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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:33,600 The Maurizio Gucci case is turning into an Italian Eve Dallas story. 4 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,679 A professional killer normally takes care not to leave any witnesses. 5 00:00:38,759 --> 00:00:41,920 It seems more like a crime of passion. 6 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,799 It seemed like a crime that was destined to remained unsolved. 7 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,320 The news was telling me about Maurizio's death. 8 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:51,280 I could no longer think. 9 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:55,439 I had lost my husband, 10 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,799 who was the person I'd loved more than anyone else. 11 00:01:09,159 --> 00:01:12,120 The Gucci brand is one of the key players in this idea of Made in Italy 12 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,959 that's becoming more and more important. 13 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,760 I really lived an incredible life. 14 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:25,159 It happened over night. 15 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:28,439 He packed his weapons and bags and he left. 16 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:31,480 This desire to eliminate him came out. 17 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:35,760 Maybe her narcissism had taken a hit. 18 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:43,799 I went around asking, "Is anyone here brave enough to kill my husband?" 19 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,359 The investigations just went round in circles. 20 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:50,599 Who wanted Maurizio Gucci's death? 21 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:55,439 I didn't think they'd catch me. 22 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:12,360 LADY GUCCI The Story Of Patrizia Reggiani 23 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:19,960 MILAN 24 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,919 Where shall we go? 25 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,479 Shall we go to Monte Napoleone? 26 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,599 This is... 27 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:52,520 These are my favourite streets. 28 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,039 Because every time I come here, I discover something new. 29 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:07,599 I grew up among beautiful things. 30 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,039 This was my school. 31 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,199 This is the church where I got married. 32 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:46,919 Via dei Giardini. 33 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,319 I lived here alone, when I was single, 34 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,879 with my parents, in number 3. 35 00:03:57,439 --> 00:03:59,960 Patrizia Reggiani was convicted 36 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:03,199 of contracting the murder of Maurizio Gucci 37 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,680 and spent almost 20 years in prison, two decades. 38 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:09,120 Guilty or innocent, she served her sentence. 39 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:11,680 She found herself thrown into a new life. 40 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:24,560 Patrizia was born in 1948 and grew up in the poorest outskirts of Milan. 41 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:31,439 A Milan where social differences are clear, they're evident. 42 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:37,079 Her mother, Silvana, is a dishwasher at a café in via Padova. 43 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:41,600 But her life and her daughter's life radically change 44 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,279 after she meets a rich entrepreneur, Ferdinando Reggiani. 45 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,959 Patrizia had two surnames: Martinelli Reggiani. 46 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Why did she have two surnames? 47 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,519 I don't think any of us ever asked ourselves that. 48 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,720 I found out that Patrizia was not Reggiani's daughter, 49 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,480 but that, later on, she'd been adopted by Reggiani. 50 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:11,519 And I imagine that... 51 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,279 Patrizia's past, the difficult childhood she experienced, 52 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,480 which is the thing that leaves the biggest mark on someone's character, 53 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,000 probably instilled in her this fear... 54 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:28,720 of going back to being poor. 55 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,920 Everything I remember about my father... 56 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:36,120 is good. 57 00:05:37,439 --> 00:05:41,560 He was very funny, he was nice to me, 58 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,360 he always agreed with me. 59 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:49,600 He gave me the money to buy my first house, 60 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:52,720 and that's something I've never forgotten. 61 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,160 I had a terrible relationship with my mother. 62 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:08,399 We couldn't even be in the same room together. 63 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Because I'm a bit mad, 64 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,600 and she's a bit mad, too, 65 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,120 so two madwomen couldn't be in the same room together. 66 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,800 The Milan of the '60s is the Milan of the economic boom. 67 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:31,399 Milan was the engine and the heart of the legendary '60s. 68 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,120 It's a modern city, a city of events, 69 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:40,319 a city where things are happening and where everything can be redesigned. 70 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:42,439 One of the things that's being redesigned is fashion. 71 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:47,160 That transgressive, kind of rebellious fashion, of girls in miniskirts. 72 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,279 In those years, trends weren't defined by fashion designers. 73 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,439 The street was the shop window and the catwalk. 74 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,319 Patrizia's got money, 75 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:03,560 but she's missing the status given to those born into wealth. 76 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:10,680 There is a substantial difference between those born into a rich family 77 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:15,879 and those who need to continue to progress, 78 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:17,879 to prove themselves, to rise to the challenge. 79 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:20,560 Patrizia is one of those people. 80 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,800 The first time I met Maurizio was very strange. 81 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:34,959 My best friend at the time said to me, 82 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:40,959 "Look, you've got to drag Maurizio Gucci to my party." 83 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:43,800 And I asked her, "Who is Maurizio Gucci?" 84 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,519 I go up to the first floor, and he arrives. 85 00:07:56,959 --> 00:07:59,519 He said, "How can I talk to you?" 86 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,079 And I said, "We'll have time." 87 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,199 But I'd already understood that he was trying to court me. 88 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:10,720 Then we decided to go down to the nightclub. 89 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,759 I was there with another guy, in his Porsche. 90 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:20,879 Whereas he'd arrived in a smaller car, 91 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:24,399 so I already made up my mind about him: this guy's a loser. 92 00:08:25,279 --> 00:08:29,120 The "loser" is actually part of a huge dynasty, the Guccis, 93 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:30,800 which started with Guccio Gucci, 94 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:33,879 his grandfather and the creator of the business 95 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,919 which will one day become an extraordinary brand, an Italian dream. 96 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,480 When Guccio Gucci dies, three of his six children join the business, 97 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,679 Aldo, the eldest, Vasco and Rodolfo, 98 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:50,759 and they're the ones who really take up the reins of the business. 99 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,840 At one point I get a phone call from him, 100 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,360 and he says, "Listen, I've found 101 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,480 "this restaurant that's really nice, 102 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:08,200 "how about we go there tomorrow evening?" 103 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:11,960 And that same evening, he says to me, 104 00:09:12,039 --> 00:09:18,799 "Listen, what would you think about your name being Patrizia Gucci?" 105 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,919 So I said, "What? Have you gone mad?" 106 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,759 That's when we started dating. 107 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:40,320 Back then I was really fun, not like I am now. 108 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:42,919 Besides my beauty, 109 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Maurizio was struck by everything about me. 110 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,200 You can only imagine the sort of car I was used to. 111 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,399 So I told him, "Listen, don't you think you should get a new car?" 112 00:10:00,919 --> 00:10:04,080 And he said, "Yeah, maybe I should." 