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What was that 7 00:00:14,042 --> 00:00:14,917 purple light over there? 8 00:00:15,042 --> 00:00:16,667 I'm gonna head down. 9 00:00:16,750 --> 00:00:18,125 We need to know if this is 10 00:00:18,208 --> 00:00:20,000 - a reaction to that rocket. - What is that? 11 00:00:20,083 --> 00:00:23,333 Holy crap, it looks like it's following Thomas. 12 00:00:23,458 --> 00:00:25,500 - KALEB: Looks like a deer. - THOMAS: Look at this. 13 00:00:25,625 --> 00:00:28,083 What the heck would have burned this post? 14 00:00:28,208 --> 00:00:30,101 You know what it looks like? Like something just flew 15 00:00:30,125 --> 00:00:32,042 right through it. 16 00:00:33,167 --> 00:00:36,625 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 17 00:00:36,708 --> 00:00:39,167 It is considered the epicenter 18 00:00:39,250 --> 00:00:43,875 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 19 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,125 animal mutilations, 20 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:48,542 bizarre UFO sightings 21 00:00:48,708 --> 00:00:53,833 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 22 00:00:53,917 --> 00:00:56,167 For 20 years, the federal government 23 00:00:56,333 --> 00:00:59,792 tried to find answers and failed. 24 00:00:59,875 --> 00:01:03,958 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 25 00:01:04,042 --> 00:01:07,500 researchers and experts has taken over. 26 00:01:07,667 --> 00:01:11,708 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 27 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:17,583 The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 28 00:01:23,292 --> 00:01:25,167 When was the last time 29 00:01:25,292 --> 00:01:26,875 you were at the ranch, Jay? 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,167 - Uh, about 11 years ago. - 11 years ago. 31 00:01:30,333 --> 00:01:32,042 A lot's changed in 11 years. 32 00:01:32,167 --> 00:01:33,500 I bet a lot has changed. 33 00:01:34,625 --> 00:01:37,292 Over the past couple of months our team 34 00:01:37,375 --> 00:01:39,583 has experienced more unexplainable phenomena 35 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:41,583 on Skinwalker Ranch than ever before. 36 00:01:41,708 --> 00:01:44,167 So, while we're working out a new strategy 37 00:01:44,292 --> 00:01:47,333 to determine just what the two possibly metallic, 38 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:49,208 dome-shaped and vertical anomalies 39 00:01:49,333 --> 00:01:51,208 we've discovered inside the mesa are, 40 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:55,167 I've decided it's time to invite a colleague of mine here 41 00:01:55,292 --> 00:01:56,893 who has his own incredible history with the ranch... 42 00:01:56,917 --> 00:01:58,625 Jay Stratton. 43 00:01:59,625 --> 00:02:01,458 The first time you came out here, 44 00:02:01,542 --> 00:02:04,375 you were probably pretty skeptical, as I was. 45 00:02:04,542 --> 00:02:06,667 - I was 100% skeptical. - Me, too, man. 46 00:02:06,750 --> 00:02:07,917 I didn't believe none of it. 47 00:02:08,042 --> 00:02:09,500 Jay was not only 48 00:02:09,583 --> 00:02:11,059 a career defense intelligence official 49 00:02:11,083 --> 00:02:12,333 for the federal government, 50 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:15,250 but he was also my former boss 51 00:02:15,375 --> 00:02:17,792 in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force. 52 00:02:17,917 --> 00:02:23,167 And, between 2007 and 2011, he helped create and run 53 00:02:23,333 --> 00:02:25,417 a government program 54 00:02:25,542 --> 00:02:27,542 with former Skinwalker Ranch owner Robert Bigelow 55 00:02:27,667 --> 00:02:30,000 to investigate the bizarre phenomena 56 00:02:30,125 --> 00:02:31,792 happening on the property. 57 00:02:32,792 --> 00:02:34,875 JAY: So I came out 100% skeptical, 58 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,708 with the stories in mind, 59 00:02:36,833 --> 00:02:39,833 but-but wanting to see something for myself, 60 00:02:39,958 --> 00:02:42,667 and the ranch didn't disappoint. 61 00:02:42,792 --> 00:02:44,000 Right. 62 00:02:44,125 --> 00:02:45,000 JAY: I started working 63 00:02:45,125 --> 00:02:46,958 this topic in 2005. 64 00:02:47,042 --> 00:02:49,792 And I came into the topic because it was part of my job. 65 00:02:52,083 --> 00:02:53,917 As the Chief of Air and Space Warfare 66 00:02:54,042 --> 00:02:55,500 at the Defense Intelligence Agency, 67 00:02:55,583 --> 00:02:58,208 I was dealing with threats to U.S. platforms 68 00:02:58,333 --> 00:03:00,875 from foreign adversaries, highly technical capabilities. 69 00:03:02,542 --> 00:03:06,000 I fell into a point where I had to get really smart on UFOs, 70 00:03:06,167 --> 00:03:08,458 and there was nobody to turn to. 71 00:03:08,542 --> 00:03:11,292 So I kind of became that guy, 72 00:03:11,375 --> 00:03:14,333 not by design, not-not something I was looking for. 73 00:03:15,458 --> 00:03:17,500 I've briefed and provided written assessments 74 00:03:17,625 --> 00:03:19,375 all the way to the highest levels 75 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:21,500 of the executive branch and the legislative branch. 76 00:03:21,542 --> 00:03:23,167 I like to think I've got a little bit 77 00:03:23,292 --> 00:03:24,917 of credibility on this topic. 78 00:03:26,167 --> 00:03:28,792 2007, we built this contractual relationship 79 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:30,958 with Mr. Robert Bigelow, 80 00:03:31,042 --> 00:03:32,667 and the ranch became a contracted 81 00:03:32,833 --> 00:03:35,333 Defense Intelligence Agency observation point. 82 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:39,667 And I came out here to see things firsthand in 2009. 83 00:03:41,875 --> 00:03:45,833 Over those years, I've seen a lot of things I can't explain. 84 00:03:47,208 --> 00:03:49,333 And I'm out here again to do this research 85 00:03:49,417 --> 00:03:52,458 and hopefully better understand this phenomena. 86 00:03:54,583 --> 00:03:57,000 It did take a lot of thought 87 00:03:57,167 --> 00:03:58,917 and discussion with the family 88 00:03:59,042 --> 00:04:00,208 if I would do this again, 89 00:04:00,375 --> 00:04:03,167 just because of all the activity 90 00:04:03,250 --> 00:04:04,934 and everything else that's out here, you know? 91 00:04:04,958 --> 00:04:06,226 - Right. - There's-there's a risk, 92 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:07,583 but to me 93 00:04:07,708 --> 00:04:09,417 the investigation is more important 94 00:04:09,542 --> 00:04:11,542 and too important, so I really want to 95 00:04:11,667 --> 00:04:13,833 continue down that path of trying to get answers. 96 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,500 There is an accepted risk in coming out here. 97 00:04:16,667 --> 00:04:18,542 You know, no one knows what could happen. 98 00:04:18,708 --> 00:04:20,333 TRAVIS: We're about to move into 99 00:04:20,458 --> 00:04:21,601 - the ranch property here. - JAY: All right. 100 00:04:21,625 --> 00:04:23,667 This sounds crazy, but the ranch 101 00:04:23,833 --> 00:04:26,167 reacts differently to me than it does others. 102 00:04:26,333 --> 00:04:28,833 Some people have a lot of reaction out here 103 00:04:28,958 --> 00:04:30,083 and some have none. 104 00:04:30,208 --> 00:04:31,792 I really had to consider that 105 00:04:31,875 --> 00:04:33,917 and talk to my wife and talk to my kids. 106 00:04:34,042 --> 00:04:35,417 You know, I feel the same. 107 00:04:35,542 --> 00:04:37,059 I think that there's a moral imperative to this. 108 00:04:37,083 --> 00:04:38,292 I think this is 109 00:04:38,417 --> 00:04:39,643 extremely important and could be 110 00:04:39,667 --> 00:04:41,292 one of the most important things 111 00:04:41,375 --> 00:04:42,875 in human history. 112 00:04:43,042 --> 00:04:44,708 Absolutely. 113 00:04:44,875 --> 00:04:48,333 The ranch itself has been a big part of my life. 114 00:04:48,417 --> 00:04:51,333 It's because of the ranch that Travis and I came together 115 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:54,667 in a small room in the Pentagon to talk about the phenomenon, 116 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:58,417 and we really accomplished a lot in a short period of time. 117 00:04:58,542 --> 00:05:01,417 We see each other as-as valued teammates. 118 00:05:01,542 --> 00:05:03,292 We enjoy working together. 119 00:05:03,375 --> 00:05:05,415 We think we can do some really good things together. 120 00:05:06,208 --> 00:05:07,667 TRAVIS: All right, 121 00:05:07,750 --> 00:05:09,143 so we're going to get out and we'll take you in 122 00:05:09,167 --> 00:05:10,807 - and show you the command center. - Cool. 123 00:05:11,708 --> 00:05:13,875 TRAVIS: I want you all to meet Jay Stratton. 124 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,726 - ERIK: Good to meet you. - THOMAS: Welcome back. 125 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:18,875 TRAVIS: So, I've told them all about you, of course. 126 00:05:19,042 --> 00:05:21,333 So, what I'd like to hear 127 00:05:21,458 --> 00:05:24,750 is what events happened when you were here 128 00:05:24,875 --> 00:05:27,292 that you can describe in as much detail as you can, 129 00:05:27,375 --> 00:05:29,542 so we can determine if we've seen similar events. 130 00:05:29,708 --> 00:05:31,958 Absolutely. 131 00:05:32,083 --> 00:05:34,283 And have similar data that compares to what you've seen. 132 00:05:34,375 --> 00:05:37,042 So, when I came out here, the first-first trip 133 00:05:37,208 --> 00:05:38,500 out here, I was standing out, 134 00:05:38,625 --> 00:05:41,333 uh, kind of in the triangle area, 135 00:05:41,458 --> 00:05:43,184 was just randomly taking photographs and things. 136 00:05:43,208 --> 00:05:44,333 Lo and behold, right over 137 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:46,042 the mesa, there was 138 00:05:46,167 --> 00:05:48,059 an aircraft, craft or whatever you want to call it. 139 00:05:48,083 --> 00:05:51,625 UAP, now I would say, uh, which I-I coined that term. 140 00:05:54,625 --> 00:05:57,083 What? You gave us that term. 141 00:05:57,208 --> 00:05:59,268 - So, I created "UAP." - Yes, you can blame Jay for that, right? 