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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,023 --> 00:00:05,652 There has been another arrest in the Mineola sex ring case. 2 00:00:05,653 --> 00:00:08,252 Today, a total of six men and women have now been arrested. 3 00:00:08,253 --> 00:00:09,652 Smith County police say 4 00:00:09,653 --> 00:00:13,292 they are accused of forcing four children, under the age of seven, 5 00:00:13,293 --> 00:00:15,023 to perform at a swingers' club. 6 00:00:23,023 --> 00:00:26,092 The brainwashing, that starts at a very young age. 7 00:00:26,093 --> 00:00:28,652 I wasn't just the only one that was scared to speak out. 8 00:00:28,653 --> 00:00:32,522 It felt like a cult. The fear that was instilled into us. 9 00:00:32,523 --> 00:00:36,193 Words cannot describe what these children have gone through. 10 00:00:36,923 --> 00:00:38,722 There is no case here. 11 00:00:38,723 --> 00:00:40,622 This is smoke and mirrors bull. 12 00:00:40,623 --> 00:00:42,352 You know, the defense just don't like the fact 13 00:00:42,353 --> 00:00:44,192 that their client got convicted and got a life sentence. 14 00:00:44,193 --> 00:00:45,752 I mean, let's call it what it is. 15 00:00:45,753 --> 00:00:49,192 I've called it just a plain old Texas frame-up. 16 00:00:49,193 --> 00:00:51,752 They basically took my childhood from me. 17 00:00:51,753 --> 00:00:53,823 They destroyed me and my family. 18 00:00:54,753 --> 00:00:56,923 They were guilty. 100%. 19 00:00:58,253 --> 00:01:02,292 I was told keep your mouth shut in this town. 20 00:01:02,293 --> 00:01:03,353 Don't make any waves. 21 00:01:04,493 --> 00:01:05,553 I made waves. 22 00:02:06,453 --> 00:02:08,253 This is taken in our driveway 23 00:02:09,753 --> 00:02:10,923 at Christmas. 24 00:02:16,753 --> 00:02:18,753 'Cause I love them so much 25 00:02:20,493 --> 00:02:22,023 and they've been so hurt. 26 00:02:36,993 --> 00:02:40,122 My husband John and I moved from California 27 00:02:40,123 --> 00:02:43,823 to Mineola, Texas in 2004. 28 00:02:44,723 --> 00:02:48,192 That town was so adorable. 29 00:02:48,193 --> 00:02:51,123 It was fabulous. We just fell in love. 30 00:02:52,823 --> 00:02:55,293 Mineola is a great little Texas town. 31 00:02:58,293 --> 00:03:00,393 It's quiet, relaxed living. 32 00:03:03,553 --> 00:03:06,023 It's a conservative community. 33 00:03:08,753 --> 00:03:11,252 Most of the people in Mineola are God-fearing people. 34 00:03:11,253 --> 00:03:13,893 I don't go to church every Sunday, but I'm a God-fearing man. 35 00:03:15,923 --> 00:03:20,122 The people here are absolutely wonderful. 36 00:03:20,123 --> 00:03:22,392 Mineola people will do anything 37 00:03:22,393 --> 00:03:24,823 to help their neighbors here in a heartbeat. 38 00:03:29,993 --> 00:03:30,993 It's not. 39 00:03:33,553 --> 00:03:37,123 When we first went there, it was wonderful. 40 00:03:38,393 --> 00:03:40,723 But then I started hearing stories. 41 00:03:43,253 --> 00:03:45,923 Its nickname, by the way, is Sodom and Gomorrah. 42 00:03:47,753 --> 00:03:48,893 Always has been. 43 00:03:51,893 --> 00:03:55,122 One day, I saw an article in the paper. 44 00:03:55,123 --> 00:03:57,822 Oh my gosh, this is just unbelievable. 45 00:03:57,823 --> 00:04:01,122 I didn't know we had a swingers' club in town. 46 00:04:01,123 --> 00:04:03,752 When we heard about the swingers' club it was a shock. 47 00:04:03,753 --> 00:04:05,553 People said, not in our neighborhood. 48 00:04:06,653 --> 00:04:10,022 We just couldn't believe that a swingers' club was here, 49 00:04:10,023 --> 00:04:12,193 'cause that's not us. 50 00:04:13,553 --> 00:04:17,122 {\an8}There was probably maybe 10 couples, and we played movies on the TV 51 00:04:17,123 --> 00:04:19,822 {\an8}and they all sit down and got to talking to each other 52 00:04:19,823 --> 00:04:22,892 and then they divided up and whoever wanted to go with whoever, 53 00:04:22,893 --> 00:04:23,893 that's what they did. 54 00:04:26,553 --> 00:04:29,192 We could imagine what was going on in there, 55 00:04:29,193 --> 00:04:30,393 but we weren't part of it. 56 00:04:31,123 --> 00:04:32,752 And it wasn't illegal. 57 00:04:32,753 --> 00:04:35,522 But to put a swingers' club around here 58 00:04:35,523 --> 00:04:39,252 is like rolling a stink bomb into a Baptist church 59 00:04:39,253 --> 00:04:42,652 and expecting everybody to just say, "Oh, that's okay," 60 00:04:42,653 --> 00:04:44,122 and keep on praying. 61 00:04:44,123 --> 00:04:49,923 For them to put it here was just, ugh. Make you grind your teeth. 62 00:04:53,653 --> 00:04:56,552 Because of the article in the newspaper, 63 00:04:56,553 --> 00:04:58,392 as a mom, I'm concerned, 64 00:04:58,393 --> 00:05:00,092 and I'm a praying woman, 65 00:05:00,093 --> 00:05:03,192 and so we drove up to the swingers' club. 66 00:05:03,193 --> 00:05:08,192 And we literally raised our hands toward that building 67 00:05:08,193 --> 00:05:12,453 and we prayed and we prayed and we prayed that it would get shut down. 68 00:05:14,023 --> 00:05:18,353 Right after that, it closed down. 69 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:21,822 It was like it went boom. 70 00:05:21,823 --> 00:05:24,823 It was here one day and gone the next. 71 00:05:26,553 --> 00:05:30,123 I was elated. They don't belong in this town. 72 00:05:33,623 --> 00:05:36,023 My husband, John, and I, we're Baptist. 73 00:05:37,353 --> 00:05:41,353 I accepted Christ when I was 12 years old as my savior. 74 00:05:42,453 --> 00:05:44,722 In California, I went to college. 