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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,711 --> 00:00:05,130 (wind gusting) 2 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:22,439 (ominous music) 3 00:00:28,153 --> 00:00:29,946 - [Man 1] Most people involved in-- 4 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:31,197 - [Woman 1] Looking for a signal-- 5 00:00:32,532 --> 00:00:33,950 - [Man 1] Searching for extraterrestrial intelligence. 6 00:00:33,408 --> 00:00:35,452 - [Woman 1] From an alien civilization. 7 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:37,328 (overlapping speech drowning each other out) 8 00:00:36,995 --> 00:00:39,164 - [Man 1] Never to be explained. 9 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:43,251 (suspenseful music) 10 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:56,639 - [Robert Dixon] Science always seeks the unknown 11 00:00:59,559 --> 00:01:02,312 for answers that we don't understand yet. 12 00:01:09,194 --> 00:01:12,113 Why did Columbus sail across the ocean? 13 00:01:14,824 --> 00:01:16,534 To see what's there, 14 00:01:16,618 --> 00:01:19,245 and discover other people's or other lands. 15 00:01:23,708 --> 00:01:25,502 Are we alone in the universe, 16 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:28,380 or is there really other intelligent life out there? 17 00:01:29,005 --> 00:01:31,091 - [Seth Shostak] The question of intelligent life 18 00:01:31,174 --> 00:01:33,176 is really a big question because it goes beyond 19 00:01:32,926 --> 00:01:34,719 just having biology. 20 00:01:34,302 --> 00:01:36,346 It's biology that got clever enough 21 00:01:36,012 --> 00:01:38,098 to understand the universe. 22 00:01:39,224 --> 00:01:41,184 - [Robert Gray] If there are other civilizations out there 23 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:43,812 we automatically know that all 24 00:01:43,311 --> 00:01:47,774 the questions of life are answered yes. 25 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:52,862 - If we did discover an actual signal 26 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:54,364 from an alien civilization, 27 00:01:53,822 --> 00:01:57,992 it would profoundly change human beings. 28 00:01:59,035 --> 00:02:00,537 - [Seth Shostak] This is discovery. 29 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:02,247 It isn't the kind of science you learn about 30 00:02:01,663 --> 00:02:03,957 in middle school where you have an hypothesis 31 00:02:03,707 --> 00:02:05,250 and you try and falsify. 32 00:02:05,333 --> 00:02:06,835 You can't falsify this hypothesis. 33 00:02:06,918 --> 00:02:08,294 You can't prove they're not out there. 34 00:02:08,378 --> 00:02:10,296 All you can do is discover that they are. 35 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:13,675 - [Robert Dixon] So we have these 50 digits, 36 00:02:13,758 --> 00:02:16,094 so it looks like a bunch of random numbers. 37 00:02:15,427 --> 00:02:21,266 - 6EQUJ5, that was exactly what we were looking for. 38 00:02:22,392 --> 00:02:24,019 - [Robert Gray] I don't think many people have looked 39 00:02:23,727 --> 00:02:26,187 into it in much detail. 40 00:02:25,478 --> 00:02:28,148 - [Man 2] It's an intriguing case 'cause it's a mystery. 41 00:02:28,231 --> 00:02:29,983 We don't know what it was. 42 00:02:29,357 --> 00:02:33,319 - [Tom Burns] It was the strongest signal I ever saw. 43 00:02:33,403 --> 00:02:36,364 An enormously powerful signal. 44 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:40,118 - It is the best evidence that we know of, 45 00:02:39,576 --> 00:02:42,328 of coming from some other civilization. 46 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:43,413 (static hissing) 47 00:02:43,496 --> 00:02:46,750 (electronic warbling) 48 00:02:50,128 --> 00:02:52,714 (gentle music) 49 00:02:58,261 --> 00:02:59,721 - [Narrator] Why do we search? 50 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:03,099 Mankind had always been fascinated 51 00:03:02,557 --> 00:03:05,352 by the possibility of life beyond Earth. 52 00:03:05,935 --> 00:03:09,105 The idea of other civilizations thriving 53 00:03:09,189 --> 00:03:12,317 on distant planets captivates the imagination. 54 00:03:13,985 --> 00:03:15,904 We are driven, perhaps by the hope, 55 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:18,865 that humanity is not alone in the universe. 56 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:22,577 And by science's promise to always seek the unknown. 57 00:03:25,372 --> 00:03:29,834 On August 15, 1977, a massive radio telescope 58 00:03:29,376 --> 00:03:32,337 operated by the Ohio State University 59 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:36,675 detected an unusually powerful signal from deep space. 60 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:38,677 The signal had all the characteristics 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,012 scientists expected in a transmission 62 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:44,224 from an intelligent extraterrestrial source. 63 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:46,893 The event lasted for 72 seconds 64 00:03:46,976 --> 00:03:49,145 and was never heard again. 65 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:52,649 Named the Wow! signal, it was a tantalizing moment 66 00:03:52,148 --> 00:03:55,318 in the search for extraterrestrial life. 67 00:03:54,609 --> 00:03:59,406 And for the relatively young science of radio astronomy. 68 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:03,410 - [Robert Dixon] Started going up, it went 6EQUJ5 69 00:04:03,493 --> 00:04:05,662 as it faded off to the other side. 70 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:08,206 That's a tremendously strong signal. 71 00:04:08,289 --> 00:04:11,167 We'd never seen anything like that before. 72 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:12,460 And that told us that this really 73 00:04:12,544 --> 00:04:14,838 is a very strong narrow band signal 74 00:04:14,921 --> 00:04:17,132 that did not come from some natural source. 75 00:04:18,758 --> 00:04:21,094 - [Narrator] Most are familiar with the traditional science 76 00:04:20,593 --> 00:04:23,930 of optical, or visible light, astronomy. 77 00:04:24,514 --> 00:04:27,058 Optical telescopes capture light rays 78 00:04:27,142 --> 00:04:30,061 and magnify distant objects for closer observation 79 00:04:30,145 --> 00:04:31,563 by the human eye. 80 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:36,484 In comparison, radio astronomy focuses on the invisible, 81 00:04:35,734 --> 00:04:40,572 the radio frequency portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. 82 00:04:40,030 --> 00:04:43,575 Radio telescopes are specialized antennas 83 00:04:43,658 --> 00:04:47,078 and radio receivers that can detect the radio waves 84 00:04:46,536 --> 00:04:49,998 emanating from distant celestial objects. 85 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:54,127 - Every object that produces energy, 86 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:58,340 every star, every galaxy, produces energy 87 00:04:58,006 --> 00:05:00,925 all along the energy range, 88 00:05:00,425 --> 00:05:03,678 which we call the electromagnetic spectrum. 89 00:05:03,762 --> 00:05:06,222 The trouble with a visual telescope 90 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,185 is that it only looks at a part of that spectrum, 91 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:12,562 why I have one right here, 92 00:05:12,645 --> 00:05:15,815 that is very narrow and a very small part. 93 00:05:15,899 --> 00:05:20,153 We actually see a very small part of the universe. 94 00:05:19,611 --> 00:05:23,865 On one hand you have the higher energies 95 00:05:23,948 --> 00:05:28,119 like ultraviolet and xrays and gamma rays. 96 00:05:28,203 --> 00:05:31,164 On the lower end, down below the red, 97 00:05:30,622 --> 00:05:33,333 you have the very low frequency energies 98 00:05:33,083 --> 00:05:36,252 like infrared and radio. 99 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:40,006 This is very, very narrow. 100 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:42,759 It happens to be the part we're interested in, 101 00:05:42,842 --> 00:05:46,721 because it's the part that we can actually detect. 102 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:50,308 So you can look at a lot more information 103 00:05:51,059 --> 00:05:54,562 about a star at the radio end of the spectrum 104 00:05:53,978 --> 00:05:57,524 than the very limited amount of information 105 00:05:57,607 --> 00:06:00,235 you get in the visual end of the spectrum. 106 00:06:00,902 --> 00:06:03,196 - [Narrator] Although radio waves from space 107 00:06:02,654 --> 00:06:06,199 were first detected in the early 1930s, 108 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:09,285 and the first radio telescope was built shortly thereafter, 109 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:12,580 worldwide interest in radio astronomy escalated 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,166 in the years following World War II. 111 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:17,377 The United States was eager to invest 112 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:19,254 in this new branch of science. 113 00:06:19,337 --> 00:06:20,964 - [Karen O'Neil] We were kind of in the space race. 114 00:06:20,505 --> 00:06:23,717 We were in this idea that our country 115 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,468 wanted to be the best in the world 116 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:27,220 in terms of science and engineering. 117 00:06:26,553 --> 00:06:29,723 We wanted to be out there and were willing to spend, 118 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:31,850 a lot of money, frankly, to do that. 119 00:06:31,182 --> 00:06:34,060 So we spent a lot of money, we got men on the moon, 120 00:06:34,144 --> 00:06:36,312 we built telescopes, we built a lot 121 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:39,399 of fundamental science facilities here in the country. 122 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:40,900 And that was fantastic, 123 00:06:40,984 --> 00:06:44,738 and that just led to so many advances. 124 00:06:44,112 --> 00:06:46,322 - [Michael Holstine] You know, after World War II 125 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:48,199 there was a lot of technological achievement, 126 00:06:48,283 --> 00:06:49,826 especially in electronics 127 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:52,704 and with radar coming on the scene and all of that. 128 00:06:52,203 --> 00:06:54,622 But, you know, the war took its toll 129 00:06:54,998 --> 00:06:57,751 on most of the nations. 130 00:06:57,417 --> 00:07:00,879 But for whatever reason, Europe, 131 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:03,965 especially England and Australia, 132 00:07:04,049 --> 00:07:07,052 really ramped up radio astronomy research. 133 00:07:07,135 --> 00:07:08,595 The United States didn't. 134 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:13,892 They kind of lagged behind until about mid-50s. 135 00:07:13,975 --> 00:07:15,935 Part of the reason was that instruments 136 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:19,022 to detect radio signals from space 137 00:07:18,688 --> 00:07:20,899 are just so expensive to build. 138 00:07:20,982 --> 00:07:24,361 A single university generally can't afford 139 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:27,614 to build what you'd need to build to be successful. 140 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:31,826 - [Narrator] As radio astronomy continued to evolve, 141 00:07:31,910 --> 00:07:33,953 a young professor of electrical engineering 142 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:35,789 at the Ohio State University 143 00:07:35,246 --> 00:07:38,541 observed its development with keen interest. 144 00:07:38,291 --> 00:07:41,127 His name was John Kraus. 145 00:07:42,420 --> 00:07:47,050 In the 1930s, Kraus followed scientist Karl Jansky's 146 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:49,052 historic discovery of radio noise 147 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:52,430 flowing from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. 148 00:07:52,514 --> 00:07:54,182 He was fascinated by the potential 149 00:07:54,265 --> 00:07:56,393 for using cosmic radio waves, 150 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:59,646 rather than visible light, to observe the universe. 151 00:08:00,939 --> 00:08:03,108 - [John] In 1930, essentially all that we knew 152 00:08:03,191 --> 00:08:04,734 about the heavens had come 153 00:08:04,234 --> 00:08:07,612 from what we could see or photograph. 154 00:08:07,696 --> 00:08:10,240 Karl Jansky changed all that. 155 00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:11,991 A universe of radio sounds 156 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:15,120 to which mankind had been deaf since time immemorial 157 00:08:14,577 --> 00:08:17,914 now suddenly burst forth in full chorus. 158 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:22,836 - [Narrator] During World War II, Kraus met Grote Reber, 159 00:08:22,293 --> 00:08:25,714 a radio engineer from Wheaton, Illinois. 160 00:08:25,171 --> 00:08:28,425 Reber had continued Karl Jansky's work, 161 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:31,177 scanning the Milky Way with a homemade receiver 162 00:08:30,552 --> 00:08:35,098 and a 30-foot dish antenna built in his backyard. 163 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:37,475 For a decade he was the world's only 164 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:39,310 active radio astronomer, 165 00:08:39,394 --> 00:08:42,605 producing the first maps of the radio sky. 166 00:08:42,105 --> 00:08:45,191 His antenna design was the forerunner 167 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:47,360 of modern radio telescopes. 168 00:08:47,902 --> 00:08:50,280 - [John] He told me about his equipment 169 00:08:49,904 --> 00:08:51,823 and observations of the Milky Way 170 00:08:51,906 --> 00:08:54,200 with a contagious enthusiasm. 171 00:08:54,284 --> 00:08:56,077 If we had not been at war, 172 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:57,579 I think I would have started building 173 00:08:57,287 --> 00:08:59,247 a radio telescope then. 174 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:02,167 But it was not until 10 years later, 175 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:04,336 at the Ohio State University, 176 00:09:04,419 --> 00:09:06,046 that I had a chance to do it. 177 00:09:07,922 --> 00:09:10,342 - [Narrator] When John Kraus joined the Ohio State faculty 178 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:14,554 in 1946, he invented the helical antenna. 179 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:16,806 The unique corkscrew-shaped design 180 00:09:16,348 --> 00:09:19,184 would ultimately find widespread use 181 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:20,518 in satellite communication. 182 00:09:21,895 --> 00:09:25,774 In 1952, Kraus utilized the new antenna design 183 00:09:25,857 --> 00:09:28,693 to build his first radio telescope. 184 00:09:28,234 --> 00:09:30,904 With the help of Ohio State students, 185 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:33,073 he constructed a 50-meter array 186 00:09:33,156 --> 00:09:36,368 of helical antennas on university farmland. 187 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:39,454 While a sky survey conducted with the helix array 188 00:09:38,995 --> 00:09:42,207 proved successful, Kraus realized 189 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:44,959 that a much bigger telescope was needed. 190 00:09:45,043 --> 00:09:47,253 Within a few years, he was ready to build 191 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,255 the massive radio telescope 192 00:09:49,339 --> 00:09:52,467 that would ultimately capture the Wow! signal. 193 00:09:53,134 --> 00:09:55,303 - He had grand plans of making 194 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:58,390 the telescope 2,000 feet wide. 195 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:01,685 Money for that was not forthcoming, 196 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:04,646 so I saw at one point he had reduced that 197 00:10:04,062 --> 00:10:09,067 to 720 feet wide, money was not forthcoming, 198 00:10:08,692 --> 00:10:12,529 so he reduced it to 360 feet wide 199 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:14,447 for the paraboloid. 200 00:10:15,323 --> 00:10:19,911 - [Narrator] In 1956, John Kraus negotiated an agreement 201 00:10:19,577 --> 00:10:22,330 to utilize a 20-acre site owned 202 00:10:21,996 --> 00:10:24,958 by Ohio Wesleyan University. 