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You bring me to the nicest places.
If this case is as open and shut
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as strickland thinks it is,
hopefully we won't be here too long.
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So this bloke Davies wants to make
a confession 25 years after the event.
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Have we spoken to his
mental health officer?
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He does have a link to the missing
boy. He was a friend of the family.
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So what? His conscience
got the better of him?
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Maybe he found religion
when he was inside.
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Yeah there's got to be another
reason for all this. What?
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Oi, oi, paedo! Come out
your house, man. Oi, paedo!
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What you hiding behind your door
for? You nonce, man. For a start,
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the local wildlife
seems... Take this, man.
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Let's get out of here, man!
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Wait here.
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Tyres screech
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are you detective superintendent
Pullman? She'll be here in a moment.
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She's just doing a bit
of community policing.
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Shit, man.
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I've just had this
jacket cleaned.
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I'm arresting you for
assaulting a police officer.
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♪ It's all right it's ok
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♪ doesn't really matter
if you're old and grey
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♪ it's all right I say it's ok
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♪ listen to what I say
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♪ it's all right, doing fine
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♪ doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine
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♪ it's all right I say it's ok
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♪ we're gettin' to
the end of the day. ♪
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Sandra?
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Take them to the interview
room. I'll be down in a minute.
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Anything I should be aware of?
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We think they may be part
of the reason why Davies
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decided to confess. How so?
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He's had to move four times
since he was released from prison.
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So?
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That's four times in
the last six months.
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Every time he settles in
someone tips off the locals
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and the next thing he knows
there's pitchforks and torches
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as far as the eye
can see. Again. So?
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So maybe he feels safer in prison
than he does back on the streets.
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I'm afraid my concern is for the safety of
the streets, not of a convicted paedophile.
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Especially one who's confessing to the
kidnap and murder of a five-year-old child.
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Yeah, and I feel the same way too, but I would like to
get to the truth before I hand things over to the cps.
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And that's what I want
you to do, of course.
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For the tape, mr Davies, can we remind you
that you are entitled to legal representation,
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but you've decided
to waive that right.
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I just want to get on
with this. Ok? Fine.
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I want to confess to the kidnap of
yasser gorton-blackledge in 1985.
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It was me, I took him.
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Ok, but why are you
confessing now, 25 years later?
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Because it's the
right thing to do.
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I realised that
when I was in prison.
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I realised I had to
pay for what I'd done.
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Then why didn't you confess when
you were still inside? I wish I had.
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Really? Because according to your file you
applied for parole at the earliest opportunity.
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You were released because you'd shown
willing in all the psychiatric treatment
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and rehabilitation
opportunities you were offered.
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Mr Davies, you wrote a ten-page statement
in support of your parole application.
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Listen, I don't
belong on the streets.
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You need to put me away.
Just put me back in prison.
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Surprisingly, it's
not as simple as that.
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We need to know whether
you're telling us the truth. I am.
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All right, let's start with
what happened to yasser.
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He was taken from his parents at a protest
march and never seen again. Where is he?
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All right, where's his body?
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It's gone. Gone where? You don't have to
give us a map reference, just a general idea.
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We'll find it. No, you won't.
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I dumped the body
at sea. Really?
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Yeah. And how did you
do that? Did you hire a boat?
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How did you get him from London
to the coast? Did you have a car?
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Provide us with some details.
How long did you have him?
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Could anybody have seen the two
of you together? Look, I've confessed.
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Isn't that enough for you?
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Well, isn't it? No! Because
he didn't bloody do it, Gerry.
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Yeah, but he did plenty of other stuff. You've
seen his file. I have, and this crime doesn't fit.
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She's right.
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Davies used his position as a teacher to
groom adolescent lads, not little children,
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and he never kidnapped anyone.
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He was cleverer
than that. Cleverer?
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Ok, sly, mendacious.
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He was a different kind of predator, and he
never used physical violence on his victims.
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That doesn't make me feel any more comfortable
about him being back on the streets.
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He'd agree with you. He doesn't
want to be out. That's why he confessed.
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He'd rather see out his days in a safe cell
on d-wing than live in fear in a council flat.
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So what do we do? Well,
he's not going anywhere.
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Let's just read the files
and take it from there.
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April 20th, 1985.
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There was a demo against
Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
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In attendance was the Islington
branch of the free Palestine coalition,
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leading lights of which were husband and
wife team Anne gorton and Fred blackledge.
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Accompanying them was
their young son, yasser.
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Named after...
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That's obvious, isn't it?
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Now, the last reported sighting of him was
on the north side of westminster bridge.
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The marchers were crossing from south towards
the houses of parliament. This was at 2.00pm.
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Hold on, hold on, the kid wasn't
reported missing till 8.00pm.
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That's how long apparently it took
before the parents realised he was missing.
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What? God, some parents
don't deserve to have kids.
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Which is exactly
what the press said.
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Yeah, well, they were very sympathetic at
first, you know, playing up the victim angle.
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Until this came to
light. Look at them.
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And then journalists started
asking very awkward questions.
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And answering them. They said that Anne and
Fred were dangerous left-wing activists,
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too obsessed with
politics to care for their kid.
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They were particularly hard on
Anne, saying she'd failed as a mother.
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Maybe she did?
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Yes, I had a call
from dac strickland.
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He said that Davies had
finally done the right thing.
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Finally?
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It was fairly obvious once
we found out about his history.
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He lived locally, he'd been
to meetings in our home.
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Yasser knew him and must have
trusted him enough to go with him.
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It all makes sense, doesn't it? We'll
still have to do a proper investigation.
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Wouldn't be a problem
for you, would it?
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"Miscarriages of British justice,"
"rough justice in modern britain."
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"Are we living in
a police state?"
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I work for a civil liberties campaign group.
That's where the real battle lies now.
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The day is coming where we won't
be able to go anywhere, meet anyone,
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say anything without it being recorded
and noted down by those in power.
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Cctv, Internet monitoring,
illegal phone taps.
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If you don't do anything wrong,
there's nothing to worry about.
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Well, it depends who's deciding
what's right or wrong, doesn't it?
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Still, if there had been
cctv on westminster bridge...
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Oh, I'm aware of the
double-edged sword.
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If my son's disappearance
had been properly investigated...
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You don't think it was? I think you let the
press do your job for you the first time round.
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Well, there'll be no press
involvement this time.
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But we will need you and
your husband to cooperate.
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Ex-husband.
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Fred and I separated after...
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After yasser.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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We'd been on different
paths for a long time.
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Emotionally and politically.
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In short, feminism is
a fascist movement,
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hell bent on reducing men to
the rank of second-class citizens.
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Just as the Jews were
demonised by the Nazis,
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so the feminazis have waged a
propaganda war against a whole gender.
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We are violent in the home
according to the social workers.
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We are obsolete
according to the scientists.
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How long before this fascism is
pursued to its inevitable conclusion?
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Gender cleansing?
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We'll expand on
this theme next week.
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Please do the
reading. Thank you.
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That's quite a theory
you've got there.
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Not theory, fact.
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Can I help you? My name's halford,
I called your office, I'm from ucos.
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You're here about yasser?
