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[Heavy breathing]
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Go on you can do it, sir,
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[Sandra] When the
builders found this,
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they called the local
police, who blew it up to us
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when they realised
it was relevant
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to an old murder case
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[Jack] How long was
the trap door obscured?
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[Sandra] Uh, builders reckon
the full ceiling was put in
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some time in the fifties.
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Any time after that it would
have been artexed over,
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oh, bloody hell,
I can't do this.
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Confined space, doctor's orders.
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It's all right Brian,
you don't have to
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come all the way up,
you can watch from there.
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- Okay?
- Yep.
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Look at that
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great big white fibres.
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Are they real?
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Certainly are.
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Real white fibres?
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Yeah, yeah, come
and have a look.
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Fantastic.
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They are beautiful.
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Look at them.
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You all right?
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Careful Brian.
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That's all right, it's
just psychological thing.
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I think she means mind
where you put your-
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- [Brian screams]
- [Ceiling cracks]
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foot.
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♪ It's all right, it's okay ♪
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♪ doesn't really matter
if you're old and grey ♪
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♪ it's all right I
say it's okay ♪
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♪ listen to what I say ♪
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♪ it's all right, doing fine ♪
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♪ doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine ♪
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♪ it's all right, I
say it's okay ♪
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♪ we're getting to
the end of the day ♪
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The suitcase had a label
indicating it was the property
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of a Fred tulley.
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Now tulley, who was single
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lived in the house
with his parents
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until he was murdered
in November 1953.
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He was a wagers clerk
at battersea power station.
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Hello, hello hello.
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He was shot dead in the street
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on the south side
of battersea bridge,
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on a dark foggy afternoon.
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The murder weapon,
which was later found
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on a number 19 bus,
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had been stuffed down
the back of an upstairs seat.
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- Prince?
- White fiend.
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But the witness who found
the gun, an Edward chambers,
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identified a man
getting off the bus
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as he was getting on.
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That man's name
was Richard Dunn,
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arrested within
days of the killing,
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charged with murder, convicted,
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refused leave to appeal,
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hanged in may, 1954,
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protested his innocence
the whole way.
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Dunn was a villain right?
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Yeah, he had
convictions for robbery
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and at the time of the
crime he was on bail
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for assaulting a police officer
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the prosecution argued that Dunn
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had been watching tulley,
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worked out that he
was wagers clerk,
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thought he was
taking cash to the bank.
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Was he carrying cash?
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Nope.
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And now we find
he had five grand
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in used fivers in his attic.
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Richard Dunn has a
vociferous granddaughter
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who's been active recently
claiming wrongful convictions.
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On what grounds?
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On the grounds that
the police conspired
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to pervert the
course of justice.
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Now, given the new
evidence about tulley
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we're going to
reinvestigate the case.
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All the original investigating
team are now dead,
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but there was a, uh, sergeant
collinson who was on the case,
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and he was still in the job
when you first joined, Jack.
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He was my first
governor actually.
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Really, what was he like?
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Oh, he got results.
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So, what'd you want.
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Uh, Brian, you and I
will look at Fred tulley,
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see what's known about him,
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Gerry, you and Jack
re-examine the case
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against Richard Dunn,
see if it still stands up.
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We'd be lucky if there are
any witnesses still around
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after all this time.
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Was it something I said ahead?
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Ahead of its time it was,
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kept London's electricity
flowing for 50 years.
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It's amazing to think that
they'd build a power station
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right in the middle of the city.
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Ah, but they had the technology
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to tackle environmental issues.
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90% of the sulphur was
removed from the chimney gases.
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Mr. Murray, would you mind
if we talked about Fred tulley?
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Come in.
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Thank you.
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[Door slams]
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My grandfather Richard Dunn,
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was the victim of
a massive injustice,
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and the truth has been
buried for 50 years.
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I don't believe that it's
gonna be uncovered
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by a scratch team of
superannuated plods.
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[Reporter] So can you tell us
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why you're here today, Hannah?
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I'm here to petition
the home secretary,
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for a full scale public inquiry.
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Silly cow.
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Her bastard grandad was...
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Uh, beg pardon, miss.
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Don't mind me?
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Shit house done.
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He shot down Fred tulley
like a dog in the street.
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What was your job at the
power station, mr Murray?
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Oh, stoker in the furnace.
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I thought the battersea furnaces
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were fed by pulverised coal.
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Oh yes, they were,
state of the art
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as they'd say it now,
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but the boilers that
were installed in the war
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they had retort stoker furnaces.
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Get away.
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That's where I was working.
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That's interesting,
because you're a-
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not now, Brian.
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Could Fred tulley, had been
involved in something illegal?
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Fred tulley, was his
honest as the day is long,
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and Richard Dunn
must be burning in hell.
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And I'm looking forward
to being chief stoker.
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[Brian giggles]
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[Knocking on door]
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Yes?
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Sir Edward.
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Mr. Halford, and mr Stanley.
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[Jack] Good morning.
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Thank you for
making time to see us.
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I don't think we'll detain
each other very long.
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In 1953 you were a witness
in the case of Richard Dunn,
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who was accused of
murdering Frederick tulley.
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That's correct.
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Where re investigating the case
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in the light of new evidence,
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and we'd like a fresh
interview with you,
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to see if anything might have
been missed or misinterpreted
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in the original inquiry.
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I regret I will not be
cooperating with you
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in your investigation.
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Why?
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Richard John's granddaughter,
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Hannah Parker, contacted
me sometime ago.
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She had severe,
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and I must say well
substantiated criticisms,
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of the way the original
police inquiry was conducted.
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Well we're going
to be looking at that.
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Ms. Parker takes the view
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that only a full
scale public inquiry
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can deal with the matter.
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She's asked me not
to cooperate with you
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and your re-investigation.
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I must say she was
very persuasive.
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How do.
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All right?
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How'd you get on?
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The archives of the central
electricity generating board
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are absolutely fascinating.
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Ta-da!
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Battersea power station.
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[Scoffs] Landmark of London,
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secular cathedral,
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temple of power,
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the 105 megawatt generating set,
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that came into
operation in 1935,
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was the largest unit installed
in britain or the continent.
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That's not actually what
I wanted to know, Brian.
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No?
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No.
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Oh, sorry.
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What about the wages office,
were there any missing funds?
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No.
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Okay so we're not
looking for a wages clerk
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with his hand in the till.
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No.
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You know why they got
rid of these, don't you?
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White fibres.
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Why?
