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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,359 'Please leave a message after the tone.' 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,959 'Jack? It's Brian. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,759 'Just haven't heard from you for a while. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,599 'Well, since... 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,559 'Look, give me a call when you get a chance.' 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,599 'hi, Jack. It's Sandra. Call me.' 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,999 'all right, mate? It's Gerry. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,879 'I wondered if you fancy a pint some time this week? 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,079 'Give us a shout if you do.' 10 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:27,279 'ok, Jack. I know you're upset, I get that. 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,119 'But would it kill you to let us know you're all right? 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,640 'Jack, where are you?' 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,239 ♪ it's all right, it's ok 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,119 ♪ doesn't really matter if you're old and grey 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,599 ♪ it's all right, it's ok listen to what I say 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,279 ♪ it's all right, doing fine doesn't really matter 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,959 ♪ if the sun don't shine 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,559 ♪ it's all right, I say, it's ok 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,760 ♪ we're getting to the end of the day. ♪ 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,599 It's just one of his long, dark teatimes of the soul. He'll be back. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,639 Brian, I don't think... he'll walk through that door any minute. 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,679 I'll see you there in 10 minutes, sir. Ok, fine. 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,799 Would've been bloody impressive, though, wouldn't it? 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Morning. I think you'll like this case, should get the juices flowing. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,039 On 30th September, 1998, 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,319 the studios of roxy radio in barnet burned to the ground. 27 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:31,319 The local radio station was part of sir Max Wyatt's media empire. 28 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:35,279 As you'll know, he was the subject of some scrutiny in the late '90s. 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,639 He was ripping off his employees' pensions. 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,759 When he got whisper of the investigation 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,439 he topped himself in his roller. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,879 Actually, it was a Bentley. 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,319 S3 continental, fantastic machines... 34 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,799 Guys, I don't think the dac had quite finished. 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,519 Sorry. 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,119 The fire was originally thought to have been an insurance job ordered by Wyatt. 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,799 The murder squad were involved, because there was a death in the fire, but they drew a blank. 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,759 It seems the fire cannot be linked to either the pension fund or any other of Wyatt's dealings, 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,359 so it's a fresh case. 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Lots of challenges. 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,119 What do you think? 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,959 Yeah, it sounds interesting. 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,519 As I said, the fire did result in a death, that of Johnny Deacon. 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,599 He was the dj on air at the time. 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,399 Johnny "decks" Deacon. I remember him from radio 1. 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,639 He was a cheeky chappie type, had quite a following at the time, didn't he? 47 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:32,079 Apparently, he still does. 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,600 Mr kirkham, would you like to come in? 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,799 This is Jeremy kirkham, the president of the Johnny Deacon fan club. 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,719 Life president, actually. 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,399 One of the club's recent activities was to launch a fairly intensive 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,599 campaign demanding mr Deacon's killer be brought to justice. 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,559 I'm not quite sure how mr kirkham managed 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,159 to get hold of the home telephone number of the commissioner... 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,439 But now that he's brought this to our attention, we'd like to clear things up, quickly. 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,919 In the meantime, mr kirkham would like to take this opportunity 57 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,879 to tell you quite what Johnny Deacon meant to him. 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,439 And the nation. 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,039 Yes, yes, quite. 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Anyway, off you go. 61 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:13,959 Oh, I need to set up first. Set what up? 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,479 My speaker system, my projector... 63 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,119 Johnny was a consummate broadcaster, he deserves to be heard in digital quality stereo. 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,320 - Is over here all right? - No, that's Jack's desk. 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Come with me. 66 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:32,200 - Just get this... - Turn right. 67 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,079 Could you and I have a word? 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Yes, certainly. 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,039 Personnel files? They're potential replacements for Jack. 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,919 Ucos has budget for three positions besides your own. Yeah, and they're all filled. 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,199 Sandra... Jack's on leave of absence. 72 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,159 We all know that's a lie, and the longer you perpetuate it, the worse team morale will be. 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,639 Giving away Jack's job is hardly going to help, is it? I disagree. 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,559 I think it'll signify that you've moved on. 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,959 Take a few days to look through the candidates. 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,039 Maybe by then Jack will have got in contact. 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:15,439 But if we haven't heard anything within a week, I expect to be sitting in on some interviews. 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,159 Sir. 79 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,640 The geek squad is ready for us. 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,040 Come in and shut the door. 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,999 Strickland wants me to find a replacement for Jack. 82 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,440 Oh. 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,079 Still, if he's not coming back... We don't know that! 84 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,839 He just needs time. 85 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:40,440 He's going to need more than time to get over seeing hanson walk. Yeah, I know. 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,359 You've got to see this. 87 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,119 Jeremy kirkham: Johnny Deacon was a born broadcaster. 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,239 A lonely child, his only joy was found in the sounds of the world service. 89 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:57,000 When his parents died in a car crash, Johnny took a slot on hospital radio. It was the birth of a legend. 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,079 In his future would be a golden era at radio 1, where he'd stand with the greats. 91 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,720 Poor old John peel, look. Is that Noel edmonds? 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,519 Look at that, Dave Lee Travis! 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:17,239 His extensive charity work, and in his final days as the UK's hardest hitting 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,599 talk radio star at roxy radio, where he'd court controversy and rattle the cages of the powers that be. 95 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Of course, it was here that he met his untimely end. 96 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,999 That's the bit that we're interested in, really. 97 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,479 Yes, and I actually have a recording of Johnny's final moments. 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,119 You've got a tape of him dying? 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,479 Yes, Johnny was a consummate professional. 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,039 He carried on recording right until the end. That was sort of my finale. 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,840 Can we wind to that, please? Yep. 102 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,199 'Now, it's a year this week since Diana, Princess of wales, died. 103 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:07,159 'What are your thoughts 12 months on from those extraordinary scenes of mourning? Did we all overreact? 104 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,519 'Did the death of a divorced, adulteress warrant the outpouring of grief?' 105 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,799 that was Johnny, uncompromising. 106 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,319 'I want to know what do you think. Graham is waiting for your calls.' 107 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,839 Graham madeley, his producer. They'd been together for years. 108 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:22,159 'First on the line is Helen. 109 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,999 Alarm sounds on tape this is it. 110 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,319 'That's the fire alarm, sorry about that. It does indeed... 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,399 'I think we've, um... have we? 112 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,199 'No, no, the studio is on fire. 113 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,319 'I'm not sure what the... 114 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,319 'Oh, wow, it really is on fire. Graham? 115 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,359 'Mate, what's going on? 116 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,279 'Graham? Shit!' 117 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,959 Johnny coughs 118 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,720 'Graham! Graham, I can't get out! Graham! Anyone?! 119 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,480 'For god's sake, help me!' 120 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,599 and that's where the emergency broadcasting system cuts in, it plays 121 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,519 random music if ever there's a sudden break in transmission. 