75 00:05:44,723 --> 00:05:49,392 I got my administration in early childhood development. 76 00:05:49,393 --> 00:05:51,623 And I passed it with flying colors. 77 00:05:52,493 --> 00:05:55,192 And so I became a foster mom. 78 00:05:55,193 --> 00:05:58,452 When I started taking foster children, 79 00:05:58,453 --> 00:06:00,292 they were very troubled. 80 00:06:00,293 --> 00:06:03,622 And I had made a promise, don't give up on them. 81 00:06:03,623 --> 00:06:05,392 And that's what drove me. 82 00:06:05,393 --> 00:06:09,923 At one point, I was the mother of 15 teenagers at one time in the house. 83 00:06:10,823 --> 00:06:11,823 We loved it. 84 00:06:13,753 --> 00:06:16,622 But it was so hard. 85 00:06:16,623 --> 00:06:21,552 And so in 2004, we decided we could retire, 86 00:06:21,553 --> 00:06:24,653 pay off a house, and just start relaxing. 87 00:06:26,193 --> 00:06:30,293 And that's when we bought the house on Lake Brenda in Mineola. 88 00:06:31,653 --> 00:06:32,753 It was right on the lake. 89 00:06:33,923 --> 00:06:36,553 Just fish and retire, that was our goal. 90 00:06:38,753 --> 00:06:41,292 At the time, we had six children 91 00:06:41,293 --> 00:06:44,752 but then my son said, "You know, you're such a good mom." 92 00:06:44,753 --> 00:06:49,552 "Go help at least one or two more kids." And so I did. 93 00:06:49,553 --> 00:06:55,293 {\an8}And I was given Hunter, Shelby and Carly, to be my kids. 94 00:07:03,753 --> 00:07:07,392 Before Margie's, in the beginning, we were just kids. 95 00:07:07,393 --> 00:07:09,552 It was fun, we were happy. 96 00:07:09,553 --> 00:07:12,522 Happy birthday to you. 97 00:07:12,523 --> 00:07:13,722 I loved my cap guns. 98 00:07:13,723 --> 00:07:16,023 Used to play Cowboys and Indians with my older sister. 99 00:07:17,393 --> 00:07:19,823 We used to ride bikes with the kids down the street. 100 00:07:21,093 --> 00:07:24,753 There was nothing really that bad about being kids back then. 101 00:07:25,653 --> 00:07:27,993 But then things changed in our life. 102 00:07:28,923 --> 00:07:31,892 As a child, I don't remember my dad. 103 00:07:31,893 --> 00:07:36,353 I only remember my stepdad, Jamie, ever being around. 104 00:07:37,823 --> 00:07:41,492 Jamie and my mom would get into arguments. 105 00:07:41,493 --> 00:07:43,993 And sometimes, my mom would pass out. 106 00:07:46,123 --> 00:07:50,093 As kids, we didn't really understand the things between them. 107 00:07:51,393 --> 00:07:54,393 And then one day, I remember Child Services coming. 108 00:07:57,123 --> 00:08:00,722 The reason that we were given by the social worker, 109 00:08:00,723 --> 00:08:04,392 why they were taken away, was that they were neglected. 110 00:08:04,393 --> 00:08:07,522 The parents were on crack cocaine. 111 00:08:07,523 --> 00:08:10,823 And so I took them in because I wanted to help. 112 00:08:13,623 --> 00:08:15,392 I remember the drive to their house. 113 00:08:15,393 --> 00:08:19,022 I was constantly asking, so y'all live on the lake? 114 00:08:19,023 --> 00:08:22,752 Thinking they live in the middle of this lake that we're going to. 115 00:08:22,753 --> 00:08:25,493 And when we got there, the house was nice. 116 00:08:26,493 --> 00:08:27,553 The door's still broke. 117 00:08:31,923 --> 00:08:32,923 Oh, wow. 118 00:08:35,623 --> 00:08:36,653 This is different. 119 00:08:36,993 --> 00:08:37,893 It is. 120 00:08:37,894 --> 00:08:39,893 Remember that table, there. Long table. 121 00:08:40,923 --> 00:08:42,622 Carly is my little sister. 122 00:08:42,623 --> 00:08:44,653 I have always been protective of her. 123 00:08:45,753 --> 00:08:49,093 When I was at the Cantrells', I was very hyperactive. 124 00:08:49,823 --> 00:08:50,993 I was, like, four. 125 00:08:51,993 --> 00:08:53,492 So I was the baby. 126 00:08:53,493 --> 00:08:56,822 Everyone protected me, including Shelby and Hunter. 127 00:08:56,823 --> 00:08:59,523 I never thought I'd be back in the house. 128 00:09:00,523 --> 00:09:03,393 Shelby and Carly lived in this room here. 129 00:09:06,353 --> 00:09:08,923 It actually looks the exact same. 130 00:09:12,023 --> 00:09:15,192 Margie was fun and bubbly, 131 00:09:15,193 --> 00:09:20,992 kind of the mother type of personality that a kid would want. 132 00:09:20,993 --> 00:09:26,752 John Cantrell's personality was calming and laid back, 133 00:09:26,753 --> 00:09:30,123 but not as bubbly and open like Margie was. 134 00:09:33,123 --> 00:09:35,252 John did teach us how to fish. 135 00:09:35,253 --> 00:09:37,123 We used to watch westerns with him. 136 00:09:38,393 --> 00:09:42,492 Well, I used to wake up about 4:30 in the morning before school 137 00:09:42,493 --> 00:09:44,392 and go out and fish, 138 00:09:44,393 --> 00:09:45,992 just 'cause I liked the peace, 139 00:09:45,993 --> 00:09:48,123 and fishing was also a passion of mine. 140 00:09:53,753 --> 00:09:56,123 Well, at the time, life was okay. 141 00:09:57,393 --> 00:09:59,293 But they were very troubled. 142 00:10:00,193 --> 00:10:03,293 One day, Shelby was down in the bedroom 143 00:10:05,253 --> 00:10:09,623 and she had a pole on her bed and she was doing a pole dance. 144 00:10:11,993 --> 00:10:14,722 This is just a little seven-year-old girl. 145 00:10:14,723 --> 00:10:20,352 And she's swinging her hair around and she's doing... 146 00:10:20,353 --> 00:10:22,093 it looked like a rehearsed dance. 147 00:10:27,023 --> 00:10:28,453 Hunter was a handful. 148 00:10:30,193 --> 00:10:32,893 He was so angry and violent. 149 00:10:34,293 --> 00:10:39,892 They were extremely, extremely hard to handle children. 