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{\an8}SUNNY: Precious died very soon
after your last meeting.
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{\an8}Is there anything
that you can tell us
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{\an8}that would help us with that?
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{\an8}No, sorry.
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{\an8}My sense is there's more to that
than he's admitting.
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{\an8}He left because
of some inappropriate photos
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{\an8}he took of a colleague.
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Do you wanna tell me why?
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He said that
you and he were finished.
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Here we are, nine months on,
with no hint of a wedding in sight.
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Precious was a member of a cult -
The Family Of Blessed Light.
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See what you can find out
about them. On it.
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You got a lot to lose, man.
Who are you really, Joseph?
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I can't work like this.
This is not who I am, or how I work.
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Let's reset.
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If I were to decide
to bring things forward,
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how much notice would you need?
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MUSIC: 'All We Do'
by Oh Wonder
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{\an8}# All we do is hide away
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{\an8}# All we do is
All we do is hide away
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{\an8}# All we do is lie in wait
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{\an8}# All we do is
All we do is lie in wait
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{\an8}# I've been upside down
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{\an8}# I don't want to be
The right way round
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{\an8}# Can't find paradise
On the ground. #
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CHILDREN PLAYING
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DOG BARKING
IN THE DISTANCE
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CAR DOOR CLOSES
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Hi. This is Llagavelly Farm?
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It is. How can I help you?
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DS Murray Boulting.
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Metropolitan Police.
I'm looking for David Bell.
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What is it you need to know?
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Maybe I can help?
Is he here?
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If you'd like to follow me.
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You're not 21 any more, Tony Hume.
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SHE SIGHS
You need to slow down.
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That was me slowing down.
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A boozy break from work.
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Well, exactly.
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You shouldn't need a break from work
because you shouldn't be working.
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What are you even
still trying to prove?
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I don't know.
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I just know the older I get,
the more I see the mistakes.
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The things I didn't achieve.
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The wrongs I did.
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Oh, what wrongs?
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You haven't done any wrongs.
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Not proper ones, anyway.
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Well, I have, love.
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Decades of them.
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You did what you thought was
the right thing at the time and...
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Not just politics.
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There were other things I never...
I don't want to hear, Tony.
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We all have things
we wish we'd done differently.
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That's life.
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We move on.
We don't live in the past.
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SIGHS
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So, is this anything to do
with Precious Falade?
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The only trouble we ever had here
was with Precious.
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We're all sinners, right?
But Precious...
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What? "Thou shalt have
no other gods before me."
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I'm not with you.
Mammon, DS Boulting.
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That's who she betrayed him for.
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God of money.
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Right.
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She was 15 when he got her pregnant.
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He was 42, your dear leader.
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He's right there.
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SIGHS
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He was here for a couple of nights,
and then he left.
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Have you tried his work?
Yeah. They said he was off sick.
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Oh.
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He's in there, isn't he?
Jess, he's not.
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Steve, are you in there?
Please...
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If he's in there, Nick,
I swear to f...
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Jess... calm down.
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I am calm. Totally calm.
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Did he tell you
he was fucking my sister?
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Just in case you were thinking
of standing up for him.
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He was what?
Just get him to call me.
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CAR BEEPS
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HE SIGHS
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You need to leave.
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CAR BEEPS
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I thought I'd wait.
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I thought I owed you that.
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You owe me nothing.
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So, what was it...
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when you asked me
to marry you that night?
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A genuine proposal.
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Really?
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Completely.
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Because, sitting here, right now...
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..it slightly feels like
maybe it was just...
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because you were so lost.
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No.
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No. At the time, it...
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..it felt utterly genuine.
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"At the time".
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And now?
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I don't know what's going on, Sal.
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I'm as thrown as you are.
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About where we are. Where I am.
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I feel...
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..so stuck.
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And... lost.
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Yeah.
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HE SIGHS
Now, certainly.
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And almost the unkindest cut of all
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is that's the most you've said to me
about it in nine months.
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Because I...
I felt you were jealous.
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Right.
Which, as I said, I completely get.
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So... listen.
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Let's not make any decisions
right now.
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But I do need to tell you
how I'm feeling.
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Of course.
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And how I'm feeling is that,
actually, with time,
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I think we could probably
ride this out.
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Probably.
Definitely.
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Except, erm...
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..then I got pregnant.
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And it made me realise
how much I do actually want a baby.
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And how much you don't.
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And that's quite a big thing.
