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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,699 --> 00:00:34,035 Has anybody talked to you at all about what we're doing? 2 00:00:34,135 --> 00:00:37,038 You just got dragged here? Yeah. 3 00:00:37,138 --> 00:00:39,708 Okay, we're gonna tell you a little bit. 4 00:00:39,808 --> 00:00:43,344 This is a documentary we're doing for public television. 5 00:00:43,445 --> 00:00:45,747 It's called Black Is... Black Ain't. 6 00:00:47,482 --> 00:00:49,184 We've finally begun production on this project. 7 00:00:49,284 --> 00:00:51,553 Two hundred and twenty five. 8 00:00:51,653 --> 00:00:55,156 - I thought the number would be higher... - T-cell count slipped back down. 9 00:00:55,256 --> 00:00:57,525 - ...but I don't feel well. - Weight down too. 10 00:00:57,625 --> 00:00:59,427 I'm worried, but keep this to myself. 11 00:00:59,527 --> 00:01:02,564 My weight and T-cell count are the same. 12 00:01:02,664 --> 00:01:04,733 What's happening to my body? 13 00:01:04,833 --> 00:01:08,136 AIDS forces you, because of the likelihood 14 00:01:08,236 --> 00:01:10,872 that you could die at this moment — 15 00:01:10,972 --> 00:01:13,308 AIDS forces you to deal with that 16 00:01:13,408 --> 00:01:16,611 and to look around you and say, 17 00:01:16,711 --> 00:01:22,083 "Hey, I'm wasting my time if I'm not devoting every moment 18 00:01:22,183 --> 00:01:26,554 to thinking about, how can I communicate to Black people, 19 00:01:26,654 --> 00:01:29,524 so that we start to look at each other, 20 00:01:29,624 --> 00:01:31,025 we start to see each other?" 21 00:01:31,126 --> 00:01:33,561 Black is... Black ain't. Black is... Black ain't. 22 00:01:33,661 --> 00:01:35,463 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 23 00:01:35,563 --> 00:01:37,465 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 24 00:01:37,565 --> 00:01:39,334 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 25 00:01:39,434 --> 00:01:41,269 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 26 00:01:41,369 --> 00:01:43,238 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 27 00:01:43,338 --> 00:01:45,240 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 28 00:01:45,340 --> 00:01:47,208 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 29 00:01:47,308 --> 00:01:49,144 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 30 00:01:49,244 --> 00:01:50,945 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 31 00:01:51,045 --> 00:01:52,747 - Black is... Black ain't. - Black is... Black ain't. 32 00:01:54,182 --> 00:01:56,151 ♪ Well ♪ 33 00:01:56,251 --> 00:01:59,120 - Oh! Come on, now. Come on! - Hallelujah! 34 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:02,323 Yes, now! Tell it! 35 00:02:02,423 --> 00:02:07,629 ♪ I say, Black is ♪ 36 00:02:07,729 --> 00:02:09,597 ♪ And Black ain't ♪ 37 00:02:09,664 --> 00:02:11,800 ♪ Black is ♪ 38 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:14,002 ♪ And Black ain't ♪ 39 00:02:14,102 --> 00:02:16,671 ♪ Black is blue ♪ 40 00:02:16,771 --> 00:02:18,907 ♪ Black is red ♪ 41 00:02:19,007 --> 00:02:22,110 - ♪ And Black is tan ♪ - Black will get you! 42 00:02:22,210 --> 00:02:23,545 ♪ And Black is light ♪ 43 00:02:23,645 --> 00:02:26,915 ♪ And Black will leave you alone ♪ 44 00:02:27,015 --> 00:02:30,018 ♪ Black can get you over ♪ 45 00:02:30,118 --> 00:02:32,220 ♪ Black can set you down ♪ 46 00:02:32,987 --> 00:02:36,224 ♪ Black can let you move forward ♪ 47 00:02:36,324 --> 00:02:38,860 ♪ And Black will make you stumble around ♪ 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,829 Black is so high! 49 00:02:41,863 --> 00:02:44,933 And Black is so low. 50 00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:48,069 Black can say yes! 51 00:02:48,736 --> 00:02:52,640 - And Black can say no. - Black can be your best friend! 52 00:02:53,808 --> 00:02:57,045 - Be cozy as the night! - Tell it! 53 00:02:57,145 --> 00:02:59,714 ♪ Black can do you in ♪ 54 00:02:59,814 --> 00:03:02,450 ♪ Make you fuss and cuss and fight ♪ 55 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:05,119 - ♪ Black is Black ♪ - Preach now! 56 00:03:05,854 --> 00:03:08,389 - ♪ And Black is blue ♪ - Tell the truth! 57 00:03:08,489 --> 00:03:11,092 ♪ Black is bright ♪ 58 00:03:13,094 --> 00:03:15,063 ♪ Black is you ♪ 59 00:03:26,541 --> 00:03:30,211 To tell the truth, there's nothing better in this world 60 00:03:30,311 --> 00:03:32,013 than my Big Mama's gumbo. 61 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:36,217 I guess it's because it's got a little bit of everything in it. 62 00:03:37,018 --> 00:03:39,320 Well, there goes the gumbo. 63 00:03:41,956 --> 00:03:46,327 Everything that you can imagine can be put into gumbo — 64 00:03:46,427 --> 00:03:48,529 shrimp, crayfish, 65 00:03:49,664 --> 00:03:51,833 sausage, alligator sausage, 66 00:03:51,933 --> 00:03:53,668 pork sausage, crab. 67 00:03:53,768 --> 00:03:54,936 What does Black mean? 68 00:03:55,036 --> 00:03:59,974 It seems very difficult to define in any absolute sense 69 00:04:00,074 --> 00:04:01,709 what it means to be Black. 70 00:04:01,809 --> 00:04:03,144 Seasoned just nicely. 71 00:04:03,244 --> 00:04:05,213 You don't want the broth to overpower the roux. 72 00:04:05,313 --> 00:04:09,651 Cook it, and it just has a nice sort of aromatic flavor with the spices. 73 00:04:09,751 --> 00:04:13,755 The most definitive identity any Black person has is Blackness. 74 00:04:13,855 --> 00:04:16,491 If it gets too thick, it's like you're tasting that, 75 00:04:16,591 --> 00:04:19,894 but you can't really get to the ingredients that make the gumbo. 76 00:04:19,994 --> 00:04:21,829 There are as many kind of Black people 77 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:23,231 as there are Black people to be. 78 00:04:23,331 --> 00:04:25,633 There are so many variations on the theme. 79 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:28,836 Cooks all night and all day. Ooh, it's wonderful. 80 00:04:28,937 --> 00:04:32,240 And it's just inviting. You walk in and it's like... 81 00:04:32,307 --> 00:04:33,574 Mmm! 82 00:04:34,309 --> 00:04:37,078 Come on here to the kitchen. 83 00:04:42,583 --> 00:04:45,219 When I was a boy, the nation was in turmoil. 84 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,421 Though, to be honest, 85 00:04:46,521 --> 00:04:50,124 much of what was going on was at the periphery of my life. 86 00:04:50,224 --> 00:04:53,194 Still, I was aware enough of the changes 87 00:04:53,294 --> 00:04:55,930 to try to convince one of my friends one day 88 00:04:56,030 --> 00:05:00,268 that it was time for him to stop using the word "colored." 89 00:05:00,802 --> 00:05:05,807 "Edward Lee," I said, "you ain't colored no mo'. 90 00:05:05,873 --> 00:05:07,375 You Black." 91 00:05:07,475 --> 00:05:09,978 "No, I ain't," he shot back. 92 00:05:10,078 --> 00:05:12,914 "Yes, you is," I said. 93 00:05:13,014 --> 00:05:16,718 "No, I ain't," he insisted. 94 00:05:16,818 --> 00:05:20,855 Now, to be real, Edward Lee was so dark 95 00:05:20,955 --> 00:05:24,392 he could have passed as one of the original Africans. 96 00:05:24,492 --> 00:05:29,897 But back then it was an insult to call somebody "African" or "Black," 97 00:05:29,998 --> 00:05:32,033 so I knew why he was upset. 98 00:05:32,133 --> 00:05:35,436 Still, I wanted him to see the new light. 99 00:05:35,536 --> 00:05:38,506 "Edward Lee, you Black." 100 00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:43,644 "Colored — No one is colored anymo'. 101 00:05:43,745 --> 00:05:46,614 'Colored' is the white man's word. 102 00:05:47,415 --> 00:05:51,219 You Black and should be proud." 103 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:53,955 "Take it back," he said. 104 00:05:54,055 --> 00:05:55,456 "No, I'm not." 105 00:05:56,591 --> 00:05:59,427 "Take it back," he repeated, tense. 106 00:06:00,361 --> 00:06:03,164 "For what? It's the truth!" 107 00:06:03,965 --> 00:06:05,900 "Take it back, 108 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,803 or I'll beat yo' Black ass." 109 00:06:09,871 --> 00:06:11,139 "Uh-oh." 110 00:06:13,141 --> 00:06:14,809 Edward Lee was big. 111 00:06:15,777 --> 00:06:18,012 I started moving backwards. 112 00:06:18,112 --> 00:06:22,050 "Edward Lee, I don't know why you so mad. 113 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:24,419 Ain't nothing to get mad about. 114 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:27,755 Black is b-beautiful. 115 00:06:27,855 --> 00:06:31,959 You Black. I'm Black. My mama's Black." 116 00:06:33,161 --> 00:06:35,763 Now that stopped him. 117 00:06:35,863 --> 00:06:41,469 Anybody so willing to insult his own mama must be serious. 118 00:06:41,569 --> 00:06:45,339 That day, I escaped Edward Lee's punches 119 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,110 and held my own all at the same time. 120 00:06:49,210 --> 00:06:50,545 I was proud. 121 00:06:54,682 --> 00:06:58,486 I think Norman of Australia leads with John Carlos. 122 00:06:58,586 --> 00:07:00,088 At the award ceremony 123 00:07:00,188 --> 00:07:03,124 came the symbolic protest by Smith and Carlos, 124 00:07:03,224 --> 00:07:04,959 each wearing a black glove, 125 00:07:05,059 --> 00:07:08,329 holding fists aloft and bowing their heads during the anthem. 126 00:07:08,429 --> 00:07:12,433 Later, they were dismissed from the team and sent home by the US Olympic Committee. 127 00:07:12,533 --> 00:07:14,202 For the longest, of course, 128 00:07:14,302 --> 00:07:17,705 being Black wasn't always so beautiful. 129 00:07:19,941 --> 00:07:23,211 A 16th-century Oxford dictionary 130 00:07:23,311 --> 00:07:28,783 provides a clue to the word's meaning before we redefined it. 131 00:07:29,417 --> 00:07:32,620 "Black: deeply stained with dirt. 132 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,857 Soiled, dirty, foul." 133 00:07:35,957 --> 00:07:39,360 "Having dark or deadly purposes, malignant." 134 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:42,663 "Black: pertaining to, or involving death. 135 00:07:42,763 --> 00:07:46,000 Deadly, baneful, disastrous, sinister." 136 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:50,972 "Iniquitous, atrocious, horrible, wicked." 137 00:07:51,072 --> 00:07:52,473 - "Black." - Black! 138 00:07:52,573 --> 00:07:54,408 "Indicating disgrace, 139 00:07:54,509 --> 00:07:58,346 censure, liability to punishment." 140 00:07:59,313 --> 00:08:01,616 And remember the children's rhymes? 141 00:08:02,250 --> 00:08:03,818 ♪ Jump back, Jack ♪ 142 00:08:03,918 --> 00:08:05,486 ♪ Your hands too black ♪ 143 00:08:05,586 --> 00:08:07,722 ♪ Look like you been working On a railroad track ♪ 144 00:08:07,822 --> 00:08:09,524 ♪ Clickety-clack Clickety-clack, clickety-clack ♪ 145 00:08:09,624 --> 00:08:11,659 ♪ Jump back, Jack Your hands too black ♪ 146 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:13,728 ♪ Look like you working On a railroad track ♪ 147 00:08:13,828 --> 00:08:16,030 ♪ Clickety-clack, clickety-clack Clickety-clack ♪ 148 00:08:16,130 --> 00:08:17,632 ♪ If you're red, go ahead ♪ 149 00:08:17,732 --> 00:08:19,200 ♪ If you're brown, stick around ♪ 150 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:20,935 ♪ If you're Black, get back ♪ 151 00:08:21,035 --> 00:08:22,403 ♪ If you're yellow, you're mellow ♪ 152 00:08:22,503 --> 00:08:23,938 ♪ If you're white, you're right ♪ 153 00:08:24,038 --> 00:08:25,873 ♪ If you're Black, get back ♪ 154 00:08:25,973 --> 00:08:28,342 ♪ If you're red, go ahead If you're brown, stick around ♪ 155 00:08:28,442 --> 00:08:30,144 ♪ If you're Black, get back ♪ 156 00:08:30,244 --> 00:08:31,679 ♪ If you're yellow, you're mellow ♪ 157 00:08:31,779 --> 00:08:33,247 ♪ If you're white, you're right ♪ 158 00:08:33,347 --> 00:08:34,782 ♪ If you're Black, get back ♪ 159 00:08:34,882 --> 00:08:36,751 People used all kinds of terms 160 00:08:36,851 --> 00:08:38,653 to avoid saying "Black." 161 00:08:38,753 --> 00:08:42,990 You could be dark brown, medium brown — ridiculous things. 162 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:45,993 But definitely there was not the concept 163 00:08:46,093 --> 00:08:48,429 of "Black is beautiful" that later evolved. 164 00:08:48,529 --> 00:08:52,767 When I was growing up, as was your experience, 165 00:08:52,867 --> 00:08:56,771 you didn't call anybody Black unless you were ready to fight. 166 00:08:56,871 --> 00:09:00,608 And the very worst thing you could call somebody was a Black African. 167 00:09:00,708 --> 00:09:04,145 Right? "You Black African." Oh, yeah. 168 00:09:04,245 --> 00:09:07,181 That was a fighting piece. "Don't call me Black. I don't like that." 169 00:09:07,281 --> 00:09:08,983 Why I didn't like it? 170 00:09:10,585 --> 00:09:12,153 Because... 171 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,691 people in my community of a different color 172 00:09:16,791 --> 00:09:19,160 made me feel so inferior. 173 00:09:19,260 --> 00:09:21,495 "Why your hair so kinky?" 174 00:09:22,129 --> 00:09:24,632 - "Why your lips so big?" - ♪ If you're red, go ahead ♪ 175 00:09:24,732 --> 00:09:27,034 - ♪ If you're brown, stick around ♪ - "Why your nose is so big?" 176 00:09:27,134 --> 00:09:29,503 ♪ If you're Black, get back If you're yellow, you're mellow ♪ 177 00:09:29,604 --> 00:09:32,273 ♪ If you're white, you're right If you're Black, get back ♪ 178 00:09:32,373 --> 00:09:36,277 ♪ Black is beautiful Free Huey ♪ 179 00:09:36,377 --> 00:09:40,348 ♪ Said I want him free Free Huey ♪ 180 00:09:40,448 --> 00:09:44,518 ♪ Black is beautiful Free Huey ♪ 181 00:09:44,619 --> 00:09:48,789 In the '60s, we began to say Black was beautiful. 182 00:09:48,889 --> 00:09:54,362 That was a slogan that indicated a politics of struggle. 183 00:09:54,462 --> 00:09:56,764 ♪ Said I want him free Free Huey ♪ 184 00:09:56,864 --> 00:10:00,668 But later on in life, I learned that this nose was good and pretty. 185 00:10:01,335 --> 00:10:04,739 One guy came along, name of Stokely Carmichael, 186 00:10:04,839 --> 00:10:06,741 said, "Black is beautiful." 187 00:10:07,541 --> 00:10:11,045 And then we realized that Black is beautiful. 188 00:10:11,145 --> 00:10:15,449 This kinky hair could go in all kinds of ways. 189 00:10:15,549 --> 00:10:18,819 This nice, brown chocolate skin, 190 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,456 looks so nice, could be all kinds of color, you know? 191 00:10:22,556 --> 00:10:26,460 And then we begin to realize that, I am somebody. 192 00:10:28,129 --> 00:10:30,398 How does it feel to be back in the hospital? 193 00:10:30,498 --> 00:10:33,534 I'm not happy to be back here, you know. 194 00:10:33,634 --> 00:10:36,137 It's hard. It's boring. 195 00:10:36,237 --> 00:10:39,674 It's like one week of it and I'm just bored. 196 00:10:39,774 --> 00:10:44,545 It's like, how did I endure six months of it last year, 197 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:48,416 you know, from November to May or so? 198 00:10:48,516 --> 00:10:50,785 And already here, now, I wanna get out. 199 00:10:58,225 --> 00:11:03,230 When I was a boy, every year we took a trip to Louisiana, 200 00:11:03,331 --> 00:11:06,000 where most of my cousins lived. 