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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,098 --> 00:00:08,098 www.titlovi.com 2 00:00:11,098 --> 00:00:12,378 In commercial printing, 3 00:00:12,621 --> 00:00:14,014 please press three. 4 00:00:14,449 --> 00:00:17,104 For the newsroom, please press four. 5 00:00:17,278 --> 00:00:19,628 For all other departments, please press... 6 00:00:23,719 --> 00:00:25,286 Hi, I was wondering who I would speak to 7 00:00:25,460 --> 00:00:27,940 regarding an upcoming local news event. 8 00:00:28,376 --> 00:00:29,788 Oh, okay, great. 9 00:00:29,812 --> 00:00:31,452 Uh, I'm calling from "Big News Publicity", 10 00:00:31,596 --> 00:00:34,251 and there's a rally that's taking place tomorrow 11 00:00:34,425 --> 00:00:37,646 at the State Capitol by the Satanic Temple. 12 00:00:38,690 --> 00:00:40,214 The Satanic Temple. 13 00:00:41,606 --> 00:00:43,478 S... S as in Sam. 14 00:00:46,437 --> 00:00:47,437 Great, thank you. 15 00:00:49,484 --> 00:00:52,226 And there you have it, and that was an ABC affiliate. 16 00:01:06,718 --> 00:01:07,718 Camera rolls. 17 00:01:09,939 --> 00:01:13,377 Okay. 18 00:01:13,551 --> 00:01:15,597 We thank you for coming to our convening. 19 00:01:16,206 --> 00:01:17,294 Hail Satan. 20 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:20,253 Not bad. 21 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:23,133 Could you hold it for a beat longer? 22 00:01:23,909 --> 00:01:24,909 Hail Satan. 23 00:01:25,781 --> 00:01:27,130 Damn it. 24 00:01:33,223 --> 00:01:35,573 Test, one, two. 25 00:01:40,839 --> 00:01:41,839 Hey, how's it going? 26 00:01:42,493 --> 00:01:44,413 It's going fantastic. - Why are you here today? 27 00:01:45,409 --> 00:01:47,542 We're here to spread a message of goodwill, 28 00:01:47,716 --> 00:01:50,022 and benevolence, and open-mindedness, 29 00:01:50,197 --> 00:01:52,155 and free expression. - What is your name? 30 00:01:53,330 --> 00:01:54,330 That's not important. 31 00:01:56,986 --> 00:01:58,988 It's a beautiful day here at the State Capitol... 32 00:02:00,729 --> 00:02:02,339 great day to be a Satanist... 33 00:02:03,253 --> 00:02:04,863 great day to be a human being. 34 00:02:06,256 --> 00:02:09,433 We honor Governor Rick Scott! 35 00:02:10,173 --> 00:02:11,479 Hail Satan, Rick, 36 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:14,090 for providing us this opportunity 37 00:02:14,308 --> 00:02:16,092 to make the Satanic clause clear 38 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:18,660 and make our presence known, and, uh... 39 00:02:21,663 --> 00:02:23,491 I believe it, and I'm very excited about it. 40 00:02:25,623 --> 00:02:27,103 A satanic temple 41 00:02:27,582 --> 00:02:30,062 fully supports Florida Governor Rick Scott, who has been 42 00:02:30,237 --> 00:02:32,239 pushing for prayer in public schools. 43 00:02:32,413 --> 00:02:35,546 Jesus Christ became my savior at a very young age... 44 00:02:35,807 --> 00:02:38,070 That's right, Satanists pushing for prayer 45 00:02:38,245 --> 00:02:40,290 and backing a Tea Party favorite. 46 00:02:40,464 --> 00:02:42,423 We spoke to one of the Satanists today 47 00:02:42,597 --> 00:02:44,512 about why they support the law. 48 00:02:44,947 --> 00:02:47,428 Lucien Greaves, and yes, that is the name 49 00:02:47,602 --> 00:02:48,777 the gentleman gave us, 50 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:51,258 told us that the law would lead to, quote, 51 00:02:51,606 --> 00:02:53,999 "A boom in religious diversity." 52 00:02:54,522 --> 00:02:57,177 Basically, the argument being you open the door to God, 53 00:02:57,351 --> 00:02:58,830 you open the door to Satan. 54 00:02:59,309 --> 00:03:00,549 We're not what you think we are, 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,444 and we're here to... we're here to help people 56 00:03:03,618 --> 00:03:06,534 understand that about us and also about themselves. 57 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:08,627 What do you think of Rick Scott? 58 00:03:08,884 --> 00:03:10,233 Think he's a great American. 59 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:14,194 I do, and, uh... - Man: 60 00:03:14,846 --> 00:03:15,846 No. 61 00:03:16,326 --> 00:03:17,458 Hail Satan! 62 00:03:17,675 --> 00:03:19,721 Hail Satan. - Hail Satan. 63 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:20,896 Hail Satan! 64 00:04:05,897 --> 00:04:08,073 It was awkward. it was messy, 65 00:04:08,552 --> 00:04:12,164 and it was awesome. It was national news, 66 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:15,037 but more importantly, we realized 67 00:04:15,211 --> 00:04:16,691 that we were on to something. 68 00:04:17,474 --> 00:04:20,216 And where did the name "The Satanic Temple" come from? 69 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:23,524 When I was looking at all the different 70 00:04:23,698 --> 00:04:26,353 Satanic organizations that existed, 71 00:04:26,527 --> 00:04:29,356 uh, the name wasn't taken. 72 00:04:29,617 --> 00:04:32,533 The Rick Scott rally was a media stunt 73 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:35,536 to show the hypocrisy of what Rick Scott was doing, 74 00:04:35,971 --> 00:04:37,755 and it required a spokesperson. 75 00:04:38,974 --> 00:04:41,237 I didn't want to do it. 76 00:04:45,546 --> 00:04:47,199 He is the leader of the Satanic Temple, 77 00:04:47,374 --> 00:04:50,333 and we're gonna be on the steps of the Capitol Building. 78 00:04:51,682 --> 00:04:53,042 Usually when I think of, like, 79 00:04:53,205 --> 00:04:55,207 a gaggle of satanic, you know, worshippers, 80 00:04:55,382 --> 00:04:56,837 I think of them wearing, like, the red hoods. 81 00:04:56,861 --> 00:04:57,981 Yeah. - Yeah. 82 00:04:58,254 --> 00:04:59,574 Like, that's like the group color, 83 00:05:00,082 --> 00:05:02,693 and then leader color would be, like, black, gray, brown. 84 00:05:02,954 --> 00:05:03,954 Oh, I like that. 85 00:05:04,565 --> 00:05:07,437 When we first started, it was staged, 86 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,353 and there was an actor involved, 87 00:05:10,745 --> 00:05:15,532 but very quickly, um, everything got real. 88 00:05:27,152 --> 00:05:30,199 At the beginning, we didn't have the hubris 89 00:05:30,373 --> 00:05:32,288 to think that we could start 90 00:05:32,723 --> 00:05:36,640 a large global religious movement. 91 00:05:38,947 --> 00:05:40,731 When the Satanic Temple got started, 92 00:05:41,036 --> 00:05:42,211 I wanted to be sure 93 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:45,040 that Satanism was properly represented. 94 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:49,958 I very much felt that I was a Satanist, 95 00:05:50,132 --> 00:05:54,049 but there was no need to kind of publicly advertise that. 96 00:05:56,486 --> 00:05:57,486 Lucien. 97 00:05:58,575 --> 00:05:59,575 You excited? 98 00:06:00,969 --> 00:06:02,057 Not yet. 99 00:06:03,145 --> 00:06:04,145 You excited? 100 00:06:04,929 --> 00:06:08,411 No. I'm filled with angst. 101 00:06:08,933 --> 00:06:12,241 I wanted somebody else to be the face of this, 102 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:14,025 but I... I found very quickly 103 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:16,370 I didn't want somebody else to be the voice of this. 104 00:06:17,289 --> 00:06:18,943 God and Satan work in mysterious ways, 105 00:06:19,117 --> 00:06:20,399 and we're not really sure, you know, 106 00:06:20,423 --> 00:06:21,663 how all this is gonna manifest. 107 00:06:22,033 --> 00:06:23,818 It became very clear that there was 108 00:06:23,992 --> 00:06:27,256 no amount of coaching I could give somebody 109 00:06:27,865 --> 00:06:33,088 who wasn't authentically attached to Satanism 110 00:06:33,436 --> 00:06:36,918 that would make them a credible interview subject on the topic. 111 00:06:37,092 --> 00:06:38,963 Why'd you guys pick, uh, Governor Scott... 112 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:43,664 When it became my face and my voice, 113 00:06:44,099 --> 00:06:48,843 it needed to be everything I believed in and stood by, 114 00:06:49,191 --> 00:06:51,149 or it could not be at all, 115 00:06:51,585 --> 00:06:56,416 so that's when everything changed. 116 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:00,091 We will begin with Lucien. All right, Lucien. 117 00:07:00,115 --> 00:07:02,117 So is it, like, Lucien as in Lucifer? 118 00:07:02,291 --> 00:07:04,946 Is that where... is that why you're called that? 119 00:07:06,077 --> 00:07:07,209 Sure, as you like. 120 00:07:07,383 --> 00:07:08,906 As you like. 121 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,126 I don't kn... Like, is that your birth name? 122 00:07:12,388 --> 00:07:13,781 No, it's not. - Okay. 123 00:07:14,259 --> 00:07:17,349 So, what is it that first drew you to the Satanic Temple? 124 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:21,441 Well, I... I helped co-found the Satanic Temple. 125 00:07:22,224 --> 00:07:23,224 Why? 126 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:27,316 Uh, why? Because it is an embodiment 127 00:07:27,490 --> 00:07:28,883 of my deeply-held beliefs, 128 00:07:29,361 --> 00:07:32,234 and I think there's a distinct need for a counterbalance 129 00:07:32,408 --> 00:07:36,107 against the dominant religious privilege in America today. 130 00:07:36,543 --> 00:07:38,022 What are the deeply-held beliefs 131 00:07:38,196 --> 00:07:40,851 that drew you to the Satanic Temple? 132 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:46,291 Uh, essentially, we view, uh, Satan as a symbolic embodiment 133 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:49,425 of the ultimate rebel against tyranny. 134 00:07:50,731 --> 00:07:52,839 Once you realize how the media is constructed, 135 00:07:52,863 --> 00:07:55,300 it becomes incredibly easy to manipulate. 136 00:07:57,607 --> 00:07:58,607 Good evening to you, 137 00:07:59,043 --> 00:08:00,654 at six o'clock I'm Chip Scarborough. 138 00:08:00,828 --> 00:08:02,569 Well, the owner of a Meridian cemetery 139 00:08:02,743 --> 00:08:05,485 has already said he plans to pursue charges 140 00:08:05,659 --> 00:08:08,488 against members of New York's Satanic Temple, 141 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:10,228 and now police are investigating 142 00:08:10,402 --> 00:08:11,752 the unusual ritual. 143 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:14,189 This you have to see to believe. 144 00:08:14,537 --> 00:08:15,657 A group of devil worshippers 145 00:08:16,452 --> 00:08:18,299 giving Westboro Baptist Church a run for their money. 146 00:08:18,323 --> 00:08:19,542 God hates fags. 147 00:08:20,064 --> 00:08:22,240 Except you repent, you shall all likewise perish, 148 00:08:22,414 --> 00:08:24,982 and God is not running out of room in hell. 149 00:08:26,114 --> 00:08:28,116 How do you fuck with Fred Phelps? 150 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:31,380 Well... you fuck with his mom. 151 00:08:32,555 --> 00:08:34,875 A group from New York's Satanic Temple made the trip 152 00:08:34,992 --> 00:08:38,039 to Meridian to protest the Westboro Baptist Church. 153 00:08:38,213 --> 00:08:40,258 They performed a ritual they called Pink Mass 154 00:08:40,432 --> 00:08:42,217 on the grave of Catherine Johnston, 155 00:08:42,391 --> 00:08:45,263 the mother of Westboro founder Fred Phelps, Jr. 156 00:08:45,568 --> 00:08:47,614 The ceremony involved two same-sex couples 157 00:08:47,788 --> 00:08:49,006 kissing over her grave. 158 00:08:49,398 --> 00:08:50,838 They then declared Catherine Johnston 159 00:08:51,008 --> 00:08:52,836 a lesbian in the afterlife. 160 00:08:53,924 --> 00:08:55,902 One of the things that I wanted to play on is, 161 00:08:55,926 --> 00:08:57,711 you know, the Mormons have the belief 162 00:08:57,928 --> 00:08:59,321 that they can baptize the dead 163 00:08:59,495 --> 00:09:01,889 and do this postmortem conversion, 164 00:09:02,237 --> 00:09:05,849 so I proposed that every time a same-sex couple kisses, 165 00:09:06,023 --> 00:09:07,808 that she's pleasured in the afterlife. 166 00:09:07,982 --> 00:09:10,288 You know, which I took from "It's a Wonderful Life." 167 00:09:10,462 --> 00:09:11,822 You know, "Every time a bell rings, 168 00:09:11,899 --> 00:09:13,074 an angel gets its wings." 169 00:09:13,422 --> 00:09:17,557 Every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings. 170 00:09:18,209 --> 00:09:19,209 That's right. 171 00:09:20,081 --> 00:09:21,885 And then developing, as these things do, 172 00:09:21,909 --> 00:09:26,435 into the obvious idea, which is putting your testicles 173 00:09:26,609 --> 00:09:29,743 on the tombstone of the founder's mother's grave. 174 00:09:31,092 --> 00:09:33,398 It's remarkable, it hadn't happened before. 175 00:09:34,138 --> 00:09:36,924 It is an unusual crime that we haven't come across, 176 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:38,795 to my knowledge, in a while. 177 00:09:39,187 --> 00:09:41,319 There was a desperate attempt to figure out 178 00:09:41,493 --> 00:09:43,539 what to charge us with. 179 00:09:43,713 --> 00:09:47,108 The headline read, "Police Want to Arrest", you know, 180 00:09:47,282 --> 00:09:49,501 "Satanists who Turn the Dead Gay." 181 00:09:51,547 --> 00:09:55,029 Satana, blessed be. 182 00:09:55,203 --> 00:09:57,553 Blasphemy isn't just 183 00:09:57,727 --> 00:10:00,295 directed at other people to offend them. 184 00:10:00,469 --> 00:10:02,340 Blasphemy is very much 185 00:10:02,514 --> 00:10:05,169 a declaration of personal independence, 186 00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:09,173 and I don't mind, of course, when people are offended. 187 00:10:18,661 --> 00:10:21,272 It's a city known for its witch trials, 188 00:10:21,446 --> 00:10:24,014 but the newest neighbors on Bridge Street in Salem 189 00:10:24,188 --> 00:10:27,844 are Satanists, the religious and political organization 190 00:10:28,018 --> 00:10:31,195 choosing this spot for its international headquarters. 191 00:10:31,805 --> 00:10:33,645 According to the Satanic Temple's website, 192 00:10:33,676 --> 00:10:36,331 the group is all about religious pluralism. 193 00:10:40,248 --> 00:10:42,729 What we want to do is force people 194 00:10:42,903 --> 00:10:45,470 to evaluate their notions of the United States 195 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:47,298 being a Christian nation. 196 00:10:47,472 --> 00:10:49,997 It's not. We're a secular nation. 197 00:10:50,214 --> 00:10:52,347 We are supposed to be a democratic, 198 00:10:52,521 --> 00:10:55,872 pluralistic nation. We are supposed to be a nation 199 00:10:56,046 --> 00:10:57,526 that doesn't allow the government 200 00:10:57,831 --> 00:11:01,225 to dictate what is appropriate religious expression. 201 00:11:06,535 --> 00:11:08,363 The donors have to wait to find out 202 00:11:08,537 --> 00:11:10,495 whether those donations are tax-deductible 203 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,541 once there's a ruling. Uh... 204 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:14,151 Early on it was agreed 205 00:11:14,369 --> 00:11:16,850 that Lucien would be the spokesperson 206 00:11:17,328 --> 00:11:19,722 and that I would keep in the background. 207 00:11:21,898 --> 00:11:24,335 Here's our... our humble offices. 208 00:11:24,509 --> 00:11:27,382 This is Malcolm's desk, and this is mine. 209 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:30,254 Sorry about the mess. 210 00:11:34,781 --> 00:11:38,219 This is, uh, where we're going to have the shop. 211 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:44,051 This is where people will be able to buy prints or T-shirts 212 00:11:44,225 --> 00:11:45,879 or whatever else we have on sale. 213 00:11:48,882 --> 00:11:50,579 A lot of what we are doing 214 00:11:50,753 --> 00:11:52,668 is going to direct people's perception 215 00:11:52,842 --> 00:11:55,497 of what Satanism will be hereafter... 216 00:11:56,585 --> 00:12:00,284 but the Satanic Temple did not invent modern Satanism. 217 00:12:04,941 --> 00:12:08,815 You see now the Reverend Anton Szandor LaVey, 218 00:12:09,119 --> 00:12:10,904 who is the founder and high priest 219 00:12:11,078 --> 00:12:12,732 of the First Church of Satan, 220 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:14,821 who uses, as somewhat of a credo, 221 00:12:14,995 --> 00:12:16,170 this timeless quote, 222 00:12:16,605 --> 00:12:19,826 "Remember, evil backwards spells live." 223 00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:24,656 Somehow, that never occurred to me. 224 00:12:25,222 --> 00:12:26,833 The most interesting thing about Satanism 225 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:31,663 is that people... willingly choose to identify 226 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:35,015 with an adversarial being. 227 00:12:36,146 --> 00:12:37,146 What are you doing? 228 00:12:37,626 --> 00:12:39,106 I'm giving a blessing to the audience. 229 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:40,516 I don't think they appreciate it. 230 00:12:41,021 --> 00:12:42,215 They were throwing it back. 231 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:44,328 This is the sign of the horns. 232 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:46,374 It's a founding aspect of Satanism 233 00:12:46,548 --> 00:12:47,941 that you troll people. 234 00:12:48,419 --> 00:12:50,659 That's the original troll, isn't it, is to say to people, 235 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,337 "Yeah, I'm a Satanist", and see what happens to people. 236 00:12:53,511 --> 00:12:56,253 I mean, they just... they faint, or they get angry, 237 00:12:56,427 --> 00:12:59,953 or whatever happens, and then you move on from there. 238 00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:07,395 Hail Satan. - Hail Satan. 239 00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:11,703 Satan is simply a word 240 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:15,838 that means the adversary or the opposition 241 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:17,622 or the accuser. 242 00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:21,452 It doesn't necessarily mean evil, or brutality, or cruelty. 243 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:23,280 It simply means the dissenter. 244 00:13:23,454 --> 00:13:25,892 Well, I had a man come to me the other day, 245 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:28,111 and he said that it was just terrible. 