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[dramatic music]
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Here we go!
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[explosion]
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[upbeat music]
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[laughs]
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-Oh, my God.
-Oh, my God!
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Whoa!
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YouTube has video.
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[man] I'm gonna spend
the next 50 hours buried alive
in this coffin.
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[boys laughing]
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[woman] So I'm really excited
to be launching
this YouTube channel.
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I run nine different
YouTube channels.
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[man] So hit that like button!
Smash that like button!
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Woo!
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[upbeat music continues]
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Yo, it's just a prank!
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[screams]
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-Whose streets?
-Our streets!
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-[repeating Donald Trump's name]
-Holy shit!
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Please don't shoot me, man.
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[crowd chanting] Stop the steal!
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[Steve Chen] It's kind
of an interesting past.
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Born in Taiwan
and traveled to the U.S.
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when I was eight years old.
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[modem dialing]
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In 1992, 1993,
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we had exposure to the Internet.
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So you had a bunch
of 14, 15 year-olds
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without parental supervision,
having access to the Internet.
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And the Internet was new.
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It was, I mean, even
more experimental
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than what you know
the Internet today.
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People were still
just trying to figure out,
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"What do you do with
these interconnected machines?"
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And so that began sort
of already my long-term career
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of going to sleep at 3 a.m.,
4 a.m. every night.
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It's just getting online,
talking with people
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and kind of just figuring
out things all together.
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[jet engine roaring]
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I left the University
of Illinois in 1999.
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Do you actually drop out
of school and do
the startup thing?
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And, you know, that means
it was a major life decision,
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but it was made
within minutes of saying,
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"Okay, forget what
I'm going to be doing.
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I can always
finish off my senior year
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if this startup doesn't work
out, but I need to buy a ticket
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to get out to Silicon Valley
as quickly as possible."
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[dial-up modem connecting]]
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[female host] By now, you've
heard the buzz.
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[male host] It spans the globe
like a superhighway.
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Telephones, TV, and
computers are merging.
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Whoa!
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[upbeat music]
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You know, people who
had access to the Internet
were able
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to communicate with each other
across borders.
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It was exciting, it was
an enabler of really kind of
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a unique type
of communication that hadn't
been able to exist
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in that way before
without travel.
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Wave your hands, Brian,
so we can get a sense
of how this works.
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Okay. Hi there.
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I was trying to describe
to one of my undergraduates
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what the world looked
like in '97, just 20 some
odd years ago.
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And I was explaining to them
that the way we took pictures,
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the dominant medium was film.
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They're like, "What's that?"
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I was like, "Oh man,
I have to define film."
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So I explained, you know,
there's this canister
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with this photosensitive
material, and you put it
in the camera,
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and you take 20 pictures,
and then you take it out,
and you take it
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down to the drugstore,
and then, you know,
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somebody developed it,
and four days later,
you get your pictures.
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I swear to God, I think
they thought I was pulling
their leg.
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Like, they couldn't fathom
what the world looks like today
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compared to that in '97.
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[Jeff Bezos] There are gonna be
lots of successful companies
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born of the Internet.
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[boys cheering]
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[keys typing]
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Well, I was getting pretty
depressed like towards the end
of last week.
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And I was like, "Dude,
we have, like maybe
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40, 50, 60 videos
on the site, but..."
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[Steve] I started in PayPal
in 1999
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and I left PayPal in 2005.
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So during the course
of that period was when I met
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the two other co-founders
of YouTube, Jawed and
Chad Hurley.
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[Steve] Of the search results,
or of the set that the image
came from?
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Yeah, where it came
from in the results, so...
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On of the guys that we met
early on was the co-founder
of another service.
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And it was called hotornot.com.
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This service can be explained
pretty easily.
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You look at a photo
and there were two options.
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You voted "Hot"
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or "Not" on the photo.
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We just thought,
"You know, what a great
opportunity it would be
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if you created a video version
of this instead of just seeing
a photo.
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[laughs]
So that's the true story behind
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the YouTube service
as we know it today.
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[whimsical music]
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We started building the service.
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And I would say that much
of the work was
on the engineering side.
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What became of YouTube
is not something
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that's fundamentally
a new and novel idea
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in that people have considered
and thought about,
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are there ways to be able
to share video online?
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Because plenty of people
at the time had videos
that they wanted to share.
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It was just sitting
on their hard drives,
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but there was no way
to be able to share them.
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[keys clicking]
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All right, so here we are
in front of the elephants.
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Cool thing about these guys
is that they have...
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[Steve] A large part of it
early on
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was actually looking
through and kind of seeing
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what kind of videos would
people want to be able
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to share that they didn't know
were shareable before.
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Look, here's finally a service
where if you wanna get
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a political message out there,
if you want to get some
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kind of message out there,
you can use this platform.
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You're not going to be able
to turn on the TV and be able
to see this.
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I remember it showing up
as like a place
with goofy videos...
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[boy laughs] Charlie.
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...that didn't strike me as
something that would
revolutionize the world...
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[crowd yelling]
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[boy laughing]
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[Talia] ...be livelihoods
for so many people...
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[yells]
100 million subscribers.
Thank you, YouTube.
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Ow!
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[Talia] ...spawn everything
from social movements...
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I can't breathe!
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[Talia]
...to really Baroque dramas.
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I don't like 'em putting
chemicals in the water
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that turned
the friggin' frogs gay.
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Charlie, that really hurt.
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[Talia]
That all came a bit later.
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[baby laughing]
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[crowd screaming]
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[Anthony Padilla]
I was like, "Video.
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Video is the next big thing
that's gonna be on the Internet.
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This is so cool.
"Like, you could record
something on
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God, you couldn't even record
on a cell phone then.
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It was like,
steal someone's webcam.
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[Power Rangers theme music]
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Well, we actually started
making videos
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before YouTube even existed.
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[lip syncing to music]
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[Anthony] We don't even have
broadband Internet yet.
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[lip syncing to music]
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Videos are not a thing
that you do on the Internet.
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[Mortal Kombat music playing]
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[lip syncing to music]
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[slapping sound effect]
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[Ian] You know, we had just
graduated from high school.
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We were 17 years old,
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all of our friends were going
off to colleges,
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and we decided to stay
in our hometown of Sacramento,
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go to community college.
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[Mortal Kombat music]
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Then somebody took one
of our videos and put it
on YouTube.
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I did a Google search,
and I found
that it was uploaded
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to this website called YouTube.
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Someone just ripped it
and posted it there.
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[Steve] What YouTube really
brought to the game was,
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I think, the ability to be able
to utilize the latest technology
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that was available, and then
building that
into a cohesive system
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that made it much easier
for the user experience.
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Millions of viewers now
from all over the world are
logging on
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to view their short films
and video projects,
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[female reporter] Their Pokémon
video, the second most watched
clip on YouTube.com,
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more than 15 million views
so far.
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[Anthony] I'm like
this introverted kid who
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is terrified of speaking
in front of a class
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of, like, 30 kids, but yet...
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I'm like, I can do
this on my own,
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in my bedroom,
upload it, people can enjoy it.
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[skates rolling]
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When YouTube first arrived,
we didn't really have
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high-speed Internet connections
the way we do now.
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I didn't have a smartphone.
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[documentary narrator]
They're off.
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[Jillian] And so back then,
it was really exciting
to be able
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to go online and watch
a video that maybe
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you never would have
been able to access before.
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[documentary narrator]
This competitor is
determined to finish.
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[Jillian]
And yet at the same time,
it was slow.
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I think the first video I ever
uploaded to YouTube
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was of my cat drinking out
of my water glass.
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And I'd taken it with maybe
my first digital camera,
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and it took hours to get
it online, and I don't even
know why I did it.
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But it was just this exciting
moment to be able
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to share something
with the world like that.
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[cat licking]
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[bell ringing]
These are from a gentleman
at another table.
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-What?
-Enjoy.
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[Steve] " Dear sirs,
we would like to buy
your video sharing site.
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Milkshakes on us!"
[bell ringing]
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Awesome. Let's do it.
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Hi, YouTube.
This is Chad and Steve.
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We're the co-founders
of the site.
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And we just want
to say thank you.
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Today, we have some exciting
news for you.
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We've been acquired by Google.
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Yeah, thanks. Thanks to
every one of you guys that,
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have been contributing
to YouTube, the community.
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We wouldn't be anywhere
close to where we are
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without the help
of this community.
Thanks a lot.
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[soft tense music]
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[Brian Williams] There has been
a big merger in
the business world,
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One that may say a lot
about our world these days.
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[male host] Web giant
Google will pay 1.6 billion
to gobble up YouTube.
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[soft tense music]
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[soft music]
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[Susan Wojcicki] The light bulb
for me when I realized
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that YouTube
was going to be really big,
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was with this
very specific video,
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which was the first hit
that I saw, actually,
on Google Video.
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[lip syncing
to Backstreet Boys music]
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Of these two young students,
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singing the Backstreet Boys
in their dorm room,
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and their roommate is doing
homework in the back.
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I still laugh
when I see it today.
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[lip syncing]
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And I realized, "Wow,
this is going to be a big thing.
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People wanna see other people
like them on YouTube.
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This is going to be important."
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[soft tense music]
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One of the things that
I did was I did this model
where I forecasted
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that it was actually gonna be
a really big business,
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and we could justify the price
that we paid for it,
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which was 1.65 billion dollars,
which was a huge price.
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I had a hundred
percent conviction.
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There was no doubt in my mind
that this was gonna be
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a huge trend of the future.
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But there were many around
me that questioned it, for sure.
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I mean, we saw it in the press,
we saw other people who were
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supposedly, like,
tech experts say,
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"This was, like,
one of the stupidest
acquisitions ever."
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Like, someone told me
how that day
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they were with a bunch
of different Nobel Prize winners
in economics,
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and they were all talking about
what a bad acquisition this was,
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and how could have Google
made such a huge mistake?
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So I think people across
the board did not, like,
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recognize that this was
gonna be a really,
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really big opportunity.
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[Chad] This is the dinner
at YouTube. This is what it's
like to work here.
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We're gonna feature this video
tomorrow so...
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[soft tense music]
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[indistinct chattering]
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-[man] Cheers.
-[All] Cheers. Woo.
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I find it fascinating
the way I think
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younger Millennials,
and certainly Gen Z use YouTube
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almost the way the rest
of us use Google search.
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You know, that's where they go
to find information.
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For those of you that
are new here, Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday, Thursday,
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I like to talk about
the news, world events,
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and then Friday, it is all
about the conversation.
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[Nitasha] I think that it can be
really wonderful, but it's just
always
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been baffling to me that
here is the most massive
video platform
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influencing billions
around the world,
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[horns honking]
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and, you know, for years,
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Google wouldn't even break out,
like, basic statistics about it
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in its quarterly earnings calls.
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You know I don't have any
specific metrics to give but...
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We definitely...
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are seeing impact and
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we think we are in early days of
the impact
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impact we can see.
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[Nitasha] And even just from
a financial standpoint,
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how did they just tuck this
under the Google umbrella
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as though this is just a,
like a side bet,
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when it is, like,
kind of the default portal
to information?
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[Steve] Yeah, the making
of YouTube...
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Here's your new keys
to your new office.
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-[Steve] All right, thanks.
-[Chad] Present you your key.
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[Steve] When Chad and I were
pointing some things,
they still gave us
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the decision-making power
to utilize the resources
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of Google after the acquisition,
but we were
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allowed to make the decisions
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of where we wanted
to take the product.
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[soft music]
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I think when it got
acquired by Google,
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the general narrowing
of the Internet, where like,
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there used to be web surfing
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where you would just, like,
bounce around
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all these different sites
from all these different
creators,
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and really be looking
at different things.
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And now we're much
more centralized on
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our social media feeds,
and there's a sense
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of much more controlled chaos.
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Like, everyone's talking
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and talking over each other
and contributing,
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but within these silos, there's
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the central platform
of the whole Internet.
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[calm music]
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[male narrator] The wheels
of the tech industry never
stop turning.
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And in 2007, we saw glimpse
after glimpse of new technology.
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[soft music]
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That was, like, the pinnacle
of the moment when everyone
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was so excited about
the potential of technology
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and social media to change
the world for the better.
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This is one device...
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[crowd cheering]
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and we are calling it iPhone.
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[Becca] There was this idea,
of, like, organizations,
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these old bureaucratic
institutions aren't going
to matter anymore
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because people can
kind of come together
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just using the Internet,
and can change the world
that way.
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[crowd chanting]
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[police screaming]
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[woman] I like to think
of this as the beginning
of the revolution.
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So this is a bunch of people
coming together to create
a new cultural impulse.
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[engine buzzing]
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[Jillian] States would control
what foreign media can do,
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and I think we really saw
this at the beginning
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of the Egyptian uprising,
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when there were only
a few networks that already had
people in the country.
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And those networks,
they didn't have the same kind
of access that people
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posting to YouTube did.
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I think because
of a lack of trust
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that the people had
in foreign media
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and reasonably so, because
foreign media had,
whether intentionally or not,
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had ignored a lot
of these issues for a long time.
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[crowd screaming]
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[interpreter] President
Mohamed Hosni Mubarak has
decided
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to wave the office
of the president
of the Republic.
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[crowd cheering]
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[male reporter] A voice which
ushered in a social revolution
in Egypt
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where the most powerful
weapon was social networking.
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[crowd cheering]
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[calm music]
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We were able to connect
with people all over the world.
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We were able to have
these conversations that would
expose things in our country,
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that helped us to understand
the connections between
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all of our countries
and the things that
we had in common.
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[calm music]
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This on?
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I'm Fred and...
Mom, I'm not using your camera!
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[Steve] I think one major change
that happened
after the acquisition,
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what eventually led
to this concept of the YouTuber.
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-Hey bitches!
-What's happening, forum?
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Hi, we're the Fine brothers.
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For those of you who don't
know me, I'm Brookers,
and I'm an Internet celebrity.
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[woman] He's an international
superstar, the most downloaded
man on the planet.
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You pretty much can stop
anyone here and ask them
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how they found out about K-pop,
they found out on YouTube.
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[K-pop music]
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[Steve] Korean K-Pop, that's
all possible because
all of a sudden
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you have content that
was being created
in one part of the world
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that just happened to have
viewers from the rest
of the world.
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[upbeat music]
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Pow!
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You became able to see
actual people
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living in other parts
of the country,
other parts of the world.
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Hi, everyone. [speaking Korean]
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...who were experiencing
the same things you were,
and maybe, you know,
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we're boldly speaking about them
in a different set of terms
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than you'd been able to access
through mainstream media.
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I'm back, Black, and ready
to lay the facts.
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[Jillian] If you're a person
of color who's not living
in a major city,
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who doesn't have connections
to other people
who look like you,
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then YouTube enables you
to see people who look like you
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who might share your perspective
or who might have a totally
different perspective.
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And so it allows you to see
a spectrum of people
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who maybe had some
of the same features as you,
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or the same proclivities as you,
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but who were engaging
in different activities
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than the people in your own
community were.
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Y'all are gonna be
my best friends.
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-Oh, my God!
-Oh, my God.
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-Oh, my God!
-Oh, my God.
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[Anthony] It was a couple
of years into us
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doing what we were doing
that we ever met anyone else
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that created content on YouTube.
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-I'm Toby.
-Hey everybody.
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It's Michael Buck
from the What the Buck Show.
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What's up? It's Brittani Taylor.
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I'm here at VidCon
with Josh Rhymer.
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[Anthony] And it was such
a surreal experience, like,
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seeing someone face to face
who also had a following,
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who understood this world.
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'Cause before that,
it was really, it was a lot
of talk about, like,
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how can you use this to get
into mainstream media?
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Like, New Media wasn't
a term, it was like,
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YouTube was just a place
for trash, is how they saw it.
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So get yourself
onto Nickelodeon or MTV.
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And like, we literally had
a meeting with MTV
and we pitched
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all these ideas and they didn't
know what to do with us.
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to my channel.
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It's your girl Jackie Aina.
If you are new here, welcome.
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[Susan] We've really had no
gatekeepers that have said,
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you know, "Send me your script
and I'll decide whether or not
we fund you."
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We just say, "Hey, post it
on YouTube."
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Tonight, my guests are
two transgender YouTubers
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from opposite ends
of the political spectrum.
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But I've brought them here
together to engage in
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a rational, free-thinking debate
about a timeless...
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[Natalie Wynn] YouTube is so
individual, right?
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Generally, video is something
that is produced with a big team
of people.
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[piano music]
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It's a very solitary project
for me.
Like, I write the script,
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I'm doing the wardrobe,
I'm doing the makeup,
I'm setting the camera up,
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I'm positioning the lights,
I designed the set.
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I turned the camera on,
I'm sitting in a room alone
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talking to the camera,
and then I edited it myself.
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I mean,
it's a very solitary project.
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[piano music]
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[piano music continues]
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I don't know, maybe this is
a little bit of vanity,
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but it's like, it feels like
a very personal like,
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more like writing
a book would feel
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than directing
a movie, you know?
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[piano music]
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I think I first uploaded
to YouTube in 2007.
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And it was a video
of me playing the piano.
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So YouTube as a website
has been in my life
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a long time,
since I was in high school.
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What do I look like to you,
some kind of philosopher?
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[harp notes]
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I majored in philosophy
and psychology,
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then I started getting
a PhD in philosophy,
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got two years into that
before realizing
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"I don't want to be an academic.
This does not suit me at all."
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Gentlemen of the Academy,
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it is my duty to submit to you
the findings of my latest
mimetic research.
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What are traps, and be they gay?
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I was using a philosophy
background and making arguments,
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but I'm also making
entertainment.
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[crowd cheering
and cameras clicking]
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[male reporter] YouTube
celebrities are laughing along
with their fans
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all the way to the bank.
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The last one of you take
your hand off this million
dollar stack of cash, keeps it.