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Because beautiful
though they were,
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they were too
easy to counterfeit.
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Now you have told
me something useful.
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I'll get onto the bank of
england see what they can tell us.
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So you never actually knew
your father, Mrs. Parker?
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No, my mother married again.
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I didn't find out what
my real family history was
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until I was a teenager.
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It must have been very
difficult to deal with?
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Yes, it, uh,
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it still is,
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but if you let the fact
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that your dad was hanged
for murder rule your life,
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then they've killed you as well.
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I survived got on with my life,
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there was nothing
to be ashamed of.
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Of course not,
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but I'm afraid we do still
have to talk about your father.
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Yeah, look, my
father was a criminal,
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but he wasn't a murderer.
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That's why we've
reopened the case,
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that's why we
wanted to talk to you.
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Obviously it's very
difficult to find people
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who knew him at
this distance in time
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we just wondered if you could
put us in touch with anyone.
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My mother started a new life.
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She didn't want it to keep up
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with the people that
my dad had known,
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and what relatives he had
that they've all gone now,
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so, it's just me
and my daughter.
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Hannah, she's very committed
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to getting the
verdict overturned,
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she would have been here by now.
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But, uh, she's been
held up in court.
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Anything serious?
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She's a solicitor.
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Oh I see.
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Specialises in
civil liberties cases.
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Ah.
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Does she?
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She advised me not
to answer any questions
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in her absence.
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[Phone rings]
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Sandra Pullman.
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Oh, thanks for
getting back to us.
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So then it's a genuine?
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Really?
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No, no, that's
terrific, thank you,
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you've been a great help.
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Cheers, bye.
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Well?
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Those fibres were
taken out of circulation
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in the summer of '53, they
should have been incinerated.
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Where?
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Well, in those days
they used a furnace
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at battersea power station.
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[Tense music]
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Hello Douglas.
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We need to have another word.
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When Fred tulley died he was
in possession of bank notes,
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bank notes that had been
withdrawn from circulation,
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and should have
been incinerated.
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You worked on the
retort stoker furnace,
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as you were telling us.
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Oh yes I did sir, correct.
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Which is where the bank
of england came to dispose
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of their bank notes.
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Oh, well, it was all
a, a long time ago.
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Well, I'm sure that'll be
taken into consideration
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when deciding on further action,
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along with whether you've
been cooperative or not.
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The geezers from the
bank of england turn up,
265
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and we have to stand well
back while they get on with it.
266
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Now they shoved the money
267
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in the lowest level
in the furnace,
268
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then they bugger off
thinking the job's done.
269
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But it wasn't?
270
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It's all wrong.
271
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Thick wads of paper
don't burn easily,
272
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you have to put them
high up in the furnace,
273
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where the temperatures hottest.
274
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When I rake out
the ash the next day
275
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I find the money.
276
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So how long did this go on for?
277
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Months and months,
278
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until somebody noticed the
were note surviving the process
279
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so they altered the
procedure, yeah,
280
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made us stokers put
it in at a right level.
281
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Though they never knew
we'd been having it away.
282
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And tulley handled it for you?
283
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He reckoned he
couldn't fence for us now
284
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laundering they call it now.
285
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I don't see the point of a
further police investigation.
286
00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:28,479
Well, we're trying
to establish the facts
287
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about Frederick tulley's death,
288
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and there's some new evidence,
289
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which is so in a different
light on Mr. Tulley.
290
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I've established the
facts I'm interested in,
291
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which show that my grandfather
was wrongly convicted.
292
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Then we'd appreciate it
293
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if you'd share your
findings with us.
294
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My grandfather was a
victim of judicial murder.
295
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It's putting it rather strongly.
296
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Instigated by the police,
297
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so what's required isn't
a fresh police whitewash,
298
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it's a public inquiry with
evidence out in the open.
299
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[Laughs] Southend.
300
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Did you used to go?
301
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Yeah.
302
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Oh, the curser, what
a ride that was, eh.
303
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Yeah, every bank holiday
304
00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,639
we'd all bundle into my
uncle's Van and go down there,
305
00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,999
I used to love it.
306
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Me too.
307
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My idea of a big treat was the
308
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candy floss on the pier.
309
00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:23,760
Sweet tooth, eh?
310
00:12:23,761 --> 00:12:25,279
You know, I really don't
think my mother and I
311
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have any more to say to you.
312
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Yes, well if you should
change your mind
313
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we'd be delighted
to hear from you.
314
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We'll be in touch.
315
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[Children chattering]
316
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Afternoon ms Parker.
317
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Mr. Standing.
318
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I'm trying to tell
my girls about it.
319
00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,279
I say imagine southend pier,
320
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one of the wonders of the world,
321
00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,959
it stretches so far out to sea,
322
00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,039
you need a train to
get you there and back.
323
00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,199
We had a beach
hut at shoeburyness.
324
00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,239
All I can remember of shoebury
is when you went paddling
325
00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,319
you could see right across
the thames estuary to Kent,
326
00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,879
and you had this
magnificent view
327
00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,119
of sheerness oil refinery.
328
00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,159
That's right and
then every so often,
329
00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,039
there'd be an almighty
bang, shell going off.
330
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,440
That's right, from the
artillery range down the coast.
331
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Funny idea for a holiday
when you think about it, isn't it?
332
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But we were happy.
333
00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,760
Yeah, well yeah.
334
00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,199
You know, I always thought I
had it hard when I was a kid,
335
00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,840
but what you had to deal
with finding out about your dad
336
00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,120
I'm not sure how I
would've coped with that.
337
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,560
I'm not sure if I ever did.
338
00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,200
I always had the feeling,
339
00:14:06,201 --> 00:14:09,799
that world could suddenly
turn upside down on me.
340
00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,319
I could never believe
in any kind of security,
341
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,080
so I suppose I didn't
give it a chance,
342
00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,320
that's how I broke up with
Hannah's father, really.
343
00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,080
Yeah, there's a lot of it about.
344
00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,719
That is terrific.
345
00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,720
No, no I really appreciate it.
346
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,360
Well as soon as she can
find time basically as soon as.
347
00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,079
Listen June, I promise
you you won't regret this.
348
00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,479
We'll do a really
good job for you.
349
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,639
Yeah, great.
350
00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,040
I'll speak to you soon, bye.
351
00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,119
What was all that about?
352
00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,519
June has squared it with Hannah.
353
00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,999
She's going to cooperate
with our investigation,
354
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,759
going to share everything
that she's found out.
