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"Moments Of Pleasure" by Kate Bush.
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For those people who don't
know who Kate Bush is
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and completely forgotten
who she may have been,
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she is the waif-like singer
and songwriter who had
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an enormous hit with her first
eerie single, Wuthering Heights.
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♪ Out on the wily, windy moors
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♪ We'd roll and fall in green. ♪
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She was an original, a
rarity in the pop world,
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where so many performers look
and sound much the same.
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♪ She signed the letter "All yours"
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♪ "Babooshka, Babooshka
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♪ "Babooskah, ya, ya". ♪
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- Is it a bird, is it a plane, is it a tree?
- No, no, no, it's a Bush.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Kate Bush.
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"Wow" by Kate Bush.
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- Kate Bush.
- Kate Bush.
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♪ Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow-ah! ♪
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Just like fire, you know? It's all
just, like, coming out of her mouth.
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"Army Dreamer" by Kate Bush.
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She has made her performances
into something of an art form,
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mingling dance and mime
and all kinds of theatre.
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"Sat In Your Lap"
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I mean, they're not normal songs.
None of her songs have been normal.
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♪ I see the people working. ♪
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She's just who she is. She's
unique, she's a mystery.
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She's the most beautiful mystery.
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There were moments of, like,
hairbrush in the mirror,
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like, Running Up That Hill and
dancing round the lounge.
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♪ And if I only could
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♪ Make a deal with God. ♪
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The music speaks for itself,
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but liking her makes you feel a bit clever.
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♪ We're running up that road. ♪
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Hours I've been in my room by
myself, through good times
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and bad times, and listened
to her on headphones
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and her taking me away from my stress.
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♪ I'd be running up that hill. ♪
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Let me tell you a story.
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When I had my civil partnership
nine years ago in 2005, and Kate,
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we invited Kate.
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We didn't think she'd come but
she came with her husband Danny,
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and there were a lot of very
famous people in that room.
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There was, like, 600 people,
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and all anybody wanted
to meet was Kate Bush.
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I mean, musician, anybody,
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they couldn't believe Kate Bush was there.
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She's kind of an enigma.
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I don't think she's ever
particularly wanted to play
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the game, has she?
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But I think when you've done
great work like she's done,
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and then you retract from the public,
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people almost have to make up their
own version of you, don't they?
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You can hear one note of a Kate Bush song,
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or one note of her voice, even,
and know immediately what it is,
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and that is the biggest feat of any artist,
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especially when you consider all
the roads that she's gone down.
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"Wuthering Heights"
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♪ Out on the wily, windy moors
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♪ We'd roll and fall in green. ♪
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When Kate Bush came along, sort
of '78, I was in The Slits,
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and I remember, I was sitting in a
van outside our singer's house,
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waiting to go and do a gig,
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and Wuthering Heights came on the
radio, and I was like, "Huh?
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"What's this?!", and I kept
waiting for the melody to repeat,
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because at that time,
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pop music was very much, you know,
Radio One was repeating melodies
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very quickly, and this melody
meandered on in this high
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pitched voice, warbling and dropping,
but I was absolutely spellbound.
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♪ Wuthering, Wuthering Heights. ♪
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When I first heard it, I thought
it was extremely challenging.
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The vocal was almost hysterical,
and so up there, the register.
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But it was absolutely fascinating.
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I know at the time a lot of
my friends couldn't bear it.
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They just thought it was too much,
but that's exactly what drew me in.
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♪ Bad dreams in the night
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♪ Told me I was going to lose the fight
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♪ Leave behind my
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♪ Wuthering, Wuthering Wuthering Heights
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♪ Heathcliff... ♪
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Look! I can see Wuthering Heights!
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Well, I saw a series on the
television about ten years ago
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and it was on very late at night,
and I caught literally the last
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five minutes of the series, where she
was at the window trying to get in.
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Who are you?
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I'm Catherine Linton.
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Oh!
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I've come home.
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And it just really struck me. It was so strong.
And I read the book.
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You read the book later?
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Yeah, I read the book
before I wrote the song,
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because I needed to get the mood properly.
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I'd never heard anything like it before.
It was like banshee music.
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♪ Too long I roam in the night. ♪
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This absolute otherworldly
voice, singing about a book.
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♪ To Wuthering, Wuthering
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♪ Wuthering Heights
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♪ Heathcliff... ♪
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As a bookish kid, I was always
fascinated by anything,
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any music that seems to
be inspired by books.
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For that to have come out
of someone's brain, period,
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is a remarkable feat.
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For that to have come out of
someone's brain at 17 years old,
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this incredible song. Incredible song.
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♪ I'm coming back, love
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♪ Cruel Heathcliff
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♪ My one dream
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♪ My only master. ♪
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There aren't that many amazing
pop songs that have two or three
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key changes in them, and I'm
not talking modulations,
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I'm talking, like, "OK, now we're
in the key of Q." You know,
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it's like, "What?!", but it's so
brilliant, it's so memorable.
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I always karaoke that
song if I drink enough.
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♪ Heathcliff...
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♪ It's me-ah, Cathy, I'm come home. ♪
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Wuthering Heights was not
your normal type song.
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But that's why it was so brilliant.
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It was great to hear
something out of the norm.
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When things like that come along,
they don't come along very often.
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I mean, when does the next Kate
Bush come along after Kate Bush?
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There hasn't been one.
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"Aerial Tal" by Kate Bush.
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- Now, let's get back to the beginnings. You're 19 now.
- 20. - 20?
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- Yeah, just. - And you're from Kent.
- Yeah. - Is Kate Bush your own name?
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- Yes, it is. - Now, you're father's a doctor.
- Yes. - Is it a musical family?
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My brothers are very musical.
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They were really responsible for turning me
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on to it in the first place.
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They were always playing
music when I was a kid.
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Her brothers were a big part of it.
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They were very much, in her early
days, her formative years,
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particularly people like Paddy.
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I mean, he was having all these
musical ideas coming in,
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he had all these strange musical
things that he was into,
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lots of strange musical instruments
and various forms of music,
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and he would run those past her
and lots of it would stick.
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What do you call it?
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It's called a strumento di
porco, that's it's real name.
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- You're Kate's brother, aren't you?
- Yeah, afraid so.
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- Is it a sort of a family business, really?
- Well, yes and no.
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I mean, Kate and I have been making
music together for years and years.
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On different levels, but there's
always been music in our family.
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When I was young, it was really the
music that my brothers played,
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and I'd picked out the stuff that I
liked and listened to it with them.
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What kind of music did they play?
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They were into King Crimson at that time,
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and Pink Floyd and Blind Faith,
Fleetwood Mac, that sort of thing.
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When you went to visit the
family house, East Wickham,
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it sort of reminded me of my
parents' house in some ways.
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It was a comfortable, middle class
doctor's house with a nice garden.
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Yet, out of that had grown
this strange creature that was
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doing wonderful things.
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- When did you start writing songs?
- I must have been 11 or 12.
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When did the music men come
to hear about you, and how?
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That was quite a gradual process.
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When I was about 14, there was a
friend of my brother's called.
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Ricky Hopper, who was in the business
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and he knew a lot of people,
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and he acted as a friend to try
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and get the tapes across to people,
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and after some trying,
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there was no response,
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and he knew Dave Gilmour from the.
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Pink Floyd, and Dave came along
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to hear me, because at that time, he
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was scouting for struggling artists.
