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BILLION DOLLARS.
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HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?
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>> ADAM NEUMANN.
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>> EVERYBODY TOLD ADAM NEUMANN
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THIS WAS NOT DOABLE.
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>> IF YOU TELL A 30 SOMETHING
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YEAR OLD MALE HE'S JESUS CHRIST,
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HE'S INCLINED TO BELIEVE YOU.
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>> EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WAS
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AN ABSOLUTE SHOCK.
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>> HE WAS USING IT AS HIS
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PERSONAL PIGGY BANK.
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THE BOARD WENT ALONG WITH IT.
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>> REAL ESTATE INVESTORS HAVE
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BEEN PREYING UPON
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AFRICAN-AMERICANS BECAUSE THEY
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OWNED PROPERTY.
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>> WHAT IF I DON'T WANT TO SELL?
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>> I HEARD IT THOUSANDS OF
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TIMES.
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YOU CAN'T MAKE ME SELL MY LAND.
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THEN I RESPOND BACK, YES, I CAN.
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>> IT'S NOT RIGHT.
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>> IT WAS IN THE FAMILY FOR 125
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YEARS.
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>> YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE IS
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GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT?
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>> YEAH.
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>>> THE HOPE IS MAYBE ITALY
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MIGHT BE GETTING BETTER.
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>> HOPE IS THE ONLY THING THAT
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REMAINS.
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>> YOU PUT ON A VERY TOUGH
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FRONT.
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I IMAGINE THERE MUST BE A HUGE
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EMOTIONAL TOLL.
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>> SI.
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[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
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>> HOW DO YOU THINK IT WILL
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COMPARE, THE SITUATION IN ITALY
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TO THE U.S.?
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>> IT WILL BE THE SAME.
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♪
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>>> FELT LIKE THERE WAS
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SOMETHING BEING DONE THAT WAS
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UNPRECEDENTED.
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>> WE ARE WE.
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IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN'T BE
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STOPPED.
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THE CASES WERE RATCHETING UP
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FURTHER AND FURTHER.
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>> THE JAPANESE INVESTMENT FIRM
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IS CONSIDERING PUTTING
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$4 BILLION IN YOUR COMPANY.
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>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG
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NUMBER.
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>> EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED FROM
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THERE WAS AN ABSOLUTE SHOCK.
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>> TODAY THE OBVIOUS STORY THE
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WE WORK.
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THERE'S A REPORT THAT WE WORK
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WILL FIRE 4,000 PEOPLE.
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IT MAY FIRE 6,000 PEOPLE.
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>> IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
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>> THERE'S REALLY NO BETTER WAY
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TO LIGHT MONEY ON FIRE.
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>> IT REALLY IS ONE OF THE
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SPECTACLE IMPLOSIONS WE'VE SEEN
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IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
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>> WE WORK WAS FOUNDED IN 2010
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BY ADAM NEUMANN AND HIS BUSINESS
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PARTNER MIGUEL McKELVEY.
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THE COMPANY LEASES REAL ESTATE.
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CONVERTS IT INTO SHARED OFFICE
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SPACE AND RENTS DESKS INSIDE.
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AS MUNDANE AS THAT SOUNDS, BY
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2019 WE WORK WAS A BIG DEAL
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BOASTING LOCATIONS IN 100 CITIES
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AND MORE THAN 12,000 EMPLOYEES.
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WITH AN IPO LOOMING,
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THE WE FAMILY WAS POISED TO MAKE
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A TON OF MONEY.
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>> WHEN WE WORK TRIED TO GO
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PUBLIC IN 2019 IT WAS VALUED AT
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$47 BILLION.
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TEN YEARS EARLIER THEY WERE
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WORKING OUT OF HALF A FLOOR OF
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THIS BUILDING.
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THIS WAS THE FIRST EVER WE WORK
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SPACE.
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>> HI, LISA, NICE TO MEET YOU.
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>> HI, NICE TO MEET YOU.
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>> THIS IS THE PLACE?
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>> THIS IS IT.
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THIS IS WHERE ALL THE MAGIC
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HAPPENED AT WE WORK IN THE
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BEGINS.
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>> LISA WAS ADAM AND MIGUEL'S
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SECOND HIRE.
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LISA MET ADAM BY CHANCE IN 2010.
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>> YOU WERE IMPRESSED BY HIM?
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>> OF COURSE.
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ADAM IS AN IMPRESSIVE PERSON.
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I HAVE EMAILS THAT SAY GOOD
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MORNING.
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LET'S CREATE THE LARGEST NETWORK
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COMMUNITY ON THE PLANET.
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LOOK AT WHAT HE DID.
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IT'S AMAZING.
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>> WHEN SOMEONE THINKS ABOUT
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THAT, THIS $47 BILLION
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EVALUATION COMPANY, HOW DOES
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THAT HAPPEN?
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>> IT'S INCREDIBLE.
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I THINK ADAM NEUMANN IS HOW IT
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HAPPENED.
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I HAVE PHOTOS OF OUR TEAM
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SLEEPING IN OUR LOCATION, JUST
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HUSTLING TO GET IT DONE.
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ADAM HAS A REMARKABLE ABILITY TO
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JUST KEEP DRIVING PEOPLE.
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ADAM SAT IN FRONT OF THE
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INVESTORS.
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HE SOLD THE VISION.
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HE'LL GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE
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GREATEST SALESMEN IN HISTORY.
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>> ADAM HAD A TALENT RAISING
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MONEY.
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FIRST FROM INDIVIDUAL INVESTORS
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AND LATER FROM MAJOR VENTURE
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CAPITAL FIRMS AND BANKS.
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PART CEO AND PART NEW AGE GURU
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WITH A PENCHANT FOR GOING
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BAREFOOT AND A LOVE OF TEQUILA
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ADAM SAID THE MISSION WAS TO
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ELEVATE THE WORLD'S
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CONSCIOUSNESS.
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>> IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE
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WORLD, START BY CHANGING
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YOURSELF.
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EVERY PERSON HAS A SUPER POWER.
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WE ALL DO.
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YOU HAVE ONE.
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YOU HAVE ONE.
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I KNOW THESE TWO HAVE ONE.
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THERE'S AN ENERGY YOU FEEL.
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IT'S AN ENERGY OF PEOPLE DOING
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THEIR OWN THING WHILE BEING PART
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OF SOMETHING GREATER THAN
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THEMSELVES.
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WE CALL IT THE WE GENERATION.
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>> WHETHER ADAM BELIEVED HIS OWN
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SPIRITUAL BABBLE OR A MARKETING
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EMPLOY, IT WAS WORKING.
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IN 2019 WE WORK WAS VALUED AT
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$10 BILLION.
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THAT COULD MEAN A BIG PAY OUT
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ONE DAY FOR EMPLOYEES WITH
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SHARES.
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TARA JOINED THE COMPANY IN MARCH
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2015.
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HEY, TARA.
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>> COME ON IN.
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WHEN YOU START AT A START-UP
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THERE'S AN ASSUMED GAMBLE.
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LIKE IN ROULETTE, IF IT HITS ON
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RED 20, WE'RE ALL GOING TO
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RETIRE.
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THERE'S THIS VEGAS MENTALITY
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WHEN IT COMES TO START-UP
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GROWTH.
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>> WAS THAT SOMETHING THEY
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TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WHEN YOU
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WERE SIGNING UP, THERE WOULD BE
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POTENTIAL FOR SALARY RAISES OR
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EQUITY?
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>> ABSOLUTELY, YEAH.
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IT WAS ABOUT A $10,000 PAY CUT.
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>> YOU TOOK A PAY CUT TO JOIN WE
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WORK?
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>> IT WAS COOL.
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>> YOU WENT TO THE SUMMER CAMP
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EVENT?
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>> I DID.
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>> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
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>> NUTTY EXPERIENCE.
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>> SUMMER CAMP WAS AN ANNUAL
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COMPANY RAVE FOR WE WORKERS
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FEATURING MEDITATION SESSIONS,
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AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF ALCOHOL,
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AND PERFORMANCES BY ACTS LIKE
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THE WEEKEND AND LOURD.
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>> IT FELT LIKE A FESTIVAL.
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>> ADAM WOULD GIVE LONG AND
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UNTETHERED SPEECHES.
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ATTENDANCE WAS STRICTLY
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REQUIRED.
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>> WHAT PUTS US TOGETHER IS
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BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS TO DO
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SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE WORLD A
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BETTER PLACE AND WE WANT TO MAKE
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MONEY DOING IT.
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>> EVERYONE WAS ALWAYS REALLY
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EXCITED WHEN ADAM WOULD SPEAK.
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HE HAD THIS MESSIAH AIR ABOUT
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HIM.
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WORDS I WAS HEARING WAS YOU HAVE
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THIS SEAT ON THE ROCKET SHIP TO
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THE MOON AND MARS.
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I DON'T THINK HE STARTED TALKING
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ABOUT PUTTING WE WORK ON MARS
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YET.
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I THINK IT WAS A JOKE AT FIRST.
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THEN WE HEARD IT WAS SOMETHING
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THAT WAS MAYBE BEING CONSIDERED.
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>> PUTTING WE WORK --
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>> ON MARS.
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IT SOUNDS CRAZY WHEN YOU SAY IT
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NOW.
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YEAH.
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>> FOR TARA THE FUN WORE OFF.
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HER JOB HELPING RUN WE WORK
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OFTEN MEANT STAYING LATE
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FOR MEMBER EVENTS.
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>> SOME WEEKS WERE 70 PLUS HOURS
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A WEEK.
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>> HOW ABOUT OVERTIME?
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>> I DID ASK HR, THEY SAID
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YOU'RE ON SALARY.
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YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO OVERTIME.
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>> TARA SUED WE WORK OVER WAGE
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ISSUES.
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THE COMPANY FORCED THE CASE INTO
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PRIVATE ARBITRATION.
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SHE SETTLED FOR AN UNDISCLOSED
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SUM.
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WHILE TARA WAS SUING WE WORK,
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ADAM WAS A NEWLY MINTED
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BILLIONAIRE.
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>> WE MORE THAN DOUBLED IN SIZE
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OVER THE PAST YEAR.
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>> KIDS SITTING NEXT TO THEM.
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>> WE PROMISE NOT TO DISAPPOINT.
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>> HE MADE AT LEAST SOME OF HIS
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MONEY BY LEASING PROPERTIES HE
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OWNED BACK TO WE WORK AND HE
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USED WE WORK'S MONEY TO INVEST
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IN PET PROJECTS.
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LIKE A WAVE POOL FOR SURFING.
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THEN A JAPANESE CONGLOMERATE
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NAMED SOFT BANK STARTING POURING
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BILLIONS INTO WE WORK.
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SOFT BANK IS RUN BY A FAMED
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INVESTOR.
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>> SOME OF MY INVESTORS, YOU GET
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TOO EXCITED AND TOO MUCH
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CONCENTRATION INTO ONE COMPANY.
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DON'T GO TOO FAR TOO MUCH.
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>> IT'S THE SECOND LARGEST
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VENTURE CAPITALIST OF ALL TIME.
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I'M AN INVESTOR IN UBER.
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I KNOW WHAT THE FIRST LARGEST
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ONE WAS.
