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Brian?
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Brian.
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David had a terrible night.
He was screaming and screaming.
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- You should have woken me.
- I couldn't sleep.
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I couldn't...
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Why don't you go back to the doctor?
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They stole my life!
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Our life.
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Come on, love, you need to sleep.
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No, that doesn't stop the headaches.
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I'll get David breakfast
and take him to the park before school.
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- I've let you both down, Lizzy.
- Oh, no.
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- I have.
- No, come on.
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It's not your fault, what they gave you.
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We can still fight this, Brian.
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Maybe it's time to give up.
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Mum! Dad!
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- I'll go.
- No, it's OK.
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Mum!
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Dad!
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All right, come on. Watch your steps.
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Right. That's it.
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One, two. Good boy.
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Watch the road now.
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OK?
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We're going to go
somewhere nice, David.
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Somewhere very nice. All right?
Here you are.
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"For if the darkness
and corruption
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"leave a vestige
of the thoughts that once I had,
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"better by far
you should forget and smile
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"than that you should remember
and be sad."
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Thank you for coming, Stella.
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Well, you know where I am.
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I should have got up
with him that morning.
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Brian couldn't take it any more.
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Neither of us could.
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Not even David.
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Taking away our legal aid like they did
was the last straw.
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We might still be able to get
the drugs company into court.
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Now, I don't want to give you
any false hopes, but I won't give up.
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I won't drop this. I can't.
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Mr Justice Niven has ruled
that the decision to withdraw funding
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was reasonable.
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He's like a mouthpiece for the Government
and the drug companies.
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This soldier -
this acutely depressed soldier -
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killing himself and his child
must mean something.
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Legal aid had encouraged them
with funding,
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and the other soldiers
damaged by the vaccinations.
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Then, inches away from court,
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it was withdrawn
on instructions from the Government.
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Evidence of that?
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They know these drugs cause
neurological problems.
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There's a yawning gap between
what we know and can be proven.
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John! How many more people's lives
must be ruined
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while these drug companies
make bigger and bigger profits?
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And the worst of it is that
the Army mocks and reviles
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Brian Meam and the others,
telling them they're mad and mistaken.
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Why didn't he go after the Army?
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The Army argued successfully
that the drugs weren't damaging,
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and if they were, they wouldn't
have had the means to tell, anyway.
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All Brian Meam wanted
was for someone to acknowledge
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that the cocktail of vaccinations
forced on him
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might just have caused his problems.
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And if they didn't?
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He was formally fit and healthy,
like the other soldiers were.
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His medical records clearly state that.
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What do you want me to do, Jo?
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I'm hard against the wall.
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There must be some way round this.
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The issue of legal aid being withdrawn
needs to be re-examined.
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Well, I don't see how.
Mr Justice Niven has ruled.
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John, can't you see
the injustice staring you in the face?
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Mr Justice Niven is totally biased.
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His whole family are research doctors.
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His son lives in the same village as a
lawyer from the Funding Review Committee.
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They play tennis together!
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Mr Justice Niven
is a High Court judge of long standing.
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Now, can you really
substantiate these allegations?
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At one time, you would have
stormed the citadel.
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Oh, don't start.
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Broken down the barricades.
All you needed was a whiff of injustice.
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I am sorry to have bothered you.
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- Coop!
- Oh, I wasn't expecting you back.
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See if Mr Justice Niven is still
in the building, please. I'd like a word.
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- Here, Judge, or in his room?
- Just find him.
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The decision
of the Funding Review Committee
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to withdraw the legal aid certificate
was perfectly fair, John.
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How could the Government
or anyone else have manipulated things?
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Weren't these soldiers
perfectly normal before the vaccinations?
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According to his medical record,
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there was nothing to connect
is condition causally to them.
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Counsel for the claimant suggested that
scientific evidence would soon be found -
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seems a bizarre basis
for continuing funding.
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These cases bumped along for five years,
Michael, fully funded.
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And then moments before the doors
of the High Court, funding is withdrawn.
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The tests for legal aid
are far more stringent now.
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Part 15.3 of the Funding Code says
that a certificate can be withdrawn
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when it is unreasonable
for funding to continue.
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Without causal connection,
it was unreasonable for them to continue.
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15.3 also deals with the wider public
interest. Surely there was one here.
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In my view, it was addressed.
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- How did this come your way?
- I have some medical knowledge.
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Oh.
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I read medicine at Jesus
before I did law.
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Someone had to separate
law from emotion.
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There was an awful lot of emotion
surrounding these cases.
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How could there not be?
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This was just one of a number
of soldiers who committed suicide.
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It was the absence of evidence
that led me to my conclusion.
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We mustn't unreasonably damage
pharmaceutical companies
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on the basis of hysteria.
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They can't function with the prospect
of lawsuits hanging over them.
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Mistakes must sometimes be viewed
tolerantly by the courts.
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In a single case, perhaps,
but surely not on this scale?
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Nothing suggests a widespread problem.
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Pharmaceutical companies are in the front
line in the fight against bio-terrorism.
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They were helping to protect
these soldiers and everyone else.
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We mustn't impede them
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with unjustifiable actions.
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Is Mrs Mills still tied up
with that rag-bag of radicals?
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Yes.
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But that doesn't preclude the possibility
of her clients being treated unfairly.
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By Michael Niven? I doubt it.
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Oh, there is a serious risk of bias.
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His medical connections are well known.
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Doesn't his son play tennis
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with one of the lawyers
on the Funding Review Committee?
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No, no, no. That doesn't follow.
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You must accept what you are, John.
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A member of a very exclusive club.
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It can't be that bad.
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Well, I'm not suicidal. Not yet, anyway.
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Everything is improved
with another glass of wine.
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- Cheers.
- Thank you.
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We used to play this as kids.
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I know another game.
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I have a room here, Judge.
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How did you know I was a judge?
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You told me.
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Come on.
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- You're very naughty.
- I haven't done anything yet.
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Yet.
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Here I am.
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Am I very drunk, Judy?
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- You're not drunk at all.
- Why is everybody staring?
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No-one is staring at you, Judge.
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Yes, I am. I am far too drunk
to be of any use to either of us.
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Thanks for the offer.
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John! Come back.
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- What happened?
- He said he was too drunk.
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OK.
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We'll catch him another time.
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Who is it?
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- Jo, it's John.
- John who?
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How many Johns do you know?
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What do you want, John?
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To talk...
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about Michael Niven's ruling.
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- Colby.
- Deed's shown up at Mrs Mills'.
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To talk about the case?
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It started that way.
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It's more about sex now. Listen.
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- John. We shouldn't...
- Shouldn't what?
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OK. So what happened? Hmm.
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All right, Tom. Now, listen. I want a full
transcript of everything said. Yeah?
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All right. Speak to you later. Bye.
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Deed is with the lawyer.
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It appears amorous,
but they are talking about the case.
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- Well, that won't benefit us, will it?
- It might, sir.
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We should go full surveillance on Deed.
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I can't procure a fully authorised tap
on a High Court judge, Major.
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That won't be necessary.
We can handle it ourselves.
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There is a lot at stake, Percy.
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Shall we?
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You gave me a turn, Judge.
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I thought perhaps someone was here
who shouldn't have been.
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- Like who?
- Oh, I don't know.
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There are weird people
creeping about from the DCA.
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There was one here this morning
who was doing an audit on equipment.
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Spying on us, more likely.
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I wondered why the door was locked.
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Did you look at
the internet plagiarism papers?
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80,000 pages?!
o, I told them I didn't want it.
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I haven't got two years to spare.
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The court manager hoped
I'd persuade you. There's no-one else.
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No. I'm not surprised. Come on!
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You looking for something?
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Yeah. Information on that soldier
who killed himself and his child.
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The papers said he was depressed.
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Yes.
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It looks like the family
went through hell.
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Judge?
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See if you can find out ow
the legal aid funding review
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went to Mr Justice Niven,
will you, please?
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- OK.
- And where Mrs Mills is this morning.
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Have you explored every avenue
on this denial of legal aid?
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John, I know you don't like
the company I keep,
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but they are competent and concerned
forjustice for the soldiers.
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Have they found you a way
round Mr Justice Niven?
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Of course not. He was far too clever.
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He's savaged the case
and threatened them with costs
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if they pressed for a full hearing
in the Divisional Court.
