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Movies are extremely
compelling expressions,
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not only of stories,
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not only of drama,
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but of the zeitgeist.
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They reflect back to us
who we are
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politically,
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socially,
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religiously.
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There are certain themes
whose moments,
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whose time have arrived.
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And the Satanic themes that
appeared in "Rosemary's Baby"
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just seemed perfectly in step
with the tenor of the times.
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In 1968,
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everything was kind of changing
culturally.
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The Vietnam war was really
at its worst,
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so there was a massive youth
movement to stop the war.
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A lot of people,
including the government,
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feared that this revolution
was actually gonna happen
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in the United States,
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fueled by the youth
of America.
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It was a violent,
turbulent time.
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Male This is a CBS
News Special Report.
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The death of Dr. Martin
Luther King Junior.
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In 1968,
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there was the Martin Luther
King assassination.
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There was the Robert Kennedy
assassination.
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I always say horror films
reflect the times we live,
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"Rosemary's Baby" came out
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at a pivotal moment in history.
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The world was really changing,
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and horror films
changed with it.
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"Rosemary's Baby"
was a milestone movie.
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Not too many mainstream
Hollywood films, even now,
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would deal with a story
of a young woman,
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raped and impregnated
by the devil.
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I think it's one
of the greatest horror movies
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ever made for the very
simple reason
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that it presents
the adversary...
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as us!
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Not someone who transforms
under a full moon,
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comes out only at night.
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But the adversary
is my slightly wacky,
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eccentric, nosy,
if likable, neighbors.
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And I think that's
the movie's genius.
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- That's one of the twists.
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- This is for you,
from Roman and me.
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- It gave people a different
idea of what Satanists are.
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- It's lovely.
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- As a child growing up,
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just emerging as a Satanist
when I was 12-years-old,
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when I heard for the first time
from someone else's lips
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besides mine, "Hail Satan,"
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- Hail, Satan!
- Hail, Satan!
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- Satan is his father!
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- It was inspiring.
It was strengthening.
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If you're not a Satanist,
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and you're not rooting
for the Satanists,
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I suppose it might be
a different perception.
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- Oh God!
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Polanski was in many
ways a bellwether of his times.
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He, too, observed that
traditional hierarchies
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were being upended.
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There was fascination
with witchcraft,
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and questions of the afterlife.
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And of course,
with Anton Lavey's founding
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of the Church of Satan,
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there was a question about
whether adversarial forces
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represented a legitimate
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spiritual or ethical
path for people.
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So, suddenly doors to the
infinite were thrown open.
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And that was part
of the counterculture.
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- There was definitely
a synergy
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between the Church of Satan
and "Rosemary's Baby."
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As far as "Rosemary's Baby"
actually being cursed,
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As far as somebody dying
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or tragedy happening attached
to the film itself,
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there is an idea
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that if you make a wicked film,
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a dark film,
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then you're opening yourself
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up to forces outside yourself
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that could influence your life
in a negative way.
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"Rosemary's Baby"
is considered cursed,
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partly because of its
proximity and time
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to the murder of Polanski's
wife,
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Sharon Tate,
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and her housemates.
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Polanski met
Sharon Tate in London
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in swinging 1967.
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Sharon Tate was obviously
ambitious.
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- I feel a little top-heavy.
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- You are a little top-heavy.
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What's your ultimate
ambition?
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- I want to remain as much
myself as possible,
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you know, and just do
what really excites me,
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and interests me.
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She was also smart
enough to see
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that Polanski was a man
with a future.
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Roman's absolutely
a genius.
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And he was a hard-luck guy.
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He's a brilliant director,
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and he had a lot of hard luck
in his life
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and I'm sure that leaves
its mark,
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but only a psychiatrist
would know that.
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My name
is Julian Wasser.
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I'm a photo-documentarian.
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I'm a photojournalist.
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I started when I was 11,
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I put a police radio
in my father's car.
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I would steal his car
and go out,
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shoot horrible crime scenes.
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What makes a good
crime photograph?
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- Blood. Someone burned alive,
something like that.
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A suicidal-like, Talbert Street
Bridge,
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where the person
lands on the concrete
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and they're smashed to pieces.
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Anything horrible.
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And how did that
transition into
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photographing celebrities?
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Well, in L.A.,
what else is there
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except celebrities?
That's what sells.
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That's what everybody
in the world wants to see.
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Marilyn Monroe,
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Marlon Brando,
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people like that.
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I worked on the set
of "Rosemary's Baby."
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Anything Roman Polanski
touched was a big, big deal.
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You had uh,
Mia Farrow in that,
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I think she was married
to Sinatra then.
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and Bob Evans,
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another charismatic guy
who was involved.
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So it was a big deal,
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I-I felt very privileged
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to be able to work on that set.
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And there's Mia Farrow
in the background
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with a knife on the floor,
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and then Bud Fraker,
the camera guy on the right,
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he's since passed on.
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This was in 1968.
It was a long time ago.
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"Rosemary's Baby"
was written by Ira Levin,
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a self-professed
New York atheist.
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And Levin asked himself
the question one day,
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what would it be like
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if I took a scene
from everyday life,
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a young woman becoming
pregnant,
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and made it into a kind
of a nightmare?
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- Dr. Hill?
Congratulations.
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- Really?
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You're also seeing
this horror
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of women at that time period.
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When you watch that movie,
there's always an older man
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guiding her by the back
of her arm.
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She's always being told
to ignore her instincts,
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to always just sort of mold
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to whatever these men
want from her,
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and she's really absorbing
that.
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That was the story for women
for so many generations
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that they didn't have
any other choice
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but to mold within that world,
or perish.
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It's saying something
about her,
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but it's also equally
subversive
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in that she's going against
her own Catholic faith
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to raise this satanic child.
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One important aspect
that defines "Rosemary's Baby"
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is William Castle's
involvement.
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My dad was the nicest,
kindest,
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most compassionate man,
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who just happened to love
to scare the Hell outta people.
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He was a well-
respected director/producer.
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- Do you believe in ghosts?
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You know, but most of his
films, you know, he was,
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he was the gimmick guy.
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I mean, I loved
"Homicidal,"
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where there was a clock
that came up
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right at the climax
of the film.
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So if you were too
frightened to stay,
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you could leave,
and get your money back.
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He had a film called
"House on Haunted Hill,"
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and something called "Emergo,"
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a skeleton flew across
the theatre,
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to everybody's screams
of delight.
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- It was William Castle
who produced that film,
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and he bought
"Rosemary's Baby,"
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and I was not overjoyed
when he did.
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So my dad definitely
wanted to direct
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"Rosemary's Baby" when
he bought the property.
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And he brought the book to
Robert Evans over at Paramount,
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but it was within the week,
I think,
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that they said, no,
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we're gonna have this young,
hot new director,
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Roman Polanski, direct it.
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And my father was really upset.
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He still was gonna produce
this, but...
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his shot at directing
an "A" film
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was taken away from him.
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- I remember the day
when he called,
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and said that he had decided
not to direct it himself.
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He was getting Roman Polanski,
and was I terribly unhappy?
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So I said no, I think I can
get over that. So--
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And I remember Roman
coming over the house,
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and my Dad saw Roman's
fantastic talent,
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and thought,
okay, let's do this.
