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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:41,038 --> 00:00:42,518 All rise. 2 00:00:51,198 --> 00:00:53,078 All rise. 3 00:01:15,158 --> 00:01:18,228 JOHN: In reviewing whether the decision 4 00:01:18,278 --> 00:01:22,988 to withdraw legal aid funding from Sergeant Brian Meam was reasonable, 5 00:01:23,038 --> 00:01:25,517 Mr Justice Niven concluded that it was. 6 00:01:25,518 --> 00:01:30,119 Subsequently, the suitability for Mr Justice Niven to sit in this case 7 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,878 was called into question. 8 00:01:31,918 --> 00:01:36,118 So we are here to examine whether his ruling should be set aside 9 00:01:36,119 --> 00:01:40,798 for bias or... apparent bias. 10 00:01:40,838 --> 00:01:44,828 Is the Legal Services Commission not represented by counsel? 11 00:01:44,878 --> 00:01:50,108 Sir Peter Dulford and his junior have been delayed. 12 00:01:50,158 --> 00:01:52,997 Sir Peter knew that he was required to stand by for this hearing. 13 00:01:52,998 --> 00:01:54,798 It was unavoidable, sir. 14 00:01:54,838 --> 00:01:59,905 Well, then, it looks like this review will be heard without his contribution. 15 00:01:59,945 --> 00:02:02,545 My Lord, might I request an adjournment? 16 00:02:02,546 --> 00:02:03,829 And you are? 17 00:02:03,878 --> 00:02:07,117 Henry Door, solicitor to the Legal Services Commission. 18 00:02:07,118 --> 00:02:09,197 Do you have any right of audience here, Mr Door? 19 00:02:09,198 --> 00:02:10,628 No, I don't, sir. 20 00:02:10,678 --> 00:02:13,668 Then please sit down. Mrs Mills? 21 00:02:17,718 --> 00:02:22,478 Five years ago, two years after he was diagnosed with neural deficit, 22 00:02:22,518 --> 00:02:25,877 Sergeant and Mrs Meam were awarded a funding certificate 23 00:02:25,878 --> 00:02:27,878 from the then Legal Aid Board. 24 00:02:27,879 --> 00:02:30,268 This money was for research 25 00:02:30,318 --> 00:02:34,037 into the nature of his persistent and worsening illness and the likely cause. 26 00:02:34,038 --> 00:02:37,268 It was also unbearably stressful for both of them 27 00:02:37,318 --> 00:02:41,708 and their son David, who became severely depressed. 28 00:02:41,758 --> 00:02:44,757 Two weeks ago, Sergeant Meam had become so desperate 29 00:02:44,758 --> 00:02:47,559 he took his own life and that of his child 30 00:02:47,609 --> 00:02:52,409 by driving the family car into a river whilst they were both strapped in. 31 00:02:52,410 --> 00:02:56,708 Mrs Mills, we cannot accept your assertion of the cause of death. 32 00:02:56,758 --> 00:03:00,068 That must be left to the coroner to determine. 33 00:03:00,118 --> 00:03:01,788 Yes, of course, My Lord. 34 00:03:02,838 --> 00:03:05,988 Over this period, the Legal Aid Board, 35 00:03:06,038 --> 00:03:08,557 which became the Legal Services Commission, 36 00:03:08,558 --> 00:03:11,158 wavered several times in their support, 37 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:15,238 demanding more and more evidence, twice suspending funding. 38 00:03:15,278 --> 00:03:18,718 Then in August, they withdrew funding completely 39 00:03:18,758 --> 00:03:21,757 as this test case was about to go to the High Court. 40 00:03:21,758 --> 00:03:24,277 - Was a reason given for this? - Lack of evidence. 41 00:03:24,278 --> 00:03:27,957 The claim, in their view, hadn't a better than 50$% chance of succeeding. 42 00:03:27,958 --> 00:03:30,028 But then we acquired evidence 43 00:03:30,078 --> 00:03:33,812 that the Association of British Pharmaceutical Industries 44 00:03:33,813 --> 00:03:39,108 was putting pressure on the Government to stop this trial from going forward. 45 00:03:39,158 --> 00:03:40,825 Was there a reason given? 46 00:03:40,826 --> 00:03:45,918 The basis was that the drugs involved brought too much benefit as a whole. 47 00:03:45,958 --> 00:03:48,877 - Was this put to the LSC? - They said it was inconclusive, 48 00:03:48,878 --> 00:03:52,678 and referred us to the earlier review by Mr Justice Niven. 49 00:03:52,679 --> 00:03:57,028 Was Mr Justice Niven aware of the new evidence? 50 00:03:57,078 --> 00:03:59,145 We didn't have it at that time. 51 00:04:00,198 --> 00:04:05,798 We're here to examine evidence of bias... 52 00:04:05,838 --> 00:04:08,148 and I'm going to do that 53 00:04:08,198 --> 00:04:13,668 in the context of the original arguments of the merits of the case. 54 00:04:13,718 --> 00:04:17,385 My Lord, this is opening the way to a full-scale review. 55 00:04:17,386 --> 00:04:20,453 Mr Door, you don't have right of audience here. 56 00:04:22,038 --> 00:04:24,797 Any decision will be overturned on appeal, Henry. 57 00:04:24,798 --> 00:04:28,532 Sir Michael Niven would prefer not to risk it, Sir Peter. 58 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:31,867 Then we'd better start running to put out the fire. 59 00:04:38,518 --> 00:04:40,477 A civil servant at the Department of Health 60 00:04:40,478 --> 00:04:42,677 contacted the solicitors acting for Mrs Meam 61 00:04:42,678 --> 00:04:45,479 following the death of her husband and son. 62 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,558 He said that a meeting was held 63 00:04:47,598 --> 00:04:51,557 between Sir Percy Thrower, the Permanent Secretary at the Home Office, 64 00:04:51,558 --> 00:04:54,948 his opposite number at the Department of Health, 65 00:04:54,997 --> 00:04:57,597 and Samuel Butler, the CEO of Caversham, 66 00:04:57,598 --> 00:05:00,988 the manufacturers of the drugs given to soldiers. 67 00:05:01,038 --> 00:05:03,468 Are you calling this whistleblower? 68 00:05:03,518 --> 00:05:05,652 To do so would cost him his job. 69 00:05:09,718 --> 00:05:11,278 Ah, Sir Peter. 70 00:05:11,318 --> 00:05:12,828 My apologies, My Lord. 71 00:05:12,878 --> 00:05:16,197 The case we're in ran on, and this case was listed at such short notice. 72 00:05:16,198 --> 00:05:18,597 You have argument for the court in this review? 73 00:05:18,598 --> 00:05:20,065 We do indeed, My Lord. 74 00:05:20,078 --> 00:05:23,437 Good. Mrs Mills, do you want to ow turn to your opening address? 75 00:05:23,438 --> 00:05:28,118 My Lord, with the utmost respect, this application is about bias. 76 00:05:28,158 --> 00:05:30,797 The court cannot be concerned with the substantive issues 77 00:05:30,798 --> 00:05:32,557 in the case judged by Mr Justice Niven. 78 00:05:32,558 --> 00:05:35,517 Without proper understanding of the issues in the original case, 79 00:05:35,518 --> 00:05:39,518 we can't assess the impact of the bias alleged in the review. 80 00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:42,586 No, My Lord, that's exactly what you cannot do. 81 00:05:43,118 --> 00:05:46,238 I certainly can, Sir Peter. 82 00:05:49,198 --> 00:05:50,348 Mrs Mills. 83 00:05:59,318 --> 00:06:02,918 The Army has gone to great lengths to reassure soldiers 84 00:06:02,958 --> 00:06:06,117 that no possible harm can come to them by taking the drugs given to them 85 00:06:06,118 --> 00:06:10,398 to protect them from attacks by bio-terrorists. 86 00:06:10,438 --> 00:06:13,878 Despite an increasing number becoming sick, 87 00:06:13,918 --> 00:06:17,548 they are given no choice in the matter. 88 00:06:17,598 --> 00:06:19,957 And those falling ill are not small in number. 89 00:06:19,958 --> 00:06:23,237 A small number relative to those receiving the drugs, perhaps, 90 00:06:23,238 --> 00:06:25,877 but when a hitherto fit and healthy soldier 91 00:06:25,878 --> 00:06:28,745 becomes a screaming, head-banging depressive 92 00:06:28,746 --> 00:06:32,108 after receiving them, questions need to be asked. 93 00:06:32,158 --> 00:06:34,228 It is our contention 94 00:06:34,278 --> 00:06:37,917 that neither the Government, the Army or the pharmaceutical companies 95 00:06:37,918 --> 00:06:39,357 want those questions asked 96 00:06:39,358 --> 00:06:43,718 in case the answer is, yes, those drugs do damage some soldiers. 97 00:06:43,758 --> 00:06:46,228 This entire avoidance of debate 98 00:06:46,278 --> 00:06:49,877 seems to hide the decision by the Army, Government and drug companies 99 00:06:49,878 --> 00:06:53,478 to allow some soldiers to be catastrophically damaged 100 00:06:53,518 --> 00:06:55,908 in favour of the common good. 101 00:06:55,958 --> 00:06:57,877 A recurring dilemma for all governments. 102 00:06:57,878 --> 00:07:01,037 Brought sharply into focus by the some becoming many. 103 00:07:01,038 --> 00:07:06,238 The incidence of neural deficit in the armed forces is now at an all-time high. 104 00:07:06,278 --> 00:07:11,078 For Mrs Meam, whose husband may have been fatally damaged by those drugs, 105 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:14,359 there is no common good. 106 00:07:16,838 --> 00:07:20,505 It's late, Mrs Mills, but your client's come a long way. 107 00:07:20,506 --> 00:07:23,307 Would you like to get started with her now? 108 00:07:24,838 --> 00:07:28,972 Mrs Meam, can you tell the court what happened to your husband? 