150 00:10:39,893 --> 00:10:43,822 Very young and very, very broken. 151 00:10:43,823 --> 00:10:46,123 But we had promised to stand by these kids. 152 00:10:48,253 --> 00:10:52,623 At that point, I had nine children in the home. 153 00:10:54,993 --> 00:10:58,092 And so, I thought, if we buy a facility, 154 00:10:58,093 --> 00:11:02,523 we can put the kids there and I can run it and have a good group home. 155 00:11:04,093 --> 00:11:06,822 So I called our real estate agent 156 00:11:06,823 --> 00:11:10,193 and told her that I was interested in a property in town. 157 00:11:11,893 --> 00:11:15,923 But this building was in fact the swingers' club. 158 00:11:17,393 --> 00:11:20,493 The lot was really large that it sat on. 159 00:11:21,293 --> 00:11:23,392 So we decided we were going to go up 160 00:11:23,393 --> 00:11:25,293 and see if we could see in the windows. 161 00:11:26,393 --> 00:11:28,552 When Margie took me to the swingers' club, 162 00:11:28,553 --> 00:11:31,623 she told us that she was thinking about buying the place. 163 00:11:34,893 --> 00:11:36,392 Last time I was in this building, 164 00:11:36,393 --> 00:11:39,523 I think I was, like, eight years old. 165 00:11:41,123 --> 00:11:42,553 My sisters were with me, 166 00:11:44,293 --> 00:11:45,993 John and Margie. 167 00:11:48,753 --> 00:11:51,753 It's pretty hard to be in here considering what happened. 168 00:12:00,193 --> 00:12:03,652 It was wet and moldy and stunk. 169 00:12:03,653 --> 00:12:04,823 It was nasty. 170 00:12:05,923 --> 00:12:07,753 So I wouldn't let the kids go anywhere. 171 00:12:08,753 --> 00:12:13,022 And Hunter, Shelby and I stayed by the door. 172 00:12:13,023 --> 00:12:16,193 And then all of a sudden, Shelby said, "I know this place." 173 00:12:17,653 --> 00:12:21,523 "You know, if you could see in that room over there," 174 00:12:22,623 --> 00:12:25,123 "it has big white flowers with green leaves." 175 00:12:26,453 --> 00:12:28,023 So I said, "Hunter, open the door." 176 00:12:41,393 --> 00:12:44,252 She said, "Mom, that's where I had to dance." 177 00:12:44,253 --> 00:12:46,822 "And you see that part that goes like this?" 178 00:12:46,823 --> 00:12:49,292 "There was a curtain on it and Jamie was back there," 179 00:12:49,293 --> 00:12:52,723 "and I when I danced, I had to go back and give him the money." 180 00:12:58,393 --> 00:13:01,193 I just froze. I just froze. 181 00:13:02,523 --> 00:13:04,752 And then Hunter, when we were leaving, said, 182 00:13:04,753 --> 00:13:07,753 "If you look over by the big tree, my ball is there." 183 00:13:09,193 --> 00:13:10,823 And that baby's ball was there. 184 00:13:11,923 --> 00:13:13,123 I called the social worker. 185 00:13:14,723 --> 00:13:17,453 She said, "Get them to the police department immediately." 186 00:13:22,693 --> 00:13:24,792 When I got to the police department, 187 00:13:24,793 --> 00:13:27,223 I filled out what had just happened. 188 00:13:30,323 --> 00:13:34,053 After I wrote my report out, they talked to the kids. 189 00:13:37,193 --> 00:13:43,323 {\an8}They told the police that there was a room called Jamie Pittman's room, 190 00:13:44,493 --> 00:13:47,822 that they did dances and acts 191 00:13:47,823 --> 00:13:51,052 and their mother, Shauntel, would be there. 192 00:13:51,053 --> 00:13:56,692 And they said that they were trained in a kindergarten. 193 00:13:56,693 --> 00:14:01,053 My knowledge of a kindergarten is kindergarten, school. 194 00:14:02,423 --> 00:14:03,952 But it wasn't. 195 00:14:03,953 --> 00:14:07,023 It was a grooming place. 196 00:14:12,553 --> 00:14:14,422 I would think that a police department 197 00:14:14,423 --> 00:14:18,493 would go in with all barrels and investigate. 198 00:14:20,853 --> 00:14:24,323 And then I found out that within two days 199 00:14:25,223 --> 00:14:26,323 they closed the case. 200 00:14:29,693 --> 00:14:32,852 To just go to Shauntel and Jamie's trailer 201 00:14:32,853 --> 00:14:34,792 and say, "Well, didn't happen," 202 00:14:34,793 --> 00:14:36,953 it was like calling the children a liar. 203 00:14:38,023 --> 00:14:40,823 And they heard everything from the kids. 204 00:14:41,953 --> 00:14:43,593 The same outcries. 205 00:14:45,123 --> 00:14:47,123 But the Mineola Police closed it. 206 00:14:48,653 --> 00:14:50,792 How dare them? 207 00:14:50,793 --> 00:14:53,593 That put a million red flags in my mind. 208 00:15:01,323 --> 00:15:03,652 {\an8}The first time I heard about this case, 209 00:15:03,653 --> 00:15:05,322 {\an8}I thought, oh my God. This is going on. 210 00:15:05,323 --> 00:15:08,422 {\an8}This incredible child sex scandal. 211 00:15:08,423 --> 00:15:11,922 These parents had taken these kids to the swingers' club 212 00:15:11,923 --> 00:15:13,493 and they danced on stage for money. 213 00:15:14,653 --> 00:15:16,593 We need to really look into this. 214 00:15:18,323 --> 00:15:19,853 Mineola is in Wood County 215 00:15:21,123 --> 00:15:24,422 and Tyler, which is a large city, is very close, 216 00:15:24,423 --> 00:15:25,753 but it's in Smith County. 217 00:15:27,953 --> 00:15:31,592 There is a real difference in Smith County law enforcement 218 00:15:31,593 --> 00:15:33,852 as opposed to Wood County law enforcement. 219 00:15:33,853 --> 00:15:36,192 All counties in Texas are very conservative 220 00:15:36,193 --> 00:15:37,852 when it comes to law and order, 221 00:15:37,853 --> 00:15:41,552 but no county is more conservative than Smith County. 