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- I had talked to Terry in the
morning,
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and he says, "You coming over?"
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I say, "Okay. "
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Well, when you've been
up for a couple days,
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things get discombobulated, the
processes,
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and what happened was, Terry
was playing with the gun,
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that stupid little automatic he
had,
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and he just played with the gun,
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and he just went like that,
"Hey, John."
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Boom, boom.
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Just that,
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and I hate it when people say,
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"Oh, he committed suicide."
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You're full of shit.
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They don't know shit.
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They just wanna be sensational.
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- He was the leader of the band.
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You know What I mean.
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"One, two, three."
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He was the leader of the band.
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- Terry was really soulful.
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Really pretty voice.
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- Terry Kath was an innovator,
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to the point Where Jimmy Hendrix
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was blown away by Terry's
playing.
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- When we were locked,
Terry and I, it was fun.
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- He was the most wonderful
guitar player.
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He was the fastest I've ever
seen.
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- I spent a lot of time
wondering
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how in the world does he get
a guitar to sound like that?
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- I never knew my dad.
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I know that he was the lead
guitarist
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and co-founding member
of the band, Chicago.
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I know that he loved my
mother and me very much,
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and his music provided a
soundtrack
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to many of my experiences.
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People who knew him are often
struck
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by how similar we look,
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and even how similar we seem,
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but to me, he's been a relative
mystery,
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and I began to search
for clues to who he was.
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I Oh my reasons and my ways
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I Keep on changing from day to
day
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I As I do it becomes so clear
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I Why I'm here
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After the birth of my first
child,
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I found a box of my mom's
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that she had tucked away in a
closet.
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It was filled with love letters,
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photos and compositions.
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But What was most exciting to
me,
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was my dad's eight millimeter
home movies.
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It was like getting a
glimpse into his mind,
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snapshots of things beyond his
music
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that meant something to him.
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Life on the road, my mom,
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me, as a baby.
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This was
our last Christmas together.
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He died tragically before
my second birthday.
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This is the neighborhood
my dad grew up in, really.
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His house is close by.
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They walked these streets.
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I Looking back a few short years
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Uncle Rod.
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- How are you?
- Hello, Uncle Rod.
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- Good to see you.
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- Uncle Rod left at 6:30
in the morning to meet us.
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- Oh, absolutely.
To beat the rush hour traffic.
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I used to live here.
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I Clinging to our confidence
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I We stood on the threshold of
the goal
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- The reason Why I wanted to
focus so much
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on the Kath's Lake Placid Lodge
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is because you guys
spent a lot of time there
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and a lot of the interviews
and the stories I'm getting,
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everyone talks about this
need my dad had
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to get back to nature
and be in this place,
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this environment you guys were
raised in.
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- Well, it was a fantasy.
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And when you think about it,
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we grew up in the city of
Chicago,
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our parents bought a piece of
property,
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which was 160 acres with
5,000 feet of lake frontage
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that you couldn't drive to.
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- You were
saying there was always
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musical instruments lying
around?
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- Here Terry started
playing,
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there were woodwinds,
Clarinets, saxophone,
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accordion, and then
Terry brought the guitar
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into the environment.
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- Do you know What
might have
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spurred that on, the need
to pick up the guitar
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as opposed to anything else.
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Was he into any kind of music at
the time?
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- To defy my father.
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- To defy your
father?
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- His father.
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He didn't like those long
haired creeps with the guitars.
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He didn't consider it to
be music at the beginning.
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- That's so funny.
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- And there was a
little rebellion there,
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but Terry had this innate
ability
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to pick something up and
start walking through it
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and just pick up without any
ability to read the music,
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pick up the melody and play it.
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- Can you tell
me about the first time
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you met my dad?
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- We met at Boulevard Studios,
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and I decided for a little
that sounded like Elvis,
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and we didn't hit it off right
away,
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but got really friendly
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and he'd stay over at my house,
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and we'd take records down,
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like Jack McDuff live
at the Jazz Workshop,
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and he'd take the guitar licks
off
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of George Benson and I'd try to
take
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Red Holloway's licks off on the
tenon
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and we'd just mess
around and we hit it off.
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- I was 15 and a half, so he was
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The very first meeting, I passed
the audition for the band,
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and I was just going
to observe the drummer
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and gonna learn the
songs and got here, said,
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"This is Terry, this is Danny. "
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He was so relaxed and cool and
easy going and unpretentious.
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- I met Terry at Walt's
parent's house in Chicago.
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My impression of Terry was
one of the more amusing guys
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I've ever met.
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He was always up to something.
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He had a sense of mischief,
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good natured mischief going on.
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- I think the
first time I saw him,
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you guys were playing a gig
down at the Happy Medium.
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- The Pussy Cat A Go Go.
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- The Pussy Cat A Go Go?
- Yeah.
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With Missing Links.
- Yeah.
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And he was playing bass.
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- He was playing
bass with the Missing Links.
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- I remember, excuse me,
just being blown away
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by his voice,
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the soul in his voice.
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I Every day I wake up crying
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I Every day
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- Yo.
- Hello, how are you?
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- Morning everybody.
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- Good morning, been a while.
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- It's been a While.
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Hi.
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- This is Dennis Polkow.
- Dennis, nice to meet you.
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- It's a great pleasure.
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May I?
- Yes, of course.
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- And this is Michy
Saxe.
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- Hi, Micky.
- How are you doing?
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How are you?
- Nice to meet you.
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Finally.
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- And doesn't she look like her,
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do you see a little-
- It's, yeah.
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- It's uncanny, isn't it?
- It really is.
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- The music scene, the
people,
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and most of the fans had long
hair,
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most of the public had crew
cuts.
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- Yes, exactly.
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It was a statement.
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Very definitely about how
you felt about the war
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and how you felt about society
in general.
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There was this phenomenon
called show bands.
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What you're seeing when you
see those early pictures
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of The Big Thing, or The Missing
Links,
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and they're all in shark skin
suits,
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that was the style then,
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and yes, it very much
was about getting people
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to dance and to respond
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because this was music
that they wouldn't know.
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The covers that they
did were very unusual.
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They were their own
arrangements.
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- Their own take.
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- Yeah, their own take.
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That was always a challenge
for the club owners,
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who of course, would much
prefer a human jukebox.
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- This was The Happy Medium,
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and upstairs was an actual
performance for bigger acts.
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Downstairs was a club called the
Pussycat,
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and the Pussycat is Where
most of the bands played.
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We'd come and see each other
play.
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Somebody would get off one gig
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and you'd end up, you'd
in the back of the room
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and the guys were back there,
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and that's how we were.
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We were family,
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and especially that tie to
DePaul,
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which was an important part,
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because there was a crew of us
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that came and went to different
bands.
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- This is where the music school
was.
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It's the college of law, now,
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but this was on the original
signs, Lewis Center,
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and the fifth floor of this
building
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was where the music school was,
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and though your dad didn't
actually go,
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he was a fixture.
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- Oh, he was there every-
- Yeah.
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- He was there quite often.
- Yeah.
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- I love it.
- Yeah, yeah.
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- That's one way to go to
college.
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- That's one way to do.
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- Terry, although
we were trained musicians,
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Terry walked in and fit right
in.
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- 80 you guys knew
each other,
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when did you meet him?
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- I was at DePaul, so that's how
I knew
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Walt and Lee and Jimmy.
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So I had left.
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I'm working with Dick Clark.
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We're on the road.
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We had a band and I
was getting promoted up
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from the D band to the C band,
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and there was an opportunity
when I got moved up.
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- And I said to the guys,
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I said, "Well is there
room for Terry to come,
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“cause I'm not going otherwise.
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"You need a guitar player. "
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And he said, "You're talking to
him."
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I said, "Well, then I can't go."
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And then for some reason, I
thought,
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"Do you have a bass player?"
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And they said, "No."
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And I went back to Terry, I
says,
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"Hey, we can go and travel from
California
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"in a bus with all these
acts and everything.
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"Would you wanna get a bass?
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"If you don't wanna get
a bass, that's cool.
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"We'll just pass on this thing."
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He says, "I'll get a fender
bass."
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And he got an echo bass.
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- We played a placed
called Holiday Ballroom.
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We backed up Paul Revere and the
Raiders
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and it was one show at
Aaron Crown Theater,
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and then we did a road gig.
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That was an actual Dick Clark
gig-
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It was the only one I got to do
with him,
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with The Four Seasons and Little
Anthony
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and the Imperial, the Yard
Birds,
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first North American appearance.
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It was really mind blowing.
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- I was in another group in
Chicago,
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and this new group, the Big Pink
came.
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We actually played a gig
together,
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and I think about the second
night.
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He said, "Hey, we wanna talk to
you.
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“We're looking for a
bass player who sings."
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Your dad, he and I did not hit
it off.
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He didn't like What I was
playing on bass,
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and in about two weeks I said,
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"It's not working for me, guys."
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"Why, Why, Why?"
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Well Terry's not even talking to
me,
256
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he's grumpy, he's complaining
about everything I'm playing,
257
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and Bobby said, "No.
258
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"Never mind Terry.
259
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"Terry, you be nice."
260
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Or something, it was one of
those "You be nice" moments
261
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and "We want you in the
group and that's that."
262
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And that's how it started.
263
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- Walt's idea was
to be the kind of band
264
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that could work in night clubs
265
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and maybe even work in Las
Vegas,
266
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that was about as far
as Walt's vision was.
267
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I pulled Terry aside and I said
"Terry,
268
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"Walt and I are gonna
put a horn band together,
269
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"an all star band, and we
want you to play guitar.
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"Not bass, guitar.
271
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"Instead of going out to the
west coast,
272
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"Why don't you stay here with
us."
273
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And he thought about it and
said,
274
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"Yeah, I don't wanna leave you
guys.
275
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"Okay, I'm gonna stay, I'm in."
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So that was the beginning of
Chicago Transit Authority,
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of course we weren't called
that.
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- They were called The Big
Thing,
279
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and they were playing in the
suburbs.
280
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- Your dad was trying to
encourage us
281
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to be ourselves for a long time
282
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but we were wanting to work
283
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so we had to play this game with
the suits
284
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and the Whole nine yards.
285
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- Cover band.
- Cover band, you know,
286
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doing the R and B and stuff.
287
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I Not unusual to make love with
a new one.
288
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Terry was always the renegade.
289
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Your dad didn't like this image.
290
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We weren't crazy about it
either,
291
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so we showed up at the club the
next day.
292
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This was the biggest club in the
midwest.
293
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We had the hair hanging down
294
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and Terry's suit jacket was
inside out
295
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and this guy was looking at us
like,
296
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"What's going on here?"
297
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He'd sit at the bar with his
cronies
298
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while we started the sets.
299
00:14:18,358 --> 00:14:19,689
- Right across the
street, Cream
300
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was making their American
concert debut
301
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and they were playing
this place down below,
302
00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:27,480
and here we are stuck in this
nightclub.
303
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The owner was a real slime ball,
304
00:14:30,953 --> 00:14:32,569
and he comes up to us and he
goes,
305
00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:34,454
"Hey, boys, play one of
those belly rubbers."
306
00:14:34,749 --> 00:14:37,537
So he could dance with
his waitress girlfriend.
307
00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:39,826
- Instead of playing
Misty,
308
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we launched into a Frank Zappa
tune,
309
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How Could I Be Such a Fool,
310
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and we tore Terry's jacket off
311
00:14:47,804 --> 00:14:50,387
in the process of playing the
song,
312
00:14:50,681 --> 00:14:53,673
and with that, the club
owner got off his stool,
313
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he was completely irate.
314
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He ran to the front of the stage
315
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and started yanking at Walt's
pants,
316
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and I'm playing next and I'm
going,
317
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"Walt, What is he saying?
318
00:15:01,109 --> 00:15:01,940
"What is he saying?"
319
00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:03,316
Walt goes, "I think we're
fired."
320
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And Terry says, "Yeah, screw it.
321
00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:07,566
"Let's just keep playing man."
322
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- And The Big Thing
became CTA.
323
00:15:10,284 --> 00:15:11,490
- Thank God.
324
00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,574
Can you imagine being
called The Big Thing.
325
00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:19,207
It conjures up a lot
of strange thoughts, doesn't it?
326
00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:23,958
Launches into that
Mothers of Invention song,
327
00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:25,292
at the club.
- Yeah.
328
00:15:25,591 --> 00:15:27,298
- Which was Terry's
idea,
329
00:15:27,593 --> 00:15:28,298
was your dad's idea.