142 00:05:59,292 --> 00:06:01,458 - I didn't know that. - JAY: Because I needed to 143 00:06:01,583 --> 00:06:03,250 get people away from "UFO" 144 00:06:03,375 --> 00:06:05,226 because of the connotations of little green men. 145 00:06:05,250 --> 00:06:07,833 So, you know, standing there, looking up, 146 00:06:07,917 --> 00:06:12,167 and over the mesa was this dart-like craft, 147 00:06:12,250 --> 00:06:13,684 I call it like a really tight triangle, 148 00:06:13,708 --> 00:06:15,958 uh, kind of, kind of coming in. 149 00:06:16,083 --> 00:06:17,917 He was level the whole time, 150 00:06:18,042 --> 00:06:20,792 and shot across, and I lost track of it. 151 00:06:22,708 --> 00:06:23,988 TRAVIS: During our investigation 152 00:06:24,083 --> 00:06:25,250 here on Skinwalker Ranch, 153 00:06:25,375 --> 00:06:27,417 we've seen a number of UAPs appear 154 00:06:27,542 --> 00:06:29,958 and disappear in the skies over the property. 155 00:06:30,083 --> 00:06:32,500 But two years ago, 156 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:34,333 we saw one right above the mesa 157 00:06:34,458 --> 00:06:36,167 that sounds a lot like what Jay witnessed. 158 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:37,458 Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. 159 00:06:37,583 --> 00:06:39,143 What is that right there? Right... Yeah. 160 00:06:39,250 --> 00:06:40,518 - ERIK: You seeing that? - Yes, yeah. 161 00:06:40,542 --> 00:06:42,143 - Back up a couple frames. - ERIK: All right. 162 00:06:42,167 --> 00:06:43,934 TRAVIS: You guys see? Look. Right here. See this? 163 00:06:43,958 --> 00:06:46,000 - BRYANT: What is that? - TRAVIS: I don't know yet. 164 00:06:46,125 --> 00:06:48,485 It appears there and then right there, right above the mesa. 165 00:06:48,542 --> 00:06:50,167 BRYANT: Right above the mesa. 166 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:51,417 TRAVIS: Could we be seeing 167 00:06:51,542 --> 00:06:53,125 the same kind of phenomena that Jay 168 00:06:53,250 --> 00:06:56,500 and members of the Bigelow team experienced back in 2009? 169 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:58,500 The similarities are striking. 170 00:06:58,583 --> 00:07:00,125 And another example, 171 00:07:00,250 --> 00:07:01,917 I think it was around 11:30 172 00:07:02,042 --> 00:07:04,000 at night. As we were out 173 00:07:04,167 --> 00:07:07,292 on that back deck one time, I think there were four of us, 174 00:07:07,375 --> 00:07:09,417 playing with a laser and doing other things. 175 00:07:09,542 --> 00:07:11,250 Uh, you know it was late and, uh, 176 00:07:11,375 --> 00:07:14,167 we observed a light on the mesa, 177 00:07:14,292 --> 00:07:15,792 with none of us doing anything. 178 00:07:15,875 --> 00:07:17,518 It was about the same spot where we had the laser. 179 00:07:17,542 --> 00:07:19,542 And I don't remember 180 00:07:19,667 --> 00:07:21,587 exactly who saw what, but one of us saw a circle, 181 00:07:21,708 --> 00:07:24,500 one saw a triangle, one saw a square, you know. 182 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:26,250 You're seeing different shapes. 183 00:07:26,375 --> 00:07:27,851 There may be a physiological explanation 184 00:07:27,875 --> 00:07:30,292 for that, I don't know, but we all saw 185 00:07:30,417 --> 00:07:31,667 distinctly different shapes 186 00:07:31,792 --> 00:07:33,458 of that same light. It's like it's 187 00:07:33,542 --> 00:07:35,622 giving a demonstration for each one of us separately. 188 00:07:35,708 --> 00:07:38,333 TRAVIS: Since I joined this investigation, 189 00:07:38,417 --> 00:07:40,208 the mesa has been a major hot spot 190 00:07:40,333 --> 00:07:42,000 of unexplainable phenomena. 191 00:07:42,167 --> 00:07:44,542 For example, back in 2018... 192 00:07:45,750 --> 00:07:47,667 Erik Bard captured surveillance footage 193 00:07:47,833 --> 00:07:50,833 of some very bizarre lights moving across the mesa, 194 00:07:50,917 --> 00:07:54,583 and even a beam of light emitting from it. 195 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:58,018 Again, I think it was around 11:30 at night, 196 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:00,333 and three of us were walking down a path 197 00:08:00,417 --> 00:08:02,167 joking with each other. 198 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:03,667 All of a sudden, we got quiet, 199 00:08:03,792 --> 00:08:05,333 and that's because we got to a point, 200 00:08:05,417 --> 00:08:07,017 and we could feel the temperature change. 201 00:08:08,208 --> 00:08:09,542 And as we moved forward 202 00:08:09,667 --> 00:08:11,708 to Homestead Two, it got colder and colder. 203 00:08:11,875 --> 00:08:14,208 There was a tree probably 300 yards or so 204 00:08:14,333 --> 00:08:16,542 shy of the Homestead Two. 205 00:08:16,667 --> 00:08:19,500 The moon was real bright and it was shining, 206 00:08:19,667 --> 00:08:21,167 it cast a shadow across that tree, 207 00:08:21,333 --> 00:08:23,083 drawing a line on the road. 208 00:08:24,292 --> 00:08:25,601 Now, one of my teammates was saying 209 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:26,917 that we can't cross that line. 210 00:08:27,042 --> 00:08:29,292 And we all had the attitude, you know, 211 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:31,167 "Screw that, we're going." Right? 212 00:08:31,250 --> 00:08:33,750 We could not cross that line 213 00:08:33,875 --> 00:08:35,208 no matter how hard we tried. 214 00:08:35,333 --> 00:08:37,083 First thing we felt was fear, 215 00:08:37,208 --> 00:08:38,458 and one of my teammates 216 00:08:38,583 --> 00:08:40,333 looked up and he saw a dark mass 217 00:08:40,458 --> 00:08:42,042 in the top of Homestead Two, 218 00:08:42,167 --> 00:08:44,247 like a shadow figure or something looking back at us. 219 00:08:45,667 --> 00:08:47,667 And basically, that was... We felt like 220 00:08:47,833 --> 00:08:49,559 whatever was going on down there, we wanted to see it, 221 00:08:49,583 --> 00:08:51,333 you know, we wanted to be there. 222 00:08:51,417 --> 00:08:53,375 There is so much in this story. I have heard 223 00:08:53,542 --> 00:08:54,851 a version of this story for years. 224 00:08:54,875 --> 00:08:56,667 I didn't know, I couldn't know, 225 00:08:56,792 --> 00:08:58,958 - that it was you. - It was, yeah. 226 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:02,792 One thing I've got to tell you, 227 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:05,333 just, uh, for academic honesty and ethics, 228 00:09:05,458 --> 00:09:07,000 is that, uh, 229 00:09:07,125 --> 00:09:10,917 we're going to use you today as part of an experiment. 230 00:09:11,042 --> 00:09:12,375 But I'm not going to 231 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:14,083 tell you what that experiment is 232 00:09:14,208 --> 00:09:16,083 until afterwards 'cause I don't want to taint 233 00:09:16,208 --> 00:09:17,667 the outcome of the experiment. 234 00:09:19,083 --> 00:09:20,792 Right. 235 00:09:20,875 --> 00:09:22,351 I've worked with Jay for several years now, 236 00:09:22,375 --> 00:09:23,500 and I've heard him say 237 00:09:23,583 --> 00:09:26,000 many times how he strongly believes 238 00:09:26,083 --> 00:09:28,708 Skinwalker Ranch seemed to react to his presence. 239 00:09:28,875 --> 00:09:31,625 When I first came here, Thomas Winterton 240 00:09:31,708 --> 00:09:34,500 also told me he believed the property reacted 241 00:09:34,667 --> 00:09:36,375 more to certain people than others. 242 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:38,625 So that gave Erik and I an idea 243 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:40,375 to see if we could actually prove it. 244 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:42,250 The word "bait" comes to mind. 245 00:09:42,375 --> 00:09:44,184 You won't be in any danger. We're not making you... 246 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:46,292 You're not shark bait or anything like that, right? 247 00:09:46,417 --> 00:09:47,208 No, I trust you guys. Yeah. 248 00:09:47,375 --> 00:09:49,042 Well, I appreciate that. 249 00:09:49,208 --> 00:09:50,851 So, we're gonna go on a tour of the ranch in a little bit, 250 00:09:50,875 --> 00:09:51,792 and you tell us about the things you'd seen 251 00:09:51,875 --> 00:09:53,000 and so on, and we'll be 252 00:09:53,125 --> 00:09:54,583 taking data while we're doing that. 253 00:09:54,708 --> 00:09:56,792 And then, afterwards, we'll tell you 254 00:09:56,917 --> 00:09:58,833 what type of data and that sort of thing. 255 00:09:58,958 --> 00:10:00,000 Okay, yeah. 256 00:10:00,083 --> 00:10:01,625 TRAVIS: Erik and I have come up 257 00:10:01,708 --> 00:10:02,748 with an experiment to test 258 00:10:02,875 --> 00:10:04,667 if the ranch reacts to Jay 259 00:10:04,833 --> 00:10:06,667 being back here after 11 years. 260 00:10:06,792 --> 00:10:09,833 And if his presence does stimulate phenomena to occur, 261 00:10:09,917 --> 00:10:12,000 can we identify what it is? 262 00:10:12,083 --> 00:10:13,667 That's what we'd like to find out. 263 00:10:13,833 --> 00:10:15,833 Again, the investigation's important. 264 00:10:15,917 --> 00:10:18,750 ERIK: Obviously it makes a lot of sense for us 265 00:10:18,875 --> 00:10:20,417 to study very carefully 266 00:10:20,542 --> 00:10:22,250 anything that our instruments can detect 267 00:10:22,375 --> 00:10:24,667 as we bring Jay onto the property 268 00:10:24,792 --> 00:10:26,432 and take him to certain points of interest 269 00:10:26,542 --> 00:10:27,833 from his experience, 270 00:10:27,958 --> 00:10:30,500 as well as to determine whether the ranch 271 00:10:30,667 --> 00:10:32,833 would respond to the novelty of his presence. 272 00:10:32,958 --> 00:10:35,583 Well, I really like this plan. 273 00:10:35,708 --> 00:10:37,309 You know, we've got a course laid out for ourselves. 