122 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,519 Unfortunately, that evening the record queued up was smoke gets in your eyes by the platters. 123 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,760 Strangled laugh 124 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,839 have you got a copy of the recording? 125 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,399 Yes, I maintain the full Johnny Deacon library, recordings dating back to his hospital radio days. 126 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,199 I can offer you full access to them... 127 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,319 Thank you very much, I don't think that will be necessary. 128 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Brian, could you help him pack up, please? 129 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,479 The original murder squad looked into forensics and motive and took statements from the two survivors. 130 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,279 Graham madeley, the producer and Sharon revie, the cleaner. 131 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,439 She was quite badly burned. How badly? 132 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,639 She was blinded. 133 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,279 I thought Jeremy might've mentioned that. 134 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,560 There we go. Thank you. 135 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,879 There was no cctv, but they had key codes 136 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,319 on the front door and the studio door. They think that's what killed Johnny. 137 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,839 How? The fire damaged the entire system, he couldn't unlock the door. 138 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,839 The fire investigation concluded that an incendiary device 139 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,879 had been placed in a storage cupboard near the studio. 140 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,399 It was a simple device, easy to build if you had a bit of know-how. 141 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,799 The only specialist bit of kit was the slow fuse. 142 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,839 So what was the motive? Insurance job? 143 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,039 Arson's usually a crime of impotent rage. 144 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,519 So the arsonist was really angry cos he couldn't get it up? 145 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,679 Question is, who was the target of that rage? 146 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,199 Johnny Deacon or roxy radio? 147 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,759 Or the Wyatt corporation? 148 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:37,359 When it turned out that the pension fund had gone, they made 5,000 redundant to try and cut costs. 149 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,559 After Max Wyatt pissed away their pensions, maybe they were entitled to a bit of impotent rage? 150 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:44,479 And we've got 5,000 suspects? 151 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,319 Yeah, I bet the wyatts did have some specific threats, though. 152 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,320 They just weren't exactly on speaking terms with us at the time. 153 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,399 I don't know about this, Gerry. 154 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,040 All I want to know is if he's made any phone calls in the last two weeks, and who to. 155 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,799 Thanks, mate, I owe you one. 156 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,600 I just need any credit or debit card transactions from the last few days. 157 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,799 What? Yes, of course. 158 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,679 I have full authorisation. 159 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:18,319 Who? 160 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,960 Dac strickland, of course. 161 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,039 I've tried calling him, I've tried. 162 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,240 But all I get is the answering machine. Me too. 163 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,519 You don't think he wants to come back, do you? 164 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,399 Even if he does, strickland's not going to lay out the red carpet for him. He walked off the job. 165 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,799 He left us in the lurch, Gerry. Yeah, I know, but he's... 166 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Yeah, it's Jack. 167 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,639 Nice. What? 168 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,919 Cameron Wyatt? Yes. 169 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Detective superintendent Pullman, Gerry standing, ucos. We'd like a word, please. 170 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,359 You getting ready to move? 171 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,879 No, I'm getting ready to be evicted. 172 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,119 The house is the last thing to go next week. 173 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,479 So you're servicing your father's debts? 174 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,080 It's not as if the old bastard hung around long enough to do it himself. 175 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,519 So, how can I help? 176 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,439 The fire at roxy radio. You mean the one thing you can't pin on the old man? 177 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,999 To be honest, whatever money the fire insurance raised would have been a drop in the ocean. 178 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,519 When I was running the place, we barely broke even. 179 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,159 What, you ran the station? I was running it at the time of the fire. 180 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,199 Dad's idea of a training course, in amongst the grass roots before I graduated to the board. 181 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,839 By the time they'd rebuilt the place, dad was dead and... 182 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,439 I was in the hot seat. Before the fire, did the company receive any threats? 183 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,639 Perhaps related to your father's business troubles? 184 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,999 Look, what dad did, 185 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,479 it's not just me left like this. 186 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,159 People who worked for us for years trusted us to put money into the company pension. 187 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,959 First we took that away, then we sacked them. 188 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:06,559 Of course there were threats. But were there any specifically against roxy radio? No. 189 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:09,599 And they were usually pretty specific. 190 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,839 What they'd like to do to dad, what they'd like to do to me, 191 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,079 and my daughters. Sorry. 192 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,679 That's why Gemma, my wife, left. 193 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:24,399 She took Sophie and Ella away to the states so they'd be safe. 194 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,200 And... to get away from this mess. 195 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,319 Were any of these redundancies at roxy radio? 196 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,320 No. That place virtually ran on a skeleton staff as it was, there was no fat to trim. 197 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,879 Although there was a sacking. When? 198 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,639 About three weeks before the fire. 199 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,399 Georgina, I think. She was a broadcast assistant. 200 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,479 And why did you give her the push? 201 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,599 She'd had a formal warning about stealing office supplies and was caught again. Office supplies? 202 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,639 I know. 203 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,840 What's a few paperclips compared to a £20 million pension fund? 204 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,119 ♪ They're walking like an Egyptian all the kids in the marketplace 205 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,120 ♪ say whey oh whey oh 206 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:14,559 ♪ whey oh whey oh 207 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:17,120 ♪ walk like an Egyptian... ♪ 208 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,159 Welcome to roxy radio, where the '80s never ended. I beg your pardon? 209 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,720 All '80s, all day. 210 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,199 We're here to see Graham madeley. 211 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,199 I'm afraid that's not possible. Why not? 212 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,279 Because he's on the air till one. 'That's right, folks. 213 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:45,759 'It's Graham here, with another of those great '80s sounds from Kylie, who's feeling lucky, lucky, lucky." 214 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,280 We'll wait. 215 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,079 Gerry. 216 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:55,279 ♪ In my imagination there is no complication 217 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,679 ♪ I dream about you all the time... ♪ 218 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:04,079 music: Karma chameleon by culture club 219 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,799 ♪ desert loving in your eyes all the way 220 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:15,279 ♪ if I listened to your lies would you say 221 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,919 ♪ I'm a man without conviction 222 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:25,999 ♪ I'm a man who doesn't know 223 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,799 ♪ Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma chameleon... ♪ 224 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,759 you can go through now. 225 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Thank you. 226 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,359 ♪ Loving would be easy if your colours were like my dreams... ♪ 227 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,880 down there, apparently. 228 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,159 And, that's all from me, Graham madeley, 229 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,719 but we'll be back tomorrow, 230 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,160 so until then, keep it real, keep it retro, keep it roxy radio. 231 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,359 Hi, guys. I heard you want a little powwow. 232 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,639 Music: In the air tonight by Phil Collins 233 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:08,359 when I hear this I always think of Johnny. Cos he's in the air. 234 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,279 When I play this, I can feel him looking over my shoulder. 235 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,359 You were close, then? 236 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,759 Like brothers. Went back to the hospital radio days. 237 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,879 25 years. I mean, some marriages don't last that long. 238 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,599 But then, Johnny was always married to the job. 239 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,279 Yeah, I remember him doing the breakfast slot on radio 1. 