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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,560 [Light orchestral music] 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,879 - Morning Brian. - Oh! 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,919 [Files crashing] 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,639 Knock it off, Jack. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,079 Bit early to be skulking around, isn't it? 6 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:21,119 Who's in there? 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,439 Well that's the point, I don't know. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,400 I got here 10 minutes ago, 9 00:00:24,401 --> 00:00:26,760 and it was already sealed to the outside world. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Well Sandra, certainly. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,999 Strickland? 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,639 Sounds like, there's someone else. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,159 Yeah, who is that? 14 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:39,960 Morning! 15 00:00:39,961 --> 00:00:41,319 [Brian and Jack] Oh! 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,960 [Brian moaning] 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,119 Brian are you all right, what's happened? 18 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Does he need a doctor? 19 00:00:48,001 --> 00:00:49,799 He's fine, just nosy. 20 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,160 What's going on in there? 21 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Nurse! 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,439 They're out their beds again. 23 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,279 Oh, bloody hell. 24 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,280 Ahh, oh! 25 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,639 ♪ It's all right ♪ 26 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,959 ♪ it's okay ♪ 27 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,639 ♪ doesn't really matter if you're old and grey ♪ 28 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:06,999 ♪ it's all right ♪ 29 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,559 ♪ I say, it's okay ♪ 30 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,519 ♪ listen to what I say ♪ 31 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,639 ♪ it's all right ♪ 32 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,959 ♪ doing fine ♪ 33 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:16,679 ♪ doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine ♪ 34 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,640 ♪ it's all right ♪ 35 00:01:17,641 --> 00:01:19,399 ♪ I say, it's okay ♪ 36 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,920 ♪ we're getting to the end of the day ♪ 37 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,319 Right lads, here's the thing. 38 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:29,639 April the 17th, 1980. 39 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,599 Heathrow safety deposit job, armed robbery. 40 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,159 He is good, isn't he. 41 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,119 The armed robbers got away with 10 million pounds, 42 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,559 in untraceable bearer bonds. 43 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,239 And they killed two security guards in the process. 44 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,319 Excuse me, can I do this. 45 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:43,679 Sorry. 46 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,479 Eye witnesses said it was a four man team. 47 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,000 This was frank's first case on the flying squad. 48 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,279 Sorry. 49 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,599 One of the dead guards was a temp, covering for this man. 50 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,679 George milligan, milligan had called in sick that morning. 51 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,479 So frank's team quickly determined 52 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,919 that he was the inside man. 53 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,999 Well it doesn't take Columbo, does it? 54 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,919 Milligan confessed, and named Raymond atkins 55 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,399 as his contact within the gang. 56 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,839 Now, atkins was known as a petty criminal. 57 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,239 Something of a thug. 58 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,759 But this was his first foray into armed robbery. 59 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,719 And a couple of weeks before the job, 60 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,999 he'd rented a lockup just off the holloway road. 61 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,119 So frank's team tracked it down, entered the premises. 62 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,079 And found the bodies of three men. 63 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,960 It was nasty. 64 00:02:23,961 --> 00:02:25,959 All three had multiple gunshot wounds. 65 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,959 Then the killer had put a shotgun cartridge 66 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,119 in each one of them's mouth, glued their lips together. 67 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,039 Doused their bodies in petrol. 68 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:33,880 Set them on fire. 69 00:02:33,881 --> 00:02:36,079 So when the fire reached the shotgun cartridge... 70 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,040 No teeth left. 71 00:02:37,041 --> 00:02:38,439 Not much head either. 72 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,039 Made identification a little tricky. 73 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,559 Yeah, except it didn't work. 74 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,679 Cause atkins had a metal pin in his arm, 75 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,719 from an accident a few years earlier. 76 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,879 And the pin survived the fire, 77 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,439 and identified him through the serial number. 78 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,479 Now the other two men 79 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,679 were assumed to have been William Finch. 80 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,279 And Darren Ellis. 81 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,919 They were known associated of atkins, 82 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:58,919 and had already been reported missing. 83 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:01,519 Both Finch and Ellis were petty criminals. 84 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,799 And again, no experience in armed robbery. 85 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,519 So whoever the fourth man was, 86 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,959 must have had the experience. 87 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,079 He put the job together. 88 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,959 And decided he didn't fancy sharing it four ways. 89 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,840 It was Michael denby. 90 00:03:11,841 --> 00:03:14,079 Possibly, Michael denby. 91 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Michel denby had known our three dead robbers, 92 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,760 from when they were kids. 93 00:03:17,761 --> 00:03:20,079 By all accounts, a thoroughly nasty piece of work. 94 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,159 He was one of those people, 95 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,279 even proper villains steer clear of. 96 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,679 Denby was a psycho. 97 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,439 He actively enjoyed inflicting pain. 98 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,959 I hate to be the one to bring this up, 99 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,559 but 10 million quid and a 30 year advantage. 100 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,319 He's long gone, mate. 101 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,599 Ah no, well there's the thing. 102 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,519 Couple of years ago, the French police arrested 103 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,919 one of the most successful con men they'd ever seen. 104 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,799 He's kept a string of safety deposit boxes, 105 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,039 all across Europe. 106 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,119 And one of them contained the lions share 107 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,039 of our missing bearer bonds. 108 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,159 Denby got conned. 109 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,319 It appears to have been some kind of property sting, 110 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,399 on the costa del sol. 111 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,240 And in his statement. 112 00:03:52,241 --> 00:03:53,839 The con man said he'd never met the man 113 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,999 that he obtained the bonds from. 114 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,199 But he believed him to be English. 115 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,359 And he also seemed sure that whoever it was, 116 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,719 had returned to england after he'd lost the money. 117 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,559 Although, we haven't been able to find him 118 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,119 by any of the usual means. 119 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,639 Well surely if we know full well 120 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,519 it was Michael denby all along, this is a man hunt. 121 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,599 What's it got to do with ucos. 122 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,839 We don't know that it was denby. 123 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,800 I'm certain it was him. 124 00:04:12,801 --> 00:04:16,439 I'm sure he masterminded the robbery, and killed his mates. 125 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,119 But I can't prove it in a court of law. 126 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,679 And no one is gonna spend money and manpower 127 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,439 looking for a suspect in a 30 year old case, 128 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,399 until they're sure we can make a conviction. 129 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,599 Frank's uncovered some new evidence, 130 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,399 which we're hoping will give us a fresh angle on the case. 131 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,519 Well, what new evidence? 132 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,959 I found the getaway car. 133 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,439 It's a Jaguar s type. 134 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,079 Oh, nice. 135 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,639 Whichever one of the gang was driving, 136 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,799 wasn't too handy behind the wheel. 137 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,079 According to an eye witness, 138 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,879 they lost the back end as they came into the road. 139 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,719 And stacked the thing into the streetlamp, 140 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,959 causing a fair bit of damage. 141 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,839 The car wasn't at the lockup, and we never found it. 142 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,079 Isn't it more likely it got torched? 143 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,959 People tend to report a burnt out jag, 144 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,879 so you'd expect it to turn up. 145 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,079 Even if all the evidence was burned away. 146 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,679 But we got nothing. 147 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,999 Which suggest somebody decided to keep hold of it. 148 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,359 Oh look at that, terrific! 149 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,879 Just a load of gas guzzling, air polluting toys. 150 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,160 For overgrown kids. 151 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Here we go. 152 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:18,719 I noticed this was coming up for auction, 153 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,759 so I looked into the paperwork. 154 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,039 It was bought a couple of months after the Heathrow job, 155 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,079 by a stock broker. 156 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,039 But the man who sold it to him, never existed. 157 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,999 Looks in pretty good Nick to me. 158 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,199 Yeah well, forensics will tell us 159 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,239 if it's ever been in a crash. 160 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,679 And what grounds exactly, 161 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,239 does our warrant say we have to whip this off to forensics? 162 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,319 Don't have a warrant. 163 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,320 We have a wallet. 164 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Lot 127 is a black s-type Jaguar, from 1967. 165 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,240 That's us. 166 00:05:47,241 --> 00:05:49,119 You mean we're actually gonna buy this car? 167 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,559 [Auctioneer] It's in immaculate condition, 168 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,239 with full service history. 169 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,999 The original owners manual. 170 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,199 And fully restored. 171 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,639 Sir it's me, we're on. 172 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,319 There's more to this than meets the eye. 173 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,879 Too right. 174 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:00,720 I can't remember strickland 175 00:06:00,721 --> 00:06:03,119 putting his hand in his pocket for anything. 176 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,399 Well it's not his money, is it. 177 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,360 It's our budget. 178 00:06:05,361 --> 00:06:07,759 Either way, Michael denby's been missing for 30 years. 179 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,359 Why are we so keen to catch him now? 180 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,639 Can I see an opening bid please, of 7,000 pounds. 181 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,159 How much? 182 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,399 Brian, it's a classic! 183 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,919 [Auctioneer] 7,000 I'm bid. 184 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,039 At 7,000, 8,000 at the back. 185 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,879 At 8,000 pounds. 186 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,759 At 8,000, 9,000 is bid. 187 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,600 We're on nine. 188 00:06:24,601 --> 00:06:28,799 [Auctioneer] At 9,000, 10,000 is back with the lady. 189 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,079 At 11,000 in the seats. 190 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:31,920 11,000. 191 00:06:31,921 --> 00:06:34,759 [Auctioneer] At 11, 12,000 at the back. 192 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,839 At 12,000. 