274 00:10:37,333 --> 00:10:39,518 We've got some instruments that we want to take with us, 275 00:10:39,542 --> 00:10:40,809 so we should go get the instruments prepared 276 00:10:40,833 --> 00:10:42,833 and, uh, we'll head out. 277 00:10:42,958 --> 00:10:44,918 TRAVIS: All right, we'll meet you at the vehicles. 278 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,800 TRAVIS: I figured we could put it on the hood. 279 00:10:51,875 --> 00:10:53,500 Here, I've got... I've got some foam. 280 00:10:53,667 --> 00:10:54,542 Yeah, we don't want to scratch it. 281 00:10:54,667 --> 00:10:56,917 It's a common theory 282 00:10:57,042 --> 00:10:58,184 that Skinwalker Ranch responds to the presence 283 00:10:58,208 --> 00:10:59,333 of certain people. 284 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:00,625 So we're going to drive 285 00:11:00,708 --> 00:11:02,833 former ranch investigator Jay Stratton 286 00:11:02,917 --> 00:11:04,417 around to the hot spots 287 00:11:04,542 --> 00:11:07,167 where he experienced really bizarre phenomena 288 00:11:07,292 --> 00:11:08,643 when he was a part of the Bigelow investigation 289 00:11:08,667 --> 00:11:10,042 more than a decade ago. 290 00:11:10,167 --> 00:11:12,375 We'll see if him coming back to the property 291 00:11:12,542 --> 00:11:14,208 causes strange things to happen. 292 00:11:14,333 --> 00:11:16,253 - That ain't going anywhere. - That's good, yeah. 293 00:11:16,375 --> 00:11:17,875 So, I've got both of these 294 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,333 GPS trackers running and data logging. 295 00:11:20,458 --> 00:11:22,018 - Okay. All right. - We should be good to go, guys. 296 00:11:22,042 --> 00:11:23,792 TRAVIS: Erik has outfitted the Jeep 297 00:11:23,875 --> 00:11:26,500 with GPS sensors, gamma ray detectors, 298 00:11:26,583 --> 00:11:28,250 and the spectrum analyzer 299 00:11:28,375 --> 00:11:32,167 so we can continuously scan for strange energy spikes 300 00:11:32,250 --> 00:11:34,000 and pinpoint the locations where anything 301 00:11:34,125 --> 00:11:35,833 out of the ordinary might occur. 302 00:11:35,958 --> 00:11:37,708 I'll go jump in the black. 303 00:11:37,833 --> 00:11:39,351 - All right, you gonna follow behind? - Yep. 304 00:11:39,375 --> 00:11:40,667 After our tour with Jay, 305 00:11:40,792 --> 00:11:42,625 we'll duplicate the exact route 306 00:11:42,708 --> 00:11:44,333 without him on the property. 307 00:11:44,417 --> 00:11:46,708 That will allow us to compare the collected data sets 308 00:11:46,833 --> 00:11:48,125 to see if there really is 309 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:50,208 a measurable difference between the two. 310 00:11:51,417 --> 00:11:53,625 - You all in? - THOMAS: You are cleared for take-off. 311 00:11:53,708 --> 00:11:55,125 TRAVIS: We'll start the tour 312 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:56,958 in the eastern portion of the ranch. 313 00:11:57,042 --> 00:11:59,750 From there we'll head to the triangle, 314 00:11:59,875 --> 00:12:02,917 travel west past the mesa drill site, 315 00:12:03,042 --> 00:12:05,167 and then on to Homestead Two. 316 00:12:06,708 --> 00:12:08,667 If you see something you want to tell us about 317 00:12:08,792 --> 00:12:10,167 or ask us questions about, 318 00:12:10,250 --> 00:12:11,417 just say something 319 00:12:11,542 --> 00:12:13,333 and we'll stop and we'll do that. 320 00:12:13,458 --> 00:12:15,708 THOMAS: I want to know exactly where you were at 321 00:12:15,833 --> 00:12:18,000 with that apparition or whatever it was. 322 00:12:18,125 --> 00:12:20,667 TRAVIS: Yeah, me, too. All right, Jay, 323 00:12:20,792 --> 00:12:22,232 - now when we get to where... - Yeah. 324 00:12:22,333 --> 00:12:24,375 You think it's the spot, you just stop us. 325 00:12:26,042 --> 00:12:28,002 JAY: I'm pretty sure it was that tree right there. 326 00:12:32,208 --> 00:12:33,476 - You want to stop here? - Yeah, I mean, 327 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:34,708 this is about the right spot. 328 00:12:34,875 --> 00:12:36,083 TRAVIS: All right. 329 00:12:40,792 --> 00:12:42,958 - So, you think it's this way? - Yep. 330 00:12:43,042 --> 00:12:44,518 No, I think we're right at about the spot 331 00:12:44,542 --> 00:12:45,684 where we started to feel the fear. 332 00:12:45,708 --> 00:12:46,708 - Right in here? - Yeah. 333 00:12:46,792 --> 00:12:48,167 Where do you think the line was 334 00:12:48,292 --> 00:12:49,812 - in the road... - It was at that tree. 335 00:12:51,542 --> 00:12:52,667 - That tree? - Yep. 336 00:12:52,792 --> 00:12:54,250 I'm pretty sure that's the tree. 337 00:12:59,208 --> 00:13:00,833 The first night we were on the ranch, 338 00:13:00,958 --> 00:13:03,167 it was about 11:30 at night, 339 00:13:03,292 --> 00:13:07,125 and myself and my two teammates went for a walk. 340 00:13:08,083 --> 00:13:10,167 So, we walked down the road, 341 00:13:10,292 --> 00:13:12,417 made our way around the curve towards Homestead Two. 342 00:13:13,625 --> 00:13:16,125 And as we made that turn, 343 00:13:16,208 --> 00:13:18,667 there's a little tree casting a shadow, 344 00:13:18,750 --> 00:13:20,167 a line across the road, 345 00:13:20,292 --> 00:13:22,458 and as we pushed towards that line, 346 00:13:22,542 --> 00:13:24,875 I said, "Do you guys feel that?" 347 00:13:26,042 --> 00:13:28,708 And immediately one of my teammates said, 348 00:13:28,833 --> 00:13:29,851 "Yeah, the hair's standing up 349 00:13:29,875 --> 00:13:31,292 on the back of my neck." 350 00:13:33,375 --> 00:13:34,667 Feeling the fear 351 00:13:34,750 --> 00:13:36,542 about right here, 352 00:13:36,708 --> 00:13:38,908 and the temperature inversion was about right here, too. 353 00:13:39,042 --> 00:13:40,167 TRAVIS: Really? 354 00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:43,708 JAY: As we walk closer to Homestead Two, 355 00:13:43,875 --> 00:13:46,792 we felt a drastic drop in temperature. 356 00:13:48,375 --> 00:13:49,792 And it was a wall. 357 00:13:49,875 --> 00:13:51,195 You could put your arm through it, 358 00:13:51,250 --> 00:13:53,417 and you could feel the cold versus the heat. 359 00:13:53,542 --> 00:13:55,708 It was a drastic drop, 360 00:13:55,833 --> 00:13:58,667 something that just didn't belong. 361 00:13:58,792 --> 00:14:01,000 As soon as we come around the corner, 362 00:14:01,167 --> 00:14:03,917 the feeling was, "Turn around, go back." 363 00:14:04,042 --> 00:14:06,750 On the second floor of Homestead Two, 364 00:14:06,875 --> 00:14:08,292 through the night vision device, 365 00:14:08,417 --> 00:14:11,792 we saw what resembled a dark, shadowy figure. 366 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:19,125 I want to ask about the dark apparition. 367 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:21,375 - Can you point to where it was? - Absolutely. 368 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:22,833 Let's walk and see. 369 00:14:25,625 --> 00:14:27,125 JAY: That upper area right there. 370 00:14:27,250 --> 00:14:29,083 - Yeah. - KALEB: Up in there? 371 00:14:29,208 --> 00:14:30,000 Yep. 372 00:14:30,083 --> 00:14:32,417 We could see in the distance 373 00:14:32,542 --> 00:14:34,833 what looked like a shadow figure 374 00:14:34,958 --> 00:14:36,398 or, you know, a person, a dark person 375 00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:39,625 standing on the second floor of this structure, 376 00:14:39,708 --> 00:14:40,833 kind of in the middle, 377 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,208 staring right back at us. 378 00:14:43,333 --> 00:14:45,958 What's really interesting is that there is no floor there. 379 00:14:46,083 --> 00:14:48,708 And if you saw something standing in the middle, 380 00:14:48,875 --> 00:14:50,292 that's kind of bizarre. 381 00:14:50,375 --> 00:14:52,833 And you interpreted it as, basically, human form? 382 00:14:54,208 --> 00:14:55,728 It would have been pretty tall, though. 383 00:14:55,833 --> 00:14:57,375 Uh, yeah. 384 00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:00,000 TRAVIS: Now, while no one on our team 385 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:01,833 has seen such a distinct shadowy figure 386 00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:03,417 like what Jay described, 387 00:15:03,542 --> 00:15:05,542 we did have a very similar 388 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:06,684 experience at Homestead Two 389 00:15:06,708 --> 00:15:07,958 back in 2020. 390 00:15:08,958 --> 00:15:10,000 (speaking Hebrew) 391 00:15:10,167 --> 00:15:11,000 TRAVIS: When my friend 392 00:15:11,083 --> 00:15:12,667 Rabbi Ariel Tzadok 393 00:15:12,792 --> 00:15:14,500 performed an ancient Hebrew prayer 394 00:15:14,625 --> 00:15:16,250 that was actually designed 395 00:15:16,375 --> 00:15:18,958 for opening interdimensional portals, 396 00:15:19,042 --> 00:15:21,042 our thermal cameras captured a temperature vortex 397 00:15:21,167 --> 00:15:22,792 forming near the second floor 398 00:15:22,875 --> 00:15:24,750 of Homestead Two, right where 399 00:15:24,875 --> 00:15:27,708 Jay saw that shadowy figure appear. 400 00:15:27,875 --> 00:15:29,000 That's... that is odd. 401 00:15:29,083 --> 00:15:31,000 Focus on this part right here. 402 00:15:31,167 --> 00:15:33,500 TRAVIS: Then, when Erik reviewed the thermal footage, 403 00:15:33,625 --> 00:15:36,917 he spotted something small and colder than its surroundings 404 00:15:37,042 --> 00:15:38,958 moving very fast across the road 405 00:15:39,083 --> 00:15:40,833 in front of the homestead. 406 00:15:40,958 --> 00:15:42,333 - Oh. Oh. - Ho. Whoa. 407 00:15:42,458 --> 00:15:44,542 - What was that? - Right there, that. 408 00:15:45,708 --> 00:15:47,792 TRAVIS: Could this be the same type of phenomena 409 00:15:47,875 --> 00:15:49,515 that Jay and his colleagues witnessed here 410 00:15:49,542 --> 00:15:50,958 over ten years ago? 411 00:15:51,042 --> 00:15:52,625 We can't say for sure, 412 00:15:52,708 --> 00:15:54,333 but we do know more investigation 413 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:56,833 at Homestead Two is an absolute must. 414 00:15:56,958 --> 00:15:58,958 Kaleb, you gonna meet us down the road? 415 00:15:59,042 --> 00:16:01,667 After we visited the last stop on our ranch tour 416 00:16:01,792 --> 00:16:03,167 with Jay and got the data 417 00:16:03,292 --> 00:16:05,167 for the first part of the experiment... 