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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,718 --> 00:00:08,263 NARRATOR: Humans are natural-born explorers. 2 00:00:08,471 --> 00:00:12,851 We charge into uncharted territory and seek out the unknown. 3 00:00:14,436 --> 00:00:16,479 We've mapped nearly every inch of Mother Earth... 4 00:00:18,481 --> 00:00:20,859 ...and left tracks on the moon. 5 00:00:21,067 --> 00:00:23,445 But to set foot on another planet... 6 00:00:23,653 --> 00:00:25,947 ...to travel beyond our solar system... 7 00:00:26,114 --> 00:00:28,617 ...that is a dream for the future. 8 00:00:33,455 --> 00:00:37,834 A dream that comes to life in the feature film Interstellar. 9 00:00:39,419 --> 00:00:45,217 BRAND: We must think not as individuals but as a species. 10 00:00:45,383 --> 00:00:49,221 We must confront the reality of interstellar travel. 11 00:00:54,226 --> 00:00:59,731 NARRATOR: The film Interstellar deals with the quest for new worlds and the fate of humanity. 12 00:01:00,482 --> 00:01:02,734 Sound like the stuff of science fiction? 13 00:01:03,318 --> 00:01:04,736 Maybe. 14 00:01:04,903 --> 00:01:09,574 But the foundations of this film are rooted in real science... 15 00:01:09,741 --> 00:01:14,329 ...thanks to the involvement of renowned astrophysicist Kip Thorne. 16 00:01:14,496 --> 00:01:18,250 In Interstellar, one of the most important features... 17 00:01:18,416 --> 00:01:22,921 ...is the way that the science is totally embedded in the film. 18 00:01:23,088 --> 00:01:24,881 There are some wild things in here. 19 00:01:26,007 --> 00:01:31,263 NARRATOR: Beyond fantasy and fiction, this is the real science of Interstellar. 20 00:01:39,771 --> 00:01:42,774 Space travel has been a staple of the movies from the very beginning... 21 00:01:42,941 --> 00:01:46,528 ...but the feature film Interstellar has a unique pedigree. 22 00:01:46,695 --> 00:01:49,447 It was inspired in part by the work of Kip Thorne... 23 00:01:51,658 --> 00:01:55,412 ...an authority on astrophysics, gravitational waves... 24 00:01:55,578 --> 00:01:58,331 ...and the warping of space-time. 25 00:01:58,498 --> 00:02:01,543 He's also an executive producer on the film. 26 00:02:01,876 --> 00:02:07,716 In Interstellar, real science was built into the fabric of the film from the outset. 27 00:02:08,216 --> 00:02:13,930 The other major players in this film, they all respected the science... 28 00:02:14,097 --> 00:02:18,018 ...and they worked with me to see that the science was well incorporated. 29 00:02:18,184 --> 00:02:24,649 Can you tell me what the easiest definition of what a singularity is? 30 00:02:24,816 --> 00:02:29,863 Kip and myself meshed well in terms of trying to use current thinking... 31 00:02:30,030 --> 00:02:33,158 ...current scientific understanding to drive the narrative. 32 00:02:33,325 --> 00:02:34,701 The language we use... 33 00:02:34,868 --> 00:02:41,207 ...is it's a place where the curvature of space and time gets infinitely high. 34 00:02:41,374 --> 00:02:42,459 So we're good, okay. 35 00:02:42,625 --> 00:02:46,838 And we just hope that the research we've done and the conversations I'd had with Kip... 36 00:02:47,005 --> 00:02:50,383 ...and that Chris had had with Kip informed the narrative... 37 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:52,427 ...and that the audience would feel that. 38 00:02:52,594 --> 00:02:55,722 NOLAN: Why simply imagine, fantasize... 39 00:02:55,889 --> 00:02:59,517 ...about things that might happen in space or on an interstellar journey? 40 00:02:59,684 --> 00:03:02,854 Why not actually look at, uh, the real science there? 41 00:03:05,607 --> 00:03:06,983 It's an Indian surveillance drone. 42 00:03:07,150 --> 00:03:09,069 NARRATOR: Interstellar takes place in a future... 43 00:03:09,235 --> 00:03:12,989 ...where living conditions on Earth threaten the survival of humanity. 44 00:03:13,907 --> 00:03:17,035 BRAND: Your daughter's generation will be the last to survive on Earth. 45 00:03:17,202 --> 00:03:20,538 COOPER: Now you need to tell me what your plan is to save the world. 46 00:03:20,705 --> 00:03:23,917 BRAND: We're not meant to save the world, we're meant to leave it. 47 00:03:24,876 --> 00:03:28,505 One of the things that the film explores is, do we belong on Earth... 48 00:03:28,671 --> 00:03:31,800 ...and should we be staying on Earth... 49 00:03:31,966 --> 00:03:35,011 ...and if there is anything else out there, should we be exploring that? 50 00:03:35,345 --> 00:03:36,638 Here we go. 51 00:03:36,805 --> 00:03:39,432 NARRATOR: In the film, the crew seeks a new place to call home. 52 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:41,267 A planet that can sustain life. 53 00:03:42,102 --> 00:03:43,228 Human life. 54 00:03:43,395 --> 00:03:44,646 -I'm not gonna make it! -Yes, you are. 55 00:03:44,813 --> 00:03:47,774 It's an exciting concept that there may be other worlds out there. 56 00:03:48,441 --> 00:03:51,152 Well, what are those worlds and what could they be... 57 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:53,238 ...and is there a place for us out there? 58 00:03:53,738 --> 00:03:55,323 NARRATOR: The search for another Earth... 59 00:03:55,490 --> 00:03:58,284 ...sounds like a job for the explorers of tomorrow... 60 00:03:58,785 --> 00:04:01,579 ...but it's happening right now. 61 00:04:05,041 --> 00:04:09,254 Astrophysicist Natalie Batalha is a passionate planet hunter. 62 00:04:09,421 --> 00:04:13,174 BATALHA: I think the only way that we're going to really understand our place in the galaxy... 63 00:04:13,341 --> 00:04:18,930 ...is by looking at this broad picture and understanding the diversity of all planets. 64 00:04:19,097 --> 00:04:21,141 Twenty or 30 years ago, we didn't know... 65 00:04:21,307 --> 00:04:25,728 ...of any other planets orbiting normal stars like our own sun. 66 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:29,315 NARRATOR: Natalie has helped rewrite that story as mission scientist... 67 00:04:29,482 --> 00:04:31,401 ...for NASA's Kepler space telescope. 68 00:04:31,568 --> 00:04:33,862 BATALHA: Kepler's objective is very simple. 69 00:04:34,028 --> 00:04:37,323 It's to determine the fraction of stars in our galaxy... 70 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:41,286 ...that harbor potentially habitable Earth-size planets. 71 00:04:41,453 --> 00:04:43,746 NARRATOR: And what makes a planet potentially habitable? 72 00:04:43,913 --> 00:04:46,958 The one ingredient that we think is common to all life forms... 73 00:04:47,125 --> 00:04:49,794 ...is this requirement of liquid water. 74 00:04:49,961 --> 00:04:52,547 So that's why we look for planets that have rocky surfaces... 75 00:04:52,714 --> 00:04:53,882 ...where water could pool... 76 00:04:54,215 --> 00:04:57,135 ...and that are receiving the right amount of energy from the star... 77 00:04:57,302 --> 00:05:01,139 ...where the water wouldn't be locked up in a frozen state because the planet is so cold... 78 00:05:01,306 --> 00:05:04,851 ...nor would it be evaporated away because the planet is too hot. 79 00:05:05,018 --> 00:05:09,439 We call it the Goldilocks Zone, where liquid water could potentially exist. 80 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,650 NARRATOR: Launched in 2009, Kepler stared... 81 00:05:12,817 --> 00:05:17,322 ...at one small patch of the Milky Way for four years straight. 82 00:05:17,489 --> 00:05:21,868 Compared to stars, planets are too tiny for Kepler to spot... 83 00:05:22,660 --> 00:05:24,162 ...but it can detect their shadows. 84 00:05:24,329 --> 00:05:29,584 BATALHA: Every planet orbiting a luminous object is casting a shadow out into space. 85 00:05:29,751 --> 00:05:32,420 The Kepler spacecraft makes use of that fact... 86 00:05:32,587 --> 00:05:37,217 ...waiting for a planet in its orbit about the star... 87 00:05:37,383 --> 00:05:41,179 ...to pass directly between the disc of the star and the spacecraft... 88 00:05:41,679 --> 00:05:46,100 ...and the telescope perceives that as a dimming of light. 89 00:05:46,267 --> 00:05:49,521 NARRATOR: This simple method has revealed thousands of exoplanets. 90 00:05:50,271 --> 00:05:53,650 Planets orbiting other stars in our galaxy. 91 00:05:53,816 --> 00:05:55,026 What we've learned so far... 92 00:05:55,193 --> 00:06:00,573 ...is that literally every star in the galaxy has at least one planet. 93 00:06:01,074 --> 00:06:05,161 There's an amazing diversity of exoplanets out there... 94 00:06:05,328 --> 00:06:07,330 ...and we've found very exotic worlds. 95 00:06:07,997 --> 00:06:12,252 Two hundred light-years away, there is a Saturn-size planet orbiting... 96 00:06:12,418 --> 00:06:14,921 ...not one, but two stars. 