203 00:10:25,041 --> 00:10:26,418 The property was dedicated for 204 00:10:26,501 --> 00:10:28,628 the construction and operation 205 00:10:28,712 --> 00:10:32,132 of the Ohio State University Radio Observatory. 206 00:10:32,215 --> 00:10:35,260 This large radio telescope, designed to listen 207 00:10:35,343 --> 00:10:37,053 for signals in deep space, 208 00:10:36,553 --> 00:10:40,181 was appropriately nicknamed the Big Ear. 209 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:44,060 With a grant from the National Science Foundation, 210 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:48,732 Kraus began construction on the Big Ear in late 1956. 211 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:51,192 Under his supervision, university students 212 00:10:51,276 --> 00:10:53,570 did much of the construction work. 213 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:57,157 Ultimately, the process took five years. 214 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,326 - When John Kraus got the money to build the place 215 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:02,287 he didn't have very much money, 216 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:07,459 so between 1956 and 1963 they constructed 217 00:11:08,918 --> 00:11:12,672 this gigantic thing, as big as three football fields, 218 00:11:13,214 --> 00:11:16,176 with the use mostly of volunteer helpers 219 00:11:16,259 --> 00:11:19,304 and graduate students, so it took a long time. 220 00:11:19,387 --> 00:11:22,766 - [Robert Dixon] The design of Big Ear was intended 221 00:11:22,223 --> 00:11:24,476 to make it the most sensitive telescope 222 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,811 for the least amount of money. 223 00:11:26,144 --> 00:11:30,231 And it was John Kraus' original design that did that. 224 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:32,817 - [Jerry Ehman] There's only one other telescope in the world 225 00:11:32,901 --> 00:11:34,319 that was built like it 226 00:11:33,777 --> 00:11:37,822 and that was in France, Nancay, France. 227 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,366 - [Robert Dixon] And if you can imagine here, 228 00:11:38,907 --> 00:11:42,369 a large flat surface of aluminum foil 229 00:11:42,452 --> 00:11:44,287 three acres in extent. 230 00:11:43,745 --> 00:11:48,166 At one ends was a curved parabolic reflector 231 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:50,001 standing on the ground. 232 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:53,254 On the other end was a flat surface, 233 00:11:53,004 --> 00:11:54,756 tilted up like this, 234 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:57,008 which could be tilted up and down. 235 00:11:57,092 --> 00:11:58,635 And out in the middle of the ground plain 236 00:11:58,718 --> 00:12:00,303 there was some things that we call feed horns 237 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:02,180 that look like scoops, 238 00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:04,140 which were pointed toward the parabolic part, 239 00:12:03,682 --> 00:12:06,059 and they scooped up the radio waves. 240 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:08,144 Signals came down from the sky, 241 00:12:07,686 --> 00:12:10,063 they bounced off this flat reflector, 242 00:12:10,146 --> 00:12:13,900 traveled horizontally across this big field of aluminum 243 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:15,568 to the parabolic reflector. 244 00:12:15,652 --> 00:12:18,446 Which focused them down to these scoop-like horns 245 00:12:18,530 --> 00:12:20,740 sitting in the middle of the ground plain. 246 00:12:21,032 --> 00:12:24,160 - [Narrator] Unlike today's parabolic dish antennas, 247 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,746 the Big Ear could not be electronically controlled 248 00:12:26,830 --> 00:12:28,832 to pan the sky on demand. 249 00:12:28,206 --> 00:12:32,335 Rather, it depended on the rotation of the Earth. 250 00:12:32,419 --> 00:12:35,672 - [Robert Dixon] The telescope could not steer in the left-right direction. 251 00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:38,883 You could only steer in the up and down direction. 252 00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:42,721 But that's okay, because we can center a certain angle 253 00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:44,806 and then allow the Earth to turn. 254 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:47,225 And as the Earth turned, then the beam was swept up, 255 00:12:47,308 --> 00:12:49,227 a little strip all around the whole sky 256 00:12:48,893 --> 00:12:51,896 in 24 hours as the Earth turned. 257 00:12:51,396 --> 00:12:53,356 And we'd sit there for a couple days 258 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,608 and then we'd change the angle slightly 259 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:57,110 and cover another little stripe 260 00:12:57,193 --> 00:12:58,945 all around the whole sky like that. 261 00:12:58,361 --> 00:13:01,448 So in that way we could cover the whole sky. 262 00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:08,288 - [Narrator] When completed in the early 1960s, 263 00:13:08,371 --> 00:13:09,873 the Big Ear was one of the world's 264 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,208 largest radio telescopes. 265 00:13:11,541 --> 00:13:15,628 It was designed to be a versatile survey instrument, 266 00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:20,008 capable of observing large sections of the radio sky. 267 00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:21,426 - [Tom Burns] When it was finally built, 268 00:13:21,843 --> 00:13:26,681 using its old computer with 16K of memory 269 00:13:26,765 --> 00:13:28,266 to help collect the data, 270 00:13:28,350 --> 00:13:30,560 they managed for the next 10 years 271 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:34,481 to do a map of the entire visible sky. 272 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:39,444 - [Robert Dixon] I came here in 1963 as a graduate student 273 00:13:39,527 --> 00:13:41,821 working for Professor John Kraus. 274 00:13:41,237 --> 00:13:44,407 I was placed in charge of analyzing the data 275 00:13:44,074 --> 00:13:46,076 coming from our radio telescope, 276 00:13:45,742 --> 00:13:48,244 which had just gone on the air. 277 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,955 We were looking for natural sources of radio signals, 278 00:13:50,705 --> 00:13:53,208 not intelligent sources. 279 00:13:53,291 --> 00:13:55,043 That's why the telescope was built. 280 00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:59,255 This was in the early days of radio astronomy. 281 00:13:58,713 --> 00:14:01,466 When we were just really getting established 282 00:14:01,216 --> 00:14:03,468 as a mainstream science. 283 00:14:04,594 --> 00:14:06,638 And there have not been any big survey 284 00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:08,223 of the entire sky to discover 285 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:10,266 all the radio signals that were there. 286 00:14:11,309 --> 00:14:14,229 People had used dish antennas. 287 00:14:13,895 --> 00:14:15,689 They've used antennas like that 288 00:14:15,772 --> 00:14:18,566 to look at certain stars, certain galaxies, 289 00:14:18,650 --> 00:14:20,902 and study them in detail. 290 00:14:20,985 --> 00:14:24,155 But nobody had searched the whole sky. 291 00:14:24,239 --> 00:14:26,991 So we were like the pioneer explorers. 292 00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:30,203 And we created this huge catalog of 20,000 objects 293 00:14:30,286 --> 00:14:32,122 and we published huge maps 294 00:14:31,413 --> 00:14:35,375 showing what the sky looked like to the radio telescope. 295 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:39,671 - They discovered objects like quasars 296 00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:43,216 and observed them, which at the time 297 00:14:43,299 --> 00:14:45,719 were the most distant objects 298 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:49,097 ever observed by any telescope. 299 00:14:49,180 --> 00:14:51,266 One of the quasars, for instance, 300 00:14:51,349 --> 00:14:54,227 was about 12 billion light years away, 301 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:59,107 which we now know is considerably far back, 302 00:14:58,815 --> 00:15:01,276 almost to the beginning 303 00:15:00,692 --> 00:15:04,404 of the creation of the universe in the Big Bang. 304 00:15:05,488 --> 00:15:09,367 - They discovered 20,000 radio sources. 305 00:15:09,451 --> 00:15:11,870 Only 10,000 were known at the time. 306 00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:15,707 So it was a big deal, 307 00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:17,083 a big contribution to 308 00:15:17,167 --> 00:15:19,127 what was known in radio astronomy. 309 00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:25,050 - You guys want to go down to the scope? 310 00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:26,092 - [Deana] Yeah, we going up? 311 00:15:25,842 --> 00:15:27,552 - Yeah, you want to. 312 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:29,721 - I guess. 313 00:15:28,845 --> 00:15:32,098 I've got the right shoes. - [Michael Holstine] Your shoes are all right? 314 00:15:32,182 --> 00:15:36,478 Y'all can all ride in the back. (chuckles) 315 00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:39,898 (truck engine revving) 316 00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:42,525 (gentle music) 317 00:15:52,369 --> 00:15:54,371 - [Woman 2] Why do we search for E.T.? 318 00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:58,249 Ever since the beginning of human history 319 00:15:57,665 --> 00:16:02,379 we've always looked out to what's out there. 320 00:16:07,884 --> 00:16:12,722 - [Michael Holstine] The Green Bank Observatory is important to this area. 321 00:16:12,806 --> 00:16:14,474 It's one of the premier science facilities 322 00:16:14,557 --> 00:16:16,267 in the state of West Virginia. 323 00:16:17,018 --> 00:16:19,479 And as far as radio astronomy goes, 324 00:16:18,812 --> 00:16:23,066 it's one of the premier observatories in the world. 325 00:16:24,526 --> 00:16:25,985 You know, it's a treasure. 326 00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:34,828 - [Narrator] Nestled deep in the hills of West Virginia, 327 00:16:34,911 --> 00:16:37,038 the Green Bank Observatory is home 328 00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:41,251 to the world's largest, fully steerable radio telescope. 329 00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:43,712 The site hosts eight radio telescopes 330 00:16:43,795 --> 00:16:47,173 and more than 60 years of scientific discovery. 331 00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:50,176 Like the Big Ear telescope in Ohio, 332 00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:54,472 the Green Bank story began in the late 1950s. 333 00:16:54,556 --> 00:16:57,767 America's interest in radio astronomy was growing. 334 00:16:57,183 --> 00:17:00,103 The Green Bank site was chosen for building 335 00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:03,648 the first National Radio Astronomy Observatory 336 00:17:03,732 --> 00:17:05,233 in the United States. 337 00:17:06,151 --> 00:17:07,819 - [Karen O'Neil] If you look back historically, 338 00:17:07,902 --> 00:17:10,321 coming out of World War II in particular, 339 00:17:10,405 --> 00:17:13,074 there was a lot of interest in radio waves 340 00:17:13,158 --> 00:17:16,369 and radio technology, and of course the beginnings 341 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,079 of radio astronomy got started. 342 00:17:18,163 --> 00:17:19,831 So people started listening to the cosmos, 343 00:17:19,914 --> 00:17:21,499 listening to the sky. 344 00:17:21,583 --> 00:17:24,294 And if you move forward up into the 1950s, 345 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,838 late 1950s by then, you had, 346 00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:29,132 radio astronomy was an actual science. 347 00:17:28,757 --> 00:17:30,467 There was places around the world 348 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:32,969 that were studying radio astronomy. 349 00:17:33,053 --> 00:17:35,055 Certainly if you look over to Europe and Asia, 350 00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:37,390 Russia was already building significant 351 00:17:37,474 --> 00:17:39,059 radio telescopes at the time. 352 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,435 The Netherlands was already building 353 00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:42,270 significant radio telescopes. 354 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:44,481 And other countries were starting to look at it. 355 00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:47,567 Within this country, although radio astronomy 356 00:17:47,025 --> 00:17:50,195 was acknowledged as a field of science, 357 00:17:49,652 --> 00:17:54,199 there wasn't any significant radio telescope 358 00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:55,825 that the astronomers could use. 359 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:58,244 Instead there was a lot of fantastic instruments, 360 00:17:57,702 --> 00:17:59,996 but kind of built in people's backyards, 361 00:17:59,662 --> 00:18:02,248 built in people's laboratories. 362 00:18:01,623 --> 00:18:05,669 - So in 1956, they started searching for a place 363 00:18:05,043 --> 00:18:10,548 to put this new National Radio Astronomy Observatory. 364 00:18:11,007 --> 00:18:13,051 And there were a lot of criteria. 365 00:18:12,467 --> 00:18:16,096 I mean, radio astronomy's a very sensitive science. 366 00:18:16,179 --> 00:18:17,305 The signals are very weak. 367 00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:19,516 So you had to look for a place 368 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:21,601 that didn't have a lot of people. 369 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,311 You know, people are noisy. 370 00:18:23,395 --> 00:18:26,064 And they build things that are noisy. 371 00:18:26,147 --> 00:18:28,400 Especially in the radio spectrum. 372 00:18:27,941 --> 00:18:31,361 So they wanted a low population area. 373 00:18:30,819 --> 00:18:33,822 They wanted it to be free of things like 374 00:18:33,905 --> 00:18:36,199 overhead high-tension power lines, 375 00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:39,327 because those things can create noise. 376 00:18:38,993 --> 00:18:42,831 And several other criteria that, 377 00:18:42,372 --> 00:18:45,834 scientific staff sort of short listed 378 00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:49,421 to about 29 sites up and down the east coast. 379 00:18:48,837 --> 00:18:52,465 And it turned out that Green Bank, West Virginia 380 00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:56,469 was the ideal, or most ideal, place. 381 00:18:55,885 --> 00:19:01,641 So in 1957 the Green Bank site was dedicated 382 00:19:02,684 --> 00:19:04,310 and we started building telescopes. 383 00:19:06,271 --> 00:19:08,356 - [Narrator] As telescopes began to rise 384 00:19:07,772 --> 00:19:10,942 from the ground up, the advantages of having 385 00:19:11,026 --> 00:19:13,319 a National Radio Astronomy Observatory 386 00:19:13,403 --> 00:19:17,157 in rural West Virginia quickly became apparent. 387 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,493 Green Bank soon attracted professional radio astronomers, 388 00:19:19,784 --> 00:19:24,080 including those interested in a new subset of astronomy, 389 00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:27,542 the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, 390 00:19:27,292 --> 00:19:30,170 also known as SETI. 391 00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:32,297 - The reason a lot of astronomers came here 392 00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:34,799 in the early years of NRAO 393 00:19:35,175 --> 00:19:37,594 is, first of all we were building 394 00:19:37,677 --> 00:19:40,680 the biggest and the best instruments in the world. 395 00:19:40,764 --> 00:19:44,184 And we were pushing the boundaries of what we knew 396 00:19:44,267 --> 00:19:46,186 radio telescope's could accomplish 397 00:19:46,269 --> 00:19:49,147 and radio receivers could accomplish. 398 00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:52,067 - [Karen O'Neil] One of the best things that happened 399 00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:54,694 when the idea of a National Radio Astronomy Observatory 400 00:19:54,361 --> 00:19:58,198 was first decided, was this idea 401 00:19:58,281 --> 00:20:00,075 of radio quiet zones. 