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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,058 --> 00:00:12,918 if someone doesn't help me 2 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:16,530 help me I'm going to send some help 3 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:17,359 what's your name 4 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:21,399 [Music] 5 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:31,719 foreign 6 00:00:32,770 --> 00:00:33,290 [Music] 7 00:00:46,219 --> 00:00:48,709 April 26 2010 that's a day that we 8 00:00:49,679 --> 00:00:50,959 adopted in Italian 9 00:00:54,058 --> 00:00:56,828 by the time we get to the end of 2012 10 00:00:55,820 --> 00:00:58,210 we've been living with a sociopath 11 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:00,649 trying to kill us every day 12 00:01:01,630 --> 00:01:02,150 [Music] 13 00:01:03,198 --> 00:01:05,978 we don't know who she is we don't know 14 00:01:06,060 --> 00:01:08,840 how old she is she won't admit who she 15 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,640 is she won't tell us the truth of who 16 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:09,869 she is 17 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:13,319 doctors have told us jeez 18 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:17,369 she's nowhere near the age you were told 19 00:01:16,819 --> 00:01:19,499 and we've actually filed our motion at 20 00:01:19,438 --> 00:01:22,168 Marion County court for her case to be 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,440 heard to have her age corrected to 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,440 something more appropriate 23 00:01:26,579 --> 00:01:29,369 the judge had a petition prepared by an 24 00:01:30,060 --> 00:01:32,270 attorney that would lay out the 25 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:35,070 arguments for why this person is not a 26 00:01:35,819 --> 00:01:38,439 they believe she is actually an adult 27 00:01:37,618 --> 00:01:40,468 nobody knows quite what what age but she 28 00:01:41,759 --> 00:01:44,659 has not grown in four years so the judge 29 00:01:46,259 --> 00:01:49,109 came up with his own little formula well 30 00:01:48,299 --> 00:01:51,089 you stopped growing at 18 if she hasn't 31 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:53,490 grown in four years then she's at least 32 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:55,949 18 when she entered their lives and I'm 33 00:01:55,438 --> 00:01:57,468 gonna add four years he said 34 00:01:57,359 --> 00:01:58,449 I find you 22. 35 00:02:00,219 --> 00:02:00,739 [Music] 36 00:02:02,459 --> 00:02:05,349 at the time that she was re-aged I knew 37 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:08,159 she was adult did I know it was 18 22 35 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,330 39 00:02:09,899 --> 00:02:10,119 no 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,910 raging Is Not Unusual it does happen in 41 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:16,710 international adoptions 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,850 well yours might be shaved off the age 43 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:21,609 of the child because 44 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:24,469 more attractive to adoptive families the 45 00:02:24,060 --> 00:02:26,440 younger the child is and at least 46 00:02:26,699 --> 00:02:27,509 that belief 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,300 so 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,780 oh I can buy a couple of years right 49 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:34,949 like she's not really eight she's 10 or 50 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:35,600 11 or something 51 00:02:35,818 --> 00:02:38,598 but to jump 14 years to 22. it doesn't 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,310 make sense 53 00:02:41,818 --> 00:02:44,538 at the time of the re-aging there was 54 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:46,399 good solid documentation 55 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:51,150 an approximate age and she had a primary 56 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,910 care physician that looked at all of it 57 00:02:53,780 --> 00:02:56,230 and wrote provided evidence so that 58 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:00,219 doctor was looking at lots of other 59 00:02:59,818 --> 00:03:00,338 doctors 60 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:03,529 information and coming up with the 61 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:04,780 determination 62 00:03:05,340 --> 00:03:08,180 and then at that point when it's such a 63 00:03:07,378 --> 00:03:07,718 huge 64 00:03:08,519 --> 00:03:09,619 amount of years 65 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:13,520 you just have to say what makes the most 66 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,690 sense based upon the evidence and 67 00:03:14,349 --> 00:03:14,869 [Music] 68 00:03:16,318 --> 00:03:18,988 that it's in the best interest of the 69 00:03:17,699 --> 00:03:19,499 child to change their age 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,120 you know I'm not the doctor and I'm not 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,580 the judge but I felt like it was based 72 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:27,080 on something credible 73 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:26,999 [Music] 74 00:03:28,860 --> 00:03:31,710 to give her a new birth certificate with 75 00:03:31,019 --> 00:03:33,679 a new birth date they gave her a new 76 00:03:32,939 --> 00:03:35,509 Indiana ID she had everything changes 77 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:38,379 from a year of birth of 2003. 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,380 back it up 14 years to 1989 79 00:03:43,969 --> 00:03:44,489 [Music] 80 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:50,870 while I was at the hospital 81 00:03:51,180 --> 00:03:54,030 they signed paperwork and got me re-aged 82 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:57,510 so please tell me about that I don't 83 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:00,620 even know what to say about it guys I 84 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:03,640 don't know what happened yeah just come 85 00:04:02,459 --> 00:04:05,409 tell me what you know I just know that I 86 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,080 got out of the hospital 87 00:04:07,979 --> 00:04:10,179 and she got me of an apartment 88 00:04:10,979 --> 00:04:13,549 the barnetts were were very concerned 89 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:16,120 about having her back in their home 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,530 Christine wants to make sure she's got a 91 00:04:18,358 --> 00:04:19,688 good place to live 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,940 So Christine and her go out the next day 93 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:24,459 and they find her an apartment in 94 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:23,740 Westfield 95 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:31,009 Westfield Indiana is in Hamilton County 96 00:04:30,060 --> 00:04:32,690 Indiana Hamilton County Indiana is the 97 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,900 richest part of the states 98 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,690 it's a single floor apartment complex 99 00:04:40,259 --> 00:04:41,939 she's got a living room 100 00:04:41,819 --> 00:04:44,369 she's got a dining room she's got a 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,670 little eat-in kitchen 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,010 sign the lease they paid the first three 103 00:04:52,019 --> 00:04:53,119 months up front 104 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,410 moving day into Natalia's apartment and 105 00:04:56,939 --> 00:04:59,559 I know we gave Natalia some furniture 106 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:00,250 out of our home 107 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:03,059 we got groceries for her 108 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,629 and it was just it's pretty basic stuff 109 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:08,850 there's not a lot of tail that's hell 110 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:08,260 there 111 00:05:09,418 --> 00:05:10,338 I think that 112 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,129 um Christine didn't know what to do with 113 00:05:12,660 --> 00:05:13,180 Natalia 114 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:16,880 so why not put her in an apartment and 115 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:17,059 say she's 22. 