97 00:06:15,088 --> 00:06:18,299 So if you were living on a world like Kepler-16b... 98 00:06:18,466 --> 00:06:22,637 ...you would see in the sky two stars rising in the east, setting in the west... 99 00:06:22,804 --> 00:06:27,475 ...continuously changing position as they orbit one another. 100 00:06:30,144 --> 00:06:33,565 This is an artist's rendition of the planet Kepler-10b. 101 00:06:33,731 --> 00:06:39,904 It's orbiting 23 times closer to its parent star than Mercury is to our own sun. 102 00:06:40,071 --> 00:06:45,201 So this star-facing side is just being blasted by stellar radiation... 103 00:06:45,577 --> 00:06:49,664 ...creating temperatures in excess of that required to melt iron. 104 00:06:49,831 --> 00:06:54,127 The planet has an entire hemisphere larger than the Pacific Ocean... 105 00:06:54,294 --> 00:06:57,297 ...which is an ocean, but it's not an ocean of water. 106 00:06:57,463 --> 00:06:59,674 It's an ocean of molten lava. 107 00:07:00,717 --> 00:07:03,052 NARRATOR: Not an attractive destination. 108 00:07:04,721 --> 00:07:08,891 But Kepler recently found us a possible second home. 109 00:07:09,058 --> 00:07:12,770 This is an artist's concept of the Kepler-186 planetary system. 110 00:07:12,937 --> 00:07:15,982 Five planets orbiting this M-type star... 111 00:07:16,149 --> 00:07:20,278 ...and the outermost planet is Kepler-186f. 112 00:07:21,112 --> 00:07:26,451 Our first discovery of an Earth-size planet in the habitable zone of a normal star. 113 00:07:26,618 --> 00:07:32,373 When I think about Kepler-186f, I try to imagine it as a real place... 114 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:34,792 ...because it is a real place. 115 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:38,004 We know that it could be rocky, it's the same size as Earth... 116 00:07:38,171 --> 00:07:40,840 ...so I do imagine a rocky surface. 117 00:07:41,549 --> 00:07:45,595 We don't know that it has a liquid ocean, but we can certainly imagine one. 118 00:07:46,095 --> 00:07:48,431 And then, all of a sudden in your imagination... 119 00:07:48,598 --> 00:07:51,392 ...you internalize the existence of this world out there... 120 00:07:51,559 --> 00:07:54,896 ...that there is a place that could be very, very much like Earth. 121 00:07:55,980 --> 00:08:00,485 NARRATOR: So when do we set sail for these distant shores? 122 00:08:00,652 --> 00:08:02,654 Reality check. 123 00:08:02,945 --> 00:08:08,117 Kepler-186f is nearly 3 quadrillion miles from Earth. 124 00:08:08,284 --> 00:08:11,120 Otherwise put, 500 light-years away. 125 00:08:11,913 --> 00:08:16,167 That's a journey of 500 years at the speed of light. 126 00:08:16,459 --> 00:08:19,587 But no thing can travel as fast as light. 127 00:08:19,754 --> 00:08:22,757 At best, our spacecrafts are thousands of times slower. 128 00:08:23,091 --> 00:08:25,760 Even the spaceships in Interstellar don't come close. 129 00:08:25,927 --> 00:08:29,097 BRAND: We need the bravest humans to find us a new home. 130 00:08:29,263 --> 00:08:32,308 COOPER: But the nearest star is over a thousand years away. 131 00:08:32,475 --> 00:08:34,102 -Hence the bravery. -Okay. 132 00:08:34,477 --> 00:08:38,022 NARRATOR: So how do they reach new worlds beyond our solar system? 133 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,819 They take a walk on the warp side of space and time. 134 00:08:47,407 --> 00:08:49,242 MURPH: You have no idea when you're coming back. 135 00:08:50,326 --> 00:08:53,204 AMELIA: Couldn't you have told her you were going to save the world? 136 00:08:53,371 --> 00:08:54,622 No. 137 00:08:56,124 --> 00:08:58,251 I'm coming back. 138 00:08:58,918 --> 00:09:04,465 NARRATOR: When we journey to a far-off place, we travel not just in space but also in time... 139 00:09:04,632 --> 00:09:07,260 ...as we move into the future. 140 00:09:08,636 --> 00:09:15,309 Until about a century ago, scientists believed that space and time were entirely separate. 141 00:09:16,269 --> 00:09:22,650 Theoretical physicist Sean Carroll explains how Albert Einstein overturned that idea. 142 00:09:23,025 --> 00:09:24,861 CARROLL: One of Einstein's great insights... 143 00:09:25,027 --> 00:09:27,488 ...was that space and time were related to each other... 144 00:09:27,655 --> 00:09:29,532 ...where you have space and you have time. 145 00:09:29,699 --> 00:09:33,453 Einstein says, "There's only one thing which we call space-time." 146 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:37,039 And then he says, "This space-time thing... 147 00:09:37,206 --> 00:09:41,210 ...it's not just the stage on which all the action plays out. 148 00:09:41,377 --> 00:09:42,545 It's an actor itself." 149 00:09:45,715 --> 00:09:50,386 Space-time can change, it can move, it can bend, and it can warp. 150 00:09:53,681 --> 00:09:59,061 NARRATOR: Einstein's theory of relativity states that space-time is like a flexible fabric. 151 00:09:59,228 --> 00:10:06,110 The objects embedded in it: The sun, planets, even us, warp that fabric. 152 00:10:06,611 --> 00:10:10,782 And the consequence of that warping is what we call gravity. 153 00:10:10,948 --> 00:10:14,911 The more massive the object, the more space-time is warped... 154 00:10:15,077 --> 00:10:17,455 ...and the greater the gravity. 155 00:10:21,918 --> 00:10:23,419 We feel gravity. 156 00:10:25,463 --> 00:10:29,592 The flexibility of space-time is harder to grasp on a gut level... 157 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:32,386 ...but its effects are measurable. 158 00:10:35,264 --> 00:10:41,270 As Sean demonstrates, the greater the gravity, the more slowly time flows. 159 00:10:41,437 --> 00:10:44,232 CARROLL: For example, if I were on the ground floor with a clock... 160 00:10:44,398 --> 00:10:46,400 ...a super accurate atomic clock... 161 00:10:46,567 --> 00:10:49,237 ...and a twin of mine was up on the top floor of a building... 162 00:10:49,403 --> 00:10:51,239 ...with an equally accurate atomic clock... 163 00:10:51,405 --> 00:10:55,827 ...if we later on compared them, mine would have ticked off fewer seconds. 164 00:10:57,245 --> 00:11:01,165 NARRATOR: On the ground floor, Sean experiences slightly more gravity... 165 00:11:01,332 --> 00:11:03,543 ...than his twin on the top floor. 166 00:11:03,709 --> 00:11:07,421 He also experiences slightly less time than his twin. 167 00:11:08,130 --> 00:11:11,217 The difference is tiny, but real. 168 00:11:11,384 --> 00:11:13,344 And there are practical applications. 169 00:11:13,511 --> 00:11:17,181 CARROLL: For example, the GPS system, the Global Positioning System... 170 00:11:17,348 --> 00:11:20,560 ...that is a very, very precise set of clocks... 171 00:11:20,726 --> 00:11:23,020 ...on satellites orbiting around the Earth... 172 00:11:23,187 --> 00:11:27,400 ...and that orbit is in a slightly different gravitational field than we are in down here. 173 00:11:27,567 --> 00:11:32,154 So the fact that time moves differently here on the surface of the Earth... 174 00:11:32,321 --> 00:11:34,657 ...than in the satellite orbit, is very, very important... 175 00:11:34,824 --> 00:11:36,909 ...to getting the GPS to work correctly. 176 00:11:37,577 --> 00:11:41,747 NARRATOR: Time on a GPS satellite clock advances faster than a clock on Earth... 177 00:11:41,914 --> 00:11:44,250 ...by about 38 microseconds per day... 178 00:11:44,625 --> 00:11:47,003 ...so the system's computers correct for that. 179 00:11:49,589 --> 00:11:52,758 Motion also affects our experience of space-time. 180 00:11:52,925 --> 00:11:55,678 CARROLL: The best way to say it is just staying still... 181 00:11:55,845 --> 00:11:58,598 ...means that you experience the most time that you can. 182 00:11:58,764 --> 00:12:02,602 Moving around and doing things means you experience less time. 183 00:12:02,768 --> 00:12:07,607 NARRATOR: Let's revisit Sean at the wheel of his car and his twin on a park bench. 184 00:12:07,773 --> 00:12:10,902 If you move out on your car, and then you come back... 185 00:12:11,277 --> 00:12:13,863 ...compared to the person who stayed behind... 186 00:12:14,030 --> 00:12:16,449 ...your clock that you took with you on that journey... 187 00:12:16,616 --> 00:12:20,411 ...will have experienced a little bit less time than the one who stayed behind. 188 00:12:22,914 --> 00:12:25,917 NARRATOR: We normally move too slowly to notice the effect. 189 00:12:26,751 --> 00:12:29,962 But if Sean could drive near the speed of light... 190 00:12:31,464 --> 00:12:35,301 ...he could race across the United States and back again a million times... 191 00:12:35,468 --> 00:12:38,387 ...and experience less than a second of time... 192 00:12:38,554 --> 00:12:40,348 ...while the twin he left behind... 193 00:12:40,514 --> 00:12:43,434 ...would endure hours of waiting for Sean's return. 