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This programme contains
some strong language.
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A child is a thing to be loved.
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A child is the manifestations
of both parents,
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and both parents see themselves
in the child.
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The child is part of them.
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He is their flesh and blood.
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And for good many years,
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he is a reflection
of their personality.
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So when he grows up, one day he's
going to assert his own personality,
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which might very well differ
from the personalities
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and outlooks of his parents.
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Immediately, his parents
feel very upset.
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You know, they don't see
themselves in him any more.
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And when these parents
don't see themselves in him,
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they feel they've lost him.
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But really, he's become
a human being in his own right.
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Brian's troubled relationship
with his parents
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would affect him
throughout his life.
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His parents disapproved
of his lifestyle.
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They wanted Brian to have
a proper job like his father.
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At the age of just 19,
he formed the Rolling Stones.
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They were the first of their kind
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and drove people crazy
with their long hair
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and their contempt
for convention and authority.
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Let's introduce you Stone
by Stone to the Rolling Stones.
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Hello, I'm Mick Jagger.
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Charlie Watts... Who? Charlie Watts.
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Brian Jones.
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Keith Richards. Bill Wyman.
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On the question of hair, boys,
you're pretty long in the hair.
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What's the point
of long hair these days?
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I believe it's going out in England
and it's going out in Australia.
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We still like it. You thought of
anything different, like plaiting
your hair or anything like this?
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Ha-ha. Funny man. We've got
a comedian here, I see.
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I believe some of the Eastern States
groups have even suggested
that you're effeminate.
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What have you got to say about this?
Well, darling...
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Well, we're not, you know.
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I met Brian on a train
as a schoolboy, aged 14.
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I was surprised how open
and friendly he was,
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with a soft spoken
middle class accent.
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He said he was a train spotter
and this was his favourite line -
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The Great Western.
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I remember the shock when hearing
he had died tragically
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just six years later.
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He seemed at the time
to have the world at his feet.
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CHEERING
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Thank you very much.
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# Everybody wants somebody
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# Everybody wants somebody
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# Everybody needs somebody
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# Everybody... #
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I loved Mick and Keith.
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And Mick always was in awe of Brian.
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He absolutely loved him
and I think he wanted to be Brian.
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# Everybody wants somebody
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# Everybody needs somebody... #
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Cos he had all the girls
and he had all the fan mail.
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# Someone to love
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# Someone to kiss... #
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And Mick was trying really hard...
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..to get girlfriends, I think,
at that time.
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# Someone to please
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# Sometimes a squeeze... #
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That was what I remember,
that he was very impressed
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with the way that Brian
could just draw women to him.
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# I need you, you, you... #
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To Brian and Keith,
it was like a brother relationship.
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I saw Keith so fascinated
with the way Brian played
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and Brian showing him
certain guitar things.
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# I need you
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# Yes, I do... #
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And so they were very close.
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They were all rowing together
in this musical journey.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
it's all about to happen.
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Let's hear it for the fantastic
Rolling Stones!
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CHEERING
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# I'm all right
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# I'm all right
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# I'm all right
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# I'm all right
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# I'm all right
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# Whoa, whoa, whoa
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# Come on down
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# Come on down
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# Come on down... #
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Brian then, was as popular
and famous as Mick.
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He was the heart and soul
of the early Stones.
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Yet most people today
haven't even heard of him.
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Brian answered most of the fan mail.
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"Dear Doreen,
many thanks for your letter
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"and the great interest
you've shown in the band.
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"The band is really an
amalgamation of two bands,
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"the one being an R&B band
I formed the year ago
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"and the other being a group
run by Mick and Keith
in south east London.
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"We have, I might add,
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"a habit of breaking
audience attendance records."
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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In the early days,
who got all the fan mail?
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Brian.
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The secretaries told me, "Well,
we get about 100 letters.
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"About 60 of them are for Brian,
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"about 25 are for Mick,
about ten for Charlie and Keith.
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"And there's about the same for you,
you know, and that's it, you know?
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"But Brian gets all the fan mail."
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He was brilliant,
a brilliant musician.
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He shocked everybody with
the quality of his playing.
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We all dedicated ourselves
to the band
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and Brian more so than anybody else,
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because it was his band
in the beginning.
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So it meant the world to him
more than it did to the rest of us.
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Brian did everything.
He wrote in the music papers.
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He discussed things
about the origins
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of what is actually
the blues and what is R&B.
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There's all those letters and
things. I've got copies of them.
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When Brian advertised for a band,
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he chose every single person
to come into his band.
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Let's recap on the Rolling Stones.
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How did you all get together
in the first place?
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Actually, I answered an advert
for a bass player, so...
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But the rest of them got together
individually in jazz clubs
and formed a sort of a group.
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How long ago was that?
Two years.
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And what were you doing
when you answered the advertisement?
Engineering, actually.
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And we'll move on now to Brian.
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How long have you been
with the Rolling Stones?
Are you one of the original members?
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Yes, one of the original members.
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What were you doing
before you joined?
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Well, just sort of bumming around,
waiting for something
to happen, really.
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I had quite a few jobs and I was
trying to get a band going,
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but it was unsuccessful
until I met up with Mick and Keith
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and then that was a successful band.
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Well, can you think back to your
first engagement? Where was that?
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Erm...
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Marquee, Oxford Street, London.
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And may I ask how much you got
paid for that assignment?
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20 quid, which was good,
because six months later,
we were still working for 10 quid.
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# It's all right
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# It's all right, children
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# It's all right
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# It's all right, children
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# It's all right
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# Come on around, baby
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# Come on around, baby
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# Come on around, baby
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# Come on around, baby
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# Come on around, baby... #
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Mick used to stand in front of us.
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Mick's got the maracas
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and the audience just joining in
and all that.
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# Do you feel it, baby
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# Yeah, yeah, yeah
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# Do you feel it now
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# My, my, my... #
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It just got right into your body
and it was like a tribal gathering.
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# All right, all right, all right
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# All right, all right, all right
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# All right, all right, all right
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# All right, all right, all right
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# All right, all right, all right. #
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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The blues were everything to Brian.
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He saw the Stones as promoting
unknown black blues music.
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"Dear Doreen, you raised the point
in your letter about blues material.
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"You must appreciate that blues
are not easy to put over
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"to the average club audience.
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"They prefer something more
in the twisting and jumping run.
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"Once again, thank
you for your interest
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"in rhythm and blues and ourselves.
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"It's wonderful music
and deserves more recognition.
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"Yours sincerely,
Brian Jones for Rolling Stones."
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Mick and Keith moved
into the flat that Brian had.
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And Brian and Keith slept
in a double bed in the front room
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and Mick slept in a single bed
in the middle room.
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And then there was a kitchen,
which was a disaster.
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And it was a very severe winter
that year, '62,
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and we used to give him shillings
to put in the bloody meter
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for the one little electric fire.
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Brian used to say, "What's
the point of getting out of bed
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"when it's so fucking cold?
We might as well stay in bed!"
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So they used to get the guitars
and stay in bed
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and play guitar in bed.
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Luckily, we had nothing else to do.
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And since we were down to thieving
potatoes out of supermarkets anyway
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and selling beer bottles
back to the off-licence,
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there was nothing else to do except
push on, you know, and just...
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I mean, it had to get better,
even if it didn't get fantastic.
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You know, it was difficult.
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But I mean, it was fun too,
since we were determined
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that we were going
to stick together and play.
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Despite everything,
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Brian was always tried
to keep his parents' approval.
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"Dear Mum and Dad,
many thanks for your letters
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"and a thousand apologies
for not writing back before now.
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"Being leader and spokesman
for the Stones
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"means I'm always busy and tied up.
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"If it's possible, I would
like to see you next
Monday or Tuesday.
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"But I warn you, my hair is pretty
long, although not untidy."
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"Success seems to be on its way,
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"though none of us
are too happy about 'Come On'."
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# Everything is wrong since me
and my baby parted
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# All day long I'm walking
cos I couldn't get my car started
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# Laid off from my job and... #
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"This record does not do
justice to the group."
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Brian would invite his mother
and father to the Stones concerts.
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But they never came.
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And Brian taught Keith
to play with him.
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You know, all the linking notes.
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There they go.
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See, one's going up and the other
one's coming down.
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When one's coming down,
he's going up.
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And it's so beautiful.
It's so perfect what they're doing.
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We did a song called Mona,
which is a Bo Diddley song.
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And you got... You'll have to
excuse me, that's my bloody...
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It's switched itself off now,
thank goodness.
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He learned to play along
with the tremolo.
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You know, the - doo, doo, doo, doo,
doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.
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And in time.
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And so you'll hear it on Mona here.
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# Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.
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See?
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No-one was doing that then.
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# Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. #
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He was a fucker, you know.
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He would be really horrible
sometimes.
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He had one side of him,
which I have to say was really,
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I wouldn't say evil,
but he was really cruel sometimes.
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There's photos of us
being photographed
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and Brian's over the top of me
dropping cigarette ash on my head.
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But he used to do things like that.
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And not only to me,
but to everybody.
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He always had to prove himself.
He was embarrassed about his size.
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And if he didn't get his way,
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he kind of used to get
very aggressive
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and then he'd be all apologetic and,
"Sorry, man, I didn't mean it."
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He'd stubbed that cigarette out on
the back of your hand in the car...
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..and you'd always forgive him
because he was such
a nice, sweet guy.
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Brian had immense opposition
from his father.
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His dad didn't like him
trying to be a musician.
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They just thought, get a proper job.
You know, the same old thing.
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Up to a certain point,
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Brian was a perfectly normal,
conventional boy,
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who was well behaved
and was well liked.
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Liked, I suppose, because
he was well behaved.
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He did his studies and he
was quite a model schoolboy.
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And then there came this peculiar
change in his early teens,
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at the time, I suppose,
he began to become a man,
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where he began to get
some resentment of authority.
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It was a rebellion
against parental authority
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and it was certainly a rebellion
against the school authority.
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He often used to say, why should
he do something he was told
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just because the person
who was telling him was older?
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From being an A grade student,
Brian rebelled.
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He failed in his studies
and put all his energy into music
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and picking up girls.
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He played occasionally clarinet
in the school orchestra,
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but Brian was not really interested
in anything else at the school.
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Not in athletics.
Not in any sports.