109 00:07:35,118 --> 00:07:37,188 It's like I died that day. 110 00:07:46,838 --> 00:07:48,828 He drove them... 111 00:07:55,678 --> 00:07:57,158 He drove... 112 00:08:03,038 --> 00:08:05,398 He couldn't take it any more. 113 00:08:06,438 --> 00:08:08,638 Can you tell us what led to this? 114 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:11,199 At first, he was... 115 00:08:12,558 --> 00:08:15,678 At first... after the drugs, 116 00:08:15,718 --> 00:08:19,188 when he came home on leave... 117 00:08:19,238 --> 00:08:21,748 he had sort of flu symptoms. 118 00:08:21,798 --> 00:08:24,998 He complained that he ached all over. 119 00:08:28,278 --> 00:08:32,348 He got a fever, and quickly went downhill. 120 00:08:32,398 --> 00:08:34,932 So fast I thought he was going to die. 121 00:08:38,838 --> 00:08:43,468 He started banging his head on the wall with the pain. 122 00:08:43,518 --> 00:08:46,108 All the while going down and down... 123 00:08:48,638 --> 00:08:50,708 He didn't ever come back up. 124 00:08:50,758 --> 00:08:53,148 Do you know what drugs he had? 125 00:08:53,198 --> 00:08:55,948 No. Well, not really. 126 00:08:55,998 --> 00:09:00,798 Brian had said how they were all lined up in his regiment and given them. 127 00:09:00,838 --> 00:09:03,148 Five or six vaccinations together. 128 00:09:04,718 --> 00:09:06,948 It was all hush-hush. 129 00:09:06,998 --> 00:09:11,628 - What happened afterwards? - After the flu-like symptoms... 130 00:09:11,678 --> 00:09:15,228 he came up in purple blotches... 131 00:09:16,798 --> 00:09:20,932 ...then began to vomit. He couldn't seem to keep anything down. 132 00:09:23,958 --> 00:09:25,758 He started screaming, 133 00:09:25,798 --> 00:09:29,598 a really high-pitched scream, like he was in intense pain. 134 00:09:33,718 --> 00:09:38,708 Finally, when he lost consciousness, he had to go into hospital. 135 00:09:42,158 --> 00:09:44,358 He was just different after that. 136 00:09:45,718 --> 00:09:47,678 He began to lose language. 137 00:09:49,438 --> 00:09:51,948 He never made eye contact. 138 00:09:53,518 --> 00:09:55,988 Sometimes he didn't even recognise us. 139 00:09:59,838 --> 00:10:03,238 Did anyone say it might be as a result of the drugs? 140 00:10:03,239 --> 00:10:04,838 No. 141 00:10:04,878 --> 00:10:07,077 They kept saying it wasn't the drugs. 142 00:10:07,078 --> 00:10:09,278 But when we asked more questions, 143 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:14,146 they couldn't seem to prove it wasn't any more than we could prove it was. 144 00:10:19,478 --> 00:10:22,308 Dr Moon. 145 00:10:22,358 --> 00:10:24,478 Excuse me, Dr Moon. 146 00:10:24,518 --> 00:10:28,357 - I'm Mr Justice Deed's clerk. - Yes, I saw you on the bench. 147 00:10:28,358 --> 00:10:30,625 Well, the judge would like a word. 148 00:10:30,626 --> 00:10:34,026 I can't see how that would benefit either one of us. 149 00:10:45,038 --> 00:10:46,838 Judge. 150 00:10:48,798 --> 00:10:51,157 There are no prints on the cigarette packet. 151 00:10:51,158 --> 00:10:54,837 - Not according to my friend in CID. - How is that possible? 152 00:10:54,838 --> 00:10:57,717 He thinks it's been wiped. It's the only way it could be so clean. 153 00:10:57,718 --> 00:11:01,117 Well, there were prints on it when Superintendent Gaghan checked it. 154 00:11:01,118 --> 00:11:02,918 She said they were smudged. 155 00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:07,548 Inside the packet, on the foil, he did find a partial print. 156 00:11:07,598 --> 00:11:09,317 Good enough for identification? 157 00:11:09,318 --> 00:11:12,237 They managed to get a lift off three ridges of the right thumb. 158 00:11:12,238 --> 00:11:14,572 They matched a Major Richard Colby. 159 00:11:14,598 --> 00:11:16,878 JOHN: Oh, well done, Stephen. 160 00:11:16,918 --> 00:11:23,468 He's ex-SAS. Works for a security outfit called Commercial Index. 161 00:11:23,518 --> 00:11:25,997 What sort of work that I couldn't get his file? 162 00:11:25,998 --> 00:11:27,597 They're an investigative outfit. 163 00:11:27,598 --> 00:11:31,798 They work mostly for the Association of British Pharmaceuticals, 164 00:11:31,848 --> 00:11:33,582 chasing down false claims. 165 00:11:33,583 --> 00:11:37,683 We'd better ask some more questions, Stephen. 166 00:11:39,518 --> 00:11:40,998 IAN: Joe! 167 00:11:43,918 --> 00:11:49,278 I urge you - no, I beg you - to withdraw from this case. 168 00:11:49,318 --> 00:11:53,652 It would save the Government a lot of embarrassment. Deed as well. 169 00:11:53,653 --> 00:11:58,068 Justitia is traditionally portrayed as blindfolded. 170 00:11:58,118 --> 00:12:02,878 The idea is that judges must not be influenced by any irrelevancy, 171 00:12:02,918 --> 00:12:08,758 such as the personal embarrassment of anybody, least of all the Government. 172 00:12:08,798 --> 00:12:13,238 We have put up with the eccentric behaviour of your ex-son-in-law 173 00:12:13,278 --> 00:12:14,788 for too long. 174 00:12:14,838 --> 00:12:18,505 This is something the Government will not tolerate, Joe. 175 00:12:18,518 --> 00:12:20,878 Too much is at stake. 176 00:12:20,918 --> 00:12:22,748 Meaning? 177 00:12:22,798 --> 00:12:24,388 I can say no more. 178 00:12:26,958 --> 00:12:30,398 - I'll have a word with him. - Thank you, Joe. 179 00:12:30,438 --> 00:12:33,828 Thank you for your support, Joe. 180 00:12:33,878 --> 00:12:39,268 - It's still not a meeting of minds. - Hopefully you'll change. 181 00:12:39,318 --> 00:12:42,918 I don't like to be bounced, either by you or Rochester. 182 00:12:42,919 --> 00:12:47,118 He gave some pretty cryptic warnings about this case. 183 00:12:47,158 --> 00:12:50,825 The stakes are too high for the Government to let it go. 184 00:12:50,865 --> 00:12:53,024 - Does he have a plan to stop it? - I don't know. 185 00:12:53,025 --> 00:12:57,398 Constitutionally, you're on thin ice. 186 00:12:57,438 --> 00:13:00,188 Be very, very careful. 187 00:13:04,118 --> 00:13:06,678 - Jo, he's gone. - Who? 188 00:13:06,718 --> 00:13:08,548 Dr Hiaasen. 189 00:13:08,598 --> 00:13:10,828 What do you mean, gone? Where? 190 00:13:10,878 --> 00:13:14,677 I-I went to the hospital to check his statement, and no doctor. 191 00:13:14,678 --> 00:13:16,837 Did they say when he'll be back, where he's gone? 192 00:13:16,838 --> 00:13:20,372 - No-one seemed to know. - He's our one solid witness. 193 00:13:20,422 --> 00:13:23,889 - Did you try his home? - I've tried all his numbers. 194 00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:27,198 No, no, no, Peter! You have to go to his home. 195 00:13:27,238 --> 00:13:31,572 Without him, we're lost before we've even started. I'll try Liffe. 196 00:13:31,573 --> 00:13:34,840 He might just know. He put us onto him. Peter, go! 197 00:13:44,438 --> 00:13:46,078 Dr Liffe? It's Jo Mills. 198 00:13:46,118 --> 00:13:48,028 Oh, Mrs Mills. I can't talk. 199 00:13:48,078 --> 00:13:51,812 - We can't seem to contact Dr Hiaasen. - Sorry. I'm busy. 200 00:13:51,813 --> 00:13:55,013 (LINE GOES DEAD) 201 00:14:03,078 --> 00:14:06,357 - Dr Liffe, we have to talk. - Get away from me, Mrs Mills. 202 00:14:06,358 --> 00:14:08,077 - Just get away. - Why? What has happened? 203 00:14:08,078 --> 00:14:10,317 Don't you live in the real world? It's all over the news. 204 00:14:10,318 --> 00:14:12,517 - Dr Hiaasen has killed himself. - What? 205 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:14,948 I only talked with him yesterday. 206 00:14:14,998 --> 00:14:18,437 He was furious that people who matter knew he was giving evidence in your case. 207 00:14:18,438 --> 00:14:19,572 How? What people? 208 00:14:21,118 --> 00:14:25,652 He tied a cord around a tree and around his neck and then drove away. 209 00:14:25,653 --> 00:14:28,323 I can't help you any more. Go away. 210 00:14:28,638 --> 00:14:30,598 That's the same as Dr Dayvis. 211 00:14:30,638 --> 00:14:34,172 You should watch what you say on the phone, Mrs Mills. 212 00:14:41,718 --> 00:14:43,868 - Hey. - Hey. 213 00:14:45,598 --> 00:14:47,268 Thank you. 214 00:14:47,318 --> 00:14:49,878 Are you taking your work home? 215 00:14:49,918 --> 00:14:52,397 Taking it to my dad to ask him for some help! 216 00:14:52,398 --> 00:14:54,932 - Have you got something? - Mmm, a job. 217 00:14:54,933 --> 00:14:58,508 - Prosecuting a big DWP fraud in Bristol. - Wow. 218 00:14:58,558 --> 00:15:01,868 - Who's your leader? - No-one. It's my own case. 219 00:15:01,918 --> 00:15:04,118 The CPS approached you? 220 00:15:04,158 --> 00:15:05,828 It can happen, Dad. 221 00:15:05,878 --> 00:15:08,758 Yes. Yeah, sure. 222 00:15:08,798 --> 00:15:10,548 (PHONE RINGS) 223 00:15:10,598 --> 00:15:12,318 Hi. 224 00:15:12,358 --> 00:15:15,558 - Do you know who this is? - Has my luck changed? 