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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,239 (SOMBRE MUSIC) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,639 In the aftermath of the 1916 Rising, 5 00:00:16,639 --> 00:00:19,239 the British government executed 16 men. 6 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:24,160 Seven of them left behind wives and children, 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,079 many of them still very young. 8 00:00:28,959 --> 00:00:32,598 And in the decade of centenaries, much has been said about these men. 9 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:34,559 But how many of us know about 10 00:00:34,559 --> 00:00:38,000 the women and children that they left behind? 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,879 The women were Agnes Mallin, the wife of Michael Mallin. 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,598 Lily Connolly, the wife of James Connolly. 13 00:00:45,598 --> 00:00:49,720 Grace Plunkett, wife of Joseph Mary Plunkett. 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,000 Grace's sister, Muriel MacDonagh, wife of Thomas MacDonagh. 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,959 Kathleen Clarke, wife of Tom Clarke. 16 00:00:58,639 --> 00:01:01,279 Aine Ceannt, wife of Eamonn Ceannt. 17 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:06,199 And Maud Gonne, the wife of Jon MacBride. 18 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:10,199 These seven women were from a variety 19 00:01:10,199 --> 00:01:13,360 of class, ideological and educational backgrounds 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,400 spanning the breadth of Irish society at the time. 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,440 And yet, they had several things in common. 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,919 They all lived through the hell of Easter Week 23 00:01:20,919 --> 00:01:25,239 and were widowed at the same time, left to pick up the pieces. 24 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:29,199 In his last hour on Earth, Eamonn Ceannt wrote to his wife Aine, 25 00:01:29,239 --> 00:01:32,319 to tell her, "Men and women will vie with one another 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,279 to shake your dear hand. 27 00:01:34,279 --> 00:01:39,279 You will be, you are the wife of one of the leaders of the revolution." 28 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:44,120 But the reality for these women would be radically different. 29 00:01:46,639 --> 00:01:48,959 Much about their stories isn't unusual. 30 00:01:48,959 --> 00:01:52,279 Theirs is the social and political history of many women 31 00:01:52,279 --> 00:01:56,040 as Ireland moved from revolution into the new Free State. 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,720 The widows of Easter 1916 didn't die for Ireland. 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,720 They had to keep on living for Ireland. 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,599 What would this new free Ireland be like for them, and for all women? 35 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:10,720 Would it actually have a real place for them in it? 36 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,800 In many respects, the 1916 Rising represented a high point 37 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,800 of the idea of equality for Irish women. 38 00:02:30,839 --> 00:02:35,160 And nowhere is this more evident than in the proclamation of the republic. 39 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,879 A truly radical document that addressed Irishmen and Irishwomen. 40 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,919 Insisting on equality of the sexes, freedom of religious expression 41 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,639 and equal economic opportunity. 42 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:53,040 To quote it, "The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, 43 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:58,879 equal rights and equal opportunities of all citizens." 44 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,639 This was the proclamation that these women's husbands 45 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,480 had given their lives for. 46 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,599 This and the republic that it declared Ireland to be 47 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:10,160 would become a touchstone for the widows for the rest of their lives. 48 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,879 Time and time again, they would hark back to it 49 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:15,480 and remind others of it too. 50 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,519 But following the executions, 51 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:20,480 the women also had other things on their minds. 52 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Can you just tell me, Sinead, about the immediate aftermath? 53 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,639 They're still in this very fluid situation, 54 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,959 their husbands have been executed and many have small children. 55 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,400 I mean, it was absolute chaos. 56 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,680 I mean, Dublin is destroyed. 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,720 The gas to the city had been cut off. 58 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,199 There was that whole reaction to what had happened. 59 00:03:45,239 --> 00:03:48,279 It all plunged into a public realm. 60 00:03:48,279 --> 00:03:50,959 Their houses had been raided in most cases. 61 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:52,839 There's mass arrests. 62 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,199 (EARNER―BYRNE) Immediately after the Rising, 63 00:03:58,199 --> 00:04:01,360 many of the widows were plunged into s struggle for survival. 64 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,720 All of them, with the exception of Grace Plunkett, 65 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,239 had small children to feed. 66 00:04:05,239 --> 00:04:08,519 And only Maud Gonne had independent wealth to fall back upon. 67 00:04:08,559 --> 00:04:11,319 The family of Lily Connolly, for example, 68 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:15,879 wife of executed leader James Connolly, was left destitute. 69 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,919 A letter survives written by Lily Connolly's daughter, 70 00:04:18,919 --> 00:04:23,040 Nora Connolly, in which she recalls their circumstances at the time. 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,319 "We were in dire straits," she wrote. 72 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:28,879 "We had no money whatsoever and no means of getting any. 73 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:31,680 Daddy never had any money to spare. 74 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,839 The last few pounds he'd had in his wallet were taken from him 75 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,199 after his arrest." 76 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,639 You know, many of them didn't have the opportunity to earn money 77 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:43,559 because of the nature of Irish society at that time. 78 00:04:43,559 --> 00:04:45,319 But even for those who did, 79 00:04:45,319 --> 00:04:49,519 for example, Aine Ceannt, who ran a private fee-paying school, 80 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:53,599 she came back to her home after the Easter Rising, 81 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:56,839 her husband had been executed. She had dependents to look after, 82 00:04:56,879 --> 00:04:58,519 including a child. 83 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:01,400 And that school had been ransacked and destroyed. 84 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,879 So her source of income was gone. Her husband was gone. 85 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:08,480 And she was left with no support in the immediate aftermath 86 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,000 to try and deal with that reality, with her own grief, her own loss, 87 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,199 and also, the lack of any financial support. 88 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,599 Widows, as with other single mothers, 89 00:05:19,599 --> 00:05:23,480 had very little access to the workplace, 90 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,800 they had issues of childcare. 91 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,879 Many of them had to rely upon charity and philanthropy 92 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:31,800 as there wasn't any welfare. 93 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:39,000 (EARNER―BYRNE) Just how harsh life could be for widows at the time 94 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,800 and how limited their options sometimes were 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,839 is illustrated by the holdings found in the National Archives of Ireland. 96 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:50,440 The National Archive preserves the memory of the state. 97 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,480 So, we hold all of the records that relate to the modern Irish state 98 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:58,319 bin terms of government records from 1921 onwards. 99 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:01,199 But we also still do have holdings relating to the period 100 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:03,879 when Ireland was under British administration. 101 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:07,238 So, really the holdings tell a range of stories 102 00:06:07,238 --> 00:06:09,760 in terms of the political stories, the social stories, 103 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,000 the economic stories, the cultural stories, 104 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,279 that shaped and framed the nation. 105 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:19,480 So, really, Orlaith, before 1922 and the foundation of the Irish State 106 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 apart from charity, what would a widow rely on 107 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,040 in terms of relief or welfare? 108 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,720 Very little really. The workhouse. 