402 00:19:59,741 --> 00:20:02,160 So now you have a piece of land 403 00:20:01,576 --> 00:20:04,746 that's beginning to build a lot of radio telescopes 404 00:20:04,829 --> 00:20:07,457 and you have legal guarantees around it 405 00:20:06,915 --> 00:20:09,250 that you're not gonna see a lot of noise 406 00:20:08,917 --> 00:20:10,543 like you would anywhere else 407 00:20:10,627 --> 00:20:12,253 that might build a radio telescope. 408 00:20:12,337 --> 00:20:14,089 As soon as you have those two pieces, 409 00:20:13,588 --> 00:20:16,549 you have a very obvious location to come 410 00:20:16,633 --> 00:20:19,386 if you want to go look for weird signals, frankly. 411 00:20:18,968 --> 00:20:21,012 You don't want to do that someplace 412 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:22,472 where there might be a lot of other noise 413 00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:24,099 you have to find it through. 414 00:20:23,848 --> 00:20:25,642 And so the existence 415 00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:27,310 of a National Radio Astronomy Observatory 416 00:20:26,685 --> 00:20:31,106 combined with the radio quiet zones around here 417 00:20:30,605 --> 00:20:32,565 made this a perfect place for a lot 418 00:20:32,649 --> 00:20:34,150 of radio astronomers to come, 419 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,652 including Frank Drake and many of the other 420 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:37,904 pioneers of radio astronomy in this country. 421 00:20:38,947 --> 00:20:42,075 - [Narrator] Dr. Frank Drake, a radio astronomer 422 00:20:42,158 --> 00:20:44,494 regarded as the father of modern SETI, 423 00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:48,665 was a young staff astronomer at Green Bank in 1960. 424 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:52,210 He devised an experiment using interstellar radio waves 425 00:20:51,376 --> 00:20:56,214 to search for signs of intelligent life on distant planets. 426 00:20:55,755 --> 00:21:00,135 Drake called his experiment Project Ozma. 427 00:21:00,218 --> 00:21:04,014 Conducted with one of Green Bank's 85-foot telescopes, 428 00:21:04,097 --> 00:21:06,057 it was the first modern search 429 00:21:06,141 --> 00:21:09,227 for extraterrestrial intelligence. 430 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:12,272 - It was an experiment to literally go out and listen. 431 00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:14,691 Let's go see if we can find 432 00:21:14,065 --> 00:21:17,736 signals from another intelligent life out there. 433 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:19,988 So it's in this particular case, 434 00:21:20,071 --> 00:21:22,073 Project Ozma was using radio waves, 435 00:21:21,489 --> 00:21:24,909 so the same type of technology we use today 436 00:21:24,993 --> 00:21:26,703 with the Breakthrough Listen project. 437 00:21:26,161 --> 00:21:29,247 Frank had to spend many, many hours per star 438 00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:31,541 to just look, to get the level of sensitivity 439 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:34,210 he thought he would need in order to see a signal. 440 00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:36,087 He pieced all that together to just see 441 00:21:35,837 --> 00:21:37,630 for the first time ever, 442 00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:39,341 let's just go take a measurement 443 00:21:39,424 --> 00:21:42,260 in the very scientific manner to see if we can see 444 00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,137 a signal from alien life. 445 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:45,764 Obviously he didn't see anything. 446 00:21:45,847 --> 00:21:47,182 If he did, this would be a very different 447 00:21:47,265 --> 00:21:48,558 conversation we're having. 448 00:21:58,568 --> 00:22:00,779 - [Ellie White] So this is the Drake Lounge, 449 00:22:00,862 --> 00:22:03,823 you can see it's furnished 1960s decor all the way. 450 00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:07,786 All the original furnishings and decorations. 451 00:22:07,118 --> 00:22:11,414 So it looks basically exactly as it did back in 1960 452 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:13,333 when Frank Drake and all his colleagues gathered here 453 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:16,711 to discuss the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. 454 00:22:16,044 --> 00:22:18,922 Frank Drake was not the only famous scientist here, 455 00:22:18,588 --> 00:22:20,215 there were famous scientists 456 00:22:20,298 --> 00:22:22,300 from Carl Sagan to Philip Morrison. 457 00:22:22,384 --> 00:22:24,636 So the fun thing we always try and do 458 00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:27,222 is say, "Hey, which chair did Carl Sagan sit in?" 459 00:22:27,305 --> 00:22:30,600 So it's sort of neat history about this place. 460 00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:36,064 - [Narrator] In 1961, following his experience 461 00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:38,942 with Project Ozma, Frank Drake organized 462 00:22:39,025 --> 00:22:41,569 a meeting at Green Bank to discuss the possibility 463 00:22:41,653 --> 00:22:45,031 of searching for intelligent extraterrestrial life. 464 00:22:44,698 --> 00:22:46,741 In preparation for this meeting 465 00:22:46,825 --> 00:22:49,494 he created an equation that laid the groundwork 466 00:22:48,785 --> 00:22:54,332 for a meaningful scientific dialogue about finding E.T. 467 00:22:54,416 --> 00:22:57,335 It became known as the Drake Equation. 468 00:22:57,961 --> 00:23:00,130 - [Ellie White] At that time there were very few people in the world 469 00:23:00,213 --> 00:23:01,506 who were interested in the search 470 00:23:01,589 --> 00:23:03,174 for extraterrestrial intelligence. 471 00:23:02,716 --> 00:23:04,884 So Frank Drake being one of them, 472 00:23:04,968 --> 00:23:08,096 he started thinking about what are all the factors 473 00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:11,433 that influence the probability of life elsewhere. 474 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:13,059 So he was starting to think about things 475 00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:16,312 like star formation and exoplanets per star, 476 00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:17,814 and things like that. 477 00:23:17,272 --> 00:23:20,233 So he thought, "Well, this actually fits 478 00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:22,819 "into the form of an equation." 479 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,696 - [Karen O'Neil] He just started writing these factors down 480 00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:26,197 and saying, "This is what it's gonna take." 481 00:23:25,739 --> 00:23:27,782 We have to know, well we have to know 482 00:23:27,198 --> 00:23:29,868 a whole lot of things, but we have to know about 483 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:31,286 how many planets are there out there 484 00:23:31,369 --> 00:23:33,079 in the universe, for example. 485 00:23:33,163 --> 00:23:35,373 Of those planets, how many could actually sustain life? 486 00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:38,835 And you have to piece all of these factors together 487 00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:40,503 and it makes an equation. 488 00:23:39,878 --> 00:23:43,381 An absolutely beautiful and fairly timeless equation 489 00:23:43,048 --> 00:23:45,800 which is the Drake Equation. 490 00:23:45,258 --> 00:23:48,261 What's been amazing about the Drake Equation 491 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:50,138 is certainly you can take a look at it now, 492 00:23:49,846 --> 00:23:51,806 many, many years later, 493 00:23:51,222 --> 00:23:54,517 it's really still the equation that you need 494 00:23:54,267 --> 00:23:55,935 in order to look and say 495 00:23:55,435 --> 00:23:58,146 what is the probability of finding this? 496 00:23:58,229 --> 00:24:02,275 - [Ellie White] L is the lifetime of a communicating civilization. 497 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:04,110 We only have one example of such 498 00:24:03,526 --> 00:24:06,529 a communicating civilization, and that's us. 499 00:24:07,572 --> 00:24:12,327 So people try and estimate how long do you think 500 00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:14,496 a civilization like ourselves would last. 501 00:24:14,579 --> 00:24:17,665 Would it last 50 years, 100 years, 500 years, 502 00:24:17,749 --> 00:24:20,543 a million years, you know that sort of determines 503 00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:22,837 how many civilizations you're going to detect. 504 00:24:22,337 --> 00:24:24,339 Because the longer they're out there 505 00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:26,216 the longer they're communicating 506 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:28,635 and the more likely it is that you'll detect their signals. 507 00:24:28,718 --> 00:24:30,887 (gentle music) 508 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:34,933 - [Michael Holstine] What Frank did was consider a way 509 00:24:34,432 --> 00:24:39,771 to theorize the potential for the existence 510 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:43,566 of an extraterrestrial civilization. 511 00:24:42,941 --> 00:24:46,444 A lot of his numbers, a lot of his assumptions, 512 00:24:45,944 --> 00:24:48,488 we're sort of proving were correct, 513 00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:50,949 or very close to being correct. 514 00:24:51,032 --> 00:24:54,703 So that narrows the guesstimate factor 515 00:24:54,786 --> 00:24:59,249 down to a more knowing true figure. 516 00:25:00,625 --> 00:25:04,212 You're still talking about 100,000 potential sites 517 00:25:04,295 --> 00:25:08,091 that you have to look at in this huge galaxy. 518 00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:10,468 Still becomes a daunting task. 519 00:25:11,052 --> 00:25:15,181 - [Nichol Cunningham] SETI's always been about good science. 520 00:25:15,265 --> 00:25:16,349 They have to make assumptions 521 00:25:16,016 --> 00:25:18,476 about what they're looking for. 522 00:25:17,851 --> 00:25:22,230 That's, you know, a really difficult thing to do 523 00:25:21,688 --> 00:25:24,858 when you don't know what you're looking for. 524 00:25:24,524 --> 00:25:27,193 They've always been trying to do 525 00:25:26,609 --> 00:25:30,196 the best science they can with the equipment 526 00:25:29,654 --> 00:25:33,241 and telescopes and things that they have. 527 00:25:36,244 --> 00:25:37,579 - [Karen O'Neil] SETI is such an integral part 528 00:25:37,078 --> 00:25:39,998 of the history of Green Bank Observatory 529 00:25:40,081 --> 00:25:42,834 that you can't come here as an astronomer 530 00:25:42,292 --> 00:25:44,919 and spend any time and not start hearing 531 00:25:45,003 --> 00:25:47,589 not just about what's happened here on site with SETI, 532 00:25:47,047 --> 00:25:49,632 but also what's happened just around the country 533 00:25:49,299 --> 00:25:51,217 and around the world with SETI. 534 00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:53,136 Including things like the Big Ear telescope, 535 00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:54,888 Wow! signal, and all of those types 536 00:25:54,554 --> 00:25:56,473 of studies that have been done. 537 00:25:57,182 --> 00:26:01,269 (lawn mower engine humming) 538 00:26:11,237 --> 00:26:14,949 - [Tom Burns] This would be some of the radio equipment 539 00:26:15,033 --> 00:26:18,286 that they use to modulate the data, 540 00:26:18,370 --> 00:26:20,205 to collect that data. 541 00:26:20,288 --> 00:26:24,167 With a radio, essentially what we might call a radio, 542 00:26:23,667 --> 00:26:27,128 except that it monitors many frequencies 543 00:26:26,711 --> 00:26:30,674 at the same time, and just for fun, 544 00:26:30,757 --> 00:26:33,593 if you wanna modulate some of that information 545 00:26:32,967 --> 00:26:36,346 and put it on a screen, you can use an oscilloscope. 546 00:26:35,679 --> 00:26:39,516 That's why old science fiction movies look so great, 547 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:42,060 because they have those oscilloscopes running. 548 00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:48,066 - [Narrator] From 1963 until the early 1970s, 549 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,111 Ohio State's Big Ear telescope conducted a survey 550 00:26:51,194 --> 00:26:54,698 that covered 70% of the entire sky. 551 00:26:54,155 --> 00:26:57,992 Their comprehensive Ohio All Sky Survey 552 00:26:57,492 --> 00:27:00,495 produced detailed maps of the radio sky 553 00:27:00,578 --> 00:27:03,998 that proved useful to astronomers throughout the world. 554 00:27:04,541 --> 00:27:08,128 But by 1972, budget shortages forced 555 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:10,130 the National Science Foundation 556 00:27:09,671 --> 00:27:12,340 to terminate funding for the Big Ear. 557 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,302 That decision closed one highly successful chapter 558 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,723 in the Big Ear's history, and began another. 559 00:27:20,724 --> 00:27:23,059 - [Robert Gray] In the early 70s they ran out of money. 560 00:27:23,143 --> 00:27:27,647 The National Science Foundation stopped funding them. 561 00:27:29,357 --> 00:27:32,944 New areas of astronomy and new telescopes were being built 562 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:36,823 and that's when Bob Dixon put in a new receiver, 563 00:27:36,281 --> 00:27:39,451 better suited to finding the narrow band signals 564 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:42,245 that people think might be out there 565 00:27:43,371 --> 00:27:46,458 if other civilizations are broadcasting at us. 566 00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:51,087 - [Narrator] In 1971, Bob Dixon attended 567 00:27:50,545 --> 00:27:54,049 a large gathering of scientists and engineers 568 00:27:53,298 --> 00:27:58,136 at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California. 569 00:27:57,552 --> 00:28:00,555 The group shared ideas about the possibility 570 00:28:00,638 --> 00:28:04,893 of detecting signals from extraterrestrial civilizations. 571 00:28:04,976 --> 00:28:06,311 Their findings were published 572 00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:09,564 in a report titled "Project Cyclops". 573 00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:12,567 The goal of Cyclops was to assess what it would take 574 00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:15,195 to mount a large search for radio signals 575 00:28:14,861 --> 00:28:18,073 from interstellar civilizations. 576 00:28:18,156 --> 00:28:20,116 Widely circulated by NASA, 577 00:28:19,574 --> 00:28:23,203 the final Cyclops report strongly influenced 578 00:28:23,286 --> 00:28:25,205 the development of a SETI program 579 00:28:24,746 --> 00:28:27,791 at the Big Ear Radio Observatory. 580 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:31,294 - [Robert Dixon] I became very interested in SETI at the time. 581 00:28:32,587 --> 00:28:36,174 Finding for the radio observatory nationally was lost. 582 00:28:36,257 --> 00:28:39,678 We realized we have a wonderful radio telescope here, 583 00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:42,138 and this would be a wonderful purpose to put it toward 584 00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:44,599 as the first large telescope dedicated 585 00:28:44,683 --> 00:28:47,394 to searching for extraterrestrial life. 586 00:28:46,851 --> 00:28:49,479 We have a perfectly good staff of people 587 00:28:49,562 --> 00:28:51,022 who would be willing to volunteer, 588 00:28:50,647 --> 00:28:53,149 and we attracted more volunteers. 589 00:28:52,816 --> 00:28:55,151 - I was actually a volunteer 590 00:28:55,235 --> 00:28:58,196 at the Ohio State University radio observatory. 591 00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:01,324 My job was as a radio astronomer. 592 00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:05,120 Specifically looking at the computer printouts 593 00:29:05,203 --> 00:29:07,664 from the radio telescope. 594 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,000 - So we had the equipment and we had the people. 595 00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:11,960 And we reconfigured some things 596 00:29:11,668 --> 00:29:14,170 and we put it together. 597 00:29:13,837 --> 00:29:15,505 And we started that search. 598 00:29:16,047 --> 00:29:18,466 - [Narrator] Unlike the All Sky Survey, 599 00:29:17,924 --> 00:29:21,011 which had utilized wide band radio waves 600 00:29:21,094 --> 00:29:23,388 to search for naturally occurring signals, 601 00:29:23,013 --> 00:29:25,849 the Big Ear SETI program demanded 602 00:29:25,932 --> 00:29:28,351 a much more narrow focus. 