193 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:37,000 13,000 is bid. 194 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,040 At 13,000. 195 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,799 14,000 with the lady at the back. 196 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,479 At 14,000... 197 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,159 250, I'm bid. 198 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,479 At 14,500 back with the lady at the back. 199 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,839 At 14,500... 200 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:53,840 Once... 201 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,759 Twice... 202 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,119 And gone! 203 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,839 -15,000 pounds- -14 and a half. 204 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:00,640 You've gone mad. 205 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,560 That's enough, Jack. 206 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,400 And you think we're stupid? 207 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,400 I said, enough! 208 00:07:03,401 --> 00:07:04,879 No, Jack's right. 209 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,159 I mean, you of all people 210 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,319 don't spend 15 grand of ucos budget. 211 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,079 On a car that might have been involved 212 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,639 in an armed robbery, 30 years ago! 213 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,319 And you certainly don't do it 214 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,439 on the say so of someone else, like frank Patterson. 215 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,440 No offence frank. 216 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,280 None taken. 217 00:07:19,281 --> 00:07:20,559 This is an important case. 218 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,479 Michael denby is a dangerous criminal, 219 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,919 still at large in this country. 220 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Governor, why don't you pull the other one. 221 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,559 Fine, you tell them. 222 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,560 Thank you. 223 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,479 We wanted to keep this quiet, 224 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,320 at least until we knew 225 00:07:35,321 --> 00:07:37,079 if the car could provide us with fresh leads. 226 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,079 But we think that Michael denby had help. 227 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,000 Help with what? 228 00:07:40,001 --> 00:07:41,879 He was ahead of us all the way. 229 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,119 He knew we were onto him. 230 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,199 That we knew the names of the other blokes on his crew. 231 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,679 That's why we think he killed them, 232 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,719 so there was no trail for us to follow. 233 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,040 How was he ahead of you? 234 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,599 He was being tipped off. 235 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,839 By who? 236 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,359 A copper. 237 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,280 You think one of your team, was whispering in denby's ear. 238 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,399 John felsham, my sergeant at the time. 239 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,519 John felsham? 240 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,639 As in... 241 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,119 Deputy assistant commissioner, John felsham? 242 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,439 This stays in this room. 243 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,359 I don't need to tell you what happens if it gets out, 244 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,200 that we're investigating- 245 00:08:15,201 --> 00:08:16,399 no, you don't! 246 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,959 And you don't have to tell us what will happen to ucos, 247 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,039 if you're wrong! 248 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,440 We're not wrong. 249 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,759 Says you. 250 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,199 You've had 30 years to prove this. 251 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,279 Didn't have the car. 252 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,879 Oh, and the car's going to prove everything is it? 253 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,159 The car could help us to build a fresh case 254 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,239 against Michael denby. 255 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,080 And if we can do that- 256 00:08:33,081 --> 00:08:34,359 and if we can find denby. 257 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,639 Then denby can give us felsham. 258 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,120 That's a lot of if's. 259 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,159 And an awful lot at stake, 260 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,199 if John felsham finds out we're investigating him. 261 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,200 [Upbeat jazz music] 262 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,799 Hi, detective super intendant Pullman. 263 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,679 - We're here about the jag. - The jag. 264 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:07,119 That's a nice car. 265 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Oh thanks, you can have a ride later if you want. 266 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,719 How many gearboxes have you been through? 267 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,759 A couple. 268 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,879 Well, it's an old car. 269 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,799 It's not age, it's bad driving. 270 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,159 Changing down to reduce your speed. 271 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,679 You shouldn't be using the engine to brake. 272 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,039 It's what the brakes are for. 273 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,559 Clue's in the name. 274 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:23,999 Amanda Armstrong. 275 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,320 This jag of yours is quite interesting, follow me. 276 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,720 She likes you. 277 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Oh, no! 278 00:09:33,161 --> 00:09:35,039 Makes you wanna cry, doesn't it. 279 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,359 Is this the one? 280 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,159 It's not that simple. 281 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,559 Nah never is, sweetheart. 282 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:42,279 Let's start with the paint job, that was easy. 283 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,759 According to your eye witness reports, 284 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,679 the getaway car was dark blue yeah? 285 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,599 As you can see, this one is black. 286 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,999 The chemical analysis tells us, 287 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,359 that this black paint was manufactured in 1993. 288 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,559 So we stripped that layer back, 289 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,519 and discovered that the car had been sprayed silver 290 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,079 around 1980. 291 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,279 Around the time of the robbery. 292 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,079 Yes, but that silver paint job was done properly. 293 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,919 The layers underneath were stripped back to the metal, 294 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,279 before the paint job was applied. 295 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,599 But there's no way of telling what colour it was before? 296 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,119 Well, a few years ago there wouldn't have been. 297 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,519 But now, we can look a lot closer at the panels. 298 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,719 You're never really going to completely get rid 299 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,879 of the original paintwork. 300 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,999 You can see here, some microscopic specs. 301 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,879 - Of? - Dark blue. 302 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,119 Can you date that? 303 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,759 Well this brand of paint was discontinued, in 1968. 304 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Yes! 305 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:23,520 What about damage. 306 00:10:23,521 --> 00:10:25,759 Can you tell whether the car's been in an accident, or not? 307 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,879 Yes, this one's been in a few. 308 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,239 It was involved in quite a nasty rear-end shunt 309 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,879 several years ago, courtesy of a BMW. 310 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,720 [Gerry laughing] 311 00:10:32,721 --> 00:10:33,959 Yeah, I know. 312 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,999 Anyway the accident you're referring to. 313 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,959 The panels on the front were a replacements, 314 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,559 so we learn nothing from those. 315 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:41,639 But, there were a few marks on the chassis itself. 316 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,239 And a dent in the radiator, there. 317 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,879 So we can extrapolate from those signs of damage, 318 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,239 and create a simulation 319 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,079 of what the original panel damage would have looked like. 320 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,999 And that is consistent with a car 321 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,559 hitting a lamp post at speed. 322 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:57,519 As your eye witnesses reported. 323 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,959 Can you tell when this happened? 324 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,839 Within a certain margin of error, yes. 325 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,359 The panels caved in and came into contact with the chassis, 326 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,919 hence the damage there. 327 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,359 Those marks contain microscopic traces 328 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,039 of the paint that was on the panels, 329 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,319 at the time of the crash. 330 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,039 - Dark blue? - Yes. 331 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,559 So this car hit a lamp post, 332 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:18,879 somewhere between the time it was manufactured and 1980. 333 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,880 When it was re-sprayed. 334 00:11:19,881 --> 00:11:20,999 That's a 12 year window. 335 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,439 Yeah, but I can do better than that. 336 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,879 Pollution, it builds up in layers 337 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,199 on any parts of the car that are impossible to clean. 338 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,399 Like the tiny marks in the chassis. 339 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,279 In the same layer that we found the blue paint, 340 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,479 we also discovered usually high traces of dinnsa. 341 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,320 Sorry? 342 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,280 Dinonylnaphthylsulfonic acid. 343 00:11:36,281 --> 00:11:39,119 It's an anti-static agent, most commonly found in jet fuel. 344 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,959 But only present in the air in these kind of concentrations- 345 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:42,999 around airports. 346 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,079 So the crash happened near an airport? 347 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,399 And we also found traces of pollen in the same layer, 348 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,359 which would suggest the crash happened in spring. 349 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,519 So this car was originally dark blue. 350 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,799 And it crashed into a lamp post near an airport, 351 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,359 in spring time. 352 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,200 Tell me that's enough. 353 00:11:56,201 --> 00:11:57,520 It's a good start. 354 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,719 We also went over the paperwork, with the dvla. 355 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,959 Here's the report. 356 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,799 And some odds and sods we found in the car. 357 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Nothing much of any use. 358 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,839 What's this? 359 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,639 That was found beneath the central console. 360 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,479 No long of knowing how long it was there. 361 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,919 But in the interests of thoroughness, 362 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,959 we ran the name through the computers. 363 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,079 There's a hell of a lot of Jose esquera's in the world, 364 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,920 I'm afraid. 365 00:12:19,921 --> 00:12:22,399 Okay, could you send all of this over to ucos. 366 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,799 And thank you so much for your time, Ms. Armstrong. 367 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,800 Cheers. 368 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,639 It's the right car. 369 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:28,959 - Maybe. - Maybe. 370 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,199 It wouldn't stand up in court. 371 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,399 And it wouldn't give us denby yet, let alone John felsham. 372 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,679 Well, what were you expecting? 373 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:35,439 A signed confession in the glove box? 374 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,199 I'm just saying, we need more. 375 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,919 Well according to this, 376 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,479 the car was stolen from its original owner. 377 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,199 Who's now of course, dead. 378 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,480 Just before the job. 379 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,119 Then it went missing for a couple of months, 380 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,719 when presumably it got painted that silver. 381 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,759 And was sold on by a car lot in woodford, 382 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,199 owned by a bloke called... 383 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,559 Tony mills. 