201 00:11:07,101 --> 00:11:11,339 It was a journey I always looked forward to. 202 00:11:11,439 --> 00:11:15,076 My family ranged from every shade. 203 00:11:15,176 --> 00:11:16,811 Every shade you could imagine. 204 00:11:16,911 --> 00:11:21,415 Now, in Baton Rouge, all of us were a little bit darker. 205 00:11:22,283 --> 00:11:25,986 But if you crossed the river to New Orleans, 206 00:11:26,087 --> 00:11:28,522 all of the family was lighter. 207 00:11:28,622 --> 00:11:32,526 In fact, some of them so light, they could pass as white. 208 00:11:32,626 --> 00:11:35,463 But I just — You know, I didn't even think about it. 209 00:11:45,139 --> 00:11:49,210 ♪ Yeah, I wanna go home But I can't get back ♪ 210 00:11:49,310 --> 00:11:50,544 ♪ I wanna get back... ♪ 211 00:11:50,644 --> 00:11:53,681 I grew up very confused. I really did. 212 00:11:53,781 --> 00:11:56,317 You know, I never really talk about this much, 213 00:11:56,417 --> 00:11:57,651 but I did grow up confused 214 00:11:57,752 --> 00:12:01,455 because I didn't exactly know where I actually fit in in the world. 215 00:12:01,555 --> 00:12:04,859 Because we were never taught to consider ourselves to be Black. 216 00:12:06,794 --> 00:12:10,698 When we reach the mulatto group, we begin to get two extreme types, 217 00:12:10,798 --> 00:12:15,069 which, for convenience, we shall call dominants and recessives, 218 00:12:15,169 --> 00:12:18,639 and a third type, which we shall call intermediate. 219 00:12:18,739 --> 00:12:21,609 Black is... Black ain't. Black is... Black ain't. 220 00:12:21,709 --> 00:12:24,211 I could not use the word "Black" to describe my father. 221 00:12:24,311 --> 00:12:26,013 If I ever called my father Black, 222 00:12:26,113 --> 00:12:29,116 you know, I would have got a spanking or possibly worse, 223 00:12:29,216 --> 00:12:32,353 because he did not consider himself to be Black. 224 00:12:32,453 --> 00:12:35,423 He did not want to be Black. He was Creole. 225 00:12:36,957 --> 00:12:41,629 When I was growing up, I heard people who were white 226 00:12:41,729 --> 00:12:43,531 call themselves Creole. 227 00:12:43,631 --> 00:12:46,967 I heard people who were Black call themselves Creole. 228 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:51,238 I heard these people speak to each other every day in Creole, 229 00:12:51,338 --> 00:12:53,607 and the people who called themselves Creole 230 00:12:53,707 --> 00:12:55,509 ranged the whole color gamut. 231 00:12:59,947 --> 00:13:02,349 How much? 232 00:13:04,385 --> 00:13:06,220 - You speak it also? - Yeah. 233 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,088 I speak a little Italian and French. 234 00:13:08,189 --> 00:13:11,592 - Are you a Creole? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm supposed to be. 235 00:13:11,692 --> 00:13:13,661 You're supposed to be? What does that mean? 236 00:13:13,761 --> 00:13:16,597 - Well, that's what my people told me. - That's what they told you? 237 00:13:16,697 --> 00:13:17,998 - What does it mean? - What? 238 00:13:18,098 --> 00:13:21,101 - What does that mean, "Creole"? - That means a little French, and then... 239 00:13:22,136 --> 00:13:23,804 kind of mixed up, a little French. 240 00:13:23,904 --> 00:13:25,172 - Really? - Mm-hmm. 241 00:13:25,272 --> 00:13:26,707 Does it have anything to do with being 242 00:13:26,807 --> 00:13:28,542 a light-skinned or a dark-skinned Black person? 243 00:13:28,642 --> 00:13:32,379 Oh, no, no. They got people darker than you that's Creole. 244 00:13:33,047 --> 00:13:36,917 And later, as I grew up and started being able 245 00:13:37,017 --> 00:13:40,921 to move a little bit beyond my neighborhood, 246 00:13:41,021 --> 00:13:43,591 I learned about some people 247 00:13:43,691 --> 00:13:47,862 who had concepts of Creole as something other than cultural, 248 00:13:47,962 --> 00:13:52,366 who had concepts of Creole as maybe being a racial 249 00:13:52,466 --> 00:13:55,669 or a biological heritage. 250 00:13:55,769 --> 00:13:57,905 ♪ This fable of elements ♪ 251 00:13:58,005 --> 00:14:01,609 ♪ Which classify order Species, subspecies ♪ 252 00:14:01,709 --> 00:14:03,978 ♪ Genus, phyla, animal, vegetable ♪ 253 00:14:04,078 --> 00:14:06,213 ♪ Illegal chemical, socialist ♪ 254 00:14:06,313 --> 00:14:07,915 ♪ Democrat, Republican ♪ 255 00:14:08,015 --> 00:14:10,618 ♪ Yuppie, buppy, guppy, proud racist ♪ 256 00:14:10,718 --> 00:14:12,219 ♪ Black, white, African ♪ 257 00:14:12,319 --> 00:14:15,623 ♪ Native American, Irish and German ♪ 258 00:14:17,758 --> 00:14:20,127 My family used to have picnics out in the country, 259 00:14:20,227 --> 00:14:23,464 and they would turn dark-skinned Black people away. 260 00:14:25,466 --> 00:14:27,468 They would not let them come in. 261 00:14:27,568 --> 00:14:31,639 My grandfather had a first cousin who was blind who lived in Baton Rouge, 262 00:14:31,739 --> 00:14:33,374 and they would seat him at the door. 263 00:14:33,474 --> 00:14:34,909 But he would take a comb, 264 00:14:35,009 --> 00:14:37,044 and if he couldn't pass the comb through your hair, 265 00:14:37,144 --> 00:14:38,512 you couldn't come in. 266 00:14:40,648 --> 00:14:42,816 In this study, six degrees of curvature, 267 00:14:42,917 --> 00:14:45,853 or types of hair form, are recognized: 268 00:14:45,953 --> 00:14:51,659 straight, low waves, deep waves, curly, frizzly and woolly. 269 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:54,461 My friends used to tease me and my hair. 270 00:14:54,562 --> 00:14:56,330 One of the things I do remember 271 00:14:56,430 --> 00:15:00,334 was going to a Brownie camp or Girl Scout camp, 272 00:15:00,434 --> 00:15:04,071 um, outside of Birmingham, and it started to rain. 273 00:15:04,171 --> 00:15:07,508 You know, all the girls who had probably 274 00:15:07,608 --> 00:15:10,644 just had their hair straightened for camp, right, 275 00:15:11,579 --> 00:15:14,048 uh, started to run. 276 00:15:14,148 --> 00:15:17,451 And, um, I didn't run 277 00:15:17,551 --> 00:15:20,287 'cause my mother wouldn't let me straighten my hair, 278 00:15:20,387 --> 00:15:21,789 as much as I wanted to. 279 00:15:21,889 --> 00:15:23,724 And I remember the girls teasing me — 280 00:15:23,824 --> 00:15:27,795 "Oh, you just think you got good hair. You don't have to get out of the rain." 281 00:15:27,895 --> 00:15:30,831 The good hair was the hair that didn't require the straightening, 282 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:33,534 and the bad hair was the hair that did require the straightening. 283 00:15:33,634 --> 00:15:37,271 I just didn't like setting my hair and pampering myself like that, 284 00:15:37,371 --> 00:15:39,006 so I decided to go natural. 285 00:15:39,106 --> 00:15:43,777 Mama would say, "What you gonna do with your hair?" 286 00:15:43,877 --> 00:15:46,280 Uh, I'd say, "I'm gonna leave it like it is. 287 00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:48,382 This is my natural hair." 288 00:15:49,116 --> 00:15:52,753 One of my aunts said, "You look like an African." 289 00:15:52,853 --> 00:15:57,224 So I start making gyrations, you know, start dancing. 290 00:16:00,194 --> 00:16:02,096 When I came along, it was "Negro." 291 00:16:02,196 --> 00:16:04,598 Later on, it changed to "Black." 292 00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:07,901 Later on, it changed to "Afro-American." 293 00:16:08,002 --> 00:16:10,270 I don't know what we gonna change to next, 294 00:16:10,371 --> 00:16:12,306 but we've been changing so fast 295 00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:14,708 I don't think we know what we are ourselves. 296 00:16:14,808 --> 00:16:18,412 I think we have such an obsession with naming ourselves 297 00:16:18,512 --> 00:16:22,316 because during most of our history we've been named by somebody else. 298 00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:26,453 I am Black, female, 299 00:16:26,553 --> 00:16:28,889 Catholic, colored, 300 00:16:28,989 --> 00:16:32,860 Negro, African, American. 301 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,763 So it is all those things together. 302 00:16:35,863 --> 00:16:39,700 All of those words, when we took them into our own culture, 303 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,370 became, I think, affirmations of who we are, 304 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:48,575 rather than ways by which society at large put us down. 305 00:16:59,386 --> 00:17:01,355 AIDS is central to the catalyst 306 00:17:01,455 --> 00:17:06,727 that's pushing me to deal with identity on the global perspective. 307 00:17:06,827 --> 00:17:11,732 The connection between AIDS and Black folks 308 00:17:11,832 --> 00:17:15,069 and Black folks' identity is metaphoric. 309 00:17:15,169 --> 00:17:18,205 Both of them are a struggle against the odds 310 00:17:18,305 --> 00:17:20,507 in the face of adversity, 311 00:17:20,607 --> 00:17:23,377 in the face of possible extinction. 312 00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:26,447 How do we keep ourselves together as a people 313 00:17:26,547 --> 00:17:28,949 in the face of all our differences? 314 00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:33,554 How do we maintain a sense of communal selfhood, if you will? 315 00:17:34,621 --> 00:17:37,991 Who's in the community and who's not? 316 00:17:38,092 --> 00:17:42,329 I mean, there has been a history of excluding other Black folk 317 00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:46,300 from community in this country 318 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,371 to the detriment, I think, of our empowerment as an overall people. 319 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:52,906 Okay, you may begin. 320 00:17:53,907 --> 00:17:57,611 ♪ To be young, gifted and Black ♪ 321 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:05,652 ♪ Oh, what a lovely, precious dream... ♪ 322 00:18:05,753 --> 00:18:10,357 My picture's about when I am a doctor 323 00:18:10,457 --> 00:18:13,794 and I'm about to go to dinner at the hospital, 324 00:18:13,894 --> 00:18:15,729 which they have in the lunchroom. 325 00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:21,068 The song provokes painful... 326 00:18:22,102 --> 00:18:25,105 Health, innocence, 327 00:18:25,205 --> 00:18:28,442 the feeling of possibilities. 328 00:18:28,542 --> 00:18:32,012 Weren't we all so eager and capable then, 329 00:18:32,112 --> 00:18:35,482 each one of us, to uplift the race? 330 00:18:35,549 --> 00:18:36,984 Jubilation. 331 00:18:37,084 --> 00:18:39,453 We want Black power. 332 00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:43,690 We want Black power. We want Black power. 333 00:18:43,791 --> 00:18:45,993 - We want Black power. - Black power! 334 00:18:46,093 --> 00:18:47,561 Contradiction. 335 00:18:47,661 --> 00:18:50,430 All the time we were saying it loud 336 00:18:50,531 --> 00:18:53,033 and proclaiming the beauty of our Blackness, 337 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:58,605 a deep wedge of silence divided me from my father. 338 00:18:59,373 --> 00:19:01,875 We didn't talk. Literally. 339 00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:06,747 Like so many other Black boys and their fathers, 340 00:19:06,847 --> 00:19:11,251 we confronted each other across a chasm of silence. 341 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,088 "If there were seven blind men 342 00:19:15,189 --> 00:19:16,824 "One of them unable to speak 343 00:19:16,924 --> 00:19:19,059 "Unable to hear, would be my father 344 00:19:19,159 --> 00:19:20,194 "My father 345 00:19:20,294 --> 00:19:22,429 "He would be the one promising to deliver 346 00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:25,599 - "Promising to deliver - "What never arrives 347 00:19:25,699 --> 00:19:29,603 "He would be the bridge, which on one side I stand feeling doomed 348 00:19:29,703 --> 00:19:31,872 - "Unable to speak - "To never forgive him 349 00:19:31,972 --> 00:19:34,341 - "Unable to hear - "For the violence in our pasts 350 00:19:34,441 --> 00:19:35,475 "Forgive him 351 00:19:35,576 --> 00:19:39,680 "While on the other side, he vigorously waves to me to cross over 352 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:41,014 "Promising to deliver 353 00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:43,150 - "But he doesn't know - "Forgive him 354 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:45,352 "The bridge has fallen through 355 00:19:45,452 --> 00:19:49,289 "If there were seven blind men, the one unable to hear 356 00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:51,992 - "He would be the one - "Would be my father 357 00:19:52,092 --> 00:19:53,627 "The one unable to speak 358 00:19:53,727 --> 00:19:55,762 - "Feeling doomed - His son." 359 00:20:00,167 --> 00:20:03,670 At that time, to be a Black man 360 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:06,406 required this code of silence. 361 00:20:07,541 --> 00:20:09,509 You didn't express feelings. 362 00:20:09,610 --> 00:20:11,245 You weren't hurt. 363 00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:16,116 You couldn't acknowledge hurt and pain and rage and anger. 364 00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:20,287 And what that engendered was silence. 365 00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:23,090 No one talked to each other, 366 00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:26,026 'cause that would have been admitting vulnerability, 367 00:20:26,126 --> 00:20:30,364 and vulnerability was associated with being feminine. 368 00:20:32,699 --> 00:20:37,838 Black masculinity, Black manhood. 369 00:20:38,639 --> 00:20:43,310 Isn't that ultimately what it became all about? 370 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:48,749 The redemption of an emasculated male identity. 371 00:20:49,917 --> 00:20:53,053 When we translate the history of Black oppression sexually, 372 00:20:53,153 --> 00:20:56,990 especially through the writings of George Jackson, Eldridge Cleaver, 373 00:20:57,090 --> 00:21:01,728 it's all sexualized into emasculation and castration, 374 00:21:01,828 --> 00:21:07,100 so the reclamation of the Black race gets translated into "it's a dick thing." 375 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,435 That's why I'm fond of saying, 376 00:21:08,535 --> 00:21:11,038 "If the Black thing is really a dick thing in disguise, 377 00:21:11,138 --> 00:21:12,639 we're in serious trouble." 378 00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:15,609 Because it is like a kind of worship of the phallus. 379 00:21:15,709 --> 00:21:19,880 You can buy into the popular stereotypes and run around holding your dick 380 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:23,016 and thinking you gotta fuck everything in sight 381 00:21:23,116 --> 00:21:25,052 to prove that you are a man, 382 00:21:25,152 --> 00:21:28,221 to prove that you have that stamina and that virility 383 00:21:28,322 --> 00:21:29,756 and you're not to be fucked with. 384 00:21:29,856 --> 00:21:32,459 We are men. All men do it. 385 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:36,129 We have to do it. We are men. It is a man thing. 