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have you ever met anybody 99 years old
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before first time first time hi Dr
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sharpenberg there he is
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aishan hi Sandy
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dog
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you still speak Chinese yeah a little
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bit he speaks Hindu or jongwind lots of
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Chinese oh really yeah yeah she speaks
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Mandarin but come back out here but it's
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kind of pretty out here oh it's pretty
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in here too it's gorgeous oh my gosh
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this is Chinese is amazing yeah so
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that's awesome that's Dr John
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scharfenberg who turns a hundred in a
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few months my friend Michelle sen
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Charmed him into letting us visit him in
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his home and I thought how wonderful she
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can interview him in his beautiful
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backyard and I can run the cameras and
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enjoy the show but Michelle being
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Michelle she dragged me into the
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interview and persuaded him to let us
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inspect his kitchen and home office John
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received his MD from Loma Linda
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University in 1948 and a masters in
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public health from Harvard in 1956. he
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is an Adventist and a vegetarian from
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birth not uncommon among Adventists here
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he is a half century you go let's take
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another cancer
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lymph gland cancer
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Dr Alan Cunningham went around the world
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check 16 countries and he noticed that
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as the meat intake went up particularly
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with beef the risk of lymph gland cancer
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increased so from the anatomy standpoint
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alone it looks like our creator made us
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to be a kind of an animal that does not
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eat other animals I read two of his
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books while editing this episode six
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extra years and problems with meat
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Michelle sen is a recent Stanford grad
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in science technology and society and
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she knows things about nutrition because
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she works at True North Health Center
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whose founder has gone viral on YouTube
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for its impressive results from
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medically supervised water fasting part
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one of this episode is on the simple
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Lifestyle Changes almost all of us can
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make and understand that have a profound
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impact on our health part two is me
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grilling John about the amazing
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breakthroughs in our understanding of
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nutrition over the last 70 years and
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part three is discovering John's
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extraordinary life in Public Health by
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rummaging through his office to get
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started I'm just going to ask you some
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yes or no questions just to introduce
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yourself so do you smoke I don't smoke
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Never Smoke do you drink any alcohol no
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never have do you need any assistance to
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walk yes so now sometimes not to walk
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but to go up steps or down steps I
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sometimes need a little bit okay this is
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a railing guys don't have any problems
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okay do you wear glasses no and that's
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because I had cataracts and had
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cataracts removed
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and they put in 2020 lenses so I have 20
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20 Vision through my glasses away
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and can you drive yes I drive do you
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drive at night yes and how old are you
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Dr John scharfenberg I am 99 but of
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course
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in China
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I'm in my hundredth year so they call
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that a hundred right because you're born
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in Shanghai I was born Shanghai but you
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they list the year you in as hundreds
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but
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the US people say you have to finish the
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hundred year before they call you
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hundred so you're already in there yeah
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wow
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in one sentence what should people eat
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a university of course in one cent
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eat that's the proper time that means no
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snacking eat at the proper time
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a variety not all of one meal you get
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too fat that way but over 10 day period
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so make sure you get all the nutrients
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you should have eat a variety of
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different foods so eat at the prophesy a
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variety of natural
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non-processed Foods in quantities for
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ideal weight that's all you need to know
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everything else explains why the
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sentence is true and do you yourself eat
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any animal products like dairy or I do
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I'm a lacto oh vegetarian I'm not a
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vegan and I don't like the term vegan
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in Great Britain when they use that term
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there was no religious connotation
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but when the man
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came here to the U.S who started in 1960
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he had religious connotation he had a
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monthly magazine on health for the
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vegans he called it ahimsa
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that means you don't use animals
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for any business
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to make money on you don't wear silk
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shirts because you're using this
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silkworm
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to make to get a business from them and
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you don't kill any insects and one of
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their religions ideas was eat supper
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before dark because after dark you're
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more likely to kill insects
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[Music]
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so I I don't say I'm a a vegan I don't
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like the term I say I'm a I I'd rather
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have the term total visitor total
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vegetarian I like that and some people
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now adays say that plants are trying to
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kill us what do you think about that but
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who's trying to kill plants some people
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say plants are trying to kill I've never
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heard that before okay no no no I
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haven't heard that some people are also
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saying that high LDL cholesterol is also
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fine for us it might even be good what
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do you think about that well
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you have to know about this whole story
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of of cholesterol cholesterol Wars
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cholesterol Wars yeah it's a big big
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story
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but here's something we've just learned
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since about 2010.
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a big advance in health
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you remember when the Robert Koch
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discovered
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the bacteria and pasture showed how it
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could make germs and you could get sick
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from it with his flash studies
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that was a real breakthrough in health
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and then penicillin
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about 1927-28 penicillin
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was another real breakthrough
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now in 2010 we've had another great
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breakthrough that nobody's heard about
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but it's exciting
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here's what it is
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the World Health Organization agrees to
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it American Heart Association
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uh the European Cardiology Society they
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all agree to this
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that if you avoid seven risk factors
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lifestyle factors
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you can reduce the risk of a heart
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attack or stroke cardiovascular disease
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80 percent
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you can reduce the risk of getting
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diabetes 88 percent
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now what are these seven risk factors
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tobacco
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inactivity no exercise
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and then they said too much meat and
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sugar
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they added two others
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they were high blood pressure and high
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blood cholesterol okay if you just do
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the first five you don't have to worry
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about the other two because those first
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five help to keep your blood pressure
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down and your cholesterol down okay
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so this is kind of exciting without any
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medicine
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we can lower the risk of heart attack
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and stroke 80 percent
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now that to me is really exciting you
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don't have to have all these pills now
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cardiovascular disease is killing
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more people
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than the next five leading causes of
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death combined
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and here we don't need any medicine for
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just lifestyle exercise no tobacco
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alcohol this kind of thing keep your
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weight down it so it's kind of exciting
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but doctors
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haven't really accepted this yet
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the authorities have leaders have
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scientific people have
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but the doctors have been for years
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giving satin pills
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to lower their cholesterol
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they had the idea that if we would lure
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everybody's cholesterol we'd have no
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more heart attacks
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it's not right it was an error yeah
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they've been giving people statins if
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their cholesterol level went up
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now here's the exciting thing
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most of the studies were done on men
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well they say women are just like men
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now I'm a doctor I know there's a
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difference
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they're treating the women the same way
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when they did three studies just on
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women alone
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they found out two of the three studies
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showed those that took the pills died
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sooner
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then another problem what about men
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the older men
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do better with higher blood cholesterol
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levels higher than what we think are
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so the people authorities in this field
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said that if you get to be 75 years of
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age you should no longer
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be put on statins okay because they do
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better with higher levels they live
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longer okay
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so that doesn't fit our our idea that
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LDL was all that bad there's something
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wrong with our Theory yeah so we were
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told in 2015 and the world Cardiology
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Journal
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we were told here's what we should tell
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our patients today
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tell your patients that we thought
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if we lowered everybody's cholesterol
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we'd no longer have any heart disease
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that was an error
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but tell them what will really benefit
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them is lifestyle lifestyle
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no tobacco no alcohol keeping your
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weight down exercise you know all that
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kind of thing uh but even now
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the authorities who say you should be on
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statins
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say you should try lifestyle before you
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put the patient on Statin and most
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people aren't doing that they just start
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off with the pills right
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so I'm not for the pill business
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I don't believe women should be put on
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statins number one and I'm sure that the
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men
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over 75 shouldn't be put on statins no
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matter what their cholesterol level is
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and I'm sure everybody will be should be
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started on a lifestyle program before
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they even try the medicines and why do
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you think there is so much controversy
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around nutrition and has it always been
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this way well here's the problem
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the doctors in their training have never
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had a good course in nutrition that's
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the problem right you go in to see a
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doctor you say what should I eat for
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breakfast tomorrow
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now he doesn't want to act stupid so he
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has to give you an answer
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and he doesn't really know so he thinks
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to himself
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what did my wife give me for breakfast
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this morning
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he doesn't know what to say
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scientifically which is too bad they
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need a good course
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and then another problem that we have
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medically
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we've been using cholesterol as an
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indicator who needs statins as if that
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would tell us
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you know and it doesn't it's a very poor
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representative of your heart status or
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your atherosclerosis status very poor
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another problem
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we're having lots of groups of doctors
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working together
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and the leader of the group gets the
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group together and says now look you
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have to see a new patient every 10
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minutes
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otherwise we aren't going to make any
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money on this
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10 minutes isn't long enough to teach
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anybody anything
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so so these are kind of problems we have
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medically see
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and then we had some scandals bad
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scandals
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I don't know if you've heard of the
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Cochrane database can you explain more
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about it is the name of a group of top
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specialists in different subjects all
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around the world
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and they're the gold standard when that
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group says this is what all these
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studies mean
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that's what we should listen to
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but recently
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they voted the man who was most against
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the pharmaceutical companies having any
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influence with this group they voted him
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off their group
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that's the Scandal when did that happen
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it just happened a few years ago no not
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very logo wow and so that's a scandal
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are they going to allow the
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pharmaceutical company have influence
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then here's another thing they did
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they said how low should your LDL
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cholesterol be
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now I was one of the first ones that
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said it should be 120. I had done
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thousands of them so I knew what it
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should be before they had any standards
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then when the standards came out the
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British Heart Association said it should
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be
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115 LDL cholesterol the U.S said 130.