246 00:13:28,285 --> 00:13:29,983 When... when he joined the Satanic Church, 247 00:13:30,157 --> 00:13:32,637 he was masturbating just about every day, 248 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,509 and now he's masturbating 249 00:13:34,683 --> 00:13:36,163 two and sometimes three times a day... 250 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:37,836 ...and he's very happy, 251 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:39,420 much happier than he's ever been before. 252 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:40,926 That's an improvement. 253 00:13:40,950 --> 00:13:43,126 I always get a lift when I come here. 254 00:13:43,648 --> 00:13:46,173 I suppose like other people do when they go to church, 255 00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:49,350 which I haven't done for many years now. 256 00:13:56,183 --> 00:13:57,543 Before the Church of Satan, 257 00:13:58,098 --> 00:14:00,709 every time you had someone who was called a Satanist, 258 00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:03,581 that was because of attribution by other people. 259 00:14:04,017 --> 00:14:05,975 Cover her face... - No! 260 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:07,847 ...with the mask of Satan. 261 00:14:10,371 --> 00:14:12,852 But the Church of Satan is a watershed moment 262 00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,071 in the history of Satanism because that's where 263 00:14:15,245 --> 00:14:17,334 the attribution of a Satanic identity 264 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:20,990 is not just something that some people do to others. 265 00:14:21,251 --> 00:14:23,688 It's something that people do to themselves. 266 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:27,953 One of the differences 267 00:14:28,476 --> 00:14:29,756 between the early Church of Satan 268 00:14:30,391 --> 00:14:32,325 and the Satanic Temple, that the early Church of Satan 269 00:14:32,349 --> 00:14:34,003 was much more of a rat pack carnival. 270 00:14:34,699 --> 00:14:37,964 They were never political, whereas the Satanic Temple 271 00:14:38,138 --> 00:14:42,838 is actually refining Satanism and making it into a new tool, 272 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:45,928 a new weapon in the ongoing culture wars. 273 00:15:29,145 --> 00:15:31,800 If you're godless, free-thinking, 274 00:15:32,322 --> 00:15:34,846 and a rebel, then you are a Satanist 275 00:15:35,021 --> 00:15:37,806 in the eyes of many in our community and society, 276 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:39,764 and certainly by people in your government... 277 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:42,506 whether you like it or not. 278 00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:48,034 Before I decided that I was a Satanist, 279 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:49,731 it was really the Bible that said, 280 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:51,385 "This is what a Satanist is like." 281 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:54,910 I attended church when I was a kid, 282 00:15:55,084 --> 00:15:57,652 and funny story is that I played Eve 283 00:15:57,826 --> 00:16:00,350 in a musical in middle school. 284 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:04,267 The story of Adam and Eve 285 00:16:04,528 --> 00:16:07,531 is the story of Eve's original sin. 286 00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:11,971 Eve was very curious, as her nature was as a woman. 287 00:16:16,627 --> 00:16:18,760 The Devil appeared in the form of a snake 288 00:16:19,326 --> 00:16:21,937 and offers the fruit of enlightenment. 289 00:16:22,938 --> 00:16:26,072 We are taught to fear that, 290 00:16:26,246 --> 00:16:28,311 but at the same time, it seems the most liberating, 291 00:16:28,335 --> 00:16:30,424 because if we did not have that opportunity, 292 00:16:30,598 --> 00:16:32,469 we would have to be in total servitude 293 00:16:32,643 --> 00:16:33,949 without free choice, 294 00:16:34,254 --> 00:16:37,257 and ultimate servitude is slavery. 295 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:39,476 Reframing it in the light of it being salvation 296 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:41,478 is probably one of the greatest tricks 297 00:16:41,652 --> 00:16:43,524 ever played on humankind. 298 00:17:06,286 --> 00:17:09,289 Satanism is about embracing that Satanic status 299 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:11,726 rather than being controlled by it. 300 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:15,251 After I learned about the Satanic Temple, 301 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:17,949 I set up a time to meet with Lucien. 302 00:17:21,605 --> 00:17:22,725 Throughout the conversation, 303 00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:24,986 I realized that we have very similar ideas 304 00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:28,656 of what contemporary Satanism was evolving to be. 305 00:17:35,010 --> 00:17:36,838 The Devil directly challenged God... 306 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:39,797 so as a Satanist, I believe that 307 00:17:39,971 --> 00:17:43,453 directly confronting injustice and corrupt authority 308 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:45,977 is an expression of one's Satanic faith. 309 00:17:49,111 --> 00:17:53,202 And I believe activism is a Satanic practice. 310 00:17:59,991 --> 00:18:02,559 Traditionally, Satanists practiced very privately, 311 00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:04,039 you know, closed doors, 312 00:18:04,213 --> 00:18:06,085 black candles, black metal music. 313 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:09,827 But, with the Satanic philosophy 314 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:11,655 being one where Satan represents 315 00:18:11,829 --> 00:18:13,918 rebellion against arbitrary authority, 316 00:18:14,441 --> 00:18:17,748 we believe it required a level of political participation. 317 00:18:17,922 --> 00:18:19,359 We are Satanists. 318 00:18:20,751 --> 00:18:22,362 We are also Americans. 319 00:18:22,971 --> 00:18:24,407 We are just as powerful 320 00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:26,757 as those who work in this institution here. 321 00:18:29,499 --> 00:18:33,590 We do not seek followers. We are seeking collaborators, 322 00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:37,725 individuals for a visionary Satanic alliance, 323 00:18:38,247 --> 00:18:41,076 leaders of the new American era. 324 00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:51,987 I think that we need to go into the public sphere 325 00:18:52,043 --> 00:18:54,307 and announce ourselves without shame. 326 00:18:54,568 --> 00:18:57,353 Hail Satan. - Hail Satan. 327 00:18:57,527 --> 00:19:00,617 Hail Satan. - Hail Satan! 328 00:19:01,401 --> 00:19:04,099 Satanic Temple is mostly an idea 329 00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:07,407 between a handful of people that had potential, 330 00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:10,932 and the problem was how do we engage more individuals 331 00:19:11,106 --> 00:19:12,977 and how do we make it, you know, take off? 332 00:19:14,631 --> 00:19:17,112 It's one of the strangest stories to roil Boston 333 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:19,854 in recent memory. A Satanic Black Mass 334 00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:22,161 was scheduled yesterday on Harvard's campus. 335 00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:24,337 Here to talk more about the black mass 336 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:26,774 is Lucien Greaves. So, Lucien, just for people... 337 00:19:26,948 --> 00:19:29,472 Lucien and Malcolm had gotten permission 338 00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:31,344 to host a Black Mass... 339 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:36,697 in Boston. Uh, yeah, Boston's, uh, 340 00:19:36,914 --> 00:19:38,264 it's pretty fucking Catholic. 341 00:19:39,961 --> 00:19:43,094 A Black Mass is a grotesque, 342 00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:47,447 deliberate perversion of a traditional Catholic mass, 343 00:19:47,621 --> 00:19:49,100 you know, quite vulgar, 344 00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:51,581 but then again, a mass is kind of vulgar too, 345 00:19:51,755 --> 00:19:52,915 if you really think about it. 346 00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:54,908 I mean, you're drinking blood and eating flesh? 347 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,804 I mean, that... that's just creepy. 348 00:19:57,413 --> 00:19:59,720 They asked if I wanted to participate, so I flew out, 349 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,588 and there was a lot of miscommunication 350 00:20:01,678 --> 00:20:02,678 in the beginning. 351 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,961 But I did the work of getting a lot of people to show up. 352 00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:08,032 The punk scene was mobilized. 353 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:12,646 We thought this would be a small-scale event. 354 00:20:12,863 --> 00:20:15,301 A declaration of independence from superstition 355 00:20:15,518 --> 00:20:19,957 was what it was meant to be, but the archdiocese in Boston 356 00:20:20,436 --> 00:20:22,569 insisted on seeing it another way. 357 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,471 Thousands of Catholic 358 00:20:33,797 --> 00:20:35,321 in a more-than-hour-long procession 359 00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:36,931 through the streets of Cambridge. 360 00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:40,717 If someone was going to do a KKK reenactment 361 00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:43,154 or a minstrel show or something like that, 362 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:45,983 I would hope the reaction would be outrage. 363 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:48,029 This is definitely an act of hatred, 364 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:50,553 an act of bigotry directed towards the Church 365 00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:52,338 and towards her faithful people. 366 00:20:52,512 --> 00:20:54,272 We've actually got a little bit of a petition 367 00:20:54,383 --> 00:20:57,038 if anybody watching would like to sign. 368 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,997 Nearly 60.000 names of people 369 00:21:00,171 --> 00:21:01,912 who objected to this hateful event. 370 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:03,673 There was a sense that we should just give up 371 00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:05,438 and cancel it, and I just remember feeling, 372 00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:07,918 like this unexpected sense of justice and feel like, 373 00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:10,138 "No, we can't." I ended up standing on a table 374 00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:11,550 and saying, like, "We weren't... 375 00:21:11,574 --> 00:21:12,854 We aren't gonna give in to this." 376 00:21:14,403 --> 00:21:16,231 In just moments near Harvard University, 377 00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:17,754 some very mean-spirited students 378 00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:19,815 will be exercising their First Amendment right 379 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:21,976 by insulting Catholics not just at Harvard 380 00:21:22,150 --> 00:21:23,499 but around the globe. 381 00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:25,825 They're about to start a satanic mass, which they know 382 00:21:25,849 --> 00:21:28,461 is deeply offensive to Catholics. What do I think? 383 00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:30,075 Well, frankly, I think they're awful. 384 00:21:30,463 --> 00:21:31,463 It was nuts. 385 00:21:32,116 --> 00:21:34,336 It was way more than we had prepared for, 386 00:21:34,641 --> 00:21:38,079 and hours before we were supposed to go on, 387 00:21:38,253 --> 00:21:39,689 Harvard canceled it. 388 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:44,670 This event was, like, extremely chaotic, 389 00:21:44,781 --> 00:21:46,890 and there was no plan for who is communicating with the media, 390 00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:48,805 and, like, I kind of got thrown in front of a news camera. 391 00:21:48,829 --> 00:21:51,048 A very unproductive conversation. 392 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,050 Uh, it's just very disappointing. 393 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:02,016 We're looking for a change of venue right now. 394 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,018 Um, we still have our participants. 395 00:22:04,192 --> 00:22:05,802 We haven't quite worked it out yet. 396 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:07,650 Now apparently you've got this 397 00:22:07,674 --> 00:22:09,893 sort of moving Black Mass. 398 00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:11,347 Where do you think they're going? 399 00:22:11,852 --> 00:22:13,177 Are they, like, going undercover or underground? 400 00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:14,481 I mean, it's sort of interesting 401 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:16,833 because we've been chasing them for the last 90 minutes. 402 00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:19,297 Well, hopefully... ...hopefully they're going away, 403 00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:20,461 that's where they're going. 404 00:22:21,252 --> 00:22:25,822 Some, uh, Chinese restaurant with a comedy club up top of it 405 00:22:25,996 --> 00:22:29,652 just off campus agreed to host the Black Mass. 406 00:22:31,611 --> 00:22:32,655 The Black Mass, 407 00:22:33,221 --> 00:22:34,875 featuring four individuals in hoods, 408 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:37,136 one man in a white suit, a cape, and a horned mask, 409 00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:40,054 and a woman revealed to be wearing only lingerie. 410 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,666 No word on whether they shared a scorpion bowl after. 411 00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:51,587 We were all slightly broken the next day, 412 00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:55,330 and I remember just, like, I had this just wave 413 00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:58,942 of just this core of, like, sadness. I felt guilty. 414 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:01,902 I felt just, "What did I do?" 415 00:23:02,337 --> 00:23:04,252 And then it just occurred to me 416 00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:06,385 this is the Catholic Church of Boston, 417 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,910 which covered up decades of child rape, 418 00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:13,696 moved priests around, covered it up, 419 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:17,308 let them continue their raping and child abuse 420 00:23:17,483 --> 00:23:20,486 and then had the gall to say what we're doing was sinful? 421 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,357 I mean, fuck them. 422 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:26,230 Uh, that was the moment that I really became a Satanist. 423 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:33,934 Let's shift gears a little bit. 424 00:23:34,282 --> 00:23:35,718 Tell me about Oklahoma. 425 00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:39,853 Okay, so Oklahoma had a Ten Commandments monument 426 00:23:40,027 --> 00:23:41,289 on government property. 427 00:23:41,985 --> 00:23:44,423 In my view, it's clearly making a religious statement 428 00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:47,164 by doing that, and the Satanic Temple says 429 00:23:47,338 --> 00:23:49,138 if you're gonna put your giant piece of marble 430 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:51,821 that says, "Christianity, Christianity, Christianity", 431 00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:55,216 then you also need to put up our gigantic monument 432 00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:56,565 to Satanism. 433 00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:02,179 Just imagine it, a statue of Satan right here 434 00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,617 next to the Ten Commandments at the State Capitol. 435 00:24:04,791 --> 00:24:07,968 The statue will be a symbol of Satan as a goat. 436 00:24:08,142 --> 00:24:09,360 I want to show you 437 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:11,600 what this is gonna look like. Take a look here. 438 00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:14,278 It's a seven-foot-tall goat-headed demon 439 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,368 sitting on a throne with two children next to it. 440 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:24,343 They submitted designs, 441 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,377 and they hope construction will start soon. 442 00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,823 If we're gonna do this, we're gonna do it right. 443 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,948 This is not something that can be easily ripped down. 444 00:24:32,122 --> 00:24:33,602 Like, we're gonna do this in bronze. 445 00:24:33,776 --> 00:24:35,216 We're gonna make something beautiful. 446 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:36,739 We're gonna make something permanent. 447 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,607 So we decided to raise money 448 00:24:38,781 --> 00:24:42,263 to make a gigantic Satanic statue. 449 00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:45,875 And I have a friend who studied traditional sculpting, 450 00:24:46,049 --> 00:24:48,443 so I called him up, told him the deal. 451 00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:51,054 He said, "Are you serious?" 