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[ambient traffic noise]
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[train rumbles]
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♪
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CHRIS MOTEN:
I know what I want,
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and I know what I wanna be.
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♪
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It is a little tough
having to perform with celebrity artists.
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I've played for--
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I've toured with
over a hundred celebrity artists.
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It's fun, you know what I'm saying?
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I love being on the road, I love touring,
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I love seeing different cities.
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When I first started traveling,
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I used to get caught up in the hype
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of being with the artist,
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kinda piggybacking off of what they had.
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I had to realize that that wasn't mine.
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You should definitely be
trying to find something
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that is your own.
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Y'all don't wanna be 50 years old
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trying to play on the road
with Justin Bieber or somebody.
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It's not gonna work.
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♪
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The exposure that we gain from that,
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doesn't amount to the gift
that God gave me and my destiny.
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[cassette deck clicks]
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[sound warbling]
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♪ eerie music playing ♪
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[whooshes]
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[warbling continues]
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♪
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♪ upbeat hip-hop music playing ♪
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♪ Yeah, yeah... ♪
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PERSON 1:
Atlanta is still the Mecca of the south.
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PERSON 2:
We come from a place
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where we do what we want,
how we want, and when we want.
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♪ slow trombone music playing ♪
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♪
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Atlanta is a city,
but Atlanta is country at the same time.
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There's a lot of confidence
that comes from the culture of the city.
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We're defiant, we're disruptive--
[clipper buzzing]
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[customer chuckles]
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T.I.:
We're passionate.
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And for the city to be thriving
right now on every front,
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from music, to films, to art,
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and all aspects of the culture, it's good.
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You know what I'm saying?
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We're still here having fun.
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♪
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Atlanta is, it's just where it is.
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Everyone's trying to get here.
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[motorbike rumbles]
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For us to be a region
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to where there's no, like,
real, like, major record labels here
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like in LA or New York,
for us to move like this,
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we grindin'.
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You mean you ain't heard of Ludacris?
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You ain't heard of OutKast?
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TLC, Pretty Mob, Toni Braxton, Usher.
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PERSON 3:
Like, they created the sound here.
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I feel like every city duplicates us.
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It's-it's so much great music
coming out of Atlanta.
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It's really not a sound
that is specific to just one genre.
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It's a DIY market
in the sense of building music
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in their homes, but it's great music.
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You make a room of people
moving Atlanta,
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that means you can move the world.
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CHRIS:
Everybody has their own idea
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of how they want to contribute
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their music to the world.
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That's crazy.
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This is just mine.
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Trap Jazz is a movement.
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Trap Jazz is a sound.
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And more importantly, Trap Jazz is a band
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of a lot of friends and brothers
that I started with
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from the beginning.
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Started first with Devon "Stixx" Taylor
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and then adding on Cassius Jay
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as the world-renowned producer.
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We bridge the gap
between jazz and hip-hop.
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The three of us
along with a lot of friends and family
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is a collective as the band, Trap Jazz.
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♪
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[inaudible dialogue]
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It always come back to 3000
at the source of it.
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The south got somethin' to say,
that's all I got to say.
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DJ TOOMP:
That sparked somethin'.
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♪
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♪ synthesizer music playing ♪
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♪
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CHRIS:
...some new stuff.
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[keys clack]
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♪ high-pitched jazz music playing ♪
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CHRIS: Trap Jazz is exactly
what you think it is when you say it.
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It's trap, and then there's jazz.
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Eclectic improvisation
mixed with, like, street gutter sounds.
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♪ upbeat jazz music
playing on laptop ♪
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♪
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♪ music stops ♪
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I was listening to "A" Train
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'cause I wanna trap that out.
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'Cause that's-- basically it's trap jazz,
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there's a trap beat
and there's some jazz music.
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Real jazz, not like
a form of jazz, you know?
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So that makes a difference.
[clicks touchpad]
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That's gonna be tough,
'cause they swingin'
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and they doin' a different beat
than what we do nowadays.
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They're like--
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♪ scatting ♪
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I can move it around,
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I just gotta find
the right beat to go with it.
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♪ upbeat music plays ♪
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♪ slow upbeat music plays ♪
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[clicks touchpad]
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♪ classical jazz music
playing on laptop ♪
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♪
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♪ fast-paced electronic beats
join classical jazz ♪
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It's too fast.
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[keyboard clacking]
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♪ classical jazz music playing ♪
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♪
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♪ electronic beats join classical jazz ♪
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♪
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♪ music grows louder ♪
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Ah! It's already, like, exciting me.
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♪
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CASSIUS JAY: I just remember
Chris coming up with the whole idea.
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And I ain't even have a clue
how we was finna do this.
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All I knew was I know how to make beats.
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♪ hip-hop music playing ♪
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CHRIS:
No more than a week after,
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I felt like Trap Jazz
was something that I could do.
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I called Cassius.
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I knew it was gonna be right in line
with the sound that Atlanta loves.
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Because if you don't know
Cassius, you're losing,
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like, probably gonna be
the next king of trap.
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- [camera shutters clicking]
- ♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪
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[inaudible dialogue]
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I've produced
for a lot of well-known artists
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like Future and Migos,
Bankroll Fresh, Young Thug.
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CHRIS: And you got Cassius
coming up killing everything.
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He's beyond his years
in music especially.
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Like, most kids don't dig that deep.
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He a real church musician
that can play like, you know, like a fool.
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JAZZE PHA: And then when you
hear him play, you'd be like,
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"This dude gotta be
in his 40s or somethin'."
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You know what I'm saying?
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'Cause he's just--
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His musical palette
is just, you know, magnifique
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'cause he's just--
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It's somethin' special.
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CHRIS:
I called Cassius and I was like,
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"Bro, like, I need some beats.
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"I just need whatever
you would give to, you know,
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"Future, Young Thug, Gucci, like,
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"whatever you would give to them,
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"give that to me.
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Like, give me, like, five of 'em."
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He's like,
"Well, just send me all your wack beats,
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"beats that you know
you ain't gonna give to nobody.
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Just send it to me."
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He's like, "I promise you
I'll make somethin' up."
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CHRIS:
When I got 'em, I just, like, ripped 'em
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in, like, two weeks and I sent 'em back.
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CASSIUS:
I was fuckin' amazed.
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I was like, "How in the hell
did you come up with that?"
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Like, how?
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I didn't even believe he did it.
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I was like, "I'm finna come over to
your house and see this shit."
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It automatically feel like
it's about to turn up.
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Like, okay, we already--
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They almost vibing to it.
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Females will be like, you know, "Okay.
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We don't hear no words yet,"
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but then we get here--
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♪ hip-hop beats playing ♪
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♪ classical trumpet note
joins hip-hop beats ♪
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And immediately, even you,
you just changed your vibe,
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because it's like...
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♪ classical trumpet note plays ♪
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...now you trying to follow
what this is saying,
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but this is already
saying something to you.
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What is the music saying?
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♪ gentle peppy music playing ♪
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♪
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First song that h-he gave me,
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I took it to Jazze Pha
and Jazze went crazy.
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Like, "This is the new shit,
this is the next shit."
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He was like,
"This what you did over his beats?
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This what you did?"
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I was like, "Yeah, it just--
that's my idea of trap jazz."
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♪ fast-paced drumbeating ♪
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♪
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DEVON "STIXX" TAYLOR:
Ah!
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♪
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I played for some pretty cool artists.
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Zendaya,
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Mary J. Blige, Usher, Jagged Edge,
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Backstreet, Monica, Justin Bieber.
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Shout out to JB, man, I appreciate it.
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Love you, boy.
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[crowd cheering]
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♪
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- How are you? Good to see you.
- You look nice.
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STIXX:
Chris and Cassius linked up,
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they did some stuff.
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Chris was just like,
"Man, you need to play drums on it.
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He's like, "Little bro,
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"we really need to start a band.
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"Playing behind artists and stuff is cool,
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but don't you think it'll be cooler
if, like, we played our own shit?"
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♪
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CHRIS:
Dev is drummin'.
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I need that, because in Trap Jazz
he had this sound.
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When he played
everybody in the room was just like--
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Up until that point,
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I hadn't seen no other musician
make people move like that.
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TERRACE MARTIN:
Trap is a language.
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They're playing that at a very high level.
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It's not just, "I could do it."
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So I'm just like, "No, let's pract--
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"Let's get it sounding. Let's--
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"Let's put this Black music
on one of the highest pedestals we can."
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♪ playing classical music ♪
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CASSIUS:
Chris, Chris is a monster.
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Chris is a hell of a musician.
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STIXX:
Man, his sound is like no other.
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The way he mixes certain sounds
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and the way he plays certain things, and--
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Even just his arrangements.
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His mind is amazing, man.
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God really, really blessed him.
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♪ piano music playing ♪
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♪
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J-FLY:
Chris was actually a prodigy.
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Like, he got awards as a jazz pianist.
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He has natural talent, a creative ear,
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but he also has the theory.
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Those elements in one human body,
like, oh, my God.
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We gotta get the music out there
to get people used to trap jazz.
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Then after that, we just try to
get our stuff played on the radio, and--
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But what would we play it as?
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'Cause it won't fit in smooth jazz,
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it won't fit in jazz fusion,
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it won't fit in standard jazz.
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CASSIUS: Chris was like,
"Man, I'm finna try this trap jazz.
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I can't wait to tour
because I know it's gonna be big."
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I was like, "Well, listen."
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I was like, "You do the work,
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"here go the beats.
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"I'll pay for the sessions,
I'll get it mixed.
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"I'll pay for the musicians,
I'll do the financial part.
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You just do the music part."
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STIXX:
Me, him and Cassius,
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we booked, like, three days
at Glow in the Dark Studios.
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He already had
like a lot of songs already,
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you know, tracked out and mapped out.
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But, you know, he gave me creative control
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to put my own drum parts
and everything on it.
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So, we came up with everything together,
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in one studio session.
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CHRIS: The main reason
I'm doing it is for musicians.
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It's definitely important to me
to leave somethin' behind.
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My mom bought me this $500 little Yamaha,
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and I started making beats.
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And I would take it
to school and make beats
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and plug 'em to the speaker in the room.
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I was literally, like, making trap beats.
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That, you know, mixed with jazz,
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I think that really
probably was the beginning
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of, you know, what we call Trap Jazz.
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♪
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♪ mellow music playing ♪
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[indistinct conversations]
[laughter]
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♪
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CASSIUS' BROTHER:
Get him, grandmama.
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He cussin'.
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You know better,
you don't talk like that.
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He's been raised in the church.
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He know right from wrong.
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CASSIUS:
Lemme see you do it.
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CASSIUS' BROTHER:
Let me see you, Nate.
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Hey. Come on, Nate.
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CASSIUS:
Get it! Get it! Get it!
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Outta all my friends,
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I'm like the big dog,
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and they follow me
because I'm their big brother.
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I was the one out, out the whole group,
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out of Devon and Chris decided,
you know what?
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I don't wanna just be
a church musician no more.
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I wanna be a producer.
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♪
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Right now, today,
it's Father's Day, it's my day.
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And these are my beautiful kids.
We're hanging out.
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Having kids kinda
slowed me all the way down.
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Even though I was in church and stuff,
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it slowed me down when I had kids
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because it gave me somethin' to live for.
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Gotta little girlfriend?
CASSIUS' SON: No.
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CASSIUS:
So you gonna leave your shirt off?
303
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And show your muscles?
CASSIUS' SON: Yeah.
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You got muscles?
CASSIUS' SON: No.
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FAMILY MEMBER:
Let's see your muscles.
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Let's see your muscles.
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Show your muscles.
Come on, turn around, show your muscles.
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- FAMILY MEMBER: Come on, don't be shy.
- Show your muscles.
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Hey!
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The stuff I learned
from my dad, I put it in my kids.
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My daddy the reason why I'm a musician.
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♪
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[indistinct chatter]
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CASSIUS' MOM:
This is the rock of the family.
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My husband was in the ministry
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and they needed music in the church.
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So my husband,
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he let my boys pick out the instrument
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that they wouldn't mind playing.
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♪
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CASSIUS:
Like, drums, everybody could play drums.
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Bass wasn't cool enough.
323
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I-I feel like bass players
real laid back,
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and I ain't got no laid backs, period.
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Like, I'm real hype.
326
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So I was like,
I wanna play the piano or organ.
327
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And organ was
the first instrument I sit on.
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CASSIUS' MOM:
Everybody looked up to his dad, too,
329
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would love to hear him sing and preach.
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CASSIUS:
I'm just like my daddy. I'm same person.
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Everybody say I act like him,
I dress like him.
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My dad was real flashy.
333
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CASSIUS' MOM:
My husband died suddenly.
334
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He wasn't sick, no one could believe it.
335
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I was thinking I was going
to the doctor to be with him,
336
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but when I got there,
they told me that he had passed.
337
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He was trying to get out
the car to ask for help,
338
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but he fell out the car, passed away.
339
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♪
340
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And they told us he had
had a massive heart attack.
341
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We thought the world was over.
342
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Me and my brother, we was like,
"What in the world?"
343
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Like, where do we go next?
344
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Like, what's the next step?
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♪
346
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If it wasn't for my daddy,
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I wouldn't be where I'm at right now
348
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because my dad the one who put the whole
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music into us, you know?
350
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If it weren't for my dad,
I would not be a musician,
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first of all.
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I wouldn't be a producer.
353
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My daddy the one who told me
I was gonna do this.
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He prophesied it.
355
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Every hit record I get on the radio,
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I come up here and play it for my dad.
357
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Point blank period.
358
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I don't know if he could
hear it or not, but I play it.
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Ain't nobody ain't gonna
never had to struggle
360
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the way he had to do.
361
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♪
362
00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:33,564
[voice breaking]
Like not one of us.
363
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♪ somber music playing ♪
364
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♪
365
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CASSIUS' MOM: His dad had told me
an hour before he passed
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that Josh would make it.
367
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Josh was gonna make it.
368
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[Cassius sniffles]
369
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[singing] ♪ Amazing ♪
370
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♪ Grace ♪
371
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♪ How sweet the sound ♪
372
00:14:05,971 --> 00:14:09,349
♪ That saved ♪
373
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♪ A wretch like me ♪
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♪ I once ♪
375
00:14:19,735 --> 00:14:22,863
♪ Was lost ♪
376
00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:26,825
♪ But now ♪
377
00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:29,786
♪ I'm found ♪
378
00:14:30,204 --> 00:14:33,332
♪ Was blind ♪
379
00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:39,796
♪ But now I see ♪
380
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♪ drums music playing ♪
381
00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:44,885
[indistinct chatter]
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00:14:44,885 --> 00:14:47,846
One, two!
PASTOR TAYLOR [on microphone]: Dr. Jesus
make everything alright.
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♪
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I don't care what you're going through
385
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but your problem is nothing.
386
00:14:52,184 --> 00:14:54,937
Jesus will make everything alright.
387
00:14:54,937 --> 00:14:58,315
Do I have anybody in this house,
who don't mind--
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STIXX:
My dad got called into the ministry.
389
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And so I started playing
in church in 2003.
390
00:15:04,154 --> 00:15:06,490
I think I was around, like, nine or ten.
391
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That opened up the door for me to do
everything that I'm doing now.
392
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♪
393
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PASTOR TAYLOR:
Sing it one more time, folks!
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Come on now. Let's go.
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[singing] ♪ Oh, Dr. Jesus ♪
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♪ Dr. Jesus ♪
397
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♪ He said ♪
398
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♪ Said he would ♪
399
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[laughter]
400
00:15:20,212 --> 00:15:22,256
♪ indistinct singing ♪
401
00:15:22,256 --> 00:15:23,757
♪
402
00:15:23,757 --> 00:15:26,468
♪ Dr. Jesus ♪
403
00:15:26,468 --> 00:15:27,511
♪ He said ♪
404
00:15:27,511 --> 00:15:28,762
♪ Said he would ♪
405
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STIXX:
That's-that's where I got my start.
406
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You know, that's where I was able to do
407
00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:35,727
whatever I pretty much
put my heart to.
408
00:15:35,727 --> 00:15:38,063
You know, in church
there's not really no rules.
409
00:15:38,063 --> 00:15:41,692
Like, that's when
you're really able to play freely,
410
00:15:41,692 --> 00:15:42,734
and, like, open yourself.
411
00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:43,777
It's kinda like jazz,
412
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like, it's not structured.
413
00:15:45,654 --> 00:15:48,532
♪ indistinct singing ♪
414
00:15:48,532 --> 00:15:51,076
♪
415
00:15:51,076 --> 00:15:53,203
STIXX: 'Cause even with church,
you still gotta go to rehearsal.
416
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You still gotta learn the music.
417
00:15:54,538 --> 00:15:56,957
It's still a gig, it's still work
at the end of the day.
418
00:15:56,957 --> 00:15:58,000
♪ Say it again ♪
419
00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,459
[inaudible dialogue]
420
00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:00,669
♪ indistinct singing ♪
421
00:16:00,669 --> 00:16:08,218
♪
422
00:16:08,218 --> 00:16:12,055
♪ He's gonna make everything alright ♪
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00:16:12,055 --> 00:16:14,266
PASTOR TAYLOR [on microphone]: Now,
come on, give God your prayer. Repent.
424
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Praise to Him!
425
00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:16,685
Whoo!
426
00:16:17,311 --> 00:16:18,395
♪
427
00:16:18,395 --> 00:16:21,356
And, you may be seated
in the presence of the Lord. Amen.
428
00:16:21,356 --> 00:16:23,775
God bless you all on this day.
429
00:16:23,775 --> 00:16:24,985
[applause]
PASTOR TAYLOR: Thank you, thank you.
430
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I wanna say Happy Father's Day.
431
00:16:26,361 --> 00:16:27,821
All the men stand up.
432
00:16:27,821 --> 00:16:28,739
All the men.
433
00:16:28,739 --> 00:16:30,866
All the men stand up. Amen.
[cheers and exclaims]
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PASTOR TAYLOR: We salute the men today
on Father's Day. Amen.
435
00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:36,163
Ladies, come on, make some noise.
436
00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:38,582
Make some noise. Real loud, ladies.
Scream in here.
437
00:16:38,582 --> 00:16:39,458
[women cheering]
438
00:16:39,458 --> 00:16:41,502
PASTOR TAYLOR:
Amen, like it's your favorite entertainer,
439
00:16:41,502 --> 00:16:43,879
scream in here like it's Luther Vandross,
440
00:16:43,879 --> 00:16:46,507
or whoever it is that you might listen to.
441
00:16:46,507 --> 00:16:48,467
Scream and cheer these men.
442
00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:49,927
[screaming and cheering]
443
00:16:50,469 --> 00:16:51,845
All praise. Amen.
444
00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:52,721
Thank you, guys.
445
00:16:52,721 --> 00:16:54,431
Thank you all. Thank you all so much.
446
00:16:54,431 --> 00:16:56,266
Amen. Amen. Amen.
447
00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:58,143
♪
448
00:16:58,143 --> 00:17:00,729
DEACON SCOTT WILLIAMS:
I started noticing Devon's talent
449
00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:02,940
when I used to play with his father.
450
00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:04,274
I went to his father and told him,
451
00:17:04,274 --> 00:17:07,110
"Hey, man, you know,
I like playing the drums.
452
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:08,195
"I really do, I love 'em.
453
00:17:08,946 --> 00:17:11,240
But your son is anointed
to play the drums."
454
00:17:11,698 --> 00:17:13,116
[indistinct chatter]
455
00:17:13,116 --> 00:17:14,034
And they had noticed, you know.
456
00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:16,411
Whenever he's playin', he's smilin'.
457
00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:18,455
You know what I'm saying?
You can see him with that smile.
458
00:17:18,455 --> 00:17:22,709
I believe, uh, you will not
catch him not smilin'
459
00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:25,420
while he's playing the drums,
and, uh, because he loves it.
460
00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:28,841
First gig was with my parents,
was with my father,
461
00:17:28,841 --> 00:17:29,925
with his group.
462
00:17:29,925 --> 00:17:32,302
He had a gospel group
and it was called Interfaith.
463
00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:34,680
♪ indistinct singing ♪
464
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,140
As Devon was comin' up, I was in groups,
465
00:17:38,392 --> 00:17:41,979
and, uh, Devon was there
watching our drummer, Scott.
466
00:17:41,979 --> 00:17:43,105
And he would sit right there,
467
00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:44,439
right there up on Scott,
468
00:17:44,439 --> 00:17:46,191
right there looking dead at the drums.
469
00:17:46,191 --> 00:17:47,442
And Scott had to say,
470
00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:48,819
"Back up, back up a little bit, Devon.
471
00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:50,153
Back up a little bit." [laughs]
472
00:17:52,155 --> 00:17:55,784
DEACON SCOTT: There was a song
that Interfaith used to do
473
00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:58,120
that gives the drummer
special little part in it
474
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where he can do his thing.