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mine was 120. so I hit it pretty close
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yeah and
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and and that was kind of exciting where
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it should be but a committee got
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together about 15 people
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to decide how lower LDL cholesterol
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should really be
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eight of the 15 people
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got some financial payment from the
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company that makes the pill
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to lower the cholesterol so they voted
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it should be down to 100 LDL I see it's
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crazy it doesn't have to be down that
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low at all but they did it
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because they were friendly with the
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pharmaceutical companies and here they
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have so on the top guy out
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who was opposed to that and now all
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these people were going to be the
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immunization from the company by
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lecturing for them and stuff so it's not
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right money follow the money you were
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professor of nutrition for over 62 years
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at Loma Linda University so throughout
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that time has it always been this way
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that people keep disagreeing about
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nutrition yes they have a bunch of
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doctors you see don't have the training
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in it the average doctor so they don't
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know about it it's just a few people on
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the top know what it should be like the
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Heart Association was pretty good do you
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think the problem is getting worse today
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do you think that people are disagreeing
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more than ever about what is healthy to
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eat no
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but they've changed their views on
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something they've changed their views
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and that made quite a difference in
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knowledge what they knew
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worked and didn't work but I don't think
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we have to worry about everybody's
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cholesterol level I see have you heard
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of people talking about the carnivore
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diet
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sure me dying meat diet all meat and I I
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don't think that's right either for
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example
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the fat and the blood of the animal even
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the Bible says you shouldn't eat it the
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Jews were told not to eat it fat in the
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bud now we've found out
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that the fat in the blood
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has a heave
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iron in it
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and that increases the risk of colon
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cancer
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type 2 diabetes
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and increases the risk of heart attack
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so
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for example in the big nurses study they
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did they checked a certain number of
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them
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to see how much iron they're restoring
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in their sternum they took the needle
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sucking the sternum and checked to see
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those that had the most heme iron which
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was the meat eaters
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they had more
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iron there than the people who didn't
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eat the meat
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had more diabetes
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so there are doctors who prescribe meat
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if you're anemic they shouldn't
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it's the iron in the meat is
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more quickly observed absorbed so it's
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good from that standpoint but it's
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increasing colon cancer heart attack and
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diabetes type two wow yeah so what do
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you think is the best way to change
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people's minds about nutrition I think
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we need to get doctors educated
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nutrition we need a good
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of course in nutrition in medical school
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they don't have it and that's one of the
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greatest things for prevention
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you know we just don't have that in the
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medical school they should have a good
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course they don't how often do you
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yourself eat I eat twice a day only
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and that's different than most people
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now there's something new about that
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there's a dietitian down in Alabama do
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you remember her name
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you know I don't remember I could
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probably look it up and find out but
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anyway she started in this country the
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idea
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now we as Seventh-Day Adventists used to
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teach that that was a good thing to do
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because Ellen White told us who we
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believed was a prophet told us that
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years ago so I brought up my children on
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two meals a day
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and uh when did I started When the
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Children got old enough to see if I was
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eating supper or not
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when they knew that I was on two meals a
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day too so I've been on that for years
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yeah and what time do you eat your two
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meals well I eat breakfast about 6 30 in
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the morning I wake up about four I eat
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breakfast about 6 30 and then lunch come
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12 31 mm-hmm so I can eat with other
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people yeah yeah at that time
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and then I don't eat anymore and when
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you get water when do you go to bed
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early like eight to nine eight to nine
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so so between your your lunch and you go
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to bed that's quite a few hours do you
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get hungry
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no no you do when you change over to
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start with for two or three weeks
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but we say when you get hungry drink a
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glass of water hi
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okay so you don't no snacks no snacks so
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I can't wait for wait to go check out
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your refrigerator so you can see more
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see movie yeah you said you like to eat
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a lot of fruit more than vegetables
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right you oh okay I like range
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not rice and you said that before you
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were going out to the black bear bite
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the Black Bear Diner and buying food but
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now you get help making your meals yes
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this lady's sister she didn't like to
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see me going out eating all the time so
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she brings a lunch every day
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what are your favorite foods mangoes
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oh yummy yeah Manila mango
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two months of the year in Manila you
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couldn't get mangoes the temperature it
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wasn't right but down in Cebu
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the timber is just right they have
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mangoes every month of the year wow down
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in where again Cebu what is that island
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of Cebu
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okay do you have any favorite vegetables
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trying to think what I like most I kind
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of like snow peas
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um but more fruits Tomatoes Tomatoes
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yeah I like tomatoes I would argue with
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myself whether I liked rice better or
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potatoes it's a contest a long time I
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thought it was rice but then I changed I
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think it's potatoes really okay but
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there's some problems with potatoes
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what's the problem they have a high
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glycemic index even compare so white
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rice people say it has pretty high
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glycemic index potato is even higher
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potatoes like ice cream they like ice
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cream oh wow and so there I have a
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friend who's a dietitian already and she
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no longer eats potatoes at all because
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of that
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all right guys
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but it depends on what else you eat with
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a meal right see and how you prepare it
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so every time they do a study on it it
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comes out a different number so I I had
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don't go for that idea scientifically
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yet I see so when you're putting
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together your plate to eat are you
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are you thinking in terms of the kind of
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nutrients you're adding or are you just
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eating Foods you're familiar with you
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know when I was bringing up my children
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I one week out of the year every year
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practically would write down everything
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we ate
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how much
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and then we take out this agriculture
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handbook for the nutrient content and
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calculate what we we're eating
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and so my kids learn nutrition this way
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the thing I was usually lowest in was
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vitamin A
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that means the greens ah see I never ate
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Greens in the orient
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fresh greens right because the Chinese
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always use human manure and that's the
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way you got amoeba
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you could die from that so I didn't eat
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that and I came to this country
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and I found out that people who ate a
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salad every day
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has a great drop in there
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the chance of dying um
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if they have a a food that had vitamin A
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and vitamin C in it both they could
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reduce their death rate about three
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quarters wow and so I began to eat more
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salads greens but the foods I like the
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best
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I I was supposed I like lentils pretty
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well you know I like
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Chinese cooking while cooking I can eat
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vegetables that way very nicely I I like
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it and now when you get your blood work
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done are there any deficiencies
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abnormalities no except for my age
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B12
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and vitamin D
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vitamin D
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to be useful
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is in young people because it has to hit
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the cholesterol in the skin
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and change the changes it it has to go
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to the liver change it again goes to the
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kidneys changes it again
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and it makes a hormone which we call
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Vitamin D okay and all these things and
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old people are working to have three
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so old people aren't getting it they
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have to take a supplement I see so you
