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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,680 Brian! 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,359 Well, say what you like about Bob ruxton, but he never kept you waiting. He was a good man. 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,119 Always had time for a chat... 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,439 Always bought a round... 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,959 The nights I've had on the hit and miss with him... 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,759 That kind of behaviour might account for his having been being suspended. 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,839 It's a hard thing for a man to be publicly pilloried, after a long and distinguished career... 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,439 He's not being pilloried Jack, he's facing charges of negligence and incompetence! 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,119 Nobody's perfect, Sandra. 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Superintendent Pullman. Shall we go through? Thank you. 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,639 So what have you got for us? Back in 2001, 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,639 dr ruxton found that Bernard Fletcher's fatal injuries 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,279 were consistent with a fall at his work place - the natural history museum. 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:01,999 The body was cremated, so I'm only working from the original postmortem report, the photos and x-rays. Yep. 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,799 What we're looking at is a "struck hoop" pattern - 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,599 depression of the skull leading to fractures on the intruded and extruded areas. 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,199 To me, that would suggest a blow with a blunt instrument, 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,879 rather than a fall onto the kind of flat surfaces present at the scene. 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,439 Yeah, but he was a bit pissed? 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,959 He had 70 micrograms of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood. 21 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:29,159 He'd show a loss of inhibitions and be well over the limit for driving. 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,559 But it's on the low side for an accident of this kind. 23 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,839 Are you saying that no-one's ever had that amount to drink and fallen down and received such injuries? 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,519 I'm saying it's more than likely he was hit on the head. 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,439 Thank you. Thanks very much. Thank you. 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,999 So, like a whole host of ruxton's old cases, this one gets re-investigated. 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,719 I don't see why we're lumbered with it. It's effectively a new case. 28 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,919 There's close to 100 forensic examinations waiting to be re-looked at. 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,079 Strickland's volunteered us to help out. Politics. 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,599 So, we going to have a look at the scene, then? Mm-hm. 31 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,639 Oh, the natural history museum. Great. Haven't been there for years. 32 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,759 I'll fix up a meeting with the keeper of palaeontology, the head of Fletcher's old department. 33 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,839 Excuse my ignorance, but what does a keeper of palaeontology actually do? 34 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,519 Very important job. He's responsible for a world-class collection of fossils. 35 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,559 Just like me. 36 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,199 ♪ It's all right, it's ok 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,999 ♪ doesn't really matter if you're old and grey 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,679 ♪ it's all right, I say, it's ok 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,479 ♪ listen to what I say 40 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,279 ♪ it's all right, doing fine 41 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,999 ♪ doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,719 ♪ it's all right, I say, it's ok 43 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,040 ♪ we're gettin' to the end of the day. ♪ 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,399 Roaring 45 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,439 children laugh 46 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,120 roaring 47 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,999 that is what I call a crime scene. 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,399 The victim's still alive. 49 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,999 Go on, hop in there and grab a statement! 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,079 Yeah, go on, go on! Ok, listen up. 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,439 At the time of his death in 2001, 52 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,119 Bernard Fletcher was a senior palaeontologist at the museum 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,999 and he was found by a Porter, Barry Drake. 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,159 What time was this? 8.00am. Time of death? A very good question, 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,719 Jack, because your old chum, dr negligence, put it between 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,759 midnight and 2.00am. But hey, it's now up for grabs. 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,999 It's still being investigated, Sandra. 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,319 Innocent until proven guilty. Remember? 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,359 Now, Fletcher was wearing evening clothes, right? 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,199 Yeah, that's because he'd attended a corporate jolly 61 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,600 the evening before he was found. 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,599 So, you can hire this place for a knees up? 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,839 It would cost you. The do in question was a dinner 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,319 given by the mondial fuel corporation. 65 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,039 When was Fletcher last seen alive? 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,359 9.15. Apparently, he had a drop too many, had words with his colleagues 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,639 and marched off, saying he had work to do. 68 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,239 When did the bun fight finish? 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,079 10.30. So the original investigation, working on ruxton's time of death, 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,959 assumed that everyone had left the premises at the time 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,679 he snuffed it, so only took perfunctory statements. 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,319 Forensics? Ah, they found no evidence of violence 73 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,239 at the scene and no sign that he'd been pushed from the walkway. 74 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,439 Anything that might have been a murder weapon? 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,599 No. Witnesses, other than the guests at the dinner? 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,959 Not to the actual death, of course, but there were two staff working in their offices, 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,719 a Marie Braden and Mark slater, but they didn't see or hear anything. 78 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,399 We'll want to talk to them again. 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,639 There's also a widow, Diane Fletcher, so Gerry, you and Brian can talk to her. 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,720 We'll catch you later. Okey-dokey. 81 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,959 Detective superintendent Pullman? 82 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,399 Yes. And you must be Madeleine simmonds. Keeper of palaeontology. 83 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,799 This is my colleague, Jack halford. Morning. 84 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,959 I don't understand this investigation. 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,559 Bernard Fletcher died accidentally. It was put to rest ten years ago. 86 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,599 The coroner recorded an open verdict, based on a pathology report which has since been reviewed, 87 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,959 so now the case is open again. 88 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,839 Do you know, the last time I saw this, I was with my dad. 89 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:06,239 Yes, most people only visit the museum three times in their lives - 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,279 once with parents, once with children and once with grandchildren. 91 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:15,999 We're constantly working to bring them back more often. How long ago did this diplodocus walk the earth? 92 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,959 Strictly speaking, it never did. It's a copy, kindly given to us by our colleagues in the usa, in 1905. 93 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,759 I didn't know that! 94 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,120 So things aren't always as they seem in the museum business? 95 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,679 I believe you have some questions? 96 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,159 My husband died in an accident. 97 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,719 The whole business was quite traumatic enough at the time. It doesn't need raking over now. 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,319 Well, sadly mrs Fletcher, things weren't done to a proper standard 99 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,719 back then and it's our job to do it more thoroughly. 100 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Well, I suppose you'd better come in. 101 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:57,759 My late husband was a very experienced and dedicated palaeontologist. 102 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,199 His specialism was the study of fossil birds. 103 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,600 That must be really fascinating! 104 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,959 Well, it fascinated him. 105 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,920 But you weren't part of that world? 106 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,199 I was never really invited to take an interest. 107 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,039 Bernard lived for his work. 108 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,399 He spent long hours at the museum, he often worked at weekends. 109 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:26,200 I looked after the home and the children, when they were little, and then I went back to teaching. 110 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,799 He left us very well provided for. 111 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,759 That's nice. 112 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:38,239 Did your husband mention any personal or professional problems in the time leading up to his death? No. 113 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,239 Can you think of anyone that might have wanted to harm him? 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,399 Bernard was a man of strong views, he spoke his mind. 115 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,479 He was never inhibited about putting peoples' backs up. 116 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,319 But I'd be astonished if he provoked anyone to homicide. 117 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,479 What were these strong views about? 118 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,119 Bernard believed 119 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,439 that living creatures are members of an extended family. 120 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,679 Humans now dominate the ecosystem and they have to be responsible for its welfare. 121 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,599 He believed that industrial civilisation 122 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,720 was destroying the planet and he spoke out on the subject... 123 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,999 ..Somewhat incessantly. 