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I had a listen. I was intrigued
by this strange voice.
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I went to her house, met
her parents down in Kent,
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and she played me, God, it must
have been 40 or 50 songs...
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on tape, and I thought I
should try and do something.
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♪ I hear him
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♪ Before I go to sleep
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♪ And focus on the day that's been
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♪ I realise he's there
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♪ When I turn the light off. ♪
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Dave Gilmour put up the money for
me to make a proper demo with
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arrangements and selected songs
and we took it to the company.
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We were making, Pink Floyd, that is,
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were making the Wish You Were
Here album, and I think we had
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the record company people down
at Abbey Road in number three.
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♪ And suddenly I find myself... ♪
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And I said to them, "Do you want
to hear something I've got?"
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And they said, "Sure",
so we found another room
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and I played it to them, The Man
With The Child In His Eyes,
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and they said, "Yeah, thank
you, we'll have it!"
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♪ He's here again
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♪ The man with the child in his eyes
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♪ Ooh, he's here again... ♪
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The Man With The Child In His
Eyes is still one of those things
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that right from the
get-go, has its own life
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because it's just a great song
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and she has, you know, for all the
time that she or I or anyone spent
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decorating and creating moods,
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it's actually the key element of
what you're saying, the melody
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and the chords and the rhythm
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that still speak louder than all
the stuff around on a great song.
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♪ Ooh, he's here again... ♪
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It is absolutely beautiful, isn't it?
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And it's sort of over two years
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before any of the other recordings she did,
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that is her singing at the age of 16
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and having written those
extraordinary lyrics
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about... whatever they're about.
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The thing is with me, I
only like extreme talent,
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that's the only thing I can listen
to, and I like originators.
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Where does Kate Bush come from?
You can't hear her influences,
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you know, it's like Billie Holiday,
when I first heard Billie Holiday,
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I'd never heard anything
like that in my life.
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The same with Kate Bush. I can't
figure out musically, artistically,
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who her mother and father is.
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"Hang On To Yourself" by David Bowie.
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♪ Well, she's a tongue-twisting storm
She'll come to the show tonight
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♪ Praying to the light machine
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♪ She wants my honey Not my money... ♪
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Somebody told me that she was
at a '73 gig at Ziggy Stardust.
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I'm like, "Are you sure?" Everybody
seems to have been at that gig.
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Yet, we were there.
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♪ We've really got a good thing going... ♪
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It was a great gig. He's
one of those people
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that have had an influence on her
in a weird sort of way, you know.
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It's not obvious, but you know, people do.
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♪ Make me a deal And make it straight... ♪
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She was aware of Roxy Music, Brian
Eno and people like that, you know,
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she was aware of a lot of people.
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A lot of people had an influence on her.
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♪ I hope and pray He don't blow it cos
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♪ We've been around a long time
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♪ Trying, just trying, just
trying to make the big time
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♪ Take me on a roller coaster... ♪
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Kate, having seeing me,
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probably, yeah, the first
time working with Bowie,
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I mean, she wanted to be
a performer like that,
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nothing like Bowie but to move like that.
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And, of course, she had seen Flowers,
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as had everyone at that time.
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I went to see a show,
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and it was Lindsay Kemp
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and really, I'd never seen
anything like it before,
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and what he was doing was,
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he was using movement
without any sound at all,
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something I had never experienced,
and he was expressing so much,
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probably more than most people
would express with their mouths
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and it suddenly dawned on me
that there was a whole new world
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of expression that I hadn't even realised.
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I was teaching at the Dance
Centre in Covent Garden.
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Kate turned up dressed very properly
in her ballet tights and things
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and her hair scraped back, looking
very, very professional indeed,
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very, very serious student,
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but as timid as hell,
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and of course, she took a place
at the back of the class
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and I had to coax her forward.
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I mean, she was extremely
shy, extremely timid,
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and of course, the first thing I had to do
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was bring her out of
herself, give her courage.
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I have to say that once Kate
actually started dancing,
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she was a wild thing. I mean, she was wild.
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One day, some months after knowing her,
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I got back to my home in Battersea
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and there was an LP pushed under
the door, The Kick Inside,
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and there, dedicated to me, was
this beautiful song, Moving.
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♪ How I'm moved
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♪ How you move me
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♪ With your beauty's potency... ♪
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I didn't know she had any
aspirations to being a singer.
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She never talked about herself.
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♪ Here come old flattop He
come grooving up slowly
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♪ He got juju eyeball
He one holy roller... ♪
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I met her for the first
time in the spring of '77
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and we went around to her
brother's house to meet her
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because we wanted to get a
band together to do some pubs
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and the idea was, we'd get
his sister to sing because
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we might be able to get a few more
gigs if we had a girl singer.
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"James and the Cold Gun."
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And so we got that band together,
we had a few rehearsals,
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we did lots of covers but we did
things like James and the Cold Gun,
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Heavy People, all that kind of stuff,
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we did embryonic persons of those.
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♪ James, come on home... ♪
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The first time you sang in
public, do you remember that?
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Yeah, that was about two years
ago in a pub in Lewisham.
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And I was so scared, I really was.
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And I knew from day one,
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I knew, there was no way this
girl's not going to make it.
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She's going to be a huge success,
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there is no way, because
she was so driven for it
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and her enthusiasm for it was infectious.
286
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Now we have a young person,
Basil Bush's sister,
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who, as you know,
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was responsible for that
great hit, Withering Tights.
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Kate Bush and the Bushwhackers.
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- ♪ Rolling the ball.
- Rolling
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- ♪ Rolling the ball.
- Rolling
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♪ Rolling the ball to me... ♪
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The early vocal style is
really acrobatic, isn't it?
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It's very, almost sort of
vocal gymnastics, isn't it?
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Jumping around all over the place.
296
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She's almost still finding her...
finding her style a little bit.
297
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It's quite kooky and strange.
298
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♪ They made me look at myself
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♪ I saw it was... ♪
300
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'When I first started singing, I
had an incredibly plain voice.'
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I mean, I could sing in tune,
but that was about it.
302
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I mean, I really wasn't that good,
303
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and really, all I did was sing every day.
Because I was writing songs,
304
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'I would sing them, and I was
concentrating much more on my writing
305
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'and therefore my voice came through that.'
306
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♪ Them heavy people hit
me in a soft spot... ♪
307
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You can sort of understand the
experimentation of her music
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through thinking about what
she does with her voice
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and she uses it as a kind of fabric
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to sort of pull and push
and almost tear apart
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and she's sort of stretching the fabric,
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not just of her voice but of the
whole kind of pop form, I think.
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♪ Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow
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♪ Unbelievable... ♪
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There are lots of layers to that song,
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but what she's doing with her voice
is just going, "Wow, wow, wow..."
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It's very hypnotic, it's
a bit like a siren,
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and then it whoops up to
a very high register.
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It's like a child,
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it's like a kind of just revelling
in what her voice can do.
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♪ We're all alone on the stage tonight... ♪
322
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It's sort of about her own
melodrama, isn't it? About the...
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About the actor, about
the sadness of vanity.
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♪ We know all our lines so well...
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♪ Ah-hah! ♪
326
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That's what you wanted!
327
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♪ We've said them so many times. ♪
328
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Listening to this on a
record player in suburbia,
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and you're taken, it's like
she takes you by the hand
330
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and you fly off through the sky like
The Snowman or A Christmas Carol.
