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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,885 --> 00:00:12,971 Hitler spent so much of his life performing. 2 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:19,811 He developed this propensity to dwell in a, a fantasy world. 3 00:00:21,146 --> 00:00:25,651 I'm convinced that lurking in Hitler's psyche was a belief 4 00:00:25,651 --> 00:00:28,403 that he was actually living out some kind of 5 00:00:28,403 --> 00:00:31,740 apocalyptic Wagnerian opera. 6 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:36,703 Germany, as it is being bombed and occupied, 7 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:40,582 is a stage, a stage in a gigantic opera, 8 00:00:40,582 --> 00:00:45,254 in which he is about to become the martyred, and fallen, 9 00:00:45,254 --> 00:00:48,006 and betrayed savior of Germany. 10 00:00:48,632 --> 00:00:52,219 And at the end, when the catastrophe was looming, 11 00:00:52,219 --> 00:00:56,682 this ability to dwell in a world of make-believe, 12 00:00:56,682 --> 00:00:59,810 and fantasy, took over in some kind of sense. 13 00:01:30,048 --> 00:01:32,092 In some sense, it is absolutely bizarre to think 14 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:36,013 that this sort of aimless, drifting postcard-painter of 15 00:01:36,013 --> 00:01:38,348 the Vienna years could have ended up; 16 00:01:38,348 --> 00:01:40,726 A; the conqueror of 1940, 17 00:01:40,726 --> 00:01:43,937 and then, B; the man in the bunker in 1945. 18 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:46,315 But in another sense, the personality actually 19 00:01:46,315 --> 00:01:48,650 seems to be rather consistent. 20 00:01:48,650 --> 00:01:53,363 He's both disengaged and fueled by delusions of grandeur, 21 00:01:53,363 --> 00:01:56,116 that's quite consistent all the way through his life. 22 00:01:56,408 --> 00:01:58,618 He was an artist of evil. 23 00:01:58,618 --> 00:02:02,456 He had created a kind of evil 24 00:02:02,456 --> 00:02:05,042 that the world had never seen before. 25 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:08,420 It wasn't that he'd done pathetic little landscapes. 26 00:02:08,420 --> 00:02:12,758 It was that he reshaped the entire landscape of 27 00:02:12,758 --> 00:02:14,676 half the world. 28 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:22,684 . 29 00:02:45,499 --> 00:02:47,209 The war hadn't ended. 30 00:02:47,209 --> 00:02:52,130 This was January 1945, Bergen-Belsen, 31 00:02:52,130 --> 00:02:55,634 where I was only 15 years old. 32 00:02:55,634 --> 00:03:00,180 The conditions were truly... 33 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:02,182 Inhuman. 34 00:03:02,516 --> 00:03:06,937 Nobody could survive in the long run on one meal a day, 35 00:03:06,937 --> 00:03:09,272 which consisted of one piece of bread, 36 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:12,484 and turnips boiled in water. 37 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:17,989 There were epidemics; cholera, pneumonia, dysentery. 38 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:22,536 Every night I went to sleep hoping I would wake up 39 00:03:22,536 --> 00:03:25,705 the next morning, and when I did, I was surrounded 40 00:03:25,705 --> 00:03:29,709 by people who had died during the night. 41 00:03:30,961 --> 00:03:35,382 Bergen-Belsen is often referred to as a slow-death camp. 42 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:37,467 It didn't have gas chambers, 43 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:42,222 but the number of people survived was very small. 44 00:03:43,432 --> 00:03:46,059 Hitler wanted to murder all Jews, 45 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:47,477 and get rid of them. 46 00:03:47,477 --> 00:03:50,689 He was the epitome of hatred, to me. 47 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:00,365 GÖRTEMAKER: From the beginning of the war, 48 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:04,161 Hitler declared victory or collapse, 49 00:04:04,161 --> 00:04:05,954 all or nothing. 50 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:09,124 The Allied powers were advancing. 51 00:04:09,124 --> 00:04:14,546 The people around Hitler were scared to death, 52 00:04:15,505 --> 00:04:18,675 and they knew they needed a victory. 53 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:22,637 In the winter of 1944, and into 1945, 54 00:04:22,637 --> 00:04:28,185 Hitler attempts, in the West, a last-ditch counter-attack 55 00:04:28,185 --> 00:04:30,353 into American-occupied Belgium, 56 00:04:30,353 --> 00:04:33,148 which produces the famous Battle of the Bulge. 57 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:35,817 The latest dispatches from 58 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:37,569 Supreme Headquarters in Paris say that Nazi armor has 59 00:04:37,569 --> 00:04:41,114 advanced more than 20 miles int Belgium and Luxembourg on this, 60 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:44,493 the fourth day of the greatest German counter-offensive of this war. 61 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:46,453 The troops we're now meeting are the best attack troops 62 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:48,205 the Germans have ever had. 63 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,437 But by the middle of January, 64 00:05:12,437 --> 00:05:15,607 the American army is pushing the German army 65 00:05:15,607 --> 00:05:17,692 out of the Low Countries. 66 00:05:17,692 --> 00:05:19,486 The German salient is withering 67 00:05:19,486 --> 00:05:21,112 like a winter's leaf. 68 00:05:21,112 --> 00:05:24,783 In the air, at least 124 German planes were shot down today. 69 00:05:24,783 --> 00:05:27,202 Ultimately, the Battle of the Bulge is 70 00:05:27,202 --> 00:05:29,579 a calamitous defeat for Germany, 71 00:05:29,579 --> 00:05:32,916 and sets the stage for the big American and 72 00:05:32,916 --> 00:05:36,336 British push into Germany itself. 73 00:06:02,195 --> 00:06:03,572 In every city and town, 74 00:06:03,572 --> 00:06:06,533 the Nazis fight back with furious desperation. 75 00:06:08,410 --> 00:06:10,036 Nazi rear-guard action is fanatical 76 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:12,539 as they try to stem the red tide. 77 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:17,794 GÖRTEMAKER: When Hitler returned from the Western Front 78 00:06:17,794 --> 00:06:22,299 to Berlin, the whole situation in Germany was desperate, 79 00:06:22,299 --> 00:06:25,635 and he himself was depressed. 