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I'M THEIR WORST NIGHTMARE
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COME TO LIFE.
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I'M A GIRL WHO CAN'T SHUT UP.
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THERE'S NOT A GUY BIG ENOUGH CAN
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HANDLE THIS MOUTH.
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I'M GONNA TELL EVERYONE WHAT YOU
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DID TO ME.
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♪ IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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IN MY HOUSE ♪
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♪ IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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IN MY HOUSE ♪
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♪ IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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IN MY HOUSE ♪
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♪ IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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IN MY HOUSE ♪
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IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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IN MY HOUSE, ONLY I WASN'T
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DREAMING.
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I WASN'T DREAMING.
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I DON'T REALLY THINK I WAS
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DREAMING.
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I REALLY THINK SOMETHING
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HAPPENED IN THAT HOUSE.
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♪ IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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IN MY HOUSE ♪
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♪ IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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IN MY HOUSE ♪
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♪ I AM YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE
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COME TO LIFE,
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AND I'M NOT GONNA SHUT UP ♪
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♪ I'M GONNA TELL EVERYONE
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♪ I'M GONNA TELL EVERYONE
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I DISCOVERED KATHY ACKER, THE
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AMERICAN WRITER, AND I WENT TO
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THIS WORKSHOP THAT SHE DID, AND
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SHE TOLD ME, "WHY DO YOU WANT TO
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WRITE?"
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AND I SAID, "BECAUSE NOBODY HAS
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EVER LISTENED TO ME MY WHOLE
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LIFE, AND I HAVE ALL THIS STUFF
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THAT I WANT TO SAY. "
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AND SHE SAID, "THEN, WHY ARE YOU
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DOING SPOKEN WORD?
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YOU SHOULD BE IN A BAND,
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BECAUSE NOBODY GOES TO
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SPOKEN WORD, BUT PEOPLE GO TO
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SEE BANDS. "
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SO, I WENT HOME, AND I STARTED A
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BAND.
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[ INTRODUCTION TO "REBEL GIRL"
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PLAYS ]
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[ CROWD CHEERS ]
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♪ THAT GIRL THINKS SHE'S
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THE QUEEN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ♪
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♪ SHE GOT THE HOTTEST DYKE
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IN TOWN ♪
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♪ THAT GIRL,
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SHE HOLDS HER HEAD UP SO HIGH ♪
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♪ I THINK I WANNA BE
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HER BEST FRIEND, YEAH ♪
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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♪ REBEL GIRL, YOU ARE THE QUEEN
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OF MY WORLD ♪
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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♪ I THINK
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I WANT TO TAKE YOU HOME ♪
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♪ I WANT
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TO TRY ON YOUR CLOTHES ♪
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BIKINI KILL WASN'T JUST THE
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BEST GIRL BAND.
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THEY WERE THE BEST BAND.
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♪ WHEN SHE TALKS,
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I HEAR THE REVOLUTIONS ♪
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KATHLEEN'S VOICE WAS SO
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STRONG AND SO POWERFUL AND SO
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PUNK.
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♪ THE REVOLUTION'S COMING
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♪ IN HER KISS,
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I TASTE THE EVOLUTION ♪
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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THIS WAS NOT A GIRL WHO WAS
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GONNA FADE INTO THE BACKGROUND.
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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KATHLEEN WAS LIKE A BEAM OF
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LIGHT THROUGH THE ENTIRE CROWD
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THAT JUST, LIKE, INFUSED
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EVERYONE WITH REVOLUTION.
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IT'S ALL ABOUT SPEAKING
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WHAT'S UNSPOKEN, SCREAMING
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WHAT'S UNSPOKEN, AND THAT'S WHAT
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KATHLEEN WAS NEVER AFRAID TO DO.
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♪ THAT GIRL THINKS
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SHE'S THE QUEEN. . ♪
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KATHLEEN HANNA IS AN AMAZING
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SINGER, ACTIVIST WHO I THINK
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CHANGED A LOT OF GIRLS' LIVES
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BECAUSE SHE CREATED A NEW ROLE
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MODEL THAT WAS, LIKE, SEXY AND
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TOUGH AND ANGRY AND FUNNY AND
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ALL OF THOSE THINGS AT ONCE.
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♪ YOU ARE THE QUEEN
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OF MY WORLD ♪
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KATHLEEN CAN SOUND
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ARRESTINGLY YOUNG, BUT THEN IT
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JUST MAKES THE WORDS, LIKE, HAVE
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MORE OF AN IMPACT, ESPECIALLY
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WHEN SHE'S SINGING ABOUT TOPICS
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LIKE RAPE.
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THE BIG QUESTION IS IN THE
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LAST FEW YEARS, LIKE, WHY SHE
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HASN'T BEEN DOING MORE.
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♪ REBEL GIRL
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WHAT HAPPENED?
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WHY HAS SHE FORSAKEN US, YOU
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KNOW?
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LIKE, WHAT DID WE DO THAT WAS SO
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BAD?
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NO. UNH-UNH.
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I DON'T, ACTUALLY.
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WELL, IT'S SO
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ALL-ENCOMPASSING, THE QUESTION.
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THERE'S SO MUCH TO ASK.
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[ CROWD CHEERS ]
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THAT'S KATHLEEN HANNA.
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SHE USED TO BE WITH A PUNK BAND
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CALLED BIKINI KILL AND FOLLOWED
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THAT WITH A POPULAR BAND,
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LE TIGRE.
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KATHLEEN ALSO COFOUNDED THE
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FEMINIST MOVEMENT CALLED
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RIOT GRRRL.
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SHE'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS AN
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UNSTOPPABLE FORCE.
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AS PART OF OUR SERIES TITLED
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"MUSICIANS AND ARTISTS WHO MAKE
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A DIFFERENCE," KATHLEEN TALKS
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ABOUT HER BEGINNINGS AND WHY,
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IN 2005, SHE STOPPED
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PERFORMING.
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[ STATIC CRACKLES ]
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THESE ARE MY ORIGIN STORIES.
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I HAVE A FEW I CAN FLIP THROUGH
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BECAUSE THINGS NEVER REALLY
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BEGIN AT THE BEGINNING.
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I WAS BORN IN PORTLAND, OREGON.
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MY MOM WAS A NURSE.
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MY DAD WAS A PIPE FITTER.
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MY SISTER'S FOUR YEARS OLDER
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THAN ME.
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I ALREADY KNEW I WAS GONNA BE
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SOME KIND OF ARTIST.
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I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT KIND.
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MY MOM AND I HAD A REALLY
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SPECIFIC RELATIONSHIP.
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SHE'S TOTALLY SADISTIC AND
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FUNNY, AND I SAY THAT WITH,
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LIKE, LOVE AND GENEROSITY
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TOWARDS HER IN MY HEART.
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ONE OF MY FIRST BIG MEMORIES WAS
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MY MOM HEARD ABOUT THIS THING,
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THE TRUST GAME.
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IT'S LIKE A TRUST-BUILDING
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EXERCISE, AND SHE'S LIKE, "I'M
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GONNA GET ON MY KNEES, AND I'M
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GONNA FALL BACKWARDS, AND YOU
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CATCH ME.
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AND THEN YOU STAND UP, AND YOU
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FALL BACKWARDS, AND I'LL CATCH
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YOU. "
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SO, SHE FALLS BACKWARDS, AND,
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LIKE, I CATCH HER.
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AND THEN, I FALL BACK, AND MY
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MOM STEPS OUT OF THE WAY AND
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LETS ME FALL.
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AND I LOOK UP FROM THE CARPET,
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AND MY MOM'S STANDING OVER ME,
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LAUGHING AT ME, AND SHE SAYS,
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"LET THAT BE A LESSON TO YOU.
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DON'T TRUST ANYONE, NOT EVEN
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YOUR OWN MOTHER. "
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♪ UH-OH
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I MOVED A LOT AS A KID.
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WE MOVED EVERY THREE YEARS, AND
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WHEN I WAS 14, WE MOVED ALL THE
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WAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, FROM
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MARYLAND TO THE
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PACIFIC NORTHWEST.
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I WENT TO COLLEGE AT
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EVERGREEN STATE COLLEGE IN
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OLYMPIA, WASHINGTON.
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AND I STUDIED PHOTOGRAPHY.
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THAT'S WHEN I FIRST MET
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KATHLEEN HANNA.
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SHE LITERALLY MADE AN ENTRANCE,
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'CAUSE I REMEMBER SHE WAS LATE
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FOR A CLASS.
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I GUESS MY FIRST IMPRESSIONS
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WERE, SHE REMINDED ME OF A YOUNG
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ELIZABETH TAYLOR.
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TAMMY RAE WAS JUST THE
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PUNKEST THING I'D EVER SEEN AND
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HAD ALL THESE IDEAS AND, LIKE,
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TAUGHT ME ABOUT SONIC YOUTH AND
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PIXIES, STUFF I DIDN'T KNOW
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ABOUT.
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WE WERE ALL TRYING TO MAKE
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FEMINIST WORK THAT WAS KIND OF
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INSPIRED BY JENNY HOLZER AND
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BARBARA KRUGER.
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WE WERE TAKING THESE PHOTO
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CLASSES, AND WHEN WE WOULD BRING
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IN OUR WORK, WE WERE TREATED
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LIKE WE WERE CRAZY.
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I MADE WORK ABOUT SEXISM.
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I TOOK PICTURES FROM BOOKS I
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FOUND IN THE LIBRARY.
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SO, I DID THIS THING THAT
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JUXTAPOSED THE IMAGES OF THE
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WOMEN AND THEN THIS PICTURE OF
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THE LITTLE GIRL IN THIS, LIKE,
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PORTRAIT, AND IT SAID, "PRETEND
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YOU LIKE IT" ON HER, AND THEN IT
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SAID, "BELIEVE YOU LIKE IT" ON
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THE HOUSEWIVES.
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BECAUSE MY WORK WAS CENSORED
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FROM THE COLLEGE, WE STARTED AN
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ART GALLERY IN, LIKE, AN OLD
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GARAGE, AND IT WAS CALLED
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REKO MUSE, AND IT WAS, LIKE, A
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FEMINIST ART SPACE THAT ME AND
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MY FRIENDS STARTED.
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I THINK WE WERE COMING INTO A
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REALLY HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF
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AWARENESS, IN TERMS OF FEMINISM
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AND SEXIST REPRESENTATION OF
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WOMEN.
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A REALLY VERY CLEAR MEMORY I
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HAVE OF KATHLEEN SHOWING ME A
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COPY OF A COPY OF AN ARTICLE
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FROM TIME MAGAZINE . "IS
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FEMINISM DEAD?"
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WE BOTH GOT REALLY EMOTIONAL,
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LIKE IT COULDN'T BE DEAD BECAUSE
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WE WERE LIVING IT.
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WE WERE DOING IT AND THINKING IT
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AND FEELING IT.
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YOU KNOW, HOW COULD IT BE DEAD?
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I WAS WORKING ON A PROJECT,
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FASHION SHOW, WHERE I MADE ALL
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THE CLOTHES FOR A FASHION SHOW,
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AND I SILK-SCREENED ALL THESE
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FABRICS AND STUFF, USING
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PHOTOGRAPHY.
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AND I WAS WORKING LATE AT NIGHT
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IN THE LAB, AND WHILE I WAS AT
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WORK, MY BEST FRIEND, SHE WAS
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ASSAULTED AT OUR HOUSE.
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SHE WENT IN HER ROOM AND FELL
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ASLEEP, AND SHE WOKE UP, AND HE
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WAS STANDING IN HER DOORWAY.
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HE GRABBED HER BY THE NECK, AND
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HE STARTED DRAGGING HER UP THE
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STAIRS.
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AND HE WAS SAYING SHIT LIKE,
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"I'M GONNA RAPE YOU, THEN I'M
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GONNA KILL YOU. "
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AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY A MUSIC
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MAJOR.
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IT WAS THE FIRST TIME SHE WAS
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WRITING HER OWN SYMPHONY.
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AND SHE TOLD ME THAT WHEN SHE
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WAS ON THE STAIRS, SHE THOUGHT,
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"I'M GONNA FINISH MY FUCKING
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SYMPHONY," AND SHE JUST FLIPPED
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OUT AND JUST, LIKE, PUNCHED HIM
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AND GOT LOOSE AND GOT AWAY.
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AND I CAME HOME, AND SHE WAS,
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LIKE, ALL BEAT UP.
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I WAS LIKE, "I HAVE TO MAKE SURE
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THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. "
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I MADE A DRESS THAT SAID, "AS HE
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DRUG HER UPSTAIRS BY HER NECK. "
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I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO FINISH,
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BUT SHE WAS LIKE, "YOU HAVE TO
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FINISH IT. "
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SO, I ENDED UP MAKING . THAT
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PROJECT WAS JUST ABOUT ME BEING
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ABLE TO FINISH SOMETHING.
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AND THEN I REALIZED IN THE
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MIDDLE OF IT, IT WASN'T JUST
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ABOUT THAT.
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IT WAS, I HAD TO TAKE THIS THING
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THAT HAD HAPPENED TO MY
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FRIEND . IT HAD AFFECTED ME .
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AND PUT IT INTO MY WORK.
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I COULDN'T KEEP IT OUT.
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LIKE, IT WAS JUST TOTALLY
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IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO KEEP IT
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OUT.
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[ CROWD CHEERS ]
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I MEAN, I REMEMBER THE FIRST
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TIME I SAW HER, IT WAS LIKE,
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"WHO IS THIS PERSON THAT SHE
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JUST HAS, LIKE, THIS COMMANDING
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PRESENCE?"
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SHE'S JUST LIKE, "YES, I'M DOING
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A FASHION SHOW IN THE LIBRARY
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BUILDING. "
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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
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IT WAS LIKE, "WE'RE ONLY 18,"
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LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
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[ Laughing ] WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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KATHLEEN AND I, WE WERE BOTH
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GOING TO
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EVERGREEN STATE COLLEGE.
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OUR FRIENDS HAD THIS IDEA
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THAT WAS, LIKE, CALLED "THE
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REVOLUTION GIRL STYLE NOW. "
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THAT WAS SORT OF LIKE OUR IDEA.
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LIKE, "LET'S GET ALL THESE GIRLS
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SOMEHOW TO PLAY INSTRUMENTS. "
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I'D READ JIGSAW, TOBI'S
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FANZINE.
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AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE ONLY
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GIRLS I KNEW AROUND WHO WAS
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TALKING ABOUT FEMINISM AND
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PUNK ROCK KIND OF IN THE SAME
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SENTENCE.
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TOBI WAS LIKE, "KATHI, DO YOU
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KNOW HOW TO PLAY GUITAR OR
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SOMETHING?"
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I WAS LIKE, "NO. "
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"DO YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY BASS?"
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"NO. "
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SHE'S LIKE, "DO YOU WANT TO
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START A BAND?"
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[ LAUGHS ]
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I WAS LIKE, "OKAY. "
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TOBI WAS LIKE, "I THINK WE
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SHOULD ASK THIS GIRL KATHLEEN TO
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BE THE SINGER. "
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I WAS LIKE, "YEAH, WE SHOULD,"
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'CAUSE SHE'S PERFECT TO BE A
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SINGER.
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YOU COULDN'T GET A BETTER
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SINGER.
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YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER
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FRONT PERSON.
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AND WE ALL GOT TOGETHER AND
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STARTED PLAYING AT TOBI'S
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PARENTS' HOUSE.
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IT WAS JUST THE THREE OF US FOR,
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LIKE, MONTHS AND MONTHS.
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WE WANTED A GIRL GUITAR PLAYER,
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BUT WE JUST COULDN'T DO IT.
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WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE COME AND
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PLAY WITH US.
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BUT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK.
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AND THEN TOBI WAS KIND OF LIKE,
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"I THINK WE SHOULD ASK MY FRIEND
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BILL. "
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AND I'M LIKE, "OH, I GUESS WE
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CAN TRY IT. "
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AND THEN THAT WAS IT.
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WE'RE BIKINI KILL.
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WE'RE BIKINI KILL, AND WE
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WANT REVOLUTION.
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GIRL STYLE NOW!
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[ CROWD CHEERS ]
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HEY, GIRLFRIEND, I GOT A
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PROPOSITION.
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GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
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♪ DARE YA TO DO
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WHAT YOU WANT ♪
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♪ DARE YA TO BE WHO YOU WILL
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♪ DARE YA TO CRY
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RIGHT OUT LOUD ♪
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♪ YOU GET SO EMOTIONAL, BABY
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♪ DOUBLE DARE YA
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♪ DOUBLE DARE YA
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♪ DOUBLE DARE YA
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WHAT EVERYBODY SAID ABOUT US
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WAS THAT WE COULDN'T PLAY OUR
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INSTRUMENTS, AND WE SAID, "AND?"
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WE WERE A YOUNG BAND GETTING A
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TON OF ATTENTION IN A SCENE
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WHERE THERE WERE A TON OF BANDS,
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AND EVERYBODY WANTED ATTENTION.
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AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE IT AT THE
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TIME BECAUSE WE WEREN'T REALLY
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THAT CAREERIST.
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WE DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT.
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WE WEREN'T MAKING MONEY.
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WE KNEW WE WERE NEVER GONNA MAKE
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MONEY, AND IT WAS REALLY
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IMPORTANT THAT WE MADE OUR
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MUSIC.
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WE WERE ON A MISSION, AND WE
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WERE GONNA DO WHAT WE DID,
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WHETHER WE GOT ATTENTION OR NOT.
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WE WERE SPREADING THE MESSAGE ON
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THE ROAD AT OUR SHOWS, HANDING
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OUT FLIERS, TELLING PEOPLE WHAT
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WE WERE DOING.
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OUR FANZINES WERE ALL ABOUT
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FEMINISM AND POLITICAL ISSUES.
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WE JUST TRIED TO TAKE FEMINIST
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STUFF THAT WE READ IN BOOKS AND
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THEN FILTER IT THROUGH A
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PUNK ROCK LENS.
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JUST WAIT.
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ZOOM IN ON THAT.
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IN A HUNDRED YEARS, THIS
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FOOTAGE WILL BE WORTH QUITE A
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BIT OF MONEY . NOT.
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FANZINE BY ME, BY ME.
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3-D COVER.
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GONNA BE RED.
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IT'S GONNA BE RED.
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OOH!
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GIVING ME A FLIER AT A SHOW,
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HANDING IT TO ME AND SMILING AT
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ME, THAT'S AS MUCH OF THE WAY
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KATHLEEN COMMUNICATES AS WHEN
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SHE'S ON STAGE, SINGING REALLY
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POWERFUL LYRICS.
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IT WAS SO GREAT, YOU KNOW?
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SHE JUST PRESENTED ALL OF THAT,
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LIKE, "KAPOW!
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HERE I AM, AND I'M GONNA TALK
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LIKE THIS, AND I'M GONNA SOUND
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LIKE A VALLEY GIRL, AND WHAT I'M
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GONNA SAY IS ACTUALLY TOTALLY
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BRILLIANT, AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE
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ME SERIOUSLY. "
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I GOT A VALLEY GIRL ACCENT
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FROM "THE VALLEY GIRL HANDBOOK,"
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AND ME AND MY BEST FRIEND,
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ANGELA CHEEVER, WE LIVED IN
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MARYLAND, AND WE DESPERATELY
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WANTED TO BE THE KIND OF GIRLS
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WHO HAD CREDIT CARDS.
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I THINK WE THOUGHT IT MADE US
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SOUND LIKE WE WERE, LIKE, RICH.
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WE THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A POSH
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ACCENT.
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IT GOES TO SHOW THAT YOU CAN
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BE JUST, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
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KNOW, SOME VALLEY GIRL, AND YOU
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STILL CAN BE SMART AND HAVE
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FEMINIST IDEAS, AND YOU STILL
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SHOULD BE LISTENED TO.
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[ PUNK ROCK MUSIC PLAYS ]
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IT WAS AN EXCITING MOMENT FOR
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A LOT OF YOUNG WOMEN,
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ESPECIALLY.
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IT WAS SPEAKING TO WOMEN AND
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WANTING TO CONNECT WITH WOMEN.
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AND THAT I THINK IS WHY THE
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INTERVENTION OF BIKINI KILL WAS
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REALLY NECESSARY.
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IT WAS, LIKE, BASICALLY ME
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AND TOBI AND KATHI.
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WE'RE LIKE, "WE'RE GONNA TAKE
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OVER THE PUNK ROCK SCENE FOR
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FEMINISTS. "
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♪ YOU
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HOLD
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ME
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DOWN ♪
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♪ YOU
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HOLD
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ME
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DOWN LIKE A MAGNET ♪
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SHE WAS, LIKE, BY, FOR, AND
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ABOUT WOMEN . HER THING, THEIR
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THING.
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BUT THEY HAD BILLY.
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HE WAS A BOY.
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BUT HE WAS LIKE . ALL BOYS
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AROUND HER WERE KIND OF JUST .
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"WE KIND OF NEED YOU TO DO SOME
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SHIT.
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SO, WILL YOU JUST DO THE SHIT,
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'CAUSE WE ARE DOING THE TOP. "
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♪ I'VE GOT THE LOVE
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THAT'S STRONG AND NOT WEAK ♪
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♪ I'VE GOT THE LOVE
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THAT'S STRONG AND NOT WEAK ♪
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♪ I'VE GOT THE LOVE
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THAT'S STRONG AND NOT WEAK ♪
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♪ I'VE GOT THE LOVE
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THAT'S STRONG AND NOT WEAK ♪
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KATHLEEN WAS VERY CLEAR AND
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DIDN'T HOLD BACK.
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THIS IS FOR ALL THE FUCKERS.
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SHE WAS JUST SCREAMING AT THE
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TOP OF HER LUNGS.
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THERE WERE VEINS STICKING OUT OF
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HER NECK.
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♪ DON'T YOU NEED YOU
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TO SAY WE'RE GOOD ♪
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♪ DON'T NEED YOU
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TO SAY WE SUCK ♪
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♪ DON'T NEED YOUR PROTECTION
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♪ DON'T NEED YOUR DICK TO FUCK
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♪ WHAA
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IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I'D
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SEN A WOMAN ON STAGE COMPLETELY
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ANGRY, AGGRESSIVE, DOING STUFF
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THAT YOU KIND OF SEE GUYS DO,
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AND IT WAS AMAZING.
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SOMEBODY HAD TO BE
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BIKINI KILL.