194 00:12:44,685 --> 00:12:49,565 In other words, Sean would've traveled into the future compared to his twin. 195 00:12:51,359 --> 00:12:53,611 This means space travel may get tricky in years to come. 196 00:12:54,528 --> 00:12:58,449 The faster our spaceships, the greater the gravity fields we encounter... 197 00:12:58,616 --> 00:13:02,495 ...the further out of sync we may become with those we leave behind. 198 00:13:02,662 --> 00:13:06,207 COOPER: So if we find a home, then what? 199 00:13:06,374 --> 00:13:08,793 Every hour is seven years back on Earth. 200 00:13:09,210 --> 00:13:14,840 NARRATOR: The relativity of time is the source of hardship and heartbreak in Interstellar. 201 00:13:16,175 --> 00:13:18,970 The theory of relativity is fascinating all by itself... 202 00:13:19,136 --> 00:13:22,056 ...but it immediately becomes something very emotional... 203 00:13:22,223 --> 00:13:25,518 ...when you talk about the distances between people. 204 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:29,271 You know, we all spend time away from our families. 205 00:13:29,438 --> 00:13:33,985 I just thought, what if you could take that to its logical and very bittersweet extreme? 206 00:13:34,151 --> 00:13:38,406 NOLAN: For me, it was very exciting to be able to examine the concept... 207 00:13:38,572 --> 00:13:40,950 ...of the subjective experience of time. 208 00:13:41,117 --> 00:13:43,661 It's really the first time I've had an objective structure... 209 00:13:43,828 --> 00:13:46,747 ...around the film saying that time literally is relative... 210 00:13:46,914 --> 00:13:50,292 ...that we all experience time differently depending on where we are in the universe. 211 00:13:51,252 --> 00:13:54,130 NARRATOR: But the warping of space-time may also provide shortcuts... 212 00:13:54,588 --> 00:13:57,216 ...that could make interstellar travel a snap. 213 00:13:58,509 --> 00:13:59,719 Wormholes. 214 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,513 They're a staple of science fiction... 215 00:14:03,931 --> 00:14:06,350 ...but they're based on real science. 216 00:14:06,976 --> 00:14:12,064 Einstein's relativistic laws govern the warping of space and time... 217 00:14:12,231 --> 00:14:16,360 ...and they say that wormholes might exist, they could exist. 218 00:14:16,819 --> 00:14:20,239 So this dates all the way back to 1916. 219 00:14:22,158 --> 00:14:26,454 CARROLL: A wormhole is a particular way that space and time can be curved. 220 00:14:26,620 --> 00:14:31,000 It's like adding a little tube that connects two parts of space. 221 00:14:31,625 --> 00:14:36,630 The basic idea is that if you're an ant and you live on the surface of the apple... 222 00:14:36,797 --> 00:14:39,425 ...the surface of the apple is your entire universe. 223 00:14:40,051 --> 00:14:44,305 You can go around the outside through the universe itself... 224 00:14:44,472 --> 00:14:47,183 ...or you can go through the wormhole. 225 00:14:47,475 --> 00:14:52,146 NARRATOR: But Einstein's equations also predict that if wormholes do form in nature... 226 00:14:52,313 --> 00:14:54,648 ...they may be subatomic in size... 227 00:14:54,815 --> 00:14:58,903 ...and exist for only fractions of a second before closing off. 228 00:15:00,237 --> 00:15:04,283 Theoretically, what would it take to keep a wormhole open... 229 00:15:04,450 --> 00:15:07,328 ...and make it big enough to accommodate a spaceship? 230 00:15:07,495 --> 00:15:10,873 THORNE: It turns out that in order to hold a wormhole open... 231 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,835 ...so it doesn't crunch off and kill you when you try to go through... 232 00:15:15,002 --> 00:15:21,634 ...that you have to have the wormhole threaded by a negative mass or negative energy. 233 00:15:21,801 --> 00:15:24,011 Einstein says mass and energy are equivalent. 234 00:15:24,762 --> 00:15:30,142 NARRATOR: Almost all the forms of matter we know have positive mass and exert gravity. 235 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,021 Negative mass would exert antigravity... 236 00:15:34,188 --> 00:15:37,900 ...and repel the walls of a wormhole to keep it open. 237 00:15:38,067 --> 00:15:43,405 Strangely, it is true that negative energy can exist... 238 00:15:43,572 --> 00:15:48,119 ...and it's been created in the laboratory, but only in very tiny amounts. 239 00:15:49,078 --> 00:15:50,746 NARRATOR: It would take vast quantities... 240 00:15:50,913 --> 00:15:54,416 ...to prop open a wormhole large enough for a spaceship. 241 00:15:55,084 --> 00:15:57,586 But just maybe, in the future... 242 00:15:57,753 --> 00:16:02,550 ...engineers will devise advanced technologies to do just that. 243 00:16:02,716 --> 00:16:06,929 Today it's an educated guess, maybe I should say a half-educated guess... 244 00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:10,432 ...that wormholes cannot exist in our universe... 245 00:16:10,599 --> 00:16:12,601 ...but we're far from sure of that. 246 00:16:12,768 --> 00:16:15,646 CARROLL: The truth is, we just don't know right now. 247 00:16:15,813 --> 00:16:18,566 We don't understand the laws of physics well enough to say for sure... 248 00:16:18,732 --> 00:16:20,359 ...whether or not wormholes are possible. 249 00:16:21,152 --> 00:16:25,865 NARRATOR: But since they're not impossible, they're fair game for a filmmaker. 250 00:16:26,031 --> 00:16:29,702 I was very excited about the idea of focusing on a family... 251 00:16:30,035 --> 00:16:31,620 ...who would be the pioneers... 252 00:16:31,787 --> 00:16:36,041 ...who would experience some of the extraordinary features of astrophysics... 253 00:16:36,208 --> 00:16:41,088 ...particularly the idea of a wormhole that would allow us to travel to distant stars. 254 00:16:42,798 --> 00:16:45,342 NARRATOR: To create a wormhole based on real science... 255 00:16:45,509 --> 00:16:48,762 ...Visual Effects supervisor Paul Franklin turned to Kip Thorne. 256 00:16:50,848 --> 00:16:54,476 FRANKLIN: The popular image of what a wormhole might look like... 257 00:16:54,643 --> 00:16:56,604 ...is literally just a hole in space. 258 00:16:56,770 --> 00:17:00,900 It sits on an invisible surface, you see stuff sliding down the sides... 259 00:17:01,066 --> 00:17:03,235 ...and disappearing down the drain, as it were. 260 00:17:03,402 --> 00:17:05,988 And right in that first conversation, Kip showed me an image... 261 00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:08,991 ...of that kind of classical fantasy image of these things... 262 00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:13,495 ...and said, "This is all wrong." Ha, ha. "This is not how it is." 263 00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:17,750 NARRATOR: Kip worked out the scientific equations that define the wormhole... 264 00:17:17,917 --> 00:17:20,461 ...and sent them to Paul's animators back in London. 265 00:17:20,628 --> 00:17:24,423 THORNE: And so for the movie, I built a mathematical model wormhole... 266 00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:27,968 ...based on Einstein's relativity equations. 267 00:17:28,135 --> 00:17:32,848 Paul, Kip and myself, we discussed, "Okay, we'll visualize the thing. 268 00:17:33,015 --> 00:17:36,018 We'll simulate the thing exactly as the calculations say." 269 00:17:36,185 --> 00:17:39,063 And Paul Franklin and his team, they were thrilled to get algorithms... 270 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:42,691 ...that were the absolute latest, most interesting and up-to-the-minute. 271 00:17:42,858 --> 00:17:44,235 MAN: Now we can go to the other one. 272 00:17:44,401 --> 00:17:46,820 The wormhole is a three-dimensional hole in space. 273 00:17:46,987 --> 00:17:49,949 What do you get if you take a circle and sweep it out in three dimensions? 274 00:17:50,115 --> 00:17:51,367 You get a sphere. 275 00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:55,746 So the wormhole almost feels like a crystal ball hanging in space. 276 00:17:58,624 --> 00:18:02,336 THORNE: I don't think anybody had ever really done this kind of visualization before. 277 00:18:02,503 --> 00:18:03,587 This is really unique. 278 00:18:03,754 --> 00:18:08,300 Uh, first time for me, as well as for you and the audience. 279 00:18:08,467 --> 00:18:09,551 Absolutely, yes. 280 00:18:12,012 --> 00:18:14,932 NARRATOR: In Interstellar, crew members take a giant leap of faith... 281 00:18:15,099 --> 00:18:17,393 ...when they plunge into a wormhole. 282 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:20,104 DOYLE: You can't think about your family. You have to think bigger. 283 00:18:20,479 --> 00:18:24,316 COOPER: I am thinking about my family and millions of other families. 284 00:18:24,483 --> 00:18:27,486 AMELIA: You might have to decide between seeing your children again... 