330
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That was a defining moment.
331
00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:31,636
- That was
breaking out of the mold.
332
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,046
- That was a defining
moment,
333
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because from that day on,
334
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we decided we're gonna be us.
335
00:16:16,184 --> 00:16:17,515
I Well my Daddy sent a message
336
00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:19,721
I 'bout the Whiskers on my chin
337
00:16:20,021 --> 00:16:21,227
I Never had no problems
338
00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:22,978
I 'cause I've always paid the
rent
339
00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:24,685
I I got no time for Iovin'
340
00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:26,770
I My time is all used up
341
00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:30,607
I Spend my time creatin' for
some groovy kinds of love
342
00:16:30,907 --> 00:16:36,118
I I'm a man, yes I am, and
I can't help but love you so
343
00:16:38,206 --> 00:16:43,667
I I'm a man, yes I am, and
I can't help but love you so
344
00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:47,753
I If I had my choice of matter
345
00:16:48,049 --> 00:16:49,585
I I'd rather be content
346
00:16:49,884 --> 00:16:51,374
I Being closer to the chatter
347
00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:53,259
I Than Where your mind is at
348
00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:55,215
I While relating to each other
349
00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:57,131
I How strong your love will be
350
00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:59,219
I Except that only sometimes
351
00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,009
I Groovy chicks you see
352
00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:03,929
I I'm a man, yes I am, and
I can't help but love you so
353
00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:05,973
- The Wildest thing was
your dad happened
354
00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:08,061
to call my apartment, and he
said,
355
00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:10,728
"This guy's in town
I want you to know,
356
00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:13,112
"and I think he can help us out.
357
00:17:13,407 --> 00:17:14,738
"You oughta talk to him."
358
00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,570
- So anyhow, I went to
Barnaby's and saw 'em,
359
00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,906
said, "This is all incredible.
360
00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:20,161
"It's better than anybody who
does it,
361
00:17:20,456 --> 00:17:22,242
"and it's great but I can't use
it."
362
00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,158
I gotta have original material
363
00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:25,950
and they went to work and Jimmy
364
00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:28,837
and they went to work and rock.
365
00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:30,872
- And that was our break.
366
00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:38,888
When we moved to California,
367
00:17:39,183 --> 00:17:41,220
the first album was What we
rehearsed
368
00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:42,634
at the Holly Drive house, which
was
369
00:17:42,937 --> 00:17:44,519
our little house in LA.
370
00:17:44,814 --> 00:17:46,725
- The late 605 was a very
experimental
371
00:17:47,024 --> 00:17:49,732
time in music and we were
really trying to break
372
00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:54,021
new ground and we were being
encouraged by Jim Guercio.
373
00:17:54,323 --> 00:17:55,859
Don't just try to write songs,
374
00:17:56,158 --> 00:17:57,648
and we took the influences of
the things
375
00:17:57,952 --> 00:17:59,659
we were listening to at the
time,
376
00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:01,661
everything from The Beatles,
Hendrix,
377
00:18:01,956 --> 00:18:03,572
some jazz to some classical.
378
00:18:03,874 --> 00:18:08,289
We made those influences drive
379
00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:14,834
how each composition had no
standard form of construction.
380
00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:19,175
As we composed the music
for the first album
381
00:18:19,473 --> 00:18:21,840
and rehearsed it and
rehearsed it and rehearsed it,
382
00:18:22,143 --> 00:18:24,259
over and over, in that little
house,
383
00:18:24,562 --> 00:18:27,145
it began to take form and
at some point, Guercio said,
384
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,434
"Okay, we're going to New
York and we're gonna record."
385
00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,271
- And did that Whole album in 14
days
386
00:18:37,241 --> 00:18:40,950
and that whole album was done
eight track.
387
00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:43,282
- He wrote this song,
which is the first song
388
00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:45,743
on the first, called
Introduction,
389
00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:51,082
and it's basically, your dad
wanted to introduce the band
390
00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:52,211
in a song.
391
00:19:08,439 --> 00:19:10,771
I Hey there everybody
392
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:14,476
I Please don't romp or roam
393
00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:18,108
I We're a little nervous
394
00:19:19,617 --> 00:19:22,109
I 'Cause we're so far from home
395
00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:25,115
I So this is what we do
396
00:19:25,414 --> 00:19:26,700
I Sit back and let us groove
397
00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:30,242
I And let us work on you
398
00:19:37,927 --> 00:19:40,419
I We've all spent years
preparing
399
00:19:40,721 --> 00:19:44,214
I Before this band was born
400
00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:47,809
I With heaven's help it blended
401
00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:52,848
I And we do thank the lord,
yeah, yeah
402
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:54,561
I Come on, everybody
403
00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:57,227
I Sit back and let us groove
404
00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:00,773
I Let us work on you, yeah,
yeah,yeah
405
00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:16,041
Well the introduction's my
favorite.
406
00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,331
That's a killer piece.
407
00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,625
Incredible piece of music.
408
00:20:22,263 --> 00:20:25,927
Your dad ran that band
and that's his tune.
409
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,178
I love Introduction, one take,
live.
410
00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:33,555
One, first album.
411
00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:34,814
- To me Introduction is like
412
00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:39,273
the greatest challenge
I've ever had musically.
413
00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:41,779
It's a really challenging song.
414
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:44,361
It's got three or four
different time changes.
415
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,116
It starts in four four,
416
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:49,404
then it goes three
eight and into 19 eight.
417
00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:52,790
19 eight, you can't even
fathom how to count it,
418
00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:53,995
and then back into four four
419
00:20:54,295 --> 00:20:57,458
and it has tempo changes and
also kicks.
420
00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:01,837
- But he didn't actually write
music.
421
00:21:02,136 --> 00:21:03,752
I'm trying to imagine now you
guys
422
00:21:04,054 --> 00:21:05,715
in the studio recording this
song,
423
00:21:06,015 --> 00:21:08,882
and him trying to get it out of
his brain
424
00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:11,017
and communicate to you.
425
00:21:11,312 --> 00:21:13,599
- He wrote this piece with all
of these
426
00:21:13,898 --> 00:21:16,481
complicated time signatures
427
00:21:17,193 --> 00:21:20,185
and he said, "Jimmy come over
here."
428
00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:23,731
Because I have the ability
to write stuff down,
429
00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:25,694
and he needed that to happen,
430
00:21:25,993 --> 00:21:28,781
so he could chart everything
out,
431
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:30,194
so we could then present it
432
00:21:30,498 --> 00:21:31,738
to everybody in the band
433
00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:33,452
and they could read the parts,
434
00:21:33,751 --> 00:21:35,867
and when I started writing it
down,
435
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:39,162
only then did I realize how
sophisticated
436
00:21:39,465 --> 00:21:41,206
the mind of this guy was
437
00:21:41,509 --> 00:21:43,671
to be able to encapsulate
438
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:47,633
this song in his head, in its
entirety.
439
00:21:47,932 --> 00:21:51,141
I'm going, "Man, this dude
is off the charts, man."
440
00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,017
That's when I realized,
441
00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,895
I always knew how enormously
talented
442
00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:59,808
your dad was, but when that song
happened,
443
00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:02,727
that's when I really understood
444
00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:07,649
how deep Terry's
integration into music was,
445
00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:10,410
because just writing it
down was a daunting task,
446
00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:12,615
much less having it all in his
head.
447
00:22:20,631 --> 00:22:21,541
- Sitting there counting
minutes,
448
00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:23,878
I wanted to do a double album,
449
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:25,837
but then that went up.
450
00:22:28,222 --> 00:22:31,180
I said, "Terry, do that
thing with your guitar. "
451
00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:34,467
- I found one called Free Form
Guitar,
452
00:22:36,105 --> 00:22:39,188
and I'm not sure exactly What
that is.
453
00:22:58,002 --> 00:22:59,584
- That was way ahead of its
time.
454
00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:01,711
I remember, it was almost
Coltrane-esque.
455
00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:03,997
- There was no pedals.
456
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,211
We set him up, nobody was in the
room.
457
00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:08,126
Turned the lights down.
458
00:23:08,429 --> 00:23:11,467
The big concert studio that we
recorded
459
00:23:11,765 --> 00:23:15,429
a lot of the album in,
but that was one take.
460
00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:17,560
It was one take, just him.
461
00:23:17,855 --> 00:23:20,847
I think I mic'd it on three,
four tracks,
462
00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:21,890
I had echo.
463
00:23:27,823 --> 00:23:31,908
- I'm well versed enough so
that when I hear that piece,
464
00:23:33,037 --> 00:23:35,244
I know What he's doing.
465
00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:41,121
I have a visual of that sound
466
00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:43,206
of What you have to do with your
guitar
467
00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:46,463
to get that sound and
there's a couple other things
468
00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:48,124
that I don't know What he's
doing.
469
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:49,383
I don't know how in the world
470
00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:53,512
he got that out of a guitar.
471
00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:58,017
- Do you
know about that guitar?
472
00:23:58,312 --> 00:23:59,643
Where it might be?
473
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:01,350
- Is that the one-
- I don't know.
474
00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:04,061
We're trying to look for it.
475
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,853
- You know, I think
Hank has the guitar.
476
00:24:15,746 --> 00:24:17,578
- Fender's genius design
of the telecaster
477
00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:19,159
was the fact that it was solid.
478
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,244
You can see it's not
a hollow bodied,
479
00:24:21,543 --> 00:24:23,033
'cause at the time hollow bodies
480
00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:24,953
were prominent and
prone to feedback,
481
00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:26,996
Whereas this was not,
so you can see
482
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:28,630
it has two single coils.
483
00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:31,042
Bridge pickup is angled to
create
484
00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:34,087
that Telly twang,
or the brightness.
485
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:35,846
- Why would he favor this
guitar?
486
00:24:36,141 --> 00:24:37,222
What do you think?
487
00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:39,259
- He really liked the
ability of the telecaster's
488
00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:41,893
bridge pickup to cut through
mix.
489
00:24:42,189 --> 00:24:44,146
Somewhere around 1972 on his
guitar,
490
00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:47,433
apparently he asked his
guitar tech at the time
491
00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:49,352
to carve it out and put a
humbucker
492
00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:50,816
or double coil-
- On this?
493
00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:54,653
- Yeah, on this one,
double coil in the neck,
494
00:24:54,952 --> 00:24:57,569
so that he could have some
Gibson
495
00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:00,112
and the sound
of a Fender in one guitar.
496
00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:03,158
From what I read, he
favored the Stratocaster
497
00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:05,246
tremolo system, mostly
because of its response
498
00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:08,538
but also intonation, which
intonation on a guitar
499
00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:11,208
makes sure that
all the notes sound good
500
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,592
on the front board,
'cause from here to here,
501
00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:15,628
can't be fixed.
502
00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:17,513
That's just standard intonation,
503
00:25:17,808 --> 00:25:18,843
but from here to here,
504
00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:21,009
it can be anywhere between a
half step
505
00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:22,392
and a Whole step off depending
506
00:25:22,688 --> 00:25:23,894
on how bad your intonation is.
507
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,600
I was reading in,
I have an original copy
508
00:25:25,899 --> 00:25:28,812
of the 1971
or '72 Guitar Player magazine
509
00:25:29,111 --> 00:25:31,022
that your dad was featured in.
510
00:25:31,321 --> 00:25:34,404
He just said that he liked
the Fender Stratocaster
511
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:36,316
tremolo bridge the best.
512
00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:39,701
- Okay, I'm gonna introduce
you to Tom Vienna.
513
00:25:39,997 --> 00:25:42,955
I came across Tom
because when I first
514
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:44,991
had the idea
to do the documentary,
515
00:25:45,294 --> 00:25:47,706
I was just researching,
516
00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:49,871
and his website always came up,
517
00:25:50,174 --> 00:25:51,414
over and over and over,
518
00:25:51,717 --> 00:25:53,708
and I was like, "God, people
are obsessed with this guitar. "
519
00:25:54,011 --> 00:25:56,673
And there were forums and chats,
520
00:25:56,972 --> 00:25:57,882
like, "Where is this guitar?"
521
00:25:58,182 --> 00:26:01,049
And seriously intricate details
522
00:26:01,351 --> 00:26:03,092
on how to replicate this guitar,
523
00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:05,602
so in my journey,
we're trying to figure out
524
00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:06,763
Where this guitar is.
525
00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:08,932
It's taken a character of its
own,
526
00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:11,191
'cause we haven't found it yet.