386 00:21:36,229 --> 00:21:40,100 Men must find and conquer as much pussy as they can get. 387 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,369 Do not think for two seconds that you're the only one... 388 00:21:42,469 --> 00:21:45,238 That's why, for example, Eddie Murphy's Raw fascinated me. 389 00:21:45,339 --> 00:21:47,841 I mean, when he says in that film 390 00:21:47,941 --> 00:21:51,078 that a woman doesn't want to hear that you love her, 391 00:21:51,178 --> 00:21:53,580 she wants to know you will fuck her to death. 392 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,215 And he's doing that — You know. 393 00:21:55,315 --> 00:21:58,719 And in the audience when I saw that, Black men were giving Black power salutes, 394 00:21:58,819 --> 00:22:02,289 and I was thinking, "Damn, this is just so serious, 395 00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:04,491 this idea that, you know, 396 00:22:04,591 --> 00:22:09,629 we need to reclaim the space of that erect, brutalizing phallus 397 00:22:09,730 --> 00:22:11,465 as our identity as a people." 398 00:22:11,565 --> 00:22:15,769 The dominant conception of being a Black male today 399 00:22:15,869 --> 00:22:20,240 is still one in which the body is highly sexualized, 400 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:25,912 in which one identifies with a certain kind of sexual prowess, 401 00:22:26,013 --> 00:22:28,815 in which one does, in fact, 402 00:22:28,915 --> 00:22:33,387 feel as if one is an object of fear, 403 00:22:33,487 --> 00:22:35,355 at times, disgust, 404 00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:37,958 not just from white America — much of white America — 405 00:22:38,058 --> 00:22:40,627 but from Black America as well. 406 00:22:40,727 --> 00:22:44,097 And hence, I think it's very difficult, 407 00:22:44,731 --> 00:22:49,102 uh, you know, being a Black male, getting in contact with one's humanity. 408 00:22:49,202 --> 00:22:51,471 It's very, very difficult. 409 00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:53,907 What about the heart? 410 00:22:54,007 --> 00:22:56,977 What about his mind? What about his vision? 411 00:22:57,077 --> 00:23:02,249 Couldn't be sensitive, couldn't cry, couldn't be afraid 412 00:23:02,349 --> 00:23:05,419 because of these notions I had about what it meant to be a Black man. 413 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:08,121 I didn't like being pounded into the ground. 414 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:11,725 That wasn't my idea of becoming a man. 415 00:23:11,825 --> 00:23:14,895 I know that for myself, in growing up, a lot of times, 416 00:23:14,995 --> 00:23:19,032 it was just a survival technique to be able to put on that toughness. 417 00:23:19,132 --> 00:23:20,834 ♪ 'Cause it ain't nothing like suburbia ♪ 418 00:23:20,934 --> 00:23:23,203 ♪ 'Cause in my hood a young soldier Might murder ya ♪ 419 00:23:23,303 --> 00:23:25,839 ♪ It's kinda sick when you're watching Your partner get killed... ♪ 420 00:23:25,939 --> 00:23:29,509 I'll play some basketball. I'll play some football. Get some pussy. 421 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:33,447 You know, I'll beat up a few people. I'll run in a gang. Just be a boy. 422 00:23:33,547 --> 00:23:37,050 You know, that's — that's — Be a boy on his way to being a man. 423 00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:41,054 I'm a young man, but I ain't a man yet. 424 00:23:42,389 --> 00:23:44,825 'Cause there's still some stuff I'm not responsible for. 425 00:23:44,925 --> 00:23:46,993 I don't take responsibility for some of my actions, 426 00:23:47,094 --> 00:23:49,396 so I guess I ain't a man yet, you know. 427 00:23:49,496 --> 00:23:50,897 I'm a young man. 428 00:23:52,332 --> 00:23:53,967 That's how I see myself. 429 00:23:54,868 --> 00:23:56,436 What about you all? 430 00:23:56,536 --> 00:23:57,804 I'm a young man, too. 431 00:23:57,904 --> 00:24:00,240 What does manhood mean to you, though? 432 00:24:00,907 --> 00:24:02,175 Well... 433 00:24:03,176 --> 00:24:04,478 I don't know. 434 00:24:07,547 --> 00:24:09,282 Black manhood. 435 00:24:09,382 --> 00:24:13,253 Black masculinity. 436 00:24:13,353 --> 00:24:15,822 Historical sore spots. 437 00:24:15,922 --> 00:24:19,759 For centuries, American culture had regarded us 438 00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:22,829 as playful eunuchs, 439 00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:26,900 laughing, singing sambos, 440 00:24:27,701 --> 00:24:30,704 childlike in our disposition. 441 00:24:30,804 --> 00:24:33,473 While Black women were seen as strong 442 00:24:33,573 --> 00:24:36,810 and often, because of this, unwomanly, 443 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,879 our men were considered weak. 444 00:24:38,979 --> 00:24:41,281 Is there any wonder then 445 00:24:41,381 --> 00:24:46,153 that when Black men finally achieved public voice, 446 00:24:46,253 --> 00:24:49,156 the top priority was restoring 447 00:24:49,256 --> 00:24:54,127 what society had repeatedly stolen from us? 448 00:24:54,227 --> 00:24:55,829 The Black man must rise. 449 00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:58,698 The time has come for the Black man to take his place at the head. 450 00:24:58,798 --> 00:25:01,434 Off the pigs! 451 00:25:01,535 --> 00:25:03,336 The world's course would change 452 00:25:03,436 --> 00:25:07,407 the day that African heritage people come together as brothers. 453 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:10,477 The Black man in America has no knowledge of his true identity... 454 00:25:10,577 --> 00:25:13,680 In World War II, 850,000 Black men fought 455 00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:16,082 and we were promised freedom and we didn't get it. 456 00:25:16,183 --> 00:25:17,817 The Black man will define Black power. 457 00:25:17,918 --> 00:25:20,086 The Talented Tenth shows the promise of Black men. 458 00:25:20,187 --> 00:25:23,723 The only thing that's gonna free Huey is gunpowder. 459 00:25:23,823 --> 00:25:26,993 We came to this country as Black men and as Africans. 460 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:29,229 ...to stand up and take his place. 461 00:25:29,329 --> 00:25:30,430 It's time, brother. 462 00:25:30,530 --> 00:25:34,834 With so many words about the Black man, one had to wonder — 463 00:25:36,203 --> 00:25:38,405 - Where were all of our women? - Free Huey! 464 00:25:38,505 --> 00:25:40,173 And what of their redemption? 465 00:25:40,273 --> 00:25:44,578 When we said "Black is beautiful" in the late '60s, 466 00:25:44,678 --> 00:25:48,848 that meant "the Black man is beautiful." 467 00:25:48,949 --> 00:25:50,617 There is this tendency now 468 00:25:50,717 --> 00:25:56,289 to want to constantly rehabilitate the Black man as patriarch... 469 00:25:57,290 --> 00:26:01,595 and I have problems with positing that as the goal of the community. 470 00:26:01,695 --> 00:26:06,099 Yes, I struggle with and for my brother. 471 00:26:06,199 --> 00:26:08,935 I speak with and for my brother. 472 00:26:09,035 --> 00:26:13,006 But I think my brother has an equal responsibility 473 00:26:13,106 --> 00:26:15,375 to speak with and for me. 474 00:26:15,475 --> 00:26:17,844 I entered graduate school the same year I finished college. 475 00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:20,914 That was 1969. One of those apocryphal years, you know? 476 00:26:21,014 --> 00:26:25,151 And I really thought that I would never be politically active again, 477 00:26:25,252 --> 00:26:27,220 because nationalism was so deep. 478 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,825 If there was any time in my life when I felt like a persona non grata, 479 00:26:31,925 --> 00:26:33,994 just like out in the stratosphere, 480 00:26:34,094 --> 00:26:36,663 was in those first years of graduate school. 481 00:26:36,763 --> 00:26:38,732 I didn't think I was any less capable 482 00:26:38,832 --> 00:26:43,136 of making decisions and doing positive work than anyone, 483 00:26:43,236 --> 00:26:44,571 regardless of gender. 484 00:26:44,671 --> 00:26:48,708 I didn't think that because I was female that I was supposed to somehow get stupid. 485 00:26:52,946 --> 00:26:56,483 Twenty-five years ago, there was someone in this organization 486 00:26:56,583 --> 00:27:02,289 who argued that the role of women was to wear long African dresses... 487 00:27:04,224 --> 00:27:08,094 to organize cocktail parties 488 00:27:08,194 --> 00:27:13,033 and to convince rich men to donate money to the organization. 489 00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:15,035 And this particular person actually came in 490 00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:17,404 and dismantled the whole structure that we had 491 00:27:17,504 --> 00:27:20,307 because he felt that the women had too much power. 492 00:27:20,407 --> 00:27:22,442 Let me see if I've got the consequences of this. 493 00:27:22,542 --> 00:27:24,344 In addition to all this, the Black — 494 00:27:24,444 --> 00:27:27,881 In addition to the myth of the Black macho man, 495 00:27:27,981 --> 00:27:30,550 we also have the myth of the super Black woman. 496 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:34,287 You're strong, you can take anything. Boy, look at her caring for those kids. 497 00:27:34,387 --> 00:27:37,490 And that's the way we got ripped off. That was the way we got ripped off. 498 00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:41,995 Because we had always been strong and we didn't suffer, we didn't have pain. 499 00:27:42,095 --> 00:27:44,264 - So the myth went. - We didn't suffer the way that they did. 500 00:27:44,364 --> 00:27:47,434 Because we had all the jobs and it was easy for us, 501 00:27:47,534 --> 00:27:50,503 and we were just laying up with the slave master. 502 00:27:50,603 --> 00:27:53,673 I mean, all sorts of ridiculousness was said and was believed 503 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:58,044 by not just Black men, but Black women and by America at large. 504 00:27:58,144 --> 00:27:59,512 I just think that Black feminists 505 00:27:59,612 --> 00:28:03,183 have not been good at critiquing Black male sexism, 506 00:28:03,283 --> 00:28:08,588 um, because of the oppression that we suffer as a people. 507 00:28:08,688 --> 00:28:12,425 I think it just becomes the job no one wants to do. 508 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:15,695 You know, everybody knows about it. It's well known. 509 00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:19,666 It's well understood by Black women and Black men, 510 00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:21,601 and yet, um... 511 00:28:22,936 --> 00:28:25,205 nobody is supposed to speak about it publicly. 512 00:28:25,271 --> 00:28:27,140 I did so. 513 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,412 Um, and I think that that was, you know, sort of the significant departure. 514 00:28:32,512 --> 00:28:36,182 - And you were punished. - And I was punished for that, yes. 515 00:28:36,282 --> 00:28:37,851 Yes, I was punished. 516 00:28:39,719 --> 00:28:43,056 That's true. Still being punished actually, I think. 517 00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:48,027 Black women can be and have been resistant to Black feminism 518 00:28:48,128 --> 00:28:53,733 because they're concerned about losing approval from Black men. 519 00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,568 This is not an unfounded fear 520 00:28:55,668 --> 00:28:59,873 because often, to speak out about difficult issues 521 00:28:59,973 --> 00:29:02,675 is to be ostracized, is to be criticized. 522 00:29:02,776 --> 00:29:08,014 But I think that there are some Black women, including myself, 523 00:29:08,114 --> 00:29:13,353 who feel that speaking truth to power is far, far, far more valuable 524 00:29:13,453 --> 00:29:15,488 than bowing and taking it. 525 00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:20,627 There's a cure for what ails us as a people, 526 00:29:20,727 --> 00:29:22,695 and that is for us to talk to each other. 527 00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:28,134 We've got to start talking about the ways in which we hurt each other, 528 00:29:28,234 --> 00:29:32,572 and the ways in which we hurt each other is also through silence. 529 00:29:32,672 --> 00:29:37,577 Because nobody can unload the pain or the shame or the guilt 530 00:29:37,677 --> 00:29:39,212 by not speaking. 531 00:29:42,749 --> 00:29:44,818 "In my loneliest gestures 532 00:29:44,918 --> 00:29:49,522 "Learning to live with less is less 533 00:29:49,622 --> 00:29:53,026 "I never wanted to be your son 534 00:29:53,126 --> 00:29:55,562 "You never made the choice 535 00:29:55,662 --> 00:29:57,864 "To be my father 536 00:29:57,964 --> 00:30:01,534 "What we have learned from no textbook 537 00:30:01,634 --> 00:30:04,938 "How to live without one another 538 00:30:05,038 --> 00:30:07,740 "How to evade the stainless truth 539 00:30:07,841 --> 00:30:12,078 "How to store our waste in tombs beneath the heart 540 00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:16,282 "Knowing at any moment it could leak out 541 00:30:17,150 --> 00:30:19,385 "Do we expect to survive? 542 00:30:19,486 --> 00:30:22,222 "What are we prepared for? 543 00:30:22,322 --> 00:30:23,823 "Trenched off 544 00:30:23,923 --> 00:30:25,859 "Communications down 545 00:30:25,959 --> 00:30:28,728 "Angry in alien tongues 546 00:30:29,462 --> 00:30:34,601 "We use extreme weapons to ward off one another 547 00:30:34,701 --> 00:30:38,238 "Some nights our opposing reports 548 00:30:38,338 --> 00:30:41,341 "Are heard as we dream 549 00:30:42,041 --> 00:30:46,179 "Silence is our deadliest weapon 550 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:48,314 "We both use it 551 00:30:48,381 --> 00:30:49,883 "Precisely 552 00:30:50,884 --> 00:30:52,085 Often." 553 00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:12,372 We have basically everything, 554 00:31:12,472 --> 00:31:14,707 you know, everything all the other states have. 555 00:31:14,807 --> 00:31:17,377 But we have a little blues, you know. We have more blues. 556 00:31:17,477 --> 00:31:21,347 Because Mississippi is the heart of blues. 557 00:31:21,447 --> 00:31:24,684 Greats such as B.B. King and Z.Z. Hill. 558 00:31:24,784 --> 00:31:26,986 All blues songs to me have meaning to 'em. 559 00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:29,589 'Cause they're talking about where they're coming from, 560 00:31:29,689 --> 00:31:31,457 and their nature and things like that. 561 00:31:31,558 --> 00:31:35,028 I feel that the blues have a lot of meaning to 'em. 562 00:31:35,128 --> 00:31:37,497 Like, regular songs around, you know, 563 00:31:37,597 --> 00:31:40,066 you can't really find the meaning in some songs. 564 00:31:40,166 --> 00:31:42,201 But in blues, they have a lot of meaning. 565 00:31:42,302 --> 00:31:44,170 - You listen to blues? - No, sir. 566 00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,806 Why not? 567 00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:50,343 It's too moody. Blues is too moody for me. 568 00:31:50,443 --> 00:31:54,147 I like — I listen to R & B and I listen to reggae 569 00:31:54,247 --> 00:31:56,382 and I listen to rap music. 