124 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,599 The night your husband died, he'd been drinking. 125 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,199 Was he a regular heavy drinker? 126 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:26,999 He was by no means an alcoholic, but I thought he overdid it, on occasion. 127 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,879 My attitude didn't influence him. 128 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,639 That's been very helpful, Diane. Thanks very much. 129 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,399 We may have to talk to you again. 130 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,679 Really? Well, it will have to be soon. 131 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,559 I'm leaving the country next month. 132 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,439 Holiday? Mid-life gap year. 133 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,039 With my new partner. 134 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,480 I hope this business is settled before then. 135 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,839 The original investigation found out that Bernard had had some 136 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,999 argument with his colleagues shortly before his death. 137 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,359 Can you tell us about that? Oh, that was nothing out of the ordinary. 138 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,839 Bernard getting on his high horse after a few. 139 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,399 Did he get on his high horse about anything in particular? 140 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,919 Bernard and I were guests at the dinner. I was a curator at the time. 141 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,679 I was very keen to encourage mondial fuel to sponsor the refurbishment of one of our galleries, 142 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,199 which they subsequently did. 143 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,919 Bernard thought, given the industry's environmental record, we shouldn't touch them. How did your hosts feel? 144 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,919 Well, I hope they weren't aware of it. 145 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,559 It was a squabble between museum staff, a storm in a teacup. Honestly. 146 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,279 Two of your staff were working late that night... 147 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,039 Marie Braden and Mark slater. Could you put us in contact with them? 148 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,199 Yes, Marie still works at the museum, 149 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,519 she has an office in the Darwin centre. 150 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,719 Mark slater is no longer with us, 151 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,239 he now works as a dealer in fossils. 152 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,839 I have his card here somewhere. 153 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,759 Does he supply fossils to the museum? 154 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,799 He has offered us some items. 155 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,640 But that's not the way we generally source our acquisitions. 156 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:01,719 I tell you what pisses me off, Jack, 157 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:08,119 I was writing the book on forensic pathology when some of these kids were doing their science o-levels. 158 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,359 I know, Bob. You were the best. 159 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,639 Now they're second-guessing my findings, ten years on. 160 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,440 You realise I can't discuss the case? 161 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,639 Of course not. Well, actually, I shouldn't be here talking to you at all, under the circumstances... 162 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,159 I'm not looking for any favours, Jack. 163 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:31,199 I know I was off the rails a bit, ten years back, 164 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,920 when I lost Sally. 165 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,519 You know how it is. 166 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,519 Oh, yes. 167 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,799 But that was private life, 168 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,399 I never let my professional standards slip. 169 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,920 I hear what you say, Bob. 170 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,079 Do you mind if I carry on with this while we talk? No, please do. 171 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,679 What is it, exactly? It's an archaeopteryx, 172 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:58,599 one of the earliest birds. 173 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,399 Or, from a another point of view, it's a feathered dinosaur. 174 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,239 Bernard Fletcher specialised in fossil birds, didn't he? 175 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,999 Yes. 176 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,679 You must have known him well? 177 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:12,119 He was my senior colleague, he supervised some of my work. 178 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,839 Were you on good terms with him... Personally? 179 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,039 We had a good working relationship. 180 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,119 I respected him as a scientist. 181 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,079 You were working the night he died? 182 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,479 Yes. In this office? No. This is the Darwin building, 183 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,839 it wasn't finished then. My office is in the museum basement. 184 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,119 And it said in your statement 185 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,759 that you didn't see Bernard Fletcher that evening? No, he was having dinner in the hall. 186 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,839 But when he left there he said he was going to do some work, so where was his office? 187 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,439 That was in the basement also. Near you? Not really, 188 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,119 it's quite a big place. 189 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,079 According to your statement, 190 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,119 you said that you didn't see or hear anything out of the ordinary that evening. 191 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,119 Any second thoughts about that? I'm really sorry, 192 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,640 I wish I could help you more. 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,759 What did you make of that? 194 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,239 A lady very dedicated to science. 195 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,439 All those questions and she could hardly bear 196 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,119 to tear herself away from her work to look us in the eyes. 197 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,319 Are you starting to believe there's a case to investigate? 198 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,199 Oh, I can believe that she could be covering something up about Fletcher. 199 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,520 But that doesn't mean that his death wasn't accidental. 200 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,159 'Hello?' mr slater? 'Yes.' 201 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,519 Gerry standing and Brian Lane. From ucos. We spoke on the phone. 202 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,039 'On my way.' 203 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,879 thank you. 204 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,359 Not exactly bond street, is it? 205 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,999 Maybe he saves on rent. 206 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Lives above the shop. 207 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,319 Come on inside. 208 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Thank you. Thank you. 209 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,680 Bloody hell! Gordon Bennett! 210 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,280 Look at this! 211 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,920 This is amazing. 212 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,559 Cos I mean, from the outside... It looks like a junk shop, I know. 213 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:22,159 Good for security. So you are anxious about security, then? 214 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,879 Well, you can't be too careful. 215 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,839 No, no. Anyone else live up in the flat? Not right now, no. 216 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,199 May I? 217 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,679 It's survived 360 million years, I don't suppose you'll do harm to it. 218 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:35,559 360 million?! 219 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:37,559 Well, what is it? It's a trilobite, 220 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:41,079 shuffled around on the ocean floor. Extinct before dinosaurs. 221 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,039 Hmm, £7.50. 222 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,280 750, actually. 223 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,759 What for a giant woodlouse? Bloody hell! 224 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,119 But this is like works of art. 225 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,399 That's why people want it. "Fossil decor", it's big! 226 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,839 Now, if I wanted that on my wall, what would it put me back? 227 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,999 That's an ichthyosaur and I'm asking 250 grand. 228 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,159 Huh! Don't get me wrong, I love this stuff, 229 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,119 but who's spending that kind of money? 230 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,479 Film stars, supermodels, you'd be surprised. 231 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,599 That's individuals, 232 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,039 when you talk about the institutional market - 233 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,159 museums, corporations and so on - the sky's the limit. Go on? 234 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,639 A tyrannosaurus Rex was recovered and auctioned in the states a few years back, 235 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,880 knocked out at 8.4 million bucks. 236 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,479 And I was going to ask you why you left the museum! Silly question, eh? 237 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,759 There's money to be made. 238 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,879 And I prefer prospecting the atlas mountains, or the Arizona badlands, to being in a museum. 239 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,279 Not really an institutional kind of bloke. 240 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,959 But Bernard Fletcher was institutionally minded? 241 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,439 Bernard was very dedicated to the museum, yes. 242 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,439 You told the original investigation that the night he died, 243 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,239 you were working on your own and you didn't see anything out of the ordinary? 244 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,159 That's right. My office was in the basement. 245 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,879 Backstage, as we call it. 246 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,679 Bernard had his accident in the public area. 247 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:04,679 Well, what happened to Bernard and where is now under investigation. 248 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:09,559 How well did you know him? Bernard was a bird man, I specialise in dinosaurs. 249 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:14,039 Well, as you know, Mark, all living things are part of one family, is that not right? 