225 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:16,868 Can we meet? 226 00:15:16,918 --> 00:15:19,385 I thought you said that was too risky. 227 00:15:19,386 --> 00:15:23,616 More so now. This is urgent. Meet you in the usual place. 228 00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:26,908 Is something wrong, Dad? 229 00:15:26,958 --> 00:15:29,628 No. 230 00:15:29,678 --> 00:15:31,478 - Proof? - Come on, John! 231 00:15:31,518 --> 00:15:33,668 He was about to give evidence. 232 00:15:33,718 --> 00:15:37,398 Without him, you haven't got much of a case, have you? 233 00:15:37,438 --> 00:15:40,477 Summons Dr Liffe. Question him on Hiaasen's statement. 234 00:15:40,478 --> 00:15:42,597 You've got to get somebody to testify 235 00:15:42,598 --> 00:15:45,037 that the drugs given to Brian Meam could have harmed him. 236 00:15:45,038 --> 00:15:47,917 Otherwise the decision to withdraw funding looks reasonable. 237 00:15:47,918 --> 00:15:50,388 Liffe won't talk. He's too spooked. 238 00:15:50,438 --> 00:15:53,797 You know that those two scientists didn't commit suicide, and so do I. 239 00:15:53,798 --> 00:15:55,998 - Yes. - Yes. 240 00:15:56,038 --> 00:15:59,038 I'll get the police report on Hiaasen's death. 241 00:16:05,078 --> 00:16:07,988 - Sir Ian Rochester, Judge. - Thanks, Coop. 242 00:16:13,798 --> 00:16:17,918 We understand Mrs Mills's principal witness has killed himself 243 00:16:17,958 --> 00:16:20,825 and that you've asked for the police report. 244 00:16:20,826 --> 00:16:24,748 Don't you find Dr Hiaasen's death just a little bit odd? 245 00:16:24,798 --> 00:16:27,918 He was under enormous stress. 246 00:16:27,958 --> 00:16:29,548 - Sorry. - No, no, no. 247 00:16:31,118 --> 00:16:34,397 Oh, no doubt the lunatic fringe, led by Mrs Mills and her cohorts, 248 00:16:34,398 --> 00:16:36,388 will see a conspiracy. 249 00:16:36,438 --> 00:16:38,837 It was exactly the same method as Dr Dayvis's death. 250 00:16:38,838 --> 00:16:40,797 Doesn't that bear investigation? 251 00:16:40,798 --> 00:16:43,437 You can't believe the Government or the pharmaceutical industry 252 00:16:43,438 --> 00:16:45,317 had anything to do with Dr Hiaasen's death? 253 00:16:45,318 --> 00:16:49,157 I can believe the Government has done a secret deal to relax regulations 254 00:16:49,158 --> 00:16:52,357 in exchange for co-operative work on bio-terrorism vaccines. 255 00:16:52,358 --> 00:16:57,197 I can believe that they would go to extraordinary lengths to keep that secret. 256 00:16:57,198 --> 00:17:00,238 - That sounds rather far-fetched. - Does it? 257 00:17:00,278 --> 00:17:02,918 Be that as it may, there is no question 258 00:17:02,958 --> 00:17:08,558 that Michael Niven's decision can be invalidated for reasons of apparent bias. 259 00:17:08,598 --> 00:17:11,428 Oh, I thought I was the judge. 260 00:17:11,478 --> 00:17:13,548 My Lord. 261 00:17:13,598 --> 00:17:16,668 As you're so well informed, Ian, you must know 262 00:17:16,718 --> 00:17:19,717 that I've summoned the head of the Legal Services Commission in Bristol 263 00:17:19,718 --> 00:17:21,797 to enquire on what basis it withdrew funding. 264 00:17:21,798 --> 00:17:24,388 If I don't get a satisfactory answer, 265 00:17:24,438 --> 00:17:27,317 I will summon the head of the Department of Health, 266 00:17:27,318 --> 00:17:29,997 of Defence, of the Home Office and all their ministers, 267 00:17:29,998 --> 00:17:34,265 right up to the Prime Minister himself, but I will get the truth. 268 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:37,598 You could create such a crisis 269 00:17:37,638 --> 00:17:40,757 that credibility in the courts could become precarious. 270 00:17:40,758 --> 00:17:42,637 Your motives will simply not be understood. 271 00:17:42,638 --> 00:17:47,172 Yes, and in the meanwhile, I will have the police and medical reports 272 00:17:47,173 --> 00:17:48,640 on Dr Hiaasen's death. 273 00:17:50,158 --> 00:17:54,708 I ask you again, on what basis did you withdraw funding? 274 00:17:54,758 --> 00:17:57,988 Insufficient evidence that the case was winnable. 275 00:17:58,038 --> 00:18:00,837 Prior to that decision, you had been funding the action? 276 00:18:00,838 --> 00:18:05,438 - Yes, sir. Since the late '90s. - Believing the case to be winnable? 277 00:18:05,478 --> 00:18:07,837 Well, not after the death of Dr Rupert Dayvis. 278 00:18:07,838 --> 00:18:10,118 He was the leading researcher. 279 00:18:10,158 --> 00:18:12,477 In the absence of anyone of his calibre, 280 00:18:12,478 --> 00:18:16,478 all we had to rely on was the opinion of the independent bar. 281 00:18:16,528 --> 00:18:21,195 As you know, sir, barristers often get the job once they've advised us. 282 00:18:21,196 --> 00:18:24,758 Was Mrs Mills less than honest in her assessment? 283 00:18:24,798 --> 00:18:26,665 No, sir. She was very frank. 284 00:18:26,666 --> 00:18:30,158 Then what led you to reassess the case, Mr Cherry? 285 00:18:30,198 --> 00:18:33,028 We do from time to time, sir. 286 00:18:33,078 --> 00:18:36,278 Something specifically prompted this. 287 00:18:39,678 --> 00:18:43,118 Mr Door, are you instructing this witness? 288 00:18:43,158 --> 00:18:46,118 My Lord, this is most irregular. 289 00:18:46,158 --> 00:18:49,517 Yes, please forgive me, Sir Peter. It's the influence of the Hague. 290 00:18:49,518 --> 00:18:53,252 I'm allowed to conduct things differently there. Mr Door? 291 00:18:54,398 --> 00:18:56,828 No, I'm not instructing the witness. 292 00:18:56,878 --> 00:18:58,388 Good. Mr Cherry? 293 00:19:00,278 --> 00:19:02,145 The answer's not over there. 294 00:19:05,558 --> 00:19:08,158 CHERRY: Well, sir, there was a request. 295 00:19:08,159 --> 00:19:09,508 Ah. 296 00:19:09,558 --> 00:19:12,148 From whom? 297 00:19:13,758 --> 00:19:16,958 - A Government department. - Well, don't tell me. 298 00:19:16,959 --> 00:19:18,959 Let me guess. The Home Office? 299 00:19:20,278 --> 00:19:24,588 You don't have to answer this witness summons, Percy. 300 00:19:24,638 --> 00:19:28,477 If I don't, Rochester thinks Deed will put me in jail for contempt. 301 00:19:28,478 --> 00:19:30,197 Now, there's a wonderful irony. 302 00:19:30,198 --> 00:19:33,277 The head of the Home Office Civil Service in one of our own jails! 303 00:19:33,278 --> 00:19:34,717 Not an edifying prospect. 304 00:19:34,718 --> 00:19:37,477 Pity our Civil Contingencies amendment bill isn't done and dusted. 305 00:19:37,478 --> 00:19:40,212 It wouldn't matter then what Deed learns. 306 00:19:40,213 --> 00:19:42,558 Should I go, Home Secretary? 307 00:19:42,598 --> 00:19:46,478 Ah, it's either that or Australia, Percy. 308 00:19:48,878 --> 00:19:51,598 Not transportation. 309 00:19:51,638 --> 00:19:55,548 A fact-finding trip to... Tasmania, perhaps? 310 00:19:55,598 --> 00:19:58,532 I think I'd rather take my chances with Deed. 311 00:19:58,533 --> 00:20:00,078 Stall him, Percy. 312 00:20:00,118 --> 00:20:05,118 I'll speak to the Leader of the House, see if we can get a rush on our bill. 313 00:20:18,318 --> 00:20:22,868 - You. - Dr Moon, I really need to talk to you. 314 00:20:22,918 --> 00:20:26,548 I don't have to. Don't you know what's happened again? 315 00:20:28,198 --> 00:20:30,478 Can I come in, please? 316 00:20:32,838 --> 00:20:35,438 (WHISPERS) I don't want to talk inside. 317 00:20:42,998 --> 00:20:45,588 Has anyone threatened you? 318 00:20:45,638 --> 00:20:48,108 No-one needs to threaten me. 319 00:20:48,158 --> 00:20:50,988 I'm forever looking over my shoulder, 320 00:20:51,038 --> 00:20:54,717 wondering about the woman buying a newspaper, the man sitting in the car... 321 00:20:54,718 --> 00:20:58,585 I guard my phone conversations in case anyone is listening. 322 00:20:58,586 --> 00:21:00,656 Is that why you wanted to walk? 323 00:21:02,358 --> 00:21:05,988 Sometimes I just can't bear being enclosed. 324 00:21:06,038 --> 00:21:09,268 Whatever it is you want, I can't help you! 325 00:21:09,318 --> 00:21:10,828 I think you can. 326 00:21:10,878 --> 00:21:13,758 I think that's why you came to my court. 327 00:21:13,798 --> 00:21:17,158 How many deaths will it take to stop you? 328 00:21:19,118 --> 00:21:23,988 I've seen the police report to the coroner on Dr Hiaasen's death. 329 00:21:24,038 --> 00:21:27,478 It clearly suggests suicide. 330 00:21:27,518 --> 00:21:30,958 He was heavily in debt from gambling. 331 00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:33,038 Well, I won't believe that. 332 00:21:33,078 --> 00:21:36,012 Peter Hiaasen was too careful ever to gamble. 333 00:21:36,038 --> 00:21:38,348 And Dr Dayvis? 