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LIKE, IT HAD TO HAPPEN, OR ELSE
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00:16:14,841 --> 00:16:16,576
WE'D HAVE ALL STARVED TO DEATH
525
00:16:16,609 --> 00:16:17,810
CULTURALLY.
526
00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:20,046
IT HAD TO HAPPEN, AND THERE THEY
527
00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:21,047
WERE.
528
00:16:33,459 --> 00:16:35,194
GIRLS TO THE FRONT . THAT IS
529
00:16:35,228 --> 00:16:36,829
THE THING THAT NEVER HAPPENED
530
00:16:36,863 --> 00:16:37,530
BEFORE.
531
00:16:37,563 --> 00:16:38,798
MEN COULD BE IN THE ROOM, BUT
532
00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:40,132
MEN COULD NEVER DOMINATE THE
533
00:16:40,166 --> 00:16:40,833
ROOM.
534
00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:43,703
IT WAS A FLIP OF THE SCRIPT THAT
535
00:16:43,736 --> 00:16:44,770
BLEW PEOPLE'S MINDS.
536
00:16:50,309 --> 00:16:52,845
ALL OF THAT INCREDIBLY RICH
537
00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:55,548
STUFF THAT MADE PUNK WHAT IT WAS
538
00:16:55,581 --> 00:16:58,251
HAD JUST BEEN TAMPED DOWN BY THE
539
00:16:58,284 --> 00:17:00,319
BOY MOSH PIT, YOU KNOW?
540
00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,088
RIGHT WHEN BIKINI KILL
541
00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:03,856
STARTED, RIGHT WHEN GRUNGE WAS,
542
00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:05,791
LIKE, GOING OFF THE HOOK, RIGHT
543
00:17:05,825 --> 00:17:07,660
WHEN NIRVANA WAS EXPLODING, IT
544
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:08,828
WAS A WILD SCENE.
545
00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:10,863
AND IT WAS VERY PHYSICAL,
546
00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:13,299
VIOLENT, LIKE, ALL THE MOSHING,
547
00:17:13,332 --> 00:17:16,269
ALL THAT STUFF.
548
00:17:19,438 --> 00:17:20,873
THESE YOUNG WOMEN, WHO WANTED TO
549
00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:22,541
BE A PART OF THE SCENE, LIKE
550
00:17:22,575 --> 00:17:24,110
PHYSICALLY WANTED TO GO TO THE
551
00:17:24,143 --> 00:17:25,678
SHOWS, WANTED TO GET INTO THIS
552
00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:26,879
PUNK ROCK SCENE, WE PHYSICALLY
553
00:17:26,913 --> 00:17:28,714
WERE GETTING SHOVED.
554
00:17:40,192 --> 00:17:41,494
THE PROBLEM WITH OUR SHOWS A
555
00:17:41,527 --> 00:17:42,828
LOT OF TIMES, A LOT OF GUYS
556
00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:44,297
WOULD GET REALLY OUT OF CONTROL
557
00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:45,531
AND START, LIKE, BEATING
558
00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:46,232
EVERYBODY UP.
559
00:17:46,265 --> 00:17:47,867
THE MORE GIRLS UP FRONT, THE
560
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,235
BETTER, AND IF ANYBODY IS
561
00:17:49,268 --> 00:17:50,736
FUCKING WITH YOU AT THIS SHOW
562
00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,305
BECAUSE OF CERTAIN REASONS AND
563
00:17:52,338 --> 00:17:53,906
YOU NEED TO COME UP FRONT, COME
564
00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:55,441
UP FRONT AND SIT ON THE STAGE
565
00:17:55,474 --> 00:17:56,909
AND GET AWAY FROM THEM AND LET
566
00:17:56,943 --> 00:17:58,678
US KNOW, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T
567
00:17:58,711 --> 00:17:59,912
JUST BE ONE PERSON IN THE
568
00:17:59,946 --> 00:18:01,747
CROWD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DEAL
569
00:18:01,781 --> 00:18:03,883
WITH FUCKERS.
570
00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:06,852
EVERY SHOW WE PLAYED WAS LIKE
571
00:18:06,886 --> 00:18:07,553
A WAR.
572
00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:09,622
GUYS WOULD TRY TO BEAT US UP AND
573
00:18:09,655 --> 00:18:10,690
STUFF, YOU KNOW?
574
00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:11,924
IT WAS REALLY VIOLENT, AND WE
575
00:18:11,958 --> 00:18:13,292
JUST PLAYED THESE CRAZY PLACES,
576
00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:15,461
LIKE BOWLING ALLEYS, AND THEY'D
577
00:18:15,494 --> 00:18:17,596
CRAM, LIKE, 600 PEOPLE IN THERE
578
00:18:17,630 --> 00:18:18,664
AND STUFF.
579
00:18:18,698 --> 00:18:19,465
YOU KNOW, NO SECURITY.
580
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,475
WE WANTED GIRLS TO STAND AT
581
00:18:29,508 --> 00:18:30,743
THE FRONT OF OUR SHOWS A LOT OF
582
00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:32,178
TIMES JUST BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO
583
00:18:32,211 --> 00:18:33,646
BE PROTECTED, AND I FELT LIKE IF
584
00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:34,914
THERE WAS A ROW OF GIRLS IN
585
00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:37,917
FRONT OF THEM, I WOULD BE SAFE.
586
00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:45,891
THERE PHYSICALLY WAS NOT THE
587
00:18:45,925 --> 00:18:47,727
SPACE FOR YOUNG WOMEN TO BE SAFE
588
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,694
AT THESE SHOWS.
589
00:18:48,728 --> 00:18:50,363
AND THAT WAS A HUGE PART OF WHAT
590
00:18:50,396 --> 00:18:52,765
KATHLEEN DID, WAS TO SAY THAT'S
591
00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:54,300
UNACCEPTABLE.
592
00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:01,941
"FUCK YOU.
593
00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:03,509
YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE NOW.
594
00:19:03,542 --> 00:19:05,311
AND IF YOU DON'T FUCKING PICK UP
595
00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:06,879
THE GENTLE HINT, WE'RE GONNA
596
00:19:06,912 --> 00:19:08,414
FUCKING VERY CLEARLY DIRECT YOU
597
00:19:08,447 --> 00:19:09,849
AS TO WHAT TO DO. "
598
00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:14,754
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
599
00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:15,855
IT WAS SHOCKING.
600
00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,490
THEY JUST WEREN'T EXPECTING
601
00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:18,991
THOSE KIND OF ORDERS TO COME
602
00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:20,960
FROM THAT SIZE OF A PERSON, THAT
603
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,995
GENDER OF A PERSON, IN A FUCKING
604
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:24,196
DRESS.
605
00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,949
WHEN I STARTED WRITING THE
606
00:19:43,983 --> 00:19:45,718
BOOK, THE MORE THAT I
607
00:19:45,751 --> 00:19:48,287
RESEARCHED, THE MORE RESPECT I
608
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,289
GOT FOR KIND OF WHAT A GOOD
609
00:19:50,322 --> 00:19:52,658
THINKER KATHLEEN IS AND HOW GOOD
610
00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:54,927
SHE WAS AT, LIKE, CRYSTALLIZING
611
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,029
A WIDELY HELD FEELING INTO A
612
00:19:57,063 --> 00:19:59,298
REALLY IRRESISTIBLE ARTISTIC
613
00:19:59,331 --> 00:20:00,266
FORMAT.
614
00:20:06,739 --> 00:20:08,574
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
615
00:20:08,607 --> 00:20:10,776
SHE WOULD INSTRUCT PEOPLE.
616
00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:13,012
"HERE'S A LITTLE SNIPPET FROM
617
00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:14,280
OUR FANZINE.
618
00:20:14,313 --> 00:20:16,315
MAYBE IF YOU COULD MOVE TO THE
619
00:20:16,348 --> 00:20:17,016
BACK. "
620
00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:19,351
LIKE, IT WAS THIS VERY . IT WAS
621
00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:21,053
KIND OF AN EMPOWERING AND
622
00:20:21,087 --> 00:20:23,456
SURREAL EXPERIENCE, 'CAUSE YOU
623
00:20:23,489 --> 00:20:25,558
WEREN'T REALLY USED TO BEING
624
00:20:25,591 --> 00:20:29,695
TALKED TO FROM THE STAGE.
625
00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,831
HI.
626
00:20:35,501 --> 00:20:37,369
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
627
00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:45,678
IT WAS LIKE, "OH, MUSIC IS
628
00:20:45,711 --> 00:20:46,779
SUPPOSED TO BE ESCAPIST," AND IT
629
00:20:46,812 --> 00:20:48,080
WASN'T.
630
00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:49,648
IT WAS GROUNDING IT.
631
00:20:49,682 --> 00:20:51,817
IT WAS MAKING MUSIC A VOICE FOR
632
00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:54,086
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HADN'T BEEN
633
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,555
HEARD BEFORE.
634
00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,858
I REMEMBER THE SONG
635
00:20:58,891 --> 00:20:59,992
"FEELS BLIND. "
636
00:21:00,025 --> 00:21:02,361
"ALL THE DOVES THAT PASS THROUGH
637
00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:04,330
MY EYES HAVE A STICKINESS TO
638
00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:05,331
THEIR WINGS.
639
00:21:05,364 --> 00:21:06,465
HOW DOES IT FEEL?
640
00:21:06,499 --> 00:21:07,066
FEELS BLIND.
641
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:08,100
WHAT HAVE YOU TAUGHT ME?
642
00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:09,335
THIS WORLD HAS TAUGHT ME
643
00:21:09,368 --> 00:21:10,336
NOTHING. "
644
00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:11,871
I MEAN, LIKE, I'M STILL, LIKE,
645
00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:13,339
GETTING SHIVERS WHEN I THINK
646
00:21:13,372 --> 00:21:14,340
ABOUT THOSE WORDS.
647
00:21:14,373 --> 00:21:15,641
♪ ALL THE DOVES
648
00:21:15,674 --> 00:21:19,345
THAT FLY PAST MY EYES
649
00:21:19,378 --> 00:21:21,380
HAVE A STICKINESS
650
00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:23,549
TO THEIR WINGS ♪
651
00:21:23,582 --> 00:21:26,519
♪ IN THE DOORWAY OF MY DEMISE
652
00:21:26,552 --> 00:21:28,087
I STAND,
653
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,122
ENCASED IN THE WHISPER
654
00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:32,358
YOU TAUGHT ME ♪
655
00:21:32,391 --> 00:21:33,359
♪ HOW DOES IT FEEL?
656
00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:36,128
♪ IT FEELS BLIND
657
00:21:36,162 --> 00:21:37,396
♪ HOW DOES IT FEEL?
658
00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:40,499
♪ WELL, IT FEELS FUCKING BLIND
659
00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:42,635
THE WAY THAT KATHLEEN
660
00:21:42,668 --> 00:21:44,904
DELIVERED THAT LINE WAS SO
661
00:21:44,937 --> 00:21:45,604
ANGRY.
662
00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:48,107
IT WAS SO OUTSIDE THE REALM OF
663
00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:51,010
HOW A YOUNG WOMAN IS SUPPOSED TO
664
00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:51,510
ACT.
665
00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:53,145
IT WAS REALLY RAW.
666
00:21:53,179 --> 00:21:55,948
♪ I EAT YOUR FUCKING HATE
667
00:21:55,981 --> 00:21:57,149
UP LIKE LOVE ♪
668
00:21:57,183 --> 00:21:59,919
STORIES OF ABUSE, EMOTIONAL
669
00:21:59,952 --> 00:22:02,555
VIOLENCE, SEXISM THAT WERE JUST
670
00:22:02,588 --> 00:22:04,123
BUBBLING AROUND.
671
00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:06,559
THEY BROUGHT THAT OUT IN THE
672
00:22:06,592 --> 00:22:07,259
OPEN.
673
00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:08,661
SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS
674
00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:09,361
STUFF.
675
00:22:09,395 --> 00:22:10,462
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OBJECTIFYING
676
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:10,996
WOMEN.
677
00:22:11,030 --> 00:22:11,931
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
678
00:22:11,964 --> 00:22:13,399
WHAT DOES THAT DO TO MY BODY?
679
00:22:13,432 --> 00:22:15,000
YOU'RE CELEBRATING A CERTAIN
680
00:22:15,034 --> 00:22:16,035
KIND OF WOMAN.
681
00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:18,037
WHAT DOES THAT DO IF I DON'T FIT
682
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:20,172
INTO THAT MOLD?
683
00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,174
YOU KNOW, BREAKING DOWN THE
684
00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,176
RULES OF WHAT A GIRL HAS TO BE.
685
00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:26,011
OR NOT, YOU KNOW?
686
00:22:26,045 --> 00:22:28,614
I MEAN, EVEN SHE HAS IT IN THE
687
00:22:28,647 --> 00:22:31,183
SONGS, YOU KNOW, THE DIRTY NAILS
688
00:22:31,217 --> 00:22:33,652
AND NOT BEING THE PERFECT,
689
00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,454
BIG-TITTED GIRL.
690
00:22:35,487 --> 00:22:37,156
I MEAN, I REMEMBER THINKING
691
00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:39,458
THAT EACH PERSON IN THE BAND WAS
692
00:22:39,491 --> 00:22:41,093
INCREDIBLY POWERFUL AND
693
00:22:41,126 --> 00:22:42,595
INTERESTING TO WATCH.
694
00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:44,964
AND WE WERE DOING SOME DATES
695
00:22:44,997 --> 00:22:46,198
WITH NIRVANA.
696
00:22:46,232 --> 00:22:48,801
I THINK TOBI WAS STILL INVOLVED
697
00:22:48,834 --> 00:22:49,868
WITH KURT.
698
00:22:49,902 --> 00:22:51,670
KURT HAS A HISTORY WITH
699
00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:52,671
BIKINI KILL.
700
00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:54,773
HE'S VERY CONNECTED TO KATHLEEN
701
00:22:54,807 --> 00:22:56,208
AND WHAT SHE WAS DOING.
702
00:22:56,242 --> 00:22:57,910
ANY GOOD BIOGRAPHY OF
703
00:22:57,943 --> 00:22:59,845
KURT COBAIN NOW ACKNOWLEDGES
704
00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:01,647
THAT HE DIDN'T COME OUT OF
705
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,982
HESHER ROCK IN THE
706
00:23:03,015 --> 00:23:04,483
PACIFIC NORTHWEST.
707
00:23:04,516 --> 00:23:06,218
HE CAME OUT OF FEMINIST
708
00:23:06,252 --> 00:23:08,153
ART-PUNK, YOU KNOW?
709
00:23:08,187 --> 00:23:10,723
AND HE SAID IT HIMSELF AT THAT
710
00:23:10,756 --> 00:23:12,057
TIME.
711
00:23:12,091 --> 00:23:13,792
KURT WAS A VERY CHARISMATIC
712
00:23:13,826 --> 00:23:14,493
PERSON.
713
00:23:14,526 --> 00:23:16,128
I KIND OF STARTED HANGING OUT
714
00:23:16,161 --> 00:23:17,563
WITH HIM BECAUSE I HAD A
715
00:23:17,596 --> 00:23:18,931
BOYFRIEND WHO BECAME A
716
00:23:18,964 --> 00:23:20,733
CRACKHEAD, AND THEN HE STARTED,
717
00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:21,867
LIKE, STALKING ME.
718
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:23,235
AND I WAS KNOWN AS A FEMINIST,
719
00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:24,637
AND I FELT LIKE I COULDN'T ASK
720
00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:26,005
FOR HELP FROM PEOPLE BECAUSE I
721
00:23:26,038 --> 00:23:27,239
THOUGHT THAT THEY'D THINK,
722
00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:28,674
"SHE'S MAKING TOO BIG OF A DEAL
723
00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:29,842
OUT OF IT BECAUSE SHE'S A
724
00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:30,542
FEMINIST. "
725
00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:33,145
AND THE ONLY PERSON WHO BELIEVED
726
00:23:33,178 --> 00:23:35,114
ME WAS MY FRIEND KURT.
727
00:23:35,147 --> 00:23:37,216
I WAS HIS FRIEND FOR LIFE AT
728
00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:38,517
THAT MOMENT.
729
00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:40,152
HE STUCK UP FOR ME.
730
00:23:40,185 --> 00:23:42,488
HE WAS, LIKE, THE ONLY PERSON
731
00:23:42,521 --> 00:23:43,989
THAT STUCK UP FOR ME.
732
00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:46,725
I WROTE, "KURT SMELLS LIKE TEEN
733
00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:49,061
SPIRIT" ON THE WALL OF HIS
734
00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:51,864
APARTMENT AFTER WE SPRAY-PAINTED
735
00:23:51,897 --> 00:23:54,033
IT ON THE SIDE OF A FAKE
736
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:55,634
ABORTION CLINIC.
737
00:23:55,668 --> 00:23:57,269
KURT SPRAY-PAINTED, "GOD IS
738
00:23:57,303 --> 00:23:57,970
GAY. "
739
00:23:58,003 --> 00:24:02,241
WE WERE SO WASTED, SO WASTED,
740
00:24:02,274 --> 00:24:04,076
SUPER FUCKING WASTED.
741
00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:06,278
AND THE NEXT DAY, I SWORE OFF
742
00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:08,580
ALCOHOL, AND I DIDN'T DRINK FOR
743
00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:11,583
SIX YEARS.
744
00:24:30,569 --> 00:24:31,203
OLYMPIA'S A REALLY GREAT SCENE
745
00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:33,038
IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY.
746
00:24:33,072 --> 00:24:35,107
BUT IN TERMS OF POLITICS, IT WAS
747
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:36,775
KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR US.
748
00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:38,110
WE THOUGHT IT'D BE COOL IF WE
749
00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:39,311
MOVED TO D. C. , WHERE THERE
750
00:24:39,345 --> 00:24:40,579
ALREADY WAS A PRECEDENT FOR
751
00:24:40,612 --> 00:24:41,814
BANDS LIKE US . NOT REALLY
752
00:24:41,847 --> 00:24:43,115
FEMINIST BANDS, BUT AT LEAST
753
00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:44,283
BANDS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN
754
00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:45,851
WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE WORLD.
755
00:24:45,884 --> 00:24:47,753
SO, WE MOVED WITH OUR FRIENDS
756
00:24:47,786 --> 00:24:49,321
FROM THE BAND BRATMOBILE, AND
757
00:24:49,355 --> 00:24:50,856
THAT'S WHERE THE WHOLE
758
00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:52,725
RIOT GRRRL THING REALLY STARTED.
759
00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:54,326
THERE WERE ALL THESE THINGS
760
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,562
IN THE LATE '80s AND EARLY '90s,
761
00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:58,297
LIKE ANITA HILL/CLARENCE THOMAS,
762
00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:00,099
THE WILLIAM KENNEDY SMITH RAPE
763
00:25:00,132 --> 00:25:00,799
TRIAL.
764
00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:02,301
THERE WERE THINGS THAT HAPPENED
765
00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,336
ALL IN A REALLY QUICK SUCCESSION
766
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:06,205
THAT OUR GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE,
767
00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:08,107
WHO WERE, LIKE, 18 AND 19 IN THE
768
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:09,875
LATE '80s, EXPERIENCED IT, AND
769
00:25:09,908 --> 00:25:11,610
WE KNEW THAT THEY WERE WRONG.
770
00:25:11,643 --> 00:25:13,278
THERE WAS UTTER PANDEMONIUM
771
00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:15,013
OUTSIDE THE UNIVERSITY BUILDING,
772
00:25:15,047 --> 00:25:16,648
AS AMBULANCES CARTED AWAY THE
773
00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:17,282
INJURED.
774
00:25:17,316 --> 00:25:19,585
POLICE HAVE NOW CONFIRMED
775
00:25:19,618 --> 00:25:22,187
14 STUDENTS DEAD, ALL WOMEN.
776
00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:23,989
ANOTHER DOZEN PEOPLE WERE HURT,
777
00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:25,591
CAUGHT IN A RAMPAGE THAT
778
00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:27,159
WITNESSES CALLED A HUMAN HUNT,
779
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,994
WITH THE GUNMAN YELLING, "I WANT
780
00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:30,029
WOMEN. "
781
00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:31,330
OUR FRIEND JEN SMITH SAID,
782
00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:32,364
"YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED?
783
00:25:32,398 --> 00:25:33,365
WE NEED A GIRL RIOT. "
784
00:25:33,399 --> 00:25:34,967
TOBI HAD TALKED ABOUT
785
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,668
"ANGRY GIRL" WITH MANY R's.
786
00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:38,203
THE COMBINATION OF WHAT
787
00:25:38,237 --> 00:25:40,072
JEN SMITH AND TOBI SAID BECAME
788
00:25:40,105 --> 00:25:41,340
"RIOT GRRRL. "
789
00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:43,776
SO, WE MADE A 'ZINE CALLED
790
00:25:43,809 --> 00:25:45,043
RIOT GRRRL.
791
00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:46,612
THE ORIGINAL RIOT GRRRL
792
00:25:46,645 --> 00:25:47,813
ZINE, IT WAS MOSTLY
793
00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:49,381
KATHLEEN HANNA, ALLISON WOLFE,
794
00:25:49,415 --> 00:25:51,183
AND MOLLY NEWMAN FROM
795
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,085
BRATMOBILE, JEN SMITH AND
796
00:25:53,118 --> 00:25:54,987
TOBI VAIL, THE DRUMMER OF
797
00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:55,687
BIKINI KILL.
798
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:57,356
ALLISON AND I WENT TO A PUNK
799
00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,158
SHOW WITH A CLIPBOARD, AND WE
800
00:25:59,191 --> 00:26:00,859
JUST WALKED UP TO GIRLS, AND WE
801
00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:02,394
WERE LIKE, "WE WANT TO HAVE AN
802
00:26:02,428 --> 00:26:04,229
ALL-GIRL MEETING WHERE WE JUST
803
00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,764
TALK MAYBE ABOUT STARTING A
804
00:26:05,798 --> 00:26:07,299
MAGAZINE OR DOING PROJECTS,
805
00:26:07,332 --> 00:26:08,834
PLAYING PUNK MUSIC AND STARTING
806
00:26:08,867 --> 00:26:10,169
A SCENE AND KIND OF TAKING
807
00:26:10,202 --> 00:26:10,736
OVER. "
808
00:26:10,769 --> 00:26:12,204
WE GOT TO DO THE FIRST
809
00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:13,705
RIOT GRRRL MEETING AT
810
00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:16,375
POSITIVE FORCE HOUSE.