452 00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:53,535 and I said, "Yes, I am", and he said... 453 00:24:54,841 --> 00:24:56,103 "I'm going to clear 454 00:24:56,277 --> 00:24:57,931 the next six months of my schedule." 455 00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:00,499 * There's a call Comes ringing * 456 00:25:00,673 --> 00:25:02,588 * O'er the restless wave * 457 00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:07,027 * Send the light Send the light * 458 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:11,901 * There are souls to rescue There are souls to save * 459 00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:16,079 * Send the light Send the light * 460 00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:18,473 - * Send the light * - * Send the light * 461 00:25:18,647 --> 00:25:20,823 * The blessed gospel light * 462 00:25:20,997 --> 00:25:23,130 - * Let it shine * - * Let it shine * 463 00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:25,304 - * From shore to shore * - * From shore to shore * 464 00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,308 - * Send the light * - * Send the light * 465 00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:29,832 * The blessed gospel light * 466 00:25:30,006 --> 00:25:31,834 - * Let it shine * - * Let it shine * 467 00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:34,184 - * Forevermore... * - * Forevermore... * 468 00:25:34,358 --> 00:25:37,057 I was envisioning, you know, goat head, 469 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,233 I mean, everything you associate with Satanism. 470 00:25:39,407 --> 00:25:41,191 Lucien became involved at that point 471 00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,803 and kind of codified it into an actual Baphomet. 472 00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:47,241 The Baphomet image was taken 473 00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:50,679 from a 19th century drawing of the sabbatic goat. 474 00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:54,074 I originally wanted bat wings, 475 00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:55,768 but a Baphomet does not have bat wings. 476 00:25:55,902 --> 00:25:57,294 It has angel wings. 477 00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:02,735 We decided that Iggy Pop would be the torso. 478 00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:07,348 And a real Baphomet traditionally has breasts, 479 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:09,437 but because we wanted to get this 480 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:10,873 in front of the State Capitol, 481 00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:12,764 we were worried that the breasts would hinder us 482 00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:13,789 from doing that. 483 00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:16,705 One of the things that I insisted upon 484 00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:20,840 was having two children... looking up. 485 00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:26,454 Having little kids around it, that's just ridiculous. 486 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:28,891 Are we making a mockery of everything 487 00:26:29,065 --> 00:26:30,893 with regard to Christianity in this society? 488 00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:32,503 You may not like the Satanists. 489 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:34,288 Guess what? That doesn't matter. 490 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:36,832 Do you? Do you? - Everybody is equal. 491 00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,696 I don't care. All religions are the same to me. 492 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:40,575 So you think it's perfectly fine to put a satanic 493 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,185 whatever message they're gonna have up there? 494 00:26:42,209 --> 00:26:43,534 How crazy is it? - Yes. I mean... You believe 495 00:26:43,558 --> 00:26:44,918 in an invisible man in the sky too. 496 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,276 You call him Satan, you call him God. I don't care. 497 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,300 Whatever I believe in... 498 00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:49,540 I had followed the Satanic Temple 499 00:26:49,564 --> 00:26:50,957 in the news when they had announced 500 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:52,761 that they were making the Baphomet statue. 501 00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:55,048 I thought it was genuinely inspired. 502 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:56,963 I thought it was hilarious. 503 00:26:57,137 --> 00:26:59,400 And I was completely astounded. 504 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,620 These guys are super cool. These are my people. 505 00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:03,491 This is the best thing I've ever seen. 506 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:06,059 I was like, "Holy shit." - I want to be a part of this. 507 00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:11,151 I think I donated 25 dollars, 508 00:27:11,325 --> 00:27:13,588 and then I wrote them and said, "If you're ever in L.A. 509 00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:15,155 and you need some help, hit me up." 510 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:16,915 I think you're an incredible organization, 511 00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:18,506 and I would really like to be involved. 512 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:26,446 From a constitutional law perspective, 513 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:28,100 I'm really interested in the Satanic Temple 514 00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:30,474 because it is basically making these public bodies 515 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:34,478 confront the real implications of their decisions 516 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,350 to allow religion into the public square. 517 00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:38,154 The government can't say, "You're a good religion. 518 00:27:38,178 --> 00:27:39,178 You're a bad religion." 519 00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,026 What? - That's why you should not have 520 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:42,288 religious artifacts on public property. 521 00:27:42,312 --> 00:27:44,053 Their figurehead is an Antichrist. 522 00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,827 They should be able to put the statue up, 523 00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:48,101 and then they should be shot right next to it, 524 00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:50,514 and then we take it down. - So violence is the way 525 00:27:50,538 --> 00:27:52,298 of dealing with it? - Yes. You're advocating 526 00:27:52,322 --> 00:27:54,242 violence against people with religious beliefs... 527 00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:58,372 The Baphomet monument is far more 528 00:27:58,546 --> 00:28:02,419 than simply some middle finger to the evangelical right. 529 00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:06,032 Really... we were... 530 00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:09,339 we were giving the Oklahoma government a civics lesson. 531 00:28:10,514 --> 00:28:12,212 It must be removed. 532 00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:14,736 That is the order on the Ten Commandments monument 533 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:17,696 outside the State Capitol in a seven-to-two vote 534 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,219 by the Oklahoma Supreme Court. 535 00:28:19,523 --> 00:28:20,805 Well, a group of Satanists 536 00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:22,309 is tonight claiming victory. 537 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,225 Are you still pushing to have the goat with the horns 538 00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:27,227 and so on put up on the State Capitol grounds? 539 00:28:28,881 --> 00:28:30,752 No, we don't want our monument there 540 00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:32,754 without the Ten Commandments there. Um, 541 00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:35,583 the point all along was that it would complement 542 00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:37,037 and contrast the Ten Commandments 543 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:40,414 and reaffirm that we live in a pluralistic nation 544 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:43,504 that respects diversity and religious liberty. 545 00:28:56,996 --> 00:29:01,000 I joined this group because I saw the TST website, 546 00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:03,393 and it was something that spoke to me. 547 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,339 Thank you. - When people wanted 548 00:29:16,363 --> 00:29:18,974 to start identifying with the Satanic Temple, 549 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,498 there was no turning back on that. 550 00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:23,109 People would write us messages 551 00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:24,643 and were wanting to get involved... 552 00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:28,854 so we decided to allow people to apply 553 00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:30,812 to run a chapter in their own city. 554 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:35,556 I decided to launch a chapter in Detroit. 555 00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:38,951 Response was incredible. It was huge. 556 00:29:40,169 --> 00:29:42,084 Hail Satan. Hail Satan. 557 00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:46,618 I don't know if I was surprised 558 00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:48,101 that people wanted to get involved. 559 00:29:48,743 --> 00:29:51,103 I was surprised at how many people wanted to get involved. 560 00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:55,552 All right, friends. Thanks for coming. 561 00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:57,621 Um, I want to tell you guys to start with 562 00:29:58,405 --> 00:30:00,711 that we have three people that we want to make 563 00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:05,455 new members today. Nick, and Dell, and Erin. 564 00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,067 We have a lot of work to do, 565 00:30:08,545 --> 00:30:11,331 and I think Christian privilege is a huge problem in our country 566 00:30:11,505 --> 00:30:14,595 because it dictates our laws. It dictates everything we do, 567 00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:17,032 what bathroom I can use in some states. 568 00:30:17,206 --> 00:30:19,513 Hail Satan. - Hail Satan. 569 00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:27,042 I've just always been an extremely curious person. 570 00:30:27,216 --> 00:30:28,827 And I used to spend a lot of time 571 00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:31,612 at the bookstore alone because I was a huge loser. 572 00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:33,744 'Cause I don't like to be involved in groups. 573 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,311 I'm not a very social person. 574 00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:37,357 Most of my interactions are online. 575 00:30:37,531 --> 00:30:40,316 It wasn't until I took that step to try to meet 576 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:44,668 these people, that's where it really all came together, 577 00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:46,975 and I was terrified that I was just gonna 578 00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:48,629 meet a bunch of people that were like, 579 00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,085 "All right, so we're gonna meet up at the church. 580 00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:51,371 We'll hand out spray paint cans, 581 00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:53,852 and we'll kick over some graves." And... 582 00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:56,637 everyone was amazing. 583 00:30:56,811 --> 00:30:57,856 I came from a very, 584 00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,162 like, conservatively religious background. 585 00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:04,688 I was very much a devout Christian growing up. 586 00:31:05,124 --> 00:31:06,690 You could almost say a zealot. 587 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,779 I've taught Bible school in our church. 588 00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,738 I've taught Sunday school in our church, 589 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:14,698 and at the age of 13, I was called to be a deacon. 590 00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:17,179 The day that I graduated confirmation, 591 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:18,789 you know, we're sitting in church, 592 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:20,487 and, you know, we're supposed to feel 593 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,011 the holy spirit come in, and I'm just like... 594 00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:27,928 ...okay. 595 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,149 When I was in sixth grade, 596 00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:33,892 we went on a field trip to see the film Gandhi. 597 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,721 The next day our history teacher said, 598 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,376 "You realize that in spite of all these great things 599 00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:43,162 that he did for his countrymen and everything like that, 600 00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:46,382 because he wasn't a Christian, he went to hell", 601 00:31:46,992 --> 00:31:48,950 and I'm like, "Really?" 602 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:53,346 This guy almost invented the idea of nonviolent protest, 603 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:55,826 but he's not a Christian, so he went to hell. 604 00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:59,352 I'm like, "Is that the moral to this story? Really? 605 00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:01,180 I call bullshit!" 606 00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,096 This thing inside me was just, like... 607 00:32:05,314 --> 00:32:08,187 I want to be the opposite of what these people are. 608 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:13,018 That's when I started, like, looking for Satan anywhere. 609 00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:16,760 Hail Satan. - Hail Satan. 610 00:32:22,723 --> 00:32:24,483 When I became a member of the Satanic Temple, 611 00:32:24,507 --> 00:32:26,770 when I fully embraced who I was as a Satanist, 612 00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:28,424 uh, it was my coming home. 613 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:31,079 This is crazy. Isn't this crazy? 614 00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:34,583 You all, like, came from all over the place. 615 00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:37,886 Yeah. - Yeah. 616 00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:43,135 Invoking Satan is invoking the struggle for justice 617 00:32:43,309 --> 00:32:45,572 and equality for everyone. 618 00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:47,878 Invoking Satan is the firm denial 619 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:49,576 that only one point of view is correct. 620 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:51,510 A willingness to fight for all points of view 621 00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,449 in accordance with reason is imperative. 622 00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:54,841 Invoking Satan 623 00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,105 is to reach out without reservation 624 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:58,759 and eat from the tree of knowledge 625 00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:01,501 rather than be subjected to the whims of blind faith. 626 00:33:01,936 --> 00:33:03,807 We will no longer choose apathy over action 627 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,505 and perpetuate our own oppression. 628 00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:08,029 Ave Satanas. 629 00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:09,784 Ave Satanas. - Ave Satanas. 630 00:33:09,944 --> 00:33:12,120 Hail Satan! 631 00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:14,993 Oh, those are cute. 632 00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:19,475 Satanism is looking out for the Other 633 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,434 because we are the Other. 634 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:29,224 In three years, we have gone from three people to 50.000. 635 00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:35,317 As we bring the Satanic revolution to the world, 636 00:33:35,491 --> 00:33:40,453 we do indeed invoke Satan and all that he means to us. 637 00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:44,370 Join us in reciting, ave Satanas! 638 00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:46,633 Ave Satanas! 639 00:33:46,807 --> 00:33:50,158 Hail Satan! - Hail Satan! 640 00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:54,119 Ave Satanas! - Ave Satanas! 641 00:33:54,293 --> 00:33:57,818 Hail Satan! - Hail Satan! 642 00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:12,702 I was just a member, a card-carrying member, 643 00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:15,140 and I wanted to get more involved, 644 00:34:15,314 --> 00:34:16,924 but I had no real aspirations to be... 645 00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:20,536 you know, I don't know. I just wanted to do something. 