418 00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:06,434 ERIK: Jay, I got to tell you, it has been fantastic 419 00:16:06,458 --> 00:16:08,333 hearing what you've got to share. 420 00:16:08,458 --> 00:16:09,726 TRAVIS: we finished up with him 421 00:16:09,750 --> 00:16:10,809 and had him leave the ranch. 422 00:16:10,833 --> 00:16:13,375 Then we reset the equipment 423 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:15,820 because we planned to duplicate the experiment the next day 424 00:16:15,917 --> 00:16:17,292 to collect a new data set. 425 00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:19,333 JAY: The investigation continues. 426 00:16:26,042 --> 00:16:29,417 TRAVIS: Jay is completely off the ranch now. 427 00:16:29,542 --> 00:16:30,893 Everything's there, just like when he was with us, 428 00:16:30,917 --> 00:16:32,333 - right? - Yeah. 429 00:16:32,417 --> 00:16:34,333 TRAVIS: Now that we've got the data 430 00:16:34,458 --> 00:16:36,184 from the first part of our ranch experiment with Jay... 431 00:16:36,208 --> 00:16:38,333 We'll see if we see any changes in the instruments. 432 00:16:38,417 --> 00:16:40,625 We'll drive the exact same route, 433 00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:42,350 with all the same equipment as yesterday. 434 00:16:42,375 --> 00:16:44,500 We'll then compare the data sets 435 00:16:44,625 --> 00:16:46,185 and look for any different measurements. 436 00:16:47,042 --> 00:16:48,792 KALEB: What's up, dude? 437 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:51,167 TRAVIS: While Erik, Thomas, and I 438 00:16:51,292 --> 00:16:52,893 conducted the second part of the Jay Stratton experiment, 439 00:16:52,917 --> 00:16:55,792 Dragon and Kaleb met with Don Mitchell. 440 00:16:55,917 --> 00:16:57,750 Dragon, Kaleb. 441 00:16:57,875 --> 00:17:01,458 TRAVIS: He's the local Uinta Basin Fire Management Officer and Chief 442 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:04,375 of the Wildlife Division for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. 443 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,833 We were hoping that Don might be able 444 00:17:06,958 --> 00:17:08,833 to tell us more about the burn marks 445 00:17:08,958 --> 00:17:11,125 on the fence post we found last week. 446 00:17:11,208 --> 00:17:14,250 You go ahead and take shotgun, Don. It's fine. 447 00:17:15,375 --> 00:17:17,000 TRAVIS: But since he is a senior member 448 00:17:17,125 --> 00:17:19,667 of the Eastern Shoshone tribe, we also wondered 449 00:17:19,833 --> 00:17:23,083 if he could offer any insight about the recent phenomena 450 00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:25,088 that we've been experiencing in the south field. 451 00:17:28,042 --> 00:17:31,208 Whoa, what was that purple light over there? 452 00:17:31,375 --> 00:17:32,809 KALEB: We were doing some experiments 453 00:17:32,833 --> 00:17:34,792 with rockets, and Thomas saw 454 00:17:34,875 --> 00:17:36,268 a purple light here in the south field. 455 00:17:36,292 --> 00:17:37,167 THOMAS: What is that? 456 00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:39,125 KALEB: That led us to 457 00:17:39,250 --> 00:17:40,601 placing game cameras in these locations, 458 00:17:40,625 --> 00:17:42,167 and as we were 459 00:17:42,292 --> 00:17:44,625 coming into this particular area 460 00:17:44,750 --> 00:17:47,000 to put a game camera up, we find a burnt post. 461 00:17:47,125 --> 00:17:48,500 THOMAS: What the heck would have 462 00:17:48,625 --> 00:17:50,125 burned this post? 463 00:17:50,208 --> 00:17:51,792 KALEB: And there just so happens 464 00:17:51,875 --> 00:17:52,917 to also be a deceased deer 465 00:17:53,042 --> 00:17:55,125 in this exact same area. 466 00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:57,792 That one's been torn apart by something. 467 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,268 We started looking around a little bit, 468 00:18:00,292 --> 00:18:01,167 and that's where we found this post. 469 00:18:01,292 --> 00:18:03,042 And you can see right there, 470 00:18:03,167 --> 00:18:05,018 - it's got that little curve in it. - DON: Okay. 471 00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:08,667 BRYANT: Is there anything in particular we should look for? 472 00:18:08,750 --> 00:18:10,393 DON: I would look for any other burnt debris 473 00:18:10,417 --> 00:18:12,833 that might have projected out. 474 00:18:12,958 --> 00:18:15,167 And, Kaleb, there was no other tracks? 475 00:18:15,292 --> 00:18:17,542 We didn't see any vehicle tracks, 476 00:18:17,667 --> 00:18:19,042 no human tracks, nothing. 477 00:18:22,458 --> 00:18:24,500 Kind of getting a-a feeling or a sense 478 00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:25,875 of, kind of, heaviness. 479 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,667 Protecting of 480 00:18:27,792 --> 00:18:31,000 an area is most crucial, 481 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:33,167 so let's hold here for just a sec. 482 00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:35,583 I'm just gonna do an offering 483 00:18:35,708 --> 00:18:38,500 of some tobacco 484 00:18:38,583 --> 00:18:41,875 and, uh, just ask the creator, please watch over us. 485 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,167 (speaking Shoshone) 486 00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:49,333 As a member of the Eastern Shoshone tribe, 487 00:18:49,417 --> 00:18:52,458 I do a cultural blessing 488 00:18:52,542 --> 00:18:54,750 and give an offering of tobacco. 489 00:18:55,875 --> 00:18:58,000 It's always best to give some type of offering, um, 490 00:18:58,167 --> 00:19:00,000 for protection and understanding 491 00:19:00,125 --> 00:19:02,458 before going in 492 00:19:02,583 --> 00:19:04,250 and onto the ground to investigate. 493 00:19:09,458 --> 00:19:12,167 Okay, Kaleb, Dragon, let's, uh... 494 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:14,125 Let's continue on here. 495 00:19:18,708 --> 00:19:21,083 What is strikingly odd 496 00:19:21,208 --> 00:19:25,167 is this line that goes up and around, 497 00:19:25,333 --> 00:19:28,292 and where is the rest of it? 498 00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:30,851 Our initial thought is lightning. 499 00:19:30,875 --> 00:19:33,750 But I'd assume, if we had 500 00:19:33,875 --> 00:19:35,375 a lightning strike here, 501 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:37,000 we'd see definitely more damage 502 00:19:37,167 --> 00:19:38,417 on the ground. 503 00:19:38,542 --> 00:19:39,893 DON: We would definitely see debris. 504 00:19:39,917 --> 00:19:43,958 As you can see, in the smoldering phase of this, 505 00:19:44,042 --> 00:19:46,208 that there's no blackening 506 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:50,500 that comes up around the post in any direction. 507 00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:52,333 Like, if we put a candle here, 508 00:19:52,458 --> 00:19:54,667 and it started to smolder right here, 509 00:19:54,792 --> 00:19:59,042 we would get that black smoke residue of that carbon 510 00:19:59,208 --> 00:20:00,542 on to the post. 511 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,347 BRYANT: So, if I'm understanding correctly, 512 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:03,833 based off of what you're saying, 513 00:20:03,958 --> 00:20:07,500 it seems as though it was something extremely hot 514 00:20:07,625 --> 00:20:09,583 that scorched it but it never 515 00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:11,308 - really incinerated, correct? - Correct. 516 00:20:12,542 --> 00:20:14,667 But I can tell you, this is not arson, 517 00:20:14,792 --> 00:20:16,208 this is not chemical, 518 00:20:16,333 --> 00:20:19,208 and this, in my opinion, is not lightning. 519 00:20:20,667 --> 00:20:22,458 BRYANT: So, what is it, then? 520 00:20:23,542 --> 00:20:26,208 That's the million-dollar question, Dragon. 521 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,750 KALEB: Have you seen anything like this before? 522 00:20:36,917 --> 00:20:38,333 I have seen only 523 00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:41,375 man-made of something 524 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,250 of this nature, 'cause of the line, 525 00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:44,917 through plasma cutting. 526 00:20:46,208 --> 00:20:47,333 It's hard to speculate, 527 00:20:47,458 --> 00:20:49,750 but from the different areas of 528 00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:53,000 spontaneous combustion that I've dealt with in my career, 529 00:20:53,167 --> 00:20:56,083 and in fire investigations, 530 00:20:56,208 --> 00:20:58,500 it was some type of extreme heat. 531 00:21:00,167 --> 00:21:02,708 A third of that post is missing. 532 00:21:02,875 --> 00:21:04,542 It is very bizarre. 533 00:21:06,292 --> 00:21:07,833 When you kind of look at this, 534 00:21:07,917 --> 00:21:10,083 you see that there's this curve in that post 535 00:21:10,208 --> 00:21:11,625 that's been taken out. 536 00:21:11,708 --> 00:21:14,000 As if something came through it 537 00:21:14,083 --> 00:21:16,708 and caused this damage, and, yeah, there's no debris. 538 00:21:16,833 --> 00:21:19,667 So, how hot would it have to be to just 539 00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:22,125 - totally vaporize... - Vaporize it. 540 00:21:22,208 --> 00:21:25,500 You're talking about 780 to 800 degrees. 541 00:21:25,583 --> 00:21:27,783 BRYANT: Right, if there's that kind of a heat signature, 542 00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:30,833 just the radiated heat would cause damage 543 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,375 to this green foliage, 544 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:33,833 and it looks like none of it 545 00:21:33,917 --> 00:21:35,351 has been exposed to any of the extreme heat. 546 00:21:35,375 --> 00:21:36,542 DON: Correct. 