570 00:31:56,482 --> 00:31:59,619 - Black music. - What's it all about? 571 00:31:59,719 --> 00:32:01,421 What's it all about? 572 00:32:01,521 --> 00:32:07,927 These are the profiles of Black musical composers 573 00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:12,198 who have maintained higher standards 574 00:32:12,298 --> 00:32:14,934 throughout the years. 575 00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:19,072 They have brought us from slavery. 576 00:32:19,172 --> 00:32:25,578 ♪ Swing low, sweet chariot ♪ 577 00:32:31,351 --> 00:32:36,556 ♪ I woke up this morning With my mind sta... ♪ 578 00:32:36,656 --> 00:32:40,693 ♪ My baby's gone And don't know what to do ♪ 579 00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:48,201 ♪ Turn this mother out ♪ 580 00:32:49,102 --> 00:32:51,104 ♪ We gonna turn this mother... ♪ 581 00:32:55,742 --> 00:32:57,744 What's the sign for "cut"? 582 00:32:57,844 --> 00:33:00,313 Use it. 583 00:33:06,352 --> 00:33:08,187 You know, what's Black music? 584 00:33:08,287 --> 00:33:10,556 The music of this world. 585 00:33:10,657 --> 00:33:13,092 And that music has been so influential. 586 00:33:13,192 --> 00:33:17,897 In fact, without it you can't even imagine what music might be on this earth. 587 00:33:19,465 --> 00:33:22,335 It's been such a crucial part of our heritage. 588 00:33:22,435 --> 00:33:24,971 I mean, beyond the entertainment value, 589 00:33:25,071 --> 00:33:28,041 it too is what binds us together as a people, 590 00:33:28,141 --> 00:33:33,179 that creation and recreation, from generation to generation. 591 00:33:37,817 --> 00:33:40,720 ♪ Baby, baby, baby, I love you ♪ 592 00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:45,825 ♪ Ain't no doubt about it Baby, I love you ♪ 593 00:33:51,831 --> 00:33:53,866 ♪ We can stop being washed away ♪ 594 00:33:53,966 --> 00:33:55,802 ♪ We can stop being washed away ♪ 595 00:33:55,902 --> 00:33:58,004 ♪ We can stop being washed away ♪ 596 00:33:58,104 --> 00:33:59,872 ♪ We can stop ♪ 597 00:33:59,972 --> 00:34:01,808 ♪ We can stop being washed away ♪ 598 00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:03,876 ♪ We can stop being washed away ♪ 599 00:34:03,976 --> 00:34:06,279 ♪ We can stop being washed away ♪ 600 00:34:07,814 --> 00:34:09,682 ♪ Sand grain by sand grain ♪ 601 00:34:09,782 --> 00:34:11,417 ♪ Pebble by pebble... ♪ 602 00:34:11,517 --> 00:34:13,319 Understand, I hate history, period, 603 00:34:13,419 --> 00:34:16,789 because I don't like studying on things that people did before, you know. 604 00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:19,225 It's all about what's going on now. People gotta do now. 605 00:34:19,325 --> 00:34:23,029 They can't keep looking back on stuff that happened a long time ago. 606 00:34:23,129 --> 00:34:27,033 You see, to me history is important because you have to look back. 607 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,402 History repeats itself, you know. 608 00:34:29,502 --> 00:34:30,970 Maybe you can look back on something 609 00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:35,074 that happened a long time ago and it could help you out now. 610 00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:36,709 History repeats itself. 611 00:34:36,809 --> 00:34:38,745 All right, Whitney. 612 00:34:38,845 --> 00:34:43,082 It's all right to know who Martin Luther King and Harriet Tubman — 613 00:34:43,182 --> 00:34:45,618 you know, know what they done and all that. 614 00:34:45,718 --> 00:34:48,554 But, like he said, history, ain't no need for that. 615 00:34:48,654 --> 00:34:50,389 You better look for the future. 616 00:34:50,490 --> 00:34:53,159 That's what you should be studying, the future, you know, 617 00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:56,662 them computers and technology and all that stuff. 618 00:34:56,763 --> 00:34:59,932 Chains tied on your ankles and stuff, that ain't gonna help you. 619 00:35:00,032 --> 00:35:02,602 You better try to learn that IBM computer or something. 620 00:35:02,702 --> 00:35:05,104 On the real, for real, you know. 621 00:35:05,204 --> 00:35:08,141 History is more than chains on your ankle 622 00:35:08,241 --> 00:35:11,344 and knowing this Black leader and knowing that Black leader. 623 00:35:11,444 --> 00:35:13,780 It's much more to history than that. 624 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,716 I mean, the thing with Black people is, 625 00:35:16,816 --> 00:35:19,552 if you wanna be Black, you don't want to know your Black history? 626 00:35:19,652 --> 00:35:21,454 You wanna forget about your Black history? 627 00:35:21,554 --> 00:35:24,857 It's all right to know about them people and what they done. 628 00:35:24,957 --> 00:35:28,394 But what Martin Luther King gonna do for you now? 629 00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:30,596 What Harriet Tubman gonna do for you right now? 630 00:35:30,696 --> 00:35:31,964 It's not only Harriet. 631 00:35:32,064 --> 00:35:35,601 She don't make history. Malcolm don't make history. 632 00:35:35,701 --> 00:35:37,703 Is he gonna come fix you dinner? 633 00:35:37,804 --> 00:35:41,140 Is he gonna come buy your kids some shoes next month? 634 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:43,543 Is he gonna get you that job on the interview tomorrow? 635 00:35:43,643 --> 00:35:46,679 No, that's not it. That's not it. 636 00:35:46,779 --> 00:35:49,048 I'm thankful for what they done, 637 00:35:49,148 --> 00:35:51,984 and for how Martin Luther King fought all them struggles and all that. 638 00:35:52,084 --> 00:35:54,220 You're saying, "Thank you, but to hell with you." 639 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,022 Yeah. "Thank you, but no thank you." 640 00:35:56,122 --> 00:35:59,926 No, I'm saying — I'm saying I'm thankful for it. 641 00:36:00,026 --> 00:36:01,661 But what is it gonna do for you now? 642 00:36:01,761 --> 00:36:04,030 What good it gon' do for you now? 643 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,302 We seek after knowledge, 644 00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:13,172 and if knowledge is kept from you, 645 00:36:13,272 --> 00:36:16,075 then I would say you're kind of dumb, you know. 646 00:36:16,175 --> 00:36:21,480 But that's why our white brothers didn't tell us 647 00:36:21,581 --> 00:36:27,153 about all these heroes and heroines that we have had in our race, 648 00:36:27,253 --> 00:36:29,121 because that is knowledge. 649 00:36:29,922 --> 00:36:32,191 And they don't want you to become too knowledgeable. 650 00:36:32,291 --> 00:36:38,664 Africans were represented as people from the dark continent 651 00:36:38,764 --> 00:36:44,103 and they were always represented as superstitious, savage. 652 00:36:44,837 --> 00:36:47,506 Remember, we have an identity crisis, brother. 653 00:36:47,607 --> 00:36:50,643 At one time, you call a brother an African, he wanna get mad with you. 654 00:36:50,743 --> 00:36:53,145 You call a brother Black, he wanna fight you. 655 00:36:53,246 --> 00:36:57,583 Now, we're coming to the focal point that we're Black and we're African. 656 00:36:57,683 --> 00:36:59,952 And we're from African descent. 657 00:37:00,052 --> 00:37:01,888 We are Black people. 658 00:37:01,988 --> 00:37:07,994 And so now we're starting to adopt the true identity of who we really are. 659 00:37:08,761 --> 00:37:13,799 When the Ethiopian and Italian war of the '30s occurred, 660 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,503 there were people who then developed 661 00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:20,806 a feeling of affinity to Africa. 662 00:37:20,907 --> 00:37:23,276 I imagine they knew all along they were Africans, 663 00:37:23,376 --> 00:37:26,379 but that war kind of brought it out, 664 00:37:26,479 --> 00:37:30,383 because some Blacks actually went over to help the Ethiopians. 665 00:37:30,483 --> 00:37:33,486 They identified with the Ethiopians. 666 00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:35,955 When I hear the word "Africa," 667 00:37:36,055 --> 00:37:38,591 what it means to me is it brings me back 668 00:37:38,691 --> 00:37:41,427 and it makes my mind go back to my ancestors. 669 00:37:41,527 --> 00:37:45,031 I have a vision of Africa as a very nice place 670 00:37:45,131 --> 00:37:46,766 where I would like to go. 671 00:37:46,866 --> 00:37:50,436 I like that my ancestors came from that place, 672 00:37:50,536 --> 00:37:53,239 and I don't like that my ancestors were taken away from that place. 673 00:37:53,339 --> 00:37:55,841 When I hear about my ancestors, it gives me strength 674 00:37:55,942 --> 00:37:59,578 to know that they did very good and they survived — 675 00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:01,547 most of them survived slavery. 676 00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:04,450 So that gives me courage to go on. 677 00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:06,819 If you don't have a knowledge of who your ancestors are, 678 00:38:06,919 --> 00:38:08,120 then of course you're lost. 679 00:38:10,456 --> 00:38:13,292 Who are your ancestors? What is your true root? 680 00:38:14,093 --> 00:38:19,065 I'm His Royal Highness Oba Oseijeman Adefunmi I — 681 00:38:19,165 --> 00:38:22,401 oba, or king, of Oyotunji... 682 00:38:23,436 --> 00:38:26,973 the only African Village in America, or at least the first. 683 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:33,379 I am Her Royal Grace Iya Orite Olasowo of the Oyotunji African Village, 684 00:38:33,479 --> 00:38:36,282 located in Beaufort County, South Carolina. 685 00:38:36,382 --> 00:38:41,921 We realized that we could not really develop African civilization and culture 686 00:38:42,021 --> 00:38:46,225 to its fullest degree in an American city, 687 00:38:46,325 --> 00:38:51,897 so it became necessary then to leave the urban areas 688 00:38:51,998 --> 00:38:54,133 and found our own community. 689 00:38:56,168 --> 00:38:59,105 This village means, first of all, 690 00:38:59,205 --> 00:39:04,110 a reaffirmation of self, my personal self identity. 691 00:39:04,210 --> 00:39:10,216 This village also means to me a restoration and a preservation 692 00:39:10,316 --> 00:39:16,489 of some of the very, very ancient customs and traditions of our ancestry. 693 00:39:16,589 --> 00:39:20,092 I would say to those Afro-Americans 694 00:39:20,192 --> 00:39:24,630 who have somewhat lost their identity — 695 00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:27,867 Because if they've changed to another lifestyle, 696 00:39:27,967 --> 00:39:30,903 or they've patterned themselves after another race 697 00:39:31,003 --> 00:39:34,740 and picked up the values and the customs of another race, 698 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,810 then I would say to them that they're not really living 699 00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:40,112 within the confines of their true identity. 700 00:39:41,047 --> 00:39:42,248 I love kente cloth. 701 00:39:42,348 --> 00:39:46,118 I have kente cloth in my house and I wear kente cloth, 702 00:39:46,218 --> 00:39:51,891 but I don't confuse that with my identity. 703 00:39:52,892 --> 00:39:54,994 Because I can wear kente cloth if I want to, 704 00:39:55,094 --> 00:39:56,629 but I can also put on a pair of jeans 705 00:39:56,729 --> 00:40:00,366 and I feel just as Black as I did when I had the kente cloth on. 706 00:40:00,466 --> 00:40:05,771 Putting on our kentes and whatever cloths and importing from West Africa, 707 00:40:05,871 --> 00:40:07,273 all of that's really wonderful. 708 00:40:07,373 --> 00:40:09,141 I say all of that's really wonderful. 709 00:40:09,241 --> 00:40:11,944 Whatever makes, you know, your spirit rise, 710 00:40:12,044 --> 00:40:15,247 I say, by all means, nurture it in that way, 711 00:40:15,347 --> 00:40:18,384 if that's what it takes for you, if that's the affirmation it takes. 712 00:40:18,484 --> 00:40:20,920 But that doesn't then give you the privilege 713 00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:22,755 to beat someone else down 714 00:40:22,855 --> 00:40:24,690 just because they don't wanna change their name 715 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:28,027 or wear African cloths or stay in the inner city. 716 00:40:28,127 --> 00:40:31,430 Black is... Black ain't. Black is... Black ain't. 717 00:40:31,530 --> 00:40:34,867 An African proverb says, "No matter how well a house is built 718 00:40:34,967 --> 00:40:38,170 and no matter how high it stands, it must stand on something." 719 00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:40,072 And that something is our tradition. 720 00:40:40,172 --> 00:40:43,776 So that appreciation for tradition 721 00:40:43,876 --> 00:40:47,980 evolves into the modern conversation called Afrocentricity, 722 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,683 which means centeredness in Africa. 723 00:40:50,783 --> 00:40:53,853 Most young brothers, all they know is they come from slavery. 724 00:40:53,953 --> 00:40:58,891 But if they knew about the antiquities of old, 725 00:40:58,991 --> 00:41:02,661 the Egyptian civilization, how we ruled 10,000 years 726 00:41:02,761 --> 00:41:05,531 before the Greeks came in and conquered, 727 00:41:05,631 --> 00:41:08,767 if we was to know we were descendants of kings and queens — 728 00:41:08,868 --> 00:41:11,303 We're not taught about Imhotep. 729 00:41:11,403 --> 00:41:14,974 Imhotep, who was a chief physician, a grand vizier, 730 00:41:15,074 --> 00:41:19,211 a poet magician and a pyramid builder for the king Djoser. 731 00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:21,280 So we got to study the in-depth, 732 00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:23,716 like my brother said, the antiquity. 733 00:41:23,816 --> 00:41:27,086 Learn about we have great people of that stature. 734 00:41:27,186 --> 00:41:30,556 Then we will build a pride and an enrichment of ourselves. 735 00:41:30,656 --> 00:41:34,293 Then we're like, "Hey, I am somebody," as Jesse Jackson would say. 736 00:41:34,393 --> 00:41:35,694 Then you know you're real. 737 00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:38,364 There is no decolonization process 738 00:41:38,464 --> 00:41:41,267 that doesn't require us to reclaim our past. 739 00:41:41,367 --> 00:41:43,903 So there is, to me, something very positive 740 00:41:44,003 --> 00:41:47,907 in having Black people who used to despise the word "Africa" 741 00:41:48,007 --> 00:41:53,078 find a way to lay claim to that diasporic connection and experience. 742 00:41:53,179 --> 00:41:55,781 When it comes into the kind of fundamentalism 743 00:41:55,881 --> 00:41:58,617 that wants to make that Africa superior — 744 00:41:58,717 --> 00:42:00,319 You know, these Black folks who tell me, 745 00:42:00,419 --> 00:42:02,621 "We don't have to deal with sexism, 746 00:42:02,721 --> 00:42:05,824 because don't you think that in ancient — in Africa 747 00:42:05,925 --> 00:42:08,360 we were kings and queens, we were equal?" 