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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,584 --> 00:00:04,879 [Instrumental music] 2 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:30,822 [Drum music] 3 00:00:38,621 --> 00:00:40,457 [Knocking on door] 4 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:51,593 [Door creaking] 5 00:00:57,390 --> 00:01:00,435 [Intense music] 6 00:01:01,394 --> 00:01:02,854 [Phone ringing] 7 00:01:04,981 --> 00:01:06,524 [Ringing continues] 8 00:01:13,865 --> 00:01:16,576 [Intense music] 9 00:01:25,376 --> 00:01:28,004 (Woman on TV) 'Members of the new victory church' 10 00:01:28,046 --> 00:01:29,380 holding a prayer service here 11 00:01:29,422 --> 00:01:33,510 very upset over the murder of their church leader, Jeff Harris 12 00:01:33,551 --> 00:01:35,720 'and what looks to be the apparent abduction' 13 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:37,931 'of his wife, Martha Harris.' 14 00:01:37,972 --> 00:01:40,225 everyone assumes she was abducted. 15 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:41,226 You don't? 16 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:43,186 Always look to the nearest and dearest first. 17 00:01:43,228 --> 00:01:45,313 - In this case... - She's a preacher's wife. 18 00:01:45,355 --> 00:01:47,273 Nobody wants to believe she did it. 19 00:01:47,315 --> 00:01:48,691 Deep in their dark little hearts 20 00:01:48,733 --> 00:01:51,027 they all want to believe she did it. 21 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:54,239 - My dad was a preacher. - 'Well, then you should know.' 22 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,783 people love to see the righteous fall from grace. 23 00:01:56,825 --> 00:01:59,452 What was that like being a preacher's kid? 24 00:01:59,494 --> 00:02:01,746 Tough, living in the fish bowl. 25 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:04,165 The worst part was the way certain church ladies 26 00:02:04,207 --> 00:02:05,750 would throw themselves at my father. 27 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:08,419 Uh. Your mom must have loved that. 28 00:02:08,461 --> 00:02:10,296 My mom divorced that. 29 00:02:10,338 --> 00:02:13,383 Like sister gertrude used to say to us when we were 30 00:02:13,424 --> 00:02:14,801 lining up for the confessional 31 00:02:14,843 --> 00:02:17,387 "very good people do very bad things." 32 00:02:17,428 --> 00:02:19,013 Amen, sister gertrude. 33 00:02:19,055 --> 00:02:22,058 Meaning we don't want anyone giving Mrs. Harris a free pass 34 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:23,560 just because she's a preacher's wife. 35 00:02:23,601 --> 00:02:26,104 When she does show up, I want every Avenue explored. 36 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:28,314 - If she shows up. - 'Maureen, you're the expert.' 37 00:02:28,356 --> 00:02:30,024 you should drop by the crime scene. 38 00:02:30,066 --> 00:02:32,193 While the cops are looking for Mrs. Harris 39 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:34,529 you can see if it feels like an abduction. 40 00:02:34,571 --> 00:02:37,574 - Or? - Or if she murdered him. 41 00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:40,869 [Theme music] 42 00:02:43,079 --> 00:02:45,290 The victim was found face down, single bullet wound 43 00:02:45,331 --> 00:02:48,293 in the back of the head from a nine millimeter weapon. 44 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:50,170 Preliminary trajectory report suggest 45 00:02:50,211 --> 00:02:52,338 pastor Harris was on his knees. 46 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:54,841 Saying his prayers. 47 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:03,766 Credit card applications 48 00:03:03,808 --> 00:03:04,976 'home equity loan.' 49 00:03:05,018 --> 00:03:07,937 money is always tight in a minister's home. 50 00:03:08,771 --> 00:03:11,482 - Only one kid? - 'A son, Paul, 22.' 51 00:03:11,524 --> 00:03:15,069 (Maureen) That's unusual for a minister's family. I don't envy him. 52 00:03:15,111 --> 00:03:17,155 At least I had a lot of siblings 53 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:18,656 I could point the finger at. 54 00:03:18,698 --> 00:03:21,284 (Ed) Lord, will you look at this? 55 00:03:22,368 --> 00:03:24,621 It's a pizza from De Michael's. 56 00:03:24,662 --> 00:03:27,290 Easy, big fella, that's evidence. 57 00:03:27,332 --> 00:03:28,541 What a waste. 58 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:30,043 [Phone ringing] 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,420 Blackwell. 60 00:03:34,672 --> 00:03:35,632 Thanks. 61 00:03:35,673 --> 00:03:38,259 Cops found her in a motel down in Madison, Indiana. 62 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:41,638 That's a 100 miles away, down by the Ohio river. 63 00:03:41,679 --> 00:03:43,765 The Kentucky state line. 64 00:03:44,849 --> 00:03:47,518 (Ray) 'They tracked her vehicle south on i-65' 65 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,520 'from a gas receipt as far as scottsburg.' 66 00:03:49,562 --> 00:03:52,357 'found her in Madison when she turned her phone on.' 67 00:03:52,398 --> 00:03:53,983 - 'any sign she was abducted?' - 'Nope.' 68 00:03:54,025 --> 00:03:56,527 (ray) 'But they found blood on the driver's seat' 69 00:03:56,569 --> 00:03:58,029 'and steering wheel in her minivan.' 70 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:00,531 state troopers got her to Indianapolis in record time. 71 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:02,158 Ed's had her there for 20 minutes. 72 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,744 - She ask for a lawyer? - We offered, she declined. 73 00:04:04,786 --> 00:04:06,329 Seems like she's still in shock. 74 00:04:06,371 --> 00:04:09,457 Alright, preacher's kid, ready to go? 75 00:04:09,499 --> 00:04:12,502 P.k. To those who know me. 76 00:04:13,628 --> 00:04:16,381 I don't think I can survive this. 77 00:04:16,422 --> 00:04:20,969 Let's just take things one step at a time. 78 00:04:21,010 --> 00:04:23,012 That's what Jeff always said. 79 00:04:23,054 --> 00:04:24,681 That was his outlook. 80 00:04:24,722 --> 00:04:28,601 And-and look what he did for that church. 81 00:04:28,643 --> 00:04:30,603 One thing at a time. 82 00:04:31,312 --> 00:04:33,690 Grief or remorse? 83 00:04:33,731 --> 00:04:34,941 Can't get a read on her. 84 00:04:34,983 --> 00:04:39,696 You know, I used to love to sing in my father's choir. 85 00:04:39,737 --> 00:04:42,073 You did? Me too. 86 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:46,035 I, uh, I-I sang a solo, um... Twice a month. 87 00:04:46,077 --> 00:04:47,662 - A solo? - Mm-hmm. 88 00:04:47,704 --> 00:04:48,788 - Wow. - 'Yeah.' 89 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:51,457 I was always too shy to take a solo. 90 00:04:51,499 --> 00:04:53,167 Yeah, when it went well, I.. 91 00:04:53,209 --> 00:04:56,754 I-i, I felt like I was talking to god. 92 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:59,257 I mean, I mean, that's how I saw it. 93 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:01,718 I know what you mean. 94 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:05,888 Mrs. Harris, we were hoping to hear the story from you. 95 00:05:05,930 --> 00:05:09,142 I'm not gonna be able to tell you what you wanna hear. 96 00:05:09,183 --> 00:05:12,562 We're only interested in the truth. 97 00:05:12,603 --> 00:05:14,230 It's not that simple. 98 00:05:14,272 --> 00:05:16,566 Mrs. Harris, just tell us what happened. 99 00:05:16,607 --> 00:05:18,192 Can we stop for just a minute? 100 00:05:18,234 --> 00:05:21,487 I'd-I'd rather, I don't want to be a problem. 101 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:26,659 Uh, could I ask you something? 102 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:29,912 Um, you're a minister's daughter. 103 00:05:29,954 --> 00:05:32,874 I know you'll understand. 104 00:05:32,915 --> 00:05:34,792 Go ahead. 105 00:05:34,834 --> 00:05:37,170 Could I pray? Would you mind? 106 00:05:37,211 --> 00:05:39,047 [Instrumental music] 107 00:05:39,088 --> 00:05:41,215 Of course. 108 00:05:44,302 --> 00:05:48,389 Dear lord, I pray for strength. 109 00:05:49,891 --> 00:05:52,602 I pray for guidance. 110 00:05:52,643 --> 00:05:57,106 I pray for forgiveness for the evil that I have done. 111 00:05:58,691 --> 00:06:00,651 Sounds like remorse to me. 112 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:02,862 I'd call it a confession. 113 00:06:04,572 --> 00:06:06,783 Blood in the minivan, blood on her blouse 114 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:08,201 all a match for pastor Harris. 115 00:06:08,242 --> 00:06:11,162 But does asking god to forgive her constitute a confession? 116 00:06:11,204 --> 00:06:13,706 Wish she'd said, "god, forgive me for shooting my husband 117 00:06:13,748 --> 00:06:17,043 in the head," but it does speak to her state of mind. 118 00:06:17,085 --> 00:06:19,003 Cops found a receipt for De Michael's pizza. 119 00:06:19,045 --> 00:06:21,297 Puts her in the house when he was killed. 120 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:22,939 Anybody who's begging god for forgiveness 121 00:06:22,965 --> 00:06:24,884 is pretty close to giving it up altogether. 122 00:06:24,926 --> 00:06:27,762 Let's keep the pressure on her. Charge her with the murder. 123 00:06:27,804 --> 00:06:29,889 Then maybe we can avoid a trial altogether. 124 00:06:29,931 --> 00:06:32,183 But we have no weapon yet, no motive. 125 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:33,351 An affair, for instance? 126 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,727 - 'His or hers?' - Either. 