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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,850 --> 00:00:20,479 [ambient traffic noise] 2 00:00:20,479 --> 00:00:22,731 [train rumbles] 3 00:00:22,731 --> 00:00:24,566 ♪ 4 00:00:24,566 --> 00:00:25,817 CHRIS MOTEN: I know what I want, 5 00:00:25,817 --> 00:00:27,277 and I know what I wanna be. 6 00:00:28,737 --> 00:00:33,283 ♪ 7 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:36,662 It is a little tough having to perform with celebrity artists. 8 00:00:36,662 --> 00:00:37,955 ♪ 9 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:39,498 I've played for-- 10 00:00:39,498 --> 00:00:42,000 I've toured with over a hundred celebrity artists. 11 00:00:42,584 --> 00:00:43,919 It's fun, you know what I'm saying? 12 00:00:43,919 --> 00:00:45,462 I love being on the road, I love touring, 13 00:00:45,462 --> 00:00:47,297 I love seeing different cities. 14 00:00:47,297 --> 00:00:49,007 When I first started traveling, 15 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:50,968 I used to get caught up in the hype 16 00:00:51,593 --> 00:00:53,011 of being with the artist, 17 00:00:53,011 --> 00:00:55,806 kinda piggybacking off of what they had. 18 00:00:55,806 --> 00:00:57,808 I had to realize that that wasn't mine. 19 00:00:58,475 --> 00:01:00,853 You should definitely be trying to find something 20 00:01:00,853 --> 00:01:01,937 that is your own. 21 00:01:02,980 --> 00:01:04,857 Y'all don't wanna be 50 years old 22 00:01:04,857 --> 00:01:07,484 trying to play on the road with Justin Bieber or somebody. 23 00:01:07,484 --> 00:01:08,402 It's not gonna work. 24 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:09,611 ♪ 25 00:01:09,611 --> 00:01:11,405 The exposure that we gain from that, 26 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:15,868 doesn't amount to the gift that God gave me and my destiny. 27 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:19,204 [cassette deck clicks] 28 00:01:19,204 --> 00:01:20,747 [sound warbling] 29 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:21,665 ♪ eerie music playing ♪ 30 00:01:21,665 --> 00:01:22,958 [whooshes] 31 00:01:22,958 --> 00:01:24,126 [warbling continues] 32 00:01:24,126 --> 00:01:25,878 ♪ 33 00:01:25,878 --> 00:01:26,795 ♪ upbeat hip-hop music playing ♪ 34 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:28,755 ♪ Yeah, yeah... ♪ 35 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:31,800 PERSON 1: Atlanta is still the Mecca of the south. 36 00:01:32,301 --> 00:01:33,927 PERSON 2: We come from a place 37 00:01:33,927 --> 00:01:36,430 where we do what we want, how we want, and when we want. 38 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:37,723 ♪ slow trombone music playing ♪ 39 00:01:37,723 --> 00:01:39,266 ♪ 40 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:43,312 Atlanta is a city, but Atlanta is country at the same time. 41 00:01:43,312 --> 00:01:47,232 There's a lot of confidence that comes from the culture of the city. 42 00:01:47,983 --> 00:01:49,359 We're defiant, we're disruptive-- [clipper buzzing] 43 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:50,152 [customer chuckles] 44 00:01:50,152 --> 00:01:51,028 T.I.: We're passionate. 45 00:01:51,028 --> 00:01:53,989 And for the city to be thriving right now on every front, 46 00:01:53,989 --> 00:01:56,450 from music, to films, to art, 47 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:58,202 and all aspects of the culture, it's good. 48 00:01:58,202 --> 00:01:59,036 You know what I'm saying? 49 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:00,579 We're still here having fun. 50 00:02:00,579 --> 00:02:01,455 ♪ 51 00:02:01,455 --> 00:02:03,624 Atlanta is, it's just where it is. 52 00:02:03,624 --> 00:02:04,708 Everyone's trying to get here. 53 00:02:04,708 --> 00:02:05,751 [motorbike rumbles] 54 00:02:05,751 --> 00:02:07,961 For us to be a region 55 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:11,548 to where there's no, like, real, like, major record labels here 56 00:02:11,548 --> 00:02:14,635 like in LA or New York, for us to move like this, 57 00:02:14,635 --> 00:02:15,761 we grindin'. 58 00:02:16,386 --> 00:02:17,888 You mean you ain't heard of Ludacris? 59 00:02:17,888 --> 00:02:19,431 You ain't heard of OutKast? 60 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:23,268 TLC, Pretty Mob, Toni Braxton, Usher. 61 00:02:23,268 --> 00:02:24,770 PERSON 3: Like, they created the sound here. 62 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:27,689 I feel like every city duplicates us. 63 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:31,944 It's-it's so much great music coming out of Atlanta. 64 00:02:31,944 --> 00:02:36,156 It's really not a sound that is specific to just one genre. 65 00:02:36,156 --> 00:02:39,284 It's a DIY market in the sense of building music 66 00:02:39,284 --> 00:02:41,328 in their homes, but it's great music. 67 00:02:41,328 --> 00:02:43,914 You make a room of people moving Atlanta, 68 00:02:43,914 --> 00:02:44,998 that means you can move the world. 69 00:02:45,791 --> 00:02:48,710 CHRIS: Everybody has their own idea 70 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:50,170 of how they want to contribute 71 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:51,672 their music to the world. 72 00:02:51,672 --> 00:02:52,673 That's crazy. 73 00:02:52,673 --> 00:02:53,924 This is just mine. 74 00:02:53,924 --> 00:02:55,509 Trap Jazz is a movement. 75 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:56,760 Trap Jazz is a sound. 76 00:02:57,386 --> 00:02:59,388 And more importantly, Trap Jazz is a band 77 00:02:59,888 --> 00:03:04,142 of a lot of friends and brothers that I started with 78 00:03:04,142 --> 00:03:04,977 from the beginning. 79 00:03:04,977 --> 00:03:08,564 Started first with Devon "Stixx" Taylor 80 00:03:08,564 --> 00:03:11,108 and then adding on Cassius Jay 81 00:03:11,108 --> 00:03:12,860 as the world-renowned producer. 82 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:16,238 We bridge the gap between jazz and hip-hop. 83 00:03:16,238 --> 00:03:19,825 The three of us along with a lot of friends and family 84 00:03:19,825 --> 00:03:21,702 is a collective as the band, Trap Jazz. 85 00:03:21,702 --> 00:03:22,661 ♪ 86 00:03:22,661 --> 00:03:23,537 [inaudible dialogue] 87 00:03:23,537 --> 00:03:26,665 It always come back to 3000 at the source of it. 88 00:03:26,665 --> 00:03:28,792 The south got somethin' to say, that's all I got to say. 89 00:03:28,792 --> 00:03:30,294 DJ TOOMP: That sparked somethin'. 90 00:03:30,294 --> 00:03:33,380 ♪ 91 00:03:41,471 --> 00:03:44,016 ♪ synthesizer music playing ♪ 92 00:03:44,016 --> 00:03:48,312 ♪ 93 00:03:48,312 --> 00:03:49,521 CHRIS: ...some new stuff. 94 00:03:49,521 --> 00:03:51,023 [keys clack] 95 00:03:51,023 --> 00:03:53,692 ♪ high-pitched jazz music playing ♪ 96 00:03:53,692 --> 00:03:57,571 CHRIS: Trap Jazz is exactly what you think it is when you say it. 97 00:03:57,571 --> 00:03:59,573 It's trap, and then there's jazz. 98 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:04,953 Eclectic improvisation mixed with, like, street gutter sounds. 99 00:04:04,953 --> 00:04:07,539 ♪ upbeat jazz music playing on laptop ♪ 100 00:04:07,539 --> 00:04:12,336 ♪ 101 00:04:12,336 --> 00:04:13,170 ♪ music stops ♪ 102 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:15,005 I was listening to "A" Train 103 00:04:15,714 --> 00:04:17,591 'cause I wanna trap that out. 104 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:19,676 'Cause that's-- basically it's trap jazz, 105 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:21,887 there's a trap beat and there's some jazz music. 106 00:04:21,887 --> 00:04:24,473 Real jazz, not like a form of jazz, you know? 107 00:04:24,473 --> 00:04:26,266 So that makes a difference. [clicks touchpad] 108 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,227 That's gonna be tough, 'cause they swingin' 109 00:04:28,227 --> 00:04:30,646 and they doin' a different beat than what we do nowadays. 110 00:04:31,063 --> 00:04:31,897 They're like-- 111 00:04:31,897 --> 00:04:33,273 ♪ scatting ♪ 112 00:04:33,732 --> 00:04:34,983 I can move it around, 113 00:04:34,983 --> 00:04:37,819 I just gotta find the right beat to go with it. 114 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:40,614 ♪ upbeat music plays ♪ 115 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:43,534 ♪ slow upbeat music plays ♪ 116 00:04:43,992 --> 00:04:44,868 [clicks touchpad] 117 00:04:44,868 --> 00:04:46,578 ♪ classical jazz music playing on laptop ♪ 118 00:04:46,578 --> 00:04:47,454 ♪ 119 00:04:47,454 --> 00:04:49,706 ♪ fast-paced electronic beats join classical jazz ♪ 120 00:04:49,706 --> 00:04:50,541 It's too fast. 121 00:04:50,541 --> 00:04:51,458 [keyboard clacking] 122 00:04:52,584 --> 00:04:55,128 ♪ classical jazz music playing ♪ 123 00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:56,421 ♪ 124 00:04:56,421 --> 00:04:59,007 ♪ electronic beats join classical jazz ♪ 125 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:08,851 ♪ 126 00:05:08,851 --> 00:05:10,227 ♪ music grows louder ♪ 127 00:05:10,227 --> 00:05:12,479 Ah! It's already, like, exciting me. 128 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:17,067 ♪ 129 00:05:17,568 --> 00:05:19,820 CASSIUS JAY: I just remember Chris coming up with the whole idea. 130 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:22,072 And I ain't even have a clue how we was finna do this. 131 00:05:22,072 --> 00:05:23,782 All I knew was I know how to make beats. 132 00:05:23,782 --> 00:05:25,617 ♪ hip-hop music playing ♪ 133 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:26,827 CHRIS: No more than a week after, 134 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:29,580 I felt like Trap Jazz was something that I could do. 135 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:31,123 I called Cassius. 136 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:34,918 I knew it was gonna be right in line with the sound that Atlanta loves. 137 00:05:34,918 --> 00:05:37,045 Because if you don't know Cassius, you're losing, 138 00:05:37,045 --> 00:05:39,631 like, probably gonna be the next king of trap. 139 00:05:39,631 --> 00:05:41,466 - [camera shutters clicking] - ♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪ 140 00:05:41,466 --> 00:05:42,885 [inaudible dialogue] 141 00:05:42,885 --> 00:05:45,137 I've produced for a lot of well-known artists 142 00:05:45,137 --> 00:05:48,974 like Future and Migos, Bankroll Fresh, Young Thug. 143 00:05:49,641 --> 00:05:52,352 CHRIS: And you got Cassius coming up killing everything. 144 00:05:52,769 --> 00:05:54,605 He's beyond his years in music especially. 145 00:05:55,272 --> 00:05:57,733 Like, most kids don't dig that deep. 146 00:05:57,733 --> 00:06:02,321 He a real church musician that can play like, you know, like a fool. 147 00:06:02,321 --> 00:06:04,781 JAZZE PHA: And then when you hear him play, you'd be like, 148 00:06:04,781 --> 00:06:06,450 "This dude gotta be in his 40s or somethin'." 149 00:06:06,450 --> 00:06:07,284 You know what I'm saying? 150 00:06:07,284 --> 00:06:08,452 'Cause he's just-- 151 00:06:08,452 --> 00:06:10,579 His musical palette is just, you know, magnifique 152 00:06:10,579 --> 00:06:12,372 'cause he's just-- 153 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:13,457 It's somethin' special. 154 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:15,834 CHRIS: I called Cassius and I was like, 155 00:06:15,834 --> 00:06:18,337 "Bro, like, I need some beats. 156 00:06:18,337 --> 00:06:21,423 "I just need whatever you would give to, you know, 157 00:06:21,423 --> 00:06:23,759 "Future, Young Thug, Gucci, like, 158 00:06:24,718 --> 00:06:26,428 "whatever you would give to them, 159 00:06:26,428 --> 00:06:27,262 "give that to me. 160 00:06:27,262 --> 00:06:28,597 Like, give me, like, five of 'em." 161 00:06:28,597 --> 00:06:30,599 He's like, "Well, just send me all your wack beats, 162 00:06:30,599 --> 00:06:32,100 "beats that you know you ain't gonna give to nobody. 163 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:32,935 Just send it to me." 164 00:06:32,935 --> 00:06:34,811 He's like, "I promise you I'll make somethin' up." 165 00:06:34,811 --> 00:06:36,730 CHRIS: When I got 'em, I just, like, ripped 'em 166 00:06:36,730 --> 00:06:38,607 in, like, two weeks and I sent 'em back. 167 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:40,609 CASSIUS: I was fuckin' amazed. 168 00:06:40,609 --> 00:06:42,444 I was like, "How in the hell did you come up with that?" 169 00:06:42,945 --> 00:06:44,071 Like, how? 170 00:06:44,071 --> 00:06:45,322 I didn't even believe he did it. 171 00:06:45,322 --> 00:06:47,616 I was like, "I'm finna come over to your house and see this shit." 172 00:06:47,616 --> 00:06:49,660 It automatically feel like it's about to turn up. 173 00:06:49,660 --> 00:06:52,704 Like, okay, we already-- 174 00:06:52,704 --> 00:06:54,289 They almost vibing to it. 175 00:06:54,289 --> 00:06:56,500 Females will be like, you know, "Okay. 176 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:57,626 We don't hear no words yet," 177 00:06:58,418 --> 00:06:59,253 but then we get here-- 178 00:06:59,253 --> 00:07:00,587 ♪ hip-hop beats playing ♪ 179 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:03,465 ♪ classical trumpet note joins hip-hop beats ♪ 180 00:07:03,465 --> 00:07:06,343 And immediately, even you, you just changed your vibe, 181 00:07:06,343 --> 00:07:07,302 because it's like... 182 00:07:07,302 --> 00:07:08,554 ♪ classical trumpet note plays ♪ 183 00:07:08,554 --> 00:07:10,973 ...now you trying to follow what this is saying, 184 00:07:10,973 --> 00:07:13,183 but this is already saying something to you. 185 00:07:13,183 --> 00:07:14,309 What is the music saying? 186 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:16,687 ♪ gentle peppy music playing ♪ 187 00:07:16,687 --> 00:07:19,731 ♪ 188 00:07:19,731 --> 00:07:21,191 First song that h-he gave me, 189 00:07:21,191 --> 00:07:23,151 I took it to Jazze Pha and Jazze went crazy. 190 00:07:23,151 --> 00:07:25,779 Like, "This is the new shit, this is the next shit." 191 00:07:25,779 --> 00:07:28,156 He was like, "This what you did over his beats? 192 00:07:28,699 --> 00:07:30,033 This what you did?" 193 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:33,704 I was like, "Yeah, it just-- that's my idea of trap jazz." 194 00:07:33,704 --> 00:07:35,914 ♪ fast-paced drumbeating ♪ 195 00:07:35,914 --> 00:07:38,959 ♪ 196 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:39,960 DEVON "STIXX" TAYLOR: Ah! 197 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,837 ♪ 198 00:07:41,837 --> 00:07:43,630 I played for some pretty cool artists. 199 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:44,464 Zendaya, 200 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:47,384 Mary J. Blige, Usher, Jagged Edge, 201 00:07:47,384 --> 00:07:50,429 Backstreet, Monica, Justin Bieber. 202 00:07:50,429 --> 00:07:52,139 Shout out to JB, man, I appreciate it. 203 00:07:52,139 --> 00:07:53,390 Love you, boy. 204 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:56,059 [crowd cheering] 205 00:07:56,059 --> 00:07:58,145 ♪ 206 00:07:58,145 --> 00:08:00,772 - How are you? Good to see you. - You look nice. 207 00:08:00,772 --> 00:08:02,107 STIXX: Chris and Cassius linked up, 208 00:08:02,107 --> 00:08:03,275 they did some stuff. 209 00:08:03,275 --> 00:08:05,068 Chris was just like, "Man, you need to play drums on it. 210 00:08:05,068 --> 00:08:05,903 He's like, "Little bro, 211 00:08:05,903 --> 00:08:07,446 "we really need to start a band. 212 00:08:07,446 --> 00:08:09,239 "Playing behind artists and stuff is cool, 213 00:08:09,239 --> 00:08:11,783 but don't you think it'll be cooler if, like, we played our own shit?" 214 00:08:11,783 --> 00:08:12,618 ♪ 215 00:08:12,618 --> 00:08:13,702 CHRIS: Dev is drummin'. 216 00:08:13,702 --> 00:08:16,622 I need that, because in Trap Jazz he had this sound. 217 00:08:16,622 --> 00:08:18,957 When he played everybody in the room was just like-- 218 00:08:18,957 --> 00:08:19,833 Up until that point, 219 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:22,586 I hadn't seen no other musician make people move like that. 220 00:08:22,586 --> 00:08:24,171 TERRACE MARTIN: Trap is a language. 221 00:08:24,171 --> 00:08:26,423 They're playing that at a very high level. 222 00:08:26,423 --> 00:08:27,758 It's not just, "I could do it." 223 00:08:27,758 --> 00:08:29,218 So I'm just like, "No, let's pract-- 224 00:08:29,218 --> 00:08:30,761 "Let's get it sounding. Let's-- 225 00:08:30,761 --> 00:08:33,680 "Let's put this Black music on one of the highest pedestals we can." 226 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:39,102 ♪ playing classical music ♪ 227 00:08:39,102 --> 00:08:40,562 CASSIUS: Chris, Chris is a monster. 228 00:08:40,562 --> 00:08:41,772 Chris is a hell of a musician. 229 00:08:41,772 --> 00:08:44,066 STIXX: Man, his sound is like no other. 230 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:46,026 The way he mixes certain sounds 231 00:08:46,026 --> 00:08:47,611 and the way he plays certain things, and-- 232 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:49,488 Even just his arrangements. 233 00:08:49,488 --> 00:08:51,740 His mind is amazing, man. 234 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:53,200 God really, really blessed him. 235 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,786 ♪ piano music playing ♪ 236 00:08:55,786 --> 00:08:58,080 ♪ 237 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,499 J-FLY: Chris was actually a prodigy. 238 00:09:00,499 --> 00:09:04,127 Like, he got awards as a jazz pianist. 239 00:09:04,127 --> 00:09:06,964 He has natural talent, a creative ear, 240 00:09:06,964 --> 00:09:08,757 but he also has the theory. 241 00:09:08,757 --> 00:09:12,928 Those elements in one human body, like, oh, my God. 242 00:09:13,554 --> 00:09:17,057 We gotta get the music out there to get people used to trap jazz. 243 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:20,936 Then after that, we just try to get our stuff played on the radio, and-- 244 00:09:20,936 --> 00:09:22,563 But what would we play it as? 245 00:09:22,563 --> 00:09:24,147 'Cause it won't fit in smooth jazz, 246 00:09:24,147 --> 00:09:25,899 it won't fit in jazz fusion, 247 00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:28,026 it won't fit in standard jazz. 248 00:09:29,736 --> 00:09:32,865 CASSIUS: Chris was like, "Man, I'm finna try this trap jazz. 249 00:09:32,865 --> 00:09:34,825 I can't wait to tour because I know it's gonna be big." 250 00:09:34,825 --> 00:09:36,118 I was like, "Well, listen." 251 00:09:36,118 --> 00:09:37,286 I was like, "You do the work, 252 00:09:37,286 --> 00:09:38,620 "here go the beats. 253 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:40,664 "I'll pay for the sessions, I'll get it mixed. 254 00:09:40,664 --> 00:09:43,667 "I'll pay for the musicians, I'll do the financial part. 255 00:09:44,168 --> 00:09:45,127 You just do the music part." 256 00:09:45,127 --> 00:09:46,295 STIXX: Me, him and Cassius, 257 00:09:46,295 --> 00:09:49,506 we booked, like, three days at Glow in the Dark Studios. 258 00:09:49,506 --> 00:09:51,675 He already had like a lot of songs already, 259 00:09:51,675 --> 00:09:53,135 you know, tracked out and mapped out. 260 00:09:53,594 --> 00:09:55,721 But, you know, he gave me creative control 261 00:09:55,721 --> 00:09:58,390 to put my own drum parts and everything on it. 262 00:09:58,390 --> 00:10:00,726 So, we came up with everything together, 263 00:10:00,726 --> 00:10:01,685 in one studio session. 264 00:10:01,685 --> 00:10:04,688 CHRIS: The main reason I'm doing it is for musicians. 265 00:10:04,688 --> 00:10:08,525 It's definitely important to me to leave somethin' behind. 266 00:10:08,525 --> 00:10:12,487 My mom bought me this $500 little Yamaha, 267 00:10:12,487 --> 00:10:13,447 and I started making beats. 268 00:10:13,447 --> 00:10:14,907 And I would take it to school and make beats 269 00:10:14,907 --> 00:10:16,408 and plug 'em to the speaker in the room. 270 00:10:16,408 --> 00:10:18,493 I was literally, like, making trap beats. 271 00:10:18,493 --> 00:10:21,496 That, you know, mixed with jazz, 272 00:10:21,496 --> 00:10:24,541 I think that really probably was the beginning 273 00:10:24,541 --> 00:10:27,503 of, you know, what we call Trap Jazz. 274 00:10:27,503 --> 00:10:28,879 ♪ 275 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:36,220 ♪ mellow music playing ♪ 276 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:39,932 [indistinct conversations] [laughter] 277 00:10:39,932 --> 00:10:47,189 ♪ 278 00:10:47,189 --> 00:10:48,190 CASSIUS' BROTHER: Get him, grandmama. 279 00:10:49,191 --> 00:10:50,150 He cussin'. 280 00:10:50,776 --> 00:10:52,694 You know better, you don't talk like that. 281 00:10:53,195 --> 00:10:54,655 He's been raised in the church. 