331
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♪ He's too busy hitting the Vaseline... ♪
332
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"He's too busy hitting the Vaseline."
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I don't know whether that's a gay
reference or not. It's a bit rude.
334
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♪ We'd give you a part... ♪
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You'd give me a part, my love.
336
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♪ But you'd have to play the fool... ♪
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But you'd have to play the fool.
338
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♪ Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow!
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♪ Unbelievable!
340
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♪ Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow
341
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♪ Unbelievable! ♪
342
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Of course, she's a gift for satirists.
343
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Of course, it's easy, because dull
artists, especially in pop music,
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are very difficult to satirise.
345
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"Wuthering Heights"
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♪ I'm so cold, let me
in at your window... ♪
347
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It was all there on a
plate, really, wasn't it?
348
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♪ I'm running up that road
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♪ I'm running up that hill
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♪ No problem
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♪ Rolling the ball... ♪
352
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'It's about misinterpreting
what she meant, you know, '
353
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"It's me, I'm Cathy, I've come home now,
354
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"so cold, let me into your window,"
355
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and I think he goes, "Let me
into your window, whoa-ho-ho!"
356
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Heathcliff!
357
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'As if it's sort of cheeky and sexy
and not about the angst of love.'
358
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♪ So co-o-o-o-o-old, let
me into your window!
359
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♪ Oh-ho!
360
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♪ Heathcliff! ♪
361
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'It was fun to do, people laughed'
362
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and Kate Bush came to the last
night of my show to see it
363
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'when we performed in the West End.'
364
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She said, "It's so nice to
hear all those songs again."
365
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That's what she said!
366
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♪ We're all alone on the stage tonight... ♪
367
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In early January this year,
Kate Bush had never performed
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before an important live audience.
In a sense, she was a media singer.
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When she took the decision to go on tour,
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no-one doubted how important
it could prove to her career.
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"Kite."
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Her early shows were so sensational,
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the one she did at the
Palladium, for example,
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were the benchmark for
people's shows in the future.
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"James And The Cold Gun."
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Aurally, she was who she was,
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but visually, she created a
new standard for people.
378
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- Did you enjoy the show?
- It was lovely. - Did you?
379
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- Are you really happy?
- I'm knocked out. I can't believe that audience.
380
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Now that it has worked so well,
381
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I gather you were a bit worried
beforehand that it would all be OK,
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now it has proved to be so
successful, do you think
383
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you might do a more extensive
tour later in the year?
384
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That really depends.
385
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So much depends on energy
386
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because it can become very tiring,
387
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with the travelling. I don't
know, we have to wait and see.
388
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I hope she doesn't mind me saying this
389
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but it's about 14 years ago, I had
a long, long phone call with her
390
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because I wanted her to do something
391
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and she wouldn't do something live
with me, or do some song with me,
392
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and she rang me to tell me why
393
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and it turned into a
long, long conversation
394
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about performing on stage and
how terrifying it can be,
395
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and how she hadn't done
it for a long, long time
396
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and she felt a little bit,
397
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just a bit scared by the prospect
of going out there again.
398
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I think her early stuff was her
kind of still finding her way.
399
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I don't think that she quite found herself.
400
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Lots of artists need to find their way
401
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and all of that early stuff with
her dancing around in a leotard...
402
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♪ They've got the stars
for the gallant hearts
403
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♪ I'm the replacement for your part... ♪
404
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I don't know, it was all a
little bit am dram, wasn't it?
405
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Some people would have thought,
406
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you know, it looks like she's
come straight out of drama school
407
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and she's learned how
to wave scarves around
408
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and that sort of thing. But to
me, it wasn't really about that.
409
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It was kind of about the whole package
410
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and the sound coming out of
her was just so incredible
411
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that kind of blew every other, you know...
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problem, if you like, away.
People didn't really care
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if she looked a bit naff.
She just sounded amazing.
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♪ Outside
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♪ Gets inside, ooh
416
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♪ Through her skin. ♪
417
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Breathing is a foetal song.
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It's a song of a reincarnated
foetus coming around again,
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terrified of a nuclear war,
420
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terrified of the radioactivity outside,
421
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terrified of the idea that
we won't be able to breathe.
422
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♪ Keep breathing... ♪
423
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Nobody writes songs like that.
424
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It's utterly political
and it's utterly female.
425
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♪ Breathing
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♪ Breathing my mother in
427
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♪ Breathing
428
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♪ My beloved in
429
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♪ Breathing... ♪
430
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It's almost like a reminder
how important women are.
431
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I've had a funny thing, my
mother committed suicide
432
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and my whole career has been
based around my mother.
433
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All around my mother cos I didn't know her,
434
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and you know, just like, "Keep
breathing, breathing my mother in",
435
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that lyric there could be my whole
career and this is what it means.
436
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I'm a kid from a council flat,
437
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I'm a mixed-race guy who
grew up in a white ghetto,
438
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totally different life to Kate Bush,
439
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:46.790
but that lyric, "Keep
breathing my mother in",
440
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my whole career is based on that.
441
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♪ What are we going to do?
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♪ Breathe... ♪
443
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It was like a little symphony.
444
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It had the male choir, like
this call and response,
445
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"What are we going to do?"
446
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And then she's like, "Breathing!"
The way she's singing,
447
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I was just like, "Oh, my
God, what's this woman on?"
448
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- ♪ Are we going to die without...
- Leave me something to breathe... ♪
449
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This is a whole universe I can dive into
450
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and for me, it was very avant-garde
and expressive and kind of...
451
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from a complete different planet
452
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to everything else that you see
from the '80s, like you say,
453
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Duran Duran, you know, on a boat in Rio!
454
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She was definitely out there on her own.
455
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:43.879
It's funny, nobody ever applies the
term "progressive rock" to Kate Bush
456
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but to me, it's prog,
457
00:25:45.280 --> 00:25:48.919
you know, it's everything I
love about the best prog.
458
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.999
It's like, the really sort of
brash stuff which is about
459
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.119
people showing technical
ability, I have no interest in,
460
00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:56.879
but the experimental dreamy stuff
461
00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.159
that sort of came from lots of
different places at once, you know,
462
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.239
I sit her stuff next to...
463
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:06.319
well, next to Genesis, the
obvious comparison as well
464
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because of her story with Peter Gabriel.
465
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♪ Jeux sans frontieres
466
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♪ Jeux sans frontieres
467
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♪ Jeux sans frontieres... ♪
468
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.800
One, two, three, four.
469
00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:31.799
Gabriel used a computerised
instrument called a Fairlight.
470
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Any sound can be fed into it, stored
and played back on its keyboard.
471
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:38.999
What was so exciting was that
472
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.559
you could take any sound
in and then manipulate it.
473
00:26:42.560 --> 00:26:46.519
See, if I pick up this
mike, for an example,
474
00:26:46.520 --> 00:26:49.359
and press S for sample,
475
00:26:49.360 --> 00:26:51.359
we can put in the sound, I hope.
476
00:26:51.360 --> 00:26:52.799
"Mummy!"
477
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Over here, we have the waveform, and
it should be up on the keyboard.
478
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.790
'Mummy! Mummy!'
479
00:26:59.800 --> 00:27:01.719
Every kid can do that with
their phone nowadays,
480
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:06.279
but at the time, it was absolutely
unique and suddenly opened up
481
00:27:06.280 --> 00:27:11.390
these whole sort of continents
of new sound texture.
