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Even coming in here... someone
sees me coming in or out of this place...
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We understand. This is a
risk for me. Yes. A big risk.
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Don't worry, there's a way out
at the back, I'll show you later.
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You have information on Edward
Chapman's murder... Eddie. Yeah.
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Go on. It wasn't another club.
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That's what you all think, isn't
it? Like a gang war or something.
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It's what you lot always think, saves
you having to dust off your thinking caps.
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The dartford lot. That's
who the braves think did it.
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Or that's what they
told Reese. Reese?
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Reese Chapman. Eddie's son.
Two years in April, me and Reese.
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And this Reese is a member of
the braves, is he? He's a prospect.
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Like a trial member.
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Eddie was a founder, so
Reese has been around that lot
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since he was a kid. He's
been a prospect for two years.
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He held on even after Eddie died,
thinks he's making his dad proud...
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And his mum.
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A week tomorrow, he
becomes a full member.
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Initiation. Initiation. Yeah, motorcycle
clubs. The initiation for new members.
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So what does Reese have to do?
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He's got to avenge his dad by
killing one of the gang who did it.
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Except they didn't. It was Marcus
York, the president of the braves.
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He killed Eddie. How
do you know that? I know.
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Eddie Chapman's murder was
unsolved, there were no witnesses,
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no physical evidence. We can look at the
case again if you have any new evidence...
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I'm sitting here and I'm
telling you, in a week's time,
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my boyfriend is going
to commit murder.
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Now, I can't stop him
doing that, but you can.
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♪ It's all right, it's ok
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♪ doesn't really matter
if you're old and grey
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♪ it's all right, I say it's ok
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♪ listen to what I say
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♪ it's all right, doing fine
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♪ doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine
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♪ it's all right, I say it's ok
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♪ we're getting to
the end of the day. ♪
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Karen and Marcus aren't meant to have
started their thing until Eddie was killed.
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But I saw them
before, in a hotel.
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If it was happening
then... Whoa, whoa.
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You've lost us already. Just slow
down and start from the beginning.
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Can I smoke in here?
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No. Sadly.
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Ok, so Eddie Chapman and Marcus
York were best mates from the year dot.
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Eddie left school and joined
the army and while he was away,
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Marcus got himself in some kind
of trouble and ended up inside.
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Yeah, wounding with
intent. Did five years.
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Marcus got out and
Eddie came home
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and that's when they set up the
braves. This is about 25 years ago.
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Around the same time, Eddie married Karen
and they were together up until Eddie died.
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Reese is their only kid.
Your boyfriend? Yeah.
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So now Karen Chapman
and Marcus York are together
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and supposedly this
happened after Eddie was killed.
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Marcus was consoling her
and it turned into something else.
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But you think they were having an affair
while Eddie was still alive? I saw them.
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About a month before Eddie died, I
was visiting some friends one evening
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who were over from New Zealand. Anyway,
we've had a few drinks in the hotel bar
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and we get a couple of bottles to take up to
their room because you could smoke up there.
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I must have left about one
in the morning, I reckon.
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As I'm coming out of the
room, I hear another door open
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further down the corridor and Karen
Chapman and Marcus York come out,
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all giggly and flirty,
you know, like kids.
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And it doesn't take much
imagination to... did they see you?
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No. You sure? Well, they
were going the other way
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and I ducked back into the
room as soon as I saw them.
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And did you tell anyone? No.
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No! Look if it got out
that I even saw them,
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let alone told
anyone about it...
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Those are not two people you
want to get on the wrong side of.
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Even assuming there isn't another
explanation for what you saw,
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it hardly constitutes
evidence in a murder inquiry.
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It's motive. Stephanie, Eddie
Chapman was founder member
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of one of the most vicious
motorcycle clubs in the UK.
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We're really not short
of motives for his murder.
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I saw him on the night he died.
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He'd been in Rotterdam for a few
days, sorting out a shipment of bike parts,
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and he'd just got back that afternoon.
He came over looking for Reese,
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but Reese was at some party
and wasn't answering his phone.
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Eddie was in a terrible state.
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Really wound up about something,
but he wouldn't tell me what it was.
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He kept muttering about
loyalty and betrayal.
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He knew.
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I'm sure he just found out
about Karen and Marcus.
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I tried to get him to
calm down and talk to me,
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but he'd been drinking
and he couldn't settle.
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I told him he should sit down
and wait for Reese to call him back,
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but he was out the door
again a few minutes later.
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And that was it. An hour later,
they reckon, was when he died.
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And that's it? Yeah.
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He didn't tell you where he'd come
from, or where he was going? No.
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Did he make any reference to
his wife having an affair apart from
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all that stuff about
loyalty and betrayal? No.
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I've wasted my time. No, we'll
look at the files again. Yeah.
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Without something specific... You said
there was a back way out of here? Yeah.
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We will look at the
files. I need a cigarette.
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I think my dad knows
what happened.
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If he gets even a whiff
that this comes from me...
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David parr.
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Runs a motorcycle parts company.
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Eddie Chapman was his
partner and they were close.
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If Eddie was going to talk to anyone about
Karen and Marcus, it would have been my dad.
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Have you asked him about it? I
have, but he won't discuss it with me.
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Why not? Because people who have
dirt on the braves don't live very long.
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Eddie Chapman's body was found
in an alleyway off the holloway road
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on 21st December, 2009.
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He'd been stabbed seven
times in the chest and stomach.
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Now several passers-by reported
that they heard an argument
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between two men at around 11pm,
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which would have been
about the time of his death.
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But the area being what it was,
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no-one went to see what was
going on. What about the knife?
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According to the pathologist, a
flick knife, but it was never found.
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Now, Eddie Chapman was a
founder member of a motorcycle club
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called the braves.
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Now we're not talking about
a load of fat old geezers
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on harleys cruising the country
lanes on a Sunday afternoon,
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this lot are a serious organised
crime outfit - drug trafficking,
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protection, murder
for hire. You name it.
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These gangs are major players all
across Northern Europe these days,
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but there's a lot of
inter-gang rivalry.
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So the original investigation
assumed that Eddie Chapman
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had been killed by an outfit
called the dartford strays.
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If Stephanie parr thinks different, why doesn't
she tell her boyfriend he's after the wrong people?
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She can't prove it. Ah.
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And even if he believed her, she's
worried that he'd confront Marcus York,
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which probably
wouldn't end well for him.
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The "not being able to prove
it" is the salient point, isn't it?
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This girl hasn't got
a shred of evidence
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to support these allegations.
We've got a gun to our heads, Jack.
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We don't have a gun
to our heads, Brian.
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If this lad's going to kill
someone unless we prove...
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Since when have we been threatened into
taking on a case? We're not being threatened!
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There's a pile of
unsolved cases over there,
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why is something as flimsy as this jumping the
queue?! If you let me get a word in, I'll explain...
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Welcome to my world,
Gerry! Huh. Marcus York.
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President of the braves and
one of the nastier pieces of work
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any of us are ever
going to come across.
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Now, in the last three decades,
he's been pulled for murder,
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attempted murder, wounding
with intent, assault, you name it,
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and every single
time, he's walked.
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Either because the witnesses
have retracted their statements
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or just vanished into thin air.
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Ah! He's on the wish list. Exactly. The met
have wanted him out of commission for years.
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And you think we're going to succeed where
they failed on the word of some teenaged girl?!