282 00:10:54,655 --> 00:10:55,948 He know right from wrong. 283 00:10:55,948 --> 00:10:56,782 CASSIUS: Lemme see you do it. 284 00:10:56,782 --> 00:10:57,783 CASSIUS' BROTHER: Let me see you, Nate. 285 00:10:57,783 --> 00:10:58,784 Hey. Come on, Nate. 286 00:10:58,784 --> 00:10:59,952 CASSIUS: Get it! Get it! Get it! 287 00:10:59,952 --> 00:11:01,370 Outta all my friends, 288 00:11:01,370 --> 00:11:02,746 I'm like the big dog, 289 00:11:02,746 --> 00:11:05,707 and they follow me because I'm their big brother. 290 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:07,376 I was the one out, out the whole group, 291 00:11:07,376 --> 00:11:09,086 out of Devon and Chris decided, you know what? 292 00:11:09,086 --> 00:11:10,754 I don't wanna just be a church musician no more. 293 00:11:10,754 --> 00:11:11,797 I wanna be a producer. 294 00:11:11,797 --> 00:11:14,299 ♪ 295 00:11:14,299 --> 00:11:17,886 Right now, today, it's Father's Day, it's my day. 296 00:11:17,886 --> 00:11:19,721 And these are my beautiful kids. We're hanging out. 297 00:11:20,264 --> 00:11:22,641 Having kids kinda slowed me all the way down. 298 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:24,393 Even though I was in church and stuff, 299 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:25,978 it slowed me down when I had kids 300 00:11:25,978 --> 00:11:28,063 because it gave me somethin' to live for. 301 00:11:28,063 --> 00:11:29,356 Gotta little girlfriend? CASSIUS' SON: No. 302 00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,024 CASSIUS: So you gonna leave your shirt off? 303 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,734 And show your muscles? CASSIUS' SON: Yeah. 304 00:11:32,734 --> 00:11:34,069 You got muscles? CASSIUS' SON: No. 305 00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:35,279 FAMILY MEMBER: Let's see your muscles. 306 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:36,363 Let's see your muscles. 307 00:11:36,363 --> 00:11:38,115 Show your muscles. Come on, turn around, show your muscles. 308 00:11:38,115 --> 00:11:40,242 - FAMILY MEMBER: Come on, don't be shy. - Show your muscles. 309 00:11:40,242 --> 00:11:41,285 Hey! 310 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:43,954 The stuff I learned from my dad, I put it in my kids. 311 00:11:43,954 --> 00:11:45,664 My daddy the reason why I'm a musician. 312 00:11:45,664 --> 00:11:50,169 ♪ 313 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,590 [indistinct chatter] 314 00:11:56,925 --> 00:11:59,094 CASSIUS' MOM: This is the rock of the family. 315 00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:01,138 My husband was in the ministry 316 00:12:01,138 --> 00:12:04,766 and they needed music in the church. 317 00:12:04,766 --> 00:12:05,767 So my husband, 318 00:12:05,767 --> 00:12:08,437 he let my boys pick out the instrument 319 00:12:08,437 --> 00:12:10,355 that they wouldn't mind playing. 320 00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:12,024 ♪ 321 00:12:12,024 --> 00:12:13,775 CASSIUS: Like, drums, everybody could play drums. 322 00:12:14,276 --> 00:12:15,277 Bass wasn't cool enough. 323 00:12:15,277 --> 00:12:17,362 I-I feel like bass players real laid back, 324 00:12:17,362 --> 00:12:18,697 and I ain't got no laid backs, period. 325 00:12:18,697 --> 00:12:19,781 Like, I'm real hype. 326 00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:21,825 So I was like, I wanna play the piano or organ. 327 00:12:21,825 --> 00:12:23,994 And organ was the first instrument I sit on. 328 00:12:24,536 --> 00:12:26,914 CASSIUS' MOM: Everybody looked up to his dad, too, 329 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:29,208 would love to hear him sing and preach. 330 00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:32,669 CASSIUS: I'm just like my daddy. I'm same person. 331 00:12:32,669 --> 00:12:34,087 Everybody say I act like him, I dress like him. 332 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,797 My dad was real flashy. 333 00:12:36,381 --> 00:12:38,634 CASSIUS' MOM: My husband died suddenly. 334 00:12:38,634 --> 00:12:42,137 He wasn't sick, no one could believe it. 335 00:12:42,137 --> 00:12:45,516 I was thinking I was going to the doctor to be with him, 336 00:12:45,516 --> 00:12:49,520 but when I got there, they told me that he had passed. 337 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,063 He was trying to get out the car to ask for help, 338 00:12:51,063 --> 00:12:52,773 but he fell out the car, passed away. 339 00:12:52,773 --> 00:12:54,024 ♪ 340 00:12:54,024 --> 00:12:56,318 And they told us he had had a massive heart attack. 341 00:12:57,027 --> 00:12:58,570 We thought the world was over. 342 00:12:58,570 --> 00:13:00,739 Me and my brother, we was like, "What in the world?" 343 00:13:00,739 --> 00:13:01,865 Like, where do we go next? 344 00:13:01,865 --> 00:13:02,950 Like, what's the next step? 345 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:04,576 ♪ 346 00:13:04,576 --> 00:13:05,994 If it wasn't for my daddy, 347 00:13:05,994 --> 00:13:07,246 I wouldn't be where I'm at right now 348 00:13:07,246 --> 00:13:09,373 because my dad the one who put the whole 349 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:12,459 music into us, you know? 350 00:13:12,459 --> 00:13:14,586 If it weren't for my dad, I would not be a musician, 351 00:13:14,586 --> 00:13:15,462 first of all. 352 00:13:16,046 --> 00:13:17,673 I wouldn't be a producer. 353 00:13:17,673 --> 00:13:19,550 My daddy the one who told me I was gonna do this. 354 00:13:20,092 --> 00:13:21,260 He prophesied it. 355 00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:22,803 Every hit record I get on the radio, 356 00:13:22,803 --> 00:13:24,680 I come up here and play it for my dad. 357 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:25,514 Point blank period. 358 00:13:25,514 --> 00:13:27,558 I don't know if he could hear it or not, but I play it. 359 00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:29,935 Ain't nobody ain't gonna never had to struggle 360 00:13:29,935 --> 00:13:30,978 the way he had to do. 361 00:13:30,978 --> 00:13:32,354 ♪ 362 00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:33,564 [voice breaking] Like not one of us. 363 00:13:33,564 --> 00:13:37,109 ♪ somber music playing ♪ 364 00:13:37,109 --> 00:13:44,324 ♪ 365 00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:47,286 CASSIUS' MOM: His dad had told me an hour before he passed 366 00:13:47,286 --> 00:13:49,413 that Josh would make it. 367 00:13:49,413 --> 00:13:51,248 Josh was gonna make it. 368 00:13:51,248 --> 00:13:52,749 [Cassius sniffles] 369 00:13:52,749 --> 00:13:57,004 [singing] ♪ Amazing ♪ 370 00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:59,298 ♪ Grace ♪ 371 00:13:59,798 --> 00:14:05,596 ♪ How sweet the sound ♪ 372 00:14:05,971 --> 00:14:09,349 ♪ That saved ♪ 373 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:15,355 ♪ A wretch like me ♪ 374 00:14:16,231 --> 00:14:19,735 ♪ I once ♪ 375 00:14:19,735 --> 00:14:22,863 ♪ Was lost ♪ 376 00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:26,825 ♪ But now ♪ 377 00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:29,786 ♪ I'm found ♪ 378 00:14:30,204 --> 00:14:33,332 ♪ Was blind ♪ 379 00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:39,796 ♪ But now I see ♪ 380 00:14:39,796 --> 00:14:42,090 ♪ drums music playing ♪ 381 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:44,885 [indistinct chatter] 382 00:14:44,885 --> 00:14:47,846 One, two! PASTOR TAYLOR [on microphone]: Dr. Jesus make everything alright. 383 00:14:47,846 --> 00:14:48,764 ♪ 384 00:14:48,764 --> 00:14:50,182 I don't care what you're going through 385 00:14:50,182 --> 00:14:52,184 but your problem is nothing. 386 00:14:52,184 --> 00:14:54,937 Jesus will make everything alright. 387 00:14:54,937 --> 00:14:58,315 Do I have anybody in this house, who don't mind-- 388 00:14:58,315 --> 00:15:01,568 STIXX: My dad got called into the ministry. 389 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:04,154 And so I started playing in church in 2003. 390 00:15:04,154 --> 00:15:06,490 I think I was around, like, nine or ten. 391 00:15:06,490 --> 00:15:09,201 That opened up the door for me to do everything that I'm doing now. 392 00:15:09,201 --> 00:15:10,118 ♪ 393 00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:11,745 PASTOR TAYLOR: Sing it one more time, folks! 394 00:15:11,745 --> 00:15:12,871 Come on now. Let's go. 395 00:15:12,871 --> 00:15:15,332 [singing] ♪ Oh, Dr. Jesus ♪ 396 00:15:15,332 --> 00:15:16,542 ♪ Dr. Jesus ♪ 397 00:15:16,542 --> 00:15:18,001 ♪ He said ♪ 398 00:15:18,001 --> 00:15:19,336 ♪ Said he would ♪ 399 00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:20,212 [laughter] 400 00:15:20,212 --> 00:15:22,256 ♪ indistinct singing ♪ 401 00:15:22,256 --> 00:15:23,757 ♪ 402 00:15:23,757 --> 00:15:26,468 ♪ Dr. Jesus ♪ 403 00:15:26,468 --> 00:15:27,511 ♪ He said ♪ 404 00:15:27,511 --> 00:15:28,762 ♪ Said he would ♪ 405 00:15:29,221 --> 00:15:30,639 STIXX: That's-that's where I got my start. 406 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,350 You know, that's where I was able to do 407 00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:35,727 whatever I pretty much put my heart to. 408 00:15:35,727 --> 00:15:38,063 You know, in church there's not really no rules. 409 00:15:38,063 --> 00:15:41,692 Like, that's when you're really able to play freely, 410 00:15:41,692 --> 00:15:42,734 and, like, open yourself. 411 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:43,777 It's kinda like jazz, 412 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:45,654 like, it's not structured. 413 00:15:45,654 --> 00:15:48,532 ♪ indistinct singing ♪ 414 00:15:48,532 --> 00:15:51,076 ♪ 415 00:15:51,076 --> 00:15:53,203 STIXX: 'Cause even with church, you still gotta go to rehearsal. 416 00:15:53,203 --> 00:15:54,538 You still gotta learn the music. 417 00:15:54,538 --> 00:15:56,957 It's still a gig, it's still work at the end of the day. 418 00:15:56,957 --> 00:15:58,000 ♪ Say it again ♪ 419 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,459 [inaudible dialogue] 420 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:00,669 ♪ indistinct singing ♪ 421 00:16:00,669 --> 00:16:08,218 ♪ 422 00:16:08,218 --> 00:16:12,055 ♪ He's gonna make everything alright ♪ 423 00:16:12,055 --> 00:16:14,266 PASTOR TAYLOR [on microphone]: Now, come on, give God your prayer. Repent. 424 00:16:14,266 --> 00:16:15,809 Praise to Him! 425 00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:16,685 Whoo! 426 00:16:17,311 --> 00:16:18,395 ♪ 427 00:16:18,395 --> 00:16:21,356 And, you may be seated in the presence of the Lord. Amen. 428 00:16:21,356 --> 00:16:23,775 God bless you all on this day. 429 00:16:23,775 --> 00:16:24,985 [applause] PASTOR TAYLOR: Thank you, thank you. 430 00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:26,361 I wanna say Happy Father's Day. 431 00:16:26,361 --> 00:16:27,821 All the men stand up. 432 00:16:27,821 --> 00:16:28,739 All the men. 433 00:16:28,739 --> 00:16:30,866 All the men stand up. Amen. [cheers and exclaims] 434 00:16:30,866 --> 00:16:34,703 PASTOR TAYLOR: We salute the men today on Father's Day. Amen. 435 00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:36,163 Ladies, come on, make some noise. 436 00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:38,582 Make some noise. Real loud, ladies. Scream in here. 437 00:16:38,582 --> 00:16:39,458 [women cheering] 438 00:16:39,458 --> 00:16:41,502 PASTOR TAYLOR: Amen, like it's your favorite entertainer, 439 00:16:41,502 --> 00:16:43,879 scream in here like it's Luther Vandross, 440 00:16:43,879 --> 00:16:46,507 or whoever it is that you might listen to. 441 00:16:46,507 --> 00:16:48,467 Scream and cheer these men. 442 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:49,927 [screaming and cheering] 443 00:16:50,469 --> 00:16:51,845 All praise. Amen. 444 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:52,721 Thank you, guys. 445 00:16:52,721 --> 00:16:54,431 Thank you all. Thank you all so much. 446 00:16:54,431 --> 00:16:56,266 Amen. Amen. Amen. 447 00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:58,143 ♪ 448 00:16:58,143 --> 00:17:00,729 DEACON SCOTT WILLIAMS: I started noticing Devon's talent 449 00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:02,940 when I used to play with his father. 450 00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:04,274 I went to his father and told him, 451 00:17:04,274 --> 00:17:07,110 "Hey, man, you know, I like playing the drums. 452 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:08,195 "I really do, I love 'em. 453 00:17:08,946 --> 00:17:11,240 But your son is anointed to play the drums." 454 00:17:11,698 --> 00:17:13,116 [indistinct chatter] 455 00:17:13,116 --> 00:17:14,034 And they had noticed, you know. 456 00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:16,411 Whenever he's playin', he's smilin'. 457 00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:18,455 You know what I'm saying? You can see him with that smile. 458 00:17:18,455 --> 00:17:22,709 I believe, uh, you will not catch him not smilin' 459 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:25,420 while he's playing the drums, and, uh, because he loves it. 460 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:28,841 First gig was with my parents, was with my father, 461 00:17:28,841 --> 00:17:29,925 with his group. 462 00:17:29,925 --> 00:17:32,302 He had a gospel group and it was called Interfaith. 463 00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:34,680 ♪ indistinct singing ♪ 464 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,140 As Devon was comin' up, I was in groups, 465 00:17:38,392 --> 00:17:41,979 and, uh, Devon was there watching our drummer, Scott. 466 00:17:41,979 --> 00:17:43,105 And he would sit right there, 467 00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:44,439 right there up on Scott, 468 00:17:44,439 --> 00:17:46,191 right there looking dead at the drums. 469 00:17:46,191 --> 00:17:47,442 And Scott had to say, 470 00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:48,819 "Back up, back up a little bit, Devon. 471 00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:50,153 Back up a little bit." [laughs] 472 00:17:52,155 --> 00:17:55,784 DEACON SCOTT: There was a song that Interfaith used to do 473 00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:58,120 that gives the drummer special little part in it 474 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,204 where he can do his thing. 475 00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:01,915 PASTOR TAYLOR: He had to be about eight or nine years old. 476 00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,042 He just was like, "Man, you're not ready yet, son." 477 00:18:04,042 --> 00:18:05,460 [all laughing] 478 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:06,295 He'd say-- He said, 479 00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:07,588 "Dad gonna let you play." FAMILY MEMBER: Yep! 480 00:18:07,588 --> 00:18:09,089 DEACON SCOTT: His father finally gave him a chance. 481 00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:12,342 He said, "Okay, okay, we gonna, we gonna put this in the routine." 482 00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:13,886 ♪ 483 00:18:13,886 --> 00:18:15,304 We made up this a little skit. 484 00:18:15,304 --> 00:18:17,973 Like, Scott, you just gonna act like you just tired, 485 00:18:17,973 --> 00:18:20,267 you-you done, you tired playin' the drum. 486 00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:22,519 And, uh, we was doing a concert. 487 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:23,979 Devon right there, right next to me, 488 00:18:23,979 --> 00:18:25,189 like he always would be. 489 00:18:25,189 --> 00:18:27,649 And I stood up from the drums and I told him, 490 00:18:27,649 --> 00:18:29,735 "I can't do this no more, man, I'm-I'm tired." 491 00:18:29,735 --> 00:18:31,695 He said, "Man, I-I need, I need a drummer. 492 00:18:31,695 --> 00:18:34,198 Any drummers in the house?" 493 00:18:34,198 --> 00:18:36,033 And lo and behold, little Devon raised his hand. 494 00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:37,367 "I can do it, Dad, I can do it." 495 00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:40,120 Gets on the drum set and get to the part where 496 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:41,455 the drummer gets his solo. 497 00:18:41,455 --> 00:18:46,126 And I'm talkin' about he had the whole house amazed. 498 00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:49,004 I would follow him everywhere and then I would just play that one song. 499 00:18:49,004 --> 00:18:53,050 And that was like my first gig ever, you know, playing with my dad. 500 00:18:53,050 --> 00:18:55,344 His father went halfway around the world. 501 00:18:55,344 --> 00:18:57,304 Devon is gone all the way around the world. 502 00:18:57,304 --> 00:19:00,182 ♪ fast-paced drum music playing ♪ 503 00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:03,435 ♪ 504 00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:05,812 CASSIUS: When I heard Devon, I was like, 505 00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:08,607 "Whoa," like, I want you to be my friend forever. 506 00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:10,317 And I stuck with him. 507 00:19:10,317 --> 00:19:11,693 I never would let him get away from me. 508 00:19:11,693 --> 00:19:14,988 ♪ upbeat drum music playing ♪ 509 00:19:14,988 --> 00:19:16,698 STIXX: He was playing organ for us. 510 00:19:16,698 --> 00:19:19,576 I was around, like, 13 or 14 at the time. 511 00:19:20,452 --> 00:19:22,913 And Cassius, he-he used to always tell me like, 512 00:19:22,913 --> 00:19:25,832 "Bro, you are killing, bro." 513 00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:27,459 Like, you know I was a little kid, 514 00:19:27,459 --> 00:19:30,546 like, "Thank you, man," all hyped, just smilin'. 515 00:19:30,546 --> 00:19:32,506 And then he told me, he was like, 516 00:19:32,506 --> 00:19:34,633 "Man, playing the church is cool, 517 00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:37,803 "but, bro, you can go so much further with, with your gift, 518 00:19:37,803 --> 00:19:38,971 with what you're doing." 519 00:19:38,971 --> 00:19:40,556 ♪ 520 00:19:40,556 --> 00:19:43,016 CASSIUS: No matter how big we got, he called me Big Bro. 521 00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:44,726 "B-Big bro, what we doing today, Big Bro? 522 00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:45,727 Big bro, where are we going?" 523 00:19:45,727 --> 00:19:46,562 I just go pick him up. 524 00:19:47,521 --> 00:19:49,815 STIXX: I remember Cassius used to come pick me up from school 525 00:19:49,815 --> 00:19:51,275 like, every other day. 526 00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:53,151 [chuckles] I used to get in the car with him. 527 00:19:53,151 --> 00:19:54,528 We would ride to the studio, 528 00:19:54,528 --> 00:19:57,656 we'd be recording where he had me doing like, gigs and stuff. 529 00:19:57,656 --> 00:19:59,658 He was just introducing me to people around town. 530 00:19:59,658 --> 00:20:02,452 ♪ upbeat drum music playing ♪ 531 00:20:02,452 --> 00:20:05,247 ♪ 532 00:20:05,247 --> 00:20:08,750 CASSIUS: I introduced Stixx to every drummer, every artist, 533 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:10,127 'cause I knew he could outplay everybody. 534 00:20:10,127 --> 00:20:12,546 He was young and I was excited 535 00:20:12,546 --> 00:20:16,258 to see a young musician outplay the oldest cats in the world. 536 00:20:16,258 --> 00:20:18,886 I'd take him over Chris' house and little share with Chris. 537 00:20:18,886 --> 00:20:20,137 ♪ 538 00:20:20,137 --> 00:20:21,305 CHRIS: Sometimes they'd come to my house. 539 00:20:21,305 --> 00:20:24,266 Everybody know I had this basement where I had like two drum sets. 540 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:28,020 I had a, a bass rig, a guitar rig, five, six keyboards, 541 00:20:28,020 --> 00:20:29,062 all this stuff, you know. 542 00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:31,064 And everybody would just come there and play. 543 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:33,734 So a lot of times Devon and him would come by, 544 00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:36,111 and then I realized there's somethin' about this guy. 545 00:20:36,111 --> 00:20:37,571 Like, he had this sound, 546 00:20:37,571 --> 00:20:39,072 and every time he played a rap beat, 547 00:20:40,157 --> 00:20:41,783 everybody in the room would, like, 548 00:20:42,701 --> 00:20:44,077 they'd start movin'. 