285 00:18:27,653 --> 00:18:29,280 ...and the future of the human race. 286 00:18:29,947 --> 00:18:33,909 NARRATOR: Beyond the wormhole, the crew will face a far greater challenge: 287 00:18:34,535 --> 00:18:38,289 To navigate the perils of a black hole. 288 00:18:39,957 --> 00:18:43,752 For a filmmaker, that threat is full of dramatic possibilities. 289 00:18:45,045 --> 00:18:49,633 NOLAN: When you venture out into a story about a man against the elements... 290 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:56,390 ...visualizing the threat against our protagonist become very much more exotic. 291 00:18:56,890 --> 00:19:01,979 Deep, deep space gives you a very, very fresh approach. 292 00:19:02,855 --> 00:19:05,691 NARRATOR: Black holes were predicted by Einstein's equations... 293 00:19:05,858 --> 00:19:08,652 ...but physicists questioned whether they could really exist. 294 00:19:08,819 --> 00:19:11,322 THORNE: A black hole is a strange beast. 295 00:19:11,488 --> 00:19:15,034 If this were a black hole, then instead of a rubber surface... 296 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,412 ...it would have a surface that is made of absolutely nothing... 297 00:19:18,579 --> 00:19:21,248 ...except warped space and time. 298 00:19:22,875 --> 00:19:25,544 It's a place where gravity is so strong... 299 00:19:25,711 --> 00:19:29,465 ...that if anything falls into the black hole, it can never get back out. 300 00:19:29,631 --> 00:19:31,967 If you fall in, you can't send signals back out. 301 00:19:32,134 --> 00:19:34,261 Light can't get out from the interior. 302 00:19:36,055 --> 00:19:38,640 CARROLL: So you might ask, how would that ever happen? 303 00:19:38,807 --> 00:19:43,437 In outer space, you can get so much mass together, like in a super-massive star... 304 00:19:43,604 --> 00:19:46,857 ...that the gravity just becomes stronger and stronger and stronger... 305 00:19:47,024 --> 00:19:51,320 ...and eventually the pressure that matter exerts on itself can't keep up. 306 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:54,907 And everything collapses, there's a big explosion. 307 00:19:55,074 --> 00:19:59,036 Some of the stuff is blown away, but the rest of it collapses into a black hole. 308 00:20:00,746 --> 00:20:04,917 NARRATOR: A black hole that spins on its axis drags the very space around it... 309 00:20:05,084 --> 00:20:09,922 ...into a whirling motion that pulls stars and planets into orbit. 310 00:20:10,089 --> 00:20:14,093 Closer in, gravity increases like a riptide. 311 00:20:14,259 --> 00:20:18,764 At a boundary called the event horizon, gravity becomes so extreme... 312 00:20:18,931 --> 00:20:22,309 ...that nothing can escape being pulled into the heart of the beast... 313 00:20:22,476 --> 00:20:23,894 ...and lost forever. 314 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,357 GHEZ: Black holes are simple, and yet they have a lot of character. 315 00:20:28,524 --> 00:20:30,526 It's almost like they can take on personalities. 316 00:20:30,692 --> 00:20:35,030 Um, they can be picky eaters, um, they can be energetic. 317 00:20:35,197 --> 00:20:36,907 And what you're seeing and describing... 318 00:20:37,074 --> 00:20:39,910 ...is really how the black hole interacts with the environment. 319 00:20:40,869 --> 00:20:43,372 NARRATOR: UCLA astronomer Andrea Ghez... 320 00:20:43,539 --> 00:20:44,748 Looks like this is Sagi's star. 321 00:20:44,915 --> 00:20:46,875 NARRATOR: ...is an expert on black hole detection. 322 00:20:47,042 --> 00:20:49,044 -Must be this one, right? -I think it's that one. 323 00:20:49,211 --> 00:20:53,424 NARRATOR: She played a key role investigating what had long been a scientific hunch. 324 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:57,010 That a huge black hole lives at the center of the Milky Way. 325 00:20:57,177 --> 00:20:58,345 It's looking good. 326 00:20:58,512 --> 00:21:01,140 NARRATOR: Astronomers knew the heart of our galaxy was buzzing... 327 00:21:01,306 --> 00:21:05,144 ...with gas, dust and millions of stars. 328 00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:08,647 Some powerful force appeared to be driving this hubbub. 329 00:21:08,814 --> 00:21:11,191 Could it be a black hole? 330 00:21:12,109 --> 00:21:15,028 Ground telescopes just couldn't produce sharp images of the region... 331 00:21:16,071 --> 00:21:21,410 ...then a technique called adaptive optics vastly improved the view. 332 00:21:21,577 --> 00:21:25,247 This is what it looks like before you use advanced technology. 333 00:21:25,747 --> 00:21:26,999 It's a blurry mess... 334 00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:30,836 ...and now you can see the individual stars with adaptive optics turned on. 335 00:21:31,003 --> 00:21:35,132 So each point of light here is associated with an individual star. 336 00:21:36,592 --> 00:21:41,513 NARRATOR: Andrea put that technique to work at the Keck Observatory in Hawaii. 337 00:21:42,890 --> 00:21:44,391 GHEZ: This is a road map. 338 00:21:44,558 --> 00:21:48,187 NARRATOR: And she and her team began to track the stars at the center of the Milky Way. 339 00:21:48,353 --> 00:21:50,731 GHEZ: And that's the center of our galaxy. 340 00:21:50,898 --> 00:21:54,067 The very first year that we took the data was in 1995. 341 00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:59,114 Then we go back to the telescope in '96, then we take our second image... 342 00:21:59,281 --> 00:22:01,533 ...and you have two pictures, and you can compare them. 343 00:22:03,076 --> 00:22:07,080 NARRATOR: Andrea wanted to see if the stars were orbiting a single source of gravity... 344 00:22:07,414 --> 00:22:10,209 ...but stars can take years to complete an orbit. 345 00:22:10,834 --> 00:22:13,337 GHEZ: And so it was really important that we kept going... 346 00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:18,258 ...and by 2000 we finally started to see the star's curve. 347 00:22:18,425 --> 00:22:23,055 In other words, the gravitational influence of the black hole, um... 348 00:22:23,222 --> 00:22:27,601 ...had made those stars go from straight lines to starting to bend. 349 00:22:27,768 --> 00:22:29,561 Precise enough to see that curvature. 350 00:22:29,728 --> 00:22:34,316 NARRATOR: Year by year, Andrea and her team built their case. 351 00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:38,570 This animation represents, uh, 20 years of work... 352 00:22:38,737 --> 00:22:45,661 ...and it tells you that there is a black hole, and exactly how massive it is. 353 00:22:45,827 --> 00:22:48,914 NARRATOR: Andrea's painstaking project revealed a monster... 354 00:22:49,081 --> 00:22:52,334 ...with more than 4 million times the mass of our sun... 355 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:55,796 ...at the center of our Milky Way. 356 00:22:56,421 --> 00:23:00,801 Today, scientists are hunting black holes with new tools. 357 00:23:00,968 --> 00:23:06,223 Caltech astrophysicist Fiona Harrison scans the skies with NuSTAR... 358 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:09,935 ...a telescope that looks at the universe in high-energy x-rays. 359 00:23:11,144 --> 00:23:13,564 HARRISON: The black hole itself doesn't emit light... 360 00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:16,775 ...but dust and gas falls onto the black holes... 361 00:23:16,942 --> 00:23:22,864 ...and in doing so, it heats up, and it emits x-rays. 362 00:23:23,574 --> 00:23:28,078 NARRATOR: NuSTAR captures black holes in the process of feasting on matter... 363 00:23:28,245 --> 00:23:31,582 ...and the telescope is spotting them all over the place. 364 00:23:31,957 --> 00:23:36,962 HARRISON: It's really only 10, 20 years ago that we thought black holes were rare. 365 00:23:37,129 --> 00:23:40,132 We now know that every galaxy, like our Milky Way... 366 00:23:40,299 --> 00:23:43,093 ...has a massive black hole at its heart. 367 00:23:43,594 --> 00:23:48,765 So rather than just being curiosities, they're actually fundamentally important... 368 00:23:48,932 --> 00:23:51,476 ...to why the universe is the way it is. 369 00:23:52,060 --> 00:23:55,564 NARRATOR: So is the Earth at risk of getting swallowed by a black hole? 370 00:23:56,315 --> 00:23:59,318 HARRISON: Even though we have black holes sprinkled throughout the galaxy... 371 00:23:59,484 --> 00:24:01,111 ...we're in absolutely no danger. 372 00:24:01,278 --> 00:24:05,032 It's a common misconception that black holes might suck the Earth. 373 00:24:05,198 --> 00:24:08,535 Well, there's no sucking going on, it's just normal gravity. 374 00:24:09,995 --> 00:24:11,830 It's just when you get very close to it... 375 00:24:11,997 --> 00:24:15,042 ...that there's a region from which light can't even escape... 