127 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:38,564 If it turns out to be that, we can get her to the table. 128 00:06:38,606 --> 00:06:41,818 She won't want her dirty laundry hanging out for everyone to see. 129 00:06:41,859 --> 00:06:43,861 Papers on the preacher's desk seem to indicate 130 00:06:43,903 --> 00:06:46,030 some financial distress in the Harris household. 131 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:48,574 A couple half-filled out credit card applications 132 00:06:48,616 --> 00:06:49,867 and one home equity loan. 133 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:52,078 - For how much? - The Max, 50 grand. 134 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,955 Good, let's see what other doors open up. 135 00:06:53,996 --> 00:06:56,749 Let's do our homework with the members of the church too. 136 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:58,852 Preparations for the preacher's memorial service are underway. 137 00:06:58,876 --> 00:07:02,171 Good time to make an appearance at the new victory church. 138 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:03,589 (Ed) 'We're on it.' 139 00:07:03,631 --> 00:07:04,841 the jury's gonna wanna know 140 00:07:04,882 --> 00:07:07,510 what makes a preacher's wife kill. 141 00:07:09,804 --> 00:07:11,889 [Dramatic music] 142 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:17,562 If there's anywhere in this state 143 00:07:17,603 --> 00:07:19,021 where my client can get a fair trial 144 00:07:19,063 --> 00:07:20,398 it certainly isn't Indianapolis. 145 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,317 Now in light of the grotesque overexposure in the press... 146 00:07:23,359 --> 00:07:24,652 The overexposure in the press 147 00:07:24,694 --> 00:07:27,029 is the only reason Mr. Hellman's taken this case. 148 00:07:27,071 --> 00:07:29,490 The prosecution manipulated my client 149 00:07:29,532 --> 00:07:32,201 'and prevented her from seeking legal counsel' 150 00:07:32,243 --> 00:07:33,536 'in her hour of need' 151 00:07:33,578 --> 00:07:35,913 by pretending to be spiritually sympathetic. 152 00:07:35,955 --> 00:07:37,331 Just how did we manipulate her? 153 00:07:37,373 --> 00:07:40,042 By getting her to pray. How low can you go? 154 00:07:40,084 --> 00:07:42,086 That occurred at Mrs. Harris' request, not ours. 155 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:45,673 And then to leak her anguish, her private prayer 156 00:07:45,715 --> 00:07:47,967 'to the gutter press, who portray it' 157 00:07:48,009 --> 00:07:49,760 'as a confession. It's unconscionable.' 158 00:07:49,802 --> 00:07:53,264 our office leaked nothing and he knows it, your honor. 159 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:55,808 Mr. Hellman, the press coverage in this case 160 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:58,436 strikes me as not sufficient to taint the jury pool. 161 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:00,438 - Your honor... - Change of venue is denied. 162 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,772 Well, then I respectfully request 163 00:08:01,814 --> 00:08:04,942 that my client be released on suitably modest bail. 164 00:08:04,984 --> 00:08:07,570 Your honor, Mrs. Harris has fled this jurisdiction once already. 165 00:08:07,612 --> 00:08:10,114 (Doug) 'She'll be staying with members of her church' 166 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:12,200 law-abiding people who will hardly 167 00:08:12,241 --> 00:08:13,826 be inclined to help her jump bail. 168 00:08:13,868 --> 00:08:16,245 Your honor, the defendant admits fleeing the scene 169 00:08:16,287 --> 00:08:18,080 without reporting the crime to the police 170 00:08:18,122 --> 00:08:21,209 or summoning help for the victim. 171 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:22,793 Bail is set at $300,000. 172 00:08:22,835 --> 00:08:24,670 Why don't you just make it a million? 173 00:08:24,712 --> 00:08:27,131 Obviously my client can't raise that kind of money. 174 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:29,217 But should she do so, Mr. Hellman 175 00:08:29,258 --> 00:08:33,638 defendant will also submit to electronic monitoring. 176 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,139 Yes, your honor. 177 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:36,474 [Bangs gavel] 178 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,436 You did everything you could, Mr. Hellman. 179 00:08:40,478 --> 00:08:42,021 - I appreciate it. - Thank you. 180 00:08:42,063 --> 00:08:45,441 - And thanks for the books. - I'll see you real soon. 181 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:49,237 You should occasionally reconsider your world view 182 00:08:49,278 --> 00:08:52,281 that every defendant is guilty until proven innocent. 183 00:08:52,323 --> 00:08:54,075 That'd make me a defense attorney, Doug. 184 00:08:54,116 --> 00:08:56,869 I'm a prosecutor. I have another theory. 185 00:08:56,911 --> 00:09:00,873 Somebody leaked, "god forgive me" to the press. 186 00:09:00,915 --> 00:09:01,958 Obviously. 187 00:09:01,999 --> 00:09:05,127 Somebody looking for a smaller more conservative venue 188 00:09:05,169 --> 00:09:07,296 perhaps something more in tune 189 00:09:07,338 --> 00:09:09,507 with his client's religious views. 190 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:12,843 You certainly have a vivid imagination. 191 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:14,262 You are worth every penny. 192 00:09:14,303 --> 00:09:16,138 Now, since i'm doing this pro bono 193 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:18,140 a penny would actually be a raise. 194 00:09:18,182 --> 00:09:20,560 Have to give you a refund. 195 00:09:21,894 --> 00:09:23,479 I appreciate you coming in, Paul. 196 00:09:23,521 --> 00:09:26,607 I know Mr. Hellman counseled you not to speak to us. 197 00:09:26,649 --> 00:09:28,276 I'm... I'm only here to tell you 198 00:09:28,317 --> 00:09:30,319 my mother belongs at my father's funeral. 199 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:32,738 I understand why you'd want her to be there. 200 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:34,824 There's no way she could've done this. 201 00:09:34,865 --> 00:09:36,659 She's not a violent person. 202 00:09:36,701 --> 00:09:38,953 'We've never kept guns in the house.' 203 00:09:38,995 --> 00:09:40,621 really? 204 00:09:40,663 --> 00:09:43,332 Why don't you tell me about your parents? 205 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:46,043 Okay. 206 00:09:50,339 --> 00:09:52,008 Financial problems? 207 00:09:52,049 --> 00:09:54,385 - Were they worried about money? - I wouldn't know. 208 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:56,554 They never talked about that sorta thing. 209 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:57,805 Not in front of me. 210 00:09:57,847 --> 00:09:59,140 Was your father at home much? 211 00:09:59,181 --> 00:10:02,852 He was on call 24 hours a day, seven days a week. 212 00:10:02,893 --> 00:10:05,313 But s-she wouldn't have killed him for that. 213 00:10:05,354 --> 00:10:07,607 No major problems with their marriage? 214 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:09,609 No serious issues? 215 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:12,153 What marriage doesn't have problems? 216 00:10:12,194 --> 00:10:15,114 My mother was in it for the long the long haul. 217 00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:17,575 She was a lifer. They both were. 218 00:10:18,242 --> 00:10:20,911 Can she please go to the funeral? 219 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,332 I'm sorry. 220 00:10:24,373 --> 00:10:26,917 Not unless she can make bail. 221 00:10:28,336 --> 00:10:29,462 I'm the church secretary. 222 00:10:29,503 --> 00:10:33,758 I know exactly what this man has accomplished. 223 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:36,093 My own son, Todd.. 224 00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:38,846 Brother Jeff helped him stop drinking. 225 00:10:38,888 --> 00:10:42,475 Last year, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. 226 00:10:44,143 --> 00:10:46,979 I understand. 227 00:10:47,021 --> 00:10:49,774 Brother Jeff.. 228 00:10:49,815 --> 00:10:51,901 Helped me come to terms with it. 229 00:10:51,942 --> 00:10:54,195 'Got me through the chemo.' 230 00:10:59,450 --> 00:11:02,036 What about financial difficulties? 231 00:11:03,204 --> 00:11:04,664 Uh.. 232 00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:07,291 Raising money for the new church 233 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:10,753 was full of challenges, setbacks. 234 00:11:10,795 --> 00:11:13,339 I meant their personal finances. 235 00:11:14,507 --> 00:11:19,679 Uh... well, money was always tight. 236 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,931 Far as I know, they were alright. 237 00:11:21,972 --> 00:11:25,518 Mrs. Monroe, did you know of any problems in their marriage? 238 00:11:27,728 --> 00:11:28,979 What are you insinuating? 239 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:31,065 Just a routine question. I have to ask. 240 00:11:31,107 --> 00:11:32,650 If I did, I sure wouldn't be 241 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:36,404 going around talking about it at a time like this. 242 00:11:36,445 --> 00:11:37,780 So there were problems. 243 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:41,742 We're all in a tremendous amount of pain here. 244 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:46,831 I'm PR... We're all praying for Martha. 245 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Been going over the Harris' finances. 