355
00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,720
That's brilliant.
356
00:14:53,721 --> 00:14:55,319
- [Gerry] Yeah.
- [Jack] Terrific.
357
00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,320
Isn't it?
358
00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,840
How does everybody else feel?
359
00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,439
How did you swing that, Gerry?
360
00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,359
Oh I use the old empathy.
361
00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,280
People skills basically,
innit? [Chuckles]
362
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,799
Thanks for this Hannah,
hopefully you won't regret it.
363
00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,640
This is a family matter,
364
00:15:15,641 --> 00:15:17,999
and I'm respecting
my mother's wishes.
365
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,160
If it were up to me...
366
00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,279
Well let's get on
with it, shall we?
367
00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,399
- Thank you.
- Yeah.
368
00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,320
So what's your understanding
369
00:15:25,321 --> 00:15:27,000
of the case against
Richard Dunn?
370
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,479
Well within two days
of tulley being shot
371
00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,599
Richard Dunn was
taken in for questioning.
372
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,999
This was on the basis
of information received.
373
00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,279
From the bookie's
runner David walls,
374
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,399
he claimed that Richard Dunn
had robbed him at gunpoint.
375
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,559
Well, any investigator
would have to follow that up.
376
00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,639
Well, go on.
377
00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,159
What about material
evidence linking
378
00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,039
Dunn to the crime scene?
379
00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,439
A box of matches with
Dunn's fingerprints on
380
00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,879
was found near the scene.
381
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,639
Before the arrest?
382
00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:55,719
No, subsequently.
383
00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,159
Richard Dunn maintained
that he was offered a cigarette,
384
00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,719
and a box of matches by
detective sergeant collinson,
385
00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,399
during one of his interviews.
386
00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,919
Collinson and then
took the matches back.
387
00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,079
Dunn later argued at his trial
388
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,319
that they were
planted at the scene.
389
00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,679
Well he would say
that wouldn't he?
390
00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,519
In 1967 the then detective
superintendent collinson
391
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,639
was in charge of an
investigation into the murder
392
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,959
of a prostitute.
393
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,399
A box of matches with the
prime suspects fingerprints
394
00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,480
was allegedly
found at the scene.
395
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,599
It was later discovered
on appeal that the log
396
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,120
of the investigation had
mysteriously disappeared.
397
00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,239
It would have shown
that the matches
398
00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,959
were found after
rather than before
399
00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,400
the prime suspects interview.
400
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,359
That's correct.
401
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,600
Collinson later retired
on medical grounds.
402
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,679
I can vouch for the
fact that Mr. Collinson
403
00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,279
was under very
considerable stress.
404
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,319
And what about in 1953?
405
00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,319
Was he under stress when
he fitted out my grandfather?
406
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,800
I'm in no position to
make any comment on that.
407
00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,199
You know what, the
thing is in the 21st century,
408
00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,960
this case would
never get to court.
409
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,479
Oh lovely, thank you.
410
00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,919
We've got a much
of a Murray's prints
411
00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,799
on the bands that held the
bundle of notes together.
412
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,800
Cooperation.
413
00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,559
Doesn't really get us much
further though, does it?
414
00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,119
No but there's more.
415
00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,439
As well as tulley's prints
416
00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,839
on the suitcase itself, they
think there's a second set.
417
00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,519
They're gonna
have to do some, uh,
418
00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,600
some clever stuff to
make them usable.
419
00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:27,679
And they might be from
someone entirely unconnected
420
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,480
with the investigation.
421
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,079
As for instance, a
railway Porter, a taxi driver,
422
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,679
the vendor of the
suitcase, the former owner.
423
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,680
Yeah,
424
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,159
but it's worth pursuing, Brian.
425
00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,160
Oh, certainly.
426
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,599
- Sandra.
- Eh?
427
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,639
Just there, you know,
about the fingerprints.
428
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,759
Mm?
429
00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,159
I was telling you stuff you
already knew, weren't I,
430
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,279
stuff you could have
worked out for yourself?
431
00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,839
Strictly speaking, yes.
432
00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,919
Well, that was the
feedback I was picking up
433
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,120
from your body language.
434
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,840
Oh.
435
00:18:03,841 --> 00:18:06,600
I'm sensitising myself
to the reactions of others.
436
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,960
Jolly...
437
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,800
Jolly good.
438
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,559
I thought you'd
like that, you know,
439
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,640
Esther's all for it.
440
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,679
We still have the evidence
of the guy who found the gun.
441
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,559
Edward chambers,
posh background,
442
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,279
national service
officer on leave.
443
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,319
I mean are you telling me
that the police lent on him
444
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,279
to make him tell porkies?
445
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,039
Very credible witness.
446
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,799
I'm sure the police were
delighted when they managed
447
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,320
to manipulate him into
making an identification.
448
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,879
His, uh, pa said she
could probably find
449
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,440
a window for us this afternoon.
450
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,080
Brian, come and
take a look at this.
451
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,639
It's from forensics.
452
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,839
Sorted out those fingerprints.
453
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,119
No, no, look, there's
something hidden in the lining
454
00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:09,040
of the suitcase.
455
00:19:09,041 --> 00:19:12,879
Oh, yeah, interesting,
do they know what it is?
456
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,679
They think it's a fragment
of a document of some kind,
457
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,719
they're going to
try and get at it,
458
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,360
but it's a bit of
a delicate job.
459
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,919
Thank you for your
cooperations, redwood,
460
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,839
bit of a tall order asking
you to recall events
461
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,639
of some 50 odd years ago.
462
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,719
No, 50 years ago is easy,
463
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,479
but when you're
knocking on a bit,
464
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,599
last week fades into the mist,
465
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,600
don't you find?
466
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,519
So you're still clear
about the circumstances
467
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,719
of finding the gun.
468
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,720
Oh, yes.
469
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,959
According to the case
papers you were on leave
470
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,519
from the army at the time.
471
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,959
Yes, second
lieutenant chambers, 19,
472
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,199
still thoroughly
wet behind the ears.
473
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,559
And you caught a number
19 bus from battersea bridge?
474
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,319
Yes, i-I didn't have to go far,
475
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,759
but, um, I was feeling
the cold after the tropics.
476
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,799
I went upstairs, I was
a smoker in those days,
477
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,319
and I was passed by a man
in a hurry in his way to get off.
478
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,679
And this was the man
that you later identified
479
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,640
as Richard Dunn?
480
00:20:09,641 --> 00:20:11,679
Yes, yes it was.