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Is there any new evidence?
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All routes to the full court go
through Mr Justice Niven, Sir John.
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We can't revisit the decision
to withdraw funding.
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Unless the conduct
of the litigation was invalid.
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Are you saying it was?
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You have considered possible bias
in view of his medical connections?
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You know we have.
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Yeah. We were told it helped
is understanding of the case.
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And what about is son's relationship
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with one of the lawyers
on the funding committee?
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That just takes the argument
back to Niven.
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Try and establish possible bias
with the proceedings before him.
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Then make an application before me
in the Divisional Court,
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if you can find anotherjudge.
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Well, where are we supposed
to find one, at Woolworths?
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No. We'll get through this somehow.
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You're welcome.
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Jo!
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He's just made us
the sort of offer we can't refuse.
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There's too many complications.
Believe me, it's not worth it.
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If it gets us another day in court,
who cares how we get it?
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If I told you we had sex last night?
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Well, you're both consenting.
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Think about all those damaged soldiers.
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What about Lizzy Meam?
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She's lost her husband and her son
as a result of those vaccinations.
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And if we won and anyone
found out about me and Deed?
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Not only would we be appealed,
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we would have hefty costs against us,
and so would the soldiers.
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First, we'd have to get to court.
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Then get our funding.
Then someone would have to find out.
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Just talk to Lizzy Meam.
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Can Deed review the previous judge's
decision in this case?
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I can't see how.
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The case has been decided.
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We spent a lot of money
on intelligence, Neil, as you know.
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Then you'll know the one thing
Deed always does in his meddling
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is operate within the rules.
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The head of the DCA informs Percy Thrower
that Deed cannot reopen
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that which another High Court
judge as closed. It's unconstitutional.
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Were we to let it happen, we'd have judges
reopening anything they chose.
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And if he tries to look at
the procedure, not the merits?
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These vaccines are so very important
for our protection, Neil.
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The Government promised to ring-fence
the pharmaceutical industry
247
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and protect us
against compensation claims.
248
00:19:16,858 --> 00:19:20,697
We can't go on developing drugs
against bio-terrorism agents
249
00:19:20,698 --> 00:19:25,214
when our coffers are being sucked dry
by obsessive claimants.
250
00:19:25,258 --> 00:19:29,937
A development fund of 4 billion
is not likely to see the pot running dry.
251
00:19:29,938 --> 00:19:32,372
We'll deliver what we promised.
252
00:19:32,418 --> 00:19:35,457
Our Civil Contingencies Amendment Bill
will protect you
253
00:19:35,458 --> 00:19:38,097
and other major pharmaceuticals
from ever being sued.
254
00:19:38,098 --> 00:19:39,292
Good.
255
00:19:39,338 --> 00:19:42,805
It'll be law before Deed
gets off the starting block.
256
00:19:46,618 --> 00:19:49,291
I feel very bitter, Mrs Mills.
257
00:19:49,338 --> 00:19:52,887
That first lot of solicitors
we had were wicked.
258
00:19:52,938 --> 00:19:56,657
They got an expert witness
from the drug company's website!
259
00:19:56,658 --> 00:20:01,925
We didn't know any better, but they must
ave known he'd help them more than us.
260
00:20:03,858 --> 00:20:07,857
If they'd have let us get to court,
Brian and David would still be alive.
261
00:20:07,858 --> 00:20:11,258
We'd have enough money
to get proper help for Brian.
262
00:20:12,218 --> 00:20:15,737
Why do the drugs company threaten
everyone with costs like that?
263
00:20:15,738 --> 00:20:17,537
Don't they have enough money?
264
00:20:17,538 --> 00:20:20,617
Survival, profits,
that's all that matters to them.
265
00:20:20,618 --> 00:20:23,849
You somehow wish
it would happen to some of them.
266
00:20:23,898 --> 00:20:27,288
They used Brian
and all the others as guinea pigs.
267
00:20:31,458 --> 00:20:35,525
There is a chance that they could
go after us again for costs,
268
00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:37,377
if we got to court and lost.
269
00:20:37,378 --> 00:20:39,334
I don't see any point now.
270
00:20:42,538 --> 00:20:44,938
It won't bring Brian and David back.
271
00:20:50,298 --> 00:20:53,449
Maybe they've found some peace at last.
272
00:20:53,498 --> 00:20:55,632
I feel I've let you down, Lizzy.
273
00:20:59,418 --> 00:21:00,897
It's weird.
274
00:21:03,378 --> 00:21:05,175
I miss Brian's screaming.
275
00:21:07,898 --> 00:21:10,699
I'd put up with anything
to have him back.
276
00:21:13,698 --> 00:21:15,417
It would start without warning
277
00:21:15,418 --> 00:21:18,952
and end up with him
banging his head against the wall.
278
00:21:20,858 --> 00:21:23,858
What made it worse
was not being able to help.
279
00:21:28,258 --> 00:21:35,175
I lie in bed and listen for sounds of him
roaming around the house unable to sleep,
280
00:21:35,218 --> 00:21:37,015
praying...
281
00:21:37,058 --> 00:21:39,811
that he and David aren't really...
282
00:21:48,858 --> 00:21:53,295
Would they get the house if we lost,
or what's not on the mortgage?
283
00:21:53,338 --> 00:21:54,817
They might try.
284
00:21:56,738 --> 00:21:58,933
Let them take it.
285
00:21:58,978 --> 00:22:01,657
I don't think I want to be here any more.
286
00:22:01,658 --> 00:22:03,977
I wouldn't want it costing you and Peter.
287
00:22:03,978 --> 00:22:06,897
I'm not sure I can pay you
ow there's no legal aid.
288
00:22:06,898 --> 00:22:08,817
Peter's agreed to do it pro bono.
289
00:22:08,818 --> 00:22:10,618
I can manage without a fee.
290
00:22:10,658 --> 00:22:15,527
Lizzy, we could shove it right back
at that pharmaceutical company,
291
00:22:15,578 --> 00:22:19,045
warn them how we might
come after them for big costs.
292
00:22:20,338 --> 00:22:22,374
If we do get this started,
293
00:22:22,418 --> 00:22:26,952
you know what'll happen if they discover
that we've recently had sex.
294
00:22:27,578 --> 00:22:29,245
Is that all it was?
295
00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:34,737
You could get
one of the other advocates to lead.
296
00:22:34,738 --> 00:22:38,731
- You know I can't.
- You risk being disbarred.
297
00:22:38,778 --> 00:22:40,657
In the face of such injustice,
I don't see why I'd care.
298
00:22:40,658 --> 00:22:43,897
As much as I know a lot of people
would like to get rid of me,
299
00:22:43,898 --> 00:22:45,456
I can't be disbarred.
300
00:22:47,618 --> 00:22:50,657
John, please try to get
some otherjudges to take the application.
301
00:22:50,658 --> 00:22:52,694
Who would you suggest?
302
00:22:52,738 --> 00:22:54,091
Mimi!
303
00:23:08,978 --> 00:23:12,493
The clerk in the list office
was very shirty
304
00:23:12,538 --> 00:23:15,097
about me getting
the funding review papers.
305
00:23:15,098 --> 00:23:16,937
- Did he give a reason?
- No.
306
00:23:16,938 --> 00:23:18,894
Just a load of old flannel.
307
00:23:18,938 --> 00:23:21,537
Did you find out how it went
to Michael Niven?
308
00:23:21,538 --> 00:23:23,257
Someone bypassed the list office.
309
00:23:23,258 --> 00:23:25,857
That's what put the clerk's nose
out of joint.
310
00:23:25,858 --> 00:23:27,894
Did Sir Michael ask for it?
311
00:23:27,938 --> 00:23:30,817
He was chosen
because of his medical background.
312
00:23:30,818 --> 00:23:33,537
Both his sons and his daughter
are doctors.
313
00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:35,777
And he went to college at the same time
314
00:23:35,778 --> 00:23:38,736
as Sir Ian Rochester
and Sir Percy Thrower.
315
00:23:38,778 --> 00:23:41,975
Interesting. But circumstantial.
316
00:23:42,018 --> 00:23:44,657
He certainly gave the Government
the response they wanted.
317
00:23:44,658 --> 00:23:45,693
Did he?