109 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,519 (EARNER―BYRNE) At the time, 110 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:33,559 workhouses were the only official help available to the destitute. 111 00:06:33,559 --> 00:06:36,760 In the workhouses, families were separated from each other, 112 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,720 and conditions were often grim. 113 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,919 As a result, only the most desperate, 114 00:06:42,919 --> 00:06:46,199 those who had no other choice would go there. 115 00:06:46,238 --> 00:06:49,760 We have ledgers here in the National Archives from the workhouses. 116 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,959 They clearly show that it's widows who are turning up. 117 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:57,319 In each line, you've got "widow, widow, widow, widow, widow." 118 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Pretty bleak. 119 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,319 (EARNER-BYRNE) Many widows faced destitution and the workhouse 120 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:07,800 following the loss of their husbands who were often 121 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,959 the sole or main breadwinners. 122 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,160 The families of the men involved in 1916 were no exception 123 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,440 and an immediate charity drive was started to help them. 124 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,279 There's initially fundraising to provide assistance 125 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:27,160 for the widows of those killed in the Rising, 126 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,599 also for those who were jailed. 127 00:07:28,599 --> 00:07:32,599 And this becomes the Irish National Aid and Volunteer Dependence Fund. 128 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,599 And it's really fronted and initially administered 129 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:38,760 by the widows, particularly Kathleen Clark 130 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,400 and Aine Ceannt. 131 00:07:42,559 --> 00:07:45,760 They start fundraising, appealing to the people of Ireland 132 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,120 to raise money to support the prisoners and the families 133 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,160 of men who were killed during the Rising itself. 134 00:07:53,559 --> 00:07:56,680 This rose into a really successful 135 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,800 charitable welfare-driven organisation 136 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,480 that raises money all over Ireland, across the Irish Diaspora, 137 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,519 and the money that's raised in Ireland 138 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,239 is dwarfed by huge amounts that come in from America, in particular. 139 00:08:09,239 --> 00:08:12,720 And in that fundraising initiative, 140 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,680 is the story of the widows part of the propaganda used? 141 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,879 The widows are, sort of, front and centre, and the children, 142 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:22,279 in this propaganda to raise the money. 143 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:28,559 The story of the widows of 1916 and their children 144 00:08:28,559 --> 00:08:32,160 became a powerful tool for raising public sympathy and money 145 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,720 for their families. 146 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,199 But it had another effect on them too. 147 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:40,599 The widows, despite their own intense personal grief 148 00:08:40,599 --> 00:08:42,199 and financial struggles 149 00:08:42,199 --> 00:08:45,559 had to get used to the glare of the public spotlight. 150 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,239 In the wake of the 1916 Rising and the execution of their husbands, 151 00:08:49,239 --> 00:08:52,040 there was significant international and national interest 152 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,160 in them and their children. 153 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Indeed, the nationalist movement had to exploit that interest 154 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,480 in order to both change the initially hostile reaction to the Rising 155 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,559 but also to bring in much needed funds 156 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,559 so that the movement could regroup and continue. 157 00:09:06,958 --> 00:09:10,040 As a result, the women found themselves at the forefront 158 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,400 of the nationalist publicity effort. 159 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,279 Remember, this is during the First World War, 160 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:21,360 so, the British state has very heavy censorship. 161 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,000 You've got the Defence of the Realm Act, DORA, 162 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,800 so the newspapers are heavily censored. 163 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,559 You can do anything political in them. 164 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,800 What you can do is much more emotional. 165 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,080 And appealing to the emotions, 166 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,160 talking about the lives of the men or the lives of their widows. 167 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,958 An example of this is the 1916 Christmas edition 168 00:09:45,958 --> 00:09:47,519 of the Catholic Bulletin, 169 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:51,760 that featured pictures of many of the 1916 widows and their children. 170 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:56,720 (WARD) The photographs, in particular, 171 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,279 that are included in the Catholic Bulletin 172 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,040 subvert the censorship 173 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,480 because people take the photos afterwards 174 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,599 and use them as part of the fundraising drive 175 00:10:07,599 --> 00:10:12,319 and use them as pamphlets about the rising. 176 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,319 It must have been very tough to have been so much in the spotlight 177 00:10:21,319 --> 00:10:23,639 at a time of such intense grief. 178 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,040 While many of the widows threw themselves wholeheartedly 179 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,919 into raising awareness of the cause their husbands had died for, 180 00:10:32,919 --> 00:10:38,120 some of them reacted to the intense scrutiny in unexpected ways. 181 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,440 The American newspapers pick up the stories of the widows of 1916, 182 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,440 particularly the romantic story 183 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,360 of Grace Gifford and Joseph Plunkett. 184 00:10:48,599 --> 00:10:51,400 Grace and Joe had been married in a last minute ceremony 185 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,800 in Kilmainham Gaol. 186 00:10:54,599 --> 00:10:58,919 Within hours, he was executed and she never saw him again. 187 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:02,279 It was a story that gripped the public imagination. 188 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,519 An American newspaper reporter came to interview Grace, 189 00:11:06,519 --> 00:11:09,879 the grieving widow and got a bit of a surprise. 190 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,919 If you can imagine walking through Ireland in this period 191 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:17,519 and you would see a lot of women wearing black 192 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:19,559 and what were known as "widow's weeds," 193 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,760 which you wore for a period of time, 194 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,400 so it was a very public demonstration of your grief 195 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,839 and your widowhood. 196 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,160 And then when this American reporter, Irish-American reporter 197 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,040 Eileen Moore comes to interview her, 198 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,958 she's already telling her readers that 199 00:11:34,958 --> 00:11:36,800 I was expecting to have this woman 200 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,800 who was going to sob her way through our meeting and interview 201 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,720 and out she emerges in this white outfit holding a kitten. 202 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,519 She's wearing all these rings on her fingers 203 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:51,958 and she's got bushy red hair and she's wearing the dress of the day 204 00:11:51,958 --> 00:11:54,199 but she's just vibrant. 205 00:11:54,199 --> 00:11:57,639 And she's an artist, she's trained with William Orpen 206 00:11:57,639 --> 00:12:00,440 so she's very aware of what she looks like 207 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,919 and she's deliberately playing to the journalist who comes. 208 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:06,360 She doesn't want to be seen through this filter 209 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,440 because she's reacting, because she's already becoming 210 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,639 a caricature of herself. 211 00:12:16,199 --> 00:12:18,679 Some of the widows were also uncomfortable 212 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,040 with the public spotlight. 213 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,519 In the years after the Rising, 214 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,599 Lily Connolly tried to keep her life private, 215 00:12:25,599 --> 00:12:28,120 leaving the public activism to her children, 216 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,199 especially Ina, Nora, and Roddy Connolly. 