475
00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:01,915
PASTOR TAYLOR: He had to be
about eight or nine years old.
476
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,042
He just was like,
"Man, you're not ready yet, son."
477
00:18:04,042 --> 00:18:05,460
[all laughing]
478
00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:06,295
He'd say-- He said,
479
00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:07,588
"Dad gonna let you play."
FAMILY MEMBER: Yep!
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DEACON SCOTT:
His father finally gave him a chance.
481
00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:12,342
He said, "Okay, okay, we gonna,
we gonna put this in the routine."
482
00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:13,886
♪
483
00:18:13,886 --> 00:18:15,304
We made up this a little skit.
484
00:18:15,304 --> 00:18:17,973
Like, Scott, you just gonna
act like you just tired,
485
00:18:17,973 --> 00:18:20,267
you-you done, you tired playin' the drum.
486
00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:22,519
And, uh, we was doing a concert.
487
00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:23,979
Devon right there, right next to me,
488
00:18:23,979 --> 00:18:25,189
like he always would be.
489
00:18:25,189 --> 00:18:27,649
And I stood up
from the drums and I told him,
490
00:18:27,649 --> 00:18:29,735
"I can't do this no more, man,
I'm-I'm tired."
491
00:18:29,735 --> 00:18:31,695
He said, "Man, I-I need, I need a drummer.
492
00:18:31,695 --> 00:18:34,198
Any drummers in the house?"
493
00:18:34,198 --> 00:18:36,033
And lo and behold,
little Devon raised his hand.
494
00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:37,367
"I can do it, Dad, I can do it."
495
00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:40,120
Gets on the drum set
and get to the part where
496
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the drummer gets his solo.
497
00:18:41,455 --> 00:18:46,126
And I'm talkin' about he had
the whole house amazed.
498
00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:49,004
I would follow him everywhere
and then I would just play that one song.
499
00:18:49,004 --> 00:18:53,050
And that was like my first gig ever,
you know, playing with my dad.
500
00:18:53,050 --> 00:18:55,344
His father went
halfway around the world.
501
00:18:55,344 --> 00:18:57,304
Devon is gone all the way
around the world.
502
00:18:57,304 --> 00:19:00,182
♪ fast-paced drum music playing ♪
503
00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:03,435
♪
504
00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:05,812
CASSIUS:
When I heard Devon, I was like,
505
00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:08,607
"Whoa," like, I want you
to be my friend forever.
506
00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:10,317
And I stuck with him.
507
00:19:10,317 --> 00:19:11,693
I never would let him get away from me.
508
00:19:11,693 --> 00:19:14,988
♪ upbeat drum music playing ♪
509
00:19:14,988 --> 00:19:16,698
STIXX:
He was playing organ for us.
510
00:19:16,698 --> 00:19:19,576
I was around, like, 13 or 14 at the time.
511
00:19:20,452 --> 00:19:22,913
And Cassius, he-he used
to always tell me like,
512
00:19:22,913 --> 00:19:25,832
"Bro, you are killing, bro."
513
00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,459
Like, you know I was a little kid,
514
00:19:27,459 --> 00:19:30,546
like, "Thank you, man,"
all hyped, just smilin'.
515
00:19:30,546 --> 00:19:32,506
And then he told me, he was like,
516
00:19:32,506 --> 00:19:34,633
"Man, playing the church is cool,
517
00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:37,803
"but, bro, you can go
so much further with, with your gift,
518
00:19:37,803 --> 00:19:38,971
with what you're doing."
519
00:19:38,971 --> 00:19:40,556
♪
520
00:19:40,556 --> 00:19:43,016
CASSIUS: No matter how big we got,
he called me Big Bro.
521
00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:44,726
"B-Big bro, what we doing today, Big Bro?
522
00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:45,727
Big bro, where are we going?"
523
00:19:45,727 --> 00:19:46,562
I just go pick him up.
524
00:19:47,521 --> 00:19:49,815
STIXX: I remember Cassius
used to come pick me up from school
525
00:19:49,815 --> 00:19:51,275
like, every other day.
526
00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:53,151
[chuckles]
I used to get in the car with him.
527
00:19:53,151 --> 00:19:54,528
We would ride to the studio,
528
00:19:54,528 --> 00:19:57,656
we'd be recording where he had me
doing like, gigs and stuff.
529
00:19:57,656 --> 00:19:59,658
He was just introducing me
to people around town.
530
00:19:59,658 --> 00:20:02,452
♪ upbeat drum music playing ♪
531
00:20:02,452 --> 00:20:05,247
♪
532
00:20:05,247 --> 00:20:08,750
CASSIUS: I introduced Stixx
to every drummer, every artist,
533
00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:10,127
'cause I knew he could outplay everybody.
534
00:20:10,127 --> 00:20:12,546
He was young and I was excited
535
00:20:12,546 --> 00:20:16,258
to see a young musician outplay
the oldest cats in the world.
536
00:20:16,258 --> 00:20:18,886
I'd take him over Chris' house
and little share with Chris.
537
00:20:18,886 --> 00:20:20,137
♪
538
00:20:20,137 --> 00:20:21,305
CHRIS:
Sometimes they'd come to my house.
539
00:20:21,305 --> 00:20:24,266
Everybody know I had this basement
where I had like two drum sets.
540
00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:28,020
I had a, a bass rig, a guitar rig,
five, six keyboards,
541
00:20:28,020 --> 00:20:29,062
all this stuff, you know.
542
00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:31,064
And everybody would
just come there and play.
543
00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:33,734
So a lot of times
Devon and him would come by,
544
00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:36,111
and then I realized
there's somethin' about this guy.
545
00:20:36,111 --> 00:20:37,571
Like, he had this sound,
546
00:20:37,571 --> 00:20:39,072
and every time he played a rap beat,
547
00:20:40,157 --> 00:20:41,783
everybody in the room would, like,
548
00:20:42,701 --> 00:20:44,077
they'd start movin'.
549
00:20:44,077 --> 00:20:45,871
And it was, like, you could be
a dope drummer
550
00:20:45,871 --> 00:20:48,248
but it's hard to make
everybody in the room
551
00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:49,666
move at the same time.
552
00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:50,959
♪
553
00:20:50,959 --> 00:20:53,837
I describe my sound as real aggressive.
554
00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:55,672
♪ fast-paced drumming ♪
555
00:20:55,672 --> 00:20:58,050
I like for people
to feel what I'm playing,
556
00:20:58,050 --> 00:20:59,468
to feel my energy.
557
00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:01,428
♪
558
00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:04,181
CHRIS: I don't think I ever wanna
do the Trap Jazz show without Devon
559
00:21:04,181 --> 00:21:06,558
because he just sounds
just like what we need.
560
00:21:06,558 --> 00:21:08,936
♪ fast-paced drum music playing ♪
561
00:21:08,936 --> 00:21:31,208
♪
562
00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:34,253
♪ bright piano music playing ♪
563
00:21:34,253 --> 00:21:37,965
♪
564
00:21:39,174 --> 00:23:05,385
♪
565
00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:08,138
♪ music ends softly ♪
566
00:23:08,889 --> 00:23:10,557
CHRIS:
That one's called Carrie Lee.
567
00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:12,768
My grandfather's first and middle.
568
00:23:12,768 --> 00:23:14,478
I've always liked that.
569
00:23:14,478 --> 00:23:16,230
The second melody, the--
570
00:23:16,605 --> 00:23:18,649
♪ slow piano music playing ♪
571
00:23:18,649 --> 00:23:21,568
♪
572
00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:25,072
It really makes me think,
like, about, like, the happy times.
573
00:23:25,072 --> 00:23:27,366
[laughter]
And some of the sad times, too.
574
00:23:27,366 --> 00:23:29,159
So, I like that song so far.
575
00:23:29,159 --> 00:23:30,077
I'm not even finished with it
576
00:23:30,077 --> 00:23:31,828
but it's still fun to play.
577
00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:34,873
[distant traffic noise]
578
00:23:37,626 --> 00:23:39,628
♪ organ music playing ♪
579
00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:40,587
CHRIS:
What up, bro man?
580
00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,047
CHRIS' DAD:
Hey, man, what's happening?
581
00:23:42,047 --> 00:23:43,006
CHRIS:
Good, how are you?
582
00:23:43,006 --> 00:23:44,424
CHRIS' DAD: Just got back in town?
CHRIS: I did.
583
00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:45,884
- Your phone work?
- Sometimes. Sometimes.
584
00:23:45,884 --> 00:23:47,344
- Aah.
- Sometimes it work, sometimes it don't.
585
00:23:47,344 --> 00:23:48,262
Sometimes that it don't.
586
00:23:48,262 --> 00:23:49,763
- CHRIS: Actually.
- Where you been?
587
00:23:50,389 --> 00:23:51,431
Uh, New York.
588
00:23:52,057 --> 00:23:52,891
How it go?
589
00:23:52,891 --> 00:23:54,768
Most of the time New York,
based outta New York,
590
00:23:54,768 --> 00:23:58,480
and then going
everywhere else outside of that.
591
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,314
It's been fun.
592
00:23:59,314 --> 00:24:02,150
You enjoy your Father's Day,
without me, your favorite?
593
00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:03,694
Uh, Yeah, right.
[Chris laughs]
594
00:24:04,987 --> 00:24:06,822
- You like it?
- I can do a lot with it, yeah.
595
00:24:07,614 --> 00:24:11,869
Got my pads, faders,
and, you know, we like all that stuff.
596
00:24:11,869 --> 00:24:13,036
- CHRIS' DAD: Yeah, yeah.
- So that's pretty cool.
597
00:24:13,036 --> 00:24:14,663
CHRIS' DAD:
That's the next generation, just--
598
00:24:14,663 --> 00:24:15,956
- I got, I got mine.
- You enjoying your new organ?
599
00:24:15,956 --> 00:24:16,999
Yeah, man, I love it.
600
00:24:16,999 --> 00:24:18,542
- I love it. I love it.
- Yeah, I think it's nice, too.
601
00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:19,835
Open it up a little bit.
602
00:24:19,835 --> 00:24:20,919
Lets see what's it sound like.
603
00:24:20,919 --> 00:24:21,879
Oh, it sounds good.
604
00:24:21,879 --> 00:24:22,838
CHRIS:
Open it up a little bit.
605
00:24:22,838 --> 00:24:23,672
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪
606
00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:24,506
Ay!
607
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:25,424
That's, uh--
608
00:24:25,424 --> 00:24:26,300
♪
609
00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:27,301
You don't feel nothing?
CHRIS: Amen.
610
00:24:27,301 --> 00:24:28,760
♪ plays notes ♪
611
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,053
- Oh, it's nice.
- Yes, Lord.
612
00:24:30,053 --> 00:24:32,139
♪ plays notes, tempo decreases ♪
613
00:24:32,139 --> 00:24:33,015
♪ plays note ♪
614
00:24:33,015 --> 00:24:33,849
- CHRIS' DAD: What we gonna play?
- Yeah, that's nice.
615
00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:35,184
You get yours over,
we'll play something together.
616
00:24:35,184 --> 00:24:36,602
I just wanted
to hear it open up a little bit.
617
00:24:36,602 --> 00:24:37,811
- So I can learn something.
- That's the thing.
618
00:24:37,811 --> 00:24:38,979
- That's what make you go crazy.
- You can teach me something
619
00:24:38,979 --> 00:24:41,481
- before you go back on the road.
- That's that, ay-ya-ya!
620
00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:43,150
♪ soulful organ music plays ♪
621
00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:46,111
My dad, you know,
of course is an organist,
622
00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:48,405
very popular organist in the church.
623
00:24:48,405 --> 00:24:50,866
And my mother's a very popular singer.
624
00:24:50,866 --> 00:24:52,242
Know what I mean?
625
00:24:52,242 --> 00:24:54,494
CHRIS' DAD:
Our house was filled with music.
626
00:24:55,245 --> 00:24:56,580
Chris grew up with a Hammond organ
627
00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:57,623
in the living room.
628
00:24:57,623 --> 00:24:59,208
We were constantly in church
629
00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:01,710
because I was constantly playing
or his mother was singing.
630
00:25:01,710 --> 00:25:03,587
So he grew up in church.
631
00:25:03,587 --> 00:25:04,588
♪
632
00:25:04,588 --> 00:25:05,464
I can't do that.
633
00:25:05,464 --> 00:25:08,884
♪ playing lively music on keyboard ♪
634
00:25:08,884 --> 00:25:10,052
CHRIS:
Yeah, I remember that one.
635
00:25:10,052 --> 00:25:11,345
♪
636
00:25:11,345 --> 00:25:12,179
I remember that one.
637
00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:13,096
You remember that one?
638
00:25:13,096 --> 00:25:15,599
♪ fast-paced organ music playing ♪
639
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:17,309
♪
640
00:25:17,309 --> 00:25:18,185
Yeah.
641
00:25:18,185 --> 00:25:20,354
♪
642
00:25:20,354 --> 00:25:22,814
CHRIS' DAD:
He would always sit on the organ with me
643
00:25:22,814 --> 00:25:24,233
or sit on the drums.
644
00:25:24,233 --> 00:25:26,360
I bought both of my sons drumsticks,
645
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,569
sometime I think it was a mistake
646
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,488
because the furniture
turned out to be a drum.
647
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:31,615
CHRIS:
That was the first thing I did.
648
00:25:31,615 --> 00:25:34,826
And then out of nowhere
my grandfather [chuckles] was like,
649
00:25:34,826 --> 00:25:36,495
"You got enough drummers in the family.
650
00:25:36,495 --> 00:25:37,663
"Go-- Why don't you go play that?
651
00:25:37,663 --> 00:25:39,081
Why don't you go play piano?"
652
00:25:39,081 --> 00:25:41,416
And he literally forced me
to get on the piano.
653
00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:44,127
♪ peppy organ music playing ♪
654
00:25:44,127 --> 00:25:49,591
♪
655
00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:51,426
♪ piano solo ♪
656
00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:53,136
CHRIS' DAD:
Oh, I like that.
657
00:25:53,136 --> 00:25:54,930
CHRIS' MOM:
I remember going to his room
658
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:56,890
and he'd have the radio on,
659
00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:58,100
and he'd be listening to the radio
660
00:25:58,809 --> 00:26:00,519
and playing behind the radio.
661
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,146
So, when that started happening,
I just knew,
662
00:26:03,146 --> 00:26:04,606
you know, he had that connection.
663
00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:05,899
It was all God, you know.
664
00:26:05,899 --> 00:26:09,361
♪ peppy organ music playing ♪
665
00:26:09,361 --> 00:26:19,705
♪
666
00:26:19,705 --> 00:26:20,622
Ready?
667
00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:30,215
♪
668
00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:31,717
Ah!
CHRIS' DAD: You know I'm old.
669
00:26:31,717 --> 00:26:33,927
CHRIS:
You can play, man, you got it.
670
00:26:33,927 --> 00:26:34,761
Eh.
671
00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,555
CHRIS: I still need--
Got some stuff to learn I see, huh?
672
00:26:36,555 --> 00:26:38,348
CASSIUS:
Every piano player, every organist
673
00:26:38,348 --> 00:26:40,934
from Atlanta, Georgia
looked up to Chris' dad.
674
00:26:40,934 --> 00:26:43,854
I just happened to meet Chris at the time,
675
00:26:43,854 --> 00:26:45,230
and then after I met Chris,
676
00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:46,607
after I realized who his daddy was.
677
00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:49,234
His daddy was my daddy's best friend.
678
00:26:49,234 --> 00:26:51,403
So then we just started, like,
showing each other things.
679
00:26:51,403 --> 00:26:53,405
[Cassius laughs]
680
00:26:53,405 --> 00:26:55,657
CHRIS: I tried to start playing
more when he came up here.
681
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:57,326
[laughter]
CASSIUS: Ah.
682
00:26:57,326 --> 00:27:01,163
♪
683
00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:02,581
I look like my daddy, don't I?
684
00:27:02,581 --> 00:27:04,499
[laughter]
685
00:27:04,499 --> 00:27:06,460
CHRIS' DAD:
All of this look like your dad.
686
00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:07,586
[laughter]
687
00:27:07,586 --> 00:27:08,504
What's up, man?
688
00:27:08,504 --> 00:27:09,421
That's crazy, eh?
689
00:27:09,421 --> 00:27:10,547
CASSIUS: Listen.
CHRIS' DAD: Look at you.
690
00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:12,090
CASSIUS:
Just like all the producers
691
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:13,592
wanted to be like Zaytoven,
692
00:27:13,592 --> 00:27:16,553
all the musicians wanted to learn
693
00:27:16,553 --> 00:27:18,305
how to play the organ just like you.
694
00:27:18,305 --> 00:27:19,223
[laughter]
695
00:27:19,223 --> 00:27:21,141
CASSIUS:
Chris' daddy has a style in the church,
696
00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:22,267
we call it a COGIC style,
697
00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:23,519
the Church of God in Christ style.
698
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,854
It's like real, real, real churchy.
699
00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:27,898
CHRIS' DAD:
Josh is just like another son.
700
00:27:27,898 --> 00:27:31,068
I haven't seen him since he was a kid.
701
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:33,695
CHRIS:
I've always known Cassius.
702
00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:36,198
I known him as Josh,
like, I know that's his producer name.
703
00:27:36,198 --> 00:27:37,449
But this is-- I just know Josh.
704
00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:38,742
We grew up together.
705
00:27:38,742 --> 00:27:40,869
His father sang, like, praise and worship
706
00:27:40,869 --> 00:27:42,955
while my father played organ.
707
00:27:42,955 --> 00:27:44,122
This the first song you taught me.
708
00:27:44,122 --> 00:27:45,791
♪ slow organ music playing ♪
709
00:27:45,791 --> 00:27:49,878
♪
710
00:27:49,878 --> 00:27:51,255
Of course your chorus was--
711
00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:52,798
♪ fast-paced organ music playing ♪
712
00:27:52,798 --> 00:27:55,384
[laughter]
713
00:27:55,801 --> 00:27:57,427
CASSIUS:
Chris' dad, through my whole family,
714
00:27:57,427 --> 00:28:00,430
my mama, my grandma, all my aunties,
715
00:28:00,430 --> 00:28:02,266
if it wasn't for him
being friends with my dad,
716
00:28:02,266 --> 00:28:03,642
I would not know Chris Moten.
717
00:28:03,642 --> 00:28:04,893
[inaudible dialogue]
718
00:28:04,893 --> 00:28:08,230
♪
719
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:09,106
CHRIS' MOM:
They just clicked.
720
00:28:09,106 --> 00:28:11,942
I guess it was the music
that drew them together.
721
00:28:11,942 --> 00:28:13,443
He had somebody that understood him.
722
00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:17,823
CHRIS: This is uh, Decatur,
straight from the deck,
723
00:28:17,823 --> 00:28:19,324
Decatur where it's greater.
724
00:28:19,324 --> 00:28:21,785
Decatur is very much like the hood.
725
00:28:23,078 --> 00:28:25,497
You know, then there's
a good part of it, too.
726
00:28:25,497 --> 00:28:28,208
There's a lot of families.
727
00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:29,668
You know everybody in the neighborhood,
728
00:28:29,668 --> 00:28:31,461
you know everybody a street over.
729
00:28:31,461 --> 00:28:32,588
All the families know each other,
730
00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:33,922
all the parents know each other,
731
00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:36,008
You know,
keep a look out for all the kids.
732
00:28:36,008 --> 00:28:37,551
[children laughing]
733
00:28:38,635 --> 00:28:40,095
CHRIS:
This is the house I grew up in.
734
00:28:40,095 --> 00:28:43,140
The house I know most for growing up in.
735
00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:44,224
We moved around a little bit,
736
00:28:44,224 --> 00:28:47,769
but this is the-- where
all the memories were created.
737
00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:51,023
Um, this is where I got my first keyboard.
738
00:28:51,023 --> 00:28:53,108
- Your first drum set.
- First drum set.
739
00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:54,067
Um--
740
00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:57,654
This is even where piano
first came into my life.
741
00:28:57,654 --> 00:28:59,865
Uh, there was a piano in the living room.
742
00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:01,575
And, uh--
743
00:29:02,242 --> 00:29:03,619
Uh, as crazy as it seems
744
00:29:03,619 --> 00:29:06,914
we was having church
every Sunday in the living room.
745
00:29:06,914 --> 00:29:09,499
And, um, so just family members
would come over
746
00:29:09,499 --> 00:29:12,169
and just like church normally,
you know, they'd open the doors,
747
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:14,129
everybody come in
with their church clothes on,
748
00:29:14,129 --> 00:29:16,256
sit down at regular chairs.
749
00:29:16,256 --> 00:29:19,426
Set up like it was a really, you know,
a really-- a real service, you know?
