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David: Time.
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One of the most
complex expressions.
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Memory made manifest.
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It's something that
straddles past and future
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without ever quite
being present.
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Or rather, it at first seems
indifferent to the present.
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There's a tension of a most
unfathomable nature.
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The word desires
to be understood.
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To have meaning.
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But you somehow feel
that it's not you yourself
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that the word is addressing.
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It washes over you,
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holding a dialogue
with something arcane
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that's maybe not mortal.
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And you feel intrigued.
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Captured even.
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You're aware
of a deeper existence.
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Maybe a temporary reassurance
that indeed
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there is no beginning, no end.
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And all at once,
the outward appearance
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of meaning is transcended.
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And you find yourself
struggling to comprehend
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a deep and formidable mystery.
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All is transient.
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Does it matter?
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Do I bother?
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I inchworm, inchworm I
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I measuring the marigolds I
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I you and your... I
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David: All those moments
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will be lost in time...
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Like tears...
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Dust...
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Cover me moon dust.
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Cover me...
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I spaceboy, you're sleepy now I
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I your silhouette
is so stationary I
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I you're released,
but your custody calls I
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I and I want to be free I
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I don't you want to be free I
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I do you like girls or boys? I
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I it's confusing these days I
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I but moondust will cover you I
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I cover you I
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I so bye bye love I
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I yeah bye bye love I
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I hallo, spaceboy I
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I this chaos is killing me I
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I hallo, spaceboy I
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Neil: Ground to major,
bye bye, Tom
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David:
J“ this chaos is killing me I
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Neil: I dead the circuit,
countdown's wrong I
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David:
J“ this chaos is killing me I
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Neil: Planet earth,
is control on?
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David: I so sleepy now I
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Neil: I do you wanna be free? I
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both:
I don't you wanna be free? I
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I do you like girls or boys? I
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I it's confusing these days I
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David:
I but moondust will cover you I
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I cover you I
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I so bye bye love I
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I yeah, bye bye love I
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I hallo spaceboy I
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I spaceboy, spaceboy... I
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woman: I wanted to see him.
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Man:
What are you so upset about?
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Girl: I wanted to see him.
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They said he was
coming round the back.
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I've been waiting
for ages to see him.
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Man: Why are you so upset?
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Girl: He's smashing.
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Girl 2: I kissed him!
I kissed his hand!
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David: J“ hallo spaceboy I
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I hallo, hallo. I
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Dick cavett: Rumors
and questions have arisen,
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such as who is he, what is he,
where did he come from?
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Is he a creature
of a foreign power?
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Is he a creep? Is he dangerous?
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Is he smart, dumb,
nice to his parents,
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real, a put-on, crazy,
sane, man, woman, robot?
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What is this?
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Ladies and gentlemen,
David bowie.
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I solemn faced I
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I the village settles down I
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I undetected by the stars I
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I hangman plays the mandolin I
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I before he goes to sleep I
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I and the last thing
on his mind I
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I is the wild eyed boy
imprisoned I
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I 'neath the covered
wooden shaft I
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I folds the rope into its bag I
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I blows his pipe of smolders I
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I blankets smoke into the room I
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I and the day
will end for some I
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I as the night begins for one I
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I staring through the message
in his eyes I
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I lies a solitary son I
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I from the mountain
called freecloud I
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I where the eagle dare not fly I
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I and the Patience in his sigh I
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I gives no indication I
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I for the townsmen to decide I
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I so the village
dreadful yawns I
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I pronouncing gross diversion I
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I as the label for the dog I
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I oh, "it's the madness
in his eyes" I
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I as he breaks
the night to cry I
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I it's really me I
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I really you and really me I
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I it's so hard
for us to really be I
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I really you and really me I
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I you'll lose me,
though I'm always I
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I really free I
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j'yeah... I
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I Jimmy rapped all night
about his suicide I
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I how he'd kick it in the head
when he was 25 I
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I all that speed jive I
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I don't want to stay alive
when you're 25 I
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I Lucy's stealing clothes
from unlocked cars I
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I Freddy's got spots I
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I from ripping off the stars
from his face, honey I
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I a funky little boat race I
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I the television man is crazy I
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I saying we're juvenile
delinquent wrecks I
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I but, man, I need a TV
when I've got t. Rex I
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I hey, brother, you guessed I
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I I'm a dude I
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I all the young dudes I
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I carry the news I
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I boogaloo dudes I
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I carry the news I
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I all the young dudes I
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I carry the news I
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I boogaloo dudes yeah I
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I carry the news I
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I wake up you sleepy head I
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I put on some clothes,
shake up your bed I
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I put another log
on the fire for me I
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I I've made some
breakfast and coffee I
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I I look out my window
what do I see I
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I a crack in the sky
and a hand... I
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I reaching down... I
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I to me... I
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I all the nightmares
came today I
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I and it looks as though
they're here to stay... I
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I it's a god-awful
small affair I
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I to the girl with
the mousy hair I
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I but her mummy
is yelling, "no" I
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I and her daddy
has told her to go I
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I but her friend is
nowhere to be seen... I
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man: He's just
another fella, you know?
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Woman: No, he's not.
He's different.
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Man: Well, nobody like
him can produce the music.
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Man: Davie's the greatest,
and I'll say it again.
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Dave's the greatest,
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and I'll say it again,
Dave's the greatest.
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And I seen him onstage,
and he was fantastic.
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I'll follow that bloke anywhere
'cause he's the greatest.
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And I'll say it again,
he's the greatest.
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Man 2: Listen, you don't have
to be bent to wear makeup.
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It looks good,
so why not wear it?
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Woman: Even if it's camp,
but he's sexy, isn't he?
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Sort of thing, really.
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David: If I can
tart it all up enough,
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maybe people will see that it
has a lot to do with just them.
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Interviewer:
What, with reflection?
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David: Yeah, that it is really
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a reflection
of what they're like.
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Host: Mr. Powell, Mr. Jenkins.
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Businessmen in general...
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Best watch it.
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Interviewer: How are you?
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David: I'm very well,
thank you. How are you?
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Interviewer I'm fine.
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David: Good. How are you?
How are you?
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Interviewer: You, uh,
have to get the gear on
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in order to project yourself.
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I mean, were you a nobody
who suddenly thought,
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"Jesus, I must get into
the scene by some other way"?
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David: I never asked
Jesus for a think, no.
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It was always
on my own initiative.
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And...
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When I was 14, I became a mod,
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and it just carried
on from there.
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I've always dressed
in what I considered clothes
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that are exciting for me,
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um, to prevent me
becoming humdrum
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so that I would receive
reaction from people
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which would
encourage me to write.
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Interviewer: You will have
obviously as many men followers
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- as you have women followers.
- David: Yes.
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Interviewer: I mean,
you haven't been shy about
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declaring a certain
air of bisexuality.
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David: Not at all.
I know quite a few men.
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Woman: Some people feel you're...
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By saying you're bisexual.
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By... by kind of flaunting
that in a way...
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David: Who's flaunting it?
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Interviewer: Why do
you think that bisexuality in,
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say '72, '73 has become
a common... not a common,
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but an accepted kind of deal.
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Why do you think we
have moved into that
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era of liberal behavior?
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David: Once upon
a time, your father,
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my father, everybody's
father, I presume,
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wanted a good job, with a good
income, or reasonable income.
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Some chance of promotion
to secure their family life.
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Um, where's the camera?
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You're probably fine there,
and that's where it ended.
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But now, people
want a role in society.
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They want to feel that
they have a position.
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They want to be an individual,
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and I think there's
a lot of searching to find
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the individual within oneself.
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Interviewer: Right,
and how about the shoes?
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Are those men's shoes,
or women's shoes,
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or bisexual shoes?
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David: They're
shoe shoes, silly.
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David: There was a feeling
of excitement and titillation
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about moving in areas
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which were forbidden
to the rest of society.
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From micro to macro,
from yin to Yang,
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from male to female,
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there is no scissor cut.
No absolute.
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I believe that there was
an unconscious move to create
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a high priest form from
the line of the Greek gods
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who could procreate themselves.
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Somebody who
was at a super level
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to we regular mortals, because
of his androgynous nature,
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being somebody that incorporated
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both feminine
and masculine attributes.
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I I'm an alligator I
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I I'm a mama-papa
comin' for you I
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I I'm the space invader I
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I I'll be a rock 'n' rollin'
bitch for you I
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I keep your mouth shut I
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I you're squawking
like a pink monkey bird I
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j'and I'm bustin' up my
brains for the words I
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know I am.
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I keep your 'iectric eye
on me, babe I
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I put your ray gun to my head I
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I press your space
face close to mine, love I
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I freak out in a moonage
daydream, oh yeah! I
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I don't fake it baby I
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I lay the real thing on me I
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I you know,
the church of man, love I
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I is such a holy place to be I
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I don't fake it, baby I
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I make me know you really care I
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I make me jump into the air I
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I if you dare I
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I keep your 'iectric eye
on me, babe I
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I put your ray gun to my head I
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I press your space
face close to mine, love I
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I freak out in a moonage
daydream, oh yeah! I
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David: It was
a pudding, you know?
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It was a pudding of new ideas.
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I think we took it
on our shoulders
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that we were creating
the 21st century in 1971.
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We wanted to just blast
everything in the past.
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Question all the established
values, all the taboos.
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Everything is rubbish
and all rubbish is wonderful.
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I keep your 'iectric eye
on me, babe I
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I put your ray gun to my head I
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I press your space
face close to mine, love I
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I freak out in a moonage
daydream, oh yeah! I
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I freak out I
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I far out I
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Woman: I just didn't... to this.
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I've never seen anything
like this before.
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Woman 2: See, I'm just a space
cadet, he's the commander.
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Man: What universe is that?
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Man 2: Bowie universe.
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Woman: Now nobody's scared
to walk around like that,
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are they?
He's done it, ain't he.
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He's broke through
a barrier, now, ain't he?
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Woman 2: I guess I'm living
my fantasy, you know?
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Man: What's your fantasy?
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Woman 2: Oh, bowie.
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Man: I like people
who are ac/dc.
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You know what I mean?
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Interviewer: Do the clothes,
you are trying to say,
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are the clothes expressed
now your own personality?
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David: Um, no, that I've
never been quite clear about.
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I've never been sure
of my own personality.
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Interviewer:
That's very refreshing.
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That's a very refreshing thing
to hear somebody say that.
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Very. But can you fill us
in on the barest outlines?
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David: I'm a collector.
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Um, and I've always just
seemed to collect personalities,
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um, ideas. I have
a hodge podge philosophy
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- which really is very minimal.
- Um, What?
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Interviewer:
Do you believe in god?
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David: Um, I believe
in an energy form.
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I'm not... I wouldn't put a...
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Iwouldn't like to
put a name to it.
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Interviewer: Do you
indulge in any form of worship?
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David: Um, uh, life.
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I love life very much indeed.
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David: My strivings to have
some kind of spiritual base
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were really, really
strong all my life,
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and I think I tried
to amalgamate
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my own bedrock of spirituality.
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I mean, I was
a Buddhist on Tuesday,
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and I was into
Nietzsche by Friday.
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Interviewer: Some time
flirting with buddhism,
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and spending some
time in a Buddhist retreat.
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David: I mean, I felt at
the time that I was, you know,
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um, Buddha's answer to
everything he wanted man to be,
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but I'm... the one thing that
hung over from that time
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was the feeling
of impermanence and transience.
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That was the one thing
that really struck home
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about everything
that I was learning.
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Nothing's gonna
stay around very long.
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I mean, you know,
everything changes
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different rates.
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Some seem to me sort
of established for a bit,
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but they're only moving at
a slower rate than other things
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and they're all inevitably
sort of a change-over.
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For me, there's always
been a thread of merely,
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um, a search.
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Generally, I think the subject
matters always come back
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to this singular question
of nearly every artist,
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which is what's my
relationship with the universe?
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Whatever other form
it takes that's basic,
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I think that's probably
the essential question
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that all of us ask ourselves.
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A lot of us probably
on that last few minutes.
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Interviewer: What's Ziggy?
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David: Ziggy, I wanted...
I wanted to define
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the archetype
"Messiah rockstar."
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That's all I wanted to do,
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and I used the trappings
of kabuki theater,
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mime technique,
and fringe New York music.
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I love, love me do I
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I you know I love you I
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I I'll always be true I
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I so please I
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audience: I love me do I
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David: J“ loves to be loved I
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David: Ziggy was for
me a very simplistic thing:
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What it seemed to
be, an alien rockstar,
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but other people reread him
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and contributed more
information about Ziggy
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than I'd put into him.
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David: You know, we've
set ourselves up as such.
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We want it all.
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You know, we want
all the adulation,
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and people to read the lyrics,
and read and everything
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just to play the game.
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David: When I was really
young, one of the mysteries,
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the great mystery of rock,
was that I hardly understood
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a word of what they
were singing about.
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Fats domino, I still don't know
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one word of one lyric
that he ever wrote.
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I never understood
his pronunciation.
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And that made it even more
mysterious, and wonderful,
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and magic, you know?
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That he was talking
about something
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that I couldn't even
possibly start to understand,
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and I wanted in.
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I wanted to be in that place,
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this alternate
universe, you know?
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And that was so much
a part of the magic of music,
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and the same with art.
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I never really... I could
appreciate the vermeer,
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or tintoretto, or titian,
or something like that,
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but because it was
symbolic and figurative,
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it didn't... I was never that
impressed with virtuosity.
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I was, you know, I understood
that their technique
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and the way they applied
paint, and what they could do,
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and how they could
embrace light and all that,
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I understood and realized the...
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And I bowed
in humbleness at their...
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But it wasn't... I mean, that's
not what I wanted from it.
377
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I wanted to use art.
378
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I wanted to use art
in a different way in my life.
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I wanted a sense that...
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All the nooks and crannies
that we don't understand
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about the way that we live
through our day to day life,
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and I wanted that
shown to me, you know?
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Not in great clarity, but some
kind of physical manifestation
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of these are the areas of life
that are causing you grief,
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or euphoria, and you
don't really know why.
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Why is it that you
wake up one day,
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and an oak tree, hit by
the light in a certain way,
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will produce these
extraordinary feelings of glee,
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and absolute enjoyment,
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exhilaration at
actually being alive.
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Another day, you can wake up
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and that same tree
will seem like some
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caspar David friedrich
symbolic death, you know?
394
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And it will be dark and
negative and awful, you know?
395
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And it's that sense of why
those things happen?
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Why aren't things
the same every single day
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and produce exactly
the same feeling?
398
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And art always does that to me.
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Interviewer:
What are your hobbies?
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David: Well, where
would you like to start?
401
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Uh, I sculpt, paint,
and write films.
402
00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:28,976
Um, I make video television.
403
00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:30,727
Not programs,
but video television.
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00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,355
- Interviewer: Of what?
- Um, art things that I do.
405
00:29:33,397 --> 00:29:39,278
Experimental video,
and cinematography.
406
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Interviewer: With
the art now that you create,
407
00:29:40,988 --> 00:29:42,406
the sculpturings...
408
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David: Yeah, I have...
You'll see.
409
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Interviewer: Is what...
410
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David: I play with video, yes.
I flirt an awful lot.
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I've asked again,
over the last few years,
412
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I've been identifying
again with a force.
413
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I don't know how I'm going to...
414
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How it will end up for me,
415
00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:14,229
but, um, I can't pinpoint it,
416
00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:16,356
but I do have
a very strong belief in...
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In a force, and I don't
know how it works.
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00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,405
What I mean is, there is
something else other than us.
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That's as near
as I can get to it,
420
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and it may even just be
people on other planets
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that I'm thinking about.
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It may be god.
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It may be...
I don't know what it is,
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but there's a definite
force that I feel.
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Interviewer: Almost
like there's something else,
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- that we're just a part of it.
- David: Yeah. Yeah.
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Interviewer: That's beyond us.
That's my feeling as well.
428
00:30:44,259 --> 00:30:47,220
There's always been,
um, for me...
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I guess for a lot of people...
A certain sense of you
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that's other-worldly.
Um, and of course that's...
431
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I dilejo I
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I sula vie milejo I
433
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I mmm-omm... I
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David: Like anything useful,
435
00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:21,982
it's all got to do with fear.
436
00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:26,069
I think he's
broken his arm, sir.
437
00:32:28,738 --> 00:32:31,450
They wouldn't
bother with it, captain.
438
00:32:33,326 --> 00:32:38,248
I I'm closer to
the golden dawn I
439
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:41,960
I immersed in
crowley's uniform I
440
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I of imagery... I
441
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interviewer:
Ziggy was a disguise?
442
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David: He was
a character that I created.
443
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I wanted to make films...
444
00:32:51,261 --> 00:32:53,972
I I'm living in
a silent film... I
445
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and I transposed most
of those ideas into music form.
446
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Interviewer: How
long is it gonna take
447
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before you're all David bowie?
448
00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:05,358
David: Oh never, you know.
449
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,194
I'd run off
into something else, you know.
450
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I I'm frightened
by the total goal I
451
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I drawing to the ragged hole I
452
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interviewer: What's
"changes" all about?
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David: Changes.
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Someone putting
themselves through
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as much experimentation
to, you know,
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sort of treating oneself
as a bit of an experiment.
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I put myself in predicaments
458
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to see how I'll
cope with them a lot.
459
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:36,515
It's sort of trying
to strengthen myself.
460
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I I'm the twisted name
in goebbel's eyes I
461
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I living proof
of Churchill's lies I
462
00:33:45,565 --> 00:33:47,651
I I'm destiny I
463
00:33:52,447 --> 00:33:57,118
I I'm torn between
the light and dark I
464
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I where others
see their targets I
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00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:04,125
I in divine symmetry I
466
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I put myself in dangerous
situations, which I did.