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Probably not, but we'll at least
explore the possibility. Waste of time.
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If someone comes to see us, at
considerable risk to themselves,
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we're duty-bound to look into the
allegations they're making. Come on!
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So, you two go and talk to
David parr, Stephanie's father.
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She reckons he knows more about what
happened than he's prepared to tell her.
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If he won't talk to his own
daughter, why will he talk to us?
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No reason at all, but
we're going to ask anyway.
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Just think, Jack, when you
are done, you can get back to
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that huge pile of cases you've
taken such a sudden shine to.
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So how come you're
looking into this again?
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We review old cases
from time to time.
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Dotting the i's,
crossing the t's. Uh-huh.
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How long had you been in business
with Eddie Chapman? Well, er... 15 years.
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Oh, sorry. 15 years
sounds about right.
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You must have been close. We
were friends since we were kids.
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So mr Chapman was a member of the braves
before you set up in business with him?
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Yeah, but I didn't have anything
to do with that side of things.
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But they were customers of yours,
weren't they? Our biggest customers.
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The club runs a repair
shop off the holloway road.
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They get all their gear from us.
What I meant before was, I don't...
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I'm not a member of the club. I don't socialise
with them or anything. But you ride a bike? I do.
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Ah, like-minded people. Your
best friend was a founder member.
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Yeah, I don't like the
lifestyle. What does that mean?
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Dad? These new crates aren't catalogued
properly, someone's going to have to...
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Sorry, I didn't
know there were...
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These are policemen, love. They
are, they're here about Eddie. Oh.
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This is my daughter.
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Hello. Nice to meet you.
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I'll have a look at
the crates in a bit, eh?
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All right, I'm going to head
off, then. I'll call you later.
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See you later.
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Family business? Well, me and
Stephanie. My wife died four years ago,
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so it's just the two of us now.
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She's more friendly with
the braves than you are.
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That's Reese Chapman. Eddie's boy. They've
known each other since they were kids.
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He's all right, Reese, he went
off the rails a bit in his teens
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but he's grown up a
bit in the last few years.
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I think Stephanie's been a good influence
on him. Sorry, what were you asking me?
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Did Eddie Chapman use to
confide in you? About what?
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His personal life, any
worries he might have had...
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Yeah, sometimes. You know, we talked
about stuff. What about on the day he died?
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I didn't see him. He'd been away
in Rotterdam for a couple of days,
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sorting out a shipment
with one of our suppliers.
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He got back late
afternoon. I didn't see him.
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And before that? The last time
you saw him or spoke to him?
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Everything was fine.
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And if it hadn't have been, he
would have told you? Yeah, I reckon.
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Things all right between him and
mrs Chapman? Why wouldn't they be?
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She's with Marcus York now.
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Yeah, but all that happened
way after, didn't it? Did it?
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Would you have been
his first port of call?
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I mean, if he'd needed to
get anything off his chest,
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might he have talked
to somebody at the club?
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No. Maybe before, he
might have gone to spike...
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Spike? Paul worsley. Spike
was his nickname. Nice fella.
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He was a brave, one
of the oldest members.
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But he died a month
or so before Eddie.
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Died? How?
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Pub fight.
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Someone hit him a bit too hard
over the head and he never woke up.
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Eddie must have been
a bit upset about that.
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Yeah, he was, he was gutted.
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Who was spike
fighting with? No idea.
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Look, I'm sorry, I
can't be more helpful.
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I've got no idea what
happened to Eddie, I'm afraid.
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He was fine the
last time I saw him...
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I don't know what
else I can tell you.
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This is nicer than expected.
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You don't get one of these
selling motorcycle parts.
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Yeah, but she's not going to
admit to having an affair, is she? No.
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And the hotel has no records of
either Karen Chapman or Marcus York
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booking a room for the night that Stephanie says
she saw them. They could have used false names.
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Or they were never
there in the first place...
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Even if she does
admit to having an affair,
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that's not going to
prove anything, is it? No.
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Then why are we here then?
I'm not expecting answers, Gerry.
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I just want to see her
reaction to the questions.
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Karen Chapman?
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Detective super... I don't
want to know your names.
222
00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,599
We'd like five minutes of
your time. May we come in?
223
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Not unless you've got a warrant.
224
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,319
We're looking into the
murder of your husband. Why?
225
00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,839
Because it was never solved. Not
as far as anyone else is concerned.
226
00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,199
It's common knowledge who
killed Eddie. The dartford strays?
227
00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,799
We're looking into other
possibilities. Such as?
228
00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,199
We understand that you're in a
relationship with Marcus York now.
229
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,759
Yeah, well, that's
none of your business.
230
00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,239
Depending on when that relationship
started, it might be our business.
231
00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,239
Who's been pulling your chain?
232
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,359
When did the relationship start?
233
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A couple of months after Eddie was
murdered by those bastards in dartford.
234
00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,680
Gonna call me a liar?
235
00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:01,880
Then we're done, aren't we?
236
00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,119
Just explain to me how that
woman had two men in her life.
237
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,439
Well, she probably
has one as a spare
238
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for after she's
eaten the other one.
239
00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,719
I'd rather be playing
golf... Door opens
240
00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,960
oh, here she is...
241
00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,519
Hello, Sandra. Stuart Barlow!
My god, what a blast from the past!
242
00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,839
How are you?
243
00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,079
Do you know Gerry
standing? This is...
244
00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,159
What do I call you now? Detective
superintendent. Detective superintendent Barlow.
245
00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,119
Stuart. Hiya. We were at hendon
together. Ah. Thick as thieves.
246
00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,359
You worked under Jack
for a while, didn't you?
247
00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,239
In the dim and distant past. Mr hal...
Jack... Taught me everything I know.
248
00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,719
It's a wonder you're
not still in uniform, then.
249
00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,559
Have you met Brian
Lane? Briefly, yeah.
250
00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,039
The legendary ucos team. Hardly.
251
00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,719
Where are you now?
Organised crime.
252
00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,559
Ah, so this isn't a social
visit then. Well, it's both.
253
00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:57,039
Shall we do the work
bit first? Yeah, sure.
254
00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,080
Er...
255
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,239
The Eddie Chapman case,
Sandra. Yeah. Is it going anywhere?
256
00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,559
We only got it this
morning, from a walk-in.
257
00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,239
Who? Stephanie parr.
258
00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,559
She's the daughter of David parr -
Eddie Chapman's business partner.
259
00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:19,159
Did she have anything?
Nothing concrete, no. Ok.
260
00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,439
We're going to have to drop
this one, I'm afraid. Why?
261
00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,839
It's been red-flagged. We're
treading on toes. The braves.
262
00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,239
My lot have been working
on them for a few years
263
00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,879
and we're just starting now to get
some evidence. Drug trafficking?
264
00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,119
Yeah. Joint operations with
the Dutch and Swedish police.
265
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,559
We're uncovering their
European connections
266
00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,679
and ties to other gangs in the
Netherlands and scandinavia.
267
00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,759
It's a whole network of organised
crime. It's a big one for us.
268
00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,359
For me, personally. Are you
close? We're very close, very close.
269
00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,759
It's been a slog, getting any
inside information on these gangs
270
00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,799
is nigh on impossible, but
we're just starting... ok, ok.
271
00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,959
What?
272
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,839
Well, she took quite a big
risk coming in to see us.
273
00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,079
Well, you said she
didn't have any evidence.
