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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:26,425 --> 00:00:28,861 I was taken there by a girlfriend, as a tourist. 2 00:00:28,995 --> 00:00:32,431 1966, she took me in and I wandered in onto the stage 3 00:00:32,565 --> 00:00:33,566 and it just struck me, 4 00:00:33,699 --> 00:00:35,635 "This is the most famous place in Hollywood, ain't it?" 5 00:00:35,768 --> 00:00:37,703 And I just thought, "We'll never play here." 6 00:00:37,837 --> 00:00:40,406 50 years later, I had my own show there. 7 00:00:41,073 --> 00:00:42,141 He's a maverick. 8 00:00:42,275 --> 00:00:46,178 A maverick guitar player, who doesn't like to repeat himself, 9 00:00:46,312 --> 00:00:48,247 who takes big risks all the time. 10 00:00:48,381 --> 00:00:50,583 Has done so all the way through his career. 11 00:00:50,850 --> 00:00:53,653 The guitar player who builds hot rods, I mean... 12 00:00:54,186 --> 00:00:56,122 the two go very well together. 13 00:00:56,756 --> 00:00:58,958 There's been a lot of wakeup calls for me 14 00:00:59,091 --> 00:01:00,793 watching Jeff, listening to Jeff play, 15 00:01:00,927 --> 00:01:02,228 and working with Jeff. 16 00:01:02,495 --> 00:01:05,731 It's always intriguing. 17 00:01:05,865 --> 00:01:08,000 And he's a great musician. 18 00:01:09,068 --> 00:01:11,003 He has so much to offer 19 00:01:11,470 --> 00:01:14,307 that he's been able to carve his own path. 20 00:01:14,507 --> 00:01:16,008 Music draws people together 21 00:01:16,142 --> 00:01:17,643 and somebody who likes to touch play, 22 00:01:17,777 --> 00:01:18,945 they go "bang" and that's it. 23 00:01:19,078 --> 00:01:20,646 He makes you feel important, 24 00:01:20,780 --> 00:01:22,648 like what you have to offer is a beautiful thing. 25 00:01:22,782 --> 00:01:26,352 Most guitar players just play, but Jeff can make it sing. 26 00:01:26,586 --> 00:01:27,987 Jeff had got a fix 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,122 up the ying yang when he's recorded, 28 00:01:30,389 --> 00:01:33,726 but live, he brings it to a different level. 29 00:01:35,861 --> 00:01:37,530 Part of Jeff's mystique 30 00:01:37,663 --> 00:01:39,599 is that he likes being mysterious. 31 00:01:39,865 --> 00:01:43,135 He's a bit of an unsung hero to the masses. 32 00:01:43,269 --> 00:01:47,006 Part of that is due to many albums not having vocals. 33 00:01:47,306 --> 00:01:51,243 I told him that he was the Pablo Picasso of electric guitar. 34 00:01:51,744 --> 00:01:53,779 And he said back to me: 35 00:01:53,913 --> 00:01:56,148 "I would think I was more the Jackson Pollock." 36 00:01:56,816 --> 00:01:58,117 And I was like: "Touché." 37 00:02:03,823 --> 00:02:06,926 It's so instinctive and so exciting to be around 38 00:02:07,059 --> 00:02:08,928 'cause you don't know what's gonna happen next. 39 00:02:09,061 --> 00:02:10,830 This is not paint by numbers. 40 00:02:10,963 --> 00:02:12,264 This is the muse. 41 00:02:12,398 --> 00:02:14,600 And the muse is gonna say what it's gonna say. 42 00:02:14,867 --> 00:02:17,570 And he lets it happen, and next. 43 00:02:17,737 --> 00:02:20,640 He's such a forward thinker, and an innovator. 44 00:02:20,806 --> 00:02:22,908 He's just always reaching for new things. 45 00:02:23,042 --> 00:02:24,276 Jeff's an incredible artist 46 00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:26,646 and I always have an affinity for male artists 47 00:02:26,779 --> 00:02:30,716 who can find fantastic female artists to accompany them. 48 00:02:30,883 --> 00:02:34,253 Jeff's the guy who look the instrument of guitar 49 00:02:34,620 --> 00:02:37,323 to the furthest reaches of guitar universe. 50 00:02:37,456 --> 00:02:39,392 And nobody even comes close. 51 00:02:39,892 --> 00:02:41,727 Everybody respects Jeff. 52 00:02:41,861 --> 00:02:44,697 He's an extraordinary musician and he's developed a technique, 53 00:02:44,830 --> 00:02:46,999 which is so complex. 54 00:02:47,266 --> 00:02:50,870 It's just a beauty to behold and to hear and to feel his playing. 55 00:02:51,137 --> 00:02:53,606 He's having a conversation with you when he's playing, 56 00:02:53,739 --> 00:02:55,341 it's just he's not singing. 57 00:02:56,008 --> 00:02:58,878 He gets sounds that no other guitar player gets. 58 00:02:59,011 --> 00:03:01,547 He bends notes like no other guitar player. 59 00:03:02,048 --> 00:03:06,452 He was, and is still, the most original guitar player ever. 60 00:03:16,328 --> 00:03:17,830 My mum played the piano so... 61 00:03:18,064 --> 00:03:21,100 being in close proximity to her, music was always around. 62 00:03:21,233 --> 00:03:22,268 Either playing the piano 63 00:03:22,401 --> 00:03:24,637 or sticking me in the living room with the radio. 64 00:03:24,770 --> 00:03:26,672 So there'd be whatever was on at the time. 65 00:03:27,406 --> 00:03:30,176 She had very strict ideas and hopes 66 00:03:30,309 --> 00:03:31,811 of what she wanted me to be. 67 00:03:32,244 --> 00:03:35,281 I would love to play the piano, but it's already done. 68 00:03:35,881 --> 00:03:39,518 And after I heard Art Tatum, there's a good enough reason 69 00:03:39,652 --> 00:03:42,021 never to ever sit in front of a piano again. 70 00:03:48,127 --> 00:03:51,097 I just thought there's no place for another pianist. 71 00:03:51,230 --> 00:03:53,432 I don't feel that was my destiny. 72 00:03:53,566 --> 00:03:55,568 Whereas guitar, I didn't have to think about it. 73 00:03:55,701 --> 00:03:58,204 I wouldn't have cared if it'd been the worst waste of my life. 74 00:03:58,337 --> 00:04:00,873 I still want to be alone with it 75 00:04:01,006 --> 00:04:02,541 and just pour my feelings into it. 76 00:04:02,675 --> 00:04:04,877 It responds so readily to touch. 77 00:04:08,514 --> 00:04:09,882 The radio was never off. 78 00:04:10,015 --> 00:04:12,084 I think my mum put it there just to shut me up. 79 00:04:25,397 --> 00:04:27,633 And the Les Paul influence was because 80 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:31,170 some programme or other had 'How High The Moon' 81 00:04:31,303 --> 00:04:33,506 and every time it came on the radio 82 00:04:33,672 --> 00:04:36,142 I would run to the kitchen and say, "Mum, what's this?" 83 00:04:36,275 --> 00:04:38,244 And she'd go, "Oh, I've read about that guy, 84 00:04:38,377 --> 00:04:39,779 he's just a box of tricks, 85 00:04:40,212 --> 00:04:41,180 he's a phoney." 86 00:04:41,313 --> 00:04:45,017 I went, this is interesting, 'electric guitar', 'phoney'. 87 00:04:45,184 --> 00:04:47,386 You know, to a kid it's intriguing. 88 00:04:49,922 --> 00:04:53,092 She said, "Look, it was revealed that he can't play that fast, 89 00:04:53,225 --> 00:04:54,160 it's all sped up." 90 00:04:58,063 --> 00:05:00,733 And I said, "Well, I like the sound he's making. 91 00:05:00,866 --> 00:05:02,334 It doesn't matter if it's sped up." 92 00:05:02,701 --> 00:05:05,070 I was interested in the guitar solos 93 00:05:05,204 --> 00:05:06,972 on the records my sister was playing. 94 00:05:07,506 --> 00:05:10,142 'Hound Dog', for example and 'Rock Around The Clock'. 95 00:05:10,276 --> 00:05:11,377 This was heaven. 96 00:05:11,610 --> 00:05:15,247 And I started to analyse sound in great detail. 97 00:05:15,381 --> 00:05:17,082 Eddie Cochran had a slap echo, 98 00:05:17,249 --> 00:05:19,018 Cliff Gallup had a slap echo. 99 00:05:22,121 --> 00:05:23,155 It was just too good. 100 00:05:23,289 --> 00:05:26,258 Those records still sound astonishingly good. 101 00:05:26,392 --> 00:05:27,827 Once I got to know Jeff 102 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,095 and talk to him about his influences, 103 00:05:30,229 --> 00:05:33,299 he liked that guy that was with Gene Vincent a lot, 104 00:05:33,432 --> 00:05:34,366 Cliff Gallup. 105 00:05:42,241 --> 00:05:45,144 My sister went to the Sutton Granada and saw this film 106 00:05:45,277 --> 00:05:46,745 and she said, "You have to see it, 107 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:48,948 it's just the most amazing technicolour film 108 00:05:49,081 --> 00:05:51,050 of everything you like, everything we like." 109 00:05:51,183 --> 00:05:52,618 And I went with some friends 110 00:05:52,751 --> 00:05:55,120 to see 'Vincent and the Blue Caps' in colour. 111 00:05:55,588 --> 00:05:56,856 It was life-changing. 112 00:05:57,289 --> 00:05:59,458 That is the best rock 'n' roll film ever made. 113 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:07,032 Everything that I loved seemed to be coming from America. 114 00:06:07,733 --> 00:06:09,101 The cars, the music. 115 00:06:09,235 --> 00:06:11,470 I couldn't see any way of ever getting there. 116 00:06:11,604 --> 00:06:13,405 I'm talking about no money at all. 117 00:06:13,906 --> 00:06:15,808 My sister came in one day from school 118 00:06:15,941 --> 00:06:18,510 and threw this piece of paper with a phone number on it. 119 00:06:18,644 --> 00:06:20,512 "Here's the number of a geek at school 120 00:06:20,846 --> 00:06:23,515 who's got a weird looking guitar like yours." 121 00:06:23,649 --> 00:06:27,519 And she agreed to take this bus ride over to Epsom, 122 00:06:28,187 --> 00:06:30,155 where we knocked on the door 123 00:06:30,289 --> 00:06:32,992 and this fresh-faced little kid answered the door 124 00:06:33,125 --> 00:06:35,294 and he invited us in. 125 00:06:35,628 --> 00:06:37,329 Well, he came round to my house. 126 00:06:37,463 --> 00:06:39,798 I was living at home, of course, with my parents, 127 00:06:40,099 --> 00:06:42,701 and Jeff came in and he had a homemade guitar 128 00:06:42,835 --> 00:06:45,371 and I also had a homemade guitar there as well. 129 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:48,173 And we just sort of clicked immediately. 130 00:06:48,307 --> 00:06:52,645 It was like two brothers almost. 131 00:06:53,479 --> 00:06:55,014 It was just a joyous thing 132 00:06:55,147 --> 00:06:57,483 to find somebody else who had this common interest. 133 00:06:57,650 --> 00:07:00,119 He'd come round and we'd hang out 134 00:07:00,252 --> 00:07:01,754 and I'd play records to him. 135 00:07:01,954 --> 00:07:04,456 He had equipment, he had a tape recorder, 136 00:07:04,590 --> 00:07:07,192 all the goodies, and a great record collection. 137 00:07:07,726 --> 00:07:09,194 Mouth-watering collection. 138 00:07:09,328 --> 00:07:12,698 I had such an eclectic mix of records, even as a teenager. 139 00:07:13,265 --> 00:07:15,301 It was a great adventure, 140 00:07:15,434 --> 00:07:18,370 finding other people who might know a different chord to you 141 00:07:18,504 --> 00:07:19,872 or finding a record shop 142 00:07:20,005 --> 00:07:23,342 where they were importing say Vee-Jay records, 143 00:07:23,475 --> 00:07:27,479 the Chicago movement of the 50s, the Blues movement, 144 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:29,615 as opposed to all the Chess catalogue... 145 00:07:29,748 --> 00:07:32,484 There was lots of pilgrimages involved. 146 00:07:33,452 --> 00:07:35,321 All of those guitarists from that point, 147 00:07:35,454 --> 00:07:37,022 we all learnt from records. 148 00:07:37,222 --> 00:07:40,292 We used to sit there listening and go back over the solo, 149 00:07:40,426 --> 00:07:42,428 never mind the song, never mind the singer. 150 00:07:42,795 --> 00:07:44,797 "What the hell's that going on?" 151 00:07:45,264 --> 00:07:48,200 "How is this sounding like a ricochet effect?" 152 00:07:49,001 --> 00:07:50,669 "Why does it sound so exciting?" 153 00:07:50,803 --> 00:07:53,305 You wanted to see if you could play what was on. 154 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:55,574 It's quite an accomplishment to hear something 155 00:07:55,708 --> 00:07:57,943 that's really, really, really amazing to you 156 00:07:58,077 --> 00:07:59,278 and really moved you, 157 00:07:59,411 --> 00:08:02,047 but then really actually work towards being able to play it. 158 00:08:02,181 --> 00:08:03,615 You've got a partner in crime, 159 00:08:03,749 --> 00:08:06,518 you've got somebody to hammer out ideas. 160 00:08:06,652 --> 00:08:07,987 When you've learnt something 161 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,688 that sounds reasonably impressive, 162 00:08:09,822 --> 00:08:12,091 you want somebody to see what they think of it. 163 00:08:12,291 --> 00:08:16,328 We were really keen on exactly the same things 164 00:08:16,462 --> 00:08:20,132 with the Gene Vincent records and Ricky Nelson records. 165 00:08:20,265 --> 00:08:23,569 There were always fine guitar solos by James Burton 166 00:08:23,702 --> 00:08:27,072 and one of the things that we would ask of each other was: 167 00:08:27,373 --> 00:08:29,108 "What's your version of 'My Babe'?" 168 00:08:29,241 --> 00:08:30,542 "OK, yeah, what's yours?" 169 00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:35,280 That seemed to be a sort of a communal ground 170 00:08:35,414 --> 00:08:37,750 between most guitarists around that time, 171 00:08:37,883 --> 00:08:41,186 to see how well other guys could cut this solo. 172 00:08:52,231 --> 00:08:55,467 I used to love going over there, to have something that was so... 173 00:08:56,001 --> 00:08:57,469 close to my heart, you know. 174 00:08:58,037 --> 00:09:01,807 And to my ears as well, it hit all the jackpots. 175 00:09:02,241 --> 00:09:05,177 It seemed like everybody was coming out of art school 176 00:09:05,310 --> 00:09:07,579 in the 50s when rock 'n' roll first started 177 00:09:07,713 --> 00:09:09,548 to reach out from America to here. 178 00:09:09,681 --> 00:09:11,350 It was a great way of escaping 179 00:09:11,483 --> 00:09:14,153 any form of work, I think, any form of day job. 180 00:09:14,386 --> 00:09:15,254 I did love it. 181 00:09:15,387 --> 00:09:18,757 I did love the fact that there was a place you could go 182 00:09:19,058 --> 00:09:22,694 and draw, and learn the basics of art. 183 00:09:22,828 --> 00:09:24,763 I had 2 years of great fun there, 184 00:09:25,631 --> 00:09:29,101 but the music took over because 185 00:09:29,234 --> 00:09:31,870 mid-week there was a gig in town, 186 00:09:32,004 --> 00:09:33,372 not far from where I lived. 