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- You've got a brother?
- Well, he's a twat.
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If my boss knew
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that my brother was a
convicted armed robber...
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- She's mad.
- Bonkers.
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- Is Gill coming?
- What, Godzilla?
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What?
Don't. Dom, don't do that.
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Look, it doesn't matter.
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I'm talking to your senior
partner and your ass is grass.
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Scott & Bailey
Season 2a - Episode 03
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ITFC Subtitle
Sync: Marocas62
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- Night.
- See you later.
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- Sorry, boss.
- Rachel! Give us a second, Sam.
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- Has Janet gone?
- Yeah.
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She had a GCSE meeting
at school with Elise.
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- Are you doing anything?
- Just dropping this lot
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of disclosure schedules off.
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You got anything on over
the next three or four days
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you can't wriggle out of?
Court appearances, anything?
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- No.
- You fancy a bit of overtime?
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- Yeah.
- Get that done,
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go home, pack a bag.
I'll pick you up in an hour.
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Yeah. Why, where we going?
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Cambridge. Ravenhill Prison.
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Then Bristol. North Avon!
It will all become clear.
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Sammy? Yep, so bins
out tomorrow night.
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Yes, I know you know that.
I'm telling you
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because you have to do and
because I'm not going to be there.
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Dom?
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Dom!
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Dom, I'm going away
for a couple of days...
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- Shit.
- Who the hell's that?
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I thought you said
no-one else'd be here.
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Fuck this.
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Are you going to introduce
me to your friend?
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- No, we... we were...
- I want my 20 quid back.
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Married. Are we?
I don't think so, pal.
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Can you remember where the
door is, or shall I show you?
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You're hurting me!
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I've got your registration
number, arsehole,
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so don't think I can't find out where
you live
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or every single thing there is
to know about you.
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Fetch.
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I don't even know
where to start, Dom.
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- Have you done this before? Here?
- No.
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No. Two things.
I'm a police officer
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and you've just used my flat
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to sell sex in.
Do you understand that you can't do that?
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And number two...
what are you doing?
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What you doing?
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- Do you want me to go?
- No, Dom!
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I want you to get your
life back together!
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I was at a hotel, asking
about kitchen jobs.
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I was. Honest.
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Right. OK. Look. I'm...
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I'm going away for a
couple of days. So I...
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Shit.
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I don't know what you
had to do, Dom, in prison,
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to get by but this
is the deal, right?
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That is in the past.
You're in my world now.
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If you're short for money then...
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then you talk to me.
Before you even dream
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about doing anything like
that ever again, right?
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Right. I'm going to be away,
so, God, I don't know...
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Can you promise me...
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Promise me...
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that you will try...
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to behave
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like you've got the
sense you were born with.
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Or I'll...
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I will ask you to leave, Dom.
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Because I'll be
left with no choice.
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I just wanted to pay you
back for your kitchen.
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Have you had a HIV test?
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Does the name Jeremy Leach
ring any bells?
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Jeremy Leach?
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He raped and strangled three women
in the West Country,
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and one in Reading. Ten years ago?
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13 years ago.
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Sexually assaulted six women,
probably twice that many.
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All across the south.
But yeah,
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the court convicted him on the four
he raped and strangled.
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- So what are we...
- We're going to visit him.
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Those are for you.
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Leach?
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Wasn't he a total control freak?
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Control freak,
psychopath, narcissist.
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It's all in there. When he
was caught, how he was caught,
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psychological reports.
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So why are we visiting him?
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Three weeks ago, just outside
Bristol a woman turned up dead.
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Yasmin Heaney.
She'd been raped and strangled.
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Whoever did it used an MO almost
identical to Jeremy Leach's.
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The details of which, for obvious
reasons,
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were never released to the press.
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For instance...
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he used cable ties to fasten
his victim's thumbs together.
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It's all in there, even
the victim profile fits.
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- White, 32-year-old professional.
- But it can't be him?
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It's unlikely. He's been tucked
up at Her Majesty's pleasure
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for the last thirteen years.
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He's not looking at parole till
2036, if ever.
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- So it's a copycat thing?
- Yeah.
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Didn't he get convicted
over a single thumb print?
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Not even that. It was
a partial thumb print.
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But enough to get his DNA.
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Did you catch him?
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It went across four
forces, including the Met,
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but yes, when I
worked for the NPIA.
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Crime Faculty, as was.
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We got invited in.
They were desperate,
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they had nothing.
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He was clever.
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Nowhere near as clever as
he thought he was, of course.
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- They never are.
- So why are...
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He says he has information about
Yasmin's death.
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Because I went in
from the Crime Faculty,
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Leach doesn't know I was involved
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in the original investigation.
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My name will mean nothing to him.
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But why do you need me?
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I squared it with the boss.
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Can you read in a car
without being sick?
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I'd make a start. We'll
hit the hotel by eleven,
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then we're seeing him at nine
o'clock sharp tomorrow morning.
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I still don't know why you need me.
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I'm a Chief Inspector.
I haven't done an interview in ten years!
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Don't worry, I'll be there.
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- Hiya.
- What's happening with our Dom?
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Nothing. Why? What is
happening with our Dom?
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He's saying you've chucked him out.
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- I didn't chuck him out.
- Hey,
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I'm not blaming you, Rachel.
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I haven't chucked him out.
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Right, well I can't put him up
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- cos Tony won't have it.
- Alison. I haven't chucked him out.
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We just had a bit of an argument,
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- Look, is he there now?
- No, he's gone.
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- Gone where?
- I don't know.
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I don't think he knew himself.
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Has he been behaving?
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He's not been drinking, or...
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No. No. Not at all. It's one of
the conditions of his license,
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not drinking,
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he's really stuck to that,
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it's just...
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What?
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Look, Alison, I'm away
for a couple of days.
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I think I've frightened him.
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I told him he needed to get himself
tested for HIV.
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Why?
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He's hang on, Sammy,
he's what? He's done what?
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The whore...
Let's get this straight,
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the whore has kicked
him, your dad, out?
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- Why?
- Because in prison.
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I think he might of...
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- like sold his assets.
- Oh, no way!
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He can't keep his pants up, can he?
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Right, well, there you go, eh?
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Taste of her own medicine. Bitch.
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Sold his...
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Can you work it out Alison?
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He's bringing an overnight
bag with him where?