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[female interviewer] How do you
go from working in a supermarket
five years ago
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to earning more than 12 million
pounds this year?
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Part of me is not sure.
I just do something that
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I absolutely love and put it
out there for anyone to watch.
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♪ I don't need money
I don't need cars ♪
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♪ Girl you're my heart ♪
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[Steve] You know,
some of the most recognized
musician names out there,
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they created their content
when they were 13, 14 years old,
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uploading it as sort
of an amateurish piece
of content onto YouTube.
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What's up guys, my name
is Shawn Mendes.
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[Steve] And then you fast
forward a few years,
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and they're performing
in front of hundreds
of thousands of people.
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[crowd screaming]
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[female newscaster] It's amazing
making money off of YouTube,
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and two Sacramento
20-somethings are on that list.
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[Anthony] Our channel was one
of the first ten channels
to ever be monetized.
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They said we will give you
$10,000 dollars each month
if you have
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these ads as part
of this partnership program.
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Obviously, that's
a shit ton of money for,
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God, we were 19 years old.
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[crowd screaming]
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[Natalie] In the early days,
no one was doing
this professionally,
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or very few people were.
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And if they were doing it,
it's because they were making
ad money.
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-[man] What the heck?
-I've never seen
a dead person.
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- You haven't?
-No, bro.
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[Natalie] That really affects
the kind of content that
you can make
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Because it incentivizes you
to make as much content
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that gets as many clicks
as possible by any means
necessary.
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[reporter] For more than a
month, Mona Lisa Perez said
her boyfriend
474
00:23:47,943 --> 00:23:51,050
had been begging her to launch
his YouTube channel
with a bang.
475
00:23:51,188 --> 00:23:55,157
I may fail, but if I fail,
I wanna die trying.
476
00:23:56,124 --> 00:23:58,678
[Boy] He has a microwave stuck
to his head.
477
00:23:58,816 --> 00:24:02,199
I know this sounds like
a prank call, but he was trying
to film a YouTube video.
478
00:24:02,924 --> 00:24:04,166
[Natalie] It doesn't have
to be good.
479
00:24:04,304 --> 00:24:06,134
People don't have
to wanna pay for it.
480
00:24:06,997 --> 00:24:09,102
You just have to get eyes
on the video.
481
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,623
Dear fat people. Ah! Some people
are already really mad
at this video.
482
00:24:12,761 --> 00:24:14,349
What are you going
to do, fat people?
What are you gonna do?
483
00:24:14,487 --> 00:24:15,799
What are you, gonna chase me?
484
00:24:15,937 --> 00:24:17,594
All right,
pull up with the gang.
485
00:24:17,732 --> 00:24:20,182
You know, and look at who
they offer partnerships to.
486
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,185
No channel grows to hundreds
of thousands or millions
of followers incidentally.
487
00:24:23,323 --> 00:24:24,842
Be sure to drop a like,
hit that subscribe button.
488
00:24:24,980 --> 00:24:26,948
15,000 likes on this video.
489
00:24:27,604 --> 00:24:30,607
[Talia] So much of it is about
generating clicks.
490
00:24:30,745 --> 00:24:34,334
Like, it's even rougher than
the news clickbait economy
491
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:38,028
because you sink or swim
based on your impressions.
492
00:24:38,166 --> 00:24:39,995
And for a lot of people,
it's their sole livelihood,
493
00:24:40,133 --> 00:24:42,722
And so everything is
this capital letter,
494
00:24:42,860 --> 00:24:46,346
everything's sort
of in bold, and italics,
495
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:47,865
and exclamation points.
496
00:24:48,003 --> 00:24:49,764
We've been getting 50,000 likes
497
00:24:49,902 --> 00:24:51,524
on all of my videos,
so go hit that like button.
498
00:24:51,662 --> 00:24:53,630
[soft music]
499
00:24:55,114 --> 00:24:57,254
[music continues]
500
00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:01,292
Everything on YouTube
changed when
501
00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:04,468
the recommender algorithm
was introduced in 2011.
502
00:25:05,089 --> 00:25:07,506
YouTube started rewarding
the content that had
503
00:25:07,644 --> 00:25:11,648
the highest click-through rates
and the highest watch time.
504
00:25:11,786 --> 00:25:13,581
And like, some kind
of combination of that.
505
00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,825
[upbeat music]
506
00:25:17,792 --> 00:25:20,553
[Anthony] The algorithm doesn't
differentiate between
507
00:25:20,691 --> 00:25:22,969
a positive piece of content
that makes you feel good,
508
00:25:23,107 --> 00:25:24,764
walk away with a smile
on your face,
509
00:25:24,902 --> 00:25:26,732
versus something
that pisses you off
510
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:28,699
and makes you super angry.
511
00:25:28,837 --> 00:25:31,944
In fact, it tends to sway
toward the stuff that makes
you angry,
512
00:25:32,082 --> 00:25:34,291
because you're more likely
to click on other videos
513
00:25:34,947 --> 00:25:37,674
to learn more about this subject
that's upsetting you,
514
00:25:37,812 --> 00:25:40,539
you're more likely to respond
to a negative thing
515
00:25:40,677 --> 00:25:43,058
that gets under your skin
if it's in the comments.
516
00:25:44,094 --> 00:25:47,166
Unless you are sort
of seeking out specific content,
517
00:25:47,304 --> 00:25:49,720
what YouTube serves you
is sort of a stew of the stuff
518
00:25:49,858 --> 00:25:52,551
that's meant to excite
and engage,
519
00:25:52,689 --> 00:25:55,208
you know, whether
positively or negatively.
520
00:25:56,037 --> 00:26:01,111
[Anthony] YouTube also didn't
want clickbait to be the number
one thing
521
00:26:01,249 --> 00:26:02,940
that was dominating
the platform.
522
00:26:03,078 --> 00:26:04,770
I think that they cracked
down by saying,
523
00:26:04,908 --> 00:26:07,531
"Well, we'll reward whoever
sticks around the longest."
524
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:10,258
So you can't just have that
enticing thumbnail and
trick people into getting there.
525
00:26:10,396 --> 00:26:14,158
You have to also captivate them
and keep them around.
526
00:26:16,091 --> 00:26:20,199
Part of me is scared
about what impacts
527
00:26:20,337 --> 00:26:22,719
these algorithms
will have on the future
528
00:26:24,203 --> 00:26:27,413
because the algorithm
is a beast that really can't
be tamed
529
00:26:27,551 --> 00:26:29,760
once it's been unleashed
and it's already been unleashed.
530
00:26:29,898 --> 00:26:32,280
We have some really big
projects, we got Food Battle,
of course, coming up,
531
00:26:32,418 --> 00:26:34,834
we've got some big music
videos we're working on.
532
00:26:34,972 --> 00:26:36,491
-Yeah.
-We're upping our game.
533
00:26:37,147 --> 00:26:39,114
[Anthony] But it's like,
it's an endless loop.
534
00:26:40,875 --> 00:26:42,773
You step away from YouTube
for a little while as
a content creator
535
00:26:42,911 --> 00:26:44,810
and you feel a little...
536
00:26:45,776 --> 00:26:48,676
pain in your heart.
Like, what if
people stop...
537
00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:50,919
What, are people gonna
forget about me
538
00:26:51,057 --> 00:26:52,956
if I take two or three
weeks off?
539
00:26:53,094 --> 00:26:54,785
or even a month off,
are people...?
540
00:26:54,923 --> 00:26:58,617
Is the algorithm not going
to show my content
to anyone again?
541
00:26:58,755 --> 00:27:01,171
So the algorithm is controlling
the creator in that sense.
542
00:27:01,309 --> 00:27:05,727
It makes you feel obligated
to continue your momentum.
543
00:27:05,865 --> 00:27:08,765
You can't break your momentum
is kind of the feeling
that most people have.
544
00:27:08,903 --> 00:27:10,905
[eerie music]
545
00:27:11,043 --> 00:27:13,562
These platforms are in
the engagement business.
546
00:27:13,701 --> 00:27:15,668
At the end of the day, they're
giving away their products
for free.
547
00:27:15,806 --> 00:27:18,947
And the way they make money is
by keeping you on the platform
548
00:27:19,085 --> 00:27:21,501
for as long as possible,
extracting data from you,
549
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,711
and delivering ads.
550
00:27:23,849 --> 00:27:26,196
Now Facebook, it's very easy
to see the recommendation
algorithms.
551
00:27:26,334 --> 00:27:30,372
Your newsfeed is
100% curated for you
552
00:27:30,510 --> 00:27:33,168
to provide you with articles
that will keep you
553
00:27:33,306 --> 00:27:35,067
on the platform for
as long as possible.
554
00:27:35,205 --> 00:27:37,207
YouTube, it's a little bit less
obvious,
555
00:27:37,345 --> 00:27:40,762
But if you look at the viewing
patterns on YouTube,
556
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,316
a full 70%, 7-0,
557
00:27:43,454 --> 00:27:46,078
of all YouTube videos that
are watched today
558
00:27:46,216 --> 00:27:50,496
are recommended by YouTube
through Watch Next,
559
00:27:50,634 --> 00:27:52,912
so the autoplay that is
by default on,
560
00:27:53,050 --> 00:27:55,363
and then the Recommended
For You panel
561
00:27:55,501 --> 00:27:57,365
and the recommendations
on the right hand side.
562
00:27:57,503 --> 00:27:58,918
How's it choosing those?
563
00:27:59,056 --> 00:28:01,541
So of course,
part of that algorithm is,
564
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,578
"This is something
that is relevant to this."
565
00:28:03,716 --> 00:28:05,407
But some of it is that,
566
00:28:05,545 --> 00:28:07,064
"Look, we know people will click
on this, and if you click on it,
567
00:28:07,202 --> 00:28:09,446
I get more data
and I get more ads."
568
00:28:10,171 --> 00:28:11,551
And that has led to lots
of problems.
569
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,519
The rabbit hole effect,
the echo chamber.
570
00:28:13,657 --> 00:28:15,832
So for example, if you go
on to YouTube today
571
00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:17,592
you click on moon landing,
572
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:20,112
within a couple of clicks,
you will be in La-la Land
573
00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:21,630
talking about conspiracy
theories
574
00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:23,840
around that the moon
landing is faked.
575
00:28:23,978 --> 00:28:28,810
A full 10% of recommendations
were conspiratorial.
576
00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:30,329
That's insane.
577
00:28:30,847 --> 00:28:33,228
Well, I just got kicked out
of Starbucks for asking
578
00:28:33,366 --> 00:28:36,438
NASA employee questions
because he's lying.
579
00:28:37,957 --> 00:28:41,098
[Hany] So it's not just that
these platforms are neutral.
580
00:28:41,236 --> 00:28:43,066
You know,
it'd be one thing to say,
581
00:28:43,204 --> 00:28:44,930
"Hey, look, we are sitting back,
people can upload videos,
582
00:28:45,068 --> 00:28:46,414
you get to look
at what you want."
583
00:28:46,552 --> 00:28:48,278
That's not how
these platforms work.
584
00:28:48,416 --> 00:28:51,177
They are choosing
to amplify things that engage.
585
00:28:51,315 --> 00:28:54,456
And what we know is that
the more conspiratorial,
the more hateful,
586
00:28:54,594 --> 00:28:56,320
the more divisive,
the more it engages.
587
00:28:56,458 --> 00:28:58,806
Dipshit.
And get that camera out of my...
588
00:29:00,393 --> 00:29:03,017
[engine roaring]
589
00:29:06,089 --> 00:29:08,091
[calm music]
590
00:29:08,436 --> 00:29:11,370
[Caleb Cain] I realized that
the Internet was a place
591
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:15,201
where a lot of people
describe it as escapism,
and I kind of resent that.
592
00:29:15,339 --> 00:29:18,722
Because it's not just that,
I had video games for escapism.
593
00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:22,001
I had, you know, going out
with my friends for escapism.
594
00:29:22,139 --> 00:29:23,485
But what the Internet had was,
595
00:29:23,796 --> 00:29:25,798
especially in the early days
of YouTube,
596
00:29:26,143 --> 00:29:28,180
you could find
dissident information,
597
00:29:28,318 --> 00:29:30,872
You could find information
on there that was outside
the culture.
598
00:29:31,321 --> 00:29:33,944
And the reason that's
so important is because
you can't see
599
00:29:34,082 --> 00:29:37,430
contradictions in your society
unless you get
outside the culture.
600
00:29:38,707 --> 00:29:40,951
[calm music]
601
00:29:41,952 --> 00:29:45,784
Suddenly, I could start to see
how things in my life
weren't working
602
00:29:45,922 --> 00:29:48,890
because I could see what
was going on in other places.
603
00:29:49,615 --> 00:29:51,651
It didn't always lead you
to the right place.
604
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:55,759
And sometimes the truth comes
with a lie and a price tag.
605
00:29:56,587 --> 00:29:59,694
But you had freedom
that you never had before,
606
00:29:59,832 --> 00:30:03,008
and that I never experienced
in my day-to-day life.
607
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:07,495
Hi, everybody. My name is Caleb.
608
00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:10,843
You know, welcome to my channel.
609
00:30:12,741 --> 00:30:17,746
So you can probably tell
by the description
610
00:30:18,333 --> 00:30:22,027
on the video, in the title,
what this is gonna be about.
611
00:30:24,098 --> 00:30:27,273
So I'm just gonna get
right into it.
612
00:30:29,137 --> 00:30:34,039
I fell down
the alt-right rabbit hole.
613
00:30:34,177 --> 00:30:36,213
So it begins.
614
00:30:36,351 --> 00:30:39,182
You're in a death battle,
New World Order. We know.
615
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,149
If I lived in Saudi Arabia,
they'd kill me.
616
00:30:41,287 --> 00:30:42,841
If I lived in China,
they'd kill me.
617
00:30:42,979 --> 00:30:45,153
You still gotta sell your soul.
618
00:30:45,291 --> 00:30:46,914
You gotta write
your name in blood.
619
00:30:47,052 --> 00:30:49,330
[man] Whites are getting fed up,
620
00:30:49,468 --> 00:30:53,023
Whites are getting tired
of being disenfranchised
and neglected.
621
00:30:53,161 --> 00:30:55,405
Hail our people. Hail victory.
622
00:30:55,543 --> 00:30:57,372
[laughs]
623
00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:59,236
[screams]
624
00:30:59,374 --> 00:31:00,686
[Caleb]
Well, at first I was kinda just
depressed skimming the web.
625
00:31:00,824 --> 00:31:02,481
But I think at some point,
626
00:31:02,619 --> 00:31:05,380
I had found this video called
"God is in the Neurons,"
627
00:31:05,518 --> 00:31:08,280
and it was from this YouTuber
that I used to watch in
high school,
628
00:31:08,418 --> 00:31:10,282
And it gave me this concept that
629
00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:12,422
I could rewire my brain
and really self-improve.
630
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,426
[man] Our beliefs have
a profound impact on
our body chemistry.
631
00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:18,911
[Caleb] And that took me
to self-help content.
632
00:31:19,049 --> 00:31:21,431
And then the algorithm just
started feeding up
more self-help content.
633
00:31:21,569 --> 00:31:24,296
There is no such thing
as mental illness.
634
00:31:24,572 --> 00:31:26,263
[Caleb] You start with someone
like Stefan
635
00:31:26,401 --> 00:31:28,024
because you're looking
for self-help.
636
00:31:28,541 --> 00:31:30,509
And so we call that
an on-ramp, right?
637
00:31:30,647 --> 00:31:32,994
In the study of extremism,
we would call that an on-ramp.
638
00:31:33,132 --> 00:31:36,239
And you go from that self-help,
639
00:31:36,377 --> 00:31:39,311
which has now validated
your identity,
640
00:31:39,449 --> 00:31:41,589
it's given you
a direction to go,
641
00:31:41,727 --> 00:31:45,800
it's given you an algorithmic
list, to use the word
a bit ironically,
642
00:31:45,938 --> 00:31:47,215
of things that you have to do.
643
00:31:47,353 --> 00:31:48,803
And I'll tell you what,
644
00:31:48,941 --> 00:31:50,701
people are looking for
that in a complicated world
645
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,187
and especially young
men are looking for that.
646
00:31:53,325 --> 00:31:56,017
It's now time
for the return of men.
647
00:31:57,087 --> 00:32:01,678
[Caleb] It seems that
the algorithm would always
pull you towards
648
00:32:01,816 --> 00:32:03,369
the more hyperbolic content,
649
00:32:03,507 --> 00:32:05,682
towards the content that
was a bit more extreme.
650
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:09,824
Muslims by the million
have been pouring into Europe.
651
00:32:10,273 --> 00:32:12,171
And you can see
the terrible problems
652
00:32:12,309 --> 00:32:14,346
that have arisen
as a consequence.
653
00:32:14,484 --> 00:32:16,831
[Caleb] And there was
an uncomfortability when
you went a bit deeper
654
00:32:16,969 --> 00:32:18,557
into this specific ideology,
655
00:32:18,695 --> 00:32:22,216
because not only is
it depressing, but it's hateful,
656
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,804
That specific rabbit hole,
657
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:28,774
I feel like what it was truly
doing was, it wasn't
radicalizing me,
658
00:32:28,912 --> 00:32:33,503
I was already radicalizing
because of how
my life was going.
659
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:38,577
But it was killing my empathy.
It was turning me
into a sociopath.
660
00:32:39,854 --> 00:32:42,615
[insects buzzing]
661
00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:52,004
YouTube is now like a Walmart in
a town where there's a Walmart
662
00:32:52,142 --> 00:32:54,593
and a Dollar General and a CVS.
663
00:32:54,731 --> 00:32:58,114
Like it's one of the sole
organizing destinations.
664
00:32:58,252 --> 00:32:59,632
And in the case
of the far right,
665
00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:01,703
and like, right-wing
political content,
666
00:33:01,841 --> 00:33:03,326
radicalizing political content,
667
00:33:03,464 --> 00:33:06,501
it's like Walmart having
a big old gun aisle.