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Not in the cadet force,
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not in debating societies
or anything like that.
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He kept himself to himself quite
a bit at school, I would say.
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In the beginning of the '60s,
it was one society,
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just this mono culture, and it was
our generation who went beyond that.
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It's a level of sort of
middle class tightness,
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which you don't possibly
see so much any more.
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He had a pretty bad relationship
with his parents,
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who were very respectable,
very straight, very posh.
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But he used to say
he just couldn't stand it.
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The problem with Brian was
that he came from a very,
very bourgeois family...
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..who saw themselves as better
than the neighbours
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and better than this
and better than that.
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All the time, his fanaticism for
jazz music was coming to the fore.
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It was a great disappointment to us
and a source of considerable anxiety
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when he became so wrapped up
in his love of jazz music
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that in spite of everything
we could do or say,
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he went off and did it.
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# Wop-bop-a-loo-mop alop-bom-bom
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti
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# Tutti frutti, woo
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti
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# Awop-bop-a-loo-mop
alop-bom-bom... #
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti
283
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# Tutti frutti, woo
284
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti
285
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti
286
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# Tutti frutti, oh rutti... #
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Frustrated by his parents'
disapproval,
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Brian adopted Val's family and spent
all his time playing blues music.
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Val Corbett, yes,
I knew her very well.
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She was rather stylish
and I thought she was rather nice.
291
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Brian was quite besotted with her
292
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and she, of course,
was besotted with him.
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They were obviously
made for each other.
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The next thing we heard
was that Val was pregnant
295
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and she at first
was terribly pleased
296
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because she and Brian
were going to leave Cheltenham,
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go and live in London
and get a place together.
298
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And suddenly it dawned on her
that wasn't going to happen.
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On December the 22nd, 1960, Brian,
aged 17, was kicked out of his home.
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His father would later
refer to this as
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"my most drastic of all actions,
302
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"which I shall never forget
or cease to worry over."
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Brian, now rejected by his parents,
304
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moved in with Pat
and her sister, Betty,
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and was looked after
by their parents.
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This became a pattern
of Brian's behaviour -
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adopting other families, getting the
daughters pregnant and then leaving.
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This would happen
at least five times.
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Do you feel bitter at all?
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I'm not actually bitter.
311
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I feel quite sorry
for Brian in a way,
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because the kind of person he is,
313
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you can never be happy,
could never have true friends.
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The only friends he has probably
like him because of what he is.
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I think if he was turned out
on to the streets, nobody
would want to know Brian.
316
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He's not the kind of person
that you take to
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because he's so cynical.
318
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He's got no feelings for anybody.
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He just uses people
for his own good.
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And when he's finished,
he throws them aside.
321
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So I just feel sorry for him.
322
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Brian's own life mirrored
the rebellious spirit of the Stones
323
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more than any other member.
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Expelled from two schools.
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Thrown out of his home.
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A reckless personal life.
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The blues was Brian's salvation.
328
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# Oh, a child's coming
329
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# He's going to be,
going to be a rollin' stone
330
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# He's going to be
a rollin' stone... #
331
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# Well, I feel
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# Yes, I feel. #
333
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CHEERING
334
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Tell us something about him, Brian.
335
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When we started playing together,
336
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we started playing because
we wanted to play rhythm and blues.
337
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And Howlin' Wolf was one
of our greatest idols.
338
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And it's a great pleasure to finally
be booked on this show tonight...
Thanks to Howlin' Wolf.
339
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So I think it's about time you shut
up and we had Howlin' Wolf onstage.
340
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I agree! Let's get him on.
Howlin' Wolf!
341
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It was a huge deal for those guys
342
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because they'd just never
really been on TV.
343
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To be there are peak time
in America,
344
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that was an incredibly big deal.
345
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# How many more years
346
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# Have I got to let you
dog me around?
347
00:21:50,792 --> 00:21:53,500
# How many more years
348
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# Have I got to let you
dog me around? #
349
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It's an incredible moment
and there are still people
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who put it as one of the
greatest TV moments of the 1960s.
351
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There's a great period
in the first couple of years
352
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where he seemed to have
real insight.
353
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And I'm talking about 1961, 1962.
354
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# I'll try to show it
if you're driving me back
355
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# Your love for me
has got to be real
356
00:22:30,125 --> 00:22:32,208
# For you to know just how I feel
357
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# Love for real
and not fade away... #
358
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So you worked out both the keys
of open tunings of blues,
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which is D slash E,
which is open D or E,
360
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which is Elmore James,
and he was open G,
361
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which is Muddy Waters
and Robert Johnson.
362
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# I'm going to tell you
how it's going to be
363
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# You're going to give
your love to me
364
00:23:06,458 --> 00:23:08,583
# Love to last
more than one day... #
365
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So what did we do
for the fifth single?
366
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We wanted to do a blues
and everybody said,
367
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"Don't do it because
you'll destroy your career.
368
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"No-one's ever done a blues record
for a single in England."
369
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You know, it's the worst thing.
370
00:23:24,708 --> 00:23:28,708
Like they said to Ray Charles,
"Don't do a country album
because it will destroy you."
371
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And it was the greatest
thing he ever did.
372
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Well, when we did
Little Red Rooster...
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..they said, you know,
"You're going to kill yourself."
374
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It came out on the Friday
and on the Monday it was number one.
375
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And Brian...
376
00:23:43,333 --> 00:23:45,958
..controlled the whole band.
I'll start again.
377
00:23:49,542 --> 00:23:51,458
That's Brian with a slide.
378
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:57,667
See, he's doing it.
379
00:23:57,667 --> 00:24:00,125
# I am the little red rooster... #
380
00:24:00,125 --> 00:24:02,417
What is anybody else doing?
381
00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,708
See, he's making the song.
382
00:24:10,167 --> 00:24:13,792
# Everybody wants somebody
383
00:24:13,792 --> 00:24:18,375
# Everybody needs somebody
384
00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:20,917
# To love... #
385
00:24:20,917 --> 00:24:22,958
So we were completely unique.
386
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# Someone to kiss
387
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,458
# Oh, yeah
388
00:24:27,458 --> 00:24:29,250
# Sometimes a miss
389
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# Someone to please
390
00:24:32,417 --> 00:24:34,125
# And sometimes a squeeze
391
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# I need you, you, you
392
00:24:37,667 --> 00:24:40,458
# I need you, you, you
393
00:24:40,458 --> 00:24:42,292
# I need you... #
394
00:24:42,292 --> 00:24:44,833
Bo Diddley couldn't believe
how good we were.
395
00:24:44,833 --> 00:24:46,625
# You, you, you
396
00:24:47,583 --> 00:24:49,792
# Sometimes I feel like
397
00:24:49,792 --> 00:24:52,208
# I get a little sad inside
398
00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:54,500
# When my baby mistreats me
399
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:57,042
# I kind of get a little bit mad
400
00:24:57,042 --> 00:24:58,833
# I need you... #
401
00:24:58,833 --> 00:25:01,917
AUDIENCE: Rolling Stones!
Rolling Stones! Rolling Stones!
402
00:25:15,458 --> 00:25:18,917
# Oh, Carol, don't let him
steal your heart away
403
00:25:20,792 --> 00:25:24,333
# I'm going to learn to dance
if it takes me all night and day
404
00:25:26,875 --> 00:25:29,958
# Climb into my machine
so we can groove on out
405
00:25:32,167 --> 00:25:35,500
# I know some swinging little joint
where we can jump and shout
406
00:25:37,375 --> 00:25:39,292
# It's not too far back... #
407
00:25:39,292 --> 00:25:41,875
There was rioting
whenever the Stones played.
408
00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:44,833
It was an outpouring of emotion
against the authorities
409
00:25:44,833 --> 00:25:47,792
and the traditional ways
of doing things.
410
00:25:49,583 --> 00:25:52,583
# A little cutie takes your hat
and you can thank her ma'am... #
411
00:25:52,583 --> 00:25:55,458
The way the Stones
looked and dressed,
412
00:25:55,458 --> 00:25:58,708
their hair and sexuality,
was a whole new feeling.
413
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:05,500
Everyone fancied both Brian
and Mick, both male and female.
414
00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:08,792
They had this extraordinary
androgynous quality.
415
00:26:08,792 --> 00:26:11,833
# I'm going to learn to dance if
it takes me all night and day... #
416
00:26:19,042 --> 00:26:20,875
SCREAMING AND SHOUTING
417
00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:53,958
Brian met Linda Lawrence in 1962
and was adopted into her family.
418
00:26:53,958 --> 00:26:55,792
I only saw him.
419
00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:58,500
Yeah, and heard him.
420
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:00,500
The sound was what
I was connecting to
421
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,417
and it was the harmonica
and the slide guitar.
422
00:27:05,208 --> 00:27:08,458
The first time I'd ever
heard that kind of music
423
00:27:08,458 --> 00:27:11,125
or felt that kind of feeling,
it was just...
424
00:27:11,125 --> 00:27:12,750
Just amazing.
425
00:27:13,958 --> 00:27:18,333
Yeah, a whole feeling came over me
that I'd never felt before.
426
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,792
# My days are pretty rough
427
00:27:22,792 --> 00:27:26,500
# I want you to come back,
come back, come back... #
428
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,375
It was instant.
429
00:27:28,375 --> 00:27:30,542
Like, if you can call it love.
430
00:27:30,542 --> 00:27:34,833
At the time, I wouldn't have known
what that was, but now I do.
431
00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:39,500
There was a point that came
where he said,
432
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:43,542
"Can I come stay with you in
Windsor with your parents?"
433
00:27:43,542 --> 00:27:45,750
And I said, "Yeah."
434
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:48,000
Yeah, my parents loved him.
435
00:27:51,792 --> 00:27:54,708
# Somebody stop this pain
in my heart
436
00:27:58,042 --> 00:28:01,583
# My, my, my, my, my, my
437
00:28:01,583 --> 00:28:03,625
# Don't you know, one day
438
00:28:05,292 --> 00:28:07,458
# My days are pretty rough
439
00:28:07,458 --> 00:28:09,250
# Won't you love me?
440
00:28:09,250 --> 00:28:10,750
# Love me. #
441
00:28:20,583 --> 00:28:23,083
Most of the time
it was all about music
442
00:28:23,083 --> 00:28:25,708
and what records he's going to get.