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We have four
main characters
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in "Rosemary's Baby."
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In the leading spot
is Mia Farrow,
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and John Cassavetes
is playing her husband.
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Roman is a craftsman.
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The best, and I trusted him.
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All the way.
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There is a long-standing
rumor that Anton Lavey,
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the founder of the Church
of Satan
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was a technical advisor
to the film,
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or played the role of Satan
himself in the movie.
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Anton Lavey got
involved for authenticity
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and advice.
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- Hail, Satan.
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- Hail, Satan.
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- Anton had talked about
Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra
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having friction on this set,
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he talked about John Cassavetes
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and Polanski having
some friction
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because they both
wanted to direct.
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The exterior filming
of "Rosemary's Baby"
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was obviously filmed
in New York City,
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but the interiors
were all built
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on the Paramount Studios lot.
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Interesting, Paramount Studios
is actually...
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former cemetery property.
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"Hollywood Memorial Park,"
right behind it,
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used to be twice as big
as it is.
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This wall that you see
on to our right,
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This is the wall
of the cemetery.
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in the early nineteen-teens,
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Hollywood Cemetery was actually
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literally cut in half,
and sold.
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And on the other half,
a movie studio was built.
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Where this traffic light is,
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is where Hollywood
Cemetery ends,
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and where Paramount Studios
begins.
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I have no doubt that
there are remains
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underneath Paramount Studio.
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So the studio itself is fairly,
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I think I can say with
confidence, haunted.
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I don't know
if "Rosemary's Baby"
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is the most cursed film.
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And I don't know if there's
such a thing as a "cursed set,"
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but I wouldn't bet
my life on it.
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After the film was made,
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bad stuff started to happen.
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With "Rosemary's Baby,"
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all of these terrible
things that took place
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in the actors, and actresses
and producers' lives
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happened after the film's
release.
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The Krzysztof Komeda story
is a key one for me.
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Krzysztof Komeda was a prolific
jazz musician.
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He'd had about 60 film
soundtracks already
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under his belt before he
started working with Polanski.
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He'd worked on other films
with Polanski
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like "Cul-de-Sac,"
and "Knife in the Water."
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"Rosemary's Lullaby" at the
opening credits of the film
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is one of the most iconic
pieces of Music
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in terms of horror films
that we have.
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So, according to Polanski,
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after the film in December '68,
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he was drinking with Komeda
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and another guy called Hlasko,
who was a writer.
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And those two got involved
in a bit of rough and tumble,
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and Komeda fell and hit
his head.
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That's one version of events.
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Another story says he was
in a car accident in L.A..
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What we do know as fact is
that he developed a hematoma
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on the brain
and fell into a coma,
273
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and sadly died three
months later.
274
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Now there's a dark reflection
on that in the film.
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Obviously, Rosemary's friend,
Hutch.
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- Hutch, this is Roman
Castevet.
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He is targeted
by a coven of witches.
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He develops a mystery illness
and falls into a coma,
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and dies three months later.
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- Hutch is dead.
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Just like Komeda.
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In the spiritual world,
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there's a thing which is known
as a "God wink."
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When you have a coincidence
which is a good coincidence,
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The idea is that's God
winking at you
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to let you know that
you're on the right path.
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I think there were certain
dark coincidences
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such as Komeda's death
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and Hutch's death in the film,
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which is kind of like
a devil wink,
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for want of a better phrase.
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It's kind of like the devil
himself saying
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that you're not
on the right track.
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Right after
the film premiered,
295
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my Dad had to go in for major,
major surgery.
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His kidney stopped working,
297
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and he was convinced he saw
the reflection of the devil
298
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in the surgeon's knife.
299
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But that's only part of it.
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When the Catholic Church
gave it a C rating
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and condemned it.
302
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When he got hate mail
303
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saying that he was gonna rot
in Hell.
304
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He went into a depression.
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He's used to making kind of
fun horror films, you know,
306
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and all of the sudden,
he thought,
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what did I bring
into this world?
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The night before I gave labor
to my second child,
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I dreamt that I was Rosemary.
- Really?
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- Which is not a real pleasant
thing to dream
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right before you're about to go
and give birth to a baby.
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Yeah.
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And it has affected how
I wanna protect my children,
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and how one child
I wasn't able to protect.
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I had one child who died
of cancer.
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Was that the curse?
I don't know.
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And my sister died very young
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of a heart and kidney issue.
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Was that the curse?
I don't know.
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And my mother had Alzheimer's
at a very young age,
321
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and lived with Alzheimer's
for 20 years.
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Was that the curse?
I don't know.
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The events
of "Rosemary's Baby"
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take place in 1966,
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which was the very year
Anton Lavey
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founded the Church of Satan.
327
00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:04,006
Of course, in one of the famous
scenes from "Rosemary's Baby,"
328
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Rosemary is seated
in the waiting room
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of her obstetrician
330
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and picks up a copy
of Time Magazine,
331
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which famously has on its cover
the question,
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"Is God Dead?"
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The Western world experienced
an occult revival
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by the late 60s with
the Woodstock Generation.
335
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It's like people that
are nowhere are coming here
336
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because there's people that
they think are somewhere.
337
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So everybody is like,
really looking for you know,
338
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for some kind of answer.
Where there isn't one.
339
00:16:32,339 --> 00:16:34,602
It's just like, people
are very lost, I think.
340
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- The intersection
of the hippie movement
341
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and the occult movement makes
a lot of sense to me.
342
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Because I think they're
hand-in-hand in terms
343
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of the type of ideas
that they were exploring.
344
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You know, with the hippie
movement you have like,
345
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this sort of, return
to the land idealism.
346
00:16:50,226 --> 00:16:52,272
it's going back to these
sort of paganistic
347
00:16:52,315 --> 00:16:54,448
religious systems.
348
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I think that the obsession
with witchcraft
349
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and the occult during
the 1960s and 1970s
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originated in England in 1951,
351
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when there was the reversal
of the Witchcraft Act,
352
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which had been put in place
in 1735,
353
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and that did not allow anyone
to openly practice witchcraft.
354
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So when that was lifted,
355
00:17:18,428 --> 00:17:20,822
you've got this whole
kind of explosion
356
00:17:20,865 --> 00:17:22,780
of everybody wanting
to explore this topic,
357
00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:24,304
because they previously
weren't allowed to.
358
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You have these kind of
mind-altering drugs
359
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that are also playing
a factor
360
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in this great awakening
361
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that was occurring
in the culture.
362
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People who really started
using LSD recreationally
363
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would kind of have um,
364
00:17:41,712 --> 00:17:44,672
religious experiences,
and hallucinations.
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- Help me!
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Some of them
explored all kinds
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00:17:48,806 --> 00:17:50,808
of mystical religions,
368
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and some people became
interested in Satanism.
369
00:17:55,639 --> 00:17:57,946
There were rumors that Sharon
Tate dabbled in Satanism.
370
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If she did,
371
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I think it was more out
of curiosity and fun,
372
00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:07,303
but there were other people
373
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who had gotten serious
about it.
374
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I'm trying to think if there
were any famous people
375
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,832
who ever admitted it,
376
00:18:14,876 --> 00:18:16,965
Sammy Davis Jr.
identified,
377
00:18:17,008 --> 00:18:18,967
and called himself a Satanist.