646 00:34:21,624 --> 00:34:24,627 In the capital of Phoenix, there were these invocations 647 00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:27,021 or prayers before city council meetings. 648 00:34:27,369 --> 00:34:30,111 So please, if you can, stand for the invocation. 649 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:33,767 It's usually a hundred percent Christian, 650 00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:36,813 and then every now and then they'll throw another group in 651 00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:38,511 to celebrate how diverse they are. 652 00:34:39,294 --> 00:34:41,403 I was a nobody. I was kind of, like, you know, 653 00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:43,646 just in this organization as a bystander, 654 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:46,040 commenting and supporting online, 655 00:34:46,258 --> 00:34:49,130 and then I was very interested in helping out 656 00:34:49,304 --> 00:34:51,089 in whatever capacity that I could. 657 00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:53,874 Michelle was a radio personality at the time. 658 00:34:54,048 --> 00:34:56,616 I was an attorney, and the first thing we did 659 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:57,790 was we wrote an email 660 00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,750 to the city clerk in Phoenix and said, 661 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:01,510 "Hey, we see you have this invocation program 662 00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:03,534 on a rotating basis. We'd like to be on that list." 663 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:04,943 We got a response email that said, 664 00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:06,016 "Okay, here's your date." 665 00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:09,107 A lot of people talking about the Satanic Temple 666 00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:11,674 in Tucson, set to give an invocation 667 00:35:11,848 --> 00:35:13,676 at the Phoenix city council meeting 668 00:35:13,937 --> 00:35:14,982 coming up next month. 669 00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:18,464 "Let us demand that individuals be judged 670 00:35:18,638 --> 00:35:19,987 for their concrete actions." 671 00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:21,892 That is just part of the prayer 672 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,339 that members of the Satanic Temple plan to read 673 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:26,044 at the Phoenix city council meeting. 674 00:35:26,211 --> 00:35:27,536 People that were interviewing us 675 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,952 were bringing holy water with them. 676 00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:31,129 Uh, it was... it was complete insanity, 677 00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:33,019 and there came a point where Michelle and I were like, 678 00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,043 "What have we done?" 679 00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:35,481 You wouldn't let ISIS come in 680 00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:37,255 and give a prayer at the city of Phoenix. 681 00:35:37,309 --> 00:35:38,875 Are you comparing these guys to ISIS? 682 00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:41,704 Well, ISIS is evil. What is Satan? 683 00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:44,248 I'd like to make a motion to change the practice 684 00:35:44,272 --> 00:35:45,360 relating to invocations 685 00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:47,185 and those chosen to give the invocation 686 00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:48,972 be residents of the city of Phoenix. 687 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:50,191 That's okay to do that. 688 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:52,454 That's constitutional to change it, 689 00:35:52,933 --> 00:35:53,934 but what we couldn't do 690 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,937 is apply it retroactively in this case. 691 00:35:57,242 --> 00:36:00,027 That would be an unconstitutional suppression 692 00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:03,073 of a minority religious viewpoint, 693 00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:05,902 which is in contravention of the First Amendment 694 00:36:06,076 --> 00:36:07,426 of the United States Constitution. 695 00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:10,709 We knew that there were gonna be meetings, 696 00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,300 but we decided that, uh, 697 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:14,125 it was probably dangerous for us to go. 698 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:15,975 I mean, people were threatening to murder us. 699 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,606 Uh, people were threatening to shoot us 700 00:36:17,871 --> 00:36:20,308 on the way up the steps, um, and it wasn't worth it, 701 00:36:20,482 --> 00:36:24,573 and it was streaming live, so we watched in horror. 702 00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:27,707 We cannot stand by while a hate group 703 00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:29,926 stands up and gives your invocation. 704 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,146 It's our goal to shut down their agenda, 705 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,062 which is to bring death and destruction over Phoenix. 706 00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:37,934 We take a Pledge of Allegiance. It's one nation under God. 707 00:36:38,108 --> 00:36:39,327 Yes. - Yes. 708 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,721 That's not out there by mistake. 709 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,857 How many people actually have a dollar bill 710 00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:51,078 or a piece of money in their wallet or their pocket? 711 00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:56,431 I do believe it says, "In God We Trust." 712 00:36:56,605 --> 00:36:57,824 Yes! - Yes! 713 00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:03,133 So are we invoking still the blessings of God 714 00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:04,961 on our state and our city? 715 00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:09,314 Are we invoking the curses of the deity spoken of 716 00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:11,011 that they serve as Satan? 717 00:37:11,185 --> 00:37:13,492 There are too many curses on our land, 718 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:15,581 and we don't need another curse. 719 00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:18,714 Do we want God in this room, or don't we? 720 00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:21,239 Don't mock God. 721 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:23,545 We want to lift up the name of Jesus. 722 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,319 There is no other name in heaven on earth 723 00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:28,463 whereby a man must be saved in the name of Jesus Christ. 724 00:37:28,637 --> 00:37:31,423 Let's get that straight. Make no mistake about it. 725 00:37:31,597 --> 00:37:33,425 Jesus is the way. 726 00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:35,427 Please, as briefly as possible. 727 00:37:35,601 --> 00:37:37,081 We have a lot of cards to get through. 728 00:37:37,603 --> 00:37:38,995 In a matter of one week, 729 00:37:39,169 --> 00:37:41,171 a decades-old tradition of public prayer 730 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:44,174 before the city of Phoenix council meetings was history. 731 00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:47,003 In its place, a moment of silent public prayer. 732 00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:49,528 It's kind of shocking that they would do away 733 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:50,964 with a 60-year tradition 734 00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:53,227 for something that was so harmless. 735 00:37:54,184 --> 00:37:56,274 The more hate that was thrown at us, 736 00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:57,884 the more important this seemed 737 00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,365 because it seemed like such a deeper issue 738 00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:02,139 than a two-minute speech, where I'm like, 739 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,325 "Is this how everyone that's different is treated?" 740 00:38:05,065 --> 00:38:07,197 And, you know, 741 00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:09,765 it's not something that I'd faced in my own life. 742 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,028 For me to get this from my religion, 743 00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:16,294 a minority religion, um, it was pretty eye-opening, 744 00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,121 and that's what made me realize 745 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:20,602 how absolutely important this is. 746 00:38:29,698 --> 00:38:30,698 Thank you. 747 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,080 The bill today allowing a monument 748 00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:45,104 of the Ten Commandments 749 00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:46,951 to be placed at the State Capitol 750 00:38:47,194 --> 00:38:48,935 was filed by Senator Jason Rapert. 751 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,305 State Senator Jason Rapert says the monument 752 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,243 isn't meant to be a religious statement, 753 00:38:53,461 --> 00:38:54,854 rather a testament to what he calls 754 00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:57,160 the historical moral foundation of law. 755 00:38:57,335 --> 00:39:01,034 These references are woven into the fabric of our society. 756 00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:02,775 We're one nation under God. 757 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,386 Our national motto is in God We Trust. 758 00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:08,433 It's time in our country to remind ourselves of, 759 00:39:08,607 --> 00:39:10,522 really, those things that were important to us, 760 00:39:10,696 --> 00:39:12,001 that were universal to us. 761 00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:13,495 Senator Rapert, you know, again... 762 00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:15,918 I'm a taxpaying member of the state of Arkansas, 763 00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:17,808 and those are my Capitol grounds, 764 00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:19,008 and I don't want that there. 765 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:24,623 I was a... I would say a zesty little atheist, 766 00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:26,755 and I happened to go 767 00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:29,367 to the American Atheist rally in Memphis. 768 00:39:30,498 --> 00:39:31,498 One of the presenters 769 00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:33,390 is a gentleman named Lucien Greaves. 770 00:39:33,414 --> 00:39:35,808 You may be aware of our monument campaign 771 00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:36,982 in Oklahoma. 772 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,483 He proceeds to give an entire presentation 773 00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:41,006 of how they took a Ten Commandments monument down 774 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:42,030 in Oklahoma... 775 00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:45,470 and my immediate thought was, "I've got to talk to this guy." 776 00:39:46,862 --> 00:39:49,343 Our Lady Victory. - Pray for us. 777 00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,869 Monuments to both the Ten Commandments 778 00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,524 and Satan could soon find a home on the grounds 779 00:39:56,698 --> 00:39:58,483 near the Arkansas State Capitol. 780 00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:00,297 Today the subcommittee of the Capitol Arts 781 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,008 and Grounds Commissions held meetings 782 00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:04,271 to review the proposed monuments. 783 00:40:04,445 --> 00:40:06,491 The American History and Heritage Foundation 784 00:40:06,665 --> 00:40:08,493 wants a Ten Commandments monument, 785 00:40:08,667 --> 00:40:11,409 and the Satanic Temple wants a statue of Baphomet. 786 00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,063 I pledge allegiance to the Flag 787 00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:16,326 of the United States of America 788 00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:19,155 and to the Republic for which it stands, 789 00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:21,331 one nation, under God, 790 00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:24,813 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 791 00:40:25,335 --> 00:40:28,600 Thank you. And Mr. Lucien Graves is here. 792 00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:30,602 Did I pronounce that... Graves, or... 793 00:40:30,819 --> 00:40:32,952 Greaves. - Greaves, I apologize. 794 00:40:33,126 --> 00:40:36,825 I want to get that right too, but they have proposed to place 795 00:40:36,999 --> 00:40:41,134 a statue of Baphomet on the Capitol grounds. 796 00:40:41,743 --> 00:40:45,660 Here's a... here's a more recent picture of our monument, uh, 797 00:40:45,834 --> 00:40:48,489 it stands at eight feet, six inches in height, 798 00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:51,231 a width at the base of the throne 799 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:53,451 of 37 and a quarter inches. 800 00:40:53,842 --> 00:40:55,627 From the back of the throne to the front 801 00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:57,933 it's 46 and a half inches, 802 00:40:58,281 --> 00:41:01,284 and the widest point is at the tips of the wings, 803 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:03,852 which is 55 and a half inches in width. 804 00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:10,424 If you have any questions? 805 00:41:11,425 --> 00:41:15,995 What are you memorializing, or what is your monument to? 806 00:41:16,778 --> 00:41:19,477 Well, we think that our monument commemorates 807 00:41:19,651 --> 00:41:21,261 what makes America great, 808 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,656 and in our case, we believe that that's religious liberty. 809 00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,110 And you mentioned earlier 810 00:41:26,527 --> 00:41:28,070 that if the Ten Commandments monument doesn't go up, 811 00:41:28,094 --> 00:41:30,183 then you would withdraw this request? 812 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:32,272 Correct. What we're trying to avoid 813 00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:35,057 is the appearance of one religious viewpoint, 814 00:41:35,362 --> 00:41:37,756 uh, apparently co-opting the power 815 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:40,149 and the authority of a government institution. 816 00:41:40,585 --> 00:41:42,630 We feel that that is unconstitutional. 817 00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:44,893 And just as none of the Ten Commandments 818 00:41:45,067 --> 00:41:47,156 are cited within the Constitution 819 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,855 or... or in any of your state laws, 820 00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:55,556 um, the principle of this kind of religious equality 821 00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:57,123 and government viewpoint neutrality 822 00:41:57,297 --> 00:41:59,560 is enshrined in the Constitution. 823 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:06,393 American jurisprudence based a lot of our initial laws 824 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,743 on the Ten Commandments. You will find this 825 00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:10,919 in the writings of our Founding Fathers. 826 00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:16,678 For most historians, the question, 827 00:42:16,882 --> 00:42:18,602 "Was America founded as a Christian nation?" 828 00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:20,494 is fairly straightforward to answer. 829 00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:22,714 The record seems quite clear that we were not. 830 00:42:23,932 --> 00:42:26,674 You can look at the U.S. Constitution. 831 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,920 And when George Washington 832 00:42:28,981 --> 00:42:30,548 signed that document, 833 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:34,900 he laid the foundation for our great democracy. 834 00:42:35,074 --> 00:42:40,166 G... gee, that's wonderful. 835 00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:42,516 The only mentions of religion or God 836 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:43,690 in the Constitution, 837 00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:47,216 uh, in fact, are ones that keep religion away from the state. 838 00:42:47,477 --> 00:42:49,281 And if you look at the 1950s, you can see a lot 839 00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,656 of the trappings that Americans point to today 840 00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,353 as proof that their nation 841 00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:55,747 is a Christian nation were invented. 842 00:42:55,921 --> 00:42:57,601 Many people say, well, what is hell? 843 00:42:57,836 --> 00:43:00,236 Hell is separation from God... - We see in the 1950s 844 00:43:00,316 --> 00:43:03,145 the origins of what we might term an evangelical lobby. 