443
00:28:25,708 --> 00:28:29,125
And how he was going to play this
and, you know...
444
00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:33,583
And I would often put
the records on over and over again
445
00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:36,375
so that he could get
the riffs and things.
446
00:28:36,375 --> 00:28:40,583
Put it back on and have a listen
and get the sound.
447
00:28:48,833 --> 00:28:51,292
Seeing them get more
and more popular
448
00:28:51,292 --> 00:28:54,333
and more and more people
coming to see them,
449
00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:56,458
it was very exciting.
450
00:28:58,167 --> 00:28:59,875
SCREAMING
451
00:29:15,083 --> 00:29:18,208
And we got very,
very much in love.
452
00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:03,417
He was loved by so many people.
I didn't mind that.
453
00:30:03,417 --> 00:30:06,083
I knew he loved me,
so I didn't care.
454
00:30:06,083 --> 00:30:08,042
And I knew we were young.
455
00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:09,917
I just knew he loved me.
456
00:30:09,917 --> 00:30:11,333
And I...
457
00:30:11,333 --> 00:30:13,500
I felt like it's OK.
458
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:15,875
You know, he'll be back.
459
00:30:53,917 --> 00:30:55,667
Brian's rivalry with Mick
460
00:30:55,667 --> 00:30:58,000
for leadership of the Stones
was growing.
461
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
Mick was the natural frontman
462
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,875
and Brian's insecurity
played into this.
463
00:31:02,875 --> 00:31:05,875
A visible friction grew up
between them.
464
00:31:05,875 --> 00:31:08,458
It began to dominate
Brian's thinking.
465
00:31:27,208 --> 00:31:30,792
Brian sent me to a modelling course
for a little while in London
466
00:31:30,792 --> 00:31:34,167
and I had taken
the hairdressing course.
467
00:31:34,167 --> 00:31:37,250
So I was really into hair
and I was saying,
468
00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:40,250
"Just grow your hair,
don't cut it", you know.
469
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:44,500
And then when it did get quite long,
I would trim it,
470
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:47,875
but not cut it, and make that shape.
471
00:31:47,875 --> 00:31:49,958
He was like a gentleman.
472
00:31:49,958 --> 00:31:52,542
He was all dressed in his white
shirt and his jacket
473
00:31:52,542 --> 00:31:54,667
and he was open doors.
474
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:59,208
It was that kind of... Very
gentlemanly and gentle spoken.
475
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,083
He had a family, obviously.
476
00:32:03,083 --> 00:32:06,042
And after a while, we drove down.
477
00:32:06,042 --> 00:32:08,625
He wanted me to meet his parents.
478
00:32:09,875 --> 00:32:13,292
And I know he didn't take many
people down to meet his parents,
479
00:32:13,292 --> 00:32:15,500
so I knew it was something special.
480
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:19,458
Did you feel that Brian cared a lot
what his parents thought?
481
00:32:19,458 --> 00:32:21,167
Oh, very much.
482
00:32:21,167 --> 00:32:23,917
That was the whole thing,
that he really did want them
483
00:32:23,917 --> 00:32:27,583
to like what he was doing
and, you know, be proud of him.
484
00:32:27,583 --> 00:32:31,000
That was the whole point,
I think, of us going there.
485
00:32:32,625 --> 00:32:35,208
They wanted him to have
a different career.
486
00:32:35,208 --> 00:32:40,792
Something more like what his father
had been doing - a good paying job.
487
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:45,208
But Brian kind of saw that
and he kind of rebelled
488
00:32:45,208 --> 00:32:47,458
and stepped out of it.
489
00:32:52,375 --> 00:32:55,125
# I warned you baby
from time to time
490
00:32:55,125 --> 00:32:57,583
# You don't listen so pay me no mind
491
00:32:57,583 --> 00:32:59,500
# About moving on
492
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:01,500
# Yeah, I'm moving on... #
493
00:33:03,250 --> 00:33:05,125
We became the love generation
494
00:33:05,125 --> 00:33:07,292
and the music was going
to be the opening.
495
00:33:08,250 --> 00:33:10,583
# Mister Engineer
with your throttle in hand
496
00:33:10,583 --> 00:33:13,083
# Take me back to that Southern land
497
00:33:13,083 --> 00:33:14,792
# It's called moving
498
00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:17,208
# Keep a rolling on
499
00:33:18,417 --> 00:33:20,250
# You're flying too high
500
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:22,292
# For my old sky
I'll move on. #
501
00:34:27,583 --> 00:34:31,042
Dawn Molloy was the mother
of Brian's fifth child.
502
00:34:31,042 --> 00:34:33,042
I was 18.
503
00:34:33,042 --> 00:34:36,125
I don't think I'd ever
been in love before.
504
00:34:36,125 --> 00:34:38,833
Every time I saw him,
my heart skipped a beat.
505
00:34:38,833 --> 00:34:40,833
And every time we saw me, he...
506
00:34:40,833 --> 00:34:43,708
It was obvious that he wanted me.
507
00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:48,458
Being a Catholic, I was very...
508
00:34:49,417 --> 00:34:50,792
..inhibited.
509
00:34:50,792 --> 00:34:53,042
He kind of got that out of me.
510
00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:56,792
Not to be ashamed of my body
and what I could do.
511
00:34:58,542 --> 00:35:01,375
He was very, very sexy.
512
00:35:03,458 --> 00:35:07,208
Yeah, the way he made love,
he just was insatiable.
513
00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:09,167
He made me feel...
514
00:35:10,292 --> 00:35:11,667
..amazing.
515
00:35:11,667 --> 00:35:13,458
He just made me feel...
516
00:35:14,417 --> 00:35:16,208
..loved and special.
517
00:35:17,375 --> 00:35:19,917
He was an amazing teacher
518
00:35:19,917 --> 00:35:22,958
of how you should make love
to a woman.
519
00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,625
My parents, they had
such a thing against...
520
00:35:29,583 --> 00:35:32,125
..long-haired pop stars.
521
00:35:33,083 --> 00:35:35,042
"Oh, this music's no good."
522
00:35:35,042 --> 00:35:38,208
You know how it is.
They didn't want any of it.
523
00:35:39,667 --> 00:35:42,333
I never dreamed
he'd come to our apartment.
524
00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:44,500
There he was, on the doorstep.
525
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:46,625
"Good evening, Mrs Malloy."
526
00:35:46,625 --> 00:35:48,500
And kissed her hand.
527
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:50,333
I mean, who does that?
528
00:35:50,333 --> 00:35:51,750
It's just...
529
00:35:53,292 --> 00:35:54,958
He had suave.
530
00:35:56,333 --> 00:35:58,417
They liked him in the end.
531
00:35:58,417 --> 00:36:02,208
Then my mum said, "Well, why
don't you go down to your bedroom?
532
00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:04,375
"Show Brian your bedroom."
533
00:36:05,917 --> 00:36:08,833
# I'm going to tell you
how it's going to be... #
534
00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:11,333
And then he turned around
and asked my parents
535
00:36:11,333 --> 00:36:13,333
if he could take me on tour.
536
00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:15,833
There's no way my dad
is going to let me go.
537
00:36:15,833 --> 00:36:17,542
But my dad said,
538
00:36:17,542 --> 00:36:21,458
"Well, you know, as long
as you're in a different room
539
00:36:21,458 --> 00:36:24,125
"and you take care of her, it's OK."
540
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:35,917
The security wasn't around,
541
00:36:35,917 --> 00:36:40,083
so you could just walk into a hotel
and the girls were everywhere.
542
00:36:40,083 --> 00:36:43,417
We went to our room
and there's this girl there
543
00:36:43,417 --> 00:36:46,708
and she's just sitting
on the bed stark naked.
544
00:36:46,708 --> 00:36:49,875
And then we went into the bathroom
and there's another one.
545
00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:53,167
And they're willing to give
everything to them.
546
00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:57,750
The police had no idea
what hit them.
547
00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:00,458
They were completely
taken by surprise.
548
00:37:00,458 --> 00:37:02,500
And it was terrifying.
549
00:37:08,875 --> 00:37:10,708
I could see all their feet,
550
00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:13,167
trampling on people
in stiletto heels,
551
00:37:13,167 --> 00:37:15,125
going for his arms and stuff.
552
00:37:15,125 --> 00:37:17,292
I thought I was going to die.
553
00:37:17,292 --> 00:37:21,375
It was like being in a tube train
and you can't move.
554
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,292
I think Mick lost some hair.
555
00:37:24,292 --> 00:37:27,500
They pulled... Literally
pulled hair out of his head.
556
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:32,125
And I started to fall back
and I fell back and Mick caught me.
557
00:37:33,125 --> 00:37:36,292
Brian was looking for me,
so he came around the corner
558
00:37:36,292 --> 00:37:38,625
and saw me in the arms of Mick.
559
00:37:38,625 --> 00:37:40,125
And then...
560
00:37:41,083 --> 00:37:42,708
..Brian lost it.
561
00:37:42,708 --> 00:37:46,542
"Keep your hands off my fucking
girl! You're not having
all my girlfriends!"
562
00:37:46,542 --> 00:37:48,250
And all that kind of stuff.
563
00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:51,458
Mick said, "Hey, I'm just holding
her, you know. She just fell.
564
00:37:51,458 --> 00:37:53,333
"Don't be a dick", you know?
565
00:37:53,333 --> 00:37:56,417
And then Bill said,
"Yeah, sometimes you get like that.
566
00:37:56,417 --> 00:37:58,833
"You just have to leave him,
he'll be fine."
567
00:38:00,458 --> 00:38:02,625
Everybody went through their...
568
00:38:03,583 --> 00:38:05,500
..star trip, you know.
569
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:11,250
And I think Brian was
the only one that it changed
570
00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:15,500
in a really deep way
and probably not for the better.
571
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:18,417
It was very difficult for him,
you know,
572
00:38:18,417 --> 00:38:22,458
and not made any easier probably
by the rest of us, you know,
573
00:38:22,458 --> 00:38:26,167
because nobody had the time
to look after somebody else.
574
00:38:26,167 --> 00:38:31,875
If one of them isn't quite strong
enough to deal with that situation
575
00:38:31,875 --> 00:38:34,708
there's very little you can do
to help him.