80 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:30,223 He increasingly suspected the German army of defeatism, 81 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:33,518 and he was absolutely adamant that the war had to 82 00:06:33,518 --> 00:06:35,395 be continued at any cost. 83 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:51,202 At some level, he must have understood that 84 00:06:51,202 --> 00:06:55,915 the war was over, and that Germany was facing catastrophe. 85 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:59,711 But Hitler had no mercy, or no pity, no sympathy 86 00:06:59,711 --> 00:07:04,215 for anyone who did not follow him, basically, 87 00:07:04,215 --> 00:07:05,634 to the end. 88 00:07:22,859 --> 00:07:25,195 The war' most sustained aerial offensive 89 00:07:25,195 --> 00:07:27,530 battling Berlin, day and night blasting 90 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:30,659 Nazi oil plants, industry, transportation. 91 00:07:33,828 --> 00:07:38,083 GÖRTEMAKER: When a big air raid destroyed almost 92 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:40,627 all of the center of Berlin, 93 00:07:40,627 --> 00:07:44,923 Hitler moved into the bunker permanently. 94 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:49,636 The bunker complex was built beneath 95 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:53,348 the Reich Chancellery building in central Berlin, 96 00:07:53,348 --> 00:07:55,392 designed by Albert Speer, 97 00:07:55,392 --> 00:07:57,477 Adolf Hitler's favorite architect, 98 00:07:57,477 --> 00:08:00,230 and now the Armaments Minister. 99 00:08:00,230 --> 00:08:03,233 GÖRTEMAKER: The last headquarter of Hitler 100 00:08:03,233 --> 00:08:05,235 was a huge complex, 101 00:08:05,235 --> 00:08:09,322 28 feet beneath the Reich Chancellery. 102 00:08:09,989 --> 00:08:11,741 And it contained actually 103 00:08:11,741 --> 00:08:13,034 two bunkers, 104 00:08:13,034 --> 00:08:15,870 with 36 rooms. 105 00:08:16,913 --> 00:08:18,623 Even in the bunker, 106 00:08:18,623 --> 00:08:20,792 Hitler couldn't be alone, 107 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:22,085 so he lived there, 108 00:08:22,085 --> 00:08:23,712 with Eva Braun, 109 00:08:23,712 --> 00:08:25,797 with his physician, 110 00:08:25,797 --> 00:08:27,340 with his secretaries, 111 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:28,633 his cook, 112 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:30,552 and his bodyguards. 113 00:08:30,552 --> 00:08:31,761 And this was 114 00:08:31,761 --> 00:08:35,598 where Hitler spent the last weeks of his life. 115 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:41,229 As the war turned, and loss was impending, 116 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:43,523 as his health deteriorated, 117 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,984 I suspect that Hitler looked 118 00:08:45,984 --> 00:08:50,405 back fondly to the Austria of his youth. 119 00:08:51,448 --> 00:08:55,535 Over the years, Hitler had spent a lot of time re-imagining 120 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:59,789 the design of Berlin with Albert Speer, and then Linz, 121 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:04,085 where Hitler had spent some years as a young person. 122 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:08,548 GÖRTEMAKER: Hitler envisaged this new residence, 123 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:11,384 where he could retire together with Eva Braun, 124 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:14,512 this was their plan they cling to until the end. 125 00:09:15,138 --> 00:09:19,684 There exist pictures taken by Walter Frentz, 126 00:09:19,684 --> 00:09:21,853 one of Hitler's photographers, 127 00:09:21,853 --> 00:09:25,565 on February 8th, 1945, 128 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:29,611 and you see Hitler greatly aged, 129 00:09:29,611 --> 00:09:34,157 and kind of out of the real world when he looked at this model. 130 00:09:35,283 --> 00:09:40,914 We have to understand this was an escape fantasy; 131 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:45,502 he tried to flee the world he couldn't control any more. 132 00:09:57,722 --> 00:09:59,516 Overhead the greatest air offensive of 133 00:09:59,516 --> 00:10:01,601 the war is in full blast. 134 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,692 On February 13th, 1945, the British Royal Air Force 135 00:10:09,692 --> 00:10:14,906 destroyed most of the city of Dresden in eastern Germany. 136 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:16,533 With terrible precision, 137 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:18,952 masses of high explosive go down. 138 00:10:18,952 --> 00:10:21,704 And some people who tried to walk along, 139 00:10:21,704 --> 00:10:24,666 they got pulled in by the fire. 140 00:10:24,666 --> 00:10:29,045 There is such a draft in a firestorm like that. 141 00:10:30,505 --> 00:10:32,215 The city was of course in flames, 142 00:10:32,215 --> 00:10:34,676 but after three days we had to go in and 143 00:10:34,676 --> 00:10:38,930 try to find the people, and take them out of the ruins. 144 00:10:39,264 --> 00:10:42,475 There was no time to dig individual graves, 145 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:44,561 we had to do big, mass graves. 146 00:10:55,321 --> 00:11:00,076 About five to 600,000 Germans died in these bombings. 147 00:11:00,076 --> 00:11:04,455 Hitler is unable to empathize in any way with 148 00:11:04,455 --> 00:11:06,541 the people who are being bombed, and in that sense, 149 00:11:06,541 --> 00:11:09,460 the bombing certainly has no effect on him whatsoever. 150 00:11:30,899 --> 00:11:32,650 In the air war, German submarine yards 151 00:11:32,650 --> 00:11:35,320 at Bremen, Hamburg and Kiel, and oil refineries, 152 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,739 were hit today by 2,000 planes of 153 00:11:37,739 --> 00:11:39,782 the American Eighth Air Force. 154 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:41,701 We gather in several thousand Germans, and with their killed 155 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:44,287 and wounded, it makes a daily total of losses 156 00:11:44,287 --> 00:11:47,040 which is just too high for any army to suffer 157 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,000 without being very seriously weakened. 