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You wanna do a sound check?
Yeah and two.
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Yeah. One, two, one, two, one, two.
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Okay. I think we're good.
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So, before we start,
I just wanna ask you, how's your memory?
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It's pretty good in some places and
absolutely completely nonexistent on others.
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But then it's written down
usually somewhere.
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And in the end I just think,
«Oh, what the hell?»
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With me, we cover a lot of ground,
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and it'll just be natural, you know.
Whatever happens…
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– Have you got a light?
– Yeah, sure.
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Well, I don't know whether
it's gonna be mystifying, you think?
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because that's what the band was.
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I'm amazed by it myself. I mean, it's…
You know what I mean?
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It's almost a fairy story, you know?
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Take three.
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Last week New York City finally got
to see and hear the Rolling Stones.
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I went to Madison Square Garden to meet
Mick Jagger, the singer with the group,
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a fascinating man.
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He's been described variously as
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the «supreme sexual object
in modern Western culture
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«with a compound of menace and energy,»
a «sadomasochistic freak» and a «pussycat,»
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various other things.
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and I think a fairly accurate one,
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when the Rolling Stones are in town.
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and exudes solid energy to 20,000 people.
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and I had three listless staff members
waiting for a cab for me.
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– Yeah, it's a great crowd for a morning show.
– Yeah.
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How did you sleep
after opening night last night?
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Say, I don't know
if I was supposed to see this or not,
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people offering little pills.
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– Vitamins and salt.
– Vitamins and salt pills.
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– Yeah.
– That's what they told me they were.
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– Yeah, A, E, C, and salt.
– But naturally I… Yeah.
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Drink the salt with plenty of water.
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– Yeah we can cut.
– Because I've gotta get ready.
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Oh, you talk to me like an actor,
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you know, I don't understand anything
about all those things,
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I just go on and do it,
I don't know about timing or anything.
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You give me the impression,
and I've watched you,
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No, it's not true.
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Water.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the Rolling Stones.
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All right! Good afternoon!
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So let's recap on the Rolling Stones,
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how did you all get together
in the first place?
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I think they all met in clubs,
in London jazz clubs.
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Actually, I answered an advert
for a bass player that was up,
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but the rest of them got together individually
in jazz clubs and formed a sort of group.
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Brian, how long have you been
with the Rolling Stones,
– And. we шш on now to Brian.
– Oh, hello.
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What were you doing before you joined?
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Well, just sort of bumming around
waiting for something to happen, really.
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but it was unsuccessful
until I met up with Mick and Keith.
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Do you think that perhaps the general public
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No, I don't know about that.
started getting maybe a little bit tired of
the Beatles and looked for something new?
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What could you say to a thing like that?
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Well, why did they start happening?
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Something sort of… Chemical reaction
seems to have happened somehow.
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What would you say happened?
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I really don't know.
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well the rise to popularity in the world
was very short.
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The first night there was about 80 people.
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The second night there was about 120,
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When you saw those crowds growing
every week,
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you knew that you were
striking a bell somewhere, you know,
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and that something was happening.
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Would you know why England became
the pop centre?
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and the right sort of visual image
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that the kids over the world
wanted at a particular time.
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I think between Mick, Brian and me,
we had a feeling,
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the idea to put a band that was
a little less show business
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was exactly at the right time.
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The show biz angle just was boring to us.
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Thank you!
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Of course we have to talk
about Andrew Oldham,
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who had been working for Brian Epstein
with the Beatles.
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He went around London and he heard
we were kicking up a storm in some clubs.
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He just looked around and said, «Hey,
there can't be just one band in England».
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so if you got heroes,
you've got an anti-hero like in a movie.
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Andrew decided that the Rolling Stones
were the bad guys.
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It wasn't just an accident.
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He thought the Rolling Stones
would suit that image.
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It helped to have people that go along with it
or will fit the bill.
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It's good to have an actor
who'll play the part.
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«We want the Stones! We want Mick!»
«We want the Stones! We want Mick!»
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It started, man, on the first tour,
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halfway through things start to get crazy.
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We didn't play a show after that
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that ever was completed,
I think, for two or three years.
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We would take bets
on how long a show would last.
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You know, «You're on. Ten minutes».
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so the cops, and people and the attendants
are dragging them out on stage,
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you know what I mean.
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I could see the water just running
down between the seats.
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All the girls in the audience
were wetting themselves.
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Girls wet themselves when they get excited.
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There were like these tiny, little girls
that would get in there
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and just scream
and you couldn't hear anything.
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I just was mouthing it,
hoping it was gonna be okay.
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Brian and I,
we'd play Popeye the Sailor Man.
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And then wait for the shit to hit the fan.
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And then you did a runner.
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Getting in and out
was the big deal of the day.
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I hated that.
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I hated being chased by girls and all that.
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I really, it used to really embarrass me.
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I wish I could have turned it off
when the show stopped.
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and getting into theatres
and away from them
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though you really were gonna be cut off
from getting caught in the crowd.
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Last night was bad.
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What is your worst experience?
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Yeah, he's very cool, isn't he,
he's very cool on his bike.
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That's why we ran into him.
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I guess the Rolling Stones
aren't everyone's cup of tea,
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There are whole armies of parents
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the Stones don't exactly generate
an aura of sweetness and light.
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has won them almost
as many enemies as fans.
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The Beatles are loved
by pretty well everybody
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from the mums down to the teenagers,
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but what's your real appeal to the fans,
do you think?
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You do tend to present a sort
of yobo-ish image, you know.
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– Yes, moronic…
– What's he talking about?
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I mean, why do you present this image?
Is it deliberate or is it a sort of…
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There are lots of morons at grammar schools,
you know.
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Wish this was all on film, man,
it could be great.
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You see, you're thrust into the limelight
in a youth-orientated thing.
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It's not about growing up,
it's about not growing up, in a way.
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Then you're about bad behaviour,
so then you start behaving badly.
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It was the weirdest situation.
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If you if you did something wrong,
even better.
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And the Beatles got the white hat, you know.
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What's left? The black hat.
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We never abided by any rules
that were gentlemanly things.
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Never did it.
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That was part and parcel of why
we just got ostracised by everyone.
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«You're a load of girls,»
and «Get your bloody hair cut!»
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And all this, you know, «Ha, ha, ha,»
make jokes about us,
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you just see them all laughing,
pointing and all that.
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It's obvious that you don't get your hair cut,
but do you get it trimmed from time to time?
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Last night? Certainly grown a lot since then.
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We were just refusing to conform
to what everybody wanted us to be.
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And I don't, honestly and sincerely,
don't have a tie, you see.
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I used to wear a tie,
but the boys didn't wear ties,
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and I thought I'd looked a bit out
if I wore one, so I stopped wearing them.
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Brian used to get upset
when they used to say,
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«I stood next to 'em and I could see
the fleas jumping off of their hair».
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They used to call us «Neanderthals»
and «The ugliest group in the world».
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– The four-letter words?
– No, the ones that are repeatable.
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We've been called just about everything
from beautiful to revolting.
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Brian was a very clever musician.
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He played bottleneck guitar,
electric, and nobody did that.
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Well, except in America,
but I mean nobody did it in London.
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He'd had more experience, I think, in playing,
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so he had some level
of musical accomplishment
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that really Keith and I really didn't.
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Brian and Keith had the worst humour.
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Cause they used to call
ordinary working people «Ernies,»
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and Brian always used to put his nose down
like this
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and put his ears out and talk like that.