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I'd like to talk to you about
the day he went missing.
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And about John Davies?
Anything you can tell me.
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I can tell you the poor bastard
was as much a victim as yasser was.
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Oh, really? You
don't think he did it?
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You heard what I had to say about
the feminist propaganda machine.
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For the last century we've been told
over and over that men are predators,
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just interested in violence and sex, and
some men have chosen to believe this,
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to allow themselves to be debased
by it. Davies was one of them.
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Ok. Professor blackledge, you were
the last person to see yasser alive.
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Yes, I didn't know
that at the time.
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Yasser had been with us all day. He was riding
on people's shoulders, banging his drum,
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shouting all the slogans.
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When we got to westminster tube, Anne decided
she wanted to go home. She had a headache.
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I thought she'd
taken yasser with her.
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Yasser was having
such a good time,
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I didn't want to take
him home and spoil it.
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Did you say that to Fred?
I said, "yasser will be ok?"
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And he nodded.
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But he thought I meant
yasser would be ok with me.
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I suppose it was an
easy mistake to make.
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And then you just went home?
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I took a couple of aspirin,
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made some food for
when they got back,
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and sat in the garden
with a cup of tea.
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Then Fred came home.
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I thought she
was joking at first.
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I thought he was upstairs in
his bed, I even went up to check.
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But then...
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It felt like the bottom
had fallen out of my world.
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So you called the police?
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That's when it got real.
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First few days we thought of
him as just lost, that he'd turn up,
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one way or another, but then the police
started talking about him as a missing child.
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Not lost, taken.
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The river police trawled up
and down that part of the thames.
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They handed out
photos in the area.
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Nothing.
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Then they advised
us to involve the press,
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get the word out.
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But of course, that backfired.
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The coverage was pretty damning.
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Not until Jamie Peters
sold them that picture.
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Hold on, who was Jamie Peters?
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A comrade, or so we thought.
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He'd been part of the
campaign for years.
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Totally dedicated to the cause.
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I'd like to know how much
the press paid for that picture.
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And why didn't he sell them one of yasser
on Fred's shoulders, or holding my hand?
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I think you know
the answer to that.
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The journalists spoke to our friends,
our family, trying to find some dirt on us.
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And when they
couldn't, they made it up.
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They crucified us day after day.
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How long after that were
you and Fred divorced?
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About 18 months.
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We were so careful
with each other at first,
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walking on eggshells.
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And then one night the
dam broke and it all came out.
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I blamed him, he blamed me, we threw in a few other
issues just to make it hurt that little bit more
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and then it was over,
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and he left. 'I learnt
a valuable lesson.'
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men are always to blame.
Just pick up a paper.
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We cause war, famine, economic
meltdown, while women are blameless.
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Well, that's all we've been
told, over and over again.
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Well, there's probably a reason...
Take the global warming myth.
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They call it man-made
climate change.
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Man-made. As if a woman
never drove a car or took a flight.
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You see, this is what
we're fighting against.
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It's a woman's world,
and we just live in it.
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You do realise that, don't you?
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What a load of bollocks.
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I can't believe
they let him teach.
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And write books.
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Loads of them about Soviet
Russia, China, fidel Castro.
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Then he goes all middle eastern and publishes
a couple about gaza and the zionist conspiracy.
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Oooh, then it's all about
those pesky feminists.
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How's this for a title?
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The secret war on modern men.
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Sounds good.
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Stick to your cook books, Gerry.
Yeah, you'd like that, wouldn't you?
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Me tied to a kitchen
sink, seen and not heard.
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I'm not sure I buy all this
misunderstanding on westminster bridge.
229
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Nah, one of them would have said goodbye,
told him who was looking after him.
230
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I think one of them's lying.
231
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Or both of them. It's a very convenient
way to provide each other with an alibi.
232
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You think they killed their son?
233
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Maybe not on purpose, but I
don't think we should rule it out.
234
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Has anyone considered that little unsupervised
yasser might just have wandered away?
235
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I know they trawled the river,
but that was six hours later.
236
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I've been thinking about that. I've
been on a few demos in me time.
237
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Have you? Oh, yes, when
Esther and I were courting.
238
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She was quite the ragged-trousered
philanthropist in her day.
239
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Those demos were always heavily
policed. Especially around westminster.
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Tell me about it.
241
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You went on a demo?
I can believe it of him.
242
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No, in uniform!
243
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Yeah, keeping the peace.
244
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Actually I spent the whole day being called a pig
or a capitalist running dog. "Kill the police!"
245
00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,799
Yeah, they're all
the same, that lot.
246
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Who do they run to when
their bikes get nicked?
247
00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,319
Well, just to be sure, I looked up the met's
policing guidelines for demos at the time.
248
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There's a memo from the chief constable a
week before suggesting that cover was doubled
249
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on westminster bridge
and around parliament.
250
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Not the best place
to snatch a child.
251
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Maybe he did just wander off?
252
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In which case, I think we need to track down all
the other people on that march with Fred and Anne
253
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and ask them what
they remember seeing.
254
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There we are.
255
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Well, what's the matter with
it? No, nothing, it looks lovely.
256
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It's just...
257
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I remember a time when this was the
last thing you'd want to be doing. What?
258
00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,999
Getting the tea on the table in
time for your husband coming home.
259
00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,679
What was it you and
your gang used to call it?
260
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Domestic slavery.
261
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Well, that was a long time ago.
262
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You were going to defeat the
forces of oppression, that was it.
263
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So what happened?
264
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What happens to most people. We
got married, we had Mark, real life!
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Esther, you were going
to lead a revolution!
266
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No, I wasn't! Well, you
went to all the meetings.
267
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Yeah, along with some student
teachers, an ageing social worker,
268
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and that woman who used to
sell woolly hats at Camden market.
269
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That's who I was going to Manning
the barricades with. Yeah, still...
270
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We'd all have been
dead by teatime.
271
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Morning, ma'am. Morning.
272
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Mr Davies? Are you
waiting for me? Yes.
273
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I was wondering if you were going to
be arresting me today? Probably not.
274
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Why not?
275
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What do I need to do
to get you to believe me?
276
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Provide some evidence.
277
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Tell us where to find the
body. Give us some details.
278
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Well, it's me own fault.
279
00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,079
I've domesticated her.
280
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Stolen her fire.
281
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,760
Oh, I don't know. I think your
Esther's still got plenty of that.
282
00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,919
Hello, you, um, wanted
to see me? Gillian withall?
283
00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,279
That's right. I'm Jack halford,
this is Brian Lane. How do you do?
284
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Hello. Were you ever a member of the Islington
branch of the free Palestine campaign?
285
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,319
Oh, god, in another life.
Erm, 20-odd years ago.
286
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We'd like to talk to you about the
disappearance of yasser gorton-blackledge.
287
00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,399
Right. You better come
through. Thank you.
288
00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,799
I met Fred at north
London university.
289
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You were a student? No, no, no, I was a nurse at
the university health centre dishing out pills -
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pregnancy tests and penicillin.
291
00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,399
It was the summer of '84 and the students
had occupied the building as a protest.
292
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Protest about what?