668
00:33:12,162 --> 00:33:13,784
[Natalie]
Well, I think a lot of people
669
00:33:13,922 --> 00:33:16,891
come to YouTube to do
commentary, to do politics
670
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:21,309
because they feel like
their perspective is not
represented elsewhere.
671
00:33:21,447 --> 00:33:24,071
Words like racist, misogynistic,
672
00:33:24,209 --> 00:33:26,901
and transphobic are not insults,
673
00:33:27,384 --> 00:33:30,284
nor are they stereotypes
or generalizations.
674
00:33:30,801 --> 00:33:33,942
Rather, they are facts about
the way we are socialized
675
00:33:34,081 --> 00:33:35,737
in a Western society.
676
00:33:35,875 --> 00:33:38,050
I'll be honest with you,
if I hate anything about
Black culture,
677
00:33:38,188 --> 00:33:41,433
it's that it's such
a victim culture,
almost a victim cult.
678
00:33:41,985 --> 00:33:44,229
[Natalie] I do think in general
that people who feel
marginalized
679
00:33:44,367 --> 00:33:47,818
or who feel like they're
on the fringe, tend to gather
on YouTube.
680
00:33:47,956 --> 00:33:49,372
You don't deserve to get laid.
681
00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:51,339
[Caleb]
Then come along the alt right,
682
00:33:51,477 --> 00:33:53,962
and they really took
that whole dynamic
683
00:33:54,101 --> 00:33:57,276
and just revolutionized it
and innovated it.
684
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,108
And then they took many
of those Internet nihilists
685
00:34:01,246 --> 00:34:04,766
and they took
that radical energy,
and they directed it
686
00:34:05,698 --> 00:34:08,736
well,
towards dominance, and fear,
687
00:34:08,874 --> 00:34:10,358
and hate, to be honest with you.
688
00:34:11,118 --> 00:34:13,844
[sigh]
Well, this is my last video.
689
00:34:15,225 --> 00:34:16,916
It all has to come to this.
690
00:34:17,572 --> 00:34:19,919
You forced me
to suffer all my life,
691
00:34:20,334 --> 00:34:22,508
and now
I'll make you all suffer.
692
00:34:24,648 --> 00:34:26,995
[female TV host] An angry and
psychologically twisted young
man whose public rantings
693
00:34:27,134 --> 00:34:29,032
exploded into sheer terror.
694
00:34:29,170 --> 00:34:30,723
[gunshots]
695
00:34:30,861 --> 00:34:32,760
[policeman]
Shots fired. Shots fired.
696
00:34:32,898 --> 00:34:35,418
[female TV host]
Taking six young lives
and injuring 13.
697
00:34:35,556 --> 00:34:37,696
A virgin vowing revenge
698
00:34:37,834 --> 00:34:42,356
in a twisted video he posted
Friday, addressed at his
perceived enemies,
699
00:34:42,494 --> 00:34:44,737
young women he says
rejected him.
700
00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:49,604
You will finally see that I am,
in truth, the superior one,
701
00:34:50,847 --> 00:34:52,676
the true alpha male.
702
00:34:53,712 --> 00:34:57,025
[woman] Aggression, violence
and unbridled ambition can't be
eliminated
703
00:34:57,164 --> 00:34:58,303
from the male psyche.
704
00:34:58,441 --> 00:35:00,201
They can only be harnessed.
705
00:35:00,339 --> 00:35:02,479
Rape, murder, war.
706
00:35:02,617 --> 00:35:04,481
They all have two things
in common.
707
00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:08,244
Bad men who do the raping,
murdering and warring,
708
00:35:08,382 --> 00:35:09,900
and weak men
who won't stop them.
709
00:35:10,038 --> 00:35:11,833
We need good men who will.
710
00:35:12,696 --> 00:35:14,802
PragerU is an interesting
example because
711
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,632
they pitch themselves
as an educational channel.
712
00:35:17,770 --> 00:35:21,567
They very much mimic
online course stuff,
713
00:35:21,705 --> 00:35:25,537
but what they're feeding you
is very, very, quite radical
714
00:35:25,675 --> 00:35:27,263
right wing ideology.
715
00:35:27,401 --> 00:35:29,161
My message has been simple.
716
00:35:29,713 --> 00:35:31,957
Islam is not
a religion of peace.
717
00:35:32,751 --> 00:35:35,374
[Talia] I think one
of the things to debunk
is this idea that
718
00:35:35,512 --> 00:35:37,411
it's solely an algorithm issue.
719
00:35:37,549 --> 00:35:39,896
One big mechanism
of radicalization,
720
00:35:40,034 --> 00:35:42,416
it's not just algorithmic,
it's very deliberate.
721
00:35:42,554 --> 00:35:47,075
These channels, they build
parasocial relationships
with their viewers
722
00:35:47,214 --> 00:35:49,526
so they feel a deep
connection with you.
723
00:35:49,664 --> 00:35:52,115
I think it's more visceral
with video content.
724
00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:54,980
I think it's more intense
with video content.
725
00:35:55,118 --> 00:35:58,915
My name is Candace Owens,
and you are watching
my vlog series.
726
00:35:59,053 --> 00:36:02,436
[Talia] You know, the sort
of confessional vlog-y, casual,
727
00:36:02,574 --> 00:36:04,886
"This is my living room,
you're looking at me,"
728
00:36:05,439 --> 00:36:10,616
kind of style, really, really
facilitates that kind
of parasocial relationship.
729
00:36:10,754 --> 00:36:13,654
I just wanted to say thank you.
I've seen some of the comments.
730
00:36:13,895 --> 00:36:16,450
Some of you are a marvel.
You send actual letters.
731
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,073
[Talia] And it's just, like,
a Suggested Follows,
732
00:36:19,211 --> 00:36:21,109
And that's its own issue.
733
00:36:21,248 --> 00:36:23,353
Because these are very
well-funded channels,
734
00:36:23,491 --> 00:36:25,528
these are big moneymakers.
735
00:36:25,666 --> 00:36:27,875
[Steven Crowder]
There are two videos completed
here, Louder with Crowder.
736
00:36:28,013 --> 00:36:30,291
This team never would've
been able to do,
737
00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:32,155
if not for this man, Kevin,
738
00:36:32,293 --> 00:36:35,469
lending us his personal plane.
739
00:36:36,608 --> 00:36:39,231
[woman]
My skin's been pretty good,
to be honest.
740
00:36:39,956 --> 00:36:41,647
I think YouTube is
a very intimate format.
741
00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:43,339
If you're watching
a YouTube video,
742
00:36:43,477 --> 00:36:45,651
people tend to watch
it by themselves,
743
00:36:45,789 --> 00:36:47,412
you watch it while you're
eating, you watch it while
you're going to bed.
744
00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:49,552
You're watching
one person talk to you.
745
00:36:49,862 --> 00:36:51,519
There's something very
intimate about that.
746
00:36:51,657 --> 00:36:54,212
You feel like you know
this person.
747
00:36:54,350 --> 00:36:59,458
It's a little bit uncanny,
you know, because they feel
that they know me,
748
00:37:00,114 --> 00:37:01,978
but I don't know them.
749
00:37:02,668 --> 00:37:04,532
We've talked about some heavy
stuff on this channel.
750
00:37:04,670 --> 00:37:06,258
But I was gonna say,
"Oh, it's one of th..."
751
00:37:06,396 --> 00:37:09,710
You know, if someone's
broadcasting from their bedroom,
752
00:37:09,848 --> 00:37:12,195
you feel this real sense
of intimacy with them,
753
00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:15,474
you feel like you know
the intimate details
of their lives.
754
00:37:15,612 --> 00:37:20,099
I remember once I had
a girlfriend who was not
jealous to begin with,
755
00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:21,929
but became kind of jealous,
756
00:37:22,067 --> 00:37:24,483
particularly as I became
more successful
as an entrepreneur.
757
00:37:24,621 --> 00:37:26,830
She became more jealous
and more insecure.
758
00:37:28,694 --> 00:37:30,489
[Becca] And then when they start
kind of telling you
about their beliefs
759
00:37:30,627 --> 00:37:32,698
and views,
that packs a real punch
760
00:37:32,836 --> 00:37:35,908
that other delivery
mechanisms wouldn't.
761
00:37:36,046 --> 00:37:39,257
The right are the producers,
the makers,
and the left are the takers
762
00:37:39,395 --> 00:37:41,845
or those who manage that
taking and thereby gain
political power
763
00:37:41,983 --> 00:37:45,090
by being able to hand out gifts
that they have not earned
764
00:37:45,228 --> 00:37:47,057
but are taking from the makers.
765
00:37:47,575 --> 00:37:51,510
[Becca] And so there's become
this kind of cottage industry of
766
00:37:51,648 --> 00:37:56,204
far-right creators on YouTube
who take advantage of that
767
00:37:56,343 --> 00:37:57,965
and broadcast to their audiences
768
00:37:58,103 --> 00:38:01,140
and are quite effective
at radicalizing them.
769
00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:04,799
I'm a weapon.
I'm made to be thrown at you.
[laughs]
770
00:38:06,387 --> 00:38:09,356
[uplifting music]
771
00:38:12,048 --> 00:38:14,430
Just between you and I,
I know the cameras aren't
on right now, right?
772
00:38:14,568 --> 00:38:15,845
-Say, "What?"
-What?
773
00:38:15,983 --> 00:38:17,536
I know the cameras are not
on right now.
774
00:38:17,674 --> 00:38:19,642
-Keep saying, "What"?
-What?
775
00:38:19,780 --> 00:38:21,299
[laughs]
776
00:38:21,437 --> 00:38:23,922
[Anthony]
Yeah, I mean, it was
really hard for me to,
777
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:26,304
like, even think about where
YouTube was going because
we're so caught up in it.
778
00:38:26,442 --> 00:38:31,067
But I definitely thought that
it was going to replace
mainstream media.
779
00:38:31,654 --> 00:38:33,863
All right. Love you guys.
Thanks again for supporting.
780
00:38:34,001 --> 00:38:35,554
-Thank you.
-Love you. Bye.
781
00:38:35,692 --> 00:38:38,868
I knew that this was going
to be the way
782
00:38:39,006 --> 00:38:41,388
that the Internet
was going to go.
783
00:38:41,526 --> 00:38:44,149
I've had offers to do a show
for Netflix, or for Amazon
784
00:38:44,287 --> 00:38:46,910
or cable TV, or whatever.
I always declined them.
785
00:38:47,048 --> 00:38:49,568
Because I don't really see why
786
00:38:49,706 --> 00:38:52,330
I would give up
my own creative control,
787
00:38:52,468 --> 00:38:56,817
and this, like, child that
I've raised, basically.
788
00:38:56,955 --> 00:38:58,922
you know, I want to keep it.
789
00:38:59,060 --> 00:39:00,821
[saw buzzing]
790
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,791
[Susan] We're a platform
that enables creators
791
00:39:05,929 --> 00:39:07,621
who are really next
generation media companies.
792
00:39:07,759 --> 00:39:09,381
Welcome back to my channel,
everyone.
793
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:11,349
Today I wanna show you guys
some life hacks. Now, before...
794
00:39:11,487 --> 00:39:13,558
[Susan] We've seen so many
people take their passions,
795
00:39:13,696 --> 00:39:15,145
whether it's about cooking,
796
00:39:15,283 --> 00:39:17,147
woodworking, music,
797
00:39:17,769 --> 00:39:20,150
and turn that into a business
and become a creator
798
00:39:20,288 --> 00:39:23,119
and become a global media
company on YouTube.
799
00:39:23,257 --> 00:39:25,915
Hello. Hi. How's it going?
800
00:39:26,053 --> 00:39:29,712
I finally got it.
I got the 10 million
subscriber plaque
801
00:39:29,850 --> 00:39:32,508
But this is special because
it represents, like,
802
00:39:32,646 --> 00:39:35,027
how far we have come
as a community,
803
00:39:35,165 --> 00:39:38,859
and it represents, you know,
how much we have accomplished.
804
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,828
[birds chirping]
805
00:39:44,243 --> 00:39:47,902
[Brianna Wu] What I thought was
so amazing about YouTube
when it first came out
806
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,905
is it really allowed
this hyper-segmentation.
807
00:39:51,492 --> 00:39:55,841
So if you were a gamer
that wanted to understand tricks
808
00:39:55,979 --> 00:40:00,398
from an obscure Japanese game
from 20 years ago,
809
00:40:00,536 --> 00:40:02,400
[upbeat music]
810
00:40:02,538 --> 00:40:04,919
boom, that exists out there.
811
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,164
[upbeat music continues]
812
00:40:09,096 --> 00:40:13,583
And it was just
this massive explosion.
813
00:40:14,757 --> 00:40:17,691
But I think for me,
obviously Gamergate was
814
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:22,178
when I really realized
something was going off course.
815
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:24,974
[dramatic music]
816
00:40:25,112 --> 00:40:28,874
I had just finished shipping
my very first game.
817
00:40:29,012 --> 00:40:32,775
And, you know, getting into
a political fight with
the Internet
818
00:40:32,913 --> 00:40:34,846
was the last thing
I wanted to do.
819
00:40:35,571 --> 00:40:40,230
But people on YouTube had
started to come together
in a way
820
00:40:40,368 --> 00:40:43,475
to silence women
in the game industry
821
00:40:44,234 --> 00:40:47,652
that were starting to ask
for more representation,
822
00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:52,035
asking to be higher,
asking to be given
more opportunity.
823
00:40:52,173 --> 00:40:54,037
[gentle music]
824
00:40:54,313 --> 00:40:57,489
It started out with
this kind of Tumblr-style
825
00:40:57,627 --> 00:41:00,043
call-out post about Zoeë Quinn.
826
00:41:00,181 --> 00:41:02,114
[Natalie] I guess
her ex-boyfriend accused her
827
00:41:02,252 --> 00:41:04,841
of sleeping with journalists
and cheating on him.
828
00:41:04,979 --> 00:41:07,154
And I started to speak
out against it.
829
00:41:07,292 --> 00:41:09,674
[calm music]
830
00:41:09,915 --> 00:41:11,572
I was sitting
at my home one day,
831
00:41:11,710 --> 00:41:14,333
and I get this really credible
832
00:41:14,713 --> 00:41:18,027
list of death threats that
went mega viral on the Internet,
833
00:41:18,165 --> 00:41:20,443
and they are burned
into my brain.
834
00:41:20,581 --> 00:41:22,549
[gasps]
835
00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,862
"Guess what, bitch,
I know where you and
your husband live."
836
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,797
They give my address.
"You're going to die tonight."
837
00:41:29,935 --> 00:41:33,283
"I'm going to rape you
with your husband's
838
00:41:33,421 --> 00:41:35,700
tiny Asian penis
until you bleed."
839
00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:38,634
"If you have any children,
they're going to die, too."
840
00:41:38,772 --> 00:41:44,053
That was the moment that
I decided I wasn't safe
at my home.
841
00:41:44,191 --> 00:41:48,609
And I left, and I got the police
and the FBI involved.
842
00:41:48,747 --> 00:41:53,614
Brianna Wu is a games developer
who says she was forced
843
00:41:53,856 --> 00:41:58,377
to leave her home over
the weekend after receiving
targeted threats.
844
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,310
She joins me now from Boston.
845
00:42:00,725 --> 00:42:02,416
[Zoeë] Instantly,
they dived in to,
846
00:42:02,554 --> 00:42:05,730
"Find where she lives.
Find where all these people
live.
847
00:42:05,868 --> 00:42:07,179
What are we going
to do about her?
848
00:42:07,317 --> 00:42:09,423
Can we hack her e-mail?"
Like, instantly?
849
00:42:09,561 --> 00:42:11,114
[mouse clicks]
850
00:42:11,252 --> 00:42:13,945
And then all of these accounts
started being made
851
00:42:14,083 --> 00:42:18,225
to talk about really
disgusting personal details
852
00:42:18,363 --> 00:42:21,400
and talk about like, make really
disgusting sexual comments.
853
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:26,751
And it's the first thing
you lose is all perspective.
854
00:42:27,268 --> 00:42:29,754
[soft tense music]
855
00:42:30,271 --> 00:42:32,342
[Brianna]
There was an organized effort
856
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,933
to basically do SEO warfare,
search engine warfare.
857
00:42:37,071 --> 00:42:38,590
You know this as well as I do.
858
00:42:38,728 --> 00:42:40,488
If I type your name
into the Internet,
859
00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:44,078
a bunch of YouTube videos are
going to be the first thing
listed.
860
00:42:44,631 --> 00:42:46,529
So what Gamergate figured out
861
00:42:46,667 --> 00:42:48,842
was that they could gain the SEO
862
00:42:49,394 --> 00:42:51,569
and start putting out
these videos, you know,
863
00:42:51,707 --> 00:42:56,228
Brianna Wu is a terrible person
for A, B, C, D, and E,
864
00:42:57,264 --> 00:42:59,404
and basically malign my name.
865
00:42:59,542 --> 00:43:03,926
YouTube was a major part
of the harassment
that I received.
866
00:43:05,065 --> 00:43:07,343
[seagulls squawking]
867
00:43:07,964 --> 00:43:09,483
[horns honking]
868
00:43:09,621 --> 00:43:11,416
[engine revving]
869
00:43:11,554 --> 00:43:13,383
[horns honking]
870
00:43:13,521 --> 00:43:15,558
[Carrie Goldberg]
Yeah, I hear that a lot
where people are like,
871
00:43:15,696 --> 00:43:18,768
"Listen, the Internet,
it's just a mirror on society.
872
00:43:18,906 --> 00:43:21,391
And so why should
we be focusing on fixing
873
00:43:21,529 --> 00:43:24,360
the Internet instead
of on society?