750
00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:23,305
♪ poignant music playing ♪
751
00:29:23,305 --> 00:29:25,307
I remember just being in this driveway.
752
00:29:26,558 --> 00:29:28,185
It was a very sentimental moment.
753
00:29:29,102 --> 00:29:30,812
I don't know,
I didn't know what was happening.
754
00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:33,232
- [insect buzzing]
- But I know my mother had gathered us up
755
00:29:34,024 --> 00:29:36,276
and, you know, they told us a few things,
756
00:29:36,276 --> 00:29:39,071
but we've been young, 12, 13.
757
00:29:39,071 --> 00:29:41,323
And then, you know,
I didn't, I didn't wanna believe
758
00:29:41,323 --> 00:29:43,242
whatever was, was getting ready to happen,
759
00:29:43,242 --> 00:29:44,701
but it seemed like it was really eerie.
760
00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:46,954
After my dad was, like, you know,
761
00:29:46,954 --> 00:29:50,541
"I'm basically leavin' for a while,
and will be gone for a while."
762
00:29:50,541 --> 00:29:52,334
I remember after that,
it just didn't seem real.
763
00:29:52,334 --> 00:29:55,420
♪
764
00:30:03,887 --> 00:30:07,182
And, uh, I probably was like
ten years old, maybe nine, ten.
765
00:30:07,182 --> 00:30:10,227
So at that point in my life I felt a,
766
00:30:10,227 --> 00:30:12,938
a responsibility to, like,
really take over.
767
00:30:12,938 --> 00:30:14,982
I didn't, I didn't think my mom
could tell me what to do.
768
00:30:14,982 --> 00:30:16,733
'Cause I was like, you know,
"I'm the man of the house now.
769
00:30:16,733 --> 00:30:17,568
"Dad said I got it.
770
00:30:17,568 --> 00:30:19,361
He ain't here so I'm-I'm in control."
771
00:30:19,361 --> 00:30:20,779
She like, "He didn't mean that."
772
00:30:20,779 --> 00:30:22,322
- [Chris's Dad laughs]
- "If you really think
you the man of the house
773
00:30:22,322 --> 00:30:23,490
you need to be paying some bills."
774
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:25,659
- You know what I mean? So--
- So you settled down, then?
775
00:30:25,659 --> 00:30:26,618
CHRIS:
Yeah, I settled down.
776
00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:29,580
And I mean, and I did,
you know, when I turned 14, 15--
777
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:35,252
CHRIS' DAD: I spent, uh, 20 years
in prison from 1996 until 2016.
778
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:38,005
It was a very difficult time
for all of us,
779
00:30:38,005 --> 00:30:39,131
my entire family.
780
00:30:40,174 --> 00:30:41,425
Um--
781
00:30:41,425 --> 00:30:44,303
I sent Chris music as often as I could.
782
00:30:45,053 --> 00:30:47,806
CASSIUS: Chris' daddy used to
send Chris cassette tapes
783
00:30:47,806 --> 00:30:50,309
of him playing
because, of course, he was incarcerated.
784
00:30:50,309 --> 00:30:52,519
♪
785
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:53,478
[tape whirrs]
786
00:30:53,478 --> 00:30:55,898
CHRIS' DAD [over tape]:
Hey, Chris, check out this new song.
787
00:30:55,898 --> 00:31:01,028
I redid Amazing Grace
and I changed it to Grace Amazing.
788
00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:02,070
I kinda make it my own.
789
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:03,197
♪ keyboard music playing ♪
790
00:31:03,197 --> 00:31:04,406
CHRIS' DAD:
And watch the change right here.
791
00:31:05,449 --> 00:31:08,410
It'll flow right into it, the solo.
792
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:09,870
I'ma do the organ first.
793
00:31:10,579 --> 00:31:11,580
Now here's the piano.
794
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:13,290
I was thinking about you
when I did the piano
795
00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:15,167
since you like the piano
more than you like the organ.
796
00:31:16,168 --> 00:31:20,297
CHRIS: Not learning music with him
versus him sending tapes
797
00:31:20,297 --> 00:31:22,674
and talking on the tape
798
00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:24,593
and telling me how it's supposed to sound
799
00:31:24,593 --> 00:31:26,136
versus him being right there next to me,
800
00:31:26,136 --> 00:31:27,346
that was tough.
801
00:31:27,346 --> 00:31:29,598
Um, along with just not growing up,
802
00:31:29,598 --> 00:31:31,808
you know, without a father right there.
803
00:31:32,518 --> 00:31:34,144
CHRIS' DAD [over tape]:
Now Imma come back with a symph.
804
00:31:35,229 --> 00:31:37,856
Watch the bend, watch the bend.
805
00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:39,149
CASSIUS:
But he would just tell us like,
806
00:31:39,149 --> 00:31:41,735
"These are the chords,
one by one. A flat, C, E flat."
807
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,613
That was a triad, of course,
A flat, major cord.
808
00:31:44,613 --> 00:31:45,989
He'd just tell us stuff like that.
809
00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:49,535
CHRIS' DAD:
He would send me back cassette tapes,
810
00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:52,204
and he'd have a thousand questions,
811
00:31:52,996 --> 00:31:54,957
and I would always have one answer,
812
00:31:54,957 --> 00:31:56,875
"Figure it out.
813
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:58,836
"Because if I tell you,
814
00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:00,629
you're not gonna get it."
815
00:32:03,507 --> 00:32:04,550
CHRIS:
My dad was always like,
816
00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:07,594
"Even though you wanna know what I play
and play like me,
817
00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,972
"you know, always have your own sound.
818
00:32:09,972 --> 00:32:11,682
"Don't ever wanna be like nobody else.
819
00:32:11,682 --> 00:32:13,559
"Don't ever wanna sound like nobody else.
820
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,687
"You know, just develop something
that's your own off of,
821
00:32:16,687 --> 00:32:18,730
you know, what you learn."
822
00:32:18,730 --> 00:32:20,274
CHRIS' MOM:
Me looking from the outside in,
823
00:32:20,816 --> 00:32:22,651
I could say his father was a, uh,
824
00:32:22,651 --> 00:32:24,820
a-- and still is, an awesome musician.
825
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,114
So when I look at it,
826
00:32:27,114 --> 00:32:29,783
how many things could he
have shown Christopher?
827
00:32:29,783 --> 00:32:31,493
There were a lot of things that
828
00:32:31,493 --> 00:32:34,454
I know he could have been taught,
829
00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:36,290
or he could have learned from his dad.
830
00:32:37,124 --> 00:32:38,458
I think I was the last person
you probably talked to
831
00:32:38,458 --> 00:32:39,877
before you actually--
CHRIS' DAD: Left.
832
00:32:39,877 --> 00:32:41,128
Maybe walked away and left.
833
00:32:41,128 --> 00:32:42,588
You know, like the last time we saw him
834
00:32:42,588 --> 00:32:46,383
before we would see him, uh, incarcerated
and have to visit him.
835
00:32:46,383 --> 00:32:48,177
I think the last time I saw him
before then was like,
836
00:32:48,177 --> 00:32:50,679
watching him walk on the driveway
kinda confused,
837
00:32:50,679 --> 00:32:52,347
but I know the last thing
he said to me, he was like,
838
00:32:52,347 --> 00:32:53,307
"Everything's gonna be alright.
839
00:32:53,307 --> 00:32:54,224
Don't worry about it."
840
00:32:54,224 --> 00:32:55,726
And, uh--
CHRIS' DAD: Well, did I lie?
841
00:32:55,726 --> 00:32:56,935
No, you didn't lie.
842
00:32:56,935 --> 00:32:59,479
It wasn't, it wasn't
alright for a long time, you know.
843
00:32:59,479 --> 00:33:01,023
- But such is life.
- But it turned out alright.
844
00:33:01,023 --> 00:33:02,441
Um, but you gotta
go through those things
845
00:33:02,441 --> 00:33:03,734
in order for it to be alright.
846
00:33:03,734 --> 00:33:06,528
You'll never know what alright is
if you don't see it all the way through.
847
00:33:06,528 --> 00:33:08,238
- CHRIS' DAD: Exactly.
- And I'm really glad that we did.
848
00:33:08,238 --> 00:33:09,823
We did. And made it the rest of the way.
CHRIS' DAD: Exactly.
849
00:33:09,823 --> 00:33:10,657
Yeah.
850
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:12,701
That's a good father.
851
00:33:12,701 --> 00:33:13,702
I appreciate it.
852
00:33:13,702 --> 00:33:15,287
- Love you.
- I love you, too.
853
00:33:15,287 --> 00:33:17,289
♪
854
00:33:17,289 --> 00:33:20,501
I think that's always
gonna be a part of Chris that
855
00:33:20,501 --> 00:33:21,627
is untouchable,
856
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,839
because I think he closed himself off
857
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,133
in many ways while I was gone
858
00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:29,760
because he didn't know how to deal.
859
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,096
♪
860
00:33:33,096 --> 00:33:36,058
CHRIS: Holding it in definitely
does seem better a lot of times.
861
00:33:36,058 --> 00:33:38,685
You're more comfortable when you're
holding it in because nobody knows.
862
00:33:39,353 --> 00:33:40,812
As long as you don't deal with it,
863
00:33:40,812 --> 00:33:43,398
you think that it'll just go away,
you know,
864
00:33:43,398 --> 00:33:44,983
but it's not going away.
865
00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:46,693
It's actually
festering and growing, you know.
866
00:33:47,528 --> 00:33:50,280
So, as easy as it was to hold it in,
867
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,741
at some point, it--
I would have to let it out,
868
00:33:52,741 --> 00:33:53,992
you know, and deal with it.
869
00:33:55,577 --> 00:33:59,414
Chris is like me,
we don't show emotion and stuff like that.
870
00:33:59,873 --> 00:34:02,501
Chris would more or less put in his music.
871
00:34:02,501 --> 00:34:04,253
He don't have to say it,
but you'll hear it.
872
00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:08,715
People sit back and say,
"Oh, music's just music."
873
00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:10,759
Nah, music is life to us.
874
00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:13,679
Because without the music
we'd probably be somewhere
875
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:14,680
we don't wanna be.
876
00:34:18,684 --> 00:34:22,646
STIXX: I definitely do think
Chris has the capability to be a leader.
877
00:34:22,646 --> 00:34:24,940
I know things make it hard for him
878
00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:29,069
as far as being able
to push certain things
879
00:34:29,069 --> 00:34:32,239
because he has a million and one things
going on right now.
880
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,867
So, you know, you kinda
gotta stay on top of him, like,
881
00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,911
"Yo, Chris, don't forget, bro,
we gotta do this."
882
00:34:38,579 --> 00:34:40,831
ZAYTOVEN:
The hurtful part for musicians
883
00:34:40,831 --> 00:34:43,584
is the money or the compensation.
884
00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:46,962
As a musician,
it feels good to play the music
885
00:34:46,962 --> 00:34:48,881
in front of all these different people,
886
00:34:48,881 --> 00:34:51,091
but when it comes down to the money,
887
00:34:51,091 --> 00:34:53,468
it's like, it's not--
it's almost not worth it.
888
00:34:54,678 --> 00:34:57,264
I was gonna go to Whiskey
and just play there and have fun, but,
889
00:34:58,432 --> 00:35:00,976
then they called and said
they needed somebody to play.
890
00:35:00,976 --> 00:35:03,645
So, now it's turned into a gig,
turned into work now.
891
00:35:03,645 --> 00:35:06,356
So, ain't got no choice really.
892
00:35:06,356 --> 00:35:08,525
Wanted to make some money
to pay some bills.
893
00:35:09,902 --> 00:35:11,320
CHRIS' MOM:
Most gifted people,
894
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,613
they're one-track mind,
895
00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:14,990
they're-- their mind is on their gift.
896
00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:17,534
Their mind is on what they want
897
00:35:17,534 --> 00:35:18,869
and what they're dreaming of.
898
00:35:18,869 --> 00:35:21,955
[door rattling, squeaking]
899
00:35:21,955 --> 00:35:23,874
CHRIS' MOM:
Christopher is not a selfish person,
900
00:35:23,874 --> 00:35:27,836
but I see where sometimes
his gift will cloud him
901
00:35:27,836 --> 00:35:30,214
of other things that are going on in life.
902
00:35:31,632 --> 00:35:33,509
CHRIS:
What's the ETA for The Cats, 8:45?
903
00:35:33,509 --> 00:35:34,343
PERSON: Yeah.
CHRIS: Cool.
904
00:35:34,343 --> 00:35:35,177
He supposed to start at 9:00.
905
00:35:35,177 --> 00:35:36,386
He probably won't start till 9:30.
906
00:35:37,179 --> 00:35:38,013
[indistinct chatter]
907
00:35:38,013 --> 00:35:39,306
CHRIS:
Where the bottle at?
908
00:35:39,306 --> 00:35:41,725
KEVIN MCKINNERY:
When it comes down to music career-wise,
909
00:35:41,725 --> 00:35:43,101
nothing's easy.
910
00:35:43,101 --> 00:35:44,686
You have to really put in your dues,
911
00:35:45,979 --> 00:35:49,942
playing, going out, marketing yourself.
912
00:35:50,859 --> 00:35:53,612
If anybody ever tell you
that that's easy, they're lying.
913
00:35:53,612 --> 00:35:55,948
Can you grab that stand, please?
Thank you.
914
00:35:56,406 --> 00:35:57,324
I'm sorry.
915
00:36:00,911 --> 00:36:01,787
Uh-oh.
916
00:36:01,787 --> 00:36:02,829
PERSON 2:
You gonna push it down.
917
00:36:02,829 --> 00:36:03,872
CHRIS: You wanna go backwards?
PERSON 2: Yeah, back.
918
00:36:03,872 --> 00:36:05,165
CHRIS: I didn't want it
to be on top of your stuff.
919
00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:05,999
PERSON 2:
No.
920
00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:07,876
CHRIS:
Maybe I can hold it in front of me.
921
00:36:07,876 --> 00:36:08,710
PERSON 2:
See?
922
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:10,796
CHRIS: And being on tour
with all these, all the celebrities,
923
00:36:10,796 --> 00:36:13,423
you know, it's fun to do that,
but it's just, it was, it's a job.
924
00:36:13,423 --> 00:36:15,175
EMCEE [on microphone]:
Cafe 290, what's happening?
925
00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:17,719
How's everybody feeling
on this Friday evening?
926
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,054
Y'all alright?
927
00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:19,930
AUDIENCE:
Yeah.
928
00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,057
EMCEE:
You all sit back and enjoy yourselves.
929
00:36:22,057 --> 00:36:23,100
[applause]
930
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,727
CHRIS: It's very important to me
that when I'm gone,
931
00:36:25,727 --> 00:36:27,771
like, there's something
that y'all gonna say.
932
00:36:27,771 --> 00:36:30,232
Like, if there's one thing
Chris wanted to be carried on,
933
00:36:30,232 --> 00:36:31,191
what would it be?
934
00:36:31,191 --> 00:36:32,818
And it's gonna be
an easy answer for everybody.
935
00:36:32,818 --> 00:36:35,654
It's gonna be Trap Jazz,
like keep that shit going.
936
00:36:36,822 --> 00:36:40,158
♪ gentle piano music playing ♪
937
00:36:40,158 --> 00:36:45,622
♪
938
00:36:45,622 --> 00:36:47,207
With this particular song,
939
00:36:47,207 --> 00:36:49,042
the melody was the first thing
I came up with.
940
00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:50,794
♪
941
00:36:50,794 --> 00:36:54,089
Whitney Houston does this
one run that everybody stole.
942
00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:55,716
Like, if you are a great singer
943
00:36:55,716 --> 00:36:57,676
and you, like, riff a lot with your voice,
944
00:36:58,343 --> 00:37:00,387
or try to be acrobatic or whatever,
945
00:37:00,387 --> 00:37:02,014
you gonna do this run all the time.
946
00:37:02,014 --> 00:37:04,975
♪ plays piano notes ♪
947
00:37:04,975 --> 00:37:06,059
You know what I'm saying?
948
00:37:06,059 --> 00:37:07,936
So I wanted to find something
that people can relate to
949
00:37:07,936 --> 00:37:09,104
and that they can sing.
950
00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:10,814
And then when that,
when I'm not doing that,
951
00:37:10,814 --> 00:37:13,275
then I'll play
some other stuff and go crazy.
952
00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:15,652
But, for that melody,
when I was playing it--
953
00:37:15,652 --> 00:37:17,112
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪
954
00:37:17,112 --> 00:37:18,488
I just heard it like that.
955
00:37:18,488 --> 00:37:19,823
♪
956
00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:21,074
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪
957
00:37:21,074 --> 00:37:22,159
And I knew that wasn't it,
958
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:23,368
I was like, there's gotta be more.
959
00:37:23,952 --> 00:37:25,495
♪ plays high-pitched note ♪
960
00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:27,247
♪ jazz piano music playing ♪
961
00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:28,916
♪
962
00:37:28,916 --> 00:37:29,875
Now repeat that.
963
00:37:29,875 --> 00:37:30,876
♪
964
00:37:30,876 --> 00:37:32,836
I knew that I needed to find something.
965
00:37:32,836 --> 00:37:34,338
If people are gonna like Trap Jazz,
they gonna be able,
966
00:37:34,338 --> 00:37:35,464
they have to be able to sing it.
967
00:37:35,464 --> 00:37:37,257
'Cause the reason why
they don't listen to jazz now
968
00:37:37,257 --> 00:37:38,217
is 'cause they can't sing it.
969
00:37:39,134 --> 00:37:39,968
They don't understand it.
970
00:37:39,968 --> 00:37:40,969
It's too much going on.
971
00:37:40,969 --> 00:37:41,845
It's like all this.
972
00:37:41,845 --> 00:37:44,264
♪ playing fast-paced jazz music ♪
973
00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:47,643
♪
974
00:37:47,643 --> 00:37:49,019
Man, you can't sing that.
975
00:37:49,019 --> 00:37:51,522
I mean, it's all a part of, like,
making sure that to me,
976
00:37:51,522 --> 00:37:54,024
make sure people feel like
what they would normally feel
977
00:37:54,024 --> 00:37:55,400
in a rap song.
978
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,277
Like, if, if they don't feel like
they're not gonna label it
979
00:37:57,277 --> 00:37:59,279
the same type of music, you know,
980
00:37:59,279 --> 00:38:01,365
so if they feel like this is a rap song
981
00:38:01,365 --> 00:38:04,409
and like some girls is up
on the couches and chairs
982
00:38:04,409 --> 00:38:06,578
twerking, shakin' their ass,
like, I like that.
983
00:38:07,412 --> 00:38:10,040
You know, because I feel like
they're-they're-they're doing
984
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,210
what they would normally do
in a rap concert,
985
00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:14,878
and if they're doing that
at a jazz concert,
986
00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:15,963
we've accomplished something.
987
00:38:15,963 --> 00:38:18,590
♪
988
00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:20,259
♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪
989
00:38:20,259 --> 00:38:23,554
♪
990
00:38:23,554 --> 00:38:25,097
PRETTY KEN:
Music is a feeling.
991
00:38:25,097 --> 00:38:28,392
So when you're trying to mesh
two different feelings together,
992
00:38:28,392 --> 00:38:30,853
you really have to find somethin' special.
993
00:38:30,853 --> 00:38:32,354
You really have to find the groove.
994
00:38:32,354 --> 00:38:33,480
You really have to find it.
995
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,067
♪
996
00:38:37,067 --> 00:38:40,654
Because jazz is such a calming coolness.
997
00:38:40,654 --> 00:38:43,448
It's the unstructured playing
998
00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:46,994
and just, it's that movement of the music.
999
00:38:47,953 --> 00:38:52,291
Trap, it's nothing movin',
it's just a vibe.
1000
00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:54,168
♪
1001
00:38:54,168 --> 00:38:57,713
So you're trying to blend
this energy with this energy
1002
00:38:58,839 --> 00:38:59,840
and it's gonna be hard.
1003
00:39:00,632 --> 00:39:03,093
CHRIS:
What makes it hard is not having
1004
00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:05,971
lyrical content in the music.
1005
00:39:05,971 --> 00:39:07,389
If the song feels sad,
1006
00:39:07,389 --> 00:39:09,892
then typically it's gonna be sad lyrics.
1007
00:39:09,892 --> 00:39:12,728
So the music will always go
hand in hand with the lyrics
1008
00:39:12,728 --> 00:39:15,606
and us not having the lyrics in the music,
1009
00:39:15,606 --> 00:39:17,733
is kinda tough to get
people to understand
1010
00:39:17,733 --> 00:39:20,694
what it sounds like
or what we're trying to say
1011
00:39:20,694 --> 00:39:22,029
if we're not using words.