811
00:26:19,445 --> 00:26:20,879
OUR FIRST MEETING WAS, LIKE, IT
812
00:26:20,913 --> 00:26:22,314
WAS PRETTY INTENSE, AND, AS IT
813
00:26:22,347 --> 00:26:23,782
TURNED OUT, THEY JUST WANTED TO
814
00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:25,184
HANG OUT AND TALK WITHOUT MEN
815
00:26:25,217 --> 00:26:25,884
BEING THERE.
816
00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,386
THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SEXUAL
817
00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:28,087
ABUSE.
818
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,354
THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT COMING
819
00:26:29,388 --> 00:26:30,689
OUT AND GET INFORMATION AND
820
00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:31,990
SHARE INFORMATION WITH EACH
821
00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:32,691
OTHER.
822
00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:34,092
I ACTUALLY WROTE A RIOT GRRRL
823
00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:35,694
MANIFESTO IN THE BIKINI KILL
824
00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:36,995
FANZINE CALLED "GRRRL POWER. "
825
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:38,964
AND I WROTE WHAT I DREAMED
826
00:26:38,997 --> 00:26:40,732
RIOT GRRRL COULD BE AND
827
00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:43,068
ENCOURAGED OTHER GIRLS AND WOMEN
828
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,670
TO WRITE THEIR MANIFESTOS OF
829
00:26:44,703 --> 00:26:46,004
WHAT THEY WANTED RIOT GRRRL TO
830
00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:46,672
BE.
831
00:26:46,705 --> 00:26:48,040
THE IDEA WAS THAT ANY WOMAN
832
00:26:48,073 --> 00:26:49,842
ANYWHERE COULD TAKE THAT NAME
833
00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:51,677
AND USE IT AND CREATE ANYTHING
834
00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:52,377
SHE WANTED.
835
00:26:52,411 --> 00:26:53,846
WE DIDN'T BRAND IT OR COPYRIGHT
836
00:26:53,879 --> 00:26:55,147
IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
837
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:56,448
IT BELONGED TO EVERYBODY.
838
00:26:56,482 --> 00:26:57,950
ALL OF US FELT LIKE, "LOOK.
839
00:26:57,983 --> 00:26:59,051
HERE ARE SOME IDEAS.
840
00:26:59,084 --> 00:27:00,352
TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT. "
841
00:27:00,385 --> 00:27:01,453
OTHER GIRLS STARTED
842
00:27:01,487 --> 00:27:02,855
RIOT GRRRLS ALL AROUND THE
843
00:27:02,888 --> 00:27:03,555
COUNTRY.
844
00:27:03,589 --> 00:27:06,825
♪ ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS
845
00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:08,193
FEMINISM HAD BEEN KIND OF
846
00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:09,728
SCARED OF POP-CULTURE MUSIC.
847
00:27:09,761 --> 00:27:11,063
IT WAS REALLY GOOD AT PROTESTING
848
00:27:11,096 --> 00:27:12,464
IT AND NOT GOOD AT MAKING IT.
849
00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:13,999
AND SO RIOT GRRRL WAS MAKING IT.
850
00:27:14,032 --> 00:27:15,701
IT WAS MAKING 'ZINES, AND IT WAS
851
00:27:15,734 --> 00:27:16,935
MAKING ROCK BANDS, AND IT WAS
852
00:27:16,969 --> 00:27:17,903
SPEAKING TO PEOPLE.
853
00:27:17,936 --> 00:27:19,104
AND KATHLEEN WAS A MAJOR
854
00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:22,908
MOTIVATOR OF THAT.
855
00:27:22,941 --> 00:27:24,910
FIRST WAVE OF FEMINISM BEGAN IN
856
00:27:24,943 --> 00:27:26,712
1848, THE SENECA FALLS
857
00:27:26,745 --> 00:27:27,446
CONFERENCE.
858
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,481
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WOMEN
859
00:27:29,515 --> 00:27:30,983
ORGANIZED ON BEHALF OF
860
00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:31,850
THEMSELVES.
861
00:27:31,884 --> 00:27:32,818
THEY ALL HAPPENED TO BE
862
00:27:32,851 --> 00:27:33,485
ABOLITIONISTS.
863
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:34,953
THEY WERE OPPOSING SLAVERY.
864
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:36,421
IT WAS A MOVEMENT FOR HUMAN
865
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:38,056
RIGHTS, BUT THEY WEREN'T EQUAL
866
00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:39,424
MEMBERS OF THIS MOVEMENT.
867
00:27:39,458 --> 00:27:40,459
SO, THEY TURNED THEIR RAISED
868
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:41,793
CONSCIOUSNESS ON THEMSELVES AND
869
00:27:41,827 --> 00:27:42,895
THEIR ORGANIZING SKILLS ON
870
00:27:42,928 --> 00:27:44,129
THEMSELVES AND SAID, "WE NEED
871
00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:45,464
OUR OWN INDEPENDENT MOVEMENT FOR
872
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:46,098
OUR OWN RIGHTS. "
873
00:27:46,131 --> 00:27:47,299
SO, THAT FIRST WAVE OF THE
874
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:48,734
WOMEN'S MOVEMENT FOCUSED ITSELF
875
00:27:48,767 --> 00:27:49,801
ON CITIZENSHIP, AND THAT'S MOST
876
00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:53,172
SYMBOLIZED BY THE VOTE.
877
00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:54,506
THERE WAS A SWELL OF ACTIVISM
878
00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:55,974
AGAIN, COMING OUT OF THE
879
00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:57,743
CIVIL RIGHTS' MOVEMENT AND THE
880
00:27:57,776 --> 00:27:58,744
PEACE MOVEMENT AND THE
881
00:27:58,777 --> 00:27:59,945
FREE-SPEECH MOVEMENT.
882
00:27:59,978 --> 00:28:01,513
SO, THE WOMEN WHO WERE PART OF
883
00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:02,881
THESE MOVEMENTS EVENTUALLY
884
00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:03,949
TURNED THEIR RAISED
885
00:28:03,982 --> 00:28:05,517
CONSCIOUSNESS ON THEMSELVES AND
886
00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:07,052
SAID, "WE NEED TO HAVE OUR OWN
887
00:28:07,085 --> 00:28:08,520
INDEPENDENT MOVEMENT FOR OUR
888
00:28:08,554 --> 00:28:09,922
RIGHTS, FOR EQUALITY, TO BE
889
00:28:09,955 --> 00:28:11,490
TREATED AS FULL HUMAN BEINGS. "
890
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:12,991
THE BIGGEST GOAL OF THE SECOND
891
00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:13,959
WAVE WAS EQUALITY.
892
00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:15,127
THAT WAS THE SURGE OF ACTIVISM
893
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,130
THAT WAS THE SECOND WAVE.
894
00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:24,536
REBECCA WALKER'S ARTICLE
895
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:26,505
"BECOMING A THIRD WAVE" . SO,
896
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,173
SHE USED THAT TERM, AND THAT'S
897
00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:29,841
BECAUSE SHE, HER MOTHER WAS
898
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:31,510
ALICE WALKER, AND SHE WAS A
899
00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:33,278
DAUGHTER OF THE SECOND WAVE, AND
900
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:34,980
SHE WAS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO
901
00:28:35,013 --> 00:28:36,548
SAY, "WE'RE DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE
902
00:28:36,582 --> 00:28:37,983
PART OF THIS HISTORY. "
903
00:28:38,016 --> 00:28:40,519
THIRD WAVE WAS FOUNDED IN
904
00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:43,288
RESPONSE TO A FEELING ON COLLEGE
905
00:28:43,322 --> 00:28:45,891
CAMPUSES IN 1992 THAT FEMINISM
906
00:28:45,924 --> 00:28:47,926
WAS IN SOME WAYS DEAD,
907
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,395
IRRELEVANT, THAT WOMEN OF MY
908
00:28:50,429 --> 00:28:52,998
GENERATION WERE APATHETIC, NOT
909
00:28:53,031 --> 00:28:55,534
DESIROUS OF WORKING ON BEHALF
910
00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:59,538
OF WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT.
911
00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:01,206
YOU CAN'T OVERSTATE HER
912
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,808
IMPORTANCE TO THIRD-WAVE
913
00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:03,508
FEMINISM.
914
00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:04,977
SHE WAS INCREDIBLY INSPIRING.
915
00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:06,578
SHE WAS KIND OF THE FIRST PERSON
916
00:29:06,612 --> 00:29:08,513
TO COME FORTH AND SAY, "THIS IS
917
00:29:08,547 --> 00:29:10,082
WHAT FEMINISM IS GONNA LOOK
918
00:29:10,115 --> 00:29:11,850
LIKE, AND WE DON'T TAKE YOUR
919
00:29:11,883 --> 00:29:13,118
BULLSHIT, PATRIARCHS AND
920
00:29:13,151 --> 00:29:13,819
RAPISTS. "
921
00:29:13,852 --> 00:29:15,287
AND IT WAS INCREDIBLY EXCITING.
922
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,888
♪ OH, BABY, I WANT YOU
923
00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:18,357
♪ YOU'RE SO FUCKING BIG
924
00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:20,192
♪ YOU'RE SO BIG AND HARD
925
00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:22,160
♪ YOU'VE GOT SUCH A BIG COCK
926
00:29:22,194 --> 00:29:23,929
♪ PUSH IT IN DEEPER NOW
927
00:29:23,962 --> 00:29:25,564
♪ OH, DEEPER, HARDER
928
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:27,466
♪ I'M ALMOST COMING
929
00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:29,501
I MEAN, MORE THAN ANY OTHER
930
00:29:29,534 --> 00:29:31,536
PERSON I'VE EVER MET, KATHLEEN
931
00:29:31,570 --> 00:29:32,571
WAS A LEADER.
932
00:29:32,604 --> 00:29:36,441
♪ SUGAR
933
00:29:36,475 --> 00:29:39,244
♪ I CAN ALMOST REACH MINE NOW
934
00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:40,279
♪ NOW, NOW
935
00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:42,881
♪ SUGAR
936
00:29:42,914 --> 00:29:44,883
I MEAN, A LOT OF WHAT WE SAW
937
00:29:44,916 --> 00:29:46,518
RIOT GRRRLS DOING WAS, LIKE,
938
00:29:46,551 --> 00:29:48,587
GIRLS GOING BACK TO, LIKE, THEIR
939
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,122
GIRLHOOD AND RECLAIMING
940
00:29:50,155 --> 00:29:51,456
GIRLHOOD THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN
941
00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:52,858
AWAY FROM THEM, THAT HAS BEEN
942
00:29:52,891 --> 00:29:54,159
DIRECTED DOWN SOME BULLSHIT
943
00:29:54,192 --> 00:29:55,594
PATH, WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, "I'M
944
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:57,062
ACTUALLY GONNA BE A LITTLE GIRL
945
00:29:57,095 --> 00:29:58,030
THAT HAS POWER NOW.
946
00:29:58,063 --> 00:29:59,865
I'M GONNA RELIVE THAT PART SO
947
00:29:59,898 --> 00:30:01,633
THAT I CAN THEN DIRECT MY WHOLE
948
00:30:01,667 --> 00:30:03,468
GROWING-UP EXPERIENCE FROM
949
00:30:03,502 --> 00:30:04,970
THERE, FROM POINT 'A. '"
950
00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:07,406
THE THIRD WAVE IS LIKE A HOT
951
00:30:07,439 --> 00:30:09,641
BUT ANGRY BISEXUAL GIRL WHO IS
952
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:12,244
WEARING A MINIDRESS WITH COMBAT
953
00:30:12,277 --> 00:30:12,944
BOOTS.
954
00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:15,514
THERE'S LIKE A LOT OF ATTEMPTING
955
00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:17,916
TO RECONCILE A LOT OF EXTREMES
956
00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:19,918
THAT ARE IN ALL OF US.
957
00:30:19,951 --> 00:30:21,953
YES, SHE TOTALLY USED HER
958
00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:22,954
SEXUALITY.
959
00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:23,655
I LOVE THAT.
960
00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:24,890
USE IT . WHATEVER WE GOT.
961
00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:26,224
YOU GONNA GIVE ME SOME SHIT?
962
00:30:26,258 --> 00:30:27,259
YOU GONNA DEFINE ME?
963
00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:28,593
YOU GONNA TELL ME WHAT I AM?
964
00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:32,898
OKAY, GREAT, I'M THAT.
965
00:30:32,931 --> 00:30:34,232
BEING A STRIPPER IS WHAT LET
966
00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:35,167
ME BE IN BIKINI KILL.
967
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,468
DO I WISH THAT THERE WAS A JOB
968
00:30:36,501 --> 00:30:37,636
THAT PAID ME THAT AMOUNT OF
969
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:38,670
MONEY AND THAT GAVE ME THAT
970
00:30:38,704 --> 00:30:40,172
FLEXIBILITY, WHERE I DIDN'T HAVE
971
00:30:40,205 --> 00:30:41,206
TO TAKE MY CLOTHES OFF?
972
00:30:41,239 --> 00:30:42,174
SURE, OF COURSE I DO.
973
00:30:42,207 --> 00:30:43,675
BUT IT DIDN'T EXIST, AND I
974
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,243
WANTED TO MAKE MUSIC.
975
00:30:45,277 --> 00:30:47,079
I WORKED AT McDONALD'S, AND I
976
00:30:47,112 --> 00:30:48,280
WAS A VEGETARIAN.
977
00:30:48,313 --> 00:30:50,215
AND I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS THE
978
00:30:50,248 --> 00:30:50,916
SAME THING.
979
00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:52,918
I WAS A FEMINIST, AND I WORKED
980
00:30:52,951 --> 00:30:53,685
AT THE STRIP BAR.
981
00:30:53,719 --> 00:30:57,889
♪ SUGAR
982
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,694
AND WE'RE BIKINI KILL.
983
00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:04,329
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
984
00:31:04,362 --> 00:31:05,497
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO.
985
00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:06,965
I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU.
986
00:31:06,998 --> 00:31:08,266
WE PLAYED AT THE CAPITOL WITH
987
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:08,967
FUGAZI.
988
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,268
IT WAS AROUND THE TIME OF THE
989
00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:11,937
ABORTION MARCH, AND SO, IT WAS
990
00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:14,506
LIKE ABORTION WITHOUT APOLOGY.
991
00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:21,079
A LOT OF THE D. C. MUSIC HAS THAT
992
00:31:21,113 --> 00:31:23,348
MONUMENTAL SOUND THAT MAYBE DOES
993
00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:25,617
COME FROM LIVING IN THE CAPITAL.
994
00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:27,385
IT'S LIKE THIS BIG FEELING THAT
995
00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:29,154
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHAT
996
00:31:29,187 --> 00:31:30,722
WE'RE DOING IS SUPER-IMPORTANT.
997
00:31:30,756 --> 00:31:32,591
WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE SEAT OF
998
00:31:32,624 --> 00:31:33,291
POWER.
999
00:31:33,325 --> 00:31:34,726
AND THEN THESE BANDS ARE MAKING
1000
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,528
THIS HUGE-SOUNDING MUSIC BUT
1001
00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:38,063
ABOUT STUFF THAT'S TOTALLY
1002
00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:39,431
DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE
1003
00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:40,398
POLITICIANS ARE DOING.
1004
00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:40,932
♪ YOU THINK
1005
00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:42,601
THAT I DON'T KNOW ♪
1006
00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:44,736
♪ I'M HERE TO TELL YOU I DO
1007
00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:46,138
♪ YOU THINK US SLUTS
1008
00:31:46,171 --> 00:31:47,973
DON'T KNOW ♪
1009
00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:49,141
♪ WE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU
1010
00:31:49,174 --> 00:31:51,576
NOW ♪
1011
00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:54,679
♪ JIGSAW, JIGSAW YOUTH
1012
00:31:54,713 --> 00:31:56,481
♪ I KNOW THERE'S NOT ONE WAY,
1013
00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:59,251
ONE LIGHT, ONE LAME TRUTH ♪
1014
00:31:59,284 --> 00:32:01,453
♪ WON'T FIT YOUR DEFINITIONS
1015
00:32:01,486 --> 00:32:04,022
♪ WON'T MEET YOUR LAME DEMANDS
1016
00:32:04,055 --> 00:32:06,458
♪ NOT INTO WIN-LOSE REALITY
1017
00:32:06,491 --> 00:32:11,997
♪ WON'T FIT INTO YOUR PLANS
1018
00:32:14,065 --> 00:32:18,270
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
1019
00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:20,138
A USA TODAY REPORTER CAME AND
1020
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:21,473
THEN WROTE THIS REALLY
1021
00:32:21,506 --> 00:32:23,241
CONDESCENDING THING ABOUT WHAT
1022
00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:25,043
WE WERE DOING AND FOCUSED ON
1023
00:32:25,076 --> 00:32:26,745
WHAT OUR CLOTHES LOOKED LIKE AND
1024
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:28,413
WHAT OUR BODIES LOOKED LIKE.
1025
00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:30,015
WE MUST ALL BE SEXUAL-ABUSE
1026
00:32:30,048 --> 00:32:31,783
SURVIVORS BECAUSE WE'RE SINGING
1027
00:32:31,817 --> 00:32:33,418
ABOUT RAPE, AND, THEREFORE,
1028
00:32:33,452 --> 00:32:35,120
NOBODY HAS ANY IMAGINATION OR
1029
00:32:35,153 --> 00:32:37,055
KNOWS ANYBODY WHO'S HAD THINGS
1030
00:32:37,088 --> 00:32:38,723
WHO'S HAD THINGS HAPPEN TO THEM.
1031
00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:40,492
SO, WE MUST ALL HAVE HAD THESE
1032
00:32:40,525 --> 00:32:41,593
TRAGIC HISTORIES.
1033
00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:43,795
IT WAS REALLY FRUSTRATING TO A
1034
00:32:43,829 --> 00:32:46,064
LOT OF US, ESPECIALLY THAT
1035
00:32:46,097 --> 00:32:48,099
ANOTHER WOMAN WOULD WRITE
1036
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:50,602
SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS SO
1037
00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:51,269
STUPID.
1038
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:52,804
SO, WE JUST DECIDED TO STOP
1039
00:32:52,838 --> 00:32:54,339
THINKING ABOUT IT AND TALKING
1040
00:32:54,372 --> 00:32:55,807
ABOUT IT AND JUST NOT ANSWERING
1041
00:32:55,841 --> 00:32:57,342
THE PHONE WHEN JOURNALISTS
1042
00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:58,009
CALLED.
1043
00:32:58,043 --> 00:32:59,344
AND THAT WAS WHAT EVERYBODY
1044
00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:01,379
CALLED A PRESS BLACKOUT.
1045
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:02,514
THEY'RE LIKE, "NO, ACTUALLY,
1046
00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:03,582
YOU'RE NOT GONNA FUCKING CO-OP
1047
00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:04,482
THIS FUCKING REVOLUTION.
1048
00:33:04,516 --> 00:33:05,116
FUCK YOU.
1049
00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:06,051
IT'S ACTUALLY NOT GONNA BE
1050
00:33:06,084 --> 00:33:07,586
TELEVISED.
1051
00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:08,286
THAT WAS GENIUS.
1052
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,256
IT WAS VERY SAVVY, AND IT WAS
1053
00:33:11,289 --> 00:33:13,825
SOMETHING THAT WAS THINKING MUCH
1054
00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:16,461
BIGGER THAN A LOT OF US DID.
1055
00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:17,829
PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH
1056
00:33:17,863 --> 00:33:20,098
RIOT GRRRL WERE RELUCTANT TO DO
1057
00:33:20,131 --> 00:33:21,633
INTERVIEWS WITH MAINSTREAM
1058
00:33:21,666 --> 00:33:23,635
PRESS OR ROLLING STONE OR PEOPLE
1059
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:25,503
WHO GOT INTERESTED IN AND GOT
1060
00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:27,072
WIND OF THE MOVEMENT.
1061
00:33:27,105 --> 00:33:28,707
IT'S HARD TO SEE YOURSELF
1062
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:30,709
WRITTEN ABOUT OR TALKED ABOUT IN
1063
00:33:30,742 --> 00:33:32,611
A THIRD-PERSON OR SOME REMOVED
1064
00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:33,278
CONTEXT.
1065
00:33:33,311 --> 00:33:34,813
IT'S ALWAYS JUST GONNA SEEM
1066
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:35,647
WRONG SOMEHOW.
1067
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,748
THE FACTS ARE WRONG.
1068
00:33:36,781 --> 00:33:37,749
SOMETHING'S WRONG.
1069
00:33:37,782 --> 00:33:38,316
IT'S ALWAYS WRONG.
1070
00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:40,085
IT WAS ALSO FOR HER OWN
1071
00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:41,286
SELF-PRESERVATION AND
1072
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:43,121
PROTECTION, 'CAUSE PEOPLE WERE
1073
00:33:43,154 --> 00:33:44,823
JUST TEARING HER APART PUBLICLY
1074
00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:46,858
AND REVEALING A LOT OF PERSONAL
1075
00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:48,827
THINGS ABOUT HER THAT SHE HADN'T
1076
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:50,128
CHOSEN TO REVEAL.
1077
00:33:50,161 --> 00:33:51,663
HOW THINGS BECOME JUST SO
1078
00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:53,598
DISTORTED AND TAKEN OUT OF THEIR
1079
00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:54,566
HANDS.
1080
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:58,169
[ DRUM PLAYING ]
1081
00:33:58,203 --> 00:33:59,371
THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN
1082
00:33:59,404 --> 00:34:01,740
THE WASHINGTON POST, AND IT
1083
00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:04,209
SAID THAT MY FATHER RAPED ME.
1084
00:34:04,242 --> 00:34:05,877
AND I NEVER SPOKE TO A REPORTER.
1085
00:34:05,911 --> 00:34:07,579
I'VE NEVER ASSERTED THAT.
1086
00:34:07,612 --> 00:34:09,180
AND I WILL SAY RIGHT NOW ON
1087
00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:10,882
CAMERA MY FATHER DID NOT RAPE
1088
00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:11,449
ME.
1089
00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:12,651
MY FATHER WAS SEXUALLY
1090
00:34:12,684 --> 00:34:13,618
INAPPROPRIATE.
1091
00:34:13,652 --> 00:34:15,787
HE WASN'T A GREAT FATHER.
1092
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:18,323
HE WAS PHYSICALLY AND VERBALLY
1093
00:34:18,356 --> 00:34:19,891
ABUSIVE AT TIMES.
1094
00:34:19,925 --> 00:34:22,427
BUT HE DID NOT PHYSICALLY RAPE
1095
00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:23,461
ME.