113 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:10,000 So we put together, a bit me, a bit him, 114 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,440 more him than me, a good sum of money. 115 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:18,960 And we bought a beautiful car, a Ferrari. 116 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:23,080 I've had other relationships, but... 117 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:26,679 never like Maurizio. 118 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,159 Maurizio was my only true love. 119 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,759 {\an8}28 October 1972 120 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:47,320 We organised our wedding, which was beautiful... 121 00:10:47,399 --> 00:10:50,399 Patrizia Reggiani and Maurizio Gucci's wedding 122 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,960 MILAN, 28 OCTOBER 1972 123 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:14,200 Maurizio's father was absolutely opposed to our union. 124 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,799 Because... I don't know. 125 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,759 Maurizio distances himself. He's in disagreement with his father 126 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,080 and in search of his independence. 127 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,320 It's his uncle Aldo Gucci who helps his nephew and his wife Patrizia. 128 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,480 Aldo Gucci is the firstborn, the most visionary, 129 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,600 who has an instinctive fashion sense as well as an instinctive business sense. 130 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,840 Patrizia is the one to search for an ally in Aldo. 131 00:11:40,919 --> 00:11:44,799 Aldo manages to make father and son make peace, 132 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:48,679 but he also tells his brother very clearly that, 133 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:53,399 bringing Maurizio back into the family, Patrizia is also joining the family. 134 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,000 Aldo thought very highly of me because of my intelligence. 135 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,919 I respected him. 136 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,799 He'd sent us to New York 137 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:06,559 to put me under his protective wing. 138 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:08,799 I mean, I'm a beautiful woman... 139 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,879 In the '70s, the Gucci brand is growing incredibly quickly. 140 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,360 It's one of the key players in this idea of Made in Italy 141 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,000 that's becoming more and more important, 142 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,200 in part thanks to prêt-à-porter, 143 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:32,639 in other words the democratisation of fashion which is progressing 144 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,440 along with the more exclusive haute couture, 145 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:38,399 the basic high fashion found in Paris and Rome. 146 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,399 It's a golden moment for fashion, for Made in Italy, for Gucci. 147 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,960 And for Patrizia. 148 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:49,360 In fact, Alessandra is born in 1977 and four years later Allegra, 149 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,600 and in the meantime Maurizio's father Rodolfo has bought the couple 150 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,120 a truly unique loft in New York. 151 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:02,200 My father-in-law had given me the house in New York. 152 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,039 It was gorgeous. 153 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,200 But this gift was somehow pushed for by Patrizia, 154 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:14,440 who had a sense for real estate. More than a flat it was a penthouse, 155 00:13:14,519 --> 00:13:18,320 880 square metres on Fifth Avenue. 156 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,279 The New York jetsetters all came to this house. 157 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:35,399 Patrizia is one of the most vivacious, extraordinary people in the city. 158 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:41,240 Patrizia is living the high life, a truly extraordinary life, 159 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,840 in the places that matter, in the centre of the world. 160 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:47,360 She's a woman who always seems to know what she wants, 161 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,960 who always seems to be a step ahead. 162 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,960 She's the one to organise parties in Milan, in New York, and elsewhere. 163 00:13:55,639 --> 00:14:00,399 So she's the entertainment, she herself is the life of the party. 164 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,759 ISCHIA, 1977 165 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:10,720 We were in Ischia for the thermal baths, and that's where I met Pina. 166 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,279 I met her in Ischia and I immediately found her endearing. 167 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,120 She didn't have a happy childhood, Patrizia. 168 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,519 She didn't have any sisters or brothers. 169 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,279 She had this mum who was not a mum to her, 170 00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:30,720 because her mum was self-centred, she was... 171 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,600 What is a mum who always calls her daughter a bastard? 172 00:14:34,679 --> 00:14:37,480 Patrizia had suffered a lot. 173 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,759 She was a woman in pain in that respect. 174 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,600 So I'd become her confidante. 175 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:46,720 We weren't even friends, we were like sisters. 176 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:51,840 In Pina, Patrizia probably did not only find 177 00:14:51,919 --> 00:14:54,080 a kind of friend, a confidante, 178 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:57,279 but also someone who was able to recognise her status, 179 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,360 to treat her like Patrizia Gucci. 180 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,679 And Pina's main interest was money, 181 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:08,279 so Pina Auriemma is accustomed to receiving regular payments, 182 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:13,840 benefits, royalties from Patrizia Reggiani. 183 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:17,000 She took me on holiday, but because she needed company, 184 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,639 she needed to vent, she needed to talk. 185 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,039 Rather than leave the girls with the nanny, she'd phone me 186 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:30,279 and I'd come running to stay with them. And this went on for many years. 187 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:37,919 I'd listen to her because I felt kind of bad for her. 188 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,679 But... 189 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,320 she was a friend, let's say. 190 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:48,639 COPENHAGEN, 1983 191 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,360 My favourite memory with Maurizio 192 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,159 was when he joined me in Copenhagen 193 00:15:57,559 --> 00:16:01,159 and we took this boat out 194 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,399 in the wind and all that, 195 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:13,159 and then we got to where the Créole was, 196 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,480 and I fell in love with this boat. 197 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,159 Patrizia Reggiani does not seem to be used to being told no. 198 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,799 She wants a flat because she doesn't like staying in hotels, and she gets a flat. 199 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:30,600 She wants the Créole, and naturally she manages to get it. 200 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:35,639 I was in Paris, and he calls me and says, 201 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,919 "Listen, what would you say if I bought you the Créole?" 202 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,320 And I told him, "That would be fantastic." 203 00:16:43,399 --> 00:16:47,600 And so we became owners of the Créole. 204 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,759 All this love turned against me. 205 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:01,279 I have never been lucky, except for my love story with Maurizio. 206 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,519 But... 207 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Milan of the '80s is the Milan of fashion, the Milan of Made in Italy, 208 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:21,599 which is in the midst of its most extraordinary moment. 209 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:28,160 The moment of great fashion designers, the moment the whole world is watching. 210 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,839 But in this moment of splendour, the harmony within the family... 211 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,599 begins to disintegrate. 212 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:47,079 The Gucci family is in its third generation, but Rodolfo dies in 1983. 213 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,519 At that point, Rodolfo's shares pass into Maurizio's hands. 214 00:17:53,559 --> 00:17:58,400 Patrizia thinks that Maurizio probably will not be the best choice 215 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,680 to lead and manage the company, but Gucci did not easily allow women 216 00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:07,960 to take on an administrative, managerial role. 217 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:14,000 But Patrizia would like to, she'd like to try to enter 218 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:18,079 that world that she loves and knows and feels like it's hers, too. 219 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,480 I tried to help Maurizio 220 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,359 very, very, very much in his business. 