116 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:21,919 [Music] 117 00:05:28,699 --> 00:05:31,599 I'm Sue McCollum and I was a neighbor to 118 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,780 Natalia when we lived in the Westfield 119 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:34,899 Apartments 120 00:05:36,418 --> 00:05:36,758 okay 121 00:05:39,709 --> 00:05:40,229 [Music] 122 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,789 I just met her by accident one day I see 123 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:49,120 her mom sitting out all her grocery 124 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,100 sacks on the sidewalk and I thought 125 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:53,730 backwards to me and I thought my gosh 126 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:55,969 that poor little girl from carrying 127 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:57,799 those groceries in so I went up there I 128 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,140 was going to the mailbox and I said well 129 00:05:59,699 --> 00:06:02,479 honey do you need some help and I said 130 00:06:01,978 --> 00:06:04,658 where's your mom and she turned around 131 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:04,290 she said 132 00:06:05,038 --> 00:06:07,758 I'm 22. I expect her to have you know 133 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,390 young but she's not she was her adult 134 00:06:12,060 --> 00:06:14,670 you could tell by looking at her and 135 00:06:14,699 --> 00:06:17,539 well her mom had a Cadillac and she was 136 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,680 sitting in her Cadillac well I was 137 00:06:19,978 --> 00:06:22,368 helping her carry the groceries in 138 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:24,040 because she just left them on the 139 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,660 sidewalk and left them and just sat 140 00:06:25,918 --> 00:06:28,708 there and watched us carried in and she 141 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:31,289 didn't even roll down the window and say 142 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:32,510 thanks for helping her or nothing 143 00:06:31,918 --> 00:06:34,538 nothing she just sit there and looked 144 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,230 and then 145 00:06:34,860 --> 00:06:35,490 took off 146 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,740 I thought it was rude because Natalia 147 00:06:39,418 --> 00:06:39,998 couldn't 148 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:43,470 hardly open the darn front door you know 149 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:44,940 work the can get in 150 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,320 so I took him in and carried him into 151 00:06:48,180 --> 00:06:51,020 the kitchen Fort and so you know I took 152 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,069 her to the grocery store a couple times 153 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:55,599 and 154 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:59,059 he was also on food stamps she had a 155 00:06:59,220 --> 00:07:02,000 food stamp card when I take her to the 156 00:07:00,959 --> 00:07:01,889 grocery store 157 00:07:02,819 --> 00:07:05,539 and I thought well if you can drive a 158 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,540 Cadillac why can't you take better care 159 00:07:06,478 --> 00:07:06,988 of her 160 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,560 [Music] 161 00:07:19,259 --> 00:07:20,589 my name is Melanie 162 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,860 my husband and I were both Italians 163 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,050 Neighbors in Westfield Indiana 164 00:07:28,019 --> 00:07:30,859 the first time I met Natalia I think it 165 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:32,489 was just my wife and I were planning 166 00:07:31,139 --> 00:07:32,009 some flowers 167 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,900 she just came running across the street 168 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:40,159 and you know I remember my wife and I 169 00:07:39,598 --> 00:07:40,058 looked 170 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:46,340 at what's going on here and at first it 171 00:07:45,478 --> 00:07:48,098 stressed me out because I thought she 172 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,240 was just a little kid crossing the 173 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,100 street and then she came over and 174 00:07:51,779 --> 00:07:53,289 started talking to us 175 00:07:53,699 --> 00:07:53,979 and 176 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:57,890 you know definitely wasn't a child 177 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:58,780 um 178 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:00,669 it was super nice 179 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,360 expressed herself well and yeah just was 180 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,370 being friendly with us she introduced 181 00:08:06,959 --> 00:08:09,689 herself she sits right now starts up a 182 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,629 conversation like we've been friends for 183 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:11,140 years 184 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:14,460 and that didn't bother me 185 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:15,920 at the time 186 00:08:17,519 --> 00:08:18,379 at the time 187 00:08:19,149 --> 00:08:19,669 [Music] 188 00:08:32,219 --> 00:08:34,709 my name is Andrew rice I'm an auto 189 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,379 mechanic ASE Master Certified mechanic 190 00:08:39,418 --> 00:08:42,028 I used to live on Catherine Drive in 191 00:08:41,580 --> 00:08:42,750 Westfield Indiana 192 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:47,560 today my grandson was in the driveway 193 00:08:46,980 --> 00:08:47,500 playing 194 00:08:48,179 --> 00:08:49,919 was about 60 degrees out 195 00:08:50,580 --> 00:08:53,530 and my wife went in the house for just a 196 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:55,709 moment and I followed her in and then 197 00:08:54,778 --> 00:08:57,678 when I looked out the window there was a 198 00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:59,440 little person walking up our into our 199 00:08:59,220 --> 00:09:01,600 yard up toward our garage and she 200 00:09:01,980 --> 00:09:04,720 started talking to my grandson and they 201 00:09:03,539 --> 00:09:06,049 started playing in the driveway they 202 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:07,669 were riding the electric motorcycle up 203 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,760 and down the driveway and having races 204 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,060 mark 205 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:12,500 get set go 206 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:15,130 go go go go 207 00:09:18,659 --> 00:09:21,399 my first impression of Natalia was that 208 00:09:21,139 --> 00:09:23,459 she was a little person I didn't 209 00:09:24,059 --> 00:09:26,619 necessarily think she was a child at 210 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:25,840 first 211 00:09:26,339 --> 00:09:28,939 and as we got to speak with her she 212 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,419 actually admitted that she was 26 years 213 00:09:30,179 --> 00:09:32,959 old at that point and she told us that 214 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:35,319 she lived in the apartments down the 215 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,770 street which were only 216 00:09:36,299 --> 00:09:39,039 two three houses down across the street 217 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:54,699 but as the sun started to set it started 218 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,380 to cool down a little bit and 219 00:09:55,980 --> 00:09:58,650 tell you didn't have a jacket on that 220 00:09:57,539 --> 00:10:00,439 day and we were jacking it up because it 221 00:09:59,339 --> 00:10:00,389 started getting 222 00:10:00,899 --> 00:10:01,479 together 223 00:10:04,278 --> 00:10:07,128 it also seemed like she hadn't done some 224 00:10:07,259 --> 00:10:09,939 of the basic hygienic things that most 225 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:11,669 people would normally do her hair was a 226 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:13,730 little bit dirty and there was 227 00:10:14,879 --> 00:10:17,129 for a lack of a better word an 228 00:10:16,259 --> 00:10:17,659 unpleasant body odor 229 00:10:18,179 --> 00:10:19,569 um that she married 230 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,290 she wasn't very clean person she she had 231 00:10:25,379 --> 00:10:27,929 her body odor and she wore the same 232 00:10:28,379 --> 00:10:30,649 clothes for days and days before 233 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,990 change in her shoes were all worn and 234 00:10:34,799 --> 00:10:35,839 scuffed up but 235 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,310 part of it was the way she had to walk 236 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,290 