481
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,359
Yes, well more of him later.
482
00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,959
So you, so you took
a seat on the bus?
483
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,239
Yes.
484
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,599
And I thought well this
isn't very comfortable,
485
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,759
even by the standards
of London transport
486
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,959
that I was aware of.
487
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,559
There was something
down the back of the seat,
488
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,399
so I, I felt around and
encountered the familiar shape
489
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,200
of a webley service revolver.
490
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,719
Is this the weapon
491
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,479
that was used in evidence?
492
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,599
Yes, the quickly came
up the stairs at that point
493
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,559
rather pretty blonde actually.
494
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,639
I told her we needed
to contact the police.
495
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,479
Did you describe the
man you saw to the police?
496
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,359
Yes, but not in any great detail
497
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,199
because I had no
reason take notice of him.
498
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,079
But you subsequently
picked Richard Dunn
499
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,679
out in an identity parade.
500
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,239
Yes, the truth is,
501
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,159
that as I was being escorted
through the police station
502
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,359
before the identity parade,
503
00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,759
I caught a glimpse
of a man in handcuffs,
504
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,119
being led down a corridor
by the detective collinson.
505
00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,200
I thought it was just
a chance encounter,
506
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,559
but when Hannah contacted me,
507
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,159
I realised that had been
very cleverly staged managed.
508
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,919
And that man was Richard Dunn.
509
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,959
Yes, and when I saw
him in the identity parade
510
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,760
I suppose he must be the man.
511
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,400
Collinson was blatantly
breaking the rules, yet again.
512
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,079
Was the identification
challenged at the trial?
513
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,679
Not with any great vigour,
514
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,759
and I made up my mind that Dunn
515
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,599
was the man I seen
leaving the bus, I'm afraid,
516
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,999
and there was so much
more evidence against him.
517
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000
All worthless.
518
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,480
Have to admit it Hannah,
519
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,039
you've done a good
job for your grandfather.
520
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,320
Couldn't someone done
it better one at the time?
521
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:56,559
[Giggles] Look what I found.
522
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,919
Candy floss.
523
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,879
But it's a tub, it
used to be on a stick.
524
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,760
Yeah, well health and safety,
525
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:06,959
you know, my mum used
to bring us here all the time.
526
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,319
I only really
remember the fun fair,
527
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,159
but I thought the
park was much bigger.
528
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,239
No, it used to be much smaller
529
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,240
which is true.
530
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,039
And I'll tell you something
else, to be honest...
531
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,599
This stuff's disgusting.
532
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,999
Yeah, yeah.
533
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,640
I'll tell you what, why don't
we pretend we're grown up,
534
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,159
and go and have a drink.
535
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,160
Yeah.
536
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,759
So where exactly do we
stand with this inquiry Sandra?
537
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,279
Well we now know
that Fred tulley,
538
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,719
far from being a squeaky
clean pillar of society,
539
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399
was involved in a fiddle
with big white fibres.
540
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,319
Which means the
motive for killing him
541
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,639
needn't have been a
straightforward street robbery.
542
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,919
And the prime suspect
Richard Dunn was convicted
543
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,039
on the flimsiest of evidence.
544
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,479
In fact there is no evidence
connecting Dunn and tulley
545
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200
that stands up to
serious examination.
546
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,879
The police stitched him up.
547
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,679
Yeah, well as far as
policing is concerned
548
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,039
I'm delighted to say that
the past is another country.
549
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,679
They do things
differently there.
550
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,680
Lp hartley.
551
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,520
He wrote that.
552
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,920
Yeah, I know that Brian.
553
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,800
Oh, sorry.
554
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,239
Right, is there anything else?
555
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,879
Yes, we also know that
Douglas Murray was involved
556
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,959
in this scam with tulley
and he's been lying about it
557
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,599
for the last 50 years.
558
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,679
Of course, we don't
know that Murray's
559
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,679
telling us the truth even now,
560
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,919
maybe he thought he'd
been jipped out of the money,
561
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,240
and took it out on tulley.
562
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,400
Of course, that's just
speculation on my part.
563
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,960
What does everyone else think?
564
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,879
Well what I think is the
budgets aren't infinite,
565
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,720
perhaps we should spend hours
on more productive avenues.
566
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,519
Look, look, look, the Dunn
family have been living
567
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,799
with a wrongful
conviction for 50 years.
568
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,399
Don't you think they're
entitled to a complete answer?
569
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,279
Or maybe some things
are too deep in the past
570
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,759
to be satisfactorily
resolved, Gerry.
571
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,839
We're not here to
provide family therapy.
572
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,119
We are still waiting on
some forensic material, sir.
573
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,920
Yeah, well the best of
luck, but the metres running.
574
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,439
When I tell my
kids how I grew up,
575
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,439
you'd think I was talking
about another century.
576
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,760
Well you are, actually.
577
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,520
Yeah, [laughs], I
suppose technically, yeah.
578
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,520
But have you got a bain-Marie?
579
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,119
A what?
580
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,280
Well what a blender, then?
581
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,119
No.
582
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,159
You've got no
kit in this kitchen.
583
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,799
It's a wonder you
haven't starved to death.
584
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,360
It's designed for a working
woman, not a celebrity chef.
585
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,280
All right, well i'm gonna
have to improvise.
586
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,840
Now...
587
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,280
June.
588
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,279
You didn't think it was
appropriate to come to my place,
589
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,640
so we've come to your place,
and you're still wound up.
590
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000
I'm sorry
591
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,679
come on, come on,
592
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,200
sit down, have a
delicious glass of wine,
593
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,280
and relax.
594
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,759
We're just having a
nice meal and a chat,
595
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,519
I mean you're not selling
your soul to the devil [laughs].
596
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,560
That's not the way
Hannah would see it.
597
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:22,200
[Door slams]
598
00:25:22,201 --> 00:25:23,680
Hello darling, it's me.
599
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,120
Esther?
600
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,120
[Esther] I'm in here.
601
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,240
Ahem.
602
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,920
Red and white roses?
603
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,960
What?
604
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,320
Oh, Brian.
605
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,880
[Esther sighs]
606
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,799
Mm.
607
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,639
Yeah, that's,
that's really good.
608
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,559
And why are you so surprised?
609
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,479
Well, I do wonder.
610
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,079
With all that '50s nostalgia,
611
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,919
I thought it might be
brown windsor soup
612
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,039
followed by toad in the hole.
613
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,640
Now they're all limits,
the past wasn't that good.