874
00:43:25,568 --> 00:43:27,018
And the thing is,
875
00:43:27,432 --> 00:43:29,883
that, in my opinion,
and my experience
876
00:43:30,021 --> 00:43:33,921
as a lawyer for people who've
been fucked over by tech,
877
00:43:34,059 --> 00:43:37,062
is that it is itself the weapon.
878
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,650
The Internet has
created this, like,
879
00:43:38,788 --> 00:43:41,342
really convenient
mechanism to harm.
880
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,829
and the platforms are making,
just like they're minting money
off of it.
881
00:43:44,967 --> 00:43:48,522
And so I don't agree that
it is just a reflection
of society.
882
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:50,351
It's changed society.
883
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,149
[dramatic music]
884
00:43:57,842 --> 00:43:59,775
The thing about the algorithm is
885
00:43:59,913 --> 00:44:01,777
what they're recommending
is a harm.
886
00:44:01,915 --> 00:44:05,090
Their lust for hijacking
people's attention
887
00:44:05,228 --> 00:44:06,713
is an additional harm.
888
00:44:06,851 --> 00:44:10,130
The other issue of them
publishing content
889
00:44:10,268 --> 00:44:13,823
that is itself harmful,
that they're not removing.
890
00:44:13,961 --> 00:44:16,308
[Norah O'Donnell] We begin with
breaking news in Virginia.
891
00:44:16,446 --> 00:44:19,622
A gunman opened fire during
a live TV news interview.
892
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,420
A reporter and photographer
with our CBS affiliate WDBJ
893
00:44:24,558 --> 00:44:26,146
in Roanoke were killed.
894
00:44:26,353 --> 00:44:28,838
[male reporter] Andy Parker
couldn't get video
895
00:44:28,976 --> 00:44:33,015
of his daughter's murder
off of Google's YouTube.
896
00:44:34,948 --> 00:44:37,019
[soft tense music]
897
00:44:38,986 --> 00:44:41,230
[birds chirping]
898
00:44:42,472 --> 00:44:46,511
[Andy] I went to YouTube,
typed in Alison Parker,
899
00:44:46,891 --> 00:44:50,273
and literally there were pages
and pages and pages.
900
00:44:50,411 --> 00:44:55,002
There must have been
25 to 50 pages of, you know,
901
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:57,660
thankfully it didn't autoplay,
but you knew what it was.
902
00:44:57,798 --> 00:45:00,628
And in the titles of it,
a lot of it was,
903
00:45:00,767 --> 00:45:02,354
"See, the whole thing was fake."
904
00:45:02,492 --> 00:45:05,185
You know, it was, like,
one thing after another.
905
00:45:06,151 --> 00:45:10,362
It's not like you can
just call up Google customer
service and go,
906
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:12,537
"Hey, you know,
I got a problem here."
907
00:45:12,675 --> 00:45:14,919
[soft tense music]
908
00:45:16,852 --> 00:45:18,888
[Susan] Well, we've invested
a huge amount in the area
of responsibility.
909
00:45:19,026 --> 00:45:22,720
We also have thousands
of people who help us
with the enforcement.
910
00:45:22,858 --> 00:45:26,931
We have machines
that remove, you know,
911
00:45:27,069 --> 00:45:31,314
almost 90% of the videos
before anyone has to see them.
912
00:45:31,452 --> 00:45:34,007
So we have a huge initiative
across the board
913
00:45:34,145 --> 00:45:36,078
to make sure that we're
staying current in terms
914
00:45:36,216 --> 00:45:40,013
of the creation of the policies
as well as the enforcement
915
00:45:40,151 --> 00:45:41,669
of those policies
to find those videos
916
00:45:41,808 --> 00:45:44,569
as quickly as possible,
and make sure they're removed.
917
00:45:45,225 --> 00:45:49,781
If you need me to work
on the op papers,
918
00:45:49,919 --> 00:45:51,610
I'm free and available.
919
00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:55,200
It just makes me feel
like individuals don't stand
a chance.
920
00:45:55,649 --> 00:45:56,961
You've got this like,
921
00:45:57,099 --> 00:45:58,963
multi-billion dollar company
that's saying,
922
00:45:59,722 --> 00:46:01,620
you know, that's just like
lording over, like,
923
00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:05,763
ownership of your dead
daughter's murder video
over you,
924
00:46:05,901 --> 00:46:09,421
that are saying, "We're not
going to take it down because,
925
00:46:09,836 --> 00:46:12,597
you know, like, you aren't
the copyright holder of it.
926
00:46:12,735 --> 00:46:16,774
And even though our terms
of service says that we ban
927
00:46:16,912 --> 00:46:18,948
this kind of violent imagery,
928
00:46:19,397 --> 00:46:22,089
we don't have
the legal requirement
929
00:46:22,227 --> 00:46:23,850
to even enforce
our terms of service.
930
00:46:23,988 --> 00:46:26,404
Like, you can't make us
do anything."
931
00:46:27,129 --> 00:46:29,510
We have kind of a mantra
of don't be evil,
932
00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:34,032
which is to do the best things
that we know how for our users,
933
00:46:34,170 --> 00:46:36,724
for our customers
and for everyone.
934
00:46:37,001 --> 00:46:39,003
And so, I think if
we were known for that,
935
00:46:39,141 --> 00:46:40,832
it would be a wonderful thing.
936
00:46:42,661 --> 00:46:44,525
[Larry] When Google,
the two founders said,
937
00:46:44,974 --> 00:46:46,942
"Our motto is don't be evil."
938
00:46:47,183 --> 00:46:48,460
And for a while they weren't.
939
00:46:48,598 --> 00:46:51,222
But now they are
the personification of evil,
940
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:53,155
and they don't care.
941
00:46:54,328 --> 00:46:56,330
You can flag this stuff,
and then
942
00:46:56,468 --> 00:46:59,092
you can make that go away,
but then something
else will pop up.
943
00:46:59,540 --> 00:47:04,028
That's why I said we have
to go after the great
white whale, Google.
944
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,135
[soft piano music]
945
00:47:11,345 --> 00:47:12,933
So YouTube likes to say
946
00:47:13,071 --> 00:47:16,212
it's a completely different
company from Google.
947
00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:18,456
What's your opinion about that?
948
00:47:18,594 --> 00:47:21,114
My experience is
the two have always been
949
00:47:21,252 --> 00:47:24,565
treated as synonymous
in every interaction
950
00:47:24,703 --> 00:47:26,533
I've ever had at Google.
951
00:47:26,671 --> 00:47:29,225
I can tell you the impression
I've gotten is that
these products
952
00:47:29,363 --> 00:47:31,400
are kind of all under
one umbrella.
953
00:47:31,538 --> 00:47:34,610
I realize it's more complicated
than that when you get to,
954
00:47:34,748 --> 00:47:36,854
you know, product managers
and who owns what,
955
00:47:36,992 --> 00:47:41,582
but, I personally don't find
that excuse credible.
956
00:47:42,756 --> 00:47:44,516
[tense music]
957
00:47:45,172 --> 00:47:49,314
I think that Google has really
been far ahead of the game
958
00:47:49,452 --> 00:47:52,386
from its competitors
in terms of anticipating
959
00:47:52,524 --> 00:47:54,837
these legislative fights.
960
00:47:54,975 --> 00:47:56,943
[Alan Davidson] We've realized
that we need to have
a larger presence here,
961
00:47:57,081 --> 00:48:02,327
that the Internet is affecting
a lot of how people live today.
962
00:48:02,465 --> 00:48:05,503
And we need, our industry
needs to be here
963
00:48:05,641 --> 00:48:08,023
to help explain that
to members of Congress.
964
00:48:08,851 --> 00:48:10,715
[Nitasha] You know, the company
has spent more than a decade
965
00:48:10,853 --> 00:48:14,650
kind of cultivating politicians
on the right, on the center.
966
00:48:14,788 --> 00:48:17,825
If you look at pretty much
any policy decision where
967
00:48:17,964 --> 00:48:20,276
Google could potentially
be impacted, you know,
968
00:48:20,414 --> 00:48:22,761
sometimes I think about
it as like a big circle,
969
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,832
and you know,
you have the left and the right,
970
00:48:24,971 --> 00:48:26,662
and Google has given money
971
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,079
to just everyone
involved in the debates.
[laughs]
972
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:32,185
[Eric Schmidt] Google's mission
is to connect the world,
973
00:48:32,323 --> 00:48:33,945
right, to get all that
information out.
974
00:48:34,083 --> 00:48:37,569
We want a free open Internet
for every citizen of the world.
975
00:48:38,674 --> 00:48:40,262
[somber music]
976
00:48:40,572 --> 00:48:42,885
[male]
Leaders in government
and tech want to rewrite
977
00:48:43,023 --> 00:48:44,749
a law that shapes the Internet.
978
00:48:45,612 --> 00:48:48,891
Why we're sitting here today,
it's Section 230.
979
00:48:49,512 --> 00:48:51,135
Because there's only
so much you can do.
980
00:48:51,273 --> 00:48:54,138
We filed a complaint
with the FTC
981
00:48:54,621 --> 00:48:58,694
claiming that Google
violates their own terms
of service,
982
00:48:59,005 --> 00:49:00,696
which they do,
and they don't care.
983
00:49:00,834 --> 00:49:02,905
[somber music]
984
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:05,735
There's the Communications
Decency Act,
985
00:49:05,873 --> 00:49:08,807
Section 230,
which completely protects
986
00:49:08,946 --> 00:49:11,327
the websites, the search engines
987
00:49:11,465 --> 00:49:14,882
from any responsibility
to users.
988
00:49:16,332 --> 00:49:21,544
When they talk about kind
of maximizing speech
on their platform,
989
00:49:21,682 --> 00:49:25,997
that also means maximizing
monetizable content for them.
990
00:49:26,377 --> 00:49:27,826
With Section 230,
991
00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:30,174
what it means is that
they can do that without
992
00:49:30,312 --> 00:49:33,591
any real legal responsibility
for what happens on
the platform.
993
00:49:35,731 --> 00:49:37,975
Section 230 has
two key components.
994
00:49:38,113 --> 00:49:40,667
So, one of them
is that it gives us,
995
00:49:40,805 --> 00:49:44,153
protection from liability
from content that's posted
on our platform.
996
00:49:44,291 --> 00:49:47,950
But the second is
that it enables us also
to remove content
997
00:49:48,088 --> 00:49:50,228
that could be harmful
to our community.
998
00:49:51,712 --> 00:49:54,439
But I think now,
20 plus years on,
999
00:49:54,577 --> 00:49:56,890
we have to look at 230
and say, "Look, guys,
1000
00:49:57,028 --> 00:50:00,238
230 made sense when
you thought about
1001
00:50:00,376 --> 00:50:02,551
platforms as neutral platforms."
1002
00:50:03,034 --> 00:50:06,003
[man] Listen, Operator,
it's a very private call.
1003
00:50:06,141 --> 00:50:07,866
Now, you're not going
to be listening, are you?
1004
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:10,386
[operator] Well, I won't even be
on the line. Just...
1005
00:50:10,524 --> 00:50:12,975
[man] You're going to get off
the line as soon as I get
the party, right?
1006
00:50:13,113 --> 00:50:15,115
- Right. There will be
no one on the line.
- Okay.
1007
00:50:15,702 --> 00:50:17,566
[Hany] It's like the wire on
the telephone, right?
1008
00:50:17,704 --> 00:50:19,395
I'm just creating a mechanism
for people to communicate.
1009
00:50:19,637 --> 00:50:21,121
If they're planning
to commit a crime,
1010
00:50:21,259 --> 00:50:23,123
you can't hold AT&T responsible.
1011
00:50:23,261 --> 00:50:24,814
Well, sure, that makes sense.
1012
00:50:25,505 --> 00:50:27,541
But that's not what
social media is anymore,
1013
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:30,027
and it hasn't been
for a really long time.
1014
00:50:30,441 --> 00:50:33,271
They are not a neutral arbiter
1015
00:50:33,409 --> 00:50:36,723
of the material that is
uploaded to their sites.
1016
00:50:36,861 --> 00:50:39,174
They pick and choose
the winners and the losers
1017
00:50:39,312 --> 00:50:40,934
through the recommendation
algorithms.
1018
00:50:41,762 --> 00:50:43,488
Yeah, it raises a lot
of questions like
1019
00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:46,077
is kicking someone
off Twitter censorship?
1020
00:50:48,148 --> 00:50:51,462
Are we okay with that?
Like, I think that, you know,
1021
00:50:52,152 --> 00:50:54,085
a kind of obvious
response is to say that,
1022
00:50:54,223 --> 00:50:58,641
"No, the First Amendment
protects speech, protects
from the government,
1023
00:50:58,952 --> 00:51:03,681
doesn't give corporations
an obligation to host
your content."
1024
00:51:03,819 --> 00:51:08,858
If there is no Section 230,
there is no free speech, period.
1025
00:51:08,996 --> 00:51:13,035
I think we need to be
tremendously skeptical
1026
00:51:13,346 --> 00:51:15,831
and careful in tearing this up,
1027
00:51:15,969 --> 00:51:18,489
because it is the foundation
of the Internet.
1028
00:51:19,214 --> 00:51:22,872
That said, I do think that
we can look at amending it
1029
00:51:23,114 --> 00:51:26,324
and changing it and
updating it in different ways.
1030
00:51:27,705 --> 00:51:31,226
[Carrie] They don't see us
as important, we're not
their actual customers.
1031
00:51:31,364 --> 00:51:33,366
We're just their money makers.
1032
00:51:33,504 --> 00:51:36,472
They advertise at us.
They collect our data.
1033
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,510
If there's content that
we want down
1034
00:51:39,648 --> 00:51:41,374
because we own
the copyright as an individual,
1035
00:51:41,512 --> 00:51:43,410
that is not meaningful to them.
1036
00:51:44,653 --> 00:51:47,725
This week, I got myself
a death threat.
1037
00:51:47,863 --> 00:51:50,624
This is messed up stuff
that people are saying,
1038
00:51:50,762 --> 00:51:52,937
[sobs]
Like, people telling
me to hang myself,
1039
00:51:53,075 --> 00:51:55,940
people just, like, blatantly
disrespecting the fact that
1040
00:51:56,078 --> 00:51:59,944
I'm still a human being
is not okay at all. [sobs]
1041
00:52:00,358 --> 00:52:02,291
I'm kind of simplistic in this,
1042
00:52:02,429 --> 00:52:05,536
it all goes back to us
having the right
1043
00:52:05,674 --> 00:52:07,814
to sue if we're injured.
Because most people,
1044
00:52:07,952 --> 00:52:10,817
like, most of the time
on these websites,
1045
00:52:10,955 --> 00:52:12,750
are not injured.
1046
00:52:12,888 --> 00:52:14,269
When I told him to leave me
alone and asked if he had
a knife,
1047
00:52:14,407 --> 00:52:16,063
he didn't respond. And when I...
1048
00:52:16,202 --> 00:52:18,583
[Carrie] But the rare occasion
when somebody is,
1049
00:52:18,721 --> 00:52:20,965
which on scale is
a lot of people...
1050
00:52:21,103 --> 00:52:24,348
You are an ugly, untalented,
fat [bleep] [laughs]
1051
00:52:24,934 --> 00:52:27,282
[Carrie] ...we need to be able
to hold them responsible.
1052
00:52:27,799 --> 00:52:33,391
The algorithm, it really
fostered this community
of videos that
1053
00:52:33,771 --> 00:52:37,292
people would kind of love
to watch because they loved
1054
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:38,879
to hate the thing
that was in there.
1055
00:52:39,017 --> 00:52:41,330
They'd be like, "Yeah,
that person fucking sucks."
1056
00:52:41,468 --> 00:52:44,230
And I think it's time we take
a look at what canceling
really is.
1057
00:52:44,368 --> 00:52:47,612
I am so used to reading mean
things about myself online.
1058
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:52,099
Most of you probably can't even
begin to imagine how used
to it I am.
1059
00:52:52,238 --> 00:52:54,101
[gong clangs]
1060
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,382
It was just kind of driving
this community of, like,
pent up rage.
1061
00:52:59,245 --> 00:53:02,696
[music building]
1062
00:53:05,251 --> 00:53:07,943
[somber music]
1063
00:53:12,223 --> 00:53:14,501
[music continues]
1064
00:53:15,813 --> 00:53:17,780
[man] So YouTube has
set up spaces
1065
00:53:17,918 --> 00:53:20,127
around the world where
YouTube creators can go
1066
00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:22,302
and create their own videos.
1067
00:53:23,407 --> 00:53:24,718
[Susan]
We're a video-first platform
1068
00:53:24,856 --> 00:53:27,031
and everything we do
is about video
1069
00:53:27,169 --> 00:53:30,448
enabling new content
creators to come onto
1070
00:53:30,586 --> 00:53:32,347
the platform
and to be successful.
1071
00:53:32,485 --> 00:53:35,660
And so I expect us to continue
to really focus on the video.
1072
00:53:35,798 --> 00:53:37,352
I think technology will,
of course,
1073
00:53:37,490 --> 00:53:39,526
will continue to change
how we communicate
1074
00:53:39,664 --> 00:53:41,528
and the content that we see.
1075
00:53:41,666 --> 00:53:44,669
But YouTube will stay
focused on video.
1076
00:53:45,981 --> 00:53:49,018
[mouse clicks]
1077
00:53:50,330 --> 00:53:53,230
[Anthony] They want growth.
Growth. Growth.
Everything's about growth.
1078
00:53:54,023 --> 00:53:56,198
There's so much content
on YouTube right now
1079
00:53:56,336 --> 00:53:59,028
that it's completely
overwhelming to ever seek
stuff out.
1080
00:53:59,166 --> 00:54:01,168
You're not just going into
a search bar looking for things,
1081
00:54:01,307 --> 00:54:03,999
you're clicking on what's
being presented to you.
1082
00:54:05,276 --> 00:54:07,865
So I think that YouTube is going
to have to get to a point
1083
00:54:08,003 --> 00:54:10,247
where they make people feel
safe to be on the platform.
