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[dramatic operatic intro]
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[singing opera:
in foreign language]
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Well, music was
part of my childhood,
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really
from my earliest memory.
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So I've always
been interested in
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the scientific aspects
of music.
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Being in the fMRI
for an experiment
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was incredibly fascinating.
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It was long.
I mean, I didn't. .
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I don't think I really quite
clocked that I was signing up
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for spending two hours
in the machine.
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It was extraordinary
because, in my case,
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this experiment
had me singing,
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imagining
singing and speaking.
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And the most powerful of the
three was imagining singing,
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which surprised the scientists
who were looking at the results
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but, in fact,
ultimately they said,
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well, it was because
you're a singer.
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So singing a second nature
for me, which is true.
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And imagining singing
took a little more effort.
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It was interesting to see how
this oxygen in the brain,
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how that shows on the results
with the fMRI,
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because you can really see
where the activity is.
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I've created a network now
of scientists
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really everywhere
that I performed.
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I also loved the idea
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of bringing a performing arts
venue together
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or entity
together with researchers
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in the same community
and they begin to collaborate.
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And so I'm a bit of a catalyst
for that work
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and certainly an advocate,
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which, for me,
is an incredible gift.
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For years, scientists have
explored neuroesthetics,
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the link between the arts
and the brain.
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Today, neuroscientists
and architects
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are working together
to explore a new link:
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understanding how the built
environment affects the brain,
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and how this knowledge
can help to build
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a more beautiful world.
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[operatic singing
slowly fades]
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[jaunty orchestral music]
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[John] When
you're designing something,
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you're inevitably thinking
how you're using it.
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You're thinking what's it like
to have a party here?
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What's it like just sitting
here and enjoying a book.
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[fire crackling]
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You're designing it for
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all these various
different occasions,
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what it's like in summer
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when you can fling
all the doors open.
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And what's it's like in winter
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where everything is shut in
with a fire roaring.
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As a human being,
you know,
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you are such able to connect
to architecture.
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So that architecture
in a way becomes part of you,
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like it's allowing you to
be what you need to be there.
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And it's very strange,
is such powerful.
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[Martha]
In my 20s,
I went to live in Paris
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and I felt right at home there
right away.
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Why did I feel more at home
in Paris and I'm not French?
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What's going on?
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We are beings that are always
looking for safe space
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and the visceral qualities
of touch and smell and sight,
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the audio components.
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I think architecture
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is something in-between
natural and human beings.
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Natural is unlimited
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and is basically something
that we don't fully grasp.
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Architecture is able to be
just something in the middle
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on that limited unnatural,
and limited human beings.
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And it is able in a way
to bridge the gap.
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[John] Architecture is
a sort of language
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which allows us to be
able to design buildings
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and, through that,
design cities.
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They are places in which
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we all can live together
amicably, happily.
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Each society
has its own language.
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I mean, you go to Middle East,
you go to China,
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you go to India
and you can see there's
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a very specific language
of architecture
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which exists alongside
the spoken language.
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And he's all part
of the culture
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and the traditions of that
particular set of people.
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[Anjan] Built environment is
any environment we're in,
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which has been manufactured
by people.
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For example, being in
a beautiful place like
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the Grand Canyon would
not be a built environment.
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That was still
have an impact on you, but
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a built environment
would be like this room.
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It could be a church,
it could be a temple,
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it could be a hospital,
it could be a school,
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it could be a museum.
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Any environment that has
built. . been built by humans.
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We're surrounded
by architecture.
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And it's impactful.
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Just think of it this way.
There are probably buildings
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that you go out of your way
to avoid.
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Likewise,
there are probably buildings
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that you go out of your way
to see.
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[Martha]
Scientists,
political researchers,
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advertising agencies,
they've all studied the brain.
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Whether determining which
color pops on a billboard.
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to which buzzwords trigger
a positive response
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from future voters,
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the potential to integrate
neuroscience into the arts
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has been studied
for over a decade.
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Architecture's really
lagging behind a little bit
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in terms of the research
that's been going on
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in the retail world
in utilization of patterns
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that generate empathic
transference of emotions.
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And it's
really quite important.
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It's about deciding, am I
going to approach something
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or will I avoid it?
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I believe the brain is the most
interesting organ in the body.
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Neuroscience is the study
of the brain,
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its biology, its properties,
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what happens to it
in health and disease.
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And it occurs at many levels
of organization,
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from the properties
of individual cells
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and structures within the cells
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to large-scale systems
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that give rise to things
like language and emotion
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and perception and aesthetics.
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I got into neuroscience
and architecture
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around 2005
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when this was just
an emerging field of interest.
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And that started with
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the Academy of Neuroscience
For Architecture.
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And we were pioneering
a new discipline here.
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We thought, gosh,
if we can get neuroscientists
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thinking about the spaces
they are working in
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and spending most
of their time in,
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then maybe we can
kind of pull something
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out of that kind of what's
familiar to them.
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You know, the thing is that
I'm an architect,
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I'm not a neuroscientist.
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And I've realized that,
uh, architecture
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needed to be, uh,
complemented by something else.
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[Anjan] It's estimated that
in most developed countries,
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people spend 90% of their time
within the built environment.
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And so it has a huge impact
on how we operate,
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how we feel,
where we spend time.
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And so in the context
of thinking of the nature
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of aesthetic experiences as
influenced by our environment,
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architecture becomes
an important piece of that.
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We are seeing
a fortunate confluence
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of, uh, several independent
currents that have been, um,
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running along independently
and isolated from each other
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and they're coming. .
suddenly coming together.
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So neuroscience becomes
this beautiful venue to say,
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wow,
here's this emerging field
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that is offering us ways
to better quantify
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some of the qualitative aspects
of the built environment
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that we've believed
for so long
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that maybe we could actually
start to define.
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[Meredith] And our brain is
a pattern-making machine.
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It likes to make sense
of things.
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[man] When the sun comes up and
you feel the warmth of the sun
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and the flowers open up,
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that sequence
is known as a pattern.
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[Meredith] We know
what beauty is not.
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we know that when there's
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conflicting sensory
information coming in
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and that might happen
within one sense like vision,
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um, where you have sort of one
pattern
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being expressed
in a different one
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and the brain struggles to make
sense of what's going on there.
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And that creates confusion,
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that creates stress
for the brain.
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It has to work harder to
figure out what's going on.
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Um, a nice analogy is-
is when we think of- of music.
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If you have one instrument
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playing in a pattern
that's musical
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that's pleasing,
we like that.
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When you have
two instruments playing
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and there are
different patterns,
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there are different music,
then the brain is conflicted.
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It's trying to decipher
both of them.
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When you have
two instruments playing
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and they're not patterned,
you have noise.
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That's really stressful.
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We do have to recognize
that neuroscience
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is opening the door for us
to better try and understand
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why things in the past
may be resonating today
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with the things we did last
week
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in a building that just opened.
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Why might it be working
and why is it not working?
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Are there triggers
that can be read
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through reactions of the body
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that could help us
make better decisions,
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not in such absolute terms,
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but kind of hinting
in that direction?
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[Martha]
Humans have sought shelter
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for thousands of years.
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Early structures continue to
challenge archaeologists,
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ranging from prehistoric
Stonehenge
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to cliff dwellings
discovered across the globe.
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Fast-forward a few thousand
years to temples, shrines,
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and pyramids constructed
from man-made materials
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such as blocks
made of sunbaked mud.
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The architecture of
the ancient Greeks and Romans
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is still visible today.
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Symmetry and mathematical
proportions were considered
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while constructing
classical architecture.
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Brick, dome grooves
and mosaics
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defined the transformational
Byzantine era.
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Architecture evolved more
swiftly as time progressed,
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with noticeable style
differences
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defining the Romanesque,
Gothic, Renaissance,
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and Baroque periods.
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Rococo's elegance made way
for orderly neoclassicism.
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The 20th century saw
an evolution of its own.
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The asymmetrical shapes
of Art Nouveau,
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the elaborate ornamentation
of Beaux Arts,
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vertical lines
soaring to great heights,
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identified as
neo-gothic architecture,
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the sleek lines
and Jazz Age ornamentation
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defining the Art Deco era,
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but everything seemed
to change after World War 1
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as the focus shifted to new
and emerging technology
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and modernism became en vogue.
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[John] In the early 20th
century, modern architecture,
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as we call it today,
was invented, I think,
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for the best reasons.
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People felt that they had
all this industrial technology
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and they felt, well,
why couldn't this be used
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to actually deal with
a lot of the ills.
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You know, there was
such shortage of housing,
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quality,
that sort of thing.
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Why can't we mobilize
that industrial might
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then we use it
to solve humanity's problems?
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[Tiziana] The idea of modernity
comes also from the idea to,
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not just build,
uh, modern buildings,
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but shape the life
of the modern man.
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[woman] We needed to rebuild
after the war very quickly.
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It was cheaper ways to build.
We wanted to be mechanical.
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We were entranced
with the machines.
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The amount of building that
occurred in the 20th century
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could never have happened,
not in a short period of time
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if it wasn't for that,
but, of course, in doing that,
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we lost a lot because
all those techniques
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that'd been developed
for centuries,
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all just got swept away
and forgotten.
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So the result was that
things were being built,
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which in retrospect now
have ended up being
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quite unsympathetic
to human existence.
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[Tiziana] And, of course,
that idea to bring
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the idea of modernity
to everybody
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made sense in a way to create
something
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that works for everybody
universally,
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but then later in the history,
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it was easy to understand
that that cannot happen.
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The Bauhaus School in Germany
was considered at the time
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and, still, today to be
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one of the most
influential schools of design
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in the history
of the world.
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They revolutionized the way
that architects
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and planners and designers
approach
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the task of shaping the built
environment we live in.
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Modernism was about saying,
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"There's nothing here
of value.
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Let's start
with a tabula rasa. "
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In education,
that meant students come in
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and they would say to them,
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"I don't care
what you learnt
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from your parents
or your grandparents
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or what religious fash-
faith you grew up in,
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or what your intuition
may be telling you
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because that has no value. "
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You should empty yourselves
out of all of that
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so that we can fill you up
with the right stuff.
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That makes no sense
because if everyone was
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emptied out and filled up with
the same right stuff,
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they couldn't innovate.
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[Justin] A hundred years
after the Bauhaus,
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we are now at a pivotal moment
in understanding the science
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in a much more profound way
and starting really a new era
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in terms of how
do we use information
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about the human experience
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to shape the places
that we spend time.
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[Martha]
As architects embrace
minimalism and function,
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the term beauty
all but disappeared
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from conversation.
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Beauty is a word that. .
or a term that, uh,
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many people don't like to use
because it's so subjective,
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but, at the same time,
I think
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beauty is a word that
invites us to participate
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and to- to consider,
you know,
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how is this potentially
valuable to me?
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You could argue
literally forever, uh,
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about an ind-
an individual person's
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understanding
of aesthetic beauty,
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but I think
in the built environment,
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you have to take it
a bit more broadly
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and profoundly than that.
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[Melissa]
When I walk into a place
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and I immediately
feel calm and serene
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and I'm interested
in staying there,
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I think it's beautiful.
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[Duo] Beauty is not dependent
on the human things,
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but anything that
is described as "beauty"
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is described through
lens of being a human.
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Beauty really is about the
reason why we're alive.
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[Tiziana] Beauty is being
connected, for example,
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to the idea of harmony and
perfection of a building,
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but at the same time,
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some other theories
have told that, uh,
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beauty is connected to the
functionality of the building.
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If we think about
the old saying,
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"beauty is in
the eye of the beholder",
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that's not exactly true.
It's not in the eye.
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It's in the brain.
Our experience of the world
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is- is multi-sensory.
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That experience of our senses
coming together
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and integrating
happens in the brain.
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Beauty is in the brain
of the beholder
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and our brains are more similar
than they are different.
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The question always is
beauty of what?
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And what the research
suggests is that
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if we're talking
about beauty of faces,
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people are really
quite consistent.
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People are consistent
across cultures.
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It turns out that infants will
look at faces that adults
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regard as beautiful for longer
than faces not as beautiful.
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This seems to be
a core biologic response
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to attractiveness in faces.
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At the other end
of the spectrum is artwork
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and people
are all over the place.
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If you look at landscapes,
people are pretty consistent,
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not as consistent as faces.
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And then if you look at
architectural interiors
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or exteriors,
they kind of fall
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in between artwork
and landscapes.
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And so one way of thinking
about the built environment is
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that it's a kind of
manufactured landscape.
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Right? So it kind
of falls in between.
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And the broad idea is that
what we might refer to
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as natural kinds, right?
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So, faces
and natural environments,
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those are the things that
our brains have really evolved
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to fit with and so there's
greater consistency.
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[Justin] Every second,
11 million bits of information
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come into our human mind
through our five senses.
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First of all,
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10 million of that
is coming in through our eyes.
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So, of course, our other
senses are important,
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but humans, we're primarily
a visual creature.
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Of the 11 million bits
per second,
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only 50 of those bits
are we conscious of.
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So we are largely walking
through our day,
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walking through our night
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experiencing
the world unconsciously.
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I hate to break it to you,
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we evolved
without buildings.
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And the brains and bodies
we have
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arrived in a world
expecting not to see buildings.
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We're really about
living in the wild.
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[Nikos] Humans create what
our neural mechanism
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is hardwired to create.
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And we create
because we have evolved
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to recognize patterns
in nature for our survival.
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[Donald] Mankind evolved in
the Savannah of Eastern Africa
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over millions and millions
of years.
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At that point, our brain
structure was made up of
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the brain stem
and the mid-brain.
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Those two components
of the brain are
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the emotional centers
of our neurological structure.
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Mankind learned that
there were certain patterns
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that were good for them
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and certain patterns
that were not good for them.
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Those that discerned the
patterns that were dangerous
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and could take avoidance
were the ones who survived.
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Those patterns
became ingrained in our DNA.
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And if passed on
from one human to another.
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[Martha]
How did the human brain become
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the powerful machine
it is today?
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Typically, people think
of the Pleistocene era
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over two million years ago.
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Much of the discussion
has been around landscapes
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and what type of landscape
humans find approachable.
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The first is referred
to as prospect.
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Humans feel a sense of safety
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if they can see
a considerable distance.
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They are able to scan
the horizon for any threats.
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Well, a pattern that I like to
refer to a lot is a broad view.
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You can tell
if bad weather's coming
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or predators are coming
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or even enemies
are hiding out in trees.
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If it's sparsely spaced trees
and a big open view,
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that's a pleasure-inducing
pattern.
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And the other has to do with
sources of nourishment.
