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In 1944, a young man called
Milton Ernest Rauschenberg
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embarked on a journey that
would take him a million miles away
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from the sprawling oil refinery town
where he'd been born
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to working-class parents in 1925.
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His escape from Port Arthur,
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a cultural desert
on the steamy gulf coast of Texas,
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would eventually lead him
to paradise.
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By the time Rauschenberg
came here in 1970
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and settled on this beautiful and
remote island of Captiva in Florida,
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he'd completely
transformed his life.
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He'd even changed his own name.
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Robert Rauschenberg,
as he now called himself,
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was by then a world-famous artist,
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with a retinue of assistants
helping him create some of
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the most inventive and celebrated
works of the 20th century.
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Today, Rauschenberg isn't really
a household name like, say,
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Jackson Pollock or Andy Warhol,
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but he really should be
because no-one else
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came close in working with
such a bewildering array
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of different styles,
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constantly experimenting
with new and surprising materials
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during the course of a career
that spanned six decades.
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Bob always was looking for the new.
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As soon as he mastered one thing,
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he would look for something else
that would inspire him.
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I'm not interested
in doing what I know I can do
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or what I think I can do.
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Rauschenberg was
a new type of artist,
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one who embraced popular culture
in all its trashy glory,
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and expanded the possibilities
of what an artwork could be,
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from paintings and sculptures...
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to paintings and sculptures
combined.
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He was able to break all these rules
and dissolve all of these boundaries
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because he wasn't afraid
of the consequences.
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From silk-screens and blueprints
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to works on metal and glass.
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Bob is the wind blowing through the
art world for almost a century now,
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pollinating everything.
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From set and costume design
to collaborations with musicians,
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dancers and even scientists,
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Rauschenberg's endless curiosity saw
him rewrite the artistic rule book
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and anticipate every major
art movement from the '50s onwards.
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Rauschenberg once said that
the whole world was his canvas.
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He was always a scavenger,
collecting life's flotsam and jetsam
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to create his wildly raucously
inventive works of art.
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And anything and everything
could be a material for him -
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socks, old bedspreads,
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light bulbs, fans,
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mangled car parts, metal signs,
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even a common car tyre...
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..made of rubber, made of petroleum,
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made from crude oil.
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However far he travelled
from his home town of Port Arthur,
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it was the product of those
dirty Texan oil refineries
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that would fuel the best of his art
and keep him grounded.
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He could make art from anything,
you know, whether it's dirt or gold.
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There was no such thing
as low or high,
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there was no hierarchy of art
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or material or people.
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By talking to those
who knew Rauschenberg best,
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I'm hoping to find out
what drove this man
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in his restless quest
for reinvention,
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which saw him come
from small-town America
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to become one of the first
truly global artists.
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Now, there is one person who
I've been really, really desperate
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to talk to, and that's Rauschenberg
younger sister, Janet,
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his only sibling.
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Now, the only trouble is that
she lives in Louisiana
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and unfortunately she hasn't been
able to fly out to meet me.
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However - and I'm hoping
that Rauschenberg
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would've approved of this -
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my solution to the problem
is to try and harness
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21st-century technology
to talk to her via a video call.
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So that's what I'm going
to attempt to do now.
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There we go.
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Janet! Hey.
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There's so much that I want
to ask you, Janet,
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but the thing that I've been really
trying to find out about is
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a little bit about Port Arthur
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and what life was like in Texas.
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Port Arthur is
a blue-collar city, for sure.
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Not that there's anything wrong
with blue-collar,
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except that there was
no art stuff going on.
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Let me ask you about that
because I wonder how easy was it
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for a young man who wants
to be an artist
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to pursue his dreams
in a place like that?
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It was impossible.
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And, of course, my daddy did not
understand art at all, not ever.
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People did that for a hobby.
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He had no encouragement ever.
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But Mother was always
totally behind Bob.
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She was a delightful little lady -
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pretty and silly
and just a lot of fun.
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And, you know, Bob was silly.
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I mean, he was silly-silly.
We used to have the best time,
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cos I'm silly.
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If you couldn't have a good time
then you couldn't go with him.
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You had to just go by yourself,
go do something else.
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But I do think that Mother had
a tremendous influence on Bob.
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For all he'd learnt from his mother
about making light of life,
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Rauschenberg was determined from the
very start to forge a career in art.
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After a stint in the Navy,
he used his GI Bill to get himself
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to art school in Paris in 1948.
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But by the early '50s,
there was only one place to head to
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if you wanted to be taken seriously
as an artist...
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New York,
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which, by then, had taken
over from Paris
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as the centre
of the world's avant-garde.
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And the fact that he eventually
managed to gain a foothold there
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and make a name for himself
was largely down to this woman.
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Susan. Hi, Alastair. Hello.
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Come in. It's great to meet you.
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Thank you very much. You too.
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I'm in the right place. You are.
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So this is your studio, right?
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This is my studio.
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'Susan Weil, who, at the age of 86,
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'continues to paint
in her New York studio,
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'met Rauschenberg in the late '40s.
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'And it was she who led him to
a place that would stimulate
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'the unique way
he went about making art.'
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Hi, Alastair. Hello.
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This is nice and natural now,
isn't it?
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Let's start at the very beginning.
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I mean, how did you meet
Rauschenberg?
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Well, when I graduated
from high school,
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I was young, 18, very juvenile,
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and I was enrolled
in the Academie Julian in Paris
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and in the pension
where I was living,
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there was a very huge laugh
that boomed out now and then,
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and it was Bob.
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He had the biggest booming laugh
you could imagine.
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Do you remember what you found so
attractive about Bob to begin with?
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Well, he was so easy and friendly
and wonderful
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and I loved his enthusiasm
about art and his wonder at it
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because he grew up with people
who were horrified about art
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and we kind of explored about
art together in Paris.
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In late 1948, when Susan returned to
America to continue her studies
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at Black Mountain College,
Rauschenberg followed her.
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Nestling in the remote hills
of North Carolina,
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Black Mountain
was a haven for progressive minds,
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offering interdisciplinary classes
to those who wished to experiment
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and expand the boundaries of art.