158 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,335 The Allies continue to drop 159 00:11:50,335 --> 00:11:52,795 tons of destruction on German industry, communications 160 00:11:52,795 --> 00:11:54,631 and German armies. 161 00:11:54,631 --> 00:11:56,674 We counted 20,000 prisoners yesterday. 162 00:11:56,674 --> 00:11:59,093 The Germans are acting like a tired, 163 00:11:59,093 --> 00:12:02,263 confused army which knows it is beaten. 164 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:13,149 GÖRTEMAKER: The Nero Decree is the reaction of Hitler to 165 00:12:13,149 --> 00:12:15,109 a desperate situation. 166 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:31,209 Hitler says, "Wherever we are evacuating territory, 167 00:12:31,209 --> 00:12:33,002 it has to be destroyed." 168 00:12:33,002 --> 00:12:36,881 Now, the Germans have done it over and again, scorched Earth. 169 00:12:36,881 --> 00:12:40,468 They destroyed the Soviet Union as they were retreating from it, 170 00:12:40,468 --> 00:12:43,554 but now, Hitler is saying do that in West German, 171 00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:47,183 and that would mean utter famine and destruction 172 00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:51,270 to millions of Germans, and Albert Speer refuses to do it. 173 00:13:11,374 --> 00:13:14,294 Most of the information we have about what was going on 174 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:18,298 in the bunker came from those who survived it. 175 00:13:18,756 --> 00:13:22,760 What you see with Speer after the war is him attempting 176 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,806 to take all of the credit for the destruction not taking place. 177 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:30,977 GÖRTEMAKER: The Nero Decree wasn't executed, 178 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:33,896 not only because of Speer, 179 00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:38,318 but because the German people had to save their lives. 180 00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:40,862 Many of them had no shelter, 181 00:13:40,862 --> 00:13:42,613 they had no food. 182 00:13:42,613 --> 00:13:44,866 They tried to protect the children. 183 00:13:44,866 --> 00:13:51,080 But Speer later constructed a story that during the last days, 184 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,711 he didn't obey, and was kind of an opponent of Hitler. 185 00:13:57,378 --> 00:13:59,130 He was an exceptional liar. 186 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:00,882 He's trying to save his reputation, 187 00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:03,301 he's trying to save his skin. 188 00:14:03,301 --> 00:14:05,636 But Albert Speer adored Hitler, 189 00:14:05,636 --> 00:14:08,056 and was devoted to him, 190 00:14:08,056 --> 00:14:10,099 and was as close to him personally as 191 00:14:10,099 --> 00:14:12,268 I think anybody could be. 192 00:14:16,898 --> 00:14:18,191 The mass of Germans are 193 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:19,942 apathetic and stunned. 194 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:23,029 There is no longer any mass fanaticism or will to die. 195 00:14:23,029 --> 00:14:25,907 Most Germans are stupidly awaiting the end. 196 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:32,080 GÖRTEMAKER: We don't know what Hitler really believed in this 197 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,502 desperate time, but we know that he clinged to this notion 198 00:14:37,502 --> 00:14:41,714 that there could be a miracle victory, 199 00:14:41,714 --> 00:14:45,802 and he was supported in this delusion by 200 00:14:45,802 --> 00:14:47,804 his girlfriend, Eva Braun. 201 00:14:47,804 --> 00:14:50,765 There was nobody else near and as close to him 202 00:14:50,765 --> 00:14:52,725 like Eva Braun. 203 00:14:52,725 --> 00:14:56,896 She loved him, really, and she came, surprisingly, 204 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,773 to Berlin, and when she arrived, 205 00:14:58,773 --> 00:15:02,360 Hitler tried to seem angry, but he wasn't successful. 206 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,696 He was obviously so happy that she was there that 207 00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:08,449 nobody tried to, to send her back. 208 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:12,829 GÖRTEMAKER: Eva Braun was very calm during her time in 209 00:15:12,829 --> 00:15:17,333 the bunker, but Hitler was constantly on edge. 210 00:15:17,333 --> 00:15:22,547 That he was betrayed, and that he was the only one who tried to 211 00:15:22,547 --> 00:15:26,509 build a new Germany, but was hindered by others. 212 00:15:35,476 --> 00:15:37,270 I remember it very well. 213 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,355 I was one of the first to deal with war crimes 214 00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:41,315 in the American army. 215 00:15:41,315 --> 00:15:45,194 A report would come into Headquarters that there's a camp somewhere, 216 00:15:45,194 --> 00:15:47,780 and there are people coming out of that camp. 217 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:49,407 It looks like they're skeletons, 218 00:15:49,407 --> 00:15:51,909 they're in rags, get over there. 219 00:15:51,909 --> 00:15:54,537 And I'd get into my Jeep and race over there as fast as 220 00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:56,706 I could and begin to collect evidence. 221 00:15:56,706 --> 00:15:59,584 The first such camp was Buchenwald. 222 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:07,091 150 people died the day we came, of malnutrition, 223 00:16:07,091 --> 00:16:10,803 tuberculosis, typhus, et cetera. 224 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,348 I had peered into Hell. 225 00:16:14,348 --> 00:16:18,811 My feeling was this is not real. 226 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:24,483 If I had not been able to imagine that this is artificial, 227 00:16:24,483 --> 00:16:28,196 I don't think I would have been able to cope with it. 228 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:34,952 I think that it takes a while to digest 229 00:16:34,952 --> 00:16:37,955 what it is that they're seeing. 