Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162
WWW.MY-SUBS.CO
1
00:00:41,038 --> 00:00:42,518
All rise.
2
00:00:51,198 --> 00:00:53,078
All rise.
3
00:01:15,158 --> 00:01:18,228
JOHN: In reviewing whether the decision
4
00:01:18,278 --> 00:01:22,988
to withdraw legal aid funding from
Sergeant Brian Meam was reasonable,
5
00:01:23,038 --> 00:01:25,517
Mr Justice Niven concluded that it was.
6
00:01:25,518 --> 00:01:30,119
Subsequently, the suitability
for Mr Justice Niven to sit in this case
7
00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,878
was called into question.
8
00:01:31,918 --> 00:01:36,118
So we are here to examine
whether his ruling should be set aside
9
00:01:36,119 --> 00:01:40,798
for bias or... apparent bias.
10
00:01:40,838 --> 00:01:44,828
Is the Legal Services Commission
not represented by counsel?
11
00:01:44,878 --> 00:01:50,108
Sir Peter Dulford and his junior
have been delayed.
12
00:01:50,158 --> 00:01:52,997
Sir Peter knew that he was required
to stand by for this hearing.
13
00:01:52,998 --> 00:01:54,798
It was unavoidable, sir.
14
00:01:54,838 --> 00:01:59,905
Well, then, it looks like this review
will be heard without his contribution.
15
00:01:59,945 --> 00:02:02,545
My Lord,
might I request an adjournment?
16
00:02:02,546 --> 00:02:03,829
And you are?
17
00:02:03,878 --> 00:02:07,117
Henry Door, solicitor
to the Legal Services Commission.
18
00:02:07,118 --> 00:02:09,197
Do you have any right of audience here,
Mr Door?
19
00:02:09,198 --> 00:02:10,628
No, I don't, sir.
20
00:02:10,678 --> 00:02:13,668
Then please sit down. Mrs Mills?
21
00:02:17,718 --> 00:02:22,478
Five years ago, two years after
he was diagnosed with neural deficit,
22
00:02:22,518 --> 00:02:25,877
Sergeant and Mrs Meam
were awarded a funding certificate
23
00:02:25,878 --> 00:02:27,878
from the then Legal Aid Board.
24
00:02:27,879 --> 00:02:30,268
This money was for research
25
00:02:30,318 --> 00:02:34,037
into the nature of his persistent and
worsening illness and the likely cause.
26
00:02:34,038 --> 00:02:37,268
It was also unbearably stressful
for both of them
27
00:02:37,318 --> 00:02:41,708
and their son David,
who became severely depressed.
28
00:02:41,758 --> 00:02:44,757
Two weeks ago, Sergeant Meam
had become so desperate
29
00:02:44,758 --> 00:02:47,559
he took his own life
and that of his child
30
00:02:47,609 --> 00:02:52,409
by driving the family car into a river
whilst they were both strapped in.
31
00:02:52,410 --> 00:02:56,708
Mrs Mills, we cannot accept
your assertion of the cause of death.
32
00:02:56,758 --> 00:03:00,068
That must be left to the coroner
to determine.
33
00:03:00,118 --> 00:03:01,788
Yes, of course, My Lord.
34
00:03:02,838 --> 00:03:05,988
Over this period, the Legal Aid Board,
35
00:03:06,038 --> 00:03:08,557
which became
the Legal Services Commission,
36
00:03:08,558 --> 00:03:11,158
wavered several times in their support,
37
00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:15,238
demanding more and more evidence,
twice suspending funding.
38
00:03:15,278 --> 00:03:18,718
Then in August,
they withdrew funding completely
39
00:03:18,758 --> 00:03:21,757
as this test case
was about to go to the High Court.
40
00:03:21,758 --> 00:03:24,277
- Was a reason given for this?
- Lack of evidence.
41
00:03:24,278 --> 00:03:27,957
The claim, in their view, hadn't
a better than 50$% chance of succeeding.
42
00:03:27,958 --> 00:03:30,028
But then we acquired evidence
43
00:03:30,078 --> 00:03:33,812
that the Association
of British Pharmaceutical Industries
44
00:03:33,813 --> 00:03:39,108
was putting pressure on the Government
to stop this trial from going forward.
45
00:03:39,158 --> 00:03:40,825
Was there a reason given?
46
00:03:40,826 --> 00:03:45,918
The basis was that the drugs involved
brought too much benefit as a whole.
47
00:03:45,958 --> 00:03:48,877
- Was this put to the LSC?
- They said it was inconclusive,
48
00:03:48,878 --> 00:03:52,678
and referred us to the earlier review
by Mr Justice Niven.
49
00:03:52,679 --> 00:03:57,028
Was Mr Justice Niven
aware of the new evidence?
50
00:03:57,078 --> 00:03:59,145
We didn't have it at that time.
51
00:04:00,198 --> 00:04:05,798
We're here to examine evidence of bias...
52
00:04:05,838 --> 00:04:08,148
and I'm going to do that
53
00:04:08,198 --> 00:04:13,668
in the context of the original arguments
of the merits of the case.
54
00:04:13,718 --> 00:04:17,385
My Lord, this is opening the way
to a full-scale review.
55
00:04:17,386 --> 00:04:20,453
Mr Door, you don't have
right of audience here.
56
00:04:22,038 --> 00:04:24,797
Any decision will be overturned
on appeal, Henry.
57
00:04:24,798 --> 00:04:28,532
Sir Michael Niven
would prefer not to risk it, Sir Peter.
58
00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:31,867
Then we'd better start running
to put out the fire.
59
00:04:38,518 --> 00:04:40,477
A civil servant
at the Department of Health
60
00:04:40,478 --> 00:04:42,677
contacted the solicitors
acting for Mrs Meam
61
00:04:42,678 --> 00:04:45,479
following the death
of her husband and son.
62
00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,558
He said that a meeting was held
63
00:04:47,598 --> 00:04:51,557
between Sir Percy Thrower, the Permanent
Secretary at the Home Office,
64
00:04:51,558 --> 00:04:54,948
his opposite number
at the Department of Health,
65
00:04:54,997 --> 00:04:57,597
and Samuel Butler,
the CEO of Caversham,
66
00:04:57,598 --> 00:05:00,988
the manufacturers
of the drugs given to soldiers.
67
00:05:01,038 --> 00:05:03,468
Are you calling this whistleblower?
68
00:05:03,518 --> 00:05:05,652
To do so would cost him his job.
69
00:05:09,718 --> 00:05:11,278
Ah, Sir Peter.
70
00:05:11,318 --> 00:05:12,828
My apologies, My Lord.
71
00:05:12,878 --> 00:05:16,197
The case we're in ran on, and this case
was listed at such short notice.
72
00:05:16,198 --> 00:05:18,597
You have argument for the court
in this review?
73
00:05:18,598 --> 00:05:20,065
We do indeed, My Lord.
74
00:05:20,078 --> 00:05:23,437
Good. Mrs Mills, do you want to
ow turn to your opening address?
75
00:05:23,438 --> 00:05:28,118
My Lord, with the utmost respect,
this application is about bias.
76
00:05:28,158 --> 00:05:30,797
The court cannot be concerned
with the substantive issues
77
00:05:30,798 --> 00:05:32,557
in the case judged by Mr Justice Niven.
78
00:05:32,558 --> 00:05:35,517
Without proper understanding
of the issues in the original case,
79
00:05:35,518 --> 00:05:39,518
we can't assess the impact
of the bias alleged in the review.
80
00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:42,586
No, My Lord,
that's exactly what you cannot do.
81
00:05:43,118 --> 00:05:46,238
I certainly can, Sir Peter.
82
00:05:49,198 --> 00:05:50,348
Mrs Mills.
83
00:05:59,318 --> 00:06:02,918
The Army has gone to great lengths
to reassure soldiers
84
00:06:02,958 --> 00:06:06,117
that no possible harm can come to them
by taking the drugs given to them
85
00:06:06,118 --> 00:06:10,398
to protect them
from attacks by bio-terrorists.
86
00:06:10,438 --> 00:06:13,878
Despite an increasing number
becoming sick,
87
00:06:13,918 --> 00:06:17,548
they are given no choice in the matter.
88
00:06:17,598 --> 00:06:19,957
And those falling ill
are not small in number.
89
00:06:19,958 --> 00:06:23,237
A small number relative to those
receiving the drugs, perhaps,
90
00:06:23,238 --> 00:06:25,877
but when a hitherto
fit and healthy soldier
91
00:06:25,878 --> 00:06:28,745
becomes a screaming,
head-banging depressive
92
00:06:28,746 --> 00:06:32,108
after receiving them,
questions need to be asked.
93
00:06:32,158 --> 00:06:34,228
It is our contention
94
00:06:34,278 --> 00:06:37,917
that neither the Government, the Army
or the pharmaceutical companies
95
00:06:37,918 --> 00:06:39,357
want those questions asked
96
00:06:39,358 --> 00:06:43,718
in case the answer is, yes,
those drugs do damage some soldiers.
97
00:06:43,758 --> 00:06:46,228
This entire avoidance of debate
98
00:06:46,278 --> 00:06:49,877
seems to hide the decision by the Army,
Government and drug companies
99
00:06:49,878 --> 00:06:53,478
to allow some soldiers to be
catastrophically damaged
100
00:06:53,518 --> 00:06:55,908
in favour of the common good.
101
00:06:55,958 --> 00:06:57,877
A recurring dilemma
for all governments.
102
00:06:57,878 --> 00:07:01,037
Brought sharply into focus
by the some becoming many.
103
00:07:01,038 --> 00:07:06,238
The incidence of neural deficit in the
armed forces is now at an all-time high.
104
00:07:06,278 --> 00:07:11,078
For Mrs Meam, whose husband may have
been fatally damaged by those drugs,
105
00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:14,359
there is no common good.
106
00:07:16,838 --> 00:07:20,505
It's late, Mrs Mills,
but your client's come a long way.
107
00:07:20,506 --> 00:07:23,307
Would you like to get started
with her now?
108
00:07:24,838 --> 00:07:28,972
Mrs Meam, can you tell the court
what happened to your husband?
109
00:07:35,118 --> 00:07:37,188
It's like I died that day.
