be your friend.
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I was the only one to drive,
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so I used to take him a few
times to some restaurant,
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and I remember his father
talking and saying,
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"Please, take care of him, you know,
look after Leo."
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For me, it was like having an...
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Imagine £80 million next to me.
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HE CHUCKLES
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The main thing was just to drop
Messi off in his house
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and safe and all that.
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Nobody knew me. That's...
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I was playing for the other team of
the city,
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but everyone knew Messi.
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You started to see Rijkaard wanted
to play him more
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because obviously, even at this
high level, he could...
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..have great use of Lionel.
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At one point, he scored when...
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..when he wanted to score.
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SPANISH COMMENTARY
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At a time where you don't give
17-year-olds opportunities,
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especially in Barcelona, the manager
will demand players
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that are already matured
and that allow Barcelona to win.
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It wasn't the done thing
to get youngsters through.
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Yes, at some point.
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For instance, Iniesta started making
an impact when he was 23,
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Xavi when he was 22
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At 17, it's just... It wasn't
the done thing.
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But Frank gave him the opportunity.
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Frank, for me, was the best
coach I had.
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He had the right word in every
single moment for any one of us.
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Frank could see the context
of the situation,
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could see how important it was
that in the first few years
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there wasn't so much demand
towards Messi.
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He became like an older
brother to Leo.
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I think he was lucky
to have the first coach Frank,
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because Frank was different.
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He always told him, "Leo,
you are a winger right now
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"because you've got pace and you can
influence the game a lot in there,
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"but you are going to be, at some
point, the main focal point.
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"It could be under me
or under somebody else,
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"because you're going to grow
to become a player that wins games."
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COMMENTATOR: Xavi.
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Messi.
SPANISH COMMENTARY
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COMMENTATOR: But here's
Maradona again.
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Has Burruchaga to his left,
and Valdano to his left.
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He won't need any of them.
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Oh! You have to say
that's magnificent.
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Everybody said it's like
the Maradona magic is back
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in the feet of this guy
from Rosario.
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Pure football genius.
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How do you compare yourself
to Maradona if you're Argentine?
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I mean, the two goals
that Maradona scored
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against England in 1986
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were living out
an Argentine fantasy.
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He already had become the big hope
of Argentinian football.
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But of course, what everybody wanted
is not just that he becomes
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the leader of Argentina and makes
them win the World Cup,
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as Maradona had done -
people wanted him to be Maradona.
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MUSIC: La Bamba
by Dusty Springfield
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Maradona, Maradona, Maradona.
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Diego brought so much joy
to the Argentinian people.
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If you're creating a narrative,
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you want disaster as well
as the triumph,
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and Maradona had had that.
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And he wins the World Cup.
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The truth is, in terms of football,
they are so similar.
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Off the pitch,
they're massively different.
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Diego is a huge personality
off the pitch as well -
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a massive ego, huge following.
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Everywhere he went, his life
was madness.
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Messi's quiet and much
calmer off the field.
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Maradona, from the very moment
he arrives,
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people realise this is...
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I mean, his nickname
immediately was El Pibe de Oro -
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the golden urchin,
the golden child, the golden boy.
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It's that he looks like the ideal
of an Argentinian
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and that he has this very
dramatic life story.
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And so I guess that's the pressure -
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he is always being compared directly
to Maradona,
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but until he wins a World Cup,
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he's never going to match him
for Argentinians.
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Have you seen that advertisement
of a...
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of a rabbit with, um...
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..with drums.
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He's got two batteries,
that rabbit.
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You take one, it stops.
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Messi had only one -
couldn't grow naturally.
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What the hormones did,
once they identified
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that he had a growth problem,
was to make him grow naturally.
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That was already a test to his
endurance and his mental strength
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because he just had to get
this little thing, open it,
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injection, just put it into his leg,
and move on.
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And to see an 11-year-old doing
that, it must have been a shock.
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The way they worked at the time
was that agents proposed players
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to the club and there were agents
that were close to Barcelona,
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like Jose Maria Minguella.
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He told Barcelona that it
would be a good idea to get him,
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and the reaction from the club
was like,
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"A 12-year-old from Argentina?"
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That wasn't done and.
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And, all right, they convinced
Barcelona to do a trial for Leo.
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Charly Rexach, the director
of football at the time, arrived,
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started walking as the game
was going on,
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was looking at what Messi was doing,
must have been one minute, two,
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sits on the bench and tells
the coaches,
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"Exactly why you haven't signed
that guy yet?"