230 00:16:37,955 --> 00:16:40,208 The issue of knowledge is not necessarily 231 00:16:40,208 --> 00:16:44,128 do you know the fact, but can you digest it, 232 00:16:44,128 --> 00:16:47,173 can you actually understand what this means? 233 00:16:47,173 --> 00:16:48,758 There are two ovens, 234 00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:51,344 each with a capacity for six persons. 235 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,265 There are about 70 persons represented in this pile. 236 00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:00,895 How do we grasp such an undertaking, 237 00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:05,733 such an industrial effort to kill hundreds of thousands, 238 00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:08,027 millions of people? 239 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:10,029 And I think that until today, 240 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:13,032 we are still faced with that question. 241 00:17:23,251 --> 00:17:24,794 We interrupt this program to 242 00:17:24,794 --> 00:17:27,672 bring you a special news bulletin from CBS World News. 243 00:17:27,672 --> 00:17:30,174 A press association has just announced that 244 00:17:30,174 --> 00:17:32,343 President Roosevelt is dead. 245 00:17:58,869 --> 00:18:03,499 GÖRTEMAKER: Hitler told his circle, "This is a sign." 246 00:18:03,499 --> 00:18:06,836 He compared the death of Roosevelt to 247 00:18:06,836 --> 00:18:10,339 the death of Catherine the Second of Russia, 248 00:18:10,339 --> 00:18:15,261 because after her death, Frederick the Great won the war. 249 00:18:16,721 --> 00:18:20,391 It's a clear measure of Hitler's delusional state that 250 00:18:20,391 --> 00:18:23,978 he has a brief moment of euphoria, 251 00:18:23,978 --> 00:18:27,398 because it came in a moment when there was no good news of 252 00:18:27,398 --> 00:18:32,820 any kind; it was nothing but disaster and impending doom. 253 00:18:35,323 --> 00:18:36,532 The American Ninth Army is no more 254 00:18:36,532 --> 00:18:38,784 than 45 miles from Berlin at this hour, 255 00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:41,454 leading well behind the hurdle that failed to serve 256 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,581 the Germans; the Elba River. 257 00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:46,208 Russian troops are reported within 18 miles of Berlin by 258 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:48,878 German account, where Germany's remaining forces plan 259 00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:51,464 to carry on the war to the bitter end. 260 00:18:54,675 --> 00:18:56,677 On a practical level, Hitler probably understood that 261 00:18:56,677 --> 00:18:58,804 there was no way out, that whatever happened, 262 00:18:58,804 --> 00:19:02,224 no-one was gonna let him live much past the end of the war. 263 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:05,895 But there's also his kind of Wagnerian histrionic side, 264 00:19:05,895 --> 00:19:07,355 that we had seen, you know, 265 00:19:07,355 --> 00:19:09,023 as early as the, the Beer Hall Putsch 266 00:19:09,023 --> 00:19:11,817 when he threatened to kill himself if it failed, and probably, 267 00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:13,944 Hitler had something like this in his mind as well, 268 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:15,488 that if he went down heroically, 269 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:18,115 Germany and the Nazi movement might revive again, 270 00:19:18,115 --> 00:19:20,534 drawing on his heroism. 271 00:19:21,035 --> 00:19:22,953 The German High Command communiqué 272 00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:24,955 opened this afternoon with these words; 273 00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:28,501 "In the heart of Berlin, the gallant garrison closely 274 00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:31,879 gathered around the Führer is defending itself in 275 00:19:31,879 --> 00:19:35,591 a reduced space against the superior Bolsheviks." 276 00:19:35,591 --> 00:19:37,426 That's the first time during the crisis, 277 00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:39,470 and probably the first time ever, 278 00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:42,890 that the Nazis have put Hitler into one of his own communiqués 279 00:19:50,064 --> 00:19:52,066 When Josef and Magda Goebbels 280 00:19:52,066 --> 00:19:54,568 and their six children move into the bunker, 281 00:19:54,568 --> 00:20:00,157 it is an utterly bizarre and macabre scene. 282 00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:05,287 Their intention is to end their lives with Hitler in the bunker, 283 00:20:05,287 --> 00:20:07,331 and they will take their children with them. 284 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:40,698 Everybody shook his hand and wished him the best, 285 00:20:40,698 --> 00:20:43,409 and it was all very depressed. 286 00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:46,203 It was not a, a happy birthday. 287 00:20:46,203 --> 00:20:48,539 There really is nothing to celebrate. 288 00:20:48,539 --> 00:20:50,291 But right after his birthday, 289 00:20:50,291 --> 00:20:52,585 Hitler makes his last public appearance. 290 00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:55,963 He comes out of the bunker to greet 291 00:20:55,963 --> 00:20:59,008 a small contingent of Hitler Youth. 292 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:29,705 GÖRTEMAKER: It's significant because it shows 293 00:21:29,705 --> 00:21:35,628 that at the end, they tried to mobilize even children. 294 00:21:36,253 --> 00:21:41,175 This was the last army, the children of Berlin. 295 00:21:42,384 --> 00:21:44,053 And he comes to them, 296 00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:47,806 and he pinches one of their cheeks, and he sends them to die. 297 00:22:10,371 --> 00:22:12,832 GÖRTEMAKER: It's a desperate image, 298 00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:18,379 and it shows how ruthless this Nazi regime was, 299 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:22,842 that they would have let everyone die before 300 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:24,969 they'd dare to quit. 301 00:22:59,336 --> 00:23:00,629 In the last week of his life, 302 00:23:00,629 --> 00:23:03,841 Adolf Hitler received a number of... 303 00:23:03,841 --> 00:23:05,175 Shocks. 