549 00:20:44,077 --> 00:20:45,871 And it was, like, you could be a dope drummer 550 00:20:45,871 --> 00:20:48,248 but it's hard to make everybody in the room 551 00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:49,666 move at the same time. 552 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:50,959 ♪ 553 00:20:50,959 --> 00:20:53,837 I describe my sound as real aggressive. 554 00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:55,672 ♪ fast-paced drumming ♪ 555 00:20:55,672 --> 00:20:58,050 I like for people to feel what I'm playing, 556 00:20:58,050 --> 00:20:59,468 to feel my energy. 557 00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:01,428 ♪ 558 00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:04,181 CHRIS: I don't think I ever wanna do the Trap Jazz show without Devon 559 00:21:04,181 --> 00:21:06,558 because he just sounds just like what we need. 560 00:21:06,558 --> 00:21:08,936 ♪ fast-paced drum music playing ♪ 561 00:21:08,936 --> 00:21:31,208 ♪ 562 00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:34,253 ♪ bright piano music playing ♪ 563 00:21:34,253 --> 00:21:37,965 ♪ 564 00:21:39,174 --> 00:23:05,385 ♪ 565 00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:08,138 ♪ music ends softly ♪ 566 00:23:08,889 --> 00:23:10,557 CHRIS: That one's called Carrie Lee. 567 00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:12,768 My grandfather's first and middle. 568 00:23:12,768 --> 00:23:14,478 I've always liked that. 569 00:23:14,478 --> 00:23:16,230 The second melody, the-- 570 00:23:16,605 --> 00:23:18,649 ♪ slow piano music playing ♪ 571 00:23:18,649 --> 00:23:21,568 ♪ 572 00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:25,072 It really makes me think, like, about, like, the happy times. 573 00:23:25,072 --> 00:23:27,366 [laughter] And some of the sad times, too. 574 00:23:27,366 --> 00:23:29,159 So, I like that song so far. 575 00:23:29,159 --> 00:23:30,077 I'm not even finished with it 576 00:23:30,077 --> 00:23:31,828 but it's still fun to play. 577 00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:34,873 [distant traffic noise] 578 00:23:37,626 --> 00:23:39,628 ♪ organ music playing ♪ 579 00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:40,587 CHRIS: What up, bro man? 580 00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,047 CHRIS' DAD: Hey, man, what's happening? 581 00:23:42,047 --> 00:23:43,006 CHRIS: Good, how are you? 582 00:23:43,006 --> 00:23:44,424 CHRIS' DAD: Just got back in town? CHRIS: I did. 583 00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:45,884 - Your phone work? - Sometimes. Sometimes. 584 00:23:45,884 --> 00:23:47,344 - Aah. - Sometimes it work, sometimes it don't. 585 00:23:47,344 --> 00:23:48,262 Sometimes that it don't. 586 00:23:48,262 --> 00:23:49,763 - CHRIS: Actually. - Where you been? 587 00:23:50,389 --> 00:23:51,431 Uh, New York. 588 00:23:52,057 --> 00:23:52,891 How it go? 589 00:23:52,891 --> 00:23:54,768 Most of the time New York, based outta New York, 590 00:23:54,768 --> 00:23:58,480 and then going everywhere else outside of that. 591 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,314 It's been fun. 592 00:23:59,314 --> 00:24:02,150 You enjoy your Father's Day, without me, your favorite? 593 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:03,694 Uh, Yeah, right. [Chris laughs] 594 00:24:04,987 --> 00:24:06,822 - You like it? - I can do a lot with it, yeah. 595 00:24:07,614 --> 00:24:11,869 Got my pads, faders, and, you know, we like all that stuff. 596 00:24:11,869 --> 00:24:13,036 - CHRIS' DAD: Yeah, yeah. - So that's pretty cool. 597 00:24:13,036 --> 00:24:14,663 CHRIS' DAD: That's the next generation, just-- 598 00:24:14,663 --> 00:24:15,956 - I got, I got mine. - You enjoying your new organ? 599 00:24:15,956 --> 00:24:16,999 Yeah, man, I love it. 600 00:24:16,999 --> 00:24:18,542 - I love it. I love it. - Yeah, I think it's nice, too. 601 00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:19,835 Open it up a little bit. 602 00:24:19,835 --> 00:24:20,919 Lets see what's it sound like. 603 00:24:20,919 --> 00:24:21,879 Oh, it sounds good. 604 00:24:21,879 --> 00:24:22,838 CHRIS: Open it up a little bit. 605 00:24:22,838 --> 00:24:23,672 ♪ plays high-pitched note ♪ 606 00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:24,506 Ay! 607 00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:25,424 That's, uh-- 608 00:24:25,424 --> 00:24:26,300 ♪ 609 00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:27,301 You don't feel nothing? CHRIS: Amen. 610 00:24:27,301 --> 00:24:28,760 ♪ plays notes ♪ 611 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,053 - Oh, it's nice. - Yes, Lord. 612 00:24:30,053 --> 00:24:32,139 ♪ plays notes, tempo decreases ♪ 613 00:24:32,139 --> 00:24:33,015 ♪ plays note ♪ 614 00:24:33,015 --> 00:24:33,849 - CHRIS' DAD: What we gonna play? - Yeah, that's nice. 615 00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:35,184 You get yours over, we'll play something together. 616 00:24:35,184 --> 00:24:36,602 I just wanted to hear it open up a little bit. 617 00:24:36,602 --> 00:24:37,811 - So I can learn something. - That's the thing. 618 00:24:37,811 --> 00:24:38,979 - That's what make you go crazy. - You can teach me something 619 00:24:38,979 --> 00:24:41,481 - before you go back on the road. - That's that, ay-ya-ya! 620 00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:43,150 ♪ soulful organ music plays ♪ 621 00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:46,111 My dad, you know, of course is an organist, 622 00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:48,405 very popular organist in the church. 623 00:24:48,405 --> 00:24:50,866 And my mother's a very popular singer. 624 00:24:50,866 --> 00:24:52,242 Know what I mean? 625 00:24:52,242 --> 00:24:54,494 CHRIS' DAD: Our house was filled with music. 626 00:24:55,245 --> 00:24:56,580 Chris grew up with a Hammond organ 627 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:57,623 in the living room. 628 00:24:57,623 --> 00:24:59,208 We were constantly in church 629 00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:01,710 because I was constantly playing or his mother was singing. 630 00:25:01,710 --> 00:25:03,587 So he grew up in church. 631 00:25:03,587 --> 00:25:04,588 ♪ 632 00:25:04,588 --> 00:25:05,464 I can't do that. 633 00:25:05,464 --> 00:25:08,884 ♪ playing lively music on keyboard ♪ 634 00:25:08,884 --> 00:25:10,052 CHRIS: Yeah, I remember that one. 635 00:25:10,052 --> 00:25:11,345 ♪ 636 00:25:11,345 --> 00:25:12,179 I remember that one. 637 00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:13,096 You remember that one? 638 00:25:13,096 --> 00:25:15,599 ♪ fast-paced organ music playing ♪ 639 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:17,309 ♪ 640 00:25:17,309 --> 00:25:18,185 Yeah. 641 00:25:18,185 --> 00:25:20,354 ♪ 642 00:25:20,354 --> 00:25:22,814 CHRIS' DAD: He would always sit on the organ with me 643 00:25:22,814 --> 00:25:24,233 or sit on the drums. 644 00:25:24,233 --> 00:25:26,360 I bought both of my sons drumsticks, 645 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,569 sometime I think it was a mistake 646 00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,488 because the furniture turned out to be a drum. 647 00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:31,615 CHRIS: That was the first thing I did. 648 00:25:31,615 --> 00:25:34,826 And then out of nowhere my grandfather [chuckles] was like, 649 00:25:34,826 --> 00:25:36,495 "You got enough drummers in the family. 650 00:25:36,495 --> 00:25:37,663 "Go-- Why don't you go play that? 651 00:25:37,663 --> 00:25:39,081 Why don't you go play piano?" 652 00:25:39,081 --> 00:25:41,416 And he literally forced me to get on the piano. 653 00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:44,127 ♪ peppy organ music playing ♪ 654 00:25:44,127 --> 00:25:49,591 ♪ 655 00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:51,426 ♪ piano solo ♪ 656 00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:53,136 CHRIS' DAD: Oh, I like that. 657 00:25:53,136 --> 00:25:54,930 CHRIS' MOM: I remember going to his room 658 00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:56,890 and he'd have the radio on, 659 00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:58,100 and he'd be listening to the radio 660 00:25:58,809 --> 00:26:00,519 and playing behind the radio. 661 00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,146 So, when that started happening, I just knew, 662 00:26:03,146 --> 00:26:04,606 you know, he had that connection. 663 00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:05,899 It was all God, you know. 664 00:26:05,899 --> 00:26:09,361 ♪ peppy organ music playing ♪ 665 00:26:09,361 --> 00:26:19,705 ♪ 666 00:26:19,705 --> 00:26:20,622 Ready? 667 00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:30,215 ♪ 668 00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:31,717 Ah! CHRIS' DAD: You know I'm old. 669 00:26:31,717 --> 00:26:33,927 CHRIS: You can play, man, you got it. 670 00:26:33,927 --> 00:26:34,761 Eh. 671 00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,555 CHRIS: I still need-- Got some stuff to learn I see, huh? 672 00:26:36,555 --> 00:26:38,348 CASSIUS: Every piano player, every organist 673 00:26:38,348 --> 00:26:40,934 from Atlanta, Georgia looked up to Chris' dad. 674 00:26:40,934 --> 00:26:43,854 I just happened to meet Chris at the time, 675 00:26:43,854 --> 00:26:45,230 and then after I met Chris, 676 00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:46,607 after I realized who his daddy was. 677 00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:49,234 His daddy was my daddy's best friend. 678 00:26:49,234 --> 00:26:51,403 So then we just started, like, showing each other things. 679 00:26:51,403 --> 00:26:53,405 [Cassius laughs] 680 00:26:53,405 --> 00:26:55,657 CHRIS: I tried to start playing more when he came up here. 681 00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:57,326 [laughter] CASSIUS: Ah. 682 00:26:57,326 --> 00:27:01,163 ♪ 683 00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:02,581 I look like my daddy, don't I? 684 00:27:02,581 --> 00:27:04,499 [laughter] 685 00:27:04,499 --> 00:27:06,460 CHRIS' DAD: All of this look like your dad. 686 00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:07,586 [laughter] 687 00:27:07,586 --> 00:27:08,504 What's up, man? 688 00:27:08,504 --> 00:27:09,421 That's crazy, eh? 689 00:27:09,421 --> 00:27:10,547 CASSIUS: Listen. CHRIS' DAD: Look at you. 690 00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:12,090 CASSIUS: Just like all the producers 691 00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:13,592 wanted to be like Zaytoven, 692 00:27:13,592 --> 00:27:16,553 all the musicians wanted to learn 693 00:27:16,553 --> 00:27:18,305 how to play the organ just like you. 694 00:27:18,305 --> 00:27:19,223 [laughter] 695 00:27:19,223 --> 00:27:21,141 CASSIUS: Chris' daddy has a style in the church, 696 00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:22,267 we call it a COGIC style, 697 00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:23,519 the Church of God in Christ style. 698 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,854 It's like real, real, real churchy. 699 00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:27,898 CHRIS' DAD: Josh is just like another son. 700 00:27:27,898 --> 00:27:31,068 I haven't seen him since he was a kid. 701 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:33,695 CHRIS: I've always known Cassius. 702 00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:36,198 I known him as Josh, like, I know that's his producer name. 703 00:27:36,198 --> 00:27:37,449 But this is-- I just know Josh. 704 00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:38,742 We grew up together. 705 00:27:38,742 --> 00:27:40,869 His father sang, like, praise and worship 706 00:27:40,869 --> 00:27:42,955 while my father played organ. 707 00:27:42,955 --> 00:27:44,122 This the first song you taught me. 708 00:27:44,122 --> 00:27:45,791 ♪ slow organ music playing ♪ 709 00:27:45,791 --> 00:27:49,878 ♪ 710 00:27:49,878 --> 00:27:51,255 Of course your chorus was-- 711 00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:52,798 ♪ fast-paced organ music playing ♪ 712 00:27:52,798 --> 00:27:55,384 [laughter] 713 00:27:55,801 --> 00:27:57,427 CASSIUS: Chris' dad, through my whole family, 714 00:27:57,427 --> 00:28:00,430 my mama, my grandma, all my aunties, 715 00:28:00,430 --> 00:28:02,266 if it wasn't for him being friends with my dad, 716 00:28:02,266 --> 00:28:03,642 I would not know Chris Moten. 717 00:28:03,642 --> 00:28:04,893 [inaudible dialogue] 718 00:28:04,893 --> 00:28:08,230 ♪ 719 00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:09,106 CHRIS' MOM: They just clicked. 720 00:28:09,106 --> 00:28:11,942 I guess it was the music that drew them together. 721 00:28:11,942 --> 00:28:13,443 He had somebody that understood him. 722 00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:17,823 CHRIS: This is uh, Decatur, straight from the deck, 723 00:28:17,823 --> 00:28:19,324 Decatur where it's greater. 724 00:28:19,324 --> 00:28:21,785 Decatur is very much like the hood. 725 00:28:23,078 --> 00:28:25,497 You know, then there's a good part of it, too. 726 00:28:25,497 --> 00:28:28,208 There's a lot of families. 727 00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:29,668 You know everybody in the neighborhood, 728 00:28:29,668 --> 00:28:31,461 you know everybody a street over. 729 00:28:31,461 --> 00:28:32,588 All the families know each other, 730 00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:33,922 all the parents know each other, 731 00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:36,008 You know, keep a look out for all the kids. 732 00:28:36,008 --> 00:28:37,551 [children laughing] 733 00:28:38,635 --> 00:28:40,095 CHRIS: This is the house I grew up in. 734 00:28:40,095 --> 00:28:43,140 The house I know most for growing up in. 735 00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:44,224 We moved around a little bit, 736 00:28:44,224 --> 00:28:47,769 but this is the-- where all the memories were created. 737 00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:51,023 Um, this is where I got my first keyboard. 738 00:28:51,023 --> 00:28:53,108 - Your first drum set. - First drum set. 739 00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:54,067 Um-- 740 00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:57,654 This is even where piano first came into my life. 741 00:28:57,654 --> 00:28:59,865 Uh, there was a piano in the living room. 742 00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:01,575 And, uh-- 743 00:29:02,242 --> 00:29:03,619 Uh, as crazy as it seems 744 00:29:03,619 --> 00:29:06,914 we was having church every Sunday in the living room. 745 00:29:06,914 --> 00:29:09,499 And, um, so just family members would come over 746 00:29:09,499 --> 00:29:12,169 and just like church normally, you know, they'd open the doors, 747 00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:14,129 everybody come in with their church clothes on, 748 00:29:14,129 --> 00:29:16,256 sit down at regular chairs. 749 00:29:16,256 --> 00:29:19,426 Set up like it was a really, you know, a really-- a real service, you know? 750 00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:23,305 ♪ poignant music playing ♪ 751 00:29:23,305 --> 00:29:25,307 I remember just being in this driveway. 752 00:29:26,558 --> 00:29:28,185 It was a very sentimental moment. 753 00:29:29,102 --> 00:29:30,812 I don't know, I didn't know what was happening. 754 00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:33,232 - [insect buzzing] - But I know my mother had gathered us up 755 00:29:34,024 --> 00:29:36,276 and, you know, they told us a few things, 756 00:29:36,276 --> 00:29:39,071 but we've been young, 12, 13. 757 00:29:39,071 --> 00:29:41,323 And then, you know, I didn't, I didn't wanna believe 758 00:29:41,323 --> 00:29:43,242 whatever was, was getting ready to happen, 759 00:29:43,242 --> 00:29:44,701 but it seemed like it was really eerie. 760 00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:46,954 After my dad was, like, you know, 761 00:29:46,954 --> 00:29:50,541 "I'm basically leavin' for a while, and will be gone for a while." 762 00:29:50,541 --> 00:29:52,334 I remember after that, it just didn't seem real. 763 00:29:52,334 --> 00:29:55,420 ♪ 764 00:30:03,887 --> 00:30:07,182 And, uh, I probably was like ten years old, maybe nine, ten. 765 00:30:07,182 --> 00:30:10,227 So at that point in my life I felt a, 766 00:30:10,227 --> 00:30:12,938 a responsibility to, like, really take over. 767 00:30:12,938 --> 00:30:14,982 I didn't, I didn't think my mom could tell me what to do. 768 00:30:14,982 --> 00:30:16,733 'Cause I was like, you know, "I'm the man of the house now. 769 00:30:16,733 --> 00:30:17,568 "Dad said I got it. 770 00:30:17,568 --> 00:30:19,361 He ain't here so I'm-I'm in control." 771 00:30:19,361 --> 00:30:20,779 She like, "He didn't mean that." 772 00:30:20,779 --> 00:30:22,322 - [Chris's Dad laughs] - "If you really think you the man of the house 773 00:30:22,322 --> 00:30:23,490 you need to be paying some bills." 774 00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:25,659 - You know what I mean? So-- - So you settled down, then? 775 00:30:25,659 --> 00:30:26,618 CHRIS: Yeah, I settled down. 776 00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:29,580 And I mean, and I did, you know, when I turned 14, 15-- 777 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:35,252 CHRIS' DAD: I spent, uh, 20 years in prison from 1996 until 2016. 778 00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:38,005 It was a very difficult time for all of us, 779 00:30:38,005 --> 00:30:39,131 my entire family. 780 00:30:40,174 --> 00:30:41,425 Um-- 781 00:30:41,425 --> 00:30:44,303 I sent Chris music as often as I could. 782 00:30:45,053 --> 00:30:47,806 CASSIUS: Chris' daddy used to send Chris cassette tapes 783 00:30:47,806 --> 00:30:50,309 of him playing because, of course, he was incarcerated. 784 00:30:50,309 --> 00:30:52,519 ♪ 785 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:53,478 [tape whirrs] 786 00:30:53,478 --> 00:30:55,898 CHRIS' DAD [over tape]: Hey, Chris, check out this new song. 787 00:30:55,898 --> 00:31:01,028 I redid Amazing Grace and I changed it to Grace Amazing. 788 00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:02,070 I kinda make it my own. 789 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:03,197 ♪ keyboard music playing ♪ 790 00:31:03,197 --> 00:31:04,406 CHRIS' DAD: And watch the change right here. 791 00:31:05,449 --> 00:31:08,410 It'll flow right into it, the solo. 792 00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:09,870 I'ma do the organ first. 793 00:31:10,579 --> 00:31:11,580 Now here's the piano. 794 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:13,290 I was thinking about you when I did the piano 795 00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:15,167 since you like the piano more than you like the organ. 796 00:31:16,168 --> 00:31:20,297 CHRIS: Not learning music with him versus him sending tapes 797 00:31:20,297 --> 00:31:22,674 and talking on the tape 798 00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:24,593 and telling me how it's supposed to sound 799 00:31:24,593 --> 00:31:26,136 versus him being right there next to me, 800 00:31:26,136 --> 00:31:27,346 that was tough. 801 00:31:27,346 --> 00:31:29,598 Um, along with just not growing up, 802 00:31:29,598 --> 00:31:31,808 you know, without a father right there. 803 00:31:32,518 --> 00:31:34,144 CHRIS' DAD [over tape]: Now Imma come back with a symph. 804 00:31:35,229 --> 00:31:37,856 Watch the bend, watch the bend. 805 00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:39,149 CASSIUS: But he would just tell us like, 806 00:31:39,149 --> 00:31:41,735 "These are the chords, one by one. A flat, C, E flat." 807 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,613 That was a triad, of course, A flat, major cord. 808 00:31:44,613 --> 00:31:45,989 He'd just tell us stuff like that. 809 00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:49,535 CHRIS' DAD: He would send me back cassette tapes, 810 00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:52,204 and he'd have a thousand questions, 811 00:31:52,996 --> 00:31:54,957 and I would always have one answer, 812 00:31:54,957 --> 00:31:56,875 "Figure it out. 813 00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:58,836 "Because if I tell you, 814 00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:00,629 you're not gonna get it." 815 00:32:03,507 --> 00:32:04,550 CHRIS: My dad was always like, 816 00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:07,594 "Even though you wanna know what I play and play like me, 817 00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,972 "you know, always have your own sound. 