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He was screaming and screaming. 4 00:01:14,126 --> 00:01:17,193 - You should have woken me. - I couldn't sleep. 5 00:01:17,618 --> 00:01:20,451 I couldn't... 6 00:01:20,498 --> 00:01:23,649 Why don't you go back to the doctor? 7 00:01:23,698 --> 00:01:25,336 They stole my life! 8 00:01:29,138 --> 00:01:30,412 Our life. 9 00:01:33,776 --> 00:01:36,271 Come on, love, you need to sleep. 10 00:01:36,273 --> 00:01:39,590 No, that doesn't stop the headaches. 11 00:01:45,298 --> 00:01:49,530 I'll get David breakfast and take him to the park before school. 12 00:01:52,018 --> 00:01:54,737 - I've let you both down, Lizzy. - Oh, no. 13 00:01:54,738 --> 00:01:57,047 - I have. - No, come on. 14 00:01:58,618 --> 00:02:01,769 It's not your fault, what they gave you. 15 00:02:05,218 --> 00:02:07,285 We can still fight this, Brian. 16 00:02:08,658 --> 00:02:10,649 Maybe it's time to give up. 17 00:02:10,698 --> 00:02:12,290 Mum! Dad! 18 00:02:12,338 --> 00:02:15,011 - I'll go. - No, it's OK. 19 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:19,251 Mum! 20 00:02:20,738 --> 00:02:22,968 Dad! 21 00:02:35,618 --> 00:02:38,212 All right, come on. Watch your steps. 22 00:02:38,258 --> 00:02:39,771 Right. That's it. 23 00:02:39,818 --> 00:02:43,094 One, two. Good boy. 24 00:02:43,138 --> 00:02:45,333 Watch the road now. 25 00:02:45,378 --> 00:02:46,857 OK? 26 00:02:48,858 --> 00:02:51,057 We're going to go somewhere nice, David. 27 00:02:51,058 --> 00:02:53,992 Somewhere very nice. All right? Here you are. 28 00:04:33,138 --> 00:04:35,217 "For if the darkness and corruption 29 00:04:35,218 --> 00:04:38,608 "leave a vestige of the thoughts that once I had, 30 00:04:38,658 --> 00:04:42,571 "better by far you should forget and smile 31 00:04:42,618 --> 00:04:47,009 "than that you should remember and be sad." 32 00:04:57,338 --> 00:04:59,272 Thank you for coming, Stella. 33 00:05:08,618 --> 00:05:10,352 Well, you know where I am. 34 00:05:15,858 --> 00:05:18,659 I should have got up with him that morning. 35 00:05:25,218 --> 00:05:27,652 Brian couldn't take it any more. 36 00:05:27,698 --> 00:05:29,211 Neither of us could. 37 00:05:30,778 --> 00:05:32,257 Not even David. 38 00:05:33,858 --> 00:05:38,329 Taking away our legal aid like they did was the last straw. 39 00:05:39,698 --> 00:05:43,537 We might still be able to get the drugs company into court. 40 00:05:43,538 --> 00:05:48,214 Now, I don't want to give you any false hopes, but I won't give up. 41 00:06:08,178 --> 00:06:09,697 I won't drop this. I can't. 42 00:06:09,698 --> 00:06:12,977 Mr Justice Niven has ruled that the decision to withdraw funding 43 00:06:12,978 --> 00:06:13,888 was reasonable. 44 00:06:13,938 --> 00:06:16,497 He's like a mouthpiece for the Government and the drug companies. 45 00:06:16,498 --> 00:06:19,097 This soldier - this acutely depressed soldier - 46 00:06:19,098 --> 00:06:21,937 killing himself and his child must mean something. 47 00:06:21,938 --> 00:06:25,294 Legal aid had encouraged them with funding, 48 00:06:25,338 --> 00:06:27,217 and the other soldiers damaged by the vaccinations. 49 00:06:27,218 --> 00:06:29,413 Then, inches away from court, 50 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:31,777 it was withdrawn on instructions from the Government. 51 00:06:31,778 --> 00:06:32,817 Evidence of that? 52 00:06:32,818 --> 00:06:35,217 They know these drugs cause neurological problems. 53 00:06:35,218 --> 00:06:38,737 There's a yawning gap between what we know and can be proven. 54 00:06:38,738 --> 00:06:41,097 John! How many more people's lives must be ruined 55 00:06:41,098 --> 00:06:44,297 while these drug companies make bigger and bigger profits? 56 00:06:44,298 --> 00:06:47,577 And the worst of it is that the Army mocks and reviles 57 00:06:47,578 --> 00:06:51,337 Brian Meam and the others, telling them they're mad and mistaken. 58 00:06:51,338 --> 00:06:53,057 Why didn't he go after the Army? 59 00:06:53,058 --> 00:06:56,337 The Army argued successfully that the drugs weren't damaging, 60 00:06:56,338 --> 00:06:59,737 and if they were, they wouldn't have had the means to tell, anyway. 61 00:06:59,738 --> 00:07:02,537 All Brian Meam wanted was for someone to acknowledge 62 00:07:02,538 --> 00:07:05,057 that the cocktail of vaccinations forced on him 63 00:07:05,058 --> 00:07:07,057 might just have caused his problems. 64 00:07:07,058 --> 00:07:08,177 And if they didn't? 65 00:07:08,178 --> 00:07:10,457 He was formally fit and healthy, like the other soldiers were. 66 00:07:10,458 --> 00:07:13,058 His medical records clearly state that. 67 00:07:14,098 --> 00:07:16,097 What do you want me to do, Jo? 68 00:07:16,098 --> 00:07:19,010 I'm hard against the wall. 69 00:07:19,058 --> 00:07:20,977 There must be some way round this. 70 00:07:20,978 --> 00:07:24,577 The issue of legal aid being withdrawn needs to be re-examined. 71 00:07:24,578 --> 00:07:27,377 Well, I don't see how. Mr Justice Niven has ruled. 72 00:07:27,378 --> 00:07:31,177 John, can't you see the injustice staring you in the face? 73 00:07:31,178 --> 00:07:34,090 Mr Justice Niven is totally biased. 74 00:07:34,138 --> 00:07:36,537 His whole family are research doctors. 75 00:07:36,538 --> 00:07:40,817 His son lives in the same village as a lawyer from the Funding Review Committee. 76 00:07:40,818 --> 00:07:42,337 They play tennis together! 77 00:07:42,338 --> 00:07:46,331 Mr Justice Niven is a High Court judge of long standing. 78 00:07:46,378 --> 00:07:49,617 Now, can you really substantiate these allegations? 79 00:07:49,618 --> 00:07:52,177 At one time, you would have stormed the citadel. 80 00:07:52,178 --> 00:07:53,293 Oh, don't start. 81 00:07:53,338 --> 00:07:57,097 Broken down the barricades. All you needed was a whiff of injustice. 82 00:07:57,098 --> 00:07:59,232 I am sorry to have bothered you. 83 00:08:24,578 --> 00:08:27,257 - Coop! - Oh, I wasn't expecting you back. 84 00:08:27,258 --> 00:08:30,817 See if Mr Justice Niven is still in the building, please. I'd like a word. 85 00:08:30,818 --> 00:08:33,969 - Here, Judge, or in his room? - Just find him. 86 00:08:35,498 --> 00:08:38,017 The decision of the Funding Review Committee 87 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:41,577 to withdraw the legal aid certificate was perfectly fair, John. 88 00:08:41,578 --> 00:08:45,137 How could the Government or anyone else have manipulated things? 89 00:08:45,138 --> 00:08:48,777 Weren't these soldiers perfectly normal before the vaccinations? 90 00:08:48,778 --> 00:08:50,497 According to his medical record, 91 00:08:50,498 --> 00:08:53,697 there was nothing to connect is condition causally to them. 92 00:08:53,698 --> 00:08:58,137 Counsel for the claimant suggested that scientific evidence would soon be found - 93 00:08:58,138 --> 00:09:00,897 seems a bizarre basis for continuing funding. 94 00:09:00,898 --> 00:09:04,817 These cases bumped along for five years, Michael, fully funded. 95 00:09:04,818 --> 00:09:09,767 And then moments before the doors of the High Court, funding is withdrawn. 96 00:09:09,818 --> 00:09:12,729 The tests for legal aid are far more stringent now. 97 00:09:12,730 --> 00:09:17,097 Part 15.3 of the Funding Code says that a certificate can be withdrawn 98 00:09:17,098 --> 00:09:20,232 when it is unreasonable for funding to continue. 99 00:09:20,258 --> 00:09:24,577 Without causal connection, it was unreasonable for them to continue. 100 00:09:24,578 --> 00:09:29,297 15.3 also deals with the wider public interest. Surely there was one here. 101 00:09:29,298 --> 00:09:32,574 In my view, it was addressed. 102 00:09:33,618 --> 00:09:37,685 - How did this come your way? - I have some medical knowledge. 103 00:09:37,698 --> 00:09:38,847 Oh. 104 00:09:38,898 --> 00:09:41,457 I read medicine at Jesus before I did law. 105 00:09:41,458 --> 00:09:45,167 Someone had to separate law from emotion. 106 00:09:45,218 --> 00:09:48,457 There was an awful lot of emotion surrounding these cases. 107 00:09:48,458 --> 00:09:49,697 How could there not be? 108 00:09:49,698 --> 00:09:52,577 This was just one of a number of soldiers who committed suicide. 109 00:09:52,578 --> 00:09:57,049 It was the absence of evidence that led me to my conclusion. 