274
00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,039
No, I said she had
nothing concrete.
275
00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,439
Then tell her you couldn't
corroborate her story.
276
00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,919
I'm sorry, Sandra, but we can't
compromise Stuart's operation. Of course.
277
00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,759
This gang is incredibly jumpy. A police
presence now, even if it is just ucos,
278
00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,719
it could spook them into quietening down their
operations just when we're getting ready...
279
00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,159
Look, she only walked in this morning. I'll tell
her we don't have the resources. It's no big deal.
280
00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,399
Thank you, Sandra. Good
luck, Stuart. Thank you, sir.
281
00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,639
I said I'd hook up with Jack later
for a drink. You up for sinking a few?
282
00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,919
Nah, I've got some
stuff to take care of.
283
00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,439
All right, what did I say?
284
00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,519
You said "just ucos". Ah.
285
00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,639
You said the braves would be spooked by a
police presence, even if it was "just ucos".
286
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,919
I meant as opposed to
a full-on murder enquiry.
287
00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,879
No, that's not what you meant.
That's not what I meant... so?
288
00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,239
You shot a dog. By accident.
What was it seven, eight years ago?
289
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,719
This is the longest anyone's ever
spent on the naughty step, isn't it?
290
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,959
They're a good team.
It's a remarkable team.
291
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,359
The clean-up rate is through the
roof and those three guys are legends.
292
00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,720
If you were anybody else, I'd be
shaking your hand, saying, "good job."
293
00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,119
It's none of my business. Ignore
me. We lost touch, people change.
294
00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,599
I didn't mean to cause offence back there, really.
It's just nice to see you again. Changed how?
295
00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,199
Seriously, forget it. Let me buy
you a drink. You think I've changed?
296
00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,039
I just strolled in there and
pulled your team off a case.
297
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,399
Sandra Pullman I
trained with would never...
298
00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,879
We don't really have a case!
299
00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,319
We only got it this morning,
we don't have anything!
300
00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,080
That's fine then! And if it jeopardises
an existing operation, then...
301
00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,639
I don't think I've changed. Ok.
302
00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,159
No, it's not ok! It feels like you've settled.
Ah. We don't need to have this conversation.
303
00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,519
I'm not doing the "really important work"?
Sandra. What's an unsolved murder here or there
304
00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:46,000
when I should be out battling the European drug cartels
single-handed? Ok, that's really not what I meant.
305
00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,959
There are people out there
at the sharp end, people who,
306
00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,119
on their very best day, are
nowhere near as good as you.
307
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,199
And instead of
being out in the front,
308
00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,640
you're sitting in a basement
cleaning up their mess.
309
00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,639
Shall we take the stairs? Hmm.
310
00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,719
So you and Barlow go all the
way back to hendon, eh? Yeah.
311
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,719
Any... history?
312
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,039
No. Ok. Why do you think that?
313
00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,519
Well, it was just that Brian
was saying it's not like you
314
00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,599
to give up a case
without a fight.
315
00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,639
Organised crime have been
onto this for three years, Gerry.
316
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,679
If we went barging in looking for Eddie
Chapman's killer... Yeah, yeah, I know.
317
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,799
So you lot think I agreed to this
because Stuart Barlow and I...
318
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,759
No, no of course not.
319
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,999
Ucos doesn't go after people
like Marcus York. Since when?
320
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,039
We don't have the manpower,
the resources, or the expertise.
321
00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,479
Let's just get this over with.
322
00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,879
We'll tell Stephanie there's not
enough evidence to support her case
323
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,199
and then we'll go to the
office, put the kettle on
324
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,439
and blow the dust off another case
from the who bloody cares? File.
325
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,679
What, like murder, you mean?
326
00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,079
Somebody's dead child or... shh!
327
00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,480
Knocks on the door Stephanie?
328
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,760
Stephanie, police.
329
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,120
Well, she's alive.
330
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,360
Ok, thank you.
331
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,559
She'll be ok. Scarred
for life, they think, but ok.
332
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,119
The way she was attacked,
she must have seen who it was.
333
00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,039
She's not saying.
She won't speak to us.
334
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,199
Well whoever it was had
the desired effect, didn't they?
335
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,839
Forensics might come up
with something from her flat.
336
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,239
Active investigation, so whatever
they find is none of our business.
337
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,999
Except where it crosses over
with the Eddie Chapman case.
338
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,240
Whoever attacked Stephanie must have... Brian,
we've dropped the Eddie Chapman case, remember?
339
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,999
Didn't we have this conversation? Yeah, we
did. But then someone attacked Stephanie parr
340
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,359
and now we have to have the Eddie
Chapman case. Stephanie comes to us
341
00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:12,919
and alleges that Marcus
York killed Eddie Chapman.
342
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,479
We asked questions and then someone
attacked her. If we drop the case now...
343
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,719
The braves'll realise
you've been called off.
344
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,639
They'll know something's up
and batten down the hatches.
345
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,199
Ucos will stick to the
Eddie Chapman murder.
346
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,879
They won't look at the drugs
or any of the organised crime.
347
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,839
And if those aspects
cross into your case?
348
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,679
Are we working on the theory
that York killed Chapman
349
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,359
because Chapman found out York was sleeping with
his wife? Yes. There shouldn't be any crossover.
350
00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:40,119
His web's more tangled. And we're not
capable of navigating the murky waters
351
00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:44,639
of organised crime... of course, I'm just
concerned... So stay and help them out.
352
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,839
Excuse me? Sir, I don't think...
353
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,439
I'm sure the team would benefit
from your knowledge of the braves
354
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,359
and you can steer them clear of any lines
of enquiry that could cause you trouble.
355
00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,639
You ok with that,
Sandra? He mouths
356
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,999
it's a great idea.
357
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,880
Excellent, I'll square it with your dac,
Stuart. Welcome to ucos. Thank you, sir.
358
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,719
What, this is funny, is it?
359
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,000
Don't worry,
you'll fit right in!
360
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,679
The attack on Stephanie
parr is an active investigation.
361
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,319
Our job is to investigate
Stephanie's assertion
362
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,479
that Marcus York
killed Eddie Chapman.
363
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,159
And we still don't have
any evidence for that.
364
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,719
Milk and sugar, Stuart? Er,
milk, one sugar. Thank you.
365
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,559
Stephanie parr's in a hospital
bed because she came to see us.
366
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,159
So somebody must have been
worried about what she'd said.
367
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,519
But who? And who even
knew that she came to see us?
368
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,799
As Sandra says, that's not the
focus of the ucos investigation.
369
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,239
What happened to Stephanie is
as likely to be punishment for her
370
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,999
talking to the police as it
is an attempt to shut her up.
371
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,159
Thank you. I don't
think you can assume
372
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,799
that she's got any more useful information
to give you regarding the Chapman case.
373
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,879
Which brings us back to the
fact that we still have no evidence.
374
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,040
So who's to say that Chapman wasn't
killed by this rival gang in dartford?
375
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,360
What?
376
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,999
Nothing. No, no. If you've got
something that will help our case...
377
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,319
Chapman wasn't killed by
anyone from the dartford gang.
378
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,879
How do you know that?
379
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,519
And why did the original
investigation conclude...
380
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,199
Kent police have got an informant in the
dartford gang. He's well placed and reliable
381
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,359
and he swears blind that Chapman's
death had nothing to do with them.