384 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:58,119 Do you know him? 385 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,959 Yeah, the car lot's long gone apparently. 386 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,560 Yeah, but Tony's still around. 387 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,200 [Car engines roaring] 388 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,720 [Tony] Come on, come on. 389 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,399 He's losing half a second, every lap. 390 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,079 He drives like that tonight, 391 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,959 he'll be overtaken by a bloody milk float. 392 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,239 Tony mills? 393 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,679 Detective superintendent Pullman. 394 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,239 We're with the unsolved crime and open case squad. 395 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,639 That's where old coppers go to die, isn't it? 396 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,919 We're investigating an armed robbery at Heathrow airport, 397 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,279 in the April of 1980. 398 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,399 Bully for you. 399 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,759 The getaway car turned up 400 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,079 a couple of months after the job, 401 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,159 on the forecourt of your used car lot, in woodford. 402 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,759 We sold a lot of cars. 403 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,999 Yeah, but I'm sure you'll remember this one. 404 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,239 A 1967 405 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,119 Jaguar s-type. 406 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,759 - Nope. - Dark blue. 407 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,479 Oh a blue one was it. 408 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,320 Nope. 409 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,200 Mr. Mills, we can continue this- 410 00:14:04,201 --> 00:14:07,039 look love, I don't talk to coppers. 411 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,000 You wanna question me, 412 00:14:08,001 --> 00:14:10,359 you get some evidence about something I've done wrong. 413 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,919 Arrest me, and then we can have a little chat. 414 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,079 [Door slamming] 415 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,320 Frank, frank! 416 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,319 Hey, get off him! 417 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,039 Didn't recognise me did you Tony, eh? 418 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,959 - Been a long time, eh? - Leave it! 419 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Come on then frank, come on! 420 00:14:21,801 --> 00:14:23,839 Gerry, get him in the car. 421 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,759 -I can't leave you- -get him in the car! 422 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Come on out, you. 423 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,600 You two, out. 424 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,159 You think I won't hit a woman? 425 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,760 It'd be the last time you did. 426 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Michael denby. 427 00:14:37,481 --> 00:14:38,520 Never heard of him. 428 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Really, cause you look scared. 429 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,599 Now we know that you sold that car. 430 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,799 And given your previous form, 431 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,839 we're pretty sure you stole it in the first place. 432 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,079 - Now, hold on. - Don't worry. 433 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,599 I'm not about to arrest you for nicking a car 30 years ago. 434 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,199 Then what? 435 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,680 Tell me about Michael denby. 436 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,680 He was a nasty piece of work. 437 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,079 I stayed well clear of him, like everyone else. 438 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,239 Well not everyone, 439 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,719 cause there were four men on that Heathrow job. 440 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,919 Three of the wound up dead. 441 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,319 Denby killed them, and disappeared with the money. 442 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,120 So? 443 00:15:11,121 --> 00:15:13,199 So, if you stole a car to order for that job. 444 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,439 And then failed to get rid of it properly afterwards. 445 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,800 What were you meant to do by the way, torch it? 446 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,640 - I'm not saying a word. - Yeah. 447 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,880 You were meant to torch it. 448 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,359 But then you heard that denby's crew were all dead. 449 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,439 And denby had a done a runner. 450 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,440 So you thought, why bother. 451 00:15:28,441 --> 00:15:30,520 And you resprayed the car, and sold it on. 452 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,400 Michael denby's back in the country. 453 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:37,960 We've found the car. 454 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,079 Now sooner or later, denby's going to find that out. 455 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,799 Wouldn't it be a good idea, don't you think. 456 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,839 If we got to him first, before he got to you. 457 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,400 You wanna know about denby? 458 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,799 Look up Eddie Doyle. 459 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Who's Eddie Doyle? 460 00:15:52,721 --> 00:15:53,920 That's all you get. 461 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:56,960 One more stunt like that, 462 00:15:56,961 --> 00:15:58,919 and you're not coming within a mile of this case. 463 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,199 First and last warning. 464 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,399 Did you get anything out of him? 465 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,240 Yes, I did. 466 00:16:02,241 --> 00:16:03,719 And I managed to do it without attacking anyone. 467 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,120 - Brilliant. - Eddie Doyle. 468 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,319 What about him? 469 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,839 He said if we wanna know about Michael denby, 470 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,999 look up Eddie Doyle. 471 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,399 Nice job, well done Sandra. 472 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,439 Frank, do you know where Eddie Doyle is or not? 473 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,720 I do, indeed. 474 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,079 The softly, softly approach 475 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,919 really paid dividends, didn't it? 476 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,559 Did old Tony give up anyone else? 477 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,039 The cray twins maybe, or lord lucan? 478 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Ah, shut up. 479 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,359 Back when Michael denby was doing home invasion, 480 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,519 Eddie Doyle was his fence. 481 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,039 Doyle got pulled on some unrelated thing, 482 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,519 and give up denby as part of a bargain to stay outta Nick. 483 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,999 But before Doyle could testify, 484 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,119 someone cut his throat 485 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,159 and pulled his tongue out through the hole. 486 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Oh, the old columbian neck tie. 487 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,279 Mills gave you Eddie Doyle's name, 488 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,919 cause he wants us to know why 489 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,239 he has no intention of helping us with our inquiries. 490 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,559 The softly, softly approach is not gonna work here, Sandra. 491 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,439 If we want people like mills to talk, 492 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,879 they need to be as afraid of us 493 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,880 as they are of Michael denby. 494 00:17:03,881 --> 00:17:06,439 I don't need a lecture on police procedure from you, 495 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,639 all right? 496 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Nah, you're playing a blinder. 497 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:13,360 Come on, Gerry. 498 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,240 Go on, someone needs to keep an eye on him. 499 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,359 I wanna talk to John felsham. 500 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:28,320 What? 501 00:17:28,321 --> 00:17:30,159 No, why? 502 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,679 We find Michael denby. 503 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,239 And either he gives us felsham, or he doesn't. 504 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,679 If we go to felsham too soon- 505 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,999 what if the car's a dead end. 506 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,799 It's early days yet. 507 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,159 There's still the security guard, the inside man. 508 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,519 He might know something. 509 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,439 And I've tracked down Raymond Atkinson's widow. 510 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,279 Don't let the likes of frank Patterson 511 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,119 goad you into doing something stupid. 512 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:51,679 He's not goading me into anything. 513 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,319 John felsham is a suspect. 514 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,119 Since when did we not interview suspects. 515 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,239 He doesn't know he's a suspect. 516 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,279 And if he finds out, before we have a chance- 517 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,519 look, he was part of the original Heathrow investigation. 518 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,559 In a normal run of things, we'd be talking to him. 519 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,239 If anything, he'll be more suspicious if we don't. 520 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,240 Just... 521 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,839 Just be careful, Sandra. 522 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,559 Do we really think John felsham 523 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,839 was involved in all this? 524 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,719 You sure we're not just getting carried away? 525 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,919 Strickland seems to buy it. 526 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,920 He knows him better than anyone else. 527 00:18:19,921 --> 00:18:22,599 There's been rumours about felsham for years. 528 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,680 There's rumours about all sorts of folk. 529 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,319 I wanna see how he reacts to the mention of Michael denby. 530 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,319 You taking frank along with you? 531 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Don't be silly. 532 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,359 Talking of which, I hope Gerry's all right. 533 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:36,799 He'll be fine, Brian. 534 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:37,760 They're probably both passed out 535 00:18:37,761 --> 00:18:39,240 in front of the telly, by now. 536 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,760 [Upbeat electronic music] 537 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,599 I'm surprised Robert, you're letting ucos run with this. 538 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,399 Resources are stretched pretty thin. 539 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,799 There must be more worthwhile cases, 540 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,399 that would better justify the cost of your squad. 541 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,399 We think this one has legs. 542 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,839 We found the getaway car, a Jaguar s-type. 543 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,319 Forensics are working on it now. 544 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,799 I doubt they're gonna pull a 30 year old finger print 545 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,119 off the steering wheel. 546 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:12,680 Oh, the car may provide us with some other leads. 547 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Well... 548 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,279 The very best of luck. 549 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,079 Obviously if there's anything you can recall, 550 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,960 that might help us- 551 00:19:19,961 --> 00:19:22,680 I'm sure all my paperwork from the time is in order. 552 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Well, thank you for seeing us John. 553 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Anytime. 554 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,279 Thank you. 555 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,639 You're not going to ask the question, then? 556 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:38,640 Sir? 557 00:19:38,641 --> 00:19:41,440 Frank Patterson has told you I was in on it, somehow. 558 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Don't either of you ever take up poker. 559 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,799 Frank doesn't like me. 560 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,919 There's probably 30 years worth of reasons for that. 561 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,079 If you're re-opening this case, 562 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:53,920 cause you think 563 00:19:53,921 --> 00:19:55,759 you can finally bring Michael denby to justice. 564 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,199 The best of luck. 565 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,480 But don't go looking for me in the shadows. 566 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,720 Cause I'm not there. 567 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,080 And I never was. 568 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,360 Hello, George. 569 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,360 Mr. Patterson. 570 00:20:12,361 --> 00:20:14,519 George milligan, Gerry Stanley. 571 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,760 - You all right? - Yeah. 572 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,599 This is legit, Mr. Patterson. 573 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,279 I work for the agents that manage these blocks. 574 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,120 I'm the handy man. 575 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:23,960 Blocked toilets, 576 00:20:23,961 --> 00:20:26,599 and changing the batteries in the smoke alarm. 