1012
00:39:22,029 --> 00:39:23,155
♪
1013
00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:25,574
YUNG JOC: For people
to really take the music serious
1014
00:39:26,158 --> 00:39:27,784
or to really move with the music,
1015
00:39:27,784 --> 00:39:29,161
♪
1016
00:39:29,161 --> 00:39:30,996
I gotta relate,
1017
00:39:30,996 --> 00:39:33,040
and I think that's one
of the hardest parts of being a artist,
1018
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,251
is trying to figure out
how to bring people together
1019
00:39:36,251 --> 00:39:37,503
and get on one accord.
1020
00:39:45,636 --> 00:39:46,470
[pool ball clacks]
1021
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:48,055
Oh, wow.
CHRIS: Damn, that's crazy.
1022
00:39:48,055 --> 00:39:49,765
CASSIUS:
See I do the, I do the hard part.
1023
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:51,892
My job is to produce,
1024
00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:54,102
my job is to make the trap beats.
1025
00:39:54,102 --> 00:39:56,563
Chris' job is to, to do the jazz.
1026
00:39:56,563 --> 00:39:58,023
Chris is a jazz musician.
1027
00:39:58,023 --> 00:40:01,401
It's my job and it's-it's my calling
1028
00:40:01,401 --> 00:40:02,778
to make sure I help all my brothers.
1029
00:40:02,778 --> 00:40:05,113
It's my job to help them.
It's my job to give them beats.
1030
00:40:05,113 --> 00:40:07,699
They want the beats
they just afraid to ask.
1031
00:40:07,699 --> 00:40:08,867
STIXX:
For sure.
1032
00:40:08,867 --> 00:40:09,701
CASSIUS:
And I don't know if y'all--
1033
00:40:09,701 --> 00:40:12,287
I wasn't afraid,
I called him 20,000 times.
1034
00:40:12,287 --> 00:40:15,040
- I sent 'em a track call Red.
- Red.
1035
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,667
STIXX:
The Red. Hey, Red go hard.
1036
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:17,876
- Wait till y'all hear Red.
- It go hard now.
1037
00:40:17,876 --> 00:40:20,128
- We gonna play Red Tuesday at the show.
- Yeah.
1038
00:40:20,128 --> 00:40:21,755
I've created probably six different,
1039
00:40:21,755 --> 00:40:23,465
seven different shows.
1040
00:40:23,465 --> 00:40:26,176
But this one that we're gonna do
is a show that we never done before.
1041
00:40:26,844 --> 00:40:28,637
CASSIUS: What songs are y'all
playing though for real, for real?
1042
00:40:28,637 --> 00:40:29,972
Man, we gonna play Scream.
1043
00:40:29,972 --> 00:40:31,181
- CHRIS: Royalty.
- It's the original.
1044
00:40:31,181 --> 00:40:33,892
Royalty,
Cassius produced it, Young Dolph.
1045
00:40:33,892 --> 00:40:35,519
We gonna play Boot Up, of course.
1046
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,229
We gotta really bring out all the stops,
1047
00:40:37,229 --> 00:40:38,355
you know, we gotta go crazy,
1048
00:40:38,355 --> 00:40:41,859
you know, we gotta really play
and let them know that this is Atlanta.
1049
00:40:41,859 --> 00:40:43,318
This is what we sound like.
This is what we do.
1050
00:40:43,318 --> 00:40:47,114
It's gonna provide
a bunch of new opportunities
1051
00:40:47,114 --> 00:40:50,742
and big old doors for us to knock down
and run through.
1052
00:40:50,742 --> 00:40:52,536
That's really big for us.
1053
00:40:52,536 --> 00:40:55,122
Definitely one of
the biggest things we've done.
1054
00:40:55,122 --> 00:40:56,874
CASSIUS:
When I think of jazz, I think of older,
1055
00:40:56,874 --> 00:40:58,709
the older community.
1056
00:40:58,709 --> 00:41:00,460
I don't think of the young community.
1057
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:03,589
Young people don't listen to jazz,
they listen to trap music.
1058
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:07,092
So now we get to bring
the older generation into trap music.
1059
00:41:07,092 --> 00:41:11,972
So I think Trap Jazz is gonna bring
a whole 'nother community together.
1060
00:41:12,389 --> 00:41:13,557
STIXX:
For sure.
1061
00:41:13,557 --> 00:41:16,518
♪ playing slow drum and percussion notes ♪
1062
00:41:16,518 --> 00:41:22,274
♪
1063
00:41:22,274 --> 00:41:24,318
♪ notes grow louder ♪
1064
00:41:24,318 --> 00:41:26,820
♪ piano joins drums and percussion ♪
1065
00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:28,488
PERSON 1:
I am not a fan of jazz music.
1066
00:41:28,488 --> 00:41:30,365
My mother is a fan of jazz music.
1067
00:41:30,365 --> 00:41:31,700
I've never got into it.
1068
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,619
♪
1069
00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:36,496
PERSON 2:
I'm not open to learning more about jazz.
1070
00:41:36,496 --> 00:41:39,625
It's like something that I never
1071
00:41:39,625 --> 00:41:41,001
was interested in hearing.
1072
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,962
♪ music grows peppy ♪
1073
00:41:43,962 --> 00:41:45,130
LALAH HATHAWAY:
You know, If you go to places
1074
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:47,132
that you're supposed to be kinda classy,
1075
00:41:47,132 --> 00:41:48,592
there's-there's jazz,
1076
00:41:48,592 --> 00:41:52,888
but there's not really, um,
an appreciation in this country
1077
00:41:52,888 --> 00:41:54,723
as a whole for that.
1078
00:41:54,723 --> 00:41:56,016
♪
1079
00:41:56,016 --> 00:41:57,226
RAY MURRAY:
Has cobwebs on it,
1080
00:41:57,226 --> 00:42:00,938
which is why people run from embracing it.
1081
00:42:00,938 --> 00:42:03,690
It's the term, it's not what it is.
1082
00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:06,985
It's your instant visualization.
1083
00:42:07,611 --> 00:42:08,695
When you say "jazz,"
1084
00:42:08,695 --> 00:42:10,864
you think of a bunch of people
snapping their fingers
1085
00:42:10,864 --> 00:42:12,824
and somebody on stage.
1086
00:42:12,824 --> 00:42:15,160
That's an old reference
and it's stereotype.
1087
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,789
♪ peppy piano music playing ♪
1088
00:42:18,789 --> 00:42:21,792
♪ percussion and sax joins piano ♪
1089
00:42:21,792 --> 00:42:23,919
♪ music tempo increases ♪
1090
00:42:23,919 --> 00:42:25,087
♪
1091
00:42:25,087 --> 00:42:30,717
DORATHA "DODIE" SMITH-SIMMONS:
Jazz used to spell J-A-S-S.
1092
00:42:31,343 --> 00:42:32,970
Do you know what that stood for?
1093
00:42:33,637 --> 00:42:35,848
Jackass music.
1094
00:42:35,848 --> 00:42:37,766
That's what white folks called it
1095
00:42:37,766 --> 00:42:41,770
as one white musician
told me in polite society.
1096
00:42:41,770 --> 00:42:43,981
♪
1097
00:42:43,981 --> 00:42:46,233
CHIEF XIAN ATUNDE ADJUAH:
In that space, it meant one thing.
1098
00:42:46,233 --> 00:42:50,863
In larger space, I think
when people use the word "jazz,"
1099
00:42:50,863 --> 00:42:53,532
really they're talking about
creative improvised music.
1100
00:42:53,532 --> 00:42:54,533
♪
1101
00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:56,743
SONNY EMORY:
Jazz is different than any other genre,
1102
00:42:56,743 --> 00:42:58,829
just simply because of the freedom
1103
00:42:58,829 --> 00:43:00,664
that it allows the player to have.
1104
00:43:00,664 --> 00:43:02,332
There are no boundaries in jazz.
1105
00:43:02,332 --> 00:43:04,126
♪ fast-paced jazz music playing ♪
[audience cheers and applause]
1106
00:43:04,126 --> 00:43:07,963
CHRIS:
I used to watch these jazz videos of, um,
1107
00:43:07,963 --> 00:43:11,049
Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie,
Miles Davis,
1108
00:43:11,049 --> 00:43:13,927
Jelly Roll Morton,
Pagnell, Art Tatum,
1109
00:43:13,927 --> 00:43:15,846
Oscar Peterson, who was my favorite.
1110
00:43:16,388 --> 00:43:18,307
He's my favorite piano player
in the whole wide world,
1111
00:43:18,307 --> 00:43:19,641
Oscar Peterson.
1112
00:43:19,641 --> 00:43:23,478
I was listening to all these
amazing jazz musicians,
1113
00:43:23,478 --> 00:43:25,898
and what I really loved about them
1114
00:43:25,898 --> 00:43:27,441
was it seemed like when they were playing
1115
00:43:27,441 --> 00:43:29,610
they didn't have to play a certain thing.
1116
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:31,987
It was like structured chaos, you know.
1117
00:43:31,987 --> 00:43:34,406
It was like they knew what to play
1118
00:43:34,406 --> 00:43:37,242
but they was coming up with it
as they was playing it.
1119
00:43:37,242 --> 00:43:39,870
That's what really made me
like jazz the most.
1120
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:40,787
♪
1121
00:43:40,787 --> 00:43:43,373
CHIEF XIAN: There's this air about it
that you could make an argument
1122
00:43:43,373 --> 00:43:45,626
that it's arguably the most sophisticated
1123
00:43:45,626 --> 00:43:48,003
sonic art form in the world.
1124
00:43:48,003 --> 00:43:49,671
But it-- there's also this air about it
1125
00:43:49,671 --> 00:43:51,215
where it's, like,
it comes from Black people,
1126
00:43:51,215 --> 00:43:53,550
so it can't be
that sophisticated and nuanced.
1127
00:43:54,259 --> 00:43:57,387
MR. ROBERT COLN: Growing up as a kid
and being African American,
1128
00:43:57,387 --> 00:43:59,723
the things that you listen to
are very limited.
1129
00:43:59,723 --> 00:44:00,724
♪
1130
00:44:00,724 --> 00:44:02,976
On a normal day, and during that time,
1131
00:44:02,976 --> 00:44:05,270
you couldn't even put your face
on a album cover,
1132
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:08,398
much let's say you gonna
go somewhere and play.
1133
00:44:08,398 --> 00:44:12,653
Jazz got the African American musician
out into being seen,
1134
00:44:12,653 --> 00:44:14,154
and that was done through...
1135
00:44:14,154 --> 00:44:15,197
[camera shutters snapping]
1136
00:44:15,489 --> 00:44:16,490
MR. COLN:
...Al Capone,
1137
00:44:17,366 --> 00:44:19,535
and all of the gangsters.
1138
00:44:19,535 --> 00:44:21,828
And they would ask the Black musicians
to come in and play jazz
1139
00:44:21,828 --> 00:44:23,956
because that's what they liked.
1140
00:44:24,915 --> 00:44:26,416
But jazz has a origin, too.
1141
00:44:27,543 --> 00:44:28,377
Gospel.
1142
00:44:28,377 --> 00:44:31,672
VOCALIST [singing]: ♪ Trouble in my way ♪
CHOIR [sings]: ♪ Trouble in my way ♪
1143
00:44:31,672 --> 00:44:35,384
- ♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪
- ♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪
1144
00:44:35,384 --> 00:44:36,301
♪ Trouble in my way, yeah ♪
1145
00:44:36,301 --> 00:44:38,220
♪ Trouble in my way ♪
1146
00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:40,806
♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪
1147
00:44:40,806 --> 00:44:43,016
MR. COLN:
Gospel has an origin too, the blues.
1148
00:44:43,016 --> 00:44:44,685
CHOIR:
♪ I lay awake at night ♪
1149
00:44:44,685 --> 00:44:46,812
Blues has an origin, slaves.
1150
00:44:46,812 --> 00:44:48,438
CHOIR:
♪ That's alright ♪
1151
00:44:48,438 --> 00:44:51,149
JAZZE PHA:
Gospel is the sole provider
1152
00:44:51,149 --> 00:44:53,068
of everything that we do,
1153
00:44:53,068 --> 00:44:56,113
because as children
we come from Sunday school.
1154
00:44:56,113 --> 00:44:58,615
♪ upbeat gospel music playing ♪
1155
00:44:58,615 --> 00:44:59,658
[singing] ♪ When the gates ♪
1156
00:44:59,658 --> 00:45:00,993
CHOIR [sings]:
♪ When the gates ♪
1157
00:45:00,993 --> 00:45:02,619
♪ Swing open ♪
1158
00:45:02,619 --> 00:45:04,830
CHOIR:
♪ Ohh ♪
1159
00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,666
♪ indistinct singing ♪
1160
00:45:07,666 --> 00:45:09,251
♪
1161
00:45:09,251 --> 00:45:12,129
STIXX: Church has bred
so many musicians in secular music.
1162
00:45:12,129 --> 00:45:14,047
It's a spiritual thing, man.
1163
00:45:14,047 --> 00:45:16,383
You know, just God blessing us.
1164
00:45:16,383 --> 00:45:18,677
Church is definitely, like,
a great learning tool
1165
00:45:18,677 --> 00:45:21,972
and a great starting point
for a lot of musicians
1166
00:45:21,972 --> 00:45:25,184
to really see if this is
what they wanna do in life.
1167
00:45:25,184 --> 00:45:29,271
♪ Every day I wish you'd just teach me ♪
1168
00:45:29,271 --> 00:45:30,647
ZAYTOVEN:
When they create music,
1169
00:45:30,647 --> 00:45:33,650
it has a different passion,
it has a different soul,
1170
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:35,444
has a different heartbeat to it
1171
00:45:35,444 --> 00:45:36,778
than just somebody that just,
1172
00:45:36,778 --> 00:45:38,447
you know, that didn't
grow up in church at all.
1173
00:45:39,448 --> 00:45:40,866
CHIEF XIAN:
They're responding to the energy,
1174
00:45:40,866 --> 00:45:44,953
and the vibration
in the space is important.
1175
00:45:44,953 --> 00:45:48,123
So if you've ever been
to a Baptist church in Louisiana,
1176
00:45:48,123 --> 00:45:49,750
you are going to feel some things.
1177
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:51,585
I don't-- You know,
you could actually think
1178
00:45:51,585 --> 00:45:54,880
that you may be the most heartless person
walking the planet,
1179
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,841
and walk into that environment
and it's a sound, man.
1180
00:45:57,841 --> 00:45:58,926
♪
1181
00:45:58,926 --> 00:46:00,302
♪ I know that you've been praying ♪
1182
00:46:00,302 --> 00:46:01,595
CASSIUS:
Church, that's our foundation.
1183
00:46:01,595 --> 00:46:02,721
That's what have us grounded,
1184
00:46:03,263 --> 00:46:04,598
Stixx, Chris and all them.
1185
00:46:05,057 --> 00:46:07,643
CHRIS: In our music I want people
to know that we from the church.
1186
00:46:07,643 --> 00:46:09,144
CASSIUS:
We, we know where we came from.
1187
00:46:09,144 --> 00:46:10,646
♪ I got some news... ♪
1188
00:46:10,646 --> 00:46:12,397
LIL' JOHN ROBERTS:
I went from church gospel music
1189
00:46:12,397 --> 00:46:13,690
to playing straight ahead jazz,
1190
00:46:13,690 --> 00:46:16,068
and then jumping into the R&B world.
1191
00:46:16,068 --> 00:46:18,070
You know, I see these guys
doing the same thing,
1192
00:46:18,070 --> 00:46:19,196
like going from church,
1193
00:46:19,196 --> 00:46:20,822
now they're doing the trap stuff and all.
1194
00:46:20,822 --> 00:46:25,077
So, I like to see, you know,
the variety mixed into their music.
1195
00:46:25,077 --> 00:46:30,249
Jazz, rhythm and blues,
funk, fusion, hip-hop, trap,
1196
00:46:30,249 --> 00:46:32,626
they are all an expression
from the street,
1197
00:46:32,626 --> 00:46:35,712
from people saying,
"Here-here's what we wanna put into this.
1198
00:46:35,712 --> 00:46:37,965
"We want to interject this
into the conversation.
1199
00:46:37,965 --> 00:46:39,174
We want our voices heard."
1200
00:46:39,174 --> 00:46:40,926
What is trap music? What does it do?
1201
00:46:41,426 --> 00:46:43,971
♪ I don't do the most, but I do a lot ♪
1202
00:46:44,847 --> 00:46:47,391
♪ I'ma make a toast
'cause we still alive ♪
1203
00:46:47,391 --> 00:46:49,184
CASSIUS:
Trap music is the new pop music.
1204
00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:52,104
Like, you don't hear too much people
talking about pop no more.
1205
00:46:52,104 --> 00:46:52,938
♪ I shoot the shot ♪
1206
00:46:52,938 --> 00:46:53,772
♪ Brr, brr, brr ♪
1207
00:46:53,772 --> 00:46:55,148
♪ I'm coming in hot ♪
1208
00:46:55,148 --> 00:47:00,487
♪
1209
00:47:00,487 --> 00:47:02,072
CASSIUS: Urban music
is the biggest thing right now.
1210
00:47:02,072 --> 00:47:03,574
Everybody wanna be Young Thug.
1211
00:47:03,574 --> 00:47:05,701
STIXX:
Trap music is Atlanta.
1212
00:47:05,701 --> 00:47:06,827
That's our sound.
1213
00:47:06,827 --> 00:47:09,913
That's how it has taken over,
like, our city and our culture.
1214
00:47:09,913 --> 00:47:10,998
You know, I love it.
1215
00:47:11,456 --> 00:47:12,291
♪
1216
00:47:12,291 --> 00:47:13,917
[sirens wailing]
[helicopter whirring]
1217
00:47:13,917 --> 00:47:17,171
♪
1218
00:47:17,171 --> 00:47:19,756
CASSIUS:
The trap is hood stuff, gangster stuff,
1219
00:47:19,756 --> 00:47:22,801
gangs and drugs and guns,
1220
00:47:22,801 --> 00:47:24,511
and trap is the ghetto.
1221
00:47:24,511 --> 00:47:26,180
Once you in there, you in there,
1222
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:27,514
there ain't no coming out.
1223
00:47:27,514 --> 00:47:28,891
It's a trap.
1224
00:47:29,308 --> 00:47:30,726
The house I grew up in,
1225
00:47:30,726 --> 00:47:33,770
literally right across the street
was a trap house,
1226
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:34,646
right next door.
1227
00:47:34,646 --> 00:47:36,523
Like, it just was a way of life.
1228
00:47:36,523 --> 00:47:40,068
That's all they knew,
was how to sell drugs.
1229
00:47:40,068 --> 00:47:42,988
You gotta be in the trap
to make trap music, man.
1230
00:47:42,988 --> 00:47:45,949
But this is where this shit started from
though. Know what I'm saying?
1231
00:47:45,949 --> 00:47:47,367
This where this shit started from.
1232
00:47:47,367 --> 00:47:48,744
Trap music could be anything either.
1233
00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:49,620
Ain't gonna lie to you,
1234
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:51,371
we talking about trap music
it's been a little trap.
1235
00:47:51,371 --> 00:47:52,539
INTERVIEWER:
It did?
1236
00:47:52,539 --> 00:47:53,498
So what trap mean to you?
1237
00:47:53,498 --> 00:47:55,751
The real trap is survival.
1238
00:47:56,168 --> 00:47:58,629
Man, there's a whole lot of narcotics
on the, on the mix tape, man.
1239
00:47:58,629 --> 00:48:00,506
You know what I mean?
You just spin your drug lingo,
1240
00:48:00,506 --> 00:48:05,469
you spin the discrete side
of your lifestyle on music.
1241
00:48:05,469 --> 00:48:07,804
My second album
was the first time the word "trap"
1242
00:48:07,804 --> 00:48:10,224
and the word "music" was combined.
1243
00:48:10,224 --> 00:48:12,935
The album meant to represent
a large group of people
1244
00:48:12,935 --> 00:48:15,812
who were doing the same shit
that I was doing,
1245
00:48:15,812 --> 00:48:17,940
and wasn't nobody speaking
for 'em at the time.
1246
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:20,317
You inspire them and let them know that
1247
00:48:20,317 --> 00:48:22,027
you too could come from that wreckage
1248
00:48:22,027 --> 00:48:26,073
and make something of the skills
that you've acquired
1249
00:48:26,073 --> 00:48:27,324
and take it somewhere else.
1250
00:48:27,324 --> 00:48:30,244
I didn't go into making that album
1251
00:48:30,244 --> 00:48:32,746
as thinking that the world
needed trap music.
1252
00:48:32,746 --> 00:48:35,791
I went into it thinking
the niggas in the trap
1253
00:48:35,791 --> 00:48:37,417
needed trap music. [chuckles]
1254
00:48:37,417 --> 00:48:41,839
People think that it's strictly about,
you know, selling drugs.