187 00:09:33,872 --> 00:09:35,707 And that kept me going, just that one gig. 188 00:09:35,841 --> 00:09:38,177 Then two gigs a week came in and so on. 189 00:09:38,944 --> 00:09:42,181 And unfortunately I had to bail before the end of the course. 190 00:09:42,414 --> 00:09:45,150 Music was our hobby. 191 00:09:46,218 --> 00:09:48,253 And then we ended up being professionals. 192 00:09:48,454 --> 00:09:50,355 When the Yardbirds came about, 193 00:09:50,489 --> 00:09:52,524 Eric was the force to be reckoned with. 194 00:09:52,658 --> 00:09:54,526 They had Eric, so why did they want me? 195 00:09:54,693 --> 00:09:55,828 I don't understand that. 196 00:09:56,028 --> 00:09:59,331 They were looking for hit records. 197 00:09:59,465 --> 00:10:02,167 And we weren't making any music of that nature. 198 00:10:02,301 --> 00:10:05,070 His name was used as a replacement. 199 00:10:05,204 --> 00:10:06,538 They were telling me, in a way, 200 00:10:06,672 --> 00:10:09,775 that I wasn't that vital to the organisation so... 201 00:10:09,908 --> 00:10:12,077 So I went to see him. He was with the Tridents. 202 00:10:12,211 --> 00:10:13,545 'Cause I wanted to see, 203 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,881 "Was he really as good as they made out?" 204 00:10:16,148 --> 00:10:18,550 And he had all these sound effects going on. 205 00:10:18,684 --> 00:10:21,753 And I thought, "My God, I'm gone, I'm long gone." 206 00:10:21,887 --> 00:10:24,289 I actually thought about retiring then 207 00:10:24,423 --> 00:10:28,994 because I thought I'm in the wrong business. 208 00:10:29,194 --> 00:10:35,367 But seeing Jeff, I thought, "They're onto a good thing." 209 00:10:51,383 --> 00:10:53,018 I like the Yardbirds a lot. 210 00:10:53,152 --> 00:10:54,987 I liked that 'Heart Full of Soul'. 211 00:10:55,888 --> 00:10:58,390 Sitar-like playing of Jeff's. 212 00:10:59,258 --> 00:11:01,326 He's such a distinctive player, 213 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:03,195 he didn't follow anyone else, really. 214 00:11:03,362 --> 00:11:05,731 He's just completely out there on his own. 215 00:11:05,864 --> 00:11:07,900 They had a sitar player in the studio. 216 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:13,438 And he was thinking in sort of 13 and 1/4 time signature. 217 00:11:14,106 --> 00:11:16,875 And they said, "No, it's 4/4." 218 00:11:18,110 --> 00:11:19,845 And I said, "It's sort of like this." 219 00:11:20,045 --> 00:11:21,713 And I got the octave, the G octave, 220 00:11:21,847 --> 00:11:23,582 and then played dee-doo-do-di-di. 221 00:11:24,249 --> 00:11:26,618 And I said, "Why the hell have we got him here? 222 00:11:26,752 --> 00:11:27,719 I can play that." 223 00:11:46,371 --> 00:11:49,308 I think he was a hard rock pioneer from day one. 224 00:11:49,441 --> 00:11:52,110 He was doing stuff that didn't exist, 225 00:11:53,078 --> 00:11:53,912 except for him. 226 00:11:54,046 --> 00:11:56,148 When I first heard The Yardbirds, 227 00:11:56,281 --> 00:11:58,183 when I heard Jeff's playing, 228 00:11:58,483 --> 00:12:01,687 it was noticeably different, even then to my young ears. 229 00:12:02,287 --> 00:12:05,424 There was a sound to his guitar that kind of stood out 230 00:12:05,557 --> 00:12:08,260 and was different from the usual pop stuff. 231 00:12:08,393 --> 00:12:10,896 There was something about it, the notes he was playing. 232 00:12:11,029 --> 00:12:13,665 I mean, it was more lyrical to me. 233 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:16,268 And within a month, we were flying over to America. 234 00:12:17,102 --> 00:12:18,437 I'd not only been to America, 235 00:12:18,570 --> 00:12:20,906 but I'd recorded at the famous Sun Studios 236 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:22,274 and Chess Records. 237 00:12:41,226 --> 00:12:43,061 Shapes of Things, amazing. 238 00:12:43,195 --> 00:12:44,596 I remember that distinctly. 239 00:12:44,763 --> 00:12:46,598 How is it we've had to come this far 240 00:12:46,732 --> 00:12:48,267 to get the sound we want? 241 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,535 In England, the studios didn't get it. 242 00:12:51,136 --> 00:12:53,372 The engineers back in England were more pure. 243 00:12:53,505 --> 00:12:57,109 They didn't like anything that rattled or squeaked. 244 00:12:57,242 --> 00:12:59,845 I'd be: "Bring on the squeaks, we don't care about that." 245 00:13:00,846 --> 00:13:02,681 Instantly, we hear the playback, 246 00:13:02,814 --> 00:13:05,717 we're all looking at each other going, "This is the stuff." 247 00:13:06,118 --> 00:13:07,252 Jeff would come round 248 00:13:07,386 --> 00:13:12,157 and he'd play me the sort of first cuts of the records. 249 00:13:12,291 --> 00:13:15,294 And I remember him playing 'Shapes of Things' 250 00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:17,863 and when it came to the solo 251 00:13:17,996 --> 00:13:20,732 I thought, "This is the most extraordinary solo." 252 00:13:20,932 --> 00:13:22,134 Ravi Shankar was playing 253 00:13:22,267 --> 00:13:24,603 quite a big part in The Beatles and stuff 254 00:13:24,736 --> 00:13:26,471 and I used to sit over at Page's house 255 00:13:26,605 --> 00:13:30,409 listening to ragas, Vilayat Khan and Ravi Shankar 256 00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:31,710 and just marvelling. 257 00:13:32,277 --> 00:13:35,247 How could this be adopted in the guitar? 258 00:13:35,380 --> 00:13:36,615 This bending of the string 259 00:13:37,282 --> 00:13:40,118 to such an extent that you could play a melody with one bend. 260 00:13:57,302 --> 00:14:00,739 The work that Jeff did in the Yardbirds 261 00:14:00,872 --> 00:14:04,042 was of paramount importance to guitar-based groups 262 00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:06,311 because he had an incredible ear 263 00:14:06,445 --> 00:14:08,180 and he set an amazing standard. 264 00:14:08,580 --> 00:14:12,884 And also that his technique was extraordinary as well. 265 00:14:13,018 --> 00:14:15,587 And I must say, when I heard that, 266 00:14:15,721 --> 00:14:20,292 I really understood what Jeff was really capable of. 267 00:14:20,592 --> 00:14:22,194 The Yardbirds had a crazy manager, 268 00:14:22,661 --> 00:14:24,629 and I remember Giorgio freaking. 269 00:14:24,796 --> 00:14:26,631 Steam was coming out of his ears 270 00:14:27,099 --> 00:14:28,433 when I played that solo he went, 271 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:30,836 "This is exactly why you're in this band." 272 00:14:31,069 --> 00:14:34,473 "You are opening up surreal avenues, 273 00:14:34,606 --> 00:14:39,077 like avant-garde avenues, for the guitar, in this band." 274 00:14:39,945 --> 00:14:40,912 Giorgio was great, 275 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:43,715 but I think there was some skulduggery going on 276 00:14:43,849 --> 00:14:45,317 with the money, I don't know. 277 00:14:45,450 --> 00:14:47,452 All I know is I never made any of it. 278 00:14:47,819 --> 00:14:49,454 I think I must've threatened to leave 279 00:14:49,588 --> 00:14:52,190 unless they got rid of him, then Simon Napier-Bell appeared 280 00:14:52,324 --> 00:14:53,592 and agreed to take over. 281 00:14:54,025 --> 00:14:56,595 Within 5 minutes, Jimmy Page is in the band, 282 00:14:56,728 --> 00:14:59,231 and we were on the set of Blow-Up. 283 00:14:59,364 --> 00:15:01,133 Nobody knew what it was gonna be like. 284 00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:03,201 As most movies, they don't really tell you. 285 00:15:03,335 --> 00:15:07,205 I was just told that Antonioni was a great director, surreal, 286 00:15:07,339 --> 00:15:09,141 and it just seemed like a cool thing. 287 00:15:09,274 --> 00:15:12,077 And the cheque for 3,000 was amazing. 288 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:14,513 I don't think any of the band had ever seen 289 00:15:14,646 --> 00:15:16,081 that kind of money in one lump. 290 00:15:16,214 --> 00:15:20,952 They all went out and invested sensibly in fruit and veg shops. 291 00:15:21,386 --> 00:15:22,754 Shop, it's a business. 292 00:15:23,255 --> 00:15:25,991 And I invested in a '63 split window Corvette, 293 00:15:26,324 --> 00:15:27,926 which was the only sensible thing 294 00:15:28,059 --> 00:15:29,494 for a person like me to do. 295 00:15:32,264 --> 00:15:34,266 I had a girlfriend in LA 296 00:15:34,699 --> 00:15:37,602 and it was a comfortable place, this weather was amazing. 297 00:15:38,670 --> 00:15:41,173 And I left all that to go on this tour 298 00:15:41,373 --> 00:15:42,507 with the Yardbirds. 299 00:15:43,175 --> 00:15:45,310 I'd never played in America before. 300 00:15:45,510 --> 00:15:47,412 It was a shock and really surreal 301 00:15:47,612 --> 00:15:49,981 from everything I thought that it was going to be. 302 00:15:50,182 --> 00:15:52,284 The Dick Clark Caravan of Stars 303 00:15:52,417 --> 00:15:56,021 was a conglomeration of acts that would all get on stage 304 00:15:56,154 --> 00:15:57,522 and do two or three songs. 305 00:15:57,656 --> 00:15:59,224 They would tour in buses. 306 00:15:59,524 --> 00:16:01,259 You had to be a real trooper. 307 00:16:01,393 --> 00:16:06,465 They would go out on the road and do 60 dates in 60 days. 308 00:16:06,932 --> 00:16:08,400 That was very, very odd 309 00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:14,172 because it was a collection of teenybop stars, teenyboppers. 310 00:16:14,539 --> 00:16:15,974 For a very young audience. 311 00:16:16,675 --> 00:16:17,909 In a bus that stank 312 00:16:18,043 --> 00:16:20,612 and it was crammed with people that didn't really like us. 313 00:16:21,012 --> 00:16:22,814 We didn't get on with the rest of the cast. 314 00:16:23,448 --> 00:16:25,350 There was a toilet that got busted 315 00:16:25,884 --> 00:16:27,586 and that didn't work 316 00:16:27,719 --> 00:16:30,322 and people had to sleep in the luggage racks. 317 00:16:30,589 --> 00:16:33,525 But Jeff missed all that because he left pretty early 318 00:16:33,658 --> 00:16:35,193 after just a few dates. 319 00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:39,331 After two gigs, I thought I've just nearly killed myself 320 00:16:39,464 --> 00:16:41,433 to do 15 minutes on stage 321 00:16:41,566 --> 00:16:44,102 for the two hits plus one other song. 322 00:16:44,703 --> 00:16:46,738 That's it. It was a quick turnaround. 323 00:16:46,872 --> 00:16:48,740 Jerry Lewis' son was on the tour. 324 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:50,909 Gary Lewis and the Playboys. 325 00:16:51,042 --> 00:16:53,612 And I thought: "This is so middle America." 326 00:16:54,579 --> 00:16:57,682 We're telling people that we're part of this, we're not. 327 00:16:57,983 --> 00:17:00,552 The Yardbirds were completely on the road 328 00:17:00,685 --> 00:17:04,789 to forging a unique career, you know. 329 00:17:05,457 --> 00:17:08,627 And they threw it into this ridiculous mixing box. 330 00:17:09,494 --> 00:17:10,495 And I said, "Jim," 331 00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:11,730 I called him to my room, 332 00:17:11,863 --> 00:17:14,332 I said, "Jim, I've just had the horrors. 333 00:17:14,466 --> 00:17:16,735 Here's my guitar, you take lead tomorrow. 334 00:17:16,868 --> 00:17:18,537 I'm not even gonna take the guitar." 335 00:17:18,703 --> 00:17:21,473 That was the end of me. No girlfriend, no Yardbirds, 336 00:17:21,606 --> 00:17:22,574 no nothing. 337 00:17:22,707 --> 00:17:25,544 But I had my Corvette parked in my mothers sideway. 338 00:17:25,677 --> 00:17:27,345 So I was free to dream again. 339 00:17:54,806 --> 00:17:57,709 Jeff and I met up at the Sheffield Mojo. 340 00:17:58,577 --> 00:18:01,880 When I was doing the circuit up and down the motorway 341 00:18:02,013 --> 00:18:03,648 in my first group, The Birds. 342 00:18:04,082 --> 00:18:05,116 We got on really well 343 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:07,719 and he was telling me about this gig with the Yardbirds, 344 00:18:07,852 --> 00:18:09,387 and kind of spoke... 345 00:18:09,521 --> 00:18:13,391 "Well, if we ever are not in the setup we're in now, 346 00:18:13,525 --> 00:18:14,859 one day we'll work together." 347 00:18:14,993 --> 00:18:17,596 One of the good things about the Yardbirds times 348 00:18:17,729 --> 00:18:21,933 was that we'd come back from a tour maybe up north 349 00:18:22,267 --> 00:18:26,538 and even at 2 a.m. we'd stop off at the Cromwellian Club. 350 00:18:26,671 --> 00:18:28,206 After the Yardbirds I thought, 351 00:18:28,340 --> 00:18:31,009 there's nothing to stop me from going back there on my own. 352 00:18:31,643 --> 00:18:34,546 And the guy on the door went: "Jeff, nice to see you back." 353 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:37,582 That night, there was not much going on. 354 00:18:37,716 --> 00:18:40,251 There were Motown records playing and I'm thinking, 355 00:18:40,385 --> 00:18:42,721 "This is sad, I'm sitting alone with a beer." 356 00:18:42,854 --> 00:18:45,690 There was one other guy in the corner 357 00:18:46,024 --> 00:18:47,292 and it was Rod Stewart. 358 00:18:47,926 --> 00:18:49,327 We talked a little bit. 359 00:18:50,295 --> 00:18:52,097 And he said he was forming a band, 360 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:53,565 he'd left the Yardbirds. 361 00:18:53,999 --> 00:18:57,369 I was out of work and I think I may have mentioned Woody 362 00:18:57,502 --> 00:18:59,170 and said he's out of work as well. 363 00:18:59,304 --> 00:19:01,172 So it was three out-of-work musicians 364 00:19:01,306 --> 00:19:02,507 and we formed a band. 365 00:19:03,074 --> 00:19:05,143 His collaboration with Rod Stewart 366 00:19:05,276 --> 00:19:07,178 was kind of legendary. 367 00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:11,683 One of the best things that Rod ever did, as well as Jeff, 368 00:19:12,317 --> 00:19:13,518 on that 'Truth' album. 369 00:19:13,685 --> 00:19:18,189 It was the huskiness that was rare to have in a white singer. 