240 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,239 How he kept so bleedin' cheerful at that time of the morning, I'll never know. Class a drugs. 241 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,919 Joking! Easy to be cheerful when you love what you're doing. 242 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,079 He must have had some kind of personality change when he came here. 243 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,639 We heard a recording. 244 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,959 That was just a performance. Johnny wasn't like that. 245 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,799 Still, he expressed some pretty extreme views. 246 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,639 Did he upset anyone? That was the point of the show. 247 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,439 To get the listeners calling in. 248 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,559 But Johnny would have preferred playing music, believe me. 249 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,559 Are you nearly finished, chicken? 250 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Why? Does Sarah miss her monkey man? Always. 251 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,639 Were you friends with Johnny, too? 252 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,119 We wouldn't have got together if it hadn't been for him. 253 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,519 Sarah was in the audience of one of Johnny's nightclub pas in ilford. 254 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,479 Has he sold you a funday ticket yet? 255 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,439 Well, it's for a good cause. 256 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,919 We're trying to save the station by getting the community behind us. 257 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,159 We'll let the asset strippers know how much the listeners want 258 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,639 to keep us on the air. I mean, who doesn't like '80s music? 259 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,399 Oh, please come! Yeah. We'll bear it in mind, yeah. 260 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,439 One more thing. Georgina? 261 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,479 Who? 262 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,279 The girl who was sacked just before the fire. Do you know why? 263 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,639 Oh, her. Yeah, I had nothing to do with her. 264 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,839 I just heard that she was given the push. 265 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:50,519 Well, maybe your employee records will shed some light. I doubt it. 266 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,640 They got destroyed in the fire. 267 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,639 Call the tax office. I'm sure their records are flame-retardant.. 268 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,480 ♪ Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma chameleon... ♪ 269 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,079 Sharon revie? Brian Lane. I called you this morning. 270 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,839 Of course, I recognise the voice. 271 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,360 Come in. 272 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,279 What's his name? Ben. 273 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,959 You can stroke him if you like. 274 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,040 He's not working now. Hello, Ben. 275 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,639 Sharon, I need to talk to you about the fire. 276 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,279 I don't remember much. 277 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,039 Just tell me what you can. 278 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,519 I was cleaning the offices as usual, 279 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,639 when I heard the fire alarm go off. 280 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,039 I assumed it was just drill. 281 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,079 Well, you do, don't you? 282 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,159 I'd left my handbag in my locker, so I went back for it. Why? 283 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,719 Cos it had my fags in. 284 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,919 I thought if I was going to be hanging about outside... 285 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,079 Can you believe that? 286 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,239 I've got a colleague who's a nicotine addict. 287 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,839 Turns out it really is bad for your health. 288 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,239 By the time I was making my way out, 289 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,559 the place was full of smoke, and I lost my bearings. 290 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,119 I don't remember any more. 291 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:15,719 Did you notice anybody hanging about that night? 292 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,999 No. It was just Johnny and Graham in the studio as usual. 293 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,080 That's why I cleaned in the evening, so I didn't get in anyone's way. 294 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,040 Ohh! Come on. 295 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,759 It's not often I wish I wasn't a bloke. 296 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,799 I'm sorry, but you're going to have to leave. 297 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,759 This is a women-only space. 298 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,919 I wish I could. Police. We need to talk to Georgina achebe. 299 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,720 How can I help? 300 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,919 I wasn't sacked because I took a few pens. 301 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,319 I was sacked because I turned down Johnny Deacon. What for? 302 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,879 What do you think? It'd been going for weeks, 303 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,839 but it was my first job and I thought it came with the territory. 304 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,959 I was the only woman working there apart from the cleaner. 305 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,319 For god's sake, it took a month for me to get a lock put on the ladies' toilet door. 306 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,680 I just took it all in my stride. 307 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,319 Go on. 308 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,799 It was late. Graham was dealing with his silly little wife. 309 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,799 Sarah used to bring his dinner into the studio every night, 310 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,359 just let herself in. 311 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:33,879 Quite the little woman. 312 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,760 Except dinner always ended up in the bin, so Johnny and Graham could send me out for kebabs. 313 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,480 So what happened with Johnny? He started telling his usual jokes. 314 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,519 Told me he was curious, that he'd never slept with a black girl before. 315 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,359 The usual creepy stuff. 316 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:54,800 And then I realised he had me cornered. 317 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,639 And that's when he started groping me. 318 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,799 What did you do? 319 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,799 I slapped him round the face and went straight to Graham. 320 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,599 He was still with Sarah, so he acted all sympathetic. 321 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,199 Sent me home, promised me he'd speak to Wyatt on my behalf. 322 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,479 But the next morning I was told to clear my desk. 323 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,039 Didn't you try to put your side of the story? 324 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,719 Wyatt refused to see me. 325 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,679 I was left with no job, without a reference. 326 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,999 I was 18 years old 327 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,399 and my radio career was over before it had even started. 328 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,279 That's why I came to work here. 329 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,719 Very admirable, but it wasn't the first thing you did, was it? 330 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,799 What? You'd been unfairly dismissed, sexually assaulted and your career had been killed. 331 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,519 I don't understand. Do you have an alibi for the night of the fire? 332 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,239 It was ten years ago. 333 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,199 Do I need one? 334 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,359 'I'd have felt like getting my own back.' 335 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,639 yeah, but how far would you go? 336 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,639 I don't know. How about keying his car? 337 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Yes, I'd get a certain sense of satisfaction from that. 338 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Slashing his tyres? Maybe. 339 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,239 What about smashing both windscreens and all four windows? 340 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,359 I'm pissed off, not psychotic. Then we're looking for a psychopath. 341 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:09,479 That's what happened to Johnny's car a week before the fire. 342 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,519 Why wasn't this in the original file? 343 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,639 Because the barnet plods dealt with it as a vandalism case. 344 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,359 It never crossed with the original investigation. 345 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:21,479 I wonder if Georgina has trouble finding an alibi for that as well? 346 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,959 She was questioned but cleared. 347 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,799 But it wasn't the first time Johnny had incited violence. 348 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:33,159 In 1987, he was doing a gig when some bloke smacked him one for copping off with his daughter. 349 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,559 Frank Bryant was charged with assault, 350 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,879 but Johnny dropped the charges. Why? Doesn't say. 351 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,839 You don't honestly think that this Bryant bloke turned up ten years later and set him on fire? 352 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,079 I doubt it, but we need to build a better picture of the victim. 353 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,479 The original investigation was too distracted by the wyatts. 354 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,479 What we do need is to find out whoever else he crossed. 355 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,399 Well, luckily for us, Johnny always broadcast his arguments. 