246 00:11:54,922 --> 00:11:57,800 They were doing okay. Made more than I did. 247 00:11:57,842 --> 00:11:59,218 Found this in his desk drawer. 248 00:11:59,260 --> 00:12:01,804 Thought you might wanna look at it. 249 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:08,894 "On your special day i'm sending you some special love. 250 00:12:08,936 --> 00:12:10,271 "Spending time with you 251 00:12:10,312 --> 00:12:12,314 "is the most incredible gift I've ever received. 252 00:12:12,356 --> 00:12:14,358 You're the light of my life. Signed.." 253 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,944 "Your love lifts me higher. Joan." 254 00:12:16,986 --> 00:12:19,780 - That's not his wife's name. - 'It's his secretary.' 255 00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:21,282 Joan Monroe. Just met her. 256 00:12:21,323 --> 00:12:24,326 Look at all the schoolgirl hearts she's drawn there. 257 00:12:24,368 --> 00:12:27,037 And the pressed flower. So over the top. 258 00:12:27,079 --> 00:12:29,540 If the preacher was having an inappropriate relationship... 259 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:33,210 I can see how Martha Harris could get that idea. 260 00:12:33,252 --> 00:12:35,337 And look at this. 261 00:12:35,379 --> 00:12:36,797 'The Harris' phone records.' 262 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:39,633 the last call made from the Harris' house 263 00:12:39,675 --> 00:12:41,552 was to Joan Monroe's. 264 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:44,096 Preacher and the secretary spent all kinds of time together. 265 00:12:44,138 --> 00:12:46,932 Raising money, talking on the phone, wife finds out.. 266 00:12:46,974 --> 00:12:48,642 You should speak to Joan Monroe again. 267 00:12:48,684 --> 00:12:52,146 And we'll see what Martha Harris makes of this birthday card. 268 00:12:52,188 --> 00:12:54,315 (Ray) 'Alrighty.' 269 00:12:54,356 --> 00:12:57,359 what can you tell us about Joan Monroe? 270 00:12:57,401 --> 00:12:59,111 Uh, she took over as church secretary 271 00:12:59,153 --> 00:13:01,781 when I stepped down last year from the job. 272 00:13:01,822 --> 00:13:03,407 She replaced you? 273 00:13:03,449 --> 00:13:04,784 I'd had my turn. 274 00:13:04,825 --> 00:13:07,369 Have you seen this before? 275 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:12,625 Um... jeff received literally 276 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:14,919 a hundred cards on his birthday. 277 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,214 This particular one is from Joan Monroe. 278 00:13:18,255 --> 00:13:20,633 (Annabeth) 'We were wondering if he may have had' 279 00:13:20,674 --> 00:13:24,637 a special relationship with his secretary. 280 00:13:24,678 --> 00:13:25,638 Special? 281 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,973 Especially close. 282 00:13:28,015 --> 00:13:30,017 So this is a fishing trip, hmm? 283 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:31,393 Nice day for it. 284 00:13:31,435 --> 00:13:33,854 You're mistaken. She was not special to him. 285 00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:37,525 So she wasn't having an affair with your husband? 286 00:13:37,566 --> 00:13:41,237 Joan Monroe is a hardworking woman who loves the lord. 287 00:13:41,278 --> 00:13:43,781 'My husband appreciated her dedication.' 288 00:13:43,823 --> 00:13:45,741 I can see that the two of you 289 00:13:45,783 --> 00:13:47,660 share a similar dedication to your work 290 00:13:47,701 --> 00:13:49,870 'but I really don't want to be thought of' 291 00:13:49,912 --> 00:13:53,165 as a jealous, suspicious wife which I've never been. 292 00:13:53,207 --> 00:13:55,459 Nor do I want my husband to be remembered 293 00:13:55,501 --> 00:13:58,212 as involved in any way with that woman. 294 00:14:02,675 --> 00:14:03,884 "That woman?" 295 00:14:03,926 --> 00:14:05,052 I'm no preacher's kid 296 00:14:05,094 --> 00:14:07,304 but I don't think she much likes Joan Monroe. 297 00:14:07,346 --> 00:14:09,682 My mother, she would never say anything bad 298 00:14:09,723 --> 00:14:11,058 about anybody in the church. 299 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:12,184 Afraid of the backlash? 300 00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:14,728 No, I think she was worried if she started 301 00:14:14,770 --> 00:14:16,438 she wouldn't be able to stop. 302 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,731 [Chuckles] 303 00:14:18,732 --> 00:14:20,776 You missed your dad after he moved out? 304 00:14:20,818 --> 00:14:22,236 I didn't have time for that. 305 00:14:22,278 --> 00:14:26,115 I had to help my mom raise my brothers and sisters. 306 00:14:26,156 --> 00:14:28,701 Yeah. I missed him. 307 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:35,165 (Ray) Mrs. Monroe, my partner and I would like a word with you. 308 00:14:35,207 --> 00:14:38,711 Detective... i-i'm in a bit of a rush. 309 00:14:38,752 --> 00:14:41,005 There's still a million things yet to do. 310 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:42,298 Then we'll get right to it. 311 00:14:42,339 --> 00:14:44,800 We believe you were having an inappropriate relationship 312 00:14:44,842 --> 00:14:47,011 with pastor Harris. 313 00:14:47,052 --> 00:14:48,554 Inappropriate? 314 00:14:48,596 --> 00:14:51,515 You know... Extramarital. 315 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:52,892 Huh. 316 00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:55,644 Whatever gave you that idea? 317 00:14:55,686 --> 00:14:57,980 We found the birthday card. 318 00:14:58,022 --> 00:15:01,942 There was nothing inappropriate about that birthday card. 319 00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:05,446 I know where you're getting this. 320 00:15:05,487 --> 00:15:06,488 It's her, isn't it? 321 00:15:06,530 --> 00:15:09,241 It's Martha. Poor woman. 322 00:15:09,283 --> 00:15:12,870 She never knew what a truly righteous man she had. 323 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:15,039 [Sighs] 324 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,500 Brother Jeff told me how jealous she was 325 00:15:18,542 --> 00:15:20,586 because we were spending so much time together 326 00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:23,339 on the building fund. We laughed about it. 327 00:15:23,380 --> 00:15:25,841 That's how absurd it was. 328 00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:28,552 I'm sorry, if there's nothing else 329 00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:29,887 I really have to get going. 330 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:33,223 - Let me help you with that. - It's fine. I can manage. 331 00:15:33,265 --> 00:15:34,683 It's no problem. 332 00:15:34,725 --> 00:15:36,518 - Oh, it's heavy. - Thank you. 333 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,812 Just put it in the backseat here. 334 00:15:38,854 --> 00:15:41,273 [Intense music] 335 00:15:42,816 --> 00:15:45,235 It's better in the trunk, don't you think? 336 00:15:45,277 --> 00:15:48,072 No. The backseat's fine, really. 337 00:15:48,113 --> 00:15:51,241 - Let's put it in the trunk. - It's full. 338 00:15:51,283 --> 00:15:53,827 (Ray) 'I'm sure we can squeeze it in.' 339 00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:57,706 Mrs. Monroe, open the trunk, please. 340 00:15:57,748 --> 00:15:58,874 Now. 341 00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:02,127 Alright. 342 00:16:09,551 --> 00:16:11,470 Cleaning out the office? 343 00:16:11,512 --> 00:16:13,889 Like I said, lots to do. 344 00:16:15,057 --> 00:16:17,977 (Ray) She told us everything right there on the street. 345 00:16:18,018 --> 00:16:19,353 On the day pastor Harris died 346 00:16:19,395 --> 00:16:21,438 the church building fund disappeared. 347 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,025 All $267,000 wiped out. 348 00:16:25,067 --> 00:16:26,777 - Gone? - Internet scam. 349 00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:29,571 Oldest one in the book. The Nigerian letter. 350 00:16:29,613 --> 00:16:31,407 (Ray) 'I got one of those once.' 351 00:16:31,448 --> 00:16:33,283 people are still falling for that? 352 00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:35,744 We've got Randall looking at the church computer now 353 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:37,788 so we don't have a full picture yet. 354 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:39,289 And the bags of shredded documents? 355 00:16:39,331 --> 00:16:41,500 Joan Monroe says she didn't want the preacher 356 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:42,769 to be remembered at his funeral 357 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:45,004 as the guy who lost the church building fund. 358 00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:47,006 Well, shredding documents isn't gonna stop anyone 359 00:16:47,047 --> 00:16:48,549 from finding out the money's missing. 360 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:52,302 Well, maybe she was trying to delay that unpleasant revelation 361 00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:53,554 until after his funeral. 362 00:16:53,595 --> 00:16:55,264 Any chance of recovering the funds? 363 00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:56,432 (Ray) 'Long gone.' 364 00:16:56,473 --> 00:16:58,475 international wire transfer to Africa. 365 00:16:58,517 --> 00:17:00,519 Let's say the preacher and his secretary 366 00:17:00,561 --> 00:17:01,770 were having an affair. 367 00:17:01,812 --> 00:17:03,188 That's what it's looking like. 368 00:17:03,230 --> 00:17:07,443 And then the preacher loses $267,000 of the church's money 369 00:17:07,484 --> 00:17:10,154 that the congregation had worked so hard to raise. 