818 00:32:09,972 --> 00:32:11,682 "Don't ever wanna be like nobody else. 819 00:32:11,682 --> 00:32:13,559 "Don't ever wanna sound like nobody else. 820 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,687 "You know, just develop something that's your own off of, 821 00:32:16,687 --> 00:32:18,730 you know, what you learn." 822 00:32:18,730 --> 00:32:20,274 CHRIS' MOM: Me looking from the outside in, 823 00:32:20,816 --> 00:32:22,651 I could say his father was a, uh, 824 00:32:22,651 --> 00:32:24,820 a-- and still is, an awesome musician. 825 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,114 So when I look at it, 826 00:32:27,114 --> 00:32:29,783 how many things could he have shown Christopher? 827 00:32:29,783 --> 00:32:31,493 There were a lot of things that 828 00:32:31,493 --> 00:32:34,454 I know he could have been taught, 829 00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:36,290 or he could have learned from his dad. 830 00:32:37,124 --> 00:32:38,458 I think I was the last person you probably talked to 831 00:32:38,458 --> 00:32:39,877 before you actually-- CHRIS' DAD: Left. 832 00:32:39,877 --> 00:32:41,128 Maybe walked away and left. 833 00:32:41,128 --> 00:32:42,588 You know, like the last time we saw him 834 00:32:42,588 --> 00:32:46,383 before we would see him, uh, incarcerated and have to visit him. 835 00:32:46,383 --> 00:32:48,177 I think the last time I saw him before then was like, 836 00:32:48,177 --> 00:32:50,679 watching him walk on the driveway kinda confused, 837 00:32:50,679 --> 00:32:52,347 but I know the last thing he said to me, he was like, 838 00:32:52,347 --> 00:32:53,307 "Everything's gonna be alright. 839 00:32:53,307 --> 00:32:54,224 Don't worry about it." 840 00:32:54,224 --> 00:32:55,726 And, uh-- CHRIS' DAD: Well, did I lie? 841 00:32:55,726 --> 00:32:56,935 No, you didn't lie. 842 00:32:56,935 --> 00:32:59,479 It wasn't, it wasn't alright for a long time, you know. 843 00:32:59,479 --> 00:33:01,023 - But such is life. - But it turned out alright. 844 00:33:01,023 --> 00:33:02,441 Um, but you gotta go through those things 845 00:33:02,441 --> 00:33:03,734 in order for it to be alright. 846 00:33:03,734 --> 00:33:06,528 You'll never know what alright is if you don't see it all the way through. 847 00:33:06,528 --> 00:33:08,238 - CHRIS' DAD: Exactly. - And I'm really glad that we did. 848 00:33:08,238 --> 00:33:09,823 We did. And made it the rest of the way. CHRIS' DAD: Exactly. 849 00:33:09,823 --> 00:33:10,657 Yeah. 850 00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:12,701 That's a good father. 851 00:33:12,701 --> 00:33:13,702 I appreciate it. 852 00:33:13,702 --> 00:33:15,287 - Love you. - I love you, too. 853 00:33:15,287 --> 00:33:17,289 ♪ 854 00:33:17,289 --> 00:33:20,501 I think that's always gonna be a part of Chris that 855 00:33:20,501 --> 00:33:21,627 is untouchable, 856 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,839 because I think he closed himself off 857 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,133 in many ways while I was gone 858 00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:29,760 because he didn't know how to deal. 859 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,096 ♪ 860 00:33:33,096 --> 00:33:36,058 CHRIS: Holding it in definitely does seem better a lot of times. 861 00:33:36,058 --> 00:33:38,685 You're more comfortable when you're holding it in because nobody knows. 862 00:33:39,353 --> 00:33:40,812 As long as you don't deal with it, 863 00:33:40,812 --> 00:33:43,398 you think that it'll just go away, you know, 864 00:33:43,398 --> 00:33:44,983 but it's not going away. 865 00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:46,693 It's actually festering and growing, you know. 866 00:33:47,528 --> 00:33:50,280 So, as easy as it was to hold it in, 867 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,741 at some point, it-- I would have to let it out, 868 00:33:52,741 --> 00:33:53,992 you know, and deal with it. 869 00:33:55,577 --> 00:33:59,414 Chris is like me, we don't show emotion and stuff like that. 870 00:33:59,873 --> 00:34:02,501 Chris would more or less put in his music. 871 00:34:02,501 --> 00:34:04,253 He don't have to say it, but you'll hear it. 872 00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:08,715 People sit back and say, "Oh, music's just music." 873 00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:10,759 Nah, music is life to us. 874 00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:13,679 Because without the music we'd probably be somewhere 875 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:14,680 we don't wanna be. 876 00:34:18,684 --> 00:34:22,646 STIXX: I definitely do think Chris has the capability to be a leader. 877 00:34:22,646 --> 00:34:24,940 I know things make it hard for him 878 00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:29,069 as far as being able to push certain things 879 00:34:29,069 --> 00:34:32,239 because he has a million and one things going on right now. 880 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,867 So, you know, you kinda gotta stay on top of him, like, 881 00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,911 "Yo, Chris, don't forget, bro, we gotta do this." 882 00:34:38,579 --> 00:34:40,831 ZAYTOVEN: The hurtful part for musicians 883 00:34:40,831 --> 00:34:43,584 is the money or the compensation. 884 00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:46,962 As a musician, it feels good to play the music 885 00:34:46,962 --> 00:34:48,881 in front of all these different people, 886 00:34:48,881 --> 00:34:51,091 but when it comes down to the money, 887 00:34:51,091 --> 00:34:53,468 it's like, it's not-- it's almost not worth it. 888 00:34:54,678 --> 00:34:57,264 I was gonna go to Whiskey and just play there and have fun, but, 889 00:34:58,432 --> 00:35:00,976 then they called and said they needed somebody to play. 890 00:35:00,976 --> 00:35:03,645 So, now it's turned into a gig, turned into work now. 891 00:35:03,645 --> 00:35:06,356 So, ain't got no choice really. 892 00:35:06,356 --> 00:35:08,525 Wanted to make some money to pay some bills. 893 00:35:09,902 --> 00:35:11,320 CHRIS' MOM: Most gifted people, 894 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,613 they're one-track mind, 895 00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:14,990 they're-- their mind is on their gift. 896 00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:17,534 Their mind is on what they want 897 00:35:17,534 --> 00:35:18,869 and what they're dreaming of. 898 00:35:18,869 --> 00:35:21,955 [door rattling, squeaking] 899 00:35:21,955 --> 00:35:23,874 CHRIS' MOM: Christopher is not a selfish person, 900 00:35:23,874 --> 00:35:27,836 but I see where sometimes his gift will cloud him 901 00:35:27,836 --> 00:35:30,214 of other things that are going on in life. 902 00:35:31,632 --> 00:35:33,509 CHRIS: What's the ETA for The Cats, 8:45? 903 00:35:33,509 --> 00:35:34,343 PERSON: Yeah. CHRIS: Cool. 904 00:35:34,343 --> 00:35:35,177 He supposed to start at 9:00. 905 00:35:35,177 --> 00:35:36,386 He probably won't start till 9:30. 906 00:35:37,179 --> 00:35:38,013 [indistinct chatter] 907 00:35:38,013 --> 00:35:39,306 CHRIS: Where the bottle at? 908 00:35:39,306 --> 00:35:41,725 KEVIN MCKINNERY: When it comes down to music career-wise, 909 00:35:41,725 --> 00:35:43,101 nothing's easy. 910 00:35:43,101 --> 00:35:44,686 You have to really put in your dues, 911 00:35:45,979 --> 00:35:49,942 playing, going out, marketing yourself. 912 00:35:50,859 --> 00:35:53,612 If anybody ever tell you that that's easy, they're lying. 913 00:35:53,612 --> 00:35:55,948 Can you grab that stand, please? Thank you. 914 00:35:56,406 --> 00:35:57,324 I'm sorry. 915 00:36:00,911 --> 00:36:01,787 Uh-oh. 916 00:36:01,787 --> 00:36:02,829 PERSON 2: You gonna push it down. 917 00:36:02,829 --> 00:36:03,872 CHRIS: You wanna go backwards? PERSON 2: Yeah, back. 918 00:36:03,872 --> 00:36:05,165 CHRIS: I didn't want it to be on top of your stuff. 919 00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:05,999 PERSON 2: No. 920 00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:07,876 CHRIS: Maybe I can hold it in front of me. 921 00:36:07,876 --> 00:36:08,710 PERSON 2: See? 922 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:10,796 CHRIS: And being on tour with all these, all the celebrities, 923 00:36:10,796 --> 00:36:13,423 you know, it's fun to do that, but it's just, it was, it's a job. 924 00:36:13,423 --> 00:36:15,175 EMCEE [on microphone]: Cafe 290, what's happening? 925 00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:17,719 How's everybody feeling on this Friday evening? 926 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,054 Y'all alright? 927 00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:19,930 AUDIENCE: Yeah. 928 00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,057 EMCEE: You all sit back and enjoy yourselves. 929 00:36:22,057 --> 00:36:23,100 [applause] 930 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,727 CHRIS: It's very important to me that when I'm gone, 931 00:36:25,727 --> 00:36:27,771 like, there's something that y'all gonna say. 932 00:36:27,771 --> 00:36:30,232 Like, if there's one thing Chris wanted to be carried on, 933 00:36:30,232 --> 00:36:31,191 what would it be? 934 00:36:31,191 --> 00:36:32,818 And it's gonna be an easy answer for everybody. 935 00:36:32,818 --> 00:36:35,654 It's gonna be Trap Jazz, like keep that shit going. 936 00:36:36,822 --> 00:36:40,158 ♪ gentle piano music playing ♪ 937 00:36:40,158 --> 00:36:45,622 ♪ 938 00:36:45,622 --> 00:36:47,207 With this particular song, 939 00:36:47,207 --> 00:36:49,042 the melody was the first thing I came up with. 940 00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:50,794 ♪ 941 00:36:50,794 --> 00:36:54,089 Whitney Houston does this one run that everybody stole. 942 00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:55,716 Like, if you are a great singer 943 00:36:55,716 --> 00:36:57,676 and you, like, riff a lot with your voice, 944 00:36:58,343 --> 00:37:00,387 or try to be acrobatic or whatever, 945 00:37:00,387 --> 00:37:02,014 you gonna do this run all the time. 946 00:37:02,014 --> 00:37:04,975 ♪ plays piano notes ♪ 947 00:37:04,975 --> 00:37:06,059 You know what I'm saying? 948 00:37:06,059 --> 00:37:07,936 So I wanted to find something that people can relate to 949 00:37:07,936 --> 00:37:09,104 and that they can sing. 950 00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:10,814 And then when that, when I'm not doing that, 951 00:37:10,814 --> 00:37:13,275 then I'll play some other stuff and go crazy. 952 00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:15,652 But, for that melody, when I was playing it-- 953 00:37:15,652 --> 00:37:17,112 ♪ plays high-pitched note ♪ 954 00:37:17,112 --> 00:37:18,488 I just heard it like that. 955 00:37:18,488 --> 00:37:19,823 ♪ 956 00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:21,074 ♪ plays high-pitched note ♪ 957 00:37:21,074 --> 00:37:22,159 And I knew that wasn't it, 958 00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:23,368 I was like, there's gotta be more. 959 00:37:23,952 --> 00:37:25,495 ♪ plays high-pitched note ♪ 960 00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:27,247 ♪ jazz piano music playing ♪ 961 00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:28,916 ♪ 962 00:37:28,916 --> 00:37:29,875 Now repeat that. 963 00:37:29,875 --> 00:37:30,876 ♪ 964 00:37:30,876 --> 00:37:32,836 I knew that I needed to find something. 965 00:37:32,836 --> 00:37:34,338 If people are gonna like Trap Jazz, they gonna be able, 966 00:37:34,338 --> 00:37:35,464 they have to be able to sing it. 967 00:37:35,464 --> 00:37:37,257 'Cause the reason why they don't listen to jazz now 968 00:37:37,257 --> 00:37:38,217 is 'cause they can't sing it. 969 00:37:39,134 --> 00:37:39,968 They don't understand it. 970 00:37:39,968 --> 00:37:40,969 It's too much going on. 971 00:37:40,969 --> 00:37:41,845 It's like all this. 972 00:37:41,845 --> 00:37:44,264 ♪ playing fast-paced jazz music ♪ 973 00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:47,643 ♪ 974 00:37:47,643 --> 00:37:49,019 Man, you can't sing that. 975 00:37:49,019 --> 00:37:51,522 I mean, it's all a part of, like, making sure that to me, 976 00:37:51,522 --> 00:37:54,024 make sure people feel like what they would normally feel 977 00:37:54,024 --> 00:37:55,400 in a rap song. 978 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,277 Like, if, if they don't feel like they're not gonna label it 979 00:37:57,277 --> 00:37:59,279 the same type of music, you know, 980 00:37:59,279 --> 00:38:01,365 so if they feel like this is a rap song 981 00:38:01,365 --> 00:38:04,409 and like some girls is up on the couches and chairs 982 00:38:04,409 --> 00:38:06,578 twerking, shakin' their ass, like, I like that. 983 00:38:07,412 --> 00:38:10,040 You know, because I feel like they're-they're-they're doing 984 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,210 what they would normally do in a rap concert, 985 00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:14,878 and if they're doing that at a jazz concert, 986 00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:15,963 we've accomplished something. 987 00:38:15,963 --> 00:38:18,590 ♪ 988 00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:20,259 ♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪ 989 00:38:20,259 --> 00:38:23,554 ♪ 990 00:38:23,554 --> 00:38:25,097 PRETTY KEN: Music is a feeling. 991 00:38:25,097 --> 00:38:28,392 So when you're trying to mesh two different feelings together, 992 00:38:28,392 --> 00:38:30,853 you really have to find somethin' special. 993 00:38:30,853 --> 00:38:32,354 You really have to find the groove. 994 00:38:32,354 --> 00:38:33,480 You really have to find it. 995 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,067 ♪ 996 00:38:37,067 --> 00:38:40,654 Because jazz is such a calming coolness. 997 00:38:40,654 --> 00:38:43,448 It's the unstructured playing 998 00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:46,994 and just, it's that movement of the music. 999 00:38:47,953 --> 00:38:52,291 Trap, it's nothing movin', it's just a vibe. 1000 00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:54,168 ♪ 1001 00:38:54,168 --> 00:38:57,713 So you're trying to blend this energy with this energy 1002 00:38:58,839 --> 00:38:59,840 and it's gonna be hard. 1003 00:39:00,632 --> 00:39:03,093 CHRIS: What makes it hard is not having 1004 00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:05,971 lyrical content in the music. 1005 00:39:05,971 --> 00:39:07,389 If the song feels sad, 1006 00:39:07,389 --> 00:39:09,892 then typically it's gonna be sad lyrics. 1007 00:39:09,892 --> 00:39:12,728 So the music will always go hand in hand with the lyrics 1008 00:39:12,728 --> 00:39:15,606 and us not having the lyrics in the music, 1009 00:39:15,606 --> 00:39:17,733 is kinda tough to get people to understand 1010 00:39:17,733 --> 00:39:20,694 what it sounds like or what we're trying to say 1011 00:39:20,694 --> 00:39:22,029 if we're not using words. 1012 00:39:22,029 --> 00:39:23,155 ♪ 1013 00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:25,574 YUNG JOC: For people to really take the music serious 1014 00:39:26,158 --> 00:39:27,784 or to really move with the music, 1015 00:39:27,784 --> 00:39:29,161 ♪ 1016 00:39:29,161 --> 00:39:30,996 I gotta relate, 1017 00:39:30,996 --> 00:39:33,040 and I think that's one of the hardest parts of being a artist, 1018 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,251 is trying to figure out how to bring people together 1019 00:39:36,251 --> 00:39:37,503 and get on one accord. 1020 00:39:45,636 --> 00:39:46,470 [pool ball clacks] 1021 00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:48,055 Oh, wow. CHRIS: Damn, that's crazy. 1022 00:39:48,055 --> 00:39:49,765 CASSIUS: See I do the, I do the hard part. 1023 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:51,892 My job is to produce, 1024 00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:54,102 my job is to make the trap beats. 1025 00:39:54,102 --> 00:39:56,563 Chris' job is to, to do the jazz. 1026 00:39:56,563 --> 00:39:58,023 Chris is a jazz musician. 1027 00:39:58,023 --> 00:40:01,401 It's my job and it's-it's my calling 1028 00:40:01,401 --> 00:40:02,778 to make sure I help all my brothers. 1029 00:40:02,778 --> 00:40:05,113 It's my job to help them. It's my job to give them beats. 1030 00:40:05,113 --> 00:40:07,699 They want the beats they just afraid to ask. 1031 00:40:07,699 --> 00:40:08,867 STIXX: For sure. 1032 00:40:08,867 --> 00:40:09,701 CASSIUS: And I don't know if y'all-- 1033 00:40:09,701 --> 00:40:12,287 I wasn't afraid, I called him 20,000 times. 1034 00:40:12,287 --> 00:40:15,040 - I sent 'em a track call Red. - Red. 1035 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,667 STIXX: The Red. Hey, Red go hard. 1036 00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:17,876 - Wait till y'all hear Red. - It go hard now. 1037 00:40:17,876 --> 00:40:20,128 - We gonna play Red Tuesday at the show. - Yeah. 1038 00:40:20,128 --> 00:40:21,755 I've created probably six different, 1039 00:40:21,755 --> 00:40:23,465 seven different shows. 1040 00:40:23,465 --> 00:40:26,176 But this one that we're gonna do is a show that we never done before. 1041 00:40:26,844 --> 00:40:28,637 CASSIUS: What songs are y'all playing though for real, for real? 1042 00:40:28,637 --> 00:40:29,972 Man, we gonna play Scream. 1043 00:40:29,972 --> 00:40:31,181 - CHRIS: Royalty. - It's the original. 1044 00:40:31,181 --> 00:40:33,892 Royalty, Cassius produced it, Young Dolph. 1045 00:40:33,892 --> 00:40:35,519 We gonna play Boot Up, of course. 1046 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,229 We gotta really bring out all the stops, 1047 00:40:37,229 --> 00:40:38,355 you know, we gotta go crazy, 1048 00:40:38,355 --> 00:40:41,859 you know, we gotta really play and let them know that this is Atlanta. 1049 00:40:41,859 --> 00:40:43,318 This is what we sound like. This is what we do. 1050 00:40:43,318 --> 00:40:47,114 It's gonna provide a bunch of new opportunities 1051 00:40:47,114 --> 00:40:50,742 and big old doors for us to knock down and run through. 1052 00:40:50,742 --> 00:40:52,536 That's really big for us. 1053 00:40:52,536 --> 00:40:55,122 Definitely one of the biggest things we've done. 1054 00:40:55,122 --> 00:40:56,874 CASSIUS: When I think of jazz, I think of older, 1055 00:40:56,874 --> 00:40:58,709 the older community. 1056 00:40:58,709 --> 00:41:00,460 I don't think of the young community. 1057 00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:03,589 Young people don't listen to jazz, they listen to trap music. 1058 00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:07,092 So now we get to bring the older generation into trap music. 1059 00:41:07,092 --> 00:41:11,972 So I think Trap Jazz is gonna bring a whole 'nother community together. 1060 00:41:12,389 --> 00:41:13,557 STIXX: For sure. 1061 00:41:13,557 --> 00:41:16,518 ♪ playing slow drum and percussion notes ♪ 1062 00:41:16,518 --> 00:41:22,274 ♪ 1063 00:41:22,274 --> 00:41:24,318 ♪ notes grow louder ♪ 1064 00:41:24,318 --> 00:41:26,820 ♪ piano joins drums and percussion ♪ 1065 00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:28,488 PERSON 1: I am not a fan of jazz music. 1066 00:41:28,488 --> 00:41:30,365 My mother is a fan of jazz music. 1067 00:41:30,365 --> 00:41:31,700 I've never got into it. 1068 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,619 ♪ 1069 00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:36,496 PERSON 2: I'm not open to learning more about jazz. 1070 00:41:36,496 --> 00:41:39,625 It's like something that I never 1071 00:41:39,625 --> 00:41:41,001 was interested in hearing. 1072 00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,962 ♪ music grows peppy ♪ 1073 00:41:43,962 --> 00:41:45,130 LALAH HATHAWAY: You know, If you go to places 1074 00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:47,132 that you're supposed to be kinda classy, 1075 00:41:47,132 --> 00:41:48,592 there's-there's jazz, 1076 00:41:48,592 --> 00:41:52,888 but there's not really, um, an appreciation in this country 1077 00:41:52,888 --> 00:41:54,723 as a whole for that. 1078 00:41:54,723 --> 00:41:56,016 ♪ 1079 00:41:56,016 --> 00:41:57,226 RAY MURRAY: Has cobwebs on it, 1080 00:41:57,226 --> 00:42:00,938 which is why people run from embracing it. 1081 00:42:00,938 --> 00:42:03,690 It's the term, it's not what it is. 1082 00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:06,985 It's your instant visualization. 1083 00:42:07,611 --> 00:42:08,695 When you say "jazz," 1084 00:42:08,695 --> 00:42:10,864 you think of a bunch of people snapping their fingers 1085 00:42:10,864 --> 00:42:12,824 and somebody on stage. 1086 00:42:12,824 --> 00:42:15,160 That's an old reference and it's stereotype. 