318
00:23:45,738 --> 00:23:49,257
Well, they're in partnership
with the drugs companies nowadays.
319
00:23:49,258 --> 00:23:53,257
Well, let's see when I approach
Ian Rochester about the case.
320
00:23:53,258 --> 00:23:54,850
That'll be fun.
321
00:23:57,818 --> 00:24:01,657
Surely it's not acceptable
to examine a brotherjudge in this way
322
00:24:01,658 --> 00:24:03,617
now the Court of Appeal's ruled?
323
00:24:03,618 --> 00:24:04,937
Not on this, it hasn't.
324
00:24:04,938 --> 00:24:07,937
Presumably it thought
the original decision was correct.
325
00:24:07,938 --> 00:24:12,257
Bias on the part of Michael Niven,
if there was any, would invalidate that.
326
00:24:12,258 --> 00:24:16,729
I don't control the list.
I can't jump a case listed for you
327
00:24:16,778 --> 00:24:18,577
in the Divisional Court
to the front of the queue.
328
00:24:18,578 --> 00:24:23,245
If a court is free, and if I can find
a judge, we can start right away.
329
00:24:26,018 --> 00:24:27,577
Aren't you supposed to be at the Hague?
330
00:24:27,578 --> 00:24:31,778
There isn't any work for me
in the International Criminal Court.
331
00:24:31,818 --> 00:24:35,174
The world's awash
with international criminals.
332
00:24:37,938 --> 00:24:41,374
Why did the original review
go to Michael Niven?
333
00:24:41,418 --> 00:24:43,857
The next most suitable judge, presumably.
334
00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:46,895
You were at Cambridge together,
weren't you?
335
00:24:46,938 --> 00:24:50,272
He was ahead of me.
I'm not sure we ever met there.
336
00:24:51,178 --> 00:24:53,931
I do need a court, Ian.
337
00:24:53,978 --> 00:24:57,617
If Mrs Cooper calls Court Services,
I'm sure they'll find you one,
338
00:24:57,618 --> 00:25:00,857
but you may be heading
into dangerous waters with this.
339
00:25:00,858 --> 00:25:02,337
Ah.
340
00:25:19,738 --> 00:25:22,491
Mr Justice Niven, Judge.
341
00:25:22,538 --> 00:25:24,051
Michael.
342
00:25:24,098 --> 00:25:30,731
My clerk informs me you've asked for all
the papers in the drugs funding review.
343
00:25:30,778 --> 00:25:35,135
- I don't think we got them.
- Why do you want them?
344
00:25:35,178 --> 00:25:38,488
I've been asked to sit
in the Divisional Court.
345
00:25:38,538 --> 00:25:40,257
We're looking at your ruling
346
00:25:40,258 --> 00:25:43,977
upholding the decision
to withdraw funding from Brian Meam,
347
00:25:43,978 --> 00:25:45,696
the soldier.
348
00:25:45,738 --> 00:25:48,252
Who made this application?
349
00:25:48,298 --> 00:25:50,257
The representatives
are Radical Lawyers for Justice.
350
00:25:50,258 --> 00:25:52,818
Ah.
351
00:25:52,858 --> 00:25:55,930
The decision to withdraw was appropriate.
352
00:25:55,978 --> 00:25:57,969
There is no causal link.
353
00:25:58,018 --> 00:26:02,216
A lot of state funding
was already spent looking for a link.
354
00:26:02,258 --> 00:26:07,097
A hitherto healthy soldier was given
a cocktail of drugs for his protection
355
00:26:07,098 --> 00:26:09,373
and suffered neurological damage.
356
00:26:09,418 --> 00:26:12,417
There was a history
of ill health in his family.
357
00:26:12,418 --> 00:26:15,967
Nothing took me to the drugs as cause.
358
00:26:16,018 --> 00:26:19,897
Radical Lawyers claim
your decision is unsustainable, Michael,
359
00:26:19,898 --> 00:26:22,817
on account of your background
association with medics.
360
00:26:22,818 --> 00:26:24,410
My background...?!
361
00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:27,768
I saw no reasonable cause.
362
00:26:27,818 --> 00:26:31,457
One of your sons plays tennis
with a lawyer who sat on the committee.
363
00:26:31,458 --> 00:26:34,697
- How could that affect my judgement?!
- That's what we'll look at.
364
00:26:34,698 --> 00:26:39,032
This is not the sort of behaviour
one expects from a brotherjudge.
365
00:26:39,818 --> 00:26:41,809
We won't wear it, John.
366
00:26:45,498 --> 00:26:48,617
Why would Ian Rochester lie about
being at Jesus with Michael Niven?
367
00:26:48,618 --> 00:26:51,291
The information's so easily checked.
368
00:26:51,338 --> 00:26:53,454
They were there in '74.
369
00:26:53,498 --> 00:26:56,615
They even rowed together briefly.
370
00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:59,497
Could he be drawing you
into this for some purpose?
371
00:26:59,498 --> 00:27:01,897
- Are you getting paranoid?
- With just cause.
372
00:27:01,898 --> 00:27:05,057
Considering what's at stake for government
and pharmaceutical companies.
373
00:27:05,058 --> 00:27:06,491
Evidence?
374
00:27:06,538 --> 00:27:08,813
Intuition. Not very reliable.
375
00:27:08,858 --> 00:27:11,247
Neither is evidence sometimes.
376
00:27:11,298 --> 00:27:15,814
I've got a feeling Sir Percy Thrower
might provide a key.
377
00:27:15,858 --> 00:27:20,454
Because they were at Cambridge together?
378
00:27:20,498 --> 00:27:24,857
We keep coming back to the Home Office
and its concern with bio-terrorism, right?
379
00:27:24,858 --> 00:27:28,017
The pharmaceuticals are making
vaccines against possible attacks.
380
00:27:28,018 --> 00:27:33,490
The Army is providing them
with guinea pigs. John, it's so unjust!
381
00:27:33,538 --> 00:27:37,577
They did that with soldiers in the '50s,
testing the effects of nuclear weapons.
382
00:27:37,578 --> 00:27:39,091
One fight at a time.
383
00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:45,372
I'd concentrate on
Michael Niven's possible bias.
384
00:27:46,938 --> 00:27:48,530
Do you want to eat?
385
00:27:48,578 --> 00:27:50,933
Not in the circumstances.
386
00:27:50,978 --> 00:27:53,897
Circumstantially,
eating's no different from having a drink.
387
00:27:53,898 --> 00:27:56,765
- It's what happens afterwards.
- Excuse me.
388
00:27:59,698 --> 00:28:01,768
- How are you?
- Have we met?
389
00:28:01,818 --> 00:28:03,774
Ian Rochester's party.
390
00:28:03,818 --> 00:28:05,331
Wrong party. Sorry.
391
00:28:13,578 --> 00:28:16,817
You really don't let the grass
grow under your feet, do you?
392
00:28:16,818 --> 00:28:18,376
No.
393
00:28:22,218 --> 00:28:24,049
What's all this?
394
00:28:24,098 --> 00:28:28,011
Papers from the Judicial Review
Mr Justice Niven conducted.
395
00:28:28,058 --> 00:28:30,897
I'm looking at why the soldier's funding
was withdrawn,
396
00:28:30,898 --> 00:28:33,017
not writing a history of legal aid.
397
00:28:33,018 --> 00:28:34,857
This is just a quarter of it!
398
00:28:34,858 --> 00:28:37,937
That's one way of slowing us up.
Where's my policeman?
399
00:28:37,938 --> 00:28:42,539
- You banished him to the library.
- I've got something for him to do.
400
00:28:43,138 --> 00:28:44,297
Have you taken up smoking?
401
00:28:44,298 --> 00:28:46,097
I want him to check that
for fingerprints.
402
00:28:46,098 --> 00:28:47,857
I think the owner might be following me.
403
00:28:47,858 --> 00:28:49,735
- Why?
- Don't tell Stephen.
404
00:28:49,778 --> 00:28:53,257
- He'll smother me with protection.
- But if they're following you?
405
00:28:53,258 --> 00:28:56,257
Well, if we find out who,
we might find out why.
406
00:28:56,258 --> 00:28:59,011
Tell him it's urgent. Oh, Coop.
407
00:28:59,058 --> 00:29:02,130
No more papers.