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Whether that has to do with
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the availability of fruits
and vegetables,
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whether that has to do
with availability of animals
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that one might be hunting
at that period,
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that there are sources
of nourishment.
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Those things seem to apply
to natural environments.
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And we think that
they remain operational
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within
the built environment,
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which is that people
need to feel safe,
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or whatever that constitutes
safety in that setting,
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and you need
to feel nourished.
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And we would speculate that
nourishment can be thought of
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in a more abstract way
than simply,
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can I get food and water?
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Also nourishment for what
it means to feel well,
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to be well,
which becomes, I think,
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more of an issue in
our contemporary society.
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In our research,
we found another variable
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that seems to be important with
the built environment
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that is not as relevant
with natural environments,
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is something
we're calling hominess,
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which is when you walk into
a built environment,
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do you feel at home?
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Does it feel like you own the
space or are comfortable in it?
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And you can have
very beautiful environments in-
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which are still off-putting,
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or at least doesn't feel
quite homey.
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And that's a piece that
we are finding in our research
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that seems to be relevant
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in a way that was not true
for natural environments
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because the notion of hominess
doesn't really apply
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in that setting.
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Trying to lay out
a framework for us
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to start to think
and start to do research
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and empirically
start to measure that
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so that we can do a better
job of creating places.
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Places that are meaningful
to people,
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places that connect with them,
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that are beautiful, that. .
that make sense to people,
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that people
are gonna care about.
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And you have to operate on
that unconscious level.
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If you don't, then- then you
have no chance.
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All mammals have those three
responses to fear,
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fight, flight, and freeze.
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[Justin]
The autonomic nervous system
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supplies the information
to our brain to process.
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So the nervous system is
collecting data
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and then feeding it
to our brain for processing.
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And then the autonomic
nervous system
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is bifurcated
into two components,
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and these are inseparable
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but opposing streams
of information.
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[Meredith] We have two systems,
sympathetic and. .
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and the parasympathetic system
that, uh, work together
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and is measured in
heart rate variability.
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And the variability
is a good thing.
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If we didn't have variability,
um,
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that- that might be a. .
a case where. .
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a. . a person who has- has
Alzheimer's has no variability.
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So you- you want sort of that-
that- that balance,
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that exchange, that variation
between the two systems.
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The parasympathetic system is
that which is calming,
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and the sympathetic system
is that which is
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kind of our
fight-or-flight response.
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It's what happens
when we're under stress.
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We get elevated blood pressure
increase in heart rate.
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There are some very important
health ramifications
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to those two streams
of information.
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So the sympathetic stream of
information is stress inducing.
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It elevates our heart rate,
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increases our blood pressure,
it activates adrenaline
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into our bloodstream,
and also cortisol.
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So adrenaline elevates
our heart rate
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and stresses out
our cardiovascular system,
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compromises
our immune system.
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And some researchers
have even found
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that it affects
the length of our DNA,
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which is affecting
the length of our lives.
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On the other side
of the equation is
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the parasympathetic reaction,
which is rest and relaxation.
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So this is actually
a pleasure reaction
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which lowers our heart rate,
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lowers our blood pressure,
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improves
our cardiovascular system,
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improves our immune system,
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and our overall sense of
health and well-being.
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So certain architectural
patterns can generate
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a sympathetic reaction
or a parasympathetic reaction.
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Just like how the Greeks
have different words
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to describe different types
of love,
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Emmanuel Kant said there were
different types of- of beauty.
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Um, and I think neuroscience
is starting to parse those out.
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And so, for example,
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we have a beauty experience
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that has a outcome
where we feel calm,
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where we feel relaxed.
500
00:23:48,637 --> 00:23:51,573
But we also have beauty
experiences that excite us,
501
00:23:51,607 --> 00:23:54,576
Where we have a heightened
sense of pleasure.
502
00:23:54,610 --> 00:23:57,012
Maybe it's attraction
to another person,
503
00:23:57,045 --> 00:23:59,815
for example, and that's very
stimulating.
504
00:23:59,848 --> 00:24:02,618
There's a variability
between the sympathetic
505
00:24:02,651 --> 00:24:04,186
and the parasympathetic
506
00:24:04,219 --> 00:24:06,455
and I think even where
beauty is concerned.
507
00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:10,492
The parasympathetic response
is more conditions in which
508
00:24:10,525 --> 00:24:12,961
people want
a calmer environment
509
00:24:12,995 --> 00:24:15,664
and the sympathetic
is where people want
510
00:24:15,697 --> 00:24:17,199
a more exciting one, right?
511
00:24:17,232 --> 00:24:19,001
So if you're designing
a sports stadium,
512
00:24:19,034 --> 00:24:20,902
you don't want
the parasympathetic
513
00:24:20,936 --> 00:24:22,704
to be in ascendance.
514
00:24:22,738 --> 00:24:24,673
You want people
to be excited there.
515
00:24:24,706 --> 00:24:27,542
You don't want everybody
to be kind of sort of chill
516
00:24:27,576 --> 00:24:29,578
and not so excited
about what's going on.
517
00:24:29,611 --> 00:24:34,016
So, I think it depends on the
context of what the building is
518
00:24:34,049 --> 00:24:37,619
for what- what the effect
you are trying to create.
519
00:24:37,653 --> 00:24:40,789
Homeostasis
is a very important concept
520
00:24:40,822 --> 00:24:42,858
to our health
and well-being.
521
00:24:42,891 --> 00:24:45,961
And it's bringing
the parasympathetic inputs
522
00:24:45,994 --> 00:24:49,865
and the sympathetic inputs
into a proper balance.
523
00:24:50,632 --> 00:24:54,102
We can't live our life
under stress 24/7.
524
00:24:54,136 --> 00:24:56,972
We know that's bad
for our health.
525
00:24:57,005 --> 00:24:59,908
Likewise, living a life that's
all rest and relaxation,
526
00:24:59,942 --> 00:25:01,977
while I'd like
to try it someday,
527
00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:04,680
is not good for us either.
528
00:25:04,713 --> 00:25:07,683
It also is important
in architecture
529
00:25:07,716 --> 00:25:11,053
that we have strong moments
of awe
530
00:25:11,086 --> 00:25:12,888
and interesting curiosity.
531
00:25:13,255 --> 00:25:17,526
What I want the leaves to do
is to make you feel
532
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,762
that you are responded to
in them.
533
00:25:20,796 --> 00:25:22,964
That they take what you feel
and turn them into something
534
00:25:22,998 --> 00:25:25,634
that's 3-dimensional
and desirable.
535
00:25:25,667 --> 00:25:29,304
The panopticon was a. .
initially a prison.
536
00:25:29,338 --> 00:25:33,075
And it was a prison
where it was like
537
00:25:33,108 --> 00:25:37,079
a star and right in the middle
was where the guards were.
538
00:25:37,112 --> 00:25:40,749
And then on the radii
539
00:25:40,782 --> 00:25:42,617
that radiated out
from the middle
540
00:25:42,651 --> 00:25:46,221
was where
the cells were for the prisons.
541
00:25:46,254 --> 00:25:48,824
And there were supposed
to be prison guards
542
00:25:48,857 --> 00:25:51,960
in the middle watching you
at any given time.
543
00:25:51,993 --> 00:25:55,597
So the panopticon
literally means many eyes.
544
00:25:55,630 --> 00:25:59,067
So it was a way of conserving
with your guards.
545
00:25:59,101 --> 00:26:00,969
So you could just have guards
in the middle
546
00:26:01,002 --> 00:26:03,238
watching everybody.
547
00:26:03,271 --> 00:26:06,341
Of course, the prisoners
couldn't really see the guards.
548
00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:08,777
So the idea was that they're
watching the prisoners,
549
00:26:08,810 --> 00:26:10,912
but the prisoners
can't see them,
550
00:26:10,946 --> 00:26:12,848
which meant that
they really need
551
00:26:12,881 --> 00:26:15,250
to have guards there
ultimately.
552
00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:21,056
And so it's this feeling of
being watched all the time.
553
00:26:21,089 --> 00:26:24,693
And that, uh,
that idea of the panopticon
554
00:26:24,726 --> 00:26:27,329
was then applied
to other things as well.
555
00:26:27,362 --> 00:26:30,232
And that feeling that we're
being watched
556
00:26:30,265 --> 00:26:34,603
led to a sense
of paranoia and to fear.
557
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:36,772
[Martha]
For generations,
the built environment
558
00:26:36,805 --> 00:26:39,374
that surrounds us
has influenced feelings,
559
00:26:39,408 --> 00:26:41,977
fears,
and a sense of identity.
560
00:26:42,010 --> 00:26:44,913
But why is it important
to take evolution
561
00:26:44,946 --> 00:26:48,150
and the human mind
into account and instead,
562
00:26:48,183 --> 00:26:50,952
build for the humans
who inhabit these spaces?
563
00:26:51,420 --> 00:26:54,156
There are different things that
make different people happy.
564
00:26:54,189 --> 00:26:56,925
Right? And so that's again,
comes back to, you know,
565
00:26:56,958 --> 00:26:58,760
architects needing to recognize
566
00:26:58,794 --> 00:27:01,062
that there is
no one type of user
567
00:27:01,096 --> 00:27:03,698
or individual or citizen
that experiences our work.
568
00:27:03,732 --> 00:27:05,767
[Tiziana]
I react to spaces,
569
00:27:05,801 --> 00:27:09,337
especially when I'm in a
building which I really like.
570
00:27:10,172 --> 00:27:13,642
It leaves me a feeling
that stands for some days.
571
00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:17,045
It's really something
inside me, I don't know.
572
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:20,115
But I just loved the feeling
of some kind of buildings
573
00:27:20,148 --> 00:27:22,918
that are
just well-designed.
574
00:27:22,951 --> 00:27:25,720
I think when we say
we love a place
575
00:27:25,754 --> 00:27:28,390
it's because
when we're there,
576
00:27:28,423 --> 00:27:31,726
maybe we feel connected
to ourselves.
577
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,163
Maybe we feel connected with
other people in that place.
578
00:27:35,197 --> 00:27:39,868
Maybe we feel connected with
nature in that place.
579
00:27:39,901 --> 00:27:44,206
Maybe we feel connected to the
past in that place.
580
00:27:44,239 --> 00:27:46,741
Maybe we feel a connection
with the future
581
00:27:46,775 --> 00:27:49,344
or connection
with a higher being.
582
00:27:49,377 --> 00:27:52,414
Conversely, when we say
we hate a place,
583
00:27:52,447 --> 00:27:54,349
it is because
we feel disconnected.
584
00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:55,984
[engine rumbling]
585
00:27:56,017 --> 00:27:59,254
We feel alienated
and we feel isolated.
586
00:27:59,287 --> 00:28:01,056
When we say we hate a place
587
00:28:01,089 --> 00:28:03,091
it's because we don't feel
any connection there.
588
00:28:03,124 --> 00:28:05,894
[Tiziana] An architect
is really more than
589
00:28:05,927 --> 00:28:08,463
just a functional space
because we consume buildings,
590
00:28:08,497 --> 00:28:10,732
we don't experience building.
591
00:28:10,765 --> 00:28:14,302
No one is asking you in the
church to be silent, you know,
592
00:28:14,336 --> 00:28:17,172
but you enter in this space
and you act in that way
593
00:28:17,205 --> 00:28:19,741
because the building
is designed in a way
594
00:28:19,774 --> 00:28:22,944
that you feel that that's
appropriate for you to do.
595
00:28:22,978 --> 00:28:25,947
And the kind of architecture
is really an architecture
596
00:28:25,981 --> 00:28:30,051
planned to guide rituals,
human behavior,
597
00:28:30,085 --> 00:28:32,821
and really allow
an experience of the building.
598
00:28:32,854 --> 00:28:35,156
Because you're creating
something that's public,
599
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:39,227
it has to have the buy-in.
600
00:28:39,261 --> 00:28:44,466
And that's how people feel
that they belong to a place
601
00:28:44,499 --> 00:28:48,003
and it belongs to them
even though they didn't own it.
602
00:28:49,204 --> 00:28:52,374
Person-centered design is
something that I've been
603
00:28:52,407 --> 00:28:56,344
interested in
from my earliest education.
604
00:28:56,378 --> 00:29:00,215
Um, as an undergrad
I studied both science
605
00:29:00,248 --> 00:29:02,350
as well as archaeology.
606
00:29:02,384 --> 00:29:05,520
So getting into architecture
was a natural extension
607
00:29:05,554 --> 00:29:07,923
because it's just archaeology
in reverse.
608
00:29:07,956 --> 00:29:11,927
In- in my mind,
it's about studying people,
609
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,329
and behaviors, and culture,
610
00:29:14,362 --> 00:29:18,433
so that we can design artifacts
to support what they're doing,
611
00:29:18,466 --> 00:29:21,036
to support their culture,
to support their behaviors.
612
00:29:21,069 --> 00:29:23,505
Design always starts
with the person
613
00:29:23,538 --> 00:29:25,840
and trying
to understand their goals,
614
00:29:25,874 --> 00:29:28,276
how they're performing
and support that
615
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:30,111
through artifacts,
through environments
616
00:29:30,145 --> 00:29:31,913
that we're creating
and constructing.
617
00:29:31,947 --> 00:29:33,515
[Hans] We are not succeeding
618
00:29:33,548 --> 00:29:35,517
if the people
who use our buildings
619
00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:38,119
are not finding joy
in these projects.
620
00:29:38,153 --> 00:29:40,522
They are not feeling as if they
are, you know,
621
00:29:40,555 --> 00:29:44,859
somehow fulfilled, buoyed,
uplifted by our work.
622
00:29:44,893 --> 00:29:48,129
[John] You need that language
so as to make sure that
623
00:29:48,163 --> 00:29:50,532
you've got something
in the first place
624
00:29:50,565 --> 00:29:53,401
that everybody
can subscribe to.
625
00:29:53,435 --> 00:29:57,205
But also you need to get across
generational buy-in,
626
00:29:57,238 --> 00:29:59,507
so that future architects
627
00:29:59,541 --> 00:30:02,444
and future members
of the community using it
628
00:30:02,477 --> 00:30:05,046
all feel it
belongs to them as well.
629
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,382
[Hans]
And so, as we design,
630
00:30:07,415 --> 00:30:09,584
we're also thinking
in particular about,
631
00:30:09,618 --> 00:30:12,220
will people who come to
experience these spaces
632
00:30:12,253 --> 00:30:16,157
that we help craft,
will they come away with
633
00:30:16,191 --> 00:30:18,259
a heightened
or deepened sense of identity,
634
00:30:18,293 --> 00:30:19,995
a sense of belonging?
635
00:30:20,028 --> 00:30:22,063
Aesthetics is about
all the senses.