110 00:09:57,098 --> 00:10:00,698 We mustn't unreasonably damage pharmaceutical companies 111 00:10:00,738 --> 00:10:02,377 on the basis of hysteria. 112 00:10:02,378 --> 00:10:05,857 They can't function with the prospect of lawsuits hanging over them. 113 00:10:05,858 --> 00:10:09,137 Mistakes must sometimes be viewed tolerantly by the courts. 114 00:10:09,138 --> 00:10:12,847 In a single case, perhaps, but surely not on this scale? 115 00:10:12,898 --> 00:10:15,617 Nothing suggests a widespread problem. 116 00:10:15,658 --> 00:10:20,617 Pharmaceutical companies are in the front line in the fight against bio-terrorism. 117 00:10:20,618 --> 00:10:24,377 They were helping to protect these soldiers and everyone else. 118 00:10:24,378 --> 00:10:26,334 We mustn't impede them 119 00:10:26,378 --> 00:10:28,369 with unjustifiable actions. 120 00:10:33,258 --> 00:10:36,857 Is Mrs Mills still tied up with that rag-bag of radicals? 121 00:10:36,858 --> 00:10:38,177 Yes. 122 00:10:38,218 --> 00:10:43,057 But that doesn't preclude the possibility of her clients being treated unfairly. 123 00:10:43,058 --> 00:10:45,526 By Michael Niven? I doubt it. 124 00:10:45,578 --> 00:10:47,657 Oh, there is a serious risk of bias. 125 00:10:47,658 --> 00:10:50,137 His medical connections are well known. 126 00:10:50,138 --> 00:10:52,015 Doesn't his son play tennis 127 00:10:52,058 --> 00:10:54,777 with one of the lawyers on the Funding Review Committee? 128 00:10:54,778 --> 00:10:56,737 No, no, no. That doesn't follow. 129 00:10:56,738 --> 00:10:58,697 You must accept what you are, John. 130 00:10:58,698 --> 00:11:02,008 A member of a very exclusive club. 131 00:11:16,098 --> 00:11:18,407 It can't be that bad. 132 00:11:19,458 --> 00:11:22,291 Well, I'm not suicidal. Not yet, anyway. 133 00:11:22,338 --> 00:11:25,605 Everything is improved with another glass of wine. 134 00:11:26,618 --> 00:11:29,974 - Cheers. - Thank you. 135 00:11:42,338 --> 00:11:44,408 We used to play this as kids. 136 00:11:44,458 --> 00:11:46,016 I know another game. 137 00:11:48,418 --> 00:11:50,773 I have a room here, Judge. 138 00:11:50,818 --> 00:11:53,286 How did you know I was a judge? 139 00:11:53,338 --> 00:11:54,817 You told me. 140 00:11:56,898 --> 00:11:58,377 Come on. 141 00:12:15,858 --> 00:12:18,737 - You're very naughty. - I haven't done anything yet. 142 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,615 Yet. 143 00:12:20,658 --> 00:12:22,535 Here I am. 144 00:12:28,218 --> 00:12:31,016 Am I very drunk, Judy? 145 00:12:31,058 --> 00:12:34,297 - You're not drunk at all. - Why is everybody staring? 146 00:12:34,298 --> 00:12:36,812 No-one is staring at you, Judge. 147 00:12:39,458 --> 00:12:44,578 Yes, I am. I am far too drunk to be of any use to either of us. 148 00:12:44,618 --> 00:12:46,449 Thanks for the offer. 149 00:12:47,818 --> 00:12:50,457 John! Come back. 150 00:13:01,778 --> 00:13:04,617 - What happened? - He said he was too drunk. 151 00:13:04,618 --> 00:13:06,813 OK. 152 00:13:06,858 --> 00:13:09,053 We'll catch him another time. 153 00:13:38,858 --> 00:13:40,371 Who is it? 154 00:13:40,418 --> 00:13:42,613 - Jo, it's John. - John who? 155 00:13:42,658 --> 00:13:45,126 How many Johns do you know? 156 00:13:45,178 --> 00:13:47,294 What do you want, John? 157 00:13:47,338 --> 00:13:48,930 To talk... 158 00:13:48,978 --> 00:13:50,912 about Michael Niven's ruling. 159 00:13:58,138 --> 00:14:01,733 - Colby. - Deed's shown up at Mrs Mills'. 160 00:14:01,778 --> 00:14:03,336 To talk about the case? 161 00:14:03,378 --> 00:14:05,414 It started that way. 162 00:14:05,458 --> 00:14:08,211 It's more about sex now. Listen. 163 00:14:09,778 --> 00:14:12,137 - John. We shouldn't... - Shouldn't what? 164 00:14:12,138 --> 00:14:14,936 OK. So what happened? Hmm. 165 00:14:16,178 --> 00:14:21,097 All right, Tom. Now, listen. I want a full transcript of everything said. Yeah? 166 00:14:21,098 --> 00:14:23,432 All right. Speak to you later. Bye. 167 00:14:29,818 --> 00:14:31,337 Deed is with the lawyer. 168 00:14:31,338 --> 00:14:34,257 It appears amorous, but they are talking about the case. 169 00:14:34,258 --> 00:14:37,177 - Well, that won't benefit us, will it? - It might, sir. 170 00:14:37,178 --> 00:14:39,457 We should go full surveillance on Deed. 171 00:14:39,458 --> 00:14:43,297 I can't procure a fully authorised tap on a High Court judge, Major. 172 00:14:43,298 --> 00:14:46,177 That won't be necessary. We can handle it ourselves. 173 00:14:46,178 --> 00:14:48,976 There is a lot at stake, Percy. 174 00:14:50,778 --> 00:14:52,052 Shall we? 175 00:15:05,938 --> 00:15:07,769 You gave me a turn, Judge. 176 00:15:07,818 --> 00:15:11,697 I thought perhaps someone was here who shouldn't have been. 177 00:15:11,738 --> 00:15:13,774 - Like who? - Oh, I don't know. 178 00:15:13,818 --> 00:15:16,697 There are weird people creeping about from the DCA. 179 00:15:16,698 --> 00:15:20,297 There was one here this morning who was doing an audit on equipment. 180 00:15:20,298 --> 00:15:22,687 Spying on us, more likely. 181 00:15:22,738 --> 00:15:25,072 I wondered why the door was locked. 182 00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:27,657 Did you look at the internet plagiarism papers? 183 00:15:27,658 --> 00:15:30,809 80,000 pages?! o, I told them I didn't want it. 184 00:15:30,858 --> 00:15:33,057 I haven't got two years to spare. 185 00:15:33,058 --> 00:15:36,417 The court manager hoped I'd persuade you. There's no-one else. 186 00:15:36,418 --> 00:15:38,693 No. I'm not surprised. Come on! 187 00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:40,808 You looking for something? 188 00:15:40,858 --> 00:15:45,727 Yeah. Information on that soldier who killed himself and his child. 189 00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:47,377 The papers said he was depressed. 190 00:15:47,378 --> 00:15:49,175 Yes. 191 00:15:49,218 --> 00:15:52,019 It looks like the family went through hell. 192 00:15:55,058 --> 00:15:56,810 Judge? 193 00:15:57,898 --> 00:16:01,097 See if you can find out ow the legal aid funding review 194 00:16:01,098 --> 00:16:03,337 went to Mr Justice Niven, will you, please? 195 00:16:03,338 --> 00:16:06,808 - OK. - And where Mrs Mills is this morning. 196 00:16:14,898 --> 00:16:18,137 Have you explored every avenue on this denial of legal aid? 197 00:16:18,138 --> 00:16:20,857 John, I know you don't like the company I keep, 198 00:16:20,858 --> 00:16:23,977 but they are competent and concerned forjustice for the soldiers. 199 00:16:23,978 --> 00:16:26,217 Have they found you a way round Mr Justice Niven? 200 00:16:26,218 --> 00:16:28,217 Of course not. He was far too clever. 201 00:16:28,218 --> 00:16:30,497 He's savaged the case and threatened them with costs 202 00:16:30,498 --> 00:16:34,411 if they pressed for a full hearing in the Divisional Court. 203 00:16:34,458 --> 00:16:35,617 Is there any new evidence? 204 00:16:35,618 --> 00:16:39,217 All routes to the full court go through Mr Justice Niven, Sir John. 205 00:16:39,218 --> 00:16:42,297 We can't revisit the decision to withdraw funding. 206 00:16:42,298 --> 00:16:44,857 Unless the conduct of the litigation was invalid. 207 00:16:44,858 --> 00:16:46,097 Are you saying it was? 208 00:16:46,098 --> 00:16:50,057 You have considered possible bias in view of his medical connections? 209 00:16:50,058 --> 00:16:51,332 You know we have. 210 00:16:51,378 --> 00:16:54,057 Yeah. We were told it helped is understanding of the case. 211 00:16:54,058 --> 00:16:56,017 And what about is son's relationship 212 00:16:56,018 --> 00:16:58,777 with one of the lawyers on the funding committee? 213 00:16:58,778 --> 00:17:01,217 That just takes the argument back to Niven. 214 00:17:01,218 --> 00:17:05,689 Try and establish possible bias with the proceedings before him. 215 00:17:05,738 --> 00:17:08,657 Then make an application before me in the Divisional Court, 216 00:17:08,658 --> 00:17:10,497 if you can find anotherjudge. 217 00:17:10,498 --> 00:17:13,777 Well, where are we supposed to find one, at Woolworths? 218 00:17:13,778 --> 00:17:15,937 No. We'll get through this somehow. 219 00:17:15,938 --> 00:17:17,610 You're welcome. 220 00:17:18,938 --> 00:17:20,849 Jo! 221 00:17:20,898 --> 00:17:23,897 He's just made us the sort of offer we can't refuse. 