217 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,519 Maud Gonne was also often left out of the publicity around the widows, 218 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:39,599 but for very different reasons. 219 00:12:40,599 --> 00:12:44,440 She was set apart from the other widows in so far as 220 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,879 she was not living with her husband at the time of the Easter Rising. 221 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:52,040 They had separated some 10-11 years previously 222 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:57,760 in acrimonious circumstances and she was living in France. 223 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:03,480 John MacBride, by the early 1900s, was a hero of the Boer War, 224 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:06,160 having commanded the Irish Brigade during the Boer War. 225 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,958 He after the war ended, couldn't get back to Ireland, 226 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,319 so he came to Paris which was a centre for exiles and Irish emigres 227 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,839 through the 19th century and into the 20th century. 228 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:19,279 And they met, Maud Gonne and John MacBride, 229 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:22,639 married in a whirlwind romance. 230 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:25,360 Things quickly went wrong. 231 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,000 And they were told by many of their friends, 232 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,239 Arthur Griffiths said, "Don't do this, please!" Yeah. 233 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:34,279 Maud Gonne sought a divorce from her husband 234 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:37,440 citing complaints of cruelty against her, 235 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,679 of physical abuse while she was pregnant, of drunkenness. 236 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,599 And as it turned out, there was an explosive allegation made 237 00:13:44,599 --> 00:13:47,120 that John MacBride had sexually abused 238 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,519 her ten-year-old daughter, Iseult. 239 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,360 It wasn't clear at all that a divorce could be granted. 240 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,040 These people were not married under British law 241 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,000 or Irish law at the time. 242 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,040 The question of their citizenship was also quite complex. 243 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,400 John MacBride had been stripped of his citizenship 244 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,120 by having taken up arms against the Crown. 245 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,519 And in the end, they weren't able to be fully divorced 246 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:15,279 so it was a judicial separation, in the end. 247 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Maud Gonne was afraid to go back to Ireland. 248 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,319 She was worried that her husband would reopen proceedings, 249 00:14:23,319 --> 00:14:24,720 would take her son away, 250 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,360 and so, John MacBride's name in Maud Gonne's household 251 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,400 was a name to be scared of. 252 00:14:31,319 --> 00:14:35,160 And then in 1916, after the Rising, all that changed completely. 253 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:38,239 John MacBride became a name to be honoured, 254 00:14:38,239 --> 00:14:40,720 he was a martyr, he died for Ireland, 255 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,440 "He has given my son a name he can be proud of," 256 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,160 that was something she wrote. 257 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,239 And she took the name back on. Yeah. 258 00:14:47,239 --> 00:14:51,519 Embraced widow's weeds, wore black for the rest of her life. 259 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:54,360 Very... You know, full mourning for the rest of her life. 260 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,879 Despite fully embracing her dead husband's legacy, 261 00:14:57,879 --> 00:15:01,160 a sense of moral taint clung to Maud Gonne MacBride, 262 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,760 a result of her attempt to divorce him. 263 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,360 This was an era where a woman could not claim either charitable help 264 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,519 or the moral high ground if she was seen 265 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:12,160 as anything other than respectable. 266 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,239 As a result, Maud was often not included in publicity 267 00:15:15,239 --> 00:15:16,879 with the other widows. 268 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:19,639 . 269 00:15:30,239 --> 00:15:34,800 The publicity generated by the widows and their children was crucial 270 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,559 in bringing public opinion around behind the 1916 Rising. 271 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:42,279 But women actually played a much bigger role 272 00:15:42,279 --> 00:15:44,959 in sustaining the nationalist movement itself. 273 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:48,760 (BORGONOV) So, after the executions, 274 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,680 the movement has been essentially decapitated. 275 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,000 There's martial law and there's censorship. 276 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,199 Things are really in disarray. 277 00:15:57,199 --> 00:16:00,160 The widows really step in. 278 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,839 Kathleen Clark had been really given a succession plan 279 00:16:04,839 --> 00:16:06,400 by her husband who was head 280 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,000 of the Irish Republican Brotherhood military council. 281 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,720 She had a pot of around three or four thousand pounds, 282 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,199 and she really starts the ball rolling. 283 00:16:16,319 --> 00:16:20,800 The key to all this was the Irish Volunteer Dependence Fund 284 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,599 was really the only public face 285 00:16:23,599 --> 00:16:26,400 of what becomes the independence movement. 286 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,319 It really becomes a parish by parish national organisation 287 00:16:31,319 --> 00:16:35,000 at a time when there is no Sinn Fein political party, 288 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,760 when there is no other ways 289 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,279 of getting involved in the independence movement. 290 00:16:39,319 --> 00:16:41,639 And everywhere across the country 291 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:44,639 where you have these activists gathering 292 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,440 they eventually become the first branches of Sinn Fein. 293 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,239 They're predominantly led by women. 294 00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:55,360 And the widows are really at the coalface of this organisation. 295 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Which is really important because you've got a moment 296 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,279 where things could have died. 297 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,519 It could have been successful, the executions and imprisonments, 298 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:04,800 they could have decapitated this movement. 299 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,119 Do they bring in new people? 300 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,480 One thing that Kathleen Clark does is she hires an administrator. 301 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,199 And Aine Ceannt is also involved in this decision. 302 00:17:14,199 --> 00:17:16,559 And the person they choose is Michael Collins. 303 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,879 Michael Collins had been released from prison at Christmas. 304 00:17:21,879 --> 00:17:23,800 He has IRB backgrounds. 305 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,519 The decision to hire Michael Collins is really key 306 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:28,800 to his development as a national figure. 307 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,279 It's the first time he really lives and works in Dublin 308 00:17:31,319 --> 00:17:34,720 and really gets access to this independence movement. 309 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,319 Had Kathleen Clark not wanted to hire him, 310 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,239 he would not have gotten that position 311 00:17:39,239 --> 00:17:41,720 and we don't know how he would have ended up. 312 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:54,040 (EARNER-BYRNE) Kathleen was to pay a further personal price 313 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,638 for the huge workload she took on in the wake of the Rising. 314 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,239 Years later when she was asked what was the first thing you did 315 00:18:02,239 --> 00:18:03,839 after the 1916 Rising, 316 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:07,000 Kathleen Clark answered simply, "I lost a child." 317 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,638 She already had three small boys by 1916 318 00:18:13,638 --> 00:18:16,680 and in August of that year, quite late in her pregnancy, 319 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,839 she miscarried the child that she hadn't told her husband about. 320 00:18:19,839 --> 00:18:23,839 She simply said, "I didn't want to add to his burden or worry." 321 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:26,279 It's interesting that that is what stayed with her, 322 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:30,160 it wasn't the fundraising that she threw herself into, 323 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,279 it wasn't the drive to survive. 