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>> INFUSED WITH SOFT BANKS
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BILLIONS, WE WORK ACQUIRED MORE
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THAN ONE DOZEN COMPANIES.
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ADAM WENT ON A SHOPPING SPREE OF
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HIS OWN.
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BOUGHT A HOUSE IN THE BAY AREA
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LISTED FOR $25 MILLION AND A
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LUXURY PENTHOUSE IN MANHATTAN
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LISTED FOR $18 MILLION.
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IN 2019 THE WE COMPANY WAS
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VALUED AT $47 BILLION AND RACED
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TOWARDS AN IPO.
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EVEN THOUGH THE COMPANY SEEMED
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LIKE A SUCCESS, NO ONE ON THE
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OUTSIDE HAD EVER ACTUALLY SEEN
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ITS BOOKS.
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TO GO PUBLIC WE WORK HAD TO
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REVEAL THESE FINANCIALS IN AN
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S-1 FILING.
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>> WITH WE WORK, WHAT WAS THE
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MOMENT WHEN PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO
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LOOK UNDER THE HOOD?
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>> FOR ME I GOT THE S-1 EMAILED
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TO ME.
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IMAGINE IF YOU'RE AN ACADEMIC,
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IF YOU GET THE BEST NOVEL, IT
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FEELS LIFE CHANGING AND YOU
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CAN'T STOP READING.
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THE NUMBERS WERE STAGGERING.
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YOU'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE
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IT.
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A COMPANY THAT HAD COMMITTED TO
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$47 BILLION IN LONG TERM
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COMMITMENTS IN THE FORM OF
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LEASES, BUT WAS DOING $3 BILLION
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A YEAR IN REVENUE.
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>> NOT TO MENTION WE WORK WAS
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LOSING INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF
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MONEY.
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NEARLY $2 BILLION IN A SINGLE
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YEAR ALONE.
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>> WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WASN'T
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SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE WORRIED
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ABOUT WHEN THEY MADE THIS
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DISCLOSURE?
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>> MY GENERAL EXPERIENCE IS IF
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YOU TELL A 30 SOMETHING YEAR OLD
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MALE HE'S JESUS CHRIST, HE'S
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INCLINED TO BELIEVE YOU.
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WHEN EVERYONE IS TELLING YOU
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YOU'RE DOING AMAZING WORK AND
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YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST
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SUCCESSFUL INVESTORS OF ALL
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TIME, IT'S EASY TO BELIEVE
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WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS WORKING.
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>> WE WORK WASN'T WORKING AND
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MAYBE NEVER HAD.
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IT NEEDED HUGE CASH INFUSIONS
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JUST TO KEEP GOING AND WASN'T
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MAKING ENOUGH MONEY BACK.
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>> IT'S LOSING A LOT OF MONEY.
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>> WHAT IS ADAM DOING WITH THE
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MONEY HE'S TAKING OUT OF THE
329
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COMPANY?
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>> IT'S JUST BASIC MATH.
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>> I DON'T WANT WE WORK ANY
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PLACE.
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>> THEN WE TANKED.
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THE IPO WAS CANCELED.
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WITHOUT THE MONEY THEY WOULD
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HAVE RAISED FROM GOING PUBLIC,
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WE WORK HAD TO SLASH COSTS.
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MASS LAY OFFS FOLLOWED.
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>> HELLO.
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>> I'M TALKING TO FORMER
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EMPLOYEES ON THE CONDITION OF
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ANONYMITY BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY
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SIGNED NDAs.
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>> SOME COMPANIES DREAM OF
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GETTING TO AN IPO.
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WE WERE THERE.
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IT CRUMBLED IN THE COURSE OF
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THREE WEEKS.
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>> WHEN WERE YOU LAID OFF?
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JUST AFTER THE IPO?
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>> YEAH.
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THAT WAS A HUGE, HUGE -- COUPLE
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THOUSAND PEOPLE IN ONE DAY.
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>> COUPLE THOUSAND IN ONE DAY?
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>> YES.
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>> WE WORK SAID IN A STATEMENT
357
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THE LAY OFFS WERE NECESSARY TO
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CREATE A MORE EFFICIENT
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ORGANIZATION AND THAT LAID OFF
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EMPLOYEES RECEIVED SEVERANCE.
361
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>> THERE'S GRIEF ON ALL SIDES.
362
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PEOPLE WERE PACKING UP THEIR
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DESKS.
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THERE WAS A VIVID IMAGE WHEN
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ADAM'S STUFF WAS BEING MOVED
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OUT.
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>> AS THE VALUE OF WE WORK TOOK
368
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A NOSE DIVE, ADAM NEGOTIATED A
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$1.7 BILLION EXIT PACKAGE
370
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INCLUDING STOFT BANK BUYING BAC
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HIS SHARES.
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HE'S BEEN LAYING LOW AT ISRAEL.
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>> MIKE EISENBERG.
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MICHAEL RUNS ONE OF THE VERY
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BEST VENTURE FUNDS IN THE
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COUNTRY.
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YOU ARE ALSO THE REALLY EARLY
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INVESTOR IN A COMPANY CALLED WE
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WORK.
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>> TRUE.
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>> WHAT MESSAGE SHOULD WE TAKE
382
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AWAY?
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>> I DON'T KNOW.
384
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I THINK WE TEND TO BLOW THINGS
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OUT OF PROPORTION THAT SINGLE
386
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COMPANIES HAVE MASSIVE IMPACTS
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ON THE ECOSYSTEM.
388
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>> EISENBERG'S FIRM REPORTEDLY
389
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MADE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OFF WE
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WORK.
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>> EVERYBODY TOLD ADAM NEUMANN
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IT WAS NOT DOABLE.
393
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REAL ESTATE HADN'T BEEN WORKED
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THE SAME WAY.
395
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THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I SAW,
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I WALKED WITH ADAM AROUND ALL
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TWO OF WE WORKERS' FIRST TWO
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BUILDINGS.
399
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I NEVER MET A PIECE OF REAL
400
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ESTATE OR A BRICK OR WOOD THAT
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00:12:47,387 --> 00:12:48,303
CREATED THAT KIND OF VIBE.
402
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>> YOU THINK THEY'LL COME BACK?
403
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>> OH, YEAH.
404
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IT'S STILL WORKING.
405
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THE FUNDAMENTAL BUSINESS IS
406
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STILL WORKING.
407
00:12:55,637 --> 00:12:57,303
THEY MAYBE TOOK IN TOO MUCH
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CAPITAL INITIALLY.
409
00:12:58,512 --> 00:12:58,637
MAYBE.
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I DON'T KNOW.
411
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MAYBE SHOULD HAVE GONE SLOWER.
412
00:13:01,053 --> 00:13:01,261
MAYBE.
413
00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:01,637
I DON'T KNOW.
414
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>> DO YOU HAVE ANY REGRETS ABOUT
415
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YOUR INVESTMENTS IN WE WORK?
416
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>> SUPER PROUD OF THE
417
00:13:07,512 --> 00:13:07,804
ASSOCIATION.
418
00:13:07,887 --> 00:13:09,136
DOESN'T MEAN THERE AREN'T
419
00:13:09,220 --> 00:13:09,428
LESSONS.
420
00:13:09,512 --> 00:13:11,303
THAT'S TRUE IN EVERY COMPANY,
421
00:13:11,387 --> 00:13:13,136
THE ONES MORE SUCCESSFUL AND
422
00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:16,011
LESS SUCCESSFUL AND FAILURES
423
00:13:16,095 --> 00:13:18,261
WHICH IS 50% OF WHAT I DO.
424
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50% OF WHAT I DO FAILS.
425
00:13:22,178 --> 00:13:24,011
BUSINESS REQUIRES AN IRON
426
00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:24,303
STOMACH.
427
00:13:24,387 --> 00:13:28,553
YOU MUST RESPECT THE
428
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ENTREPRENEURS.
429
00:13:29,595 --> 00:13:31,470
THAT TRY, THRIVE OR EVEN FAIL.
430
00:13:31,553 --> 00:13:33,220
THEY WENT FOR THE JOURNEY.
431
00:13:33,303 --> 00:13:33,720
WE DIDN'T.
432
00:13:33,804 --> 00:13:37,637
>> FAILURE MIGHT BE THE NORM FOR
433
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ENTREPRENEURS.
434
00:13:38,136 --> 00:13:40,220
IT'S HARD FOR EMPLOYEES THAT
435
00:13:40,303 --> 00:13:43,053
BOUGHT SHARES THAT HAVE PLUMMET
436
00:13:43,136 --> 00:13:43,553
PLUMMETED
437
00:13:43,637 --> 00:13:44,220
PLUMMETED.
438
00:13:44,303 --> 00:13:46,512
LAWYERS ARE BRINGING A CLASS
439
00:13:46,595 --> 00:13:48,804
ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST ADAM AND
440
00:13:48,887 --> 00:13:50,970
WE WORK.
441
00:13:51,053 --> 00:13:51,553
>> ALL RISE.
442
00:13:51,637 --> 00:13:54,220
>> THE CASE WAS MOVED TO A
443
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DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AT THE LAST
444
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MINUTE.
445
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WE WORK DIDN'T SHOW.
446
00:14:04,637 --> 00:14:09,804
>> SO GENI DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'R
447
00:14:09,887 --> 00:14:10,053
HERE.
448
00:14:10,136 --> 00:14:11,970
>> WHAT'S YOUR PROGRESS NOW?
449
00:14:12,053 --> 00:14:15,553
>> THEY TURNED A SPRINT INTO A
450
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HURDLE, WE'RE THEY'RE PUTTING
451
00:14:17,387 --> 00:14:19,970
EVERY HURDLE IN FRONT OF US TO
452
00:14:20,053 --> 00:14:21,303
JUST GET INTO COURT.
453
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>> THE LAWYERS ARGUE ADAM
454
00:14:23,887 --> 00:14:26,136
BREACHED HIS DUTIES TO SHARE
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00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:26,470
HOLDERS.
456
00:14:26,553 --> 00:14:28,136
>> HE TRADEMARKED THE NAME OF
457
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THE COMPANY AND FORCED THE
458
00:14:29,553 --> 00:14:31,428
COMPANY TO PAY HIM $6 MILLION
459
00:14:31,512 --> 00:14:33,053
FOR THE NAME THE WE COMPANY.
460
00:14:33,136 --> 00:14:34,470
HE RECEIVED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
461
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OF DOLLARS IN LOANS.
462
00:14:36,387 --> 00:14:39,595
THE COMPANY GAVE HIM $60 MILLION
463
00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:41,470
TO BUY A GULF STREAM JET.
464
00:14:41,553 --> 00:14:44,136
>> DID HE ACTUALLY BREAK THE
465
00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:44,929
LAW?
466
00:14:45,011 --> 00:14:48,637
>> SOMEONE WHO RUNS THE COMPANY
467
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HAS A FIDUCIARY DUTY.
468
00:14:50,970 --> 00:14:53,804
HE WAS USING IT AS HIS PERSONAL
469
00:14:53,887 --> 00:14:55,387
PIGGY BANK AND THE BOARD WAS
470
00:14:55,470 --> 00:14:57,011
GOING ALONG WITH IT.