110
00:07:46,838 --> 00:07:48,828
He drove them...
111
00:07:55,678 --> 00:07:57,158
He drove...
112
00:08:03,038 --> 00:08:05,398
He couldn't take it any more.
113
00:08:06,438 --> 00:08:08,638
Can you tell us what led to this?
114
00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:11,199
At first, he was...
115
00:08:12,558 --> 00:08:15,678
At first... after the drugs,
116
00:08:15,718 --> 00:08:19,188
when he came home on leave...
117
00:08:19,238 --> 00:08:21,748
he had sort of flu symptoms.
118
00:08:21,798 --> 00:08:24,998
He complained that he ached all over.
119
00:08:28,278 --> 00:08:32,348
He got a fever,
and quickly went downhill.
120
00:08:32,398 --> 00:08:34,932
So fast I thought he was going to die.
121
00:08:38,838 --> 00:08:43,468
He started banging his head
on the wall with the pain.
122
00:08:43,518 --> 00:08:46,108
All the while going down and down...
123
00:08:48,638 --> 00:08:50,708
He didn't ever come back up.
124
00:08:50,758 --> 00:08:53,148
Do you know what drugs he had?
125
00:08:53,198 --> 00:08:55,948
No. Well, not really.
126
00:08:55,998 --> 00:09:00,798
Brian had said how they were all lined up
in his regiment and given them.
127
00:09:00,838 --> 00:09:03,148
Five or six vaccinations together.
128
00:09:04,718 --> 00:09:06,948
It was all hush-hush.
129
00:09:06,998 --> 00:09:11,628
- What happened afterwards?
- After the flu-like symptoms...
130
00:09:11,678 --> 00:09:15,228
he came up in purple blotches...
131
00:09:16,798 --> 00:09:20,932
...then began to vomit. He couldn't
seem to keep anything down.
132
00:09:23,958 --> 00:09:25,758
He started screaming,
133
00:09:25,798 --> 00:09:29,598
a really high-pitched scream,
like he was in intense pain.
134
00:09:33,718 --> 00:09:38,708
Finally, when he lost consciousness,
he had to go into hospital.
135
00:09:42,158 --> 00:09:44,358
He was just different after that.
136
00:09:45,718 --> 00:09:47,678
He began to lose language.
137
00:09:49,438 --> 00:09:51,948
He never made eye contact.
138
00:09:53,518 --> 00:09:55,988
Sometimes he
didn't even recognise us.
139
00:09:59,838 --> 00:10:03,238
Did anyone say it might be
as a result of the drugs?
140
00:10:03,239 --> 00:10:04,838
No.
141
00:10:04,878 --> 00:10:07,077
They kept saying
it wasn't the drugs.
142
00:10:07,078 --> 00:10:09,278
But when we asked more questions,
143
00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:14,146
they couldn't seem to prove it wasn't
any more than we could prove it was.
144
00:10:19,478 --> 00:10:22,308
Dr Moon.
145
00:10:22,358 --> 00:10:24,478
Excuse me, Dr Moon.
146
00:10:24,518 --> 00:10:28,357
- I'm Mr Justice Deed's clerk.
- Yes, I saw you on the bench.
147
00:10:28,358 --> 00:10:30,625
Well, the judge would like a word.
148
00:10:30,626 --> 00:10:34,026
I can't see how that would benefit
either one of us.
149
00:10:45,038 --> 00:10:46,838
Judge.
150
00:10:48,798 --> 00:10:51,157
There are no prints
on the cigarette packet.
151
00:10:51,158 --> 00:10:54,837
- Not according to my friend in CID.
- How is that possible?
152
00:10:54,838 --> 00:10:57,717
He thinks it's been wiped.
It's the only way it could be so clean.
153
00:10:57,718 --> 00:11:01,117
Well, there were prints on it when
Superintendent Gaghan checked it.
154
00:11:01,118 --> 00:11:02,918
She said they were smudged.
155
00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:07,548
Inside the packet, on the foil,
he did find a partial print.
156
00:11:07,598 --> 00:11:09,317
Good enough for identification?
157
00:11:09,318 --> 00:11:12,237
They managed to get a lift
off three ridges of the right thumb.
158
00:11:12,238 --> 00:11:14,572
They matched a Major Richard Colby.
159
00:11:14,598 --> 00:11:16,878
JOHN: Oh, well done, Stephen.
160
00:11:16,918 --> 00:11:23,468
He's ex-SAS. Works for a security outfit
called Commercial Index.
161
00:11:23,518 --> 00:11:25,997
What sort of work
that I couldn't get his file?
162
00:11:25,998 --> 00:11:27,597
They're an investigative outfit.
163
00:11:27,598 --> 00:11:31,798
They work mostly for the Association
of British Pharmaceuticals,
164
00:11:31,848 --> 00:11:33,582
chasing down false claims.
165
00:11:33,583 --> 00:11:37,683
We'd better ask some more questions,
Stephen.
166
00:11:39,518 --> 00:11:40,998
IAN: Joe!
167
00:11:43,918 --> 00:11:49,278
I urge you - no, I beg you -
to withdraw from this case.
168
00:11:49,318 --> 00:11:53,652
It would save the Government
a lot of embarrassment. Deed as well.
169
00:11:53,653 --> 00:11:58,068
Justitia is traditionally portrayed
as blindfolded.
170
00:11:58,118 --> 00:12:02,878
The idea is that judges must not be
influenced by any irrelevancy,
171
00:12:02,918 --> 00:12:08,758
such as the personal embarrassment
of anybody, least of all the Government.
172
00:12:08,798 --> 00:12:13,238
We have put up with the eccentric
behaviour of your ex-son-in-law
173
00:12:13,278 --> 00:12:14,788
for too long.
174
00:12:14,838 --> 00:12:18,505
This is something the Government
will not tolerate, Joe.
175
00:12:18,518 --> 00:12:20,878
Too much is at stake.
176
00:12:20,918 --> 00:12:22,748
Meaning?
177
00:12:22,798 --> 00:12:24,388
I can say no more.
178
00:12:26,958 --> 00:12:30,398
- I'll have a word with him.
- Thank you, Joe.
179
00:12:30,438 --> 00:12:33,828
Thank you for your support, Joe.
180
00:12:33,878 --> 00:12:39,268
- It's still not a meeting of minds.
- Hopefully you'll change.
181
00:12:39,318 --> 00:12:42,918
I don't like to be bounced,
either by you or Rochester.
182
00:12:42,919 --> 00:12:47,118
He gave some pretty cryptic warnings
about this case.
183
00:12:47,158 --> 00:12:50,825
The stakes are too high
for the Government to let it go.
184
00:12:50,865 --> 00:12:53,024
- Does he have a plan to stop it?
- I don't know.
185
00:12:53,025 --> 00:12:57,398
Constitutionally, you're on thin ice.
186
00:12:57,438 --> 00:13:00,188
Be very, very careful.
187
00:13:04,118 --> 00:13:06,678
- Jo, he's gone.
- Who?
188
00:13:06,718 --> 00:13:08,548
Dr Hiaasen.
189
00:13:08,598 --> 00:13:10,828
What do you mean, gone? Where?
190
00:13:10,878 --> 00:13:14,677
I-I went to the hospital to
check his statement, and no doctor.
191
00:13:14,678 --> 00:13:16,837
Did they say when he'll be back,
where he's gone?
192
00:13:16,838 --> 00:13:20,372
- No-one seemed to know.
- He's our one solid witness.
193
00:13:20,422 --> 00:13:23,889
- Did you try his home?
- I've tried all his numbers.
194
00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:27,198
No, no, no, Peter!
You have to go to his home.
195
00:13:27,238 --> 00:13:31,572
Without him, we're lost before
we've even started. I'll try Liffe.
196
00:13:31,573 --> 00:13:34,840
He might just know.
He put us onto him. Peter, go!
197
00:13:44,438 --> 00:13:46,078
Dr Liffe? It's Jo Mills.
198
00:13:46,118 --> 00:13:48,028
Oh, Mrs Mills. I can't talk.
199
00:13:48,078 --> 00:13:51,812
- We can't seem to contact Dr Hiaasen.
- Sorry. I'm busy.
200
00:13:51,813 --> 00:13:55,013
(LINE GOES DEAD)
201
00:14:03,078 --> 00:14:06,357
- Dr Liffe, we have to talk.
- Get away from me, Mrs Mills.
202
00:14:06,358 --> 00:14:08,077
- Just get away.
- Why? What has happened?
203
00:14:08,078 --> 00:14:10,317
Don't you live in the real world?
It's all over the news.
204
00:14:10,318 --> 00:14:12,517
- Dr Hiaasen has killed himself.
- What?
205
00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:14,948
I only talked with him yesterday.
206
00:14:14,998 --> 00:14:18,437
He was furious that people who matter
knew he was giving evidence in your case.
207
00:14:18,438 --> 00:14:19,572
How? What people?
208
00:14:21,118 --> 00:14:25,652
He tied a cord around a tree
and around his neck and then drove away.
209
00:14:25,653 --> 00:14:28,323
I can't help you any more. Go away.
210
00:14:28,638 --> 00:14:30,598
That's the same as Dr Dayvis.
211
00:14:30,638 --> 00:14:34,172
You should watch what you say
on the phone, Mrs Mills.
212
00:14:41,718 --> 00:14:43,868
- Hey.
- Hey.
213
00:14:45,598 --> 00:14:47,268
Thank you.
214
00:14:47,318 --> 00:14:49,878
Are you taking your work home?
215
00:14:49,918 --> 00:14:52,397
Taking it to my dad
to ask him for some help!
216
00:14:52,398 --> 00:14:54,932
- Have you got something?
- Mmm, a job.
217
00:14:54,933 --> 00:14:58,508
- Prosecuting a big DWP fraud in Bristol.
- Wow.
218
00:14:58,558 --> 00:15:01,868
- Who's your leader?
- No-one. It's my own case.
219
00:15:01,918 --> 00:15:04,118
The CPS approached you?
220
00:15:04,158 --> 00:15:05,828
It can happen, Dad.
221
00:15:05,878 --> 00:15:08,758
Yes. Yeah, sure.