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Because he was outstanding.
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There was a meeting in a tennis club
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and I think it was Charly who asked
for a napkin, paper napkin,
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and a pen and just wrote
a few conditions.
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And, you know,
"I, Charly Rexach, agrees
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"that Leo Messi will be a player."
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Barcelona signed it and gave
it to Minguella,
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hoping that that was enough.
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And, yes, that was enough.
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Watching this Barcelona
team was brilliant.
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That was Pep's first experience
as a coach in Barcelona
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with probably the best Messi,
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with prime Leo.
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Pep improved Messi
and Messi improved Pep.
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They were... They were
perfect together.
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That was probably the best team he
played in, Barcelona at that time.
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I mean, they were so strong,
weren't they?
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With Iniesta and Xavi and
Pique and Puyol -
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all these wonderfully
gifted players.
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So if you've got a great team behind
you, that's going to help you.
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However great you are,
you do need a team.
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CHAMPIONS LEAGUE ANTHEM PLAYS
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COMMENTATOR: It's Manchester United
against Barcelona
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for the biggest European Cup prize
of them all.
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SPANISH COMMENTARY
Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo...
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We were ready for Messi, yeah.
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We thought.
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We'd played against him before
and we'd locked him down.
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Um... But this was
a different Messi.
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This was Messi who had more freedom
to run around
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and pop up anywhere
and surprise you.
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Pfft.
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If you were picking out the five
best players in the world -
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Messi, Ronaldo, right?
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Xavi, Iniesta, and
many would argue Busquets.
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So four of the top five players
in the world, arguably,
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are playing in that one team.
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COMMENTATOR: Barca lead 1-0.
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Hold on, and they had Pep Guardiola.
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Do you know what I mean?
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What I used to do a lot
is gamble on their...
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..their lack of ability to be able
to get the ball past me.
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Problem was the person on the ball
was Xavi.
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Si.
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If you know your players,
you know who you're dealing with.
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SPANISH COMMENTARY
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Scores with a header!
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Lionel Messi makes it
Barcelona 2-0 Manchester United.
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When Messi scores the header
and everyone says,
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"But, like, the size of you,
the size of him..."
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An outrageous header, really.
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He hasn't scored many of them
in his career
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but he's done it in the big moment.
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HORNS HONKING
CHANTING
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Messi!
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CHEERING
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Barcelona ended up winning
absolutely everything
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because he was the best player
in the world at the time.
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The thing about him is that he took
it naturally.
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You know, for him, it's in his
veins, it's in his blood.
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He just wants to win at any cost.
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Whatever he needs to do,
he will do to win.
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Leo always wanted to win
something with Argentina.
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He said many, many times that he
will swap all his individual awards
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for winning something
with Argentina.
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HE SINGS IN SPANISH
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In 2010, as always, the expectations
were very high.
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CHANTS IN SPANISH
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Messi's the best player
in the world.
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Better than Maradona. Better than
anybody. Better than Ronaldo.
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Messi!
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Diego Maradona in charge
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with a very good group of players,
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with Leo with a few years under his
belt as the main player.
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The relationship was very good.
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Diego loved Leo,
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and for Leo, Diego obviously
was a hero.
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It ended up in disaster.
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COMMENTATOR: It's four!
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Getting destroyed by Germany.
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Maradona's Argentina are out.
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I think the expectation to have
in the same squad Leo
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and also Diego as a manager was...
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..was difficult.
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Things got very volatile
between Diego Maradona
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and the whole Argentina
football world.
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INAUDIBLE
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Maradona thrived on conflict.
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His fuel was this very nice word
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from Argentinian slang
- bronca.
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Argentina against the world,
him against the other players.
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He really fed off this sense
of conflict.
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I think Messi is evolutionarily
more advanced
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and rather than thriving on
conflict, he thrives on cooperation,
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which is really...in the kind of
evolutionary term,
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survival has always come about
through cooperation
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rather than competition.
And so Messi needs to be part
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of a well-oiled,
harmonious machinery
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that is about him being in
a cooperative system.
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COMMENTATOR: We're at Wembley
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and it's the 2011
Champions League final,
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arguably the biggest game
in football.
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The finals where we got Barcelona,
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unfortunately for us, we were facing
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the best team in the world
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with one of the best players
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that's ever, ever put on a pair
of football boots.
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I look at it now and think, you know
what, how unlucky is that, really?"
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To get to two finals and we bump
into them. It's a liberty really.
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Si. It shouldn't be allowed.
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COMMENTATOR: Xavi.