1087 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,789 ♪ peppy piano music playing ♪ 1088 00:42:18,789 --> 00:42:21,792 ♪ percussion and sax joins piano ♪ 1089 00:42:21,792 --> 00:42:23,919 ♪ music tempo increases ♪ 1090 00:42:23,919 --> 00:42:25,087 ♪ 1091 00:42:25,087 --> 00:42:30,717 DORATHA "DODIE" SMITH-SIMMONS: Jazz used to spell J-A-S-S. 1092 00:42:31,343 --> 00:42:32,970 Do you know what that stood for? 1093 00:42:33,637 --> 00:42:35,848 Jackass music. 1094 00:42:35,848 --> 00:42:37,766 That's what white folks called it 1095 00:42:37,766 --> 00:42:41,770 as one white musician told me in polite society. 1096 00:42:41,770 --> 00:42:43,981 ♪ 1097 00:42:43,981 --> 00:42:46,233 CHIEF XIAN ATUNDE ADJUAH: In that space, it meant one thing. 1098 00:42:46,233 --> 00:42:50,863 In larger space, I think when people use the word "jazz," 1099 00:42:50,863 --> 00:42:53,532 really they're talking about creative improvised music. 1100 00:42:53,532 --> 00:42:54,533 ♪ 1101 00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:56,743 SONNY EMORY: Jazz is different than any other genre, 1102 00:42:56,743 --> 00:42:58,829 just simply because of the freedom 1103 00:42:58,829 --> 00:43:00,664 that it allows the player to have. 1104 00:43:00,664 --> 00:43:02,332 There are no boundaries in jazz. 1105 00:43:02,332 --> 00:43:04,126 ♪ fast-paced jazz music playing ♪ [audience cheers and applause] 1106 00:43:04,126 --> 00:43:07,963 CHRIS: I used to watch these jazz videos of, um, 1107 00:43:07,963 --> 00:43:11,049 Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis, 1108 00:43:11,049 --> 00:43:13,927 Jelly Roll Morton, Pagnell, Art Tatum, 1109 00:43:13,927 --> 00:43:15,846 Oscar Peterson, who was my favorite. 1110 00:43:16,388 --> 00:43:18,307 He's my favorite piano player in the whole wide world, 1111 00:43:18,307 --> 00:43:19,641 Oscar Peterson. 1112 00:43:19,641 --> 00:43:23,478 I was listening to all these amazing jazz musicians, 1113 00:43:23,478 --> 00:43:25,898 and what I really loved about them 1114 00:43:25,898 --> 00:43:27,441 was it seemed like when they were playing 1115 00:43:27,441 --> 00:43:29,610 they didn't have to play a certain thing. 1116 00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:31,987 It was like structured chaos, you know. 1117 00:43:31,987 --> 00:43:34,406 It was like they knew what to play 1118 00:43:34,406 --> 00:43:37,242 but they was coming up with it as they was playing it. 1119 00:43:37,242 --> 00:43:39,870 That's what really made me like jazz the most. 1120 00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:40,787 ♪ 1121 00:43:40,787 --> 00:43:43,373 CHIEF XIAN: There's this air about it that you could make an argument 1122 00:43:43,373 --> 00:43:45,626 that it's arguably the most sophisticated 1123 00:43:45,626 --> 00:43:48,003 sonic art form in the world. 1124 00:43:48,003 --> 00:43:49,671 But it-- there's also this air about it 1125 00:43:49,671 --> 00:43:51,215 where it's, like, it comes from Black people, 1126 00:43:51,215 --> 00:43:53,550 so it can't be that sophisticated and nuanced. 1127 00:43:54,259 --> 00:43:57,387 MR. ROBERT COLN: Growing up as a kid and being African American, 1128 00:43:57,387 --> 00:43:59,723 the things that you listen to are very limited. 1129 00:43:59,723 --> 00:44:00,724 ♪ 1130 00:44:00,724 --> 00:44:02,976 On a normal day, and during that time, 1131 00:44:02,976 --> 00:44:05,270 you couldn't even put your face on a album cover, 1132 00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:08,398 much let's say you gonna go somewhere and play. 1133 00:44:08,398 --> 00:44:12,653 Jazz got the African American musician out into being seen, 1134 00:44:12,653 --> 00:44:14,154 and that was done through... 1135 00:44:14,154 --> 00:44:15,197 [camera shutters snapping] 1136 00:44:15,489 --> 00:44:16,490 MR. COLN: ...Al Capone, 1137 00:44:17,366 --> 00:44:19,535 and all of the gangsters. 1138 00:44:19,535 --> 00:44:21,828 And they would ask the Black musicians to come in and play jazz 1139 00:44:21,828 --> 00:44:23,956 because that's what they liked. 1140 00:44:24,915 --> 00:44:26,416 But jazz has a origin, too. 1141 00:44:27,543 --> 00:44:28,377 Gospel. 1142 00:44:28,377 --> 00:44:31,672 VOCALIST [singing]: ♪ Trouble in my way ♪ CHOIR [sings]: ♪ Trouble in my way ♪ 1143 00:44:31,672 --> 00:44:35,384 - ♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪ - ♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪ 1144 00:44:35,384 --> 00:44:36,301 ♪ Trouble in my way, yeah ♪ 1145 00:44:36,301 --> 00:44:38,220 ♪ Trouble in my way ♪ 1146 00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:40,806 ♪ I have to cry sometimes ♪ 1147 00:44:40,806 --> 00:44:43,016 MR. COLN: Gospel has an origin too, the blues. 1148 00:44:43,016 --> 00:44:44,685 CHOIR: ♪ I lay awake at night ♪ 1149 00:44:44,685 --> 00:44:46,812 Blues has an origin, slaves. 1150 00:44:46,812 --> 00:44:48,438 CHOIR: ♪ That's alright ♪ 1151 00:44:48,438 --> 00:44:51,149 JAZZE PHA: Gospel is the sole provider 1152 00:44:51,149 --> 00:44:53,068 of everything that we do, 1153 00:44:53,068 --> 00:44:56,113 because as children we come from Sunday school. 1154 00:44:56,113 --> 00:44:58,615 ♪ upbeat gospel music playing ♪ 1155 00:44:58,615 --> 00:44:59,658 [singing] ♪ When the gates ♪ 1156 00:44:59,658 --> 00:45:00,993 CHOIR [sings]: ♪ When the gates ♪ 1157 00:45:00,993 --> 00:45:02,619 ♪ Swing open ♪ 1158 00:45:02,619 --> 00:45:04,830 CHOIR: ♪ Ohh ♪ 1159 00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,666 ♪ indistinct singing ♪ 1160 00:45:07,666 --> 00:45:09,251 ♪ 1161 00:45:09,251 --> 00:45:12,129 STIXX: Church has bred so many musicians in secular music. 1162 00:45:12,129 --> 00:45:14,047 It's a spiritual thing, man. 1163 00:45:14,047 --> 00:45:16,383 You know, just God blessing us. 1164 00:45:16,383 --> 00:45:18,677 Church is definitely, like, a great learning tool 1165 00:45:18,677 --> 00:45:21,972 and a great starting point for a lot of musicians 1166 00:45:21,972 --> 00:45:25,184 to really see if this is what they wanna do in life. 1167 00:45:25,184 --> 00:45:29,271 ♪ Every day I wish you'd just teach me ♪ 1168 00:45:29,271 --> 00:45:30,647 ZAYTOVEN: When they create music, 1169 00:45:30,647 --> 00:45:33,650 it has a different passion, it has a different soul, 1170 00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:35,444 has a different heartbeat to it 1171 00:45:35,444 --> 00:45:36,778 than just somebody that just, 1172 00:45:36,778 --> 00:45:38,447 you know, that didn't grow up in church at all. 1173 00:45:39,448 --> 00:45:40,866 CHIEF XIAN: They're responding to the energy, 1174 00:45:40,866 --> 00:45:44,953 and the vibration in the space is important. 1175 00:45:44,953 --> 00:45:48,123 So if you've ever been to a Baptist church in Louisiana, 1176 00:45:48,123 --> 00:45:49,750 you are going to feel some things. 1177 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:51,585 I don't-- You know, you could actually think 1178 00:45:51,585 --> 00:45:54,880 that you may be the most heartless person walking the planet, 1179 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,841 and walk into that environment and it's a sound, man. 1180 00:45:57,841 --> 00:45:58,926 ♪ 1181 00:45:58,926 --> 00:46:00,302 ♪ I know that you've been praying ♪ 1182 00:46:00,302 --> 00:46:01,595 CASSIUS: Church, that's our foundation. 1183 00:46:01,595 --> 00:46:02,721 That's what have us grounded, 1184 00:46:03,263 --> 00:46:04,598 Stixx, Chris and all them. 1185 00:46:05,057 --> 00:46:07,643 CHRIS: In our music I want people to know that we from the church. 1186 00:46:07,643 --> 00:46:09,144 CASSIUS: We, we know where we came from. 1187 00:46:09,144 --> 00:46:10,646 ♪ I got some news... ♪ 1188 00:46:10,646 --> 00:46:12,397 LIL' JOHN ROBERTS: I went from church gospel music 1189 00:46:12,397 --> 00:46:13,690 to playing straight ahead jazz, 1190 00:46:13,690 --> 00:46:16,068 and then jumping into the R&B world. 1191 00:46:16,068 --> 00:46:18,070 You know, I see these guys doing the same thing, 1192 00:46:18,070 --> 00:46:19,196 like going from church, 1193 00:46:19,196 --> 00:46:20,822 now they're doing the trap stuff and all. 1194 00:46:20,822 --> 00:46:25,077 So, I like to see, you know, the variety mixed into their music. 1195 00:46:25,077 --> 00:46:30,249 Jazz, rhythm and blues, funk, fusion, hip-hop, trap, 1196 00:46:30,249 --> 00:46:32,626 they are all an expression from the street, 1197 00:46:32,626 --> 00:46:35,712 from people saying, "Here-here's what we wanna put into this. 1198 00:46:35,712 --> 00:46:37,965 "We want to interject this into the conversation. 1199 00:46:37,965 --> 00:46:39,174 We want our voices heard." 1200 00:46:39,174 --> 00:46:40,926 What is trap music? What does it do? 1201 00:46:41,426 --> 00:46:43,971 ♪ I don't do the most, but I do a lot ♪ 1202 00:46:44,847 --> 00:46:47,391 ♪ I'ma make a toast 'cause we still alive ♪ 1203 00:46:47,391 --> 00:46:49,184 CASSIUS: Trap music is the new pop music. 1204 00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:52,104 Like, you don't hear too much people talking about pop no more. 1205 00:46:52,104 --> 00:46:52,938 ♪ I shoot the shot ♪ 1206 00:46:52,938 --> 00:46:53,772 ♪ Brr, brr, brr ♪ 1207 00:46:53,772 --> 00:46:55,148 ♪ I'm coming in hot ♪ 1208 00:46:55,148 --> 00:47:00,487 ♪ 1209 00:47:00,487 --> 00:47:02,072 CASSIUS: Urban music is the biggest thing right now. 1210 00:47:02,072 --> 00:47:03,574 Everybody wanna be Young Thug. 1211 00:47:03,574 --> 00:47:05,701 STIXX: Trap music is Atlanta. 1212 00:47:05,701 --> 00:47:06,827 That's our sound. 1213 00:47:06,827 --> 00:47:09,913 That's how it has taken over, like, our city and our culture. 1214 00:47:09,913 --> 00:47:10,998 You know, I love it. 1215 00:47:11,456 --> 00:47:12,291 ♪ 1216 00:47:12,291 --> 00:47:13,917 [sirens wailing] [helicopter whirring] 1217 00:47:13,917 --> 00:47:17,171 ♪ 1218 00:47:17,171 --> 00:47:19,756 CASSIUS: The trap is hood stuff, gangster stuff, 1219 00:47:19,756 --> 00:47:22,801 gangs and drugs and guns, 1220 00:47:22,801 --> 00:47:24,511 and trap is the ghetto. 1221 00:47:24,511 --> 00:47:26,180 Once you in there, you in there, 1222 00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:27,514 there ain't no coming out. 1223 00:47:27,514 --> 00:47:28,891 It's a trap. 1224 00:47:29,308 --> 00:47:30,726 The house I grew up in, 1225 00:47:30,726 --> 00:47:33,770 literally right across the street was a trap house, 1226 00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:34,646 right next door. 1227 00:47:34,646 --> 00:47:36,523 Like, it just was a way of life. 1228 00:47:36,523 --> 00:47:40,068 That's all they knew, was how to sell drugs. 1229 00:47:40,068 --> 00:47:42,988 You gotta be in the trap to make trap music, man. 1230 00:47:42,988 --> 00:47:45,949 But this is where this shit started from though. Know what I'm saying? 1231 00:47:45,949 --> 00:47:47,367 This where this shit started from. 1232 00:47:47,367 --> 00:47:48,744 Trap music could be anything either. 1233 00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:49,620 Ain't gonna lie to you, 1234 00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:51,371 we talking about trap music it's been a little trap. 1235 00:47:51,371 --> 00:47:52,539 INTERVIEWER: It did? 1236 00:47:52,539 --> 00:47:53,498 So what trap mean to you? 1237 00:47:53,498 --> 00:47:55,751 The real trap is survival. 1238 00:47:56,168 --> 00:47:58,629 Man, there's a whole lot of narcotics on the, on the mix tape, man. 1239 00:47:58,629 --> 00:48:00,506 You know what I mean? You just spin your drug lingo, 1240 00:48:00,506 --> 00:48:05,469 you spin the discrete side of your lifestyle on music. 1241 00:48:05,469 --> 00:48:07,804 My second album was the first time the word "trap" 1242 00:48:07,804 --> 00:48:10,224 and the word "music" was combined. 1243 00:48:10,224 --> 00:48:12,935 The album meant to represent a large group of people 1244 00:48:12,935 --> 00:48:15,812 who were doing the same shit that I was doing, 1245 00:48:15,812 --> 00:48:17,940 and wasn't nobody speaking for 'em at the time. 1246 00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:20,317 You inspire them and let them know that 1247 00:48:20,317 --> 00:48:22,027 you too could come from that wreckage 1248 00:48:22,027 --> 00:48:26,073 and make something of the skills that you've acquired 1249 00:48:26,073 --> 00:48:27,324 and take it somewhere else. 1250 00:48:27,324 --> 00:48:30,244 I didn't go into making that album 1251 00:48:30,244 --> 00:48:32,746 as thinking that the world needed trap music. 1252 00:48:32,746 --> 00:48:35,791 I went into it thinking the niggas in the trap 1253 00:48:35,791 --> 00:48:37,417 needed trap music. [chuckles] 1254 00:48:37,417 --> 00:48:41,839 People think that it's strictly about, you know, selling drugs. 1255 00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:43,298 It-It might have stemmed from that, 1256 00:48:43,298 --> 00:48:44,883 but that's not all it is. 1257 00:48:44,883 --> 00:48:47,135 CASSIUS: If it wasn't for Zaytoven, there wouldn't be a Cassius. 1258 00:48:47,135 --> 00:48:50,472 And there's another way, I met Zaytoven at church. 1259 00:48:50,472 --> 00:48:53,475 Everything I came across was at church, church, church, church, church. 1260 00:48:53,475 --> 00:48:55,060 That's why I still play at church. 1261 00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:56,895 I started making beats like Zaytoven. 1262 00:48:57,563 --> 00:48:59,481 Everything he did, I would mimic, I would sit right there. 1263 00:48:59,481 --> 00:49:01,191 He had an MPC, I went and bought an MPC. 1264 00:49:01,191 --> 00:49:03,902 He would go get, uh, Kronos keyboard, 1265 00:49:03,902 --> 00:49:06,071 I'd go save up me some money, get a Kronos keyboard. 1266 00:49:06,071 --> 00:49:08,031 At this time I don't really got too much of no money, 1267 00:49:08,031 --> 00:49:10,117 but I'm hanging with Zaytoven, since like, 1268 00:49:10,117 --> 00:49:12,202 if I wanna be like him, I gotta mimic him. 1269 00:49:12,202 --> 00:49:14,204 ♪ hip-hop beat playing ♪ 1270 00:49:14,204 --> 00:49:19,459 ♪ 1271 00:49:19,459 --> 00:49:21,295 ZAYTOVEN: My definition of trap music is, 1272 00:49:21,295 --> 00:49:25,048 it's motivational music, spontaneous music. 1273 00:49:25,048 --> 00:49:28,260 ♪ 1274 00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:29,887 It's unpolished music. 1275 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,139 STIXX: I think people are drawn to it 1276 00:49:32,139 --> 00:49:35,225 number one, because of how the beats sound, 1277 00:49:35,225 --> 00:49:37,227 that grimy sound is the trap sound. 1278 00:49:37,227 --> 00:49:39,646 You know, it make everybody dance soon as they hear it. 1279 00:49:40,355 --> 00:49:42,232 DJ TOOMP: Now you got effects that'll 1280 00:49:42,232 --> 00:49:43,942 take the music and warp it. 1281 00:49:43,942 --> 00:49:47,487 [imitates electronic beats warbling and warping] 1282 00:49:47,487 --> 00:49:49,031 And all the kinda filtering. 1283 00:49:49,031 --> 00:49:51,074 ♪ playing piano notes ♪ 1284 00:49:51,074 --> 00:49:56,371 ♪ 1285 00:49:56,371 --> 00:49:58,457 DJ TOOMP: It's a lot of technology, a lot of plugins, 1286 00:49:58,457 --> 00:50:01,668 a lot of different things that's really enhancing the sound basically. 1287 00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:05,214 DRUMMA BOY: It's the producers that are creating these new sounds, 1288 00:50:05,214 --> 00:50:08,133 creating these new waves for new artists, 1289 00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:10,677 really seeing the evolution. 1290 00:50:10,677 --> 00:50:12,304 And once you've seen the evolution, 1291 00:50:12,304 --> 00:50:15,390 you kinda can see how it's gonna keep going. 1292 00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:18,477 What I know of most of the jazz players 1293 00:50:18,477 --> 00:50:21,438 who are prolific and legendary, 1294 00:50:21,438 --> 00:50:23,357 they spent plenty of time in some traps. 1295 00:50:23,357 --> 00:50:25,067 [chuckles] You know what I'm saying? So-- 1296 00:50:26,443 --> 00:50:31,657 The drug dealer and the musician has been synonymous 1297 00:50:31,657 --> 00:50:32,866 since the beginnin' of time. 1298 00:50:34,243 --> 00:50:38,622 YUNG JOC: It's a body of so much pain, struggle, 1299 00:50:38,622 --> 00:50:41,333 but at the same time, success. 1300 00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:43,877 When you had people like T.I. talking about stuff 1301 00:50:43,877 --> 00:50:45,212 he was going through, 1302 00:50:46,505 --> 00:50:49,258 and then at the same time still talking about coming up, 1303 00:50:49,258 --> 00:50:50,634 it's not just gangster music. 1304 00:50:50,634 --> 00:50:52,427 I must live in left field somewhere. 1305 00:50:52,427 --> 00:50:55,097 I must be getting old. Trap. 1306 00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:00,435 Man, trap jazz, I couldn't believe nobody was doing it. 1307 00:51:00,435 --> 00:51:02,145 Remind me of Kenny G. 1308 00:51:02,145 --> 00:51:04,314 Remember Kenny G would do all Janet Jackson songs, 1309 00:51:04,314 --> 00:51:05,649 but he'd play it on his horn? 1310 00:51:05,649 --> 00:51:09,820 Well, I-I got a good, I got a good idea why they probably don't do it. 1311 00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:12,239 There's a lot of, you know, the old, 1312 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,740 you know, I call 'em the foggie stogies. 1313 00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:14,950 - CASSIUS: Okay. - You know what I'm saying? 1314 00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:17,661 They don't really want to mesh the two 1315 00:51:17,661 --> 00:51:22,457 because they feel like jazz is jazz, is to be revered and respected as, 1316 00:51:22,457 --> 00:51:25,127 you know, jazz is j-just jazz. CASSIUS: Right. 1317 00:51:25,127 --> 00:51:26,420 JAZZE PHA: It has a certain class to it. 1318 00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:27,254 Yes. 1319 00:51:27,254 --> 00:51:28,714 Jazz is very classy. CASSIUS: Right. 1320 00:51:28,714 --> 00:51:31,425 And so for, you know, some people, 1321 00:51:31,425 --> 00:51:34,970 a lot of "musicians and people," you know, might feel as classless. 1322 00:51:35,387 --> 00:51:38,265 People might think that, until they hear it, 1323 00:51:38,265 --> 00:51:39,600 and they feel it, 1324 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,019 and they see the effect that it has on people. 1325 00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:44,855 ♪ light, poignant music playing ♪ 1326 00:51:44,855 --> 00:51:46,732 ♪ 1327 00:51:46,732 --> 00:51:48,442 CHRIS: My first experience with jazz 1328 00:51:48,442 --> 00:51:50,861 was at Columbia High School with Mr. Coln. 1329 00:51:50,861 --> 00:51:52,237 ♪ 1330 00:51:52,237 --> 00:51:54,156 [school bell ringing] 1331 00:51:54,156 --> 00:51:56,158 ♪ 1332 00:51:56,158 --> 00:51:57,784 CHRIS: Those years was important I think. 1333 00:51:57,784 --> 00:51:59,870 ♪ 1334 00:51:59,870 --> 00:52:01,330 They really, like, molded me 1335 00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:04,291 and taught me how to have my own discipline 1336 00:52:04,291 --> 00:52:05,834 in learning music. 1337 00:52:05,834 --> 00:52:11,215 ♪ 1338 00:52:11,215 --> 00:52:15,552 Hey, Mr. Coln, aah! 1339 00:52:15,552 --> 00:52:16,720 Oh, my God. 1340 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,180 CHRIS: How are you, man? 1341 00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:19,848 - Good to see you. - What's up, dawg? 1342 00:52:19,848 --> 00:52:22,059 Okay, now explain this trap thing to me. 1343 00:52:22,059 --> 00:52:24,561 CHRIS: Alright, so, [clears throat] basically trap, 1344 00:52:24,561 --> 00:52:27,731 the trap part of it is, um, is basically the hood, 1345 00:52:27,731 --> 00:52:31,735 you know, like growing up in the, in the hood there's trap houses, 1346 00:52:31,735 --> 00:52:34,988 there's, you know, people talk, the rappers talking about trap 1347 00:52:34,988 --> 00:52:37,991 like, okay, like selling drugs, you know, 1348 00:52:37,991 --> 00:52:41,870 you know, the-the pimps and the prostitutes or whatever it is, 1349 00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:44,414 or whatever is going on in the hood, you know, color-- 1350 00:52:44,414 --> 00:52:45,958 What's the objective? 1351 00:52:45,958 --> 00:52:47,918 Um, the objective is to, 1352 00:52:47,918 --> 00:52:50,379 to provide the type of music for everybody. 1353 00:52:50,379 --> 00:52:52,256 So now is this more instrumental? 1354 00:52:52,256 --> 00:52:53,131 CHRIS: It's instrumental, yeah. 1355 00:52:53,131 --> 00:52:57,469 We got some, some artists wanting to, you know, put dibs in on, 1356 00:52:57,469 --> 00:53:00,055 you know, who the first rapper or singer is. 1357 00:53:00,055 --> 00:53:01,348 But it's clean? 