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- Hi, I'm Olga and this
is my boyfriend, Michael.
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We want to have a child
and Michael wants us to try
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to adopt, but my fears
from the past hold me back
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from moving on.
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[children laughing]
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["Happy Birthday To You"]
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- I want to have no kids.
- Why?
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- Because I'm afraid they're
going to turn out like me.
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- What don't you
like about yourself?
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- I'm bad.
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- I think so, one day.
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[guitar music]
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- I would love to have
some more small kids.
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I still can make
them but I don't want
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to go there right now.
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[guitar music]
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- I've known since
I was a teenager
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that I didn't want
to have children.
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[guitar music]
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- I want to have three or four.
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- I want to have uno, one.
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- I don't have children.
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I plan to hopefully eventually
one day have children.
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- Eventually someday
when I'm ready.
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[guitar and drum music]
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- Listen, what if they say we
don't have the right to adopt?
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Would this mean that I'm not
good enough to be parent?
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- Have the right?
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Well, of course
this is, you know,
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mother nature gave us the
right to have babies, right?
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- No, some of us
don't deserve it
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because we don't know
how to treat them.
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Some people use kids as
decoration, not for love.
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- A woman's right to
have or not have children
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or choose how many children
she has is, I think,
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inextricably wrapped up with
her right to her own body.
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- Everybody should have
a right, make a decision
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to have kids or not;
everybody should.
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It's America.
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We all have rights, right?
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- I think we definitely do
have the right to have kids.
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- Well, it appears that
even Sir Elton John doesn't.
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- In 2010 during one of
their visits to Ukraine,
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Sir Elton John and David Furnish
went to a specialized orphanage
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for children with HIV
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where they met an
abandoned boy named Lev,
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born to a drug-addicted
mother and a convicted rapist
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and murderer for a father.
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Elton John and David
fell in love with Lev
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from the moment they saw him.
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They were ready to adopt him
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and even his older
brother Artemis.
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All they wanted was to give a
good life to the small person
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who needed love and a home.
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But the Ukrainian government
didn't think it was a good idea
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despite everything Elton John
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and his foundation
has done for Ukraine.
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- I will do everything I
can to help the Ukraine
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with the AIDS epidemic.
I will give you my solemn--
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- They said Elton John does
not match certain criteria
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and therefore has no
right to become a parent.
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- But this is absolute madness.
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If they are not good
enough to be parents,
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are we good enough?
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Who is good enough then?
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[silence]
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[airplane landing]
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- We decided to go
back to Ukraine to find
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out how could Elton and David
be rejected and what kind
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of future lies in wait for
Ukrainian children like Lev?
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- Alexii Reznikov is an
attorney who was assigned
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to the adoption case of Sir
Elton John and David Furnish.
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[foreign language spoken]
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- I feel your pain
because I was going
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through the whole
process with you,
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but how did it feel
being rejected?
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- I mean when we came here
and I said that afternoon
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that I would love to adopt
him, I didn't know what a can
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of worms I was going to open.
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And it led to us abandoning
our hopes for adopting him
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because the last person who
was being thought about was Lev
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and his brother, Artemis.
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They were like pawns
in a political game,
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which involved us two
and the governments
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and the adoption laws in the
Ukraine, and the last people
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to be thought of were the
children and that was so bad.
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So now they are out
of the orphanage.
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We are very happy about
that, but we sat down
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two Christmases ago, and said,
"We have to give up our plans
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"to adopt these children
because it's going to take
at least two and a half years
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"to do this and at
the end of those two
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"and a half years
we have no guarantee
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"that we will be
able to adopt them."
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And so that's another two and
a half years that they have
to stay in the orphanage.
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- You know, every child needs
nurturing and when the
orphanages are full of children
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that aren't being
picked up and held
and being given attention
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and love all the time,
they don't develop as well.
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It's-- we've spoken with
psychologists about it.
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A child who had been in
an orphanage for more
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than three years ends up
being almost irreparably
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psychologically damaged
because they've never had this.
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They've never been held in
a regular basis and made
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to feel that, that bond that
you feel with your own child.
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And we've seen our little
son who's just brilliant
and so bright and happy
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and we're just showing him
all the love we possibly can
and he's responding to that.
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And you think of how well
Zachary responds to love
and affection and you think
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of all those children
who don't get that.
It breaks your heart.
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- It makes you angry.
- [Olga] Yeah, I know.
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- It makes you angry,
really angry that there are
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so many beautiful
children that--
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and people try and adopt
them and every step
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of the way is a barrier
and it's ridiculous.
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It's ludicrous and it's inhuman.
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- Don't you think it's a
little bit unfair if you want
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to adopt a child you have to
meet an entire set of criteria?
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And if you want to have
a biological child,
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you just have to have sex?
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- You're absolutely right.
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People who reach a stage
like we did in our lives
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where we thought we could adopt
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and be good parents,
the door was shut
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in our face straight away.
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And we could have given Lev
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and Artemis a great home,
no question about it.
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And I think it's wrong that
children are being stuck away
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in orphanages and parents who
genuinely want to have a child
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that can't have children
or would like to adopt
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in their own family find
the door shut in their face
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or every step they're
scrutinized beyond belief,
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as if the were aliens
from another planet.
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- Some adoption authorities
go in it from a position
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of what's wrong with you rather
than looking at what's right
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with a couple and seeing
what their strengths are.
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They look for problems.
They look for faults.
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They look for flaws and
the minute they find one,
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they strike you off the list.
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[walking]
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- So what happened to
Lev and his brother?
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From nowhere, their parents
showed up full of so called love
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for their children
they had abandoned
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and full of hate for Elton.
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But why? Well, someone gave
Lev's mother a load of money.
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Then a government
social worker forced her
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to visit the kids
in the orphanage.
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She was even put on
a number of TV shows,
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but she simply
couldn't handle it all
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and she died nine months
later from heavy drug abuse.
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As for the father, he
went back to prison.
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So Lev and his brother are now
fostered by their grandmother.
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And let's not forget
the kids were born
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to an HIV positive mother,
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so they might require an
extremely expensive treatment
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for the rest of their lives.
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After being rejected, Sir Elton
John and David Furnish had
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to give up their
dream to adopt Lev.
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So they had a son, Zachary,
from a surrogate mother.
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[wind and traffic]
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[slow music]
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So, what does this
government have to provide
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for its children instead?
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An even better future, hardly.
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This is Leonid Petrovich Krysov,
a government social worker
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who tries to help kids
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who can't even dream
of the opportunities
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that was taken away from
Lev and his brother.
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[foreign language spoken]
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[slow music]
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[foreign language spoken]
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- How do kids end up like this?
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The likelihood of a Ukrainian
child like Lev ending
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up on the streets
is relatively high.
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My friend [inaudible]
has a British degree
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in psychology might be
the right person to ask.
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- If you want to give
us just a few seconds
and then we can talk, alright?
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- Fantastic.
- Sometimes children just
opt to leave their houses.
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They just run away and stay in
the streets where it's cold,
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where it's dangerous
but they still think
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that streets are
better places for them.
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- It's a natural instinct
to survive basically,
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because when somebody is--
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I mean we are talking
about the abuse,
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but there is different
type of abuse.
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A child can be abused
physically or psychologically.
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And the child wants
to protect himself,
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to save himself, so they leave.
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They go away.
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They don't think what
expects them out there.
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They think out of here,
not what's out there.
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[scary music]
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- This is Sergey and Ivetta.
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These teenagers live in
an abandoned building
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without heating, running
water and toilets.
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And Ivetta just told
us she's pregnant.
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[foreign language spoken]
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[moving around]
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- This is Okya-Kolya.
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She has been living
on the streets
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for three years, a victim
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of daily abuse and
sexual abduction.
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Her only escape has
been sniffing glue
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and using other drugs to
survive on the streets
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and avoid being raped.
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She has a boy's name
and a boy's appearance.
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[foreign language spoken]
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- Usually these are
families that had problems
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on their own when
they were kids.
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They were abused
when they were kids.
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It really doesn't matter
whether you slap a child
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with a hand
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or whether you slap
a child with a word.
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So what I'm saying, it's a
story that repeats itself.
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- [Olga] They do
what they learn.
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- Yes. It's in their reflex.
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- Okay.
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- In fact, they cannot stop.
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It's something like an itch.
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- So why did the Ukrainian
government refuse Sir Elton John
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and his wife to adopt
a Ukrainian child?
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[foreign language spoken]
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- We're living proof that we
can be a very stable couple
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and have good values
and have friends
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of all sorts and sizes,
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all different religions,
all different colors,
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all different sexual preferences
and have a wonderful life.
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- I think provided you
know that someone is loving
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and compassionate and competent
and in a position to provide
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for a child 100 percent;
that can be two men,
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that can be two women,
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that can be an older
married couple,
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that can be a single parent.
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Lots of children come
from different families
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of different shapes and sizes.
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I think the important
thing is about love
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and commitment and dedication.
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- The Ukraine needs to
really enter the 21st century
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and give gay rights
to every gay person.
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What is this nonsense that's
spouted by politicians
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and religious leaders about
the hatred towards gay people.
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It's really disgraceful.
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It's disgusting and it's
about time it stopped.
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- So, what is the Ukrainian
government really fighting for?
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Don't these politicians
have any other
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more important
problems to focus on?
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Well, population of Ukraine
has dramatically decreased
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losing almost seven million
people in the last eight years.
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This is five times more
than the number of soldiers
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the United States has lost in
all wars combined since 1775.
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At the moment Ukraine has
the third highest death rate
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in the world and this is hardly
surprising considering the fact
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that the vast majority lives on
less than a few dollars per day.
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After rejecting Sir Elton
John, the government decided
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to block all healthy
kids at the age of five
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from leaving the country
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and would license
only disabled kids
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for international adoption.
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This government just
needs more people,
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cheap labor force and customers
for businesses, so they hand
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out welfare which can
be up to five times more
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than the person's income
for an entire year.
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Therefore, it's not surprising
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to see some families
delivering babies just
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to qualify for more cash.
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The more you deliver,
the more you are paid.
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On top of this, they
are planning a new law.
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If you are over 30 and
you don't have kids,
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you will have to pay more tax.
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It looks like they still
care only about numbers,
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not people.
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But is it that different in
the most developed countries
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like the United Kingdom
or the United States?
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[silence]
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- What's that?
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What's that?
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- A taxi.
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- A taxi.
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- This is David, Pam and Mailo,
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an American family who decided
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to adopt, and they got
there, but it wasn't easy.
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- The agencies that we went to
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spent a lot of time and energy
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and it's a very good old agency,
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about 100 years old I think.
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And so they had us watch
a video about orphanages
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and we went to an
informational session.
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When I saw the orphanages
it became a non-question,
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that I would have to adopt.
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- You sing.
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- [Voiceover] It's over.
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Can you do that?
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- It's over.
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- So, we went the Vietnam route,
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which was a really
arduous paperwork, heavy,
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it was incredible.
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I could tell the story, right?
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No?
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- Can we take a break?
- No.
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- For a second?
One second.
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- We went, we went
in the direction.
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- One second, hold on.
Let's take a break.
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There are a lot of stupid rules
and regulations that, okay,
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do you know what perfection is?
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- Sorry, perfection.
- Yeah.
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- The idea of perfection
is a legal term that,
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that you not only have to
get something notarized
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but you have to go to
the county clerk's office
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where they then perfect,
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they prove that the notary
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who notarized your document
was, in fact, legitimate.
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I went all over New York State,
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all over New York State
getting stamps by county clerks
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saying that the notary was okay.
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- Oh, he did it.
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- Did you get any kind of
education as a future parent?
- Yeah, absolutely.
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- We did a home study and
a home study that included...
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...classes and I would say talk
therapy, because it was--
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- A social worker was involved.
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- Yeah, it was a social
worker that was involved and--
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- I learned a lot though.
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In these, in these--
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In these informational seminars.
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It was certainly worth it.
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It's been helpful in
the parenting process
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to have more
information than less.
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[outdoor sounds]
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- I have Elizabeth, Noah,
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Hilary and Chase; so
we have four kids.
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Probably about six years ago,
we decided that we wanted
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to have a fifth child, but I was
not in a situation at the time
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and so we thought about
adopting from China.
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We went through the process.
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The process is very expensive.
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I think in the initial
six months we spent
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over 15 thousand dollars and
it probably would have been
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out 25 thousand dollars over
the process of actually going
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to China and picking up
the child and everything.
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And it took us about
three years and we came
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out empty-handed in the process.
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We finally withdrew
our application
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because of how long it was
and how expensive it was.
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[church bells ringing]
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- Francesca Polini
and her husband,
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a middle class British
family, couldn't adopt
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because of their skin color.
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Francesca became so enraged
in the system that she set
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out up a contra movement
to adopt a better way.
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- So you were told you
couldn't adopt in this country?
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- That's right.
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- Why?
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- Because we were white.
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- And you wanted to
adopt non-white children?
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- Well we wanted to adopt.
It was that simple.
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- After several years fighting
the adoption system she broke
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down the barriers and finally
adopted her two children.
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She even wrote a
book about it all.
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- In particular in the UK,
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where there's lots
more children going
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into care for whatever
reasons, neglect, abuse,
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abandonment, famine,
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whatever, actually a lot
more families going forwards
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because we try and
have kids too late.
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The concept of family
is a very diverse one.
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There's step parenting, IBF,
surrogate mothers whatever.
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Family is not as traditional
as it used to be.
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And so you would think
therefore that the route
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for adoption would be as
uncomplicated as possible
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to allow these children to find
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the families that they deserve.
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And instead, the system
is becoming everywhere
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in the world more
and more complicated.
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And that's absolutely insane
because we are letting
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down worldwide literally
millions of children.
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There's even the UN committee
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for the protection of the child,
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which stated that institutional
care is the worst possible
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option for an abandoned
or a neglected child.
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So even when abandonment and
neglect happen and things
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like adoption and
long-term fostering have
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to be considered a priority
over institutional care,
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and you know I know of
people who have been turned
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down because literally there
were occasional smokers,
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because they were
ethnically different
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but not the right ethnicity mix,
because they were overweight,
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because they thought that they
loved their cats too much.
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Absolutely absurd reasons, and
because of the system being
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so messy, they can social
workers under government
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and everybody else can
hide behind any reason,
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because there's no
actual fix structured way
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of monitoring how it works.
And so people are scared.
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If they have left the process
forever there's been no doubt
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such a traumatic experience
that it's emotionally
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too painful to go
through it again.
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And I don't mean to discourage
you, but for the majority
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of parents, prospective parents
coming forward and actually
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in the majority of cases,
in something like 90 percent
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of the cases particularly
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with international
adoption it doesn't happen.
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[children playing]
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[gloomy music]
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- Alex Bemrose also
struggled to adopt simply
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because she was white.
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- Because of the belief
amongst and the guidelines
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that local authorities have
long kept to they believe
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that children should
be brought up in a home
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of the same ethnicity
as themselves.
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And they actually said
the three biggest problems
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you're going to have
is you're white,
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you're middle class
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and you're a
heterosexual couple.
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So we looked at a number
of different countries
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and ended up going to Guatemala
and approaching them with a view
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to adopting a child
or sibling from there
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and eventually we were
able to adopt Jose.
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We brought him
home at 11 months,
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and yes very, very lucky.
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We were lucky.
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- Was it an expensive process?
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- It is a very
expensive process.
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If you adopt overseas
then you have to
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cover the costs not only
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for the UK process, which
you still have to go through,
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so you still have to go
through all the interviews,
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which is called the home study.
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And we had nine
three hour interviews
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with the social worker and
then after that you go to panel
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where there was I think 16,
14 or 16 panel judges sitting
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around a table and
they look at the report
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that the social
worker has drawn up
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and ask you various other
questions; terrifying process.
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And then they will finally sort
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of confirm whether you
are eligible or not,
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whether your past is
eligible to adopt a child.
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[silence]
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[dark music]
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- So am I to face
this system that works
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against parents
and against kids?