I'll ask questions instead.
408
00:29:02,178 --> 00:29:03,657
Yes.
409
00:29:05,338 --> 00:29:07,568
Is Deed getting this case on?
410
00:29:07,618 --> 00:29:11,167
I wish I could say he wasn't, Percy.
411
00:29:11,218 --> 00:29:14,255
Caversham are feeling persecuted by him.
412
00:29:14,298 --> 00:29:18,977
He's looking into the possibility of
apparent bias on Mr Justice Niven's part.
413
00:29:18,978 --> 00:29:20,172
A clever move.
414
00:29:20,218 --> 00:29:25,685
It means he isn't seen to be trespassing
on the substance of the litigation itself.
415
00:29:28,978 --> 00:29:33,688
If the soldier's widow
gets funding reinstated,
416
00:29:33,738 --> 00:29:38,607
she'd pursue the pharmaceutical
companies through the courts.
417
00:29:38,658 --> 00:29:40,857
Some of our best lawyers are looking into
418
00:29:40,858 --> 00:29:43,657
why Deed shouldn't re-examine
the Niven ruling.
419
00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:46,616
And if he does, Ian?
420
00:29:46,658 --> 00:29:48,897
Does it matter if this soldier's widow
gets to court?
421
00:29:48,898 --> 00:29:50,417
Perhaps we owe her the truth.
422
00:29:50,418 --> 00:29:53,897
- The fallout could be huge.
- Caversham might up and quit Britain.
423
00:29:53,898 --> 00:29:55,217
It's more than lost jobs.
424
00:29:55,218 --> 00:29:58,577
They are the vanguard in the PM's
fight against bio-terrorism.
425
00:29:58,578 --> 00:30:02,577
We could speed up the Civil Contingencies
Amendment Bill, Home Secretary.
426
00:30:02,578 --> 00:30:03,937
Give them the protection they need.
427
00:30:03,938 --> 00:30:07,055
Too much haste
and we might be spotted.
428
00:30:09,898 --> 00:30:14,176
Efforts are being made
to hinder Deed, Home Secretary.
429
00:30:14,218 --> 00:30:16,697
For once, Percy,
I'd like to stop him legally.
430
00:30:16,698 --> 00:30:19,632
That would really take him down
a peg or two.
431
00:30:21,578 --> 00:30:24,092
Judge...
432
00:30:25,498 --> 00:30:30,333
...the court manager says
there's no court available.
433
00:30:30,378 --> 00:30:33,848
I do know that 5 and 27 are free.
434
00:30:33,898 --> 00:30:36,537
- OK, grab one of those.
- When are you sitting?
435
00:30:36,538 --> 00:30:38,377
As soon as I can find anotherjudge.
436
00:30:38,378 --> 00:30:40,245
I'll warn the other parties.
437
00:30:43,378 --> 00:30:45,097
Is the judge in, Mrs Cooper?
438
00:30:45,098 --> 00:30:48,937
Ah, come in, Stephen. Did you get
a result on those fingerprints?
439
00:30:48,938 --> 00:30:52,097
Well, I did get a response.
I can't have the information.
440
00:30:52,098 --> 00:30:54,297
- What's that mean?
- I don't have enough authority.
441
00:30:54,298 --> 00:30:56,217
Are there fingerprints on record?
442
00:30:56,218 --> 00:30:58,097
There are, but I can't find out whose.
443
00:30:58,098 --> 00:31:01,217
They could belong
to a special informant, Judge,
444
00:31:01,218 --> 00:31:03,137
or a member of the security services.
445
00:31:03,138 --> 00:31:04,207
Ah.
446
00:31:04,258 --> 00:31:07,534
Who would have the authority to tell me?
447
00:31:07,578 --> 00:31:08,912
I don't know, Judge.
448
00:31:08,938 --> 00:31:11,611
Perhaps my boss, Superintendent Gaghan.
449
00:31:11,658 --> 00:31:13,091
OK. Bring him here.
450
00:31:13,138 --> 00:31:15,174
Her. She's a her.
451
00:31:22,178 --> 00:31:23,657
The court, Coop.
452
00:31:29,938 --> 00:31:32,897
We wouldn't presume to withhold
information from you.
453
00:31:32,898 --> 00:31:34,937
Whose prints were on the cigarettes?
454
00:31:34,938 --> 00:31:37,817
The unidentified prints,
we assumed were yours.
455
00:31:37,818 --> 00:31:39,137
The smudged prints, we couldn't identify.
456
00:31:39,138 --> 00:31:40,897
Then whose record
was denied to PC Ashurst?
457
00:31:40,898 --> 00:31:43,257
They didn't relate to those
on the cigarette packet, sir.
458
00:31:43,258 --> 00:31:45,817
How do you know
if you didn't identify them?
459
00:31:45,818 --> 00:31:47,774
It was a mistake, Sir John.
460
00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:51,817
Do you know what the penalties are
for lying to a High Court judge?
461
00:31:51,818 --> 00:31:54,252
No-one's lying to you, sir.
462
00:31:54,298 --> 00:31:56,497
I asked if you knew
what the penalties were.
463
00:31:56,498 --> 00:31:57,498
Yes, sir.
464
00:31:57,538 --> 00:32:01,217
If I find out that I'm being deceived,
that person will go to prison.
465
00:32:01,218 --> 00:32:04,537
And I don't care if it's
the Commissioner of Police himself.
466
00:32:04,538 --> 00:32:06,737
- Do I make myself clear?
- Yes, Sir John.
467
00:32:06,738 --> 00:32:11,209
Yes. Good. Well, I want that cigarette
packet returned to my office.
468
00:32:21,098 --> 00:32:23,432
He wants the cigarette packet back.
469
00:32:57,658 --> 00:32:59,888
You didn't go up in the world.
470
00:32:59,938 --> 00:33:02,498
The quality of my client has gone up.
471
00:33:04,178 --> 00:33:05,452
How so?
472
00:33:05,498 --> 00:33:08,965
All a lot more deserving
than rapists and embezzlers.
473
00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,777
You gave up the chance
of being a judge for this?
474
00:33:13,778 --> 00:33:16,292
- Yeah, I've no regrets.
- Good.
475
00:33:17,858 --> 00:33:19,857
We're planning on moving out of here.
476
00:33:19,858 --> 00:33:21,814
Where to? A sub-basement?
477
00:33:21,858 --> 00:33:24,417
We're going to make our chambers virtual.
478
00:33:24,418 --> 00:33:26,817
That way we can spend
more money on the client.
479
00:33:26,818 --> 00:33:28,417
Where are you going to meet them,
in the public library?
480
00:33:28,418 --> 00:33:31,330
Most of my clients tend to be in custody.
481
00:33:31,378 --> 00:33:32,417
Lizzy Meam isn't.
482
00:33:32,418 --> 00:33:36,217
If you win that one, you'll have legions
beating a path to your door.
483
00:33:36,218 --> 00:33:37,857
No point being virtual then.
484
00:33:37,858 --> 00:33:39,897
Yeah. Let's get to the court first.
485
00:33:39,898 --> 00:33:44,737
Have you got a very good expert witness?
Because you're going to need one.
486
00:33:44,738 --> 00:33:46,456
Dr Peter Hiaasen.
487
00:33:46,498 --> 00:33:48,977
He's a leading gastroenterologist
in Miami.
488
00:33:48,978 --> 00:33:52,017
I thought these soldiers'problems
were neurological.
489
00:33:52,018 --> 00:33:54,657
His thesis is
that the problems start in the stomach.
490
00:33:54,658 --> 00:33:59,778
- Can you afford to bring him over?
- He's here already doing research.
491
00:33:59,818 --> 00:34:03,128
Is there a possibility
that you might be followed?
492
00:34:03,178 --> 00:34:06,568
- What, stalked?
- I'm serious.
493
00:34:06,618 --> 00:34:08,097
Why, what's happened?
494
00:34:10,418 --> 00:34:13,977
I want to move quickly.
Can you put your people on notice?
495
00:34:13,978 --> 00:34:15,778
Coop's already notified us.
496
00:34:17,978 --> 00:34:20,497
John,
we really do ave to keep our distance.
497
00:34:20,498 --> 00:34:22,329
It's a bit late for that!
498
00:34:22,378 --> 00:34:25,112
Yeah. I'm on my way
to meet Charlie.