370 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:12,406 Another good reason for his wife to whack him. 371 00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:14,992 (James) On the other hand, if the secretary 372 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,369 was involved in losing the church's money.. 373 00:17:17,411 --> 00:17:19,872 My money is still on the missus, not the mistress. 374 00:17:19,913 --> 00:17:24,001 Nevertheless, the other woman always bears looking at. 375 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:27,254 [Intense music] 376 00:17:30,507 --> 00:17:31,633 - Hey. - 'Hey.' 377 00:17:31,675 --> 00:17:34,762 this is the warrant to search Joan Monroe's house. 378 00:17:34,803 --> 00:17:36,430 This money thing's come into the case 379 00:17:36,472 --> 00:17:39,016 but my intuition says it's still about jealousy. 380 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:39,975 And losing the money? 381 00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:41,185 Maybe that led to Martha 382 00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:42,936 finding out about the affair. 383 00:17:42,978 --> 00:17:45,105 Just got off the phone with the church deacons 384 00:17:45,147 --> 00:17:48,317 and agreed to share with them what we know about the loss. 385 00:17:48,358 --> 00:17:50,652 - Can you write up a summary? - Sure. 386 00:17:50,694 --> 00:17:53,614 I don't think it'll make them feel better about their pastor. 387 00:17:53,655 --> 00:17:55,616 - Where you going? - To talk to his wife. 388 00:17:55,657 --> 00:17:57,910 See if she knows anything about this missing money. 389 00:17:57,951 --> 00:18:01,163 If your dad lost every penny of his church's money? 390 00:18:01,205 --> 00:18:03,916 My mom would have skinned him alive. 391 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,711 [Intense music] 392 00:18:09,338 --> 00:18:12,424 Mrs. Harris, were you aware that the day your husband was killed 393 00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:16,011 he had lost the church building fund in an Internet scam? 394 00:18:16,053 --> 00:18:18,055 Now no matter how many times you ask 395 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:19,765 she's not gonna answer that question. 396 00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:22,309 You should know the church is now forced to withdraw 397 00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:24,686 its offer to buy the land at Washington and central. 398 00:18:24,728 --> 00:18:29,108 And your source is this church secretary, Joan Monroe, right? 399 00:18:29,149 --> 00:18:30,859 Funny how that name keeps coming up. 400 00:18:30,901 --> 00:18:33,129 She said some very interesting things about pastor Harris. 401 00:18:33,153 --> 00:18:36,740 No doubt. Did you manage to keep her lawyer out of the room too? 402 00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:39,785 We know the loss of this money and the murder are connected. 403 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:42,538 'If you knew for sure, you wouldn't be baiting Martha.' 404 00:18:42,579 --> 00:18:44,414 I don't know what that woman said. 405 00:18:44,456 --> 00:18:46,125 You keep calling her "that woman." 406 00:18:46,166 --> 00:18:48,377 She's just trying to get a rise outta you. 407 00:18:48,418 --> 00:18:51,880 The Nigerians took the money, not my husband. 408 00:18:53,882 --> 00:18:56,260 I never mentioned Nigerians. 409 00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:59,638 I guess you answered my question after all. 410 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,225 'We're searching Mrs. Monroe's house as we speak.' 411 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,190 hard time believing people fall for this Nigerian Internet scam. 412 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:12,776 (Ed) 'They don't fall for it all at once.' 413 00:19:12,818 --> 00:19:14,403 it's one little hook at a time. 414 00:19:14,444 --> 00:19:17,114 And they were trying to raise money for the new church. 415 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:21,076 Yeah, they got greedy. That's how people usually get scammed. 416 00:19:29,793 --> 00:19:32,880 - Look at this. - Power tool case? 417 00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:35,340 If you consider a nine millimeter glock-17 418 00:19:35,382 --> 00:19:36,592 a power tool. 419 00:19:36,633 --> 00:19:39,094 A lot of people would. 420 00:19:39,136 --> 00:19:41,013 It's empty. 421 00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:44,391 The weapon was registered to Joan Monroe. 422 00:19:44,433 --> 00:19:46,393 Anybody else have access to the gun? 423 00:19:46,435 --> 00:19:47,853 Her husband died years ago 424 00:19:47,895 --> 00:19:49,855 but her son Todd lives with her. 425 00:19:49,897 --> 00:19:51,565 Ray's trying to locate him now. 426 00:19:51,607 --> 00:19:53,442 You think Joan Monroe did this? 427 00:19:53,483 --> 00:19:55,360 Maybe pastor Harris insisted 428 00:19:55,402 --> 00:19:57,571 she take the blame for the Internet scam. 429 00:19:57,613 --> 00:19:59,615 People of faith are particularly vulnerable 430 00:19:59,656 --> 00:20:00,866 to these type of cons. 431 00:20:00,908 --> 00:20:02,993 Because they're so darn trusting? 432 00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:05,162 - You sound dubious. - A little. 433 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:06,496 Just 'cause you go to church 434 00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:09,958 doesn't make you some dewy-eyed, innocent babe in the woods. 435 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,252 I know what you mean, but I'm just saying 436 00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:14,087 if you knew which buttons to push 437 00:20:14,129 --> 00:20:15,839 a smart operator can take advantage. 438 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:17,591 You think that's what happened here? 439 00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:19,384 Well, Ed's in with randal right now 440 00:20:19,426 --> 00:20:21,470 looking at all the grisly details. 441 00:20:21,511 --> 00:20:24,806 - 'A classic affinity scam.' - 'Affinity?' 442 00:20:24,848 --> 00:20:25,933 you're a good Christian 443 00:20:25,974 --> 00:20:27,851 I'm a good Christian, you can trust me. 444 00:20:27,893 --> 00:20:30,354 - My antennae's up right there. - 'Most people's would be.' 445 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:32,814 but these guys are sophisticated. 446 00:20:32,856 --> 00:20:35,984 They personalize things like, "pastor Harris, we've heard 447 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,444 about your church building project. 448 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:39,821 "Here in Nigeria, we dream of building a hospital 449 00:20:39,863 --> 00:20:42,407 for the poor. Perhaps we can help one another." 450 00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:43,533 So it's a win-win? 451 00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:45,535 We get our hospital, you get your church. 452 00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:47,454 - 'Mm-hmm.' - what do they want help with? 453 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:51,375 Getting fifteen million dollars out of their country. 454 00:20:51,416 --> 00:20:53,377 All they need is an American bank account 455 00:20:53,418 --> 00:20:55,671 to deposit the fifteen million in. 456 00:20:55,712 --> 00:20:56,463 Why? 457 00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,090 Because they claim some corrupt 458 00:20:58,131 --> 00:21:00,467 Nigerian officials are gonna steal it. 459 00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:04,054 Okay. And in exchange for doing this good deed? 460 00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:07,849 Thirty percent of the fifteen million. 461 00:21:07,891 --> 00:21:09,810 So pastor Harris gives them the account number 462 00:21:09,851 --> 00:21:12,187 and the next thing it's bye-bye building fund. 463 00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:14,106 So long, farewell, adios. 464 00:21:14,147 --> 00:21:16,191 But why not open up a separate account? 465 00:21:16,233 --> 00:21:17,651 Why give up the building account? 466 00:21:17,693 --> 00:21:19,319 According to church bylaws, that would've 467 00:21:19,361 --> 00:21:20,988 required approval from the deacons. 468 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:23,991 - He didn't want them to know? - He thought they'd nix it. 469 00:21:24,032 --> 00:21:27,286 - Too risky. - They'd have been right. 470 00:21:27,327 --> 00:21:30,038 How'd the Nigerians convince him they had fifteen million 471 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,540 in the first place? 472 00:21:31,581 --> 00:21:34,334 Yeah, this is an attachment to an e-mail 473 00:21:34,376 --> 00:21:37,546 dated two days before the pastor was killed. 474 00:21:38,922 --> 00:21:41,341 (Ed) That's a lot of money. 475 00:21:41,383 --> 00:21:44,428 Enough to make people do some crazy-ass things. 476 00:21:46,763 --> 00:21:50,309 We thought the loss of the fund was somehow tied to the murder 477 00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:52,477 but before that money disappeared, the preacher 478 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:54,187 Joan Monroe and maybe even his wife 479 00:21:54,229 --> 00:21:56,189 thought millions of dollars were on the way. 480 00:21:56,231 --> 00:21:59,109 The preacher's end was 30% of 15 million. 4.5 mil. 481 00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,820 You're saying he was killed by somebody trying to get 482 00:22:01,862 --> 00:22:03,739 that money even though it never existed? 