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- He would almost
certainly have ended
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up as a street
child in Guatemala.
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And when I look at
him now and I think
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that could have been his
future, to me that's just--
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oh, I mean I'd lie down
in front of a truck.
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- What if we find our child
and the system rejects us?
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We will have to leave
her behind forever?
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- I know in my heart I could
love no biological child
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any more than I love my son.
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- [Olga] Maybe I've been
looking for excuses,
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excuses to run away
instead of going for it.
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00:25:57,210 --> 00:25:58,418
- We pinch ourselves everyday.
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This little boy has
made our lives so happy.
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He's such a beautiful soul,
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and we are in heaven.
We literally are in heaven.
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- [Olga] I know now that
I must overcome my fears
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and move forward with adoption.
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So we tried to talk with a
number of adoption agencies,
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but the more they heard
about a camera they said no.
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- Finally, we were lucky enough
to find an adoption agency
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that wasn't afraid to
talk in front of a camera.
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At least, that's
what we thought.
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- Hi Samantha. Nice to--
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- We want to adopt a child.
- Okay.
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- Are there any certain you
know income level that we have
to have to adopt a child?
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- Absolutely not. I think
here at this agency we really,
because our fees are
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on a sliding fee scale, we
really don't want the cost
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of adoption to inhibit you
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from becoming the family
that you want to be.
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We have moved
forward with families
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who make 30,000 dollars a year.
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- Normally how long does
it take from the moment
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when you sit down and actually--
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- Um huh.
- You know talk about all--
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- You can bring home a child
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at six months and you
can also bring home a child
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in about a year
and a half or so.
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- Six months, sounds fake
to me, too good to be true.
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So we managed to get an
unexpected interview with one
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of the specialists
from the same agency.
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Maybe this time she wouldn't
have been instructed to paint
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such a pretty picture
and the truth is--
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- At minimum you'll
be waiting a year
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and at maximum you could be
waiting up to five years.
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The way that the decision
is made by either the agency
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or the country is based on the
assessment that families go
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through during the
home study process.
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- You know based on your
experience how many applications
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would we have to fill?
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- Um huh, I couldn't possibly
number the number of foreign--
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we would say to you right
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at this very beginning what
country are you interested in,
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here's the criteria.
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If you fit that criteria you go
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through the home
study assessment.
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You're meeting with
your social worker,
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you're doing all
of your paperwork.
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Complete all of the
domestic paperwork as well
496
00:27:55,812 --> 00:27:58,021
as the paperwork needed for
your immigration approval
497
00:27:58,090 --> 00:27:59,470
for the child.
498
00:27:59,539 --> 00:28:00,989
You're meeting with your
social worker, you're coming
499
00:28:01,058 --> 00:28:02,681
to trainings, you're doing
groups, your medical history,
500
00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:05,684
your legal history,
your mental health history,
your finances.
501
00:28:05,753 --> 00:28:07,996
You're writing an autobiography,
which is then used later
502
00:28:08,065 --> 00:28:09,170
for your home study document.
503
00:28:09,239 --> 00:28:10,758
It also has supporting
documentation
504
00:28:10,827 --> 00:28:12,138
that needs to be provided.
505
00:28:12,207 --> 00:28:13,864
It's going to be an
enormous stack of paperwork
506
00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:16,004
and then you're putting together
what we call your dossier
507
00:28:16,073 --> 00:28:18,213
through several levels
of authentication.
508
00:28:18,282 --> 00:28:20,215
Families have to have a
psychological evaluation,
509
00:28:20,284 --> 00:28:22,977
you're completing a medical
form, a financial form.
510
00:28:23,046 --> 00:28:24,116
So it needs a notary.
511
00:28:24,185 --> 00:28:25,255
It needs a City Clerk stamp.
512
00:28:25,324 --> 00:28:26,981
It needs a State
Department stamp.
513
00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:29,673
There's a lot of
complexity to working out
the medical issues
514
00:28:29,742 --> 00:28:31,640
and do some research and
maybe talk to a pediatrician
515
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,435
about do you have the
reflective capacity.
516
00:28:33,504 --> 00:28:37,716
Not every family finds
all of this possible.
517
00:28:39,441 --> 00:28:42,134
We really want to make sure
that these children are in safe,
518
00:28:42,203 --> 00:28:44,792
loving, supportive
and nurturing homes.
519
00:28:44,861 --> 00:28:46,897
And the best way that we
know how to do that is
520
00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:51,522
to provide families with
the training and the education.
521
00:28:51,591 --> 00:28:53,697
- Then later when we
watched back the footage,
522
00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:55,181
we were both confused.
523
00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:57,528
What were all the
agencies so scared of?
524
00:28:57,597 --> 00:28:59,392
I mean they seemed
to be doing well.
525
00:28:59,461 --> 00:29:01,809
It looks like a very
successful business to me,
526
00:29:01,878 --> 00:29:05,019
but then there is the
question, "How does it work?"
527
00:29:05,088 --> 00:29:07,538
Where do all the kids come from?
528
00:29:07,607 --> 00:29:09,264
So we should be getting on
with that enormous stack
529
00:29:09,333 --> 00:29:10,749
of papers she told us about.
530
00:29:10,818 --> 00:29:13,786
But to even get to that stack of
paper it appears we need to go
531
00:29:13,855 --> 00:29:17,238
through several other
stacks of paper.
532
00:29:17,307 --> 00:29:19,827
- Basically it looks like
we have just to print
533
00:29:19,896 --> 00:29:21,276
out everything, fill it.
534
00:29:21,345 --> 00:29:24,038
So we have to print
that one, that one,
535
00:29:24,107 --> 00:29:27,110
that one, this as well.
536
00:29:27,179 --> 00:29:30,561
And each form, when you
have to fill it you have
to pay the filling fees.
537
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:35,946
So it's 700 here, it's 600 here
and it's couple forms here.
538
00:29:36,913 --> 00:29:38,707
Are you ready to do it now?
539
00:29:39,639 --> 00:29:40,537
- Um uh.
540
00:29:40,606 --> 00:29:43,195
[silence]
541
00:29:47,509 --> 00:29:49,166
- When you don't know a lot
542
00:29:49,235 --> 00:29:50,892
about adoption, you never expect
543
00:29:50,961 --> 00:29:53,446
it would cost you a dime, right?
544
00:29:53,515 --> 00:29:57,796
Because we don't sell
people in the 21st century.
545
00:29:57,865 --> 00:29:59,038
- Forty two.
546
00:29:59,107 --> 00:30:00,557
- Eight hundred eighty five.
- Sixty six.
547
00:30:00,626 --> 00:30:04,147
- What? Do they do charge more
for white kids, seriously?
548
00:30:04,216 --> 00:30:06,874
Prices depend on
skin color, sex, age,
549
00:30:06,943 --> 00:30:09,290
country of origin, what's that?
550
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:11,361
A market driven by
demand and supply.
551
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:14,053
Some birth mothers have
given away as many as five,
552
00:30:14,122 --> 00:30:16,124
six of their babies already.
553
00:30:16,193 --> 00:30:17,470
The problem is though,
554
00:30:17,539 --> 00:30:19,541
they actually get paid
for these children.
555
00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:21,992
On top of that, they
often mention a history
556
00:30:22,061 --> 00:30:24,270
of drug abuse during pregnancy.
557
00:30:24,339 --> 00:30:26,031
Now that really is worrying.
558
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,034
Aren't these mothers damaging
the health of these children?
559
00:30:29,103 --> 00:30:32,313
And considering all of that,
what should we know in order
560
00:30:32,382 --> 00:30:35,937
to give our future child
the best chances in life?
561
00:30:38,975 --> 00:30:40,700
- If you don't know the parents
562
00:30:40,769 --> 00:30:43,565
and you don't really know
the history I'm not sure
563
00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:47,915
that you would ever really get
the truth, so it is a little bit
564
00:30:47,984 --> 00:30:52,057
of a chance and I think
you have to be prepared.
565
00:30:52,126 --> 00:30:53,403
If the child is perfectly fine
566
00:30:53,472 --> 00:30:55,612
and everything is fine
then that's wonderful,
567
00:30:55,681 --> 00:31:00,928
but there's a chance that
the child may not be fine
568
00:31:00,997 --> 00:31:04,517
and there may be something
wrong in some kind of subtle way
569
00:31:04,586 --> 00:31:07,072
and so there's a lot of--
there's a lot of information
570
00:31:07,141 --> 00:31:10,075
that you'd like to have that
you don't necessarily have
571
00:31:10,144 --> 00:31:11,662
when you adopt.
572
00:31:11,731 --> 00:31:14,424
- For example, if you look at
this chart there's no question
573
00:31:14,493 --> 00:31:19,843
that there is intergenerational
transmission of addiction.
574
00:31:21,189 --> 00:31:23,778
We have certainly
evidence about alcohol.
575
00:31:23,847 --> 00:31:26,160
We have a lot of
evidence of about alcohol
576
00:31:26,229 --> 00:31:30,095
and how it can go
through generations.
577
00:31:30,164 --> 00:31:33,926
- The point in a way is that
for a long time people thought
578
00:31:33,995 --> 00:31:39,242
that people's troubles
started after they were born,
579
00:31:39,311 --> 00:31:42,693
but I guess that
there's many things
580
00:31:42,762 --> 00:31:45,420
that can affect
your chances in life
581
00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:47,422
that happen before
you are even born.
582
00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:50,425
- If you were going
to draw an iceberg,
583
00:31:50,494 --> 00:31:53,221
the tip of the iceberg
is what we call
584
00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:56,604
fetal alcohol syndrome,
the most severe.
585
00:31:56,673 --> 00:32:00,919
However, the rest
also has affects
586
00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:03,335
so that these children
have central nervous system
587
00:32:03,404 --> 00:32:06,062
disorders, they have
the facial features
588
00:32:06,131 --> 00:32:10,894
and they have poor growth
not only in the fetus,
589
00:32:10,963 --> 00:32:14,725
they're born small, but
they continue to stay small.
590
00:32:14,794 --> 00:32:18,143
- Even if you have-- the only
piece of information you have
591
00:32:18,212 --> 00:32:19,868
about somebody is birth weight,
592
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:24,425
on average you can predict you
know that that has an affect
593
00:32:24,494 --> 00:32:27,876
on their future education,
on their future earnings,
594
00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:30,638
on their future health,
on the birth weight
595
00:32:30,707 --> 00:32:32,053
of their own children.
596
00:32:32,122 --> 00:32:35,022
So there's kind of an
intergenerational effect.
597
00:32:35,091 --> 00:32:39,612
- If we look at the
fetus, here's the embryo
598
00:32:39,681 --> 00:32:44,238
and you can see here that
the red areas
599
00:32:44,307 --> 00:32:46,481
are major congenital anomalies.
600
00:32:46,550 --> 00:32:50,037
That is if an insult
occurs at that time
601
00:32:50,106 --> 00:32:54,938
that you could possibly have
major congenital abnormalities.
602
00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:58,286
- So there's things like
not getting good nutrition
603
00:32:58,355 --> 00:33:02,911
when you're pregnant,
being very stressed
604
00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:04,741
when you're pregnant,
605
00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:08,400
being exposed to pollution,
things like smoking
606
00:33:08,469 --> 00:33:11,575
and drinking, which could
be related to stress
607
00:33:11,644 --> 00:33:14,095
and have bad effects
on the fetus.
608
00:33:14,164 --> 00:33:17,926
- The babies can have
what we call neonatal
609
00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:20,515
abstinence syndrome.
610
00:33:20,584 --> 00:33:24,657
And what this means
is that once you cut
611
00:33:24,726 --> 00:33:25,831
the umbilical cord,
612
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:28,213
you have now cut the
drug supply to the baby.
613
00:33:28,282 --> 00:33:32,665
And now the baby is going
to withdraw from that drug,
614
00:33:32,734 --> 00:33:36,738
whatever the drug was,
particularly in the opiates.
615
00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:39,948
That's where the most
vigorous withdrawal occurs.
616
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:43,642
And so what happens
initially is the baby
617
00:33:43,711 --> 00:33:47,784
will have some tremors,
618
00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:50,200
start to shake
just a little bit.
619
00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:52,754
[machine]
620
00:33:55,723 --> 00:33:59,968
And then those tremors
can get worse and worse.
621
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,763
[machine]
622
00:34:22,957 --> 00:34:24,269
- I'm an attorney, but the title
623
00:34:24,338 --> 00:34:26,719
that I have most often
is Attorney for the Child
624
00:34:26,788 --> 00:34:31,138
and I represent children in
trial in a variety of cases.
625
00:34:31,207 --> 00:34:35,383
You know I represented
a little girl who had--
626
00:34:35,452 --> 00:34:37,799
the mother was very limited.
627
00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:40,423
You know IQ wise she
was probably just
628
00:34:40,492 --> 00:34:43,322
above what we would call you
know developmentally disabled
629
00:34:43,391 --> 00:34:45,255
and the dad wasn't much better.
630
00:34:45,324 --> 00:34:47,602
He had a real problem because
he kept getting arrested
631
00:34:47,671 --> 00:34:49,017
and getting locked up.
632
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:51,434
And they had three children
together, of course,
633
00:34:51,503 --> 00:34:52,711
because they fought all the time
634
00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:54,437
so naturally they
would then have to
635
00:34:54,506 --> 00:34:56,024
have more kids together.
636
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,854
She could parent
one of those kids
637
00:34:57,923 --> 00:35:00,753
and she did a pretty good
job when she had one at home.
638
00:35:00,822 --> 00:35:04,895
When there was more than
one she became overwhelmed.
639
00:35:04,964 --> 00:35:08,382
I had a case when I
was in the DA's office
640
00:35:08,451 --> 00:35:10,763
with parents who were both deaf.
641
00:35:10,832 --> 00:35:14,181
They were hard of hearing
and they were watching TV
642
00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,528
and the kids kept running in
front of the television set;
643
00:35:16,597 --> 00:35:18,599
the one little
boy, particularly.
644
00:35:18,668 --> 00:35:20,497
And the father had just had it.
645
00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:22,120
He had just had
it with this kid.
646
00:35:22,189 --> 00:35:25,123
So he picks him up and he
goes in the bathroom and turns
647
00:35:25,192 --> 00:35:28,195
on the hot water and he runs
the tub full of hot water
648
00:35:28,264 --> 00:35:33,165
and he dunks the kid into
the hot water all the way
649
00:35:33,234 --> 00:35:35,305
up to about here.
650
00:35:35,374 --> 00:35:36,720
And this little boy had burns.
651
00:35:36,789 --> 00:35:38,170
His genitals were burned.
652
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,620
His back was burned.
653
00:35:39,689 --> 00:35:43,865
His legs were burned because
he held him in the tub.
654
00:35:43,934 --> 00:35:45,833
And this child was taken
from the foster home
655
00:35:45,902 --> 00:35:47,697
where he had been
for about a year
656
00:35:47,766 --> 00:35:49,664
and was placed with this couple.
657
00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:51,977
Now, I dealt with this
from the criminal justice
658
00:35:52,046 --> 00:35:53,220
side of things.
659
00:35:53,289 --> 00:35:54,773
I didn't-- I wasn't part
of the family court case
660
00:35:54,842 --> 00:35:57,431
so I didn't do the home
study or anything like that.
661
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:02,815
But what ended up happening was
this child was beat to death
662
00:36:02,884 --> 00:36:08,338
and he-- he was a difficult
child when he got here.
663
00:36:08,407 --> 00:36:11,583
And by that I mean most kids
are difficult at age two.
664
00:36:11,652 --> 00:36:12,929
- Yeah, but--
- They like to say no.
665
00:36:12,998 --> 00:36:14,793
- They like to do whatever.
- Right.
666
00:36:14,862 --> 00:36:18,555
- But these parents instead of
being parents became engaged
667
00:36:18,624 --> 00:36:21,765
in this battle of
wills with this child
668
00:36:21,834 --> 00:36:23,940
and you know he's not going
to win that battle of wills
669
00:36:24,009 --> 00:36:28,220
because he's this big
and they're adults.