356 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,760 I think Johnny's one-man fan club might be of use after all. 357 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,999 Oh, look. 358 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Me mum and dad used to have one of these. 359 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,239 Oh, the hours I've spent in front of it listening to round the horne, 360 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,319 the clitheroe kid, the goons. Mind, that were later on. 361 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,600 "You rotten swine. You've deaded me!" 362 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,680 "Ying tong iddle eye po?" 363 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,520 I've got everything ready for you in the back. Ah, great. 364 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,479 Where did you get all these? 365 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,439 I started recording them from the radio in 1986. 366 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,679 I had some, um, health problems when I was a kid, never really at school. 367 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,719 My mum bought me a radio cassette as a bit of company. 368 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,559 I see. It's a commitment, maintaining an archive like this. 369 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Of course, I started on the big project, three years ago. 370 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,519 A full format transfer from cassette tape to cd. 371 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,799 No point being analogue in a digital age. 372 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,679 How long did that take? I only just finished it last month. 373 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,239 Every show Johnny ever did. 374 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,319 Except for the hospital radio shows. 375 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,279 That's where I first heard him, when I was in for one of me operations. 376 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:48,039 Right, I'm going to send some lads down to box this lot up and take it to the station. 377 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,359 Box it up? 378 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,719 Have you any idea how much my collection is worth? 379 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,719 I don't know. 380 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,639 Well, it's priceless! I mean, absolutely priceless. 381 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,919 But I need to listen to them. 382 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,279 Well... can't you just listen to them here? 383 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,800 I could put the kettle on and make us both a cuppa. 384 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:17,919 He won't be long. He's just finished recording some jingles. 385 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,319 Thanks. Thank you. 386 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120 Look at all this stuff. 387 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,639 The smash hits award for most popular dj. 388 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,439 Johnny won in '86. 389 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,679 Sarah says I'm Johnny's mad curator, keeping his memory alive. 390 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,759 Quite the ladies' man, wasn't he? The ladies were queuing up. 391 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,959 Not according to Georgina achebe. 392 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,239 She says that Johnny forced himself on her. 393 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,839 No, he didn't. How do you know that? Were you there? Were you? 394 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,119 Johnny wasn't like that. 395 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,199 She was a bitch! She'd only been in radio for five minutes 396 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,959 and she thought it was ok to risk the career of someone 397 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,079 with over 20 years broadcasting experience. 398 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,119 No, no, no, he risked that himself when he assaulted her. Assaulted? 399 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,719 No, bit of fun. So he did make a pass? 400 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,399 Yes, but she should have treated it as a compliment. 401 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,239 He found her attractive! 402 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,879 Cameron Wyatt agreed, so he sacked her. She was trying to damage Johnny's career. 403 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,239 I'd say it was Johnny's libido doing the damage. 404 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,159 And it wasn't the first time, was it? 405 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,319 I'm not sure what you're getting at. 406 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,039 Milton keynes? Frank Bryant and his daughter? 407 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,079 That was a misunderstanding. 408 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,759 Johnny dropped the charges. 409 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,879 Why? 410 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,039 Like I said, 411 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,840 it was a misunderstanding. 412 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,519 Johnny's voice: 'But we are going to have to accept that britain is full. 413 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,319 'Let's pull up the drawbridge, put up the sign, closed to immigrants. 414 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,399 'Except the Polish. My cleaning lady's a pole and she's a damn hard worker...' 415 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,999 'i haven't got a problem with gays, just keep it behind closed doors, away from children. 416 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,759 'Don't shove it in our faces and down our throats...' 417 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,159 'what is more British than a good old fox hunt? 418 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,159 'I mean, if we ban it, what are we going to put on our Christmas cards? 419 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,200 'Seriously?' 420 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,039 Yes, well, he was, er... Quite opinionated. 421 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,839 He told it like it was. 422 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,959 He knew how to get a debate going. 423 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,599 The lines would be jammed every night with calls. 424 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,519 People desperate to get on his show. 425 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,159 If only to call him a tosser and slam the phone down. 426 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,919 And who was this Tarzan girl who kept calling? 427 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,280 I don't... Tarzan girl? 428 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,999 'Hi, Johnny, Tarzan girl again. Just wanted to say I love you 429 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,639 'and the show and can you play Tarzan boy by...' 430 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,159 'no. Do you know why that is? 431 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,319 'Because this is a talk show. 432 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,240 'Stupid cow.' 433 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,079 now, I've only listened to a week's worth of shows 434 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,839 and she's already rung in three times. 435 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,559 Johnny got a lot of nutters. 436 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,559 I mean, it was all part of the fun. 437 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,719 So, did you ever actually meet him? 438 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:13,279 No, no, no. I went to, um, one of his radio 1 roadshows once. 439 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,600 So Jeremy, what else do you get up to? 440 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,599 Not much. I've got the shop, obviously. 441 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,399 That takes up most of my time. 442 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,439 Have you actually had a customer today? 443 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Oh, well, it's always quiet on Tuesdays. It's Thursday. 444 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,439 You know, it's nice to have a hobby, 445 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,279 but it's nice to get out too. 446 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,879 Smell the roses, drink the wine. 447 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,639 Make some friends? Yeah, well, I've never been any good at that. 448 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,960 What with me missing school... I'm not confident and sorted like you. 449 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,640 I saw how you were with your mates at the station. 450 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,559 Oh, aye, we have a laugh. 451 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,079 Well, we do when everyone's there. 452 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,839 I just never worked out how you actually did it. 453 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Made friends. Oh, it's easy. 454 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:18,160 In fact, it's so easy you've just done it without even realising. 455 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,399 What, really? Me and you? 456 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Yeah, of course. 457 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,399 By the way. 458 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,560 This is not a complete collection. 459 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,759 What are you trying to say? 460 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,999 There's a tape missing. 461 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960 23rd of August. 462 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,760 No, that's not missing. There wasn't a show that day because of the pensioners occupying the station. 463 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,439 A week before the fire, the station was invaded and occupied by 464 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,319 this militant gang of Wyatt corporation pensioners. Mm-hm? 465 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:00,479 When the police finally entered the building, they found the ringleaders had chained themselves to the desks. 466 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,279 Although, they did come quietly. Ok. Next question. 467 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,679 Are you absolutely sure this is where we'll find the ringleader? 468 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:14,680 Fair trade, not free trade. Thanks, which one is Harriet longthorn? 469 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,119 She's just around the corner. 470 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:26,439 Fair trade, not free trade. Fair trade, not free trade. 471 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,239 Here she is. Cheers. Harriet longthorn? Yes, dear? 472 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,519 Detective superintendent Pullman, Brian Lane, ucos. 473 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,359 We're re-investigating a fire at roxy radio studios 474 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,359 and was hoping you could help us with our enquiries. "Help with our enquiries?" 475 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,639 Yes, I'd just like to ask you a few questions. 