614
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,680
No.
615
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,080
So,
616
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,360
how about the future?
617
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,399
Remind me Gerry,
618
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320
how many times have
you been divorced?
619
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,399
Three.
620
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,279
Yeah, but I didn't
have the maturity then.
621
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,240
No.
622
00:26:44,241 --> 00:26:46,999
So, um, what's changed?
623
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Oh everything.
624
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,679
My three marriages went sideways
625
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,599
'cause I was always firing
after glamorous glitzy blondes,
626
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,160
but with you it's different.
627
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Oh yeah?
628
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Oh definitely.
629
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,719
I mean you're
not my type at all.
630
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,719
That's terrific,
Gerry, thank you.
631
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,560
Oh, no, no, I didn't mean that.
632
00:27:04,561 --> 00:27:05,679
I didn't mean-
633
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,480
shh, shh.
634
00:27:06,481 --> 00:27:08,760
When you're in a
hole, stop digging.
635
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,800
[Classical music plays]
636
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,479
Oh, Esther, come on, of
course, I haven't forgotten
637
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,039
your father's funeral.
638
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,479
It's just the composition
639
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,120
of the floral tribute
that slipped me mind.
640
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,760
Esther.
641
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,560
[Jack] Morning.
642
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,400
[Gerry] Morning all.
643
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,240
[Sandra] Morning.
644
00:27:42,241 --> 00:27:43,599
[Brian] This is a turn up.
645
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,400
What is?
646
00:27:44,401 --> 00:27:47,199
Usable prints have been
retrieved from the suitcase.
647
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,000
Yeah?
648
00:27:48,001 --> 00:27:49,519
And we've got a much for them.
649
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,559
Richard Dunn.
650
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,199
So there was a connection
between him and tulley?
651
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,160
Yeah,
652
00:27:54,161 --> 00:27:56,479
and this puts Dunn
right back in the frame.
653
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,919
Oh shit.
654
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Who's gonna tell the family?
655
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,879
Well I suppose I'd better.
656
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,639
Mr. Empathy himself.
657
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,640
Shut up Brian
658
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,239
What this is bullshit?
659
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,160
[Gerry] Oh, Hannah, please.
660
00:28:15,161 --> 00:28:17,199
I knew we should never
have cooperated with you
661
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,839
it's a coverup, the
establishment just can't admit
662
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,879
it hanged in innocent man.
663
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,239
I'm sorry, but the
evidence is very clear.
664
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,919
You people have
faked evidence before
665
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,760
and you're faking it again now.
666
00:28:24,761 --> 00:28:26,319
I think you better calm down.
667
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,679
I am taking this matter directly
668
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,839
to the independent police
complaints commission.
669
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,119
We are only trying
to get at the truth.
670
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,399
We have no more to say to you,
671
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,040
would you please leave my
mother's house immediately?
672
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,520
June.
673
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,400
You'd better go.
674
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720
[Sombre music]
675
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,679
You've told a lot of lies
over the years Douglas,
676
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,159
we don't want any more.
677
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,799
You, Fred tulley, Richard Dunn,
678
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,519
you were all in this money
scam together, weren't you?
679
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,839
I never met Richard,
Fred dealt with him.
680
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,999
What sort of dealings
are we talking about?
681
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,839
Well, Richard was villain,
682
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,079
he had contacts who could
put the money about, launder it,
683
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,679
take a cut, give us back
loaded nomination notes,
684
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,359
we could use without
showing out too much.
685
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,399
How did Fred and Richard meet?
686
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,079
Oh well, Fred was
having a drink in a pub,
687
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,159
and Richard was knocking
out stuff falling off a lorry,
688
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,639
they got talking, felt they
could do a bit of business.
689
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,959
How do they get
on with each other?
690
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,839
Well, I mean what Fred
was up to was white collar,
691
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,280
more like fiddling really.
692
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,719
Richard was more
dangerous, you know,
693
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,479
he was, uh, he
could use violence.
694
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,719
Are you saying he used
or threatened violence
695
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,999
against Fred tulley?
696
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,159
Well somebody did, didn't they?
697
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,839
And you kept quiet
about all of this,
698
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,399
during the original
investigation, and the trial.
699
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,240
It suited me,
700
00:29:59,241 --> 00:30:01,839
if it looked like a street
robbery gone wrong.
701
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,359
Maybe it suited you that
Richard Dunn went down for it?
702
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,199
It seemed to me he did it.
703
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,639
I certainly didn't.
704
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,199
You think otherwise,
you prove it.
705
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,319
[Phone rings]
706
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,320
Excuse me.
707
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Jack, hi.
708
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,359
Okay, thanks
we'll be right there.
709
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,800
We're not finished with you.
710
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,320
[Tense music]
711
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Jack.
712
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,319
This is the document
that was found in the lining
713
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,320
of the suitcase.
714
00:30:35,321 --> 00:30:36,759
You can hardly read it,
715
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,279
it's all singed
around the edges,
716
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,559
but there's some
reference to Kenya,
717
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,519
and the massacre of the kikuyu,
718
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,879
but it's all torn at the bottom,
719
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880
and there's a date,
6th of the 12th '53.
720
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,999
No, no, hang on, that
doesn't make sense,
721
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,040
December 1953 would have
been after tulley was killed.
722
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,399
No, no, no.
723
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,640
Not December,
June, the 12th of June.
724
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,360
I think this is American.
725
00:31:04,361 --> 00:31:06,199
You know, the way
they have the dates
726
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,839
the other way around from us.
727
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,120
As in 9/11.
728
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,559
This is from the
American embassy.
729
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,040
How can you know that?
730
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,919
Brian, how on earth
could a document
731
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,999
from the American embassy
732
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,399
have found its way into the
possession of Fred tulley?
733
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,919
From the power station.
734
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,519
What, battersea power station?
735
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,839
They didn't just burn
bank notes there.
736
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,840
The American embassy
737
00:31:26,841 --> 00:31:30,279
used to bring their confidential
documents for incineration,
738
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,120
it's all in here.
739
00:31:31,121 --> 00:31:33,319
And this is the first time
you thought to mention it.
740
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,879
It's a bit obsessional going on
741
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,800
about power station
history, isn't it?
742
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,040
I didn't want to bore people.
743
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,359
I'm trying to sensitise
myself to negative feedback.
744
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,360
Sandra!
745
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Something else you
haven't told us about dougy.