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So I'm gonna go
and stay with my mum.
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We can keep talking, but...
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..I need a break,
to have a bit of a think.
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Of course.
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I'm... so, so sorry, my love.
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Yeah. Me too.
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DOOR OPENS,
CLOSES
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SIGHS
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RINGING TONE
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'Hi, this is Karol,
leave a message.'
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PHONE BEEPS
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Hi, Karol,
this is DS Frances Lingley again.
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Appreciate it
if you could return my call.
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My colleague DI Khan and I
need to speak with you
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following your earlier interview.
Call me back ASAP, please.
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Bailed?
'Last night.'
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Had some posh lawyer
on his case, apparently.
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OK, er... and to his home address?
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'Hang on. Let me check.'
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Joseph Bell's
apparently been bailed.
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So I'm thinking
if we go to his flat,
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then we might need firearms support?
Oh...
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You wanna call the boss?
Which one?
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Yeah, no,
better to be safe than sorry.
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Yeah, I'll put a call in to TFC.
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OK, thanks, Fran.
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TAPPING ON PHONE
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Hey.
Hey, Sunny.
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How you doing?
Er...
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Dreadful.
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Ah.
You?
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My partner left last night,
so, er, same.
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Crap. I'm sorry.
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Well, how about we distract
ourselves with some work?
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I like it.
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Does anyone call you Jessie?
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James, as in Jessie...?
Yeah, no, no. No.
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I get the reference.
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On account of everyone I have met
making the exact same joke.
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Oh, sorry.
The thought just occurred to me.
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Jesus! We're in worse bloody trouble
than I thought.
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HE CHUCKLES
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Time to go.
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Where we going again?
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Just away from London for now.
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Right.
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And you don't need to worry
about money, babe.
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Money ain't gonna be a problem...
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DOOR BURSTS OPEN
Armed police!
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Armed police,
face down on the floor, now!
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Put your hands on your head.
Hands behind your head!
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Put your hands on your head.
Stay there!
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Bedroom clear!
Kitchen clear!
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That's my stuff, man,
my personal stuff.
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I never stole none of that, bro,
so look after it, yeah,
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or I'll fuck you up.
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A sugar daddy?
That was Niamh's description.
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Any name?
Just said he was an older man.
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So are we saying
that we think this was Hume?
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That'd explain how Precious
might have had a key to the house.
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This relationship was supposed
to have happened when?
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She said Precious talked about him
the very last time
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she was up at the farm.
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Niamh always assumed
that's why she never came back.
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And we definitively know
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that David Bell did die
three months before the murder?
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Yeah, I checked with Bangor General
on the way back.
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He died on April the 12th, 2016,
of lung cancer.
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Lots to think about there. Er, Kaz?
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So, Joseph Bell's been arrested
at his flat,
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having been bailed two nights ago
with a 10K surety.
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MURRAY SIGHS
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Where's he get that kind of money?
His own sugar daddy.
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And possible motives
for HIM killing her?
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A row that escalated
and could have been precipitated
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by multiple things.
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Drugs, money, her being on the game,
her not being on the game.
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Also, when you look at
the Zoom interviews I did,
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then simple old-fashioned revenge
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starts to look like
a fairly good motive.
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Be good to be able to place him
at the house at some point.
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It's funny you should say that,
because I've been doing
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a bit of record-checking
of Precious's bank statements.
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And started with the assumption
it was unlikely she had no phone,
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and was linking
debit card payments...
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PHONE RINGS
..to possible phone shops,
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newsagents, corner shops, etc,
and, bingo!
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This here.
Sorry.
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REPLACES RECEIVER
Ebele Falade's here, Guv.
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OK, thank you. Go on.
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Yeah, so this is a £30 card payment
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made to a small phone shop in Acton.
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Where did you get it?
Doesn't matter.
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It matters to me.
Same as you telling me
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what the police wanted
to speak to you about matters.
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I've already told you.
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It was an old client of mine
who sadly died,
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and they just wanted
some background on her.
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They couldn't do it in a phone call?
Apparently not.
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It's not my problem.
Can we move on, please?
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Serge spoke to one
of the French officers this morning.
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Explained the situation
with the children,
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that you live with us,
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that you are effectively
their stepfather.
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And they said you were
a person of interest in a murder.
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Which might have a sexual element.
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It's not true, Elise.
You must know that not be true.
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Look at me.
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Look at me.
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You need to leave.