576
00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:40,750
They were all a little wary,
I think, of Brian
577
00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:42,833
because he could be kind of moody.
578
00:38:42,833 --> 00:38:45,125
But I think they put that on him
579
00:38:45,125 --> 00:38:47,542
because he was supposed
to be the leader
580
00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:49,875
and he was no longer the leader.
581
00:38:58,167 --> 00:39:02,250
Mick ruled the roost as far
as what they were going to play
582
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:06,250
and the fact that he could
write music and Brian couldn't.
583
00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:09,542
I think there may have been
a little jealousy there.
584
00:39:09,542 --> 00:39:12,833
The fact that Mick and Keith
were so close.
585
00:39:13,792 --> 00:39:15,750
# Yeah, yeah, yeah
586
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:17,542
# I feel all right
587
00:39:17,542 --> 00:39:19,458
# I feel all right, children... #
588
00:39:21,417 --> 00:39:24,500
I think they were a little bit lost
until Andrew came along.
589
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,708
And then Andrew kind of
laid down the law
590
00:39:26,708 --> 00:39:29,667
and said what he wanted to do,
which was all very well.
591
00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:33,417
And I thought that was a good idea
to have a manager,
592
00:39:33,417 --> 00:39:35,542
but I don't think Brian realised
593
00:39:35,542 --> 00:39:38,750
that he would be handing
everything over to him.
594
00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:49,917
They had two different ideas
of what they wanted to do.
595
00:39:49,917 --> 00:39:55,000
Brian loved Howlin' Wolf and he
wanted to stay as a blues group.
596
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,375
Andrew wanted them to be pop.
597
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,083
MUSIC: Little Red Rooster
by The Rolling Stones
598
00:40:21,292 --> 00:40:25,792
And I think Andrew and Brian
just didn't hit it off.
599
00:40:25,792 --> 00:40:29,000
And I think they just got
into loggerheads.
600
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,500
Pop sold.
601
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:33,958
And obviously Andrew wanted
to make money.
602
00:40:33,958 --> 00:40:35,500
Thank you.
603
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:37,167
"Dear Melinda,
604
00:40:37,167 --> 00:40:39,083
"Mick is the head of the group.
605
00:40:39,083 --> 00:40:41,625
"At one time I was, but Mick
took over.
606
00:40:41,625 --> 00:40:44,292
"Don't ask me why. We just thought
it would be better,
607
00:40:44,292 --> 00:40:45,958
"as he is a good leader.
608
00:40:45,958 --> 00:40:49,208
"Mick's birthday was on
the 26th of July.
609
00:40:49,208 --> 00:40:51,292
"I must rush, dear, honestly.
610
00:40:51,292 --> 00:40:53,458
"Brian Jones."
611
00:40:53,458 --> 00:40:57,500
I guess he was a little jealous
of Mick because he was...
612
00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:00,167
He had all the fame sort of thing.
613
00:41:00,167 --> 00:41:04,042
But I don't think Brian realised
that he had just as much too.
614
00:41:04,042 --> 00:41:06,125
FANS SCREAM
615
00:41:11,875 --> 00:41:13,708
# Oh, Carol
616
00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:16,042
# Don't let him steal
your heart away
617
00:41:17,792 --> 00:41:19,375
# I'm gonna learn to dance
618
00:41:19,375 --> 00:41:22,042
# If it takes me all night and day
619
00:41:24,042 --> 00:41:27,292
# Climb into my machine
so we can groove on out... #
620
00:41:30,458 --> 00:41:35,333
MUSIC DROWNED BY SCREAMS
621
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:43,375
I think he would've liked
to have been like Mick,
622
00:41:43,375 --> 00:41:44,875
but then no-one's like Mick.
623
00:41:44,875 --> 00:41:48,500
He has this charisma about him,
he has amazing energy.
624
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:51,500
# A little cutie takes your hat and
you can thank her, ma'am... #
625
00:41:53,917 --> 00:41:57,042
SCREAMING
626
00:42:03,958 --> 00:42:08,167
I understand, Brian, because I think
he was a lost person.
627
00:42:11,167 --> 00:42:14,792
The success of the Stones
was unbelievable.
628
00:42:14,792 --> 00:42:18,375
But at a time when Brian could
have celebrated the success
629
00:42:18,375 --> 00:42:21,625
of the band he had founded,
he was locked in conflict
630
00:42:21,625 --> 00:42:23,708
with problems of his own creation.
631
00:42:26,208 --> 00:42:29,000
The reason I found out about Linda
was because I was told
632
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,500
to go to Torquay.
633
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:33,000
And then Stu told me, no,
I couldn't go in and see him
634
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
because Linda was there
with the baby.
635
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,417
I'm like, "What... Whose baby?",
you know?
636
00:42:37,417 --> 00:42:39,000
He said, "Well, Brian's."
637
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,500
# Well, you know my lovin'
not fade away... #
638
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:44,625
Fame is a very strange thing.
639
00:42:44,625 --> 00:42:47,125
And he wanted that as well.
640
00:42:47,125 --> 00:42:48,833
And so that was the choice
641
00:42:48,833 --> 00:42:51,167
he had to make.
642
00:42:51,167 --> 00:42:52,875
And...
643
00:42:52,875 --> 00:42:54,042
And he did.
644
00:42:54,042 --> 00:42:56,042
FANS SCREAM, GUITAR CHORDS
645
00:42:58,667 --> 00:43:01,042
I was at all the gigs.
646
00:43:01,042 --> 00:43:03,000
The other girlfriends
weren't allowed to come,
647
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,042
but I would always be at the gig.
648
00:43:08,625 --> 00:43:12,458
The last one that I was at
before I had Julian
649
00:43:12,458 --> 00:43:14,333
was the Bo Diddley concert.
650
00:43:14,333 --> 00:43:18,375
# Hey, Bo Diddley
Hey, Bo Diddley
651
00:43:18,375 --> 00:43:22,125
# Hey, Bo Diddley
Hey, Bo Diddley
652
00:43:22,125 --> 00:43:26,167
# Hey, Bo Diddley
Hey, Bo Diddley
653
00:43:26,167 --> 00:43:30,042
# Hey, Bo Diddley
Hey, Bo Diddley
654
00:43:30,042 --> 00:43:34,042
# I got a girl lived on a hill
Hey, Bo Diddley... #
655
00:43:34,042 --> 00:43:36,833
I bonded so well with Bo Diddley
656
00:43:36,833 --> 00:43:38,292
and it was all fantastic.
657
00:43:38,292 --> 00:43:41,042
They thought that Brian and I
were getting married.
658
00:43:41,042 --> 00:43:43,958
I thought we were getting married.
659
00:43:43,958 --> 00:43:47,042
So it was a bit of a shock when
Andrew Oldham came in and said,
660
00:43:47,042 --> 00:43:51,458
"You can't have girlfriends and
wives and, you know, it's..."
661
00:43:51,458 --> 00:43:53,542
Because I knew that he loved me
662
00:43:53,542 --> 00:43:56,417
and it was really hard
to understand.
663
00:43:56,417 --> 00:44:00,667
And I kept saying to myself,
"Well, I have to let go
664
00:44:00,667 --> 00:44:02,792
"and he'll be back."
665
00:44:06,542 --> 00:44:08,208
And my dad, when he left, said,
666
00:44:08,208 --> 00:44:11,042
"And there's no-one to
look after him now."
667
00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:13,792
Brian tormented himself because
668
00:44:13,792 --> 00:44:15,250
he couldn't write songs
669
00:44:15,250 --> 00:44:16,875
like Mick and Keith,
670
00:44:16,875 --> 00:44:20,417
whose compositions had moved
the band on to a whole new level.
671
00:44:20,417 --> 00:44:21,625
Say hi to Brian.
672
00:44:21,625 --> 00:44:24,500
Brian is one of the writers
of most of the things, right?
673
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:27,375
No, I'm not, actually...
Well, I'm not really a writer.
674
00:44:27,375 --> 00:44:29,333
Ah, we do write a lot of
stuff together -
675
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,292
it comes out under the
Nanker Phelge pseudonym -
676
00:44:31,292 --> 00:44:33,875
but Mick and Keith write more...many
of our... Thank you, Bill.
677
00:44:33,875 --> 00:44:35,792
They're a little more industrious
than we are.
678
00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:38,708
In writing the songs that you write,
do you sometimes think that you have
679
00:44:38,708 --> 00:44:40,583
a special inspiration for
the way that you...
680
00:44:40,583 --> 00:44:43,375
Well, you'd better ask - about
writing songs - better address those
681
00:44:43,375 --> 00:44:46,042
questions to Mick and Keith because
they'll tell me more about it.
682
00:44:46,042 --> 00:44:48,833
But the ones we've written together
are just things we've worked out
683
00:44:48,833 --> 00:44:51,167
together in the studio,
with somebody, you know, anyone
684
00:44:51,167 --> 00:44:53,750
that's had an idea. If you had to do
it all over again, do you think
685
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:56,250
you'd go the same route again?
As far as, you know, now that you
686
00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:58,833
realise the demands that are put
on you as a tremendous success?
687
00:44:58,833 --> 00:45:00,667
I'd do it 100 times over,
if I could. I love it.
688
00:45:00,667 --> 00:45:01,708
Good. Thank you so much.
689
00:45:01,708 --> 00:45:04,500
Let me swing over here and talk
to Keith and to Mick.
690
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:07,250
These are the two that are supposed
to be all the writing talent.
691
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:09,792
You fellows get together and do
most of the writing, right?
692
00:45:09,792 --> 00:45:12,167
Yeah, that's right. A lot of it.
You know, some of it.
693
00:45:12,167 --> 00:45:15,167
Do you have a particular inspiration
for some of your songs that seem
694
00:45:15,167 --> 00:45:16,500
to springboard them out?
695
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:18,792
Well, I don't know. Ask Keith.
696
00:45:18,792 --> 00:45:20,750
I don't really think so, no.
697
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:23,500
It just happens, you know?
It just happens.
698
00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:31,542
Mick and Keith are wonderful
songwriters.
699
00:45:31,542 --> 00:45:32,917
I mean, they're just great.
700
00:45:32,917 --> 00:45:34,292
Extraordinary.
701
00:45:34,292 --> 00:45:37,083
I mean, I couldn't admire them more.
702
00:45:37,083 --> 00:45:40,000
They tended to write more about sex.