250 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,279 Oh, we knew each other, 251 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,319 we'd meet at palaeontology seminars and staff meetings, 252 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,839 but that's as far as it went. 253 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,439 I wish I could tell you more. 254 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,599 Well, if we think you can, we'll be back. 255 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Thanks very much. 256 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,520 Thanks very much. 257 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,959 I've got a fossil. 258 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,159 Have you? Yeah. 259 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,439 What of? I dunno really, my old man brought it back after the war. 260 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,319 Said he found it back east. 261 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,039 What's it look like? 262 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,800 Bit if old rock. 263 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,039 You never know, it might be of scientific interest. 264 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,600 I was thinking it might be worth a few quid. 265 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,999 I've been going through Fletcher's cv. 266 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,799 He didn't always work with bird fossils, 267 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,279 he originally did a phd on microfossils. What are they? 268 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:14,199 Microfossils are either fossil micro-organisms, or microscopic parts of larger animals. 269 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,079 And why is this interesting? I have no idea. 270 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,959 I'll check them out at the museum. 271 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Ok. Let's see what we've got. 272 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,279 What about the widow? 273 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,199 Well, she got over her grief, that's for sure. 274 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,719 If there ever was any. I've been looking into the probate records. 275 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,879 Fletcher's will left everything to the wife and kids, 276 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,079 including a very handsome payout from a life insurance policy. Really? 277 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,719 According to his phone bills, the most frequently dialled number 278 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,799 on his mobile, in the months before his death, was Marie Braden's. 279 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,359 She was his colleague and he supervised her work. 280 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,319 True, but he never once called her from his home land-line, 281 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,199 which may or may not be significant. 282 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,839 What about issues at work? 283 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,999 Fletcher got up Madeleine simmonds' nose by slagging off the oil company whose money she was after. 284 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,479 Doesn't seem enough to motivate murder. 285 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,159 No, not on its own. 286 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,959 Quite frankly, there's nothing here that suggests to me that Bob ruxton didn't get it right. 287 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,919 Your man had a drop too much, fell down and banged his head. 288 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,959 You've made your position clear, Jack. 289 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,919 If we're looking for a motive, 290 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,719 there is shedloads of money in the fossil business. Really? 291 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:27,079 From what we saw at slater's place, the museum's collection must be worth billions. 292 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,279 What if he happened upon a scam - 293 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,119 somebody smuggling stuff out of the museum to flog off? What if he was in one? 294 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,239 Wait a minute, it's easy to speculate on possible scams, 295 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,439 but the question we have to ask ourselves is, 296 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:45,559 did anything go missing from the museum in the period before Fletcher's death? 297 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,199 Right, well, we've got plenty of scenarios. 298 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Tomorrow, let's see if we can stand any of them up. 299 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,559 There's nothing in here remotely like a fossil, 300 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,400 unless you count this salami. 301 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,560 Have you had any luck? 302 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,120 Not for a very long time. 303 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,799 These corridors seem endless. 304 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,079 I've spent my working life in this museum, and there are parts I've never even visited. 305 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,759 The basement is our storage area. 306 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,039 I wanted you to get a sense 307 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,119 of what's involved when you ask whether anything is missing. 308 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:24,599 Yes, I understand that there are lots of items here. 309 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,159 80 million. 80 million?! Give or take the odd hundred thousand or so, nobody's really sure. 310 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,559 So the question of whether anything is missing is really rather metaphysical. 311 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,119 Point taken. 312 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:38,879 Let's restrict ourselves to Bernard Fletcher, Mark slater and Marie Braden. 313 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,879 I'm sure it's possible to check out what they were working on. 314 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,959 It would be a time-consuming diversion 315 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,959 from the museum's proper functions. 316 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Yes, but do it anyway, please. 317 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,839 'Scuse me, would you be Barry, by any chance? 318 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,519 That's right, who's asking? 319 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,199 Brian Lane and Gerry standing. 320 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,519 We're investigators with the metropolitan police. Oh, yeah? 321 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,519 Yeah, we're investigating the death of Bernard Fletcher. 322 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,279 Now, according to our records, you found the body. 323 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,959 That's right. 324 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,559 You gave a full statement to the original inquiry. 325 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,559 You said you found the body at 8am, checked for signs of life, 326 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,439 immediately called security, and then the police arrived. Yeah. 327 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,680 Is there anything you want to add? You know, looking back? 328 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,639 No, not really. 329 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,960 Poor old Bernard. 330 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,600 Oh, you knew him, then? I mean, more than just a regular face? 331 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,840 Allow me. 332 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,879 What's this all about, Jack? 333 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,279 Something here might interest you. 334 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,119 I've been checking those microfossils that Fletcher used to study. 335 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:29,319 I tell you one thing, you need a powerful microscope to see them at all. 336 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,480 This is what you get using an electron microscope. 337 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,039 And? Well, if you find certain microfossils, 338 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,159 and they show signs of deformation through heating, 339 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,559 it's a good indication of gas and oil deposits. 340 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,999 Which gives us a whole new line of inquiry. Mondial fuel. 341 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,839 Worth pursuing though, isn't it? 342 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,679 Oh, I don't know. 343 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,879 Probably turn out that he just had one too many and fell on his head, eh, Jack? 344 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,239 There may be certain things in this case that need investigation. 345 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240 But that still doesn't make it murder. 346 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,839 You spend all day fetching and carrying, and pushing a trolley, it makes you invisible. 347 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,479 They get so used to you popping in and out, they carry on as if you're not there. 348 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,279 So you know more of what goes on than they realise? 349 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,639 Who's fallen out, 350 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,839 who's pissed off cos someone else got the promotion, 351 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,039 who's at it with who. 352 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,799 Who's kipping in the basement cos they got kicked out by their other half! 353 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,439 So what do you know about Bernard Fletcher? 354 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,359 Well, I'm not that surprised you've re-opened the investigation. 355 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:37,039 At the time, I thought, "hello, old doc Fletcher's sins have found him out!" 356 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,119 What are you saying? 357 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:42,359 Well, I thought a jealous husband's caught up with him, and shoved him off the walkway. 358 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,039 Then they said it was an accident. 359 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,199 Who did you have in mind? 360 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,439 That would have been the problem, narrowing down the field! 361 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,399 So old Bernard was a bit of a bonking man, was he? 362 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,439 Dr Fletcher? 363 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,839 He was an artist. And he could pick 'em. 364 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,199 How do you mean? 365 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,639 Well, he went with visiting scholars, 366 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,599 staff on secondment from other museums, research students. 367 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,999 What I'm saying is, he always made sure there was a built-in get out. 368 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,799 They'd automatically move on elsewhere, so things didn't get sticky when the magic wore off. 369 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,719 Wish I'd thought of that one. 370 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:22,319 But there are none of dr Fletcher's ex-girlfriends still at the museum? 371 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,039 Well... 372 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,679 Come on, Barry, don't keep us in suspense. 373 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,799 Well, it's one thing talking about doc Fletcher. 374 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,639 I don't want to make trouble for someone who's got their life to get on with. 375 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,639 Oh, come on, we're not going to go to the tabloids with this. 376 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,600 The only people we'll share with are those who need to know. 377 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,440 Mm, well... 378 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,640 And we are still buying the beer. 379 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,399 Well, don't go giving dr Braden a bad time. 380 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,919 She's a nice woman, you can't say that about everybody round here. 381 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,079 Marie Braden? She's married with kids. 382 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,359 She wasn't then. She was fancy free. 383 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,679 After she gave Mark slater the old heave-ho. 384 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,639 Marie and slater were an item? 385 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,000 Yeah, but she give him the boot, sensible woman. 