293
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They were going to occupy the building
until Israel stopped occupying Palestine.
294
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Well, that worked(!)
295
00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,679
I was there as a first aider. I
had no interest in politics at all
296
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and then I got talking to Fred.
297
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Next thing I know I'm going
to meetings and demos and...
298
00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,879
Looking back on it, I think it was
all a bit of a distraction. From what?
299
00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,959
I'd just been through a divorce.
300
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,399
It was nice to have some new friends.
You remember yasser, do you? Of course.
301
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,079
Poor little thing. How so?
302
00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,799
Well...
303
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,359
It didn't surprise me
that he wandered off.
304
00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:38,119
He never had any boundaries.
305
00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:42,519
The house was always full of
strangers for meetings and demos.
306
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,719
He went to all the
rallies and protests.
307
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:49,319
I mean, maybe it was just a matter
of time before something happened.
308
00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,879
So, you would agree with what
the press said about Anne and Fred?
309
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,879
They were negligent parents?
I wouldn't go as far as that.
310
00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,639
How far would
you go? I just think
311
00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,399
they didn't realise how lucky they
were to have yasser until it was too late.
312
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,279
What about John Davies?
313
00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,519
Do you think he showed any
inappropriate attention to yasser?
314
00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,159
No, no, not as
far as I remember.
315
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,999
To be honest, he was only
ever at a couple of the meetings,
316
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,079
and then I think he came out of
politeness. What do you mean?
317
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,999
Well, he was a teacher
at the local school.
318
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,279
Was he? It doesn't
bear thinking about.
319
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,759
Anne was on the board of governors, I think she
nagged him into coming to a couple of the meetings.
320
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,479
The thing about Fred and
Anne is they always assumed
321
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,159
that everyone was as committed
to the cause as they were.
322
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,399
They didn't realise that
some people would just
323
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,079
pick up a leaflet or sign a petition
just to get them off their backs.
324
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,239
And on this the demo, was Davies
there? Not as far as I remember, no.
325
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,439
After yasser went missing,
how did Anne and Fred seem?
326
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,719
I have no idea. The demo was
the last time I saw any of the group.
327
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,519
It was sort of like
my leaving party.
328
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,199
Big party. Where
were you going? Sudan.
329
00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,079
I'd volunteered to work as a
nurse in the refugee camps.
330
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,519
Wow, that was
brave. Very admirable.
331
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,839
I would never have dreamt of doing
it if it hadn't been for Fred and Anne.
332
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,159
They certainly
broadened my horizons.
333
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,039
How long were you there?
334
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:17,519
Two hard, dirty,
traumatic, amazing years.
335
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,919
It was the best and worst
thing I've ever done. I still miss it.
336
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,719
Why did you come back?
337
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,119
I wanted my son to
have a British education.
338
00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:27,239
Oh, you have a son?
339
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,959
Was he a friend of yasser's?
340
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,159
Did Davies ever talk to him?
No, no, no, I didn't have him then.
341
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,439
So you were pregnant while you
were working in the refugee camps?
342
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,599
That must have been hard. I'm
surprised you weren't just sent home.
343
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,280
No, you don't understand. I
adopted will while I was out there
344
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,879
quite a souvenir to bring back,
eh? Better than a stick of rock.
345
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,999
I'm hoping he might have other pictures
from that day. Crowd shots maybe.
346
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,039
Featuring your local
neighbourhood nonce, John Davies!
347
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,399
Well, that would be extremely
helpful, but I won't hold my breath.
348
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,519
No, I'm more interested in seeing
whether that shot was taken out of context
349
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,999
or whether they really
were being negligent.
350
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,679
Yeah, that's the one
there. At least I hope it is.
351
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,039
He was living here in '85 and
I've got no record of him moving
352
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,280
you know how I love a long shot.
353
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,999
Hello, detective superintendent
Pullman. Does Jamie Peters live here?
354
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,919
Er, he does, but he's away with work
at the moment. Can I get him to call you?
355
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,679
Yeah, thanks, I'll give you my
card. Will he know what it's about?
356
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,199
Yeah, it's about yasser
gorton-blackledge,
357
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,999
who went missing in 1985.
358
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,799
Oh, ok. He'll be in touch.
359
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,399
Cheers. Bye-bye.
360
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,919
Thank you. Bye.
361
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,599
Long shot paid off.
362
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,039
We spoke to several members of the group and
they all said pretty much the same thing.
363
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,959
Thank you. They
weren't bad parents.
364
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,479
Just a bit distracted?
365
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,879
Yeah, we got the same story.
366
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,919
And as for yasser,
367
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,599
he was just happy to
go along for the ride.
368
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,439
Very self-reliant.
Maybe he had to be.
369
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,959
Gillian withall
described him as lonely.
370
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,799
And? Well, lonely boys
are easy prey for predators.
371
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,599
A few kind words,
a bag of sweets...
372
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,559
But hardly any of them
even remembered Davies.
373
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,039
And those that did don't remember
him being interested in yasser.
374
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,919
Of course they wouldn't notice. I mean,
what did you call him? Mendacious?
375
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,239
These blokes are smart. They
know how to keep under the radar.
376
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,919
I mean, how long was he a teacher before anyone
knew what was going on? Best part of ten years.
377
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:39,839
Yeah, and that's why we've got this surveillance
culture that Anne gorton campaigns against.
378
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,640
Some people need to
be under surveillance.
379
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,199
What now? He says he's got
some new information for us.
380
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,759
Go on.
381
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,479
Yasser had a toy car with him
when I took him. A little red one.
382
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,199
And where is it now?
383
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,479
I don't know.
384
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,679
You don't have it?
385
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,559
No. It must be with the body.
386
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,679
Which is at sea! Ask
Anne gorton about it.
387
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,479
Ask her. She'll tell you.
388
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,880
I'll be at home when
you're ready to arrest me.
389
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,999
Sandra?
390
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,559
Are you here to talk
about John Davies?
391
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:30,239
Actually, I'm here to ask why you were knocking
on the door of an mi5 safe house this morning.
392
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,479
I wasn't aware I was.
393
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,159
You asked for a Jamie Peters?
394
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,799
That's an active alias
for one of their agents.
395
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,320
Oh, is it now?
396
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,159
Mi5. Who would have thought?
397
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,519
Mind you, I've always
fancied a look inside.
398
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,559
Yeah, it would make a nice change to interfere in
one of their cases instead of the other way round.
399
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,839
I expect there'll be some
serious security though.
400
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,439
Retina scans, full-body
metal detectors.
401
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,840
Come on, let's get on with it.
402
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,120
There you go.
403
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,679
Thank you. Is that it?
404
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,119
Yes. Richard will take you down.
405
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,919
This way, gentlemen.
After you, miss Moneypenny.
406
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,039
You see, that's a mistake
a lot of people make.
407
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,719
What? James Bond
was actually MI6.
408
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,399
MI6 are the spies.
409
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,039
Mi5 are the spy catchers.
410
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,479
We've given you temporary
low-level clearance.
411
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,879
So, I am able to tell you that Jamie
Peters was an operative in the '80s
412
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,239
tasked with intelligence gathering
within fringe political organisations.