703
00:45:41,125 --> 00:45:44,125
So from '64, '84...
704
00:45:44,125 --> 00:45:48,292
Like, for 20 years they were
just turning them out.
705
00:45:48,292 --> 00:45:51,333
I mean, they're classic
rock and roll songs.
706
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:56,000
I'd rate it as extraordinary.
707
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,083
You see, the trouble was by 1963,
708
00:45:59,083 --> 00:46:03,167
when Mick and Keith were writing
the songs and all that,
709
00:46:03,167 --> 00:46:06,208
Andrew was trying to promote Keith
710
00:46:06,208 --> 00:46:09,750
and kind of dismiss Brian,
get Brian out of the way.
711
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:14,750
And so what he did was
he stopped me, Charlie and Brian
712
00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:18,542
from doing any interviews with any
of the newspapers, any interviews
713
00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:21,667
at all, and gave them all
to Mick and Keith.
714
00:46:21,667 --> 00:46:26,000
And I think when we talked on
the phone ages ago, you mentioned
715
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,000
that he did something
with Jimi Hendrix.
716
00:46:30,083 --> 00:46:31,542
Erm... Yes.
717
00:46:31,542 --> 00:46:33,917
Some playing. Yeah.
718
00:46:35,375 --> 00:46:36,833
No-one knows that.
719
00:46:42,792 --> 00:46:44,208
What do I say?
720
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,958
GUITAR INSTRUMENTAL
721
00:47:17,625 --> 00:47:20,833
And I got Brian trying to write
a song with that guy,
722
00:47:20,833 --> 00:47:24,667
Michael Aldred, of Ready Steady Go!
723
00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:29,500
But they're unique things that
I just happened to get, and...
724
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:32,833
..they shouldn't be...
Was the song good?
725
00:47:32,833 --> 00:47:36,625
Yeah, they were putting a song
together. It was OK, yeah.
726
00:47:36,625 --> 00:47:39,625
But he never had the courage
to record it.
727
00:47:40,667 --> 00:47:42,417
LAUGHTER
728
00:47:42,417 --> 00:47:45,167
BRIAN: Oh, fucking hell,
turn it off!
729
00:47:47,333 --> 00:47:49,792
SONG PLAYS ON TAPE
730
00:48:08,958 --> 00:48:11,917
HE STOPS PLAYING GUITAR
731
00:48:08,958 --> 00:48:11,917
BRIAN: No. It's difficult...
732
00:48:11,917 --> 00:48:14,042
Oh, let's get...
733
00:48:14,042 --> 00:48:15,750
Bleurgh!
734
00:48:17,625 --> 00:48:21,250
He never played me a song
he'd written, so it was quite hard
735
00:48:21,250 --> 00:48:25,708
to know really if he wanted to do
songs with us that he'd written.
736
00:48:25,708 --> 00:48:29,375
I think he did, but he was very shy
and all that, I think he found it
737
00:48:29,375 --> 00:48:32,667
rather hard to lay it down to us,
you know, that "This was a song and
738
00:48:32,667 --> 00:48:34,125
"it went like this."
739
00:48:34,125 --> 00:48:37,792
And we probably sort of didn't even
think - because he didn't do it,
740
00:48:37,792 --> 00:48:41,458
we didn't try and bring it out
of him, probably,
741
00:48:41,458 --> 00:48:42,875
which was...
742
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,750
..I suppose a bit insensitive of us.
743
00:48:50,458 --> 00:48:54,458
MUSIC: Ne Cherche Pas
by Zouzou
744
00:49:33,292 --> 00:49:36,042
BLUES GUITAR
745
00:50:27,125 --> 00:50:30,042
MUSIC: You Know My Name
by The Beatles
746
00:51:24,208 --> 00:51:27,500
Each member of the band
had a had a court.
747
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:31,458
And the way the hierarchy worked
was the Stones would always
748
00:51:31,458 --> 00:51:34,333
have to go to the Beatles' places.
749
00:51:34,333 --> 00:51:37,042
So the Beatles would
never go to their house.
750
00:51:37,042 --> 00:51:40,000
You know, that was
the order of things,
751
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,292
a very strict class system at work.
HE LAUGHS
752
00:53:59,667 --> 00:54:02,500
FANS SCREAM
753
00:54:42,917 --> 00:54:45,000
I think he liked drinking and
I think he liked drugs
754
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,542
but they weren't very good for him.
755
00:54:47,542 --> 00:54:50,500
I don't think they're good for
anyone, but he didn't...
756
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,208
He wasn't strong enough,
mentally or physically,
757
00:54:53,208 --> 00:54:54,375
to take any of it.
758
00:54:54,375 --> 00:54:55,958
And of course he did everything...
759
00:54:55,958 --> 00:54:58,833
Brian was one of those people
that did everything to excess.
760
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:58,250
And remember, no matter
what anyone says...
761
00:55:58,250 --> 00:56:00,458
..rock on.
762
00:56:00,458 --> 00:56:06,167
# I can't get no satisfaction
763
00:56:06,167 --> 00:56:10,958
# I can't get no satisfaction... #
764
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:45,625
The trouble with Brian was he wasn't
very well a lot of the time.
765
00:56:45,625 --> 00:56:47,625
So he was often ill.
766
00:56:50,708 --> 00:56:53,000
We'd be on tour and Brian would
get sick, and he'd be in
767
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,542
hospital for five days
and we had to play without him.
768
00:56:56,542 --> 00:56:59,375
Just the four of us, you know.
769
00:56:59,375 --> 00:57:01,083
Bass, drum, guitar.
770
00:57:01,083 --> 00:57:04,542
And you're playing all them songs
that need more than one guitar,
771
00:57:04,542 --> 00:57:06,167
and you've only got one guitar.
772
00:57:08,375 --> 00:57:10,833
So I had to double-up on bass,
the bass playing,
773
00:57:10,833 --> 00:57:12,167
and help Keith out, you know,
774
00:57:12,167 --> 00:57:14,958
and Keith had to play a bit more
than he would normally play,
775
00:57:14,958 --> 00:57:17,417
playing partly rhythm, partly lead.
776
00:57:17,417 --> 00:57:19,250
It was tough, you know.
777
00:57:20,667 --> 00:57:25,250
So he was very unreliable at times
in the later period of his life.
778
00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:27,833
You know, the last...maybe
three years.
779
00:57:29,208 --> 00:57:32,500
Brian used to get very paranoid
about being made fun of.
780
00:57:32,500 --> 00:57:36,458
You know, he always said, "They're
talking about me and they're..."
781
00:57:36,458 --> 00:57:39,125
You know, when we were waiting
in a...
782
00:57:39,125 --> 00:57:42,167
When we were staying over in
a hotel or something.
783
00:57:50,375 --> 00:57:54,292
The classic example that I had of
that was at the hotel in New York
784
00:57:54,292 --> 00:57:56,333
when Dylan was coming to visit him.
785
00:57:56,333 --> 00:57:58,208
You know, he was very friendly
with Dylan.
786
00:57:58,208 --> 00:58:00,708
So Mick and Keith - Brian's
room was next to mine,
787
00:58:00,708 --> 00:58:02,250
so Mick and Keith came into my room.
788
00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:04,750
They said, "Oh...",
and they were very devilish.
789
00:58:04,750 --> 00:58:07,667
And Keith goes over and grabs
a water glass that I had,
790
00:58:07,667 --> 00:58:11,042
and he puts it against the wall so
he could listen in to Brian's room.
791
00:58:11,042 --> 00:58:14,542
And Mick goes over to the house
telephone, my phone in the room,
792
00:58:14,542 --> 00:58:16,458
and calls Brian's room.
793
00:58:16,458 --> 00:58:18,917
And then immediately he says,
"Hello, Mr Jones.
794
00:58:18,917 --> 00:58:21,250
"You have Mr Zimmerman
for Mr Jones."
795
00:58:21,250 --> 00:58:24,417
And he was imitating putting
Dylan on the phone.
796
00:58:24,417 --> 00:58:26,917
And then when he was on the phone,
he says, "Oh, Brian, I think
797
00:58:26,917 --> 00:58:29,250
"you're the best guy in the group,"
that kind of...
798
00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:31,625
And Brian's like, "Shut up,
you guys! I know you're..."
799
00:58:31,625 --> 00:58:34,042
And that was the kind of stuff
that was going on.
800
00:58:34,042 --> 00:58:37,542
MUSIC: There But For Fortune
by Marianne Faithful
801
00:58:37,542 --> 00:58:41,083
# Show me the train.... #
802
00:58:41,083 --> 00:58:43,000
Already there had been
shit going on.
803
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,958
You know, Brian was in
very bad shape.
804
00:58:45,958 --> 00:58:48,000
He couldn't get into the States.
805
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,625
And they didn't know what to do,
and this and that and the other,
806
00:58:50,625 --> 00:58:53,250
you know, of just scrambling
all the way along.
807
00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:55,625
It wasn't as bad as it was
going to get later.
808
00:58:55,625 --> 00:58:59,208
Well, I read an interesting
thing Keith said about this,
809
00:58:59,208 --> 00:59:03,000
that they started making fun of
Brian so as not to get mad at him.
810
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,833
Ah... Because it was a way...
811
00:59:04,833 --> 00:59:07,333
But I mean, of course,
for somebody who's paranoid,
812
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:09,792
this is just about the worst
thing you can do.
813
00:59:09,792 --> 00:59:13,500
But I mean that was
Mick and Keith's, apparently,
814
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:15,042
attitude to this thing, you know?
815
00:59:15,042 --> 00:59:17,417
Well, because, you know, I mean
if anybody had really let
816
00:59:17,417 --> 00:59:21,000
their feelings go, they would've
killed him. Mm-hm.
817
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,042
And he would have killed them too.
Mm-hm.
818
00:59:23,042 --> 00:59:24,958
I mean, it was that bad.
819
00:59:27,250 --> 00:59:30,500
I think Marianne sympathised
with Brian.
820
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:35,333
And Marianne of course was not in
much better shape because of drugs.
821
00:59:35,333 --> 00:59:39,958
She knew him very well and had,
you know, had an affair with him.
822
00:59:39,958 --> 00:59:44,583
Marianne felt that she had become
a real drag on Mick.