636
00:30:22,097 --> 00:30:24,399
And the visual
tends to dominate
637
00:30:24,432 --> 00:30:26,368
much of the discussion
about aesthetics.
638
00:30:26,401 --> 00:30:28,970
But when I'm talking
about bridge aesthetics
639
00:30:29,004 --> 00:30:30,472
because I was
a bridge designer,
640
00:30:30,505 --> 00:30:32,607
it's much more
about being on a bridge.
641
00:30:32,641 --> 00:30:35,343
The sense of slight
nervousness that you feel,
642
00:30:35,377 --> 00:30:36,945
the wind on your face,
643
00:30:36,978 --> 00:30:38,513
the environment around
you is moving,
644
00:30:38,546 --> 00:30:40,382
there are boats moving.
645
00:30:40,415 --> 00:30:44,319
[Colin] Humans are
preponderantly visual animals,
646
00:30:44,352 --> 00:30:47,055
we're a member of
the. . the primate group.
647
00:30:47,088 --> 00:30:50,425
And primates collectively
almost entirely have brains
648
00:30:50,458 --> 00:30:52,994
that are dominated
by the visual sense.
649
00:30:53,028 --> 00:30:55,063
Unlike most other animals,
650
00:30:55,096 --> 00:30:59,000
we regulate our social lives
by means of our visual sense.
651
00:30:59,034 --> 00:31:01,169
So I know how you're feeling
652
00:31:01,202 --> 00:31:03,505
based on the expression
of your face.
653
00:31:03,538 --> 00:31:06,174
I'm learning about
the social context of my life
654
00:31:06,207 --> 00:31:08,076
based on the visual sense.
655
00:31:08,109 --> 00:31:10,145
It's not to say that. .
that the other senses
656
00:31:10,178 --> 00:31:12,113
aren't making
a contribution.
657
00:31:12,147 --> 00:31:14,616
If you walk into a room where
there's a really bad smell,
658
00:31:14,649 --> 00:31:17,352
you are likely to have
a negative impression
659
00:31:17,385 --> 00:31:20,288
of that room and
a negative set of emotions.
660
00:31:20,321 --> 00:31:22,457
We are actually
reasonably good
661
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:24,959
at being able to process
auditory information.
662
00:31:24,993 --> 00:31:27,228
You can walk through a space
with your eyes closed
663
00:31:27,262 --> 00:31:29,397
and simply from the echoes
of your foot falls
664
00:31:29,431 --> 00:31:31,433
or even the sound
of your breathing,
665
00:31:31,466 --> 00:31:34,502
you can get some sense of the
size of that space.
666
00:31:34,536 --> 00:31:38,006
So we're doing space
with our auditory senses
667
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,341
as well as
with our. . our visual sense.
668
00:31:40,375 --> 00:31:42,010
Why is it important
to look at how
669
00:31:42,043 --> 00:31:43,912
the built environment
impacts people?
670
00:31:43,945 --> 00:31:45,647
Well, because
it has a big impact on us.
671
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,016
Long car commutes,
672
00:31:48,049 --> 00:31:51,319
living in a small flat
off a long corridor,
673
00:31:51,352 --> 00:31:52,987
where you don't know
who you're gonna meet
674
00:31:53,021 --> 00:31:54,589
when you come out
of that corridor
675
00:31:54,622 --> 00:31:56,558
or where there are lots
of intermediate space
676
00:31:56,591 --> 00:31:58,293
that's neither public
nor private.
677
00:31:58,326 --> 00:32:00,361
Er, living in
a polluted environment,
678
00:32:00,395 --> 00:32:02,597
living in an environment where
you're ashamed to live there,
679
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:04,432
living in an environment
you find ugly,
680
00:32:04,466 --> 00:32:07,302
living in an environment
where it's noisy or stressful
681
00:32:07,335 --> 00:32:10,271
or difficult to go about
your quotidian business.
682
00:32:10,305 --> 00:32:12,273
All these things
are provably bad
683
00:32:12,307 --> 00:32:14,576
for the amount we walk,
our mental health,
684
00:32:14,609 --> 00:32:16,945
and we can and should fix them.
685
00:32:16,978 --> 00:32:17,946
This stuff matters.
686
00:32:19,114 --> 00:32:22,717
[Nikos] Biophilia is
the love of living things.
687
00:32:22,751 --> 00:32:25,487
Human beings love plants,
flowers,
688
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,455
we love our domestic animals,
689
00:32:27,489 --> 00:32:31,126
we love other human beings
on a primal level.
690
00:32:31,159 --> 00:32:34,062
When we apply certain
biophilic principles of design
691
00:32:34,095 --> 00:32:36,631
to create our environments,
then we connect to them.
692
00:32:36,664 --> 00:32:39,334
Biophilia is
this evolutionary perspective,
693
00:32:39,367 --> 00:32:41,336
where, um,
there's a suggestion
694
00:32:41,369 --> 00:32:43,538
that people have evolved
in nature.
695
00:32:43,571 --> 00:32:46,040
And only recently since
the Industrial Revolution
696
00:32:46,074 --> 00:32:47,575
have we separated ourselves
from it.
697
00:32:47,609 --> 00:32:49,544
And so our bodies
aren't able to adapt to
698
00:32:49,577 --> 00:32:52,347
the new environments because
it's such a recent phenomenon.
699
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:55,717
The first bit of research
on biophilia
700
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:59,287
was very much in the health
space in the early 1980s,
701
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,222
took two hospital wards.
702
00:33:01,256 --> 00:33:03,091
One of the hospital wards
looked out into a brick wall,
703
00:33:03,124 --> 00:33:05,393
and the other looked out
to attractive green space.
704
00:33:05,426 --> 00:33:07,195
And they had enough data
705
00:33:07,228 --> 00:33:09,130
that they're able to match
patients from two wards,
706
00:33:09,164 --> 00:33:11,132
of roughly similar age,
707
00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:12,667
roughly similar
socioeconomic status,
708
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:14,636
roughly similar levels
of ailment.
709
00:33:14,669 --> 00:33:16,738
And, again, you can probably
guess where this is going.
710
00:33:16,771 --> 00:33:19,040
Patients in the ward which
looked out onto greenery,
711
00:33:19,073 --> 00:33:20,608
they got better faster.
712
00:33:20,642 --> 00:33:22,610
Fascinating, they stayed
better for longer
713
00:33:22,644 --> 00:33:25,380
than the patients who
were in the ward that didn't.
714
00:33:25,413 --> 00:33:27,649
And since then, there's been
lots of subsequent research
715
00:33:27,682 --> 00:33:30,618
that links, you know, greenery
and what's not threatening
716
00:33:30,652 --> 00:33:33,221
and places
that you find beautiful
717
00:33:33,254 --> 00:33:35,390
with better mental
and physical health.
718
00:33:35,423 --> 00:33:38,326
What always amazes me
is why buildings
719
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:43,064
such as hospitals are designed
to be such brutish places.
720
00:33:43,097 --> 00:33:45,400
You'd have thought a hospital
in particular
721
00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:48,503
where people are feeling ill,
feeling bad,
722
00:33:48,536 --> 00:33:50,371
you really want to design them
723
00:33:50,405 --> 00:33:55,143
so that they will uplift
the patients.
724
00:33:55,176 --> 00:33:57,111
And one of the things
that we did
725
00:33:57,145 --> 00:34:00,381
to the Defense National
Rehabilitation Centre,
726
00:34:00,415 --> 00:34:03,785
is that the client there
came to me and said,
727
00:34:03,818 --> 00:34:07,055
"Look, we want to design
this rehabilitation center,
728
00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:10,725
but we want to make sure that
it's not just the medicine that
729
00:34:10,758 --> 00:34:14,095
we're putting in there, but
actually building a building
730
00:34:14,128 --> 00:34:17,232
which is actually going
to help, positively help,
731
00:34:17,265 --> 00:34:20,401
rather than just be a nice
place for people to be in. "
732
00:34:20,435 --> 00:34:22,737
One of the things
that we did was
733
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:25,406
to find a
nice rural location.
734
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,545
We found Stanford Hall which
was an old 18th century estate.
735
00:34:30,578 --> 00:34:34,849
This was the first time
that a client had come along,
736
00:34:34,883 --> 00:34:39,454
who had actually acknowledged
that the architecture
737
00:34:39,487 --> 00:34:41,589
was actually going
to help the people
738
00:34:41,623 --> 00:34:43,524
who are going
to occupy the buildings.
739
00:34:43,558 --> 00:34:45,860
It's not the condition
that we're relating to,
740
00:34:45,894 --> 00:34:49,497
it's the person
and the people themselves.
741
00:34:49,531 --> 00:34:51,799
And it's really creating
a sanctuary here
742
00:34:51,833 --> 00:34:54,569
where the patients can find
somewhere
743
00:34:54,602 --> 00:34:56,838
within this whole complex
744
00:34:56,871 --> 00:34:59,874
which is going to suit them
best as individuals,
745
00:34:59,908 --> 00:35:01,809
and at the same time provide,
of course,
746
00:35:01,843 --> 00:35:03,778
all that medical equipment
747
00:35:03,811 --> 00:35:08,316
and to actually service
their needs.
748
00:35:08,349 --> 00:35:10,652
So again, it comes
back to that whole idea
749
00:35:10,685 --> 00:35:13,588
creating something which
is useful, convenient,
750
00:35:13,621 --> 00:35:16,658
but at the same time
as pleasurable
751
00:35:16,691 --> 00:35:20,762
and appeals as much as possible
to the human senses
752
00:35:20,795 --> 00:35:23,798
so that people
can react to that.
753
00:35:24,866 --> 00:35:27,635
Neuroscience is, I think,
opening the door for,
754
00:35:27,669 --> 00:35:31,139
er, architecture to become
much more rigorous,
755
00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:34,709
and also for people to
change how they understand
756
00:35:34,742 --> 00:35:37,245
the value
of good architecture.
757
00:35:37,278 --> 00:35:39,547
I think it is
a real game changer.
758
00:35:39,580 --> 00:35:41,749
We've been talking about
this notion for years now,
759
00:35:41,783 --> 00:35:43,551
the evidence-based design.
760
00:35:43,585 --> 00:35:45,453
Beauty is
not subjective.
761
00:35:45,486 --> 00:35:48,256
What one individual person will
say you can't predict.
762
00:35:48,289 --> 00:35:51,359
Take a room of 10 or 100
or 1,000 people,
763
00:35:51,392 --> 00:35:53,928
and you can predict
growing confidence
764
00:35:53,962 --> 00:35:55,830
how the strong majority
of people
765
00:35:55,863 --> 00:35:58,232
will respond to most places
most of the time.
766
00:35:58,266 --> 00:35:59,701
Evidence-based design, er,
767
00:35:59,734 --> 00:36:01,903
actually came out of
evidence-based medicine.
768
00:36:01,936 --> 00:36:06,374
So using data and research
to inform
769
00:36:06,407 --> 00:36:09,310
how doctors practice medicine,
clinicians practice medicine.
770
00:36:09,344 --> 00:36:14,382
In our project at Sutter
Roseville Oncology Center,
771
00:36:14,415 --> 00:36:17,685
which is an outpatient facility
for people with cancer,
772
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,387
some of the research activities
we did
773
00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:22,357
were to have focus groups
with patients.
774
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:26,461
We built an exam room
and a clinic out of cardboard,
775
00:36:26,494 --> 00:36:30,331
and we brought people through
that to test and see
776
00:36:30,365 --> 00:36:32,433
what worked
and didn't work.
777
00:36:32,467 --> 00:36:34,535
We collect information
at the beginning,
778
00:36:34,569 --> 00:36:36,971
we collect their research
to inform the design.
779
00:36:37,005 --> 00:36:38,773
But we don't wait
till everything
780
00:36:38,806 --> 00:36:40,675
is constructed to test it.
781
00:36:40,708 --> 00:36:43,444
We're always testing
through the design process,
782
00:36:43,478 --> 00:36:45,346
we're not just waiting
till the end
783
00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,482
and. . and you can't do much
about it.
784
00:36:47,515 --> 00:36:49,817
The Eating Recovery Center
785
00:36:49,851 --> 00:36:52,487
treats persons
with eating disorders.
786
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,589
I went into
the neuroscience research
787
00:36:54,622 --> 00:36:56,991
because I had hypothesized
that there might be
788
00:36:57,025 --> 00:37:00,261
an environmental correlate
to the- the disorder
789
00:37:00,294 --> 00:37:01,963
and- and that is indeed
what we found.
790
00:37:01,996 --> 00:37:06,801
For example, in persons with
anorexia and bulimia,
791
00:37:06,834 --> 00:37:09,604
they tend to overestimate
their body size.
792
00:37:09,637 --> 00:37:13,975
As a result of that,
they also misjudge distances
793
00:37:14,008 --> 00:37:17,311
between their body
and another object
794
00:37:17,345 --> 00:37:20,548
or a person or a wall
or environment.
795
00:37:20,581 --> 00:37:23,017
And so they have a different
perception of space
796
00:37:23,051 --> 00:37:24,819
or spatial cognition
797
00:37:24,852 --> 00:37:27,255
than people who don't have
the eating disorders.
798
00:37:27,288 --> 00:37:32,360
It is important to mind that
evidence from neuroscience
799
00:37:32,393 --> 00:37:35,863
so that we could design
the right spaces for them.
800
00:37:35,897 --> 00:37:38,900
Some of the things
we did was increase distances
801
00:37:38,933 --> 00:37:42,303
almost by two-fold
in the dining,
802
00:37:42,336 --> 00:37:45,473
so that they didn't feel
as cramped or as crowded.
803
00:37:45,506 --> 00:37:48,810
In the human-centered design
paradigm this is desirability.
804
00:37:48,843 --> 00:37:52,714
And, and so for us
we use user experience methods
805
00:37:52,747 --> 00:37:55,516
to understand what people want,
806
00:37:55,550 --> 00:37:59,020
and I think that's where beauty
becomes really important.
807
00:37:59,854 --> 00:38:03,324
So the fact that buildings
are made by humans for humans,
808
00:38:03,357 --> 00:38:07,428
but become inhuman and against
the humans who are there,
809
00:38:07,462 --> 00:38:09,764
become projections
of the designer
810
00:38:09,797 --> 00:38:12,333
over the rest of us
as a statement of,
811
00:38:12,366 --> 00:38:15,036
"this is important
because I am important. "
812
00:38:15,069 --> 00:38:17,538
The perception of beauty
has been,
813
00:38:17,572 --> 00:38:21,576
um, compartmentalizing
our society.