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I will. I'll call him
but he's not homeless.
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No. No. No, Sammy.
That is not happening.
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He is not sleeping at our house.
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He's got a key to my
flat,
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- so he's not homeless.
- Yeah, I know he's your dad,
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but you tell him to ring me,
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I will deal with it,
because he is not...
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Yeah. I'll ring him.
I'll ring him now.
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No, Sammy, not even on
the settee. I'm serious.
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I am not being mean, Sammy.
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- Sammy?
- OK. Bye.
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- Dom? It's Rachel.
- Dave. Gill.
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- Look, our Alison's just rung me.
- You need to give me a ring.
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Don't worry about what I said.
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If you wouldn't mind
being so good and kind.
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Just get yourself
back round to my flat.
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At your earliest convenience.
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We can talk about this
properly when I get back.
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Right?
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We'll sort things out. I promise.
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And will you ring me?
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How come Leach even knows about
the similarities to his murders?
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A local journalist made the
connection. Yesterday.
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Who knows how, he's a journalist.
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First person he's on the
phone to is Leach's solicitor.
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That's when the shit hit the fan.
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North Avon are pulling together
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an SIO support group which
we'll be part of later tomorrow
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with some of the biggest
names in the country.
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SCAS, Detectives,
forensic scientists.
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At the risk of
sounding a bit thick,
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why's this such a big deal?
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Because if someone's out
there using Leach's exact MO,
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it throws doubt on his conviction.
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It suggests it was never
him in the first place,
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that the real killer is still out
there which we know to be rubbish,
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but... there's a lot of people
who think Leach's conviction
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is the biggest miscarriage of
justice in criminal history.
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Journalists, peers, the
tea and tiffin brigade.
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Sadly, however, they're
not without influence.
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If they can raise doubt and
grounds for yet another appeal,
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it's not beyond the
realms of possibility
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Leach could walk.
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So no pressure then.
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DCI Murray?
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- 'Ello 'ello.
- DC Bennett, North Avon.
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This is DC Bailey.
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- Rachel.
- Ed.
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- Mr. Leach?
- Yes, hello.
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I'm DC Bailey, this is DC Bennett.
We're here at your request.
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Before we start I must tell you
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that this meeting
is being recorded.
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Good.
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I must tell you that
you're not under arrest
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and you don't have
to say anything to us,
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but anything you do say
may be used in evidence.
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I know that.
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I know that you've been advised that
you can have a solicitor present,
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but I blilieve that you've
indicated that you don't want one.
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- Is that still the case?
- Yes.
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Could I ask why that is, Mr. Leach?
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I would've thought given your
situation that that would be advisable.
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Is that a Manchester accent?
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What would you like to
talk to us about Mr. Leach?
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I don't know how much
you know about me,
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- my situation.
- I'm assisting
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the investigation into
the death of Yasmin Heaney.
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You contacted the incident
room at Bristol saying
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you had some information
regarding that incident.
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I didn't...
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I didn't want my
solicitor here because...
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he has a son.
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Alastair Jackson.
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And it's becoming increasingly
apparent to me for some time
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and now I'm utterly convinced that
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he is the man you're looking for.
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And I don't just mean for
this latest attack, either.
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Desmond Jackson
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approached me after
I'd been convicted,
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several lawyers did, knowing that
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I'd been poorly served by the man
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who'd originally
represented me in court,
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knowing that I had been the victim
of a miscarriage of justice.
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I know you don't
believe that, but...
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I took him on, Desmond Jackson,
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because he seemed the most
keen
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as well as being the most able.
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I now have reason to believe
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that he had ulterior
motives in approaching me,
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motives that...
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were to do with contriving
to keep me inside prison,
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once I'd been blamed for
what his son had done.
255
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And what grounds have you got for
making this allegation, Mr. Leach?
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After I was convicted,
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Alastair Jackson appeared to become
obsessed with me.
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He wrote to me incessantly,
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he even requested to visit me,
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which I allowed him do... twice.
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At the time, you see, I
regarded him as a supporter.
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But looking back I realise now that
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it wasn't me he was obsessed with.
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He was obsessed with
the women
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I was accused of having murdered.
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He certainly knew far more about
them than I ever did.
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I now believe...
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from what he said...
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that he knew them.
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All of them, personally.
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Well, don't you think
that's significant?
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Isn't it true that
most murder victims
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are killed by people they know?
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I'd never met this man until sometime
after his father offered to help me,
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and yet it would appear that he
knew personally the four women
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I was convicted of
having murdered. I didn't.
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So you're saying
that your solicitor...
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Desmond Jackson...
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is fully aware of what his son...
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may have done and is
helping to cover it up?
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Yes.
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Yes, that's exactly
what I'm saying.
283
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Can you prove any of the
things that you're saying?
284
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Well, I imagine I could, yes,
if I wasn't stuck in here.
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He knew Yasmin Heaney,
too.
286
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He mentioned her a number of times
in letters to me.
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- Would you like to see?
- Yeah.
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I've made copies.
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OK.
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When did you realise this...
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about Alastair Jackson?
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When I heard about Yasmin Heaney.
293
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It'd been staring me in the face.
294
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For years...
295
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and then the penny dropped.
296
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Is there anything else you'd
like to say to me, Mr. Leach?
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I shouldn't be in here.
298
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We have picked Alastair
Jackson up, by the way. Twice.
299
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Yeah. I read that
in the information pack.
300
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He did know Yasmin Heaney.
301
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He spent rather too much time
in the library where she works.
302
00:16:50,670 --> 00:16:52,520
You making your way down
to Bristol now, ma'am?
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That's the plan!
304
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Are you all right?
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I hate these places.
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I appreciate that not all
will have had chance to
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read the handouts in any
depth, ladies and gentlemen,
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so whilst our victim Yasmin
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is a main line of inquiry,
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the nature of the attack,
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the fact that it
resembles the Leach murders
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of 13 years ago, have lead us
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to focus primarily on two
main lines of investigation.
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People who had access to
confidential information
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during the original investigation
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that's the lawyers,
police officers, jury
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and people who had access to Leach
when he was inside prison.
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Of the people we've identified as
being most interesting,
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perhaps the most
significant at this moment
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is Alastair Jackson.
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Now, Jackson is unemployed,
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misfit, obsessed with Leach.
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An apparent supporter of Leach.
324
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He visited him on two occasions
inside prison.