222
00:15:08,798 --> 00:15:10,548
(PHONE RINGS)
223
00:15:10,598 --> 00:15:12,318
Hi.
224
00:15:12,358 --> 00:15:15,558
- Do you know who this is?
- Has my luck changed?
225
00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:16,868
Can we meet?
226
00:15:16,918 --> 00:15:19,385
I thought you said
that was too risky.
227
00:15:19,386 --> 00:15:23,616
More so now. This is urgent.
Meet you in the usual place.
228
00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:26,908
Is something wrong, Dad?
229
00:15:26,958 --> 00:15:29,628
No.
230
00:15:29,678 --> 00:15:31,478
- Proof?
- Come on, John!
231
00:15:31,518 --> 00:15:33,668
He was about to give evidence.
232
00:15:33,718 --> 00:15:37,398
Without him, you haven't got
much of a case, have you?
233
00:15:37,438 --> 00:15:40,477
Summons Dr Liffe.
Question him on Hiaasen's statement.
234
00:15:40,478 --> 00:15:42,597
You've got to get somebody to testify
235
00:15:42,598 --> 00:15:45,037
that the drugs given to Brian Meam
could have harmed him.
236
00:15:45,038 --> 00:15:47,917
Otherwise the decision
to withdraw funding looks reasonable.
237
00:15:47,918 --> 00:15:50,388
Liffe won't talk. He's too spooked.
238
00:15:50,438 --> 00:15:53,797
You know that those two scientists
didn't commit suicide, and so do I.
239
00:15:53,798 --> 00:15:55,998
- Yes.
- Yes.
240
00:15:56,038 --> 00:15:59,038
I'll get the police report
on Hiaasen's death.
241
00:16:05,078 --> 00:16:07,988
- Sir Ian Rochester, Judge.
- Thanks, Coop.
242
00:16:13,798 --> 00:16:17,918
We understand Mrs Mills's
principal witness has killed himself
243
00:16:17,958 --> 00:16:20,825
and that you've asked
for the police report.
244
00:16:20,826 --> 00:16:24,748
Don't you find Dr Hiaasen's death
just a little bit odd?
245
00:16:24,798 --> 00:16:27,918
He was under enormous stress.
246
00:16:27,958 --> 00:16:29,548
- Sorry.
- No, no, no.
247
00:16:31,118 --> 00:16:34,397
Oh, no doubt the lunatic fringe,
led by Mrs Mills and her cohorts,
248
00:16:34,398 --> 00:16:36,388
will see a conspiracy.
249
00:16:36,438 --> 00:16:38,837
It was exactly the same method
as Dr Dayvis's death.
250
00:16:38,838 --> 00:16:40,797
Doesn't that bear investigation?
251
00:16:40,798 --> 00:16:43,437
You can't believe the Government
or the pharmaceutical industry
252
00:16:43,438 --> 00:16:45,317
had anything to do with
Dr Hiaasen's death?
253
00:16:45,318 --> 00:16:49,157
I can believe the Government has done
a secret deal to relax regulations
254
00:16:49,158 --> 00:16:52,357
in exchange for co-operative work
on bio-terrorism vaccines.
255
00:16:52,358 --> 00:16:57,197
I can believe that they would go to
extraordinary lengths to keep that secret.
256
00:16:57,198 --> 00:17:00,238
- That sounds rather far-fetched.
- Does it?
257
00:17:00,278 --> 00:17:02,918
Be that as it may, there is no question
258
00:17:02,958 --> 00:17:08,558
that Michael Niven's decision can be
invalidated for reasons of apparent bias.
259
00:17:08,598 --> 00:17:11,428
Oh, I thought I was the judge.
260
00:17:11,478 --> 00:17:13,548
My Lord.
261
00:17:13,598 --> 00:17:16,668
As you're so well informed, Ian,
you must know
262
00:17:16,718 --> 00:17:19,717
that I've summoned the head of
the Legal Services Commission in Bristol
263
00:17:19,718 --> 00:17:21,797
to enquire on what basis
it withdrew funding.
264
00:17:21,798 --> 00:17:24,388
If I don't get a satisfactory answer,
265
00:17:24,438 --> 00:17:27,317
I will summon the head
of the Department of Health,
266
00:17:27,318 --> 00:17:29,997
of Defence, of the Home Office
and all their ministers,
267
00:17:29,998 --> 00:17:34,265
right up to the Prime Minister himself,
but I will get the truth.
268
00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:37,598
You could create such a crisis
269
00:17:37,638 --> 00:17:40,757
that credibility in the courts
could become precarious.
270
00:17:40,758 --> 00:17:42,637
Your motives will
simply not be understood.
271
00:17:42,638 --> 00:17:47,172
Yes, and in the meanwhile,
I will have the police and medical reports
272
00:17:47,173 --> 00:17:48,640
on Dr Hiaasen's death.
273
00:17:50,158 --> 00:17:54,708
I ask you again, on what basis
did you withdraw funding?
274
00:17:54,758 --> 00:17:57,988
Insufficient evidence
that the case was winnable.
275
00:17:58,038 --> 00:18:00,837
Prior to that decision,
you had been funding the action?
276
00:18:00,838 --> 00:18:05,438
- Yes, sir. Since the late '90s.
- Believing the case to be winnable?
277
00:18:05,478 --> 00:18:07,837
Well, not after the death
of Dr Rupert Dayvis.
278
00:18:07,838 --> 00:18:10,118
He was the leading researcher.
279
00:18:10,158 --> 00:18:12,477
In the absence of anyone of his calibre,
280
00:18:12,478 --> 00:18:16,478
all we had to rely on was the opinion
of the independent bar.
281
00:18:16,528 --> 00:18:21,195
As you know, sir, barristers often
get the job once they've advised us.
282
00:18:21,196 --> 00:18:24,758
Was Mrs Mills less than honest
in her assessment?
283
00:18:24,798 --> 00:18:26,665
No, sir. She was very frank.
284
00:18:26,666 --> 00:18:30,158
Then what led you to reassess the case,
Mr Cherry?
285
00:18:30,198 --> 00:18:33,028
We do from time to time, sir.
286
00:18:33,078 --> 00:18:36,278
Something specifically prompted this.
287
00:18:39,678 --> 00:18:43,118
Mr Door,
are you instructing this witness?
288
00:18:43,158 --> 00:18:46,118
My Lord, this is most irregular.
289
00:18:46,158 --> 00:18:49,517
Yes, please forgive me, Sir Peter.
It's the influence of the Hague.
290
00:18:49,518 --> 00:18:53,252
I'm allowed to conduct things
differently there. Mr Door?
291
00:18:54,398 --> 00:18:56,828
No, I'm not instructing the witness.
292
00:18:56,878 --> 00:18:58,388
Good. Mr Cherry?
293
00:19:00,278 --> 00:19:02,145
The answer's not over there.
294
00:19:05,558 --> 00:19:08,158
CHERRY: Well, sir, there was a request.
295
00:19:08,159 --> 00:19:09,508
Ah.
296
00:19:09,558 --> 00:19:12,148
From whom?
297
00:19:13,758 --> 00:19:16,958
- A Government department.
- Well, don't tell me.
298
00:19:16,959 --> 00:19:18,959
Let me guess. The Home Office?
299
00:19:20,278 --> 00:19:24,588
You don't have to answer
this witness summons, Percy.
300
00:19:24,638 --> 00:19:28,477
If I don't, Rochester thinks
Deed will put me in jail for contempt.
301
00:19:28,478 --> 00:19:30,197
Now, there's a wonderful irony.
302
00:19:30,198 --> 00:19:33,277
The head of the Home Office Civil Service
in one of our own jails!
303
00:19:33,278 --> 00:19:34,717
Not an edifying prospect.
304
00:19:34,718 --> 00:19:37,477
Pity our Civil Contingencies
amendment bill isn't done and dusted.
305
00:19:37,478 --> 00:19:40,212
It wouldn't matter then what Deed learns.
306
00:19:40,213 --> 00:19:42,558
Should I go, Home Secretary?
307
00:19:42,598 --> 00:19:46,478
Ah, it's either that or Australia, Percy.
308
00:19:48,878 --> 00:19:51,598
Not transportation.
309
00:19:51,638 --> 00:19:55,548
A fact-finding trip to...
Tasmania, perhaps?
310
00:19:55,598 --> 00:19:58,532
I think I'd rather take
my chances with Deed.
311
00:19:58,533 --> 00:20:00,078
Stall him, Percy.
312
00:20:00,118 --> 00:20:05,118
I'll speak to the Leader of the House,
see if we can get a rush on our bill.
313
00:20:18,318 --> 00:20:22,868
- You.
- Dr Moon, I really need to talk to you.
314
00:20:22,918 --> 00:20:26,548
I don't have to.
Don't you know what's happened again?
315
00:20:28,198 --> 00:20:30,478
Can I come in, please?
316
00:20:32,838 --> 00:20:35,438
(WHISPERS) I don't want to talk inside.
317
00:20:42,998 --> 00:20:45,588
Has anyone threatened you?
318
00:20:45,638 --> 00:20:48,108
No-one needs to threaten me.
319
00:20:48,158 --> 00:20:50,988
I'm forever looking
over my shoulder,
320
00:20:51,038 --> 00:20:54,717
wondering about the woman buying
a newspaper, the man sitting in the car...
321
00:20:54,718 --> 00:20:58,585
I guard my phone conversations
in case anyone is listening.
322
00:20:58,586 --> 00:21:00,656
Is that why you wanted to walk?
323
00:21:02,358 --> 00:21:05,988
Sometimes I just can't bear
being enclosed.
324
00:21:06,038 --> 00:21:09,268
Whatever it is you want,
I can't help you!
325
00:21:09,318 --> 00:21:10,828
I think you can.
326
00:21:10,878 --> 00:21:13,758
I think that's why you came to my court.
327
00:21:13,798 --> 00:21:17,158
How many deaths will it take to stop you?
328
00:21:19,118 --> 00:21:23,988
I've seen the police report to the coroner
on Dr Hiaasen's death.
329
00:21:24,038 --> 00:21:27,478
It clearly suggests suicide.
330
00:21:27,518 --> 00:21:30,958
He was heavily in debt from gambling.
331
00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:33,038
Well, I won't believe that.