413
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,279
Anne gorton, Fred blackledge and the free
palestinian group were placed under surveillance
414
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:56,399
because we believed at the time that they had links to
other less benign groups in the middle east. Did they?
415
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,119
Probably not. They did
have an unusual amount
416
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:05,079
of contact with foreign nationals, but they were usually
just overseas students they'd taken in as lodgers.
417
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,119
Fred blackledge did
visit a few hot spots.
418
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,039
China, Cuba, east
Germany, the Soviet union.
419
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,879
Yeah, well, he was writing
books about those places.
420
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,919
And what happened
to our man in Islington?
421
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,079
Jamie was reassigned
after the boy disappeared
422
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,159
to avoid his becoming embroiled in
the metropolitan police's investigation.
423
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,039
To explain the sudden withdrawal
from the gorton-blackledge social circle
424
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,879
we released some photos
to the press in Jamie's name.
425
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,760
And made it look like he'd sold them
down the river and couldn't face them.
426
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,079
Dirty trick.
427
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,480
Unfortunate
operational necessity.
428
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,639
So, these are the surveillance files
and Jamie's notes. Take as long you like.
429
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,559
Nice piles, neat
piles. Anything else?
430
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,839
Yeah, you couldn't point us in the direction
of the nearest tea machine could you?
431
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,280
Afraid not. Classified.
432
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,959
Thank you. Did yasser
have a favourite toy?
433
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,879
Yes, a little red car.
434
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,759
His grandad gave
it to him. He loved it.
435
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,519
Who else know about it? No-one.
436
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,039
Do you still have it?
437
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,159
No.
438
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,319
No, he must have sneaked it into
his pocket before we left for the march.
439
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,279
It was a couple of
weeks before I realised.
440
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,599
I wasn't able to go
into his room at first.
441
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,120
I didn't want anyone
to disturb it, in case...
442
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,919
I just wanted everything to be as he'd left
it when he came home. Of course you did.
443
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,639
When I did finally go in,
444
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,639
I realised that it wasn't there.
445
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,479
Did anyone else
know it was missing?
446
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,600
No. Just me and Fred.
447
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,879
Aren't Laurel and
Hardy back yet? No.
448
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,919
Tell them to stop wasting their
time. I'm bringing Davies in. Sandra!
449
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,559
No-one else knew about the car.
450
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,519
He didn't do it. I pulled his
education department record.
451
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,039
On the day of the march he was
in a school disciplinary meeting
452
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,159
accused of inappropriate
behaviour towards a pupil.
453
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,839
A boy of 15.
454
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,439
And he talked his way out of it?
455
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,279
He claimed the boy made the accusation
because he'd put him in detention.
456
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,079
The headmaster gave him the benefit of the doubt,
but I don't think he was too comfortable about it,
457
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,839
cos Davies was
persuaded to move on.
458
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,719
To another school? Great(!)
459
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,359
That's why Anne and
Fred didn't see him again.
460
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,599
No, our first instincts were
right. He had nothing to do with it.
461
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,279
But why make a false confession?
462
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,079
And how the hell did he
know about this little red car?
463
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,439
Well, he knew about it today, but
his memory wasn't so sharp yesterday.
464
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,039
Yes, so where's he
getting his information from?
465
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Come on.
466
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,119
You should have arrested me.
467
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,999
No, I shouldn't. We
know you didn't do it.
468
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,959
We know you were at a school
meeting on the day of the demo.
469
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,319
However, I am thinking of
charging you with wasting police time.
470
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,959
Anything to say?
471
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,879
Look, if you just
wanted to be relocated...
472
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,999
What would be the bloody
point of that? He'd just find me.
473
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,119
Who would? Anthony Vernon.
474
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,039
And who's he?
475
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,359
I don't know! Just some nutter.
476
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,079
I don't know how he knows
who I am, but he does.
477
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,079
And wherever they
put me, he's there.
478
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,479
He talks to the neighbours,
tells them who... what I am.
479
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,119
So, you thought you'd confess to yasser's
murder and get put out of harm's way?
480
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,119
No, that was his idea.
481
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:54,999
Anthony Vernon
told you to confess?
482
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,479
I confronted him,
483
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,799
I asked him why he
was doing this to me.
484
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,319
He said he knew
that I'd taken yasser.
485
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,959
I told him it was nothing to do
with me, he was having none of it,
486
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,800
threatened to make the rest of my
life a misery if I didn't hand myself in.
487
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,640
After six months of him I just
wanted to be somewhere safe.
488
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,320
I thought you'd jump at the
chance to put away a pervert.
489
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,519
He went mad when I told him
you weren't interested in me.
490
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,239
That's when he told me to come
back and tell you about the toy car.
491
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,959
He fed you that information?
492
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,800
Yeah. And when
that didn't work...
493
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,359
I assume this young lady is
here to take your statement.
494
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Yes I am, sir.
We'll be in touch.
495
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,479
Cor, blimey, I thought
being a spy would be exciting.
496
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,439
Can you imagine, five years of going to
boring meetings pretending to be interested?
497
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,479
Making a note of
everyone who turns up.
498
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,359
He even goes about who
brought the biscuits in this one.
499
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:09,519
Yeah, I don't remember that bit about
custard creams in goldfinger, do you?
500
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,119
I mean, most of
this is just gossip.
501
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,079
There's quite a bit about
Fred and Anne's marriage.
502
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,759
Well, she was knocking off
the lodgers, weren't she? What?
503
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,599
Yeah, here, in this one, there.
504
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,359
Mind you, it is 1981.
So it's hardly relevant.
505
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,959
It's got to be more interesting than
another discussion about zionism.
506
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,759
Oh, I see!
507
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:40,239
So while poor old Fred was freezing his baltics off
in Moscow, she found another way of keeping warm.
508
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,759
Gives a whole new meaning to bed
and breakfast. Doesn't it, though? What?
509
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:51,319
Well, I was just thinking, it wasn't just Davies who
had the chance to get to know yasser, gain his trust.
510
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,319
What, the lodgers, you mean? Well, it's
the most interesting thing in these files,
511
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,239
unless you consider the very nice
garibaldis they had on the 13th of November.
512
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,799
I don't know.
513
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,679
I found a familiar
name here. Who's?
514
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,999
No, I don't think I should
show you. Why ever not?
515
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,239
According to what I've just read, you're a potential
security risk. What, there's stuff about me there?
516
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,800
Brian, how well do
you know Esther?
517
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,919
I'm married to her, Gerry.
518
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,680
It's called deep cover.
519
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,599
Where? It's just more stuff
about these meetings, innit?
520
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,919
Gerry laughs that's not amusing.
521
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,839
Oh, I don't know.
522
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:38,159
I wonder how Esther would feel about you being
so quick to believe she's a double agent.
523
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,279
Right, come on. Let's go and
see this lusty landlady, eh?
524
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:48,279
Mr Vernon, I'm sure you're aware that perverting the
course of justice is a serious offence. Of course.
525
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,559
Then perhaps you'd care to
explain why you forced John Davies
526
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,439
into confessing to a crime
he didn't commit. I didn't.