547 00:21:37,875 --> 00:21:39,315 So, we know this is hot as lightning, 548 00:21:39,375 --> 00:21:40,958 but it's not lightning. 549 00:21:41,042 --> 00:21:42,500 It's not man-made. 550 00:21:42,625 --> 00:21:44,184 - DON: Correct. - KALEB: So, what could do that? 551 00:21:44,208 --> 00:21:48,542 I'll only touch on it just-just briefly 552 00:21:48,667 --> 00:21:51,208 because this is definitely strange. 553 00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:52,708 Speaking culturally, 554 00:21:52,833 --> 00:21:55,042 it would go back to 555 00:21:55,167 --> 00:21:57,417 what the ranch is named after. 556 00:21:57,542 --> 00:21:59,708 - Okay. - Okay. 557 00:21:59,833 --> 00:22:01,958 I'm sorry, I don't feel comfortable... 558 00:22:02,083 --> 00:22:03,893 - KALEB: You're fine. - Speaking on that, on that portion. 559 00:22:03,917 --> 00:22:06,458 I don't want to breach anything that is... 560 00:22:06,583 --> 00:22:07,934 - That makes you uncomfortable. - But we will continue on. 561 00:22:07,958 --> 00:22:09,792 KALEB: I think it's really valuable 562 00:22:09,917 --> 00:22:11,875 and important that we have Native Americans 563 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,500 coming to the property 564 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:16,250 because there is a lot of history here 565 00:22:16,375 --> 00:22:17,792 and this is a different viewpoint 566 00:22:17,875 --> 00:22:19,250 that we really don't get a lot of. 567 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,000 It's just so strange. 568 00:22:21,167 --> 00:22:22,458 Yes. 569 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:23,917 KALEB: Some Native Americans 570 00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:26,458 aren't willing to speak of any kind of relation 571 00:22:26,542 --> 00:22:28,042 when it comes to Skinwalker Ranch 572 00:22:28,167 --> 00:22:30,792 or anything involving the word "skinwalker." 573 00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:32,167 Bringing attention to 574 00:22:32,292 --> 00:22:33,708 the skinwalker is very bad medicine, 575 00:22:33,833 --> 00:22:35,542 and it makes them very uncomfortable 576 00:22:35,708 --> 00:22:37,292 because they don't want to draw anything 577 00:22:37,375 --> 00:22:39,292 of that energy into their life. 578 00:22:39,417 --> 00:22:41,337 Don, I can't thank you enough for coming out here 579 00:22:41,375 --> 00:22:43,292 and lending your expertise, both from 580 00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:44,875 your professional side of things, 581 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,125 as well as your spiritual side of things, 582 00:22:47,208 --> 00:22:49,375 and offering a blessing of protection. 583 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:51,333 I felt good, and hopefully this will 584 00:22:51,417 --> 00:22:52,708 lend us to get more answers. 585 00:22:52,833 --> 00:22:54,958 Yes, you know, 'cause how do you answer 586 00:22:55,042 --> 00:22:56,708 the unanswerable? 587 00:22:56,833 --> 00:22:58,833 And all we can do is, as we peel back that veil 588 00:22:58,917 --> 00:23:01,000 and peel that onion a little bit 589 00:23:01,083 --> 00:23:02,500 and move forward. 590 00:23:02,625 --> 00:23:03,667 Thank you, Dragon. 591 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:05,458 - Thank you. - Thanks, Don. 592 00:23:14,250 --> 00:23:15,125 TRAVIS: Hey, Erik, 593 00:23:15,208 --> 00:23:16,500 you got Jay 594 00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,667 - on the horn yet? - Yeah, I have him. 595 00:23:18,792 --> 00:23:20,684 TRAVIS: The day after we completed the control run 596 00:23:20,708 --> 00:23:22,667 of our two-part experiment 597 00:23:22,750 --> 00:23:25,375 with Jay Stratton, Erik and I processed all the data 598 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:27,667 and immediately arranged a videoconference 599 00:23:27,792 --> 00:23:29,792 to share the incredible results. 600 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:32,500 Hey, Jay. How's it going? 601 00:23:32,542 --> 00:23:33,583 Hey, guys. How are you? 602 00:23:33,708 --> 00:23:34,917 TRAVIS: All right. 603 00:23:35,042 --> 00:23:36,458 So, in this experiment, 604 00:23:36,542 --> 00:23:39,333 what we did, Jay, is we put 605 00:23:39,458 --> 00:23:43,375 GPS sensors on the Jeep, 606 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:45,018 we had a magnetic field meter on there, 607 00:23:45,042 --> 00:23:47,125 and we also had 608 00:23:47,208 --> 00:23:48,792 a Geiger counter in there 609 00:23:48,917 --> 00:23:51,000 that we were data logging through the entire time 610 00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:54,500 you got in the Jeep and went on the tour. 611 00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:57,625 And we timed and logged every step of the way 612 00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,292 and everything you did 613 00:23:59,375 --> 00:24:01,667 from the time we left the command center. 614 00:24:01,792 --> 00:24:03,625 And then, after you left the ranch, 615 00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:06,667 we did a control run. 616 00:24:06,792 --> 00:24:09,875 And then, when we got back, Erik took the data, 617 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,000 compiled it all, and then overlaid the two data sets. 618 00:24:14,083 --> 00:24:16,292 And you would think, well, you know, 619 00:24:16,375 --> 00:24:17,875 what difference does that make? 620 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,917 Well, we were wondering if, since you were here 621 00:24:21,042 --> 00:24:22,750 back in the Bigelow era 622 00:24:22,875 --> 00:24:24,755 and you had seen some things when you were here, 623 00:24:24,792 --> 00:24:27,583 if maybe the ranch would respond 624 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,750 or you would stimulate a response or something. 625 00:24:29,875 --> 00:24:32,167 So that was the idea for the experiment. 626 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:34,333 I'm super excited to hear 627 00:24:34,458 --> 00:24:36,167 if there was a response, 628 00:24:36,292 --> 00:24:38,583 uh, so I think this is the perfect experiment 629 00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:40,628 to try and see if there's some type of connection 630 00:24:40,708 --> 00:24:42,500 that ranch or that area makes 631 00:24:42,667 --> 00:24:44,333 with individuals coming out there. 632 00:24:44,458 --> 00:24:45,792 TRAVIS: Well, uh, 633 00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:47,542 with that said, Erik, what do you think? 634 00:24:47,667 --> 00:24:49,000 Let's show him the data? 635 00:24:49,083 --> 00:24:50,643 Well, I think I should probably run through 636 00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:52,292 the summary at least. 637 00:24:52,375 --> 00:24:53,809 You know, we have different kinds of data, 638 00:24:53,833 --> 00:24:57,000 as Travis just took us through. 639 00:24:57,125 --> 00:25:01,333 So, to start with, I want to look at the GPS trackers. 640 00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:03,417 So, I think what I'd like to do 641 00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:04,917 is a screen share... 642 00:25:05,042 --> 00:25:06,167 That'd be great. 643 00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:07,292 ERIK: and bring up 644 00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:10,708 the control tour that we did. 645 00:25:10,833 --> 00:25:13,417 TRAVIS: Are you seeing all that, Jay? 646 00:25:13,542 --> 00:25:16,500 I see at least the, uh, the initial. 647 00:25:16,625 --> 00:25:18,333 Perfect. So, of course, this follows 648 00:25:18,458 --> 00:25:21,083 all of the roads that we took. 649 00:25:21,208 --> 00:25:23,667 And if you look at that, it pretty much looks like 650 00:25:23,792 --> 00:25:25,292 exactly what we did. 651 00:25:25,375 --> 00:25:27,375 This was without you here on the ranch. 652 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:28,980 You were... You had already gone home. 653 00:25:29,042 --> 00:25:30,708 This is what we expected to see, so... 654 00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:34,250 Absolutely, that looks complete... 655 00:25:34,375 --> 00:25:36,000 completely normal to me. 656 00:25:36,167 --> 00:25:38,417 Okay. Now, I'm going to bring up the data 657 00:25:38,542 --> 00:25:40,500 generated during your visit. 658 00:25:40,667 --> 00:25:43,208 I've colored it red, of course. 659 00:25:45,167 --> 00:25:47,000 At first glance it, you know, conforms 660 00:25:47,125 --> 00:25:49,167 to the same path. 661 00:25:50,250 --> 00:25:52,708 TRAVIS: Do you notice anything about the data yet? 662 00:25:52,833 --> 00:25:56,500 Well, it's-it's sparse, there's a heck of a lot 663 00:25:56,583 --> 00:25:58,625 of missing data points. 664 00:25:58,750 --> 00:26:00,018 ERIK: That does seem to be the case, 665 00:26:00,042 --> 00:26:00,833 doesn't it? 666 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 And at this spot right here, 667 00:26:03,125 --> 00:26:04,833 that's the drill site. 668 00:26:04,958 --> 00:26:06,542 JAY: We should be seeing a lot more 669 00:26:06,667 --> 00:26:09,042 - than we're seeing. - TRAVIS: Yeah, you should be. 670 00:26:09,167 --> 00:26:10,292 ERIK: Yeah, so, um, 671 00:26:10,375 --> 00:26:11,750 I don't know how to, uh, 672 00:26:11,875 --> 00:26:13,515 how to break it to you except to show you. 673 00:26:16,458 --> 00:26:18,667 TRAVIS: But now look where the data actually is. 674 00:26:20,625 --> 00:26:23,333 The data went way underground. 675 00:26:23,417 --> 00:26:24,708 Wow. 676 00:26:26,417 --> 00:26:27,583 Well, that's amazing. 677 00:26:33,792 --> 00:26:35,167 TRAVIS: Literally the only thing 678 00:26:35,292 --> 00:26:38,167 we changed in the experiment 679 00:26:38,292 --> 00:26:41,000 was the occupants of the car. 680 00:26:41,125 --> 00:26:42,625 And the data 681 00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:44,875 goes nuts. It went way underground. 