221 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,880 Because Maurizio had this thing, that if he got obsessed about something, 222 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,759 he went straight onto the path to failure. 223 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,160 We realise that this woman 224 00:18:43,519 --> 00:18:46,640 has a role in Gucci's growth as a businessman, 225 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,279 a role which may have been fundamental in some choices, 226 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,880 and was certainly very, very oppressing at times. 227 00:18:53,960 --> 00:19:00,039 Some people tell us that Gucci suffered from Patrizia's invasiveness. 228 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,119 Paolo, who is Maurizio's cousin and one of Aldo's four children, 229 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,000 does not tolerate the family's discipline, 230 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:12,359 so he wants to somehow break free and open up his own line. 231 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,000 And that's when Patrizia feels that the time has come 232 00:19:16,079 --> 00:19:19,119 for her to play an important role. 233 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,519 Acapulco. 234 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:24,440 At one point, I look around 235 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,680 and I see this cousin of Maurizio's, 236 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:32,279 telling me, "Come here, come here." 237 00:19:32,759 --> 00:19:39,119 And he tells me, "Listen, if you're involved, we can do great things." 238 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:42,799 So I asked him, "What kind of great things?" 239 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,720 He says, "I feel that at this point I no longer care about Gucci... 240 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,960 "so I need to meet with Maurizio." 241 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,640 So I told him, "Certainly." 242 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,440 So we organised a meeting in via Durini, where we lived. 243 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:12,799 When the two of them come down, I see that both of them are satisfied. 244 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,960 So I ask him why. And he says, "We've made a deal. 245 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:24,119 "Paolo's going to sell me his shares, and I'm going to buy them." 246 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,720 I told him, "Ah, wonderful, bottle of champagne." 247 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:32,440 Maurizio, who had already inherited 50% of the shares from his father, 248 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:36,960 along with Paolo's shares now has a majority and becomes head of Gucci. 249 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:45,160 The only mistake Maurizio made was not communicating this 250 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:51,720 to the cornerstone of Gucci, Uncle Aldo. 251 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:58,759 So when Maurizio found himself in disagreement with Uncle Aldo, 252 00:20:58,839 --> 00:21:05,599 Aldo goes, "Hey, kid, how dare you give orders to me?" 253 00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:11,039 And that's when the kid pulled out what he'd bought. 254 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,279 Aldo didn't believe it, 255 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,640 so the next morning Aldo went in... 256 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:24,039 and found everything closed, his offices and everything. 257 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,720 Basically Aldo had been kicked out of Gucci. 258 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,519 And he told me, "What a pity. 259 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:36,480 You and I would have been Gucci's rebirth." 260 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,839 And that's when the destruction began. 261 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,519 A disaster. 262 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,599 Because Maurizio... 263 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:54,279 was never able to hold onto Gucci. 264 00:21:55,799 --> 00:21:59,960 The real problem in those years was that the Gucci brand had become too popular, 265 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:02,799 there were too many licenses, too many products. 266 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,400 The brand had become watered-down in a way. 267 00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:10,920 Maurizio understands, he realises he needs to close those licenses 268 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,920 and somehow bring Gucci back to the greatness it once had, 269 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,200 but he's not able to manage it. So he understands the problem, 270 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:24,640 but he doesn't know how to deal with it, and the firm finds itself in trouble. 271 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,039 My first crisis with Maurizio 272 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:32,039 was when he packed his weapons and bags and he left. 273 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,519 Then, at one point, I felt lost. 274 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,720 I had this huge house, two children. 275 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,559 Well, there was always the nanny, but in any case I was in shock. 276 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,480 Maurizio disappeared over night, 277 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:56,400 running around the world, and he did not contact his children nor his wife. 278 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,119 After the death of his father, after Rodolfo's death, 279 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,559 his personality seems to come out, 280 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,319 Maurizio's true identity seems to be revealed. 281 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,240 And one could say that it seemed he was going to look elsewhere 282 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:17,599 for his personality, for his true identity. 283 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,400 The Créole seems to be, yes, a gift he made to Patrizia, 284 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,960 but also a way for him to feel truly free. 285 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:29,880 I never stopped loving Maurizio, 286 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,759 but I have to say he really disappointed me. 287 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,880 When he turned up again, 288 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,039 from what I remember, from what she told me, 289 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,079 he didn't want to get back together. The marriage was over. 290 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,319 I resisted for 15 years. 291 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,640 He, on the other hand, resisted for 13 years. 292 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,480 So we spent these two years fighting, 293 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,599 with me yelling at him, 294 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,559 "You're a..." Well... 295 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,960 I tried twice to see Maurizio, 296 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:14,960 to tell him that he was ruining Gucci, 297 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:19,559 but he told me, "No, what do you want to do? Don't worry." 298 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,519 But I knew he was ruining Gucci. 299 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,200 So at that point Maurizio decides to sell his shares, 300 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:32,480 and he sells them to the Arabs of Investcorp. 301 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:35,000 170 million dollars was the price, 302 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:39,960 270 billion lire, an enormous sum of money. 303 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:44,200 The curtain falls on one of the biggest Italian fashion brands, 304 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:48,519 a legendary brand which falls once and for all into foreign hands. 305 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,720 My... 306 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,039 disappointment... 307 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,039 led me to kick him out of the house. 308 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:07,039 And I have to say I was very surprised that he'd already packed his bags. 309 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,279 I was shocked when Maurizio left, 310 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,480 because he seemed like the one who was more in love of the two. 311 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:20,279 It's not like they drifted apart. It happened over night. 312 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,359 Maurizio never asked me for a divorce, 313 00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:27,359 and I was alright with that. 314 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,759 Then suddenly this Paola Franchi comes on the scene, 315 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:36,759 and he asks me for a divorce. 316 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:44,000 So I was no longer allowed 317 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,599 to use the Gucci name. 318 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240 But I still use it. 319 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:02,960 She phoned me in Naples one day and said: 320 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:06,960 "I fainted, they took me to hospital, I need to have surgery, 321 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,279 "I might have a brain tumour." 322 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,599 She called it a brain tumour, but it was a very superficial thing, 323 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,799 otherwise we wouldn't be here to tell the story, right? 324 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,359 My illness was a meningioma... 325 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,720 I don't know... in my head. 326 00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:26,160 She really took advantage of this illness, 327 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,160 she wanted to take advantage of it in court, too, 328 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,839 saying she couldn't remember, she couldn't say, but they exposed her. 329 00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:40,640 I found out that he'd come to the Madonnina clinic, 330 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,319 and then he hadn't had the courage to come inside. 