378
00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:21,143
He understood that Satanism
379
00:18:22,753 --> 00:18:24,407
was an advocate for minority
positions
380
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in a lot of ways.
381
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That was a period
in Sammy's life
382
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that he later wrote about
383
00:18:31,022 --> 00:18:32,937
and was very public about.
384
00:18:32,981 --> 00:18:35,157
But what's truly weird
385
00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:37,812
is that Sammy Davis Jr's
memoir,
386
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"Yes, I Can,"
387
00:18:39,292 --> 00:18:42,251
can be seen very prominently
388
00:18:42,295 --> 00:18:44,949
on screen at least twice,
389
00:18:44,993 --> 00:18:47,735
once when Rosemary is snuggling
up with the book,
390
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:52,566
Then another time when
Guy is tucking away
391
00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:54,568
a book on witches that Rosemary
had been given,
392
00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:57,614
and we see the spine
of Sammy Davis' book,
393
00:18:57,658 --> 00:18:59,181
very prominently featured.
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00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:05,144
As a man whose life
was impacted by evil,
395
00:19:06,580 --> 00:19:09,278
Polanski, he has to be
seen as an artist
396
00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:11,585
who, at that time,
397
00:19:11,628 --> 00:19:14,370
was trying to expose us
398
00:19:14,414 --> 00:19:16,198
to questions of evil
in ourselves.
399
00:19:19,549 --> 00:19:22,465
When we talk about
having a tough childhood,
400
00:19:22,509 --> 00:19:25,425
it's hard to compare to what
actually happened to Polanski.
401
00:19:27,905 --> 00:19:30,473
Polanski's mother, Bula,
402
00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:33,259
was taken to Auschwitz,
403
00:19:33,302 --> 00:19:35,957
and she happened to have
been four months pregnant
404
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,438
at the time,
405
00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:40,222
which was significant
because of course,
406
00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,920
one of the first things
that happened on arrival
407
00:19:42,964 --> 00:19:46,141
at these terrible places
was an inspection
408
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,926
as to whether or not
you were fit for work.
409
00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:53,061
Tragically,
she was exterminated.
410
00:19:54,845 --> 00:19:57,935
Polanski's father
was also arrested.
411
00:20:00,242 --> 00:20:03,202
He eventually ended up
in terrible circumstances
412
00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:07,380
having to work at
the Mauthausen camps,
413
00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:11,427
what was called
the "staircase of death,"
414
00:20:11,471 --> 00:20:14,735
which involved carrying
these huge slabs of rock
415
00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:17,738
up and down rough stone steps.
416
00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:21,785
And if you fell, you were
basically left to die.
417
00:20:24,397 --> 00:20:26,834
Polanski's father
survived two years
418
00:20:26,877 --> 00:20:29,097
of this nightmarish ordeal,
419
00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:32,840
and eventually was liberated
by the Americans
420
00:20:32,883 --> 00:20:35,234
in the spring of 1945,
421
00:20:36,409 --> 00:20:38,280
and reunited with his child.
422
00:20:39,716 --> 00:20:42,589
By this stage, Roman Polanski
already had seen
423
00:20:42,632 --> 00:20:45,896
more real horror and bloodshed
in his life
424
00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:48,334
than most of us would care
to see
425
00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:50,292
in our entire lives.
426
00:20:50,336 --> 00:20:53,295
And that was just
the beginning.
427
00:20:58,605 --> 00:21:01,042
The year after
the film came out,
428
00:21:01,085 --> 00:21:03,653
one of the most impactful
moments of my young life
429
00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:06,003
was driving up to San
Francisco.
430
00:21:07,353 --> 00:21:09,398
We pulled over to the curb,
431
00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:11,792
and my dad saw a newspaper
stand and read the headline
432
00:21:11,835 --> 00:21:13,620
that Sharon Tate
had had been murdered,
433
00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:15,535
and her baby had been murdered.
434
00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:19,495
And they turned the car around,
and we drove right back.
435
00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:23,978
Well, I got up,
and I heard a lot of sirens.
436
00:21:24,021 --> 00:21:25,675
I called the police department
and I said,
437
00:21:25,719 --> 00:21:28,112
what's going on in west L.A.?
438
00:21:28,156 --> 00:21:31,028
And they told me there was
an incident on Cielo Drive.
439
00:21:32,769 --> 00:21:34,684
And I got dressed
and went right up there.
440
00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:39,167
This incredible
true crime case
441
00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:41,735
is like nothing else.
442
00:21:41,778 --> 00:21:44,128
It involves rock stars
and movie stars.
443
00:21:45,391 --> 00:21:47,784
If you didn't know
it was a true crime,
444
00:21:47,828 --> 00:21:49,917
you would think it's a movie.
445
00:21:51,832 --> 00:21:53,355
My name's Scott Michaels,
446
00:21:53,399 --> 00:21:55,357
and this is Dearly
Departed Tours.
447
00:21:55,401 --> 00:21:57,925
And welcome back to 1969.
448
00:21:57,968 --> 00:22:00,057
I put together
the "Helter Skelter Tour"
449
00:22:00,101 --> 00:22:02,408
probably about 13 years ago.
450
00:22:03,757 --> 00:22:05,367
Three weeks prior to
the Tate-LaBianca murders,
451
00:22:05,411 --> 00:22:07,369
the first man walked
on the moon.
452
00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:09,066
A couple of weeks prior
to that,
453
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:10,807
Judy Garland died in London.
454
00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:12,896
Her funeral in New York kicked
off the Stonewall Riots,
455
00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:14,898
and the Gay Rights Movement
went into full swing.
456
00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:18,989
Myself, I'm obsessed
with the year 1969.
457
00:22:19,033 --> 00:22:20,948
"Incense and Peppermints,"
"White Rabbit,"
458
00:22:20,991 --> 00:22:22,732
Jefferson Airplane.
459
00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:25,039
You got the peace sign,
you got mushrooms.
460
00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:27,171
On the very day of the murders,
August 8th,
461
00:22:27,215 --> 00:22:30,131
just a few hours before the
Tate murders in Beverly Hills,
462
00:22:30,174 --> 00:22:33,047
the Beatles took that
iconic Abbey Road
463
00:22:33,090 --> 00:22:35,571
album cover photograph,
which I think is fascinating,
464
00:22:35,615 --> 00:22:37,356
because they figure
into this case.
465
00:22:37,399 --> 00:22:40,402
This is important to me,
the addresses of Cielo Drive,
466
00:22:40,446 --> 00:22:43,362
and the LaBianca's house
on Waverly Drive,
467
00:22:43,405 --> 00:22:46,016
because I spent so much
of my time in my life
468
00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:48,410
researching them, and I wanted
to commemorate them.
469
00:22:49,672 --> 00:22:51,587
Cielo drive is still
a tourist attraction.
470
00:22:53,023 --> 00:22:55,765
Although the house has been
gone since 1993,
471
00:22:55,809 --> 00:22:57,680
and a new house has been put
in its place.
472
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,555
Roman and Sharon
moved into the house
473
00:23:02,598 --> 00:23:04,774
in February of '69.