467
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:16,054
Put myself in any situation
which I feel I can't cope with.
468
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Interviewer: Dangerous
situations, such as what?
469
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Can you explain that?
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David: Yeah. Areas
where I have to be in,
471
00:34:20,684 --> 00:34:22,269
sort of, social
contact with people,
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which I'm not
very good at doing.
473
00:34:24,271 --> 00:34:25,939
I put myself in...
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Interviewer: I don't quite
know what you mean now.
475
00:34:27,816 --> 00:34:29,544
David: Well, I went to
Los Angeles and I lived there
476
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for a couple of years, which is
a city I really detest.
477
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- Interviewer: Yeah.
- David: So, iwent to
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live there to see what
would happen to my writing.
479
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Aretha Franklin: I when my soul
was in the lost and found... I
480
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interviewer: Since
you've been in america,
481
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you seem to have picked up
482
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on a lot of the idioms
and themes of American music,
483
00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:53,049
and American culture.
How has that happened?
484
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:55,844
David: There's a fly
floating around in my milk.
485
00:34:55,885 --> 00:34:58,847
There's a foreign body
in it, you see?
486
00:34:58,888 --> 00:35:00,640
And it's getting a lot of milk.
487
00:35:00,682 --> 00:35:02,058
That's kind of how I feel.
488
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:07,606
Aforeign body, and I just...
I couldn't help but soak it up.
489
00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:09,399
You know.
490
00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,901
I hated it when
I first came here.
491
00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:13,194
I couldn't see any of it.
492
00:35:14,404 --> 00:35:16,114
Look, a wax museum.
493
00:35:16,156 --> 00:35:19,242
Hey, a bleedin' wax museum
in the middle of a desert!
494
00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:21,328
You'd think it would
melt, wouldn't you?
495
00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:41,348
David: There's
a good, old circle thing,
496
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and it really is, it's uh,
497
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it's the decadence that
precedes the righteousness,
498
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:49,648
and the morality
499
00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:53,652
of an extremely
right wing art form,
500
00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:56,863
which, in its right wing-ness
is in fact very liberal
501
00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,883
because the faster you
can get rid of the right wings,
502
00:35:58,907 --> 00:36:01,951
and by accelerating it, then
you bring back.
503
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:04,704
You've got to go
through the dictatorship.
504
00:36:04,746 --> 00:36:06,498
You've got to go
through the right wing...
505
00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:07,791
David: Coveting the highest...
506
00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:09,876
David: Exactly.
507
00:36:09,918 --> 00:36:11,670
Man ray is suddenly
getting very popular...
508
00:36:13,588 --> 00:36:16,966
And it's... I mean, I... we...
I know, you know what's coming.
509
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:22,722
I mean, baby, what is coming.
510
00:36:22,764 --> 00:36:24,182
Of course it is, yeah.
511
00:36:24,224 --> 00:36:26,226
And we're going
to live through it.
512
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,520
We're gonna be lucky enough.
513
00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:31,356
David: This ain't rock and roll!
514
00:36:31,398 --> 00:36:33,775
This is genocide!
515
00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:58,633
I I've come on a few years I
516
00:36:58,675 --> 00:37:00,885
I from my Hollywood highs I
517
00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:02,512
I the best of the last I
518
00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:04,764
I the cleanest star'
they ever had I
519
00:37:04,806 --> 00:37:06,599
I I'm stiff on my legend I
520
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:08,518
I the films that I made I
521
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,311
I forget that I'm fifty I
522
00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:12,439
I 'cause you just got paid I
523
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,399
I crack, baby, crack I
524
00:37:14,441 --> 00:37:16,401
I show me you're real I
525
00:37:16,443 --> 00:37:20,071
I smack, baby, smack,
is that all that you feel I
526
00:37:20,113 --> 00:37:21,865
I suck, baby, suck I
527
00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:24,075
I give me your head I
528
00:37:24,117 --> 00:37:25,910
I before you start professing I
529
00:37:25,952 --> 00:37:29,038
I that you're
knocking me dead... I
530
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,891
interviewer: You know,
you haven't... your accent,
531
00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:33,334
your voice, your method
of speech has not changed.
532
00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:35,545
You've been away for two years.
533
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:37,630
Does that mean you've been
locked away somewhere?
534
00:37:37,672 --> 00:37:39,132
David: Yes, I don't
talk to anybody.
535
00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:44,095
Interviewer:
But do people talk to you?
536
00:37:44,137 --> 00:37:45,680
David: I've heard
it rumored, yes.
537
00:37:47,223 --> 00:37:48,683
I but since he pinned you,
baby I
538
00:37:48,725 --> 00:37:50,852
I you're a porcupine I
539
00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:54,481
I you sold me illusions
for a sack full of checks I
540
00:37:54,522 --> 00:37:58,234
I you've made a bad connection
'cause I just want your sex I
541
00:37:58,276 --> 00:38:00,278
I crack, baby, crack I
542
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,405
I show me you're real I
543
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:06,117
I smack, baby, smack,
is that all that you feel I
544
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,119
I suck, baby, suck I
545
00:38:08,161 --> 00:38:09,537
I give me your head I
546
00:38:09,579 --> 00:38:11,456
I before you start professing I
547
00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:13,875
I that you're knocking me dead I
548
00:38:15,168 --> 00:38:16,753
ioh... j“
549
00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:24,010
I oh stay I
550
00:38:26,262 --> 00:38:27,680
I don't you dare I
551
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:32,227
I oh yeah... I
552
00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:37,190
I don't you dare I
553
00:38:39,692 --> 00:38:42,737
I oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I
554
00:38:42,779 --> 00:38:44,113
j'yeah... I
555
00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:21,985
Dick: Some people thought...
556
00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:24,004
There's a lady who said
"I don't know if he'd be...
557
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:25,798
If I'd want to meet him.
He would make me very nervous.
558
00:39:25,822 --> 00:39:27,341
I have a feeling
he's into black magic,
559
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:29,117
and that sort of thing."
560
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:31,220
And other people see you as
just a very skillful performer
561
00:39:31,244 --> 00:39:33,329
who changes from time to time,
562
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:34,622
from one thing to another.
563
00:39:34,664 --> 00:39:36,708
David: Yeah.
Well, both of that is...
564
00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:38,167
Dick: All of the above?
565
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:41,462
Rock 'n' roll with me
566
00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:45,341
I you always were
the one that knew I
567
00:39:48,344 --> 00:39:51,973
I they sold us
for the likes of you I
568
00:39:55,268 --> 00:39:58,438
I I never wanted anything I
569
00:39:58,479 --> 00:40:00,982
I but new surroundings I
570
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:04,861
I a room to rent I
571
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:10,742
I while the lizards
lay lying in the heat I
572
00:40:10,783 --> 00:40:12,428
interviewer: What kind
of childhood did you have?
573
00:40:12,452 --> 00:40:13,953
David: Oh, incredibly ordinary.
574
00:40:13,995 --> 00:40:15,788
- Interviewer: Ordinary?
- David: Yeah.
575
00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:17,433
- Interviewer: In what way?
- David: Well, I mean,
576
00:40:17,457 --> 00:40:19,292
it was regular.
I went to school, I ate.
577
00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:24,047
David: In suburbia,
you're given the impression
578
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:26,049
that nothing culturally
belongs to you.
579
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,176
That you are sort
of in this wasteland,
580
00:40:28,217 --> 00:40:30,637
and I think there's
a passion for most people
581
00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:33,181
who have an iota of curiosity
582
00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:35,642
about them to escape
and get out.
583
00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:40,188
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
584
00:40:43,191 --> 00:40:47,320
I no one else I'd rather be I
585
00:40:49,656 --> 00:40:55,787
I nobody here can do it for me I
586
00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:57,705
I I'm in tears again I
587
00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:06,714
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
588
00:41:10,385 --> 00:41:12,220
David: One of my siblings
589
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:14,889
meant so much to
me in my early years,
590
00:41:14,931 --> 00:41:17,475
and his name was Terry,
and he was my half-brother,
591
00:41:17,517 --> 00:41:19,060
my mother's son.
592
00:41:19,102 --> 00:41:20,621
David: Hey, hey, good evening,
buffalo.
593
00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:23,356
It's nice to be here.
594
00:41:23,398 --> 00:41:27,694
David: He was living between
our family and another family,
595
00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:30,154
and the periods
that I did see him,
596
00:41:30,196 --> 00:41:33,199
it seemed to me that he had
more curiosity about the world
597
00:41:33,241 --> 00:41:34,784
than anybody I'd met.
598
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:41,082
And the first real,
major event for me was
599
00:41:41,124 --> 00:41:43,292
when he passed Jack kerouac's
on the road on to me,
600
00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:46,629
which really changed my life.
601
00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:50,174
And he would also introduce me
to people like John Coltrane,
602
00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:51,843
which was way above my head,
603
00:41:51,884 --> 00:41:53,845
but I wanted to read
what he read,
604
00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:56,347
and I wanted to listen
to what he listened to,
605
00:41:56,389 --> 00:41:59,267
as one does with
an older brother.
606
00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:03,896
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
607
00:42:06,315 --> 00:42:11,070
I no one else I'd rather be I
608
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,786
I nobody here
can do it for me... I
609
00:42:18,828 --> 00:42:20,955
David: I think Terry
probably gave me a great...
610
00:42:20,997 --> 00:42:22,623
The greatest serviceable
education
611
00:42:22,665 --> 00:42:24,459
I could ever have had.
612
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,879
I mean, he just introduced
me to the outside things,
613
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,256
kinds of books,
and kinds of music
614
00:42:30,298 --> 00:42:32,592
and attitudes that just weren't
615
00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:34,302
the currency
in the area that I grew up.
616
00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:38,181
And then he would go
away for long periods,
617
00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:41,392
and one period he went
away and joined the raf.
618
00:42:43,269 --> 00:42:48,775
When he came back, he had very
evident signs of schizophrenia,
619
00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:50,816
and he stayed in hospital
for the rest of his life.
620
00:42:57,033 --> 00:43:01,746
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
621
00:43:04,165 --> 00:43:08,586
I no one else I'd rather be I
622
00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:16,219
I nobody here
can do it for me... I
623
00:43:18,179 --> 00:43:20,556
David: I think it made me
worry about my own disposition,
624
00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:23,392
and whether I just
had eccentric ideas,
625
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:26,395
or whether I was
heading somewhere else.
626
00:43:26,437 --> 00:43:32,068
I when you rock 'n' roll,
rock 'n' roll with me I
627
00:43:33,611 --> 00:43:38,157
I no one else I'd rather,
I'd rather be I
628
00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:45,414
I nobody down here
can do it for me I
629
00:43:48,084 --> 00:43:49,836
I I'm in tears I
630
00:43:51,796 --> 00:43:53,089
I I'm in tears I
631
00:43:55,383 --> 00:44:00,763
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me... I
632
00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:04,684
I oh yeah I
633
00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:09,647
I rock 'n' roll with me I
634
00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:11,566
I oh-hoo yeah. I
635
00:44:20,366 --> 00:44:22,010
Interviewer: I understand
that you have a fear
636
00:44:22,034 --> 00:44:24,078
because there was
mental illness in your family,
637
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,914
that you have a fear of
mental illness. Is that true?
638
00:44:26,956 --> 00:44:30,126
David: Um, no, I developed
a system against it.
639
00:44:30,168 --> 00:44:33,462
I think that probably became
part of the therapy of art,
640
00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:36,007
and I was fortunate
enough to be able to
641
00:44:36,048 --> 00:44:38,593
express any visions
that I had in my head.
642
00:44:38,634 --> 00:44:40,154
- Interviewer: Yeah.
- David: Very outwardly.
643
00:44:40,178 --> 00:44:42,722
David: Gradually
learning to do without sleep.
644
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:48,436
David: It's a labyrinthine
existence that we live,
645
00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:51,355
and so it makes sense
for me to put together
646
00:44:51,397 --> 00:44:52,940
elements in a song which
647
00:44:52,982 --> 00:44:54,942
wouldn't naturally
be good bedfellows.
648
00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:02,158
I guess I'm trying
to articulate...
649
00:45:04,327 --> 00:45:06,454
Those mysterious
corners of the mind
650
00:45:06,495 --> 00:45:08,414
where there exist
grains of truth
651
00:45:08,456 --> 00:45:10,333
that we don't often touch on,
652
00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:12,793
because we don't have
the words to capture them.
653
00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:17,882
So, we'll write on three or
four different subject matters,
654
00:45:17,924 --> 00:45:21,844
and then integrate them
together by cutting them up.
655
00:45:21,886 --> 00:45:25,139
What I've used it for
more than anything else
656
00:45:25,181 --> 00:45:29,977
is igniting anything that
might be in my imagination.
657
00:45:30,019 --> 00:45:31,739
I've tried doing it
with diaries and things,
658
00:45:31,771 --> 00:45:34,315
and I was finding out
amazing things about me
659
00:45:34,357 --> 00:45:36,442
and what I'd done
and where I was going.
660
00:45:37,985 --> 00:45:39,820
A lot of the things I had done,
661
00:45:39,862 --> 00:45:42,365
it seemed that it would
predict things about the future
662
00:45:42,406 --> 00:45:45,368
and tell me a lot
about the past.
663
00:45:45,409 --> 00:45:49,705
I suppose it's a very
western tarot. I don't know.
664
00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:51,707
Obviously, one
is trying to always
665
00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:53,751
reevaluate one's personality,
666
00:45:53,793 --> 00:45:56,462
and understand why one works.
667
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,425
I think a lot of artists deal
with loneliness and solitude.
668
00:46:03,594 --> 00:46:07,765
An artist does tend
to examine the world
669
00:46:07,807 --> 00:46:09,642
through his relationship to it,
670
00:46:09,684 --> 00:46:11,519
and so that produces
671
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,604
a very introverted looking
lot of work.
672
00:46:13,646 --> 00:46:16,607
I don't feel lonely.
I apply that to my work.
673
00:46:16,649 --> 00:46:21,362
I sense a feeling of loneliness
from my work when I look at it,
674
00:46:21,404 --> 00:46:24,657
but I don't feel like
a solitary person myself,
675
00:46:24,699 --> 00:46:26,492
but it seems
to show up in my work,
676
00:46:26,534 --> 00:46:28,786
and it's like taking
a photograph
677
00:46:28,828 --> 00:46:30,746
and then developing the negative
678
00:46:30,788 --> 00:46:33,249
and seeing another
person standing behind you.
679
00:46:33,291 --> 00:46:39,130
I who will love Aladdin sane I
680
00:46:39,171 --> 00:46:43,926
I battle cries and champagne
just in time for sunrise I
681
00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:49,223
I who will love Aladdin sane I
682
00:46:51,684 --> 00:46:53,894
I motor sensational I
683
00:46:56,063 --> 00:46:58,607
I Paris or maybe hell I
684
00:46:58,649 --> 00:47:00,234
I I'm waiting I
685
00:47:00,276 --> 00:47:02,611
I clutches of sad remains I
686
00:47:04,572 --> 00:47:08,534
I waits for Aladdin sane
you'll make it I
687
00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:14,790
I who will love Aladdin sane I
688
00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:18,419
I millions weep a fountain,
just in case of sunrise... I
689
00:47:18,461 --> 00:47:19,795
interviewer:
With your background,
690
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:23,507
why were you
intrigued by all this?
691
00:47:23,549 --> 00:47:27,470
David: Um, it was... I mean,
692
00:47:27,511 --> 00:47:29,722
it filled a vast expanse
of my imagination.
693
00:47:29,764 --> 00:47:31,223
I was always pretty imaginative.
694
00:47:33,476 --> 00:47:36,270
And the imagination
can dry up in
695
00:47:36,312 --> 00:47:38,522
wherever you're
living in england, often.
696
00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:40,816
I mean, if there's
nothing to keep it going.
697
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:42,777
It just supplied a need in me.
698
00:47:44,278 --> 00:47:46,697
American became
a myth-land for me.
699
00:47:52,912 --> 00:47:55,664
David: We're not stopped.
Is there anything behind us?
700
00:48:01,045 --> 00:48:02,630
Interviewer: Let's
go with him now live,
701
00:48:02,671 --> 00:48:04,256
by satellite,
702
00:48:04,298 --> 00:48:06,884
to beautiful downtown Burbank
in Los Angeles.
703
00:48:09,011 --> 00:48:10,113
Audience member:
Is it true that you're gonna be
704
00:48:10,137 --> 00:48:11,305
teaming up with...
705
00:48:12,515 --> 00:48:14,392
Every Avenue.
706
00:48:14,433 --> 00:48:17,186
It's very calm, and it's a kind
of a superficial calmness
707
00:48:17,228 --> 00:48:19,331
that they've developed to
underplay the fact that it's...
708
00:48:19,355 --> 00:48:22,233
There's a lot of high
pressure here,
709
00:48:22,274 --> 00:48:24,114
as it's a very big
entertainment industry area.
710
00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:28,614
And you get this feeling
of unease with everybody.
711
00:48:28,656 --> 00:48:30,032
It's a very big
entertainment area.
712
00:48:30,074 --> 00:48:31,534
David: The first time
that it really
713
00:48:31,575 --> 00:48:34,036
came home to me
what a strange...
714
00:48:36,038 --> 00:48:39,917
About the churches
designed by an architect...
715
00:48:39,959 --> 00:48:41,710
David: Arthur, would
you please slow down?