1096
00:34:23,495 --> 00:34:25,697
[ DRUM PLAYING ]
1097
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:27,432
I MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN
1098
00:34:27,465 --> 00:34:29,167
SEXUAL INAPPROPRIATENESS AND
1099
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,840
ABUSE IN MY MIND BECAUSE I KNOW
1100
00:34:35,874 --> 00:34:38,310
OTHER PEOPLE'S STORIES THAT ARE
1101
00:34:38,343 --> 00:34:40,679
SUPER-HORRIFIC, AND, LIKE, WAY
1102
00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:42,647
MORE HORRIFIC THAN MINE.
1103
00:34:42,681 --> 00:34:45,150
AND THAT JUST ISN'T MY STORY.
1104
00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:46,384
AND I WAS REALLY UPSET WHEN IT
1105
00:34:46,418 --> 00:34:47,085
SAID THAT.
1106
00:34:47,118 --> 00:34:48,353
AND IT TAUGHT ME A BIG LESSON
1107
00:34:48,386 --> 00:34:49,688
ABOUT HOW A LOT OF REPORTERS
1108
00:34:49,721 --> 00:34:50,922
DON'T FACT-CHECK ANYTHING.
1109
00:34:50,956 --> 00:34:52,624
INSTEAD OF BEING, LIKE, SITTING
1110
00:34:52,657 --> 00:34:54,326
AROUND, BEING UPSET ABOUT IT, I
1111
00:34:54,359 --> 00:34:56,194
THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT
1112
00:34:56,227 --> 00:34:57,562
THAT I KEPT MAKING MUSIC AND
1113
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:58,930
THAT I WENT ON TOUR AND THAT
1114
00:34:58,964 --> 00:35:00,832
OTHER GIRLS GOT TO HEAR WHAT WE
1115
00:35:00,865 --> 00:35:02,400
WERE MAKING.
1116
00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:05,403
[ "NEW RADIO" PLAYS ]
1117
00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:15,547
♪ I'M A LITTLE GIRL
1118
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:17,248
AT THE PICNIC
1119
00:35:17,282 --> 00:35:19,184
WHO WON'T STOP PULLING
1120
00:35:19,217 --> 00:35:20,685
HER DRESS UP ♪
1121
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,187
♪ IT DOESN'T MATTER
1122
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:24,189
WHO'S IN CONTROL NOW ♪
1123
00:35:24,222 --> 00:35:25,290
♪ IT DOESN'T MATTER
1124
00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:27,892
'CAUSE THIS IS NEW RADIO ♪
1125
00:35:33,665 --> 00:35:37,736
♪ WHAT THE FUCK IS WRITTEN
1126
00:35:37,769 --> 00:35:40,872
ALL OVER YOUR PRETTY FACE? ♪
1127
00:35:40,905 --> 00:35:42,507
♪ THE GAPS IN TEETH,
1128
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:44,442
THE DIRTY NAILS ♪
1129
00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,244
♪ BABY BOY, YOU CAN'T KILL
1130
00:35:46,277 --> 00:35:47,679
WHAT'S FUCKING REAL ♪
1131
00:35:47,712 --> 00:35:49,547
♪ TURN THAT SONG DOWN
1132
00:35:49,581 --> 00:35:51,216
♪ TURN THE STATIC UP
1133
00:35:51,249 --> 00:35:51,983
♪ COME HERE, BABY
1134
00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:52,784
♪ LET ME KISS YOU
1135
00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:54,719
LIKE A BOY DOES ♪
1136
00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:56,621
♪ OH-WHOA
1137
00:35:56,654 --> 00:35:58,390
♪ OH-WHOA
1138
00:35:58,423 --> 00:36:00,325
♪ OH-WHOA
1139
00:36:00,358 --> 00:36:03,995
♪ WHOA-OH
1140
00:36:04,029 --> 00:36:07,966
♪ YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH
1141
00:36:07,999 --> 00:36:09,801
♪ YEAH, YEAH
1142
00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:11,436
♪ YEAH, YEAH
1143
00:36:11,469 --> 00:36:12,537
♪ YEAH, YEAH
1144
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:17,609
♪ YEAH, YEAH
1145
00:36:17,642 --> 00:36:18,643
♪ LET'S WIPE OUR CUM
1146
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:20,845
ON MY PARENTS' BED ♪
1147
00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:22,414
I HAD NEVER SEEN BIKINI KILL
1148
00:36:22,447 --> 00:36:24,015
PLAY UNTIL "SUMMERSAULT" TOUR.
1149
00:36:24,049 --> 00:36:25,650
MIKE FROM MY BAND, HE HAD A
1150
00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:27,419
BIKINI KILL 7-INCH, AND IT WAS
1151
00:36:27,452 --> 00:36:29,020
ONE OF THOSE THINGS LIKE, "OH,
1152
00:36:29,054 --> 00:36:30,822
SHOOT, YOU GOT TO HEAR THIS
1153
00:36:30,855 --> 00:36:31,456
RECORD. "
1154
00:36:31,489 --> 00:36:33,024
AND THEN, HIS WIFE, TAMRA,
1155
00:36:33,058 --> 00:36:34,859
WHO'S A FILMMAKER, INTERVIEWED
1156
00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:35,560
KATHLEEN.
1157
00:36:35,593 --> 00:36:37,295
WE WERE WATCHING THIS THING THAT
1158
00:36:37,328 --> 00:36:38,830
SHE MADE, AND IT WAS FUCKING
1159
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:40,298
KATHLEEN BEING INTERVIEWED
1160
00:36:40,331 --> 00:36:41,933
WEARING A SKI MASK IN, LIKE, A
1161
00:36:41,966 --> 00:36:43,568
STAIRWELL SOMEWHERE, AND I WAS
1162
00:36:43,601 --> 00:36:45,003
LIKE, "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING
1163
00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:45,670
ON?
1164
00:36:45,703 --> 00:36:47,038
THIS IS SOME SERIOUS SHIT. "
1165
00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:48,873
AND SO I WAS VERY INTERESTED.
1166
00:36:48,907 --> 00:36:50,041
I DID A VIDEO CALLED
1167
00:36:50,075 --> 00:36:51,810
"NO ALTERNATIVE GIRLS," AND
1168
00:36:51,843 --> 00:36:53,445
KATHLEEN HANNA WAS IN IT, AND
1169
00:36:53,478 --> 00:36:55,313
SHE WAS DOING A MEDIA BLACKOUT
1170
00:36:55,346 --> 00:36:56,014
AT THE TIME.
1171
00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:57,315
SO, SHE SAID SHE WOULD APPEAR IN
1172
00:36:57,348 --> 00:36:58,283
THE VIDEO, BUT SHE WOULDN'T LET
1173
00:36:58,316 --> 00:36:59,017
HER FACE BE IN IT.
1174
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:00,452
SO, SHE WORE THIS SKI MASK.
1175
00:37:00,485 --> 00:37:01,886
AND THEN, I WORKED WITH HER
1176
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,488
AGAIN WITH SONIC YOUTH, WHEN WE
1177
00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:04,489
DID THE VIDEO FOR
1178
00:37:04,522 --> 00:37:08,293
"BULL IN THE HEATHER. "
1179
00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:09,994
AND SO, WHEN BIKINI KILL WAS ON
1180
00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:11,596
TOUR, KATHLEEN WAS THERE, AND
1181
00:37:11,629 --> 00:37:13,064
ADAM WAS GOING THROUGH THIS
1182
00:37:13,098 --> 00:37:14,332
TERRIBLE BREAKUP.
1183
00:37:14,365 --> 00:37:15,900
I WAS TOTALLY TRYING TO GET THEM
1184
00:37:15,934 --> 00:37:17,602
TOGETHER, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THEY
1185
00:37:17,635 --> 00:37:19,304
WOULD BE FRIENDS, AT LEAST, BUT
1186
00:37:19,337 --> 00:37:20,705
ALSO, THEY HAD SO MUCH IN
1187
00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,073
COMMON, IT SEEMED TO ME.
1188
00:37:22,107 --> 00:37:23,775
AND I THOUGHT KATHLEEN WOULD BE
1189
00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:25,543
SOMEBODY REALLY GOOD FOR ADAM TO
1190
00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:26,311
TALK TO.
1191
00:37:26,344 --> 00:37:27,011
SO. .
1192
00:37:27,045 --> 00:37:29,481
YEAH, THAT WAS INTERESTING.
1193
00:37:29,514 --> 00:37:32,317
I WANTED TO BE ENCOURAGING, BUT
1194
00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:38,056
I WAS ALSO AFRAID.
1195
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:39,357
BIKINI KILL WAS SUPER
1196
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:40,959
PUNK ROCK, AND THEN IT REMINDED
1197
00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:42,494
ME OF, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I
1198
00:37:42,527 --> 00:37:44,028
WAS IN A HARDCORE BAND WHEN I
1199
00:37:44,062 --> 00:37:45,663
WAS A KID, THAT FEELING OF JUST,
1200
00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:47,332
LIKE, "WE'LL JUST DO WHATEVER WE
1201
00:37:47,365 --> 00:37:48,900
FEEL LIKE DOING," AND THAT WAS
1202
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:49,601
AWESOME TO SEE.
1203
00:37:49,634 --> 00:37:52,570
TO SEE THIS PUNK GROUP, AND IT
1204
00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:55,406
WAS ALL GIRLS IN FRONT, AND ALL
1205
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,842
JUST GIRLS JUST ALL ON THE
1206
00:37:57,876 --> 00:37:58,543
STAGE.
1207
00:37:58,576 --> 00:38:01,012
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR GUYS' SHOWS,
1208
00:38:01,045 --> 00:38:03,348
IT'S LIKE, "GET THE FUCK OFF MY
1209
00:38:03,381 --> 00:38:04,115
STAGE. "
1210
00:38:04,149 --> 00:38:05,783
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
1211
00:38:05,817 --> 00:38:07,952
AND THEN, KATHLEEN WAS JUST A
1212
00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:10,088
FORCE, LIKE A FULL-ON FORCE.
1213
00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:11,356
[ Laughing ] LIKE A CAR
1214
00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:13,057
ACCIDENT . YOU CAN'T LOOK AWAY.
1215
00:38:13,091 --> 00:38:14,459
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
1216
00:38:14,492 --> 00:38:15,927
I MEAN A GOOD CAR ACCIDENT.
1217
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,028
I DIDN'T MEAN IT.
1218
00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:18,663
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST LIKE,
1219
00:38:18,696 --> 00:38:21,699
"WHAT THE FUCK?"
1220
00:38:30,942 --> 00:38:33,044
WE WENT SKATEBOARDING ONE NIGHT
1221
00:38:33,077 --> 00:38:34,045
AT ADELAIDE.
1222
00:38:34,078 --> 00:38:36,414
I DIDN'T REALIZE . SHE WAS VERY
1223
00:38:36,447 --> 00:38:37,749
SNEAKY, I GUESS.
1224
00:38:37,782 --> 00:38:39,150
AND SHE WAS LIKE, "HEY, WHO
1225
00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:40,585
WANTS TO GO SKATEBOARDING?"
1226
00:38:40,618 --> 00:38:42,887
AND I WAS LIKE, "UH, I'LL GO
1227
00:38:42,921 --> 00:38:45,356
SKATEBOARDING. "
1228
00:38:50,161 --> 00:38:52,730
HEY, KATHLEEN.
1229
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,432
HMM?
1230
00:38:54,465 --> 00:38:56,100
COME ON.
1231
00:38:56,134 --> 00:38:57,702
I CAN DRY MYSELF.
1232
00:38:57,735 --> 00:38:59,404
WHAT'S GOING ON?
1233
00:38:59,437 --> 00:39:01,005
I'M NOT TELLING YOU.
1234
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:01,940
DRY YOURSELF.
1235
00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:03,041
GET . WOULD YOU GET OUT OF
1236
00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:03,474
HERE?!
1237
00:39:03,508 --> 00:39:04,142
DRY YOURSELF.
1238
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:05,710
INITIALLY, IT WAS REALLY
1239
00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:07,579
DIFFICULT WEAVING THEIR WORLDS
1240
00:39:07,612 --> 00:39:09,480
TOGETHER, BUT NOT BECAUSE THEY
1241
00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:11,449
DIDN'T HAVE STUFF IN COMMON, BUT
1242
00:39:11,482 --> 00:39:13,451
JUST BECAUSE OF THE . WHAT WILL
1243
00:39:13,484 --> 00:39:15,453
MY FRIENDS THINK OR MY COMMUNITY
1244
00:39:15,486 --> 00:39:16,421
OR SOMETHING?
1245
00:39:16,454 --> 00:39:17,922
I WAS DATING SOMEBODY WHO,
1246
00:39:17,956 --> 00:39:19,524
LIKE, WROTE "GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS
1247
00:39:19,557 --> 00:39:20,992
DO MY LAUNDRY" AND SHIT LIKE
1248
00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:21,960
THAT IN THE '80s.
1249
00:39:21,993 --> 00:39:23,595
SO, I WAS, LIKE, "WHAT DOES THIS
1250
00:39:23,628 --> 00:39:25,196
MEAN THAT I'M A FEMINIST ARTIST,
1251
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:26,798
AND I'M DATING THIS PERSON, AND
1252
00:39:26,831 --> 00:39:28,099
I'M SO IN LOVE WITH HIM?"
1253
00:39:28,132 --> 00:39:29,701
AND IT WAS LIKE I REALIZED THAT
1254
00:39:29,734 --> 00:39:31,436
YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE KIND OF WHO
1255
00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:32,437
YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH.
1256
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:34,072
LIKE, I WAS TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH
1257
00:39:34,105 --> 00:39:35,673
HIM, AND THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS
1258
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,108
NOT GONNA HANG OUT WITH HIM.
1259
00:39:37,141 --> 00:39:38,710
I'M SURE IT MADE IT A LITTLE
1260
00:39:38,743 --> 00:39:39,911
EXCITING AND, LIKE,
1261
00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:41,679
RISKY-FEELING, BUT ALSO IT JUST
1262
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:43,214
REALLY OPENED MY EYES THAT YOU
1263
00:39:43,248 --> 00:39:45,049
KIND OF FALL IN LOVE WITH WHO
1264
00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:46,050
YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH.
1265
00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:47,218
AND I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT
1266
00:39:47,252 --> 00:39:47,986
IT.
1267
00:39:48,019 --> 00:39:49,120
BUT I FREAKED OUT.
1268
00:39:49,153 --> 00:39:54,092
♪ 'CAUSE I LIKE YOU
1269
00:39:54,125 --> 00:40:00,798
♪ BABY, IT'S ALL WRONG
1270
00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:03,468
♪ BABY, BABY, IT'S SO WRONG
1271
00:40:03,501 --> 00:40:07,906
♪ OH, BABY, IT'S SO WRONG
1272
00:40:07,939 --> 00:40:10,675
♪ IT FEELS SO GOOD
1273
00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:12,777
♪ IT'S ALL WRONG
1274
00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:14,045
AFTER THE WHOLE TOUR
1275
00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:15,480
HAPPENED, THEY HAD THIS
1276
00:40:15,513 --> 00:40:16,748
LONG-DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP,
1277
00:40:16,781 --> 00:40:17,882
WHERE THEY WERE ONLY
1278
00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:19,517
COMMUNICATING THROUGH THE PHONE
1279
00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:20,752
OR WRITING EACH OTHER.
1280
00:40:20,785 --> 00:40:22,153
THERE WAS A TIME PERIOD
1281
00:40:22,186 --> 00:40:23,621
WHERE WE WEREN'T, LIKE . WE
1282
00:40:23,655 --> 00:40:25,189
DIDN'T DO STUFF IN PUBLIC, AND
1283
00:40:25,223 --> 00:40:26,257
WE WERE REALLY PRIVATE.
1284
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:28,126
BUT THAT WAS KIND OF BOTH OF OUR
1285
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:28,793
CHOICES.
1286
00:40:28,826 --> 00:40:30,261
SO, IT WASN'T REALLY LIKE WE
1287
00:40:30,295 --> 00:40:32,263
WERE HIDING, BUT I COULD SEE HOW
1288
00:40:32,297 --> 00:40:35,199
IT APPEARED THAT WAY.
1289
00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:39,637
THE THING IS ABOUT
1290
00:40:39,671 --> 00:40:42,507
BIKINI KILL . THEY WERE LOOKED
1291
00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,176
AT AND SCRUTINIZED SO CLOSELY
1292
00:40:45,209 --> 00:40:47,845
AND HAD THIS CERTAIN LEVEL OF
1293
00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:49,047
CELEBRITY.
1294
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,282
BUT THEY WERE STILL BARELY
1295
00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:52,517
MAKING RENT.
1296
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:54,752
THEY WERE STILL IN A CRAPPY VAN
1297
00:40:54,786 --> 00:40:56,821
THAT COULD EASILY BREAK DOWN.
1298
00:40:56,854 --> 00:40:58,790
THEY WERE STILL SLEEPING ON
1299
00:40:58,823 --> 00:40:59,991
STRANGERS' FLOORS.
1300
00:41:11,602 --> 00:41:13,237
BIKINI KILL WAS JUST, LIKE,
1301
00:41:13,271 --> 00:41:14,906
IN THIS WEIRD DISARRAY, AND
1302
00:41:14,939 --> 00:41:16,541
THERE WAS A LOT OF TENSION
1303
00:41:16,574 --> 00:41:17,542
BETWEEN US.
1304
00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:19,544
YOU KNOW, WE'D ALL GOTTEN INTO,
1305
00:41:19,577 --> 00:41:21,746
LIKE, WEIRD ROLES OF WHO WE WERE
1306
00:41:21,779 --> 00:41:23,982
IN THAT BAND, AND IT WAS KIND OF
1307
00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:26,017
JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT OF
1308
00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:26,584
THEM.
1309
00:41:26,617 --> 00:41:27,986
WHAT IS BIKINI KILL?
1310
00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:29,754
BIKINI KILL IS FOREVER IN FLUX,
1311
00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:31,322
AND IT'S COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE
1312
00:41:31,356 --> 00:41:33,157
FOR US TO DISCUSS IT, BECAUSE
1313
00:41:33,191 --> 00:41:34,292
IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING.
1314
00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:36,227
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY HARD
1315
00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:37,862
FOR US TO DO INTERVIEWS, AND
1316
00:41:37,895 --> 00:41:39,597
ALSO BECAUSE ALL FOUR OF US
1317
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:41,099
DON'T AGREE ON ANYTHING EVER.
1318
00:41:41,132 --> 00:41:42,700
AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO
1319
00:41:42,734 --> 00:41:44,602
SORT OUT WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY
1320
00:41:44,635 --> 00:41:45,303
SAY ABOUT IT.
1321
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,004
OUR RELATIONSHIPS AS FOUR
1322
00:41:47,038 --> 00:41:48,840
PEOPLE DISINTEGRATED BECAUSE WE
1323
00:41:48,873 --> 00:41:50,341
WEREN'T EVER LOOKING AT EACH
1324
00:41:50,375 --> 00:41:52,143
OTHER AND DEALING WITH THE
1325
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:55,046
PROBLEMS THAT EACH OF US HAD.
1326
00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:06,591
I WAS IN BIKINI KILL FOR,
1327
00:42:06,624 --> 00:42:07,658
LIKE, EIGHT YEARS.
1328
00:42:07,692 --> 00:42:09,160
IT'S A LONG TIME FOR A GIRL
1329
00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:09,861
BAND.
1330
00:42:09,894 --> 00:42:11,229
AND TO BE UNDER THE MAGNIFYING
1331
00:42:11,262 --> 00:42:12,930
GLASS AND KIND OF PINNED TO WAX
1332
00:42:12,964 --> 00:42:14,365
HOW WE WERE, IT'S A REALLY,
1333
00:42:14,399 --> 00:42:15,600
REALLY LONG TIME.
1334
00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:17,268
HER WORK SEEMED TO MAKE HER
1335
00:42:17,301 --> 00:42:19,103
FEEL ISOLATED MORE, AND, LIKE,
1336
00:42:19,137 --> 00:42:20,972
REACTION TO HER BAND SEEMED TO
1337
00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:22,807
MAKE HER FEEL LIKE SHE WAS SET
1338
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,742
APART FROM HER BANDMATES AND SET
1339
00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:26,244
APART FROM THE GIRLS IN
1340
00:42:26,277 --> 00:42:28,012
RIOT GRRRL AND SET APART FROM
1341
00:42:28,045 --> 00:42:29,914
OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PUNK SCENE,
1342
00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:31,983
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, HER
1343
00:42:32,016 --> 00:42:34,285
MUSIC AND HER ART WAS BRINGING
1344
00:42:34,318 --> 00:42:36,154
PEOPLE TOGETHER SO MUCH.
1345
00:42:36,187 --> 00:42:38,056
I THINK KATHLEEN STRUGGLED
1346
00:42:38,089 --> 00:42:39,857
WITH THE LEADERSHIP ROLE AT
1347
00:42:39,891 --> 00:42:40,558
TIMES.
1348
00:42:40,591 --> 00:42:42,660
SHE HAD A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY
1349
00:42:42,693 --> 00:42:43,895
THAT CAME WITH THAT.
1350
00:42:43,928 --> 00:42:45,830
SHE DEFINITELY STRUGGLED WITH
1351
00:42:45,863 --> 00:42:47,799
THIS, THE KIND OF IMPLICATIONS
1352
00:42:47,832 --> 00:42:49,700
THAT THAT MUCH FAME HAS FOR A
1353
00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:50,368
PERSON.
1354
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:54,338
[ TELEPHONE RINGING ]
1355
00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:55,039
CAN YOU. .
1356
00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:56,841
LOUDER. I'M HAVING TROUBLE.
1357
00:42:56,874 --> 00:42:58,342
I DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE
1358
00:42:58,376 --> 00:42:59,410
LEADER OR SINGLED OUT.
1359
00:42:59,444 --> 00:43:01,078
AND, I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT
1360
00:43:01,112 --> 00:43:02,814
GLORIA CAN COMMISERATE WITH THE
1361
00:43:02,847 --> 00:43:04,382
POSITION OF BEING, GETTING A
1362
00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:06,017
REALLY NEGATIVE ATTENTION FROM
1363
00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:06,684
THE MEDIA.
1364
00:43:06,717 --> 00:43:08,319
IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF
1365
00:43:08,352 --> 00:43:09,921
GETTING KICKED IN THE FACE BY
1366
00:43:09,954 --> 00:43:10,555
BOTH SIDES.