527
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,160
Can you describe any of the
setups
528
00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:23,913
or the gear or any of that
stuff?
529
00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:26,575
- He had these Radio Shack
amplifiers
530
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:29,209
that were really old PA
amplifiers.
531
00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:32,122
I think he got the first one
in Chicago
532
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,006
before he ever came out here,
533
00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:36,963
and he used acoustic speaker
cam,
534
00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:40,300
with six 10 inch speakers
in each one,
535
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,010
and they thought he,
if I can remember,
536
00:26:42,309 --> 00:26:45,472
two of those on stage.
537
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:50,315
- That amp, I don't know,
it was this little box.
538
00:26:51,318 --> 00:26:52,774
I don't think he was using it.
539
00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:54,481
It wasn't even a guitar amp.
540
00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:56,896
It was for something,
PA or something.
541
00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:58,485
At the time it was so primitive
542
00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:01,367
that it picked up RF,
radio frequencies
543
00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:04,120
from these places and you'd be
544
00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:05,700
right through his amps
in the afternoon,
545
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,034
when he's testing them out,
546
00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:10,326
you'd hear a radio station
coming through the amps.
547
00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:13,587
Rig, they called the rig,
his whole setup.
548
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:18,126
We'd be running Wire
40, 60 feet ground Wires
549
00:27:18,428 --> 00:27:20,510
to get rid of the RF.
550
00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:22,388
He'd hook up chicken wire
551
00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:24,845
and your dad would say,
"I don't give a shit.
552
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:26,430
"Let's go, I don't care.
553
00:27:26,728 --> 00:27:27,638
"That's my rig, I'm going.
554
00:27:27,938 --> 00:27:28,643
"You wanna use something else?
555
00:27:28,939 --> 00:27:30,179
"No, I ain't using nothing
else."
556
00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:31,563
- He was so having fun,
557
00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:34,066
and I heard a story, they
say that Hendrix said
558
00:27:34,361 --> 00:27:36,068
that when he saw Terry play,
559
00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:37,774
he said, "That guy
is the best guitar player
560
00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:39,484
"I've ever heard in my life."
561
00:27:39,783 --> 00:27:42,571
So let's just start with
getting a thumbs up from Jimmy
562
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:44,406
and work exponentially forward,
563
00:27:44,705 --> 00:27:46,662
that's how everybody felt,
564
00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:50,450
that he was the superstar of the
band.
565
00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:52,868
- Chicago, there was a
house band at the Whiskey,
566
00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:55,709
and one night, they were on
stage playing,
567
00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:59,967
and somebody, one of the
guys looks at me and goes,
568
00:28:00,262 --> 00:28:01,218
motioning in the back
569
00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:04,551
and in the back of the
room is Jimmy Hendrix.
570
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:09,720
Had a scarf, said, "Oh,
my God, Jimmy Hendrix."
571
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:14,224
We just happened to do Purple
Haze and stuff like that,
572
00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:16,312
and so we finished our set and
like,
573
00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:18,979
"Oh, my God, Jimmy Hendrix."
574
00:28:19,281 --> 00:28:21,363
We couldn't breathe and we
went in the dressing room
575
00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,615
and we sat down, toweling
off, "Jimmy Hendrix!"
576
00:28:23,911 --> 00:28:25,822
Sitting there, the door swings
open
577
00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:28,579
and in walks frickin' Jimmy
Hendrix.
578
00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:30,456
He walks in and he goes,
579
00:28:30,751 --> 00:28:33,209
"You guys are motherfuckers."
580
00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:34,493
And that's when he came up to me
581
00:28:34,796 --> 00:28:36,707
right after we had
made the deal with CBS
582
00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:39,169
to produce CTA, the first album.
583
00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:40,208
- What of course we find out
584
00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:42,592
was that he really, he was
floored
585
00:28:42,888 --> 00:28:43,878
with the group, of course,
586
00:28:44,181 --> 00:28:45,592
but he was floored with Terry.
587
00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,303
He had his management
call our then-management,
588
00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:50,434
and we opened for Hendrix
for the tour.
589
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,720
- Your dad and him were buddies.
590
00:28:53,023 --> 00:28:56,561
He thought your dad was
the best guitar player.
591
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:58,146
He said, "He's better than me."
592
00:28:58,445 --> 00:28:59,105
Yeah.
593
00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:06,025
Anyway he said, "You gotta
let me produce it, man.
594
00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:07,534
"Gotta let me produce it."
595
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:08,910
Like that.
596
00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:11,493
- Imagine if
Jimmy Hendrix and my dad
597
00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:13,203
had an album together.
598
00:29:13,502 --> 00:29:16,585
- We talked about it many
times.
599
00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:25,045
- The reason Why I think
it's important to come
600
00:29:25,347 --> 00:29:27,930
and talk to you is because you're
a little piece of history,
601
00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:30,717
not only with my dad but
with the band as well.
602
00:29:31,019 --> 00:29:34,307
With your fine establishment
here.
603
00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:35,937
- That there Whiskey,
your dad was there
604
00:29:36,233 --> 00:29:37,644
almost 50 years ago.
- Yeah.
605
00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:39,354
- That's a long time.
606
00:29:39,653 --> 00:29:42,361
- Did you know my dad
back in Chicago?
607
00:29:42,656 --> 00:29:44,112
- No, I knew him from here.
- Oh, from here.
608
00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:45,443
- In fact, we put him into
Whiskey
609
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:47,198
when they first came here.
610
00:29:47,494 --> 00:29:48,609
Whiskey A Go Go.
611
00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:50,869
They were still there, 50 years
now.
612
00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:52,154
- Yeah, it was
one of the first places
613
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:53,322
they played.
- Yeah, right.
614
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:55,912
- The Whiskey.
- Yeah.
615
00:29:56,211 --> 00:29:59,454
But your dad was a very
dear friend of mind,
616
00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:02,123
and that's how I came to baptize
you
617
00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:03,587
for your father.
618
00:30:03,885 --> 00:30:06,752
He's a great musician.
Great, was, I love him to death.
619
00:30:07,055 --> 00:30:08,511
I still think about him today.
620
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:10,673
Think of him all the time.
621
00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,058
There he is, right there.
622
00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:16,937
There's my friend, right here,
see him?
623
00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,599
Look at how beautiful he is.
624
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:21,562
What a great guy, God.
625
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:26,947
Just can't forget him,
he's right there.
626
00:30:28,493 --> 00:30:30,905
Little girl with blonde hair.
627
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,162
- I was that
little girl once upon a time.
628
00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:36,449
All the other pictures are
amazing.
629
00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:40,461
The history of the Sunset Strip.
630
00:30:44,134 --> 00:30:46,546
- Chicago has been
phenomenally successful
631
00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,085
outside of the United States.
632
00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:51,301
They've been accepted all
through the continent,
633
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,261
in France and Germany,
Switzerland,
634
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,724
Denmark, Holland, Sweden,
and England, phenomenally.
635
00:30:58,023 --> 00:30:59,513
They've been accepted
much more readily
636
00:30:59,816 --> 00:31:01,272
than they have here.
637
00:31:01,568 --> 00:31:04,981
Yet at the same time, we have
toured more extensively here.
638
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,270
We've played more cities here.
639
00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:07,904
We've played every borough,
every state,
640
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,238
every major city over two,
three hundred thousand
641
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:13,527
population in the country.
642
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:14,945
Not that we were
an overnight success,
643
00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:17,114
but when all of the sudden
hit that level,
644
00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:18,999
your life is not your own.
645
00:31:19,294 --> 00:31:21,376
We were gone more than we were
home.
646
00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:25,209
We were with each other
more than with our families.
647
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:28,297
You get surrounded by a
different element of people,
648
00:31:28,595 --> 00:31:35,843
not necessarily the most
stand up honest people.
649
00:31:36,812 --> 00:31:40,055
- I would see him when
my band The James Gang,
650
00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:44,772
and CGA were on the same show.
651
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:49,564
When I knew him,
they weren't a pop band.
652
00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,692
They would play songs live
653
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:56,074
that were 10 and 12 minutes
long,
654
00:31:56,373 --> 00:31:59,286
and the middle part,
everybody would open up
655
00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:02,326
and they'd just go improvise,
656
00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:05,838
and that's where Terry would
shine.
657
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,211
I Yeah, we can make it happen
658
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:10,251
I We can make it happen
659
00:32:10,554 --> 00:32:12,886
I Yeah, we can make it happen
660
00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:16,048
I We can make it happen, yeah
661
00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:19,719
I We can make it happen,
we can make it happen
662
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:24,015
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it happen
663
00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:29,736
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it happen
664
00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:34,446
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it happen
665
00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:39,113
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it happen
666
00:32:39,416 --> 00:32:43,410
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it happen
667
00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:48,797
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it happen
668
00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:53,552
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it happen
669
00:32:53,847 --> 00:32:57,841
I Yeah, we can make it
happen, we can make it hap-
670
00:33:02,606 --> 00:33:03,471
- Let's put it this way.
671
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:06,140
This is before we recorded an
album,
672
00:33:06,443 --> 00:33:07,729
and we went to New York
673
00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:09,018
and we used to go,
'cause everybody wanted
674
00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:12,439
to meet some chicks,
have a nice drink
675
00:33:12,741 --> 00:33:13,776
and all this stuff,
676
00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:16,282
so we'd go into these
night clubs or something,
677
00:33:16,578 --> 00:33:19,866
and all these groupie chicks.
678
00:33:20,165 --> 00:33:21,872
They'd come up,
"Oh, you've got long hair.
679
00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:23,157
"Who are you?"
680
00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:24,666
"Oh, I'm With CTA."
681
00:33:25,962 --> 00:33:27,077
They'd split.
682
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:28,791
You wouldn't even see them
for the rest of the night
683
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:32,208
and now, now with CTA,
we have an album out,
684
00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:34,343
now it's a different story.
685
00:33:34,638 --> 00:33:36,220
We go into places, we don't
even wanna meet chicks
686
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,552
half the time,
chicks are like, "Oh."
687
00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:40,887
All they want is a free ride.
688
00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:42,927
That's all a groupie is.
689
00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:45,267
They've been here for years,
man.
690
00:33:45,565 --> 00:33:46,771
They really have.
691
00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:50,901
Groupies have been around ever
since there was musicians.
692
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:56,361
- Yeah, it seems like a
fairytale,
693
00:33:56,660 --> 00:34:00,403
and when I look back, I think
of how romantic it all was.
694
00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:05,074
Graduated from high school
and I was traveling around.
695
00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:07,459
I always wanted to see
California,
696
00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:09,290
and I ended up in LA.
697
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,546
One day I was in a grocery
store,
698
00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:14,173
and I ran into my girlfriend
from Michigan
699
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:15,254
and she said, "Oh, my God.
700
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:17,886
"I'm living at the beach in
Malibu,
701
00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:19,342
"and my boyfriend's in Japan.
702
00:34:19,641 --> 00:34:21,382
"He works for this band Chicago,
703
00:34:21,685 --> 00:34:23,221
"and I'd love for you
to spend the summer.
704
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,555
"I'm here alone all summer. "
705
00:34:24,854 --> 00:34:26,094
And I thought, "Oh, my God.
706
00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:29,186
"This is like a dream come
true."
707
00:34:29,484 --> 00:34:31,566
I stayed with her at the beach.
708
00:34:31,861 --> 00:34:33,693
It was really wonderful.
709
00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:37,323
That night, Terry came over,
710
00:34:37,617 --> 00:34:39,403
and was very casual.
711
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,535
I met him, I thought he was
really nice.
712
00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:45,164
He said, "Oh, I wanna
take you for a ride."
713
00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:46,619
And we went up the coast a
little bit
714
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:49,831
in his Maserati and Terry
was a wonderful guy.
715
00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:51,086
He was a real gentleman,
716
00:34:51,381 --> 00:34:53,964
but I had plans to go
back home to Michigan.
717
00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:57,258
He kept writing me letters
718
00:34:57,554 --> 00:34:58,840
and sending me cards.
719
00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:01,847
I think I got one
or two cards a day
720
00:35:02,142 --> 00:35:04,224
for a very long time.
721
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,102
I don't know how he kept that
up.
722
00:35:08,148 --> 00:35:09,104
He called me and he said,
723
00:35:09,399 --> 00:35:10,355
"What would you like
for your birthday?"
724
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:12,937
And I said, "I'd like to
come out and see you."
725
00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:16,024
So I came out, he lived
in the Hollywood Hills.