716
00:48:43,421 --> 00:48:45,023
Interviewer: We're
bouncing backwards and forwards
717
00:48:45,047 --> 00:48:46,465
on the satellite at the moment.
718
00:48:46,507 --> 00:48:49,427
I mean, our sound
is bouncing around.
719
00:48:49,468 --> 00:48:50,636
Yes, I can see it.
720
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,223
It'll be all right in a minute.
721
00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:01,507
Interviewer:
Are you there, David?
722
00:49:02,606 --> 00:49:03,816
Are you there, David?
723
00:49:03,858 --> 00:49:05,734
Bedroom in the sky.
724
00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:07,496
Interviewer:
Are you there, Mr. David bowie?
725
00:49:16,829 --> 00:49:19,874
David: I think
that I felt often,
726
00:49:19,915 --> 00:49:24,378
ever since I was a teenager,
727
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:29,592
um, so adrift, and so
not part of everyone I saw.
728
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:32,470
There's so many dark secrets
729
00:49:32,511 --> 00:49:33,888
about my family in the cupboard
730
00:49:33,929 --> 00:49:36,682
that it kind of made me feel
731
00:49:36,724 --> 00:49:39,143
very much on the outside
of everything,
732
00:49:39,185 --> 00:49:44,607
and because of that, I felt
there was no basis to my life,
733
00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:46,609
like everybody else
seemed to have.
734
00:49:48,152 --> 00:49:50,529
Which of course is ridiculous.
735
00:49:50,571 --> 00:49:53,240
Probably, I would
do things to prove that
736
00:49:53,282 --> 00:49:56,118
I had some
emotional substance...
737
00:49:57,495 --> 00:49:58,996
When in fact I didn't.
738
00:50:39,995 --> 00:50:42,957
David: Thematically, I've always
dealt with isolation
739
00:50:42,998 --> 00:50:44,792
in everything I've written,
I think.
740
00:50:44,833 --> 00:50:47,044
Interviewer: If you're
interested in isolation,
741
00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:49,922
is it because you think that
a person in an isolated state
742
00:50:49,964 --> 00:50:53,092
feel greater emotions
than they do
743
00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:55,928
when they're surrounded
by people and things?
744
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:58,722
David:
I think if he is in isolation,
745
00:50:58,764 --> 00:51:03,352
instead of receiving
the whole world as his home,
746
00:51:03,394 --> 00:51:06,522
he tends to create
a micro-world inside himself.
747
00:51:06,564 --> 00:51:10,317
Um, and it's that peculiar
part of the human mind
748
00:51:10,359 --> 00:51:12,778
that fascinates me
about the small universes
749
00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:15,823
that can be created
inside the mind.
750
00:51:15,864 --> 00:51:18,242
Some of them
fairly schizophrenic
751
00:51:18,284 --> 00:51:19,368
and quite off the wall.
752
00:51:22,788 --> 00:51:25,624
It feels now that
I don't come from anywhere,
753
00:51:25,666 --> 00:51:28,877
but I was born in Brixton.
754
00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:30,355
Interviewer:
When were you born? What year?
755
00:51:30,379 --> 00:51:33,507
David: 1947. January the eighth.
756
00:51:33,549 --> 00:51:36,635
Makes me a capricorn
with an aquarius ascendant
757
00:51:36,677 --> 00:51:38,637
and a Leo descendant.
758
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:43,535
Interviewer: How much now
is left of the lad
759
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,144
from Brixton, do you think?
760
00:51:45,185 --> 00:51:46,329
David: Not very much,
I would think.
761
00:51:46,353 --> 00:51:48,272
I know, you know.
762
00:51:48,314 --> 00:51:52,192
I never got... I never became
who I should have been.
763
00:51:52,234 --> 00:51:54,194
I've spent an awful lot
of my life
764
00:51:54,236 --> 00:51:56,739
actually looking
for myself, you know?
765
00:51:56,780 --> 00:52:00,743
And understanding what it was
that i-why-what I existed for.
766
00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:02,584
What was it that really
made me happy in life?
767
00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:05,873
And who exactly, or was...
768
00:52:05,914 --> 00:52:08,034
Who are the parts of myself
I was trying to hide from?
769
00:52:10,628 --> 00:52:13,756
I think a lot of us
have huge senses of denial
770
00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:15,966
about who we are and
where we exist in the world
771
00:52:18,469 --> 00:52:20,012
I really wanted to
sort of, you know,
772
00:52:20,054 --> 00:52:21,654
be very emotionally involved
with people.
773
00:52:22,681 --> 00:52:24,266
I didn't know how to do it.
774
00:52:24,308 --> 00:52:25,809
You know,
my parents were like that,
775
00:52:25,851 --> 00:52:27,519
and I guess you kind of,
as they say,
776
00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:30,981
they pass on a lot of faults.
777
00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,832
Dick: What do
your parents do for a living?
778
00:52:36,862 --> 00:52:41,241
My father's dead,
and my mother has a small flat,
779
00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:44,578
and I think she's got a dayjob.
780
00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:46,264
Dick: Does she have trouble
explaining you to the neighbors
781
00:52:46,288 --> 00:52:48,540
who say, "are you
any relation to that..."
782
00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:50,584
David: I think she pretends
I'm not hers.
783
00:52:52,294 --> 00:52:54,505
Nah, she's uh,
she doesn't talk much.
784
00:52:54,546 --> 00:52:57,716
You know, she doesn't,
um, I don't think we really...
785
00:52:57,758 --> 00:52:59,510
We were never
that close particularly.
786
00:52:59,551 --> 00:53:00,969
We have an understanding.
787
00:53:01,011 --> 00:53:02,012
Dick: Yeah.
788
00:53:05,766 --> 00:53:07,810
Interviewer:
Was it a happy marriage?
789
00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:10,437
Not necessarily
terribly loving or anything,
790
00:53:10,479 --> 00:53:12,981
in terms of
no real physical affection,
791
00:53:14,858 --> 00:53:17,403
or even they
didn't really articulate
792
00:53:17,444 --> 00:53:18,570
any love for each other.
793
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,539
There's an awful lot of
emotional/spiritual mutilation
794
00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:30,207
goes on in my family.
795
00:53:35,379 --> 00:53:38,507
Interviewer: Did you like any
of the traditional people
796
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:40,592
that you're supposed to like?
797
00:53:40,634 --> 00:53:42,219
Like, did you like
winnie the pooh?
798
00:53:42,261 --> 00:53:43,512
David: No. No.
799
00:53:43,554 --> 00:53:45,055
Interviewer: Rupert bear?
800
00:53:45,097 --> 00:53:46,657
David: No.
No I didn't. I didn't like...
801
00:53:46,682 --> 00:53:48,225
Interviewer:
Did you have a Teddy bear?
802
00:53:48,267 --> 00:53:50,227
David: No, I didn't.
I don't think...
803
00:53:53,397 --> 00:53:56,191
I can't remember having
anything like that at all.
804
00:53:56,233 --> 00:53:59,194
No, I never liked, um,
children's things very much.
805
00:54:24,595 --> 00:54:26,156
Interviewer: You know,
since you've been away,
806
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:27,931
or quite recently,
the newspapers
807
00:54:27,973 --> 00:54:30,225
having been having a bit
of a bash at your mother?
808
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,231
And saying that she's
a bit tearful from time to time.
809
00:54:36,273 --> 00:54:39,526
And that she's suffered
a certain amount of anguish,
810
00:54:39,568 --> 00:54:41,695
and that she doesn't hear
from you an awful lot.
811
00:54:41,737 --> 00:54:43,906
Is that eyewash or is it real?
812
00:54:49,161 --> 00:54:50,704
David: There's some kind
of traumatism
813
00:54:50,746 --> 00:54:53,248
often goes on
in our childhoods I think.
814
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,417
I think, that are...
815
00:54:55,459 --> 00:54:57,353
Makes us crave some kind
of strange affection, you know?
816
00:54:57,377 --> 00:54:58,712
It's sort of an...
817
00:54:58,754 --> 00:55:00,380
Often you'll find
that the person
818
00:55:00,422 --> 00:55:02,382
who craves a lot of affection
819
00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:04,426
actually isn't terribly good
at giving it.
820
00:55:07,971 --> 00:55:11,058
Interviewer: Does that mean
you have to separate yourself
821
00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:14,186
quite a lot from, say,
falling in love
822
00:55:14,228 --> 00:55:16,688
and getting very involved
with a person?
823
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:20,275
Um, oh no, I think, no.
824
00:55:20,317 --> 00:55:21,693
I think quite the reverse.
825
00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:23,821
Interviewer: But, love,
falling in love,
826
00:55:23,862 --> 00:55:26,990
is different from then going on
to love that person.
827
00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:28,325
Yes, it is. Yes.
828
00:55:28,367 --> 00:55:30,536
And once you've
loved somebody a lot,
829
00:55:30,577 --> 00:55:32,430
it means that you've got
to share your life with them.
830
00:55:32,454 --> 00:55:34,307
- That's what I really...
- David: No, I don't think so.
831
00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:36,834
I think you can love somebody
from afar.
832
00:55:36,875 --> 00:55:39,461
But if you then decided
not to love them from afar,
833
00:55:39,503 --> 00:55:42,005
you as an artist
would have to give up
834
00:55:42,047 --> 00:55:43,841
quite a lot of your time
to them.
835
00:55:43,882 --> 00:55:45,259
Yes, and I can't do that.
836
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:46,694
Interviewer:
That's what I was wondering,
837
00:55:46,718 --> 00:55:48,303
whether you did...
Whether you did that.
838
00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:49,989
David: No, no, no, love can't
get quite in my way,
839
00:55:50,013 --> 00:55:54,017
because I feel... I shelter
myself from it incredibly.
840
00:55:56,019 --> 00:56:01,066
Interviewer: Do you feel removed
from the body and the feel
841
00:56:01,108 --> 00:56:03,902
that you create on the planet?
842
00:56:03,944 --> 00:56:06,113
David:
Until I'm performing or writing
843
00:56:06,154 --> 00:56:08,824
I mainly feel pretty much
of an empty vessel.
844
00:56:10,409 --> 00:56:11,761
Interviewer: When you're
performing and writing,
845
00:56:11,785 --> 00:56:13,203
you're fulfilled?
846
00:56:13,245 --> 00:56:16,081
David:
I don't particularly feel...
847
00:56:16,123 --> 00:56:19,668
I ground control to major Tom I
848
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:26,383
I ground control to major Tom I
849
00:56:30,512 --> 00:56:35,350
I take your protein pills
and put your helmet on I
850
00:56:37,436 --> 00:56:40,522
I ground control to major Tom I
851
00:56:44,526 --> 00:56:48,071
I commencing countdown,
engines on I
852
00:56:51,783 --> 00:56:53,660
I check ignition I
853
00:56:53,702 --> 00:56:58,373
I and may god's love
be with you I
854
00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:12,763
I this is ground control
to major Tom I
855
00:57:14,014 --> 00:57:16,850
I you've really made the grade I
856
00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:21,897
I and the papers want to know I
857
00:57:21,939 --> 00:57:24,274
I whose shirts you wear I
858
00:57:25,943 --> 00:57:29,279
I now it's time
to leave the capsule I
859
00:57:29,321 --> 00:57:31,907
I if you dare I
860
00:57:33,909 --> 00:57:38,664
I this is major Tom
to ground control I
861
00:57:38,705 --> 00:57:41,792
I I'm stepping
through the door I
862
00:57:43,669 --> 00:57:48,298
I and I'm floating
in a most peculiar way I
863
00:57:50,842 --> 00:57:55,389
I and the stars look
very different today I
864
00:57:58,141 --> 00:58:01,144
I for here I
865
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:03,981
iam I sitting in my tin can I
866
00:58:05,691 --> 00:58:10,112
I far above the world I
867
00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:15,575
I planet earth is blue I
868
00:58:15,617 --> 00:58:19,579
I and there's nothing I can do I
869
00:59:43,914 --> 00:59:45,707
David:
Well, an awful lot of changes
870
00:59:45,749 --> 00:59:47,375
with my musical career
871
00:59:47,417 --> 00:59:49,669
were challenges to myself.
872
00:59:49,711 --> 00:59:52,631
I have to feel that I'm
stepping on new ground,
873
00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:55,133
that the ice beneath my feet
is very thin.
874
00:59:55,175 --> 00:59:56,635
Any second, I could crack it
875
00:59:56,676 --> 00:59:58,095
and just plunge through
and drown.
876
00:59:59,888 --> 01:00:02,349
I got to a point in Los Angeles
877
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:05,018
where I got very tired
with my method of writing,
878
01:00:05,060 --> 01:00:08,105
and I wanted to invent
a new musical language.
879
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,400
I knew I had to get
to an environment
880
01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:14,820
that was totally different
to Los Angeles.
881
01:00:14,861 --> 01:00:16,988
So I thought
of the most arduous city
882
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:19,491
that I could think of,
and it was west Berlin.
883
01:00:19,533 --> 01:00:22,786
They don't give an fa about
who you are in Berlin.
884
01:00:22,828 --> 01:00:25,247
The trappings of rock and roll
don't mean anything to them.
885
01:00:25,288 --> 01:00:26,957
So, I could walk around,
buy me own food,
886
01:00:26,998 --> 01:00:29,251
and just lease
a small apartment,
887
01:00:29,292 --> 01:00:31,628
which I did above
an automobile spare parts shop.
888
01:00:41,930 --> 01:00:45,767
I didn't have
the necessary verbal equipment
889
01:00:45,809 --> 01:00:47,894
to describe what I was seeing,
890
01:00:47,936 --> 01:00:49,376
and that's where
I needed assistance.
891
01:01:00,365 --> 01:01:01,992
So, I contacted Brian eno,
892
01:01:02,033 --> 01:01:04,536
who is definitely one
of the keenest brains
893
01:01:04,578 --> 01:01:06,454
of modern music, and I said,
894
01:01:06,496 --> 01:01:09,332
"look, Brian, I need to know
some new processes,
895
01:01:09,374 --> 01:01:11,042
"and new methods of writing.
896
01:01:11,084 --> 01:01:12,961
Please help me,
otherwise I'm packing it in."
897
01:01:14,588 --> 01:01:16,464
We started working on a series
898
01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:19,467
of processes and methods of
writing in the studio in Berlin
899
01:01:19,509 --> 01:01:22,053
to invent, a different kind
of linguistics to work with.
900
01:01:39,988 --> 01:01:41,781
Most of the things
that I do these days,
901
01:01:41,823 --> 01:01:44,159
I go in with very little
preparation.
902
01:01:44,201 --> 01:01:46,703
There's no governor,
no controller.
903
01:01:46,745 --> 01:01:49,539
Every track is written
with a different process,
904
01:01:49,581 --> 01:01:51,750
from spontaneous singing,
905
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,019
I didn't know
what I was gonna sing,
906
01:01:53,043 --> 01:01:54,628
or how I was gonna sing it,
907
01:01:54,669 --> 01:01:56,254
and I just stood
in front of the mic,
908
01:01:56,296 --> 01:01:58,840
right down
to fragmented, pre-thought,
909
01:01:58,882 --> 01:02:01,676
analyzed and processed writings
of burroughs' school.
910
01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:05,889
It probably touches areas
of emotion
911
01:02:05,931 --> 01:02:07,766
that aren't normally dwelt upon
912
01:02:07,807 --> 01:02:09,643
because they're arrived
at other than
913
01:02:09,684 --> 01:02:11,937
by the regular channels
of emotive thought.
914
01:02:30,956 --> 01:02:33,291
I blue, blue, electric blue I
915
01:02:33,333 --> 01:02:35,418
I that's the color
of my living room I
916
01:02:35,460 --> 01:02:36,586
I where I will live I
917
01:02:39,381 --> 01:02:40,632
I blue, blue I
918
01:02:44,511 --> 01:02:46,680
I pale blinds drawn all day I
919
01:02:46,721 --> 01:02:48,598
I nothing to read
and nothing to say I
920
01:02:52,769 --> 01:02:54,020
I blue, blue pale blinds I
921
01:02:57,899 --> 01:03:00,235
I I will dream of other lands I
922
01:03:00,277 --> 01:03:02,821
I waiting for the gift
of sound and vision I
923
01:03:04,572 --> 01:03:06,372
David: Most of the things
that I do these days
924
01:03:06,408 --> 01:03:08,994
are on the occasion
of the studio.
925
01:03:09,035 --> 01:03:11,579
I go in with very little
preparation,
926
01:03:11,621 --> 01:03:13,373
just throw ideas out,
927
01:03:13,415 --> 01:03:16,126
and you might make
little experiments sort of say,
928
01:03:16,167 --> 01:03:17,711
look here's 50 seconds.
929
01:03:17,752 --> 01:03:20,338
Play 10 notes on that 50 seconds
930
01:03:20,380 --> 01:03:22,132
and don't repeat
the same note twice.
931
01:03:27,929 --> 01:03:30,098
Now, that sounds
like an awful easy thing to do.
932
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:31,975
Well, it is.
933
01:03:32,017 --> 01:03:33,560
See, you must understand,
934
01:03:33,601 --> 01:03:35,270
I mean, it sounds
incredibly indulgent,
935
01:03:35,312 --> 01:03:39,107
and indeed it is
because what I'm trying to do
936
01:03:39,149 --> 01:03:42,527
is mold the traditional
methods of rock and roll...
937
01:03:44,029 --> 01:03:45,363
With newer processes.
938
01:03:47,324 --> 01:03:51,036
Trying to find
a new form of language.