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You know, like working people.
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Oh, they were awful.
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I mean, it was them against us
in the most obvious way,
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Sort of, I don't know, perverted anarchy.
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– I married one.
– You married a Rolling Stone?
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and being over those girls in Texas.
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No, it was in Florida. No, it was in Georgia!
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And what can you expect from Georgia?
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Georgia is full of idiots.
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That's right, yes.
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We're uncouth and obstinate.
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Hostile, maybe,
but I don't think vulgar and hostile.
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– Hostile when we're approached by…
– So many people don't like the truth, man.
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What do you give credit
for your success now? What is it?
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– Music.
– Music?
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– Music.
– Our records.
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Anything that you'd like to say right
now before the camera rolls out?
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– Good-bye!
– Good-bye!
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How much of your act is acting?
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Well, I suppose really all of it is acting,
you know.
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But it really there's a difference
between acting and not enjoying it
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It's like getting into a part.
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As a singer and doing a performance,
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you've gotta be very finely attuned
to what's going on in the audience.
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Little Richard literally taught me this stuff.
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I watched how he would
harangue the crowd almost.
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«Everybody stand up! I said stand up!»
You know, and they would.
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He was outrageous.
But it kept it all alive, you know,
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and you never quite knew
what was going to happen.
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In those days, we only played covers.
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The first album's all covers.
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I remember having to discussion,
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«Well, what are we gonna do now,
we can't make a second album of covers».
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We already knew we'd come to the wall there.
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Andrew Oldham said,
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«If you want to keep going, you've gotta…
You need new material.»
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Well, this is something
I couldn't have conceived.
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I was songwriter, it's like, hey,
the blacksmith does the ironwork,
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and the horse wears 'em,
you know what I mean?
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Suddenly, you know, just playing guitar
and playing blues,
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suddenly wasn't enough, you know.
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Now I wanted to invent things for me to play.
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I know, sometimes we can duplicate.
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– Sitting on a fence.
– Sitting on a fence?
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It's very hard to play the proper title.
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That's easy, that's good. That's all right.
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and couldn't make up his mind
between one girl and the other.
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And he couldn't stand sitting on the fence
because it was getting very painful.
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Well, we weren't maybe very good at it.
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But we were trying.
You know, maybe not everybody can write.
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We went on to write a whole load of crap.
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And we didn't dare
for months, and months, and months
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Oh, God, man, that's a whole other trip,
you know.
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The first song I remember writing
with the Rolling Stones was Tell Me,
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which is a tiny, minor, mini hit.
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You know, it was very gratifying
because we'd only done these cover songs.
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and that struck a chord with our audience.
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And you're connecting,
you're getting a lot of feedback.
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So you're, you're exchanging
with the audience a kind of ideas stream.
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What's your opinion of the Rolling Stones?
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and they're the best thing to ever happen
in the United States.
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They're so ugly that they're appealing.
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What would happen
if they took the Rolling Stones
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and all these other rock and rollers away.
What would happen to you kids?
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I don't know, these parents would
be very happy, I can tell you that much.
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How's your popularity in Europe
at this moment?
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Very good, I think. Very healthy.
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The kids are looking for something else,
or some different moral value,
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instead of just the same routine
their parents were born into.
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Splash on Ice Blue Aqua Velva.
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Creamy lather!
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I can't express myself in the right way
when I feel satisfied with the world.
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It's very easy if I feel very dissatisfied
with something, I can write about that.
231
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Why then if you think that most of your
records are about dissatisfaction and so on,
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why do you think you're so popular?
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Because most young people are dissatisfied.
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In what way?
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With the generation which they think
is running their lives.
236
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What things are you dissatisfied with?
237
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The generation that runs our lives.
238
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When these girls pounce upon Mick,
and seem to want to tear him to pieces,
239
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They want to incorporate his essence.
240
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It's a sort of fetish, fetishism,
which has more in common
241
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with people collecting the relics of saints,
242
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as they did in the ancient past,
there's really no break
243
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with the ancient tradition,
it's just a question of form.
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I've seen this with the most marvellous,
dramatic intensity
245
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and these girls, they wept,
they were possessed by the spirit,
246
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I mean complete physical
and mental absorption.
247
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I think that's very true and…
248
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But I think what's more interesting is
that in this country
249
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but, in the rest of the world, this isn't true.
250
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In lots of places, they're nearly all boys.
With the boys, it erupts, you know.
251
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they just beat the police up,
as a show of sort of strength,
252
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and a show of dissatisfaction
with something.
253
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We had riots every night.
254
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It was insane.
255
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I think they just wanted to be part of that
rebellious thing that we were instigating.
256
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They weren't attacking us,
it was always having goes at police.
257
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Now we're entering the area of social unrest
manifesting itself in a crowd situation.
258
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You're just merely the catalyst of the crowd,
259
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it could be anything, a football match,
but you're it on that day.
260
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That's just only half of the show.
261
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The other half of the show
is them participating in a riot.
262
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Well, the Stones seem to have a history
of creating violence wherever they go.
263
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does not like about Mick Jagger,
but perhaps what rankles most is
264
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that he speaks to a vast segment
of the population that they can't.
265
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the two generations eye each other
warily and distrustfully.
266
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It felt like an explosive moment.
267
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People felt this sensation
that something was going on
268
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that had never happened before
that they'd been waiting to happen.
269
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And it was at that same time in London
that all kinds of shit was hitting the fan.
270
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And of course we joined in.
271
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Our sort of success is a first-class ticket,
272
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you know, to a lot of things.
273
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LSD, and cocaine,
heroin and all these things.
274
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What do you think of LSD? Is it nice?
275
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It's very nice, I think. LSD's very nice.
276
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It was like an orgy of drugs, actually.
277
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And those drugs were a great interest
to the press and the general public.
278
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that liked to reveal the faults in society,
and they follow people,
279
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they put private detectives on people
and unfortunately…
280
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There's a set of unfortunate circumstances…
281
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So, we're having this party
at Keith's house in Redlands,
282
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and we went off for this expedition.
283
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We took acid, and then
it took a long while to start. It always does.
284
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And we met someone
who was milking a cow.
285
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I don't like milk very much.
286
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And they said,
«Oh, come on, Mick, try the milk».
287
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When you're on acid,
you know, everything's different.
288
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I still didn't like the milk, I mean, acid,
fresh, cow, you know, everything.
289
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And we walked back down to the car
and went back to Redlands,
290
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and by which time it was evening.
291
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So we're all coming down,
and it's a very smooth come-down.
292
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And bang-bang-bang on the door.
293
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What had been a lovely day on acid,
turned out to be a really unpleasant evening.
294
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The News of the World told the police
there was a big drug party,
295
00:39:25,167 --> 00:39:28,375
and they should go
and break it up and arrest everybody.
296
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A national newspaper
had tipped off the police
297
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that it would be worth their while
to raid Richards' home
298
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for drugs on the Sunday afternoon,
299
00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:40,000
and the raid was carried out
on that Sunday evening.
300
00:39:40,083 --> 00:39:41,583
There was a gasp of pure horror
301
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from the youngsters crowded
into the public gallery.
302
00:39:43,833 --> 00:39:46,833
At the moment, Judge Block
said sternly to Richard
303
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that the offence carried
a maximum sentence of 10 years.
304
00:39:56,208 --> 00:39:57,750
Because they thought
we're gonna be put away
305
00:40:00,375 --> 00:40:02,708
and people were going
to have prison sentences.