382
00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:27,319
(Thanks, lads.) That didn't
go to the original investigation
383
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,359
because the informant's
existence needs to be kept secret.
384
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:34,559
Which means that information doesn't leave
this room. So what else are you not telling us?
385
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,079
A staggering amount. None
of it relevant to Chapman.
386
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,799
And you're the best judge of that,
are you? I'm going to have to be.
387
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,079
Come to me with a
question, I'll try to answer it.
388
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,159
But I can't just volunteer information that
might jeopardise what my team are doing.
389
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,519
So what can you tell us? I can tell
you that you should stop worrying about
390
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,439
poor, innocent little Reese
Chapman turning to the dark side.
391
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,159
That happened seven
years ago, when he was 14
392
00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,399
and he stabbed a youth worker three times
with a screwdriver. That's not in the file...
393
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,919
Not in his file. He was never charged
because mummy and daddy got involved
394
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,919
and suddenly the youth worker
couldn't remember who'd attacked him.
395
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,239
Two years ago Reese, and two other
members of the braves, Carl butcher,
396
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,679
Gary wood, kicked a member of a
rival gang into a coma at a music festival,
397
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,679
in broad daylight in the middle of
a group and no-one saw a thing.
398
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,639
Well, David parr did tell us
399
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,239
that Reese Chapman had
been a tearaway in his youth,
400
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,239
but as far as he knew,
he's a changed man now.
401
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,359
Really?
402
00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:32,719
Let us be under no illusions here.
Eddie Chapman was an animal.
403
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,999
So's his kid. No-one
on this board is innocent,
404
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,039
none of them are
going to tell you the truth
405
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,559
and not one of them would think twice about
sticking a knife in your guts if they feel cornered.
406
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,680
Great. Can't wait to meet them.
407
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,079
Not the most salubrious
criminal headquarters, is it?
408
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,239
The king's head is
just round the corner.
409
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,079
Jack! No, that's the place where
this spike worsley was killed.
410
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,639
Eddie Chapman's friend? Well,
David parr said they were close.
411
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,239
So? So, the pub where it
happened is just around that corner.
412
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,159
It must be their local. Of
course, there were no witnesses,
413
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,919
but it was assumed that worsley
was attacked by a rival gang.
414
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,399
In their local pub? Well,
just outside, in the car park.
415
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,119
But it doesn't seem likely, does it? If he was
attacked by a rival gang outside... that's gang war.
416
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,279
There would have been more
than one casualty. Interesting.
417
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,599
Oh! Here we go.
Well, that's York.
418
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,759
Who's that with him?
419
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,359
That is... Jason Knowles,
vice president of the club.
420
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,479
Previous for armed
robbery and assault.
421
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,200
Oh, there he is. Yeah, let's go.
422
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,480
Reese Chapman?
423
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,919
Detective superintendent Pullman, this
is Jack halford. We'd like a word with you.
424
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,119
You don't have to talk to these people,
Reese. And you are? You know exactly who I am.
425
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,999
Marcus York and Jason Knowles.
426
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,520
That's better. See, he's
not trying to bullshit anyone.
427
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,719
You're the one who harassed my friend
yesterday. She thought that was harassment?
428
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,919
We'd like to ask Reese a few
questions about his father's death.
429
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,479
He doesn't have to talk to you.
430
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,840
No. But he can make his own mind
up, he doesn't need your permission.
431
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,560
Take them up to the office.
432
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,040
You'll make up the time, though.
433
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:44,240
Don't trust these
people, Reese. All right?
434
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,479
Not sitting at Stephanie's
bedside, then?
435
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,159
Poor girl has 17 stitches in her face.
They're feeding her through a straw.
436
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,960
Nice boyfriend you are. She
won't see me. I don't blame her.
437
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:06,959
It's not my fault
she's there. No?
438
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,039
Whose fault is it, then?
439
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,039
Where were you on the
night that your dad was killed?
440
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,479
I was at a party. Where?
441
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,879
Here. There's some sofas over at the
back. We hang out here. Who else was here?
442
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,719
A bunch of the guys.
Marcus and Jason.
443
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,919
Jason Knowles, the ex-armed
robber? What time did you leave? I didn't.
444
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,159
I passed out on the floor, woke up
the next morning. Too much cider?
445
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,839
That's funny. I don't
know what I was drinking.
446
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,919
Knocked me out, though. Did
your dad try to reach you that night?
447
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,119
Yeah. I saw the missed
calls in the morning,
448
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,519
but by then it was too late.
449
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,639
So, who do you think
killed him, Reese?
450
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,039
I don't know. But you
think you know, don't you?
451
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,719
It wasn't a rival gang.
You can take that from us.
452
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,280
And why would I do that?
453
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,199
Your mum's in a relationship with
Marcus York now, isn't she? Yeah.
454
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,039
When did that start? A
couple of months after dad died.
455
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,560
You sure about
that? Yes, I'm sure.
456
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,679
When you woke up, after that
party, was Marcus York still there?
457
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,839
No, he'd gone home.
Did you see him leave?
458
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,279
I didn't see anything. I
told you - I passed out.
459
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359
All right. Thanks very much.
460
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,840
That's it? We'll be in touch.
461
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,559
Is the king's head
your local? Yeah.
462
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,319
Spike worsley was killed
there. Did you know him?
463
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,799
Yeah. Do you know
who killed him? No.
464
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,599
Someone is attacked
outside the pub
465
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,839
and there must have
been other people there?
466
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,879
No-one saw a thing.
What a surprise!
467
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,919
We were wondering if there's a connection
between that and your father's death.
468
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,199
What are you trying to say? I'm
sorry? What you saying about my dad?
469
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,879
You trying to say he was one of your
lot? Are you saying he was like worsley?
470
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,760
Reese... what do you
mean, "one of our lot"?
471
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,879
I think your 15 minutes
is up, don't you?
472
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,119
Did you know spike worsley,
mr Knowles? Never heard of him.
473
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,919
Really? That's odd, because
he was a member of your gang.
474
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,440
Is that right?
475
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,160
Sounds to me like he
was a member of yours.
476
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,919
Do you think Sandra's being
a bit weird at the moment?
477
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,079
Brian?
478
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,599
Brian! Hmm?
479
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,559
I said, "do you think Sandra's
being a bit weird at the moment?"
480
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,479
What if we're on
the wrong track?
481
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,519
I'm better off
talking to myself.
482
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,879
What if Karen Chapman's
affair with Marcus York
483
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,839
had nothing to do with Eddie Chapman's death?
What are you looking at? This spike worsley,
484
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,799
Eddie Chapman's mate who was killed a few
months before Chapman. Yeah, in the pub.
485
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,559
But David parr told me and Jack that
he didn't know anything about it. So?
486
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,240
He's on the witness list. He
was there when it happened.
487
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,119
Ah, mr parr. This is
Gerry standing. Hello.
488
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,599
How's Stephanie
doing? I can't talk to you.
489
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,239
You said you didn't know what
happened to spike worsley. Spike?
490
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,799
What's this got to do with him? You
were with him the night he was killed.
491
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,919
He left before me. I don't know what happened
to him. He was killed in the car park outside.
492
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,679
You must have walked past
him on your way out. It was dark.
493
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,519
Who else was there?
I don't remember.
494
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,519
Come on! You can do
better than that. No! I can't.
495
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,319
You see, the official version is
that he was killed by a rival gang.
496
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,759
Much like Eddie Chapman.