332
00:21:33,078 --> 00:21:36,012
Peter Hiaasen was too careful
ever to gamble.
333
00:21:36,038 --> 00:21:38,348
And Dr Dayvis?
334
00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:40,132
How well did you know him?
335
00:21:41,598 --> 00:21:43,718
We saw each other every day.
336
00:21:45,598 --> 00:21:47,265
Do you have access to...?
337
00:21:47,266 --> 00:21:49,988
No, I can't help you. I can't!
338
00:21:50,038 --> 00:21:52,918
You have the information.
339
00:21:52,958 --> 00:21:55,825
- That's why you came to court.
- No, you...
340
00:21:55,826 --> 00:21:59,148
You people, you don't care.
341
00:21:59,198 --> 00:22:03,268
Look, I can't help you.
342
00:22:03,318 --> 00:22:06,998
All right. I'll find another way.
343
00:22:07,038 --> 00:22:10,998
Sir Percy, do you know
why you were summoned?
344
00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:13,428
I understand to answer questions
345
00:22:13,478 --> 00:22:17,037
about the Home Office's
planned response to bio-terrorism.
346
00:22:17,038 --> 00:22:20,508
Have you been intimately involved
in planning that?
347
00:22:20,558 --> 00:22:22,077
As head of the Home Office Civil Service,
348
00:22:22,078 --> 00:22:23,837
it's part of my overall responsibility,
yes.
349
00:22:23,838 --> 00:22:27,477
It's a bit more than that, Sir Percy.
You were instrumental
350
00:22:27,478 --> 00:22:30,357
in drafting the Home Office's
Civil Contingencies Act.
351
00:22:30,358 --> 00:22:31,998
I had a hand in it.
352
00:22:32,038 --> 00:22:35,437
- Dealing with pharmaceutical companies.
- I didn't write the amendment bill.
353
00:22:35,438 --> 00:22:38,597
But you did call the Bristol
Legal Services Commission,
354
00:22:38,598 --> 00:22:42,077
suggesting they withdraw the funding
for Brian Meam to sue the drugs company?
355
00:22:42,078 --> 00:22:44,278
No. I do not believe I did.
356
00:22:44,318 --> 00:22:48,868
According to the manager there,
someone in the Home Office did.
357
00:22:48,918 --> 00:22:50,437
PERCY: It's a large department.
358
00:22:50,438 --> 00:22:52,997
For which you have
overall responsibility.
359
00:22:52,998 --> 00:22:55,038
But I don't task every action.
360
00:22:55,078 --> 00:22:57,545
Then who did, and on whose authority?
361
00:23:00,558 --> 00:23:02,548
Well, Sir Percy?
362
00:23:02,598 --> 00:23:04,398
I don't recall that detail.
363
00:23:04,399 --> 00:23:08,558
Fine. Then I'll give you time
to think about it.
364
00:23:08,598 --> 00:23:12,908
Meanwhile, Mrs Mills and Sir Peter
will examine you. Mrs Mills?
365
00:23:14,198 --> 00:23:19,798
What is the Home Office's provisional
budget to counter bio-terrorism?
366
00:23:19,838 --> 00:23:22,038
I don't have the figures to hand.
367
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:23,068
Roughly?
368
00:23:23,118 --> 00:23:27,428
In the region of 4 billion.
369
00:23:27,478 --> 00:23:30,412
- To vaccinate everyone in the country?
- No.
370
00:23:30,413 --> 00:23:33,828
The money is given
to the Health Protection Agency
371
00:23:33,878 --> 00:23:35,677
to work with pharmaceutical companies.
372
00:23:35,678 --> 00:23:40,038
Bio-warfare vaccines
are part of our overall policy plan.
373
00:23:40,078 --> 00:23:45,518
That must make you an awfully good friend
to the big pharmaceutical companies.
374
00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:47,517
My Lord, although Sir Percy
is not my witness,
375
00:23:47,518 --> 00:23:50,268
I do in fairness protest on his behalf.
376
00:23:50,318 --> 00:23:53,557
My learned friend is implying a venal
relationship. I'm sure none exists.
377
00:23:53,558 --> 00:23:55,678
Mrs Mills,
378
00:23:55,718 --> 00:24:01,718
you are allowing your enthusiasm to carry
you beyond the boundaries of this case.
379
00:24:03,278 --> 00:24:05,838
I have no further questions.
380
00:24:05,878 --> 00:24:07,228
Sir Peter.
381
00:24:09,518 --> 00:24:13,185
Sir Percy, what is the annual budget
of the Home Office?
382
00:24:13,186 --> 00:24:17,118
- About 14 billion.
- Which you spend personally?
383
00:24:17,158 --> 00:24:19,908
(LAUGHTER)
384
00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:23,318
Let's get these astronomical sums
in context.
385
00:24:23,358 --> 00:24:26,997
How much do you spend annually on prisons,
to protect the public from offenders?
386
00:24:26,998 --> 00:24:28,188
2.6 billion.
387
00:24:28,238 --> 00:24:30,708
So then 4 billion to be spent
388
00:24:30,758 --> 00:24:34,308
protecting the whole of the nation
against bio-warfare
389
00:24:34,358 --> 00:24:35,918
doesn't seem so much.
390
00:24:35,958 --> 00:24:39,492
- No, that's jolly good value.
- Thank you, Sir Percy.
391
00:24:41,918 --> 00:24:45,518
Memory improved?
392
00:24:45,558 --> 00:24:49,628
We have 15,000 employees
at the Home Office.
393
00:24:49,678 --> 00:24:51,988
For whom you have responsibility.
394
00:24:52,038 --> 00:24:56,238
Including the cleaners.
I don't remember all their names either.
395
00:24:56,678 --> 00:25:02,068
Only a handful of people
could have instructed Mr Cherry.
396
00:25:02,118 --> 00:25:04,518
Probably a member of your committee?
397
00:25:05,958 --> 00:25:08,628
No one candidate comes to mind?
398
00:25:08,678 --> 00:25:12,545
- I'm afraid not.
- Then step down. We'll recall Mr Cherry.
399
00:25:12,585 --> 00:25:15,919
- Remain in court.
- I do have a department to run.
400
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,323
You'll leave when we get
satisfactory answers.
401
00:25:21,958 --> 00:25:24,825
Mr Cherry, please
return to the witness box.
402
00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:35,108
Remember, you are still under oath.
403
00:25:37,478 --> 00:25:39,948
Who at the Home Office called you
404
00:25:39,998 --> 00:25:45,438
to suggest you withdraw legal aid
from Brian Meam?
405
00:25:45,478 --> 00:25:47,212
Well, I don't recall, sir.
406
00:25:48,438 --> 00:25:53,228
Mr Cherry, you are coming
perilously close to prison.
407
00:25:56,038 --> 00:26:00,238
No, sir,
I'm not sure he identified himself.
408
00:26:00,278 --> 00:26:03,878
What, you took instruction
from an unidentified caller?
409
00:26:03,879 --> 00:26:06,599
Can you really be such a ninny?
410
00:26:17,558 --> 00:26:19,788
His name is Lex Wetcote.
411
00:26:19,838 --> 00:26:24,278
Ah. Not a name easily forgotten.
412
00:26:24,318 --> 00:26:28,308
Sir Percy, do you know this person?
413
00:26:28,358 --> 00:26:30,837
He's an undersecretary
with the directorate.
414
00:26:30,838 --> 00:26:33,172
And what is that, in plain English?
415
00:26:33,173 --> 00:26:35,998
- He runs a few committees.
- On what?
416
00:26:36,038 --> 00:26:39,028
Health policy, civil defence.
417
00:26:39,078 --> 00:26:41,388
Certain aspects of bio-terrorism.
418
00:26:43,198 --> 00:26:46,748
Then we'll get Mr Wetcote here,
question him.
419
00:26:46,798 --> 00:26:50,677
And if I find he's been sent
to New Zealand or some such place,
420
00:26:50,678 --> 00:26:52,012
there'll be trouble.
421
00:26:52,013 --> 00:26:54,348
Might I be permitted to leave now?
422
00:26:54,398 --> 00:26:57,868
No. We will rise
and await Mr Wetcote's arrival.
423
00:26:59,438 --> 00:27:01,108
All rise.
424
00:27:02,318 --> 00:27:04,757
Oh, Judge, I thought you were
going to throw them in jail!
425
00:27:04,758 --> 00:27:07,228
I came close, Coop.
426
00:27:09,518 --> 00:27:10,998
Thank you.
427
00:27:12,798 --> 00:27:15,548
They do serve excellent tea here.
428
00:27:17,918 --> 00:27:20,478
You seem remarkably relaxed.
429
00:27:20,518 --> 00:27:23,785
I'm confident that you
can deal with things, Neil.
430
00:27:23,786 --> 00:27:25,388
Deed is insisting on me.
431
00:27:25,438 --> 00:27:29,705
Maybe we should wait till
he drags you off in irons. If he dares.
432
00:27:30,958 --> 00:27:35,588
Can you put your Civil Contingencies
amendment bill to bed?
433
00:27:35,638 --> 00:27:37,797
It's back to the Commons on Thursday.
434
00:27:37,798 --> 00:27:41,437
- That's the earliest we could fit it in.
- Will it go through unimpeded?
435
00:27:41,438 --> 00:27:43,917
No-one's raised any objections
to any of the sections.
436
00:27:43,918 --> 00:27:46,478
MPs are spooked by terrorist threats.
437
00:27:46,518 --> 00:27:49,318
It's a formality, Samuel.
438
00:27:49,358 --> 00:27:52,348
After that, Deed's efforts
are meaningless.
439
00:27:52,398 --> 00:27:54,598
Ah, Deed, yes.
440
00:27:54,638 --> 00:27:58,437
Well, my researchers assure me
that we have nothing to fear from Deed.
441
00:27:58,438 --> 00:28:01,172
He had sex with the claimant's barrister.
442
00:28:01,173 --> 00:28:04,558
That's happened many times.
443
00:28:04,598 --> 00:28:06,718
But it's not allowed, is it?
444
00:28:06,758 --> 00:28:09,958
We've been there before, Samuel.
445
00:28:09,998 --> 00:28:12,358
- It didn't dent him.