324 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:35,359 It wasn't the role she played in the really important task 325 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,559 of rebuilding the nationalist movement, 326 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:39,879 it was the fact that she'd lost a child. 327 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,239 (EARNER―BYRNE) Someone else who may have lost a child 328 00:18:46,239 --> 00:18:48,599 in the aftermath of the Rising was Grace Plunkett. 329 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,000 (O'KEEFFE) Grace Plunkett's sister-in-law alleged 330 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,239 that she suffered a miscarriage at Larkfield, 331 00:18:54,239 --> 00:18:57,119 the Plunkett family home in Kimmage after the 1916 Rising. 332 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,080 Grace and Joe had only been married for a couple of hours 333 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,680 before he was executed. 334 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,080 There was no unsupervised opportunity 335 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,400 to consummate the marriage 336 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,760 so if she was pregnant, it was before the 1916 Rising, 337 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,319 and before they were married. 338 00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:21,040 I don't think that it's possible to substantiate that rumour 339 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,638 that Grace was pregnant. The only source was Geraldine Plunkett. 340 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,160 I don't think there was very much love lost between those two women. 341 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,119 But if it was true, it would have had significant ramifications 342 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,638 for Grace's moral standing in the community. 343 00:19:35,638 --> 00:19:38,239 It would have meant the relationship was consummated 344 00:19:38,239 --> 00:19:39,919 before the wedding. 345 00:19:39,919 --> 00:19:42,839 But it would have also meant that that marriage 346 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:45,760 had much greater significance for both of them. 347 00:19:46,638 --> 00:19:49,480 It would have meant that it was vital for Grace to get married 348 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,080 before Joseph's execution 349 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,160 as unmarried mothers in those days were particularly vulnerable. 350 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,680 They often lost the support of their families, 351 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,000 their claim to being respectable and their social status, 352 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,319 making it even harder to survive on their own. 353 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:06,919 A last minute wedding in Kilmainham on the eve 354 00:20:06,919 --> 00:20:10,839 of Joseph's execution could have been a way for Grace to avoid such a fate. 355 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,599 (SEAGULLS CRY) 356 00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:31,279 In 1917, the National Aid Committee 357 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:34,638 paid for a holiday in Skerries for several of the 1916 widows 358 00:20:34,638 --> 00:20:36,040 and their families. 359 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,599 Present were Agnes Mallin and her children, 360 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:42,720 Lily Connolly and her children, Aine Ceannt and her son, 361 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,080 Muriel MacDonagh and her daughter, as well as Grace Plunkett. 362 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,040 While there, tragedy struck Muriel. 363 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,319 (MCCOOLE) She went swimming. 364 00:20:56,319 --> 00:20:58,720 Although Muriel is a really, really strong swimmer, 365 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,080 had won awards for long distance swimming, 366 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,119 the area of Skerries is notorious for currents 367 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,319 and she was trying to get out to the island, 368 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:10,080 she'd been told by others not to go to the island. 369 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,839 Grace raised the alarm very quickly because one of the children 370 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:15,199 Seamus Mallin had run back to the house. 371 00:21:15,199 --> 00:21:19,040 So it was very immediate and they were very alarmed from the outset. 372 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,119 But unfortunately, when the boat went 373 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,040 there was no sign of her, and tragically, 374 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,319 her body was washed up the next morning 375 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:28,559 and obviously, she had drowned. 376 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:29,959 It all happened so quickly. 377 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,839 Even with all the families there, 378 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:33,919 it must have had such an impact on them all, 379 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:36,559 but most of all, of course, Barbara, her little daughter, 380 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:39,080 and Donagh, her son who was in hospital at the time. 381 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,800 What happened to them afterwards? 382 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:43,839 The story I recall first and foremost 383 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:48,919 is that Don was lifted up to the window in the hospital 384 00:21:48,919 --> 00:21:51,160 and he remembers looking out of the window 385 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,800 and seeing horses with the black plumes dancing on their head. 386 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,879 Years later it came back to him 387 00:21:57,879 --> 00:22:00,400 that he was watching his mother's funeral. 388 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,239 After the MacDonagh children were orphaned 389 00:22:05,239 --> 00:22:07,359 due to the execution of their father 390 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,519 and the subsequent drowning of their mother 391 00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:12,720 the National Aid Committee became involved in their welfare. 392 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,359 Largely as a result of something that Thomas MacDonagh 393 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,279 had written when he declared, 394 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:20,400 "My beloved Muriel and my beloved children, 395 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,080 my country then will treat them as wards. I hope." 396 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:29,119 The National Aid Committee was the same fundraising organisation 397 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,760 that was set up to look after the families of those who fought in 1916. 398 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,480 It decided to take a very literal approach to MacDonagh's words. 399 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,359 (MCCOOLE) In his last letter, 400 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,599 Thomas MacDonagh has used the term "wards of the nation." 401 00:22:42,638 --> 00:22:47,359 And this phrase that he uses because he's using it the context 402 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,160 that he hasn't made much money and so he's making the case 403 00:22:50,199 --> 00:22:56,239 for them to be looked after by the wider nationalist community. 404 00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:59,720 But instead, the National Aid set up a committee 405 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,680 to look into who's going to look after these children. 406 00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:08,440 The issue of who the MacDonagh children should live with 407 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,959 was complicated by religion. 408 00:23:09,959 --> 00:23:13,319 Muriel's family was Protestant, while the MacDonaghs were Catholic. 409 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:15,720 At the time, sending Catholic children, 410 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,279 especially the children of a dead nationalist hero 411 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:21,559 to Protestant families was highly disapproved of. 412 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,720 And then it becomes a pull and push between both sides of the family. 413 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,319 And the children are moved from place to place, you know? 414 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,319 Their lives are turned upside-down 415 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:36,680 by almost the possession of them by the nation. 416 00:23:39,199 --> 00:23:42,080 This was during a period when religion was assuming 417 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,000 an ever increasing importance. 418 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,720 This is illustrated by the fact 419 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,638 that every single one of the Easter widows 420 00:23:47,638 --> 00:23:49,519 ended up Roman Catholic. 421 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Four of the Easter widows were initially Protestant 422 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,680 and all four converted to Catholicism. 423 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,599 Maud Gonne MacBride converted in 1903, 424 00:23:58,599 --> 00:24:01,239 just prior to her marriage to John MacBride. 425 00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:04,080 And she wrote to WB Yeats about that time describing herself 426 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,440 as an "Irishwoman." 427 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,480 She said, "I want to look at the truth through the same prism 428 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,239 as my country people. I wanted to convert to Catholicism." 