497
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,359
But, if that's the case, then surely
there would have been retribution.
498
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:37,119
Which there wasn't. So maybe it
wasn't a rival gang. I don't know.
499
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,519
There's an awful lot you
don't know, isn't there?
500
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,759
You don't know who killed Eddie,
you don't know who killed spike,
501
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,519
you don't even know who cut your daughter's
face to ribbons. I'm going inside.
502
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,199
You know. You're just too
scared to talk. I'll say something.
503
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,759
You did this. My little girl's in there
because she came to you in confidence.
504
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,200
And this is how
you kept her safe.
505
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,599
I'm going back to
see my daughter.
506
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,560
You leave me
alone - both of you!
507
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Anything I can help you with?
508
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,840
Do you think the murder of spike
worsley is related to this somehow?
509
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,279
Hello? Hmm?
510
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,840
Spike worsley.
511
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,639
I don't know.
512
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,040
If there is a connection, I can't see it yet.
Do you think I'm the youngest person in here?
513
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,080
Yes.
514
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,239
Jack, do you think
I'm wasted at ucos?
515
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480
What kind of a question is that?
516
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,279
A stupid one. Ignore me.
517
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,199
Thank you. Cheers.
518
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,839
I'll have yours. No, you won't.
You're not allowed it. No! Give it back.
519
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,599
Tell him to give me my drink
back. Give him his drink back.
520
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,360
He just said I was the brawn of
the operation. He was being kind.
521
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,319
There's not a large vodka and
tonic, is there? I'll get you one.
522
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,439
It's all right, I'll put it on
the tab. I'll come with you.
523
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,439
A large one, a
bit strong, isn't it?
524
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,919
How did it go today?
525
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,239
Double vodka and tonic.
Ice and lime. Thanks.
526
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,959
Well remembered. Some
people don't change.
527
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,159
He laughs
528
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,919
was spike worsley
an informant? No.
529
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,159
If that's something you don't think we
need to know. No, he wasn't a snout.
530
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,360
It looks like he was killed
because the braves thought he was.
531
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,999
A couple of years ago, customs
raided a boat coming in from Rotterdam.
532
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,439
They discovered £2
million worth of cocaine.
533
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,119
Being brought in by the braves? Yes, although,
as usual, we couldn't prove a link to them.
534
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,719
The bust was blind luck, it
was just a random search,
535
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,239
but the braves got it into their head that someone
had grassed them up. On the strength of one bust?
536
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,879
Marcus York has become
very paranoid in his old age.
537
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,879
He started a witch hunt.
538
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,959
And the finger got pointed
at spike worsley? So it seems.
539
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Like I say, it wasn't him, it was just a random
bust. Do you think Marcus York killed him?
540
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,039
The order could have come from York, but
it's unlikely he would have done it himself.
541
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,079
Spike worsley was one of
Eddie Chapman's oldest friends.
542
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,159
He must have been pretty
certain that spike wasn't a grass.
543
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,199
What if he confronted Marcus
York and things got out of hand?
544
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,119
This is their equivalent of a court
of law. The president's word is final.
545
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,360
Eddie might not have liked it,
but he wouldn't have got in the way.
546
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,919
Wait a minute. The shipment that
was seized was from Rotterdam?
547
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,359
What was the
shipment disguised as?
548
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,719
It was motorcycle parts, wasn't
it? This is so far out of your remit.
549
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,079
Eddie Chapman and David parr
were smuggling drugs from Rotterdam
550
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,799
for the braves. Why didn't they get done on that bust?
Cos they're smart. The paperwork goes round in circles.
551
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,639
Yeah, and you didn't push it because
you didn't want to blow your operation.
552
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,359
You can't use this information.
You can't even admit that you know it.
553
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,399
You are joking? It's not
relevant to your case.
554
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,639
Eddie got murdered hours
after getting back from Rotterdam,
555
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,879
where, presumably, he was organising a
drug shipment. How is that not relevant?
556
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,839
If Eddie was killed because of some kind of double-cross
over drugs, York would have killed parr too.
557
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,439
But he didn't, David parr
is still very much alive.
558
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,360
Yeah, and still bringing
in the drugs? Yup.
559
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,199
You've got to investigate this case, for appearance's
sake now that Stephanie parr is in hospital.
560
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,120
But... but we'll never get enough
on Marcus York to make an arrest.
561
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Not in a million years!
562
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Are we the youngest
people in this pub?
563
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,079
Morning. Morning. Forensics
from Stephanie parr's flat.
564
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,799
Not our case, Gerry. But
it tells us who attacked her.
565
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,559
Although there's no way to prove it. Well, that
doesn't surprise me. All right, let's hear it.
566
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,679
Ah, there's a ton of fingerprints and hair
samples all over the place, David parr, obviously,
567
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,039
Reese Chapman, Karen Chapman,
Marcus York, Jason Knowles, Carl b...
568
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,999
Basically anyone who was in the braves.
They even found a partial of Eddie Chapman.
569
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,639
Which tells you something about
Stephanie's housekeeping. So?
570
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:23,039
Well, whoever cut Stephanie's face grabbed
a handful of hair to keep her head steady.
571
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,559
They found flakes of
nail varnish in her scalp.
572
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,120
What colour?
573
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,839
Nice varnish. Thanks. Same colour
we found in Stephanie parr's hair.
574
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,039
It's a very common brand.
Yes, but not one she uses.
575
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,079
Never say never. She'll need
all the help she can get now.
576
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,719
We know it was you.
577
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,959
I don't know what
you're talking about.
578
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,200
Who told you Stephanie
came to see us?
579
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,439
I'd call my lawyer, but he's very expensive
and I don't think you're worth it.
580
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,919
Unless Stephanie parr talks.
Is that likely, do you think?
581
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,199
What'll your son say when he
finds out you did that to his girlfriend?
582
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,119
Ex-girlfriend, I suspect. She's not going
to stick around now the going's got tough.
583
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:12,239
You've just done a very stupid thing. This case
was hanging by a thread, I was going to walk away.
584
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:16,840
Call your lawyer and tell him he's about to make
a lot of money out of you and your boyfriend.
585
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,039
We haven't got anything. I know
we don't have anything, Jack.
586
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,799
So that was an idle threat you just made to Karen
Chapman. We need to find something, don't we?
587
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,799
That's the same problem that everyone's
had when they tried to Nick Marcus York.
588
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,799
The bloke's made out of teflon. We can't
tie him into the murder of spike worsley,
589
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,519
we can't prove Karen Chapman
attacked Stephanie parr.
590
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,319
We can't use what we know about David
parr's drug smuggling, to make him talk,
591
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,119
because we can't let
him know we know.
592
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,359
Yeah, that's all stick, though. Maybe we
need a bit of carrot. What do you mean?
593
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,679
Well, nobody'll talk because they're
scared of what the braves will do to them.
594
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,119
We need someone who stands to gain
by Marcus York being put behind bars.
595
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,719
Thanks for coming in, mr
Knowles, however reluctantly.
596
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,839
As you know, we're investigating
the murder of Eddie Chapman.
597
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Yeah, we understand you were at a party the
night Eddie Chapman was murdered. Is that right?
598
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,480
Reese Chapman was
there and Marcus York.
599
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,439
This conversation
isn't being recorded.
600
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,360
We think Marcus York
killed Eddie Chapman.
601
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,239
Marcus was having an affair with
Karen Chapman. Did you know that?