476 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,079 Well, would that be under caution, dear? 477 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,559 I don't think there's any need for that just yet. 478 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,439 But you're anticipating there will be eventually? 479 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,359 No. What if I refuse? 480 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,919 Retain my right to silence? 481 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,959 I'd just like to ask you a few questions. 482 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:03,319 That's how it usually starts. A few questions. 483 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,639 What about if I promise to abide by the Geneva convention? 484 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,960 Now, it's up to you, you can talk to us here or down at the station. 485 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,880 I don't suppose any of you remember who has the keys? No. 486 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,800 They cheer 487 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Loud bang 488 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Cameron?! 489 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,319 Oh! Just a little something the bailiff missed. 490 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,839 Huh! I thought you'd, er... I mean, from upstairs it sounded like... 491 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,639 You thought I'd killed myself? 492 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,079 Well, your family does have a history of it. 493 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,999 I can't afford a Bentley. Or a gun. 494 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,439 I'd have stuck my head in the oven, but they've turned off the gas. 495 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,439 No, I'm sorry, it's not funny, is it? Oh, yes, it is. 496 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,719 In fact, I've done a lot more laughing since this whole thing kicked off. Really? 497 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,399 There's never any time before. I was on the corporate treadmill from 16. 498 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,679 I'd still be on it, if it wasn't for dad. 499 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,479 You sound like you're glad that he got caught out. I am. 500 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,759 Oh, I'd been at it for years. 501 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,279 Living to work. 502 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,079 Ignoring Gemma and the kids. 503 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,039 Doing things I could never be proud of. 504 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,879 Like ignoring Georgina achebe's sexual harassment case? 505 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,839 I didn't know anything about that. 506 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,519 You refused to take her calls. 507 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,199 I didn't want to bother with the problems of some tiny part of the business. 508 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,719 Actually, the less time I spent in a room with Graham and Johnny, the better. 509 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,679 Really? Johnny was a straightforward arsehole 510 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,039 which was why he was so good on the radio. 511 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,079 Graham gave me the creeps. He was always sucking up to Johnny. 512 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,999 Always agreeing with him, telling him how great he was. 513 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,879 Yeah, but that's show biz, ain't it? 514 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,359 They hated each other, just couldn't function apart. 515 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:28,199 In fact, that's what Graham seemed scared of, being without Johnny. Huh? 516 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,240 Cheers. 517 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,119 Here, take this. 518 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,679 Oh, thanks, '85! Whoa! I'll save that for a special occasion. 519 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,559 Well, then I'll it back. 520 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,680 Don't put off the good stuff. 521 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,319 I worked since the minute I left school 522 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,119 and what have I got to show for it? A nice house? No. 523 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,439 A wife to come home to? 524 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,279 No. 525 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,359 It's not the most original thought, but life's too short. 526 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,279 Yeah, maybe you're right. 527 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,800 I'll open it tonight. 528 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,519 So what's next for you then? 529 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,759 I used my last working credit card to book 530 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,799 a one-way flight to Seattle, where Gemma and the kids are. 531 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,639 I may be too late, but it's worth a try. 532 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,479 Yeah, well go for it. 533 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680 Good luck and thanks. 534 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,719 Your arrest record. 535 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,879 Impressive. Thank you very much. 536 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,959 Menwith hill, sellafield, London fashion week? 537 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,439 Campaign against the fur trade. 538 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,119 So, if I were to ask you what you were rebelling against? 539 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,719 I'd say, "what have you got?" 540 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,119 There's a difference between rebelling and... 541 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,479 Trespass, criminal damage, threatening behaviour... 542 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,199 No-one ever gets hurt. 543 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,239 At roxy radio, someone died. 544 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,359 That was nothing to do with the campaign. 545 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,959 Your gang occupied the building the week before. 546 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,319 You walked in, chained yourself to the desks during a broadcast. 547 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,279 What was to stop you walking in a week later to plant an incendiary device? 548 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,119 That's not what we're about. 549 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,279 We inconvenience and disrupt, that's all. 550 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,399 We'd already made our point at roxy radio. 551 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,599 We'd have moved on to the next target. 552 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,919 So how did you just walk in? 553 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,920 I'm sorry? To roxy radio? How did you get past the key code doors? 554 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,479 Oh, I can't remember, dear. 555 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,559 I've slept since then. 556 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,559 Who gave you the codes? 557 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,479 Somebody with a grudge? 558 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,159 Well, there had been massive redundancies. 559 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,959 Not at roxy radio. That was one of the few places where people hadn't lost their jobs. 560 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,760 Except for one person. 561 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,199 I'm going to see Georgina achebe. 562 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,279 See how she feels about direct action. 563 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,599 Hold on, listen to this. 564 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,799 "He's not right, I could tell by the look in his eyes. 565 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,359 "He didn't give a damn. He's a dirty pervert. 566 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,559 "Look, I admit I hit him. 567 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,439 "But you can't tell me he didn't deserve it. Not after... 568 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,439 "She's only 15, for god's sake." Are you auditioning for something? 569 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,959 This is the transcript of the statement frank Bryant gave the boys at Milton keynes. 570 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,519 No wonder he dropped the charges. 571 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Johnny got smacked because he spent the night with Bryant's daughter. 572 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:23,399 The 15-year-old? Exactly. 573 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,559 Graham madeley's statement said Johnny never touched the girl and the assault was unprovoked. 574 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,559 The girl wouldn't make a statement, which left the Milton keynes boys on a sticky wicket. 575 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,319 No complaint from the victim, no charges. 576 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,039 I'm beginning to see why Johnny wanted madeley around all the time. 577 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,520 He knew too much about him to let him go. 578 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:51,079 Before I was sacked, there was a memo sent round telling everyone 579 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,159 to be vigilant about security because of the protests. 580 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,439 It seemed like a good way to get back at everyone. 581 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,279 And I bet that felt good too. Yeah. 582 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,599 It did. So good that you thought you'd take it further? No... 583 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,959 You vandalised Johnny's car... That wasn't me! 584 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,759 ..But it wasn't enough, so you burnt the place down? 585 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,039 No, no, I promise. Once I'd given Harriet the code, that was me out. 586 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,079 I never wanted to set foot in that studio again. 587 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,639 I didn't realise until I'd left, but that place was poisonous. What do you mean? 588 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,199 The atmosphere between Johnny and Graham, everyone commented on it. 589 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,159 I thought they were friends. Not from what I could see. 590 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,479 I don't even think they liked each other. 591 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,399 There was no back and forth between them. 592 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,119 When you're close to someone, you take the piss. 593 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,759 The better you like them, the more you do it. 594 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,719 You mean they didn't banter? Well, Johnny did. 595 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,279 But it wasn't humorous, it was cruel. 596 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,959 I mean, I only ever heard Graham come back at him once. 597 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,879 When Johnny took the piss out of him for Sarah leaving him. 598 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,479 That's not funny. 