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It had that feeling
at Black Mountain
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that you could do
anything you wanted to do -
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you just tried to do it
in your own way.
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So I'm so glad he found
Black Mountain
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because Bob grew up
so fast about art, he really did.
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I think that was the first place
he had ever been where
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his nonconformism was echoed
in almost everybody else.
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He was in a nest of nonconformers,
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and I think he loved the place,
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he absolutely felt
supremely happy there.
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But while Rauschenberg took
to Black Mountain immediately,
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his stern art teacher, Josef Albers,
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a former member of the Bauhaus,
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didn't think much
of his new student.
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Bob always said that Albers
was the most important teacher
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he ever had and he was sure
that Albers felt
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he was the worst student
that he'd ever had.
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He started every class with saying,
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"I don't want to know who did that."
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And everybody would turn
and look at me.
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Josef Albers recognised ego
when he saw it.
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And he didn't think
we had any right to an ego,
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as we were young students,
and so he had to wrestle with Bob
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in the best way he could, which was
to put down his work and so on.
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But he was also
a very powerful teacher.
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Albers was incredibly expansive
in what he thought
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could be included in a work of art,
so his students at Black Mountain
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would run out
and gather natural materials,
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they would gather cigarette butts,
they would gather trash from
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the dump heap and all of these
things would become a work of art.
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In fact, in Albers' classes,
the word "combination" was a mantra,
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so it was a kind of tutoring
in collage procedures.
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Along with Albers, Rauschenberg met
two men at Black Mountain,
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choreographer Merce Cunningham
and composer John Cage,
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who'd become instrumental
in helping him forge
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a collaborative approach to art.
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With the help of Cage and his Model
A Ford, his wheels were inked black
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before being driven over 20 sheets
of paper laid on the road.
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Rauschenberg created
a piece of conceptual art
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that marked him out as a pioneer.
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And together, the three friends
would go on to produce
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some of the most ground-breaking
performances of the '50s and '60s.
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With Rauschenberg providing the sets
and costumes,
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Cage the music...
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..and Cunningham the choreography.
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But it was an earlier collaboration
with Susan,
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who Rauschenberg
had married in the summer of 1950,
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that first got him press attention.
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This is Life magazine with
an article about our blueprints.
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So this is the collaboration
that you did together? Yes.
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And it got featured in Life?
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I mean, that's quite a big deal
to begin with.
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I know, we were still students.
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I mean, it was crazy
to get that attention.
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Well, maybe you could
just describe how it worked.
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So, this is one of
the big blueprints and the thing,
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whether it's a person or a flower,
is covering the sensitive paper
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and when she gets up, you put it
under the shower and it turns blue.
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And what about these photographs.
This is you - and him! Yeah.
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And this is your bathroom,
basically? Yeah.
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And we had to share the bath and
share the kitchen. It wasn't easy.
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So when we did blueprints,
our neighbour was fuming around,
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because he couldn't
go to the bathroom.
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And of course, 60-odd plus years on,
these are major masterpieces.
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Do you feel proud?
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Well, I mean, what I feel is the
wonder of finding a new way to work.
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It was exciting, you know?
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And when you were making them,
you were just so anxious
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to see how they came out.
It was just very exciting.
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The editors of Life magazine
weren't the only ones
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to spot the originality
of these works.
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One was bought
by the Museum of Modern Art
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and included in their Abstraction
In Photography exhibition in 1951,
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providing both the money
and recognition
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the young Rauschenberg craved.
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But just as his career seemed
to be taking off,
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his relationship with Susan,
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who'd by then given birth
to their son, Christopher,
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was coming to an end.
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After Christopher was born,
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Bob went back to Black Mountain
to do some teaching and so on,
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and I went there that summer
with Chris, he was a new-born baby,
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and then I left Black Mountain
and I was on my own after that.
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While teaching at Black Mountain,
Rauschenberg had fallen in love
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with a young painter
called Cy Twombly.
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Bob and Cy were gorgeous-looking.
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They were just drop-dead beautiful,
both of them.
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Was Black Mountain the kind of place
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where, if you were two
young, gay men in a relationship,
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you could be fairly open about it?
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Well, you know,
homosexuality during the '50s
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was different than it is now.
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It was so hidden.
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And I think it was hidden
by homosexuals to themselves.
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Bob evidently didn't realise
the degree
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to which he was a homosexual
until then.
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Where you aware,
when you got married,
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of Rauschenberg's openness
in terms of sexuality?
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I didn't really understand it,
because I was a dopey teenager.
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The most he ever said about it was,
"I find men attractive."
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So the marriage fell apart, but
forever, we were very dear friends.
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We cared about each other a great
deal and he adored Christopher,
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so that was all very positive.
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By the mid '50s, Rauschenberg's
relationship with Twombly had ended
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and he returned to New York,
intent on making a name for himself.
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But he wouldn't find it easy
to fit in.
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The contemporary art scene
was then dominated
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by the Abstract Expressionists.
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And compared to
their non-figurative paintings,
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full of brooding introspection,
Rauschenberg's exuberant works,
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brimming with references
to real life,
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seemed totally left-field.
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In a pioneering film by
Emile de Antonio, Rauschenberg
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explained his approach to art
that marked him out as a renegade.
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You have to have time
to feel sorry for yourself,
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if you're going to be
a good Abstract Expressionist.
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And, er...
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..I think I always considered
that a waste.
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It wasn't that he rejected them,
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he didn't reject
what they were doing,
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he just wanted to open it up.
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And most of them
were very contemptuous of him,
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because they felt he wasn't serious.
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They felt he was doing things that
were just silly, childish antics.
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No wonder, perhaps, when
he was creating works like this.
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In his Erased de Kooning Drawing,
made -
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or rather unmade - in '53...
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..Rauschenberg acquired a drawing
from the high priest
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of Abstract Expressionism,
Willem de Kooning
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and then proceeded to rub it out.
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But de Kooning, captured here
on film by Robert Snyder,
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didn't make it easy for him.