370 00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:19,958 I loved it. 371 00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:40,245 The band, with Micky Waller, 372 00:19:40,412 --> 00:19:42,614 myself on bass, and Jeff on the guitar, 373 00:19:42,881 --> 00:19:48,153 the holes and the spaces that it left for Rod's voice 374 00:19:48,553 --> 00:19:49,821 in its rawness... 375 00:19:50,088 --> 00:19:52,590 Jeff used to really treasure Rod's voice. 376 00:19:53,692 --> 00:19:57,328 And treasure all the things that could happen in those spaces. 377 00:20:12,277 --> 00:20:13,878 He believed in me, he really did. 378 00:20:14,012 --> 00:20:15,880 He wanted a proper singer in his band. 379 00:20:16,181 --> 00:20:17,782 He had a voice that was so... 380 00:20:19,284 --> 00:20:21,653 the vital instrument within the band 381 00:20:21,786 --> 00:20:23,488 that you didn't need a rhythm guitar. 382 00:20:23,955 --> 00:20:26,191 Jeff's virtuoso performances 383 00:20:26,324 --> 00:20:32,430 tied up with Rod's Blues-type vocals on that album. 384 00:20:33,098 --> 00:20:35,567 That was an absolutely seminal album. 385 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:37,736 'Truth' has 'Rock My Plimsoul'. 386 00:20:37,869 --> 00:20:39,871 It's got 'I Ain't Superstitious'. 387 00:20:40,004 --> 00:20:44,509 It's really my favourite Jeff Beck, stylistically. 388 00:20:44,642 --> 00:20:47,345 You know, it's more in your face rock 'n' roll. 389 00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:50,982 Jeff didn't just wanna play what Muddy Waters had played 390 00:20:51,116 --> 00:20:52,183 and Howlin' Wolf. 391 00:20:52,650 --> 00:20:57,522 He wanted to take it more Chicago-ish and more electric 392 00:20:57,989 --> 00:21:03,228 and just take it out of that basic idiom that it's in. 393 00:21:03,528 --> 00:21:05,463 You know, and electrify it, make it more... 394 00:21:05,597 --> 00:21:06,965 More arrangements. 395 00:21:07,098 --> 00:21:09,100 Even though the song's a 12-bar Blues, 396 00:21:09,234 --> 00:21:11,870 we arranged the songs to sound more interesting. 397 00:21:12,137 --> 00:21:13,471 Right, let's go. 398 00:21:13,605 --> 00:21:15,006 I thought I'd sing it in... 399 00:21:15,140 --> 00:21:16,808 I can sing it in harmony, can't I? 400 00:21:17,041 --> 00:21:18,243 Sing however you want. 401 00:21:18,409 --> 00:21:21,045 But stop me, I'll try something on the first few chords. 402 00:21:21,179 --> 00:21:23,414 If it sounds suss, stop me, right? 403 00:21:23,715 --> 00:21:25,583 Make my voice nearly in the background. 404 00:21:26,284 --> 00:21:27,152 Mickie Most, 405 00:21:27,285 --> 00:21:29,053 he didn't wanna know about Rod at all. 406 00:21:29,187 --> 00:21:31,723 He said, "You're the artist. Your name is on the label." 407 00:21:31,856 --> 00:21:34,325 I said, "No, I'm not interested in that. 408 00:21:34,492 --> 00:21:37,428 I'm interested in being part of a great rock band. 409 00:21:37,562 --> 00:21:38,630 Or a Blues band." 410 00:21:38,763 --> 00:21:41,199 Mickie just believed in the old dollar. 411 00:21:41,332 --> 00:21:42,667 Make it as quick as you can 412 00:21:42,801 --> 00:21:45,103 and really wanted us to be a pop band. 413 00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:48,106 You know, much to our dismay. 414 00:21:48,406 --> 00:21:50,642 'Cause that's not what we wanna do. 415 00:21:51,176 --> 00:21:53,244 He didn't see any point in having me, really. 416 00:21:53,378 --> 00:21:54,879 He wanted Jeff to sing. 417 00:22:10,595 --> 00:22:12,530 Why was he such a reluctant pop star? 418 00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:16,668 I guess that just wasn't really what he ever wanted to do. 419 00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:19,270 I don't know how that song came about. 420 00:22:19,404 --> 00:22:22,941 Some sort of pressure, if you like, from Mickie Most, 421 00:22:23,074 --> 00:22:24,509 to try and come up with a hit, 422 00:22:24,642 --> 00:22:26,377 but I think he very quickly realised 423 00:22:26,511 --> 00:22:29,147 that that wasn't ever going to be what he wanted to do. 424 00:22:29,547 --> 00:22:31,249 Absolutely his prerogative. 425 00:22:31,683 --> 00:22:33,351 But it's given lots of other people 426 00:22:33,484 --> 00:22:35,053 an enormous amount of pleasure. 427 00:22:35,186 --> 00:22:37,021 Much more pleasure than it ever gave him. 428 00:22:37,155 --> 00:22:41,192 It was like being asked to wear a pink frock 429 00:22:41,326 --> 00:22:43,795 and walk on top of a bus down Oxford Street. 430 00:22:46,231 --> 00:22:50,034 It was framing me with this embarrassing pop song 431 00:22:51,069 --> 00:22:51,903 that wasn't me, 432 00:22:52,036 --> 00:22:55,573 but over the years I've become warmed to it 433 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:57,475 because it makes people feel happy. 434 00:22:57,642 --> 00:22:59,477 Jeff, I believe, asked Mickie 435 00:22:59,611 --> 00:23:02,013 if I could sing 'Hi Ho Silver Lining'... 436 00:23:02,146 --> 00:23:03,314 But Mickie said no. 437 00:23:03,781 --> 00:23:07,619 But you can hear me yodelling in the background on the chorus. 438 00:23:25,837 --> 00:23:27,672 Just when you think you're getting there, 439 00:23:28,339 --> 00:23:30,308 you realise you're about 6 months away. 440 00:23:30,675 --> 00:23:32,644 I kicked off in Mickie Most's office. 441 00:23:33,244 --> 00:23:36,614 And on this particular argument Peter Grant was there 442 00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:38,616 and he was smiling at me and was going... 443 00:23:38,783 --> 00:23:42,053 It was as though the smile was saying: "Give him some stick. 444 00:23:42,186 --> 00:23:44,455 He needs to be put in his place," meaning Mickie. 445 00:23:44,622 --> 00:23:47,125 Shortly after that, he must have had a word with Mickie 446 00:23:47,258 --> 00:23:49,193 and said, "Look, Jeff was in the Yardbirds, 447 00:23:49,327 --> 00:23:52,063 he already opened the door in America for himself 448 00:23:52,196 --> 00:23:53,231 to go back with a band." 449 00:23:53,364 --> 00:23:55,133 There's an underground scene over there. 450 00:23:55,266 --> 00:23:58,169 Steppenwolf was happening, FM radio was happening. 451 00:23:58,336 --> 00:24:01,072 There were venues and there was press 452 00:24:01,205 --> 00:24:03,441 and there were radio stations and 453 00:24:04,042 --> 00:24:06,544 you could build an act by coming and touring. 454 00:24:07,011 --> 00:24:08,446 So this was mind-boggling. 455 00:24:08,579 --> 00:24:12,250 I remember when Woody and I drove across the Brooklyn Bridge 456 00:24:12,383 --> 00:24:15,186 in the back of a limo with Peter Grant, the manager. 457 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,155 I mean it was just heaven. 458 00:24:17,288 --> 00:24:18,389 "Here we are." 459 00:24:18,756 --> 00:24:21,059 But it was a 5-month tour. 460 00:24:21,793 --> 00:24:23,761 It was hard work, but it was great fun. 461 00:24:23,995 --> 00:24:27,532 When we went to America, we opened at Fillmore East. 462 00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:29,734 Talk about jump in the deep end. 463 00:24:30,568 --> 00:24:33,771 That's the famous night when Rod wouldn't come on stage. He hid. 464 00:24:34,005 --> 00:24:35,840 That was the night I hid behind the amps. 465 00:24:36,074 --> 00:24:37,375 Absolutely true story 466 00:24:37,508 --> 00:24:40,144 because I thought, "I'm in America, New York 467 00:24:40,278 --> 00:24:42,280 and I'm trying to sound like a black singer." 468 00:24:42,413 --> 00:24:44,382 And there's gonna be loads of black people out there 469 00:24:44,515 --> 00:24:46,851 and they'll throw things at me." "Phoney!" "Fake!" 470 00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:50,722 But lo and behold, I came out and it was all loads of hippies. 471 00:24:51,222 --> 00:24:54,625 And it was the start of a wonderful, wonderful career. 472 00:24:55,026 --> 00:24:56,361 We stormed the place. 473 00:24:56,494 --> 00:24:58,329 We blew the dead off the stage. 474 00:24:59,163 --> 00:25:01,132 Robert Shelton from the New York Times 475 00:25:01,265 --> 00:25:02,800 gave us a write up. 476 00:25:02,934 --> 00:25:06,304 Peter Grant rang me at 7am, said "Have you read the review?" 477 00:25:06,437 --> 00:25:08,506 "I don't wanna hear it." He said, "No, it's amazing." 478 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,008 He read it to me, 479 00:25:10,141 --> 00:25:12,377 about the Pinter play, the interaction of... 480 00:25:13,478 --> 00:25:16,481 And I read it and I thought, "Right, what do we do now?" 481 00:25:16,614 --> 00:25:19,350 We had it reproduced and sent ahead. 482 00:25:19,484 --> 00:25:21,719 We had it sent through all the places 483 00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:23,588 on the way to the west coast. 484 00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:26,357 So by the time we got to Fillmore West, 485 00:25:27,258 --> 00:25:31,029 we'd already broken the ground, 486 00:25:31,162 --> 00:25:33,431 and broken into the American scene, 487 00:25:33,564 --> 00:25:34,766 which was fantastic. 488 00:25:34,966 --> 00:25:37,168 We all decided to try and write songs 489 00:25:37,602 --> 00:25:40,571 and Ronnie and I sat around his mum's council flat 490 00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:43,341 for hours and hours with a blank piece of paper 491 00:25:43,474 --> 00:25:46,344 until we got a bottle of wine out and we finished that. 492 00:25:46,711 --> 00:25:49,447 Then we were able to write a song called 'Plynth'. 493 00:26:24,982 --> 00:26:26,284 'Plynth', I'm very proud of 494 00:26:26,417 --> 00:26:27,718 'cause that was one of my compositions 495 00:26:27,852 --> 00:26:28,786 where I wrote the words. 496 00:26:28,986 --> 00:26:31,055 Moisture from the ocean fills the sky 497 00:26:31,189 --> 00:26:33,724 Falls back down to the ground as time goes by 498 00:26:43,868 --> 00:26:47,071 I was very proud of my bass sound and that whole thing 499 00:26:47,205 --> 00:26:49,507 with the drums and the guitar. 500 00:26:49,674 --> 00:26:53,578 And Rod's soulful singing, and Nicky's piano playing. 501 00:26:53,711 --> 00:26:55,780 It was a magic combination. 502 00:26:56,180 --> 00:26:57,582 It was an honour to be in the band, 503 00:26:57,715 --> 00:26:59,083 to be quite honest with you, 504 00:26:59,217 --> 00:27:02,553 along with Micky Waller and Nicky Hopkins, 505 00:27:02,687 --> 00:27:04,355 and Ronnie Wood, it was a great band. 506 00:27:04,489 --> 00:27:07,058 If you think about how long ago that was and 507 00:27:07,458 --> 00:27:09,961 what an impact they must have had at the time... 508 00:27:10,094 --> 00:27:12,330 He's so unique and original. 509 00:27:12,463 --> 00:27:14,432 'Truth' and 'Beck-Ola' really stood out, 510 00:27:14,565 --> 00:27:16,267 sort of benchmark rock 'n' roll records. 511 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,036 Definitely big statements for the time. 512 00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:21,839 The sounds of those records are definitely... 513 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:27,311 I still use them as touchstones for even what I do today 514 00:27:27,445 --> 00:27:30,882 because nothing sounds like those records. 515 00:27:31,048 --> 00:27:33,050 And I was lucky enough to see them live 516 00:27:33,184 --> 00:27:36,154 two or three times and it was really exciting. 517 00:27:36,287 --> 00:27:38,256 You never knew if he was gonna show up or not. 518 00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:40,024 I mean, some of the stories about 519 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:42,460 quitting in the middle of a tour, I mean that's like... 520 00:27:43,127 --> 00:27:45,396 You know, that's pretty heavy. 521 00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:47,198 But that's Jeff. 522 00:27:48,065 --> 00:27:50,234 There was a rift between me and Rod at that time. 523 00:27:50,368 --> 00:27:51,569 I don't know how it came about. 524 00:27:51,702 --> 00:27:53,604 It cast a bit of doubt, you know, like... 525 00:27:54,605 --> 00:27:56,841 I didn't wanna bank too much on the next tour 526 00:27:56,974 --> 00:27:58,142 in case it didn't happen. 527 00:27:58,276 --> 00:28:02,847 I saw this big festival looming up on the calendar 528 00:28:04,148 --> 00:28:05,383 and I was nervous about it. 529 00:28:05,516 --> 00:28:07,418 I thought we're not ready for that. 530 00:28:08,019 --> 00:28:10,655 We're not ready to go up against Sly and the Family Stone. 531 00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:13,357 The Woodstock Festival was 2 weeks away 532 00:28:13,724 --> 00:28:18,162 when the Beck Group kind of collapsed. 533 00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:20,164 And I thought, "It's a shame, 534 00:28:20,298 --> 00:28:22,800 because there's a big gig coming up in a couple of weeks." 535 00:28:23,401 --> 00:28:24,435 Woodstock. 536 00:28:25,102 --> 00:28:27,305 He disappeared, in the middle of the night. 537 00:28:27,438 --> 00:28:28,706 Next morning, he was gone. 538 00:28:29,006 --> 00:28:30,775 We get a phone call, "Jeff gone home." 539 00:28:30,908 --> 00:28:32,043 When I saw the film 540 00:28:32,176 --> 00:28:34,212 I just thought, "Thank God for my integrity. 541 00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:37,548 Thank God that the little birdie whispered 'Don't do it'." 542 00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:39,116 Because I'd have been up there 543 00:28:39,250 --> 00:28:42,720 dated and frozen with that image, 544 00:28:42,853 --> 00:28:45,189 with the music not being quite right. 545 00:28:46,023 --> 00:28:47,024 I did the right thing. 546 00:28:47,291 --> 00:28:49,827 He could've explained it to us and that would've made sense. 547 00:28:49,961 --> 00:28:52,496 But I do agree, I'm glad we didn't do it. 548 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:55,833 Once again, I'm back to my mum's house again. 549 00:28:56,934 --> 00:29:01,038 He's not particularly wrapped up in his success. 550 00:29:01,205 --> 00:29:06,143 Just assume not discuss music and the guitar. 