and you know they should have bought her 237 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:43,450 more shoes or something 238 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:47,500 I remember distinctly looking at her and 239 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:47,670 be like 240 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,040 you know after 241 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:51,270 seeing wondered 242 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 she'd take her clothes off to wash 243 00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:57,568 to wash can she put clean clothes on 244 00:10:56,700 --> 00:10:57,220 herself 245 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,980 how many days in a row she worn that 246 00:11:00,419 --> 00:11:01,399 does she only 247 00:11:02,339 --> 00:11:05,019 easier to help her I remember thinking 248 00:11:06,539 --> 00:11:06,879 that 249 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:11,600 I never saw her mom or her brothers come 250 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:14,009 visit Natalia the only person that I saw 251 00:11:13,078 --> 00:11:15,928 ever come over there was her adopted dad 252 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,620 I always follow him from a distance 253 00:11:18,059 --> 00:11:20,669 I noticed because I think he drove a 254 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:23,109 sports car so I wasn't it was a car that 255 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:23,249 I had 256 00:11:23,879 --> 00:11:26,729 a scene come through but it wasn't often 257 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:29,540 and it doesn't seem like he was there a 258 00:11:29,458 --> 00:11:30,148 long time 259 00:11:30,149 --> 00:11:30,669 [Music] 260 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,080 I only saw him the one time on accident 261 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,140 drive up and get out and we were right 262 00:11:38,458 --> 00:11:41,298 kind of where the trash can was and she 263 00:11:40,259 --> 00:11:43,209 says that's my dad I gotta go and I just 264 00:11:42,899 --> 00:11:45,509 went that's your dad in that car and 265 00:11:45,659 --> 00:11:47,929 then you're making you live here 266 00:11:48,899 --> 00:11:50,809 my husband and I were both 267 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,790 you know he had the concern about her 268 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:54,610 being once safe being 269 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,830 being you know smaller stature and 270 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,700 living by herself 271 00:11:59,578 --> 00:11:59,918 just 272 00:12:01,139 --> 00:12:03,519 wanting to make sure she was okay 273 00:12:07,078 --> 00:12:09,798 are we pick up on that either she was 274 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,280 five or fifty she needed somebody to 275 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:13,790 help her take care of herself 276 00:12:16,139 --> 00:12:18,889 some of Natalya's neighbors were worried 277 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,570 for her well-being so they contacted the 278 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,750 department of children's services so DCS 279 00:12:23,578 --> 00:12:25,158 starts an investigation 280 00:12:26,458 --> 00:12:29,098 Heather Wilson had investigated Natalya 281 00:12:29,220 --> 00:12:32,000 as a child in the Barnett home in 2012 282 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:34,559 before she's been re-aged 283 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:36,269 fast forward 284 00:12:37,078 --> 00:12:38,058 almost a year 285 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,380 and Natalia is now living in an 286 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:44,329 apartment by herself and Heather Wilson 287 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,009 has brought back into the picture 288 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,059 22 years old and Heather Wilson may 289 00:12:52,139 --> 00:12:54,829 maybe she wasn't convinced that Natalia 290 00:12:54,839 --> 00:12:56,279 was an adult and so 291 00:12:56,458 --> 00:12:58,888 he was going to do what she could 292 00:12:58,919 --> 00:12:59,609 sure they 293 00:13:00,299 --> 00:13:02,509 Asians are all neglect once and 294 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:04,369 substantiated and make sure her basic 295 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:05,229 needs are being met 296 00:13:10,379 --> 00:13:13,069 once Michael and Christine learned that 297 00:13:12,299 --> 00:13:14,919 Heather Wilson is back in the picture 298 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,510 it was war against Hamilton County 299 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:24,159 hello 300 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:28,120 where were you when I came over 301 00:13:29,389 --> 00:13:29,909 [Music] 302 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:34,780 here 303 00:13:37,458 --> 00:13:40,078 in this in the apartment complex area 304 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,050 yeah I drove all through here I didn't 305 00:13:41,458 --> 00:13:42,028 see you 306 00:13:44,159 --> 00:13:46,599 could you have been walking in the 307 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,680 sidewalk if I drove through here and 308 00:13:46,379 --> 00:13:47,419 didn't see you 309 00:13:53,278 --> 00:13:55,838 yeah like right over there yeah yeah 310 00:13:54,839 --> 00:13:55,999 drove over there 311 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,690 Heather what's your time 312 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,539 what'd you guys talk about 313 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:04,420 it 314 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,870 oh have you got another report on you 315 00:14:08,339 --> 00:14:08,679 yeah 316 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,280 and another talk about what she's trying 317 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:11,550 to do 318 00:14:17,820 --> 00:14:18,920 that I featured 319 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:20,379 well 320 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,320 um Heather told us you told her that we 321 00:14:23,578 --> 00:14:26,138 only bring you food every two months 322 00:14:26,339 --> 00:14:29,239 and I showed her all the receipt for all 323 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:32,000 the food I bring over makes you know you 324 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,110 were lying about that 325 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:32,440 um 326 00:14:33,299 --> 00:14:34,629 they were going to 327 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,380 they're going to try and do stuff 328 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:40,719 we showed everything to our lawyer and 329 00:14:39,539 --> 00:14:41,979 our lawyer said that they can't do 330 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:43,969 anything they're not even supposed to 331 00:14:42,958 --> 00:14:43,998 come over here 332 00:14:45,299 --> 00:14:48,039 so whatever Heather was trying with you 333 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:47,489 didn't work 334 00:14:48,899 --> 00:14:51,469 it appears that Michael and Christine 335 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,520 only started buying groceries for 336 00:14:53,578 --> 00:14:55,738 Natalya after the department of 337 00:14:55,740 --> 00:14:58,030 children's services reopened their 338 00:14:57,539 --> 00:14:58,419 investigation 339 00:15:03,419 --> 00:15:03,989 shut up 340 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:15,340 theater 341 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:28,880 [Music] 342 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:36,620 [Music] 343 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,729 well they said April 23rd between 344 00:15:43,259 --> 00:15:43,779 started 345 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:46,379 so when they come from 346 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:49,390 [Music] 347 00:15:50,220 --> 00:15:50,560 sure 348 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,460 in the office 349 00:16:08,458 --> 00:16:10,318 lights to bring you Donuts 350 00:16:15,179 --> 00:16:17,379 oh you never tell me the truth 351 00:16:18,659 --> 00:16:21,399 her parents they didn't come around the 352 00:16:21,059 --> 00:16:23,729 law they her dad would come more than 353 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,960 the mother and I don't know why and I 354 00:16:28,139 --> 00:16:30,819 don't even remember what her dad looks 355 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,260 like I only seen him one time 356 00:16:33,059 --> 00:16:34,569 you better talk about 357 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:36,479 um we talked about this 358 