304 00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:07,511 One came from Hermann Goering. 305 00:23:07,511 --> 00:23:10,598 GÖRTEMAKER: In April 1945, Goering, 306 00:23:10,598 --> 00:23:13,684 one of the most powerful men in the Reich, 307 00:23:13,684 --> 00:23:17,104 sent a telegram to Hitler... 308 00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:23,277 That he could be in charge if Hitler wasn't able 309 00:23:23,277 --> 00:23:25,946 anymore to lead. 310 00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:28,449 This made Hitler furious. 311 00:23:28,991 --> 00:23:32,453 And Hitler threatened to strip Goering of his offices and 312 00:23:32,453 --> 00:23:34,997 throw him out of the party unless he changed his mind, 313 00:23:34,997 --> 00:23:36,582 which he did. 314 00:23:36,582 --> 00:23:40,044 Then came the news that loyal Heinrich Himmler, 315 00:23:40,044 --> 00:23:43,547 the head of the SS, had been attempting some kind of 316 00:23:43,547 --> 00:23:45,758 separate peace deal with the West. 317 00:23:47,509 --> 00:23:52,473 Hitler considered this clearly to be an astounding act of betrayal, 318 00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:55,476 and he strips Himmler of his offices, of his titles. 319 00:24:16,372 --> 00:24:17,456 With the Red Army closing 320 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:19,541 in on the Chancellery itself, 321 00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:21,377 there's no doubt 322 00:24:21,377 --> 00:24:22,586 in Hitler's mind that 323 00:24:22,586 --> 00:24:26,090 he is going to take his own life. 324 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:30,010 He doesn't want to be captured by the Soviets and paraded around, 325 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:34,306 and he learns about the fate of Benito Mussolini. 326 00:24:34,848 --> 00:24:36,266 Under the roster of fascism, 327 00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:38,769 the betrayers of Italy now hang by the heel. 328 00:24:38,769 --> 00:24:41,772 Heads down in ghoulish caricature of life, 329 00:24:41,772 --> 00:24:44,149 Il Duce gives his last salute. 330 00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:03,877 Hitler saw no other way out than to commit suicide himself. 331 00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:08,674 Eva Braun asked for the most painless method, 332 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,677 and Hitler said, "That would be cyanide. 333 00:25:11,677 --> 00:25:14,054 You don't feel anything." 334 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:17,599 GÖRTEMAKER: Hitler was in a state of hysteria, 335 00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:21,895 and everywhere, he imagined traitors. 336 00:25:21,895 --> 00:25:25,107 He remembered suddenly that the poison came from 337 00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:30,028 one of Himmler's staff, and Himmler had tried to betray him. 338 00:25:30,738 --> 00:25:33,741 GÖRTEMAKER: To make sure the poison would work, 339 00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:39,204 Hitler gave Blondi, his beloved dog, the poison first. 340 00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:47,087 It's clear that the end is come, 341 00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:49,548 and so he wants to leave a legacy. 342 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,842 He wants to leave a testament. 343 00:25:52,134 --> 00:25:54,887 I must confess, that I was very excited, 344 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:59,933 because I would be the first and the only one who knows 345 00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:03,103 why the war had come to this end. 346 00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:06,774 I thought, "Now comes the moment of the truth." 347 00:26:06,774 --> 00:26:12,488 And I was heart-pumping when I wrote down what Hitler said. 348 00:26:13,947 --> 00:26:16,366 But he used nothing new. 349 00:26:16,366 --> 00:26:20,954 He repeated his accusations to the enemy and 350 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,874 to the Jewish capitalistic system. 351 00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,294 That testament really tells you something that 352 00:26:27,294 --> 00:26:29,213 is fundamental to the man, 353 00:26:29,213 --> 00:26:31,673 and that is fundamental to his world view, 354 00:26:31,673 --> 00:26:35,385 because after all the destruction that he's wrought, 355 00:26:35,385 --> 00:26:39,431 he believes that the job is not yet done, 356 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:42,392 and the job is to destroy the Jewish race. 357 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:47,731 He has changed the course of history, 358 00:26:47,731 --> 00:26:49,650 and yet he's not changed at all. 359 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:52,277 He's dogmatic in that sense to the core. 360 00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:57,449 And what do you recall of the night 361 00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:59,535 when Hitler married Eva Braun? 362 00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:20,889 GÖRTEMAKER: The whole wedding ceremony was unreal. 363 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:25,018 They pretended as if it was normal, 364 00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:30,649 and after the ceremony they drank champagne, 365 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:33,110 and if we believe Traudl Junge, 366 00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:38,323 Eva Braun was proud to be finally Hitler's wife, 367 00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:40,742 because she told others, 368 00:27:40,742 --> 00:27:43,203 "Now you can say, 369 00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:45,497 'Frau Hitler,' to me." 370 00:28:07,144 --> 00:28:11,773 GÖRTEMAKER: Hitler shot himself, and Eva Braun took poison. 371 00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:15,485 It became clear later that Hitler, too, 372 00:28:15,485 --> 00:28:19,907 had first taken poison, and then shot himself. 