222 00:15:41,553 --> 00:15:43,292 It has a long-time reputation 223 00:15:43,293 --> 00:15:45,422 for throwing the book at criminals, 224 00:15:45,423 --> 00:15:48,652 for prosecuting hard, for investigating hard, 225 00:15:48,653 --> 00:15:51,052 for having a very high conviction rate. 226 00:15:51,053 --> 00:15:52,792 And so when the Mineola Police Department 227 00:15:52,793 --> 00:15:55,492 didn't pursue the investigation any further, 228 00:15:55,493 --> 00:15:57,392 Margie wanted something done about it. 229 00:15:57,393 --> 00:15:59,122 If the Mineola cops weren't going to listen to her, 230 00:15:59,123 --> 00:16:01,052 she was going to find somebody who would. 231 00:16:01,053 --> 00:16:04,123 So Margie decides to go to Smith County. 232 00:16:05,693 --> 00:16:09,192 And the Smith County DA's office had an assistant district attorney 233 00:16:09,193 --> 00:16:13,422 who handled nothing but child cases 234 00:16:13,423 --> 00:16:15,052 and her name was Tiffany Wickel. 235 00:16:15,053 --> 00:16:17,222 She had been part of the team 236 00:16:17,223 --> 00:16:21,052 that had taken Hunter and Shelby away from their mother. 237 00:16:21,053 --> 00:16:27,792 So when she heard about what Margie was saying, she became very alarmed. 238 00:16:27,793 --> 00:16:33,952 She came to the Mineola police department and basically tore them up. 239 00:16:33,953 --> 00:16:37,422 Listen to these outcries of these children 240 00:16:37,423 --> 00:16:39,193 and what is going on. 241 00:16:40,793 --> 00:16:41,952 And within two weeks, 242 00:16:41,953 --> 00:16:44,153 Tiffany Wickel had brought in Texas Ranger Phillip Kemp. 243 00:16:45,193 --> 00:16:46,852 Tiffany called me and said, 244 00:16:46,853 --> 00:16:51,652 "You need to bring the children to Smith County" 245 00:16:51,653 --> 00:16:55,053 "because the Texas Ranger wants to come and meet the children." 246 00:17:23,423 --> 00:17:25,552 Ranger Kemp was very nice. 247 00:17:25,553 --> 00:17:27,853 He was very good with the children. 248 00:17:31,123 --> 00:17:33,822 And he said, "And all I want you to do is just be there," 249 00:17:33,823 --> 00:17:36,222 "comfort them, you know," 250 00:17:36,223 --> 00:17:39,853 "walk them through it, you know, it's okay." That's what mommies do. 251 00:17:47,123 --> 00:17:49,422 When I first met Ranger Kemp, 252 00:17:49,423 --> 00:17:52,192 he came in with a cowboy hat and a gun. 253 00:17:52,193 --> 00:17:56,293 Cowboy looking dude. Sheriff looking guy from a Western or something. 254 00:17:58,023 --> 00:18:02,123 It was a little more exciting than I'd probably like to admit. 255 00:19:39,193 --> 00:19:42,922 It's a bit confusing, the folks involved in this. 256 00:19:42,923 --> 00:19:46,922 And let me start at the top with the eldest of all the people involved, 257 00:19:46,923 --> 00:19:47,953 which is Shelia Sones. 258 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:52,853 And Shelia is Carly's grandmother. 259 00:20:50,693 --> 00:20:55,423 {\an8}Carly's grandmother, Shelia, was married to Jimmy. 260 00:21:21,693 --> 00:21:24,292 Booger Red was the nickname of Patrick Kelly. 261 00:21:24,293 --> 00:21:26,122 He was friends with Shauntel and Jamie 262 00:21:26,123 --> 00:21:29,692 and they'd hang out together at his trailer in Tyler. 263 00:21:29,693 --> 00:21:32,222 And it was in this trailer where, apparently, 264 00:21:32,223 --> 00:21:34,123 the sex kindergarten had taken place. 265 00:22:08,993 --> 00:22:12,722 Ranger Kemp's investigation uncovered a sex kindergarten 266 00:22:12,723 --> 00:22:14,592 in Tyler 267 00:22:14,593 --> 00:22:19,992 run by Shelia, Jimmy, Jamie Pittman, Booger Red 268 00:22:19,993 --> 00:22:21,523 and Shauntel. 269 00:22:22,353 --> 00:22:24,222 These kids had been indoctrinated 270 00:22:24,223 --> 00:22:25,792 into this sex kindergarten 271 00:22:25,793 --> 00:22:28,352 and then they had come up to Mineola 272 00:22:28,353 --> 00:22:30,223 and they had danced onstage for money. 273 00:22:31,493 --> 00:22:32,592 In these interviews, 274 00:22:32,593 --> 00:22:35,992 these kids increasingly told more and more things 275 00:22:35,993 --> 00:22:37,253 about what happened. 276 00:23:07,423 --> 00:23:09,522 This was one of the last times 277 00:23:09,523 --> 00:23:12,492 I actually ever saw my parents 278 00:23:12,493 --> 00:23:14,523 before I went into foster care. 279 00:23:15,723 --> 00:23:18,492 {\an8}My parents were Shelia Sones and Jimmy Sones. 280 00:23:18,493 --> 00:23:20,792 {\an8}Shauntel is my sister. 281 00:23:20,793 --> 00:23:23,852 {\an8}And Jamie Pittman was Shauntel's boyfriend. 282 00:23:23,853 --> 00:23:27,052 {\an8}Shauntel has three children, the oldest being Shelby, 283 00:23:27,053 --> 00:23:28,522 {\an8}the middle being Hunter 284 00:23:28,523 --> 00:23:30,692 {\an8}and then the youngest is Carly. 285 00:23:30,693 --> 00:23:33,052 {\an8}I considered them my siblings. 286 00:23:33,053 --> 00:23:34,852 {\an8}We were the same age. 287 00:23:34,853 --> 00:23:37,092 {\an8}We didn't have the relationship of 288 00:23:37,093 --> 00:23:38,422 {\an8}"Oh, that's my niece." 289 00:23:38,423 --> 00:23:41,692 {\an8}It was more than that. We were raised together. 290 00:23:41,693 --> 00:23:45,092 And we called each other brother and sister all the time, 291 00:23:45,093 --> 00:23:46,492 but they got to live together 292 00:23:46,493 --> 00:23:47,792 and I didn't get to be with them. 293 00:23:47,793 --> 00:23:49,523 And I never understood that. 294 00:23:52,793 --> 00:23:54,893 I was seven years old. 295 00:23:55,353 --> 00:23:57,522 I was in gym class 296 00:23:57,523 --> 00:24:00,722 and I remember them calling me over the intercom 297 00:24:00,723 --> 00:24:02,792 to come to the principal's office. 