00:16:37,019 --> 00:16:37,239 um 359 00:16:37,578 --> 00:16:38,328 went crazy 360 00:16:46,820 --> 00:16:47,340 [Music] 361 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:06,179 this handwritten letter Natalia is 362 00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:09,360 recanting all of these things she had 363 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:11,930 said about Christine in the past 364 00:17:12,838 --> 00:17:15,608 I made them up to make my mom and dad 365 00:17:15,838 --> 00:17:18,688 look really bad is it possible that this 366 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:21,109 is actually dictated by Christine so 367 00:17:21,419 --> 00:17:23,679 that DCS would get off her back 368 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,570 yeah but you're in a beautiful woman and 369 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,100 Natalia came and talia's hair was all 370 00:17:29,579 --> 00:17:32,299 wet and cut as if the mom had cleaned 371 00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:34,770 her up cut her hair and she had 372 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:36,939 different clothes on I didn't know it 373 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,080 was the mom at the time because I never 374 00:17:37,619 --> 00:17:40,399 saw the model I always saw the dad and 375 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,209 the mom said tell this lady you're sorry 376 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,550 and everything you told her was a lie 377 00:17:43,919 --> 00:17:46,719 and Natalia was standing even worse than 378 00:17:46,558 --> 00:17:46,958 usual 379 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:47,920 and 380 00:17:48,750 --> 00:17:49,270 [Music] 381 00:17:51,058 --> 00:17:53,888 it was a lie and I was going well what 382 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,850 do you mean what's going on 383 00:17:56,940 --> 00:17:59,320 the mom didn't say I'm her mother 384 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:00,710 Natalia said this is my mom 385 00:18:04,319 --> 00:18:05,949 well at least everybody 386 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:07,600 everything 387 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,720 [Music] 388 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,799 all the text messages to her right 389 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,130 and I can't talk to her 390 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,810 Michael wiped the contacts out on 391 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,470 Natalia's phone including Heather 392 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:29,159 Wilson's contact information at DCS 393 00:18:30,058 --> 00:18:32,858 was specifically because he did not want 394 00:18:33,179 --> 00:18:35,849 her to be able to call Heather Wilson 395 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,250 Michael had something to hide he did not 396 00:18:37,619 --> 00:18:39,959 want her reporting Social Services 397 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:42,399 something about them because why not let 398 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,080 her talk to them she needs help why not 399 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:47,540 let her get some help what is he hiding 400 00:18:49,539 --> 00:18:50,059 [Music] 401 00:18:56,460 --> 00:18:59,070 have him Natalia live by you well at 402 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,910 first it was okay 403 00:19:02,038 --> 00:19:04,538 and then she started sitting on our 404 00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:07,600 doorsteps waiting for us to come home 405 00:19:07,460 --> 00:19:10,360 and uh then she followed us in the house 406 00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:14,780 in my house the few times she was there 407 00:19:14,819 --> 00:19:17,439 she'd walk through and look at things 408 00:19:16,558 --> 00:19:19,278 and pick things up and look at it and 409 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,340 just like she was chasing their joint 410 00:19:25,259 --> 00:19:28,039 it was always in the back your mind is 411 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,210 she gonna be around is she watching is 412 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,909 she coming over like you know even when 413 00:19:32,579 --> 00:19:33,619 we would leave 414 00:19:35,579 --> 00:19:36,329 her window 415 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:40,290 s you're watching can I leave because I 416 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,970 gotta go somewhere I don't want to get 417 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,190 trapped in a conversation 418 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,839 talk to her I just had to kind of 419 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,910 enforce boundaries a little bit more 420 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:46,839 because 421 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:51,439 if not the minute we got home she would 422 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:52,719 come over or she would call me 423 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:52,779 constantly 424 00:19:54,419 --> 00:19:57,269 who will people come when they come home 425 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,550 when they left and she was really a 426 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,459 pissed at everybody 427 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:09,800 shouldn't call and text me a lot but she 428 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,189 was fine I mean I I just think she was 429 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,250 very lonely over there and didn't have a 430 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:15,659 lot of people around her 431 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,050 thirty percent of our phone number so if 432 00:20:18,419 --> 00:20:21,039 they need anything they know they can 433 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:23,060 call us they know they can pop over ask 434 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:25,489 us for something they need help 435 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,000 let's try I mean it's the midwestern 436 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,789 thing let's be a good neighbor and uh 437 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,440 you know if you're a good neighbor 438 00:20:31,019 --> 00:20:33,869 they're going to be a good neighbor well 439 00:20:32,940 --> 00:20:34,680 I'll help each other out 440 00:20:34,619 --> 00:20:35,659 I'm gonna vibe 441 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:40,969 that was quickly taken advantage of 442 00:20:41,779 --> 00:20:42,819 the sense that 443 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:45,549 that Italian would call 444 00:20:47,099 --> 00:20:47,439 home 445 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,560 would be like a soccer game for our son 446 00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:53,380 and she would call two three times 447 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,070 a point where like hey you gotta stop 448 00:20:56,099 --> 00:20:58,889 stop calling us please sorry I just had 449 00:20:58,859 --> 00:21:01,589 to tell her you know I wasn't offended 450 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:04,049 it was just more like you know Natalia 451 00:21:03,660 --> 00:21:05,110 like we're busy like 452 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:08,730 I'm I'm trying to enjoy my son's soccer 453 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,210 game so 454 00:21:10,679 --> 00:21:13,449 um I need you not to call me and I'll 455 00:21:13,619 --> 00:21:16,569 call you when I get home you know but as 456 00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:18,160 soon as we got home she saw 457 00:21:18,058 --> 00:21:20,678 our carpool in the driveway she would 458 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:23,129 shoot right across the street and try to 459 00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:24,940 you know before we had time to 460 00:21:24,179 --> 00:21:26,399 decompress anything like that um 461 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,520 pretty quick to want anything 462 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,660 to know where when we were going to be 463 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:31,419 home 464 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,090 all times 465 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:34,639 [Music] 466 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,000 nobody liked her nobody they kind of 467 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:46,720 felt sorry for that they were leery 468 00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:49,540 about her and really didn't want her 469 