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His father, oddly enough,
is Leach's solicitor,
326
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so Jackson may have had had access
to confidential information
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00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,470
right there in his parents home at
the time of the original investigation.
328
00:17:54,590 --> 00:17:56,080
His alibi
329
00:17:56,690 --> 00:17:58,250
at the time that
Yasmin went missing
330
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turned out to be an
elaborate pack of lies...
331
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But still no arrest.
332
00:18:04,350 --> 00:18:06,370
DCI Murray came across from the
Crime Faculty
333
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to help us with the original
investigation
334
00:18:08,690 --> 00:18:11,930
and she has in fact spoken
to Leach this very morning
335
00:18:12,410 --> 00:18:15,230
at his request inside
Ravenhill Prison.
336
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He himself is pointing
the finger at Jackson.
337
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,900
And not just for
Yasmin's murder either.
338
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Leach is suggesting that
Jackson was responsible
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for the murders he was
sent down for 13 years ago.
340
00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:27,450
I hope you don't mind me saying,
341
00:18:27,710 --> 00:18:30,450
but if you're seriously considering
Alastair Jackson for Yasmin,
342
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we're opening a can of worms,
343
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and one which Leach
will exploit to the hilt,
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and frankly, in my book,
345
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the fact that Leach
is pointing the finger
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at Jackson is practically
grounds to rule him out.
347
00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:56,390
Isn't there like a
really screaming flaw
348
00:18:56,490 --> 00:18:58,510
in the whole basis
of the investigation?
349
00:18:59,150 --> 00:19:00,450
Is there?
350
00:19:01,710 --> 00:19:03,010
- What?
- Well,
351
00:19:03,020 --> 00:19:04,690
their two lines of inquiry
352
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:06,660
and the way that you're talking
353
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,680
are based entirely
on the assumption that
354
00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:11,490
that Leach is guilty
of the original crimes.
355
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:12,810
Thank you.
356
00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:14,690
It's not an assumption.
357
00:19:15,410 --> 00:19:16,710
He is guilty.
358
00:19:17,310 --> 00:19:18,610
Yeah. But...
359
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:21,600
- What if he isn't?
- But, he is.
360
00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:24,640
Yeah, but if he isn't, then
the whole thing's skewed.
361
00:19:25,310 --> 00:19:28,060
Rachel Bailey. Gill Murray.
We've got reservations.
362
00:19:28,330 --> 00:19:30,690
Yeah, but he is. So it isn't.
363
00:19:30,730 --> 00:19:32,450
Fill these forms out, please.
364
00:19:33,170 --> 00:19:34,470
I feel like...
365
00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:36,910
you're not hearing what I'm saying.
366
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:38,800
You've read your ringbinders.
367
00:19:38,850 --> 00:19:41,960
It was Leach's DNA at the scene.
368
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:43,870
His thumb print
369
00:19:44,190 --> 00:19:46,600
on the pendant of Catherine
Maloney's necklace,
370
00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:48,850
pressed so hard it was
embedded into her skin
371
00:19:48,860 --> 00:19:52,120
and at the time he couldn't account
372
00:19:52,130 --> 00:19:53,870
for how else his dabs could have
got on it, even if he came up
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00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,010
with some convoluted
rubbish about it afterwards.
374
00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:57,820
- Yeah, but...
- His delivery schedule
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00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:01,810
put him at or near all the murders.
376
00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:03,380
We even had a witness who ID'd him
377
00:20:03,390 --> 00:20:05,330
in the area of one of them.
378
00:20:06,370 --> 00:20:07,670
All right, forget it.
379
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,410
Do you think he's a bit too
good looking to be a killer?
380
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:12,750
Did you ever seen a
photo of Ted Bundy?
381
00:20:12,850 --> 00:20:14,450
Think he was a bit too
good looking as well
382
00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:16,960
to have raped and murdered 34 women?
383
00:20:17,470 --> 00:20:18,970
I didn't believe him,
384
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:20,710
but I didn't not
believe him either.
385
00:20:20,970 --> 00:20:24,170
Rachel! Are you serious?
You'd let that man out?
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00:20:24,270 --> 00:20:26,250
No! No.
387
00:20:27,030 --> 00:20:29,590
Well, yeah, if he's not guilty.
388
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,190
- Oh, God.
- What?
389
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,850
Bandits at two.
Julian McAndrew...
390
00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:35,500
writes for The Guardian
and The New Statesman,
391
00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:37,710
one of Leach's staunchest
dickhead supporters.
392
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:39,690
- That was quick.
- It's volatile, I told you. Don't look.
393
00:20:40,010 --> 00:20:43,680
I can almost understand
them not getting it, but you?
394
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:45,720
You used to work in
the sex crimes unit.
395
00:20:45,730 --> 00:20:47,460
You know rape isn't about sex.
396
00:20:47,470 --> 00:20:50,060
It's about power and
control and humiliation.
397
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:51,490
He's a sick fuck,
398
00:20:51,730 --> 00:20:53,570
and he can hide it better
than your average herbert
399
00:20:53,580 --> 00:20:55,430
because he's clever, clever enough
400
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,050
to make someone like you
doubt forensic evidence.
401
00:20:58,510 --> 00:21:01,200
Room 703 and Room 522.
402
00:21:01,450 --> 00:21:03,050
- Enjoy your stay, ladies.
- Thank you.
403
00:21:03,450 --> 00:21:04,750
All we have to do, well,
404
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,540
all North Avon have
to do is find out
405
00:21:06,550 --> 00:21:08,450
who killed Yasmin,
and prove it fast,
406
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,200
before people like McAndrew
407
00:21:10,210 --> 00:21:11,850
manage to turn it into
something it isn't.
408
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:14,350
We know who killed
the others, Rachel,
409
00:21:14,750 --> 00:21:16,050
it was that nice man you spoke to
410
00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:17,410
this morning at HMP Ravenhill.
411
00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:18,840
Well, all the same. I think we...
412
00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:21,330
I think they ought
to look very closely
413
00:21:21,340 --> 00:21:22,880
- at Jackson again.
- I agree with you
414
00:21:22,890 --> 00:21:24,700
cos I think Leach is trying
to set Jackson up, which...
415
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:26,010
which...
416
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:29,050
means he's involved.
417
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,640
It's not just someone
who's copying him.