1367
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,657
ON THE ONE HAND, I WAS
1368
00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:14,358
WORKING IN THE MEDIA.
1369
00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:16,727
ON THE OTHER HAND, I WAS TRYING
1370
00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:18,830
TO AVOID BEING SINGLED OUT.
1371
00:43:18,863 --> 00:43:20,998
IT WASN'T ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL.
1372
00:43:21,032 --> 00:43:22,700
IT'S NOT ALWAYS UNDER YOUR
1373
00:43:22,733 --> 00:43:24,302
CONTROL, BUT I THINK THE
1374
00:43:24,335 --> 00:43:26,237
CHALLENGE IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW
1375
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:27,839
TO USE IT TO CONVEY COME
1376
00:43:27,872 --> 00:43:28,539
MESSAGE.
1377
00:43:28,573 --> 00:43:30,174
I'M NOT WILING TO DEAL WITH
1378
00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:31,742
THE MAINSTREAM ANYMORE, WHEN
1379
00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:33,311
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ASKING ME
1380
00:43:33,344 --> 00:43:34,912
QUESTIONS ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE,
1381
00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:36,714
ABOUT IF I'VE BEEN A STRIPPER,
1382
00:43:36,747 --> 00:43:38,149
IF I HAVEN'T BEEN A STRIPPER,
1383
00:43:38,182 --> 00:43:39,450
CONSTANTLY JUST COMPLETELY
1384
00:43:39,484 --> 00:43:41,085
SEXIST SHIT, WHERE THEY'RE
1385
00:43:41,118 --> 00:43:42,787
TRYING TO TURN ON THE BAND THAT
1386
00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:44,255
I'M IN OR THE PROJECTS I'M
1387
00:43:44,288 --> 00:43:45,756
INVOLVED WITH AGAINST OTHER
1388
00:43:45,790 --> 00:43:47,225
WOMEN WHO I RESPECT IN THE
1389
00:43:47,258 --> 00:43:48,926
COMMUNITY, COMING UP, YOU KNOW,
1390
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,228
SAYING, "SO-AND-SO SAID
1391
00:43:50,261 --> 00:43:51,929
SO-AND-SO ABOUT YOU" TO GET YOU
1392
00:43:51,963 --> 00:43:53,464
TO SLAG OFF ANOTHER WOMAN SO
1393
00:43:53,498 --> 00:43:54,465
THAT THEY CAN PRINT,
1394
00:43:54,499 --> 00:43:56,234
"KATHLEEN HANNA DOESN'T LIKE
1395
00:43:56,267 --> 00:43:56,934
PJ HARVEY. "
1396
00:43:56,968 --> 00:43:58,436
YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHATEVER, AND
1397
00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:00,104
CREATING ALL THESE SCHISMS
1398
00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:01,472
BECAUSE IT SELLS PAPERS.
1399
00:44:01,506 --> 00:44:02,473
THIS IS THE THING THAT'S
1400
00:44:02,507 --> 00:44:03,774
HAPPENED EVER SINCE THE
1401
00:44:03,808 --> 00:44:04,475
BEGINNING OF TIME.
1402
00:44:04,509 --> 00:44:06,043
YOU ASK A WOMAN ABOUT ANOTHER
1403
00:44:06,077 --> 00:44:07,478
WOMAN AND TRY TO GET HER TO SAY
1404
00:44:07,512 --> 00:44:08,980
SOMETHING BAD, AND THEN YOU MAKE
1405
00:44:09,013 --> 00:44:10,114
THE ARTICLE ALL ABOUT A
1406
00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:10,815
CATFIGHT.
1407
00:44:10,848 --> 00:44:12,149
LOLLAPALOOZA NEWS, MEANWHILE,
1408
00:44:12,183 --> 00:44:13,451
COURTNEY LOVE, ONE OF THE TOUR'S
1409
00:44:13,484 --> 00:44:15,019
HEADLINERS THIS YEAR, WITH HER
1410
00:44:15,052 --> 00:44:16,254
BAND HOLE, WAS OFFICIALLY
1411
00:44:16,287 --> 00:44:17,488
CHARGED WITH FOURTH-DEGREE
1412
00:44:17,522 --> 00:44:18,856
ASSAULT THIS WEEK FOR, AS SHE
1413
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:20,291
ACKNOWLEDGED IN A RECENT ONLINE
1414
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:21,492
RANT, PUNCHING OUT BIKINI KILL
1415
00:44:21,526 --> 00:44:23,127
SINGER KATHLEEN HANNA BACKSTAGE
1416
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,362
AT A LOLLAPALOOZA SHOW ON
1417
00:44:24,395 --> 00:44:25,463
JULY 4th, AN INCIDENT FIRST
1418
00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:27,131
REPORTED ALSO ONLINE BY
1419
00:44:27,165 --> 00:44:28,499
THURSTON MOORE OF THE
1420
00:44:28,533 --> 00:44:30,101
BILL-TOPPING SONIC YOUTH.
1421
00:44:30,134 --> 00:44:31,802
WE DID LOLLAPALOOZA.
1422
00:44:31,836 --> 00:44:33,971
KATHLEEN WAS THERE, AND SHE WAS
1423
00:44:34,005 --> 00:44:36,174
STANDING ON THE STAGE, WATCHING
1424
00:44:36,207 --> 00:44:38,342
US, AND COURTNEY LOVE BASICALLY
1425
00:44:38,376 --> 00:44:40,411
JUST PUNCHED HER IN THE FACE.
1426
00:44:40,444 --> 00:44:42,480
AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF
1427
00:44:42,513 --> 00:44:43,314
OUR TOUR.
1428
00:44:43,347 --> 00:44:43,981
[ LAUGHS ]
1429
00:44:44,015 --> 00:44:45,449
I MEAN, THERE'S THE WHOLE
1430
00:44:45,483 --> 00:44:46,751
LOLLAPALOOZA PUNCHING
1431
00:44:46,784 --> 00:44:47,518
COURTNEY LOVE THING.
1432
00:44:47,552 --> 00:44:51,022
NO, COURTNEY LOVE PUNCHED HER.
1433
00:44:51,055 --> 00:44:52,990
SEE, I DON'T . I. .
1434
00:44:53,024 --> 00:44:54,292
I CAN'T TRUST THE INTERNET.
1435
00:44:54,325 --> 00:44:55,526
THAT'S THE WHOLE THING THAT
1436
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,061
PISSED ME OFF IS THAT LATER,
1437
00:44:57,094 --> 00:44:58,529
PEOPLE WERE LIKE, "THEY FOUGHT!
1438
00:44:58,563 --> 00:45:00,031
THERE WAS THIS RIVALRY, AND THEY
1439
00:45:00,064 --> 00:45:00,731
FOUGHT. "
1440
00:45:00,765 --> 00:45:02,033
IT'S LIKE, "DUDE, I WAS STANDING
1441
00:45:02,066 --> 00:45:03,301
THERE WATCHING A BAND, AND
1442
00:45:03,334 --> 00:45:04,769
COURTNEY WALKED UP AND ATTACKED
1443
00:45:04,802 --> 00:45:05,469
ME. "
1444
00:45:05,503 --> 00:45:06,804
I THINK PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE
1445
00:45:06,837 --> 00:45:07,972
THAT KATHLEEN AND COURTNEY
1446
00:45:08,005 --> 00:45:09,140
DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER.
1447
00:45:09,173 --> 00:45:10,474
IT'S A REAL BUMMER TO BE
1448
00:45:10,508 --> 00:45:11,042
ASSAULTED.
1449
00:45:11,075 --> 00:45:12,343
IT SUCKS. IT'S NOT COOL.
1450
00:45:12,376 --> 00:45:13,544
IT'S A REAL BUMMER IF YOU'RE A
1451
00:45:13,578 --> 00:45:14,845
FEMINIST, AND YOU'RE ASSAULTED
1452
00:45:14,879 --> 00:45:16,080
BY ANOTHER WOMAN, BECAUSE IT'S
1453
00:45:16,113 --> 00:45:17,214
JUST KIND OF HEARTBREAKING,
1454
00:45:17,248 --> 00:45:19,116
ESPECIALLY A WOMAN WHO YOU'RE
1455
00:45:19,150 --> 00:45:21,218
KIND OF HOPING YOU GUYS COULD BE
1456
00:45:21,252 --> 00:45:24,355
SOME KIND OF ALLIES.
1457
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:30,828
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
1458
00:45:30,861 --> 00:45:32,029
AR CLOSE TO KATHLEEN HAVE
1459
00:45:32,063 --> 00:45:33,397
WORRIED ABOUT HER SAFETY FOR A
1460
00:45:33,431 --> 00:45:34,365
VARIETY OF REASONS.
1461
00:45:34,398 --> 00:45:36,567
YOU KNOW, SHE'S EXPERIENCED
1462
00:45:36,601 --> 00:45:39,070
VIOLENCE TOWARDS HER IN REALLY
1463
00:45:39,103 --> 00:45:41,305
AGGRESSIVE WAYS THAT NOBODY
1464
00:45:41,339 --> 00:45:43,174
SHOULD HAVE TO EXPERIENCE.
1465
00:45:43,207 --> 00:45:45,176
HATRED FOR BIKINI KILL AND
1466
00:45:45,209 --> 00:45:46,577
SPECIFICALLY KATHLEEN.
1467
00:45:46,611 --> 00:45:48,579
SHE WOULD GET LETTERS FROM
1468
00:45:48,613 --> 00:45:51,349
GUYS THAT WERE LIKE, "YOU NEED
1469
00:45:51,382 --> 00:45:52,283
TO DIE. "
1470
00:45:52,316 --> 00:45:54,986
THEY JUST WANTED TO, LIKE, STAMP
1471
00:45:55,019 --> 00:45:55,953
HER OUT.
1472
00:45:55,987 --> 00:45:58,956
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY.
1473
00:45:58,990 --> 00:46:00,491
I REMEMBER THINGS LIKE THAT
1474
00:46:00,524 --> 00:46:02,059
WOULD HAPPEN, AND IT WOULD FEEL
1475
00:46:02,093 --> 00:46:02,760
TOTALLY SHITTY.
1476
00:46:02,793 --> 00:46:04,495
AND I WAS JUST LIKE, I HAD KIDS
1477
00:46:04,528 --> 00:46:05,963
WRITING ME, SAYING, LIKE, YOU
1478
00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:07,531
KNOW, "I WAS GONNA KILL MYSELF,
1479
00:46:07,565 --> 00:46:09,066
AND I GOT YOUR RECORD, AND YOU
1480
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:09,734
SAVED MY LIFE. "
1481
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,369
AND ALL I COULD SAY BACK IS,
1482
00:46:11,402 --> 00:46:12,870
LIKE, "YOU SAVED MY LIFE, TOO,
1483
00:46:12,903 --> 00:46:14,405
BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET THROUGH
1484
00:46:14,438 --> 00:46:16,407
ALL OF THE . NOT CRITICISM, BUT
1485
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,243
ALL THE HATE THAT GOT THROWN MY
1486
00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:22,213
WAY. "
1487
00:46:32,323 --> 00:46:33,624
I MADE A RECORD CALLED
1488
00:46:33,658 --> 00:46:35,626
"JULIE RUIN" THAT WAS A SOLO
1489
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:37,895
RECORD, AND I MADE IT KIND OF TO
1490
00:46:37,928 --> 00:46:39,597
ESCAPE WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO ME.
1491
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:41,465
AND SO I MADE IT UNDER AN
1492
00:46:41,499 --> 00:46:42,466
ASSUMED NAME.
1493
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:44,502
IN BIKINI KILL, I WAS SINGING TO
1494
00:46:44,535 --> 00:46:46,537
AN ELUSIVE ASSHOLE MALE THAT WAS
1495
00:46:46,570 --> 00:46:48,372
FUCKING THE WORLD OVER, AND I
1496
00:46:48,406 --> 00:46:50,141
WAS ALLOWING OTHER WOMEN TO
1497
00:46:50,174 --> 00:46:51,342
WATCH ME DO THAT.
1498
00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:52,943
AND I REALLY WANTED TO START
1499
00:46:52,977 --> 00:46:54,912
DIRECTLY SINGING TO OTHER WOMEN.
1500
00:46:54,945 --> 00:46:56,480
FOR KATHLEEN'S MUSIC TO GROW
1501
00:46:56,514 --> 00:46:58,916
IN DIRECTIONS TOWARD ELECTRONIC
1502
00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:01,052
MUSIC COMPLETELY MAKES SENSE TO
1503
00:47:01,085 --> 00:47:01,752
ME.
1504
00:47:01,786 --> 00:47:03,020
WHEN YOU'VE DISCONNECTED FROM
1505
00:47:03,054 --> 00:47:04,388
YOUR COMMUNITY OR LOST YOUR
1506
00:47:04,422 --> 00:47:05,656
COMMUNITY, IT'S AMAZING IF YOU
1507
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:07,024
CAN SEIZE THE MEANS OF
1508
00:47:07,058 --> 00:47:08,092
TECHNOLOGY YOURSELF.
1509
00:47:08,125 --> 00:47:09,627
I WENT TO VISIT KATHLEEN, AND
1510
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:10,961
WE WENT TO SOME MUSIC SHOP.
1511
00:47:10,995 --> 00:47:12,196
THEY HAD A DRUMATICS DRUM
1512
00:47:12,229 --> 00:47:12,830
MACHINE.
1513
00:47:12,863 --> 00:47:13,964
KATHLEEN BOUGHT THIS DRUM
1514
00:47:13,998 --> 00:47:15,032
MACHINE FOR 40 BUCKS.
1515
00:47:15,066 --> 00:47:16,467
THEN, SHE RECORDED, LIKE, THE
1516
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:17,902
WHOLE FUCKING "JULIE RUIN"
1517
00:47:17,935 --> 00:47:18,469
RECORD.
1518
00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:20,204
THAT RECORD IS A FUCKING
1519
00:47:20,237 --> 00:47:22,339
MASTERPIECE.
1520
00:47:27,511 --> 00:47:29,180
IT WAS THIS WHOLE, NEW SIDE
1521
00:47:29,213 --> 00:47:30,281
OF KATHLEEN HANNA.
1522
00:47:30,314 --> 00:47:31,649
IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW SOMEONE.
1523
00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:33,350
THEY'RE YOUR FRIEND BUT HAD
1524
00:47:33,384 --> 00:47:35,086
NEVER OPENED UP THEIR SCRAPBOOK
1525
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:36,921
AND SHOWED YOU WHAT REALLY MADE
1526
00:47:36,954 --> 00:47:37,955
THEM WHO THEY ARE.
1527
00:47:37,988 --> 00:47:39,490
THAT'S WHAT "JULIE RUIN" STARTED
1528
00:47:39,523 --> 00:47:41,058
TO DO FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE
1529
00:47:41,092 --> 00:47:44,028
INTERESTED IN KATHLEEN HANNA.
1530
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:48,199
I FELT LIKE A LOT OF MY
1531
00:47:48,232 --> 00:47:50,034
GRAPHIC SENSIBILITY CAME OUT IN
1532
00:47:50,067 --> 00:47:51,669
IT BECAUSE USING SAMPLES, IT'S
1533
00:47:51,702 --> 00:47:52,703
VERY CUT-AND-PASTE.
1534
00:47:52,737 --> 00:47:54,505
MAKING IT FANCY FOR ME WAS
1535
00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:56,073
ALWAYS BEING IN MY ROOM BY
1536
00:47:56,107 --> 00:47:57,942
MYSELF AND CUTTING STUFF AND
1537
00:47:57,975 --> 00:47:59,410
HAVING THIS REALLY SPECIFIC
1538
00:47:59,443 --> 00:48:01,112
RELATIONSHIP TO MY MATERIALS
1539
00:48:01,145 --> 00:48:03,013
THAT WAS NOT MEDIATED BY ANYBODY
1540
00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:03,714
ELSE.
1541
00:48:03,748 --> 00:48:05,382
SHE WAS FIGURING EVERYTHING
1542
00:48:05,416 --> 00:48:06,517
OUT FOR HERSELF.
1543
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:09,286
IT SOUNDED LO-FI AND ON
1544
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,156
PURPOSE LO-FI AND JUST REALLY
1545
00:48:12,189 --> 00:48:13,090
SMART.
1546
00:48:13,124 --> 00:48:14,959
SOUNDS LIKE YOU COULD HEAR A
1547
00:48:14,992 --> 00:48:16,427
HUMAN BEING'S FINGERS ALL OVER
1548
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:17,128
IT.
1549
00:48:17,161 --> 00:48:18,562
IT SOUNDS LIKE BEDROOM CULTURE.
1550
00:48:18,596 --> 00:48:20,264
IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A GIRL
1551
00:48:20,297 --> 00:48:23,534
MADE IN HER BEDROOM.
1552
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,708
A GIRL'S BEDROOM SOMETIMES CAN
1553
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:32,109
BE THIS SPACE OF REAL
1554
00:48:32,143 --> 00:48:32,743
CREATIVITY.
1555
00:48:32,777 --> 00:48:34,311
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THESE
1556
00:48:34,345 --> 00:48:35,746
BEDROOMS ARE ALL CUT OFF FROM
1557
00:48:35,780 --> 00:48:36,680
EACH OTHER.
1558
00:48:36,714 --> 00:48:38,315
SO, HOW DO YOU TAKE THAT BEDROOM
1559
00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:39,750
THAT YOU'RE CUT OFF FROM ALL THE
1560
00:48:39,784 --> 00:48:41,552
OTHER GIRLS WHO ARE SECRETLY IN
1561
00:48:41,585 --> 00:48:43,020
THEIR BEDROOM WRITING SECRET
1562
00:48:43,053 --> 00:48:44,588
THINGS OR MAKING SECRET SONGS?
1563
00:48:44,622 --> 00:48:46,223
I WANTED THE "JULIE RUIN" RECORD
1564
00:48:46,257 --> 00:48:47,725
TO SOUND LIKE A GIRL FROM HER
1565
00:48:47,758 --> 00:48:49,193
BEDROOM MADE THIS RECORD BUT
1566
00:48:49,226 --> 00:48:50,694
THEN DIDN'T JUST THROW IT AWAY,
1567
00:48:50,728 --> 00:48:52,229
OR IT WASN'T JUST IN HER DIARY.
1568
00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:53,664
BUT SHE TOOK IT OUT AND SHARED
1569
00:48:53,697 --> 00:48:54,732
IT WITH PEOPLE.
1570
00:48:54,765 --> 00:48:56,500
♪ . HOW MANY TIMES
1571
00:48:56,534 --> 00:49:01,005
I MADE YOU CRY ♪
1572
00:49:01,038 --> 00:49:05,509
♪ YOU CAN TELL ANYONE
1573
00:49:05,543 --> 00:49:09,446
ANYTHING YOU WANT ♪
1574
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,316
♪ BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT
1575
00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:14,618
HOW I DESERVE WHAT YOU DID,
1576
00:49:14,652 --> 00:49:16,620
YOU CAN LOOK NOW
1577
00:49:16,654 --> 00:49:19,657
'CAUSE I'M GONE ♪
1578
00:49:19,690 --> 00:49:20,791
TO ME, THE "JULIE RUIN"
1579
00:49:20,825 --> 00:49:22,426
RECORD IS WHAT REALLY CHANGED
1580
00:49:22,459 --> 00:49:24,195
KATHLEEN, IN TERMS OF HER, LIKE,
1581
00:49:24,228 --> 00:49:25,296
SHE WAS IN A BAND.
1582
00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:26,497
SHE WAS IN THIS BAND
1583
00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:28,132
BIKINI KILL, AND THEY DID ALL
1584
00:49:28,165 --> 00:49:29,300
THIS FUCKING STUFF.
1585
00:49:29,333 --> 00:49:30,701
AND SHE MADE THIS RECORD
1586
00:49:30,734 --> 00:49:32,369
"JULIE RUIN," AND SHE'S, LIKE,
1587
00:49:32,403 --> 00:49:34,438
NOW A MUSICIAN.
1588
00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:36,974
FUCK IT.
1589
00:49:40,845 --> 00:49:43,647
"JULIE RUIN" WAS KIND OF THE
1590
00:49:43,681 --> 00:49:46,317
TEMPLATE, THE FOUNDATION STONE.
1591
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:48,519
AND THEN LE TIGRE WAS THE
1592
00:49:48,552 --> 00:49:52,823
BEGINNING OF A WHOLE NEW WORLD.
1593
00:49:52,857 --> 00:49:54,525
I DECIDED I WANTED TO MOVE TO
1594
00:49:54,558 --> 00:49:56,060
PORTLAND 'CAUSE I HAD TO GET OUT
1595
00:49:56,093 --> 00:49:57,561
OF OLYMPIA 'CAUSE IT WAS DRIVING
1596
00:49:57,595 --> 00:50:03,167
ME CRAZY.
1597
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,369
I GAVE KATHLEEN MY 'ZINE.
1598
00:50:05,402 --> 00:50:07,071
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D
1599
00:50:07,104 --> 00:50:08,772
CALL THAT, LIKE, MEETING HER.
1600
00:50:08,806 --> 00:50:10,507
I JUST, LIKE, SAID HI AND GAVE
1601
00:50:10,541 --> 00:50:12,076
IT TO HER AT A SHOW AT THE
1602
00:50:12,109 --> 00:50:13,477
X-RAY CAFé IN PORTLAND.
1603
00:50:13,511 --> 00:50:15,079
I READ JO'S FANZINE, AND I
1604
00:50:15,112 --> 00:50:16,580
WAS LIKE, "THIS IS THE BEST
1605
00:50:16,614 --> 00:50:18,082
FANZINE I'VE READ EVER.
1606
00:50:18,115 --> 00:50:19,650
SHE HAS TO BE MY NEW BEST
1607
00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:20,351
FRIEND. "
1608
00:50:20,384 --> 00:50:22,253
BASICALLY, I SPENT A WHOLE DAY,
1609
00:50:22,286 --> 00:50:23,821
LIKE, JUST DRIVING AROUND,
1610
00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:24,855
LOOKING FOR HER.
1611
00:50:24,889 --> 00:50:26,690
SHE WAS LIKE, "YOU'RE GONNA
1612
00:50:26,724 --> 00:50:27,591
BE MY FRIEND.
1613
00:50:27,625 --> 00:50:29,126
WE'RE GONNA BE IN A BAND.
1614
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:34,865
AND THAT'S THAT. "
1615
00:50:34,899 --> 00:50:36,166
AND I WAS LIKE, "OKAY. "
1616
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,768
MY ORIGINAL IDEA WAS TO TRY
1617
00:50:37,801 --> 00:50:39,503
AND MAKE THE "JULIE RUIN" RECORD
1618
00:50:39,536 --> 00:50:40,571
INTO A STAGE SHOW.