603 00:29:28,435 --> 00:29:30,854 - Natural signals, they sound the same 604 00:29:30,395 --> 00:29:32,689 no matter where you tune your radio. 605 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:34,482 If you had like your AM radio, 606 00:29:34,566 --> 00:29:37,068 it would sound the same hissing sound no matter what. 607 00:29:37,152 --> 00:29:40,447 On the other hand, an intelligent signal, we believe, 608 00:29:39,863 --> 00:29:43,283 would be tuned in only at one point on the dial. 609 00:29:42,574 --> 00:29:46,411 And that's what we're looking for, a narrow band signal. 610 00:29:45,910 --> 00:29:48,163 Narrow band signals are artificial. 611 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:49,789 There are not very many things in nature 612 00:29:49,873 --> 00:29:51,499 that make narrow band signals. 613 00:29:52,834 --> 00:29:54,669 - [Narrator] The Big Ear SETI program 614 00:29:54,377 --> 00:29:58,131 began in December 1973. 615 00:29:58,214 --> 00:30:01,593 With no external funding and a volunteer staff, 616 00:30:01,009 --> 00:30:05,305 the program and equipment were set up to operate 617 00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:07,891 with as few people as possible. 618 00:30:07,974 --> 00:30:10,685 In just a few years, the Big Ear would make 619 00:30:10,769 --> 00:30:12,896 one of the most intriguing discoveries 620 00:30:12,228 --> 00:30:16,858 in the search for intelligent extraterrestrial life. 621 00:30:16,941 --> 00:30:19,903 A signal that continues to fascinate. 622 00:30:20,653 --> 00:30:24,157 (suspenseful music) 623 00:30:41,132 --> 00:30:44,052 (static crackling) 624 00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:51,976 (printer clicking) 625 00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:03,071 (suspenseful music) 626 00:31:03,154 --> 00:31:05,990 - [Robert Gray] From what I've been told, 627 00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:09,160 the Wow! signal was a signal that came in, 628 00:31:09,244 --> 00:31:12,247 lasted for 72 seconds. 629 00:31:11,579 --> 00:31:17,419 And it looks to me like a radio source, like a real one. 630 00:31:19,838 --> 00:31:23,341 - [Narrator] On the evening of August 15th, 1977, 631 00:31:23,425 --> 00:31:25,260 the Big Ear telescope was engaged 632 00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:27,470 in its on-going mission, 633 00:31:27,554 --> 00:31:30,348 the search for narrow band radio signals. 634 00:31:31,808 --> 00:31:35,145 With its flat reflector set at a predetermined angle, 635 00:31:35,228 --> 00:31:37,981 the Big Ear's beam rotated with the Earth, 636 00:31:37,272 --> 00:31:42,193 patiently scanning a continuous strip of the night sky. 637 00:31:42,277 --> 00:31:44,237 Incoming radio waves were automatically 638 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,114 processed by computer. 639 00:31:46,197 --> 00:31:49,242 Computer printouts provided a chronological record 640 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:52,829 of the alphanumeric date for later analysis. 641 00:31:52,912 --> 00:31:56,791 - [Jerry Ehman] When we set up the receivers and the computers, 642 00:31:56,875 --> 00:32:00,253 we did it with a purpose of not having to have 643 00:31:59,794 --> 00:32:03,840 a large group of people maneuver data 644 00:32:03,923 --> 00:32:05,550 and do various things, 645 00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:10,305 because that was time consuming, costly, and so forth. 646 00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:14,309 We built everything into the receiver and the computer 647 00:32:14,392 --> 00:32:16,978 to do things on their own. 648 00:32:17,312 --> 00:32:21,149 - [Robert Dixon] We had, at that time, a 50 channel receiver. 649 00:32:21,232 --> 00:32:23,234 So we have 50 different receivers. 650 00:32:23,318 --> 00:32:26,237 You can imagine having 50 radios sitting on your counter, 651 00:32:25,612 --> 00:32:29,282 each one tuned to a slightly different frequency. 652 00:32:29,366 --> 00:32:30,950 And the output of all those 50 653 00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:33,411 was going into the computer we had at the time. 654 00:32:33,495 --> 00:32:36,081 And we had written programs to record, carefully, 655 00:32:36,164 --> 00:32:38,124 each of those 50 signals. 656 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:39,793 And the intensity of each of those 657 00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:42,420 was then printed out on a sheet of paper. 658 00:32:42,504 --> 00:32:45,215 Channels one through 50 running across the paper. 659 00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:49,386 - [Narrator] Shortly after 11 p.m., the Big Ear 660 00:32:48,843 --> 00:32:51,930 registered a signal many times stronger 661 00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:54,766 than the normal levels of radio noise. 662 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:59,104 The signal lasted for 72 seconds, rising and falling 663 00:32:58,561 --> 00:33:02,107 as it passed through the Big Ear's beam. 664 00:33:01,564 --> 00:33:04,567 No one was present to witness the event, 665 00:33:04,234 --> 00:33:06,277 but the computer system recorded 666 00:33:06,361 --> 00:33:08,988 the sudden escalation in signal strength. 667 00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:10,865 And the data printout clearly showed 668 00:33:10,949 --> 00:33:13,243 the tremendous spike in intensity. 669 00:33:14,244 --> 00:33:17,580 The moment passed, and Big Ear continued 670 00:33:17,664 --> 00:33:19,916 scanning the sky throughout the night. 671 00:33:21,376 --> 00:33:23,962 - There's nobody there, typically, to look at it. 672 00:33:23,503 --> 00:33:26,089 And then at that time, the computer, 673 00:33:25,755 --> 00:33:27,382 after it printed everything out, 674 00:33:27,465 --> 00:33:28,883 would be taken off to Jerry's house 675 00:33:28,341 --> 00:33:30,427 and he'd look at it, and he'd look through it 676 00:33:30,093 --> 00:33:32,262 and see what he could find. 677 00:33:31,553 --> 00:33:35,932 - [Jerry Ehman] Computer records were delivered to my home every, 678 00:33:36,016 --> 00:33:37,809 oh about two times a week. 679 00:33:37,475 --> 00:33:39,436 A printout that contained three 680 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,813 or four days worth of observations. 681 00:33:42,647 --> 00:33:44,858 - [Tom Burns] What you get when you're looking at data 682 00:33:44,315 --> 00:33:48,361 from a radio telescope is just a big ream 683 00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:50,780 of paper with numbers on it 684 00:33:50,864 --> 00:33:55,952 representing what the signals were at various frequencies. 685 00:33:56,077 --> 00:34:00,081 - [Jerry Ehman] When I would get home from teaching, 686 00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:02,167 or at night after supper, 687 00:34:01,583 --> 00:34:05,295 I would sit down with the computer printout 688 00:34:04,711 --> 00:34:08,465 and start to look for anything interesting. 689 00:34:10,175 --> 00:34:14,137 The data that included August 15, 1977, 690 00:34:13,803 --> 00:34:17,223 and two or three days past that. 691 00:34:17,307 --> 00:34:20,143 Just a few pages into that 692 00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:23,480 I saw the pattern 6EQUJ5. 693 00:34:24,397 --> 00:34:28,693 And I saw, okay the numbers are increasing, 694 00:34:28,777 --> 00:34:30,987 hitting a peak, and then dropping off. 695 00:34:31,071 --> 00:34:32,572 That's exactly what we expect 696 00:34:32,238 --> 00:34:34,532 for a strong narrow band signal. 697 00:34:35,408 --> 00:34:38,787 - [Narrator] Since its discovery, there has been a popular 698 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:42,207 notion that the Wow! signal can somehow be decoded. 699 00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:44,042 That its alphanumeric sequence 700 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:47,212 harbors some hidden meaning or message. 701 00:34:46,670 --> 00:34:49,839 In truth, the use of numbers and letters 702 00:34:49,923 --> 00:34:53,051 was a practical method for describing the intensity 703 00:34:52,592 --> 00:34:56,054 of radio signals observed by the Big Ear. 704 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,598 The computer printouts generated 705 00:34:58,682 --> 00:35:01,184 by the Big Ear featured 50 columns, 706 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:04,104 one for every channel being monitored. 707 00:35:03,561 --> 00:35:07,065 Each column had room for a single digit. 708 00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:10,360 Low intensity signals were assigned a one. 709 00:35:09,776 --> 00:35:14,280 Stronger signals were assigned a higher number. 710 00:35:13,738 --> 00:35:16,199 Because the printout columns were limited 711 00:35:16,282 --> 00:35:19,577 to single digits, signals stronger than a nine 712 00:35:19,661 --> 00:35:21,496 were assigned a letter value. 713 00:35:21,579 --> 00:35:26,418 A 10 became A, 11, became B, and so on. 714 00:35:26,501 --> 00:35:28,920 This simple method clearly demonstrated 715 00:35:28,545 --> 00:35:31,089 the intensity of the Wow! signal. 716 00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:33,174 In purely numerical terms, 717 00:35:32,674 --> 00:35:36,136 the Wow! signal was 30 times higher 718 00:35:35,552 --> 00:35:39,139 than the lowest levels of random radio noise. 719 00:35:39,556 --> 00:35:41,933 - We were trying to think of how could this 720 00:35:41,683 --> 00:35:44,227 be a fluke of some kind? 721 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:46,312 It's the biggest thing we ever saw. 722 00:35:46,396 --> 00:35:48,815 - [Jerry Ehman] Within 10 seconds or less, 723 00:35:48,314 --> 00:35:52,027 with my red pen I circled the 6EQUJ5 724 00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:55,905 and wrote the word wow, exclamation point. 725 00:35:57,657 --> 00:36:00,410 And it's fortunate, I got to thinking about this later, 726 00:36:00,493 --> 00:36:03,496 that wow is kind of like an expletive, 727 00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:07,250 but a good expletive and so it didn't have to be deleted. 728 00:36:09,044 --> 00:36:11,212 - [Robert Gray] In searching for E.T., the Wow! signal 729 00:36:10,628 --> 00:36:14,716 is the best candidate that's ever been seen. 730 00:36:16,134 --> 00:36:18,219 - [Seth Shostak] The thing about the Wow! signal is that it had 731 00:36:18,303 --> 00:36:20,597 the characteristic shape, 732 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,350 the change of intensity with time, 733 00:36:23,433 --> 00:36:24,893 followed what you would expect 734 00:36:24,976 --> 00:36:26,895 from some transmitter that's up there 735 00:36:26,978 --> 00:36:28,772 in the sky moving with the stars. 736 00:36:28,396 --> 00:36:30,774 That's what made it so appealing, 737 00:36:30,857 --> 00:36:32,150 so different from the kind of 738 00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:34,110 normal interference that you get. 739 00:36:35,904 --> 00:36:38,323 - [Narrator] Amazed by the Wow! signal's intensity, 740 00:36:38,406 --> 00:36:41,493 Jerry Ehman continued reviewing the computer printouts 741 00:36:41,576 --> 00:36:43,870 from the night of August 15th, 742 00:36:43,536 --> 00:36:46,247 and the days immediately after. 743 00:36:46,331 --> 00:36:47,874 He was searching for evidence 744 00:36:47,957 --> 00:36:51,211 that the incredibly strong signal had repeated. 745 00:36:51,294 --> 00:36:53,171 - [Jerry Ehman] I was especially interested to see 746 00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:56,091 if that same signal came back a day later, 747 00:36:56,174 --> 00:36:59,052 which would mean in the same position in the sky. 748 00:36:59,844 --> 00:37:01,554 It didn't. 749 00:37:01,638 --> 00:37:05,850 It didn't appear on the third or fourth days, either. 750 00:37:07,227 --> 00:37:10,188 After I got through looking at all the printouts, 751 00:37:10,271 --> 00:37:12,148 I called Dr. John Kraus and said, 752 00:37:12,232 --> 00:37:14,442 "We've got something interesting here." 753 00:37:16,194 --> 00:37:19,280 - [Narrator] The Wow! signal presented many questions. 754 00:37:20,323 --> 00:37:22,450 Was it a natural celestial phenomenon? 755 00:37:23,034 --> 00:37:25,286 Could it have been a man-made signal 756 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:27,080 from a passing satellite? 757 00:37:27,455 --> 00:37:30,583 Was it an artificial signal from an intelligent, 758 00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:32,919 extraterrestrial civilization? 759 00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:38,008 John Kraus, director of the Ohio State Radio Observatory, 760 00:37:38,091 --> 00:37:40,343 and his assistant director, Bob Dixon, 761 00:37:40,010 --> 00:37:42,804 immediately began to investigate 762 00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:45,765 and eliminate the possibilities. 763 00:37:45,849 --> 00:37:47,642 - [Robert Dixon] This is the scientific method. 764 00:37:47,142 --> 00:37:50,020 To discover something extraordinary 765 00:37:50,103 --> 00:37:51,771 you need extraordinary proof. 766 00:37:51,104 --> 00:37:53,898 And so we wanted to eliminate everything else we could. 767 00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:57,068 And now interference is the common situation 768 00:37:56,776 --> 00:37:58,403 with radio astronomers. 769 00:37:58,778 --> 00:38:00,905 But we have interference all the time 770 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,657 to the radio telescope, but we know what it is, 771 00:38:02,741 --> 00:38:05,410 we recognize it, we've done it for so long. 772 00:38:05,076 --> 00:38:07,370 We recognize it for what it is. 773 00:38:07,454 --> 00:38:10,123 And the characteristics of local interference, 774 00:38:09,497 --> 00:38:13,376 say coming from the Earth, is totally different. 775 00:38:13,043 --> 00:38:15,545 Interference pulses on and off, 776 00:38:15,628 --> 00:38:18,089 it'll look like little static jumping up and down. 777 00:38:18,173 --> 00:38:19,758 Never does it follow the curve 778 00:38:19,299 --> 00:38:21,509 of the radio telescope like that. 779 00:38:20,842 --> 00:38:23,928 Because what that means is the telescope was scanning 780 00:38:23,595 --> 00:38:25,680 across that area in the sky 781 00:38:25,013 --> 00:38:28,558 and it went across whatever was sending that signal 782 00:38:28,641 --> 00:38:30,101 and it went back down. 783 00:38:30,185 --> 00:38:32,312 It followed exactly the theoretical curve 784 00:38:32,395 --> 00:38:34,189 that it should follow for the shape 785 00:38:33,688 --> 00:38:36,191 of the antenna pattern of the telescope. 786 00:38:35,648 --> 00:38:38,735 That's another astounding piece of evidence. 787 00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:42,989 - [Jerry Ehman] Dr. Kraus did the bulk of the investigation 788 00:38:42,697 --> 00:38:45,241 as to what it could be. 789 00:38:45,325 --> 00:38:50,205 He looked at stars, galaxies, planets, 790 00:38:50,288 --> 00:38:52,999 satellites, and anything else 791 00:38:52,665 --> 00:38:55,293 that could have sent the signal. 792 00:38:55,377 --> 00:38:57,796 And didn't find anything. 793 00:38:58,046 --> 00:39:00,507 - [Robert Dixon] Is it equipment malfunction? 794 00:39:00,590 --> 00:39:02,258 No, we ruled that out. 795 00:39:02,342 --> 00:39:05,929 Is it some planet or star or something, no. 796 00:39:07,055 --> 00:39:08,390 I mean, one could say it might be 797 00:39:07,889 --> 00:39:09,891 an Earth satellite of some kind, but, 798 00:39:10,767 --> 00:39:12,352 the strikes are against that. 799 00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:15,105 Because we're using a frequency that's protected 800 00:39:14,646 --> 00:39:17,440 internationally for any transmitter. 801 00:39:17,524 --> 00:39:19,067 Nobody's allowed to transmit there, 802 00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:21,695 it's reserved for scientific research. 803 00:39:21,111 --> 00:39:23,613 So for a satellite to be transmitting there 804 00:39:23,113 --> 00:39:25,699 they'd have to be disobeying that rule. 805 00:39:25,782 --> 00:39:27,826 But the fact is, if it's a satellite, 806 00:39:27,492 --> 00:39:29,619 it has to be moving in the sky. 807 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:33,164 It would have to be moving at exactly the right rate, 808 00:39:32,622 --> 00:39:35,041 and that's just really not very practical 809 00:39:34,791 --> 00:39:36,209 to think about that. 810 00:39:37,377 --> 00:39:38,962 Is it a hoax? 811 00:39:38,545 --> 00:39:41,339 Well, Jerry and I are the only ones 812 00:39:41,006 --> 00:39:42,966 that could have pulled this hoax 813 00:39:43,049 --> 00:39:44,718 by fiddling around with the computer program, 814 00:39:44,801 --> 00:39:46,052 and I know I didn't do it, 815 00:39:45,593 --> 00:39:47,429 and I'm pretty sure he didn't do. 816 00:39:48,221 --> 00:39:50,265 So we knew that it was there. 