726
00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:18,655
The vibe, the I. vibe
just didn't strike me
727
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:22,944
as a comfortable place to be
728
00:35:23,246 --> 00:35:24,987
and he could see that and he
said,
729
00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:27,622
"Well, Why don't we drive
to Colorado together? "
730
00:35:27,917 --> 00:35:30,750
And it was that drive
from I. to Colorado,
731
00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:32,628
a year after I met him
732
00:35:32,922 --> 00:35:37,007
that made me realize What
an amazing man he was,
733
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:38,588
and I fell in love with him.
734
00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:40,844
- Caribou is
probably a family deal,
735
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:42,755
work at the ranch in Colorado.
736
00:35:43,058 --> 00:35:44,298
You guys record.
737
00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:45,887
I guess live, too, Jim.
738
00:35:46,186 --> 00:35:47,176
Does anybody live there?
- No.
739
00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:48,219
Hang out, well we lived
740
00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:49,807
when we worked it.
- Uh huh.
741
00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:51,187
- Terry, you live ther -
- I used to live there,
742
00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:53,394
and hung out there pretty much,
743
00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:55,809
but I'm based in I., back there.
744
00:35:56,112 --> 00:35:58,353
- No, well it's not
out of range.
745
00:35:58,657 --> 00:35:59,863
It's not out of range.
- No, no, no, no.
746
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,944
- Who wants
to talk about Caribou?
747
00:36:02,243 --> 00:36:03,779
Peter, you wanna tell us
about the ranch?
748
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:04,864
What actually happens out there?
749
00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:07,245
The size of the spread
and all that.
750
00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:09,497
- You really want me to
say What happens at the ranch?
751
00:36:09,793 --> 00:36:10,578
- What happens at
the ranch?
752
00:36:10,877 --> 00:36:12,538
I think people wanna know.
- Nothing.
753
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:14,123
- The record
guy says don't tell them
754
00:36:14,422 --> 00:36:15,503
What happens at the ranch!
755
00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:19,879
I Don't you go once or twice
756
00:36:20,845 --> 00:36:23,803
I Think that you are very nice
757
00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:27,763
I Now, trust me, I'm easy
758
00:36:28,061 --> 00:36:29,677
I Hey girl
759
00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:32,391
I I think you got a pistol
760
00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:33,681
- Why do
you think Caribou Ranch
761
00:36:33,983 --> 00:36:36,941
was such this place that
was like this big draw
762
00:36:37,237 --> 00:36:39,604
for him that he loved so much?
763
00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:40,771
- Nature.
764
00:36:41,074 --> 00:36:43,782
It was just one big playpen.
765
00:36:44,077 --> 00:36:47,160
That was amazing to have
that time to ourselves
766
00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:50,197
and Caribou Ranch, live up
there,
767
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:51,786
spend all our time together
768
00:36:52,085 --> 00:36:53,200
doing Whatever the hell we want
769
00:36:53,503 --> 00:36:54,288
all over that ranch.
770
00:36:54,587 --> 00:36:56,373
Horseback riding, riding
motorcycles
771
00:36:56,673 --> 00:36:58,835
all over the ranch, shooting
guns,
772
00:36:59,134 --> 00:36:59,965
whatever you wanted.
773
00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:01,921
It was just fun.
774
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,383
When I first met Terry, I said,
"Why do you have to carry a gun?"
775
00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:07,798
Because when we were
at Caribou Ranch,
776
00:37:08,101 --> 00:37:11,139
he literally wore a
holster with .38 in it.
777
00:37:11,438 --> 00:37:15,432
One of his favorite
movies was Taxi Driver.
778
00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:16,519
"You talking to me?"
779
00:37:16,818 --> 00:37:18,183
And he'd do that in front of the
mirror
780
00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:20,944
with a gun, "You talking to me?"
781
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,858
But if you knew him,
it all made sense.
782
00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:28,243
It was just part
of the way he lived.
783
00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:32,497
We went out and set up
cans out in the fields
784
00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:34,624
at Caribou Ranch
and blasted all of them
785
00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:36,034
with different, "Oh, try this
one.
786
00:37:36,337 --> 00:37:36,917
"Oh, try this one, okay.
787
00:37:37,213 --> 00:37:38,453
"This one's got a real kick."
788
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:43,172
To him it wasn't something
used to kill anything,
789
00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:45,632
and he didn't believe in
hunting,
790
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,592
it was just something he loved.
791
00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:52,055
He loved cars, he loved
motorcycles and he loved guns,
792
00:37:52,353 --> 00:37:53,343
and he loved guitars,
793
00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:56,855
and so it became something
that was just there.
794
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:58,436
They were in the house.
795
00:37:58,735 --> 00:37:59,975
- Meanwhile back at the ranch,
796
00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,019
which is a video we shot with
Dick Clark,
797
00:38:02,322 --> 00:38:07,362
and they flew up a bunch of
kids from Colorado University
798
00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:09,446
and they built a stage,
799
00:38:09,746 --> 00:38:10,861
and we did a live concert.
800
00:38:11,164 --> 00:38:14,828
We were doing our normal
being bad boys in the house,
801
00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:18,118
and came out
and Terry's got this big,
802
00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:19,286
I don't know What you'd call it,
803
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:22,547
.45, .38 special,
and he walks out there
804
00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:24,424
and he brings it right on stage,
805
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,757
and before we start playing,
806
00:38:28,056 --> 00:38:30,343
he just raises it up
and fires a shot
807
00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:31,882
straight in the air,
808
00:38:32,185 --> 00:38:34,267
and everybody just, "Woah."
809
00:38:35,563 --> 00:38:38,555
We just saw, but that was Terry.
810
00:38:38,858 --> 00:38:42,021
Terry being Terry, scaring
the hell out of everybody.
811
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,776
- When we'd go to record,
812
00:38:44,072 --> 00:38:46,689
I would be the tour manager
or the one
813
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,574
most responsible,
I have this picture,
814
00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:53,203
and we had stayed up all night
815
00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:54,784
and we were gonna
go out shooting.
816
00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:56,414
We thought, "Oh, What a great
idea."
817
00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:00,043
And it was six or seven
in the morning.
818
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,000
The sun was right in our faces,
819
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:06,792
and here we are with
this plastered on smile
820
00:39:07,095 --> 00:39:09,712
of us leaning on his blazer
before we got in the car
821
00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:13,552
and went out shooting,
chopping down Aspen trees.
822
00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:23,482
- It seemed like a fairytale.
823
00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:28,526
For a very long time,
life was really good.
824
00:39:28,825 --> 00:39:30,065
It was a lot of fun.
825
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:33,736
They did a world tour
While I was with Terry.
826
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:34,948
That was incredible.
827
00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:37,831
Traveling through Switzerland
828
00:39:38,126 --> 00:39:41,335
and beautiful trains
with private cars
829
00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:44,917
and he took me to Paris
for the first time.
830
00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:46,581
The room was full of flowers.
831
00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:49,468
- Oh, Paris and flowers.
- Yes.
832
00:39:49,762 --> 00:39:52,049
Took me shopping, then
we went to Amsterdam,
833
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:53,804
which was so much fun.
834
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,137
Amsterdam with him.
835
00:39:56,436 --> 00:39:58,973
We traveled a lot with
Diane and Peter, too.
836
00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:00,603
We seemed to do
a lot of trips together,
837
00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:02,981
to Hawaii, to Europe together,
838
00:40:03,276 --> 00:40:05,392
and when Chicago traveled,
they had private planes,
839
00:40:05,695 --> 00:40:07,356
and it was just fun.
840
00:40:07,655 --> 00:40:08,736
It was just unreal.
841
00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:13,739
- All the Chicago
girls were very close.
842
00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:15,903
All the Wives.
843
00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,367
We hung out, they hung out.
844
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,249
It was really a family.
845
00:40:22,211 --> 00:40:23,793
The Whole Chicago organization.
846
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:26,375
You really felt
you were in a family.
847
00:40:26,674 --> 00:40:27,709
We were all from Chicago.
848
00:40:28,009 --> 00:40:30,751
Well, some of the girls weren't.
849
00:40:31,054 --> 00:40:34,763
The closest friends I ever
had were during that time.
850
00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:38,725
- Whenever Chicago had time off,
851
00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40,385
I just never knew
what we were gonna do.
852
00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:43,020
I would wake up in the morning
and he'd look at me and say,
853
00:40:43,316 --> 00:40:45,023
"Do you wanna
go to Hawaii today? "
854
00:40:45,318 --> 00:40:46,149
"Yeah. "
855
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:47,934
"Let's go to Hawaii today,
okay. "
856
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:49,773
We loved going to Hawaii.
857
00:40:50,865 --> 00:40:53,027
I bought a vintage dress,
858
00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:56,068
a vintage lace dress.
859
00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:57,444
We got up really early
860
00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:58,908
'cause we wanted
to be out on the beach
861
00:40:59,207 --> 00:41:00,743
when no one was there
862
00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:02,532
and we went out to a point
863
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:06,669
out by the waves and
we married each other.
864
00:41:57,098 --> 00:41:58,509
- But he was very proud
of the fact
865
00:41:58,808 --> 00:42:00,469
that he had a daughter,
866
00:42:00,768 --> 00:42:04,136
and was looking forward
to the little things
867
00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:05,679
that would go on.
868
00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:09,516
- Well, it was
a source of pride.
869
00:42:09,819 --> 00:42:11,309
Just in some of these
pictures, you can see
870
00:42:11,612 --> 00:42:12,602
when he's holding you
871
00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,067
and those are very, those
are infant pictures,
872
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:17,357
the smile on his face.
873
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:18,775
- But he was very excited.
874
00:42:19,078 --> 00:42:20,364
He was a big part of the
process.
875
00:42:20,663 --> 00:42:22,074
He never walked away
from me then.
876
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:24,205
He was really into it.
877
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,538
We took you on the road
in a little harness
878
00:42:27,837 --> 00:42:30,420
and you went everywhere with us.
879
00:42:32,216 --> 00:42:37,256
You just became part of the
Whole family on the road.
880
00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:40,172
- He would have
been around in my life?
881
00:42:40,475 --> 00:42:41,806
- Absolutely.
- For sure.
882
00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:43,933
- Maybe more
than you wanted,
883
00:42:44,228 --> 00:42:47,311
but yes, he would have been
around.
884
00:42:47,607 --> 00:42:49,894
Certainly he would have
taken a strong role
885
00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:53,106
in your life,
there's no doubt in my mind.
886
00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:09,285
- The road and home
life are two different things.
887
00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:11,703
They're two separate ideas.
888
00:43:12,006 --> 00:43:15,089
The road living is totally
a different way of life.
889
00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:18,468
- We toured a lot
and we toured really hard.
890
00:43:18,763 --> 00:43:19,969
- I remember him telling
me on the phone time,
891
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:21,595
"Well, last year, we're
gonna take a break.
892
00:43:21,891 --> 00:43:25,054
" Last year we played
893
00:43:25,353 --> 00:43:28,345
Can you imagine
taking the entire group?
894
00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:32,186
- (Togethefl 278 one-fighters.
895
00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:34,271
- We were beginning to deal with
896
00:43:34,570 --> 00:43:38,108
not only the physical
hardship of being on the road.
897
00:43:38,407 --> 00:43:40,899
It got tough because we
started taking knocks
898
00:43:41,202 --> 00:43:46,743
for always having
songs in the top 40,
899
00:43:47,542 --> 00:43:51,285
so What began as an avant
garde underground thing.
900
00:43:51,587 --> 00:43:54,295
"Hey, have you heard
this band?" kind of buzz.
901
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:58,049
We became very mainstream
very quickly.
902
00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:04,632
- Is this a horn band
with guitar support,
903
00:44:05,518 --> 00:44:11,855
or is this a lead guitarist,
lead singing front man
904
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,517
backed by a horn section?
905
00:44:15,069 --> 00:44:22,066
That was the dynamic
that rubbed, that rubbed,
906
00:44:22,368 --> 00:44:24,234
and created tension,
907
00:44:25,121 --> 00:44:28,739
and the music is
wonderful because of that.
908
00:44:29,041 --> 00:44:32,830
I Waiting for the break of day
909
00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:38,840
I Searching for something to say
910
00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:45,714
I Dancing lights against the sky
911
00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:51,765
I Giving up I close my eyes
912
00:44:53,441 --> 00:44:56,229
- "25 or 6 to 4",
that's probably the one
913
00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:57,892
that was on the radio
all the time,
914
00:44:58,196 --> 00:44:59,436
on FM radio, that was on,
915
00:44:59,739 --> 00:45:01,946
and it had that nice long solo.