483 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:06,616 The preacher believed it existed and he believed it was coming. 484 00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:09,036 These people believed the preacher, so in their mind.. 485 00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:11,163 - It was coming. - Money in the bank. 486 00:22:11,204 --> 00:22:12,914 We've located Joan Monroe's son. 487 00:22:12,956 --> 00:22:16,710 (Ray) Cops in Ohio caught him switching a license plate. 488 00:22:16,752 --> 00:22:20,630 They found a nine millimeter glock-17. 489 00:22:20,672 --> 00:22:21,965 His mama's gun. 490 00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:25,510 Excuse me while I get the extradition ball rolling. 491 00:22:25,552 --> 00:22:28,138 (Ed) 'Were you a member of the new victory church?' 492 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:31,558 I play drums in the band there three times a week. 493 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,934 What were you doing in Ohio 494 00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:35,687 switching the license plates on your car? 495 00:22:35,729 --> 00:22:37,356 I was visiting a buddy of mine 496 00:22:37,397 --> 00:22:38,982 and I noticed my tags were expired. 497 00:22:39,024 --> 00:22:41,985 And I was, like... I don't want to get pulled over 498 00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:44,029 because I-I have a lotta parking tickets. 499 00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:45,697 I know it's pretty stupid. 500 00:22:45,739 --> 00:22:48,200 Where'd you get the stolen plates? 501 00:22:48,241 --> 00:22:49,951 I had 'em in my garage. 502 00:22:49,993 --> 00:22:52,621 Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. 503 00:22:52,662 --> 00:22:55,582 Or that's what he wants you to think. 504 00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:57,501 Let's talk about your mother's gun. 505 00:22:57,542 --> 00:23:01,171 The murder weapon which was found in your car. 506 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,007 I didn't have anything to do with pastor Harris' murder. 507 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:08,011 Your mother know you took off with her gun? 508 00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:10,430 She give it to you to get rid of? 509 00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:12,766 She had nothing to do with it either. 510 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:15,102 Then who did? 511 00:23:15,143 --> 00:23:17,938 You've already got her. 512 00:23:17,979 --> 00:23:20,524 It was Martha. She did it. 513 00:23:20,565 --> 00:23:23,026 (Ed) The preacher's wife? 514 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:25,404 How do you know that? 515 00:23:29,157 --> 00:23:31,535 Because I was sleeping with her. 516 00:23:33,328 --> 00:23:35,622 Good lord. 517 00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,895 Todd Monroe's prints are all over the murder weapon. 518 00:23:40,919 --> 00:23:42,379 Talk to me about Todd. 519 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,256 Alcoholic, couldn't hold a job. 520 00:23:44,297 --> 00:23:45,799 Pastor Harris got him into rehab 521 00:23:45,841 --> 00:23:47,801 found him a job in a shoe store 522 00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:49,803 and let him play in the church band. 523 00:23:49,845 --> 00:23:52,180 Naturally, he killed the man who saved his life. 524 00:23:52,222 --> 00:23:53,699 Some people don't know how to receive. 525 00:23:53,723 --> 00:23:56,518 Something about a serpent's tooth and an ungrateful child. 526 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,811 What about the affair? 527 00:23:57,853 --> 00:24:00,230 The motel in Madison where Mrs. Harris was arrested. 528 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:01,982 Todd said that's where they would meet. 529 00:24:02,023 --> 00:24:05,485 They drive 200 miles round-trip to conduct the affair? 530 00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:07,821 I believe it, she really wanted to make sure 531 00:24:07,863 --> 00:24:09,448 nobody from her church would find out. 532 00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:12,784 Hotel record, Todd Monroe, every Thursday around 3 P.M. 533 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:15,036 Going back at least a couple of months. 534 00:24:15,078 --> 00:24:16,496 Confirms the affair for me. 535 00:24:16,538 --> 00:24:19,416 So, Todd Monroe is saying Martha Harris did it. 536 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:20,792 Is he saying why? 537 00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:22,127 He don't wanna talk about that. 538 00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:24,921 When we told him we knew all about the Nigerian scam 539 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:26,965 he immediately said Mrs. Harris killed her husband 540 00:24:27,007 --> 00:24:29,801 because she was after the four and a half million. 541 00:24:29,843 --> 00:24:31,428 But there never was any money. 542 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,889 That doesn't matter. They thought there was. 543 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:35,599 Todd had the gun in his car. 544 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,017 Isn't he the likely shooter here? 545 00:24:37,058 --> 00:24:40,145 I would think so, but we can't place him at the scene. 546 00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:42,522 Now, if Martha's affair with Todd were made public 547 00:24:42,564 --> 00:24:45,817 a much younger man, and when we tell her that Todd 548 00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:47,694 is telling us that she killed her husband.. 549 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:50,780 - She'd feel betrayed. - She might even turn on him. 550 00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:55,118 I'm counting on the two of you to make her feel really bad. 551 00:24:57,287 --> 00:24:59,539 (Doug) 'These frequent visits with my client' 552 00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:02,167 seem to indicate a certain lack of confidence 553 00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:03,793 in your case against her. 554 00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:05,045 We've arrested Todd Monroe 555 00:25:05,086 --> 00:25:08,215 in connection with pastor Harris' murder. 556 00:25:08,256 --> 00:25:09,966 As I said. 557 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:13,678 He told us he and Mrs. Harris met regularly at a motel 558 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,848 in Madison, Indiana. His story checks out. 559 00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:18,892 (Maureen) 'If we go to trial, Mrs. Harris' 560 00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:22,062 everyone will hear about the affair. 561 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:27,150 He told us you killed your husband for the money. 562 00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:29,152 My husband and I didn't have any money. 563 00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:32,072 Mrs. Harris, Todd Monroe said you killed your husband 564 00:25:32,113 --> 00:25:34,074 because you wanted the millions of dollars 565 00:25:34,115 --> 00:25:36,952 he was expecting from Nigeria. 566 00:25:36,993 --> 00:25:38,495 Nobody had millions of dollars. 567 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:40,622 I don't know what Todd is talking about. 568 00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:43,333 He killed my husband because of me. 569 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:47,963 Martha... as your attorney 570 00:25:48,004 --> 00:25:51,299 if you have anything to say to these ladies.. 571 00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:53,843 Now would be a good moment. 572 00:26:00,308 --> 00:26:03,562 It wasn't a normal Saturday night. 573 00:26:03,603 --> 00:26:04,688 How so? 574 00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:06,439 My husband was very upset about something 575 00:26:06,481 --> 00:26:09,734 and I thought he had found out about me and Todd. 576 00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:13,780 And I said, "Jeff, you have to tell me what's going on." 577 00:26:13,822 --> 00:26:16,950 He said he had done a stupid, stupid thing. 578 00:26:16,992 --> 00:26:19,202 He had trusted somebody on the Internet 579 00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:21,955 and it lost the building fund money. 580 00:26:21,997 --> 00:26:25,625 He said the people in the church would never forgive him. 581 00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:27,961 He'd go to prison. 582 00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:30,547 And he told me I should leave him. 583 00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:32,007 And what did you say? 584 00:26:32,048 --> 00:26:34,551 I said he wasn't the horrible person 585 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,720 I was the horrible person. 586 00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:39,055 I was the one having the affair. 587 00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:41,850 You confessed your affair to him? 588 00:26:41,891 --> 00:26:45,103 And we talked and prayed 589 00:26:45,145 --> 00:26:47,480 and Jeff forgave me. 590 00:26:47,522 --> 00:26:49,816 He just forgave me. 591 00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:53,028 I know this is going to sound strange 592 00:26:53,069 --> 00:26:56,823 but it was the closest we'd been in years. 