471
00:14:57,095 --> 00:14:58,387
THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW UNDER
472
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CIVIL LAW.
473
00:14:58,970 --> 00:15:01,053
ONCE YOU ISSUE SHARES TO OTHER
474
00:15:01,136 --> 00:15:02,720
PEOPLE THAT CHANGES THE GAME.
475
00:15:02,804 --> 00:15:07,053
YOU CAN'T ACT LIKE IT'S YOUR OWN
476
00:15:07,136 --> 00:15:09,553
COMPANY AND THE SHARE HOLDERS
477
00:15:09,637 --> 00:15:10,136
DON'T EXIST.
478
00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:13,637
>> ADAM GAVE BACK THE 6 MILLION
479
00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,804
HE WAS PAID FOR THE TRADEMARK.
480
00:15:14,887 --> 00:15:18,512
WE WORK SAYS THE LAWSUIT IS
481
00:15:18,595 --> 00:15:18,804
MERITLESS.
482
00:15:18,887 --> 00:15:22,136
THE NEW LEADERSHIP SAYS COMPANY
483
00:15:22,220 --> 00:15:23,178
IS SOUND.
484
00:15:23,261 --> 00:15:25,679
SOFT BANK PULLED OUT OF ITS DEAL
485
00:15:25,762 --> 00:15:28,553
TO BUY BACK WE WORKERS' STOCK
486
00:15:28,637 --> 00:15:31,095
INCLUDING ADAM'S SHARES.
487
00:15:31,178 --> 00:15:36,595
SOFT BANK CITED INVESTIGATIONS
488
00:15:36,679 --> 00:15:40,553
BY THE F.C.C. AND THE JUSTICE
489
00:15:40,637 --> 00:15:41,637
DEPARTMENT.
490
00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,136
ADAM IS STILL HIDING OUT IN
491
00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:46,303
ISRAEL AND SOURCES CLOSE TO HIM
492
00:15:46,387 --> 00:15:47,595
SAY HE'S PLANNING A COMEBACK.
493
00:15:47,679 --> 00:15:49,804
>> YOU CAN'T GIVE UP.
494
00:15:49,887 --> 00:15:52,136
TOOK ME FIVE BUSINESSES TO GET
495
00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:52,929
TO WE WORK.
496
00:15:53,011 --> 00:15:55,136
DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK THE FIRST
497
00:15:55,220 --> 00:15:55,470
TIME.
498
00:15:55,553 --> 00:15:57,428
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FAIL.
499
00:15:57,512 --> 00:16:00,595
LEARN WHY YOU FAILED AND START
500
00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:12,512
AGAIN.
501
00:16:12,595 --> 00:16:16,345
>>> THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT
502
00:16:16,428 --> 00:16:16,970
$600,000, $2 MILLION HOMES.
503
00:16:17,053 --> 00:16:18,679
>> YOUR BIGGEST DECISION IS TO
504
00:16:18,762 --> 00:16:20,512
GO TO THE BEACH OR POOL AND WHAT
505
00:16:20,595 --> 00:16:22,637
AM I GOING TO GRILL FOR DINNER.
506
00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,345
>> SOUTH CAROLINA, HILTON HEAD,
507
00:16:24,428 --> 00:16:25,679
WHAT'S GOING ON THERE?
508
00:16:25,762 --> 00:16:27,970
>> PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES,
509
00:16:28,053 --> 00:16:28,720
EVERYBODY LOVES HILTON HEAD.
510
00:16:28,804 --> 00:16:31,679
>> ONE OF THE BEST WAYS FOR A
511
00:16:31,762 --> 00:16:36,887
FAMILY TO CREATE WEALTH IS OWN
512
00:16:36,970 --> 00:16:38,053
LAND.
513
00:16:38,136 --> 00:16:41,637
I'M STANDING ON THE BEACH IN
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HILTON HEAD, SOUTH CAROLINA.
515
00:16:42,428 --> 00:16:43,345
AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, BLACK
516
00:16:43,428 --> 00:16:44,887
PEOPLE OWNED MOST OF IT.
517
00:16:44,970 --> 00:16:48,303
OVER THE DECADES THE LAND WAS
518
00:16:48,387 --> 00:16:48,553
LOST.
519
00:16:48,637 --> 00:16:51,053
TO THIS DAY WE GOT BLACK FOLKS
520
00:16:51,136 --> 00:16:52,428
STILL FIGHTING TO KEEP THEIR
521
00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:54,679
PIECE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.
522
00:16:54,762 --> 00:16:56,595
>> AFRICAN-AMERICANS OWNED
523
00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:59,595
AROUND 16 MILLION ACRES OF LAND,
524
00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:01,679
MUCH ACQUIRED THROUGH PURCHASES
525
00:17:01,762 --> 00:17:02,595
AND HOMESTEADING.
526
00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:04,845
AFTER YEARS OF VIOLENCE AND
527
00:17:04,929 --> 00:17:09,553
LEGAL TRICKERY, MOST WAS TAKEN.
528
00:17:09,637 --> 00:17:12,679
TEXAS A&M LAW PROFESSOR HAS BEEN
529
00:17:12,762 --> 00:17:16,595
TRACKING THAT LOSS FOR TWO
530
00:17:16,679 --> 00:17:17,470
DECADES.
531
00:17:17,553 --> 00:17:18,095
>> AFRICAN-AMERICANS, DESPITE
532
00:17:18,178 --> 00:17:19,762
THIS INCREDIBLE ACQUISITION OF
533
00:17:19,845 --> 00:17:21,595
LAND AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, MOST
534
00:17:21,679 --> 00:17:23,720
OF THAT PROPERTY WAS NOT
535
00:17:23,804 --> 00:17:27,970
CONSIDERED PRIME REAL ESTATE.
536
00:17:28,053 --> 00:17:29,804
>> UNTIL 1950, HILTON HEAD WAS
537
00:17:29,887 --> 00:17:32,553
REMOTE AND THE ISLAND WAS OWNED
538
00:17:32,679 --> 00:17:36,261
BY MAJORITY AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
539
00:17:36,345 --> 00:17:37,345
WHAT DOES SOUTH CAROLINA DO?
540
00:17:37,428 --> 00:17:42,595
THEY BUILD A BRIDGE, REAL ESTATE
541
00:17:42,679 --> 00:17:43,679
DEVELOPERS REALIZE THERE'S A
542
00:17:43,762 --> 00:17:44,929
GREAT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND
543
00:17:45,011 --> 00:17:47,512
THEY HAVE THE VISIONS OF WHAT
544
00:17:47,595 --> 00:17:48,679
HAS BECOME HILTON HEAD.
545
00:17:48,762 --> 00:17:49,679
THEY STARTED TO BUYOUT
546
00:17:49,762 --> 00:17:53,470
INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES.
547
00:17:53,553 --> 00:17:55,095
THERE'S HARDLY ANY BLACK LAND
548
00:17:55,178 --> 00:17:55,679
OWNERS LEFT.
549
00:17:55,762 --> 00:17:59,303
AS OUR SOCIETY HAS ADVANCED,
550
00:17:59,387 --> 00:18:00,095
AREAS THAT WERE ONCE CONSIDERED
551
00:18:00,178 --> 00:18:02,637
THE BACK WATERS, NO LONGER ARE
552
00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:08,845
THE BACK WATERS.
553
00:18:08,929 --> 00:18:15,887
>> WE'RE ON A MISSION RIGHT NOW.
554
00:18:15,970 --> 00:18:16,929
TO GET THIS TANGERINE.
555
00:18:17,011 --> 00:18:18,011
>> THIS IS WIDE SPREAD
556
00:18:18,095 --> 00:18:18,929
THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
557
00:18:19,011 --> 00:18:22,887
EVEN IN MY HOMETOWN OF
558
00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:24,512
TALLAHASSEE, SANDRA THOMPSON
559
00:18:24,595 --> 00:18:27,762
LEARNED HOW HARD IT CAN BE TO
560
00:18:27,845 --> 00:18:29,345
RETAIN POSSESSION OF LAND THAT
561
00:18:29,428 --> 00:18:30,595
DEVELOPERS WANT TO GET THEIR
562
00:18:30,679 --> 00:18:31,261
HANDS ON.
563
00:18:31,345 --> 00:18:33,553
I REMEMBER GROWING UP IN
564
00:18:33,637 --> 00:18:33,929
TALLAHASSEE.
565
00:18:34,011 --> 00:18:34,679
THIS WAS THE STICKS.
566
00:18:34,762 --> 00:18:36,929
I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH PEOPLE WHO
567
00:18:37,011 --> 00:18:37,261
LIVED HERE.
568
00:18:37,345 --> 00:18:40,929
WE WOULD BE LIKE YOU LIVE IN THE
569
00:18:41,011 --> 00:18:43,929
BOONEYS, THE BOON DOCKS.
570
00:18:44,011 --> 00:18:46,428
>> IT'S NOW ZONED URBAN FRINGE.
571
00:18:46,512 --> 00:18:48,762
>> PEOPLE TRIED TO BUY IT?
572
00:18:48,887 --> 00:18:49,470
>> ALL THE TIME.
573
00:18:49,553 --> 00:18:51,804
>> SANDRA'S FAMILY WERE SHARE
574
00:18:51,887 --> 00:18:53,387
CROPPERS ON THIS LAND.
575
00:18:53,470 --> 00:18:56,679
HER GRANDPARENTS BOUGHT IT IN
576
00:18:56,762 --> 00:18:57,845
1946 USING MONEY THEIR SON MADE
577
00:18:57,929 --> 00:18:59,095
IN THE MILITARY.
578
00:18:59,178 --> 00:19:01,011
THEIR WILL DIDN'T IDENTIFY A
579
00:19:01,095 --> 00:19:05,428
SINGLE PERSON WHO WOULD INHERIT
580
00:19:05,512 --> 00:19:07,845
AND MANAGE THE PROPERTY.
581
00:19:07,929 --> 00:19:09,845
>> WHEN MY GRANDMOTHER PASSED
582
00:19:09,929 --> 00:19:13,345
AWAY, IT WAS LEFT TO HER
583
00:19:13,428 --> 00:19:14,845
DESCENDENTS.
584
00:19:14,929 --> 00:19:17,512
SO IT BECAME HEIRS PROPERTY.
585
00:19:17,595 --> 00:19:20,679
>> WHAT IS HEIR PROPERTY?
586
00:19:20,762 --> 00:19:22,970
>> COMMUNAL PROPERTY WHERE YOUR
587
00:19:23,053 --> 00:19:23,845
ANCESTORS WOULD HAVE PURCHASED
588
00:19:23,929 --> 00:19:24,679
THE LAND.
589
00:19:24,762 --> 00:19:27,178
ONCE THEY PASSED AWAY, IT
590
00:19:27,261 --> 00:19:29,845
TRANSFERS TO THE NEXT GENERATION
591
00:19:29,929 --> 00:19:31,845
AND THERE DESCENDENTS.
592
00:19:31,929 --> 00:19:35,345
A PROPERTY THAT CAN BE OWNED BY
593
00:19:35,428 --> 00:19:37,512
200 PEOPLE.
594
00:19:37,595 --> 00:19:39,095
ANY ONE OF THOSE HEIRS COULD
595
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:40,387
SELL THEIR PERCENTAGE.