418
00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:32,360
It's someone he's conspired with,
419
00:21:32,370 --> 00:21:35,240
someone he's consciously
inculcated with his...
420
00:21:36,330 --> 00:21:37,630
And he's arrogant
enough to think he
421
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,200
can point us in
the wrong direction.
422
00:21:39,370 --> 00:21:41,350
Stick your bag in your room,
back here in five minutes,
423
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:42,830
we're going to the incident room.
424
00:21:52,150 --> 00:21:53,450
Ed!
425
00:21:54,190 --> 00:21:56,380
- Hello, ma'am.
- Where's Mr. Wallis?
426
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:58,050
He's driven over to Abbots Leigh.
427
00:22:00,350 --> 00:22:01,650
Another girl's turned up.
428
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:03,370
Same.
429
00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:05,230
Cable ties.
430
00:22:13,850 --> 00:22:15,410
Yeah. It makes sense.
431
00:22:15,450 --> 00:22:17,070
I mean, it was always
a possibility of course
432
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,810
that Leach was behind the
whole thing, yeah but...
433
00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:22,600
does it actually change
the investigation?
434
00:22:22,610 --> 00:22:23,910
If we accept that he's
pulling the strings?
435
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,690
No, no, of course
it doesn't, but again
436
00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,650
it points the finger
away from Jackson,
437
00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:29,910
given that he was so
keen to implicate him.
438
00:22:30,370 --> 00:22:33,100
Look, Gill. I don't want it to
be Jackson any more than you do.
439
00:22:33,730 --> 00:22:37,490
I know what kind of unhelpful frenzy
this could set off in the media.
440
00:22:37,610 --> 00:22:39,610
But we have got to keep
an open mind.
441
00:22:39,710 --> 00:22:43,590
Yeah. Course. But this is
someone who is inside with him.
442
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,230
This is not a visitor,
certainly not Jackson.
443
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,660
This is someone not unlike himself.
444
00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:50,650
This is someone who is
capable of doing that.
445
00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:54,420
Even a copycat killing, you don't
go from nought to 90 in 10 seconds.
446
00:22:54,430 --> 00:22:56,220
Jackson's got no criminal record.
447
00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:58,960
You and I both know that whoever
did this has got previous.
448
00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:01,470
Jackson hasn't even
got a speeding ticket
449
00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:03,370
cos he doesn't drive! So
450
00:23:03,380 --> 00:23:05,270
how's he got that body out here?
451
00:23:05,810 --> 00:23:07,560
You're absolutely right.
452
00:23:10,610 --> 00:23:12,200
So what haven't I done, Gill?
453
00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:15,150
Could I ask how you're
prioritising interviewing
454
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,660
and eliminating the people
Leach has been inside with?
455
00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:20,040
I mean, prisoners not wardens and
visitors.
456
00:23:20,050 --> 00:23:21,480
Yeah, well, initially we're looking
at people
457
00:23:21,490 --> 00:23:23,780
who he's close to in
the last five years,
458
00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:27,320
people he spent time with who
were released in the last year.
459
00:23:27,330 --> 00:23:30,320
I think you should be prioritising
your sexually-motivated killers.
460
00:23:30,340 --> 00:23:31,970
Going back the whole 13 years,
461
00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:34,040
however brief their
exposure to him.
462
00:23:34,050 --> 00:23:35,360
Well, that was discussed, but...
463
00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:37,960
I hope you don't mind, but I
rang the clinical psychologist
464
00:23:37,970 --> 00:23:39,960
I work with in
Manchester, Martin Hines.
465
00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:43,100
He says this could be someone
Leach met in the toilets
466
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:45,340
for five minutes once
a week ten years ago.
467
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:47,680
He'll have avoided being noticed
with this person
468
00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:49,790
because he's got too
much in common with him.
469
00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:52,380
He's persistently
maintained his innocence, so
470
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:54,870
so publicly this person
would be anathema to him.
471
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,980
Privately though, this is someone
he'll have identified
472
00:23:57,990 --> 00:24:01,980
really quickly, then cultivated,
then avoided being seen with.
473
00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:04,390
He'll have promised him something,
God knows what,
474
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,460
a spree together if ever
he helps him get out,
475
00:24:07,470 --> 00:24:10,270
not money, that wouldn't motivate
this sort of sick bugger.
476
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,250
And he's so controlled, Leach,
477
00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:15,240
this could be someone who was
released three or four years ago,
478
00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:18,310
waiting for Leach to give him the
nod at just the right moment...
479
00:24:18,370 --> 00:24:19,670
With exactly the right victim.
480
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,890
Leach knew that Jackson
knew Yasmin Heaney.
481
00:24:21,930 --> 00:24:24,310
He mentioned her in the
letters that he wrote to Leach,
482
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,520
Jackson did, and she
fitted the victim profile.
483
00:24:28,030 --> 00:24:30,370
Well, a couple of the lads did
a comprehensive list of everybody
484
00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:33,230
that Leach was exposed to inside
prison going back the whole 13 years.
485
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,660
Do you want to have look at it,
486
00:24:35,070 --> 00:24:37,050
- suggest a new strategy?
- Sure.
487
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:38,690
Have you identified her?
488
00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:41,160
There was a 30-year-old
woman reported missing
489
00:24:41,170 --> 00:24:42,510
in Bristol last week...
490
00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:44,210
Jodie Winterbourne.
491
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:46,010
30,
492
00:24:46,020 --> 00:24:47,320
five foot eight,
493
00:24:47,630 --> 00:24:48,930
short dark hair.
494
00:24:50,290 --> 00:24:52,070
She's ticking a lot of boxes.
495
00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:56,990
Dark brown hair, five foot eight.
496
00:24:57,810 --> 00:24:59,210
What about it?
497
00:24:59,490 --> 00:25:00,790
I fit the victim profile,
498
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,200
that's why you asked
me to interview him.
499
00:25:02,610 --> 00:25:05,550
Yeah. I thought he'd fall for you
though, not the other way round.
500
00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:07,950
- That's unethical.
- Sue me.
501
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,060
It didn't occur to me in fact.
502
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,080
You were the first
Tier 3 I bumped into.
503
00:25:12,090 --> 00:25:14,180
I asked where Janet was,
if you remember.
504
00:25:15,370 --> 00:25:16,670
So is this what you used to do?
505
00:25:16,790 --> 00:25:18,860
Drop into other forces,
tell 'em what to do?