376 00:24:15,208 --> 00:24:18,045 ...and Earth is not gonna do that. 377 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,130 NARRATOR: But in Interstellar... 378 00:24:20,297 --> 00:24:23,258 ...crew members have a precariously close encounter with a black hole. 379 00:24:23,717 --> 00:24:25,385 COOPER: Oh, we are not prepared for this. 380 00:24:25,761 --> 00:24:28,388 NARRATOR: What would the beast look like to them? 381 00:24:28,555 --> 00:24:30,557 One of the things that Kip was very insistent on... 382 00:24:30,724 --> 00:24:34,436 ...is that the black hole, it's spherical, but it's absolutely black. 383 00:24:34,603 --> 00:24:36,229 It has no surface detail. 384 00:24:36,396 --> 00:24:39,191 Doesn't give shadows or highlights or anything. 385 00:24:39,358 --> 00:24:42,361 But then early on, we were talking about accretion disks. 386 00:24:42,778 --> 00:24:47,783 And that gave us a way to define the spherical shape of the thing. 387 00:24:47,949 --> 00:24:52,329 NARRATOR: A black hole's accretion disk is made up of gas and dust and magnetic fields... 388 00:24:52,496 --> 00:24:53,914 ...that spin at high speeds... 389 00:24:54,414 --> 00:24:57,000 ...radiating heat and light. 390 00:24:58,377 --> 00:25:02,422 The black hole's gravity would actually bend that light like a camera lens... 391 00:25:02,589 --> 00:25:04,341 ...in ways that Kip would calculate. 392 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,805 THORNE: I worked out the equations for tracing light rays traveling around the black hole... 393 00:25:09,971 --> 00:25:15,435 ...to see what the disk would look like if you were in a spacecraft looking at it up close. 394 00:25:15,602 --> 00:25:18,397 NARRATOR: And Paul's team brought the mathematics to life. 395 00:25:18,563 --> 00:25:22,317 We were really able to use a very, very accurate representation... 396 00:25:22,484 --> 00:25:26,697 ...of the gravitational lens and the effects of gravity and light around the black hole. 397 00:25:26,863 --> 00:25:32,244 Uh, because what the algorithms gave us was extremely spectacular. 398 00:25:33,995 --> 00:25:36,248 NARRATOR: Even Kip was surprised. 399 00:25:36,415 --> 00:25:38,583 You see the disk in front... 400 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:40,210 ...and then when it goes around... 401 00:25:40,377 --> 00:25:44,423 ...you see the disk wrap up around the top of the black hole... 402 00:25:44,589 --> 00:25:46,550 ...and wrap around the bottom of the black hole. 403 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,972 I had guessed it would look more or less like this... 404 00:25:52,139 --> 00:25:54,766 ...but knowing it intellectually is different than feeling it... 405 00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,185 ...than absorbing it, than seeing it. 406 00:25:57,853 --> 00:25:59,646 It just blew me away. 407 00:26:00,397 --> 00:26:01,982 NARRATOR: But this brilliant depiction... 408 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:05,569 ...still can't tell us what happens in the heart of a black hole... 409 00:26:05,736 --> 00:26:07,487 ...beyond the event horizon. 410 00:26:08,905 --> 00:26:14,786 What would happen to an astronaut daring or crazy enough to dive in feet-first? 411 00:26:14,953 --> 00:26:16,997 THORNE: In the simplest descriptions of this... 412 00:26:17,164 --> 00:26:20,792 ...the descriptions that you will find in most books that you read... 413 00:26:20,959 --> 00:26:22,919 ...you're simply stretched from head to foot... 414 00:26:23,086 --> 00:26:28,884 ...and squeezed from the side by tidal forces, "spaghettified" is what it often says. 415 00:26:29,384 --> 00:26:32,679 You're spaghettified as you fall in and you're destroyed. 416 00:26:33,138 --> 00:26:34,973 That's the standard story. 417 00:26:39,603 --> 00:26:42,773 NARRATOR: The truth is, all the laws of physics that we know... 418 00:26:42,939 --> 00:26:46,193 ...break down in the heart of a black hole. 419 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,655 Physicists are still working on exactly what happens there. 420 00:26:52,073 --> 00:26:53,742 That's the gravity well, though, isn't it? 421 00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:59,122 When we talk to non-physicists, we will often say it's the gravity well. 422 00:26:59,289 --> 00:27:01,500 So you've been lying to us all these years. 423 00:27:01,666 --> 00:27:04,836 You know how these things go, there are lies and there are "lies." 424 00:27:05,003 --> 00:27:06,046 I know, but now... 425 00:27:06,463 --> 00:27:11,760 The movie Interstellar deals with physics that is well-understood, well-established. 426 00:27:11,927 --> 00:27:15,055 It deals with physics where we make educated guesses... 427 00:27:15,222 --> 00:27:17,933 ...and we're almost sure, but not 100 percent sure of our guesses. 428 00:27:19,059 --> 00:27:22,813 And it deals with physics at the frontiers of human understanding... 429 00:27:22,979 --> 00:27:24,815 ...where we have to speculate... 430 00:27:24,981 --> 00:27:26,817 ...and when you get beyond those frontiers... 431 00:27:26,983 --> 00:27:30,070 ...Interstellar works hard to align itself... 432 00:27:30,237 --> 00:27:34,032 ...with the best speculations a scientist could imagine. 433 00:27:34,199 --> 00:27:39,287 We're struggling very hard as filmmakers to try and explain, uh... 434 00:27:39,454 --> 00:27:42,916 ...these scientific concepts, these sort of abstract ideas... 435 00:27:43,083 --> 00:27:47,212 ...in a subjective way and a way that you can actually experience and feel something about. 436 00:27:48,964 --> 00:27:53,844 NARRATOR: Interstellar mines that gray area where new ideas percolate... 437 00:27:54,010 --> 00:27:58,890 ...and taps deep into questions about the nature of the universe. 438 00:28:04,396 --> 00:28:08,358 In Interstellar, telescopes on Earth first detect the presence of a wormhole. 439 00:28:10,068 --> 00:28:14,865 It shows up as a gravitational anomaly that distorts the view of space. 440 00:28:15,448 --> 00:28:18,785 We made the wormhole not have all that strong a gravity. 441 00:28:18,952 --> 00:28:20,704 But why the wormhole? 442 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:24,332 Because then you have a reason for your trip around it. 443 00:28:24,499 --> 00:28:27,377 I feel uncomfortable with the wormhole having that much gravity. 444 00:28:27,544 --> 00:28:30,297 THORNE: When I first began working with Christopher Nolan... 445 00:28:30,463 --> 00:28:33,258 ...he wanted a wormhole that had rather gentle gravity... 446 00:28:33,425 --> 00:28:35,719 ...so we discussed how big the wormhole should be... 447 00:28:35,886 --> 00:28:39,431 ...and agreed that it should be just barely big enough... 448 00:28:39,598 --> 00:28:41,391 ...that it could be seen from Earth... 449 00:28:41,558 --> 00:28:44,227 ...through the bending of light around the wormhole... 450 00:28:44,394 --> 00:28:46,563 ...by the wormhole's warped space. 451 00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:50,567 NARRATOR: Kip Thorne worked out just the right gravity for Interstellar's wormhole... 452 00:28:50,984 --> 00:28:55,363 ...using equations based on Einstein's theory of general relativity. 453 00:28:55,530 --> 00:29:01,703 As we've learned, that theory states that objects warp space-time, creating gravity. 454 00:29:02,537 --> 00:29:06,499 It also predicts that when objects move, they generate a pulse... 455 00:29:06,666 --> 00:29:10,670 ...that propagates through space-time, a bit like waves through water. 456 00:29:13,632 --> 00:29:18,345 These gravitational waves have never been directly observed. 457 00:29:18,511 --> 00:29:21,264 They would be small and hard to detect... 458 00:29:21,431 --> 00:29:25,810 ...unless they were generated by a massively violent motion. 459 00:29:27,354 --> 00:29:30,398 Like the birth of the universe. 460 00:29:33,568 --> 00:29:36,446 Physicists developed their big bang theory... 461 00:29:36,613 --> 00:29:41,534 ...in part by observing that today the universe is expanding. 462 00:29:42,744 --> 00:29:48,333 Galaxies are moving away from each other like raisins in a rising loaf of bread... 463 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,297 ...which suggests that in the distant past, the universe must have been much smaller. 464 00:29:54,464 --> 00:29:59,094 CARROLL: If you wind the movie backwards, in the past, everything was closer together... 465 00:29:59,260 --> 00:30:04,224 ...and you plug that idea into the equations that Einstein gives us. 466 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:08,770 And there's a moment, which we now know was about 14 billion years ago... 467 00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:10,981 ...when everything was on top of everything else... 468 00:30:11,147 --> 00:30:15,819 ...when the density of stuff in the universe was apparently infinitely big. 469 00:30:18,613 --> 00:30:22,909 NARRATOR: Then a powerful force triggered an expansion of space itself. 