845 00:43:03,319 --> 00:43:05,191 Jesus demanded repentance. 846 00:43:05,365 --> 00:43:06,845 Billy Graham tells Americans 847 00:43:07,019 --> 00:43:09,717 that communism is directed by Satan. 848 00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:12,111 We thought we could get along without God. 849 00:43:12,285 --> 00:43:14,722 We thought we could get along without a moral standard. 850 00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:17,246 We thought we could get along without the Ten Commandments 851 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:18,726 and the Sermon on the Mount, 852 00:43:19,292 --> 00:43:21,860 and we're beginning to wake up to the fact that we can't! 853 00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:27,039 Jesus said, "Except ye repent, ye shall likewise perish." 854 00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:28,213 Repent! 855 00:43:34,263 --> 00:43:35,543 The country's just learned 856 00:43:36,004 --> 00:43:37,644 that the Soviet Union has the atomic bomb, 857 00:43:37,745 --> 00:43:39,465 and he warns them that Armageddon is coming. 858 00:43:40,182 --> 00:43:42,663 Unless the nation rediscovers its religious roots, 859 00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:43,882 it'll be destroyed. 860 00:43:46,058 --> 00:43:48,147 As America went to war with the godless communists 861 00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:49,321 of the Soviet Union, 862 00:43:49,931 --> 00:43:51,716 Americans discovered God themselves. 863 00:43:53,282 --> 00:43:55,023 And so this is a remarkable moment 864 00:43:55,458 --> 00:43:57,306 when the nation really does start to think of itself 865 00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:58,330 as Christian. 866 00:43:59,158 --> 00:44:00,812 In just the span of a few years, 867 00:44:01,029 --> 00:44:02,949 "Under God" is added to the Pledge of Allegiance, 868 00:44:03,075 --> 00:44:05,207 "In God We Trust" is placed on paper currency 869 00:44:05,381 --> 00:44:06,861 and becomes the nation's motto. 870 00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,777 For most Americans, these ceremonies 871 00:44:09,951 --> 00:44:12,127 and slogans mattered more than anything 872 00:44:12,301 --> 00:44:14,173 that was literally written in the Constitution 873 00:44:14,347 --> 00:44:16,628 because they were the things they said day in and day out. 874 00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:19,308 Their kids said the Pledge. They saw it on their money. 875 00:44:19,918 --> 00:44:21,484 It was all over their world. 876 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:24,096 It really becomes an integral part 877 00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:26,011 of who Americans think they are. 878 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,798 We are what we believe. 879 00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:36,559 Victory today for the placement 880 00:44:36,586 --> 00:44:38,260 of a Satanic monument on State Capitol grounds. 881 00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:40,678 That's right. This proposal is deemed sufficient 882 00:44:40,852 --> 00:44:42,680 by the Capitol Arts and Grounds Commission, 883 00:44:42,854 --> 00:44:45,160 but now comes the hurdle of getting the statue 884 00:44:45,334 --> 00:44:46,988 approved by the legislature. 885 00:44:48,555 --> 00:44:52,690 It will be a very cold, cold day in the pits of hell 886 00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:56,302 before you'll ever see a statue from the Satanic Temple 887 00:44:56,476 --> 00:45:00,219 or some other group like that at the Arkansas Capitol. 888 00:45:01,133 --> 00:45:03,613 For Greaves, it's a monumental task ahead, 889 00:45:03,788 --> 00:45:04,788 stirring up what could be 890 00:45:05,311 --> 00:45:06,751 a controversy of biblical proportions 891 00:45:06,878 --> 00:45:08,749 on the Arkansas State Capitol grounds. 892 00:45:10,577 --> 00:45:12,076 Do you think that most people think 893 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,599 you're kidding or that most people think 894 00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:14,623 you're evil? 895 00:45:15,495 --> 00:45:16,775 You know, it's really interesting 896 00:45:17,105 --> 00:45:19,412 because people who don't understand the value 897 00:45:19,586 --> 00:45:21,544 and concepts of Satanism are so ingrained 898 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,025 in this Judeo-Christian concept of good and evil. 899 00:45:24,373 --> 00:45:27,115 Of course, why would anybody claim to embrace evil? 900 00:45:27,768 --> 00:45:28,813 But we're not doing that. 901 00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:34,035 Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, 902 00:45:34,209 --> 00:45:36,342 now and at the hour of our death, amen. 903 00:45:38,126 --> 00:45:39,190 The bagpipes had just started 904 00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:40,214 playing once again. 905 00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:42,799 This is all happening because the newly-formed 906 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:45,655 After School Satan Club is holding an open house. 907 00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:48,310 Organizers say the After School Satan Club 908 00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:51,052 is designed to counter after-school Christian clubs 909 00:45:51,226 --> 00:45:53,315 holding meetings inside public schools. 910 00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:55,335 The Satanic Temple 911 00:45:55,709 --> 00:45:56,709 says that the club is meant to broaden 912 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:57,885 the mindset of students 913 00:45:58,233 --> 00:45:59,713 through critical thinking skills. 914 00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:06,938 You know, I understand you guys don't want to follow 915 00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:08,766 the status quo of religion. That's fine. 916 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:10,220 What you guys do on your own time 917 00:46:10,332 --> 00:46:11,812 is your own business. - Mm-hmm. 918 00:46:11,943 --> 00:46:13,485 If you really just want to help the community, 919 00:46:13,509 --> 00:46:14,573 then go help the community. - We can help 920 00:46:14,597 --> 00:46:15,816 the community as Satanists. 921 00:46:16,469 --> 00:46:18,273 How are you guys gonna help the community as Satanists? 922 00:46:18,297 --> 00:46:19,840 We have been. - When people already have... 923 00:46:19,864 --> 00:46:21,082 Around the country. 924 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,476 We are providing an alternate viewpoint, 925 00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:25,695 an opportunity for kids to have an understanding 926 00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:27,848 that there is different ways of looking at the world. 927 00:46:27,872 --> 00:46:29,612 That's fine. You're not their parents. 928 00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:31,587 Why don't you go do this at your kids' school? 929 00:46:31,701 --> 00:46:33,878 Please, please... - You guys are horrible people. 930 00:46:34,052 --> 00:46:36,358 You have scared an entire school district. 931 00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:38,230 You have frightened an entire community. 932 00:46:38,404 --> 00:46:40,449 I hope that falls in line with your guise 933 00:46:40,623 --> 00:46:42,756 of enlightenment and prosperity. 934 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:44,714 Time to go, lady. - Bunch of assholes. 935 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,108 Hey, watch your language with the kids. 936 00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:51,329 Looking good. 937 00:46:51,983 --> 00:46:53,903 I was gonna say. 938 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,471 When people ask what kind of child 939 00:47:02,645 --> 00:47:05,344 would want to be involved in a club like this, 940 00:47:05,779 --> 00:47:08,390 the answer is, I was that kind of child. 941 00:47:14,701 --> 00:47:18,226 Devil Worship. Exposing Satan's Underground. 942 00:47:21,447 --> 00:47:24,058 Whether a Satan exists is a matter of belief, 943 00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:26,365 but we are certain that Satanism exists. 944 00:47:26,713 --> 00:47:28,149 To some it's a religion. 945 00:47:28,584 --> 00:47:32,066 To others it's the practice of evil in the Devil's name. 946 00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:34,634 It exists, and it's flourishing. 947 00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:37,627 You can't really fully understand 948 00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,465 the Satanic Temple if you don't understand 949 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,729 the Satanic Panic of the 1980s and '90s. 950 00:47:43,991 --> 00:47:49,083 The United States was caught up by anti-Satanist hysterics. 951 00:47:49,388 --> 00:47:52,826 Baby killings, ritualistic rape, cannibalism. 952 00:47:53,783 --> 00:47:55,481 I was a young child 953 00:47:56,177 --> 00:47:58,658 seeing these claims about satanic cults, 954 00:47:58,832 --> 00:48:01,922 a criminal network, abusing babies, 955 00:48:02,096 --> 00:48:03,881 and driving children to Satanism. 956 00:48:05,186 --> 00:48:07,580 Unsuspecting young people are drawn to the occult 957 00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:09,625 by seemingly harmless pleasures. 958 00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:13,325 They start by participating in fantasy role-playing games 959 00:48:13,499 --> 00:48:15,893 like Dungeons & Dragons. 960 00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:19,418 Okay, you enter a very small room, 961 00:48:20,201 --> 00:48:23,117 and there's a large black coffin right in the center. 962 00:48:23,726 --> 00:48:24,989 The gates shut behind you. 963 00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:29,341 As a kid in the '80s, I loved Dungeons & Dragons... 964 00:48:30,472 --> 00:48:33,301 and I played Dungeons & Dragons constantly, 965 00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:38,959 and several of my friends' mothers forbade them 966 00:48:39,612 --> 00:48:42,745 from hanging out with me. That was, like... 967 00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:46,314 you know, my childhood brush with the Satanic Panic. 968 00:48:46,619 --> 00:48:49,274 Millions enjoy D&D, as the game is called, 969 00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:51,406 but we don't really know how many find 970 00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:54,540 unsuspected dragons in their psychic dungeons. 971 00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,499 How, then, do we deal with our demons? 972 00:48:59,545 --> 00:49:01,329 And then I was a young teenage metalhead. 973 00:49:06,073 --> 00:49:08,510 I loved heavy metal and Dungeons & Dragons, 974 00:49:08,684 --> 00:49:10,773 which meant that there was, like, a social campaign 975 00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:12,645 against everything I loved. 976 00:49:13,472 --> 00:49:15,300 If one or more of these warning signs 977 00:49:15,517 --> 00:49:18,346 are evident, you should look further for ritual items 978 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,349 such as a pentagram or other satanic symbols. 979 00:49:21,741 --> 00:49:23,351 Experts advise you contact 980 00:49:23,525 --> 00:49:25,963 your local law enforcement agency at once. 981 00:49:27,921 --> 00:49:29,444 The church called it satanic, 982 00:49:29,749 --> 00:49:31,838 and, you know, I didn't mind antagonizing them, 983 00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:33,796 so I just embraced some of these symbols 984 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:36,277 and ideas, you know, but what it really was, 985 00:49:36,451 --> 00:49:38,845 is, like, these were the things that made my life great. 986 00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:42,327 D&D was awesome. I'd play D&D all night, 987 00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:45,591 whole weekends, whole weeks at a time sometimes, 988 00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:47,245 when I could, you know? 989 00:49:47,419 --> 00:49:48,942 And then, you know, heavy metal shows 990 00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:51,466 is what my life was built around in my teens. 991 00:49:51,945 --> 00:49:53,816 Chris Edmonds is a Detroit disc jockey 992 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,645 whose specialty is finding secret recorded messages 993 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:58,691 by playing music in reverse. 994 00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:02,042 A lot of people hear the phrase, "My sweet Satan." 995 00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:04,871 * Here's to my sweet Satan * 996 00:50:05,045 --> 00:50:06,699 You hear it? - My sweet Satan. 997 00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:08,414 With Dungeons & Dragons 998 00:50:08,483 --> 00:50:10,485 and heavy metal music, 999 00:50:10,964 --> 00:50:13,575 parents were like, "Well, those are the doorways 1000 00:50:13,749 --> 00:50:16,709 to the Devil", and it's like... In hindsight it's like, 1001 00:50:17,318 --> 00:50:19,233 "Yeah, maybe you're right." 1002 00:50:21,192 --> 00:50:24,325 You'll note on our model the pentagram on the right 1003 00:50:24,499 --> 00:50:26,327 and the left side of the upper chest. 1004 00:50:26,501 --> 00:50:29,809 Today people laugh about the moral panic 1005 00:50:29,983 --> 00:50:32,551 surrounding things like Dungeons & Dragons 1006 00:50:32,725 --> 00:50:36,729 or backwards masking in music, but the fact of the matter is 1007 00:50:36,903 --> 00:50:39,558 the Satanic Panic ruined people's lives. 1008 00:50:42,865 --> 00:50:44,258 Pardon me? - Do you worship Satan 1009 00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,086 in any fashion? - Not at all. 1010 00:50:46,739 --> 00:50:49,002 People who got accused of satanic crimes 1011 00:50:49,568 --> 00:50:52,527 were not Satanists and... and innocent. 1012 00:50:53,572 --> 00:50:55,661 The thing that I think is really remarkable 1013 00:50:55,835 --> 00:50:57,445 and that everyone has to pay attention to 1014 00:50:57,837 --> 00:51:00,927 is that the Satanic Panic fantasies 1015 00:51:01,623 --> 00:51:04,496 were being indulged by Christians. 1016 00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:06,300 A Pennsylvania grand jury report 1017 00:51:06,324 --> 00:51:07,324 released last month 1018 00:51:07,934 --> 00:51:09,718 found more than 300 Catholic priests 1019 00:51:09,892 --> 00:51:13,679 sexually abused more than 1.000 children since 1947. 1020 00:51:13,853 --> 00:51:17,552 The Satanic Panic, we now know in an entirely verified 1021 00:51:17,726 --> 00:51:20,729 and publicly known way, was projection. 1022 00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:24,037 They were doing it. 1023 00:51:25,995 --> 00:51:27,084 I was playing D&D. 1024 00:51:30,478 --> 00:51:34,178 I came to see that these cults themselves 1025 00:51:34,352 --> 00:51:35,744 never actually existed, 1026 00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:38,617 that the real evil was in the witch hunt itself. 1027 00:51:38,791 --> 00:51:40,314 I know not if she be a witch. 1028 00:51:40,662 --> 00:51:43,143 No, no, no, no! You have the wrong woman. 1029 00:51:43,317 --> 00:51:45,406 In just a few minutes' time the trial 1030 00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:48,453 of Bridget Bishop, accused of witchcraft. 1031 00:51:57,897 --> 00:52:00,682 Unlike the Salem witch trials, 1032 00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:04,512 where there was some degree of introspection afterwards, 1033 00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:06,606 there was even an apology from one of the judges. 1034 00:52:06,732 --> 00:52:08,168 There was a general recognition 1035 00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:11,090 that something had gone wrong and things needed to change... 1036 00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,435 no such thing happened with the Satanic Panic... 1037 00:52:15,523 --> 00:52:18,657 and so I feel like this is very much our fight, 1038 00:52:18,918 --> 00:52:20,963 forwarding what it actually means 1039 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,138 to be a Satanist, 1040 00:52:22,922 --> 00:52:25,881 and not allowing witch hunters to define that for us. 1041 00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,058 In the coming months... 1042 00:52:48,774 --> 00:52:50,428 The Satanic Temple of West Florida 1043 00:52:50,602 --> 00:52:52,473 is collecting socks. 1044 00:52:52,647 --> 00:52:55,433 To help bring dry socks to local homeless people. 1045 00:52:55,607 --> 00:52:56,847 It doesn't matter about the name 1046 00:52:56,912 --> 00:52:58,175 or where it's coming from, 1047 00:52:58,653 --> 00:53:00,655 as long as, you know, they're doing what they can. 1048 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:09,055 Ah! We have donations. 1049 00:53:09,882 --> 00:53:11,927 Menstruatin' with Satan is a charity campaign 1050 00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:16,584 that focuses on collecting menstrual products, tampons, 1051 00:53:16,758 --> 00:53:21,067 pads, to distribute these to local shelters in our area. 1052 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,859 The Seattle chapter of the Satanic Temple 1053 00:53:31,033 --> 00:53:34,036 did a blood drive, which was really, pretty fun. 1054 00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:37,364 For drivers along the I-10 1055 00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:38,432 near Casa Grande, 1056 00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:40,173 the Satanic Temple of Arizona 1057 00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:42,784 has now adopted a two-mile stretch of roadway. 1058 00:53:42,958 --> 00:53:45,874 They even use pitchforks to pick up trash. 1059 00:53:46,092 --> 00:53:47,833 Yes, pitchforks. 1060 00:53:48,094 --> 00:53:51,793 This is a group who just wants people to know they exist, 1061 00:53:51,967 --> 00:53:55,144 they're friendly, and they also hate litter. 