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Please...
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Now, please.
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IN FRENCH:
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OK, thank you. Bye, now.
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Boss, have you got a minute?
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I just spoke
to social services again.
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Er, yeah, one sec.
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Guv?
Yeah?
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DOOR OPENS,
CLOSES
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Erm, so I just spoke to HR
at West London Social Services,
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and they've confirmed Karol Wojski
vehemently denied the allegation,
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but then also refused
to hand his phone over.
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So, he was sacked or resigned?
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It was agreed he could just resign
on mental health grounds,
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with no complaint on his record.
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And when he left,
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another employee came forward
with a similar allegation.
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So, what are we thinking?
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Maybe there was some sort of
sexual misdemeanour with Precious
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that escalated?
OK.
256
00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,640
Make an application for all his
work email correspondence for 2016,
257
00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,880
with particular reference,
obviously, to Precious.
258
00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,440
Guv.
259
00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,880
You all right?
Yes.
260
00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,320
So, my guess is
she'll probably go "no comment".
261
00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,560
So as discussed, the trick'll be
to goad her in to talking. Yep.
262
00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,480
In terms of motive,
we have a row that got out of hand
263
00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,880
about money, or sex work,
or Precious stealing from her.
264
00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,560
Or a row that got out of hand about
how terrible a mother Abele was.
265
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,560
Or what a terrible daughter
Precious was.
266
00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,480
Spoilt for choice.
Mm.
267
00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,120
So, when we spoke on Tuesday,
you said the last time
268
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,680
that you saw your daughter
was on her birthday,
269
00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,000
on the 15th of January,
is that correct?
270
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,680
Yes.
Now showing Ms Falade exhibit EF001.
271
00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,080
Can you confirm
that this mobile number
272
00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,880
was once registered to you?
273
00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,040
No idea.
OK.
274
00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,000
Showing exhibit EF002.
275
00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,320
So, this was the address attached
to the debit card
276
00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,000
that purchased that contract.
277
00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,120
Do you recognise that?
Yes.
278
00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,880
Was that your home address
between March 2014 and May 2015?
279
00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:43,960
Yes.
280
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,800
So it would be reasonable to assume
that this was your number, right?
281
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,960
No comment.
OK.
282
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,880
Here is exhibit EF003.
283
00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,120
Do you recognise that number?
284
00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,560
No.
285
00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,160
OK, so that number was attached
to a pay-as-you-go SIM which we -
286
00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,800
through various bank
and telecom records -
287
00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,000
have identified as having
been bought by your daughter.
288
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,360
Here's the thing, Bele.
289
00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,320
On the 26th of June, 2016,
the night we think she died,
290
00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:17,240
the number we believe was yours
291
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,360
called the number
we believe was your daughter's.
292
00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,240
Do you have any comment on that?
293
00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,560
No.
D'you remember the call?
294
00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,000
From six years ago?
295
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,920
The day your daughter died.
296
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,880
No.
Well, the call happened at 18:27.
297
00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,280
It lasted three minutes
and 12 seconds.
298
00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,120
No recollection at all?
No.
299
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,680
At 18:24, just before
you called your daughter,
300
00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,600
you also received a call from
an as yet unidentified number.
301
00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,880
Do you recall that?
No.
302
00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,720
OK, er, any recollection,
just 12 days before this,
303
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,200
of having a row with her
outside the house where she died?
304
00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,640
What row?
305
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,240
A neighbour called the police,
it was so loud,
306
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,640
and detailed hearing
the younger of the two women
307
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,320
calling her assailant "Mum".
308
00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,280
Her assailant?!
I never fucking touched her.
309
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,720
So you were there,
but you never touched her?
310
00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,400
No... No comment.
311
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,320
Fine. Moving on.
312
00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,840
Can I ask you
why you never mentioned
313
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,320
that Precious had
foetal alcohol spectrum disorder?
314
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:26,600
Because she didn't.
315
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,320
All her medical and social service
records say that she did.
316
00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:30,840
Because she told them that she did.
317
00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,160
Because she was small
and struggled at school
318
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,520
so wanted someone to blame.
319
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,000
Did you drink while pregnant?
320
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,720
No. I mean, we know that you have
a history of alcohol issues.
321
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,400
You told us yourself.
Not when I was pregnant.
322
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,160
You see...
323
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,040
..I think you're denying the FASD
324
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,080
because it had been a source
of huge conflict
325
00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,360
between Precious and you, hadn't it?