306
00:40:02,792 --> 00:40:06,333
It wasn't just a fine
and a rap across the knuckles.
307
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We just kinda thought
that was the end of the band, really.
308
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We never knew who was going
to be in or out of jail,
309
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and whether there was a future and all that.
310
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Did you feel that you were being persecuted
for being a Rolling Stone?
311
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And fun for the press.
312
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Prawn cocktail, roast lamb with mint sauce,
fresh strawberries and cream,
313
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twenty-one and six for Jagger.
314
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and a half bottle of Beaujolais
at 10 bob a head for each.
315
00:40:55,208 --> 00:40:57,208
He's pointing, calling me «reprobate,»
316
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and, you know, «menace to society,»
and all that.
317
00:41:02,333 --> 00:41:08,417
All I said was,
«Sir, I'm not interested in your petty morals».
318
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Which gave me a year in the slammer.
319
00:41:13,167 --> 00:41:17,375
There was a dead silence as the judge added,
«You will go to prison for one year».
320
00:41:17,458 --> 00:41:22,000
And Richard, who earlier had talked in his
evidence of what he called, «petty morals,»
321
00:41:22,083 --> 00:41:24,542
went down to the cells without expression.
322
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Jagger put his hand to his face
as he was given three months.
323
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Mick was taken to Brixton,
and they sent me to Wormwood Scrubs,
324
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which is, like, even worse.
325
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It's like Folsom.
326
00:41:50,375 --> 00:41:53,708
and we're walking around
this courtyard in a circle, you know,
327
00:41:53,792 --> 00:41:56,083
exercise, it's called.
328
00:41:56,167 --> 00:42:00,625
And then I get a tap on the shoulder
from one of the other cons behind me.
329
00:42:00,708 --> 00:42:03,083
And he says, «You're out».
330
00:42:03,167 --> 00:42:05,833
He said, «We heard it on the radio».
331
00:42:05,958 --> 00:42:08,000
Thank Christ for that.
332
00:42:08,667 --> 00:42:12,667
London, it's years since such crowds
gathered to await an appeal verdict.
333
00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:16,375
But this was a Rolling Stones case,
with the fans out in force.
334
00:42:16,458 --> 00:42:18,833
When Mick Jagger
was conditionally discharged
335
00:42:18,917 --> 00:42:20,917
and Keith Richards' sentence quashed,
336
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,708
the pop idols drove off,
the shadow of jail no longer over them.
337
00:42:27,458 --> 00:42:30,500
I think I looked at it at the time as like,
«They can try all they want,
338
00:42:30,583 --> 00:42:33,917
«they won't make it stick
because I've got all these people out there.
339
00:42:44,208 --> 00:42:46,708
because people are doing that for you,
don't forget people are saying,
340
00:42:49,208 --> 00:42:54,375
It cemented our relationships
with our generation, with the public.
341
00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:58,958
And it sort of gave us a badge of honour,
in a way, you know.
342
00:42:59,042 --> 00:43:02,875
To me it just made me, like, say,
«Okay, now you know who I am.
343
00:43:03,125 --> 00:43:07,750
«You've basically given me a licence now».
It was Jesse James time.
344
00:43:07,833 --> 00:43:10,500
I mean the cops turned me into a criminal.
345
00:43:10,583 --> 00:43:14,667
You know that's when
I started carrying a shooter in America.
346
00:43:14,750 --> 00:43:16,375
So, the outlaw was born?
347
00:43:19,667 --> 00:43:22,417
That was when we really put
the black hat on, you know?
348
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,667
I mean before that,
it was just sort of off-grey.
349
00:44:44,208 --> 00:44:47,417
And you're going to do what I can't.
350
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:51,750
Okay. That's a very easy role to slip into.
351
00:44:51,833 --> 00:44:55,333
There's a slot available,
and it was just built for me.
352
00:44:59,125 --> 00:45:02,792
If you're a method actor,
you always stay in character.
353
00:45:04,208 --> 00:45:05,875
This character has changed.
354
00:45:08,708 --> 00:45:11,083
It's not just one change, he's gone through,
355
00:45:12,667 --> 00:45:16,167
you know, every six months another person.
356
00:45:21,333 --> 00:45:23,583
You can only act what's in you.
357
00:45:31,667 --> 00:45:35,000
«been through the mill
and come out the other side smiling».
358
00:45:38,833 --> 00:45:43,583
because my inspiration for that came
from Baudelaire and The Master of Margarita,
359
00:45:43,667 --> 00:45:46,000
and so I had all these things going on.
360
00:45:55,292 --> 00:45:57,875
It's very much for the time and everything.
361
00:45:57,958 --> 00:46:01,042
I mean, it's got the violence of the time in it.
362
00:46:02,250 --> 00:46:03,542
It's provocative.
363
00:46:53,542 --> 00:46:55,750
and reflect it back again,
364
00:46:55,833 --> 00:46:58,958
and then of course it goes
into a feedback loop.
365
00:47:50,417 --> 00:47:53,208
I mean, in a way,
the Rolling Stones overtake you.
366
00:47:54,333 --> 00:47:57,333
And it's almost like you're sort of levitating.
367
00:47:59,083 --> 00:48:03,000
You don't even want to touch the strings
'cause they're doing it themselves.
368
00:48:03,125 --> 00:48:04,792
And, anyway, they'd be too hot.
369
00:49:26,875 --> 00:49:31,167
He played all these things,
which gave what we did a flavour,
370
00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:39,917
Keith and I took drugs, but Brian took
too many drugs of the wrong kind,
371
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,583
and he wasn't functioning as a musician.
372
00:49:42,667 --> 00:49:45,000
I don't think he was
that interested in contributing
373
00:49:45,083 --> 00:49:47,500
to the Rolling Stones any more.
374
00:49:51,708 --> 00:49:54,500
If he turned up,
we'd find something for him to do.
375
00:50:01,208 --> 00:50:06,250
But, no, by then he was already in,
you know, bye-bye land.
376
00:50:07,917 --> 00:50:10,542
You certainly didn't know
if he was gonna turn up
377
00:50:11,708 --> 00:50:14,542
and then what was he gonna be able
to do in that state,
378
00:50:14,625 --> 00:50:16,667
what job could you give him.
379
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:19,375
And then one time
when we sat around on the floor,
380
00:50:19,458 --> 00:50:23,583
we played in a circle,
playing No Expectations,
381
00:50:26,667 --> 00:50:28,333
which you can hear on the record.
382
00:50:42,625 --> 00:50:47,667
And that was the last thing
I remember him doing that was Brian,
383
00:50:52,375 --> 00:50:56,083
and it made the record sound wonderful.
384
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:31,000
My ultimate aim in life
was never to be a pop star.
385
00:51:31,083 --> 00:51:34,958
I enjoy it with reservations.
386
00:51:35,458 --> 00:51:40,833
But I'm not really sort of
satisfied either artistically or personally.
387
00:51:58,167 --> 00:52:00,542
Let's face it.
388
00:52:00,625 --> 00:52:03,833
The future as a Rolling Stone
is very uncertain.
389
00:52:14,667 --> 00:52:16,958
We did need somebody else.
390
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,792
No. Can't remember.
391
00:52:24,333 --> 00:52:28,000
But I remember it wasn't very nice.
392
00:52:35,333 --> 00:52:38,667
It was a very, very difficult decision to make.
393
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,667
spent the beginning of the band with
and, I mean, it was horrible.
394
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,625
and he sort of said, «Yes, it isn't».