334 00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:40,132 How well did you know him? 335 00:21:41,598 --> 00:21:43,718 We saw each other every day. 336 00:21:45,598 --> 00:21:47,265 Do you have access to...? 337 00:21:47,266 --> 00:21:49,988 No, I can't help you. I can't! 338 00:21:50,038 --> 00:21:52,918 You have the information. 339 00:21:52,958 --> 00:21:55,825 - That's why you came to court. - No, you... 340 00:21:55,826 --> 00:21:59,148 You people, you don't care. 341 00:21:59,198 --> 00:22:03,268 Look, I can't help you. 342 00:22:03,318 --> 00:22:06,998 All right. I'll find another way. 343 00:22:07,038 --> 00:22:10,998 Sir Percy, do you know why you were summoned? 344 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:13,428 I understand to answer questions 345 00:22:13,478 --> 00:22:17,037 about the Home Office's planned response to bio-terrorism. 346 00:22:17,038 --> 00:22:20,508 Have you been intimately involved in planning that? 347 00:22:20,558 --> 00:22:22,077 As head of the Home Office Civil Service, 348 00:22:22,078 --> 00:22:23,837 it's part of my overall responsibility, yes. 349 00:22:23,838 --> 00:22:27,477 It's a bit more than that, Sir Percy. You were instrumental 350 00:22:27,478 --> 00:22:30,357 in drafting the Home Office's Civil Contingencies Act. 351 00:22:30,358 --> 00:22:31,998 I had a hand in it. 352 00:22:32,038 --> 00:22:35,437 - Dealing with pharmaceutical companies. - I didn't write the amendment bill. 353 00:22:35,438 --> 00:22:38,597 But you did call the Bristol Legal Services Commission, 354 00:22:38,598 --> 00:22:42,077 suggesting they withdraw the funding for Brian Meam to sue the drugs company? 355 00:22:42,078 --> 00:22:44,278 No. I do not believe I did. 356 00:22:44,318 --> 00:22:48,868 According to the manager there, someone in the Home Office did. 357 00:22:48,918 --> 00:22:50,437 PERCY: It's a large department. 358 00:22:50,438 --> 00:22:52,997 For which you have overall responsibility. 359 00:22:52,998 --> 00:22:55,038 But I don't task every action. 360 00:22:55,078 --> 00:22:57,545 Then who did, and on whose authority? 361 00:23:00,558 --> 00:23:02,548 Well, Sir Percy? 362 00:23:02,598 --> 00:23:04,398 I don't recall that detail. 363 00:23:04,399 --> 00:23:08,558 Fine. Then I'll give you time to think about it. 364 00:23:08,598 --> 00:23:12,908 Meanwhile, Mrs Mills and Sir Peter will examine you. Mrs Mills? 365 00:23:14,198 --> 00:23:19,798 What is the Home Office's provisional budget to counter bio-terrorism? 366 00:23:19,838 --> 00:23:22,038 I don't have the figures to hand. 367 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:23,068 Roughly? 368 00:23:23,118 --> 00:23:27,428 In the region of 4 billion. 369 00:23:27,478 --> 00:23:30,412 - To vaccinate everyone in the country? - No. 370 00:23:30,413 --> 00:23:33,828 The money is given to the Health Protection Agency 371 00:23:33,878 --> 00:23:35,677 to work with pharmaceutical companies. 372 00:23:35,678 --> 00:23:40,038 Bio-warfare vaccines are part of our overall policy plan. 373 00:23:40,078 --> 00:23:45,518 That must make you an awfully good friend to the big pharmaceutical companies. 374 00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:47,517 My Lord, although Sir Percy is not my witness, 375 00:23:47,518 --> 00:23:50,268 I do in fairness protest on his behalf. 376 00:23:50,318 --> 00:23:53,557 My learned friend is implying a venal relationship. I'm sure none exists. 377 00:23:53,558 --> 00:23:55,678 Mrs Mills, 378 00:23:55,718 --> 00:24:01,718 you are allowing your enthusiasm to carry you beyond the boundaries of this case. 379 00:24:03,278 --> 00:24:05,838 I have no further questions. 380 00:24:05,878 --> 00:24:07,228 Sir Peter. 381 00:24:09,518 --> 00:24:13,185 Sir Percy, what is the annual budget of the Home Office? 382 00:24:13,186 --> 00:24:17,118 - About 14 billion. - Which you spend personally? 383 00:24:17,158 --> 00:24:19,908 (LAUGHTER) 384 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:23,318 Let's get these astronomical sums in context. 385 00:24:23,358 --> 00:24:26,997 How much do you spend annually on prisons, to protect the public from offenders? 386 00:24:26,998 --> 00:24:28,188 2.6 billion. 387 00:24:28,238 --> 00:24:30,708 So then 4 billion to be spent 388 00:24:30,758 --> 00:24:34,308 protecting the whole of the nation against bio-warfare 389 00:24:34,358 --> 00:24:35,918 doesn't seem so much. 390 00:24:35,958 --> 00:24:39,492 - No, that's jolly good value. - Thank you, Sir Percy. 391 00:24:41,918 --> 00:24:45,518 Memory improved? 392 00:24:45,558 --> 00:24:49,628 We have 15,000 employees at the Home Office. 393 00:24:49,678 --> 00:24:51,988 For whom you have responsibility. 394 00:24:52,038 --> 00:24:56,238 Including the cleaners. I don't remember all their names either. 395 00:24:56,678 --> 00:25:02,068 Only a handful of people could have instructed Mr Cherry. 396 00:25:02,118 --> 00:25:04,518 Probably a member of your committee? 397 00:25:05,958 --> 00:25:08,628 No one candidate comes to mind? 398 00:25:08,678 --> 00:25:12,545 - I'm afraid not. - Then step down. We'll recall Mr Cherry. 399 00:25:12,585 --> 00:25:15,919 - Remain in court. - I do have a department to run. 400 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,323 You'll leave when we get satisfactory answers. 401 00:25:21,958 --> 00:25:24,825 Mr Cherry, please return to the witness box. 402 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:35,108 Remember, you are still under oath. 403 00:25:37,478 --> 00:25:39,948 Who at the Home Office called you 404 00:25:39,998 --> 00:25:45,438 to suggest you withdraw legal aid from Brian Meam? 405 00:25:45,478 --> 00:25:47,212 Well, I don't recall, sir. 406 00:25:48,438 --> 00:25:53,228 Mr Cherry, you are coming perilously close to prison. 407 00:25:56,038 --> 00:26:00,238 No, sir, I'm not sure he identified himself. 408 00:26:00,278 --> 00:26:03,878 What, you took instruction from an unidentified caller? 409 00:26:03,879 --> 00:26:06,599 Can you really be such a ninny? 410 00:26:17,558 --> 00:26:19,788 His name is Lex Wetcote. 411 00:26:19,838 --> 00:26:24,278 Ah. Not a name easily forgotten. 412 00:26:24,318 --> 00:26:28,308 Sir Percy, do you know this person? 413 00:26:28,358 --> 00:26:30,837 He's an undersecretary with the directorate. 414 00:26:30,838 --> 00:26:33,172 And what is that, in plain English? 415 00:26:33,173 --> 00:26:35,998 - He runs a few committees. - On what? 416 00:26:36,038 --> 00:26:39,028 Health policy, civil defence. 417 00:26:39,078 --> 00:26:41,388 Certain aspects of bio-terrorism. 418 00:26:43,198 --> 00:26:46,748 Then we'll get Mr Wetcote here, question him. 419 00:26:46,798 --> 00:26:50,677 And if I find he's been sent to New Zealand or some such place, 420 00:26:50,678 --> 00:26:52,012 there'll be trouble. 421 00:26:52,013 --> 00:26:54,348 Might I be permitted to leave now? 422 00:26:54,398 --> 00:26:57,868 No. We will rise and await Mr Wetcote's arrival. 423 00:26:59,438 --> 00:27:01,108 All rise. 424 00:27:02,318 --> 00:27:04,757 Oh, Judge, I thought you were going to throw them in jail! 425 00:27:04,758 --> 00:27:07,228 I came close, Coop. 426 00:27:09,518 --> 00:27:10,998 Thank you. 427 00:27:12,798 --> 00:27:15,548 They do serve excellent tea here. 428 00:27:17,918 --> 00:27:20,478 You seem remarkably relaxed. 429 00:27:20,518 --> 00:27:23,785 I'm confident that you can deal with things, Neil. 430 00:27:23,786 --> 00:27:25,388 Deed is insisting on me. 431 00:27:25,438 --> 00:27:29,705 Maybe we should wait till he drags you off in irons. If he dares. 432 00:27:30,958 --> 00:27:35,588 Can you put your Civil Contingencies amendment bill to bed? 433 00:27:35,638 --> 00:27:37,797 It's back to the Commons on Thursday. 434 00:27:37,798 --> 00:27:41,437 - That's the earliest we could fit it in. - Will it go through unimpeded? 435 00:27:41,438 --> 00:27:43,917 No-one's raised any objections to any of the sections. 436 00:27:43,918 --> 00:27:46,478 MPs are spooked by terrorist threats. 437 00:27:46,518 --> 00:27:49,318 It's a formality, Samuel. 438 00:27:49,358 --> 00:27:52,348 After that, Deed's efforts are meaningless. 439 00:27:52,398 --> 00:27:54,598 Ah, Deed, yes. 440 00:27:54,638 --> 00:27:58,437 Well, my researchers assure me that we have nothing to fear from Deed. 441 00:27:58,438 --> 00:28:01,172 He had sex with the claimant's barrister. 442 00:28:01,173 --> 00:28:04,558 That's happened many times. 443 00:28:04,598 --> 00:28:06,718 But it's not allowed, is it? 444 00:28:06,758 --> 00:28:09,958 We've been there before, Samuel. 445 00:28:09,998 --> 00:28:12,358 - It didn't dent him. - No. 446 00:28:12,398 --> 00:28:15,388 You've been there before without evidence. 447 00:28:16,958 --> 00:28:19,598 Ten days ago, in Mills's apartment. 