916
00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:05,359
I 25 or six to four
917
00:45:06,871 --> 00:45:09,989
- "25 or 6 to 4" is brilliant.
918
00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:18,297
I guess that's the landmark
signature Chicago song for him.
919
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:23,085
I Staring blindly into space
920
00:45:23,387 --> 00:45:26,345
I could never figure out
What the title
921
00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:28,131
of the song was,
922
00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:31,848
because I was stoned.
923
00:45:32,605 --> 00:45:35,017
Is it 25 or 64?
924
00:45:35,483 --> 00:45:39,226
Is it 25 or six two four?
925
00:45:39,528 --> 00:45:42,395
I Wondering how much I can take
926
00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:47,283
I Should have tried
to do some more
927
00:45:48,287 --> 00:45:51,154
- But 25 is like-
- 25 or 64.
928
00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:53,994
- That song-
- But What's 25 mean?
929
00:45:54,293 --> 00:45:57,126
- 25 minutes or 26 minutes
to four in the morning,
930
00:45:57,421 --> 00:45:58,035
and you're trying to decide
931
00:45:58,339 --> 00:46:00,171
whether you should do more.
932
00:46:22,947 --> 00:46:24,108
- It's amazing 'cause he seemed
933
00:46:24,407 --> 00:46:26,990
to take those studio recordings
934
00:46:27,285 --> 00:46:29,902
and bring it to a Whole
new level playing live.
935
00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:32,070
There was a little more
ferocity.
936
00:46:32,373 --> 00:46:36,287
It was live and What
he did in that context
937
00:46:36,585 --> 00:46:39,327
was even greater than the
record.
938
00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,965
Really kind of brought it
to a new place
939
00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:46,922
and fun to watch,
fun to listen to.
940
00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:51,385
- It's a performance
that is right up there
941
00:46:51,684 --> 00:46:54,096
with all the great guitar
solos I've ever heard.
942
00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,438
- It was just like any riff,
really.
943
00:46:59,734 --> 00:47:02,317
Just wanging up and down
that neck like a loony.
944
00:47:02,611 --> 00:47:03,396
It was brilliant.
945
00:47:03,904 --> 00:47:05,645
- Most of the time I ever saw
him,
946
00:47:05,948 --> 00:47:10,658
he had a telecaster, with
stickers for that instrument.
947
00:47:11,746 --> 00:47:13,077
- There was one guitar in
particular
948
00:47:13,372 --> 00:47:17,161
that traveled with us
and it got its own seat,
949
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:19,417
'cause he didn't wanna
put it through
950
00:47:19,712 --> 00:47:22,454
with the equipment
and he didn't wanna
951
00:47:22,757 --> 00:47:26,045
give it to the,
put it on the truck,
952
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:27,584
so it got a seat,
953
00:47:27,887 --> 00:47:29,002
so we would get three seats,
954
00:47:29,305 --> 00:47:31,672
one for Terry and I
and one for the guitar.
955
00:47:31,974 --> 00:47:34,386
It was great, never had
anyone sitting next to us.
956
00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:36,175
- Do you know Where that guitar
is?
957
00:47:36,479 --> 00:47:37,685
With all the Pignose stickers?
958
00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:40,438
- I don't know What
happened to that guitar.
959
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:44,146
- Hank is my dad's
roadie, personal roadie,
960
00:47:44,445 --> 00:47:46,061
and was one of his closest
friends,
961
00:47:46,364 --> 00:47:47,570
and after my dad passed away,
962
00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:50,072
he acquired a lot of my dad's
things.
963
00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:54,202
According to Jim Guercio,
he might have the guitar.
964
00:47:58,292 --> 00:47:59,248
- Your call has been
forwarded
965
00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:01,329
to an automated voice message
system.
966
00:48:02,505 --> 00:48:03,495
- Hi, Trevor.
967
00:48:03,798 --> 00:48:04,754
It's Michelle.
968
00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:06,881
It's been a while since we
talked,
969
00:48:07,176 --> 00:48:12,012
but I'm still interested
in meeting up with you
970
00:48:12,306 --> 00:48:16,345
and seeing if you have some
guitars.
971
00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:19,389
I hope to hear from you 'cause I
know
972
00:48:19,688 --> 00:48:21,554
it's been a While and we
haven't talked or Whatever,
973
00:48:21,857 --> 00:48:25,851
but give me a call.
974
00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:27,814
Hope you're well, bye.
975
00:48:30,324 --> 00:48:32,065
He didn't answer again.
976
00:48:32,868 --> 00:48:34,029
Again.
977
00:48:35,538 --> 00:48:37,950
He really just doesn't
answer my phone call anymore.
978
00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:40,581
I don't really know What to do
979
00:48:40,876 --> 00:48:44,710
but I guess just keep trying.
980
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:49,917
- I could tell you a
story that made us close.
981
00:48:50,219 --> 00:48:52,927
He had just gotten this
brand new Porsche
982
00:48:53,222 --> 00:48:54,587
and it was green so we went out
983
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:57,222
and he started drinking a lot,
984
00:48:58,769 --> 00:49:01,557
and used to have a bad
thing to pull us out,
985
00:49:01,856 --> 00:49:04,188
'cause it stimulates you and-
986
00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:08,484
- We're talking about coke?
- Cocaine.
987
00:49:08,779 --> 00:49:09,940
- Okay, just to
clarify.
988
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,229
- I'm reluctant to say it,
but it's What it is.
989
00:49:11,532 --> 00:49:13,022
It's just What it was.
990
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:16,408
So we drove back and we
were in my neighborhood
991
00:49:16,704 --> 00:49:18,320
and we got up onto Winnetka
992
00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:22,035
and I will never forget, this
was a 35 mile an hour zone,
993
00:49:22,334 --> 00:49:23,950
and he went through all three
gears,
994
00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:26,915
and I figured, we have to be
going 90, 100 miles an hour,
995
00:49:27,214 --> 00:49:28,796
we went up a hill and
at the top of the hill,
996
00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:31,799
turned down to the
right, right at the top,
997
00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,677
well, that car went out
sideways on us,
998
00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:36,462
and we spun around
on the back tires,
999
00:49:36,765 --> 00:49:41,134
hit the curb, rolled it,
end over end and up a hill.
1000
00:49:41,437 --> 00:49:43,394
We were upside down and
I got out of the car
1001
00:49:43,689 --> 00:49:44,303
and these people came up,
1002
00:49:44,607 --> 00:49:45,187
these people are going,
1003
00:49:45,483 --> 00:49:46,848
"I can't believe you're alive."
1004
00:49:47,151 --> 00:49:47,856
I said, "Where's Terry?
1005
00:49:48,152 --> 00:49:49,734
"Terry, Terry, where are you?"
1006
00:49:50,029 --> 00:49:51,190
He goes, "I'm in here."
1007
00:49:51,489 --> 00:49:52,274
I say, "You okay? "
1008
00:49:52,573 --> 00:49:53,438
He says, "Yeah, I'm looking for
my pot.
1009
00:49:53,741 --> 00:49:55,732
"I'll be right out."
1010
00:49:56,035 --> 00:49:57,321
- When I first started
on this journey,
1011
00:49:57,620 --> 00:49:59,236
it was like,
all those kind of questions.
1012
00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:01,654
Was he dark, was he
depressed, was he angry?
1013
00:50:01,957 --> 00:50:05,791
What kind of things
were going on there?
1014
00:50:06,086 --> 00:50:08,418
And I think the reality
of the situation
1015
00:50:08,714 --> 00:50:11,752
is that he just liked to do
drugs
1016
00:50:12,051 --> 00:50:13,917
and drink.
- We all did.
1017
00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:15,585
- I think that was his-
- We all did.
1018
00:50:15,888 --> 00:50:16,673
- Yeah.
- Yeah, we got high.
1019
00:50:16,972 --> 00:50:18,087
We all got high.
1020
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:20,222
Everybody got high.
1021
00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:23,761
The whole audience was
as high as we were
1022
00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:29,061
in those days, but we all
partied.
1023
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,773
We were young and we
were on top of the world.
1024
00:50:38,327 --> 00:50:40,694
- So I remember calling Terry
on the phone
1025
00:50:40,996 --> 00:50:43,909
after a tough tour and I
had just smoked a joint
1026
00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:46,199
and I'm sure he was smoking a
joint,
1027
00:50:46,502 --> 00:50:50,211
and I said, "Terry, I think
that on the next tour,
1028
00:50:50,506 --> 00:50:53,589
"we need to play every
fucking hit we have."
1029
00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:57,548
And he said, "Man,
you're such a hypocrite."
1030
00:50:57,846 --> 00:51:01,805
And I said,
"I just don't think it works
1031
00:51:02,101 --> 00:51:05,219
"just playing What you wanna
play. "
1032
00:51:05,521 --> 00:51:09,014
Terry was such an artist
that he wanted to stay true
1033
00:51:09,316 --> 00:51:11,398
to the original vision of the
band
1034
00:51:11,694 --> 00:51:14,356
which was, "Let's just
play what we wanna play. "
1035
00:51:14,655 --> 00:51:17,613
And he was not happy
at all about being successful
1036
00:51:17,908 --> 00:51:19,990
and having to play the game,
1037
00:51:20,286 --> 00:51:23,119
and he got more and more unhappy
about it.
1038
00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:24,745
- And really Terry was the first
one
1039
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,908
to say, because he didn't
have too much of a filter,
1040
00:51:29,211 --> 00:51:30,292
when he talked.
1041
00:51:32,172 --> 00:51:33,378
He was.
1042
00:51:33,674 --> 00:51:34,414
He'd just spew it out,
1043
00:51:34,717 --> 00:51:35,923
and he would always say,
1044
00:51:36,218 --> 00:51:37,253
"I'm gonna do my own album
1045
00:51:37,553 --> 00:51:41,012
"and none of you fuckers
are gonna play on it."
1046
00:51:41,307 --> 00:51:42,923
It was like, "Okay, I get it.
1047
00:51:43,225 --> 00:51:45,136
"That's fine, man."
1048
00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:48,053
- There is one thing
about your dad you should know.
1049
00:51:48,355 --> 00:51:52,394
I gave him the studio and
said, "There is no rules.
1050
00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:56,061
" Roll the tape, you'll figure it
out."
1051
00:51:56,363 --> 00:51:59,321
And that was a process
that he was coming to terms
1052
00:51:59,617 --> 00:52:01,528
with who he wanted to work with.
1053
00:52:01,827 --> 00:52:04,444
He says, "You know I'm not
doing it with these guys."
1054
00:52:04,747 --> 00:52:08,081
And I said, "You do it
with Whoever you want."
1055
00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:12,369
I don't know, I don't wanna
hurt anybody's relationship.
1056
00:52:13,339 --> 00:52:14,329
He had ideas.
1057
00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:18,841
- I talked to him and the
conversation was about
1058
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:22,003
moving forward in this area of
music
1059
00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:23,637
and maybe forming a new group.
1060
00:52:23,932 --> 00:52:26,594
We were gonna take a year off.
1061
00:52:26,894 --> 00:52:29,727
We needed, we'd been working so
hard.
1062
00:52:30,022 --> 00:52:32,684
I Here I go again
1063
00:52:35,194 --> 00:52:39,279
I Why does the ghost
of love still haunt me
1064
00:52:41,659 --> 00:52:46,244
I It's all been cried about
before
1065
00:52:48,457 --> 00:52:52,542
I It's all been cried about
before
1066
00:52:54,797 --> 00:52:58,006
- I think he didn't
like the music anymore.
1067
00:52:58,300 --> 00:52:59,711
That's fair to say,
1068
00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:02,672
and he certainly wanted a
band with no horns in it,
1069
00:53:02,971 --> 00:53:04,132
that's fair to say.
1070
00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:07,514
And so that's Why,
deep down in my heart,
1071
00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:11,474
I know that Terry died, the
way he died was an accident,
1072
00:53:11,772 --> 00:53:14,639
'cause he was starting
a solo album that night
1073
00:53:14,942 --> 00:53:17,809
and there were
a couple of people around
1074
00:53:18,112 --> 00:53:19,477
that I think encouraged it,
1075
00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:23,023
and it's too bad
because he pulled away
1076
00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:25,657
even from the guys in
the group a little bit,
1077
00:53:25,953 --> 00:53:28,991
and started spending more
time with these strangers.