1358 00:53:01,348 --> 00:53:03,725 It's clean, but there'll probably be some, 1359 00:53:03,725 --> 00:53:05,561 you know, slightly dirty raunchy moments, 1360 00:53:05,561 --> 00:53:07,646 because we don't wanna leave that out. 1361 00:53:07,646 --> 00:53:11,024 It's a, it's a part of what's going on in-in our world right now. 1362 00:53:11,024 --> 00:53:13,819 Okay, are, are these negative, degrading? 1363 00:53:13,819 --> 00:53:19,783 No. Um, I guess if you call, you know, partying, having a good time, you know. 1364 00:53:19,783 --> 00:53:21,577 MR. COLN: You ain't referencing no drugs or nothin' like that. 1365 00:53:21,577 --> 00:53:23,579 Nah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't put drugs in there, 1366 00:53:23,579 --> 00:53:25,330 but I would definitely want the songs-- 1367 00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:26,540 If somebody was to put lyrics on it, 1368 00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:29,918 I would want it to be about living your life, having fun. 1369 00:53:29,918 --> 00:53:32,171 Yep, and we gotta keep jazz in there. 1370 00:53:32,171 --> 00:53:33,839 That's what I didn't wanna leave out at all. 1371 00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:35,424 And you can write this on paper now? 1372 00:53:35,424 --> 00:53:36,550 CHRIS: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 1373 00:53:36,550 --> 00:53:38,510 [chuckles] We learned that, yeah, we learned that in high school. 1374 00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:39,761 Okay, now. CHRIS: We learned that. 1375 00:53:40,429 --> 00:53:42,181 Put it on paper, you know, okay. CHRIS: Yeah, we put it on paper. 1376 00:53:42,181 --> 00:53:43,140 We could write it out. 1377 00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:45,309 MR. COLN: Chris was like a isolated person, 1378 00:53:45,934 --> 00:53:47,811 and he was real quiet, laid back, 1379 00:53:47,811 --> 00:53:50,689 and I noticed him one day he was banging on the piano, 1380 00:53:50,689 --> 00:53:52,983 and I'm going, "Well, what are you playing?" 1381 00:53:52,983 --> 00:53:55,652 I was playing Brian McKnight, um, Anytime. 1382 00:53:55,652 --> 00:53:57,738 ♪ vocalizing ♪ 1383 00:53:57,738 --> 00:54:00,282 The females be like, "Oh, my God, this is my song! 1384 00:54:00,282 --> 00:54:01,366 Oh, my God, oh, my God." 1385 00:54:01,366 --> 00:54:02,409 They would come to the piano. 1386 00:54:02,409 --> 00:54:04,286 And he came up, he was like, 1387 00:54:04,286 --> 00:54:06,872 "Alright, Mr. Moten, you feel like you wanna show off? 1388 00:54:06,872 --> 00:54:08,832 You think you this, that and the other, alright." 1389 00:54:08,832 --> 00:54:13,003 And he put a blank piece of staff paper in front of me 1390 00:54:13,003 --> 00:54:14,713 and he was like, "Alright, since you think 1391 00:54:14,713 --> 00:54:16,715 "you're big and bad then," you know, 1392 00:54:17,132 --> 00:54:18,842 you know, "Why don't you write out the last 1393 00:54:18,842 --> 00:54:20,511 four measures of what you played?" 1394 00:54:20,511 --> 00:54:21,678 What I told Chris, said, "Look. 1395 00:54:21,678 --> 00:54:23,597 "You know where the keys are on the keyboards. 1396 00:54:23,597 --> 00:54:25,224 "You just gotta be able to transpose 1397 00:54:25,224 --> 00:54:27,476 what's on that paper to what your fingers are doing." 1398 00:54:27,476 --> 00:54:30,103 I think I almost cried but I didn't. 1399 00:54:30,103 --> 00:54:31,355 I was mad though, 1400 00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:32,523 because even the girls, 1401 00:54:32,523 --> 00:54:35,108 it was looking like, [clicks tongue] "Well, you can't write music, 1402 00:54:35,108 --> 00:54:36,818 you're not that fly," you know. 1403 00:54:36,818 --> 00:54:38,987 "You're not that dope, you're not that cute." 1404 00:54:38,987 --> 00:54:42,324 From then on I started learning, like, everything I could. 1405 00:54:42,324 --> 00:54:43,408 Let me hear some of this. 1406 00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:45,244 I got, like, my single that you can hear. 1407 00:54:45,244 --> 00:54:46,828 ♪ Dat boi Cassius ♪ 1408 00:54:46,828 --> 00:54:48,997 ♪ Boot Up by Cassius Jay playing ♪ 1409 00:54:48,997 --> 00:54:50,374 ♪ upbeat trumpet note plays ♪ 1410 00:54:50,374 --> 00:54:51,208 This the melody. 1411 00:54:51,208 --> 00:54:54,002 ♪ 1412 00:54:54,002 --> 00:54:55,087 Still got the trap beat. 1413 00:54:55,087 --> 00:54:55,921 ♪ 1414 00:54:55,921 --> 00:54:58,549 Now this is not really jazzy, but it's just a hint of it. 1415 00:54:58,549 --> 00:55:01,426 What about after that, that keyboard, supposed to be a jazz mix? 1416 00:55:01,426 --> 00:55:04,054 That's my jazz mix, but it symphs so we gonna keep it light. 1417 00:55:04,054 --> 00:55:04,888 MR. COLN: Okay. 1418 00:55:04,888 --> 00:55:06,849 And then we're gonna really go into the jazzin'. 1419 00:55:06,849 --> 00:55:10,686 Having the chance to show him what I came up with, 1420 00:55:10,686 --> 00:55:13,730 and, like, you know, that was kinda scary. 1421 00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:16,775 ♪ piano notes and soft jazz tones playing ♪ 1422 00:55:16,775 --> 00:55:18,277 Look at his face. 1423 00:55:18,277 --> 00:55:19,570 - [laughter] - Wait a minute, now hold it. 1424 00:55:19,570 --> 00:55:21,113 - CHRIS: This me. - This you? 1425 00:55:21,113 --> 00:55:23,198 ♪ piano and percussion notes crescendo ♪ 1426 00:55:23,198 --> 00:55:26,159 ♪ tempo increases, recedes ♪ 1427 00:55:26,785 --> 00:55:28,287 Man, blues changes, man. CHRIS: Watch this. 1428 00:55:28,287 --> 00:55:31,123 ♪ peppy dance jazz music playing ♪ 1429 00:55:31,123 --> 00:55:31,999 We're not there yet. 1430 00:55:31,999 --> 00:55:32,833 ♪ 1431 00:55:32,833 --> 00:55:34,960 ♪ Chris humming trombone notes ♪ 1432 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,003 ♪ fast-paced trombone and light percussion music playing ♪ 1433 00:55:36,003 --> 00:55:37,796 Those are all jazz mix playing. 1434 00:55:37,796 --> 00:55:39,339 [laughter] 1435 00:55:39,339 --> 00:55:40,174 Whoa! 1436 00:55:40,174 --> 00:55:41,508 Well done. 1437 00:55:41,508 --> 00:55:42,551 ♪ 1438 00:55:42,551 --> 00:55:44,970 Those are all jazz licks that stay true to jazz. 1439 00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:45,804 ♪ upbeat trumpet note plays ♪ 1440 00:55:45,804 --> 00:55:47,347 Now we go back to the, 1441 00:55:47,347 --> 00:55:50,809 two, three, four, one, two, three, four. [laughs] 1442 00:55:50,809 --> 00:55:53,478 - One, two, three, four. One, hey. - No, wait a minute. 1443 00:55:53,478 --> 00:55:56,857 And he was happy to know that not only was I doing jazz, 1444 00:55:56,857 --> 00:55:59,735 but I'm doing something that works in this era. 1445 00:55:59,735 --> 00:56:01,361 Anybody can listen to this, man. 1446 00:56:01,361 --> 00:56:02,404 - CHRIS: Anybody. - It can go anywhere. 1447 00:56:02,404 --> 00:56:04,323 CHRIS: That's-that's the biggest thing about it, man. 1448 00:56:04,323 --> 00:56:07,201 Be classy and still a little bit raunchy 1449 00:56:07,201 --> 00:56:08,744 - and hood a little bit, you know? [laughs] - Yeah. 1450 00:56:09,536 --> 00:56:11,038 That will sell. CHRIS: Yeah. 1451 00:56:11,038 --> 00:56:15,334 I really wanted to make sure that the old heads would, like, approve. 1452 00:56:15,334 --> 00:56:17,419 It feels good for them to say, 1453 00:56:18,086 --> 00:56:19,254 "This is gonna work." 1454 00:56:19,254 --> 00:56:22,674 ♪ Boot Up by Cassius Jay playing ♪ 1455 00:56:22,674 --> 00:56:27,763 ♪ 1456 00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:31,892 I like the idea of almost a little commercial things in there. 1457 00:56:31,892 --> 00:56:32,726 Yes. Yes. 1458 00:56:32,726 --> 00:56:35,687 - That'll keep you on your toes, you know. - Yes, yeah. 1459 00:56:35,687 --> 00:56:38,315 JOHNNY KNAPP: And then also you gotta get something 1460 00:56:38,315 --> 00:56:42,277 that can get into a groove so that women dance. 1461 00:56:42,277 --> 00:56:43,111 Yes. 1462 00:56:43,111 --> 00:56:46,114 If women get involved, guys get involved. 1463 00:56:46,114 --> 00:56:46,949 STIXX: Yes, sir. 1464 00:56:46,949 --> 00:56:49,743 If there's a girl around, there's a guy around. 1465 00:56:49,743 --> 00:56:53,539 - STIXX: Yes. - And if the girl likes to dance to it, 1466 00:56:53,539 --> 00:56:54,540 then you're on your way. 1467 00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:55,999 [patrons cheering] 1468 00:56:55,999 --> 00:56:58,126 ♪ Boot Up intro by Cassius Jay playing ♪ 1469 00:56:58,126 --> 00:57:01,046 ♪ 1470 00:57:01,046 --> 00:57:04,508 ♪ soft whistling ♪ 1471 00:57:04,508 --> 00:57:06,426 ♪ 1472 00:57:06,426 --> 00:57:07,719 ♪ It's strip club music ♪ 1473 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:08,679 ♪ Gotta play Cassius ♪ 1474 00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:13,350 ♪ 1475 00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:15,143 [cheering] 1476 00:57:15,143 --> 00:57:17,771 ♪ 1477 00:57:17,771 --> 00:57:20,357 CASSIUS: Strippers play a real big role in trap music 1478 00:57:20,357 --> 00:57:22,234 because without the strippers, 1479 00:57:22,234 --> 00:57:24,194 the DJs wouldn't even know about certain songs. 1480 00:57:24,695 --> 00:57:26,280 So, when I used to make trap music, 1481 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,906 first thing I used to do is get my song, 1482 00:57:27,906 --> 00:57:30,242 I mixed it, took it to the strip club 1483 00:57:30,242 --> 00:57:31,910 and all the strippers started dancing to it. 1484 00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:39,418 ♪ 1485 00:57:39,418 --> 00:57:43,172 If you could get a girl to shake that ass to your music, 1486 00:57:43,172 --> 00:57:44,506 you got a hit. 1487 00:57:44,506 --> 00:57:45,674 ♪ 1488 00:57:45,674 --> 00:57:48,510 That was weird to see them dancing off Boot Up at a strip club. 1489 00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:49,928 But it was that trap shit. 1490 00:57:50,345 --> 00:57:52,514 So it's like, "Whoa, we got a hit then, goddamn, 1491 00:57:52,514 --> 00:57:53,599 we can run with this one." 1492 00:57:53,599 --> 00:58:05,986 ♪ 1493 00:58:05,986 --> 00:58:06,945 GUITARIST: That has it. 1494 00:58:06,945 --> 00:58:07,988 ♪ drumbeats ♪ 1495 00:58:07,988 --> 00:58:09,531 This is the first, this is the first time 1496 00:58:09,531 --> 00:58:10,699 everybody's about to play together. 1497 00:58:10,699 --> 00:58:13,827 ♪ 1498 00:58:13,827 --> 00:58:16,413 CHRIS: I'm definitely not prepared for Tuesday. 1499 00:58:16,413 --> 00:58:17,664 We're prepared musically. 1500 00:58:17,664 --> 00:58:19,333 We know what we wanna do. 1501 00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:22,294 But the-the biggest preparation of all is 1502 00:58:22,294 --> 00:58:23,921 in the rehearsal. 1503 00:58:23,921 --> 00:58:25,005 Don't fuck around, man. 1504 00:58:25,005 --> 00:58:26,798 I'm not, I don't-- I don't bullshit. 1505 00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:28,717 I don't bullshit like that. 1506 00:58:29,301 --> 00:58:30,385 I don't bullshit like that. 1507 00:58:30,385 --> 00:58:34,264 So... so I'll do the first one, you do the second one, 1508 00:58:34,264 --> 00:58:36,016 you can do the third one. Hey. 1509 00:58:36,016 --> 00:58:38,393 ♪ playing fast-paced notes ♪ 1510 00:58:38,393 --> 00:58:40,187 Right there. Right there. 1511 00:58:40,187 --> 00:58:41,230 Let's pace that right there. 1512 00:58:41,230 --> 00:58:45,317 ♪ piano notes crescendo ♪ 1513 00:58:45,317 --> 00:58:46,276 Ah, hey! 1514 00:58:46,276 --> 00:58:50,155 ♪ notes grow louder ♪ 1515 00:58:50,155 --> 00:58:50,989 Hey. 1516 00:58:50,989 --> 00:58:52,991 I feel a little bit detached, like, 1517 00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:58,288 you know, it's so hard to get these guys in one room, 1518 00:58:58,288 --> 00:59:00,749 one rehearsal, one stage. 1519 00:59:00,749 --> 00:59:02,543 STIXX: Getting all the songs together, 1520 00:59:02,543 --> 00:59:04,628 arranging these songs, getting all the material together, 1521 00:59:04,628 --> 00:59:05,879 getting the band together, 1522 00:59:05,879 --> 00:59:09,132 still trying to do whatever we have to do individually 1523 00:59:09,132 --> 00:59:11,218 in between rehearsals and make rehearsals work. 1524 00:59:11,218 --> 00:59:13,554 You know, setting up studio sessions, 1525 00:59:13,554 --> 00:59:15,305 trying to get ahold of Cassius, you know. 1526 00:59:15,973 --> 00:59:18,058 Getting his busy schedule, getting my schedule, 1527 00:59:18,058 --> 00:59:19,601 getting Chris' schedule together, you know. 1528 00:59:19,601 --> 00:59:23,063 Chris flying in and out of the state doing tour shows 1529 00:59:23,063 --> 00:59:25,482 and preparing for this as well. 1530 00:59:25,482 --> 00:59:26,483 It's a lot of stress 1531 00:59:26,483 --> 00:59:28,735 and, you know, and a lot that comes with it. 1532 00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:30,362 Five, six, seven, unh! 1533 00:59:30,362 --> 00:59:34,908 ♪ 1534 00:59:34,908 --> 00:59:36,618 CHRIS: The magic is when we come together 1535 00:59:36,618 --> 00:59:39,329 and find the vibe and the correct chemistry 1536 00:59:39,329 --> 00:59:40,747 to give 'em a great show. 1537 00:59:40,747 --> 00:59:44,084 ♪ high-pitched percussion music joins guitar solo ♪ 1538 00:59:44,084 --> 00:59:46,211 ♪ 1539 00:59:46,211 --> 00:59:47,713 ♪ music ends ♪ 1540 00:59:48,881 --> 00:59:50,424 ♪ 1541 00:59:50,424 --> 00:59:53,552 [indistinct conversations] [laughter] 1542 00:59:53,552 --> 00:59:58,515 ♪ 1543 00:59:58,515 --> 01:00:00,601 FAN 1: Man, I'm always down to hear good live music. 1544 01:00:00,601 --> 01:00:02,394 So just to hear some people's shit, 1545 01:00:02,394 --> 01:00:04,813 it's always really inspiring to me. 1546 01:00:04,813 --> 01:00:06,023 FAN 2: I'm here to see the band, 1547 01:00:06,023 --> 01:00:07,774 I'm here to see Devon, really. 1548 01:00:07,774 --> 01:00:09,193 I wanna see them get down a little bit. 1549 01:00:09,985 --> 01:00:12,696 FAN 3: Trap and jazz? Okay, let's see what this is about. 1550 01:00:12,696 --> 01:00:13,739 I mean, I really don't know. 1551 01:00:13,739 --> 01:00:15,741 These boys are some of the most talented boys in the city. 1552 01:00:15,741 --> 01:00:19,328 ♪ 1553 01:00:19,328 --> 01:00:20,412 [people cheering] 1554 01:00:20,412 --> 01:00:22,497 ♪ 1555 01:00:22,497 --> 01:00:24,249 [indistinct chatter] 1556 01:00:24,249 --> 01:00:29,588 ♪ 1557 01:00:29,588 --> 01:00:30,714 [inaudible dialogue] 1558 01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:32,382 How y'all feeling tonight, man? 1559 01:00:32,382 --> 01:00:33,217 [crowd cheers] 1560 01:00:33,217 --> 01:00:34,885 Yeah. 1561 01:00:37,304 --> 01:00:39,056 ♪ uplifting trombone music playing ♪ 1562 01:00:39,056 --> 01:00:55,489 ♪ 1563 01:00:55,489 --> 01:00:57,991 ♪ music intensifies ♪ 1564 01:00:57,991 --> 01:01:02,663 ♪ 1565 01:01:02,663 --> 01:01:03,789 ♪ rapid drumbeats ♪ 1566 01:01:03,789 --> 01:01:05,666 ♪ maracas join music ♪ 1567 01:01:05,666 --> 01:01:10,170 ♪ 1568 01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:11,839 ♪ fast-paced piano notes join music ♪ 1569 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:14,550 ♪ powerful drumbeating ♪ 1570 01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:27,980 ♪ 1571 01:01:27,980 --> 01:01:29,314 ♪ jazzy trombone notes join music ♪ 1572 01:01:29,314 --> 01:01:30,899 [loud boom, electricity surges] ♪ music stops ♪ 1573 01:01:30,899 --> 01:01:32,192 [indistinct yelling] 1574 01:01:32,192 --> 01:01:33,986 CHRIS [on microphone]: Yeah, and we already knew it, 1575 01:01:33,986 --> 01:01:35,487 and we already knew it, 1576 01:01:35,904 --> 01:01:37,573 and we already knew it, 1577 01:01:38,323 --> 01:01:39,867 and we already knew it. 1578 01:01:39,867 --> 01:01:40,951 ♪ upbeat drum music plays ♪ 1579 01:01:40,951 --> 01:01:42,327 ♪ music fades ♪ 1580 01:01:42,327 --> 01:01:44,997 [indistinct chatter] 1581 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,041 STIXX: Stuff wasn't right. 1582 01:01:48,041 --> 01:01:50,169 We still didn't have, like, a lot of the songs together. 1583 01:01:50,169 --> 01:01:52,629 Like, we still having patch issues 1584 01:01:52,629 --> 01:01:54,882 and power issues and shit like that. 1585 01:01:54,882 --> 01:01:57,384 ♪ loud uplifting trombone music playing ♪ 1586 01:01:57,384 --> 01:01:59,887 That sounds like the loudest it's been. 1587 01:01:59,887 --> 01:02:02,139 ♪ percussion trilling ♪ 1588 01:02:02,139 --> 01:02:03,307 CASSIUS: Chris got his own mind. 1589 01:02:03,891 --> 01:02:05,559 That night I kept saying, 1590 01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:08,187 "Chris, like you see this shit fucking up, 1591 01:02:08,187 --> 01:02:09,521 let's go to the next song." 1592 01:02:10,272 --> 01:02:11,565 So I get irritated. 1593 01:02:11,565 --> 01:02:12,774 He know I get irritated. 1594 01:02:12,774 --> 01:02:13,650 I'll be ready to fight. 1595 01:02:13,650 --> 01:02:15,027 Like, man, I'm finna pop you in your mouth, bro, 1596 01:02:15,027 --> 01:02:16,069 if you don't listen to me. 1597 01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:18,488 Which I won't do it because he's my brother and I love him, 1598 01:02:18,488 --> 01:02:20,657 but he irritates the fuck outta me. 1599 01:02:21,825 --> 01:02:25,996 CHRIS: I don't remember much about the beginning of that actually. 1600 01:02:25,996 --> 01:02:28,790 I don't. I was, like, having fun, I was lit, 1601 01:02:28,790 --> 01:02:31,210 so I was outta there, like-- 1602 01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:32,920 [laughing] Chris was lit. 1603 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,881 That's why we was frustrated, too. 1604 01:02:35,881 --> 01:02:38,550 'Cause that nigga was so lit, bro. 1605 01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,469 Devon says Chris looked at him, 1606 01:02:40,469 --> 01:02:44,223 and says, "Devon give me a-a-a drumbeat." 1607 01:02:44,681 --> 01:02:46,767 And says, "Chris, start rolling up a blunt." 1608 01:02:46,767 --> 01:02:48,477 [laughs] 1609 01:02:49,853 --> 01:02:52,231 Y'all make noise, real quick, make some noise. 1610 01:02:52,231 --> 01:02:54,900 ♪ upbeat music playing ♪ 1611 01:02:54,900 --> 01:03:01,114 ♪ 1612 01:03:01,114 --> 01:03:03,659 [indistinct yelling] 1613 01:03:03,659 --> 01:03:05,786 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! 1614 01:03:07,287 --> 01:03:08,664 - [audience whooping] - What's up, guys? 1615 01:03:08,664 --> 01:03:09,414 Y'all make some noise. 1616 01:03:09,414 --> 01:03:10,499 Make some noise. Make some noise. 1617 01:03:10,499 --> 01:03:12,376 [audience cheering] 1618 01:03:14,044 --> 01:03:18,507 So, let's go back to the repeat. 1619 01:03:19,591 --> 01:03:22,845 Go out-- Jordan, I need something from Jordan. 1620 01:03:22,845 --> 01:03:24,471 [sings] ♪ Bye, bye ♪ 1621 01:03:24,471 --> 01:03:26,431 You, shot. 1622 01:03:26,431 --> 01:03:27,307 Jordan. 1623 01:03:27,307 --> 01:03:30,018 STIXX: Chris treated it like a live recording. 1624 01:03:30,018 --> 01:03:31,979 You know, every time he heard something wrong he was like, 1625 01:03:31,979 --> 01:03:33,188 "Nope, come on, man. 1626 01:03:33,188 --> 01:03:34,940 You know we taping, we gotta get it right." 1627 01:03:35,732 --> 01:03:37,568 Oh, yeah, it, it was a lot of frustration. 1628 01:03:37,568 --> 01:03:40,779 The frustration came from everybody losing sight of the music. 1629 01:03:40,779 --> 01:03:43,866 ♪ intense drum music playing ♪ 1630 01:03:43,866 --> 01:03:46,410 Ready for the singing, man? Sing, sing. Go ahead. 1631 01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:49,705 ♪ intense drum music playing ♪ 1632 01:03:49,705 --> 01:04:07,181 ♪ 1633 01:04:07,181 --> 01:04:08,265 [people cheering] 1634 01:04:08,265 --> 01:04:09,641 CASSIUS: We all had a conversation afterwards 1635 01:04:10,184 --> 01:04:11,685 and we all shared our opinions, 1636 01:04:12,436 --> 01:04:14,229 and me and Devon was on the same page. 1637 01:04:15,022 --> 01:04:17,149 Chris, "You guys sound amazing." 1638 01:04:17,149 --> 01:04:18,275 That's what he said to me. 1639 01:04:18,275 --> 01:04:19,443 [laughs] 1640 01:04:19,443 --> 01:04:21,153 "You guys sound amazing." 1641 01:04:21,153 --> 01:04:22,738 That nigga Devon's like, "Nah." 1642 01:04:23,363 --> 01:04:26,158 When you see me smiling, that's me smiling, 1643 01:04:26,158 --> 01:04:29,369 some of it's frustration but some of it's just me looking at my brother like, 1644 01:04:29,369 --> 01:04:31,663 "This is a hard head joker right here." 1645 01:04:31,663 --> 01:04:33,498 But I love him, what can I do? 1646 01:04:33,498 --> 01:04:38,921 ♪ light music playing ♪ 1647 01:04:38,921 --> 01:04:40,881 ♪ 1648 01:04:40,881 --> 01:04:42,090 STIXX: Man, listen, man, 1649 01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:44,760 I've been waiting for Chris for about 30 minutes. 1650 01:04:45,260 --> 01:04:47,095 Listen, I'm about to get y'all-- 1651 01:04:47,095 --> 01:04:48,764 Look, me and Cassius, 1652 01:04:48,764 --> 01:04:51,475 we about to call Chris one more time, man. 1653 01:04:51,475 --> 01:04:53,602 He probably ain't even gonna answer. 