577 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,719 At your age you should be working through your pension 578 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,919 on a nice beach, George. 579 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,319 On no, I forgot. 580 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,120 You blew your whole life, didn't ya. 581 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,279 [Door slamming] 582 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,159 Mind if we tag along? 583 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,160 Yes, I do. 584 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,879 See Gerry, George here used to work security 585 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,079 at a safety deposit place in Heathrow. 586 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,559 I've got nothing to say to you. 587 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,599 One day he gets it into his head, 588 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,679 he might make a nice few quid selling out his mates 589 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,519 to a bunch of thugs with shotguns. 590 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,880 But it didn't quite work out like that, did it? 591 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,719 Did eight years inside, 592 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,839 for conspiracy to commit armed robbery. 593 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Didn't you George? 594 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:11,160 Did he fail to mention that, when you gave him the keys? 595 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,159 That was out of order, and you know it. 596 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,679 Was it, sorry about that. 597 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,759 Me and my big mouth, eh. 598 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,159 Why don't we let you buy us a cup of coffee, 599 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,600 to make up or it. 600 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,959 I didn't know who Raymond atkins was. 601 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,599 Didn't know anything about him. 602 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,480 We got talking in a bar, one night. 603 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,559 Just two blokes talking. 604 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,239 I told him what I did, where I worked. 605 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,839 And that seemed to get his interest up. 606 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,319 And then he came back a couple of nights later, 607 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,399 bought me a few drinks. 608 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,999 And told me that he wanted me to help him 609 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,200 and some of his mates, knock the place off. 610 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,479 And you thought, why not? 611 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,320 Too right. 612 00:21:49,321 --> 00:21:52,479 Was a rotten job with rotten hours, and rotten money. 613 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,560 This seemed a way out. 614 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,319 And ray said no one was going to get hurt. 615 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,920 Apart from the two mates of yours, they shot dead. 616 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:01,919 Ray said no one was gonna get hurt. 617 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,399 And you'd never met atkins before that night in the pub? 618 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,279 Never, and if I hadn't got talking to- 619 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,159 everything would have been different. 620 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,480 Oh stop it George, you're making me well up. 621 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,919 So as far as you're concerned, 622 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,119 atkins was the brains behind the operation. 623 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:18,119 Ray? [Laughs] 624 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,079 Nah, ray was a monkey. 625 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,199 He wasn't the brains of anything. 626 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,720 So who, then? 627 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,160 Michael denby. 628 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,919 He'd come to the pub sometimes with ray. 629 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,159 And denby would sit in the corner on his own, 630 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,399 while ray came and talked to me. 631 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,439 You never spoke to denby about the job. 632 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,599 I never spoke to denby at all. 633 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,959 And believe me. 634 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,399 One look in those eyes and you knew this was a man, 635 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,159 you didn't want to strike up a conversation with. 636 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,759 So all you can actually tell us, 637 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,519 is that atkins and denby knew each other. 638 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,639 You can't confirm that denby was in charge of the show. 639 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,359 See what we're getting at here, George. 640 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,479 We need some actual evidence, 641 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,039 that denby was involved in the job. 642 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,639 Well they were as thick as thieves! 643 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,239 Something more than that, ya prat. 644 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,479 Denby never spoke to me about the job. 645 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,479 Well he was careful, you gotta give him that. 646 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Did you ever see atkins talk to anybody else? 647 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,999 - No. - What about denby? 648 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560 Well once, but they weren't exactly talking. 649 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,759 A couple of streets across from my local, 650 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,319 there's this pub called the greenwood. 651 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,719 I used to walk past it on my way home. 652 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,559 And one night, a few days before the job. 653 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,519 I saw denby in a car outside, 654 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,599 getting his leg over some girl. 655 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,440 Who? 656 00:23:29,441 --> 00:23:30,879 I have no idea, it was dark. 657 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,079 And I knew it was denby, 658 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,960 because I saw the tattoo on his arm. 659 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,519 I couldn't see the girls face. 660 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,919 And do you know what? 661 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,559 I didn't think it was quite the right time 662 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,840 to tap on the window, and introduce myself. 663 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,399 - Christine Johnson? - Yeah? 664 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,559 - Formally Christine atkins? - Yeah. 665 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,399 My name is Jack halford, this is Brian Lane. 666 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,159 We're with the metropolitan police. 667 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,679 I wonder if you could spare us a few minutes of your time? 668 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,200 - Yeah, come in. - Thank you. 669 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,999 Did you know Raymond was planning the robbery, 670 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,199 at Heathrow airport? 671 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,799 No, I knew he was up to something, he always was. 672 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,399 But planning is a bit strong. 673 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,439 Oh? 674 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,400 Well, I don't mean to speak ill of... 675 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,799 I loved Raymond for all his faults, 676 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,999 but he wasn't exactly goldfinger. 677 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,639 In your original statement, 678 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,279 you said that denby was the brains behind it all. 679 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,120 That's right. 680 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:26,960 Is that what Raymond told you? 681 00:24:26,961 --> 00:24:29,359 Ray never told me anything about work. 682 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:30,200 Then how did you- 683 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,000 I'm not going to pretend 684 00:24:31,001 --> 00:24:32,959 that ray wasn't a nasty piece of work. 685 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,479 In many ways he was. 686 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,439 He never laid a finger on me, he wasn't like that. 687 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,519 But ray was small time, he'd never admit it. 688 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,639 He had all the big chat, but he never had the ambition. 689 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,679 Not really, not to come up with something like that. 690 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,279 Not to think he could get away with all that money, 691 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,600 off his own bat. 692 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,399 It wasn't ray, ray didn't kill those two security guards. 693 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,240 That's as maybe, 694 00:24:56,241 --> 00:24:57,919 but have you any proof that it was Michael denby 695 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,359 who was calling the shots? 696 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,039 You see, the problem we have. 697 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,959 Is that since neither Raymond nor denby, 698 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,559 or any of the other gang, 699 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,759 had committed that kind of robbery before- 700 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,479 they had done it before. 701 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,919 Excuse me? 702 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,880 Heathrow wasn't the first time. 703 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,319 They'd done an armed robbery, six months earlier. 704 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,599 Well there's no record of- 705 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,439 they didn't get caught. 706 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,279 They didn't get the money either, something went wrong. 707 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,719 I wasn't supposed to know about it, 708 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,399 but I overheard ray on the phone. 709 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,959 There were four of them. 710 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Ray, William Finch, derren Ellis, and Michael denby. 711 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,000 And it was all denby's idea that time, as well. 712 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,239 A security Van, 10 pike Lane, November 1979. 713 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,759 A four man team tried to Rob it, 714 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,319 but they got their timing wrong. 715 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,839 They arrived just as the Van was leaving. 716 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,479 So they tried to run it off the road, 717 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,599 but the Van got away and the gang were never caught. 718 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,879 File is being sent over. 719 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,479 Why the hell didn't Christine atkins 720 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,799 mention this at the time. 721 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,919 I interviewed her myself. 722 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,839 Intimidation. 723 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,640 What? 724 00:26:00,641 --> 00:26:01,919 She said you came on a bit strong. 725 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,479 Made some very unpleasant remarks, 726 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,399 about her recently murdered husband. 727 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,240 Hard to believe, that. 728 00:26:06,241 --> 00:26:08,399 Said she wasn't inclined to tell you anything 729 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,240 she didn't have to. 730 00:26:09,241 --> 00:26:10,479 Well, that's charming. 731 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,319 Just because it was a four man team, 732 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,919 doesn't mean it was the same people. 733 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,839 That's true, but there's an interesting detail. 734 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,679 The gang messed up the timing, 735 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,640 but they didn't get it that wrong. 736 00:26:18,641 --> 00:26:19,919 They were at the right place. 737 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,199 They were just a few minutes too late. 738 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,599 And these vans never loaded up at the same place, 739 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,560 at the same time. 740 00:26:24,561 --> 00:26:25,759 They varies their routines, 741 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,719 precisely so that no one could anticipate them. 742 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,039 So if the gang knew where they were gonna be, 743 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,839 then they had to have inside info. 744 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,680 Exactly. 745 00:26:32,681 --> 00:26:34,199 And the firm operating the Van? 746 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,639 Cronux security. 747 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,679 The same firm that ran the Heathrow safety deposit. 748 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,719 So a four man team, hitting the same security firm. 749 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,279 Using an inside man. 750 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,679 But not George milligan. 751 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Why not? 752 00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:48,279 Because he didn't get his job at cronux, 753 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,999 until a month later. 754 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,840 Then who? 755 00:26:50,841 --> 00:26:52,079 I don't know yet. 756 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,199 But is it possible, 757 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,079 that whoever provided the original inside info. 758 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,839 Also led the gang to milligan, 759 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,999 as the inside man for their second attempt? 760 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,359 Meaning that milligan's meeting with Raymond atkins, 761 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,079 might not have been a chance encounter. 