386 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,079 So Fletcher had a connection with the oil industry? 387 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,399 The museum does a lot of consultancy work with oil and gas companies, 388 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,639 Bernard might have been involved in his early days. Before my time. 389 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,919 Maybe with mondial fuel? 390 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,879 I've no idea. By the time I knew Bernard he'd switched to avian palaeontology. 391 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,319 Because he didn't like what the oil industry is doing to the planet? 392 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,520 That's a reasonable assumption. 393 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,959 Wotcha! We got a result on Fletcher's love life. 394 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,799 He was at it with Marie Braden. 395 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,919 That's progress! 396 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,159 Not just a casual naughty. A serious affair. 397 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,679 And not only that, she and slater used to be an item! 398 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,079 I'm going to have to get her in for an interview. 399 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,919 Coffee, Gerry? Yeah I will, thanks, I'll just Mark up the board. 400 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,039 What's that? 401 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,559 A whole new line of inquiry. 402 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,999 The original investigation team didn't pay much attention to the formal dinner, 403 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,359 because dr ruxton had told them Fletcher died after all the guests had gone home. 404 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,519 We're now told, of course, he could have died earlier. 405 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,639 But most importantly, we now know that Fletcher's earlier work was connected with oil exploration. 406 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,839 What's the sp on the corporate jolly? 407 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,759 Oh, that was organised by a Sarah Knowles 408 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:25,839 who was the personal assistant of mondial fuel's then director of European operations, James winslow. 409 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,159 Better get this Sarah Knowles in and all, then. 410 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,839 Yes, well she's not Sarah Knowles any more. 411 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,999 In 2002 James winslow divorced his wife and married her. 412 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,039 Bloody hell. 413 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,519 Yeah, I could be comfortable here. 414 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,959 It'd cost you. 415 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,239 It last changed hands for £7.5 million. 416 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080 At least I'd have room for my bits and pieces. 417 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Ammonites! 418 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,479 Ah, fantastic. 419 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,039 Are you a collector? 420 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,879 No, no, I've only recently taken an interest, after seeing Mark slater's shop. 421 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,079 Have you done business with him? 422 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,559 Er, yes, yes, he's one of the dealers we've used. 423 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,599 He used to work in the museum, you know? 424 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,399 Uh-huh. 425 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,119 You want to talk about the night of the dinner, right? 426 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,679 Yes. 427 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,399 Sit down, please. 428 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,439 Thank you. 429 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,639 Oh. Would you like a drink? 430 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,599 No, it's a bit early in the day for me. 431 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,279 And I don't, thank you. 432 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,399 You gave a statement to the original investigators saying 433 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,119 you didn't notice anything out of the ordinary on the night. That's right. 434 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,119 Would you like to add anything to that? 435 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:45,759 No. 436 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,479 Did you know Bernard Fletcher? 437 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,879 We were introduced the night of the dinner. 438 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,719 But we weren't sitting near him, so we didn't converse. 439 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,239 Were you aware of an argument between him and his colleagues? 440 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,919 No, sorry. 441 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,039 This is a little bit personal, I'm afraid, but James winslow 442 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,959 divorced his first wife and married you within a year or so of that dinner. 443 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,279 Now, may I ask, were you in a relationship at that time? 444 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,559 Sure. 445 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,159 He was shagging the hired help. 446 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:24,639 Bit of a cliche, but that's life, don't you find? 447 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,759 Then when you married James you gave up being a pa? 448 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,559 Well, we're not short of the odd Bob. 449 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,039 And once or twice a year, 450 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,919 I work as a tour manager on long-haul holidays. 451 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,839 Where to? 452 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,879 Vietnam, China. 453 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,719 So after a bit of a jet-set life, 454 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,439 you still find ways to keep yourself amused? 455 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,959 Amused? 456 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,239 Yeah, 457 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,080 frequently I'm in hysterics. 458 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Thank you very much. 459 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,959 I get the impression she's not living happily ever after. 460 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,319 I tell you what, I know a desperate housewife when I see one. 461 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240 She is well up for it! 462 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,080 I bow to your expertise, Gerry. 463 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,159 This is James winslow. Thank you. 464 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,359 Hello there. Hello. Sandra Pullman. 465 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,799 Very good to meet you. 466 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,719 And this is Jack halford. Hello. 467 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,240 How do you do? Do sit down. Thank you. 468 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,759 As you know, we're reinvestigating the death of dr Bernard Fletcher. 469 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,839 Yes. I don't think I can help you much. 470 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,279 I only met dr Fletcher the night before his body was found. 471 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,039 Sadly I never got a chance to do more than exchange greetings with him. 472 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,799 Were you aware of dr Fletcher's hostile attitude to the oil industry? 473 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,679 We have no quarrel with critics who stay within the parameters of the law. 474 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,319 But... that's not strictly my department. 475 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,919 Samantha, could you ask Michael to join us? 476 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,959 Our head of security's the man to talk to. 477 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,440 Oh, ok, thank you. 478 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,039 Michael ratcliffe. 479 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,119 Detective superintendent Pullman, 480 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:22,759 and Jack halford, from ucos. 481 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,079 I don't think our paths ever crossed, in the job. I was in diplomatic protection. 482 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,319 Oh, I've always been a bit nervous around firearms. 483 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,079 I wasn't nervous enough. 484 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,920 Please. 485 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,879 Michael, dr Bernard Fletcher. 486 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,319 Died at the natural history museum? 487 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,639 That's right. 488 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,399 Were you at the dinner that evening, mr ratcliffe? 489 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,679 No. Not high enough on the food chain! 490 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,039 Michael, did dr Fletcher ever appear on our radar 491 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,679 as a security threat, subversive, or such like? 492 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,239 Not in my time. 493 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,039 Dr Fletcher's career 494 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,119 began in the study of microfossils. 495 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,759 That's highly significant for the oil industry, I believe? 496 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,319 Certainly. 497 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,960 Did he ever work for you as a consultant? 498 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,799 Not that we're aware of. 499 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,479 We'd check that in your records. 500 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,719 By all means. Michael, can you facilitate that? 501 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,359 Certainly. As long as you don't mind spending some time wading through our archives. 502 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,799 No record of Fletcher working for mondial fuel, 503 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,119 so the connection to the oil industry looks like a dead end. 504 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,799 I'm not so sure. 505 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,799 I wouldn't trust that lot as far as I could throw them. No. 506 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,559 Now, listen, this may not have anything to do with the oil industry, as such, 507 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,959 but there is a connection. 508 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,679 Sarah winslow is a customer of slater's fossil business. 509 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,319 May mean something, may not. 510 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,679 And maybe not just a customer. 511 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,239 We've been talking to the art and antiques squad. 512 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,599 They've got criminal intelligence on slater. 513 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,759 He was deported from China in 1998. 