448 00:28:19,638 --> 00:28:22,477 They talked about Justice Niven's handling of the case, 449 00:28:22,478 --> 00:28:25,388 how compelling her evidence had to be. 450 00:28:25,438 --> 00:28:28,572 And then the Beast of The Strand got his reward. 451 00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:44,068 Mr Wetcote, why is a Home Office undersecretary 452 00:28:44,118 --> 00:28:47,828 concerning himself with funding in a civil action? 453 00:28:47,878 --> 00:28:50,212 It's joined-up government, My Lord. 454 00:28:50,238 --> 00:28:54,839 Our experience in criminal justice makes us realise that courts of law 455 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,280 are not good places to settle highly contentious, big-money cases. 456 00:29:00,158 --> 00:29:05,438 You felt it your duty to withdraw funding that had been running for years 457 00:29:05,478 --> 00:29:07,478 with the case almost to court? 458 00:29:07,528 --> 00:29:09,607 The withdrawal of funding wasn't my decision. 459 00:29:09,608 --> 00:29:14,468 I saw a potential saving and invited consideration of my suggestions. 460 00:29:14,518 --> 00:29:16,957 Without consulting anyone in your department? 461 00:29:16,958 --> 00:29:18,838 It was my initiative. 462 00:29:18,878 --> 00:29:23,028 Do you know, Mr Wetcote, I don't think I believe you. 463 00:29:23,078 --> 00:29:27,388 Mrs Mills, would you like to examine this witness? 464 00:29:27,438 --> 00:29:29,108 JO: My Lord. 465 00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:32,292 The pharmaceutical companies that are developing 466 00:29:32,293 --> 00:29:35,118 the 4 billion bio-terrorist vaccines, 467 00:29:35,158 --> 00:29:40,277 are they also making the drugs that the Army is giving to its combat personnel? 468 00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:42,957 The Government has a well-developed policy for drug procurement. 469 00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:45,677 Inevitably, Caversham are involved in both elements. 470 00:29:45,678 --> 00:29:49,077 Did you have a conversation with someone about preventing Caversham being sued? 471 00:29:49,078 --> 00:29:51,677 I don't remember talking to anyone specifically about that. 472 00:29:51,678 --> 00:29:53,638 Unless I did it in my sleep. 473 00:29:53,678 --> 00:29:57,478 Are you in the habit of talking in your sleep, Mr Wetcote? 474 00:29:57,479 --> 00:30:02,279 No. Nor of sleeping with people I have an ethical duty not to sleep with. 475 00:30:11,358 --> 00:30:12,998 Mr Wetcote... 476 00:30:14,558 --> 00:30:18,558 I would like you to bring to court all the papers and e-mails 477 00:30:18,598 --> 00:30:22,665 that have passed between you and the pharmaceutical companies. 478 00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:25,838 And I mean all of them. 479 00:30:25,878 --> 00:30:28,238 - That's a mountain of paper. - Yes. 480 00:30:28,278 --> 00:30:32,357 Then let's hope the Home Office spends wisely on its haulage firm. 481 00:30:32,358 --> 00:30:35,077 My Lord, I know the hour is late, but might I examine this witness? 482 00:30:35,078 --> 00:30:38,708 There will be ample time for all of us tomorrow. 483 00:30:38,758 --> 00:30:40,238 All rise. 484 00:30:43,278 --> 00:30:45,078 This is madness, Percy. 485 00:30:45,118 --> 00:30:47,678 We can't show some of those memos. 486 00:30:47,718 --> 00:30:49,148 Of course we can. 487 00:30:50,598 --> 00:30:54,532 Mrs Mills, Sir Peter, the judge wonders if you can join him. 488 00:30:54,533 --> 00:30:58,467 I certainly can't. Apologies. I'm frightfully late as it is. 489 00:31:01,638 --> 00:31:03,305 Sir Peter regrets, Judge. 490 00:31:03,318 --> 00:31:05,318 He's late for another meeting. 491 00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:07,268 Ah. 492 00:31:07,318 --> 00:31:10,585 In that case you'd best stay, Coop, ave some tea. 493 00:31:10,586 --> 00:31:11,518 Thank you. 494 00:31:11,558 --> 00:31:15,788 I don't know how much longer we can let this continue, Jo. 495 00:31:15,838 --> 00:31:20,557 That was to have been the nature of my conversation with you and Peter Dulford. 496 00:31:20,558 --> 00:31:22,277 You can guess where he's gone. 497 00:31:22,278 --> 00:31:23,877 Yeah. To take instructions. 498 00:31:23,878 --> 00:31:26,677 To make sure the Home Office resists bringing any papers into the court. 499 00:31:26,678 --> 00:31:29,668 Especially those suggesting complicity. 500 00:31:29,718 --> 00:31:33,637 You know there is. Just as you know that man's death wasn't coincidental. 501 00:31:33,638 --> 00:31:37,477 Not unless you could show it. Peter Dulford will argue that first thing. 502 00:31:37,478 --> 00:31:40,197 I feel like I'm choking on the injustice of it. 503 00:31:40,198 --> 00:31:43,037 What about Liffe? Won't he help? We can offer him protection. 504 00:31:43,038 --> 00:31:44,677 I don't think that will convince him. 505 00:31:44,678 --> 00:31:46,717 What I need are Dr Dayvis's papers. 506 00:31:46,718 --> 00:31:49,637 I can only pray that they turn up with the Home Office papers. 507 00:31:49,638 --> 00:31:52,477 Unless I know they have a copy, I can't ask for them. 508 00:31:52,478 --> 00:31:55,917 Well, perhaps Sir Percy Thrower will let something slip. 509 00:31:55,918 --> 00:32:00,198 Like the Civil Contingencies amendment bill that he didn't write. 510 00:32:00,238 --> 00:32:01,997 - What amendment? - Don't ask me. 511 00:32:01,998 --> 00:32:04,917 I'm struggling to keep up with the criminal justice legislation 512 00:32:04,918 --> 00:32:06,557 spilling out of the Home Office. 513 00:32:06,558 --> 00:32:10,677 As I have to say are most barristers. 600 new crimes in ten years! 514 00:32:10,678 --> 00:32:12,812 Check the website, Coop, please. 515 00:32:12,852 --> 00:32:15,252 We were briefed on the original act. 516 00:32:15,292 --> 00:32:17,998 It imposes duties on local authorities 517 00:32:18,038 --> 00:32:20,998 in the event of a breakdown in public order 518 00:32:21,038 --> 00:32:23,868 following an event like bio-terrorism. 519 00:32:23,918 --> 00:32:27,118 What is the add-on plan? Put everybody in prison? 520 00:32:27,158 --> 00:32:28,798 It's 38 pages, Judge. 521 00:32:28,838 --> 00:32:31,238 - We just need the amendment. - Yeah. 522 00:32:31,239 --> 00:32:35,229 - 54 sections and loads of schedules. - Oh, great(!) 523 00:32:36,838 --> 00:32:38,318 Thanks, Coop. 524 00:32:41,958 --> 00:32:43,918 JOHN: Section 27 - 525 00:32:43,958 --> 00:32:46,758 Schedule 3. Extension of Crown immunity. 526 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:49,838 Any organisation, private or public, 527 00:32:49,878 --> 00:32:54,948 designated by the minister as within the terms of Section 42.1. 528 00:33:01,158 --> 00:33:05,492 Pharmaceutical production and development? Why are they protected? 529 00:33:05,493 --> 00:33:08,318 They make bio-terrorism vaccines. 530 00:33:08,358 --> 00:33:10,477 You know what this means, don't you? 531 00:33:10,478 --> 00:33:12,557 They can't be sued if the vaccines go wrong. 532 00:33:12,558 --> 00:33:13,825 No. More than that. 533 00:33:13,838 --> 00:33:17,237 If it goes through like this, it will have retrospective action. 534 00:33:17,238 --> 00:33:22,117 You won't ever be able to sue Caversham or any other pharmaceutical company. 535 00:33:22,118 --> 00:33:24,237 But then why has no-one ever protested? 536 00:33:24,238 --> 00:33:27,677 Because it's hidden away, seemingly innocuous. This is momentous. 537 00:33:27,678 --> 00:33:30,717 If this bill goes through like this on Thursday, you're dead in the water. 538 00:33:30,718 --> 00:33:32,452 The Lords will hold it up. 539 00:33:32,453 --> 00:33:36,958 It's already been through its committee stages there, Mrs Mills. 540 00:33:36,998 --> 00:33:40,197 - John, they can't get away with this. - Well, they did in America. 541 00:33:40,198 --> 00:33:44,532 They slipped just such a clause into the Homeland Securities Bill. 542 00:33:46,038 --> 00:33:48,838 Find a witness, prove your case. 543 00:33:48,878 --> 00:33:52,788 I'll try to hold up the passage of the bill from the court. 544 00:33:54,398 --> 00:33:56,548 No, no. It can't be done. 545 00:33:56,598 --> 00:33:58,318 A step too far. 546 00:33:58,358 --> 00:34:01,108 We'd be thwarting the will of Parliament. 547 00:34:01,158 --> 00:34:06,158 That would cause a constitutional crisis the like of which has not been seen 548 00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:09,668 since... since the Reformation! 549 00:34:09,718 --> 00:34:13,077 That's how important this is. The loss of the right of one individual 550 00:34:13,078 --> 00:34:16,757 to seek redress through the courts with thousands of possible cases pending. 551 00:34:16,758 --> 00:34:21,359 Protection against a corporately arrogant executive is that important. 552 00:34:21,598 --> 00:34:23,348 Yes, well... 553 00:34:23,398 --> 00:34:25,388 The case has to be solid. 