939
01:03:51,077 --> 01:03:52,513
Interviewer: Do you think
you have influence
940
01:03:52,537 --> 01:03:53,955
on their thinking, though?
941
01:03:53,997 --> 01:03:55,874
David: No.
942
01:03:55,915 --> 01:03:58,084
And that's what I'm trying
to do with the new music,
943
01:03:58,126 --> 01:04:01,129
is find a new language
which doesn't... it isn't that...
944
01:04:01,171 --> 01:04:03,631
Doesn't have that kind
of image influence.
945
01:04:06,426 --> 01:04:08,362
Interviewer: Do you think people
will understand that language?
946
01:04:08,386 --> 01:04:10,221
David: Yes.
947
01:04:10,263 --> 01:04:12,116
Because I think people,
especially in the city context,
948
01:04:12,140 --> 01:04:13,725
think in fragments.
949
01:04:13,767 --> 01:04:16,519
The city person will see
a milk advert on the street,
950
01:04:16,561 --> 01:04:18,229
and be thinking
"milk, what's gonna...
951
01:04:18,271 --> 01:04:19,582
"What are we gonna have
for dinner?
952
01:04:19,606 --> 01:04:21,274
"Boy getting knocked down
by a bus,
953
01:04:21,316 --> 01:04:23,568
crashed against a wall..."
That kind of thing.
954
01:04:23,610 --> 01:04:25,278
So, he's thinking in terms of,
955
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,823
maybe 1,000 different images
at any given time.
956
01:04:28,865 --> 01:04:32,535
And the language that Brian
and I are sort of producing
957
01:04:32,577 --> 01:04:35,330
is a language that can relate
to that way of thinking.
958
01:04:46,299 --> 01:04:50,178
David: We live within
this manifested idea
959
01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:52,013
of what should be form,
960
01:04:52,055 --> 01:04:55,767
and what we try and keep out
of our existence is chaos,
961
01:04:55,809 --> 01:04:58,978
which is a very real part
of our lives,
962
01:04:59,020 --> 01:05:01,773
and our refusal to accept chaos
963
01:05:01,815 --> 01:05:03,900
as being integral
to our existence,
964
01:05:03,942 --> 01:05:06,403
I think, has been one
of the greatest mistakes
965
01:05:06,444 --> 01:05:08,780
as a civilization
that we've made.
966
01:05:10,573 --> 01:05:11,991
David: My work as an artist
967
01:05:12,033 --> 01:05:13,513
has always been
to do with transition.
968
01:05:14,619 --> 01:05:16,871
The nature and study of change
969
01:05:16,913 --> 01:05:19,457
in our particular era
is most important
970
01:05:19,499 --> 01:05:21,126
because never in our history
971
01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:24,170
has there been
such a rapid curve of change
972
01:05:24,212 --> 01:05:25,839
since the industrial revolution.
973
01:05:27,215 --> 01:05:29,175
I'm a fairly
good social observer,
974
01:05:29,217 --> 01:05:32,178
and I think
that I encapsulate areas
975
01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:35,098
every, maybe every year or so,
976
01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:38,059
I tried to stamp
that down somewhere,
977
01:05:38,101 --> 01:05:41,062
what that year is all about.
978
01:05:41,104 --> 01:05:42,480
Rather than
what it was all about,
979
01:05:42,522 --> 01:05:44,566
or what it's going to be.
980
01:05:44,607 --> 01:05:47,277
It's very much trying to capture
981
01:05:47,318 --> 01:05:49,737
the quintessence of that year.
982
01:06:03,918 --> 01:06:05,354
Interviewer:
I notice that the music now
983
01:06:05,378 --> 01:06:07,088
is more... more daring,
984
01:06:07,130 --> 01:06:09,257
more adventurous,
more fractured.
985
01:06:09,299 --> 01:06:10,985
Is there a danger that
by following your instinct,
986
01:06:11,009 --> 01:06:12,260
your aesthetic instincts,
987
01:06:12,302 --> 01:06:13,446
if you like,
your artistic instinct,
988
01:06:13,470 --> 01:06:16,681
that you will jeopardize that?
989
01:06:16,723 --> 01:06:18,242
You know, the money
and the good life and all...
990
01:06:18,266 --> 01:06:19,559
No shit, Sherlock.
991
01:06:21,561 --> 01:06:24,481
Yes, I think I... yes, I think
I rather sort of hit that one
992
01:06:24,522 --> 01:06:25,815
in the head at the moment.
993
01:06:25,857 --> 01:06:30,570
Um, and it's quite
a relief, really.
994
01:06:30,612 --> 01:06:36,159
I feel a lot more,
um, free than what I do.
995
01:06:36,201 --> 01:06:39,204
I just needed, it just needed
a positive decision
996
01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:41,039
to only do what I want to do,
997
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,680
and not do things
for the sake of what...
998
01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:48,171
Either David bowie or whoever
I was playing last time,
999
01:06:48,213 --> 01:06:50,465
thin white Duke or something,
was expected to do.
1000
01:06:54,886 --> 01:06:56,387
David: I went naked in Berlin.
1001
01:06:56,429 --> 01:06:59,557
I really did try
and strip down my life
1002
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:02,685
to what I believed
to be absolute basic essentials
1003
01:07:02,727 --> 01:07:04,479
so I could build up again
1004
01:07:04,521 --> 01:07:07,565
everything that I thought
that I'd lost, you know?
1005
01:07:07,607 --> 01:07:09,275
I guess I was...
What I was really doing
1006
01:07:09,317 --> 01:07:11,486
was doing that on an emotional
and spiritual level,
1007
01:07:11,528 --> 01:07:14,155
but you manifest it physically.
1008
01:07:14,197 --> 01:07:16,616
The surprising thing is,
is that we came up...
1009
01:07:16,658 --> 01:07:18,826
We thought we were
just going to be into a process
1010
01:07:18,868 --> 01:07:20,620
of discovery and experiment
1011
01:07:20,662 --> 01:07:22,723
and had some pretty wishy-washy
stuff come out of it,
1012
01:07:22,747 --> 01:07:26,709
but what did come out of it
was a pretty good statement
1013
01:07:26,751 --> 01:07:30,296
of some esoteric nature.
1014
01:07:30,338 --> 01:07:32,549
It was a bit hard
to put one's finger
1015
01:07:32,590 --> 01:07:34,092
on exactly
what the information was,
1016
01:07:34,133 --> 01:07:36,594
but it was vital,
and it was interesting,
1017
01:07:36,636 --> 01:07:38,096
and I think
that's successful music.
1018
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,911
I I, I will be king I
1019
01:08:05,790 --> 01:08:10,753
j'and you,
you will be my queen I
1020
01:08:14,882 --> 01:08:20,263
I though nothing
can keep us together I
1021
01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:29,314
I we can beat them,
forever and ever I
1022
01:08:32,108 --> 01:08:38,239
I we could be heroes
just for one day I
1023
01:08:42,035 --> 01:08:46,706
I you, you can be me I
1024
01:08:50,918 --> 01:08:55,673
iand I,
I'll drink all the time I
1025
01:08:59,427 --> 01:09:04,807
I 'cause we're lovers,
and that is the fact I
1026
01:09:08,394 --> 01:09:13,608
I yes we're lovers,
and that is that I
1027
01:09:17,779 --> 01:09:22,700
I though nothing
will keep us together I
1028
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:31,250
I we can beat them
forever and ever I
1029
01:09:34,128 --> 01:09:39,759
I and we can be heroes
just for one day I
1030
01:10:00,238 --> 01:10:04,951
I I, well I wish I could swim I
1031
01:10:08,371 --> 01:10:13,459
I like dolphins,
like dolphins can swim I
1032
01:10:16,713 --> 01:10:22,343
I though nothing,
can drive them away I
1033
01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:30,059
I we can beat them
forever and ever I
1034
01:10:32,687 --> 01:10:38,276
I oh, we can be heroes
just for one day I
1035
01:10:40,111 --> 01:10:41,320
I what you say? I
1036
01:10:58,629 --> 01:11:04,510
I I, I can remember I
1037
01:11:04,552 --> 01:11:05,552
band: I I remember I
1038
01:11:06,846 --> 01:11:11,934
David: J“ standing by the wall I
1039
01:11:11,976 --> 01:11:14,979
band: I by the wall I
1040
01:11:15,021 --> 01:11:20,651
David: I and the guns
shot above our heads I
1041
01:11:20,693 --> 01:11:23,029
band: J' over our heads I
1042
01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:28,743
David: I and we kissed
as though nothing could fall I
1043
01:11:28,785 --> 01:11:31,078
band: I nothing could fall I
1044
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:36,626
David: I and nothing
and no one will help us I
1045
01:11:38,836 --> 01:11:40,755
I maybe we're lying I
1046
01:11:42,632 --> 01:11:44,342
I then you better not stay I
1047
01:11:47,094 --> 01:11:52,350
I we can be safer
just for one day I
1048
01:11:58,856 --> 01:12:01,776
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1049
01:12:06,989 --> 01:12:10,993
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1050
01:12:11,035 --> 01:12:13,579
I we can be heroes I
1051
01:12:14,997 --> 01:12:18,960
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1052
01:12:19,001 --> 01:12:21,003
I just for one day I
1053
01:12:22,964 --> 01:12:26,884
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1054
01:12:26,926 --> 01:12:32,014
I just for one day. I
1055
01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:44,360
Reporter: Today, David bowie
is 33 years old.
1056
01:12:44,402 --> 01:12:47,071
He has recorded 17 rock albums,
1057
01:12:47,113 --> 01:12:49,073
produced a gallery full
of paintings,
1058
01:12:49,115 --> 01:12:51,200
acted in two feature films,
1059
01:12:51,242 --> 01:12:53,119
and is the only rock star
1060
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,746
ever to act in a play
on Broadway.
1061
01:12:55,788 --> 01:12:58,583
Bowie never seems
to stand still.
1062
01:12:58,624 --> 01:12:59,810
When he no longer
feels challenged
1063
01:12:59,834 --> 01:13:01,627
by one art form,
1064
01:13:01,669 --> 01:13:04,672
he moves on to the next,
and the next, and the next.
1065
01:13:04,714 --> 01:13:06,883
It's as if David bowie
learned to run
1066
01:13:06,924 --> 01:13:08,134
before he learned to walk.
1067
01:13:14,891 --> 01:13:16,767
I I'm home I
1068
01:13:16,809 --> 01:13:18,603
I lost my job... I
1069
01:13:18,644 --> 01:13:20,247
David: You know, I've got
a grasshopper sort of mind,
1070
01:13:20,271 --> 01:13:22,064
and I can't resist
bringing things
1071
01:13:22,106 --> 01:13:24,650
to a conclusion like saying,
"well that's a piece in itself,
1072
01:13:24,692 --> 01:13:26,132
and now I move
on to something else."
1073
01:13:30,281 --> 01:13:31,758
Interviewer: You described
yourself as a generalist.
1074
01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:33,200
- Is that...
- David: Yeah.
1075
01:13:33,242 --> 01:13:35,202
That's a freedom...
Giving umbrella.
1076
01:13:35,244 --> 01:13:37,163
It gives me a chance
1077
01:13:37,204 --> 01:13:39,290
to do anything
I want successfully
1078
01:13:39,332 --> 01:13:41,083
or unsuccessfully,
without being tied down.
1079
01:13:44,629 --> 01:13:47,089
I want... I'm a generalist,
1080
01:13:47,131 --> 01:13:51,010
is really sort of my cliche way
describing myself.
1081
01:13:51,052 --> 01:13:52,637
David: David bowie.
Rank and file.
1082
01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:55,431
33 years old.
1083
01:13:55,473 --> 01:13:56,682
Generalist.
1084
01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,059
Announcer:
Unlike most rock stars
1085
01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:59,685
who stick
to a successful formula
1086
01:13:59,727 --> 01:14:01,979
when they get it,
bowie, when he does,
1087
01:14:02,021 --> 01:14:07,234
deliberately changes direction,
and puts on yet another face.
1088
01:14:07,276 --> 01:14:11,864
I believing me I
1089
01:14:13,783 --> 01:14:17,495
David: I really sort of go
in just pure, barbaric impetus.
1090
01:14:18,913 --> 01:14:21,499
I do get fired up for something
1091
01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:25,419
and it's not all cerebral
at all, by any means.
1092
01:14:25,461 --> 01:14:27,046
A lot of it is pure instinct,
1093
01:14:27,088 --> 01:14:29,131
and knowing that
I've found something
1094
01:14:29,173 --> 01:14:31,342
that I haven't found before.
1095
01:14:31,384 --> 01:14:37,056
Sometimes
I think my head is so big
1096
01:14:37,098 --> 01:14:40,643
because it is so full of themes.
1097
01:14:42,937 --> 01:14:47,149
I I am a d.J.,
I am what I play I
1098
01:14:47,191 --> 01:14:48,776
I can't turn around no I
1099
01:14:48,818 --> 01:14:51,362
I can't turn around,
no, oh, ooh I
1100
01:14:51,404 --> 01:14:55,825
I I am a d.J. I am what I say I
1101
01:14:55,866 --> 01:15:00,037
I can't turn around no,
can't turn around, no, oh no I
1102
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:04,083
I I am a d.J.,
I am what I play I
1103
01:15:04,125 --> 01:15:06,877
I I've got believers I
1104
01:15:06,919 --> 01:15:10,923
I believing me, oh... I
1105
01:15:10,965 --> 01:15:12,275
interviewer:
What are you gonna do now?
1106
01:15:12,299 --> 01:15:13,527
Are you going back home to bed?
1107
01:15:13,551 --> 01:15:15,261
David: Yes. Well, I don't know.
1108
01:15:15,302 --> 01:15:17,805
A bit in the mood to
probably do a little writing
1109
01:15:17,847 --> 01:15:20,016
or painting or something.
1110
01:15:20,057 --> 01:15:22,018
Interviewer: You're painting
in large canvases?
1111
01:15:22,059 --> 01:15:23,394
Or small canvases? Or drawings?
1112
01:15:23,436 --> 01:15:25,521
David:
Yes. Quire large, acrylics.
1113
01:15:25,563 --> 01:15:27,606
I'm doing a lot
of sculptures as well.
1114
01:15:27,648 --> 01:15:31,944
A sort of polythene and
essential functional things.
1115
01:15:33,529 --> 01:15:35,740
Interviewer:
Why are you creative, David?
1116
01:15:35,781 --> 01:15:38,034
David: I think
it has something to do
1117
01:15:38,075 --> 01:15:43,039
with wanting to find the place
where I can kind of set sail
1118
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,125
and know that I won't really
fall off the edge of the world
1119
01:15:46,167 --> 01:15:47,668
when I get
to the end of the sea.
1120
01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:51,422
I find it
an intoxicating parallel
1121
01:15:51,464 --> 01:15:53,591
to my perceived reality.
1122
01:16:14,028 --> 01:16:16,072
I'm not sure
that I'm manifesting ideas
1123
01:16:16,113 --> 01:16:17,782
when I do my work.
1124
01:16:17,823 --> 01:16:20,826
It's just
this inexhaustible supply
1125
01:16:20,868 --> 01:16:24,830
of extracurricular thoughts
1126
01:16:24,872 --> 01:16:26,499
that I have
that don't actually apply
1127
01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:28,084
to the survival of life,
1128
01:16:28,125 --> 01:16:29,919
and I'm not quite sure
what to do with them.
1129
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,048
I he used to be my boss
and now he is a puppet dancer I
1130
01:16:34,090 --> 01:16:38,469
I I am the d.J.,
and I've got believers I
1131
01:16:40,513 --> 01:16:43,140
I I got believers I
1132
01:16:44,683 --> 01:16:47,436
I I got believers I
1133
01:16:49,063 --> 01:16:53,943
I I got believers,
believing me... I
1134
01:17:00,866 --> 01:17:02,618
David: So rather than
be pinned down,
1135
01:17:02,660 --> 01:17:05,871
my momentum
was to hit and run very fast.
1136
01:17:05,913 --> 01:17:07,289
Once I'd done something,
1137
01:17:07,331 --> 01:17:09,250
and said it,
drop it and move on.
1138
01:17:28,352 --> 01:17:31,188
David: I feel quite at home
in just about anywhere now,
1139
01:17:31,230 --> 01:17:32,898
on a temporary basis.
1140
01:17:32,940 --> 01:17:35,901
Interviewer: Where do you spend
most of your time?
1141
01:17:35,943 --> 01:17:37,462
David: Again, what is
"most of one's time"?
1142
01:17:37,486 --> 01:17:39,947
Over the last year,
it's been London,
1143
01:17:39,989 --> 01:17:43,701
New York, south pacific,
Australia, Africa...
1144
01:17:43,742 --> 01:17:45,369
The nature of my life
1145
01:17:45,411 --> 01:17:48,455
is one of an old-fashioned
beatnik traveler,
1146
01:17:48,497 --> 01:17:50,499
and more than anything else,
1147
01:17:50,541 --> 01:17:54,211
I spend very little time
in musical circles.
1148
01:17:54,253 --> 01:17:57,715
I spend more time discovering
the social life
1149
01:17:57,756 --> 01:17:59,884
of rather obscure places.