1619
00:50:40,604 --> 00:50:42,106
I NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A
1620
00:50:42,139 --> 00:50:43,807
BAND AGAIN IN MY WHOLE LIFE, I'M
1621
00:50:43,841 --> 00:50:45,376
CONVINCED OF IT, IF IT WASN'T
1622
00:50:45,409 --> 00:50:46,877
FOR MY FRIENDSHIP WITH JOHANNA,
1623
00:50:46,911 --> 00:50:47,878
'CAUSE I WAS REALLY BURNT OUT
1624
00:50:47,912 --> 00:50:48,445
AND SAD.
1625
00:50:48,479 --> 00:50:49,847
I WAS REALLY DEPRESSED.
1626
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,882
I REMEMBER SITTING IN MY CAR,
1627
00:50:51,916 --> 00:50:54,118
AND IT WAS RAINING, WITH JO.
1628
00:50:54,151 --> 00:50:55,619
AND I JUST, LIKE, LOOKED AT HER
1629
00:50:55,653 --> 00:50:56,720
AND STARTED CRYING.
1630
00:50:56,754 --> 00:50:58,789
AND I JUST TOLD HER EVERYTHING.
1631
00:50:58,822 --> 00:51:03,360
♪ I WANT YOU TO STAY
1632
00:51:27,551 --> 00:51:29,553
I STARTED REALIZING THAT I
1633
00:51:29,587 --> 00:51:31,488
SHOULD MOVE TO NEW YORK.
1634
00:51:31,522 --> 00:51:32,923
WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PLACE
1635
00:51:32,957 --> 00:51:33,624
TO STAY, EXACTLY.
1636
00:51:33,657 --> 00:51:34,892
WE WERE BOTH REALLY BROKE.
1637
00:51:34,925 --> 00:51:36,226
I MEAN, REALLY BROKE.
1638
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:37,561
I JUST MOVED TO NEW YORK WITH
1639
00:51:37,594 --> 00:51:39,196
$400.
1640
00:51:39,229 --> 00:51:40,164
THERE'S NO WAY I COULD HAVE
1641
00:51:40,197 --> 00:51:41,398
AFFORDED RENT, SO I WAS REALLY
1642
00:51:41,432 --> 00:51:42,733
FORTUNATE THAT I HAD A BOYFRIEND
1643
00:51:42,766 --> 00:51:43,934
WHO HAD AN APARTMENT AND WOULD
1644
00:51:43,968 --> 00:51:45,202
LET ME STAY WITH HIM.
1645
00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:46,437
YOU KNOW, I WAS PSYCHED ABOUT
1646
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:47,771
EVERYTHING . PSYCHED ABOUT
1647
00:51:47,805 --> 00:51:48,906
RIDING THE SUBWAY, GOING TO
1648
00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:50,441
MUSEUMS, BEING NEAR JOHANNA,
1649
00:51:50,474 --> 00:51:51,442
BEING WITH ADAM.
1650
00:51:51,475 --> 00:51:52,910
EVERYTHING WAS GOOD AGAIN FOR
1651
00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:55,179
ME.
1652
00:51:55,212 --> 00:51:56,947
AND THEN THE WOODSTOCK THING
1653
00:51:56,981 --> 00:51:57,948
HAPPENED.
1654
00:51:57,982 --> 00:51:59,283
WOODSTOCK '99.
1655
00:51:59,316 --> 00:52:00,918
THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS
1656
00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:01,952
SITUATION.
1657
00:52:01,986 --> 00:52:02,720
IT WAS DISGUSTING.
1658
00:52:02,753 --> 00:52:03,387
I WAS MOLESTED.
1659
00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:04,888
I WAS STOMPING AROUND THE
1660
00:52:04,922 --> 00:52:06,190
APARTMENT, PISSED OFF.
1661
00:52:06,223 --> 00:52:08,192
AND HE WAS STOMPING AROUND THE
1662
00:52:08,225 --> 00:52:09,760
APARTMENT, PISSED OFF.
1663
00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:10,894
EIGHT RAPES AND SEXUAL
1664
00:52:10,928 --> 00:52:11,962
ASSAULTS DURING THE FESTIVAL
1665
00:52:11,996 --> 00:52:12,663
REPORTED.
1666
00:52:12,696 --> 00:52:13,964
I WAS, LIKE, "WHY DON'T YOU
1667
00:52:13,998 --> 00:52:15,399
SAY SOMETHING AT YOUR ACCEPTANCE
1668
00:52:15,432 --> 00:52:16,066
SPEECH?"
1669
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,501
AND THEN WE SAT DOWN, AND WE
1670
00:52:17,534 --> 00:52:19,269
WORKED ON WRITING SOMETHING, AND
1671
00:52:19,303 --> 00:52:22,339
THEN HE DID IT.
1672
00:52:22,373 --> 00:52:22,973
♪ ALSO KNOWN
1673
00:52:23,007 --> 00:52:24,575
FOR THE FLINTSTONE FLOP ♪
1674
00:52:24,608 --> 00:52:25,876
♪ TAMMY "D" GETS BIZ
1675
00:52:25,909 --> 00:52:26,810
ON THE CROPS ♪
1676
00:52:26,844 --> 00:52:27,611
♪ BEASTIE BOYS
1677
00:52:27,645 --> 00:52:28,979
KNOW TO LET THE BEAT
1678
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:31,215
MMM. . DROP ♪
1679
00:52:31,248 --> 00:52:31,949
♪ NOW WHEN I WROTE GRAFFITI,
1680
00:52:31,982 --> 00:52:33,350
MY NAME WAS SLOP ♪
1681
00:52:33,384 --> 00:52:34,585
♪ IF I RAP SOUP,
1682
00:52:34,618 --> 00:52:35,919
MY BEATS IS STOCK ♪
1683
00:52:35,953 --> 00:52:38,856
I READ IN THE NEWS AND HEARD
1684
00:52:38,889 --> 00:52:41,658
FROM MY FRIENDS ALL ABOUT THE
1685
00:52:41,692 --> 00:52:44,428
SEXUAL ASSAULTS AND THE RAPES
1686
00:52:44,461 --> 00:52:47,464
THAT WENT DOWN AT WOODSTOCK '99.
1687
00:52:47,498 --> 00:52:50,601
IT MADE ME FEEL REALLY SAD AND
1688
00:52:50,634 --> 00:52:51,969
ANGRY, OKAY?
1689
00:52:52,002 --> 00:52:54,004
WHEN HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT
1690
00:52:54,038 --> 00:52:55,806
SOMETHING REAL AMONGST ALL OF
1691
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:57,474
THIS COMPLETELY SUPERFICIAL
1692
00:52:57,508 --> 00:52:59,810
BULLSHIT, THE ROOM JUST . IT
1693
00:52:59,843 --> 00:53:00,911
WAS LIKE. .
1694
00:53:00,944 --> 00:53:02,880
LIKE, EVERYTHING CHANGED.
1695
00:53:02,913 --> 00:53:05,282
THE WHOLE ROOM, IT FELT SO "WHO
1696
00:53:05,315 --> 00:53:06,283
FARTED?"
1697
00:53:06,316 --> 00:53:07,751
LIKE, BEYOND "WHO FARTED?"
1698
00:53:07,785 --> 00:53:08,986
ARE YOU ALL THERE?
1699
00:53:09,019 --> 00:53:10,587
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
1700
00:53:10,621 --> 00:53:11,288
OKAY.
1701
00:53:11,321 --> 00:53:13,257
Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT, WOODSTOCK?
1702
00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:14,992
IT DEFINITELY SUCKED THE PARTY
1703
00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:16,860
OUT OF THE ROOM, THAT'S FOR
1704
00:53:16,894 --> 00:53:17,995
SURE, FOR A MINUTE.
1705
00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:19,997
BUT I'M SURE SOMEBODY GOT UP.
1706
00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:21,832
I'M SURE UNCLE CRACKER GOT UP
1707
00:53:21,865 --> 00:53:23,667
AND PLAYED SOME AWESOME SONG,
1708
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:25,335
AND THE AUDIENCE WAS BACK.
1709
00:53:25,369 --> 00:53:27,471
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
1710
00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:39,049
♪ WHO TOOK THE BOMP?
1711
00:53:39,083 --> 00:53:40,617
KATHLEEN HAD A BASS, AND SHE
1712
00:53:40,651 --> 00:53:42,019
REALLY WANTED TO PLAY DRUMS.
1713
00:53:42,052 --> 00:53:43,487
I HAD BOUGHT A SAMPLER.
1714
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,922
I WAS INTERESTED IN MAKING
1715
00:53:44,955 --> 00:53:46,757
SAMPLE-BASED ELECTRONIC MUSIC.
1716
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:48,425
JO BELIEVED IN ME, SO MUCH
1717
00:53:48,459 --> 00:53:50,060
THAT SHE WENT DOWN IN THIS DINGY
1718
00:53:50,094 --> 00:53:52,062
BASEMENT AND WROTE WITH ME EVERY
1719
00:53:52,096 --> 00:53:52,729
SINGLE DAY.
1720
00:53:52,763 --> 00:53:54,398
THINGS SHIFTED WITH J. D.
1721
00:53:54,431 --> 00:53:55,666
JOINING LE TIGRE.
1722
00:53:55,699 --> 00:53:57,634
I REMEMBER GETTING A CALL
1723
00:53:57,668 --> 00:53:58,335
FROM KATHLEEN.
1724
00:53:58,368 --> 00:54:00,571
SHE WAS LIKE, "WE'RE PRACTICING,
1725
00:54:00,604 --> 00:54:02,673
AND WE WANT TO KNOW IF YOU WANT
1726
00:54:02,706 --> 00:54:06,076
TO DO OUR SLIDES. "
1727
00:54:06,110 --> 00:54:08,045
WE WENT ON, LIKE, A TWO-WEEK
1728
00:54:08,078 --> 00:54:10,314
TOUR OF THE EAST COAST, AND SHE
1729
00:54:10,347 --> 00:54:12,082
WAS, LIKE, "YOU'RE A PERFORMER.
1730
00:54:12,116 --> 00:54:14,451
YOU REALLY NEED TO BE ON STAGE. "
1731
00:54:14,485 --> 00:54:16,520
DURING THAT TOUR, KATHLEEN WAS
1732
00:54:16,553 --> 00:54:18,689
LIKE, "WILL YOU BE IN OUR BAND?"
1733
00:54:18,722 --> 00:54:20,324
AND I WAS LIKE, "YEAH. "
1734
00:54:20,357 --> 00:54:22,793
THE SECOND SHE WAS ON STAGE,
1735
00:54:22,826 --> 00:54:25,095
SHE JUST HAD SUCH A GREAT STAGE
1736
00:54:25,129 --> 00:54:26,063
PRESENCE.
1737
00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:28,632
WE WERE, LIKE, THE FEMINIST
1738
00:54:28,665 --> 00:54:29,733
PARTY BAND.
1739
00:54:29,766 --> 00:54:32,102
OUR WHOLE ETHIC WAS ABOUT MAKING
1740
00:54:32,136 --> 00:54:34,671
SOMETHING THAT HAD POLITICALLY
1741
00:54:34,705 --> 00:54:37,074
RADICAL CONTENT THAT YOU COULD
1742
00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:39,476
DANCE TO.
1743
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:41,378
KATHLEEN'S VOICE WAS
1744
00:54:41,411 --> 00:54:42,379
BEAUTIFUL.
1745
00:54:42,412 --> 00:54:44,882
SHE'S, LIKE, AT THAT PERFECT AGE
1746
00:54:44,915 --> 00:54:47,117
AT THAT POINT TO HAVE, LIKE,
1747
00:54:47,151 --> 00:54:49,419
THIS FULL, RESONANT, AMAZING,
1748
00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:50,787
POWERFUL VOICE.
1749
00:54:50,821 --> 00:54:52,923
LE TIGRE SEEMED LIKE IT WAS MUCH
1750
00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:54,925
MORE SOPHISTICATED AND MATURE.
1751
00:54:54,958 --> 00:54:57,060
IT UNDERSTOOD WHAT PEOPLE NEEDED
1752
00:54:57,094 --> 00:54:58,795
AT THAT TIME, IN TERMS OF
1753
00:54:58,829 --> 00:55:00,864
DANCEABILITY, STILL MAINTAINING
1754
00:55:00,898 --> 00:55:02,933
A REALLY INTERESTING MESSAGE, A
1755
00:55:02,966 --> 00:55:05,002
MESSAGE OF NONCOMPETITION, OF A
1756
00:55:05,035 --> 00:55:06,570
CULTURE OF PRAISE, BUT
1757
00:55:06,603 --> 00:55:08,639
SOPHISTICATED AND UNDERSTANDING
1758
00:55:08,672 --> 00:55:11,141
WHAT A GOOD POP SONG IS.
1759
00:55:11,175 --> 00:55:13,410
BIKINI KILL UNDERSTOOD SONG
1760
00:55:13,443 --> 00:55:15,379
STRUCTURE, TOO, BUT LE TIGRE
1761
00:55:15,412 --> 00:55:17,414
JUST, LIKE, FUCKING NAILED IT.
1762
00:55:17,447 --> 00:55:20,651
♪ COME ON
1763
00:55:20,684 --> 00:55:24,488
♪ OH, OH, OH, OH
1764
00:55:26,623 --> 00:55:28,625
WE DID, LIKE, A REALLY LONG
1765
00:55:28,659 --> 00:55:30,460
TOUR AFTER "THIS ISLAND" WAS
1766
00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:32,396
RELEASED, AND IT WAS LIKE A
1767
00:55:32,429 --> 00:55:34,164
WORLD TOUR, A YEAR AND A HALF.
1768
00:55:34,198 --> 00:55:35,599
WE WENT TO AUSTRALIA.
1769
00:55:35,632 --> 00:55:36,800
WE WENT TO JAPAN.
1770
00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:38,702
WE DID THE U. S. AND EUROPE AND
1771
00:55:38,735 --> 00:55:39,570
EVERYTHING.
1772
00:55:39,603 --> 00:55:40,604
♪ TAKE A GOOD LOOK
1773
00:55:40,637 --> 00:55:42,172
♪ TAKE A PHOTO
1774
00:55:42,206 --> 00:55:43,473
♪ WRITE ABOUT IT
1775
00:55:43,507 --> 00:55:47,411
IN YOUR TINY NOTEBOOK ♪
1776
00:55:47,444 --> 00:55:50,848
♪ DON'T YOU KNOW?
1777
00:55:50,881 --> 00:55:54,651
♪ YOU'RE OUT CO-O-LD
1778
00:55:54,685 --> 00:55:58,055
♪ DON'T YOU KNOW?
1779
00:55:58,088 --> 00:55:59,590
♪ IT'S OUR DANCE FLOOR
1780
00:55:59,623 --> 00:56:01,458
♪ T. K. O.
1781
00:56:01,491 --> 00:56:03,026
♪ HEAR IT ON THE RADIO
1782
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:04,695
♪ T. K. O.
1783
00:56:04,728 --> 00:56:06,830
♪ PLAY IT ON THE STEREO
1784
00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:08,098
♪ T. K. O.
1785
00:56:08,131 --> 00:56:10,167
♪ WATCH A LIVE VIDEO
1786
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,568
♪ T. K. O.
1787
00:56:11,602 --> 00:56:13,203
♪ HEAR IT ON THE RADIO
1788
00:56:13,237 --> 00:56:15,005
♪ T. K. O.
1789
00:56:15,038 --> 00:56:16,940
♪ PLAY IT ON THE STEREO
1790
00:56:16,974 --> 00:56:18,742
♪ T. K. O.
1791
00:56:18,775 --> 00:56:20,210
♪ WATCH A LIVE VIDEO
1792
00:56:20,244 --> 00:56:22,012
♪ T. K. O.
1793
00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:24,581
♪ T. K. O. O.
1794
00:56:24,615 --> 00:56:26,450
LE TIGRE MOVED OUT INTO,
1795
00:56:26,483 --> 00:56:28,585
LIKE, BIGGER AND BIGGER CIRCLES,
1796
00:56:28,619 --> 00:56:30,487
EMBRACED MORE AND MORE OF
1797
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,788
HUMANITY AND ALL THE ISSUES.
1798
00:56:31,822 --> 00:56:33,223
AND WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN TO
1799
00:56:33,257 --> 00:56:34,224
BE A FEMINIST?
1800
00:56:34,258 --> 00:56:35,659
IT MEANS THAT YOU PAY ATTENTION
1801
00:56:35,692 --> 00:56:36,827
TO ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF
1802
00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:38,462
OPPRESSION, AND YOU STAND UP FOR
1803
00:56:38,495 --> 00:56:39,730
ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE
1804
00:56:39,763 --> 00:56:41,498
A VOICE, WHETHER THEY'RE TRANS
1805
00:56:41,531 --> 00:56:43,133
OR PEOPLE OF COLOR OR CLASS,
1806
00:56:43,166 --> 00:56:44,601
RACE, GENDER, SEXUALITY,
1807
00:56:44,635 --> 00:56:45,235
EVERYTHING.
1808
00:56:45,269 --> 00:56:46,670
SHE DID THAT.
1809
00:56:46,703 --> 00:56:48,238
AND THEN, THE NEXT CHALLENGE IS,
1810
00:56:48,272 --> 00:56:50,073
LIKE, HOW DO YOU DO THAT ON A
1811
00:56:50,107 --> 00:56:51,041
PERSONAL LEVEL?
1812
00:56:51,074 --> 00:56:54,778
♪ THE OCEAN CALLS US
1813
00:56:54,811 --> 00:56:57,948
AWAY FROM. . ♪
1814
00:56:57,981 --> 00:57:01,184
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
1815
00:57:01,218 --> 00:57:02,252
ALL THE SUDDEN, IN
1816
00:57:02,286 --> 00:57:04,254
NORTH CAROLINA, I LOST MY VOICE,
1817
00:57:04,288 --> 00:57:05,822
AND AT SOUND CHECK, I LOST
1818
00:57:05,856 --> 00:57:06,456
PITCH.
1819
00:57:06,490 --> 00:57:07,924
I ALWAYS THINK OF IT AS A
1820
00:57:07,958 --> 00:57:09,526
BULLET, KIND OF, LIKE, MY VOICE
1821
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:10,260
IS A BULLET.
1822
00:57:10,294 --> 00:57:11,895
AND THERE'S, LIKE, A NOTE THAT I
1823
00:57:11,928 --> 00:57:13,263
WANT TO HIT THAT'S HERE OR
1824
00:57:13,297 --> 00:57:14,865
THAT'S HERE OR HERE OR WHATEVER,
1825
00:57:14,898 --> 00:57:16,233
AND THEN THE BREATH IS LIKE THE
1826
00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:17,768
BULLET COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH.
1827
00:57:17,801 --> 00:57:19,536
AND IT'S GOING TO HIT THE
1828
00:57:19,569 --> 00:57:20,237
TARGET?
1829
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:22,539
WELL, I WAS LIKE . I COULD GET
1830
00:57:22,572 --> 00:57:24,508
THE BREATH, BUT THEN THE BULLET
1831
00:57:24,541 --> 00:57:26,143
WOULD JUST GO "WAAHHH. "
1832
00:57:26,176 --> 00:57:28,111
LIKE, I COULDN'T HIT THE TARGET.
1833
00:57:28,145 --> 00:57:29,212
I WAS TERRIFIED.
1834
00:57:29,246 --> 00:57:30,647
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
1835
00:57:30,681 --> 00:57:32,683
SO, WE CANCELED THE SHOW IN
1836
00:57:32,716 --> 00:57:34,985
NORTH CAROLINA, AND I WENT BACK
1837
00:57:35,018 --> 00:57:37,220
TO NEW YORK AND FOUND A THROAT
1838
00:57:37,254 --> 00:57:38,255
SPECIALIST.
1839
00:57:38,288 --> 00:57:40,290
IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY TRAUMATIC
1840
00:57:40,324 --> 00:57:42,726
WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE
1841
00:57:42,759 --> 00:57:45,028
IT WAS LIKE SINGING IS MY LIFE,
1842
00:57:45,062 --> 00:57:47,130
LIKE, IT'S EVERYTHING TO ME.
1843
00:57:47,164 --> 00:57:48,031
♪ . IF I WOULD SAY THAT,
1844
00:57:48,065 --> 00:57:50,667
TOO ♪
1845
00:57:50,701 --> 00:57:52,269
♪ I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT
1846
00:57:52,302 --> 00:57:54,104
WHEN YOU HAVE A SORE THROAT, YOU
1847
00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:55,939
HAVE A SORE THROAT, BUT ONCE THE
1848
00:57:55,972 --> 00:57:57,674
ADRENALINE WOULD KICK IN FOR A
1849
00:57:57,708 --> 00:57:59,309
SHOW, I DIDN'T EVER FEEL ANY
1850
00:57:59,343 --> 00:57:59,943
PAIN.
1851
00:57:59,976 --> 00:58:01,311
I NEVER FELT PAIN ONSTAGE,
1852
00:58:01,345 --> 00:58:02,012
EVER.
1853
00:58:02,045 --> 00:58:03,680
NO MATTER HOW BAD I FELT, ONCE I
1854
00:58:03,714 --> 00:58:05,582
WAS ONSTAGE AND THE LIGHTS HIT
1855
00:58:05,615 --> 00:58:10,754
ME, I WAS FINE.
1856
00:58:10,787 --> 00:58:13,090
WHEN I'M PLAYING MUSIC, I DON'T
1857
00:58:13,123 --> 00:58:15,859
FEEL ANYTHING BAD.
1858
00:58:15,892 --> 00:58:21,732
♪ I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT
1859
00:58:21,765 --> 00:58:27,004
♪ I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT
1860
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:43,153
♪ YOU ARE. .
1861
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:45,589
WE WERE SO ENMESHED IN OUR BAND
1862
00:58:45,622 --> 00:58:47,324
THAT THAT'S ALL WE DID.
1863
00:58:47,357 --> 00:58:49,693
IT WAS ALL BAND, BAND, BAND,
1864
00:58:49,726 --> 00:58:52,195
BAND, BAND, AND I'D BEEN IN THAT
1865
00:58:52,229 --> 00:58:54,631
MODE OF EVERY BAND I'D DONE WAS
1866
00:58:54,664 --> 00:58:57,134
JUST A COMPLETE IMMERSION, WHERE
1867
00:58:57,167 --> 00:58:59,870
MY IDENTITY WAS SO WRAPPED UP IN
1868
00:58:59,903 --> 00:59:02,639
MY BANDS THAT IT WASN'T REALLY
1869
00:59:02,672 --> 00:59:03,707
HEALTHY.