482
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.959
♪ All yours, Babooshka, Babooshka
483
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.800
♪ Babooshka-ya-ya
484
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:24.200
♪ Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya
485
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:30.790
Well, she did give me a credit on
one record for opening her windows.
486
00:27:30.800 --> 00:27:32.119
I had actually cleaned the windows,
487
00:27:32.120 --> 00:27:35.800
but I'm very happy to get
any acknowledgement.
488
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.959
- ♪ Babooshka.
- She wanted to test her husband
489
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.399
♪ She knew exactly what to do
490
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.719
♪ A pseudonym to fool him
491
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:52.159
♪ She couldn't have made a worse move
492
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.390
♪ She sent him scented letters
493
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:58.959
♪ And he received them
with a strange delight
494
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:00.759
♪ Just like his wife... ♪
495
00:28:00.760 --> 00:28:04.790
The video is so kind of classic Kate Bush
496
00:28:04.800 --> 00:28:08.959
because she does this thing,
whenever she's performing,
497
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.390
which is that she's one version of herself,
498
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.759
and then often when the chorus kicks in...
499
00:28:14.760 --> 00:28:16.879
♪ She signed the letter
500
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.479
♪ All yours, Babooshka... ♪
501
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:23.390
...she becomes this other version,
which is a kind of crazier version
502
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.399
and her eyes get very wide
and the camera zooms in
503
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:31.399
and she's sort of performing this
kind of crazy, unhinged woman,
504
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:35.879
and that's clearly a side to her
that she brings out in these songs.
505
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.919
♪ Shout it out, I'm all yours
506
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:42.639
♪ Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya! ♪
507
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.239
Babooshka's one of those songs
508
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.439
you just can't get out
of your head, can you?
509
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:50.199
You know, how she's able to take a word
510
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.799
and then you start seeing
images and pictures
511
00:28:53.800 --> 00:28:56.879
to a word that maybe you haven't used,
512
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:01.679
it's not as if you're saying,
"Je t'aime." It's Babooshka.
513
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:05.199
And how she's turned that
into, though, an emotion.
514
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:09.399
That's just how she's able to
use a combination of a word
515
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.399
and a combination of a melody
and the rhythm of that,
516
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.239
and it creates a new language.
517
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.359
♪ Babooshka
518
00:29:16.360 --> 00:29:18.599
♪ She wanted to take it further
519
00:29:18.600 --> 00:29:22.199
♪ So she arranged a place to go... ♪
520
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.399
The first song I heard was Babooshka
521
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.519
and like, you know, with the bass
522
00:29:26.520 --> 00:29:30.999
and this amazing relationship
she had with that bass.
523
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:34.199
No-one had done anything like that before
524
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.919
and like, the dance moves
that she was doing
525
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.399
were not things that you would
learn in a dance academy
526
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.639
and the music was not something you'd
learn in a kind of rock school
527
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.790
or a conservatoire of music academy.
528
00:29:48.800 --> 00:29:51.679
What I love about her music
is that it's so innate,
529
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.840
the talent she has is so innate
but perfect, fully formed music.
530
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:01.959
I read an interview with her one time,
531
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:06.319
where she was asked something
along the lines of,
532
00:30:06.320 --> 00:30:09.479
"Why do you write from the
perspective of a lot of characters?"
533
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.439
And she said, very simply and eloquently,
534
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:14.799
"Because they are more
interesting than I am."
535
00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:16.840
"Army Dreamers"
536
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.679
♪ Army dreamers... ♪
537
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:28.999
She seems to have an endless kind
of ability to put herself in
538
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.519
and empathise with different
characters and viewpoints.
539
00:30:32.520 --> 00:30:35.119
♪ What could he do? Should
have been a rock star
540
00:30:35.120 --> 00:30:38.199
♪ But he didn't have the
money for a guitar... ♪
541
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.359
Army Dreamers is a maternal
point of view, you know,
542
00:30:41.360 --> 00:30:44.839
you've got this song about
young squaddies dying.
543
00:30:44.840 --> 00:30:48.359
And the person singing
it, you know, somewhere,
544
00:30:48.360 --> 00:30:52.119
understands what it's like to
be a mother and to lose a son.
545
00:30:52.120 --> 00:30:55.239
♪ Army dreamers
546
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.519
♪ Oh, what a waste of
547
00:30:57.520 --> 00:30:59.679
♪ Army dreamers... ♪
548
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.559
Byron once said of Keats,
549
00:31:03.560 --> 00:31:06.439
"Keats writes about what he imagines.
550
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.390
"I write about what I live."
551
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:13.359
And most rock'n'roll people
552
00:31:13.360 --> 00:31:17.599
write about their lives in some way,
553
00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:21.639
and Kate Bush is more like Keats,
554
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.880
in that she writes about what she imagines.
555
00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:33.639
♪ I see the people working
556
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:35.919
♪ And see it working for them
557
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.439
♪ And so I want to join in
558
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:40.599
♪ But then I find it hurt me
559
00:31:40.600 --> 00:31:44.790
♪ Some say that knowledge is
something sat in your lap... ♪
560
00:31:44.800 --> 00:31:47.919
My favourite album by her is The Dreaming,
561
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.390
and I think she produced that one herself.
562
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:51.799
And that got a lot of criticism.
563
00:31:51.800 --> 00:31:55.479
But I loved it, it was overloaded
with textures and tones
564
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.919
and all manner of things.
565
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.519
It's a record that I still
can play to this day
566
00:32:00.520 --> 00:32:02.239
and still hear new things.
567
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.639
I mean, obviously, it's not
number one on the dance floor,
568
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:07.800
but then, all music shouldn't be.
569
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:18.319
Well, seemingly, it's you,
holding on to some bloke's ears,
570
00:32:18.320 --> 00:32:21.959
with something in your mouth, it looks like...
Is it a key? - Yeah.
571
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:23.799
It's a key. Ah-ha!
572
00:32:23.800 --> 00:32:28.119
Well, if you listen to the album,
and especially to the song Houdini,
573
00:32:28.120 --> 00:32:30.320
then you'll know all about it.
574
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.679
Well, it's "With a kiss, I'd pass the key."
575
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.119
Do you know who the man is
that she's kissing? It's me!
576
00:32:42.120 --> 00:32:48.390
You can only see my right ear, but
then again, who wants to see me?
577
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.199
Kate has spent the last 14 months
holed up in various studios,
578
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.719
recording her new LP, The Dreaming,
and the resultant noises include
579
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.480
helicopter rotor blades, didgeridoos
and a chorus of fake sheep.
580
00:33:02.760 --> 00:33:07.199
♪ Bang goes another kanga on
the bonnet of the van... ♪
581
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.559
But on that track, you employed, I think,
582
00:33:09.560 --> 00:33:15.390
Percy Edwards to supply the kind of
synthesised jungle backing? - Yes.
583
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:18.799
Well, I knew that in the choruses,
we wanted to create a feeling
584
00:33:18.800 --> 00:33:22.239
of the landscape, and obviously there
are a lot of Australian animals,
585
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.279
and the sounds are very
reminiscent of the environment.
586
00:33:25.280 --> 00:33:27.639
And of course, Percy could
come along and give us
587
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.520
a selection of at least 10
different Australian animals.
588
00:33:33.600 --> 00:33:37.439
I'm not sure which song is the one
where she's, like, donkey braying!