551 00:29:06,777 --> 00:29:09,247 Rather talk about the movies that he likes 552 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:12,783 and certainly his cars. 553 00:29:13,217 --> 00:29:15,319 My gran used to take me to the cinema 554 00:29:15,453 --> 00:29:18,623 and she took me to see a posh film, 555 00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:21,926 but the supporting film was Hot Rod Gang. 556 00:29:22,059 --> 00:29:24,495 She just freaked out and said, "This is not suitable." 557 00:29:24,629 --> 00:29:26,230 Because the word 'gang' was in it. 558 00:29:26,364 --> 00:29:27,999 And she said, "Right, we're leaving." 559 00:29:28,132 --> 00:29:29,634 "Let's go out of the cinema 560 00:29:29,767 --> 00:29:31,669 and come back when the main feature starts." 561 00:29:31,802 --> 00:29:32,870 I clung onto the seat. 562 00:29:36,507 --> 00:29:38,509 The opening sequence shows these two hot rods 563 00:29:38,643 --> 00:29:41,912 racing one another on opposite sides of the street. 564 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:43,014 Totally cool. 565 00:29:43,381 --> 00:29:45,449 And I was hit, smitten right away. 566 00:29:48,085 --> 00:29:50,688 For a B movie, it was pretty nonsensical. 567 00:29:51,389 --> 00:29:53,257 I still watch it from time to time, 568 00:29:53,824 --> 00:29:55,593 as it was such a massive impact. 569 00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:57,161 Come on, let's go! 570 00:29:57,461 --> 00:29:59,063 Hot Rods has always been his passion 571 00:29:59,196 --> 00:30:00,798 from when he was really young, 572 00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:02,166 and then he started building them. 573 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:04,101 The way he puts it most of the time, 574 00:30:04,235 --> 00:30:06,604 you know, music and guitar is his job 575 00:30:06,737 --> 00:30:09,540 and that's his pastime 576 00:30:09,674 --> 00:30:11,575 when he gets back home off tour. 577 00:30:12,543 --> 00:30:14,679 He's always tinkered with his cars 578 00:30:14,812 --> 00:30:16,747 since as long as I've known him. 579 00:30:16,881 --> 00:30:18,849 I think the first time I went to his house 580 00:30:19,283 --> 00:30:22,119 the hood of his Corvette was open, 581 00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:23,688 he might've been under the hood. 582 00:30:23,821 --> 00:30:24,689 The fact that 583 00:30:24,822 --> 00:30:27,725 Jeff builds those cars and does it so well, 584 00:30:28,192 --> 00:30:31,162 it's obvious he's a man of two passions, I think. 585 00:30:31,529 --> 00:30:32,663 Guitar and cars. 586 00:30:32,797 --> 00:30:35,299 Your senses are sharpened because you built it. 587 00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:38,402 Even if you had a professionally built car, 588 00:30:38,536 --> 00:30:41,939 you're still driving an early car. 589 00:30:42,073 --> 00:30:44,442 Maybe a Ford or a Chevy, 30s. 590 00:30:45,142 --> 00:30:47,912 And they don't handle the same as a late model car. 591 00:30:48,713 --> 00:30:51,449 And I'm going over this hill, no top of the car, 592 00:30:51,582 --> 00:30:54,518 just 30 mph over this little gentle incline, 593 00:30:55,252 --> 00:30:57,221 get to the top of it and the car starts to go 594 00:30:57,355 --> 00:30:59,223 straight onto the oncoming traffic, 595 00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:01,392 without me touching the wheel. 596 00:31:02,059 --> 00:31:04,729 I turn the wheel in the opposite lock and it still kept going. 597 00:31:04,862 --> 00:31:08,599 I hit this poor chap in this Morris Traveller, head on. 598 00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:11,702 Broke his legs, broke my face up, 599 00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:15,639 back injury, leg injury. 600 00:31:15,906 --> 00:31:18,743 I got taken into Maidstone General, who were amazing. 601 00:31:18,876 --> 00:31:20,044 I mean, just incredible. 602 00:31:20,311 --> 00:31:22,446 We had a cheerful chappy that used to come round 603 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,582 and shave you and bring you tea. 604 00:31:24,949 --> 00:31:25,850 I was recovering 605 00:31:25,983 --> 00:31:29,653 and then this guy decided to bring me a music paper. 606 00:31:29,787 --> 00:31:31,222 He was a Scouser, he went: 607 00:31:31,555 --> 00:31:33,824 "Your mate's gone joined The Faces." 608 00:31:34,024 --> 00:31:34,925 I went, "Terrific." 609 00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:37,762 You didn't need to hear that right at that particular time. 610 00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:40,664 I think the biggest problem for Jeff is finding somebody 611 00:31:40,798 --> 00:31:44,769 to front the band that really fit what he's doing. 612 00:31:44,902 --> 00:31:50,107 He had arguably one of the best singers at the time in his band. 613 00:31:51,041 --> 00:31:53,010 How long did that band last? A couple of years? 614 00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:56,480 Rod Stewart was great, but more often than not, 615 00:31:56,614 --> 00:31:57,782 I think one of the reasons 616 00:31:57,915 --> 00:31:59,717 why he ended up being an instrumentalist 617 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:01,318 is just that it was hard to find anybody 618 00:32:01,452 --> 00:32:05,656 that really interpreted the music correctly, 619 00:32:05,790 --> 00:32:08,492 or just had the right energy, or whatever it was. 620 00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:13,597 I got to Epic in mid '72 621 00:32:14,298 --> 00:32:17,168 and the Orange album had come out a few months before that. 622 00:32:17,301 --> 00:32:19,437 The name of the album is Jeff Beck Group, 623 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:22,373 but we all always referred to it as the Orange album 624 00:32:22,506 --> 00:32:24,875 because there was a photo of the orange on the cover. 625 00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:52,803 I started looking round for players that could really... 626 00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:55,739 Like drummers, I was always focused on drummers. 627 00:32:55,873 --> 00:32:59,677 They are the life of the band, they are the driving force. 628 00:33:00,077 --> 00:33:03,280 You get your drummer right, you're pretty much set for life. 629 00:33:03,414 --> 00:33:04,782 We obviously lost 630 00:33:04,915 --> 00:33:07,451 a lot of regular contact, but when I did see Jeff, 631 00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:11,088 he'd always be keen on his latest line-up. 632 00:33:11,222 --> 00:33:13,224 He'd always rave about different drummers. 633 00:33:13,357 --> 00:33:15,559 He'd say: "I've got this guy called Cosy Powell. 634 00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:16,861 Listen to what I'm doing." 635 00:33:16,994 --> 00:33:18,062 I loved Cosy. 636 00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:21,332 I picked him out of a line-up of 20-odd drummers. 637 00:33:21,932 --> 00:33:25,603 Mickie Most's secretary organised this whole audition. 638 00:33:26,203 --> 00:33:28,272 And she said, "Jeff, I know you're late 639 00:33:28,405 --> 00:33:30,875 but you don't need to look at anybody else. 640 00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,177 There's your brother over there." 641 00:33:33,844 --> 00:33:36,380 Looking like the same, same hair. 642 00:33:36,881 --> 00:33:38,782 "Alright, hi, Jeff, I'm Cosy." 643 00:33:39,149 --> 00:33:40,718 Then he started playing. 644 00:33:41,185 --> 00:33:43,020 And you saw people putting their cymbals 645 00:33:43,153 --> 00:33:44,288 back in their cases. 646 00:33:45,356 --> 00:33:48,192 They were packing their drums ready, they knew that was it. 647 00:33:48,325 --> 00:33:51,762 Then Max Middleton came up with the idea 648 00:33:51,896 --> 00:33:53,797 of a simple melody, a bluesy thing, 649 00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:55,432 with a bottleneck. 650 00:33:55,699 --> 00:33:58,135 And he said, "Why don't we write three melodies?" 651 00:33:58,702 --> 00:34:00,571 And there are three melodies in there. 652 00:34:00,704 --> 00:34:02,706 One plays the counter melody 653 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,643 and then there's a third descant on top of that. 654 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:09,647 And I remember thinking this is a cacophony of noise. 655 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,535 Steve Cropper came down and said, 656 00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:33,871 "Man, this is really amazing." 657 00:34:34,305 --> 00:34:37,074 Because I was doing these parts individually and dubbing on. 658 00:34:37,908 --> 00:34:41,211 And I wasn't hearing the blend, I was only doing individually. 659 00:34:41,345 --> 00:34:43,714 Because if I'd heard guitar number 1, 660 00:34:43,881 --> 00:34:46,116 I would not have been able to play against it. 661 00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:50,154 And when I went up and heard all three put together, you know, 662 00:34:50,287 --> 00:34:52,690 "Let's buy Max a round of drinks for that one." 663 00:34:53,057 --> 00:34:54,391 I think there's no question 664 00:34:54,525 --> 00:34:58,462 that 'Definitely Maybe' led the way to 'Blow by Blow'. 665 00:34:58,896 --> 00:35:01,832 With a detour, with Jeff there's always a detour. 666 00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:10,140 Well, I've always liked 667 00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:14,044 playing on other people's records and not being named. 668 00:35:14,345 --> 00:35:18,515 I mean, that thing where Stevie calls out Jeff 669 00:35:18,816 --> 00:35:21,385 on 'Looking For Another Pure Love' 670 00:35:24,688 --> 00:35:25,723 Do it, Jeff. 671 00:35:41,138 --> 00:35:45,576 And it is actually great when it happens but I think... 672 00:35:45,709 --> 00:35:49,380 I, like Jeff, like playing on records 673 00:35:49,513 --> 00:35:52,383 where we're just kind of the mystery agent 674 00:35:52,516 --> 00:35:55,719 and we like the idea... I like the idea of someone 675 00:35:55,853 --> 00:35:59,857 being able to identify me by what I'm playing. 676 00:36:00,024 --> 00:36:03,827 Stevie's record company needed him to do something. 677 00:36:03,961 --> 00:36:05,963 And I wasn't doing anything. 678 00:36:06,096 --> 00:36:09,500 And Epic said, "What if we got you in the studio with Stevie?" 679 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:12,102 I couldn't wait for this to happen. 680 00:36:12,903 --> 00:36:16,674 So the deal was I was to play a couple of tracks 681 00:36:16,807 --> 00:36:18,375 on Stevie's album 'Talking Book' 682 00:36:18,509 --> 00:36:20,210 and he'd write me a couple of tracks, 683 00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:21,779 one of which was 'Superstition'. 684 00:36:22,179 --> 00:36:24,081 He said, "What about we write a song, 685 00:36:24,214 --> 00:36:27,785 we get a song with superstitions that you know about?" 686 00:36:28,385 --> 00:36:30,688 "That we Americans maybe don't know about." 687 00:36:30,821 --> 00:36:34,091 And I said, "Well, we don't walk under ladders for bad luck." 688 00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:36,627 And I said, "If you dropped a mirror, 689 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,362 that would be 7 years' bad luck." 690 00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:41,398 I started playing the drums 691 00:36:41,532 --> 00:36:44,435 in a break, he'd gone out for lunch, and he'd come back 692 00:36:44,568 --> 00:36:46,804 and he was clapping along to my beat...my rhythm. 693 00:36:47,337 --> 00:36:51,041 I said, "Stevie, it's not... I'm not a drummer." 694 00:36:51,175 --> 00:36:53,043 He goes, "Yeah, you are now. 695 00:36:53,944 --> 00:36:55,012 Don't stop." 696 00:36:55,145 --> 00:36:59,717 He just grabbed the clavinet and started playing that vamp. 697 00:37:00,584 --> 00:37:02,953 And I'm thinking, "Christ, I'm playing drums 698 00:37:03,087 --> 00:37:04,154 to Stevie Wonder." 699 00:37:04,421 --> 00:37:05,456 They were pretty cool, 700 00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:07,624 just a simple thing that I could play. 701 00:37:08,425 --> 00:37:10,928 And then he went, "OK, I'll lay the track down." 702 00:37:11,562 --> 00:37:13,931 'Cause I was messing up with the fills and stuff. 703 00:37:14,198 --> 00:37:16,033 And he came and sat at the same kit 704 00:37:16,166 --> 00:37:17,935 and played exactly what I was playing, 705 00:37:18,168 --> 00:37:19,203 but better. 706 00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:23,540 And he made space for a five-chord turnaround, 707 00:37:24,608 --> 00:37:25,576 all right away, 708 00:37:25,709 --> 00:37:27,911 and then he went straight in and put a bassline on 709 00:37:28,045 --> 00:37:28,946 and that was it. 710 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:30,380 When that bassline came 711 00:37:30,514 --> 00:37:33,183 the whole studio turned upside down. 712 00:37:33,951 --> 00:37:36,353 Then he went and put the lyrics on, 713 00:37:36,487 --> 00:37:38,255 and that was how that song was made. 714 00:38:04,648 --> 00:38:06,250 Jeff, do your thing, son! 715 00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:27,104 But then, when the demo went back to Motown, 716 00:38:27,437 --> 00:38:28,772 Berry Gordy heard it, he said, 717 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,108 "This is the best thing you've ever written." 718 00:38:32,409 --> 00:38:34,611 So, out comes Stevie's single 719 00:38:34,745 --> 00:38:36,079 and it's a smash, number one, 720 00:38:36,213 --> 00:38:38,382 and it still is the biggest seller, I think, 721 00:38:38,749 --> 00:38:40,284 of all time of his singles. 722 00:38:41,018 --> 00:38:43,954 And it worked out OK because it was a much better version 723 00:38:44,087 --> 00:38:45,889 than the one we did, I think. 724 00:38:46,523 --> 00:38:48,225 We did a heavy metal version. 