823
00:59:45,875 --> 00:59:51,750
And there's a horrible conversation
where she overhears Ahmet Ertegun
824
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:56,792
saying to Mick, "You've got
to get rid of Marianne,
825
00:59:56,792 --> 01:00:00,083
"you know, if the band is
going to function.
826
01:00:00,083 --> 01:00:04,042
"It's having a really
negative effect."
827
01:00:04,042 --> 01:00:08,375
And so in that sense I think she
absolutely identified with Brian.
828
01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:16,792
Anita Pallenberg was a massive
influence on Brian.
829
01:00:16,792 --> 01:00:21,958
She was credited with transforming
both Brian and the Stones.
830
01:01:13,917 --> 01:01:18,083
She was an incredibly interesting
person, who'd done a lot,
831
01:01:18,083 --> 01:01:21,542
and was on the make,
in the way that he was.
832
01:01:21,542 --> 01:01:26,833
And she craved new experiences,
you know, in the way that he was.
833
01:01:26,833 --> 01:01:29,667
But I think he was thinking
of leaving the band.
834
01:01:29,667 --> 01:01:32,292
I think he probably could have
and probably should have left
835
01:01:32,292 --> 01:01:35,458
the band for his own, you know,
health and sanity.
836
01:01:35,458 --> 01:01:38,500
But I think, by teaming up with
Anita, he knew they'd be
837
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:40,500
a real phenomenon, which they were.
838
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:44,458
And that really launched his
kind of last great...
839
01:01:44,458 --> 01:01:45,833
Last great ride.
840
01:01:46,833 --> 01:01:48,333
Oui, oui, je le comprends.
841
01:01:51,167 --> 01:01:55,500
There was such sort of...erotic
power to their pairing
842
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:57,542
and such glamour.
843
01:01:57,542 --> 01:01:59,958
And also, you know,
he wants to be glamorous.
844
01:01:59,958 --> 01:02:03,375
He wanted to be seen as
a main player in the Stones,
845
01:02:03,375 --> 01:02:05,583
and she'd helped that happen.
846
01:02:05,583 --> 01:02:09,000
She and Brian were, you know,
like a little unit,
847
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,958
whispering, talking to each other,
giggling, speaking in sort of
848
01:02:13,958 --> 01:02:18,833
a code that, you know, intimate
couples can have sometimes.
849
01:02:18,833 --> 01:02:22,958
And I think they were doing a lot
of acid and just hanging out.
850
01:02:22,958 --> 01:02:27,500
She was staggeringly beautiful,
851
01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:33,042
had extraordinary physical
and sexual confidence.
852
01:02:33,042 --> 01:02:37,875
You know, when she walked in a room,
you know, guys' eyes popped out
853
01:02:37,875 --> 01:02:40,542
and tongues rolled out,
like in a cartoon.
854
01:03:09,625 --> 01:03:12,125
The Rolling Stones, they were,
as Marianne would put it,
855
01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:14,083
were a bunch of yobs.
856
01:03:14,083 --> 01:03:15,792
They were very talented,
857
01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:18,958
but they weren't educated
or sophisticated.
858
01:03:21,375 --> 01:03:26,208
Marianne and Anita connected them
with all the European intellectuals
859
01:03:26,208 --> 01:03:28,083
and film-makers.
860
01:03:28,083 --> 01:03:31,500
We were the right women for that
time to enable whatever
861
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:33,375
had to happen to happen.
862
01:03:33,375 --> 01:03:36,500
And probably the same is true
of Brian and Anita
863
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:39,167
and Keith and Anita.
864
01:03:39,167 --> 01:03:42,625
They seemed to be
a proto-aristocracy.
865
01:03:42,625 --> 01:03:44,875
Mick at one point said,
866
01:03:44,875 --> 01:03:48,042
"Well, the only thing left is
me and the Queen."
867
01:03:49,375 --> 01:03:51,125
SITAR MUSIC
868
01:03:52,667 --> 01:03:55,708
Brian and Anita would spend
time at the vast Guinness estate
869
01:03:55,708 --> 01:03:57,000
in Ireland.
870
01:04:02,042 --> 01:04:04,833
This is Mick go-karting
at Leslie Castle,
871
01:04:04,833 --> 01:04:08,042
a massive Irish estate that has been
in the Leslie family
872
01:04:08,042 --> 01:04:10,333
for 1,000 years.
873
01:04:10,333 --> 01:04:12,792
A whole new world opened up to them.
874
01:04:15,917 --> 01:04:19,083
I think it was the great changing
of the old order, wasn't it?
875
01:04:21,042 --> 01:04:24,000
I loved the sort of mixture,
876
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,500
the juxtaposition then
of the Stones and the Beatles
877
01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:30,000
and the royals and the thing,
you know?
878
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,083
It suddenly was all...
879
01:04:31,083 --> 01:04:35,208
Everybody and anybody were part
of the same thing.
880
01:04:35,208 --> 01:04:36,375
It was excellent.
881
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,167
It was my sister Victoria's
birthday, and that was a sort of
882
01:04:42,167 --> 01:04:47,875
wonderful melting pot with
the Kennedys and Princess Margaret
883
01:04:47,875 --> 01:04:52,333
and the Beatles and the Stones
and then all my relations.
884
01:04:53,625 --> 01:04:55,708
Brian definitely came.
885
01:04:55,708 --> 01:04:58,208
Brian was the most sort of
sociable at that time.
886
01:04:58,208 --> 01:05:00,833
He was much the most sort of
gregarious.
887
01:05:00,833 --> 01:05:05,542
So it was it was the informality,
I think, of it that was part of
888
01:05:05,542 --> 01:05:07,667
the whole thing of the '60s.
889
01:05:07,667 --> 01:05:13,583
Never mind who was there, whether
it was rock stars or royalty
890
01:05:13,583 --> 01:05:18,417
or scrubbers from the East End.
891
01:05:18,417 --> 01:05:20,375
It really didn't make
any difference.
892
01:05:24,042 --> 01:05:27,125
Brian's best friend at the time
was Tara Browne.
893
01:05:27,125 --> 01:05:29,958
He was the Guinness heir
and owner of Dandie Fashions
894
01:05:29,958 --> 01:05:31,500
on the King's Road.
895
01:05:34,667 --> 01:05:38,167
The so-called Swinging London
was actually a very small group
896
01:05:38,167 --> 01:05:41,625
of people, and Brian and Tara
were right at the centre.
897
01:05:45,375 --> 01:05:49,250
Tara was immortalised in
the Beatles song A Day in the Life
898
01:05:49,250 --> 01:05:51,542
when he had a tragic car accident.
899
01:05:51,542 --> 01:05:56,042
# He blew his mind out in a car
900
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:02,250
# He didn't notice that the lights
had changed
901
01:06:02,250 --> 01:06:05,917
# A crowd of people stood
and stared... #
902
01:06:09,208 --> 01:06:12,000
Brian was devastated
by Tara's death,
903
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,208
the first of that intimate circle.
904
01:06:16,875 --> 01:06:19,833
Brian would later date
his girlfriend, Suki Poitier,
905
01:06:19,833 --> 01:06:24,292
who was with Tara in the accident
but miraculously survived.
906
01:06:25,875 --> 01:06:28,500
And we all wore
the Dandie Fashions look,
907
01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:31,125
which was so much
the spirit of the time.
908
01:06:38,708 --> 01:06:42,625
Anita was pushing him to dress
more outrageously.
909
01:06:42,625 --> 01:06:45,750
He was the archetypal dandy,
910
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:48,750
more than anyone, you know,
in '66, '67.
911
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,500
At that point you can see
the power dynamics shift
912
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:04,667
within the band, where
Keith is coming back to Brian again.
913
01:07:06,958 --> 01:07:09,042
BRIAN PLAYS THE PIANO
914
01:07:12,042 --> 01:07:15,750
So for a period, yeah, he was back
with Keith, because he was cool
915
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:20,000
and happening, and obviously
at that time they did Ruby Tuesday.
916
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:25,833
He was doing all that stuff
without asking anyone.
917
01:07:25,833 --> 01:07:30,083
He'd pick up a flute or just
anything that was handy
918
01:07:30,083 --> 01:07:35,000
and just create something out of it
which wasn't there originally.
919
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,500
And it embellished the song so much
that it became the catch.
920
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:42,500
MUSIC: Ruby Tuesday
by The Rolling Stones
921
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:46,458
HE HUMS ALONG WITH FLUTE PART
# Or in the darkest night
922
01:07:46,458 --> 01:07:48,417
# No-one knows... #
923
01:07:48,417 --> 01:07:51,042
BILL: # Do, doo! #
Can you hear him?
924
01:07:51,042 --> 01:07:53,958
# She comes and goes... #
925
01:07:53,958 --> 01:07:56,708
# Do, do, do... #
926
01:07:56,708 --> 01:07:58,792
# Goodbye, Ruby... #
927
01:07:58,792 --> 01:08:00,333
He just finds a flute,
928
01:08:00,333 --> 01:08:02,500
and he finds a little thing
he can play on it.
929
01:08:04,917 --> 01:08:08,958
Brian's self-loathing came out
in the way he treated other people.
930
01:08:08,958 --> 01:08:13,333
He and Anita particularly were known
for spiking people's drinks.
931
01:08:13,333 --> 01:08:17,292
Anita would encourage him for that
kind of outrageous behaviour.
932
01:08:17,292 --> 01:08:19,583
They would just mock people
who hadn't...
933
01:08:19,583 --> 01:08:22,208
Who weren't turned on in
the same way that they were.
934
01:08:22,208 --> 01:08:25,333
So that was a thing - "We're
the hip kids - we can make fun
935
01:08:25,333 --> 01:08:27,125
"of other people."
936
01:08:27,125 --> 01:08:30,417
For instance, Linda Lawrence came.
937
01:08:30,417 --> 01:08:33,875
I think she was short of money
for young Julian.
938
01:08:35,167 --> 01:08:38,958
I think they were up in the flat,
Brian and Anita,
939
01:08:38,958 --> 01:08:42,708
and they just laughed at her and
wouldn't let her come in.
940
01:09:27,833 --> 01:09:32,125
So whilst he could still make
things happen in the studio,
941
01:09:32,125 --> 01:09:36,333
he still was holding some power even
whilst he was this kind of liability
942
01:09:36,333 --> 01:09:38,042
at the same time.