762 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,960 You're saying I was set up. 763 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,159 That ray atkins deliberately got talking to me 764 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879 that night in the pub? 765 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,599 Finally, the penny drops. 766 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,959 Well that would mean it wasn't my fault. 767 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359 You still helped set up an armed robbery. 768 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,439 During which, two of your co-workers got killed. 769 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,079 Yes but I mean, it wasn't just fate. 770 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,799 It didn't all happen because I got into talking with ray, 771 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,159 because he was already looking for me. 772 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Who could have put him onto you? 773 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,040 I don't know, 774 00:27:33,041 --> 00:27:35,399 I mean lots of people knew it was my local. 775 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,759 What about the people at work? 776 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,319 Yeah, some of them. 777 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,639 So we're looking for someone from cronux security, 778 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,479 who knew enough about you to put Raymond atkins onto you. 779 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,399 And who also knew the timetables of the security vans. 780 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,719 Nah, there's no one. 781 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,519 I mean they're two completely separate sides of the company. 782 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,000 No one outside of head office could get access... 783 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,519 David Murray, he was my boss at Heathrow. 784 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,719 But before that, he was running the armoured vans. 785 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,360 And they moved him across about a month after I joined. 786 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,359 I didn't know him beyond a nod, 787 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,599 if we passed in the corridor. 788 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,359 But the last time I saw him, he was looking ragged. 789 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,199 It looked like he hadn't slept. 790 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,799 Trouble at home, is what I heard. 791 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,360 His marriage was falling apart. 792 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,799 David Murray. 793 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,319 Ah, this is great. 794 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,239 Can you hold on one minute please, thanks. 795 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,279 Looks like milligan could be right. 796 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,599 David Murray was promoted from overseeing security vans, 797 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,159 to his position at Heathrow. 798 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,599 Well when was this? 799 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,280 Five months before the job. 800 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,719 Before he was at cronux, he was a captain in the army. 801 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,080 Wounded in Belfast. 802 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,159 And discharged in 1978. 803 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,679 That's brilliant Barry, thanks a lot. 804 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,680 Tough guy. 805 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,720 What you thinking? 806 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,039 I'm wondering whether his involvement in all this, 807 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,160 stopped at just providing information. 808 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,999 Atkins, Ellis and Finch were all shot at point blank range. 809 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,039 Yeah, my Michael denby. 810 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,639 Probably, yeah. 811 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,199 But it sounds as if David Murray 812 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,639 might have had a stomach for it, as well. 813 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,079 So maybe Michael denby isn't the only one 814 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,759 who can give us John felsham. 815 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Perhaps David Murray can. 816 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,879 I'm afraid you're about 30 years too late 817 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,000 to see my husband. 818 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,919 Can I get you some tea, coffee? 819 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,519 It's only instant I'm afraid. 820 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,040 No thanks, we're fine. 821 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,679 Your husband, David. 822 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,360 He's gone, long gone. 823 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,959 30 years and counting. 824 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,839 I came back from work one day. 825 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,439 And he'd packed his bags and left a note, 826 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,799 saying he wouldn't be back. 827 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,679 Put some money in the joint account. 828 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,839 Paid off the mortgage, in cash. 829 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,119 Don't ask me where he got that from. 830 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,719 And that was the last I heard of him. 831 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,639 Have you any idea where he might be? 832 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,760 Off with some woman. 833 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,879 I hope they're very happy. 834 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,039 Well I try to think that. 835 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,799 There's no point in baring grudges after all this time, 836 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,640 is there? 837 00:30:05,641 --> 00:30:07,039 Do you know who the woman was? 838 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,000 I don't know her name. 839 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Someone from work. 840 00:30:09,001 --> 00:30:11,839 This'll be cronux security. 841 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,959 That's right, yeah. 842 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,039 That was the only job he had, after the army. 843 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,919 We met after he was discharged. 844 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,399 I was visiting my mum in hospital. 845 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,480 She was on her way out, leukaemia. 846 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,159 David was in having his leg looked at. 847 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,880 It never quite mended, after what happened in Ireland. 848 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,319 I don't blame David for what he was. 849 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,599 You go through an experience like he did over there, 850 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,759 and it leaves it Mark I suppose. 851 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,160 Leaves its Mark, how? 852 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,399 Nightmares, night terrors I suppose you could call it. 853 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,440 So he hit the bottle. 854 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,679 Booze was the only thing that seemed to have an effect. 855 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,439 He'd go out drinking, gambling. 856 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,159 He's liked a flutter before, but- 857 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,759 did he have any gambling debts? 858 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,960 Oh, I should think so. 859 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,359 I asked once, but that was another downside of the booze. 860 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,679 You ask the wrong question, 861 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,360 you felt the back of David's hand. 862 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,280 Ancient history. 863 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,999 Were there any particular friends that you can recall? 864 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,039 Raymond atkins, Michael denby? 865 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,880 No. 866 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,880 John felsham? 867 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,839 You are aware of the robbery that took place. 868 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,479 Heathrow airport? 869 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Yes. 870 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,199 Did he ever talk to you about that? 871 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,120 We were barely talking at all, by then. 872 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,719 I know he was in some trouble at work about it. 873 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,319 And I know two of his boys got hurt. 874 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,320 Killed. 875 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,199 I hardly saw him at all, around that time. 876 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,479 I assumed he was working late. 877 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,199 But he was probably off with that girlfriend of his. 878 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,959 When exactly did he leave? 879 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,919 April the 30th, 1980. 880 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,720 About two weeks after the robbery. 881 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Are you saying 882 00:31:46,881 --> 00:31:48,439 you think David had something to do with it? 883 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,519 You were saying he paid off your mortgage in cash. 884 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,400 Did he have any savings he might have used, to do that? 885 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,719 What about relatives? 886 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,799 Were there any he might still be in touch with? 887 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,439 No, his dad died about eight years ago. 888 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,520 He was the last one. 889 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,000 I went to the funeral, David wasn't there. 890 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,760 You think he's off somewhere with her? 891 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Sitting on a beach, with all that money? 892 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,120 Life of Riley. 893 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,160 Oh, never mind. 894 00:32:21,161 --> 00:32:23,599 Thanks anyway, bye. 895 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,159 David Murray had access to the armoured Van timetables. 896 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,879 And all the info on Heathrow warehouse security. 897 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,359 He had a drinking problem, he had gambling debts. 898 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,839 And then having paid off his mortgage in cash. 899 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,519 It seems that he ran off with his girlfriend, 900 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,439 just two weeks after the Heathrow robbery. 901 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,919 I wanna know who that girlfriend was. 902 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,559 Well I've got the employment records 903 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,879 for cronux securities, here. 904 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,439 But there were a lot of women working there at the time, 905 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,679 so it's gonna take a while tracking them all down. 906 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,959 What about aliases that Murray could be living under. 907 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,559 Mother's maiden name. 908 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,400 I'm doing that. 909 00:32:53,401 --> 00:32:55,319 The army are sending over lists of the people 910 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,839 that Murray served with in northern Ireland. 911 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,719 In case he kept up with any of his old army mates. 912 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,999 Maybe one of them has heard from him. 913 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,639 After the Heathrow robbery, 914 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,719 we interviewed all the relevant cronux security employees. 915 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,079 David Murray was interviewed by John felsham on his own. 916 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,679 Felsham's report says Murray was as clean as a whistle. 917 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,279 No mention of the booze, gambling debts, nothing. 918 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,519 Well either he was the worst detective 919 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,679 the flying squad ever had... 920 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,359 Or he's lying. 921 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,159 We still don't have any solid evidence on felsham. 922 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,999 We need to find Murray or denby, and get them to talk. 923 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,479 And I think at the moments, Murray's our best option. 924 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,440 Is that the time already, drink anyone? 925 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,599 Suit yourself, ladies. 926 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,600 Sleep tight. 927 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,480 What? 928 00:33:43,481 --> 00:33:45,279 - He's up to something. - So? 929 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,440 Go and find out what. 930 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400 [Mellow rock music] 931 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,479 You got some. 932 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,199 I thought you lot would have been different. 933 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,919 Bunch of ex-coppers, proper coppers. 934 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,920 We are. 935 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,080 Left up here. 936 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,759 Where are we going? 937 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,799 You'll see, old mother hen's got you all worked up 938 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,800 about proper procedure and protocol. 939 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,399 Are you referring to detective superintendent Pullman. 940 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,680 That's what felsham's relying on. 941 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:21,200 Once we get round there, 942 00:34:21,201 --> 00:34:23,240 just pull up on the right hand side. 943 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,599 Right you are. 944 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Here you are. 945 00:34:27,441 --> 00:34:28,680 No thank you. 946 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,800 Right. 