222 00:17:23,898 --> 00:17:27,377 There's too many complications. Believe me, it's not worth it. 223 00:17:27,378 --> 00:17:31,312 If it gets us another day in court, who cares how we get it? 224 00:17:32,298 --> 00:17:34,698 If I told you we had sex last night? 225 00:17:38,498 --> 00:17:41,615 Well, you're both consenting. 226 00:17:41,658 --> 00:17:44,695 Think about all those damaged soldiers. 227 00:17:44,738 --> 00:17:46,217 What about Lizzy Meam? 228 00:17:46,258 --> 00:17:50,457 She's lost her husband and her son as a result of those vaccinations. 229 00:17:50,458 --> 00:17:53,297 And if we won and anyone found out about me and Deed? 230 00:17:53,298 --> 00:17:55,493 Not only would we be appealed, 231 00:17:55,538 --> 00:17:58,537 we would have hefty costs against us, and so would the soldiers. 232 00:17:58,538 --> 00:18:00,847 First, we'd have to get to court. 233 00:18:00,898 --> 00:18:04,811 Then get our funding. Then someone would have to find out. 234 00:18:04,858 --> 00:18:06,576 Just talk to Lizzy Meam. 235 00:18:30,338 --> 00:18:33,937 Can Deed review the previous judge's decision in this case? 236 00:18:33,938 --> 00:18:35,929 I can't see how. 237 00:18:35,978 --> 00:18:37,712 The case has been decided. 238 00:18:39,018 --> 00:18:43,534 We spent a lot of money on intelligence, Neil, as you know. 239 00:18:43,578 --> 00:18:47,057 Then you'll know the one thing Deed always does in his meddling 240 00:18:47,058 --> 00:18:48,925 is operate within the rules. 241 00:18:50,578 --> 00:18:55,572 The head of the DCA informs Percy Thrower that Deed cannot reopen 242 00:18:55,618 --> 00:19:00,177 that which another High Court judge as closed. It's unconstitutional. 243 00:19:00,178 --> 00:19:02,257 Were we to let it happen, we'd have judges reopening anything they chose. 244 00:19:02,258 --> 00:19:06,171 And if he tries to look at the procedure, not the merits? 245 00:19:06,218 --> 00:19:10,575 These vaccines are so very important for our protection, Neil. 246 00:19:10,618 --> 00:19:14,377 The Government promised to ring-fence the pharmaceutical industry 247 00:19:14,378 --> 00:19:16,857 and protect us against compensation claims. 248 00:19:16,858 --> 00:19:20,697 We can't go on developing drugs against bio-terrorism agents 249 00:19:20,698 --> 00:19:25,214 when our coffers are being sucked dry by obsessive claimants. 250 00:19:25,258 --> 00:19:29,937 A development fund of 4 billion is not likely to see the pot running dry. 251 00:19:29,938 --> 00:19:32,372 We'll deliver what we promised. 252 00:19:32,418 --> 00:19:35,457 Our Civil Contingencies Amendment Bill will protect you 253 00:19:35,458 --> 00:19:38,097 and other major pharmaceuticals from ever being sued. 254 00:19:38,098 --> 00:19:39,292 Good. 255 00:19:39,338 --> 00:19:42,805 It'll be law before Deed gets off the starting block. 256 00:19:46,618 --> 00:19:49,291 I feel very bitter, Mrs Mills. 257 00:19:49,338 --> 00:19:52,887 That first lot of solicitors we had were wicked. 258 00:19:52,938 --> 00:19:56,657 They got an expert witness from the drug company's website! 259 00:19:56,658 --> 00:20:01,925 We didn't know any better, but they must ave known he'd help them more than us. 260 00:20:03,858 --> 00:20:07,857 If they'd have let us get to court, Brian and David would still be alive. 261 00:20:07,858 --> 00:20:11,258 We'd have enough money to get proper help for Brian. 262 00:20:12,218 --> 00:20:15,737 Why do the drugs company threaten everyone with costs like that? 263 00:20:15,738 --> 00:20:17,537 Don't they have enough money? 264 00:20:17,538 --> 00:20:20,617 Survival, profits, that's all that matters to them. 265 00:20:20,618 --> 00:20:23,849 You somehow wish it would happen to some of them. 266 00:20:23,898 --> 00:20:27,288 They used Brian and all the others as guinea pigs. 267 00:20:31,458 --> 00:20:35,525 There is a chance that they could go after us again for costs, 268 00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:37,377 if we got to court and lost. 269 00:20:37,378 --> 00:20:39,334 I don't see any point now. 270 00:20:42,538 --> 00:20:44,938 It won't bring Brian and David back. 271 00:20:50,298 --> 00:20:53,449 Maybe they've found some peace at last. 272 00:20:53,498 --> 00:20:55,632 I feel I've let you down, Lizzy. 273 00:20:59,418 --> 00:21:00,897 It's weird. 274 00:21:03,378 --> 00:21:05,175 I miss Brian's screaming. 275 00:21:07,898 --> 00:21:10,699 I'd put up with anything to have him back. 276 00:21:13,698 --> 00:21:15,417 It would start without warning 277 00:21:15,418 --> 00:21:18,952 and end up with him banging his head against the wall. 278 00:21:20,858 --> 00:21:23,858 What made it worse was not being able to help. 279 00:21:28,258 --> 00:21:35,175 I lie in bed and listen for sounds of him roaming around the house unable to sleep, 280 00:21:35,218 --> 00:21:37,015 praying... 281 00:21:37,058 --> 00:21:39,811 that he and David aren't really... 282 00:21:48,858 --> 00:21:53,295 Would they get the house if we lost, or what's not on the mortgage? 283 00:21:53,338 --> 00:21:54,817 They might try. 284 00:21:56,738 --> 00:21:58,933 Let them take it. 285 00:21:58,978 --> 00:22:01,657 I don't think I want to be here any more. 286 00:22:01,658 --> 00:22:03,977 I wouldn't want it costing you and Peter. 287 00:22:03,978 --> 00:22:06,897 I'm not sure I can pay you ow there's no legal aid. 288 00:22:06,898 --> 00:22:08,817 Peter's agreed to do it pro bono. 289 00:22:08,818 --> 00:22:10,618 I can manage without a fee. 290 00:22:10,658 --> 00:22:15,527 Lizzy, we could shove it right back at that pharmaceutical company, 291 00:22:15,578 --> 00:22:19,045 warn them how we might come after them for big costs. 292 00:22:20,338 --> 00:22:22,374 If we do get this started, 293 00:22:22,418 --> 00:22:26,952 you know what'll happen if they discover that we've recently had sex. 294 00:22:27,578 --> 00:22:29,245 Is that all it was? 295 00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:34,737 You could get one of the other advocates to lead. 296 00:22:34,738 --> 00:22:38,731 - You know I can't. - You risk being disbarred. 297 00:22:38,778 --> 00:22:40,657 In the face of such injustice, I don't see why I'd care. 298 00:22:40,658 --> 00:22:43,897 As much as I know a lot of people would like to get rid of me, 299 00:22:43,898 --> 00:22:45,456 I can't be disbarred. 300 00:22:47,618 --> 00:22:50,657 John, please try to get some otherjudges to take the application. 301 00:22:50,658 --> 00:22:52,694 Who would you suggest? 302 00:22:52,738 --> 00:22:54,091 Mimi! 303 00:23:08,978 --> 00:23:12,493 The clerk in the list office was very shirty 304 00:23:12,538 --> 00:23:15,097 about me getting the funding review papers. 305 00:23:15,098 --> 00:23:16,937 - Did he give a reason? - No. 306 00:23:16,938 --> 00:23:18,894 Just a load of old flannel. 307 00:23:18,938 --> 00:23:21,537 Did you find out how it went to Michael Niven? 308 00:23:21,538 --> 00:23:23,257 Someone bypassed the list office. 309 00:23:23,258 --> 00:23:25,857 That's what put the clerk's nose out of joint. 310 00:23:25,858 --> 00:23:27,894 Did Sir Michael ask for it? 311 00:23:27,938 --> 00:23:30,817 He was chosen because of his medical background. 312 00:23:30,818 --> 00:23:33,537 Both his sons and his daughter are doctors. 313 00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:35,777 And he went to college at the same time 314 00:23:35,778 --> 00:23:38,736 as Sir Ian Rochester and Sir Percy Thrower. 315 00:23:38,778 --> 00:23:41,975 Interesting. But circumstantial. 316 00:23:42,018 --> 00:23:44,657 He certainly gave the Government the response they wanted. 317 00:23:44,658 --> 00:23:45,693 Did he? 318 00:23:45,738 --> 00:23:49,257 Well, they're in partnership with the drugs companies nowadays. 319 00:23:49,258 --> 00:23:53,257 Well, let's see when I approach Ian Rochester about the case. 320 00:23:53,258 --> 00:23:54,850 That'll be fun. 321 00:23:57,818 --> 00:24:01,657 Surely it's not acceptable to examine a brotherjudge in this way 322 00:24:01,658 --> 00:24:03,617 now the Court of Appeal's ruled? 323 00:24:03,618 --> 00:24:04,937 Not on this, it hasn't. 324 00:24:04,938 --> 00:24:07,937 Presumably it thought the original decision was correct. 