593 00:27:01,870 --> 00:27:04,247 And then he called Todd. 594 00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:06,333 Could you hear what he said to him? 595 00:27:06,374 --> 00:27:09,919 He said, "I know about everything." 596 00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:13,506 And to come over right now, Todd. 597 00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:16,676 And when he hung up the phone, he asked me to leave 598 00:27:16,718 --> 00:27:20,138 and to come back in a couple hours. 599 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:24,392 The last thing that my husband ever said to me in this world 600 00:27:24,434 --> 00:27:29,314 was to bless me for having the courage to tell the truth. 601 00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:35,403 And when I came home.. 602 00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:39,991 Your husband died 603 00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:43,995 when he confronted Todd Monroe over the affair. 604 00:27:44,037 --> 00:27:46,998 This is god's judgment on me. 605 00:27:47,791 --> 00:27:49,626 [Exhales] 606 00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:51,795 Ladies. 607 00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:58,093 She needs to agree to tell this story to a jury. 608 00:27:58,134 --> 00:28:01,304 And you will dismiss all charges against her? 609 00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:05,016 We will dismiss the charges. 610 00:28:08,061 --> 00:28:11,272 [Intense music] 611 00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:16,611 I have to talk about everything? 612 00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:19,155 Everything. 613 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:22,075 How your husband telling you he lost the church's money 614 00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:24,244 led you to confess your affair with Todd 615 00:28:24,285 --> 00:28:26,162 which led to the fatal confrontation 616 00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:27,455 between the two of them. 617 00:28:27,497 --> 00:28:31,334 And you'll need to tell the jury just how the affair started. 618 00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:35,755 When my son Paul went to college 619 00:28:35,797 --> 00:28:37,173 Jeff threw himself full-time 620 00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:39,676 into raising money for the church. 621 00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:43,054 I felt like he was avoiding me. 622 00:28:43,096 --> 00:28:45,348 I was so lonely. 623 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:46,975 That sounds tough. 624 00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:48,268 And then my husband decided 625 00:28:48,309 --> 00:28:51,229 to introduce a more contemporary service 626 00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:52,981 to attract new membership. 627 00:28:53,022 --> 00:28:55,859 And he told me that nobody really liked the music 628 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:57,610 we had always sung. 629 00:28:57,652 --> 00:28:59,070 So I sang my last solo. 630 00:28:59,112 --> 00:29:02,240 The last one that I would ever sing in my life. 631 00:29:02,282 --> 00:29:06,411 And who was the only person who came up to me after? 632 00:29:06,453 --> 00:29:08,705 Todd Monroe. 633 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,291 He said that I had the most beautiful voice 634 00:29:11,332 --> 00:29:13,209 god had ever heard. 635 00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:17,630 It was the kindest thing that anyone had ever said to me. 636 00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:20,091 You need to understand that he was a listener. 637 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:21,885 I mean, everybody listens to a preacher 638 00:29:21,926 --> 00:29:24,929 but nobody listens to a preacher's wife. 639 00:29:26,222 --> 00:29:27,390 Whenever I was with him 640 00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:31,311 he would always say, "tell me everything." 641 00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:34,981 He listened to you. 642 00:29:35,023 --> 00:29:37,484 He listened. 643 00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:41,905 Jeff said, "I know. I know about everything." 644 00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:44,866 And then he asked Todd to come over and talk. 645 00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:48,536 I left and when I came back, Jeff was dead. 646 00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,497 We would like to enter into evidence 647 00:29:50,538 --> 00:29:52,999 pastor Harris' phone records. 648 00:29:53,041 --> 00:29:56,211 Last phone call he made was to Joan Monroe's house 649 00:29:56,252 --> 00:29:58,922 where the defendant was residing. 650 00:30:00,048 --> 00:30:02,008 Mrs. Harris, one last question. 651 00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:05,887 Why didn't you call 911 when you found your husband's body? 652 00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:08,723 I felt responsible 653 00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:12,227 and I was scared that everything about the affair would come out. 654 00:30:12,268 --> 00:30:14,771 I didn't know what to do. 655 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:19,317 And then I kept thinking, if I hadn't been unfaithful 656 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,778 Jeff would still be alive. 657 00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,698 No further questions, your honor. 658 00:30:29,077 --> 00:30:32,205 I just have a few questions, Mrs. Harris. 659 00:30:32,247 --> 00:30:35,041 You were at one time the church secretary 660 00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:37,585 for new victory Evangelical, were you not? 661 00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:38,878 Uh, briefly last year. 662 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,631 So you have a working knowledge of the church's finances 663 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:43,800 bank accounts, passwords, user names? 664 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:44,926 I did. 665 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:48,388 Your honor, I would like to read this piece of correspondence 666 00:30:48,429 --> 00:30:51,558 from the southern guarantee bank of Costa Rica. 667 00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,310 Objection, your honor. We are unaware of any such letter. 668 00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:56,604 That's 'cause it just arrived in the mail. 669 00:30:56,646 --> 00:30:58,982 Counselors, to the bench. 670 00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:05,572 We're supposed to take this at face value, your honor? 671 00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:07,824 We have no way of authenticating these documents. 672 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,367 (Male #1) 'I agree, Ms. Chase.' 673 00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:11,619 'this is, uh, quite a development.' 674 00:31:11,661 --> 00:31:15,582 I suggest we take a recess and convene in my chambers. 675 00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:18,501 "Dear Mrs. Harris 676 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:24,674 "thank you for your recent deposit of $267,000.38.. 677 00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:26,467 Usd." 678 00:31:26,509 --> 00:31:29,846 Mrs. Harris, how much money was in the church building fund 679 00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:31,389 when it was wiped out? 680 00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:32,640 267,000. 681 00:31:32,682 --> 00:31:36,477 Did you take that money and place it in an offshore account? 682 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:38,771 I don't even know what an offshore account is. 683 00:31:38,813 --> 00:31:42,066 Well, southern guarantee bank seems to be familiar with you. 684 00:31:42,108 --> 00:31:44,193 'And I'm wondering, annabeth, how do you explain' 685 00:31:44,235 --> 00:31:47,697 this post office box she shares with my client? 686 00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:53,244 Uh, Mrs. Harris, is this document accurate? 687 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:58,583 That's my signature, but I didn't sign that. 688 00:31:58,625 --> 00:32:01,878 I can see how this must be very upsetting to everyone 689 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,050 but I have to tell you I'm not upset. I'm relieved. 690 00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:10,929 - You're relieved? - The money's been found. 691 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:13,139 The church can get the money back. 692 00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:14,807 It's what Jeff would have wanted. 693 00:32:14,849 --> 00:32:17,268 But everyone thinks you took it. 694 00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:20,271 God's grace is like that sometimes. 695 00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:21,814 It doesn't matter. 696 00:32:21,856 --> 00:32:25,610 As long as the church gets the money back. 697 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:28,154 In light of these revelations, do the people wish 698 00:32:28,196 --> 00:32:30,406 to amend their case against Todd Monroe? 699 00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:32,617 Your honor, we need time to investigate 700 00:32:32,659 --> 00:32:34,744 and authenticate these documents. 