602
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:32,479
We think that Eddie found out about it,
confronted him and then Marcus killed him.
603
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,479
That couldn't have happened if Marcus
York was at a party with you at the time.
604
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,320
But if he wasn't
there, or if he left early.
605
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,759
Ucos doesn't care what you've
done, or might do in the future.
606
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,479
We're only interested in the
murder of Eddie Chapman.
607
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,719
And if Marcus York gets nicked for it,
leaves a vacancy at the top, doesn't it?
608
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:56,080
You are
vice-president after all.
609
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,919
Are you really that loyal
to a man like Marcus York?
610
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,919
Are you really that happy to take orders
from him when you could be running the show?
611
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,439
Maybe you're just scared of what might happen if
someone finds out that you talked to the police.
612
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,679
Is that it? Of course, no-one
knows what's happening in this room.
613
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,319
Who's to say you're
not spilling your guts?
614
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,639
Yeah, and if a rumour like that gets
out, you could end up like Stephanie parr.
615
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,320
Or spike worsley.
616
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,159
Honestly, I've never
seen anything like it.
617
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,159
Everyone says something,
eventually, don't they? Apparently not.
618
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,119
So where does that leave us?
619
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,360
Can I have a word?
620
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,439
Jason Knowles. What about him? You brought
him in. You didn't think to check with me?
621
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,159
He's being interviewed in our investigation.
The vice-president of the braves.
622
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,359
He was at the party Marcus York claimed to
be at on the night Eddie Chapman was killed.
623
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,079
How did you know we were talking to Knowles?
He started a fight with some uniforms
624
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,839
when you tried to arrest him. I'm
surprised it wasn't on the bloody news!
625
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,959
That doesn't give you the right to come in
here shouting. We're treading a fine line here.
626
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,839
I'm trying to give you leeway.
Not treading on your toes.
627
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,479
I'm just saying if you want
to... No, no, no, I'm not stupid.
628
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,160
I know what the boundaries are
and I'm not treading on your toes.
629
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,480
Stuart?
630
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,240
Why haven't you asked what
Jason Knowles said to us?
631
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,440
It's cos you already
know, isn't it?
632
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,040
And that's why he's back on the streets
five hours after assaulting three coppers.
633
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,959
The vice-president of the
braves is a police informant.
634
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,799
Jason Knowles? Bloody hell.
635
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,519
He picked up the phone as soon as he was released
and told Stuart that Marcus York left the party
636
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,639
just after ten o'clock
and didn't come back in.
637
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,479
Well, that blows York's
alibi out the window.
638
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,839
We can't use that without
compromising Knowles, can we?
639
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,839
No, we need to get it from someone
else. Who? Reese Chapman.
640
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,119
How will you get it from him? We'll tell
him everything we know. That's dangerous.
641
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,999
If it doesn't work, we'll be letting a
very angry young man walk out of here.
642
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,079
Then it had better work, Jack.
643
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,040
It was your mother who attacked
Stephanie and cut her face.
644
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,119
That bit of news hadn't got to you, I'm surprised.
She doesn't seem too bothered about hiding it.
645
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,439
And she said you'd be on
her side. I'm not talking to you.
646
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,079
You are, cos I'm not playing
that game again today.
647
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,599
Have you any idea why she might
have done that to Stephanie, Reese?
648
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,239
Stephanie said that she saw your mum
and Marcus York, coming out of a hotel room
649
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,279
in the middle of the
night. The two of them.
650
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,519
A month before your father was
killed. What do you think that means?
651
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,439
That's not true. Really?
So Stephanie's lying? Wow!
652
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,599
She took quite a big risk
coming here just to tell us a lie.
653
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,479
And she paid for it. She certainly did,
when someone told your mother about it.
654
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,999
I wonder why it was such a big
deal? People have affairs all the time.
655
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,319
Yeah, after it came out, your
father was no longer around, anyway.
656
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,999
Unless it came
out before. Before?
657
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,039
You think Eddie could have found out? Maybe
that's what he was talking about that night.
658
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,519
What night? The night he died.
659
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,519
Stephanie said that he came round
to her flat, looking for you, Reese.
660
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,679
She said he was angry, upset and
kept muttering about loyalty and...
661
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,719
What was the other thing?
Betrayal? Betrayal. Yeah, that's right.
662
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,199
He needed to talk to you about
something. Something important.
663
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,279
That's why he kept calling.
664
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,919
But you were at a party
and couldn't hear your phone.
665
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,159
So he wandered out into the night,
your dad. Angry, drunk, confused.
666
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,559
Betrayed. And that was
the last anyone saw of him.
667
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,240
Well, almost anyone. That's
true. One person saw him after that.
668
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,319
Marcus York was at that
party with you, wasn't he?
669
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,119
Yeah. Was he? Yes.
All night? I passed out.
670
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,679
But up to that point
Marcus York was with you?
671
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,799
He went out to get some
air. What time? I don't know.
672
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,199
He just went outside for a few minutes. A minute?
Five minutes? How long? I don't know. A few minutes.
673
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,879
I went out there, I saw him leaning against the wall.
He looked rough, he said he just needed some air.
674
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,159
Did you see him come back in?
675
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239
I went in, he said he'd
be right behind me.
676
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:51,960
Reese? Think. Did Marcus
York come back into that party?
677
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,999
No.
678
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,559
Loud music
679
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,599
Marcus, leave him alone!
680
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,639
Get off your hands off
him. Get your hands off him!
681
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Get your hands off him! Marcus!
682
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,960
Get off me! Get off me!
683
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,159
I went outside for some air.
Because you were feeling ill. Yeah.
684
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,759
How long were you outside?
I don't know. A few minutes.
685
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,719
And then you went back in, did you?
Yeah. Did anyone see you go back in?
686
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:34,039
Who did you talk to? I don't
know. It was a party. I was drunk.
687
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,479
We spoke to someone else at the party who
said you didn't go back inside. Who was that?
688
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,240
That's not important.
689
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,039
Young Reese been
telling tales, has he?
690
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,639
When did your relationship with Karen Chapman
start? You want dates and times? I don't know.
691
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,959
Was it before or after
Eddie was killed? After.
692
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,239
But you were seen at a hotel
together a month before he died.
693
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,359
Another one of your mystery
witnesses? Look at his hand.
694
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,719
What is that? I don't know.
695
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,439
Eddie Chapman found
out about it, didn't he?
696
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,599
I need a glass of water. Did he confront you?
We know he was angry and he'd been drinking.
697
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,759
It makes sense that he could have been
the aggressor. Was it self-defence? Water.
698
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,399
What happened? Nothing! Eddie
Chapman confronted you about the affair,
699
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,399
you were both drunk and it turned
violent. Who threw the first punch? No-one!
700
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,839
Piss off.
701
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Alarm blares
702
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,879
what's wrong with him?
703
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Call an ambulance!
704
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,319
His hand was trembling
in the interview.
705
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,439
It was doing the same thing when
we met him at that motorbike place.
706
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,119
That's got to be a
neurological thing, hasn't it?
707
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,679
What's the betting his
lawyer tries to blame it on us?
708
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:49,080
He's upstairs having his jaw wired up, so we
don't have to worry about him for a while.
709
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,599
You're never going to believe
this. Ms. Multiple sclerosis?
710
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,039
He was diagnosed about 18 months ago. It may not
be fatal, but it's getting progressively worse.