1078
00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:32,407
- He was hanging out with a
guy who was a drug dealer.
1079
00:53:32,918 --> 00:53:34,408
He was a bad guy.
1080
00:53:34,712 --> 00:53:36,419
- And we had this thing in the
band
1081
00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:40,252
because we should have
done an intervention,
1082
00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:42,713
but we had this mindset in the
band,
1083
00:53:43,011 --> 00:53:45,378
"Well, we're all men.
We know our limitations."
1084
00:53:45,681 --> 00:53:47,217
That was bullshit, we didn't.
1085
00:53:47,516 --> 00:53:48,722
Because it was out of hand.
1086
00:53:49,017 --> 00:53:50,428
Drugs were so out of hand
in our band
1087
00:53:50,728 --> 00:53:53,220
at that time, Michelle,
it was scary.
1088
00:53:53,522 --> 00:53:56,480
We had a meeting with him,
1089
00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:04,530
maybe six weeks before it
happened at the Caribou Ranch.
1090
00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:07,112
- I had the Whole group in there
1091
00:54:07,411 --> 00:54:11,029
and I said, "This guy is
gonna be dead in six months.
1092
00:54:11,331 --> 00:54:12,867
"These drugs are out of control.
1093
00:54:13,167 --> 00:54:16,159
"I don't wanna contribute to
this,
1094
00:54:16,462 --> 00:54:18,248
"what you're doing
with your success."
1095
00:54:18,547 --> 00:54:19,503
- And he said, "No, don't worry.
1096
00:54:19,798 --> 00:54:21,084
"I got it under control.
1097
00:54:21,383 --> 00:54:22,293
"It's all okay. "
1098
00:54:22,593 --> 00:54:23,583
- It was not good.
1099
00:54:23,886 --> 00:54:25,627
He wasn't the same guy,
1100
00:54:26,722 --> 00:54:29,555
and I'll never forget
what he said.
1101
00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:34,514
He got exorcized, he was upset,
1102
00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:36,520
and he said,
"The only one that can
1103
00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:38,647
"say anything to me is Gert.
1104
00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:40,228
"It's like the pot
calling the kettle black.
1105
00:54:40,527 --> 00:54:43,519
"You guys do more fucking
drugs than me, fuck you."
1106
00:54:43,822 --> 00:54:44,778
And he walked out of control
room.
1107
00:54:45,073 --> 00:54:49,567
- Terry had a hard
time, and we all did,
1108
00:54:49,870 --> 00:54:53,204
but he was, especially
with the fame part of this.
1109
00:54:53,499 --> 00:54:54,204
It bugged him.
1110
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:55,786
It bugged probably all of us,
1111
00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:57,666
but he had a hard time
dealing with that.
1112
00:54:57,961 --> 00:54:59,167
- Some people handle it
better than others
1113
00:54:59,463 --> 00:55:00,453
because it really messed with
him.
1114
00:55:00,756 --> 00:55:03,498
He was a really down to earth
person
1115
00:55:03,801 --> 00:55:06,384
and a very genuinely good
person,
1116
00:55:09,056 --> 00:55:11,923
the trappings of success
trapped him.
1117
00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:17,679
- We decided that we would
just move out to Malibu,
1118
00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:19,096
build a house.
1119
00:55:19,399 --> 00:55:21,857
He would start a band, no horns,
1120
00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:25,941
just guitars, drums, bass,
just basics,
1121
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,481
just really hardcore soulful
music.
1122
00:55:28,784 --> 00:55:30,366
The band was gonna
be called Cook County.
1123
00:55:30,661 --> 00:55:32,447
He wanted to take Cook County
on the road,
1124
00:55:32,746 --> 00:55:35,454
and in that time was
when he really started
1125
00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:38,582
getting in trouble with drugs,
1126
00:55:38,877 --> 00:55:40,914
and we started growing apart,
1127
00:55:41,213 --> 00:55:46,799
and he just started
becoming really reclusive,
1128
00:55:47,094 --> 00:55:49,426
spending a lot of time by
himself.
1129
00:55:49,721 --> 00:55:51,803
I could sense something was off,
1130
00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:53,635
something was way off,
he wasn't happy.
1131
00:55:53,934 --> 00:55:55,345
"If we can just get
through this album,
1132
00:55:55,644 --> 00:55:57,100
"I'll take the garbage out."
1133
00:55:57,396 --> 00:55:58,352
I remember him saying this to
me.
1134
00:55:58,647 --> 00:56:00,103
"I will take the garbage out.
1135
00:56:00,399 --> 00:56:01,639
"I am here for you.
1136
00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:03,057
"We're gonna start over again.
1137
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,771
"We're building this house.
1138
00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:08,779
"Our baby's gonna be
a healthy, happy girl,
1139
00:56:09,074 --> 00:56:11,486
"and we're gonna move forward."
1140
00:56:12,661 --> 00:56:14,652
That was the last time I saw
him,
1141
00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:18,743
and that was
the last time I saw him.
1142
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:31,756
- I had talked
to Terry in the morning
1143
00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:34,217
and he says, "Okay, I'll
go over to Don's house,
1144
00:56:34,516 --> 00:56:36,473
"and I'll wait there and
then my Wife's working
1145
00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:38,304
"and when I get home,
I'll come and get you
1146
00:56:38,604 --> 00:56:39,719
"or come over. "
1147
00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:41,387
And when I got back from the
city,
1148
00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:43,601
I called over there 'cause I was
late.
1149
00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:47,565
I called over to Don's house
and a policeman answered,
1150
00:56:47,863 --> 00:56:50,696
and I just lost it.
1151
00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:54,154
And later on, I grabbed Don,
1152
00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:58,697
and I says to him,
"Tell me what happened."
1153
00:56:59,249 --> 00:57:02,992
He says that it was late
morning or something
1154
00:57:03,295 --> 00:57:04,535
and Terry's sitting on the couch
1155
00:57:04,838 --> 00:57:06,875
and Don was talking to him
1156
00:57:07,174 --> 00:57:08,039
and he got up and he turned
around
1157
00:57:08,342 --> 00:57:10,083
and he walked away and Don says,
1158
00:57:10,385 --> 00:57:11,967
"You know,
you should put the gun away. "
1159
00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:13,377
Terry says, "Yeah."
1160
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,262
And Terry was playing with the
gun,
1161
00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:17,844
that stupid little automatic he
had.
1162
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:19,679
Well, when you've been
up for a couple days,
1163
00:57:19,978 --> 00:57:23,016
things get discombobulated,
the processes,
1164
00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:24,851
and what happened was,
Terry took all the bullets
1165
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:26,231
out of the gun.
1166
00:57:27,527 --> 00:57:28,938
With an automatic,
1167
00:57:30,572 --> 00:57:33,064
he ejected all the bullets
out of the gun,
1168
00:57:33,367 --> 00:57:38,237
then he let the clip go,
left one in the chamber,
1169
00:57:38,538 --> 00:57:40,199
so he made a mistake.
1170
00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:42,824
There was one in the chamber
1171
00:57:43,126 --> 00:57:45,788
and he put the empty clip back.
1172
00:57:46,088 --> 00:57:49,251
Terry thought the gun
was empty, period.
1173
00:57:51,009 --> 00:57:52,249
And he just played with the gun,
1174
00:57:52,552 --> 00:57:54,338
and he just went like
that, anytime, boom, boom.
1175
00:57:54,638 --> 00:57:57,130
- The band Chicago
suffered a loss today.
1176
00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:59,139
- Terry Kath, the
guitarist of the successful
1177
00:57:59,434 --> 00:58:01,095
pop band Chicago died today.
1178
00:58:06,566 --> 00:58:09,649
- Terry's death
shocked fans across the world.
1179
00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:23,785
- So it was my dad's birthday
last week,
1180
00:58:24,084 --> 00:58:26,371
like a week ago, and
there's balloons there
1181
00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:30,208
for my dad's birthday,
how cool is that.
1182
00:58:49,818 --> 00:58:52,230
Terry Alan Kath, 1946 to 1978,
1183
00:58:54,197 --> 00:58:56,404
composer, guitarist, singer.
1184
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,112
The memory of love he left on
eaflh
1185
00:58:59,411 --> 00:59:00,901
all the world has shared.
1186
00:59:01,204 --> 00:59:03,320
Rare and gifted gentleman Whose
fiches
1187
00:59:03,623 --> 00:59:06,456
were a symphony of
songs for young and old
1188
00:59:06,752 --> 00:59:09,244
because he cared, our loved one.
1189
00:59:17,888 --> 00:59:19,094
Is this it?
1190
00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:20,970
Is that the gate?
1191
00:59:21,641 --> 00:59:22,972
- Nice to meet you.
1192
00:59:23,268 --> 00:59:24,303
Nice to meet you.
1193
00:59:24,603 --> 00:59:26,344
- Hi, so good to see you.
1194
00:59:26,646 --> 00:59:27,727
- God, you look great, wow.
1195
00:59:28,023 --> 00:59:30,139
You guys are the last
people to be on this ranch.
1196
00:59:30,442 --> 00:59:31,557
- To be on this
ranch.
1197
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:33,976
- And the last
cameras ever filmed anything.
1198
00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:35,769
- Well, here we are.
1199
00:59:40,535 --> 00:59:44,028
This was our playground,
let me tell you.
1200
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,407
- Look at
this, this is amazing.
1201
00:59:47,709 --> 00:59:49,074
This is so beautiful.
1202
00:59:49,377 --> 00:59:50,037
Oh wow.
1203
00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:55,581
Amazing to be back here, isn't
it?
1204
00:59:57,385 --> 00:59:59,342
- I know Where we are.
1205
01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:02,930
This is the house that
Terry and I lived in.
1206
01:00:03,642 --> 01:00:04,882
This is crazy.
1207
01:00:05,185 --> 01:00:06,801
- This is the house?
- Yes.
1208
01:00:07,104 --> 01:00:07,718
- That's it.
1209
01:00:08,021 --> 01:00:09,056
- Oh, cool.
1210
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:14,266
Oh, this is so weird.
1211
01:00:15,779 --> 01:00:17,986
Oh, this is so cool.
- It's so weird
1212
01:00:18,281 --> 01:00:19,362
being with you.
1213
01:00:21,535 --> 01:00:22,866
- This is the room
Where Terry wrote
1214
01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:25,368
"Song of the Evergreens."
- Yes!
1215
01:00:27,082 --> 01:00:28,948
- Looking right out that Window.
1216
01:00:29,251 --> 01:00:31,788
I I woke up that morning
1217
01:00:33,004 --> 01:00:36,042
I Feeling so rested and young
1218
01:00:36,341 --> 01:00:38,002
- Oh, this is so cool.
1219
01:00:39,261 --> 01:00:41,377
Oh, Mom.
- You know What that is?
1220
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,547
That little brown spot?
- Where?
1221
01:00:44,850 --> 01:00:46,716
- That's a patched bullet whole.
1222
01:00:47,018 --> 01:00:48,725
Yeah, one went off by mistake.
1223
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:51,682
We had our own little world up
here.
1224
01:00:51,982 --> 01:00:52,892
- No, you did.
1225
01:00:53,191 --> 01:00:54,352
- It was wonderful.
- It was really great.
1226
01:00:54,651 --> 01:00:56,267
- There was music, food and
nature.
1227
01:00:56,570 --> 01:01:02,065
What a place to spend the first
year of your life together.
1228
01:01:02,367 --> 01:01:04,199
- Yes, life with him.
- Yeah.
1229
01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:05,108
- This is it.
1230
01:01:05,412 --> 01:01:06,117
His personality.
1231
01:01:06,413 --> 01:01:06,993
- Look at the face.
- Isn't it?
1232
01:01:07,289 --> 01:01:08,199
- You look like him.
1233
01:01:08,498 --> 01:01:10,239
- She does.
1234
01:01:10,542 --> 01:01:12,203
- Wow.
- She does look like her dad.
1235
01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:14,459
- Those eyes are his.
1236
01:01:14,754 --> 01:01:16,586
His eyes, boy the smile.
1237
01:01:16,882 --> 01:01:19,044
It's really beautiful.
1238
01:01:19,342 --> 01:01:19,956
- It was meant to be.
1239
01:01:20,260 --> 01:01:21,045
Well, he's here with us now.
1240
01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:21,924
- Yeah, he is.
1241
01:01:22,220 --> 01:01:23,176
- To meet his grandchildren.
1242
01:01:23,471 --> 01:01:26,839
- Thank you, great spirit.
- That's right.