429 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,879 In the case of Grace Gifford, 430 00:24:13,879 --> 00:24:17,000 from the unionist/loyalist Gifford family, 431 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,400 her conversion happened just prior to her wedding 432 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,000 to Joe Plunkett in 1916. 433 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Lily Connolly converted to Catholicism in August 1916. 434 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,359 In her case, she was fulfilling the deathbed wish of her husband. 435 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,959 The last of the widows who converted to Catholicism was Muriel MacDonagh. 436 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,599 In her case it was May 1917, 437 00:24:35,638 --> 00:24:39,239 poignantly, the first anniversary of her husband's execution. 438 00:24:39,239 --> 00:24:43,119 In many ways, they were embracing the faith of their executed husbands 439 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,199 but more than that, it underlined the increasing association, 440 00:24:47,199 --> 00:24:51,199 intertwining of nationalism and Catholicism around this time. 441 00:25:02,959 --> 00:25:06,040 (EARNER―BYRNE) In 1917, things changed for many of the women 442 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,279 involved in the nationalist movement, including some of the 1916 widows. 443 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,519 Many of the men who had been imprisoned in England 444 00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:16,879 after the Rising began to return home changing the status quo. 445 00:25:19,239 --> 00:25:24,000 So while the Proclamation in 1916 had the promise of equality, 446 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,800 and gender equality for women and men in it, 447 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,000 after many of the men begin returning home in 1917, 448 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,400 it becomes apparent to a lot of the women 449 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,480 that they're going to have to advocate for themselves. 450 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,279 The men of the political movement are coming back 451 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:42,080 and the women are fighting really hard to say 452 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800 we're also part of the political movement. 453 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:48,760 (MCAULIFFE) In the General Election of 1918, 454 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,239 the first election with women voters, 455 00:25:51,239 --> 00:25:55,638 albeit over 30 with certain property qualifications, 456 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,599 Kathleen Clark really wanted to run as a Sinn Fein candidate. 457 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,359 But she is stymied by the men. 458 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,800 The men wanted to put in the men that are still in prison 459 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,359 and the male heroes of 1916 into those seats 460 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,440 and Kathleen was side-lined. 461 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,400 And you begin to see this is happening again and again 462 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,040 that side-lining of the women. 463 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,279 And so even a widow, like Kathleen Clark 464 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:22,519 has to battle for her position. 465 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:28,480 (EARNER-BYRNE) This pushing out of women from the public sphere 466 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,040 was a theme that would continue into the new Irish Free State. 467 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,720 But first, Ireland had to win her independence from Britain. 468 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,319 In 1919, the War of Independence broke out in Ireland. 469 00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:48,800 The Republican forces were determined to carry on what was begun in 1916 470 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:53,319 and strike a decisive blow against the British Crown forces in Ireland. 471 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,559 During the War of Independence what happened to these families, 472 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,440 to the women, to Kathleen Clark and her children 473 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,919 and the other widows during this period? 474 00:27:04,919 --> 00:27:08,519 How active were they and how difficult was that period for them? 475 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:13,599 It's women who've come from a more political background 476 00:27:13,638 --> 00:27:17,199 that are the ones that have become more involved. 477 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,879 Like Kathleen Clark, who's a justice 478 00:27:20,879 --> 00:27:23,440 in the Republican Court, for example. 479 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,919 She's also a member of the second Dail. 480 00:27:25,959 --> 00:27:30,919 You've got Aine Ceannt living with her sister Lily. 481 00:27:30,959 --> 00:27:35,599 Their house in Oakley Road must have put up half the men, 482 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,800 the prominent men in the movement, they gave safe houses all the time. 483 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,559 And they, of course, are well known for having done that. 484 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,879 Grace Plunkett is much more somebody 485 00:27:47,879 --> 00:27:50,720 who hasn't been particularly active, but what she is 486 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,480 is a very skilled artist and cartoonist. 487 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:57,040 And that's her talent, and that's what she's used 488 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,559 during the War of Independence to great effect. 489 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:02,199 In terms of propaganda. 490 00:28:02,199 --> 00:28:04,680 As part of the propaganda movement. 491 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:10,519 Lily Connolly is elected in the local government elections in 1920 492 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:14,400 and becomes a local government councillor for a period of time, 493 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,959 but really, is never involved in the movement. 494 00:28:18,959 --> 00:28:21,599 She's got young children to look after, 495 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,638 and I think a lot of her time is based on survival. 496 00:28:25,638 --> 00:28:28,638 She gets money and hopes to set up a boarding house 497 00:28:28,638 --> 00:28:31,359 in order to keep her and her family. 498 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,440 And that's really important. 499 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,800 That's quite a common thing for widows, boarding houses. 500 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:39,400 It's something that you can do where you live 501 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,279 and look after your children. 502 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760 A major feature of the War of Independence 503 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,319 were violent raids by the British Crown forces 504 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,400 on the homes of women and children. 505 00:28:58,919 --> 00:29:01,080 The first thing the family would hear 506 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,319 would be a loud bang on the door 507 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,599 and that would quickly be followed by armed men entering the home 508 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,639 pushing and physically assaulting the people inside, 509 00:29:10,639 --> 00:29:13,319 who invariably were women and children. 510 00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:17,040 Smashing up the house. Highly personalised attacks. 511 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,720 Mementoes of their husbands being taken. 512 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480 So every time the loud bang came on the door, 513 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,400 there was of course the anxiety, there was of course the worry. 514 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Is that the time you're going to get killed yourself 515 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,760 and your children left without you, having already lost their father. 516 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,199 The Crown forces knew who they were raiding. 517 00:29:35,239 --> 00:29:39,760 They knew these were the widows of the Easter Rising's leaders. 518 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,559 And that was played out in the way in which these attacks happened. 519 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,599 (COLEMAN) The home of Eamonn Ceannt's widow 520 00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:50,160 was raided by the Auxiliaries in February 1921. 521 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,199 They took away Sinn Fein flags, 522 00:29:52,199 --> 00:29:55,519 they took away what they described as seditious literature. 523 00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:57,839 They also took away what were described in a report 524 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,639 as musical pipes. I take that to be Eamonn Ceannt's uilleann pipes. 525 00:30:01,639 --> 00:30:04,680 But it must have been quite emotionally traumatic for her 526 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400 to have these belongings, these, I suppose, 527 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,040 relics she had of her husband taken from her 528 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,440 by the Crown forces for no reason. 529 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,319 What did they think these were? Some sort of weapon or something? 530 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,839 Even women like Agnes Mallin who isn't involved 531 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,959 is raided several times. 