1062 00:53:56,494 --> 00:53:58,844 As of yesterday, uh, Seabright State Beach 1063 00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:00,324 was officially adopted 1064 00:54:00,802 --> 00:54:03,979 by the Santa Cruz chapter of the Satanic Temple. 1065 00:54:04,153 --> 00:54:05,566 The Satanic Temple will serve 1066 00:54:05,590 --> 00:54:06,808 as the caretaker for it, 1067 00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:08,375 constantly helping keep it clean 1068 00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,549 for the next year. 1069 00:54:16,949 --> 00:54:18,951 In order to help manage the expansive growth 1070 00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:20,779 that we were experiencing, 1071 00:54:20,953 --> 00:54:24,086 we decided to start the National Council. 1072 00:54:24,261 --> 00:54:26,915 We've become pretty much the de facto governing body 1073 00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:28,221 of TST. 1074 00:54:28,787 --> 00:54:30,310 We work directly as a point of contact 1075 00:54:30,484 --> 00:54:32,225 with the chapter heads of the chapter 1076 00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:35,141 to address any concerns, to help them develop ideas, 1077 00:54:35,315 --> 00:54:37,032 and to make sure that they're on the right track 1078 00:54:37,056 --> 00:54:39,493 in terms of what the overall mission of TST is. 1079 00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:41,713 That's our overarching thing to do 1080 00:54:41,887 --> 00:54:43,212 as... as part of the National Council, 1081 00:54:43,236 --> 00:54:45,020 is to work with the chapters. 1082 00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:49,634 Yeah, Kym, do you think that that's an... a reasonable pivot? 1083 00:54:49,808 --> 00:54:52,724 Like... God, I'm using corporate buzzwords. 1084 00:54:52,898 --> 00:54:54,856 Um... 1085 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,989 We just want to be conscientious. 1086 00:54:57,424 --> 00:54:58,967 We want to do as much good as we possibly can. 1087 00:54:58,991 --> 00:55:00,079 Mm-hmm. - Cool. 1088 00:55:00,688 --> 00:55:02,275 I initially imagined that the Satanic Temple 1089 00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:04,605 would have no central authority, 1090 00:55:05,214 --> 00:55:09,175 but at this point we're very keen to make sure 1091 00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:12,221 chapters don't put out the wrong message. 1092 00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:32,894 There is a prescribed set of rules 1093 00:55:33,068 --> 00:55:34,983 about how you are supposed to protest. 1094 00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:36,724 You go to your local politician. 1095 00:55:36,898 --> 00:55:38,900 You register to hold a rally 1096 00:55:39,074 --> 00:55:41,033 that is approved by the city council. 1097 00:55:42,382 --> 00:55:43,688 But I feel very strongly 1098 00:55:43,862 --> 00:55:48,170 that you can't dismantle corrupt systems of power 1099 00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:49,998 while functioning within them. 1100 00:55:53,698 --> 00:55:55,308 We don't have money. We don't have power. 1101 00:55:55,482 --> 00:55:57,310 We have relatively little voice. 1102 00:55:57,919 --> 00:56:00,357 When we go and we do a political action, 1103 00:56:00,531 --> 00:56:02,141 it's more than just a protest. 1104 00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:04,970 To us it is the celebration of our Satanic spirit. 1105 00:56:06,101 --> 00:56:08,190 It's a ritual in and of itself. 1106 00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:13,370 In much of our ritual practice we are taking 1107 00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,589 traditional symbols of what we see 1108 00:56:15,763 --> 00:56:17,983 as an oppressive religious institution 1109 00:56:18,157 --> 00:56:21,378 and destroying those symbols as a form of empowerment. 1110 00:56:23,902 --> 00:56:25,382 We often use nudity 1111 00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:28,080 because there is a sense of shame surrounding nudity 1112 00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,125 that still exists and is pervasive today. 1113 00:56:31,649 --> 00:56:33,912 If I can, I like to use bodies of men. 1114 00:56:34,129 --> 00:56:35,609 I'm very interested in staying away 1115 00:56:36,001 --> 00:56:38,121 from the fetishization of the beautiful female body. 1116 00:56:39,787 --> 00:56:42,007 We have used wine in the past, 1117 00:56:42,181 --> 00:56:44,009 the idea of kind of, like, choking on wine... 1118 00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:47,621 because the Church uses wine as a metaphor for, 1119 00:56:47,795 --> 00:56:49,144 you know, the blood of Christ, 1120 00:56:49,667 --> 00:56:52,191 but we see it as a form of oppression and control. 1121 00:56:59,024 --> 00:57:01,635 Hail Mary, full of grace. The lord is with thee. 1122 00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:04,769 Blessed art thou among women. 1123 00:57:06,814 --> 00:57:09,556 Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners... 1124 00:57:13,865 --> 00:57:15,843 If there's anything that anti-choice protesters 1125 00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:17,782 have been good at, it's the spectacle. 1126 00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,525 We wanted to create a context where we can start to understand 1127 00:57:21,699 --> 00:57:23,503 that people who are protesting outside of clinics 1128 00:57:23,527 --> 00:57:25,659 are doing something that's somewhat perverse 1129 00:57:25,833 --> 00:57:26,833 and disturbing. 1130 00:57:27,487 --> 00:57:28,986 So anyways, that was where our starting point was, 1131 00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:30,650 "How do we do this? How do we match them?" 1132 00:57:30,751 --> 00:57:33,885 And then it was a lot of brainstorming and spitballing 1133 00:57:34,059 --> 00:57:35,843 and conversation until somebody made a joke 1134 00:57:36,017 --> 00:57:37,932 about how they fetishize the fetus, 1135 00:57:38,106 --> 00:57:39,630 how it becomes this kind of object 1136 00:57:39,847 --> 00:57:43,285 that is revered in a way that seems somewhat unnatural, 1137 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,504 and, um, 1138 00:57:44,983 --> 00:57:47,899 you know, we landed on fetish babies, 1139 00:57:48,073 --> 00:57:49,378 adult babies. 1140 00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:13,010 Uh, we're talking 1141 00:58:13,533 --> 00:58:14,902 about the abstraction and fetishization 1142 00:58:14,926 --> 00:58:16,667 of the fetal image as one that speaks 1143 00:58:16,841 --> 00:58:19,496 and diminishes women's power and voice. 1144 00:58:21,323 --> 00:58:22,823 A lot of people look at performance art 1145 00:58:22,847 --> 00:58:24,936 and are a little bit confused by it, 1146 00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,286 but that's exactly how we feel 1147 00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:29,220 when we see these people in front of clinics. 1148 00:58:29,288 --> 00:58:30,507 Pray for us. 1149 00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:41,605 What the heck just happened? Why are they doing this? 1150 00:58:41,779 --> 00:58:43,302 I have no idea. - All right. 1151 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,367 They're worshiping... they're worshiping Lucifer. 1152 00:58:45,391 --> 00:58:46,831 I mean, they're... they're Satanists. 1153 00:58:49,874 --> 00:58:51,765 I don't know much about Satanism. What is it? 1154 00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:53,181 Is it the worship of Satan? 1155 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,793 No, we're actually non-theistic, 1156 00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:57,838 and modern Satanism has been recognized 1157 00:58:58,012 --> 00:58:59,840 as non-theistic for some time now. 1158 00:59:00,624 --> 00:59:03,844 So the word Satanist has nothing to do with Satan. 1159 00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:06,586 Like, if somebody wants to worship 1160 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,327 a pickle jar full of sand... 1161 00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:10,697 What did you say? - A pickle jar... 1162 00:59:10,721 --> 00:59:12,394 A pickle jar full of sand? - That's what it sounds like. 1163 00:59:12,418 --> 00:59:14,058 That's exactly what it sounds like. 1164 00:59:14,115 --> 00:59:16,770 If you don't believe in the Devil, why call yourself 1165 00:59:16,944 --> 00:59:18,816 a Satanist? - It's called Satanism 1166 00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:20,228 'cause there's nothing else to call it. 1167 00:59:20,252 --> 00:59:21,558 This wasn't pulled out of a hat. 1168 00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:23,951 This wasn't something that was made up 1169 00:59:24,125 --> 00:59:25,165 just to screw with people. 1170 00:59:25,518 --> 00:59:27,215 This is a sociopolitical counter-myth. 1171 00:59:27,433 --> 00:59:28,758 The reason I'm pressing you on this 1172 00:59:28,782 --> 00:59:30,392 is... is because I sort of know 1173 00:59:30,567 --> 00:59:32,264 a fake media story when I see one, 1174 00:59:32,438 --> 00:59:35,484 and the whole Satanism thing seems like that. 1175 00:59:37,835 --> 00:59:40,272 Who calls me from out of the pit? 1176 00:59:40,446 --> 00:59:42,666 The most important thing about modern Satanism, 1177 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,450 in my opinion, is that it has 1178 00:59:44,624 --> 00:59:46,713 a lot of symbolic impact on a global level. 1179 00:59:46,887 --> 00:59:49,368 Hail Satan! - Hail Satan. 1180 00:59:49,934 --> 00:59:51,544 No! 1181 00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:53,198 I mean, everybody knows Satan. 1182 00:59:53,459 --> 00:59:56,462 He's as famous as Santa Claus or the Grey aliens. 1183 00:59:56,636 --> 01:00:01,423 I am a part of you all. 1184 01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,687 In the literary concept John Milton wrote 1185 01:00:03,861 --> 01:00:05,732 that Satan was derived from heaven. 1186 01:00:05,906 --> 01:00:09,344 He was ousted for not stepping in line, like the rest of us, 1187 01:00:09,518 --> 01:00:10,607 and now we fight back. 1188 01:00:13,827 --> 01:00:16,395 You're not wanted here. You're not wanted here. 1189 01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:18,092 Out. Get out, Devils. 1190 01:00:18,571 --> 01:00:20,549 When I tell people that I don't actually believe 1191 01:00:20,573 --> 01:00:21,574 in a literal Satan, 1192 01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:23,881 they're almost disappointed and upset. 1193 01:00:24,185 --> 01:00:25,185 They don't like the idea 1194 01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:28,363 that we've taken a religion's villain 1195 01:00:28,537 --> 01:00:31,889 and made him sort of our champion for rebellion. 1196 01:00:33,151 --> 01:00:35,066 What it's preaching is evil. 1197 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,024 It's preaching against Christianity. 1198 01:00:37,198 --> 01:00:38,373 It's anti-Christian. 1199 01:00:38,722 --> 01:00:39,897 To say that a Satanist 1200 01:00:40,288 --> 01:00:43,683 is anti-Christian is, again, a half-truth. 1201 01:00:43,857 --> 01:00:45,903 They are anti-Christian in the sense that 1202 01:00:46,251 --> 01:00:48,340 they are post-Christian. They are... 1203 01:00:48,514 --> 01:00:50,647 They've actually left Christianity. 1204 01:00:50,908 --> 01:00:52,387 They are taking Satan with them. 1205 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,825 I like the story of, like, Abraham, 1206 01:00:54,999 --> 01:00:56,914 who's gonna kill his son, and Satan comes over. 1207 01:00:57,088 --> 01:00:59,133 He's like, "Hey, don't do this." 1208 01:01:00,961 --> 01:01:02,330 And on one side it's... Everyone goes, 1209 01:01:02,354 --> 01:01:04,008 "Well, that's him tempting Abraham", 1210 01:01:04,182 --> 01:01:06,302 and you go... On the other side, it's him going, like, 1211 01:01:06,358 --> 01:01:08,099 "Hey, asshole, don't kill your kid." 1212 01:01:08,534 --> 01:01:10,686 Satan didn't sit on his ass and just watch that happen. 1213 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:11,972 He got up and did something. 1214 01:01:13,713 --> 01:01:16,455 Jesus walked into the desert with no food, right? 1215 01:01:16,629 --> 01:01:18,762 Satan comes to him, and he tempts him 1216 01:01:18,936 --> 01:01:21,982 with water and food. He's starving in the desert. 1217 01:01:22,809 --> 01:01:24,376 Like, "Hey, dude, don't do this. 1218 01:01:24,550 --> 01:01:26,073 Have some water. Like, you're fine." 1219 01:01:26,247 --> 01:01:28,162 Shouldn't they just call themselves atheists 1220 01:01:28,336 --> 01:01:30,556 if they don't believe in anything supernatural, 1221 01:01:30,730 --> 01:01:32,036 a supernatural being? 1222 01:01:32,471 --> 01:01:35,779 Being an atheist is boring. There's no community. 1223 01:01:36,301 --> 01:01:37,981 There's no iconography. There's no history. 1224 01:01:38,129 --> 01:01:40,261 There's no code of conduct or ethics. 1225 01:01:40,435 --> 01:01:41,435 There's no tenets. 1226 01:01:41,828 --> 01:01:43,917 It's just defining what you're not. 1227 01:01:44,439 --> 01:01:48,487 And with modern Satanism, you can define what you are. 1228 01:01:49,401 --> 01:01:51,446 I mean, we've defined Satanism 1229 01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:55,537 for the Satanic Temple with our Seven Tenets. 1230 01:02:03,502 --> 01:02:05,504 One should strive to act with compassion 1231 01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:07,288 and empathy towards all creatures 1232 01:02:07,462 --> 01:02:08,768 in accordance with reason. 1233 01:02:12,946 --> 01:02:13,946 The struggle for justice 1234 01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:15,862 is an ongoing and necessary pursuit 1235 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,735 that should prevail over laws and institutions. 1236 01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:25,437 One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone. 1237 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,659 The freedom of others should be respected, 1238 01:02:30,834 --> 01:02:33,184 including the freedom to offend. 1239 01:02:34,141 --> 01:02:36,230 To willfully and unjustly encroach 1240 01:02:36,404 --> 01:02:39,930 upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own. 1241 01:02:43,629 --> 01:02:44,869 This is my favorite one. 1242 01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:46,850 Beliefs should conform 1243 01:02:47,502 --> 01:02:49,462 to our best scientific understanding of the world. 1244 01:02:50,288 --> 01:02:51,376 We should take care 1245 01:02:51,811 --> 01:02:54,074 never to distort scientific facts 1246 01:02:54,292 --> 01:02:55,641 to fit our beliefs. 1247 01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:00,951 People are fallible. If we make a mistake, 1248 01:03:01,125 --> 01:03:02,779 we should do our best to rectify it 1249 01:03:02,953 --> 01:03:05,999 and resolve any harm that may have been caused. 1250 01:03:10,438 --> 01:03:12,136 Every tenet is a guiding principle 1251 01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:15,139 designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. 1252 01:03:16,401 --> 01:03:18,272 The spirit of compassion, wisdom, 1253 01:03:18,446 --> 01:03:20,013 and justice should always prevail 1254 01:03:20,187 --> 01:03:21,841 over the written or spoken word. 1255 01:03:22,059 --> 01:03:25,932 Hail Satan! - Hail Satan! 1256 01:03:26,106 --> 01:03:27,194 I am very surprised 1257 01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:29,544 to find myself part of an actual religion. 1258 01:03:31,372 --> 01:03:33,157 I wholeheartedly 1259 01:03:33,331 --> 01:03:35,507 agree with the Seven Tenets of the Satanic Temple. 1260 01:03:35,681 --> 01:03:38,118 I believe they far outweigh the Ten Commandments 1261 01:03:38,292 --> 01:03:40,729 in terms of morality 1262 01:03:40,904 --> 01:03:44,821 and, uh, best-case practices to live your life, 1263 01:03:45,604 --> 01:03:47,214 and why can't that be a religion? 1264 01:03:47,388 --> 01:03:49,782 Why can't me following a code of ethics, 1265 01:03:50,565 --> 01:03:52,524 having fellowship with brethren, 1266 01:03:52,959 --> 01:03:54,613 why... why can't that be a religion? 1267 01:04:01,185 --> 01:04:02,505 I'm recording. - All right. 1268 01:04:03,013 --> 01:04:06,407 Well, I want to thank you for tuning in to get an update 1269 01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:08,627 on the Arkansas Ten Commandments monument. 1270 01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:11,086 In Little Rock, 1271 01:04:11,586 --> 01:04:13,129 while the Ten Commandments continue to be watered 1272 01:04:13,153 --> 01:04:14,198 throughout the morning, 1273 01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:16,765 they stand tall in their new home. 1274 01:04:17,201 --> 01:04:19,681 Take a look. This is exactly where it sits right now. 1275 01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:21,335 It was installed on the back side 1276 01:04:21,509 --> 01:04:22,989 of the Capitol Building this morning. 1277 01:04:23,163 --> 01:04:25,209 And I want to say thank you to everyone 1278 01:04:25,557 --> 01:04:27,951 who has contributed to erect this monument. 1279 01:04:28,995 --> 01:04:30,955 This is absolutely a declaration of faith, 1280 01:04:31,128 --> 01:04:34,131 and this monument will almost certainly come down. 1281 01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:40,180 When our first Ten Commandments came up, she had a short life. 1282 01:04:43,053 --> 01:04:46,578 She lasted about 24 hours before a fervent believer 1283 01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:48,275 in the separation of church and state 1284 01:04:48,449 --> 01:04:49,929 took her down with his car. 1285 01:04:50,843 --> 01:04:51,931 Freedom! 1286 01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:58,720 I wake up, and I'm like, "Oh, my God." 1287 01:04:58,895 --> 01:05:02,072 Get this. Police say around 4:45 in the morning local time 1288 01:05:02,246 --> 01:05:03,987 a 32-year-old man 1289 01:05:04,335 --> 01:05:07,338 rammed his vehicle straight into that monument. 1290 01:05:08,513 --> 01:05:11,081 This man drove his vehicle into the statue, 1291 01:05:11,255 --> 01:05:14,736 streamed it all on Facebook. He's now facing charges. 