499
00:34:28,418 --> 00:34:29,851
I miss Jo.
500
00:34:29,898 --> 00:34:32,537
Everything in chambers
seems somehow different now.
501
00:34:32,538 --> 00:34:34,017
How?
502
00:34:34,058 --> 00:34:36,937
I don't know.
Everything's about the bottom line.
503
00:34:36,938 --> 00:34:40,097
- You're not going to join her?
- I don't have any work.
504
00:34:40,098 --> 00:34:41,937
Why? You're a good advocate.
505
00:34:41,938 --> 00:34:44,057
There are a lot of good advocates, Dad.
506
00:34:44,058 --> 00:34:45,777
In case you hadn't noticed,
507
00:34:45,778 --> 00:34:49,217
the Legal Services Commission
are cutting back on criminal defence.
508
00:34:49,218 --> 00:34:52,257
The Government doesn't value
an independent bar.
509
00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:56,809
They want a public defender system
run along the lines of the CPS.
510
00:34:56,858 --> 00:34:58,576
I might have to sign up.
511
00:35:00,138 --> 00:35:02,377
Are you going to do this work for me?
512
00:35:02,378 --> 00:35:05,857
A medical researcher
would do the job faster and better.
513
00:35:05,858 --> 00:35:08,977
Your legal mind will appreciate
what's admissible.
514
00:35:08,978 --> 00:35:12,175
- How urgent is it?
- All I need is a court.
515
00:35:12,218 --> 00:35:14,417
Well, you'd better feed me first.
516
00:35:14,418 --> 00:35:16,737
Why else would I come all this way?
517
00:35:16,738 --> 00:35:18,217
I'm hungry.
518
00:35:26,978 --> 00:35:30,288
Hmm, hmm, yep, yep.
519
00:35:30,338 --> 00:35:32,806
Yes, you can leave that with me.
520
00:35:32,858 --> 00:35:35,213
Thank you. Bye.
521
00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,497
You were a lot more polite
in Sussex, Mr Harrison.
522
00:35:38,498 --> 00:35:40,165
I do apologise, Sir John.
523
00:35:40,178 --> 00:35:41,817
This court can't be used, sir.
524
00:35:41,818 --> 00:35:44,577
- Where was the asbestos found?
- In the roof, Sir John.
525
00:35:44,578 --> 00:35:46,011
When was it found?
526
00:35:46,058 --> 00:35:48,057
Quite recently.
When a leak was being repaired.
527
00:35:48,058 --> 00:35:50,017
It's been there for God knows how long.
528
00:35:50,018 --> 00:35:51,857
Another day won't make any difference.
529
00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:55,017
I'm afraid health and safety
won't permit that, Sir John.
530
00:35:55,018 --> 00:35:56,737
We'll use Court Number Five, Coop.
531
00:35:56,738 --> 00:35:58,657
- Yes, Judge.
- Not free, Sir John.
532
00:35:58,658 --> 00:36:01,570
Mr Justice Niven
is hearing an appeal there.
533
00:36:01,618 --> 00:36:04,218
- Since when?
- It started this morning.
534
00:36:05,578 --> 00:36:07,694
Find me another court.
535
00:36:11,738 --> 00:36:15,731
Is this what you did for promotion, Brian?
What's going on?
536
00:36:15,778 --> 00:36:17,848
Nothing, Rita.
537
00:36:17,898 --> 00:36:23,018
Rita, could you get him
to hear the internet copyright case?
538
00:36:26,058 --> 00:36:30,057
Judge, there is a court free
for the internet copyright case.
539
00:36:30,058 --> 00:36:31,817
Now, you could take that case...
540
00:36:31,818 --> 00:36:33,777
Two or more years of hell?
o, thank you.
541
00:36:33,778 --> 00:36:38,017
Yes, but you could open, order
an adjournment for a technical reason,
542
00:36:38,018 --> 00:36:40,691
and have the funding review on standby.
543
00:36:40,738 --> 00:36:43,257
And afterwards, I'd still have
the mind-numbing internet case.
544
00:36:43,258 --> 00:36:45,057
I'm sure you could get out of it, Judge.
545
00:36:45,058 --> 00:36:47,572
- Thanks, Coop.
- Thank Mr Harrison.
546
00:37:29,338 --> 00:37:31,249
Yes, Dr Mary Moon, please.
547
00:37:31,298 --> 00:37:33,337
Do you have an address?
548
00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:38,366
Try Chiddingley, East Sussex.
Sorry, I don't have a street.
549
00:37:38,418 --> 00:37:42,536
Sorry, the only one listed
is ex-directory.
550
00:37:42,578 --> 00:37:44,534
OK. Thanks.
551
00:37:49,538 --> 00:37:54,658
Charlie.
552
00:37:54,698 --> 00:37:56,734
Oh, Dad.
553
00:37:56,778 --> 00:38:00,457
Well, you could at least try and sound
a little less disappointed.
554
00:38:00,458 --> 00:38:02,417
I thought it was Tom Cruise
returning my call.
555
00:38:02,418 --> 00:38:03,851
Tom who?
556
00:38:03,898 --> 00:38:07,527
- Dad, he's a Hollywood movie star.
- Charlie!
557
00:38:07,578 --> 00:38:11,417
I'm on all these support sites
for soldiers damaged by vaccinations.
558
00:38:11,418 --> 00:38:12,897
It's really interesting stuff.
559
00:38:12,898 --> 00:38:15,935
Yeah. I read some of them. A bit loony.
560
00:38:15,978 --> 00:38:19,334
- Do you know who Dr Mary Moon is?
- Should I?
561
00:38:19,378 --> 00:38:22,337
She and Dr Rupert Dayvis
caused a big scandal last year
562
00:38:22,338 --> 00:38:26,097
when they went on record saying
the cocktail of drugs soldiers are given
563
00:38:26,098 --> 00:38:29,017
is causing all their mental
and emotional problems.
564
00:38:29,018 --> 00:38:33,577
Dr Dayvis killed himself by tying a rope
around a tree and then his neck
565
00:38:33,578 --> 00:38:35,177
and then driving away in his car.
566
00:38:35,178 --> 00:38:39,777
Oh, yes. Didn't she accuse the
pharmaceutical companies of killing him?
567
00:38:39,778 --> 00:38:42,297
Along with all the others
with vested interests.
568
00:38:42,298 --> 00:38:46,737
The internet sites insist that he was
killed because of what they discovered.
569
00:38:46,738 --> 00:38:49,697
- So why wasn't Dr Moon killed as well?
- Don't know.
570
00:38:49,698 --> 00:38:51,457
I'll ask her if I can locate her.
571
00:38:51,458 --> 00:38:54,217
Could I get her details
through the court people?
572
00:38:54,218 --> 00:38:57,137
Well, you could ask Coop to try,
but don't tell me about it.
573
00:38:57,138 --> 00:39:00,733
Charlie, be careful around this,
won't you?
574
00:39:00,778 --> 00:39:02,052
Dad?
575
00:39:02,098 --> 00:39:05,937
Well, there's a lot at stake for those
companies. The government as well.
576
00:39:05,938 --> 00:39:07,817
Isn't that being a bit paranoid?
577
00:39:07,818 --> 00:39:10,337
Is that why I can't find anotherjudge
to sit with me?
578
00:39:10,338 --> 00:39:12,249
Have you asked Grandad?
579
00:39:12,298 --> 00:39:14,417
I don't think that's very likely.
580
00:39:14,418 --> 00:39:18,177
Hey. In the words of the song,
"The man in the gabardine mac is a spy."
581
00:39:18,178 --> 00:39:20,977
I don't get paid to listen to that.
That is off!
582
00:39:20,978 --> 00:39:24,645
It's the man in the gabardine suit
that's the spy.
583
00:39:32,058 --> 00:39:37,690
Here we are. The summons office
got her details from the police.
584
00:39:37,738 --> 00:39:41,097
I'll remember that
when I'm trying to locate a witness.
585
00:39:41,098 --> 00:39:45,177
Charlie, if your dad ever gets
anotherjudge to hear this with him,
586
00:39:45,178 --> 00:39:47,312
you didn't get that from me, OK?
587
00:39:48,458 --> 00:39:52,657
With a bit more notice, my darling,
I would have offered you coffee.