746
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,639
Ah, yeah, the embassy,
747
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,999
the bank of england, we're just
748
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,639
gentleman amateurs
by comparison.
749
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,399
It was a real circus
when the yanks came,
750
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,159
convoy of jeeps,
armed military police.
751
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,999
And this happened
how frequently?
752
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,519
It was part of the routine.
753
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,520
And like the bank notes,
754
00:32:27,521 --> 00:32:30,199
some of these documents
clearly survived the furnace.
755
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,639
Well, now and again.
756
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,319
I couldn't see that
were worth anything,
757
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,959
but when I told Freddy
he said you never know,
758
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,119
they take all that trouble
to get rid of this stuff,
759
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,959
might be worth
something to somebody.
760
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,679
So you passed the
documents to Fred tulley.
761
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,319
What did he do with them?
762
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,440
Search me, I never
heard any more about it,
763
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,039
didn't interest
me, to be honest,
764
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,960
all I wanted was
the bread and honey.
765
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,879
[Brian] 1953, the
British army is fighting
766
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,680
the mau mau rebellion, in Kenya.
767
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,039
Yeah but that was
all about the natives
768
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,119
getting restless and killing
white settlers, wasn't it?
769
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,319
Well the mau mau certainly
had blood on their hands.
770
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,679
By the time the state
of emergency ended,
771
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,759
they'd killed around a
hundred white people,
772
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,519
but also 2000 africans
suspected of collaboration
773
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,679
with the colonial authorities.
774
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,079
I'm sorry, but what's this
got to do with our case?
775
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,079
Well, hang on Gerry
I'm getting there.
776
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,399
What we didn't hear
about at the time
777
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,239
was the casualties
on the other side,
778
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,399
at least 11000 africans
died at the hands
779
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,559
of the colonial authorities,
either killed in battle,
780
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,519
or tried, and executed,
781
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,999
or in some cases massacred.
782
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,399
Document's been
enhanced listen to this.
783
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,559
"CIA head of station Nairobi,
784
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,519
reports reliable
account of killing
785
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,439
of 15 unarmed kikuyu civilians,
786
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,119
in Kenya central
highlands, by Somali troops,
787
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,600
under command
of British officer..."
788
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,240
And the rest has been torn off.
789
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,879
Our Edward chambers
was on leave from the army
790
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,639
when he found the gun
and ID'd Richard Dunn.
791
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,880
So if chambers
had served in Kenya,
792
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,119
he could be the officer that
this document is referring to.
793
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,400
And tulley could have
found the document,
794
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,520
and blackmailed chambers.
795
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,399
Did any of you gentlemen
actually do national service?
796
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,959
When I was already down
for the police, I was exempt.
797
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,119
God no, far too young.
798
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,399
Yeah me too.
799
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,359
You must understand that
they did rather drop one in it.
800
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,959
I went from school
to national service,
801
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,519
and was shipped out to Kenya
to hold down a fraying corner
802
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,360
of the empire.
803
00:34:38,361 --> 00:34:39,759
A mau mau emergency?
804
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,039
The shorthand term for
a very complex situation.
805
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,319
Nationalism, tribalism.
806
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,160
Most of the killing
807
00:34:46,161 --> 00:34:48,119
was done by the
africans themselves
808
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,799
during the time of the emergency
809
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,319
there were instances of
civilians being killed by troops,
810
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,519
under British command
811
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,559
now, certainly that is true.
812
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,359
In fact one British officer
was prosecuted for murder
813
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,119
were you ever involved
in such an incident?
814
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,279
Certainly not.
815
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,879
You come from a very
wealthy family, sir. Edward.
816
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,119
Well, it depends what
you're used to really.
817
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,999
But I, I can see the point.
818
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,679
Back in 1953 was any
attempt made to blackmail you,
819
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,799
over allegations
that you ordered
820
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,679
a massacre of African
civilians in Kenya?
821
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040
What on earth would
lead you to suggest that?
822
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,919
This was found in the
possession of Frederick tulley
823
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,240
at the time of his death.
824
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,119
I don't see how this implicates
me in any conceivable way.
825
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,519
Since you were instrumental
826
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,799
in getting Richard Dunn
hanged for killing tulley,
827
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,079
I think it's a
remarkable coincidence.
828
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Coincidence,
829
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,040
not very remarkable.
830
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,999
How many people go on
about conserving energy,
831
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,159
but this place was
pumping its exhaust steam
832
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,399
under the thames
to provide hot water
833
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040
and heating for the
council estate in pimlico.
834
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,960
Magnificent.
835
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,919
Of course, the
outside appearance
836
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,079
was down to sir
giles Gilbert Scott,
837
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600
architect of
liverpool cathedral,
838
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,040
and what he's given us here
is a quasi religious building.
839
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:13,880
A temple of power.
840
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,039
I thought we'd established,
841
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,919
you are interested in
power station history?
842
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,920
When it's relevant
to the case, Brian.
843
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,639
Here's the bus.
844
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,640
Over here!
845
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,199
God, it takes you
back, doesn't it?
846
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,039
You know, it was on the top
deck of one of these in 1961
847
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,399
I had my first adult experience.
848
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,199
I don't think I wanna
know about that.
849
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,999
I smoked a woodbine.
850
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Look, can we get on
with the reconstruction?
851
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,319
Yes.
852
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,399
So, I am Edward chambers,
853
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,119
19 years old, public school
boy, officer and gentleman.
854
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,319
We'll use our imaginations.
855
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,720
You're the clippy.
856
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,959
[Bell rings]
857
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,559
Alright then, who are we?
858
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,599
Well that what a couple of
passengers on the top deck,
859
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,199
down the front end,
860
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,959
they weren't in a
position to see anything
861
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,439
and weren't called as witnesses.
862
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,400
You can be them.
863
00:37:12,401 --> 00:37:13,799
Oh, thanks.
864
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,919
Come on, age before beauty.
865
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,120
Pearl before swine.
866
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,159
[Brian] Hurry up.
867
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,600
Alright, move down the bus.
868
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,759
Now I, lieutenant chambers,
869
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,880
have secreted about my
person, the murder weapon,
870
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,319
but far from
discovering the gun,
871
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,199
I am in fact
attempting to hide it.
872
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,519
[Gerry and Jack laughing]
873
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,400
Any fares, please.
874
00:37:39,401 --> 00:37:41,759
For the webley 38,
it's a large weapon,
875
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,600
difficult to wholly conceal.
876
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,039
Now, you're the bus conductress,
877
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,199
what are you concentrating on
878
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,680
when you get to the top deck?