589
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.920
There's one where she's like, "Hee-haw!"
590
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:58.679
When I first heard it, I almost
had to bend my ears round,
591
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:02.719
to be able to understand the
sounds that were coming at me.
592
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.390
And I found it really...
593
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.879
Again, I was 11 or 12, so I
found some of it really scary.
594
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.359
♪ I must admit
595
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.239
♪ Just when I think I'm king... ♪
596
00:34:14.240 --> 00:34:17.719
The direction I'm going in with
my art is the way I want to go,
597
00:34:17.720 --> 00:34:21.759
because for me, it's a little bit
deeper, it's got more meaning,
598
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.559
it's not so poppy, I suppose.
599
00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:28.119
But of course, maybe that
won't be so widely accepted,
600
00:34:28.120 --> 00:34:30.319
especially in the singles chart.
601
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.759
♪ We got the job sussed
602
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.400
♪ This shop's shut for business
603
00:34:37.640 --> 00:34:43.390
♪ The lookout has parked the car
but kept the engine running
604
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.519
♪ Three beeps means trouble's coming... ♪
605
00:34:45.520 --> 00:34:48.239
She came out with this record
that people were just, like,
606
00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:51.279
"What?" They couldn't grasp it.
607
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.639
But the greatest thing that happened was,
608
00:34:53.640 --> 00:34:55.479
after that, The Hounds Of Love,
609
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.839
which was one of her most
complete works, was created.
610
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.119
I think, only through pushing
through those boundaries
611
00:35:02.120 --> 00:35:06.799
and exploring the deepest recesses
of production could she then
612
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.479
come through and create something
like The Hounds of Love.
613
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.599
You went away on your own terms
to make this LP, didn't you?
614
00:35:12.600 --> 00:35:14.790
Yes, I wanted to make sure that we
615
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:15.439
got our own studio together,
616
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:16.919
that was the next move, really.
617
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.239
I spent a lot of time on the last
album moving from studio to studio,
618
00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:22.999
and now we've got our own place
619
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.159
and everything is brilliant,
it makes such a difference.
620
00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:30.279
When we set up the mastering
studio for Hounds Of Love, I think
621
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.279
that really did get rid of the
last of the chains that she had,
622
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:35.999
that she felt she had.
623
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.639
And it did set her free, in a lot of ways.
624
00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:40.919
"Running Up That Hill."
625
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:44.390
Now, though, a timely burst
from a lady who hasn't graced
626
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.119
the turntables with a new
record for two years.
627
00:35:46.120 --> 00:35:47.360
It's nice to have her back.
628
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.359
I just remember pulling aside.
I was driving
629
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.599
and I heard it on the radio, in the States.
630
00:35:56.600 --> 00:35:59.559
And she didn't get played a lot
on the radio in the States,
631
00:35:59.560 --> 00:36:00.839
until that song.
632
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.390
That really got played a lot.
633
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.359
♪ It doesn't hurt me
634
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.280
♪ D'you want to feel how it feels?
635
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.639
♪ D'you want to know Know
that it doesn't hurt me... ♪
636
00:36:13.640 --> 00:36:17.639
I remember, I had to pull
over and listen to it.
637
00:36:17.640 --> 00:36:19.839
Because I had never heard anything like it.
638
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:23.839
♪ And if I only could I'd
make a deal with God
639
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.959
♪ And I'd get him to swap our places
640
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.119
♪ Be running up that road... ♪
641
00:36:29.120 --> 00:36:30.279
I think the choreography,
642
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.790
the fact that there was suddenly
a Kate Bush who was completely
643
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:38.199
owning, you know, the aspect
of dance, even not singing,
644
00:36:38.200 --> 00:36:41.319
you know, she wasn't even
lip-syncing, she was just dancing.
645
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.879
On top of that, it was
a way of dancing that
646
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.199
was at the time not at all popular.
647
00:36:47.200 --> 00:36:50.839
It wasn't a type of dancing that
you would have from, I don't know,
648
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.519
artists like Michael Jackson
or Janet Jackson or Madonna,
649
00:36:53.520 --> 00:36:57.439
you had somebody who was
bringing in a style of dancing
650
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.839
that was like a marginal way
of moving in a modern dance.
651
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.390
♪ Tell me we both matter, don't we? ♪
652
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:06.559
This is, like, one of my
all-time favourite songs.
653
00:37:06.560 --> 00:37:09.559
Music is supposed to evoke
emotion, you know what I'm saying?
654
00:37:09.560 --> 00:37:11.599
It makes us feel a certain way, you know?
655
00:37:11.600 --> 00:37:13.879
That's what the vibrations are,
656
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.719
it's not stagnant,
657
00:37:15.720 --> 00:37:17.159
it's not just plain or whatever,
658
00:37:17.160 --> 00:37:18.439
every time you listen to it,
659
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.559
it just touches you, strikes a chord.
660
00:37:21.560 --> 00:37:25.119
♪ And I'd get him to swap our places... ♪
661
00:37:25.120 --> 00:37:28.279
♪ Be running up that road,
be running up that hill... ♪
662
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.719
'I was introduced to the
music by my Uncle Russell,
663
00:37:31.720 --> 00:37:33.919
'he was kind of like the
weirdo of the family,
664
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:36.479
'he was a skateboarder and all
kind of things, so I was'
665
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:41.199
sixth or seventh grade and I used to ride my bike to
school and just listen to it and I just got deeper
666
00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:45.599
and deeper into it, you know, that's one of
my biggest musical influences, I love it.
667
00:37:45.600 --> 00:37:50.320
♪ If I only could Be
running up that hill. ♪
668
00:37:52.120 --> 00:37:56.359
If you look at her work
from The Kick Inside
669
00:37:56.360 --> 00:38:00.399
and how it evolves through
things like Never For Ever
670
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.679
and stuff like that, into, you
know, the zenith, which is.
671
00:38:03.680 --> 00:38:07.679
Hounds Of Love for me, you know,
it's a beautiful evolution
672
00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:11.479
and the songs are kind of
becoming more sophisticated,
673
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.479
even though they've always been
sophisticated, even from the start,
674
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:17.879
they're just developing a
kind of calm sophistication.
675
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.799
And I think she just always
kept people guessing.
676
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.479
Here with the title track
of her bestselling LP,
677
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:27.360
in the studio at number 18, Kate
Bush with The Hounds Of Love.
678
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.879
'It's in the trees! It's coming!'
679
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.639
♪ When I was a child Running in the night
680
00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:39.199
♪ Afraid of what might be
681
00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:42.399
♪ Hiding in the dark
Hiding in the streets... ♪
682
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:46.199
She starts the song with that
quote from Night Of The Demon.
683
00:38:46.200 --> 00:38:48.599
And it's a little bit scary.
684
00:38:48.600 --> 00:38:52.519
♪ The hounds of love are haunting me
685
00:38:52.520 --> 00:38:55.919
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh-ooh
686
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.759
♪ I've always been a coward
687
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.919
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ooh... ♪
688
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.279
It's like this repressed
sexuality, so sensual and sexual,
689
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.879
and it's so honest as well, I'm
a coward and I'm frightened,
690
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.479
you know, to state "I'm a coward" in the
song is quite a brave thing to do, actually.