- No.
446
00:28:12,398 --> 00:28:15,388
You've been there before
without evidence.
447
00:28:16,958 --> 00:28:19,598
Ten days ago, in Mills's apartment.
448
00:28:19,638 --> 00:28:22,477
They talked about Justice Niven's
handling of the case,
449
00:28:22,478 --> 00:28:25,388
how compelling her evidence had to be.
450
00:28:25,438 --> 00:28:28,572
And then the Beast of The Strand
got his reward.
451
00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:44,068
Mr Wetcote,
why is a Home Office undersecretary
452
00:28:44,118 --> 00:28:47,828
concerning himself
with funding in a civil action?
453
00:28:47,878 --> 00:28:50,212
It's joined-up government, My Lord.
454
00:28:50,238 --> 00:28:54,839
Our experience in criminal justice
makes us realise that courts of law
455
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,280
are not good places to settle
highly contentious, big-money cases.
456
00:29:00,158 --> 00:29:05,438
You felt it your duty to withdraw funding
that had been running for years
457
00:29:05,478 --> 00:29:07,478
with the case almost to court?
458
00:29:07,528 --> 00:29:09,607
The withdrawal of funding
wasn't my decision.
459
00:29:09,608 --> 00:29:14,468
I saw a potential saving and invited
consideration of my suggestions.
460
00:29:14,518 --> 00:29:16,957
Without consulting
anyone in your department?
461
00:29:16,958 --> 00:29:18,838
It was my initiative.
462
00:29:18,878 --> 00:29:23,028
Do you know, Mr Wetcote,
I don't think I believe you.
463
00:29:23,078 --> 00:29:27,388
Mrs Mills, would you like to
examine this witness?
464
00:29:27,438 --> 00:29:29,108
JO: My Lord.
465
00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:32,292
The pharmaceutical companies
that are developing
466
00:29:32,293 --> 00:29:35,118
the 4 billion bio-terrorist vaccines,
467
00:29:35,158 --> 00:29:40,277
are they also making the drugs that the
Army is giving to its combat personnel?
468
00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:42,957
The Government has a well-developed
policy for drug procurement.
469
00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:45,677
Inevitably, Caversham
are involved in both elements.
470
00:29:45,678 --> 00:29:49,077
Did you have a conversation with someone
about preventing Caversham being sued?
471
00:29:49,078 --> 00:29:51,677
I don't remember talking to anyone
specifically about that.
472
00:29:51,678 --> 00:29:53,638
Unless I did it in my sleep.
473
00:29:53,678 --> 00:29:57,478
Are you in the habit of talking
in your sleep, Mr Wetcote?
474
00:29:57,479 --> 00:30:02,279
No. Nor of sleeping with people
I have an ethical duty not to sleep with.
475
00:30:11,358 --> 00:30:12,998
Mr Wetcote...
476
00:30:14,558 --> 00:30:18,558
I would like you to bring to court
all the papers and e-mails
477
00:30:18,598 --> 00:30:22,665
that have passed between you
and the pharmaceutical companies.
478
00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:25,838
And I mean all of them.
479
00:30:25,878 --> 00:30:28,238
- That's a mountain of paper.
- Yes.
480
00:30:28,278 --> 00:30:32,357
Then let's hope the Home Office
spends wisely on its haulage firm.
481
00:30:32,358 --> 00:30:35,077
My Lord, I know the hour is late,
but might I examine this witness?
482
00:30:35,078 --> 00:30:38,708
There will be ample time
for all of us tomorrow.
483
00:30:38,758 --> 00:30:40,238
All rise.
484
00:30:43,278 --> 00:30:45,078
This is madness, Percy.
485
00:30:45,118 --> 00:30:47,678
We can't show some of those memos.
486
00:30:47,718 --> 00:30:49,148
Of course we can.
487
00:30:50,598 --> 00:30:54,532
Mrs Mills, Sir Peter,
the judge wonders if you can join him.
488
00:30:54,533 --> 00:30:58,467
I certainly can't. Apologies.
I'm frightfully late as it is.
489
00:31:01,638 --> 00:31:03,305
Sir Peter regrets, Judge.
490
00:31:03,318 --> 00:31:05,318
He's late for another meeting.
491
00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:07,268
Ah.
492
00:31:07,318 --> 00:31:10,585
In that case you'd best stay,
Coop, ave some tea.
493
00:31:10,586 --> 00:31:11,518
Thank you.
494
00:31:11,558 --> 00:31:15,788
I don't know how much longer
we can let this continue, Jo.
495
00:31:15,838 --> 00:31:20,557
That was to have been the nature of my
conversation with you and Peter Dulford.
496
00:31:20,558 --> 00:31:22,277
You can guess where he's gone.
497
00:31:22,278 --> 00:31:23,877
Yeah. To take instructions.
498
00:31:23,878 --> 00:31:26,677
To make sure the Home Office resists
bringing any papers into the court.
499
00:31:26,678 --> 00:31:29,668
Especially those suggesting complicity.
500
00:31:29,718 --> 00:31:33,637
You know there is. Just as you know
that man's death wasn't coincidental.
501
00:31:33,638 --> 00:31:37,477
Not unless you could show it.
Peter Dulford will argue that first thing.
502
00:31:37,478 --> 00:31:40,197
I feel like I'm choking
on the injustice of it.
503
00:31:40,198 --> 00:31:43,037
What about Liffe? Won't he help?
We can offer him protection.
504
00:31:43,038 --> 00:31:44,677
I don't think that will convince him.
505
00:31:44,678 --> 00:31:46,717
What I need are Dr Dayvis's papers.
506
00:31:46,718 --> 00:31:49,637
I can only pray that they turn up
with the Home Office papers.
507
00:31:49,638 --> 00:31:52,477
Unless I know they have a copy,
I can't ask for them.
508
00:31:52,478 --> 00:31:55,917
Well, perhaps Sir Percy Thrower
will let something slip.
509
00:31:55,918 --> 00:32:00,198
Like the Civil Contingencies
amendment bill that he didn't write.
510
00:32:00,238 --> 00:32:01,997
- What amendment?
- Don't ask me.
511
00:32:01,998 --> 00:32:04,917
I'm struggling to keep up with
the criminal justice legislation
512
00:32:04,918 --> 00:32:06,557
spilling out of the Home Office.
513
00:32:06,558 --> 00:32:10,677
As I have to say are most barristers.
600 new crimes in ten years!
514
00:32:10,678 --> 00:32:12,812
Check the website, Coop, please.
515
00:32:12,852 --> 00:32:15,252
We were briefed on the original act.
516
00:32:15,292 --> 00:32:17,998
It imposes duties on local authorities
517
00:32:18,038 --> 00:32:20,998
in the event of a breakdown
in public order
518
00:32:21,038 --> 00:32:23,868
following an event like bio-terrorism.
519
00:32:23,918 --> 00:32:27,118
What is the add-on plan?
Put everybody in prison?
520
00:32:27,158 --> 00:32:28,798
It's 38 pages, Judge.
521
00:32:28,838 --> 00:32:31,238
- We just need the amendment.
- Yeah.
522
00:32:31,239 --> 00:32:35,229
- 54 sections and loads of schedules.
- Oh, great(!)
523
00:32:36,838 --> 00:32:38,318
Thanks, Coop.
524
00:32:41,958 --> 00:32:43,918
JOHN: Section 27 -
525
00:32:43,958 --> 00:32:46,758
Schedule 3.
Extension of Crown immunity.
526
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:49,838
Any organisation, private or public,
527
00:32:49,878 --> 00:32:54,948
designated by the minister
as within the terms of Section 42.1.
528
00:33:01,158 --> 00:33:05,492
Pharmaceutical production and
development? Why are they protected?
529
00:33:05,493 --> 00:33:08,318
They make bio-terrorism vaccines.
530
00:33:08,358 --> 00:33:10,477
You know what this means, don't you?
531
00:33:10,478 --> 00:33:12,557
They can't be sued
if the vaccines go wrong.
532
00:33:12,558 --> 00:33:13,825
No. More than that.
533
00:33:13,838 --> 00:33:17,237
If it goes through like this,
it will have retrospective action.
534
00:33:17,238 --> 00:33:22,117
You won't ever be able to sue Caversham
or any other pharmaceutical company.
535
00:33:22,118 --> 00:33:24,237
But then why has no-one ever protested?
536
00:33:24,238 --> 00:33:27,677
Because it's hidden away,
seemingly innocuous. This is momentous.
537
00:33:27,678 --> 00:33:30,717
If this bill goes through like this
on Thursday, you're dead in the water.
538
00:33:30,718 --> 00:33:32,452
The Lords will hold it up.
539
00:33:32,453 --> 00:33:36,958
It's already been through
its committee stages there, Mrs Mills.
540
00:33:36,998 --> 00:33:40,197
- John, they can't get away with this.
- Well, they did in America.
541
00:33:40,198 --> 00:33:44,532
They slipped just such a clause
into the Homeland Securities Bill.
542
00:33:46,038 --> 00:33:48,838
Find a witness, prove your case.
543
00:33:48,878 --> 00:33:52,788
I'll try to hold up the passage
of the bill from the court.
544
00:33:54,398 --> 00:33:56,548
No, no. It can't be done.
545
00:33:56,598 --> 00:33:58,318
A step too far.
546
00:33:58,358 --> 00:34:01,108
We'd be thwarting the will of Parliament.
547
00:34:01,158 --> 00:34:06,158
That would cause a constitutional crisis
the like of which has not been seen
548
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:09,668
since... since the Reformation!
549
00:34:09,718 --> 00:34:13,077
That's how important this is.
The loss of the right of one individual
550
00:34:13,078 --> 00:34:16,757
to seek redress through the courts
with thousands of possible cases pending.
551
00:34:16,758 --> 00:34:21,359
Protection against a corporately arrogant
executive is that important.
552
00:34:21,598 --> 00:34:23,348
Yes, well...
553
00:34:23,398 --> 00:34:25,388
The case has to be solid.
554
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,588
Help me with this one, Joe.
555
00:34:27,638 --> 00:34:31,905
There's still plenty of good law
to stop a development like this.
556
00:34:32,518 --> 00:34:34,828
We must check the evidence.