326
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,400
No comment.
Which you wanted to keep from us,
327
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,440
that you rowed - often violently -
328
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,480
many, many times
about this very subject.
329
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,680
No comment.
330
00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,320
Did you have another row with her
the night of June 26th? No.
331
00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,360
Maybe it got out of hand.
She was a volatile woman.
332
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,480
I wasn't even with her.
333
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,200
Maybe you didn't mean to hurt her.
Maybe it was an accident. Look...
334
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,360
I did...
335
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,320
the best I could for her.
336
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,920
And I'm sorry
if that wasn't good enough.
337
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,200
And... if I wasn't good enough.
338
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,200
But I'm confused as to why
339
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,520
she devoted so much of her life
to hating me.
340
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,440
Because, really, what a waste.
341
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,400
And I didn't have
an ideal childhood,
342
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,160
but you move on, don't you?
BELE SNIFFLES
343
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:54,360
So like I say, I am genuinely sorry
if I failed her.
344
00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,520
{\an8}But I can tell you honestly
that I never hit her.
345
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,560
{\an8}I never hurt her.
346
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,440
And I certainly never killed her.
347
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,520
It happens.
348
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,200
There you go.
Oh, thank you.
349
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,160
What, people shift their views
as they get older?
350
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,800
I mean, generally,
it tends to go the other way,
351
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,080
from left to right.
352
00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:37,040
And it's rarely as complete
as Hume's, but it does happen.
353
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,840
So, he was pretty conservative
originally?
354
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,440
HE SCOFFS
He was a classic Thatcherite
355
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,200
who'd lecture anyone
that would listen.
356
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,040
You didn't spend
what you didn't have.
357
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,640
Basically a version
of her "housewife fallacy".
358
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,080
That you run a country like a home,
don't accumulate debt.
359
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:55,440
And then?
And then, sometime late 2016,
360
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,240
just six years after he more or less
invented austerity for Osborne,
361
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,840
he declares the opposite.
That, actually, an economy
362
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,960
is profoundly different
from a household,
363
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,640
and we should be borrowing
and spending hugely
364
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,040
on public services.
365
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,640
So, does anyone have any idea
what brought this shift around?
366
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,920
Not really.
367
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,600
I mean, some people thought
it was his cancer diagnosis in 2014.
368
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,120
OK. Except he was still a vociferous
campaigner for budget cuts
369
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,280
all through his treatment,
so I didn't really buy that.
370
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,480
Huh! Some people
thought it was Brexit,
371
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,080
because he was a Remainer.
372
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,080
There was an argument that austerity
had a part to play in them losing,
373
00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:32,280
but anyone with half a brain
knew that austerity
374
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,640
was just one small part of that,
so...
375
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,880
So?
376
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,360
CLEARS HIS THROAT
377
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,320
I think it was a woman.
378
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,280
Deleted?
Sorry.
379
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960
Is that standard here?
Not at all.
380
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,560
This was all deleted by him,
by Karol Wojski.
381
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,640
So when you say deleted...?
Well, exactly.
382
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,400
It depends how tech savvy he was,
because not much is gone forever.
383
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000
But how much time and money
do you have?
384
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,440
I'll call my boss.
385
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,360
I don't know what you did
or what you didn't do,
386
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,800
but for what it's worth...
387
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,680
..I've always thought of you
as a good guy.
388
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,760
I love you, man.
389
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280
IN POLISH:
390
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,160
And he said that he saw him with her
in the spring of 2016
391
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,720
on the pavement
outside Portcullis House,
392
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,680
as Hussein was returning from a run.
393
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,440
How did he know it wasn't
a colleague, or just a friend or...?
394
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,120
Yeah, he said he saw
that they were rowing,
395
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,560
and that there was just something
in the way that they were together
396
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,880
that to him, at least, suggested
it was an intimate relationship.
397
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080
Did you show him a photo
of Precious?
398
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,960
Yeah. He couldn't say
one way or another on the face,
399
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,040
but he did remember
very specifically
400
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,120
that the woman with Hume was petite
401
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,440
and that she was probably mixed-race
or Mediterranean-looking.
402
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,320
OK.
Erm...
403
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,120
And then just one last thing.
404
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,680
As I was researching
his early years,
405
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,640
Wallingham, Cambridge,
the City, etc,
406
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760
I came across
a rather interesting detail.
407
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,440
Look at the second paragraph down,
under "Early Life".