1292 01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,311 I felt a huge pressure come over me, 1293 01:05:16,434 --> 01:05:18,479 and I heard inside, "Destroy it tonight." 1294 01:05:18,653 --> 01:05:20,153 He says he's a Christian 1295 01:05:20,177 --> 01:05:21,457 who supports the Ten Commandments 1296 01:05:22,135 --> 01:05:24,790 but not when they're replicated on State Capitol grounds. 1297 01:05:26,661 --> 01:05:28,335 This was not a good thing in my eyes 1298 01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:30,230 or in the Satanic Temple's eyes 1299 01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:32,537 because we wanted this to come down the correct way 1300 01:05:32,711 --> 01:05:33,930 and not this way, 1301 01:05:34,495 --> 01:05:36,695 and of course, this did nothing but help Rapert's cause. 1302 01:05:38,412 --> 01:05:41,850 We have to take a stand for civility in this country. 1303 01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:45,245 All of this radical talk from the Satanic Temple 1304 01:05:45,593 --> 01:05:47,595 that would cause unstable people to get out 1305 01:05:47,769 --> 01:05:51,034 and carry out these acts. What culpability do they have? 1306 01:05:52,296 --> 01:05:53,514 Journalist: 1307 01:06:00,782 --> 01:06:02,306 I don't even know how to quite respond 1308 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,524 to that question. 1309 01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:05,633 You see, you got to understand the kind of people 1310 01:06:05,657 --> 01:06:06,788 you're dealing with here. 1311 01:06:07,485 --> 01:06:10,009 The man that claims to be the head of the Satanic Temple, 1312 01:06:10,923 --> 01:06:14,231 this guy runs around the country using the name Lucien Greaves. 1313 01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:17,277 It's not even his real name. 1314 01:06:17,495 --> 01:06:21,412 Fake names, fake arguments, coming into Arkansas 1315 01:06:21,586 --> 01:06:23,370 to take advantage of gullible people. 1316 01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:25,242 The leader of the Satanic Temple, 1317 01:06:25,416 --> 01:06:27,287 he's using a fake name. 1318 01:06:27,461 --> 01:06:29,507 His name is actually Doug Mesner. 1319 01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:32,901 My name isn't Douglas Mesner either. 1320 01:06:33,424 --> 01:06:35,295 I have double-layered pseudonyms. 1321 01:06:38,777 --> 01:06:41,171 The Ten Commandments monument will be back up. 1322 01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,608 The law will be fulfilled. 1323 01:06:53,487 --> 01:06:55,465 There are a lot of Ten Commandments monuments 1324 01:06:55,489 --> 01:06:56,925 of the same exact sort 1325 01:06:57,187 --> 01:07:00,016 in many places all over the United States 1326 01:07:00,190 --> 01:07:01,670 which were put up around the same time 1327 01:07:01,713 --> 01:07:02,975 because they were distributed 1328 01:07:03,149 --> 01:07:04,977 by Paramount Pictures in connection 1329 01:07:05,151 --> 01:07:06,544 with "The Ten Commandments" movie. 1330 01:07:06,718 --> 01:07:08,720 Wait, what? Paramount Pictures? 1331 01:07:08,894 --> 01:07:11,201 Yeah, the story is that Cecil B. DeMille 1332 01:07:11,375 --> 01:07:13,377 was involved in making these Ten Commandments 1333 01:07:13,551 --> 01:07:17,468 in connection with the film and then donating them 1334 01:07:17,642 --> 01:07:19,296 to governments around the country, 1335 01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:20,819 and that's the story. 1336 01:07:20,993 --> 01:07:22,255 To promote a movie? 1337 01:07:22,516 --> 01:07:24,196 It's connected to the promotion of a movie. 1338 01:07:24,257 --> 01:07:26,433 That's crazy. 1339 01:07:27,913 --> 01:07:29,353 The Ten Commandments monuments 1340 01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:31,569 are designed to look like the stone tablets 1341 01:07:31,743 --> 01:07:33,503 that are carried down by Heston in the movie. 1342 01:07:34,572 --> 01:07:35,572 The stars from the film, 1343 01:07:36,313 --> 01:07:37,681 they're spreading them all across the country, 1344 01:07:37,705 --> 01:07:39,403 and it becomes much more present 1345 01:07:39,577 --> 01:07:40,926 in the everyday life of Americans 1346 01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:42,449 where it hadn't been before. 1347 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,626 The Ten Commandments need no interpretation. 1348 01:07:45,844 --> 01:07:50,849 Like all good law... they are simple and basic 1349 01:07:51,502 --> 01:07:52,502 and immutable. 1350 01:08:02,339 --> 01:08:03,688 Donations are pouring in 1351 01:08:03,905 --> 01:08:05,733 to replace the Ten Commandments monument, 1352 01:08:06,125 --> 01:08:09,085 including the maker of a film made at the State Capitol. 1353 01:08:09,346 --> 01:08:11,435 The people behind "God's Not Dead" 1354 01:08:11,609 --> 01:08:14,090 pledged to donate 25.000 dollars 1355 01:08:14,394 --> 01:08:15,961 to rebuild the monument. 1356 01:08:18,268 --> 01:08:22,010 Pure Flix is a Christian film production company... 1357 01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:25,579 that made the flick "God's Not Dead 2" 1358 01:08:25,753 --> 01:08:27,190 here at our State Capitol. 1359 01:08:27,799 --> 01:08:29,844 People seem to forget 1360 01:08:30,018 --> 01:08:32,238 that the most basic human right of all 1361 01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,284 is the right to know Jesus. 1362 01:08:35,328 --> 01:08:37,113 Melissa Joan Hart was here. 1363 01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:40,377 I'm not gonna be afraid to say the name Jesus. 1364 01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:45,164 This was a "real movie" here in Little Rock, Arkansas... 1365 01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:49,362 ...and so the conservative Christian base in this town, 1366 01:08:49,386 --> 01:08:51,779 it was all about the fact that they were helping 1367 01:08:51,953 --> 01:08:55,087 Senator Rapert and his godly mission. 1368 01:08:55,696 --> 01:08:56,784 Most of our viewers 1369 01:08:57,089 --> 01:08:58,830 are born-again believers or Christians, 1370 01:08:59,004 --> 01:09:02,399 and they applaud the Ten Commandments monument 1371 01:09:02,573 --> 01:09:03,573 on the State Capitol. 1372 01:09:04,052 --> 01:09:06,664 It's a... it's never happened before. 1373 01:09:06,838 --> 01:09:10,450 The... the church in America has been silent for too long. 1374 01:09:10,624 --> 01:09:13,236 The Satanic Temple, as much as they posture 1375 01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:15,847 and much as they holler at the State of Arkansas, 1376 01:09:16,108 --> 01:09:18,632 they cannot force a monument of Baphomet 1377 01:09:18,806 --> 01:09:20,156 on our Capitol grounds. 1378 01:09:22,462 --> 01:09:23,855 Nothing would make me happier 1379 01:09:24,029 --> 01:09:26,553 than to see Baphomet on our Capitol grounds. 1380 01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:35,954 I would love to see Baphomet. 1381 01:09:37,651 --> 01:09:40,176 I would love to see the Hindus, the Buddhists, 1382 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:42,656 everyone have their fair piece of the lawn out there, 1383 01:09:42,830 --> 01:09:44,180 their piece of the grass. 1384 01:09:48,140 --> 01:09:51,012 When I look at Baphomet, I see the voice of the marginalized, 1385 01:09:51,230 --> 01:09:54,190 the voices of the hated, the voice of the misunderstood, 1386 01:09:55,191 --> 01:09:59,107 the voice of the folks who don't agree mindlessly 1387 01:09:59,282 --> 01:10:01,284 with what the majority is telling them. 1388 01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:03,764 You know, I'm an ordained minister 1389 01:10:03,938 --> 01:10:05,462 before I got into politics as well, 1390 01:10:05,636 --> 01:10:08,726 and I want to say on this, what this nation needs 1391 01:10:08,900 --> 01:10:11,250 is an overflowing of the anointing of God. 1392 01:10:11,424 --> 01:10:13,121 We will not live by your commandments. 1393 01:10:13,296 --> 01:10:14,732 We're free! 1394 01:10:14,906 --> 01:10:18,039 Those who will not live by the law... 1395 01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:22,653 ...shall die by the law! 1396 01:10:29,964 --> 01:10:31,662 I think we can all come together 1397 01:10:31,836 --> 01:10:35,231 and have a reconciliation and all coexist. 1398 01:10:39,147 --> 01:10:41,628 I would love to see the Baphomet 1399 01:10:41,802 --> 01:10:43,717 standing next to a Ten Commandments monument 1400 01:10:43,891 --> 01:10:46,459 to represent religious pluralism, 1401 01:10:46,764 --> 01:10:50,550 one of the greatest features of the American experiment. 1402 01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:53,814 It's... It's... 1403 01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:56,077 I... It's probably never gonna happen. 1404 01:11:04,477 --> 01:11:08,394 I actually chose a couple spots I thought would be nice for it, 1405 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:10,614 and they said, "Well, how about this spot?" 1406 01:11:10,788 --> 01:11:12,572 they... they kind of wanted me to take. 1407 01:11:13,181 --> 01:11:15,575 So is that something... - Most easily run into 1408 01:11:15,749 --> 01:11:18,186 by a truck from the road. 1409 01:11:28,588 --> 01:11:30,388 We're trying to do this within the system 1410 01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:32,394 because that's the best way to challenge the system 1411 01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:34,638 is to kind of use their laws 1412 01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:36,814 and the system they've created against them. 1413 01:11:38,424 --> 01:11:40,644 Satanists sue Missouri. 1414 01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:42,820 Abortion rights were the focus today 1415 01:11:42,994 --> 01:11:44,300 in the Missouri Supreme Court. 1416 01:11:44,474 --> 01:11:46,302 Current Missouri law requires a woman 1417 01:11:46,476 --> 01:11:49,087 be given an informational booklet on abortion. 1418 01:11:49,261 --> 01:11:52,656 Paperwork that said, "Life starts at conception." 1419 01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:54,614 Mary Doe is suing Missouri Governor, 1420 01:11:54,788 --> 01:11:56,050 Eric Greitens. 1421 01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:59,184 I think that if we're being sued by the Satanic Temple, 1422 01:11:59,619 --> 01:12:01,186 we got to be doing something right. 1423 01:12:01,534 --> 01:12:03,815 We're doing something right here in the State of Missouri. 1424 01:12:05,103 --> 01:12:07,323 Thank you. Thank you. 1425 01:12:07,497 --> 01:12:09,107 This lawsuit by the Satanic Temple 1426 01:12:09,368 --> 01:12:13,633 on behalf of one of its members is like the Hobby Lobby case. 1427 01:12:14,286 --> 01:12:16,606 The evangelical Christian owners of Hobby Lobby 1428 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,073 craft stores challenged Obamacare 1429 01:12:19,247 --> 01:12:20,988 that requires for-profit companies 1430 01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:23,513 to provide comprehensive birth control coverage, 1431 01:12:23,687 --> 01:12:26,385 saying it violated their religious beliefs. 1432 01:12:26,994 --> 01:12:28,842 Given the court's ruling in favor of Hobby Lobby, 1433 01:12:28,866 --> 01:12:30,520 the Satanic Temple has some sincerely-held 1434 01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:32,260 religious beliefs of its own. 1435 01:12:32,696 --> 01:12:35,022 The Satanists believe that, quote, "The body is inviolable 1436 01:12:35,046 --> 01:12:37,048 subject to one's own will alone." 1437 01:12:37,309 --> 01:12:39,109 And they say they strive to make all decisions 1438 01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:40,420 regarding personal health based 1439 01:12:41,008 --> 01:12:42,725 on the best scientific understanding of the world. 1440 01:12:42,749 --> 01:12:44,466 It's brilliant, right? Because one of the things 1441 01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:46,840 the Supreme Court said in its Hobby Lobby decision 1442 01:12:47,014 --> 01:12:49,887 is we can't question people's religious beliefs. 1443 01:12:50,061 --> 01:12:52,106 If they say it violates their religious beliefs, 1444 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,196 so be it. She should be exempted from that law. 1445 01:12:55,588 --> 01:12:57,468 We're ready to proceed on the first case. 1446 01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:00,352 Good morning. - Morning. 1447 01:13:00,376 --> 01:13:01,616 May it please the court, 1448 01:13:02,290 --> 01:13:05,990 it's appalling that the state of Missouri legislates into law 1449 01:13:06,512 --> 01:13:09,428 that a human life comes into existence 1450 01:13:09,907 --> 01:13:11,909 at conception. And if you... 1451 01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:14,564 What creates the presumption that the statute 1452 01:13:14,738 --> 01:13:16,653 that says life begins at conception 1453 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:19,743 is solely based on a religious tenet? 1454 01:13:20,221 --> 01:13:23,268 There is no scientific basis for it. 1455 01:13:23,877 --> 01:13:26,358 It's just a proposition. 1456 01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:29,492 It's like saying, "Jesus rose from the dead." 1457 01:13:29,709 --> 01:13:33,234 You can believe that, but you'd be appalled 1458 01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:37,500 if the Missouri legislature legislated that into law. 1459 01:13:43,157 --> 01:13:45,769 The thing is I know we... if we talk with our lawyer, 1460 01:13:45,943 --> 01:13:47,423 he's gonna say, like, "No, 1461 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,338 people just don't understand what this really means." 1462 01:13:51,688 --> 01:13:53,864 Lawsuits move so slow. 1463 01:13:54,908 --> 01:13:56,780 I mean, nothing's been resolved, you know? 1464 01:13:56,954 --> 01:13:57,998 Nothing's happened, 1465 01:13:58,912 --> 01:14:02,263 and it's... it's... And yet it's a pi... It's a massive... 1466 01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,004 it's a massive legal bill... 1467 01:14:05,092 --> 01:14:07,921 and there's really nothing so far to show for it. 1468 01:14:12,099 --> 01:14:16,408 We're paying for it through... just the regular donations 1469 01:14:16,582 --> 01:14:20,151 we receive and proceeds from merchandise sales. 1470 01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:22,849 It broke the 100.000 dollar mark 1471 01:14:23,023 --> 01:14:24,155 some time ago, 1472 01:14:24,677 --> 01:14:26,940 and I'm not sure how far it's exceeded that by now. 1473 01:14:27,114 --> 01:14:30,117 I mean... it just hurts my feelings to look at it. 1474 01:14:42,869 --> 01:14:44,958 There's no doubt that this is my life's work... 1475 01:14:47,308 --> 01:14:49,572 and I don't want the Satanic Temple 1476 01:14:49,746 --> 01:14:51,225 to be known for me, 1477 01:14:51,661 --> 01:14:54,707 but the success or failure of the Satanic Temple 1478 01:14:54,881 --> 01:14:57,318 has always been, uh, you know, 1479 01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:59,625 either my vindication or failure. 1480 01:15:15,859 --> 01:15:17,861 As the Satanic Temple developed, 1481 01:15:18,035 --> 01:15:19,906 we would hear less and less from Jex. 1482 01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,870 And Detroit became a bit of a mystery even to us, 1483 01:15:27,044 --> 01:15:30,177 um, in terms of what was going on with the chapter... 1484 01:15:32,005 --> 01:15:33,137 which was under her control. 1485 01:15:34,486 --> 01:15:37,750 After centuries of biblical patriarchal dominance, 1486 01:15:37,924 --> 01:15:40,361 the annihilation of native and diverse cultures, 1487 01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,755 the propagation of racism and homophobia, 1488 01:15:42,929 --> 01:15:45,366 we owe our oppressors! 1489 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,284 We owe them hostility, inextinguishable justice, 1490 01:15:50,458 --> 01:15:53,244 and uncompromising destruction. 1491 01:15:54,724 --> 01:15:56,116 We outnumber them. 1492 01:15:56,682 --> 01:15:59,163 We possess the fortitude to bring down powerful men 1493 01:15:59,337 --> 01:16:01,208 and dismantle racist systems. 1494 01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:03,950 Their existence is only made possible 1495 01:16:04,124 --> 01:16:05,735 by our own inaction. 1496 01:16:06,866 --> 01:16:10,391 They have given us just enough to have something to lose. 1497 01:16:10,609 --> 01:16:13,743 They have built a system that grinds us down, 1498 01:16:13,917 --> 01:16:16,006 and they tell us to swallow our grief 1499 01:16:16,180 --> 01:16:18,748 and our rage in the name of respectability, 1500 01:16:18,922 --> 01:16:21,794 that obedience is patriotism. 1501 01:16:23,579 --> 01:16:26,103 There is no model for moving forward. 1502 01:16:26,277 --> 01:16:27,713 We are the model. 1503 01:16:28,235 --> 01:16:31,978 Who taught you how to protest? Who taught you how to get mad? 1504 01:16:32,413 --> 01:16:34,328 Who taught you how to speak up? 1505 01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:39,856 'Cause we are going to disrupt, distort, destroy, 1506 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,208 and reclaim, resist, and rebuild! 1507 01:16:54,087 --> 01:16:56,524 Hail Satan! - Hail Satan! 1508 01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:59,179 Hail Satan! - Hail Satan! 1509 01:16:59,353 --> 01:17:02,095 Hail Satan! - Hail Satan! 1510 01:17:02,269 --> 01:17:09,102 Hail Satan! 1511 01:17:21,549 --> 01:17:24,901 How do I put this? Hmm. Let me think. 1512 01:17:25,423 --> 01:17:29,122 She called for, um, Donald Trump to be killed. 1513 01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:31,081 Um, that's obviously problematic 1514 01:17:31,385 --> 01:17:33,425 because we are a completely nonviolent organization, 1515 01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:36,216 and that's completely against our ethics. 1516 01:17:38,828 --> 01:17:41,308 It was glaringly obvious that Jex, 1517 01:17:41,831 --> 01:17:43,659 being the wild card that she is, 1518 01:17:43,833 --> 01:17:46,270 wasn't really gonna fit in the organization anymore, 1519 01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:49,752 so Jex Blackmore is no longer part of the Temple 1520 01:17:49,926 --> 01:17:50,926 at this point. 