1084
00:54:10,868 --> 00:54:13,284
But then also,
they're having to tread
1085
00:54:13,422 --> 00:54:16,736
really murky territory where
they can't be kind of, like,
1086
00:54:16,874 --> 00:54:19,670
the arbiters of truth in
the sense that they choose
1087
00:54:19,808 --> 00:54:21,672
what is to be believed.
1088
00:54:22,466 --> 00:54:24,847
[crowd cheering]
1089
00:54:27,885 --> 00:54:29,887
[crowd cheering]
1090
00:54:30,474 --> 00:54:34,443
I'm going to fight to bring us
all together as Americans.
1091
00:54:34,581 --> 00:54:36,273
We're living in
a divided country,
1092
00:54:36,411 --> 00:54:37,550
it's not going to be divided.
1093
00:54:37,688 --> 00:54:39,276
We're going to love everybody
1094
00:54:39,414 --> 00:54:41,105
like we love the people
in this room.
1095
00:54:42,313 --> 00:54:45,074
Specifically, YouTube, the
algorithm was really rewarding
1096
00:54:45,212 --> 00:54:48,526
the stuff that would get
people up in arms and feeling
1097
00:54:48,664 --> 00:54:51,564
like they had to fight
against something for a cause.
1098
00:54:52,461 --> 00:54:56,465
America was built by and for
1099
00:54:56,603 --> 00:54:59,157
the white Christian people
of this nation.
1100
00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:00,849
[crowd screaming]
1101
00:55:00,987 --> 00:55:03,748
[Anthony] And politically,
that was a huge drive.
1102
00:55:03,886 --> 00:55:06,061
I know that having what felt
1103
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:09,582
like good versus evil,
really gave people a reason
1104
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,170
to keep clicking on more
and more of those videos.
1105
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:15,726
So leading up
to the 2016 election.
1106
00:55:16,243 --> 00:55:19,143
[male reporter]
Donald Trump will be the 45th
1107
00:55:19,281 --> 00:55:21,525
President of the United States.
1108
00:55:21,663 --> 00:55:23,527
[man] We have to get better
at listening to each other,
1109
00:55:23,665 --> 00:55:26,771
and challenging each other
constructively and generously.
1110
00:55:26,909 --> 00:55:28,601
But I worry that the very
architecture
1111
00:55:28,739 --> 00:55:31,189
of the social Internet might
make that impossible.
1112
00:55:32,156 --> 00:55:33,916
[male reporter] In the week or
so since the election,
1113
00:55:34,054 --> 00:55:37,057
there has been mounting
criticism of whether web giants
1114
00:55:37,195 --> 00:55:40,820
like Facebook and Google
used enough discretion
1115
00:55:40,958 --> 00:55:44,824
and editorial responsibility in
screening out fake news sites.
1116
00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:48,517
Comet pizza. Here we go.
1117
00:55:48,655 --> 00:55:50,726
[male reporter]
According to police,
1118
00:55:50,864 --> 00:55:53,453
Welch said that he had read
online that the Comet Ping
Pong restaurant
1119
00:55:53,591 --> 00:55:55,179
was harboring child sex slaves.
1120
00:55:55,317 --> 00:56:00,909
Tell me why this pizza place
isn't even open at noon.
1121
00:56:01,047 --> 00:56:03,152
[gentle music]
1122
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:05,845
[male reporter] DC police say
Welch fired at least one round
1123
00:56:05,983 --> 00:56:09,918
into the restaurant floor
with an AR-15 rifle
like this one.
1124
00:56:10,643 --> 00:56:13,577
[emotional music]
1125
00:56:14,301 --> 00:56:16,752
[music continues]
1126
00:56:17,753 --> 00:56:19,237
[Dave Lauer] There must not be
a tipping point
1127
00:56:19,376 --> 00:56:22,102
because there is no doubt
that YouTube bore
1128
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:26,866
a huge responsibility
for the spread of misinformation
in 2016.
1129
00:56:27,004 --> 00:56:30,007
[Paul Joseph Watson] One expert
told me that Hillary has
1130
00:56:30,145 --> 00:56:33,873
high functioning autism
with attendant sociopathy.
1131
00:56:34,011 --> 00:56:35,495
[crowd screaming]
1132
00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:39,050
[Dave] Now we're in the sort
of misinformation apocalypse.
1133
00:56:39,775 --> 00:56:43,089
[chanting angrily]
1134
00:56:44,815 --> 00:56:46,541
I think there's blame
on both sides.
1135
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:48,094
[crowd yelling]
1136
00:56:48,232 --> 00:56:50,924
What started off
as this niche field
1137
00:56:51,062 --> 00:56:54,134
in the burgeoning digital
revolution, turned into the,
1138
00:56:54,272 --> 00:56:59,864
"Crap, everything I read, see,
hear online is now suspect."
1139
00:57:00,002 --> 00:57:01,728
Everything we're seeing
in the news right now
1140
00:57:01,866 --> 00:57:04,559
is just insane,
fake news garbage.
1141
00:57:04,697 --> 00:57:06,768
If the Proud Boys are left alone
1142
00:57:06,906 --> 00:57:08,528
to do their thing,
they wave little American flags,
1143
00:57:08,666 --> 00:57:11,048
and then go to the bar to have
a drink, and nothing happens.
1144
00:57:11,186 --> 00:57:13,809
-You are fake news. Go ahead.
-[Reporter] Sir, can you...
1145
00:57:13,947 --> 00:57:16,018
[Brianna]
There were people at YouTube
1146
00:57:16,156 --> 00:57:20,057
that were aware that
the tools that they built
were being misused.
1147
00:57:20,747 --> 00:57:23,232
So they started to put together
1148
00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:25,649
basically task forces,
1149
00:57:26,546 --> 00:57:29,411
looking at the problem,
talking to women like me,
1150
00:57:29,549 --> 00:57:32,759
getting our experiences
and doing what Google does,
1151
00:57:32,897 --> 00:57:36,591
which is talking to experts
and trying to come up
with concrete,
1152
00:57:36,729 --> 00:57:41,112
realistic things they can
implement to solve the problem.
1153
00:57:42,286 --> 00:57:44,875
Unfortunately,
despite participating
1154
00:57:45,013 --> 00:57:46,980
in three of these task forces,
1155
00:57:47,118 --> 00:57:49,466
none of them were
successful in getting
1156
00:57:49,604 --> 00:57:51,502
Google to change their policy.
1157
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:54,194
My name's Anthony Padilla,
1158
00:57:54,332 --> 00:57:56,403
and today I'll be spending
a day with Susan Wojcicki,
1159
00:57:56,542 --> 00:57:58,060
the CEO of YouTube,
1160
00:57:58,198 --> 00:58:00,269
who began as one of
Google's first employees.
1161
00:58:00,407 --> 00:58:02,582
If there's anyone in
the comments right now angrily
1162
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,274
claiming that you, Susan,
are the key reason
1163
00:58:05,412 --> 00:58:07,345
that YouTube isn't the way
they wish it were,
1164
00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:09,140
what would you say to them?
1165
00:58:09,278 --> 00:58:11,902
It's much more complicated.
[laughs]
It's not just me.
1166
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,248
You're not going
to blame someone else?
1167
00:58:13,386 --> 00:58:14,836
[both laugh]
1168
00:58:14,974 --> 00:58:16,872
I'll take ultimately
responsibility for everything.
1169
00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:18,978
But it has to do with the fact
1170
00:58:19,116 --> 00:58:22,499
that these issues are
much more complex
than people understand,
1171
00:58:22,637 --> 00:58:24,708
that maybe the changes
that we implemented,
1172
00:58:24,846 --> 00:58:27,849
for example, are due
to regulation or
they're due because
1173
00:58:27,987 --> 00:58:30,472
these changes we've done
will enable more advertisers
1174
00:58:30,610 --> 00:58:32,439
to come and spend more revenue
1175
00:58:32,578 --> 00:58:34,545
with YouTube creators.
1176
00:58:34,683 --> 00:58:36,720
I haven't been there for
1177
00:58:37,583 --> 00:58:39,170
close to a decade now.
1178
00:58:39,377 --> 00:58:42,139
But I still think that
the decisions that
1179
00:58:42,277 --> 00:58:46,384
they make are often prioritized
by what the end user wants,
1180
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:49,560
not necessarily by,
you know, quarterly earnings,
1181
00:58:49,698 --> 00:58:52,563
or quarterly,
financial side of things.
1182
00:58:53,426 --> 00:58:56,463
If they wanted to,
there's a lot of opportunity
1183
00:58:56,602 --> 00:58:58,155
to be able to monetize,
1184
00:58:58,293 --> 00:59:01,572
but it would be at the cost
of the end user experience.
1185
00:59:05,058 --> 00:59:08,027
They are obligated to maximize
shareholder value.
1186
00:59:08,303 --> 00:59:10,374
If they don't do that,
they are exposed
1187
00:59:10,512 --> 00:59:11,789
to liability and lawsuits.
1188
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:14,309
When that's your incentive
1189
00:59:14,447 --> 00:59:17,830
and you don't have liability
for the content on your system,
1190
00:59:18,209 --> 00:59:20,729
it leads to some very
perverse incentives,
1191
00:59:20,867 --> 00:59:24,077
such as building machine
learning systems
1192
00:59:24,215 --> 00:59:26,493
and algorithms that attempt
1193
00:59:26,632 --> 00:59:30,670
to capture people's attention,
addict them to content
1194
00:59:30,808 --> 00:59:32,292
and keep them on your site,
1195
00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:34,778
so that you can show them
more advertising,
1196
00:59:34,916 --> 00:59:36,642
because that's how
you make your money.
1197
00:59:37,953 --> 00:59:40,128
Well, I would just disagree
with that point of view.
1198
00:59:40,266 --> 00:59:42,130
And the reason
I would is because
1199
00:59:42,268 --> 00:59:46,134
when there is any kind
of harmful misinformation,
1200
00:59:46,272 --> 00:59:48,343
that is bad for us
and bad for our business
1201
00:59:48,481 --> 00:59:51,380
and bad for us financially
and doesn't work
with our business model.
1202
00:59:51,518 --> 00:59:54,211
We are an advertising
supported platform,
1203
00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:57,766
so no advertiser
is going to want
to be on that type of content.
1204
00:59:58,353 --> 01:00:00,769
And we have seen advertisers
pull back their spend
1205
01:00:01,045 --> 01:00:03,738
when they see that we're not
managing our platform
1206
01:00:03,876 --> 01:00:06,223
to keep our users
and community safe.
1207
01:00:06,361 --> 01:00:10,020
That reason, along with
wanting to be on the right
side of history,
1208
01:00:10,158 --> 01:00:11,711
wanting to do the right
thing from a brand,
1209
01:00:11,849 --> 01:00:13,886
from a PR,
from our employee standpoint,
1210
01:00:14,024 --> 01:00:16,785
from just thinking about
what's the right thing to do
1211
01:00:16,923 --> 01:00:18,787
for our users
in our communities.
1212
01:00:19,512 --> 01:00:22,239
[upbeat music]
1213
01:00:24,379 --> 01:00:27,382
[applause]
1214
01:00:28,659 --> 01:00:30,419
[Robert Kyncl]
Digital video is exploding.
1215
01:00:30,868 --> 01:00:32,905
Already the youngest
millennials are watching
1216
01:00:33,043 --> 01:00:35,528
more digital video than TV.
1217
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,394
And in fact,
it has overtaken social media
1218
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:41,879
as the top online activity.
1219
01:00:42,466 --> 01:00:45,020
If you were to ask
college students,
1220
01:00:45,158 --> 01:00:47,678
"What do you wanna bring
when you have a small dormitory?
1221
01:00:47,816 --> 01:00:50,301
Do you want to bring
a sort of a laptop
1222
01:00:50,716 --> 01:00:51,993
that you can watch YouTube,
1223
01:00:52,131 --> 01:00:55,030
or do you want
to bring a plasma TV?"
1224
01:00:55,617 --> 01:00:58,137
It's always going
to be the laptop
1225
01:00:58,275 --> 01:01:00,691
with how many things
that you can do with it.
1226
01:01:01,761 --> 01:01:03,936
[calm music]
1227
01:01:07,387 --> 01:01:09,838
[waves crashing]
1228
01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:14,947
[Ryan Kaji] It started
when I was three.
1229
01:01:15,085 --> 01:01:17,121
I was seeing a lot
of other people on YouTube
1230
01:01:17,259 --> 01:01:19,158
and I wanted to be
on YouTube too.
1231
01:01:19,296 --> 01:01:20,918
[kids yelling]
1232
01:01:21,056 --> 01:01:24,197
So I asked my mom
and she said yes.
1233
01:01:24,335 --> 01:01:26,959
[Loan Kaji] Okay, Ryan,
are you ready to find
the egg surprise?
1234
01:01:27,097 --> 01:01:28,685
Ready? Go, go, go.
1235
01:01:29,168 --> 01:01:30,721
[Jared Reed]
This kid, Ryan, who's on the top
1236
01:01:30,859 --> 01:01:35,277
of the Forbes list, he earned
$22 million this year.
1237
01:01:35,761 --> 01:01:38,004
-[Loan] Whoa!
-Whoa.
1238
01:01:38,142 --> 01:01:41,559
[reporter] He has
more than 12 billion views
on his YouTube page.
1239
01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:43,320
If you have children,
you know him.
1240
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:45,356
-[Loan] Ryan?
-What?
1241
01:01:45,494 --> 01:01:47,117
-I have a surprise for you.
-What?
1242
01:01:47,324 --> 01:01:49,809
-Look, look over here.
-Whoa!
1243
01:01:50,465 --> 01:01:52,605
[Loan] And you don't need much
to get started on YouTube.
1244
01:01:52,743 --> 01:01:55,953
I started filming
with just my phone.
1245
01:01:56,091 --> 01:01:57,610
-Hi Ryan!
-Hi Mommy.
1246
01:01:57,990 --> 01:02:00,026
And I still use it to this day.
1247
01:02:00,268 --> 01:02:03,340
And, you know, when I started
to do more research,
1248
01:02:03,754 --> 01:02:06,688
I didn't even know, like,
what is a green screen
1249
01:02:06,826 --> 01:02:08,000
when I started doing research.
1250
01:02:08,138 --> 01:02:09,898
We couldn't afford
a green screen.
1251
01:02:11,348 --> 01:02:15,179
We just happened to have
a tablecloth that was green.
1252
01:02:15,628 --> 01:02:17,975
And we're like, "Hey,
we can make this work."
1253
01:02:18,113 --> 01:02:20,046
And that's what we use.
1254
01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:23,360
[Shion Kaji]
Definitely after four months,
we started the channel,
1255
01:02:23,498 --> 01:02:25,845
we started seeing the tipping
point in the viewership.
1256
01:02:25,983 --> 01:02:28,606
We started seeing views from,
1257
01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:31,886
India, East Asia,
all around the world.
1258
01:02:32,024 --> 01:02:33,577
Okay, guys, let's open up
1259
01:02:33,715 --> 01:02:36,269
the Ryan's World
World Tour Globe.
1260
01:02:37,374 --> 01:02:39,652
[Shion] Around the same time,
we started our own channel
1261
01:02:39,790 --> 01:02:41,930
and I think that timing
really matched so well.
1262
01:02:42,206 --> 01:02:44,450
Which one? Which one?
The purple one?
1263
01:02:46,210 --> 01:02:48,523
Are you sure you can do this?
Oh, good job!
1264
01:02:48,661 --> 01:02:50,525
[Loan] The most important
thing we tried
1265
01:02:50,663 --> 01:02:53,148
is just to make sure that he
still has time being a kid.
1266
01:02:53,286 --> 01:02:56,565
And make sure
that even though yes,
1267
01:02:56,703 --> 01:02:59,465
he's well known
around the world,
1268
01:02:59,845 --> 01:03:03,158
to me personally, I don't think
he notices it that much
1269
01:03:03,296 --> 01:03:06,713
because, again, we really try
to keep him grounded
1270
01:03:06,852 --> 01:03:09,751
and really try
to make sure that YouTube
1271
01:03:09,889 --> 01:03:12,858
is not the essential part
of who he is.
1272
01:03:12,996 --> 01:03:15,308
[all yelling]
1273
01:03:15,446 --> 01:03:17,414
[child giggling]
1274
01:03:17,552 --> 01:03:19,623
[whimsical music]
1275
01:03:20,589 --> 01:03:23,730
There was this offering
that YouTube
had called YouTube Kids,
1276
01:03:23,869 --> 01:03:27,700
and in 2017 it had 11
million weekly viewers,
1277
01:03:27,838 --> 01:03:29,184
which is just a huge number.
1278
01:03:30,496 --> 01:03:32,360
Wow!
1279
01:03:33,568 --> 01:03:36,433
[Dave] Now, it was really maybe
a couple years later
1280
01:03:36,571 --> 01:03:39,850
that it came out
that there was this effort
1281
01:03:39,988 --> 01:03:45,200
by content producers to use
YouTube and YouTube Kids
1282
01:03:45,338 --> 01:03:49,204
to basically
generate content that would
1283
01:03:49,342 --> 01:03:52,518
leverage what they knew
about the algorithm
1284
01:03:52,863 --> 01:03:55,555
so that it would be
recommended to children.
1285
01:04:00,146 --> 01:04:02,183
There were videos
that were frightening
1286
01:04:02,321 --> 01:04:04,392
and traumatizing children,
that depicted abuse.
1287
01:04:04,530 --> 01:04:06,877
They were hijacking
Disney characters
1288
01:04:07,015 --> 01:04:10,294
orPaw Patrol and showing
them being stabbed
1289
01:04:10,432 --> 01:04:14,747
or hit by cars or killed
or committing suicide.
1290
01:04:14,885 --> 01:04:19,441
And all of these videos
were being promoted to children.