408
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,680
So, the first company
that Hume worked for,
409
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,520
between 1968 and 1973,
410
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,280
was Morgan Lavelle.
411
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,680
The same company
that Ebele Falade walked into
412
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,560
with an air pistol nine years later.
413
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,760
Oh, man.
414
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,560
Where are we
with finding our doorman?
415
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,240
Er, I've been mainly
prioritising this.
416
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,320
Well, we need to speak
to the doorman ASAP,
417
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,160
because that, Kaz,
that is fucking gold.
418
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,360
VOICEMAIL:
'You have one new message.'
419
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,720
'Hi there, this is DS Lingley.
420
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,400
'Thanks for your message,
and great you're back in the UK.
421
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,000
'If you could present yourself
at Bishop Street Police Station,
422
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,200
'NW1, ASAP, please ask for me.
423
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,360
'That would be really helpful.
Thank you.'
424
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,440
So, the owner of the firearm
we think is our murder weapon...
425
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,960
Elton King?
'Yeah.'
426
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,440
We found him.
He's happy to talk to us.
427
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,120
OK, nice one.
Can you set something up tomorrow?
428
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,120
'On it now. Night, boss.'
429
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Night.
CALL DISCONNECTS
430
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,760
And so what we propose
three months out from launch
431
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,680
is that I step away
from the Bath position.
432
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,680
My commis chef is more than ready
to take the reins... Sorry.
433
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,920
You were right.
It's... all just... noise.
434
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,560
I'm... I'm so...
435
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,800
..sorry to have wasted your time.
436
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,120
I...
437
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280
It was a mistake.
It was my mistake.
438
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,840
I am so sorry.
439
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,080
I'm really sorry. I'll...
440
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,880
I'll be right back.
441
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,040
Bele.
442
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,360
Bele.
443
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,680
Now, we don't remotely expect you to
tell us where the gun is, Mr King.
444
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,280
All we want to know is
if there is a possibility
445
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,560
that Joseph Bell
could have had access to it
446
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,240
after you were arrested.
447
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,040
I 100% know he had access to it.
448
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,240
OK. How?
449
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,160
Cos it was him that used it
in the robbery, not me.
450
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,000
He was the one with you?
451
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,280
And when I got pulled,
I was happy to take the flak for it,
452
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200
on the assumption
he'd look after me inside.
453
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840
Send me shit, look after my lady.
454
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Except I never heard from him again.
So, yeah...
455
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,040
he had access to the gun,
cos I gave it to him.
456
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,600
And you'd be prepared to make
a statement to that effect?
457
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,120
Too fucking right I would.
458
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,080
So, we know the payments came
from a Coombe & Co account.
459
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,760
We just need to know now who,
or what, DSH is.
460
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,960
Except, unfortunately,
461
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,280
I'm not at liberty
to disclose that information.
462
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,000
Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake.
Yes, you are.
463
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,520
My colleague DS Boulting
sent through a disclosure form.
464
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,480
It's the bank's rules, I'm afraid.
465
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,640
We can return with a warrant
466
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,120
and spend a few days
turning the whole place over.
467
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,320
It's your call.
468
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,080
HE LAUGHS
469
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,000
I'll need to speak to my boss.
470
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,880
I'll wait.
471
00:26:54,360 --> 00:27:00,760
When I was 17
and just pregnant with Precious...
472
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,040
I came home from school one day
473
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:09,800
to find that my grandmother had
invited Pastor Muyulu to our house
474
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,120
to perform an exorcism on me.
475
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,880
I refused to cooperate
and fought them both off.
476
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,600
But then when I came back
a few days later...
477
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,080
to get my stuff
before I left for good,
478
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,360
I found my grandfather there
on his own.
479
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,440
He was a strong man still,
only in his early 50s,
480
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,880
and he told me that if we got
rid of it before I started to show,
481
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,320
then I wouldn't shame them
and the community,
482
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,920
like my mum had.
483
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,920
He tied me up
and forced a funnel into my mouth...
484
00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:01,040
..and poured half a litre of vodka
down me.
485
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Apart from giving me a taste
for the stuff,
486
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,520
whatever he did
over the next couple of hours
487
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960
obviously didn't work, because...
488
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,080
..Precious survived.
489
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,480
That, and the way
that they raised me,
490
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,720
damaged me for life.
491
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,960
And in here.
492
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,800
The constant sense of shame
and guilt...