596
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:42,345
THAT NEW OWNER CAN GO TO THE
597
00:19:42,428 --> 00:19:44,929
COURT AND SAY WE CAN'T AGREE ON
598
00:19:45,011 --> 00:19:45,720
HOW TO MANAGE THIS.
599
00:19:45,804 --> 00:19:47,428
>> AND FORCE THE REST OF THE
600
00:19:47,512 --> 00:19:49,011
FOLKS TO SELL IT EVEN IF THEY
601
00:19:49,095 --> 00:19:49,720
DON'T WANT TO?
602
00:19:49,804 --> 00:19:50,553
>> YES.
603
00:19:50,637 --> 00:19:53,011
IT WAS ESSENTIAL FOR US TO MOVE
604
00:19:53,095 --> 00:19:56,011
IT OUT OF HEIRS PROPERTY STATUS.
605
00:19:56,095 --> 00:20:01,261
THAT PROCESS COSTS FROM PROBATE
606
00:20:01,345 --> 00:20:03,053
TO TITLE CLEARING $10,000.
607
00:20:03,136 --> 00:20:05,762
>> YOU OWN THE LAND, THEN YOU
608
00:20:05,845 --> 00:20:07,929
HAD TO PAY $10,000 TO OWN THE
609
00:20:08,011 --> 00:20:08,220
LAND AGAIN?
610
00:20:08,303 --> 00:20:10,053
>> EXACTLY.
611
00:20:10,136 --> 00:20:12,428
BECAUSE OF THE COST A LOT OF
612
00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:13,679
FAMILIES DON'T CLEAR TITLE TO
613
00:20:13,762 --> 00:20:15,178
THAT PROPERTY.
614
00:20:15,261 --> 00:20:18,720
SO THEN IT KEEPS THEM IN A
615
00:20:18,804 --> 00:20:21,720
VULNERABLE ECONOMIC RISK
616
00:20:21,804 --> 00:20:24,804
POSITION.
617
00:20:24,929 --> 00:20:28,178
>> THE LAND HAS BEEN IN OUR
618
00:20:28,261 --> 00:20:30,178
FAMILY FOR AT LEAST 125 YEARS.
619
00:20:30,261 --> 00:20:31,470
STARTED WITH MY GREAT
620
00:20:31,553 --> 00:20:31,845
GRANDFATHER.
621
00:20:31,929 --> 00:20:35,136
THE LAND IS FOR ME A LOT OF
622
00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:39,637
MEMORIES, PART OF MY ROOTS.
623
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,178
I WAS PROUD OF THE NAME LEWIS.
624
00:20:42,261 --> 00:20:48,178
WE WORKED TO HAVE SOMETHING.
625
00:20:48,261 --> 00:20:51,011
I GUESS WE LOST IT.
626
00:20:51,095 --> 00:20:55,011
>> THE LEWIS FAMILY OWNED 480
627
00:20:55,095 --> 00:20:57,011
ACRES IN NORTHERN LOUISIANA.
628
00:20:57,095 --> 00:20:58,970
BECAUSE THE LAND WAS HEIRS
629
00:20:59,053 --> 00:21:00,011
PROPERTY SEVERAL DISTANT FAMILY
630
00:21:00,095 --> 00:21:02,178
MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO SELL THEIR
631
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:05,345
SHARE TO A LOCAL TIMBER
632
00:21:05,428 --> 00:21:05,679
DEVELOPER.
633
00:21:05,762 --> 00:21:07,887
HE FORCED THE SALE OF THE LAND
634
00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:09,053
THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.
635
00:21:09,136 --> 00:21:11,887
>> MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER
636
00:21:12,011 --> 00:21:14,261
RAISED 13 KIDS WHERE THAT HOUSE
637
00:21:14,345 --> 00:21:15,095
SITS.
638
00:21:15,178 --> 00:21:17,679
I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY HEIRS
639
00:21:17,762 --> 00:21:20,261
TIED INTO THE LEWIS PROPERTIES,
640
00:21:20,345 --> 00:21:23,261
IT WILL MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN.
641
00:21:23,345 --> 00:21:25,261
TAXES WERE ALWAYS PAID ON TIME.
642
00:21:25,345 --> 00:21:28,428
WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION NO
643
00:21:28,512 --> 00:21:30,762
ONE PERSON FROM THE FAMILY COULD
644
00:21:30,845 --> 00:21:33,261
UP AND SELL ANY PART OF THE
645
00:21:33,345 --> 00:21:35,095
PROPERTY WITHOUT ANYONE BEING
646
00:21:35,178 --> 00:21:35,845
NOTIFIED.
647
00:21:35,929 --> 00:21:38,095
>> DO YOU ALL KNOW THE RELATIVES
648
00:21:38,178 --> 00:21:40,053
THAT SOLD THEIR PART?
649
00:21:40,136 --> 00:21:42,553
>> I'VE ONLY SEEN ONE ONCE.
650
00:21:42,637 --> 00:21:44,720
>> YOU'RE IN NEW YORK, WHEREVER,
651
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:47,637
GOING ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
652
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,136
YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW NOTHING
653
00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:51,303
ABOUT THIS COUNTRY SPOT RIGHT
654
00:21:51,387 --> 00:21:51,553
HERE.
655
00:21:51,637 --> 00:21:53,470
YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT
656
00:21:53,553 --> 00:21:56,136
THIS HERE.
657
00:21:56,220 --> 00:21:59,720
MY THING IS THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN
658
00:21:59,845 --> 00:22:00,804
HERE FOR YEARS.
659
00:22:00,845 --> 00:22:05,178
BECAUSE OF A TECHNICALITY YOU UP
660
00:22:05,261 --> 00:22:06,428
UPROOTED A FAMILY.
661
00:22:06,512 --> 00:22:09,303
>> SHORTLY AFTER THE PURCHASE
662
00:22:09,387 --> 00:22:10,845
WAS COMPLETED LAST YEAR, THE
663
00:22:10,929 --> 00:22:13,345
SHERIFFS EVICTED MICHAEL.
664
00:22:13,428 --> 00:22:13,970
>> THIS IS WHERE YOUR --
665
00:22:14,053 --> 00:22:16,345
>> MY TRAILER WAS SITTING HERE.
666
00:22:16,428 --> 00:22:17,804
THOSE ARE THE STEPS TO THE FRONT
667
00:22:17,887 --> 00:22:18,303
ENTRANCE.
668
00:22:18,387 --> 00:22:19,679
I CALLED THE SHERIFF.
669
00:22:19,762 --> 00:22:20,845
WELL, IT'S HIS PROPERTY.
670
00:22:20,929 --> 00:22:22,136
HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS.
671
00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:25,887
>> THE SHERIFF IS SAYING TUGGLE
672
00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:27,470
CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS.
673
00:22:27,553 --> 00:22:28,887
>> IT'S HIS PROPERTY.
674
00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:33,345
I SUGGEST YOU MOVE THE TRAILER.
675
00:22:33,428 --> 00:22:34,136
HE SAID THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL
676
00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:34,387
YOU.
677
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:37,970
>> MICHAEL ENDED UP WITH LITTLE
678
00:22:38,053 --> 00:22:38,553
OVER $2,800.
679
00:22:38,637 --> 00:22:41,387
HE USED TO RELOCATE HIS TRAILER
680
00:22:41,470 --> 00:22:44,387
HOME TO A HALF ACRE LOT NEARBY.
681
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:46,387
>> STILL GOT TO PUT IN A WATER
682
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:46,637
LINE.
683
00:22:46,762 --> 00:22:48,178
THE WATER LINE IS ACROSS THE
684
00:22:48,261 --> 00:22:58,095
ROAD.
685
00:22:58,178 --> 00:23:00,011
I COULD BE ANGRY, ANGRY TO THE
686
00:23:00,095 --> 00:23:01,512
PART I WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO
687
00:23:01,595 --> 00:23:01,845
SOMEBODY.
688
00:23:01,929 --> 00:23:10,887
I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 125
689
00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:11,428
YEARS OF FAMILY HERITAGE.
690
00:23:11,512 --> 00:23:16,303
>> MICHAEL INVITED US IN.
691
00:23:16,387 --> 00:23:19,470
>> THIS IS A PETITION THAT CAME
692
00:23:19,553 --> 00:23:23,220
TO US VIA THE SHERIFF'S
693
00:23:23,303 --> 00:23:23,720
DEPARTMENT.
694
00:23:23,804 --> 00:23:25,428
THIS IS THE VERY FIRST DOCUMENT
695
00:23:25,512 --> 00:23:26,720
THAT WE RECEIVED.
696
00:23:26,804 --> 00:23:28,762
YOU'RE HEREBY CITED TO COMPLY
697
00:23:28,845 --> 00:23:31,220
WITH THE DEMAND CONTAINED IN THE
698
00:23:31,303 --> 00:23:33,261
PETITION WHICH OFFICE IS IN THE
699
00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:34,303
TUNE OF HOMER --
700
00:23:34,387 --> 00:23:38,679
>> THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS.
701
00:23:38,762 --> 00:23:41,428
>> THROWED AT SOMEBODY THAT
702
00:23:41,512 --> 00:23:43,762
CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE LINGO SO TO
703
00:23:43,845 --> 00:23:44,011
SPEAK.
704
00:23:44,095 --> 00:23:45,929
WE GET TO THE OFFICE TO FIND OUT
705
00:23:46,011 --> 00:23:46,762
EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THEY'RE
706
00:23:46,845 --> 00:23:48,011
TRYING TO SAY.
707
00:23:48,095 --> 00:23:50,053
>> TO MAKE SENSE OF THESE
708
00:23:50,136 --> 00:23:51,720
DOCUMENTS AND GET A BETTER
709
00:23:51,804 --> 00:23:52,387
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED
710
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:59,720
TO THE LEWISES, WE VISITED THE
711
00:23:59,804 --> 00:24:00,887
CLERK OF COURT.
712
00:24:00,970 --> 00:24:02,553
>> ANYTHING INVOLVING A LAWSUIT
713
00:24:02,637 --> 00:24:04,804
IS FILED HERE IN THIS OFFICE.
714
00:24:04,887 --> 00:24:07,887
I'M THE CUSTODIAN OF ALL THESE
715
00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:08,470
RECORDS YOU SEE.
716
00:24:08,553 --> 00:24:11,345
SO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS OUT IN
717
00:24:11,428 --> 00:24:12,011
FRONT?
718
00:24:12,095 --> 00:24:16,053
>> YEAH.
719
00:24:16,136 --> 00:24:16,470
>> ALL RIGHT.
720
00:24:16,553 --> 00:24:19,970
>> SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE
721
00:24:20,053 --> 00:24:20,220
LEWISES?
722
00:24:20,303 --> 00:24:22,637
>> THEY'RE A FAMILY SPREAD OUT
723
00:24:22,762 --> 00:24:23,679
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
724
00:24:23,762 --> 00:24:27,428
JAMES TUGGLE BUYS INTO THAT
725
00:24:27,512 --> 00:24:28,095
PROPERTY.