331 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,480 I found that out, and I thought, "What a bastard." 332 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,759 And that was one of the reasons why... 333 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,880 I stopped loving him. 334 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:02,960 You've crossed the line, 335 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,079 even your own daughters despise you 336 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,960 and don't want to see you anymore to forget the trauma. 337 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,519 You're a... a deformed growth. 338 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:18,720 You're a painful appendage that we all want to forget. 339 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,519 You told me... 340 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,839 that in the period when you were forging your father's signature, 341 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,359 you went through hell. 342 00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:29,480 No, you're wrong, Maurizio... 343 00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:31,640 hell is still to come for you. 344 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,799 When I found out that Maurizio wanted to marry... 345 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,400 this person, 346 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,160 who had even been a friend of mine, back in the day, 347 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,319 I thought, "That's not possible." 348 00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:58,920 I was sure he was ignoring 349 00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:02,160 his daughters for Paola Franchi. 350 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,480 This really cuts the ground from under Patrizia's feet, 351 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:10,039 because having a competitor, an adversary, 352 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,759 a new Lady Gucci and potentially new heirs, 353 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:17,680 somehow calls her role into question. 354 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,720 She'd lost this power she had to guide him. 355 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:28,640 She felt hurt, humiliated, because he... 356 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,559 he'd found himself another woman, he'd built another life for himself. 357 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,960 My thought was: I am protecting my daughters. 358 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:39,720 I mean... 359 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,519 Maurizio was cutting us out. 360 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,319 He no longer wanted to see his family or anything. 361 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,759 We have four houses in Saint Moritz. 362 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:57,640 And he didn't want to give even one of them to my daughters. 363 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,599 Something happened in her. Maybe her narcissism had taken a hit. 364 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,279 This desire to eliminate him came out. 365 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:12,920 I went around asking the butcher and so on, 366 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,319 "Is anyone here brave enough to kill my husband?" 367 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:23,480 She'd asked all of Milan to find a murderer. 368 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,799 Lots of people didn't take her seriously. The only idiot was me. 369 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:34,200 I have a shortcoming. I can't aim straight, 370 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:36,279 so I couldn't do it myself. 371 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,000 I had to find... 372 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,279 these Beagle Boys who would do it for me. 373 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:48,880 As for me, it was supposed to be a scam, because these guys weren't criminals, 374 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,400 they weren't people who knew how to hold a gun. 375 00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:56,720 They had no intention of killing Maurizio. 376 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,960 {\an8}27 March 1995 377 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:19,799 Maurizio Gucci, heir of the prestigious fashion house, has been killed in Milan. 378 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,400 There are witnesses. The doorman, shot in the shoulder by the murderer, 379 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,119 is the one who's been able to provide the best description so far: 380 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,079 a man wearing a baseball cap and dark sunglasses 381 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,079 who comes running out of Gucci's house right after shooting him. 382 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,559 Speaking of the gun, it appears to have been a pistol with a silencer 383 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,599 manufactured abroad and filled with American bullets, 384 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,799 sold only in Switzerland, Austria and Germany. 385 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,160 This does not prove that the killer or whoever sent him is a foreigner, 386 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,759 but it does open this possibility. 387 00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:49,960 The motive: the investigators seem to believe in an economic feud. 388 00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:53,000 There are certainly many stories of hatred, hostility and threats. 389 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,200 My daughters' nanny, who was in Saint Moritz said to me, 390 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:03,759 "Have you seen the news?" And I said, "No." 391 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:09,400 And in fact, the news was telling me about Maurizio's death. 392 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:16,960 I was... incoherent. 393 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,079 And... I couldn't remember... I mean... 394 00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:28,759 I didn't know what... 395 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:35,160 my marital situation was. 396 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,480 I could no longer think. 397 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:43,440 Then I tried to... 398 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,799 to... 399 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,359 accept it... 400 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:58,720 because I'd lost... 401 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:01,799 my husband. 402 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:06,160 Who was the person I'd loved more than anyone else. 403 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,240 It was like being hit over the head. 404 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:22,279 So I shrugged off all my thoughts. 405 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:31,160 At first I thought it was one of the dirty business deals Maurizio made. 406 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,119 The manoeuvres performed to get into the management of Swiss casinos 407 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,759 seem to be intertwined with the Gucci affair. 408 00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:42,759 After selling the brand to the Arabs at Investcorp, 409 00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:44,319 after paying his debts to Delfo Zorzi, 410 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,119 suspected of the Piazza Fontana massacre, 411 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Gucci had 40 million dollars left. 412 00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,799 This led to clashes between groups to manage gambling halls. 413 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,200 The investigations into this continue. 414 00:32:55,599 --> 00:33:00,000 I talked to Pina, who told me, "See what a nice present I've given you? 415 00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:04,759 But now you've got to pay. 416 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,160 And you'd better pay a lot. 417 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Otherwise, one down, two to go." Who are my daughters. 418 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,279 "Please, I'll give you all the money you want, 419 00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:29,039 "but no dead children." 420 00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:34,759 When Maurizio was killed, I was in the hotel. I was really upset. 421 00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:39,319 I never would have thought Pina would be able 422 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,319 to put together this group of... 423 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,319 I don't know... 424 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,440 to kill Maurizio. 425 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:57,200 Maurizio Gucci's funeral MILAN - 3 APRIL 1995 426 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,839 Patrizia plays the role of the widow. 427 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,640 She wears these dark diva glasses, 428 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,199 even a veil to cover her head. 429 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,360 With all this, 430 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:20,280 it's not easy to see the real expressions on Patrizia Reggiani's face. 431 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,800 She really didn't seem to be in mourning. 432 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,679 And I become more and more shocked. 433 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,920 It was as if nothing had happened to her. 434 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719 The important thing was she'd gotten back 435 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,760 all the things that belonged to her, as she said. 436 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,840 According to the press, 437 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,119 Patrizia Reggiani asked Paola Franchi, on the day of the funeral, 438 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,639 for some of Maurizio's clothes, so they wouldn't be lost, 439 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:49,880 and at the same time she asked her to leave the flat in Corso Venezia. 