325 00:24:07,938 --> 00:24:12,257 Bias on the part of Michael Niven, if there was any, would invalidate that. 326 00:24:12,258 --> 00:24:16,729 I don't control the list. I can't jump a case listed for you 327 00:24:16,778 --> 00:24:18,577 in the Divisional Court to the front of the queue. 328 00:24:18,578 --> 00:24:23,245 If a court is free, and if I can find a judge, we can start right away. 329 00:24:26,018 --> 00:24:27,577 Aren't you supposed to be at the Hague? 330 00:24:27,578 --> 00:24:31,778 There isn't any work for me in the International Criminal Court. 331 00:24:31,818 --> 00:24:35,174 The world's awash with international criminals. 332 00:24:37,938 --> 00:24:41,374 Why did the original review go to Michael Niven? 333 00:24:41,418 --> 00:24:43,857 The next most suitable judge, presumably. 334 00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:46,895 You were at Cambridge together, weren't you? 335 00:24:46,938 --> 00:24:50,272 He was ahead of me. I'm not sure we ever met there. 336 00:24:51,178 --> 00:24:53,931 I do need a court, Ian. 337 00:24:53,978 --> 00:24:57,617 If Mrs Cooper calls Court Services, I'm sure they'll find you one, 338 00:24:57,618 --> 00:25:00,857 but you may be heading into dangerous waters with this. 339 00:25:00,858 --> 00:25:02,337 Ah. 340 00:25:19,738 --> 00:25:22,491 Mr Justice Niven, Judge. 341 00:25:22,538 --> 00:25:24,051 Michael. 342 00:25:24,098 --> 00:25:30,731 My clerk informs me you've asked for all the papers in the drugs funding review. 343 00:25:30,778 --> 00:25:35,135 - I don't think we got them. - Why do you want them? 344 00:25:35,178 --> 00:25:38,488 I've been asked to sit in the Divisional Court. 345 00:25:38,538 --> 00:25:40,257 We're looking at your ruling 346 00:25:40,258 --> 00:25:43,977 upholding the decision to withdraw funding from Brian Meam, 347 00:25:43,978 --> 00:25:45,696 the soldier. 348 00:25:45,738 --> 00:25:48,252 Who made this application? 349 00:25:48,298 --> 00:25:50,257 The representatives are Radical Lawyers for Justice. 350 00:25:50,258 --> 00:25:52,818 Ah. 351 00:25:52,858 --> 00:25:55,930 The decision to withdraw was appropriate. 352 00:25:55,978 --> 00:25:57,969 There is no causal link. 353 00:25:58,018 --> 00:26:02,216 A lot of state funding was already spent looking for a link. 354 00:26:02,258 --> 00:26:07,097 A hitherto healthy soldier was given a cocktail of drugs for his protection 355 00:26:07,098 --> 00:26:09,373 and suffered neurological damage. 356 00:26:09,418 --> 00:26:12,417 There was a history of ill health in his family. 357 00:26:12,418 --> 00:26:15,967 Nothing took me to the drugs as cause. 358 00:26:16,018 --> 00:26:19,897 Radical Lawyers claim your decision is unsustainable, Michael, 359 00:26:19,898 --> 00:26:22,817 on account of your background association with medics. 360 00:26:22,818 --> 00:26:24,410 My background...?! 361 00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:27,768 I saw no reasonable cause. 362 00:26:27,818 --> 00:26:31,457 One of your sons plays tennis with a lawyer who sat on the committee. 363 00:26:31,458 --> 00:26:34,697 - How could that affect my judgement?! - That's what we'll look at. 364 00:26:34,698 --> 00:26:39,032 This is not the sort of behaviour one expects from a brotherjudge. 365 00:26:39,818 --> 00:26:41,809 We won't wear it, John. 366 00:26:45,498 --> 00:26:48,617 Why would Ian Rochester lie about being at Jesus with Michael Niven? 367 00:26:48,618 --> 00:26:51,291 The information's so easily checked. 368 00:26:51,338 --> 00:26:53,454 They were there in '74. 369 00:26:53,498 --> 00:26:56,615 They even rowed together briefly. 370 00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:59,497 Could he be drawing you into this for some purpose? 371 00:26:59,498 --> 00:27:01,897 - Are you getting paranoid? - With just cause. 372 00:27:01,898 --> 00:27:05,057 Considering what's at stake for government and pharmaceutical companies. 373 00:27:05,058 --> 00:27:06,491 Evidence? 374 00:27:06,538 --> 00:27:08,813 Intuition. Not very reliable. 375 00:27:08,858 --> 00:27:11,247 Neither is evidence sometimes. 376 00:27:11,298 --> 00:27:15,814 I've got a feeling Sir Percy Thrower might provide a key. 377 00:27:15,858 --> 00:27:20,454 Because they were at Cambridge together? 378 00:27:20,498 --> 00:27:24,857 We keep coming back to the Home Office and its concern with bio-terrorism, right? 379 00:27:24,858 --> 00:27:28,017 The pharmaceuticals are making vaccines against possible attacks. 380 00:27:28,018 --> 00:27:33,490 The Army is providing them with guinea pigs. John, it's so unjust! 381 00:27:33,538 --> 00:27:37,577 They did that with soldiers in the '50s, testing the effects of nuclear weapons. 382 00:27:37,578 --> 00:27:39,091 One fight at a time. 383 00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:45,372 I'd concentrate on Michael Niven's possible bias. 384 00:27:46,938 --> 00:27:48,530 Do you want to eat? 385 00:27:48,578 --> 00:27:50,933 Not in the circumstances. 386 00:27:50,978 --> 00:27:53,897 Circumstantially, eating's no different from having a drink. 387 00:27:53,898 --> 00:27:56,765 - It's what happens afterwards. - Excuse me. 388 00:27:59,698 --> 00:28:01,768 - How are you? - Have we met? 389 00:28:01,818 --> 00:28:03,774 Ian Rochester's party. 390 00:28:03,818 --> 00:28:05,331 Wrong party. Sorry. 391 00:28:13,578 --> 00:28:16,817 You really don't let the grass grow under your feet, do you? 392 00:28:16,818 --> 00:28:18,376 No. 393 00:28:22,218 --> 00:28:24,049 What's all this? 394 00:28:24,098 --> 00:28:28,011 Papers from the Judicial Review Mr Justice Niven conducted. 395 00:28:28,058 --> 00:28:30,897 I'm looking at why the soldier's funding was withdrawn, 396 00:28:30,898 --> 00:28:33,017 not writing a history of legal aid. 397 00:28:33,018 --> 00:28:34,857 This is just a quarter of it! 398 00:28:34,858 --> 00:28:37,937 That's one way of slowing us up. Where's my policeman? 399 00:28:37,938 --> 00:28:42,539 - You banished him to the library. - I've got something for him to do. 400 00:28:43,138 --> 00:28:44,297 Have you taken up smoking? 401 00:28:44,298 --> 00:28:46,097 I want him to check that for fingerprints. 402 00:28:46,098 --> 00:28:47,857 I think the owner might be following me. 403 00:28:47,858 --> 00:28:49,735 - Why? - Don't tell Stephen. 404 00:28:49,778 --> 00:28:53,257 - He'll smother me with protection. - But if they're following you? 405 00:28:53,258 --> 00:28:56,257 Well, if we find out who, we might find out why. 406 00:28:56,258 --> 00:28:59,011 Tell him it's urgent. Oh, Coop. 407 00:28:59,058 --> 00:29:02,130 No more papers. I'll ask questions instead. 408 00:29:02,178 --> 00:29:03,657 Yes. 409 00:29:05,338 --> 00:29:07,568 Is Deed getting this case on? 410 00:29:07,618 --> 00:29:11,167 I wish I could say he wasn't, Percy. 411 00:29:11,218 --> 00:29:14,255 Caversham are feeling persecuted by him. 412 00:29:14,298 --> 00:29:18,977 He's looking into the possibility of apparent bias on Mr Justice Niven's part. 413 00:29:18,978 --> 00:29:20,172 A clever move. 414 00:29:20,218 --> 00:29:25,685 It means he isn't seen to be trespassing on the substance of the litigation itself. 415 00:29:28,978 --> 00:29:33,688 If the soldier's widow gets funding reinstated, 416 00:29:33,738 --> 00:29:38,607 she'd pursue the pharmaceutical companies through the courts. 417 00:29:38,658 --> 00:29:40,857 Some of our best lawyers are looking into 418 00:29:40,858 --> 00:29:43,657 why Deed shouldn't re-examine the Niven ruling. 419 00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:46,616 And if he does, Ian? 420 00:29:46,658 --> 00:29:48,897 Does it matter if this soldier's widow gets to court? 421 00:29:48,898 --> 00:29:50,417 Perhaps we owe her the truth. 422 00:29:50,418 --> 00:29:53,897 - The fallout could be huge. - Caversham might up and quit Britain. 423 00:29:53,898 --> 00:29:55,217 It's more than lost jobs. 424 00:29:55,218 --> 00:29:58,577 They are the vanguard in the PM's fight against bio-terrorism. 425 00:29:58,578 --> 00:30:02,577 We could speed up the Civil Contingencies Amendment Bill, Home Secretary. 426 00:30:02,578 --> 00:30:03,937 Give them the protection they need. 427 00:30:03,938 --> 00:30:07,055 Too much haste and we might be spotted. 428 00:30:09,898 --> 00:30:14,176 Efforts are being made to hinder Deed, Home Secretary. 429 00:30:14,218 --> 00:30:16,697 For once, Percy, I'd like to stop him legally. 