947 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:45,199 I'm having one drink and that is it. 948 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,879 I'll always sort you a ride home Gerald, 949 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,199 you know that. 950 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,999 Anyone fun later, this is work. 951 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239 This was one of Michael denby's old watering holes, 952 00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:54,759 back in the day. 953 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,919 Nothing much has changed here, 954 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,879 except the clientele ain't as pretty as they used to be. 955 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,079 George milligan said he saw denby snogging a girl, 956 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,319 in a car outside here. 957 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,680 I want to know who she was. 958 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,320 [Pub chattering] 959 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,959 Oh, you do bring me to the nicest places. 960 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,960 Pint? 961 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,039 Yes please. 962 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,559 Two pints of export love, and two whiskey chasers. 963 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,800 Er no excuse me, can you make mine bitter. 964 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,360 You remember Michael denby, don't ya pat. 965 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,919 Course you do. 966 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,159 Every time you look in the mirror, 967 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,400 must remind you of that glass he pushed in your face. 968 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,879 Mind you, face like yours. 969 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,880 You probably don't really do mirrors, do ya. 970 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,319 You ever see denby with a girl? 971 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,799 This'll be about, what... 972 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,480 April, 1980. 973 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,159 Do you think he's gone deaf? 974 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,799 I dunno frank, but I don't think we're very popular. 975 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,640 Rubbish, they love me in here. 976 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,679 Come on pat, you didn't miss a thing back then. 977 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,999 All right, let's take it easy. 978 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,919 You wanna think very carefully about your next move, mate. 979 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,039 You could land yourself in very serious trouble. 980 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,599 So could you, frank. 981 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,520 Impersonating a police officer's a serious crime. 982 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,719 What you doing here? 983 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,759 Come to make sure no one talks? 984 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,959 You seem to be doing that very well without my help. 985 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,359 I think it's time we went, mate. 986 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,839 Well, well. 987 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,880 Gerry Stanley. 988 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,399 Robert strickland's certainly got the creme De la creme 989 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,759 on his squad, doesn't he? 990 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,919 Must be like the dirty dozen over there. 991 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,719 We popped in for a quiet drink, what about you? 992 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:53,879 Well, it's a free country. 993 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,720 I'd join you if- 994 00:36:54,721 --> 00:36:56,759 but you wouldn't be welcome. 995 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,640 You're tilting at windmills, frank. 996 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,159 You're gonna do some serious damage to Gerry here, 997 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,040 and to you other friends. 998 00:37:03,041 --> 00:37:04,799 - Is that a threat? - Frank! 999 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,800 [Laughs] Hardly. 1000 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,279 Come on, you screwed up a case 30 years ago. 1001 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,719 The guy got away. 1002 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,079 Happens to the best of us. 1003 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,280 Come on, time we went. 1004 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,960 Except that you were hardly the best of us. 1005 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,880 You what? 1006 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,759 Face it, you were never that good frank. 1007 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,080 You were just arrogant. 1008 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,639 Things didn't go your way, it was also someone else's fault. 1009 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,839 You were always the first one to point the finger. 1010 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,279 He's winding you up, that's all! 1011 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,519 Why don't you take up golf or something, frank. 1012 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,320 Come on. 1013 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,160 You're gonna be better at that, 1014 00:37:37,161 --> 00:37:38,321 than you were at police work. 1015 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,959 No frank, no! 1016 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,879 [Men groaning] 1017 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,479 Leave it, frank! 1018 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,480 Leave it! 1019 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,040 No! 1020 00:37:50,041 --> 00:37:51,639 Calm down, calm down. 1021 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,839 Take it easy. 1022 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,719 We're old bill and it's private, all right? 1023 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,919 [Sirens wailing] 1024 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,840 I told you I'd sort you a ride home. 1025 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,439 What were you thinking, Gerry? 1026 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,199 - Me? - It was my fault. 1027 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,439 Gerry had nothing to do with it. 1028 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,719 He was responsible for you. 1029 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:08,640 I am a grown up. 1030 00:38:08,641 --> 00:38:09,679 Hardly. 1031 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,599 Governor, this is all wrong. 1032 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,999 We went to that pub in the hope that we could find someone, 1033 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,999 who could remember who Michael denby's girlfriend was. 1034 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,479 What was felsham doing there? 1035 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,480 Well exactly, it's hardly a pub where the dac would drink. 1036 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,600 I'm listening. 1037 00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:25,239 Well there was no time or anyone in that pub 1038 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,399 to have got hold of felsham, and told him we were there. 1039 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,240 And then for him to turn up. 1040 00:38:28,241 --> 00:38:29,599 So, he must have followed you. 1041 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,440 Exactly. 1042 00:38:30,441 --> 00:38:32,159 And he was winding frank up. 1043 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,000 Winding him up, how? 1044 00:38:33,001 --> 00:38:34,799 Well I was trying to get us out, right? 1045 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,039 But felsham wouldn't let it go. 1046 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,599 He kept having a pop. 1047 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,959 It was like he wanted frank to lose his rag. 1048 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,800 Why would he want that? 1049 00:38:41,801 --> 00:38:43,199 To discredit the investigation, 1050 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,999 before we have a chance to get anything on him. 1051 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,919 I'm afraid it worked. 1052 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,799 Gerry, Jack, Brian. 1053 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,839 I have to ask you to clear your desks. 1054 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,599 You're not serious? 1055 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,839 We went after a deputy assistant commissioner, 1056 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,919 but instead of doing it quietly and by the book. 1057 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,799 You confronted the guy, and then assaulted him. 1058 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,839 As of now, you no longer work for ucos. 1059 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,840 Any of you. 1060 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,800 Just like that. 1061 00:39:03,801 --> 00:39:05,319 Detective superintendent Pullman and I, 1062 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,959 are going to see dac felsham. 1063 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,719 In the hope that we might persuade him 1064 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,879 not to request an official inquiry, 1065 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,359 or bring criminal charges against frank and Gerry. 1066 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,679 But Jack and I weren't even there! 1067 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,719 We're already retired, Brian. 1068 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:18,839 We're expendable. 1069 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,519 You have one hour. 1070 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,599 Leave all your files where they are, 1071 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,879 take your personal belongings only. 1072 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,319 And hand your passes in upstairs. 1073 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,559 - Sandra. - You can't do this. 1074 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,239 This is exactly what felsham wants. 1075 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:28,319 I don't have any choice, I'm afraid. 1076 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,280 Sir, this is ridiculous! 1077 00:39:29,281 --> 00:39:31,360 It's over, detective superintendent. 1078 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,279 John felsham wants you suspended, pending an inquiry. 1079 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,399 If you want to keep your job, 1080 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,400 I suggest you come upstairs with me now. 1081 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160 [Door banging] 1082 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,719 Frank Patterson doesn't technically work for you, Carson. 1083 00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:59,479 He certainly wasn't acting under orders 1084 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,439 from detective superintendent Pullman last night. 1085 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,839 Detective superintendent, 1086 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,559 I wonder how long you'll manage to hang on to that job. 1087 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,399 What were you doing at the greenwood inn last night, sir? 1088 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,200 Sandra. 1089 00:40:09,201 --> 00:40:10,919 You're on very thin ice, miss Pullman. 1090 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,559 Sir, I'm simply trying to acertian- 1091 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,040 I never liked your father. 1092 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,160 And I'm beginning to like you even less. 1093 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,039 Perhaps you should excuse us, Sandra. 1094 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,199 No sir, I don't think that- 1095 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,800 that wasn't a suggestion! 1096 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,999 It's pity you didn't have that kind of control 1097 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,799 over your subordinates, yesterday. 1098 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,359 The investigation is over, John. 1099 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,479 Brian Lane, Jack halford and Gerry standing 1100 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,719 no longer work for ucos. 1101 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,680 Well that'll do for starters, Robert. 1102 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,720 But don't think I've finished yet. 1103 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,800 [Melancholy instrumental music] 1104 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,639 Well you didn't think we'd give it up, did you? 1105 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,199 If strickland knew you were doing this... 1106 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,599 What's he gonna do? 1107 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,879 He can't sack us twice. 1108 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,079 The only reason that felsham would shut us down, 1109 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,599 is if he thought we were close to finding something. 1110 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,199 If we let this go Sandra, then it's the end of ucos. 1111 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,200 Felsham wins. 1112 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,400 - Getting anywhere? - No. 1113 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,999 Anne hargreaves, used to be Anne Forsyth 1114 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,959 when she was working at cronux security. 1115 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,279 She's the woman that David Murray 1116 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,640 was having the affair with. 1117 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,600 I was never here. 1118 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,639 I'm afraid you seem to have got David Murray all wrong. 1119 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,599 I know it's a long time ago, but I don't think my memory 1120 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,479 has started playing tricks on me just yet. 1121 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,159 But you did have an affair with him, Mrs. Hargreaves. 1122 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,639 Anne, please. 1123 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,279 An affair, I'd hardly call it that. 1124 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,399 Certainly not by today's standards. 1125 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,479 There was something, though. 1126 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,719 Well yes, but not sex. 1127 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,519 Might have got there eventually. 1128 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,239 I wouldn't have minded if it had, but... 1129 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,879 No I think David saw me more of a confident. 1130 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,880 A shoulder to cry on. 1131 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,480 Really what he wanted, was to make it work with Elaine. 1132 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,559 There's not chance on earth 1133 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,799 David had anything to do with that Heathrow business. 1134 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,079 You do know that, don't you. 1135 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,319 We really would like to talk to David Murray, 1136 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,479 in connection with our investigation. 