711
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,639
Did anybody know? Yeah, and
this is the real kick in the teeth.
712
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,679
Karen Chapman brought Marcus
York into whittington hospital a&e
713
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,039
at 10.37pm on 20th
December 2009.
714
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,879
The 20th? The night
Eddie Chapman was killed.
715
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,879
According to a medical report, York had been
at a party and gone outside for some air.
716
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,079
He was feeling a bit light-headed and realised
he was in the early stages of a seizure,
717
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,919
similar to the one that we've just witnessed. He called
up Karen and got her to take him to the hospital.
718
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,199
That's why he didn't
go back into the party.
719
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,159
The reason he claimed he had is because he didn't
want anybody to find out where he really was.
720
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:40,359
I don't suppose there's any chance that afterwards...
no, he was kept in overnight and Karen was with him.
721
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680
And that's his real alibi. And it's
watertight. We've been after the wrong guy.
722
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:47,639
It's not the end of the
world. Thank you, Gerry.
723
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,519
Someone killed Chapman.
Just not Marcus York.
724
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,199
How can the pieces fit together so well
and yet the picture they make is so wrong?
725
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,319
We were probably punching above our weight
going after Marcus York in the first place.
726
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,320
Let Barlow's lot deal with him.
727
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,479
What? Punching above
our weight? Yeah. Well, no...
728
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,920
What I mean is, if...
729
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,040
Sandra? See you in the morning.
730
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,079
What was that about?
731
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,279
As if I ever know the
answer to that question.
732
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,680
Sandra?
733
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,639
Stuart told me that all I'm doing is cleaning up the
mess left by detectives who aren't as good as me.
734
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,679
Well, that's not true. No? No.
735
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,239
Sometimes we clear up the mess left
by detectives who are better than you.
736
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:50,919
Everybody makes mistakes. And
we clean them up. When we can.
737
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,599
I should be out there, Jack. Doing
something important? No, that's...
738
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,879
Look, I don't give a stuff what Stuart
Barlow or anybody else thinks about ucos
739
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,799
but giving unsolved cases
another go round is important.
740
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,359
If you want to leave because it
isn't exciting or glamorous enough...
741
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,959
I'm not saying that. Or you're bored
to death with three retired detectives
742
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,439
who moan about everything and
drink tea all day long, fair enough.
743
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,320
But don't think
for one second...
744
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,880
You are a good detective, Sandra,
but nobody is too good for this job.
745
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,079
Where are you two going?
Home. Pub. Coming?
746
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,959
No, I'm not and neither are you. We're
going to work out who killed Eddie Chapman.
747
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,039
You're not serious?
Yes, I'm serious.
748
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040
Punching above our weight,
are we? We'll see about that!
749
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:47,119
Hi, Stuart, it's Sandra Pullman. I just wanted
you to know we've struck out on the Chapman case.
750
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,999
We're going to drop it,
so it's over to you now.
751
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,120
Give me a call if you
want. Ok, cheers. Bye.
752
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,599
This is on you.
753
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,240
Look what they did to me.
754
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,159
Now it's your turn.
755
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,879
Jack, this is ridiculous.
There is no evidence here.
756
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,239
It's not that there isn't any to be
found, it's just that we haven't found it.
757
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:27,479
Sandra was right, the pieces of
this puzzle fit together perfectly.
758
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,599
Everything points to Marcus York killing Eddie
Chapman, but we all know he couldn't have.
759
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:38,679
If he didn't, then York's affair with Karen Chapman
had nothing to do with Eddie Chapman's death. Yes.
760
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,519
So why did Karen attack
Stephanie because she told us?
761
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,119
Well, it's like Barlow
said, it's a punishment.
762
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,840
I mean, as far as this lot's concerned, you
just do not talk to the police, full stop.
763
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,280
Stephanie's lucky she
didn't, she didn't turn out like...
764
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,280
Like who? Like spike worsley!
765
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,759
He was killed because the braves
thought he was an informant. So?
766
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,479
Well, this is, what, a month
before Eddie Chapman died.
767
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,519
Remember the date? Yeah, the 17th
November, just around 11 o'clock at night.
768
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Have you got Stephanie's
statement? What have you got, Brian?
769
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:23,119
You remember Stephanie claimed she saw Marcus York
and Karen Chapman together in the hotel that night.
770
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,560
What's the date?
771
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:30,679
November the 17th, so Marcus York couldn't
have killed spike worsley either. No.
772
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,759
How can we be making progress by finding
more people that Marcus York didn't kill?
773
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,519
Because we shouldn't be looking for the
"who", Jack, we need to find out the "why".
774
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,839
Why was spike worsely killed? Because
the braves thought he was a snout.
775
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,239
But he wasn't. No, but
Jason Knowles was!
776
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,959
Now Eddie Chapman knew
that spike worsley was innocent,
777
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,119
so what if he set out on his
own to find the real informant?
778
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,559
What and found out it was Knowles? Yeah, and
that's why Chapman was lambing off at Stephanie
779
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,039
about loyalty and betrayal.
780
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,959
Maybe it was Knowles who pointed the
finger at spike worsley in the first place.
781
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,199
To divert suspicion
from himself.
782
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,639
Now, David parr was there
the night spike worsley died.
783
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,479
We need to find out what he saw and
what he heard. Right. Come on then.
784
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,119
Ok, Reese, you don't want to
do this. You destroyed my life.
785
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,239
No, I didn't. Your
father was murdered.
786
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,759
Your mother put your girlfriend in hospital and
looking at that acid burn where your tattoo was,
787
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,519
you've been thrown out the club. I don't care
about any of that. What, then? Stephanie?
788
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,839
Mobile rings
789
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,520
ignore it.
790
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,080
There goes the cavalry.
791
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,279
You're pointing a gun because your girlfriend won't
talk to you? She was the only thing that mattered.
792
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,879
Why aren't you at the hospital telling
her that? Because she won't even see me.
793
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Can you blame her?
794
00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:02,559
No. No, I blame you. You were
supposed to protect her. And I did.
795
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,879
I don't know how her name got out and I'm sorry. Let's
not forget it was your mother that put her in hospital.
796
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,959
Reese. Reese, listen,
put the gun down.
797
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,879
You've got a bad chemical burn on your
arm, let me get you medical attention. No.
798
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,320
Put the gun down and we'll step
outside, take a few breaths, and...
799
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,160
You went outside! What
are you talking about?
800
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,319
At the party. I don't care about
any of that. Yes, yes, you do.
801
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,439
You said that you saw Marcus
York when you went outside. Yeah.
802
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,479
Why did you go outside? Is this really how
you want to spend your last few seconds?
803
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,559
It was noisy, there
was music playing. So?
804
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,879
You said your father tried to call but
didn't get through. That wasn't true, was it?
805
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,679
You went outside to take
the call. You spoke to him.
806
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,959
Why didn't you tell us?
807
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,800
Because we don't talk
to cops. Oh, grow up!
808
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,200
What did he say?
809
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,839
He wasn't making any
sense. What did he say?
810
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,439
He was drunk, he was raving. He kept saying
it wasn't spike, over and over again.
811
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,719
He said he knew who it was.
He knew who the informant was.
812
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:12,719
He said he wanted me to meet him, he said he needed
my help. I didn't help him. I thought he was...
813
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:19,159
It's my fault. My dad, Stephanie, I
didn't help them. I wasn't there for them.