493
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,120
..about my mum messed me up.
494
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,680
So the first time I got sober,
in my early 30s...
495
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,640
..I tried to get help.
496
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,360
And for a few years, I was lucky.
497
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,240
You know,
the referrals would sometimes get me
498
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,480
an hour of therapy once a week,
for a couple of months.
499
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,880
But then even that dwindled
to waiting lists
500
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,960
and apologies from overworked GPs.
501
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,280
So, you...
502
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,160
you find your own therapy,
don't you?
503
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,560
The drink sometimes.
504
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,880
Or love.
505
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,920
The best, I think.
506
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,000
But the... the damage
is still in there.
507
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,480
So, how about I tell you
where we are, what we know.
508
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,400
Showing the suspect exhibit JR1,
509
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:02,560
a copy of a triangulation document
supplied by KZK Mobile.
510
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,680
So, this document details that on
the 26th of June, 2016, at 18:49,
511
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,560
a phone that we believe
belonged to you
512
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,680
called a phone registered
to your grandmother, Ebele Falade.
513
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,280
That call was connected
via a phone mast
514
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,920
just 200 yards
from 64 Waterman Road.
515
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,200
So basically, what we're saying is,
516
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,040
that on the night
that your mother died,
517
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,480
we can place you in or near the
house in which her body was found.
518
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,120
D'you have any response to that?
519
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,640
No comment.
Did you make that call?
520
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,360
No comment.
Were you there, J?
521
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,840
No comment.
522
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,040
Do you remember Elton King, Joseph?
523
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,960
No comment.
He remembers you.
524
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Not that fondly, I'm sorry to say.
525
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,520
No comment.
526
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,200
That wasn't actually a question,
but thanks for the response.
527
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Did you look after a gun
for Mr King, Joseph?
528
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,160
No comment.
Did you keep it
529
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,680
while he went to prison
for a robbery
530
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,600
that you were also involved in?
No comment.
531
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,960
Did you have it with you
when you went to see your mother
532
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
on the night of 26th June, 2016?
No comment.
533
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,800
Did you get into a row with her,
Joseph?
534
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,880
No comment.
535
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Because we know things
were difficult between you.
536
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,440
We spoke to many people who looked
after you when you were growing up.
537
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,440
Teachers, social workers,
your foster parent, Alan Barker.
538
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400
He told us
what your mum put you through,
539
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200
and I know that she was wrestling
with her own demons, but...
540
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,640
..no child should have to deal with
what you did.
541
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,400
The people
that she made you encounter.
542
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560
The innocence
that was taken away from you.
543
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,720
So we understand if it was a row
that got out of hand
544
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520
and your anger
got the better of you.
545
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,800
Maybe it was even an accident.
546
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,880
But why don't you tell us
your side of the story?
547
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,640
You don't understand a thing.
548
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,360
Joseph...
And you can shut the fuck up.
549
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,040
So help us.
550
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,080
I'm not Joseph Bell.
551
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,600
I'm sorry?
552
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,360
I'm not Joe.
553
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,600
It's not J for Joseph.
It's J for Jay.
554
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,120
I'm Joe's half-brother.
555
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,760
My birth was never registered.
556
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,920
My mum didn't want me
taken in to care like Joe was.
557
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,560
So... So, what about schools
and healthcare?
558
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,040
I lived between my mum and my dad
till I was 11.
559
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,400
He home-schooled me a bit.
560
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,960
So, how old are you?
21.
561
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,720
So you were 14 when your mum died?
562
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480
Nearly 15.
563
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,840
And did you go to your dad, then?
564
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,000
No, he died in 2015.
565
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,000
And who was your father?
566
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,080
Eric Royce.
567
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,320
OK. And where did he live?
568
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,480
With, erm... a travelling community.
569
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,200
So, er...
570
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480
How did you survive in London,
571
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,240
I presume on your own,
from the age of 14?
572
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,400
I did fine. I was already old, man.
573
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,400
I stole. Lived on the streets.
574
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,360
Got jobs in markets,
lived in squats.
575
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,360
Then when I was 16, I...
576
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,000
I adopted my brother's identity
to gain access to his benefits.
577
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,280
OK. Did your brother
not need his identity?
578
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,960
You can leave now.
579
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,240
Jay, I'm here to help...
Leave, bruv.
580
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,680
I'll wait outside.
581
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,040
DOOR CLOSES
582
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,320
No.