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,710 around and everybody was complaining all 470 00:21:51,779 --> 00:21:54,679 the time about her car in the office and 471 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,340 saying 472 00:21:54,349 --> 00:21:54,869 [Music] 473 00:21:55,980 --> 00:21:58,780 waiting on your doorstep and just really 474 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:01,660 eerie they said we know we're watching 475 00:22:01,619 --> 00:22:04,519 her but we have to take certain steps to 476 00:22:03,779 --> 00:22:06,229 evict somebody and we're taking the 477 00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:07,798 process I said well good 478 00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:08,500 [Music] 479 00:22:09,779 --> 00:22:12,159 creeped out by her this sounds so 480 00:22:12,058 --> 00:22:14,678 terrible but anytime there was like a 481 00:22:13,980 --> 00:22:16,660 sighting of her it's like someone came 482 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,870 to me and said let's follow her today 483 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,959 and this is what she was doing like she 484 00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:21,489 was like the chocolate 485 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:28,029 I come home one day and after you was in 486 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,049 the house 487 00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:31,130 I've had my refrigerator door open 488 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:34,059 getting a Coke and chips and just 489 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,169 looking around and I said you don't need 490 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:39,259 to be back here you go back up front 491 00:22:39,179 --> 00:22:40,449 and up after that 492 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,820 I started locking my doors 493 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:49,830 my neighbor said she'd come at her house 494 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:52,220 one time I think and she didn't like it 495 00:22:52,019 --> 00:22:54,819 either so she started robbing her screen 496 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,970 door so she couldn't get in 497 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,689 he's always hungry a winning food 498 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,220 Sly Fox because she could con you in in 499 00:23:06,058 --> 00:23:06,978 just her way 500 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:10,449 and everybody dreaded it 501 00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:11,620 scary 502 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:15,220 [Music] 503 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:21,939 Westfield 9-1-1 what's your emergency 504 00:23:21,859 --> 00:23:24,709 I've been stalking one of my neighbors I 505 00:23:24,419 --> 00:23:25,689 want to hurt them 506 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,680 [Music] 507 00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:28,900 I'm afraid of what might happen if 508 00:23:28,380 --> 00:23:30,010 someone doesn't help me 509 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,329 I'm going to send some help 510 00:23:33,419 --> 00:23:35,689 while living at the Union Street 511 00:23:34,859 --> 00:23:37,489 Apartments Natalia calls the police on 512 00:23:37,798 --> 00:23:38,318 herself 513 00:23:39,179 --> 00:23:41,969 to tell them that she'd been stalking a 514 00:23:42,179 --> 00:23:44,979 neighbor and she had thoughts of wanting 515 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:46,099 wanting from others 516 00:23:47,220 --> 00:23:48,270 Natalia Barnett 517 00:23:49,558 --> 00:23:52,458 I'm aware that Natalya contacted 9-1-1 a 518 00:23:52,259 --> 00:23:55,049 couple of times while she was living in 519 00:23:53,819 --> 00:23:54,809 that apartment 520 00:23:54,779 --> 00:23:57,449 until the officers that she was a was 521 00:23:57,179 --> 00:23:59,749 attempting to burn down her apartment 522 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:00,889 complex using her microwave trying to 523 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,449 start a fire in her microwave 524 00:24:02,339 --> 00:24:03,209 please hurry 525 00:24:05,038 --> 00:24:07,718 right after that she was always active 526 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:08,970 really strange 527 00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:13,150 one day we got to talk and I said why 528 00:24:13,259 --> 00:24:16,049 aren't you living with your mom and dad 529 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,080 she goes oh they're afraid of me I said 530 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,500 why she says because I took a knife to 531 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,720 him one night you know and she just had 532 00:24:22,798 --> 00:24:25,178 this strange look in her eye like 533 00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:27,130 it's a normal thing 534 00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:28,839 [Music] 535 00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:30,390 it wasn't 536 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,180 it wasn't until she started talking to 537 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,510 me more in depth about the history with 538 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,959 her family and she said well I tried to 539 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,470 kill my mom and I just was at her more 540 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:42,159 questions 541 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:43,769 to happen 542 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,490 try to do that 543 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:47,389 I stood over them with a 544 00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:49,440 took all the knives away 545 00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:52,989 and I tried to poison them so I had to 546 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,279 live in the garage for a while 547 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,160 a serial killers 548 00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:58,310 so casually they put attempted murder 549 00:24:58,019 --> 00:24:59,359 into a conversation 550 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:01,840 like 551 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,950 so long you know oh well oh gee I pulled 552 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,919 a knife on my parents big deal you know 553 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,040 that's the attitude you got from her 554 00:25:15,538 --> 00:25:18,318 this is coming what what do we do with 555 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,359 this information we're not social 556 00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:23,099 workers we're not therapists like 557 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:25,480 like why would you tell me that 558 00:25:25,259 --> 00:25:28,099 and how do you expect me to handle this 559 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:27,879 information 560 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,970 you know it was it was hard for us to 561 00:25:30,419 --> 00:25:31,699 understand how she 562 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:34,900 was just left and now apartment by 563 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:34,960 herself 564 00:25:35,538 --> 00:25:37,748 just freely offered up that she 565 00:25:39,298 --> 00:25:42,138 she tried to kill her mom you know like 566 00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:42,810 that's weird 567 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:47,599 but then I also think if I had somebody 568 00:25:48,659 --> 00:25:50,799 in my home that I thought was 569 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:52,459 a threat to 570 00:25:53,819 --> 00:25:54,799 my other kids 571 00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:57,770 you know what would I do 572 00:25:58,859 --> 00:26:01,699 again if I thought she was a child that 573 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,760 couldn't take care of herself this would 574 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,750 be a different conversation 575 00:26:04,798 --> 00:26:07,638 but I at what point do I start worrying 576 00:26:07,558 --> 00:26:07,958 about 577 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,169 this person 578 00:26:10,619 --> 00:26:13,459 it's like a bad breakup like if I break 579 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:15,019 up with you 580 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:17,219 are you gonna go crazy 581 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,380 if I help and then 582 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:23,120 I'll be gonna be standing over my bed at 583 