588
00:39:52,658 --> 00:39:55,297
But you see, I'm sitting.
589
00:39:55,338 --> 00:39:58,171
Why can't you help Dad with this case?
590
00:39:58,218 --> 00:40:00,095
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
591
00:40:00,138 --> 00:40:06,407
I've known Michael Niven
for a very long time.
592
00:40:06,458 --> 00:40:09,052
He's a decent fellow.
593
00:40:09,098 --> 00:40:13,257
But what if he's an unsuitable judge
for reasons of apparent bias?
594
00:40:13,258 --> 00:40:16,614
Like in Taylor and Laurence, 2003?
595
00:40:19,258 --> 00:40:21,852
That's rather good, clever girl.
596
00:40:21,898 --> 00:40:23,456
Yes.
597
00:40:59,178 --> 00:41:00,978
Lizzy, is this a good idea?
598
00:41:16,618 --> 00:41:18,097
All rise.
599
00:41:30,738 --> 00:41:33,377
This threatens to be
a very long-running case.
600
00:41:33,378 --> 00:41:37,737
Mr McCartney is a litigant in person
and may not be familiar with procedure.
601
00:41:37,738 --> 00:41:40,657
I have done a lot of research
on the internet, my lord.
602
00:41:40,658 --> 00:41:43,125
Yes. I'm sure you have, Mr McCartney.
603
00:41:43,138 --> 00:41:49,407
There are 87,000 pages on the internet
relating to this case.
604
00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:51,528
Now, I've calculated...
605
00:41:51,578 --> 00:41:55,017
that if I read a page a minute
for eight hours a day, every day,
606
00:41:55,018 --> 00:41:57,486
I'd still need over half a year.
607
00:41:57,538 --> 00:41:59,130
That isn't to say
608
00:41:59,178 --> 00:42:04,411
that we won't deal diligently
with the realities of this case.
609
00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:09,134
Ideas that Mr McCartney posted
on the internet were purportedly
610
00:42:09,178 --> 00:42:14,298
exploited for commercial gain
by Internet Raiders Incorporated.
611
00:42:14,338 --> 00:42:16,408
So, two questions arise.
612
00:42:16,458 --> 00:42:22,135
Did Mr McCartney's ideas constitute
something that could be legally owned
613
00:42:22,178 --> 00:42:24,772
and with copyright vested in him?
614
00:42:24,818 --> 00:42:28,094
And, if so,
did Internet Raiders Incorporated
615
00:42:28,138 --> 00:42:32,370
wrongly appropriate those ideas
for commercial gain?
616
00:42:32,418 --> 00:42:38,050
- They did, sir.
- That's what we're here to discover.
617
00:42:38,098 --> 00:42:39,326
Mr Norwalk?
618
00:42:39,378 --> 00:42:44,247
Might I enquire about the application
we made under rule 34.13
619
00:42:44,298 --> 00:42:48,817
for the court to issue a letter of request
for an absent witness deposition?
620
00:42:48,818 --> 00:42:52,970
The request was made
to the Supreme Court in Buenos Aires.
621
00:42:53,018 --> 00:42:56,817
Our witness, Mr Kray, is critical
to the structure of our case.
622
00:42:56,818 --> 00:43:01,897
The court in Argentina has not managed to
track your intended deponent, Mr Norwalk.
623
00:43:01,898 --> 00:43:04,048
Ah.
624
00:43:04,098 --> 00:43:07,657
Mr McCartney, do you intend to make
an opening address to the court?
625
00:43:07,658 --> 00:43:10,491
I believe that's allowed, sir.
626
00:43:10,538 --> 00:43:13,848
Yes, it is. I would just
ask you to keep it short.
627
00:43:53,578 --> 00:43:55,534
Dr Moon?
628
00:43:55,578 --> 00:43:59,412
- Do I know you?
- No. Well, I'm doing some research.
629
00:43:59,458 --> 00:44:02,217
- Mr Justice Deed is hearing a case...
- I can't help you. I'm sorry.
630
00:44:02,218 --> 00:44:04,377
You and Dr Dayvis
discovered a connection
631
00:44:04,378 --> 00:44:07,417
between the drugs
and neurological damage to the soldiers.
632
00:44:07,418 --> 00:44:11,497
There is no proof the drugs damaged them.
You shouldn't be looking at this.
633
00:44:11,498 --> 00:44:13,614
That wasn't Dr Dayvis's view.
634
00:44:13,658 --> 00:44:16,658
- What is it you want?
- Access to his papers.
635
00:44:17,898 --> 00:44:19,809
I can't talk. Go away.
636
00:44:19,858 --> 00:44:22,737
Well, if you change your mind,
ere's my number.
637
00:44:22,738 --> 00:44:26,737
The judge's number is on the back.
He will take this to court.
638
00:44:26,738 --> 00:44:29,047
He is wasting his time.
639
00:44:29,098 --> 00:44:31,417
Are you saying
someone's threatened her?
640
00:44:31,418 --> 00:44:34,617
Their discovery did cause
a lot of fuss in medical circles.
641
00:44:34,618 --> 00:44:37,777
If they're right, the soldiers' cases
would be watertight.
642
00:44:37,778 --> 00:44:40,975
The internet sites claim
Dr Dayvis held the key.
643
00:44:41,018 --> 00:44:46,251
He and Dr Moon identified
the specific damage as neural deficit.
644
00:44:46,298 --> 00:44:51,418
Some sites scrupulously tracked
the rise in neural deficit
645
00:44:51,458 --> 00:44:55,297
and bowel disorders in soldiers
following their revelations.
646
00:44:55,298 --> 00:44:57,129
What is neural deficit?
647
00:44:57,178 --> 00:45:02,127
Well, it's the... It's the permanent
breaks in neural pathways.
648
00:45:02,178 --> 00:45:04,937
They carry information
to all parts of the body.
649
00:45:04,938 --> 00:45:08,737
Any interruption stops
proper functioning of all organisms.
650
00:45:08,738 --> 00:45:13,368
What's not known is why some parts
are affected and others not.
651
00:45:13,418 --> 00:45:17,855
Inflammation of spinal nerve cells
causes terrible pain.
652
00:45:17,898 --> 00:45:20,232
Sufferers scream, bang their heads.
653
00:45:20,258 --> 00:45:23,295
On their best days,
they're just depressed.
654
00:45:23,338 --> 00:45:26,697
Other vaccinated soldiers
ave killed themselves too, Dad.
655
00:45:26,698 --> 00:45:29,897
And is there a background
prevalence to these health problems?
656
00:45:29,898 --> 00:45:31,457
There's bound to be,
657
00:45:31,458 --> 00:45:34,537
but nothing's shown up prior to
the soldiers getting the vaccinations,
658
00:45:34,538 --> 00:45:37,848
which were arguably experimental.
Why is that?
659
00:45:37,898 --> 00:45:41,057
You're thinking like counsel
for the claimant, Charlie.
660
00:45:41,058 --> 00:45:44,977
Look, Dad, you don't need to show
that these drugs are causing the problem,
661
00:45:44,978 --> 00:45:47,657
just that there is
a significant possibility.
662
00:45:47,658 --> 00:45:52,217
Well, I'm supposed to be concerned with
the procedure in the Niven hearing.
663
00:45:52,218 --> 00:45:57,417
The merits and whether Dr Moon is too
scared to help should be for another day.
664
00:45:57,418 --> 00:46:01,934
Dad, the merits were strong
until Caversham got at all the experts.
665
00:46:01,978 --> 00:46:05,057
If you're looking for bias,
how bent is all this?
666
00:46:05,058 --> 00:46:09,131
And they would say
"irrational conspiracy theory".
667
00:46:09,178 --> 00:46:11,294
No, you keep looking, Charlie.
668
00:46:11,338 --> 00:46:14,774
The idea behind
the World Wide Web,
669
00:46:14,818 --> 00:46:18,697
perhaps the most consequential
known to mankind,
670
00:46:18,738 --> 00:46:22,208
was the instant dissemination
of information
671
00:46:22,258 --> 00:46:27,093
in order to help free people
of all colours and creeds,
672
00:46:27,138 --> 00:46:29,971
not the theft of ideas.
673
00:46:30,018 --> 00:46:32,293
Quite the opposite, in fact.