And, it was very sad.
395
00:52:58,833 --> 00:53:03,500
And it was, I felt awful afterwards,
I remember that, I felt really terrible.
396
00:53:14,375 --> 00:53:16,875
You know, did something
more than just that.
397
00:53:30,333 --> 00:53:33,333
We were working in the studio
with Jimmy Miller.
398
00:53:35,792 --> 00:53:39,000
And someone came in and said,
«Brian's just died».
399
00:53:40,458 --> 00:53:44,458
Everybody just looks at each other and goes,
400
00:53:44,542 --> 00:53:45,875
«Finally».
401
00:53:48,417 --> 00:53:52,417
It was almost like it was bound to happen,
one way or another.
402
00:53:53,792 --> 00:53:56,083
It was a horrible moment,
403
00:54:00,667 --> 00:54:02,458
He died three weeks later.
404
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,667
Fuck.
405
00:54:05,208 --> 00:54:09,250
About midnight, Jones went for a swim
with his Swedish girlfriend, Anna Wohlin,
406
00:54:09,333 --> 00:54:12,000
and another friend, Mr Frank Thorogood.
407
00:54:12,083 --> 00:54:16,042
After a time, Mr Thorogood
and the girl went back to the house.
408
00:54:16,125 --> 00:54:19,167
When they returned they saw Jones
at the bottom of the pool,
409
00:54:19,292 --> 00:54:20,625
and they pulled him out.
410
00:54:57,875 --> 00:54:59,917
You know, it doesn't hit you straight away,
411
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,333
I mean, I think my first reaction was, «Brian,
after all of the things we've been through,
412
00:55:07,292 --> 00:55:10,792
«it's, you know,
you don't have to croak over it».
413
00:55:14,667 --> 00:55:17,083
Was there a reason
you didn't go to his funeral?
414
00:55:17,167 --> 00:55:19,125
It was gonna be too much of a circus.
415
00:55:25,667 --> 00:55:27,917
They didn't have one.
416
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,917
We're like that in my family, you know?
My dad is now an oak tree.
417
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,083
We put his ashes
in this enormous oak tree growing,
418
00:55:38,208 --> 00:55:41,708
And my mom, she said,
«Don't make no fuss over me, boy».
419
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,500
I promise I'll make no fuss, Mom.
420
00:55:49,333 --> 00:55:51,500
And Hyde Park was the funeral.
421
00:55:51,833 --> 00:55:55,167
And the bit about burying
and the shovels and all of that,
422
00:55:55,292 --> 00:55:59,000
it's not that important to me,
that was his funeral.
423
00:55:59,167 --> 00:56:03,000
The Hyde Park concert was
two days after Brian died.
424
00:56:03,083 --> 00:56:06,208
In front of almost 500,000 people in London.
425
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,958
but it had assumed that feeling.
426
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:19,958
That morning of the concert,
they all met in my suite.
427
00:56:21,333 --> 00:56:23,875
Mick was in the corner and he was in tears.
428
00:56:25,333 --> 00:56:30,542
I said, «Mick, you've gotta
just toughen up and move on.
429
00:56:30,625 --> 00:56:32,500
«That's all you do, that's all we can do.
430
00:56:32,583 --> 00:56:35,542
«We just move on
and do what we planned to do».
431
00:56:53,375 --> 00:56:56,292
with these seven days in bed,
and they're true to life.
432
00:56:56,583 --> 00:56:58,542
They're totally anti-establishment,
433
00:56:58,625 --> 00:57:01,375
and everybody in the establishment
has always bugged the Stones.
434
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:03,708
And people are gonna have
that feeling for them.
435
00:57:03,792 --> 00:57:05,542
What do you make of all this?
436
00:57:05,625 --> 00:57:09,292
As a member of the older generation,
do you think it's all out of place here?
437
00:57:10,667 --> 00:57:14,708
Of course, in a way, yes. Of course.
438
00:57:14,792 --> 00:57:18,083
What about your wife?
What do you make of this, madam?
439
00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:27,000
instead of, you know,
the normal view, you know, grass.
440
00:57:32,833 --> 00:57:39,167
And it was like a sort of talk about,
into the deep end.
441
00:57:40,167 --> 00:57:45,000
«Oh, let's try a club or two first».
Naw, Hyde Park, 500,000.
442
00:57:47,417 --> 00:57:50,917
But I think it was a good baptism
of fire for Mick Taylor.
443
00:58:19,875 --> 00:58:25,625
I think, basically, it was their decision
to start touring again.
444
00:58:26,292 --> 00:58:29,708
Because before I joined the group,
they'd been making records.
445
00:58:29,792 --> 00:58:33,667
They hadn't really played before the public
for nearly two years.
446
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:37,250
So in a sense, when I joined the group,
it was virtually a new group.
447
00:58:59,125 --> 00:59:01,750
I was 20, almost 21.
448
00:59:06,667 --> 00:59:08,917
I got a phone call from Mick saying
449
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,500
the Stones will need
a replacement for Brian, and…
450
00:59:12,875 --> 00:59:15,000
So I became part of the band.
451
00:59:33,167 --> 00:59:36,583
We were playing at stadiums,
that were, you know, full.
452
00:59:36,667 --> 00:59:39,208
You could sort of
glance back over the amplifiers,
453
00:59:39,292 --> 00:59:41,500
and you could see the limousines bouncing,
454
00:59:41,583 --> 00:59:46,042
you know, because the energy in the stadium
was so… It was electric.
455
00:59:53,208 --> 00:59:57,083
Two guitars together, if you get it right,
456
00:59:57,167 --> 00:59:59,833
it can become like an orchestra.
457
00:59:59,958 --> 01:00:03,083
And Mick Taylor's a virtuoso.
458
01:00:24,958 --> 01:00:26,375
Oh, yeah!
459
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:29,000
Thank you kindly!
460
01:00:32,542 --> 01:00:35,000
– How old were you then?
– Thirteen.
461
01:00:35,458 --> 01:00:36,833
– Do you have tickets?
– Yes.
462
01:00:37,333 --> 01:00:41,292
There's a rumour that Mick Jagger's
supposed to come out in his birthday suit.
463
01:00:41,375 --> 01:00:42,917
Are you expecting that?
464
01:00:43,417 --> 01:00:45,500
I hope he does.
465
01:00:45,583 --> 01:00:47,833
– You won't be shocked?
– Of course not!
466
01:01:31,167 --> 01:01:34,667
At the end of the '69 tour,
we went to Muscle Shoals,
467
01:01:34,750 --> 01:01:40,500
and we cut Wild Horses, Brown Sugar
and You Gotta Move, which are great tracks.
468
01:01:50,958 --> 01:01:53,333
During those recording sessions,
or just before,
469
01:01:53,458 --> 01:01:57,750
somebody must have put it
to somebody in the Stones organisation
470
01:01:57,833 --> 01:02:00,083
that we went to Altamont to do a free concert.
471
01:02:05,167 --> 01:02:08,417
It was never planned
to be part of the 1969 tour.
472
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,583
It was really just a throwaway.
473
01:02:14,667 --> 01:02:17,417
You know, a lot of these free shows
were going on, and we said,
474
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,917
well, you know, «Why don't we do one?»
475
01:02:20,667 --> 01:02:24,417
I read in one of the papers that you will be
giving a free concert in San Francisco.
476
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:27,333
We are doing a free concert in San Francisco.
477
01:02:27,417 --> 01:02:30,167
– When?