298 00:24:02,793 --> 00:24:06,092 So, you know, I'm sittin' here thinking I did something wrong. 299 00:24:06,093 --> 00:24:08,252 So, I went to the principal's office 300 00:24:08,253 --> 00:24:12,153 and that's when a CPS worker came to pick me up. 301 00:24:13,793 --> 00:24:16,093 She took me to the Child Advocacy Center. 302 00:24:18,953 --> 00:24:22,153 That's when all of the questioning with Ranger Kemp started. 303 00:24:36,493 --> 00:24:38,522 My first impression of Ranger Kemp 304 00:24:38,523 --> 00:24:41,352 was a little intimidated. 305 00:24:41,353 --> 00:24:44,622 He was a big man with a gun and a badge. 306 00:24:44,623 --> 00:24:47,252 And he had a presence about him 307 00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:49,152 that, yeah, he was soft and easygoing, 308 00:24:49,153 --> 00:24:51,423 but it was also like... 309 00:24:51,793 --> 00:24:52,953 demanded respect. 310 00:26:26,423 --> 00:26:29,892 {\an8}Shortly thereafter, Kemp brings the first indictment 311 00:26:29,893 --> 00:26:33,423 {\an8}to a Smith County grand Jury on Shelia Sones. 312 00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:36,122 And in short order, 313 00:26:36,123 --> 00:26:37,892 Shelia is arrested, 314 00:26:37,893 --> 00:26:39,722 Gabby's put into foster care 315 00:26:39,723 --> 00:26:42,053 and then, not long after that, 316 00:26:42,953 --> 00:26:44,122 Jimmy, 317 00:26:44,123 --> 00:26:45,892 Booger Red, 318 00:26:45,893 --> 00:26:47,722 Jamie Pittman 319 00:26:47,723 --> 00:26:49,492 and Shauntel 320 00:26:49,493 --> 00:26:50,953 are also arrested. 321 00:26:52,123 --> 00:26:55,122 And the another man, Dennis Pittman. 322 00:26:55,123 --> 00:26:57,592 He wasn't related to Jamie Pittman, 323 00:26:57,593 --> 00:26:59,793 but he was friends with Shauntel and Jamie. 324 00:27:01,523 --> 00:27:04,153 This was huge news right away. 325 00:27:05,723 --> 00:27:08,622 {\an8}Mineola was such a big part of my childhood. 326 00:27:08,623 --> 00:27:10,623 {\an8}So I was assigned that case. 327 00:27:11,353 --> 00:27:12,892 {\an8}It was a huge story. 328 00:27:12,893 --> 00:27:15,352 You know, as a reporter, you try to remain impartial, 329 00:27:15,353 --> 00:27:16,852 but the personal side of me, 330 00:27:16,853 --> 00:27:18,892 I was really upset about it. 331 00:27:18,893 --> 00:27:20,252 It blew our minds. 332 00:27:20,253 --> 00:27:23,323 It was just insanity, the things that we heard. 333 00:27:26,093 --> 00:27:28,622 So I was very thankful that Smith County 334 00:27:28,623 --> 00:27:29,952 actually stepped up to the plate. 335 00:27:29,953 --> 00:27:31,833 They did something that Wood County wouldn't do. 336 00:27:34,153 --> 00:27:36,522 The public was outraged. 337 00:27:36,523 --> 00:27:38,952 People in the community thought these parents 338 00:27:38,953 --> 00:27:41,723 were the lowest-type people on the earth. 339 00:27:43,523 --> 00:27:45,323 What they did was unforgivable. 340 00:27:50,053 --> 00:27:52,692 We heard they were grooming the underage kids. 341 00:27:52,693 --> 00:27:54,152 We were really, really shocked 342 00:27:54,153 --> 00:27:55,692 about what was happening in that town. 343 00:27:55,693 --> 00:27:56,853 And they kept it such a secret 344 00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:00,493 that no one in town knew anything about it. 345 00:28:01,523 --> 00:28:03,892 I first learned about it in Iraq. 346 00:28:03,893 --> 00:28:06,393 It was published in the Stars and Stripes there. 347 00:28:07,323 --> 00:28:10,052 And in bold, "Mineola Swinger's Club" 348 00:28:10,053 --> 00:28:13,152 and described a big criminal case 349 00:28:13,153 --> 00:28:14,762 about people molesting children, 350 00:28:14,763 --> 00:28:18,352 having them perform on a pole 351 00:28:18,353 --> 00:28:19,623 and perform sex acts. 352 00:28:31,053 --> 00:28:33,792 I had never been to Mineola before I worked on this story. 353 00:28:33,793 --> 00:28:36,053 You feel like you are going back in time. 354 00:28:37,493 --> 00:28:39,622 You see the two sides of the tracks 355 00:28:39,623 --> 00:28:41,352 where you literally cross the railroad tracks 356 00:28:41,353 --> 00:28:43,693 and you are on the poor side of town. 357 00:28:45,693 --> 00:28:48,862 Trailer parks are everywhere. They're communities. 358 00:28:48,863 --> 00:28:51,622 {\an8}They're like little villages, little hamlets 359 00:28:51,623 --> 00:28:52,863 {\an8}on the outskirts of town. 360 00:28:54,053 --> 00:28:56,992 However, John and Margie lived in a house 361 00:28:56,993 --> 00:29:00,323 on that little lake just north of town. 362 00:29:01,393 --> 00:29:02,792 From what I've seen, 363 00:29:02,793 --> 00:29:05,322 they were, at first, welcomed with open arms. 364 00:29:05,323 --> 00:29:07,522 They were conservative Christians. 365 00:29:07,523 --> 00:29:10,762 They were career foster parents back in California. 366 00:29:10,763 --> 00:29:13,892 They were career foster parents here in Texas. 367 00:29:13,893 --> 00:29:16,862 They had their hearts in the right place. 368 00:29:16,863 --> 00:29:19,862 {\an8}When I met Margie, the first ten seconds, 369 00:29:19,863 --> 00:29:22,323 {\an8}she comes across as very personable. 370 00:29:23,523 --> 00:29:27,692 And somewhere around the 15-minute mark, 371 00:29:27,693 --> 00:29:28,892 you begin to understand 372 00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:31,053 you're never gonna get a word in edgewise. 