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supplement vitamin d and vitamin B12 yes
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every day that's yeah that's all gotcha
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why do you think that the Chinese and
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seven the Adventists live so long in
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America I think it's a matter
564
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:34,980
primarily a vegetarianism we checked in
565
00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:35,700
California the vegetarian Adventist
566
00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:37,980
group
567
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:39,058
with the general population how long
568
00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:41,519
they live
569
00:24:39,058 --> 00:24:44,038
for example for the men in the general
570
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:46,740
population 19 and a half percent of them
571
00:24:44,038 --> 00:24:48,480
live to be 85 or older but for
572
00:24:46,740 --> 00:24:50,720
Seventh-day Adventist men
573
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:54,960
40 vegetarian men
574
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,940
48.6 that's a big difference now the
575
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,940
women live longer than the men
576
00:24:56,940 --> 00:25:04,798
so in the general population
577
00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:07,019
uh 39.3 percent of the women live to be
578
00:25:04,798 --> 00:25:09,259
85 or older
579
00:25:07,019 --> 00:25:11,099
but for the Adventist women
580
00:25:09,259 --> 00:25:14,579
60.1 percent
581
00:25:11,099 --> 00:25:17,038
um quite a difference it is yeah quite a
582
00:25:14,579 --> 00:25:19,980
difference yeah and I
583
00:25:17,038 --> 00:25:22,379
it's vegetarian what makes the
584
00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:24,900
difference of course Adventists are an
585
00:25:22,380 --> 00:25:26,580
unusual group to study because they
586
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:29,640
don't smoke or drink alcohol
587
00:25:26,579 --> 00:25:31,798
whereas all other studies they have to
588
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,778
compare this group to that group with
589
00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:36,259
the same number of smokers same amount
590
00:25:33,778 --> 00:25:38,940
of smoking same amount of alcohol
591
00:25:36,259 --> 00:25:40,980
confounding factors yeah messes up their
592
00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:44,159
study administs don't have those
593
00:25:40,980 --> 00:25:46,919
compound effective so that's pretty good
594
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:50,940
now in the Adventist Health study for
595
00:25:46,919 --> 00:25:53,159
the men they had only 56 of the death
596
00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:54,259
rate of the people of the general
597
00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:58,679
population
598
00:25:54,259 --> 00:26:00,538
44 lower vegetarian no that's for the
599
00:25:58,679 --> 00:26:04,019
ones who are not vegetarians everybody
600
00:26:00,538 --> 00:26:07,980
all Advent but if you take just the
601
00:26:04,019 --> 00:26:09,599
vegetarian ones they have only 39 of the
602
00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:13,500
expected death rate of the general
603
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:15,899
population if you take the total
604
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:19,859
vegetarians who don't use milk or eggs
605
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:22,080
they had only 16 of the death rate of
606
00:26:19,859 --> 00:26:25,199
the general population so
607
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:27,000
smoking and tobacco knocks it down
608
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,798
44 percent
609
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,179
if you don't eat meat knocks it down
610
00:26:28,798 --> 00:26:32,460
further
611
00:26:30,179 --> 00:26:34,860
if you don't use milk eggs knocks it
612
00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:36,840
down first wow what are the major
613
00:26:34,859 --> 00:26:38,339
advances in health that you've seen the
614
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:40,319
last hundred years
615
00:26:38,339 --> 00:26:44,158
you know the biggest thing that's
616
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:45,899
happened in this country is that we have
617
00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:48,360
purified our water
618
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:50,278
so you turn on any faucet you could
619
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,038
probably drink it
620
00:26:50,278 --> 00:26:54,778
I remember I went with some friends to
621
00:26:53,038 --> 00:26:57,538
Mexico City
622
00:26:54,778 --> 00:26:59,579
for a meeting on nutrition Big World
623
00:26:57,538 --> 00:27:02,519
meeting on nutrition
624
00:26:59,579 --> 00:27:04,918
two out of three of the speakers could
625
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:06,778
not give their lecture because they had
626
00:27:04,919 --> 00:27:09,299
diarrhea
627
00:27:06,778 --> 00:27:12,298
because because of the food they were
628
00:27:09,298 --> 00:27:13,918
eating yikes and when we came home the
629
00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:15,119
Food and Drug Administration sent us
630
00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:18,299
letters
631
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:22,319
where did we eat what did we eat
632
00:27:18,298 --> 00:27:24,418
well what did I eat there mangoes things
633
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:27,178
like a peel yeah but then there's
634
00:27:24,419 --> 00:27:29,820
plantains you know and rice and things
635
00:27:27,179 --> 00:27:33,840
like that they're cooked so we never had
636
00:27:29,819 --> 00:27:37,019
any problem but I was surprised so many
637
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:37,678
people got sick wow so it sounds like
638
00:27:37,019 --> 00:27:41,460
you
639
00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:44,759
carbs like a lot of mangoes lots of red
640
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:46,679
so I think water Improvement was the
641
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:48,000
biggest thing we did compared to any
642
00:27:46,679 --> 00:27:50,960
other country
643
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:54,599
and then another thing I think next is
644
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,340
immunizations so we got rid of yellow
645
00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:57,719
fever
646
00:27:56,339 --> 00:27:59,819
polio
647
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,798
smallpox
648
00:27:59,819 --> 00:28:03,839
and even the measles and the German
649
00:28:01,798 --> 00:28:06,000
Measles and all these things the number
650
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:09,058
of cases diphtheria will be gone number
651
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,000
of cases went way down
652
00:28:09,058 --> 00:28:14,639
I wish people stop dying I've got all
653
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,400
kinds of data on that so I think that
654
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,380
was a big deal what about in your area
655
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,179
of nutrition what have been the changes
656
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:23,778
or major advancements the past hundred
657
00:28:21,179 --> 00:28:28,380
years well I used to say before
658
00:28:23,778 --> 00:28:30,900
1950 was the Dark Ages but we did have
659
00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:33,778
some things that we did well
660
00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:35,778
Paul Agra have you heard of pellagra yep
661
00:28:33,778 --> 00:28:37,319
the 3DS
662
00:28:35,778 --> 00:28:38,839
diarrhea
663
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:40,558
dementia
664
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:44,699
dermatitis
665
00:28:40,558 --> 00:28:48,240
death during the 1940s early 40s during
666
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:51,840
World War II time we had as many as 100
667
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,759
to 300 000 people sick at one time
668
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:55,319
and since dementia is one of the
669
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:58,140
problems a lot of them were in jail
670
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:59,759
because they did crazy things so they
671
00:28:58,140 --> 00:29:02,400
got put in jail
672
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:04,919
and what made it bad was the Chicago
673
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:09,240
Board of Health said it's an infectious
674
00:29:04,919 --> 00:29:10,980
disease it wasn't nutrition disease they
675
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,038
proved it was not infectious
676
00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:17,278
and so we got rid of pellagra in the 40s
677
00:29:14,038 --> 00:29:18,960
we had degerminated the corn you know we
678
00:29:17,278 --> 00:29:21,298
did things like this so they began to
679
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,940
add niacin to the food and then there
680
00:29:21,298 --> 00:29:28,139
was no problem so that's one big thing
681
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:30,720
we did before in 1950. but before 1950
682
00:29:28,140 --> 00:29:32,340
everybody thought you're crazy if you're
683
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,440
a vegetarian
684
00:29:32,339 --> 00:29:36,720
you couldn't bring up a child on a
685
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,860
vegetarian diet right see
686
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:43,380
but from 1950 on it was really excellent
687
00:29:40,859 --> 00:29:46,439
things that happened there was Frank
688
00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:48,120
budreau he was a public health man
689
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,120
and he said
690
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:52,739
if we
691
00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:54,058
you use the information we had on
692
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:57,720
nutrition
693
00:29:54,058 --> 00:30:00,839
it would be as big a advance
694
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,339
as we pasture finding the germ Theory
695
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:05,099
wow
696
00:30:02,339 --> 00:30:07,740
and I think that's right the U.S
697
00:30:05,099 --> 00:30:09,178
government had advisors of Physicians
698
00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:11,159
specialists
699
00:30:09,179 --> 00:30:13,080
who've told them that the best that
700
00:30:11,159 --> 00:30:15,059
people could have is a vegetarian diet
701
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:17,099
it's the optimum diet
702
00:30:15,058 --> 00:30:19,918
so I think we should get more people on
703
00:30:17,099 --> 00:30:22,079
that as far as we know only six to
704
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:23,820
fifteen percent of Americans are
705
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:26,639
vegetarian
706
00:30:23,819 --> 00:30:30,178
but now that we know with the proper
707
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,620
lifestyle you can decrease heart attacks
708
00:30:30,179 --> 00:30:34,200
and strokes
709
00:30:31,619 --> 00:30:36,298
80 percent
710
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,500
and that's one of the main things be a
711
00:30:36,298 --> 00:30:39,500
vegetarian
712
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:42,419
the problem was
713
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:44,220
people like me right they rebelled
714
00:30:42,419 --> 00:30:47,480
against this so they changed it and said
715
00:30:44,220 --> 00:30:47,480
eat more fruits and vegetables
716
00:30:47,579 --> 00:30:52,439
but they really meant Less meat so they
717
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,840
added another recommendation
718
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,899
eat no more than five to six percent of
719
00:30:54,839 --> 00:31:01,199
the calories as saturated fat
720
00:30:57,898 --> 00:31:05,038
that means animal fat dairy fat no fat
721
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:08,880
butter fat cheese that meant it off
722
00:31:05,038 --> 00:31:11,460
lard bacon beef
723
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,159
that's what we had to get rid of
724
00:31:11,460 --> 00:31:16,500
so we don't use the bad terms vegetarian
725
00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:19,260
or the bad term meat
726
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:21,359
we just say no more than five to six
727
00:31:19,259 --> 00:31:25,879
percent of the calories saturated fat
728
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:25,879
calculated that means vegetarian time
729
00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:30,380
advancements you think
730
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,740
yes I think there are some that we
731
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:38,339
should do
732
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:40,980
the next Advance has to be in getting
733
00:31:38,339 --> 00:31:42,538
people to do what even they know they
734
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:45,058
should do
735
00:31:42,538 --> 00:31:46,259
we don't know how to do that
736
00:31:45,058 --> 00:31:47,819
you know
737
00:31:46,259 --> 00:31:50,398
and
738
00:31:47,819 --> 00:31:53,099
seeing a patient's new one every 10
739
00:31:50,398 --> 00:31:55,859
minutes is not long enough to even try
740
00:31:53,099 --> 00:31:57,959
but here uh lady is overweight comes in
741
00:31:55,859 --> 00:31:59,699
to see the doctor
742
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,860
he writes out a prescription you will
743
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:04,140
now exercise one hour every day
744
00:32:01,859 --> 00:32:05,939
she comes back one month later a little
745
00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:09,120
bit heavier
746
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:12,080
did you follow the prescription did you
747
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:12,079
exercise no
748
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:16,500
and that he has 100 patients go through
749
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,659
his office like that he stops even
750
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:21,119
trying to educate them yeah that's our
751
00:32:18,659 --> 00:32:23,520
problem yeah but the immunization has
752
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:25,639
done good job you know even without
753
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:28,918
immunization I was in charge of
754
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,860
tuberculosis control I did so well in
755
00:32:28,919 --> 00:32:35,278
California that they made me a
756
00:32:31,859 --> 00:32:39,479
consultant to CDC and it was kind of
757
00:32:35,278 --> 00:32:41,278
kind of exciting uh because we just
758
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,558
about have it eliminated we still have
759
00:32:41,278 --> 00:32:47,298
it another 10 years we'll probably have
760
00:32:43,558 --> 00:32:50,178
TB eliminated that's phenomenal it is
761
00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:52,440
wow and I have a hand in that myself
762
00:32:50,179 --> 00:32:54,059
amazing thank you and thank you for your
763
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,740
service too because you serve for two
764
00:32:54,058 --> 00:32:58,200
years in the Army right
765
00:32:55,740 --> 00:33:01,140
four years four years two years as a
766
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,840
medical student oh okay they put me
767
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:06,059
through medicine yeah wow thank you for
768
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:07,439
all you've done what do you think has
769
00:33:06,058 --> 00:33:09,000
gotten worse in the field of nutrition
770
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,000
the past hundred years
771
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:15,419
you see the cardiac rate has gone down
772
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:18,778
because of smoking going down
773
00:33:15,419 --> 00:33:20,159
now only 11 percent of Americans adults
774
00:33:18,778 --> 00:33:22,079
they're smoking
775
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:23,600
in California where they're a little
776
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:26,339
more smart people
777
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:29,000
it's only nine percent
778
00:33:26,339 --> 00:33:33,119
so we've done well here in this country
779
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,980
uh and the state we've done well but
780
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:36,778
there are things that are keeping the
781
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:39,778
figures up
782
00:33:36,778 --> 00:33:43,740
one is diabetes
783
00:33:39,778 --> 00:33:45,599
two is hypertension
784
00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:46,940
three is overweight particularly in
785
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:50,599
children
786
00:33:46,940 --> 00:33:50,600
now diabetes
787
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,759
it is jumped
788
00:33:53,278 --> 00:33:57,659
a lot in just a couple years about 75
789
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:01,140
percent
790
00:33:57,659 --> 00:34:04,919
the rate jumped High well why it jumped
791
00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:07,740
by 75 yeah in what time frame just a few
792
00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:10,440
years it just suddenly went up and so
793
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:12,719
why why did that happen the people who
794
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,300
who are put on
795
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,039
statins medicines to lower their
796
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,480
cholesterol