– On December 6th.
478
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:36,917
It's creating a sort of a microcosmic society,
which sets an example to the rest of America,
479
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,250
as to how one can behave
in large gatherings.
480
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,042
Your mind is not really on that gig,
481
01:02:43,125 --> 01:02:47,250
so we'll just get it together, and when they've
got it together, we'll go there and do it.
482
01:02:48,542 --> 01:02:50,500
Just a quick question, though,
you were at Woodstock,
483
01:02:52,708 --> 01:02:54,542
How does it stack up, do you have the room.
484
01:02:57,542 --> 01:02:59,375
Well, it's going to be San Francisco.
485
01:03:00,625 --> 01:03:04,625
You know, we were doing an arena tour
and jumped off the engine
486
01:03:04,708 --> 01:03:07,792
to free concerts in empty hills.
487
01:03:26,292 --> 01:03:28,125
They hit Mick, somebody hit him!
488
01:03:37,875 --> 01:03:43,917
There are a number of people on and around
this stage who should not be here.
489
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,125
No!
490
01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:49,417
I want to see Mick Jagger, God damn!
491
01:03:51,083 --> 01:03:53,333
The whole thing was out of control.
492
01:03:53,833 --> 01:03:59,542
I mean, all normality and control had gone,
there was no, nothing.
493
01:04:09,708 --> 01:04:12,750
The Hells Angels were
the people doing the security,
494
01:04:12,833 --> 01:04:16,917
so, you know, we thought, «That's the way
they do things in San Francisco,» you know.
495
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,333
It was a very hippie, dippie thing.
496
01:04:21,375 --> 01:04:26,250
Except, these were actual, proper
Hells Angels.
497
01:04:27,167 --> 01:04:32,458
It was a bit like asking the Nazi Party
to sort out the front of the auditorium.
498
01:04:34,917 --> 01:04:37,833
When I got a bad vibe about it,
499
01:04:37,917 --> 01:04:40,833
was when I saw the condition of the Angels.
500
01:04:42,833 --> 01:04:46,500
Now I can tell, these guys are
on acid and ripple wine.
501
01:04:48,167 --> 01:04:54,500
And they're already in the early afternoon,
they're starting to get antsy, you know.
502
01:04:59,792 --> 01:05:03,167
These guys are out there,
just looking for trouble.
503
01:05:14,333 --> 01:05:15,833
And I think, «Uh-oh».
504
01:05:17,333 --> 01:05:19,500
This will get ugly tonight.
505
01:05:21,208 --> 01:05:22,667
And it did.
506
01:05:36,875 --> 01:05:38,833
Oh, babies.
507
01:05:41,667 --> 01:05:43,667
There are so many of you.
508
01:05:44,833 --> 01:05:48,333
Just be cool down up front there
and don't push around.
509
01:05:50,542 --> 01:05:53,417
Just keep still, keep together.
510
01:05:56,250 --> 01:05:57,292
Oh, yeah.
511
01:07:36,167 --> 01:07:40,333
and we didn't know how to control it, stop it,
it was completely out of our control.
512
01:07:40,458 --> 01:07:42,500
It was just a nightmare.
513
01:08:00,167 --> 01:08:04,375
I'm sure it's far more frightening to
people in the audience than it was for us.
514
01:08:04,833 --> 01:08:09,833
Keith! Keith! Keith!
Keith, will you cool it, and I'll try and stop it.
515
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,000
Everybody just cool out!
516
01:08:17,208 --> 01:08:20,375
What we should have done is
just close shop and gone home.
517
01:08:20,458 --> 01:08:25,708
But you couldn't. You got 300,000 people
out there that have come, you know.
518
01:08:25,792 --> 01:08:29,542
People, I mean, who's fighting
and at what for?
519
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:35,167
If we'd have walked off,
I think there would have been a riot.
520
01:08:35,250 --> 01:08:37,042
Why are we fighting?
521
01:08:37,542 --> 01:08:41,667
So I just did the best I fucking could
under bad circumstances, you know?
522
01:08:43,708 --> 01:08:45,875
If he doesn't stop it, man!
523
01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:50,833
Listen, either those cats cool it, man,
or we don't play.
524
01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:56,833
It was just realising
that you were out of control.
525
01:08:56,958 --> 01:08:59,167
The whole thing was out of control.
526
01:09:00,417 --> 01:09:05,250
If you were in any kind of arena or theatre,
you can just leave, you know, off stage.
527
01:09:05,333 --> 01:09:08,833
There wasn't, you were very aware
that you were sort of surrounded,
528
01:09:08,917 --> 01:09:12,208
so you were very vulnerable,
so that was the feeling.
529
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,167
That's why you shouldn't have
been in this situation.
530
01:09:20,583 --> 01:09:23,042
And then some bastard gets killed.
531
01:09:45,708 --> 01:09:47,042
What happened here anyway?
532
01:09:47,125 --> 01:09:48,500
– He pulled out a gun.
– He did?
533
01:09:48,583 --> 01:09:50,875
Yes. The Hells Angels took
the gun away from him.
534
01:09:50,958 --> 01:09:52,917
One of them has it now, he showed it to me.
535
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,375
And they proceeded to put him down
on the ground and started kicking him.
536
01:10:01,375 --> 01:10:04,083
We tried to keep him alive, and when we got
here, the doctor checked him out,
537
01:10:04,167 --> 01:10:06,958
– and that was it.
– We pronounced him dead at 6:20.
538
01:11:05,792 --> 01:11:10,292
We were pretty beat up after Altamont.
539
01:11:13,125 --> 01:11:17,292
We were always thought
of after that as dangerous.
540
01:11:17,417 --> 01:11:18,500
We weren't really dangerous,
541
01:11:18,583 --> 01:11:21,000
but that's the way they looked at it,
you know.
542
01:11:23,625 --> 01:11:29,208
You had to endure all this
bloodletting and blame-throwing.
543
01:11:32,667 --> 01:11:36,333
We were in this maelstrom daily.
544
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,333
And you were just being dragged
all the way down this river.
545
01:11:44,667 --> 01:11:48,500
It's all a bit of a kaleidoscope.
546
01:11:48,583 --> 01:11:50,708
I was definitely on another planet at the time.
547
01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:57,500
Everybody's got a different way of dealing,
548
01:11:58,042 --> 01:12:02,042
and I didn't for a while, I took to the stuff.
549
01:12:03,333 --> 01:12:07,833
As I say, I never had a problem with drugs,
I just had a problem with cops.
550
01:12:08,542 --> 01:12:13,708
I'd been pushed up against my front door
by them leaping out of the bushes.
551
01:12:13,792 --> 01:12:17,875
They were just harassment, really.
You know there was a definite move on.
552
01:12:17,958 --> 01:12:21,875
It became obvious that, you know,
you had to make a decision.
553
01:12:21,958 --> 01:12:24,250
«Okay, we're moving».
554
01:12:27,167 --> 01:12:30,500
Keith always says that he was chased out
of England by the cops.
555
01:12:35,833 --> 01:12:39,125
The real reason the band left was money.
556
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:48,708
We discovered in 1971 that we all owed
in the region of 100,000 pounds each.
557
01:12:54,542 --> 01:12:58,958
we decided that the best way of doing
that was to leave the UK.
558
01:13:01,625 --> 01:13:04,500
You know, we got shipped to France.
559
01:13:07,167 --> 01:13:10,833
I think in France I felt a sort of
lifting of the weight
560
01:13:10,917 --> 01:13:13,292
that I didn't realise was on me in England.