748 00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,863 I mean, that is some bullshit. Like, let's get real. 749 00:42:10,963 --> 00:42:16,168 One of the things that we do here is to mythologize our African past, 750 00:42:16,268 --> 00:42:18,871 since it was snatched away from us, 751 00:42:18,971 --> 00:42:23,175 and make assertions about that past that are not necessarily true. 752 00:42:23,275 --> 00:42:27,046 We don't know for a fact that there was not 753 00:42:27,146 --> 00:42:32,418 lesbian and gay, uh, existence in Africa. 754 00:42:32,518 --> 00:42:36,355 In fact, anthropological research indicates 755 00:42:36,455 --> 00:42:38,924 that indeed there was. 756 00:42:39,024 --> 00:42:41,727 So, like, to be condemned on the basis of myths, 757 00:42:41,827 --> 00:42:44,063 that's really very difficult for me. 758 00:42:46,031 --> 00:42:47,700 Six months ago, 759 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,571 I weighed 140 pounds, 145. 760 00:42:52,671 --> 00:42:55,474 I weighed 110 when I went into the hospital. 761 00:42:55,574 --> 00:42:58,010 My T-Cell count, 762 00:42:58,110 --> 00:43:03,949 I know it was around 125, 135, 763 00:43:04,049 --> 00:43:07,553 which is low, but still, it was enough to make me feel 764 00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:11,056 I had a little meat to my cells. 765 00:43:11,156 --> 00:43:14,093 Uh, I've dropped to ten T-cells. 766 00:43:14,193 --> 00:43:17,496 And then I just stopped counting because it became irrelevant. 767 00:43:17,596 --> 00:43:20,099 More important was, how do I feel? 768 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,643 ♪ U-N-I-T-Y... ♪ 769 00:43:30,743 --> 00:43:34,480 My father used to come home from work humming a tune. 770 00:43:34,580 --> 00:43:37,483 And, I mean, that tune was like a terroristic threat. 771 00:43:37,583 --> 00:43:39,051 ♪ Who you callin' a bitch ♪ 772 00:43:39,151 --> 00:43:43,555 In every society, the male and the female had a specific, designated role. 773 00:43:43,656 --> 00:43:46,058 All of us have our roles to play. 774 00:43:46,158 --> 00:43:48,560 When we heard that tune hitting those steps, 775 00:43:48,661 --> 00:43:51,230 we knew that we had to get ourselves in order, right? 776 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:55,901 And always, you will find that the males were put in a more authoritative position. 777 00:43:56,001 --> 00:43:58,737 My dad didn't have to speak, honey. He had to hum his tune. 778 00:43:58,837 --> 00:44:01,807 This is the way the gods had ordered things. 779 00:44:01,907 --> 00:44:06,512 He didn't have to come in and say, "Do this, do that. I'm the ruler here." 780 00:44:06,612 --> 00:44:07,880 It was all taking place. 781 00:44:08,247 --> 00:44:12,217 The Bible teaches us that the head of Christ is God, 782 00:44:12,318 --> 00:44:15,788 and the head of man is Christ, 783 00:44:15,888 --> 00:44:17,756 and the head of woman is man. 784 00:44:17,856 --> 00:44:19,358 Now, who am I to change that? 785 00:44:19,458 --> 00:44:22,461 Once, you know, I think that my father heard 786 00:44:22,561 --> 00:44:25,097 that my mother was having an affair with somebody, 787 00:44:25,197 --> 00:44:28,934 and he came home from work and he got his gun. 788 00:44:29,034 --> 00:44:30,369 There is no way. 789 00:44:30,469 --> 00:44:35,240 I say there's just no way that the woman can be first partaker of the fruit. 790 00:44:35,341 --> 00:44:39,178 And I remember my father screaming, "I will kill you!" 791 00:44:39,278 --> 00:44:44,249 That very night he said, you know, "This is my house. I will not have this!" 792 00:44:44,350 --> 00:44:46,585 And she had to pack her bags. 793 00:44:46,685 --> 00:44:49,321 You're bringing a hawk into the chicken yard... 794 00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:54,259 ...and wondering why the chicken got eaten up. 795 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,329 It's like when you're a kid and you think your parents are equal. 796 00:44:57,429 --> 00:45:00,466 But when I saw my mother weeping and packing her bags 797 00:45:00,566 --> 00:45:03,202 and throwing her shit into suitcases and I thought, 798 00:45:03,302 --> 00:45:05,337 "He has the power to do this." 799 00:45:05,437 --> 00:45:08,674 You bring Mike to a beauty contest, 800 00:45:08,774 --> 00:45:12,778 and all these fine foxes just parading in front of Mike. 801 00:45:16,782 --> 00:45:19,284 And Mike's eyes begin to dance like a hungry man 802 00:45:19,385 --> 00:45:21,854 looking at a Wendy's beef burger or something. 803 00:45:21,954 --> 00:45:26,058 When my uncles came to get her, the other patriarchs came to get her, 804 00:45:26,158 --> 00:45:28,527 I expected there would be some discussion, 805 00:45:28,627 --> 00:45:31,663 that they would try to convince my father that you can't do this, 806 00:45:31,764 --> 00:45:35,901 you can't throw her out of what is her house as well. 807 00:45:36,001 --> 00:45:38,437 But it was like one patriarch has spoken 808 00:45:38,537 --> 00:45:40,739 and the other patriarchs had nodded their head. 809 00:45:40,839 --> 00:45:43,442 If the woman has done wrong, you gotta punish her. 810 00:45:44,576 --> 00:45:46,512 She said, "No, Mike, no." 811 00:45:47,513 --> 00:45:50,182 I mean how many times, sisters, have you said no 812 00:45:50,282 --> 00:45:52,551 and you mean yes all the time? 813 00:45:52,651 --> 00:45:54,453 Wait, wait, wait. I'm talking to women now. 814 00:45:54,553 --> 00:45:56,555 - We going to talk now. - Yeah! 815 00:45:56,655 --> 00:45:59,324 - You see, the day of the BS is all over. - Yes, sir! 816 00:45:59,425 --> 00:46:02,828 You're not dealing with a man that don't know you... 817 00:46:06,098 --> 00:46:10,269 ...and the damned deceitful games that you play. 818 00:46:10,369 --> 00:46:14,339 This man is saying he's gonna kill our mama, 819 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,341 who takes care of us every day, 820 00:46:16,442 --> 00:46:19,478 and we're just gonna go up and go to bed and go to sleep? 821 00:46:19,578 --> 00:46:23,515 And I never forgave my sisters and brothers for a long time 822 00:46:23,615 --> 00:46:27,519 for the fact that they actually went up and went to bed and went to sleep. 823 00:46:27,619 --> 00:46:30,522 Where I was like, "No, I can't go upstairs and go to sleep. 824 00:46:30,622 --> 00:46:32,291 I've got to witness this." 825 00:46:32,391 --> 00:46:35,794 Witness this. Witness this. 826 00:46:35,894 --> 00:46:38,564 Witness this. Witness this. 827 00:46:39,765 --> 00:46:41,633 It's not so much for me 828 00:46:41,733 --> 00:46:45,370 manhood that we're trying to reach, that we're emulating. 829 00:46:45,471 --> 00:46:49,174 It's, rather, human and all the complexities of being human, 830 00:46:49,274 --> 00:46:51,643 which includes being feminine. 831 00:46:51,743 --> 00:46:55,280 That when men can be feminine as well as manly, 832 00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:57,382 whatever those terms mean to you, 833 00:46:57,483 --> 00:47:00,118 but when you can be both comfortably, 834 00:47:00,219 --> 00:47:02,454 then you've achieved what it is — I think it is — 835 00:47:02,554 --> 00:47:05,390 to be a man, which is to be human. 836 00:47:10,028 --> 00:47:13,065 When you think of yourself, is there a woman within you? 837 00:47:13,165 --> 00:47:15,701 Oh, yeah, yeah. Many. Many. 838 00:47:15,801 --> 00:47:17,336 Describe the women within. 839 00:47:17,436 --> 00:47:20,105 Mmm. They're Black. 840 00:47:20,172 --> 00:47:22,007 She is Black. 841 00:47:22,107 --> 00:47:25,477 She is, uh — She's got stature. 842 00:47:25,577 --> 00:47:29,281 She swaggers and sways when she walks. 843 00:47:30,349 --> 00:47:35,454 She is strong, great sense of humor, spiritual. 844 00:47:35,554 --> 00:47:37,623 She sings beautifully. 845 00:47:37,723 --> 00:47:41,193 She loves the man in me, who is Black... 846 00:47:42,294 --> 00:47:45,531 sensitive, strapping. 847 00:47:45,631 --> 00:47:49,167 He's a good parent, good brother. 848 00:47:49,268 --> 00:47:52,104 He dances, he leaps. 849 00:47:52,204 --> 00:47:55,707 He's wild when he moves, when he leaps. 850 00:47:55,807 --> 00:48:00,145 He and she walk together, and they run together, 851 00:48:00,245 --> 00:48:02,347 like two animals running. 852 00:48:03,048 --> 00:48:04,783 And they roll around together. 853 00:48:07,185 --> 00:48:09,555 And they become one. And that's Bill. 854 00:48:17,863 --> 00:48:21,767 When you see the scenes of me naked, running through the woods, 855 00:48:21,867 --> 00:48:24,736 which I will hope you will use an abundance of, 856 00:48:24,836 --> 00:48:27,606 those things had a powerful image for me 857 00:48:27,706 --> 00:48:31,944 in terms of searching through clutter in my life, 858 00:48:32,044 --> 00:48:35,647 searching through the clutter of the project, 859 00:48:35,747 --> 00:48:39,952 searching through the attempts by society at large 860 00:48:40,052 --> 00:48:44,389 to cover you and to confine you into some space 861 00:48:44,489 --> 00:48:48,727 in which you're not seen for the naked truth of who you are. 862 00:48:48,827 --> 00:48:52,030 Those scenes are critical in their metaphoric importance. 863 00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:54,967 Well, I mean it's easy for me to make the parallels 864 00:48:55,067 --> 00:48:58,470 of being confined and lost in the woods 865 00:48:58,570 --> 00:49:03,575 and a community confined by its own limited notions of identity. 866 00:49:05,711 --> 00:49:07,346 - You see? - Mm-hmm. 867 00:49:08,847 --> 00:49:11,617 - That's not a great leap for me. - Mm-hmm. 868 00:49:12,584 --> 00:49:16,188 And I can say that or write it actually as text, 869 00:49:16,288 --> 00:49:20,425 'cause I don't know if I want to record more narration. 870 00:49:21,393 --> 00:49:24,496 Well, we've been recording this. 871 00:49:24,596 --> 00:49:27,332 - Mm-hmm. - We can, you know — We can work with it. 872 00:49:28,467 --> 00:49:31,637 Just the woods, the rivers, 873 00:49:31,737 --> 00:49:33,772 you know, the steamboats, all of that. 874 00:49:33,872 --> 00:49:36,541 My own living memory. 875 00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:41,346 The moss trees and old shacks and... 876 00:49:41,446 --> 00:49:44,349 Black is... Black ain't. Black is... Black ain't. 877 00:49:44,449 --> 00:49:45,617 Black is... Black ain't... 878 00:49:45,717 --> 00:49:48,654 Many people would say that I am not a member of the Black community. 879 00:49:48,754 --> 00:49:51,657 In fact, many of the people who are viewing this would say, 880 00:49:51,757 --> 00:49:54,726 "She says she's a lesbian? Oh, no, that doesn't cut it." 881 00:49:54,826 --> 00:49:57,262 But the thing is, I know I'm a part of the Black community 882 00:49:57,362 --> 00:50:00,666 in every single way that is important. 883 00:50:00,766 --> 00:50:02,334 It's obvious, 884 00:50:02,434 --> 00:50:04,403 because of our sexuality, 885 00:50:04,503 --> 00:50:06,538 we've been treated as outcasts. 886 00:50:06,638 --> 00:50:10,075 To be gay or to be lesbian is not to be Black. 887 00:50:10,175 --> 00:50:12,010 To be Black is to be heterosexual. 888 00:50:12,110 --> 00:50:16,581 This idea that somehow my Blackness 889 00:50:16,682 --> 00:50:22,354 is diminished because I love a man 890 00:50:22,454 --> 00:50:26,958 is purely out of that sense that Black men have been chatteled, 891 00:50:27,059 --> 00:50:30,762 Black men have been lynched, Black men have been shot, 892 00:50:30,862 --> 00:50:33,832 beaten, brutalized by the police, the government, 893 00:50:33,932 --> 00:50:35,801 every which way, et cetera. 894 00:50:35,901 --> 00:50:38,904 So that some people view Black homosexuality 895 00:50:39,004 --> 00:50:42,674 as the final break in masculinity 896 00:50:42,774 --> 00:50:47,979 and don't see the love, don't see the empowerment, 897 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,016 don't see the caring, the sharing, don't see the contributions. 898 00:50:54,219 --> 00:50:59,891 A gay man organized the 1963 March on Washington — 899 00:50:59,991 --> 00:51:01,660 Bayard Rustin. 900 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,995 Could he come out at that time? 901 00:51:04,796 --> 00:51:06,131 No. 902 00:51:06,231 --> 00:51:11,403 What happened to him after that singular event? 903 00:51:12,871 --> 00:51:15,407 He was drummed out of the civil rights movement 904 00:51:15,507 --> 00:51:21,213 by Black preachers who didn't want to be associated with anybody homosexual. 905 00:51:22,614 --> 00:51:28,353 And yet, what brought them to that march wouldn't have happened without him. 906 00:51:29,254 --> 00:51:34,726 ♪ We shall overcome ♪ 907 00:51:34,826 --> 00:51:36,461 ♪ We shall overcome someday... ♪ 908 00:51:36,561 --> 00:51:40,799 Jason. Dear Jason. 909 00:51:40,899 --> 00:51:43,101 Because some of them that looking like girls, they ain't girls. 910 00:51:43,201 --> 00:51:47,105 I mean, they got some drag queens in Harlem that are together. 911 00:51:47,205 --> 00:51:49,641 I mean, they coming out and they got fur coats 912 00:51:49,741 --> 00:51:52,577 and collars and wigs for days. 913 00:51:52,677 --> 00:51:54,913 And I mean, they don't slouch down the avenue 914 00:51:55,013 --> 00:51:57,182 like no East Side maid. 915 00:51:57,282 --> 00:51:59,151 These broads tip, you know what I mean? 916 00:51:59,251 --> 00:52:06,224 Dear Jason, when the people sang the freedom songs... 917 00:52:06,324 --> 00:52:08,960 Mama said, "You know, that's Mama's children up there. 918 00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:11,496 You all a little funny, but you can't help it. 919 00:52:11,596 --> 00:52:14,332 You know, somebody got to give you a break." 920 00:52:14,432 --> 00:52:16,701 It escapes you for a while. 921 00:52:16,802 --> 00:52:19,938 When the people sang the freedom songs, 922 00:52:20,038 --> 00:52:24,776 do you think they also sang them for you? 923 00:52:24,876 --> 00:52:30,348 Yeah, it gets next to you that you're living some bullshit 924 00:52:30,448 --> 00:52:34,653 that really shouldn't exist, 925 00:52:34,753 --> 00:52:39,724 but you're saying, "I guess this is my life, you know, 926 00:52:39,825 --> 00:52:43,495 and I am going to swing with it." 927 00:52:43,595 --> 00:52:46,131 How long, Jason? 928 00:52:46,231 --> 00:52:49,067 How long have they sung about the freedom 929 00:52:49,167 --> 00:52:54,272 and the righteousness and the beauty of the Black man, 930 00:52:54,372 --> 00:52:56,641 and ignored you? 931 00:52:58,376 --> 00:53:00,245 How long? 932 00:53:06,051 --> 00:53:09,221 Oh, dear fathers, tell me what to do. 933 00:53:10,755 --> 00:53:13,658 I search for ancestral affirmation 934 00:53:13,758 --> 00:53:17,095 to find only this: 935 00:53:17,162 --> 00:53:18,463 pathos, 936 00:53:18,563 --> 00:53:22,367 or worse, historic erasure. 