506
00:25:19,070 --> 00:25:21,780
You don't tell people what to do.
You advise them.
507
00:25:21,810 --> 00:25:23,950
I advised on eight
jobs in one week once.
508
00:25:24,580 --> 00:25:25,880
- What, murders?
- Yep.
509
00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:28,020
Still, it's swings and
roundabouts, isn't it?
510
00:25:28,030 --> 00:25:29,330
If I hadn't given it up
511
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:30,720
I'd never have met
you and Kevin.
512
00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:41,310
So he's been in four prisons,
513
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,810
had 58 cell moves.
514
00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:46,430
That's a total of 3,426 inmates
515
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,850
he's potentially come into contact
516
00:25:47,860 --> 00:25:49,160
with over 13 years.
517
00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:50,950
Let's start with a list of those
518
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,650
convicted of murder and of rape.
519
00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:54,200
- Thank you.
- OK.
520
00:25:54,220 --> 00:25:56,850
Then a list of those
just convicted of murder,
521
00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:58,310
cos, let's faces, how many times
522
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,760
have we had someone
who's raped and murdered,
523
00:25:59,770 --> 00:26:02,080
but the CPS only push
on the murder charge?
524
00:26:02,090 --> 00:26:04,110
- Tell me about it.
- Then, third...
525
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,940
a list of those
convicted of just rape.
526
00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:07,560
Cool. Yep.
527
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:09,030
Ma'am, is it all right if I...
528
00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:10,670
- make a call?
- Yeah. Course.
529
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:17,050
Dom?
530
00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:18,720
- Hiya.
- Where are you?
531
00:26:19,470 --> 00:26:20,770
Your house.
532
00:26:21,410 --> 00:26:22,710
Where have you been?
533
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,160
Nowhere just here.
534
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:27,720
Me and Alison have both been
trying to get hold of you.
535
00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:30,110
I know, I'm sorry.
536
00:26:32,570 --> 00:26:34,020
You all right?
537
00:26:35,930 --> 00:26:37,230
Yep.
538
00:26:38,370 --> 00:26:39,910
I've been worried about you.
539
00:26:41,890 --> 00:26:43,190
Sorry.
540
00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:45,970
Are you eating properly?
541
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,780
Yep.
542
00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:49,110
What've you had today?
543
00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:51,870
Toast.
544
00:26:55,690 --> 00:26:56,990
Listen, Dom...
545
00:26:59,690 --> 00:27:00,990
I love you.
546
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:04,450
I don't want you to be
embarrassed about what's happened.
547
00:27:06,170 --> 00:27:09,420
I just want you to move on and
get your life back together.
548
00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:11,590
Yeah.
549
00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:15,940
Some of the most
horrendous, violent murders
550
00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:17,830
I've ever seen have
involved gay men
551
00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:20,970
with other men in exactly that
situation like you were in.
552
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,270
I'm sorry if you think...
553
00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:30,220
Look, I wasn't over-reacting.
Believe me, I wasn't.
554
00:27:32,770 --> 00:27:34,070
OK.
555
00:27:34,810 --> 00:27:37,370
We'll work everything out, all right?
556
00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:41,090
We will, I promise.
557
00:27:42,130 --> 00:27:44,210
I want you to buy some
fresh fruit and veg
558
00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:46,680
with that money I left you, right?
559
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,670
- Dom?
- Yep. Yep.
560
00:27:52,210 --> 00:27:55,820
All right I've got to go, but
I'll be back soon. Soon as I can.
561
00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:58,530
Yep.
562
00:28:00,490 --> 00:28:03,070
I'll see you.
See you.
563
00:28:20,030 --> 00:28:22,990
42 killers also convicted
of rape, now released.
564
00:28:23,090 --> 00:28:24,920
Most of them are elderly, past it.
565
00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:28,070
12 under the age of 60.
The youngest is 38.
566
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,390
We need the crime scene photos
567
00:28:30,430 --> 00:28:33,380
of the murders that each of those
12 were originally convicted of.
568
00:28:33,390 --> 00:28:35,330
- Yep.
- And we need to compare them...
569
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:37,310
- Ed?
- Listening.
570
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,310
With the crime scenes from
the present two murders...
571
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,170
Yasmin's and this latest
one Jodie if it is Jodie...
572
00:28:42,580 --> 00:28:43,920
- Yep...
- starting with those
573
00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:45,720
who now live geographically closest
574
00:28:45,730 --> 00:28:48,470
because every one of these twisted
sods should be out on a license.
575
00:28:48,570 --> 00:28:50,450
They'll have a parole
officer to report to,
576
00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:52,730
so chances are it's not
someone who's in Edinburgh.
577
00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:54,210
- Yep.
- There's another thing
578
00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:56,490
I want you to do.
I want you to compare
579
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,700
the photos of Yasmin's murder
and Jodie's murder with each other
580
00:28:59,710 --> 00:29:02,850
and then compare those with
the four Leach was convicted of.
581
00:29:02,890 --> 00:29:05,470
And this time I want you
to look at the differences
582
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,440
as well as the similarities.
583
00:29:07,450 --> 00:29:10,070
I think they've focused on
the similarities too much.
584
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,690
I want you to look at what this
new bloke's brought to the party
585
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:14,590
that's nothing to
do with Leach's MO.
586
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,220
Something all of his own
from his previous offences
587
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:19,770
that's seeped through, something
he's probably not aware of himself.
588
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,780
Right.
589
00:29:53,050 --> 00:29:55,410
You've got four men
in your force area
590
00:29:55,450 --> 00:29:57,190
who could be the person
we're looking for.
591
00:29:57,410 --> 00:30:00,620
Three of them are registered with their
probation officers here in Bristol,
592
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:03,410
but there's another one, a fella
called Philip Martin Hibbert...
593
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:07,410
who's registered at
an address in Yeovil.
594
00:30:08,020 --> 00:30:11,030
He murdered two women 15
years ago, raped 'em as well,
595
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,340
but he was never charged with that.
596
00:30:12,350 --> 00:30:14,210
He was released 18 months since.
597
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:16,670
The other three are John James
Wilkes,
598
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,560
registered at an
address in St Paul's,
599
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:20,930
sexually assaulted three
women in Lincolnshire,
600
00:30:20,940 --> 00:30:22,240
- none of whom died.