670
00:36:28,289 --> 00:36:32,259
And he ended up in essence
being beaten to death.
671
00:36:32,328 --> 00:36:34,951
When he died he had bruises
all over his whole body,
672
00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:36,987
I mean all over his whole body.
673
00:36:37,056 --> 00:36:39,266
And he had internal injuries
from having been struck
674
00:36:39,335 --> 00:36:42,165
so many times and so
hard with various things.
675
00:36:42,234 --> 00:36:44,547
And both of those parents
ended up going to prison
676
00:36:44,616 --> 00:36:47,274
not for as long as
probably they deserved.
677
00:36:47,343 --> 00:36:48,999
There's a Judge in Monroe
County who a number
678
00:36:49,068 --> 00:36:53,107
of years ago did issue an
order to a parent she'd had,
679
00:36:53,176 --> 00:36:56,524
I want to say six children
who had been taken from her
680
00:36:56,593 --> 00:36:58,595
and had her rights
terminated to them.
681
00:36:58,664 --> 00:37:02,116
And she issued an order
that this person could not
have any more children,
682
00:37:02,185 --> 00:37:04,152
could not have
any more children.
683
00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:07,984
[silence]
684
00:37:12,057 --> 00:37:16,026
- Hurt people hurt people.
685
00:37:16,095 --> 00:37:20,341
My mother, I learned,
was abused by her mother.
686
00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:27,831
My mother was raised that
in society in the 30s
and 40s basically it was men,
687
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:31,352
dog and way below
that line was women.
688
00:37:31,421 --> 00:37:34,976
In society at the time we
didn't talk about politics, sex,
689
00:37:35,045 --> 00:37:38,221
cancer, health and God
forbid if you talked about
690
00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:40,430
what happened to you
so many years ago.
691
00:37:40,499 --> 00:37:44,192
So psychologically speaking
it's a learned behavior.
692
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,678
After my mom held my
arm over a gas stove
693
00:37:46,747 --> 00:37:48,231
for several seconds,
694
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:52,270
she just burnt the arm, skin
and I don't really want to get
695
00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:55,480
into it, but afterwards she
threw me down the stairs
696
00:37:55,549 --> 00:37:57,413
where I lived in the basement.
697
00:37:57,482 --> 00:37:59,484
When it began in the very--
698
00:37:59,553 --> 00:38:01,486
you know age three
and a half, four,
699
00:38:01,555 --> 00:38:03,384
I believed I was a bad child.
700
00:38:03,453 --> 00:38:06,456
I cried too much or I was always
somehow getting in trouble.
701
00:38:06,525 --> 00:38:09,770
I believed I deserved the
treatment that I received.
702
00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:12,290
But as things digress,
after age eight
703
00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:14,602
and especially
before I was rescued,
704
00:38:14,671 --> 00:38:16,052
she wasn't the mom any more.
705
00:38:16,121 --> 00:38:19,952
She was another persona
to me, to the point I--
706
00:38:20,021 --> 00:38:25,026
she used to call me David,
then the boy, then it.
707
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:28,064
From age eight to age 12, I mean
things got progressively worse,
708
00:38:28,133 --> 00:38:30,584
obviously between
my mother and I.
709
00:38:30,653 --> 00:38:32,689
And I just had to
develop little systems.
710
00:38:32,758 --> 00:38:35,520
I would hide food
in a garbage can
711
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:37,245
that she would
lace with ammonia.
712
00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:39,869
Okay so the first
time that didn't work.
713
00:38:39,938 --> 00:38:42,906
So now I take foil and
paper towel and wrap it
714
00:38:42,975 --> 00:38:45,909
around the food so that
maybe it would splash over
715
00:38:45,978 --> 00:38:48,567
or when I'd get physically
beaten I had to learn
716
00:38:48,636 --> 00:38:51,190
to tighten parts of my body.
717
00:38:51,259 --> 00:38:53,538
When you're in the
bottom of the basement
718
00:38:53,607 --> 00:38:54,677
again there is nothing,
719
00:38:54,746 --> 00:38:56,989
it's a void, it's
less than zero.
720
00:38:57,058 --> 00:39:01,477
And I would hear the kids play
and the cards in the spokes
721
00:39:01,546 --> 00:39:06,999
in the bikes running up and
down the street and the glee.
722
00:39:07,068 --> 00:39:11,072
When everything is dark,
your senses are so amplified.
723
00:39:11,141 --> 00:39:14,248
It's just like someone
banging a gong in your heart
724
00:39:14,317 --> 00:39:16,699
and it just resonates and
resonates and you just feel
725
00:39:16,768 --> 00:39:21,497
with every breath you take it
just drains your life force.
726
00:39:21,566 --> 00:39:26,709
And that's when I basically
almost quit, I almost I gave up.
727
00:39:26,778 --> 00:39:28,642
And when my mom would choke me,
728
00:39:28,711 --> 00:39:31,541
several times I
remember my eyes were
729
00:39:31,610 --> 00:39:32,922
about to pop out of my socket.
730
00:39:32,991 --> 00:39:36,581
And you can feel yourself
feel faint and go limp
731
00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:38,445
and I actually prayed, do it.
732
00:39:38,514 --> 00:39:41,344
Throw me down the
stairs, stab me some more
733
00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:43,933
and I remember one time I
just glared back at her,
734
00:39:44,002 --> 00:39:45,486
which I was not supposed
to have contact.
735
00:39:45,555 --> 00:39:46,798
I just glared right at her.
736
00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:49,145
I hate to say this, I
just remember thinking
737
00:39:49,214 --> 00:39:53,149
if you kill me I'm going
to heaven and you are
738
00:39:53,218 --> 00:39:56,014
so staying in your own hell.
739
00:39:56,083 --> 00:39:58,119
- [Olga] When you were a child
740
00:39:58,188 --> 00:40:01,640
in an absolutely desperate
situation, how did you see
741
00:40:01,709 --> 00:40:02,745
your future?
742
00:40:02,814 --> 00:40:04,022
What did you think
about yourself
743
00:40:04,091 --> 00:40:05,679
like 20 years from that point?
744
00:40:05,748 --> 00:40:06,611
- You know--
745
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,923
- [Olga] Did you see any future?
746
00:40:11,650 --> 00:40:18,208
- I thought at the time I
was going to live to be 400.
747
00:40:18,277 --> 00:40:23,490
I mean I didn't-- my thought
process was different
748
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,699
than other people.
749
00:40:25,768 --> 00:40:29,219
And I thought I'm going to be
400 and living in the basement
750
00:40:30,186 --> 00:40:32,499
and I thought my only hope was--
751
00:40:32,568 --> 00:40:37,918
and this was toward the
end before I was rescued.
752
00:40:37,987 --> 00:40:41,024
I thought if I can
just live five days
753
00:40:41,093 --> 00:40:46,444
after she dies, then I can
walk outside and I can be free.
754
00:40:47,583 --> 00:40:51,897
[piano music]
755
00:41:01,769 --> 00:41:05,117
[silence]
756
00:41:05,186 --> 00:41:08,017
- If you feed a kid, give them
a house, get them to school
757
00:41:08,086 --> 00:41:09,432
and make sure that
they get their shots,
758
00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:11,158
it doesn't mean you're a
good parent in my opinion.
759
00:41:11,227 --> 00:41:13,263
It's harder to adopt
a dog in this country
760
00:41:13,332 --> 00:41:15,024
than it is to have a child.
761
00:41:15,093 --> 00:41:16,266
There's no licensing required,
762
00:41:16,335 --> 00:41:18,786
no-one looks into
your background.
763
00:41:18,855 --> 00:41:20,478
And to a certain extent
I understand that.
764
00:41:20,547 --> 00:41:22,376
I don't necessarily want
the United States government
765
00:41:22,445 --> 00:41:24,102
examining every woman
and saying, well,
766
00:41:24,171 --> 00:41:25,241
you're fit to have a child
767
00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:27,554
and you're not fit
to have a child.
768
00:41:27,623 --> 00:41:30,971
But when we look at the result
on the other end of people
769
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,490
who have children you know some
770
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:34,975
of these people really I
wouldn't let them have a
771
00:41:35,044 --> 00:41:38,012
goldfish much less a
child if it were up to me,
772
00:41:38,081 --> 00:41:39,497
if it were my decision.
773
00:41:39,566 --> 00:41:42,154
[silence]
774
00:41:45,951 --> 00:41:48,022
- Oh boy, good question.
775
00:41:48,091 --> 00:41:50,093
- That you have certain criteria
776
00:41:50,162 --> 00:41:53,441
and certain requirements,
oh I think it should be.
777
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:58,826
- Definitely not in favor of
that, because accidents happen
778
00:41:58,895 --> 00:42:01,001
in the bedroom, we know that.
779
00:42:01,070 --> 00:42:05,074
- I-- I'm really in
conflict about it.
780
00:42:05,143 --> 00:42:06,489
- Because people right
now they have kids
781
00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:09,078
and they regret why did
they do it, not the kid
782
00:42:09,147 --> 00:42:11,321
but they regret the timing.
783
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:13,323
- Hmm.
784
00:42:13,392 --> 00:42:15,671
- Overpopulation is a huge
issue and there are lots
785
00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:19,191
of people having children that
they just can't take care of,
786
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:21,090
but I think that it
is really infringing
787
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,575
on our basic human rights
and I think instead
788
00:42:23,644 --> 00:42:26,613
of making those laws they should
invest that same time and energy
789
00:42:26,682 --> 00:42:29,961
in educating the populace
and educating people
790
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:33,412
about how difficult
it is to be a parent.
791
00:42:36,139 --> 00:42:38,556
- One should be at least
18, because high school,
792
00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:40,143
you're going to graduate
high school hopefully
793
00:42:40,212 --> 00:42:44,320
so that you can get a job where
you can provide for a family.
794
00:42:44,389 --> 00:42:46,011
So, I mean I think that--
795
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,013
offhand I think the only
criteria that I have
796
00:42:48,082 --> 00:42:50,257
in my head is that
you're at least 18
and that you have a partner
797
00:42:50,326 --> 00:42:52,259
and that you're
willing to do it.
798
00:42:52,328 --> 00:42:57,644
- It's a good idea, but I think
it could become a bad idea.
799
00:42:59,646 --> 00:43:01,855
- This is actually a
very good question.
800
00:43:01,924 --> 00:43:05,134
Which right is more important,
the child's right to health
801
00:43:05,203 --> 00:43:08,620
and happiness or
your right to parent?
802
00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:13,383
- Well, let us be
clear of one thing,
803
00:43:13,452 --> 00:43:16,904
every child from the
moment it's conceived
804
00:43:16,973 --> 00:43:20,356
in the mother's womb is life.
805
00:43:20,425 --> 00:43:24,325
- Until a child is born it's
not fully a human being.
806
00:43:24,394 --> 00:43:29,261
It still takes the participation
of the mother's body
807
00:43:29,330 --> 00:43:33,196
and the experience of
giving birth for it
808
00:43:33,265 --> 00:43:35,371
to become a full human being.
809
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,581
- Well human for a
child, at five years old.
810
00:43:38,650 --> 00:43:41,549
My mama, you know right your
mama is your first teacher.
811
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:43,448
Your mother is
your first teacher.
812
00:43:43,517 --> 00:43:45,933
At five years old we
knew right from wrong.
813
00:43:46,002 --> 00:43:48,004
My mama had five kids.
814
00:43:48,073 --> 00:43:49,592
- We were what nine, ten.
815
00:43:49,661 --> 00:43:50,420
- Nine, ten.
816
00:43:50,489 --> 00:43:51,698
- Um huh.
817
00:43:51,767 --> 00:43:53,113
- When they are an adult.
818
00:43:53,182 --> 00:43:56,012
When they're old enough to
make their own decisions
819
00:43:56,081 --> 00:43:59,291
and be able to
function as an adult.
820
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,812
- Legal and social institutions,
821
00:44:02,881 --> 00:44:05,712
they don't have a lot to say.
822
00:44:05,781 --> 00:44:08,093
[silence]
823
00:44:11,131 --> 00:44:14,272
- The rights of
any individual is
824
00:44:14,341 --> 00:44:18,069
in relationship
to where you live.
825
00:44:18,138 --> 00:44:19,898
- [Michael] Northwest Alabama.
826
00:44:19,967 --> 00:44:21,555
Amanda Kimbrough
was arrested shortly
827
00:44:21,624 --> 00:44:24,109
after her third child
died at 19 minutes old.
828
00:44:24,178 --> 00:44:25,697
When Kimbrough was
tested positive
829
00:44:25,766 --> 00:44:28,458
for methamphetamine her first
two daughters were physically
830
00:44:28,527 --> 00:44:31,082
removed from her custody
and she was charged
831
00:44:31,151 --> 00:44:33,740
with chemical
endangerment of her child.
832
00:44:33,809 --> 00:44:36,743
Alabama became the national
capital of prosecuting parents
833
00:44:36,812 --> 00:44:38,606
on behalf of newborn children.
834
00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:40,747
With this as a precedent,
the states of New Jersey,
835
00:44:40,816 --> 00:44:44,578
California, South Carolina,
Tennessee, Arizona,
836
00:44:44,647 --> 00:44:47,719
Texas now also remove kids
from abusive birth mothers
837
00:44:47,788 --> 00:44:51,343
who use illegal drugs and
methadone during pregnancy.
838
00:44:51,412 --> 00:44:55,485
The question is how far
are they prepared to go.
839
00:44:57,211 --> 00:44:59,524
The United Kingdom, 2008,
840
00:44:59,593 --> 00:45:01,560
a couple with seven
children were warned
841
00:45:01,629 --> 00:45:04,218
that they could lose custody of
their severely obese children
842
00:45:04,287 --> 00:45:07,014
if they failed to
manage their weight.
843
00:45:07,083 --> 00:45:09,879
In December 2011 the
kids were taken away
844
00:45:09,948 --> 00:45:11,536
and put in foster care.
845
00:45:11,605 --> 00:45:15,574
The parents will never be
able to contact them again.
846
00:45:15,643 --> 00:45:17,576
They have already
removed 14 of these kids
847
00:45:17,645 --> 00:45:19,820
from different families
in the UK alone.
848
00:45:19,889 --> 00:45:23,272
Norway, the government takes
children away for eating
849
00:45:23,341 --> 00:45:26,585
with their fingers and sharing
a bed with their parents.
850
00:45:26,654 --> 00:45:28,691
It looks like it's
already too late.
851
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,176
Apparently we missed the
moment when governments decided
852
00:45:31,245 --> 00:45:35,318
that they would control
a parent's rights.
853
00:45:35,387 --> 00:45:37,769
Well known for his controversial
studies in his book
854
00:45:37,838 --> 00:45:40,461
"The Population Bomb," the
godfather of family planning
855
00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:43,637
in the U.S., Professor Paul
Ralph Ehrlich, could be the man
856
00:45:43,706 --> 00:45:45,087
with an answer.
857
00:45:45,156 --> 00:45:48,469
- The craziest idea socially
and the one that we have
858
00:45:48,538 --> 00:45:52,680
discussed but never supported,
was to find some way
859
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:55,925
to make everybody sterile
so that if they wanted
860
00:45:55,994 --> 00:45:58,721
to have a child they would
have to take an antidote
861
00:45:58,790 --> 00:46:03,899
so that having a baby would
require a positive step.
862
00:46:03,968 --> 00:46:08,179
And people hate that idea,
think it's really terrible.
863
00:46:08,248 --> 00:46:09,697
But, of course, if you do that
864
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,769
there'd be no more abortion
problems and all of us would
865
00:46:11,838 --> 00:46:13,667
like to see you get
rid of abortion.
866
00:46:13,736 --> 00:46:15,289
There'd be no more
unwanted children.