599 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,279 No, not funny, 600 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,519 but it was true. 601 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,799 Sarah and Graham had had this huge row at the roxy radio summer party. 602 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,519 When was this? 603 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,199 About three weeks before the fire, just before I was sacked. 604 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,559 It happened during the firework display. 605 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,239 Everyone was outside, and when the noise died down we all heard 606 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:18,479 Sarah shouting that Graham could come home when he wanted cos she wouldn't be there when he got back. 607 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,839 Look, I didn't burn that place down. 608 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,560 You have to believe that. 609 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,439 I think we can rule out the grey panthers, but Georgina is still in the frame for me. 610 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,399 She's still not copping for the car vandalism either? 611 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,319 No, insisting it wasn't her. 612 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,039 Popular guy, wasn't he? 613 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,799 Johnny? 614 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,679 I only listened to a few of his shows, I wanted to set fire to him myself. 615 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,719 I was the same after hearing what frank Bryant had to say. 616 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,639 The only person with a good word for him so far is Graham. 617 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,439 Yet everyone reckons Johnny treated him like muck. 618 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,439 Yet he won't hear a bad word about him. 619 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,599 His office is like a shrine to Johnny. 620 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,679 He's a Deacon disciple. 621 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,479 True, but the more we question him, the less comfortable he is. 622 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,599 Whoa, hold on, wait! 623 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,959 Enjoy it. 624 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,079 That's what I was trying to do. 625 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,240 No, no, no, look, look, look... 626 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,680 Well? Gorgeous. 627 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,799 That's what I mean, 628 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,839 you've gotta give yourself time to enjoy life's little pleasures. 629 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,839 Oh, here we go. Ever since you had that bonding session with Cameron, 630 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,159 it's been all, "smell the flowers, feel the wind." 631 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,479 Well, I think he's right. 632 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,599 I mean, we're all on a hamster wheel, aren't we? 633 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,400 Well, maybe I'm thinking of opting out of the rat race. 634 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,319 Are we rats or are we hamsters? 635 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,199 Maybe I don't want to be any kind of rodent. 636 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,959 Maybe I don't want to work until they find me cold and stiff in the corner of the cage. 637 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,519 Listen, it's the roxy radio funday tomorrow. 638 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,439 I think we should go along there and rattle a few cages. 639 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,279 Especially Graham's. 640 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,879 How we gonna do that? 641 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,239 He'd be on his guard as soon as he saw us. 642 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,959 Only you and me. He doesn't know Brian, does he? 643 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,320 He could just be a fan going along to ask some pertinent questions. 644 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,599 Yeah, well, the only problem is, he doesn't really look like a roxy radio fan, does he? Hmm. 645 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,039 Well, I could do, though. 646 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799 What's a roxy radio fan look like? 647 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,559 Music: EastEnders theme tune 648 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000 Esther? It's me. 649 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,239 Have I got any clothes in pastel shades? 650 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,159 Jeremy just popped round. 651 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,759 I said you wouldn't be long, so he might as well stay and have a cuppa. 652 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,519 And watch EastEnders. Right. 653 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,399 We've had a lovely chat. 654 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,039 You don't mind, do you? 655 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,159 You did say we were friends now. 656 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,879 No, it's fine. 657 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,879 Another biscuit? 658 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,480 Oh, yes, please. 659 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,759 I'll see you then. Bye! Bye. (Go on... Go on...) 660 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,280 Shush... 661 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,479 Well, I think it's nice that you've got a new friend. 662 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,639 I was just being polite. 663 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,999 I was just trying to boost his confidence 664 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,879 so he might go out and find some friends his own age. 665 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,799 You know, maybe go to a disco or something. 666 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,479 Talk about the blind leading the socially inept. 667 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,159 What's that supposed to mean? 668 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,679 You haven't got any friends either, have you? Of course I have! 669 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,399 What do you call Sandra and Gerry and Jack? 670 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,320 Your colleagues. 671 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,240 He's come as what? 672 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,199 Oh, that is brilliant... 673 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,679 Yeah, I'm on my way out now... 674 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,519 I'll see you later. Ok, bye. 675 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,480 Phone rings 676 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,360 Pullman. 677 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,920 Oh, hello, sir. Could I call you back cos... 678 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,079 No, I haven't really had the time. 679 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,600 This case has been... 680 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,319 No, sir. 681 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,000 Yes, right away, sir. 682 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,439 Come on, then. 683 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,639 I feel like a right berk. 684 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,719 I look like a right berk. 685 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,480 No, it's terrific. You'll blend in. 686 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,199 What has Esther done to me? 687 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,519 Are you sure you've never seen Miami vice? No! I told you. 688 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,479 I don't watch police shows. 689 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,119 They're a load of rubbish. 690 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,519 I think you're supposed to be Crockett. 691 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,119 No, Esther said something about how she'd like to come home to Don Johnson. 692 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,959 I take it he doesn't wear socks. 693 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,679 Music: I think we're alone now by Tiffany 694 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,599 and we all love that one. Are you having a good time? 695 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,799 Yes! 696 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,640 Well, that's good cos a little bird tells me it can only get better. 697 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,199 Hiya. Hi. 698 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,119 Day two of campaign get a life. You were talking about this funday thing 699 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,799 and, er, I thought it sounded like, well, fun. 700 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,359 So I thought, wouldn't it be cool if you were Crockett and I was tubbs? 701 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,279 Or is it the other way round? 702 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,519 Look, Jeremy, I'm working. 703 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,759 Oh, oh, sorry... Um, I didn't mean to get in the way. 704 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,279 I'm rubbish at this. I'll go. No, no... I'm getting on your nerves. 705 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,999 I do it with everyone eventually... No, you're fine. 706 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,280 Look, there's someone you ought to meet. 707 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,559 And it's all killer, no filler today. 708 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,559 And remember, at roxy we're never gonna give you up. 709 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,079 Music: Never gonna give you up by Rick astley 710 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,999 it must be really nice for you. 711 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,839 What? Working with your wife. Yeah, it suits us. 712 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,199 I could never have worked with any of mine. 713 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,919 Not without it ending up coming to blows. 714 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,879 We've had our moments. 715 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,959 Yeah, that's right, you split up for a while, didn't you? 716 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,079 Yeah, it was a bit of a rough patch. I was working too hard. 717 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,759 Weren't seeing enough of each other. Is that all? Well, isn't it enough? 718 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,679 And here she is. And what can I do for you, my little chickadee? 719 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,479 Barry wants to know what time you're starting the display. 720 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,599 When it gets dark, dizzy daydream. 721 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,399 What display? Fireworks - to music. It's brilliant. 722 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,239 I've gone a bit edgy this year. 723 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:04,639 Two tribes by Frankie. You know, a little bit of politics. 