1654 01:04:53,602 --> 01:04:54,478 [line ringing] 1655 01:04:54,478 --> 01:04:55,812 STIXX: He gonna text me back like, "I'm on--" 1656 01:04:55,812 --> 01:04:57,022 CASSIUS: You know he a pretty boy. 1657 01:04:57,022 --> 01:05:00,651 STIXX: Of course. You know he gonna take a hour to get ready. 1658 01:05:00,651 --> 01:05:01,902 [ringing continues] 1659 01:05:04,321 --> 01:05:05,697 Nothing. 1660 01:05:05,697 --> 01:05:07,574 And he came. [laughs] 1661 01:05:07,574 --> 01:05:09,034 CASSIUS: And he gonna try come in with water and shit. 1662 01:05:09,034 --> 01:05:11,036 STIXX: Look at him. Wait, with cookie? [laughs] 1663 01:05:11,036 --> 01:05:12,454 Hungry, boy. STIXX: What's up, bro? 1664 01:05:12,454 --> 01:05:13,580 - How you doing? - Straight. 1665 01:05:13,580 --> 01:05:14,957 - What up, baby? - What up, bro? You good? 1666 01:05:14,957 --> 01:05:15,916 - Yeah, bro. - Good to see you. 1667 01:05:15,916 --> 01:05:16,917 Good to see you, too, nigga. 1668 01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:19,628 All good? STIXX: Yeah. 1669 01:05:20,170 --> 01:05:21,338 So what y'all out here talking about? 1670 01:05:21,338 --> 01:05:23,507 STIXX: Damn, you, and David being late. [laughs] 1671 01:05:23,507 --> 01:05:24,383 I was asleep, man. 1672 01:05:24,383 --> 01:05:26,718 STIXX: What's up, man? What we doing, man? 1673 01:05:26,718 --> 01:05:28,011 What we gotta do to put this project out? 1674 01:05:28,011 --> 01:05:31,181 Cassius is trying to drop it on December 30th, 1675 01:05:31,181 --> 01:05:32,724 whether we like it or not. 1676 01:05:32,724 --> 01:05:34,685 That's cool, 'cause I wanna do a show in Atlanta. 1677 01:05:34,685 --> 01:05:36,395 They kept asking me why the album ain't done. I tried askin'-- 1678 01:05:36,395 --> 01:05:37,437 STIXX: They kept asking both of us, 1679 01:05:37,437 --> 01:05:39,439 "What's-what's, what's taking so long?" Like, you feel me? 1680 01:05:39,439 --> 01:05:40,941 - Oh. So-- - Like, yeah, that's what-- 1681 01:05:40,941 --> 01:05:42,609 Like, fans wanna know where the album at. 1682 01:05:42,609 --> 01:05:44,695 I'm pretty sure that the guys in the band 1683 01:05:44,695 --> 01:05:46,071 believe in Trap-- Trap Jazz, 1684 01:05:46,071 --> 01:05:48,240 but I'm pretty sure outside of me, us three, 1685 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,826 it's not one of them that got their heart and soul... 1686 01:05:50,826 --> 01:05:52,411 - STIXX: It's not priority. - ...attached to it. Yeah. 1687 01:05:52,411 --> 01:05:53,662 CHRIS: I cannot ask them 1688 01:05:53,662 --> 01:05:55,998 to always come to the studio for free. 1689 01:05:55,998 --> 01:05:57,207 - STIXX: No. - You know, I'll wait for them. 1690 01:05:57,207 --> 01:05:58,709 Devon and I can. 1691 01:05:58,709 --> 01:05:59,543 I know he-- 1692 01:05:59,543 --> 01:06:02,796 It's a different, it's a different motivation in him 1693 01:06:02,796 --> 01:06:04,339 to-to make Trap Jazz happen. 1694 01:06:04,339 --> 01:06:07,342 And so Trap Jazz ain't paying no $500 a day 1695 01:06:07,342 --> 01:06:10,429 to pay they thousand dollar rent and $200 cell phone 1696 01:06:10,429 --> 01:06:12,264 and keep them fly every day, 1697 01:06:12,264 --> 01:06:15,100 then, you know, we gotta do what we gotta do till we get there, you know. 1698 01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,728 Okay, well, Cassius is saying you just play everything yourself. 1699 01:06:17,728 --> 01:06:19,229 Play guitar and play horns yourself. 1700 01:06:19,229 --> 01:06:20,814 Nah, we can get guitar, but horns and shit. 1701 01:06:20,814 --> 01:06:21,648 We gotta get out of guitar. 1702 01:06:21,648 --> 01:06:22,733 - Alright, we'll just get horn. - Yeah, we can do that, too. 1703 01:06:22,733 --> 01:06:23,984 - You just play the horns yourself. - Or maybe, maybe sax. 1704 01:06:23,984 --> 01:06:24,860 I know you can do horns. 1705 01:06:24,860 --> 01:06:28,071 I need three days at the studio, time paid for, that's it. 1706 01:06:28,071 --> 01:06:29,198 And you gonna be there or nah? 1707 01:06:29,198 --> 01:06:31,450 Hell, yeah, you talking about eight hours. 1708 01:06:32,618 --> 01:06:33,744 I'd know if I call Chris like, 1709 01:06:33,744 --> 01:06:35,871 "Chris, let's go make some beats." 1710 01:06:35,871 --> 01:06:37,372 Chris not gonna show up. 1711 01:06:37,372 --> 01:06:39,166 He's gonna have an excuse or something. 1712 01:06:39,166 --> 01:06:41,585 I know my brother so I let him be him. 1713 01:06:41,585 --> 01:06:43,545 I respect him, you notice I don't bother Chris. 1714 01:06:43,545 --> 01:06:46,840 I let, I let Chris be Chris and I just do as much as I can for him. 1715 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,674 I support him. 1716 01:06:47,674 --> 01:06:51,094 I think I take it more seriously than I should sometimes. 1717 01:06:51,094 --> 01:06:53,555 You know, like getting mad that certain things is not happening 1718 01:06:53,555 --> 01:06:57,726 and, like, sometimes I sit back and be crying, you know. 1719 01:06:57,726 --> 01:06:59,520 Because I'm thinking like, nigga, I'm 30-- 1720 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,271 How come you don't never share this frustration with me though? 1721 01:07:01,271 --> 01:07:02,523 I'm 32. 1722 01:07:02,523 --> 01:07:03,982 'Cause like it's-it's a matter of like-- 1723 01:07:03,982 --> 01:07:05,901 You know, how we-- You know, where we came from. 1724 01:07:05,901 --> 01:07:06,777 You know. 1725 01:07:06,777 --> 01:07:08,654 My dad, your dad, you know what they taught us. 1726 01:07:08,654 --> 01:07:09,530 - Right. - You know what I'm saying? 1727 01:07:09,530 --> 01:07:10,614 We ain't no pussies, 1728 01:07:10,614 --> 01:07:11,782 we ain't no cry babies. 1729 01:07:11,782 --> 01:07:14,701 ♪ light music playing ♪ 1730 01:07:14,701 --> 01:07:16,954 ♪ 1731 01:07:18,205 --> 01:07:20,541 I'm capable of letting people down, 1732 01:07:20,541 --> 01:07:22,584 and I didn't like the way that it felt at all, 1733 01:07:24,169 --> 01:07:26,088 because I remember what it felt like, too. 1734 01:07:26,088 --> 01:07:28,632 ♪ 1735 01:07:28,632 --> 01:07:31,552 With me and-and my father it was love. 1736 01:07:31,552 --> 01:07:34,596 I trusted him that his love was gonna, gonna be there. 1737 01:07:34,596 --> 01:07:37,599 ♪ 1738 01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:41,228 I always sat with him at church on the organ. 1739 01:07:41,228 --> 01:07:42,729 I sat right next to him. 1740 01:07:43,647 --> 01:07:44,481 I wanted to be like him. 1741 01:07:44,481 --> 01:07:47,442 And the fact that I was playing like him and sounded like him, 1742 01:07:47,442 --> 01:07:49,611 it really made me feel like that was more of why, 1743 01:07:49,611 --> 01:07:52,906 you know, God chose him to be my father and me to be his son 1744 01:07:52,906 --> 01:07:55,576 is that we have the same type of calling. 1745 01:07:55,576 --> 01:07:58,704 ♪ 1746 01:07:58,704 --> 01:08:00,414 I do remember being confused 1747 01:08:00,414 --> 01:08:03,458 and... and lashing out and sometimes, 1748 01:08:03,458 --> 01:08:06,587 and being, you know, outta control, 1749 01:08:06,587 --> 01:08:10,174 and... um, 1750 01:08:10,174 --> 01:08:12,593 you know, disrespecting my mother and-- 1751 01:08:13,177 --> 01:08:15,846 Uh, but I was definitely angry that, 1752 01:08:17,181 --> 01:08:19,016 you know, my father wasn't there. 1753 01:08:19,975 --> 01:08:20,976 [clears throat] 1754 01:08:22,561 --> 01:08:24,521 Uh, 'cause you, yeah, you want your father there, you know. 1755 01:08:24,521 --> 01:08:25,606 You want him to be there. 1756 01:08:26,398 --> 01:08:28,734 Um, so why he would lie and say 1757 01:08:29,401 --> 01:08:30,736 he's gonna be there if he's not? 1758 01:08:33,071 --> 01:08:35,324 Uh, that's pretty fucked up way to feel, 1759 01:08:36,116 --> 01:08:38,660 especially for your hero. 1760 01:08:39,369 --> 01:08:40,454 So who's next, you know? 1761 01:08:40,454 --> 01:08:41,830 Who else will I lose like that? 1762 01:08:41,830 --> 01:08:43,832 ♪ 1763 01:08:43,832 --> 01:08:47,878 That'll send you down a, a dark road 1764 01:08:47,878 --> 01:08:49,922 of beating yourself up 1765 01:08:51,089 --> 01:08:55,052 and, um, really refusing to try something else 1766 01:08:55,052 --> 01:08:56,386 and try to go back at it. 1767 01:08:56,386 --> 01:09:00,265 ♪ 1768 01:09:00,265 --> 01:09:02,726 ♪ gentle piano music playing ♪ 1769 01:09:02,726 --> 01:09:04,728 NEWSCASTER: His father was not around 1770 01:09:04,728 --> 01:09:06,605 when Christopher was a child... 1771 01:09:06,605 --> 01:09:07,856 ♪ 1772 01:09:07,856 --> 01:09:10,567 ...and the family went through years of intense hardship. 1773 01:09:10,567 --> 01:09:18,283 ♪ 1774 01:09:18,283 --> 01:09:19,660 CHRIS' MOM: To watch Chris 1775 01:09:20,369 --> 01:09:22,788 go through the things that he went through 1776 01:09:23,956 --> 01:09:26,333 as his mom I didn't wanna see that. 1777 01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:27,584 I didn't know what to give him. 1778 01:09:27,584 --> 01:09:28,544 You know? 1779 01:09:28,544 --> 01:09:31,713 And sometimes he would just say, "Just say a prayer." 1780 01:09:32,756 --> 01:09:38,136 ♪ 1781 01:09:38,136 --> 01:09:39,555 [thunder cracks] 1782 01:09:39,555 --> 01:09:41,598 CHRIS: You know, some of that love that I'm supposed to be experiencing 1783 01:09:41,598 --> 01:09:42,975 with my father is not happening. 1784 01:09:42,975 --> 01:09:47,312 ♪ 1785 01:09:47,312 --> 01:09:49,982 I just held it in a lot, you know? 1786 01:09:49,982 --> 01:09:52,442 'Cause there was no way to deal with it. 1787 01:09:52,442 --> 01:09:53,944 [sound of a record scratching] 1788 01:09:53,944 --> 01:09:57,489 CHRIS: Can't fix it, can't change it, so just let it be. 1789 01:09:57,489 --> 01:10:00,701 ♪ piano music playing ♪ 1790 01:10:00,701 --> 01:10:01,994 I'm not gonna let nobody see that. 1791 01:10:01,994 --> 01:10:04,204 I'm not gonna let anybody experience that part of me. 1792 01:10:04,204 --> 01:10:06,623 Uh, you're not gonna be able to manipulate that. 1793 01:10:06,623 --> 01:10:09,001 ♪ 1794 01:10:09,001 --> 01:10:11,044 You're not gonna be able to know my downfalls 1795 01:10:11,044 --> 01:10:12,629 and know my anger and my issues 1796 01:10:12,629 --> 01:10:14,756 and then use it against me. 1797 01:10:15,215 --> 01:10:16,258 ♪ 1798 01:10:16,258 --> 01:10:17,885 CHRIS' MOM [voice breaking]: I know that sometimes, 1799 01:10:18,969 --> 01:10:20,220 as human beings, 1800 01:10:20,220 --> 01:10:21,847 we have to go through some things 1801 01:10:22,973 --> 01:10:24,558 to cause us to be stronger, 1802 01:10:25,392 --> 01:10:27,811 to cause us to think differently. 1803 01:10:28,896 --> 01:10:32,441 It's hard to see when it's your child going through, 1804 01:10:32,441 --> 01:10:34,776 but I know that it's all in his making. 1805 01:10:34,776 --> 01:10:36,653 ♪ 1806 01:10:36,653 --> 01:10:38,864 CASSIUS: I told Chris, "Chris, you need to learn how to follow." 1807 01:10:38,864 --> 01:10:40,699 I said, "You don't listen." 1808 01:10:40,699 --> 01:10:44,286 They always say that to be a great leader, 1809 01:10:44,286 --> 01:10:46,079 you gotta be a great follower. 1810 01:10:46,496 --> 01:10:51,502 I don't know nobody Chris has followed. 1811 01:10:51,502 --> 01:10:54,129 ♪ 1812 01:10:54,129 --> 01:10:55,923 Chris is in his own world. 1813 01:10:55,923 --> 01:10:57,299 He is a hell of a musician, 1814 01:10:57,299 --> 01:10:59,301 but he-he gotta learn how to follow first. 1815 01:10:59,301 --> 01:11:15,442 ♪ 1816 01:11:16,944 --> 01:11:18,028 ♪ dramatic finish ♪ 1817 01:11:20,614 --> 01:11:26,411 ♪ jazzy trumpet music playing ♪ 1818 01:11:26,411 --> 01:11:29,790 ♪ 1819 01:11:29,790 --> 01:11:30,749 CHIEF XIAN: Mm. 1820 01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:33,710 CHRIS: Yah! What's up, man? 1821 01:11:33,710 --> 01:11:34,795 What's up? How are you, man? 1822 01:11:34,795 --> 01:11:36,839 Christian Scott, I've been following him 1823 01:11:36,839 --> 01:11:39,508 for probably like two years, um, had never met him. 1824 01:11:39,508 --> 01:11:42,719 He's very sensitive to what he's playing, 1825 01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:44,805 and he doesn't just spit out a note 1826 01:11:44,805 --> 01:11:47,641 just, just to have sound or just to play, 1827 01:11:47,641 --> 01:11:48,976 which I do a lot. 1828 01:11:48,976 --> 01:11:51,228 And some other people, we, we are still learning to do that. 1829 01:11:51,228 --> 01:11:53,522 I would definitely take something like that from him 1830 01:11:53,522 --> 01:11:58,610 and, uh, that makes him to me a really, really great, um, musician, 1831 01:11:58,610 --> 01:12:00,779 a strong force in the industry. 1832 01:12:00,779 --> 01:12:01,822 Yeah, what did you hear? 1833 01:12:02,364 --> 01:12:04,324 Well, so I was on YouTube and saw some clips there. 1834 01:12:04,324 --> 01:12:06,243 - Okay, so probably like Boot Up. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1835 01:12:06,243 --> 01:12:09,162 - Mm-hmm. - Maybe Red, that's all stuff-- 1836 01:12:09,162 --> 01:12:10,163 No, Boot Up, definitely. 1837 01:12:10,163 --> 01:12:11,415 - Boot Up, definitely? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. 1838 01:12:11,415 --> 01:12:12,249 What you think about it? 1839 01:12:12,249 --> 01:12:14,251 Man, it's dope, but what you doing is like, 1840 01:12:14,251 --> 01:12:16,003 for me it's really important in this moment. 1841 01:12:16,003 --> 01:12:17,588 - Yeah. - To-to show the synergy 1842 01:12:17,588 --> 01:12:20,090 between those cultural spaces within a cultural space. 1843 01:12:20,090 --> 01:12:21,675 - Yes. Yes, absolutely. - You get what I'm saying? 1844 01:12:21,675 --> 01:12:24,636 I think a lot of times people when they-they think of, um, 1845 01:12:24,636 --> 01:12:28,015 you know, what's going on right now in the, the newer movement, 1846 01:12:28,015 --> 01:12:30,392 they like to separate those cultures as if 1847 01:12:30,392 --> 01:12:32,519 - they're like mutually exclusive things. - Yes. 1848 01:12:32,519 --> 01:12:34,855 - Right. - And, um, and it's the same people. 1849 01:12:34,855 --> 01:12:38,400 So, so finding a way to sort of to speak through generations 1850 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,736 and context within a culture is really important. 1851 01:12:40,736 --> 01:12:42,154 So I'm glad about what you're doing. 1852 01:12:42,154 --> 01:12:46,700 When I listen to trap music, and I listen to Elvin Jones, 1853 01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:48,452 I can hear that those rhythms, 1854 01:12:48,452 --> 01:12:50,913 all of those things are West African rhythms. 1855 01:12:50,913 --> 01:12:55,042 To me I know that ancestral recall exists, right? 1856 01:12:55,042 --> 01:12:55,876 That's a real thing. 1857 01:12:55,876 --> 01:12:57,544 It's more than the color of your eyes 1858 01:12:57,544 --> 01:12:59,546 that's being rewritten when you're brought here. 1859 01:12:59,546 --> 01:13:01,798 This is why people that were denied 1860 01:13:01,798 --> 01:13:03,634 the ability to play drums 1861 01:13:03,634 --> 01:13:06,887 still ended up being so rhythmic 300, 400 years later. 1862 01:13:07,429 --> 01:13:10,516 ♪ playing Boot Up on piano ♪ 1863 01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:12,142 ♪ 1864 01:13:12,142 --> 01:13:13,769 CHIEF XIAN: And then Summertime was like-- 1865 01:13:13,769 --> 01:13:15,187 ♪ 1866 01:13:15,187 --> 01:13:18,273 ♪ trumpet playing Summertime joins piano ♪ 1867 01:13:18,273 --> 01:13:44,508 ♪ 1868 01:13:44,508 --> 01:13:46,093 So it's all about these, these two chords. 1869 01:13:46,093 --> 01:13:47,261 CHIEF XIAN: Mm-hmm. 1870 01:13:47,261 --> 01:13:53,225 ♪ 1871 01:13:53,225 --> 01:13:55,352 Right. Exactly, right here. [laughs] CHRIS: Yeah. 1872 01:13:55,352 --> 01:14:13,245 ♪ 1873 01:14:13,245 --> 01:14:14,079 Yeah. 1874 01:14:14,079 --> 01:14:17,499 ♪ 1875 01:14:17,499 --> 01:14:18,876 That's crazy. PRODUCER: That's crazy. 1876 01:14:18,876 --> 01:14:19,710 That's sick. CHRIS: Fuck! 1877 01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:21,378 But I mean-- Right? 1878 01:14:21,378 --> 01:14:22,296 So, so, so-- CHRIS: Damn it! 1879 01:14:22,296 --> 01:14:24,673 CHIEF XIAN: So the thing is, I mean what we use all-- Summertime as a-- 1880 01:14:24,673 --> 01:14:26,550 - We ain't lost nothing. - As an example. 1881 01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:28,844 The synergy between those spaces, 1882 01:14:28,844 --> 01:14:31,221 you don't have to look hard to find those things 1883 01:14:31,221 --> 01:14:33,390 'cause the-the-the cultural expression is still-- 1884 01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:34,850 - Still there. - It's still the same culture. 1885 01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:38,020 ♪ trumpet music playing ♪ 1886 01:14:38,020 --> 01:14:40,397 CHRIS: I wanted everybody to be able to play this music. 1887 01:14:40,397 --> 01:14:41,773 It's more of an idea, 1888 01:14:41,773 --> 01:14:44,484 a movement for everybody to cling to 1889 01:14:44,484 --> 01:14:49,031 because we've always been a part of the blues, gospel, 1890 01:14:49,031 --> 01:14:52,492 turning into jazz and to rock and roll and to pop music, 1891 01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:54,870 rap, hip-hop, music all over the world. 1892 01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:57,581 We need to be able to connect, 1893 01:14:57,581 --> 01:15:00,417 and everybody has their own idea 1894 01:15:00,417 --> 01:15:03,337 of how they want to contribute their music to the world. 1895 01:15:03,962 --> 01:15:05,047 And this is just mine. 1896 01:15:05,047 --> 01:15:06,256 ♪ 1897 01:15:06,256 --> 01:15:07,799 ♪ high-pitched trumpet music playing ♪ 1898 01:15:07,799 --> 01:15:22,793 ♪ 1899 01:15:25,150 --> 01:15:29,071 ♪ 1900 01:15:32,741 --> 01:15:34,159 CHRIS: I just found out we going on first, 1901 01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:35,869 so we gotta light that bitch up, bro. 1902 01:15:35,869 --> 01:15:36,828 [Stixx speaking] 1903 01:15:38,163 --> 01:15:38,997 We gotta light it up. 1904 01:15:41,291 --> 01:15:43,544 CHRIS: I think it'll be an explosion if we do it first, like-- 1905 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,508 It'll be clean tight and then hit 'em. 1906 01:15:50,384 --> 01:15:55,514 We received a call to play for Quincy's tribute in LA. 1907 01:15:55,514 --> 01:15:57,724 The call was crazy because prior to that 1908 01:15:57,724 --> 01:16:01,478 I was working on two or three of Quincy Jones' songs, 1909 01:16:01,478 --> 01:16:04,898 and I was going to trap them out like I did the other ones. 1910 01:16:04,898 --> 01:16:06,775 So, uh, when he called and he said, 1911 01:16:06,775 --> 01:16:08,777 "Man, just take some of his songs. Just do what you do." 1912 01:16:08,777 --> 01:16:10,988 That was already crazy 'cause it lined up, 1913 01:16:10,988 --> 01:16:12,656 again, just like do what you love, 1914 01:16:12,656 --> 01:16:15,325 stay at it 'cause these opportunities might just catch you 1915 01:16:15,325 --> 01:16:16,159 in the right time. 1916 01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:18,495 STIXX: It's gonna be an amazing time 1917 01:16:18,495 --> 01:16:21,582 because we mixing our stuff with his music, 1918 01:16:21,582 --> 01:16:22,833 so it's gonna be cool. 1919 01:16:22,833 --> 01:16:26,503 Like, to do like, all of his hits, but put our own spin on it, 1920 01:16:26,503 --> 01:16:27,671 which is the Trap Jazz. 1921 01:16:28,672 --> 01:16:29,548 CHRIS: If you know me, 1922 01:16:29,548 --> 01:16:32,467 you know Quincy is like my favorite from the beginning. 1923 01:16:32,467 --> 01:16:35,846 Just being in high school and knowing that he was like, 1924 01:16:35,846 --> 01:16:38,015 the greatest musician in the world, really. 1925 01:16:39,558 --> 01:16:42,269 Oh, yeah, Mr. Coln used to always hype him up. 1926 01:16:42,269 --> 01:16:44,313 I mean, he talked about a lot of other musicians, 1927 01:16:44,313 --> 01:16:46,023 but it seemed like when he wanted us to, like, 1928 01:16:46,857 --> 01:16:48,984 really be inspired by somebody, 1929 01:16:50,194 --> 01:16:52,154 uh, he would always use Quincy. 1930 01:16:52,154 --> 01:16:56,742 Movies, TV, um, pop music, 1931 01:16:56,742 --> 01:16:59,369 jazz, old school, Frank Sinatra. 1932 01:16:59,369 --> 01:17:00,913 Like, damn! 1933 01:17:00,913 --> 01:17:02,664 How much was you working every day? 1934 01:17:02,664 --> 01:17:06,376 ♪ playing hip-hop music ♪ 1935 01:17:06,376 --> 01:17:07,669 CASSIUS: I'm excited about it. 1936 01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:11,089 Earlier I watched the Quincy Jones documentary, 1937 01:17:11,089 --> 01:17:13,592 and got inspired to see how much work he had done done 1938 01:17:13,592 --> 01:17:15,719 in such little time. 1939 01:17:15,719 --> 01:17:18,180 It made me wanna go back to doing the trap jazz. 1940 01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:19,640 So Trap Jazz is-- 1941 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,769 it wasn't paying me no money so it just wasn't my focus. 