937 00:53:23,501 --> 00:53:27,672 How much longer can I walk this winding road? 938 00:53:27,772 --> 00:53:31,643 ♪ I cannot go home, I cannot go home ♪ 939 00:53:32,777 --> 00:53:36,481 ♪ I cannot go home as who I am, it seems ♪ 940 00:53:37,549 --> 00:53:41,920 ♪ Unredeemed by what blood lost ♪ 941 00:53:42,020 --> 00:53:45,690 ♪ Unsaved by what grace ♪ 942 00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:49,561 ♪ And unnatural by whose standard ♪ 943 00:53:49,661 --> 00:53:51,863 ♪ They say ♪ 944 00:53:51,963 --> 00:53:53,798 ♪ That this is not true ♪ 945 00:53:53,899 --> 00:53:55,667 ♪ Manifold wonder ♪ 946 00:53:55,767 --> 00:53:58,236 ♪ They say hold tight ♪ 947 00:53:58,336 --> 00:54:02,140 ♪ And, oh, yes My, my, my lord, have mercy, and try ♪ 948 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,309 ♪ Try, I try, I try ♪ 949 00:54:04,409 --> 00:54:07,312 ♪ I cannot go home as who I am ♪ 950 00:54:09,514 --> 00:54:12,517 ♪ Past are the notions ♪ 951 00:54:12,617 --> 00:54:16,454 ♪ Past what was past ♪ 952 00:54:16,554 --> 00:54:18,890 ♪ Remembrance past ♪ 953 00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:21,159 ♪ Honey child ♪ 954 00:54:21,259 --> 00:54:22,961 ♪ Say what to laughing ♪ 955 00:54:23,061 --> 00:54:26,598 ♪ Me, oh, my, oh, my, oh, my, oh, my ♪ 956 00:54:26,698 --> 00:54:30,969 ♪ And I cannot go home as who I am ♪ 957 00:54:31,603 --> 00:54:36,675 Now, Lord, we're down here calling on your name 958 00:54:36,775 --> 00:54:40,712 for we realize we can't do nothing until you come. 959 00:54:40,812 --> 00:54:42,981 Please, sir, have mercy now. 960 00:54:43,081 --> 00:54:44,816 Bless everyone that's in this building. 961 00:54:44,916 --> 00:54:49,955 As a child, the church did offer a sense of belonging. 962 00:54:50,055 --> 00:54:52,223 You know? I mean, a sense of community. 963 00:54:52,324 --> 00:54:56,161 And that's important, I think, for anyone who wants to be nurtured 964 00:54:56,261 --> 00:55:01,466 in an environment of support and love and coming together. 965 00:55:03,468 --> 00:55:04,769 I am very religious 966 00:55:04,869 --> 00:55:08,206 because I go to church every Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. 967 00:55:08,306 --> 00:55:12,410 And I believe that religion should play a very important part in everyone's life. 968 00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:16,715 Here in Mississippi, religion, it's often exaggerated 969 00:55:16,815 --> 00:55:20,885 to a point where the child is... the child is enclosed. 970 00:55:20,986 --> 00:55:22,754 You know, you can't even — 971 00:55:22,854 --> 00:55:26,057 Some people I know, some females I know, 972 00:55:26,157 --> 00:55:28,660 they can't even, you know, hardly come outside 973 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,962 or watch videos or anything like that. 974 00:55:31,062 --> 00:55:34,399 And for punishment, they either get beat with a Bible, 975 00:55:34,499 --> 00:55:37,535 or they have to stand in the corner with a Bible in their arm. 976 00:55:37,635 --> 00:55:39,471 And that kind of makes me — 977 00:55:39,571 --> 00:55:43,041 that kind of makes me turn my head, you know, to some religions. 978 00:55:43,108 --> 00:55:45,076 ♪ Freedom ♪ 979 00:55:45,176 --> 00:55:47,312 There's no way that one could look 980 00:55:47,412 --> 00:55:51,950 at the progress of Black people in this county, from slavery on, 981 00:55:52,050 --> 00:55:58,356 without acknowledging the wonderful role that the church has played. 982 00:55:58,456 --> 00:56:00,925 I mean, the church was the beacon toward freedom. 983 00:56:01,026 --> 00:56:04,329 But it remains, unfortunately, structured in this way, 984 00:56:04,429 --> 00:56:07,699 in which people are denied freedom 985 00:56:07,799 --> 00:56:13,238 and the opportunity to explain their greater humanity. 986 00:56:13,338 --> 00:56:15,907 God loves the individual, 987 00:56:16,007 --> 00:56:18,877 but God does not love the homosexual part. 988 00:56:18,977 --> 00:56:20,145 You see what I'm saying? 989 00:56:20,245 --> 00:56:22,647 The sin that is involved, God does not love. 990 00:56:22,747 --> 00:56:26,184 But God — As a person, God loves the individual. 991 00:56:26,284 --> 00:56:31,790 I think that recent homophobic initiatives being led by the Black church, 992 00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:33,691 that's not about community. 993 00:56:33,792 --> 00:56:34,959 That's the opposite. 994 00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:38,897 Religion is to bring mankind together, 995 00:56:38,997 --> 00:56:40,965 not to disperse mankind. 996 00:56:42,067 --> 00:56:44,669 So when you find something that we call religion 997 00:56:44,769 --> 00:56:48,473 that's dividing and separating mankind, 998 00:56:48,573 --> 00:56:50,275 it's not religion. 999 00:56:50,375 --> 00:56:51,509 It's better not to have it. 1000 00:56:51,609 --> 00:56:54,512 If you love, then you will do love, 1001 00:56:54,612 --> 00:56:57,015 regardless to what's happening. 1002 00:56:57,115 --> 00:56:59,918 You don't show resentment. 1003 00:57:00,018 --> 00:57:04,222 Because love don't show hostility. 1004 00:57:05,123 --> 00:57:07,625 Love don't give you the mind 1005 00:57:07,725 --> 00:57:10,929 to get back at a person who has mistreated you, 1006 00:57:11,029 --> 00:57:13,498 because you're so busy looking forward... 1007 00:57:15,066 --> 00:57:19,003 and waiting for the guidance of the Lord in your life, 1008 00:57:19,104 --> 00:57:20,538 that love will just guide you. 1009 00:57:20,638 --> 00:57:23,641 No more chitlins and ribs and... 1010 00:57:25,844 --> 00:57:27,979 No more bacon fried, 1011 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,782 Sunday morning on the way to church. 1012 00:57:30,849 --> 00:57:31,816 Pork chop! 1013 00:57:31,916 --> 00:57:34,919 Look out! No more — No! 1014 00:57:35,019 --> 00:57:36,921 Pork chops, girl, pork chops! 1015 00:57:40,692 --> 00:57:42,494 No more pork chops. 1016 00:57:42,594 --> 00:57:44,963 Well, the Black church just closed down. 1017 00:57:45,063 --> 00:57:49,868 I chose this church primarily because it's a gay and lesbian church. 1018 00:57:52,203 --> 00:57:54,172 Over the years growing up in the South 1019 00:57:54,272 --> 00:57:57,342 and being a product of the Southern Baptist church, 1020 00:57:57,442 --> 00:58:01,646 it was very restrictive to me, as far as being a Black woman. 1021 00:58:01,746 --> 00:58:06,684 And here at Unity, I can bring all of me whenever I come on Sunday. 1022 00:58:08,553 --> 00:58:10,088 It was okay. 1023 00:58:10,188 --> 00:58:13,525 And such a small word that meant so much — "Okay." 1024 00:58:13,625 --> 00:58:17,529 I was okay. After an hour of service, I was home. 1025 00:58:17,629 --> 00:58:20,431 This is the place that I belong. 1026 00:58:20,532 --> 00:58:25,603 I felt natural, I felt myself, I felt love. 1027 00:58:26,271 --> 00:58:30,375 There is a place where we can rejoice, where I can rejoice. 1028 00:58:30,475 --> 00:58:34,245 I try as best I can to always get my parishioners 1029 00:58:34,345 --> 00:58:38,016 to look at how we are all really alike. 1030 00:58:38,116 --> 00:58:40,084 And once you do that, 1031 00:58:40,185 --> 00:58:43,821 we can then give and receive healing, one from the other. 1032 00:58:43,922 --> 00:58:45,723 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ Are you glad? ♪ 1033 00:58:45,823 --> 00:58:48,026 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ Are you glad? ♪ 1034 00:58:48,126 --> 00:58:50,295 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ Are you glad? ♪ 1035 00:58:50,395 --> 00:58:52,564 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ I'm glad ♪ 1036 00:58:52,664 --> 00:58:54,699 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ I'm glad ♪ 1037 00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:56,801 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ I'm glad ♪ 1038 00:58:56,901 --> 00:58:59,103 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ I'm glad ♪ 1039 00:58:59,204 --> 00:59:01,339 - ♪ I'm so glad he prays ♪ - ♪ I'm glad ♪ 1040 00:59:01,439 --> 00:59:03,975 ♪ I'm so glad he prays for me ♪ 1041 00:59:04,075 --> 00:59:08,479 - How are you feeling, Marlon? - I feel a little sort of under today. 1042 00:59:08,580 --> 00:59:12,183 My stomach is queasy, but it's getting better. 1043 00:59:12,283 --> 00:59:14,185 'Cause I think it might — 1044 00:59:14,285 --> 00:59:17,689 People need to know why I'm interviewing you 1045 00:59:17,789 --> 00:59:21,092 - and you're lying down in your bed. - Mm-hmm. 1046 00:59:21,192 --> 00:59:24,729 Yeah, it's like when I eat, if I eat too fast, 1047 00:59:24,829 --> 00:59:28,900 my stomach gets bloated and I stop digesting my food. 1048 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,838 And I have this sort of bloated, queasy feeling. 1049 00:59:33,938 --> 00:59:37,008 So I'm here with a hot pad on my stomach. 1050 00:59:38,042 --> 00:59:42,747 That's helping 'cause it's starting to growl and digest. 1051 00:59:50,288 --> 00:59:52,790 - How many children did you have? - Fifteen. 1052 00:59:53,458 --> 00:59:55,426 - Fifteen? - Yeah, I run out. 1053 00:59:57,095 --> 00:59:58,763 Are you serious? Fifteen children? 1054 00:59:58,863 --> 01:00:01,466 Uh-huh, 15. Mother of 15. 1055 01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,069 Hmm. How did you raise that many children? 1056 01:00:05,169 --> 01:00:06,571 Oh, they wasn't nothing to raise, 1057 01:00:06,671 --> 01:00:09,107 'cause people was planting and raising corn 1058 01:00:09,207 --> 01:00:13,177 and sweet potatoes, white potatoes and cane... 1059 01:00:14,178 --> 01:00:17,081 and everything they wanted then, they was raising it, 1060 01:00:17,181 --> 01:00:18,783 all but the flour. 1061 01:00:19,984 --> 01:00:23,921 I raised hogs, cows, chickens, 1062 01:00:24,022 --> 01:00:25,523 geese, ducks... 1063 01:00:27,625 --> 01:00:28,926 guineas. 1064 01:00:33,965 --> 01:00:36,334 - What was that — Uh-oh. - I got him that time. 1065 01:00:36,434 --> 01:00:40,371 You got him that time. About time you grabbed him. 1066 01:00:40,471 --> 01:00:42,774 I knowed he had to be slow. 1067 01:00:42,874 --> 01:00:45,576 - You gonna keep him? - Yeah, he'll make a great steak. 1068 01:00:45,677 --> 01:00:48,379 Yeah, I know. 1069 01:00:49,781 --> 01:00:50,748 You know, I... 1070 01:00:50,848 --> 01:00:53,017 When you asked about family, 1071 01:00:53,117 --> 01:00:55,453 ask these kids here, "Who am I?" 1072 01:00:55,553 --> 01:01:01,159 I'm their cousin, I'm his cousin, his father is my uncle, 1073 01:01:01,259 --> 01:01:03,795 but he raised me so they call me their sister. 1074 01:01:03,895 --> 01:01:07,098 Their children call me their auntie, which I'm not. 1075 01:01:07,198 --> 01:01:08,900 But this is how close we are. 1076 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,135 He calls me Auntie. I'm not his aunt. 1077 01:01:11,235 --> 01:01:13,004 His father is my first cousin, 1078 01:01:13,104 --> 01:01:16,908 but we come up as loving each other and it brings — 1079 01:01:17,008 --> 01:01:18,543 We're all a different generation here. 1080 01:01:18,643 --> 01:01:24,816 We're coming together today to celebrate Daddy's tenth anniversary of his death. 1081 01:01:24,916 --> 01:01:28,986 And because Mtumishi is the oldest of the family, 1082 01:01:29,087 --> 01:01:34,792 Mtumishi is going to give us the cepha, the libation. 1083 01:01:34,892 --> 01:01:37,762 It is the tradition of our ancestors 1084 01:01:37,862 --> 01:01:40,264 to always give praise to those who have gone before us. 1085 01:01:40,365 --> 01:01:41,733 So let us start. 1086 01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:47,972 May we always remember Harold St. Julien and all those who have gone before us. 1087 01:01:48,072 --> 01:01:49,607 My father was a good man, 1088 01:01:49,707 --> 01:01:51,843 had a sense of humor, a great storyteller. 1089 01:01:51,943 --> 01:01:54,979 The person who loved me the most as a kid, 1090 01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:56,280 I felt, was my grandfather. 1091 01:01:56,381 --> 01:01:59,283 Big Mama Vi is dead. 1092 01:01:59,384 --> 01:02:01,386 But I remember her so well. 1093 01:02:01,486 --> 01:02:04,655 Oh, she was so — She was shorter than me. 1094 01:02:04,756 --> 01:02:09,894 His smells fill my nostrils with the scent of happiness. 1095 01:02:09,994 --> 01:02:13,765 May our children and our children's children 1096 01:02:13,865 --> 01:02:19,537 carry forth with pride the nobility of our history and tradition. 1097 01:02:22,774 --> 01:02:25,209 Let's eat. 1098 01:02:28,212 --> 01:02:29,847 Family is love. 1099 01:02:29,947 --> 01:02:32,417 We all trust each other and love each other like that. 1100 01:02:32,517 --> 01:02:34,252 Family to me is just love and support. 1101 01:02:34,352 --> 01:02:36,654 It's just love. Just someone that's there for you. 1102 01:02:36,754 --> 01:02:38,723 It don't have to be a mother or a father. 1103 01:02:38,823 --> 01:02:41,692 It could be your next-door neighbor's grandmama. 1104 01:02:41,793 --> 01:02:44,529 For real, it could. 1105 01:02:44,629 --> 01:02:47,398 Back then we had a family in the whole community. 1106 01:02:47,498 --> 01:02:49,167 We looked out for each other. 1107 01:02:49,267 --> 01:02:54,205 If someone butchered a pig, the close people around them, 1108 01:02:54,305 --> 01:02:56,974 they would send them a piece of meat. 1109 01:02:57,074 --> 01:03:01,446 If their cow's giving milk, or their cow quit giving milk, 1110 01:03:01,546 --> 01:03:02,713 they would call over and say, 1111 01:03:02,814 --> 01:03:05,450 "Send that boy ahead to get a quart of milk," 1112 01:03:05,550 --> 01:03:09,821 or some eggs, or some peas, or some potatoes. 1113 01:03:09,921 --> 01:03:13,491 Now, that is family. That's another family. 1114 01:03:13,591 --> 01:03:17,662 My father grew up in Marengo County, Alabama, 1115 01:03:17,762 --> 01:03:20,498 um, on the border of Mississippi. 1116 01:03:20,598 --> 01:03:23,568 And as a child, I spent summers 1117 01:03:23,668 --> 01:03:29,073 with my uncles and aunts who still lived on that land. 1118 01:03:29,173 --> 01:03:31,375 I just had so much fun, you know. 1119 01:03:31,476 --> 01:03:33,044 Never had to put on a shoe. 1120 01:03:33,144 --> 01:03:37,582 We could run for acres and miles 1121 01:03:37,682 --> 01:03:42,453 and still be on land that was ours, that was my uncle's and aunt's. 1122 01:03:42,553 --> 01:03:47,291 My uncle grew cotton. He grew watermelons. He grew all kinds of greens. 1123 01:03:48,926 --> 01:03:51,229 Handed down from generation to generation. 1124 01:03:51,329 --> 01:03:54,866 My great-grandfather owned this land from slavery. 1125 01:03:54,966 --> 01:03:59,537 Got this land — 40 acres and a mule? This is part of his 40 acres. 1126 01:04:00,371 --> 01:04:01,939 It's in your blood. 1127 01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:05,176 It's in your blood. You love it, every minute of it. 1128 01:04:05,276 --> 01:04:09,180 If you didn't like it, you wouldn't be bothered with this. 1129 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,915 It's not just the money, 1130 01:04:11,015 --> 01:04:17,722 'cause farming is one of the lowest-paying jobs around. 1131 01:04:18,456 --> 01:04:22,793 You're doing it because you like it. 1132 01:04:23,494 --> 01:04:26,564 Love it, not like it. Love it. 1133 01:04:26,664 --> 01:04:31,135 I think that rural life symbolizes, 1134 01:04:31,235 --> 01:04:33,971 for many of us, backwardness, 1135 01:04:34,071 --> 01:04:40,344 that perhaps there is a tendency to want to distance ourselves 1136 01:04:40,444 --> 01:04:45,283 from, uh, rural, agrarian ways of living 1137 01:04:45,383 --> 01:04:49,820 because of its association, for African Americans, with slavery. 