1291
01:04:21,443 --> 01:04:26,034
So it was really a disturbing
phenomenon and really just goes
1292
01:04:26,172 --> 01:04:31,937
to show how dangerous this
kind of technology can be.
1293
01:04:32,385 --> 01:04:34,663
It really gets into this idea
1294
01:04:34,801 --> 01:04:37,804
that when you codify
something like that
into a recommendation algorithm,
1295
01:04:38,184 --> 01:04:39,945
results end up being dominated
1296
01:04:40,083 --> 01:04:42,844
by particular behaviors and
especially those behaviors
1297
01:04:43,327 --> 01:04:45,088
that make YouTube
the most money.
1298
01:04:46,399 --> 01:04:47,607
[Shion]
I guess the biggest challenge
1299
01:04:47,745 --> 01:04:50,645
of the parents
and of the producers too,
1300
01:04:50,783 --> 01:04:53,027
is the kids influencer business
1301
01:04:53,165 --> 01:04:55,650
is still untouched territory.
1302
01:04:55,788 --> 01:04:57,272
It's still very new.
1303
01:04:57,548 --> 01:05:00,551
You know, the regulation
is still not 100% perfect.
1304
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,450
There are many things
that we have to figure out
1305
01:05:02,588 --> 01:05:04,141
as we go and then make sure
1306
01:05:04,279 --> 01:05:06,040
it's a safe place for kids.
1307
01:05:06,972 --> 01:05:09,112
[Dave] There was this
weird thing where, like,
1308
01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:14,324
this scary character was just
popping up in kids' videos.
1309
01:05:15,808 --> 01:05:17,948
A terrifying video that
targets your kids.
1310
01:05:18,086 --> 01:05:21,918
The online challenge encouraging
children to kill themselves.
1311
01:05:22,849 --> 01:05:25,404
[Dave] You know, that was
something that happened
after YouTube
1312
01:05:25,542 --> 01:05:28,476
had supposedly gone in
and fixed the problem.
1313
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,617
When we talk about the YouTube
1314
01:05:31,755 --> 01:05:33,895
recommendation algorithm,
that's just a great example
1315
01:05:34,033 --> 01:05:37,934
of something where
the focus on fixing a system
1316
01:05:38,072 --> 01:05:39,866
for recommending content,
1317
01:05:40,005 --> 01:05:41,661
if we can just figure out
1318
01:05:41,799 --> 01:05:44,837
that right piece of technology,
everything will get fixed.
1319
01:05:44,975 --> 01:05:48,116
And that's a very Silicon Valley
way of approaching things.
1320
01:05:48,254 --> 01:05:49,842
And I don't think
it's the right one
1321
01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:52,638
because these
are not technology problems.
1322
01:05:52,776 --> 01:05:55,744
These are far broader problems.
1323
01:05:58,264 --> 01:06:00,853
Even putting up a stoplight
at an intersection,
1324
01:06:00,991 --> 01:06:02,751
It only gets made
when there's like
1325
01:06:02,889 --> 01:06:05,271
a certain amount
of deaths or something
or enough people complain
1326
01:06:05,409 --> 01:06:08,861
and people are only complaining
when there's
a reason to complain.
1327
01:06:09,103 --> 01:06:10,932
And it's kind of like that here.
I don't,
1328
01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:12,451
It's kind of dangerous
1329
01:06:12,589 --> 01:06:14,625
how we are just waiting
for there to be enough
1330
01:06:14,763 --> 01:06:18,975
of these digital car crashes
in this digital intersection
1331
01:06:19,113 --> 01:06:20,528
with no stoplight.
1332
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,534
[slow music playing]
1333
01:06:35,543 --> 01:06:37,303
[sirens blaring]
1334
01:06:37,441 --> 01:06:39,754
[reporter] Injured people
are rushed to hospital.
1335
01:06:39,892 --> 01:06:43,206
They were gunned down during
Friday prayers at Al Noor Mosque
1336
01:06:43,344 --> 01:06:45,380
in the center of Christchurch.
1337
01:06:45,518 --> 01:06:48,521
[reporter 2]
Police confirm the gunman
was livestreaming the killings
1338
01:06:48,659 --> 01:06:50,730
at one mosque on social media.
1339
01:06:50,868 --> 01:06:53,181
[woman]
It was the most devastating...
1340
01:06:53,319 --> 01:06:56,874
[singing "Imagine"]
1341
01:06:57,220 --> 01:06:59,084
In December of 2020,
1342
01:06:59,567 --> 01:07:04,054
the New Zealand government
released the results
of this research
1343
01:07:04,192 --> 01:07:09,577
that they had done
into the shooter
and his radicalization process,
1344
01:07:09,715 --> 01:07:14,168
and they found that he
had donated money
1345
01:07:14,306 --> 01:07:16,860
to a series of YouTubers.
1346
01:07:16,998 --> 01:07:21,347
He basically spoke about
being radicalized on YouTube.
1347
01:07:21,485 --> 01:07:23,970
It wasn't in these,
we like to talk about
1348
01:07:24,109 --> 01:07:26,525
the deep,
dark corners of the Internet.
1349
01:07:27,905 --> 01:07:30,425
You know, it conjures
up these scary images
1350
01:07:30,563 --> 01:07:32,979
of the dark web
and all of these things.
1351
01:07:33,118 --> 01:07:34,947
But this was actually
right out in the open,
1352
01:07:35,085 --> 01:07:37,018
you know, right on YouTube
1353
01:07:37,156 --> 01:07:38,882
is where he got radicalized.
1354
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:45,199
We bring our ideas to you.
Our ideas have power.
1355
01:07:45,337 --> 01:07:47,753
Our time has come.
1356
01:07:47,891 --> 01:07:50,652
There is nothing that
can stop an idea
1357
01:07:50,790 --> 01:07:51,998
whose time has come.
1358
01:07:52,137 --> 01:07:53,862
And that time is now.
1359
01:07:54,242 --> 01:07:56,589
[applause]
1360
01:07:56,727 --> 01:08:00,559
[slow music]
1361
01:08:02,112 --> 01:08:05,253
[Caleb] That shooting,
it really disturbed me.
1362
01:08:05,391 --> 01:08:07,152
And I, you know,
1363
01:08:07,290 --> 01:08:10,258
I realized in that moment that
this ideology would literally
1364
01:08:10,396 --> 01:08:13,089
kill my friends, you know?
1365
01:08:14,504 --> 01:08:16,402
And so, yeah,
I had to make a change.
1366
01:08:19,060 --> 01:08:21,545
I had two individuals message me
and they said,
1367
01:08:22,132 --> 01:08:24,617
"Hi, I'm not going
to tell you who I am,
1368
01:08:24,755 --> 01:08:27,689
but I'm inside
all the far right chats
1369
01:08:27,827 --> 01:08:30,244
and they're pissed off at you
1370
01:08:30,382 --> 01:08:31,762
and they've got your address."
1371
01:08:31,900 --> 01:08:33,764
And then he posted my
address and I was like,
1372
01:08:33,902 --> 01:08:35,525
"Why are you
telling me all this?"
1373
01:08:35,663 --> 01:08:39,218
And he said, "Because, man,
you're a fucking cuck.
1374
01:08:39,356 --> 01:08:40,875
But what they're saying,
1375
01:08:41,013 --> 01:08:43,395
what they're talking about
doing to you is fucked up."
1376
01:08:45,259 --> 01:08:47,916
I think what YouTube
needs to do is they need
to have very clear terms
1377
01:08:48,054 --> 01:08:50,954
of service on their websites
of what's acceptable
and what isn't.
1378
01:08:51,437 --> 01:08:52,990
You know,
I am a free speech advocate,
1379
01:08:53,129 --> 01:08:56,373
but what I saw on the
platform was people
1380
01:08:56,511 --> 01:08:58,168
taking advantage
of this algorithm.
1381
01:08:58,306 --> 01:09:00,688
And the algorithm does not care
about what your politics are.
1382
01:09:00,964 --> 01:09:03,794
It cares about watch time
and keeping you on platform.
1383
01:09:03,932 --> 01:09:05,727
And I think I left it
the same way I went in it,
1384
01:09:05,865 --> 01:09:08,178
is that I'm curious and I was
always looking for,
1385
01:09:08,316 --> 01:09:10,284
the world's
really, really screwed up
1386
01:09:10,422 --> 01:09:13,459
and how can I help
make it a little bit better?
1387
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,635
And so that was always
the motivation going in
1388
01:09:16,773 --> 01:09:19,638
and that
was the motivation coming out.
1389
01:09:20,639 --> 01:09:22,123
[Destiny]
Basically what you want to do
1390
01:09:22,261 --> 01:09:23,711
is you want to find
somebody that feels like
1391
01:09:23,849 --> 01:09:25,333
they're fucked in some way.
1392
01:09:25,471 --> 01:09:27,163
"Make America Great Again,"
right?
1393
01:09:27,301 --> 01:09:28,923
You want to find somebody
that feels like they're fucked
1394
01:09:29,061 --> 01:09:30,304
in some way
and you want to speak to that.
1395
01:09:30,442 --> 01:09:32,029
And when you hone in on that,
1396
01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:35,205
you can bring a person onto
your side to believe anything
1397
01:09:35,343 --> 01:09:36,965
that you want them to believe.
1398
01:09:37,103 --> 01:09:38,760
[Caleb] And once I found,
you know, content debating
1399
01:09:38,898 --> 01:09:41,832
with these alt-right figures,
found Destiny,
1400
01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:43,972
later on I would
find ContraPoints.
1401
01:09:44,490 --> 01:09:47,113
Hi. In this video
I'm going to talk about
1402
01:09:47,252 --> 01:09:49,564
how to recognize
a fascist.
1403
01:09:51,256 --> 01:09:53,050
[Caleb] Yeah, I got obsessed
with learning about that,
1404
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:56,640
because how are these people
disproving all my gurus,
1405
01:09:56,778 --> 01:09:59,229
you know, disproving all these
people who are supposed to be
1406
01:09:59,367 --> 01:10:02,232
my warriors
that are out there fighting
to save my civilization?
1407
01:10:02,370 --> 01:10:06,029
How are they getting slayed
on the rhetorical battlefield
1408
01:10:06,167 --> 01:10:08,169
by a transgender woman?
1409
01:10:08,307 --> 01:10:11,552
The strategic fascist knows it's
better to start with realistic,
1410
01:10:11,690 --> 01:10:14,451
achievable goals,
and that means focusing first
1411
01:10:14,589 --> 01:10:16,453
on stopping non-white
immigration,
1412
01:10:16,591 --> 01:10:18,800
something they'll try
to get you, the centrist,
1413
01:10:18,938 --> 01:10:22,804
conservative or liberal,
on board with
by emphasizing the danger
1414
01:10:22,942 --> 01:10:26,222
and criminality of non-white
immigrants and refugees.
1415
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,016
I always viewed
the channel as a kind of
1416
01:10:28,154 --> 01:10:31,296
attempted intervention
that didn't assume that,
1417
01:10:31,434 --> 01:10:33,746
I never assumed that YouTube
was going to step in
and save us.
1418
01:10:33,884 --> 01:10:36,370
I never assumed
that these people
were going to be banned.
1419
01:10:36,508 --> 01:10:37,923
The question was,
1420
01:10:39,131 --> 01:10:41,064
is there some part of this
audience that can be kind of
1421
01:10:42,134 --> 01:10:47,588
pulled away from the edge
of this extremism, basically?
1422
01:10:48,934 --> 01:10:52,489
I started to meet people,
trans people, Muslim people,
1423
01:10:52,627 --> 01:10:54,146
gay people, all these people.
1424
01:10:54,284 --> 01:10:56,044
And it's not just I met them
and now I'm like,
1425
01:10:56,182 --> 01:10:58,357
"Oh, I feel comfortable
around you,
1426
01:10:58,495 --> 01:11:01,740
because I was never,
I never had a
strict phobia of any individual.
1427
01:11:02,741 --> 01:11:05,157
But what I, when I
would speak to them,
1428
01:11:05,295 --> 01:11:07,228
I would get to hear their
experience and I would actually
1429
01:11:07,366 --> 01:11:09,057
listen to their perspective
and I would ask them
1430
01:11:09,195 --> 01:11:10,507
challenging questions.
1431
01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:12,302
If there's anything
you guys can teach me,
1432
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:14,028
if there's anything
I can teach you,
let's correspond,
1433
01:11:14,166 --> 01:11:16,272
let's get together,
and let's figure this thing out,
1434
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:20,206
because it's a problem I believe
that we can figure out.
1435
01:11:20,448 --> 01:11:23,313
They do it like Tyler Durden
does inFight Club.
1436
01:11:25,902 --> 01:11:27,869
They take you through your
existential moment
1437
01:11:28,007 --> 01:11:30,424
and destroy your old identity,
which is your false identity
1438
01:11:30,562 --> 01:11:31,873
that your masters gave to you.
1439
01:11:32,011 --> 01:11:33,461
Just let go!
1440
01:11:33,599 --> 01:11:35,118
[Caleb] And then they give you
a new false identity,
1441
01:11:35,256 --> 01:11:36,913
which you are now
beholden to them.
1442
01:11:37,051 --> 01:11:38,915
Without pain, without sacrifice,
you would have nothing.
1443
01:11:39,053 --> 01:11:41,642
[Caleb]
And so now you just
run down the pike.
1444
01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:44,092
That's what's kind
of going on here.
1445
01:11:46,612 --> 01:11:48,580
And of course,
the trick is they lie to you
1446
01:11:48,718 --> 01:11:49,719
about a bunch of stuff, too.
1447
01:11:49,857 --> 01:11:51,445
They reframe the truth.
1448
01:11:51,583 --> 01:11:53,309
[man] There's been an awakening.
1449
01:11:53,447 --> 01:11:55,000
Have you felt it?
1450
01:11:55,138 --> 01:11:56,829
[male 2] Have you ever wondered
why we go to war?
1451
01:11:56,967 --> 01:11:59,625
Or why you never seem to be able
to get out of debt?
1452
01:11:59,763 --> 01:12:02,421
Why there is poverty,
division and crime.
1453
01:12:02,628 --> 01:12:04,975
What if I told you there
was a reason for it all?
1454
01:12:05,321 --> 01:12:07,737
What if I told you it
was done on purpose?
1455
01:12:08,185 --> 01:12:11,016
What if I told you that those
who were corrupting the world,
1456
01:12:11,154 --> 01:12:14,813
poisoning our food and igniting
conflict were themselves
1457
01:12:14,951 --> 01:12:17,609
about to be permanently
eradicated from the Earth?
1458
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,890
[birds chirping]
1459
01:12:25,064 --> 01:12:29,897
[Tyler] My mom started prepping
for World War 3, apocalypse,
you name it.
1460
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:32,451
If you can imagine
like a person just prepping
1461
01:12:32,589 --> 01:12:36,455
for a natural disaster as such,
she would go
ten times beyond that.
1462
01:12:37,249 --> 01:12:40,356
She started arming herself
with weapons, guns.
1463
01:12:40,494 --> 01:12:44,118
But she just started wearing
the weapon around the house.
1464
01:12:45,706 --> 01:12:47,052
[door thuds]
1465
01:12:49,675 --> 01:12:51,228
-[Alex Winter] Hey, Tyler.
-Hello.
1466
01:12:51,574 --> 01:12:53,023
You can just tell us a bit about
1467
01:12:53,161 --> 01:12:54,922
when you first started
experiencing the changes
1468
01:12:55,060 --> 01:12:56,406
that were happening at home.
1469
01:12:57,511 --> 01:12:59,616
It was, conspiracy theories
to me have always been
1470
01:12:59,754 --> 01:13:01,549
just part of the social
media platforms.
1471
01:13:01,687 --> 01:13:05,864
Since, you could say
the dawn of time
from the digital age and such.
1472
01:13:06,796 --> 01:13:09,005
Once it started approaching
closer and closer
1473
01:13:09,143 --> 01:13:10,662
to the elections itself,
1474
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,112
the conspiracy theories
started becoming more
1475
01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:17,841
and more wild from things like
microchips and the vaccination.
1476
01:13:17,979 --> 01:13:20,292
China having
troops at the borders.
1477
01:13:21,155 --> 01:13:25,573
Trump is basically fighting
against the cabal or such.
1478
01:13:26,436 --> 01:13:28,473
[ominous music]
1479
01:13:28,611 --> 01:13:32,960
She said that QAnon were two
separate entities
named Q and Anon,
1480
01:13:33,098 --> 01:13:35,480
run by two quantum computers.
1481
01:13:35,963 --> 01:13:37,551
That they weren't even people,
1482
01:13:37,689 --> 01:13:40,346
they were AIs that
helped recruit Trump
1483
01:13:40,485 --> 01:13:41,762
to fight the good fight.
1484
01:13:42,314 --> 01:13:43,798
From there, it just started
1485
01:13:43,936 --> 01:13:46,629
getting even worse because
now she started preaching
1486
01:13:46,767 --> 01:13:48,734
these conspiracy theories
like they're the Bible
1487
01:13:48,872 --> 01:13:51,496
and started getting in my face
about it all the time.
1488
01:13:52,117 --> 01:13:54,740
I couldn't say no.
I couldn't say yes.
1489
01:13:54,878 --> 01:13:57,225
Either one would
trigger a confrontation
1490
01:13:57,363 --> 01:13:59,296
between herself and me.
1491
01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:02,265
And especially
since I didn't hold
the same beliefs as she did.
1492
01:14:02,403 --> 01:14:06,442
She said things like, "Oh,
I'm just trying to protect you."
1493
01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:09,548
And I'm like, "Yes, from what?
1494
01:14:09,997 --> 01:14:12,309
The neighbors are not
going to harm us.
1495
01:14:12,448 --> 01:14:14,450
I'm afraid sometimes
1496
01:14:14,588 --> 01:14:16,728
that you're going to go
out there and start killing
people or something."