474
00:23:04,818 --> 00:23:06,341
It was a rental.
475
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:08,561
And by the end of March,
476
00:23:08,604 --> 00:23:11,520
both of them had gone to Europe
to do separate projects.
477
00:23:11,564 --> 00:23:14,871
Roman went to London to work
on the script
478
00:23:14,915 --> 00:23:17,091
and pre-production
for "Day of the Dolphin,"
479
00:23:17,134 --> 00:23:20,747
which was a film he planned
to direct, but he never did.
480
00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:22,662
- Va-go-now-mei-nah-her-pas!
481
00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,101
- Yes!
482
00:23:27,144 --> 00:23:28,363
- And while they were gone,
483
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:31,061
Roman had Abigail Folger
and Wojciech
484
00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:32,759
kind of take care of the house.
485
00:23:33,977 --> 00:23:35,718
Cielo Drive
is in the middle
486
00:23:35,762 --> 00:23:37,154
of Benedict Canyon, basically.
487
00:23:38,329 --> 00:23:40,723
This tragic boulevard
488
00:23:40,767 --> 00:23:43,813
that makes its way
from the Sunset Strip,
489
00:23:43,857 --> 00:23:45,989
all the way over
to the San Fernando Valley.
490
00:23:48,514 --> 00:23:50,864
Benedict Canyon is located on...
491
00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:52,474
I think this is official,
492
00:23:52,518 --> 00:23:54,998
like, like a Native American
493
00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:56,478
burial ground.
494
00:23:56,522 --> 00:23:58,741
And I believe somehow,
some way,
495
00:23:58,785 --> 00:24:01,178
something terrible
was wished upon the place,
496
00:24:01,222 --> 00:24:03,093
because there are too many
things that happened
497
00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:05,444
in Benedict Canyon
for it to be a coincidence.
498
00:24:07,881 --> 00:24:09,709
Well, starting from the very
base of Benedict Canyon
499
00:24:09,752 --> 00:24:12,102
is the Beverly Hills Hotel,
where Peter Finch...
500
00:24:12,146 --> 00:24:13,713
- I'm as mad as Hell,
501
00:24:13,756 --> 00:24:16,324
and I'm not gonna take this
anymore!
502
00:24:16,367 --> 00:24:18,544
- the Australian actor died
of a heart attack in the lobby,
503
00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:21,547
winning the first posthumous
Academy Award.
504
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:23,723
- Peter Finch, in "Network."
505
00:24:23,766 --> 00:24:25,855
- A little bit further up
is where Richard Dreyfus
506
00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:27,770
was nearly killed
in a car crash.
507
00:24:27,814 --> 00:24:30,686
Across the street from where
a musician named Charo lives.
508
00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:34,211
Her husband killed himself in
the alley behind their house.
509
00:24:34,255 --> 00:24:36,300
A Benedict Canyon address.
510
00:24:36,344 --> 00:24:38,433
A little bit further up
was where Elizabeth Montgomery
511
00:24:38,477 --> 00:24:40,261
from "Bewitched"
lived and died,
512
00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:42,132
across the street
from John Ritter's house.
513
00:24:42,176 --> 00:24:44,134
John Riter didn't die
in Benedict Canyon,
514
00:24:44,178 --> 00:24:45,788
but he lived there at the time.
515
00:24:45,832 --> 00:24:48,138
A little bit further up,
Susan Berman was murdered
516
00:24:48,182 --> 00:24:49,705
in Benedict Canyon,
517
00:24:49,749 --> 00:24:51,620
the Durst murders that they
made the documentary about.
518
00:24:53,274 --> 00:24:55,276
About five doors down,
George Reeves, "Superman,"
519
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,234
died of a speeding bullet
to the head.
520
00:24:58,366 --> 00:25:00,281
A little bit further up,
521
00:25:00,324 --> 00:25:02,283
there was a woman by the name
of Yvette Vickers.
522
00:25:02,326 --> 00:25:03,937
She was a B-movie star,
she was in "Sunset Boulevard,"
523
00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:05,939
she was in "The Attack
of the 50 Foot Woman."
524
00:25:05,982 --> 00:25:08,332
She died in her home.
She wasn't found for months.
525
00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:10,421
A little bit further up,
526
00:25:10,465 --> 00:25:12,249
Paul Bern and Jean Harlow's
house.
527
00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:13,729
Paul Bern killed himself
in that house.
528
00:25:13,773 --> 00:25:15,862
Jay Sebring moves
into that house.
529
00:25:15,905 --> 00:25:18,473
Rudolph Valentino lived across
the way from the Tate murders,
530
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:20,562
and then Doris Duke,
the tobacco heiress,
531
00:25:20,606 --> 00:25:23,957
died in that same house under
very mysterious circumstances.
532
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,569
Her butler inherited something
like $500 billion.
533
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:30,137
He bought a house in Benedict,
and died a couple months later.
534
00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:33,009
There's so many stories
about Benedict Canyon,
535
00:25:34,924 --> 00:25:37,274
but it all goes up
to Cielo Drive,
536
00:25:37,318 --> 00:25:39,146
where the Tate murders happen.
537
00:25:39,189 --> 00:25:42,149
That seems to be the awful
notorious crown jewel
538
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,891
of Benedict Canyon.
539
00:25:48,459 --> 00:25:51,811
I couldn't believe that
these souls could do that.
540
00:25:53,116 --> 00:25:55,075
We are a family!
541
00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:56,642
Men and Kill every white
mother,
542
00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:59,079
every white babe.
543
00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:00,950
I just was in shock.
544
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:04,040
I couldn't believe Tex
could do that.
545
00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:06,042
Susan, and Patty.
546
00:26:10,177 --> 00:26:12,962
I remember Tex slapped
the newspaper,
547
00:26:13,006 --> 00:26:15,312
and the headline read
something like,
548
00:26:16,618 --> 00:26:18,402
"Tate-LaBianca Murders."
549
00:26:20,535 --> 00:26:22,972
And he slaps that,
and he says,
550
00:26:23,016 --> 00:26:26,149
"I did this.
Charlie told me to."
551
00:26:27,324 --> 00:26:28,935
My name is Dianne Lake,
552
00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:31,024
former member of the Manson
family,
553
00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:33,156
formerly known as "Snake."
554
00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:38,031
I was 14,
555
00:26:38,074 --> 00:26:39,815
when I got introduced
to Charlie and the girls,
556
00:26:41,556 --> 00:26:43,819
they opened their arms to me,
557
00:26:43,863 --> 00:26:46,474
and I felt wanted,
and I felt loved there.
558
00:26:46,517 --> 00:26:48,476
But I think that what happened
559
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,783
was that he had this experience
560
00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:53,089
of being crucified on acid.
561
00:26:56,702 --> 00:26:59,443
And I think he started to
believe that he was a Messiah,
562
00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:06,494
that's when it really
started to turn was,
563
00:27:06,537 --> 00:27:09,062
you know,
maybe nine months in,
564
00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:11,020
when we got to Spahn Ranch.
565
00:27:11,064 --> 00:27:13,936
He'd been always talking
about this race war.
566
00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:17,723
That's when he started getting
enamored with the White Album,
567
00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:20,203
and that the Beatles were
sending him a message.