373 00:29:31,863 --> 00:29:34,692 And then, uh, at the 30-minute mark, 374 00:29:34,693 --> 00:29:36,692 you've heard about all you wanna hear. 375 00:29:36,693 --> 00:29:39,693 That was kind of my introduction to Margie. 376 00:29:42,953 --> 00:29:45,222 One day, my news director really pushed me 377 00:29:45,223 --> 00:29:47,422 {\an8}to go and talk to Margie Cantrell. 378 00:29:47,423 --> 00:29:48,762 {\an8}And I thought there's no way 379 00:29:48,763 --> 00:29:50,693 {\an8}that this woman is actually going to talk. 380 00:29:53,593 --> 00:29:55,953 But we went out to Lake Brenda. 381 00:29:59,623 --> 00:30:03,153 Lake Brenda is one of the nicest areas in East Texas. 382 00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:08,252 And I went up to Margie's door and knocked, 383 00:30:08,253 --> 00:30:09,592 and to my surprise, 384 00:30:09,593 --> 00:30:11,123 she opened the door 385 00:30:11,623 --> 00:30:13,422 and she welcomed us in. 386 00:30:13,423 --> 00:30:15,692 I remember their house was so beautiful. 387 00:30:15,693 --> 00:30:16,792 I mean, it was huge. 388 00:30:16,793 --> 00:30:18,592 These children had lived in a trailer 389 00:30:18,593 --> 00:30:20,622 and now they had this beautiful house. 390 00:30:20,623 --> 00:30:22,692 And it felt like it was just 391 00:30:22,693 --> 00:30:25,352 this perfect portrait of a home. 392 00:30:25,353 --> 00:30:28,252 I sit down on the couch and John was there, 393 00:30:28,253 --> 00:30:31,152 but he was just quietly in the background. 394 00:30:31,153 --> 00:30:32,522 He just didn't say a lot. 395 00:30:32,523 --> 00:30:34,152 I did try to talk to him a few times, 396 00:30:34,153 --> 00:30:35,892 but you just couldn't get anything out of him. 397 00:30:35,893 --> 00:30:38,123 He was pretty much like a wall in a lot of ways. 398 00:30:39,423 --> 00:30:43,123 Whereas Margie was so engaging and personable. 399 00:30:44,053 --> 00:30:45,952 All of times, in those kinds of situations, 400 00:30:45,953 --> 00:30:48,222 you do everything you can to pull something out 401 00:30:48,223 --> 00:30:49,322 and gain trust 402 00:30:49,323 --> 00:30:51,152 and want somebody to open up to you, 403 00:30:51,153 --> 00:30:53,252 but she was so open 404 00:30:53,253 --> 00:30:55,152 about everything the children had been through 405 00:30:55,153 --> 00:30:57,253 and how terrible this was. 406 00:30:57,863 --> 00:30:58,952 I became thankful 407 00:30:58,953 --> 00:31:01,053 that this woman was helping these children. 408 00:31:06,393 --> 00:31:07,992 And leading up to the trial, 409 00:31:07,993 --> 00:31:10,352 I remember it feeling almost like a Super Bowl 410 00:31:10,353 --> 00:31:12,863 because there was just so much tension. 411 00:31:13,993 --> 00:31:15,052 The heartbeat of the town 412 00:31:15,053 --> 00:31:16,892 was that finally these children 413 00:31:16,893 --> 00:31:18,152 were going to get justice, 414 00:31:18,153 --> 00:31:19,522 and finally these defendants 415 00:31:19,523 --> 00:31:21,793 were gonna be put away forever. 416 00:31:32,393 --> 00:31:33,762 The 36-year-old Pittman 417 00:31:33,763 --> 00:31:35,792 is accused of forcing young children 418 00:31:35,793 --> 00:31:37,622 under the age of seven 419 00:31:37,623 --> 00:31:40,523 to have sex with each other and adults. 420 00:31:41,893 --> 00:31:43,252 Jack Skeen is the judge. 421 00:31:43,253 --> 00:31:47,052 You did not mess around with crime in Smith County 422 00:31:47,053 --> 00:31:49,793 because Jack Skeen would go after you. 423 00:31:51,153 --> 00:31:54,622 Matt Bingham is the elected district attorney of Smith County. 424 00:31:54,623 --> 00:31:58,152 Am I an aggressive prosecutor of crimes against children? 425 00:31:58,153 --> 00:31:59,422 You better believe it. 426 00:31:59,423 --> 00:32:02,252 And he gave one of his trusted guys, Joe Murphy, 427 00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:03,692 the lead on this case. 428 00:32:03,693 --> 00:32:04,992 Words cannot describe 429 00:32:04,993 --> 00:32:07,892 what these children have gone through. 430 00:32:07,893 --> 00:32:09,522 Uh, words cannot describe 431 00:32:09,523 --> 00:32:12,792 the actions of not only Jamie Pittman, 432 00:32:12,793 --> 00:32:15,522 but all the other people that are involved in this case. 433 00:32:15,523 --> 00:32:17,522 I sat in the courtroom every single day 434 00:32:17,523 --> 00:32:20,153 and the mood was very tense. 435 00:32:21,423 --> 00:32:22,353 Margie was in the courtroom. 436 00:32:22,354 --> 00:32:24,052 You know, she was a big part of... 437 00:32:24,053 --> 00:32:26,622 I say the word "spectacle" and I hate to even say that, 438 00:32:26,623 --> 00:32:28,122 but that's what it was in a lot of ways. 439 00:32:28,123 --> 00:32:29,792 Exhibit number 20. 440 00:32:29,793 --> 00:32:31,522 What is this? 441 00:32:31,523 --> 00:32:32,892 During the trial, 442 00:32:32,893 --> 00:32:35,623 Ranger Kemp came in and testified. 443 00:32:37,053 --> 00:32:38,592 And do all these outcries match? 444 00:32:38,593 --> 00:32:39,523 Yes, they do. 445 00:32:39,524 --> 00:32:40,792 Not only do you have that, 446 00:32:40,793 --> 00:32:43,792 do you have the existence of a swingers club? 447 00:32:43,793 --> 00:32:44,693 Yes, you do. 448 00:32:44,694 --> 00:32:46,952 He was entirely unflappable. 449 00:32:46,953 --> 00:32:49,993 He was very calm and very cool. 450 00:32:51,623 --> 00:32:54,253 And they showed the interviews with the children. 451 00:33:05,763 --> 00:33:09,153 The prosecution's case was the testimony of the children. 452 00:33:09,623 --> 00:33:11,393 So they all testified. 