1497
01:14:17,245 --> 01:14:19,040
She took offense to that
and eventually
1498
01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:22,734
it devolved to, the argument
devolved into me saying,
1499
01:14:22,872 --> 01:14:25,668
"I'm done.
I don't need you anymore."
1500
01:14:25,875 --> 01:14:27,980
And from there I just
called up some friends
1501
01:14:28,118 --> 01:14:30,155
and left on
just whatever I can grab.
1502
01:14:36,713 --> 01:14:38,266
[reporter]
The World Health Organization
1503
01:14:38,404 --> 01:14:41,338
has now confirmed
the coronavirus is a pandemic.
1504
01:14:42,478 --> 01:14:44,825
[reporter 2] A quarter
of the world's population
1505
01:14:44,963 --> 01:14:47,621
is now living under
some form of lockdown
1506
01:14:47,759 --> 01:14:49,761
due to coronavirus.
1507
01:14:49,899 --> 01:14:53,661
[Donald Trump]
Now the Democrats are
politicizing the coronavirus.
1508
01:14:53,799 --> 01:14:55,283
Let's raise the, raise the bed.
1509
01:14:55,663 --> 01:14:57,838
[doctors]
1510
01:14:57,976 --> 01:14:59,840
And this is their new hoax.
1511
01:15:00,565 --> 01:15:03,291
The coronavirus pandemic
was the perfect storm
1512
01:15:03,429 --> 01:15:05,570
for radicalizing people.
1513
01:15:05,708 --> 01:15:09,746
There is no evidence that I can
see that a pandemic exists.
1514
01:15:09,884 --> 01:15:12,508
[Robert Lewis]
I don't personally know anybody
that's had it.
1515
01:15:12,646 --> 01:15:15,994
I don't know anybody that knows
anybody that's had it.
1516
01:15:16,132 --> 01:15:17,858
So you either wear the mask...
1517
01:15:17,996 --> 01:15:20,343
And I'm not doing it because
I woke up in a free country.
1518
01:15:21,068 --> 01:15:23,277
[Talia]
It created a lot of isolation.
1519
01:15:23,415 --> 01:15:26,142
It gave people a lot more time
to be on their computers.
1520
01:15:26,591 --> 01:15:29,110
You cannot
make people wear a mask.
It's not our laws at all.
1521
01:15:29,248 --> 01:15:31,768
This is just made up
by Bill Gates and them.
1522
01:15:31,906 --> 01:15:33,908
Go online and look it up.
1523
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:38,085
[Talia] You know,
there were these
massive social disruptions,
1524
01:15:38,223 --> 01:15:41,260
like over the nature
of the fabric of reality.
1525
01:15:41,398 --> 01:15:43,539
-[woman] Are you laying 5G?
-Yeah.
1526
01:15:43,849 --> 01:15:45,402
[woman] You know,
when they turn this on,
it's going to kill everyone.
1527
01:15:45,541 --> 01:15:47,197
And that's why they're building
the hospitals.
1528
01:15:47,335 --> 01:15:49,786
[crowd chanting]
1529
01:15:49,924 --> 01:15:54,757
[Talia] In person, the reopen
rallies like were attended by
militias and white nationalists.
1530
01:15:54,895 --> 01:15:57,863
Texans know this is a Chi-Com
1531
01:15:58,001 --> 01:16:04,076
globalist bio weapon
meant to shut down our economy.
1532
01:16:05,008 --> 01:16:06,320
[Talia] The same was true
on the Internet,
1533
01:16:06,458 --> 01:16:08,460
that the people pushing
reopen content
1534
01:16:08,598 --> 01:16:11,912
or talking about COVID
restrictions as state tyranny.
1535
01:16:12,050 --> 01:16:14,224
We're talking about
the COVID lockdown.
1536
01:16:14,362 --> 01:16:16,675
What we're really talking about
is the great reset.
1537
01:16:17,158 --> 01:16:18,815
Everything that you're
seeing right now
1538
01:16:18,953 --> 01:16:21,715
is a giant political conspiracy.
1539
01:16:21,853 --> 01:16:23,406
[machine beeping]
1540
01:16:23,993 --> 01:16:25,132
We're going to do
everything we can.
1541
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:27,134
That's what
I can promise you, okay?
1542
01:16:28,342 --> 01:16:29,895
[Anthony]
When you meet someone that says,
1543
01:16:30,033 --> 01:16:31,552
"Oh, I'm somewhere
in the middle,"
1544
01:16:31,690 --> 01:16:34,072
which I feel like what
many people were at some point,
1545
01:16:34,210 --> 01:16:35,970
now it's like,
"Oh, you're in the middle,
1546
01:16:36,108 --> 01:16:37,454
then you're against me,
fuck you."
1547
01:16:38,663 --> 01:16:40,596
And the algorithm
really plays into that.
1548
01:16:40,734 --> 01:16:44,185
[yelling]
1549
01:16:45,117 --> 01:16:48,086
Before we get to the topic
at hand, which is COVID-19,
1550
01:16:48,224 --> 01:16:51,330
we have to address the protests
currently going on
1551
01:16:51,468 --> 01:16:54,955
and the murder of George Floyd
at the hands of police.
1552
01:16:55,887 --> 01:16:57,820
[crowds chanting]
1553
01:16:58,752 --> 01:17:02,410
[reporter]
The outrage over the death
of George Floyd is global.
1554
01:17:02,548 --> 01:17:04,171
[woman]
We're here to enact change.
1555
01:17:04,309 --> 01:17:06,069
We're here to say
that our lives matter.
1556
01:17:06,207 --> 01:17:07,657
We need the community
to understand that.
1557
01:17:07,795 --> 01:17:10,039
[crowd]
We want change! We want change!
1558
01:17:10,487 --> 01:17:13,836
Certainly, all of those factors
were pumped up to 11.
1559
01:17:14,595 --> 01:17:16,321
[yelling and screaming]
1560
01:17:16,528 --> 01:17:18,841
[reporter] Dozens of American
cities up in flames
1561
01:17:18,979 --> 01:17:21,637
after some protests
turned into riots.
1562
01:17:21,775 --> 01:17:23,777
[crowd yelling]
1563
01:17:24,432 --> 01:17:26,158
I think that the way
that the platforms
1564
01:17:26,296 --> 01:17:29,161
and YouTube in particular looked
at these algorithms was
1565
01:17:29,299 --> 01:17:30,956
much more
from the perspective of,
1566
01:17:31,094 --> 01:17:33,200
"Oh wow, let's find a
way to get people
1567
01:17:33,338 --> 01:17:35,927
to see content coming
from like-minded people."
1568
01:17:36,065 --> 01:17:37,791
And I don't think it
had occurred to them
1569
01:17:37,929 --> 01:17:41,484
that like-minded people might
be people who were angry...
1570
01:17:41,622 --> 01:17:44,867
Start a riot?
Black lives matter? [bleep] you!
1571
01:17:45,315 --> 01:17:48,456
[Jillian]
...and looking for the kind of
content that would help them
1572
01:17:48,594 --> 01:17:51,667
connect with other people
who were angry in that same way
1573
01:17:51,805 --> 01:17:54,186
and not oriented
towards justice.
1574
01:17:56,257 --> 01:18:00,261
A lot of people turned
to conspiracy
for the first time.
1575
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:05,646
This is experimental
bio warfare on the people.
1576
01:18:06,543 --> 01:18:09,029
[Talia]
Some of them became out and out
white nationalists
1577
01:18:09,167 --> 01:18:10,513
and some of them
became sympathizers
1578
01:18:10,651 --> 01:18:13,550
and others became
QAnon supporters.
1579
01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:15,518
This is like a global takeover.
1580
01:18:15,656 --> 01:18:17,347
They're trying to create
a new world order, right?
1581
01:18:17,485 --> 01:18:20,040
They thought they could easily
get their great reset.
1582
01:18:20,316 --> 01:18:22,732
Little did they know!
Little did they know!
1583
01:18:22,939 --> 01:18:24,665
They thought they
could easily have it.
1584
01:18:24,803 --> 01:18:26,046
Pandemic's a hoax!
1585
01:18:27,254 --> 01:18:29,152
[Talia] It grew and grew
and grew and grew.
1586
01:18:35,262 --> 01:18:37,436
[Caleb] On January 6th,
I went down to the Capitol.
1587
01:18:37,574 --> 01:18:39,024
[screaming]
1588
01:18:39,335 --> 01:18:41,682
One thing that I've
tried to understand
1589
01:18:41,820 --> 01:18:43,477
is Internet subcultures.
1590
01:18:45,306 --> 01:18:47,067
And I was at the Capitol
to take pictures
1591
01:18:47,205 --> 01:18:48,896
of the different
extremist groups.
1592
01:18:49,034 --> 01:18:52,003
[crowd]
Stop the steal! Stop the steal!
1593
01:18:52,589 --> 01:18:54,246
They chased me around,
called me antifa.
1594
01:18:54,384 --> 01:18:56,248
Tried to get
the normal MAGA people,
1595
01:18:56,386 --> 01:18:58,112
because I could tell these were
some Proud Boys types.
1596
01:18:58,250 --> 01:19:00,425
We're going to storm
the fucking Capitol.
1597
01:19:00,563 --> 01:19:01,875
Fuck you fuckers.
1598
01:19:03,980 --> 01:19:05,948
Bellingcat did a great
study of looking
1599
01:19:06,086 --> 01:19:08,088
at sort of neo-Nazis on
Telegram who discussed
1600
01:19:08,226 --> 01:19:09,261
how they'd been radicalized.
1601
01:19:09,399 --> 01:19:11,436
And just like so many of them,
1602
01:19:11,574 --> 01:19:14,094
a majority of them,
cited YouTube specifically
1603
01:19:14,232 --> 01:19:17,166
as their
means of radicalization.
1604
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,169
This is probably
our last opportunity
1605
01:19:20,307 --> 01:19:24,311
to actually organize
against the New World Order.
1606
01:19:25,036 --> 01:19:28,971
[reporter]
Yesterday, conspiracy theorists,
the alt right, the far right,
1607
01:19:29,109 --> 01:19:33,044
QAnon followers,
and others stormed Capitol Hill
1608
01:19:33,182 --> 01:19:35,149
and livestreamed it.
1609
01:19:37,255 --> 01:19:40,051
[man]
A lot of the blame for inciting
these riots is being placed
1610
01:19:40,189 --> 01:19:42,087
on social media sites.
1611
01:19:42,398 --> 01:19:44,572
[reporter] YouTube announced
Tuesday it suspended
1612
01:19:44,710 --> 01:19:46,747
U.S. President
Donald Trump's channel
1613
01:19:46,885 --> 01:19:50,406
as it violated policies
against inciting violence.
1614
01:19:50,544 --> 01:19:53,961
[woman]
He was suspended from both
Twitter and banned from Facebook
1615
01:19:54,099 --> 01:19:55,307
and Instagram as well.
1616
01:19:56,308 --> 01:19:58,379
It's a sad day when
Big Tech has more power
1617
01:19:58,517 --> 01:20:00,278
than big government,
that they can censor
1618
01:20:00,416 --> 01:20:03,453
the President of
the United States.
1619
01:20:03,591 --> 01:20:06,215
[Harris Faulkner]
YouTube extending its suspension
1620
01:20:06,353 --> 01:20:09,563
of former President Trump's
account now indefinitely.
1621
01:20:09,701 --> 01:20:11,289
[screaming]
1622
01:20:11,496 --> 01:20:14,085
[Jillian] They saw that these
democratic institutions
1623
01:20:14,223 --> 01:20:15,707
that they were trying to protect
1624
01:20:15,845 --> 01:20:17,571
through freedom of expression
1625
01:20:17,709 --> 01:20:20,332
were actually being destroyed
right in front of their eyes
1626
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:22,610
on their platforms
for the whole world to see.
1627
01:20:22,748 --> 01:20:26,131
Patriots are inside
Nancy Pelosi's office!
1628
01:20:26,269 --> 01:20:28,444
Hey, everybody, Stefan Molyneux
from Freedomain radio.
1629
01:20:28,582 --> 01:20:31,619
[woman] YouTube is continuing
to ban the accounts
of white supremacists
1630
01:20:31,757 --> 01:20:34,105
in an effort to combat
hate speech on its platform.
1631
01:20:34,243 --> 01:20:38,385
We are going under
digital martial law.
1632
01:20:41,388 --> 01:20:44,287
[Caleb] Oversaturation of social
communication technology
1633
01:20:44,425 --> 01:20:47,394
is going
to cause a lot of conflict.
1634
01:20:48,050 --> 01:20:50,466
You know, radicalization getting
played out on YouTube
1635
01:20:50,604 --> 01:20:52,330
and everybody
throws their hands up and says,
1636
01:20:52,468 --> 01:20:55,574
"Oh, my God,
it's the new satanic panic."
1637
01:20:55,712 --> 01:20:57,162
It's the same old thing
1638
01:20:57,300 --> 01:20:59,647
that's been happening,
except now it's hyperlinked.
1639
01:21:01,339 --> 01:21:03,410
If we don't figure out
this problem,
1640
01:21:03,548 --> 01:21:05,964
we're going to lose
what it means to be human.
1641
01:21:10,106 --> 01:21:11,556
Your platforms have changed
1642
01:21:11,694 --> 01:21:15,008
how people across the planet
communicate, connect,
1643
01:21:15,146 --> 01:21:16,975
learn and stay informed.
1644
01:21:17,424 --> 01:21:18,839
The power of this technology
1645
01:21:18,977 --> 01:21:20,703
is awesome and terrifying,
1646
01:21:20,841 --> 01:21:24,949
and each of you has failed to
protect your users and the world
1647
01:21:25,087 --> 01:21:28,159
from the worst consequences
of your creations.
1648
01:21:29,194 --> 01:21:30,644
This is the first
time the three of you
1649
01:21:30,782 --> 01:21:32,301
have appeared before Congress
1650
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,718
since the deadly attack
on the Capitol on January 6th.
1651
01:21:36,305 --> 01:21:37,685
That event was
not just an attack
1652
01:21:37,823 --> 01:21:40,378
on our democracy
and our electoral process,
1653
01:21:40,516 --> 01:21:42,173
but an attack on every member
1654
01:21:42,311 --> 01:21:44,140
of this committee
and in the Congress.
1655
01:21:44,278 --> 01:21:46,763
I want to start
by asking all three of you
1656
01:21:46,902 --> 01:21:50,595
if your platform bears
some responsibility
1657
01:21:50,733 --> 01:21:54,219
for disseminating disinformation
related to the election
1658
01:21:54,357 --> 01:21:55,772
and the Stop the Steal movement
1659
01:21:55,911 --> 01:21:57,809
that lead
to the attack on the Capitol.
1660
01:21:57,947 --> 01:21:59,362
Just a yes or no answer.
1661
01:21:59,811 --> 01:22:02,710
We always feel a deep
sense of responsibility.
1662
01:22:02,848 --> 01:22:04,367
But I think we worked hard.
1663
01:22:05,748 --> 01:22:07,923
This election effort was one
of our most substantive efforts.
1664
01:22:08,061 --> 01:22:09,200
[Mike Doyle]
Is that a yes or a no?
1665
01:22:09,441 --> 01:22:11,133
Congressman,
it's a complex question.
1666
01:22:11,581 --> 01:22:14,101
-We...
-Okay, we'll move on.
1667
01:22:18,795 --> 01:22:20,797
[Natalie]
It's an interesting situation
1668
01:22:20,936 --> 01:22:24,560
where you have
what has basically
become the public forum
1669
01:22:24,801 --> 01:22:28,115
is run by about three
corporations.
1670
01:22:29,151 --> 01:22:32,223
That is a level of power,
1671
01:22:33,362 --> 01:22:36,192
a level of political power
and social power
1672
01:22:36,572 --> 01:22:41,163
and economic power that is a
little bit terrifying, I think.
1673
01:22:43,889 --> 01:22:46,478
[slow music]
1674
01:22:49,481 --> 01:22:51,207
[Brianna] Google is one
of the largest companies
1675
01:22:51,345 --> 01:22:52,864
in the entire world.
1676
01:22:53,002 --> 01:22:54,970
So, you know, one of the reasons
1677
01:22:55,108 --> 01:22:59,319
I ran for Congress was I thought
that I could be a force of good.
1678
01:22:59,940 --> 01:23:01,562
Hi, I'm Brianna Wu.
1679
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:03,909
And I'm running to be your
congresswoman right here
1680
01:23:04,048 --> 01:23:06,188
in Massachusetts District Eight.
1681
01:23:07,983 --> 01:23:10,468
I thought that having
someone that had been affected
by these issues,
1682
01:23:10,606 --> 01:23:13,609
I hoped that I could make
a difference directly.
1683
01:23:13,885 --> 01:23:16,957
Clearly just tweeting
about these issues,
1684
01:23:17,095 --> 01:23:18,614
it's not working.
1685
01:23:18,752 --> 01:23:21,375
We need legislators that really
care about this issue
1686
01:23:21,513 --> 01:23:24,068
and will put
skin on the line for it.
1687
01:23:25,069 --> 01:23:28,313
I want to be very clear that the
prosecution's decision
1688
01:23:28,451 --> 01:23:30,315
to abandon my client's claims
1689
01:23:30,453 --> 01:23:34,664
does not invalidate
the truth of her claims.
1690
01:23:34,940 --> 01:23:38,323
Well, because I am a litigator,
1691
01:23:38,461 --> 01:23:42,914
my whole like purpose
is this idea that,
1692
01:23:43,052 --> 01:23:47,677
you know, one lawyer
and one client can pay $210
1693
01:23:47,815 --> 01:23:50,577
for an index number
to start a lawsuit.
1694
01:23:50,715 --> 01:23:55,375
And that team of people can
create law that rules the land.