470 00:30:23,076 --> 00:30:28,540 Faster than the speed of light, a theory called cosmic inflation. 471 00:30:28,707 --> 00:30:34,462 And the theory said that this inflation should've taken fluctuations in the shape of space... 472 00:30:34,629 --> 00:30:37,841 ...and amplified them so they got much stronger. 473 00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:41,386 And they become gravitational waves... 474 00:30:41,553 --> 00:30:45,473 ...producing ripples in the fabric of space and time. 475 00:30:46,641 --> 00:30:48,852 NARRATOR: If we could detect those ripples today... 476 00:30:49,019 --> 00:30:52,188 ...it would help us understand how the big bang banged. 477 00:30:52,355 --> 00:30:55,066 BOCK: The trick was always how were we going to measure such a thing. 478 00:30:55,233 --> 00:30:57,110 And that led us to propose and develop... 479 00:30:57,277 --> 00:31:00,155 ...this very specialized experiment, um... 480 00:31:00,321 --> 00:31:04,993 ...which one of my colleagues referred to gleefully as a wild-goose chase. 481 00:31:06,202 --> 00:31:10,749 NARRATOR: Caltech physicist Jamie Bock works in experimental cosmology. 482 00:31:10,915 --> 00:31:14,252 BOCK: Experimental cosmology is building experiments... 483 00:31:14,419 --> 00:31:16,713 ...trying to get back to the dawn of time. 484 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,922 You need a hand with that? 485 00:31:18,089 --> 00:31:19,924 NARRATOR: The focus of his latest experiment... 486 00:31:20,091 --> 00:31:21,843 ...was the oldest light in the universe. 487 00:31:22,177 --> 00:31:26,056 The faint afterglow of the big bang. 488 00:31:26,222 --> 00:31:30,143 Physicists have mapped this cosmic microwave background... 489 00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:32,520 ...across the universe. 490 00:31:33,563 --> 00:31:37,442 If the birth of the universe produced gravitational waves... 491 00:31:37,609 --> 00:31:39,444 ...they would've warped this primordial light... 492 00:31:39,611 --> 00:31:44,199 ...and caused it to be polarized or curled in a specific direction. 493 00:31:44,365 --> 00:31:46,159 BOCK: If one could measure the polarization... 494 00:31:46,326 --> 00:31:48,870 ...and then not only measure it but look at its pattern... 495 00:31:49,037 --> 00:31:51,206 ...there might be kind of a swirly pattern... 496 00:31:51,372 --> 00:31:54,459 ...that would be an indicator of gravitational waves. 497 00:31:56,002 --> 00:32:00,507 NARRATOR: Jamie and his team designed a series of small super-sensitive telescopes... 498 00:32:01,633 --> 00:32:04,719 ...that they installed where the skies are crystal clear. 499 00:32:04,886 --> 00:32:06,888 At the South Pole. 500 00:32:07,514 --> 00:32:10,225 BOCK: The South Pole is the closest we can get to outer space... 501 00:32:10,391 --> 00:32:11,726 ...to make our measurements. 502 00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:17,982 NARRATOR: For eight years, the team's telescopes scanned a patch in the sky... 503 00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:20,610 ...measuring minute differences in the temperature... 504 00:32:20,777 --> 00:32:23,113 ...of the cosmic microwave background... 505 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:24,948 ...and a pattern emerged. 506 00:32:25,115 --> 00:32:30,453 BOCK: Our results reported that we see this swirly pattern of polarization... 507 00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:34,916 ...that's consistent with, uh, what you expect from gravitational waves. 508 00:32:35,708 --> 00:32:39,420 THORNE: So they didn't really see the gravitational waves from the early universe... 509 00:32:39,587 --> 00:32:43,424 ...but they saw this polarization pattern that was precisely what was predicted... 510 00:32:43,591 --> 00:32:46,094 ...except that it was stronger than expected. 511 00:32:46,719 --> 00:32:49,681 Tells us what went on immediately after the big bang... 512 00:32:49,848 --> 00:32:54,185 ...when the universe was a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second old. 513 00:32:54,352 --> 00:32:57,564 So it's seeing almost the creation of the universe. 514 00:32:58,898 --> 00:33:02,527 NARRATOR: The finding must be confirmed by other experiments. 515 00:33:02,694 --> 00:33:07,031 If it holds up, this first evidence for the detection of gravitational waves... 516 00:33:07,198 --> 00:33:11,244 ...will deepen our understanding of the birth of the universe. 517 00:33:12,787 --> 00:33:18,543 And that, by extension, may help us answer an enduring question: 518 00:33:18,918 --> 00:33:20,879 Can we time travel? 519 00:33:21,045 --> 00:33:23,339 CARROLL: You know, it's very easy to travel in time. 520 00:33:23,506 --> 00:33:26,551 Yesterday, I've moved forward 24 hours and here I am. 521 00:33:26,718 --> 00:33:30,096 But that's the only way that it's easy. It's easy to go into the future. 522 00:33:30,263 --> 00:33:34,517 In fact, it's not just easy, it's inevitable. We all move into the future over time. 523 00:33:35,268 --> 00:33:38,897 NARRATOR: But traveling to the past is a different story... 524 00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:42,942 ...because space and time have profoundly different properties. 525 00:33:43,484 --> 00:33:46,738 In space, you can go up, down, left, right, forward, backward. 526 00:33:48,323 --> 00:33:52,035 NARRATOR: We move freely through the three dimensions of space. 527 00:33:52,202 --> 00:33:56,956 In time, we experience its one dimension and a lot less freedom. 528 00:33:57,498 --> 00:34:00,210 CARROLL: Because time has a direction and space does not. 529 00:34:00,376 --> 00:34:02,212 In time, there's a huge difference... 530 00:34:02,378 --> 00:34:05,548 ...between one direction, the future, and the other direction, the past. 531 00:34:05,715 --> 00:34:09,761 For example, you remember the past, but you don't remember the future. 532 00:34:09,928 --> 00:34:12,472 You were younger in the past, we were all younger in the past. 533 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,225 We will all be older. It's all universal to us. 534 00:34:17,894 --> 00:34:21,356 This arrow of time is a little bit mysterious. 535 00:34:21,522 --> 00:34:23,524 We understand the basic underpinnings... 536 00:34:23,691 --> 00:34:27,320 ...in a concept called entropy, the disorderliness of the universe. 537 00:34:28,905 --> 00:34:32,492 NARRATOR: Entropy is the measure of the disorder in a system. 538 00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:36,037 The more ordered a system, the lower its entropy. 539 00:34:38,456 --> 00:34:42,210 The more disordered a system, the higher its entropy. 540 00:34:42,543 --> 00:34:46,965 A classic example of entropy increasing is just mixing cream into coffee. 541 00:34:47,131 --> 00:34:50,051 When the cream and the coffee are separate, that's low entropy. 542 00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:52,303 They're organized. There's the cream, the coffee. 543 00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:55,181 You pour them together, you let them mix together. 544 00:34:55,515 --> 00:34:58,351 Entropy just goes up. Things become more and more disorderly. 545 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,150 And this goes all the way back 14 billion years to the big bang. 546 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,531 NARRATOR: Back then, all the matter in the universe would have been on top of itself. 547 00:35:11,698 --> 00:35:14,659 Density would have been infinite. 548 00:35:14,826 --> 00:35:17,954 It was the epitome of low entropy. 549 00:35:19,998 --> 00:35:24,168 But entropy has been on the rise ever since the big bang. 550 00:35:24,544 --> 00:35:27,046 CARROLL: We think, but we haven't absolutely established... 551 00:35:27,213 --> 00:35:30,925 ...that this general tendency to go from order to disorder... 552 00:35:31,092 --> 00:35:35,221 ...is the single reason why the past is different from the future. 553 00:35:35,388 --> 00:35:39,642 We can't discount in principle the possibility of visiting the past... 554 00:35:39,809 --> 00:35:43,896 ...but all of these weird puzzles that sort of rub us the wrong way... 555 00:35:44,063 --> 00:35:47,859 ...about if I go back into the past and I give myself a really good idea... 556 00:35:48,026 --> 00:35:51,487 ...and then I grow up and become rich off that idea, where did the idea come from? 557 00:35:51,654 --> 00:35:54,157 These kinds of puzzles would evaporate... 