682 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,458 Wow. 683 00:26:46,542 --> 00:26:48,042 TRAVIS: And if you look, 684 00:26:48,167 --> 00:26:49,708 this spot right here, 685 00:26:49,833 --> 00:26:52,375 that's the drill site. 686 00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:53,980 And then, when you go to the next dip, 687 00:26:54,042 --> 00:26:57,333 that's where you stopped and said this is the tree 688 00:26:57,458 --> 00:26:58,833 that you saw the thing 689 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,667 standing up at Homestead Two, 690 00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:02,542 and look how the data goes 691 00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:05,000 way deep underground there. 692 00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:07,333 How far is that, Erik? 693 00:27:07,458 --> 00:27:08,458 ERIK: You know, 694 00:27:08,583 --> 00:27:09,958 if we use the mesa 695 00:27:10,083 --> 00:27:11,643 as our scale reference, we're looking at 696 00:27:11,708 --> 00:27:13,388 something, like, you know, a thousand feet. 697 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:15,917 This is amazing. 698 00:27:16,042 --> 00:27:17,625 TRAVIS: The GPS data 699 00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:19,148 from our experiment with Jay Stratton 700 00:27:19,208 --> 00:27:20,667 is just plain crazy. 701 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:22,250 It shows that Jay 702 00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:23,667 went underground 703 00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:25,667 just after passing the mesa drill site. 704 00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:29,375 Then, once he moved closer to Homestead Two, 705 00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,833 it says he went over a thousand feet below the surface. 706 00:27:33,875 --> 00:27:36,333 And what's really interesting 707 00:27:36,458 --> 00:27:38,458 is the control is completely different. 708 00:27:38,583 --> 00:27:40,792 - Can you overlay 'em? - I sure can. 709 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,417 TRAVIS: So, if you overlay 'em now and look, 710 00:27:45,542 --> 00:27:48,042 when you go underneath the ground, 711 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:50,333 none of the control data is under the ground, 712 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:53,333 but look at your path. 713 00:27:53,417 --> 00:27:54,667 JAY: We're seeing something 714 00:27:54,792 --> 00:27:56,417 in that area affecting the equipment, 715 00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:58,250 reacting to my presence being there. 716 00:27:58,375 --> 00:28:00,958 That's amazing. 717 00:28:01,083 --> 00:28:03,000 What could just you being in the car 718 00:28:03,167 --> 00:28:07,167 do to a GPS sensor to make it go haywire? 719 00:28:07,292 --> 00:28:09,500 I mean, when I was first introduced to the ranch, 720 00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:10,863 folks were referring to the ranch 721 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,333 as if it's a person, uh, reacting. 722 00:28:15,875 --> 00:28:17,958 Obviously, I was highly skeptical of any of that. 723 00:28:18,083 --> 00:28:20,000 Yet it's been in my life so long 724 00:28:20,125 --> 00:28:21,833 that I'm comfortable referring to the ranch 725 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 as a... as a person now 726 00:28:24,083 --> 00:28:25,583 because I have certainly seen it 727 00:28:25,708 --> 00:28:27,583 react differently to different people. 728 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:28,833 TRAVIS: So, the question is, 729 00:28:28,917 --> 00:28:30,833 does the ranch somehow, uh, 730 00:28:30,917 --> 00:28:32,500 know you were here? 731 00:28:32,583 --> 00:28:34,917 Was it coupled, entangled with you? 732 00:28:35,042 --> 00:28:36,042 Right. 733 00:28:37,208 --> 00:28:39,000 TRAVIS: This data strongly suggests 734 00:28:39,083 --> 00:28:41,708 that the ranch really does react to individuals. 735 00:28:41,875 --> 00:28:43,458 But why some more than others? 736 00:28:43,583 --> 00:28:46,917 And why did the GPS sensors suddenly go underground 737 00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:49,333 just after Jay passed the mesa drill site? 738 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,083 Could the dome-shaped object that we drilled up against 739 00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:55,083 deep inside the mesa somehow be connected 740 00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:56,542 to the GPS data 741 00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:58,625 going a thousand feet below the surface? 742 00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:00,625 At this point we don't know, 743 00:29:00,708 --> 00:29:03,333 but it seems like more than just a coincidence. 744 00:29:03,417 --> 00:29:05,750 Jay, this is great. 745 00:29:05,875 --> 00:29:06,934 Uh, really appreciate you being in our experiment. 746 00:29:06,958 --> 00:29:08,417 Oh, definitely. 747 00:29:08,542 --> 00:29:09,542 ERIK: See you later, Jay. 748 00:29:09,583 --> 00:29:10,833 JAY: Thanks, gents. 749 00:29:19,333 --> 00:29:23,583 TRAVIS: Well, the big question still remains. 750 00:29:23,708 --> 00:29:26,375 How do we get inside the mesa? 751 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,583 AARON: It's almost like we're hitting something 752 00:29:28,708 --> 00:29:30,417 really, really hard. 753 00:29:30,542 --> 00:29:31,822 TRAVIS: The last time we drilled 754 00:29:31,875 --> 00:29:33,667 from the bottom of the mesa, 755 00:29:33,792 --> 00:29:35,232 we weren't able to reach the vertical 756 00:29:35,292 --> 00:29:37,875 and potentially metallic object inside there. 757 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,250 So now we're gonna brainstorm a new approach that might work. 758 00:29:41,375 --> 00:29:44,167 We're gonna have to drill from the top of the mesa. 759 00:29:44,292 --> 00:29:47,083 The one thing we definitely know is that it won't be easy. 760 00:29:47,208 --> 00:29:50,000 Well, I sure am curious about whatever it is that we hit 761 00:29:50,125 --> 00:29:52,375 that, number one, was so hard, number two, didn't produce 762 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,167 any friction against that-that, uh, drill head, 763 00:29:55,250 --> 00:29:58,833 and, number three, caused the change in the RF spectrum. 764 00:29:58,958 --> 00:30:00,458 TRAVIS: That to me is 765 00:30:00,583 --> 00:30:01,667 three pieces of data 766 00:30:01,792 --> 00:30:03,333 that are really 767 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,500 phenomenal. I mean, why did it 768 00:30:05,625 --> 00:30:07,667 not grind that drill bit down? 769 00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:09,018 - KALEB: Yes. - TRAVIS: That-that is amazing. 770 00:30:09,042 --> 00:30:11,375 What kind of material can do that? 771 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,833 So, how could we look inside the mesa? 772 00:30:14,958 --> 00:30:16,833 THOMAS: I haven't found 773 00:30:16,958 --> 00:30:19,208 a place that we could easily do that 774 00:30:19,375 --> 00:30:22,833 without completely scarring it permanently. 775 00:30:22,958 --> 00:30:25,083 You know, Brandon made it clear he doesn't want that. 776 00:30:25,208 --> 00:30:26,625 Personally, I don't want to do that. 777 00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:28,208 So I've got 778 00:30:28,375 --> 00:30:30,167 a possible solution. 779 00:30:30,292 --> 00:30:32,333 I wonder if we brought a portable drill in 780 00:30:32,417 --> 00:30:34,292 and tried to do just a vertical shaft down 781 00:30:34,417 --> 00:30:36,958 and tried to go down on top of it, to where we could get 782 00:30:37,083 --> 00:30:39,203 - a camera down there. - Yeah, and we could then maybe 783 00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:41,833 find if that hole is connected to something somewhere. 784 00:30:41,917 --> 00:30:43,792 ERIK: So, if we get directly above 785 00:30:43,917 --> 00:30:46,292 the place where the drill head got stopped, 786 00:30:46,375 --> 00:30:47,792 I'd like to know exactly 787 00:30:47,917 --> 00:30:49,833 what did it encounter right there, 788 00:30:49,958 --> 00:30:52,083 'cause we know we've got something really hard there. 789 00:30:52,208 --> 00:30:55,292 I like your idea, Erik, of going where the drill head stopped, 790 00:30:55,375 --> 00:30:57,250 'cause we know exactly 791 00:30:57,375 --> 00:30:58,250 where that bit was at. 792 00:30:58,375 --> 00:31:00,083 Oh, that's a great idea. 793 00:31:00,208 --> 00:31:02,489 We need to do... Let's-let's do that, that's a great idea. 794 00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:05,000 ERIK: Well, I say we get back 795 00:31:05,125 --> 00:31:06,726 to the command center and start planning how 796 00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:08,270 - we're going to pull this off. - Yeah. 797 00:31:08,375 --> 00:31:10,500 KALEB: I'm going to go check the game cameras. 798 00:31:10,583 --> 00:31:12,042 ERIK: Sounds like a plan. 799 00:31:20,625 --> 00:31:23,042 BRYANT: After the recent incident that had Thomas 800 00:31:23,167 --> 00:31:25,792 chasing off after some purple light in the south field, 801 00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:28,833 we've deployed these various game cameras. 802 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,040 I've asked Kaleb to go out 803 00:31:30,083 --> 00:31:31,500 and grab the cards from 'em 804 00:31:31,625 --> 00:31:34,500 to see if there's anything that we see there 805 00:31:34,583 --> 00:31:36,208 that is strange or stands out. 806 00:31:39,083 --> 00:31:41,083 - Hey, Bryant. - Hey, man. 807 00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:42,708 I got those cards from those cameras. 808 00:31:42,875 --> 00:31:44,083 Yep. Okay, cool. 809 00:31:44,208 --> 00:31:45,528 - Let's check it out. - All right. 