430 00:30:16,698 --> 00:30:19,632 That would really take him down a peg or two. 431 00:30:21,578 --> 00:30:24,092 Judge... 432 00:30:25,498 --> 00:30:30,333 ...the court manager says there's no court available. 433 00:30:30,378 --> 00:30:33,848 I do know that 5 and 27 are free. 434 00:30:33,898 --> 00:30:36,537 - OK, grab one of those. - When are you sitting? 435 00:30:36,538 --> 00:30:38,377 As soon as I can find anotherjudge. 436 00:30:38,378 --> 00:30:40,245 I'll warn the other parties. 437 00:30:43,378 --> 00:30:45,097 Is the judge in, Mrs Cooper? 438 00:30:45,098 --> 00:30:48,937 Ah, come in, Stephen. Did you get a result on those fingerprints? 439 00:30:48,938 --> 00:30:52,097 Well, I did get a response. I can't have the information. 440 00:30:52,098 --> 00:30:54,297 - What's that mean? - I don't have enough authority. 441 00:30:54,298 --> 00:30:56,217 Are there fingerprints on record? 442 00:30:56,218 --> 00:30:58,097 There are, but I can't find out whose. 443 00:30:58,098 --> 00:31:01,217 They could belong to a special informant, Judge, 444 00:31:01,218 --> 00:31:03,137 or a member of the security services. 445 00:31:03,138 --> 00:31:04,207 Ah. 446 00:31:04,258 --> 00:31:07,534 Who would have the authority to tell me? 447 00:31:07,578 --> 00:31:08,912 I don't know, Judge. 448 00:31:08,938 --> 00:31:11,611 Perhaps my boss, Superintendent Gaghan. 449 00:31:11,658 --> 00:31:13,091 OK. Bring him here. 450 00:31:13,138 --> 00:31:15,174 Her. She's a her. 451 00:31:22,178 --> 00:31:23,657 The court, Coop. 452 00:31:29,938 --> 00:31:32,897 We wouldn't presume to withhold information from you. 453 00:31:32,898 --> 00:31:34,937 Whose prints were on the cigarettes? 454 00:31:34,938 --> 00:31:37,817 The unidentified prints, we assumed were yours. 455 00:31:37,818 --> 00:31:39,137 The smudged prints, we couldn't identify. 456 00:31:39,138 --> 00:31:40,897 Then whose record was denied to PC Ashurst? 457 00:31:40,898 --> 00:31:43,257 They didn't relate to those on the cigarette packet, sir. 458 00:31:43,258 --> 00:31:45,817 How do you know if you didn't identify them? 459 00:31:45,818 --> 00:31:47,774 It was a mistake, Sir John. 460 00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:51,817 Do you know what the penalties are for lying to a High Court judge? 461 00:31:51,818 --> 00:31:54,252 No-one's lying to you, sir. 462 00:31:54,298 --> 00:31:56,497 I asked if you knew what the penalties were. 463 00:31:56,498 --> 00:31:57,498 Yes, sir. 464 00:31:57,538 --> 00:32:01,217 If I find out that I'm being deceived, that person will go to prison. 465 00:32:01,218 --> 00:32:04,537 And I don't care if it's the Commissioner of Police himself. 466 00:32:04,538 --> 00:32:06,737 - Do I make myself clear? - Yes, Sir John. 467 00:32:06,738 --> 00:32:11,209 Yes. Good. Well, I want that cigarette packet returned to my office. 468 00:32:21,098 --> 00:32:23,432 He wants the cigarette packet back. 469 00:32:57,658 --> 00:32:59,888 You didn't go up in the world. 470 00:32:59,938 --> 00:33:02,498 The quality of my client has gone up. 471 00:33:04,178 --> 00:33:05,452 How so? 472 00:33:05,498 --> 00:33:08,965 All a lot more deserving than rapists and embezzlers. 473 00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,777 You gave up the chance of being a judge for this? 474 00:33:13,778 --> 00:33:16,292 - Yeah, I've no regrets. - Good. 475 00:33:17,858 --> 00:33:19,857 We're planning on moving out of here. 476 00:33:19,858 --> 00:33:21,814 Where to? A sub-basement? 477 00:33:21,858 --> 00:33:24,417 We're going to make our chambers virtual. 478 00:33:24,418 --> 00:33:26,817 That way we can spend more money on the client. 479 00:33:26,818 --> 00:33:28,417 Where are you going to meet them, in the public library? 480 00:33:28,418 --> 00:33:31,330 Most of my clients tend to be in custody. 481 00:33:31,378 --> 00:33:32,417 Lizzy Meam isn't. 482 00:33:32,418 --> 00:33:36,217 If you win that one, you'll have legions beating a path to your door. 483 00:33:36,218 --> 00:33:37,857 No point being virtual then. 484 00:33:37,858 --> 00:33:39,897 Yeah. Let's get to the court first. 485 00:33:39,898 --> 00:33:44,737 Have you got a very good expert witness? Because you're going to need one. 486 00:33:44,738 --> 00:33:46,456 Dr Peter Hiaasen. 487 00:33:46,498 --> 00:33:48,977 He's a leading gastroenterologist in Miami. 488 00:33:48,978 --> 00:33:52,017 I thought these soldiers'problems were neurological. 489 00:33:52,018 --> 00:33:54,657 His thesis is that the problems start in the stomach. 490 00:33:54,658 --> 00:33:59,778 - Can you afford to bring him over? - He's here already doing research. 491 00:33:59,818 --> 00:34:03,128 Is there a possibility that you might be followed? 492 00:34:03,178 --> 00:34:06,568 - What, stalked? - I'm serious. 493 00:34:06,618 --> 00:34:08,097 Why, what's happened? 494 00:34:10,418 --> 00:34:13,977 I want to move quickly. Can you put your people on notice? 495 00:34:13,978 --> 00:34:15,778 Coop's already notified us. 496 00:34:17,978 --> 00:34:20,497 John, we really do ave to keep our distance. 497 00:34:20,498 --> 00:34:22,329 It's a bit late for that! 498 00:34:22,378 --> 00:34:25,112 Yeah. I'm on my way to meet Charlie. 499 00:34:28,418 --> 00:34:29,851 I miss Jo. 500 00:34:29,898 --> 00:34:32,537 Everything in chambers seems somehow different now. 501 00:34:32,538 --> 00:34:34,017 How? 502 00:34:34,058 --> 00:34:36,937 I don't know. Everything's about the bottom line. 503 00:34:36,938 --> 00:34:40,097 - You're not going to join her? - I don't have any work. 504 00:34:40,098 --> 00:34:41,937 Why? You're a good advocate. 505 00:34:41,938 --> 00:34:44,057 There are a lot of good advocates, Dad. 506 00:34:44,058 --> 00:34:45,777 In case you hadn't noticed, 507 00:34:45,778 --> 00:34:49,217 the Legal Services Commission are cutting back on criminal defence. 508 00:34:49,218 --> 00:34:52,257 The Government doesn't value an independent bar. 509 00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:56,809 They want a public defender system run along the lines of the CPS. 510 00:34:56,858 --> 00:34:58,576 I might have to sign up. 511 00:35:00,138 --> 00:35:02,377 Are you going to do this work for me? 512 00:35:02,378 --> 00:35:05,857 A medical researcher would do the job faster and better. 513 00:35:05,858 --> 00:35:08,977 Your legal mind will appreciate what's admissible. 514 00:35:08,978 --> 00:35:12,175 - How urgent is it? - All I need is a court. 515 00:35:12,218 --> 00:35:14,417 Well, you'd better feed me first. 516 00:35:14,418 --> 00:35:16,737 Why else would I come all this way? 517 00:35:16,738 --> 00:35:18,217 I'm hungry. 518 00:35:26,978 --> 00:35:30,288 Hmm, hmm, yep, yep. 519 00:35:30,338 --> 00:35:32,806 Yes, you can leave that with me. 520 00:35:32,858 --> 00:35:35,213 Thank you. Bye. 521 00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,497 You were a lot more polite in Sussex, Mr Harrison. 522 00:35:38,498 --> 00:35:40,165 I do apologise, Sir John. 523 00:35:40,178 --> 00:35:41,817 This court can't be used, sir. 524 00:35:41,818 --> 00:35:44,577 - Where was the asbestos found? - In the roof, Sir John. 525 00:35:44,578 --> 00:35:46,011 When was it found? 526 00:35:46,058 --> 00:35:48,057 Quite recently. When a leak was being repaired. 527 00:35:48,058 --> 00:35:50,017 It's been there for God knows how long. 528 00:35:50,018 --> 00:35:51,857 Another day won't make any difference. 529 00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:55,017 I'm afraid health and safety won't permit that, Sir John. 530 00:35:55,018 --> 00:35:56,737 We'll use Court Number Five, Coop. 531 00:35:56,738 --> 00:35:58,657 - Yes, Judge. - Not free, Sir John. 532 00:35:58,658 --> 00:36:01,570 Mr Justice Niven is hearing an appeal there. 533 00:36:01,618 --> 00:36:04,218 - Since when? - It started this morning. 534 00:36:05,578 --> 00:36:07,694 Find me another court. 535 00:36:11,738 --> 00:36:15,731 Is this what you did for promotion, Brian? What's going on? 536 00:36:15,778 --> 00:36:17,848 Nothing, Rita. 537 00:36:17,898 --> 00:36:23,018 Rita, could you get him to hear the internet copyright case? 538 00:36:26,058 --> 00:36:30,057 Judge, there is a court free for the internet copyright case. 539 00:36:30,058 --> 00:36:31,817 Now, you could take that case... 540 00:36:31,818 --> 00:36:33,777 Two or more years of hell? o, thank you. 541 00:36:33,778 --> 00:36:38,017 Yes, but you could open, order an adjournment for a technical reason, 542 00:36:38,018 --> 00:36:40,691 and have the funding review on standby. 