814
00:38:21,609 --> 00:38:23,978
The industry of creating art
815
00:38:24,011 --> 00:38:25,947
does not create
beautiful things,
816
00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:27,682
and the industry of building
architecture
817
00:38:27,715 --> 00:38:30,051
no longer creates
beautiful architecture.
818
00:38:30,084 --> 00:38:32,887
So there has been
a disassociation
819
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,323
from what the human body feels
820
00:38:35,356 --> 00:38:38,025
to be beautiful
in a biological sense,
821
00:38:38,059 --> 00:38:41,596
from what is officially shown
in the press as beautiful.
822
00:38:43,631 --> 00:38:47,068
Though in making something that
makes many people miserable,
823
00:38:47,101 --> 00:38:52,073
that shows the perversity
of the desire to control
824
00:38:52,106 --> 00:38:54,575
over the desire to create.
825
00:38:54,976 --> 00:38:56,711
[Nikos]
We can go to the moon.
826
00:38:56,744 --> 00:38:59,046
We have a roving robot
with a camera on Mars.
827
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,717
Are we incapable of creating
a decent office environment?
828
00:39:02,750 --> 00:39:04,986
Are we incapable of creating
a decent kitchen?
829
00:39:05,019 --> 00:39:08,823
These are deeply ingrained
prejudices in our society.
830
00:39:08,856 --> 00:39:11,592
And even people who have not
gone through architecture,
831
00:39:11,626 --> 00:39:13,728
so they have picked up
from the media
832
00:39:13,761 --> 00:39:16,998
that this is the way
things are supposed to be.
833
00:39:17,031 --> 00:39:18,799
[John]
When you design something
834
00:39:18,833 --> 00:39:20,835
which is completely alien,
completely your own,
835
00:39:20,868 --> 00:39:22,803
and somebody says,
"I don't like it"
836
00:39:22,837 --> 00:39:24,639
and you say, "Well,
you don't understand it,
837
00:39:24,672 --> 00:39:27,842
that's why you don't like it",
What can they say?
838
00:39:27,875 --> 00:39:31,879
They usually just give up
and that's the problem.
839
00:39:31,913 --> 00:39:34,382
Working within something
which is traditional
840
00:39:34,415 --> 00:39:36,584
allows people to engage,
841
00:39:36,617 --> 00:39:39,086
allows people
to become part of it
842
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,024
and allows people to feel
comfortable talking about it.
843
00:39:43,057 --> 00:39:44,792
[Nikos] When you look at
science fiction films,
844
00:39:44,826 --> 00:39:47,495
sometimes you see things
that are alien
845
00:39:47,528 --> 00:39:50,064
and you know
they cannot be alive.
846
00:39:50,097 --> 00:39:51,566
It doesn't look
like something that,
847
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,568
that can be alive
even on Mars.
848
00:39:53,601 --> 00:39:56,837
We have an intrinsic connection
with what is alive
849
00:39:56,871 --> 00:39:58,105
and what is beautiful.
850
00:39:58,139 --> 00:39:59,874
This is the design disconnect.
851
00:39:59,907 --> 00:40:01,742
We get. . we get into
lots trouble for this.
852
00:40:01,776 --> 00:40:03,744
So there are three
or four bits of research
853
00:40:03,778 --> 00:40:06,547
which show with pretty high
level of confidence
854
00:40:06,581 --> 00:40:09,750
a predictable difference
between what, if you like,
855
00:40:09,784 --> 00:40:12,019
professional designers
and everyone else
856
00:40:12,053 --> 00:40:14,021
prefer
or generally say they prefer.
857
00:40:14,055 --> 00:40:15,823
The first study
I'm aware on this
858
00:40:15,857 --> 00:40:18,125
was done by
my uncle David Halper.
859
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:21,596
He was actually experimenting
on what impact
860
00:40:21,629 --> 00:40:24,632
repeated exposure to the same
image has on your preference.
861
00:40:24,665 --> 00:40:26,100
That was what
he was trying to do,
862
00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:27,602
but he actually ended up
with different findings.
863
00:40:28,035 --> 00:40:30,638
He was using faces
and using buildings.
864
00:40:30,671 --> 00:40:32,940
And he was doing on students
because students are cheap.
865
00:40:32,974 --> 00:40:34,909
And he showed, for different
faces, to lots of people,
866
00:40:34,942 --> 00:40:36,877
and he showed different
buildings to lots of people.
867
00:40:36,911 --> 00:40:39,480
Faces, you know,
he got the response,
868
00:40:39,513 --> 00:40:41,015
I guess he was expecting.
869
00:40:41,048 --> 00:40:43,050
Buildings, he realized
that the responses
870
00:40:43,084 --> 00:40:45,953
were [indistinct] into two
completely different subsets.
871
00:40:45,987 --> 00:40:49,023
Subset Group A, whose favorite
building was that
872
00:40:49,056 --> 00:40:50,825
and your second favorite
building was that
873
00:40:50,858 --> 00:40:52,793
and whose least favorite
building were those.
874
00:40:52,827 --> 00:40:55,129
And there was Group B where
it was literally the opposite,
875
00:40:55,162 --> 00:40:56,697
completely averted.
876
00:40:56,731 --> 00:40:58,532
So that got him puzzling
so he had. .
877
00:40:58,566 --> 00:41:00,768
he had further look at these
two sets of students.
878
00:41:00,801 --> 00:41:03,004
He found the Group A
was the architecture students
879
00:41:03,037 --> 00:41:05,573
and Group B was everyone else.
880
00:41:05,606 --> 00:41:07,708
And then he looked even further
and he realized that the longer
881
00:41:07,742 --> 00:41:10,678
people had been architect
students, the more divergent
882
00:41:10,711 --> 00:41:12,680
they were from the rest
of the student body.
883
00:41:14,115 --> 00:41:16,617
The Hamilton Building
of the Denver Art Museum
884
00:41:16,651 --> 00:41:19,520
was really groundbreaking
at the time it was built
885
00:41:19,553 --> 00:41:22,690
because we had
the technology to create
886
00:41:22,723 --> 00:41:26,160
these new forms,
these crazy angles.
887
00:41:26,193 --> 00:41:28,829
And because this was new,
888
00:41:28,863 --> 00:41:31,766
these forms hadn't been
experimented with before
889
00:41:31,799 --> 00:41:33,634
at this scale.
890
00:41:33,668 --> 00:41:36,103
It was also a new experience
for the museum goers,
891
00:41:36,137 --> 00:41:38,839
for the people experiencing
these crazy angles.
892
00:41:38,873 --> 00:41:43,744
Some people began to report
a feeling a sense of dizziness,
893
00:41:43,778 --> 00:41:46,747
especially when
they were going up the stairs.
894
00:41:46,781 --> 00:41:50,551
What's happening there is
a. . a disconnect
895
00:41:50,584 --> 00:41:53,754
between what your-
your eyes are telling you,
896
00:41:53,788 --> 00:41:55,856
the visual information
that you're getting,
897
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:57,992
which is these angles,
898
00:41:58,025 --> 00:42:00,795
which is telling you that
your position is not upright,
899
00:42:00,828 --> 00:42:03,831
but your inner ear cells
900
00:42:03,864 --> 00:42:05,733
where gravity
is pushing down on them,
901
00:42:05,766 --> 00:42:08,135
is telling you that
you are upright.
902
00:42:08,169 --> 00:42:10,204
So your brain is confused.
903
00:42:10,237 --> 00:42:12,239
Am I upright?
Am I not upright?
904
00:42:12,273 --> 00:42:15,209
And the result
is this feeling of dizziness.
905
00:42:15,242 --> 00:42:19,914
The Hamilton Building though,
if you look at the interviews
906
00:42:19,947 --> 00:42:22,283
with the architect
Daniel Libeskind,
907
00:42:22,316 --> 00:42:25,753
he wanted a provocative piece
for the city of Denver.
908
00:42:25,786 --> 00:42:29,056
And certainly the intent of all
art is not to be beautiful.
909
00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:32,660
And in some cases
it does intend to. . to provoke
910
00:42:32,693 --> 00:42:35,096
or make people
think differently.
911
00:42:35,129 --> 00:42:38,833
There are other buildings
that have been designed,
912
00:42:38,866 --> 00:42:41,736
some of them intentionally
to disorient you
913
00:42:41,769 --> 00:42:43,237
like there's a building
914
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:45,873
called the Upside Down House
in Poland.
915
00:42:45,906 --> 00:42:48,676
And even while they were
constructing that,
916
00:42:48,709 --> 00:42:52,179
the workers had to take a break
very frequently because
917
00:42:52,213 --> 00:42:54,982
they would feel dizzy,
they would feel disoriented
918
00:42:55,015 --> 00:42:57,585
and it was really
upsetting their systems.
919
00:42:57,618 --> 00:42:59,120
Analogy is music.
920
00:42:59,153 --> 00:43:02,256
So, in. . in Britain,
there are, uh,
921
00:43:02,289 --> 00:43:05,026
two main stations
that play "classical" music.
922
00:43:05,059 --> 00:43:07,795
There's one called Classic FM,
which music aficionados
923
00:43:07,828 --> 00:43:09,597
are a bit snooty about
because, you know,
924
00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:11,132
it's a bit predictable,
a bit of Mozart,
925
00:43:11,165 --> 00:43:13,234
bit of Puccini,
bit of Williams,
926
00:43:13,267 --> 00:43:15,202
you know, it's stuff you've
sort of heard before.
927
00:43:15,236 --> 00:43:17,104
Then there's Radio 3
which is no doubt
928
00:43:17,138 --> 00:43:19,173
much more interesting if you're
into your academic music,
929
00:43:19,206 --> 00:43:21,075
which plays far more
experimental music,
930
00:43:21,108 --> 00:43:22,777
it plays the classics as well,
931
00:43:22,810 --> 00:43:24,612
but it's out there
pushing the boundaries.
932
00:43:24,645 --> 00:43:26,180
And the difference is this,
933
00:43:26,213 --> 00:43:28,749
your music taste or my music
taste doesn't matter.
934
00:43:28,783 --> 00:43:30,351
It's our music taste.
Listen to what we like.
935
00:43:30,384 --> 00:43:32,386
Listen to. . we go to the
concerts we want to go to.
936
00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:35,055
But what we build in the built
environment does matter,
937
00:43:35,089 --> 00:43:36,957
and it has an impact
on the well-being
938
00:43:36,991 --> 00:43:39,160
and the health
of our fellow citizens.
939
00:43:39,193 --> 00:43:42,029
So if people who have come
to have divergent tastes,
940
00:43:42,062 --> 00:43:44,932
no criticism, from the rest
of the population,
941
00:43:44,965 --> 00:43:46,801
if they're controlling
what we build,
942
00:43:46,834 --> 00:43:48,702
then we need
to correct for that.
943
00:43:48,736 --> 00:43:50,237
[Martha]
So,
how do we build for humans?
944
00:43:50,271 --> 00:43:54,275
And how can neuroscience
help us do this?
945
00:43:54,308 --> 00:43:57,244
For years, advertisers have
been utilizing technology,
946
00:43:57,278 --> 00:43:59,380
examining how the brain reacts
947
00:43:59,413 --> 00:44:01,949
to one color
or font over another.
948
00:44:01,982 --> 00:44:06,087
Why not apply these tools
to the built environment?
949
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,790
[Colin] So we have tried
as much as we possibly can
950
00:44:09,824 --> 00:44:11,258
to adopt scientific methods
951
00:44:11,292 --> 00:44:13,327
to understanding
that relationship
952
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,330
between the built environment
and human psychology.
953
00:44:16,363 --> 00:44:18,199
And we've used
954
00:44:18,232 --> 00:44:20,134
a range of different kinds
of tools for that.
955
00:44:20,167 --> 00:44:24,205
One of the cornerstones is
what's called self-assessment.
956
00:44:24,238 --> 00:44:27,408
We ask people when placed into
a particular kind of setting
957
00:44:27,441 --> 00:44:30,377
to reflect on how
that setting makes them feel.
958
00:44:31,312 --> 00:44:33,280
The other thing
that we've ventured into
959
00:44:33,314 --> 00:44:36,350
is the use of biometrics
to explore the relationship
960
00:44:36,383 --> 00:44:39,420
between human psychology
and built environment.
961
00:44:39,453 --> 00:44:41,689
I wanted to see how people
actually use nature
962
00:44:41,722 --> 00:44:43,123
within
our urban environments.
963
00:44:43,157 --> 00:44:45,960
I can actually study how
people can be happier
964
00:44:45,993 --> 00:44:47,928
and have higher levels of
well-being and health
965
00:44:47,962 --> 00:44:49,463
based on reducing
people's stress levels
966
00:44:49,497 --> 00:44:51,098
and improving attention
967
00:44:51,131 --> 00:44:52,800
and then also looking at
people's mood.
968
00:44:52,833 --> 00:44:55,369
One big development
in the field is, uh,
969
00:44:55,402 --> 00:44:58,339
not only the miniaturization of
some of these hardware sensors,
970
00:44:58,372 --> 00:45:00,774
but also the fact that now
they're wireless.
971
00:45:00,808 --> 00:45:03,210
One of the monitors
that we use goes on your wrist
972
00:45:03,244 --> 00:45:05,079
just like a regular watch.
973
00:45:05,112 --> 00:45:07,181
It measures your heart rate
through your skin.
974
00:45:07,214 --> 00:45:08,916
And we have two sensors
that measure
975
00:45:08,949 --> 00:45:10,284
your skin conductance
976
00:45:10,317 --> 00:45:11,452
and basically
these two electrodes
977
00:45:11,485 --> 00:45:13,220
pass an electric current,
978
00:45:13,254 --> 00:45:15,222
1/1,000 the amount
of what you'd get
979
00:45:15,256 --> 00:45:17,057
if you touched a doorknob
and got shock.
980
00:45:17,091 --> 00:45:18,492
The faster
the electric current goes,
981
00:45:18,526 --> 00:45:20,461
uh, the more sweat
is on your arm.
982
00:45:20,494 --> 00:45:23,097
And so that's going to show
heightened sense of arousal.
983
00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:25,032
One of the areas will be
984
00:45:25,065 --> 00:45:27,468
a naturally restorative
environment.
985
00:45:27,501 --> 00:45:30,104
You're surrounded by trees,
you've got a heavy tree canopy,
986
00:45:30,137 --> 00:45:33,774
have this sense of being away
from your everyday environment.
987
00:45:33,807 --> 00:45:35,509
And then there's
a street corner, high traffic,
988
00:45:35,543 --> 00:45:38,178
was rated
as least restorative urban,
989
00:45:38,212 --> 00:45:40,381
really boring, plain buildings
in front of us.
990
00:45:40,414 --> 00:45:43,217
So lots of noise and not very
interesting environment.