817 00:39:51,224 --> 00:39:53,309 - [Narrator] The Big Ear continued to search 818 00:39:53,393 --> 00:39:56,021 the same section of sky for 30 days 819 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,356 following the Wow! signal discovery. 820 00:39:57,856 --> 00:40:01,276 Eventually, it scanned the area again 821 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:03,570 for 70 more days. 822 00:40:03,236 --> 00:40:06,072 The signal never reappeared. 823 00:40:06,031 --> 00:40:09,159 - [Robert Dixon] And what was even more puzzling is, 824 00:40:09,242 --> 00:40:12,078 we actually had two beams in the sky at the time. 825 00:40:12,162 --> 00:40:14,789 Slightly, a few minutes apart from each other. 826 00:40:14,247 --> 00:40:17,625 And when it went through one beam, we saw it, 827 00:40:17,709 --> 00:40:20,462 and it went through the other beam, we didn't see it. 828 00:40:19,919 --> 00:40:23,340 So that means that the signal turned off 829 00:40:24,174 --> 00:40:25,300 at the time we we're looking at it, 830 00:40:25,383 --> 00:40:27,218 and that's even more exciting. 831 00:40:26,634 --> 00:40:29,596 Because no natural signal would have done that. 832 00:40:31,723 --> 00:40:33,850 - [Narrator] The Big Ear design featured 833 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:36,686 two large feed horns, situated side-by-side 834 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:40,231 near one end of the telescope's aluminum ground plane. 835 00:40:39,564 --> 00:40:43,401 The dual horns acted as funnels for the radio waves 836 00:40:42,942 --> 00:40:46,071 bouncing off the parabolic reflector. 837 00:40:45,528 --> 00:40:48,531 Essentially giving the Big Ear two beams 838 00:40:48,615 --> 00:40:51,242 for observing and capturing data. 839 00:40:50,909 --> 00:40:53,328 After passing through one beam, 840 00:40:53,411 --> 00:40:56,164 a radio wave would be picked up in the second beam 841 00:40:55,914 --> 00:40:57,999 a few minutes later. 842 00:40:58,083 --> 00:41:01,336 The Wow! signal's failure to appear in the second beam 843 00:41:01,419 --> 00:41:03,171 did cause excitement. 844 00:41:03,254 --> 00:41:05,298 It also caused ambiguity. 845 00:41:06,424 --> 00:41:08,927 - If we were to pick up the Wow! signal today, 846 00:41:09,010 --> 00:41:11,763 you would be able to, at least with some SETI experiments, 847 00:41:11,846 --> 00:41:14,849 you would be able to follow up right away, right away. 848 00:41:14,224 --> 00:41:16,810 You would immediately start looking at it again. 849 00:41:16,059 --> 00:41:20,146 Now, you could say, "Yes, but they did that at Ohio State." 850 00:41:19,479 --> 00:41:23,274 They did, they followed up with one more observation. 851 00:41:23,358 --> 00:41:25,151 That was an automatic feature 852 00:41:24,818 --> 00:41:26,695 of the antenna they were using. 853 00:41:26,778 --> 00:41:28,655 So two minutes after they find Wow! signal 854 00:41:28,154 --> 00:41:31,241 they looked at it again, and that's it. 855 00:41:31,324 --> 00:41:33,368 But of course, today you would keep looking at it, 856 00:41:33,451 --> 00:41:34,994 keep looking at it, keep looking at it 857 00:41:34,452 --> 00:41:38,039 for minutes and minutes and minutes and minutes, 858 00:41:37,539 --> 00:41:39,416 and if you didn't find it you would say 859 00:41:39,082 --> 00:41:41,001 it's probably interference. 860 00:41:42,168 --> 00:41:44,212 - [Narrator] In the years since its discovery, 861 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:47,298 the Wow! signal has been recognized worldwide 862 00:41:46,715 --> 00:41:51,094 as a significant event in the search for E.T. 863 00:41:51,177 --> 00:41:54,180 Many still believe it's the best evidence to date 864 00:41:54,264 --> 00:41:56,182 of a communication from an intelligent 865 00:41:55,932 --> 00:41:58,518 extraterrestrial source. 866 00:41:57,976 --> 00:42:01,771 Others question its scientific validity. 867 00:42:02,564 --> 00:42:05,525 - [Seth Shostak] The Wow! signal certainly was a strong signal, right, 868 00:42:05,608 --> 00:42:08,194 there was no doubt about a signal being there. 869 00:42:07,944 --> 00:42:09,571 That's the not question. 870 00:42:09,654 --> 00:42:11,156 The question isn't was there a signal, 871 00:42:10,572 --> 00:42:12,615 the question is where did that signal come from? 872 00:42:12,115 --> 00:42:15,035 Did it really come from outer space? 873 00:42:15,118 --> 00:42:16,327 Did it come from something artificial? 874 00:42:16,411 --> 00:42:18,163 Did it come from something natural? 875 00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:19,330 Did it come from the Earth? 876 00:42:18,997 --> 00:42:21,332 And of course nobody knows. 877 00:42:21,583 --> 00:42:24,377 - [Scott Gaudi] It remains unexplained. 878 00:42:24,461 --> 00:42:27,380 It was a highly significant signal 879 00:42:26,796 --> 00:42:31,509 that was unexpected and difficult to explain 880 00:42:30,884 --> 00:42:35,096 by natural phenomenon, but it was never repeated. 881 00:42:34,763 --> 00:42:37,223 It could never be verified. 882 00:42:37,307 --> 00:42:42,354 And so we're left, really not knowing what caused it. 883 00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:45,148 You could imagine if an extraterrestrial civilization 884 00:42:45,231 --> 00:42:47,442 was intentionally trying to contact us 885 00:42:46,941 --> 00:42:49,194 they wouldn't just send us one signal 886 00:42:48,693 --> 00:42:51,613 and then leave us hanging for, you know, 887 00:42:51,029 --> 00:42:54,282 many years wondering what that signal meant. 888 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,786 (wind rushing) 889 00:43:09,381 --> 00:43:13,885 - [Robert Gray] This is a movie of the galaxy M33. 890 00:43:13,968 --> 00:43:18,515 This came from the VLA in January of this year. 891 00:43:18,598 --> 00:43:21,768 What I'm looking for here is a big colored dot 892 00:43:21,518 --> 00:43:23,395 that's not always there, 893 00:43:23,478 --> 00:43:26,398 that's only at one radio picture at one frequency. 894 00:43:26,481 --> 00:43:29,067 Which might be a radio signal 895 00:43:28,566 --> 00:43:32,320 pointed our way from the galaxy M33. 896 00:43:32,821 --> 00:43:35,198 No one's ever looked at this before. 897 00:43:35,281 --> 00:43:39,452 No one's ever seen this little movie I'm playing. 898 00:43:40,829 --> 00:43:43,623 This is what I call the small SETI radio telescope 899 00:43:43,289 --> 00:43:46,126 I built in the early 1980's. 900 00:43:45,417 --> 00:43:49,963 And this displays the direction the antenna's pointing, 901 00:43:49,462 --> 00:43:53,091 and this actually controls the antenna. 902 00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:57,012 So this 12-foot dish that's feeding 903 00:43:56,678 --> 00:43:58,638 electrical signals into this 904 00:43:58,263 --> 00:44:02,100 is being pointed around by a 1944 905 00:44:01,766 --> 00:44:06,104 surplus military radar pedestal. 906 00:44:05,395 --> 00:44:08,356 - [Interviewer] Where's the dish that you use with this? 907 00:44:08,023 --> 00:44:10,650 - Well, the dish is outside. 908 00:44:10,734 --> 00:44:13,028 Watch your step a little bit. 909 00:44:16,906 --> 00:44:19,451 (gentle music) 910 00:44:21,911 --> 00:44:25,832 [Robert Gray] I first heard about the Ohio State Wow! signal 911 00:44:25,915 --> 00:44:30,211 when I read an article about it in Cosmic Search magazine. 912 00:44:29,878 --> 00:44:32,839 A small radio astronomy magazine 913 00:44:32,922 --> 00:44:36,468 being published by John Kraus, the founder and designer 914 00:44:36,551 --> 00:44:39,012 of the Ohio State radio telescope. 915 00:44:40,138 --> 00:44:42,724 He wrote an article that described this unusual 916 00:44:42,807 --> 00:44:47,103 and intriguing signal they discovered in 1977. 917 00:44:48,063 --> 00:44:51,816 I was a data analyst, a computer jockey, 918 00:44:51,524 --> 00:44:53,360 programmer at the time. 919 00:44:54,569 --> 00:44:57,280 This seemed so intriguing to me 920 00:44:56,780 --> 00:44:59,115 that I called the people at Ohio State, 921 00:44:58,782 --> 00:45:01,409 called Bob Dixon I believe. 922 00:45:00,950 --> 00:45:04,746 Somewhat to my surprise, he didn't reject 923 00:45:04,829 --> 00:45:07,707 when I suggested I'd visit Columbus, Ohio, 924 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,671 then look at the radio telescope and data personally. 925 00:45:13,129 --> 00:45:15,590 Everything I heard about the Wow! signal 926 00:45:15,090 --> 00:45:18,134 seemed more and more intriguing and, 927 00:45:18,218 --> 00:45:22,055 more and more likely to be a real signal from the stars 928 00:45:23,348 --> 00:45:24,933 rather than interference. 929 00:45:25,642 --> 00:45:27,310 (suspenseful music) 930 00:45:27,394 --> 00:45:29,354 - [Narrator] Since the early 1980s, 931 00:45:29,437 --> 00:45:33,149 Robert Gray has been searching for the Wow! signal. 932 00:45:32,691 --> 00:45:36,111 Like Grote Reber several decades earlier, 933 00:45:36,194 --> 00:45:40,115 Gray searched the sky using his home brewed equipment 934 00:45:40,198 --> 00:45:43,410 and 12-foot dish antenna stationed in his backyard. 935 00:45:44,077 --> 00:45:46,413 Along with writing "The Elusive Wow", 936 00:45:46,496 --> 00:45:48,373 which chronicles his searches, 937 00:45:48,456 --> 00:45:50,500 Gray has hunted the Wow! signal at the 938 00:45:50,583 --> 00:45:53,545 Harvard Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory 939 00:45:53,628 --> 00:45:56,589 in Massachusetts, the Very Large Array 940 00:45:56,297 --> 00:45:58,967 in Socorro, New Mexico, 941 00:45:58,466 --> 00:46:01,177 and the Mount Pleasant Radio Observatory 942 00:46:01,261 --> 00:46:03,263 at the University of Tasmania. 943 00:46:04,681 --> 00:46:08,351 - [Robert Gray] The Ohio State Wow! signal was only seen once. 944 00:46:08,435 --> 00:46:13,064 It was present for six 10-second measurements, 945 00:46:12,731 --> 00:46:16,067 so it wasn't just a quick flash. 946 00:46:16,151 --> 00:46:21,072 But it wasn't seen twice for 72 seconds 947 00:46:20,572 --> 00:46:24,659 like a constant celestial source should be. 948 00:46:24,743 --> 00:46:28,079 This is a flaw in the Wow! signal, 949 00:46:28,163 --> 00:46:29,873 that it was only seen in one beam. 950 00:46:31,791 --> 00:46:33,918 - [Narrator] Some astronomers believe the Wow! signal 951 00:46:34,002 --> 00:46:36,338 appeared in only one of the Big Ear's beams 952 00:46:35,837 --> 00:46:38,840 because it was man-made interference, 953 00:46:38,298 --> 00:46:42,302 or perhaps some sort of natural anomaly. 954 00:46:42,385 --> 00:46:43,970 But an opposing school of thought 955 00:46:44,054 --> 00:46:46,765 suggests another possibility. 956 00:46:46,848 --> 00:46:50,435 A radio signal from an intelligent extraterrestrial source 957 00:46:50,101 --> 00:46:52,771 might appear intermittently. 958 00:46:53,605 --> 00:46:55,940 - [Robert Gray] It's possible that the Wow! signal 959 00:46:56,024 --> 00:46:58,068 didn't show up in the second horn 960 00:46:57,525 --> 00:47:01,571 because it was some kind of sweeping signal, 961 00:47:01,654 --> 00:47:04,866 like a cat's eye beam of a transmitter 962 00:47:04,532 --> 00:47:06,701 that was sweeping across the sky 963 00:47:06,242 --> 00:47:09,329 and swept across the Ohio State beam 964 00:47:09,996 --> 00:47:12,916 in merely a few minutes. 965 00:47:13,708 --> 00:47:16,711 Most people involved in searching 966 00:47:16,252 --> 00:47:18,213 for extraterrestrial intelligence 967 00:47:18,296 --> 00:47:21,091 have one of two scenarios in mind. 968 00:47:21,174 --> 00:47:24,636 One, is a beacon that's shining all the time, 969 00:47:23,927 --> 00:47:27,222 so anytime we happen to look at a certain spot in the sky 970 00:47:26,554 --> 00:47:30,266 we'll see it, if we're tuned to the right frequency. 971 00:47:29,766 --> 00:47:33,978 That's a terribly expensive thing to do. 972 00:47:33,645 --> 00:47:36,272 The amount of power is way more 973 00:47:36,356 --> 00:47:38,441 than all the power on Earth to operate 974 00:47:37,816 --> 00:47:41,861 a beacon that shines in all directions all the time. 975 00:47:41,945 --> 00:47:44,656 The other scenario is a big antenna 976 00:47:44,155 --> 00:47:46,866 that points our way every so often. 977 00:47:46,282 --> 00:47:51,121 A directed beam, and that uses a lot less power. 978 00:47:51,204 --> 00:47:55,083 That's the reason why big radio telescopes are so big 979 00:47:55,166 --> 00:47:58,003 is that they see a smaller spot in the sky. 980 00:47:58,086 --> 00:48:00,213 And for a transmitter that means that they're 981 00:47:59,546 --> 00:48:03,508 only shooting the power towards a small spot in the sky, 982 00:48:03,174 --> 00:48:05,510 so you'd need a lot less power. 983 00:48:04,884 --> 00:48:08,930 The drawback to a directed antenna pointing at us 984 00:48:09,014 --> 00:48:12,350 is it's probably not gonna be pointing at us all the time. 985 00:48:12,434 --> 00:48:14,686 That's another possible explanation 986 00:48:14,769 --> 00:48:18,148 for something like the Wow! signal being intermittent. 987 00:48:19,524 --> 00:48:21,192 - [Narrator] Despite his continued searches 988 00:48:20,608 --> 00:48:24,112 and long-term effort, Gray has not been able 989 00:48:24,195 --> 00:48:26,364 to find the Wow! signal again. 990 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,576 - As far as I can tell, having talked 991 00:48:29,242 --> 00:48:31,411 to nearly everyone in the field, 992 00:48:31,911 --> 00:48:34,164 no one else has ever looked for it. 993 00:48:35,373 --> 00:48:40,045 No one except for me has tried to follow up on it. 994 00:48:40,587 --> 00:48:45,216 And my observations are admittedly those 995 00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,887 of a non-professional and might very well 996 00:48:48,636 --> 00:48:50,347 have had some flaws. 997 00:48:51,389 --> 00:48:53,933 The professional astronomical community 998 00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:57,354 has never really looked hard for this thing. 999 00:48:57,020 --> 00:48:58,980 It might be worth doing so. 1000 00:49:00,523 --> 00:49:06,196 (waves splashing) (car engines rumbling) 1001 00:49:14,954 --> 00:49:17,457 - [Woman 3] Times she has a happy-- - [Woman 4] Not that I heard. 1002 00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:19,084 - [Seth Shostak] People will ask me at parties, 1003 00:49:19,167 --> 00:49:20,460 when they hear what kind of work I do, 1004 00:49:20,126 --> 00:49:22,253 they say, "Well, are you close?" 1005 00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:24,297 I don't know what that means, are you close. 1006 00:49:23,588 --> 00:49:27,133 Because until you've found a signal that you can verify, 1007 00:49:26,508 --> 00:49:30,845 and that is clearly extraterrestrial in origin, 1008 00:49:30,512 --> 00:49:33,181 you've not had any close calls, 1009 00:49:33,264 --> 00:49:34,599 you've not had any successes, 1010 00:49:34,683 --> 00:49:36,309 you've been looking, looking, looking. 1011 00:49:36,393 --> 00:49:38,061 It's like, you know, Captain Cook in the South Pacific 1012 00:49:37,811 --> 00:49:40,146 in the 1770s, right. 1013 00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:42,899 Every day he just sees more water around the ship. 1014 00:49:42,982 --> 00:49:44,442 And so, "Well, are you close?" 1015 00:49:44,526 --> 00:49:47,195 Well, he doesn't know whether he's close. 1016 00:49:46,403 --> 00:49:50,031 - [Narrator] As a senior astronomer for the SETI Institute, 1017 00:49:49,447 --> 00:49:53,201 Seth Shostak has been an active participant 1018 00:49:52,617 --> 00:49:56,246 in the institute's SETI observing programs. 1019 00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:58,331 He has written and lectured extensively 1020 00:49:58,415 --> 00:50:01,584 about the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, 1021 00:50:01,668 --> 00:50:03,753 including the Wow! signal. 1022 00:50:04,546 --> 00:50:07,465 - [Seth Shostak] The Wow! signal, of course, continues to intrigue people, 1023 00:50:07,549 --> 00:50:11,177 and maybe people think that it's our best case 1024 00:50:10,593 --> 00:50:14,139 for a signal from extraterrestrial intelligence. 1025 00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:17,851 I find that maybe a little bit, I don't know, overstated. 1026 00:50:17,934 --> 00:50:19,477 To say it's our best case. 1027 00:50:19,561 --> 00:50:20,645 It's an intriguing case 'cause it's a mystery. 1028 00:50:20,729 --> 00:50:22,188 We don't know what it was. 1029 00:50:22,272 --> 00:50:25,275 But then again, if you look back into that era, 1030 00:50:25,358 --> 00:50:27,610 in the late 1970s, there were other 1031 00:50:27,235 --> 00:50:29,529 SETI experiments running as well. 1032 00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:32,365 And they would come up with mysterious signals, as well. 1033 00:50:32,449 --> 00:50:34,868 They would come up with signals that were seen only once. 1034 00:50:34,951 --> 00:50:37,120 And that had the hallmarks of the kind 1035 00:50:37,203 --> 00:50:39,122 of signal you're looking for. 1036 00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:42,292 But they didn't have the great name, Wow! signal. 