725 00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:50,460 I don't think he cared for it too much. 726 00:38:50,594 --> 00:38:53,363 When I heard Stevie Wonder's version of that song, 727 00:38:53,497 --> 00:38:55,632 that's a definitive version of that song, you know. 728 00:38:55,766 --> 00:38:58,235 Nobody should ever cover it, just leave it alone 729 00:38:58,368 --> 00:39:01,038 otherwise it'll just sound like a bar band butchering it. 730 00:39:02,372 --> 00:39:05,609 Not so with Jeff Beck. Not so. 731 00:39:05,876 --> 00:39:08,645 And when Beck, Bogert & Appice recorded it, 732 00:39:08,779 --> 00:39:11,181 it stood on its own like another entity again. 733 00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:12,382 They were great. 734 00:39:12,516 --> 00:39:15,052 They were just incredibly exciting to play with. 735 00:39:15,385 --> 00:39:17,187 I'd seen the Fudge three or four times. 736 00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:18,388 They blew me away. 737 00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:20,157 It's pretty powerful. 738 00:39:36,073 --> 00:39:36,974 Unknowingly, 739 00:39:37,107 --> 00:39:39,476 maybe Stevie had written the ultimate power trio song 740 00:39:39,877 --> 00:39:42,846 because the double bass drums that Carmine used were perfect. 741 00:39:43,547 --> 00:39:45,883 Timmy's busy bass playing with that riff. 742 00:39:46,049 --> 00:39:46,984 What more could... 743 00:39:47,117 --> 00:39:49,219 They sang as well, so we got two singers, 744 00:39:49,353 --> 00:39:50,654 a bass player and a drummer. 745 00:39:50,787 --> 00:39:52,389 Good morning, it's over. 746 00:40:17,481 --> 00:40:19,783 I mean, there's a certain amount of "fuck you-ness" 747 00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:21,985 to everything Jeff does. 748 00:40:23,353 --> 00:40:27,257 And I think there's a big dose of that in that song. 749 00:40:27,724 --> 00:40:28,725 But unfortunately, 750 00:40:29,259 --> 00:40:32,796 we couldn't match any song to that level, that quality. 751 00:40:33,497 --> 00:40:35,732 So there was never really a proper album. 752 00:40:35,866 --> 00:40:39,002 We toured and we were knocking people out the park. 753 00:40:39,136 --> 00:40:40,003 It was great. 754 00:40:40,203 --> 00:40:42,105 We played Crystal Palace 755 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,008 and, you know, girls swimming across this pond 756 00:40:45,142 --> 00:40:46,743 to get to the front of the stage. 757 00:40:46,877 --> 00:40:47,744 It was great. 758 00:40:48,445 --> 00:40:50,314 And I thought, "Well, this isn't gonna wait." 759 00:40:50,447 --> 00:40:52,716 And we were getting a ridiculously good response. 760 00:40:52,883 --> 00:40:55,852 And then along comes the mental writer's blocks. 761 00:40:55,986 --> 00:40:57,587 We weren't writing very good songs. 762 00:40:57,921 --> 00:40:59,990 They were making a second album 763 00:41:00,290 --> 00:41:02,759 and it just kind of petered out. 764 00:41:04,127 --> 00:41:08,999 The managers had to get together and effect a divorce. 765 00:41:10,233 --> 00:41:12,869 The record company didn't have a whole lot to do with it. 766 00:41:13,003 --> 00:41:15,739 We were observers, spectators. 767 00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:17,708 It just exploded, you know. 768 00:41:18,342 --> 00:41:19,309 Sadly, it did. 769 00:41:19,509 --> 00:41:20,577 He's not as wrapped up 770 00:41:20,711 --> 00:41:23,347 in being a rock star and that whole thing. 771 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,416 He can be true to his art and still take... 772 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:28,885 He leaves it there, then he goes home, 773 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,688 works on his cars, lives out in the country. 774 00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:37,027 So I think he's found a really good balance between the two. 775 00:41:37,361 --> 00:41:38,528 I was working on 776 00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:40,831 the wrecked rod of the '69 accident 777 00:41:41,465 --> 00:41:43,600 and I had a transistor radio playing. 778 00:41:43,734 --> 00:41:45,902 I was lying on the ground doing something, 779 00:41:46,036 --> 00:41:47,871 doing this back axle or whatever. 780 00:41:48,472 --> 00:41:51,174 Rainwater was streaming past me and I thought, 781 00:41:51,308 --> 00:41:53,777 “I'm in the gutter, I've ended up back in the gutter." 782 00:41:53,944 --> 00:41:55,779 And it almost washed the radio away. 783 00:41:56,646 --> 00:42:01,818 And it was McLaughlin playing on Jack Johnson. 784 00:42:02,786 --> 00:42:03,854 That amazing album. 785 00:42:31,515 --> 00:42:34,518 Miles, I mean please. It's a wonderful thing. 786 00:42:34,651 --> 00:42:37,020 And then you hear McLaughlin going in there. 787 00:42:37,721 --> 00:42:40,223 And it was a moment where I just went in, 788 00:42:40,357 --> 00:42:42,426 stopped work, went in and made a cup of tea 789 00:42:42,759 --> 00:42:43,894 continued listening, 790 00:42:45,128 --> 00:42:49,132 and that was it, I just thought there's a door open now. 791 00:42:49,299 --> 00:42:51,034 This is what I wanna do. 792 00:42:51,868 --> 00:42:54,438 It's more focused on guitar only, 793 00:42:54,604 --> 00:42:57,908 and it negates the necessity for a vocalist. 794 00:42:58,175 --> 00:43:00,410 There's no point in going round the world 795 00:43:00,544 --> 00:43:02,212 trying to find another Rod Stewart. 796 00:43:07,484 --> 00:43:10,120 What a great line-up of musicians. 797 00:43:10,454 --> 00:43:12,789 The brilliant Max Middleton playing keyboards. 798 00:43:13,256 --> 00:43:15,725 Richard Bailey and Phil Chenn on drums and bass 799 00:43:15,859 --> 00:43:18,428 and produced by George Martin at AIR Studios. 800 00:43:19,129 --> 00:43:21,364 I gave the album the title 'Blow by Blow' 801 00:43:21,498 --> 00:43:24,267 because the word 'blow' means many things. 802 00:43:24,935 --> 00:43:28,305 But I was using it in the sense of a jazz thing. 803 00:43:28,438 --> 00:43:32,242 When you do an extemporary bit, you are giving it a blow. 804 00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:36,246 To look at the joy on George's face 805 00:43:36,379 --> 00:43:38,648 when he discovered that we were gonna have fun. 806 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:42,986 Jeff and I met up and he invited me to the studio 807 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,588 and he was telling me how George 808 00:43:44,721 --> 00:43:47,390 was really just letting him play and stretch. 809 00:43:47,524 --> 00:43:49,025 He was recording all the things 810 00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:52,028 and then making the finished version. 811 00:43:52,162 --> 00:43:54,364 He was somebody who would really understand 812 00:43:54,998 --> 00:43:57,234 the precision of Jeff's playing 813 00:43:57,367 --> 00:43:59,669 and just how different and how separate it was 814 00:43:59,803 --> 00:44:01,004 from anybody elses. 815 00:44:01,138 --> 00:44:02,539 George Martin really understood 816 00:44:02,672 --> 00:44:04,341 that Jeff was a serious musician. 817 00:44:04,474 --> 00:44:08,879 He wasn't a producer with a singular vision 818 00:44:09,012 --> 00:44:12,382 of how he thought it would be that he would want to impose. 819 00:44:12,516 --> 00:44:14,551 I don't suppose anyone would have much luck 820 00:44:14,684 --> 00:44:16,186 imposing their vision on Jeff. 821 00:44:17,387 --> 00:44:21,525 Jeff could be temperamental, but never a big problem. 822 00:44:21,658 --> 00:44:23,927 I mean, if he felt frustrated 823 00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:27,330 because he wouldn't be getting what he wanted, 824 00:44:27,697 --> 00:44:29,633 sometimes he would get very upset 825 00:44:29,766 --> 00:44:31,701 and in fact he did fling his guitar 826 00:44:32,068 --> 00:44:33,603 right across the studio at one point. 827 00:44:33,737 --> 00:44:36,006 But people are temperamental, that's all right. 828 00:44:36,139 --> 00:44:37,274 They blow off steam. 829 00:44:37,407 --> 00:44:39,910 As long as they don't throw it at me, I'm all right. 830 00:44:40,043 --> 00:44:42,579 We didn't have any problems, we got on very well. 831 00:44:43,246 --> 00:44:45,549 He loves exploring the guitar 832 00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:49,719 and when he does hear something that catches his ear 833 00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:53,857 or gives him a new idea, he gets deeply into it. 834 00:44:54,157 --> 00:44:57,127 John McLaughlin was kicking my back at the time. 835 00:44:57,260 --> 00:45:00,497 The Mahavishnu Orchestra, that played a big part. 836 00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:01,598 Jeff's always said 837 00:45:01,731 --> 00:45:03,733 the Mahavishnu Orchestra is like his 'one'. 838 00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:06,303 He still holds it as his Holy Grail. 839 00:45:06,436 --> 00:45:09,406 "This is what inspired me to start pushing things 840 00:45:09,539 --> 00:45:10,407 to the next level." 841 00:45:10,540 --> 00:45:13,210 One tune that has some of that Mahavishnu feel 842 00:45:13,343 --> 00:45:14,844 is 'Scatterbrain'. 843 00:45:15,145 --> 00:45:17,847 It started as a schizophrenic run that I did 844 00:45:17,981 --> 00:45:19,983 when I was nervous in a dressing room. 845 00:45:20,383 --> 00:45:22,118 2 seconds before going on, I went... 846 00:45:23,587 --> 00:45:27,390 And Max being the calculated S.O.B that he is, 847 00:45:27,824 --> 00:45:30,994 he said, "You know that annoying scale you play, 848 00:45:31,461 --> 00:45:33,430 I've written some chords underneath it." 849 00:45:34,164 --> 00:45:36,132 He said, "If you move it up a semi-tone, 850 00:45:36,266 --> 00:45:38,201 I can make a track out of it." 851 00:45:38,501 --> 00:45:40,670 And before we knew it, we had this song. 852 00:45:46,409 --> 00:45:52,015 Yeah, that's a really... It's a chop buster, that song. 853 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:12,235 He really was getting away 854 00:46:12,369 --> 00:46:15,272 from the straight rock stuff that he was doing. 855 00:46:15,405 --> 00:46:17,674 And he wanted to open it up to a more melodic 856 00:46:17,807 --> 00:46:20,977 and a little softer and jazzier angle. 857 00:46:21,611 --> 00:46:22,612 George loved it. 858 00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:25,582 And he started putting the string arrangements to it. 859 00:46:26,583 --> 00:46:30,587 Just bare bones creativity on the spot. 860 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,670 When I suggested to him that we use an orchestra with it, 861 00:46:47,037 --> 00:46:49,306 he was a little bit taken aback, I think. 862 00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:52,876 And for me, it was a fairly risky thing 863 00:46:53,009 --> 00:46:55,245 because Jeff had never done this before. 864 00:46:55,612 --> 00:46:58,615 And I wondered whether the audience would accept 865 00:46:58,748 --> 00:47:02,552 the fact that Jeff Beck was working with a string sound. 866 00:47:02,686 --> 00:47:04,287 George was open to anything 867 00:47:04,421 --> 00:47:07,791 and the most encouraging, the most kindest person. 868 00:47:08,591 --> 00:47:10,193 And boy, did he get a great sound. 869 00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:11,628 'Cause We've Ended As Lovers' 870 00:47:11,761 --> 00:47:14,998 is the stand-out track of all time for me. 871 00:47:15,131 --> 00:47:16,966 I mean, I just think that is Jeff 872 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:20,036 at his most beautiful, lyrical... 873 00:47:21,371 --> 00:47:23,073 It's a Stevie Wonder song, of course, 874 00:47:23,206 --> 00:47:25,208 which must be pointed out. 875 00:47:26,543 --> 00:47:29,212 When I heard that album I just thought, "Oh, wow." 876 00:47:29,346 --> 00:47:31,715 Her voice was like a crystal stream flowing. 877 00:47:31,848 --> 00:47:34,417 And I started playing 'Cause We've Ended As Lovers', 878 00:47:34,551 --> 00:47:36,820 playing the melody that Syreeta sang. 879 00:47:37,153 --> 00:47:39,522 Max Middleton said, "That's beautiful, what is it?" 880 00:47:39,789 --> 00:47:41,591 And I played him the Syreeta version, he went, 881 00:47:41,725 --> 00:47:43,426 "Why don't we do that as an instrumental?" 882 00:48:00,910 --> 00:48:03,046 Jeffs an amazing person 883 00:48:03,179 --> 00:48:06,082 because he can get the most incredible sound 884 00:48:06,216 --> 00:48:07,650 out of an electric guitar. 885 00:48:08,118 --> 00:48:10,587 Even after he's flung it across the studio, 886 00:48:10,854 --> 00:48:13,623 he will still pick it up, wiggle it a bit, 887 00:48:13,757 --> 00:48:15,024 and make great sounds. 888 00:48:15,258 --> 00:48:18,228 And he uses the guitar as his voice. 889 00:48:18,361 --> 00:48:20,096 He sings with his guitar. 890 00:48:20,797 --> 00:48:23,366 And I don't know any other guitar player like it. 891 00:48:44,387 --> 00:48:46,723 'Blow By Blow' was an instantaneous success 892 00:48:46,856 --> 00:48:47,724 upon release. 893 00:48:47,857 --> 00:48:49,659 It really look off like a rocket, 894 00:48:49,793 --> 00:48:50,827 shot up the charts. 895 00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:53,496 Turns out that lots of Jeff Beck fans out there 896 00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:55,632 were just waiting for an album 897 00:48:55,765 --> 00:48:59,502 in which they could hear him play maximum guitar. 898 00:48:59,736 --> 00:49:00,703 Max and George, 899 00:49:00,837 --> 00:49:03,006 the two of them were like two peas in a pod 900 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,275 because of their musicianship, the keyboard... 901 00:49:05,408 --> 00:49:07,477 Max would come up with these twisted chords, 902 00:49:08,278 --> 00:49:12,148 enter the Pork Pie Hat with the Charlie Mingus stuff. 903 00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:15,318 'Goodbye Pork Pie Hat', written by Charles Mingus, 904 00:49:15,452 --> 00:49:19,322 is an ode, really, to the great sax player, Lester Young. 