583
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Why didn't your brother
need his identity?
584
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,320
Did something happen to him, Jay?
585
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Something connected
to the night of the 26th?
586
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,000
There's people out there, man,
587
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,400
who'd wanna hurt me
cos of what I've seen.
588
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,960
So I'm not saying any more.
589
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,640
We wouldn't let that happen.
590
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,120
HE SCOFFS
We wouldn't let anyone hurt you.
591
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Yeah, people used to say that
to Joe.
592
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,720
All day long.
593
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,400
People like you,
telling him he could trust them.
594
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,640
That they'd look after him.
595
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,080
And they were lying.
596
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,440
All of them, man.
597
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,400
All of them.
598
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,440
So I ain't telling you a thing.
599
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,360
'So, good news, bad news.'
600
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,360
The bad news is that all his e-mails
to her have gone from our server.
601
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,480
And I mean properly gone.
He knew what he was doing.
602
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,160
OK. And the good news?
603
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,320
Just because of how and where
our systems store stuff,
604
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,000
there are two from her to him
undeleted,
605
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,600
and I think you'll find them
interesting.
606
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,440
So, this is the first,
607
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,880
as I say, from Precious Falade
to Karol Wojski,
608
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,760
sent on the 26th of June at 14:23.
609
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,320
"Hi, Karol, you left your laptop
here earlier, unlocked.
610
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,520
"Couldn't resist a peek
at your photos.
611
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,840
"Some interesting pics.
612
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,240
"How much would you not want me
to share these with your boss?
613
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,800
"Call or text. I'm here tonight."
614
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,920
And then this is the other one.
615
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,200
And at the bottom here,
616
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,440
you can see his reply
to her first email.
617
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,920
SHE READS
618
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,680
That would be the 27th.
619
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:49,000
And she just replies, "Bring 2K."
Oh...
620
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,520
{\an8}There was a laptop logged
on her son's arrest sheet.
621
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,480
So, is it possible to determine
who's this is?
622
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,240
Is it obviously Joe Royce's?
623
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,360
If it is, he's barely used it
in the last few years.
624
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,760
There's no internet history,
no updates, no emails.
625
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,600
So, when you say
the last few years...?
626
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,280
Last real activity was mid-2016.
627
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,440
So this is his mum's.
628
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,720
I think that's pretty likely.
OK.
629
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,200
Also, I need you to find
and download any stored photos,
630
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:27,520
look for anything, erm, tagged
and nominated to a Karol Wojski.
631
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,760
Right.
Yep.
632
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Yep.
Call me ASAP if you find anything.
633
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,800
Cheers.
634
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,680
His brother?!
'Half.
635
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,720
'At least, that's what he told me.'
636
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,400
There was no bloody brother,
half or otherwise.
637
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040
I'm just telling you what he said.
638
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,560
'Is he still in there?
639
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,080
'Are they still questioning him?'
Yes.
640
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,520
Look, just try to get him out,
Graham, whoever the hell he is.
641
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,400
And then what?
PHONE BEEPS
642
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,440
'Just...
Oh, I've got another call coming in.
643
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,720
'Just try to get him out.'
644
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,760
Ben.
'Tony.'
645
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,320
Long time.
'Indeed.'
646
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,440
How are you?
'Er, listen, not a social call.'
647
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,720
Er, we've had a rather unfortunate
incident in the bank today,
648
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,680
involving a police officer
649
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,400
asking about an account you set up
in the late '80s?
650
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,360
Right. And, er...
what did you tell them?
651
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Well, you know I always try
to preserve anonymity, but, er...
652
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,400
..I had to tell them, I'm afraid.
653
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,080
'About both standing orders.'
654
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,840
PHONE RINGS
655
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,360
Fran Lingley.
656
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,320
'Fran, it's Gordy Watson
on the front desk.'
657
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,800
Hey, Gordy, what's up?
658
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,080
'So, I just had the weirdest call
regarding the Precious Falade case.
659
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,640
'Can you come down?'
660
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,920
So, how do we prove
if he's telling the truth?
661
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,000
It's hard.
662
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,080
But DNA from him, his mum,
both his alleged fathers...
663
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,800
Who are both dead, and may not be
on any of our systems.
664
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,160
And how long's that gonna take,
if it's even possible?
665
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Not your problem.
666
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,880
I'm not sure
you're even his brief any more.
667
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,440
And even if he is lying
about who he says he is...