568
00:27:20,247 --> 00:27:23,380
Then this black/white race war
became Helter Skelter.
569
00:27:25,121 --> 00:27:28,168
This race war was like
an apocalypse.
570
00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:29,648
You know, a lot of people
were gonna die.
571
00:27:31,084 --> 00:27:35,436
We, as a family,
were going to be preserved.
572
00:27:35,479 --> 00:27:39,048
Charlie wanted us to have
babies for creation,
573
00:27:41,485 --> 00:27:43,836
and that we would help
repopulate the earth.
574
00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:47,622
It seems--
575
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:49,668
it's kind of crazy
to talk about, but...
576
00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:51,800
you know, um,
577
00:27:51,844 --> 00:27:53,672
but that, you know,
looking back,
578
00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:55,412
that's really, that was--
579
00:27:56,587 --> 00:27:59,155
that was what he wanted to do.
580
00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:04,813
There's an obvious link
from Charles Manson
581
00:28:04,857 --> 00:28:06,510
to "Rosemary's Baby."
582
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,426
The Dakota building was used
as the outside
583
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:10,689
of the Bramford, as we know.
584
00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:13,866
John Lennon had an apartment
in the Dakota.
585
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:16,042
And then you say,
okay, well...
586
00:28:16,085 --> 00:28:18,653
the large bulk of the White
Album was written in India,
587
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,873
during a retreat.
588
00:28:20,916 --> 00:28:24,180
And at that retreat
was Mia Farrow.
589
00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:27,662
Mia Farrow, who was
friends with Sharon Tate,
590
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:29,751
and Roman, hung out
with the Beatles,
591
00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:31,710
went to India with her sister,
592
00:28:31,753 --> 00:28:33,755
songs were named after them,
593
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:36,410
verses in classic Beatles songs
refer to Mia and her sister.
594
00:28:37,628 --> 00:28:38,804
You mentioned
the White Album,
595
00:28:38,847 --> 00:28:40,806
and John Lennon,
and what's eerie
596
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:43,678
is that in the scene where
Rosemary is in the taxicab
597
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,767
and she's got that like,
occult book
598
00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:47,595
that she gets from
the bookstore,
599
00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:49,249
in the background, there's
always this white Beetle
600
00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:50,990
that's like, trailing her.
601
00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:54,384
There's a white VW Beetle
602
00:28:54,428 --> 00:28:56,343
that's throughout the film,
actually.
603
00:28:56,386 --> 00:28:58,040
You always see it parked
out front of the building.
604
00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,652
A lot of what the film
is dealing with
605
00:29:01,696 --> 00:29:03,698
is what's hidden
in plain sight.
606
00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:07,571
- The Dakota building is
the outside of the Bramford,
607
00:29:07,615 --> 00:29:09,443
and that's where the writer
of those songs
608
00:29:09,486 --> 00:29:11,619
would eventually be murdered.
609
00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:13,795
My gosh, the Dakota,
610
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,841
where "Rosemary's Baby"
was filmed,
611
00:29:15,884 --> 00:29:17,799
and John Lennon was murdered
right in front of it.
612
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:20,019
News John Lennon gave
his autograph to the gunman
613
00:29:20,062 --> 00:29:22,935
six hours before the senseless
shooting,
614
00:29:22,978 --> 00:29:25,372
in the entrance to his New York
apartment building.
615
00:29:25,415 --> 00:29:27,243
That's sinister.
616
00:29:28,505 --> 00:29:30,290
If you look
at the scene
617
00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,292
where the woman jumps
out of a window
618
00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:34,207
in "Rosemary's Baby" and
you know, commits suicide,
619
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:36,078
Get back.
620
00:29:36,122 --> 00:29:39,342
- It's the exact spot where
John Lennon was shot.
621
00:29:41,692 --> 00:29:43,738
And it's very eerie,
622
00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,784
because you're thinking
about the White Album,
623
00:29:45,827 --> 00:29:47,524
and you're thinking
about Helter Skelter.
624
00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:52,573
Then we say, okay,
so Charles Manson,
625
00:29:52,616 --> 00:29:55,315
who plays a big part in the
curse of "Rosemary's Baby,"
626
00:29:55,358 --> 00:29:58,361
He said he was inspired
by songs on the White Album,
627
00:29:58,405 --> 00:30:01,843
and nine months after
the White Album's release,
628
00:30:01,887 --> 00:30:03,889
Charles Manson and the Manson
family
629
00:30:03,932 --> 00:30:05,629
murdered Sharon Tate.
630
00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:10,069
You can find a connection
between anything,
631
00:30:10,112 --> 00:30:11,722
if you look hard enough,
632
00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:15,814
but it doesn't necessarily mean
that it's not true.
633
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,385
If we take a look,
for example, Victoria Vetri,
634
00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:25,693
she's one of the key players
in the curse
635
00:30:25,736 --> 00:30:28,174
of "Rosemary's Baby."
636
00:30:28,217 --> 00:30:30,306
So she only has a bit part
in "Rosemary's Baby."
637
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:32,265
She plays Terry,
638
00:30:32,308 --> 00:30:35,181
who is taken in by
the Castevets
639
00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:37,531
before she eventually allegedly
640
00:30:37,574 --> 00:30:38,793
throws herself out of a window.
641
00:30:39,925 --> 00:30:41,578
So, Victoria Vetri,
642
00:30:41,622 --> 00:30:43,450
she does also go by the alias
of Angela Dorian.
643
00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:46,845
After "Rosemary's Baby,"
644
00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:48,847
she became very close friends
with Sharon Tate.
645
00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:51,023
After the Manson murders,
646
00:30:51,066 --> 00:30:53,721
Victoria then went into
a dark paranoia.
647
00:30:55,331 --> 00:30:56,985
She doesn't want to go
out at night.
648
00:30:58,204 --> 00:31:00,075
She becomes quite reclusive.
649
00:31:06,168 --> 00:31:08,344
My name is Victoria Vetri,
650
00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:10,259
and I was born in Hollyweird.
651
00:31:11,434 --> 00:31:13,349
I mean, Hollywood.
652
00:31:14,698 --> 00:31:16,396
I did a lot of films
and TV shows.
653
00:31:16,439 --> 00:31:17,963
I still get residuals.
654
00:31:18,006 --> 00:31:19,834
I enjoy being an actress
and entertaining people,
655
00:31:21,096 --> 00:31:23,142
and I love to move.
I love to move!
656
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,275
There's all these films
that I look at
657
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:27,973
and I'm in shock,
I'm going,
658
00:31:28,016 --> 00:31:29,931
oh my God, I never even got
a chance to see them.
659
00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:32,238
And I'm going,
wow, that was me,
660
00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:33,717
you know, when I was younger.
661
00:31:33,761 --> 00:31:35,763
I'm happy, though.
662
00:31:35,806 --> 00:31:37,199
I'm living with someone that
I really care for right now.
663
00:31:38,592 --> 00:31:40,159
- My name's Mark Melvin,
664
00:31:40,202 --> 00:31:42,291
And I'm a friend
of Victoria Vetri.
665
00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:43,553
You are Victoria's...
- Play toy.
666
00:31:46,339 --> 00:31:47,949
- Bravo, bravo!
667
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:49,690
- Yeah.