867
00:46:15,358 --> 00:46:17,809
If they can't manage their
reproductive instinct,
868
00:46:17,878 --> 00:46:19,984
then their children are
going to live miserable lives
869
00:46:20,053 --> 00:46:23,090
and civilization is going
to eventually collapse.
870
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:24,712
There's massive evidence
871
00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:28,371
that people can manage their
reproductive instincts.
872
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,168
For example, as far back
as during imperial Egypt
873
00:46:32,237 --> 00:46:35,033
thousands of years
ago women used
874
00:46:35,102 --> 00:46:37,553
crocodile dung suppositories
875
00:46:37,622 --> 00:46:39,313
to control their reproduction.
876
00:46:39,382 --> 00:46:43,007
Now I don't know whether
crocodile dung suppositories
877
00:46:43,076 --> 00:46:44,422
were effective.
878
00:46:44,491 --> 00:46:48,288
I suspect they were though;
no studies were done.
879
00:46:48,357 --> 00:46:53,534
- Well, why did you
decide to have one child?
880
00:46:53,603 --> 00:46:56,883
- Well, one of the reasons
was it's the responsible thing
to do.
881
00:46:56,952 --> 00:47:00,127
If you care about the
environment you can do much more
882
00:47:00,196 --> 00:47:02,302
by limiting your
reproduction than you can
883
00:47:02,371 --> 00:47:05,581
by say driving a hybrid car.
884
00:47:05,650 --> 00:47:07,134
In other words, if you want to--
885
00:47:07,203 --> 00:47:09,965
I would like to see a world
where we have maybe a billion
886
00:47:10,034 --> 00:47:11,621
or a billion and a half people
887
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:14,383
and everybody can
lead a decent life
888
00:47:14,452 --> 00:47:15,936
and their children can grow--
889
00:47:16,005 --> 00:47:19,215
remember it shouldn't be what
number of children you want
890
00:47:19,284 --> 00:47:20,768
to have, it's got
to be what kind
891
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,736
of life do you want
the kids to have?
892
00:47:22,805 --> 00:47:25,290
What kind of world do
you want them to live in?
893
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,879
The idea that I should
have nine children
894
00:47:27,948 --> 00:47:31,124
because I want nine children,
that's a very selfish thing
895
00:47:31,193 --> 00:47:32,608
to do in the world today.
896
00:47:32,677 --> 00:47:36,439
You're taking resources away
both from your first kids
897
00:47:36,508 --> 00:47:38,925
and also from everybody
else's kids as well.
898
00:47:38,994 --> 00:47:42,929
- Do you really believe that
government one day will come up
899
00:47:42,998 --> 00:47:47,312
with a law that will actually
restrict people's rights
900
00:47:47,381 --> 00:47:48,727
to have children?
901
00:47:48,796 --> 00:47:51,385
- Well, government did
come up with a law in China
902
00:47:51,454 --> 00:47:53,905
where it restricted rights
of people to have children.
903
00:47:53,974 --> 00:47:56,494
Ann and I have hoped that
we could always avoid that,
904
00:47:56,563 --> 00:47:59,255
that actually we could
change by cultural change,
905
00:47:59,324 --> 00:48:02,396
by gradual change, by
incentives and so on.
906
00:48:02,465 --> 00:48:04,812
But you, you know you never
can tell what nutty things
907
00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,262
government will do.
908
00:48:06,331 --> 00:48:08,713
[airplane]
909
00:48:08,782 --> 00:48:11,509
[driving music]
910
00:48:11,578 --> 00:48:13,545
- [Olga] The one child policy
of China officially restricts
911
00:48:13,614 --> 00:48:19,448
urban dwelling couples to
having one child only by law.
912
00:48:19,517 --> 00:48:22,554
The policy has prevented
400 million births in China
913
00:48:22,623 --> 00:48:25,730
between 1979 and 2011.
914
00:48:25,799 --> 00:48:28,664
But, according to Bureau
Research Center, 76 percent
915
00:48:28,733 --> 00:48:32,840
of the Chinese population
actually support the policy.
916
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,395
So the Chinese government
decided to allow development
917
00:48:35,464 --> 00:48:37,811
of new breakthrough
birth control technology
918
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,226
such as Novicol.
919
00:48:39,295 --> 00:48:40,987
That would empower the
women by giving them choice
920
00:48:41,056 --> 00:48:43,610
and it would help to eliminate
unexpected pregnancies
921
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:47,614
and sexually transmitted
diseases including HIV.
922
00:48:47,683 --> 00:48:49,996
To understand the one child
policy effect, I decided
923
00:48:50,065 --> 00:48:52,584
to ask some ordinary people
and to talk with an old friend
924
00:48:52,653 --> 00:48:55,484
of mine, philanthropist,
UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador
925
00:48:55,553 --> 00:48:58,418
and one of the most
famous TV hosts
926
00:48:58,487 --> 00:49:00,006
in China, James Chau.
927
00:49:00,075 --> 00:49:01,628
Was it a good thing for China
928
00:49:01,697 --> 00:49:04,251
or was it a bad thing for China
929
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,804
or you just can't say right now?
930
00:49:05,873 --> 00:49:08,117
- I don't think we really
know the full story
931
00:49:08,186 --> 00:49:11,879
and we can only look back
maybe in 100 years and look
932
00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:15,331
at the full impact it's had
and be able to judge based
933
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,472
on what we really
do to fully know.
934
00:49:18,541 --> 00:49:24,478
But, you have to understand
whether you like it or not
935
00:49:24,547 --> 00:49:25,997
without getting to
the rights and wrongs,
936
00:49:26,066 --> 00:49:27,619
and really not getting to
the rights and wrongs of this
937
00:49:27,688 --> 00:49:30,036
because that's a
different argument.
938
00:49:30,105 --> 00:49:32,486
China was a very poor country.
939
00:49:32,555 --> 00:49:38,147
It could hardly have
the capacity to feed its own
940
00:49:38,216 --> 00:49:42,980
and its population was growing
faster and faster and faster.
941
00:49:43,049 --> 00:49:46,431
And it needed a way
to put a stop to that
942
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:48,295
or to slow it down.
943
00:49:48,364 --> 00:49:50,021
Is this the right way?
944
00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:55,302
I don't know, but it
succeeded and it achieved.
945
00:49:55,371 --> 00:49:59,927
Economic reforms pulled out
hundreds of millions of people
946
00:49:59,997 --> 00:50:04,932
out of poverty, and slowing
down the population growth
947
00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:10,076
ensured that people in some
ways had a better life,
948
00:50:10,145 --> 00:50:12,009
so it's hard to say.
949
00:50:14,735 --> 00:50:17,531
[foreign language spoken]
950
00:50:28,128 --> 00:50:31,028
It's funny because you have
four grandparents, two parents,
951
00:50:31,097 --> 00:50:36,723
one child; all that focus, all
that ambition, all that hope,
952
00:50:36,792 --> 00:50:41,279
all that desire, all
that love is channeling
953
00:50:41,348 --> 00:50:43,557
from four grandparents
to two parents.
954
00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:44,869
- So there's one kid--
- It's all focusing--
955
00:50:44,938 --> 00:50:46,284
- Gets lot of
attention a lot of--
956
00:50:46,353 --> 00:50:49,839
- Attention or sometimes
pressure or sometimes love
957
00:50:49,908 --> 00:50:52,221
or sometimes all
that put together.
958
00:50:52,290 --> 00:50:53,774
It's, it's incredible.
959
00:50:53,843 --> 00:50:55,983
You see the way it's moved.
960
00:50:56,053 --> 00:50:58,883
[martial arts]
961
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,303
I think people want choice.
962
00:51:05,372 --> 00:51:08,996
- I think that's what's
beautiful about the world.
- Yeah.
963
00:51:09,066 --> 00:51:12,621
- And I think in terms
of having children, I
think not necessarily
964
00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:14,726
people want to say,
I want to have more
965
00:51:14,795 --> 00:51:18,247
than one child, but maybe
they want to say, I want
966
00:51:18,316 --> 00:51:21,975
to have the possibility of
having more than one child.
967
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,841
[foreign language spoken]
968
00:51:33,607 --> 00:51:35,126
- So you truly really believe
969
00:51:35,195 --> 00:51:37,715
that no one should control the
reproductive rights of people?
970
00:51:37,784 --> 00:51:40,752
- I think we have to be careful
because once we start saying
971
00:51:40,821 --> 00:51:43,238
that you don't have
the right to do this,
972
00:51:43,307 --> 00:51:44,515
it opens the door to say
973
00:51:44,584 --> 00:51:46,172
that they don't have
the right to do a lot
974
00:51:46,241 --> 00:51:47,966
of other things as well.
975
00:51:48,035 --> 00:51:51,694
[fast music]
976
00:51:56,147 --> 00:51:58,632
[silence]
977
00:52:00,565 --> 00:52:02,705
[typing on keyboard]
978
00:52:02,774 --> 00:52:05,812
[shuffling papers]
979
00:52:15,546 --> 00:52:17,341
[silence]
980
00:52:17,410 --> 00:52:19,205
- That's enough.
981
00:52:19,274 --> 00:52:21,172
Plan B.
982
00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:23,933
- If you decided to adopt
one of those children--
983
00:52:24,002 --> 00:52:26,936
- [Michael] Dawa owns a
community school in Nepal.
984
00:52:27,005 --> 00:52:30,768
He suggested we consider
adopting a child from there.
985
00:52:30,837 --> 00:52:32,252
- Teachers are living there.
986
00:52:32,321 --> 00:52:35,013
They eat there, they live
there and they study there.
987
00:52:35,082 --> 00:52:37,844
So it's a totally
boarding school, yeah.
988
00:52:37,913 --> 00:52:40,329
Okay, so here's a
postcard from my school.
989
00:52:40,398 --> 00:52:43,021
So you can take a look
and these are the children
990
00:52:43,090 --> 00:52:44,885
from the school.
991
00:52:44,954 --> 00:52:47,612
I want you to go there in person
992
00:52:47,681 --> 00:52:51,513
and if you like to adopt then
993
00:52:51,582 --> 00:52:54,101
that will be the
first option and--
994
00:52:54,171 --> 00:52:56,552
- How long would it take
in the whole process here?
995
00:52:56,621 --> 00:52:58,175
- It could take
couple of months.
996
00:52:58,244 --> 00:52:59,106
- A couple of months?
997
00:52:59,176 --> 00:52:59,728
- A couple of months.
998
00:52:59,797 --> 00:53:02,765
[rhythmic music]
999
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:10,290
[outdoor sounds]
1000
00:53:26,893 --> 00:53:29,275
- [Olga] After a nine hour
drive and another nine hours
1001
00:53:29,344 --> 00:53:33,520
trekking through the
Himalayas, we finally
1002
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:37,317
[bells ringing]
1003
00:53:37,386 --> 00:53:41,425
[foreign language spoken]
1004
00:53:41,494 --> 00:53:42,667
- I'm Olga.
1005
00:53:42,736 --> 00:53:46,740
[children singing]
1006
00:53:59,408 --> 00:54:00,444
- They stay here.
1007
00:54:00,513 --> 00:54:01,479
They sleep here.
1008
00:54:01,548 --> 00:54:02,722
They eat here and they--
1009
00:54:02,791 --> 00:54:04,033
- Everything.
1010
00:54:04,102 --> 00:54:05,897
- What classes do they have?
1011
00:54:05,966 --> 00:54:09,936
- We have English
one and English two--
1012
00:54:10,005 --> 00:54:12,318
- We spoke to the principal
who told us a bit about life
1013
00:54:12,387 --> 00:54:14,975
in the community school and
encouraged us to have a look
1014
00:54:15,044 --> 00:54:17,564
around and attend some classes.
1015
00:54:17,633 --> 00:54:19,842
I've been to many
orphanages in my life
1016
00:54:19,911 --> 00:54:22,500
but this little hideaway
for kids broke my heart.
1017
00:54:22,569 --> 00:54:24,640
There are no toys,
no heating system.
1018
00:54:24,709 --> 00:54:27,471
They don't even
have a proper roof.
1019
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:30,059
- A-B-C-D-E-F-G.
1020
00:54:30,128 --> 00:54:32,717
- [group singing] A-B-C-D-E-F-G.
1021
00:54:32,786 --> 00:54:35,064
- H-I-J-K-L-M-N-O.
1022
00:54:35,133 --> 00:54:38,102
- [group singing]
H-I-J-K-L-M-N-O.
1023
00:54:38,171 --> 00:54:39,966
- P-Q-R-S-T-U-V.
1024
00:54:40,035 --> 00:54:42,624
- [group singing] P-Q-R-S-T-U-V.
1025
00:54:42,693 --> 00:54:44,350
- W-X-Y-Z.
1026
00:54:44,419 --> 00:54:47,214
- [group singing] W-X-Y-Z.
1027
00:54:47,284 --> 00:54:48,871
[children singing]
1028
00:54:50,356 --> 00:54:54,981
[children playing]
1029
00:55:01,850 --> 00:55:03,161
- [Michael] These kids
came to live at the school
1030
00:55:03,230 --> 00:55:05,578
because their parents
have either abandoned them
1031
00:55:05,647 --> 00:55:07,959
or been unable to care for them.
1032
00:55:08,028 --> 00:55:10,065
This young girl burned
her leg in a fire.
1033
00:55:10,134 --> 00:55:12,757
She couldn't work any more,
so her parents threw her
1034
00:55:12,826 --> 00:55:15,104
out into the street
like a piece of trash.
1035
00:55:15,173 --> 00:55:17,797
She had to cross the
Himalayas to get here.
1036
00:55:17,866 --> 00:55:20,351
This journey cost her her foot.
1037
00:55:23,043 --> 00:55:24,424
- And you are here by yourself.
1038
00:55:24,493 --> 00:55:27,427
- Yes.
- When did you see
your mother last time?
1039
00:55:28,704 --> 00:55:30,119
- I don't know about my mother.
1040
00:55:30,188 --> 00:55:31,983
- You never met her?
- No.
1041
00:55:32,052 --> 00:55:34,779
- And your father, when
did you see him last time?
1042
00:55:37,610 --> 00:55:38,645
- I don't know.
1043
00:55:38,714 --> 00:55:42,062
[children talking]
1044
00:55:54,903 --> 00:55:55,973
- Nice to meet you.
1045
00:55:56,042 --> 00:55:56,767
- Nice to meet you too.
1046
00:55:56,836 --> 00:55:58,941
- Hi, I'm Mike.
1047
00:55:59,010 --> 00:56:01,427
- Despite such living
conditions, they remain positive
1048
00:56:01,496 --> 00:56:02,669
and full of hope.
1049
00:56:02,738 --> 00:56:04,947
I wish I could give
them a better life.
1050
00:56:05,016 --> 00:56:07,433
But will this ever be possible?
1051
00:56:07,502 --> 00:56:08,951
What is your name?
1052
00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:10,746
- If for example somebody
would like to adopt one
1053
00:56:10,815 --> 00:56:14,440
of your kids, would
you allow to do that?
1054
00:56:14,509 --> 00:56:16,890
[foreign language spoken]
1055
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,585
- You would love to do that.
1056
00:56:21,654 --> 00:56:22,551
- You would allow that?
1057
00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:24,415
- Yes, he would allow that.
1058
00:56:42,537 --> 00:56:43,745
- Yes, she would allow.
1059
00:56:43,814 --> 00:56:46,264
- She would allow.
1060
00:56:46,333 --> 00:56:47,990
- How can this be?
1061
00:56:48,059 --> 00:56:49,923
Could you give away your
child just like that
1062
00:56:49,992 --> 00:56:52,478
to somebody you
never met before?
1063
00:56:54,272 --> 00:56:56,067
I have never seen
such detachment
1064
00:56:56,136 --> 00:56:58,622
between parents
and their children.
1065
00:56:58,691 --> 00:57:01,866
[children singing]
1066
00:57:08,286 --> 00:57:11,151
[bell ringing]
1067
00:57:12,705 --> 00:57:14,534
[helicopter]
1068
00:57:14,603 --> 00:57:16,363
- [Olga] When it was time
to go, a few of the kids
1069
00:57:16,433 --> 00:57:19,436
ran over give us some
letters they had written.