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:23,339 the end of the night 584 00:26:22,798 --> 00:26:24,358 you know with a knife 585 00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:36,420 Department of Children Services spent 586 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,460 weeks investigating Natalia at Union 587 00:26:38,579 --> 00:26:41,219 Street Apartments but DCS investigation 588 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,910 can't really go very far because 589 00:26:44,819 --> 00:26:46,679 that is solid legal ground 590 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,790 the judge you know who signed the order 591 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,110 that she's 22. she's an adult so the 592 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,130 Department of Children Services have no 593 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,290 jurisdiction over this so Michael and 594 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,510 Christine Barnett didn't not have to 595 00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:01,559 worry about social services anymore 596 00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:07,530 still she was an adult person you could 597 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:10,589 just tell she wasn't a little 11 year 598 00:27:10,679 --> 00:27:13,529 old girl that they left here or wherever 599 00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:14,700 she had to be 25. 600 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,110 and um you know 601 00:27:18,179 --> 00:27:19,099 she had some 602 00:27:20,099 --> 00:27:22,599 breasts and stuff you know she wore 603 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,140 undergarments that adults would probably 604 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,510 wear and she had a brawn 605 00:27:28,259 --> 00:27:30,749 and you can see the straps of that 606 00:27:30,778 --> 00:27:33,288 spoke very fluently she doesn't talk 607 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,380 like an eight-year-old she talked like a 608 00:27:35,278 --> 00:27:36,198 I don't know 609 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:38,020 [Music] 610 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,090 she would come into my office and go 611 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:46,349 the candy because it was like a candy 612 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,989 bowl and 613 00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:49,169 um just sit and talk to me and 614 00:27:49,619 --> 00:27:50,189 I would 615 00:27:52,798 --> 00:27:53,368 are you 616 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,220 know it's kind of shrunk their shoulder 617 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:58,740 or something I don't know 618 00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:00,959 he has been a child 619 00:28:01,859 --> 00:28:03,609 because that is something 620 00:28:03,778 --> 00:28:04,758 child will do 621 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:08,010 an office that you know you know me 622 00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:09,470 every day once you become friends 623 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:12,560 their house I feel like a lot of the 624 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,859 things that she did were very childlike 625 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,330 she did show characteristics of a 626 00:28:16,859 --> 00:28:19,539 youngster when she was playing with my 627 00:28:19,558 --> 00:28:20,428 grandson who 628 00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:21,279 [Music] 629 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,810 had to Die four years old 630 00:28:23,579 --> 00:28:26,309 she seemed like a child having a great 631 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,420 time playing with a playmate 632 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:33,400 and when she'd interact with us she 633 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:33,969 seemed like an adult 634 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,140 I said well maybe you know she has a 635 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,619 easier time connecting with children 636 00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:42,809 because they're easier to talk to a lot 637 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,090 of times less judgmental and so maybe it 638 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:45,800 was just easier 639 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880 you know everybody was leery about her 640 00:28:48,798 --> 00:28:51,358 uneasy and she even talked about her 641 00:28:51,419 --> 00:28:54,109 brothers saying that the parents didn't 642 00:28:53,819 --> 00:28:56,549 trust her around the boys and she goes 643 00:28:58,140 --> 00:29:00,860 well I said why not and she goes well 644 00:29:00,058 --> 00:29:00,978 you know why 645 00:29:01,798 --> 00:29:04,058 I said was you doing things you 646 00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:06,059 shouldn't she goes well probably 647 00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,849 so you know just like c'est la vie 648 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:09,960 [Music] 649 00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:14,300 a weird too she would want to know when 650 00:29:13,619 --> 00:29:16,049 our son would be home and not our 651 00:29:15,659 --> 00:29:18,159 daughter but our son I don't really 652 00:29:18,058 --> 00:29:20,578 remember her having interactions with 653 00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:20,610 her daughter 654 00:29:21,179 --> 00:29:22,459 that's when things 655 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,730 went from uncomfortable to weird and 656 00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:29,280 almost borderline inappropriate so she 657 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,850 would come across the street when he was 658 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:33,309 waiting for the bus 659 00:29:33,419 --> 00:29:36,149 where he would be out there by himself 660 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,720 waiting for the bus and he was an eight 661 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:41,239 or nine nine years old at the time so 662 00:29:42,058 --> 00:29:44,838 old not to be out there by himself but 663 00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:45,160 um 664 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,910 you know we just got to be a point where 665 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,100 we felt uncomfortable as parents 666 00:29:50,579 --> 00:29:50,799 um 667 00:29:52,259 --> 00:29:55,049 but again not knowing how to handle the 668 00:29:54,298 --> 00:29:56,228 situation with somebody like 669 00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:57,710 [Music] 670 00:29:58,919 --> 00:30:01,649 me if you didn't keep your screen door 671 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,570 locked she'd walked in because one day I 672 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:04,049 come home 673 00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:08,140 my grandson and his friend was playing 674 00:30:07,259 --> 00:30:07,599 Xbox 675 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,500 and I walked in I said what's going on 676 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,540 and he said she got a hanging around too 677 00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:22,210 close to their chairs 678 00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:25,960 they're rubbing up and you know leaning 679 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:26,239 on and stuff 680 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,270 it made my grandson feel uncomfortable 681 00:30:29,819 --> 00:30:32,309 so he told Natalya get out of here 682 00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:36,580 just land the door of her face 683 00:30:36,778 --> 00:30:38,918 I thought how dare you try to 684 00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:42,389 do anything to my grandson I thought oh 685 00:30:42,179 --> 00:30:44,029 I just wanted to go after 686 00:30:45,058 --> 00:30:47,958 and I told my grandson I said don't ever 687 00:30:47,579 --> 00:30:50,249 let her in here especially if I'm not 688 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:50,499 home 689 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,240 the lady from the apartment complex said 690 00:30:58,259 --> 00:31:00,869 just she knew we had smaller kids so 691 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,739 just to be careful she came over and and 692 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:07,180 very serious was warning us about some 693 00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:07,600 things 694 00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:12,559 and