543 00:36:40,738 --> 00:36:43,257 And afterwards, I'd still have the mind-numbing internet case. 544 00:36:43,258 --> 00:36:45,057 I'm sure you could get out of it, Judge. 545 00:36:45,058 --> 00:36:47,572 - Thanks, Coop. - Thank Mr Harrison. 546 00:37:29,338 --> 00:37:31,249 Yes, Dr Mary Moon, please. 547 00:37:31,298 --> 00:37:33,337 Do you have an address? 548 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:38,366 Try Chiddingley, East Sussex. Sorry, I don't have a street. 549 00:37:38,418 --> 00:37:42,536 Sorry, the only one listed is ex-directory. 550 00:37:42,578 --> 00:37:44,534 OK. Thanks. 551 00:37:49,538 --> 00:37:54,658 Charlie. 552 00:37:54,698 --> 00:37:56,734 Oh, Dad. 553 00:37:56,778 --> 00:38:00,457 Well, you could at least try and sound a little less disappointed. 554 00:38:00,458 --> 00:38:02,417 I thought it was Tom Cruise returning my call. 555 00:38:02,418 --> 00:38:03,851 Tom who? 556 00:38:03,898 --> 00:38:07,527 - Dad, he's a Hollywood movie star. - Charlie! 557 00:38:07,578 --> 00:38:11,417 I'm on all these support sites for soldiers damaged by vaccinations. 558 00:38:11,418 --> 00:38:12,897 It's really interesting stuff. 559 00:38:12,898 --> 00:38:15,935 Yeah. I read some of them. A bit loony. 560 00:38:15,978 --> 00:38:19,334 - Do you know who Dr Mary Moon is? - Should I? 561 00:38:19,378 --> 00:38:22,337 She and Dr Rupert Dayvis caused a big scandal last year 562 00:38:22,338 --> 00:38:26,097 when they went on record saying the cocktail of drugs soldiers are given 563 00:38:26,098 --> 00:38:29,017 is causing all their mental and emotional problems. 564 00:38:29,018 --> 00:38:33,577 Dr Dayvis killed himself by tying a rope around a tree and then his neck 565 00:38:33,578 --> 00:38:35,177 and then driving away in his car. 566 00:38:35,178 --> 00:38:39,777 Oh, yes. Didn't she accuse the pharmaceutical companies of killing him? 567 00:38:39,778 --> 00:38:42,297 Along with all the others with vested interests. 568 00:38:42,298 --> 00:38:46,737 The internet sites insist that he was killed because of what they discovered. 569 00:38:46,738 --> 00:38:49,697 - So why wasn't Dr Moon killed as well? - Don't know. 570 00:38:49,698 --> 00:38:51,457 I'll ask her if I can locate her. 571 00:38:51,458 --> 00:38:54,217 Could I get her details through the court people? 572 00:38:54,218 --> 00:38:57,137 Well, you could ask Coop to try, but don't tell me about it. 573 00:38:57,138 --> 00:39:00,733 Charlie, be careful around this, won't you? 574 00:39:00,778 --> 00:39:02,052 Dad? 575 00:39:02,098 --> 00:39:05,937 Well, there's a lot at stake for those companies. The government as well. 576 00:39:05,938 --> 00:39:07,817 Isn't that being a bit paranoid? 577 00:39:07,818 --> 00:39:10,337 Is that why I can't find anotherjudge to sit with me? 578 00:39:10,338 --> 00:39:12,249 Have you asked Grandad? 579 00:39:12,298 --> 00:39:14,417 I don't think that's very likely. 580 00:39:14,418 --> 00:39:18,177 Hey. In the words of the song, "The man in the gabardine mac is a spy." 581 00:39:18,178 --> 00:39:20,977 I don't get paid to listen to that. That is off! 582 00:39:20,978 --> 00:39:24,645 It's the man in the gabardine suit that's the spy. 583 00:39:32,058 --> 00:39:37,690 Here we are. The summons office got her details from the police. 584 00:39:37,738 --> 00:39:41,097 I'll remember that when I'm trying to locate a witness. 585 00:39:41,098 --> 00:39:45,177 Charlie, if your dad ever gets anotherjudge to hear this with him, 586 00:39:45,178 --> 00:39:47,312 you didn't get that from me, OK? 587 00:39:48,458 --> 00:39:52,657 With a bit more notice, my darling, I would have offered you coffee. 588 00:39:52,658 --> 00:39:55,297 But you see, I'm sitting. 589 00:39:55,338 --> 00:39:58,171 Why can't you help Dad with this case? 590 00:39:58,218 --> 00:40:00,095 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 591 00:40:00,138 --> 00:40:06,407 I've known Michael Niven for a very long time. 592 00:40:06,458 --> 00:40:09,052 He's a decent fellow. 593 00:40:09,098 --> 00:40:13,257 But what if he's an unsuitable judge for reasons of apparent bias? 594 00:40:13,258 --> 00:40:16,614 Like in Taylor and Laurence, 2003? 595 00:40:19,258 --> 00:40:21,852 That's rather good, clever girl. 596 00:40:21,898 --> 00:40:23,456 Yes. 597 00:40:59,178 --> 00:41:00,978 Lizzy, is this a good idea? 598 00:41:16,618 --> 00:41:18,097 All rise. 599 00:41:30,738 --> 00:41:33,377 This threatens to be a very long-running case. 600 00:41:33,378 --> 00:41:37,737 Mr McCartney is a litigant in person and may not be familiar with procedure. 601 00:41:37,738 --> 00:41:40,657 I have done a lot of research on the internet, my lord. 602 00:41:40,658 --> 00:41:43,125 Yes. I'm sure you have, Mr McCartney. 603 00:41:43,138 --> 00:41:49,407 There are 87,000 pages on the internet relating to this case. 604 00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:51,528 Now, I've calculated... 605 00:41:51,578 --> 00:41:55,017 that if I read a page a minute for eight hours a day, every day, 606 00:41:55,018 --> 00:41:57,486 I'd still need over half a year. 607 00:41:57,538 --> 00:41:59,130 That isn't to say 608 00:41:59,178 --> 00:42:04,411 that we won't deal diligently with the realities of this case. 609 00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:09,134 Ideas that Mr McCartney posted on the internet were purportedly 610 00:42:09,178 --> 00:42:14,298 exploited for commercial gain by Internet Raiders Incorporated. 611 00:42:14,338 --> 00:42:16,408 So, two questions arise. 612 00:42:16,458 --> 00:42:22,135 Did Mr McCartney's ideas constitute something that could be legally owned 613 00:42:22,178 --> 00:42:24,772 and with copyright vested in him? 614 00:42:24,818 --> 00:42:28,094 And, if so, did Internet Raiders Incorporated 615 00:42:28,138 --> 00:42:32,370 wrongly appropriate those ideas for commercial gain? 616 00:42:32,418 --> 00:42:38,050 - They did, sir. - That's what we're here to discover. 617 00:42:38,098 --> 00:42:39,326 Mr Norwalk? 618 00:42:39,378 --> 00:42:44,247 Might I enquire about the application we made under rule 34.13 619 00:42:44,298 --> 00:42:48,817 for the court to issue a letter of request for an absent witness deposition? 620 00:42:48,818 --> 00:42:52,970 The request was made to the Supreme Court in Buenos Aires. 621 00:42:53,018 --> 00:42:56,817 Our witness, Mr Kray, is critical to the structure of our case. 622 00:42:56,818 --> 00:43:01,897 The court in Argentina has not managed to track your intended deponent, Mr Norwalk. 623 00:43:01,898 --> 00:43:04,048 Ah. 624 00:43:04,098 --> 00:43:07,657 Mr McCartney, do you intend to make an opening address to the court? 625 00:43:07,658 --> 00:43:10,491 I believe that's allowed, sir. 626 00:43:10,538 --> 00:43:13,848 Yes, it is. I would just ask you to keep it short. 627 00:43:53,578 --> 00:43:55,534 Dr Moon? 628 00:43:55,578 --> 00:43:59,412 - Do I know you? - No. Well, I'm doing some research. 629 00:43:59,458 --> 00:44:02,217 - Mr Justice Deed is hearing a case... - I can't help you. I'm sorry. 630 00:44:02,218 --> 00:44:04,377 You and Dr Dayvis discovered a connection 631 00:44:04,378 --> 00:44:07,417 between the drugs and neurological damage to the soldiers. 632 00:44:07,418 --> 00:44:11,497 There is no proof the drugs damaged them. You shouldn't be looking at this. 633 00:44:11,498 --> 00:44:13,614 That wasn't Dr Dayvis's view. 634 00:44:13,658 --> 00:44:16,658 - What is it you want? - Access to his papers. 635 00:44:17,898 --> 00:44:19,809 I can't talk. Go away. 636 00:44:19,858 --> 00:44:22,737 Well, if you change your mind, ere's my number. 637 00:44:22,738 --> 00:44:26,737 The judge's number is on the back. He will take this to court. 638 00:44:26,738 --> 00:44:29,047 He is wasting his time. 639 00:44:29,098 --> 00:44:31,417 Are you saying someone's threatened her? 640 00:44:31,418 --> 00:44:34,617 Their discovery did cause a lot of fuss in medical circles. 641 00:44:34,618 --> 00:44:37,777 If they're right, the soldiers' cases would be watertight. 