561
01:13:17,667 --> 01:13:20,708
We couldn't find a studio
in the south of France,
562
01:13:20,833 --> 01:13:24,667
so eventually we were rummaging,
I said, «I've got an enormous basement».
563
01:13:24,792 --> 01:13:28,708
I'd love to live on the factory, you know?
Saves going to the studio.
564
01:13:28,792 --> 01:13:31,292
It was great, just go downstairs.
565
01:13:36,667 --> 01:13:41,292
That whole period was incredibly intense
because it was a new beginning for the band,
566
01:13:42,625 --> 01:13:46,667
and once we picked up our guitars,
we were in our own world.
567
01:13:58,542 --> 01:14:03,958
and 9:00/10:00 at night
until 7:00 or 8:00 in the morning.
568
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:09,125
The idea of playing a note
before the sun went down was ludicrous.
569
01:14:10,333 --> 01:14:12,000
I mean, it's like Dracula time.
570
01:14:18,708 --> 01:14:20,917
My kind of structure is
a kind of loose structure,
571
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,042
but when you have
no structure, it's really bad.
572
01:14:25,333 --> 01:14:28,167
Recording in the south of France
was like that
573
01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:31,000
because of all the drugs and everything.
574
01:14:40,208 --> 01:14:44,833
It gave me a space that I probably
wouldn't have found otherwise.
575
01:14:44,917 --> 01:14:49,667
I'd take anything if it helps me stay up
long enough to finish this damn song.
576
01:15:24,833 --> 01:15:27,542
You know, we would almost get
to the point of recording a song,
577
01:15:27,625 --> 01:15:31,750
Keith would have to leave because
he wanted another fix or whatever reason.
578
01:15:33,042 --> 01:15:38,125
Instead of working on a song for two hours,
you worked on it for two fucking weeks.
579
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,333
It just becomes disorganised.
580
01:15:50,375 --> 01:15:53,500
You got some recording engineers
strung out on heroin, you know,
581
01:15:53,583 --> 01:15:55,875
because they all want
to be strung out on heroin
582
01:15:57,542 --> 01:16:01,542
Well, it isn't the thing to do
for a recording engineer, I can assure you.
583
01:16:03,667 --> 01:16:07,750
I thought it was quite amusing a lot of it.
584
01:16:07,833 --> 01:16:11,167
People sort of… They hang around Keith,
585
01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:14,000
and they think they're Keith.
It's like… It's ridiculous.
586
01:16:22,542 --> 01:16:25,417
Like your band always thrives
587
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:27,917
– when there's…
– Adversity.
588
01:16:29,292 --> 01:16:32,667
I don't know, probably by then,
589
01:16:40,167 --> 01:16:44,208
«We may go down, but we're not
going down your way,» you know.
590
01:16:44,792 --> 01:16:47,667
So it kind of got
where the bulldog comes out.
591
01:17:04,083 --> 01:17:08,500
Before the 1972 tour, there was a letter
from the US State Department
592
01:17:08,667 --> 01:17:14,125
basically saying that if there was
any kind of fallout, we could be in trouble.
593
01:17:21,292 --> 01:17:25,250
They made a lot of threatening noises,
which creates this back-to-the-wall,
594
01:17:25,333 --> 01:17:27,417
Winston Churchill kind of stuff.
595
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:32,167
That's all very, kind of, galvanising
and breeds a nice team spirit.
596
01:17:32,458 --> 01:17:34,167
If there are a lot of people who are convinced
597
01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:38,375
that, in some way, you and your music
are an evil influence.
598
01:17:39,083 --> 01:17:41,417
That must be a challenge
that you would take seriously
599
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:44,042
– and want to reply to…
– Oh, yeah, I don't take it seriously any more.
600
01:17:44,125 --> 01:17:45,458
I think we've won, you know.
601
01:17:58,333 --> 01:18:00,417
Were there any rules on that tour?
602
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:02,000
Rules?
603
01:18:02,917 --> 01:18:05,458
There's no rules on any of them.
604
01:18:11,500 --> 01:18:14,000
Hedonism was very much on the rise.
605
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,958
It was the hedonistic period.
606
01:18:29,167 --> 01:18:32,667
The idea of being restrained and disciplined
607
01:18:33,792 --> 01:18:36,917
was, perhaps, a kind of no-no.
608
01:18:41,917 --> 01:18:46,625
It's got its own film crew,
it's got journalism, it's got its celebrities.
609
01:18:48,833 --> 01:18:55,583
It becomes more than just a tour,
it becomes the grand event.
610
01:19:06,542 --> 01:19:11,000
its rather ill-disciplined,
hedonistic binge around America.
611
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,333
Ladies and gentlemen, the Rolling Stones.
612
01:20:19,833 --> 01:20:22,000
When we got together, something happened.
613
01:20:22,083 --> 01:20:26,208
Something magical happened,
and no one could ever copy that.
614
01:20:29,083 --> 01:20:31,000
Every band followed the drummer.
615
01:20:31,333 --> 01:20:34,833
We don't follow Charlie,
Charlie follows Keith.
616
01:20:35,167 --> 01:20:39,208
So the drums are very slightly behind Keith.
617
01:20:39,292 --> 01:20:42,375
It's only fractions of seconds,
you know, miniscule.
618
01:20:42,458 --> 01:20:44,833
And I tend to play ahead.
619
01:20:47,667 --> 01:20:50,833
and it's dangerous because
it can all fall apart at any minute.
620
01:21:42,542 --> 01:21:47,167
I mean, it was an unstoppable
momentum going on,
621
01:21:48,333 --> 01:21:50,500
and, in a way, you're swept along with it.
622
01:21:50,583 --> 01:21:55,750
I mean, it's not as if you were particularly
in control of it or any of us were.
623
01:22:05,542 --> 01:22:08,542
or second-guessing.
624
01:22:08,958 --> 01:22:12,083
We were just going on instincts
and doing what we wanted.
625
01:22:12,167 --> 01:22:14,292
We were almost like a law unto ourselves.
626
01:22:25,417 --> 01:22:27,417
What is a Rolling Stone?
627
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,000
Someone that's not settled,
628
01:22:34,083 --> 01:22:37,208
like a pirate or a gypsy.
629
01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:44,125
Someone who likes to travel, voyage,
an adventurer.
630
01:22:47,833 --> 01:22:51,333
Another concert.
631
01:22:51,417 --> 01:22:55,250
My mum's out there. I don't want
no indecent gestures, you understand?
632
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,000
None of that wiggly stuff
out there in front of me mum now.
633
01:22:59,083 --> 01:23:00,958
Okay, Mrs Keyes, this is for you!
634
01:23:15,792 --> 01:23:17,500
Hi, there.
635
01:23:20,083 --> 01:23:22,833
– You know who he is?
– I do.
636
01:23:23,583 --> 01:23:26,833
He's one of those hippie long-haired…
One of those hippie radicals.
637
01:23:31,458 --> 01:23:34,042
Really all you wanted to do was
play music, you know.
638
01:23:34,125 --> 01:23:37,583
You're always trying to get it better,
trying to get the band tighter.
639
01:23:40,708 --> 01:23:43,500
knocking out songs for the next album
or the next single.
640
01:23:43,583 --> 01:23:47,167
It was a continual, day-by-day process.
641
01:24:05,208 --> 01:24:07,583
and if you're really working well together,
642
01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:11,208
you feed off each other's ideas
and build upon each other's ideas.