1037 00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:44,461 They were just sort of anonymous signals 1038 00:50:44,544 --> 00:50:46,629 coming from a certain spot on the sky. 1039 00:50:47,297 --> 00:50:49,299 I've written occasionally about a signal 1040 00:50:48,757 --> 00:50:52,594 that we picked up in 1997, which was the, 1041 00:50:51,968 --> 00:50:55,430 to my mind, the most interesting candidate signal 1042 00:50:55,138 --> 00:50:57,515 that we've ever gotten. 1043 00:50:56,681 --> 00:50:59,934 And for most of the day it looked like it was the real deal. 1044 00:50:59,601 --> 00:51:01,061 Turned out it wasn't, it was due 1045 00:51:01,144 --> 00:51:03,813 to a solar research satellite, 1046 00:51:03,355 --> 00:51:05,690 a European solar research satellite. 1047 00:51:05,273 --> 00:51:07,275 SOHO was the name of the satellite. 1048 00:51:06,691 --> 00:51:10,070 But for about 16 hours or so we weren't sure, 1049 00:51:10,153 --> 00:51:11,738 we thought it might be the real deal. 1050 00:51:11,112 --> 00:51:13,490 And that was actually a very interesting event. 1051 00:51:12,906 --> 00:51:15,075 It was a good thing it happened, in my mind, 1052 00:51:15,158 --> 00:51:16,701 because it showed us what happens 1053 00:51:16,368 --> 00:51:18,328 if you actually pick up a signal 1054 00:51:17,994 --> 00:51:20,747 that is what you're looking for. 1055 00:51:21,247 --> 00:51:24,209 The Wow! signal may be a case of the triumph 1056 00:51:24,292 --> 00:51:27,379 of branding over product, perhaps. 1057 00:51:28,588 --> 00:51:31,257 - [Narrator] Whether it's the best case of a signal 1058 00:51:31,341 --> 00:51:35,387 from E.T., or an unintentional triumph of branding, 1059 00:51:35,470 --> 00:51:39,140 the Wow! signal may be the most widely recognized event 1060 00:51:38,890 --> 00:51:40,892 in SETI's short history. 1061 00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:43,687 In the years since the Wow! discovery 1062 00:51:43,353 --> 00:51:45,855 SETI experiments have continued, 1063 00:51:45,939 --> 00:51:48,942 benefiting greatly from advancements in technology 1064 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,820 and more sophisticated search techniques. 1065 00:51:51,486 --> 00:51:54,072 Still, there are those who feel 1066 00:51:53,571 --> 00:51:56,408 we have barely scratched the surface. 1067 00:51:56,533 --> 00:52:00,078 - [Robert Gray] It's hard to describe how modest 1068 00:52:00,161 --> 00:52:02,872 our searches have been so far. 1069 00:52:02,956 --> 00:52:06,001 We've typically only looked for a minute or two 1070 00:52:06,084 --> 00:52:09,254 in any one direction and any one frequency. 1071 00:52:08,753 --> 00:52:11,589 It's entirely possible that there's 1072 00:52:10,922 --> 00:52:16,302 beamed transmissions pointed at us from other stars, 1073 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,305 that if we happen to point a big antenna 1074 00:52:19,014 --> 00:52:21,057 in the right direction, 1075 00:52:20,515 --> 00:52:24,769 tuned to the right frequency, we would hear. 1076 00:52:24,853 --> 00:52:29,149 We simply haven't conducted a long enough search yet, 1077 00:52:28,815 --> 00:52:31,401 at enough different frequencies 1078 00:52:32,485 --> 00:52:34,487 to even know if that's possible. 1079 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,366 - [Seth Shostak] Most SETI experiments you spend very little time 1080 00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:39,951 looking at any given direction 1081 00:52:39,451 --> 00:52:42,537 at any given spot on the radio dial. 1082 00:52:42,037 --> 00:52:44,706 Seconds, minutes, no more than that. 1083 00:52:44,164 --> 00:52:46,207 And you might say well that doesn't sound 1084 00:52:46,291 --> 00:52:47,667 like a very good strategy. 1085 00:52:47,751 --> 00:52:49,377 Maybe they do broadcast in our direction, 1086 00:52:49,461 --> 00:52:52,339 but only once a day or once a week or once a year, 1087 00:52:51,921 --> 00:52:54,174 you're gonna miss 'em, most likely. 1088 00:52:54,007 --> 00:52:55,592 And that's true. 1089 00:52:55,091 --> 00:52:57,260 But if you're doing this experiment 1090 00:52:57,344 --> 00:52:58,887 you have to decide what's the better strategy. 1091 00:52:58,303 --> 00:53:01,306 Are you gonna use that time to just keep looking 1092 00:53:01,389 --> 00:53:03,850 in the same direction at the same frequencies 1093 00:53:03,308 --> 00:53:06,394 or are you going to look at another star system? 1094 00:53:07,103 --> 00:53:10,607 It could be that somebody is not incessantly 1095 00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:12,567 targeting the Earth, 'cause after all, 1096 00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:15,070 they probably don't know that homo sapiens is here, right. 1097 00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:16,738 Unless they're within 70 light years 1098 00:53:16,196 --> 00:53:18,948 they haven't picked up the kind of radar 1099 00:53:18,490 --> 00:53:21,951 or FM radio or television signals 1100 00:53:21,618 --> 00:53:23,912 that would betray our presence. 1101 00:53:23,578 --> 00:53:25,413 They know there's life on Earth 1102 00:53:24,871 --> 00:53:26,748 because of the oxygen in our atmosphere, 1103 00:53:26,289 --> 00:53:27,999 but they don't know that there's any 1104 00:53:28,083 --> 00:53:29,668 intelligent life, so you know, 1105 00:53:29,751 --> 00:53:31,378 how much money would you spend 1106 00:53:31,461 --> 00:53:34,881 to relentlessly target some other planet with a signal 1107 00:53:34,339 --> 00:53:36,675 if all you knew was that it had biology. 1108 00:53:36,341 --> 00:53:38,176 Maybe all it's got is microbes. 1109 00:53:38,259 --> 00:53:40,470 That's the situation that obtained here 1110 00:53:39,886 --> 00:53:42,180 for a couple of billion years, so you know. 1111 00:53:41,596 --> 00:53:43,807 Maybe you don't spend a lot of money there, 1112 00:53:43,890 --> 00:53:46,601 but maybe what you do is you have a long list 1113 00:53:46,685 --> 00:53:48,728 of all the planets that you know have life 1114 00:53:48,812 --> 00:53:50,522 and you just target them all sequentially, 1115 00:53:50,605 --> 00:53:52,065 you give them a quick ping, right. 1116 00:53:52,148 --> 00:53:53,566 You give them a ping and then you come back 1117 00:53:53,024 --> 00:53:55,068 two weeks later and you ping them again, 1118 00:53:54,526 --> 00:53:57,112 or maybe two years later or 200 years later. 1119 00:53:56,695 --> 00:53:58,196 And you just ping them occasionally 1120 00:53:57,862 --> 00:53:59,989 and see if anything happens. 1121 00:54:00,073 --> 00:54:02,242 And you know, the Wow! signal could have been a ping, 1122 00:54:02,325 --> 00:54:04,411 that's certainly a suggestion. 1123 00:54:04,494 --> 00:54:07,122 That's just one possibility, there are many possibilities. 1124 00:54:07,205 --> 00:54:09,582 And unfortunately that doesn't turn it into science 1125 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,043 until you can prove that one of them is true. 1126 00:54:13,461 --> 00:54:16,297 - [Narrator] Scientific opinions continue to differ 1127 00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:18,842 about the origin of the Wow! signal. 1128 00:54:18,091 --> 00:54:22,846 Even with the controversy, it remains an extraordinary event 1129 00:54:22,178 --> 00:54:27,308 in the broader search for extraterrestrial intelligence. 1130 00:54:27,392 --> 00:54:30,311 - I think probably the majority of astronomers 1131 00:54:30,395 --> 00:54:33,231 think that it was just some naturally occurring phenomenon 1132 00:54:32,981 --> 00:54:34,858 that just happened once. 1133 00:54:34,941 --> 00:54:39,112 We're left really not knowing what caused it. 1134 00:54:39,195 --> 00:54:41,197 We can't really be sure that it was 1135 00:54:41,281 --> 00:54:43,324 an extraterrestrial civilization. 1136 00:54:43,908 --> 00:54:45,910 SETI's based on the presumption 1137 00:54:45,285 --> 00:54:50,790 that we are not the only civilized society in the galaxy, 1138 00:54:50,123 --> 00:54:53,543 and that there are civilized societies in the galaxy 1139 00:54:53,626 --> 00:54:57,756 that are willing and able to communicate with us. 1140 00:54:57,255 --> 00:55:00,592 There are two primary paths by which 1141 00:55:00,050 --> 00:55:03,219 we are looking for life in the universe. 1142 00:55:03,303 --> 00:55:07,724 One is a systematic, more scientific path. 1143 00:55:07,807 --> 00:55:09,976 The first step that you might want to know is, 1144 00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:13,188 well, are there planets around other stars at all? 1145 00:55:12,687 --> 00:55:15,065 Then if you know that there are planets 1146 00:55:15,148 --> 00:55:18,068 around other stars, the next thing you might wanna ask is, 1147 00:55:17,734 --> 00:55:19,611 well do those planetary systems 1148 00:55:19,277 --> 00:55:21,613 look anything like our own. 1149 00:55:21,696 --> 00:55:24,199 Once we find some solar systems like ours 1150 00:55:23,740 --> 00:55:25,742 then what we really want to look for 1151 00:55:25,825 --> 00:55:28,495 are planets like the Earth, pale blue dots. 1152 00:55:27,869 --> 00:55:32,499 So those are rocky planets with thin atmospheres 1153 00:55:31,831 --> 00:55:35,377 located at the right distance from their parent star 1154 00:55:34,751 --> 00:55:38,296 where they can have liquid water on the surface. 1155 00:55:38,380 --> 00:55:40,590 And that's a lot of the way in which we go about science, 1156 00:55:40,674 --> 00:55:43,009 is we take one step at a time. 1157 00:55:42,425 --> 00:55:46,221 We build upon previous advances in knowledge 1158 00:55:46,304 --> 00:55:49,683 till we ultimately get to the final question that we want. 1159 00:55:49,766 --> 00:55:52,602 SETI, on the other hand, is kinda like taking a novel 1160 00:55:52,686 --> 00:55:54,938 and going back to the last chapter 1161 00:55:55,021 --> 00:55:57,023 and reading that and finding out what happens. 1162 00:55:56,523 --> 00:55:59,526 It's kind of cheating, in some sense, 1163 00:55:59,609 --> 00:56:02,654 it's not going through the whole book. 1164 00:56:02,737 --> 00:56:04,531 So you're just trying to look directly 1165 00:56:04,614 --> 00:56:08,159 for intelligent civilizations immediately, 1166 00:56:08,243 --> 00:56:11,204 without having to go through all the systematic process 1167 00:56:10,704 --> 00:56:14,290 of leading to the discovery of life. 1168 00:56:14,791 --> 00:56:18,044 The opinions of SETI and scientists 1169 00:56:18,128 --> 00:56:19,963 that are searching for life range from 1170 00:56:20,046 --> 00:56:24,509 it's a crazy thing to do to it's a reasonable thing to do. 1171 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,637 - [Robert Dixon] SETI is only for patient people. 1172 00:56:29,222 --> 00:56:32,267 Because you can search a lifetime and never find anything, 1173 00:56:31,766 --> 00:56:33,685 but it's still so interesting and important 1174 00:56:33,768 --> 00:56:35,103 that you always do it. 1175 00:56:34,644 --> 00:56:37,230 So that's why people like Jerry and I 1176 00:56:36,730 --> 00:56:39,441 get involved in doing things like this. 1177 00:56:39,524 --> 00:56:43,236 The big danger in SETI is called anthropomorphism. 1178 00:56:42,652 --> 00:56:45,572 Looking at things from the viewpoint of man, 1179 00:56:45,655 --> 00:56:47,741 because that's the only way we can. 1180 00:56:47,157 --> 00:56:49,617 We try not to think about specific signals, 1181 00:56:49,701 --> 00:56:52,996 but look at general signals which are narrow band, 1182 00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:56,082 which would be characteristic of any such signals. 1183 00:56:56,166 --> 00:56:58,335 - [Michael Holstine] I think that the Wow! signal, 1184 00:56:59,294 --> 00:57:03,923 even though it couldn't be identified, 1185 00:57:04,007 --> 00:57:05,467 couldn't be verified, 1186 00:57:07,052 --> 00:57:10,889 was a kickstart to the continued search 1187 00:57:10,972 --> 00:57:13,099 for extraterrestrial intelligence. 1188 00:57:13,183 --> 00:57:16,853 I mean you think about even a young scientist, 1189 00:57:16,269 --> 00:57:20,023 a young astronomer, who is trying to decide 1190 00:57:20,106 --> 00:57:22,942 what his path or what her path may be, 1191 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,111 you read something about the Wow! Signal 1192 00:57:25,195 --> 00:57:27,864 and it gives you a whole new door to open. 1193 00:57:27,405 --> 00:57:29,741 It gives you another possibility. 1194 00:57:30,367 --> 00:57:33,411 - We're looking for something that we don't know 1195 00:57:33,912 --> 00:57:38,833 is there or if we're gonna ever be able to detect it. 1196 00:57:38,333 --> 00:57:42,879 And that's a difficult thing to justify. 1197 00:57:42,962 --> 00:57:45,840 But it's also potentially one of the most 1198 00:57:45,924 --> 00:57:50,136 important questions we ever want to answer. 1199 00:57:49,678 --> 00:57:53,098 So you have this balance of something 1200 00:57:53,181 --> 00:57:56,267 that's very high risk, but very high gain. 1201 00:57:57,227 --> 00:58:00,021 - [Michael Holstine] The search for extraterrestrial intelligence, 1202 00:58:01,147 --> 00:58:03,191 I think it's fair to say to some extent 1203 00:58:02,732 --> 00:58:06,861 has had a stigma associated with it. 1204 00:58:06,695 --> 00:58:09,698 (dramatic music) 1205 00:58:17,497 --> 00:58:22,585 - [Nichol Cunningham] The perception of SETI is the UFOs and sightings. 1206 00:58:23,169 --> 00:58:25,255 That little green man with big eyes. 1207 00:58:24,754 --> 00:58:28,133 And it's been potentially difficult 1208 00:58:28,216 --> 00:58:32,762 to shake off that association. 1209 00:58:32,595 --> 00:58:35,223 - [Scott Gaudi] There's an entire culture of people 1210 00:58:35,306 --> 00:58:38,601 that believe in UFOs, and that we have in fact 1211 00:58:38,685 --> 00:58:41,980 been contacted by aliens many, many times. 1212 00:58:42,063 --> 00:58:44,691 - [Karen O'Neil] Of course there's a lot of excitement 1213 00:58:44,774 --> 00:58:47,861 around the idea of aliens, of SETI, 1214 00:58:47,610 --> 00:58:49,946 of any of that, because, 1215 00:58:49,404 --> 00:58:51,865 how could it not be just incredibly exciting 1216 00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:54,659 to think that there is some other race out there, 1217 00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:57,078 some other very exotic type of race 1218 00:58:56,453 --> 00:58:59,205 out there in the universe, and the idea that hey, 1219 00:58:59,289 --> 00:59:01,124 we'll be able to interact with them 1220 00:59:00,373 --> 00:59:03,960 is just really, really enticing and really, really exciting. 1221 00:59:03,293 --> 00:59:08,006 - [Tom Burns] We get a lot of UFO reports at Perkins, 1222 00:59:07,714 --> 00:59:10,342 in one form or another. 1223 00:59:10,425 --> 00:59:12,218 And I have to say, 1224 00:59:13,386 --> 00:59:17,515 it's always, always, always some natural event. 1225 00:59:18,058 --> 00:59:20,143 There was one thing that I saw one time 1226 00:59:20,226 --> 00:59:21,811 I had no idea what it was. 1227 00:59:21,895 --> 00:59:25,440 These beautiful white points of light 1228 00:59:25,106 --> 00:59:27,942 darting around, darting around. 1229 00:59:28,026 --> 00:59:29,694 They were just a whole lot of them. 1230 00:59:29,778 --> 00:59:32,989 So I got in my car and I drove toward it, what was it? 1231 00:59:33,073 --> 00:59:38,161 It was a bunch of seagulls dancing around a billboard. 1232 00:59:38,703 --> 00:59:40,914 The billboard lights tend to point up 1233 00:59:40,246 --> 00:59:44,125 and it was the lights reflecting off their stomachs. 1234 00:59:44,209 --> 00:59:46,419 Thought I had it, but it was seagulls. 1235 00:59:47,253 --> 00:59:51,883 - [Michael Holstine] The sensationalism that surrounds SETI research 1236 00:59:51,966 --> 00:59:53,385 can be pretty amazing, 1237 00:59:52,842 --> 00:59:56,763 and Green Bank has not been immune to it. 1238 00:59:56,262 --> 01:00:01,351 When a 300-foot telescope collapsed in 1988 1239 01:00:01,017 --> 01:00:05,397 there were, albeit tabloid, 1240 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,148 newspaper headlines that said 1241 01:00:06,564 --> 01:00:11,444 "Aliens destroy radio telescope in Green Bank". 1242 01:00:11,986 --> 01:00:16,032 That's just proof of the need for people 1243 01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:18,576 to think about the fantastical. 1244 01:00:18,201 --> 01:00:23,373 To be exposed to the fantastical. 1245 01:00:22,747 --> 01:00:28,169 - If somebody could come up with one thing one time, 1246 01:00:28,253 --> 01:00:30,755 that they could describe to me 1247 01:00:30,839 --> 01:00:33,883 that I couldn't figure out what it was, 1248 01:00:33,967 --> 01:00:37,971 then I might be more interested in this kind of thing. 