440 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,320 When we found ourselves needing to write about this individual who, 441 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,000 as crime and judicial news journalists, we did not know very well, 442 00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:02,960 we quickly found ourselves facing the image of a complex man, 443 00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:07,360 not a simple man, a man with many different sides to him. 444 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,199 Then I understood where it came from, from a personal and professional history 445 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:18,800 of often violent conflicts within the business, with his business partners. 446 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,320 He was not always an easy person to deal with. 447 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:27,760 It's difficult to look for the simplest and most ordinary solution. 448 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,159 The simple solution was in front of everyone's eyes, it was in his family. 449 00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:37,519 It's easier to go search for a glossy explanation, 450 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,960 which the Gucci world was, 451 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:43,280 so an explanation that had something to do 452 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,079 with the business side, the male part. 453 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:49,320 The investigations were male-oriented. 454 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,440 The investigations just went round in circles... 455 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,920 It seemed like a crime that was destined to remained unsolved. 456 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,400 Two years passed between the murder and the arrest. 457 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,880 Those two years were really tough for me. 458 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,519 Every time I passed in front a police station, 459 00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,320 I was tempted to turn myself in. 460 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,840 What stopped me? The fact that I'd have to turn the others in, too? 461 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,559 Reggiani, with two children? 462 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,519 After all the years we'd spent together, 463 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:41,599 I phoned her to ask her how I should behave and she said, 464 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,960 "I'll get you out of this with your head held high." 465 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,360 And then things went the way they went. 466 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,039 She shocked me when, passing by the cemetery, 467 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,840 she says, "Let's go visit Maurizio." 468 00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:00,039 "Visit Maurizio?" 469 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,519 I felt guilty, torn apart inside. 470 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:10,679 That's when the veil lifted for me. And I thought, "What have I done? 471 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,679 "How could I have believed in this woman for so many years?" 472 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,639 That murder left its mark on me. 473 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,880 I managed multiple law enforcement workers at the time, 474 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,880 and in the end I asked each of them 475 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,760 the same question, "What about the Gucci murder?" 476 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,199 And they all answered, "It's not our case." 477 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:42,599 Until one day, in January 1997, 478 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:44,400 I received a now infamous phone call. 479 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,199 It was about 10 p.m., my secretary came in and said to me, 480 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,480 "Sir, there's someone on the phone for you, he'll only talk to you." 481 00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:58,840 I say, "Alright, pass me the call, let's finish off the evening." 482 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,159 I take the call, the man introduces himself as Gabriele Carpanese, 483 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,119 and he says, "I have to tell you some important things. 484 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:09,480 "Are you interested in the Gucci murder?" 485 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,320 Carpanese explained to me that he and his wife moved to a small hotel 486 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,519 and started to have less and less money, 487 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,039 so he came up with something 488 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:26,719 along with the nephew of the owner of this Adri Hotel. 489 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,400 He said that in Colombia 490 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,039 he'd been part of a gang. 491 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,119 Savioni, the hotel owner's nephew, 492 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:40,400 believed what Carpanese was telling him. 493 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,559 At that point Savioni responded, "We did something big, too." 494 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:48,440 He said, "If things had gone the way they were supposed to go, 495 00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:52,000 "I would be a millionaire right now, because I was an accomplice 496 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,039 "to a very important murder." 497 00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:55,440 The Gucci murder. 498 00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,000 GUCCI, 3 GUNSHOTS AND A MYSTERY 499 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,800 He says, "Yes, I'm a friend of Giuseppina Auriemma, 500 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,119 "who in turn is a friend of Gucci's wife, Patrizia Reggiani. 501 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:12,480 "And she came to ask us on behalf of Patrizia Reggiani 502 00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:17,280 "to kill her husband, and she was going to pay us very well." 503 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,039 Auriemma and Savioni met in Naples. 504 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,960 Savioni's wife was a Neapolitan woman, 505 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,199 and she was a friend of Pina Auriemma's. They met in Naples. 506 00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:37,679 Pina comes to Milan, Savioni comes to Milan, they meet again, 507 00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:42,440 and their friendship had never ended, they'd kept in touch. 508 00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:47,000 So when Mrs. Reggiani... 509 00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:54,760 told Auriemma about her plan to kill her husband, 510 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,199 Auriemma thought she'd ask Savioni. 511 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,480 Actually, Savioni was not a real criminal at all. 512 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,159 In fact, he had no criminal record. 513 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,159 Maybe a bounced check or something like that, but certainly nothing criminal. 514 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,639 So they see a way to make some money. 515 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:19,440 I went to Savioni who, it's known, does not have the criminal background 516 00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:24,639 to be able to carry out a murder. 517 00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:30,039 In fact, it's strange that Savioni was able to find 518 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:33,400 the people who would actually carry out the murder. 519 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,239 I didn't know... 520 00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:41,559 that they, the Beagle Boys as I call them, 521 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:46,320 had contacted this person 522 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,079 to ask him to kill Maurizio. 523 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:55,480 And they too, I must say, were amateurs. 524 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,079 When Auriemma left, 525 00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:01,519 she really didn't have any intention of killing Maurizio Gucci. 526 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,679 She knew she could get money out of Patrizia 527 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,159 without ever committing the murder. 528 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,320 She'd talked to me. 529 00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:16,880 "What if I had your husband killed?" And I'd told her, "Look, be my guest." 530 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,599 Except that unfortunately Patrizia, seeing that the murder never took place, 531 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,440 started to get suspicious, thinking, "Something's not right here." 532 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:27,719 When she realised this, 533 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,679 that I was not taking care of getting this... 534 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,960 murder done, she wanted to meet Savioni, and she came on the scene. 535 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,239 After that both Savioni and Reggiani got me out of the way. 536 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,039 So she spoke to Savioni, 537 00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,800 and besides trying to force him, she also tried to butter him up, 538 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,639 even giving him a fabulous cashmere jumper 539 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,199 which Savioni had probably never seen in his life. 540 00:41:56,639 --> 00:42:00,639 And I never heard another thing about what she promised, 541 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,280 about what she said, about how she managed to convince him, 542 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,800 because in my opinion Savioni wasn't so important. 