- But
601
00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:24,320
But one of whom the police
believed he'd left for dead,
602
00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:26,210
so it was an attempted
murder rather than a murder.
603
00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:30,080
He was released four years ago,
originally sent down in 1997.
604
00:30:30,090 --> 00:30:33,230
Hassan Abuzein, registered
an address Knowle West,
605
00:30:33,250 --> 00:30:34,550
sent down 1995, raped
606
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,450
and murdered his niece
in Southall, London.
607
00:30:37,070 --> 00:30:39,250
Released from Ravenhill
six months ago.
608
00:30:39,450 --> 00:30:42,810
Ashley Robert Boyall,
ex-army, registered address Easton,
609
00:30:42,820 --> 00:30:44,810
released two-and-a-half
years ago. Served 15 years
610
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,540
for murdering two sex workers.
611
00:30:46,550 --> 00:30:48,860
That was in... Kettering.
612
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:52,530
We can widen the net obviously if this
doesn't give us what we're looking for.
613
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:54,610
But I asked Rachel to
look at the differences
614
00:30:54,730 --> 00:30:57,550
between Leach's original crime
scenes and the present ones
615
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,860
to see if there was any seepage,
616
00:30:58,870 --> 00:31:00,330
things that didn't
fit in with Leach
617
00:31:00,370 --> 00:31:03,190
but which did correspond
to the MO of these men.
618
00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,070
We think this one, the first one,
Hibbert,
619
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,990
could be the man
you're looking for.
620
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,190
- Show him.
- Well, that's Yasmin Heaney
621
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,050
and that's Jodie,
last night, yeah?
622
00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:16,260
That's Heather Price and that's Jane
Reid, Hibbert's victims.
623
00:31:21,210 --> 00:31:23,430
He dragged them all
there by their arms.
624
00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:26,000
Which suggests they were already
dead when he took 'em there.
625
00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:28,790
Leach didn't do that, he
killed his victims at the scene.
626
00:31:29,050 --> 00:31:30,990
There are a few more
details pointing at Hibbert,
627
00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:33,360
- which we can go through if you like.
- Sorry.
628
00:31:34,210 --> 00:31:35,770
Hello. Rick Wallis.
629
00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:38,550
Yep.
630
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:41,310
OK, thank you.
631
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,890
Thank you. Bye now. Bye.
632
00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:45,150
That was the lab.
633
00:31:47,410 --> 00:31:50,130
Alastair Jackson's DNA on
a cigarette butt we found
634
00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:52,000
at last night's crime scene.
635
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,130
I'm just asking before you race
in and make an arrest which,
636
00:31:59,140 --> 00:32:01,560
if you believe that's the right
thing to do, that's your call.
637
00:32:01,570 --> 00:32:03,240
But I'm asking you
to consider this...
638
00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:05,360
we've been working
on the theory that
639
00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:06,960
Leach is setting
Jackson up,
640
00:32:06,970 --> 00:32:09,910
working with an accomplice,
who is capable of rape and murder.
641
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,930
I'm pretty certain that same person
642
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:14,480
would be more than capable
of planting a fag butt too.
643
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,660
I suggest that someone
in Jackson's orbit
644
00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:18,970
has watched him smoke a fag
645
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:20,740
then picked it up when
he's stubbed it out.
646
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:22,080
Who does he hang around with?
647
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,600
Jackson? No-one.
648
00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:28,150
I told you, he's an
oddity, he's a loner.
649
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,990
Someone, anyone.
Where does he go, what does he do?
650
00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:33,860
We know he liked going in the
library where Yasmin worked.
651
00:32:34,750 --> 00:32:37,610
Well, the only thing was
the man who wasn't there.
652
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:39,730
- Who?
- The man who doesn't exist.
653
00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:42,350
- Who?
- Dunno. He didn't exist.
654
00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:44,260
Yeah. Jackson's alibi.
655
00:32:44,270 --> 00:32:46,150
He said that when Yasmin
was being attacked,
656
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,980
he was with some
fella called Tim Smith
657
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:50,530
who he said worked for
Burton's builders' supplies
658
00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:53,680
on St Bude's Road, and who
lived in a flat in Frome,
659
00:32:53,690 --> 00:32:57,080
and who he said he got very drunk
with on the night in question.
660
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,020
So drunk in fact, that he could
661
00:32:59,030 --> 00:33:00,960
remember almost
nothing the next day.
662
00:33:00,970 --> 00:33:02,270
We had it checked out.
663
00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:03,970
We checked it out thoroughly,
I mean
664
00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:05,610
we checked every Tim
Smith in our force area,
665
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:08,870
and in the surrounding four
force areas, and nothing.
666
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,180
So where did Jackson
go to with this
667
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:11,490
Tim Smith to get drunk then?
668
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,020
Well, he said they drank
at home, Jackson's home.
669
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,340
There were no
witnesses so no-one's
670
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:17,320
seen or heard of this
Tim Smith.
671
00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:19,930
He did invent it, so...
672
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,020
it makes you wonder why would you make
something up if you've got nothing to hide?
673
00:33:23,030 --> 00:33:24,820
But you don't think
Jackson was off his face.
674
00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:27,050
The whole thing is a
crap attempt at an alibi?
675
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,420
That's what we were
left with, yeah.
676
00:33:28,430 --> 00:33:30,470
What else did he say about the man
who doesn't exist?
677
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,780
How recently had
he got to know him?
678
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,100
Recent.
679
00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:36,370
Well, what if Tim Smith does exist?
680
00:33:36,380 --> 00:33:37,910
Only he's not called Tim Smith.
681
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,400
And he sat with Jackson,
let him drink himself stupid and
682
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:45,110
left him rat-arsed,
incapable, alone,
683
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,570
and then he went off
and committed the murder.
684
00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:50,430
So how about sticking Hibbert
in a pre-arrest vim's ID parade
685
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,220
and seeing if Jackson recognises
Hibbert but as Tim Smith.
686
00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:58,660
Is it all right if I call
you Alastair, Mr. Jackson?
687
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,720
You can call me what you like.
688
00:34:02,150 --> 00:34:03,660
You probably will anyway.
689
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:05,830
We just wanted to have a little bit
690
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,430
of a talk with you
about your friend.
691
00:34:08,140 --> 00:34:10,560
The one you told us
about... Tim Smith.
692
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,110
Have you seen him at all recently?