1243
01:01:27,142 --> 01:01:28,883
Oh, wow, this is great.
1244
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,181
Coming back here.
1245
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,687
- Wait 'til you see,
Terry's daughter, Terry,
1246
01:01:34,983 --> 01:01:35,848
we'll see you.
1247
01:01:36,151 --> 01:01:37,482
Come on over, bye.
1248
01:01:37,777 --> 01:01:38,858
- It's amazing.
1249
01:01:46,369 --> 01:01:49,862
- It's amazing to bring them
here.
1250
01:01:50,165 --> 01:01:52,406
I wasn't gonna do it Without
'em.
1251
01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:53,699
Oh my God, look at this.
1252
01:01:54,002 --> 01:01:55,959
Is this the studio?
1253
01:01:56,254 --> 01:01:56,994
Wow.
1254
01:01:57,297 --> 01:01:59,083
- I was explaining to Hamish
that
1255
01:01:59,382 --> 01:02:01,498
that was all glass and
they would stand back
1256
01:02:01,801 --> 01:02:03,633
there and record
and the sofa was there.
1257
01:02:03,929 --> 01:02:05,511
We would always sit here.
1258
01:02:05,805 --> 01:02:07,091
That was all glass.
1259
01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:08,972
The guys would be behind
that glass recording.
1260
01:02:09,267 --> 01:02:11,884
Look how beautiful this way.
1261
01:02:12,187 --> 01:02:13,552
Especially in that day.
1262
01:02:13,855 --> 01:02:15,311
Look how pretty it was.
1263
01:02:15,607 --> 01:02:17,598
Fireplace was always roaring.
1264
01:02:17,901 --> 01:02:23,738
Wow, look how beautiful
it still looks, wow.
1265
01:02:24,699 --> 01:02:26,531
Oh look at this.
1266
01:02:27,869 --> 01:02:29,610
Dennis, he was such a trip.
1267
01:02:29,913 --> 01:02:31,654
He was a fun guy.
1268
01:02:31,957 --> 01:02:33,447
- Yeah, he was.
- Oh, my God.
1269
01:02:34,251 --> 01:02:35,707
- What, that's the actual flag
1270
01:02:36,002 --> 01:02:36,992
from the album.
- Yep.
1271
01:02:37,295 --> 01:02:39,286
- Well, it's great that
this part survived,
1272
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:42,627
'cause this is so
wonderful to be here again.
1273
01:02:42,926 --> 01:02:44,041
It's beautiful.
1274
01:02:44,344 --> 01:02:46,881
Let's see this video,
come sit with us, Hamish.
1275
01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:49,046
I can't take anymore of this.
1276
01:02:50,558 --> 01:02:51,889
Oh.
1277
01:02:52,185 --> 01:02:55,018
- This was a
Dr. Pepper special done in '73.
1278
01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:58,055
- I remember,
this was really fun.
1279
01:02:58,358 --> 01:02:59,848
- This is hilarious.
1280
01:03:00,151 --> 01:03:02,142
- Oh my God, yeah.
1281
01:03:04,281 --> 01:03:05,396
Yeah.
1282
01:03:20,297 --> 01:03:21,958
- They were the greatest
band in the fucking world.
1283
01:03:22,257 --> 01:03:24,419
- That's true, true.
1284
01:03:25,677 --> 01:03:29,011
Look at Terry.
1285
01:03:30,598 --> 01:03:33,590
- The crazy thing, too,
about being there,
1286
01:03:33,893 --> 01:03:37,261
being nostalgic with
my mother is one thing,
1287
01:03:37,564 --> 01:03:39,680
but all these guys, this is
the last day they'll be here
1288
01:03:39,983 --> 01:03:41,314
as well, you know?
1289
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,311
They literally are
gonna lock the gate
1290
01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:47,604
and pass over the key
when we leave here,
1291
01:03:47,907 --> 01:03:50,399
so watching those videos
in that room
1292
01:03:50,702 --> 01:03:53,490
with all those guys, and I
was looking at their faces,
1293
01:03:53,788 --> 01:03:56,450
I was like, "Oh my gosh,
this is it for them as well."
1294
01:03:56,750 --> 01:04:00,744
What a crazy moment to sit
and be a part of, you know?
1295
01:04:03,715 --> 01:04:05,331
I feel transported.
1296
01:04:08,803 --> 01:04:10,794
I Tell me
1297
01:04:15,310 --> 01:04:18,803
I About the rain
1298
01:04:24,235 --> 01:04:26,602
I Tell me
1299
01:04:30,408 --> 01:04:35,448
I About the fields
1300
01:04:39,626 --> 01:04:45,338
I Tell me about the plan
1301
01:04:49,552 --> 01:04:51,919
So if you could call me
back, that'd be great.
1302
01:04:52,222 --> 01:04:55,681
I'd love to hear from you,
thanks, bye.
1303
01:04:55,975 --> 01:04:58,216
Trevor won't get back to me.
1304
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,477
It's driving me nuts.
1305
01:05:00,772 --> 01:05:01,557
Like, seriously.
1306
01:05:01,856 --> 01:05:03,767
I guess in terms
of finding the guitar,
1307
01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:06,229
I think what we need
to do is go to Florida,
1308
01:05:06,528 --> 01:05:09,236
because my uncle said
that my grandpa
1309
01:05:09,531 --> 01:05:13,445
took some guitars and he
might have that guitar,
1310
01:05:13,743 --> 01:05:14,983
the Pignose guitar.
1311
01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:17,118
My grandfather passed away
a while back,
1312
01:05:17,414 --> 01:05:21,749
but his Wife has kept all
this stuff for me there,
1313
01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:24,660
cross our fingers that
the guitar is there.
1314
01:05:26,005 --> 01:05:27,871
- It is so wonderful
that you're here
1315
01:05:28,174 --> 01:05:31,883
and are finally gonna
get rid of the guitars.
1316
01:05:32,178 --> 01:05:33,589
- Yeah, she's nervous
about having them
1317
01:05:33,888 --> 01:05:34,798
in her house.
1318
01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:36,634
She actually said that
every now and again
1319
01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:40,471
people call asking if
she wants to sell them
1320
01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:44,013
and she just tells them
they're not here.
1321
01:05:44,691 --> 01:05:45,772
- They are not here.
1322
01:05:46,067 --> 01:05:47,353
I don't know Where they are.
1323
01:05:47,652 --> 01:05:51,020
They are in storage,
but I don't know Where.
1324
01:05:51,322 --> 01:05:53,404
- The shape is interesting.
1325
01:05:55,034 --> 01:05:56,866
Should we open it here?
1326
01:05:57,287 --> 01:05:58,493
It's really small.
1327
01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:01,450
I don't know too much
about guitars.
1328
01:06:01,749 --> 01:06:05,162
It looks like, ovation.
1329
01:06:07,005 --> 01:06:08,336
What was that?
1330
01:06:08,631 --> 01:06:10,417
Not that small actually,
that's pretty.
1331
01:06:10,717 --> 01:06:14,301
This is model number 16,244.
1332
01:06:16,389 --> 01:06:17,754
Very nice condition.
1333
01:06:18,057 --> 01:06:20,469
Very well kept, good job Alicia.
1334
01:06:20,768 --> 01:06:21,929
- Yes.
1335
01:06:22,228 --> 01:06:23,889
- Grandpa didn't
play any of these, did he?
1336
01:06:24,189 --> 01:06:26,851
- No, no, he never did.
1337
01:06:27,150 --> 01:06:28,015
- 80 would you say
1338
01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:30,275
that my dad was the last one
to play it?
1339
01:06:30,570 --> 01:06:31,355
- That's right.
1340
01:06:31,654 --> 01:06:33,770
And now, I never open it,
1341
01:06:34,073 --> 01:06:37,361
so it's like you're putting
your fingers
1342
01:06:37,660 --> 01:06:39,822
right on top of his.
1343
01:06:41,748 --> 01:06:44,115
All these things here.
- Wow, look at that.
1344
01:06:44,417 --> 01:06:45,282
- I know it's a treasure,
1345
01:06:45,585 --> 01:06:47,667
but now it's going to your
hands,
1346
01:06:47,962 --> 01:06:50,374
and I'm gonna be relieved.
1347
01:06:50,673 --> 01:06:54,917
- Wow, look at this case, jeez.
1348
01:06:58,848 --> 01:06:59,758
Oh wow.
1349
01:07:00,058 --> 01:07:02,516
Look at that.
- That is an old one.
1350
01:07:02,810 --> 01:07:03,675
- Thing is raw.
1351
01:07:03,978 --> 01:07:05,184
It looks like it was ready
to get rebuilt,
1352
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,812
all the hardware is out of it.
1353
01:07:12,904 --> 01:07:13,860
Gibson.
1354
01:07:14,155 --> 01:07:16,396
- Item number two.
1355
01:07:17,325 --> 01:07:19,191
- Yeah, there's two more?
1356
01:07:19,494 --> 01:07:21,826
Oh my god.
- Okay, this is secret.
1357
01:07:22,121 --> 01:07:23,907
And even if the thief came
1358
01:07:24,207 --> 01:07:26,539
and say,
"Where do you have the guitars?"
1359
01:07:26,834 --> 01:07:29,201
They were never gonna find them.
1360
01:07:29,504 --> 01:07:32,087
- There's one, yeah.
1361
01:07:32,382 --> 01:07:33,838
Careful 'cause it's kind of
open.
1362
01:07:34,133 --> 01:07:35,965
- Okay.
1363
01:07:36,261 --> 01:07:38,343
- This is a beautiful case right
here.
1364
01:07:38,638 --> 01:07:40,379
- Okay, I take the
other one.
1365
01:07:40,682 --> 01:07:41,547
- Okay.
1366
01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:44,216
God, I don't know
which one to open first.
1367
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:45,759
That one says Fender on it.
1368
01:07:46,062 --> 01:07:47,894
- You got this first.
1369
01:07:48,648 --> 01:07:49,604
What's that?
1370
01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:50,980
What does it say on that one?
1371
01:07:51,276 --> 01:07:54,018
- This one
says Fender Stratocaster,
1372
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,234
and this one says Terry's
favorite.
1373
01:07:59,033 --> 01:08:01,024
So which one first?
1374
01:08:01,327 --> 01:08:03,318
Jason says this one first.
1375
01:08:05,582 --> 01:08:06,663
- These traveled with
him
1376
01:08:06,958 --> 01:08:07,868
when he went to play
1377
01:08:08,167 --> 01:08:10,408
because they got the USA.
1378
01:08:10,712 --> 01:08:13,875
- Look at this case, oh,
beautiful, wow.
1379
01:08:17,302 --> 01:08:20,215
I Just roll on home
1380
01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:28,844
Number three is on it.
1381
01:08:29,397 --> 01:08:30,637
That's insane.
1382
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:32,560
Number three.
1383
01:08:34,277 --> 01:08:35,688
This doesn't open.
1384
01:08:39,574 --> 01:08:40,689
Yes!
1385
01:08:41,743 --> 01:08:42,824
Score!
1386
01:08:44,245 --> 01:08:46,828
Yes, you don't even know Alicia.
1387
01:08:48,416 --> 01:08:50,032
Finally.
1388
01:08:50,335 --> 01:08:51,791
That's the guitar.
1389
01:08:54,297 --> 01:08:58,256
I And I'm trying to get along
1390
01:08:58,551 --> 01:08:59,757
Super stoked right now.
1391
01:09:00,053 --> 01:09:01,964
The search is over.
1392
01:09:02,263 --> 01:09:04,220
- And your grandpa
is smiling.
1393
01:09:04,515 --> 01:09:05,175
- Yeah.
1394
01:09:06,434 --> 01:09:09,927
- Because that's
What he wanted.
1395
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:13,267
He always say, "She's
gonna have the guitars
1396
01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:16,308
"when she knows
the value of them."
1397
01:09:19,614 --> 01:09:21,776
- I know the value now, huh?
1398
01:09:22,075 --> 01:09:23,406
The search is over.
1399
01:09:23,701 --> 01:09:26,033
Last touched by my dad,
look at that.
1400
01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:27,239
That's crazy.
1401
01:09:28,539 --> 01:09:30,029
Check out the back.
1402
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,365
- Very handy.
1403
01:09:32,669 --> 01:09:35,001
- I don't even
know What's going on there.
1404
01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:36,001
- Me neither.
1405
01:09:36,297 --> 01:09:37,708
- That's so
brilliant.