879
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,799
New faces, people
who haven't paid yet.
880
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,079
So you're looking at me,
881
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,800
so now I have to make
a split second decision.
882
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,119
"Uh, miss, I say..."
883
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,960
"What, guv?"
884
00:38:02,961 --> 00:38:05,199
"I think we're gonna
have to call the police."
885
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,959
"Cor, stone the crows."
886
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,759
"Did you notice that
man who just got off
887
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,039
was in rather a panic?"
888
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,079
Now, I wouldn't be bothered
with someone getting off,
889
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,079
I'd only be interested in
the people who hadn't paid.
890
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,079
[Jack] So it was chambers.
891
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,839
Yeah, ds collinson wanted
Dunn to go down for it whatever,
892
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,479
so he let chambers see him
893
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,319
on the way to the
identity parade.
894
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,319
And chambers is home and dry.
895
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,879
Identifies Dunn, and
collinson does the rest.
896
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,519
Well we can tell
each other the story
897
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,559
till the cows come home,
898
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,999
are we actually going to
be able to make it stand up?
899
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:34,840
No.
900
00:38:34,841 --> 00:38:36,639
Not with what we got so far.
901
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,999
Douglas Murray's
behind all this,
902
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,799
he's a conniving little sod.
903
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,879
Let's have another go at him.
904
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,360
Yeah. Mob handed.
905
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,560
[Children's toy bleeps]
906
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,600
[Dramatic music]
907
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,840
[Door creaks]
908
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,479
Back-up's on the way.
909
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,280
We'd better call an ambulance
just to make sure but...
910
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Okay, cheers.
911
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,120
Bye.
912
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,199
Preliminary post-mortem shows,
913
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,839
that Murray died
from head injuries
914
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,359
resulting from blunt trauma,
915
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,639
and there's also signs that a TV
916
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,959
and a video recorder
went missing.
917
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,800
Or maybe it was a blind,
918
00:39:59,801 --> 00:40:01,600
just to make it
look like a burglary.
919
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,279
Now we put chambers in
the frame for killing tulley,
920
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,839
because we thought he could
have been a blackmail victim
921
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,919
back in '53.
922
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,759
Are you saying Murray was
blackmailing him as well?
923
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,559
Well at least it has the
virtue of consistency.
924
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,519
No, no, hang on a
minute, Murray's been living
925
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,479
in a low rent flat
for the last 50 years,
926
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,359
if he had anything on
chambers worth money,
927
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,119
what's kept him so long?
928
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,719
I can't answer that.
929
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,879
Are you telling me that,
sir. Edwards chambers
930
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,159
jumped in his roller,
swanned off down to battersea,
931
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,800
and battered a
retired stoker to death?
932
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Do me a favour.
933
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,159
Takes you back, done it?
934
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,200
At least we're not
on offer these days.
935
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,080
[Car brakes]
936
00:41:02,081 --> 00:41:03,160
Here we go.
937
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,519
[Police officers
talking indistinctly]
938
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,879
[Battering ram banging]
939
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,279
Do you miss it, the
old adrenaline rush
940
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,559
when you're on a spin?
941
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,400
No.
942
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,400
I do.
943
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,839
It was an interesting
opportunity
944
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,040
to look over different
people's houses.
945
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,079
Aye, got your message.
946
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,080
What's going on?
947
00:41:31,081 --> 00:41:32,719
Forensic found a DNA match
948
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,759
at the scene of Murray's murder.
949
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,039
Guy who lives in
the house, Ferris,
950
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,800
has got form for violence.
951
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,000
[Sombre music]
952
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,359
That's him!
953
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,559
Didn't they make a
wrong number phone call
954
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,959
to make sure he was in?
955
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,000
What do they teach
the kids these days?
956
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,520
[Car brakes screeching]
957
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,079
Drive Jack.
958
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,759
Good job's a man
on beta blockers.
959
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
[Dramatic music]
960
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,320
[Police siren wails]
961
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,399
Armed police, stand still.
962
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,159
All right, all right, all right.
963
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,119
Jason Ferris.
964
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,919
It's quite a file
you've got here Jason,
965
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,879
kept yourself very busy.
966
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,119
[Brian] Ooh, a few
years in the army.
967
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,999
Including six months
in the glass house.
968
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,200
Then civvy street,
969
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,159
civilian crimes,
civilian prison.
970
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,799
And then you went
abroad for awhile.
971
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,439
Bit of a gap year, was it?
972
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,280
Travel the world,
973
00:43:13,281 --> 00:43:15,319
meet new people, kill them?
974
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,119
You've got it all
written down there.
975
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,159
Yes, but we want to
hear about it from you.
976
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,879
I spent a few years
doing contract work
977
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,199
for security firms.
978
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,559
Where exactly?
979
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,879
Africa mostly.
980
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,159
Sierra Leone, Liberia,
981
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,719
the Democratic
republic of Congo.
982
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,439
So what used to be
called a mercenary?
983
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,559
Call it what you like.
984
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,160
It says here that you specialise
in close protection work,
985
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,679
bodyguard for vips.
986
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Yeah, I've done a bit of that.
987
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,959
You must have met some
very interesting people.
988
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,280
That's confidential.
989
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,159
Two years ago your
firm provided security
990
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,919
for transnational
minerals in the Congo.
991
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,399
The chairman of the
transnational board,
992
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,359
sir. Edward chambers,
made a high profile visit,
993
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,439
did you meet him?
994
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,320
It's possible.
995
00:43:58,321 --> 00:43:59,719
For the benefit of the tape,
996
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:02,600
I'm now showing Jason
Ferris a newspaper cutting.
997
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,839
That's sir. Edward, on
that visit with a bodyguard
998
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,399
at his shoulder.
999
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,839
It's you, isn't it?
1000
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,840
I won't argue.
1001
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,120
Now let's get serious,
1002
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,319
did you burgle Douglas
Murray's flat at the instigation
1003
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,839
of sir. Edward chambers?
1004
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,840
No.
1005
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,280
Whatever he's paying,
1006
00:44:23,281 --> 00:44:25,800
surely it's not worth
all those years inside.
1007
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,079
No comment.
1008
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,999
Every effort will
be made to trace
1009
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,959
and seize anything
you've earned illegally.
1010
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,519
I don't think I have anything
more to say to you people.
1011
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,719
[Jail cell door slams]
1012
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:43,880
I get offered bodyguards
in many of the places I visit.