797
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:20,579
uh
798
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,878
women particularly
799
00:34:20,579 --> 00:34:26,699
have 71 percent higher chance of getting
800
00:34:23,878 --> 00:34:28,199
diabetes if they're on statins so that's
801
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:30,779
one problem
802
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,759
we've been getting too fat particularly
803
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:35,879
children that's another cause of
804
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:38,520
diabetes and our blood pressure we have
805
00:34:35,878 --> 00:34:40,559
people with hypertension and you usually
806
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:43,739
have hypertension maybe seven years
807
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:46,139
before you're diagnosed with diabetes
808
00:34:43,739 --> 00:34:48,118
so all these things work together and
809
00:34:46,139 --> 00:34:50,820
all of them have to do with a vegetarian
810
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:54,000
diet and what about exercise how
811
00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:57,300
important is that to longevity exercise
812
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,739
is extremely important exercise helps to
813
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:02,400
keep your weight down
814
00:34:58,739 --> 00:35:03,899
exercise helps you or hypertension it's
815
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,720
the best preventive for hypertension
816
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:11,460
there is exercise helps to keep you from
817
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:13,980
diabetes in other words if you exercise
818
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:15,780
and you keep your weight down and you're
819
00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:18,539
on a vegetarian diet you won't get
820
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:21,680
diabetes so this is one of our problems
821
00:35:18,539 --> 00:35:21,679
it's the lifestyle
822
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:26,760
and see the doctors have been telling
823
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:28,559
people safely satin pills they're going
824
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,480
by the cholesterol level
825
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,338
with the idea that if you lower your
826
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,940
cholesterol will not have heart attacks
827
00:35:32,338 --> 00:35:38,099
anymore it's not true it's not true and
828
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:40,800
we made a mistake we should tell them
829
00:35:38,099 --> 00:35:44,220
that lifestyle is important
830
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,260
but the problem is we haven't persuaded
831
00:35:44,219 --> 00:35:48,739
people to live like they even though
832
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:50,880
they should live yes
833
00:35:48,739 --> 00:35:52,259
that's why I'm starting to become a
834
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,599
therapist I want to figure out how do we
835
00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:56,160
people know what to do but a lot of them
836
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:58,559
know what to do but they don't do it
837
00:35:56,159 --> 00:36:01,500
it's hard yeah it's hard
838
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:03,900
for exercise how much do you think it
839
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:06,300
can compensate for being overweight
840
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,460
a woman who's fat I had a lady helping
841
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:11,220
me with my
842
00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:13,440
PowerPoint lectures was she was
843
00:36:11,219 --> 00:36:14,819
did it for a living for advertising for
844
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,240
purposes
845
00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:20,700
and she was really big
846
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,199
and I said to her I said you know
847
00:36:20,699 --> 00:36:23,578
I've got to talk to you about your
848
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:26,578
weight
849
00:36:23,579 --> 00:36:28,560
she said I said you want's a good news
850
00:36:26,579 --> 00:36:31,019
first or the bad news she said give me
851
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:33,779
the bad news first I say you should know
852
00:36:31,019 --> 00:36:36,300
for every disease we know overweight is
853
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:40,140
going to increase your risk of dying
854
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:44,099
but the good news if you are obese
855
00:36:40,139 --> 00:36:47,098
and she was real big if you are obese
856
00:36:44,099 --> 00:36:49,019
but you exercise every day you will live
857
00:36:47,099 --> 00:36:52,260
longer than the person whose normal
858
00:36:49,019 --> 00:36:54,619
weight who doesn't exercise
859
00:36:52,260 --> 00:36:57,780
oh she's good good because I exercise
860
00:36:54,619 --> 00:36:59,460
well what exercise do you do I go
861
00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:02,519
horseback riding
862
00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:04,800
oh so you're just like sitting on it I
863
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,800
know the horse exercises but I'm not so
864
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:11,940
sure how much the person is yeah anyway
865
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:15,900
a man who smokes has hypertension has
866
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:17,039
high blood cholesterol but he exercised
867
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,960
every day
868
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:21,179
will live longer than the man who
869
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,820
doesn't have any of those wings who
870
00:37:21,179 --> 00:37:27,059
doesn't exercise and what counts as
871
00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:29,820
enough exercise yeah I hate to tell you
872
00:37:27,059 --> 00:37:33,059
this but too much exercise
873
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:35,400
increases your death rate too
874
00:37:33,059 --> 00:37:37,440
because hardly anybody does that
875
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,838
but they have these people running
876
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,220
marathons to think that's not right it's
877
00:37:39,838 --> 00:37:43,139
too much
878
00:37:41,219 --> 00:37:44,879
so they're trying to find out how much
879
00:37:43,139 --> 00:37:47,159
is okay
880
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,880
we're beginning to get an idea of how
881
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:53,899
much it's not very far between a good
882
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,280
amount and bad amount
883
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:58,619
but I hate to help you with this because
884
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,200
most people aren't doing anything
885
00:37:58,619 --> 00:38:04,200
a way of exercise what are you doing now
886
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:06,439
for exercise you know I should add one
887
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:08,879
more thing to the exercise bed
888
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,619
they've done studies with Alzheimer's
889
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:15,660
patients and
890
00:38:10,619 --> 00:38:17,280
and probably exercise in mid-ease is the
891
00:38:15,659 --> 00:38:21,059
most important time
892
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:24,240
not kids not old people like me but
893
00:38:21,059 --> 00:38:28,320
exercise middays 40 to 70 years of age
894
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:32,039
you exercise in that age group might
895
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:34,440
reduce your risk of of Alzheimer's
896
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:38,579
so I think that's the important time
897
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,800
when I was 55 51 I moved out for my job
898
00:38:38,579 --> 00:38:43,260
at Loma Linda started exercising by
899
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:47,460
living out in the country growing food
900
00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:50,880
cutting down the trees and so on and
901
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:53,460
I outlived my brothers now 14 and
902
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,740
17 years now
903
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:58,440
and right now what do you do for
904
00:38:55,739 --> 00:39:01,259
exercise walking is about the only thing
905
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,539
walking and sometimes do you work in the
906
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:06,000
garden I haven't been doing much here
907
00:39:03,539 --> 00:39:08,159
see most of the garden was all in place
908
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:12,239
this was all in place oh it's gorgeous
909
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:14,098
mostly Farm flowers is not so yeah does
910
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,439
the Walking how much do you walk every
911
00:39:14,099 --> 00:39:20,039
day I have been walking enough
912
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:23,039
but you should walk I think
913
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:24,358
at least two miles a day and why they
914
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:26,759
did studies
915
00:39:24,358 --> 00:39:29,578
those who walk two or more miles a day
916
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,900
compared to the walk those who walk one
917
00:39:29,579 --> 00:39:33,359
or less
918
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:36,180
and those who walk two miles or more a
919
00:39:33,358 --> 00:39:37,980
day compared to the other had only 50
920
00:39:36,179 --> 00:39:39,838
percent of the death rate
921
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:42,838
because their chances are dying in half
922
00:39:39,838 --> 00:39:44,820
yes I think maybe you and the sisters
923
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:47,880
could do a walk-in a little more yeah I
924
00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:49,980
need to do some more walking yeah is it
925
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:53,160
just hard to find the energy to or the
926
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:53,940
time well he knew there's a problem with
927
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:56,598
me
928
00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:59,579
I think it's the association
929
00:39:56,599 --> 00:40:01,740
I need to be walking with somebody doing
930
00:39:59,579 --> 00:40:03,539
something with somebody else oh talking
931
00:40:01,739 --> 00:40:06,078
or something maybe you should get you a
932
00:40:03,539 --> 00:40:09,059
dog or something yeah
933
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:11,099
well I want to know what do you think
934
00:40:09,059 --> 00:40:13,380
looking back on your life was the
935
00:40:11,099 --> 00:40:15,660
hardest time in your life I don't know
936
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:19,858
that I had any hard time
937
00:40:15,659 --> 00:40:21,179
yeah so I didn't no I live kind of a
938
00:40:19,858 --> 00:40:23,338
protective life
939
00:40:21,179 --> 00:40:24,179
now one thing that we should be working
940
00:40:23,338 --> 00:40:26,039
on
941
00:40:24,179 --> 00:40:30,000
is the aces
942
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:33,119
the adverse children's experiences
943
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,119
if a husband is beating up his wife and
944
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:37,858
the kids see that that's an ace
945
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,780
if
946
00:40:37,858 --> 00:40:43,078
the kid is not getting enough to eat as
947
00:40:39,780 --> 00:40:45,300
an ace if the most important thing is
948
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:47,720
the mothers aren't spending enough time
949
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:50,760
to help the kids emotionally
950
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:53,279
paying attention to them they're just
951
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,900
ignoring that's an ace
952
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,380
if the
953
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:59,820
if somebody is mentally off in the house
954
00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:01,920
that says
955
00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:04,260
if somebody's going to jail in the
956
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,780
family that's nice there's about 10 of
957
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:08,160
those and if you have about six of those
958
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:09,839
you may
959
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:13,440
cut your life
960
00:41:09,838 --> 00:41:14,599
short by 20 years so I I think we need
961
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,338
to
962
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:20,960
do something to try to help our kids
963
00:41:17,338 --> 00:41:22,980
have the right mentors to help them
964
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,619
religiously or take them out in the
965
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:28,260
country for exercise things like that so
966
00:41:25,619 --> 00:41:32,220
you said that there have been no very
967
00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:34,380
difficult times in your life and I think
968
00:41:32,219 --> 00:41:35,879
um you know a lot of people they find it
969
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:37,858
hard to look back at life and think that
970
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,900
it was also positive so how do you how
971
00:41:37,858 --> 00:41:41,940
do you keep on that characteristic smile
972
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:44,940
and positivity well let me tell you one
973
00:41:41,940 --> 00:41:48,179
thing that happened to me me and my wife
974
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:50,099
uh we had moved from Longwood up in the
975
00:41:48,179 --> 00:41:52,559
country
976
00:41:50,099 --> 00:41:55,920
and I was waiting for my tax returns
977
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:58,559
people to get it finished and I had to
978
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,599
wait an hour or so so I went to see a
979
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:02,940
person in the house they weren't there
980
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,780
so I drove in the backyard and I saw a
981
00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:08,338
big tall man walk by inside the house so
982
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:10,140
I knocked on the door
983
00:42:08,338 --> 00:42:14,460
he came to the door
984
00:42:10,139 --> 00:42:17,159
and the family was taking little windows
985
00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:18,900
take them out make big windows
986
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,578
and
987
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:22,079
the man said you know there was a
988
00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:24,119
burglar in here and broke the window
989
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:26,579
back bedroom
990
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:28,619
oh I said I'd like to see it
991
00:42:26,579 --> 00:42:31,140
because I was knew the people I said
992
00:42:28,619 --> 00:42:33,720
we're the people oh they're at work so I
993
00:42:31,139 --> 00:42:34,980
went back to look at that broken window
994
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,639
in the bedroom
995
00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:40,500
then my wife dropped to the floor I
996
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:42,779
what happened
997
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:45,960
I was sipping over to see what happened
998
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:48,540
then I felt the hammer he had on my head
999
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,940
he hit her with a hammer
1000
00:42:48,539 --> 00:42:54,599
Hammer he was wanting to kill us
1001
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:56,059
to take our Cadillac we just bought a
1002
00:42:54,599 --> 00:43:00,900
secondhand Cadillac
1003
00:42:56,059 --> 00:43:04,619
kind of like my wife before and since I
1004
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:07,318
was wooing it was a glancing blow he
1005
00:43:04,619 --> 00:43:08,940
demanded my keys I saw him at him hoping
1006
00:43:07,318 --> 00:43:11,460
he'd have to turn around to get them but
1007
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,559
he caught him I was going to tackle him
1008
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:14,720
if he turned around but he ran out and
1009
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:17,400
got our car
1010
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,399
and drove off
1011
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,680
now that new car had a number on it so
1012
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:26,338
you could tell where it was
1013
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:29,338
and I ran out on the street and I didn't
1014
00:43:26,338 --> 00:43:31,380
realize how I looked my face was all
1015
00:43:29,338 --> 00:43:33,719
bloody but I didn't know it my hands
1016
00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:36,059
were all bloody from this cut on the
1017
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:39,358
head and
1018
00:43:36,059 --> 00:43:42,179
I finally a car stopped I said can you
1019
00:43:39,358 --> 00:43:44,460
get the fleece that man just stole my
1020
00:43:42,179 --> 00:43:47,098
car going around the corner now and he
1021
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:49,980