726
00:24:28,178 --> 00:24:30,470
HE DIDN'T JUST BUY A SLIVER.
727
00:24:30,553 --> 00:24:31,637
HE BOUGHT SOMEWHERE IN THE
728
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,595
NEIGHBORHOOD OF 20%.
729
00:24:32,679 --> 00:24:33,470
>> UNDERSTOOD.
730
00:24:33,553 --> 00:24:35,220
>> ONCE HE OWNS THAT, HE CAN
731
00:24:35,303 --> 00:24:36,720
FORCE THE ENTIRE THING TO BE
732
00:24:36,804 --> 00:24:36,970
SOLD.
733
00:24:37,053 --> 00:24:37,929
>> THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
734
00:24:38,011 --> 00:24:41,762
>> WHICH HE DID.
735
00:24:41,845 --> 00:24:45,637
>> OVER THE COURSE OF A DECADE
736
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,220
TUGGLE A TIMBER DEVELOPER BOUGHT
737
00:24:47,303 --> 00:24:48,929
THE SHARES OF MORE THAN 20
738
00:24:49,011 --> 00:24:51,428
PEOPLE CONNECTED TO THE LEWIS
739
00:24:51,512 --> 00:24:52,637
PROPERTY, MOST FROM OUT OF
740
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,220
STATE.
741
00:24:53,303 --> 00:24:56,303
HE DECLINED OUR REQUEST TO AN
742
00:24:56,387 --> 00:24:57,470
INTERVIEW AND DIDN'T RESPOND TO
743
00:24:57,553 --> 00:24:58,720
OUR WRITTEN QUESTIONS.
744
00:24:58,804 --> 00:25:00,637
>> THE SALE HAPPENS AT THE
745
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,387
SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE IT'S
746
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:07,970
PUBLICLY OPEN FORBID AND SOLD
747
00:25:08,053 --> 00:25:08,387
FOR $555,000.
748
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:10,929
>> A BARGAIN OF A PRICE.
749
00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:11,428
>> I DON'T KNOW.
750
00:25:11,512 --> 00:25:14,720
>> FOR 500 ACRES.
751
00:25:14,804 --> 00:25:17,637
>> I'VE SEEN ACRES SOLD FOR
752
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,679
$1,700.
753
00:25:18,762 --> 00:25:19,220
THAT'S DISTURBING.
754
00:25:19,303 --> 00:25:24,011
>> THE SALE HE'S TALKING ABOUT
755
00:25:24,095 --> 00:25:28,011
WAS IN 2001 TO JAMES STEELE WHO
756
00:25:28,095 --> 00:25:30,053
ADVERTISES HIS ABILITY TO SELL
757
00:25:30,136 --> 00:25:31,220
HEIRS PROPERTY.
758
00:25:31,303 --> 00:25:38,804
WE CAUGHT UP WITH HIM.
759
00:25:38,887 --> 00:25:45,887
>> THE MINIMUM ACCEPTABLE BID IS
760
00:25:45,970 --> 00:25:46,220
$2,994.90.
761
00:25:46,303 --> 00:25:47,720
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR BIDS.
762
00:25:47,804 --> 00:25:58,428
DO I HEAR A BID?
763
00:25:58,512 --> 00:25:58,929
2,295.25 IS SOLD.
764
00:25:59,011 --> 00:26:02,303
PUT YOUR NAME RIGHT THERE.
765
00:26:02,387 --> 00:26:03,303
>> MORNING, JIM.
766
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:04,220
>> MORNING.
767
00:26:04,303 --> 00:26:05,595
>> HOW YOU DOING?
768
00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:06,303
>> FINE.
769
00:26:06,387 --> 00:26:07,637
>> WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE?
770
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,804
>> WELL, I BOUGHT AN INTEREST IN
771
00:26:09,887 --> 00:26:13,387
A PIECE OF LAND, AN UNDIVIDED
772
00:26:13,470 --> 00:26:13,720
INTEREST.
773
00:26:13,804 --> 00:26:17,470
WHEN IT'S INHERITED AND THERE'S
774
00:26:17,553 --> 00:26:21,637
A LOT OF HEIRS, I OWNED 22 ACRES
775
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,220
OUT OF 52.
776
00:26:22,303 --> 00:26:24,804
>> NOW YOU PURCHASED THE REST.
777
00:26:24,887 --> 00:26:27,136
HOW MUCH HAVE YOU PAID IN TOTAL
778
00:26:27,220 --> 00:26:28,053
FOR 52 ACRES?
779
00:26:28,136 --> 00:26:30,762
>> I WOULD HAVE TO ADD THAT UP.
780
00:26:30,845 --> 00:26:32,804
DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DO A LOT
781
00:26:32,887 --> 00:26:33,970
OF THESE.
782
00:26:34,053 --> 00:26:35,970
I CAN'T KEEP THEM ALL IN MY
783
00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:36,178
HEAD.
784
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:38,512
>> HOW DOES HEIRS PROPERTY FIT
785
00:26:38,595 --> 00:26:40,345
INTO YOUR OVERALL BUSINESS
786
00:26:40,428 --> 00:26:40,679
MODEL?
787
00:26:40,762 --> 00:26:43,845
>> TO BE TRUTHFUL IT'S PROBABLY
788
00:26:43,929 --> 00:26:45,178
90%, EVEN GOING BACK TO THE
789
00:26:45,261 --> 00:26:47,136
CIVIL WAR.
790
00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:48,679
WE'RE DOING SOME THAT PEOPLE IN
791
00:26:48,762 --> 00:26:49,804
CIVIL WAR HAD IT.
792
00:26:49,887 --> 00:26:51,136
THEY WERE SLAVES AND THEY HAD
793
00:26:51,220 --> 00:26:51,387
IT.
794
00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:53,387
I'VE HAD OTHER LAND OWNERS COME
795
00:26:53,470 --> 00:26:55,387
TO ME AND SAY WOULD YOU FILE A
796
00:26:55,470 --> 00:26:57,512
LAWSUIT FOR ME AND DO THIS.
797
00:26:57,595 --> 00:26:59,887
I DON'T WANT TO BE THE BAD GUY.
798
00:26:59,970 --> 00:27:01,553
YOU BE THE BAD GUY.
799
00:27:01,637 --> 00:27:05,345
YOU'RE ALREADY THE BAD GUY.
800
00:27:05,428 --> 00:27:07,470
>> SO YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU'RE
801
00:27:07,553 --> 00:27:09,178
DOING IS PERCEIVED --
802
00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:11,053
>> YOU LOOK AT ME AS EVIL.
803
00:27:11,136 --> 00:27:12,720
>> NO, NO, NO.
804
00:27:12,804 --> 00:27:13,720
>> I'M SHOCKED.
805
00:27:13,804 --> 00:27:14,345
>> NO.
806
00:27:14,428 --> 00:27:17,845
WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO THE FAMILY
807
00:27:17,929 --> 00:27:18,929
MEMBER THAT WANTS TO SELL,
808
00:27:19,011 --> 00:27:20,887
YOU'RE BRINGING THE BANK.
809
00:27:20,970 --> 00:27:22,261
YOU'RE BRINGING THE MONEY.
810
00:27:22,345 --> 00:27:23,720
TO THE FAMILY MEMBER THAT
811
00:27:23,804 --> 00:27:28,428
DOESN'T WANT TO SELL, YOU'RE
812
00:27:28,512 --> 00:27:28,679
EVIL.
813
00:27:28,762 --> 00:27:29,220
>> PROBABLY IN THEIR EYES.
814
00:27:29,303 --> 00:27:29,512
>> YEAH.
815
00:27:29,595 --> 00:27:30,178
>> IT'S USUALLY THE ONES THAT
816
00:27:30,261 --> 00:27:32,178
LIVE ON IT AND ARE GETTING FREE
817
00:27:32,261 --> 00:27:32,428
RENT.
818
00:27:32,512 --> 00:27:34,303
>> IT'S THEIR LAND.
819
00:27:34,345 --> 00:27:35,261
IT'S NOT FREE RENT.
820
00:27:35,345 --> 00:27:37,970
>> THEY OWN A MINISCULE PORTION
821
00:27:38,053 --> 00:27:38,303
OF IT.
822
00:27:38,387 --> 00:27:39,929
I HEARD IT THOUSANDS OF TIMES.
823
00:27:40,011 --> 00:27:42,136
YOU CAN'T MAKE ME SELL MY LAND.
824
00:27:42,220 --> 00:27:44,970
THEN I RESPOND BACK, I SAY, YES,
825
00:27:45,053 --> 00:27:45,261
I CAN.
826
00:27:45,345 --> 00:27:46,136
>> BUT IT'S MY LAND?
827
00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:48,637
>> WELL, IT USED TO BE.
828
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,970
>> JIM, THAT AIN'T RIGHT.
829
00:27:54,053 --> 00:27:55,970
JIM STEELE WASN'T INVOLVED IN
830
00:27:56,053 --> 00:27:57,970
THE SALE OF THE LEWIS PROPERTY.
831
00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:02,261
JAMES TUGGLE LET GREG STAY ON
832
00:28:02,345 --> 00:28:04,011
THE LAND, BUT HIS MOTHER DECIDED
833
00:28:04,095 --> 00:28:04,512
TO LEAVE.
834
00:28:04,595 --> 00:28:06,762
>> THIS IS MY MOTHER'S HOUSE.
835
00:28:06,845 --> 00:28:09,136
WHEN SHE RETIRED, THIS BECAME
836
00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:09,845
HER HOME.
837
00:28:09,929 --> 00:28:12,011
>> WHY DID SHE LEAVE HERE?
838
00:28:12,095 --> 00:28:15,595
>> SHE LEFT BECAUSE SHE WAS
839
00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:17,261
NERVOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HER
840
00:28:17,345 --> 00:28:19,011
MAMA'S HOUSE WOULD BE PUSHED OUT
841
00:28:19,095 --> 00:28:20,470
AND WHETHER HER HOUSE WOULD BE
842
00:28:20,553 --> 00:28:20,720
NEXT.
843
00:28:20,762 --> 00:28:22,970
SHE COULDN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT.
844
00:28:23,053 --> 00:28:24,720
SHE JUST DIDN'T FEEL SAFE.
845
00:28:24,804 --> 00:28:26,887
>> GREG'S MOTHER MISS TRUDY
846
00:28:26,970 --> 00:28:29,345
STANLEY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
847
00:28:29,428 --> 00:28:31,887
LEWIS FAMILY TRIED TO FINALIZE
848
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:33,136
THEIR OWNERSHIP WHEN THEY FOUND
849
00:28:33,220 --> 00:28:36,387
OUT IT WAS BEING TARGETED FOR
850
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:36,637
SALE.
851
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,762
MR. TUGGLE OUT BID THEM.
852
00:28:40,845 --> 00:28:42,512
SHORTLY AFTER THAT MISS STANLEY
853
00:28:42,595 --> 00:28:44,887
MOVED IN WITH HER DAUGHTER IN
854
00:28:44,970 --> 00:28:45,261
WASHINGTON, D.C.
855
00:28:45,345 --> 00:28:48,095
>> IT'S PAINFUL TO REALIZE THAT
856
00:28:48,178 --> 00:28:54,762
I DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE.