1150
01:18:01,594 --> 01:18:07,266
I "I'm happy,
hope you're happy too I
1151
01:18:07,308 --> 01:18:10,436
I I've loved
all I've needed, love I
1152
01:18:10,477 --> 01:18:14,315
aj' sordid details following" I
1153
01:18:14,356 --> 01:18:17,526
I the shrieking of nothing
is killing, just I
1154
01:18:17,568 --> 01:18:21,947
I pictures of jap girls
in synthesis and I I
1155
01:18:21,989 --> 01:18:25,576
I ain't got no money
and I ain't got no hair I
1156
01:18:29,872 --> 01:18:34,084
I but I'm hoping to kick,
but the planet it's glowing I
1157
01:18:37,379 --> 01:18:41,133
I ashes to ash, funk to funky I
1158
01:18:41,175 --> 01:18:45,221
I we know major Tom's a junkie I
1159
01:18:45,262 --> 01:18:48,265
I strung out in heaven's high I
1160
01:18:48,307 --> 01:18:51,518
I hitting an all-time low... I
1161
01:19:06,742 --> 01:19:10,120
Man: This is your promised land
is it not?
1162
01:19:10,162 --> 01:19:13,666
Roof, food, care, protection.
1163
01:19:14,959 --> 01:19:17,586
David: Oh, right, Mr. Treves.
1164
01:19:17,628 --> 01:19:20,214
Man: I'll bet you don't know
what to call this.
1165
01:19:20,256 --> 01:19:22,383
David: No, sir. I don't.
1166
01:19:22,424 --> 01:19:24,385
Man: You call it... home.
1167
01:19:27,137 --> 01:19:29,515
Never had a home before.
1168
01:19:29,556 --> 01:19:30,891
Man: You have one now.
1169
01:19:30,933 --> 01:19:32,101
Say it, John.
1170
01:19:32,142 --> 01:19:33,519
- Home.
- Home?
1171
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,396
Man: No, no.
I mean really say it.
1172
01:19:35,437 --> 01:19:37,564
"I have a home.
1173
01:19:37,606 --> 01:19:39,608
This is my... "Come on.
1174
01:19:40,776 --> 01:19:42,027
David: I have a home.
1175
01:19:43,237 --> 01:19:49,410
This is my home.
1176
01:19:49,451 --> 01:19:52,997
This is my home.
1177
01:19:53,998 --> 01:19:55,624
I have a home.
1178
01:19:56,834 --> 01:20:00,421
I have, for as long as I like.
1179
01:20:03,340 --> 01:20:06,010
Man: That is what home is.
1180
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:18,480
David: I had always thought
1181
01:20:18,522 --> 01:20:20,941
that by this stage I would be
settled down somewhere
1182
01:20:20,983 --> 01:20:23,193
with a house and grounds
and everything,
1183
01:20:23,235 --> 01:20:24,945
but I never got to doing that.
1184
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:34,538
Never... I've never bought
a house,
1185
01:20:34,580 --> 01:20:36,457
and I still have
no intention to buy...
1186
01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:40,753
Because with me,
1187
01:20:40,794 --> 01:20:44,173
the way I live is very much
also part of the...
1188
01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:45,632
What produces my work,
1189
01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:49,386
so I have to keep examining
my life
1190
01:20:49,428 --> 01:20:52,097
to make sure that I am
in constant change,
1191
01:20:52,139 --> 01:20:57,394
and not getting too bloated
with philosophic opulence.
1192
01:20:57,436 --> 01:21:00,105
Keep sort of throwing bits
and pieces away.
1193
01:21:00,147 --> 01:21:03,192
And by... to change countries
is one way of doing that.
1194
01:21:10,157 --> 01:21:11,992
I'm not quite sure
where to go now.
1195
01:21:12,034 --> 01:21:17,164
Um, the east beckons me.
1196
01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:18,725
I'm a bit scared
of moving over there, you know?
1197
01:21:18,749 --> 01:21:20,250
Interviewer: Japan?
1198
01:21:20,292 --> 01:21:22,544
David: Yes, because I fall
in love so much
1199
01:21:22,586 --> 01:21:24,588
with the lifestyle that
I'll get very zen about it.
1200
01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:41,730
Japanese interviewer: Please
give us your special message
1201
01:21:41,772 --> 01:21:44,483
to the audience of our program,
"young oh! Oh!"
1202
01:21:45,651 --> 01:21:47,277
Look at the camera, please.
1203
01:21:47,319 --> 01:21:49,738
David: Uh, don't waste any day.
Don't waste a minute.
1204
01:21:49,780 --> 01:21:51,448
Interviewer: Yes.
1205
01:21:51,490 --> 01:21:53,409
Mr. David bowie.
1206
01:21:53,450 --> 01:21:54,743
Thank you again.
1207
01:22:09,758 --> 01:22:11,802
David: I hope that none of us
are kind of static
1208
01:22:11,844 --> 01:22:13,387
throughout our lives.
1209
01:22:13,429 --> 01:22:16,473
I mean, I guess one has
a formed personality
1210
01:22:16,515 --> 01:22:17,975
from quite an early age,
1211
01:22:18,016 --> 01:22:20,394
but it is tempered
and subject to change.
1212
01:22:24,064 --> 01:22:26,191
I mean,
we all to a certain extent
1213
01:22:26,233 --> 01:22:29,403
create our lives
and create our culture daily,
1214
01:22:29,445 --> 01:22:31,113
as we live that 24 hours.
1215
01:22:31,155 --> 01:22:34,658
We'll choose a tie,
or a haircut, or a chair,
1216
01:22:34,700 --> 01:22:35,969
not just
because it's functional,
1217
01:22:35,993 --> 01:22:37,619
but for most of us
1218
01:22:37,661 --> 01:22:39,381
because it actually
says something about us.
1219
01:22:41,623 --> 01:22:44,209
I still, you know,
am sort of getting somewhere
1220
01:22:44,251 --> 01:22:47,004
that I quite like,
but I'm still not.
1221
01:22:47,045 --> 01:22:48,505
We'll find out eventually,
won't we?
1222
01:22:50,757 --> 01:22:53,051
I might now be cut out
for all this, really,
1223
01:22:53,093 --> 01:22:55,095
at the end.
1224
01:22:55,137 --> 01:22:56,614
Interviewer:
Why did you change so often?
1225
01:22:56,638 --> 01:22:57,782
I mean,
what was the need for it?
1226
01:22:57,806 --> 01:22:58,891
Was it just a gimmick?
1227
01:22:58,932 --> 01:23:00,392
David: Being a capricorn.
1228
01:23:00,434 --> 01:23:02,895
I didn't want to expose myself
to the public,
1229
01:23:02,936 --> 01:23:05,063
so I developed a series
of characters.
1230
01:23:05,105 --> 01:23:07,524
So, behind that all the time
was a real David bowie?
1231
01:23:08,317 --> 01:23:09,526
At times, yes.
1232
01:23:09,568 --> 01:23:10,986
I lost control
a couple of times.
1233
01:23:12,613 --> 01:23:14,323
So you're not...
This is really you.
1234
01:23:14,364 --> 01:23:16,604
This is not you just still
sort of playing the role of...
1235
01:23:18,285 --> 01:23:19,620
One wonders.
1236
01:23:19,661 --> 01:23:21,997
I think
that it's not at all mystifying
1237
01:23:22,039 --> 01:23:23,641
why you change your appearance
as often as you do,
1238
01:23:23,665 --> 01:23:25,209
to my view by the way,
1239
01:23:25,250 --> 01:23:29,338
because I think you've
used yourself as a canvas.
1240
01:23:29,379 --> 01:23:31,173
- Yes, very much so.
- Is that right?
1241
01:23:31,215 --> 01:23:32,925
David: Yes, very much so.
1242
01:23:32,966 --> 01:23:37,888
Um, I never wanted to appear
as myself onstage ever,
1243
01:23:37,930 --> 01:23:39,473
at any time, until recently.
1244
01:23:39,515 --> 01:23:43,393
Were you hiding yourself
from us by doing that?
1245
01:23:43,435 --> 01:23:46,230
David: Partly, but I was
enjoying it very much.
1246
01:23:46,271 --> 01:23:48,232
- And, you paint now?
- Yes.
1247
01:23:48,273 --> 01:23:49,858
But your paintings,
you're not willing
1248
01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:51,151
to let us see yet?
1249
01:23:51,193 --> 01:23:52,569
David: Uh, no.
1250
01:23:52,611 --> 01:23:53,713
I've been offered
two or three showings,
1251
01:23:53,737 --> 01:23:55,280
but I've turned...
1252
01:23:55,322 --> 01:23:57,407
I've accepted two of them,
and then I broke my word
1253
01:23:57,449 --> 01:23:59,576
and said I wouldn't show them.
1254
01:23:59,618 --> 01:24:01,411
I haven't yet bucked up
the courage.
1255
01:24:01,453 --> 01:24:04,248
Interviewer: Why not?
What do you fear?
1256
01:24:04,289 --> 01:24:05,769
David:
Well, I know I'm a good writer.
1257
01:24:07,543 --> 01:24:09,503
I'm not sure
about putting my paintings.
1258
01:24:09,545 --> 01:24:11,088
They're very personal
to me, as well.
1259
01:24:11,129 --> 01:24:13,382
Um, they're all portraits,
1260
01:24:13,423 --> 01:24:15,425
and they're portraits
of people in isolation.
1261
01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:19,137
Most of the paintings
are Germans or Turks
1262
01:24:19,179 --> 01:24:21,014
who live in Berlin,
1263
01:24:21,056 --> 01:24:23,308
and they're either
from east Berlin,
1264
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:24,935
and who are now living
in west Berlin,
1265
01:24:24,977 --> 01:24:26,228
and knowing their families
1266
01:24:26,270 --> 01:24:28,188
are on the other side
of the wall.
1267
01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:31,483
And so, I tried to capture
a lot of that isolation
1268
01:24:31,525 --> 01:24:33,944
and I put a lot of myself
into the paintings as well.
1269
01:24:33,986 --> 01:24:35,146
They're very much part of me.
1270
01:24:53,797 --> 01:24:55,716
Dick: Well, I think
the question is what...
1271
01:24:55,757 --> 01:24:58,885
You know, what you want to be
for yourself and your life.
1272
01:24:58,927 --> 01:25:00,780
David: I don't know whether
that's important anymore.
1273
01:25:00,804 --> 01:25:03,056
I mean, what I want
to do is just work well.
1274
01:25:03,098 --> 01:25:05,475
When I'm working well,
I like my writing.
1275
01:25:05,517 --> 01:25:07,019
At the moment, especially.
1276
01:25:07,060 --> 01:25:08,812
More than at any other time,
I think.
1277
01:25:08,854 --> 01:25:11,231
I mean, I was getting so bored
with what I was writing.
1278
01:25:11,273 --> 01:25:13,609
I just, I felt inadequate,
I thought my writing
1279
01:25:13,650 --> 01:25:15,068
was becoming monotonous.
1280
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:16,987
I didn't take
the kinds of chances
1281
01:25:17,029 --> 01:25:18,196
I was taking at one time.
1282
01:25:19,740 --> 01:25:21,825
I thought if I'm going
to end up like,
1283
01:25:23,827 --> 01:25:27,414
um, a lot of other rock
and roll celebrities,
1284
01:25:27,456 --> 01:25:28,999
inasmuch
that I'm going to be trying
1285
01:25:29,041 --> 01:25:30,959
to retain the safe position,
you know?
1286
01:25:31,001 --> 01:25:33,170
And that's not what
I started out wanting to do.
1287
01:25:33,211 --> 01:25:35,273
Dick: But is it important to you
to have a mass audience?
1288
01:25:35,297 --> 01:25:36,399
Do you want a lot of people to...
1289
01:25:36,423 --> 01:25:37,466
David: No. No.
1290
01:25:37,507 --> 01:25:39,009
I want to work well.
1291
01:25:39,051 --> 01:25:41,595
I want to...
I just have to work well.
1292
01:25:44,348 --> 01:25:46,516
I think it's
an heroic act to take,
1293
01:25:46,558 --> 01:25:51,647
um... to be able
to obtain enthusiasm
1294
01:25:51,688 --> 01:25:55,025
and joy from the actual process
of living from day to day.
1295
01:25:55,067 --> 01:25:56,526
Interviewer:
1296
01:25:56,568 --> 01:25:57,694
David: Yes, very much.
1297
01:25:57,736 --> 01:26:01,531
I try. And it is, it is...
1298
01:26:01,573 --> 01:26:03,742
I think it takes practice to,
1299
01:26:03,784 --> 01:26:07,287
and concentration,
and exercise to enjoy it.
1300
01:26:07,329 --> 01:26:10,540
This is very easy to fall
into the trap of looking
1301
01:26:10,582 --> 01:26:13,877
for one's dreams and always
thinking of a future moment
1302
01:26:13,919 --> 01:26:15,545
when everything will be better.
1303
01:26:15,587 --> 01:26:17,714
And if the process
is not enjoyed,
1304
01:26:17,756 --> 01:26:19,424
the dreams will never come
to anything.
1305
01:26:19,466 --> 01:26:21,802
And by enjoying the process,
1306
01:26:21,843 --> 01:26:23,428
you are creating
a dream come true.
1307
01:26:33,897 --> 01:26:37,150
I think I have an abundantly
healthy curiosity about life.
1308
01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:39,945
About life around me,
specifically.
1309
01:26:39,986 --> 01:26:43,573
And how, how we put
ourselves together culturally,
1310
01:26:43,615 --> 01:26:46,326
and I think it's served me well
as an artist,
1311
01:26:46,368 --> 01:26:50,831
in as much as I'm really
inquiring continually
1312
01:26:50,872 --> 01:26:53,458
into how things are made
and why we make them,
1313
01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:58,046
and the significance
or meanings behind things.
1314
01:27:01,967 --> 01:27:06,096
I'd be really scared of feeling
that I'd got somewhere,
1315
01:27:06,138 --> 01:27:09,433
because for me,
art is about searching,
1316
01:27:09,474 --> 01:27:10,934
and if you come to a place
1317
01:27:10,976 --> 01:27:12,936
where you think
you've made a discovery,
1318
01:27:12,978 --> 01:27:14,813
I think that really is...
1319
01:27:17,232 --> 01:27:19,317
God, that would be
really demoralizing.
1320
01:27:19,359 --> 01:27:21,278
I think the search is the thing.
1321
01:27:23,488 --> 01:27:25,323
I and you want to believe I
1322
01:27:27,159 --> 01:27:29,119
I and we want to believe I
1323
01:27:30,495 --> 01:27:32,330
I and we want to live I
1324
01:27:33,915 --> 01:27:35,792
I oh, we want to live I
1325
01:27:37,753 --> 01:27:39,296
I we want to live I
1326
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:42,924
I we want to live I
1327
01:27:44,968 --> 01:27:46,511
I we want to live I
1328
01:27:48,430 --> 01:27:49,931
I we want to live I
1329
01:27:51,933 --> 01:27:53,685
I we want to live I
1330
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,314
I I want to live I
1331
01:27:59,232 --> 01:28:01,109
I I want to live I
1332
01:28:02,903 --> 01:28:04,738
I I want to live I
1333
01:28:06,490 --> 01:28:08,658
I I want to live I
1334
01:28:10,452 --> 01:28:12,496
I I want to live I
1335
01:28:13,955 --> 01:28:16,124
I I want to live I
1336
01:28:18,502 --> 01:28:19,711
I live I
1337
01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:24,007
I live I
1338
01:28:25,842 --> 01:28:28,011
I live I
1339
01:28:52,077 --> 01:28:55,580
I ain't that just like me. I
1340
01:30:29,090 --> 01:30:32,135
David: There's a gradual shift
when you reach mid 30s.
1341
01:30:32,177 --> 01:30:33,762
Uh, I think that
there's a period
1342
01:30:33,803 --> 01:30:36,932
where you have
to decide not to try
1343
01:30:36,973 --> 01:30:41,603
and grasp frantically
for the feelings of desperation
1344
01:30:41,645 --> 01:30:44,773
and anger that you have
when you're in your mid 20s.
1345
01:30:44,814 --> 01:30:49,402
And if you can relax into
the idea that being mid 30s
1346
01:30:49,444 --> 01:30:51,071
is quite a nice place to be
1347
01:30:51,112 --> 01:30:52,822
with an amount of experience
behind you,
1348
01:30:54,407 --> 01:30:56,284
I think the perspective changes.
1349
01:31:03,333 --> 01:31:04,352
Interviewer:
You said once that there's
1350
01:31:04,376 --> 01:31:06,169
so many shells around you
1351
01:31:06,211 --> 01:31:07,772
that you don't know what
the p... looks like anymore.
1352
01:31:07,796 --> 01:31:09,231
David: Yeah,
well I've gone through that.
1353
01:31:09,255 --> 01:31:11,675
I'm pretty aware
of what I'm like.
1354
01:31:11,716 --> 01:31:13,510
- Interviewer: Really?
- David: Yeah, yeah.
1355
01:31:13,551 --> 01:31:16,680
I feel pretty-pretty happy
about my own relationship
1356
01:31:16,721 --> 01:31:17,722
to the world, and...
1357
01:31:21,059 --> 01:31:25,647
We've got to be positive
about our days on this planet.
1358
01:31:25,689 --> 01:31:28,191
Interviewer: I never realized
you were such an optimist.
1359
01:31:28,233 --> 01:31:29,713
David: Well,
I never was particularly.
1360
01:31:30,986 --> 01:31:32,445
Interviewer:
You're more romantic
1361
01:31:32,487 --> 01:31:35,115
than people give you credit for.
1362
01:31:35,156 --> 01:31:37,075
David: I think I'm probably
a lot more emotional
1363
01:31:37,117 --> 01:31:39,786
than people would think
that I was.
1364
01:31:39,828 --> 01:31:42,539
I am emotionally very
responsive to life and people.