may have killed my wife in the house
1022
00:43:47,099 --> 00:43:52,740
and so he called the police with a five
1023
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:55,139
minutes of us right close so we went in
1024
00:43:52,739 --> 00:43:57,659
the house and picked my wife up from the
1025
00:43:55,139 --> 00:43:59,759
floor put on a chair she said what
1026
00:43:57,659 --> 00:44:04,139
happens if we have an earthquake oh
1027
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:06,660
that's California person yeah California
1028
00:44:04,139 --> 00:44:10,199
she didn't know what had happened see
1029
00:44:06,659 --> 00:44:12,838
anyway they had about 20 cars lined up
1030
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:15,899
that they were going up the hill of the
1031
00:44:12,838 --> 00:44:18,179
mountains and he wouldn't stop he wasn't
1032
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:20,460
going fast but he wouldn't stop and they
1033
00:44:18,179 --> 00:44:21,659
had to Ram him that's the front ruined
1034
00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:23,338
my car
1035
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:25,039
it was loaded with everything our own
1036
00:44:23,338 --> 00:44:28,858
Factory
1037
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:29,880
and we got the car back and I got all my
1038
00:44:28,858 --> 00:44:33,480
stuff back
1039
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:37,079
but having to give up the car because
1040
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,900
it was total to it so how do you stay so
1041
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:42,180
optimistic just by all these things
1042
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:43,740
that's you asked what happened bad in my
1043
00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:48,598
life I would say that was the worst
1044
00:44:43,739 --> 00:44:50,279
thing right yeah but I was in Wars too I
1045
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:52,859
was over in Korea when the Creole War
1046
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,700
started you were in Korea yeah when it
1047
00:44:52,858 --> 00:44:55,739
wow
1048
00:44:53,699 --> 00:45:00,539
I
1049
00:44:55,739 --> 00:45:03,358
I had my house burned two times I all
1050
00:45:00,539 --> 00:45:06,119
your belongings burned to the ground not
1051
00:45:03,358 --> 00:45:09,179
quite but I was had a home right in
1052
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:12,000
front of sigmundry's house the Korean
1053
00:45:09,179 --> 00:45:14,460
president I I was out of the house at
1054
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,400
the time evening and somebody got the
1055
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:18,900
kids ran out with one of our helpers so
1056
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,980
that was a problem I went to the other
1057
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:21,900
house
1058
00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:24,780
and I said to my wife this is the first
1059
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:28,500
time I felt warm in Korea
1060
00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:32,060
I went into the bathroom I saw flames in
1061
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:35,039
the wall through an electric socket
1062
00:45:32,059 --> 00:45:38,039
I called the Marine who was in the
1063
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:40,380
duplex he came with a big accident he
1064
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:42,300
had it down before the fur the apartment
1065
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:47,640
came
1066
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:49,740
out so I've had some bad experiences but
1067
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,659
I wouldn't say I've had any long
1068
00:45:49,739 --> 00:45:54,659
experiences that were
1069
00:45:51,659 --> 00:45:56,399
bad for me right so I mean even now you
1070
00:45:54,659 --> 00:45:58,799
smile and you laugh all the time what
1071
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,380
what is it what keeps you so positive
1072
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,420
you know I think
1073
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:07,680
what's positive
1074
00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:10,200
is is a I wake up every morning
1075
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:12,419
and I say you know what's going to
1076
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:15,919
happen today I know the Lord is going to
1077
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:20,039
bring somebody to me that I can help
1078
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:24,300
I have a friend of mine his grandson was
1079
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:27,838
alcoholic he was despondent all the time
1080
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:29,880
I didn't speak against it I just told
1081
00:46:27,838 --> 00:46:32,880
him look when I get up in the morning
1082
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,740
I'm so excited I want to see who the
1083
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,180
Lord is going to bring to be that I can
1084
00:46:34,739 --> 00:46:38,179
help
1085
00:46:36,179 --> 00:46:40,500
if I could get his mind off himself
1086
00:46:38,179 --> 00:46:42,539
helping others
1087
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:44,539
so that's what I was trying to do to
1088
00:46:42,539 --> 00:46:47,219
help other people
1089
00:46:44,539 --> 00:46:49,199
but it's interesting how many things
1090
00:46:47,219 --> 00:46:51,239
have happened where somebody's brought
1091
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:53,519
to my attention that I can do something
1092
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:56,578
for well that's a beautiful perspective
1093
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:59,338
thank you for sharing that when do you
1094
00:46:56,579 --> 00:47:01,619
have any current goals you have like
1095
00:46:59,338 --> 00:47:05,759
long-term projects you're working toward
1096
00:47:01,619 --> 00:47:08,338
well I'm trying to get my message out
1097
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,440
about the lifestyle
1098
00:47:08,338 --> 00:47:11,338
which really basically is vegetarian
1099
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,539
diet
1100
00:47:11,338 --> 00:47:14,039
see
1101
00:47:12,539 --> 00:47:16,619
uh
1102
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:19,880
that's what I'm trying to get out
1103
00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:23,880
because it's so reasonable it's sensible
1104
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:26,280
it's not hard to do in this country you
1105
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,000
know but to get people that want to do
1106
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,859
it
1107
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,780
I'm trying to show them the reasons why
1108
00:47:28,858 --> 00:47:34,078
it should be done
1109
00:47:30,780 --> 00:47:36,780
I got six good reasons I give them why
1110
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:38,460
it should be done and you know we
1111
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:41,819
oftentimes think you have to be a doctor
1112
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:44,220
or a PhD or something
1113
00:47:41,818 --> 00:47:44,940
to be able to tell people this stuff you
1114
00:47:44,219 --> 00:47:47,699
don't
1115
00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:50,960
I've taken kids and trained them in five
1116
00:47:47,699 --> 00:47:54,480
weeks how to do health education
1117
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,818
and it worked it worked for example
1118
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,719
given five reasons why you shouldn't
1119
00:47:56,818 --> 00:48:00,539
smoke
1120
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,939
get them go out and tell everybody you
1121
00:48:00,539 --> 00:48:04,500
don't have to have an MD to do that and
1122
00:48:02,940 --> 00:48:06,780
you could take nutrition and break it
1123
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:08,639
down into little bits and tell them
1124
00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:09,720
here's the five things you need to know
1125
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:10,618
about it
1126
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,279
um
1127
00:48:10,619 --> 00:48:17,760
and it works so I've tried that and I'm
1128
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:20,040
really excited about getting organized
1129
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,440
a program to work with young people and
1130
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:26,639
get young people to do the education
1131
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:28,980
like in your local area yeah I I have
1132
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:32,219
all outlined how to do it
1133
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:33,780
but I don't have the energy now at this
1134
00:48:32,219 --> 00:48:36,419
age to do it
1135
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:40,920
I need to get somebody who'll grab my
1136
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:43,318
idea and activate it I want to I want to
1137
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,420
get kids doing it oh you should share
1138
00:48:43,318 --> 00:48:47,159
with us your your plans so that maybe
1139
00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:49,500
somebody who has the energy and time to
1140
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:51,420
do it will do it yeah I'm excited
1141
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:53,460
because I have all kinds of subjects
1142
00:48:51,420 --> 00:48:55,019
that they could lecture on was there
1143
00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:56,818
anything we didn't cover that you want
1144
00:48:55,019 --> 00:48:58,619
to make sure you shared
1145
00:48:56,818 --> 00:49:01,318
my dad
1146
00:48:58,619 --> 00:49:03,720
was heavily what temperature we call it
1147
00:49:01,318 --> 00:49:06,199
tobacco and alcohol
1148
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:10,500
of our Adventist Church in Washington
1149
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:13,259
Sierra Tacoma Parks Silver Spring area
1150
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:14,579
he made the film
1151
00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:17,940
with a
1152
00:49:14,579 --> 00:49:18,839
Dr oxner chest surgeon taking out the
1153
00:49:17,940 --> 00:49:21,300
man's
1154
00:49:18,838 --> 00:49:22,920
lungs because he's smoking he had
1155
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:24,660
cancers alone
1156
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,000
and it was called one in twenty thousand
1157
00:49:24,659 --> 00:49:29,940
at that time we had about twenty
1158
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,219
thousand dying every year from smoking a
1159
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:34,920
lot more since that time
1160
00:49:32,219 --> 00:49:36,779
and this one was the one that was going
1161
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,800
to be saved because it had his lung
1162
00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:40,680
removed
1163
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:43,920
he took that film
1164
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:45,539
he showed it to a British Parliament a
1165
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,760
Great Britain London
1166
00:49:45,539 --> 00:49:49,980
it had a big effect on them over there
1167
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,839
yeah it was
1168
00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:54,539
and he did
1169
00:49:51,838 --> 00:49:55,858
that in New York City in a big hotel 800
1170
00:49:54,539 --> 00:49:58,019
people there
1171
00:49:55,858 --> 00:50:02,519
some people would think those are the
1172
00:49:58,019 --> 00:50:04,380
days TVs didn't have much blood yeah and
1173
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:06,500
this was what the people were fainting
1174
00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:09,599
oh my gosh oh my gosh
1175
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:12,239
but uh my dad was a
1176
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:13,859
really helped remove the stop smoking
1177
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,578
program yeah
1178
00:50:13,858 --> 00:50:20,400
I think technology has been improving a
1179
00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:22,200
lot for example when my dad had cataract
1180
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,780
surgery
1181
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:26,960
he had to stay flat in bed for three
1182
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:26,960
days
1183
00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:35,460
there was pain doing it I had mine out
1184
00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:38,039
in 15 minutes
1185
00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:39,980
you know I had it out I could get up and
1186
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:42,119
exercise and do everything right away
1187
00:50:39,980 --> 00:50:43,800
tremendous change
1188
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:47,039
uh for example
1189
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,180
Dennis we are always used to be scared
1190
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:50,219
to go over the dentist because it was
1191
00:50:48,179 --> 00:50:52,318
painful yeah
1192
00:50:50,219 --> 00:50:54,179
I have a dentist here now putting in
1193
00:50:52,318 --> 00:50:58,619
implants
1194
00:50:54,179 --> 00:51:01,019
no pain good no pain at all tremendous
1195
00:50:58,619 --> 00:51:02,818
Advance good yeah
1196
00:51:01,019 --> 00:51:05,219
I think of surgery
1197
00:51:02,818 --> 00:51:07,800
for example we may have more breast
1198
00:51:05,219 --> 00:51:10,858
cancer than we used to have
1199
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,220
but our surgery is better
1200
00:51:10,858 --> 00:51:17,039
at we are saving patients from dying
1201
00:51:14,219 --> 00:51:18,959
yeah because of surgery
1202
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:21,838
so there's a lot of things that
1203
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,519
technology has been improving tremendous
1204
00:51:21,838 --> 00:51:25,980
in the medical field
1205
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:30,659
but as far as what we should be doing
1206
00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:32,960
now I think is important yeah the aces I
1207
00:51:30,659 --> 00:51:35,338
mentioned or the children's programs
1208
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,960
obesity we got to do something about
1209
00:51:35,338 --> 00:51:38,940
obesity
1210
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,480
exercise
1211
00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:45,960
we got to get people exercising
1212
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:48,539
and you have to eat less calories yeah
1213
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:51,420
how do we do that there's two meals they
1214
00:51:48,539 --> 00:51:53,818
think it really works where he's having
1215
00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:56,220
more alcohol problems
1216
00:51:53,818 --> 00:51:58,980
much more alcohol problem
1217
00:51:56,219 --> 00:51:59,939
and that increases the women's breast
1218
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:01,440
cancer
1219
00:51:59,940 --> 00:52:04,200
midlife
1220
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,519
drinking is a bad thing we need to do
1221
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:07,139
something about that
1222
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:09,239
we should do it like we did with the
1223
00:52:07,139 --> 00:52:10,920
smoking
1224
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,439
tax it
1225
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,119
access to that that's alcohol waves
1226
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,200
attacks are very high like they did with
1227
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:19,079
cigarettes
1228
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:21,779
besides the taxes make laws you can only
1229
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:24,480
drink here there you know that's what
1230
00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:27,240
they did with the smoking uh
1231
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,699
we've got to get people moving towards a
1232
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,799
vegetarian diet
1233
00:52:28,699 --> 00:52:34,500
a lot of people are doing that
1234
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,599
that means we got to educate other why
1235
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:39,420
they should be vegetarian
1236
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:41,818
in 2015 the US government said it's an
1237
00:52:39,420 --> 00:52:43,380
Optimum diet
1238
00:52:41,818 --> 00:52:45,779
but
1239
00:52:43,380 --> 00:52:47,460
not many people moved because they made
1240
00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:50,780
that statement we got to do something
1241
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:50,780
yeah with that
1242
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:55,858
now it's interesting about blood
1243
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:58,260
pressure what are we going to do about
1244
00:52:55,858 --> 00:53:00,420
hypertension
1245
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:03,180
I began to get high blood pressure but
1246
00:53:00,420 --> 00:53:06,119
not till I was in my 80s
1247
00:53:03,179 --> 00:53:09,899
and it's very low do you take medication
1248
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:12,240
for it I do the Lost pill I am but it's
1249
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:14,838
kind of interesting if I'd had it when I
1250
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,838
was 50
1251
00:53:14,940 --> 00:53:20,039
have time to cause a lot of trouble but
1252
00:53:17,699 --> 00:53:23,480
I didn't get until I was 80.