On to the unmarked Pedro.
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And it's a goal for Barcelona!
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Messi was just
like...no eye contact,
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nothing. He just separated himself.
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He just played away from you.
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And then, all of a sudden, he'd turn
up - bang.
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Sir Alex Ferguson said that he
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should've put Ji-sung
Park on him maybe.
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If anyone could've done it,
he would've been the guy.
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But I've watched some of the clips
in that game
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and he moves Ji-sung Park about.
Woo-woomp, moves him, see you later.
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He would have slowed him down maybe,
which maybe would have been enough.
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But does that stop prime-time
Lionel Messi?
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I very much doubt it.
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I don't think one player can do it.
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Iniesta. Messi still lurking deep.
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The ball played between Xavi
and Iniesta once more.
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Messi's available.
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Messi given the ball.
Scurries forward.
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What a goal from Lionel Messi!
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SPANISH COMMENTARY
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I remember standing on the pitch
and just going,
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"We just need to get off here
because they've just took..."
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"They've took our soul, basically."
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And Messi was the main ingredient.
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The Pep years were probably
the start of Messi's peak.
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It's been a long peak!
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I get a bit carried away by Messi.
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I don't mind admitting that
because he fills me with joy.
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If I had one game left on Earth,
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I'd watch Messi
because Messi stirs the soul.
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Never fails to take
the breath away.
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He does four or five things in every
game I would never have been able
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to do once in my entire career.
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He's running with the ball,
tighter control than anyone,
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quicker than anybody,
and the agility to be able
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to change direction,
all with his head up.
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00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,680
Just a wonderful footballer, man.
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00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,840
Just, like, can't even put it
into words, how good is.
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Sometimes I thought about it
like if it was me who scored
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that many goals,
like, how would you feel?
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You know, because sometimes
I score a goal.
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I scored only one hattrick
in my career and I was, like,
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I couldn't sleep for two days!
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00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,720
But he must have felt this
every game he plays.
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There doesn't seem too much
of an ego with him.
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I remember being at a Barcelona game
once, sort of backstage,
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and he walked past with
all the other Barcelona players
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and it was almost like
a sort of school trip,
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with Xavi and Iniesta,
but he just didn't,
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he wasn't leading things,
just seemed part of the team.
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Many of our superstars,
they're much bigger personalities
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off the pitch as well.
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He's not, he's the opposite.
He keeps himself to himself.
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So, he's a little bit of an enigma
in that sense.
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I do remember interviewing him
in Barcelona once
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and after the interview,
I was waiting in the car park
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and there were loads of tourists
going to the museum and the shop
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and people milling about.
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And there was a guy that worked
at the stadium chatting
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to a younger guy who was leaning
against the car, eating an apple.
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And it took me quite a while
to realise
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that the younger guy was Messi.
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You know, nobody noticed
he was there.
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I don't know what that is,
but I know that other players,
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even of that same Barcelona team,
would have garnered more attention
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in a public space like that.
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00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,760
His wife is his childhood
sweetheart.
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There's nothing wrong with that.
That's fine. That's great.
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But there's a sense that a lot
of things in his life are exactly
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the same now as they were
when he was sort of 15, 16.
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And I guess, you know, his lifestyle
hasn't changed that much.
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Turns up to training.
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Do your training,
do your fitness work.
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Go home, play a bit of PlayStation.
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There's something about him
that just makes him not stand out...
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..unless he's on the pitch.
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2014 World Cup. Millions of
Argentina descend on Brazil.
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The teams play well.
Leo play very, very well.
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That's what they came for, by train,
plane and automobile.
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00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,080
50,000 Argentines have found
their way to Rio
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and Lionel Messi
finally rewards them.
492
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,240
We get to the final
with a lot of hope.
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They all expect
Leo to win and do everything.
494
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,600
At some point, it was so much
pressure on Leo.
495
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,080
He's not a person,
he doesn't like to talk too much.
496
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,360
He said a few words
before the game against Germany.
497
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,760
As a leader, you don't need to speak
all the time.
498
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,280
Sometimes you have leaders
in the team that they probably
499
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,520
don't speak too much.
500
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,160
But then in the right moment
to talk to someone is the moment
501
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to say something and
everyone listen.
502
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,480
Guys, we're in the World Cup final.
503
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Whatever happen today,
if we win, we lose,
504
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,200
just let enjoy the game and,
you know, that coming from Leo,
505
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,680
that he's been in Champions League
final,
506
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,880
he's one of the greatest players
in the world,
507
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,080
but he knew that that day
and that game was special.