373 00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:24,161 Hitler had given very explicit verbal and 374 00:28:24,161 --> 00:28:29,416 written instructions that his and Eva Hitler's remains were to 375 00:28:29,416 --> 00:28:32,586 be burned beyond recognition. 376 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:35,756 Their bodies are wrapped in blankets, 377 00:28:35,756 --> 00:28:37,925 and they're taken outdoors. 378 00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:43,013 The courtyard is being shelled as all of this is going on. 379 00:28:44,181 --> 00:28:47,434 And the corpses are placed in shallow graves, 380 00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:51,438 they are doused with petrol, and then they are burned. 381 00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,461 This is London Calling. 382 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:18,632 The German radio has just announced that Hitler is dead. 383 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:25,430 We knew Hitler had a hideout in Berchtesgaden, 384 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:27,808 on top of a mountain. 385 00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:31,520 So I get into my Jeep, I went up to the top. 386 00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:35,148 Everything was a big mess. 387 00:29:35,148 --> 00:29:37,901 I knew we were gonna have war crimes trials. 388 00:29:37,901 --> 00:29:40,821 My objective was to find the evidence, 389 00:29:40,821 --> 00:29:42,155 'cause you need two things; 390 00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:45,075 you need the criminal, and you need the evidence. 391 00:29:45,534 --> 00:29:48,495 There wasn't a heck of a lot of evidence I could use from 392 00:29:48,495 --> 00:29:52,582 the Berchtesgaden hideout, so I headed for Berlin. 393 00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:55,335 The National Broadcasting Company 394 00:29:55,335 --> 00:29:58,588 delays the start of all its programs to bring you a special bulletin. 395 00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:01,425 Germany has surrendered unconditionally to the Allies, 396 00:30:01,425 --> 00:30:03,260 no strings attached. 397 00:30:06,555 --> 00:30:09,391 Hitler and those who supported him had taken Germany 398 00:30:09,391 --> 00:30:13,311 into the most destructive war in human history. 399 00:30:13,562 --> 00:30:18,692 They were responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people, 400 00:30:18,692 --> 00:30:22,946 and for the attempted genocide of the Jewish people in Europe. 401 00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:26,074 The entire continent was a pile of rubble. 402 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:37,753 I thought, here's a case we cannot 403 00:30:37,753 --> 00:30:39,963 possibly do justice. 404 00:30:39,963 --> 00:30:41,298 Hitler was already dead; 405 00:30:41,298 --> 00:30:43,341 I knew he was dead, but he was not alone. 406 00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:46,678 Here was his followers, the whole Nazi movement. 407 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,472 One day, one of my researchers said, 408 00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:50,140 "Look what I found! 409 00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:53,310 Situation reports from the Eastern Front. 410 00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:57,814 Their assignment was to eliminate all Jewish men, 411 00:30:57,814 --> 00:30:59,775 women and children." 412 00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:01,318 I took a little adding machine, 413 00:31:01,318 --> 00:31:03,695 and I added them up, and I had a million people, 414 00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:05,489 over a million. 415 00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:17,084 I have defendants, each one beyond any shadow of a doubt, 416 00:31:17,084 --> 00:31:21,505 was an accomplice and a perpetrator of mass murder. 417 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:25,050 I said, "To balance the scales of justice, 418 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:27,385 I'd have to cut them into million parts and 419 00:31:27,385 --> 00:31:29,471 feed them to the dogs." 420 00:31:29,471 --> 00:31:32,182 But vengeance is not our role. 421 00:31:32,182 --> 00:31:35,811 Because war is horrible; vengeance was even worse. 422 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:41,983 Here under the vigilant eyes of 423 00:31:41,983 --> 00:31:45,570 a live military police, the 20 most important surviving member 424 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,948 of the Hitler gang go on trial. 425 00:31:47,948 --> 00:31:50,700 High representatives of France, Britain, America 426 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:52,744 and Russia form the tribunal. 427 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:55,122 They will judge the ringleaders of a conspiracy 428 00:31:55,122 --> 00:31:57,165 that brought war to all the world. 429 00:31:57,165 --> 00:32:00,877 Hitler is obviously the leading, uh, missing guest 430 00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:02,170 at the party, if you want. 431 00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:03,755 There are other very senior Nazis 432 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:07,217 who've committed suicide, Goebbels, Himmler, and others, 433 00:32:07,217 --> 00:32:10,929 but Hitler was the one whom everybody talks about. 434 00:32:11,221 --> 00:32:14,099 The four charges for the Nuremberg defendants were; 435 00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:16,810 war crimes; crimes against humanity; 436 00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:19,646 digressive war; and conspiracy. 437 00:32:20,355 --> 00:32:23,150 People often say, "What happened to genocide?" 438 00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:26,319 Genocide was listed as a kind of war crime, 439 00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:30,407 not as a crime in itself and not as a crime against humanity. 