643
01:24:11,292 --> 01:24:15,167
So you've got someone that takes your thing
and takes it to another level.
644
01:24:23,542 --> 01:24:25,875
except it's all done through the ears.
645
01:24:26,042 --> 01:24:30,167
And on that, I would say Mick and I
are probably very much on the same groove.
646
01:24:42,750 --> 01:24:46,708
If I wanted the essence of Jagger
and Richards together,
647
01:24:46,792 --> 01:24:49,375
I suppose it would be Midnight Rambler.
648
01:24:49,917 --> 01:24:52,750
Anybody else could have written
any of our other songs,
649
01:24:52,833 --> 01:24:56,792
but I don't think anybody could have written
Midnight Rambler except Mick and me.
650
01:24:57,250 --> 01:25:01,333
And nobody else would have thought
of making an opera out of the blues.
651
01:30:12,708 --> 01:30:16,333
When you unzip your suit
and put your jeans back on or whatever,
652
01:30:16,417 --> 01:30:18,167
that's all finished with.
653
01:30:20,083 --> 01:30:23,792
I don't wanna be my extrovert character
all the time.
654
01:30:34,042 --> 01:30:36,542
you don't want to talk about
what they want to talk about.
655
01:30:36,625 --> 01:30:40,167
You kind of don't answer their question,
you kind of get rid of It.
656
01:30:44,292 --> 01:30:47,125
– Where are we going, by the way?
– I don't know.
657
01:30:50,667 --> 01:30:55,083
It's a kind of protection against intrusion.
658
01:30:57,667 --> 01:30:59,708
What are you trying to protect?
659
01:31:00,333 --> 01:31:04,125
You're trying to protect your inner self,
I think, is the answer.
660
01:31:06,250 --> 01:31:12,417
The Rolling Stones arrived in Sydney today
to begin their 1973 Australian tour.
661
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,917
You've been thrown into this,
I mean, you started and you're a blues player,
662
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,292
and then suddenly this fame thing comes in.
663
01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:27,042
And everybody has to handle that
in their own way.
664
01:31:30,833 --> 01:31:32,500
Charlie hates it.
665
01:31:32,958 --> 01:31:35,250
Charlie's perfect world would be to be
in the Rolling Stones,
666
01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:37,708
except nobody gives a shit who you are.
667
01:31:40,083 --> 01:31:44,083
Are you still enjoying playing in the group
as much as you used to do
668
01:31:44,167 --> 01:31:45,833
about seven or eight years back?
669
01:31:46,333 --> 01:31:48,750
Yeah, it's the same, really.
670
01:31:55,875 --> 01:31:59,542
For the next future…
671
01:31:59,625 --> 01:32:02,125
Carry on making records, I suppose.
672
01:32:03,417 --> 01:32:07,083
Try to do some things, I don't know.
673
01:32:09,167 --> 01:32:11,333
I think the Rolling Stones are great.
674
01:32:11,417 --> 01:32:14,375
But I kind of don't see me in it somehow.
675
01:32:16,208 --> 01:32:22,208
I never really lived or admired that world,
anyways, so I don't really believe it.
676
01:32:25,417 --> 01:32:29,500
But I'm very much a loner.
I always have been.
677
01:32:33,833 --> 01:32:35,375
That's the most difficult thing of all,
678
01:32:35,458 --> 01:32:37,833
I mean, that's what it takes
your whole life to find out.
679
01:32:38,333 --> 01:32:40,792
What you are. I mean, I don't know.
680
01:32:41,833 --> 01:32:43,417
But you're not this image
that people have of Mick.
681
01:32:45,208 --> 01:32:50,250
There's a lot of things you know that go out
to make up one person's personality,
682
01:32:50,333 --> 01:32:52,292
and so that you can be everything.
683
01:33:14,417 --> 01:33:15,917
How do you keep yourself grounded?
684
01:33:16,375 --> 01:33:18,167
I don't know. I didn't for a while.
685
01:33:20,083 --> 01:33:22,792
Heroin can…
686
01:33:23,708 --> 01:33:28,000
A sort of state
of suspended animation, really.
687
01:33:28,667 --> 01:33:31,250
Keith just got busted all the time.
688
01:33:31,333 --> 01:33:33,917
And he got away with it all the time.
That was the amazing thing.
689
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,083
He ended up with just
small fines and warnings,
690
01:33:37,167 --> 01:33:39,375
and it just went through his life like that.
691
01:33:40,792 --> 01:33:42,833
And you're always worried
because if Keith gets busted,
692
01:33:42,917 --> 01:33:45,125
we just thought
it was the end of the band, really.
693
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,708
He'd drive off the road regularly,
and he should never have been driving.
694
01:33:50,792 --> 01:33:52,667
I was always worried
that there was gonna be a call
695
01:33:52,750 --> 01:33:55,167
when Keith had driven off the road,
and that was the end of Keith.
696
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,167
Am I on the list?
697
01:34:08,500 --> 01:34:10,250
Great, okay. I'll let you know.
698
01:34:13,708 --> 01:34:17,042
Mick Taylor said to me then,
«I'm thinking of leaving».
699
01:34:19,333 --> 01:34:20,667
And then, of course, he deteriorated
700
01:34:20,750 --> 01:34:23,250
because he started to get into drugs
and all that sort of shit.
701
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,333
I always thought he left 'cause he got bored.
702
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:34,000
I thought he was fed up with playing with us.
703
01:34:40,333 --> 01:34:42,583
And he never told me, really, the reason.
704
01:34:44,208 --> 01:34:47,000
Why, in the world, would you
leave the Rolling Stones?
705
01:34:47,083 --> 01:34:49,542
I don't know, maybe I thought that
706
01:34:49,625 --> 01:34:55,583
I would be able to protect my family
from, not Keith's orbit, but drugs.
707
01:34:56,750 --> 01:35:00,167
Because I slowly became addicted to heroin.
708
01:35:00,708 --> 01:35:05,208
There comes a point where you have to
choose between one or the other or you die.
709
01:35:05,292 --> 01:35:09,000
And I, you know, I've survived.
710
01:35:12,292 --> 01:35:16,917
Mick Taylor leaving was a curveball
because that was a really good band,
711
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,000
and it had this balance
between Keith and Mick Taylor.
712
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,375
In a way, I was surprised,
but it's always a drag.
713
01:35:25,208 --> 01:35:30,500
I spent years putting this line-up together.
Then, just as I'm getting it right…
714
01:35:30,792 --> 01:35:36,000
There's another part of me that seems
that it was somehow inevitable.
715
01:35:39,833 --> 01:35:42,000
I was there at Robert Stigwood's party
716
01:35:42,083 --> 01:35:45,583
sitting between Mick Taylor and Mick Jagger
when Taylor leaned across me,
717
01:35:45,667 --> 01:35:47,417
and he said to Jagger,
«I'm leaving the band».
718
01:35:50,208 --> 01:35:51,833
I said, «I think he is, Mick».
719
01:35:56,333 --> 01:35:57,708
And Mick said, «Will you join?»
720
01:35:57,792 --> 01:36:00,875
And I said, «Yes, of course,
in a New York minute!»
721
01:36:30,208 --> 01:36:33,208
Ronnie was like a real breath
of fresh air, in a way.
722
01:36:33,500 --> 01:36:37,667
His personality was…
I mean, he's such a barrel of laughs.
723
01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:39,708
He fitted like a glove.