1253
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:23,480
so it made it quite a difference
1254
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,440
but hypertension
1255
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,318
if you get enough liminalic acid in your
1256
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,760
diet
1257
00:53:30,318 --> 00:53:36,838
polyunsaturated fatty acids but most
1258
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:39,420
plant oils you won't get hypertension
1259
00:53:36,838 --> 00:53:41,759
if you get enough fiber in your diet you
1260
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:43,260
won't get hypertension if you get only
1261
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,599
12
1262
00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:47,700
grams a day of fiber
1263
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:50,220
compared to uh
1264
00:53:47,699 --> 00:53:51,779
24 grams
1265
00:53:50,219 --> 00:53:56,279
you have
1266
00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:59,880
about 57 percent higher risk of
1267
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:03,720
hypertension if you get enough potassium
1268
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:05,280
you with our rats they won't get
1269
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,558
high blood pressure they won't have any
1270
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,780
problems
1271
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:11,700
and with humans there's no studies that
1272
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:14,400
they don't get hypertension if they get
1273
00:54:11,699 --> 00:54:16,739
enough potassium we're supposed to have
1274
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,838
twice as much potassium as we have
1275
00:54:16,739 --> 00:54:21,239
sodium we have it just turned around
1276
00:54:18,838 --> 00:54:23,400
we're getting twice as much sodium as we
1277
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,439
are potassium
1278
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,358
and potassium is from the fruits of
1279
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,960
vegetables
1280
00:54:27,358 --> 00:54:34,199
yeah meat gives us 25 of our salt our
1281
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:37,139
sodium is in meat
1282
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:39,659
and a lot of our breakfast cereals they
1283
00:54:37,139 --> 00:54:42,900
had so
1284
00:54:39,659 --> 00:54:44,460
I used some breakfast cereals and first
1285
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:48,780
thing I do I try to make sure there's
1286
00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:51,720
not more than five grams of uh sugar per
1287
00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:53,700
serving yeah it's me I got to be under
1288
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,959
that for me to use it our fancy
1289
00:54:53,699 --> 00:54:56,759
cameraman Chris do you have any
1290
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,338
questions I think you've done a really
1291
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,780
good job of asking the questions how can
1292
00:54:59,338 --> 00:55:03,539
I get in to see Gary Fraser and
1293
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:06,180
interview him he's a good friend of mine
1294
00:55:03,539 --> 00:55:08,579
he wrote a book you know in 2003. I read
1295
00:55:06,179 --> 00:55:10,078
it put out by the Oxford press in fact
1296
00:55:08,579 --> 00:55:11,700
I've ordered two of yearbooks how many
1297
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:14,220
books have you written I have written
1298
00:55:11,699 --> 00:55:15,899
many I I'll tell you well I've ordered
1299
00:55:14,219 --> 00:55:19,500
two of your books I thought I heard you
1300
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:21,960
say on Chef AJ live that you wrote a
1301
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:24,659
book all about fat yeah I can't find it
1302
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,480
I can give you one oh I want one I want
1303
00:55:24,659 --> 00:55:30,539
it autographed see it's just a little
1304
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:33,480
pamphlets oh yeah it's my lectures that
1305
00:55:30,539 --> 00:55:36,058
I had with slides I made each page of
1306
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,760
the book one of those and I have lots of
1307
00:55:36,059 --> 00:55:40,740
things like that now something I'd like
1308
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,280
you to see I'm trying to make it
1309
00:55:40,739 --> 00:55:47,879
attractive oh that's pretty how do you
1310
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:50,280
like that yeah that's a very prettier
1311
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,440
pretty graphic you can't really copy
1312
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,300
that very well oh one other thing I want
1313
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,619
to show you you've got to see this then
1314
00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:57,359
you hold it up so the camera can see
1315
00:55:55,619 --> 00:55:59,099
yeah it looks like we got some slides
1316
00:55:57,358 --> 00:56:01,858
and I have this all on the computer
1317
00:55:59,099 --> 00:56:04,980
how's diet related to you're being
1318
00:56:01,858 --> 00:56:06,900
alcoholic or to open them at this point
1319
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:09,119
Michelle and I got treated to a
1320
00:56:06,900 --> 00:56:11,099
fascinating talk linking junk food to
1321
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:13,740
acquiring a propensity towards alcohol
1322
00:56:11,099 --> 00:56:16,200
and drug abuse the initial research was
1323
00:56:13,739 --> 00:56:17,879
done at Loma Linda in the 60s when Dr
1324
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:20,279
Register was head of the school of
1325
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,740
nutrition where Dr scharfenberg worked
1326
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:25,140
Dr Register was a giant in the field and
1327
00:56:22,739 --> 00:56:27,659
one of the discoverers of B12 in the
1328
00:56:25,139 --> 00:56:29,759
late 40s the initial studies were on
1329
00:56:27,659 --> 00:56:31,739
rats whose diet was changed to the
1330
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:35,040
standard American diet of donuts hot
1331
00:56:31,739 --> 00:56:37,500
dogs and all the rest poor rats if he
1332
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,818
gave them a good diet here the height of
1333
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:41,639
the line represents the amount of
1334
00:56:38,818 --> 00:56:44,039
alcohol they drink every rat knows not
1335
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:46,440
to drink alcohol yeah they drink only
1336
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:48,779
water when they put them on the junk
1337
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:52,079
food diet they start a write-off
1338
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:53,940
drinking some alcohol and seventh week
1339
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:56,579
they took off and became real alcoholic
1340
00:56:53,940 --> 00:56:57,720
raps we've found out biochemically how
1341
00:56:56,579 --> 00:56:59,579
that works
1342
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,618
the talk got pretty technical but the
1343
00:56:59,579 --> 00:57:04,680
bottom line is when rats ate junk food
1344
00:57:01,619 --> 00:57:06,960
their bodies produced opium to be sure
1345
00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:09,239
that we're right in our Theory we
1346
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,639
injected these alcoholic rats who were
1347
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:15,419
making morphine we inject them with
1348
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:17,759
morphine they drink water really
1349
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:20,280
wow that's amazing see they're getting
1350
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,359
already what their body craze if you
1351
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,140
give
1352
00:57:21,358 --> 00:57:29,519
a human being who's obese
1353
00:57:25,139 --> 00:57:32,879
you go give him an opiate blocker I have
1354
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:35,759
one here that they tried it affects the
1355
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:39,180
dopamine Center in the brain they stop
1356
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:42,720
eating the foods that they craves so we
1357
00:57:39,179 --> 00:57:45,480
can now divide up obese people who have
1358
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:49,259
a physical logical craving because of
1359
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:52,260
the Opium oh wow from those who who have
1360
00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:55,020
another kind of obesity so are you very
1361
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:56,700
familiar with the new obesity drugs that
1362
00:57:55,019 --> 00:57:59,280
are coming out
1363
00:57:56,699 --> 00:58:01,739
they're having they're having one of
1364
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,200
them is a Sophia oh it is Locker costs a
1365
00:58:01,739 --> 00:58:05,939
thousand dollars it's expensive I've
1366
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:09,539
heard it's very successful
1367
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:11,519
yes but people who take it say Wow now I
1368
00:58:09,539 --> 00:58:13,619
know what a normal person feels like
1369
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:15,119
because right now I'm not hungry all day
1370
00:58:13,619 --> 00:58:17,940
long but there's another group who are
1371
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:20,519
obese but not from that reason see so we
1372
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:22,980
can separate the kind of obesity now I
1373
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:25,199
see because of this oh that's exciting
1374
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:27,719
and do they know what percent of people
1375
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:29,759
are obese because of no we don't know
1376
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:31,318
they're just now getting into the
1377
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,079
research on this thing
1378
00:58:31,318 --> 00:58:36,659
but you see Dr Register
1379
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:40,200
found out with animals that's true yeah
1380
00:58:36,659 --> 00:58:41,818
wow way back wow 1960s
1381
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:44,699
yeah amazing
1382
00:58:41,818 --> 00:58:46,679
but now we're finding out it's true and
1383
00:58:44,699 --> 00:58:49,679
they're doing it with overweight people
1384
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:52,019
so something about their diet that's
1385
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:55,019
making them produce opium
1386
00:58:52,019 --> 00:58:57,480
we got to find out what that is yes
1387
00:58:55,019 --> 00:58:59,579
so Dr scharfenberg sometimes I think
1388
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,920
most of what we know about nutrition we
1389
00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:04,920
knew in the 70s we knew a long time ago
1390
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,539
here a long time ago and now fad diets
1391
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,579
keep coming and the food companies are
1392
00:59:06,539 --> 00:59:11,099
marketing and they're messing with our
1393
00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:13,380
brains did you ever meet Ansel Keys what
1394
00:59:11,099 --> 00:59:15,539
did you think of answer keys I had to
1395
00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:18,960
invited them out to my facility you did
1396
00:59:15,539 --> 00:59:21,480
yeah how was he what was he like he's a
1397
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,699
doctor in physiology yeah University of
1398
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,798
Minnesota yes yeah and he did the
1399
00:59:23,699 --> 00:59:27,539
seventh country study you know quite
1400
00:59:25,798 --> 00:59:30,059
respected right
1401
00:59:27,539 --> 00:59:32,460
yes there were problems with it but but
1402
00:59:30,059 --> 00:59:35,760
he was a well-respected scientist yeah
1403
00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:37,798
yeah and that that was a nice study they
1404
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:41,460
did those seven countries study yeah I
1405
00:59:37,798 --> 00:59:43,500
knew him well the head of the Framingham
1406
00:59:41,460 --> 00:59:45,240
study was a friend of mine too so yeah
1407
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:48,358
that was that was an epic study I heard
1408
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:52,098
you say once that he used to think HDL
1409
00:59:48,358 --> 00:59:52,098
was significant in heart disease
1410
00:59:53,179 --> 00:59:58,980
yeah Dr castelli
1411
00:59:56,460 --> 01:00:00,900
yeah and then he said you know what we
1412
00:59:58,980 --> 01:00:03,059
found out in the modern day that HDL
1413
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:05,160
doesn't matter that's right they did a
1414
01:00:03,059 --> 01:00:08,940
study of 600 000 people or some people
1415
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:11,399
but wow Canada the Chinese comedians did
1416
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:13,619
the study and it didn't seem like HDL
1417
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,960
has anything to do with heart disease
1418
01:00:13,619 --> 01:00:19,079
yeah now all the talk is non-hdl
1419
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,880
cholesterol that's right so and do you
1420
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:23,519
ever talk about APO b or is it too
1421
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,500
complicated for consumers the latest
1422
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:29,159
thing is
1423
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:30,900
that we can reduce heart disease
1424
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:35,639
80 percent
1425
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:37,880
Strokes 80 percent diabetes 88 with
1426
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:42,000
avoiding these seven risk factors yeah
1427
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:45,019
lifestyle rather than medicine yeah that
1428
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,460
is brand new of concept yeah that's a
1429
01:00:45,019 --> 01:00:49,440
that's a Brand New Concept I've heard
1430
01:00:47,460 --> 01:00:51,539
you say that on other interviews you see
1431
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,818
Ellen White was telling us this and I
1432
01:00:51,539 --> 01:00:57,000
was a medical student that bothered me
1433
01:00:53,818 --> 01:01:00,119
yeah you know how could that be yeah and
1434
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:02,400
here we now know it scientifically isn't
1435
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:04,640
it amazing it is amazing so I've heard
1436
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,740
these Adventist professors say
1437
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:10,019
we used to be thought of as crackpots
1438
01:01:07,739 --> 01:01:12,479
yeah that's right in fact I heard you
1439
01:01:10,019 --> 01:01:15,659
say tell Michelle you couldn't raise a
1440
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:18,240
child on that's right now it's it's
1441
01:01:15,659 --> 01:01:21,118
respected and it's respected yeah very
1442
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:23,939
respected yeah am I right in thinking
1443
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:25,619
that the Adventists In America which is
1444
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:26,760
not the longest lived population in the
1445
01:01:25,619 --> 01:01:28,318
world
1446
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,359
are the longest lived people in the
1447
01:01:28,318 --> 01:01:32,460
world now they're the longest lived Blue
1448
01:01:30,358 --> 01:01:34,980
Zone they're the only ones that have
1449
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:37,440
been scientifically studied yeah these
1450
01:01:34,980 --> 01:01:39,838
others the National Geographic man I
1451
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,480
know him yeah he he didn't study it Dan
1452
01:01:39,838 --> 01:01:44,400
buettner yeah yeah he just wants to know
1453
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,980
how do you feel about this diet yeah
1454
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:49,019