1406
01:09:38,007 --> 01:09:40,920
There's tape with picks in it.
1407
01:09:41,844 --> 01:09:43,835
Mission accomplished, Alicia.
1408
01:09:44,972 --> 01:09:45,882
- Yes.
1409
01:09:52,313 --> 01:09:57,729
I Sleepless hours and
dreamless nights and far aways
1410
01:09:58,236 --> 01:10:05,734
I 000000000, Wishing you were
here
1411
01:10:06,035 --> 01:10:11,451
I Heaven knows and lord
it shows when I'm away
1412
01:10:12,250 --> 01:10:19,623
I 000000000, Wishing you were
here
1413
01:10:21,092 --> 01:10:23,834
- One of the regrets was that
I didn't do more for him.
1414
01:10:24,137 --> 01:10:25,673
- Yeah.
1415
01:10:27,265 --> 01:10:29,256
'Cause I really miss him.
1416
01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:33,393
- I still feel so close to
Terry.
1417
01:10:33,688 --> 01:10:35,679
I still dream about Terry.
1418
01:10:40,945 --> 01:10:46,566
Every show I sing
"Saturday in the Park"
1419
01:10:46,993 --> 01:10:51,453
and there's a verse Where
I'm writing about Terry,
1420
01:10:51,748 --> 01:10:57,414
and I always look upstairs
when I'm singing every night
1421
01:10:57,712 --> 01:11:00,454
in the show, so he's always with
me.
1422
01:11:00,757 --> 01:11:02,464
I really miss him.
1423
01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:07,089
- When that tragedy happened,
1424
01:11:07,388 --> 01:11:09,095
when he left us so early,
1425
01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:13,759
it was as Walt said, it
was divine intervention,
1426
01:11:14,061 --> 01:11:17,929
it was Terry's
and God's way perhaps
1427
01:11:18,232 --> 01:11:23,978
of giving us the strength to
regroup,
1428
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,068
to realize What's really
important in our lives
1429
01:11:27,366 --> 01:11:30,859
and to move on and
that's by virtue of that.
1430
01:11:31,954 --> 01:11:33,911
He was almost a martyr
in that degree.
1431
01:11:34,207 --> 01:11:37,040
That's Why we're still
here 45 years later.
1432
01:11:37,335 --> 01:11:38,666
- He saved us.
1433
01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:39,792
He saved us.
1434
01:11:40,755 --> 01:11:41,961
- I'm crying.
1435
01:11:42,256 --> 01:11:43,872
- Sorry.
1436
01:11:44,509 --> 01:11:45,340
Can't help it.
- No, it's true.
1437
01:11:45,635 --> 01:11:46,591
- He did.
1438
01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:50,886
- But I say one thing,
1439
01:11:51,182 --> 01:11:55,050
and it's to replace
Terry, it took two guys.
1440
01:11:55,353 --> 01:11:57,185
And nothing will ever replace
him.
1441
01:11:57,480 --> 01:11:58,845
- Nothing has happened since
then
1442
01:11:59,148 --> 01:12:01,059
that has been more difficult
than dealing with that
1443
01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:04,101
so the other stuff, no matter
how difficult it has been,
1444
01:12:04,403 --> 01:12:08,397
it was easier to get through it
than losing Terry.
1445
01:12:11,077 --> 01:12:14,695
- As a creative person,
he wasn't done yet,
1446
01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:19,207
and he was up and coming
1447
01:12:19,502 --> 01:12:22,039
and a lot of people
were noticing him.
1448
01:12:22,338 --> 01:12:23,578
- I would hate to be the guy
1449
01:12:23,881 --> 01:12:25,713
that had to walk in
afterwards and fill that slot
1450
01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:27,919
'cause it's unfillable.
1451
01:12:28,219 --> 01:12:29,254
There's no one like him since,
1452
01:12:29,554 --> 01:12:30,419
and I really think it's
wonderful
1453
01:12:30,721 --> 01:12:32,177
that you guys are doing this
1454
01:12:32,473 --> 01:12:33,508
and there's gonna be
some awareness
1455
01:12:33,808 --> 01:12:35,298
and maybe some younger
cats will go back and go,
1456
01:12:35,601 --> 01:12:38,844
"Dig this guy, Terry Kath,
Who's an unsung guitar
1457
01:12:39,146 --> 01:12:41,103
"giant hero legend, that should
1458
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,482
" be getting a lot more press
than he is."
1459
01:12:44,777 --> 01:12:47,519
- That's the tragedy, that
which could have been.
1460
01:12:47,822 --> 01:12:49,062
- That which
could have been.
1461
01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,823
- That's the ball game.
1462
01:12:52,118 --> 01:12:55,031
We made some great records.
1463
01:12:55,663 --> 01:12:58,826
We had some great records.
- Definitely.
1464
01:13:00,334 --> 01:13:01,665
- I miss him.
1465
01:13:14,265 --> 01:13:18,429
- When I was 12 years old,
I was on my way
1466
01:13:18,728 --> 01:13:21,436
to a hockey practice
with my older brother
1467
01:13:21,731 --> 01:13:22,846
and for all intents and
purposes,
1468
01:13:23,149 --> 01:13:25,857
he raised me
when I was a young man,
1469
01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:27,608
and we're driving to practice
1470
01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:30,271
and some news came over the
radio,
1471
01:13:30,573 --> 01:13:31,938
and it was terrible news,
1472
01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:34,528
and my brother pulled
off the highway,
1473
01:13:34,827 --> 01:13:36,659
and he put his head in his hands
1474
01:13:36,954 --> 01:13:37,989
and he started to weep,
1475
01:13:38,289 --> 01:13:40,155
and I had never seen
my brother cry
1476
01:13:40,458 --> 01:13:42,620
to that point and I've
never seen him cry since
1477
01:13:42,919 --> 01:13:45,627
and What had come over the radio
1478
01:13:45,922 --> 01:13:48,584
was that a really brilliant
musician
1479
01:13:48,883 --> 01:13:53,172
and songwriter,
a man named Terry Kath,
1480
01:13:53,471 --> 01:13:55,382
who was in a band called Chicago
1481
01:13:55,681 --> 01:13:57,922
had prematurely passed away.
1482
01:13:58,225 --> 01:14:01,513
And it was such
a profound moment for me
1483
01:14:01,812 --> 01:14:04,725
to see my brother so deeply
moved
1484
01:14:05,024 --> 01:14:08,142
that I never forgot how important
this man must have been.
1485
01:14:08,444 --> 01:14:11,061
This was the last song
that he performed live,
1486
01:14:11,364 --> 01:14:13,355
and he dedicated it
to at that time
1487
01:14:13,658 --> 01:14:16,650
his beautiful, beautiful
three year old daughter,
1488
01:14:16,953 --> 01:14:19,320
and the lyrics are very simple.
1489
01:14:19,622 --> 01:14:22,489
Little one, it's so nice
to have you near me.
1490
01:14:22,792 --> 01:14:25,250
To feel once again the
love you bring dear.
1491
01:14:25,544 --> 01:14:29,458
Oh my little one, I am so
sorry for the pain you felt.
1492
01:14:29,757 --> 01:14:33,341
Say the word Daddy and
I'll make it disappear.
1493
01:14:33,636 --> 01:14:36,003
Oh my little one,
bring your love here.
1494
01:14:36,305 --> 01:14:38,467
Little one, I need you near.
1495
01:14:39,475 --> 01:14:42,467
Little one, don't live
in fear of the future,
1496
01:14:42,770 --> 01:14:44,556
'cause I will always be there.
1497
01:14:44,855 --> 01:14:47,847
Oh my little one,
let your love flow.
1498
01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:49,390
Oh my little one.
1499
01:14:50,027 --> 01:14:52,234
From your father to you.
1500
01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:54,937
I I hope you understand
1501
01:14:55,241 --> 01:14:56,276
- Finding my dad's
guitar
1502
01:14:56,575 --> 01:14:58,407
does not conclude my journey.
1503
01:14:58,703 --> 01:14:59,943
In fact, this is only the
beginning
1504
01:15:00,246 --> 01:15:02,783
of getting to know my dad.
1505
01:15:03,082 --> 01:15:06,416
I realized that he lives on through
those that play his music,
1506
01:15:06,711 --> 01:15:08,918
through his grandchildren,
1507
01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:11,955
and every time someone
shares a story about him.
1508
01:15:12,258 --> 01:15:15,922
The reality is, I don't
want the journey to end
1509
01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:19,758
and I hope that everyday I can
find a moment to honor him,
1510
01:15:20,057 --> 01:15:24,051
and through this film,
Terry Kath's legacy lives on.
1511
01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:30,941
I Put your love close,
precious one
1512
01:15:31,235 --> 01:15:34,819
I Like a flower you'll grow,
little one
1513
01:15:35,114 --> 01:15:41,326
I Someday you'll have
your own little one
1514
01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:45,034
I And you will always be there
1515
01:15:47,668 --> 01:15:51,081
- Ladies and
gentlemen, Rob Thomas.
1516
01:15:54,967 --> 01:15:57,504
- In 1967, a group of
musicians came together,
1517
01:15:57,803 --> 01:16:00,716
and they were weaving their
city's diverse musical
1518
01:16:01,015 --> 01:16:04,383
influences into one bold,
beautiful sound.
1519
01:16:04,685 --> 01:16:07,973
It was a sound that was built
on a tight R and B beat,
1520
01:16:08,272 --> 01:16:12,186
beefed up with big-band
horns and jolted with riffs
1521
01:16:12,485 --> 01:16:13,771
from Terry Kath,
who is one of the best
1522
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:16,357
and most underrated guitar
players of all time.
1523
01:16:19,408 --> 01:16:20,614
These guys are legends.
1524
01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:22,901
They are true musicians,
and they are a bad ass
1525
01:16:23,204 --> 01:16:25,241
rock band with horns.
1526
01:16:25,539 --> 01:16:29,703
It is my honor to finally
induct Terry Kath,
1527
01:16:30,002 --> 01:16:33,916
Peter Cetera, Danny
Seraphine, Walter Parazaider,
1528
01:16:34,215 --> 01:16:37,503
Lee Loughnane, James
Pankow, and Robert Lamm,
1529
01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:41,670
Chicago into the
Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.
1530
01:16:45,059 --> 01:16:50,145
- I'm trying to imagine What
my dad would say right now,
1531
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,431
since I'm accepting on his
behalf,
1532
01:16:53,734 --> 01:16:56,522
and he wasn't too into fame,
1533
01:16:56,821 --> 01:16:59,529
but I think he would
be beyond honored
1534
01:16:59,824 --> 01:17:02,657
and extremely excited
to be recognized
1535
01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:05,068
along with his
very talented band mates
1536
01:17:05,371 --> 01:17:08,909
for this great honor in the
Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame,
1537
01:17:09,208 --> 01:17:12,872
and I'd just like to thank you
guys
1538
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:14,660
for letting me get to know my
dad
1539
01:17:14,964 --> 01:17:16,420
through his music and the fans,
1540
01:17:16,715 --> 01:17:18,706
I see you with the Terry
Kath sign over there.
1541
01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:26,306
Thank you Hall of Fame
for getting Chicago in
1542
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,762
and honoring this amazing band.
1543
01:17:31,272 --> 01:17:32,603
- Thank you.
1544
01:17:42,658 --> 01:17:45,776
I Today when I woke
1545
01:17:46,078 --> 01:17:50,072
I The morning blues hung over me
1546
01:17:52,168 --> 01:17:57,038
I So I looked it straight in the
eye
1547
01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:07,096
I I jumped into the
shower for about an hour
1548
01:18:08,142 --> 01:18:10,884
I Oh, it was fine
1549
01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:16,473
I Yeah, it helps me all the time
1550
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,647
I It's soothing to my mind
1551
01:18:20,946 --> 01:18:28,946
I Just to see those blues
go slipping down the drain
1552
01:18:34,084 --> 01:18:37,827
I Now I usually have my
breakfast
1553
01:18:38,130 --> 01:18:42,124
I Which consists of taste and
smell
1554
01:18:43,886 --> 01:18:49,928
I Yeah, I could eat it all day
long
1555
01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:56,938
I But I only have one prayer
1556
01:18:57,233 --> 01:19:01,602
I And I can find it way out here
1557
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:08,366
I So I have to take a pass
1558
01:19:09,536 --> 01:19:11,698
I Save it for some pass
1559
01:19:11,997 --> 01:19:16,161
I What I drive, you're not here
1560
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:20,579
I Oh, sweet, sweet smile
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