1255
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:43,298
It-It might have stemmed from that,
1256
00:48:43,298 --> 00:48:44,883
but that's not all it is.
1257
00:48:44,883 --> 00:48:47,135
CASSIUS: If it wasn't for Zaytoven,
there wouldn't be a Cassius.
1258
00:48:47,135 --> 00:48:50,472
And there's another way,
I met Zaytoven at church.
1259
00:48:50,472 --> 00:48:53,475
Everything I came across was
at church, church, church, church, church.
1260
00:48:53,475 --> 00:48:55,060
That's why I still play at church.
1261
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:56,895
I started making beats like Zaytoven.
1262
00:48:57,563 --> 00:48:59,481
Everything he did, I would mimic,
I would sit right there.
1263
00:48:59,481 --> 00:49:01,191
He had an MPC, I went and bought an MPC.
1264
00:49:01,191 --> 00:49:03,902
He would go get, uh, Kronos keyboard,
1265
00:49:03,902 --> 00:49:06,071
I'd go save up me some money,
get a Kronos keyboard.
1266
00:49:06,071 --> 00:49:08,031
At this time I don't really got
too much of no money,
1267
00:49:08,031 --> 00:49:10,117
but I'm hanging with Zaytoven, since like,
1268
00:49:10,117 --> 00:49:12,202
if I wanna be like him, I gotta mimic him.
1269
00:49:12,202 --> 00:49:14,204
♪ hip-hop beat playing ♪
1270
00:49:14,204 --> 00:49:19,459
♪
1271
00:49:19,459 --> 00:49:21,295
ZAYTOVEN:
My definition of trap music is,
1272
00:49:21,295 --> 00:49:25,048
it's motivational music,
spontaneous music.
1273
00:49:25,048 --> 00:49:28,260
♪
1274
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:29,887
It's unpolished music.
1275
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,139
STIXX:
I think people are drawn to it
1276
00:49:32,139 --> 00:49:35,225
number one,
because of how the beats sound,
1277
00:49:35,225 --> 00:49:37,227
that grimy sound is the trap sound.
1278
00:49:37,227 --> 00:49:39,646
You know, it make everybody dance
soon as they hear it.
1279
00:49:40,355 --> 00:49:42,232
DJ TOOMP:
Now you got effects that'll
1280
00:49:42,232 --> 00:49:43,942
take the music and warp it.
1281
00:49:43,942 --> 00:49:47,487
[imitates electronic beats
warbling and warping]
1282
00:49:47,487 --> 00:49:49,031
And all the kinda filtering.
1283
00:49:49,031 --> 00:49:51,074
♪ playing piano notes ♪
1284
00:49:51,074 --> 00:49:56,371
♪
1285
00:49:56,371 --> 00:49:58,457
DJ TOOMP: It's a lot of technology,
a lot of plugins,
1286
00:49:58,457 --> 00:50:01,668
a lot of different things that's really
enhancing the sound basically.
1287
00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:05,214
DRUMMA BOY: It's the producers
that are creating these new sounds,
1288
00:50:05,214 --> 00:50:08,133
creating these new waves for new artists,
1289
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:10,677
really seeing the evolution.
1290
00:50:10,677 --> 00:50:12,304
And once you've seen the evolution,
1291
00:50:12,304 --> 00:50:15,390
you kinda can see
how it's gonna keep going.
1292
00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:18,477
What I know of most of the jazz players
1293
00:50:18,477 --> 00:50:21,438
who are prolific and legendary,
1294
00:50:21,438 --> 00:50:23,357
they spent plenty of time in some traps.
1295
00:50:23,357 --> 00:50:25,067
[chuckles]
You know what I'm saying? So--
1296
00:50:26,443 --> 00:50:31,657
The drug dealer and the musician
has been synonymous
1297
00:50:31,657 --> 00:50:32,866
since the beginnin' of time.
1298
00:50:34,243 --> 00:50:38,622
YUNG JOC:
It's a body of so much pain, struggle,
1299
00:50:38,622 --> 00:50:41,333
but at the same time, success.
1300
00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:43,877
When you had people
like T.I. talking about stuff
1301
00:50:43,877 --> 00:50:45,212
he was going through,
1302
00:50:46,505 --> 00:50:49,258
and then at the same time
still talking about coming up,
1303
00:50:49,258 --> 00:50:50,634
it's not just gangster music.
1304
00:50:50,634 --> 00:50:52,427
I must live in left field somewhere.
1305
00:50:52,427 --> 00:50:55,097
I must be getting old. Trap.
1306
00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:00,435
Man, trap jazz,
I couldn't believe nobody was doing it.
1307
00:51:00,435 --> 00:51:02,145
Remind me of Kenny G.
1308
00:51:02,145 --> 00:51:04,314
Remember Kenny G would do
all Janet Jackson songs,
1309
00:51:04,314 --> 00:51:05,649
but he'd play it on his horn?
1310
00:51:05,649 --> 00:51:09,820
Well, I-I got a good, I got a good idea
why they probably don't do it.
1311
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:12,239
There's a lot of, you know, the old,
1312
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,740
you know, I call 'em the foggie stogies.
1313
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:14,950
- CASSIUS: Okay.
- You know what I'm saying?
1314
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:17,661
They don't really want to mesh the two
1315
00:51:17,661 --> 00:51:22,457
because they feel like jazz is jazz,
is to be revered and respected as,
1316
00:51:22,457 --> 00:51:25,127
you know, jazz is j-just jazz.
CASSIUS: Right.
1317
00:51:25,127 --> 00:51:26,420
JAZZE PHA:
It has a certain class to it.
1318
00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:27,254
Yes.
1319
00:51:27,254 --> 00:51:28,714
Jazz is very classy.
CASSIUS: Right.
1320
00:51:28,714 --> 00:51:31,425
And so for, you know, some people,
1321
00:51:31,425 --> 00:51:34,970
a lot of "musicians and people,"
you know, might feel as classless.
1322
00:51:35,387 --> 00:51:38,265
People might think that,
until they hear it,
1323
00:51:38,265 --> 00:51:39,600
and they feel it,
1324
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,019
and they see the effect
that it has on people.
1325
00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:44,855
♪ light, poignant music playing ♪
1326
00:51:44,855 --> 00:51:46,732
♪
1327
00:51:46,732 --> 00:51:48,442
CHRIS:
My first experience with jazz
1328
00:51:48,442 --> 00:51:50,861
was at Columbia High School
with Mr. Coln.
1329
00:51:50,861 --> 00:51:52,237
♪
1330
00:51:52,237 --> 00:51:54,156
[school bell ringing]
1331
00:51:54,156 --> 00:51:56,158
♪
1332
00:51:56,158 --> 00:51:57,784
CHRIS:
Those years was important I think.
1333
00:51:57,784 --> 00:51:59,870
♪
1334
00:51:59,870 --> 00:52:01,330
They really, like, molded me
1335
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:04,291
and taught me how to
have my own discipline
1336
00:52:04,291 --> 00:52:05,834
in learning music.
1337
00:52:05,834 --> 00:52:11,215
♪
1338
00:52:11,215 --> 00:52:15,552
Hey, Mr. Coln, aah!
1339
00:52:15,552 --> 00:52:16,720
Oh, my God.
1340
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,180
CHRIS:
How are you, man?
1341
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:19,848
- Good to see you.
- What's up, dawg?
1342
00:52:19,848 --> 00:52:22,059
Okay, now explain this trap thing to me.
1343
00:52:22,059 --> 00:52:24,561
CHRIS: Alright, so,
[clears throat] basically trap,
1344
00:52:24,561 --> 00:52:27,731
the trap part of it is, um,
is basically the hood,
1345
00:52:27,731 --> 00:52:31,735
you know, like growing up in the,
in the hood there's trap houses,
1346
00:52:31,735 --> 00:52:34,988
there's, you know, people talk,
the rappers talking about trap
1347
00:52:34,988 --> 00:52:37,991
like, okay, like selling drugs, you know,
1348
00:52:37,991 --> 00:52:41,870
you know, the-the pimps
and the prostitutes or whatever it is,
1349
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:44,414
or whatever is going on
in the hood, you know, color--
1350
00:52:44,414 --> 00:52:45,958
What's the objective?
1351
00:52:45,958 --> 00:52:47,918
Um, the objective is to,
1352
00:52:47,918 --> 00:52:50,379
to provide the type of music
for everybody.
1353
00:52:50,379 --> 00:52:52,256
So now is this more instrumental?
1354
00:52:52,256 --> 00:52:53,131
CHRIS:
It's instrumental, yeah.
1355
00:52:53,131 --> 00:52:57,469
We got some, some artists
wanting to, you know, put dibs in on,
1356
00:52:57,469 --> 00:53:00,055
you know,
who the first rapper or singer is.
1357
00:53:00,055 --> 00:53:01,348
But it's clean?
1358
00:53:01,348 --> 00:53:03,725
It's clean,
but there'll probably be some,
1359
00:53:03,725 --> 00:53:05,561
you know, slightly dirty raunchy moments,
1360
00:53:05,561 --> 00:53:07,646
because we don't wanna leave that out.
1361
00:53:07,646 --> 00:53:11,024
It's a, it's a part of what's going on
in-in our world right now.
1362
00:53:11,024 --> 00:53:13,819
Okay, are, are these negative, degrading?
1363
00:53:13,819 --> 00:53:19,783
No. Um, I guess if you call, you know,
partying, having a good time, you know.
1364
00:53:19,783 --> 00:53:21,577
MR. COLN: You ain't referencing
no drugs or nothin' like that.
1365
00:53:21,577 --> 00:53:23,579
Nah, I wouldn't,
I wouldn't put drugs in there,
1366
00:53:23,579 --> 00:53:25,330
but I would definitely want the songs--
1367
00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:26,540
If somebody was to put lyrics on it,
1368
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:29,918
I would want it to be about
living your life, having fun.
1369
00:53:29,918 --> 00:53:32,171
Yep, and we gotta keep jazz in there.
1370
00:53:32,171 --> 00:53:33,839
That's what I didn't
wanna leave out at all.
1371
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:35,424
And you can write this on paper now?
1372
00:53:35,424 --> 00:53:36,550
CHRIS:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
1373
00:53:36,550 --> 00:53:38,510
[chuckles] We learned that,
yeah, we learned that in high school.
1374
00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:39,761
Okay, now.
CHRIS: We learned that.
1375
00:53:40,429 --> 00:53:42,181
Put it on paper, you know, okay.
CHRIS: Yeah, we put it on paper.
1376
00:53:42,181 --> 00:53:43,140
We could write it out.
1377
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:45,309
MR. COLN:
Chris was like a isolated person,
1378
00:53:45,934 --> 00:53:47,811
and he was real quiet, laid back,
1379
00:53:47,811 --> 00:53:50,689
and I noticed him one day
he was banging on the piano,
1380
00:53:50,689 --> 00:53:52,983
and I'm going,
"Well, what are you playing?"
1381
00:53:52,983 --> 00:53:55,652
I was playing
Brian McKnight, um, Anytime.
1382
00:53:55,652 --> 00:53:57,738
♪ vocalizing ♪
1383
00:53:57,738 --> 00:54:00,282
The females be like,
"Oh, my God, this is my song!
1384
00:54:00,282 --> 00:54:01,366
Oh, my God, oh, my God."
1385
00:54:01,366 --> 00:54:02,409
They would come to the piano.
1386
00:54:02,409 --> 00:54:04,286
And he came up, he was like,
1387
00:54:04,286 --> 00:54:06,872
"Alright, Mr. Moten,
you feel like you wanna show off?
1388
00:54:06,872 --> 00:54:08,832
You think you this,
that and the other, alright."
1389
00:54:08,832 --> 00:54:13,003
And he put a blank piece
of staff paper in front of me
1390
00:54:13,003 --> 00:54:14,713
and he was like,
"Alright, since you think
1391
00:54:14,713 --> 00:54:16,715
"you're big and bad then," you know,
1392
00:54:17,132 --> 00:54:18,842
you know,
"Why don't you write out the last
1393
00:54:18,842 --> 00:54:20,511
four measures of what you played?"
1394
00:54:20,511 --> 00:54:21,678
What I told Chris, said, "Look.
1395
00:54:21,678 --> 00:54:23,597
"You know where the keys
are on the keyboards.
1396
00:54:23,597 --> 00:54:25,224
"You just gotta be able to transpose
1397
00:54:25,224 --> 00:54:27,476
what's on that paper
to what your fingers are doing."
1398
00:54:27,476 --> 00:54:30,103
I think I almost cried but I didn't.
1399
00:54:30,103 --> 00:54:31,355
I was mad though,
1400
00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:32,523
because even the girls,
1401
00:54:32,523 --> 00:54:35,108
it was looking like, [clicks tongue]
"Well, you can't write music,
1402
00:54:35,108 --> 00:54:36,818
you're not that fly," you know.
1403
00:54:36,818 --> 00:54:38,987
"You're not that dope,
you're not that cute."
1404
00:54:38,987 --> 00:54:42,324
From then on I started learning,
like, everything I could.
1405
00:54:42,324 --> 00:54:43,408
Let me hear some of this.
1406
00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:45,244
I got, like, my single
that you can hear.
1407
00:54:45,244 --> 00:54:46,828
♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪
1408
00:54:46,828 --> 00:54:48,997
♪ Boot Up by Cassius Jay playing ♪
1409
00:54:48,997 --> 00:54:50,374
♪ upbeat trumpet note plays ♪
1410
00:54:50,374 --> 00:54:51,208
This the melody.
1411
00:54:51,208 --> 00:54:54,002
♪
1412
00:54:54,002 --> 00:54:55,087
Still got the trap beat.
1413
00:54:55,087 --> 00:54:55,921
♪
1414
00:54:55,921 --> 00:54:58,549
Now this is not really jazzy,
but it's just a hint of it.
1415
00:54:58,549 --> 00:55:01,426
What about after that, that keyboard,
supposed to be a jazz mix?
1416
00:55:01,426 --> 00:55:04,054
That's my jazz mix,
but it symphs so we gonna keep it light.
1417
00:55:04,054 --> 00:55:04,888
MR. COLN:
Okay.
1418
00:55:04,888 --> 00:55:06,849
And then we're gonna
really go into the jazzin'.
1419
00:55:06,849 --> 00:55:10,686
Having the chance to show him
what I came up with,
1420
00:55:10,686 --> 00:55:13,730
and, like, you know, that was kinda scary.
1421
00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:16,775
♪ piano notes
and soft jazz tones playing ♪
1422
00:55:16,775 --> 00:55:18,277
Look at his face.
1423
00:55:18,277 --> 00:55:19,570
- [laughter]
- Wait a minute, now hold it.
1424
00:55:19,570 --> 00:55:21,113
- CHRIS: This me.
- This you?
1425
00:55:21,113 --> 00:55:23,198
♪ piano and percussion notes crescendo ♪
1426
00:55:23,198 --> 00:55:26,159
♪ tempo increases, recedes ♪
1427
00:55:26,785 --> 00:55:28,287
Man, blues changes, man.
CHRIS: Watch this.
1428
00:55:28,287 --> 00:55:31,123
♪ peppy dance jazz music playing ♪
1429
00:55:31,123 --> 00:55:31,999
We're not there yet.
1430
00:55:31,999 --> 00:55:32,833
♪
1431
00:55:32,833 --> 00:55:34,960
♪ Chris humming trombone notes ♪
1432
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,003
♪ fast-paced trombone
and light percussion music playing ♪
1433
00:55:36,003 --> 00:55:37,796
Those are all jazz mix playing.
1434
00:55:37,796 --> 00:55:39,339
[laughter]
1435
00:55:39,339 --> 00:55:40,174
Whoa!
1436
00:55:40,174 --> 00:55:41,508
Well done.
1437
00:55:41,508 --> 00:55:42,551
♪
1438
00:55:42,551 --> 00:55:44,970
Those are all jazz licks
that stay true to jazz.
1439
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:45,804
♪ upbeat trumpet note plays ♪
1440
00:55:45,804 --> 00:55:47,347
Now we go back to the,
1441
00:55:47,347 --> 00:55:50,809
two, three, four, one,
two, three, four. [laughs]
1442
00:55:50,809 --> 00:55:53,478
- One, two, three, four. One, hey.
- No, wait a minute.
1443
00:55:53,478 --> 00:55:56,857
And he was happy to know
that not only was I doing jazz,
1444
00:55:56,857 --> 00:55:59,735
but I'm doing something
that works in this era.
1445
00:55:59,735 --> 00:56:01,361
Anybody can listen to this, man.
1446
00:56:01,361 --> 00:56:02,404
- CHRIS: Anybody.
- It can go anywhere.
1447
00:56:02,404 --> 00:56:04,323
CHRIS: That's-that's
the biggest thing about it, man.
1448
00:56:04,323 --> 00:56:07,201
Be classy and still a little bit raunchy
1449
00:56:07,201 --> 00:56:08,744
- and hood a little bit, you know? [laughs]
- Yeah.
1450
00:56:09,536 --> 00:56:11,038
That will sell.
CHRIS: Yeah.
1451
00:56:11,038 --> 00:56:15,334
I really wanted to make sure
that the old heads would, like, approve.
1452
00:56:15,334 --> 00:56:17,419
It feels good for them to say,
1453
00:56:18,086 --> 00:56:19,254
"This is gonna work."
1454
00:56:19,254 --> 00:56:22,674
♪ Boot Up by Cassius Jay playing ♪
1455
00:56:22,674 --> 00:56:27,763
♪
1456
00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:31,892
I like the idea of almost
a little commercial things in there.
1457
00:56:31,892 --> 00:56:32,726
Yes. Yes.
1458
00:56:32,726 --> 00:56:35,687
- That'll keep you on your toes, you know.
- Yes, yeah.
1459
00:56:35,687 --> 00:56:38,315
JOHNNY KNAPP:
And then also you gotta get something
1460
00:56:38,315 --> 00:56:42,277
that can get into a groove
so that women dance.
1461
00:56:42,277 --> 00:56:43,111
Yes.
1462
00:56:43,111 --> 00:56:46,114
If women get involved,
guys get involved.
1463
00:56:46,114 --> 00:56:46,949
STIXX:
Yes, sir.
1464
00:56:46,949 --> 00:56:49,743
If there's a girl around,
there's a guy around.
1465
00:56:49,743 --> 00:56:53,539
- STIXX: Yes.
- And if the girl likes to dance to it,
1466
00:56:53,539 --> 00:56:54,540
then you're on your way.
1467
00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:55,999
[patrons cheering]
1468
00:56:55,999 --> 00:56:58,126
♪ Boot Up intro by Cassius Jay playing ♪
1469
00:56:58,126 --> 00:57:01,046
♪
1470
00:57:01,046 --> 00:57:04,508
♪ soft whistling ♪
1471
00:57:04,508 --> 00:57:06,426
♪
1472
00:57:06,426 --> 00:57:07,719
♪ It's strip club music ♪
1473
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:08,679
♪ Gotta play Cassius ♪
1474
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:13,350
♪
1475
00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:15,143
[cheering]
1476
00:57:15,143 --> 00:57:17,771
♪
1477
00:57:17,771 --> 00:57:20,357
CASSIUS: Strippers play
a real big role in trap music
1478
00:57:20,357 --> 00:57:22,234
because without the strippers,
1479
00:57:22,234 --> 00:57:24,194
the DJs wouldn't even know
about certain songs.
1480
00:57:24,695 --> 00:57:26,280
So, when I used to make trap music,
1481
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,906
first thing I used to do is get my song,
1482
00:57:27,906 --> 00:57:30,242
I mixed it, took it to the strip club
1483
00:57:30,242 --> 00:57:31,910
and all the strippers
started dancing to it.
1484
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:39,418
♪
1485
00:57:39,418 --> 00:57:43,172
If you could get a girl
to shake that ass to your music,
1486
00:57:43,172 --> 00:57:44,506
you got a hit.
1487
00:57:44,506 --> 00:57:45,674
♪
1488
00:57:45,674 --> 00:57:48,510
That was weird to see them
dancing off Boot Up at a strip club.
1489
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:49,928
But it was that trap shit.
1490
00:57:50,345 --> 00:57:52,514
So it's like,
"Whoa, we got a hit then, goddamn,
1491
00:57:52,514 --> 00:57:53,599
we can run with this one."
1492
00:57:53,599 --> 00:58:05,986
♪
1493
00:58:05,986 --> 00:58:06,945
GUITARIST:
That has it.
1494
00:58:06,945 --> 00:58:07,988
♪ drumbeats ♪
1495
00:58:07,988 --> 00:58:09,531
This is the first,
this is the first time
1496
00:58:09,531 --> 00:58:10,699
everybody's about to play together.
1497
00:58:10,699 --> 00:58:13,827
♪
1498
00:58:13,827 --> 00:58:16,413
CHRIS:
I'm definitely not prepared for Tuesday.