1137 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,639 When's the last time you heard from him? 1138 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,879 Oh well, it would be around about... 1139 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,159 January of 1980. 1140 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,199 I'd left cronux security at Christmas. 1141 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,199 Had a job offer up north, more money. 1142 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,679 And it was due to start mid-January. 1143 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,159 And David called me up out of the blue, 1144 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,319 while I was packing up my flat for the move. 1145 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,160 Wanted to have a drink. 1146 00:44:10,161 --> 00:44:12,479 And your relation with him at that time was... 1147 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,280 Oh, it was over. 1148 00:44:13,281 --> 00:44:15,319 Whatever it had been. 1149 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,199 No, we'd been close for a few months the previous Autumn. 1150 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,399 But we'd stopped seeing each other that winter. 1151 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,639 Like I said, David wanted to make a go of it with Elaine. 1152 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,999 And I suppose if I'm honest, that was one of the reasons 1153 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,959 why I decided to take this other job. 1154 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,999 And move away. 1155 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,519 So hold on, you had a whatever it was with David Murray. 1156 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,119 We became close because David's marriage was on the rocks. 1157 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,119 That was because of the drinking and the gambling. 1158 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,039 No, no that's what I'm saying. 1159 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,879 I mean David liked to drink occasionally, 1160 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,239 but he was no gambler. 1161 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:50,079 He was quite careful with money, disciplined. 1162 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,400 Probably something to do with having been in the army. 1163 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,639 No his marriage was in trouble, 1164 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,560 because his wife was having an affair. 1165 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,400 Elaine was? 1166 00:44:58,401 --> 00:45:00,199 Well, Elaine Murray told us- 1167 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,079 Elaine Murray was a nasty piece of work, 1168 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,319 through and though. 1169 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,200 I wouldn't believe a word 1170 00:45:05,201 --> 00:45:06,639 that came out of that woman's mouth. 1171 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,359 So, what was really going on? 1172 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,799 Well, David found out that Elaine was seeing someone else. 1173 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,600 And he said... 1174 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,839 [Sighs] What was the phrase he used... 1175 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,479 Professionally compromised. 1176 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,839 He said that Elaine and her fella 1177 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,079 had professionally compromised him. 1178 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,920 What did he mean by that? 1179 00:45:26,921 --> 00:45:29,160 I don't know, he wouldn't tell me. 1180 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,199 I do know that he gave Elaine an ultimatum. 1181 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,959 Either she stopped seeing this man, 1182 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,559 or he'd tell everyone what they'd done. 1183 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,919 And it seemed to work, because a couple of weeks later. 1184 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,399 David called to call the whole thing off with me, 1185 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,999 and said that he and Elaine were starting afresh. 1186 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,479 So why did he want to see you, that last time? 1187 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,639 Cause she'd start it up again, of course. 1188 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,680 Elaine's affair. 1189 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,040 David was so upset. 1190 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,639 He said he was going to call in a favour 1191 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,799 from an old army friend, 1192 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,520 to get this friend to warn the boyfriend off for good. 1193 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,919 No idea if it worked or not, 1194 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,439 cause I moved north the next day. 1195 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,919 And never heard from David again. 1196 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,920 This boyfriend of Elaine, you remember his name? 1197 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,560 - Dolby perhaps, derby? - Denby? 1198 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,879 Denby, that was it. 1199 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,160 Michael denby. 1200 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,679 You were expressly told to clear your desks, 1201 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,520 and go home. 1202 00:46:29,521 --> 00:46:30,559 That was an order. 1203 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,360 I am at home. 1204 00:46:31,361 --> 00:46:32,599 With all due respect, 1205 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,759 we don't have to take orders from you anymore. 1206 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,799 You fired us, remember? 1207 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,439 We're concerned citizens, 1208 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,879 bringing evidence of a crime 1209 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,879 to the attention of the metropolitan police. 1210 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,439 I'm not seeing any evidence, just a lot of hearsay. 1211 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,719 Do you believe that John felsham 1212 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:46,560 is involved with this, sir? 1213 00:46:46,561 --> 00:46:48,799 What I believe, and what I can prove- 1214 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,199 John felsham provoked frank into assaulting him, 1215 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,919 just so that he could close down this investigation. 1216 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,439 With or without your permission, 1217 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,200 we're not going to let that happen. 1218 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,679 Nothing Anne hargreaves said to you, 1219 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,439 is admissible in court. 1220 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,439 She said she'd make a statement any time we need her to. 1221 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,359 Even then, she can't like felsham to any of this. 1222 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,959 Not directly, no. 1223 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,599 But Murray knew about denby and Elaine's affair. 1224 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,599 He also knew that they'd attempted 1225 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,679 the original armoured car robbery. 1226 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,959 And if he didn't know about the Heathrow job beforehand, 1227 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,239 the minute it happened he'd know that denby was behind it. 1228 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:25,759 Felsham interviewed David Murray on his own, 1229 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,879 after the robbery. 1230 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,599 And his report said nothing about any of this. 1231 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,759 That proves that felsham's lying. 1232 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,079 No, it doesn't. 1233 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,679 Perhaps Murray kept quiet, to protect his wife. 1234 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,079 - No. - No, what? 1235 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,759 Felsham knew, he knew before he interviewed Murray. 1236 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,600 How? 1237 00:47:42,601 --> 00:47:44,719 It's the link we're looking for. 1238 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,519 Anne hargreaves said the last time she saw David Murray, 1239 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,359 he was gonna talk to an old army mate of his. 1240 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,879 Have this guy frighten off denby. 1241 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,720 And? 1242 00:47:53,721 --> 00:47:55,839 What regiment was Murray with in northern Ireland? 1243 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,359 The cheshire rifles. 1244 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,239 It's staring us in the face. 1245 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,199 Before he was a cop, John felsham was in the same regiment. 1246 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,519 And if he already knew David Murray... 1247 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,439 Murray calls felsham. 1248 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,439 Asks him to scare off Michael denby. 1249 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,559 Instead, denby cuts felsham in. 1250 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,599 If that's the case, 1251 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,239 felsham knew about the Heathrow job in advance. 1252 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,439 That's a good theory, but there's not a shred of proof. 1253 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,799 Then we've got to find David Murray, and ask him. 1254 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,199 He could be anywhere. 1255 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,239 And if he's crossed denby, there's a good chance he's dead. 1256 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:30,159 Either way, I bet Elaine Murray knows where he is. 1257 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,599 So if we go back to Elaine, 1258 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,919 with what Anne hargreaves has told us. 1259 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,479 Maybe she'll start telling the truth. 1260 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,879 Yeah, or she tips felsham off 1261 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,079 that we're still on the case. 1262 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,559 Elaine Murray is the only person who knows the truth. 1263 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,639 I don't see that we have any choice, sir. 1264 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,239 If we're wrong about this... 1265 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,080 I know. 1266 00:48:45,081 --> 00:48:48,279 If we're wrong, we pay with our careers. 1267 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,280 Well I'll tell you what. 1268 00:48:49,281 --> 00:48:51,119 I'd give you my warrant card now, 1269 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,159 if it'd put John felsham behind bars. 1270 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,319 Yeah. 1271 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,320 Me too. 1272 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,080 [Soft instrumental music] 1273 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:12,959 Elaine Murray quit her job here, 1274 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,919 and left about two hours ago. 1275 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,479 That nurse said she had a suitcase with her. 1276 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,679 Done a runner. 1277 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,560 Yeah, well she can't have got far. 1278 00:49:18,561 --> 00:49:21,040 I'll alert all the ports, airports, eurostar. 1279 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,239 What's he up to? 1280 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,559 Oh, dunno. 1281 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,640 Get him back, Gerry. 1282 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,400 Frank, what's up? 1283 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,759 What you doing? 1284 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,959 Hello, Michael. 1285 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,960 Michael? 1286 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,960 Bloody hell, get the governor in here quick! 1287 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,640 - What? - It's him! 1288 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,840 Michael denby. 1289 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,040 Are you sure? 1290 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,719 He's had the tattoo removed. 1291 00:49:58,720 --> 00:49:59,680 Nice try, son. 1292 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,520 What's wrong with him? 1293 00:50:00,521 --> 00:50:02,159 It's Alzheimer's. 1294 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,039 Mr. Esquera's has been getting progressively worse, 1295 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,079 for the last six years. 1296 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,319 Jose esquera? 1297 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,120 Yes. 1298 00:50:07,121 --> 00:50:08,240 ID bracelet in the jag. 1299 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,039 Is it time or tea, darling? 1300 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,839 [Nurse] Not yet, you've just had your lunch. 1301 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,319 He doesn't even know where he is anymore, 1302 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,479 let alone what his name is. 1303 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,079 Nice try, you're nicked mate. 1304 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,319 [Nurse] You can't arrest the residents. 1305 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,039 You're going down for the rest of your life. 1306 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,359 [Nurse] Causing him distress in his condition, 1307 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,200 is actually- 1308 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,040 [Gerry] Frank, frank. 1309 00:50:24,041 --> 00:50:25,079 He doesn't know what you're talking about, mate. 1310 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,199 Rubbish, he's here. 1311 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,719 - He knows what he did. - Frank. 1312 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:29,560 He knows what he did. 1313 00:50:29,561 --> 00:50:32,079 [Brian] Frank he doesn't, look at him. 1314 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,519 He's faking, he's not getting off that easy. 1315 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,040 He killed five men. 1316 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,079 He killed five men. 1317 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,559 [Sandra] Frank, he doesn't remember. 1318 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,200 I'm going to fetch the manager. 1319 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,159 I got you, if you're in there somewhere. 1320 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,160 I got you. 1321 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,680 [Upbeat jazz music] 1322 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,479 Find a nice little country pub, and have some lunch. 