810 00:31:46,292 --> 00:31:48,542 This is us setting it up, looks like. 811 00:31:48,708 --> 00:31:49,708 How long have these 812 00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:51,500 - been out there? - About a week. 813 00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:53,083 - Okay. - About a week now. 814 00:31:53,208 --> 00:31:55,667 KALEB: This is on the east facing west. 815 00:31:55,792 --> 00:31:57,042 BRYANT: Okay. 816 00:31:58,208 --> 00:31:59,875 KALEB: I'm not seeing anything 817 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,917 - jumping out at me right now. - No. 818 00:32:04,417 --> 00:32:06,809 BRYANT: I'm surprised we haven't seen any game of any kind yet. 819 00:32:06,833 --> 00:32:09,500 That's what I'm wondering. What's setting off the cameras? 820 00:32:09,583 --> 00:32:10,583 Right. 821 00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:15,917 Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 822 00:32:16,042 --> 00:32:17,250 - Back that up. - You see that? 823 00:32:17,375 --> 00:32:19,083 Yeah, back that up. What, what was that? 824 00:32:19,208 --> 00:32:20,917 KALEB: I'm just running through it 825 00:32:21,042 --> 00:32:23,083 frame by frame. 826 00:32:27,708 --> 00:32:29,333 What? 827 00:32:30,375 --> 00:32:32,083 KALEB: It's like a silver orb. 828 00:32:44,792 --> 00:32:46,375 Looked like a silver orb or something. 829 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:48,917 Well, it was something. It was really quick. 830 00:32:49,042 --> 00:32:50,101 Do we have the possibility to, like, pause it 831 00:32:50,125 --> 00:32:51,000 and then like scrub through it? 832 00:32:51,083 --> 00:32:52,708 KALEB: Yeah. 833 00:32:54,458 --> 00:32:56,708 So this... 834 00:32:56,833 --> 00:33:00,792 this is gonna be frame by frame here. 835 00:33:00,875 --> 00:33:04,250 Didn't you see it? It was like some little quick flash there. 836 00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:06,583 - I saw it over in this area there. Yeah. - Yeah. 837 00:33:10,542 --> 00:33:12,500 BRYANT: Whoa, right there. Look at that. 838 00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:17,542 KALEB: So, depending on how far away that is... 839 00:33:17,667 --> 00:33:19,833 Yeah. I mean, if it's back at the tree line, 840 00:33:19,958 --> 00:33:21,333 that thing's pretty big. 841 00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:23,667 It's massive if it's at the tree line. 842 00:33:24,875 --> 00:33:26,226 BRYANT: And it's gone. It's like one frame? 843 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:27,333 KALEB: One frame. 844 00:33:27,417 --> 00:33:29,000 What? 845 00:33:31,833 --> 00:33:34,167 And this is like broad daylight. 846 00:33:34,292 --> 00:33:35,500 Yeah. 847 00:33:36,625 --> 00:33:38,708 As you can imagine, these cameras picked up 848 00:33:38,833 --> 00:33:40,958 all sorts of normal things, 849 00:33:41,042 --> 00:33:43,042 but there was a couple frames on one of them 850 00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:44,875 that was really strange, 851 00:33:45,042 --> 00:33:46,500 and at first glance it appeared 852 00:33:46,583 --> 00:33:48,458 to be a silver orb-type 853 00:33:48,583 --> 00:33:51,375 shaped object off in the distance. 854 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:53,167 I don't know whether it's exotic or not, 855 00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:55,375 but it's still a concern. 856 00:33:56,458 --> 00:33:58,542 Well, the, the hard thing is to try and determine 857 00:33:58,667 --> 00:34:00,000 the size of that thing. 858 00:34:00,083 --> 00:34:03,333 - Yeah. - I mean, whatever it is, it's moving fast. 859 00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:05,458 And from here it looks like it's coming straight in. 860 00:34:05,583 --> 00:34:06,583 Right, if I... 861 00:34:06,708 --> 00:34:08,000 Okay, can I... 862 00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:09,765 - So, if I pause it like this... - Mm-hmm. 863 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:12,625 It makes me think it's big. 864 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:14,510 What I'd like to do is get Erik's eyes on it. 865 00:34:14,625 --> 00:34:16,917 You know, he's got that video software 866 00:34:17,042 --> 00:34:18,583 where he can analyze everything 867 00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:20,167 and track everything. 868 00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:21,726 So we probably need to get his eyes on this. 869 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:23,708 Yeah. 870 00:34:23,875 --> 00:34:26,035 Hey, Erik, this is Bryant and Kaleb at the guard shack. 871 00:34:26,125 --> 00:34:27,333 Do you copy? 872 00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:32,542 So, Kaleb brought me the memory cards 873 00:34:32,708 --> 00:34:35,583 from those trail cameras that we have out on the property. 874 00:34:35,708 --> 00:34:38,458 But there's one thing that we'd like you to get your eyes on. 875 00:34:41,167 --> 00:34:43,083 All right. Thanks, Erik. 876 00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:44,833 - BRYANT: Okay? - KALEB: Okay, let's go. 877 00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:48,292 See if we can get better eyes on 'em. 878 00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:49,875 BRYANT: If this is some sort of orb, 879 00:34:50,042 --> 00:34:52,208 that's interesting. 880 00:34:52,375 --> 00:34:54,667 I think this is definitely something that Travis and Erik 881 00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:57,500 need to take a look at and analyze further. 882 00:34:57,583 --> 00:34:58,958 If it's not 883 00:34:59,042 --> 00:35:00,417 and it's a security risk 884 00:35:00,542 --> 00:35:02,059 with someone trying to damage our assets, 885 00:35:02,083 --> 00:35:03,750 that falls on my plate. 886 00:35:05,375 --> 00:35:08,292 So it's important for us to get eyes on this immediately. 887 00:35:12,708 --> 00:35:14,083 Hey. 888 00:35:14,208 --> 00:35:16,250 - KALEB: Hey, guys. - What's going on, fellas? 889 00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:18,015 BRYANT: Hey. Did you get that file I sent? 890 00:35:18,125 --> 00:35:20,167 - Yeah, I just got that. Um... - Okay. 891 00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:22,500 ERIK: Curious to see what it is. 892 00:35:22,583 --> 00:35:24,518 - It's going to be over here on this monitor. - TRAVIS: Was it a file? 893 00:35:24,542 --> 00:35:26,851 - What'd y'all send? - Yeah, so just to-to preface what's going on, 894 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,875 um, you know we have those trail cam or game cameras 895 00:35:30,042 --> 00:35:31,792 in some of the parts of the property. 896 00:35:31,875 --> 00:35:33,333 Mm-hmm. 897 00:35:33,417 --> 00:35:35,333 We got three just down there on the south end. 898 00:35:35,417 --> 00:35:37,042 On the south side. Yeah, yeah, okay. 899 00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:38,083 KALEB: We go and put these cameras out there 900 00:35:38,208 --> 00:35:41,042 pretty soon after Thomas 901 00:35:41,167 --> 00:35:42,833 - saw that purple light. - TRAVIS: Yeah. 902 00:35:42,917 --> 00:35:43,917 You know, within a day. 903 00:35:44,042 --> 00:35:45,042 So I just went down there 904 00:35:45,125 --> 00:35:46,833 and grabbed those three cards, 905 00:35:46,917 --> 00:35:48,208 swapped... put new ones in, 906 00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:50,208 and we just were looking at the footage, 907 00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:51,851 and we just found something that we thought 908 00:35:51,875 --> 00:35:53,115 you guys might want to look at. 909 00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:55,000 - TRAVIS: Really? - Yeah. 910 00:35:55,125 --> 00:35:56,667 Okay, so, guys, will you remind me 911 00:35:56,792 --> 00:35:59,167 how deep into the interior of the property this camera... 912 00:35:59,292 --> 00:36:01,208 So, this camera 913 00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:03,292 is really inside the property. 914 00:36:03,417 --> 00:36:04,750 It's not on the fence line. 915 00:36:04,875 --> 00:36:07,417 So, for someone to find this, they have to be 916 00:36:07,542 --> 00:36:09,833 - on the property extensively. - ERIK: Okay. 917 00:36:09,917 --> 00:36:11,684 KALEB: But on the other side of that is the camera 918 00:36:11,708 --> 00:36:13,292 that's on the other side of the field 919 00:36:13,417 --> 00:36:15,875 looking at this camera, it didn't catch anything. 920 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,833 -Oh. -Really? 921 00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:19,750 - KALEB: Yeah. - ERIK: Okay. 922 00:36:19,875 --> 00:36:22,000 Uh, well, you ready to take a look at it? 923 00:36:22,125 --> 00:36:23,167 Yeah, sure. 924 00:36:23,292 --> 00:36:24,708 All right, here we go. 925 00:36:28,875 --> 00:36:30,726 - BRYANT: Go back. Right there. - TRAVIS: Yo. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 926 00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:32,125 BRYANT: Right there. 927 00:36:32,208 --> 00:36:34,917 TRAVIS: Holy cow. 928 00:36:36,042 --> 00:36:37,208 ERIK: Well, it looks like 929 00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,250 at least part of this thing is spherical. 930 00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:41,250 Mm-hmm. Right. 931 00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:42,684 THOMAS: Is this a one-frame event? 932 00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:44,667 BRYANT: It is. 933 00:36:44,833 --> 00:36:46,875 It's literally one frame. 934 00:36:48,042 --> 00:36:49,125 That's crazy. 935 00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:50,351 BRYANT: So if it's something, 936 00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:52,500 like, really exotic, like, 937 00:36:52,625 --> 00:36:55,125 middle of the day, an orb like that showing up, 938 00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:56,750 a sphere showing up, that's crazy. 