1070
00:57:23,163 --> 00:57:25,062
When we were reading
them on our way back
1071
00:57:25,131 --> 00:57:27,823
across the mountains, I
felt bad about leaving them.
1072
00:57:27,892 --> 00:57:29,411
I felt guilty.
1073
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,172
We couldn't help but think
about their hopes and dreams
1074
00:57:32,241 --> 00:57:34,381
and their chances in life.
1075
00:57:34,451 --> 00:57:37,039
If we really intend to
bring one of these children
1076
00:57:37,108 --> 00:57:40,146
into our family we should
learn more about their country,
1077
00:57:40,215 --> 00:57:43,839
their culture, where
have they come from.
1078
00:57:43,908 --> 00:57:46,601
So we decided to explore
Nepal in more depth.
1079
00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:49,051
[outdoor sounds]
1080
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:53,193
[foreign language spoken]
1081
00:57:54,401 --> 00:57:57,163
Nepal has extremely
rich natural resources,
1082
00:57:57,232 --> 00:57:58,923
but it's still
one of the poorest
1083
00:57:58,992 --> 00:58:02,375
and most underdeveloped
countries in the world.
1084
00:58:02,444 --> 00:58:05,620
Half the population lives on
less than two dollars a day.
1085
00:58:05,689 --> 00:58:07,587
There are few places on
the planet where you'll see
1086
00:58:07,656 --> 00:58:10,659
so many children either roaming
and begging on the streets
1087
00:58:10,728 --> 00:58:13,628
or slaving in the fields.
1088
00:58:16,562 --> 00:58:19,841
Every second child under five
years old is malnourished
1089
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:22,291
and over a third
are underweight.
1090
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,879
There are more than
a million orphans
1091
00:58:23,948 --> 00:58:25,881
and abandoned children in Nepal.
1092
00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:27,918
81 percent of women give birth
1093
00:58:27,987 --> 00:58:30,403
in the home, and
according to UNICEF,
1094
00:58:30,472 --> 00:58:34,269
one in 20 children will
die before the age of five.
1095
00:58:34,338 --> 00:58:36,167
Those who will survive
will serve to provide
1096
00:58:36,236 --> 00:58:39,170
for their parents
and newborn siblings.
1097
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:41,103
Is this her only baby?
1098
00:58:41,172 --> 00:58:42,691
- [foreign language spoken]
1099
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,832
- She have four children.
1100
00:58:45,901 --> 00:58:48,663
- [foreign language spoken]
1101
00:58:48,732 --> 00:58:50,112
- Two sons, two daughters.
1102
00:58:50,181 --> 00:58:53,115
- And who is taking care of
three children while she's here?
1103
00:58:53,184 --> 00:58:55,532
[foreign language spoken]
1104
00:59:10,063 --> 00:59:12,652
[silence]
1105
00:59:14,171 --> 00:59:17,312
[outdoor sounds]
1106
00:59:19,521 --> 00:59:21,765
- [Olga] What is the average
size of a family here?
1107
00:59:21,834 --> 00:59:23,283
- Four, five, six.
1108
00:59:23,352 --> 00:59:25,803
- [Olga] Four,
five, six children.
1109
00:59:25,872 --> 00:59:27,874
- Do children go to school?
- No.
1110
00:59:27,943 --> 00:59:31,188
- [Olga] No, they
don't go to school.
1111
00:59:31,257 --> 00:59:33,397
- They are poor so how
will they go to school?
1112
00:59:33,466 --> 00:59:35,468
- [Olga] School is, you need
to pay money for school, right?
1113
00:59:35,537 --> 00:59:36,952
- Yeah, you need
to pay money, yeah.
1114
00:59:37,021 --> 00:59:38,229
- [Olga] Okay, so they just
don't go to school at all.
1115
00:59:38,298 --> 00:59:41,612
- It's something like
if they go to school
1116
00:59:41,681 --> 00:59:45,547
who will make those stones?
1117
00:59:45,616 --> 00:59:48,792
- [Olga] What is her biggest
dream about the children?
1118
00:59:48,861 --> 00:59:53,210
[foreign language spoken]
1119
00:59:59,285 --> 01:00:01,252
Can she read and write?
1120
01:00:01,321 --> 01:00:03,427
[foreign language spoken]
1121
01:00:07,465 --> 01:00:11,090
- She said [speech drowned
out by children's laughter].
1122
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:13,402
One other point is that
they don't have time.
1123
01:00:13,471 --> 01:00:15,266
Second thing is
like they're poor.
1124
01:00:15,335 --> 01:00:17,268
Third thing they need
to fill their belly.
1125
01:00:17,337 --> 01:00:20,755
- [Olga] Yeah.
- Fourth thing is all
the family business,
1126
01:00:20,824 --> 01:00:22,342
kind of family
business they need
1127
01:00:22,411 --> 01:00:25,656
to help their father and mother.
1128
01:00:25,725 --> 01:00:28,555
- [Olga] Many children
escape their duties at home
1129
01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:29,660
and walk for days
1130
01:00:29,729 --> 01:00:32,283
to the capital
city of Kathmandu.
1131
01:00:32,352 --> 01:00:35,217
Here they are exploited
and forced to beg.
1132
01:00:35,286 --> 01:00:36,563
Their dreams crumble
1133
01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:40,291
and they turn to
religion for salvation.
1134
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,535
In Hindu temples coins
are placed on the eyes
1135
01:00:42,604 --> 01:00:45,089
of the dead before
they are burned.
1136
01:00:45,158 --> 01:00:48,437
Then the remains are
dumped in the river.
1137
01:00:48,506 --> 01:00:51,509
Abandoned by their parents,
starving children struggle
1138
01:00:51,578 --> 01:00:54,685
to survive by searching
for these coins
1139
01:00:54,754 --> 01:00:58,137
in this polluted water.
1140
01:00:58,206 --> 01:01:00,484
So the community school,
which at first glance seemed
1141
01:01:00,553 --> 01:01:03,729
like a kid's prison, now
appears to be more of a paradise
1142
01:01:03,798 --> 01:01:07,802
where they at least have access
to food and basic education.
1143
01:01:11,046 --> 01:01:12,669
I remembered how a
friend of mine once said
1144
01:01:12,738 --> 01:01:16,017
that we all have different
dreams, yet most of them
1145
01:01:16,086 --> 01:01:19,192
will never come true,
like flying to the moon.
1146
01:01:19,261 --> 01:01:21,608
Having a child was
his unreachable dream.
1147
01:01:21,678 --> 01:01:24,853
He spent 10 years in prison
and was HIV positive.
1148
01:01:24,922 --> 01:01:28,029
But then a miracle happened
and he adopted a child.
1149
01:01:28,098 --> 01:01:29,513
Now when he looks
at other parents
1150
01:01:29,582 --> 01:01:32,619
with other kids he thinks
they don't realize how lucky
1151
01:01:32,689 --> 01:01:33,828
they are.
1152
01:01:33,897 --> 01:01:36,693
And when I look around,
I also wonder how can
1153
01:01:36,762 --> 01:01:40,593
so many people take their
children for granted like this.
1154
01:01:40,662 --> 01:01:43,251
[driving music]
1155
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,748
- That's where I
live right in that
1156
01:01:57,817 --> 01:02:00,993
apartment right there, 1C.
1157
01:02:01,062 --> 01:02:02,649
It was-- it was full of people
1158
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:05,514
out here just
hanging out you know.
1159
01:02:05,583 --> 01:02:07,689
There's always activity outside.
1160
01:02:07,758 --> 01:02:10,381
There's always something
can jump off like violence,
1161
01:02:10,450 --> 01:02:13,695
someone's going to you
know get into a fight.
1162
01:02:13,764 --> 01:02:17,250
At times you even had people
throwing stuff off the roof,
1163
01:02:17,319 --> 01:02:20,529
you know, cans or
Molotov cocktails.
1164
01:02:20,598 --> 01:02:25,189
I remember just having friends
from school that didn't know
1165
01:02:25,258 --> 01:02:27,571
where I lived and they
would drop me off here.
1166
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,642
And they would say, "Oh
my gosh, you live there?"
1167
01:02:29,711 --> 01:02:30,885
And I was like why?
1168
01:02:30,954 --> 01:02:35,579
It's nothing wrong, you
know, everyone knows me.
1169
01:02:35,648 --> 01:02:37,408
But the thing was
there wasn't a lot
1170
01:02:37,477 --> 01:02:40,515
of positive male
role models around.
1171
01:02:40,584 --> 01:02:43,449
You know, there was guys
they was talking about
1172
01:02:43,518 --> 01:02:46,107
how they're going to
make money selling weed
1173
01:02:46,176 --> 01:02:50,214
or they trying to
commit a burglary
1174
01:02:50,283 --> 01:02:51,975
or robberies you know.
1175
01:02:52,044 --> 01:02:56,669
It wasn't too much about like,
"How do I get into college?"
1176
01:02:56,738 --> 01:02:58,844
- [Michael] Chris did
go to college and went
1177
01:02:58,913 --> 01:03:00,397
on to join the police force.
1178
01:03:00,466 --> 01:03:03,227
He has even become Police
Officer of the Year,
1179
01:03:03,296 --> 01:03:04,781
but arresting didn't feel right.
1180
01:03:04,850 --> 01:03:07,300
He wanted to prevent people
from committing crimes
1181
01:03:07,369 --> 01:03:08,992
so he became a youth officer.
1182
01:03:09,061 --> 01:03:13,617
- And this one here I'm
most proud of because never
1183
01:03:13,686 --> 01:03:18,380
in a 100 years would I believe
that I would get an award
1184
01:03:18,449 --> 01:03:21,211
when I was a youngster
to get an award
1185
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,695
with working with the youth.
1186
01:03:22,764 --> 01:03:26,250
I'm very happy to-- I'm very
honored and humbled to get
1187
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:28,321
that award, because
I believe that's
1188
01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:33,810
where, you know, I was
created to work with kids.
1189
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:38,055
My dream growing up
was, you know, is
1190
01:03:38,124 --> 01:03:39,470
what I saw, what I
1191
01:03:39,539 --> 01:03:42,128
want to have a kid out here.
1192
01:03:42,197 --> 01:03:44,303
I want to have an apartment.
1193
01:03:44,372 --> 01:03:47,340
The government-- I don't
really have to work.
1194
01:03:47,409 --> 01:03:49,756
The government is going
to pay for my apartment.
1195
01:03:49,826 --> 01:03:53,622
If I want food, they
have food stamps.
1196
01:03:53,691 --> 01:03:56,763
So it-- I wasn't really
around you know--
1197
01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:59,421
it was what I, I was a
product of the environment.
1198
01:03:59,490 --> 01:04:01,458
It was what I saw
and that's basically
1199
01:04:01,527 --> 01:04:04,944
what I wanted for my life.
1200
01:04:07,153 --> 01:04:10,777
I would say 90 percent of
the ones that got in trouble,
1201
01:04:10,847 --> 01:04:13,815
they had no father
figure around.
1202
01:04:13,884 --> 01:04:17,577
A lot of my friends
here-- unfortunately some
1203
01:04:17,646 --> 01:04:19,821
of them have been arrested.
1204
01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:25,033
Almost all of those guys
never, never made it out here
1205
01:04:25,102 --> 01:04:27,173
or they passed away,
1206
01:04:27,242 --> 01:04:29,658
or they got caught up in drugs.
1207
01:04:29,727 --> 01:04:34,422
They took some drugs and it
took a physical effect on them.
1208
01:04:34,491 --> 01:04:35,906
The awards look great,
1209
01:04:35,975 --> 01:04:38,667
but behind those awards was
a lot of, a lot of anger.
1210
01:04:38,736 --> 01:04:41,325
Like I said, everything was
dealt with with violence.
1211
01:04:41,394 --> 01:04:44,570
So I felt like, what in
order for me to clean
1212
01:04:44,639 --> 01:04:49,057
up the streets, I have
to arrest everybody.
1213
01:04:49,126 --> 01:04:50,610
- I've been to prison before.
1214
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:53,130
You know, I've been to prison
1215
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:55,961
and I made wrong choices too,
1216
01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:58,032
but I wouldn't, I wanted--
1217
01:04:58,101 --> 01:05:00,206
you know I explained that
to him to let him know.
1218
01:05:00,275 --> 01:05:02,105
And the choices
that I made I had to
1219
01:05:02,174 --> 01:05:03,830
suffer the consequences.
1220
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:08,352
And I guess as him growing
up I was never away from him.
1221
01:05:08,421 --> 01:05:09,975
And I guess when
I went to prison
1222
01:05:10,044 --> 01:05:14,082
for two years probably
put an impact on him.
1223
01:05:14,151 --> 01:05:16,360
- [Olga] So you're from a
family of how many kids?
1224
01:05:16,429 --> 01:05:18,190
- A family of seven.
1225
01:05:18,259 --> 01:05:19,432
- Seven.
1226
01:05:19,501 --> 01:05:21,262
- Four brothers and
two sisters and I'm
1227
01:05:21,331 --> 01:05:24,541
like the middle child, yeah.
1228
01:05:24,610 --> 01:05:25,714
- Did they finish school?
1229
01:05:25,783 --> 01:05:27,302
- No see, that's
what I'm saying.
1230
01:05:27,371 --> 01:05:30,581
When we was-- we all
chose the wrong path.
1231
01:05:30,650 --> 01:05:32,998
And then when I had
Kiyon I'm looking at him.
1232
01:05:33,067 --> 01:05:37,795
I want him to break the
cycle to not repeat,
1233
01:05:37,864 --> 01:05:40,626
to be successful with
his self because he look
1234
01:05:40,695 --> 01:05:42,110
at his uncles and cousins.
1235
01:05:42,179 --> 01:05:43,456
None of them finished school.
1236
01:05:43,525 --> 01:05:46,425
None of them have a
high school diploma.
1237
01:05:46,494 --> 01:05:48,116
They don't have good jobs.
1238
01:05:48,185 --> 01:05:51,499
- [Olga] How many of you get
in problems with the police?
1239
01:05:51,568 --> 01:05:54,191
How many of you get in prison?
1240
01:05:54,260 --> 01:05:55,779
- Out of my sisters
and brothers?
1241
01:05:55,848 --> 01:05:57,022
- Yeah.
1242
01:05:57,091 --> 01:05:58,609
- All of us.
1243
01:05:58,678 --> 01:06:01,992
Excuse me, all of
us, yeah. [laughs]
1244
01:06:02,061 --> 01:06:04,684
You know it's not funny
but all of us you know.
1245
01:06:04,753 --> 01:06:08,136
Because like I said,
we made bad decisions.
1246
01:06:08,205 --> 01:06:09,793
You know I don't
have no regrets.
1247
01:06:09,862 --> 01:06:13,279
You know 'cause I'm trying to
do the best I can you know.
1248
01:06:13,348 --> 01:06:15,074
I am a good mother.
1249
01:06:15,143 --> 01:06:16,041
- You are, yeah.
1250
01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:17,249
- I try to do the best I can.
1251
01:06:17,318 --> 01:06:18,733
- [Olga] If there is one
thing that you can fix
1252
01:06:18,802 --> 01:06:21,046
in your life, what would it be?
1253
01:06:21,115 --> 01:06:23,600
- To be employed.
1254
01:06:23,669 --> 01:06:28,432
If I can just be
employed and show my son
1255
01:06:28,501 --> 01:06:32,540
and daughter that it's better.
1256
01:06:32,609 --> 01:06:33,990
- But how can you get it?
1257
01:06:34,059 --> 01:06:37,924
How can you get it, I mean
why didn't you get it?
1258
01:06:37,994 --> 01:06:41,514
- Because like I told you
I was a single mother.
1259
01:06:41,583 --> 01:06:45,070
You know running around
with the wrong crowd too.