1942 01:17:23,769 --> 01:17:27,356 But now me seeing the bigger picture of it, it's my focus. 1943 01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:31,777 CHRIS: Quincy is also, like, the definition 1944 01:17:31,777 --> 01:17:34,905 of, like, what you can do with potential. 1945 01:17:34,905 --> 01:17:37,115 Most people, we never live up to our potential. 1946 01:17:37,115 --> 01:17:38,742 We never really reach it. 1947 01:17:39,826 --> 01:17:42,079 ♪ upbeat music playing ♪ 1948 01:17:42,079 --> 01:17:46,124 ♪ 1949 01:17:46,124 --> 01:17:47,918 He clearly would know what the fuck I'm doing. 1950 01:17:47,918 --> 01:17:49,837 One, two, three, four. 1951 01:17:49,837 --> 01:17:51,547 [overlapping chatter] 1952 01:17:51,547 --> 01:17:53,549 CHRIS: He would know where I'm comin' from and how I wanna do it, 1953 01:17:53,549 --> 01:17:54,466 and why I'm doing it. 1954 01:17:54,466 --> 01:17:56,510 He's gonna know that 'cause he comes from that. 1955 01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:58,470 [audience cheering] 1956 01:18:00,722 --> 01:18:02,349 [inaudible dialogue] 1957 01:18:03,392 --> 01:18:04,393 CHRIS: For me to meet him, 1958 01:18:05,185 --> 01:18:06,436 that's really gonna be fun, man. 1959 01:18:06,436 --> 01:18:07,729 I can't wait for it. 1960 01:18:08,522 --> 01:18:10,023 And I'll just make sure I'm not nervous though. 1961 01:18:11,108 --> 01:18:12,734 Make sure I'm relaxed enough. 1962 01:18:14,236 --> 01:18:17,114 A special inspiration for me and our team 1963 01:18:17,114 --> 01:18:18,949 and our community is here tonight. 1964 01:18:18,949 --> 01:18:22,035 Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Mr. Quincy Jones. 1965 01:18:22,035 --> 01:18:24,079 [audience cheering] 1966 01:18:26,164 --> 01:18:27,958 [inaudible dialogue] 1967 01:18:27,958 --> 01:18:30,294 Make some noise for Trap Jazz. 1968 01:18:30,294 --> 01:18:31,837 [cheering] 1969 01:18:32,462 --> 01:18:35,382 ♪ upbeat trap jazz music playing ♪ 1970 01:18:35,382 --> 01:19:02,367 ♪ 1971 01:19:02,367 --> 01:19:03,619 CHRIS: I saw this moment. 1972 01:19:04,244 --> 01:19:05,579 A lot of people was trying to talk to him 1973 01:19:05,579 --> 01:19:07,831 but he was just looking and just listening. 1974 01:19:07,831 --> 01:19:11,168 He heard that-- them drums, and he heard the brass, 1975 01:19:11,168 --> 01:19:12,586 he heard his song, but he heard it differently, 1976 01:19:13,337 --> 01:19:14,963 than probably he's ever heard it before. 1977 01:19:14,963 --> 01:19:25,224 ♪ 1978 01:19:25,224 --> 01:19:27,434 This is an original song called Boot Up. 1979 01:19:28,227 --> 01:19:30,020 Everybody say,"Boot Up!" 1980 01:19:30,020 --> 01:19:32,814 [crowd cheering] 1981 01:19:33,565 --> 01:19:36,235 ♪ Boot Up playing ♪ 1982 01:19:36,235 --> 01:20:07,850 ♪ 1983 01:20:07,850 --> 01:20:09,059 He saw the people jumping 1984 01:20:09,059 --> 01:20:11,103 and I think that made him at least pay attention 1985 01:20:11,103 --> 01:20:13,313 and say, "Oh, this is... this is different." 1986 01:20:13,814 --> 01:20:16,483 And I-- that's what I would like to believe he was thinking. 1987 01:20:16,483 --> 01:20:18,151 Uh, so it was, it was mind blowing. 1988 01:20:18,861 --> 01:20:20,362 [indistinct chatter] 1989 01:20:20,737 --> 01:20:21,905 CHRIS: Meeting him, talking to him, 1990 01:20:21,905 --> 01:20:24,157 having, like, fun conversation with him. 1991 01:20:24,157 --> 01:20:26,910 Him telling stories, like, it was crazy. 1992 01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:28,245 It was definitely mind-blowing. 1993 01:20:28,245 --> 01:20:30,247 I couldn't believe that it was happening actually. 1994 01:20:30,247 --> 01:20:31,248 [inaudible dialogue] 1995 01:20:31,248 --> 01:20:32,165 That was-- 1996 01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:36,753 That was a... a-a treasure, yeah. 1997 01:20:36,753 --> 01:20:38,172 I'll never forget that for sure. 1998 01:20:38,672 --> 01:20:40,007 First time. 1999 01:20:42,301 --> 01:20:45,637 STIXX: We're growing as a group playing-wise a lot. 2000 01:20:45,637 --> 01:20:47,681 We about to start working on some new music, too. 2001 01:20:48,473 --> 01:20:49,850 Like me, him and Cassius, 2002 01:20:49,850 --> 01:20:52,394 we actually was in the studio not too long ago. 2003 01:20:52,394 --> 01:20:54,438 - We came up with some, some new stuff. - New stuff. 2004 01:20:55,230 --> 01:20:57,733 STIXX: We still gotta get it mixed and mastered, you feel me? 2005 01:20:57,733 --> 01:20:59,568 Like, we still mixing certain stuff. 2006 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,905 CHRIS: That's really all I'm doing is editing drums right now. 2007 01:21:03,697 --> 01:21:05,407 I'm taking every little beat 2008 01:21:05,407 --> 01:21:08,285 and making sure it is where it need to be. 2009 01:21:09,077 --> 01:21:10,746 CASSIUS: We haven't finished the album. 2010 01:21:10,746 --> 01:21:11,997 We ain't even shopped the deal. 2011 01:21:11,997 --> 01:21:13,165 We ain't even tried to shop the deal. 2012 01:21:13,790 --> 01:21:16,793 That's like, that's the first step getting the deal for it. 2013 01:21:16,793 --> 01:21:18,670 So that's the beginning stage. That's the good part. 2014 01:21:18,670 --> 01:21:20,714 But now we just gotta get the album finished. 2015 01:21:20,714 --> 01:21:23,425 It's just up to Chris to do his part, period. 2016 01:21:24,593 --> 01:21:27,846 ♪ jazz music playing ♪ 2017 01:21:27,846 --> 01:21:31,058 ♪ 2018 01:21:31,058 --> 01:21:32,059 CHRIS: Hmm. 2019 01:21:32,059 --> 01:21:32,976 CHRIS' DAD: Remember that one? 2020 01:21:32,976 --> 01:21:33,936 CHRIS: Mm-hmm. 2021 01:21:33,936 --> 01:21:36,563 ♪ gentle instrumental music playing ♪ 2022 01:21:36,563 --> 01:21:42,402 ♪ 2023 01:21:42,402 --> 01:21:44,488 This is the first one? This the first album? 2024 01:21:44,488 --> 01:21:45,322 CHRIS' DAD: Mm-hmm. 2025 01:21:45,322 --> 01:21:46,448 Is the first one? Yeah. 2026 01:21:46,448 --> 01:21:49,368 You would play this one. [laughs] Yeah. 2027 01:21:49,368 --> 01:21:51,578 - You like that one? - Yeah, I remember this one. 2028 01:21:52,246 --> 01:21:53,997 CHRIS' DAD: In the prison system, 2029 01:21:53,997 --> 01:21:55,874 I was fortunate enough to have 2030 01:21:55,874 --> 01:21:57,918 a lot of equipment given to me. 2031 01:21:57,918 --> 01:22:00,754 I had people that still believed in me, 2032 01:22:02,089 --> 01:22:04,842 and all I had to do was ask for whatever I needed 2033 01:22:04,842 --> 01:22:08,053 and eventually I ended up with a studio in prison. 2034 01:22:08,512 --> 01:22:12,224 I actually recorded a gospel CD while in prison. 2035 01:22:13,183 --> 01:22:15,727 A lot of talented guys were in prison. 2036 01:22:15,727 --> 01:22:18,647 Some-- many of my friends are out now 2037 01:22:18,647 --> 01:22:19,982 and a lot of them will, 2038 01:22:19,982 --> 01:22:21,358 you know, they'll never get out, 2039 01:22:22,109 --> 01:22:25,362 or it'll be many more years before they will get out. 2040 01:22:25,362 --> 01:22:27,322 But I take great pride in, um-- 2041 01:22:27,322 --> 01:22:30,284 ♪ 2042 01:22:30,284 --> 01:22:31,368 [clears throat] 2043 01:22:32,202 --> 01:22:35,706 I take great pride in knowing that I left something there for them. 2044 01:22:36,456 --> 01:22:40,586 My physical body left them after 20 years, 2045 01:22:40,586 --> 01:22:45,007 but I left things in place where these guys can keep 2046 01:22:45,007 --> 01:22:48,510 polishing their gifts and keep working hard. 2047 01:22:48,510 --> 01:22:50,262 Of course, I know that's Amazing Grace. 2048 01:22:50,262 --> 01:22:52,055 But you didn't name anything different though, right? 2049 01:22:52,055 --> 01:22:53,932 I decided to call it Grace Amazing. 2050 01:22:53,932 --> 01:22:55,642 Grace Amazing. CHRIS' DAD: Mm-hmm. 2051 01:22:55,642 --> 01:22:56,560 Flipped it, okay. 2052 01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,897 And, you-- Yeah, you had limited equipment to work with, 2053 01:22:59,897 --> 01:23:01,440 whereas 2054 01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:04,318 in most studios today it's a, you know, big console. 2055 01:23:04,318 --> 01:23:06,737 - CHRIS' DAD: Oh, yeah, it was-- - A laptop, big computer. 2056 01:23:06,737 --> 01:23:07,571 CHRIS' DAD: The bare minimum. 2057 01:23:07,571 --> 01:23:08,822 And then you played all the instruments. 2058 01:23:08,822 --> 01:23:10,866 You went from piano to the organ. 2059 01:23:10,866 --> 01:23:12,910 - To drums. - Right. Well, I did all the music first. 2060 01:23:12,910 --> 01:23:13,744 You did the music first. 2061 01:23:13,744 --> 01:23:15,913 CHRIS' DAD: I laid down, you know, each instrument. 2062 01:23:15,913 --> 01:23:17,456 CHRIS: Mm-hmm. CHRIS' DAD: Uh-- 2063 01:23:17,456 --> 01:23:19,041 It wasn't always right the first time, 2064 01:23:19,041 --> 01:23:21,001 but then you just do it over and over till you get it right, 2065 01:23:21,001 --> 01:23:23,879 and then once I mix it down to where I was satisfied, 2066 01:23:23,879 --> 01:23:25,172 then I would work on the vocals. 2067 01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:29,259 Grace Amazing was, uh, I think one of the first songs 2068 01:23:29,259 --> 01:23:30,552 that I heard that you recorded. 2069 01:23:30,552 --> 01:23:31,386 CHRIS' DAD: Mm-hmm. 2070 01:23:31,386 --> 01:23:33,555 CHRIS: And it wasn't like this, it wasn't fully produced. 2071 01:23:33,555 --> 01:23:34,681 Oh, no. CHRIS: No instruments. 2072 01:23:34,681 --> 01:23:37,559 Um, it was just you on piano. 2073 01:23:37,559 --> 01:23:40,145 And I remember learning it back to back, 2074 01:23:40,145 --> 01:23:42,689 me and Josh just sitting back, rewinding it. 2075 01:23:42,689 --> 01:23:44,733 The little chord changes you would do. CHRIS' DAD: Oh, yeah. 2076 01:23:44,733 --> 01:23:47,236 CHRIS: That was all, like, you know, pfft, you know, 2077 01:23:47,236 --> 01:23:49,321 explosive to us, so-- 2078 01:23:49,321 --> 01:23:51,907 You would always not really teach us, 2079 01:23:51,907 --> 01:23:54,243 - like, in a sense of like a teacher... - Mm-hmm. 2080 01:23:54,243 --> 01:23:55,869 ...or a professor. 2081 01:23:55,869 --> 01:24:00,666 You was really just giving us your, your sound or your-- 2082 01:24:01,416 --> 01:24:04,336 the elements that you would use, you know, on chord changes. 2083 01:24:04,336 --> 01:24:05,963 Well, I always want you to understand 2084 01:24:05,963 --> 01:24:07,548 why I did what I did. 2085 01:24:07,548 --> 01:24:08,382 Hmm. 2086 01:24:08,382 --> 01:24:10,217 I always wanted you to have your own style. 2087 01:24:10,217 --> 01:24:12,052 And it got to the point where 2088 01:24:12,052 --> 01:24:14,596 when I, when I got most of your moves down 2089 01:24:14,596 --> 01:24:17,099 and started playing 'em the way you played 'em, 2090 01:24:17,099 --> 01:24:17,933 people would notice it. 2091 01:24:17,933 --> 01:24:19,226 - Mm-hmm. - They would notice it. 2092 01:24:19,226 --> 01:24:21,061 Some people would come like a mother in the church would come, 2093 01:24:21,061 --> 01:24:23,730 and say, "You know you sound just like your daddy?" 2094 01:24:23,730 --> 01:24:26,358 I'm like, "You ain't heard him play in 15 years, 2095 01:24:26,358 --> 01:24:27,526 how do you know that?" CHRIS' DAD: 100 years. [laughs] 2096 01:24:27,526 --> 01:24:29,152 But there is that church sound... 2097 01:24:29,152 --> 01:24:30,445 - CHRIS' DAD: Absolutely. - ...that I finally got down. 2098 01:24:30,445 --> 01:24:31,405 Yeah. [chuckles] 2099 01:24:31,405 --> 01:24:32,823 CHRIS' DAD: I love to hear him play. 2100 01:24:33,282 --> 01:24:34,575 I enjoyed watching him play 2101 01:24:34,575 --> 01:24:37,578 and I was extremely proud that this was my kid. 2102 01:24:37,578 --> 01:24:38,996 ♪ 2103 01:24:38,996 --> 01:24:40,622 I admire your durability. 2104 01:24:40,622 --> 01:24:41,456 Hmm. 2105 01:24:41,957 --> 01:24:44,960 You have endured a lot, a lot. 2106 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,963 - Uh, some your fault, some not your fault. - Absolutely. 2107 01:24:47,963 --> 01:24:50,424 A lot of things you went through I didn't want you to go through, 2108 01:24:51,550 --> 01:24:53,969 but I saw how you stuck in there. 2109 01:24:53,969 --> 01:24:56,305 I think that's gonna carry you a long way 2110 01:24:56,305 --> 01:24:57,514 because you're durable. 2111 01:24:57,514 --> 01:24:58,432 Hmm. 2112 01:24:58,432 --> 01:25:01,602 You, you know how to stick it out even when it gets rough. 2113 01:25:01,602 --> 01:25:03,061 Of course I'm always on your side 2114 01:25:03,061 --> 01:25:05,355 - even when I tell you I'm not. - Mm-hmm. 2115 01:25:05,355 --> 01:25:06,732 I'm always on your side. 2116 01:25:08,108 --> 01:25:08,984 Always. 2117 01:25:08,984 --> 01:25:10,027 That means a lot. 2118 01:25:11,028 --> 01:25:14,573 And I want better for you than I ever had for myself. 2119 01:25:15,324 --> 01:25:17,993 And to me that's the evidence of real love 2120 01:25:17,993 --> 01:25:22,748 when you can celebrate somebody else as if it were yourself. 2121 01:25:22,748 --> 01:25:26,376 - Mm. - When you desire more of a person 2122 01:25:26,376 --> 01:25:27,711 than you desire for yourself. 2123 01:25:27,711 --> 01:25:29,379 You taught me how to be strong. 2124 01:25:29,379 --> 01:25:30,422 ♪ 2125 01:25:30,422 --> 01:25:33,509 You taught me how to stay focused. 2126 01:25:33,509 --> 01:25:34,968 ♪ 2127 01:25:34,968 --> 01:25:37,846 Even, uh, in the midst of things that I'm going through today, 2128 01:25:39,139 --> 01:25:42,476 I can kinda look at you and see how you stay focused. 2129 01:25:42,476 --> 01:25:44,228 Even when things are at their worst 2130 01:25:46,605 --> 01:25:47,689 you just keep going. 2131 01:25:49,942 --> 01:25:51,401 Before it is all said and done, 2132 01:25:51,401 --> 01:25:53,445 we doin' a album together. 2133 01:25:53,445 --> 01:25:54,321 Deal? 2134 01:25:55,531 --> 01:25:56,782 - After I get The Phantom. - Deal? 2135 01:25:56,782 --> 01:25:58,909 After I get The Phantom, we'll do it. 2136 01:25:58,909 --> 01:26:00,285 [laughter] 2137 01:26:00,285 --> 01:26:01,453 We'll see about that. 2138 01:26:01,453 --> 01:26:02,287 Maybe we'll rent one, 2139 01:26:02,287 --> 01:26:04,748 I'll rent you one and we'll do the, do the album that week. 2140 01:26:04,748 --> 01:26:05,582 [laughter] 2141 01:26:05,582 --> 01:26:12,297 ♪ 2142 01:26:12,297 --> 01:26:14,675 STIXX: I watched Chris change over the past couple of years. 2143 01:26:14,675 --> 01:26:17,553 His music, his energy, his priorities, 2144 01:26:18,178 --> 01:26:20,806 he's getting older, like, we not kids no more, 2145 01:26:20,806 --> 01:26:21,640 you know what I mean? 2146 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,559 Like, we ain't out here just fuckin' around no more, 2147 01:26:23,559 --> 01:26:25,644 like, shit has to make sense. 2148 01:26:26,436 --> 01:26:30,399 CHRIS: I definitely learned to, at least as much as I can, 2149 01:26:30,399 --> 01:26:33,068 try to show up before everybody else in the band. 2150 01:26:33,068 --> 01:26:34,736 Not being there is, uh, keeping us 2151 01:26:34,736 --> 01:26:37,322 from making certain decisions that were very important, 2152 01:26:37,322 --> 01:26:40,075 that I didn't realize that they cared enough 2153 01:26:40,075 --> 01:26:41,994 for me to keep me in the loop about. 2154 01:26:43,537 --> 01:26:45,372 STIXX: We got a show tonight, baby. 2155 01:26:45,831 --> 01:26:47,082 We on the way to the stu. 2156 01:26:52,671 --> 01:26:54,131 That's when the best shit comes. 2157 01:26:56,091 --> 01:26:57,050 Every time. 2158 01:26:57,050 --> 01:26:59,636 The pandemic, it had a bad effect, 2159 01:26:59,636 --> 01:27:01,805 but then it had a, a good effect, too. 2160 01:27:02,222 --> 01:27:06,435 I was able to get, like, a lot of my own personal music done. 2161 01:27:06,435 --> 01:27:09,938 I wanna be one of those guys when song come on, you go crazy, 2162 01:27:09,938 --> 01:27:11,356 but I made the song, you know. 2163 01:27:11,356 --> 01:27:14,026 Something that's gonna be here for forever even when I'm long gone. 2164 01:27:14,568 --> 01:27:16,320 And I was able to spend time with my daughter, too. 2165 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,947 I have a, I have a daughter now, two daughters actually. 2166 01:27:18,947 --> 01:27:20,032 ♪ 2167 01:27:20,032 --> 01:27:20,991 [baby coos] 2168 01:27:20,991 --> 01:27:22,242 ♪ 2169 01:27:22,242 --> 01:27:25,495 STIXX: Our music is unique and nobody else do it or duplicate it. 2170 01:27:25,495 --> 01:27:26,496 ♪ 2171 01:27:26,496 --> 01:27:28,749 If we get signed to a major record label, cool. 2172 01:27:28,749 --> 01:27:31,418 If not, cool, we'll still be able to do it independently, too. 2173 01:27:31,418 --> 01:27:32,753 ♪ 2174 01:27:32,753 --> 01:27:37,299 PRODUCER: If you could speak to your 10-year-old self right now, 2175 01:27:37,299 --> 01:27:38,509 what would you say to him? 2176 01:27:38,509 --> 01:27:41,011 I would tell him, um, don't wait. 2177 01:27:41,970 --> 01:27:44,556 Don't wait for what everybody else thinks 2178 01:27:44,556 --> 01:27:45,933 that you should be doing. 2179 01:27:45,933 --> 01:27:47,392 Don't wait for your family. 2180 01:27:47,392 --> 01:27:51,021 Don't wait for people who you thought were your friends. 2181 01:27:51,021 --> 01:27:53,106 Do it for yourself first, 2182 01:27:54,191 --> 01:27:56,193 and then try to help everybody else. 2183 01:27:56,193 --> 01:28:00,906 Everybody who knows me knows that I don't want fame, 2184 01:28:00,906 --> 01:28:02,407 I just want it to be about music. 2185 01:28:03,033 --> 01:28:05,160 Got a new sound, you just gotta hear it. 2186 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,120 ♪ gentle piano music playing ♪ 2187 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,456 ♪ upbeat drum music joins ♪ 2188 01:28:09,456 --> 01:28:34,857 ♪ 2189 01:28:34,857 --> 01:28:37,067 I definitely want my legacy to just be around 2190 01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:38,735 for like my children. 2191 01:28:38,735 --> 01:28:41,321 I used to go to the studio and watch my dad 2192 01:28:41,321 --> 01:28:45,576 and be at shows where he used to have me like on the Grammy. 2193 01:28:45,576 --> 01:28:46,743 ♪ 2194 01:28:46,743 --> 01:28:47,953 I want them to see that 2195 01:28:49,246 --> 01:28:51,999 you could do whatever you pretty much wanna do. 2196 01:28:51,999 --> 01:28:59,381 ♪ 2197 01:28:59,381 --> 01:29:02,342 CASSIUS: Trap Jazz is, it's gonna be real, real big, real huge. 2198 01:29:02,342 --> 01:29:03,677 There's no limits to it. 2199 01:29:03,677 --> 01:29:07,431 I think it's gonna probably be one of the biggest things in the next five years. 2200 01:29:07,431 --> 01:29:10,392 It's gonna almost be like how hip-hop was in Atlanta. 2201 01:29:10,392 --> 01:29:12,769 It's gonna take off and everybody gonna start doing it their own ways. 2202 01:29:12,769 --> 01:29:14,855 ♪ 2203 01:29:14,855 --> 01:29:16,523 CHRIS: I want people to really 2204 01:29:16,523 --> 01:29:18,775 enjoy music with their heart and their soul 2205 01:29:18,775 --> 01:29:20,277 'cause music is very healing. 2206 01:29:20,903 --> 01:29:23,447 It's, uh, very spiritual, it's very powerful. 2207 01:29:23,447 --> 01:29:25,240 If they can dance from it, 2208 01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:29,119 if they can play the music after losing someone 2209 01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:30,954 or just in the moment. 2210 01:29:31,788 --> 01:29:33,790 I want to serve people musically. 2211 01:29:33,790 --> 01:29:36,168 ♪ 2212 01:29:36,168 --> 01:29:38,378 STIXX: Really good music when it enters you, 2213 01:29:38,378 --> 01:29:41,173 it's like the one thing other than God 2214 01:29:41,173 --> 01:29:43,592 that can change the way you feel without your permission. 2215 01:29:43,592 --> 01:29:46,136 ♪ 2216 01:29:46,136 --> 01:29:47,638 CHRIS' DAD: That was new to me. 2217 01:29:47,638 --> 01:29:50,891 To see your child doing what he was born to do, 2218 01:29:52,226 --> 01:29:53,560 to see him absolutely... 2219 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,354 ♪ 2220 01:29:55,354 --> 01:29:56,188 ...free. 2221 01:29:56,188 --> 01:30:01,109 ♪ 2222 01:30:09,034 --> 01:30:10,744 PRODUCER: Whoo! And cut. 2223 01:30:11,286 --> 01:30:12,371 CHRIS: That'll work. 2224 01:30:13,038 --> 01:30:15,249 MAN: Play-play-play this record as frequently as-- 2225 01:30:15,249 --> 01:30:18,418 [record fades] ♪ upbeat music playing ♪ 2226 01:30:18,418 --> 01:30:20,796 ♪ 2227 01:31:39,583 --> 01:31:42,503 ♪ 2228 01:32:35,180 --> 01:32:38,600 ♪ 2229 01:33:03,083 --> 01:33:04,168 ♪ music stops ♪ 2230 01:33:07,171 --> 01:33:10,299 ♪ smooth jazz music playing ♪ 2231 01:33:39,745 --> 01:33:41,830 ♪ music fades out ♪168913

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