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He said, "I'm going to give you
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"something really difficult
to erase."
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HE LAUGHS
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And he gave me something that had
charcoal, oil paint, pencil,
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crayon and I spent a month erasing
that little drawing that's this big.
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I think that that's one of
the greatest conceptual documents
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in the history of art.
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It was the first time
that somebody created
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a work of art by subtraction.
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That's an amazing thing
to have done.
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In his rebellion
against the old guard,
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Rauschenberg soon found
a willing accomplice, Jasper Johns,
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another young hopeful hailing
from the South
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who'd become the most important
person in his life.
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I think at the beginning it was
primarily love at first sight.
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There was a poetic quality to Johns
that was very appealing to him.
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It's amazing to me that
they ever had a relationship,
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because Bob is so opposite
to Jasper.
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Bob is so flamboyant
and Jasper is more contained.
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Despite their different
temperaments, Rauschenberg and Johns
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united in rejecting
Abstract Expressionist angst.
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Their playful works, which instead
celebrated popular culture,
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paved the way for pop art
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and eventually turned them
into top-selling artists.
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But when a Rauschenberg and Johns
got together in the mid '50s,
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they were still penniless
and hungry.
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Rauschenberg was surviving
on this minuscule food budget
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of just 15 cents a day.
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He said that he couldn't
even afford the ticket
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of a ride on the subway.
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And they were living together
in this condemned building
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in downtown Manhattan
without even hot water.
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So Rauschenberg began to scour
the streets for discarded junk
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that he felt certain could be
the raw - and crucially, free -
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materials for his art.
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During the '50s, some American
artists realised what the Dadaists
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in Europe had known
about 30 years before.
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Mainly that societies reveal
themselves in what they threw away.
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Street junk was, to these men,
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what the flea market
had been to the Surrealists.
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And among them,
there was one at budding master,
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a man in his 20s from Texas,
named Robert Rauschenberg.
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I actually had kind of a house rule.
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If I walked completely around
the block
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and I didn't find enough
to work with,
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I could pick one other block
in any direction
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to walk around, but that was it.
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He once described it, he said,
"I have a peculiar kind of focus.
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"I tend to see everything in sight."
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He could look at the world
around him uncritically.
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He could see that, as
subject matter, a torn comic strip
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lying on the street could be
as usable as a Renaissance painting.
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All of these things
could be a source of imagery.
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Rauschenberg came up with a new term
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for these pioneering strange hybrid
works of art
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he started creating in the '50s
out of things he'd scavenged.
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And that term was "the combines".
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And that's because they're
part painting, part sculpture
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and this is one of
the very first combines of all.
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It's called Bed and there's
a brilliant story attached to it
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about its creation.
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Here he is, spring 1955 -
a destitute, penniless artist
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and he runs out of canvas, yet he
still feels compelled to paint.
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So what does he do?
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He looks around him and he finds
this old quilt and thinks,
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"Aha, I can use that.
I can paint on it."
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But the thing
he kept coming up against
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was that it always
looked like a quilt.
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So his light bulb moment,
if you like, was to say,
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"Well, why don't I just create
a painting of a bed?"
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So he added the pillow,
he added the sheet.
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And he was very happy
with the results,
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but when it was first exhibited
in the late '50s,
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people were utterly shocked.
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Some of the reviews thought
it looked violent, disgusting.
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One critic compared it to
a police photo of a murder scene.
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But that's not how Rauschenberg
saw this work at all.
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He later said that this is
one of the friendliest works of art
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that he ever created.
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He said his biggest fear was that
people might actually crawl in
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and want to have a little sleep.
And I think that's key.
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It tells us exactly what
Rauschenberg was all about
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as an artist.
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He was about inclusiveness,
welcoming in the world.
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Welcoming in reality to bridge
that gap between art and life
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and make this something that we,
ordinary people,
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can understand and relate to.
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It's part of our world, rather than
some elite zone of high art.
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At a very young age, he was clear
in what he didn't want to be,
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which was a, you know, wishy-washy,
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second-generation
Abstract Expressionist painter.
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He just dispensed
with this whole idea
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that paint served as a marker
for someone's psychic state.
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I mean, he always insisted
that things were just things
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and that was a key distinction
between him and an older generation.
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I'll tell you something
that I find slightly puzzling
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about the '50s work.
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You know, you've characterised
the way Rauschenberg
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went about trying to dismantle
Abstract Expressionism.
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At the same time, these combines
are intensely personal,
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autobiographical works.
Here's his son.
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There's the reading
of the homoerotic content
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of one of the most famous combines,
Monogram.
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You know, there's that famous
Robert Hughes line that
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this is almost one of the most
witty and compelling images
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of homosexual love,
of the goat penetrating the tyre.
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Oh, I guess I haven't thought
about that, I'm sorry, Alistair!
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SHE LAUGHS
Really? Yes. Amazing!
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Do you think it's got
some credibility? I'm sure it does.
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I mean, Rauschenberg is an artist
creating works of art
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and his interests and the things
in his life come in,
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and therefore sexuality
is part of it.
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He is a young, gay man
in a pre-Stonewall world
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and he's signalling
his relationships
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in various ways through his work.
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By the early '60s, Rauschenberg's
combines had earnt him a reputation
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as the bad boy
of the New York art world.
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But, by then, his relationship
with Jasper Johns was over.
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It ended because of
a very trite lovers' quarrel.
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To be specific, one day,
Jasper came back and found Bob
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in a compromising position with a
dancer from the Cunningham Company.
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I think it was very painful for them
and for their close friends
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for quite a long time afterwards.
Because it had been
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an extraordinarily
electrifying relationship.
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Some consolation for the mess
in his personal life
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came in the form of the most
prestigious professional recognition
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that any artist could hope for.
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In 1964, Rauschenberg
became the first American to win
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the grand prize for painting
at the Venice Biennale.
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And in that same year, he was given
his first British retrospective
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at London's Whitechapel Gallery.
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An event important enough
to be covered by the BBC.