532 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,720 And the fact that she has the memorabilia 533 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,279 from Michael Mallin's time in the British Army 534 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,599 like his ceremonial sword. 535 00:30:31,639 --> 00:30:37,080 Things that they're trying to hide, things they don't want taken away 536 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,160 because they're keepsakes and mementoes, 537 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,879 so just because you're not involved doesn't mean... 538 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:46,599 You're not targeted. ...you're not going to be harassed. 539 00:30:46,639 --> 00:30:49,400 Because you're a name. 540 00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:54,800 You know for the widows who had young teenage sons 541 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,120 there was, of course, the danger that they would be killed. 542 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,480 People had been killed during raids on multiple occasions. 543 00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,879 Sometimes, ten times in the one week, there would be violent raids 544 00:31:05,879 --> 00:31:07,160 on these homes. 545 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,400 So it was this almost inexorable punishment for the widows 546 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120 of the Easter Rising leaders and their families 547 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,440 that really continued throughout the whole War of Independence. 548 00:31:21,639 --> 00:31:23,639 . 549 00:31:28,919 --> 00:31:30,959 (EARNER-BYRNE) The War of Independence ended 550 00:31:30,959 --> 00:31:34,599 with an offer of a treaty by the British in December 1921. 551 00:31:34,639 --> 00:31:37,839 This treaty offered Ireland the status of self-governing dominion 552 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,480 but not a full republic as declared in 1916. 553 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,080 Immediately, this treaty caused outrage among many nationalists 554 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,319 including the widows of 1916. 555 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:56,680 The attitude of the widows of 1916 was one of horror and rejection 556 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,919 and disbelief. They had fought so hard to get so far 557 00:32:00,959 --> 00:32:03,279 and now, as far as they were concerned, 558 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,239 their leaders, who were all men, were selling them out. 559 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,760 I think that they were very much dedicated to upholding the ideas 560 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680 of the Easter Rising and the Proclamation. 561 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160 All of their husbands had gone out to fight for those ideals. 562 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,319 Many of them had been executed 563 00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:21,239 after putting their names onto the proclamation 564 00:32:21,239 --> 00:32:23,839 which promised full sovereign independence 565 00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:28,000 and equality, basically, across religion and gender lines. 566 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,000 And so I think that they took those ideals very seriously. 567 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:37,360 All of the women say that they were not fighting for dominion status 568 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,639 they weren't fighting to be part of the British empire. 569 00:32:40,639 --> 00:32:43,000 They were fighting for a republic 570 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,440 that was going to give them equal rights, 571 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,199 equal opportunities, equal suffrage 572 00:32:49,199 --> 00:32:51,760 and that was what was so important to them. 573 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,319 Pro-treaty political leaders, basically, tried to pigeonhole 574 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,639 the women as hysterical, as bloodthirsty, 575 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,120 as demanding vengeance. 576 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,000 Essentially being irrational, that's how they explain it. 577 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Here's a quote from PS O'Hegarty who's a real prominent supporter 578 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,080 of the pro-treaty side. He said, 579 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,480 "They have become practically unsexed, 580 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:20,360 their mothers' milk blackened to make gunpowder. 581 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,319 Their minds working on nothing save hate and blood." 582 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,599 Wow. So it really gives you a flavour of this visceral reaction 583 00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:33,199 to the women and this idea that somehow it's their gender 584 00:33:33,199 --> 00:33:34,440 which is irrational. 585 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,639 But what's actually going on, do you think there? 586 00:33:37,639 --> 00:33:42,000 What they're doing is they're taking their status as widows 587 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,800 and basically saying that they can't possibly be rational 588 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:48,040 because of this loss they've suffered. 589 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,040 It's a real neat political trick 590 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,120 to take your opponent's greatest strength 591 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,199 and turn it into their greatest weakness. 592 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,040 (EARNER-BYRNE) Civil war broke out in 1922 593 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,360 between the pro-treaty Free State forces 594 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,518 and anti-treaty Republicans. 595 00:34:09,518 --> 00:34:12,760 All the widows of the men executed in 1916 596 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279 took the anti-treaty Republican side. 597 00:34:15,279 --> 00:34:18,360 And immediately began to pay the price for it. 598 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,680 (O'KEEFFE) Maud Gonne MacBride, Kathleen Clark 599 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,040 and Grace Plunkett were all arrested at various stages in 1923. 600 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,879 Maud Gonne famously went on a 20-day hunger strike. 601 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:35,959 And Grace Plunkett, who was arrested in February 1923, 602 00:34:35,959 --> 00:34:37,800 was lodged in Kilmainham Gaol, 603 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,839 the very place where she'd been married seven years before, 604 00:34:40,839 --> 00:34:44,080 the very place her husband had faced an execution squad. 605 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,000 Many of the children of the 1916 widows were by this stage 606 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440 old enough to take part in the anti-treaty side 607 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,000 against the Free State. 608 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,199 They too were arrested at a time when the Free State 609 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:57,879 was starting to execute prisoners 610 00:34:57,879 --> 00:35:01,160 in reprisal for attacks on their forces. 611 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,639 Seamus Mallin is the son of Michael Mallin. 612 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,518 He's the son of Agnes Mallin. 613 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:06,959 He's arrested. 614 00:35:06,959 --> 00:35:09,199 Sean MacBride is the son of Major John MacBride, 615 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,760 the son of Maud Gonne. He's arrested. 616 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,120 Ina Connolly, Nora Connolly, Roddy Connolly, 617 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,400 the children of James Connolly and Lily Connolly, they're arrested. 618 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,639 And all of those people are subject to potential execution. 619 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,120 We know that Sean MacBride could have been executed 620 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,360 but for a decision by the Free State that it would backfire on them 621 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,080 to execute the son of an Easter Rising leader. 622 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,879 The same with Seamus Mallin. 623 00:35:37,879 --> 00:35:40,680 But that didn't do anything to allay the fears 624 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,080 of their mothers during that time. 625 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,239 So there's a tremendous irony in the experience 626 00:35:45,279 --> 00:35:48,719 of the widows of 1916 across the entire revolutionary period 627 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,360 because all of the widows of the 1916 leaders 628 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,120 take an anti-treaty position. 629 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,120 It is remarkable how quick the pivot comes 630 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,120 and they now become enemies of the state. 631 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160 They become enemies of the state that, in many ways, 632 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,239 was born out of the sacrifices of their husbands. 633 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,000 They become enemies of the state that continues to invoke 634 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,400 the names and the memories of their husbands 635 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,120 while viciously attacking their widows. 636 00:36:23,959 --> 00:36:26,839 (EARNER-BYRNE) The Civil War ended in 1923 637 00:36:26,839 --> 00:36:28,760 with the Free State forces winning. 638 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,639 However, they now faced the challenge of building a new state. 