514 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,399 When he was still at the museum? 515 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,439 Mmm-hmm. 516 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,679 The Chinese accused him of trying to export fossil dinosaur eggs without a licence. 517 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,399 Bit of a diplomatic incident. 518 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,559 The museum chose to believe slater, 519 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,559 but art and antiques reckons he's been in to some dodgy deals since. 520 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,119 Slater gets slung out of China 521 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,399 and now Sarah leads upmarket tour parties there. 522 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,239 China's one of the great fossil sources, 523 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,039 all those alluvial rivers, 524 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,159 flooding over millions of years and burying all kinds of creatures. 525 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,519 Over time this turns to stone, 526 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,880 and produces these beautifully-preserved specimens. 527 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,279 So? Bernard called me, talking's not a crime, is it? 528 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,959 No-one's accusing you of a crime, Marie. 529 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,320 But you have been misleading us, haven't you? 530 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,959 We have information that you and Bernard Fletcher 531 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,119 were in a relationship at the time of Fletcher's death. 532 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,079 Now, we want to get an honest answer from you. 533 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,039 But if we're not satisfied, then we have to try to confirm 534 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,519 or disprove the story by talking to more people. 535 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,359 I have a husband, children. I'm in another life now! 536 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,759 All the more reason why we should get the truth from you, without spreading the net wider. 537 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,199 I suppose you got all this from that creepy Porter, Barry. 538 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,639 I told Bernard it was a mistake giving him drinks and tips and Christmas boxes. 539 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,520 So you and Bernard were lovers? 540 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,999 Yes. 541 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,039 Was it serious? 542 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,719 Perfectly serious. 543 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,399 I wasn't the palaeontology department bicycle! 544 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,519 But Bernard is a married man, with children. 545 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,999 Bernard and I had planned a future together. 546 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,439 He'd told his wife he wanted a divorce. 547 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,600 Well, thank you for being honest with us, Marie. 548 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,559 You must have been terribly distressed by Bernard's death. 549 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,399 Of course. 550 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,679 So you'll understand how important it is 551 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,159 for us to know the true circumstances of it. 552 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,159 When did you last see him alive? 553 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,519 It was the night he died. 554 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,999 He came to see me after he walked out of the dinner. 555 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,079 This was in your office, in the basement? 556 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,119 Yes. 557 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,080 We know he'd been drinking. Was he badly affected by it? 558 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,960 He was a little flamboyant... 559 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,239 ..But he was making perfect sense. 560 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,359 Telling me how disgusted he was there were people in the museum 561 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,119 willing to sell out to those shits in the oil business. 562 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,399 I had heard it all before. 563 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,879 What this means, Marie, 564 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,680 is that you were the last known person to see him alive. 565 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,319 No, Carol. 566 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,319 That thing in the cardboard box 567 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,640 is an su downdraught carburettor, but that's not what I'm looking for. 568 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,600 No, you can't Chuck it away. It could be reconditioned. 569 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Yes, yes, all right, I'll pick it all up when I've got somewhere to store it, all right. 570 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,119 Now listen. 571 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,919 Listen! 572 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,760 What I'm looking for is a fossil. 573 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,760 Dialling tone 574 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,719 You had a history with Mark slater, didn't you? 575 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,959 Oh... 576 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,279 Look, Mark and I went out on a couple of dates. 577 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,359 I like the guy, but there was never any future in it. 578 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,320 He was too much of a chancer. 579 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,480 And Mark was working in the museum basement, the night you had your last encounter with Fletcher? 580 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,519 Yes. 581 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,719 Turns out Sarah's a Cambridge graduate. 582 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,359 Posh totty. You'd expect it, wouldn't you? 583 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,759 She was reading sinology. 584 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,279 You're kidding? 585 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,759 I could have asked her why mine gets so blocked up. 586 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,039 Sinology is the study of the people and language of China. 587 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,199 Oh. 588 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,959 She was at the same college, at the same time, as Mark slater. 589 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,359 Can't stay clear of each other, can they? 590 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,119 Oh, have a look. 591 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,599 Sarah winslow was done for being an hour over the limit, 592 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,959 in a parking bay opposite Mark slater's shop. 593 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,799 Maybe he had some fresh trilobites in. 594 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,279 Look at that, three points for speeding, two streets away, 595 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,000 at 11.30 at night. 596 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,559 There's definitely something going on between Sarah winslow and slater. 597 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,119 He's giving her one. That's not a crime, is it? 598 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,479 No, but they go back a long way, to university. 599 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,839 They knew each other when Fletcher was killed. 600 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,359 Keep an eye on slater and then you and I will give Diane Fletcher a pull in the morning, Jack. 601 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Maybe she's been painting us a picture. 602 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,959 We're not going to get anything tonight. 603 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,359 What you looking at? Her car's not on the plot, is it? 604 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,719 No, no. See if you can get me a trace on this licence. 605 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:15,279 Gn54 wxp. 606 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,799 Yeah, all right. Why? 607 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,119 Cos that car's been here longer than we have, 608 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,039 and there's been a bloke behind the wheel all that time. 609 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,119 Shouldn't we go and have a chat? 610 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,359 It's tricky, isn't it? 611 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,999 Probably best to not let on we've clocked him. 612 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,160 Too late, anyway. He's off. 613 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,839 You didn't tell us, or the previous investigation, 614 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,199 that your husband was seeking a divorce. 615 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,759 Well, he didn't need one in the end, did he? 616 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,879 Everything seemed perfectly straightforward, 617 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,119 I saw no point confusing the issue. 618 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,399 If you and your husband had divorced, you'd be a far worse off now. 619 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,239 He died at a very convenient time. 620 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:10,399 The night my husband died, I was wardrobe mistress at my daughter's school production of the tempest. 621 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,239 How many witnesses would you like? 622 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:17,919 There was a lot of money at stake. You could have hired someone. Oh, this is nonsense. 623 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,919 Look, I can perfectly well believe Bernard falling over when he was pissed, 624 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,399 but if you must find someone to blame, 625 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,799 how about the man he was trying to get sacked? Who? 626 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,479 Mark slater. 627 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:37,079 Bernard was convinced slater was moonlighting as a fossil dealer while he was working at the museum. 628 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,919 He was on his case, and when Bernard was on your case, 629 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,360 you were in trouble. 630 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,799 Ratcliffe - what's he been up to? 631 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,199 A vehicle registered to Michael ratcliffe was keeping surveillance last night outside slater's place. 632 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,879 I always thought mondial fuel were tied up with this! 633 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,599 Actually, you didn't always think there was a crime! 634 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,879 After a long and distinguished career a man is entitled to get things arse about face. 635 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,399 This isn't about business. 636 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,839 Slater and Sarah are at it. 637 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,439 Ratcliffe was getting evidence for his guv'nor! 638 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,999 There's more to it than that. 639 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,319 Phone rings 640 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,639 ucos. Brian Lane speaking. 641 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,959 Diane Fletcher says that her old man wanted to get slater the sack. 642 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,320 Madeleine simmonds. Wants you at the museum. Urgently. 643 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,839 I would be very grateful if you didn't touch any of these particular items. 