1365
01:31:46,710 --> 01:31:49,379
I just wanted to come in touch
with a common factor
1366
01:31:49,421 --> 01:31:51,256
because I feel a need
at the moment to...
1367
01:31:52,465 --> 01:31:54,884
Be part of a society again,
1368
01:31:54,926 --> 01:31:56,469
and having traveled
an awful lot,
1369
01:31:56,511 --> 01:31:59,305
feel more and more
part of everything.
1370
01:31:59,347 --> 01:32:01,057
And I wish
to express that feeling.
1371
01:32:01,099 --> 01:32:04,102
I don't want to seem
as though I'm detached and cold
1372
01:32:04,144 --> 01:32:05,603
because I'm not.
1373
01:32:09,232 --> 01:32:11,151
Interviewer: You seem very sure
of yourself,
1374
01:32:11,192 --> 01:32:13,236
and very,
sort of content, and...
1375
01:32:13,278 --> 01:32:14,738
You seem at ease with yourself.
1376
01:32:14,779 --> 01:32:16,219
David: I'm at ease
with myself, yeah.
1377
01:32:22,662 --> 01:32:23,931
Interviewer:
You've always been so good
1378
01:32:23,955 --> 01:32:26,207
at being convincing, you know?
1379
01:32:26,249 --> 01:32:28,710
- Whatever it was at the time.
- David: Yeah. I see.
1380
01:32:28,752 --> 01:32:30,670
Interviewer: I mean,
is it possible that this
1381
01:32:30,712 --> 01:32:34,424
- is just another role?
- David: I see what's going on.
1382
01:32:34,466 --> 01:32:36,676
I believe that there is a thread
1383
01:32:36,718 --> 01:32:38,970
of meaning running
through my life at the moment,
1384
01:32:39,012 --> 01:32:40,692
that I have no wish
at the moment to break,
1385
01:32:40,722 --> 01:32:42,140
and I feel it's leading
1386
01:32:42,182 --> 01:32:44,267
somewhere fulfilling
and positive.
1387
01:32:44,309 --> 01:32:47,145
And if I feel that way,
then I make every effort
1388
01:32:47,187 --> 01:32:49,606
to make that part
of my music now.
1389
01:32:54,319 --> 01:32:56,529
It's the ultimate swing
of the pendulum.
1390
01:32:56,571 --> 01:32:58,782
When things reach a point
to one extreme,
1391
01:32:58,823 --> 01:33:00,366
there will be
a natural gravitation
1392
01:33:00,408 --> 01:33:02,243
back to a point,
1393
01:33:02,285 --> 01:33:04,204
which is the antithesis
of that one.
1394
01:33:04,245 --> 01:33:06,247
So, you've got
a musical vocabulary,
1395
01:33:06,289 --> 01:33:10,376
which is high-tech, and icy.
1396
01:33:10,418 --> 01:33:13,338
There's gonna be sooner
or later a swing back to,
1397
01:33:13,379 --> 01:33:16,216
well, what is the other side
of that coin?
1398
01:33:16,257 --> 01:33:17,937
Man: Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. David bowie.
1399
01:33:23,556 --> 01:33:26,351
David: I'd like to, um,
start off the 80s
1400
01:33:26,392 --> 01:33:29,270
in a positive,
optimistic fashion.
1401
01:33:29,312 --> 01:33:32,148
I'll be undertaking,
a world tour,
1402
01:33:32,190 --> 01:33:34,067
sometime around the middle
of the year,
1403
01:33:34,109 --> 01:33:38,071
and it'll take me through
to the Autumn at least.
1404
01:33:38,113 --> 01:33:40,156
And he's back. David bowie,
1405
01:33:40,198 --> 01:33:42,408
launching his
first new album in three years,
1406
01:33:42,450 --> 01:33:45,328
preparing for his first
British tour in five years,
1407
01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:47,372
and telling newsnight's
Robin denselow
1408
01:33:47,413 --> 01:33:50,375
about his new
and more emotional music style.
1409
01:33:51,876 --> 01:33:54,546
David: I'm trying to write
in a more obvious
1410
01:33:54,587 --> 01:33:56,172
and positive manner.
1411
01:33:56,214 --> 01:33:59,425
I've not gone quite
into a corner
1412
01:33:59,467 --> 01:34:01,928
with experimentation of sound.
1413
01:34:01,970 --> 01:34:04,764
I'm not quite so concerned
with cut-up exercise,
1414
01:34:04,806 --> 01:34:07,392
or using juxtaposition
of lyrics, or whatever.
1415
01:34:07,433 --> 01:34:09,269
I'd like to do
something positive.
1416
01:34:09,310 --> 01:34:11,938
Something that helps people,
to use a cliche.
1417
01:34:13,481 --> 01:34:14,708
David: This is probably
the simplest music
1418
01:34:14,732 --> 01:34:16,109
I've ever done.
1419
01:34:16,151 --> 01:34:17,545
Interviewer:
What do you mean simple?
1420
01:34:17,569 --> 01:34:20,321
David: It makes very warm,
1421
01:34:20,363 --> 01:34:22,282
understandable
musical statements.
1422
01:34:22,323 --> 01:34:24,159
It has a warm response.
1423
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,871
I hope that it's the most
emotionally uplifting music
1424
01:34:27,912 --> 01:34:29,956
I've made in a long time.
1425
01:34:29,998 --> 01:34:31,583
It's very positive.
1426
01:34:31,624 --> 01:34:33,209
Interviewer:
Is that how you're feeling?
1427
01:34:33,251 --> 01:34:35,128
David: Relatively. Oh yeah.
1428
01:34:35,170 --> 01:34:36,504
I'm very positive.
1429
01:34:37,755 --> 01:34:38,965
I never gonna fall for I
1430
01:34:39,007 --> 01:34:40,216
j“ modern love I
1431
01:34:40,258 --> 01:34:41,509
I walks beside me I
1432
01:34:41,551 --> 01:34:42,802
j“ modern love I
1433
01:34:42,844 --> 01:34:43,803
I walks on by I
1434
01:34:43,845 --> 01:34:45,263
j“ modern love I
1435
01:34:45,305 --> 01:34:48,766
I gets me to the church
on time I
1436
01:34:48,808 --> 01:34:50,894
reporter: British fans
are overwhelming
1437
01:34:50,935 --> 01:34:53,271
the post office with more
than four times
1438
01:34:53,313 --> 01:34:56,566
as many ticket requests
as seats available.
1439
01:34:56,608 --> 01:34:59,068
This is the biggest demand ever.
1440
01:34:59,110 --> 01:35:01,070
Boy: We waited hours
and hours to get tickets.
1441
01:35:01,112 --> 01:35:02,197
Interviewer: Big bowie fan?
1442
01:35:02,238 --> 01:35:03,323
Man: Yeah, that's me.
1443
01:35:03,364 --> 01:35:04,490
Woman: He's totally evolved.
1444
01:35:04,532 --> 01:35:05,950
He knows what his fans want,
1445
01:35:05,992 --> 01:35:07,452
and that's what
he's delivering now.
1446
01:35:07,493 --> 01:35:09,829
I love David bowie!
1447
01:35:09,871 --> 01:35:11,473
Reporter: Fans have
been waiting a day and a half
1448
01:35:11,497 --> 01:35:12,749
in the stadium parking lot.
1449
01:35:12,790 --> 01:35:14,334
They open the gates at 5pm.
1450
01:35:14,375 --> 01:35:16,878
We want bowie!
1451
01:35:18,504 --> 01:35:19,839
J“ modern love I
1452
01:35:19,881 --> 01:35:20,882
j“ modern love I
1453
01:35:22,508 --> 01:35:24,677
j“ modern love I
1454
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:27,513
emcee: Ladies and gentlemen...
1455
01:35:29,015 --> 01:35:32,435
David bowie and his band!
1456
01:35:40,401 --> 01:35:41,629
Man: What is it
about David bowie
1457
01:35:41,653 --> 01:35:43,446
that excites you so much?
1458
01:35:43,488 --> 01:35:44,822
- His style.
- Yeah?
1459
01:35:44,864 --> 01:35:46,115
I like his makeup.
1460
01:35:46,157 --> 01:35:47,450
Man: You like his makeup?
1461
01:35:47,492 --> 01:35:48,743
Woman: I like his music.
1462
01:35:50,453 --> 01:35:52,956
Band: I let's dance I
1463
01:35:52,997 --> 01:35:58,086
David: I put on your red shoes
and dance the blues I
1464
01:35:58,127 --> 01:36:00,255
band: I let's dance I
1465
01:36:00,296 --> 01:36:04,133
David: I to the song
they're playin' on the radio I
1466
01:36:05,802 --> 01:36:08,012
band: I let's sway I
1467
01:36:08,054 --> 01:36:10,598
David: J“ while color
lights up your face I
1468
01:36:13,476 --> 01:36:15,812
band: I let's sway I
1469
01:36:15,853 --> 01:36:19,691
David: J“ sway through the crowd
to an empty space I
1470
01:36:22,735 --> 01:36:27,407
I if you say run
I'll run with you I
1471
01:36:30,326 --> 01:36:33,121
I and if you say hide I
1472
01:36:33,162 --> 01:36:34,914
I we'll hide I
1473
01:36:37,458 --> 01:36:40,712
I because my love for you I
1474
01:36:40,753 --> 01:36:44,757
I would break my heart in two I
1475
01:36:44,799 --> 01:36:48,970
I if you should fall
into my arms I
1476
01:36:49,012 --> 01:36:54,267
I trembling like a flower I
1477
01:37:20,501 --> 01:37:23,212
Band: I let's dance I
1478
01:37:23,254 --> 01:37:26,966
David: I put on your red shoes
and dance the blues I
1479
01:37:28,217 --> 01:37:30,470
band: I let's dance I
1480
01:37:30,511 --> 01:37:34,182
David: J“ under the moonlight I
1481
01:37:34,223 --> 01:37:36,309
I this serious moonlight I
1482
01:37:36,351 --> 01:37:37,352
band: I let's sway I
1483
01:37:43,399 --> 01:37:44,400
I let's sway I
1484
01:37:50,990 --> 01:37:52,033
I let's dance I
1485
01:37:58,539 --> 01:37:59,665
I let's dance I
1486
01:38:06,172 --> 01:38:07,715
I let's dance I
1487
01:38:13,846 --> 01:38:14,972
I let's dance I
1488
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,685
David: J“ let's dance,
let's dance I
1489
01:38:19,727 --> 01:38:21,854
I let's dance, let's dance. I
1490
01:38:33,157 --> 01:38:34,534
Audience: Bowie!
1491
01:38:34,575 --> 01:38:35,993
Bowie!
1492
01:38:36,035 --> 01:38:37,662
Bowie!
1493
01:38:37,703 --> 01:38:39,831
Bowie! Bowie!
1494
01:38:44,168 --> 01:38:45,854
Interviewer: Do you think
they phenomenal success
1495
01:38:45,878 --> 01:38:48,256
of the tour marks
the rebirth of bowie fever?
1496
01:38:49,507 --> 01:38:51,092
David: No, I don't think that.
1497
01:38:51,134 --> 01:38:53,219
But I think it's just
a bowie acceptance now,
1498
01:38:53,261 --> 01:38:56,222
which is quite gratifying
after all these years.
1499
01:39:11,070 --> 01:39:12,756
Didn't think I'd ever
hear myself saying this,
1500
01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:14,407
but it's like the audience
1501
01:39:14,449 --> 01:39:16,284
and myself are just,
like, together.
1502
01:39:16,325 --> 01:39:17,660
It's trying to come back
1503
01:39:17,702 --> 01:39:19,829
to being a person again
in terms...
1504
01:39:19,871 --> 01:39:21,622
In the eyes of the audience,
1505
01:39:21,664 --> 01:39:23,291
and it certainly
has no pretensions
1506
01:39:23,332 --> 01:39:25,376
to be a serious,
1507
01:39:25,418 --> 01:39:29,964
heavy statement-filled show,
but I mean,
1508
01:39:30,006 --> 01:39:31,507
it's exactly
what I want it to be.
1509
01:39:35,636 --> 01:39:37,197
Interviewer:
What do you most enjoy doing?
1510
01:39:37,221 --> 01:39:38,931
David: In life, at the moment?
1511
01:39:41,225 --> 01:39:43,269
Waking up and feeling
as though I've got a future.
1512
01:39:45,021 --> 01:39:48,149
I keep remembering
that there is a tomorrow,
1513
01:39:48,191 --> 01:39:50,151
when that never really occurred
to me before,
1514
01:39:50,193 --> 01:39:51,569
that there was a tomorrow.
1515
01:39:51,611 --> 01:39:54,322
Tomorrow was really,
"this is it.
1516
01:39:54,363 --> 01:39:56,574
"This is now, this is important.
1517
01:39:56,616 --> 01:39:58,784
"Everything else is crazy,
and static,
1518
01:39:58,826 --> 01:40:01,871
"and it means nothing,
or everything's impermanent,
1519
01:40:01,913 --> 01:40:04,499
therefore I will just live
for the second."
1520
01:40:06,250 --> 01:40:09,253
And one has to start taking
very positive stands on things.
1521
01:40:15,301 --> 01:40:16,928
When you feel comfortable
with yourself,
1522
01:40:16,969 --> 01:40:18,596
you can no longer write.
1523
01:40:18,638 --> 01:40:22,058
That seems to be
the writer's great problem.
1524
01:40:22,099 --> 01:40:25,603
As I get more comfortable,
I obviously have the feeling
1525
01:40:25,645 --> 01:40:29,148
that it's not so much that
is my writing as good,
1526
01:40:29,190 --> 01:40:32,860
or as potent as it used to be,
but do I need to write anymore?
1527
01:41:01,597 --> 01:41:05,309
Man: His new album seems
to be, to me, a step sideways.
1528
01:41:05,351 --> 01:41:06,411
Interviewer:
Why do you describe it
1529
01:41:06,435 --> 01:41:07,770
that... in that way?
1530
01:41:07,812 --> 01:41:09,272
Man: Because I think
he's not doing
1531
01:41:09,313 --> 01:41:10,982
anything particularly new,
1532
01:41:11,023 --> 01:41:14,110
and I suspect that
for the first time ever,
1533
01:41:14,151 --> 01:41:18,573
the fans are up there with him
and he's not ahead of the game.
1534
01:41:18,614 --> 01:41:21,951
He seems to me to have become
something rather old fashioned,
1535
01:41:21,993 --> 01:41:24,120
which is to say a superstar.
1536
01:41:38,259 --> 01:41:41,220
If you've gone mainstream,
there's only one way to do it,
1537
01:41:41,262 --> 01:41:43,139
and that's sell out
three days a year.
1538
01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:44,265
Man 2: Really do it.
1539
01:41:44,307 --> 01:41:45,850
Man: Yeah, yeah.
1540
01:41:45,891 --> 01:41:47,451
He's done it in one big deal,
hasn't he?
1541
01:41:50,938 --> 01:41:52,481
Interviewer:
This is the last stop
1542
01:41:52,523 --> 01:41:54,984
on what's been a pretty
extensive tour for you.
1543
01:41:55,026 --> 01:41:57,278
David: Uh, yeah, I'm not
actually finishing in Auckland.
1544
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:58,738
I'm going over now
1545
01:41:58,779 --> 01:42:01,032
to Singapore,
Hong Kong, and Bangkok.
1546
01:42:02,241 --> 01:42:04,452
I I've nothing much to offer I
1547
01:42:07,496 --> 01:42:10,458
I there's nothing much to take I
1548
01:42:22,261 --> 01:42:24,847
I I'm an absolute beginner I
1549
01:42:27,642 --> 01:42:32,563
I but I'm absolutely sane I
1550
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,028
I'm not quite so stricken
with the idea
1551
01:42:39,070 --> 01:42:41,113
of making a point.
1552
01:42:41,155 --> 01:42:43,282
I'm not quite sure
that any point
1553
01:42:43,324 --> 01:42:45,910
that I have to make
isn't being made quite as well
1554
01:42:45,951 --> 01:42:47,411
by other people.
1555
01:42:47,453 --> 01:42:50,915
Um, and that maybe the point,
1556
01:42:50,956 --> 01:42:52,291
my most important point,
1557
01:42:52,333 --> 01:42:54,126
is that I can entertain
very well,
1558
01:42:54,168 --> 01:42:57,713
and I think I'm no longer
finding it uncomfortable
1559
01:42:57,755 --> 01:43:01,676
to reach that conclusion.
1560
01:43:03,094 --> 01:43:05,846
That I now find
I'm very comfortable
1561
01:43:05,888 --> 01:43:08,641
being an actor, an entertainer,
1562
01:43:08,683 --> 01:43:12,269
without too much
all-encompassing stuff.
1563
01:43:12,311 --> 01:43:13,854
J“ time takes a cigarette I
1564
01:43:16,065 --> 01:43:17,441
I puts it in your mouth I
1565
01:43:19,527 --> 01:43:21,737
I you pull on your finger I
1566
01:43:21,779 --> 01:43:24,990
I then another finger
then your cigarette I
1567
01:43:26,409 --> 01:43:29,286
I the wall-to-wall is calling I
1568
01:43:29,328 --> 01:43:33,249
I it lingers,
but still you forget I
1569
01:43:33,290 --> 01:43:36,335
I ohhh I
1570
01:43:36,377 --> 01:43:38,629
I you're a rock and roll
suicide I
1571
01:43:41,257 --> 01:43:43,092
I you're too young to lose it I
1572
01:43:44,969 --> 01:43:47,346
I but you're too old
to lose it I
1573
01:43:49,515 --> 01:43:53,978
I and the clocks waits
so patiently on your song I
1574
01:43:55,271 --> 01:43:58,482
I well, you walk past a cafe I
1575
01:43:58,524 --> 01:44:01,527
I but you can't eat
when you've lived too long... I
1576
01:44:01,569 --> 01:44:03,571
man: Pepsi continues
to innovate,
1577
01:44:03,612 --> 01:44:05,364
by capturing what's new,
1578
01:44:05,406 --> 01:44:08,284
what's contemporary,
and what's hot.