508
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,640
It was a dream for him, being in
the World Cup final as well.
509
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,360
The difference is, it's big,
winning or losing the World Cup.
510
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,400
Because if you win, you can say
for the rest of your lives,
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I'm a World Cup champion.
512
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400
The flag has stayed down
this time...
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Messi's missed.
514
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,960
With the crowd just waiting to roar.
515
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,720
If you lose, it's like, how long
is it going to take again
516
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,760
to be in a World Cup final? So...
517
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,040
..that's why that day is, like...
518
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,560
Shurrle. Working it in.
519
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,360
Chance for Gotze!
520
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,640
Mario Gotze scores for Germany!
521
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,000
Germany are champions of the world.
522
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,160
After the game was, like...
523
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It was terrible.
524
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,640
We were all crying like babies
because, you know,
525
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,960
it was very close.
526
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Still hurting.
527
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,280
There's the extraordinary image
at the end of that game when Messi
528
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680
is presented with the
Player of the Tournament award
529
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,720
and he looks totally devastated.
530
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,320
You know, he's trying to be polite,
but his face is saying,
531
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,800
I just want to get out of here.
532
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,640
When you lost a World Cup final...
533
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,920
..you don't need to say anything.
534
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,040
A few pictures of Leo
looking at the World Cup.
535
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,120
A tough one to take.
536
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:30,480
You want to see the best player
of the modern age
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00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,280
having a great tournament
in the greatest tournament.
538
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,800
Shortly afterwards,
the mood changed.
539
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,600
There was this extraordinary demand
from Argentina
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that because he performed
so fantastically with Barcelona,
541
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,000
he somehow had decided not
to perform that well with Argentina.
542
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,440
Although Messi still speaks
with an Argentinian accent,
543
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,280
he eats Argentinian food, although
he watches Argentinian films,
544
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,680
listens to Argentinian music,
545
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,400
there's still a sense in Argentina
he's a bit European.
546
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,640
I remember being in Santa Fe
and the bloke reading out the teams
547
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,840
for the game said,
548
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,120
wearing the ten, the greatest
in the world, Lionel Messi -
549
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,760
sort of half hearted applause -
550
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,080
and wearing the 11,
the player of the people,
551
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,200
el jugador del pueblo, Carlos Tevez,
and everybody goes berserk
552
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,560
because Tevez was seen as being
more truly Argentinian.
553
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,960
There's no sense that his genius
has been hard wrought.
554
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,320
There's no sense of
any kind of suffering.
555
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,040
And I think there's a feeling, not
just in Argentina, but that geniuses
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should somehow suffer
for their greatness.
557
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,600
And Maradona, that was front
and centre, whereas Messi,
558
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,800
and it's ridiculous to criticise
somebody for this,
559
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,480
it's just been season after season
after season of relentless
560
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,400
excellence, and particularly
for somebody who's never played
561
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,920
league football in Argentina,
that creates that sense of distance.
562
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,520
I think 2016 was the big change.
563
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,520
The Copa America is the Euros
of South America.
564
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,040
To get to the final is very hard.
There's no easy games.
565
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,280
So, in 2015, Argentina would play
Chile in the final.
566
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Drew 0-0, lost on penalties.
567
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Same thing happens in 2016
in the US,
568
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in the Copa America Centenario.
569
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,680
It is Messi who misses the penalty.
570
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PORTUGUESE COMMENTARY
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We lost three finals,
three years in a row.
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So, that's where the pressure
started to build.
573
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:42,560
He looked visibly like someone
who just can't take it any more.
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00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:49,000
That was a very difficult moment
for us.
575
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,840
That was the third final
that we lost in a row.
576
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So, we were very, very sad.
577
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I cried that day. You know, it broke
my heart, you know.
578
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You know, he burst into tears
in the middle of the pitch.
579
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I said, you know, how can we,
how can we come to this, you know?
580
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,840
Here he comes.
581
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Very surprised, no,
because our capitano, our leader...
582
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,320
..was going to leave the team,
was very difficult.
583
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:01,280
What that miss did was
to humanise him.
584
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,000
Any doubts people in Argentina had
about how much he cared
585
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,840
disappeared at that moment.
586
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,040
His tears and his obvious anguish,
that's when it changes.
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00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,440
And suddenly there's
this desperation of
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we've got to get Messi
to winning something.
589
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,360
People were writing odes, saying,
590
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,040
"I love you just the way you are.
I don't need a cup."