543 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,559 He was a normal guy. 544 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,559 At one point Savioni meets up with an old acquaintance of his, 545 00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:20,599 who he always calls with a kind of respect, Mr Cicala. 546 00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:25,960 Cicala always needed money, because he was a bit of a gambler. 547 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,920 And he also seemed to be a drug dealer. 548 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,760 So in contact with slightly more important criminal groups. 549 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,159 And he... 550 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,280 in time, gets in touch with Ceraulo... 551 00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:49,039 who is the hitman who actually carried out the Maurizio Gucci murder. 552 00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:53,239 I never thought it would end this way, 553 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,920 because it was supposed to be a scam. 554 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,400 Carpanese explained that it was not Savioni and his accomplices' intention 555 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,760 to carry through with the Gucci murder. 556 00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:11,679 But just to extort a sum of money from Patrizia Reggiani. 557 00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:17,960 And in fact they asked for a deposit, multiple millions. 558 00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:20,519 Pina had told me that, 559 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:24,320 since she was selling evening gowns, 560 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,760 she'd asked for a loan of 150 million. 561 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,599 The bank director had told me, 562 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:37,559 "Look, if you don't want to see your 150 million again, 563 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,639 "go ahead and give it to her." 564 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,800 But it didn't last long for them, because they went gambling at casinos. 565 00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:49,000 They thought they'd keep asking Reggiani for more. 566 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,320 And she said, "Okay, I'll give you the rest, 567 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,400 "the rest of the money, but you have to kill him, 568 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,639 "because he's about to marry his girlfriend, 569 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,000 "his new girlfriend, and I don't like that." 570 00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:11,360 That's when they decided to actually carry out the murder. 571 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,159 That's where Carpanese's story ended. 572 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,960 And Ninni opens an investigation 573 00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:29,079 which is truly spectacular, just like in the movies, 574 00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:31,480 and in fact he manages to nail them all. 575 00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,199 Obviously it wasn't possible to arrest them all on the basis 576 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,559 of a statement made by an individual like Carpanese. 577 00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:41,400 So Operation Carlos was born. 578 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,639 They start from the true mistake of this whole story, the blackmail, 579 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,199 so Patrizia who doesn't pay everything, these guys who blackmail her. 580 00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:53,519 And that's where Carlos comes in. 581 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,719 There was an inspector whose mum was Colombian. 582 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,320 I asked him, "Do you speak Spanish well?" 583 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:09,000 "Yeah! I speak Old Spanish, the kind they speak in Colombia." 584 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,880 "Would you be up to infiltrating, saying you've come from Colombia 585 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,159 "to bring some money to Carpanese?" 586 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,920 "Sure," he said. "No problem." 587 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,920 So one day he turns up at the Adri Hotel 588 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,519 and tells Savioni in Spanish that he's looking for Carpanese. 589 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:33,480 Savioni calls Carpanese and says, 590 00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:37,400 "Look, the guy you say is a killer is here." 591 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,480 He says, "He's got this steely gaze, that guy is really scary." 592 00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:47,119 Carpanese comes down, they speak in Spanish, 593 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:53,800 and Carpanese asks him if he's willing to blackmail someone 594 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,679 who owes Savioni some money. 595 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:03,039 "No problem, tell him I'll either bring him the money they're asking for, 596 00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:05,159 "or else I'll bring him Mrs. Gucci's head." 597 00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:09,519 Savioni was happy about this answer, 598 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:13,000 and he said, "Look, here's 50,000 lire, 599 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,559 "take him to a restaurant, and take my car." 600 00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:20,960 We were amazed. The car came straight to the office, 601 00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,039 we bugged it, 602 00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:27,840 and after they went to the restaurant, 603 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,880 they brought it back to Savioni. 604 00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:35,639 Savioni contacted Auriemma first, by phone, 605 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,760 and told her to come because he had some important news to give her. 606 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,559 And he took the car we'd bugged 607 00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:48,400 to go pick her up at the train station. 608 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,280 When he arrived, Savioni said to Giuseppina, 609 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,360 "Listen, get in the car, because we can be sure no one can hear us here." 610 00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:01,880 They got in the car and we listened. 611 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,920 Actually, I was right there in the radio room as they spoke, 612 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,440 and I could hear everything they were saying. Savioni said, 613 00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:13,320 "Listen, Gucci still owes us a lot of money." 614 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,639 "Yeah, okay," said Auriemma, 615 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,920 "but this time I've got to get something out of it, too." 616 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,760 I decided that what we'd heard was sufficient, 617 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,159 so we sent all the transcriptions to the judge, 618 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,239 who decided to accuse all of the people involved, 619 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,880 and to proceed to arrest them. 620 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,719 31 January 1997 621 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,280 Friday 31st January, at dawn, it was 4:30 in the morning, 622 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,840 we made the arrests. 623 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,360 All of the accused are arrested simultaneously. 624 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,639 They don't know who's been arrested. 625 00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:02,199 And when, finally, the investigation turned towards us, 626 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,400 and they came to arrest me, I felt relieved, 627 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,239 because I knew it was the punishment I deserved. 628 00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:15,639 I got to Mrs. Gucci's house. 629 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,320 I didn't think they'd catch me. 630 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,239 At one point I hear this guy knocking on the door. 631 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,199 So I come out with all my thingies, 632 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:49,519 in my underwear, and I say, 633 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,159 "What is this, a robbery?" 634 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,519 "No, madam, we're here to arrest you." 635 00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:57,679 "To arrest me?" 636 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,840 I asked Patrizia Reggiani 637 00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:08,039 if she knew the reason we were there, at her house. 638 00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:12,559 She answered very coldly, "Yes, for my husband's murder." 639 00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:17,360 Then my daughter, who'd woken up, obviously, asked, 640 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,039 "Mum, what have you done?" 641 00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:21,519 "Eh... 642 00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:24,840 "my business." 643 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,119 She'd put on all of her jewellery, 644 00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:31,320 a flashy fur coat. 645 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,320 I said to Mrs. Reggiani, 646 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,440 "Look, you're going to be arrested and taken to jail, 647 00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:40,800 "so I recommend you leave the jewellery you're wearing 648 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,559 "and that fur coat with your mother." 