1579
01:44:08,325 --> 01:44:10,327
The glass spider tour
will be all of that.
1580
01:44:10,369 --> 01:44:14,206
I now the chev brakes
are snarling I
1581
01:44:14,248 --> 01:44:15,958
I as you stumble
across the road I
1582
01:44:17,668 --> 01:44:20,504
interviewer: You always have
that segment of people
1583
01:44:20,546 --> 01:44:22,006
who are with you from the start
1584
01:44:22,047 --> 01:44:24,467
and if you know bowie,
you know he's sold out.
1585
01:44:24,508 --> 01:44:28,053
David: I don't begrudge any
artist for getting an audience.
1586
01:44:28,095 --> 01:44:31,223
I'm sorry, I never found
that poverty meant purity.
1587
01:44:31,265 --> 01:44:33,100
Interviewer:
For a guy who doesn't like
1588
01:44:33,142 --> 01:44:35,478
to play it safe, though,
as the audience gets larger,
1589
01:44:35,519 --> 01:44:37,396
it must be harder
to take those chances.
1590
01:44:38,814 --> 01:44:41,609
I oh no, love,
you're not alone I
1591
01:44:43,319 --> 01:44:47,323
I you're watching yourself
but you're too unfair I
1592
01:44:47,364 --> 01:44:50,409
I you got your head
all tangled up I
1593
01:44:50,451 --> 01:44:54,038
I but if I could only
make you care I
1594
01:44:54,079 --> 01:44:55,581
here I was,
making lots of money,
1595
01:44:55,623 --> 01:44:57,458
performing
to these huge audiences,
1596
01:44:57,500 --> 01:44:59,084
and I thought that's it,
you know?
1597
01:44:59,126 --> 01:45:01,754
I've come to the vacuum
of my life.
1598
01:45:01,796 --> 01:45:05,466
I no matter when
or where you've seen I
1599
01:45:05,508 --> 01:45:08,969
I all the knives
seem to lacerate your brain I
1600
01:45:09,011 --> 01:45:13,849
I I've had my share now
I'll help you with the pain I
1601
01:45:13,891 --> 01:45:15,267
I you're not alone I
1602
01:45:20,022 --> 01:45:23,526
I just turn on with me
and you're not alone I
1603
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:30,324
I just turn on with me
and you're not alone I
1604
01:45:34,245 --> 01:45:37,706
I gimme your hands
cause you're wonderful I
1605
01:45:38,833 --> 01:45:40,584
j'isaidj'
1606
01:45:40,626 --> 01:45:44,463
I gimme your hands
cause you're wonderful I
1607
01:45:47,508 --> 01:45:51,554
I gimme your hands
cause you're wonderful I
1608
01:45:53,222 --> 01:45:57,184
I cause you...
Gimmie your hands I
1609
01:45:57,226 --> 01:45:59,270
I cause you're wonderful I
1610
01:46:01,730 --> 01:46:07,069
I gimme your hands
'cause you're wonderful I
1611
01:46:07,111 --> 01:46:08,362
I gimme your hands I
1612
01:46:11,490 --> 01:46:13,325
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1613
01:46:18,831 --> 01:46:20,708
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1614
01:46:25,921 --> 01:46:27,756
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1615
01:46:32,928 --> 01:46:34,346
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1616
01:46:34,388 --> 01:46:35,389
I'm a young man.
1617
01:46:36,849 --> 01:46:38,893
Do you understand?
1618
01:46:38,934 --> 01:46:40,644
I'm a young man.
1619
01:46:40,686 --> 01:46:42,229
I 'cause you're wonderful. I
1620
01:46:59,455 --> 01:47:02,207
Thank you very much.
Bye bye, we love you.
1621
01:47:31,779 --> 01:47:34,073
David: Even though
it was enormously successful,
1622
01:47:35,574 --> 01:47:37,952
there was no growth
going on at all.
1623
01:47:43,540 --> 01:47:44,935
They were very hard years
to get through
1624
01:47:44,959 --> 01:47:46,585
to find any sense of purpose.
1625
01:47:48,837 --> 01:47:50,714
I wasn't allowing myself
1626
01:47:50,756 --> 01:47:53,592
the service of being
who I really am as an artist.
1627
01:47:55,094 --> 01:47:57,012
I'd given myself
dreadful parameters
1628
01:47:57,054 --> 01:48:01,600
in confining myself to merely
what I presumed people wanted.
1629
01:48:05,729 --> 01:48:07,356
I never wanted to do this.
1630
01:48:07,398 --> 01:48:09,817
I never wanted to be out there
pleasing people.
1631
01:48:09,858 --> 01:48:11,694
I wanted to be really stubborn
1632
01:48:11,735 --> 01:48:13,779
and have people like
what I like.
1633
01:48:13,821 --> 01:48:16,031
Not give them what they like.
1634
01:48:21,870 --> 01:48:25,332
It's very, very easy
to become work-obsessed
1635
01:48:25,374 --> 01:48:27,543
for the reason of not having
to look at oneself.
1636
01:48:31,755 --> 01:48:33,382
I think over the last few years,
1637
01:48:33,424 --> 01:48:35,342
I'm understanding
1638
01:48:35,384 --> 01:48:38,262
a very important thing
in my life,
1639
01:48:38,303 --> 01:48:41,682
which is that I really
have to come back
1640
01:48:41,724 --> 01:48:44,143
to what my life is about.
1641
01:48:44,184 --> 01:48:47,938
That my life is not about
the work that I do.
1642
01:48:47,980 --> 01:48:49,606
My work is not me.
1643
01:48:49,648 --> 01:48:54,820
I am distinctly one entity
that needs looking at.
1644
01:48:57,740 --> 01:48:59,199
When I first looked,
1645
01:48:59,241 --> 01:49:01,994
I just didn't understand
that person,
1646
01:49:02,036 --> 01:49:04,371
because I'd never given myself
the time,
1647
01:49:04,413 --> 01:49:06,040
nor the incentive
1648
01:49:06,081 --> 01:49:09,668
to want to really
have a look at myself, deeply.
1649
01:49:12,755 --> 01:49:15,966
I think the first intrusion
into one's own inner conflicts
1650
01:49:16,008 --> 01:49:18,052
is not the most pleasant
of experiences.
1651
01:49:21,138 --> 01:49:23,515
But working through them
1652
01:49:23,557 --> 01:49:25,350
can really be
one of the greatest adventures
1653
01:49:25,392 --> 01:49:27,061
of one's life,
1654
01:49:27,102 --> 01:49:31,398
and it takes a certain amount
of bravado,
1655
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:34,985
and need, and a realization
1656
01:49:35,027 --> 01:49:37,988
that you're missing out
on your own life.
1657
01:49:39,406 --> 01:49:41,408
You are probably
creating hazards
1658
01:49:41,450 --> 01:49:47,289
and disturbing experiences
for others around you.
1659
01:49:47,331 --> 01:49:49,625
And the house must be put right.
1660
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,164
Interviewer: Do you have
any room in your life
1661
01:50:11,188 --> 01:50:12,981
for any kind of real
relationship like that?
1662
01:50:13,023 --> 01:50:14,703
David: More room than
I've ever had before.
1663
01:50:17,986 --> 01:50:20,239
Interviewer: You've said
that being in love,
1664
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:21,508
you thought was like a disease.
1665
01:50:21,532 --> 01:50:23,283
David: Yeah.
1666
01:50:23,325 --> 01:50:24,677
Interviewer: Horrible,
and it bred jealousy, and...
1667
01:50:24,701 --> 01:50:26,578
David: I think I've...
I think I've...
1668
01:50:26,620 --> 01:50:30,791
I think I've grown to feel
a distaste for that statement.
1669
01:50:55,858 --> 01:50:58,485
Then I met iman,
1670
01:50:58,527 --> 01:51:01,864
and it was smack,
right from the first night.
1671
01:51:01,905 --> 01:51:03,198
That was it. It was over.
1672
01:51:05,909 --> 01:51:06,910
It was incredible.
1673
01:51:10,581 --> 01:51:14,543
My life suddenly became
Rose-tinged.
1674
01:51:16,170 --> 01:51:18,797
I in this age
of grand illusion I
1675
01:51:18,839 --> 01:51:21,133
I you walked into my life I
1676
01:51:21,175 --> 01:51:22,968
I out of my dreams I
1677
01:51:25,971 --> 01:51:28,390
I I don't need another change I
1678
01:51:28,432 --> 01:51:30,100
I still you forced your way I
1679
01:51:30,142 --> 01:51:32,978
I into my scheme of things I
1680
01:51:36,982 --> 01:51:39,318
I you say we're growing I
1681
01:51:40,652 --> 01:51:44,072
I growing heart and soul... I
1682
01:51:44,114 --> 01:51:46,033
I really started thinking about
1683
01:51:46,074 --> 01:51:49,995
where I was gonna go with it,
and what I could do for her,
1684
01:51:50,037 --> 01:51:52,581
and how I could be
1685
01:51:52,623 --> 01:51:54,208
some kind
of valuable contribution
1686
01:51:54,249 --> 01:51:56,293
to a relationship.
1687
01:51:56,335 --> 01:52:02,174
I sweet name
you're born once again for me I
1688
01:52:06,011 --> 01:52:11,725
I sweet name you're born
once again for me... I
1689
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,271
it became a process
over the first year or so,
1690
01:52:16,313 --> 01:52:18,982
trying to balance my life
in terms of well,
1691
01:52:19,024 --> 01:52:21,193
how many of these
precious moments
1692
01:52:21,235 --> 01:52:24,112
am I willing to give away
at my age, 45?
1693
01:52:24,154 --> 01:52:27,074
Do I want to keep
on inundating myself
1694
01:52:27,115 --> 01:52:29,618
with one work project
after another, and sort of,
1695
01:52:29,660 --> 01:52:32,537
leave virtually no room
for a real, solid,
1696
01:52:32,579 --> 01:52:35,832
wonderful relationship
to start blooming?
1697
01:52:35,874 --> 01:52:39,795
I lord, I knee! And offer you I
1698
01:52:39,836 --> 01:52:42,589
I my word on a wing I
1699
01:52:44,841 --> 01:52:46,885
interviewer: Tour plans.
Any tour plans?
1700
01:52:46,927 --> 01:52:50,472
Unfortunately not.
No, not this time.
1701
01:52:50,514 --> 01:52:53,934
As you know, I've only been
married seven months,
1702
01:52:53,976 --> 01:52:57,562
and I really want to spend
more time within the marriage.
1703
01:52:57,604 --> 01:53:00,274
I think the worst thing to do
is run away for a year.
1704
01:53:01,566 --> 01:53:02,609
I really do.
1705
01:53:09,783 --> 01:53:10,784
I lord I
1706
01:53:12,035 --> 01:53:13,453
I lord I
1707
01:53:13,495 --> 01:53:16,164
I my prayer flies
like a word on a wing I
1708
01:53:18,083 --> 01:53:20,877
I my prayer flies
like a word on a wing I
1709
01:53:22,713 --> 01:53:25,882
I does my prayer fit in
with your scheme of things? I
1710
01:53:35,809 --> 01:53:38,895
David: There's a certain
buoyancy that you can develop
1711
01:53:38,937 --> 01:53:40,731
as you get older
1712
01:53:40,772 --> 01:53:43,984
if you are capable of absorbing
that it's a finite life,
1713
01:53:44,026 --> 01:53:45,569
and a finite existence.
1714
01:53:46,862 --> 01:53:48,363
And it's a kind of a knowledge
1715
01:53:48,405 --> 01:53:51,366
that you cannot
possibly entertain
1716
01:53:51,408 --> 01:53:53,118
when you're young.
1717
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,830
You cannot entertain
the real magnificence
1718
01:53:56,872 --> 01:53:59,333
and inevitability
of the short span of years
1719
01:53:59,374 --> 01:54:00,834
that we spend on the earth.
1720
01:54:00,876 --> 01:54:02,669
And I think
if you are really honest
1721
01:54:02,711 --> 01:54:04,087
with that reality,
1722
01:54:04,129 --> 01:54:06,590
you can have
a kind of a freedom,
1723
01:54:06,631 --> 01:54:08,925
artistically, spiritually,
and emotionally
1724
01:54:08,967 --> 01:54:10,719
that you don't have
when you're young.
1725
01:54:10,761 --> 01:54:15,265
I ooh, ready to shape
the scheme of things I
1726
01:54:15,307 --> 01:54:17,351
the idea of holding
on to anything
1727
01:54:17,392 --> 01:54:21,730
that's manifested
seems farcical.
1728
01:54:21,772 --> 01:54:23,523
There is nothing to hold onto.
1729
01:54:23,565 --> 01:54:25,359
Youth, physical things, or...
1730
01:54:29,029 --> 01:54:30,197
Definitely possessions.
1731
01:54:35,077 --> 01:54:36,953
The 20th century concern
1732
01:54:36,995 --> 01:54:40,290
is how we put our new god
back together again.
1733
01:54:40,332 --> 01:54:43,460
I think that we're coming
into an era of chaos,
1734
01:54:43,502 --> 01:54:45,629
and chaos has meaning
in our lives,
1735
01:54:45,670 --> 01:54:47,964
and I think
that we have to re-adapt
1736
01:54:48,006 --> 01:54:51,218
our interpretation of religion
and spirituality
1737
01:54:51,259 --> 01:54:52,469
to suit our new millennium.
1738
01:54:53,887 --> 01:54:55,806
Chaos and fragmentation
is something
1739
01:54:55,847 --> 01:54:58,600
that I've always been
very comfortable with.
1740
01:54:58,642 --> 01:55:01,269
That obviously
is my through-line.
1741
01:55:01,311 --> 01:55:02,979
Because I've always felt
1742
01:55:03,021 --> 01:55:05,649
that there's no real central
one truth in life.
1743
01:55:05,690 --> 01:55:07,859
That the way we live
is trying to make sense
1744
01:55:07,901 --> 01:55:12,072
of the endless vortex
of fragments.
1745
01:55:12,114 --> 01:55:14,616
That essentially,
we try and pull
1746
01:55:14,658 --> 01:55:17,035
these weedy little truths
1747
01:55:17,077 --> 01:55:19,663
and absolutes
1748
01:55:19,704 --> 01:55:23,708
out of this kind
of mindless chaos,
1749
01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:25,752
which is the real universe.
1750
01:55:25,794 --> 01:55:28,422
There's something about
the 90s that I really like.
1751
01:55:28,463 --> 01:55:30,382
There's something in the air
that I recognize.
1752
01:55:30,424 --> 01:55:32,092
I think it's all the frag...
1753
01:55:32,134 --> 01:55:34,594
All the fragments
flying around in the chaos.
1754
01:55:34,636 --> 01:55:37,264
It feels really... I kind of...
I know this stuff.
1755
01:56:04,416 --> 01:56:05,459
I spaceboy I
1756
01:56:07,002 --> 01:56:08,253
I you're sleepy now I
1757
01:56:09,463 --> 01:56:10,797
I your silhouette I
1758
01:56:12,466 --> 01:56:13,925
I is so stationary I
1759
01:56:15,802 --> 01:56:18,346
I you're released
but your custody calls I
1760
01:56:20,015 --> 01:56:21,433
I and I want to be free I
1761
01:56:25,395 --> 01:56:26,688
I don't you want to be free I
1762
01:56:28,523 --> 01:56:30,192
I do you like girls or boys I
1763
01:56:32,152 --> 01:56:34,654
I yeah, it's confusing
these days I
1764
01:56:36,031 --> 01:56:39,534
I but moondust will cover you I
1765
01:56:39,576 --> 01:56:41,369
I cover you I
1766
01:56:41,411 --> 01:56:43,538
I this chaos is killing me I
1767
01:56:48,502 --> 01:56:49,586
I so bye bye love I
1768
01:56:54,883 --> 01:56:56,092
I bye bye love I
1769
01:57:01,515 --> 01:57:02,557
I bye bye love I
1770
01:57:07,687 --> 01:57:08,813
I bye bye love I
1771
01:57:26,498 --> 01:57:28,458
I this chaos is killing me I
1772
01:57:33,547 --> 01:57:34,756
I sweet sweet dove I
1773
01:57:39,844 --> 01:57:41,221
I bye bye spaceboy I
1774
01:57:46,268 --> 01:57:47,477
I bye bye love I
1775
01:57:53,858 --> 01:57:56,236
I moondust will cover you I
1776
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,409
I moondust will cover you I
1777
01:58:06,204 --> 01:58:09,124
I moondust will cover you I
1778
01:58:12,794 --> 01:58:15,338
I moondust will cover you I
1779
01:58:19,301 --> 01:58:21,720
I moondust will cover you I
1780
01:58:27,475 --> 01:58:29,936
I all is well I
1781
01:58:29,978 --> 01:58:32,480
I 20th century dies I
1782
01:58:32,522 --> 01:58:34,941
I toll the bell I
1783
01:58:34,983 --> 01:58:37,360
I pay the private eye I
1784
01:58:37,402 --> 01:58:39,821
I all is well I
1785
01:58:39,863 --> 01:58:42,115
I 20th century dies I
1786
01:59:03,595 --> 01:59:06,806
David: I think, I think
it has something to do
1787
01:59:06,848 --> 01:59:09,851
with being able to reach
the end of any one day
1788
01:59:09,893 --> 01:59:12,729
and feel that you took from it
1789
01:59:12,771 --> 01:59:16,858
and gave back to it
as much as possible.