1870
00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:04,608
♪ YOU GOT TO KEEP ON
1871
00:59:04,641 --> 00:59:05,609
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1872
00:59:05,642 --> 00:59:07,077
♪ YOU GOT TO KEEP ON
1873
00:59:07,110 --> 00:59:07,978
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1874
00:59:08,011 --> 00:59:09,679
♪ YOU GOT TO KEEP ON
1875
00:59:09,713 --> 00:59:11,982
KATHLEEN STARTED GETTING SICK
1876
00:59:12,015 --> 00:59:14,117
ON TOUR A LOT, WHICH HAPPENS.
1877
00:59:14,151 --> 00:59:15,752
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
1878
00:59:15,786 --> 00:59:18,054
I GET SICK EVERY TOUR, FIRST DAY
1879
00:59:18,088 --> 00:59:19,122
OF THE TOUR.
1880
00:59:19,156 --> 00:59:20,657
IT JUST HAPPENS.
1881
00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:22,359
♪ DISPROPORTIONATE REACTIONS
1882
00:59:22,392 --> 00:59:23,660
JUST WON'T FADE ♪
1883
00:59:23,693 --> 00:59:25,362
I NOTICED HER FEELING
1884
00:59:25,395 --> 00:59:27,397
DEPRESSED MORE THAN ANYTHING,
1885
00:59:27,431 --> 00:59:29,399
AND I THINK I NOTICED HER HAVING
1886
00:59:29,433 --> 00:59:31,768
MORE AND MORE SICKNESS, IN TERMS
1887
00:59:31,802 --> 00:59:33,637
OF, LIKE, LOSING HER VOICE,
1888
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:35,772
GETTING STREP THROAT, WHATEVER.
1889
00:59:35,806 --> 00:59:37,674
AND SHE WAS TAKING ANTIBIOTICS A
1890
00:59:37,707 --> 00:59:38,375
LOT.
1891
00:59:38,408 --> 00:59:39,676
SO, I THINK THAT I DID HAVE SOME
1892
00:59:39,709 --> 00:59:41,378
SORT OF SENSE OF, LIKE, THE FACT
1893
00:59:41,411 --> 00:59:42,412
THAT SHE WASN'T WELL.
1894
00:59:42,446 --> 00:59:43,847
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1895
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,682
♪ YOU GOT TO KEEP ON
1896
00:59:45,715 --> 00:59:46,383
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1897
00:59:46,416 --> 00:59:48,752
I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING
1898
00:59:48,785 --> 00:59:50,120
WRONG, FOR SURE.
1899
00:59:50,153 --> 00:59:51,822
I WAS REALLY WORRIED.
1900
00:59:51,855 --> 00:59:52,789
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1901
00:59:52,823 --> 00:59:54,057
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1902
00:59:54,091 --> 00:59:55,425
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1903
00:59:55,459 --> 00:59:56,760
♪ YOU GOT TO KEEP ON LIVIN'
1904
00:59:56,793 --> 00:59:59,062
♪ KEEP ON LIVIN'
1905
00:59:59,095 --> 01:00:03,266
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
1906
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:05,168
I STRUGGLED THROUGH THE
1907
01:00:05,202 --> 01:00:07,404
LE TIGRE TOUR DATES THAT WE HAD
1908
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,439
AND EVERYTHING WE HAD PLANNED
1909
01:00:09,473 --> 01:00:10,774
AND FINISHED IT.
1910
01:00:10,807 --> 01:00:11,708
WHOO!
1911
01:00:11,741 --> 01:00:13,443
THANK YOU, GUYS!
1912
01:00:13,477 --> 01:00:16,213
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
1913
01:00:21,785 --> 01:00:23,720
I SAT DOWN WITH JO AND J. D. AND
1914
01:00:23,753 --> 01:00:25,789
SAID, "I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE. "
1915
01:00:25,822 --> 01:00:27,691
WE ALL HAD LUNCH ONE DAY, AND
1916
01:00:27,724 --> 01:00:29,426
IT WAS KIND OF JUST, LIKE, WE
1917
01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:31,061
ALL KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS
1918
01:00:31,094 --> 01:00:32,729
GONNA HAPPEN, BUT WE WEREN'T
1919
01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:33,463
SURE WHAT.
1920
01:00:33,497 --> 01:00:35,165
AND KATHLEEN WAS LIKE, "I DON'T
1921
01:00:35,198 --> 01:00:36,733
WANT TO DO THIS ANYMORE. "
1922
01:00:36,766 --> 01:00:38,168
I KIND OF FELT, LIKE, SPENT
1923
01:00:38,201 --> 01:00:39,436
IN TERMS OF WRITING SONGS.
1924
01:00:39,469 --> 01:00:40,871
I FELT LIKE I HAD SAID
1925
01:00:40,904 --> 01:00:42,439
EVERYTHING I HAD TO SAY UP TO
1926
01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:43,173
THAT POINT.
1927
01:00:43,206 --> 01:00:47,711
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
1928
01:00:47,744 --> 01:00:50,013
OUR LAST REAL HEADLINING SHOW
1929
01:00:50,046 --> 01:00:52,282
WAS AT WEBSTER HALL IN NEW YORK.
1930
01:00:52,315 --> 01:00:54,684
[ CHEERING CONTINUES ]
1931
01:01:29,553 --> 01:01:31,388
I LIED WHEN I SAID I WAS
1932
01:01:31,421 --> 01:01:31,955
DONE.
1933
01:01:31,988 --> 01:01:33,290
I KNEW I WASN'T DONE.
1934
01:01:33,323 --> 01:01:35,158
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO FACE THE
1935
01:01:35,191 --> 01:01:36,927
FACT THAT I WAS REALLY SICK.
1936
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,329
I WANTED TO HAVE CONTROL OVER
1937
01:01:39,362 --> 01:01:39,996
IT.
1938
01:01:40,030 --> 01:01:42,198
I WANTED TO TELL EVERYBODY I
1939
01:01:42,232 --> 01:01:43,533
CHOSE TO STOP.
1940
01:01:43,567 --> 01:01:44,234
[ Voice breaking ] BUT I
1941
01:01:44,267 --> 01:01:45,535
DIDN'T . I DIDN'T . I DIDN'T
1942
01:01:45,569 --> 01:01:46,836
CHOOSE.
1943
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:49,506
I WAS TOLD BY MY BODY I HAD TO
1944
01:01:49,539 --> 01:01:52,409
STOP.
1945
01:01:52,442 --> 01:01:54,811
BUT THAT WAS REALLY PAINFUL FOR
1946
01:01:54,844 --> 01:01:56,980
ME TO BE TOLD BY ANYBODY OR
1947
01:01:57,013 --> 01:01:58,982
ANYTHING WHAT I COULD AND
1948
01:01:59,015 --> 01:02:00,116
COULDN'T DO.
1949
01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:03,386
SO, I TOLD MYSELF AND TOLD MY
1950
01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:06,556
BANDMATES AND TOLD MY HUSBAND
1951
01:02:06,590 --> 01:02:10,226
AND TOLD THE WORLD THAT I CHOSE
1952
01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:12,562
TO STOP PLAYING MUSIC BECAUSE I
1953
01:02:12,596 --> 01:02:14,564
HAD NOTHING ELSE TO SAY. .
1954
01:02:14,598 --> 01:02:18,401
BECAUSE THAT FELT BETTER TO ME
1955
01:02:18,435 --> 01:02:19,903
THAN BEING IN TOUCH WITH THE
1956
01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:21,438
FACT THAT I MIGHT NOT EVER BE
1957
01:02:21,471 --> 01:02:23,106
ABLE TO DO THE THING I LOVE MORE
1958
01:02:23,139 --> 01:02:25,976
THAN ANYTHING IN THE WORLD.
1959
01:02:38,088 --> 01:02:40,790
[ INSECTS CHIRPING ]
1960
01:02:59,209 --> 01:03:00,910
WE WERE SEEING JUST, LIKE,
1961
01:03:00,944 --> 01:03:02,512
ALL THESE DIFFERENT DOCTORS,
1962
01:03:02,545 --> 01:03:03,947
TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
1963
01:03:03,980 --> 01:03:05,849
AND THEY WERE TELLING HER ALL
1964
01:03:05,882 --> 01:03:07,517
THIS DIFFERENT STUFF, AND THEY
1965
01:03:07,550 --> 01:03:08,952
WERE DOING ALL KINDS OF
1966
01:03:08,985 --> 01:03:10,387
FUCKED-UP, CRAZY TESTS.
1967
01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:12,022
THEY WERE LIKE . SHE HAD SOME
1968
01:03:12,055 --> 01:03:13,423
WEIRD EYE THING, AND THE
1969
01:03:13,456 --> 01:03:15,058
DOCTOR'S LIKE, "OH, YEAH, IT'S
1970
01:03:15,091 --> 01:03:19,329
PROBABLY LUPUS, OR IT COULD BE
1971
01:03:19,362 --> 01:03:20,563
M. S. "
1972
01:03:20,597 --> 01:03:21,931
JUST LIKE ALL THIS FUCKING CRAZY
1973
01:03:21,965 --> 01:03:23,233
SHIT, AND YOU'RE LIKE, "WHAT?!"
1974
01:03:23,266 --> 01:03:27,303
2008, THE ILLNESSES TOOK A
1975
01:03:27,337 --> 01:03:30,073
REALLY WEIRD TURN.
1976
01:03:30,106 --> 01:03:32,442
SEX EDUCATION THROUGH. .
1977
01:03:32,475 --> 01:03:33,510
I WENT TO THE
1978
01:03:33,543 --> 01:03:34,978
PLANNED PARENTHOOD MARCH.
1979
01:03:35,011 --> 01:03:36,346
I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE.
1980
01:03:36,379 --> 01:03:38,148
I WAS HAVING LANGUAGE PROBLEMS.
1981
01:03:38,181 --> 01:03:40,650
OUR NEXT SPEAKER WAS THE LEAD
1982
01:03:40,684 --> 01:03:42,519
SINGER FOR BIKINI KILL.
1983
01:03:42,552 --> 01:03:47,424
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
1984
01:03:47,457 --> 01:03:49,993
I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE TO SAY
1985
01:03:50,026 --> 01:03:51,361
ANYTHING ELSE.
1986
01:03:51,394 --> 01:03:53,930
AND LE TIGRE AND THE CO-FOUNDER
1987
01:03:53,963 --> 01:03:56,199
OF THE RIOT GRRRL MOVEMENT.
1988
01:03:56,232 --> 01:03:58,601
[ CHEERING CONTINUES ]
1989
01:03:58,635 --> 01:04:01,204
I COULDN'T HEAR OUT OF THE
1990
01:04:01,237 --> 01:04:04,007
ONE EAR, AND I WAS, LIKE, REALLY
1991
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,510
STRUGGLING.
1992
01:04:07,544 --> 01:04:09,679
ALL THE SUDDEN, THE SOUND
1993
01:04:09,713 --> 01:04:11,681
CHANGES IN YOUR HEAD.
1994
01:04:11,715 --> 01:04:13,450
I THOUGHT I WAS HAVING A STROKE.
1995
01:04:13,483 --> 01:04:14,350
I COULDN'T TALK.
1996
01:04:14,384 --> 01:04:15,585
I COULDN'T COMMUNICATE.
1997
01:04:15,618 --> 01:04:17,087
AND I WAS SLURRING, LIKE I WAS
1998
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,288
DRUNK.
1999
01:04:18,321 --> 01:04:19,522
ONE SIDE OF MY BODY FELT NUMB.
2000
01:04:19,556 --> 01:04:21,324
THE PARAMEDICS THOUGHT THAT I
2001
01:04:21,357 --> 01:04:22,959
HAD A MINOR HEART ATTACK.
2002
01:04:22,992 --> 01:04:24,694
WHEN I GOT TO THE HOSPITAL, THE
2003
01:04:24,728 --> 01:04:26,529
DOCTOR ASKED ME FOR ALL MY
2004
01:04:26,563 --> 01:04:28,398
SYMPTOMS, AND AT THAT POINT, I
2005
01:04:28,431 --> 01:04:30,266
WAS LIKE, "I'M NOT GONNA LIE. "
2006
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:31,401
I JUST WAS LIKE, "FUCK IT.
2007
01:04:31,434 --> 01:04:32,335
I'M IN THE HOSPITAL.
2008
01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:33,603
I'M JUST GONNA TELL THIS WOMAN
2009
01:04:33,636 --> 01:04:34,304
EVERYTHING. "
2010
01:04:34,337 --> 01:04:36,973
SHE WAS JUST LIKE, "YEAH, YOU'RE
2011
01:04:37,006 --> 01:04:39,342
JUST HAVING A PANIC ATTACK,
2012
01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:42,011
BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU
2013
01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:44,447
COULD BE HAVING NEUROLOGICAL
2014
01:04:44,481 --> 01:04:47,183
STUFF AND BREATHING DIFFICULTIES
2015
01:04:47,217 --> 01:04:48,551
AND THE STOMACH STUFF. "
2016
01:04:48,585 --> 01:04:50,320
SHE WAS LIKE, "THERE'S TOO MANY
2017
01:04:50,353 --> 01:04:52,122
BODY SYSTEMS TO BE INVOLVED, AND
2018
01:04:52,155 --> 01:04:53,723
THERE'S NO ILLNESS THAT HAS ALL
2019
01:04:53,757 --> 01:04:57,227
THOSE BODY SYSTEMS INVOLVED. "
2020
01:04:57,260 --> 01:05:00,130
[ BIRDS CHIRPING ]
2021
01:05:00,163 --> 01:05:01,965
TO BE LIVING WITH SOMETHING AND
2022
01:05:01,998 --> 01:05:03,533
NOT KNOWING WHAT IT IS, IS
2023
01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:06,569
REALLY TERRIFYING.
2024
01:05:24,554 --> 01:05:26,689
I HAVE LATE-STAGE LYME DISEASE,
2025
01:05:26,723 --> 01:05:28,191
WHICH MEANS I'VE HAD
2026
01:05:28,224 --> 01:05:30,126
LYME DISEASE FOR . NOW FOR
2027
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,595
ABOUT SIX YEARS.
2028
01:05:38,635 --> 01:05:41,070
WHEN SHE CAME TO SEE ME, SHE
2029
01:05:41,104 --> 01:05:43,273
HAD BEEN ILL FOR ABOUT FIVE
2030
01:05:43,306 --> 01:05:43,973
YEARS.
2031
01:05:44,007 --> 01:05:46,409
SHE ACTUALLY RECALLED THAT SHE
2032
01:05:46,442 --> 01:05:48,778
HAD BEEN BITTEN BY A TICK BACK
2033
01:05:48,812 --> 01:05:49,712
IN 2005.
2034
01:05:49,746 --> 01:05:51,314
AND, IN FACT, GOING THROUGH HER
2035
01:05:51,347 --> 01:05:52,782
HISTORY, SHE HAD BEEN TREATED
2036
01:05:52,816 --> 01:05:55,618
FOR LYME DISEASE.
2037
01:05:55,652 --> 01:05:57,420
I TOOK ANTIBIOTICS FOR THREE
2038
01:05:57,453 --> 01:05:58,555
WEEKS AFTERWARDS.
2039
01:05:58,588 --> 01:06:00,223
SO, WHEN I GOT SICK LATER, I
2040
01:06:00,256 --> 01:06:01,658
NEVER ASSOCIATED IT WITH
2041
01:06:01,691 --> 01:06:02,592
LYME DISEASE.
2042
01:06:02,625 --> 01:06:04,460
AND WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME
2043
01:06:04,494 --> 01:06:06,062
BY DIFFERENT SPECIALISTS, I
2044
01:06:06,095 --> 01:06:07,764
SAID, "I ALREADY TOOK THE TEST. "
2045
01:06:07,797 --> 01:06:09,766
YOU KNOW, I WOULD PULL OUT MY
2046
01:06:09,799 --> 01:06:11,734
SHITTY ELISA TEST THAT'S, LIKE,
2047
01:06:11,768 --> 01:06:13,670
THE $20 TEST THAT THE INSURANCE
2048
01:06:13,703 --> 01:06:15,605
COMPANY WANTS YOU TO TAKE, SHOW
2049
01:06:15,638 --> 01:06:17,574
IT TO DOCTORS, AND NOBODY SAID,
2050
01:06:17,607 --> 01:06:19,475
"OH, THAT'S ACTUALLY A CRAPPY,
2051
01:06:19,509 --> 01:06:21,077
TOTALLY UNRELIABLE TEST. "
2052
01:06:21,110 --> 01:06:22,812
BUT EVENTUALLY I GOT A TEST
2053
01:06:22,846 --> 01:06:24,714
CALLED THE WESTERN BLOT TEST,
2054
01:06:24,747 --> 01:06:26,616
AND IT LIT UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS
2055
01:06:26,649 --> 01:06:28,418
TREE.
2056
01:06:28,451 --> 01:06:30,220
IT'S LIKE IF YOU WERE
2057
01:06:30,253 --> 01:06:31,821
SUPERMAN, AND YOU MET
2058
01:06:31,855 --> 01:06:32,789
KRYPTONITE.
2059
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:34,791
THAT'S WHAT LYME DISEASE IS
2060
01:06:34,824 --> 01:06:35,425
LIKE.
2061
01:06:35,458 --> 01:06:39,329
I GOT TO TAKE MY PILLS.
2062
01:06:39,362 --> 01:06:40,697
WHEN YOU START TREATING
2063
01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:42,332
SOMEONE WITH LYME DISEASE, THAT
2064
01:06:42,365 --> 01:06:43,833
PERSON MIGHT GET WORSE BEFORE
2065
01:06:43,867 --> 01:06:44,767
THEY GET BETTER.
2066
01:06:44,801 --> 01:06:46,703
IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU WAKE THE
2067
01:06:46,736 --> 01:06:48,705
SLEEPING GIANT WHEN YOU USE THE
2068
01:06:48,738 --> 01:06:50,573
ANTIBIOTIC, AND THE INFECTION
2069
01:06:50,607 --> 01:06:53,810
KICKS BACK EVEN HARDER.
2070
01:06:57,413 --> 01:07:00,149
I JUST TOOK MY MEDICATION AN
2071
01:07:00,183 --> 01:07:05,088
HOUR AGO.
2072
01:07:05,121 --> 01:07:05,822
AND. .
2073
01:07:05,855 --> 01:07:08,791
I GUESS I'M HAVING A REACTION
2074
01:07:08,825 --> 01:07:13,529
NOW TO THE. .
2075
01:07:13,563 --> 01:07:15,298
INFECTION AND THE MEDICATION
2076
01:07:15,331 --> 01:07:18,868
MEETING UP OR SOMETHING.
2077
01:07:18,902 --> 01:07:21,704
I'M FILMING THIS KIND OF BECAUSE
2078
01:07:21,738 --> 01:07:24,440
IN MY MOVIE, IN THE MOVIE ABOUT
2079
01:07:24,474 --> 01:07:28,745
ME, I TALK ABOUT HAVING THIS
2080
01:07:28,778 --> 01:07:33,549
DISEASE AND, UM, HOW IT MAKES IT
2081
01:07:33,583 --> 01:07:35,485
SO I CAN'T DO THINGS.
2082
01:07:35,518 --> 01:07:38,154
AND, OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T BE ON
2083
01:07:38,187 --> 01:07:40,123
STAGE WHEN I'M LIKE THIS, AND
2084
01:07:40,156 --> 01:07:41,891
THIS IS ME WHEN IT'S BAD AS IT
2085
01:07:41,925 --> 01:07:42,392
GETS.
2086
01:07:42,425 --> 01:07:45,728
DO I LOOK NORMAL?
2087
01:07:45,762 --> 01:07:47,864
NO.
2088
01:07:47,897 --> 01:07:50,266
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T FEEL NORMAL
2089
01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:52,702
RIGHT NOW.
2090
01:07:52,735 --> 01:07:54,470
BUT. .
2091
01:07:54,504 --> 01:07:57,840
I WANT TO SHOW WHAT IT'S LIKE,
2092
01:07:57,874 --> 01:08:00,910
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET
2093
01:08:00,944 --> 01:08:02,679
MISDIAGNOSED.
2094
01:08:02,712 --> 01:08:04,180
LIKE, I WAS MISDIAGNOSED FOR
2095
01:08:04,213 --> 01:08:04,914
FIVE YEARS.
2096
01:08:04,948 --> 01:08:07,150
IT INVADES, LIKE, EVERY PART OF
2097
01:08:07,183 --> 01:08:08,918
YOUR BODY, AND THEN, WHEN YOU
2098
01:08:08,952 --> 01:08:10,920
TRY TO GET RID OF IT, YOU HAVE
2099
01:08:10,954 --> 01:08:12,655
THESE REALLY FUCKED-UP
2100
01:08:12,689 --> 01:08:14,757
REACTIONS, AND YOU CAN'T CONTROL
2101
01:08:14,791 --> 01:08:17,860
YOUR BODY OR YOUR SPEECH, AND
2102
01:08:17,894 --> 01:08:20,530
IT'S REAL UNCOMFORTABLE.
2103
01:08:20,563 --> 01:08:24,934
SO, IT'S SOMETHING THAT. .
2104
01:08:24,968 --> 01:08:28,938
[ CRYING ]
2105
01:08:28,972 --> 01:08:32,175
THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR NOW.
2106
01:08:32,208 --> 01:08:33,710
WE'LL GET A SEIZURE LATER.
2107
01:08:33,743 --> 01:08:35,445
I'M SURE I'LL GET A SEIZURE
2108
01:08:35,478 --> 01:08:36,145
LATER.
2109
01:08:36,179 --> 01:08:37,880
I THINK WE SHOULD DO A FEW
2110
01:08:37,914 --> 01:08:38,748
MORE TAKES.
2111
01:08:38,781 --> 01:08:39,949
[ LAUGHS ]
2112
01:08:39,983 --> 01:08:42,652
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY
2113
01:08:42,685 --> 01:08:44,787
SAW HER AT HER SICKEST.
2114
01:08:44,821 --> 01:08:47,223
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HER AND
2115
01:08:47,256 --> 01:08:50,226
ADAM.