724 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,559 D'you mean you actually put together the firework display? 725 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,679 Yeah. I took my firer's exams when I was doing the radio 1 road shows. 726 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,599 Johnny liked a bit of an entrance. Last year he did bohemian rhapsody. 727 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,519 It was amazing! Just how everything went off in time with the music. 728 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,599 I'll never be able to do that. 729 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,839 Maybe one day. Sarah came on a refresher course with me one year. 730 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,639 She wasn't a natural, were you? 731 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,199 I don't like the ones that bang. 732 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,319 So how do you actually get 'em all to go off to the music? 733 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,039 Just use the right fuses. 734 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,199 Fuses? Yeah. Excuse me. 735 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,199 And we have another request from our funday funsters. 736 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,400 It's Tarzan boy by baltimora. 737 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,920 Tarzan girl? 738 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,079 I think I'll follow this up with high fidelity. 739 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,199 Can't beat the kids from fame. 740 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,959 Actually, I think that's gonna have to be your last track. What? 741 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,959 You've gotta come down the station. 742 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,959 My boss wants to talk to you urgently. 743 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,039 Why? He hasn't done anything. 744 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,559 What's going on? 745 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,399 It's all right, love. Look, I'm not leaving now. I'm on for another hour. 746 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,480 Graham, mate, you don't want to make a scene in front of all these nice people, do ya? Brian! 747 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:49,159 And I'll be signing off now but I'll be leaving you in the capable hands of Barry "the kid" Johnson. 748 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,400 See you on the flipside. Good boy. 749 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,600 Graham, it's going to be ok. I'm coming, too. 750 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:06,199 You've been a certified pyrotechnist since 1985. I told you that. 751 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,359 You had easy access to the kind of specialist fuse that was used to burn down roxy radio. 752 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,479 Why would I burn down the place where I work? 753 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,239 The place that I'm fighting to keep open now? 754 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,959 That's a good question. 755 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,399 Tell us about yours and Sarah's separation. There's nothing to tell. 756 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,599 It was a blip. She came back. 757 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,639 When was that? I don't know. 758 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,759 After the fire. Why then? 759 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:37,599 So she could stand by me through the most difficult time of my life. That's what wives do. 760 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,319 Then why weren't you living together at the time? It was nothing. 761 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,399 Cameron Wyatt offered me my own show. The afternoon slot. I didn't want it. 762 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,439 Why not? I told you. 763 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,919 Johnny and I, we're a team. 764 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,719 So Johnny objected to you having your own show. 765 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,159 Especially in a less anti-social time slot. 766 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,639 I mean, you were a married man, after all. 767 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,320 Or was that something else he objected to as well? 768 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,279 He made you choose, didn't he? Between Sarah and him. 769 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,799 She must have been very hurt when you made your decision. 770 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,159 I'd known him such a long time. I couldn't just leave him. 771 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,319 But if you didn't, you'd lose your wife. 772 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,359 She didn't understand. Johnny and I had been through a lot together. 773 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,799 Or was it that he had put you through a lot? 774 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,399 I don't understand. 775 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,519 The attack on Georgina wasn't the first inappropriate act, was it? 776 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,159 Tell us about Milton keynes. 777 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,079 Well, you seem to know everything, you tell me. 778 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,879 Well, we do know everything, now. 779 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,839 We know that frank Bryant's daughter was only 15 years old. 780 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,919 Those were very different times. 781 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,879 Age wasn't such big a deal. 782 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,359 I think it was. Especially the age of consent. 783 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,279 We didn't know she was that young. 784 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,160 It didn't seem to bother her, she was just a groupie. 785 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,159 No, no, no, no, no, that came out wrong. 786 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:00,439 You see, the question I keep asking myself is, how many other groupies were they? 787 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,519 How many other angry fathers did you have to deal with? 788 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,759 You don't understand. Oh, no, I think we do. 789 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,879 I mean, you weren't just Johnny's friend and manager. 790 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,479 You were an accomplice to a sexual predator. 791 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,399 How does it go, eh? What happens on tour stays on tour? 792 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,599 But then Georgina came along. A bit close to home that. 793 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,039 You really had to pull all the stops to get her out of the picture. 794 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,239 You even had to involve Cameron Wyatt. Was that the last straw? 795 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,440 Was that when you finally decided Johnny had to go? 796 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,679 I think... 797 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,639 I need to speak to a solicitor now. 798 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,519 I really thought we were on for a full confession there. 799 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,719 He knows we haven't got anything concrete. 800 00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:53,000 It's all theory and no evidence. Maybe because he didn't do it. 801 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,839 Tarzan girl. 802 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,919 Sorry? 803 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,399 I think Johnny was being stalked by one of his listeners. 804 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,799 When she didn't get the attention she wanted, she vandalised his car. 805 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,359 When that didn't work, she started playing with matches. 806 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,159 Don't tell me you want me to put out an apb for Tarzan girl, Brian? 807 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,600 No need. 808 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,359 Johnny's voice: 'You're on the air. What do you want to say?' 809 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,519 'hi, Johnny! Love the show.' 810 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,399 'the topic is whether teenagers should be given the morning after pill 811 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,159 'or made to face the consequences of their bad behaviour.' 812 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,959 'yeah, I was just wondering if you'd play a record for me? Tarzan boy? 813 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,840 'Do you remember it, Johnny?' 814 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,039 never did remember though, did he? 815 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,119 Now back in '85, when that song was in the charts, you'd be what, 15? 816 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,839 14. I was 14. 817 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,239 Was that how old you were when you met Johnny? 818 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:54,479 Yeah. 12th of August, the best day of my life. 819 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,119 That was the day I went see top of the pops live. 820 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,279 Sounds like fun. Yeah, it was. 821 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,519 We were only in the crowd and right at the back, that's when Graham came up and started chatting to me. 822 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,079 I had a Johnny Deacon badge on and he asked me if wanted to go backstage and meet him. 823 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,959 And did you? Yeah. And I met baltimora. 824 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,839 He was your favourite, wasn't he? Oh, yeah. 825 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,439 Sharon, did, um, 826 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,399 did something happen that night? 827 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,920 Something you weren't ready for? 828 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,399 He said he had some new records back at his flat that I might like. 829 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,359 He said it would be a nice thank you. 830 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,719 He said I should be grateful, 831 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,199 that he'd picked me out of all the other girls. 832 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,999 Afterwards, I was so bloody ashamed of myself. 833 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,559 I'd been so stupid. 834 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,840 It wasn't your fault. You were only 14. 835 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,999 So how did you end up at roxy radio? 836 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,959 I saw the ad in the paper and applied. 837 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,159 I thought if I was going to be a cleaner, I might as well be somewhere interesting. 838 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,639 I couldn't believe it when Johnny joined the station. How was that? 839 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,359 Seeing each other every day? 840 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,119 I saw him, but he didn't see me. 841 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,679 I was just the cleaner. 