1249 01:00:38,763 --> 01:00:40,390 (gentle music) 1250 01:00:40,473 --> 01:00:43,476 - [Karen O'Neil] Human beings love to wonder why. 1251 01:00:44,686 --> 01:00:46,938 Are there beings out there in the universe 1252 01:00:46,354 --> 01:00:50,692 is just so tantalizing, so exciting to think 1253 01:00:50,775 --> 01:00:53,111 there's something else out there, we're not alone. 1254 01:00:53,361 --> 01:00:56,698 - [Scott Gaudi] As a skeptic, as a scientist I'm a skeptic, 1255 01:00:56,781 --> 01:00:58,533 and as a skeptic I have to say that 1256 01:00:57,824 --> 01:01:01,369 I don't believe there's been any real definitive evidence 1257 01:01:00,827 --> 01:01:04,831 of extraterrestrial life contacting us. 1258 01:01:04,914 --> 01:01:06,458 Of course which begs the question, 1259 01:01:06,541 --> 01:01:09,210 does that mean that such life is rare? 1260 01:01:09,294 --> 01:01:12,881 A lot of people are familiar with the Fermi paradox 1261 01:01:12,213 --> 01:01:17,886 which simply put is if intelligent life is out there, 1262 01:01:17,969 --> 01:01:20,388 where are they, why haven't they contacted us. 1263 01:01:20,472 --> 01:01:24,601 There are various solutions to this apparent paradox, 1264 01:01:24,684 --> 01:01:26,728 but one of them is simply that 1265 01:01:26,811 --> 01:01:28,855 there is no other intelligent life out there, 1266 01:01:28,188 --> 01:01:32,192 that we are the only intelligent life in our galaxy. 1267 01:01:31,566 --> 01:01:36,029 If I were a betting man, and I'm not, but if I were, 1268 01:01:36,112 --> 01:01:40,033 I would bet that simple life is probably fairly common 1269 01:01:39,366 --> 01:01:44,496 and we will probably find it, maybe not in my lifetime, 1270 01:01:43,953 --> 01:01:47,123 but certainly within the next few hundred years. 1271 01:01:48,083 --> 01:01:49,459 - [Seth Shostak] One of the problems with SETI 1272 01:01:48,958 --> 01:01:51,294 is that you can't guarantee success. 1273 01:01:50,752 --> 01:01:53,838 If you decide that as a young astronomer 1274 01:01:53,922 --> 01:01:55,298 you're gonna go study exoplanets, 1275 01:01:55,382 --> 01:01:56,633 you can be sure you're gonna find some 1276 01:01:56,174 --> 01:01:58,593 and you're gonna learn something new. 1277 01:01:57,967 --> 01:02:01,638 You can't miss, we've found thousands of exoplanets. 1278 01:02:01,721 --> 01:02:03,932 So, of course, you're gonna find some. 1279 01:02:03,598 --> 01:02:06,267 With SETI, there's no guarantee. 1280 01:02:05,809 --> 01:02:09,020 It may be that you spend decades, 1281 01:02:08,395 --> 01:02:11,815 maybe this take centuries, maybe more, who knows, 1282 01:02:11,898 --> 01:02:13,400 to find something. 1283 01:02:12,816 --> 01:02:15,068 And all that time you didn't find anything. 1284 01:02:15,151 --> 01:02:16,736 And you gotta be able to take that. 1285 01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:18,947 You gotta be able to say look, I'm down with that. 1286 01:02:19,030 --> 01:02:20,448 I can handle that. 1287 01:02:22,158 --> 01:02:24,160 - [Michael Holstine] I personally feel that it is entirely possible 1288 01:02:24,244 --> 01:02:28,081 that we will discover life beyond our own. 1289 01:02:28,915 --> 01:02:32,293 Can I definitively say that it's gonna happen 1290 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,379 in my lifetime, no I can't. 1291 01:02:35,964 --> 01:02:37,507 Do I think it will happen? 1292 01:02:36,965 --> 01:02:39,968 I absolutely do think that it'll happen. 1293 01:02:40,051 --> 01:02:44,347 I do believe that there's life elsewhere beyond our planet. 1294 01:02:44,681 --> 01:02:48,143 How advanced that life may be is a question, 1295 01:02:47,642 --> 01:02:51,938 but, certainly if we have progressed 1296 01:02:52,022 --> 01:02:55,734 to the level of intelligence that we are, 1297 01:02:55,191 --> 01:02:59,320 and some argue that well maybe we aren't either, 1298 01:03:01,781 --> 01:03:06,077 I can't imagine that other potential life forms 1299 01:03:06,161 --> 01:03:08,788 haven't progressed far beyond where we are. 1300 01:03:09,497 --> 01:03:12,208 - [Karen O'Neil] Will we discover life that is beyond 1301 01:03:11,583 --> 01:03:15,211 just the cellular life and moving on to something 1302 01:03:15,295 --> 01:03:18,465 that is intelligent, boy you know, 1303 01:03:18,548 --> 01:03:22,427 it's such a guess. 1304 01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:25,764 We might. 1305 01:03:28,725 --> 01:03:31,269 - [Tom Burns] I think you have to be honest with people 1306 01:03:31,353 --> 01:03:35,231 from whom you are asking for funding. 1307 01:03:34,898 --> 01:03:37,567 The difficulties are great here 1308 01:03:37,025 --> 01:03:41,321 and the chances of success are very limited. 1309 01:03:42,530 --> 01:03:45,241 And you probably won't find anything. 1310 01:03:50,372 --> 01:03:53,625 - [Michael Holstine] Funding of basic research seems to be a challenge. 1311 01:03:54,125 --> 01:03:56,586 Especially in this day and age. 1312 01:03:56,670 --> 01:03:59,089 We can't say that we're creating anything. 1313 01:03:58,755 --> 01:04:01,341 We're not building widgets, 1314 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,177 we're not selling something for retail, 1315 01:04:03,843 --> 01:04:06,805 we're doing basic research. 1316 01:04:06,262 --> 01:04:10,100 And basic research sometimes is a hard sell. 1317 01:04:10,183 --> 01:04:12,560 Americans like a result, you know. 1318 01:04:12,018 --> 01:04:15,271 They like something they can hold in their hands. 1319 01:04:16,981 --> 01:04:18,733 - [Ellie White] Careful. 1320 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,193 - [Shopper] Where is Copernicus? 1321 01:04:20,276 --> 01:04:21,736 - [Ellie White] There's a tag in there 1322 01:04:21,820 --> 01:04:23,113 it says loose. - [Shopper] Is that Einstein 1323 01:04:23,196 --> 01:04:23,738 right there? - [Ellie White] Yeah. 1324 01:04:25,156 --> 01:04:29,202 - Ever since 2012, the observatory has faced 1325 01:04:29,285 --> 01:04:31,955 some issues in terms of decreased funding. 1326 01:04:34,207 --> 01:04:36,334 - [Narrator] As the first National Radio 1327 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:39,295 Astronomy Observatory in the United States, 1328 01:04:38,795 --> 01:04:41,923 Green Bank had always been fully funded 1329 01:04:41,423 --> 01:04:44,676 by the National Science Foundation. 1330 01:04:44,342 --> 01:04:46,219 But changing federal priorities 1331 01:04:46,302 --> 01:04:49,347 created funding challenges over the years. 1332 01:04:49,556 --> 01:04:53,226 In 2012, the National Science Foundation 1333 01:04:52,892 --> 01:04:56,062 recommended a gradual defunding 1334 01:04:55,729 --> 01:04:57,480 of the Green Bank facility. 1335 01:04:58,064 --> 01:05:00,483 - [Michael Holstine] You know, the potential is there 1336 01:04:59,816 --> 01:05:02,861 that one of the options is dismantling the telescope. 1337 01:05:02,569 --> 01:05:05,405 You know, we disappear. 1338 01:05:04,779 --> 01:05:09,325 And the research that's done here at Green Bank 1339 01:05:09,159 --> 01:05:10,535 could disappear. 1340 01:05:11,161 --> 01:05:15,457 - There's nobody I'm aware of that would like 1341 01:05:15,206 --> 01:05:17,459 to see Green Bank close. 1342 01:05:17,542 --> 01:05:19,169 And I mean that all the way to the people 1343 01:05:19,252 --> 01:05:20,545 that are making the funding decisions 1344 01:05:20,295 --> 01:05:22,172 to cut back our funding. 1345 01:05:22,255 --> 01:05:24,007 They really don't want to see this place close. 1346 01:05:24,090 --> 01:05:25,967 Nobody wants to see this place close. 1347 01:05:26,384 --> 01:05:29,596 - While the observatory could find other 1348 01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:32,223 collaborative parties which could provide funding, 1349 01:05:32,307 --> 01:05:35,226 the problem with that is the NSF provides 1350 01:05:34,726 --> 01:05:37,228 open sky science, which means anyone 1351 01:05:36,895 --> 01:05:39,105 can come in and apply for time, 1352 01:05:38,688 --> 01:05:41,274 whether they have the money or not. 1353 01:05:41,358 --> 01:05:44,527 That is a really important thing to keep going. 1354 01:05:44,611 --> 01:05:47,364 We're just gonna try to do what we can to help 1355 01:05:47,447 --> 01:05:49,699 keep that secured. 1356 01:05:50,909 --> 01:05:53,078 The Green Bank Observatory has had 1357 01:05:53,161 --> 01:05:55,205 more impact than I can say 1358 01:05:55,288 --> 01:05:59,209 on my future and my ideas of what I'd like to do. 1359 01:05:59,292 --> 01:06:03,088 Aspects of astronomy that I was not familiar with. 1360 01:06:03,171 --> 01:06:04,881 For example, I've gotten so interested 1361 01:06:04,547 --> 01:06:07,092 in the instrumentation side. 1362 01:06:07,175 --> 01:06:09,969 I just think it's really important to have that background 1363 01:06:10,053 --> 01:06:11,846 in knowing your equipment and knowing 1364 01:06:11,596 --> 01:06:13,306 what you're researching, 1365 01:06:13,390 --> 01:06:15,475 so that you can do things like compare 1366 01:06:15,225 --> 01:06:16,810 is this an actual signal 1367 01:06:16,351 --> 01:06:19,979 or is this some sort of system issue. 1368 01:06:20,063 --> 01:06:23,108 Which I think is really important in SETI 1369 01:06:22,399 --> 01:06:27,237 as well as in every field of research in radio astronomy. 1370 01:06:28,113 --> 01:06:29,864 - [Michael Holstine] When I first met Ellie White, 1371 01:06:29,948 --> 01:06:32,784 her and her mother came into my office. 1372 01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:34,744 She was about 11 years old. 1373 01:06:35,620 --> 01:06:39,624 And the funding problems for Green Bank Observatory 1374 01:06:39,290 --> 01:06:41,876 had sort of just been released. 1375 01:06:41,418 --> 01:06:44,921 And Ellie had been, in her own time, 1376 01:06:44,379 --> 01:06:49,342 creating these cloth dolls of scientists. 1377 01:06:49,426 --> 01:06:53,096 So she picked her favorite scientific people from history. 1378 01:06:52,429 --> 01:06:58,184 And she had a Madam Curie doll and she had these others. 1379 01:06:57,851 --> 01:07:00,061 And the purpose of her visit 1380 01:07:00,145 --> 01:07:04,858 was to see if we might want to sell those in our gift shop. 1381 01:07:04,941 --> 01:07:06,568 Which I thought, well that's kind of cool, 1382 01:07:06,651 --> 01:07:09,821 you know maybe we could do something with her. 1383 01:07:09,904 --> 01:07:12,741 But what she said next is what I'll never forget. 1384 01:07:12,824 --> 01:07:14,617 It'll be one of those moments 1385 01:07:14,701 --> 01:07:18,246 that will live with me well after I'm retired. 1386 01:07:18,872 --> 01:07:21,708 The reason that she wanted to sell them in our gift shop 1387 01:07:21,791 --> 01:07:24,878 is because she wanted to give part of the proceeds 1388 01:07:24,961 --> 01:07:29,507 back to the observatory to help fund our mission. 1389 01:07:30,550 --> 01:07:33,928 - [Ellie White] So these are two of the scientist dolls. 1390 01:07:33,303 --> 01:07:37,891 This is Nicholas Copernicus and Albert Einstein. 1391 01:07:38,683 --> 01:07:40,185 I started showing them to people and they said 1392 01:07:39,642 --> 01:07:42,771 you should sell these, so I thought well, 1393 01:07:42,854 --> 01:07:44,439 I'll sell them and donate part 1394 01:07:44,522 --> 01:07:46,232 of the profits to Green Bank. 1395 01:07:45,607 --> 01:07:47,776 - [Interviewer] How appreciative have they been 1396 01:07:47,859 --> 01:07:49,152 about these dolls? 1397 01:07:49,235 --> 01:07:54,240 - Very, they're very appreciative and, 1398 01:07:54,491 --> 01:07:56,993 just it's great to hear some of the stories 1399 01:07:57,077 --> 01:07:59,287 of people who come in and buy 'em. 1400 01:07:58,787 --> 01:08:01,122 I think the first doll that was sold 1401 01:08:00,789 --> 01:08:03,291 was to a lady from New Zealand. 1402 01:08:02,749 --> 01:08:04,751 - [Interviewer] Will you keep doing this? 1403 01:08:06,211 --> 01:08:09,631 - Yeah, as long as I can keep up with the demand. (laughs) 1404 01:08:11,132 --> 01:08:15,178 - [Michael Holstine] Green Bank has had such a profound effect on her. 1405 01:08:14,678 --> 01:08:19,641 Just the exposure to what we do here 1406 01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:21,476 changed her completely. 1407 01:08:21,017 --> 01:08:25,271 She became so passionate about astronomy, 1408 01:08:25,355 --> 01:08:28,066 so passionate about protecting 1409 01:08:27,565 --> 01:08:30,360 the Green Bank Observatory, to make sure 1410 01:08:29,818 --> 01:08:33,279 that other people get the same reaction, 1411 01:08:33,363 --> 01:08:34,948 you know, get the same effect. 1412 01:08:34,698 --> 01:08:37,492 - [Deana White] Now this has been a life-changing experience 1413 01:08:36,991 --> 01:08:40,829 for Ellie, for Josh, my son, for us. 1414 01:08:40,912 --> 01:08:43,957 She's learned things about how to ask questions 1415 01:08:43,623 --> 01:08:47,377 without fear, to have curiosity 1416 01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:49,004 and enthusiasm about learning, 1417 01:08:49,087 --> 01:08:51,715 which is really what we are all striving for. 1418 01:08:51,798 --> 01:08:54,384 And it's what we look to the heavens for. 1419 01:08:54,467 --> 01:08:57,262 - [Karen O'Neil] Ellie's passion for science and for astronomy 1420 01:08:57,345 --> 01:09:00,348 is amazing and it's just really neat to watch. 1421 01:09:00,432 --> 01:09:05,145 If we were, heaven forbid, to stop funding 1422 01:09:04,436 --> 01:09:07,856 fundamental science then I think we lose a lot of things. 1423 01:09:07,939 --> 01:09:10,817 I think in the near term we lose a little 1424 01:09:10,483 --> 01:09:12,152 piece of humanity, I think. 1425 01:09:11,693 --> 01:09:13,486 We lose a little piece of our ability 1426 01:09:13,153 --> 01:09:15,113 to just ask the question why 1427 01:09:15,196 --> 01:09:18,324 and try to understand who and how we got here. 1428 01:09:17,741 --> 01:09:20,493 And then in the long term, if you don't have 1429 01:09:20,577 --> 01:09:23,496 people doing the basic fundamental research 1430 01:09:22,996 --> 01:09:26,416 you're not gonna have big breakthroughs 1431 01:09:26,499 --> 01:09:29,919 10, 20 years from now in understanding everything. 1432 01:09:30,003 --> 01:09:32,797 And to me that's the most important part of all this. 1433 01:09:33,798 --> 01:09:37,093 - [Stephen] It's time to commit to finding the answer 1434 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:42,265 to search for life beyond earth. 1435 01:09:42,724 --> 01:09:47,145 The Breakthrough Initiatives are making that commitment. 1436 01:09:47,228 --> 01:09:50,106 - Breakthrough Listen takes the search 1437 01:09:49,606 --> 01:09:51,608 for intelligent life in the universe 1438 01:09:51,691 --> 01:09:53,943 to a completely new level. 1439 01:09:55,487 --> 01:09:59,115 - [Narrator] In 2015, Russian billionaire Yuri Milner, 1440 01:09:58,448 --> 01:10:02,452 along with Stephen Hawking, Frank Drake, and others 1441 01:10:01,785 --> 01:10:05,413 developed a long-term initiative dedicated to the search 1442 01:10:04,829 --> 01:10:08,333 for intelligent civilizations beyond Earth. 1443 01:10:08,833 --> 01:10:11,169 The highly funded SETI project, 1444 01:10:11,252 --> 01:10:13,046 known as Breakthrough Listen, 1445 01:10:12,379 --> 01:10:16,424 required the world's most powerful radio telescopes, 1446 01:10:15,757 --> 01:10:19,969 including the world's largest fully steerable scope 1447 01:10:20,053 --> 01:10:22,472 at the Green Bank Observatory. 1448 01:10:21,721 --> 01:10:26,226 Much like Ohio State's Big Ear Telescope many years earlier, 1449 01:10:25,809 --> 01:10:28,269 Green Bank's path led to the search 1450 01:10:28,353 --> 01:10:31,022 for extraterrestrial intelligence, 1451 01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:34,484 and the opportunity came at the perfect time. 1452 01:10:34,567 --> 01:10:39,197 - [Michael Holstine] It's interesting how the timing of these things works out. 1453 01:10:38,863 --> 01:10:41,825 The GBT and the Green Bank site 1454 01:10:41,157 --> 01:10:45,662 were in need of finding external sources of funding. 1455 01:10:45,328 --> 01:10:47,455 The Breakthrough Listen program 1456 01:10:47,539 --> 01:10:50,500 is a privately-funded project, 1457 01:10:50,583 --> 01:10:55,338 over 10 years, with $100 million being spent on it. 1458 01:10:54,879 --> 01:10:59,259 It is the next huge modern search 1459 01:10:59,342 --> 01:11:03,179 dedicated to extraterrestrial intelligence detection. 1460 01:11:03,263 --> 01:11:07,684 They needed to utilize the best technology 1461 01:11:07,767 --> 01:11:09,227 that they could find. 1462 01:11:08,768 --> 01:11:11,479 And the GBT, the Green Bank Telescope 1463 01:11:11,563 --> 01:11:14,941 is a radio telescope that can give them 1464 01:11:14,441 --> 01:11:18,194 more sensitivity, more sky coverage, 1465 01:11:17,610 --> 01:11:20,947 than any other radio telescope in the world. 