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Brian. Yes? Did you check the bulbs?
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Well, the bulbs are all right
and I know it'll work at the moment.
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The fantastically inventive scope
of his work
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was quickly picked up
by the British press.
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This is a piece from the Observer
and it's headlined,
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"Rauschenberg:
new pace-setter in art."
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Here's another piece,
"Not Just A Joker."
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"An artist who solemnly presents us
with a stuffed and grubby chicken
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"perched on a box is a sitting
target for mockery."
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"Yet," he says, "I'd warn
against dismissing him
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"as a pretentious joker.
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"In my view, this 38-year-old Texan
is the most important artist
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"America has produced since
Jackson Pollock in the 1940s."
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'Rauschenberg has lived and worked
in New York since 1951
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'and even now he's painting more,
he still likes mixed techniques.
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'On Barge, he's used silkscreen
quite a lot,
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'his latest idea. A printed transfer
process which imposes
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'a real photographic image
on the canvas,
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'but has unreal printed texture
to offset the oil paint around it.'
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It was for his early
silkscreen paintings,
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started around the same time that
Andy Warhol seized on the technique,
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that Rauschenberg
had won the prize in Venice.
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But rather than cash in
on his success,
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he did something most people
would find incomprehensible.
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His response to winning
was to make a call to home
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to tell a friend to destroy
all of his silk screens.
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So he was determined that
once he was celebrated
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with a certain kind of work, that he
wasn't going to repeat it any more
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and he pushed himself
to reinvent himself wholly again.
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Perhaps not surprising, then,
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that just does Rauschenberg
was attracting international praise
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as a painter, he decided to head off
in a completely different direction.
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There's a biographical fact
about Rauschenberg
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that I find
particularly fascinating,
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and that is he was a superb dancer,
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despite the fact that,
growing up as a boy,
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his parents were
fundamentalist Christians.
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They'd been part of a very austere
sect that banned drinking
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and gambling and dancing as well.
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But, in the '50s, he started
collaborating regularly
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with Merce Cunningham, who had
an experimental dance company.
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But it wasn't until the '60s
that his passion for dancing,
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for performing, really took flight.
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MUSIC: Boogie Nights
by Heatwave
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He's always worked
at lots of different things,
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likes to get away from painting for
periods, mostly into the theatre.
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In Pelican,
his own roller-skate ballet,
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Rauschenberg reassured
the other dancers
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by trying out the movements himself.
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Even the music
is his own sound combine.
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Some of the performances
he did were stunning.
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The dance on roller skates -
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every time, it just had you,
your heart was in your throat.
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You were scared that something bad
was going to happen,
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because it looked so dangerous -
and it was.
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Um... Oh, my God!
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He would move around
this roller-skating rink
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and pick up a ballerina
and the contrast
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between her delicacy and grace and
these two guys on roller skates
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with their parachute wings
galumphing around,
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it was hilarious.
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It was always a lot of fun
to be in Bob's pieces.
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They were playful, imagistic...
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What was he doing
in terms of designing costumes
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and designing sets?
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In one piece of his, I had a harness
that had a screen over my head.
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Preposterous!
You know, in terms of a costume.
475
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,440
Bob was shooting images
of the Empire State
476
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,640
building onto the screen
and I was holding a watermelon
477
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,720
covered with a small cloth
478
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,280
and I pulled the cloth back and it
exposed the head of the watermelon
479
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,440
to the audience
and then drop it over again,
480
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,880
so it had kind of
a pornographic quality to it.
481
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,360
Sounds utterly outrageous!
482
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,400
It seems very natural to me,
when I think about the way he saw.
483
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Everything would be included
as part of his art-making.
484
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,920
You know, from Bob,
everything was acceptable, always.
485
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,360
It never felt too radical,
486
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,640
because it was him
and he just kept opening doors.
487
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,760
Wow, Julie. It's so big.
I know, it's amazing, isn't it?
488
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,360
I mean, you could really imagine
this... 150 feet.
489
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,400
In 1966, the 69th Regiment Armoury
in New York became the venue
490
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,520
for one of Rauschenberg's
most ambitious ventures.
491
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,240
A multimedia event held
over the course of nine evenings
492
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,080
that would blow the minds
493
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,680
of the 10,000 curious visitors
assembled there.
494
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,760
PSYCHEDELIC ROCK MUSIC PLAYS
495
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,720
'In January 1966,
ten artists from New York
496
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,880
'and 30 engineers
from Bell Telephone Laboratories
497
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,960
'began a collaboration that resulted
498
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,000
'in a series of dance, music
and theatre works.'
499
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,760
The events began with a piece
choreographed by Rauschenberg
500
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,880
called Open Score.
501
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
It started with a tennis game.
502
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Frank Stella and his tennis partner
came out and she measured the net,
503
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,520
totally serious,
and then they started playing.
504
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,080
RINGING CHIME
505
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920
The racquets were fixed
in such a way
506
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,480
that in the handle of the racquet
was a FM transmitter,
507
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,360
so every time the racquet
hit a ball,
508
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,200
the sound was transmitted to an FM
radio and then to the sound system,
509
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,240
so every time the ball was hit,
you heard this very loud bong.
510
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,560
One of the things about the armoury
which we discovered very quickly
511
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160
was that there
was a five-second echo.
512
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,160
SHE CLAPS
513
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,320
CLAP ECHOES
514
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,840
It's very... It is acoustic mayhem,
isn't it?
515
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,000
We knew about how this sound
was going to reverberate.
516
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520
This natural, beautiful sound.
517
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,200
And so he took full advantage of it.
518
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,840
CHIMES ECHO
519
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Each time the ball was hit,
520
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,840
one of the lights
around the armoury went out.
521
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,480
What happened towards the end? They
kept playing. Did they? They did.
522
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680
And once it was dark, completely,
the second part started.
523
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,200
500 people came onto the floor
in the darkness and as they came in,
524
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,960
they each said,
"My name is, my name is..."
525
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,800
I am Walter Segal.
526
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,640
I am Barbara Wold.