554 00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,588 Help me with this one, Joe. 555 00:34:27,638 --> 00:34:31,905 There's still plenty of good law to stop a development like this. 556 00:34:32,518 --> 00:34:34,828 We must check the evidence. 557 00:34:37,318 --> 00:34:39,468 Got to go. 558 00:34:39,878 --> 00:34:41,758 (LAUGHTER) 559 00:34:41,798 --> 00:34:45,508 Neil. What are you doing? I thought you were coming up. 560 00:34:45,558 --> 00:34:51,078 I'm listening to your ex dig his own grave, judicially speaking. 561 00:34:51,118 --> 00:34:53,588 What? 562 00:34:53,638 --> 00:34:55,518 Let me hear. 563 00:34:58,038 --> 00:35:01,508 Wait... There. 564 00:35:06,278 --> 00:35:07,788 Is it real? 565 00:35:07,838 --> 00:35:09,318 I don't believe it. 566 00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:12,717 Oh, George, it's real, as real and happening as can be! 567 00:35:12,718 --> 00:35:15,108 What are you going to do with it? 568 00:35:15,158 --> 00:35:16,748 The most harm possible. 569 00:35:20,678 --> 00:35:23,108 (PHONE RINGS) 570 00:35:25,158 --> 00:35:26,638 How's your case? 571 00:35:26,678 --> 00:35:28,318 Big and getting bigger. 572 00:35:28,358 --> 00:35:30,625 I got your message. Why so secret? 573 00:35:30,665 --> 00:35:33,304 - I don't want to risk the phone. - What, it's bugged? 574 00:35:33,305 --> 00:35:34,558 Paranoid! 575 00:35:34,598 --> 00:35:38,237 Talk to your grandad, Chas. I want you to give him some help on this case. 576 00:35:38,238 --> 00:35:40,797 - I'm up to my eyes, Dad. - If we don't stop what's happening... 577 00:35:40,798 --> 00:35:43,628 - Oh, but Dad...! - Do it, Chas. 578 00:35:43,678 --> 00:35:45,508 I've got to go. 579 00:35:47,518 --> 00:35:49,398 (RINGS DOORBELL) 580 00:35:53,038 --> 00:35:55,028 Can I come in? 581 00:35:55,078 --> 00:35:58,012 Why did you come back? I have nothing to say. 582 00:35:58,062 --> 00:36:00,981 You may be the last chance these soldiers and their families have. 583 00:36:00,982 --> 00:36:03,388 I'm sorry, Mr Deed. 584 00:36:03,438 --> 00:36:06,668 I haven't got anywhere else to go. 585 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:17,305 I'm scared of what will happen if I help you get Dr Dayvis's papers. 586 00:36:17,306 --> 00:36:19,718 The court can protect you. 587 00:36:19,758 --> 00:36:21,958 It's the only way. 588 00:36:21,998 --> 00:36:26,157 There's a bill about to complete its passage through Parliament. 589 00:36:26,158 --> 00:36:30,092 It will stop anyone ever suing the pharmaceutical companies. 590 00:36:30,093 --> 00:36:34,108 - You can't stop these people. - We might, if we expose this. 591 00:36:34,158 --> 00:36:35,668 They will kill me. 592 00:36:35,718 --> 00:36:37,948 Not once the information's out. 593 00:36:37,998 --> 00:36:41,308 - I don't have it! - Does it exist? 594 00:36:42,878 --> 00:36:45,028 Did Dr Dayvis have the facts? 595 00:36:45,078 --> 00:36:51,158 Security people from Caversham... took all his papers and computer. 596 00:36:52,238 --> 00:36:54,148 There must have been a copy. 597 00:36:54,198 --> 00:36:56,132 He made copies of everything. 598 00:36:57,478 --> 00:37:00,068 Well, did Caversham take everything? 599 00:37:06,678 --> 00:37:08,878 He did have a back-up hard drive. 600 00:37:10,838 --> 00:37:12,558 Well, have you got it? 601 00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:14,558 Is it here? 602 00:37:19,438 --> 00:37:21,238 Well, that's the good news. 603 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,188 He's getting the hard drive. 604 00:37:23,238 --> 00:37:25,838 We'd better give Mr Butler the bad news 605 00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:28,773 about Deed trying to stop the amendment bill. 606 00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:56,668 - CHARLIE: Hello. - Charlie, it's me. 607 00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:07,358 I thought we might go for dinner. 608 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:10,788 I have to finish this. Dad needs it urgently. 609 00:38:10,838 --> 00:38:12,505 Have you seen him lately? 610 00:38:12,506 --> 00:38:15,388 I'm flat out with this case in Bristol. 611 00:38:15,438 --> 00:38:17,305 Is he still seeing Jo Mills? 612 00:38:17,306 --> 00:38:18,548 I doubt it. 613 00:38:18,598 --> 00:38:21,998 She's before him in a case. He'd be in real trouble. 614 00:38:21,999 --> 00:38:24,708 I think he is in real trouble. 615 00:38:24,758 --> 00:38:26,625 Nothing unusual there, then. 616 00:38:28,478 --> 00:38:31,212 This time might be a little more serious. 617 00:38:33,198 --> 00:38:39,508 Neil has a recording of the Deed and Jo Mills having sex in her apartment. 618 00:38:39,558 --> 00:38:40,678 How? 619 00:38:40,718 --> 00:38:44,108 Normally, Charlie, he does it with a lot of charm. 620 00:38:44,158 --> 00:38:45,957 This time he was a little less charming. 621 00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:48,188 How did they get the recording? 622 00:38:48,238 --> 00:38:50,308 Neil wouldn't say. 623 00:38:50,358 --> 00:38:52,197 But they talk about the case starting. 624 00:38:52,198 --> 00:38:54,332 Is it real? This could ruin Dad. 625 00:38:54,382 --> 00:38:57,822 From the way Neil's feeling, I'd say it was real. 626 00:38:57,862 --> 00:38:59,988 He's so stupid! 627 00:39:00,038 --> 00:39:01,948 I have to go and warn him. 628 00:39:01,998 --> 00:39:03,478 I thought you might. 629 00:39:09,998 --> 00:39:12,308 Someone's bugged your apartment. 630 00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:17,308 I feel sick. 631 00:39:17,358 --> 00:39:20,717 Neil Haughton hates Dad. He's going to release that recording. 632 00:39:20,718 --> 00:39:22,308 Did you warn John? 633 00:39:22,358 --> 00:39:24,025 His phone's switched off. 634 00:39:24,026 --> 00:39:28,026 I didn't want to leave a message in case that was bugged too. 635 00:39:30,238 --> 00:39:31,718 What a mess. 636 00:39:43,918 --> 00:39:46,748 Goodness, didn't you go to bed? 637 00:39:46,798 --> 00:39:49,438 No. 638 00:39:49,478 --> 00:39:52,078 Mrs Mills is trying to get hold of you. 639 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:55,546 She didn't call. She thinks her phone's being bugged. 640 00:39:57,598 --> 00:39:59,558 Um... 641 00:39:59,598 --> 00:40:02,478 Right. Get her to meet me in the car park. 642 00:40:02,518 --> 00:40:05,508 They can't have bugged that yet! 643 00:40:08,038 --> 00:40:10,108 I'm sorry I got you into this. 644 00:40:17,078 --> 00:40:19,228 Are we any further with Dayvis? 645 00:40:20,878 --> 00:40:23,308 Yes. I got hold of his hard drive. 646 00:40:25,758 --> 00:40:29,625 I'm no scientist, Jo, but it looks like the drugs are safe. 647 00:40:29,626 --> 00:40:32,293 He couldn't repeat his earlier findings. 648 00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:36,638 Is this authentic? 649 00:40:36,678 --> 00:40:38,398 As a two-pound coin. 650 00:40:39,958 --> 00:40:42,092 You'll have to report it, Peter. 651 00:40:43,918 --> 00:40:47,985 Sir Peter Dulford would like to see you and Sir Joseph. Alone. 652 00:40:47,986 --> 00:40:48,868 Oh! 653 00:40:48,918 --> 00:40:51,228 Tell him to wait. 654 00:40:51,278 --> 00:40:52,812 I'll talk to you later. 655 00:40:57,078 --> 00:40:59,988 Are the parties in the internet case here? 656 00:41:00,038 --> 00:41:02,708 - Only Ian McCartney. - Oh. Oh, well... 657 00:41:02,758 --> 00:41:04,478 No, no! 658 00:41:06,238 --> 00:41:09,172 Ask Ian McCartney to come in here, would you? 659 00:41:14,318 --> 00:41:16,958 How did that happen? 660 00:41:16,998 --> 00:41:20,828 In a car crash when I was ten. 661 00:41:20,878 --> 00:41:23,348 My parents were killed. 662 00:41:23,398 --> 00:41:27,438 That's a lot for a ten-year-old to overcome. 663 00:41:27,478 --> 00:41:28,668 Yeah. 664 00:41:30,798 --> 00:41:34,478 There were times where I felt like... giving up. 665 00:41:36,038 --> 00:41:37,637 You know, people think it's just 666 00:41:37,638 --> 00:41:40,638 losing your parents or not being able to walk, 667 00:41:40,678 --> 00:41:44,388 but... actually, you can overcome that. 668 00:41:45,958 --> 00:41:49,225 It's the loss of hope that really brings you down. 669 00:41:51,918 --> 00:41:54,585 Then I learned I was good with computers 670 00:41:54,586 --> 00:41:59,376 and the world opened up to me there. Changed everything. 671 00:42:01,998 --> 00:42:05,708 Internet Raiders have offered me 5 million. 672 00:42:05,758 --> 00:42:08,118 I'm not sure if that's enough. 673 00:42:08,158 --> 00:42:09,908 It's a lot of money. 674 00:42:09,958 --> 00:42:13,748 I have a good case, and time. 675 00:42:13,798 --> 00:42:18,668 Did you ever dream of having? 5 million? 676 00:42:18,718 --> 00:42:22,548 Off the record... no. 677 00:42:22,598 --> 00:42:25,198 Anything can happen in a two-year trial. 