691
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.199
♪ Here I go
692
00:39:15.200 --> 00:39:19.439
♪ It's coming for me through the trees... ♪
693
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.559
It is like she's on a leash,
694
00:39:21.560 --> 00:39:24.439
it's like the whole song is on a
leash and you're tugging it back,
695
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.199
but you know it's just going to
escape and burst and run free.
696
00:39:27.200 --> 00:39:31.719
♪ Take my shoes off and
throw them in the lake
697
00:39:31.720 --> 00:39:33.359
♪ And I'll be... ♪
698
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.559
I'm convinced that as great
as that record sounds,
699
00:39:36.560 --> 00:39:40.790
if you had anyone else sing it, you know,
700
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:46.519
anyone else try to kind of weave and
make it kind of do that thing where
701
00:39:46.520 --> 00:39:50.679
it burns like wildfire and it comes
alive, no-one else could do it.
702
00:39:50.680 --> 00:39:54.319
♪ I found a fox caught by dogs... ♪
703
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.279
It's incredible, the way she
brings this kind of cold,
704
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:02.879
Arctic atmosphere, it's
just like fire, you know?
705
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.359
It's all just like, "Aah!"
coming out of her mouth.
706
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:08.399
♪ Here I go
707
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.439
♪ Don't let me go... ♪
708
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.679
Everything's doubling up now, you've
got twice the amount of cellos,
709
00:40:13.680 --> 00:40:14.879
so everything's doubled.
710
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:18.959
♪ It's coming for me through the trees... ♪
711
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.319
The Fairlight synthesiser...
712
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.839
That's the wash, which is
what she wrote the song with.
713
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.639
What we had done is, we had set
up a pattern in the Fairlight,
714
00:40:28.640 --> 00:40:31.839
put that to tape so she had that
pattern to play along with,
715
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.999
and then, she used the
Orchestra 5 sound as a wash,
716
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:36.759
to actually write the song with.
717
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.799
Which is what you hear all the way through,
718
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.119
that kind of washy synthesiser
sound that's underneath it all.
719
00:40:43.120 --> 00:40:46.240
Then, all the cellos just
dance over the top of it.
720
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.239
Virtually no backing vocals at all.
721
00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:52.790
I think that's the strength of the song,
722
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.519
the fact there is very little to
get in the way of that lead vocal.
723
00:40:55.520 --> 00:40:57.919
♪ And throw them in the lake... ♪
724
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.799
And now I'm replaying the song in my head.
She's like...
725
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.390
♪ Do you know what I really need
Do you know what I really need?
726
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:05.679
♪ Need la-la-la-la
727
00:41:05.680 --> 00:41:09.320
♪ Yay, yo, yay, yo, your love... ♪
728
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:18.119
I find it really hard to
separate images from the music,
729
00:41:18.120 --> 00:41:20.559
once you know the music is
brilliant, and of course,
730
00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:24.520
I associate this image with
some of my favourite songs...
731
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.999
...that I know in my life.
732
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:35.239
♪ Little light, shining... ♪
733
00:41:35.240 --> 00:41:37.759
The second half of The Hounds of Love,
734
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.119
that's really where the magic is, for me.
735
00:41:40.120 --> 00:41:42.479
I mean, the first half is a
collection of the singles,
736
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:43.799
almost, isn't it?
737
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:48.919
But the second half is an incredible
sort of series of songs -
738
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.199
And Dream Of Sheep, which is so beautiful.
739
00:41:52.200 --> 00:41:56.840
♪ I tune into some friendly voices
740
00:41:58.600 --> 00:42:01.439
♪ Talking 'bout stupid things... ♪
741
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.519
"I tune into some friendly voices,
talking about stupid things.
742
00:42:04.520 --> 00:42:06.359
"I can't be left to my imagination.
743
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:10.319
"Let me be weak, let me
sleep and dream of sheep."
744
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.759
♪ Let me be weak... ♪
745
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.159
I love that lyric.
746
00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:21.200
♪ Let me sleep and dream of sheep... ♪
747
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:28.359
The way it kind of goes the stranger
songs, like Waking the Witch
748
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.559
and things like that, where
it's just, it's just these odd
749
00:42:31.560 --> 00:42:35.560
little, uncomfortable
little musical moments...
750
00:42:39.160 --> 00:42:42.790
I think The Ninth Wave was the
piece of music that affected me
751
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.479
the most when I was little,
because it terrified me.
752
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.279
It's about witches and
being stuck under ice
753
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.439
and, you know, floating adrift
in a sea of nothingness,
754
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.719
and all those kind of dream
elements, subconscious themes,
755
00:42:54.720 --> 00:42:58.640
and very kind of English,
ancient storytelling.
756
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.790
It seems like, on that piece of music,
757
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.360
she captured that moment
between waking and sleeping.
758
00:43:11.600 --> 00:43:13.519
I've spent many, many,
759
00:43:13.520 --> 00:43:16.399
many hours listening to
that 30 minutes of music,
760
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.279
it's an incredible piece of music,
761
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.639
and I advise anyone who
has never heard it to go
762
00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:23.880
and listen to it, because it's one
of the great pieces of music.
763
00:43:26.680 --> 00:43:31.479
Creativity comes from the freedom to fail.
764
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.439
And the freedom to fail comes
from, you know, experimentation,
765
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.519
and that's what gives
something its individuality,
766
00:43:38.520 --> 00:43:42.559
and, you know, I think
her courage, which is
767
00:43:42.560 --> 00:43:47.390
the positive way of interpreting
it, or bloody-mindedness, which is
768
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.199
the negative, is part of what gives
her real value as an artist.
769
00:43:52.200 --> 00:43:56.559
♪ In this proud land We grew up strong
770
00:43:56.560 --> 00:43:59.400
♪ We were wanted all along
771
00:44:01.120 --> 00:44:04.639
♪ I was taught to fight Taught to win
772
00:44:04.640 --> 00:44:07.159
♪ I never thought I could fail... ♪
773
00:44:07.160 --> 00:44:09.999
It's extraordinary what that
song has been used for,
774
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.959
but I think a lot of people who
have got into trouble have attached
775
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.639
themselves to that song, and I
think a lot of it is that Kate's
776
00:44:17.640 --> 00:44:22.799
wonderful voice is there in a sort
of reassuring and loving way.
777
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.159
And just makes them think that
perhaps there is going to be
778
00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:28.599
that type of love out there for them.
779
00:44:28.600 --> 00:44:31.439
♪ Don't give up
780
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.800
♪ Cos you have friends
781
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.959
♪ Don't give up
782
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.120
♪ You're not the only one... ♪
783
00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:46.159
The record she did with Peter Gabriel
784
00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:47.959
was one record that saved my life.
785
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:49.999
That record helped me get sober.
786
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:54.679
So, she played a big part in
my actual downfall and, um,
787
00:44:54.680 --> 00:44:59.959
rebirth, as it were. That
record helped me so much.
788
00:44:59.960 --> 00:45:02.320
I never told her that, but it did.
789
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.390
♪ Don't give up
790
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.839
♪ Cos I believe there's a place
791
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.879
♪ There's a place where we belong... ♪
792
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:21.639
One of the things that I love about
Kate Bush is her absolute ability
793
00:45:21.640 --> 00:45:26.799
to take things, to pluck things
that you would never expect to see
794
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:31.239
on a rock album and put them
there and make them work.