644 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,239 I was very concerned, which is why I called you. 645 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,719 We were checking on the items as you asked. Something's missing? 646 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,759 No, but the labelling has been interfered with. You see this? 647 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,039 Yes. This isn't the real 7531. It's from a different specimen altogether. 648 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,559 There are distinct morphological peculiarities. 649 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,919 We believe you, but what is the significance? 650 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,839 Well, if we can't relate items to their specimen, chaos breaks out! 651 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,239 Hang on. Who was handling the item with this label at the time of Fletcher's death? 652 00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,279 Bernard himself. It's the tibia of a dinornis. 653 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,479 An extinct, giant bird. 654 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,319 This is the real 7531. They've been switched! 655 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,319 That would have been in Fletcher's office, would it? 656 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,439 Yes. You could certainly give someone a hefty blow with that. 657 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,159 Maybe we've just ticked the box for method. We'll have to send it off for forensic analysis. 658 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,319 This is all very unfortunate. 659 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,160 I don't know. It's cheered me up no end. 660 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,119 If you're looking for Mark, you've missed him. 661 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,080 Is that right? 662 00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:32,439 Left in a bit of a hurry this morning. 663 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,999 You don't happen to know where's he's gone, do you? 664 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,719 One of his field trips, I suppose. 665 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,639 He had a backpack with him. 666 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,359 Did he say when he'd be back? 667 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,880 Sorry. 668 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,439 Guv'nor, we've got a bit of a problem. 669 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,040 Ok, Gerry. Cheers. 670 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,119 Detective superintendent Pullman, ucos. 671 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,679 I want a suspect placed on all watch lists. Ports, airports. 672 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,280 Name of Mark slater. Ic1 male, aged 38. 673 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,599 Detective superintendent Pullman. Jack halford. Ucos. 674 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,279 I've talked to your people. 675 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,439 Yeah, now you're going to talk some more. Where's your boyfriend, Sarah? 676 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,999 I don't understand. Mark slater is a suspect in our murder inquiry. Do you know where he is? 677 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,919 No, no, of course not. Mark's just a business associate. 678 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,839 Make sure your story stands up, we're searching his premises right now. 679 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,319 I've got a warrant for yours as well. 680 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,800 Could you open that bag, please? Show us what's inside. 681 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,719 Well, there's a thing. 682 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,240 So what have you got to say about that? 683 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,759 It's a fossil. 684 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,720 No, there's nothing very interesting in the paper files. 685 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,399 All the serious records will be on disk. 686 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,359 Let's take this in, then. Give it a good going over. Sure. 687 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,719 Listen, listen, boys, mind how you go, 688 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,080 everything in here is worth a fortune. 689 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,279 Your fossil turned up yet? 690 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,999 No, Allison and Carol were a dead loss, 691 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,679 just gave me a load of earache about the junk I'd already left over there. 692 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,799 What about Jane? 693 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,639 Oh, couldn't get an answer out of her at all. 694 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,199 That's a thought. Maybe I'll just pop over there. 695 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,279 Come on, then. 696 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,719 See ya, boys. 697 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,279 What is your relationship with Mark slater? 698 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,679 Oh, Mark and I were students together. 699 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,759 We're old friends. 700 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,639 You're having an affair, aren't you? 701 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,279 No. 702 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,959 Your husband thinks you are. 703 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,519 He's had his man ratcliffe watching slater's premises. 704 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,359 I'm not responsible for what goes on in James' head. 705 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,519 You've been having secret meetings with slater, for long periods, outside of normal working hours. 706 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,319 I don't have "normal working hours", neither does Mark. 707 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,440 What was that skull doing in the boot of your car, Sarah? 708 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,759 Oh, look at that. 709 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,079 It'll take days to get through all this lot. 710 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,040 Well, see if there's anything that refers to Fletcher. 711 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,719 Hello. 712 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,319 An e-mail from Fletcher, addressed to Madeleine simmonds. 713 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,999 It just says, "for your information". 714 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,319 Dated September 2000. 715 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,639 So slater was hacking into Fletcher's e-mails. 716 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,199 What are the attachments? 717 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,600 Just called natural history museum 01, 02 et cetera. 718 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,640 That skull is a fossil of a possible human ancestor, right? 719 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,079 Would that make it valuable? Priceless. 720 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,919 So what was it doing in the boot of your car? 721 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,639 There's not really an open market for humanoid fossils. 722 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,239 Rock stars don't want them on their walls. 723 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,359 You have to do a deal with an institution. 724 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,959 A museum that's not too fussy about questions of provenance. 725 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,159 Slater handled that side of things, did he? 726 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,399 Yes. And questions of provenance can be very embarrassing, can't they, Sarah? 727 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,239 I understand that the Chinese get very sensitive about their fossil heritage being ripped off. 728 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:38,599 It's a wonderful source for palaeontologists. 729 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,319 The Chinese know slater's dodgy. 730 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,279 He wouldn't be allowed back in the country, let alone stand a chance of getting any fossils out. 731 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,039 But you could organise it, as a top of the market tour manager. 732 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,799 Everybody needs to put something aside for the future. 733 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,359 I wouldn't have thought being married to James winslow you'd have any financial worries. 734 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:02,799 James made it perfectly clear that a man who marries his mistress creates a job vacancy. 735 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,319 It seemed wise to make my own provisions. 736 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,079 But your association with Mark slater goes way back before your marriage. 737 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,519 And slater was suspected of illicit fossil trading by Bernard Fletcher, ten years ago. 738 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,599 Were you involved in that scam? 739 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,239 No. 740 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,279 No, you've got this totally wrong. 741 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,439 Have we? You were at the museum the night Fletcher died. 742 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,879 I don't know anything about Fletcher's death. 743 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,119 And what would Mark slater know about it? You'd have to ask him. 744 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,079 Oh, we were about to when he disappeared. 745 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,320 Which leaves you, as his accomplice, carrying the can. 746 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,399 Here we go. 747 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,599 Finance! My favourite. 748 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,279 There we go. Customer accounts. 749 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,959 Let's see how much business Sarah was really doing. 750 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,799 Cos I reckon it was just a cover for a nice little game of hide the fossil. 751 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,959 Right, here we go, in the financial year ending 31st march, 2010, 752 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,999 she spent 38,500. 753 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,759 Stroll on! 754 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,439 2009 - 42,000. 755 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,039 Gordon Bennett! 756 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,839 Sarah winslow's coughed to being involved in a fossil scam with Mark slater, 757 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,679 but denying any knowledge of Fletcher's death. 758 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,439 Much on slater's computer? 759 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,959 Shedloads. We've hardly scratched the surface. 760 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,799 Just listen how much Sarah's been spending with slater over the years. 761 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,039 Another one, 2008 - 35,700. 762 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,319 Blimey, she must own the business at that rate! 763 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,679 How far does this go back? 764 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,639 Well, she opened her customer account in 2002. 765 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,559 She spent 38,500 that financial year. 766 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,679 Maybe she just likes spending her old man's money, it has been known. But hang on... 767 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,879 If you compare like for like items, 768 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,439 Sarah's paying 50% to 70% to more than other customers. 769 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,839 And she's no mug. There must be a scam on here. 770 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,119 But it can't be the same scam she's running with slater, it's the wrong way round. 771 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,039 She's smuggling stuff out of China, he sells it on, he should be paying her. 772 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,119 Yeah. 773 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,400 Weird. 