674
00:46:32,338 --> 00:46:36,047
Ideas are currency in this technology,
675
00:46:36,098 --> 00:46:40,774
and the fact that they can go
around the world and back in an instant
676
00:46:40,818 --> 00:46:43,491
makes them more liable to theft.
677
00:46:46,538 --> 00:46:47,732
Excuse me.
678
00:46:47,778 --> 00:46:55,207
Did Dr Alexander Graham Bell have the idea
for the phone first, or Marconi?
679
00:46:55,258 --> 00:47:00,651
It's unlikely that they both had
the same idea at exactly the same time.
680
00:47:00,698 --> 00:47:04,532
Things simply moved more slowly
in those days
681
00:47:04,578 --> 00:47:10,733
and it only looked like they had
the idea at the exact same time.
682
00:47:10,778 --> 00:47:15,137
Now, the expressed intention
of the inventor of the World Wide Web,
683
00:47:15,138 --> 00:47:20,610
Sir Tim Berners-Lee,
was to free up ideas and people.
684
00:47:20,658 --> 00:47:24,367
He applied for no royalties or patents.
685
00:47:24,418 --> 00:47:28,206
Let me take you back to 1969
in America...
686
00:47:28,258 --> 00:47:31,967
Mr McCartney, is it your intention
to set the record
687
00:47:32,018 --> 00:47:35,169
for the longest opening
in a civil action?
688
00:47:35,218 --> 00:47:38,369
The record so far is 119 days.
689
00:47:39,378 --> 00:47:43,817
I'm just trying to set out the facts
and context as clearly as I can.
690
00:47:43,818 --> 00:47:46,207
Yes, well, sometimes less is more.
691
00:47:46,258 --> 00:47:49,392
If we'd had a jury,
you'd have lost them by now.
692
00:47:49,698 --> 00:47:51,177
Do you want me to stop?
693
00:47:51,178 --> 00:47:54,488
Not if you think
I don't have the point.
694
00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:58,326
Now, what I'm going to do
is adjourn now.
695
00:47:58,378 --> 00:48:03,930
Think overnight about how much more
you want me to know.
696
00:48:03,978 --> 00:48:05,457
All rise.
697
00:48:18,818 --> 00:48:21,577
Coop tells me you've got
a problem with your client.
698
00:48:21,578 --> 00:48:23,897
- Yeah, she's cracking up.
- Is she ready to go?
699
00:48:23,898 --> 00:48:26,651
Well, if you've got anotherjudge.
700
00:48:26,698 --> 00:48:28,575
We'll get there.
701
00:48:28,618 --> 00:48:31,655
John, is this going to happen?
702
00:48:31,698 --> 00:48:35,257
Coop, warn the other parties
in the Funding Review to stand by.
703
00:48:35,258 --> 00:48:37,577
Will I tell the Internet Raiders
to stand down?
704
00:48:37,578 --> 00:48:40,978
If we do, we'll alert
the world and his uncle.
705
00:49:44,658 --> 00:49:47,297
Charlie ought to move
from this ghastly area.
706
00:49:47,298 --> 00:49:49,417
There's nothing wrong with the area,
George.
707
00:49:49,418 --> 00:49:51,215
Then why was she attacked?
708
00:49:56,618 --> 00:49:59,530
Oh, Charlie!
709
00:49:59,578 --> 00:50:01,489
What happened?
710
00:50:01,538 --> 00:50:02,857
Were you hurt, darling?
711
00:50:02,858 --> 00:50:06,697
I don't know what's more shocking,
this or seeing my parents together.
712
00:50:06,698 --> 00:50:08,777
It looks like an opportunistic burglary.
713
00:50:08,778 --> 00:50:11,137
Looks like someone's got a grudge
against my daughter.
714
00:50:11,138 --> 00:50:14,177
It was probably Tom Cruise,
because I stood him up.
715
00:50:14,178 --> 00:50:16,777
- Is that a boyfriend, miss?
- I think it was a joke.
716
00:50:16,778 --> 00:50:18,769
I certainly hope so.
717
00:50:18,818 --> 00:50:21,048
Oh, yeah, Tom Cruise.
718
00:50:21,098 --> 00:50:26,331
- Did they get anything?
- Hard to say. Not my TV or my iPod.
719
00:50:26,378 --> 00:50:27,737
They must have missed them.
720
00:50:27,738 --> 00:50:31,333
They took my laptop
with all the research.
721
00:50:31,378 --> 00:50:33,977
- Did you see them, Chas?
- Only a blur, I'm afraid.
722
00:50:33,978 --> 00:50:36,970
It's probably as well, darling.
723
00:50:37,018 --> 00:50:39,457
Well, you can't stay here.
Come home with me.
724
00:50:39,458 --> 00:50:42,977
Yeah, the Home Secretary can provide
round-the-clock protection.
725
00:50:42,978 --> 00:50:45,057
- His name is Neil.
- Yeah, I know his name.
726
00:50:45,058 --> 00:50:48,377
Would you be able to come to the station
some time and sign a statement, Charlie?
727
00:50:48,378 --> 00:50:51,497
No, no, no. Get the CID onto this.
Check for fingerprints.
728
00:50:51,498 --> 00:50:53,170
It's just a burglary.
729
00:50:55,058 --> 00:50:57,253
Yes, Sir John. Of course.
730
00:50:57,298 --> 00:51:00,097
Why don't you call
Supt Gaghan at Scotland Yard?
731
00:51:00,098 --> 00:51:02,165
I'm sure she's bound to help(!)
732
00:51:05,178 --> 00:51:07,134
Who's Supt Gaghan, Dad?
733
00:51:07,178 --> 00:51:09,657
Someone who's as useless
as the Home Secretary.
734
00:51:09,658 --> 00:51:11,577
- Don't listen to him.
- Any comment?
735
00:51:11,578 --> 00:51:15,337
- It's a minor break-in.
- Is law and order getting out of control?
736
00:51:15,338 --> 00:51:17,217
If that's the line you're running.
737
00:51:17,218 --> 00:51:19,737
There have been more
drug-related robberies.
738
00:51:19,738 --> 00:51:21,497
Best talk to the Home Secretary
about that.
739
00:51:21,498 --> 00:51:23,697
- What's going on, Dad?
- I don't know, Chas.
740
00:51:23,698 --> 00:51:25,697
Are Caversham coming after us?
741
00:51:25,698 --> 00:51:27,537
They're the ones
with the most to lose.
742
00:51:27,538 --> 00:51:28,977
It could have been anyone.
743
00:51:28,978 --> 00:51:33,057
There were two of them. They
didn't take er iPod, or even her money.
744
00:51:33,058 --> 00:51:34,337
They could've missed them.
745
00:51:34,338 --> 00:51:36,454
Burglars don't miss a sixpence.
746
00:51:36,498 --> 00:51:38,136
What was in your laptop?
747
00:51:38,178 --> 00:51:39,896
The usual stuff.
748
00:51:39,938 --> 00:51:41,538
Notes on neural deficit,
749
00:51:41,578 --> 00:51:45,177
the papers from the internet
speculating about the cause.
750
00:51:45,178 --> 00:51:47,537
Nothing that can't be got
with hours of research.
751
00:51:47,538 --> 00:51:49,335
What about your bag?
752
00:51:49,378 --> 00:51:52,912
There's no startling new evidence.
It's all available.
753
00:51:52,938 --> 00:51:56,497
- Cumulatively, it amounts to what?
- Well, that depends.
754
00:51:56,498 --> 00:51:59,537
How long the government
and pharmaceutical companies
755
00:51:59,538 --> 00:52:04,017
keep on saying the rise in neural deficit
in these soldiers is coincidental.
756
00:52:04,018 --> 00:52:06,137
Neil says it's due to
better reporting by GPs.
757
00:52:06,138 --> 00:52:08,017
He speaks on health as well now?
758
00:52:08,018 --> 00:52:11,297
The families of those damaged soldiers
aren't buying that, Mum.
759
00:52:11,298 --> 00:52:13,448
Time you got a properjob, Chas.
760
00:52:13,498 --> 00:52:15,853
I'll borrow a laptop.
761
00:52:15,898 --> 00:52:18,165
I'll do the work in half the time.