1323 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,480 - Be nice. - Yeah. 1324 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,839 Same story as the three men denby killed, 1325 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,439 after the Heathrow job. 1326 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,919 Bodies burned beyond recognition, 1327 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,639 and there's a shotgun cartridge in his mouth. 1328 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,439 Which has destroyed his teeth, 1329 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,599 and taken away most of the head. 1330 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,679 There's also preexisting damage to the right leg, 1331 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,919 which is consistent with the injury Murray received 1332 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,079 in northern Ireland. 1333 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,639 It's him, he's dead. 1334 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,399 Our last chance. 1335 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,320 Denby's gone mad. 1336 00:52:12,321 --> 00:52:14,399 Elaine Murray's statement doesn't carry the weight 1337 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,319 to nail felsham in court. 1338 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,679 And the last remaining person that could have sunk felsham, 1339 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,079 turns out he's been rotting here or the last 30 years. 1340 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,039 Probably thanks to John felsham. 1341 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,479 Just another allegation we can't prove. 1342 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,679 So, what do we do now then? 1343 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,999 We home. 1344 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,559 Sorry chaps, this one's my fault. 1345 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,159 No ones going anywhere, this isn't over yet. 1346 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,359 Yes it is Sandra, this time. 1347 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,999 John felsham is a suspect. 1348 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,119 We've been so busy trying to get someone to incriminate him, 1349 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,839 we've forgotten the basic rule of policing. 1350 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,680 Which is? 1351 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,520 Somewhere along the line, 1352 00:52:42,521 --> 00:52:44,520 he's bound to have incriminated himself. 1353 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,560 [Door knocking] 1354 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,999 I don't have time for you today, Robert. 1355 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,199 We thought you'd like to know, 1356 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,000 we have Michael denby in custody. 1357 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:00,960 Really? 1358 00:53:00,961 --> 00:53:03,599 Yeah, we found him in a retirement home. 1359 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,559 Suffering from advanced Alzheimer's. 1360 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,959 It appears he doesn't know who he is, 1361 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,319 nor does he remember anything of his criminal past. 1362 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,160 There's some question 1363 00:53:11,161 --> 00:53:13,680 as the whether he can be tried for any of his crimes. 1364 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,559 It's off the books, at least. 1365 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,800 We arrested Elaine Murray too, John. 1366 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,640 Elaine Murray. 1367 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,319 No, afraid I don't... 1368 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,319 Wife of David Murray, who worked at cronux security. 1369 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,439 It turns out that Elaine and Michael denby were lovers. 1370 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,639 Elaine was stealing information from her husband, 1371 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,239 and passing it to denby. 1372 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:37,599 The Heathrow robbery was the result of that. 1373 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,279 David Murray. 1374 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,639 Yeah... 1375 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,119 Believe I may have interviewed him myself, 1376 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,399 in the aftermath of Heathrow. 1377 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,479 Yes, you did sir. 1378 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,559 You also served with him, in northern Ireland. 1379 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,160 Did I, really. 1380 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,999 Well that was a long time ago, 1381 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,359 I served with a great many people I don't remember. 1382 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,519 He remembered you. 1383 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,119 Yes apparently he contacted you, 1384 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,999 when he found out that his wife and denby 1385 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,999 had resumed their affair. 1386 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,559 He asked you to warn denby off. 1387 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,839 [Laughs] Told you this himself, did he? 1388 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,359 No sir, David Murray is dead. 1389 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,439 Elaine Murray has made a statement. 1390 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,119 Confessing to her part of the Heathrow robbery. 1391 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,960 In that statement, 1392 00:54:14,961 --> 00:54:16,959 she claims that you approached Michael denby. 1393 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,239 But rather than warning him off, 1394 00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:22,039 you asked to be cut in on the Heathrow job. 1395 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,319 In return for your silence. 1396 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,719 This is nonsense. 1397 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:26,879 She claims that you allowed the robbery to go ahead. 1398 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,799 I'm not prepared to listen to any more of this baseless- 1399 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,999 and that after the robbery, you approached David Murray. 1400 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,679 -In the guise of a- -this is outrageous! 1401 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,119 In the guise of a routine interview, 1402 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,119 and tried to persuade him to keep his mouth shut. 1403 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,000 Did you offer him money? 1404 00:54:39,001 --> 00:54:40,359 That's your badge gone, Pullman. 1405 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,320 He wouldn't play ball, though. 1406 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,200 So you warned denby, 1407 00:54:42,201 --> 00:54:43,719 that Murray was about to spill everything he knew. 1408 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,319 Get out of my office! 1409 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,759 Raymond atkins, William Finch, and Darren Ellis, 1410 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:48,600 were already dead. 1411 00:54:48,601 --> 00:54:50,159 But you and denby would never be safe 1412 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,120 if Murray was allowed to talk. 1413 00:54:51,121 --> 00:54:52,559 Robert, get this women out of my- 1414 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,560 shut up, John! 1415 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,999 You served with him in the army, 1416 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,119 and he came to you for help. 1417 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,720 As a friend, he trusted you. 1418 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,520 And you told Michael denby to kill him. 1419 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,480 You're trying to rial me, aren't you. 1420 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,639 Your entire case is based on the statement of a woman, 1421 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,079 who would say anything to reduce her sentence. 1422 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,519 On a charge of conspiracy 1423 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,640 to commit armed robbery, and murder. 1424 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,520 You have no evidence against me, at all. 1425 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,040 Jose esquera. 1426 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:30,560 I've never heard of him. 1427 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,560 Are you sure? 1428 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,159 Of course I'm sure, get out of my office. 1429 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,679 It's always the little lies that get us in the end, 1430 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,959 isn't it. 1431 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,919 You incriminated yourself, sir. 1432 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,599 30 years ago. 1433 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,719 Jose esquera. 1434 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:45,999 An identity bracelet was found in the getaway car, 1435 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,719 bearing that name. 1436 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,519 When we finally tracked down Michael denby, 1437 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,559 it turned out that he was living as Jose esquera. 1438 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,599 Presumable that identity bracelet was part of his cover. 1439 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,399 The fact that he lost it in the getaway car, 1440 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,039 suggests that he already had his escape planned 1441 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,319 at the time of the Heathrow job. 1442 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,879 Jose esquera, the real Jose esquera was a Spanish tourist. 1443 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,840 Who was mugged and killed 1444 00:56:06,841 --> 00:56:09,919 near piccadilly circus one night, in 1978. 1445 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,199 You were the investigating officer, your first murder case. 1446 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,359 Who doesn't remember their first murder case? 1447 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,559 You admitted all his possessions into evidence. 1448 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,759 Including the identity bracelet he was wearing. 1449 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,599 Then in 1980, two weeks before the Heathrow job. 1450 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,160 You checked them out of the evidence archive again. 1451 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,199 We even have your signature on the log. 1452 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,199 And they were never returned. 1453 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,319 Passport, driving licence, identity card. 1454 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,399 You provided Michael denby with everything he needed, 1455 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,200 to get out of the country and start a new life in Spain. 1456 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,839 But in order to make that getaway clean. 1457 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,839 And to cover up your involvement in armed robbery. 1458 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,080 Several people had to die first, didn't they? 1459 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,880 Before you say anything, sir. 1460 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,399 Deputy assistant commissioner, John felsham. 1461 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,879 I'm arresting you for conspiracy to commit armed robbery, 1462 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,720 for perverting the course of justice. 1463 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,879 And for conspiracy to commit the murders 1464 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,439 of Raymond atkins, Darren Ellis. 1465 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,560 William Finch, and David Murray. 1466 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,079 You do not have to say anything, 1467 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,439 but it may harm your defence 1468 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,599 if you do not mention when questioned, 1469 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,240 something which you intend to rely on in court. 1470 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,079 [Frank] I've waited a long time to see that. 1471 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,080 Well, it paid of. 1472 00:57:25,081 --> 00:57:26,719 Well done, all of you. 1473 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,279 Does that mean we've got our jobs back then? 1474 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,839 Well technically, you never lost them. 1475 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,840 How's that? 1476 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,199 It takes a lot of paperwork when you fire someone, Jack. 1477 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,279 Yeah, but what if we'd all just gone home. 1478 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,200 Like you told us to. 1479 00:57:38,201 --> 00:57:39,759 What if you'd obeyed a direct order, you mean. 1480 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,319 When does that ever happen? 1481 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,359 I feel used. 1482 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,399 Well don't, feel appreciated Brian. 1483 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,240 All of you. 1484 00:57:45,241 --> 00:57:47,079 Thank you sir, you've just made them unbearable. 1485 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,359 Oh, I thought they already were. 1486 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,279 Cause for a celebration. 1487 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,159 A proper night out. 1488 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,919 No thanks, paperwork I'm afraid. 1489 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,159 I better give her a hand. 1490 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,800 Esther's doing Shepherd's pie. 1491 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,560 Come on Gerry, just a quiet one. 1492 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,399 A quiet one? 1493 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,919 You buckle up, franky boy. 1494 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,200 We're going large! 1495 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,559 ♪ It's all right ♪ 1496 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,879 ♪ it's okay ♪ 1497 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,639 ♪ doesn't really matter if you're old and grey ♪ 1498 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,959 ♪ it's all right ♪ 1499 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,279 ♪ I say, it's okay ♪ 1500 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,479 ♪ listen to what I say ♪ 1501 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,519 ♪ it's all right ♪ 1502 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,839 ♪ doing fine ♪ 1503 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,679 ♪ doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine ♪ 1504 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,759 ♪ it's all right ♪ 1505 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,399 ♪ I say, it's okay ♪ 1506 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,920 ♪ we're getting to the end of the day ♪ 110451

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