1138 01:04:50,821 --> 01:04:53,925 But there's also something else there. 1139 01:04:54,025 --> 01:04:57,929 There are memories there. There's joy there. 1140 01:04:58,029 --> 01:05:00,698 There's, um... 1141 01:05:01,632 --> 01:05:04,569 a willingness to remember. 1142 01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:19,150 The project, in part, deals with my struggle with AIDS. 1143 01:05:24,021 --> 01:05:27,224 And I'm struggling in a deep way now. 1144 01:05:40,004 --> 01:05:44,408 Once, when I was visiting my cousins in Baton Rouge, 1145 01:05:44,508 --> 01:05:49,513 a friend of theirs upbraided me for trying to talk "proper." 1146 01:05:49,614 --> 01:05:53,651 "He don't talk proper," my cousins defended. 1147 01:05:53,751 --> 01:05:55,686 "He just from Texas." 1148 01:05:57,154 --> 01:06:01,659 When I was a kid, they spoke a language 1149 01:06:01,759 --> 01:06:04,095 which we are now trying to preserve, 1150 01:06:04,195 --> 01:06:06,464 and they call it Gullah. 1151 01:06:06,564 --> 01:06:08,833 It's a part of the English language... 1152 01:06:10,134 --> 01:06:11,802 and then again it is different. 1153 01:06:11,902 --> 01:06:15,006 If I take you to Land's End right now, some people say, 1154 01:06:15,106 --> 01:06:19,410 "Pork it, pit that bat, sho, sho the boy yea." 1155 01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:22,913 In Land's End, "Sho the boy yea, sho the boy." 1156 01:06:23,014 --> 01:06:24,882 No one can take that from you, 1157 01:06:24,982 --> 01:06:28,586 that Gullah language that is with the people who speaks Gullah. 1158 01:06:28,686 --> 01:06:32,723 I enjoyed speaking to a young man that was from Africa. 1159 01:06:32,823 --> 01:06:35,893 He was here, we sat and drank coffee, we chatted, 1160 01:06:35,993 --> 01:06:39,296 and I like the way he spoke because he speak like I do. 1161 01:06:39,397 --> 01:06:40,731 Not like I'm doing now. 1162 01:06:40,831 --> 01:06:44,435 I mean, in the accent of how our people speak 1163 01:06:44,535 --> 01:06:46,237 and myself before. 1164 01:06:47,471 --> 01:06:50,675 When I listen to the voices within my family, 1165 01:06:50,775 --> 01:06:54,045 I hear the evolution of rhythms and cadences 1166 01:06:54,145 --> 01:06:56,080 from generation to generation. 1167 01:06:56,180 --> 01:06:58,282 Big Mama still sounds country. 1168 01:06:58,382 --> 01:07:02,553 Oh, Lordy, isn't that a shame. How come she don't buy her some... 1169 01:07:02,653 --> 01:07:05,156 Mama sounds Black, but not country. 1170 01:07:05,256 --> 01:07:07,692 I never cooked as a kid, right? 1171 01:07:07,792 --> 01:07:09,860 Never got in the kitchen or anything. 1172 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,830 My sister could easily pass for white. 1173 01:07:12,930 --> 01:07:15,966 And my boss's daughter is having a baby, 1174 01:07:16,067 --> 01:07:19,303 and her daughter's birthday is the 27th and the baby's expected on the 27th. 1175 01:07:19,403 --> 01:07:23,974 At Harvard, people often marked me for the difference in my voice. 1176 01:07:24,075 --> 01:07:27,745 I didn't sound country, I didn't sound white, 1177 01:07:27,845 --> 01:07:29,747 but just as much, I didn't sound Black, 1178 01:07:29,847 --> 01:07:33,451 in the way so-called Black English 1179 01:07:33,551 --> 01:07:37,054 was spoken at Harvard or elsewhere. 1180 01:07:37,154 --> 01:07:38,589 - What's happenin'? - What it is? 1181 01:07:38,689 --> 01:07:40,524 - What it be like? - It's all you, my brother. 1182 01:07:40,624 --> 01:07:42,159 - Give me five. - Right on. 1183 01:07:42,259 --> 01:07:44,295 - Peace out. - Girl, I heard that. 1184 01:07:44,395 --> 01:07:46,397 - Stay cool. - Ain't it the truth? 1185 01:07:46,497 --> 01:07:48,332 - Yo, yo, yo. - Work that booty. 1186 01:07:48,432 --> 01:07:50,367 Bring your tired, Black ass over here. 1187 01:07:50,468 --> 01:07:52,703 Get down, get down. 1188 01:07:52,803 --> 01:07:56,340 You no-count, frog-faced, lizard-lipped baboon. 1189 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,176 - Give me some skin. - It's a Black thang. 1190 01:07:59,276 --> 01:08:02,379 Can't you understand? It's a Black thang. Can't you understand? 1191 01:08:05,082 --> 01:08:08,185 I was very committed to the civil rights movement, 1192 01:08:08,285 --> 01:08:12,456 but I was constantly getting the message that I was not Black enough. 1193 01:08:12,556 --> 01:08:15,760 You know how they did that back in those days? They probably still do. 1194 01:08:15,860 --> 01:08:19,263 I was not Black enough because I was at an elite school. 1195 01:08:19,363 --> 01:08:20,631 I was not Black enough 1196 01:08:20,731 --> 01:08:24,268 because I spoke, you know, fairly standard English. 1197 01:08:24,368 --> 01:08:26,704 You're acting white, or you're imitating. 1198 01:08:26,804 --> 01:08:29,907 You're mindlessly imitating whites, is the critique. 1199 01:08:30,007 --> 01:08:33,677 You know, you're doing an Amos 'n' Andy, you're doing a Stepin Fetchit. 1200 01:08:33,778 --> 01:08:37,081 There was a time when I felt ashamed almost 1201 01:08:37,181 --> 01:08:41,819 of the fact that I had studied in France and studied in Germany, right? 1202 01:08:41,919 --> 01:08:44,522 Because we were supposed to be talking about Africa, not Europe. 1203 01:08:44,622 --> 01:08:48,659 It's something you can always pull out. I mean, "Why are you wearing shorts? 1204 01:08:48,759 --> 01:08:51,195 That's — White people wear shorts." 1205 01:08:51,295 --> 01:08:53,164 I mean, you can always use that. 1206 01:08:53,264 --> 01:08:57,668 And I know the way I act and the way I talk and the way I think 1207 01:08:57,768 --> 01:09:01,205 reflects all the places that I've been, and I've been a lot of places. 1208 01:09:01,305 --> 01:09:04,575 There's a sense in which everything we've ever done as Afro-Americans 1209 01:09:04,675 --> 01:09:06,677 can be interpreted in that vein, 1210 01:09:06,777 --> 01:09:09,814 and so it gets to a point where that critique just doesn't make any sense. 1211 01:09:09,914 --> 01:09:14,285 I mean, after all, we are speaking the King's English right now. 1212 01:09:14,385 --> 01:09:15,719 When I start speaking, you know... 1213 01:09:18,055 --> 01:09:20,991 You're gonna say to me, "Well, you're not really African." 1214 01:09:21,091 --> 01:09:22,760 And then when I go down the block 1215 01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:25,696 and talk to my man Umbake, who's from Senegal, 1216 01:09:25,796 --> 01:09:27,798 and we're both speaking French, 1217 01:09:27,898 --> 01:09:31,535 and he is African — he was born in Africa — 1218 01:09:31,635 --> 01:09:34,805 and you with your African self can't speak French, 1219 01:09:34,905 --> 01:09:37,675 then who's African, and who's African American? 1220 01:09:37,775 --> 01:09:39,777 Who's legit and who ain't? 1221 01:09:39,877 --> 01:09:45,449 I've heard questions of Blackness raised when Blacks moved into the suburbs, okay. 1222 01:09:45,549 --> 01:09:51,488 Um, as we've moved up in the economic system in this country, 1223 01:09:51,589 --> 01:09:54,458 some of us, there have been charges — 1224 01:09:54,558 --> 01:09:56,560 Well, you know, that person's no longer Black. 1225 01:09:56,660 --> 01:09:59,063 They don't come through the hood. They don't even live here. 1226 01:09:59,163 --> 01:10:01,765 They live out, you know, 50 miles outside of the city. 1227 01:10:01,866 --> 01:10:04,468 They commute in every day. Their kids are going to school with white kids. 1228 01:10:04,568 --> 01:10:06,470 "Listen to how their kids talk." 1229 01:10:08,005 --> 01:10:10,608 ♪ Livin' way out, niggas go home... ♪ 1230 01:10:10,708 --> 01:10:12,543 There are those who would feel 1231 01:10:12,643 --> 01:10:16,313 that some members of the African American middle class 1232 01:10:16,413 --> 01:10:21,352 no longer identify with being Black. 1233 01:10:21,452 --> 01:10:25,890 But I think when you define what being Black has to do — 1234 01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:27,591 It has nothing to do with — 1235 01:10:27,691 --> 01:10:29,627 It's not about economics. 1236 01:10:30,361 --> 01:10:33,864 It is not about economics. It's really about values. 1237 01:10:33,964 --> 01:10:37,835 We know where we've been. We know what we've come from. 1238 01:10:37,935 --> 01:10:40,271 We know what we have to contribute. 1239 01:10:40,371 --> 01:10:42,640 It's a matter of constantly saying, 1240 01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:46,710 how can you in your small way, whatever you do — 1241 01:10:46,810 --> 01:10:51,215 It may not be as significant as a Malcolm X or a Martin Luther King, 1242 01:10:51,315 --> 01:10:55,219 but what have you done to give back to the Black community? 1243 01:10:55,319 --> 01:10:59,123 Perhaps the standard, frightening as it may be, 1244 01:10:59,223 --> 01:11:02,860 is the inner city for defining what Blackness is, 1245 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,596 that you've got to, you know, constantly be up 1246 01:11:05,696 --> 01:11:10,234 on the changes in the hip language, the hip Black language, 1247 01:11:10,334 --> 01:11:14,838 the hip Black fashions, the hip Black music. 1248 01:11:14,939 --> 01:11:21,011 You've got to use your ghetto experience as, you know, your American Express card. 1249 01:11:21,111 --> 01:11:23,013 ♪ You only got yourself to blame ♪ 1250 01:11:23,113 --> 01:11:24,848 ♪ Get a grip, Oreo ♪ 1251 01:11:24,949 --> 01:11:27,084 ♪ And be true to the gang ♪ 1252 01:11:28,986 --> 01:11:31,956 Like, I'm a born, bred, raised Harlemite. 1253 01:11:32,056 --> 01:11:35,993 I knew what the hood was probably before most of these kids were born. 1254 01:11:36,093 --> 01:11:39,763 And the reality is, do you live your life in struggle 1255 01:11:39,863 --> 01:11:42,599 around trying to prove a point 1256 01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:46,437 to someone that doesn't really give a damn about your reality, 1257 01:11:46,537 --> 01:11:48,772 or do you determine what's important to you? 1258 01:11:48,872 --> 01:11:51,775 I will pull out my Blackness and you pull out yours. 1259 01:11:51,875 --> 01:11:54,011 I have no problem in defending mine. 1260 01:11:54,111 --> 01:11:59,049 And I think I speak for a lot of people in the African American middle class. 1261 01:11:59,149 --> 01:12:02,987 Um, you know, you can't live in this society and not be Black. 1262 01:12:03,087 --> 01:12:05,522 The society won't let you forget you're Black, 1263 01:12:05,622 --> 01:12:07,458 but you don't want to forget you're Black. 1264 01:12:13,464 --> 01:12:16,166 Fatigue, nausea, fever, chills. 1265 01:12:16,266 --> 01:12:19,870 Strange how we adapt so easily 1266 01:12:19,970 --> 01:12:23,540 to extraordinary circumstances. 1267 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,277 I've experienced an array of illnesses and infections. 1268 01:12:27,378 --> 01:12:29,847 Oral hairy cell leukoplakia, pneumonia, 1269 01:12:29,947 --> 01:12:33,217 gastrointestinal bleeding, herpes, anemia, systemic blood infection, 1270 01:12:33,317 --> 01:12:35,853 gallstones, respiratory failure, renal failure, heart failure. 1271 01:12:35,953 --> 01:12:40,224 The list goes on, and yet I am alive. 1272 01:12:46,730 --> 01:12:48,032 Good morning. 1273 01:12:48,132 --> 01:12:49,800 At least 30 fires are burning in Los Angeles 1274 01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:52,703 after a night of rage in the city's Black community. 1275 01:12:52,803 --> 01:12:55,005 Angry mobs set swarms of fires 1276 01:12:55,105 --> 01:12:58,175 in the predominantly Black South Central part of the city. 1277 01:12:58,275 --> 01:12:59,510 There were so many blazes, 1278 01:12:59,610 --> 01:13:02,312 the fire department couldn't respond to all of the calls 1279 01:13:02,413 --> 01:13:04,948 and just let some buildings burn to the ground. 1280 01:13:08,285 --> 01:13:10,654 At least two firefighters were wounded. 1281 01:13:10,754 --> 01:13:14,191 Looting broke out in many neighborhoods before police moved in 1282 01:13:14,291 --> 01:13:16,393 and began rounding up suspects. 1283 01:13:16,493 --> 01:13:18,328 The show of force began this morning, 1284 01:13:18,429 --> 01:13:21,698 as National Guardsmen took up positions in the streets of Los Angeles. 1285 01:13:31,408 --> 01:13:32,609 We gotta make a living. 1286 01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:34,645 We gotta make a living the best way we can. 1287 01:13:34,745 --> 01:13:38,282 If that means by selling dope, I guess we gotta sell dope. 1288 01:13:38,382 --> 01:13:40,184 Ain't nobody rich in the ghetto. 1289 01:13:40,284 --> 01:13:42,252 Nobody rich in the ghetto. 1290 01:13:42,352 --> 01:13:44,488 If we was rich, we wouldn't be here. 1291 01:13:44,588 --> 01:13:47,758 I ain't gonna be out here every day, out here gangbanging, man. 1292 01:13:47,858 --> 01:13:50,360 After I graduate from high school, I'm going somewhere. 1293 01:13:50,461 --> 01:13:52,262 I ain't gonna be out here every day. 1294 01:13:52,362 --> 01:13:55,232 There ain't shit out here but pain. Fuck this shit. 1295 01:13:55,332 --> 01:13:58,535 If I had a chance to start over again... 1296 01:14:00,404 --> 01:14:02,473 I wouldn't — I wouldn't turn down that wrong path. 1297 01:14:02,573 --> 01:14:05,309 I'd try to go the right way, get my education. 1298 01:14:05,409 --> 01:14:06,510 I wouldn't be here today. 1299 01:14:06,610 --> 01:14:10,147 I'd be here today, but I'd be in a right mind. 1300 01:14:10,247 --> 01:14:11,915 I wouldn't be gangbanging. 1301 01:14:13,650 --> 01:14:16,887 I'd be telling y'all a whole different story about a good life. 1302 01:14:18,422 --> 01:14:22,526 It'd be a whole different story. I'd go to this school right here. 1303 01:14:22,626 --> 01:14:25,896 See, 'cause right now, I be going to school every day. 1304 01:14:25,996 --> 01:14:28,999 Right now, I do not miss school a day. You know what I'm saying? 1305 01:14:29,099 --> 01:14:31,068 'Cause I gotta have that education, man. 1306 01:14:31,168 --> 01:14:33,103 'Cause the white man is not gonna let you do shit. 1307 01:14:33,203 --> 01:14:35,272 A high school diploma ain't nothing no more. 1308 01:14:35,372 --> 01:14:37,808 You gotta have a — You gotta master in something. 1309 01:14:37,908 --> 01:14:40,444 A high school diploma ain't nothing no more, man. 1310 01:14:40,544 --> 01:14:43,413 You can't even work at McDonald's with a high school diploma. 1311 01:14:43,514 --> 01:14:45,616 That's why, you know, I'ma try to be something. 1312 01:14:45,716 --> 01:14:48,352 And when I get up, I'ma take them with me. 1313 01:14:48,452 --> 01:14:51,255 'Cause I don't wanna leave none of my friends or family in the ghetto, 1314 01:14:51,355 --> 01:14:52,789 'cause there ain't shit in the ghetto. 