693
00:34:14,140 --> 00:34:15,440
No.
694
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,790
What we were wondering,
Alastair, is...
695
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,070
do you think if we showed
you some photographs
696
00:34:23,490 --> 00:34:25,410
that you might be
able to recognise him?
697
00:34:25,950 --> 00:34:27,670
Yes, I imagine so.
698
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,980
Why? Have you found him?
699
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,130
We think we might be getting close.
700
00:34:34,850 --> 00:34:36,150
OK,
701
00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:38,530
I'm just going to ask
you a few questions.
702
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,100
First question might seem a bit odd
703
00:34:40,110 --> 00:34:43,000
but I will explain to you
at the end why I'm asking.
704
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,980
You told us
705
00:34:45,390 --> 00:34:47,620
that you and Mr. Smith
706
00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:49,570
went back to your house
and had a few drinks.
707
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,490
I thought you didn't believe me.
708
00:34:52,610 --> 00:34:54,200
About Tim Smith.
709
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960
You said he stayed
a while, chatting.
710
00:34:59,810 --> 00:35:02,030
Yes. He did.
711
00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:05,490
Now, I know you told us
712
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,720
you don't remember much
about what happened later.
713
00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:09,030
But...
714
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:13,310
if we were to come round
to your house with you...
715
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,910
do you think you might be able
to point to anything
716
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160
he might have touched
while he was there?
717
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,620
He went through some of my CDs.
718
00:35:22,650 --> 00:35:23,980
Is that any good?
719
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,380
Yes, I think that would be spot on.
720
00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:29,950
You see if we can get
his fingerprints...
721
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,390
In fact the glass he drank out of
722
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,520
is probably still on the floor
somewhere.
723
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,220
Nice.
724
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,720
And are you anywhere
nearer catching the killer?
725
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,110
Because you know what's being said,
726
00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:45,570
don't you?
In the press.
727
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,160
That whoever is murdering these
women
728
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:52,220
could've been the
killer 13 years ago.
729
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:54,800
My father and I have been saying
for years
730
00:35:54,810 --> 00:35:56,740
that Jeremy Leach
is an innocent man.
731
00:35:56,780 --> 00:35:59,260
And he's been talking
so highly of you, pal.
732
00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:01,610
Would you like to come this
way please, Mr. Jackson?
733
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,810
Hello. Rick Wallis.
734
00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:10,290
Yep. He's identified Him.
735
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:13,870
Jackson's identified Hibbert!
Let's pick him up!
736
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,060
Well done.
737
00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:19,510
You stick with me kid,
I'll get you into a fight.
738
00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:34,250
Yeah, hold on!
739
00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:41,010
Fuck.
740
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,740
- Hello.
- I fell asleep.
741
00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:47,130
You did right.
Can I come in?
742
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:49,960
Yeah,
743
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:51,800
I was just packing.
744
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:55,740
I've just had a phone call.
745
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,990
It's bad news.
746
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,780
- Our Dom.
- Who's Dom?
747
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,620
No, not Dom.
748
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:07,110
I had a phone call from the CPS
in Manchester.
749
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,310
They're dropping the
attempted murder charge
750
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,840
against Nick Savage.
751
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:15,480
I know. I know. It's...
752
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:18,900
Unbelievable doesn't
even start to cover it.
753
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:21,770
Well, so what are
they charging him with?
754
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:23,870
Nothing. They're say there's insufficient,
755
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,180
They're saying there's
no evidence.
756
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:27,530
They're saying legally
there isn't a case.
757
00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:29,750
- So he's gonna walk?
- Well,
758
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,190
he'll never work
as a barrister again
759
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,080
because of his relationship
with that juror,
760
00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:35,550
and I'm assuming his
marriage is stuffed, but
761
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,890
- yes, that's the upshot at the minute.
- He knows where I live.
762
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:41,200
I'd be very surprised if he
tried anything like that again.
763
00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:42,800
He's got keys to my flat.
764
00:37:42,820 --> 00:37:44,300
Change the locks.
765
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:46,520
Are you all right?
766
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,310
Stupid question.
767
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:53,340
Do you want the less bad news?
768
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:58,280
I don't know.
Do I?
769
00:37:58,490 --> 00:38:01,040
They picked Hibbert
up. Two hours ago.
770
00:38:01,050 --> 00:38:02,620
They found his phone,
771
00:38:02,650 --> 00:38:05,400
they found a few other things
that could link him to Leach.
772
00:38:05,420 --> 00:38:08,370
Anyway, he's confessed,
he's confessing.
773
00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:10,430
He's talking right now,
774
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,430
mostly about Leach about
how Leach coached him,
775
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,470
the things he told him he'd done.
776
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,730
The point is. Rick Wallis wants us
to talk to Leach again
777
00:38:18,740 --> 00:38:21,510
to put it to him that Hibbert's
making these allegations.
778
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,550
They've only got us for another 24
hours. I said we would.
779
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:27,040
- What do you think?
- Yeah.
780
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,660
Dom's my brother, by the way.
781
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,540
He was at my birthday thing.
782
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,250
He probably didn't speak to you.
783
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:40,050
I was thinking about that pig...
784
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,620
Savage.
785
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,520
You wouldn't really
want endless details
786
00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:47,520
about your private life dragged
through the court, would you?
787
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,820
Cos you know damned well
that's what'd happen,
788
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:53,150
if the CPS had pressed
charges against him.
789
00:38:54,140 --> 00:38:56,480
You know what I
really can't get over
790
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:58,730
is that I trusted him.
791
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,250
I loved him. I wanted to spend
the rest of my life with him.
792
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,280
Yeah. Well.
793
00:39:05,590 --> 00:39:07,590
Some people are very
plausible, aren't they?
794
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,350
Yeah but how do you know?
795
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:11,890
How can you see through 'em?
796
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,420
Like this Leach bastard.
797
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,480
- I did, I fell for it.
- You can't always.
798
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,030
Look at the bugger
I married.
799
00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:27,630
It's not just instinct.
It's experience.
800
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,990
I think a large part of instinct
is experience.
801
00:39:32,260 --> 00:39:33,560
So, you know,
802
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:37,410
I don't think we should give
up on your rosy future just yet.
803
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,030
Well, I sometimes think
I'm shit at this job.