1499
00:58:16,413 --> 00:58:17,664
We're prepared musically.
1500
00:58:17,664 --> 00:58:19,333
We know what we wanna do.
1501
00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:22,294
But the-the biggest preparation of all is
1502
00:58:22,294 --> 00:58:23,921
in the rehearsal.
1503
00:58:23,921 --> 00:58:25,005
Don't fuck around, man.
1504
00:58:25,005 --> 00:58:26,798
I'm not, I don't-- I don't bullshit.
1505
00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:28,717
I don't bullshit like that.
1506
00:58:29,301 --> 00:58:30,385
I don't bullshit like that.
1507
00:58:30,385 --> 00:58:34,264
So... so I'll do the first one,
you do the second one,
1508
00:58:34,264 --> 00:58:36,016
you can do the third one. Hey.
1509
00:58:36,016 --> 00:58:38,393
♪ playing fast-paced notes ♪
1510
00:58:38,393 --> 00:58:40,187
Right there. Right there.
1511
00:58:40,187 --> 00:58:41,230
Let's pace that right there.
1512
00:58:41,230 --> 00:58:45,317
♪ piano notes crescendo ♪
1513
00:58:45,317 --> 00:58:46,276
Ah, hey!
1514
00:58:46,276 --> 00:58:50,155
♪ notes grow louder ♪
1515
00:58:50,155 --> 00:58:50,989
Hey.
1516
00:58:50,989 --> 00:58:52,991
I feel a little bit detached, like,
1517
00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:58,288
you know, it's so hard to get
these guys in one room,
1518
00:58:58,288 --> 00:59:00,749
one rehearsal, one stage.
1519
00:59:00,749 --> 00:59:02,543
STIXX:
Getting all the songs together,
1520
00:59:02,543 --> 00:59:04,628
arranging these songs,
getting all the material together,
1521
00:59:04,628 --> 00:59:05,879
getting the band together,
1522
00:59:05,879 --> 00:59:09,132
still trying to do
whatever we have to do individually
1523
00:59:09,132 --> 00:59:11,218
in between rehearsals
and make rehearsals work.
1524
00:59:11,218 --> 00:59:13,554
You know, setting up studio sessions,
1525
00:59:13,554 --> 00:59:15,305
trying to get ahold of Cassius, you know.
1526
00:59:15,973 --> 00:59:18,058
Getting his busy schedule,
getting my schedule,
1527
00:59:18,058 --> 00:59:19,601
getting Chris' schedule together,
you know.
1528
00:59:19,601 --> 00:59:23,063
Chris flying in and out
of the state doing tour shows
1529
00:59:23,063 --> 00:59:25,482
and preparing for this as well.
1530
00:59:25,482 --> 00:59:26,483
It's a lot of stress
1531
00:59:26,483 --> 00:59:28,735
and, you know,
and a lot that comes with it.
1532
00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:30,362
Five, six, seven, unh!
1533
00:59:30,362 --> 00:59:34,908
♪
1534
00:59:34,908 --> 00:59:36,618
CHRIS:
The magic is when we come together
1535
00:59:36,618 --> 00:59:39,329
and find the vibe
and the correct chemistry
1536
00:59:39,329 --> 00:59:40,747
to give 'em a great show.
1537
00:59:40,747 --> 00:59:44,084
♪ high-pitched percussion music
joins guitar solo ♪
1538
00:59:44,084 --> 00:59:46,211
♪
1539
00:59:46,211 --> 00:59:47,713
♪ music ends ♪
1540
00:59:48,881 --> 00:59:50,424
♪
1541
00:59:50,424 --> 00:59:53,552
[indistinct conversations]
[laughter]
1542
00:59:53,552 --> 00:59:58,515
♪
1543
00:59:58,515 --> 01:00:00,601
FAN 1: Man, I'm always down
to hear good live music.
1544
01:00:00,601 --> 01:00:02,394
So just to hear some people's shit,
1545
01:00:02,394 --> 01:00:04,813
it's always really inspiring to me.
1546
01:00:04,813 --> 01:00:06,023
FAN 2:
I'm here to see the band,
1547
01:00:06,023 --> 01:00:07,774
I'm here to see Devon, really.
1548
01:00:07,774 --> 01:00:09,193
I wanna see them get down a little bit.
1549
01:00:09,985 --> 01:00:12,696
FAN 3: Trap and jazz?
Okay, let's see what this is about.
1550
01:00:12,696 --> 01:00:13,739
I mean, I really don't know.
1551
01:00:13,739 --> 01:00:15,741
These boys are some of
the most talented boys in the city.
1552
01:00:15,741 --> 01:00:19,328
♪
1553
01:00:19,328 --> 01:00:20,412
[people cheering]
1554
01:00:20,412 --> 01:00:22,497
♪
1555
01:00:22,497 --> 01:00:24,249
[indistinct chatter]
1556
01:00:24,249 --> 01:00:29,588
♪
1557
01:00:29,588 --> 01:00:30,714
[inaudible dialogue]
1558
01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:32,382
How y'all feeling tonight, man?
1559
01:00:32,382 --> 01:00:33,217
[crowd cheers]
1560
01:00:33,217 --> 01:00:34,885
Yeah.
1561
01:00:37,304 --> 01:00:39,056
♪ uplifting trombone music playing ♪
1562
01:00:39,056 --> 01:00:55,489
♪
1563
01:00:55,489 --> 01:00:57,991
♪ music intensifies ♪
1564
01:00:57,991 --> 01:01:02,663
♪
1565
01:01:02,663 --> 01:01:03,789
♪ rapid drumbeats ♪
1566
01:01:03,789 --> 01:01:05,666
♪ maracas join music ♪
1567
01:01:05,666 --> 01:01:10,170
♪
1568
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:11,839
♪ fast-paced piano notes join music ♪
1569
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:14,550
♪ powerful drumbeating ♪
1570
01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:27,980
♪
1571
01:01:27,980 --> 01:01:29,314
♪ jazzy trombone notes join music ♪
1572
01:01:29,314 --> 01:01:30,899
[loud boom, electricity surges]
♪ music stops ♪
1573
01:01:30,899 --> 01:01:32,192
[indistinct yelling]
1574
01:01:32,192 --> 01:01:33,986
CHRIS [on microphone]:
Yeah, and we already knew it,
1575
01:01:33,986 --> 01:01:35,487
and we already knew it,
1576
01:01:35,904 --> 01:01:37,573
and we already knew it,
1577
01:01:38,323 --> 01:01:39,867
and we already knew it.
1578
01:01:39,867 --> 01:01:40,951
♪ upbeat drum music plays ♪
1579
01:01:40,951 --> 01:01:42,327
♪ music fades ♪
1580
01:01:42,327 --> 01:01:44,997
[indistinct chatter]
1581
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,041
STIXX:
Stuff wasn't right.
1582
01:01:48,041 --> 01:01:50,169
We still didn't have, like,
a lot of the songs together.
1583
01:01:50,169 --> 01:01:52,629
Like, we still having patch issues
1584
01:01:52,629 --> 01:01:54,882
and power issues and shit like that.
1585
01:01:54,882 --> 01:01:57,384
♪ loud uplifting trombone music playing ♪
1586
01:01:57,384 --> 01:01:59,887
That sounds like the loudest it's been.
1587
01:01:59,887 --> 01:02:02,139
♪ percussion trilling ♪
1588
01:02:02,139 --> 01:02:03,307
CASSIUS:
Chris got his own mind.
1589
01:02:03,891 --> 01:02:05,559
That night I kept saying,
1590
01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:08,187
"Chris, like you see this shit fucking up,
1591
01:02:08,187 --> 01:02:09,521
let's go to the next song."
1592
01:02:10,272 --> 01:02:11,565
So I get irritated.
1593
01:02:11,565 --> 01:02:12,774
He know I get irritated.
1594
01:02:12,774 --> 01:02:13,650
I'll be ready to fight.
1595
01:02:13,650 --> 01:02:15,027
Like, man, I'm finna
pop you in your mouth, bro,
1596
01:02:15,027 --> 01:02:16,069
if you don't listen to me.
1597
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:18,488
Which I won't do it
because he's my brother and I love him,
1598
01:02:18,488 --> 01:02:20,657
but he irritates the fuck outta me.
1599
01:02:21,825 --> 01:02:25,996
CHRIS: I don't remember much about
the beginning of that actually.
1600
01:02:25,996 --> 01:02:28,790
I don't. I was, like,
having fun, I was lit,
1601
01:02:28,790 --> 01:02:31,210
so I was outta there, like--
1602
01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:32,920
[laughing] Chris was lit.
1603
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,881
That's why we was frustrated, too.
1604
01:02:35,881 --> 01:02:38,550
'Cause that nigga was so lit, bro.
1605
01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,469
Devon says Chris looked at him,
1606
01:02:40,469 --> 01:02:44,223
and says, "Devon give me a-a-a drumbeat."
1607
01:02:44,681 --> 01:02:46,767
And says,
"Chris, start rolling up a blunt."
1608
01:02:46,767 --> 01:02:48,477
[laughs]
1609
01:02:49,853 --> 01:02:52,231
Y'all make noise,
real quick, make some noise.
1610
01:02:52,231 --> 01:02:54,900
♪ upbeat music playing ♪
1611
01:02:54,900 --> 01:03:01,114
♪
1612
01:03:01,114 --> 01:03:03,659
[indistinct yelling]
1613
01:03:03,659 --> 01:03:05,786
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
1614
01:03:07,287 --> 01:03:08,664
- [audience whooping]
- What's up, guys?
1615
01:03:08,664 --> 01:03:09,414
Y'all make some noise.
1616
01:03:09,414 --> 01:03:10,499
Make some noise. Make some noise.
1617
01:03:10,499 --> 01:03:12,376
[audience cheering]
1618
01:03:14,044 --> 01:03:18,507
So, let's go back to the repeat.
1619
01:03:19,591 --> 01:03:22,845
Go out-- Jordan, I need
something from Jordan.
1620
01:03:22,845 --> 01:03:24,471
[sings] ♪ Bye, bye ♪
1621
01:03:24,471 --> 01:03:26,431
You, shot.
1622
01:03:26,431 --> 01:03:27,307
Jordan.
1623
01:03:27,307 --> 01:03:30,018
STIXX:
Chris treated it like a live recording.
1624
01:03:30,018 --> 01:03:31,979
You know, every time he heard
something wrong he was like,
1625
01:03:31,979 --> 01:03:33,188
"Nope, come on, man.
1626
01:03:33,188 --> 01:03:34,940
You know we taping,
we gotta get it right."
1627
01:03:35,732 --> 01:03:37,568
Oh, yeah, it, it was a lot of frustration.
1628
01:03:37,568 --> 01:03:40,779
The frustration came from everybody
losing sight of the music.
1629
01:03:40,779 --> 01:03:43,866
♪ intense drum music playing ♪
1630
01:03:43,866 --> 01:03:46,410
Ready for the singing, man?
Sing, sing. Go ahead.
1631
01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:49,705
♪ intense drum music playing ♪
1632
01:03:49,705 --> 01:04:07,181
♪
1633
01:04:07,181 --> 01:04:08,265
[people cheering]
1634
01:04:08,265 --> 01:04:09,641
CASSIUS:
We all had a conversation afterwards
1635
01:04:10,184 --> 01:04:11,685
and we all shared our opinions,
1636
01:04:12,436 --> 01:04:14,229
and me and Devon was on the same page.
1637
01:04:15,022 --> 01:04:17,149
Chris, "You guys sound amazing."
1638
01:04:17,149 --> 01:04:18,275
That's what he said to me.
1639
01:04:18,275 --> 01:04:19,443
[laughs]
1640
01:04:19,443 --> 01:04:21,153
"You guys sound amazing."
1641
01:04:21,153 --> 01:04:22,738
That nigga Devon's like, "Nah."
1642
01:04:23,363 --> 01:04:26,158
When you see me smiling,
that's me smiling,
1643
01:04:26,158 --> 01:04:29,369
some of it's frustration but some of it's
just me looking at my brother like,
1644
01:04:29,369 --> 01:04:31,663
"This is a hard head joker right here."
1645
01:04:31,663 --> 01:04:33,498
But I love him, what can I do?
1646
01:04:33,498 --> 01:04:38,921
♪ light music playing ♪
1647
01:04:38,921 --> 01:04:40,881
♪
1648
01:04:40,881 --> 01:04:42,090
STIXX:
Man, listen, man,
1649
01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:44,760
I've been waiting for Chris
for about 30 minutes.
1650
01:04:45,260 --> 01:04:47,095
Listen, I'm about to get y'all--
1651
01:04:47,095 --> 01:04:48,764
Look, me and Cassius,
1652
01:04:48,764 --> 01:04:51,475
we about to call Chris one more time, man.
1653
01:04:51,475 --> 01:04:53,602
He probably ain't even gonna answer.
1654
01:04:53,602 --> 01:04:54,478
[line ringing]
1655
01:04:54,478 --> 01:04:55,812
STIXX:
He gonna text me back like, "I'm on--"
1656
01:04:55,812 --> 01:04:57,022
CASSIUS:
You know he a pretty boy.
1657
01:04:57,022 --> 01:05:00,651
STIXX: Of course. You know he gonna
take a hour to get ready.
1658
01:05:00,651 --> 01:05:01,902
[ringing continues]
1659
01:05:04,321 --> 01:05:05,697
Nothing.
1660
01:05:05,697 --> 01:05:07,574
And he came. [laughs]
1661
01:05:07,574 --> 01:05:09,034
CASSIUS: And he gonna
try come in with water and shit.
1662
01:05:09,034 --> 01:05:11,036
STIXX: Look at him.
Wait, with cookie? [laughs]
1663
01:05:11,036 --> 01:05:12,454
Hungry, boy.
STIXX: What's up, bro?
1664
01:05:12,454 --> 01:05:13,580
- How you doing?
- Straight.
1665
01:05:13,580 --> 01:05:14,957
- What up, baby?
- What up, bro? You good?
1666
01:05:14,957 --> 01:05:15,916
- Yeah, bro.
- Good to see you.
1667
01:05:15,916 --> 01:05:16,917
Good to see you, too, nigga.
1668
01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:19,628
All good?
STIXX: Yeah.
1669
01:05:20,170 --> 01:05:21,338
So what y'all out here talking about?
1670
01:05:21,338 --> 01:05:23,507
STIXX: Damn, you,
and David being late. [laughs]
1671
01:05:23,507 --> 01:05:24,383
I was asleep, man.
1672
01:05:24,383 --> 01:05:26,718
STIXX:
What's up, man? What we doing, man?
1673
01:05:26,718 --> 01:05:28,011
What we gotta do to put this project out?
1674
01:05:28,011 --> 01:05:31,181
Cassius is trying to
drop it on December 30th,
1675
01:05:31,181 --> 01:05:32,724
whether we like it or not.
1676
01:05:32,724 --> 01:05:34,685
That's cool, 'cause I wanna
do a show in Atlanta.
1677
01:05:34,685 --> 01:05:36,395
They kept asking me
why the album ain't done. I tried askin'--
1678
01:05:36,395 --> 01:05:37,437
STIXX:
They kept asking both of us,
1679
01:05:37,437 --> 01:05:39,439
"What's-what's, what's taking so long?"
Like, you feel me?
1680
01:05:39,439 --> 01:05:40,941
- Oh. So--
- Like, yeah, that's what--
1681
01:05:40,941 --> 01:05:42,609
Like, fans wanna know
where the album at.
1682
01:05:42,609 --> 01:05:44,695
I'm pretty sure
that the guys in the band
1683
01:05:44,695 --> 01:05:46,071
believe in Trap-- Trap Jazz,
1684
01:05:46,071 --> 01:05:48,240
but I'm pretty sure
outside of me, us three,
1685
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,826
it's not one of them that got
their heart and soul...
1686
01:05:50,826 --> 01:05:52,411
- STIXX: It's not priority.
- ...attached to it. Yeah.
1687
01:05:52,411 --> 01:05:53,662
CHRIS:
I cannot ask them
1688
01:05:53,662 --> 01:05:55,998
to always come to the studio for free.
1689
01:05:55,998 --> 01:05:57,207
- STIXX: No.
- You know, I'll wait for them.
1690
01:05:57,207 --> 01:05:58,709
Devon and I can.
1691
01:05:58,709 --> 01:05:59,543
I know he--
1692
01:05:59,543 --> 01:06:02,796
It's a different,
it's a different motivation in him
1693
01:06:02,796 --> 01:06:04,339
to-to make Trap Jazz happen.
1694
01:06:04,339 --> 01:06:07,342
And so Trap Jazz
ain't paying no $500 a day
1695
01:06:07,342 --> 01:06:10,429
to pay they thousand dollar rent
and $200 cell phone
1696
01:06:10,429 --> 01:06:12,264
and keep them fly every day,
1697
01:06:12,264 --> 01:06:15,100
then, you know, we gotta do what we
gotta do till we get there, you know.
1698
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,728
Okay, well, Cassius is saying
you just play everything yourself.
1699
01:06:17,728 --> 01:06:19,229
Play guitar and play horns yourself.
1700
01:06:19,229 --> 01:06:20,814
Nah, we can get guitar,
but horns and shit.
1701
01:06:20,814 --> 01:06:21,648
We gotta get out of guitar.
1702
01:06:21,648 --> 01:06:22,733
- Alright, we'll just get horn.
- Yeah, we can do that, too.
1703
01:06:22,733 --> 01:06:23,984
- You just play the horns yourself.
- Or maybe, maybe sax.
1704
01:06:23,984 --> 01:06:24,860
I know you can do horns.
1705
01:06:24,860 --> 01:06:28,071
I need three days at the studio,
time paid for, that's it.
1706
01:06:28,071 --> 01:06:29,198
And you gonna be there or nah?
1707
01:06:29,198 --> 01:06:31,450
Hell, yeah,
you talking about eight hours.
1708
01:06:32,618 --> 01:06:33,744
I'd know if I call Chris like,
1709
01:06:33,744 --> 01:06:35,871
"Chris, let's go make some beats."
1710
01:06:35,871 --> 01:06:37,372
Chris not gonna show up.
1711
01:06:37,372 --> 01:06:39,166
He's gonna have an excuse or something.
1712
01:06:39,166 --> 01:06:41,585
I know my brother so I let him be him.
1713
01:06:41,585 --> 01:06:43,545
I respect him,
you notice I don't bother Chris.
1714
01:06:43,545 --> 01:06:46,840
I let, I let Chris be Chris
and I just do as much as I can for him.
1715
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,674
I support him.
1716
01:06:47,674 --> 01:06:51,094
I think I take it more seriously
than I should sometimes.
1717
01:06:51,094 --> 01:06:53,555
You know, like getting mad
that certain things is not happening
1718
01:06:53,555 --> 01:06:57,726
and, like, sometimes
I sit back and be crying, you know.
1719
01:06:57,726 --> 01:06:59,520
Because I'm thinking like, nigga, I'm 30--
1720
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,271
How come you don't never share
this frustration with me though?
1721
01:07:01,271 --> 01:07:02,523
I'm 32.
1722
01:07:02,523 --> 01:07:03,982
'Cause like it's-it's a matter of like--
1723
01:07:03,982 --> 01:07:05,901
You know, how we--
You know, where we came from.
1724
01:07:05,901 --> 01:07:06,777
You know.
1725
01:07:06,777 --> 01:07:08,654
My dad, your dad,
you know what they taught us.
1726
01:07:08,654 --> 01:07:09,530
- Right.
- You know what I'm saying?
1727
01:07:09,530 --> 01:07:10,614
We ain't no pussies,
1728
01:07:10,614 --> 01:07:11,782
we ain't no cry babies.
1729
01:07:11,782 --> 01:07:14,701
♪ light music playing ♪
1730
01:07:14,701 --> 01:07:16,954
♪
1731
01:07:18,205 --> 01:07:20,541
I'm capable of letting people down,
1732
01:07:20,541 --> 01:07:22,584
and I didn't like the way
that it felt at all,
1733
01:07:24,169 --> 01:07:26,088
because I remember what it felt like, too.
1734
01:07:26,088 --> 01:07:28,632
♪
1735
01:07:28,632 --> 01:07:31,552
With me and-and my father it was love.
1736
01:07:31,552 --> 01:07:34,596
I trusted him that his love
was gonna, gonna be there.
1737
01:07:34,596 --> 01:07:37,599
♪
1738
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:41,228
I always sat with him
at church on the organ.
1739
01:07:41,228 --> 01:07:42,729
I sat right next to him.
1740
01:07:43,647 --> 01:07:44,481
I wanted to be like him.
1741
01:07:44,481 --> 01:07:47,442
And the fact that I was playing like him
and sounded like him,
1742
01:07:47,442 --> 01:07:49,611
it really made me feel like
that was more of why,
1743
01:07:49,611 --> 01:07:52,906
you know, God chose him to
be my father and me to be his son
1744
01:07:52,906 --> 01:07:55,576
is that we have the same type of calling.