just that we need to be careful with 695 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,630 our kids 696 00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:14,189 and uh 697 00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,089 I think it bordered on almost like you 698 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,720 need to not have her over to your house 699 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,160 which I mean 700 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:24,629 I appreciate 701 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,890 being warned if there's a situation 702 00:31:28,038 --> 00:31:30,758 but at the same time we can take that 703 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,469 information and make our own judgments 704 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400 and make our own decisions for our 705 00:31:35,278 --> 00:31:35,738 family 706 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,539 one day we heard the door open and our 707 00:31:44,819 --> 00:31:46,799 dog just started going crazy 708 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,950 and we kind of like ran out front to the 709 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,260 living room area where the front door 710 00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:53,879 was and Natalia was there 711 00:31:54,029 --> 00:31:54,549 [Music] 712 00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:01,099 we got upset 713 00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:04,489 upset came into our house without 714 00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:04,299 permission 715 00:32:05,038 --> 00:32:07,728 started going towards our son's bedroom 716 00:32:07,019 --> 00:32:09,509 which was in the back of the house 717 00:32:09,058 --> 00:32:10,328 luckily we had uh 718 00:32:12,659 --> 00:32:15,329 truet was small but Fierce and uh she 719 00:32:16,558 --> 00:32:18,828 was very scared of the Chihuahua 720 00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:19,659 yeah 721 00:32:20,898 --> 00:32:22,988 and that's when we started to 722 00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:26,630 distance ourselves from saying you know 723 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,330 sorry Natalia we're not going to be home 724 00:32:29,099 --> 00:32:31,999 for a while or wait we're really busy we 725 00:32:31,259 --> 00:32:33,159 got a lot of things to do 726 00:32:34,679 --> 00:32:37,529 as we probably should we should have but 727 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,180 again not knowing her mental level not 728 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:43,130 knowing how she could handle rejection 729 00:32:42,298 --> 00:32:43,458 things like that 730 00:32:43,558 --> 00:32:46,458 you know I remember my wife and I having 731 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:47,739 conversations about it like how do we 732 00:32:46,558 --> 00:32:49,408 let her down because this is getting too 733 00:32:48,778 --> 00:32:50,108 much it's too much 734 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:54,980 is that going to be the point where she 735 00:32:54,298 --> 00:32:54,698 snaps 736 00:32:58,099 --> 00:33:00,899 well nobody levered their kids out about 737 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:03,820 a around her and everything after they 738 00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,099 heard about what she tried with the 739 00:33:05,579 --> 00:33:06,979 neighbors little boy 740 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:10,289 it was just like you had to everybody 741 00:33:10,259 --> 00:33:12,869 had to watch out for this person one 742 00:33:12,778 --> 00:33:15,348 person that was taken over everything 743 00:33:16,390 --> 00:33:16,910 [Music] 744 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:23,269 live by you is like a Hitchcock movie 745 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,950 even you got so you hated to go out your 746 00:33:28,679 --> 00:33:31,299 door because you didn't know if she's 747 00:33:30,179 --> 00:33:32,789 going to be out there waiting on you 748 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,110 or if you'd walk out the mailbox here 749 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,230 she is 750 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,590 she would start walking 751 00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:46,300 going on in the house that's getting 752 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,920 like a birds and eating their food 753 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,500 and then we have a landscaping crew 754 00:33:51,558 --> 00:33:53,998 and she would like hide behind the 755 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:54,700 bushes 756 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:58,820 and kind of pop out at them and put 757 00:33:58,500 --> 00:33:59,190 scares on 758 00:34:01,798 --> 00:34:04,588 she seemed to hang around all the older 759 00:34:04,679 --> 00:34:06,119 real old guys a lot 760 00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:11,200 she was trying sexual or talking sexual 761 00:34:11,878 --> 00:34:14,548 things to him Fred was in there doing 762 00:34:14,579 --> 00:34:15,389 his laundry 763 00:34:24,358 --> 00:34:27,028 and she walked in and he just thought 764 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,210 she was coming in there to be friendly 765 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,929 or something because she couldn't reach 766 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,710 the coins didn't do her own laundry of 767 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:34,900 course 768 00:34:36,059 --> 00:34:38,909 and I guess she started talking you know 769 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:39,570 sexual and 770 00:34:40,918 --> 00:34:43,818 crude things to him and tried to ease up 771 00:34:44,099 --> 00:34:45,309 to him and stuff 772 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,860 he said I was so uneasy and uptight with 773 00:34:48,838 --> 00:34:51,728 her I just wanted to get out of there I 774 00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:52,390 almost left my clothes 775 00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:56,780 he said I finally got away from her and 776 00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:59,360 he said I never want to be in that 777 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,530 laundry room again it was her 778 00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:03,990 you could believe this man if you knew 779 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,159 this man she 780 00:35:06,179 --> 00:35:09,019 uh what is the word she offered him sex 781 00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:11,500 and he said get away from me 782 00:35:12,329 --> 00:35:12,849 [Music] 783 00:35:13,619 --> 00:35:16,349 I'll tell you when the front and there 784 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:18,230 was an older guy up there 785 00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,379 there for two or three hours at a time 786 00:35:21,659 --> 00:35:23,969 and she went to his house a lot 787 00:35:27,179 --> 00:35:30,019 she said that she was living in a house 788 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,209 of prostitution downtown and that she 789 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,670 saw prostitutes and she did prostitution 790 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:36,110 before she came here somewhere in 791 00:35:35,699 --> 00:35:36,689 Indianapolis I 792 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,879 fever because that's how she talked in 793 00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:40,358 circles 794 00:35:40,699 --> 00:35:41,219 [Music] 795 00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,169 one day well I seen the little boy 796 00:35:51,838 --> 00:35:54,048 rolling around in the grass and 797 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,309 everything and I said well I'm going in 798 00:35:55,980 --> 00:35:58,700 and she said okay so she went down to 799 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,320 the neighbor's house 800 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,390 you know how you roll down a hill 801 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:05,740 they were laying an Italian him or 802 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,159 laying rolling back and forth 803 00:36:10,858 --> 00:36:13,638 and then the next thing I know she was 804 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,640 close to the little boy 805 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,049 and Natalia reached over it started 806 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,639 undoing his pants and I said Natalia 807 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:23,230 what are you doing 808 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,239 [Music] 809 