905 00:49:19,489 --> 00:49:20,790 It really stands out 906 00:49:21,124 --> 00:49:23,526 as being something very special and different. 907 00:49:23,693 --> 00:49:26,229 Something unexpected from Jeff. 908 00:49:26,362 --> 00:49:28,598 After we finished, there was dead silence. 909 00:49:28,731 --> 00:49:29,632 I went, "Oh..." 910 00:49:30,433 --> 00:49:32,469 And George went... You could hear the button go, 911 00:49:32,602 --> 00:49:34,838 and he said, "Jeff, that was very tasteful." 912 00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:58,821 To this day, I tell people, "Boy, if you wanna learn guitar 913 00:50:58,955 --> 00:51:01,090 there's all the scales and arpeggios and stuff, 914 00:51:01,224 --> 00:51:03,159 but you need to learn two solos." 915 00:51:03,293 --> 00:51:06,563 And they're both relatively easy to learn because they're slow, 916 00:51:06,696 --> 00:51:08,831 'Goodbye Pork Pie Hat' on 'Wired' 917 00:51:08,965 --> 00:51:10,500 and 'Cause We've Ended As Lovers' 918 00:51:10,633 --> 00:51:13,770 'cause that's where the feel is. 919 00:51:29,886 --> 00:51:32,188 I got a letter from Charlie Mingus, 920 00:51:32,322 --> 00:51:33,656 and it said, "Dear Jeff, 921 00:51:33,790 --> 00:51:36,793 I was so knocked out with your version of 'Pork Pie Hat'." 922 00:51:40,129 --> 00:51:42,198 That's when we had the world at our feet. 923 00:51:42,332 --> 00:51:43,633 We could do anything we wanted. 924 00:51:43,766 --> 00:51:48,638 Jeff is like a rock 'n' roll musician who understands jazz. 925 00:51:49,238 --> 00:51:52,141 That's a very rare animal. 926 00:51:52,275 --> 00:51:54,744 We went to see Mahavishnu Orchestra in Zurich. 927 00:51:54,877 --> 00:51:56,479 We were playing in the same week 928 00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:59,983 so we ended up being at a party in the same hotel. 929 00:52:00,283 --> 00:52:02,185 We had the greatest time. 930 00:52:02,318 --> 00:52:04,454 I got to know the Mahavishnu Orchestra. 931 00:52:04,587 --> 00:52:07,824 McLaughlin, Jan Hammer, Billy Cobham, Jerry Goodman. 932 00:52:08,124 --> 00:52:09,258 It was just amazing. 933 00:52:09,993 --> 00:52:13,863 I ended up getting really great contact and talking 934 00:52:13,997 --> 00:52:16,165 because we really had very much in common. 935 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,334 Jan knew me. 936 00:52:18,501 --> 00:52:21,304 He said, "Course I know you, the Yardbirds, 937 00:52:21,437 --> 00:52:22,538 I know all the stuff." 938 00:52:22,672 --> 00:52:25,341 So this is the great bonding session that took place. 939 00:52:25,475 --> 00:52:27,143 This was before 'Wired'. 940 00:52:27,276 --> 00:52:30,513 He was pretty much finished. I think he had some rough mixes. 941 00:52:30,713 --> 00:52:33,549 The album was virtually done, but not finished. 942 00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:35,952 George Martin had to leave. 943 00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:39,288 He was committed to do an album by America. 944 00:52:39,889 --> 00:52:44,894 George left, without the finishing touches 945 00:52:45,828 --> 00:52:47,096 being applied to the album. 946 00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:50,833 There's still some overdubs, certainly some mixing. 947 00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:52,935 So I had to say goodbye to George. 948 00:52:53,536 --> 00:52:54,971 Jan was interested, 949 00:52:55,104 --> 00:52:57,373 I would fly over there and watch this magician 950 00:52:57,507 --> 00:52:59,175 do his stuff on this record. 951 00:52:59,308 --> 00:53:03,012 I just did quick mixes of this, and basically all those mixes 952 00:53:03,146 --> 00:53:05,181 ended up being the masters for the album. 953 00:53:05,314 --> 00:53:07,583 So more than half the album was mixed here. 954 00:53:07,817 --> 00:53:10,353 And then we did one tune from scratch, 955 00:53:10,486 --> 00:53:12,455 which was called 'Blue Wind'. 956 00:53:12,689 --> 00:53:14,691 And he said, "Play this riff." 957 00:53:15,992 --> 00:53:20,396 The two notes, and I said, "Come on, Jan. 958 00:53:21,130 --> 00:53:23,833 This is kiddie stuff." He went, "Trust me." 959 00:53:24,867 --> 00:53:27,103 And I didn't like it at all. 960 00:53:33,142 --> 00:53:36,279 It was a very simple riff and a combination of things. 961 00:53:36,512 --> 00:53:39,048 And by the time I added the drums to it 962 00:53:39,182 --> 00:53:41,951 and my keyboard synthesisers... 963 00:53:42,118 --> 00:53:45,188 He got these Auratones and stuck them on his mantelpiece. 964 00:53:45,321 --> 00:53:48,057 He cranked it and these speakers were shaking. 965 00:53:48,191 --> 00:53:49,992 I went, "OK, I get it now." 966 00:54:08,177 --> 00:54:10,580 It gave a great platform for solos. 967 00:54:11,380 --> 00:54:15,852 It was all about embellishing and showing off, 968 00:54:15,985 --> 00:54:17,620 taking flight with your solos. 969 00:54:46,282 --> 00:54:48,284 It just turned out to be a great tune 970 00:54:48,417 --> 00:54:52,421 that has been living on for decades now. 971 00:55:03,132 --> 00:55:05,468 It was incredible to play with Jan Hammer, 972 00:55:05,601 --> 00:55:06,936 with Jeff Beck at the Hollywood Bowl. 973 00:55:07,069 --> 00:55:09,172 Jeff had always talked about Jan before. 974 00:55:09,305 --> 00:55:11,474 Jeff loves Jan, obviously, they have a great... 975 00:55:11,607 --> 00:55:12,408 ...and vice versa... 976 00:55:12,542 --> 00:55:13,743 ...they have a great relationship. 977 00:55:13,876 --> 00:55:15,711 I'm sitting there, looking at both of them 978 00:55:15,845 --> 00:55:17,413 and watching them interacting. 979 00:55:17,547 --> 00:55:22,251 You can see the years of friendship and mutual respect 980 00:55:22,418 --> 00:55:24,453 and adoration that they have for one another. 981 00:55:43,272 --> 00:55:44,540 'Star Cycle' was interesting 982 00:55:44,674 --> 00:55:47,210 because again, I recorded the whole track here, 983 00:55:48,945 --> 00:55:53,082 in the old studio, with a sequencer, and I played drums. 984 00:55:53,216 --> 00:55:58,421 Then I took the tape to Ramport, The Who's studio, in London. 985 00:55:58,988 --> 00:56:03,726 And we added all the lead parts on top of it. 986 00:56:07,330 --> 00:56:10,032 That song has a very particular melody. 987 00:56:10,166 --> 00:56:12,368 And again, the whole thing Is about the trade-off 988 00:56:12,501 --> 00:56:14,170 between Jan and Jeff. 989 00:56:15,137 --> 00:56:17,473 How their minds work together is incredible. 990 00:56:18,541 --> 00:56:21,477 They can really bounce off of each other and it's just... 991 00:56:22,311 --> 00:56:23,512 It's like fireworks. 992 00:56:47,103 --> 00:56:48,571 He's just inspired 993 00:56:48,771 --> 00:56:51,774 by whatever the dynamic is that's on the stage. 994 00:56:52,208 --> 00:56:55,111 That's what he's looking for, he's looking for inspiration. 995 00:56:55,244 --> 00:57:01,117 A reason to strike that string and make that next sound. 996 00:57:01,250 --> 00:57:03,085 That's the reason I always love playing with him 997 00:57:03,219 --> 00:57:05,021 because it's gonna be so fresh. 998 00:57:05,154 --> 00:57:06,889 And he's gonna pull something out of his sleeve 999 00:57:07,023 --> 00:57:08,457 that makes you say "How did you do that?" 1000 00:57:08,758 --> 00:57:10,393 You think that guitar is so limited 1001 00:57:10,526 --> 00:57:12,461 and people sometimes even demonstrate 1002 00:57:12,628 --> 00:57:16,198 how limited guitar is by playing basically a couple of riffs 1003 00:57:16,332 --> 00:57:17,400 and that's the whole career. 1004 00:57:17,566 --> 00:57:22,605 Jeff has opened it up to so many areas 1005 00:57:22,738 --> 00:57:24,640 that it's really hard to keep up. 1006 00:57:26,776 --> 00:57:29,979 I came back to Epic in 1980 1007 00:57:30,112 --> 00:57:32,848 after the 'There and Back' album, 1008 00:57:32,982 --> 00:57:35,351 during which time I failed to convince Jeff 1009 00:57:36,052 --> 00:57:38,521 to do even one album for Epic. 1010 00:57:39,088 --> 00:57:40,423 Years had gone by 1011 00:57:40,556 --> 00:57:42,425 and I didn't wanna go along with that. 1012 00:57:42,625 --> 00:57:43,726 The '80s, you know, 1013 00:57:43,859 --> 00:57:45,661 'push button music' and all that. 1014 00:57:45,928 --> 00:57:48,564 I certainly visited Jeff at his home. 1015 00:57:48,698 --> 00:57:50,232 He was a most gracious host, 1016 00:57:50,399 --> 00:57:52,601 showed me his cars in the garage, 1017 00:57:52,735 --> 00:57:56,272 which he was spending a significant amount of his time 1018 00:57:56,405 --> 00:57:57,940 working on, very happily. 1019 00:57:58,074 --> 00:57:59,208 There was no place for me 1020 00:57:59,342 --> 00:58:02,178 so I just buried myself in my workshop. 1021 00:58:02,878 --> 00:58:04,146 And it got to the point 1022 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,816 where I think they forgot I was even on Epic label. 1023 00:58:07,583 --> 00:58:10,519 And I ended up driving to different sessions. 1024 00:58:10,786 --> 00:58:13,155 Any artist would be thrilled 1025 00:58:13,289 --> 00:58:15,992 to have Jeff contribute to their work. 1026 00:58:16,158 --> 00:58:20,162 So the fact that over the years he's guested on albums, 1027 00:58:21,097 --> 00:58:24,100 from such a diverse array of acts, 1028 00:58:24,233 --> 00:58:26,869 from Stevie Wonder, to Stanley Clarke, 1029 00:58:27,003 --> 00:58:29,205 to Diana Ross, to Mick Jagger, 1030 00:58:29,372 --> 00:58:31,574 to Tina Turner, on and on and on. 1031 00:58:32,441 --> 00:58:35,644 And I loved guesting with them. I loved every minute of that. 1032 00:58:35,978 --> 00:58:38,581 He's kind of guided his career the way he wanted. 1033 00:58:39,115 --> 00:58:42,151 And there's something to be said for taking time off 1034 00:58:42,651 --> 00:58:43,986 and regrouping, 1035 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,156 rather than having a record company breathing down your neck 1036 00:58:47,289 --> 00:58:48,657 for a new record every year. 1037 00:58:49,392 --> 00:58:52,628 Epic Records thought it'd be a great idea to get an artist 1038 00:58:52,762 --> 00:58:57,166 to drop me a broad hint by painting this surreal garage 1039 00:58:57,299 --> 00:59:00,069 with a guitar up on the ramp, instead of a car. 1040 00:59:00,836 --> 00:59:02,471 I loved it, I love that cover. 1041 00:59:03,339 --> 00:59:04,874 It was me, I mean that was it. 1042 00:59:05,007 --> 00:59:07,209 They couldn't have... They hit it bullseye. 1043 00:59:07,343 --> 00:59:08,344 That was me. 1044 00:59:09,111 --> 00:59:13,315 Without a doubt, 'Guitar Shop' was a real return to form. 1045 00:59:13,716 --> 00:59:15,551 And that was their jolt, you know. 1046 00:59:15,718 --> 00:59:17,153 I put my back into the album 1047 00:59:17,286 --> 00:59:19,221 with Tony Hymas and Terry Bozzio. 1048 00:59:19,555 --> 00:59:22,191 The results were really groundbreaking, in a way, 1049 00:59:22,324 --> 00:59:25,528 for a three-piece to put out so much power. 1050 00:59:25,661 --> 00:59:28,664 It was a power trio with keyboards instead of bass. 1051 00:59:28,864 --> 00:59:31,534 His approach is super, super rhythmic. 1052 00:59:31,867 --> 00:59:33,302 So in order for that to work, 1053 00:59:33,436 --> 00:59:38,274 you have to have a back line that gets it. 1054 00:59:38,507 --> 00:59:41,377 I think Terry Bozzio had a lot to do with that. 1055 00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:44,213 He's worked with amazingly great drummers. 1056 00:59:44,513 --> 00:59:47,983 So, I mean, I've stood in some tall company. 1057 01:00:08,304 --> 01:00:10,639 When you hear the song, it lives up to its name 1058 01:00:10,773 --> 01:00:11,807 of 'Big Block', 1059 01:00:11,941 --> 01:00:15,678 which obviously refers to a large-sized engine 1060 01:00:15,811 --> 01:00:17,046 in an automobile. 1061 01:00:19,849 --> 01:00:21,117 His playing is amazing. 1062 01:00:21,250 --> 01:00:23,119 The 'Big Block' riff is fuckin' awesome. 1063 01:00:23,419 --> 01:00:25,855 The heavy, sexy riff in the middle, 1064 01:00:25,988 --> 01:00:27,289 that was all my stuff. 1065 01:01:00,389 --> 01:01:02,124 Big Block' is great. What a classic. 1066 01:01:02,558 --> 01:01:03,726 What a classic. 1067 01:01:04,059 --> 01:01:05,394 A powerhouse tune. 1068 01:01:06,862 --> 01:01:08,664 That's a pure example, I think, 1069 01:01:08,797 --> 01:01:13,102 of a lot of power and energy that's in Jeff's show. 1070 01:01:13,402 --> 01:01:15,571 It's full of aggression and spirit. 1071 01:01:17,373 --> 01:01:19,808 It's got a nasty overtone to it. 1072 01:01:50,839 --> 01:01:52,174 There's this underlying, 1073 01:01:52,308 --> 01:01:55,010 reoccurring riff that's happening the whole time. 1074 01:01:55,144 --> 01:02:00,583 The main riff on the bass that's low enough to give space 1075 01:02:00,716 --> 01:02:02,685 for the guitar to do absolutely anything. 1076 01:02:02,818 --> 01:02:04,220 So he just goes mental. 1077 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,723 The sounds he gets out of that instrument still shocks me. 1078 01:02:35,784 --> 01:02:38,454 It's so definite, and he so definitely sounds 1079 01:02:38,587 --> 01:02:41,523 like he knows where he's going and exactly what he wants to do 1080 01:02:41,657 --> 01:02:44,093 and he's going to execute it perfectly. 1081 01:02:44,627 --> 01:02:49,331 It's always got melody, but it's also got great attack 1082 01:02:49,465 --> 01:02:52,234 and a sort of aggressive fire to it. 1083 01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:55,371 It's brilliant. 1084 01:03:01,644 --> 01:03:04,146 Jeff not using a pick, I learned a lot from that. 1085 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,881 So I actually alternate 1086 01:03:06,015 --> 01:03:07,883 between using a pick and not using a pick 1087 01:03:08,017 --> 01:03:10,052 because you're just that much more connected 1088 01:03:10,185 --> 01:03:13,455 and there's an emotional thing that happens 1089 01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:17,059 when you do it that way that sings and soars 1090 01:03:17,459 --> 01:03:19,595 above and beyond using a guitar pick. 1091 01:03:19,762 --> 01:03:21,096 The early days in the Yardbirds, 1092 01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:22,598 he was still playing with a pick, 1093 01:03:22,731 --> 01:03:25,367 but then he developed playing without a pick. 1094 01:03:25,668 --> 01:03:30,873 Then he concentrated more on Stratocaster. 