724
01:36:39,792 --> 01:36:44,625
Ronnie became the link between
the two strong egos and the two light egos.
725
01:36:44,958 --> 01:36:46,750
And it worked great.
726
01:36:47,083 --> 01:36:48,667
Tune-out room session!
727
01:36:51,167 --> 01:36:54,625
Fitting into their mould was easy for me.
728
01:36:54,833 --> 01:37:01,708
I found the compatibility with playing,
the whole lifestyle, the humour,
729
01:37:01,792 --> 01:37:05,458
the camaraderie, you know,
it was like, «I'm home».
730
01:37:11,667 --> 01:37:14,583
The feeling was
that you're having a good time.
731
01:37:14,667 --> 01:37:16,458
It was more, kind of, fun.
732
01:37:19,667 --> 01:37:22,917
and it wasn't supposed to be taken
too seriously,
733
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,167
and I think it was very much
the Ronnie thing.
734
01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:29,500
It's in the blood, you see, it all comes down
to those two hours on stage.
735
01:37:31,958 --> 01:37:33,292
They're the reward.
736
01:37:33,917 --> 01:37:37,500
He's a great guitar player
and also very sympathetic.
737
01:37:38,458 --> 01:37:40,667
Ronnie was somebody I'd party with as well.
738
01:37:40,750 --> 01:37:43,750
I mean, he was well-versed in every manner.
739
01:37:54,917 --> 01:38:00,083
Nearly one million applications had been
received for their 13 British concerts alone.
740
01:38:02,333 --> 01:38:04,667
Only 80,000 seats are available
741
01:38:04,750 --> 01:38:08,583
for what will be the Stones' first tour
of Britain in three years.
742
01:38:09,167 --> 01:38:12,458
Oh, man, the Rolling Stones are just it,
you know?
743
01:38:12,667 --> 01:38:14,375
What do you mean?
744
01:38:14,458 --> 01:38:16,750
They're the greatest rock and roll
band in the world!
745
01:38:17,125 --> 01:38:18,208
How long have you been here?
746
01:38:18,292 --> 01:38:20,750
Since Friday morning about 8:00 a.m.
747
01:38:22,208 --> 01:38:25,083
We take a walk to the liquor store,
buy a loaf of bread,
748
01:38:25,167 --> 01:38:29,958
some bologna and cheese,
and put it all together, and we eat it, man.
749
01:38:31,667 --> 01:38:34,333
We lived and breathed the songs, Keith and I.
750
01:38:34,458 --> 01:38:36,208
Morning, noon, and night,
751
01:38:36,292 --> 01:38:40,583
and when we slept,
which was very rare, very rare.
752
01:38:42,583 --> 01:38:48,083
And we lived and breathed other influences,
whether it be Mozart or Marley.
753
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,250
and the highs of the dope and the drink,
754
01:39:03,333 --> 01:39:06,500
my feet never really touched the
ground for many years.
755
01:39:32,458 --> 01:39:38,667
You felt almost pretty much immune
to exterior hassles, you know.
756
01:39:42,583 --> 01:39:44,708
It seems perilous now.
757
01:39:45,167 --> 01:39:51,417
At this time, it was like, «Come on,
throw it at us, see what you got».
758
01:39:55,958 --> 01:39:57,750
And you can get used
759
01:39:57,833 --> 01:40:03,083
to that feeling of invulnerableness,
even though it's not true.
760
01:40:15,583 --> 01:40:17,417
It was ridiculous.
761
01:40:18,667 --> 01:40:22,000
Fancy coming into Canada
with all that heroin. It's dotty.
762
01:40:32,417 --> 01:40:35,542
Police found one ounce of heroin,
and one-fifth of an ounce of cocaine…
763
01:40:35,625 --> 01:40:38,833
Lead guitarist Keith Richard
was charged with possession of heroin
764
01:40:38,917 --> 01:40:40,583
for the purpose of trafficking.
765
01:40:41,708 --> 01:40:45,833
If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence
of life for trafficking.
766
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:06,625
It got a bit close, I thought, letting the guy
into prison or being locked up.
767
01:41:07,375 --> 01:41:10,625
Perhaps Keith played that role
really too well, you know?
768
01:41:25,458 --> 01:41:32,250
It was the realisation in Canada that I was
actually jeopardising the band.
769
01:41:35,500 --> 01:41:37,583
That's why I stopped, that's it.
770
01:41:42,042 --> 01:41:46,125
It was an end of chapter there
and turn the page.
771
01:41:50,167 --> 01:41:51,833
and continue as a musician.
772
01:41:56,542 --> 01:41:58,000
was an example for others,
773
01:41:58,083 --> 01:42:03,167
so he was put on probation for a year and
ordered to continue psychiatric treatment.
774
01:42:03,250 --> 01:42:06,167
As part of his probation,
he would have to give a concert
775
01:42:06,250 --> 01:42:09,292
at the Canadian National Institute
for the Blind.
776
01:42:12,250 --> 01:42:16,667
Usually, it's the guy in the black hat
that gets killed at the end, you know.
777
01:42:17,333 --> 01:42:19,875
Not this time, brother, not this time.
778
01:42:28,208 --> 01:42:30,583
In a way, the Stones saved me
779
01:42:30,667 --> 01:42:34,333
because one thing that was more important
than smack was the band, you know.
780
01:43:00,375 --> 01:43:04,458
I mean, we did things quicker.
I think we were a bit more focused.
781
01:43:05,458 --> 01:43:08,292
There's more effort and more energy.
782
01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:15,292
It was a renewal.
783
01:43:17,833 --> 01:43:19,917
and we were brothers-in-arms.
784
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,583
After all, we always said, whether
we liked it or not, the band comes first.
785
01:43:28,958 --> 01:43:30,750
Their popularity's never been greater.
786
01:43:30,833 --> 01:43:34,583
And with a following like this,
the Stones don't even have to advertise.
787
01:43:37,583 --> 01:43:40,667
You love the Rolling Stones
more than you love God!
788
01:43:54,667 --> 01:43:56,375
The Rolling Stones have done it again.
789
01:43:56,458 --> 01:44:02,042
100,000 fans watched Mick Jagger prance
and dance as he has for nearly 20 years.
790
01:44:02,125 --> 01:44:04,875
They are starting a tour,
which will take them to 21 cities,
791
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,542
to be seen by 1.5 million adoring fans.
792
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:11,792
The anti-heroes of the 60s are back
on the road for their biggest tour ever.
793
01:44:22,542 --> 01:44:27,000
We'd gone from unacceptable
to totally acceptable.
794
01:44:27,458 --> 01:44:29,375
Everything had changed.
795
01:44:29,458 --> 01:44:33,333
We became a kind of institution,
and we hadn't even got to be 40 yet.
796
01:44:53,042 --> 01:44:54,167
I don't know how we do it.
797
01:45:17,500 --> 01:45:20,958
We had never been as high as this,
we'd never been as successful.
798
01:45:22,625 --> 01:45:24,000
We've done it.
799
01:45:51,708 --> 01:45:57,375
You just don't fuck with the Stones,
you know, this is a simple rule, it don't pay.
800
01:46:18,792 --> 01:46:22,958
You had this kind of, «Fuck the world,
you could do anything» attitude.
801
01:46:23,458 --> 01:46:25,833
For a moment, that was definitely there.
802
01:46:25,917 --> 01:46:28,750
I mean, you felt you're riding in the wave
and all that.
803
01:46:30,167 --> 01:46:32,167
But you can't be young forever.
72231
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