943
01:09:38,042 --> 01:09:42,417
You know, he was pretty dominant
in terms of the sounds.
944
01:09:42,417 --> 01:09:46,708
You know, they needed to get
a bit more exotic.
945
01:09:46,708 --> 01:09:48,958
Paint It Black,
he's embellished it again.
946
01:09:48,958 --> 01:09:50,875
MUSIC: Paint It Black
by The Rolling Stones
947
01:09:50,875 --> 01:09:51,958
Bass pedals.
948
01:09:51,958 --> 01:09:54,667
There's Brian.
949
01:09:51,958 --> 01:09:54,667
HE IMITATES SITAR
950
01:09:56,292 --> 01:10:01,917
# I see a line of cars and
they're all painted black... #
951
01:10:01,917 --> 01:10:06,250
HE HUMS THE TUNE
952
01:10:06,250 --> 01:10:09,792
Your head goes into, like...
953
01:10:09,792 --> 01:10:12,500
You're suddenly in the Middle East
954
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:14,042
or Far East...
955
01:10:14,042 --> 01:10:19,417
That made me realise that there was
a very inventive guy there.
956
01:10:19,417 --> 01:10:22,042
I mean, he was really a...
957
01:10:22,042 --> 01:10:23,542
..bit of a genius.
958
01:10:29,458 --> 01:10:33,667
The Volker Schlondorff film Mord und
Totschlag was a big deal
959
01:10:33,667 --> 01:10:35,375
for Anita and for Brian.
960
01:10:35,375 --> 01:10:40,042
It was a starring role for Anita,
with a really good director,
961
01:10:40,042 --> 01:10:44,250
and it was really pretty
like their own - Brian and Anita's -
962
01:10:44,250 --> 01:10:47,292
relationship, where there was
this constant provocation
963
01:10:47,292 --> 01:10:49,458
and escalation of provocation.
964
01:10:56,958 --> 01:10:58,833
Hau ab jetzt.
965
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,000
When Keith went with Anita,
Brian decided to start going out
966
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,083
with Linda Keith, who used
to be Keith's girlfriend.
967
01:15:26,458 --> 01:15:28,375
All their relationships were
968
01:15:28,375 --> 01:15:31,167
always slightly incestuous.
969
01:15:31,167 --> 01:15:33,542
Marianne, you know,
970
01:15:33,542 --> 01:15:37,167
when she gave up with Mick,
she went with Brian...
971
01:15:38,333 --> 01:15:41,083
..and then she went with Keith.
972
01:15:41,083 --> 01:15:43,958
So she went with three of them.
973
01:15:43,958 --> 01:15:48,500
Anita went with Brian, she went with
Mick, she went with Keith.
974
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:51,042
It was all very mixed up,
you know?
975
01:15:51,042 --> 01:15:55,458
Girls would end up being with
another member of the band.
976
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:59,375
Seeing the state of Brian,
977
01:15:59,375 --> 01:16:03,250
his parents finally reached out to
help him.
978
01:16:03,250 --> 01:16:07,958
What I firmly believe was
the turning point in Brian's life
979
01:16:07,958 --> 01:16:12,208
was when he lost the only
girl he ever really loved.
980
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:17,792
When his mother and I saw him
for the first time for some months
981
01:16:17,792 --> 01:16:22,708
after this happening, we were quite
shocked by the changes
982
01:16:22,708 --> 01:16:24,375
of his appearance, and in our
opinion
983
01:16:24,375 --> 01:16:26,792
he was never the same boy again.
984
01:16:26,792 --> 01:16:31,458
He changed suddenly and alarmingly
985
01:16:31,458 --> 01:16:38,000
from a bright, enthusiastic young
man to a quiet and morose
986
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,583
and inward-looking young man.
987
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,042
Brian and Linda Keith's relationship
was tempestuous and drug-fuelled,
988
01:16:48,042 --> 01:16:51,917
with Brian recovering from Anita
and Linda from Keith.
989
01:16:53,292 --> 01:16:58,917
Linda ended up taking an overdose
in Brian's flat, which she survived.
990
01:16:58,917 --> 01:17:01,333
Brian wrote this to her...
991
01:17:01,333 --> 01:17:04,917
"Dearest darling Linda, I'm
presently very smashed.
992
01:17:05,958 --> 01:17:08,250
"Please be with me.
993
01:17:08,250 --> 01:17:10,208
"I'm so lonely by myself.
994
01:17:10,208 --> 01:17:13,667
"I need you so badly and I love you
so much.
995
01:17:13,667 --> 01:17:16,000
"Please understand what fucked us
up before,
996
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,000
"a terrible combination of
events.
997
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,125
"Please let's start again.
998
01:17:21,125 --> 01:17:25,875
"Please marry me.
Please, please, please.
999
01:17:25,875 --> 01:17:28,167
"All my love, Brian."
1000
01:17:34,917 --> 01:17:36,958
It was a painful year, you know?
1001
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,625
'67 was a year of change
for everybody.
1002
01:17:41,625 --> 01:17:45,375
I mean, '67 was the explosion
of the drug culture.
1003
01:17:55,667 --> 01:18:00,500
The whole infamous Stones drug bust
all followed in the wake of
1004
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:02,917
News Of The World stories that
prided themselves
1005
01:18:02,917 --> 01:18:06,708
in actually busting Mick Jagger and
proclaiming him a drug user.
1006
01:18:06,708 --> 01:18:09,500
The problem was it wasn't Mick.
It was Brian.
1007
01:18:10,875 --> 01:18:14,417
He was hanging in a nightclub called
Blazing and boasting
1008
01:18:14,417 --> 01:18:16,500
about being a druggy hipster.
1009
01:18:17,583 --> 01:18:20,958
He actually told the reporter he
didn't do LSD much these days
1010
01:18:20,958 --> 01:18:24,458
now that everybody had taken
it up and, you know, he was doing
1011
01:18:24,458 --> 01:18:26,125
it before anybody else.
1012
01:18:27,292 --> 01:18:30,417
For Mick, Brian was the villain
of the piece.
1013
01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:38,500
The only person who was really,
really out of it on drugs was Brian.
1014
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:40,000
This was like the last straw,
1015
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,750
the straw that broke the camel's
back with Brian.
1016
01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:45,625
And I think it brought up a lot
of bad feelings that were already
1017
01:18:45,625 --> 01:18:47,917
there about Brian.
1018
01:18:47,917 --> 01:18:50,833
Mick didn't know he'd end up in
prison.
1019
01:18:50,833 --> 01:18:52,458
It was just dreadful.
1020
01:18:52,458 --> 01:18:55,375
But it was very frightening, because
you saw the sort of the power
1021
01:18:55,375 --> 01:18:57,458
of the state, the power of the
status quo,
1022
01:18:57,458 --> 01:19:01,250
the whole thing coming
down on them - for nothing.
1023
01:19:02,875 --> 01:19:06,792
Mick was very, very, very desperate
and just in...
1024
01:19:06,792 --> 01:19:08,917
It was a horrible thing.
1025
01:19:08,917 --> 01:19:10,958
I don't think he ever thought this
sort of thing
1026
01:19:10,958 --> 01:19:13,833
would ever happen to him
in his life.
1027
01:19:13,833 --> 01:19:19,125
And I must say, to my shame,
I wasn't very compassionate at all.
1028
01:19:19,125 --> 01:19:21,750
If you need to cry, you cry.
1029
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:26,042
It was a real moment of truth
and vulnerability.
1030
01:19:26,042 --> 01:19:29,500
Needless to say, he never,
ever showed it again.
1031
01:20:59,208 --> 01:21:02,292
The phone rings and it's Brian.
1032
01:21:02,292 --> 01:21:05,792
And he said, "I'm not going... I'm
not going to come tomorrow."
1033
01:21:05,792 --> 01:21:08,708
And I said... I said, "Huh? Why?"
1034
01:21:08,708 --> 01:21:10,958
And he said, "Because they are so
mean to me."
1035
01:21:10,958 --> 01:21:13,125
And I said, "Who's so mean?"
1036
01:21:13,125 --> 01:21:17,125
He said, "Mick and Keith,
they are making my life hell."
1037
01:21:17,125 --> 01:21:21,500
Naively, I said, "Well, what would
the Rolling Stones be without you?"
1038
01:21:21,500 --> 01:21:23,833
And anyway, I'm thinking, "What
the fuck do we do with four
1039
01:21:23,833 --> 01:21:27,583
"Rolling Stones if we really are
looking at five Rolling Stones?"
1040
01:21:27,583 --> 01:21:31,042
And so then he stopped,
1041
01:21:31,042 --> 01:21:35,000
he listened and he stopped crying,
1042
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,000
and he said, "It's
just been a hard day."
1043
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,625
And also, you don't know how much
he's...
1044
01:21:38,625 --> 01:21:40,708
I think he was drinking a lot.
1045
01:21:40,708 --> 01:21:44,208
I convinced him to come
the next day.
1046
01:21:44,208 --> 01:21:46,708
There was something kind
of childlike about him,
1047
01:21:46,708 --> 01:21:49,542
because then he had dressed
kind of like a wizard.
1048
01:21:49,542 --> 01:21:54,708
Then when they got onstage at two
in the morning, he was...
1049
01:21:54,708 --> 01:21:58,417
I would say he was drunk because he
looked it,
1050
01:21:58,417 --> 01:22:04,375
and he could play the maracas and he
could play the slide...
1051
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:09,083
..he could hardly play the guitar
in the regular way.
1052
01:22:11,792 --> 01:22:14,667
He looked dreadful, really.
1053
01:22:14,667 --> 01:22:16,500
His big bags under his eyes.
1054
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:19,542
I mean, really, bags under his eyes
for a guy of 26.
1055
01:22:24,042 --> 01:22:25,792
He was just gone.
1056
01:22:25,792 --> 01:22:27,625
Well, he wouldn't turn up half
the time.
1057
01:22:27,625 --> 01:22:29,917
When he did turn up, he was not
in any condition
1058
01:22:29,917 --> 01:22:31,958
to do anything, had to baby him.
1059
01:22:31,958 --> 01:22:34,208
And it was very sad.
1060
01:22:35,625 --> 01:22:39,208
I saw him as another person
with incredibly low self-esteem
1061
01:22:39,208 --> 01:22:43,750
who needed help not to be destroyed
and ground underfoot.