1790
01:59:18,318 --> 01:59:20,528
I hate to waste days.
1791
01:59:29,245 --> 01:59:32,207
I've just been feeling
a lot more comfortable
1792
01:59:32,248 --> 01:59:34,334
with life, and myself,
and my writing
1793
01:59:34,376 --> 01:59:36,002
and everything
as the years go by,
1794
01:59:36,044 --> 01:59:38,254
so it's... I just happen to be
in a great place.
1795
01:59:38,296 --> 01:59:39,964
I'm really lucky in that way.
1796
01:59:40,006 --> 01:59:41,424
'Cause I look
at some of my mates,
1797
01:59:41,466 --> 01:59:43,385
and some contemporaries,
1798
01:59:43,426 --> 01:59:46,554
and I know some of them feel,
I don't know, tired, or bitter,
1799
01:59:46,596 --> 01:59:48,473
or you know, a number of things
1800
01:59:48,515 --> 01:59:51,935
that traditionally
are supposed to go
1801
01:59:51,976 --> 01:59:53,269
with getting older, you know?
1802
01:59:53,311 --> 01:59:54,646
And I've just been
very fortunate
1803
01:59:54,688 --> 01:59:56,356
that it just
hasn't happened to me.
1804
01:59:56,398 --> 01:59:59,150
I just feel really...
I'm pretty keen on everything.
1805
02:00:00,694 --> 02:00:02,529
I've just landed on my feet.
1806
02:00:02,570 --> 02:00:06,032
I've done and do everything
I've always wanted to do,
1807
02:00:06,074 --> 02:00:07,701
you know?
1808
02:00:07,742 --> 02:00:08,742
That's been...
1809
02:00:09,994 --> 02:00:11,955
Interviewer:
That's a great thing.
1810
02:00:11,996 --> 02:00:13,349
David: Oh, it's extraordinary.
It really is extraordinary.
1811
02:00:13,373 --> 02:00:14,457
I've an incredible life.
1812
02:00:15,625 --> 02:00:17,460
It's been amazing.
1813
02:00:17,502 --> 02:00:19,170
I would love to do it again.
1814
02:00:22,132 --> 02:00:26,010
I was determined,
ever since I was 16,
1815
02:00:26,052 --> 02:00:27,971
that I would have
the greatest adventure
1816
02:00:28,012 --> 02:00:30,765
that any one person
could ever have.
1817
02:00:30,807 --> 02:00:33,351
And I set my sails
in the general direction
1818
02:00:33,393 --> 02:00:35,687
of uncharted waters.
1819
02:00:35,729 --> 02:00:38,273
I put myself
through everything...
1820
02:00:38,314 --> 02:00:41,234
Absolutely everything,
that came along.
1821
02:00:41,276 --> 02:00:45,613
It was very important for me
to expand my horizons
1822
02:00:45,655 --> 02:00:47,282
and seeing just how...
1823
02:00:47,323 --> 02:00:49,743
Just how near to the line
I could get.
1824
02:01:30,784 --> 02:01:33,036
I've been so eclectic
all my life.
1825
02:01:33,077 --> 02:01:36,039
I've been admiring
of so many different people
1826
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:38,082
and so many different things
that they've done,
1827
02:01:38,124 --> 02:01:41,878
I feel that I owe so many
for the way that I think
1828
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:42,920
and do things.
1829
02:01:44,297 --> 02:01:47,926
I guess anybody
who's had the integrity
1830
02:01:47,967 --> 02:01:50,345
to kind of always work
outside of the system,
1831
02:01:50,386 --> 02:01:52,514
has always appealed to me.
1832
02:01:52,555 --> 02:01:55,767
Whenever I'm teetering
on sort of what I know
1833
02:01:55,809 --> 02:01:58,561
is what I do best,
and what I really feel for,
1834
02:01:58,603 --> 02:02:00,772
and there's an area
that I think that,
1835
02:02:00,814 --> 02:02:03,066
well, an audience
I know would like this,
1836
02:02:04,067 --> 02:02:05,860
I just remember back
1837
02:02:05,902 --> 02:02:09,864
to how much I hate the center
of the social strata,
1838
02:02:09,906 --> 02:02:12,075
how I hate being drawn
into the middle,
1839
02:02:12,116 --> 02:02:14,410
to the middle of the road
of anything,
1840
02:02:14,452 --> 02:02:17,205
to that which is most popular.
1841
02:02:17,247 --> 02:02:19,249
And if... the other thing
I would say is that
1842
02:02:19,290 --> 02:02:22,043
if you feel safe in the area
that you're working in,
1843
02:02:22,085 --> 02:02:23,795
you're not working
in the right area.
1844
02:02:23,837 --> 02:02:26,047
Always go a little further
into the water
1845
02:02:26,089 --> 02:02:28,007
than you feel
you're capable of being in.
1846
02:02:28,049 --> 02:02:29,968
Go a little bit
out of your depth,
1847
02:02:30,009 --> 02:02:31,469
and when you don't feel
1848
02:02:31,511 --> 02:02:33,271
that your feet
are quite touching the bottom,
1849
02:02:33,304 --> 02:02:34,573
you're just about
in the right place
1850
02:02:34,597 --> 02:02:36,015
to do something exciting.
1851
02:02:44,941 --> 02:02:46,359
Let me tell you one thing.
1852
02:02:47,777 --> 02:02:51,114
All people,
no matter who they are,
1853
02:02:51,155 --> 02:02:53,700
they all wish
they'd appreciated life more.
1854
02:02:56,202 --> 02:02:59,163
It's what you do in life
that's important,
1855
02:02:59,205 --> 02:03:02,458
not how much time you have,
or what you wish you'd done.
1856
02:03:45,209 --> 02:03:50,006
I something happened
on the day he died I
1857
02:03:50,048 --> 02:03:54,260
I spirit Rose a meter
then stepped aside I
1858
02:03:54,302 --> 02:03:58,973
I somebody else took his place
and bravely cried I
1859
02:03:59,015 --> 02:04:01,851
I I'm a blackstar I
1860
02:04:01,893 --> 02:04:05,813
I 000000... I
1861
02:04:26,376 --> 02:04:28,461
There is no beginning, no end.
1862
02:04:29,879 --> 02:04:31,506
And all at once,
1863
02:04:31,547 --> 02:04:34,550
the outward appearance
of meaning is transcended,
1864
02:04:34,592 --> 02:04:38,096
and you find yourself
struggling to comprehend a deep
1865
02:04:38,137 --> 02:04:39,931
and formidable mystery.
1866
02:04:41,808 --> 02:04:42,850
I'm dying.
1867
02:04:44,102 --> 02:04:46,437
You are dying.
1868
02:04:46,479 --> 02:04:49,816
Second by second,
all is transient.
1869
02:04:51,067 --> 02:04:53,820
Does it matter? Do I bother?
1870
02:04:55,154 --> 02:04:56,990
Yes I do.
1871
02:04:57,031 --> 02:04:59,033
Life is fantastic.
1872
02:04:59,075 --> 02:05:01,160
It never ends. It only changes.
1873
02:05:02,328 --> 02:05:05,540
Flesh to stone to flesh.
1874
02:05:05,581 --> 02:05:07,291
And round and round.
1875
02:05:09,002 --> 02:05:10,878
Best keep walking.
1876
02:05:42,785 --> 02:05:46,789
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1877
02:05:46,831 --> 02:05:49,542
I and we're gonna have a party I
1878
02:05:49,584 --> 02:05:51,544
I uh-huh huh I
1879
02:05:51,586 --> 02:05:55,381
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1880
02:05:55,423 --> 02:05:58,176
I and we're gonna have a party I
1881
02:05:58,217 --> 02:05:59,761
I uh-huh huh I
1882
02:05:59,802 --> 02:06:03,556
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1883
02:06:03,598 --> 02:06:06,517
I and we're gonna have a party I
1884
02:06:06,559 --> 02:06:08,144
I uh-huh huh I
1885
02:06:08,186 --> 02:06:11,856
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1886
02:06:11,898 --> 02:06:14,692
I and we're gonna have a party I
1887
02:06:14,734 --> 02:06:16,360
I uh-huh huh I
1888
02:06:16,402 --> 02:06:20,406
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1889
02:06:20,448 --> 02:06:24,577
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1890
02:06:24,619 --> 02:06:28,748
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1891
02:06:28,790 --> 02:06:31,209
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1892
02:06:32,835 --> 02:06:36,923
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1893
02:06:36,964 --> 02:06:41,010
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1894
02:06:41,052 --> 02:06:44,931
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1895
02:06:44,972 --> 02:06:47,600
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1896
02:06:47,642 --> 02:06:49,310
I na-na-na I
1897
02:06:49,352 --> 02:06:52,939
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1898
02:06:57,151 --> 02:07:00,822
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1899
02:07:05,118 --> 02:07:08,913
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1900
02:07:08,955 --> 02:07:11,457
I and we're gonna have a party I
1901
02:07:13,084 --> 02:07:16,796
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1902
02:07:16,838 --> 02:07:19,507
I and we're gonna have a party I
1903
02:07:21,092 --> 02:07:24,387
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1904
02:07:24,428 --> 02:07:27,181
I and we're gonna have a party I
1905
02:07:28,891 --> 02:07:32,228
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1906
02:07:32,270 --> 02:07:34,730
I and we're gonna have a party I
1907
02:07:36,691 --> 02:07:40,153
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1908
02:07:40,194 --> 02:07:42,572
I and we're gonna have a party I
1909
02:07:44,448 --> 02:07:47,743
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1910
02:07:47,785 --> 02:07:50,204
I and we're gonna have a party I
1911
02:07:52,123 --> 02:07:55,835
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1912
02:07:55,877 --> 02:07:57,837
I and we're gonna have a party I
1913
02:07:59,839 --> 02:08:03,259
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1914
02:08:03,301 --> 02:08:05,511
I and we're gonna have a party I
1915
02:08:07,346 --> 02:08:10,516
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1916
02:08:10,558 --> 02:08:13,102
I and we're gonna
have a party... I
1917
02:08:29,368 --> 02:08:31,162
I hey, now now I
1918
02:08:34,373 --> 02:08:36,209
I goodbye love I
1919
02:08:39,462 --> 02:08:44,342
I didn't know what time it was,
the lights were low-ow-ow I
1920
02:08:44,383 --> 02:08:49,138
I I leaned back
on my radio-o-o I
1921
02:08:49,180 --> 02:08:52,850
I some cat was iayin' down
some rock 'n' roll I
1922
02:08:52,892 --> 02:08:54,060
I "lotta soul" he said I
1923
02:08:56,604 --> 02:09:01,067
I then the loud sound
did seem to fade-Ade-Ade I
1924
02:09:01,108 --> 02:09:05,863
I came back like a slow voice
on a wave of phase-ase-ase I
1925
02:09:05,905 --> 02:09:10,493
I that weren't no dj,
that was hazy cosmic jive I
1926
02:09:14,372 --> 02:09:19,627
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1927
02:09:19,669 --> 02:09:22,004
I he'd like
to come and meet us I
1928
02:09:22,046 --> 02:09:24,298
I but he thinks
he'd blow our minds I
1929
02:09:24,340 --> 02:09:29,345
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1930
02:09:29,387 --> 02:09:31,389
I he's told us not to blow it I
1931
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:33,766
I 'cause he knows
it's all worthwhile I
1932
02:09:33,808 --> 02:09:37,561
I he told me
let the children lose it I
1933
02:09:37,603 --> 02:09:39,855
I let the children use it I
1934
02:09:39,897 --> 02:09:42,108
I let all the children boogie I
1935
02:09:58,833 --> 02:10:03,504
I I had to phone someone
so I picked on you-ou-ou I
1936
02:10:03,546 --> 02:10:08,175
I hey, that's far out,
so you heard him too-oo-oo I
1937
02:10:08,217 --> 02:10:13,222
I switch on the TV, we may
pick him up on channel two I
1938
02:10:15,391 --> 02:10:20,187
I look out your window,
I can see his light-ight-ight I
1939
02:10:20,229 --> 02:10:24,692
I if we can sparkle
he may land tonight-ight-ight I
1940
02:10:24,734 --> 02:10:26,360
I don't tell your poppa I
1941
02:10:26,402 --> 02:10:29,405
I or he'll get us
locked up in fright I
1942
02:10:33,451 --> 02:10:38,581
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1943
02:10:38,622 --> 02:10:40,833
I he'd like
to come and meet us I
1944
02:10:40,875 --> 02:10:43,127
I but he thinks
he'd blow our minds I
1945
02:10:43,169 --> 02:10:48,174
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1946
02:10:48,215 --> 02:10:50,426
I he's told us not to blow it I
1947
02:10:50,468 --> 02:10:53,596
I 'cause he knows it's all
worthwhile, he told me I
1948
02:10:53,637 --> 02:10:58,559
I let the children lose it
let the children use it I
1949
02:10:58,601 --> 02:11:01,145
I let all the children boogie I
1950
02:11:01,187 --> 02:11:05,107
I starman waiting in the sky I
1951
02:11:05,149 --> 02:11:07,401
I he'd like to come
and meet us I
1952
02:11:07,443 --> 02:11:09,570
I but he thinks
he'd blow our minds I
1953
02:11:09,612 --> 02:11:14,533
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1954
02:11:14,575 --> 02:11:16,744
I he's told us not to blow it I
1955
02:11:16,786 --> 02:11:18,829
I 'cause he knows
it's all worthwhile I
1956
02:11:18,871 --> 02:11:22,583
I he told me
let the children lose it I
1957
02:11:22,625 --> 02:11:24,960
I let the children use it I
1958
02:11:25,002 --> 02:11:27,129
I let all the children boogie I
1959
02:11:36,347 --> 02:11:39,600
I la, la, la, ia-ia I
1960
02:11:39,642 --> 02:11:44,188
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1961
02:11:44,230 --> 02:11:48,859
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1962
02:11:48,901 --> 02:11:53,447
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1963
02:11:53,489 --> 02:11:58,077
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1964
02:11:58,119 --> 02:12:02,623
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1965
02:12:02,665 --> 02:12:07,253
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1966
02:12:07,294 --> 02:12:11,757
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1967
02:12:11,799 --> 02:12:16,303
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1968
02:12:16,345 --> 02:12:21,100
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1969
02:12:21,142 --> 02:12:25,604
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1970
02:12:25,646 --> 02:12:29,150
I la, la, la
la, la, la, ia-ia. I
1971
02:12:37,616 --> 02:12:38,701
I oh yeah I
1972
02:12:42,580 --> 02:12:43,580
I mmmm I
1973
02:12:49,712 --> 02:12:53,466
I still don't know
what I was waitin' for I
1974
02:12:53,507 --> 02:12:56,427
I and my time was running wild I
1975
02:12:56,469 --> 02:12:58,804
I a million
dead-end streets and I
1976
02:12:58,846 --> 02:13:01,932
I every time I thought
I'd got it made I
1977
02:13:01,974 --> 02:13:06,562
I it seemed the taste
was not so sweet I
1978
02:13:06,604 --> 02:13:11,025
I so I turned myself
to face me I
1979
02:13:11,066 --> 02:13:15,237
I but I've never caught
a glimpse I
1980
02:13:15,279 --> 02:13:19,158
I how the others
must see the faker I
1981
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:22,536
I I'm much too fast
to take that test I
1982
02:13:22,578 --> 02:13:24,413
I ch-ch-ch-ch-changes I
1983
02:13:24,455 --> 02:13:26,957
I turn and face the strange I
1984
02:13:26,999 --> 02:13:29,543
I ch-ch-changes I
1985
02:13:29,585 --> 02:13:32,171
I don't want to be
a richer man I
1986
02:13:32,213 --> 02:13:34,006
I ch-ch-ch-ch-changes I
1987
02:13:34,048 --> 02:13:36,342
I turn and face the strange I
1988
02:13:36,383 --> 02:13:39,053
I ch-ch-changes I
1989
02:13:39,094 --> 02:13:41,347
I there's gonna have to be
a different man I
1990
02:13:41,388 --> 02:13:44,350
j“ time may change me I
1991
02:13:44,391 --> 02:13:47,019
I but I can't trace time I
1992
02:13:47,061 --> 02:13:50,689
I I said that
time may change me I
1993
02:13:50,731 --> 02:13:53,901
I but I can't trace time. I
1994
02:14:12,294 --> 02:14:13,712
David: Well you know what?
1995
02:14:13,754 --> 02:14:15,839
This has been
an incredible pleasure,
1996
02:14:15,881 --> 02:14:19,134
and, uh,
you were really interesting.
1997
02:14:19,176 --> 02:14:20,862
I didn't know those things
you were telling me
1998
02:14:20,886 --> 02:14:23,138
about yourselves.
It's nice to have met you.
1999
02:14:23,180 --> 02:14:25,307
I'm glad we did finally
meet at last.
2000
02:14:25,349 --> 02:14:28,185
And all I can say is,
I goodbye I
2001
02:14:28,227 --> 02:14:31,313
I goodbye we'll meet again I
2002
02:14:31,355 --> 02:14:32,898
I some time I
2003
02:14:32,940 --> 02:14:36,569
I somewhere fa-ta-ta
ta-ta-ta-ta I
2004
02:14:36,610 --> 02:14:37,610
I ta-da. I
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