527
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,280
And then as the crowd's part
finished, the spotlight went on to
528
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,760
a figure in a sack and you began
to hear this voice singing.
529
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,240
CHORAL SINGING
530
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,840
And Bob would pick her up
and put her down at a certain point,
531
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,120
let her sing a bit longer, pick her
up and put her down somewhere else.
532
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,760
It's pure performance art.
533
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,520
It's very, very simple,
very human gestures.
534
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,520
Helping Rauschenberg
bring his performance to life was
535
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,360
a visionary scientist from Bell
Laboratories called Billy Kluver.
536
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640
Through the organisation
they formed -
537
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Experiments in Art and Technology -
538
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,920
the pair would go on to produce
inventive, interactive work
539
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360
that married art
with cutting-edge technology.
540
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,720
You know, looking back - EAT
and the collaborations with Bob -
541
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,560
it really was part of the utopian
enterprises of the '60s,
542
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,320
certainly with the election of JFK
and then with the moon travel,
543
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,280
it was incredible optimism
for America.
544
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,040
So the promise of technology
was quite strong and the promise
545
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,560
that the individual working with the
technology could make a difference.
546
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,280
And I think Bob was supremely
committed to that idea.
547
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,320
# OK, friends, it's time
for the Fatback Band
548
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,160
# Yeah
549
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,360
# Wicky-wacky... #
550
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,160
By the mid '60s, Rauschenberg
had enough money to buy himself
551
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,600
a large studio in
a converted Catholic orphanage
552
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,920
on Lafayette Street
in downtown Manhattan.
553
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,520
And it quickly became a favourite
hang-out for all the people
554
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,720
Rauschenberg was
collaborating with at the time.
555
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,280
It was like every day was a party.
556
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,360
It was always, you know, hilarious.
557
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,640
I mean, I just remember that
we just laughed a lot. You know?
558
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,000
You felt you were part of a family,
when you're sitting round the table,
559
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,960
Lafayette Street,
you're part of Bob's family.
560
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
I think a lot of people felt that.
561
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,280
Another regular visitor
to Rauschenberg's Lafayette studio
562
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,360
was his teenage son, Christopher.
563
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,360
So this is the kitchen.
564
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,640
This is the part of the house
where, really, everything happened.
565
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,880
I mean, yes, work was made in the
studio, but basically, everything...
566
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160
This was the conviviality in here?
567
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,240
So, you... I mean, as a boy,
you must remember this really well.
568
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,800
Yeah. You'd come in here,
this is where you'd see your dad.
569
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,840
And this is within walking distance
of my mum's house in Chinatown,
570
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,880
so I would just get off the subway
at Astor Place
571
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,920
and come in and hang out.
572
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,800
He always had Haagen Dazs ice cream
in there, so that was OK.
573
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Was this the original range
that was...?
574
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,840
Yeah, from the orphanage.
575
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,880
BAGPIPE-LIKE DRONE
What a noise! There you go.
576
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,080
John Cage wouldn't want me
to turn that sound off.
577
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,400
But maybe we will need some
hot holder here.
578
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,760
And who would you...?
579
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,040
I mean, if you walked up the stairs
and came into the kitchen
580
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,680
as we have just done... Yes?
..who typically might you run into?
581
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,840
Pretty much anybody.
582
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,160
So, you must have felt very
glamorous to be coming over here,
583
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,680
because here was this space, centre
of parties, this charismatic man
584
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,720
who was always at the centre of
attention, also dating other men.
585
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,840
Sure, yeah. He had great boyfriends.
586
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
You would meet them,
interact with them?
587
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,800
Oh, yeah. Sure. Yeah.
588
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160
They were terrific friends and
wonderful grown-ups for me to be
589
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,240
around when I was a young adult
or teenager, so it was all good.
590
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,520
So, I get the impression
that your memories of your dad
591
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,800
sound remarkably positive. Yeah.
592
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,120
But there is another element
about him that is very well-known,
593
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,680
which I imagine could have been
quite disruptive in a dad,
594
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,920
which is that he was an alcoholic.
595
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,840
What are your memories of that?
596
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,280
It depended.
597
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,000
I mean, there were periods
of his life
598
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,240
where he drank a lot and it was OK.
599
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:47,560
There was a period later in his life
where it was really a problem
600
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,320
and he was really struggling
and not, you know...
601
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,760
You witnessed this?
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
602
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,600
As in, he couldn't work?
603
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,880
Well, he always could work, but he
was really, sort of, tortured by it.
604
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,560
I don't think he made
much of his art while he was drunk.
605
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,840
I mean, I think if he was drunk,
he was drunk.
606
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,240
He was not
in a position to make art.
607
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:14,720
I mean, Bob had
an enormous ability to drink.
608
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,360
I've never seen anybody drink
like that in my life.
609
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040
I think he became dependent on it.
610
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,760
Did you see a change
in his personality as well,
611
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,200
the way he interacted
with other people?
612
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:34,000
He became less considerate of others
when he was drunk.
613
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,760
He was never nasty to me.
614
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,360
He could be cutting to people
when he was drunk.
615
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,560
But what was it that was
driving him to drink that much?
616
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,360
I don't...I don't know.
617
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,680
I only know that Bob
was a perceptual machine.
618
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Everything that was happening
in the world
619
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,040
was being loaded through
every pore of his skin.
620
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,640
That's a very heavy burden to carry.
621
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,800
In 1970,
with his drinking out of hand
622
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,320
and his creativity at a low ebb,
623
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,880
Rauschenberg decided it
was time to clean himself up,
624
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,560
get out of New York
and make a fresh start elsewhere.
625
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,240
# Sunday morning
626
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:46,520
# Brings the dawn in... #
627
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,160
The beautiful island of Captiva,
off the coast of Florida,
628
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,520
where Rauschenberg lived
for the next 40 years,
629
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,480
would provide the haven he'd need
to start working again.
630
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,640
Not a bad place in the world,
is it?
631
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Can we just stay here?
Yeah, I think we're done, right?
632
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,040
Exactly. Where's the towels and...?