642 00:44:37,778 --> 00:44:40,975 The internet sites claim Dr Dayvis held the key. 643 00:44:41,018 --> 00:44:46,251 He and Dr Moon identified the specific damage as neural deficit. 644 00:44:46,298 --> 00:44:51,418 Some sites scrupulously tracked the rise in neural deficit 645 00:44:51,458 --> 00:44:55,297 and bowel disorders in soldiers following their revelations. 646 00:44:55,298 --> 00:44:57,129 What is neural deficit? 647 00:44:57,178 --> 00:45:02,127 Well, it's the... It's the permanent breaks in neural pathways. 648 00:45:02,178 --> 00:45:04,937 They carry information to all parts of the body. 649 00:45:04,938 --> 00:45:08,737 Any interruption stops proper functioning of all organisms. 650 00:45:08,738 --> 00:45:13,368 What's not known is why some parts are affected and others not. 651 00:45:13,418 --> 00:45:17,855 Inflammation of spinal nerve cells causes terrible pain. 652 00:45:17,898 --> 00:45:20,232 Sufferers scream, bang their heads. 653 00:45:20,258 --> 00:45:23,295 On their best days, they're just depressed. 654 00:45:23,338 --> 00:45:26,697 Other vaccinated soldiers ave killed themselves too, Dad. 655 00:45:26,698 --> 00:45:29,897 And is there a background prevalence to these health problems? 656 00:45:29,898 --> 00:45:31,457 There's bound to be, 657 00:45:31,458 --> 00:45:34,537 but nothing's shown up prior to the soldiers getting the vaccinations, 658 00:45:34,538 --> 00:45:37,848 which were arguably experimental. Why is that? 659 00:45:37,898 --> 00:45:41,057 You're thinking like counsel for the claimant, Charlie. 660 00:45:41,058 --> 00:45:44,977 Look, Dad, you don't need to show that these drugs are causing the problem, 661 00:45:44,978 --> 00:45:47,657 just that there is a significant possibility. 662 00:45:47,658 --> 00:45:52,217 Well, I'm supposed to be concerned with the procedure in the Niven hearing. 663 00:45:52,218 --> 00:45:57,417 The merits and whether Dr Moon is too scared to help should be for another day. 664 00:45:57,418 --> 00:46:01,934 Dad, the merits were strong until Caversham got at all the experts. 665 00:46:01,978 --> 00:46:05,057 If you're looking for bias, how bent is all this? 666 00:46:05,058 --> 00:46:09,131 And they would say "irrational conspiracy theory". 667 00:46:09,178 --> 00:46:11,294 No, you keep looking, Charlie. 668 00:46:11,338 --> 00:46:14,774 The idea behind the World Wide Web, 669 00:46:14,818 --> 00:46:18,697 perhaps the most consequential known to mankind, 670 00:46:18,738 --> 00:46:22,208 was the instant dissemination of information 671 00:46:22,258 --> 00:46:27,093 in order to help free people of all colours and creeds, 672 00:46:27,138 --> 00:46:29,971 not the theft of ideas. 673 00:46:30,018 --> 00:46:32,293 Quite the opposite, in fact. 674 00:46:32,338 --> 00:46:36,047 Ideas are currency in this technology, 675 00:46:36,098 --> 00:46:40,774 and the fact that they can go around the world and back in an instant 676 00:46:40,818 --> 00:46:43,491 makes them more liable to theft. 677 00:46:46,538 --> 00:46:47,732 Excuse me. 678 00:46:47,778 --> 00:46:55,207 Did Dr Alexander Graham Bell have the idea for the phone first, or Marconi? 679 00:46:55,258 --> 00:47:00,651 It's unlikely that they both had the same idea at exactly the same time. 680 00:47:00,698 --> 00:47:04,532 Things simply moved more slowly in those days 681 00:47:04,578 --> 00:47:10,733 and it only looked like they had the idea at the exact same time. 682 00:47:10,778 --> 00:47:15,137 Now, the expressed intention of the inventor of the World Wide Web, 683 00:47:15,138 --> 00:47:20,610 Sir Tim Berners-Lee, was to free up ideas and people. 684 00:47:20,658 --> 00:47:24,367 He applied for no royalties or patents. 685 00:47:24,418 --> 00:47:28,206 Let me take you back to 1969 in America... 686 00:47:28,258 --> 00:47:31,967 Mr McCartney, is it your intention to set the record 687 00:47:32,018 --> 00:47:35,169 for the longest opening in a civil action? 688 00:47:35,218 --> 00:47:38,369 The record so far is 119 days. 689 00:47:39,378 --> 00:47:43,817 I'm just trying to set out the facts and context as clearly as I can. 690 00:47:43,818 --> 00:47:46,207 Yes, well, sometimes less is more. 691 00:47:46,258 --> 00:47:49,392 If we'd had a jury, you'd have lost them by now. 692 00:47:49,698 --> 00:47:51,177 Do you want me to stop? 693 00:47:51,178 --> 00:47:54,488 Not if you think I don't have the point. 694 00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:58,326 Now, what I'm going to do is adjourn now. 695 00:47:58,378 --> 00:48:03,930 Think overnight about how much more you want me to know. 696 00:48:03,978 --> 00:48:05,457 All rise. 697 00:48:18,818 --> 00:48:21,577 Coop tells me you've got a problem with your client. 698 00:48:21,578 --> 00:48:23,897 - Yeah, she's cracking up. - Is she ready to go? 699 00:48:23,898 --> 00:48:26,651 Well, if you've got anotherjudge. 700 00:48:26,698 --> 00:48:28,575 We'll get there. 701 00:48:28,618 --> 00:48:31,655 John, is this going to happen? 702 00:48:31,698 --> 00:48:35,257 Coop, warn the other parties in the Funding Review to stand by. 703 00:48:35,258 --> 00:48:37,577 Will I tell the Internet Raiders to stand down? 704 00:48:37,578 --> 00:48:40,978 If we do, we'll alert the world and his uncle. 705 00:49:44,658 --> 00:49:47,297 Charlie ought to move from this ghastly area. 706 00:49:47,298 --> 00:49:49,417 There's nothing wrong with the area, George. 707 00:49:49,418 --> 00:49:51,215 Then why was she attacked? 708 00:49:56,618 --> 00:49:59,530 Oh, Charlie! 709 00:49:59,578 --> 00:50:01,489 What happened? 710 00:50:01,538 --> 00:50:02,857 Were you hurt, darling? 711 00:50:02,858 --> 00:50:06,697 I don't know what's more shocking, this or seeing my parents together. 712 00:50:06,698 --> 00:50:08,777 It looks like an opportunistic burglary. 713 00:50:08,778 --> 00:50:11,137 Looks like someone's got a grudge against my daughter. 714 00:50:11,138 --> 00:50:14,177 It was probably Tom Cruise, because I stood him up. 715 00:50:14,178 --> 00:50:16,777 - Is that a boyfriend, miss? - I think it was a joke. 716 00:50:16,778 --> 00:50:18,769 I certainly hope so. 717 00:50:18,818 --> 00:50:21,048 Oh, yeah, Tom Cruise. 718 00:50:21,098 --> 00:50:26,331 - Did they get anything? - Hard to say. Not my TV or my iPod. 719 00:50:26,378 --> 00:50:27,737 They must have missed them. 720 00:50:27,738 --> 00:50:31,333 They took my laptop with all the research. 721 00:50:31,378 --> 00:50:33,977 - Did you see them, Chas? - Only a blur, I'm afraid. 722 00:50:33,978 --> 00:50:36,970 It's probably as well, darling. 723 00:50:37,018 --> 00:50:39,457 Well, you can't stay here. Come home with me. 724 00:50:39,458 --> 00:50:42,977 Yeah, the Home Secretary can provide round-the-clock protection. 725 00:50:42,978 --> 00:50:45,057 - His name is Neil. - Yeah, I know his name. 726 00:50:45,058 --> 00:50:48,377 Would you be able to come to the station some time and sign a statement, Charlie? 727 00:50:48,378 --> 00:50:51,497 No, no, no. Get the CID onto this. Check for fingerprints. 728 00:50:51,498 --> 00:50:53,170 It's just a burglary. 729 00:50:55,058 --> 00:50:57,253 Yes, Sir John. Of course. 730 00:50:57,298 --> 00:51:00,097 Why don't you call Supt Gaghan at Scotland Yard? 731 00:51:00,098 --> 00:51:02,165 I'm sure she's bound to help(!) 732 00:51:05,178 --> 00:51:07,134 Who's Supt Gaghan, Dad? 733 00:51:07,178 --> 00:51:09,657 Someone who's as useless as the Home Secretary. 734 00:51:09,658 --> 00:51:11,577 - Don't listen to him. - Any comment? 735 00:51:11,578 --> 00:51:15,337 - It's a minor break-in. - Is law and order getting out of control? 736 00:51:15,338 --> 00:51:17,217 If that's the line you're running. 737 00:51:17,218 --> 00:51:19,737 There have been more drug-related robberies. 738 00:51:19,738 --> 00:51:21,497 Best talk to the Home Secretary about that. 739 00:51:21,498 --> 00:51:23,697 - What's going on, Dad? - I don't know, Chas. 740 00:51:23,698 --> 00:51:25,697 Are Caversham coming after us? 741 00:51:25,698 --> 00:51:27,537 They're the ones with the most to lose. 742 00:51:27,538 --> 00:51:28,977 It could have been anyone. 743 00:51:28,978 --> 00:51:33,057 There were two of them. They didn't take er iPod, or even her money. 744 00:51:33,058 --> 00:51:34,337 They could've missed them. 745 00:51:34,338 --> 00:51:36,454 Burglars don't miss a sixpence. 746 00:51:36,498 --> 00:51:38,136 What was in your laptop? 