453 00:33:16,153 --> 00:33:17,252 They would open the doors 454 00:33:17,253 --> 00:33:18,692 and the kids would just come out 455 00:33:18,693 --> 00:33:21,253 and they were just so adorable. 456 00:33:23,793 --> 00:33:26,353 You just couldn't imagine what they went through. 457 00:33:27,153 --> 00:33:29,422 The girl worked here. 458 00:33:29,423 --> 00:33:32,052 On the stand, she testified of what it looked like, 459 00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:34,222 describing the flowers on the wall, 460 00:33:34,223 --> 00:33:35,952 saying it's what she would look at 461 00:33:35,953 --> 00:33:38,523 while being raped night after night. 462 00:33:39,693 --> 00:33:44,053 They said, in return, they got to eat dinner. 463 00:33:47,223 --> 00:33:48,322 During the first trial, 464 00:33:48,323 --> 00:33:50,322 I was maybe seven, maybe eight. 465 00:33:50,323 --> 00:33:52,622 I was stressed out. 466 00:33:52,623 --> 00:33:54,153 I was full of anxiety. 467 00:33:57,863 --> 00:34:00,992 I'm looking around and I'm seeing all of these people, 468 00:34:00,993 --> 00:34:03,692 the man in the big black robe, 469 00:34:03,693 --> 00:34:06,692 the news media was there, there was cameras. 470 00:34:06,693 --> 00:34:09,053 It was just an overwhelming experience. 471 00:34:10,523 --> 00:34:13,322 When I saw Jamie Pittman sitting there, 472 00:34:13,323 --> 00:34:15,052 I remember he looked sad. 473 00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:18,793 And I remember testifying and I... 474 00:34:19,993 --> 00:34:21,623 had no remorse. 475 00:34:28,423 --> 00:34:31,523 The trial of Jamie Pittman only lasted three days. 476 00:34:32,523 --> 00:34:35,623 And the jury came to its decision very quickly. 477 00:34:37,523 --> 00:34:39,392 When we went into the courtroom 478 00:34:39,393 --> 00:34:41,393 to hear the verdicts, 479 00:34:42,153 --> 00:34:43,222 the kids were saying, 480 00:34:43,223 --> 00:34:46,862 "It just has to be, it has to be, it has to be." 481 00:34:46,863 --> 00:34:50,353 They wanted this with all their heart and soul. 482 00:34:53,523 --> 00:34:55,252 It took less than ten minutes 483 00:34:55,253 --> 00:34:59,792 for a Smith County jury to find Jamie Pittman guilty. 484 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:01,693 And the kids went, "Yes!" 485 00:35:04,253 --> 00:35:06,793 They felt very vindicated. 486 00:35:17,863 --> 00:35:19,622 On Monday, Pittman's girlfriend 487 00:35:19,623 --> 00:35:22,892 will be the second defendant to face a Smith County jury. 488 00:35:22,893 --> 00:35:25,422 29-year-old Shauntel Loraine Mayo 489 00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:28,223 is charged with child sexual abuse. 490 00:35:34,693 --> 00:35:36,762 Shauntel was gonna be the big case, 491 00:35:36,763 --> 00:35:39,392 because this was the mother. 492 00:35:39,393 --> 00:35:41,392 People wanted to understand how in the world 493 00:35:41,393 --> 00:35:44,052 this woman could have these precious children 494 00:35:44,053 --> 00:35:46,223 and do something like this. 495 00:35:48,423 --> 00:35:50,892 My name is Ellen Gayle Burress. 496 00:35:50,893 --> 00:35:52,792 I have a Bachelor of Arts, 497 00:35:52,793 --> 00:35:54,152 a Master's of Science 498 00:35:54,153 --> 00:35:55,622 and a PhD. 499 00:35:55,623 --> 00:35:58,422 And until I stopped practicing, 500 00:35:58,423 --> 00:36:00,693 I was a licensed professional counselor 501 00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:03,353 and expert witness. 502 00:36:06,123 --> 00:36:08,322 Everything I saw about those kids 503 00:36:08,323 --> 00:36:10,053 talked to me about damage, 504 00:36:10,493 --> 00:36:11,692 about fear, 505 00:36:11,693 --> 00:36:12,693 and a couple of 'em, 506 00:36:12,993 --> 00:36:14,593 there was real... 507 00:36:15,153 --> 00:36:16,422 shame. 508 00:36:16,423 --> 00:36:18,252 Were you able to determine whether or not 509 00:36:18,253 --> 00:36:20,892 there was any type of grooming that was involved 510 00:36:20,893 --> 00:36:22,622 with these children? 511 00:36:22,623 --> 00:36:25,792 Well, obviously, kindergarten was the grooming spot, 512 00:36:25,793 --> 00:36:30,622 in terms of getting them ready to do in front of others 513 00:36:30,623 --> 00:36:32,522 what they wanted them to do. 514 00:36:32,523 --> 00:36:34,052 They had to teach them to dance. 515 00:36:34,053 --> 00:36:36,052 They had to teach them to touch each other 516 00:36:36,053 --> 00:36:37,322 and masturbate 517 00:36:37,323 --> 00:36:39,392 and take off their clothes 518 00:36:39,393 --> 00:36:41,152 and act sexy, 519 00:36:41,153 --> 00:36:44,423 because 5-year-olds don't act sexy. 520 00:36:46,523 --> 00:36:48,892 By the time that it had gotten to my sister 521 00:36:48,893 --> 00:36:49,952 Shauntel's trial, 522 00:36:49,953 --> 00:36:52,692 I had already been questioned a million times. 523 00:36:52,693 --> 00:36:55,522 I had already gone over the testimony a million times. 524 00:36:55,523 --> 00:36:57,052 I was tired of it. 525 00:36:57,053 --> 00:36:59,052 I was... I was ready to quit. 526 00:36:59,053 --> 00:37:00,762 I didn't wanna do it anymore. 527 00:37:00,763 --> 00:37:04,522 But, you know, I still kept being hounded with 528 00:37:04,523 --> 00:37:06,392 "Well, you have to do this. You have to do this. 529 00:37:06,393 --> 00:37:08,153 You have to get justice for the others." 