1013
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,319
None of them tend to
become personal friends
1014
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,759
have you had any
dealings with Jason Ferris
1015
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,680
since that time?
1016
00:44:53,681 --> 00:44:55,759
Not to my recollection.
1017
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,839
Has Douglas Murray made a
fresh attempt to blackmail you?
1018
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,359
No action of mine could
have laid me open to blackmail,
1019
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,639
therefore there could
be no attempt in 1953,
1020
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,279
and therefore there'll
be no fresh attempt.
1021
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,599
It's a matter of record
1022
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,799
that kikuyu tribesmen were
massacred by British troops
1023
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,800
in the emergency.
1024
00:45:13,801 --> 00:45:16,279
And kikuyu were
massacred by kikuyu,
1025
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,919
and so on and so forth.
1026
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,440
People weren't
civilians or combatants,
1027
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,159
they were farm workers by day
1028
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,879
and mau mau guerillas by night.
1029
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,679
Are you saying there was a
justification for what went on?
1030
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,919
I'm not a moral philosopher,
1031
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,759
but what I can tell you is
our experiences in Kenya
1032
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,599
produced the tactics
for counter insurgency,
1033
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,479
and are still being applied.
1034
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,679
Dirty tricks for
dirty little conflicts,
1035
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,199
with no honour or glory.
1036
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,599
We're not here to discuss that,
1037
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,279
we're here to talk
about your responsibility
1038
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,039
for two murders.
1039
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,839
You killed tulley yourself,
1040
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,359
then you contracted Ferris
to kill Douglas Murray.
1041
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,240
And that's the truth,
1042
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,560
isn't it sir. Edward?
1043
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,599
Well you've made a
quite fascinating trawl
1044
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,479
into a long lost world,
and I have nothing
1045
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,999
but praise for the team's
diligence and persistence,
1046
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,999
but I've spoken to the
cps at the highest level
1047
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,839
and there's no prospect
of bringing charges against
1048
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,680
sir. Edward chambers.
1049
00:46:13,681 --> 00:46:15,119
You've got nothing
that'll stand up in court.
1050
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,639
We are still investigating.
1051
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,559
Nor are you likely to
find anything substantial
1052
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,679
at this distance in time.
1053
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,279
A man was hanged
on corrupt evidence.
1054
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Exactly.
1055
00:46:24,121 --> 00:46:26,159
The investigation and
trial of Richard Dunn
1056
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,639
is a totally separate issue.
1057
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,839
The papers will be
handed to the home office
1058
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,919
and there's every possibility
1059
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,879
that the verdict
will be overturned.
1060
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,199
The family may well be in line
1061
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,879
to make a claim
for compensation.
1062
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,559
But that's not what they
want, they want justice,
1063
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,079
and justice is nailing the
bugger who really did it.
1064
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,359
All right, Gerry, that's enough.
1065
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,679
Win some, lose some,
1066
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,199
the further pursuit
of this inquiry
1067
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,959
is not in the public
interest, end of story.
1068
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,879
[Gerry scoffs]
1069
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,480
[Sombre music]
1070
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,240
[June] Hi.
1071
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,599
Hi, I'm so glad
you got in touch.
1072
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,759
I just wanted a
chance to tell you-
1073
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,799
don't, Gerry, it wouldn't
have worked out.
1074
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,559
I've done emotional
upheaval, I want a quiet life,
1075
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,799
and you are not
the man for that.
1076
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,359
No, but I'm getting quieter
all the time, I promise.
1077
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,919
Listen in a couple of
years you're gonna have
1078
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,279
to keep checking my pulse.
1079
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,840
It's not a runner
Gerry, you know that.
1080
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,600
So, why all the secrecy,
the hush-hush meeting,
1081
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,159
I was hoping that
you were going to say-
1082
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Hannah sent me, and she
wants it keep strictly unofficial.
1083
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,799
Well, if she's got
something for us.
1084
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,680
It's a bit difficult, because
officially we're off the case.
1085
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,680
Sir. Edward's a
very influential man.
1086
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,799
Can't comment on that.
1087
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,800
All right.
1088
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,159
What does Hannah want me to do?
1089
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,679
She doesn't want
you to do anything.
1090
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,200
She wants something from you.
1091
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,639
Have you seen this?
1092
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,040
Yeah it's all over
the net as well.
1093
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,319
Hannah Parker's website.
1094
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,639
She had a letter
from Douglas Murray
1095
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,479
only to be opened in
the event of his death.
1096
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,679
Murray had the other half
of the document all the time.
1097
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,839
Which stated that
the Somali troops
1098
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,239
were under the command of
lieutenant Edward chambers.
1099
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,239
Fred tulley had
left it with Murray,
1100
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,199
but Murray never
understood the meaning of it.
1101
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,679
Until we showed him the
half we found in the suitcase,
1102
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,759
and that was when he tried
to put the black on sir. Edward.
1103
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,319
All the African countries that
chambers does business with
1104
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,879
are up in arms and
he's had to resign
1105
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,559
as chairman of
ec mining limited.
1106
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,079
So there is a bit of
justice left in the world.
1107
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,119
Nevermind about justice,
1108
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,119
the point is how the
hell did Hannah Parker
1109
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,319
get hold of our half
of the document, eh?
1110
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,959
Nothing to do with me sir,
I'm can assure you of that.
1111
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,279
Strickland.
1112
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,719
[Playful music]
1113
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:53,920
Yes, thanks.
1114
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,360
Hannah Parker is
on the BBC news.
1115
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,639
I'm not prepared to
reveal my sources,
1116
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,799
but I will say that even in
1117
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,279
the most reactionary, corrupt
and incompetent institutions,
1118
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,799
that there are one
or two individuals
1119
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,199
who still know the
meaning of integrity.
1120
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,680
[Gerry sighs]
1121
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,679
♪ It's all right, it's okay ♪
1122
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,519
♪ doesn't really matter
if you're old and grey ♪
1123
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,199
♪ it's all right, I
say it's okay ♪
1124
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,319
♪ listen to what I say ♪
1125
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,639
♪ it's all right, doing fine ♪
1126
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,439
♪ doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine ♪
1127
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,159
♪ it's all right, I
say it's okay ♪
1128
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,639
♪ we're getting to
the end of the day ♪
1129
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,839
♪ high tech, low
tech, take your pick ♪
1130
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,959
♪ 'cause you can't teach an
old dog a brand new trick ♪
1131
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,960
♪ I don't care what
anybody says ♪
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