1745
01:07:55,576 --> 01:07:58,704
♪
1746
01:07:58,704 --> 01:08:00,414
I do remember being confused
1747
01:08:00,414 --> 01:08:03,458
and... and lashing out and sometimes,
1748
01:08:03,458 --> 01:08:06,587
and being, you know, outta control,
1749
01:08:06,587 --> 01:08:10,174
and... um,
1750
01:08:10,174 --> 01:08:12,593
you know, disrespecting my mother and--
1751
01:08:13,177 --> 01:08:15,846
Uh, but I was definitely angry that,
1752
01:08:17,181 --> 01:08:19,016
you know, my father wasn't there.
1753
01:08:19,975 --> 01:08:20,976
[clears throat]
1754
01:08:22,561 --> 01:08:24,521
Uh, 'cause you, yeah,
you want your father there, you know.
1755
01:08:24,521 --> 01:08:25,606
You want him to be there.
1756
01:08:26,398 --> 01:08:28,734
Um, so why he would lie and say
1757
01:08:29,401 --> 01:08:30,736
he's gonna be there if he's not?
1758
01:08:33,071 --> 01:08:35,324
Uh, that's pretty fucked up way to feel,
1759
01:08:36,116 --> 01:08:38,660
especially for your hero.
1760
01:08:39,369 --> 01:08:40,454
So who's next, you know?
1761
01:08:40,454 --> 01:08:41,830
Who else will I lose like that?
1762
01:08:41,830 --> 01:08:43,832
♪
1763
01:08:43,832 --> 01:08:47,878
That'll send you down a, a dark road
1764
01:08:47,878 --> 01:08:49,922
of beating yourself up
1765
01:08:51,089 --> 01:08:55,052
and, um, really refusing
to try something else
1766
01:08:55,052 --> 01:08:56,386
and try to go back at it.
1767
01:08:56,386 --> 01:09:00,265
♪
1768
01:09:00,265 --> 01:09:02,726
♪ gentle piano music playing ♪
1769
01:09:02,726 --> 01:09:04,728
NEWSCASTER:
His father was not around
1770
01:09:04,728 --> 01:09:06,605
when Christopher was a child...
1771
01:09:06,605 --> 01:09:07,856
♪
1772
01:09:07,856 --> 01:09:10,567
...and the family went through
years of intense hardship.
1773
01:09:10,567 --> 01:09:18,283
♪
1774
01:09:18,283 --> 01:09:19,660
CHRIS' MOM:
To watch Chris
1775
01:09:20,369 --> 01:09:22,788
go through the things
that he went through
1776
01:09:23,956 --> 01:09:26,333
as his mom I didn't wanna see that.
1777
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:27,584
I didn't know what to give him.
1778
01:09:27,584 --> 01:09:28,544
You know?
1779
01:09:28,544 --> 01:09:31,713
And sometimes he would just say,
"Just say a prayer."
1780
01:09:32,756 --> 01:09:38,136
♪
1781
01:09:38,136 --> 01:09:39,555
[thunder cracks]
1782
01:09:39,555 --> 01:09:41,598
CHRIS: You know, some of that love
that I'm supposed to be experiencing
1783
01:09:41,598 --> 01:09:42,975
with my father is not happening.
1784
01:09:42,975 --> 01:09:47,312
♪
1785
01:09:47,312 --> 01:09:49,982
I just held it in a lot, you know?
1786
01:09:49,982 --> 01:09:52,442
'Cause there was no way to deal with it.
1787
01:09:52,442 --> 01:09:53,944
[sound of a record scratching]
1788
01:09:53,944 --> 01:09:57,489
CHRIS: Can't fix it,
can't change it, so just let it be.
1789
01:09:57,489 --> 01:10:00,701
♪ piano music playing ♪
1790
01:10:00,701 --> 01:10:01,994
I'm not gonna let nobody see that.
1791
01:10:01,994 --> 01:10:04,204
I'm not gonna let anybody
experience that part of me.
1792
01:10:04,204 --> 01:10:06,623
Uh, you're not gonna be able
to manipulate that.
1793
01:10:06,623 --> 01:10:09,001
♪
1794
01:10:09,001 --> 01:10:11,044
You're not gonna be able
to know my downfalls
1795
01:10:11,044 --> 01:10:12,629
and know my anger and my issues
1796
01:10:12,629 --> 01:10:14,756
and then use it against me.
1797
01:10:15,215 --> 01:10:16,258
♪
1798
01:10:16,258 --> 01:10:17,885
CHRIS' MOM [voice breaking]:
I know that sometimes,
1799
01:10:18,969 --> 01:10:20,220
as human beings,
1800
01:10:20,220 --> 01:10:21,847
we have to go through some things
1801
01:10:22,973 --> 01:10:24,558
to cause us to be stronger,
1802
01:10:25,392 --> 01:10:27,811
to cause us to think differently.
1803
01:10:28,896 --> 01:10:32,441
It's hard to see
when it's your child going through,
1804
01:10:32,441 --> 01:10:34,776
but I know that it's all in his making.
1805
01:10:34,776 --> 01:10:36,653
♪
1806
01:10:36,653 --> 01:10:38,864
CASSIUS: I told Chris,
"Chris, you need to learn how to follow."
1807
01:10:38,864 --> 01:10:40,699
I said, "You don't listen."
1808
01:10:40,699 --> 01:10:44,286
They always say that to be a great leader,
1809
01:10:44,286 --> 01:10:46,079
you gotta be a great follower.
1810
01:10:46,496 --> 01:10:51,502
I don't know nobody Chris has followed.
1811
01:10:51,502 --> 01:10:54,129
♪
1812
01:10:54,129 --> 01:10:55,923
Chris is in his own world.
1813
01:10:55,923 --> 01:10:57,299
He is a hell of a musician,
1814
01:10:57,299 --> 01:10:59,301
but he-he gotta learn how to follow first.
1815
01:10:59,301 --> 01:11:15,442
♪
1816
01:11:16,944 --> 01:11:18,028
♪ dramatic finish ♪
1817
01:11:20,614 --> 01:11:26,411
♪ jazzy trumpet music playing ♪
1818
01:11:26,411 --> 01:11:29,790
♪
1819
01:11:29,790 --> 01:11:30,749
CHIEF XIAN:
Mm.
1820
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:33,710
CHRIS:
Yah! What's up, man?
1821
01:11:33,710 --> 01:11:34,795
What's up? How are you, man?
1822
01:11:34,795 --> 01:11:36,839
Christian Scott, I've been following him
1823
01:11:36,839 --> 01:11:39,508
for probably like two years,
um, had never met him.
1824
01:11:39,508 --> 01:11:42,719
He's very sensitive to what he's playing,
1825
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:44,805
and he doesn't just spit out a note
1826
01:11:44,805 --> 01:11:47,641
just, just to have sound or just to play,
1827
01:11:47,641 --> 01:11:48,976
which I do a lot.
1828
01:11:48,976 --> 01:11:51,228
And some other people,
we, we are still learning to do that.
1829
01:11:51,228 --> 01:11:53,522
I would definitely take
something like that from him
1830
01:11:53,522 --> 01:11:58,610
and, uh, that makes him to me
a really, really great, um, musician,
1831
01:11:58,610 --> 01:12:00,779
a strong force in the industry.
1832
01:12:00,779 --> 01:12:01,822
Yeah, what did you hear?
1833
01:12:02,364 --> 01:12:04,324
Well, so I was on YouTube
and saw some clips there.
1834
01:12:04,324 --> 01:12:06,243
- Okay, so probably like Boot Up.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1835
01:12:06,243 --> 01:12:09,162
- Mm-hmm.
- Maybe Red, that's all stuff--
1836
01:12:09,162 --> 01:12:10,163
No, Boot Up, definitely.
1837
01:12:10,163 --> 01:12:11,415
- Boot Up, definitely?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
1838
01:12:11,415 --> 01:12:12,249
What you think about it?
1839
01:12:12,249 --> 01:12:14,251
Man, it's dope,
but what you doing is like,
1840
01:12:14,251 --> 01:12:16,003
for me it's really important
in this moment.
1841
01:12:16,003 --> 01:12:17,588
- Yeah.
- To-to show the synergy
1842
01:12:17,588 --> 01:12:20,090
between those cultural spaces
within a cultural space.
1843
01:12:20,090 --> 01:12:21,675
- Yes. Yes, absolutely.
- You get what I'm saying?
1844
01:12:21,675 --> 01:12:24,636
I think a lot of times
people when they-they think of, um,
1845
01:12:24,636 --> 01:12:28,015
you know, what's going on right now
in the, the newer movement,
1846
01:12:28,015 --> 01:12:30,392
they like to separate those cultures as if
1847
01:12:30,392 --> 01:12:32,519
- they're like mutually exclusive things.
- Yes.
1848
01:12:32,519 --> 01:12:34,855
- Right.
- And, um, and it's the same people.
1849
01:12:34,855 --> 01:12:38,400
So, so finding a way to sort of
to speak through generations
1850
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,736
and context within a culture
is really important.
1851
01:12:40,736 --> 01:12:42,154
So I'm glad about what you're doing.
1852
01:12:42,154 --> 01:12:46,700
When I listen to trap music,
and I listen to Elvin Jones,
1853
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:48,452
I can hear that those rhythms,
1854
01:12:48,452 --> 01:12:50,913
all of those things
are West African rhythms.
1855
01:12:50,913 --> 01:12:55,042
To me I know
that ancestral recall exists, right?
1856
01:12:55,042 --> 01:12:55,876
That's a real thing.
1857
01:12:55,876 --> 01:12:57,544
It's more than the color of your eyes
1858
01:12:57,544 --> 01:12:59,546
that's being rewritten
when you're brought here.
1859
01:12:59,546 --> 01:13:01,798
This is why people that were denied
1860
01:13:01,798 --> 01:13:03,634
the ability to play drums
1861
01:13:03,634 --> 01:13:06,887
still ended up being
so rhythmic 300, 400 years later.
1862
01:13:07,429 --> 01:13:10,516
♪ playing Boot Up on piano ♪
1863
01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:12,142
♪
1864
01:13:12,142 --> 01:13:13,769
CHIEF XIAN:
And then Summertime was like--
1865
01:13:13,769 --> 01:13:15,187
♪
1866
01:13:15,187 --> 01:13:18,273
♪ trumpet playing Summertime
joins piano ♪
1867
01:13:18,273 --> 01:13:44,508
♪
1868
01:13:44,508 --> 01:13:46,093
So it's all about these,
these two chords.
1869
01:13:46,093 --> 01:13:47,261
CHIEF XIAN:
Mm-hmm.
1870
01:13:47,261 --> 01:13:53,225
♪
1871
01:13:53,225 --> 01:13:55,352
Right. Exactly, right here. [laughs]
CHRIS: Yeah.
1872
01:13:55,352 --> 01:14:13,245
♪
1873
01:14:13,245 --> 01:14:14,079
Yeah.
1874
01:14:14,079 --> 01:14:17,499
♪
1875
01:14:17,499 --> 01:14:18,876
That's crazy.
PRODUCER: That's crazy.
1876
01:14:18,876 --> 01:14:19,710
That's sick.
CHRIS: Fuck!
1877
01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:21,378
But I mean-- Right?
1878
01:14:21,378 --> 01:14:22,296
So, so, so--
CHRIS: Damn it!
1879
01:14:22,296 --> 01:14:24,673
CHIEF XIAN: So the thing is,
I mean what we use all-- Summertime as a--
1880
01:14:24,673 --> 01:14:26,550
- We ain't lost nothing.
- As an example.
1881
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:28,844
The synergy between those spaces,
1882
01:14:28,844 --> 01:14:31,221
you don't have to look hard
to find those things
1883
01:14:31,221 --> 01:14:33,390
'cause the-the-the
cultural expression is still--
1884
01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:34,850
- Still there.
- It's still the same culture.
1885
01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:38,020
♪ trumpet music playing ♪
1886
01:14:38,020 --> 01:14:40,397
CHRIS: I wanted everybody
to be able to play this music.
1887
01:14:40,397 --> 01:14:41,773
It's more of an idea,
1888
01:14:41,773 --> 01:14:44,484
a movement for everybody to cling to
1889
01:14:44,484 --> 01:14:49,031
because we've always been
a part of the blues, gospel,
1890
01:14:49,031 --> 01:14:52,492
turning into jazz
and to rock and roll and to pop music,
1891
01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:54,870
rap, hip-hop, music all over the world.
1892
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:57,581
We need to be able to connect,
1893
01:14:57,581 --> 01:15:00,417
and everybody has their own idea
1894
01:15:00,417 --> 01:15:03,337
of how they want to contribute
their music to the world.
1895
01:15:03,962 --> 01:15:05,047
And this is just mine.
1896
01:15:05,047 --> 01:15:06,256
♪
1897
01:15:06,256 --> 01:15:07,799
♪ high-pitched trumpet music playing ♪
1898
01:15:07,799 --> 01:15:22,793
♪
1899
01:15:25,150 --> 01:15:29,071
♪
1900
01:15:32,741 --> 01:15:34,159
CHRIS:
I just found out we going on first,
1901
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:35,869
so we gotta light that bitch up, bro.
1902
01:15:35,869 --> 01:15:36,828
[Stixx speaking]
1903
01:15:38,163 --> 01:15:38,997
We gotta light it up.
1904
01:15:41,291 --> 01:15:43,544
CHRIS: I think it'll be an explosion
if we do it first, like--
1905
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,508
It'll be clean tight and then hit 'em.
1906
01:15:50,384 --> 01:15:55,514
We received a call to play
for Quincy's tribute in LA.
1907
01:15:55,514 --> 01:15:57,724
The call was crazy because prior to that
1908
01:15:57,724 --> 01:16:01,478
I was working on two or three
of Quincy Jones' songs,
1909
01:16:01,478 --> 01:16:04,898
and I was going to trap them out
like I did the other ones.
1910
01:16:04,898 --> 01:16:06,775
So, uh, when he called and he said,
1911
01:16:06,775 --> 01:16:08,777
"Man, just take some of his songs.
Just do what you do."
1912
01:16:08,777 --> 01:16:10,988
That was already crazy 'cause it lined up,
1913
01:16:10,988 --> 01:16:12,656
again, just like do what you love,
1914
01:16:12,656 --> 01:16:15,325
stay at it 'cause these opportunities
might just catch you
1915
01:16:15,325 --> 01:16:16,159
in the right time.
1916
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:18,495
STIXX:
It's gonna be an amazing time
1917
01:16:18,495 --> 01:16:21,582
because we mixing
our stuff with his music,
1918
01:16:21,582 --> 01:16:22,833
so it's gonna be cool.
1919
01:16:22,833 --> 01:16:26,503
Like, to do like, all of his hits,
but put our own spin on it,
1920
01:16:26,503 --> 01:16:27,671
which is the Trap Jazz.
1921
01:16:28,672 --> 01:16:29,548
CHRIS:
If you know me,
1922
01:16:29,548 --> 01:16:32,467
you know Quincy is like my favorite
from the beginning.
1923
01:16:32,467 --> 01:16:35,846
Just being in high school
and knowing that he was like,
1924
01:16:35,846 --> 01:16:38,015
the greatest musician
in the world, really.
1925
01:16:39,558 --> 01:16:42,269
Oh, yeah, Mr. Coln used to
always hype him up.
1926
01:16:42,269 --> 01:16:44,313
I mean, he talked about
a lot of other musicians,
1927
01:16:44,313 --> 01:16:46,023
but it seemed like
when he wanted us to, like,
1928
01:16:46,857 --> 01:16:48,984
really be inspired by somebody,
1929
01:16:50,194 --> 01:16:52,154
uh, he would always use Quincy.
1930
01:16:52,154 --> 01:16:56,742
Movies, TV, um, pop music,
1931
01:16:56,742 --> 01:16:59,369
jazz, old school, Frank Sinatra.
1932
01:16:59,369 --> 01:17:00,913
Like, damn!
1933
01:17:00,913 --> 01:17:02,664
How much was you working every day?
1934
01:17:02,664 --> 01:17:06,376
♪ playing hip-hop music ♪
1935
01:17:06,376 --> 01:17:07,669
CASSIUS:
I'm excited about it.
1936
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:11,089
Earlier I watched
the Quincy Jones documentary,
1937
01:17:11,089 --> 01:17:13,592
and got inspired to see
how much work he had done done
1938
01:17:13,592 --> 01:17:15,719
in such little time.
1939
01:17:15,719 --> 01:17:18,180
It made me wanna go back
to doing the trap jazz.
1940
01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:19,640
So Trap Jazz is--
1941
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,769
it wasn't paying me no money
so it just wasn't my focus.
1942
01:17:23,769 --> 01:17:27,356
But now me seeing
the bigger picture of it, it's my focus.
1943
01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:31,777
CHRIS:
Quincy is also, like, the definition
1944
01:17:31,777 --> 01:17:34,905
of, like, what you can do with potential.
1945
01:17:34,905 --> 01:17:37,115
Most people,
we never live up to our potential.
1946
01:17:37,115 --> 01:17:38,742
We never really reach it.
1947
01:17:39,826 --> 01:17:42,079
♪ upbeat music playing ♪
1948
01:17:42,079 --> 01:17:46,124
♪
1949
01:17:46,124 --> 01:17:47,918
He clearly would know
what the fuck I'm doing.
1950
01:17:47,918 --> 01:17:49,837
One, two, three, four.
1951
01:17:49,837 --> 01:17:51,547
[overlapping chatter]
1952
01:17:51,547 --> 01:17:53,549
CHRIS: He would know where I'm
comin' from and how I wanna do it,
1953
01:17:53,549 --> 01:17:54,466
and why I'm doing it.
1954
01:17:54,466 --> 01:17:56,510
He's gonna know that
'cause he comes from that.
1955
01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:58,470
[audience cheering]
1956
01:18:00,722 --> 01:18:02,349
[inaudible dialogue]
1957
01:18:03,392 --> 01:18:04,393
CHRIS:
For me to meet him,
1958
01:18:05,185 --> 01:18:06,436
that's really gonna be fun, man.
1959
01:18:06,436 --> 01:18:07,729
I can't wait for it.
1960
01:18:08,522 --> 01:18:10,023
And I'll just make sure
I'm not nervous though.
1961
01:18:11,108 --> 01:18:12,734
Make sure I'm relaxed enough.
1962
01:18:14,236 --> 01:18:17,114
A special inspiration
for me and our team
1963
01:18:17,114 --> 01:18:18,949
and our community is here tonight.
1964
01:18:18,949 --> 01:18:22,035
Ladies and gentlemen,
make some noise for Mr. Quincy Jones.
1965
01:18:22,035 --> 01:18:24,079
[audience cheering]
1966
01:18:26,164 --> 01:18:27,958
[inaudible dialogue]
1967
01:18:27,958 --> 01:18:30,294
Make some noise for Trap Jazz.
1968
01:18:30,294 --> 01:18:31,837
[cheering]
1969
01:18:32,462 --> 01:18:35,382
♪ upbeat trap jazz music playing ♪
1970
01:18:35,382 --> 01:19:02,367
♪
1971
01:19:02,367 --> 01:19:03,619
CHRIS:
I saw this moment.
1972
01:19:04,244 --> 01:19:05,579
A lot of people was trying to talk to him
1973
01:19:05,579 --> 01:19:07,831
but he was just looking
and just listening.
1974
01:19:07,831 --> 01:19:11,168
He heard that-- them drums,
and he heard the brass,
1975
01:19:11,168 --> 01:19:12,586
he heard his song,
but he heard it differently,
1976
01:19:13,337 --> 01:19:14,963
than probably he's ever heard it before.
1977
01:19:14,963 --> 01:19:25,224
♪
1978
01:19:25,224 --> 01:19:27,434
This is an original song called Boot Up.
1979
01:19:28,227 --> 01:19:30,020
Everybody say,"Boot Up!"
1980
01:19:30,020 --> 01:19:32,814
[crowd cheering]
1981
01:19:33,565 --> 01:19:36,235
♪ Boot Up playing ♪
1982
01:19:36,235 --> 01:20:07,850
♪
1983
01:20:07,850 --> 01:20:09,059
He saw the people jumping
1984
01:20:09,059 --> 01:20:11,103
and I think that made him
at least pay attention
1985
01:20:11,103 --> 01:20:13,313
and say,
"Oh, this is... this is different."
1986
01:20:13,814 --> 01:20:16,483
And I-- that's what I would
like to believe he was thinking.
1987
01:20:16,483 --> 01:20:18,151
Uh, so it was, it was mind blowing.