527
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,639
We have a statement of
that effect from mr Davies.
528
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,119
Oh, right. That's Davies
the convicted paedophile?
529
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,639
His previous convictions
have no bearing on this case.
530
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,159
Yeah, and I'm a sure a
jury of my peers will agree.
531
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,279
Everyone knows you can
always trust a kiddie Fiddler.
532
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,799
What about doctors? How do
you think they go down with a jury?
533
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,439
Because the facial injuries that Davies
is recovering from tell their own story.
534
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,559
I don't know what
you're talking about.
535
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,759
You see, what I don't understand
is why this particular case?
536
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,479
Why did you want him to confess to
the killing of yasser gorton-blackledge?
537
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,239
As I've told you, I didn't.
I've never even heard of...
538
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,599
Do you have any links
to the family, mr Vernon?
539
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,159
Cos you passed on some details that only somebody
close to them would know. Care to explain why?
540
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,559
No. Sure about
that? Yeah, positive.
541
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Chief superintendent?
542
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,199
Davies has dropped
the assault charge. Why?
543
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,879
It was an accident,
he fell over his cat.
544
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,400
Shit.
545
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,400
You're free to go.
546
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,919
Am I supposed to be surprised?
547
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,559
Of course mi5 were watching us.
548
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,159
It must have been a very dull
assignment for Jamie. All we did was talk.
549
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,639
They were very
interested in your lodgers.
550
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,599
You know, the foreign students
you had staying with you.
551
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,719
We were on a digs
list at the university.
552
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,239
For the most part they were nice boys
who needed a bed and a friendly face.
553
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,079
You were a little bit
more than friendly.
554
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,319
It was a complicated
time in our marriage.
555
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,599
Fred was overseas a lot. I got lonely.
Yeah, I think we can understand that.
556
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,479
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure
what this has to do with my son.
557
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,039
We didn't take in students after yasser
was born. We didn't have the room.
558
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,919
Did you keep in touch with
any of them? The odd postcard.
559
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,959
One or two stayed in the UK after they'd
finished their courses. They'd pop in.
560
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,319
Thinking back, would you say that any of
them may have posed a danger to your son?
561
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,360
No. Why would you?
562
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,119
Because they were foreign?
563
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,159
Dear god! Some things never change.
No, because they had access to your home.
564
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,839
They were almost part of the family.
You're barking up the wrong tree.
565
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,799
There's absolutely no need for
you to start disrupting their lives.
566
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,519
It's just a line of enquiry.
567
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,239
Well, it's offensive.
568
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,799
And I'd like you to leave.
569
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,599
Typical bloody lefty
to play the race card.
570
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,799
I don't care if her lodgers are foreigners.
I don't care if they're extraterrestrials.
571
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,839
And I don't think that's what it
was all about. She was covering?
572
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,639
Well, she seemed very uncomfortable
about us contacting any of them.
573
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,639
Why? Because of the affairs? No! Once she and
Fred got divorced that's water under the bridge.
574
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,199
Yeah, but at the time,
maybe it all boiled over?
575
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,999
So you think things
got violent? I don't know.
576
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,559
Fred does have strong
opinions about domestic violence.
577
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,559
I just think it's another thing
to add to their list of distractions
578
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,799
politics, a broken marriage...
It's like Jack said from the off.
579
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,479
I mean, this story gives a very
convenient alibi for the both of them.
580
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,279
Go back to Gillian withall, she seems to
have known them the longest and the best.
581
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,999
Would anyone be surprised to hear that
Anthony Vernon has got a history of violence?
582
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,479
Not really. Go on. His ex-wife
has a restraining order against him.
583
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,079
He's not allowed within 20
feet of her, or the children.
584
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,359
The kids as well?
That's unusual.
585
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,199
Do you think she'll speak to us?
We can but try. But why should we?
586
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,239
Well, I've got nowhere
with the man himself.
587
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,520
I want to know why he wanted Davies
to confess to this case specifically.
588
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,319
Karen Vernon? Detective superintendent
Pullman, this is Jack halford.
589
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,200
Come in. Thank you.
590
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,479
Thank you.
591
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,159
It's not the first time I've spoken
to the police about Tony. I'm sorry.
592
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,759
It's ok. He can't touch me now.
593
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,359
Not physically, or
in any other way.
594
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,199
I'm glad to hear it. It's
when he threatened the boys.
595
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,759
It was like he switched
something off in me.
596
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,799
He said if I ever left him, he'd
kill me and make the kids watch
597
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,119
it took me three months to save up enough
money and then find a place to run to.
598
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,039
We haven't seen him since.
599
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,919
He's tried. He dragged me through
the law courts, but it's his temper.
600
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,359
Punched his solicitor the
last time. Not a smart move.
601
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,239
The thing is, he's not stupid.
602
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:11,399
He used to be a journalist. But he kept losing it with
the editors, so he never made it to the nationals.
603
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,679
So he worked for a
local paper. Which one?
604
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,360
Oh, different ones. In 1985?
605
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,719
Islington gazette I think.
606
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,999
He only lasted about
a year on that one.
607
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,280
Did he ever work on a story about
a little boy who was abducted?
608
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,359
Yasser gorton-blackledge? Yeah.
609
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,559
Is that what this is about?
610
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,279
He was obsessed with that story.
611
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,279
He was the first on the scene. He had a contact
at the police station that tipped him off.
612
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,719
He door-stepped the parents
and sold the story to the nationals.
613
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,039
He thought it was his
big chance. But it wasn't?
614
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,119
No, they just paid him for the first
report and then sent in their own hacks.
615
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,479
He tried to follow
up the story, though.
616
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,479
He did an interview
with the dad.
617
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,119
Er, Fred?
618
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Yeah, when was this?
619
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,399
'95, it's the year we left. Ten years
later. It was a sort of anniversary piece.
620
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,199
He couldn't sell it, though.
No-one was interested.
621
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,919
He must have been
bitter about that. Yeah.
622
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,760
I had two black eyes and
a broken rib to prove it.
623
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,840
Oh, what have you got?
624
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,480
Look at me there! Oh, this
brings back some memories.
625
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,199
Oh, there's Jane longthorn.
626
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,119
I wonder what happened to her.
627
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,919
Who knows?
628
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,279
Might be married,
couple of children.
629
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,159
Probably. Or she could be under
deep cover in a former Soviet state.
630
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,319
Depends what her next mission
was and if she chose to accept it.
631
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,599
What on earth are
you talking about?
632
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,559
Infiltration!
633
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,799
You do realise that any of your so-called sisters
could have been working for the security services?
634
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,559
Reporting your every move
back to the powers that be?
635
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,039
Don't be so ridiculous. They
wouldn't have been interested in me.
636
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:15,159
That might be, but you remember, you dragged me along
to a couple of those meetings, and some marches.
637
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,839
Me! A serving officer
of the law. Yeah.
638
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,639
Well, they probably thought you
were trying to turn me into a sleeper.
639
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,879
A manchurian candidate.
640
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,919
Brian, have you taken
your tablets today?
641
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,959
They might still be listening!
642
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,839
You're still an
activist, aren't you?
