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The one thing I knew about Divine personally
when I was living in Provincetown...
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...was when Divine came back to town
to do The Neon Woman. It was one summer.
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And it was kind of a big deal
because Divine had left town...
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...under very criminal circumstances
and couldn't come back to town or they'd--
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She'd be sued and oh, the whole thing.
S0 they had to pay off, I think, a few people...
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...to get Divine to perform.
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S0 it was a great summer.
They performed at the Madeira Club...
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...and did The Neon Woman.
I think it was the Madeira Club.
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It was a great show.
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And the one story that we remembered the best
was that Divine was driving...
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...down one of the little streets
and I think fell asleep at the wheel...
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...and drove through the window
of the hardware store.
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It was the local hardware store. If you came
down this little street, there it was.
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And we were sitting in Front Street
and somebody came in and said:
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“Divine just drove through the window of the
hardware store." Everybody started laughing.
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And then Howard Gruber
came out of the kitchen and said:
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“Dove or drove?"
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I just remember that vividly.
But what was funnier...
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...was that nobody charged Divine
with anything.
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And the police actually asked Divine
for autographs.
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That was the story we heard. Ha-ha-ha.
It was pretty wonderful.
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Here's me and Divvie...
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...at an art opening I had in 1976 or something.
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In the end, after Hairspray...
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...Divine and I hadn't really connected for
a long time and we started to connect again.
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This was like a year before he died.
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And, um...
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...we had a ritual where,
because he didn't drive, I would pick him up.
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We would g0 to the Lexington Market...
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[DOG BARKING]
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...and eat like 5 pounds of chicken livers...
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...and then g0 to the movies.
He would fall asleep because he had that, um...
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What do you call it?
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MAN: Sleep apnea.
-Yes, sleep apnea.
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And... But he would know everything
that happened in the movie.
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Even though he would just-- He was gone,
you know. It was really weird.
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And we became really close in that time
before he died.
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And he really showed me...
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...how to have some self-esteem.
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He adored me, and I adored him,
and he told me not to worry.
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And he was very spiritual at that time, I think.
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And ljust felt so completely, um...
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...timeless when I was with him.
It was-- He--
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It just spread. It felt really good
to be around him. He was very spiritual.
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And had seemed like--
Happier than I'd ever seen him ever.
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And I think that people will agree
with me in that.
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Um, you know, he had made it,
he had gotten some interesting, like...
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...different acting things that he'd done
and he was gonna do.
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I was gonna do his portrait.
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And he died the weekend
before I was gonna do his portrait.
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I wanted to do his portrait so bad.
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I was gonna stay with him in New York
and do his portrait.
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But I did his portrait
from a photograph anyway.
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And Pat Moran has that picture right now.
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I did it from the photograph
that I think is very popular of him...
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...where he's like this:
And it's very...
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...Buddha-istic, you know.
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We-- There were some really funny stories
that Cookie talks about in Provincetown...
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...with Divine in the really old days. Um...
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We were-- We were horrible. We stole stuff.
We were terrible. We--
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We caused scenes. Um...
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Cookie lived with Divine for a while
in that big house on Commercial Street.
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Oh, it was just, you know, um...
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Divine never let anything get on his nerves.
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He never let anything get on his nerves.
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And that taught me a lot.
He would let things just go.
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If somebody was irritable...
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...he would just ignore it.
He wouldn't play into any--
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He was just on this--
You know, he was like total acceptance.
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And, um...
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In closing this little eulogy,
I'll say that...
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...um...
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...l'm really happy that Divine died happy,
because he was very happy at that time.
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And I'm jealous.
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MAN: That's a good point. A lot of people die,
I'm sure, with a lot of regrets.
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Yeah, I think that's the real hell
in life and death, is dying unhappy.
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And I'm really jealous.
And he died quick, he died happy.
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And very spiritual.
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And he's my mentor in that.
S0 there you go.
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He's one of my guardian angels.
Divine is with me a lot.
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You know, he's one of those
kind of people that...
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Or I'm one of those kind of people, rather,
that will just talk to him when I'm at home.
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MAN: Are you serious?
-Absolutely. Yeah.
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I have a huge picture of Divine.
It's probably 6 feet tall, 7 feet tall in my room.
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And, uh, I-- Oh, yeah, every day. Yeah.
And Christmas is still hard.
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[CAR HORN BLARES]
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You know, when Divine was on tour and
everything, doing his record promotion...
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...he would come into town
and just shower us with gifts...
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...and, you know, just be Divine.
It was a good time.
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There was always laughter
and everything like that.
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S0 now at Christmas, Divine always comes up
in one of the first conversations we have...
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...about how much we miss him
and what he'd be doing.
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And, uh, it'll always be a hole
at Christmastime...
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...because he was Santa. Auntie Mame.
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MAN: What do you think are some of the most
common misperceptions of Divine?
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YEATON:
That he was, um...
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Well, his character is very different
from his personal life.
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Um, the characters that he played
were bigger than life...
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...and flamboyant and crazy and wild.
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Divine behind closed doors was, to me...
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...a very-- A family man.
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A very loving person.
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Of course, he had the wild side, but, um...
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You know, he liked to-- Good conversations
with the family.
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Hanging around,
of course eating all night long. Um...
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Watching television. Things like that.
You know, just very...
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I think a lot of people look at him as...
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...a party animal. And he really wasn't.
He truly wasn't. He was a down-to-earth person.
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And when he left us, it was...
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At that point in my life, it was by far
the worst thing that ever happened to me.
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By far. But he, along with my grandmother,
Ashley, are the two dates I just--
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I don't want to really remember that.
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I remember his life and not his death at all.
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I think that's the way he'd want it.
I don't remember his death day.
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I don't get depressed on his death day at all.
But his birthday, I celebrate it. So...
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You know, and that's Divine.
He was a very spiritual person as well.
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And he wouldn't want people
moping around.
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You know, if Divine was here
and I only had 3O seconds...
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...l wouldn't say one thing.
I'd just hug him.
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Um...
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Because when I--
lt was a very safe place as a child.
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Extremely safe.
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No one could ever get to me with Divine.
And I felt--
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I don't know, it was just-- It's amazing.
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And it's something
that can never be replaced.
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I don't think I'd say anything.
I'd just have to get up and hug him.
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And kiss on him for a while.
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You know, just be his godson.
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Divine took that title
very, very, very seriously.
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He told me that he didn't think
he would ever have a son.
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That I was the closest thing to it.
And he treated me that way.
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And I treated him that way as well.
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Divine was basically the person in my life
who taught me how to love someone...
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...because he treated me
the way I will treat people who I love now.
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Because he defined that for me.
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He treated me better
than any person in the world.
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