991
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:46,754
And then the last environment
is this little courtyard.
992
00:45:46,787 --> 00:45:48,355
The brickwork around the area
993
00:45:48,389 --> 00:45:50,057
is really interesting
to look at.
994
00:45:50,090 --> 00:45:52,293
There's always lots of people
walking through.
995
00:45:52,326 --> 00:45:54,395
And there's
some little hanging plants.
996
00:45:54,428 --> 00:45:56,830
So not a lot of nature
by just a little bit.
997
00:45:56,864 --> 00:45:58,799
It's much more interesting
environment to look around.
998
00:45:58,832 --> 00:46:01,368
So we can see whether people
were really stressed out
999
00:46:01,402 --> 00:46:03,804
or rather
they're really excited.
1000
00:46:03,837 --> 00:46:06,273
And so from there we can then
determine what that signal
1001
00:46:06,307 --> 00:46:08,175
is looking like
for the skin conductance
1002
00:46:08,209 --> 00:46:09,843
while as for heart rate,
1003
00:46:09,877 --> 00:46:11,445
you can measure
the interbeat intervals
1004
00:46:11,478 --> 00:46:13,881
when your parasympathetic
nervous system is active.
1005
00:46:13,914 --> 00:46:16,417
So you're resting
and digesting situation,
1006
00:46:16,450 --> 00:46:18,919
then you're gonna have
more heart rate variability
1007
00:46:18,953 --> 00:46:21,255
because your heart rate doesn't
need to be so consistent.
1008
00:46:21,288 --> 00:46:23,390
While as when you're
in a stressed-out state,
1009
00:46:23,424 --> 00:46:25,960
your sympathetic nervous system
is gonna be more active.
1010
00:46:25,993 --> 00:46:28,128
And what we find is
that you get much less
1011
00:46:28,162 --> 00:46:30,030
heart rate variability
because your body
1012
00:46:30,064 --> 00:46:31,465
has to be very consistent
because it needs
1013
00:46:31,498 --> 00:46:32,933
to make sure that
when there's blood
1014
00:46:32,967 --> 00:46:34,435
that needs to go
to your muscles
1015
00:46:34,468 --> 00:46:36,003
so you can
run away from a bear
1016
00:46:36,036 --> 00:46:37,538
or something like that,
you have that.
1017
00:46:37,571 --> 00:46:39,473
So when we're looking at
that heart rate variability,
1018
00:46:39,506 --> 00:46:41,575
we're able to tell
whether people are resting
1019
00:46:41,609 --> 00:46:44,445
or whether they have
that, um, stressed-out
1020
00:46:44,478 --> 00:46:46,413
fight-or-flight
kind of response.
1021
00:46:46,447 --> 00:46:49,083
So, traditionally,
uh, biosensor research
1022
00:46:49,116 --> 00:46:52,886
has been very cumbersome,
complex and costly as well.
1023
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,956
Now it's easier to actually
plug and play
1024
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:58,425
all of these sensors
and hardware together
1025
00:46:58,459 --> 00:46:59,860
so that the researcher
can focus on
1026
00:46:59,893 --> 00:47:01,428
what's really important.
1027
00:47:01,462 --> 00:47:03,464
If we want to take this
into the real-world,
1028
00:47:03,497 --> 00:47:05,532
we use something like
these eye tracking glasses.
1029
00:47:05,566 --> 00:47:07,434
They have
a tiny little array of
1030
00:47:07,468 --> 00:47:11,005
an infrared light emitters
and, uh, cameras
1031
00:47:11,038 --> 00:47:13,307
and are able to track
where I'm actually looking
1032
00:47:13,340 --> 00:47:15,342
in the scene in real-time.
1033
00:47:15,376 --> 00:47:17,911
[Justin] Eye tracking is
powerful for our research
1034
00:47:17,945 --> 00:47:19,880
because it helps you understand
1035
00:47:19,913 --> 00:47:24,018
what is called
pre-attentive processing.
1036
00:47:24,051 --> 00:47:28,889
In those first 3-5 seconds that
you see an image or a scene,
1037
00:47:28,922 --> 00:47:32,426
it's that unconscious
that's revealing itself.
1038
00:47:32,459 --> 00:47:35,062
And if you track
a person's eye,
1039
00:47:35,095 --> 00:47:37,231
you'll know what
they're fixating on
1040
00:47:37,264 --> 00:47:40,334
and that'll tell you what
they are interested in
1041
00:47:40,367 --> 00:47:43,137
and attracted to look
at an unconscious level.
1042
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:45,406
It's a window
into the unconscious.
1043
00:47:45,439 --> 00:47:47,408
And so one
of our early ideas was,
1044
00:47:47,441 --> 00:47:50,611
let's take Boston City Hall
because it's been the building
1045
00:47:50,644 --> 00:47:53,414
that had issues with the public
with its reception
1046
00:47:53,447 --> 00:47:55,282
for over 50 years.
1047
00:47:55,315 --> 00:47:57,117
What we realized is that
1048
00:47:57,151 --> 00:47:59,486
people have a very hard time
looking at the building.
1049
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,922
They'll tend to look at other
people around the building,
1050
00:48:01,955 --> 00:48:03,590
or they'll look
through the building
1051
00:48:03,624 --> 00:48:05,359
because there are
some areas in the building
1052
00:48:05,392 --> 00:48:07,127
where you can see light
through the building
1053
00:48:07,161 --> 00:48:09,096
but don't really want to look
at the building.
1054
00:48:09,129 --> 00:48:11,598
Whereas when you eye track
the Old State House,
1055
00:48:11,632 --> 00:48:14,935
the 1713 buildings
is a 10th of a mile away,
1056
00:48:14,968 --> 00:48:17,271
people instantly
within one second
1057
00:48:17,304 --> 00:48:19,106
are looking right at the center
of that building.
1058
00:48:19,139 --> 00:48:22,209
So some buildings are designed
by design are easier
1059
00:48:22,242 --> 00:48:24,511
for our brain to take
in unconsciously
1060
00:48:24,545 --> 00:48:26,380
without our conscious
awareness.
1061
00:48:26,413 --> 00:48:29,149
[Justin] Eye tracking
is only part of the story.
1062
00:48:29,183 --> 00:48:31,652
What we need to be
very aware of is
1063
00:48:31,685 --> 00:48:35,122
just because
someone's eye fixates on,
1064
00:48:35,155 --> 00:48:36,924
let's say a window,
1065
00:48:36,957 --> 00:48:40,361
that is suggesting
an unconscious level,
1066
00:48:40,394 --> 00:48:42,262
that is where
they want to look.
1067
00:48:42,296 --> 00:48:45,365
But it could be
because they're scared of that.
1068
00:48:45,399 --> 00:48:47,534
And he wanted to look at it
because they're afraid
1069
00:48:47,568 --> 00:48:49,970
and that's a trigger
of flight response.
1070
00:48:50,003 --> 00:48:52,539
I think we need to do more
robust scientific studies
1071
00:48:52,573 --> 00:48:55,209
that show how important eye
tracking,
1072
00:48:55,242 --> 00:48:58,078
but also the other aggregated
biometric measures
1073
00:48:58,112 --> 00:49:01,148
are to reframe architectural
experience.
1074
00:49:01,181 --> 00:49:04,084
[Martha]
In addition to tapping
into new technology,
1075
00:49:04,118 --> 00:49:06,220
architects are taking
a closer look
1076
00:49:06,253 --> 00:49:08,489
into the structural elements
and patterns
1077
00:49:08,522 --> 00:49:11,658
repeatedly used by
generations of humankind.
1078
00:49:11,692 --> 00:49:14,228
Our firm has been
looking at a pattern
1079
00:49:14,261 --> 00:49:17,164
that has recurred worldwide.
1080
00:49:17,197 --> 00:49:20,134
We'd like to refer to it as
a three-by-three pattern.
1081
00:49:20,167 --> 00:49:25,005
We started to notice that it
wasn't just a western pattern.
1082
00:49:25,038 --> 00:49:27,574
It occurred
on every single continent.
1083
00:49:27,608 --> 00:49:31,044
We actually traced it back
to 5000 BC in China
1084
00:49:31,078 --> 00:49:34,114
which is pretty remarkable.
1085
00:49:34,148 --> 00:49:39,019
Why would this single pattern
be recurring in every culture
1086
00:49:39,052 --> 00:49:40,621
on every continent
1087
00:49:40,654 --> 00:49:45,292
through almost the entire
length of recorded time.
1088
00:49:45,325 --> 00:49:49,730
There are major examples of
this pattern being used
1089
00:49:49,763 --> 00:49:55,369
to establish the geometry a
famous points of architecture.
1090
00:49:55,402 --> 00:49:59,106
And these are spots that are
revered by mankind.
1091
00:49:59,139 --> 00:50:02,543
♪
1092
00:50:02,576 --> 00:50:05,779
So I'm looking at the
three-by-three geometry
1093
00:50:05,813 --> 00:50:08,749
for architecture,
we refer to it as
1094
00:50:08,782 --> 00:50:12,252
left, center, right,
top, center, bottom.
1095
00:50:12,286 --> 00:50:14,688
And basically the key idea
here is that
1096
00:50:14,721 --> 00:50:17,724
there's a center
with boundaries
1097
00:50:17,758 --> 00:50:21,461
and the geometry doesn't
have to be rigorous.
1098
00:50:21,495 --> 00:50:28,635
♪
1099
00:50:28,669 --> 00:50:33,040
The center can be quite large
and boundaries can be small,
1100
00:50:33,073 --> 00:50:35,309
can also be asymmetrical.
1101
00:50:35,342 --> 00:50:40,814
♪
1102
00:50:40,848 --> 00:50:46,320
We exalt the architecture
and we protect it.
1103
00:50:46,353 --> 00:50:49,623
And the reason is because it's
pleasure inducing and that
1104
00:50:49,656 --> 00:50:53,594
pleasure inducement is caused
by the three-by-three pattern.
1105
00:50:55,329 --> 00:50:58,098
We are born looking
for this pattern
1106
00:50:58,131 --> 00:51:02,369
and we go to great lengths
to try to reconstruct it.
1107
00:51:02,402 --> 00:51:05,572
So when it's there,
we will relax.
1108
00:51:05,606 --> 00:51:09,409
When that main idea
is very clear
1109
00:51:09,443 --> 00:51:12,079
then everything else tends
to fall into. .
1110
00:51:12,112 --> 00:51:15,315
to place pretty easily
and harmoniously.
1111
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:17,517
And that doesn't mean
that there can't be
1112
00:51:17,551 --> 00:51:21,555
beautiful anomalies or
deviation within that pattern,
1113
00:51:21,588 --> 00:51:23,657
uh, because a lot of times
there are,
1114
00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:26,193
and actually you can celebrate
them more easily
1115
00:51:26,226 --> 00:51:28,595
if the foundation is solid.
1116
00:51:28,629 --> 00:51:32,699
Three-by-three pattern
can be used in any style.
1117
00:51:32,733 --> 00:51:35,435
Whether traditional,
neoclassical,
1118
00:51:35,469 --> 00:51:37,638
Georgian style or contemporary,
1119
00:51:37,671 --> 00:51:39,640
or deconstructivist,
1120
00:51:39,673 --> 00:51:44,544
the human brain is just simply
looking for the pattern.
1121
00:51:44,578 --> 00:51:47,247
I think there's genetic basis
1122
00:51:47,281 --> 00:51:49,616
to our ability
to recognize shapes.
1123
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:53,153
And I think the. . there was
a very famous experiment
1124
00:51:53,186 --> 00:51:57,357
from last century called
Lorenz looking at seagulls
1125
00:51:57,391 --> 00:51:59,226
and the way the newborn chick
1126
00:51:59,259 --> 00:52:00,827
could recognize
particular colors,
1127
00:52:00,861 --> 00:52:02,696
could recognize patterns,
could recognize the shape
1128
00:52:02,729 --> 00:52:05,365
of a hawk,
so we have a genetic basis
1129
00:52:05,399 --> 00:52:07,167
for shape recognition.
1130
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,869
When a child is born
1131
00:52:08,902 --> 00:52:12,306
65% of
their neuronal structure
1132
00:52:12,339 --> 00:52:15,509
is dedicated
to face recognition.
1133
00:52:15,542 --> 00:52:19,179
Darwin theorized that
a child has to find a face
1134
00:52:19,212 --> 00:52:21,148
in order to survive.
1135
00:52:21,181 --> 00:52:22,849
From some of our research,
1136
00:52:22,883 --> 00:52:26,386
we know that people are
attracted to symmetry.
1137
00:52:26,420 --> 00:52:28,855
In fact, symmetry
can sometimes trump
1138
00:52:28,889 --> 00:52:31,291
some of the other values
that we might manipulate.
1139
00:52:31,325 --> 00:52:34,394
It's more interesting
to understand the symmetry
1140
00:52:34,428 --> 00:52:37,664
as something of parts
that are balanced
1141
00:52:37,698 --> 00:52:39,766
from one part to another.
1142
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,735
And there are connections
between parts
1143
00:52:41,768 --> 00:52:44,438
and connection
between parts to the whole
1144
00:52:44,471 --> 00:52:48,775
so that the visual weight
of each single element
1145
00:52:48,809 --> 00:52:50,877
is contributing
to the composition
1146
00:52:50,911 --> 00:52:52,846
to give you
the sense of balance.
1147
00:52:52,879 --> 00:52:55,282
[man] There's something
called the figural primitive;
1148
00:52:55,315 --> 00:52:56,616
two dots for an eye,
1149
00:52:56,650 --> 00:52:58,218
a vertical line for a nose,
1150
00:52:58,251 --> 00:52:59,653
and a horizontal line
for a mouth.
1151
00:52:59,686 --> 00:53:01,855
We are born looking for that.
1152
00:53:01,888 --> 00:53:03,824
And it turns out we're looking
for it everywhere.
1153
00:53:03,857 --> 00:53:05,625
Our whole lives
we're looking for that.
1154
00:53:05,659 --> 00:53:07,828
There's a reason most old
buildings look face-like.
1155
00:53:07,861 --> 00:53:11,565
Because it turns out more
of the human brain is hardwired
1156
00:53:11,598 --> 00:53:15,435
to see and look for faces,
than most anything else.
1157
00:53:15,469 --> 00:53:17,337
We're face
a textbook a world.
1158
00:53:17,904 --> 00:53:21,675
So today you've got the chance
to draw the picture of a house.
1159
00:53:21,708 --> 00:53:24,811
You can use felt tips
or crayons,
1160
00:53:24,845 --> 00:53:26,613
it's up to you.
1161
00:53:26,647 --> 00:53:29,850
You can draw your house
however you want.