649 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:49,559 But she said, "No, my jewellery and my fur coat go where I go." 650 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,079 She said goodbye to her daughters, saying, "See you later, I'll be back soon. 651 00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,119 "Stay inside and wait for me." 652 00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,559 I was... confused. 653 00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:05,239 I felt completely empty inside. 654 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,320 A real turn of events. 655 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,079 The Maurizio Gucci case is turning into an Italian Eve Dallas story. 656 00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:23,280 After two years, the investigations have reached a turning point. 657 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,559 - Did Mrs. Reggiani say anything? - No, absolutely nothing. 658 00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:35,400 - Did she claim she's innocent? - She didn't say anything. 659 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,400 - How did she react when you arrived? - She remained quite calm. 660 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,880 - Maybe she was expecting it? - We don't know that. 661 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,400 Patrizia Reggiani gave me the idea 662 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,599 of a cold, detached woman, 663 00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:56,280 who only valued money, 664 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,719 luxury, and friends in high places. 665 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,719 When Patrizia was arrested, I was in shock. 666 00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:11,159 To plan a murder requires a particular type of intelligence. 667 00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:16,559 And I didn't think Patrizia had that type of intelligence. 668 00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:19,599 I never believed that Patrizia was a murderer. 669 00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:26,239 It was not a question of intelligence, it was a question of business. 670 00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:32,000 Patrizia is from the Milan where "I work, I earn, I pay, I expect." 671 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,000 That was the way she reasoned, 672 00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:40,440 and she probably applied that reasoning to everything. 673 00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:44,480 We see her leave with this group of police officers, 674 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,119 but she's short, so she disappears amongst the cars. 675 00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,760 We wonder where they're taking her. 676 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,800 They're taking her to Criminalpol in Piazza San Sepolcro. 677 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,199 We run there, day has broken, and within an hour the news breaks 678 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,320 and basically the same thing happens as had happened on the day of the crime, 679 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:09,320 so Milan goes crazy because we're back to square one, 680 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,239 and once we find out it was his wife, 681 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,320 obviously within an hour the news has travelled across the world. 682 00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:18,880 CASINOS AND BILLIONS BUT THE SOLUTION WAS RIGHT THERE... 683 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,719 GUCCI, CRIME WITHIN THE FAMILY FIRST WIFE ARRESTED 684 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,239 GUCCI'S WIFE HAD HIM KILLED 685 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,519 PATRIZIA ARMED WITH HATRED FOR THE MAN SHE'D LOST 686 00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:27,079 GUCCI EX-WIFE BAGGED 687 00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:29,280 SEX GREED AND MURDER 688 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:34,480 My mother asked me, "What have you done?" "If I'm here..." 689 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:43,000 After a while, Patrizia Reggiani's two daughters arrived. 690 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,599 The eldest, Alessandra, asked to speak with me. 691 00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:53,639 She asked, "Are you convinced it was my mother? 692 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:58,559 "Because I don't think so, because I'm convinced of something. 693 00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:01,639 "If my mother had wanted my father dead, 694 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,360 "she would have taken the gun and shot him in the head." 695 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,920 I don't know a pistol's range, 696 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,559 and I was afraid that when I saw him, I wouldn't have targeted, 697 00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:18,440 I wouldn't have aimed correctly. 698 00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:24,719 I brought Savioni into my office and told him, "Look, we know everything." 699 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,159 He looked at me and said, "No, no, I have absolutely nothing to say, 700 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960 "I'm innocent, I have nothing to do with this." 701 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,400 The door opened, and Carlos walked into the office. 702 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:46,159 Hearing him speak Italian, he said, "You tricked me. Okay, I confess." 703 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,679 He gets it all off his chest, everything he had on his conscience. 704 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,280 He didn't think they would really have gone all the way. 705 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:02,159 Auriemma was arrested and taken straight to the San Vittore jail. 706 00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:06,599 I wanted to try to make her talk, too. 707 00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:10,320 Strangely enough, the next day, in jail, Auriemma had changed her mind 708 00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:13,119 and no longer said anything. 709 00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:17,760 It may also be that in jail 710 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,280 they told her, "Don't talk, because we hate those who talk 711 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,679 so if you talk, your life in here will become very difficult." 712 00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:29,039 I didn't speak right after being arrested, 713 00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:33,079 because I was consulting with my lawyers. 714 00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:37,599 My version is that I did not commission anything 715 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,320 to the person who did this. 716 00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:43,480 Which was Pina. 717 00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:49,000 She immediately accused me of ordering the killing. 718 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,719 I pled innocent. 719 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,800 31 JANUARY 1997 720 00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:03,400 In the end, they took them away. 721 00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:08,360 I think the first one to come out, but I could be mistaken, was Auriemma, 722 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,400 followed by Gucci, 723 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,519 without the fur coat, bundled up in something 724 00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:17,519 they must have lent her inside. 725 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:30,320 When she came out of the office, before getting into the car, 726 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,280 she took one last look at the church 727 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,280 which was across from my office in Piazza San Sepolcro. 728 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,639 It was the church where she and Maurizio Gucci had gotten married. 729 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,679 The Gucci trial began around the end of '98 730 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,519 and was closed definitively with the Court of Appeals sentence 731 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:20,960 at the beginning of 2001. 732 00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:24,679 Patrizia is in the courtroom 733 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:30,079 this whole time, and almost seems to feel comfortable there. 734 00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:39,559 Patrizia Reggiani had no interest in commissioning Maurizio Gucci's murder, 735 00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:41,480 for a very simple reason: 736 00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:44,280 when their marriage was coming to an end, 737 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,320 they signed an financial agreement 738 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,519 in which Maurizio Gucci agreed to pay Patrizia Reggiani 739 00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,440 a million Swiss francs a year, a million euros. 740 00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:57,039 It's a considerable sum, 741 00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:01,000 which would allow Patrizia Reggiani to live a glamorous lifestyle. 742 00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:10,119 At the trial, I explained that I'd been blackmailed 743 00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:14,559 by Pina and her friends, up to 600 million. 744 00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:18,320 I said, "Your Honour, that may be true, 745 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:24,280 " but the fact remains that she paid 746 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,760 "even before the murder." 747 00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:30,280 No one pays ahead of time if there's not going to be a murder. 748 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:37,079 So this attempt of Patrizia Reggiani's to defend herself also failed. 749 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:44,000 During the trial, Reggiani seemed to be very tough. 750 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,480 She looked people in the eye. She was... 751 00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:50,039 she was angry. 