774 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,239 I don't know why you want me involved in this. 775 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,199 Cos you're an upstanding, honest citizen, and Jane knows that. 776 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,279 She'd think it was really iffy if I'd pitched up on my own. 777 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,560 Yeah, well... 778 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,559 You know what? I think she's away. 779 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,199 Good, can I go home, then? 780 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,519 No, no, Brian. Look. 781 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,039 No-one ever stopped us getting into a target premises when we were in the job, did they? 782 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,879 Does she know you've got a key? 783 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,559 Well, put it this way, I've never told her I haven't. 784 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,119 You can't walk into someone's house when they're away in the middle of night! 785 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,239 It's better than in daylight, isn't it? 786 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:49,599 This is illegal entry! 787 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,599 All my wives have said that to me at one time or another! 788 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,640 Now get in here, you look suspicious. 789 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,359 You really made a mess of the Fletcher case. 790 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,199 I thought you were on my side, Jack! 791 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,479 If the original inquiry had known it could have been murder, 792 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,159 and what the time of death was, 793 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,639 they might have cleared the whole thing up when the trail was fresh. 794 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,160 After all these years, we may never be able to prove anything! 795 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,839 I didn't do the postmortem on Fletcher. 796 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,879 What? 797 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:29,759 Truth is, ten years back, I was hitting the bottle so hard, 798 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,279 I could hardly walk in a straight line, 799 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,640 let alone make an incision. 800 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:39,080 I left it to one of my students... 801 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,359 ..And gave him a wad of cash to write the reports. 802 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,840 And to keep his mouth shut, no doubt. 803 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,799 Why can't we have the lights on? 804 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,279 Same reason why we're whispering. 805 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,039 I don't like this at all. 806 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,879 Just keep looking. 807 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,319 Ow! 808 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,999 What? What the bloody hell's that? 809 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,199 That's it! What, that? 810 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,719 Yeah, brilliant. 811 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:09,559 It don't look like much. 812 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,240 No, I don't suppose those things in slater's shop look like much before they were cleaned up and polished. 813 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,320 Put the lights on, Brian. 814 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,720 Why? 815 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,760 Oh. 816 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,439 Either of you two the householder? Not really. Is there a problem? 817 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,599 Report of two men seen entering the house. 818 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,559 Householder's on holiday, apparently. So you are? 819 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,639 Gerry standing. Brian Lane. 820 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,199 Civilian investigators with ucos. 821 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,879 So you're saying you're here on police business? 822 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,639 We, erm... No, no, no, we're just, erm... 823 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,999 House sitting, actually. The ex-wife... 824 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,399 Likes us to look in every couple of days to see everything's all right. 825 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,599 Got to help each other nowadays, haven't you? 826 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,000 It's the big society, isn't it? Yeah, massive. 827 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,639 I'll want your addresses. 828 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,559 Certainly, officer. Come on, then. 829 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,559 Let's get it all locked up, nice, safe and secure. 830 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,239 There you go, job done, no suspects on! 831 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:18,759 You've been a very good customer of Mark slater's over the years, haven't you, Sarah? 832 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,199 We like fossil decor. 833 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,679 And my husband's encouraged me to buy for his corporate hq. 834 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,759 It's in line with their branding. 835 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,319 In fact, you've been slater's best customer. 836 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,359 Since he set up in business in 2002 you've put a cool half million his way. 837 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,959 If you say so. 838 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,359 My motto is, if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it. 839 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,439 Still, you must have some concern about value for money. 840 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,319 And you also must know you've been paying way, way over the odds. 841 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,599 Paying top dollar isn't a crime, is it? 842 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,039 No, but money-laundering is. 843 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,679 And that's what this looks like. 844 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,599 A means to pay slater for services far beyond supplying fossils. 845 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,680 So what was slater really being paid for, Sarah? 846 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,039 Bernard Fletcher died in 2001, 847 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,159 the following year the serious money began to flow. 848 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:14,919 Slater was being paid to keep quiet about the circumstances of Fletcher's death, wasn't he? 849 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,319 It's nothing to do with me! 850 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,719 It's your money. 851 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:19,199 It's my husband's money. 852 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,440 James is responsible for any money paid to Mark. 853 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,559 James wanted me to source fossils from Mark slater. 854 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,919 He assured me that slater would suggest an acceptable price. 855 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,559 That's all I know. 856 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,800 And you never queried that? 857 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,079 I was strongly discouraged. 858 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,119 By James and by Mark. 859 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,079 This is Tiffany Hayes, our in-house counsel. 860 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,319 My client would like it placed on record 861 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,519 he has gone out of his way to co-operate with your inquiries, 862 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,639 despite the fact that no evidence has been put to him 863 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,120 indicating his involvement in any illegal activities. 864 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,439 Is it true you asked Michael ratcliffe to watch Mark slater's premises? 865 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,639 Yes. 866 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,319 I wanted to know if my wife and slater were having an affair. 867 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,519 Your wife has been making some very generous payments to slater, isn't that right? 868 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,239 My wife has an irresponsible attitude to money. 869 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:24,599 You've been paying slater off since Fletcher's death, haven't you? No. 870 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,479 Our information is that you have. 871 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,519 You're asking my client to comment on slanderous hearsay from his wife, 872 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,679 who is unstable and has a drink problem. 873 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,359 That's unreasonable. 874 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,880 Nevertheless, we would like him to make a comment. 875 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,119 I have no interest in the circumstances of Bernard Fletcher's death. 876 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,239 You've failed to establish that he had any relationship with my company. 877 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:55,120 You're just speculating, without offering a shred of evidence. 878 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,719 Bernard Fletcher sent you this e-mail some months before he died. 879 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,199 Where did you get this? 880 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,359 That's not the issue. 881 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,879 We've been talking to your technical people. 882 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,319 And they said the attachments are micrographs, 883 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,279 pictures taken on a scanning electron microscope. 884 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,879 What are they pictures of? 885 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,799 Foraminifera. A form of microfossil. 886 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,399 According to your earth sciences people, 887 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,359 they've undergone a process of discolouration and deformation 888 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,759 due to heating, during their history. 889 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,879 Now we're told that this indicates the possibility of oil deposits. 890 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,280 So why was Fletcher sending them to you? 891 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,439 You know Bernard had done research 892 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,559 in what was then Soviet Central Asia in the 1980s? 893 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,919 This is before he switched his interest to fossil birds. 894 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,879 He revisited Central Asia in the late '90s. 895 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,559 By that time the local states had become independent of the former Soviet union. 896 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,879 In the area where he had done his original research, 897 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,159 vast tracts of land were being acquired 898 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,999 by a variety of western companies, 899 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,879 talking about speculative resort complexes and holiday home developments. 900 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,279 Is that where you'd go on holiday? 901 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,959 Well, if you're interested in natural beauty, wetlands, wildlife, particularly birds. 