1695
01:23:55,513 --> 01:23:58,171
And that process comes about
1696
01:23:58,309 --> 01:24:02,002
by starting a case, appealing
and appealing when you lose,
1697
01:24:02,140 --> 01:24:04,280
and then petitioning
to the Supreme Court.
1698
01:24:04,867 --> 01:24:08,181
And so that's
why I think litigation
1699
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:12,012
to reform the Internet
is really powerful
1700
01:24:12,150 --> 01:24:16,292
and is like
where I put my effort.
1701
01:24:16,741 --> 01:24:18,846
So, yeah, I do think it needs
to go to the Supreme Court.
1702
01:24:19,571 --> 01:24:21,159
Can you bring it here?
1703
01:24:25,508 --> 01:24:27,579
I'd like to think I've
been making a dent in it.
1704
01:24:27,855 --> 01:24:31,618
The NRA when I started was,
you know, all powerful.
1705
01:24:31,756 --> 01:24:34,207
Now they're,
they haven't gone away,
1706
01:24:34,345 --> 01:24:36,071
but they're somewhat in retreat.
1707
01:24:36,761 --> 01:24:39,177
With Google,
it's the same thing.
1708
01:24:39,315 --> 01:24:43,837
I have started
a Change.org petition.
1709
01:24:45,114 --> 01:24:47,392
People are calling in to say,
1710
01:24:47,530 --> 01:24:50,430
help Andy Parker,
give him the co-copyright.
1711
01:24:50,568 --> 01:24:52,156
What good is it for you
1712
01:24:52,294 --> 01:24:55,262
when he can at least use this
in his fight against Google?
1713
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:01,751
And so it's a worthwhile fight
and I'm not giving up.
1714
01:25:01,889 --> 01:25:04,616
And whether it comes from
the Supreme Court or Congress,
1715
01:25:04,754 --> 01:25:08,344
I think it's more likely
to come from legislation,
1716
01:25:08,482 --> 01:25:09,828
congressional legislation.
1717
01:25:10,277 --> 01:25:12,900
Google profits massively
1718
01:25:13,038 --> 01:25:14,971
off of lack of regulation.
1719
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:16,456
If it cannot properly
1720
01:25:16,594 --> 01:25:19,183
protect citizens
from online harassment,
1721
01:25:19,390 --> 01:25:22,151
hate speech
and moment of death videos,
1722
01:25:22,289 --> 01:25:24,878
I call on Congress to step in
1723
01:25:25,016 --> 01:25:27,329
and make sure
that proper protections
1724
01:25:27,467 --> 01:25:29,469
are in place
for private citizens like me
1725
01:25:29,607 --> 01:25:32,782
who are continually
harassed and exploited.
1726
01:25:33,231 --> 01:25:36,614
Well it's a great saying,
with great power
comes great responsibility.
1727
01:25:36,752 --> 01:25:40,756
We did tell him that you have,
you have the influence, right,
1728
01:25:40,894 --> 01:25:42,206
to influence kids.
1729
01:25:42,344 --> 01:25:45,001
So we, hopefully
we teach him right
1730
01:25:45,140 --> 01:25:47,418
and use that influence for good.
1731
01:25:47,556 --> 01:25:49,282
So what we did,
1732
01:25:49,420 --> 01:25:52,561
partnered with the YouTube team,
is we interviewed
health experts.
1733
01:25:53,009 --> 01:25:56,944
If somebody sneezes or coughs
and they have the coronavirus,
1734
01:25:57,082 --> 01:25:58,912
how far can it spread?
1735
01:25:59,050 --> 01:26:00,431
That's such a cool question.
1736
01:26:00,569 --> 01:26:02,743
These particles are so tiny
1737
01:26:03,503 --> 01:26:04,987
that they even happen
when we talk.
1738
01:26:05,125 --> 01:26:06,575
They come out
of our mouth when we talk.
1739
01:26:06,713 --> 01:26:08,715
I know that sounds really gross.
[laughter]
1740
01:26:08,853 --> 01:26:11,649
[Shion] Ryan asks all those
questions for his fans.
1741
01:26:11,787 --> 01:26:16,101
And now, until when do you want
to do the YouTube thing?
1742
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,794
Until when you're 20-something?
1743
01:26:18,932 --> 01:26:21,037
Yeah, 20, I think 6 or 5.
1744
01:26:21,176 --> 01:26:24,213
So he wants to continue this
until at least he's 26.
1745
01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:25,663
Just for now. [laughs]
1746
01:26:25,801 --> 01:26:28,459
And why? He had a reason why.
1747
01:26:29,114 --> 01:26:30,495
I don't remember.
1748
01:26:30,944 --> 01:26:34,016
I know you've probably already
read the title by now,
1749
01:26:34,154 --> 01:26:38,607
but I feel like we should
just come out and say it.
1750
01:26:38,848 --> 01:26:40,816
I'm leaving Smosh.
1751
01:26:40,954 --> 01:26:43,163
I know a lot of you guys
are probably going to assume
1752
01:26:43,612 --> 01:26:46,097
he's leaving because
we got in some sort of big fight
1753
01:26:46,235 --> 01:26:48,410
or because we hate each other.
1754
01:26:48,789 --> 01:26:52,207
But I can guarantee you guys
it has nothing to do with that.
1755
01:26:52,345 --> 01:26:54,209
-That did not happen.
-No.
1756
01:26:54,450 --> 01:26:56,625
[Anthony]
I started to really look at
1757
01:26:56,763 --> 01:26:59,731
what I put out there
into the ether as...
1758
01:27:01,216 --> 01:27:04,874
really having some kind of
influence on the way that people
1759
01:27:05,012 --> 01:27:09,120
go about their days after
watching a piece of content.
1760
01:27:09,741 --> 01:27:11,916
My name is Anthony Padilla,
1761
01:27:12,054 --> 01:27:14,574
and today I'm going to be
sitting down with survivors
of school shootings
1762
01:27:14,712 --> 01:27:18,163
to learn what it's really like
to live through such a traumatic
1763
01:27:18,302 --> 01:27:19,579
and Earth-shattering event.
1764
01:27:19,717 --> 01:27:21,512
-Thank you so much, Shelby.
-Thank you!
1765
01:27:21,650 --> 01:27:25,136
I feel like I fully understand
the wondrous
world of asexuality.
1766
01:27:25,274 --> 01:27:27,759
-I'm so glad.
-And congratulations on coming
out to the entire world.
1767
01:27:27,897 --> 01:27:30,314
-Oh my God, I forgot already.
-[laughter]
1768
01:27:30,969 --> 01:27:33,075
[Anthony]
It made me realize
that the world
1769
01:27:33,213 --> 01:27:37,562
would be so much
of a better place if people came
1770
01:27:38,391 --> 01:27:39,840
into any interaction first with,
1771
01:27:39,978 --> 01:27:42,118
from a place of curiosity
and trying to understand
1772
01:27:42,257 --> 01:27:43,706
rather than judgment.
1773
01:27:43,844 --> 01:27:46,778
And it kind of made me
feel like there was
1774
01:27:46,916 --> 01:27:48,953
a point to what I was doing,
1775
01:27:50,230 --> 01:27:51,300
which really helped.
1776
01:27:51,438 --> 01:27:52,681
[cork popping]
1777
01:27:53,923 --> 01:27:58,134
You know what, America? Things,
things have not gone well.
1778
01:27:58,790 --> 01:28:00,723
Well, as long as I can remember
being on YouTube,
1779
01:28:00,861 --> 01:28:03,657
there have always been people
who are prognosticating the end.
1780
01:28:03,795 --> 01:28:06,073
"Right, oh, this is
the end of the free Internet.
1781
01:28:06,211 --> 01:28:08,006
Like the corporations
are going to come in,
1782
01:28:08,144 --> 01:28:09,284
they're going to take over."
1783
01:28:09,422 --> 01:28:10,664
Like it used to be
the Wild West,
1784
01:28:10,802 --> 01:28:11,700
it used to be fun,
it used to be free.
1785
01:28:11,838 --> 01:28:13,426
But it's all about to end.
1786
01:28:13,564 --> 01:28:15,704
You know, I've been hearing
people say that for 14 years.
1787
01:28:16,394 --> 01:28:17,982
[chuckles] As for me,
1788
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,605
Yeah, I'm not just some person
filming on a webcam
1789
01:28:20,743 --> 01:28:22,573
in my bedroom anymore,
there's a budget.
1790
01:28:22,711 --> 01:28:24,885
There's, you know,
a million subscribers,
1791
01:28:25,023 --> 01:28:26,646
but it's still me.
1792
01:28:26,784 --> 01:28:30,684
And because I do commentary
on multiple-year trends,
1793
01:28:30,822 --> 01:28:32,652
is kind of
the time frame I try to work on,
1794
01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:35,517
I will respond to those trends
as they happen.
1795
01:28:35,655 --> 01:28:39,452
Like, am I going
to be agile enough
that I can stay interesting
1796
01:28:39,693 --> 01:28:42,006
and continue
to know what I'm talking about?
1797
01:28:42,938 --> 01:28:47,425
I hope I can. I intend to try.
[chuckles]
1798
01:28:51,187 --> 01:28:55,537
Ideally, where do you see
YouTube in the future?
1799
01:28:55,675 --> 01:28:58,160
And also just personally,
1800
01:28:58,298 --> 01:29:00,956
where do you see
the role of big tech
1801
01:29:01,094 --> 01:29:05,098
in terms of the fact that
it has had so much power?
1802
01:29:05,236 --> 01:29:07,549
What do you think
the ideal scenario is
1803
01:29:09,378 --> 01:29:11,415
moving forward as both
someone who is overseeing
YouTube and as a mom,
1804
01:29:11,553 --> 01:29:14,487
as someone who's just
a member of this crazy society
1805
01:29:14,625 --> 01:29:16,627
we find ourselves in
at this moment?
1806
01:29:17,248 --> 01:29:18,594
[chuckles]
1807
01:29:18,836 --> 01:29:22,253
So I see, I mean,
I see a lot of the benefits.
1808
01:29:22,391 --> 01:29:26,084
I see the benefits
of the educational communities,
1809
01:29:26,222 --> 01:29:29,709
of connecting
diverse communities
that otherwise could have never
1810
01:29:29,847 --> 01:29:33,471
been connected
and at the same time
be thinking about
1811
01:29:33,609 --> 01:29:35,300
what are the risks,
what are the downsides,
1812
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,061
how can we manage that?
1813
01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:39,132
I know that right now there's
a lot of discussion about it,
1814
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:44,413
but I see that for many reasons
that will get worked out.
1815
01:29:44,551 --> 01:29:48,037
I think there's
a demand from society,
1816
01:29:48,175 --> 01:29:51,662
from the press,
certainly from governments.
1817
01:29:51,869 --> 01:29:55,320
And I do believe that technology
1818
01:29:55,459 --> 01:29:58,807
has a tremendous opportunity
for good in the long term.
1819
01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:04,468
[upbeat music playing]
1820
01:30:06,435 --> 01:30:12,476
[crowd counting down]
1821
01:30:14,892 --> 01:30:18,482
[all cheering]
[opening bell ringing]
1822
01:30:19,137 --> 01:30:20,863
What I would like to see us do
1823
01:30:21,001 --> 01:30:23,141
is to fundamentally
rethink the business model.
1824
01:30:23,521 --> 01:30:24,936
I would like to see us to return
1825
01:30:25,074 --> 01:30:27,007
to something more sane,
which is say, look,
1826
01:30:27,145 --> 01:30:29,596
if there is value to Facebook
and to Twitter and to YouTube,
1827
01:30:29,734 --> 01:30:31,598
I should just pay
a subscription for it.
1828
01:30:31,736 --> 01:30:33,117
And if I'm paying
a subscription,
1829
01:30:33,255 --> 01:30:34,463
my business model
looks really different.
1830
01:30:34,601 --> 01:30:36,016
My incentives look different.
1831
01:30:37,432 --> 01:30:39,848
At Google, the past year
has given renewed purpose
to our mission
1832
01:30:40,331 --> 01:30:42,057
to organize
the world's information
1833
01:30:42,402 --> 01:30:44,680
and make it universally
accessible and useful.
1834
01:30:44,818 --> 01:30:48,166
Building a more helpful
Google for everyone.
1835
01:30:48,788 --> 01:30:50,997
[slow music]
1836
01:30:51,998 --> 01:30:53,862
At other times in our history,
1837
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,037
we have seen dramatic changes,
1838
01:30:57,659 --> 01:31:00,662
breaking up oil
and railroad trusts.
1839
01:31:01,490 --> 01:31:04,044
Addressing big tobacco,
1840
01:31:05,045 --> 01:31:08,255
you know, instituting
automotive safety reforms.
1841
01:31:08,393 --> 01:31:14,538
We have stepped up and taken on
corporate behemoths in the past.
1842
01:31:16,988 --> 01:31:19,646
But it was
a very different time.
1843
01:31:21,441 --> 01:31:23,408
Until there's really
1844
01:31:23,547 --> 01:31:27,930
popular momentum
for some of these changes,
1845
01:31:28,068 --> 01:31:29,656
they're just
not going to happen.
1846
01:31:33,108 --> 01:31:36,283
[dramatic music]
1847
01:31:37,457 --> 01:31:41,012
If YouTube,
the company went down tomorrow,
1848
01:31:41,150 --> 01:31:43,808
I think there would be
a lot of harmful content
1849
01:31:43,946 --> 01:31:45,776
that was no longer
on the Internet.
1850
01:31:46,949 --> 01:31:49,331
But there also
would be a ton of creators
1851
01:31:49,469 --> 01:31:51,195
just trying to make a living
1852
01:31:51,333 --> 01:31:53,749
who'd no longer have
the venue to do that, right?
1853
01:31:53,991 --> 01:31:57,132
Days like this is
why I started vlogging,
1854
01:31:57,270 --> 01:31:59,514
because otherwise
no one would see this.
1855
01:32:02,965 --> 01:32:04,519
It really just kind of depends
1856
01:32:04,657 --> 01:32:06,590
on what your outlook in life is.
1857
01:32:06,728 --> 01:32:10,076
If you're the kind of person
who's looking for differences,
1858
01:32:10,214 --> 01:32:11,698
who's looking
for ways to condemn
1859
01:32:11,836 --> 01:32:13,286
other people
and to divide us out,
1860
01:32:13,424 --> 01:32:15,599
then you're going to see
YouTube as an enabler
1861
01:32:15,737 --> 01:32:17,946
of these
terrible movements, right,
1862
01:32:18,084 --> 01:32:20,569
as a way of justifying
the things that you're doing.
1863
01:32:20,707 --> 01:32:23,261
Whereas if you're someone
who's seeking those connections,
1864
01:32:23,399 --> 01:32:25,401
who's seeking to find
what we have in common
1865
01:32:25,540 --> 01:32:28,266
or to expose injustice,
then you're going to use it
1866
01:32:28,404 --> 01:32:30,545
for those purposes.
1867
01:32:30,683 --> 01:32:33,340
And so really, it's
the great enabler of all
of these different things.
1868
01:32:33,478 --> 01:32:36,758
[man] Lift off of the 25th
space shuttle mission,
1869
01:32:36,896 --> 01:32:38,345
and it has cleared the tower.
1870
01:32:38,483 --> 01:32:41,383
I really feel like
this is the commons.
1871
01:32:41,521 --> 01:32:44,006
YouTube is our public library.
1872
01:32:44,144 --> 01:32:47,527
[excited basketball commentary]
1873
01:32:47,665 --> 01:32:50,219
[Brianna] It's a critical part
of human civilization.
1874
01:32:50,530 --> 01:32:52,808
[Martin Luther King Jr]
We've learned to fly
the air like birds.
1875
01:32:52,946 --> 01:32:56,398
We've learned to swim
the seas like fish.
1876
01:32:56,536 --> 01:32:58,469
And yet we haven't
learned to walk the Earth
1877
01:32:58,607 --> 01:33:00,229
as brothers and sisters.
1878
01:33:01,092 --> 01:33:03,060
[Brianna]
But I think that corporations
1879
01:33:03,198 --> 01:33:05,269
don't do the right thing
until they're forced
1880
01:33:05,407 --> 01:33:06,926
to do the right thing.
1881
01:33:11,586 --> 01:33:17,039
My greatest fear is that we all
become citizens of big tech.
1882
01:33:18,627 --> 01:33:20,560
And that there comes a point
1883
01:33:20,698 --> 01:33:25,358
where they're far more powerful
than our courts or lawmakers
1884
01:33:25,496 --> 01:33:27,809
and that they have
more information
1885
01:33:27,947 --> 01:33:31,640
than our law enforcers
and that we're all just
1886
01:33:31,778 --> 01:33:33,780
kind of at their mercy.
1887
01:33:34,574 --> 01:33:40,269
[dramatic rock music]
1888
01:33:59,047 --> 01:34:01,774
We have built
a technological grid system
1889
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,467
that we essentially
can't destroy
1890
01:34:05,605 --> 01:34:07,745
because we're relying on it now.
1891
01:34:11,093 --> 01:34:14,027
And they've got
these things buried
at the bottom of the ocean.
1892
01:34:14,925 --> 01:34:17,134
Is anybody stopping for a second
1893
01:34:17,272 --> 01:34:20,551
and thinking about what it means
to build something
and rely on something like that
1894
01:34:20,689 --> 01:34:22,346
and to never question it?
1895
01:34:23,243 --> 01:34:25,383
Are we speeding
things up too fast?
1896
01:34:28,179 --> 01:34:30,388
And what are we
speeding towards?
1897
01:34:40,019 --> 01:34:44,713
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1898
01:35:09,980 --> 01:35:15,744
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1899
01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:53,161
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1900
01:36:20,775 --> 01:36:25,503
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1901
01:36:45,903 --> 01:36:51,288
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1902
01:37:23,561 --> 01:37:29,360
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1903
01:37:54,144 --> 01:38:00,944
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1904
01:38:41,398 --> 01:38:47,438
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