795
00:45:31.240 --> 00:45:32.959
♪ Mm, yes
796
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:38.639
♪ Then I'd taken the kiss of
seedcake back from his mouth... ♪
797
00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:40.159
'James Joyce's Ulysses, '
798
00:45:40.160 --> 00:45:43.479
one of the greatest passages
799
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:48.999
in all of English or Anglo-Irish literature
800
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:54.559
is Molly Bloom's glorious soliloquy
801
00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:57.439
ending in a sequence of yes's.
802
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.919
Yes, he said, I was a flower
of the mountain, yes,
803
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.440
so we're all flowers, a woman's body, yes.
804
00:46:05.520 --> 00:46:06.759
♪ Mm, yes
805
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.390
♪ He said I was a flower
of the mountain, yes
806
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.519
♪ But now I've powers
over a woman's body... ♪
807
00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:16.719
It's about embracing the
world of the senses,
808
00:46:16.720 --> 00:46:20.319
embracing yourself, embracing
sex, embracing love,
809
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.479
embracing the future,
embracing all possibility.
810
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.719
♪ Into the sensual world... ♪
811
00:46:27.720 --> 00:46:30.999
And it goes all the way back
for me to Wuthering Heights.
812
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.599
This is somebody who's not afraid of books.
813
00:46:33.600 --> 00:46:35.719
This is somebody who's
not afraid of reading,
814
00:46:35.720 --> 00:46:37.679
somebody who's not afraid of writers
815
00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:41.119
and who's not afraid of translating,
816
00:46:41.120 --> 00:46:42.959
being an intermediary,
817
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:48.519
being a door between the world
of books and the world of rock.
818
00:46:48.520 --> 00:46:52.119
I still remember going to the CD
store and buying Sensual World
819
00:46:52.120 --> 00:46:55.879
when I was 16 and the cover
820
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.839
and there's a rose in front of
her mouth that has bloomed.
821
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.439
She's got big wide eyes
and I remember, you know,
822
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.559
putting it in the shitty
car stereo on the way home
823
00:47:07.560 --> 00:47:09.559
and, you know,
824
00:47:09.560 --> 00:47:13.199
and my life was forever changed.
825
00:47:13.200 --> 00:47:16.320
♪ Oh... ♪
826
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.599
I really thank Kate because these
touchstones like This Woman's Work,
827
00:47:27.600 --> 00:47:30.999
that kind of song is, it's
celebrating everything
828
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:35.319
that's so wonderful about
being a woman and being...
829
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.719
nurturing and intuitive and emotional
830
00:47:38.720 --> 00:47:42.839
and gentle and sensual and
just like really intimate.
831
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:47.360
♪ I should be crying but I
just can't let it show... ♪
832
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.359
People don't put their hearts on
the line in that vulnerable way
833
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:55.159
very much and it's really, as an
artist myself, it's helped me
834
00:47:55.160 --> 00:47:59.799
to not be frightened to show
all, as much as my vulnerability
835
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.399
as a woman as I can and
in that be powerful.
836
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:07.119
♪ And all the things that we should
have said that we never said
837
00:48:07.120 --> 00:48:10.839
♪ All the things we should've
done that we never did
838
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.319
♪ All the things that you needed from me
839
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:19.790
♪ All the things that
you wanted for me... ♪
840
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.999
It's as if within her
voice, there's everything.
841
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.390
Every possible facet of
human experience is there
842
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:27.479
under her surface
843
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.639
and her work as a writer is
to constantly draw that out
844
00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:35.479
and not just the particularity of
her experience as a female body
845
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.199
but her experience as a person
846
00:48:38.200 --> 00:48:42.880
which is to be prey to all kinds
of forces and sensations.
847
00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:53.639
What about your lyrics? Yours are
very passionate and provocative.
848
00:48:53.640 --> 00:48:56.390
Do you get inspiration anywhere?
849
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.279
I think it is illusive stuff
850
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.390
but I think really the biggest
inspiration is people.
851
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:05.199
I think people are just so
inspiring, they're fascinating
852
00:49:05.200 --> 00:49:10.759
and wonderful and I think, you
know, that nearly every idea that
853
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:14.279
a person has had is probably at some
point come from another person.
854
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.359
I think The Red Shoes, without
going into too much detail,
855
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.199
is a very personal album.
856
00:49:19.200 --> 00:49:22.919
You know there was a lot of
very personal stuff happening
857
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.390
at that time and I think
it shows in the music.
858
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:28.159
I mean, basically a lot of
the music on that album
859
00:49:28.160 --> 00:49:29.759
is about break up of relationships.
860
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.719
You know, "I'll come
round when you're not in
861
00:49:31.720 --> 00:49:34.599
"and I'll pick up all my things."
And all that kind of stuff.
862
00:49:34.600 --> 00:49:39.119
♪ It's all right, I'll come
round when you're not in
863
00:49:39.120 --> 00:49:43.919
♪ And I'll pick up all my things
864
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.279
♪ Everything I have I bought with you... ♪
865
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.439
'It's such a desperate song
866
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:54.199
'and she really finds a
way to convey despair.'
867
00:49:54.200 --> 00:49:57.559
The despair of, you know,
missing the person
868
00:49:57.560 --> 00:50:01.879
or a break up that you know will
never come back together again.
869
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.479
I don't know quite how to put
this but obviously, you know,
870
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.199
you've had a professional/personal
relationship with Kate
871
00:50:07.200 --> 00:50:10.790
for a long time
872
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:14.559
and The Red Shoes was an
expression of some of the things
873
00:50:14.560 --> 00:50:16.719
that may have been happening
between the two of you
874
00:50:16.720 --> 00:50:20.119
- and yet you were still working together.
- That's exactly it.
875
00:50:20.120 --> 00:50:24.279
Well, because the working
relationship was never a problem.
876
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.790
We always worked together
reasonably well, you know?
877
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.359
We always argue, we always have
and we always will, I guess.
878
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.399
I've always argued with Kate,
she's always argued with me
879
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:35.799
but I guess that's just
the way it is, you know?
880
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:41.399
So I feel I'm emotionally involved
with it all to a great extent.
881
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:44.279
Much more so than most
people would imagine.
882
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.359
Not only did we have a personal
relationship when I worked with her,
883
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.390
I really love her music, I really do.
884
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.839
To the point where I've virtually
worked with nobody else
885
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:54.760
because nobody else comes close.
886
00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:00.199
♪ Some moments that I've had
887
00:51:00.200 --> 00:51:04.440
♪ Some moments of pleasure
888
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.439
♪ I think about us lying
889
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:22.790
♪ Lying on a beach somewhere... ♪
890
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.399
I was just really sad that suddenly
someone who was making work
891
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.919
that was accessible to me,
suddenly became inaccessible
892
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.879
because, you know, because of
circumstances, personal choices
893
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.399
or whatever but I always
blamed the critics.
894
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.320
♪ And I can hear my mother saying
895
00:51:42.520 --> 00:51:46.800
♪ Every old sock needs an old shoe
896
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.120
♪ Isn't that a great saying?
897
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:02.440
♪ Every old sock needs an old shoe... ♪
898
00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:08.319
The fact that she took time off
to raise her child and disappear
899
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.279
and give Bertie a wonderful life,
900
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:14.999
the humanity in her is so great and
901
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.919
she wasn't interested in anything
except, you know, raising her child
902
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:20.599
and being happy.