557
00:34:37,318 --> 00:34:39,468
Got to go.
558
00:34:39,878 --> 00:34:41,758
(LAUGHTER)
559
00:34:41,798 --> 00:34:45,508
Neil. What are you doing?
I thought you were coming up.
560
00:34:45,558 --> 00:34:51,078
I'm listening to your ex
dig his own grave, judicially speaking.
561
00:34:51,118 --> 00:34:53,588
What?
562
00:34:53,638 --> 00:34:55,518
Let me hear.
563
00:34:58,038 --> 00:35:01,508
Wait... There.
564
00:35:06,278 --> 00:35:07,788
Is it real?
565
00:35:07,838 --> 00:35:09,318
I don't believe it.
566
00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:12,717
Oh, George, it's real,
as real and happening as can be!
567
00:35:12,718 --> 00:35:15,108
What are you going to do with it?
568
00:35:15,158 --> 00:35:16,748
The most harm possible.
569
00:35:20,678 --> 00:35:23,108
(PHONE RINGS)
570
00:35:25,158 --> 00:35:26,638
How's your case?
571
00:35:26,678 --> 00:35:28,318
Big and getting bigger.
572
00:35:28,358 --> 00:35:30,625
I got your message. Why so secret?
573
00:35:30,665 --> 00:35:33,304
- I don't want to risk the phone.
- What, it's bugged?
574
00:35:33,305 --> 00:35:34,558
Paranoid!
575
00:35:34,598 --> 00:35:38,237
Talk to your grandad, Chas. I want you
to give him some help on this case.
576
00:35:38,238 --> 00:35:40,797
- I'm up to my eyes, Dad.
- If we don't stop what's happening...
577
00:35:40,798 --> 00:35:43,628
- Oh, but Dad...!
- Do it, Chas.
578
00:35:43,678 --> 00:35:45,508
I've got to go.
579
00:35:47,518 --> 00:35:49,398
(RINGS DOORBELL)
580
00:35:53,038 --> 00:35:55,028
Can I come in?
581
00:35:55,078 --> 00:35:58,012
Why did you come back?
I have nothing to say.
582
00:35:58,062 --> 00:36:00,981
You may be the last chance
these soldiers and their families have.
583
00:36:00,982 --> 00:36:03,388
I'm sorry, Mr Deed.
584
00:36:03,438 --> 00:36:06,668
I haven't got anywhere else to go.
585
00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:17,305
I'm scared of what will happen
if I help you get Dr Dayvis's papers.
586
00:36:17,306 --> 00:36:19,718
The court can protect you.
587
00:36:19,758 --> 00:36:21,958
It's the only way.
588
00:36:21,998 --> 00:36:26,157
There's a bill about to complete
its passage through Parliament.
589
00:36:26,158 --> 00:36:30,092
It will stop anyone ever suing
the pharmaceutical companies.
590
00:36:30,093 --> 00:36:34,108
- You can't stop these people.
- We might, if we expose this.
591
00:36:34,158 --> 00:36:35,668
They will kill me.
592
00:36:35,718 --> 00:36:37,948
Not once the information's out.
593
00:36:37,998 --> 00:36:41,308
- I don't have it!
- Does it exist?
594
00:36:42,878 --> 00:36:45,028
Did Dr Dayvis have the facts?
595
00:36:45,078 --> 00:36:51,158
Security people from Caversham...
took all his papers and computer.
596
00:36:52,238 --> 00:36:54,148
There must have been a copy.
597
00:36:54,198 --> 00:36:56,132
He made copies of everything.
598
00:36:57,478 --> 00:37:00,068
Well, did Caversham take everything?
599
00:37:06,678 --> 00:37:08,878
He did have a back-up hard drive.
600
00:37:10,838 --> 00:37:12,558
Well, have you got it?
601
00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:14,558
Is it here?
602
00:37:19,438 --> 00:37:21,238
Well, that's the good news.
603
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,188
He's getting the hard drive.
604
00:37:23,238 --> 00:37:25,838
We'd better give Mr Butler the bad news
605
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:28,773
about Deed trying to stop
the amendment bill.
606
00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:56,668
- CHARLIE: Hello.
- Charlie, it's me.
607
00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:07,358
I thought we might go for dinner.
608
00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:10,788
I have to finish this.
Dad needs it urgently.
609
00:38:10,838 --> 00:38:12,505
Have you seen him lately?
610
00:38:12,506 --> 00:38:15,388
I'm flat out with this case in Bristol.
611
00:38:15,438 --> 00:38:17,305
Is he still seeing Jo Mills?
612
00:38:17,306 --> 00:38:18,548
I doubt it.
613
00:38:18,598 --> 00:38:21,998
She's before him in a case.
He'd be in real trouble.
614
00:38:21,999 --> 00:38:24,708
I think he is in real trouble.
615
00:38:24,758 --> 00:38:26,625
Nothing unusual there, then.
616
00:38:28,478 --> 00:38:31,212
This time might be a little more serious.
617
00:38:33,198 --> 00:38:39,508
Neil has a recording of the Deed
and Jo Mills having sex in her apartment.
618
00:38:39,558 --> 00:38:40,678
How?
619
00:38:40,718 --> 00:38:44,108
Normally, Charlie,
he does it with a lot of charm.
620
00:38:44,158 --> 00:38:45,957
This time he was a little less charming.
621
00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:48,188
How did they get the recording?
622
00:38:48,238 --> 00:38:50,308
Neil wouldn't say.
623
00:38:50,358 --> 00:38:52,197
But they talk about the case starting.
624
00:38:52,198 --> 00:38:54,332
Is it real? This could ruin Dad.
625
00:38:54,382 --> 00:38:57,822
From the way Neil's feeling,
I'd say it was real.
626
00:38:57,862 --> 00:38:59,988
He's so stupid!
627
00:39:00,038 --> 00:39:01,948
I have to go and warn him.
628
00:39:01,998 --> 00:39:03,478
I thought you might.
629
00:39:09,998 --> 00:39:12,308
Someone's bugged your apartment.
630
00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:17,308
I feel sick.
631
00:39:17,358 --> 00:39:20,717
Neil Haughton hates Dad.
He's going to release that recording.
632
00:39:20,718 --> 00:39:22,308
Did you warn John?
633
00:39:22,358 --> 00:39:24,025
His phone's switched off.
634
00:39:24,026 --> 00:39:28,026
I didn't want to leave a message
in case that was bugged too.
635
00:39:30,238 --> 00:39:31,718
What a mess.
636
00:39:43,918 --> 00:39:46,748
Goodness, didn't you go to bed?
637
00:39:46,798 --> 00:39:49,438
No.
638
00:39:49,478 --> 00:39:52,078
Mrs Mills is trying to get hold of you.
639
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:55,546
She didn't call.
She thinks her phone's being bugged.
640
00:39:57,598 --> 00:39:59,558
Um...
641
00:39:59,598 --> 00:40:02,478
Right.
Get her to meet me in the car park.
642
00:40:02,518 --> 00:40:05,508
They can't have bugged that yet!
643
00:40:08,038 --> 00:40:10,108
I'm sorry I got you into this.
644
00:40:17,078 --> 00:40:19,228
Are we any further with Dayvis?
645
00:40:20,878 --> 00:40:23,308
Yes. I got hold of his hard drive.
646
00:40:25,758 --> 00:40:29,625
I'm no scientist, Jo,
but it looks like the drugs are safe.
647
00:40:29,626 --> 00:40:32,293
He couldn't repeat his earlier findings.
648
00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:36,638
Is this authentic?
649
00:40:36,678 --> 00:40:38,398
As a two-pound coin.
650
00:40:39,958 --> 00:40:42,092
You'll have to report it, Peter.
651
00:40:43,918 --> 00:40:47,985
Sir Peter Dulford would like
to see you and Sir Joseph. Alone.
652
00:40:47,986 --> 00:40:48,868
Oh!
653
00:40:48,918 --> 00:40:51,228
Tell him to wait.
654
00:40:51,278 --> 00:40:52,812
I'll talk to you later.
655
00:40:57,078 --> 00:40:59,988
Are the parties in
the internet case here?
656
00:41:00,038 --> 00:41:02,708
- Only Ian McCartney.
- Oh. Oh, well...
657
00:41:02,758 --> 00:41:04,478
No, no!
658
00:41:06,238 --> 00:41:09,172
Ask Ian McCartney to
come in here, would you?
659
00:41:14,318 --> 00:41:16,958
How did that happen?
660
00:41:16,998 --> 00:41:20,828
In a car crash when I was ten.
661
00:41:20,878 --> 00:41:23,348
My parents were killed.
662
00:41:23,398 --> 00:41:27,438
That's a lot for a ten-year-old
to overcome.
663
00:41:27,478 --> 00:41:28,668
Yeah.
664
00:41:30,798 --> 00:41:34,478
There were times where
I felt like... giving up.
665
00:41:36,038 --> 00:41:37,637
You know, people think it's just
666
00:41:37,638 --> 00:41:40,638
losing your parents
or not being able to walk,
667
00:41:40,678 --> 00:41:44,388
but... actually, you can overcome that.
668
00:41:45,958 --> 00:41:49,225
It's the loss of hope
that really brings you down.
669
00:41:51,918 --> 00:41:54,585
Then I learned I was good with computers
670
00:41:54,586 --> 00:41:59,376
and the world opened up to me there.
Changed everything.
671
00:42:01,998 --> 00:42:05,708
Internet Raiders
have offered me 5 million.
672
00:42:05,758 --> 00:42:08,118
I'm not sure if that's enough.
673
00:42:08,158 --> 00:42:09,908
It's a lot of money.
674
00:42:09,958 --> 00:42:13,748
I have a good case, and time.
675
00:42:13,798 --> 00:42:18,668
Did you ever dream of having? 5 million?
676
00:42:18,718 --> 00:42:22,548
Off the record... no.
677
00:42:22,598 --> 00:42:25,198
Anything can happen
in a two-year trial.
678
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,559
Take the money.
679
00:42:33,758 --> 00:42:37,438
Is it possible to look at
a computer hard disk
680
00:42:37,478 --> 00:42:41,145
and see if its contents
are camouflaging something else?