1315 01:14:52,890 --> 01:14:54,625 Gotta tell the little generation how to grow. 1316 01:14:54,725 --> 01:14:58,128 See, nobody told us, "That ain't good for you." 1317 01:14:58,228 --> 01:15:00,764 No, they let us grow up to gangbang. It's too late now. 1318 01:15:00,864 --> 01:15:03,333 - I ain't saying it's too late — - It ain't never too late. 1319 01:15:03,433 --> 01:15:06,970 Yeah, it ain't never too late, but we gotta tell the next generation 1320 01:15:07,070 --> 01:15:10,707 before they grow up and be like us, and that ain't even it. 1321 01:15:18,182 --> 01:15:21,418 "Don't let it be loneliness that kills us 1322 01:15:21,518 --> 01:15:24,021 "If we must die on the front line 1323 01:15:24,121 --> 01:15:27,758 "Let us die loved by both sexes 1324 01:15:27,858 --> 01:15:31,228 "Don't let it be envy that drives us to suck our thumbs 1325 01:15:31,328 --> 01:15:35,098 "Or shoot each other dead over snake eyes 1326 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:39,036 "Let us not be dancing with the wind on heavy corners 1327 01:15:39,136 --> 01:15:41,205 "Tattered by doom 1328 01:15:41,305 --> 01:15:44,608 "Let us not accept partial justice 1329 01:15:44,708 --> 01:15:47,311 "If we believe our lives are priceless 1330 01:15:47,411 --> 01:15:49,980 "We can't be conquered 1331 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,817 "If we must die on the front line 1332 01:15:53,917 --> 01:15:56,920 Don't let loneliness kill us." 1333 01:16:07,297 --> 01:16:09,900 This sets the tone for what we're accomplishing. 1334 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,370 Bloods and Crips being able to shake hands, go to parks together... 1335 01:16:13,470 --> 01:16:15,839 What you're seeing right here is history in the making, 1336 01:16:15,939 --> 01:16:18,075 and the tying of the red and the blue knot, 1337 01:16:18,175 --> 01:16:22,379 is a significant indication that these brothers and sisters 1338 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,782 - want an opportunity to see 1993. - Peace in the neighborhood. 1339 01:16:25,882 --> 01:16:29,753 Okay, it took the riot, it took all this and the police beating King 1340 01:16:29,853 --> 01:16:33,323 to bring us together, to realize that we just killing ourselves. 1341 01:16:33,423 --> 01:16:35,492 We gotta learn to trust to each other. 1342 01:16:35,592 --> 01:16:38,595 You know, like they say, this truce, that's where it's gotta begin. 1343 01:16:38,695 --> 01:16:41,565 We gotta learn to say, "Okay, man, I know we're done. 1344 01:16:41,665 --> 01:16:43,133 Let's start trusting each other. 1345 01:16:43,233 --> 01:16:45,402 Let's take that wall down. 1346 01:16:45,502 --> 01:16:47,471 Let me help you, my brother. All right?" 1347 01:16:47,571 --> 01:16:50,040 But we don't even got no unity yet, man. 1348 01:16:50,107 --> 01:16:51,375 You know? 1349 01:16:51,475 --> 01:16:54,211 I go to church every Sunday and we talk about unity, 1350 01:16:54,311 --> 01:16:56,546 and it's hard to get Christians to have unity. 1351 01:16:56,647 --> 01:16:59,016 So, you know, we got to have togetherness, man. 1352 01:16:59,116 --> 01:17:01,385 We got to be Black people as one. 1353 01:17:01,485 --> 01:17:04,321 We have too many evil allies, I believe myself. 1354 01:17:04,421 --> 01:17:08,292 That's why we can't get unity within the Black nation. 1355 01:17:08,392 --> 01:17:10,127 I always get this sort of feeling 1356 01:17:10,227 --> 01:17:15,132 that when Black people talk about unity and community, 1357 01:17:15,232 --> 01:17:18,001 you know, that it's kind of like a turf war thing. 1358 01:17:18,101 --> 01:17:20,971 We're gonna get together and this is gonna be our block, 1359 01:17:21,071 --> 01:17:24,875 and if you come on our block, we're gonna kick your ass. 1360 01:17:24,975 --> 01:17:29,479 And I always think I'm gonna be the one whose ass is gonna get kicked. 1361 01:17:30,981 --> 01:17:35,018 I think all Black people have to reconcile themselves 1362 01:17:35,118 --> 01:17:37,421 to each other, 1363 01:17:37,521 --> 01:17:39,289 to our differences, 1364 01:17:39,389 --> 01:17:45,295 and we have to get over the notion that you can only be unified as a people 1365 01:17:45,395 --> 01:17:47,431 as long as everybody agrees. 1366 01:17:47,531 --> 01:17:50,200 You know, we don't achieve freedom by those means. 1367 01:17:50,300 --> 01:17:54,237 Well, one, we've got to conceive of new forms of community, 1368 01:17:54,338 --> 01:17:56,373 that we have multiple identities 1369 01:17:56,473 --> 01:17:59,509 and we're moving out of various communities all at the same time. 1370 01:17:59,609 --> 01:18:02,846 There's no one grand Black community. 1371 01:18:02,946 --> 01:18:06,083 It seems to me that we would do well as Black folks 1372 01:18:06,183 --> 01:18:10,587 to replace the notion of unity with the notion of communion. 1373 01:18:10,687 --> 01:18:12,556 The root meaning of it would suggest 1374 01:18:12,656 --> 01:18:16,660 that our union is fundamentally based on a notion 1375 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,797 that we must be willing and able to communicate with one another. 1376 01:18:20,897 --> 01:18:24,868 Because I think that so often, when Black folks evoke unity, 1377 01:18:24,968 --> 01:18:27,637 again, it's the flattening out of differences, 1378 01:18:27,738 --> 01:18:34,211 the sweeping certain things under the rug so that we can appear to be alike, 1379 01:18:34,311 --> 01:18:37,414 that we hold one stand, that we have one position. 1380 01:18:37,514 --> 01:18:39,249 I think communion, 1381 01:18:39,349 --> 01:18:42,486 and its connection to the notion of community, 1382 01:18:42,586 --> 01:18:46,757 um, might give us greater strength and possibility. 1383 01:18:52,429 --> 01:18:56,099 Marlon, what kind of dreams have you been having lately? 1384 01:18:56,199 --> 01:18:57,567 Um... 1385 01:18:59,002 --> 01:19:01,972 dreams about dialysis. 1386 01:19:02,072 --> 01:19:05,308 Um, sometimes dreams in which they're not dreams. 1387 01:19:05,375 --> 01:19:06,877 It's like MTV. 1388 01:19:06,977 --> 01:19:10,313 I just watch it sort of flashing, different things flashing. 1389 01:19:10,414 --> 01:19:14,017 What about this dream that you were having not too long ago, 1390 01:19:14,117 --> 01:19:16,286 when you were dreaming about Harriet Tubman? 1391 01:19:16,386 --> 01:19:17,587 Mm-hmm. 1392 01:19:17,687 --> 01:19:22,426 This is when I was feeling really sick in the ER and so forth. 1393 01:19:22,526 --> 01:19:27,264 Um, just her coming and standing by me, not saying anything, 1394 01:19:27,364 --> 01:19:30,033 so I had to become aware of her presence. 1395 01:19:30,133 --> 01:19:34,471 And then just looking into my eyes, 1396 01:19:34,571 --> 01:19:37,140 and then looking at the river in front of us. 1397 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,309 - Where were you? - I don't know. 1398 01:19:39,409 --> 01:19:44,414 Some dark foresty place with a river running through it. 1399 01:19:45,081 --> 01:19:48,885 Um, and kind of running pretty fiercely. 1400 01:19:48,985 --> 01:19:52,289 Um, yeah, she didn't say anything. It was with her eyes. 1401 01:19:52,389 --> 01:19:57,160 She just looked at me and then turned and looked at the river, 1402 01:19:57,260 --> 01:19:59,062 and we started walking. 1403 01:19:59,896 --> 01:20:02,032 Harriet and I walked across the river. 1404 01:20:03,834 --> 01:20:06,369 And what do you think that dream was about? 1405 01:20:07,804 --> 01:20:11,374 Overcoming the present crisis. 1406 01:20:11,475 --> 01:20:14,878 I mean, you know, there's gonna be more. I know that. 1407 01:20:14,978 --> 01:20:17,948 I'm gonna be laid up in the hospital again. 1408 01:20:18,048 --> 01:20:20,750 But as long as I have Harriet 1409 01:20:20,851 --> 01:20:23,954 and Black Is... Black Ain't to go traveling with, 1410 01:20:24,054 --> 01:20:26,122 I'm gonna cross that river. 1411 01:20:26,223 --> 01:20:29,192 If I have work, then I'm not gonna die, 1412 01:20:29,292 --> 01:20:32,262 'cause work is a living spirit in me... 1413 01:20:33,296 --> 01:20:36,199 that which wants to connect with other people 1414 01:20:36,299 --> 01:20:39,369 and pass on something to them 1415 01:20:39,469 --> 01:20:43,173 that they can use in their own lives and grow from. 1416 01:20:43,273 --> 01:20:48,378 ♪ I shall not ♪ 1417 01:20:48,478 --> 01:20:50,547 I know there'll come a time 1418 01:20:50,647 --> 01:20:55,719 when I won't be able to get up out of this bed, 1419 01:20:55,819 --> 01:21:01,324 and all we can do is just take me home and let me lie in my bed, 1420 01:21:01,424 --> 01:21:03,727 and I can look out the window. 1421 01:21:03,827 --> 01:21:07,163 And then it may reach a point where I can't even open up my eyes, 1422 01:21:07,264 --> 01:21:10,133 and I'm just, I'm lying there, 1423 01:21:10,233 --> 01:21:13,537 and I want my mother and I want my grandmother 1424 01:21:13,637 --> 01:21:15,639 and Jack to be there 1425 01:21:15,739 --> 01:21:20,277 to hold my hand and to rub my head and feet 1426 01:21:20,377 --> 01:21:22,345 and let me die. 1427 01:21:22,445 --> 01:21:28,318 ♪ I shall not ♪ 1428 01:21:28,385 --> 01:21:31,655 ♪ Be ♪ 1429 01:21:31,755 --> 01:21:35,225 ♪ Removed ♪ 1430 01:21:41,631 --> 01:21:46,703 If a people is like gumbo, then you might ask, what is the roux? 1431 01:21:46,803 --> 01:21:52,409 That special element that binds and gives everything its distinct flavor. 1432 01:21:53,877 --> 01:21:57,847 Well, you take some color — 1433 01:21:57,948 --> 01:22:01,117 a dash or a big dollop, it don't matter — 1434 01:22:01,217 --> 01:22:04,020 and you blend it with an assortment of physical features 1435 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:09,492 that reflect every face you might possibly encounter on this great earth, 1436 01:22:09,593 --> 01:22:12,862 mix that up with a culture that just loves 1437 01:22:12,963 --> 01:22:17,100 to improvise, signify, reclaim, 1438 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,970 renew and read, 1439 01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:23,740 and you've got it — the recipe for Black folk. 1440 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:29,079 So I wonder, why is there still so much commotion 1441 01:22:29,179 --> 01:22:32,949 when we add a few salt-looking people to the stew. 1442 01:22:33,049 --> 01:22:37,420 Black folk been looking like white folk since the first traveler from Europe 1443 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,757 bred with the first African woman he encountered. 1444 01:22:40,857 --> 01:22:43,560 You let people of different colors and cultures come together, 1445 01:22:43,660 --> 01:22:45,095 and they're bound to intermix. 1446 01:22:45,195 --> 01:22:47,964 And since nobody is racially pure around here, 1447 01:22:48,064 --> 01:22:51,334 what sense does it make for us to split hairs and genes 1448 01:22:51,434 --> 01:22:54,371 trying to figure out who's got the true Black blood? 1449 01:22:54,471 --> 01:22:58,775 Still, some folks wanna go off 1450 01:22:58,875 --> 01:23:03,413 about this one acting too white or that one not being Black enough. 1451 01:23:03,513 --> 01:23:06,583 But, honey, let me ask you, what's enough? 1452 01:23:06,683 --> 01:23:09,586 And who's to judge? 1453 01:23:09,686 --> 01:23:11,521 Haven't we had enough of folks telling other folks 1454 01:23:11,621 --> 01:23:14,758 what's proper, how to talk, who to love, 1455 01:23:14,858 --> 01:23:16,893 how to dress, wear your hair, 1456 01:23:16,993 --> 01:23:20,664 eat, drink, pray, make love, dance? 1457 01:23:20,764 --> 01:23:23,433 It is time, my sisters and brethren, 1458 01:23:23,533 --> 01:23:26,136 to wake up to a new day, 1459 01:23:26,236 --> 01:23:28,905 a new day of community 1460 01:23:29,005 --> 01:23:34,377 where what unites us are not some obsolete fictions about race, 1461 01:23:34,477 --> 01:23:37,781 but our common purpose of social struggle, 1462 01:23:37,881 --> 01:23:43,019 a new day, my beloveds, of good will and communion 1463 01:23:43,119 --> 01:23:48,124 and hope and always laughter. 1464 01:23:48,224 --> 01:23:51,461 The time is nigh, sisters and brothers! 1465 01:23:56,433 --> 01:24:00,103 The statement I would like to leave as my own personal legacy 1466 01:24:00,203 --> 01:24:02,872 would be one of faith, 1467 01:24:02,972 --> 01:24:07,811 to have faith in each other that we will come through adversities, 1468 01:24:07,911 --> 01:24:09,546 whatever they might be. 1469 01:24:09,646 --> 01:24:12,449 And here, the adversity is really... 1470 01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:17,787 our ability to maintain a sense of communal self. 1471 01:24:17,887 --> 01:24:23,426 So, my faith is the belief that we will achieve that... 1472 01:24:24,494 --> 01:24:28,598 that, against all odds, we'll come through. 1473 01:24:45,448 --> 01:24:47,751 You wanna know my recipe for gumbo? 1474 01:24:47,851 --> 01:24:50,019 - Better be good. - Don't waste my time now. 1475 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,823 Well, I cut up my onions and my celery, 1476 01:24:53,923 --> 01:24:58,328 get out a couple of bay leaves and drop them in the broth. 1477 01:24:58,428 --> 01:25:01,531 Put some basil and black pepper in there too. 1478 01:25:01,631 --> 01:25:05,235 Then I go to the chicken and begin seasoning it. 1479 01:25:05,335 --> 01:25:11,040 Cut up some hot pepper sausage and brown it along with the chicken, 1480 01:25:11,141 --> 01:25:13,376 then shell some shrimp. 1481 01:25:13,476 --> 01:25:16,646 Chicken and sausage go into the broth, 1482 01:25:16,746 --> 01:25:19,415 and I let things simmer. 1483 01:25:19,516 --> 01:25:22,752 - Ooh, baby! Stop. - Then I turn to my roux. 1484 01:25:22,852 --> 01:25:26,322 Now, every person has a secret about their roux, 1485 01:25:26,422 --> 01:25:29,826 and I have mine too, so we'll leave it at that. 1486 01:25:29,926 --> 01:25:36,032 After finishing the roux, I mix it in with the simmering chicken, 1487 01:25:36,132 --> 01:25:40,937 stirring all the while until the brew begins to thicken. 1488 01:25:41,037 --> 01:25:45,074 Then I just go away for a time and let things cook. 1489 01:25:45,175 --> 01:25:48,812 About an hour or so, I put in my shelled shrimp, 1490 01:25:48,912 --> 01:25:52,048 some oysters, some crabs 1491 01:25:52,148 --> 01:25:56,619 and any other seafood I might like until it's all done. 1492 01:25:56,719 --> 01:25:59,189 Now that's gumbo. 1493 01:25:59,289 --> 01:26:02,859 ♪ Lift every voice and sing ♪ 1494 01:26:02,959 --> 01:26:08,865 ♪ Till earth and heaven ring ♪ 1495 01:26:08,965 --> 01:26:15,071 ♪ Ring with the harmonies ♪ 1496 01:26:15,171 --> 01:26:20,910 ♪ Of liberty ♪ 1497 01:26:21,010 --> 01:26:27,116 ♪ Let our rejoicing rise ♪ 1498 01:26:27,217 --> 01:26:33,289 ♪ High as the listening sky ♪ 1499 01:26:33,389 --> 01:26:36,292 ♪ Let it resound ♪ 1500 01:26:36,392 --> 01:26:43,099 ♪ Loud as the rolling sea ♪ 1501 01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:48,104 ♪ Sing a song ♪ 1502 01:26:48,204 --> 01:26:54,911 ♪ Full of the faith That the dark past has taught us ♪ 1503 01:26:55,011 --> 01:26:59,215 ♪ Sing a song ♪ 1504 01:26:59,315 --> 01:27:02,952 ♪ Full of the hope that the present ♪ 1505 01:27:03,052 --> 01:27:06,322 ♪ Has brought ♪ 1506 01:27:06,389 --> 01:27:10,894 ♪ Us ♪ 1507 01:27:12,528 --> 01:27:18,568 ♪ Facing the rising sun ♪ 1508 01:27:18,668 --> 01:27:24,674 ♪ Of our new day begun ♪ 1509 01:27:24,774 --> 01:27:27,710 ♪ Let us march on ♪ 1510 01:27:27,810 --> 01:27:31,848 ♪ Till victory ♪ 1511 01:27:31,915 --> 01:27:36,953 ♪ Is won ♪ 126574

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