903
00:52:20.600 --> 00:52:24.719
I don't think what Kate Bush did
was like a weird thing at all,
904
00:52:24.720 --> 00:52:28.479
to kind of withdraw to bring up a child,
905
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.919
if that's indeed why she did withdraw.
906
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:32.679
Maybe she just withdrew because she
907
00:52:32.680 --> 00:52:35.879
was sick of the whole bloody lot of
them wanting to know about her life
908
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.120
and I can really understand that.
909
00:52:40.680 --> 00:52:43.479
For me to get to get into
that creative process,
910
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:47.679
I have to have a sort of
quiet place that I work from
911
00:52:47.680 --> 00:52:50.679
and if I was living the life of, you know,
912
00:52:50.680 --> 00:52:53.519
somebody in the industry
as a pop star or whatever,
913
00:52:53.520 --> 00:52:55.279
it's too distracting.
914
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:58.879
It's too to do with other people's
perceptions of who you are
915
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:03.359
and what's important to me is to
be a human being who has a soul
916
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.390
and who hopefully has a
sense of who they are,
917
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:09.799
not who everybody else thinks you are.
918
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.239
♪ Elvis, are you out there somewhere?
919
00:53:13.240 --> 00:53:15.880
♪ Looking like a happy man
920
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:26.790
♪ In the snow with Rosebud
921
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:32.239
♪ And the king of the mountain... ♪
922
00:53:32.240 --> 00:53:34.639
John Harris, there's been
some anticipation over this,
923
00:53:34.640 --> 00:53:37.319
someone even wrote a novel
called Waiting For Kate Bush
924
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.790
about the long wait. Has it been worth it?
925
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.799
I think there's probably less
anticipation in the real world,
926
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:44.399
in quote marks, than there is in
certain circles of the media.
927
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:47.390
I think people will get themselves
in a tizz about this record
928
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.999
because there's still an element of
we are not worthy about Kate Bush.
929
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.439
But deeply eccentric...
930
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.679
It's not, that's the
point, it's not eccentric.
931
00:53:53.680 --> 00:53:56.479
You can tell this is someone who's
not been near the music business
932
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.199
for 12 years and it sounds like the
sort of thing that would blast
933
00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:00.719
from shopping malls in about 1989,
934
00:54:00.720 --> 00:54:02.799
there's a bit of kind of
Tears For Fears about it.
935
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.839
What I like it's not self-conscious
eccentricity, I think she's making
936
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.599
this record for herself, she's
pleasing herself with her music.
937
00:54:08.600 --> 00:54:11.000
"Prelude" by Kate Bush.
938
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.719
The Aerial album,
939
00:54:14.720 --> 00:54:18.790
my favourite on that album is
actually that song called Prelude.
940
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.790
It's just the sound of some cuckoos
941
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.790
and the sound of a child's voice
942
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:27.799
and she just manages to combine
these very, very prosaic,
943
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:31.680
pure elements and turn them into magic.
944
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:38.279
She's always been able to find,
let's say the language of nature.
945
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:42.759
She would be able to make you
hear words within, you know,
946
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.790
the sounds that birds would make,
947
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.800
you would actually hear that
they're saying something.
948
00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:55.919
Kate Bush makes a record
949
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.439
then you don't hear from her.
950
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.239
And you play the stuff
that she's made already
951
00:55:00.240 --> 00:55:04.439
and you listen to it and
one day, you are surprised
952
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.399
and she brings out something else
and she's been quietly working away
953
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.319
on it for however long she
wanted to work on it.
954
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.319
And I love that, I love the
willingness to be quiet
955
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.390
until it's time to speak
956
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.920
which is something that
she does over and over.
957
00:55:21.640 --> 00:55:24.760
♪ You're not a langur monkey
958
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.720
♪ Nor a big brown bear
959
00:55:37.160 --> 00:55:39.240
♪ You're the wild man... ♪
960
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:43.879
50 Words For Snow,
961
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:48.479
my favourite track on that is
where her little son, he sings,
962
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:50.799
♪ I am sky. ♪
963
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:57.519
You know, that amazing like
choral boy pure voice was like,
964
00:55:57.520 --> 00:56:00.239
it was just so lovely to hear
the generations coming through
965
00:56:00.240 --> 00:56:02.239
and that they're making music together.
966
00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:06.240
♪ I am sky... ♪
967
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.959
I was called by my agent who said,
968
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:16.719
"Would you like to record
a track with Kate Bush?"
969
00:56:16.720 --> 00:56:19.559
To which there is only
ever one possible answer.
970
00:56:19.560 --> 00:56:21.279
"As long as it's not me singing."
971
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:22.999
I said, "She does know I can't sing..
972
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:28.519
She said, "No, no, it would be
voicing and saying words for snow."
973
00:56:28.520 --> 00:56:29.920
Oh, no, it's not, is it?
974
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.600
I just still can't quite believe
it says Kate Bush/Stephen Fry.
975
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:45.599
It's wonderfully atmospheric, isn't it?
It's just something about it.
976
00:56:45.600 --> 00:56:47.000
♪ Drifting
977
00:56:48.560 --> 00:56:50.240
♪ Two
978
00:56:58.000 --> 00:56:59.560
♪ Three... ♪
979
00:57:04.680 --> 00:57:09.519
These phrases and epithets are hers
and some of them obviously exist
980
00:57:09.520 --> 00:57:14.679
like whiteout and some of them are
just sort of poetic force poetry.
981
00:57:14.680 --> 00:57:18.159
Almost like what Anglo-Saxon
poetry is known as a kenning
982
00:57:18.160 --> 00:57:20.840
where you just put things together.
983
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:24.200
She has a very intense poetic mind.
984
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.919
♪ Come on, Joe, you've got 32 to go... ♪
985
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.519
That's what makes it.
That voice that comes in.
986
00:57:35.520 --> 00:57:41.679
♪ Come on, Joe, you've got 32 to go... ♪
987
00:57:41.680 --> 00:57:44.119
The intention is to tell a story,
988
00:57:44.120 --> 00:57:48.879
to create a sonic world for us, a
sonic painting for us to walk into
989
00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:53.319
without having to see her.
990
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:54.919
She's transcending that.
991
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:59.320
She's choosing to transcend that and
that's a very powerful thing to do.
992
00:58:06.200 --> 00:58:08.359
You don't ever get the sense that
993
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:12.639
she is making music to pander to anyone.
994
00:58:12.640 --> 00:58:18.439
I think you always get her absolute
best attempt at her true vision
995
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:20.759
whenever you get a Kate Bush record.
996
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.359
The word coming to my
mind is national treasure
997
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.839
but that means kind of like an
almost dead person, doesn't it?
998
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:28.279
Or something.
999
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:31.479
She's become a legend not just
because she's been absent
1000
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.679
but because she's important to musicians
1001
00:58:34.680 --> 00:58:38.159
as much as she's important
to the British public.
1002
00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:42.999
She's one of those people that
has got a muse over her head,
1003
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:49.959
she's got this special way to tap in
to the energy and reality of music.
1004
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.199
She takes you somewhere else.
1005
00:58:52.200 --> 00:58:54.999
You know there are other artists,
they're of a genre, aren't they?
1006
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:56.839
And you can sort of jump between them,
1007
00:58:56.840 --> 00:59:00.390
I don't think you can do that
with her, I think you have to...
1008
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.999
fully submerge yourself in...
1009
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:06.160
I was going to say the
Bush but I better not.
85612
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