1260
01:06:45,139 --> 01:06:48,073
I, excuse me.
1261
01:06:48,142 --> 01:06:49,212
- It's okay.
1262
01:06:49,281 --> 01:06:50,868
When people cry,
it's a good sign.
1263
01:06:50,937 --> 01:06:53,423
It means that we
are still human.
1264
01:06:55,356 --> 01:06:59,429
- Just ran around
with the wrong crowd
1265
01:06:59,498 --> 01:07:02,604
and made the wrong decisions.
1266
01:07:07,506 --> 01:07:10,095
- The thing that I learned
most from reporting
1267
01:07:10,164 --> 01:07:12,994
on three low income families
1268
01:07:13,063 --> 01:07:16,756
over seven years,
was the importance
1269
01:07:16,825 --> 01:07:20,967
of having responsible
men in their lives.
1270
01:07:21,037 --> 01:07:24,143
Pretty much without
exception part of what's--
1271
01:07:24,212 --> 01:07:26,801
this isn't just me talking,
but part of what impressed me
1272
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:30,391
so much was that they could
articulate it, both the women
1273
01:07:30,460 --> 01:07:32,117
and their children
talked of wishing--
1274
01:07:32,186 --> 01:07:34,360
the women wished they had
a father in their own lives
1275
01:07:34,429 --> 01:07:36,224
when they were kids and they
wished they had a responsible
1276
01:07:36,293 --> 01:07:37,708
partner in their lives now.
1277
01:07:37,777 --> 01:07:39,158
And the kids talked about
missing their father.
1278
01:07:39,227 --> 01:07:41,229
One of the fathers of the
family I was following was
1279
01:07:41,298 --> 01:07:42,679
in prison for life.
1280
01:07:42,748 --> 01:07:45,509
- Studies show that crime is
linked to children born outside
1281
01:07:45,578 --> 01:07:48,685
of marriage, that you have
much higher crime rates
1282
01:07:48,754 --> 01:07:54,656
from children born where
the father is absent,
1283
01:07:54,725 --> 01:07:56,175
there's nobody
to discipline them.
1284
01:07:56,244 --> 01:07:59,040
So really the more
entrepreneurial ones are then
1285
01:07:59,109 --> 01:08:01,146
the ones who might do very
well if they're raised
1286
01:08:01,215 --> 01:08:02,526
in a middle class culture,
1287
01:08:02,595 --> 01:08:05,115
devote their entrepreneurial
instincts to crime,
1288
01:08:05,184 --> 01:08:07,600
because you know that is
the business they can see
1289
01:08:07,669 --> 01:08:09,637
in their neighborhood.
1290
01:08:09,706 --> 01:08:11,087
They don't expect to work
1291
01:08:11,156 --> 01:08:14,676
because they get the subsistence
paid for by the government.
1292
01:08:14,745 --> 01:08:16,161
So you see how this begins
1293
01:08:16,230 --> 01:08:19,336
to affect all the cultural
attitudes that you see,
1294
01:08:19,405 --> 01:08:22,028
all the cultural
practices that you see.
1295
01:08:22,098 --> 01:08:23,651
- There's a big
educational divide,
1296
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,863
so people with four year
college degrees are marrying
1297
01:08:28,932 --> 01:08:31,486
and staying married
as much or more
1298
01:08:31,555 --> 01:08:33,868
than they were 20 years ago.
1299
01:08:33,937 --> 01:08:36,181
People without four
year college degrees
1300
01:08:36,250 --> 01:08:37,354
are having increasingly
1301
01:08:37,423 --> 01:08:39,011
having children
outside of marriage.
1302
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:45,190
A big gap has grown up
between the educational haves
1303
01:08:45,259 --> 01:08:47,192
and the educational have-nots.
1304
01:08:47,261 --> 01:08:50,850
[driving]
1305
01:09:01,309 --> 01:09:05,520
- I got evicted, lost my housing
so I had nowhere else to go
1306
01:09:05,589 --> 01:09:10,249
so I wound up here and
it's where I've been.
1307
01:09:11,285 --> 01:09:12,493
- [Michael] Do you have kids?
1308
01:09:12,562 --> 01:09:14,978
- I have five boys.
- [Michael] Five boys.
1309
01:09:15,047 --> 01:09:18,775
- Yeah, and sometimes I need
to go see them but I don't have
1310
01:09:18,844 --> 01:09:20,570
like transportation to
get there to go see them
1311
01:09:20,639 --> 01:09:22,951
and it's hard you know.
1312
01:09:24,608 --> 01:09:27,301
- [Michael] Your
early pregnancy, did
1313
01:09:27,370 --> 01:09:28,233
- Yeah.
1314
01:09:28,302 --> 01:09:29,544
- [Michael] How?
1315
01:09:29,613 --> 01:09:31,891
- Because it stopped me
from going to school.
1316
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,618
A lot of, a lot of women
the first child especially
1317
01:09:34,687 --> 01:09:37,138
if you school or you
got a career going on,
1318
01:09:37,207 --> 01:09:38,691
that sets you back,
1319
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,866
because you got to
put the baby first.
1320
01:09:40,935 --> 01:09:42,661
You know you go to take
care of that child.
1321
01:09:42,730 --> 01:09:45,422
You know some things,
you have a child some
things that you used
1322
01:09:45,491 --> 01:09:46,561
to do you can't do it no more.
1323
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:47,942
You got to put it
aside you know,
1324
01:09:48,011 --> 01:09:50,116
to take care of that child.
1325
01:09:53,361 --> 01:09:56,606
[silence]
1326
01:09:58,263 --> 01:10:00,713
- Well, when you live an
entire culture of poverty
1327
01:10:00,782 --> 01:10:04,027
where nobody really is
working consistently,
1328
01:10:04,096 --> 01:10:05,649
nobody is really
getting married,
1329
01:10:05,718 --> 01:10:08,273
the children are all
born outside of marriage,
1330
01:10:08,342 --> 01:10:10,344
everybody thinks that's
a normal thing to do.
1331
01:10:10,413 --> 01:10:15,003
And so you're creating
culturally reinforcing attitudes
1332
01:10:15,072 --> 01:10:16,142
that reinforce the incentives.
1333
01:10:16,212 --> 01:10:18,144
- The share of
children being born
1334
01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:20,768
to single mothers is now
higher than it's ever been.
1335
01:10:20,837 --> 01:10:24,150
So in that sense the [inaudible]
was a huge disappointment.
1336
01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:25,876
- And what is
percentage if you know?
1337
01:10:25,945 --> 01:10:27,809
- Nationwide--
- Yeah.
1338
01:10:27,878 --> 01:10:30,950
- About 42 percent of children
are born to single mothers now.
1339
01:10:31,019 --> 01:10:33,229
- It's income-based so
you need a low income.
1340
01:10:33,298 --> 01:10:37,854
If you have more children then
you qualify for more benefits
1341
01:10:37,923 --> 01:10:42,168
and so as a result you get
low income and more children,
1342
01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:44,274
because that's what
you're paying for.
1343
01:10:44,343 --> 01:10:47,553
- Angel Adams says her
children are a gift from God,
1344
01:10:47,622 --> 01:10:49,935
but now she needs
help caring for them.
1345
01:10:50,004 --> 01:10:53,663
Adams has 15 children, 12
who are now living with her
1346
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:55,216
in this small motel room.
1347
01:10:55,285 --> 01:11:00,117
- Somebody needs to pay for
all my children and mine
1348
01:11:00,186 --> 01:11:03,776
and Gary all our suffering,
all our pain, somebody needs
1349
01:11:03,845 --> 01:11:06,917
to be held accountable
and they need to pay.
1350
01:11:06,986 --> 01:11:09,126
- We know from substantial
research in the United States
1351
01:11:09,195 --> 01:11:13,890
that even a year in poverty
can have long-term consequences
1352
01:11:13,959 --> 01:11:15,823
for a child's development.
1353
01:11:15,892 --> 01:11:17,963
- [Michael] In just one year?
- Yes.
1354
01:11:18,032 --> 01:11:21,691
- It's going to create a whole
cycle of poverty and violence
1355
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,487
because if you have
let's say 8, 10 kids
1356
01:11:24,556 --> 01:11:25,936
and you can't afford
1357
01:11:26,005 --> 01:11:29,492
to give them the proper
shoes, the proper clothes,
1358
01:11:29,561 --> 01:11:31,839
the equipment that they need
1359
01:11:31,908 --> 01:11:33,841
for school or sports,
1360
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:35,739
if the kid doesn't have good
values, they're going to get
1361
01:11:35,808 --> 01:11:38,501
that money from
robbing somebody,
1362
01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:42,574
from selling drugs
or stealing it.
1363
01:11:42,643 --> 01:11:45,404
And now that kid is
going to get introduced
1364
01:11:45,473 --> 01:11:50,271
to the criminal justice system
and it's going to be a cycle.
1365
01:11:52,894 --> 01:11:57,209
Well, Brandon, he
wants to change.
1366
01:11:57,278 --> 01:12:00,212
You know, you can talk to kids,
but they will listen to you
1367
01:12:00,281 --> 01:12:03,249
and they don't want
to really do he work.
1368
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:07,806
He wants to do the work and
I see that he has this desire
1369
01:12:07,875 --> 01:12:11,361
to get out, and
why not help him?
1370
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:12,776
He's part of the community.
1371
01:12:12,845 --> 01:12:16,435
- If you're not getting
love from your household,
1372
01:12:16,504 --> 01:12:18,920
obviously you're going to
get up and go outside and try
1373
01:12:18,989 --> 01:12:21,164
to find it from your
friends, you know.
1374
01:12:21,233 --> 01:12:23,373
And if your friends is
bad influence and they're
1375
01:12:23,442 --> 01:12:25,582
into doing stuff like
that, you're going to jump
1376
01:12:25,651 --> 01:12:28,689
on the wagon and want to
do bad stuff too, you know.
1377
01:12:28,758 --> 01:12:30,484
- Yeah.
1378
01:12:30,553 --> 01:12:33,349
- My dream is to be alive by 25.
1379
01:12:34,902 --> 01:12:36,144
- Who's your role model?
1380
01:12:36,213 --> 01:12:37,767
Who is the person
you look up at?
1381
01:12:37,836 --> 01:12:42,427
- Honestly, I don't
have one at all, at all.
1382
01:12:42,496 --> 01:12:43,669
I couldn't even say my father.
1383
01:12:43,738 --> 01:12:45,878
My father was
never there for me.
1384
01:12:45,947 --> 01:12:47,639
So I can't-- I don't
have one, I don't.
1385
01:12:47,708 --> 01:12:49,365
And my big brother
has been in jail
1386
01:12:49,434 --> 01:12:51,712
for all his teenage life.
1387
01:12:51,781 --> 01:12:53,955
So, myself bitch.
1388
01:12:54,024 --> 01:12:55,163
You got to look in the mirror
1389
01:12:55,232 --> 01:12:57,752
and I see my role model
in my own reflection.
1390
01:12:57,821 --> 01:12:59,616
- Do you want to
have your own family?
1391
01:12:59,685 --> 01:13:04,241
- Yeah, of course.
I should be having a baby
pretty soon, on the way.
1392
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:06,278
- You're going to have
a baby pretty soon?
1393
01:13:06,347 --> 01:13:07,348
- Yeah.
1394
01:13:07,417 --> 01:13:08,453
- Cool. How old are you?
1395
01:13:08,522 --> 01:13:09,557
- Sixteen.
1396
01:13:09,626 --> 01:13:11,456
- Congrats.
1397
01:13:11,525 --> 01:13:12,664
- It's going to be hard,
1398
01:13:12,733 --> 01:13:15,701
but I'm not going
to quit on my child.
1399
01:13:15,770 --> 01:13:17,185
That's my child like--
1400
01:13:17,254 --> 01:13:20,706
- How do you see yourself
when you make it to 25?
1401
01:13:20,775 --> 01:13:22,225
And I'm pretty sure you will.
1402
01:13:22,294 --> 01:13:25,193
- I'm going to have
like five jobs.
1403
01:13:25,262 --> 01:13:26,229
- Five jobs?
1404
01:13:26,298 --> 01:13:27,368
- Yeah.
1405
01:13:27,437 --> 01:13:29,059
- I'm going to
have a nice little,
1406
01:13:29,128 --> 01:13:31,752
a nice little studio crib.
1407
01:13:31,821 --> 01:13:34,651
You know I like to
rap sometimes too.
1408
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,308
So, y'all have never
seen me rapping.
1409
01:13:36,377 --> 01:13:40,657
Honestly, I don't like
rapping in front of people,
1410
01:13:40,726 --> 01:13:46,352
like I will have like three
cars, wild girls you know.
1411
01:13:47,906 --> 01:13:51,910
I'll have like five
stripper poles in my house.
1412
01:13:51,979 --> 01:13:55,085
You know calls some
strippers over [inaudible].
1413
01:13:55,154 --> 01:13:58,813
And you know I'll just
live the lavish lifestyle.
1414
01:13:58,882 --> 01:14:01,506
I don't, I'm tired of
being at the bottom.
1415
01:14:01,575 --> 01:14:03,024
I mean--
1416
01:14:03,093 --> 01:14:05,233
- [Olga] So this is your dream
when you are making to 25?
1417
01:14:05,302 --> 01:14:07,650
- Yeah, I want to make lots
of money, you could say that.
1418
01:14:07,719 --> 01:14:09,617
- [Olga] Now what I didn't see
1419
01:14:09,686 --> 01:14:13,587
when you are 25 is your
nine-year-old baby, yeah.
1420
01:14:13,656 --> 01:14:14,380
- Oh yeah.
1421
01:14:14,450 --> 01:14:15,140
- Where is your--
1422
01:14:15,209 --> 01:14:16,624
- Oh yeah, I forgot.
1423
01:14:16,693 --> 01:14:17,901
- Sorry about it, oh.
1424
01:14:18,971 --> 01:14:21,905
So was it a planned baby
or it just happened?
1425
01:14:21,974 --> 01:14:23,769
- It just happened.
1426
01:14:23,838 --> 01:14:24,943
It's life.
1427
01:14:25,012 --> 01:14:27,946
[electronic music]
1428
01:14:44,307 --> 01:14:47,724
[machines]
1429
01:14:47,793 --> 01:14:51,072
[electronic music]
1430
01:14:58,390 --> 01:15:01,876
- Hi.
- Oh, finally, finally
we met, very good.
1431
01:15:01,945 --> 01:15:03,740
- How are you?
- Good. Come on in.
1432
01:15:03,809 --> 01:15:07,364
- Thank you very much.
- Advocates for Youth was
established in 1980 and the work
1433
01:15:07,433 --> 01:15:10,851
that we do is to champion
policies and programs
1434
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,404
that help young
people make informed
1435
01:15:12,473 --> 01:15:14,613
and responsible
decisions about sex.
1436
01:15:14,682 --> 01:15:16,995
- When we are talking
about a teenage pregnancy,
1437
01:15:17,064 --> 01:15:19,100
how big is the problem?
What are the numbers?
1438
01:15:19,169 --> 01:15:21,344
Is it a problem at all
for the United States?
1439
01:15:21,413 --> 01:15:24,071
- Well, the United States
has a pretty large problem
1440
01:15:24,140 --> 01:15:25,590
in teenage pregnancy.
1441
01:15:25,659 --> 01:15:29,076
If you look at the numbers,
we have 10,000 young people
1442
01:15:29,145 --> 01:15:32,320
everyday that get a sexually
transmitted disease,
1443
01:15:32,389 --> 01:15:37,256
2500 get pregnant and
another 25 get HIV.
1444
01:15:37,325 --> 01:15:39,707
So, this is a big number.
1445
01:15:39,776 --> 01:15:42,296
The rates of teenage pregnancy
and birth have gone down,
1446
01:15:42,365 --> 01:15:46,127
but it's still the highest of
any industrialized country.