1062
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:47,583
And that's when I kind of realised
what was going on
1063
01:22:47,583 --> 01:22:50,083
and how it was going to affect me.
1064
01:22:52,417 --> 01:22:57,458
That kind of ruthlessness, you know,
the bit where they would pretend
1065
01:22:57,458 --> 01:23:00,667
to be recording Brian and not
have him plugged in,
1066
01:23:00,667 --> 01:23:02,083
that was really terrible.
1067
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:20,083
CROWD CLAMOURS
1068
01:23:22,833 --> 01:23:27,375
Both Marianne and Brian,
they were victims of the Stones.
1069
01:23:27,375 --> 01:23:29,583
She realised she was no
longer useful...
1070
01:23:30,958 --> 01:23:36,667
..and he was especially horrified
to be ostracised from his band.
1071
01:24:05,667 --> 01:24:09,875
A rock group is sort of like a,
you know, a primitive tribe.
1072
01:24:09,875 --> 01:24:14,750
People are often killed in tribes,
psychically, if they're expelled.
1073
01:24:14,750 --> 01:24:16,875
And a rock group is sort
of like that.
1074
01:24:16,875 --> 01:24:21,750
I mean, their whole lifeblood comes
from that bond.
1075
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:27,125
Once they're of no use, that
is...oddly fatal.
1076
01:24:28,500 --> 01:24:31,542
Like, nobody wants to talk
to them or deal with them.
1077
01:24:31,542 --> 01:24:34,458
They just go off into the woods
and die.
1078
01:24:37,375 --> 01:24:39,792
I felt like he was very much
the underdog.
1079
01:24:39,792 --> 01:24:44,667
He was lost and, you know,
I just felt for him.
1080
01:24:44,667 --> 01:24:46,417
I felt that he had been...
1081
01:24:48,083 --> 01:24:50,750
..badly treated.
1082
01:24:50,750 --> 01:24:52,750
I remember he had a dog.
1083
01:24:53,958 --> 01:24:55,417
She was a spaniel.
1084
01:24:55,417 --> 01:24:56,625
Such a sweet dog.
1085
01:24:57,667 --> 01:25:01,875
She was maybe about five years old,
and she looked about 20
1086
01:25:01,875 --> 01:25:06,917
because she'd eaten a cake with acid
and she'd gone on a trip
1087
01:25:06,917 --> 01:25:10,667
that had lasted sort of months
and months.
1088
01:25:10,667 --> 01:25:13,750
You know, sad things that happen.
1089
01:25:16,917 --> 01:25:20,875
Charlie phoned me up, phone went
about three in the morning
1090
01:25:20,875 --> 01:25:24,167
and he just said, "Brian died."
1091
01:25:26,917 --> 01:25:28,917
I couldn't believe it, you know?
1092
01:25:28,917 --> 01:25:33,958
It was such a blow that, you know,
you just don't accept it for weeks.
1093
01:25:34,958 --> 01:25:36,667
You can't really believe it's true.
1094
01:25:36,667 --> 01:25:38,083
And I mean, I don't...
1095
01:25:38,083 --> 01:25:40,042
I don't think we slept after that,
1096
01:25:40,042 --> 01:25:41,917
we just laid and talked and...
1097
01:25:43,083 --> 01:25:45,042
Just couldn't understand it.
1098
01:25:48,458 --> 01:25:52,000
I think he'd been doing
what he always used to do,
1099
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,167
and that was taken downers and doing
heavy alcohol,
1100
01:25:56,167 --> 01:25:58,667
and fell asleep in the pool.
1101
01:25:58,667 --> 01:26:00,792
It was basically that simple.
1102
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:06,208
He got much nicer to...
1103
01:26:06,208 --> 01:26:09,833
Just before he died, you know,
the last few years of his life,
1104
01:26:09,833 --> 01:26:14,083
I felt even sorrier for him
for what we did to him then.
1105
01:26:14,083 --> 01:26:17,625
We took his one thing away,
which was being in a band.
1106
01:26:21,833 --> 01:26:24,667
It really knocked us back.
1107
01:26:24,667 --> 01:26:29,542
I mean, been with that cat for seven
or eight years nonstop, you know?
1108
01:26:30,625 --> 01:26:33,625
To have him suddenly removed
completely.
1109
01:26:37,083 --> 01:26:39,917
Although it was a shock
when it actually happened,
1110
01:26:39,917 --> 01:26:42,583
nobody was really that surprised
too.
1111
01:26:42,583 --> 01:26:45,375
There are people... I'm sure
that everybody's got those things
1112
01:26:45,375 --> 01:26:47,625
about certain people everybody
knows people that...
1113
01:26:47,625 --> 01:26:50,250
..you just have that feeling that
they're not going to be...
1114
01:26:50,250 --> 01:26:52,875
they're not going to be 70 years old
ever, you know?
1115
01:26:53,917 --> 01:26:55,583
Not everybody makes it.
1116
01:27:15,625 --> 01:27:17,542
I was just 20,
1117
01:27:17,542 --> 01:27:21,875
and we were all incredibly
shocked by Brian's death.
1118
01:27:21,875 --> 01:27:26,000
It was the first drug-alcohol
casualty of our generation.
1119
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:30,917
We felt his death marked the end
of the '60s, and the concert
1120
01:27:30,917 --> 01:27:34,792
in the park which we all went to
was very much the end of the '60s
1121
01:27:34,792 --> 01:27:39,875
and a sort of mass funeral
for everything that had gone before.
1122
01:27:39,875 --> 01:27:42,667
You just knew there was going
to be a massive change,
1123
01:27:42,667 --> 01:27:46,083
and Brian's death somehow was
an emblem for that.
1124
01:27:53,500 --> 01:27:58,042
I flew to London immediately
from Munich when I heard about it.
1125
01:27:59,292 --> 01:28:03,500
I was there, and stayed with Anita
and Keith in their house.
1126
01:28:06,958 --> 01:28:09,833
We were talking and sitting
and hugging.
1127
01:28:13,042 --> 01:28:17,167
There was a mourning and sadness
around all of them.
1128
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,083
It was a very emotional thing,
the way they organised
1129
01:28:25,083 --> 01:28:30,042
this farewell and goodbye,
as if to say,
1130
01:28:30,042 --> 01:28:34,000
"Now you're still - or again -
one of us."
1131
01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:39,500
And Mick was very upset.
1132
01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:42,333
APPLAUSE
1133
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,708
I just want to say something
that was written by Shelley,
1134
01:28:47,708 --> 01:28:51,208
and I think it goes with
what happened to Brian.
1135
01:28:53,167 --> 01:28:58,292
Peace, peace! He is not dead,
he does not sleep.
1136
01:28:58,292 --> 01:29:01,167
He has awakened
from the dreams of life.
1137
01:29:01,167 --> 01:29:03,042
APPLAUSE
1138
01:29:03,042 --> 01:29:06,250
Brian was so sensitive, really,
1139
01:29:06,250 --> 01:29:10,542
because Brian was so sensitive
to everything, you know what I mean?
1140
01:29:10,542 --> 01:29:14,375
I suppose there was a kind of
feeling that I knew that Brian
would...
1141
01:29:14,375 --> 01:29:17,125
If anyone was going to die,
Brian was going to die.
1142
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,625
I mean, I always knew that Brian
wouldn't really live that long.
1143
01:29:27,125 --> 01:29:29,792
But he just... He lived his life
very fast.
1144
01:29:37,083 --> 01:29:39,917
He was... He was kind
of like a butterfly.
1145
01:29:51,167 --> 01:29:55,917
40 years after Brian died, a box
of old letters addressed to Brian
1146
01:29:55,917 --> 01:30:00,083
were discovered in the attic
of Linda Lawrence's family house.
1147
01:30:00,083 --> 01:30:03,125
In it was this letter
from Brian's father.
1148
01:30:04,958 --> 01:30:09,750
"My dear Brian,
we have had unhappy times
1149
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:15,542
"and I have been a very poor and
intolerant father in so many ways.
1150
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,333
"You grew up in such a different way
from that
1151
01:30:20,333 --> 01:30:22,333
"in which I expected you to.
1152
01:30:22,333 --> 01:30:25,542
"I was quite out of my depth.
1153
01:30:25,542 --> 01:30:29,667
"In my most drastic of all actions,
1154
01:30:29,667 --> 01:30:34,000
"which I shall never forget
or cease to worry over,
1155
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,708
"I felt it was the only way
to save my home
1156
01:30:37,708 --> 01:30:40,625
"and bring you to terms with
yourself.
1157
01:30:41,792 --> 01:30:46,125
"I don't suppose you will ever
forgive me, but all I ask
1158
01:30:46,125 --> 01:30:50,625
"is just a little of that affection
I think you once had for me.
1159
01:30:53,500 --> 01:30:56,375
"This is a very private
and personal note.
1160
01:30:56,375 --> 01:30:58,042
"Don't trouble to reply.
1161
01:31:02,333 --> 01:31:04,458
"Love, Dad."
1162
01:31:10,917 --> 01:31:12,917
MUSIC: Rollin' Stone
by Muddy Waters
1163
01:31:21,708 --> 01:31:24,292
# I'll be a rollin' stone
1164
01:31:24,292 --> 01:31:26,500
# You gonna be a rollin' stone
1165
01:31:28,208 --> 01:31:29,792
# You gonna be a rollin' stone
1166
01:31:31,458 --> 01:31:33,333
# Oh, darn
1167
01:31:34,667 --> 01:31:36,792
# Sure 'nough, he gon'
1168
01:31:38,125 --> 01:31:39,750
# Oh, yeah
1169
01:31:49,792 --> 01:31:52,500
# Well, I feel
1170
01:31:52,500 --> 01:31:55,708
# Yes, I feel
1171
01:31:55,708 --> 01:32:01,375
# Feel that I could lay down, oh,
time ain't long
1172
01:32:02,708 --> 01:32:06,500
# I'ma catch the first
thing smokin' back
1173
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:08,500
# Back down the road I'm goin'
1174
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,500
# Back down the road I'm goin'
1175
01:32:13,042 --> 01:32:14,708
# Back down the road I'm goin'
1176
01:32:16,417 --> 01:32:19,250
# Oh, God, oh... #
96081
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