814
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,360
I lost them both because
I didn't... Oh, stop whining!
815
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,319
How many more times?
I've got nothing to say to you.
816
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,479
Who killed spike worsley? I don't
know. Yes, you do. You were there.
817
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,519
He left before. No he didn't.
Who killed him, mr parr?
818
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,119
Was it Jason Knowles?
I've got nothing to say to you!
819
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,879
I just want to be with my daughter.
Dad? Get back into bed, Steph.
820
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,719
Why don't you
just leave us alone?
821
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:49,839
Well, if you won't talk to us, then
maybe you'll talk to the drugs squad.
822
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,039
We know you smuggle drugs
in from Rotterdam for the braves.
823
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:59,359
The paper trail's tricky to follow, but I'm
sure we could get there if we applied ourselves.
824
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,079
Dad? Go back
inside! Is that true?
825
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,919
Presumably it was Eddie
Chapman's idea originally.
826
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,839
Then, when he was killed, the braves wouldn't
have wanted to lose their arrangement.
827
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,760
So what did they threaten you
with? Kill you? Kill Stephanie?
828
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,440
Dad?
829
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:25,519
I want a lawyer. Listen, you talk to us
about spike worsley, you won't need one. No.
830
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,599
Whatever you threaten me
with, it's nothing compared to...
831
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,519
It was Karen Chapman who
attacked me. No, Stephanie!
832
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,799
I'll make a statement.
No! I'll stand up in court.
833
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,679
I want those animals
out of our lives.
834
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,999
And I want Reese to know what really happened
to his dad so he can get away from them.
835
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,520
I don't want us all to
be frightened any more.
836
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,720
Tell them what happened.
837
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Oh, right.
838
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,680
Knowles killed spike.
He was the grass.
839
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,039
He said he'd kill Stephanie
if anybody found out.
840
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,040
But Eddie did. Eddie
found out all about him.
841
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,839
And I warned Knowles,
to protect my daughter.
842
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,960
I got my best friend killed.
843
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:24,279
What's happened to you?
844
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,079
Reese Chapman happened.
Are you all right? Yeah, I'm fine.
845
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,759
He's not, though, I broke his nose.
He's upstairs making a statement.
846
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,239
Eddie Chapman was killed by
Jason Knowles. Yes, we know.
847
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:37,879
He killed spike worsley
too, under orders from York.
848
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,039
David parr saw it happen.
He'll make a statement.
849
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:47,159
I've been sitting here wondering what to do about
Knowles. I mean, he's committed two murders,
850
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,199
and yet if we Nick him then
Stuart loses his informant.
851
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,959
Two murders. It hardly puts him in the big league
as far as Marcus York and the like are concerned.
852
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,959
We can't get York, but
we can get Knowles.
853
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,439
And you're talking about letting
it go?! For the greater good. Is it?
854
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,159
Jack, the murder of two particularly nasty
gang members set against the possibility
855
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,119
that Knowles could help Barlow bring
down an entire criminal organisation.
856
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,799
And then what else do we
turn a blind eye to? Exactly.
857
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,959
No, I'm not taking sides here,
I'm just going round in circles.
858
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,759
When Barlow's lot move in, Knowles
will get done for the murders anyway.
859
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,799
He'll set them against all the information
he's provided and walk away scot free.
860
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,759
I still think that's a small price to pay to get
rid of the braves and their European contacts.
861
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,680
We need to get
strickland in on this.
862
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,200
How did you get
David parr to talk?
863
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,559
You didn't tell him we
know about the drugs?
864
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,560
Brian?
865
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,439
Christ, Brian. What
if it hadn't worked?
866
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,559
Parr could have gone straight to the braves
and Stuart's operation would be up the spout!
867
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,959
It is up the spout.
868
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:04,479
And the dilemma about whether we let Jason
Knowles off or not isn't a dilemma any more.
869
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,559
Well, what does that mean?
870
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:14,479
April 6th, 2001, Jason Knowles participated in an
armed robbery of a security Van in the old Kent road.
871
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,079
So? There was no such robbery.
872
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,199
It's on his file, Brian.
He's got a criminal record.
873
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,039
It didn't happen and neither did any
of these assaults he was charged with.
874
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:29,439
What are you talking about, Brian? They're all...
They're all on the record but they're not in here.
875
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,399
I have no memory of them.
So I've just been checking it out.
876
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:38,759
The judge who supposedly tried the armed robbery
case was presiding over a fraud trial at the time,
877
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,440
in a completely different court. Are you
saying that the records have been doctored?
878
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,479
Oh, no.
879
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,240
I think you do need
to talk to strickland.
880
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:56,479
I keep doing that and nothing happens. Click
on the icon. Which icon? That one, there.
881
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,919
Proper night owls, you lot, aren't
you? Yeah, yeah. That's us, yeah.
882
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,599
What's going on? Uh, I think
they're waiting for you, Stuart.
883
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,880
This can't be good.
884
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,960
Close the door, Stuart.
885
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,799
This looks serious.
886
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,799
Jason Knowles. What about him?
887
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,480
He killed Eddie Chapman.
888
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,279
No, he didn't. And he
killed spike worsley.
889
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,760
Look, Jack, please! We
have a witness. David parr.
890
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:41,759
David parr, the drug smuggler?
He's having you on. No.
891
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,079
It's not possible. Why not,
Stuart? It's just not possible.
892
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,879
It's not possible, because Jason
Knowles isn't merely an informant, is he?
893
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,560
He's an undercover
police officer.
894
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,719
You certain he did this? Yeah.
895
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:11,119
Following spike worsley's death, Eddie Chapman
discovered the truth about Jason Knowles.
896
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,759
How? That's what Chapman
was doing in Rotterdam.
897
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,999
Your joint operation with the
Dutch police. You share information.
898
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,320
Someone over there
leaked it or sold it.
899
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,439
Eddie told David parr
what he'd discovered.
900
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:31,159
Parr warned Knowles, because Knowles told him
he would kill Stephanie if anyone found out.
901
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,480
Did you know about this, Stuart?
902
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,160
No. No, I didn't.
903
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,600
I told Jason about Stephanie.
904
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,000
When she first came
to see you. I... Told him.
905
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,320
He was one of us.
906
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,159
At some point, I'm afraid,
he became one of them.
907
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,919
You understand that this means
your operation is fatally compromised.
908
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:09,319
Yeah. And there'll almost
certainly be an enquiry. Yeah.
909
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,959
No-one wants to believe you
had knowledge of any of this.
910
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,120
Happened on my watch,
though. Yes, yes, it did.
911
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Good job.
912
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,559
Yeah, cheers, mate. Ta-ra.
913
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,879
Karen Chapman was
arrested 20 minutes ago.
914
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,279
Apparently she went nuts, it took
five wooden tops to restrain her.
915
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,479
That's a happy ending of sorts.
Not for Stuart Barlow, it isn't.
916
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,559
Even the best of us
make mistakes, Sandra.
917
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,800
I'm just glad we were
here to clear up the mess!
918
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,999
♪ It's all right it's ok
919
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,599
♪ doesn't really matter
if you're old and grey
920
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,159
♪ it's all right, I say, it's ok
921
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,160
♪ listen to what I say
922
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,639
♪ it's all right,
you're doing fine
923
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,399
♪ it doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine
924
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,119
♪ it's all right, I say, it's ok
925
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,520
♪ we're getting to
the end of the day. ♪
88043
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