2116
01:08:53,529 --> 01:08:56,766
MORE STRESSED OUT THAN I'VE
2117
01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:58,935
BEEN IN A LONG TIME.
2118
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:02,739
SHIT IS CRAZY.
2119
01:09:02,772 --> 01:09:04,540
WHEN YOU HAVE AN ILLNESS LIKE
2120
01:09:04,574 --> 01:09:06,376
THIS, IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN IT TO
2121
01:09:06,409 --> 01:09:07,076
OTHER PEOPLE.
2122
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:08,911
THE EXPECTATION OUT THERE IS,
2123
01:09:08,945 --> 01:09:10,747
"OKAY, SO, YOU HAD LYME DISEASE.
2124
01:09:10,780 --> 01:09:11,981
YOU TOOK ANTIBIOTICS.
2125
01:09:12,015 --> 01:09:13,349
YOU SHOULD BE BETTER. "
2126
01:09:13,383 --> 01:09:15,218
WHEN YOU'VE HAD IT FOR FIVE
2127
01:09:15,251 --> 01:09:16,652
YEARS, AND IT HASN'T BEEN
2128
01:09:16,686 --> 01:09:18,588
TREATED, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE
2129
01:09:18,621 --> 01:09:19,822
WAY THAT IT WORKS.
2130
01:09:19,856 --> 01:09:21,924
SHE NEVER TALKED ABOUT HER
2131
01:09:21,958 --> 01:09:23,993
HEALTH OR THE PAIN SHE WAS IN OR
2132
01:09:24,027 --> 01:09:25,228
ANYTHING.
2133
01:09:26,929 --> 01:09:29,699
I DIDN'T KNOW FOR A LONG
2134
01:09:29,732 --> 01:09:30,400
TIME.
2135
01:09:30,433 --> 01:09:33,603
PEOPLE WHO RUN AROUND BEING
2136
01:09:33,636 --> 01:09:36,739
HEROES ACT LIKE THEY DON'T NEED
2137
01:09:36,773 --> 01:09:37,407
HELP.
2138
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:38,574
THAT'S THE NATURE OF BEING A
2139
01:09:38,608 --> 01:09:39,976
HERO IS YOU DON'T NEED HELP.
2140
01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:40,977
YOU'RE THE HELPER.
2141
01:09:41,010 --> 01:09:44,680
THERE ARE MOMENTS WHERE SHE
2142
01:09:44,714 --> 01:09:48,584
KNOWS THAT SHE CAN ASK FOR HELP.
2143
01:09:48,618 --> 01:09:50,019
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S
2144
01:09:50,053 --> 01:09:51,921
NECESSARILY AN ORGANIC THING FOR
2145
01:09:51,954 --> 01:09:54,824
HER.
2146
01:10:02,832 --> 01:10:04,734
I REALIZED I WANTED TO WRITE
2147
01:10:04,767 --> 01:10:06,702
A RECORD WHEN I STARTED GETTING
2148
01:10:06,736 --> 01:10:08,538
SICKER AND SICKER AND SICKER,
2149
01:10:08,571 --> 01:10:11,040
'CAUSE ONCE, LIKE, I REALLY WAS
2150
01:10:11,074 --> 01:10:13,943
PRETTY SURE I COULDN'T DO IT, I
2151
01:10:13,976 --> 01:10:15,611
REALLY WANTED IT.
2152
01:10:15,645 --> 01:10:17,280
THE THING THAT MADE ME CHANGE OR
2153
01:10:17,313 --> 01:10:18,915
FACE IT WAS THAT MY ILLNESS WAS
2154
01:10:18,948 --> 01:10:20,283
NOT ONLY AFFECTING ME.
2155
01:10:20,316 --> 01:10:21,784
IT WAS AFFECTING THE PEOPLE THAT
2156
01:10:21,818 --> 01:10:22,485
I LOVE.
2157
01:10:22,518 --> 01:10:24,287
I WORKED AT A DOMESTIC-VIOLENT
2158
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,755
SHELTER, AND I REMEMBER WOMEN
2159
01:10:25,788 --> 01:10:27,390
ALL THE TIME SAYING, "I COULD
2160
01:10:27,423 --> 01:10:28,958
TAKE IT, BUT WHEN HE STARTED
2161
01:10:28,991 --> 01:10:30,693
ABUSING THE KIDS, I PICKED THEM
2162
01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:31,561
UP AND LEFT. "
2163
01:10:31,594 --> 01:10:32,261
THEY WERE, LIKE, TOTALLY
2164
01:10:32,295 --> 01:10:33,496
PROTECTIVE OF THEIR CHILDREN,
2165
01:10:33,529 --> 01:10:34,564
BUT THEY WEREN'T PROTECTIVE OF
2166
01:10:34,597 --> 01:10:35,264
THEMSELVES.
2167
01:10:35,298 --> 01:10:36,799
WHEN I SAW IT AFFECTING JO, HOW
2168
01:10:36,833 --> 01:10:38,534
BAD IT AFFECTED JO AND J. D. AND
2169
01:10:38,568 --> 01:10:40,069
ADAM, AND I WAS LIKE, "IT'S NOT
2170
01:10:40,103 --> 01:10:42,038
HELPING THEM THAT I'M MINIMIZING
2171
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:42,738
THIS. "
2172
01:10:42,772 --> 01:10:44,040
IT WAS JUST SO MUCH EASIER ON
2173
01:10:44,073 --> 01:10:45,908
EVERYBODY IF I JUST FACED WHAT
2174
01:10:45,942 --> 01:10:47,577
WAS HAPPENING, STOPPED BLAMING
2175
01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:49,078
MYSELF, AND FUCKING DEALT WITH
2176
01:10:49,112 --> 01:10:51,814
IT.
2177
01:10:57,386 --> 01:10:59,088
I CALL MY NEW BAND
2178
01:10:59,122 --> 01:11:01,858
THE JULIE RUIN BECAUSE IT'S KIND
2179
01:11:01,891 --> 01:11:04,093
OF AN OUTGROWTH OF THE SOLO
2180
01:11:04,127 --> 01:11:06,062
PROJECT I DID IN '99.
2181
01:11:06,095 --> 01:11:07,730
IT'S REALLY JUST DIFFERENT IN
2182
01:11:07,763 --> 01:11:09,365
THAT I'M NOT TRYING TO WRITE
2183
01:11:09,398 --> 01:11:10,333
ANTHEMS OR ANYTHING.
2184
01:11:10,366 --> 01:11:11,701
I'M JUST WRITING SONGS AND
2185
01:11:11,734 --> 01:11:13,102
LETTING THEM BE WHAT THEY WANT
2186
01:11:13,136 --> 01:11:16,372
TO BE.
2187
01:11:25,014 --> 01:11:27,617
[ BELLS JINGLING ]
2188
01:11:29,152 --> 01:11:31,120
♪ DON'T GO AWAY
2189
01:11:31,154 --> 01:11:35,558
♪ DON'T GO AWAY
2190
01:11:35,591 --> 01:11:37,360
I FEEL EMBARRASSED WHEN
2191
01:11:37,393 --> 01:11:39,095
PEOPLE COME UP AND TELL ME THAT
2192
01:11:39,128 --> 01:11:40,897
I MATTER TO THEM OR SOMETHING
2193
01:11:40,930 --> 01:11:42,799
LIKE THAT AND SORT OF LIKE HAVE
2194
01:11:42,832 --> 01:11:44,567
ALL THESE PEOPLE PUT ON THIS
2195
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,135
SHOW AND, LIKE, DO COVERS OF
2196
01:11:46,169 --> 01:11:47,670
SONGS THAT I'VE SUNG.
2197
01:11:47,703 --> 01:11:49,639
IT FEELS, LIKE, OVERWHELMING AND
2198
01:11:49,672 --> 01:11:50,873
HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO
2199
01:11:50,907 --> 01:11:51,574
GRASP IT.
2200
01:11:51,607 --> 01:11:53,476
JUST ALL I'VE BEEN THROUGH OVER
2201
01:11:53,509 --> 01:11:55,511
THE PAST FEW YEARS IN GETTING MY
2202
01:11:55,545 --> 01:11:57,513
DIAGNOSIS SO CLOSE TO THE SHOW.
2203
01:11:57,547 --> 01:11:59,115
IT'S JUST WHEN I WAS REALLY
2204
01:11:59,148 --> 01:12:01,150
SICK, I WOULD SIT AROUND AND BE,
2205
01:12:01,184 --> 01:12:03,085
LIKE, IMAGINE PEOPLE BEING
2206
01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:05,054
SUPPORTIVE AND LOVING, 'CAUSE I
2207
01:12:05,087 --> 01:12:06,722
NEVER LET THAT IN BEFORE.
2208
01:12:06,756 --> 01:12:08,558
AND I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO DO
2209
01:12:08,591 --> 01:12:10,493
THAT BECAUSE I WAS SO SICK FOR
2210
01:12:10,526 --> 01:12:11,394
FIVE YEARS.
2211
01:12:11,427 --> 01:12:13,029
AND NOW IT'S, LIKE, GONNA BE
2212
01:12:13,062 --> 01:12:14,664
PHYSICAL, LIKE, I'M ACTUALLY
2213
01:12:14,697 --> 01:12:16,465
GONNA GO TO THIS PLACE, AND ALL
2214
01:12:16,499 --> 01:12:18,100
THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA BE
2215
01:12:18,134 --> 01:12:19,702
TOTALLY LOVING AND SUPPORTING
2216
01:12:19,735 --> 01:12:20,102
ME.
2217
01:12:20,136 --> 01:12:20,836
AND IT'S. .
2218
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:21,637
[ SNIFFLES ]
2219
01:12:21,671 --> 01:12:22,839
IT'S OVERWHELMING.
2220
01:12:22,872 --> 01:12:24,173
WITH THE ILLNESS STUFF, IT MEANS
2221
01:12:24,207 --> 01:12:25,775
THIS EXTRA THING THAT ONLY MY
2222
01:12:25,808 --> 01:12:26,776
FRIENDS KNOW ABOUT.
2223
01:12:26,809 --> 01:12:29,178
SO, IT'S WEIRD TO BE GOING TO
2224
01:12:29,212 --> 01:12:32,148
THIS PUBLIC EVENT, WHERE, LIKE,
2225
01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:34,750
PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT
2226
01:12:34,784 --> 01:12:36,552
I'VE BEEN THROUGH.
2227
01:12:39,589 --> 01:12:42,458
YEAH.
2228
01:12:45,595 --> 01:12:46,996
IS EVERYTHING TURNED OFF THAT
2229
01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:48,431
NOTHING'S GONNA BLOW UP?
2230
01:12:48,464 --> 01:12:52,702
♪ IS IT SOMETHING INESSENTIAL
2231
01:12:52,735 --> 01:12:57,106
WHEN I CANNOT HEAR YOU TALK? ♪
2232
01:12:57,139 --> 01:13:02,912
♪ IS IT SOMETHING SENTIMENTAL?
2233
01:13:02,945 --> 01:13:09,485
OVER HERE, OVER HERE.
2234
01:13:09,518 --> 01:13:11,888
[ ROCK MUSIC PLAYS ]
2235
01:13:11,921 --> 01:13:12,855
♪ DOUBLE DARE YA
2236
01:13:12,888 --> 01:13:14,223
♪ DOUBLE DARE YA
2237
01:13:14,257 --> 01:13:15,491
♪ DOUBLE, TRIPLE
2238
01:13:15,524 --> 01:13:17,226
FUCKING DARE YA, GIRLFRIEND ♪
2239
01:13:17,260 --> 01:13:18,461
♪ DOUBLE DARE YA
2240
01:13:18,494 --> 01:13:19,896
♪ DOUBLE DARE YA
2241
01:13:19,929 --> 01:13:23,165
♪ DOUBLE DARE YA, GIRL
2242
01:13:46,789 --> 01:13:49,191
I JUST WANT TO READ THIS VERY
2243
01:13:49,225 --> 01:13:51,160
SPECIAL TEXT BY KATHLEEN.
2244
01:13:51,193 --> 01:13:53,195
THIS IS CALLED "RIOT GRRRL
2245
01:13:53,229 --> 01:13:54,230
MANIFESTO. "
2246
01:13:54,263 --> 01:13:56,666
"BECAUSE US GIRLS CRAVE RECORDS
2247
01:13:56,699 --> 01:13:58,768
AND BOOKS AND FANZINES THAT
2248
01:13:58,801 --> 01:14:00,736
SPEAK TO US, THAT WE FEEL
2249
01:14:00,770 --> 01:14:03,005
INCLUDED IN AND CAN UNDERSTAND
2250
01:14:03,039 --> 01:14:05,041
IN OUR OWN WAYS, BECAUSE I
2251
01:14:05,074 --> 01:14:07,209
BELIEVE WITH MY WHOLE HEART,
2252
01:14:07,243 --> 01:14:08,978
MIND, BODY THAT GRRRLS
2253
01:14:09,011 --> 01:14:11,514
CONSTITUTE A REVOLUTIONARY SOUL
2254
01:14:11,547 --> 01:14:13,983
FORCE THAT CAN AND WILL CHANGE
2255
01:14:14,016 --> 01:14:15,785
THE WORLD FOR REAL. "
2256
01:14:15,818 --> 01:14:17,286
[ CROWD CHEERS ]
2257
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,824
THANK YOU, KATHLEEN HANNA!
2258
01:14:21,857 --> 01:14:25,027
ALL RIGHT, KIDS, ARE YOU
2259
01:14:25,061 --> 01:14:30,833
READY?!
2260
01:14:30,866 --> 01:14:34,637
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE
2261
01:14:34,670 --> 01:14:36,672
JULIE RUIN!
2262
01:14:36,706 --> 01:14:39,275
[ CHEERING CONTINUES ]
2263
01:14:43,813 --> 01:14:45,181
HEY, EVERYBODY.
2264
01:14:45,214 --> 01:14:47,216
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
2265
01:14:47,249 --> 01:14:49,318
THIS IS A REALLY SPECIAL NIGHT
2266
01:14:49,352 --> 01:14:50,019
FOR ME.
2267
01:14:50,052 --> 01:14:51,287
SO, WE'RE THE JULIE RUIN, AND
2268
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,722
WE'RE WRITING A NEW ALBUM.
2269
01:14:52,755 --> 01:14:53,723
ARE YOU GUYS READY?
2270
01:14:53,756 --> 01:14:56,025
YEAH.
2271
01:14:56,058 --> 01:14:58,928
[ UP-TEMPO INTRODUCTION PLAYS ]
2272
01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:05,935
WHAT IS THE STORY OF MY LIFE?
2273
01:15:05,968 --> 01:15:09,004
I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA.
2274
01:15:09,038 --> 01:15:11,173
I JUST THINK THERE'S THIS
2275
01:15:11,207 --> 01:15:13,676
CERTAIN ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN A
2276
01:15:13,709 --> 01:15:16,112
MAN TELLS THE TRUTH, IT'S THE
2277
01:15:16,145 --> 01:15:16,812
TRUTH.
2278
01:15:16,846 --> 01:15:19,115
AND WHEN AS A WOMAN I GO TO TELL
2279
01:15:19,148 --> 01:15:21,350
THE TRUTH, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO
2280
01:15:21,384 --> 01:15:23,152
NEGOTIATE THE WAY I'LL BE
2281
01:15:23,185 --> 01:15:23,853
PERCEIVED.
2282
01:15:23,886 --> 01:15:26,255
LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS
2283
01:15:26,288 --> 01:15:28,357
THE SUSPICION AROUND A WOMEN'S
2284
01:15:28,391 --> 01:15:30,326
TRUTH, THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE
2285
01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:35,297
EXAGGERATING.
2286
01:15:35,331 --> 01:15:37,099
I DON'T JUST SIT THERE AND BE
2287
01:15:37,133 --> 01:15:38,934
LIKE, "THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS,
2288
01:15:38,968 --> 01:15:39,635
THIS. "
2289
01:15:39,668 --> 01:15:41,637
THERE'S THIS WHOLE FEAR THAT I'M
2290
01:15:41,670 --> 01:15:43,105
GONNA HAVE FINALLY FUCKING
2291
01:15:43,139 --> 01:15:44,874
STEPPED TO THE PLATE AND TOLD
2292
01:15:44,907 --> 01:15:46,776
THE TRUTH, AND SOMEONE'S GONNA
2293
01:15:46,809 --> 01:15:48,644
SAY, "EH, I DON'T THINK SO. "
2294
01:15:48,677 --> 01:15:51,981
♪ AR-AR-AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
2295
01:15:56,152 --> 01:15:57,686
IF I WOULDN'T HAVE ADMITTED TO
2296
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,888
MYSELF THAT, LIKE, THE
2297
01:15:58,921 --> 01:16:00,389
SEXUAL-ABUSE STUFF THAT HAPPENED
2298
01:16:00,423 --> 01:16:01,991
IN MY LIFE, IT WASN'T JUST,
2299
01:16:02,024 --> 01:16:03,359
LIKE, ONE THING THAT HAPPENED
2300
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:05,094
WHEN I WAS LITTLE AND ALSO HOW
2301
01:16:05,127 --> 01:16:06,362
MY DAD TREATED ME AND BLAH,
2302
01:16:06,395 --> 01:16:07,229
BLAH, BLAH.
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IT WAS LIKE ALL OF THESE
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DIFFERENT THINGS.
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LIKE, I WOULD NEVER WANT TO TELL
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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,401
EVERYBODY THE WHOLE, ENTIRE
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01:16:12,435 --> 01:16:14,270
STORY, BECAUSE IT SOUNDED CRAZY.
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01:16:14,303 --> 01:16:15,971
IT SOUNDED JUST LIKE TOO BIG OF
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A CAN OF WORMS, LIKE, WHO WOULD
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BELIEVE ME?
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01:16:18,441 --> 01:16:19,942
AND THEN I WAS LIKE, "OTHER
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01:16:19,975 --> 01:16:25,781
WOMEN WOULD BELIEVE ME. "
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01:16:25,815 --> 01:16:27,850
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT PEOPLE
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01:16:27,883 --> 01:16:28,651
THINK.
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01:16:28,684 --> 01:16:29,852
I KNOW WHAT'S REAL.
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01:16:29,885 --> 01:16:31,754
I DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE DON'T
2317
01:16:31,787 --> 01:16:33,422
THINK FEMINISM IS IMPORTANT,
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01:16:33,456 --> 01:16:35,124
BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS.
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01:16:35,157 --> 01:16:37,259
AND I DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE DON'T
2320
01:16:37,293 --> 01:16:39,195
THINK LATE-STAGE LYME DISEASE
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EXISTS BECAUSE I HAVE IT, AND
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01:16:41,163 --> 01:16:43,032
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE IT, AND WE
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01:16:43,065 --> 01:16:45,101
HELP EACH OTHER, AND WE KNOW IT
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01:16:45,134 --> 01:16:45,734
EXISTS.
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01:16:45,768 --> 01:16:47,703
AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN THINK
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01:16:47,736 --> 01:16:49,104
WHATEVER THEY WANT.
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MY PROBLEM IS WHEN PEOPLE GET
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IN THE WAY OF FEMINISM OR PEOPLE
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01:16:53,309 --> 01:16:55,444
GET IN THE WAY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
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01:16:55,478 --> 01:16:57,413
SICK GETTING BETTER, BECAUSE
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01:16:57,446 --> 01:16:59,181
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
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01:16:59,215 --> 01:17:00,716
AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO
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01:17:00,749 --> 01:17:02,451
BELIEVE IN IT, OR THEY DON'T
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01:17:02,485 --> 01:17:04,186
WANT TO CARE ABOUT IT, THAT'S
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01:17:04,220 --> 01:17:05,955
TOTALLY FINE, BUT THEY SHOULD
2336
01:17:05,988 --> 01:17:08,457
HAVE TO STAY OUT OF MY WAY.
2337
01:17:08,491 --> 01:17:10,693
♪ I HEAR YOU TALK, TALK
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01:17:10,726 --> 01:17:11,360
♪ BUT I CAN TELL
2339
01:17:11,393 --> 01:17:13,229
YOU'RE MORE HISTRIONIC
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01:17:13,262 --> 01:17:14,463
THAN HISTORICAL ♪
2341
01:17:14,497 --> 01:17:15,865
♪ YOU'RE JUST A FAKE WELL-READ,
2342
01:17:15,898 --> 01:17:17,766
SUPER-MEAN GIRL ♪
2343
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,034
♪ I DON'T WANT ANYWHERE
2344
01:17:19,068 --> 01:17:19,969
NEAR MY WORLD ♪
2345
01:17:20,002 --> 01:17:21,437
♪ AND IF ANTI-YOU
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01:17:21,470 --> 01:17:23,105
MEANS ANTI-US
2347
01:17:23,138 --> 01:17:25,474
I GUESS WE JUST BIT THE DUST
2348
01:17:25,508 --> 01:17:26,976
'CAUSE IN REVERSE
2349
01:17:27,009 --> 01:17:28,878
IT'S STILL A FUCKING PAGEANT ♪
2350
01:17:28,911 --> 01:17:30,079
♪ OH, SO CURSED,
2351
01:17:30,112 --> 01:17:31,347
NOT REAL MAGIC ♪
2352
01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:34,216
♪ AR-AR-AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
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01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:36,485
♪ AR-AR-AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
2354
01:17:36,519 --> 01:17:40,122
♪ AR-AR-AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
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01:17:40,156 --> 01:17:42,925
♪ AR-AR-AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
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01:17:42,958 --> 01:17:45,094
♪ AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
2357
01:17:45,127 --> 01:17:48,097
♪ AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
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01:17:48,130 --> 01:17:50,766
♪ AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON
2359
01:17:50,799 --> 01:17:55,871
♪ AR-AR-ARMAGEDDON ♪
2360
01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:13,422
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO
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01:20:03,265 --> 01:20:05,901
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO-DO
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01:20:05,934 --> 01:20:08,904
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO-DO
2363
01:20:08,937 --> 01:20:13,575
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO
2364
01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:18,080
♪ THIS IS ALL IN RUSSIAN, BOY,
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01:20:18,113 --> 01:20:21,950
NO NEED TO STEAL ♪
2366
01:20:26,021 --> 01:20:29,591
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO
2367
01:20:53,682 --> 01:20:58,487
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO
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01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:04,093
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO
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01:21:04,126 --> 01:21:09,465
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO
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01:21:09,498 --> 01:21:12,501
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO-DO
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01:21:12,534 --> 01:21:15,370
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO-DO
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01:21:15,404 --> 01:21:18,674
♪ DO-DO-DO-DO DO-DO-DO
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