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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,110 --> 00:00:24,950 [Music] 2 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,680 hey guys 3 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,480 this is elliott with modern music studio 4 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,080 i'm gonna be walking us through a couple 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,320 different techniques for miking a grand 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,520 piano 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,760 and i'm just gonna hop right into it so 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,280 let's dive in 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,800 so to start off with there's a couple 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,559 different things that i want to go into 11 00:00:40,559 --> 00:00:41,600 about just the 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,559 kind of physics of a piano and why you 13 00:00:44,559 --> 00:00:46,160 mic them the way we're gonna be making 14 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:46,640 them 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,520 and to start with the piano has a really 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,000 large 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,719 range for uh frequencies of notes so you 18 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:54,640 got really high end note 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,160 you got really low notes 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,440 and to really capture the entire piano 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,800 what you want to do is you want to get a 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,799 mic on at least the bottom 23 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:06,720 end of the piano and a mic on the top 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,240 end of the piano so you're really 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,680 able to pick up those highs and those 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,390 lows 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,240 all right so now we've gone into a 28 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,280 little bit about just where you're 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,159 putting the mics 30 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:19,280 i want to talk a little bit about the 31 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,840 strings as well so on the left side of 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,560 the piano 33 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,640 you have really long really thick 34 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,560 strings these are your lows 35 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,560 and on the right side we have our really 36 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:29,840 short really thin 37 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,759 strings those are your highs so let's 38 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:33,040 make sure if you're putting a mic 39 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,720 on either side you just want to pick up 40 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,119 both ends of those strings 41 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:39,040 now in front of me right now i have a 42 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,640 spaced stereos 43 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,240 pair or otherwise known as an orft 44 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,280 setup i think it's ortf setup 45 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,360 and what this is going to do is it's 46 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,399 just going to be a 47 00:01:50,399 --> 00:01:53,600 good way of capturing the lows and the 48 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,240 highs 49 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,960 from a really close point so these mics 50 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,719 are really close to the strings they're 51 00:01:58,719 --> 00:01:59,840 about probably like an 52 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,960 inch and a half off the strings max and 53 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,680 they're 54 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,159 uh pointed directly at the strings i 55 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:07,840 usually try and find like a middle 56 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,160 ground so if this is the high end 57 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,000 and this is the low end of the piano we 58 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,520 just split it in half 59 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,720 at middle c you want to make sure that 60 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,160 your mic is in the very 61 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,520 center of these uh this set of strings 62 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,000 for these 63 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,280 keys so obviously this string 64 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,360 is on the farthest side of the piano i 65 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,800 don't want a mic right there i want a 66 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,519 mic a little bit closer to right here 67 00:02:31,519 --> 00:02:33,840 and you can visually see where that note 68 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,160 is when you hit the piano key you 69 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,000 normally are able to look into the piano 70 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,680 and see the hammer move 71 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,599 and see what string that that hammer is 72 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:42,959 on 73 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:46,319 um conversely so on the low end of it 74 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:49,519 you don't want to mic this very very low 75 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:51,440 string right here you want to kind of be 76 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,720 in the middle as well 77 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,720 so say like c2 or 78 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 c3 but somewhere in that area and use 79 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,319 the same trick 80 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:02,319 just look for where that hammer is 81 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:05,920 moving and put the mic on that string 82 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,000 right now i'm just using two mics you 83 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,280 can go uh 84 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 farther into it if you have the setup 85 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,200 and put a mic kind of um 86 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,680 across the board of it and really pick 87 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,080 up all the strings 88 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,599 a little bit better that way but i don't 89 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:21,760 necessarily think that is necessary 90 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,200 especially with some of the other 91 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,560 techniques that i'm going to be going 92 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:30,470 into 93 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,480 so now i've gone through a little bit of 94 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,680 the ortf 95 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,000 setup or your spaced stereo pair i'm 96 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,760 just going to play a couple little notes 97 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,840 and give you a chance to really hear 98 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,200 what that sounds like 99 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,640 and then compare them to some of the 100 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,239 other mic and techniques that i'm going 101 00:03:44,239 --> 00:03:45,519 to use 102 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:47,060 so here's a little something 103 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:51,030 [Music] 104 00:03:51,040 --> 00:04:12,830 what i want to play 105 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:21,990 so 106 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,160 so there's a little something just kind 107 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,840 of showing you the whole side of the 108 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:27,600 or the whole range of the piano going 109 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,360 from low end to high end 110 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,080 and now i'm going to go into a similar 111 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,240 pair but i'm going to use the 112 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,160 move the mics a little farther away from 113 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,360 the piano 114 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,030 so bear with me while i move these 115 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,040 right so i've moved these mics just a 116 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,960 little farther away 117 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,680 you can see them one mic right here and 118 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,479 one mic 119 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:50,479 uh kind of pointing towards the low end 120 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:51,680 strings 121 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,840 and notice that they're still pointed at 122 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,040 the piano at the strings 123 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,199 but the the main difference is just 124 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:01,520 distance from the piano right now 125 