681
00:42:41,146 --> 00:42:42,816
What do you mean?
682
00:42:46,518 --> 00:42:48,828
Two people may have died
683
00:42:48,878 --> 00:42:52,428
because of what was
assumed to be on this disk.
684
00:42:52,478 --> 00:42:55,838
What's there now is insignificant.
685
00:42:55,878 --> 00:42:57,518
Were they bumped off?
686
00:42:57,558 --> 00:43:00,092
That's a possibility we're looking at.
687
00:43:02,758 --> 00:43:07,228
So you want to know if a file on
this as been changed in some way?
688
00:43:07,278 --> 00:43:09,877
I want to know what's there
that could have got two men killed.
689
00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:12,108
There's got to be something else.
690
00:43:12,158 --> 00:43:14,077
Have you searched the drive
for hidden files?
691
00:43:14,078 --> 00:43:16,468
I wouldn't know how, Mr McCartney.
692
00:43:16,518 --> 00:43:18,668
Will you help us?
693
00:43:20,238 --> 00:43:21,508
Yes.
694
00:43:24,798 --> 00:43:26,918
Tell Coop if you find anything.
695
00:43:33,438 --> 00:43:34,918
All rise.
696
00:43:45,318 --> 00:43:49,708
My Lord, I would rather
this matter was raised in your chambers.
697
00:43:49,758 --> 00:43:53,068
We can sit here in chambers.
698
00:43:53,118 --> 00:43:55,318
Clear the public gallery, please.
699
00:44:04,478 --> 00:44:06,148
Sir Peter?
700
00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:15,188
It'll keep, My Lord.
701
00:44:15,238 --> 00:44:17,388
Then I'll have the public back.
702
00:44:21,318 --> 00:44:25,108
However, there is a matter of law.
703
00:44:25,158 --> 00:44:28,692
We dispute the right of the trial judges
to be partial
704
00:44:28,693 --> 00:44:31,268
in the choice of witnesses they call.
705
00:44:31,318 --> 00:44:36,452
The common law does not admit to this
being done without the parties' consent.
706
00:44:36,453 --> 00:44:42,628
I refer your Lordships to Re Enoch and
Zaretsky, Bock and Co in a case from 1910,
707
00:44:42,678 --> 00:44:48,068
reported in the first volume of
the King's Bench reports at page 327.
708
00:44:48,118 --> 00:44:52,397
Yes, Sir Peter, but providing we act
within the over-riding objective principle
709
00:44:52,398 --> 00:44:55,388
of dealing with the case justly,
710
00:44:55,438 --> 00:45:03,358
rule 32.1 means we can ask for
any witness we deem relevant.
711
00:45:03,398 --> 00:45:06,548
"Joined-up justice",
I believe it's called.
712
00:45:08,358 --> 00:45:09,838
My Lord.
713
00:45:14,598 --> 00:45:18,932
We would like Samuel Butler,
the CEO of Caversham Pharmaceuticals,
714
00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:20,267
to answer questions.
715
00:45:20,293 --> 00:45:22,638
Is this witness even available?
716
00:45:23,678 --> 00:45:26,398
Well, we'll adjourn until he is.
717
00:45:26,438 --> 00:45:28,508
All rise.
718
00:45:29,598 --> 00:45:34,438
The longer Deed takes, the closer
our amendments come to being law.
719
00:45:34,478 --> 00:45:36,438
It's a risky game, Percy.
720
00:45:42,518 --> 00:45:44,348
Did you find anything?
721
00:45:44,398 --> 00:45:46,038
There's a hidden file.
722
00:45:46,078 --> 00:45:49,358
Yes! Yes! Yes!
723
00:45:49,398 --> 00:45:50,798
But it's encrypted.
724
00:45:53,758 --> 00:45:58,748
Mr Butler, do you ever market drugs
with adverse reactions?
725
00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:03,028
Of course. Most drugs
cause some adverse reactions.
726
00:46:03,078 --> 00:46:06,438
This is the price we pay
for the greater good.
727
00:46:06,478 --> 00:46:09,358
Caversham is an ethical company.
728
00:46:09,398 --> 00:46:11,997
We've never purposely obtained
a licence for a drug
729
00:46:11,998 --> 00:46:15,628
which we knew to have
severe adverse reactions.
730
00:46:15,678 --> 00:46:20,708
Yes, but isn't it a matter of record
that your anti-arthritis drug...
731
00:46:21,758 --> 00:46:27,788
...Kalite was shown to damage the hearts
of patients in certain trials?
732
00:46:27,838 --> 00:46:30,757
I wasn't with Caversham
when that drug was launched.
733
00:46:30,758 --> 00:46:32,798
Oh. Well, then step down.
734
00:46:32,838 --> 00:46:36,772
We'll call someone with
a comprehensive view of the company.
735
00:46:42,758 --> 00:46:46,092
It's a simple encryption.
It's just time-consuming.
736
00:46:46,142 --> 00:46:48,541
- Well, how long will it take?
- I'm going to break it.
737
00:46:48,542 --> 00:46:51,238
It may be too late.
738
00:46:51,278 --> 00:46:53,745
Whoever did this is quite smart, sir.
739
00:46:53,746 --> 00:46:55,226
Perhaps too smart.
740
00:46:58,398 --> 00:47:01,038
The Home Secretary, Judge.
741
00:47:05,438 --> 00:47:08,988
- Neil, I've been expecting you.
- Oh, you have?
742
00:47:09,038 --> 00:47:11,948
Yes, you want your
civil servants back.
743
00:47:11,998 --> 00:47:14,997
- Not until I get the truth.
- This is not about my civil servants.
744
00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:16,878
Things have moved on.
745
00:47:16,918 --> 00:47:21,788
There's a tape of you conspiring
with Mrs Mills - among other things -
746
00:47:21,838 --> 00:47:23,798
prior to the start of this.
747
00:47:25,358 --> 00:47:27,718
Obtained how?
748
00:47:27,758 --> 00:47:31,358
I imagine one of Mrs Mills's
many enemies recorded you.
749
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:33,828
A matter of national security?
750
00:47:33,878 --> 00:47:37,078
She certainly behaves
like an enemy of the state.
751
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:38,548
And me?
752
00:47:38,598 --> 00:47:43,068
Rather foolish, I think,
is how the world will judge you.
753
00:47:43,118 --> 00:47:45,238
For George's sake,
754
00:47:45,278 --> 00:47:47,078
and Charlie's,
755
00:47:47,118 --> 00:47:50,028
I'd rather you stepped down.
756
00:47:50,078 --> 00:47:53,198
You could not release the tape.
757
00:47:54,358 --> 00:47:55,708
No.
758
00:47:55,758 --> 00:47:58,188
I've waited too long.
759
00:48:00,318 --> 00:48:03,548
Well, thank you for
your consideration, Neil.
760
00:48:03,598 --> 00:48:06,188
He's done it, Judge.
761
00:48:06,238 --> 00:48:09,198
I'll certainly think about
what you said.
762
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:16,625
You got through the encryption?
763
00:48:16,626 --> 00:48:17,976
Of course.
764
00:48:19,438 --> 00:48:22,557
- Is this what you're looking for?
- I certainly hope it is.
765
00:48:22,558 --> 00:48:24,917
McCARTNEY: Well, only the person
who wrote it would know.
766
00:48:24,918 --> 00:48:26,917
Coop, run and catch Mrs Mills
and Sir Peter,
767
00:48:26,918 --> 00:48:30,252
and I want Dr David Liffe
brought here immediately.
768
00:48:30,253 --> 00:48:31,733
Yes!
769
00:48:39,438 --> 00:48:41,277
Can you come to any conclusion, Dr Liffe?
770
00:48:41,278 --> 00:48:43,708
What conclusion do you want?
771
00:48:43,758 --> 00:48:50,388
What are Dr Dayvis's conclusions about
the drugs given to soldiers by the Army?
772
00:48:50,438 --> 00:48:52,478
Looking at the raw data...
773
00:48:52,518 --> 00:48:56,585
what he found was that he couldn't
repeat his earlier findings
774
00:48:56,586 --> 00:48:58,453
produced by him and Dr Moon.
775
00:49:03,758 --> 00:49:06,692
Do you recognise these
as Dr Dayvis's papers?
776
00:49:06,693 --> 00:49:09,363
Yes. I know his work.
777
00:49:09,998 --> 00:49:13,597
It often happens that the results
of an exciting discovery can't be replicated.
778
00:49:13,598 --> 00:49:16,932
My Lord, in view of this
incontrovertible evidence,
779
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:20,333
I ask that Mr Justice Niven's judgment
ow be upheld.
780
00:49:24,118 --> 00:49:26,948
No. We will rise for 30 minutes.
781
00:49:26,998 --> 00:49:29,228
All rise.
782
00:49:31,718 --> 00:49:34,518
John, this cannot continue!
783
00:49:34,558 --> 00:49:38,028
The longer it goes on,
the more foolish we appear.
784
00:49:38,078 --> 00:49:39,798
I know, Joe.
785
00:49:39,838 --> 00:49:42,958
You did your best. You tried.
786
00:49:42,998 --> 00:49:44,478
End it!
787
00:49:53,918 --> 00:49:56,718
Are you all right, Judge?
788
00:49:56,758 --> 00:49:58,828
We ran headlong into that.
789
00:50:00,638 --> 00:50:02,598
Well, if you ask me, Judge,
790
00:50:02,638 --> 00:50:06,468
Dr Moon's working for Caversham
and she put it there.
791
00:50:06,518 --> 00:50:09,158
It's too late to find out.
792
00:50:09,198 --> 00:50:14,398
Tomorrow the amendment bill will pass
its last hurdle through Parliament and...
793
00:50:15,958 --> 00:50:19,788
I'd better have the parties
in the internet case back.
794
00:50:19,838 --> 00:50:21,318
Yes, Judge.
795
00:50:33,558 --> 00:50:37,477
Could someone have planted that
information on Dr Dayvis's computer
796
00:50:37,478 --> 00:50:39,838
about the drugs being harmless?
797
00:50:39,878 --> 00:50:44,398
Technically? Yeah, of course,
but that doesn't help the Judge.
798
00:50:44,438 --> 00:50:47,997
- How could they do that?