804
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,180
Hey! If you're fishing
for compliments lady,
805
00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:44,140
you're talking to the
wrong small-minded bitch.
806
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,860
Why didn't I know
you had a brother?
807
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,820
Because he's a bit of black sheep
808
00:39:52,830 --> 00:39:55,620
in a family of black
sheep so that's going some.
809
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,830
What's he done?
810
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,580
Dom...
811
00:39:59,590 --> 00:40:01,310
What hadn't he done?
812
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,920
No, he's just staying
with me at the minute
813
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,480
because he's a bit down on his luck
814
00:40:06,490 --> 00:40:08,880
and because he's got
nowhere else to go.
815
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,730
Have you arrested Alastair Jackson?
816
00:40:20,290 --> 00:40:22,380
No, Mr. Leach. We haven't.
817
00:40:23,420 --> 00:40:25,520
We charged a man called
Philip Martin Hibbert
818
00:40:25,530 --> 00:40:27,840
with the murders of Yasmin
Heaney and Jodie Winterbourne.
819
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:30,170
Do you know him?
820
00:40:30,190 --> 00:40:31,490
Phillip Martin Hibbert?
821
00:40:31,570 --> 00:40:34,470
Yes, yes. He... was in Durham
822
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,650
at the same time I was,
on the same wing, briefly. Why?
823
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,200
Could you describe the sort
of contact you had with him
824
00:40:39,550 --> 00:40:41,480
- in Durham?
- None.
825
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:44,050
And have you had any contact
with him since he was released?
826
00:40:44,060 --> 00:40:45,630
Well, no, of course
not. Why would I?
827
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,360
Hibbert is telling
us that you and he
828
00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:50,550
became very close in Durham.
829
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:52,580
Well, that's not true.
830
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,610
That you had an understanding,
831
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:56,310
an agreement.
832
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,580
Hibbert was an odd,
833
00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:01,420
unpleasant kind of...
834
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,870
just not the sort of person
I would associate with.
835
00:41:04,110 --> 00:41:05,820
That's not what he says.
836
00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:07,910
If he's implying anything about me,
837
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,220
then he's...
838
00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:12,280
he's delusional.
839
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,080
Do you know when Janet got stabbed?
840
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,720
I fell apart. You didn't.
841
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,880
I just stood there
shaking, babbling.
842
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:35,850
I'd only known her for 12 months.
843
00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:37,580
You'd known her nearly 20 years,
yet...
844
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:40,920
it was me that was falling to bits.
845
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:43,680
If I hadn't been there you'd
have done everything I did.
846
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,650
You had the luxury of falling apart
847
00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:49,910
because you knew I wouldn't.
848
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,990
You'd have coped, if you'd had to.
849
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,470
I went home and cried my eyes out,
850
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,570
but there was no way I
was gonna do that there
851
00:41:58,580 --> 00:42:00,770
then in front of you lot.
852
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:02,950
Plus. I remember thinking,
853
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:05,820
if this is the last
thing I ever do for Janet
854
00:42:05,830 --> 00:42:07,810
for Janet, and I
hope to God it isn't,
855
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,670
I'm going to do it properly.
856
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:12,010
That's where your head
would've been if it'd had to be.
857
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,070
And the fact that you beat
yourself up about stuff so much
858
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,520
tells me how keen you are to
859
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,320
learn and get things right.
860
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,660
You're good.
861
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,070
And one day, you'll be very good.
862
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,820
All right?
863
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:30,230
I made a really bad decision once.
864
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:34,320
What?
865
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,520
It was when
Sammy was four.
866
00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:42,300
I realised way back then
that Dave was mucking about
867
00:42:42,310 --> 00:42:43,780
with another woman and I...
868
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,660
buried my head in the sand.
869
00:42:50,290 --> 00:42:51,690
I was in love with the man...
870
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,020
I wanted him to be not
the man he clearly was,
871
00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:57,530
and I ignored it.
872
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,940
For ten years.
873
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:02,080
Pretended it wasn't happening.
874
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:03,560
And if I'd had the guts
875
00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:05,760
to deal with it then
876
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:07,780
instead of later when I had to,
877
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,310
when he went off with...
878
00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:12,350
Everything would've been
so much better for Sammy,
879
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,750
but for me as well because
I'd have got myself organised
880
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,530
so I didn't have to stop
working at the Faculty.
881
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,720
I was good at that job, Rachel,
I loved it.
882
00:43:21,730 --> 00:43:23,690
I know I was born for it, and...
883
00:43:24,690 --> 00:43:27,850
I'd almost forgotten how
much till these last few days.
884
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,130
I'd forgotten how
alive it made me feel.
885
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,790
- Have you heard the news?
- Very pretty.
886
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,130
So don't you think that
is like a confession?
887
00:44:00,140 --> 00:44:01,440
Not exactly.
888
00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:03,280
Someone like Leach,
889
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,800
a control freak,
being in prison's agony.
890
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:08,920
For all the usual reasons,
but on top of that,
891
00:44:08,930 --> 00:44:10,990
you've got no
control over anything.
892
00:44:11,010 --> 00:44:12,780
What time you eat, what time you
sleep,
893
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:14,260
when you speak to other people.
894
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,700
He's done that because death
895
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:18,380
is the only bit of
control he had left.
896
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:21,140
After we took away his little
carefully-planned pipe dream,
897
00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:23,230
that's all.
But, you know,
898
00:44:23,850 --> 00:44:25,150
who cares?
899
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,260
Well done.
900
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,220
- Is everything OK?
- Ma'am,
901
00:44:41,230 --> 00:44:42,860
- is it alright if me and Kev get off?
- Yes!
902
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:44,940
- Go! Good luck!
- Sergeants exam.
903
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:46,860
We will continue to
work round the clock
904
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:49,360
until Dylan is
brought home to Dawn.
905
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,450
- What?
- My brother's in hospital.
906
00:44:51,460 --> 00:44:54,230
He's been involved in some sort of
traffic accident.
907
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,690
- I'm taking you.
- You're not missing it
908
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:57,000
- cos of me!
- So
909
00:44:57,010 --> 00:44:59,250
you'll be working
with your ex-husband.
910
00:44:59,460 --> 00:45:00,900
I assume you haven't
got a problem with that?
911
00:45:00,910 --> 00:45:02,910
- No, sir.
- More flowers?
912
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,160
- Who they from this time?
- Same.
913
00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:11,600
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