440 00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:43,545 The rounds which we seek to condemn and 441 00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:46,298 punish have been so calculated, 442 00:32:46,298 --> 00:32:48,842 so malignant, and so devastating 443 00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:52,762 that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, 444 00:32:52,762 --> 00:32:56,099 because it cannot survive 445 00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:58,185 their being repeated. 446 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:02,022 The first trial has two dozen defendants. 447 00:33:02,022 --> 00:33:03,773 Rudolf Hess was a prominent defendant. 448 00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:05,650 A number of, of senior generals, 449 00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:06,985 Keitel and Jodl, 450 00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:10,238 Admiral Raeder and Admiral Doenitz, Rosenberg, 451 00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:12,157 Albert Speer, and Balder von Shirach and 452 00:33:12,157 --> 00:33:14,951 others who had been leaders of the Nazi regime. 453 00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:16,661 One commits suicide on the eve of trial, 454 00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:19,706 one's declared non-compos, so it's 22 defendants. 455 00:33:19,706 --> 00:33:21,208 But defendant number one 456 00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:23,668 was Herman Goering, Hitler's number two. 457 00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,504 Hermann Wilhelm Goering. 458 00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:41,811 I informed the court that defendants were 459 00:33:41,811 --> 00:33:45,190 not entitled to make a statement. 460 00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:48,318 You must plead guilty, or not guilty. 461 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,663 All the defendants at Nuremberg wanted to get in 462 00:34:41,663 --> 00:34:45,333 the fact that in effect, they were following superior orders. 463 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:47,252 When they spoke of Hitler's charismatic, 464 00:34:47,252 --> 00:34:50,255 spellbinding powers, it was always to their advantage to 465 00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:53,383 say so, even Albert Speer, who's the only defendant 466 00:34:53,383 --> 00:34:56,720 who shows what might be taken as remorse. 467 00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:17,073 But in the end, Speer doesn't talk about his own guilt. 468 00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:20,535 He talks about Hitler, and how he served Hitler, 469 00:35:20,535 --> 00:35:23,580 but not really about his own criminality. 470 00:35:24,914 --> 00:35:26,499 In the afternoon, by order of 471 00:35:26,499 --> 00:35:29,085 the tribunal, no cameramen were allowed to be present 472 00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:31,630 when the guilty men received their sentences. 473 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,507 Hermann Wilhelm Goering, 474 00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:37,427 the International Military Tribunal 475 00:35:37,427 --> 00:35:40,764 sentences you to death by hanging. 476 00:35:40,764 --> 00:35:43,892 Rudolf Hess, imprisonment for life. 477 00:35:43,892 --> 00:35:46,686 Albert Speer, 20 years in prison. 478 00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:49,981 Joachim von Ribbentrop, death by hanging. 479 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:53,735 18 people are convicted, 12 are sentenced to death. 480 00:35:53,735 --> 00:35:55,987 Three were found not guilty. 481 00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:58,198 Hermann Goering, as they say, 482 00:35:58,198 --> 00:36:00,909 he cheats the hangman by committing suicide 483 00:36:00,909 --> 00:36:04,371 shortly before he was scheduled to be executed. 484 00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:06,831 Soon, the guilty men will 485 00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:09,501 receive their just reward but, behind them, 486 00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:11,169 they leave a legacy of sorrow 487 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,339 and suffering that 1,000 years will never wipe out 488 00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:17,592 In this momentous trial now ended, 489 00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:20,095 the world itself has been the judge. 490 00:36:26,643 --> 00:36:28,019 John Toland, perhaps 491 00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,646 no-one on the face of the Earth 492 00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:33,316 knows more about Adolf Hitler than you do at this moment. 493 00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:35,026 I think I've interviewed more people that 494 00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:38,279 were close to Hitler, and they all revealed themselves because 495 00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:40,698 I didn't present myself as an adversary, 496 00:36:40,698 --> 00:36:42,867 only I asked, "What happened?" 497 00:36:53,628 --> 00:36:57,257 My dad definitely understood that history is 498 00:36:57,257 --> 00:37:01,594 a living creature, and that we perceive it through 499 00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:04,264 whatever current lens, um, 500 00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:05,724 is available. 501 00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:09,269 The tapes themselves had a lot of value, 502 00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:12,856 and needed to be preserved, in that it would be important for 503 00:37:12,856 --> 00:37:16,317 future generations to have the ability to go back, 504 00:37:16,317 --> 00:37:20,029 to hear the voices, and take from it what they could. 505 00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:31,332 The story of Hitler and the Germans is not really 506 00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:34,502 a story fundamentally about this one person, 507 00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:36,421 or this one country. 