1162
00:53:29,883 --> 00:53:33,286
♪
1163
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,991
♪
1164
00:53:38,025 --> 00:53:41,628
Last year,
I gave 19 talks.
1165
00:53:41,661 --> 00:53:43,730
I said before each talk,
1166
00:53:43,764 --> 00:53:46,667
draw a house as if
you're a five-year-old.
1167
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:49,236
Everybody drew a square
1168
00:53:49,269 --> 00:53:51,438
often with a pitched roof,
they're not always,
1169
00:53:51,471 --> 00:53:53,440
and then two windows
that suggest eyes
1170
00:53:53,473 --> 00:53:56,476
and then a door
that looked like a mouth.
1171
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:58,211
I was like,
"What's going on here?"
1172
00:53:59,579 --> 00:54:00,781
They were drawing a face. "
1173
00:54:21,568 --> 00:54:24,771
The sociopolitical components
of architecture
1174
00:54:24,805 --> 00:54:26,907
historically, right,
1175
00:54:26,940 --> 00:54:30,677
and what they say and how they
may still be relevant today
1176
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:33,713
is something we cannot deny.
1177
00:54:33,747 --> 00:54:37,050
And so the urge to focus
1178
00:54:37,084 --> 00:54:40,587
more and more elemental
components of architecture.
1179
00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:43,890
And I think that's where
proportion comes into play.
1180
00:54:43,924 --> 00:54:47,961
Proportion is- um,
is one of the parameters
1181
00:54:47,994 --> 00:54:52,432
that has to do with
the understanding of
1182
00:54:52,466 --> 00:54:55,535
the built environment
from dimension and size
1183
00:54:55,569 --> 00:54:59,940
to when we perceive
the external environment.
1184
00:54:59,973 --> 00:55:05,912
We try to grasp or understand
some different components
1185
00:55:05,946 --> 00:55:08,315
of those elements.
1186
00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:11,451
And one of them is,
for sure, size and measure.
1187
00:55:11,485 --> 00:55:14,988
[Hans] The sensibilities of
how our bodies feel comfort
1188
00:55:15,021 --> 00:55:17,557
as we progress
through a building,
1189
00:55:17,591 --> 00:55:19,893
move in and out
from one space to the next,
1190
00:55:19,926 --> 00:55:22,596
that sense
of shifting perspective.
1191
00:55:22,629 --> 00:55:25,799
Those are things I think they
are more sensible for us
1192
00:55:25,832 --> 00:55:30,837
to lock in on, then actual
aesthetics of the past.
1193
00:55:30,871 --> 00:55:33,440
Today it's very difficult
to define proportion
1194
00:55:33,473 --> 00:55:36,977
because it's one of those words
with the. . the lost meaning.
1195
00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:40,614
We use that word but we don't
really know what it is.
1196
00:55:40,647 --> 00:55:42,949
But if you. .
we try to just go back
1197
00:55:42,983 --> 00:55:45,652
and give even just
a grammatical definition,
1198
00:55:45,685 --> 00:55:48,688
proportion is nothing
more than the relationship
1199
00:55:48,722 --> 00:55:52,692
one-dimension to another
in one single object.
1200
00:55:52,726 --> 00:55:55,128
[Hans] We see in our
own children how differently
1201
00:55:55,162 --> 00:55:57,130
they perceive
the environment today
1202
00:55:57,164 --> 00:56:00,133
as a result of the different
elements that their brains
1203
00:56:00,167 --> 00:56:02,969
are reacting to
and what somebody
1204
00:56:03,003 --> 00:56:04,538
may like and may not like.
1205
00:56:05,138 --> 00:56:07,641
What's appropriate and
what's inappropriate today,
1206
00:56:07,674 --> 00:56:11,511
whether it's with how we dress
to work or go to school,
1207
00:56:11,545 --> 00:56:14,014
but also what type of
architecture in its formality
1208
00:56:14,047 --> 00:56:16,116
or lack thereof is appropriate.
1209
00:56:16,149 --> 00:56:18,151
These things are so
dramatically shifting today
1210
00:56:18,185 --> 00:56:21,154
that we have to. .
we have to always be careful
1211
00:56:21,188 --> 00:56:23,456
about what we choose
to take from history
1212
00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:25,759
and apply it moving forward.
1213
00:56:25,792 --> 00:56:28,929
So what I'm trying to do
is to approach proportion
1214
00:56:28,962 --> 00:56:30,430
in a 3-dimensional way, right,
1215
00:56:30,463 --> 00:56:32,465
because space
is 3-dimensional.
1216
00:56:32,499 --> 00:56:35,669
But I need to add on the top
of that perspective distortion
1217
00:56:35,702 --> 00:56:39,406
because what happens in the
space is that we look at things
1218
00:56:39,439 --> 00:56:41,975
and they are constantly
distorted.
1219
00:56:42,676 --> 00:56:45,779
I'm using the blocks
which are the morphotheek.
1220
00:56:45,812 --> 00:56:48,114
Morphotheek
is made of 120 pieces,
1221
00:56:48,148 --> 00:56:51,651
and each of them has
a different proportion.
1222
00:56:51,685 --> 00:56:54,988
But when you start moving
those objects
1223
00:56:55,021 --> 00:56:58,625
in different angulations
you will see that
1224
00:56:58,658 --> 00:57:03,029
the object becomes less clear
to you in terms of proportions.
1225
00:57:03,063 --> 00:57:06,600
And that's what in this
specific moment I'm interested
1226
00:57:06,633 --> 00:57:09,703
in trying to understand
our cold place,
1227
00:57:09,736 --> 00:57:12,706
two objects in different
perspective or situation.
1228
00:57:12,739 --> 00:57:14,174
So let's see.
1229
00:57:14,207 --> 00:57:16,109
And now, the subjects
will react
1230
00:57:16,142 --> 00:57:19,846
in terms of discriminating
one proportion to another.
1231
00:57:19,879 --> 00:57:21,648
[Martha]
In addition
to proportion, there are
1232
00:57:21,681 --> 00:57:23,950
other mathematical
tools found in nature
1233
00:57:23,984 --> 00:57:26,453
that are often applied
to architecture.
1234
00:57:26,486 --> 00:57:29,456
The patterns in nature have
very specific characteristics,
1235
00:57:29,489 --> 00:57:31,658
have definitive number of
possible patterns
1236
00:57:31,691 --> 00:57:34,094
that are very few,
that we see in nature.
1237
00:57:34,127 --> 00:57:36,196
Fractals show up,
1238
00:57:36,229 --> 00:57:38,665
first of all,
everywhere we look.
1239
00:57:38,698 --> 00:57:40,600
Even if we look at our face,
eyelashes
1240
00:57:40,634 --> 00:57:42,669
are essentially a fractal.
It's the repetition
1241
00:57:42,702 --> 00:57:44,638
of something
that's beautiful.
1242
00:57:44,671 --> 00:57:47,941
[man] Fractals are one of the
patterns that we theorize
1243
00:57:47,974 --> 00:57:50,176
that mankind evolved with.
1244
00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:52,112
[man 2] Fractals
is repeating patterns.
1245
00:57:52,145 --> 00:57:54,881
We see them in cauliflower
and trees.
1246
00:57:54,914 --> 00:57:57,217
So the idea of
these naturally occurring
1247
00:57:57,250 --> 00:58:01,554
repeating patterns is something
that we are just drawn to.
1248
00:58:01,588 --> 00:58:03,823
[woman] Your brain
is organized as fractals,
1249
00:58:03,857 --> 00:58:05,525
neurons make fractals.
1250
00:58:05,558 --> 00:58:07,193
And they realized that you
couldn't have
1251
00:58:07,227 --> 00:58:09,496
the 100 billion neurons
that you have in your head
1252
00:58:09,529 --> 00:58:11,598
with the trillion connections
unless it was fractal.
1253
00:58:11,631 --> 00:58:13,066
No other geometric shape
1254
00:58:13,099 --> 00:58:14,734
would permit the amount
of connections.
1255
00:58:14,768 --> 00:58:17,704
[man 3] And so we theorize
that fractals
1256
00:58:17,737 --> 00:58:19,973
lead to a parasympathetic
reaction
1257
00:58:20,006 --> 00:58:25,512
because we understand that
it's safe and pleasurable.
1258
00:58:25,545 --> 00:58:29,215
[Nan] And I think that we
need to get back to that beauty
1259
00:58:29,249 --> 00:58:31,818
that is inherent in nature
1260
00:58:31,851 --> 00:58:34,087
and is part of nature's
intelligence
1261
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,924
to remind ourselves that
we too are part of nature.
1262
00:58:37,957 --> 00:58:40,193
[Nikos] Those organic forms
1263
00:58:40,226 --> 00:58:43,229
we unconsciously consider
beautiful.
1264
00:58:43,263 --> 00:58:45,665
We see the beauty in an insect
1265
00:58:45,699 --> 00:58:48,101
unless it's- it's a type of
insect that's gonna bite us.
1266
00:58:48,134 --> 00:58:51,137
We consider a lot of mammals
very beautiful,
1267
00:58:51,171 --> 00:58:54,207
even threatening animals;
lions and tigers,
1268
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,642
if they're in a cage.
1269
00:58:55,675 --> 00:58:56,876
[low growling]
1270
00:58:57,644 --> 00:58:59,746
Out of an infinite possibility
of geometries,
1271
00:58:59,779 --> 00:59:04,150
living things take only a very
small spectrum
1272
00:59:04,184 --> 00:59:07,087
of possible geometries.
This is incredible.
1273
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:12,292
The question about the
restorative properties
1274
00:59:12,325 --> 00:59:15,729
of nature is one
that many people believe
1275
00:59:15,762 --> 00:59:17,797
and have a strong intuition
about,
1276
00:59:17,831 --> 00:59:20,633
which is that
if we spend time in nature
1277
00:59:20,667 --> 00:59:24,838
that we feel calmer
and we feel more restored.
1278
00:59:24,871 --> 00:59:27,273
And as someone
who likes the wilderness,
1279
00:59:27,307 --> 00:59:29,175
I find it quite restorative.
1280
00:59:29,209 --> 00:59:31,711
And the kind of
nature-liking people vary.
1281
00:59:31,745 --> 00:59:35,181
For me, the desert
in the Southwest
1282
00:59:35,215 --> 00:59:37,751
are where
I feel the most at home.
1283
00:59:37,784 --> 00:59:41,621
I feel like, ah, like,
I can breathe over here.
1284
00:59:41,654 --> 00:59:43,990
It's, like, big open spaces,
clean lines.
1285
00:59:44,024 --> 00:59:46,893
Having said that, trying to get
1286
00:59:46,926 --> 00:59:51,264
decent scientific
evidence for that is very hard.
1287
00:59:51,297 --> 00:59:53,066
And this is where I think
1288
00:59:53,099 --> 00:59:55,602
people's backgrounds
might matter.
1289
00:59:55,635 --> 00:59:57,971
So if you're a child
who grew up
1290
00:59:58,004 --> 01:00:01,074
in an urban environment
like Philadelphia,
1291
01:00:01,107 --> 01:00:03,977
maybe nature is threatening,
it's scary,
1292
01:00:04,010 --> 01:00:06,613
like, you don't know what
creatures are out there.
1293
01:00:06,646 --> 01:00:09,949
Nature itself varies
considerably.
1294
01:00:09,983 --> 01:00:12,786
The built environments vary
considerably.
1295
01:00:12,819 --> 01:00:15,388
So if you actually wanted
to construct
1296
01:00:15,422 --> 01:00:17,991
an experiment to test
the hypothesis,
1297
01:00:18,024 --> 01:00:20,160
what are you comparing?
1298
01:00:20,193 --> 01:00:22,629
What kind of urban environment
are you comparing
1299
01:00:22,662 --> 01:00:24,731
to what kind
of natural environment?
1300
01:00:24,764 --> 01:00:27,267
And it becomes a very
complicated proposition.
1301
01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:29,235
[Nicolas] Street trees
are interesting one.
1302
01:00:29,269 --> 01:00:31,104
Street trees are no-brainer
at one level.
1303
01:00:31,137 --> 01:00:32,906
If in doubt,
plant street trees
1304
01:00:32,939 --> 01:00:35,408
is a good thing to say
to a city council.
1305
01:00:35,442 --> 01:00:37,410
Interestingly actually,
they're not statistically
1306
01:00:37,444 --> 01:00:39,913
a big differentiator
between the best
1307
01:00:39,946 --> 01:00:41,815
and slightly
less good areas because. .
1308
01:00:41,848 --> 01:00:45,084
they're not enough to save
a really bad place.
1309
01:00:45,118 --> 01:00:47,687
So if you've got
a really ugly streets
1310
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,722
whether you have too much space
to walk in,
1311
01:00:49,756 --> 01:00:51,691
ugly buildings,
and false traffic,
1312
01:00:51,724 --> 01:00:53,660
planting a bunch of trees isn't
necessarily gonna save it.
1313
01:00:53,693 --> 01:00:56,162
[Meredith] There's widely
diverse variables in nature,
1314
01:00:56,196 --> 01:00:58,231
but they're all
being attributed to
1315
01:00:58,264 --> 01:00:59,766
as if they were the same thing,
1316
01:00:59,799 --> 01:01:02,402
as if it was this common
stimulus nature.
1317
01:01:02,435 --> 01:01:05,004
The outcomes
are also very diverse,
1318
01:01:05,038 --> 01:01:07,006
but again, they're kinda
being lumped together
1319
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,175
as good, beneficial.
1320
01:01:09,209 --> 01:01:11,244
And I'm not demonizing nature.
1321
01:01:11,277 --> 01:01:15,849
The evidence is very robust
that nature is good for us.
1322
01:01:15,882 --> 01:01:17,984
But without understanding
1323
01:01:18,017 --> 01:01:22,222
what about nature
is causing a certain effect,
1324
01:01:22,255 --> 01:01:26,059
as designers we can't do a lot
with that information.
1325
01:01:26,092 --> 01:01:28,695
[Martha]
Today's architects
are taking it
1326
01:01:28,728 --> 01:01:30,396
upon themselves
to extend their education
1327
01:01:30,430 --> 01:01:33,099
and seek out new angles
to analyze their work.
1328
01:01:33,132 --> 01:01:35,802
Many professionals are
translating
1329
01:01:35,835 --> 01:01:39,839
their newly acquired knowledge
into the classroom.
1330
01:01:39,873 --> 01:01:42,809
But what I find is young people
are actually fascinated.
1331
01:01:42,842 --> 01:01:45,845
And they have no real biases
about architecture,
1332
01:01:45,879 --> 01:01:47,347
what it should look like,
really.