678 00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,559 Take the money. 679 00:42:33,758 --> 00:42:37,438 Is it possible to look at a computer hard disk 680 00:42:37,478 --> 00:42:41,145 and see if its contents are camouflaging something else? 681 00:42:41,146 --> 00:42:42,816 What do you mean? 682 00:42:46,518 --> 00:42:48,828 Two people may have died 683 00:42:48,878 --> 00:42:52,428 because of what was assumed to be on this disk. 684 00:42:52,478 --> 00:42:55,838 What's there now is insignificant. 685 00:42:55,878 --> 00:42:57,518 Were they bumped off? 686 00:42:57,558 --> 00:43:00,092 That's a possibility we're looking at. 687 00:43:02,758 --> 00:43:07,228 So you want to know if a file on this as been changed in some way? 688 00:43:07,278 --> 00:43:09,877 I want to know what's there that could have got two men killed. 689 00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:12,108 There's got to be something else. 690 00:43:12,158 --> 00:43:14,077 Have you searched the drive for hidden files? 691 00:43:14,078 --> 00:43:16,468 I wouldn't know how, Mr McCartney. 692 00:43:16,518 --> 00:43:18,668 Will you help us? 693 00:43:20,238 --> 00:43:21,508 Yes. 694 00:43:24,798 --> 00:43:26,918 Tell Coop if you find anything. 695 00:43:33,438 --> 00:43:34,918 All rise. 696 00:43:45,318 --> 00:43:49,708 My Lord, I would rather this matter was raised in your chambers. 697 00:43:49,758 --> 00:43:53,068 We can sit here in chambers. 698 00:43:53,118 --> 00:43:55,318 Clear the public gallery, please. 699 00:44:04,478 --> 00:44:06,148 Sir Peter? 700 00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:15,188 It'll keep, My Lord. 701 00:44:15,238 --> 00:44:17,388 Then I'll have the public back. 702 00:44:21,318 --> 00:44:25,108 However, there is a matter of law. 703 00:44:25,158 --> 00:44:28,692 We dispute the right of the trial judges to be partial 704 00:44:28,693 --> 00:44:31,268 in the choice of witnesses they call. 705 00:44:31,318 --> 00:44:36,452 The common law does not admit to this being done without the parties' consent. 706 00:44:36,453 --> 00:44:42,628 I refer your Lordships to Re Enoch and Zaretsky, Bock and Co in a case from 1910, 707 00:44:42,678 --> 00:44:48,068 reported in the first volume of the King's Bench reports at page 327. 708 00:44:48,118 --> 00:44:52,397 Yes, Sir Peter, but providing we act within the over-riding objective principle 709 00:44:52,398 --> 00:44:55,388 of dealing with the case justly, 710 00:44:55,438 --> 00:45:03,358 rule 32.1 means we can ask for any witness we deem relevant. 711 00:45:03,398 --> 00:45:06,548 "Joined-up justice", I believe it's called. 712 00:45:08,358 --> 00:45:09,838 My Lord. 713 00:45:14,598 --> 00:45:18,932 We would like Samuel Butler, the CEO of Caversham Pharmaceuticals, 714 00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:20,267 to answer questions. 715 00:45:20,293 --> 00:45:22,638 Is this witness even available? 716 00:45:23,678 --> 00:45:26,398 Well, we'll adjourn until he is. 717 00:45:26,438 --> 00:45:28,508 All rise. 718 00:45:29,598 --> 00:45:34,438 The longer Deed takes, the closer our amendments come to being law. 719 00:45:34,478 --> 00:45:36,438 It's a risky game, Percy. 720 00:45:42,518 --> 00:45:44,348 Did you find anything? 721 00:45:44,398 --> 00:45:46,038 There's a hidden file. 722 00:45:46,078 --> 00:45:49,358 Yes! Yes! Yes! 723 00:45:49,398 --> 00:45:50,798 But it's encrypted. 724 00:45:53,758 --> 00:45:58,748 Mr Butler, do you ever market drugs with adverse reactions? 725 00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:03,028 Of course. Most drugs cause some adverse reactions. 726 00:46:03,078 --> 00:46:06,438 This is the price we pay for the greater good. 727 00:46:06,478 --> 00:46:09,358 Caversham is an ethical company. 728 00:46:09,398 --> 00:46:11,997 We've never purposely obtained a licence for a drug 729 00:46:11,998 --> 00:46:15,628 which we knew to have severe adverse reactions. 730 00:46:15,678 --> 00:46:20,708 Yes, but isn't it a matter of record that your anti-arthritis drug... 731 00:46:21,758 --> 00:46:27,788 ...Kalite was shown to damage the hearts of patients in certain trials? 732 00:46:27,838 --> 00:46:30,757 I wasn't with Caversham when that drug was launched. 733 00:46:30,758 --> 00:46:32,798 Oh. Well, then step down. 734 00:46:32,838 --> 00:46:36,772 We'll call someone with a comprehensive view of the company. 735 00:46:42,758 --> 00:46:46,092 It's a simple encryption. It's just time-consuming. 736 00:46:46,142 --> 00:46:48,541 - Well, how long will it take? - I'm going to break it. 737 00:46:48,542 --> 00:46:51,238 It may be too late. 738 00:46:51,278 --> 00:46:53,745 Whoever did this is quite smart, sir. 739 00:46:53,746 --> 00:46:55,226 Perhaps too smart. 740 00:46:58,398 --> 00:47:01,038 The Home Secretary, Judge. 741 00:47:05,438 --> 00:47:08,988 - Neil, I've been expecting you. - Oh, you have? 742 00:47:09,038 --> 00:47:11,948 Yes, you want your civil servants back. 743 00:47:11,998 --> 00:47:14,997 - Not until I get the truth. - This is not about my civil servants. 744 00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:16,878 Things have moved on. 745 00:47:16,918 --> 00:47:21,788 There's a tape of you conspiring with Mrs Mills - among other things - 746 00:47:21,838 --> 00:47:23,798 prior to the start of this. 747 00:47:25,358 --> 00:47:27,718 Obtained how? 748 00:47:27,758 --> 00:47:31,358 I imagine one of Mrs Mills's many enemies recorded you. 749 00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:33,828 A matter of national security? 750 00:47:33,878 --> 00:47:37,078 She certainly behaves like an enemy of the state. 751 00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:38,548 And me? 752 00:47:38,598 --> 00:47:43,068 Rather foolish, I think, is how the world will judge you. 753 00:47:43,118 --> 00:47:45,238 For George's sake, 754 00:47:45,278 --> 00:47:47,078 and Charlie's, 755 00:47:47,118 --> 00:47:50,028 I'd rather you stepped down. 756 00:47:50,078 --> 00:47:53,198 You could not release the tape. 757 00:47:54,358 --> 00:47:55,708 No. 758 00:47:55,758 --> 00:47:58,188 I've waited too long. 759 00:48:00,318 --> 00:48:03,548 Well, thank you for your consideration, Neil. 760 00:48:03,598 --> 00:48:06,188 He's done it, Judge. 761 00:48:06,238 --> 00:48:09,198 I'll certainly think about what you said. 762 00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:16,625 You got through the encryption? 763 00:48:16,626 --> 00:48:17,976 Of course. 764 00:48:19,438 --> 00:48:22,557 - Is this what you're looking for? - I certainly hope it is. 765 00:48:22,558 --> 00:48:24,917 McCARTNEY: Well, only the person who wrote it would know. 766 00:48:24,918 --> 00:48:26,917 Coop, run and catch Mrs Mills and Sir Peter, 767 00:48:26,918 --> 00:48:30,252 and I want Dr David Liffe brought here immediately. 768 00:48:30,253 --> 00:48:31,733 Yes! 769 00:48:39,438 --> 00:48:41,277 Can you come to any conclusion, Dr Liffe? 770 00:48:41,278 --> 00:48:43,708 What conclusion do you want? 771 00:48:43,758 --> 00:48:50,388 What are Dr Dayvis's conclusions about the drugs given to soldiers by the Army? 772 00:48:50,438 --> 00:48:52,478 Looking at the raw data... 773 00:48:52,518 --> 00:48:56,585 what he found was that he couldn't repeat his earlier findings 774 00:48:56,586 --> 00:48:58,453 produced by him and Dr Moon. 775 00:49:03,758 --> 00:49:06,692 Do you recognise these as Dr Dayvis's papers? 776 00:49:06,693 --> 00:49:09,363 Yes. I know his work. 777 00:49:09,998 --> 00:49:13,597 It often happens that the results of an exciting discovery can't be replicated. 778 00:49:13,598 --> 00:49:16,932 My Lord, in view of this incontrovertible evidence, 779 00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:20,333 I ask that Mr Justice Niven's judgment ow be upheld. 780 00:49:24,118 --> 00:49:26,948 No. We will rise for 30 minutes. 781 00:49:26,998 --> 00:49:29,228 All rise. 782 00:49:31,718 --> 00:49:34,518 John, this cannot continue! 783 00:49:34,558 --> 00:49:38,028 The longer it goes on, the more foolish we appear. 784 00:49:38,078 --> 00:49:39,798 I know, Joe. 785 00:49:39,838 --> 00:49:42,958 You did your best. You tried. 786 00:49:42,998 --> 00:49:44,478 End it! 787 00:49:53,918 --> 00:49:56,718 Are you all right, Judge? 788 00:49:56,758 --> 00:49:58,828 We ran headlong into that. 789 00:50:00,638 --> 00:50:02,598 Well, if you ask me, Judge, 790 00:50:02,638 --> 00:50:06,468 Dr Moon's working for Caversham and she put it there. 791 00:50:06,518 --> 00:50:09,158 It's too late to find out. 792 00:50:09,198 --> 00:50:14,398 Tomorrow the amendment bill will pass its last hurdle through Parliament and... 793 00:50:15,958 --> 00:50:19,788 I'd better have the parties in the internet case back. 794 00:50:19,838 --> 00:50:21,318 Yes, Judge. 