668
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,280
you still have no good evidence
to connect him to your murder.
669
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,760
As I said...
I think you'll find I am his brief,
670
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,240
as soon as I tell him
I can get him bailed.
671
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Guv.
672
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Erm, I need a word.
It's pretty urgent.
673
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,160
We'll get right back to you on that.
674
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,200
And did the caller say
who the body was?
675
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,080
A young man named Joseph Bell.
676
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,800
Jesus.
Yeah.
677
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,240
And I assume the caller
didn't say who he was?
678
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,440
No.
How weird they make the call now.
679
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,920
Can we trace where the call
came from? We're working on it.
680
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,520
And did he say where specifically
in the garden he was buried?
681
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,040
No, but I checked the address
he gave on Google Maps.
682
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,160
It's a small ground floor flat
in Greenford.
683
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,480
The garden's 50 by 30, so...
684
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,760
OK. Thanks, Fran.
OK.
685
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,240
So, we get a dog unit down there...
686
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,600
What about Jay Royce?
687
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,080
Brief's right.
We've got nothing to hold him.
688
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,880
Bail him to return next week.
689
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,880
OK.
DOOR OPENS
690
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Sunny, when they found the bullet,
did they keep looking for others?
691
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,280
I'll call Morten.
Get him back in there.
692
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,760
DOOR CLOSES
693
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,640
Mr Blackwood?
Yeah?
694
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Karen Willets, Bishop Street nick.
695
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,400
I was wondering
if you could give me five minutes?
696
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Yeah.
697
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Where were they?
698
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,320
In a file imaginatively named
"Karol Wojsack pics".
699
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,080
So, this is not Jay's.
700
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Everything on here would suggests to
me this is Precious Falade's laptop.
701
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,040
When was the file made?
702
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,640
26th of June, 2016.
703
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,760
Downloaded from an email
sent from a Hotmail address,
704
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,840
also created on the 26th of June.
705
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,520
About 20 minutes or so
before the e-mail was sent, in fact.
706
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,040
So she creates a Hotmail account
on Wojski's laptop
707
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,720
to send the photos to this to hers?
708
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,080
Yeah.
709
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,960
How many are there?
43.
710
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,920
On the tube, buses, shops...
It's obviously his thing.
711
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,520
Daryl, you're a genius.
Can you send them to me? Yep.
712
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,080
When?
KATE: 'About ten minutes ago.'
713
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,440
And what's he doing?
714
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Has he... Has he come
to pick some stuff up or...?
715
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,720
I don't think so.
He's playing with the kids.
716
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,840
'He just dropped a bag
in the spare room
717
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520
'and said he'd cook.'
OK, well, erm...
718
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,720
Look, you head on, Mum,
and, erm... I'll call you later, OK?
719
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,920
Sorry.
720
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,640
MAN: Go on, then.
Go find him. Good boy.
721
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,880
PHONE RINGS
722
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,680
Lingley.
GORDY: 'Got a Karol Wojski down here
723
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:41,960
'asking for you.'
724
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Can you get him to take a seat
and tell him I'll be down in 20?
725
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,880
'OK.'
726
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,040
DOOR LOCKING
727
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,600
DOGS SNIFFING
728
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,240
Here!
729
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Good boy.
730
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,120
Mr Hume, Gatwick?
Yes. Gatwick, please.
731
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,920
And we just felt that there was
a bit of a discrepancy between you,
732
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,720
obviously, thinking it was
733
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,720
a serious enough incident
to call the police,
734
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
and then what you went on to say
in court.
735
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,640
Well, yes.
736
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,400
Yes, there was.
Thanks.
737
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,600
OK.
738
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,120
But can I ask you why?
739
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,440
Because it was suggested to me
after the arrest...
740
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,200
..that if I wanted to keep my job...
741
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,480
..I downplay the incident.
742
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,000
Suggested by who?
743
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,480
One of the directors.
744
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,560
Which one?
I'd prefer not to say.
745
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,360
Well, according to my research,
746
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,000
Anthony Hume's father
was on the board of directors.
747
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,800
Was it him?
748
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,760
And was there anything else
he asked you to change?
749
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Anything else
that you didn't tell the court?
750
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,160
What she was shouting,
when she came through the door.
751
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,920
Which was?
752
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,160
"I wanna speak to my dad.
753
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,000
"I want to speak
to Tony fucking Hume."
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CAR ENGINE
TURNING OVER
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Hold on.
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