902 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,559 Sounds very nice. 903 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,879 When Bernard came back, 904 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,519 he re-examined his old microfossil findings using more modern techniques, 905 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,599 and saw clear evidence indicating the presence of substantial oil and gas deposits. 906 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,919 He believed an oil company was buying the land, acting through proxies to keep the price down. 907 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,959 What oil company? 908 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,719 He didn't know, he was still trying to find out. 909 00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:29,559 He sent me this as a campaign to persuade me the museum 910 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,599 should drop its associations with oil companies as a matter of principle. 911 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,479 And what was your response? 912 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,119 Sponsorship is our lifeblood. 913 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,839 I believed it would be catastrophic for the museum. 914 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,719 I told Bernard he would have to make a much stronger case before I could consider supporting him. 915 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:47,599 Basically, you kicked it into touch. 916 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,759 And then Fletcher was killed. 917 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,039 Well, in an accident. That's what we were led to believe. 918 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,999 Fletcher eventually works out who the oil company is that's buying up the land. 919 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,479 Mondial fuel! It's got to be! 920 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,319 Slater's into Fletcher's e-mails. 921 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,199 He's got it in for Fletcher because he nicked his bird 922 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,239 so he's trying to get Fletcher the sack. 923 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:06,959 He grasses him up to mondial fuel. 924 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,559 Fletcher's killed, slater gets paid off! It all adds up to me. 925 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,439 Great story. Brilliant work. Sorry to have to rain on your parade. That's all it is. 926 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,159 It's just a story, it's not a case. 927 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,599 It doesn't gives us who killed Fletcher, which is what we're investigating, remember? 928 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,319 Without slater, we're cattle. No sightings, then? 929 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,679 His description's been circulated, he's on all the watch lists. 930 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,399 No sightings, no withdrawals from his bank, no calls from his mobile. 931 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,839 Well, he's somewhere, isn't he? I don't know. 932 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,879 Maybe mondial fuel caught up with him and knocked him off. Solves a problem, and saves money. 933 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,799 Maybe somebody's looking after him. 934 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,879 Who? Sarah winslow's showing no signs of sticking her neck out for him, is she? 935 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:46,999 Marie? Marie? 936 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,679 Marie's been covering up for him for ten years, she could be doing it now. 937 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,519 She's got a husband and two kids. What'll she say to them, 938 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,919 "this guy's my old boyfriend, he's coming to live in the basement"? 939 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,639 No, she wouldn't do that. Course not! Not in her basement. 940 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,360 What do you mean? 941 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,639 Barry! 942 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,239 Can't talk now, lads. I'm on duty. 943 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,439 Your duty is to assist the police with their enquiries. 944 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,199 So when Mark slater worked here, 945 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,639 was he one of the people who dossed in the basement when he was having domestic troubles? 946 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,959 Well, I can't recall off-hand. What's this? 947 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,519 Mind if we have a look? 948 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,599 Packed lunch. 949 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,439 You're a pub lunch man. I should know, I paid! 950 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,919 I'm economising. 951 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,039 I think Mark slater's hiding out here somewhere. You're looking after him. 952 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:38,319 You're talking bollocks! No, Barry, we're talking wasting police time, obstructing an investigation. 953 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,679 Conspiracy? Always my favourite. 954 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,440 Bloody hell! Where is he, Barry? 955 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,880 Blimey. 956 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,360 Mark? 957 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,160 It's only me. 958 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,720 Brian. 959 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,480 He's definitely in here somewhere. 960 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,760 Mark? 961 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,760 Mark! Brian! 962 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,999 Come on, son. 963 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,040 We need to talk to you. 964 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,040 Strike! 965 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:08,039 You told winslow that Fletcher was on to what mondial fuel were doing, didn't you? 966 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,719 Yes. 967 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,079 And then you killed him for them, 968 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,119 and winslow's been paying you off ever since, isn't that right? 969 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,359 No. I didn't know anything about the killing until it had happened. Ok. 970 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,760 So what's your version of events? 971 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,999 Winslow asked me for a duplicate key for the backstage area, which I supplied. 972 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,999 So he could kill Fletcher? 973 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,679 We thought Bernard would be out the way, at the dinner. 974 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,159 Winslow trained as a geologist. He wanted to see what Bernard had found out. Next thing I knew, 975 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,039 Bernard was dead. There was nothing I could do about it. 976 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,359 Well, you did a little bit more than nothing. 977 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,879 You became an accessory. 978 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,359 You dealt with the murder weapon, didn't you? 979 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,719 He asked me to get rid of it, and I said I would. 980 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,719 But you can't just walk out the museum with an item like that. 981 00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,079 The best I could do was switch round the labels. 982 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,520 And winslow's been paying you off ever since? 983 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,999 Yes. 984 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,919 We have method, motive and opportunity. 985 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,479 James winslow, I'm arresting you on... 986 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,440 Before you go any further I believe mr ratcliffe would like to make a statement. 987 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,559 I killed Bernard Fletcher. 988 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,960 But you weren't even there! 989 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,559 Fletcher was conducting a campaign of industrial espionage 990 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,639 and subversion against my company. 991 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,359 James winslow provided me with a key to the museum's backstage area, where I hid during the day. 992 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,799 That evening, when Fletcher was at the dinner, 993 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:41,519 I accessed his office to search for and destroy materials assembled by Fletcher to damage mondial fuel. 994 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,799 I was interrupted by Fletcher, who assaulted me. 995 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,599 In fear of my life, and acting in self defence 996 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,919 I struck him with a fossil bone I found on his bench. 997 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,439 I moved the body to the dinosaur gallery, 998 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,480 and I left the museum via the rear staff entrance. 999 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,919 I don't believe a word of this. 1000 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,480 Winslow's offered you a massive bung to take the rap, hasn't he? 1001 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,439 Could you do me a favour, Madeleine, and give me your expert view on this? 1002 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,599 I'm not giving the museum first refusal, you understand? 1003 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,719 I want to see what my options are like on the open market first. 1004 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,319 But he'd like to know what it is. 1005 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,279 You see, my guess would be 1006 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,319 some kind of primitive echinoderm. 1007 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,679 You know, like your modern sea cucumber. 1008 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,119 Yes, I can see where you're coming from, but, no, it's not that. 1009 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,519 But it is a fossil? 1010 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,479 Yes. It's coprolite. 1011 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,079 Is it? Coprolite. 1012 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,799 I own a coprolite! 1013 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,079 So, between ourselves, 1014 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,999 could you give me a rough ball-park figure of what I might hope to get for it? 1015 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,199 Someone with a scatological sense of humour might offer you a few quid to have it as a conversation piece. 1016 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,399 A few quid? But it's thousands of years old! 1017 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,479 Oh, yes, it's old, all right. But not all that uncommon. 1018 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,479 Coprolite is fossilised animal dung. 1019 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,759 Shit. 1020 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,880 Precisely. 1021 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,440 Well, I don't want it. 1022 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,639 ♪ It's all right, it's ok 1023 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,359 ♪ doesn't really matter if you're old and grey 1024 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,999 ♪ it's all right, I say it's ok 1025 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,280 ♪ listen to what I say 1026 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,639 ♪ it's all right, doing fine 1027 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,599 ♪ doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine 1028 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,879 ♪ it's all right, I say it's ok 1029 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,239 ♪ we're gettin' to the end of the day. ♪ 1030 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,760 Subtitles by red bee media ltd 88200

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