633
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,680
The cocktails. Yeah.
634
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160
So, I mean, this is the place
where there are all of these...
635
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,400
I can see them already.
Oh, absolutely.
636
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,320
This is famous
for people collecting shells.
637
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,840
Yeah, one of the best
shelling places in the world.
638
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,720
And the fishing's amazing.
Bob, you know, every day.
639
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,440
So, he'd be like this man?
Absolutely.
640
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,400
There's pictures of him.
That pose is perfect.
641
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,840
When did he first come here?
642
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,080
Well, someone had told him
about this island and so he said,
643
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,920
"I'm going down there to check
it out," and what he told me was,
644
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,000
he got on the island,
he had to stop the car for a turtle
645
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,040
to cross the road
and he just loved that. That was it.
646
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,960
So then he bought this house.
647
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Come on in to the beach house.
This place is great.
648
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,880
If these walls could talk...
649
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,600
I'll tell you what I love about it,
it's not grand.
650
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,320
It's not massive, yeah.
It's not huge. Simple, yeah.
651
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,800
It's humble living. Absolutely.
652
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,880
And that's clearly part of the
thing - just keep it relaxed. Right.
653
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,880
He had no furniture,
cos he wanted it very minimal
654
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,240
and he actually added this wall,
655
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,520
because everything was
about hanging art, right?
656
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,320
So he needed more wall space.
So that was built and added.
657
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,600
If I was staying here, Matt,
I'd get nothing done. Exactly.
658
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,240
I'd sleep, I'd swim,
I'd snooze, I'd read.
659
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,080
Yeah. What was he doing?
660
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,760
His routine was, you know,
he worked late.
661
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,760
So he wasn't exactly
an early riser,
662
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040
but he would always get up,
take care of any of the business
663
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,480
that was going on - correspondence,
those kinds of things.
664
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,720
Kind of lunchtime this is going on?
Yeah, around ten.
665
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,280
Young And The Restless,
had to see the soap opera,
666
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,600
that was a definite. Well, it's just
wonderful. You know, there he is.
667
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,440
That's one of my favourite photos
of him.
668
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,880
And that smile, if you look at all
the pictures throughout his life,
669
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,920
that's what you see, is that smile.
670
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,160
So this was like the centre of
his universe for a long time, right?
671
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Yeah. From 1970,
he made 99% of his art,
672
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,720
if not a little bit higher,
here on this island.
673
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,920
So this, I think,
might have saved his life.
674
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,000
I think that coming here,
just giving him that licence
675
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,840
to just stop worrying about business
and things and make art.
676
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,760
I went to an astrologer once.
677
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:30,160
I was having some kind of
serious psychological dilemmas
678
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,360
and he said, "I'll tell you one
thing, don't go to the mountains.
679
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,160
"Hit the sun and the water."
680
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,560
I was worried about
how I would adjust to it.
681
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,320
I thought, "I'm going to miss
New York so much,"
682
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,960
and it turned out that I love it.
683
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,800
Today, thanks to a scheme run by
the foundation set up in his name,
684
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Rauschenberg's multifaceted approach
to art is kept alive
685
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,160
by a new generation of artists.
686
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,760
Bob had envisioned a residency
in Captiva being used for artists.
687
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,360
He was really about creative
exploration and I think that
688
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,200
the foundation has this natural
tendency to try different things,
689
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,560
to keep it very creative
and test some of those boundaries.
690
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,320
The fact that we are able
to have his studio full of these
691
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,840
really interesting artists,
in all fields from all over,
692
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,520
we are able to continue
doing the things he would do.
693
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Yeah, he's gone, but he is still in
conversation with millions of people
694
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,680
and they all come away deeply moved
by his spirit
695
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,840
and the generosity
and, "Let's all work together."
696
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,680
I already knew that Captiva
was a really special place,
697
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,120
but coming here to the fish house,
it's so surprising,
698
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,880
because Rauschenberg made art
that was frenetic, it was urban.
699
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,480
He had this restless spirit
and this place,
700
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,840
its magic is all about stillness
and tranquillity.
701
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,680
And I find it really moving,
702
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,560
thinking of this mercurial man
whose soul was in perpetual motion,
703
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:38,040
if you like, who needed to come
here, seeking peace, craving peace.
704
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,000
And it was this place that provided
him with that solace
705
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120
that he clearly always craved.
706
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,240
I think that Captiva
really was a parting of the seas,
707
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:56,720
of the noise of urban life and
allowing him to be a part of nature.
708
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,560
It was a place where he could
find his own ideas
709
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,680
and look at the natural environment
in a new way.
710
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,120
With his drinking now under control,
711
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,960
Rauschenberg started
creating new works
712
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,680
that, even on the tropical
island of Captiva,
713
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,480
were inspired by the everyday
materials he'd always been drawn to.
714
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:27,600
"A desire built up in me to work
in a material of waste and softness.
715
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,680
"Something yielding with its only
message a collection of lines
716
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,120
"imprinted like a friendly joke.
717
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:39,000
"A silent discussion of their
history exposed by the new shapes.
718
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,040
"Laboured, commonly
with happiness - boxes."
719
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,240
So any kind of imagery
720
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:49,520
on the cardboard series is what was
on the boxes when he found them -
721
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,520
"This side up,"
or "Handle with care," whatever.
722
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,200
It's not like he commissioned them.
723
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,480
These are boxes
that have genuinely been used.
724
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,880
So, when you see
the writing on them...
725
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,560
What does this say?
"Phillips plated."
726
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,880
It's just totally commercial things,
which he's turned into art.
727
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,040
Right. What are these
at the far end of the room?
728
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,160
This is a series that is called
Early Egyptians,
729
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,520
and those are cardboard boxes
730
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:19,160
that he then took out to the beach
in front of the studio
731
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,360
and covered them with an adhesive
and put sand on them
732
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,720
and then he painted the backs
with Day-Glo paint,
733
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,640
which then reflects in colour
against the wall.
734
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,600
You can see little hints of red
or other colours on them.