it's psychologically he's not thinking
1455
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:51,179
about the science of it I gave my whole
1456
01:01:49,019 --> 01:01:53,539
list of scientific things for longevity
1457
01:01:51,179 --> 01:01:56,818
yeah he wasn't interested in that yeah
1458
01:01:53,539 --> 01:01:58,920
oh that's funny but so but the
1459
01:01:56,818 --> 01:02:01,980
Adventists have had hundreds of studies
1460
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,659
yeah awesome see this is why I want to
1461
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:06,358
interview Dr Fraser because the
1462
01:02:03,659 --> 01:02:07,679
Adventist 2 study is amazing it is it's
1463
01:02:06,358 --> 01:02:09,779
one of the most amazing studies I've
1464
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:13,759
ever seen he doesn't like the way I say
1465
01:02:09,780 --> 01:02:13,760
it oh really well how do you say it
1466
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,680
he wants to look at it this way he's not
1467
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,900
trying to brag about Adventists he's
1468
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:23,039
trying to downplay that yeah he's trying
1469
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:25,858
to say
1470
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:29,219
what an Adventist lifestyle is the thing
1471
01:02:25,858 --> 01:02:31,920
that we can get everybody to accept yeah
1472
01:02:29,219 --> 01:02:34,459
fair enough and see that's what he wants
1473
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:37,260
to do yeah and I've met him on the steps
1474
01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:40,679
I said look Adventures are doing so much
1475
01:02:37,260 --> 01:02:43,559
about he didn't like that he he doesn't
1476
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:46,199
want us brag about that he just wants to
1477
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:48,420
see hey these are things we learned from
1478
01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:50,939
this study that should help everybody in
1479
01:02:48,420 --> 01:02:53,338
the world oh wow yeah that's what he's
1480
01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:55,318
trying to do yeah I see he's a good guy
1481
01:02:53,338 --> 01:02:57,779
he's a good guy he eats some fish right
1482
01:02:55,318 --> 01:03:01,739
you know that book that he put out yeah
1483
01:02:57,780 --> 01:03:05,040
he needed to get time off to do that I
1484
01:03:01,739 --> 01:03:07,558
arranged for him to get oh financed oh
1485
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:10,858
so we have you to think that's awesome
1486
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:14,339
it was awesome 2003 he went to Oxford
1487
01:03:10,858 --> 01:03:16,980
yeah to get ideas on new ways to
1488
01:03:14,338 --> 01:03:19,380
calculate things statistically yeah
1489
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:21,599
that's where he got the idea
1490
01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:23,700
what percent of the population lives to
1491
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:26,039
be 85 or longer that's another way of
1492
01:03:23,699 --> 01:03:29,338
looking at it see he worked he was
1493
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:31,318
unsabbatical at Oxford right yeah and he
1494
01:03:29,338 --> 01:03:34,380
worked with the Epic Oxford team the
1495
01:03:31,318 --> 01:03:36,058
other vegetarian study I I don't know he
1496
01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:38,940
must have known all that he knew all
1497
01:03:36,059 --> 01:03:41,339
their decisions yeah but he went there
1498
01:03:38,940 --> 01:03:44,579
to learn that yeah how can you look at
1499
01:03:41,338 --> 01:03:46,039
things sensitively in a different way to
1500
01:03:44,579 --> 01:03:48,660
make it
1501
01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:50,759
interesting to people well he has said
1502
01:03:48,659 --> 01:03:53,338
that their outcomes were very different
1503
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,720
than Adventist outcomes and he said when
1504
01:03:53,338 --> 01:03:56,578
we looked at the data it's because of
1505
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:58,858
what they were eating in the UK they
1506
01:03:56,579 --> 01:04:00,599
were eating a lot of processed food the
1507
01:03:58,858 --> 01:04:03,239
Epic Oxford study
1508
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:05,760
with no good study oh really some people
1509
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:08,519
commented to me on that yeah and I know
1510
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,740
what they're talking about yeah because
1511
01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:14,219
the study group
1512
01:04:10,739 --> 01:04:16,500
did have the near the death rate
1513
01:04:14,219 --> 01:04:19,379
that the whole population had oh that's
1514
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:21,559
where it was off it wasn't adequate
1515
01:04:19,380 --> 01:04:24,900
control group I see
1516
01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:28,079
interesting see that's fascinating so
1517
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:29,880
they still it's still going on so
1518
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:32,039
this is fascinating have we worn you out
1519
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:34,079
are you done no I want you to see the
1520
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:36,838
food yeah no we want to see the food too
1521
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:38,640
absolutely it's not my refrigerator I've
1522
01:04:36,838 --> 01:04:40,259
got a little section oh we'll see your
1523
01:04:38,639 --> 01:04:42,779
section I only want to talk to you for
1524
01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:44,940
three more hours
1525
01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:47,579
Chef AJ's gonna throw you a 100 Year
1526
01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:51,119
birthday party don't
1527
01:04:47,579 --> 01:04:53,220
I think she is I don't know I have a
1528
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:55,858
very exciting guest today his name is Dr
1529
01:04:53,219 --> 01:04:57,719
John scharfenberg I was surprised I got
1530
01:04:55,858 --> 01:05:00,019
so many hits oh yeah you're a celebrity
1531
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:02,939
you're a YouTube Star
1532
01:05:00,019 --> 01:05:05,159
470 yeah eight or something like that
1533
01:05:02,940 --> 01:05:07,500
yeah a thousand biggest episodes she
1534
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:10,318
ever did yeah it is yeah yeah and that's
1535
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:13,159
not the only one where you were with
1536
01:05:10,318 --> 01:05:15,960
Doug Batchelor yeah pastor of the yeah
1537
01:05:13,159 --> 01:05:17,879
and I'm delighted today to have here in
1538
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,639
The Amazing fact Studios Dr John
1539
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,260
scharfenberg I had 500 000 in the first
1540
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:24,420
two weeks Amazing did you ever think you
1541
01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:27,000
would touch this many people no I didn't
1542
01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:29,338
I didn't Steve Jobs you know him yeah
1543
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,858
yeah he was my old boss is that right
1544
01:05:29,338 --> 01:05:33,539
yeah we'd go out to lunch well actually
1545
01:05:31,858 --> 01:05:34,739
I would go to lunch because everybody
1546
01:05:33,539 --> 01:05:36,420
else was eating ham and cheese
1547
01:05:34,739 --> 01:05:38,039
sandwiches on White Bread
1548
01:05:36,420 --> 01:05:42,000
and I would go to this little burrito
1549
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:44,119
place and they had brown rice and beans
1550
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,260
and guacamole and all that kind of stuff
1551
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:48,539
and you just got your whole wheat
1552
01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:50,579
tortilla and then they would put in
1553
01:05:48,539 --> 01:05:51,779
whatever filling you wanted and Steve
1554
01:05:50,579 --> 01:05:53,460
started looking at that he was
1555
01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:55,079
vegetarian he started looking at that
1556
01:05:53,460 --> 01:05:57,838
saying that looks pretty good are you
1557
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:59,099
Advantage Adventist and I said no I
1558
01:05:57,838 --> 01:06:01,259
didn't even know what an Adventist was
1559
01:05:59,099 --> 01:06:03,420
at the time and he said well can you buy
1560
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:04,740
me some of those burritos so when I
1561
01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:09,380
would go out to lunch I'd get one for
1562
01:06:04,739 --> 01:06:09,379
Steve and one for me three two one
1563
01:06:13,099 --> 01:06:19,798
Memorial Day happy Memorial Day
1564
01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:21,420
all righty let's see what the doctor
1565
01:06:19,798 --> 01:06:24,298
eats okay
1566
01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:26,159
there's bananas okay
1567
01:06:24,298 --> 01:06:27,619
I have raisins
1568
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:30,960
raisins
1569
01:06:27,619 --> 01:06:33,000
and prunes I haven't had raccoons for a
1570
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,858
year I gotta get some foods I love food
1571
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,900
we used to think that's just what old
1572
01:06:34,858 --> 01:06:39,558
people ate yeah I know but I guess you
1573
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,559
qualify now
1574
01:06:41,659 --> 01:06:46,739
Brazil nuts
1575
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,599
you know these have selenium yeah can't
1576
01:06:46,739 --> 01:06:51,719
you eat too many of them and get too
1577
01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:53,700
much selenium no oh really no but they
1578
01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:55,558
come from Brazil there's places where
1579
01:06:53,699 --> 01:06:57,419
they have sodium in the soil where they
1580
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:59,460
don't yeah it usually comes from those
1581
01:06:57,420 --> 01:07:01,740
places where they have selenium yeah
1582
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:05,519
it's supposed to decrease prostate
1583
01:07:01,739 --> 01:07:08,459
cancer oh I see and pecans
1584
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:10,500
how's your prostate cancer doing I don't
1585
01:07:08,460 --> 01:07:14,460
have any problem
1586
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:18,539
that's wonderful and almonds yeah and
1587
01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:20,159
cashews cashews so I have so much I have
1588
01:07:18,539 --> 01:07:24,059
trouble with cashews can you explain why
1589
01:07:20,159 --> 01:07:27,000
I don't know I can't stop eating them
1590
01:07:24,059 --> 01:07:28,980
uh Wallace is the best Handful in
1591
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:32,159
lowering blood cluster yeah yeah because
1592
01:07:28,980 --> 01:07:32,960
of the Omega-3s uh yeah well yeah that's
1593
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:36,358
right
1594
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:39,179
and how often do you eat nuts
1595
01:07:36,358 --> 01:07:42,139
I hate and that's almost every meal
1596
01:07:39,179 --> 01:07:44,118
this is one of my favorites
1597
01:07:42,139 --> 01:07:46,500
tofu
1598
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:48,900
and which part of this fridge is your
1599
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:51,059
stuff just a little this little drop
1600
01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:54,260
that's sat next to it cook cereal I
1601
01:07:51,059 --> 01:07:54,260
think cook cereal let's
1602
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:04,199
she always has it cooked here and
1603
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:06,660
applesauce
1604
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:10,038
and then down in here I want to show you
1605
01:08:06,659 --> 01:08:10,038
something where's the mangoes
1606
01:08:11,309 --> 01:08:15,298
[Music]
1607
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:18,179
raspberries is mice
1608
01:08:15,298 --> 01:08:21,500
cherries you saw them here and the
1609
01:08:18,179 --> 01:08:24,600
strawberries those are my three bags
1610
01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:26,759
and you eat a lot of bananas
1611
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,739
I like bananas don't they have high
1612
01:08:26,759 --> 01:08:29,759
glycemic index you don't worry about
1613
01:08:28,738 --> 01:08:32,000
that
1614
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:35,640
potatoes you know yeah
1615
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,899
hi guys but I don't really believe in
1616
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:40,199
that yet
1617
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:41,879
in Canada the British people did study
1618
01:08:40,198 --> 01:08:43,798
that but every time they do it they get
1619
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,020
a different number yeah it depends on
1620
01:08:43,798 --> 01:08:47,579
what else is in the meal and how it's
1621
01:08:46,020 --> 01:08:48,420
prepared
1622
01:08:47,579 --> 01:08:50,579
um
1623
01:08:48,420 --> 01:08:54,060
so we aren't really sure where we are on
1624
01:08:50,579 --> 01:08:55,738
that but I have a dietary friend she
1625
01:08:54,060 --> 01:08:57,179
doesn't eat potatoes anymore because
1626
01:08:55,738 --> 01:08:59,459
yeah
1627
01:08:57,179 --> 01:09:00,779
but and but you eat a couple of cups of
1628
01:08:59,460 --> 01:09:03,079
oats in the morning sometimes when
1629
01:09:00,779 --> 01:09:06,060
you're not having waffles
1630
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:07,619
I like the waffles the best they're the
1631
01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:10,520
best my wife
1632
01:09:07,619 --> 01:09:13,079
developed a waffle recipe
1633
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:15,540
it's gone all around the world I know
1634
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:17,640
because we use it you use it yeah with
1635
01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:21,719
bananas and applesauce that's right yes
1636
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:23,400
and oats it's a good food it's not just
1637
01:09:21,719 --> 01:09:25,560
good for breakfast but it's good for a
1638
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:28,079
snack later on our grandkids are eating
1639
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:30,600
like bread yeah yeah yeah our grandkids
1640
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:34,140
love them yeah can we see your books for
1641
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:36,239
books come in here
1642
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:38,759
it's not books it's a little little
1643
01:09:36,238 --> 01:09:40,738
things you study a room let me give you
1644
01:09:38,759 --> 01:09:44,640
the kinds of things I'm doing is
1645
01:09:40,738 --> 01:09:46,259
nutrition related to hypertension
1646
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,480
pamphlet
1647
01:09:46,259 --> 01:09:51,779
let's see what else do it
1648
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:54,479
I want you to get this one yeah I didn't
1649
01:09:51,779 --> 01:09:57,360
give references for it but I
1650
01:09:54,479 --> 01:10:00,119
miss you yeah
1651
01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:02,420
on exercise
1652
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:06,439
there we go and let's see what's in
1653
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:06,440
there's some good stuff there
1654
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:12,119
yeah it talks of the benefits of
1655
01:10:09,179 --> 01:10:13,920
exercise it says sitting time increases
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01:10:12,119 --> 01:10:16,319
death rate
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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,060
and the speed of walking is also
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01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:20,460
important
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01:10:18,060 --> 01:10:24,360
you can have that one if you want we
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01:10:20,460 --> 01:10:27,359
want it why I am a vegetarian well this
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01:10:24,359 --> 01:10:29,158