- Well, it's pretty simple, really.
799
00:50:47,998 --> 00:50:51,397
You just change the file, resave it
and delete all the back-ups.
800
00:50:51,398 --> 00:50:53,548
Well, can't you get them back?
801
00:50:53,598 --> 00:50:55,998
That wasn't what I was trying to do.
802
00:50:59,838 --> 00:51:02,505
I'd need access to the hard drive again.
803
00:51:02,506 --> 00:51:04,706
You're wanted back in court.
804
00:51:05,838 --> 00:51:07,572
Isn't this more important?
805
00:51:09,318 --> 00:51:12,148
Are we back on, Mrs Cooper?
806
00:51:12,198 --> 00:51:14,318
Um, he needs the bathroom.
807
00:51:24,998 --> 00:51:27,118
(PHONE RINGS)
808
00:51:28,198 --> 00:51:30,788
Mr Justice Deed's chambers.
809
00:51:30,838 --> 00:51:32,597
I hate to press you, Mr McCartney,
810
00:51:32,598 --> 00:51:35,357
but I can't keep these barristers
waiting much longer.
811
00:51:35,358 --> 00:51:37,557
Sir Joseph wants to know
when we're going back in.
812
00:51:37,558 --> 00:51:39,518
Mr McCartney?
813
00:51:39,558 --> 00:51:42,308
Is that what you need?
814
00:51:42,358 --> 00:51:44,692
I retrieved it from the hard drive.
815
00:51:44,718 --> 00:51:47,918
It's Dr Dayvis's back-up.
Someone had deleted it.
816
00:51:47,919 --> 00:51:49,948
Coop, get hold of Stephen.
817
00:51:49,998 --> 00:51:52,558
Tell him... No, I'll do it myself.
818
00:51:52,598 --> 00:51:56,748
Stephen! Go and get Dr Moon
and bring her to court immediately.
819
00:51:56,798 --> 00:51:59,798
- What if she won't come, Judge?
- Arrest her.
820
00:52:12,998 --> 00:52:16,198
Dr Moon, have you had time to
examine the papers?
821
00:52:20,838 --> 00:52:23,588
I have nothing to say.
I can't help you.
822
00:52:25,158 --> 00:52:29,628
Are these papers the findings
you and Dr Dayvis made
823
00:52:29,678 --> 00:52:33,078
regarding the cocktail of drugs
soldiers were given?
824
00:52:43,438 --> 00:52:47,172
- Dr Moon, has anyone threatened you?
- PETER: My Lord...
825
00:52:50,798 --> 00:52:53,548
Dr Moon, I advise you to answer.
826
00:52:55,118 --> 00:52:56,868
No-one's threatened me.
827
00:52:56,918 --> 00:52:59,719
- Are they the papers?
- They appear to be.
828
00:52:59,758 --> 00:53:01,748
Did you not conclude
829
00:53:01,798 --> 00:53:07,638
that the drugs were causing
neural deficit in some soldiers?
830
00:53:07,678 --> 00:53:12,798
And didn't you repeat those findings
again, and again, and again?
831
00:53:12,838 --> 00:53:15,988
I told you, I have nothing to say.
832
00:53:19,158 --> 00:53:23,518
Then is this paper a fabrication?
833
00:53:23,558 --> 00:53:26,825
Hmm? Were you not able
to replicate your findings?
834
00:53:34,518 --> 00:53:36,188
Dr Moon?
835
00:53:37,438 --> 00:53:38,758
Well, Dr Moon?
836
00:53:44,438 --> 00:53:45,668
Yes.
837
00:53:47,718 --> 00:53:49,758
Yes, we did.
838
00:53:49,798 --> 00:53:52,228
Again and again.
839
00:53:52,278 --> 00:53:57,588
Dr Dayvis wasn't satisfied
with replicating it just once. He...
840
00:53:58,638 --> 00:54:00,918
...did it again and again.
841
00:54:02,838 --> 00:54:07,708
The vaccination regime the Government
and the pharmaceutical company
842
00:54:07,758 --> 00:54:13,678
are proposing to give the whole country
in the event of a bio-terror attack
843
00:54:13,718 --> 00:54:18,668
would cause neural deficit
in two to three persons per 1,000.
844
00:54:18,718 --> 00:54:21,317
The damage to children
would be much higher.
845
00:54:21,318 --> 00:54:23,908
Is this what happened to Brian Meam?
846
00:54:23,958 --> 00:54:26,628
I never examined Mr Meam, but...
847
00:54:26,678 --> 00:54:28,958
we did see this in...
848
00:54:28,998 --> 00:54:31,198
several dozen other soldiers.
849
00:54:32,758 --> 00:54:33,948
Thank you.
850
00:54:35,638 --> 00:54:41,028
They knew this would happen
after the very first soldiers got ill.
851
00:54:41,078 --> 00:54:42,398
Caversham knew?
852
00:54:44,838 --> 00:54:46,908
And the Government.
853
00:54:46,958 --> 00:54:50,625
That was what Dr Dayvis's
big fight with them was about.
854
00:54:50,638 --> 00:54:53,358
I believe...
855
00:54:53,398 --> 00:54:54,799
that was why he died.
856
00:54:55,958 --> 00:54:57,917
JOHN: We may have only won the battle.
857
00:54:57,918 --> 00:55:01,277
Well, if the MPs have got the information,
they could stop the bill.
858
00:55:01,278 --> 00:55:03,268
I wonder...
859
00:55:03,318 --> 00:55:06,117
- What's happening?
- He hasn't stopped all day.
860
00:55:06,118 --> 00:55:09,077
- Have you sent the e-mails?
- You should rest, Ian. You're exhausted.
861
00:55:09,078 --> 00:55:10,508
They've gone, sir.
862
00:55:10,558 --> 00:55:15,077
I alerted all the MPs and every member of
the House of Lords and all the news desks.
863
00:55:15,078 --> 00:55:18,157
The information was highlighted
with your comments on the bill.
864
00:55:18,158 --> 00:55:20,959
- Let's hope they read them.
- Please, God.
865
00:55:20,998 --> 00:55:22,558
Amen.
866
00:55:23,558 --> 00:55:27,797
GEORGE: You know, Neil will release
the recording unless you resign.
867
00:55:27,798 --> 00:55:30,197
Obtaining it may have been
an offence, George.
868
00:55:30,198 --> 00:55:32,437
You can't rely on the law
to protect you, John.
869
00:55:32,438 --> 00:55:34,317
Yeah, I told him I'd think about it.
870
00:55:34,318 --> 00:55:36,917
- That's all you'll do.
- Well, you know me, George.
871
00:55:36,918 --> 00:55:39,757
I always expect the best of everybody.
Are you going my way?
872
00:55:39,758 --> 00:55:41,638
I don't think so.
873
00:55:41,678 --> 00:55:44,278
It might end up on someone's recording!
874
00:55:46,478 --> 00:55:50,468
Find out who put the bug
in Jo Mills's flat.
875
00:55:50,518 --> 00:55:52,948
Well, I can try, Judge.
876
00:55:56,118 --> 00:55:58,157
That amendment bill
should have been a formality.
877
00:55:58,158 --> 00:56:00,038
Not after Deed's e-mail.
878
00:56:00,078 --> 00:56:03,478
Isn't that beyond the bounds
of his duty as a judge?
879
00:56:03,479 --> 00:56:04,228
Oh, it is.
880
00:56:04,278 --> 00:56:07,037
Then release the tape of him
having sex with Mrs Mills.
881
00:56:07,038 --> 00:56:08,717
We'll put a stop to this case yet.
882
00:56:08,718 --> 00:56:12,385
If we do, Home Secretary,
it could come back to bite us.
883
00:56:12,386 --> 00:56:16,386
You personally steered
the Civil Contingencies amendment bill
884
00:56:16,387 --> 00:56:18,599
to the floor of the House.
885
00:56:22,518 --> 00:56:27,068
The Legal Services Commission
is right in its approach
886
00:56:27,118 --> 00:56:29,078
not to fund every case,
887
00:56:29,118 --> 00:56:33,798
having a duty of prudence
with the taxpayers' money.
888
00:56:33,838 --> 00:56:38,439
In the case of Brian Meam, its exercise
of discretion was contestable.
889
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,718
We've carefully examined the judicial
review conducted by Mr Justice Niven
890
00:56:43,758 --> 00:56:48,228
and find it was open to
legitimate objection.
891
00:56:48,278 --> 00:56:52,718
Not on the basis that there was
any appearance of bias,
892
00:56:52,758 --> 00:56:59,468
rather because a keystone of his judgment had,
unbeknown to him, been falsified.
893
00:56:59,518 --> 00:57:01,748
Our view, therefore,
894
00:57:01,798 --> 00:57:07,028
is that the Legal Services Commission
should look again at this matter
895
00:57:07,078 --> 00:57:14,478
with a view to restoring the funding
for this important case.
896
00:57:24,118 --> 00:57:25,998
That's Major Colby.
897
00:57:29,718 --> 00:57:32,388
With Superintendent Gaghan.
898
00:57:36,318 --> 00:57:40,468
Any luck with identifying
his fingerprints yet, Superintendent?
899
00:57:40,518 --> 00:57:43,319
You might try asking
these police officers.
900
00:57:45,078 --> 00:57:49,518
They're here to interview you both
about the death of Dr Hiaasen.
901
00:57:49,558 --> 00:57:54,892
And get those bugs out of Jo Mills's flat
or I promise you you will go to prison.
902
00:58:15,038 --> 00:58:18,078
You're taking a big risk coming here.
903
00:58:18,118 --> 00:58:21,452
Yes, the man in the gabardine suit
really is a spy.
904
00:58:24,798 --> 00:58:26,332
Do you want to come up?
905
00:58:28,318 --> 00:58:32,785
Well, you never know who might be
listening. We could go to a hotel.
906
00:58:32,786 --> 00:58:33,628
What, now?
907
00:58:33,678 --> 00:58:35,508
To have tea!
908
00:58:35,558 --> 00:58:37,825
It would have to be very good tea.
909
00:58:39,278 --> 00:58:40,545
Is your car bugged?
910
00:58:40,546 --> 00:58:42,906
JOHN: Let's not get too paranoid.
73808
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.