735
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,720
That's really hiding
the light under a bushel.
736
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,280
I mean, this is bright orange here.
737
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,600
I would never have known that
if you hadn't told me.
738
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,920
Can we look at
some of the other work?
739
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,320
This is an incredible sculpture.
What's this?
740
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,800
The specific work
is called Global Chute
741
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,040
and obviously
with the globe in the top
742
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,160
and what looks like a chute
from a rooftop or whatever.
743
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,360
This must be...
I mean, it genuinely looks like
744
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,760
a piece of architecture
that he salvaged. Right.
745
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,400
It's fallen off
the top of the building.
746
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,840
It's almost as though the Earth
is heading this direction,
747
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,720
towards the garbage.
748
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:08,320
How much was he thinking about,
from the '70s on,
749
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,400
real ecological,
environmental issues?
750
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,440
He was very concerned
with environmental issues.
751
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,120
There was a Captiva
conservation organisation,
752
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,720
so he was both concerned locally
with what was just around his house
753
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:22,760
and his studio and then globally -
754
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,760
if he could support a major cause
worldwide, he would that as well.
755
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,520
In the early '80s,
756
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,360
the social and environmental
concerns underpinning all of his art
757
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,560
saw a Rauschenberg shift his focus
beyond Captiva's calm shores.
758
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,320
He now embarked on an ambitious
humanitarian project,
759
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,960
crisscrossing the globe to promote
world peace through his art.
760
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,240
ROCI - the Rauschenberg Overseas
Culture Interchange -
761
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:02,320
would take him to 11 countries
and consume all his energies
762
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,400
for the best part of a decade.
763
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,320
Bob said, "I know what I want to do.
764
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,120
"I want to go to various countries,
765
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,600
"countries that are challenged
and look at the art of that country,
766
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,280
"meet with the indigenous people,
speak to students,
767
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,920
"sense the political situation
and gather information and objects
768
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,480
"to produce work as an offering
to the people of the country."
769
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,200
OK, important distinction.
770
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,280
Yes, "to the people of the country."
771
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,560
So, was this more
about art or perhaps
772
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,120
more about a kind of activism?
773
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,800
Well, I think it's both.
774
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,000
Many of the countries
were oppressive
775
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,040
and he wanted to offer
to tradition-bound people
776
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,320
an alternative way of seeing,
of feeling, of thinking.
777
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,320
It's a peace mission
without a missionary.
778
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Through information
about each other, around the world,
779
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,440
we might be able to stop
some of the stupidity
780
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,440
that are controlling us,
because I'm being controlled
781
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,400
by probably an equal amount
of stupidity as you are.
782
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,360
These paintings were all
from his exhibition in Cuba.
783
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,800
Oh, you can see, for instance, there
are some of the stars of there,
784
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,200
but this is
this old Cuban classic car. Right.
785
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,080
And this looks like a skull.
786
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,760
Bob felt that a work wasn't finished
until the viewer finishes the work
787
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,040
by coming to it
and bringing his reaction.
788
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,440
To show that in a physical way,
he put a mirror in it
789
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,280
and then there's the viewer
in the picture.
790
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,880
And particularly
disconcerting that here,
791
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,680
my head is almost directly
parallel with the skull.
792
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,520
If you stand in the right place.
793
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,480
That seems to be Rauschenberg's
funny joke.
794
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,760
They're always incredibly serious,
but very light-hearted
795
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,760
and humorous often and just pretty
much everything caught his eye.
796
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:21,120
These are some negatives
from when Bob was in Moscow.
797
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,520
So this is an example
of what he did in ROCI?
798
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,960
He'd go to a country and...
799
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Walk around, take pictures,
pick up debris.
800
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,000
Pick up whatever seemed to him
to speak of the place.
801
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,680
So what's caught his eye here?
802
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,040
There's architecture of the city,
is that an old woman on a bus?
803
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,600
Yes, I think that's the driver.
That's the driver, maybe.
804
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,640
Oh, yeah, so it is. And this is just
broken fencing or something,
805
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,080
but there's a great sense,
just looking at this,
806
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,080
it gives you that idea
of he's there presumably
807
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,120
with a camera the whole time -
click, click, click.
808
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Now, I may be biased, because
I'm a photographer, but to me,
809
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,800
his whole way of looking at
the world is the way a photographer
810
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,080
looks at the world. They look
at things that other people
811
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
would just walk by and say,
"Oh, that's nothing."
812
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,560
I think photography really
was very, very central.
813
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,800
I mean, I guess
you've pulled this out,
814
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,800
because is this him
writing about it?
815
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,240
Yes, yes. What does he say about it?
816
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:15,520
"My preoccupation with photography
in the beginning, 1949, was first
817
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,400
"supported by a personal conflict
between shyness and curiosity.
818
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,960
"The camera functioned
as a social shield.
819
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,120
"In 1981, I think of the camera
as my permission
820
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,920
"to walk into every shadow
or watch while any light changes.
821
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,280
"My concern is to move at a speed
within which to act.
822
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,520
"Photography is the most
direct communication
823
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,520
"in non-violent contacts."
824
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,000
Bob was not naive.
825
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,000
He certainly didn't think
that he was going to produce peace
826
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000
in our time through
the ROCI exhibition.
827
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,160
But I listened and watched
the dialogue between Rauschenberg
828
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,720
and people on the street.
829
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,560
He made a difference.
830
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,280
If you were on the street with him
and you realised how he
831
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,760
physically and literally
touched people with his humanity.
832
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,680
I mean, he exuded humanity.
833
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,640
He exuded caring.
834
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,240
Is Rauschenberg almost
this one-man United Nations?
835
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:18,240
Absolutely. He wanted a purity
to this and, in the end,
836
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,400
there was a decision on Bob's behalf
that he could not be seen
837
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,240
as taking funding from any
organisation or government.
838
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,880
And so he funded himself.
839
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:36,040
He sold his Twomblys and his
Jasper Johns, all to fund ROCI.
840
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,000
It's a testament to the integrity
of ROCI. Absolutely.