508 00:37:36,421 --> 00:37:37,964 It's a story about human beings, 509 00:37:37,964 --> 00:37:40,216 and what human beings are capable of. 510 00:37:40,216 --> 00:37:43,344 It's a conversation that happens not only about the past, 511 00:37:43,344 --> 00:37:46,556 but also a conversation that happens about our present, 512 00:37:46,556 --> 00:37:49,100 and our future, something not only to be understood, 513 00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:50,935 but to be dealt with. 514 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:53,646 Germans like long, compound words, 515 00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:56,566 and one of them is, "Vergangenheitsaufarbeitung." 516 00:37:57,484 --> 00:38:02,697 It's a continued confrontation with the ways 517 00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:07,994 in which the crimes of our past affect our societies today. 518 00:38:08,912 --> 00:38:10,622 The Iron Curtain comes down in Germany, and 519 00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:11,748 the city of Berlin, 520 00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:13,333 once its capital, 521 00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,752 now lies deep within the Soviet Zone. 522 00:38:15,752 --> 00:38:19,464 So de-Nazification in East Germany was really 523 00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:23,009 a top-down affair; the government promoted it. 524 00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:25,553 They acknowledged guilt. 525 00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:29,224 But as the Cold War began in West Germany, 526 00:38:29,224 --> 00:38:32,852 fighting communism and putting a lot of money into the economy 527 00:38:32,852 --> 00:38:36,856 and focusing on consumer goods was considered 528 00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:40,193 much more important than fighting Nazism. 529 00:38:40,193 --> 00:38:43,530 There was certainly no national reckoning with 530 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,616 the Nazi period in West Germany. 531 00:38:46,616 --> 00:38:49,202 Finally, in 1970, 532 00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:52,163 the first Social Democratic Chancellor of Germany, 533 00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,457 Willy Brandt, went to Poland, 534 00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:58,670 to the memorial at the Warsaw Ghetto, 535 00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:01,506 and he was so moved, 536 00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:04,092 he felt that laying a wreath was not enough, 537 00:39:04,092 --> 00:39:07,720 and he fell on his knees in a gesture of atonement. 538 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:14,394 That picture has been iconic for many people's views 539 00:39:14,394 --> 00:39:16,771 of post-war Germany. 540 00:39:16,771 --> 00:39:20,775 But there was an awful lot of backlash for that gesture 541 00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:25,280 within Germany, although it won him the admiration of 542 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,407 the rest of the world, and, indeed, 543 00:39:27,407 --> 00:39:29,409 the Nobel Peace Prize. 544 00:39:40,336 --> 00:39:44,382 If we want to ever conceive a world where 545 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:48,970 these crimes against humanity do not happen anymore, 546 00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:52,432 we have to talk about it, learn of the Holocaust. 547 00:39:53,808 --> 00:39:59,731 I'm struck by some of the echoes I see in our world today. 548 00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:04,652 What I ask myself is, "How come we haven't learned more?" 549 00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:15,663 Jews will not replace us! 550 00:40:15,997 --> 00:40:18,958 How can I understand that? 551 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:22,503 That people still can sing. 552 00:40:23,713 --> 00:40:25,632 I can't believe it. 553 00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:30,720 That kind of cult, that was created by and 554 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:35,350 around Hitler, is a poison, and it has not gone away. 555 00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:38,269 The story of Hitler is still important today, 556 00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:41,397 not because the Holocaust is gonna happen again in the same form, 557 00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:43,900 not because anybody else is Hitler, 558 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:46,903 but because if these things are possible, 559 00:40:46,903 --> 00:40:49,322 that means similar things are possible. 560 00:40:49,322 --> 00:40:51,407 I don't subscribe to a view that there was something in 561 00:40:51,407 --> 00:40:55,745 Hitler's character that made him particularly suitable to 562 00:40:55,745 --> 00:40:58,164 fulfill that role, but rather the other way round, 563 00:40:58,164 --> 00:41:01,834 that the ways in which the times unfolded created an opportunity 564 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:05,838 for someone like Hitler to find a receptive audience. 565 00:41:06,714 --> 00:41:09,509 People of an extreme point of view talk 566 00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:11,552 as the Nazis talked. 567 00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:14,722 They talk about certain groups of people who are inhuman, 568 00:41:14,722 --> 00:41:16,349 who have to be removed; 569 00:41:16,349 --> 00:41:19,102 foreigners, immigrants, people of a different color, 570 00:41:19,102 --> 00:41:20,603 or of a different race. 571 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:24,941 If you let that talk just linger on the margins, 572 00:41:24,941 --> 00:41:28,027 it will move to the center at some point. 573 00:41:28,945 --> 00:41:32,615 You can't feel with me what I have suffered. 574 00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:34,784 I was a child. 575 00:41:34,784 --> 00:41:40,248 It is necessary to tell it again and again, 576 00:41:40,248 --> 00:41:42,959 and so I, I'm telling you. 577 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:48,548 I, I don't think this could've happened in 578 00:41:48,548 --> 00:41:51,467 the United States, but who knows? 579 00:41:52,301 --> 00:41:54,012 We must all watch out. 580 00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:56,055 Captioned by Cotter Media Group. 47452

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