558 00:35:54,324 --> 00:35:57,910 ...if we just said, "Well, the laws of physics don't allow you to visit the past." 559 00:35:58,077 --> 00:36:00,288 So that's probably true. 560 00:36:01,581 --> 00:36:05,752 NARRATOR: To contemplate the mysteries of space, time and the universe... 561 00:36:05,918 --> 00:36:08,546 ...can make a person feel mighty small. 562 00:36:08,713 --> 00:36:13,343 Maybe it's best to lower our sights, hunker down and focus on planet Earth. 563 00:36:14,385 --> 00:36:18,014 But that's not really an option for humanity in the long run. 564 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:25,313 Interstellar depicts a future where living conditions on Earth are grim. 565 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,234 Our mission does not work if the people on Earth are dead by the time we pull it off. 566 00:36:30,693 --> 00:36:33,071 NARRATOR: Failing crops. 567 00:36:33,446 --> 00:36:35,448 Clouds of dust. 568 00:36:37,033 --> 00:36:39,494 Roads clogged with refugees. 569 00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:41,204 Sound familiar? 570 00:36:43,831 --> 00:36:47,293 That's because we've lived through this scenario before. 571 00:36:48,127 --> 00:36:51,589 In the 1930s, the Great Plains were hit by extreme drought. 572 00:36:52,382 --> 00:36:55,468 Farmers had plowed up native grasslands. 573 00:36:55,635 --> 00:37:01,015 When crops failed, unprotected topsoil billowed into clouds that darkened the sky for days. 574 00:37:03,518 --> 00:37:07,855 Some 400,000 people lost nearly everything during the dust bowl. 575 00:37:08,189 --> 00:37:12,527 One of America's worst man-made ecological disasters. 576 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:19,909 It was the model for the calamity depicted in Interstellar. 577 00:37:21,661 --> 00:37:24,622 NOLAN: I really wanted to try and bring the audiences' attention... 578 00:37:24,789 --> 00:37:28,042 ...to the idea that this sort of thing really can happen. 579 00:37:28,209 --> 00:37:32,463 And it struck me that the imagery that you can find... 580 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:36,008 ...was so much more extraordinary than anything you see in a science fiction film. 581 00:37:36,175 --> 00:37:39,887 And, indeed, in our portrayal of it, we had to frankly water it down. 582 00:37:40,638 --> 00:37:43,850 NARRATOR: But we'd never let a dust bowl happen again, would we? 583 00:37:47,353 --> 00:37:52,442 In recent years, cities in the American Southwest, especially Texas... 584 00:37:52,608 --> 00:37:55,361 ...have been battered by huge dust storms. 585 00:37:55,820 --> 00:38:00,116 They've caused fatal traffic accidents and damaged infrastructure. 586 00:38:00,283 --> 00:38:04,912 The causes are frighteningly familiar to UCLA geographer Greg Okin... 587 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:08,541 ...an expert on the dynamics of wind and dust. 588 00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:10,835 OKIN: We have wind-erodible soil. 589 00:38:11,002 --> 00:38:13,838 We have agriculture that's disturbed the native vegetation. 590 00:38:14,005 --> 00:38:17,550 We have bare ground because crops fail. 591 00:38:17,717 --> 00:38:19,427 And we have windy conditions. 592 00:38:19,594 --> 00:38:24,599 So all of the same things that happened in the dust bowl are happening now. 593 00:38:26,225 --> 00:38:29,979 NARRATOR: Models of climate change predict higher global temperatures. 594 00:38:30,146 --> 00:38:32,690 That probably means more droughts. 595 00:38:33,399 --> 00:38:36,527 Economic pressures may lead to increased farming of wildlands. 596 00:38:38,529 --> 00:38:42,742 If crops fail due to drought, that could mean more dust. 597 00:38:43,117 --> 00:38:44,911 OKIN: It could happen in China. 598 00:38:45,077 --> 00:38:46,621 It could happen in Africa. 599 00:38:46,787 --> 00:38:51,417 Any of these factors, when they're in place, could cause what we have called the dust bowl. 600 00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:54,378 NARRATOR: And to make matters worse... 601 00:38:55,046 --> 00:38:59,342 ...dust is much dirtier today than it was in the 1930s. 602 00:38:59,509 --> 00:39:04,222 OKIN: The dust that is interacting with clouds of pollution from cities... 603 00:39:04,388 --> 00:39:06,849 ...in urban and industrial activities, um... 604 00:39:07,016 --> 00:39:12,063 ...that actually does appear to also be more noxious than regular dust. 605 00:39:12,939 --> 00:39:17,568 NARRATOR: Winds blow dust across oceans and continents and into our lungs. 606 00:39:17,735 --> 00:39:21,447 Dust, particularly for kids with asthma, is a really big problem. 607 00:39:21,614 --> 00:39:23,533 There's actually quite good evidence... 608 00:39:23,699 --> 00:39:28,788 ...for dust being correlated with pediatric hospital admissions. 609 00:39:28,955 --> 00:39:31,374 That's where the really clear evidence is. 610 00:39:32,667 --> 00:39:35,920 NARRATOR: No one predicted the dust bowl of the 1930s. 611 00:39:36,087 --> 00:39:38,172 Today, we should know better. 612 00:39:38,339 --> 00:39:41,968 OKIN: We learned the important lesson that poorly-planned human activity... 613 00:39:42,134 --> 00:39:47,306 ...plus unexpected climate variability can lead to disaster. 614 00:39:47,473 --> 00:39:49,559 There's a lot to worry about. 615 00:39:51,394 --> 00:39:54,647 NARRATOR: Sadly, we don't have a great track record taking care of Mother Earth. 616 00:39:56,232 --> 00:40:01,362 But the planet is also threatened by forces far beyond our control. 617 00:40:05,575 --> 00:40:08,119 February 15th, 2013... 618 00:40:10,329 --> 00:40:14,542 ...a meteor shining brighter than the sun streaks across Siberia. 619 00:40:15,209 --> 00:40:18,170 It's a rock 65 feet in diameter... 620 00:40:18,337 --> 00:40:22,216 ...and when it explodes in midair, it releases more than 20 times the energy... 621 00:40:22,383 --> 00:40:25,094 ...of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. 622 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,388 [SCREAMING] 623 00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:35,646 No one was killed, but more than a thousand people were injured. 624 00:40:37,898 --> 00:40:40,568 Asteroids have struck Earth before. 625 00:40:40,735 --> 00:40:42,570 Some 65 million years ago... 626 00:40:42,945 --> 00:40:47,742 ...a monster 6 miles wide may have wiped out half the species on Earth. 627 00:40:47,908 --> 00:40:50,077 Remember the dinosaurs? 628 00:40:50,244 --> 00:40:53,456 A similar impact, or worse, could happen any time... 629 00:40:53,956 --> 00:40:57,335 ...and turn our blue marble into a lifeless rock. 630 00:40:59,545 --> 00:41:00,838 And the bottom line? 631 00:41:01,005 --> 00:41:03,966 Earth cannot sustain us forever. 632 00:41:04,759 --> 00:41:08,971 In a few billion years, our sun will expand as it begins to die... 633 00:41:10,848 --> 00:41:13,643 ...and our planet will be toast. 634 00:41:17,271 --> 00:41:18,481 But there's good news. 635 00:41:18,648 --> 00:41:19,982 Unlike the dinosaurs-- 636 00:41:20,149 --> 00:41:22,401 MAN: Flight crew, close and lock your visors. Time to fly. 637 00:41:22,568 --> 00:41:24,236 NARRATOR: --we can leave Earth. 638 00:41:24,403 --> 00:41:26,947 MAN: T-minus-10, nine... 639 00:41:27,114 --> 00:41:28,824 Ignition sequence start. 640 00:41:28,991 --> 00:41:33,954 Six, five, four, three, two, one. 641 00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:36,290 Zero. 642 00:41:40,336 --> 00:41:44,215 Zero and liftoff of space shuttle Atlantis. 643 00:41:44,382 --> 00:41:47,718 NARRATOR: Today, nearly 600 people have traveled to space. 644 00:41:49,553 --> 00:41:54,350 During the shuttle era, Marsha Ivins made the trip five times. 645 00:41:54,517 --> 00:42:00,314 In order to record all of this, um, we have created this, uh, wiring nightmare here. 646 00:42:00,481 --> 00:42:05,111 NARRATOR: At Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, she checks in on an old friend. 647 00:42:06,904 --> 00:42:11,826 IVINS: I look at Atlantis hanging here, it's a surreal kind of experience to think... 648 00:42:12,535 --> 00:42:14,495 ...I flew that into space. 649 00:42:14,662 --> 00:42:17,123 It's still something that I have a hard time believing. 650 00:42:17,289 --> 00:42:18,624 -Hi. -My name is Tanya. 651 00:42:18,791 --> 00:42:20,000 PHOTOGRAPHER: One, two, three. 652 00:42:20,167 --> 00:42:24,004 And it makes me feel good that people still have a wonder... 653 00:42:24,171 --> 00:42:27,800 ...and an amazement and a pure joy... 654 00:42:27,967 --> 00:42:31,971 ...for the fact that we did fly this vehicle into space. 655 00:42:32,513 --> 00:42:37,351 NARRATOR: For Marsha, each mission was as breathtaking as her first. 656 00:42:37,518 --> 00:42:39,603 IVINS: I looked up overhead... 657 00:42:39,770 --> 00:42:45,985 ...and here was this black sky and this blue Earth. 