668
00:31:51,692 --> 00:31:53,781
Back in the '60s, she really
had a booming career
669
00:31:53,824 --> 00:31:56,044
in Hollywood going on.
670
00:31:57,567 --> 00:31:59,395
It's been so long
since I looked back
671
00:31:59,439 --> 00:32:01,136
at some of these things.
672
00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:02,921
Maybe I should see them again
so I can remember them,
673
00:32:02,964 --> 00:32:04,879
I mean, as I'm getting older,
674
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:06,620
my-I'm losing part
of my brains.
675
00:32:06,663 --> 00:32:08,491
No, I'm just kidding.
676
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:10,450
Do you remember
working with Mia Farrow?
677
00:32:11,668 --> 00:32:13,714
- Vaguely, yeah, I think so.
678
00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:15,368
I mean, I'm trying to remember
what film we--
679
00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:17,065
what we did together.
680
00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:19,067
- My name is Terry Ginoffrio.
- Nice to meet you.
681
00:32:19,111 --> 00:32:20,895
I'm Rosemary Woodhouse.
682
00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:23,158
And that's me,
with the dark wig on.
683
00:32:23,202 --> 00:32:25,639
and I'm washing clothes
back there.
684
00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:27,075
- Did you have to rehearse
this scene at all,
685
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:28,598
or did you just uh...
- No.
686
00:32:28,642 --> 00:32:30,078
We just went through with it.
687
00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:31,775
I enjoyed working with her too.
688
00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:33,908
What was her name again?
689
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:35,910
- Mia Farrow.
- Mia Farrow, yes.
690
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:37,694
Excellent,
beautiful actress, too.
691
00:32:39,131 --> 00:32:41,002
- It's kind of an interesting
story, the way we met,
692
00:32:41,046 --> 00:32:43,178
basically, through the pink car
that Playboy--
693
00:32:43,222 --> 00:32:45,137
- Oh yeah!
- gave her in 1968
694
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,877
for being Playmate of the Year.
695
00:32:46,921 --> 00:32:49,097
- I was Playmate of the Year,
696
00:32:49,141 --> 00:32:51,186
and I had no clothes on.
697
00:32:52,492 --> 00:32:54,276
- I ended up buying
that car in 2010,
698
00:32:56,191 --> 00:32:58,106
and I was excited, I was gonna
meet the Playmate of the Year.
699
00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:01,196
And then three months
afterwards,
700
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,111
I heard that she had shot
her husband.
701
00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:05,374
- I was, I was a bad girl.
702
00:33:08,595 --> 00:33:10,466
- Don't do that again.
- Never.
703
00:33:10,510 --> 00:33:12,033
- Especially not me.
- Oh, I would never hurt you.
704
00:33:12,077 --> 00:33:13,643
You know that.
705
00:33:13,687 --> 00:33:15,558
I only hurt myself.
706
00:33:15,602 --> 00:33:17,125
Well, he's alive.
- He survived, yeah.
707
00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:19,345
- Thank God, but I'm trying
to remember all this.
708
00:33:19,388 --> 00:33:22,087
Oh my gosh,
I don't even know what--
709
00:33:23,262 --> 00:33:24,959
- That's because
of your memory.
710
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,614
- Well, my memory's coming
and going sometimes.
711
00:33:27,657 --> 00:33:29,485
Just...
712
00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:31,531
So...
713
00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:41,106
My name
is Bruce Rathgeb.
714
00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:45,197
Victoria was a waitress
between acting jobs, I guess.
715
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,329
And I was a chef.
716
00:33:47,373 --> 00:33:48,939
So that's how we met,
717
00:33:48,983 --> 00:33:52,073
and kinda had a chemistry
right off,
718
00:33:52,117 --> 00:33:53,770
We were flirtin'
with each other.
719
00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:58,297
We had a great 20 years
together.
720
00:33:58,340 --> 00:34:01,082
The last five,
Baby, you almost killed me.
721
00:34:02,823 --> 00:34:04,520
Oh, Bruce Rathgeb.
Oh dear.
722
00:34:04,564 --> 00:34:06,522
Victoria Rathgeb, eww!
723
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:11,353
I was in a band,
and she'd be saying,
724
00:34:11,397 --> 00:34:13,399
there was girls at your
rehearsal, and this and that.
725
00:34:13,442 --> 00:34:15,314
I'm saying, no, no, you know.
726
00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:18,926
I don't like to talk
negative about people that I--
727
00:34:18,969 --> 00:34:21,146
you know, once you are married
and living with them,
728
00:34:21,189 --> 00:34:24,149
and they wanna keep you
in their order.
729
00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:27,108
I find out that
he's cheating on me?
730
00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:29,415
Uh-uh! Later.
731
00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:31,112
And I said,
"I'm not gonna fight."
732
00:34:31,156 --> 00:34:32,896
And here she comes
with the gun.
733
00:34:34,420 --> 00:34:36,030
I said, you're gonna shoot me,
really, for-for what?
734
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:39,381
And I saw her aiming the gun,
and I couldn't watch.
735
00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:41,122
So I turned my back, and...
736
00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:43,559
pop, she shot me in the back.
737
00:34:45,953 --> 00:34:47,824
It went through my lung,
738
00:34:47,868 --> 00:34:49,826
and I guess they went
to operate,
739
00:34:49,870 --> 00:34:51,524
the bullet was a 1/4-inch
from my heart
740
00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:53,178
so they left it in me.
741
00:34:53,221 --> 00:34:55,832
It's still in me now,
traveling around somewhere.
742
00:34:55,876 --> 00:34:57,617
At one point,
my doctor x-rayed me,
743
00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:59,619
and it was in my right
shoulder.
744
00:34:59,662 --> 00:35:01,186
So, yeah, it's crazy.
745
00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:07,801
I loved her.
746
00:35:07,844 --> 00:35:09,019
And I still love her.
747
00:35:12,675 --> 00:35:15,417
She spent eight
years in prison.
748
00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:17,680
- Was it eight years?
Oh my God.
749
00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:19,639
- And she's been on parole
for three years now,
750
00:35:19,682 --> 00:35:21,206
and it's scheduled to end
in one month.
751
00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,252
- I'm trying to remember what
the Hell got me in prison,
752
00:35:24,296 --> 00:35:25,949
to be honest, I'm--
753
00:35:25,993 --> 00:35:27,255
- She doesn't-I don't think
she really remembers
754
00:35:27,299 --> 00:35:29,257
the incident so much.
755
00:35:29,301 --> 00:35:31,781
- I don't, it's really weird.
756
00:35:31,825 --> 00:35:34,915
- I think she remembers
that she was in prison.
757
00:35:34,958 --> 00:35:36,612
Maybe she doesn't want
to remember.
758
00:35:38,832 --> 00:35:41,313
Well, I think I wonder
why she really shot me.
759
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,187
She had the gun when I met her.
760
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:47,884
Um, it was a Walther PPK 9mm.
761
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,757
A very good gun.
762
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,151
- Walther PPK. 7.65 mil,
763
00:35:53,194 --> 00:35:55,544
with a delivery like a brick
through a plate glass window.
764
00:35:56,937 --> 00:35:58,286
- She got it as protection,
uh...