857
00:28:54,845 --> 00:28:59,220
IT'S NOT RIGHT.
858
00:28:59,303 --> 00:29:00,345
I KEPT MY PART.
859
00:29:00,428 --> 00:29:01,929
SOMEONE SOLD THEIR PART AND IT
860
00:29:02,011 --> 00:29:03,220
AFFECTED THE WHOLE FAMILY.
861
00:29:03,303 --> 00:29:05,011
WE DIDN'T KNOW THE LAW.
862
00:29:05,095 --> 00:29:06,428
WE COULDN'T PROTECT IT.
863
00:29:06,512 --> 00:29:07,762
SO WE LOST IT.
864
00:29:07,845 --> 00:29:11,887
>> HOW IMPORTANT WAS THE LAND TO
865
00:29:11,970 --> 00:29:12,720
YOU?
866
00:29:12,804 --> 00:29:16,303
>> IT MEANS A LOT.
867
00:29:16,387 --> 00:29:19,387
TO LOSE IT, YOU HAD NO DEFENSE.
868
00:29:19,470 --> 00:29:22,595
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
869
00:29:22,679 --> 00:29:24,095
WE LOST IT.
870
00:29:24,178 --> 00:29:26,428
IT WAS DEVASTATING.
871
00:29:26,512 --> 00:29:27,929
STILL IS.
872
00:29:28,011 --> 00:29:31,178
IT WILL FOREVER BE THAT WAY.
873
00:29:31,261 --> 00:29:31,845
BUT THAT'S THE LAW.
874
00:29:31,929 --> 00:29:33,512
>> WHEN AFRICAN-AMERICANS MOVE
875
00:29:33,595 --> 00:29:36,011
FROM THE STATUS OF BEING
876
00:29:36,095 --> 00:29:38,595
THEMSELVES TO AFTER THE CIVIL
877
00:29:38,679 --> 00:29:40,762
WAR, BEING ABLE TO BECOME LAND
878
00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:43,095
OWNERS, HARDLY ANY OF THESE
879
00:29:43,178 --> 00:29:45,011
FAMILIES WERE ABLE TO STRUCTURE
880
00:29:45,095 --> 00:29:46,261
THE OWNERSHIP IN A WAY THAT
881
00:29:46,345 --> 00:29:48,011
WOULD BE STABLE BECAUSE MOST
882
00:29:48,095 --> 00:29:50,345
AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILIES HAD NO
883
00:29:50,428 --> 00:29:53,011
ACCESS TO ATTORNEYS.
884
00:29:53,095 --> 00:29:56,011
THERE ARE STUDIES IN VARIOUS
885
00:29:56,136 --> 00:29:57,637
SOUTHERN STATES THAT SHOW IT'S
886
00:29:57,762 --> 00:30:01,887
10 TO 40% OF ALL PROPERTY
887
00:30:01,970 --> 00:30:05,261
AFRICAN-AMERICAN OWNS IS HEIR
888
00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:05,762
PROPERTY.
889
00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:09,178
>> THERE'S AROUND $28 BILLION OF
890
00:30:09,261 --> 00:30:10,095
HEIR PROPERTY IN THE STAFF.
891
00:30:10,178 --> 00:30:12,095
THAT'S CONSERVATIVE.
892
00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:14,720
THOMAS MITCHELL DRAFTED
893
00:30:14,804 --> 00:30:16,762
LEGISLATION TO HELP FAMILIES
894
00:30:16,845 --> 00:30:17,553
HANG ON TO THEIR.
895
00:30:17,637 --> 00:30:19,428
IT'S PASSED IN 16 STATES.
896
00:30:19,512 --> 00:30:21,053
>> IF SOMEBODY FILES ONE OF
897
00:30:21,136 --> 00:30:24,220
THESE LAWSUITS AND REQUESTS A
898
00:30:24,303 --> 00:30:26,095
COURT TO ORDER THE FORCED SALE
899
00:30:26,178 --> 00:30:28,845
OF THE PROPERTY, THE OTHER
900
00:30:28,929 --> 00:30:33,929
OWNERS ARE THEN ENTITLED TO
901
00:30:34,011 --> 00:30:36,095
BUYOUT THE PERSON WHO ASKED FOR
902
00:30:36,178 --> 00:30:38,178
THE FORESALE.
903
00:30:38,261 --> 00:30:39,929
THERE HAD BEEN THIS NARRATIVE
904
00:30:40,011 --> 00:30:44,178
THAT BLACK LAND OWNERS WERE
905
00:30:44,303 --> 00:30:46,595
INEVITABLY GOING TO BE EXTINCT
906
00:30:46,679 --> 00:30:47,261
BY NOW.
907
00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:49,178
WHY ARE WE GOING TO SIT BACK AND
908
00:30:49,261 --> 00:30:50,679
WATCH MORE AND MORE PROPERTY AND
909
00:30:50,762 --> 00:30:52,637
LAND AND HOMES GO AND THEN ON
910
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,428
THE BACK END CALL FOR
911
00:30:54,512 --> 00:30:58,345
REPARATIONS AS OPPOSED TO TRY TO
912
00:30:58,428 --> 00:30:59,595
STABILIZE THE OWNERSHIPO IT'S
913
00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:02,428
NOT DISSIPATED 20 OR 30 YEARS
914
00:31:02,512 --> 00:31:03,428
FROM NOW?
915
00:31:03,512 --> 00:31:04,011
>> RIGHT.
916
00:31:04,095 --> 00:31:09,011
>> MY FAMILY HOMESTEADED THESE
917
00:31:09,095 --> 00:31:09,428
PROPERTIES.
918
00:31:09,512 --> 00:31:12,345
THEY RAISED FAMILIES ON THESE
919
00:31:12,428 --> 00:31:14,011
PROPERTIES.
920
00:31:14,095 --> 00:31:15,261
MR. TUGGLE, HE AIN'T GOING TO
921
00:31:15,345 --> 00:31:17,303
BUILD NOTHING ON IT.
922
00:31:17,387 --> 00:31:20,345
IT'S ALL FOR THE TIMBER.
923
00:31:20,428 --> 00:31:25,303
ALL FOR THE TIMBER.
924
00:31:25,387 --> 00:31:27,637
IT WAS IN THE FAMILY FOR 125
925
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:27,887
YEARS.
926
00:31:27,970 --> 00:31:28,804
>> ALL OF THIS?
927
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,637
>> ALL OF THIS.
928
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,261
MY AUNTS AND UNCLES' HOUSES SAT
929
00:31:38,345 --> 00:31:42,428
ON THE TOP RIGHT HERE.
930
00:31:42,512 --> 00:31:44,428
THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU STICK
931
00:31:44,512 --> 00:31:44,720
TOGETHER.
932
00:31:44,804 --> 00:31:46,095
YOU KEEP YOUR INTERESTS
933
00:31:46,178 --> 00:31:46,428
TOGETHER.
934
00:31:46,512 --> 00:31:50,929
YOU HOLD TIGHT TO YOUR INTERESTS
935
00:31:51,011 --> 00:31:51,470
AND, IF YOU PLAN ON DOING
936
00:31:51,553 --> 00:31:52,261
ANYTHING WITH YOUR INTERESTS,
937
00:31:52,345 --> 00:31:55,762
MAKE SURE YOU DO IT TO KEEP IT
938
00:31:55,845 --> 00:31:57,428
IN THE FAMILY.
939
00:31:57,512 --> 00:32:00,595
THAT'S WHERE WE FELL SHORT.
940
00:32:00,679 --> 00:32:02,345
WHATEVER THEY GOT FROM HIM NOW
941
00:32:02,428 --> 00:32:05,053
IS PROBABLY GONE.
942
00:32:05,136 --> 00:32:15,553
JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
943
00:32:18,387 --> 00:32:18,470
♪
944
00:32:18,553 --> 00:32:18,720
♪
945
00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:37,428
♪
946
00:32:40,679 --> 00:32:42,512
>>> THE LAST FEW WEEKS IN
947
00:32:42,595 --> 00:32:44,679
NORTHERN ITALY THE STREETS HAVE
948
00:32:44,762 --> 00:32:46,512
BEEN QUIET APART FROM THE
949
00:32:46,595 --> 00:32:48,845
CONSTANT SOUND OF SIRENS WHICH
950
00:32:48,929 --> 00:32:50,970
IS THESE GUYS RESPONDING TO
951
00:32:51,053 --> 00:32:52,804
CASES OF COVID-19 THAT NEED
952
00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:58,553
URGENT CARE.
953
00:32:58,637 --> 00:33:12,595
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
954
00:33:18,845 --> 00:33:19,595
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
955
00:33:21,845 --> 00:33:25,845
>> ITALY WAS THE FIRST WESTERN
956
00:33:25,929 --> 00:33:26,553
COUNTRY TO DETECT A MASS
957
00:33:26,637 --> 00:33:27,553
CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK.
958
00:33:27,637 --> 00:33:31,553
IT NOW HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN
959
00:33:31,637 --> 00:33:32,261
EUROPE.
960
00:33:32,345 --> 00:33:34,553
ITALIAN AUTHORITIES HAVE
961
00:33:34,637 --> 00:33:37,553
CONFIRMED AT LEAST 185,000
962
00:33:37,637 --> 00:33:40,428
CASES, MORE THAN 26,000 HAVE
963
00:33:40,512 --> 00:33:47,470
DIED, BUT IT'S NOT OVER YET.
964
00:33:47,553 --> 00:33:48,929
TESE GUYS ARE JUST PREPPING,
965
00:33:49,011 --> 00:33:54,553
MAKING SURE THEY'RE FULLY SEALED
966
00:33:54,637 --> 00:33:56,595
OFF TO GO INTO THE NURSING HOME.
967
00:33:56,679 --> 00:33:59,595
THEY JUST RECEIVED A CALL TO GO
968
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:08,762
TO HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.
969
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:30,679
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
970
00:34:30,762 --> 00:34:55,929
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
971
00:34:56,011 --> 00:35:13,303
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
972
00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:39,679
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
973
00:35:39,762 --> 00:36:07,053
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
974
00:36:07,136 --> 00:36:10,804
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
975
00:36:14,303 --> 00:36:16,720
>> WHAT KIND OF STATE WAS SHE
976
00:36:16,804 --> 00:36:17,345
IN?
977
00:36:17,428 --> 00:36:21,261
SHE OBVIOUSLY WASN'T DOING WELL?
978
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:43,387
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
979
00:36:43,470 --> 00:36:45,095
>> HOW COMMON IS THAT THAT
980
00:36:45,178 --> 00:36:46,762
YOU'RE BRINGING PATIENTS FROM
981
00:36:46,845 --> 00:36:55,970
NURSING HOMES THAT NEED URGENT
982
00:36:56,053 --> 00:36:59,970
COVID CARE?
983
00:37:00,053 --> 00:37:00,970
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
984
00:37:01,053 --> 00:37:03,178
>> WHAT'S THE EMOTIONAL TOLL ON
985
00:37:03,261 --> 00:37:03,970
YOU GUYS?
986
00:37:04,053 --> 00:37:06,637
YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR WEEKS
987
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:06,804
NOW.