1447
01:15:46,196 --> 01:15:48,751
The teen pregnancy rate
is about five times
1448
01:15:48,820 --> 01:15:52,064
that of Germany or France.
1449
01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:53,894
The teen birth rate
is about eight times
1450
01:15:53,963 --> 01:15:55,205
that of the Netherlands.
1451
01:15:55,274 --> 01:15:57,898
The teen gonorrhea
rate is about 400 times
1452
01:15:57,967 --> 01:15:59,071
that of the Netherlands.
1453
01:15:59,140 --> 01:16:02,212
We sell everything
from, you know,
1454
01:16:02,281 --> 01:16:04,456
hamburgers to cars with sex.
1455
01:16:04,525 --> 01:16:07,217
And I think the most
important thing is
1456
01:16:07,286 --> 01:16:08,529
that young people need
1457
01:16:08,598 --> 01:16:11,705
to learn to think
critically for themselves
1458
01:16:11,774 --> 01:16:14,811
and really challenge some
of what they're seeing
1459
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,882
so that they can address issues
1460
01:16:16,951 --> 01:16:18,643
as they see them on the media
1461
01:16:18,712 --> 01:16:21,887
and think through why is,
1462
01:16:21,956 --> 01:16:24,649
why is it that we
don't have condom ads?
1463
01:16:24,718 --> 01:16:26,547
What is the society telling us
1464
01:16:26,616 --> 01:16:28,998
and how is it affecting
the way I behave?
1465
01:16:29,067 --> 01:16:31,207
On the one hand, we see sex
1466
01:16:31,276 --> 01:16:32,726
and everything is so sexualized,
1467
01:16:32,795 --> 01:16:35,487
and then on the other hand
you're telling me just say no.
1468
01:16:35,556 --> 01:16:41,148
It becomes a very difficult
sort of thing to navigate.
1469
01:16:42,252 --> 01:16:43,702
So often a young person
1470
01:16:43,771 --> 01:16:47,292
who finds themselves pregnant
might hide that pregnancy
1471
01:16:47,361 --> 01:16:50,157
for a very long time before
she's willing to share it
1472
01:16:50,226 --> 01:16:51,952
with a parent or another person.
1473
01:16:52,021 --> 01:16:54,264
We know that about 40
percent of young people
1474
01:16:54,333 --> 01:16:57,682
who find themselves
pregnant do choose abortion
1475
01:16:57,751 --> 01:17:01,237
and the rest by and
large keep the child.
1476
01:17:01,306 --> 01:17:03,964
There's very, a very,
very small percentage
1477
01:17:04,033 --> 01:17:07,208
that give their babies
up for adoption.
1478
01:17:07,277 --> 01:17:08,416
- [Michael] This is Brianna.
1479
01:17:08,485 --> 01:17:10,660
Having got pregnant
at 17 years old,
1480
01:17:10,729 --> 01:17:11,868
she became one of the few
1481
01:17:11,937 --> 01:17:13,525
who was able to put her
child up for adoption.
1482
01:17:13,594 --> 01:17:16,148
- Just make sure.
- I know this one
was my favorite one.
1483
01:17:16,217 --> 01:17:17,909
I was pretty sure that I didn't
want to have an abortion,
1484
01:17:17,978 --> 01:17:21,326
that I wanted to place
him for adoption.
1485
01:17:21,395 --> 01:17:26,400
But my mom was not so sure
as I was, so she wanted me
1486
01:17:26,469 --> 01:17:28,851
to come back to New
York and go to a doctor
1487
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,369
and you know hear about it
1488
01:17:30,438 --> 01:17:31,957
and try and keep an open mind
1489
01:17:32,026 --> 01:17:33,752
and consider having an abortion.
1490
01:17:33,821 --> 01:17:36,686
So I did go to the
doctor and that's kind of
1491
01:17:36,755 --> 01:17:38,101
when it was final for me,
1492
01:17:38,170 --> 01:17:41,311
because I was almost three
months when I found out.
1493
01:17:41,380 --> 01:17:42,899
So just you know, I
went to the doctor
1494
01:17:42,968 --> 01:17:45,937
and he told me what the
procedure is to have an abortion
1495
01:17:46,006 --> 01:17:48,284
and I saw the sonogram and I
saw his little heart beating
1496
01:17:48,353 --> 01:17:52,564
and you know that was it.
So that kind of--
1497
01:17:52,633 --> 01:17:54,670
I grew up without a lot
of stability in my life,
1498
01:17:54,739 --> 01:17:57,638
sort of moving around forever,
so I wanted him
1499
01:17:57,707 --> 01:18:01,953
to be with people who
just were very solid.
1500
01:18:02,022 --> 01:18:04,783
When I found his
parents through Spence,
1501
01:18:04,852 --> 01:18:09,270
Sarah and Carlos are
their names, I just loved
1502
01:18:09,339 --> 01:18:13,481
that they were so open to
him being whoever he is.
1503
01:18:13,550 --> 01:18:16,346
- [Olga] Did you feel like at
certain stages of your pregnancy
1504
01:18:16,415 --> 01:18:20,523
that you wanted to change
your mind and keep the child?
1505
01:18:20,592 --> 01:18:23,181
- I mean there definitely were
moments when I was like oh,
1506
01:18:23,250 --> 01:18:25,286
it would be so great
you know and sort of
1507
01:18:25,355 --> 01:18:27,392
my guilty pleasure was like
when I was out in public
1508
01:18:27,461 --> 01:18:29,428
and like talking to people.
1509
01:18:29,497 --> 01:18:30,878
I wouldn't tell them that
he was going to be adopted.
1510
01:18:30,947 --> 01:18:33,225
Like I got to sort of savor
that and be like yeah,
1511
01:18:33,294 --> 01:18:35,572
I'm so excited he's
going to be born.
1512
01:18:35,641 --> 01:18:39,438
But it was just so clear
from the very beginning
1513
01:18:39,507 --> 01:18:42,269
that it just wasn't an option.
1514
01:18:42,338 --> 01:18:44,616
And I just, whenever that
happened I just had to sort
1515
01:18:44,685 --> 01:18:46,204
of be able to recognize
in myself that that was
1516
01:18:46,273 --> 01:18:48,620
like the selfish part
of me being like,
no, I want to keep him,
1517
01:18:48,689 --> 01:18:52,175
and that it really just
wasn't what was best for him.
1518
01:18:52,244 --> 01:18:54,799
His Irish eyes, like
mine and his eyelashes.
1519
01:18:54,868 --> 01:18:59,320
The joy so overwhelms
how painful it was.
1520
01:19:01,978 --> 01:19:06,327
And as far as how painful I
thought it was going to be,
1521
01:19:06,396 --> 01:19:10,055
I think I prepared myself as
best as someone can be prepared
1522
01:19:10,124 --> 01:19:11,194
for that kind of thing.
1523
01:19:11,263 --> 01:19:13,265
And I love his adoptive
parents so much
1524
01:19:13,334 --> 01:19:15,474
that I just was really at
peace with the decision.
1525
01:19:15,543 --> 01:19:19,237
So, it was painful
but also happy
1526
01:19:19,306 --> 01:19:22,240
because my pain was
for me, not for him.
1527
01:19:22,309 --> 01:19:23,931
I knew that he was
in such good hands
1528
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,899
and what can you want
1529
01:19:25,968 --> 01:19:29,523
besides a healthy, happy baby.
1530
01:19:29,592 --> 01:19:32,664
I was no longer with his father,
1531
01:19:32,733 --> 01:19:35,218
so definitely that
is part of it.
1532
01:19:35,287 --> 01:19:39,498
I wanted him to have
a dad and I think
1533
01:19:39,567 --> 01:19:41,846
that raising a child,
the number one thing
1534
01:19:41,915 --> 01:19:46,298
really is just having a support,
1535
01:19:46,367 --> 01:19:48,197
because no one person you know--
1536
01:19:48,266 --> 01:19:50,337
they say it takes a
village and it's sort
1537
01:19:50,406 --> 01:19:51,752
of cliché, but it's true.
1538
01:19:51,821 --> 01:19:53,719
I really just was alone.
1539
01:19:53,789 --> 01:19:55,480
I don't know, he just
looks so delicate
1540
01:19:55,549 --> 01:19:56,688
and gentle in this picture.
1541
01:19:56,757 --> 01:19:59,691
He's so like white
and puffy and soft.
1542
01:20:02,038 --> 01:20:06,732
I feel like there is a certain
attitude that people take
1543
01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:09,356
and everyone wants to be
positive and everything
1544
01:20:09,425 --> 01:20:10,840
and say like oh, you know--
1545
01:20:10,909 --> 01:20:16,570
and definitely single mothers
are, I'm very impressed
1546
01:20:16,639 --> 01:20:21,471
with them now like having
gone through, but--
1547
01:20:22,956 --> 01:20:25,993
[silence]
1548
01:20:26,062 --> 01:20:28,789
I just don't think that love
really solves everything.
1549
01:20:28,858 --> 01:20:31,412
I feel like people think,
"Oh, if you love your child
1550
01:20:31,481 --> 01:20:33,898
"then everything will
work out and be okay."
1551
01:20:33,967 --> 01:20:36,072
But that's not true,
because if there were
1552
01:20:36,141 --> 01:20:38,178
then there wouldn't be starving
children all over the world,
1553
01:20:38,247 --> 01:20:42,113
or, you know, love just
doesn't feed children
1554
01:20:42,182 --> 01:20:45,530
or buy diapers or any of that.
1555
01:20:45,599 --> 01:20:47,601
So just being in a
place in your life
1556
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:49,361
that you can provide stability
1557
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:51,847
and I couldn't even
provide it for myself.
1558
01:20:52,848 --> 01:20:55,436
[outdoor sounds]
1559
01:20:59,785 --> 01:21:03,410
[traffic]
1560
01:21:04,583 --> 01:21:06,068
- [Olga] When I
think of Brianna,
1561
01:21:06,137 --> 01:21:10,210
I wonder if I would be able
to make such a sacrifice.
1562
01:21:10,279 --> 01:21:13,869
[rhythmic music]
1563
01:21:17,734 --> 01:21:22,601
We drove to Georgia to see
our friends, Jill and Lee.
1564
01:21:23,844 --> 01:21:27,779
They have three kids,
two boys [inaudible]
1565
01:21:27,848 --> 01:21:29,574
and a girl Kiya.
1566
01:21:29,643 --> 01:21:32,715
To us, they are the ultimate
parents to learn from.
1567
01:21:32,784 --> 01:21:35,097
- What happened? That's funny.
1568
01:21:35,166 --> 01:21:36,581
Turn the lights back on.
1569
01:21:36,650 --> 01:21:38,824
I think parenting is probably
one of the hardest jobs.
1570
01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:41,655
You want to have a child.
It's a full-time job.
1571
01:21:41,724 --> 01:21:44,969
Everything that we do, we
do it for our children.
1572
01:21:45,038 --> 01:21:46,832
Maybe just a little bit harder.
1573
01:21:46,902 --> 01:21:48,282
Shake, shake.
1574
01:21:48,351 --> 01:21:51,044
- You know we're both teachers,
so we're dealing with a lot
1575
01:21:51,113 --> 01:21:53,218
of experience dealing with kids,
1576
01:21:53,287 --> 01:21:54,564
teaching and coaching,
1577
01:21:54,633 --> 01:21:55,841
kids from a young
age all the way up.
1578
01:21:55,911 --> 01:21:57,498
We've had a lot of
experience with kids
1579
01:21:57,567 --> 01:21:59,776
and I think we had good
role models around us.
1580
01:21:59,845 --> 01:22:02,641
- And before we had kids
we did talk about what kind
1581
01:22:02,710 --> 01:22:04,436
of child we wanted to raise
1582
01:22:04,505 --> 01:22:05,990
and how are we going
to go about it?
1583
01:22:06,059 --> 01:22:07,508
How do we want to discipline?
1584
01:22:07,577 --> 01:22:08,509
Do we want to spank?
1585
01:22:08,578 --> 01:22:10,822
Do we want to use time-out?
1586
01:22:10,891 --> 01:22:13,514
And these are things that
we wanted to agree on
1587
01:22:13,583 --> 01:22:15,240
before we did have a family,
1588
01:22:15,309 --> 01:22:16,724
because that's very important.
1589
01:22:17,794 --> 01:22:19,175
So as new parents
you're expecting
1590
01:22:19,244 --> 01:22:21,557
to have a healthy child
and you really don't expect
1591
01:22:21,626 --> 01:22:23,731
to have a child
with cerebral palsy,
1592
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,976
with Down Syndrome,
autism now is so prevalent.
1593
01:22:27,045 --> 01:22:29,392
You don't think that I'm going
to have an autistic child.
1594
01:22:29,461 --> 01:22:32,016
Close, good.
1595
01:22:32,085 --> 01:22:34,052
Good girl, you need to swallow.
1596
01:22:34,121 --> 01:22:36,952
We found out pretty early
that she had had brain damage
1597
01:22:37,021 --> 01:22:38,884
so we knew that there were
going to be some issues.
1598
01:22:38,954 --> 01:22:42,612
So we were so excited, you
know, to have our first girl
1599
01:22:42,681 --> 01:22:47,031
and we really didn't know
what was going to lie ahead.
1600
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:48,446
As Kiya got older you start
1601
01:22:48,515 --> 01:22:51,138
to realize, okay, now
she's nine months,
1602
01:22:51,207 --> 01:22:52,691
a year, and she's
not sitting up.
1603
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,763
She's not crawling, and then
the challenges, reality starts
1604
01:22:55,832 --> 01:22:58,387
to set in, the daily
challenges start to set in.
1605
01:22:58,456 --> 01:23:00,837
A year and a half to
build up her calf muscles.
1606
01:23:00,906 --> 01:23:04,496
She has no, like atrophy in
there so she has no muscles.
1607
01:23:04,565 --> 01:23:06,912
- How long did it take
you to accept the fact
1608
01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:10,675
that you have a different
baby or it just--?
1609
01:23:10,744 --> 01:23:13,264
- I don't know, I still haven't.
1610
01:23:13,333 --> 01:23:18,165
I think there's days where I
just go-- I think it's a dream
1611
01:23:18,234 --> 01:23:19,753
and it'll wake up
1612
01:23:19,822 --> 01:23:22,342
and everything will be
like normal so to speak.
1613
01:23:22,411 --> 01:23:26,208
And then I remember that
no, this is my normal
1614
01:23:26,277 --> 01:23:28,279
for however long
it's going to be.
1615
01:23:28,348 --> 01:23:32,800
So there's days where I
think I wish it was different
1616
01:23:32,869 --> 01:23:34,699
but then I think of all
the happiness she's brought
1617
01:23:34,768 --> 01:23:37,184
to our life and how she's
made us realize what love,
1618
01:23:37,253 --> 01:23:40,498
true love is all about and
sacrifice and determination
1619
01:23:40,567 --> 01:23:41,878
and caring about others.
1620
01:23:41,947 --> 01:23:43,915
And I've seen the way
other people have reacted
1621
01:23:43,984 --> 01:23:45,813
to her to help her.
1622
01:23:45,882 --> 01:23:48,678
It makes you feel good inside.
1623
01:23:48,747 --> 01:23:51,336
- She's a lot of work,
you know, driving back
1624
01:23:51,405 --> 01:23:52,855
and forth to therapies.
1625
01:23:52,924 --> 01:23:54,891
She still sleeps
with us at night.
1626
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,962
A lot of times she'll
wake up very scared
1627
01:23:57,032 --> 01:23:58,792
and she doesn't
understand where she is
1628
01:23:58,861 --> 01:24:00,656
or she'll wake up and she
has to go to the bathroom.
1629
01:24:00,725 --> 01:24:04,349
So we'll take her to the
bathroom and she needs that,
1630
01:24:04,418 --> 01:24:06,351
the comfort of having us.
1631
01:24:06,420 --> 01:24:10,769
[playing xylophone]
1632
01:24:10,838 --> 01:24:13,393
The love that we feel for
her, and like Lee said,
1633
01:24:13,462 --> 01:24:16,982
the love that she spreads
around is so deep.