765
00:35:58,330 --> 00:36:00,070
because of the Manson murders.
766
00:36:01,507 --> 00:36:03,465
She had the gun
all those years,
767
00:36:03,509 --> 00:36:05,206
and then ended up shooting me,
768
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:06,903
instead of Charlie.
769
00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:11,821
- So, "Rosemary's Baby"
was 1968.
770
00:36:11,865 --> 00:36:15,999
The Manson murders happened
in '69, a year later,
771
00:36:16,043 --> 00:36:19,394
but Victoria was invited
to be up there at the house,
772
00:36:19,438 --> 00:36:22,354
and stayed home
for whatever reason.
773
00:36:22,397 --> 00:36:24,356
But uh, she was quite surprised
to wake up the next morning
774
00:36:24,399 --> 00:36:26,749
to find out everybody
that had gone up
775
00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:28,403
to the house that night
was now dead.
776
00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:34,192
Male In a scene
described by one investigator
777
00:36:34,235 --> 00:36:36,455
as reminiscent of a weird
religious rite,
778
00:36:36,498 --> 00:36:38,935
five persons, including actress
Sharon Tate,
779
00:36:38,979 --> 00:36:40,937
were found dead
at the home of Ms. Tate
780
00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:43,288
and her husband, screen
director, Roman Polanski.
781
00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:47,117
The house that had known
a number of movie star tenants,
782
00:36:47,161 --> 00:36:50,033
suddenly became a scene more
tragic than any horror movie.
783
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,776
- We have a weird homicide.
784
00:36:55,038 --> 00:36:56,997
We're trying to piece the thing
together
785
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,478
with what small amount of
physical evidence we have,
786
00:36:59,521 --> 00:37:01,610
and anything that I tell you
at this point
787
00:37:01,654 --> 00:37:03,133
would be mere speculation,
788
00:37:03,177 --> 00:37:05,353
and I'm not gonna speculate.
789
00:37:05,397 --> 00:37:07,312
Male Los Angeles
police are saying little
790
00:37:07,355 --> 00:37:09,836
at this time about possible
progress on solving the murders
791
00:37:09,879 --> 00:37:11,968
of actress Sharon Tate,
and four others.
792
00:37:14,101 --> 00:37:16,538
When Polanski
in his shocked state
793
00:37:16,582 --> 00:37:18,888
arrived back in L.A.,
794
00:37:18,932 --> 00:37:21,848
he saw the police investigation
is going nowhere.
795
00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:26,983
As a result, he started
to undertake some of his own
796
00:37:28,507 --> 00:37:30,248
uh, unofficial detective work.
797
00:37:31,423 --> 00:37:33,294
He suspected everybody.
798
00:37:34,643 --> 00:37:36,906
Roman called my dad
to his bungalow,
799
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:39,344
and Dad came home,
and he said,
800
00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:41,955
he made me write the word
"pig" over and over again.
801
00:37:41,998 --> 00:37:44,305
And Dad never understood
802
00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:47,003
why Roman asked him to do that.
803
00:37:47,047 --> 00:37:49,441
And he had my father's
handwriting analyzed
804
00:37:49,484 --> 00:37:51,747
to see if it matched
the "pig"
805
00:37:51,791 --> 00:37:53,009
that was written on the walls.
806
00:37:54,141 --> 00:37:56,535
I was shocked.
807
00:37:56,578 --> 00:37:58,798
Tommy Thompson, the
entertainment editor of Life,
808
00:37:58,841 --> 00:38:00,887
was a friend of Roman's.
809
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:03,063
And Roman said, I need
a photographer to go up
810
00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:05,674
to the house to photograph
it for clues,
811
00:38:05,718 --> 00:38:08,286
for this psychic,
Peter Hurkos.
812
00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:12,115
He was a psychic
to the stars,
813
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,988
whatever that means.
814
00:38:15,031 --> 00:38:17,164
Clues for the psychic
to then analyze your photos?
815
00:38:17,207 --> 00:38:20,385
- Exactly, look at my photos
and get psychic vibrations,
816
00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:22,256
and find out
who the murderer was.
817
00:38:23,692 --> 00:38:25,346
Male Why were you
called in on this case?
818
00:38:25,390 --> 00:38:28,001
A lot of people are somewhat
skeptical of mystics
819
00:38:28,044 --> 00:38:30,395
and clairvoyants, and psychics.
820
00:38:30,438 --> 00:38:32,875
- I have proved it enough,
821
00:38:32,919 --> 00:38:34,660
and I'll take any test
what scientists may impose.
822
00:38:34,703 --> 00:38:36,401
And I like skeptic people,
I approve it.
823
00:38:36,444 --> 00:38:39,360
I wanna understand
how Roman
824
00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:41,449
can put this trust
in the psychic?
825
00:38:41,493 --> 00:38:43,625
- Because it's Hollywood, man!
826
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:49,065
"Psychic!"
827
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,027
We went up there,
828
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:55,898
and Roman was already there.
829
00:38:55,942 --> 00:38:57,770
And I asked him,
what am I gonna do?
830
00:38:57,813 --> 00:38:59,424
And he told me,
831
00:38:59,467 --> 00:39:01,121
just photograph everything
I'm looking at,
832
00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,297
which I did.
833
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:05,473
I mean, one of the
pictures is iconic.
834
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:08,868
It's of Roman sitting
on a chair
835
00:39:08,911 --> 00:39:11,392
in front of the-the open
door to his house,
836
00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:13,568
with the word "pig"
written in blood
837
00:39:15,004 --> 00:39:16,615
that Julian took.
838
00:39:20,183 --> 00:39:22,229
Here's a psychic
solving the crime.
839
00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:26,407
I don't know what
he's looking for.
840
00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:28,975
The blood was so thick,
it was like Jell-o
841
00:39:29,018 --> 00:39:30,759
in the living room,
842
00:39:30,803 --> 00:39:32,674
and the smell is horrible.
843
00:39:32,718 --> 00:39:34,763
Like a slaughterhouse.
844
00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:37,592
That's what it smelled like.
845
00:39:39,115 --> 00:39:41,814
The psychic was kind
of a con artist.
846
00:39:41,857 --> 00:39:45,295
Julian took Polaroids while
he was doing his shooting.
847
00:39:46,993 --> 00:39:50,257
Hurkos sold the pictures
to one of the tabloids.
848
00:39:52,651 --> 00:39:55,480
The Polaroids,
the psychic took
849
00:39:55,523 --> 00:39:57,917
to sell to the Hollywood
Citizen News.
850
00:39:59,832 --> 00:40:01,877
Another Hollywood move,
what else is he gonna do?
851
00:40:05,054 --> 00:40:06,795
When we were
in the desert running,
852
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:11,060
the girls told me specifically
853
00:40:11,104 --> 00:40:13,541
their part in the murderers.
854
00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:17,763
When Susan was killing Sharon,
855
00:40:19,155 --> 00:40:21,244
or helping kill her,
856
00:40:21,288 --> 00:40:23,986
And Sharon was begging
for the life of her baby,
857
00:40:25,379 --> 00:40:27,425
Susan told me that
she thought about...
858
00:40:28,817 --> 00:40:31,951
cutting the baby out,
and say--rescuing the baby.