1333
01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:48,948
And they're just fascinated
about learning
1334
01:01:48,982 --> 01:01:50,350
and there's
an opportunity for them
1335
01:01:50,383 --> 01:01:52,418
to take the lead
and use this technology
1336
01:01:52,452 --> 01:01:54,220
to start to find
better environments.
1337
01:01:54,254 --> 01:01:56,322
I'm a dual degree student
between the schools
1338
01:01:56,356 --> 01:01:58,358
of architecture
and forestry at Yale.
1339
01:01:58,391 --> 01:01:59,959
So I'm really interested
in how this applies
1340
01:01:59,993 --> 01:02:02,061
to green architecture
in particular
1341
01:02:02,095 --> 01:02:04,230
and how these new findings from
neuroscience might inform,
1342
01:02:04,264 --> 01:02:07,000
um, the future of green design.
1343
01:02:07,033 --> 01:02:12,138
Neuroscience is one way to
help articulate students
1344
01:02:12,171 --> 01:02:13,940
about what
great responsibility
1345
01:02:13,973 --> 01:02:16,276
they will have in
their future professions
1346
01:02:16,309 --> 01:02:19,312
for the well-being of people
who use their buildings,
1347
01:02:19,345 --> 01:02:22,382
who walk by them or spend hours
and hours, uh, years,
1348
01:02:22,415 --> 01:02:26,052
er, within the- the framework
of- of their spaces.
1349
01:02:26,085 --> 01:02:29,489
And so the more
we can introduce
1350
01:02:29,522 --> 01:02:31,991
real-time ways of measuring
response, right?
1351
01:02:32,025 --> 01:02:34,227
So VR, for example, right?
1352
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:37,196
Is a very quick way in which
you can start to help students
1353
01:02:37,230 --> 01:02:40,233
understand
what they've designed
1354
01:02:40,266 --> 01:02:43,202
as they virtually move
through the space and say,
1355
01:02:43,236 --> 01:02:45,038
"Oh, my gosh,
this is what I wanted,"
1356
01:02:45,071 --> 01:02:47,206
or, "Oh, my gosh,
I didn't realize,"
1357
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,276
or "Oh my word, that's
terrible. I need to redo this. "
1358
01:02:50,310 --> 01:02:52,912
It's not just about diversity
and inclusion
1359
01:02:52,946 --> 01:02:55,014
of different kinds of people,
1360
01:02:55,048 --> 01:02:57,250
and their different traditions
and ways of seeing the world,
1361
01:02:57,283 --> 01:02:59,919
it's also about diversity
and inclusion
1362
01:02:59,953 --> 01:03:02,789
of intellectual
and artistic traditions,
1363
01:03:02,822 --> 01:03:06,960
and seeing
the value in each one
1364
01:03:06,993 --> 01:03:10,363
and thereby be innovative
in a positive way,
1365
01:03:10,396 --> 01:03:13,333
in a way
that supports humanity,
1366
01:03:13,366 --> 01:03:15,835
that inspires humanity,
1367
01:03:15,868 --> 01:03:18,504
and allows us to continue
to thrive.
1368
01:03:20,907 --> 01:03:22,542
So the way
that I met Dr. Chatterjee
1369
01:03:22,575 --> 01:03:25,478
was actually through my mom.
1370
01:03:25,511 --> 01:03:32,051
I had realized that something
deeper was going on with her,
1371
01:03:32,085 --> 01:03:34,053
potentially neurological.
1372
01:03:34,087 --> 01:03:35,822
She kept asking me the same
questions over and over.
1373
01:03:35,855 --> 01:03:38,558
So I connected
with Dr. Chatterjee,
1374
01:03:38,591 --> 01:03:40,426
and he contacted us and said,
1375
01:03:40,460 --> 01:03:42,195
"You need to come back
for follow-up. "
1376
01:03:42,228 --> 01:03:44,130
And at
that follow-up appointment,
1377
01:03:44,163 --> 01:03:47,533
he diagnosed my mom with
what we found out to be
1378
01:03:47,567 --> 01:03:49,869
early onset Alzheimer's.
1379
01:03:49,902 --> 01:03:52,905
My passion was always within
the healthcare industry
1380
01:03:52,939 --> 01:03:56,009
and I thought, what a wonderful
way to honor my mom.
1381
01:03:56,042 --> 01:03:58,444
Let's build a memory center
1382
01:03:58,478 --> 01:04:00,480
and let's take it
a step further
1383
01:04:00,513 --> 01:04:02,949
and make it this really
idiosyncratic place
1384
01:04:02,982 --> 01:04:04,951
where it's purpose-built.
1385
01:04:04,984 --> 01:04:07,120
We're thinking more about
design.
1386
01:04:07,153 --> 01:04:09,589
We're thinking more about the
experience for the individual
1387
01:04:09,622 --> 01:04:11,858
while- while they're there
and we're thinking about
1388
01:04:11,891 --> 01:04:14,160
the experience for the family
while they're there also.
1389
01:04:14,193 --> 01:04:17,296
And I just found myself in this
really unique opportunity
1390
01:04:17,330 --> 01:04:19,432
where I could create
my own space
1391
01:04:19,465 --> 01:04:23,202
and do something really
im- impactful and meaningful.
1392
01:04:23,236 --> 01:04:24,971
An access point.
1393
01:04:25,004 --> 01:04:26,939
And the you can even. .
you can even put. .
1394
01:04:26,973 --> 01:04:29,642
It grew into well, what can
we do with Dr. Chatterjee,
1395
01:04:29,676 --> 01:04:32,979
beyond just the provision
of care for my mom?
1396
01:04:33,012 --> 01:04:35,415
We're not worried
about them getting lost,
1397
01:04:35,448 --> 01:04:37,884
that they'd always
get oriented back.
1398
01:04:37,917 --> 01:04:41,354
They can keep walking,
which is really nice. I think. .
1399
01:04:41,387 --> 01:04:43,423
He was really intrigued
by this idea of building
1400
01:04:43,456 --> 01:04:45,558
from the ground-up,
a memory care enter
1401
01:04:45,591 --> 01:04:47,593
and what that would
actually look like.
1402
01:04:47,627 --> 01:04:50,163
I don't think either of us
really knew.
1403
01:04:50,196 --> 01:04:53,099
I've added EwingCole
and decided to bring them on.
1404
01:04:53,132 --> 01:04:54,967
And the project's evolved
from there
1405
01:04:55,001 --> 01:04:56,536
and morphed into what it
is today.
1406
01:04:56,569 --> 01:04:59,472
Working with a neuroscientist
is new to me.
1407
01:04:59,505 --> 01:05:02,575
Having somebody like
Dr. Chatterjee who. .
1408
01:05:02,608 --> 01:05:05,344
who, you know, understands
the nuances of space
1409
01:05:05,378 --> 01:05:08,614
and the impact to memory,
uh, it's just incredible.
1410
01:05:08,648 --> 01:05:10,616
To get a further level
of detail
1411
01:05:10,650 --> 01:05:12,518
and understanding
from him,
1412
01:05:12,552 --> 01:05:15,388
we can really create specific
instances of moments
1413
01:05:15,421 --> 01:05:17,290
that will help these people
1414
01:05:17,323 --> 01:05:20,193
that are impacted daily
with loss of memory.
1415
01:05:20,226 --> 01:05:22,128
And we will actually
have a research office
1416
01:05:22,161 --> 01:05:24,163
and a bedroom there
1417
01:05:24,197 --> 01:05:27,433
so that if someone from my lab
wants to be there for a week,
1418
01:05:27,467 --> 01:05:29,469
we can do that.
1419
01:05:29,502 --> 01:05:35,041
What we're thinking
of doing is, uh, collecting
1420
01:05:35,074 --> 01:05:39,212
quality of life measures
on the residents there,
1421
01:05:39,245 --> 01:05:41,414
but also two other things,
1422
01:05:41,447 --> 01:05:44,684
which is quality of life
measures on the caregivers
1423
01:05:44,717 --> 01:05:48,187
that how do people feel about
having their loved one
1424
01:05:48,221 --> 01:05:50,223
be in this place.
1425
01:05:50,256 --> 01:05:52,525
For the residents,
we're always thinking about
1426
01:05:52,558 --> 01:05:57,230
safety is paramount.
But then beyond that,
1427
01:05:57,263 --> 01:06:01,467
how can they live life
in a more homey setting.
1428
01:06:01,501 --> 01:06:04,137
Something that feels less
institutional, more organic,
1429
01:06:04,170 --> 01:06:06,973
more connected
with the world around them,
1430
01:06:07,006 --> 01:06:09,642
and allows them
to make decisions
1431
01:06:09,675 --> 01:06:11,677
without really
consciously knowing
1432
01:06:11,711 --> 01:06:13,446
they're making the decisions.
1433
01:06:13,479 --> 01:06:16,682
We might want to look
at their activity.
1434
01:06:16,716 --> 01:06:19,752
We know that movement
is good for people.
1435
01:06:19,786 --> 01:06:21,087
How much are they moving?
1436
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,688
Especially in the setting
1437
01:06:22,722 --> 01:06:24,557
where they have free range
of the place, right?
1438
01:06:24,590 --> 01:06:27,126
We're- we're not gonna
have any barriers for them.
1439
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,594
What is the impact of that?
1440
01:06:28,628 --> 01:06:31,097
And to be honest,
there may be other things
1441
01:06:31,130 --> 01:06:32,632
that we haven't
even thought about
1442
01:06:32,665 --> 01:06:35,301
because there
is no precedent for this.
1443
01:06:35,334 --> 01:06:37,403
And we're taking somebody
out of their homes.
1444
01:06:37,436 --> 01:06:41,140
So how do we make them familiar
with- with their new house.
1445
01:06:41,174 --> 01:06:42,642
The plan is kind of derived
1446
01:06:42,675 --> 01:06:45,645
from that notion of
a central courtyard
1447
01:06:45,678 --> 01:06:47,580
and organizing it around it.
1448
01:06:47,613 --> 01:06:50,249
But doing it in a way that
if somebody could get lost
1449
01:06:50,283 --> 01:06:51,784
but always find their way back.
1450
01:06:51,818 --> 01:06:54,053
A lot of interest
has been within that.
1451
01:06:54,086 --> 01:06:56,155
The internal circulation
of the courtyard
1452
01:06:56,189 --> 01:06:59,759
so that it gives people a place
to move and kind of wander,
1453
01:06:59,792 --> 01:07:02,128
get lost,
but then come back home.
1454
01:07:02,161 --> 01:07:04,263
So when I bring
Dr. Chatterjee in,
1455
01:07:04,297 --> 01:07:07,667
when I bring Kevin in,
or these guys at EwingCole,
1456
01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:11,270
or even the engineer, everybody
has a different opinion.
1457
01:07:11,304 --> 01:07:14,440
So listen to them,
integrate them,
1458
01:07:14,473 --> 01:07:16,509
let everybody collaborate,
1459
01:07:16,542 --> 01:07:19,212
and you end up with something
really beautiful at the end.
1460
01:07:20,346 --> 01:07:22,381
[Martha]
Technology
is quickly developing,
1461
01:07:22,415 --> 01:07:24,317
helping humans
to understand the brain
1462
01:07:24,350 --> 01:07:26,519
as they never have before.
1463
01:07:26,552 --> 01:07:29,622
Though the marriage of
architecture and neuroscience
1464
01:07:29,655 --> 01:07:32,291
is just emerging,
these new explorations
1465
01:07:32,325 --> 01:07:36,762
allow the start of
a beautiful conversation.
1466
01:07:36,796 --> 01:07:38,631
Well, there's this
paradigm shift happening.
1467
01:07:38,664 --> 01:07:40,700
It is happening,
about really understanding
1468
01:07:40,733 --> 01:07:42,335
how humans work
and what we need,
1469
01:07:42,368 --> 01:07:44,303
and it's going
to impact architecture.
1470
01:07:44,337 --> 01:07:47,240
I think we've always known
that architecture
1471
01:07:47,273 --> 01:07:52,345
has some strong relationship
with people's well-being.
1472
01:07:52,378 --> 01:07:55,248
I think we understood
intuitively
1473
01:07:55,281 --> 01:07:57,316
the importance of beauty
1474
01:07:57,350 --> 01:08:00,419
before we had neuroscience
to prove it.
1475
01:08:00,453 --> 01:08:03,823
But what's helpful now
is that for the skeptics
1476
01:08:03,856 --> 01:08:07,193
and for the people who need
science to prove something,
1477
01:08:07,226 --> 01:08:10,263
it's almost like we're evolving
to this higher level.
1478
01:08:10,296 --> 01:08:11,731
The urban environment matters
1479
01:08:11,764 --> 01:08:13,666
for our mental
and physical health.
1480
01:08:13,699 --> 01:08:16,535
We need to empirically
1481
01:08:16,569 --> 01:08:18,271
care about that
and understand about.
1482
01:08:18,304 --> 01:08:20,473
And the exciting thing is
we are starting now
1483
01:08:20,506 --> 01:08:22,208
to have that public debate.
1484
01:08:22,241 --> 01:08:24,777
I think all of that,
as exciting as it is,
1485
01:08:24,810 --> 01:08:28,881
is still at a stage where
it's very much in its infancy.
1486
01:08:28,915 --> 01:08:30,583
There is a tendency for
1487
01:08:30,616 --> 01:08:33,552
the promise of biometrics
to be over-hyped,
1488
01:08:33,586 --> 01:08:36,188
that we might think
that it's simple and easy
1489
01:08:36,222 --> 01:08:38,424
because of the ubiquitous
availability
1490
01:08:38,457 --> 01:08:40,526
of simple technology
for measuring these values,
1491
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,528
that it might work.
1492
01:08:42,561 --> 01:08:45,398
What we know from having worked
with this kind of equipment
1493
01:08:45,431 --> 01:08:47,767
for about 10 years,
is that there's a glimmering
1494
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,369
of a possibility that
it might actually
1495
01:08:50,403 --> 01:08:52,204
turn out to be useful
to help us
1496
01:08:52,238 --> 01:08:54,674
characterize the human
response to a setting.
1497
01:08:54,707 --> 01:08:57,176
But in most respects
we're not there yet,
1498
01:08:57,209 --> 01:09:00,379
but we're trying anyway because
you have to start somewhere.
1499
01:09:00,413 --> 01:09:03,349
I think it's important
to say that when you decide
1500
01:09:03,382 --> 01:09:05,651
to work in between neuroscience
and architecture,
1501
01:09:05,685 --> 01:09:07,420
and you already want to work
1502
01:09:07,453 --> 01:09:10,456
in the middle
of the two fields of studies,
1503
01:09:10,489 --> 01:09:12,425
you really need to accept
at one point
1504
01:09:12,458 --> 01:09:14,360
that you need
to learn something, uh,
1505
01:09:14,393 --> 01:09:15,861
some new body of knowledge
1506
01:09:15,895 --> 01:09:18,197
that comes from neuroscience
in my case.