1634
01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:19,123
You can see the love in her eyes
even though she's not talking
1635
01:24:19,192 --> 01:24:21,366
right now, when she looks
at you she just looks right
1636
01:24:21,435 --> 01:24:24,714
into your eyes and
you feel the love.
1637
01:24:28,787 --> 01:24:31,583
Having children no matter
what their disability,
1638
01:24:31,652 --> 01:24:33,965
no matter what their
level of function,
1639
01:24:34,034 --> 01:24:35,967
it's the greatest
joy a parent can have
1640
01:24:36,036 --> 01:24:37,831
when they look back
at you and they smile.
1641
01:24:37,900 --> 01:24:40,316
You realize that it's a
part of you and for people
1642
01:24:40,385 --> 01:24:42,801
who are adopting, we have
friends that have adopted,
1643
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:45,252
they feel that same love
because they've wanted
1644
01:24:45,321 --> 01:24:46,909
to have their own child so bad
1645
01:24:46,978 --> 01:24:49,532
and they realize
that they couldn't.
1646
01:24:49,601 --> 01:24:50,982
And when they get that child
1647
01:24:51,051 --> 01:24:55,159
in their arms, they
know that's their child.
1648
01:24:55,228 --> 01:24:56,988
I would say out of any
thing I want my children
1649
01:24:57,057 --> 01:25:00,164
to love everyone
regardless of race,
1650
01:25:00,233 --> 01:25:01,924
regardless of disability,
1651
01:25:01,993 --> 01:25:04,582
regardless of
homosexuality or hetero--
1652
01:25:04,651 --> 01:25:07,654
I want them to love everyone
and that's something
1653
01:25:07,723 --> 01:25:09,276
that you have to teach them.
1654
01:25:09,345 --> 01:25:10,760
You have to teach them.
1655
01:25:10,829 --> 01:25:12,452
You know they say
you can teach hate
1656
01:25:12,521 --> 01:25:13,694
and you can teach love
1657
01:25:13,763 --> 01:25:15,662
and it starts right now.
1658
01:25:15,731 --> 01:25:17,008
And I think you
guys have that love.
1659
01:25:17,077 --> 01:25:19,493
I see that love and
you'll be awesome parents,
1660
01:25:19,562 --> 01:25:21,426
- very, very good parents.
- We hope so.
1661
01:25:21,495 --> 01:25:23,187
- As long as you still have
that kid in you and you have
1662
01:25:23,256 --> 01:25:25,706
that mother instinct,
you'll be great. I mean--
1663
01:25:25,775 --> 01:25:27,225
- [Voiceover] You
could be waiting.
1664
01:25:28,502 --> 01:25:32,265
- [Voiceover] Every step of the
way is a barrier, a barrier.
1665
01:25:32,334 --> 01:25:36,786
- I don't know exactly why
Nepal particularly closed down
1666
01:25:36,855 --> 01:25:38,857
but I can tell
you that a variety
1667
01:25:38,926 --> 01:25:43,345
of reasons shut adoption
including kind of practices
1668
01:25:43,414 --> 01:25:45,933
that are not ethical.
1669
01:25:46,002 --> 01:25:48,419
There's too much
bribery, too much,
1670
01:25:48,488 --> 01:25:50,628
you know, too many kind of
1671
01:25:50,697 --> 01:25:52,768
untransparent
exchanges of money.
1672
01:25:52,837 --> 01:25:55,184
Sometimes the
bureaucracy takes over
1673
01:25:55,253 --> 01:25:56,220
and then you have children
1674
01:25:56,289 --> 01:25:57,704
who are lost in the bureaucracy
1675
01:25:57,773 --> 01:25:58,877
and so they end up staying
1676
01:25:58,946 --> 01:26:02,743
in their orphanages
longer than they should
1677
01:26:02,812 --> 01:26:04,607
and sometimes so long
1678
01:26:04,676 --> 01:26:07,886
that they're then
not really adoptable.
1679
01:26:07,955 --> 01:26:09,543
Programs have opened and closed.
1680
01:26:09,612 --> 01:26:13,029
Sometimes programs
close because people,
1681
01:26:14,721 --> 01:26:17,206
the country gets a reputation
1682
01:26:17,275 --> 01:26:20,002
of not having a strong
enough domestic program.
1683
01:26:20,071 --> 01:26:22,349
And then there are countries
in the world that are not open
1684
01:26:22,418 --> 01:26:25,249
to international adoption
and there would be nothing
1685
01:26:25,318 --> 01:26:29,114
that we could do because
it wouldn't be about us.
1686
01:26:29,184 --> 01:26:30,944
I believe there are also
countries in the world
1687
01:26:31,013 --> 01:26:32,980
where our government and
their government aren't
1688
01:26:33,049 --> 01:26:34,982
having the best
relations and I'm sure
1689
01:26:35,051 --> 01:26:39,642
that plays a factor
in it as well, yeah.
1690
01:26:39,711 --> 01:26:43,059
[silence]
1691
01:26:45,924 --> 01:26:48,133
- [Michael] Surprisingly for
us, the agency appeared to be
1692
01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:50,998
in the same boat and,
therefore, our ally.
1693
01:26:51,067 --> 01:26:53,035
So they gave us another clue.
1694
01:26:53,104 --> 01:26:55,279
International adoption
has been changed forever
1695
01:26:55,348 --> 01:26:58,903
since the Hague Convention
was implemented in 1995.
1696
01:26:58,972 --> 01:27:01,181
The initial idea was to
protect children's rights
1697
01:27:01,250 --> 01:27:03,701
and to eliminate
child trafficking.
1698
01:27:03,770 --> 01:27:05,910
So they came up with a
series of specific demands
1699
01:27:05,979 --> 01:27:09,914
from legislation for
different countries.
1700
01:27:09,983 --> 01:27:11,847
Four countries failed to
adjust to these requirements
1701
01:27:11,916 --> 01:27:14,263
and were banned from the
international adoption arena
1702
01:27:14,332 --> 01:27:18,302
as they simply didn't have
enough administrative resources.
1703
01:27:18,371 --> 01:27:22,271
UNICEF have their own
vision of the convention.
1704
01:27:22,340 --> 01:27:24,825
They insist the children must
be raised inside their country
1705
01:27:24,894 --> 01:27:30,900
of origin, so they can enjoy
their cultural heritage.
1706
01:27:30,969 --> 01:27:33,040
The process of international
adoption has become
1707
01:27:33,109 --> 01:27:35,940
impossibly complicated,
expensive and entangled.
1708
01:27:36,009 --> 01:27:38,839
Even those few children
who do find a family end up
1709
01:27:38,908 --> 01:27:42,222
spending years trapped
in institutions.
1710
01:27:42,291 --> 01:27:44,983
As long the priority is in
saving culture over the freedom
1711
01:27:45,052 --> 01:27:47,917
of individuals, millions of
children will be locked up
1712
01:27:47,986 --> 01:27:49,816
and we will find
ourselves in a world
1713
01:27:49,885 --> 01:27:52,336
where international
adoption has been prohibited
1714
01:27:52,405 --> 01:27:53,958
and shut down forever.
1715
01:27:54,027 --> 01:27:56,271
[papers being slapped]
1716
01:27:56,340 --> 01:27:59,998
[guitar music]
1717
01:28:07,799 --> 01:28:09,974
- [Olga] Is there any hope?
1718
01:28:11,009 --> 01:28:14,358
Have we come to the
end of the road?
1719
01:28:15,393 --> 01:28:17,775
No, we haven't.
1720
01:28:17,844 --> 01:28:20,571
This is only the
beginning of our journey.
1721
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,506
And we have been left with
more questions than answers.
1722
01:28:24,575 --> 01:28:27,371
But we are not going to give up,
1723
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:28,820
because we know that there is
1724
01:28:28,889 --> 01:28:32,134
at least one adoption agency
that works for children,
1725
01:28:32,203 --> 01:28:34,101
not for governments or adults.
1726
01:28:34,170 --> 01:28:37,726
- Our mission is not about
finding children for families,
1727
01:28:37,795 --> 01:28:40,798
but of finding
families for children.
1728
01:28:40,867 --> 01:28:42,075
- [Olga] And
because we can learn
1729
01:28:42,144 --> 01:28:44,008
from the best parents
what it truly means
1730
01:28:44,077 --> 01:28:46,631
to put your child first.
1731
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:50,325
My child will enter this world
because we as a couple will
1732
01:28:50,394 --> 01:28:54,294
be ready to provide our child
with a healthy and happy life.
1733
01:28:55,502 --> 01:28:58,402
After our interview, Kim
decided to go back to school
1734
01:28:58,471 --> 01:29:01,715
to find a job and become the
role model her children need.
1735
01:29:01,784 --> 01:29:04,580
- I know for sure
this time I'll pass it
1736
01:29:04,649 --> 01:29:09,861
and I just have
faith, that's it.
1737
01:29:09,930 --> 01:29:13,209
- [Olga] Kim hasn't given
up, so neither should we.
1738
01:29:13,278 --> 01:29:15,695
- A-B-C-D-E-F-G.
1739
01:29:15,764 --> 01:29:18,594
- [group singing] A-B-C-D-E-F-G.
1740
01:29:18,663 --> 01:29:22,080
- [Olga] What if to graduate
from school, we all had
1741
01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:24,220
to pass an exam on parenthood.
1742
01:29:24,289 --> 01:29:26,878
- I learned a lot though
in these, in these--
1743
01:29:26,947 --> 01:29:27,879
- I did too.
1744
01:29:27,948 --> 01:29:29,433
- In these
informational seminars.
1745
01:29:29,502 --> 01:29:30,848
It was certainly worth it.
1746
01:29:30,917 --> 01:29:32,712
- [Olga] An exam that
all adoptive parents have
1747
01:29:32,781 --> 01:29:34,955
to go through anyway.
1748
01:29:35,024 --> 01:29:37,855
- So I am thrilled to
see everybody here today.
1749
01:29:37,924 --> 01:29:39,719
I know that we all
have some self--
1750
01:29:39,788 --> 01:29:41,306
- [Olga] Maybe then
everyone could learn
1751
01:29:41,376 --> 01:29:44,344
what it really means
to be ready for kids.
1752
01:29:44,413 --> 01:29:46,898
- Also it helps the
child understand why
1753
01:29:46,967 --> 01:29:48,175
they're different.
1754
01:29:48,244 --> 01:29:49,453
- And that it's okay.
If you talk about--
1755
01:29:49,522 --> 01:29:51,731
- [Olga] Before taking
on the responsibility
1756
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,734
of creating a new life.
1757
01:29:54,803 --> 01:29:56,218
- But it's a big step.
1758
01:29:56,287 --> 01:30:00,015
You have to think about
the financial implications,
1759
01:30:00,084 --> 01:30:03,087
whether you're young, too
young or too immature.
1760
01:30:03,156 --> 01:30:06,331
You have to think about
the child, not yourself.
1761
01:30:06,401 --> 01:30:07,712
What is going to happen
1762
01:30:07,781 --> 01:30:10,059
to this child once we
bring him into the world?
1763
01:30:10,128 --> 01:30:11,820
- [Olga] And if we
would all do this,
1764
01:30:11,889 --> 01:30:15,133
no child would be
thrown onto the streets.
1765
01:30:15,202 --> 01:30:18,205
- Different stories,
why do people have kids?
1766
01:30:18,274 --> 01:30:22,831
- [Olga] And no parent's anger
would cause so much hurt.
1767
01:30:22,900 --> 01:30:24,626
All kids would have role models
1768
01:30:24,695 --> 01:30:26,144
and we could break the cycle.
1769
01:30:26,213 --> 01:30:28,733
- With those things it's the
social emotional piece that's a
1770
01:30:28,802 --> 01:30:30,183
real challenge now.
1771
01:30:30,252 --> 01:30:34,049
- [Olga] Education has to be
the first step to change it all.
1772
01:30:34,118 --> 01:30:35,878
- Family is more than blood.
1773
01:30:35,947 --> 01:30:37,570
- [Olga] And I know
where I must start.
1774
01:30:37,639 --> 01:30:39,123
- You have created a family.
1775
01:30:39,192 --> 01:30:40,918
- [Olga] I'm must
start with myself.
1776
01:30:40,987 --> 01:30:43,334
- These people are non-related
by blood and biology.
1777
01:30:43,403 --> 01:30:44,991
- [Olga] Even after
everything we've been
1778
01:30:45,060 --> 01:30:48,097
through we still have
much to discover.
1779
01:30:48,166 --> 01:30:50,203
And if you are ready
to have two kids
1780
01:30:50,272 --> 01:30:52,895
in a world with
millions of orphans,
1781
01:30:52,964 --> 01:30:54,241
why not adopt one?
1782
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:56,968
- Letting down worldwide
millions of children.
1783
01:30:57,037 --> 01:30:58,660
- [Olga] Until the
fear of our differences
1784
01:30:58,729 --> 01:31:00,247
has finally been overcome,
1785
01:31:00,316 --> 01:31:03,527
there will always be children
who can't find a loving home.
1786
01:31:03,596 --> 01:31:05,460
- They're damaged because
they've never had this.
1787
01:31:05,529 --> 01:31:07,979
They've never been held on a
regular basis and made to feel
1788
01:31:08,048 --> 01:31:10,913
- that bond that you feel.
- I don't know about you--
1789
01:31:10,982 --> 01:31:12,397
- [Olga] But until we
start having kids only
1790
01:31:12,467 --> 01:31:17,195
when we are ready, there
will always be victims.
1791
01:31:19,508 --> 01:31:23,788
These victims are the dreams
of millions of children.
1792
01:31:23,857 --> 01:31:25,445
- I want to be doctor.
1793
01:31:25,514 --> 01:31:28,448
- [Olga] Dreams that
will never come true.
1794
01:31:31,624 --> 01:31:33,349
- Teacher.
1795
01:31:35,593 --> 01:31:37,422
- Pilot.
1796
01:31:39,908 --> 01:31:41,910
- I want to be a teacher.
1797
01:31:43,256 --> 01:31:45,361
- I want to be artist.
1798
01:31:46,984 --> 01:31:49,124
- I want to be dancer.
1799
01:31:51,540 --> 01:31:53,231
- Doctor.
1800
01:31:55,406 --> 01:31:56,476
- Singer.
1801
01:31:56,545 --> 01:31:59,065
♪ I believe in love.
1802
01:31:59,134 --> 01:32:02,827
♪ It's all we got. ♪
1803
01:32:02,896 --> 01:32:05,036
- Doctor.
1804
01:32:06,279 --> 01:32:07,556
- Nurse.
1805
01:32:10,663 --> 01:32:12,975
- I want to do--
1806
01:32:13,044 --> 01:32:16,358
♪ War makes money, cancer sleeps
1807
01:32:16,427 --> 01:32:22,053
♪ Curled up in my father and
that means something to me
1808
01:32:23,227 --> 01:32:28,646
♪ Churches and dictators,
politics and papers
1809
01:32:30,165 --> 01:32:35,584
♪ Everything crumbles
sooner or later
1810
01:32:36,758 --> 01:32:42,142
♪ But love, I believe in love
1811
01:32:51,324 --> 01:32:56,743
♪ I believe in love,
it's all we got
1812
01:32:58,089 --> 01:33:01,230
♪ Love has no boundaries
1813
01:33:01,299 --> 01:33:05,269
♪ No borders to cross
1814
01:33:05,338 --> 01:33:10,688
♪ Love is simple, hate breeds
1815
01:33:11,931 --> 01:33:17,592
♪ Those who think difference
is the child of disease
1816
01:33:18,938 --> 01:33:24,391
♪ Father and son
make love and guns
1817
01:33:25,392 --> 01:33:30,708
♪ Families together kill someone
1818
01:33:31,847 --> 01:33:37,232
♪ Without love ♪
1819
01:33:39,614 --> 01:33:44,619
[piano music]
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