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,240 and what we're looking at is as you play 126 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,830 any note on the piano 127 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,320 the way a piano works especially a grand 128 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:10,960 piano 129 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,440 is with this shell up here this uh this 130 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,479 lid 131 00:05:14,479 --> 00:05:17,600 um with it angled what's happening is 132 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,280 you hit a note and the sound's gonna 133 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:19,680 move 134 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,800 up and bounce off of this and go 135 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,199 pretty much just like out towards your 136 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:26,960 microphones or if you're in a kind of 137 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,720 concert hall towards your concert 138 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,199 hall or the audience and that's the 139 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:32,720 reason why a lot of times people don't 140 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,440 actually mic 141 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,000 a grand piano in a concert hall is 142 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:36,880 because they are 143 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,800 super loud and just the way they're 144 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,560 designed they project 145 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,280 all of their sound towards the audience 146 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:44,479 using this 147 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:47,360 lid so what's cool about this miking 148 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,000 technique 149 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,400 is you're getting a really big stereo 150 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,039 sound 151 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:53,120 and you're picking up the high end left 152 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,479 right keys in the high end 153 00:05:54,479 --> 00:05:57,280 or low end left keys using this 154 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:58,000 technique 155 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,840 just the same as if you had the mics 156 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:02,639 right on the actual strings themselves 157 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:03,759 the only difference here is you're 158 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:05,919 getting a you're giving the sound the 159 00:06:05,919 --> 00:06:08,160 strings a little more time to develop 160 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,960 as they uh move toward the mic so 161 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,560 instead of picking the sound up right 162 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,000 away right here 163 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,759 the sound's gonna kind of come up hit 164 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:18,000 here and then bounce towards the mic 165 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,680 and what this is gonna do is it's gonna 166 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,440 allow all the 167 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,840 high end notes that you're playing to 168 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:25,680 kind of blend together a little bit more 169 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,199 and get a slightly more 170 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,080 balanced sound going to your mic same 171 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,120 with the low end 172 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,919 rather than picking up super lows 173 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:34,639 instantly 174 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:35,919 what's happening is the low end they're 175 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:37,919 going to have time to bounce up and go 176 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:39,120 towards your low end mic 177 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,319 and pick up a little more blended sound 178 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,319 if you will so let me give you a little 179 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:46,479 bit of a demo of what that sounds like 180 00:06:46,479 --> 00:06:48,400 right now 181 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,919 i'm gonna play something similar to what 182 00:06:49,919 --> 00:07:07,860 i played earlier 183 00:07:07,870 --> 00:07:21,510 [Music] 184 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,440 so that kind of gives you a little bit 185 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,680 of a demo of what the 186 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,039 spaced ortf a little bit farther from 187 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:31,199 the piano sounds like 188 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:33,599 so try it out try different distances 189 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:34,560 from the piano 190 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,880 sometimes really far away and by really 191 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,560 far i mean more like probably five feet 192 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,880 six feet sounds pretty good 193 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,199 sometimes closer sounds better it really 194 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:44,879 just depends on the room that you're in 195 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:46,560 as well as the type of mic that you're 196 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,039 using so my next um 197 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:50,879 miking technique that i want to show you 198 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:52,240 guys is we're going to do something 199 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:52,800 called an 200 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,000 xy with these two mics and xy is only 201 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,319 doable with two mics so 202 00:07:58,319 --> 00:07:59,680 kind of keep that in mind you can't do 203 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,160 it with one and give me a second i'm 204 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,680 gonna set it up and i'll explain what it 205 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,520 looks like 206 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,639 okay so now i got my xy setup 207 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:11,520 set up and um i'm just gonna go into 208 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,879 just a touch really quick 209 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:16,080 so an xy microphone setup is all you're 210 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,199 doing is you're putting 211 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:20,560 both microphones in the exact same place 212 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,759 but one's uh facing one direction 213 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:26,080 and one is at the same spot facing at a 214 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,879 90 degree angle at the other direction 215 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:30,400 and i'll give a close-up of what that 216 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,000 looks like in a minute 217 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,719 but for now just uh no what you're doing 218 00:08:34,719 --> 00:08:36,880 here is you're picking up a stereo field 219 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,919 but instead of 220 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,800 a stereo field in a sense of like if 221 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,880 your ear was right there 222 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,399 you're picking up all the sound from 223 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:46,320 this side as well as all the sound from 224 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,760 this side 225 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,600 and i'm just gonna play it so you can 226 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,040 hear what it sounds like 227 00:08:51,040 --> 00:09:01,730 and we'll go from there 228 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:22,870 [Music] 229 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,200 so there you have it that's an xy that's 230 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,720 what it sounds like 231 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,160 and i really like this uh setup 232 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,360 um personally i still prefer the ortf 233 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,560 over it that's spaced stereo pair but 234 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,320 say you have four microphones it's 235 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,080 not a bad idea to try this and then 236 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,000 blend all four mics together 237 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,240 but we don't all have that kind of setup 238 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,080 so keep it in mind maybe you'll like it 239 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,800 maybe you want 240 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,200 feel free to try these out move the mics 241 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,080 around a little bit 242 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,560 try different distances and if you have 243 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:53,600 any questions 244 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,040 leave a comment below and we'll make 245 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:15,430 sure to answer 246 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,519 you15853

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