639 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,559 The new Irish state like many others struggled with a real increase 640 00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:42,040 in widows and orphans after almost a decade of conflict. 641 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,400 Indeed, many Irish contemporaries saw how the state 642 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,680 was going to treat widows as a test of what kind of country it was to be. 643 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,480 As one official commented towards the end of the 1920, 644 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,000 it was a real source of shame to see Irish widows 645 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,919 parading their poverty. Forced to beg from charities 646 00:36:56,919 --> 00:37:00,360 and various sources to scrape together an income. 647 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,160 We know that widows were the single biggest category in need 648 00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:05,080 in the new Irish state. 649 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,639 But we also know that the assistance they received 650 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,919 was rarely enough and often ungenerously given. 651 00:37:13,319 --> 00:37:16,480 The evidence for the new Free State's first attempts 652 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,559 to deal with the problem are found 653 00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:20,879 in the Military Service Pensions collection 654 00:37:20,879 --> 00:37:23,440 in the Military Archives in Dublin. 655 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,919 The Military Service Pension collection is an archive 656 00:37:25,919 --> 00:37:28,800 of interrelated administrative file series 657 00:37:28,839 --> 00:37:32,518 recognising the service of those who fought 658 00:37:32,518 --> 00:37:34,760 during the Irish Revolutionary period. 659 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,199 It is the biggest collection in existence 660 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:39,400 covering that period of time. 661 00:37:40,879 --> 00:37:45,639 Starting in 1923, the Irish Free State enacted a series of legislation 662 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:48,959 that granted pensions to certain people who were wounded 663 00:37:48,959 --> 00:37:52,800 and the dependents of people who were killed during the Irish Revolution. 664 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,000 Qualifying for a pension was often quite difficult. 665 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,239 The difficulty in getting pensions is really set 666 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,199 by the restrictive nature of the legislation. 667 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,000 There's not a lot of money to go around. 668 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,800 You know, the Irish Free State starts poor. 669 00:38:08,839 --> 00:38:13,199 You can see that had a pension been given to everyone, 670 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,518 the spending would have been completely out of control. 671 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,760 We were, and I quote here, these are not my words, 672 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,480 "If we were to give a pension to everyone who served a cup of tea 673 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,599 during the War of Independence it would be untenable." 674 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,199 So they are restricted. 675 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:33,080 Many applicants had to go through a difficult process 676 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680 to prove their military service, their financial circumstances, 677 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,239 and that they were who they said they were. 678 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,719 There were often long delays 679 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,919 before an application was rejected or approved. 680 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,559 For the widows of the dead in 1916, 681 00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:57,319 they are set apart from the very beginning. 682 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,839 Yet there are still delays, there are still frustrations. 683 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,719 We have a letter on the James Connolly file 684 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,319 from General Mulcahy who was then minister for defence, 685 00:39:06,319 --> 00:39:10,040 basically, why is it taking so long? 686 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319 And I quote, "It shouldn't take one day 687 00:39:12,319 --> 00:39:14,680 to verify that James Connolly died in 1916. 688 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,440 And it shouldn't take one day to verify that Lily Connolly 689 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,239 is his widow." What's the wait? 690 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,599 So the frustration is there also on their side. 691 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:26,360 But it is a lot more straightforward. 692 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:39,959 The pension process was more complicated for Agnes Mallin. 693 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,839 Even though her husband Michael Mallin was executed 694 00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:45,279 in the aftermath of the 1916 Rising, 695 00:39:45,279 --> 00:39:48,080 he hadn't actually signed the Proclamation. 696 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,919 As a result, Agnes and her family were treated differently 697 00:39:50,919 --> 00:39:53,559 to the widows and families of those who did sign 698 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:55,760 and she got less money as a result. 699 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,518 The signatories were ones who were singled out 700 00:40:02,518 --> 00:40:06,199 as being the widows of the nation, if you like, 701 00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:10,480 and the ones who got more compensation 702 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719 for the death of their husbands. 703 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,440 So it wasn't really based necessarily on need, 704 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,480 but on the, kind of, status. 705 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,719 Agnes Mallin had a really difficult time. 706 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,440 She had very little money. 707 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,719 Later on, she does work, you know, she works as a night nurse, 708 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,559 she works as a school truancy officer 709 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,160 but she's always, throughout her later life, 710 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,199 in difficulty for money. 711 00:40:38,518 --> 00:40:42,760 While we know quite a lot about what happened to Lily, Grace, Aine, 712 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,080 and the other widows 713 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,680 because they were the widows of the men executed 714 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,040 after the 1916 Rising, 715 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,080 what about the thousands of other women 716 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,000 who became widows during this period? 717 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,518 What were their experiences, losing their breadwinner 718 00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,319 and possibly having small children to raise. 719 00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:01,000 The widows ran the risk if they asked for help 720 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,919 of having their children taken into care 721 00:41:02,919 --> 00:41:04,959 and possibly sent to an industrial school. 722 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,518 In the end, we can't know about all these stories 723 00:41:07,518 --> 00:41:11,639 but the stories of the 1916 widows give us at least an insight 724 00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:15,518 into the human dimension of bereavement during the early decades 725 00:41:15,518 --> 00:41:16,719 of the 20th century. 726 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,360 (SOMBRE MUSIC) 727 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,080 During its early years, the new Free State 728 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,518 had to grapple with a lot of instability. 729 00:41:35,518 --> 00:41:38,279 It needed to restore order as quickly as possible 730 00:41:38,279 --> 00:41:42,440 and it also need to assert what its new identity was going to be. 731 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,639 In terms of morality, for example, and behaviour, 732 00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:54,120 what sort of sense do you get about what people were expecting 733 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,719 or hoping for from the Free State? 734 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,879 The Free State had to reassure the conservative elements in society, 735 00:42:00,879 --> 00:42:04,440 the church, the morality you've traditionally upheld 736 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,199 is our morality, we're determined to do the same 737 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,879 we'll be a lot better than the Brits ever were at this. 738 00:42:09,919 --> 00:42:12,879 Like any nationality, the Irish people thought they were better 739 00:42:12,879 --> 00:42:15,680 than anybody else, and certainly better than the English. 740 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,800 And the English, you know, had this Anglo-Saxon materialism. 741 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,279 And they were very corrupt, they had very low morals. 742 00:42:23,279 --> 00:42:26,959 One of the ways the new Free State differentiated itself 743 00:42:26,959 --> 00:42:29,959 was by leaning more into Catholic ideology. 744 00:42:29,959 --> 00:42:32,120 This impacted in several ways. 745 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,040 Increasingly, nationalist and Catholic identities 746 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,680 were becoming one and the same thing. 