643
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,919
You went to a political
meeting only last week.
644
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,479
Yes, about the closing
of the post office.
645
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,119
Even so. I do remember!
646
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,359
There was some talk of bringing down the government
and stringing up a few royals from the lampposts!
647
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,400
This isn't a joke.
648
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,039
No, I know. That's
what worries me.
649
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,959
I'm going to bed.
650
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799
Don't be long.
651
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Monotone: Yes, and I'm
going to bed now myself and all.
652
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:09,239
It's not just the potential invasion of my civil
liberties, or my rights as a private citizen.
653
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:14,439
I can't stop thinking about how being an
enemy of the state might have held me back.
654
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,279
What lists does my name appear on, and what
opportunities have I missed as a result?
655
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,359
I'm telling you, I could have
been held back all this time.
656
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Held back from what? Promotion!
657
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,559
I might have been commissioner
by now for all we know.
658
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,559
I don't think it was the secret
service that held you back.
659
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,399
No, that was the misandry of the
global gynarchy oppressing the male
660
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,639
and allowing him to deny his
natural position of authority.
661
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,519
What the hell are you reading?
662
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,359
One of Fred blackledge's books.
663
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,639
I mean it's well over the top in places, but
there's a lot he says rings a bell with me.
664
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,719
I mean, I've spent my whole life
being told what to do by women.
665
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:58,759
Yeah, wives, daughters, detective superintendent
Sandra Pullman. Hold on, I'm reading that.
666
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,879
Yeah, I know.
That's the problem.
667
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,879
Gerry, with me.
668
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,600
I rest my case.
669
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,519
Yes, I was aware of my wife's
behaviour while I was away.
670
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,599
I found out when I returned home
a day early from a trip to Havana.
671
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,239
She was in bed with her
latest. It was quite the cliche.
672
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,319
Still upsetting. At the time,
yes, but now I understand.
673
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,519
Understand what? The myth
of the biological imperative.
674
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,919
Are you familiar?
Refresh my memory.
675
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,639
We are told over and over that men are the
promiscuous gender, that we are driven by sex.
676
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,679
The fact is that both
genders are driven by sex.
677
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,319
The difference is that women
cut off that drive when they
678
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,239
have secured what it was
they were looking for all along.
679
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:50,079
Which is? A child. The truth is that
women do not have sex for pleasure.
680
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,039
The truth? Now I understand
if you find that distressing
681
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,639
but that's only because you are
conditioned to believe that you enjoy sex.
682
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,719
Conditioned by who?
Capitalist forces. The market.
683
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:03,119
The pharmaceutical companies
that make you reliant on the pill.
684
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,119
The cosmetic companies that
say you have to be desirable.
685
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,039
The feminazi magazines who peddle
the lies of dr grafenburg and his ilk.
686
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,999
Doctor?
687
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,639
Grafenburg. The inventor of the
g-spot? And I do mean inventor.
688
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,879
Ok, let me see if
I've got this right.
689
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,839
When women don't
enjoy themselves in bed,
690
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,399
it's not the fault of the
man. It's social conditioning?
691
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,599
Exactly! Well done. So when
your wife looked elsewhere
692
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,319
because you weren't satisfying
her, that wasn't your fault?
693
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,839
Maybe you haven't completely
understood. Maybe not.
694
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,479
All I know is that once my wife had her child,
she lost all interest in anything sexual.
695
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,879
She had no desire... for you?
696
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,239
For sexual pleasure.
697
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,399
It simply wasn't on her
list of priorities any more.
698
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,920
Guv'nor! I see. Guv'nor! What?
699
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,359
Oh, everyone knew
about the affairs.
700
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,479
Anne didn't do
anything to hide them.
701
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,719
It was her way of getting back at Fred
for leaving her alone for weeks on end.
702
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,319
So, they were
just casual affairs?
703
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,119
It was sort of like a holiday romance
only Fred was the one having the holiday.
704
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:16,039
She could get quite intense about her young
men but then as soon as Fred came home...
705
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,439
Were the young men
as intense as she was?
706
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,719
What do you think?
707
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,839
There was one that
went a bit puppy dog.
708
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,239
Harry actually was pretty smitten and I did
think she might do something stupid with him.
709
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:30,799
Like leave Fred?
710
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,039
Maybe. But then Fred came
home and caught them at it.
711
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,719
He went mad and threw Harry out.
712
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,999
Which was obviously exactly
what Anne wanted all along.
713
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,079
Really? She might have been a
feminist but she still wanted a caveman.
714
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,279
She just wanted him to
show her that he cared.
715
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,719
After that it was
all happy families.
716
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,999
Especially when
yasser came along.
717
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,439
She didn't know how lucky
she was to have all that.
718
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,439
Still, she didn't
deserve to lose it.
719
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,079
No, no, of course not.
720
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,399
Mum, can you come
and take some blood?
721
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,359
Sorry, I didn't realise you
had visitors. Oh, that's ok.
722
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,039
We're just about to leave.
723
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,919
You must be Gillian's son?
That's right. Dr William withall.
724
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,040
But most people
just call me will.
725
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,679
Quite a medical
family, aren't you?
726
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,479
Is your brother
a doctor as well?
727
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,119
I don't have a brother.
728
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,439
My mistake, sorry. Shall we...
729
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Why not.
730
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,359
Far be it from me to
not be politically correct...
731
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,599
I think I know what you're
going to say, but go on.
732
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,399
When you adopt from Africa don't
they usually give you a black baby?
733
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,719
So, what is it about Fred blackledge
that you find so damn fascinating?
734
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,559
You wouldn't understand.
Why, because I'm a woman?
735
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,679
Yeah. Yeah that is exactly
it. You've not been oppressed.
736
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,159
You don't know what
it's like to live in a world
737
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,719
of emasculation created by
feminism! No, I suppose not. Fred has.
738
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:01,559
He understands, you see, how the
system is weighted against us now.
739
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,439
How the pendulum
has swung too far.
740
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,879
He understands because
he's experienced it.
741
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,039
He has experienced
the loss of a child...
742
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,159
Yes, but the way you lost
your children is very different.
743
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,079
I told you. You
don't understand.
744
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,640
Apparently not. So, wasn't
Davies part of the brotherhood?
745
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,159
You tried to pin a murder on him.
Because he did it. No, mr Vernon.
746
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,519
Yeah, Fred told me about his suspicions
in '95. The anniversary interview?
747
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,479
The interview that
changed my life.
748
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,919
You see, he was just developing
his theories, his philosophy back then.
749
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,719
But what little he told me
750
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,679
set me free from my
guilt, from my torment.
751
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,119
And ever since I've been... well,
finding a way to repay the favour.
752
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,999
Then I heard that
Davies was out.
753
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,519
How did you hear? I was a
journalist I have my contacts.
754
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,759
You know that he only
served half of his sentence?
755
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,919
He was a model prisoner.
He's a sick bastard.
756
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,439
Maybe, but he's not a murderer.
757
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,959
Looks like you'll have to find
some other sacrifice for the master.
758
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,200
This is...
759
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,359
Oh, for god's sake!
760
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,439
Have you read any of this crap?