795 00:50:33,558 --> 00:50:37,477 Could someone have planted that information on Dr Dayvis's computer 796 00:50:37,478 --> 00:50:39,838 about the drugs being harmless? 797 00:50:39,878 --> 00:50:44,398 Technically? Yeah, of course, but that doesn't help the Judge. 798 00:50:44,438 --> 00:50:47,997 - How could they do that? - Well, it's pretty simple, really. 799 00:50:47,998 --> 00:50:51,397 You just change the file, resave it and delete all the back-ups. 800 00:50:51,398 --> 00:50:53,548 Well, can't you get them back? 801 00:50:53,598 --> 00:50:55,998 That wasn't what I was trying to do. 802 00:50:59,838 --> 00:51:02,505 I'd need access to the hard drive again. 803 00:51:02,506 --> 00:51:04,706 You're wanted back in court. 804 00:51:05,838 --> 00:51:07,572 Isn't this more important? 805 00:51:09,318 --> 00:51:12,148 Are we back on, Mrs Cooper? 806 00:51:12,198 --> 00:51:14,318 Um, he needs the bathroom. 807 00:51:24,998 --> 00:51:27,118 (PHONE RINGS) 808 00:51:28,198 --> 00:51:30,788 Mr Justice Deed's chambers. 809 00:51:30,838 --> 00:51:32,597 I hate to press you, Mr McCartney, 810 00:51:32,598 --> 00:51:35,357 but I can't keep these barristers waiting much longer. 811 00:51:35,358 --> 00:51:37,557 Sir Joseph wants to know when we're going back in. 812 00:51:37,558 --> 00:51:39,518 Mr McCartney? 813 00:51:39,558 --> 00:51:42,308 Is that what you need? 814 00:51:42,358 --> 00:51:44,692 I retrieved it from the hard drive. 815 00:51:44,718 --> 00:51:47,918 It's Dr Dayvis's back-up. Someone had deleted it. 816 00:51:47,919 --> 00:51:49,948 Coop, get hold of Stephen. 817 00:51:49,998 --> 00:51:52,558 Tell him... No, I'll do it myself. 818 00:51:52,598 --> 00:51:56,748 Stephen! Go and get Dr Moon and bring her to court immediately. 819 00:51:56,798 --> 00:51:59,798 - What if she won't come, Judge? - Arrest her. 820 00:52:12,998 --> 00:52:16,198 Dr Moon, have you had time to examine the papers? 821 00:52:20,838 --> 00:52:23,588 I have nothing to say. I can't help you. 822 00:52:25,158 --> 00:52:29,628 Are these papers the findings you and Dr Dayvis made 823 00:52:29,678 --> 00:52:33,078 regarding the cocktail of drugs soldiers were given? 824 00:52:43,438 --> 00:52:47,172 - Dr Moon, has anyone threatened you? - PETER: My Lord... 825 00:52:50,798 --> 00:52:53,548 Dr Moon, I advise you to answer. 826 00:52:55,118 --> 00:52:56,868 No-one's threatened me. 827 00:52:56,918 --> 00:52:59,719 - Are they the papers? - They appear to be. 828 00:52:59,758 --> 00:53:01,748 Did you not conclude 829 00:53:01,798 --> 00:53:07,638 that the drugs were causing neural deficit in some soldiers? 830 00:53:07,678 --> 00:53:12,798 And didn't you repeat those findings again, and again, and again? 831 00:53:12,838 --> 00:53:15,988 I told you, I have nothing to say. 832 00:53:19,158 --> 00:53:23,518 Then is this paper a fabrication? 833 00:53:23,558 --> 00:53:26,825 Hmm? Were you not able to replicate your findings? 834 00:53:34,518 --> 00:53:36,188 Dr Moon? 835 00:53:37,438 --> 00:53:38,758 Well, Dr Moon? 836 00:53:44,438 --> 00:53:45,668 Yes. 837 00:53:47,718 --> 00:53:49,758 Yes, we did. 838 00:53:49,798 --> 00:53:52,228 Again and again. 839 00:53:52,278 --> 00:53:57,588 Dr Dayvis wasn't satisfied with replicating it just once. He... 840 00:53:58,638 --> 00:54:00,918 ...did it again and again. 841 00:54:02,838 --> 00:54:07,708 The vaccination regime the Government and the pharmaceutical company 842 00:54:07,758 --> 00:54:13,678 are proposing to give the whole country in the event of a bio-terror attack 843 00:54:13,718 --> 00:54:18,668 would cause neural deficit in two to three persons per 1,000. 844 00:54:18,718 --> 00:54:21,317 The damage to children would be much higher. 845 00:54:21,318 --> 00:54:23,908 Is this what happened to Brian Meam? 846 00:54:23,958 --> 00:54:26,628 I never examined Mr Meam, but... 847 00:54:26,678 --> 00:54:28,958 we did see this in... 848 00:54:28,998 --> 00:54:31,198 several dozen other soldiers. 849 00:54:32,758 --> 00:54:33,948 Thank you. 850 00:54:35,638 --> 00:54:41,028 They knew this would happen after the very first soldiers got ill. 851 00:54:41,078 --> 00:54:42,398 Caversham knew? 852 00:54:44,838 --> 00:54:46,908 And the Government. 853 00:54:46,958 --> 00:54:50,625 That was what Dr Dayvis's big fight with them was about. 854 00:54:50,638 --> 00:54:53,358 I believe... 855 00:54:53,398 --> 00:54:54,799 that was why he died. 856 00:54:55,958 --> 00:54:57,917 JOHN: We may have only won the battle. 857 00:54:57,918 --> 00:55:01,277 Well, if the MPs have got the information, they could stop the bill. 858 00:55:01,278 --> 00:55:03,268 I wonder... 859 00:55:03,318 --> 00:55:06,117 - What's happening? - He hasn't stopped all day. 860 00:55:06,118 --> 00:55:09,077 - Have you sent the e-mails? - You should rest, Ian. You're exhausted. 861 00:55:09,078 --> 00:55:10,508 They've gone, sir. 862 00:55:10,558 --> 00:55:15,077 I alerted all the MPs and every member of the House of Lords and all the news desks. 863 00:55:15,078 --> 00:55:18,157 The information was highlighted with your comments on the bill. 864 00:55:18,158 --> 00:55:20,959 - Let's hope they read them. - Please, God. 865 00:55:20,998 --> 00:55:22,558 Amen. 866 00:55:23,558 --> 00:55:27,797 GEORGE: You know, Neil will release the recording unless you resign. 867 00:55:27,798 --> 00:55:30,197 Obtaining it may have been an offence, George. 868 00:55:30,198 --> 00:55:32,437 You can't rely on the law to protect you, John. 869 00:55:32,438 --> 00:55:34,317 Yeah, I told him I'd think about it. 870 00:55:34,318 --> 00:55:36,917 - That's all you'll do. - Well, you know me, George. 871 00:55:36,918 --> 00:55:39,757 I always expect the best of everybody. Are you going my way? 872 00:55:39,758 --> 00:55:41,638 I don't think so. 873 00:55:41,678 --> 00:55:44,278 It might end up on someone's recording! 874 00:55:46,478 --> 00:55:50,468 Find out who put the bug in Jo Mills's flat. 875 00:55:50,518 --> 00:55:52,948 Well, I can try, Judge. 876 00:55:56,118 --> 00:55:58,157 That amendment bill should have been a formality. 877 00:55:58,158 --> 00:56:00,038 Not after Deed's e-mail. 878 00:56:00,078 --> 00:56:03,478 Isn't that beyond the bounds of his duty as a judge? 879 00:56:03,479 --> 00:56:04,228 Oh, it is. 880 00:56:04,278 --> 00:56:07,037 Then release the tape of him having sex with Mrs Mills. 881 00:56:07,038 --> 00:56:08,717 We'll put a stop to this case yet. 882 00:56:08,718 --> 00:56:12,385 If we do, Home Secretary, it could come back to bite us. 883 00:56:12,386 --> 00:56:16,386 You personally steered the Civil Contingencies amendment bill 884 00:56:16,387 --> 00:56:18,599 to the floor of the House. 885 00:56:22,518 --> 00:56:27,068 The Legal Services Commission is right in its approach 886 00:56:27,118 --> 00:56:29,078 not to fund every case, 887 00:56:29,118 --> 00:56:33,798 having a duty of prudence with the taxpayers' money. 888 00:56:33,838 --> 00:56:38,439 In the case of Brian Meam, its exercise of discretion was contestable. 889 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,718 We've carefully examined the judicial review conducted by Mr Justice Niven 890 00:56:43,758 --> 00:56:48,228 and find it was open to legitimate objection. 891 00:56:48,278 --> 00:56:52,718 Not on the basis that there was any appearance of bias, 892 00:56:52,758 --> 00:56:59,468 rather because a keystone of his judgment had, unbeknown to him, been falsified. 893 00:56:59,518 --> 00:57:01,748 Our view, therefore, 894 00:57:01,798 --> 00:57:07,028 is that the Legal Services Commission should look again at this matter 895 00:57:07,078 --> 00:57:14,478 with a view to restoring the funding for this important case. 896 00:57:24,118 --> 00:57:25,998 That's Major Colby. 897 00:57:29,718 --> 00:57:32,388 With Superintendent Gaghan. 898 00:57:36,318 --> 00:57:40,468 Any luck with identifying his fingerprints yet, Superintendent? 899 00:57:40,518 --> 00:57:43,319 You might try asking these police officers. 900 00:57:45,078 --> 00:57:49,518 They're here to interview you both about the death of Dr Hiaasen. 901 00:57:49,558 --> 00:57:54,892 And get those bugs out of Jo Mills's flat or I promise you you will go to prison. 902 00:58:15,038 --> 00:58:18,078 You're taking a big risk coming here. 903 00:58:18,118 --> 00:58:21,452 Yes, the man in the gabardine suit really is a spy. 904 00:58:24,798 --> 00:58:26,332 Do you want to come up? 905 00:58:28,318 --> 00:58:32,785 Well, you never know who might be listening. We could go to a hotel. 906 00:58:32,786 --> 00:58:33,628 What, now? 907 00:58:33,678 --> 00:58:35,508 To have tea! 908 00:58:35,558 --> 00:58:37,825 It would have to be very good tea. 909 00:58:39,278 --> 00:58:40,545 Is your car bugged? 910 00:58:40,546 --> 00:58:42,906 JOHN: Let's not get too paranoid. 73808

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