701 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,038 You have 36 hours, Ms. Chase. 702 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,332 At that time, I'll hear from counsel again. 703 00:32:39,374 --> 00:32:40,500 And if not satisfied 704 00:32:40,541 --> 00:32:42,293 'i will entertain a motion to amend' 705 00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:45,380 'or dismiss the charges against Mr. Monroe.' 706 00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:51,552 this is like a head-on train wreck. 707 00:32:51,594 --> 00:32:53,596 How's the jury not gonna think she stole the funds 708 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,515 and killed her husband to keep it quiet? 709 00:32:55,556 --> 00:32:58,184 If we can link Todd Monroe to the offshore accounts... 710 00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,061 The whole point of an offshore account 711 00:33:00,103 --> 00:33:02,438 is to put it out of reach of us authority. 712 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,526 If Todd Monroe managed to steal the church building fund.. 713 00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:07,920 It'd have to be done electronically. 714 00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:09,904 There's nothing like that on his computer. 715 00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:11,280 What about his mom's computer? 716 00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:13,366 Nothing of his there either. 717 00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:14,993 Go over everything again. 718 00:33:15,034 --> 00:33:17,161 His car, his laundry, his drum set. 719 00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:20,957 If you come up blank, we're gonna have to make a deal. 720 00:33:26,629 --> 00:33:28,524 (Ray) There's nothing here that wasn't here before. 721 00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:31,801 This sugar gave up the sauce, but he's sure loving the lattes. 722 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:35,638 They say, "go on the wagon, you get hooked on caffeine." 723 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:38,016 What's with the receipts? 724 00:33:38,057 --> 00:33:40,435 Chocolate donuts tax deductible or something? 725 00:33:40,476 --> 00:33:41,811 I wish. 726 00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:44,105 Here's another one. 727 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:46,524 "Greenville, Ohio." 728 00:33:46,566 --> 00:33:49,527 That's where he was picked up, remember? 729 00:33:49,569 --> 00:33:52,447 - When was he picked up? - The exact day? I don't know. 730 00:33:52,488 --> 00:33:55,908 This is dated two months ago and it's for 30 bucks. 731 00:33:56,993 --> 00:33:58,953 Who spends 30 bucks on coffee? 732 00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:01,539 Somebody buying computer time, maybe? 733 00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:03,958 Internet cafe? 734 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,753 Our boy drives out of state to go online. 735 00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:08,671 If we're lucky.. 736 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:10,381 Greenville. 737 00:34:10,423 --> 00:34:11,799 That's an hour plus. 738 00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:13,509 Depends who's driving. 739 00:34:13,551 --> 00:34:15,053 The coffee shop owner recognized him. 740 00:34:15,094 --> 00:34:18,264 Said he came in every few days, sat at the same station. 741 00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:19,974 Since 9/11, they back up everything 742 00:34:20,016 --> 00:34:21,517 their customers do online. 743 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:25,313 These are messages and e-mail attachments from the Nigerians. 744 00:34:25,354 --> 00:34:26,564 We've seen all these before. 745 00:34:26,606 --> 00:34:29,942 You have. Except, they ain't from Nigeria. 746 00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:31,694 I don't understand. 747 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:34,489 Well, tracking Todd Monroe's online trail we came 748 00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:35,782 to a remote storage service 749 00:34:35,823 --> 00:34:37,408 where he kept hundreds of documents 750 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:40,495 from various Nigerian e-mail scams. 751 00:34:40,536 --> 00:34:43,081 'This folder is documents he collected' 752 00:34:43,122 --> 00:34:45,583 'by responding to actual scammers online.' 753 00:34:45,625 --> 00:34:47,877 and this folder is the same content 754 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,378 but with key details altered 755 00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:53,424 'like pastor Harris' name, the church, etc.' 756 00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:55,802 so the money didn't disappear to Nigeria? 757 00:34:55,843 --> 00:34:57,929 He bounced it around different proxy servers 758 00:34:57,970 --> 00:34:59,222 to make it look that way. 759 00:34:59,263 --> 00:35:01,265 You're saying he created this whole thing? 760 00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:02,934 There never were any Nigerians. 761 00:35:02,975 --> 00:35:05,353 It was Todd all along. 762 00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:08,064 [Sighs] 763 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:13,152 Because he knew pastor Harris personally 764 00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:15,488 Todd Monroe was able to tailor these documents 765 00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:16,989 to an extraordinary degree. 766 00:35:17,031 --> 00:35:18,157 For instance? 767 00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,786 For instance, in this e-mail he claimed a child 768 00:35:21,828 --> 00:35:23,663 'in his fictitious Nigerian church' 769 00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:26,666 'was healed from cancer after intensive prayer.' 770 00:35:26,707 --> 00:35:29,877 to which pastor Harris responded..."This is a miracle. 771 00:35:29,919 --> 00:35:32,713 "This past week my secretary Joan Monroe's breast cancer 772 00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:36,217 went into remission. God answers all our prayers." 773 00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:38,136 He played on his own mother's cancer? 774 00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:40,346 (Randall) 'It's all part of the affinity scam.' 775 00:35:40,388 --> 00:35:42,557 'building trust through a common set of beliefs.' 776 00:35:42,598 --> 00:35:45,351 in this way, he was able to advance his purpose 777 00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:46,477 with surprising speed. 778 00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:47,603 And his goal? 779 00:35:47,645 --> 00:35:51,065 - To acquire the building fund. - Hmm. 780 00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:52,150 What's that? 781 00:35:52,191 --> 00:35:54,610 Photocopies of Martha Harris' birth certificate 782 00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:57,155 'driver's license, social security card' 783 00:35:57,196 --> 00:35:58,489 'credit cards, bank statements.' 784 00:35:58,531 --> 00:36:00,283 'everything you need to steal her identity.' 785 00:36:00,324 --> 00:36:03,494 and why would he need Martha Harris' identity? 786 00:36:03,536 --> 00:36:05,997 To set up an offshore account. 787 00:36:08,374 --> 00:36:11,627 Whose idea was it to open a post office box together? 788 00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:12,503 Mrs. Harris'. 789 00:36:12,545 --> 00:36:14,046 She wanted a way to communicate 790 00:36:14,088 --> 00:36:15,381 with me without using the phone. 791 00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:18,551 In the time you spent with her, did Martha ever mention 792 00:36:18,593 --> 00:36:19,760 'the Nigerian scam?' 793 00:36:19,802 --> 00:36:21,029 she talked about it constantly. 794 00:36:21,053 --> 00:36:23,139 Her husband had gotten one of those letters. 795 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,849 He thought the whole thing was real. 796 00:36:24,891 --> 00:36:26,934 'She couldn't believe how gullible he was.' 797 00:36:26,976 --> 00:36:28,519 (Roberta) 'She knew it was a scam?' 798 00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:31,689 she said she'd seen a program on "60 minutes" about it. 799 00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:35,610 But then she got this idea to steal the church building fund. 800 00:36:35,651 --> 00:36:38,446 She wanted to pretend to be a Nigerian scammer 801 00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:41,032 'so that when she took the church building fund' 802 00:36:41,073 --> 00:36:42,533 'everyone, including pastor Harris' 803 00:36:42,575 --> 00:36:45,453 would think the Nigerians were the ones that took it. 804 00:36:45,494 --> 00:36:46,722 Which is exactly what happened. 805 00:36:46,746 --> 00:36:48,915 And did Mrs. Harris ever ask you 806 00:36:48,956 --> 00:36:50,708 if you'd help her with all this? 807 00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:52,501 She said I'd get half the building fund. 808 00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:55,588 (Roberta) 'Is that why you continued to see her?' 809 00:36:56,255 --> 00:36:57,798 - yes. - 'You used her?' 810 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,176 (Roberta) 'You took advantage of her loneliness.' 