1095 01:03:31,006 --> 01:03:35,244 And he had the guitar so fine-tuned 1096 01:03:36,011 --> 01:03:38,814 to every nuance, 1097 01:03:39,948 --> 01:03:42,318 and the tonality of it, the tension of it, 1098 01:03:42,484 --> 01:03:44,887 that he developed a style 1099 01:03:46,922 --> 01:03:48,524 that was totally unique. 1100 01:03:49,992 --> 01:03:52,394 And that's pretty magical. 1101 01:04:01,737 --> 01:04:04,573 'Where Were You', basically, ls impossible. 1102 01:04:05,174 --> 01:04:07,276 It's just an impossible tune. 1103 01:04:07,409 --> 01:04:11,280 It's that song where he plays a melody with harmonics. 1104 01:04:11,814 --> 01:04:15,951 He's got such a sensitive ear 1105 01:04:16,585 --> 01:04:18,487 to know exactly when things are in pitch. 1106 01:04:19,988 --> 01:04:22,157 The way he has his Strat set up 1107 01:04:22,291 --> 01:04:25,127 for whammy bar stuff is quite extraordinary. 1108 01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:29,365 His playing whole melodies on harmonics, 1109 01:04:29,565 --> 01:04:33,535 which are pulled through two or three tones 1110 01:04:33,669 --> 01:04:35,771 in perfect pitch all the time. 1111 01:04:39,842 --> 01:04:42,311 And believe me, I've tried it. 1112 01:04:44,046 --> 01:04:45,481 He makes it sound easy. 1113 01:05:08,337 --> 01:05:10,239 He was invited to come along and play 1114 01:05:10,372 --> 01:05:13,275 at a memorial service for Richard Wright after he died. 1115 01:05:13,809 --> 01:05:16,011 I mean, Rick loved that track. 1116 01:05:16,311 --> 01:05:19,148 Rick often said that he was his favourite guitar player, 1117 01:05:19,281 --> 01:05:20,315 much to my chagrin. 1118 01:05:20,516 --> 01:05:24,486 He came and played it live and it was just like the record. 1119 01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:25,721 And perfect. 1120 01:05:26,822 --> 01:05:30,325 Just to know that that piece, which I wrote, reached people, 1121 01:05:30,459 --> 01:05:31,994 that was very satisfying. 1122 01:05:33,729 --> 01:05:36,465 And Elton told me that he 1123 01:05:36,598 --> 01:05:39,101 and Freddie Mercury used to sit and listen to it. 1124 01:05:39,835 --> 01:05:41,136 I went, "Oh, right?" 1125 01:05:42,771 --> 01:05:44,173 It's amazing, isn't it? 1126 01:05:44,973 --> 01:05:48,076 That some idea ends up on a record 1127 01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:52,047 and then people's lives are affected, in some way. 1128 01:05:52,448 --> 01:05:55,984 Jeff's always tried to challenge 1129 01:05:56,485 --> 01:05:58,420 what the stereotype of guitar playing is, 1130 01:05:58,554 --> 01:06:00,489 or the stereotype of music or just... 1131 01:06:00,622 --> 01:06:05,494 find new ways of expressing 1132 01:06:05,627 --> 01:06:08,597 his take on what's happening in music right now. 1133 01:06:08,730 --> 01:06:10,699 Whether it's collaborating with different people 1134 01:06:10,833 --> 01:06:12,601 or finding new sounds. 1135 01:06:13,235 --> 01:06:14,870 He's always got something in his mind 1136 01:06:15,003 --> 01:06:16,371 that he wants to do and change. 1137 01:06:16,538 --> 01:06:18,006 He will listen to everything. 1138 01:06:18,173 --> 01:06:20,342 I mean, he will intake anything 1139 01:06:20,476 --> 01:06:22,277 from Ornette Coleman to the Spice Girls 1140 01:06:22,411 --> 01:06:23,579 and anything in between. 1141 01:06:23,812 --> 01:06:28,484 And he's able to filter it into something usable. 1142 01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:32,187 Me and Jennifer got on quite well doing this crazy stuff. 1143 01:06:35,257 --> 01:06:37,392 I've got a big sound system in the car 1144 01:06:37,526 --> 01:06:38,827 and 'Nadia' started up. 1145 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,082 This is the most amazing thing I've ever heard. 1146 01:07:00,215 --> 01:07:02,851 And I played it again and again on the way to the studio. 1147 01:07:03,819 --> 01:07:05,387 And I said, "Listen to this. 1148 01:07:05,521 --> 01:07:07,256 I'm going to mimic that singer." 1149 01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:10,225 It was the most difficult thing I've ever done. 1150 01:07:10,359 --> 01:07:14,096 Those Indian singers, they twist and turn. 1151 01:07:15,097 --> 01:07:17,165 It's almost beyond belief what they can do, 1152 01:07:17,299 --> 01:07:20,168 leaping from note to note in the scales they sing. 1153 01:07:42,658 --> 01:07:46,094 The Indian vocals are very hard to emulate. 1154 01:07:46,228 --> 01:07:49,932 There's such subtle nuances and little tiny bends. 1155 01:07:50,666 --> 01:07:54,736 I actually made him loops of each little chunk of melody 1156 01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:57,372 and looped it maybe 10 or 15 times 1157 01:07:57,506 --> 01:07:59,408 so he could focus on just that, 1158 01:07:59,541 --> 01:08:01,610 which I don't think he ever did before, 1159 01:08:02,144 --> 01:08:04,580 to break it down so scientifically like that. 1160 01:08:04,713 --> 01:08:06,748 But of course, he's gonna make it his own. 1161 01:08:08,317 --> 01:08:11,219 It's a perfect example of expanding the instrument 1162 01:08:11,486 --> 01:08:13,655 beyond anybody's imagination. 1163 01:08:13,855 --> 01:08:16,325 That it took his hands and his brain 1164 01:08:16,458 --> 01:08:18,660 to be able to take it that far. 1165 01:08:18,927 --> 01:08:20,996 When I talk to other guitar players about him, 1166 01:08:21,129 --> 01:08:23,131 there's no question. 1167 01:08:23,265 --> 01:08:27,402 I mean, there's everybody else and then there's Jeff Beck. 1168 01:08:29,805 --> 01:08:32,240 I don't even know how he's doing it half the time. 1169 01:08:32,374 --> 01:08:35,644 He's combining the tremolo arm with bending, 1170 01:08:35,811 --> 01:08:37,279 and with volume. 1171 01:08:37,779 --> 01:08:39,247 There's so much going on 1172 01:08:39,381 --> 01:08:41,483 between his left hand and his right hand 1173 01:08:41,850 --> 01:08:43,452 and what the right hand is doing, 1174 01:08:43,585 --> 01:08:46,188 all the independence that it has. 1175 01:08:46,321 --> 01:08:48,790 It's all about making that voice. 1176 01:09:24,626 --> 01:09:26,595 Playing 5 nights at Ronnie Scotts, 1177 01:09:26,728 --> 01:09:29,297 Jeff always wanted to play at Ronnie's, you know. 1178 01:09:29,464 --> 01:09:31,800 The fact that we pulled that off was pretty amazing 1179 01:09:32,034 --> 01:09:33,602 'cause it's just a little jazz club. 1180 01:09:34,202 --> 01:09:35,537 Everybody's been there. 1181 01:09:35,671 --> 01:09:37,406 Rollins... I saw Art Blakey there. 1182 01:09:37,539 --> 01:09:39,107 And I saw Elvin Jones. 1183 01:09:39,374 --> 01:09:40,809 These people belong in there 1184 01:09:40,942 --> 01:09:43,211 and there's Jeff Beck up there, no, no, no. 1185 01:09:43,578 --> 01:09:44,713 How wrong was I? 1186 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:45,714 Amazing. 1187 01:09:45,947 --> 01:09:48,917 I can't believe this, I just... You know, you people, 1188 01:09:49,051 --> 01:09:52,387 but on top of this, I'd like to welcome to the stage 1189 01:09:52,521 --> 01:09:54,823 somebody who knows their way around a Stratocaster. 1190 01:09:55,290 --> 01:10:00,729 It was an honour to get up with him in that venue. 1191 01:10:00,862 --> 01:10:03,365 And the fact that he asked me to play. 1192 01:10:03,498 --> 01:10:07,035 I mean, tremendously touching 1193 01:10:08,370 --> 01:10:11,073 that he would want me to get up and play with him. 1194 01:10:11,473 --> 01:10:13,175 Mr Eric Clapton is here tonight. 1195 01:10:15,177 --> 01:10:16,878 I may as well fuck off home then. 1196 01:10:19,715 --> 01:10:22,818 They were trying to figure out what to play and Clapton said, 1197 01:10:22,951 --> 01:10:24,619 "Why don't we play 'You Need Love'?" 1198 01:10:39,201 --> 01:10:41,503 We had basically all of Led Zeppelin there, 1199 01:10:41,636 --> 01:10:43,572 all the surviving members. 1200 01:10:43,705 --> 01:10:46,174 And it was funny playing 'You Need Love" 1201 01:10:46,308 --> 01:10:49,144 because it was where they got 'Whole Lotta Love' from. 1202 01:10:49,311 --> 01:10:51,613 That was their influence for writing that song. 1203 01:10:51,847 --> 01:10:55,484 Jeff and I, we go back to really early teens. 1204 01:10:55,617 --> 01:10:57,819 And let me tell you, that was a long while ago. 1205 01:10:58,687 --> 01:11:02,290 But we must've been about 13-14 when we first met 1206 01:11:02,424 --> 01:11:06,161 and we stayed friends all the way through and... 1207 01:11:06,294 --> 01:11:07,529 That was a surprise, 1208 01:11:07,662 --> 01:11:10,198 the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, to have Jimmy go up there 1209 01:11:10,332 --> 01:11:11,967 and call me up to present me with the award. 1210 01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:13,201 I was really flattered. 1211 01:11:13,335 --> 01:11:15,670 And what he said really brought me to tears. 1212 01:11:16,004 --> 01:11:17,939 You'd sort of listen to Jeff along the way 1213 01:11:18,073 --> 01:11:20,675 and you'd go, "Wow, he's getting really good, Jeff." 1214 01:11:21,276 --> 01:11:23,512 And you'd hear him a few years later 1215 01:11:23,879 --> 01:11:26,248 and he'd just keep getting better and better, 1216 01:11:26,381 --> 01:11:28,617 and he still has, all the way through. 1217 01:11:29,084 --> 01:11:32,154 He leaves us as mere mortals, believe me, 1218 01:11:32,287 --> 01:11:35,357 just wondering and having so much respect for him. 1219 01:11:35,824 --> 01:11:38,360 And I tell you, I'm really honoured to be here 1220 01:11:38,527 --> 01:11:41,463 to induct Jeff into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 1221 01:11:41,596 --> 01:11:44,132 'cause he's done so much for rock 'n' roll and always will. 1222 01:11:44,266 --> 01:11:49,271 The plan was, at sound check, that we play 'Beck's Bolero'. 1223 01:11:49,437 --> 01:11:50,872 And I thought, "Yeah, OK. 1224 01:11:51,006 --> 01:11:53,208 I'll bring over the original guitar I played it on," 1225 01:11:53,341 --> 01:11:56,011 which is a Fender 12-string, electric 12-string. 1226 01:11:56,311 --> 01:11:59,281 And so I took it over there and we had a rehearsal. 1227 01:11:59,915 --> 01:12:03,351 Somehow, I think me and Tal called up Jeff. 1228 01:12:03,518 --> 01:12:06,421 And I said, "It's really a shame 1229 01:12:06,555 --> 01:12:09,424 that we're not playing a Zeppelin song." 1230 01:12:09,558 --> 01:12:11,860 I mean, we're gonna play with Jimmy Page. 1231 01:12:11,993 --> 01:12:15,530 I got a phone call just before we were due to go. 1232 01:12:17,032 --> 01:12:19,734 And he said, "I've been having a chat with the band 1233 01:12:20,101 --> 01:12:22,204 and they thought it might be a good idea 1234 01:12:22,504 --> 01:12:25,040 if we, instead of just doing 'Bolero', 1235 01:12:25,307 --> 01:12:28,076 if we did 'Immigrant Song'. 1236 01:12:28,977 --> 01:12:30,011 And I said, "Oh yeah? 1237 01:12:30,212 --> 01:12:32,113 Well, this is really gonna be interesting." 1238 01:12:32,447 --> 01:12:34,115 Because we hadn't had a rehearsal. 1239 01:12:34,482 --> 01:12:35,584 Right here, Jimmy! 1240 01:12:35,817 --> 01:12:36,585 Great! 1241 01:12:39,888 --> 01:12:41,990 The tech behind the stage apparently is freaking out. 1242 01:12:42,123 --> 01:12:43,391 The sound guys, they're like... 1243 01:12:43,525 --> 01:12:47,128 Nobody knows what's going on, but the audience went berserk. 1244 01:13:10,485 --> 01:13:12,087 He was just soloing everything. 1245 01:13:12,220 --> 01:13:13,655 He'd throw the vocal lead in, 1246 01:13:14,122 --> 01:13:17,626 just to show everybody how on top of it he was. 1247 01:13:17,826 --> 01:13:19,628 I still get goose bumps 1248 01:13:19,761 --> 01:13:21,296 when I think about that right now. 1249 01:13:26,534 --> 01:13:28,603 The band are having great fun doing this riff 1250 01:13:28,737 --> 01:13:31,406 and then we segue through into Bolero' 1251 01:13:31,539 --> 01:13:33,141 and it's absolutely amazing. 1252 01:13:40,982 --> 01:13:43,318 These people that came out of that same era 1253 01:13:43,451 --> 01:13:44,986 with the same influences 1254 01:13:45,186 --> 01:13:47,222 and look at the voices that emerged. 1255 01:13:48,223 --> 01:13:50,358 Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck. 1256 01:13:51,226 --> 01:13:53,662 And then there was Clapton and Hendrix. 1257 01:13:54,963 --> 01:13:58,600 These guys all look that same raw material and did that. 1258 01:13:59,134 --> 01:14:01,169 Just distinct different branches. 1259 01:14:01,536 --> 01:14:03,738 Every time I think of it, it's mind-numbing. 1260 01:14:03,872 --> 01:14:09,144 And Jeff really is just totally a voice like no other. 1261 01:14:09,277 --> 01:14:11,546 I love his big, vast swing. 1262 01:14:11,846 --> 01:14:15,150 He'll go from something so rocking and so aggressive, 1263 01:14:15,283 --> 01:14:17,385 down to something so tender and so sweet 1264 01:14:17,519 --> 01:14:18,787 and everything in between, 1265 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,690 and it really is a perfect mirror on all the emotions 1266 01:14:22,223 --> 01:14:24,626 of being a human being and being alive. 1267 01:14:25,226 --> 01:14:28,029 It just covers the gamut of human emotion. 1268 01:14:46,214 --> 01:14:48,416 You could recognise Gilmour and Hendrix, 1269 01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:52,187 the same way you can recognise Jeff within a phrase, a note. 1270 01:14:52,721 --> 01:14:55,423 There wouldn't be icons of guitar playing 1271 01:14:55,557 --> 01:14:57,325 if they didn't have their stamp. 