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00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,760
On the underground, these messages,
"Lionel, please come back."
592
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,560
And everyone pleaded to the point
that eventually the entire football
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association rebuilt itself, hired
managers that would make sure
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he was comfortable and he returned.
595
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:36,800
Our national colours mean a lot
to us.
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He would not have wanted to stay
in history like he gave up.
597
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,960
And he's not a quitter.
598
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,000
First time European champions...
599
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,160
..kings of Europe..
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..are Portugal.
601
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Messi didn't win it for Argentina
while his nemesis, Ronaldo,
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wins the Euros and is
in the top of the world.
603
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,360
When everything calms down and sees
that Ronaldo keeps succeeding,
604
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he cannot deny that
that rivalry makes him better.
605
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,720
Ronaldo, Messi, were actually
in the same league,
606
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fighting for the same titles,
including the individual ones.
607
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I think one of the Ballon d'Ors
that Ronaldo won,
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something turned in his stomach
and thought,
609
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it's going to be me next year.
610
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Just look at the stats.
611
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There'll be a couple of goals
from Ronaldo,
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Messi will score three.
613
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,080
They will be three from Messi,
614
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,240
Ronaldo will score
another hat-trick.
615
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:30,720
As they become older and
start having kids,
616
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one thing that happens
is that they recognise
617
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is that their journey
was very similar.
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00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Both of them had to leave home
at 12, 13.
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00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,440
Both of them had to beat
a lot of obstacles.
620
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,640
In the case of Ronaldo, bullying
and jokes about his accent,
621
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,840
about his skin, about what,
his looks, and in the case of Messi,
622
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,960
he had to battle
his chronic shyness
623
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,920
to actually have a little bit
of a presence off the pitch.
624
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,920
Now, there is no friendship,
but what there is is an admission
625
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,600
or recognition of admiration
of one to another.
626
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,200
Mbappe...
627
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,080
Mbappe!
628
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,760
It is France who've won through
to the World Cup quarterfinals.
629
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,280
How could it possibly be that player
that good could go
630
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,280
through his entire career
and not win a senior trophy?
631
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,640
You know, this is somebody
who's given so much to the game,
632
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,680
who's been so brilliant for so long,
633
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,800
and you sort of feel
football sort of owes him one.
634
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,680
Suddenly we were back in Brazil,
a few years back
635
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,160
after the disappointment of the
World Cup, and this was even nicer
636
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,120
because at the Maracana
it was not the Germans, Brazil.
637
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,200
Like it was meant to happen,
you know?
638
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,800
Before, everyone expecting Messi
to do everything, to get the ball,
639
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dribble four or five players
and score into the top corner.
640
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,080
And I think we understood, this
young team, how to play for him.
641
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,880
It was, like, guys,
it was meant to be.
642
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,720
We were supposed to play
in Argentina.
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00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:56,800
They change last minute.
644
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,760
Back in Brazil. We've been 40 days
away from our families.
645
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,880
And he said something about me
that obviously I will never forget.
646
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,840
He said, "Emi saw his daughter born
on FaceTime, you know.
647
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,120
"He couldn't even give her a cuddle.
648
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,160
"So, let's do it for him."
649
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,240
I had butterflies on my tummy
when he was saying that
650
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,040
and he nearly made me cry
just before the game started.
651
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,320
Argentina lead, thanks to a moment
of magic from Angel Di Maria!
652
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,560
Everyone ran to Leo...
653
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,360
..to say, "We won it."
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00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,320
Everybody were really happy for him.
655
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,840
I hugged him so hard and said,
"We did it."
656
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,880
You know, I was crying.
I'm a very emotional guy.
657
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,160
I had to grab him in the air,
you know, like, here,
658
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,760
you know, come here.
659
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,400
Like my little, like my boy,
Santi, you know, like...
660
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I love the guy, man.
661
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,920
He won everything - Ballon d'Or,
Champions Leagues,
662
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,600
and he hugged that cup
like he was the baby.
663
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,640
He left all the trophies outside
to win this one.
664
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,000
You've got to take it in
665
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,960
before this guy leaves the pitch
for the last time.
666
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,400
No-one is like Leo Messi.
667
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,800
It's impossible to arrive
to that level.
668
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,000
It's impossible.
669
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,520
That's the legacy,
because if he has done it,
670
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,160
somebody else will do it
at some point.
671
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,560
It's possible.
672
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,320
But I can tell you that right now,
it feels impossible.
673
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I don't think we will ever see
someone like him again.
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00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,080
At least not in my time.
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