811 00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:01,802 (Todd) 'I'm not proud of it.' 812 00:37:01,844 --> 00:37:05,973 did she instruct you on how to alter the Nigerian documents? 813 00:37:06,015 --> 00:37:09,560 - She did. - Did you steal her identity? 814 00:37:09,602 --> 00:37:11,270 No, she gave me all her info. 815 00:37:11,312 --> 00:37:13,648 Asked me to open an account in her name. 816 00:37:13,689 --> 00:37:15,066 'She came up with everything.' 817 00:37:15,107 --> 00:37:17,151 did Mrs. Harris ever speak to you about 818 00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:19,362 why she wanted to steal the money? 819 00:37:19,403 --> 00:37:23,532 She wanted to get back at my mom and brother Jeff. 820 00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:25,534 (Roberta) 'Tell us what you mean by that.' 821 00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:27,954 she was convinced they were seeing each other. 822 00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:30,122 Your mother, Joan Monroe 823 00:37:30,164 --> 00:37:32,416 and pastor Harris having an affair. 824 00:37:32,458 --> 00:37:34,919 - 'And were they?' - No. 825 00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:36,212 But you couldn't tell her that. 826 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:39,382 She knew if she took that money, my mom and brother Jeff 827 00:37:39,423 --> 00:37:42,051 'would get blamed for the whole thing.' 828 00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:46,597 how did the nine millimeter pistol 829 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:49,767 that killed pastor Jeff Harris come to be in your car? 830 00:37:49,809 --> 00:37:51,852 Mrs. Harris and I would drive separately 831 00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:53,062 down to Madison to meet. 832 00:37:53,104 --> 00:37:55,398 She didn't like being in the car by herself. 833 00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:57,566 She asked me to get her some protection. 834 00:37:57,608 --> 00:37:59,151 So you stole your mom's gun? 835 00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:02,822 I borrowed my mom's pistol and I gave it to Mrs. Harris. 836 00:38:02,863 --> 00:38:05,616 The night brother Jeff was killed, she brought it back 837 00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:07,785 'to me. Said she didn't want it anymore.' 838 00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:09,036 'said it made her nervous.' 839 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:12,873 next thing I know, I'm arrested for murder. 840 00:38:12,915 --> 00:38:16,877 So you hear that pastor Harris has been killed 841 00:38:16,919 --> 00:38:18,087 and that his wife's missing. 842 00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:20,881 The same woman who brought back the gun to you. 843 00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:22,758 What do you do? Call the police? 844 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,176 - No. - Why not? 845 00:38:24,218 --> 00:38:26,512 I was afraid my mom would get blamed. 846 00:38:26,554 --> 00:38:28,806 Really? That's touching. 847 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:32,018 Where were you the morning after pastor Harris was killed? 848 00:38:32,059 --> 00:38:35,771 In church... Getting ready to play in the band. 849 00:38:35,813 --> 00:38:39,942 Isn't it true you went to church that morning to avoid suspicion? 850 00:38:39,984 --> 00:38:40,651 No. 851 00:38:40,693 --> 00:38:42,320 Didn't you flee two days later 852 00:38:42,361 --> 00:38:43,487 when Martha was arrested 853 00:38:43,529 --> 00:38:45,329 because you were concerned she'd identify you? 854 00:38:45,364 --> 00:38:48,909 Didn't you steal a license plate in Ohio to avoid getting caught? 855 00:38:48,951 --> 00:38:52,163 Weren't you taking the murder weapon with you to dispose of it 856 00:38:52,204 --> 00:38:54,498 as far from the crime scene as possible? 857 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:57,001 - No. - No? 858 00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,588 No further questions, your honor. 859 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:11,599 Todd Monroe came up with a brilliant plan. 860 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,352 He saw that if he spread the poisoned promise 861 00:39:14,393 --> 00:39:15,811 of nonexistent millions.. 862 00:39:15,853 --> 00:39:17,730 Remember, these people were already engaged 863 00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:19,648 in raising money to build a church. 864 00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:22,318 '...he could exploit them, and he did.' 865 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,863 he played his pastor, the pastor's wife 866 00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:27,448 even his own mother. 867 00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:30,409 And when pastor Harris called on that fatal night 868 00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:34,538 and said, "I know everything" 869 00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:36,207 Todd Monroe assumed the pastor 870 00:39:36,248 --> 00:39:38,918 'was talking about the money he'd just stolen' 871 00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:43,923 $267,000, the building fund. 872 00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:48,427 Todd Monroe was going to hang on to that money. 873 00:39:48,469 --> 00:39:51,597 He'd gone to a lot of trouble to get it. 874 00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:55,476 He had to shut pastor Harris up. 875 00:39:57,311 --> 00:39:59,522 So he shot him. 876 00:40:12,827 --> 00:40:17,957 Todd Monroe held pastor Harris in the highest regard. 877 00:40:17,998 --> 00:40:22,169 This was the man that had saved him from the ravages of alcohol. 878 00:40:22,211 --> 00:40:24,547 'In his care, Todd Monroe was learning' 879 00:40:24,588 --> 00:40:27,299 to believe in himself again. 880 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,804 But it was this very vulnerability 881 00:40:31,846 --> 00:40:34,557 that Martha Harris exploited. 882 00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:36,725 She hatched the plan to take the money. 883 00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:38,686 It was her jealousy, a jealousy so blind 884 00:40:38,727 --> 00:40:42,690 that it assumed an affair where there was none. 885 00:40:42,731 --> 00:40:47,653 'Ladies and gentlemen, Martha Harris had come undone.' 886 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,949 and my client was unlucky enough to be there 887 00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:53,325 to catch her when she fell. 888 00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:54,869 'And the prosecution knows all this.' 889 00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:57,913 'in fact, until recently, they had been building a case' 890 00:40:57,955 --> 00:41:00,958 against her. No wonder. 891 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,254 After all, there's an offshore account with all the money 892 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,923 from the church building fund with her name on it. 893 00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:11,510 Follow the money, ladies and gentlemen. 894 00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:16,432 It leads to Mrs. Harris, not Todd Monroe. 895 00:41:17,224 --> 00:41:20,269 Todd Monroe killed pastor Harris? 896 00:41:24,732 --> 00:41:26,984 Doesn't add up. 897 00:41:35,034 --> 00:41:38,120 [Dramatic music] 898 00:41:46,045 --> 00:41:49,340 The case of the state of Indiana vs. Todd Monroe Jr. 899 00:41:49,381 --> 00:41:51,342 On the count of murder 900 00:41:51,383 --> 00:41:54,470 the jury finds the defendant guilty. 901 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:55,804 [Bangs gavel] 902 00:42:03,437 --> 00:42:06,732 [Instrumental music] 903 00:42:23,749 --> 00:42:27,044 [Instrumental music] 904 00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:33,175 [Knocking on door] 905 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:34,593 [Door opens] 906 00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:37,137 I came by to thank you and Ms. Chase 907 00:42:37,179 --> 00:42:38,722 but she'd already gone. 908 00:42:38,764 --> 00:42:41,058 Oh, she has a little girl. 909 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,017 She's gone home. 910 00:42:42,059 --> 00:42:44,812 And what about you? You're here so late. 911 00:42:44,853 --> 00:42:48,816 Well, I don't have a child and I'm not married. 912 00:42:48,857 --> 00:42:51,735 I imagine it would be difficult to have a family 913 00:42:51,777 --> 00:42:54,113 and do what you do. 914 00:42:54,154 --> 00:42:56,156 Part of the job. 915 00:42:56,198 --> 00:42:58,867 Yeah, I gave my whole life to the church. 916 00:42:58,909 --> 00:43:01,120 That was my job. 917 00:43:03,831 --> 00:43:06,417 Do you regret it? 918 00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:08,419 Was it worth it? 919 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:10,588 [Instrumental music] 920 00:43:10,629 --> 00:43:12,798 Yes, it was. 921 00:43:15,467 --> 00:43:18,679 Please tell Ms. Chase I came by. 922 00:43:18,721 --> 00:43:20,889 I will. 923 00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:25,436 [Music continues] 924 00:43:38,073 --> 00:43:41,327 [Music continues] 925 00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:14,340 (Female narrator) Stay tuned for scenes from our next episode. 926 00:44:14,777 --> 00:44:17,363 [Theme music] 927 00:44:26,538 --> 00:44:29,833 [Music continues] 71364

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