is a thick pamphlet wow you know I love
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01:10:27,359 --> 01:10:31,259
how you you made it so easy for people
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01:10:29,158 --> 01:10:32,759
to have these printouts and they can
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01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:35,659
read this now one of the best things
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01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:39,179
I've done did a School of Public Health
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01:10:35,658 --> 01:10:41,879
I discussed milk milk can you show us
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01:10:39,179 --> 01:10:44,399
that all the arguments against it all I
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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,119
recommend is for it and then I divided
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01:10:44,399 --> 01:10:47,939
them
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01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:51,899
two ways good arguments a bad arguments
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01:10:47,939 --> 01:10:53,819
oh yeah yeah Gary Fraser says people who
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01:10:51,899 --> 01:10:57,719
drink milk have lower
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01:10:53,819 --> 01:11:00,179
colorectal cancer than vegans do
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01:10:57,719 --> 01:11:02,219
is he right that's right
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01:11:00,179 --> 01:11:06,239
because of the calcium but all of you
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01:11:02,219 --> 01:11:08,158
female organs are less lower oh if they
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01:11:06,238 --> 01:11:10,979
are vegans
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01:11:08,158 --> 01:11:12,359
yeah wow and we don't really have enough
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01:11:10,979 --> 01:11:14,939
numbers
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01:11:12,359 --> 01:11:17,719
what do you mean by females organs are
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01:11:14,939 --> 01:11:17,719
lower uh
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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:22,560
breast cancer oh
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01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:25,679
uterine cancer ovary cancer if they
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01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,940
drink milk if they don't drink if they
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01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:30,719
don't drink if they don't drink less
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01:11:26,939 --> 01:11:34,019
yeah see it's only the colorectal that's
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01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:36,899
how I see I see uh but we don't have
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01:11:34,020 --> 01:11:38,900
large enough numbers to be sure to be
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01:11:36,899 --> 01:11:42,719
sure yeah now
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01:11:38,899 --> 01:11:44,219
he I said why why do I study coffee more
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01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:46,800
yeah
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01:11:44,219 --> 01:11:49,739
he says we don't have enough Adventure
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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,960
drinking coffee only eight percent oh
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01:11:49,738 --> 01:11:54,359
really
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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,980
I said Gary I was too one of the
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strictest
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01:11:55,979 --> 01:12:00,779
Arizona Adventist churches
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01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,179
and I checked them out
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01:12:00,779 --> 01:12:04,979
and they said 40 percent were drinking
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01:12:03,179 --> 01:12:07,560
coffee oh interesting
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01:12:04,979 --> 01:12:11,178
I think the difference is I don't have
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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,179
them put their name on the paper
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01:12:12,859 --> 01:12:17,099
that's funny
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01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:19,260
so you got to have an anonymous survey
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01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:21,260
you make it put some names on the paper
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01:12:19,260 --> 01:12:24,600
I said that's the difference
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01:12:21,260 --> 01:12:26,219
that's so great so great well this is
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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,420
quite a library you've got here well
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01:12:26,219 --> 01:12:32,520
it's so much not much but but I Got
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01:12:29,420 --> 01:12:35,579
the Whole Foods Foods in their natural
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01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:39,440
state that sounds like Ellen White take
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01:12:35,579 --> 01:12:39,439
yeah take one of those I'll take it
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01:12:46,579 --> 01:12:52,079
give you the one with that okay it's in
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01:12:49,738 --> 01:12:53,579
here I think these are this is your wife
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01:12:52,079 --> 01:12:56,519
here
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01:12:53,579 --> 01:12:58,738
no that's my mother oh your mother
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01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,480
she was a very nice person we just found
1718
01:12:58,738 --> 01:13:02,759
that picture a while back well and she
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01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,639
raised you vegetarians my son
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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,199
oh and the first time I realized that I
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01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,719
look at quite a bit of lighting yes you
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01:13:07,198 --> 01:13:10,919
do I was surprised I was about to tell
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01:13:09,719 --> 01:13:13,319
you that but I thought you would know
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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,560
are these some kind of old letters over
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01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:15,559
here
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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,360
uh like this
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01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:25,860
all right that's the letter I wrote
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01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:29,279
years ago 1991. I'll tell you why I
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01:13:25,859 --> 01:13:32,039
raise money for a group in Romania they
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01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:33,899
do it have a Lifestyle Center they have
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01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:37,738
programs three weeks or something like
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01:13:33,899 --> 01:13:40,379
that see it's 91 yeah but I raise the
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01:13:37,738 --> 01:13:42,959
money for them to start that thing I've
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01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:45,119
helped many groups like that get started
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01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,279
that's wonderful period of great
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01:13:45,119 --> 01:13:51,420
scientific advancement on diet and
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01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:53,279
preventive Cardiology 1948 and Beyond oh
1738
01:13:51,420 --> 01:13:56,158
that's awesome and you said right now
1739
01:13:53,279 --> 01:13:58,979
your current project is working on the
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01:13:56,158 --> 01:14:01,139
plan for for the young people to take up
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01:13:58,979 --> 01:14:03,379
I don't know who I can get to do that
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01:14:01,140 --> 01:14:06,780
kind of thing see
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01:14:03,380 --> 01:14:09,480
I think you don't have to have a PhD MD
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01:14:06,779 --> 01:14:12,960
to educate people I had a five-week
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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:14,579
course in School of Public Health I was
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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,939
afraid they might object to it but they
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01:14:14,579 --> 01:14:16,939
let me
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01:14:22,279 --> 01:14:29,279
not a year and and uh
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01:14:26,819 --> 01:14:31,139
they went out from there 16 banded
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01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:34,380
together it went out and started doing
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01:14:31,140 --> 01:14:36,260
programs very successful a wealthy man
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01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:38,699
in Philadelphia saw what they were doing
1753
01:14:36,260 --> 01:14:41,280
he said I'll pay all the expenses you
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01:14:38,698 --> 01:14:43,079
come up here and they did it's very
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01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:45,840
exciting what they did
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01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:48,000
these are the weed control programs I
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01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,699
show them how to draw blood in this
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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:53,399
first girl usually we have a sticker
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01:14:50,698 --> 01:14:56,519
needle and an orange you know but I look
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01:14:53,399 --> 01:14:59,158
at practice of me and she got into the
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01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:01,020
first shot she was so excited she jumped
1762
01:14:59,158 --> 01:15:05,119
up in that wheel and here's the thing
1763
01:15:01,020 --> 01:15:05,120
was popping up and down my arm
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01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:08,300
you're a brave man I wouldn't have done
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01:15:06,899 --> 01:15:10,979
it
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01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:14,340
I was the first one to take students
1767
01:15:10,979 --> 01:15:18,238
overseas we went to little islands and
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01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:21,539
they were 8 is 12 is 10 inches too short
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01:15:18,238 --> 01:15:25,198
compared to the world Irish kids in in
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01:15:21,539 --> 01:15:27,899
the wealthy District in Manila see
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01:15:25,198 --> 01:15:30,419
they weren't getting enough to eat so I
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01:15:27,899 --> 01:15:33,179
I had evening programs
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01:15:30,420 --> 01:15:36,000
for them there's no electricity at
1774
01:15:33,179 --> 01:15:39,239
Village I had a glass launcher
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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,079
they had worms we did worm studies oh
1776
01:15:39,238 --> 01:15:43,019
wow
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01:15:40,079 --> 01:15:45,119
and the stools the specials coconut
1778
01:15:43,020 --> 01:15:47,820
shell yeah one boy didn't have one so
1779
01:15:45,119 --> 01:15:51,859
his friends in this classmate gave him
1780
01:15:47,819 --> 01:15:51,859
part of his survey both had his Festival
1781
01:15:53,060 --> 01:15:59,460
anyway they have three different kinds
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01:15:55,679 --> 01:16:00,779
of worms wow and they had hookworm that
1783
01:15:59,460 --> 01:16:02,819
meant I had to do something about shoes
1784
01:16:00,779 --> 01:16:05,880
yeah I had to do something about
1785
01:16:02,819 --> 01:16:08,340
gardening we taught them gardening as a
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01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,560
rule the governor of the province
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01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:14,039
told every school they had disease
1788
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:16,679
gardening now that was worthwhile
1789
01:16:14,039 --> 01:16:18,800
that was worthwhile you know I have to
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01:16:16,679 --> 01:16:22,020
tell you I got pinworms at one time
1791
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,880
and they they crawl out of your butt at
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01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:26,400
night yeah and they make you really
1793
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:28,640
itchy yeah right I know it's gross poor
1794
01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:33,238
Michelle over there is about to vomit
1795
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:35,420
but I had a toilet building contest
1796
01:16:33,238 --> 01:16:38,339
wow and uh
1797
01:16:35,420 --> 01:16:40,199
we wanted to present immunization wasn't
1798
01:16:38,340 --> 01:16:42,440
part of us
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01:16:40,198 --> 01:16:44,460
wow because
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01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,079
that's their problem they always think
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01:16:44,460 --> 01:16:47,698
they have to have a doctor and I was
1802
01:16:46,079 --> 01:16:50,519
trying to show them they didn't need a
1803
01:16:47,698 --> 01:16:52,979
doctor see they could get well without a
1804
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:55,920
doctor but just living right it was
1805
01:16:52,979 --> 01:17:00,238
exciting wow it was really good public
1806
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:01,679
health so is your son a doctor yes I
1807
01:17:00,238 --> 01:17:03,299
heard that he married a nurse tonight
1808
01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:05,699
daughter is a nurse married to the
1809
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:07,920
doctor wow that's great but I heard he
1810
01:17:05,698 --> 01:17:12,059
said you're only going to live to 110
1811
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:14,579
and he said I was 110 yeah
1812
01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:17,120
what do you think about that I know I
1813
01:17:14,579 --> 01:17:17,119
think it's pretty good
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