1272 01:14:58,226 --> 01:15:00,595 And that's what I think every aspiring guitarist, 1273 01:15:00,729 --> 01:15:02,998 including myself, wants to achieve one day. 1274 01:15:03,131 --> 01:15:05,266 So I think they're all unique, but Jeff's is... 1275 01:15:05,934 --> 01:15:08,269 a little bit more 'out there'. 1276 01:15:17,345 --> 01:15:18,613 He was doing his set 1277 01:15:18,747 --> 01:15:21,783 and then I had to go on after 'Nessun Dorma'. 1278 01:15:22,751 --> 01:15:25,987 I was like, "You must be kidding, man. 1279 01:15:26,354 --> 01:15:28,556 This is a showstopper, I can't follow that." 1280 01:15:38,166 --> 01:15:40,235 There's not too many musicians who can do that. 1281 01:15:40,368 --> 01:15:41,936 That's a vocal tune for a reason. 1282 01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:44,539 It's really about just his sort of... 1283 01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:47,409 these two hands and a piece of wood 1284 01:15:47,542 --> 01:15:49,310 and the things he's able to do with it, 1285 01:15:49,444 --> 01:15:51,980 but he does it with a lot of emotion and soul 1286 01:15:52,113 --> 01:15:53,648 and expression. 1287 01:15:54,115 --> 01:15:57,285 All those years ago you had a band that featured 1288 01:15:57,419 --> 01:15:59,120 Rod Stewart as your vocalist. 1289 01:15:59,254 --> 01:16:02,857 It's always seemed somewhat self-defeating to me 1290 01:16:02,991 --> 01:16:08,630 to attempt to replace Rod with another male vocalist. 1291 01:16:08,997 --> 01:16:13,535 Jeff has a really cool knack for picking female singers 1292 01:16:13,668 --> 01:16:16,871 with his choices like Imelda May, Joss Stone, 1293 01:16:17,038 --> 01:16:18,006 and Beth Hart. 1294 01:16:18,139 --> 01:16:22,143 There's a perfect example of three absolutely amazing females 1295 01:16:22,477 --> 01:16:25,280 that go with his style, 1296 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,516 and the type of energy that he wants to portray 1297 01:16:28,650 --> 01:16:31,052 and the type of energy he wants his band to portray 1298 01:16:31,186 --> 01:16:32,320 at that particular time. 1299 01:16:32,454 --> 01:16:34,055 The type of fire he wants to have. 1300 01:16:45,467 --> 01:16:47,469 I had an opportunity to go write with Jeff. 1301 01:16:47,602 --> 01:16:49,370 We wrote a couple of beautiful songs together 1302 01:16:49,504 --> 01:16:50,705 and I thought that was It. 1303 01:16:50,839 --> 01:16:53,975 Then he called me and asked me if I'd be his singer. 1304 01:16:54,142 --> 01:16:55,276 That was incredible. 1305 01:16:55,410 --> 01:16:57,078 I didn't get to sing a lot of songs, 1306 01:16:57,545 --> 01:17:00,949 but I did get to sit on the side of the stage and watch him play 1307 01:17:01,149 --> 01:17:03,618 and understand why he's the most innovative guitarist 1308 01:17:03,751 --> 01:17:04,619 of all time. 1309 01:17:08,890 --> 01:17:11,659 Jeff really appreciates singers. 1310 01:17:11,793 --> 01:17:14,295 You know, he's always listening to singers 1311 01:17:14,429 --> 01:17:17,065 and the way that they articulate. 1312 01:17:17,198 --> 01:17:19,934 Beth Hart is somebody I've actually worked with before 1313 01:17:20,068 --> 01:17:23,671 and she's great and she's very soulful. 1314 01:17:23,805 --> 01:17:24,739 As a singer, 1315 01:17:25,206 --> 01:17:28,409 he knows what kind of song will be best for you. 1316 01:17:29,110 --> 01:17:32,080 And he turned me onto that song and I loved it. 1317 01:17:51,866 --> 01:17:55,069 Here he is 50 years later, 1318 01:17:55,603 --> 01:17:58,006 after his girlfriend takes him out on that stage 1319 01:17:58,139 --> 01:18:01,276 and he looks up and he says "God, I wanna play here so bad", 1320 01:18:01,409 --> 01:18:04,579 and 50 years later he plays there. 1321 01:18:04,712 --> 01:18:07,682 Sold out, gorgeous, kills it. 1322 01:18:07,815 --> 01:18:08,750 It's just wonderful. 1323 01:18:17,625 --> 01:18:21,596 One of my favourite records that he's done is 'Loud Hailer'. 1324 01:18:23,398 --> 01:18:26,601 It's incredibly modern. 1325 01:18:26,734 --> 01:18:29,737 And having a singer like that to work off of, 1326 01:18:30,171 --> 01:18:31,339 he's chosen well. 1327 01:18:45,086 --> 01:18:47,655 There's a lot of pressure opening Jeff's show. 1328 01:18:47,789 --> 01:18:49,691 This is like 50 years of Jeff Beck. 1329 01:18:49,824 --> 01:18:52,227 Rosie's stomping around the Hollywood Bow/ 1330 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,163 and all these top of the heap rich guys down at the front 1331 01:18:55,630 --> 01:18:57,065 not knowing what's going on. 1332 01:18:57,198 --> 01:18:58,733 He always decides to do 1333 01:18:58,866 --> 01:19:01,302 something which nobody'd expect him to do. 1334 01:19:01,569 --> 01:19:04,272 Working with us, this unknown band from Camden. 1335 01:19:04,405 --> 01:19:06,975 Jeff's always supported young artists, especially women. 1336 01:19:07,108 --> 01:19:08,276 He's had a history 1337 01:19:08,409 --> 01:19:10,612 of having really great female musicians with him. 1338 01:19:10,778 --> 01:19:14,716 Female singers, guitar players, bass players. 1339 01:19:14,849 --> 01:19:17,685 And not only the point of just the criteria 1340 01:19:17,819 --> 01:19:19,387 of someone being a female, 1341 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,656 but someone being female and very talented. 1342 01:19:22,190 --> 01:19:24,425 And that get along great with him and his wife. 1343 01:19:25,827 --> 01:19:27,161 What time do you call this? 1344 01:19:27,362 --> 01:19:30,098 I met Jeff at Roger Taylors birthday party. 1345 01:19:30,398 --> 01:19:32,734 It was a funny encounter because Roger said, 1346 01:19:32,867 --> 01:19:35,103 "Here, come and meet Jeff", then I turned around, 1347 01:19:35,236 --> 01:19:36,537 and realised who I was talking to. 1348 01:19:36,671 --> 01:19:38,539 I think the first thing I said to him was, 1349 01:19:38,673 --> 01:19:40,441 "Oh fuck, you're Jeff Beck." 1350 01:19:40,775 --> 01:19:42,977 I've installed the engine in your absence, 1351 01:19:43,111 --> 01:19:44,445 so that bit's now done. 1352 01:19:45,913 --> 01:19:47,982 Who do you like? She said, "Albert Collins." 1353 01:19:48,383 --> 01:19:52,320 Ding! A light went on and I thought, that's unusual, 1354 01:19:52,487 --> 01:19:55,723 to have a female young guitarist that likes Albert Collins. 1355 01:19:56,090 --> 01:19:59,160 Then she said, "If you wanna see me play in my band, 1356 01:19:59,294 --> 01:20:00,995 I'm playing in this pub." 1357 01:20:01,329 --> 01:20:03,598 So we go up there, totally blown away. 1358 01:20:03,731 --> 01:20:05,867 He's always trying something new. 1359 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,202 The most recent album, 'Loud Hailer', 1360 01:20:08,336 --> 01:20:11,205 is not like any album he's done before. 1361 01:20:11,372 --> 01:20:14,609 He's collaborating with people who are like himself, 1362 01:20:15,043 --> 01:20:18,112 venturing forward info new musical territory. 1363 01:20:18,646 --> 01:20:19,781 That'll keep you young. 1364 01:20:20,014 --> 01:20:22,150 The whole point is that, Jeff still, at his age, 1365 01:20:22,283 --> 01:20:24,652 is trying to pioneer things and do things differently, 1366 01:20:24,786 --> 01:20:27,455 not just playing the same stuff that he always plays. 1367 01:20:27,622 --> 01:20:30,625 He's pushing it a bit, getting excited about new people 1368 01:20:30,758 --> 01:20:32,193 and making new music. 1369 01:20:32,327 --> 01:20:34,262 Looking back, it feels like fairyland. 1370 01:20:34,395 --> 01:20:36,564 Like, "How the hell did that happen?" 1371 01:20:37,065 --> 01:20:39,067 Just sitting around a fireplace drinking Prosecco 1372 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,302 and writing music with a legend. 1373 01:20:41,803 --> 01:20:43,538 There was a lot of chatting about things 1374 01:20:43,671 --> 01:20:45,473 that were Interesting him in the world 1375 01:20:45,606 --> 01:20:48,176 and after that, everything came quite easily. 1376 01:20:48,309 --> 01:20:50,144 It was done under this roof. 1377 01:20:50,278 --> 01:20:53,281 It was a beautiful, very natural experience. 1378 01:21:23,811 --> 01:21:26,280 That was Carmen's chord sequence, I think, 1379 01:21:26,414 --> 01:21:28,983 then I came up with the little fills and stuff. 1380 01:21:29,117 --> 01:21:30,385 I wasn't expecting that. 1381 01:21:30,518 --> 01:21:32,086 The depth of that song. 1382 01:21:33,354 --> 01:21:36,491 I love the sentiment behind 'Scared For The Children' 1383 01:21:36,991 --> 01:21:39,327 Something that we all felt quite close to. 1384 01:21:57,245 --> 01:21:58,579 I play the least amount of notes 1385 01:21:58,713 --> 01:22:00,681 that actually mean something, I suppose. 1386 01:22:00,848 --> 01:22:03,251 If there was any game playing that'd be it really. 1387 01:22:03,384 --> 01:22:05,019 The chords are so nice. 1388 01:22:05,386 --> 01:22:07,088 Just to sit on the chord and do it. 1389 01:22:07,221 --> 01:22:08,356 I mean, that's what I do. 1390 01:22:24,238 --> 01:22:27,909 Jeff's solo in 'Scared For The Children' suave at first, 1391 01:22:28,042 --> 01:22:30,511 and then explodes in the second half. 1392 01:22:30,812 --> 01:22:34,415 That hint to Jimi Hendrix, kind of that quote. 1393 01:22:35,049 --> 01:22:37,785 The best time is on a really nice-sounding stage, 1394 01:22:38,219 --> 01:22:40,488 live, that's when I can really pour it on. 1395 01:23:24,832 --> 01:23:27,969 Jeff is probably one of the most influential guitar players 1396 01:23:28,102 --> 01:23:29,036 alive today. 1397 01:23:29,170 --> 01:23:32,173 And whenever I get to play with him it's an experience 1398 01:23:32,306 --> 01:23:35,643 that affects my drumming and my musicianship. 1399 01:23:35,943 --> 01:23:38,279 He makes me play better. 1400 01:23:38,746 --> 01:23:41,282 Every time I see him his averages are so high, 1401 01:23:41,415 --> 01:23:45,319 but every performance is one place where he is transcended 1402 01:23:45,486 --> 01:23:48,489 and I go, "Oh, OK. 1403 01:23:49,156 --> 01:23:52,093 I'd better go home and pick my guitar up again."" 1404 01:23:53,995 --> 01:23:56,464 He's just naturally interested in making music 1405 01:23:56,597 --> 01:23:58,666 and has enough faith in his music to know that 1406 01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:01,369 all that stuff about the business just doesn't matter. 1407 01:24:01,502 --> 01:24:03,337 To have the attitude that he has 1408 01:24:03,471 --> 01:24:06,207 where he's always ready for something new 1409 01:24:06,340 --> 01:24:08,643 and he doesn't know it all, even though he does, 1410 01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:12,280 I think that's magical. 1411 01:24:12,747 --> 01:24:15,850 There's a difference between playing music and being music. 1412 01:24:16,450 --> 01:24:19,554 And that's how he is set apart because he is music. 1413 01:24:20,221 --> 01:24:25,126 Jeff seems to embody the sound that he produces. 1414 01:24:25,426 --> 01:24:28,863 And I've watched him take someone else's guitar, 1415 01:24:29,096 --> 01:24:31,532 who was just playing a moment before, 1416 01:24:31,832 --> 01:24:34,802 pick it up, with no effects, no nothing, 1417 01:24:35,069 --> 01:24:36,237 and start playing 1418 01:24:36,370 --> 01:24:38,339 and the sound of that same instrument 1419 01:24:38,472 --> 01:24:39,907 is just completely different. 1420 01:24:40,041 --> 01:24:41,642 It's this unique talent, 1421 01:24:41,776 --> 01:24:45,279 this unique musical sensibility, vocabulary, 1422 01:24:46,547 --> 01:24:49,183 inspiration and willingness to take risks. 1423 01:24:49,383 --> 01:24:50,718 Jumping off cliffs. 1424 01:24:51,619 --> 01:24:53,487 And that all shows up in his music. 1425 01:24:53,988 --> 01:24:56,057 People do need to... 1426 01:24:57,892 --> 01:24:59,460 up their awareness about him. 1427 01:24:59,594 --> 01:25:01,395 I mean, where have they been? 1428 01:25:01,562 --> 01:25:04,665 There is no one else that has been as consistently good, 1429 01:25:05,533 --> 01:25:09,236 exciting, out there, looking for new things, 1430 01:25:09,370 --> 01:25:11,606 adventurous, maverick, 1431 01:25:12,506 --> 01:25:15,209 since he started in the 60s. 1432 01:25:15,343 --> 01:25:16,744 He just loves music. 1433 01:25:18,012 --> 01:25:19,146 I think... 1434 01:25:21,482 --> 01:25:23,718 If you stop wanting to play, 1435 01:25:23,851 --> 01:25:26,020 if you're not inspired by what you hear 1436 01:25:26,153 --> 01:25:29,423 then you might as well sit at home by the fire and watch TV, 1437 01:25:29,557 --> 01:25:32,259 but obviously he's still got something left to say. 1438 01:25:32,393 --> 01:25:34,795 I haven't given up hope, Jeff. 1439 01:25:34,929 --> 01:25:36,631 "The voice, The guitar." 1440 01:25:36,931 --> 01:25:38,399 The good thing about guitarists 1441 01:25:38,532 --> 01:25:41,535 is that everyone's got their own character playing. 1442 01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:44,305 That's something which we all do understand. 1443 01:25:44,472 --> 01:25:47,475 But we could all be talking for hours and hours, 1444 01:25:47,608 --> 01:25:50,111 and years and years, decades and decades, 1445 01:25:50,444 --> 01:25:51,979 but the most important thing, 1446 01:25:52,546 --> 01:25:55,616 the thing that you can't actually put into words, 1447 01:25:55,983 --> 01:25:58,185 is what you actually hear in that music. 1448 01:25:58,486 --> 01:26:00,554 And that is the key to all of this, 1449 01:26:00,721 --> 01:26:03,190 of Jeff's playing and why Jeff is so brilliant. 1450 01:26:03,424 --> 01:26:07,128 Because it's what he manages to convey with his guitar. 1451 01:26:07,461 --> 01:26:10,998 And that has to be heard to be believed. 1452 01:26:15,236 --> 01:26:18,272 I always keep a guitar in nearly every place in the house 1453 01:26:18,406 --> 01:26:20,608 to remind me that I should be doing that. 1454 01:26:21,308 --> 01:26:24,545 And the guitar is always a constant challenge. 1455 01:26:25,279 --> 01:26:26,380 Every time I pick it up, 1456 01:26:26,514 --> 01:26:28,349 I pretend I've just started playing. 1457 01:26:28,683 --> 01:26:29,984 And it seems to work. 120762

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