530 00:37:09,153 --> 00:37:10,422 When Gabby took the stand, 531 00:37:10,423 --> 00:37:11,762 she admitted that, yes, 532 00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:14,892 that she had been to the Mineola swingers club. 533 00:37:14,893 --> 00:37:17,152 And she said that she took "silly pills" there, 534 00:37:17,153 --> 00:37:19,422 she went to kindergarten, that she performed 535 00:37:19,423 --> 00:37:22,252 and she identified her own sister, Shauntel, 536 00:37:22,253 --> 00:37:23,863 as being someone that took her there. 537 00:37:27,223 --> 00:37:30,152 I remember my sister sitting there 538 00:37:30,153 --> 00:37:31,992 by her lawyer and she was just bawling. 539 00:37:31,993 --> 00:37:33,053 She was just... 540 00:37:37,763 --> 00:37:39,253 She was just crying. 541 00:37:40,123 --> 00:37:41,993 And I still remember... 542 00:37:42,693 --> 00:37:44,123 not caring. 543 00:37:56,353 --> 00:37:57,992 Seeing my mom in the courtroom, 544 00:37:57,993 --> 00:38:01,453 I'm not even sure I recognized her. 545 00:38:57,823 --> 00:39:00,922 I ask you to find her guilty of what she's guilty of, 546 00:39:00,923 --> 00:39:04,192 engaging in organized criminal activity for profit 547 00:39:04,193 --> 00:39:06,452 with her own children. 548 00:39:06,453 --> 00:39:08,992 The jury deliberated for two hours. 549 00:39:08,993 --> 00:39:10,352 We, the jury, 550 00:39:10,353 --> 00:39:12,552 find the defendant, Shauntel Mayo, 551 00:39:12,553 --> 00:39:14,192 guilty of the offence. 552 00:39:14,193 --> 00:39:15,993 It was guilty right away. 553 00:39:37,453 --> 00:39:39,292 When the verdicts were read out, 554 00:39:39,293 --> 00:39:41,992 we had absolutely no emotion, you know. 555 00:39:41,993 --> 00:39:47,353 It wasn't as if they were really a family to us anymore. 556 00:39:51,823 --> 00:39:53,992 When Shauntel Mayo was found guilty, 557 00:39:53,993 --> 00:39:55,622 it was a relief for a lot of people. 558 00:39:55,623 --> 00:39:57,992 I think a lot of people were thankful 559 00:39:57,993 --> 00:39:59,822 and that these bad people 560 00:39:59,823 --> 00:40:01,292 who did these horrible things to kids 561 00:40:01,293 --> 00:40:02,823 were gonna be locked away. 562 00:40:05,353 --> 00:40:08,252 News from the Mineola Swingers Club case. 563 00:40:08,253 --> 00:40:11,452 Jury selection for the trial of Patrick "Booger Red" Kelly, 564 00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:13,922 a friend of Shauntel Mayo and Jamie Pittman, 565 00:40:13,923 --> 00:40:16,093 is due to begin early next week. 566 00:40:22,823 --> 00:40:25,092 Booger Red, Patrick Kelly, 567 00:40:25,093 --> 00:40:27,692 was the one who had the trailer where, apparently, 568 00:40:27,693 --> 00:40:30,193 the sex kindergarten had taken place. 569 00:41:03,723 --> 00:41:06,522 So what they said is they would first go to kindergarten 570 00:41:06,523 --> 00:41:07,822 {\an8}and get these dolls 571 00:41:07,823 --> 00:41:11,192 {\an8}and learn how to touch themselves in different ways. 572 00:41:11,193 --> 00:41:13,422 They would put on costumes and doctor costumes 573 00:41:13,423 --> 00:41:14,653 and would go out and perform. 574 00:41:52,193 --> 00:41:54,622 The things that the kids had said about Patrick Kelly 575 00:41:54,623 --> 00:41:55,922 were sensational 576 00:41:55,923 --> 00:41:58,553 and dominated the headlines before the trial. 577 00:41:59,093 --> 00:42:00,822 But during jury selection, 578 00:42:00,823 --> 00:42:02,453 there was a massive bombshell. 579 00:42:04,063 --> 00:42:07,792 The Wood County Sheriffs came in the front door 580 00:42:07,793 --> 00:42:10,252 and barraged on my husband John, 581 00:42:10,253 --> 00:42:11,692 grabbed him up, 582 00:42:11,693 --> 00:42:12,822 ran him out of the house. 583 00:42:12,823 --> 00:42:14,292 We're like, "What is going on? 584 00:42:14,293 --> 00:42:16,652 What is going on?" 585 00:42:16,653 --> 00:42:17,692 John Cantrell, 586 00:42:17,693 --> 00:42:19,922 a man awarded custody of three young siblings 587 00:42:19,923 --> 00:42:22,292 who allegedly performed at the swingers club 588 00:42:22,293 --> 00:42:25,092 was arrested in Wood County. 589 00:42:25,093 --> 00:42:27,992 They were arresting him for molesting his daughter 590 00:42:27,993 --> 00:42:30,823 20 years ago back in California. 591 00:42:36,893 --> 00:42:40,723 How would you describe John Cantrell's personality? 592 00:42:42,553 --> 00:42:45,653 There's a phrase. "A wolf in sheep's clothing." 593 00:42:46,693 --> 00:42:50,192 He likes videos about people being raped, 594 00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:51,193 and stuff like that. 595 00:42:52,163 --> 00:42:53,293 He likes little girls. 596 00:42:54,823 --> 00:42:57,992 He would make me watch it with him. 597 00:42:57,993 --> 00:42:59,992 And when I would close my eyes, 598 00:42:59,993 --> 00:43:01,352 "No, you need to open your eyes. 599 00:43:01,353 --> 00:43:02,922 You need to see this." 600 00:43:02,923 --> 00:43:06,822 I would tell Margie what had happened 601 00:43:06,823 --> 00:43:09,352 and she would say I was a little slut. 602 00:43:09,353 --> 00:43:12,422 "It's all your fault. It's all your fault." 603 00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:14,992 This is not true. 604 00:43:14,993 --> 00:43:17,452 It didn't happen. 605 00:43:17,453 --> 00:43:20,192 Margie is a great manipulator. 606 00:43:20,193 --> 00:43:24,252 She can make herself and make you believe 607 00:43:24,253 --> 00:43:25,353 she's right. 608 00:43:27,193 --> 00:43:29,353 And you just get brainwashed. 609 00:43:30,723 --> 00:43:32,093 She's straight evil. 610 00:43:35,093 --> 00:43:39,093 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 49263

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