762
00:52:22,258 --> 00:52:26,217
Information freely available
on the internet
763
00:52:26,258 --> 00:52:31,173
is not information
free to commercial enterprise.
764
00:52:31,218 --> 00:52:35,769
Internet Raiders stole not one
of my published ideas, but 27.
765
00:52:35,818 --> 00:52:40,334
Three of these ideas, including
my online data recovery software,
766
00:52:40,378 --> 00:52:46,055
have made them a great deal
of money - over 200 million.
767
00:52:46,098 --> 00:52:51,809
With a modest 10$% royalty,
they would owe me 20 million.
768
00:52:51,858 --> 00:52:54,577
I do intend to recover
what is rightfully mine,
769
00:52:54,578 --> 00:52:59,777
and to this end,
I will be calling 127 witnesses...
770
00:52:59,818 --> 00:53:01,497
Yes, I saw your list, Mr McCartney.
771
00:53:01,498 --> 00:53:05,730
It presages an even longer event
than the McLibel trial.
772
00:53:05,778 --> 00:53:10,645
The legal costs alone to the claimants
in that case were over? 10,000,000.
773
00:53:10,658 --> 00:53:14,017
Internet Raiders Incorporated
must be quaking at the prospect.
774
00:53:14,018 --> 00:53:17,010
Internet Raiders are a cash-rich company
775
00:53:17,058 --> 00:53:20,892
which is being financially prejudiced
by this action.
776
00:53:20,938 --> 00:53:25,011
We would like to either see
this spurious claim struck out
777
00:53:25,058 --> 00:53:30,815
or at least set a reasonable time-frame
of, say, one week?
778
00:53:30,858 --> 00:53:32,416
I doubt if Mr McCartney
779
00:53:32,458 --> 00:53:35,617
could read the qualifications
of his witnesses in that time.
780
00:53:35,618 --> 00:53:38,017
Well, then we respectfully request
your lordship
781
00:53:38,018 --> 00:53:42,330
utilises provision of
the Civil Procedure, Rule 35.1,
782
00:53:42,378 --> 00:53:46,337
and limits experts to... one per side.
783
00:53:46,378 --> 00:53:51,293
Mr McCartney has listed in detail
what ground his experts will cover.
784
00:53:51,338 --> 00:53:53,657
No, what I am going to do now
is adjourn
785
00:53:53,658 --> 00:53:56,137
so that each of the parties
can speak to the other.
786
00:53:56,138 --> 00:53:59,097
Who knows, you might even
reach a settlement. Talk.
787
00:53:59,098 --> 00:54:00,937
I don't mind if it takes a week.
788
00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:02,530
All rise.
789
00:54:09,578 --> 00:54:12,172
I feel like I've escaped prison.
790
00:54:12,218 --> 00:54:14,857
Mr McCartney wants is day
in court, Judge.
791
00:54:14,858 --> 00:54:17,133
He's had four already!
792
00:54:17,178 --> 00:54:20,090
Sir Monty Everard sends his regrets.
793
00:54:20,138 --> 00:54:22,891
He's another who can't sit with you.
794
00:54:22,938 --> 00:54:26,248
Then I'll formally
open proceedings on my own.
795
00:54:26,298 --> 00:54:27,936
Warn the other parties.
796
00:54:27,978 --> 00:54:30,045
Do you think you should, Judge?
797
00:54:33,578 --> 00:54:36,251
I'm not sure we can stop Deed.
798
00:54:36,298 --> 00:54:38,697
It's not lawful,
him sitting alone, is it?
799
00:54:38,698 --> 00:54:39,926
Probably not.
800
00:54:39,978 --> 00:54:42,697
Then if he does, it'll be struck down.
801
00:54:42,738 --> 00:54:45,650
Nothing encourages me to think I'd win.
802
00:54:45,698 --> 00:54:49,032
I don't want to spend a night in jail
for contempt.
803
00:54:52,578 --> 00:54:56,457
Is it contempt
if more asbestos were found?
804
00:54:58,178 --> 00:55:01,697
- More asbestos?
- That's what Brian Harrison told me.
805
00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:04,007
I want to see for myself.
806
00:55:10,258 --> 00:55:13,697
This court was perfectly usable
two hours ago, Mr Harrison.
807
00:55:13,698 --> 00:55:15,654
I know, Sir John. Asbestos.
808
00:55:15,698 --> 00:55:17,497
- Show it to me.
- I daren't, Sir John.
809
00:55:17,498 --> 00:55:20,177
Like some wild dangerous beast,
is it, ready to spring out?
810
00:55:20,178 --> 00:55:21,178
Sir John?
811
00:55:21,218 --> 00:55:22,817
If there was so much asbestos,
812
00:55:22,818 --> 00:55:25,777
half their lordships would be down
with mesothelioma.
813
00:55:25,778 --> 00:55:27,537
I can't breach ealth
and safety regulations.
814
00:55:27,538 --> 00:55:30,457
Find me an alternative court
or we'll hear it in the corridor.
815
00:55:30,458 --> 00:55:31,937
There isn't a court!
816
00:55:31,978 --> 00:55:35,578
You've got 30 minutes
or we'll hear it in the corridor.
817
00:55:37,138 --> 00:55:39,897
You ought to be ashamed of yourself,
Brian.
818
00:55:39,898 --> 00:55:41,937
I'm only following orders, Rita.
819
00:55:41,938 --> 00:55:44,452
That's even more shameful.
820
00:55:45,538 --> 00:55:49,577
My lord, I urge you not to hear
this case in the corridor.
821
00:55:49,618 --> 00:55:54,177
The court is anywhere a High Court judge
decides to preside over a lawful trial.
822
00:55:54,178 --> 00:55:57,257
Ajudge sitting alone
in the Divisional Court of the High Court
823
00:55:57,258 --> 00:55:59,567
is not lawful, my lord.
824
00:55:59,618 --> 00:56:02,937
Yes, I am aware of Section 66
of the Supreme Court Act, Ian.
825
00:56:02,938 --> 00:56:06,977
My lord, if you were to
ear this case in the corridor,
826
00:56:07,018 --> 00:56:11,285
it would look like transitional justice
in an emerging democracy.
827
00:56:16,138 --> 00:56:17,935
Yes. You're right.
828
00:56:17,978 --> 00:56:20,208
It should be heard in a court.
829
00:56:24,258 --> 00:56:26,697
And then this point is further developed
830
00:56:26,698 --> 00:56:31,032
in the respondent's skeleton argument,
my lord, at paragraph nine.
831
00:56:33,378 --> 00:56:36,377
Your lordship will see
that the case cited there
832
00:56:36,378 --> 00:56:38,737
is Charles and the Queen,
the Privy Council...
833
00:56:38,738 --> 00:56:43,057
Sir Joseph, Mr Justice Deed would like
to see you in his chambers urgently.
834
00:56:43,058 --> 00:56:48,690
Yes, well, this is, uh...
this is all very interesting,
835
00:56:48,738 --> 00:56:53,687
but I'll need to study
these papers in detail.
836
00:56:53,738 --> 00:56:55,217
All rise.
837
00:56:57,338 --> 00:57:00,297
Does this case have anything
to do with Charlie's mugging?
838
00:57:00,298 --> 00:57:02,016
Yes, I believe so.
839
00:57:02,058 --> 00:57:04,413
Why isn't Haughton doing something?
840
00:57:04,458 --> 00:57:09,525
The Home Secretary's too busy protecting
the interests of the drug companies.
841
00:57:11,818 --> 00:57:16,494
Joe, will you sit with me?
842
00:57:18,858 --> 00:57:22,977
You can use my court, but I don't think
I can have anything to do with it.
843
00:57:22,978 --> 00:57:26,857
You cannot lawfully sit on your own.
844
00:57:26,898 --> 00:57:30,777
It undermines the rule of law
and brings the bench into disrepute.
845
00:57:30,778 --> 00:57:35,613
Regardless, I'm going to take
a bold step forjustice and sit alone.
846
00:57:35,658 --> 00:57:39,537
If you won't join me,
any ruling I make will be invalid
847
00:57:39,578 --> 00:57:41,808
and I shall have been defeated.
848
00:57:41,858 --> 00:57:44,895
- But then so too will justice.
- John!
849
00:57:44,938 --> 00:57:47,327
John, don't be such a bloody fool!
70592
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