1521 01:17:54,626 --> 01:17:58,456 Um, I called her, ultimately, but that was, uh, 1522 01:17:59,109 --> 01:18:01,720 that was a National Council discussion. Uh... 1523 01:18:03,287 --> 01:18:05,028 she said what she said, 1524 01:18:05,245 --> 01:18:08,727 and we just couldn't have a double standard for anybody. 1525 01:18:11,425 --> 01:18:13,340 I don't want to go off on camera right here. 1526 01:18:13,514 --> 01:18:15,492 I understand. - About the injustice of that 1527 01:18:15,516 --> 01:18:18,476 in many different ways, but yeah, it's been a lot. 1528 01:18:20,521 --> 01:18:23,481 I have to say it does feel a little bit 1529 01:18:24,264 --> 01:18:26,919 satisfying to be... 1530 01:18:28,486 --> 01:18:30,009 you know, fired from the Satanic Temple 1531 01:18:30,183 --> 01:18:31,358 for being too extreme. 1532 01:18:36,755 --> 01:18:38,714 There's a great fear that we are going to do 1533 01:18:38,888 --> 01:18:40,280 something that is so offensive 1534 01:18:40,541 --> 01:18:42,718 that it's going to somehow discredit our work. 1535 01:18:42,892 --> 01:18:44,763 I mean, we're a Satanic organization. 1536 01:18:45,372 --> 01:18:49,942 There's, like, this... this fear of our legal system 1537 01:18:50,116 --> 01:18:52,989 that is part of what I'm fighting against, 1538 01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:55,100 and part of what I think is important for us 1539 01:18:55,165 --> 01:18:56,514 to be liberated from. 1540 01:18:58,777 --> 01:18:59,822 I love Jex. 1541 01:19:00,431 --> 01:19:01,756 I worked with her from the beginning, 1542 01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:03,608 and it's really quite sad, 1543 01:19:03,782 --> 01:19:08,526 but... you know, as we cohere this organizational structure, 1544 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:13,400 we have to have a kind of uniform set of rules. 1545 01:19:13,792 --> 01:19:17,274 We lose some things and we gain some things from that, I guess. 1546 01:19:18,754 --> 01:19:20,146 One, two, three, four. 1547 01:19:28,938 --> 01:19:30,654 Like, the reality is the Satanic Temple 1548 01:19:30,678 --> 01:19:32,898 has become formalized in a way 1549 01:19:33,072 --> 01:19:35,248 that is a much more traditional institution. 1550 01:19:37,381 --> 01:19:40,123 I fear that that special space 1551 01:19:40,297 --> 01:19:43,822 that was created for people... is gone. 1552 01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:11,284 Yeah, more or less. 1553 01:20:11,458 --> 01:20:13,417 I mean, I assume they need to drill? 1554 01:20:13,591 --> 01:20:14,591 Yeah. 1555 01:20:19,684 --> 01:20:20,924 Hey, good morning, guys. 1556 01:20:21,251 --> 01:20:22,531 We are here at the State Capitol. 1557 01:20:22,861 --> 01:20:24,602 In just a few hours we are expected to see 1558 01:20:24,776 --> 01:20:26,778 the Ten Commandments monument back up. 1559 01:20:37,615 --> 01:20:39,922 So Article Two, Section 24 1560 01:20:40,096 --> 01:20:41,662 of the Arkansas State Constitution 1561 01:20:41,967 --> 01:20:45,405 says that there shall never be any preference given by law 1562 01:20:45,579 --> 01:20:48,495 to an establishment of religion, a denomination... 1563 01:20:48,669 --> 01:20:49,801 Your head's cut off. 1564 01:20:50,410 --> 01:20:51,498 Okay. - Yeah. 1565 01:20:52,543 --> 01:20:55,024 Anyways, the point is, is when a senator tries 1566 01:20:55,198 --> 01:20:56,895 to take ownership of your religion, 1567 01:20:57,069 --> 01:20:59,724 give it over to the government, uh, that's a... 1568 01:21:01,247 --> 01:21:02,901 Any Christian should be offended. 1569 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,128 Yeah, yeah. 1570 01:21:20,353 --> 01:21:22,573 Hello? - Hey, it's Stu. 1571 01:21:32,757 --> 01:21:33,757 I did. I saw it. 1572 01:21:33,932 --> 01:21:35,194 Wake up, America. 1573 01:21:35,455 --> 01:21:38,415 Wake up, church. Wake up, Christians. 1574 01:21:39,546 --> 01:21:41,505 It's about time in the United States of America, 1575 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:42,679 as a Christian nation, 1576 01:21:43,202 --> 01:21:44,527 we get back to upholding what we believe in. 1577 01:21:44,551 --> 01:21:45,591 Amen! - Amen! 1578 01:21:45,988 --> 01:21:48,991 This is a Christian nation. 1579 01:21:50,253 --> 01:21:51,795 I can't see how they could possibly 1580 01:21:51,819 --> 01:21:52,820 get around this stuff. 1581 01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:54,865 This is a violation, 1582 01:21:55,301 --> 01:21:56,781 and they just completely ignored it. 1583 01:21:57,216 --> 01:22:00,176 You know, once the thing is going, we'll file. 1584 01:22:00,872 --> 01:22:02,700 I... I'm just really hard-pressed 1585 01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:05,529 to come up with a way in which we could lose this case. 1586 01:22:14,277 --> 01:22:16,061 We want to put up monuments in every state, 1587 01:22:16,235 --> 01:22:17,933 every county, every city and every town 1588 01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:19,587 and every organization that wants one, 1589 01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:20,805 we're gonna help you do that. 1590 01:22:24,896 --> 01:22:27,029 Why are there Ten Commandments monuments bills 1591 01:22:27,203 --> 01:22:28,856 simultaneously in multiple states? 1592 01:22:29,770 --> 01:22:31,772 Why are there abortion restriction bills, 1593 01:22:31,947 --> 01:22:35,733 anti-LGBT bills simultaneously across different states? 1594 01:22:36,081 --> 01:22:37,865 Clearly there is a concerted effort, 1595 01:22:38,301 --> 01:22:39,621 and that is not religious liberty. 1596 01:22:39,693 --> 01:22:40,956 That's Christian supremacy. 1597 01:22:41,130 --> 01:22:44,698 * I put a spell on you * 1598 01:22:45,134 --> 01:22:48,615 * Because you're mine * 1599 01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:52,793 * I can't stand The things that you do * 1600 01:22:53,055 --> 01:22:57,450 * No, no, no No, I ain't lyin' * 1601 01:22:58,234 --> 01:23:02,716 No, I don't care If you don't want me... * 1602 01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:06,198 I mean, we have to push this back 1603 01:23:06,372 --> 01:23:08,292 because what they're looking for is, essentially, 1604 01:23:08,331 --> 01:23:10,681 some kind of Christian Sharia law, their version of it... 1605 01:23:11,812 --> 01:23:15,555 where legislation and their view of morals 1606 01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:17,166 is implemented by a church 1607 01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:18,689 that a lot of us aren't a part of, 1608 01:23:19,168 --> 01:23:20,821 and we just can't let that happen. 1609 01:23:26,088 --> 01:23:29,743 * I love you, I love you Yah yah gow * 1610 01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:47,239 * I put a spell on you * 1611 01:23:47,413 --> 01:23:50,460 * Lord, lord, lord * 1612 01:23:50,721 --> 01:23:54,333 * 'Cause you're mine Yeah * 1613 01:23:54,507 --> 01:23:56,988 * I can't stand the things That you do * 1614 01:23:57,162 --> 01:24:00,948 * When you're foolin' around * 1615 01:24:01,688 --> 01:24:05,301 * I don't care If you don't want me * 1616 01:24:05,475 --> 01:24:08,565 * 'Cause I'm yours Yours, yours * 1617 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,004 * Anyhow, yeah * 1618 01:24:13,178 --> 01:24:17,226 * Yeah yeah yeah * 1619 01:24:23,928 --> 01:24:25,016 One, two, three. 1620 01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:54,413 The Satanic Temple will hold a rally 1621 01:24:54,437 --> 01:24:55,655 at the Arkansas State Capitol 1622 01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,701 Thursday, August 16th. 1623 01:24:58,571 --> 01:24:59,833 The centerpiece of the rally 1624 01:25:00,182 --> 01:25:02,619 will be a Satanic statue of Baphomet. 1625 01:25:03,663 --> 01:25:05,685 The Satanic Temple says the organization 1626 01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:07,319 is being discriminated against 1627 01:25:07,493 --> 01:25:09,191 because the state will not install 1628 01:25:09,365 --> 01:25:12,107 a Satanic monument on the Capitol grounds. 1629 01:25:22,726 --> 01:25:26,033 I'm Shiva. I'm the Director of National Events for TST, 1630 01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:28,645 and I thought we could start by going around the room. 1631 01:25:29,036 --> 01:25:30,396 I'm from right here in Little Rock, 1632 01:25:30,429 --> 01:25:31,996 and I am tickled pink that all of you 1633 01:25:32,170 --> 01:25:34,912 are here in our fair city. Tomorrow's gonna be fun. 1634 01:25:35,695 --> 01:25:38,742 I'm from El Paso, Texas. I'm with Frontera Satanica. 1635 01:25:39,046 --> 01:25:41,048 I'm one of the cofounders of Satanic Arkansas, 1636 01:25:41,223 --> 01:25:43,877 and we are super stoked that you guys are here. 1637 01:25:44,051 --> 01:25:46,315 I'm Lanzifer Longinus. 1638 01:25:46,489 --> 01:25:49,535 I'm... I'm head of the San Marcos chapter. 1639 01:25:49,927 --> 01:25:51,767 I was the head of the San Antonio chapter, 1640 01:25:51,929 --> 01:25:53,844 and, um, the Devil's work is never done. 1641 01:25:54,105 --> 01:25:57,500 I'm Jeremy, Skullcrusher if we're using pseudonyms. 1642 01:25:57,674 --> 01:25:59,502 And I am the Monster from Atlanta. 1643 01:25:59,676 --> 01:26:01,591 And, uh, 1644 01:26:01,808 --> 01:26:03,245 I'm just here to support something 1645 01:26:03,419 --> 01:26:04,681 that's very important to me. 1646 01:26:05,595 --> 01:26:06,995 Glad to be here. Fuckin' hail Satan. 1647 01:26:23,265 --> 01:26:24,527 Are you excited? 1648 01:26:28,705 --> 01:26:29,706 No. 1649 01:26:43,241 --> 01:26:44,521 They're gonna have, I guess 1650 01:26:44,764 --> 01:26:47,289 a nine-foot-tall statue of Satan. 1651 01:26:48,681 --> 01:26:52,294 Well, we came here today in order to negate that. 1652 01:26:53,817 --> 01:26:54,817 Honk the horn. 1653 01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:57,777 God bless you. 1654 01:27:03,174 --> 01:27:04,567 Their platform is separation 1655 01:27:04,741 --> 01:27:05,872 of church and state, 1656 01:27:06,308 --> 01:27:09,311 which makes it sound really nice, so yeah. 1657 01:27:09,485 --> 01:27:12,270 They just want to irritate, if you want to know the truth. 1658 01:27:18,668 --> 01:27:19,843 We're a Christian country, 1659 01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:22,628 and so they don't have the right to alter that. 1660 01:27:23,107 --> 01:27:24,987 They don't have a right to put their monstrosity 1661 01:27:25,065 --> 01:27:26,066 on the State Capitol. 1662 01:27:26,458 --> 01:27:28,025 But do we really wanna believe 1663 01:27:28,286 --> 01:27:30,462 there's no consequence but God? 1664 01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:33,683 There is this individual that has, 1665 01:27:33,857 --> 01:27:35,772 like, a previous conviction for planning, 1666 01:27:36,294 --> 01:27:38,035 you know, mass shootings... - Hmm. 1667 01:27:38,514 --> 01:27:40,864 ...and our anonymous sources 1668 01:27:41,038 --> 01:27:42,624 have said that he will definitely be there, 1669 01:27:42,648 --> 01:27:43,954 and that is a concern. 1670 01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,920 And what happens if you see somebody 1671 01:27:46,043 --> 01:27:47,740 that I don't see pulling some shit? 1672 01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:49,568 So we've got the outer team, 1673 01:27:49,742 --> 01:27:51,962 which I think at this point is gonna be six people, 1674 01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:54,921 so they should see something first. 1675 01:27:55,095 --> 01:27:58,011 Somebody's gonna have to really get through two layers 1676 01:27:58,185 --> 01:28:01,188 of people to get to you. That makes it very implausible. 1677 01:28:01,972 --> 01:28:04,148 Well, I don't think anybody else around here 1678 01:28:04,322 --> 01:28:05,541 is really considered a target, 1679 01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:07,978 so I think that's really all we're worried about. 1680 01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:27,214 This is the infancy of the Satanic Temple. 1681 01:28:28,128 --> 01:28:31,175 In our own humble little way, we are changing the world. 1682 01:28:33,308 --> 01:28:35,266 More and more as time goes on, 1683 01:28:36,006 --> 01:28:39,749 people are seeing that we are a genuine movement. 1684 01:28:41,577 --> 01:28:43,883 This would be very difficult to maintain 1685 01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:47,800 if somewhere in any of our minds, 1686 01:28:47,974 --> 01:28:50,020 those of us who are actively working on this, 1687 01:28:50,194 --> 01:28:51,500 we didn't truly believe 1688 01:28:51,848 --> 01:28:53,850 in every element of what we're doing... 1689 01:28:55,112 --> 01:28:57,941 and to be doing this as anything other 1690 01:28:58,637 --> 01:29:01,945 than an authentic expression of who we are... 1691 01:29:02,859 --> 01:29:07,994 I just can't see doing that without being psychotic, 1692 01:29:08,168 --> 01:29:12,347 which I guess... is... is a theory. 1693 01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:19,354 It is out of not only Satanism but patriotism 1694 01:29:20,180 --> 01:29:22,487 that I am motivated to come to protest events, 1695 01:29:23,183 --> 01:29:25,838 to have the pilgrimage, to visibly be a part 1696 01:29:26,012 --> 01:29:27,884 of a declaration of those beliefs. 1697 01:29:29,799 --> 01:29:32,410 That's an ancient human religious tradition. 1698 01:29:32,584 --> 01:29:33,803 I mean, that's the pilgrimage. 1699 01:29:35,544 --> 01:29:37,304 I think it's a sense of duty to do this. 1700 01:29:37,415 --> 01:29:39,809 I don't even feel like it's optional at this point. 1701 01:29:40,897 --> 01:29:43,334 You know, you see Christian theocracy 1702 01:29:43,508 --> 01:29:47,164 just, you know, creeping itself into our government, you know, 1703 01:29:47,338 --> 01:29:51,037 and they're not gonna stop. They're just gonna continue, 1704 01:29:51,429 --> 01:29:54,171 and it is our duty as the adversary 1705 01:29:54,389 --> 01:29:55,651 to stand up to this. 1706 01:29:58,828 --> 01:30:00,438 I could just go along and just be a quiet 1707 01:30:00,612 --> 01:30:03,267 little secular individual, like a lot of people do. 1708 01:30:03,615 --> 01:30:05,158 I... I don't want to say the phrase, like, 1709 01:30:05,182 --> 01:30:06,836 "this has given my life purpose", 1710 01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:09,752 but I would say that this makes life fun. 1711 01:30:12,407 --> 01:30:16,715 Radical Satanism has its claws... 1712 01:30:16,889 --> 01:30:18,529 ...in the hearts of people across America, 1713 01:30:18,630 --> 01:30:19,870 and I think that's... that's... 1714 01:30:19,979 --> 01:30:22,155 that's something to pay attention to. 1715 01:30:43,873 --> 01:30:46,005 * Hallelujah * 1716 01:30:46,353 --> 01:30:48,355 * Hallelujah * 1717 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:50,793 * Hallelujah, hallelujah * 1718 01:30:51,054 --> 01:30:53,622 * Hallelujah * 1719 01:30:54,013 --> 01:30:56,015 * Hallelujah... * 1720 01:30:56,407 --> 01:30:57,647 Good people of Arkansas 1721 01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,497 and supporters of religious liberty, 1722 01:31:00,063 --> 01:31:04,459 I present to you Baphomet. 1723 01:31:04,633 --> 01:31:07,897 Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, 1724 01:31:08,071 --> 01:31:10,552 now and in the hour of our death, amen. 1725 01:31:10,726 --> 01:31:14,251 Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners. 1726 01:31:15,905 --> 01:31:17,341 Baphomet on the same grounds 1727 01:31:17,515 --> 01:31:18,515 as the Ten Commandments 1728 01:31:19,169 --> 01:31:21,650 does not represent the conflict but a resolution. 1729 01:31:23,826 --> 01:31:26,437 If Christianity abandons liberal democracy, 1730 01:31:26,611 --> 01:31:29,048 it will have forfeited the future to Satan. 1731 01:31:30,093 --> 01:31:34,401 To which I say, hail Satan. - Hail Satan! 1732 01:31:54,639 --> 01:31:58,948 * Satan never sleeps * 1733 01:32:00,166 --> 01:32:02,429 * He walks behind you * 1734 01:32:02,604 --> 01:32:04,301 * Through the night * 1735 01:32:04,649 --> 01:32:11,569 * And through the day * 1736 01:32:12,614 --> 01:32:14,833 * Silently he creeps * 1737 01:32:16,835 --> 01:32:18,707 * He's always there * 1738 01:32:18,968 --> 01:32:21,274 * To put temptation * 1739 01:32:21,927 --> 01:32:24,582 * In your way * 1740 01:32:25,409 --> 01:32:26,453 * So * 1741 01:32:27,237 --> 01:32:29,239 d* If you're *d 1742 01:32:29,718 --> 01:32:31,894 * Burning with desire * 1743 01:32:33,722 --> 01:32:40,032 * He'll find A way to fan the fire * 1744 01:32:42,252 --> 01:32:49,215 * Then in the embers Of the flame * 1745 01:32:49,912 --> 01:32:56,788 * You'll have Your foolish heart to blame * 1746 01:32:58,485 --> 01:33:01,488 * Oh, oh * 1747 01:33:02,577 --> 01:33:04,448 * Satan has a plan * 1748 01:33:07,190 --> 01:33:09,540 * He's out to capture you * 1749 01:33:10,019 --> 01:33:15,633 * In any way he can * 1750 01:33:18,723 --> 01:33:22,466 * Ever since the world began * 1751 01:33:24,207 --> 01:33:26,601 * He's tried to come between * 1752 01:33:27,166 --> 01:33:32,084 * A woman and a man * 1753 01:33:32,737 --> 01:33:37,176 * And so no matter * 1754 01:33:37,481 --> 01:33:39,701 * If you're great or small * 1755 01:33:40,136 --> 01:33:45,010 * He knows there's evil In us all * 1756 01:33:45,358 --> 01:33:47,839 * And that is why * 1757 01:33:49,711 --> 01:33:53,236 * Satan never * 1758 01:33:53,410 --> 01:33:58,328 * Sleeps * 1759 01:34:01,331 --> 01:34:02,419 And I do want to clarify, 1760 01:34:02,941 --> 01:34:04,701 we actually had just somebody two seconds ago 1761 01:34:04,769 --> 01:34:08,425 drive past asking us where this Satanic Temple statue is. 1762 01:34:08,730 --> 01:34:10,993 Just to clarify, that was here just for the rally 1763 01:34:11,167 --> 01:34:13,299 and was taken away when that rally was over. 1764 01:34:13,473 --> 01:34:15,780 Now, currently there is a lawsuit pending 1765 01:34:15,954 --> 01:34:17,303 in federal court, 1766 01:34:17,782 --> 01:34:20,263 the Satanic Temple claiming religious discrimination, 1767 01:34:20,698 --> 01:34:21,873 while the state responding, 1768 01:34:22,134 --> 01:34:24,920 calling the Satanic Temple a satire group. 1769 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,920 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 138531

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