939 00:37:01,958 --> 00:37:03,833 BRYANT: At first glance, what... 940 00:37:03,958 --> 00:37:06,250 I mean, what are your thoughts? 941 00:37:06,375 --> 00:37:08,208 Well, uh, the fact that the shape 942 00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:10,417 of the dark spot is different 943 00:37:10,542 --> 00:37:13,167 and it seems to have expanded relative to the rest of it 944 00:37:13,292 --> 00:37:16,667 is kind of consistent with reflections 945 00:37:16,792 --> 00:37:19,333 because it's in a different place. 946 00:37:19,417 --> 00:37:20,697 Which suggests that it's metallic 947 00:37:20,792 --> 00:37:22,375 or at least reflective of some sort. 948 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:23,958 ERIK: Mm-hmm. It does suggest that. 949 00:37:25,833 --> 00:37:27,476 Travis, the first time I was looking at this, 950 00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,125 it makes me think of the model that you made 951 00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:31,518 of what we were potentially seeing 952 00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:33,417 with the-the other orbs during the night. 953 00:37:33,542 --> 00:37:35,917 Yeah, the orange orb that we saw with the drones. 954 00:37:36,042 --> 00:37:38,375 There is a similarity. 955 00:37:46,875 --> 00:37:48,851 TRAVIS: One of the things that sticks out to me about this, 956 00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:50,893 Kaleb, you're right, is this dark spot in the front of it. 957 00:37:50,917 --> 00:37:54,833 That orb, that-that orange orb that we saw that night 958 00:37:54,917 --> 00:37:56,083 clearly had a dark spot 959 00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:57,292 in the middle. 960 00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:59,417 This new metallic-looking UAP 961 00:37:59,542 --> 00:38:01,208 that was spotted in the south field 962 00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:03,375 does resemble a model I made 963 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:05,500 of an orange orb that appeared 964 00:38:05,625 --> 00:38:07,305 during an experiment with a swarm of drones 965 00:38:07,375 --> 00:38:08,667 a few weeks ago. 966 00:38:09,917 --> 00:38:12,167 All right, we have drones armed, guys. 967 00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:13,917 Look at that. 968 00:38:15,417 --> 00:38:17,167 KALEB: We got something right there. 969 00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:19,000 Right where, right where? 970 00:38:19,125 --> 00:38:21,042 Yeah, it is. That's it right there. 971 00:38:21,208 --> 00:38:24,500 It clearly looks like it's two halves, 972 00:38:24,667 --> 00:38:25,500 and looking at it, it looks like it actually 973 00:38:25,667 --> 00:38:27,333 has an indention, doesn't it? 974 00:38:27,458 --> 00:38:29,208 There's some dark spot to it. 975 00:38:29,333 --> 00:38:31,917 From modeling that, I put this together. 976 00:38:33,167 --> 00:38:36,500 And, uh, this is kind of my idea of what it looks like. 977 00:38:36,625 --> 00:38:38,833 Why don't I bring that up for comparison? 978 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,583 TRAVIS: If you kind of compare that to that, 979 00:38:42,708 --> 00:38:44,417 - there is a similarity. - KALEB: Yeah. 980 00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:48,458 THOMAS: We definitely need to get to the bottom of this 981 00:38:48,542 --> 00:38:52,708 because that is the direction that that burnt post is at. 982 00:38:52,833 --> 00:38:54,583 Is something like that going to generate 983 00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:56,333 the type of heat to do that? 984 00:38:56,417 --> 00:38:57,667 THOMAS: Maybe? 985 00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:59,184 BRYANT: And who's to say what this thing 986 00:38:59,208 --> 00:39:00,833 looks like at night. 987 00:39:00,958 --> 00:39:02,351 THOMAS: I mean, the interesting thing about 988 00:39:02,375 --> 00:39:04,125 that burnt fence post is, we found it 989 00:39:04,208 --> 00:39:06,833 after we saw that bright purple flash 990 00:39:06,958 --> 00:39:09,083 - down there in the southern part. - Yup. 991 00:39:09,208 --> 00:39:10,833 Yeah. 992 00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:13,601 TRAVIS: We might have caught something here in the middle of the day. 993 00:39:13,625 --> 00:39:15,292 BRYANT: Right, which is amazing. 994 00:39:15,417 --> 00:39:17,917 What I find fascinating about this orb 995 00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:20,708 is, it's there one second and it's gone so quickly. 996 00:39:20,875 --> 00:39:22,667 It must be moving at a high rate of speed, 997 00:39:22,833 --> 00:39:24,958 and it just so happens it's in the same area 998 00:39:25,083 --> 00:39:26,163 where we found this strange 999 00:39:26,208 --> 00:39:28,167 burnt post and a dead deer. 1000 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:29,917 Are they related somehow? I don't know, 1001 00:39:30,042 --> 00:39:31,542 but it's really strange. 1002 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:33,708 I think if this shows us anything, it's that, 1003 00:39:33,833 --> 00:39:36,333 look, we've had quite a few different incidents 1004 00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:38,083 happen down on that part of the property 1005 00:39:38,208 --> 00:39:39,542 in a very short period of time. 1006 00:39:39,708 --> 00:39:41,500 I think, if anything, that shows us 1007 00:39:41,625 --> 00:39:43,333 that we need to deploy 1008 00:39:43,458 --> 00:39:45,833 some more assets down there 1009 00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:47,837 and, uh, instrument that side of the property out 1010 00:39:47,917 --> 00:39:49,000 a little bit better. 1011 00:39:49,167 --> 00:39:50,750 KALEB: And I'll go poke around 1012 00:39:50,875 --> 00:39:53,167 out there some more and see if I can't find anything. 1013 00:39:53,292 --> 00:39:54,809 Yeah, we just need to up the amount of time 1014 00:39:54,833 --> 00:39:56,542 we spend there, at least in the short term. 1015 00:39:56,667 --> 00:39:58,667 Given that, I mean, if this truly is 1016 00:39:58,833 --> 00:40:00,333 happening in broad daylight... 1017 00:40:00,458 --> 00:40:01,809 - Mm-hmm. - I mean, that's something, 1018 00:40:01,833 --> 00:40:04,542 definitely, we need to get more eyes on. 1019 00:40:04,708 --> 00:40:05,726 And, you know, if it takes it, 1020 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:07,292 we could even just keep a vigil. 1021 00:40:07,375 --> 00:40:09,083 Physically go down there and just watch. 1022 00:40:10,667 --> 00:40:13,667 TRAVIS: Yeah, keep an eye on that south field. 1023 00:40:13,833 --> 00:40:15,417 BRYANT: I agree. I'm for it. 1024 00:40:15,542 --> 00:40:17,833 - Well, thanks, guys. - TRAVIS: Thank you, guys. 1025 00:40:17,958 --> 00:40:19,333 - Okay, thanks, guys. - All right. 1026 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:20,434 Well, I'm gonna leave you with it, Erik. 1027 00:40:20,458 --> 00:40:22,625 THOMAS: Interesting find. 1028 00:40:24,792 --> 00:40:27,167 ERIK: We're dealing with things on a scale 1029 00:40:27,333 --> 00:40:30,000 of 512 acres of ranch here. 1030 00:40:30,167 --> 00:40:33,000 We have a few known hot spots, 1031 00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:34,500 but we have no idea 1032 00:40:34,625 --> 00:40:36,667 whether effects such as we've witnessed here 1033 00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:40,042 might play out in other regions of the property. 1034 00:40:40,167 --> 00:40:43,542 TRAVIS: Since I've started working on Skinwalker Ranch, 1035 00:40:43,708 --> 00:40:45,625 there has always been this idea 1036 00:40:45,708 --> 00:40:48,333 that it responds to certain individuals. 1037 00:40:48,417 --> 00:40:52,167 We still don't know why, who or how. 1038 00:40:52,292 --> 00:40:54,208 As we continue this investigation, 1039 00:40:54,375 --> 00:40:57,667 hopefully we'll learn more about these strange mysteries. 1040 00:40:57,833 --> 00:40:59,500 BRANDON: Never before 1041 00:40:59,583 --> 00:41:01,667 have we seen scientific equipment 1042 00:41:01,792 --> 00:41:05,000 and personnel dedicated to finding the answers. 1043 00:41:06,167 --> 00:41:09,833 There isn't another private piece of property 1044 00:41:09,958 --> 00:41:14,750 that has this degree of scientific research. 1045 00:41:15,792 --> 00:41:18,167 We don't know what lies in store. 1046 00:41:18,333 --> 00:41:19,875 We're in uncharted territory. 1047 00:41:21,333 --> 00:41:24,833 But I am more willing than ever 1048 00:41:24,958 --> 00:41:29,042 to take the risk, to explore the unknown, 1049 00:41:29,167 --> 00:41:33,208 to discover the secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 1050 00:41:35,250 --> 00:41:37,542 Erik was telling us that you got some new equipment 1051 00:41:37,667 --> 00:41:41,208 that can help us identify something underneath the ground. 1052 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:42,375 Multispectral. 1053 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,667 There's some interesting stuff. 1054 00:41:44,792 --> 00:41:45,667 I've been itching to show it to you. 1055 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:46,583 TRAVIS: By the bait pen, 1056 00:41:46,708 --> 00:41:48,583 there are three circles. 1057 00:41:48,708 --> 00:41:50,417 THOMAS: So I'll make some arrangements 1058 00:41:50,542 --> 00:41:52,375 and we'll get an excavator out here 1059 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:53,667 and we'll go out and dig. 1060 00:41:53,792 --> 00:41:55,292 Oh, whoa. Wait a minute... 1061 00:41:55,417 --> 00:41:57,333 Hey, guys, y'all come look at this. 1062 00:41:57,458 --> 00:41:58,583 It's hard for me to believe 1063 00:41:58,708 --> 00:42:00,625 that's Mother Nature. 1064 00:42:00,649 --> 00:42:02,649 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 80231

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