842 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,599 Is that why you started calling in to the show? Jog his memory? 843 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,439 It didn't work. 844 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,639 I needed to do something... Bigger. 845 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,839 Show him I wasn't just going to be ignored. 846 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,759 You smashed Johnny's car up? 847 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,959 I don't know what got in to me. 848 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,279 I mean, once I started, I couldn't stop. 849 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,519 What was wrong with me? What did I do something like that for? 850 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,719 Cos Johnny Deacon raped you. No, he didn't. 851 00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:34,479 Look, I know you went back to the flat, but you were underage, you were vulnerable... 852 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,039 It wasn't Johnny. 853 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,919 It was Graham. Graham? 854 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,599 Graham madeley? 855 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,359 Yes. 856 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,479 Johnny would never do a thing like that. 857 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,279 But Graham, 858 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,959 I think he'd done it before. 859 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,079 Is that why you started the fire at night? To kill Graham? 860 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,639 I didn't start the fire! I'd never do anything to hurt Johnny. 861 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,639 I was trying to help him! 862 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,959 I knew he was trapped. I heard him screaming. 863 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,639 But then there was an explosion, 864 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,839 the fire brigade thinks it was something electrical. 865 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,840 And all I saw was a flash. 866 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,519 And it was the last thing I ever saw. 867 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,119 I'm sorry, Sharon. 868 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,279 And I should have been on my way home by then. Why weren't you? 869 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,799 I was running late all night. 870 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,919 I had to wait to get my cleaning stuff. 871 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,039 There was someone in the ladies' when I got there. 872 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,239 How d'you mean? Well, there was no broom cupboard. 873 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:39,079 I had to store all my cleaning stuff in the ladies' loo. 874 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,839 Who was in there? 875 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,239 I don't know. I knocked and there was no answer. 876 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,039 I just assumed it was that black girl. 877 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,199 Georgina? No, no, it couldn't have been. 878 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,040 At that time you were the only woman working there. 879 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,279 Could have been anyone in the toilet. 880 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,919 You're right. It could have been any woman who knew the security code 881 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,519 and had firework training. Anyone at all. 882 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,479 Now we can do this the hard way or the easy way. 883 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,359 The hard way involves me and my officers going through 884 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,519 every report, every statement until we prove that you were there. 885 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,520 That option also involves me telling the jury at your trial just how uncooperative you've been. 886 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,399 Or there's the easy way. 887 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,399 You tell me everything. And I do mean everything, Sarah. 888 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,319 I don't know what... We know about Graham and the girls. 889 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,279 The young girls. I don't know what you're getting at. 890 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,279 How old were you when Graham and you got together? 891 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,199 17, but I was very mature for my age. 892 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,399 Graham tell you that? Cos I bet that's what he told the other girls. 893 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,839 What other girls? There weren't any. Stop lying to me. Sarah... no, no! 894 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,879 I don't wanna listen to this. 895 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,559 I want Graham. I want to see him. 896 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,159 Sit down, Sarah. I want to see him now. Ok, ok. 897 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,679 You can see him. 898 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,320 But I want you to listen to something first. 899 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,679 'He said he had some new records back at his flat that I might like. 900 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,920 'He said it would be a nice thank you. 901 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,679 'He said I should be grateful, 902 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,319 'that he'd picked me out of all the other girls. 903 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,599 'Afterwards, I was so bloody ashamed of myself. 904 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,880 'I'd been so stupid.' 'It wasn't your f...' 905 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,560 still want to see Graham? 906 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,439 '..Johnny's car up?' 907 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,439 'i didn't know I had it in me. 908 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,679 'Once I started I just couldn't stop. 909 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,639 'I mean, what did I do that for, what was wrong with me?' 910 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,439 'because Johnny Deacon raped you.' 911 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,559 'no, he didn't.' 'Look, I know you went back to his flat, 912 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,999 'but you were underage, you were vulnerable...' 913 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,320 'it wasn't Johnny. 914 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,519 'It was Graham.' 915 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,600 she sobs 916 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,359 You did the right thing, Sarah. 917 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,319 A confession goes down better when it comes to sentencing. 918 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,560 So you said. 919 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,080 Sarah! Darling. 920 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,600 Sarah? 921 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,879 Not strictly procedure, but bloody effective... 922 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,679 I'm sorry, you were saying? 923 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,239 Nothing, sir. 924 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:36,039 No, go on. I'm interested in anything you have to say about procedure, 925 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,639 considering how it's been ignored around here. 926 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,279 I'm not sure I understand, sir. 927 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,799 An illegal mobile phone trace? 928 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,839 An even more illegal credit card search? Neither of them fruitful, 929 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,519 which suggests Jack halford doesn't want to be found. 930 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,399 Which is his prerogative, considering he's no longer 931 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,319 an employee of the metropolitan police. Since when? 932 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,039 Since he walked out of here without a backward glance! 933 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,519 Look, this is ridiculous. I will not have this department held to ransom. 934 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,199 It's time to move on. Quite right, sir. 935 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,239 You'll get my resignation in the morning. What? Fine. 936 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,559 We'll interview for yours and Jack's replacements. 937 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,919 Oh, I'm sorry, was this supposed to show me the error of my ways? 938 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,959 Prove how indispensable Jack is? Let me tell you this. 939 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,759 No-one is indispensable. Do I make myself clear? 940 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,839 Crystal, sir. 941 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,119 So, would you prefer my application for a transfer in writing, 942 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,119 or will an email do? 943 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:36,680 Don't be a bloody fool, Sandra. Well, don't expect a reference! 944 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,879 That could have gone better. 945 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,399 No, it was pretty impressive from where I stood. 946 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,079 Should buy Jack a bit more time, shouldn't it? 947 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,119 Hope so. Hope? 948 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,399 Of course he's coming back. 949 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,119 There was no need for you to fall on your swords! 950 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,879 Bloody stupid. 951 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,759 What if strickland meant it? 952 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,439 Well, what if he did? What are you saying? 953 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,119 Look, I'm only talking for myself, but if Jack doesn't come back... 954 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:13,119 Jack is coming back! How many times? 955 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,760 Brian, I don't think he is. 956 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,039 Look, we've had a good run. 957 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,840 We've solved a few cases. Maybe it is time to move on. 958 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,239 Yeah, well, that's all well and good. 959 00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:32,320 At least it is if you've got somewhere to move on to. 960 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,360 Brian! 961 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,680 Jack? 962 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:08,240 Jack? 963 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,840 Oh, Mary, where is he? 964 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,760 No. No! I'm not having this. 965 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,240 Subtitles by red bee media ltd 81845

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