988
00:37:06,929 --> 00:37:07,220
IT MUST BE HARD.
989
00:37:07,303 --> 00:37:08,929
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
990
00:37:48,512 --> 00:37:52,053
GIOVANNI HOSPITAL.
991
00:37:52,136 --> 00:37:54,220
THIS IS A SOPHISTICATED ADVANCED
992
00:37:54,345 --> 00:37:55,887
HOSPITAL, YET THEY'RE SAYING
993
00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:58,053
THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY
994
00:37:58,136 --> 00:38:00,053
OVERWHELMED THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
995
00:38:00,136 --> 00:38:03,970
THIS IS THE ICU.
996
00:38:04,053 --> 00:38:08,095
>> THESE ARE ONE OF THE ICUs.
997
00:38:08,178 --> 00:38:10,053
>> IN THIS HOSPITAL, HOW MANY
998
00:38:10,136 --> 00:38:18,553
PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE IN ICU RIGHT
999
00:38:18,637 --> 00:38:18,762
NOW?
1000
00:38:18,845 --> 00:38:19,261
[ INAUDIBLE ]
1001
00:38:19,345 --> 00:38:21,804
>> THE INFECTION RATE HAS
1002
00:38:21,887 --> 00:38:23,261
DECREASED, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
1003
00:38:23,345 --> 00:38:25,011
YOU'RE VERY BUSY.
1004
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:28,178
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1005
00:38:28,261 --> 00:38:30,762
>> ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE
1006
00:38:30,845 --> 00:38:33,011
ESSENTIALLY BEING MADE TO STAY
1007
00:38:33,095 --> 00:38:35,679
ALIVE BY VARIOUS DIFFERENT
1008
00:38:35,762 --> 00:38:36,178
RESPIRATORY EQUIPMENT.
1009
00:38:36,261 --> 00:38:38,178
THIS GUY IS HAVING HIS BLOOD
1010
00:38:38,261 --> 00:38:40,720
TAKEN OUT.
1011
00:38:40,762 --> 00:38:41,720
HE'S BEING OXYGENATED HERE
1012
00:38:41,762 --> 00:38:45,136
BEFORE IT COMES BACK INTO HIS
1013
00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:45,887
VEINS.
1014
00:38:45,970 --> 00:38:48,679
HE'S ONLY IN HIS 30s.
1015
00:38:48,762 --> 00:38:54,470
HE'S HAD A TRACK YOT MY TO HELP
1016
00:38:54,553 --> 00:38:55,887
HIS RESPIRATORY RECOVERY.
1017
00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:59,512
DOCTORS AND NURSES CAN'T LEAVE
1018
00:38:59,595 --> 00:39:01,845
THIS ROOM BECAUSE THE PPE HAS
1019
00:39:01,929 --> 00:39:03,470
BEEN CONTAMINATED.
1020
00:39:03,553 --> 00:39:06,512
THEY CAN'T WASTE THAT PROTECTIVE
1021
00:39:06,595 --> 00:39:10,011
GEAR WHICH IS SO PRECIOUS.
1022
00:39:10,095 --> 00:39:12,428
EVEN WITH THESE PRECAUTIONS IN
1023
00:39:12,512 --> 00:39:15,095
PLACE 130 DOCTORS AND 30 NURSES
1024
00:39:15,178 --> 00:39:19,428
HAVE DIED FROM CORONAVIRUS.
1025
00:39:19,512 --> 00:39:20,095
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE
1026
00:39:20,178 --> 00:39:21,095
THIS BEFORE?
1027
00:39:21,178 --> 00:39:21,428
>> NO.
1028
00:39:21,512 --> 00:39:23,178
I HOPE I NEVER SEE AGAIN.
1029
00:39:23,261 --> 00:39:26,220
>> THE INFECTION RATE IN ITALY
1030
00:39:26,303 --> 00:39:28,762
AND DEATH RATE GOES DOWN, IT
1031
00:39:28,845 --> 00:39:29,178
LOOKS POSITIVE.
1032
00:39:29,303 --> 00:39:29,762
>> YES.
1033
00:39:29,887 --> 00:39:31,720
YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION.
1034
00:39:31,804 --> 00:39:34,720
EVERY NATION HAS ITS POLITICS ON
1035
00:39:34,804 --> 00:39:36,595
DOING THE TESTING.
1036
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,220
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DO IS
1037
00:39:39,303 --> 00:39:40,470
TESTING SOMEONE WHO IS COMING IN
1038
00:39:40,553 --> 00:39:41,970
THE HOSPITAL.
1039
00:39:42,053 --> 00:39:43,261
IF YOU'RE AT HOME, NOBODY IS
1040
00:39:43,345 --> 00:39:46,303
COMING TO YOU AND TESTING YOU.
1041
00:39:46,387 --> 00:39:48,303
IT MIGHT BE THAT NUMERATOR IS
1042
00:39:48,387 --> 00:39:48,804
VERY BIG.
1043
00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:50,345
>> ARE YOU STARTING TO SEE THE
1044
00:39:50,428 --> 00:39:53,011
LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL?
1045
00:39:53,095 --> 00:39:53,637
>> MAYBE.
1046
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:54,303
>> MAYBE?
1047
00:39:54,387 --> 00:39:58,428
>> I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO
1048
00:39:58,512 --> 00:40:03,345
JUDGE FROM TWO OR THREE DAYS
1049
00:40:03,428 --> 00:40:03,553
OUT.
1050
00:40:03,637 --> 00:40:06,428
>> THE RISK OF INFECTION INSIDE
1051
00:40:06,512 --> 00:40:07,970
THESE HOSPITALS IS REALLY HIGH.
1052
00:40:08,053 --> 00:40:09,679
OBVIOUSLY THE HEALTH OF THESE
1053
00:40:09,762 --> 00:40:11,261
WORKERS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
1054
00:40:11,345 --> 00:40:14,261
SO THEY CAN KEEP GOING.
1055
00:40:14,345 --> 00:40:15,178
WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS WRITE THESE
1056
00:40:15,261 --> 00:40:17,303
RED LINES.
1057
00:40:17,345 --> 00:40:20,887
IF YOU'VE BEEN INSIDE TO TREAT
1058
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:22,053
PATIENTS WITH COVID-19, YOU STAY
1059
00:40:22,136 --> 00:40:23,345
ON ONE SIDE.
1060
00:40:23,428 --> 00:40:25,303
EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS CLEAN, THEY
1061
00:40:25,387 --> 00:40:27,136
STAY ON THE OTHER SIDE TO
1062
00:40:27,220 --> 00:40:37,762
PREVENT ANY CONTAMINATION.
1063
00:40:37,845 --> 00:40:39,845
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1064
00:40:39,929 --> 00:40:40,929
>> THOSE GOING THROUGH ICU,
1065
00:40:41,011 --> 00:40:44,762
THERE ARE SOME FINALLY
1066
00:40:44,845 --> 00:40:45,095
RECOVERING.
1067
00:40:45,178 --> 00:40:50,095
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED?
1068
00:40:50,178 --> 00:41:08,303
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1069
00:41:08,387 --> 00:41:10,470
>> WAS THERE A MOMENT WHERE YOU
1070
00:41:10,553 --> 00:41:16,011
FELT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO MAKE
1071
00:41:16,095 --> 00:41:19,929
IT?
1072
00:41:20,011 --> 00:41:43,428
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1073
00:41:43,512 --> 00:41:47,095
>> STEFANO WAS LUCKY.
1074
00:41:47,178 --> 00:41:48,970
THE SURVIVAL RATE HERE FOR
1075
00:41:49,053 --> 00:41:50,929
PATIENTS WITH COVID-19 IS JUST
1076
00:41:51,011 --> 00:41:51,178
30%.
1077
00:41:51,261 --> 00:41:55,929
IS THERE SOMEONE IN HERE?
1078
00:41:56,011 --> 00:42:00,762
MEANING 7 OUT OF 10 PEOPLE HERE
1079
00:42:00,845 --> 00:42:06,428
FOR TREATMENT DON'T MAKE IT OUT
1080
00:42:06,512 --> 00:42:11,095
ALIVE.
1081
00:42:11,178 --> 00:42:21,512
OH, MY GOSH.
1082
00:42:21,595 --> 00:42:23,261
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALL
1083
00:42:23,345 --> 00:42:25,845
PASSED AWAY IN THE LAST FEW
1084
00:42:25,929 --> 00:42:26,095
WEEKS.
1085
00:42:26,178 --> 00:42:28,720
THESE ARE THE LAST BELONGINGS
1086
00:42:28,804 --> 00:42:30,595
THAT THEY HAD IN THE HOSPITAL
1087
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:34,553
BEFORE THEY DIED.
1088
00:42:34,637 --> 00:42:36,637
WHAT PROPORTION OF THESE BAGS
1089
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:41,512
BELONG TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED
1090
00:42:41,595 --> 00:42:47,929
FROM CORONAVIRUS?
1091
00:42:48,011 --> 00:43:16,804
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1092
00:43:16,887 --> 00:43:23,553
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1093
00:43:23,637 --> 00:43:25,053
>> HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GETTING
1094
00:43:25,136 --> 00:43:25,970
THESE PHONE CALLS?
1095
00:43:26,053 --> 00:43:51,553
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1096
00:43:51,637 --> 00:44:03,762
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1097
00:44:03,845 --> 00:44:05,804
>> WHILE THE OFFICIAL DAILY
1098
00:44:05,887 --> 00:44:07,595
DEATH TOLLS ARE DECREASING,
1099
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:13,929
CHURCHES ARE STILL OVERRUN.
1100
00:44:14,011 --> 00:44:26,011
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1101
00:44:26,095 --> 00:44:28,637
>> UNLIKE OTHER COUNTRIES ITALY
1102
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,679
ONLY TESTS PATIENTS WHO MAKE IT
1103
00:44:31,762 --> 00:44:32,345
TO HOSPITAL.
1104
00:44:32,428 --> 00:44:35,679
THOUSANDS OF OTHERS REMAIN
1105
00:44:35,762 --> 00:44:36,178
UNACCOUNTED FOR.
1106
00:44:36,261 --> 00:44:38,595
MEANING THE DEATH TOLL COULD BE
1107
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:55,804
MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE KNOW.
1108
00:44:55,887 --> 00:44:59,512
THE DEMAND FOR CREMATION IS
1109
00:44:59,595 --> 00:44:59,887
OVERWHELMING.
1110
00:44:59,970 --> 00:45:00,679
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH CHURCHES TO
1111
00:45:00,762 --> 00:45:15,762
HOLD ALL THE BODIES.
1112
00:45:15,845 --> 00:45:18,762
THE OVERFLOW ARE BEING STORED IN
1113
00:45:18,845 --> 00:45:20,261
WHATEVER LARGE EMPTY SPACES THE
1114
00:45:20,345 --> 00:45:46,387
AUTHORITIES CAN FIND.
1115
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:48,929
THIS IS WHAT DEATH LOOKS LIKE IN
1116
00:45:49,011 --> 00:45:49,804
ITALY.