747 00:51:38,178 --> 00:51:39,896 The usual stuff. 748 00:51:39,938 --> 00:51:41,538 Notes on neural deficit, 749 00:51:41,578 --> 00:51:45,177 the papers from the internet speculating about the cause. 750 00:51:45,178 --> 00:51:47,537 Nothing that can't be got with hours of research. 751 00:51:47,538 --> 00:51:49,335 What about your bag? 752 00:51:49,378 --> 00:51:52,912 There's no startling new evidence. It's all available. 753 00:51:52,938 --> 00:51:56,497 - Cumulatively, it amounts to what? - Well, that depends. 754 00:51:56,498 --> 00:51:59,537 How long the government and pharmaceutical companies 755 00:51:59,538 --> 00:52:04,017 keep on saying the rise in neural deficit in these soldiers is coincidental. 756 00:52:04,018 --> 00:52:06,137 Neil says it's due to better reporting by GPs. 757 00:52:06,138 --> 00:52:08,017 He speaks on health as well now? 758 00:52:08,018 --> 00:52:11,297 The families of those damaged soldiers aren't buying that, Mum. 759 00:52:11,298 --> 00:52:13,448 Time you got a properjob, Chas. 760 00:52:13,498 --> 00:52:15,853 I'll borrow a laptop. 761 00:52:15,898 --> 00:52:18,165 I'll do the work in half the time. 762 00:52:22,258 --> 00:52:26,217 Information freely available on the internet 763 00:52:26,258 --> 00:52:31,173 is not information free to commercial enterprise. 764 00:52:31,218 --> 00:52:35,769 Internet Raiders stole not one of my published ideas, but 27. 765 00:52:35,818 --> 00:52:40,334 Three of these ideas, including my online data recovery software, 766 00:52:40,378 --> 00:52:46,055 have made them a great deal of money - over 200 million. 767 00:52:46,098 --> 00:52:51,809 With a modest 10$% royalty, they would owe me 20 million. 768 00:52:51,858 --> 00:52:54,577 I do intend to recover what is rightfully mine, 769 00:52:54,578 --> 00:52:59,777 and to this end, I will be calling 127 witnesses... 770 00:52:59,818 --> 00:53:01,497 Yes, I saw your list, Mr McCartney. 771 00:53:01,498 --> 00:53:05,730 It presages an even longer event than the McLibel trial. 772 00:53:05,778 --> 00:53:10,645 The legal costs alone to the claimants in that case were over? 10,000,000. 773 00:53:10,658 --> 00:53:14,017 Internet Raiders Incorporated must be quaking at the prospect. 774 00:53:14,018 --> 00:53:17,010 Internet Raiders are a cash-rich company 775 00:53:17,058 --> 00:53:20,892 which is being financially prejudiced by this action. 776 00:53:20,938 --> 00:53:25,011 We would like to either see this spurious claim struck out 777 00:53:25,058 --> 00:53:30,815 or at least set a reasonable time-frame of, say, one week? 778 00:53:30,858 --> 00:53:32,416 I doubt if Mr McCartney 779 00:53:32,458 --> 00:53:35,617 could read the qualifications of his witnesses in that time. 780 00:53:35,618 --> 00:53:38,017 Well, then we respectfully request your lordship 781 00:53:38,018 --> 00:53:42,330 utilises provision of the Civil Procedure, Rule 35.1, 782 00:53:42,378 --> 00:53:46,337 and limits experts to... one per side. 783 00:53:46,378 --> 00:53:51,293 Mr McCartney has listed in detail what ground his experts will cover. 784 00:53:51,338 --> 00:53:53,657 No, what I am going to do now is adjourn 785 00:53:53,658 --> 00:53:56,137 so that each of the parties can speak to the other. 786 00:53:56,138 --> 00:53:59,097 Who knows, you might even reach a settlement. Talk. 787 00:53:59,098 --> 00:54:00,937 I don't mind if it takes a week. 788 00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:02,530 All rise. 789 00:54:09,578 --> 00:54:12,172 I feel like I've escaped prison. 790 00:54:12,218 --> 00:54:14,857 Mr McCartney wants is day in court, Judge. 791 00:54:14,858 --> 00:54:17,133 He's had four already! 792 00:54:17,178 --> 00:54:20,090 Sir Monty Everard sends his regrets. 793 00:54:20,138 --> 00:54:22,891 He's another who can't sit with you. 794 00:54:22,938 --> 00:54:26,248 Then I'll formally open proceedings on my own. 795 00:54:26,298 --> 00:54:27,936 Warn the other parties. 796 00:54:27,978 --> 00:54:30,045 Do you think you should, Judge? 797 00:54:33,578 --> 00:54:36,251 I'm not sure we can stop Deed. 798 00:54:36,298 --> 00:54:38,697 It's not lawful, him sitting alone, is it? 799 00:54:38,698 --> 00:54:39,926 Probably not. 800 00:54:39,978 --> 00:54:42,697 Then if he does, it'll be struck down. 801 00:54:42,738 --> 00:54:45,650 Nothing encourages me to think I'd win. 802 00:54:45,698 --> 00:54:49,032 I don't want to spend a night in jail for contempt. 803 00:54:52,578 --> 00:54:56,457 Is it contempt if more asbestos were found? 804 00:54:58,178 --> 00:55:01,697 - More asbestos? - That's what Brian Harrison told me. 805 00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:04,007 I want to see for myself. 806 00:55:10,258 --> 00:55:13,697 This court was perfectly usable two hours ago, Mr Harrison. 807 00:55:13,698 --> 00:55:15,654 I know, Sir John. Asbestos. 808 00:55:15,698 --> 00:55:17,497 - Show it to me. - I daren't, Sir John. 809 00:55:17,498 --> 00:55:20,177 Like some wild dangerous beast, is it, ready to spring out? 810 00:55:20,178 --> 00:55:21,178 Sir John? 811 00:55:21,218 --> 00:55:22,817 If there was so much asbestos, 812 00:55:22,818 --> 00:55:25,777 half their lordships would be down with mesothelioma. 813 00:55:25,778 --> 00:55:27,537 I can't breach ealth and safety regulations. 814 00:55:27,538 --> 00:55:30,457 Find me an alternative court or we'll hear it in the corridor. 815 00:55:30,458 --> 00:55:31,937 There isn't a court! 816 00:55:31,978 --> 00:55:35,578 You've got 30 minutes or we'll hear it in the corridor. 817 00:55:37,138 --> 00:55:39,897 You ought to be ashamed of yourself, Brian. 818 00:55:39,898 --> 00:55:41,937 I'm only following orders, Rita. 819 00:55:41,938 --> 00:55:44,452 That's even more shameful. 820 00:55:45,538 --> 00:55:49,577 My lord, I urge you not to hear this case in the corridor. 821 00:55:49,618 --> 00:55:54,177 The court is anywhere a High Court judge decides to preside over a lawful trial. 822 00:55:54,178 --> 00:55:57,257 Ajudge sitting alone in the Divisional Court of the High Court 823 00:55:57,258 --> 00:55:59,567 is not lawful, my lord. 824 00:55:59,618 --> 00:56:02,937 Yes, I am aware of Section 66 of the Supreme Court Act, Ian. 825 00:56:02,938 --> 00:56:06,977 My lord, if you were to ear this case in the corridor, 826 00:56:07,018 --> 00:56:11,285 it would look like transitional justice in an emerging democracy. 827 00:56:16,138 --> 00:56:17,935 Yes. You're right. 828 00:56:17,978 --> 00:56:20,208 It should be heard in a court. 829 00:56:24,258 --> 00:56:26,697 And then this point is further developed 830 00:56:26,698 --> 00:56:31,032 in the respondent's skeleton argument, my lord, at paragraph nine. 831 00:56:33,378 --> 00:56:36,377 Your lordship will see that the case cited there 832 00:56:36,378 --> 00:56:38,737 is Charles and the Queen, the Privy Council... 833 00:56:38,738 --> 00:56:43,057 Sir Joseph, Mr Justice Deed would like to see you in his chambers urgently. 834 00:56:43,058 --> 00:56:48,690 Yes, well, this is, uh... this is all very interesting, 835 00:56:48,738 --> 00:56:53,687 but I'll need to study these papers in detail. 836 00:56:53,738 --> 00:56:55,217 All rise. 837 00:56:57,338 --> 00:57:00,297 Does this case have anything to do with Charlie's mugging? 838 00:57:00,298 --> 00:57:02,016 Yes, I believe so. 839 00:57:02,058 --> 00:57:04,413 Why isn't Haughton doing something? 840 00:57:04,458 --> 00:57:09,525 The Home Secretary's too busy protecting the interests of the drug companies. 841 00:57:11,818 --> 00:57:16,494 Joe, will you sit with me? 842 00:57:18,858 --> 00:57:22,977 You can use my court, but I don't think I can have anything to do with it. 843 00:57:22,978 --> 00:57:26,857 You cannot lawfully sit on your own. 844 00:57:26,898 --> 00:57:30,777 It undermines the rule of law and brings the bench into disrepute. 845 00:57:30,778 --> 00:57:35,613 Regardless, I'm going to take a bold step forjustice and sit alone. 846 00:57:35,658 --> 00:57:39,537 If you won't join me, any ruling I make will be invalid 847 00:57:39,578 --> 00:57:41,808 and I shall have been defeated. 848 00:57:41,858 --> 00:57:44,895 - But then so too will justice. - John! 849 00:57:44,938 --> 00:57:47,327 John, don't be such a bloody fool! 70592

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