859
00:40:33,953 --> 00:40:36,608
What stuck with me even more
than the details,
860
00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:38,871
and the details
were pretty bad,
861
00:40:38,914 --> 00:40:41,613
was the way in which
they told it.
862
00:40:41,656 --> 00:40:43,702
They told it, they were
almost gleeful
863
00:40:43,745 --> 00:40:46,400
about what they had done
for Charlie.
864
00:40:47,619 --> 00:40:49,272
- We wanna take the children
to the desert.
865
00:40:49,316 --> 00:40:51,231
Your children.
866
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:52,580
There's no reason why
your children should die,
867
00:40:52,624 --> 00:40:54,930
they'll go to the-we'll
take 'em to the desert.
868
00:40:54,974 --> 00:40:57,063
If you give 'em to us.
869
00:40:57,106 --> 00:40:58,673
I am not aware
of the family
870
00:40:58,717 --> 00:41:01,937
Talking about "Rosemary's
Baby," Polanski,
871
00:41:01,981 --> 00:41:03,852
but I can see how people
872
00:41:05,201 --> 00:41:07,290
could compare and contrast
873
00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:09,641
"Rosemary's Baby,"
874
00:41:09,684 --> 00:41:11,556
and this woman giving birth
to a child
875
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,472
that was all engineered
by a family
876
00:41:16,212 --> 00:41:19,738
for this baby then to become
the child of the devil.
877
00:41:25,439 --> 00:41:27,354
The only time
he reacted,
878
00:41:27,397 --> 00:41:29,356
when he was looking at pictures
of Sharon in the bedroom,
879
00:41:29,399 --> 00:41:31,532
and he started crying,
880
00:41:31,576 --> 00:41:33,621
that was the only time
I saw him react.
881
00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:39,279
Did he ever tell you
to stop?
882
00:41:39,322 --> 00:41:41,107
- No, but man, I'm telling you,
I felt that.
883
00:41:42,891 --> 00:41:44,676
- You felt like stopping?
884
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,548
- I-I felt very bad
about this whole scene.
885
00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:50,812
I didn't want to be
around there.
886
00:41:50,856 --> 00:41:53,075
I felt like I was a
graverobber, it was awful.
887
00:41:54,468 --> 00:41:56,339
But you know, what do you do?
888
00:41:56,383 --> 00:41:58,428
You-you're working.
889
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,257
And then the uh,
890
00:42:01,301 --> 00:42:02,998
shot of the nightstand
in their bedroom,
891
00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:06,175
and there's this wedding photo
of Sharon and Roman,
892
00:42:06,219 --> 00:42:08,569
and the princess phone
893
00:42:08,613 --> 00:42:10,919
with black LAPD fingerprint
powder all over it.
894
00:42:14,532 --> 00:42:16,969
That one shot just sums up
the whole thing.
895
00:42:22,278 --> 00:42:24,542
People often ask,
896
00:42:24,585 --> 00:42:27,109
how would you describe evil?
897
00:42:27,153 --> 00:42:29,459
And they will always say,
Adolf Hitler.
898
00:42:29,503 --> 00:42:32,158
And they will always say
Charles Manson.
899
00:42:32,201 --> 00:42:34,900
And I think it's fascinating
900
00:42:34,943 --> 00:42:36,684
that Polanski's family were
killed in a concentration camp,
901
00:42:36,728 --> 00:42:38,643
It's a direct result
of Adolf Hitler.
902
00:42:38,686 --> 00:42:40,906
And his wife and friends
were murdered
903
00:42:40,949 --> 00:42:43,169
as a direct result
of Charles Manson.
904
00:42:43,212 --> 00:42:44,866
That's wild.
905
00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:46,607
That-there is something there
that I can't explain.
906
00:42:49,392 --> 00:42:51,351
There were people
out there who believed
907
00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:54,006
that what happened
to Sharon and to Roman
908
00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:57,618
was karmic retribution
for kind of exploiting
909
00:42:57,662 --> 00:42:59,794
the dark side,
with "Rosemary's Baby."
910
00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:02,928
They were actually
implying
911
00:43:02,971 --> 00:43:04,799
that it was the victim's
own bad behavior
912
00:43:04,843 --> 00:43:06,845
that caused their murders.
913
00:43:06,888 --> 00:43:09,021
Jack Nicholson, who was friends
with Sharon and Roman,
914
00:43:09,064 --> 00:43:11,545
said that Sharon had the
unfortunate circumstance
915
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,591
of being murdered twice.
916
00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:15,636
Once by her actual killers,
917
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,638
and the next time
by the press.
918
00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:24,514
Now, Cielo is right
across the way here.
919
00:43:25,690 --> 00:43:28,170
I-I think that's it.
- It's the street?
920
00:43:28,214 --> 00:43:29,955
- I think. I think, yeah.
That's it.
921
00:43:29,998 --> 00:43:32,044
There's a sign here.
Yeah, there, see?
922
00:43:32,087 --> 00:43:33,698
- Okay, that's Cielo.
- Yeah, that's it.
923
00:43:33,741 --> 00:43:35,700
Yeah, all this is new.
924
00:43:35,743 --> 00:43:38,137
Yeah, when I came here,
925
00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:40,269
there was several
police cars here,
926
00:43:40,313 --> 00:43:43,185
and there was a-a telephone
coming--a line man
927
00:43:43,229 --> 00:43:46,014
at the top of that pole
repairing the cut wire.
928
00:43:46,058 --> 00:43:47,494
I still didn't even know
what happened.
929
00:43:52,717 --> 00:43:54,632
You want the overlook
shot here, turn right.
930
00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:59,854
Yeah, there's the-where
the Polanski house was.
931
00:43:59,898 --> 00:44:02,944
It was a tiny little
red shingle place.
932
00:44:02,988 --> 00:44:04,554
Now you got that.
933
00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:08,950
This thing's probably
five times bigger.
934
00:44:08,994 --> 00:44:11,300
This is L.A. excess,
935
00:44:11,344 --> 00:44:13,433
to the nth degree.
936
00:44:19,091 --> 00:44:21,310
At the end of the
filming of "Rosemary's Baby,"
937
00:44:21,354 --> 00:44:23,182
Mia Farrow bought my father
938
00:44:24,662 --> 00:44:27,142
a beautiful humidor
where you keep cigars in.
939
00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:33,061
On the top of the cover
was a 14-karat-gold devil,
940
00:44:33,105 --> 00:44:34,846
with ruby eyes.
941
00:44:34,889 --> 00:44:37,631
And it said,
"To Bill. Love, Mia."
942
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,633
And it ended up in
a storage unit.
943
00:44:42,070 --> 00:44:43,724
And my husband was in the
storage unit and he called me,
944
00:44:43,768 --> 00:44:45,683
and he said,
what do I do with that?
945
00:44:45,726 --> 00:44:47,641
I'm like, you do nothing.
946
00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,469
You just leave it
in that storage unit.
947
00:44:49,512 --> 00:44:51,732
I didn't want anything
to do with it,
948
00:44:51,776 --> 00:44:53,778
because it represented
bad luck.
949
00:44:53,821 --> 00:44:55,910
And even though we might not
completely believe in it,
950
00:44:55,954 --> 00:44:57,782
we were too afraid not to.
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