761
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,479
Well, you know me,
guv'nor, not a big reader.
762
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,719
It's one thing to hear
him spouting the rubbish,
763
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,199
but to see it in
black and white.
764
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,159
Listen to this. "In divorces,
the father should get automatic
765
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:21,119
"custody of their sons so that they are not exposed
to the gender war propaganda of their mothers."
766
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,999
No wonder he was able
to recruit Anthony Vernon.
767
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,959
I still don't think he put Vernon
up to framing John Davies though.
768
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,919
No, neither do I.
769
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,679
Vernon's just an extremist
who wanted to show devotion
770
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,159
to his hero and I also don't think he
had anything to do with yasser's death.
771
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,639
You're right about that. Because
we don't think that yasser is dead.
772
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,959
Ok, there is no record
of an official adoption.
773
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,639
That doesn't mean
anything, Jack.
774
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,559
But there is a record
of another child.
775
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,119
Born to Gillian in
December 1980.
776
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,639
Died February 1981.
777
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,679
Three months? Gawd, poor cow.
778
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,079
She did say she'd been going through a bad
time before hooking up with Anne and Fred.
779
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,559
A marriage break-up - sounds
like we've found the cause.
780
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,119
And the name of the
child that died was William.
781
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,079
So, a couple of days after yasser
goes missing, Gillian goes to Africa
782
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,839
and comes back two
years later with a white son.
783
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,039
She kept saying that Anne didn't
realise how lucky she was to have yasser.
784
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,079
Maybe she decided to prove
her point and take him away.
785
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,639
We'll pursue this line of enquiry
but I want to handle it with kid gloves.
786
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,199
I don't want to confront a bereaved
mother until we've done a bit of digging.
787
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,159
We should talk to he ex-husband.
See if they kept in touch.
788
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Yeah, bring him in
tomorrow morning.
789
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,319
Brian! What are you doing now?
790
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,679
I'm looking for
listening devices. What?
791
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,559
Do you remember when we
had that squariel fitted years ago?
792
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,439
I think that's when they
might have done it! What?!
793
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,959
Oh, don't look at
me like that, Esther!
794
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,839
I wouldn't need to do this if it wasn't
for you and your radical politics.
795
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,159
Hang on. You went to
those meetings as well!
796
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,839
I was... I was trying
to impress you.
797
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,359
I had no interest in politics!
798
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,639
Oh, for god's
sake, give me that.
799
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,280
If I'd have known it was
going to ruin me career...
800
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,839
I beg your pardon?
801
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,639
Nothing. Are you trying to say
that I've been holding you back?
802
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,960
Not on purpose.
803
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,439
Would you like to talk about
what ruined your career?
804
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,039
Would you like to
talk about the drinking?
805
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,360
The obsessive behaviour?
806
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,880
No. I didn't think you would.
807
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,959
Mr withall, I'm detective
superintendent Pullman.
808
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Thank you for
coming in, take a seat.
809
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,479
Can I get you a tea or coffee?
810
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,559
No, thank you. You said
this was about Gillian.
811
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,079
When was the last time
you saw your ex-wife?
812
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,719
Why? Has something happened
to her? Is she ok? She's fine.
813
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:32,359
Because I haven't seen her
since the divorce became final.
814
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Would you mind if we asked
you about your divorce?
815
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,159
Erm, well, it wasn't my idea.
816
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,999
It was after...
817
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,559
We lost our son. Cot death.
Yes, we know and we're very sorry.
818
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,479
One of them things.
819
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,039
That's what they say.
820
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,559
But it felt like the end of the
world and it never really goes away.
821
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,879
There's always a hole.
822
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,160
And for us that hole
became divorce.
823
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,119
You say that you've not seen
Gillian, but you have heard from her?
824
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,479
Do you still have any mutual friends
no, she cut everyone off, pretty much.
825
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,759
What about her family? Do
you keep in touch with them?
826
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,559
She didn't have much family.
827
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Her mum and dad had gone.
828
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:15,199
Erm, she had a brother but he lived
in Canada and they weren't close.
829
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,159
That's why we wanted to start
a family. We wanted a houseful.
830
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,639
So, no contact?
831
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,439
I tried to get in touch in 2001.
832
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,639
It would have been will's 21st.
833
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,439
I wondered if she wanted to go to
the graveyard, leave some flowers.
834
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,999
I got in touch with her
through the nurses' union.
835
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,239
She wouldn't talk to me.
836
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:34,799
She wanted a new start.
837
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,320
Did she say that? Yeah. I just
hope she got what she wanted.
838
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,080
Mr withall, I'm assuming that you don't
know that Gillian has adopted a son?
839
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,519
No, I didn't.
840
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,040
She never...
841
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,839
A boy? What did
she call him? William.
842
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,080
Really? William?
843
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,840
I would never have...
844
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,279
Is that everything?
Yes, I think that's it.
845
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,840
Thank you very much
and, um... I'm sorry.
846
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,559
Well, that wasn't fun.
Illuminating though.
847
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,159
Gillian withall was isolated
enough to bring the child home
848
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,999
and not to have anybody
ask any awkward questions.
849
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,639
Well, she's going to
answer some questions now.
850
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,200
Let's get it over with.
851
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,520
I suppose we just stay
here and twiddle our thumbs?
852
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,280
Fancy going rogue?
853
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,599
Hello. Back again? What
can I do for you this time?
854
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,680
This is superintendent Pullman,
we'd like to talk to you. And your son.
855
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,680
Yes, erm, this way.
856
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,999
I think I always knew there
was something not quite right.
857
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,719
She wouldn't let me see my dad.
858
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,359
Why not?
859
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,360
Mum said he was violent
and that we didn't need him.
860
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,039
And every time I needed
anything official, any paperwork...
861
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,639
It was always lost or there
was some complication.
862
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,039
Would be?
863
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,760
So... who am I?
864
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:46,559
I don't want to give a definitive answer to that until
we've done a DNA test and made some more enquiries.
865
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,279
Yeah, I get that. But before we get
into the soap opera part of all this...
866
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Just tell me who I might be?
867
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,119
Nicos megas. That's
your real name, ok?
868
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,639
It's not yasser.
869
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,439
His mother gave him
to me when she died.
870
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,679
I've got all the paperwork at
home to prove it. He's mine.
871
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,239
You're mine, will. It's ok.
872
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:08,919
Calm down. I'm
30-years-old, mum.
873
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,519
They can't take me away.
874
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,159
You're not who
they're saying you are.
875
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,079
They haven't said anything,
mum. I wouldn't just...
876
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,199
I can't believe you think
I'd do that to another family!
877
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,600
I know what it feels
like to lose a child.
878
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,720
She sobs
879
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,839
do you think we've got the right clearance
for using the loos this time? Stop moaning.
880
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,999
I just think we're wasting
our time here, Gerry.
881
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,719
This lodger thing's
going nowhere.
882
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,999
They weren't even taking in
students when yasser went missing.
883
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,679
Yeah, but they were there
when he was conceived.
884
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,399
Oh, here we are! What?
885
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,559
Harry, or abu Hamas
as his mum called him.