1988
01:20:18,861 --> 01:20:20,362
[indistinct chatter]
1989
01:20:20,737 --> 01:20:21,905
CHRIS:
Meeting him, talking to him,
1990
01:20:21,905 --> 01:20:24,157
having, like, fun conversation with him.
1991
01:20:24,157 --> 01:20:26,910
Him telling stories, like, it was crazy.
1992
01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:28,245
It was definitely mind-blowing.
1993
01:20:28,245 --> 01:20:30,247
I couldn't believe
that it was happening actually.
1994
01:20:30,247 --> 01:20:31,248
[inaudible dialogue]
1995
01:20:31,248 --> 01:20:32,165
That was--
1996
01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:36,753
That was a... a-a treasure, yeah.
1997
01:20:36,753 --> 01:20:38,172
I'll never forget that for sure.
1998
01:20:38,672 --> 01:20:40,007
First time.
1999
01:20:42,301 --> 01:20:45,637
STIXX: We're growing
as a group playing-wise a lot.
2000
01:20:45,637 --> 01:20:47,681
We about to start working
on some new music, too.
2001
01:20:48,473 --> 01:20:49,850
Like me, him and Cassius,
2002
01:20:49,850 --> 01:20:52,394
we actually was in the studio
not too long ago.
2003
01:20:52,394 --> 01:20:54,438
- We came up with some, some new stuff.
- New stuff.
2004
01:20:55,230 --> 01:20:57,733
STIXX: We still gotta get it
mixed and mastered, you feel me?
2005
01:20:57,733 --> 01:20:59,568
Like, we still mixing certain stuff.
2006
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,905
CHRIS: That's really all I'm doing
is editing drums right now.
2007
01:21:03,697 --> 01:21:05,407
I'm taking every little beat
2008
01:21:05,407 --> 01:21:08,285
and making sure it is where it need to be.
2009
01:21:09,077 --> 01:21:10,746
CASSIUS:
We haven't finished the album.
2010
01:21:10,746 --> 01:21:11,997
We ain't even shopped the deal.
2011
01:21:11,997 --> 01:21:13,165
We ain't even tried to shop the deal.
2012
01:21:13,790 --> 01:21:16,793
That's like, that's the first step
getting the deal for it.
2013
01:21:16,793 --> 01:21:18,670
So that's the beginning stage.
That's the good part.
2014
01:21:18,670 --> 01:21:20,714
But now we just gotta
get the album finished.
2015
01:21:20,714 --> 01:21:23,425
It's just up to Chris
to do his part, period.
2016
01:21:24,593 --> 01:21:27,846
♪ jazz music playing ♪
2017
01:21:27,846 --> 01:21:31,058
♪
2018
01:21:31,058 --> 01:21:32,059
CHRIS:
Hmm.
2019
01:21:32,059 --> 01:21:32,976
CHRIS' DAD:
Remember that one?
2020
01:21:32,976 --> 01:21:33,936
CHRIS:
Mm-hmm.
2021
01:21:33,936 --> 01:21:36,563
♪ gentle instrumental music playing ♪
2022
01:21:36,563 --> 01:21:42,402
♪
2023
01:21:42,402 --> 01:21:44,488
This is the first one?
This the first album?
2024
01:21:44,488 --> 01:21:45,322
CHRIS' DAD:
Mm-hmm.
2025
01:21:45,322 --> 01:21:46,448
Is the first one? Yeah.
2026
01:21:46,448 --> 01:21:49,368
You would play this one.
[laughs] Yeah.
2027
01:21:49,368 --> 01:21:51,578
- You like that one?
- Yeah, I remember this one.
2028
01:21:52,246 --> 01:21:53,997
CHRIS' DAD:
In the prison system,
2029
01:21:53,997 --> 01:21:55,874
I was fortunate enough to have
2030
01:21:55,874 --> 01:21:57,918
a lot of equipment given to me.
2031
01:21:57,918 --> 01:22:00,754
I had people that still believed in me,
2032
01:22:02,089 --> 01:22:04,842
and all I had to do was
ask for whatever I needed
2033
01:22:04,842 --> 01:22:08,053
and eventually I ended up
with a studio in prison.
2034
01:22:08,512 --> 01:22:12,224
I actually recorded
a gospel CD while in prison.
2035
01:22:13,183 --> 01:22:15,727
A lot of talented guys were in prison.
2036
01:22:15,727 --> 01:22:18,647
Some-- many of my friends are out now
2037
01:22:18,647 --> 01:22:19,982
and a lot of them will,
2038
01:22:19,982 --> 01:22:21,358
you know, they'll never get out,
2039
01:22:22,109 --> 01:22:25,362
or it'll be many more years
before they will get out.
2040
01:22:25,362 --> 01:22:27,322
But I take great pride in, um--
2041
01:22:27,322 --> 01:22:30,284
♪
2042
01:22:30,284 --> 01:22:31,368
[clears throat]
2043
01:22:32,202 --> 01:22:35,706
I take great pride in knowing that
I left something there for them.
2044
01:22:36,456 --> 01:22:40,586
My physical body left them after 20 years,
2045
01:22:40,586 --> 01:22:45,007
but I left things in place
where these guys can keep
2046
01:22:45,007 --> 01:22:48,510
polishing their gifts
and keep working hard.
2047
01:22:48,510 --> 01:22:50,262
Of course,
I know that's Amazing Grace.
2048
01:22:50,262 --> 01:22:52,055
But you didn't name anything
different though, right?
2049
01:22:52,055 --> 01:22:53,932
I decided to call it Grace Amazing.
2050
01:22:53,932 --> 01:22:55,642
Grace Amazing.
CHRIS' DAD: Mm-hmm.
2051
01:22:55,642 --> 01:22:56,560
Flipped it, okay.
2052
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,897
And, you-- Yeah, you had
limited equipment to work with,
2053
01:22:59,897 --> 01:23:01,440
whereas
2054
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:04,318
in most studios today
it's a, you know, big console.
2055
01:23:04,318 --> 01:23:06,737
- CHRIS' DAD: Oh, yeah, it was--
- A laptop, big computer.
2056
01:23:06,737 --> 01:23:07,571
CHRIS' DAD:
The bare minimum.
2057
01:23:07,571 --> 01:23:08,822
And then you played all the instruments.
2058
01:23:08,822 --> 01:23:10,866
You went from piano to the organ.
2059
01:23:10,866 --> 01:23:12,910
- To drums.
- Right. Well, I did all the music first.
2060
01:23:12,910 --> 01:23:13,744
You did the music first.
2061
01:23:13,744 --> 01:23:15,913
CHRIS' DAD:
I laid down, you know, each instrument.
2062
01:23:15,913 --> 01:23:17,456
CHRIS: Mm-hmm.
CHRIS' DAD: Uh--
2063
01:23:17,456 --> 01:23:19,041
It wasn't always right the first time,
2064
01:23:19,041 --> 01:23:21,001
but then you just do it over and over
till you get it right,
2065
01:23:21,001 --> 01:23:23,879
and then once I mix it down
to where I was satisfied,
2066
01:23:23,879 --> 01:23:25,172
then I would work on the vocals.
2067
01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:29,259
Grace Amazing was, uh,
I think one of the first songs
2068
01:23:29,259 --> 01:23:30,552
that I heard that you recorded.
2069
01:23:30,552 --> 01:23:31,386
CHRIS' DAD:
Mm-hmm.
2070
01:23:31,386 --> 01:23:33,555
CHRIS: And it wasn't like this,
it wasn't fully produced.
2071
01:23:33,555 --> 01:23:34,681
Oh, no.
CHRIS: No instruments.
2072
01:23:34,681 --> 01:23:37,559
Um, it was just you on piano.
2073
01:23:37,559 --> 01:23:40,145
And I remember learning it back to back,
2074
01:23:40,145 --> 01:23:42,689
me and Josh
just sitting back, rewinding it.
2075
01:23:42,689 --> 01:23:44,733
The little chord changes you would do.
CHRIS' DAD: Oh, yeah.
2076
01:23:44,733 --> 01:23:47,236
CHRIS: That was all, like,
you know, pfft, you know,
2077
01:23:47,236 --> 01:23:49,321
explosive to us, so--
2078
01:23:49,321 --> 01:23:51,907
You would always not really teach us,
2079
01:23:51,907 --> 01:23:54,243
- like, in a sense of like a teacher...
- Mm-hmm.
2080
01:23:54,243 --> 01:23:55,869
...or a professor.
2081
01:23:55,869 --> 01:24:00,666
You was really just giving us
your, your sound or your--
2082
01:24:01,416 --> 01:24:04,336
the elements that you would use,
you know, on chord changes.
2083
01:24:04,336 --> 01:24:05,963
Well, I always want you to understand
2084
01:24:05,963 --> 01:24:07,548
why I did what I did.
2085
01:24:07,548 --> 01:24:08,382
Hmm.
2086
01:24:08,382 --> 01:24:10,217
I always wanted you
to have your own style.
2087
01:24:10,217 --> 01:24:12,052
And it got to the point where
2088
01:24:12,052 --> 01:24:14,596
when I, when I got most of your moves down
2089
01:24:14,596 --> 01:24:17,099
and started playing 'em
the way you played 'em,
2090
01:24:17,099 --> 01:24:17,933
people would notice it.
2091
01:24:17,933 --> 01:24:19,226
- Mm-hmm.
- They would notice it.
2092
01:24:19,226 --> 01:24:21,061
Some people would come like
a mother in the church would come,
2093
01:24:21,061 --> 01:24:23,730
and say, "You know
you sound just like your daddy?"
2094
01:24:23,730 --> 01:24:26,358
I'm like, "You ain't heard
him play in 15 years,
2095
01:24:26,358 --> 01:24:27,526
how do you know that?"
CHRIS' DAD: 100 years. [laughs]
2096
01:24:27,526 --> 01:24:29,152
But there is that church sound...
2097
01:24:29,152 --> 01:24:30,445
- CHRIS' DAD: Absolutely.
- ...that I finally got down.
2098
01:24:30,445 --> 01:24:31,405
Yeah. [chuckles]
2099
01:24:31,405 --> 01:24:32,823
CHRIS' DAD:
I love to hear him play.
2100
01:24:33,282 --> 01:24:34,575
I enjoyed watching him play
2101
01:24:34,575 --> 01:24:37,578
and I was extremely proud
that this was my kid.
2102
01:24:37,578 --> 01:24:38,996
♪
2103
01:24:38,996 --> 01:24:40,622
I admire your durability.
2104
01:24:40,622 --> 01:24:41,456
Hmm.
2105
01:24:41,957 --> 01:24:44,960
You have endured a lot, a lot.
2106
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,963
- Uh, some your fault, some not your fault.
- Absolutely.
2107
01:24:47,963 --> 01:24:50,424
A lot of things you went through
I didn't want you to go through,
2108
01:24:51,550 --> 01:24:53,969
but I saw how you stuck in there.
2109
01:24:53,969 --> 01:24:56,305
I think that's gonna carry you a long way
2110
01:24:56,305 --> 01:24:57,514
because you're durable.
2111
01:24:57,514 --> 01:24:58,432
Hmm.
2112
01:24:58,432 --> 01:25:01,602
You, you know how to stick it out
even when it gets rough.
2113
01:25:01,602 --> 01:25:03,061
Of course I'm always on your side
2114
01:25:03,061 --> 01:25:05,355
- even when I tell you I'm not.
- Mm-hmm.
2115
01:25:05,355 --> 01:25:06,732
I'm always on your side.
2116
01:25:08,108 --> 01:25:08,984
Always.
2117
01:25:08,984 --> 01:25:10,027
That means a lot.
2118
01:25:11,028 --> 01:25:14,573
And I want better for you
than I ever had for myself.
2119
01:25:15,324 --> 01:25:17,993
And to me that's the evidence of real love
2120
01:25:17,993 --> 01:25:22,748
when you can celebrate
somebody else as if it were yourself.
2121
01:25:22,748 --> 01:25:26,376
- Mm.
- When you desire more of a person
2122
01:25:26,376 --> 01:25:27,711
than you desire for yourself.
2123
01:25:27,711 --> 01:25:29,379
You taught me how to be strong.
2124
01:25:29,379 --> 01:25:30,422
♪
2125
01:25:30,422 --> 01:25:33,509
You taught me how to stay focused.
2126
01:25:33,509 --> 01:25:34,968
♪
2127
01:25:34,968 --> 01:25:37,846
Even, uh, in the midst of things
that I'm going through today,
2128
01:25:39,139 --> 01:25:42,476
I can kinda look at you
and see how you stay focused.
2129
01:25:42,476 --> 01:25:44,228
Even when things are at their worst
2130
01:25:46,605 --> 01:25:47,689
you just keep going.
2131
01:25:49,942 --> 01:25:51,401
Before it is all said and done,
2132
01:25:51,401 --> 01:25:53,445
we doin' a album together.
2133
01:25:53,445 --> 01:25:54,321
Deal?
2134
01:25:55,531 --> 01:25:56,782
- After I get The Phantom.
- Deal?
2135
01:25:56,782 --> 01:25:58,909
After I get The Phantom, we'll do it.
2136
01:25:58,909 --> 01:26:00,285
[laughter]
2137
01:26:00,285 --> 01:26:01,453
We'll see about that.
2138
01:26:01,453 --> 01:26:02,287
Maybe we'll rent one,
2139
01:26:02,287 --> 01:26:04,748
I'll rent you one and we'll do the,
do the album that week.
2140
01:26:04,748 --> 01:26:05,582
[laughter]
2141
01:26:05,582 --> 01:26:12,297
♪
2142
01:26:12,297 --> 01:26:14,675
STIXX: I watched Chris change
over the past couple of years.
2143
01:26:14,675 --> 01:26:17,553
His music, his energy, his priorities,
2144
01:26:18,178 --> 01:26:20,806
he's getting older, like,
we not kids no more,
2145
01:26:20,806 --> 01:26:21,640
you know what I mean?
2146
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,559
Like, we ain't out here
just fuckin' around no more,
2147
01:26:23,559 --> 01:26:25,644
like, shit has to make sense.
2148
01:26:26,436 --> 01:26:30,399
CHRIS: I definitely learned to,
at least as much as I can,
2149
01:26:30,399 --> 01:26:33,068
try to show up
before everybody else in the band.
2150
01:26:33,068 --> 01:26:34,736
Not being there is, uh, keeping us
2151
01:26:34,736 --> 01:26:37,322
from making certain decisions
that were very important,
2152
01:26:37,322 --> 01:26:40,075
that I didn't realize
that they cared enough
2153
01:26:40,075 --> 01:26:41,994
for me to keep me in the loop about.
2154
01:26:43,537 --> 01:26:45,372
STIXX:
We got a show tonight, baby.
2155
01:26:45,831 --> 01:26:47,082
We on the way to the stu.
2156
01:26:52,671 --> 01:26:54,131
That's when the best shit comes.
2157
01:26:56,091 --> 01:26:57,050
Every time.
2158
01:26:57,050 --> 01:26:59,636
The pandemic, it had a bad effect,
2159
01:26:59,636 --> 01:27:01,805
but then it had a, a good effect, too.
2160
01:27:02,222 --> 01:27:06,435
I was able to get, like,
a lot of my own personal music done.
2161
01:27:06,435 --> 01:27:09,938
I wanna be one of those guys
when song come on, you go crazy,
2162
01:27:09,938 --> 01:27:11,356
but I made the song, you know.
2163
01:27:11,356 --> 01:27:14,026
Something that's gonna be here for forever
even when I'm long gone.
2164
01:27:14,568 --> 01:27:16,320
And I was able to spend time
with my daughter, too.
2165
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,947
I have a, I have a daughter now,
two daughters actually.
2166
01:27:18,947 --> 01:27:20,032
♪
2167
01:27:20,032 --> 01:27:20,991
[baby coos]
2168
01:27:20,991 --> 01:27:22,242
♪
2169
01:27:22,242 --> 01:27:25,495
STIXX: Our music is unique
and nobody else do it or duplicate it.
2170
01:27:25,495 --> 01:27:26,496
♪
2171
01:27:26,496 --> 01:27:28,749
If we get signed
to a major record label, cool.
2172
01:27:28,749 --> 01:27:31,418
If not, cool, we'll still be able
to do it independently, too.
2173
01:27:31,418 --> 01:27:32,753
♪
2174
01:27:32,753 --> 01:27:37,299
PRODUCER: If you could speak
to your 10-year-old self right now,
2175
01:27:37,299 --> 01:27:38,509
what would you say to him?
2176
01:27:38,509 --> 01:27:41,011
I would tell him, um, don't wait.
2177
01:27:41,970 --> 01:27:44,556
Don't wait for what everybody else thinks
2178
01:27:44,556 --> 01:27:45,933
that you should be doing.
2179
01:27:45,933 --> 01:27:47,392
Don't wait for your family.
2180
01:27:47,392 --> 01:27:51,021
Don't wait for people
who you thought were your friends.
2181
01:27:51,021 --> 01:27:53,106
Do it for yourself first,
2182
01:27:54,191 --> 01:27:56,193
and then try to help everybody else.
2183
01:27:56,193 --> 01:28:00,906
Everybody who knows me
knows that I don't want fame,
2184
01:28:00,906 --> 01:28:02,407
I just want it to be about music.
2185
01:28:03,033 --> 01:28:05,160
Got a new sound, you just gotta hear it.
2186
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,120
♪ gentle piano music playing ♪
2187
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,456
♪ upbeat drum music joins ♪
2188
01:28:09,456 --> 01:28:34,857
♪
2189
01:28:34,857 --> 01:28:37,067
I definitely want my legacy
to just be around
2190
01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:38,735
for like my children.
2191
01:28:38,735 --> 01:28:41,321
I used to go to the studio
and watch my dad
2192
01:28:41,321 --> 01:28:45,576
and be at shows where he used
to have me like on the Grammy.
2193
01:28:45,576 --> 01:28:46,743
♪
2194
01:28:46,743 --> 01:28:47,953
I want them to see that
2195
01:28:49,246 --> 01:28:51,999
you could do
whatever you pretty much wanna do.
2196
01:28:51,999 --> 01:28:59,381
♪
2197
01:28:59,381 --> 01:29:02,342
CASSIUS: Trap Jazz is,
it's gonna be real, real big, real huge.
2198
01:29:02,342 --> 01:29:03,677
There's no limits to it.
2199
01:29:03,677 --> 01:29:07,431
I think it's gonna probably be one of
the biggest things in the next five years.
2200
01:29:07,431 --> 01:29:10,392
It's gonna almost be like
how hip-hop was in Atlanta.
2201
01:29:10,392 --> 01:29:12,769
It's gonna take off and everybody
gonna start doing it their own ways.
2202
01:29:12,769 --> 01:29:14,855
♪
2203
01:29:14,855 --> 01:29:16,523
CHRIS:
I want people to really
2204
01:29:16,523 --> 01:29:18,775
enjoy music
with their heart and their soul
2205
01:29:18,775 --> 01:29:20,277
'cause music is very healing.
2206
01:29:20,903 --> 01:29:23,447
It's, uh, very spiritual,
it's very powerful.
2207
01:29:23,447 --> 01:29:25,240
If they can dance from it,
2208
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:29,119
if they can play the music
after losing someone
2209
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:30,954
or just in the moment.
2210
01:29:31,788 --> 01:29:33,790
I want to serve people musically.
2211
01:29:33,790 --> 01:29:36,168
♪
2212
01:29:36,168 --> 01:29:38,378
STIXX:
Really good music when it enters you,
2213
01:29:38,378 --> 01:29:41,173
it's like the one thing other than God
2214
01:29:41,173 --> 01:29:43,592
that can change the way you feel
without your permission.
2215
01:29:43,592 --> 01:29:46,136
♪
2216
01:29:46,136 --> 01:29:47,638
CHRIS' DAD:
That was new to me.
2217
01:29:47,638 --> 01:29:50,891
To see your child
doing what he was born to do,
2218
01:29:52,226 --> 01:29:53,560
to see him absolutely...
2219
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,354
♪
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01:29:55,354 --> 01:29:56,188
...free.
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01:29:56,188 --> 01:30:01,109
♪
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01:30:09,034 --> 01:30:10,744
PRODUCER:
Whoo! And cut.
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01:30:11,286 --> 01:30:12,371
CHRIS:
That'll work.
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01:30:13,038 --> 01:30:15,249
MAN: Play-play-play this record
as frequently as--
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01:30:15,249 --> 01:30:18,418
[record fades]
♪ upbeat music playing ♪
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01:30:18,418 --> 01:30:20,796
♪
2227
01:31:39,583 --> 01:31:42,503
♪
2228
01:32:35,180 --> 01:32:38,600
♪
2229
01:33:03,083 --> 01:33:04,168
♪ music stops ♪
2230
01:33:07,171 --> 01:33:10,299
♪ smooth jazz music playing ♪
2231
01:33:39,745 --> 01:33:41,830
♪ music fades out ♪168913
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