658 00:42:46,152 --> 00:42:50,656 All hits you at that point, "I am not on the planet anymore." 659 00:42:51,031 --> 00:42:54,910 And every astronaut who has flown has come back and said the same thing. 660 00:42:55,077 --> 00:42:56,829 As you circle the Earth... 661 00:42:56,996 --> 00:43:02,710 ...you do not see natural borders and boundaries that separate the countries. 662 00:43:02,877 --> 00:43:08,090 And all of the wars and the angst and the strife that tear this planet apart... 663 00:43:08,257 --> 00:43:11,135 ...seem so insignificant from that view. 664 00:43:12,428 --> 00:43:13,637 NOLAN: To me... 665 00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:19,852 ...space travel, space exploration has always represented the ultimate frontier. 666 00:43:20,019 --> 00:43:23,898 It's of the absolute extremities of what human experience is... 667 00:43:24,064 --> 00:43:28,235 ...and it's all about trying to, in some way, define our place in the universe. 668 00:43:28,402 --> 00:43:32,072 MAN: Forty seconds away from the Apollo 11 liftoff. 669 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,908 JONATHAN: I remember growing up as a kid... 670 00:43:34,074 --> 00:43:37,953 ...and we were both fascinated by this impulse to flight. 671 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:44,293 This impulse to build unimaginable machines and use them to blast off into space. 672 00:43:45,294 --> 00:43:51,091 MAN: Having fired the imagination of a generation, pulls into port for the last time. 673 00:43:51,258 --> 00:43:54,011 NARRATOR: The space shuttles were retired in 2011... 674 00:43:54,178 --> 00:43:57,515 ...after traveling more than a half billion miles. 675 00:43:59,934 --> 00:44:03,145 Space exploration demands enormous resources. 676 00:44:03,312 --> 00:44:06,607 The kind that government agencies like NASA can marshal. 677 00:44:07,858 --> 00:44:10,653 Recently, some new players entered the fray. 678 00:44:11,695 --> 00:44:14,865 MUSK: I do think we're at the dawn of a new space era... 679 00:44:15,032 --> 00:44:17,618 ...and it's one where commercial companies play a stronger role. 680 00:44:17,785 --> 00:44:19,328 NASA's not out of the picture. 681 00:44:19,495 --> 00:44:25,209 They're very much in the picture, but it's not all a NASA-designed system. 682 00:44:26,043 --> 00:44:31,090 NARRATOR: In 2002, Elon Musk started his own rocket company. 683 00:44:31,257 --> 00:44:34,301 A decade later, under contract to NASA... 684 00:44:34,468 --> 00:44:38,514 ...Spacex became the first private company in history to carry supplies... 685 00:44:38,681 --> 00:44:41,141 ...to and from the International Space Station. 686 00:44:44,979 --> 00:44:48,691 Now Spacex is tackling an even greater challenge. 687 00:44:48,858 --> 00:44:53,404 MUSK: I started Spacex with the idea of trying to revolutionize space transport. 688 00:44:53,571 --> 00:44:57,992 And critical to that is full and rapid reusability of the rocket. 689 00:44:59,326 --> 00:45:02,705 The big issue with rocketry today is you get one use out of the rocket... 690 00:45:02,872 --> 00:45:07,501 ...and then it smashes down into the ocean or into the plains of Siberia, um... 691 00:45:07,668 --> 00:45:09,378 ...and you can't use it again. 692 00:45:10,963 --> 00:45:13,799 If you can, in fact, land the rocket safely... 693 00:45:13,966 --> 00:45:16,594 ...and then reuse it with a minimal amount of effort... 694 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,308 ...then you can dramatically reduce the cost of space transport. 695 00:45:22,474 --> 00:45:27,688 NARRATOR: Spacex is currently developing a fully and rapidly reusable launch system. 696 00:45:27,855 --> 00:45:30,649 And that will take Elon closer to a more ambitious goal: 697 00:45:31,609 --> 00:45:36,405 To help send crews to establish a colony on Mars. 698 00:45:37,114 --> 00:45:39,825 Not a mission for the fainthearted. 699 00:45:40,492 --> 00:45:42,077 MUSK: Anyone who wants to go to Mars... 700 00:45:42,244 --> 00:45:47,875 ...their desire for adventure would have to overcome their desire for comfort and safety. 701 00:45:48,876 --> 00:45:53,339 NARRATOR: The colony on Mars could be the next giant leap for humankind. 702 00:45:53,505 --> 00:45:56,634 NOLAN: It's such a fundamental idea when you think about it. 703 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,471 It's just a decision that has to be made in terms of how you view the-- 704 00:46:00,638 --> 00:46:02,890 The human race's place in the universe. 705 00:46:03,057 --> 00:46:09,104 We either stay here on Earth or we leave and we journey through the galaxy. 706 00:46:12,399 --> 00:46:15,194 NARRATOR: To create the look of the space technology in Interstellar... 707 00:46:15,361 --> 00:46:18,781 ...Christopher Nolan took a clear design approach. 708 00:46:18,948 --> 00:46:22,868 NOLAN: We didn't wanna have anything that felt purely decorative. 709 00:46:23,035 --> 00:46:26,789 We wanted to approach it from a more functional point of view... 710 00:46:26,956 --> 00:46:28,916 ...just be as convincing as possible... 711 00:46:29,083 --> 00:46:31,710 ...looking at the NASA technology that exists today... 712 00:46:31,877 --> 00:46:34,922 ...the International Space Station, these kind of things as our influences. 713 00:46:36,215 --> 00:46:40,260 NARRATOR: There's no telling how space technology will evolve in the years to come. 714 00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:46,433 We may be decades away or longer from establishing a colony on Mars... 715 00:46:46,934 --> 00:46:50,187 ...or a permanent habitat in orbit around the Earth. 716 00:46:50,354 --> 00:46:53,565 But people around the world are dreaming of that next step. 717 00:46:56,235 --> 00:46:58,904 At a recent space conference... 718 00:46:59,071 --> 00:47:01,073 ...NASA and the National Space Society... 719 00:47:01,407 --> 00:47:05,369 ...handed out awards to dozens of forward-looking designs. 720 00:47:07,788 --> 00:47:11,000 A self-sustaining settlement for 20,000 people. 721 00:47:12,543 --> 00:47:16,463 A moon base that mines minerals from lunar soil. 722 00:47:17,006 --> 00:47:20,384 A fleet of robots that clean up space junk. 723 00:47:20,551 --> 00:47:23,012 But, of course, this is hard because we're burning fuel... 724 00:47:23,178 --> 00:47:26,557 NARRATOR: There's not a single PhD among the prize-winning designers. 725 00:47:26,724 --> 00:47:28,892 [SINGING IN SPANISH] 726 00:47:30,144 --> 00:47:33,480 NARRATOR: These are middle and high school students from around the world. 727 00:47:33,647 --> 00:47:39,278 What first inspired me was the sky, the stars, the moon, the planets. 728 00:47:39,445 --> 00:47:44,533 Thinking about going to space is really exhilarating. 729 00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:48,829 I've always wanted to know, like, what's next? And for me, space is next. 730 00:47:48,996 --> 00:47:51,248 What we can do is beyond our imagination. 731 00:47:51,623 --> 00:47:57,713 For the survival of the human race, really, the only option is to go into space. 732 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,592 It should be something that-- A first step we should take as a world. 733 00:48:01,759 --> 00:48:05,137 NARRATOR: One of these kids may stand on Mars someday... 734 00:48:05,304 --> 00:48:07,514 ...or make a breakthrough in propulsion systems... 735 00:48:08,015 --> 00:48:10,559 ...or start a revolution in astrophysics. 736 00:48:11,935 --> 00:48:16,023 To inspire their kind of enthusiasm is the hope of the Interstellar team. 737 00:48:16,565 --> 00:48:19,026 THOMAS: I would love for kids to watch Interstellar... 738 00:48:19,193 --> 00:48:23,322 ...and get excited about possibilities of space travel and exploration. 739 00:48:23,655 --> 00:48:28,952 I would hope that this film introduces many people to science... 740 00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,873 ...who might not have gotten curious about this kind of science in any other way. 741 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,710 I think it would be really thrilling if people got some sense from this film... 742 00:48:36,877 --> 00:48:39,505 ...that, uh, these ideas are worth thinking about. 743 00:48:42,216 --> 00:48:44,968 NARRATOR: The interplay between science and science fiction... 744 00:48:45,135 --> 00:48:47,763 ...springs from a deep-seated creative drive. 745 00:48:51,266 --> 00:48:52,601 To make sense of the unknown. 746 00:49:01,110 --> 00:49:02,694 To engineer new worlds. 747 00:49:07,783 --> 00:49:09,535 To dream up a better future. 748 00:49:10,786 --> 00:49:14,206 We'll find answers where we always have: 749 00:49:14,873 --> 00:49:17,459 Just beyond the next horizon. 74420

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