00:36:28,619 --> 00:36:31,349 and that's when the dad comes the door 810 00:36:30,539 --> 00:36:33,269 and grabbed up his son and was yelling 811 00:36:32,699 --> 00:36:33,209 at her 812 00:36:33,838 --> 00:36:36,678 and she said if she ever touched my son 813 00:36:36,838 --> 00:36:39,328 again you know he was just the dad 814 00:36:38,699 --> 00:36:41,309 enraged and she took off and went up 815 00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,489 front doing that with that little boy in 816 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:45,019 front of us 817 00:36:45,659 --> 00:36:48,449 God knows what she does you know behind 818 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:49,860 closed doors it's so simple 819 00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:01,300 foreign 820 00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:09,570 [Music] 821 00:37:12,619 --> 00:37:15,069 store and playing with the children 822 00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:15,638 yes 823 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,529 do you remember harming any one of their 824 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,939 children you know 825 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,170 I never did that 826 00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:27,909 there had been so 827 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,480 [Music] 828 00:37:30,539 --> 00:37:33,059 Vere disturbing neighbors and whatnot 829 00:37:33,659 --> 00:37:36,389 and they had said that she was playing 830 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,490 with these kids and that was just kind 831 00:37:37,619 --> 00:37:40,519 of weird that you know an adult would be 832 00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:40,570 [Music] 833 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,430 little kids like the way that she was 834 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:44,539 like rolling around 835 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,389 one person so that it looked like she 836 00:37:48,059 --> 00:37:49,519 was being appropriate 837 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,190 I was touching them 838 00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:52,299 as a rule 839 00:37:54,179 --> 00:37:56,449 technically like if we get three 840 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,080 complaints or more we have the ability 841 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,660 to reduce someone 842 00:38:01,099 --> 00:38:03,009 she lives there for a year 843 00:38:04,139 --> 00:38:06,449 oh and then her lease is up the 844 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,220 apartment complex is not going to renew 845 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,490 the lease 846 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:11,690 So Christine goes apartment hunting with 847 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,200 Natalya chills in Lafayette Indiana 848 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,660 we know a little bit about the time we 849 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,359 went to college there she 850 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,380 should Purdue so we know a bit about the 851 00:38:20,338 --> 00:38:20,678 time 852 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:23,930 Christine finds an apartment for her 853 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,630 very recently before that within weeks 854 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,940 we had found out we were going to be 855 00:38:27,659 --> 00:38:29,989 moving to Canada to support son's 856 00:38:29,579 --> 00:38:30,219 education 857 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,840 the perimeter Institute in Waterloo 858 00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:34,770 Ontario Canada 859 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,440 Jacob who's 14 860 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,280 you go there for a year to do his 861 00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:41,199 Masters 862 00:38:42,179 --> 00:38:42,459 but 863 00:38:44,219 --> 00:38:46,929 that it was going to be to be a very 864 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:47,130 very bad 865 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,390 this year of marriage 866 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,400 [Music] 867 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,110 Natalya had been the subject of so many 868 00:38:55,139 --> 00:38:57,829 reports whether it was Adult Protective 869 00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:00,840 Services child protective services the 870 00:39:00,539 --> 00:39:01,939 Westfield police the 871 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,850 barnetts were fed up with it they needed 872 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,770 her out of that County but what happened 873 00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:09,630 in Lafayette is beginning of the end for 874 00:39:09,838 --> 00:39:10,708 the barnetts 875 00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:14,740 did you agree to go to Lafayette 876 00:39:14,699 --> 00:39:17,599 no I didn't know where we were going she 877 00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:17,959 just took me 878 00:39:18,539 --> 00:39:21,329 no he takes his turkey to Lafayette yes 879 00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:26,309 and then what happened when you went to 880 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,630 Lafayette uh we went and looked at an 881 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:29,140 apartment 882 00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:32,550 and you want to stay in that apartment 883 00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:34,960 I didn't but Christine told me that 884 00:39:35,338 --> 00:39:38,008 that's where I was going to be living 885 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:40,109 but he didn't want to live there no 886 00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:44,199 Westville did you want to live there 887 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:43,660 no 888 00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:46,189 she just got it for me 889 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,119 or where do you want to live 890 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,530 I wanted to live with Christine 891 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:56,639 I wanted to be with 892 00:39:57,420 --> 00:40:00,200 a family I wonder when I was my family 893 00:40:00,858 --> 00:40:01,848 with Christine 894 00:40:04,019 --> 00:40:06,689 because I didn't know what to do like 895 00:40:07,139 --> 00:40:10,089 I didn't know at all what to do I didn't 896 00:40:09,539 --> 00:40:12,439 know how to take care of myself I didn't 897 00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:12,829 know how to be by myself 898 00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:12,690 [Music] 899 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,950 I got her out 900 00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:18,460 so everybody was so relieved I thought 901 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,650 everybody was really happy to see her go 902 00:40:24,179 --> 00:40:26,979 so one night just like overnight Natalia 903 00:40:26,699 --> 00:40:27,329 was gone 904 00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:29,710 we didn't sphere and 905 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:31,839 I 906 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,670 tried to call her phone and her phone 907 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,110 was disconnected 908 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:41,909 we had no idea what happened in Italian 909 00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:44,419 but it was just like she was just gone 910 00:40:45,358 --> 00:40:48,138 let me tell you I don't know where she 911 00:40:47,579 --> 00:40:50,199 went after this I don't know anything 912 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:50,919 right 913 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,230 I think she's a little possessed she is 914 00:40:56,338 --> 00:40:58,428 that's all you can really say 915 00:40:58,380 --> 00:40:59,780 she presents herself 916 00:41:01,179 --> 00:41:01,699 [Music] 917 00:41:07,969 --> 00:41:08,489 [Music] 918 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:16,840 [Music] 919 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:22,750 [Music] 920 00:41:26,358 --> 00:41:27,628 she said was true 921 00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:31,969 [Music] 922 00:41:47,659 --> 00:41:48,639 so we started 923 00:41:53,619 --> 00:41:54,139 [Music] 924 00:42:02,099 --> 00:42:02,729 the time 925 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:06,820 [Music] 62841

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