886
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,559
Half of it's blacked
out. Yeah. Redacted.
887
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,679
Eh? That means this
material's still highly classified.
888
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,319
I wonder if that Richard
bloke's still about.
889
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,400
We need to be fully
briefed. Go and ask him.
890
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,680
He chuckles
891
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,039
pack it all up. We're putting
this one down to experience.
892
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,639
Oh, no, no, you can't!
893
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,279
Gillian withall was a dead end. I
can't progress with this any further.
894
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,559
Yeah, but we can.
895
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,399
We think that yasser
was taken by his dad.
896
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,759
Fred? Abu Hamas, from gaza.
897
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,439
He was a leading
light in the PLO.
898
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,879
Is he now? Was. He's dead, which is why
the spooks could tell us about him. Spooks?
899
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,959
He died in a border skirmish
in 1989, during the first intifada.
900
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,839
Why do we think
he's yasser's dad?
901
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,359
Timing.
902
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,799
Abu Hamas and Anne gorton were at
it nine months before yasser was born.
903
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,839
Whereas Fred and
Anne definitely weren't.
904
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,079
Initially because Fred was away, and
then according to surveillance reports,
905
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,119
because they were
occupying separate bedrooms.
906
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,640
Mi5 gave us this, look.
907
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,919
Bloody hell.
908
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,199
Wait for it.
909
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,359
Who'd you think was guest speaker at
the rally before the free Palestine march?
910
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,559
Abu... thing? Hamas, yeah.
911
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,760
And who do you think flew him in
and sponsored his visitor's visa?
912
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,599
I'm teaching at the moment, so I don't have
time for this. What's the lecture about?
913
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,239
Second-wave feminism and
the threat of the fallow holocaust.
914
00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:28,079
Death to the penis.
Not fathers' rights, then.
915
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,159
I speak on that frequently, just not today.
I want to check I've got something right.
916
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,159
You think that boys should
always live with their fathers,
917
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,279
irrespective of any issues around
child welfare, domestic violence...
918
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,519
Another tool in the
belt of the feminazis.
919
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,679
Most accusations are false. You'd know
better than me, a serving police officer.
920
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,519
To answer your question, yes, boys
should be brought up by their fathers,
921
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,079
to keep them away from the
feminist indoctrination of their mothers.
922
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,120
That's why you handed yasser over to
abu Hamas, is it? For political reasons?
923
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,639
I knew the moment the
doctor gave Anne her due date.
924
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,919
Even I can count to nine.
925
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,599
So you just waited until the right
moment and handed him over?
926
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,799
I traced abu Hamas
and told him the truth.
927
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,319
I sent him photos until it
was time to put things right.
928
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,559
It was the right thing to do.
929
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,839
Bringing up another
man's child is wrong.
930
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,119
I just didn't love him.
931
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,079
I felt guilty about that at
the time, but not any more.
932
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,519
It was the purest
political act of my life.
933
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,279
Bollocks. I'm sorry?
934
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,599
So you should be.
935
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,439
What you did wasn't
the act of a man.
936
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,119
A real man wouldn't have cared. He'd have just
been proud to have the privilege of being a father.
937
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,999
Oh, I see. You work
under a woman long enough
938
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,039
and you start to think like
them. Do you know what you are?
939
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,919
What you did wasn't politics, it
was having a pop at your wife.
940
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,479
A mangina.
941
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,239
It was about putting her
through 25 years of grief
942
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:55,119
so that you could feel better
about her shagging another bloke.
943
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,239
And if that makes you a
man and me a mangina,
944
00:54:58,240 --> 00:54:59,640
book me in for a Brazilian.
945
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,639
Sorry, boss. No
apology necessary.
946
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,319
And where is he now?
947
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,839
Still in gaza as far as we know.
I'm sorry we don't have more.
948
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,000
He's alive, that's all I need.
949
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,599
A chance.
950
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,639
A chance to find him.
951
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,479
You're going to look
for him? Of course.
952
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,359
Well, be careful, gaza's not
the safest place in the world.
953
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,359
You don't have children, do you?
954
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,999
No. Sorry, it wasn't supposed
to be an accusation, it's just...
955
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,759
You couldn't
possibly understand.
956
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,319
Maybe that's how Fred
could do what he did.
957
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,599
Because he couldn't understand what he
was doing to me. Oh, I think he understood.
958
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,840
And I think he's spent the last 20 years
justifying it to himself and everyone else. Maybe.
959
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,240
Thank you.
960
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,879
Urgh, not much of a result.
961
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,239
Well, harassment and perverting the course
of justice charges against Vernon and Fred.
962
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:11,599
Yeah, big deal. Are you sure we
can't do blackledge on something else?
963
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,359
He gave a child to his to his father. It was
abu Hamas who took him out of the country.
964
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,559
And it caused a bit of damage
on the way, William withall.
965
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,919
Aye, and me. Now I know
I've been living in a police state.
966
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,719
Oh, for god's sake! I've read your
file when we were setting up this team.
967
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:28,239
I knew there was a file on
me! Of course there was!
968
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:32,559
I was right, wasn't I? Esther's
radicalism's ruined my career!
969
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,839
I should never have
gone to those meetings.
970
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,839
Signing my name
on bloody petitions!
971
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,599
It said you were too
insignificant for surveillance,
972
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,919
and that Esther was
essentially harmless.
973
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,720
Happy now?
974
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Right. Thanks.
975
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,799
Harmless? Are you sure they
were watching the right woman?
976
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,200
Oh, come on!
977
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,839
Goodnight, Sandra. Goodnight.
978
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,999
See you there.
979
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,079
I've read your report.
980
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,559
Sorry it wasn't the
result you wanted, sir.
981
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,759
What do you mean?
982
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,439
Well, Davies is still at large. I hope you don't
think it was a complete waste of resources.
983
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,559
Of course not. Is
that what you thought?
984
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,959
That's not why I counselled
you against this case. Sir?
985
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,999
Ucos does extraordinary work. It
breaks cases that are unbreakable.
986
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,599
But child abductions? They eat
resources and burn out officers.
987
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,479
But you don't feel
you can let it go.
988
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,479
It's a missing child, after all.
989
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,599
So you work your overtime
and ignore the people at home.
990
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,839
And when you do finally get a
result, it's not usually a good one.
991
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,239
Maybe I wanted to protect four of
my most valuable assets from that?
992
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,679
Goodnight.
993
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,320
Goodnight, sir.
994
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,799
Esther!
995
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,600
I've got something for you.
996
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,679
I thought I'd help you save that post
office, or anything else for that matter.
997
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,719
If it needs saving, banning or its
consciousness raising, I'm your man.
998
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,600
Just like the old days.
What do you think?
999
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,680
Oh, Betty!
1000
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,519
♪ It's all right it's ok
1001
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,519
♪ doesn't really matter
if you're old and grey
1002
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,919
♪ it's all right I say it's ok
1003
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,999
♪ listen to what I say
1004
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,199
♪ it's all right, doing fine
1005
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,239
♪ doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine
1006
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,119
♪ it's all right I say it's ok
1007
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,760
♪ we're gettin' to
the end of the day. ♪
89201
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