747 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,040 And central to maintaining this identity 748 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,000 was a particular idea of the family. 749 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,080 (BUCKLEY) The new Irish Free State was very much centred on the family. 750 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,559 And there was a particular type of family 751 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,400 where there's a male breadwinner 752 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,879 and women are primarily within the home. 753 00:42:54,879 --> 00:42:58,518 And the way that that is endorsed is through legislation 754 00:42:58,518 --> 00:43:01,480 which is really influenced by Catholic social teaching. 755 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,040 So divorce is made illegal, even though it had not really 756 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,080 been an option for many women and men prior to that. 757 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,239 Women's bodies and their reproductive rights 758 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,800 are being curtailed. 759 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,400 Laws are used to ban the sale of contraceptives. 760 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,559 What this is doing is curtailing women and it's putting forward 761 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,680 a very idealised version of the Irish family. 762 00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:28,440 And so, the Free State that is setup is very conservative, 763 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,319 social values are predicated on class and middle-class values. 764 00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:35,360 For the widows of 1916, 765 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,959 and for all of the political women who had campaigned 766 00:43:37,959 --> 00:43:42,879 through cultural nationalism, feminism, militant nationalism, 767 00:43:42,879 --> 00:43:45,279 this Free State is not the state they wanted. 768 00:43:45,279 --> 00:43:47,120 This is not the state they had fought for. 769 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,599 In many ways, the state that came into being 770 00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,400 was a huge disappointment to them. 771 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,160 But a lot of them realised that they have to continue fighting 772 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,879 and they do that differently. 773 00:43:58,879 --> 00:44:03,040 They do it as social activism, they do it through local politics. 774 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,639 They do it through campaigns on healthcare, 775 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,360 on social housing. 776 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,518 And then you have women like Kathleen Clark 777 00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,000 who do it through national politics. 778 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,879 Firstly as a TD, and then in the Senate. 779 00:44:16,919 --> 00:44:20,959 And she consistently is a voice 780 00:44:20,959 --> 00:44:23,599 harking back to the Proclamation of 1916. 781 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,719 And I think for a lot of the women, we come back to that again and again 782 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,959 and that promise of equality, 783 00:44:28,959 --> 00:44:31,760 that promise of a republic of equality. 784 00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,719 Despite the efforts to push them out of the public sphere, 785 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,000 and relegate all women to the home, 786 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,440 many women campaigned on, especially in the area of social care. 787 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,800 Some of their efforts paid off, 788 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,040 and in 1935, the Irish government finally enacted legislation 789 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,040 designed to provide financial assistance to all qualifying widows. 790 00:45:08,959 --> 00:45:12,719 So, Orlaith, we have the 1935 Pension Act there 791 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,040 introduced by the Widows and Orphans of Ireland. 792 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,080 What difference did it make to them? Was it a very generous scheme? 793 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,080 It wasn't a very generous scheme, it was 10 shillings a week, 794 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,319 but in a way, it was, for many women, 795 00:45:25,319 --> 00:45:29,800 a liberation from, you know, the hard slog that it was 796 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,400 when they had to go from charity to charity, small job to small job 797 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,719 to small job. 798 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,959 It created a foundation whereby it was never going to be enough, 799 00:45:37,959 --> 00:45:41,279 and I think it was such, that it would never be enough 800 00:45:41,279 --> 00:45:43,199 and they'd have to supplement their income. 801 00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:46,559 But in a way, it created some kind of a solid basis 802 00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:48,400 whereby they could ensure 803 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,199 that there was food on the table for their children. 804 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,719 This, in many ways, is the culmination of those female voices 805 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,000 and those female activists after the revolutionary period 806 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,279 who continued to be activists, albeit in the realm of social care 807 00:46:06,279 --> 00:46:08,800 and social reform. 808 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,400 This Act is the state's demonstration 809 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,120 of its recognition of what went before 810 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,919 but also of its responsibility to what will come afterwards 811 00:46:16,919 --> 00:46:19,360 in terms of supporting the most vulnerable 812 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,000 but in particular, our widows and orphans in Irish society. 813 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,559 The executed leaders of the Easter Rising 814 00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:41,400 will always be icons of modern Irish history. 815 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,080 But for the widows of the Easter Rising, 816 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,040 their execution was slow. 817 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,360 Their execution went on for years. 818 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,000 And they carried with them through all of that 819 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,279 their own personal grief and loss, 820 00:46:54,279 --> 00:46:57,919 their responsibility as lone parents, 821 00:46:57,919 --> 00:47:00,919 their responsibility for their own political commitment 822 00:47:00,919 --> 00:47:03,239 which was really important to them, and then, 823 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,000 this additional responsibility of being almost surrogates 824 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,239 for the symbolic presence of their husbands. 825 00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:20,959 These women's names should be as recognisable as their husbands'. 826 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,319 Lily Connolly, Kathleen Clark, 827 00:47:23,319 --> 00:47:26,239 Maud Gonne, Agnes Mallin, Aine Ceannt, 828 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,800 Muriel MacDonagh and Grace Plunkett. 829 00:47:28,839 --> 00:47:34,199 They are hugely important figures in Irish history in their own right. 830 00:47:36,279 --> 00:47:38,559 As the role of women in the Irish Free State 831 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:40,800 became increasingly contested, 832 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,719 the not insignificant contribution of the Easter widows 833 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,319 and other women like them was airbrushed out of history. 834 00:47:47,319 --> 00:47:50,959 The official record recording only the activities of their husbands 835 00:47:50,959 --> 00:47:53,279 and the other men who fought in the Rising. 836 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,199 The new Ireland that their husbands' deaths helped to create 837 00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:03,839 turned out to not really have a place for the widows of 1916 after all. 838 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:07,040 It didn't really have a place for any other women either. 839 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,400 The promise of equality as enshrined in the 1916 Proclamation 840 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,518 became an ongoing and unfinished project 841 00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:16,719 that still continues to this day. 842 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,919 When reflecting on her parents' role in history, 843 00:48:20,919 --> 00:48:23,040 Agnes Mallin's daughter once wrote, 844 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,719 "I've often thought it was my mother who was the heroic one." 845 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,120 A different definition of heroic than that we've come to associate 846 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,360 with the 1916 Rising, but every bit as true 847 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,279 when we consider the lives that these women lived, 848 00:48:36,279 --> 00:48:40,319 their sacrifices, resilience and courage. 849 00:48:40,319 --> 00:48:43,680 Perhaps it was every bit as brave for the widows 850 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,559 to keep on living for Ireland as it was for the men to die for it. 851 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,080 Subtitles by Iyuno-SDI Group 70406

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