1117
00:45:49,887 --> 00:45:52,512
BODY AFTER BODY BEING TAKEN AWAY
1118
00:45:52,595 --> 00:45:55,178
IN MILITARY TRUCKS TO
1119
00:45:55,261 --> 00:45:57,428
CREMATORIUMS FAR AWAY WHERE
1120
00:45:57,512 --> 00:45:58,845
THERE'S SPACE FOR THEM TO
1121
00:45:58,929 --> 00:46:03,929
ACTUALLY BE BURNED.
1122
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:06,053
IT'S ALL STARTING TO FEEL SO
1123
00:46:06,136 --> 00:46:06,512
CLINICAL.
1124
00:46:06,595 --> 00:46:09,303
THESE GUYS ARE DOING THE BEST TO
1125
00:46:09,387 --> 00:46:12,011
GIVE THEM A DIGNIFIED DEPARTURE.
1126
00:46:12,095 --> 00:46:14,553
IT JUST SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE GIVEN
1127
00:46:14,637 --> 00:46:18,970
THE SHEAR NUMBER OF PEOPLE STILL
1128
00:46:19,053 --> 00:46:38,053
DYING HERE.
1129
00:46:38,136 --> 00:46:41,762
JUST ACROSS THE STREET THIS MAN
1130
00:46:41,845 --> 00:46:43,929
TRIES NOT TO WATCH WHAT'S
1131
00:46:44,011 --> 00:46:51,595
UNFOLDING.
1132
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:52,720
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1133
00:46:52,804 --> 00:46:55,428
YOU HAVE THE MOST IMMACULATE
1134
00:46:55,512 --> 00:46:56,720
BEAUTIFUL LOOKING GARDEN.
1135
00:46:56,804 --> 00:46:58,970
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE ABOUT 10 METERS
1136
00:46:59,053 --> 00:47:00,470
AWAY FROM THIS WAREHOUSE WHERE
1137
00:47:00,553 --> 00:47:03,053
ALMOST EVERY DAY YOU'RE SEEING
1138
00:47:03,136 --> 00:47:04,553
BODIES BEING TAKEN AWAY.
1139
00:47:04,637 --> 00:47:09,470
HOW DOES THAT FEEL FOR YOU?
1140
00:47:09,553 --> 00:47:46,553
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1141
00:47:46,637 --> 00:47:49,470
>> IT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST EVERYONE
1142
00:47:49,553 --> 00:47:54,470
AROUND HERE HAS LOST SOMEONE.
1143
00:47:54,553 --> 00:48:07,470
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1144
00:48:07,553 --> 00:48:09,887
>> HOW OLD ARE YOU IF YOU DON'T
1145
00:48:09,970 --> 00:48:12,929
MIND ME ASKING?
1146
00:48:13,011 --> 00:49:13,220
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1147
00:49:13,303 --> 00:49:16,220
>> ITALIANS HERE FACE MORE
1148
00:49:16,303 --> 00:49:19,220
LONELY DAYS AHEAD.
1149
00:49:19,303 --> 00:49:21,220
ITALY PRIME MINISTER HAS
1150
00:49:21,303 --> 00:49:22,720
EXTENDED THE NATIONWIDE LOCKDOWN
1151
00:49:22,804 --> 00:49:23,845
UNTIL MAY 3rd.
1152
00:49:23,929 --> 00:49:25,804
IT FALLS ON THE REGIONAL
1153
00:49:25,887 --> 00:49:29,220
GOVERNMENT TO ASSURE PEOPLE THAT
1154
00:49:29,303 --> 00:49:30,220
THINGS ARE UNDER CONTROL.
1155
00:49:30,303 --> 00:49:30,970
IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING TIME FOR
1156
00:49:31,053 --> 00:49:36,053
YOU AND YOUR GOVERNMENT.
1157
00:49:36,136 --> 00:49:38,387
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON
1158
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:41,428
AT THE MOMENT?
1159
00:49:41,512 --> 00:49:44,261
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1160
00:49:44,345 --> 00:49:46,679
>> GIVEN WE ALL SAW WHAT
1161
00:49:46,762 --> 00:49:47,553
HAPPENED IN CHINA FROM THE END
1162
00:49:47,637 --> 00:49:50,804
OF DECEMBER ONWARD AND WE SAW
1163
00:49:50,887 --> 00:49:52,929
BREAK-OUTS IN EUROPE AND
1164
00:49:53,011 --> 00:49:55,804
PARTICULARLY HERE IN LOMBARDI,
1165
00:49:55,887 --> 00:49:57,053
DO YOU HAVE REGRETS OVER THE
1166
00:49:57,136 --> 00:49:58,136
GOVERNMENT RESPONDING TOO
1167
00:49:58,220 --> 00:49:58,428
SLOWLY?
1168
00:49:58,512 --> 00:50:13,053
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1169
00:50:13,136 --> 00:50:14,970
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF ITALIANS
1170
00:50:15,053 --> 00:50:16,845
WHO ARE ANGRY BECAUSE THEY FEEL
1171
00:50:16,929 --> 00:50:18,178
LIKE THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT
1172
00:50:18,261 --> 00:50:19,095
RESPOND QUICK ENOUGH.
1173
00:50:19,178 --> 00:50:21,178
IF THEY HAD RESPONDED QUICKER,
1174
00:50:21,261 --> 00:50:23,679
MAYBE WE WOULDN'T BE SEEING WHAT
1175
00:50:23,762 --> 00:50:25,679
WE'VE SEEN PLAY OUT OVER THE
1176
00:50:25,762 --> 00:50:26,178
PAST FEW WEEKS.
1177
00:50:26,261 --> 00:50:36,804
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1178
00:50:36,887 --> 00:50:38,345
>> FOR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR
1179
00:50:38,428 --> 00:50:40,804
ANSWERS AS TO WHEN THEY'LL BE
1180
00:50:40,887 --> 00:50:43,053
ALLOWED TO GET BACK TO THEIR
1181
00:50:43,136 --> 00:50:44,470
DAILY LIVES, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY
1182
00:50:44,553 --> 00:50:45,970
TO THEM?
1183
00:50:46,053 --> 00:51:23,220
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1184
00:51:23,303 --> 00:52:07,679
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1185
00:52:07,762 --> 00:52:09,178
>> FUNERALS THEMSELVES ARE RARE.
1186
00:52:09,261 --> 00:52:11,345
WHEN THEY HAPPEN, THEY'RE
1187
00:52:11,428 --> 00:52:13,470
LIMITED TO IMMEDIATE FAMILY
1188
00:52:13,595 --> 00:52:13,887
ONLY.
1189
00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:16,720
LIKE THOSE OF 89-YEAR-OLD
1190
00:52:16,804 --> 00:52:18,887
THERESA MARIA WHO PASSED AWAY IN
1191
00:52:18,970 --> 00:52:21,762
A NURSING HOME WHICH HAS
1192
00:52:21,845 --> 00:52:23,553
RECORDED ABOUT FIVE TIMES MORE
1193
00:52:23,637 --> 00:52:25,887
DEATHS THAN USUAL.
1194
00:52:25,970 --> 00:52:27,095
SHE WAS SHOWING SYMPTOMS OF
1195
00:52:27,178 --> 00:52:28,428
HAVING THE VIRUS.
1196
00:52:28,512 --> 00:52:31,428
LIKE SO MANY OTHERS SHE WAS
1197
00:52:31,512 --> 00:52:49,595
NEVER TESTED.
1198
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:53,595
>> WERE YOU CLOSE WITH YOUR
1199
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:54,679
GRANDMA?
1200
00:52:54,762 --> 00:52:59,679
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1201
00:52:59,762 --> 00:53:07,679
>> WHAT WAS SHE LIKE?
1202
00:53:07,762 --> 00:53:15,345
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1203
00:53:15,428 --> 00:53:18,178
>> DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT
1204
00:53:18,261 --> 00:53:19,762
THAT YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE HER
1205
00:53:19,845 --> 00:53:27,261
FOR THOSE LAST FEW WEEKS?
1206
00:53:27,345 --> 00:53:31,011
>> THIS IS THE MOST -- NOT ONLY
1207
00:53:31,095 --> 00:53:34,845
FOR US, BUT FOR HER.
1208
00:53:34,929 --> 00:53:37,011
SHE WAS LONELY.
1209
00:53:37,095 --> 00:53:37,845
SHE WAS LONELY.
1210
00:53:37,929 --> 00:53:43,261
I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT REAL, LIKE
1211
00:53:43,345 --> 00:53:45,053
IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
1212
00:53:45,136 --> 00:53:46,512
BUT, I KNOW IT IS REAL.
1213
00:53:46,595 --> 00:53:48,053
>> THAT MUST BE SO HARD NOT
1214
00:53:48,178 --> 00:53:50,011
BEING ABLE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE
1215
00:53:50,095 --> 00:53:53,762
AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HUG EACH
1216
00:53:53,845 --> 00:53:53,970
OTHER?
1217
00:53:54,053 --> 00:54:00,929
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1218
00:54:01,011 --> 00:54:03,887
>> THE DISTANCE BETWEEN US IS
1219
00:54:03,970 --> 00:54:05,679
UNREAL.
1220
00:54:05,762 --> 00:54:08,762
IT'S UNNATURAL BECAUSE WE'RE
1221
00:54:08,845 --> 00:54:08,970
HUMAN.
1222
00:54:09,053 --> 00:54:10,762
WE NEED TO HUG.
1223
00:54:10,845 --> 00:54:15,220
WE NEED ALL THE PARTS THAT MAKE
1224
00:54:15,303 --> 00:54:16,720
US HUMAN.
1225
00:54:16,804 --> 00:54:18,929
>> AS THE WORLD FOLLOWS IN
1226
00:54:19,011 --> 00:54:20,887
ITALY'S FOOT STEPS AND LOOKS TO
1227
00:54:20,970 --> 00:54:23,929
THIS REGION SEARCHING FOR SIGNS
1228
00:54:24,011 --> 00:54:25,970
OF HOPE, EVERYONE HERE HAS A
1229
00:54:26,053 --> 00:54:28,053
SIMILAR MESSAGE.
1230
00:54:28,136 --> 00:54:28,970
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE OFFICIAL
1231
00:54:29,053 --> 00:54:34,470
DATA WE'RE SEEING IS ACCURATE?
1232
00:54:34,553 --> 00:54:39,512
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1233
00:54:39,595 --> 00:54:40,845
>> THE GOVERNMENT IS SAYING THAT
1234
00:54:40,929 --> 00:54:42,428
THE DEATH RATE MIGHT BE GOING
1235
00:54:42,512 --> 00:54:43,470
DOWN.
1236
00:54:43,553 --> 00:54:44,804
THINGS MIGHT BE GETTING BETTER.
1237
00:54:44,887 --> 00:54:50,011
THE HOPE IS THAT WE'RE PAST THE
1238
00:54:50,095 --> 00:54:53,970
WORST OF IT HERE.
1239
00:54:54,053 --> 00:55:31,095
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
1240
00:55:31,178 --> 00:55:31,261
♪
1241
00:55:31,345 --> 00:55:31,887
♪
1242
00:55:31,970 --> 00:55:34,261
♪
1243
00:55:34,345 --> 00:55:34,553
♪
1244
00:55:34,637 --> 00:55:35,637
♪
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