1466 01:11:21,322 --> 01:11:23,700 - [Ellie White] The search for extraterrestrial intelligence 1467 01:11:23,783 --> 01:11:26,828 has been going on for more than 50 years now. 1468 01:11:26,911 --> 01:11:28,830 With the advent of Breakthrough Listen 1469 01:11:28,038 --> 01:11:32,625 20% of the Green Bank Telescope's time per year is dedicated 1470 01:11:32,042 --> 01:11:35,545 to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. 1471 01:11:35,628 --> 01:11:38,256 And that is hundreds of hours. 1472 01:11:37,630 --> 01:11:42,177 Much, much more time and resources put towards SETI. 1473 01:11:41,676 --> 01:11:44,512 So I think that really ups your chances. 1474 01:11:45,889 --> 01:11:48,099 - Would we like to actually see a signal in there? 1475 01:11:47,766 --> 01:11:50,393 Of course, it would be amazing. 1476 01:11:50,477 --> 01:11:52,228 It would change the way we would look at the universe, 1477 01:11:51,644 --> 01:11:55,357 because it's one thing to say there might be 1478 01:11:54,814 --> 01:11:57,567 a signal out there, it's another thing to say 1479 01:11:57,650 --> 01:11:59,819 we have found a signal out there. 1480 01:12:00,987 --> 01:12:04,699 - Green Bank is searching for its own Wow! signal. 1481 01:12:04,783 --> 01:12:07,160 We are looking for the signal 1482 01:12:06,701 --> 01:12:09,120 that's gonna knock our socks off. 1483 01:12:09,204 --> 01:12:11,456 And we can't wait 'til we find it. 1484 01:12:12,290 --> 01:12:16,336 Why would we ever want to give up the capability 1485 01:12:16,419 --> 01:12:19,214 to expand our horizon? 1486 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,259 And go back to a level where 1487 01:12:22,634 --> 01:12:27,472 even the most basic question about our universe 1488 01:12:26,721 --> 01:12:32,435 has to go unanswered because we didn't put a dollar into it. 1489 01:12:33,186 --> 01:12:36,606 If the GBT or the Green Bank Observatory 1490 01:12:36,690 --> 01:12:39,442 were to disappear, it's gone. 1491 01:12:40,151 --> 01:12:42,737 These are national treasures 1492 01:12:42,404 --> 01:12:44,698 located all around this country, 1493 01:12:44,781 --> 01:12:47,158 and some located all around the globe, 1494 01:12:47,242 --> 01:12:50,453 that we just don't want to give up. 1495 01:12:49,911 --> 01:12:53,581 The amount of money that it takes to run them 1496 01:12:53,665 --> 01:12:56,793 is minuscule compared to the potential 1497 01:12:57,293 --> 01:13:01,339 for expanding our knowledge that exists 1498 01:13:01,423 --> 01:13:03,049 because they are here. 1499 01:13:09,097 --> 01:13:12,392 (car engines humming) 1500 01:13:24,988 --> 01:13:28,533 - [Interviewer] This stuff is neat. 1501 01:13:33,663 --> 01:13:35,248 What are we looking at in here? 1502 01:13:36,124 --> 01:13:39,210 - We're coming to the Big Ear room. 1503 01:13:38,877 --> 01:13:42,213 This is the room that we created 1504 01:13:41,963 --> 01:13:44,591 in honor of the Big Ear, 1505 01:13:44,674 --> 01:13:48,094 and we made copies of the Wow! signal, 1506 01:13:48,178 --> 01:13:51,848 the data that we call the Wow! signal. 1507 01:13:51,931 --> 01:13:57,437 And we have built a beautiful scale model 1508 01:13:56,936 --> 01:14:02,192 of the telescope, the Big Ear Telescope. 1509 01:14:02,275 --> 01:14:07,364 Imagine taking this element right here, the collector, 1510 01:14:08,531 --> 01:14:13,995 and moving this enormous metal structure up and down 1511 01:14:13,661 --> 01:14:16,414 so that you collect information 1512 01:14:16,498 --> 01:14:19,834 from different parts of the sky than say straight up. 1513 01:14:20,502 --> 01:14:24,047 - [Interviewer] Can you take us out to the Big Ear? 1514 01:14:24,130 --> 01:14:25,382 - Sure, let's go. 1515 01:14:34,057 --> 01:14:36,351 That just happened, of course. 1516 01:14:36,434 --> 01:14:38,353 And we'll get that out of there eventually. 1517 01:14:38,436 --> 01:14:39,938 Humph, eventually. 1518 01:14:42,232 --> 01:14:44,609 I come back here practically every day. 1519 01:14:50,615 --> 01:14:54,953 Big Ear is just over the crest of this hill. 1520 01:14:57,539 --> 01:15:00,709 Oh, I hate to walk on a golf course in my street shoes, 1521 01:15:00,792 --> 01:15:02,919 but what are you gonna do? 1522 01:15:05,588 --> 01:15:08,591 Ladies and gents, Big Ear. 1523 01:15:11,594 --> 01:15:14,389 (gentle music) 1524 01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:26,359 - [Narrator] After losing federal funding in the 1970s, 1525 01:15:25,775 --> 01:15:28,862 the Big Ear telescope shifted to the search 1526 01:15:28,945 --> 01:15:31,698 for extraterrestrial intelligence. 1527 01:15:31,781 --> 01:15:34,659 Besides discovering the historic Wow! signal, 1528 01:15:34,743 --> 01:15:37,370 the Ohio State SETI Program was recognized 1529 01:15:36,911 --> 01:15:39,330 by the Guinness Book of World Records 1530 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,874 for running the longest, 1531 01:15:40,957 --> 01:15:43,501 full-scale SETI program for its time. 1532 01:15:45,211 --> 01:15:49,758 In 1997, despite its contributions to radio astronomy, 1533 01:15:49,174 --> 01:15:52,635 developers decided the land under the Big Ear 1534 01:15:52,719 --> 01:15:55,764 would be better served as a housing development 1535 01:15:55,597 --> 01:15:57,098 and golf course. 1536 01:15:57,724 --> 01:16:01,644 - [Jerry Ehman] We got word that the land had been sold 1537 01:16:01,102 --> 01:16:05,857 out from under us, without even informing 1538 01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:07,817 Dr. John Kraus or anybody. 1539 01:16:07,275 --> 01:16:11,279 They simply sold the land to land developers. 1540 01:16:11,363 --> 01:16:15,575 And their goal was to increase the size of the golf course 1541 01:16:15,658 --> 01:16:18,745 from a nine-hole course to an 18-hole course, 1542 01:16:18,161 --> 01:16:23,541 and then to build some 400 homes on the land. 1543 01:16:23,625 --> 01:16:28,505 Just a few months before John Kraus died at age 94, 1544 01:16:28,588 --> 01:16:32,759 he decided he needed to write a little note 1545 01:16:32,842 --> 01:16:35,136 expressing this as a day of infamy, 1546 01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:38,264 the day that he received notification 1547 01:16:38,348 --> 01:16:41,351 that the Big Ear was going to be torn down. 1548 01:16:41,810 --> 01:16:45,146 - [Robert Dixon] That caused a great hue and cry, 1549 01:16:45,230 --> 01:16:46,731 and Ohio State University said 1550 01:16:46,815 --> 01:16:48,900 we are not going to spend money with lawsuits 1551 01:16:48,983 --> 01:16:50,902 fighting over developers. 1552 01:16:50,568 --> 01:16:52,278 So they threw in the towel. 1553 01:16:53,613 --> 01:16:56,574 (melancholy music) 1554 01:17:07,502 --> 01:17:12,340 - [Robert Gray] Had they had a well-financed research program going, 1555 01:17:11,881 --> 01:17:15,135 I think they might have survived. 1556 01:17:16,344 --> 01:17:20,932 Unfortunately, a lot of these major scientific instruments 1557 01:17:20,473 --> 01:17:25,353 get superseded, they become obsolete. 1558 01:17:25,854 --> 01:17:29,691 The interest of science, scientists, 1559 01:17:29,774 --> 01:17:32,986 and science funding agencies moves on. 1560 01:17:34,779 --> 01:17:36,781 - [Tom Burns] The Big Ear had its day. 1561 01:17:36,865 --> 01:17:40,118 It did important research in astronomy. 1562 01:17:40,201 --> 01:17:43,955 It did that SETI research for all of those years. 1563 01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:49,127 But there comes a time when old technology 1564 01:17:49,210 --> 01:17:53,590 simply has outlived its usefulness 1565 01:17:53,673 --> 01:17:57,719 and with sadness you tear it down. 1566 01:17:59,596 --> 01:18:02,891 It was a sad moment to see it go, 1567 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,353 but the simple fact was 1568 01:18:05,852 --> 01:18:08,730 that it had outlived its usefulness. 1569 01:18:08,396 --> 01:18:11,691 It had its time in the sun, 1570 01:18:11,107 --> 01:18:16,863 and the land was useful for other purposes. 1571 01:18:17,947 --> 01:18:19,574 - [Interviewer] Do you think a golf course and 1572 01:18:19,657 --> 01:18:21,284 housing development, do you think that was useful? 1573 01:18:21,368 --> 01:18:26,122 - Well the fact is that, before the Big Ear came along, 1574 01:18:26,206 --> 01:18:28,458 the land was basically just wasteland. 1575 01:18:27,999 --> 01:18:31,211 It was covered with trees and brush. 1576 01:18:30,877 --> 01:18:34,964 And of course the Big Ear really 1577 01:18:35,048 --> 01:18:36,716 wasn't good for much anymore. 1578 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,888 The simple fact was it was frozen in place. 1579 01:18:42,305 --> 01:18:45,100 You could no longer remove the main primary 1580 01:18:44,516 --> 01:18:48,937 light gathering device up and down like this, 1581 01:18:48,478 --> 01:18:51,481 so it was frozen in place like this. 1582 01:18:50,980 --> 01:18:53,525 So that what they essentially had to do 1583 01:18:52,941 --> 01:18:57,112 was to wait for the sky to rotate above them 1584 01:18:57,195 --> 01:19:00,532 if they wanted to collect information on a given star, 1585 01:18:59,989 --> 01:19:03,451 or from a given star to do SETI research. 1586 01:19:03,868 --> 01:19:06,204 - [Interviewer] People miss it? 1587 01:19:06,287 --> 01:19:09,124 - I would say there was a giant uproar 1588 01:19:08,832 --> 01:19:11,334 when the land was sold. 1589 01:19:11,418 --> 01:19:16,256 But by the time the Big Ear was finally torn down, 1590 01:19:17,382 --> 01:19:20,010 people weren't so upset about it. 1591 01:19:20,093 --> 01:19:22,178 (gentle music) 1592 01:19:22,262 --> 01:19:25,265 - [Robert Gray] Is the Ohio State Observatory an icon? 1593 01:19:25,348 --> 01:19:28,643 A temple of science that shouldn't 1594 01:19:28,727 --> 01:19:31,730 have been demolished? 1595 01:19:32,522 --> 01:19:37,027 It accomplished a lot, but I don't think it was an icon. 1596 01:19:37,902 --> 01:19:39,988 Unfortunately, if it turns out 1597 01:19:40,071 --> 01:19:41,865 the Wow! signal's the real thing, 1598 01:19:41,948 --> 01:19:44,784 that sometime, somewhere down the road 1599 01:19:44,868 --> 01:19:48,872 somebody demonstrates that it's an interstellar broadcast, 1600 01:19:49,372 --> 01:19:51,875 it'll be tragic that 1601 01:19:51,332 --> 01:19:56,171 the Ohio State Radio Telescope was torn down. 1602 01:19:58,798 --> 01:20:01,259 - [Seth Shostak] If the Wow! signal had been verified, 1603 01:20:00,925 --> 01:20:02,886 if it had been found again, 1604 01:20:02,385 --> 01:20:05,096 then, you know, it would be in every 1605 01:20:05,180 --> 01:20:06,473 history book in the world. 1606 01:20:06,139 --> 01:20:07,891 That would be in one of the most 1607 01:20:07,974 --> 01:20:09,934 important discoveries of all time. 1608 01:20:10,018 --> 01:20:12,062 And because of the fact that it has 1609 01:20:11,394 --> 01:20:14,731 this wonderful name, Jerry Ehman was really brilliant 1610 01:20:14,481 --> 01:20:15,940 to write wow next to it. 1611 01:20:16,024 --> 01:20:18,151 If he'd just made a check mark 1612 01:20:18,234 --> 01:20:20,278 probably nobody would have ever heard the Wow! Signal, 1613 01:20:20,362 --> 01:20:22,322 at least the public probably wouldn't have heard of it. 1614 01:20:21,988 --> 01:20:24,366 So that's the difference between 1615 01:20:23,698 --> 01:20:27,744 a confirmed result and an ambiguous one, unfortunately. 1616 01:20:28,912 --> 01:20:31,414 (gentle music) 1617 01:20:33,958 --> 01:20:35,377 - [Narrator] Why do we search? 1618 01:20:36,086 --> 01:20:39,422 The road is long, with few rewards. 1619 01:20:39,839 --> 01:20:43,009 The skepticism demanded by good science 1620 01:20:42,717 --> 01:20:45,136 tempers our excitement. 1621 01:20:45,220 --> 01:20:47,347 And discovery remains elusive. 1622 01:20:48,348 --> 01:20:51,101 And yet we persevere. 1623 01:20:50,517 --> 01:20:55,146 Fascinated by the possibility of what could be. 1624 01:20:57,315 --> 01:20:58,942 - [Robert Gray] Why care about life elsewhere? 1625 01:20:59,818 --> 01:21:01,486 That's a good question. 1626 01:21:03,571 --> 01:21:08,368 Life here is a riot of different forms, 1627 01:21:08,451 --> 01:21:12,497 colors, sizes, noises, environments, behaviors. 1628 01:21:12,956 --> 01:21:18,044 And I think that people probably have an innate 1629 01:21:17,293 --> 01:21:22,173 interest in whether something like that happened elsewhere. 1630 01:21:22,257 --> 01:21:26,428 And the only way to settle that question, 1631 01:21:26,511 --> 01:21:28,263 of course, is to go look. 1632 01:21:29,556 --> 01:21:33,768 - I do think there is extraterrestrial intelligent life. 1633 01:21:34,853 --> 01:21:39,190 And more than one instance in our galaxy, 1634 01:21:39,274 --> 01:21:41,818 and certainly in our universe. 1635 01:21:42,652 --> 01:21:45,572 - [Robert Dixon] The universe is so vast 1636 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:49,576 and the Earth and the sun are not unique 1637 01:21:49,242 --> 01:21:51,119 in any way that we know of. 1638 01:21:51,202 --> 01:21:53,079 There are literally millions and billions 1639 01:21:52,746 --> 01:21:55,373 of other planets like the Earth. 1640 01:21:56,041 --> 01:21:59,753 It just seems scientifically improbable 1641 01:21:59,836 --> 01:22:02,422 that life would have emerged only here. 1642 01:22:02,505 --> 01:22:05,592 But on the other hand, someone has to be the first. 1643 01:22:05,675 --> 01:22:07,886 So maybe we are the first. 1644 01:22:07,969 --> 01:22:10,347 If so, it gives us a greater responsibility 1645 01:22:10,430 --> 01:22:12,974 to say, all right, we're the first, 1646 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,226 we better not destroy ourselves. 1647 01:22:14,768 --> 01:22:18,104 We better repopulate the universe 1648 01:22:17,604 --> 01:22:21,024 and make things better for everyone. 1649 01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:23,276 And not blow ourselves up in some stupid way. 1650 01:22:24,611 --> 01:22:29,157 - [Scott Gaudi] We desperately want meaning of some sort. 1651 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,409 We'd like to know why we're here. 1652 01:22:31,493 --> 01:22:33,370 Are we here just by random accident 1653 01:22:33,453 --> 01:22:35,830 or are we here on purpose? 1654 01:22:35,914 --> 01:22:39,668 We are trying to find context to our humanity. 1655 01:22:40,669 --> 01:22:42,754 - [Seth Shostak] It's really hard to predict 1656 01:22:42,837 --> 01:22:44,798 what the consequences of finding a signal, 1657 01:22:44,881 --> 01:22:46,132 proving that we're not alone. 1658 01:22:46,216 --> 01:22:48,259 What consequences that would have? 1659 01:22:48,343 --> 01:22:50,261 This would be sort of an inflection point, 1660 01:22:49,928 --> 01:22:52,180 a change in human civilization, 1661 01:22:51,596 --> 01:22:54,766 'cause we would know that somebody's out there. 1662 01:22:54,849 --> 01:22:57,268 If we could ever understand any part of the signal 1663 01:22:56,935 --> 01:22:58,520 that might change us much more, 1664 01:22:58,103 --> 01:23:00,730 because you would suddenly be privy 1665 01:23:00,397 --> 01:23:02,315 to knowledge that's most likely 1666 01:23:01,981 --> 01:23:04,234 far more advanced than our own. 1667 01:23:04,317 --> 01:23:06,361 So, you know, that could change everything. 1668 01:23:07,278 --> 01:23:09,739 - [Tom Burns] Think of the impact of it. 1669 01:23:10,365 --> 01:23:16,621 The entire world would be transformed 1670 01:23:18,248 --> 01:23:22,919 when each and every person on this planet realized 1671 01:23:23,003 --> 01:23:25,505 that we are not alone. 1672 01:23:26,673 --> 01:23:31,177 We live, sometimes, in a difficult, 1673 01:23:30,927 --> 01:23:34,055 ugly, violent world. 1674 01:23:35,015 --> 01:23:40,729 And you're looking for some solace from that. 1675 01:23:41,354 --> 01:23:44,399 And the one thing that 1676 01:23:44,482 --> 01:23:49,487 this search for extraterrestrial intelligence gives you 1677 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,741 is that kind of hope. 1678 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,618 We want this. 1679 01:23:56,911 --> 01:23:59,956 We want that sense, even more, 1680 01:23:59,622 --> 01:24:03,543 that we are capable of escaping 1681 01:24:03,001 --> 01:24:07,547 the tyranny of the gravity that holds us. 1682 01:24:07,630 --> 01:24:12,677 That we can soar outward into the universe. 1683 01:24:13,470 --> 01:24:15,263 And where do we find that? 1684 01:24:14,929 --> 01:24:18,224 In the hope, the faint hope, 1685 01:24:17,599 --> 01:24:23,355 that other civilizations have survived their crises, 1686 01:24:23,980 --> 01:24:26,399 been around for long enough 1687 01:24:26,483 --> 01:24:29,444 to be able to soar themselves. 1688 01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:32,364 We're lonely. 1689 01:24:35,533 --> 01:24:38,370 We want that sense 1690 01:24:40,288 --> 01:24:42,248 that we are not alone. 1691 01:24:44,459 --> 01:24:47,712 We want it so badly. 1692 01:24:50,548 --> 01:24:53,343 (tender music) 1693 01:26:13,757 --> 01:26:17,177 (inquisitive music) 136693

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