752 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:56,960 During the trial, my mother and my two daughters never abandoned me. 753 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,960 All three of them... 754 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,880 were with me. 755 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,480 Obviously, as a VIP... 756 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,239 I didn't have... I wasn't in a cage. 757 00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:14,480 They always believed in my innocence. 758 00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:22,320 From the start, she stuck with the idea of the "misunderstood commissioning." 759 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,199 But at the end of the trial, in my opinion, 760 00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:31,239 I won't say she got off lightly, because there are other murder trials 761 00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:36,480 where people get off even more lightly, but when the first prosecutor 762 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,360 and then the appeals prosecutor both asked for life in prison, 763 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,159 I thought she was going to get it. 764 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:47,039 The Court of Appeals confirmed the sentence from the second trial. 765 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:50,679 The heaviest sentence was given to the actual perpetrator of the murder, 766 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,480 Ceraulo, who got 28 years and 11 months. 767 00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:54,960 ACTUAL PERPETRATOR OF THE MURDER. 768 00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:57,400 SENTENCED TO 28 YEARS, HE SERVED HIS TIME. HE IS NOW A FREE MAN. 769 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:02,159 Pina Auriemma got the lightest sentence, 19 and a half years. 770 00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:03,960 ORGANISER OF THE MURDER. 771 00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:06,559 SENTENCED TO 19 YEARS, SHE SERVED HER TIME. SHE IS NOW A FREE WOMAN. 772 00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:08,079 Savioni got 20 years. 773 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,679 ORGANISER OF THE MURDER. 774 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,800 SENTENCED TO 20 YEARS, HE SERVED HIS TIME. HE IS NOW A FREE MAN. 775 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,320 Cicala got 26 years. 776 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,679 ACTUAL PERPETRATOR OF THE MURDER. 777 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,679 SENTENCED TO 26 YEARS, HE SERVED HIS TIME. DECEASED. 778 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,239 Patrizia Reggiani was sentenced to 26 years in jail. 779 00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:26,880 CONTRACTED THE MURDER. 780 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,679 SENTENCED TO 26 YEARS, SHE SERVED HER TIME. SHE IS NOW A FREE WOMAN. 781 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,159 Reggiani, even after the trial, 782 00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:35,599 continued to claim that Pina had blackmailed her. 783 00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:39,519 Such a long, torturous trial, with so many witnesses, 784 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:42,639 so many people that were questioned in the courtroom, 785 00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:45,119 would have made anyone uncomfortable. 786 00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:48,920 7But not her. She came out of that trial just the way she came into it. 787 00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:57,280 Victor's Residence is the place I spent 18 years. 788 00:59:57,719 --> 01:00:00,880 So, I would sleep, I would shower, 789 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,800 and I would go down to the garden. 790 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,239 I had preferential treatment. 791 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,159 Her surname had a weight in there. 792 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,239 The jail was split into two groups, 793 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,000 pro Patrizia, pro Pina Auriemma. 794 01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:18,199 Because they couldn't stand her. 795 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,639 They knew she was lying a lot. 796 01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:25,559 My relationship with the inmates was excellent. 797 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,559 Excellent. 798 01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:30,400 She never gave anyone anything. 799 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,079 They would even steal the food from her fridge out of spite. 800 01:00:37,639 --> 01:00:41,679 Because she never gave anyone so much as a chocolate. 801 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,559 What can I say? It wasn't bad. 802 01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:48,639 Actually, it was great. 803 01:00:48,719 --> 01:00:52,000 I wish I was still in San Vittore. 804 01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:55,159 She brought in her hairdresser from outside, 805 01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:58,559 her surgeon, her dentist... 806 01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:00,760 She was Mrs. Gucci. 807 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,599 They were 20... 18 years... 808 01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:05,559 of peace. 809 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,760 Because I didn't get on with my mother. 810 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,599 Of course, I would have preferred to avoid those years. 811 01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:14,400 She had the right to day release, 812 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,679 a benefit which would have allowed her to work. 813 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,280 But Patrizia Reggiani chose not to take advantage of it. 814 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,639 "I've never worked," she informed the supervisory magistrates in Milan. 815 01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:29,800 Patrizia Reggiani spends her time at San Vittore caring for her plants 816 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,920 and, apparently, a pet, a ferret, 817 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,679 rather than work, even if it would mean leaving the jail. 818 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,280 In jail... 819 01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:44,800 you reflect on your useless existence, 820 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,079 because with all the pain I found in there, 821 01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:52,280 I asked myself, "Where have I been until now?" 822 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,239 And when you get out, and you close those doors for the last time, 823 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,000 you're a completely new person, you're not the person you used to be. 824 01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:05,639 Jail did not change me one bit, 825 01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:09,480 because I came out just the way I'd come in. 826 01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:14,519 The murder of stylist Maurizio Gucci. 827 01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:18,719 His wife, Patrizia Reggiani, could serve the last three years of her sentence 828 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,719 working for social services. 829 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,000 After 16 years at San Vittore, the woman has been free for a few months, 830 01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:27,800 awaiting the decision from the supervisory court. 831 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,400 The injunction's come. Patrizia Reggiani will volunteer at Caritas 832 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,880 and will work in a jewellery shop. 833 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,440 I even did my volunteer work, 834 01:02:36,519 --> 01:02:41,480 and then finally this volunteer work came to an end. 835 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,480 Patrizia, once again, 836 01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:54,239 has demonstrated that she is not the person she is often made out to be, 837 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,639 this ferocious assassin, this heartless person, 838 01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:00,880 this ruthless person who wanted her husband dead. 839 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,960 No, she's also a person who's known how to accept responsibility, 840 01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:09,320 and now she's someone who can say she's at peace with herself in a way, 841 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:14,760 and this has definitely helped her to live the present in a different way. 842 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,239 The new Patrizia is in a real pickle. 843 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:25,000 I have to take care of the inheritance my mother left me, 844 01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:29,159 so I have to see accountants... 845 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,119 and one tells me one thing, another tells me another thing. 846 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,679 Then I have to see my lawyers, 847 01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:43,719 and I have to deal with my flats, 848 01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:45,480 and there are plenty of them. 849 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,800 Now, obviously, I have to do it all myself. 850 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,360 Many years later, I ran into Patrizia Reggiani and I asked her, 851 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,639 "Madam, how did those 17 years go?" 852 01:04:02,719 --> 01:04:05,360 And she said, "They flew by." 853 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:07,800 Hats off to you. 854 01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:24,159 There is no fashion left... in Italy. 855 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,840 Because... 856 01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:34,679 these things... 857 01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:46,119 These ups and downs have made me incredibly strong. 858 01:04:54,719 --> 01:04:58,199 But I haven't risen again yet. 859 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,719 Not yet. 860 01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:18,199 I am Patrizia Reggiani Gucci. 861 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,920 Revised and Synchronized by FAST TITLES MEDIA 69629

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