841
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,560
For Rauschenberg,
ROCI was a labour of love
842
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,200
and one cost him a personal fortune
of up to $10 million.
843
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:53,280
But to others, it seemed
a naively idealistic project.
844
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,480
I lost most of my dealers.
845
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,240
They thought this was a...
846
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:02,120
Sort of an extravagant waste of time
and talent.
847
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,240
But that was its function.
848
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,960
How best I could world-widely
waste my time and talent and money.
849
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,640
We did all three very well,
didn't we, Don?
850
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,200
That's a really good one.
851
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,880
With his professional fortunes
at an all-time low,
852
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,600
Rauschenberg retreated
to his vast studio in Captiva
853
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,600
and, regardless,
made new work based on imagery
854
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,240
from his travels for ROCI.
855
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,920
This is, essentially,
the fabrication studio downstairs
856
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,960
and the upstairs was where
he would create the works. Mm-hm.
857
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,600
Imagine, if you will,
858
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,240
it was a wall of racks
of silk-screens and there was
859
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:02,920
probably 500 silk-screens and they
were all lined up vertically.
860
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,520
But it was unique,
because Bob would be upstairs
861
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,960
and he would have this large book,
862
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,640
and he would say,
"Bring me Chile 203,"
863
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,440
or, "Japan 506," or whatever
and we would bring the screens up.
864
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,320
Then he would work on them.
865
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,400
But though Rauschenberg continued to
be inspired by his global adventure,
866
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,600
by the early '90s, New York's
art world felt he'd lost his way.
867
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,600
There was a pretty general wave
of turning against Bob
868
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,840
and the same thing
happened to Picasso
869
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,800
in the later stages of his career.
870
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,600
Critics began saying he hadn't done
anything good since 1938,
871
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,360
but with Bob, I think what happened
was that he's such a producer
872
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,920
and in Captiva, with a team around
him, and a lot of resistance,
873
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,960
the production
got larger and larger.
874
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,160
And in that situation,
you can't possibly expect everything
875
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,840
to be at the highest level.
876
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,440
But there was always
three or four or five
877
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,360
that were absolutely dead on
top flight Rauschenberg.
878
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,960
In the last decade of his life,
879
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,440
the rest of the art world seemed
to catch up with this thinking.
880
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,560
And the man who had become something
of an unsung prophet in his own land
881
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,960
was awarded
with a major retrospective
882
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,760
at New York's Guggenheim Museum -
883
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,640
recognition for an artist
who'd consistently
884
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,760
broken new ground over six decades.
885
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,960
But in 2002, aged 76,
America's arguably most prolific
886
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,520
and original artist
suffered a stroke
887
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,560
that left his right arm paralysed.
888
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,800
It was the beginning of the end
for a man who'd lived for his art.
889
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,720
I remember being in the studio one
day with him and we were looking at,
890
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:03,760
I think, the last set of paintings
that he made.
891
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,040
And it became kind of still
892
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,280
and sweet...
893
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,560
..and he began to cry.
894
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:21,200
And he said to me,
"Ernie, I have lost so much."
895
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,720
What did you say to him?
896
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,960
I told him that he had given us
so much
897
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,960
and that it would
always be with us
898
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,920
and that,
for a man who had lost so much,
899
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,880
it was a pretty fabulous
set of paintings.
900
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,560
What can you say to someone
you love, but be realistic?
901
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,640
Bob knew that his life
was soon to be over,
902
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,280
that he couldn't continue
to live like that.
903
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:57,720
By 2008, Rauschenberg's health
had dramatically declined.
904
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:01,440
And following heart disease, he was
put on a life-support machine.
905
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:12,080
Bob had been really almost sick
to death three other times,
906
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,640
in the intensive unit and whatever,
907
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,520
and he got well.
908
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,480
So I always felt that
he could make it through this one,
909
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,840
but then, he was so sick
910
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,120
and he wanted to go back to Captiva.
911
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,920
He did not want to die
in a hospital.
912
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,640
What happened at the very end,
Janet?
913
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,760
Because, as I understand it,
914
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:38,040
he took a conscious decision
to end things, didn't he?
915
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:43,200
He had a trachea thing
and they would not be able
916
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,320
to ever get him back
breathing on his own.
917
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,800
And so he didn't want to...
918
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,640
That was not the way
he wanted to live.
919
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,280
And I was just mortified by it and I
told him, I said, "Let's just wait.
920
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,920
"Maybe you'll get better."
921
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,520
And so he just kind of squeezed
my hand and he said,
922
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,680
"Let me go, please."
923
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,560
So, we had to do that.
924
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,720
I still miss him so much.
925
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,760
I think the best job in the whole
world was being Bob's little sister.
926
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,640
It was so much fun.
927
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,680
It was entertaining,
but it was meaningful, too.
928
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,840
I learned a lot from him. A lot.
929
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,600
He was such an amazing person -
930
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,040
his sense of humour,
he was such a giver.
931
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,680
And everybody would say that,
you know, there was just something.
932
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,400
One of a kind, broke the mould.
933
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,160
All those cliches, if you will,
that was Bob.
934
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,680
I would think from time to time,
as an art student,
935
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:51,960
that I wish I could have been around
the likes of Leonardo or Cezanne
936
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:57,280
or Picasso and then I realised,
especially towards the end,
937
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,200
that I had been in the presence
of that kind of genius.
938
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,040
He was profound, simply profound.
939
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,000
And we were all the beneficiaries
because of it.
940
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,640
So much of the work we see today
has its roots in things
941
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,280
that Rauschenberg did.
942
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,960
Every corner of his work can be
mined and used by younger artists,
943
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,920
as a starting point
or as an opening point.
944
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,360
He opened everything up.
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He opened the world up.
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And it's still going on.
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If you'd like to see more
of Robert Rauschenberg's arts,
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a major retrospective featuring many
of his greatest works
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is currently showing
at London's Tate Modern,
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before transferring to the Museum of
Modern Art in New York next spring.
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# Hey, hey, hey, hey
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# This is a perfect work
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# Your photograph. #
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