1507
01:09:18,230 --> 01:09:21,467
We're at this evolutionary
point in our history
1508
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:24,870
where as a civilization,
1509
01:09:24,904 --> 01:09:29,241
we are asking those deeper
moral and ethical questions.
1510
01:09:29,275 --> 01:09:32,712
We really are trying to get
beyond the silos
1511
01:09:32,745 --> 01:09:34,547
of our disciplines.
1512
01:09:34,580 --> 01:09:36,816
To what extent can findings
in my field
1513
01:09:36,849 --> 01:09:41,487
contribute to the design
of places that can actually
1514
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,756
enhance psychological
sustainability
1515
01:09:43,789 --> 01:09:46,459
while supporting
high density?
1516
01:09:46,492 --> 01:09:47,893
We need to respond
to the people
1517
01:09:47,927 --> 01:09:50,329
who are going to be using
these places.
1518
01:09:50,363 --> 01:09:52,198
And we need to study
these people
1519
01:09:52,231 --> 01:09:55,468
and we need to analyze
what's going on in their head.
1520
01:09:55,501 --> 01:09:57,303
And we needed to make that
1521
01:09:57,336 --> 01:09:59,271
a big part of the design
process going forward.
1522
01:09:59,305 --> 01:10:01,974
And we need to take the
responsibility as architects
1523
01:10:02,008 --> 01:10:03,976
who are willing to work
with neuroscience
1524
01:10:04,010 --> 01:10:06,245
and architecture
to really work in the middle.
1525
01:10:06,278 --> 01:10:10,416
We should not pretend
to wait for neuroscience
1526
01:10:10,449 --> 01:10:12,451
to give us answers.
1527
01:10:12,485 --> 01:10:17,223
Clearly, architecture has
ramifications on our health.
1528
01:10:17,256 --> 01:10:20,659
And we need to understand
what are the forms,
1529
01:10:20,693 --> 01:10:22,361
what are the ideas,
1530
01:10:22,395 --> 01:10:24,730
what are
the repetitive patterns
1531
01:10:24,764 --> 01:10:26,866
that support proper health
and well-being?
1532
01:10:28,734 --> 01:10:32,805
My theory is that if you design
to health and well-being
1533
01:10:32,838 --> 01:10:34,740
and you do it properly,
1534
01:10:34,774 --> 01:10:37,943
then it will lead to
a recognition of beauty.
1535
01:10:37,977 --> 01:10:41,514
We're doing humanity
a disservice,
1536
01:10:41,547 --> 01:10:43,949
particularly in a time
where we have
1537
01:10:43,983 --> 01:10:46,252
all of the information
we need
1538
01:10:46,285 --> 01:10:50,990
to prove that these things
we're creating
1539
01:10:51,023 --> 01:10:53,793
directly impact how we feel,
1540
01:10:53,826 --> 01:10:56,295
how we eat, how we read.
1541
01:10:56,328 --> 01:10:58,330
It's not just
creating something,
1542
01:11:00,032 --> 01:11:03,436
it's doing a service
for people.
1543
01:11:03,469 --> 01:11:05,905
You respond to the patterns
and designing
1544
01:11:05,938 --> 01:11:10,509
in the patterns through
your visceral responses,
1545
01:11:10,543 --> 01:11:14,680
your. . your biological
responses to the possibilities
1546
01:11:14,713 --> 01:11:17,716
offered by designing using
the patterns.
1547
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:20,986
And the result is
a wonderful experience
1548
01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:23,322
that you feel biologically.
1549
01:11:23,355 --> 01:11:25,524
You feel subconsciously.
1550
01:11:25,558 --> 01:11:27,560
This has nothing to do
with style
1551
01:11:27,593 --> 01:11:29,762
because our subliminal brain
1552
01:11:29,795 --> 01:11:32,698
doesn't care what style
we're working on.
1553
01:11:32,731 --> 01:11:34,567
Its only cares is,
1554
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,405
is it a pattern that will
generate a pleasure response?
1555
01:11:39,438 --> 01:11:41,941
[Meredith] One of the things
I hear from designers
1556
01:11:41,974 --> 01:11:44,810
since I got into this field
is this concern
1557
01:11:44,844 --> 01:11:47,980
that the research
is gonna dominate
1558
01:11:48,013 --> 01:11:51,450
to the point that design
becomes prescriptive,
1559
01:11:51,484 --> 01:11:55,354
and they won't have that
ability to be creative
1560
01:11:55,387 --> 01:11:58,891
or to have
the freedom to design.
1561
01:11:58,924 --> 01:12:01,360
[Colin] It's a really
complicated question
1562
01:12:01,393 --> 01:12:04,864
as to how far one should take
evidence that pertains
1563
01:12:04,897 --> 01:12:08,667
to people's innate or intrinsic
responses to environments
1564
01:12:08,701 --> 01:12:13,405
with respect to codifying
the principles of good design.
1565
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,374
So if, for example,
1566
01:12:15,407 --> 01:12:19,345
it's discovered that. . that
round doors are the best doors
1567
01:12:19,378 --> 01:12:23,549
for psychology and doesn't make
sense to make code and say,
1568
01:12:23,582 --> 01:12:26,385
"Okay, from here on,
all doors shall be round. "
1569
01:12:26,418 --> 01:12:27,820
There are
so many different ways
1570
01:12:27,853 --> 01:12:30,089
to think
about that question.
1571
01:12:30,122 --> 01:12:32,024
As a scientist, I might say,
well, of course,
1572
01:12:32,057 --> 01:12:35,694
if I discover that round doors
are the best doors
1573
01:12:35,728 --> 01:12:38,697
for human psychology,
then why on Earth not?
1574
01:12:38,731 --> 01:12:41,600
Why on Earth not do that and
always have round doors?
1575
01:12:41,634 --> 01:12:44,103
Further to that argument,
I might also say that
1576
01:12:44,136 --> 01:12:46,472
if you think about
what a building is,
1577
01:12:46,505 --> 01:12:49,608
the objection to having
round doors forevermore
1578
01:12:49,642 --> 01:12:52,745
might be that codifying
a principle like that
1579
01:12:52,778 --> 01:12:55,147
takes away from the creativity
of the designer
1580
01:12:55,181 --> 01:12:57,449
to make whatever design
they want.
1581
01:12:57,483 --> 01:12:58,951
The counter to that is,
1582
01:12:58,984 --> 01:13:00,886
although building
may be a piece of art,
1583
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,055
a building is not
just a piece of art,
1584
01:13:03,088 --> 01:13:06,625
it's a piece of art that needs
to be used for humans.
1585
01:13:06,659 --> 01:13:09,495
There's a social responsibility
to design a building
1586
01:13:09,528 --> 01:13:11,630
in such a way
that it's good for us.
1587
01:13:11,664 --> 01:13:14,567
But overlaid on that is
so much variability
1588
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,702
that has to do with
experience and culture
1589
01:13:16,735 --> 01:13:18,103
that you could never come up
1590
01:13:18,137 --> 01:13:20,406
with a way of codifying
all of that.
1591
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,174
Um, nor would you want to.
1592
01:13:22,208 --> 01:13:25,544
Um, the richness of
architectural experiences
1593
01:13:25,578 --> 01:13:28,581
that we have to allow
that kind of variability.
1594
01:13:28,614 --> 01:13:31,083
We have to allow the artistic
impulse as well as
1595
01:13:31,116 --> 01:13:33,118
having the grounding
in good science
1596
01:13:33,152 --> 01:13:35,487
to build
a successful building.
1597
01:13:35,521 --> 01:13:40,059
I think it would be a mistake
to think that neuroscience,
1598
01:13:40,092 --> 01:13:45,064
the kind of research I do
is going to tell architects
1599
01:13:45,097 --> 01:13:47,600
what the right answer is,
right?
1600
01:13:47,633 --> 01:13:50,970
That I think would be
just a. . a mistake
1601
01:13:51,003 --> 01:13:53,038
to even think about it
that way.
1602
01:13:53,072 --> 01:13:58,077
However, I think what we might
bring to the table,
1603
01:13:58,110 --> 01:14:01,080
uh, for example, is, uh,
1604
01:14:01,113 --> 01:14:03,882
what our very early
research suggests is
1605
01:14:03,916 --> 01:14:05,618
that there are
these three-dimensions,
1606
01:14:05,651 --> 01:14:09,488
coherence, fascination,
and homeliness
1607
01:14:09,521 --> 01:14:11,457
that we think
varies independently,
1608
01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:14,093
that we have some evidence
that our brain is responsive
1609
01:14:14,126 --> 01:14:15,928
to these three parameters.
1610
01:14:15,961 --> 01:14:17,763
When you're
designing something,
1611
01:14:17,796 --> 01:14:19,832
you should take those
into consideration.
1612
01:14:19,865 --> 01:14:23,969
I think the idea is that we can
maybe offer some principles
1613
01:14:24,003 --> 01:14:28,474
that then becomes part
of the architect's toolkit
1614
01:14:28,507 --> 01:14:30,609
that they can then
choose to use
1615
01:14:30,643 --> 01:14:32,611
based on what they
are trying to accomplish.
1616
01:14:32,645 --> 01:14:36,048
What is important is really
trying to understand, uh,
1617
01:14:36,081 --> 01:14:42,521
how neuroscience in the. . in
the specific case can help us
1618
01:14:42,554 --> 01:14:45,824
to be more aware of
what are the necessities
1619
01:14:45,858 --> 01:14:47,593
all by this human beings.
1620
01:14:47,626 --> 01:14:49,929
[man] Anybody who's
in a design profession,
1621
01:14:49,962 --> 01:14:52,197
whether it's architecture,
urban planning,
1622
01:14:52,231 --> 01:14:54,934
urban design should
be quite familiar
1623
01:14:54,967 --> 01:14:57,836
with a lot of the ideas
that we've been discussing.
1624
01:14:57,870 --> 01:14:59,738
I think
there's rising awareness
1625
01:14:59,772 --> 01:15:02,007
of the importance
of this stuff.
1626
01:15:02,041 --> 01:15:04,677
It's a game changer
for the profession
1627
01:15:04,710 --> 01:15:06,278
and for our communities.
1628
01:15:06,312 --> 01:15:08,547
And the quantification
that neuroscience offers,
1629
01:15:08,580 --> 01:15:11,884
I think is- is here to stay
for architecture.
1630
01:15:11,917 --> 01:15:14,953
We are at a point where
we can't remain in our silos.
1631
01:15:14,987 --> 01:15:16,889
We need
to have expert knowledge
1632
01:15:16,922 --> 01:15:18,824
as designers,
as architects,
1633
01:15:18,857 --> 01:15:22,695
but we also need to work
together with other people
1634
01:15:22,728 --> 01:15:24,163
who have the expert knowledge
1635
01:15:24,196 --> 01:15:26,165
in their field
and in neuroscience,
1636
01:15:26,198 --> 01:15:28,600
in cognitive science,
in computer science.
1637
01:15:28,634 --> 01:15:32,871
It is important to move
past neuroscience
1638
01:15:32,905 --> 01:15:36,275
and architecture to
neuroscience of architecture.
1639
01:15:36,308 --> 01:15:39,778
So I think
whereas we get better
1640
01:15:39,812 --> 01:15:42,281
at understanding
those neuro-signals,
1641
01:15:42,314 --> 01:15:45,617
the goal is that
we will be able to then,
1642
01:15:45,651 --> 01:15:47,953
uh, start to do experiments
in the field. Right?
1643
01:15:47,987 --> 01:15:51,690
You say, "Okay, someone
walks into a gaudy cathedral,
1644
01:15:51,724 --> 01:15:54,126
what are the neural signals
that are coming out of that?"
1645
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:56,295
And that's something
we have not been able to do,
1646
01:15:56,328 --> 01:15:58,697
but hopefully,
in the next five years,
1647
01:15:58,731 --> 01:16:01,100
we'll become part
of our armamentarium.
1648
01:16:01,133 --> 01:16:05,270
It really is, I think,
our mandate
1649
01:16:05,304 --> 01:16:10,743
and our privilege to intervene
in the built environment
1650
01:16:10,776 --> 01:16:14,179
in a way that supports
people to thrive.
1651
01:16:14,213 --> 01:16:16,081
Not only to survive.
1652
01:16:16,115 --> 01:16:18,050
[Colin] It's important
to build for people
1653
01:16:18,083 --> 01:16:21,220
because what else is the built
environment for
1654
01:16:21,253 --> 01:16:23,355
other than to support
the activities
1655
01:16:23,389 --> 01:16:27,059
and emotional lives
and successes of human beings.
1656
01:16:27,092 --> 01:16:28,994
What else is there?
1657
01:16:29,028 --> 01:16:31,263
[Nikos] The tipping point
will occur
1658
01:16:31,296 --> 01:16:34,199
when a client goes to an
architect and they will say,
1659
01:16:34,233 --> 01:16:37,770
"I heard about this biophilic
design and neuroscience
1660
01:16:37,803 --> 01:16:39,104
and patterns
from somewhere I read
1661
01:16:39,138 --> 01:16:41,173
on the Internet,
can you do it?"
1662
01:16:41,206 --> 01:16:43,275
[woman] There's this paradigm
shift in understanding
1663
01:16:43,308 --> 01:16:45,077
that we now have the tools to
really see
1664
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:48,847
how things impact us,
how buildings impact us,
1665
01:16:48,881 --> 01:16:51,183
and we'd be foolish
not to look at.
1666
01:16:51,216 --> 01:16:54,353
It is the same as hearing
a great piece of music
1667
01:16:54,386 --> 01:16:56,955
or going into a museum
and looking at great art,
1668
01:16:56,989 --> 01:16:59,992
I have the same gratitude
1669
01:17:00,025 --> 01:17:05,164
and extraordinary moment
of appreciation for beauty
1670
01:17:05,197 --> 01:17:07,866
that I have when I'm
in a beautiful building.
1671
01:17:10,302 --> 01:17:12,671
[woman] It has to work,
it has to support health,
1672
01:17:12,704 --> 01:17:14,173
has to support well-being,
1673
01:17:14,206 --> 01:17:15,974
but also has to be loved
and desired
1674
01:17:16,008 --> 01:17:19,178
by its users
and then has to be beautiful.
1675
01:17:19,211 --> 01:17:24,950
♪
1676
01:17:24,983 --> 01:17:26,985
♪
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