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It's one of the greatest alien
abduction stories of all time.
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In 1975, six men
in northeast Arizona
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witnessed their crew mate
kidnapped by a UFO.
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I hollered out,
"They got him!"
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But was Travis Walton
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really taken by aliens
or did his crewmates
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have something to do
with his disappearance?
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The sheriff kept telling me,
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"If you just tell us
where the body is?
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We can all go home."
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The six men who reportedly
eye witnessed the incident
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have taken lie detector tests.
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The story became
an international sensation,
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inspiring books, and a Hollywood movie,
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and it ripped apart a small town.
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This doesn't sound
like a true tale to me.
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What happened to Travis Walton
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that fateful night?
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What torture
was he subjected to?
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Forty five years later,
shocking new evidence
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reveals the true story behind...
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Fire in the Sky,
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the abduction of Travis Walton.
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A.P.R.O.
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The Aerial Phenomena
Research Organization
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in Tucson, Arizona.
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They were seeing several
hundred reports of UFO
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sightings each year
from all over the world.
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But one of the most bizarre
reports came recently
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from A.P.R.O.'s own backyard,
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the town of Snowflake, Arizona.
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The story begins on an ordinary day.
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A seven men logging
crew packs up after hours
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of hard work in the Apache-
Sitgreaves National Forest.
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It was a typical day
of working hard out there.
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We worked up until
the sun started going down.
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And by the time
we got all loaded up
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and ready to go,
it was getting fairly dark.
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The tight-knit crew begins
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the rough 30-mile drive back
home to Snowflake, Arizona.
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Foreman Mike Rogers
is behind the wheel
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when the men noticed
something strange.
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We hadn't gone very far.
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I mean, maybe
a quarter of a mile.
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The guys started seeing
a light through the trees.
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There was a bright light
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over to the right of us and we
couldn't really tell what it was.
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I first thought it was the Moon.
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I turned, I looked over
the other way
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and there's the Moon,
you know?
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Could it be a hunter's campfire?
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An airplane crash?
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The answer is even more terrifying.
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Right when you
come around that bend
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it just hits you all at once.
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It was just like a saucer
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just sat in the air, not moving.
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It was, uh, softly glowing.
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Like from the inside out.
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Twenty-two-year-old
Travis Walton
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in the passenger seat
startles everyone.
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Before Mike even stopped,
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Travis had, had the door
open and was getting out.
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Travis took off in a fairly
brisk walk up towards it.
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And he stood there
for just a few seconds
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and this thing
started making noise.
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It was shocking,
very shocking.
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I heard this noise,
I go, "Oh, crap."
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I felt this rumble, you know,
in the steering wheel.
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That spooked me.
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We were yelling,
"Come on, get back in here!"
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Travis, come back!
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We were all terrified.
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And all of the sudden,
this bluish light came out.
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The woods lit up
like a bluish green.
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It zapped him in the chest.
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He flies back
about 15 feet at least.
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His body bounces off the ground.
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Mike turns on the pickup
and takes off.
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There was blind panic.
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White knuckles.
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We went down the road
about a quarter of a mile...
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...then I hit the brakes.
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The guys in the truck
were saying,
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"What are you stopping for?
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That thing could be
chasing us," you know?
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And I said, "We left
Travis back there.
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So, we have to go back."
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That's when I became
hysterical, basically.
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Go back, right now.
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You don't know what it was.
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We have
to go back and get him.
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While we were outside
of the truck we saw a flash.
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Now, I assumed
it was that craft.
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Just in a straight, just...
Like that.
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Everybody got
their courage back
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till we saw it take off.
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Couldn't leave
Travis out there.
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You just don't leave
a guy behind.
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We went back...
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...very slow.
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Buddy!
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Travis!
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We walked around
the perimeter
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looking in the bushes
and that, you know,
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to see if he had crawled off.
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-Travis.
-Travis!
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Travis!
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Travis!
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But he was nowhere to be found.
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That's when Mike, he kinda fell down
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to the ground and kinda lost it.
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I broke down.
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I broke down because Travis
wasn't there.
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He was my best friend.
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Guilt-ridden, terrified
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and in way over their heads,
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the crew members decide to
call law enforcement for help.
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We all got back
in the truck, and we left.
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And that was a very,
very emotional trip.
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All right, there's telephone.
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There's this phone
at the sub station
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as we get coming off
the dirt road.
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We called the sheriff's apartment.
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The first officer arriving on scene
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is Navajo County sheriff's
deputy, Chuck Ellison.
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They were obviously very upset.
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And I tried to get just
as close to each one of them
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as I could to see
if I could detect odors
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of marihuana, alcohol...
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I didn't detect any.
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Sensing something amiss,
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Ellison talks to each
member of the crew.
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Starting with foreman Mike Rogers.
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Mike, he was the boss, you know?
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He called the shots
and how things go,
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where you're gonna go,
you know, and all that.
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The missing man, Travis Walton,
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dated Mike's sister, Dana.
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Also in the crew is Mike's
brother-in-law John Goulette.
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John's the kind of person
who gets along with everybody.
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I've known Travis
for a long, long time.
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I met him
when he was a teenager
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when I came up there
to stay with Katie and Mike.
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Goulette brought two other
friends onto the crew.
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Dwayne Smith and Allen Dalis.
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Allen Dalis was a...
Mike said, "the black sheep."
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here on the crew.
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He was a character.
He was...
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You know, he had his run ins
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with the law and that, you know.
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Rounding up
the crew are 26-year-old
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Kenny Peterson and
17-year-old's Steve Pierce.
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I was the gofer, you know?
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'Cause I was the youngest.
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When the frightened crew
members tell Deputy Ellison
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that Travis was attacked by a UFO,
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Ellison calls in his superior,
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Sheriff Marlin Gillespie.
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Marlin Gillespie was my father.
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He was the sheriff of Navajo
County for many years.
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At the time
that the incident occurred
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they called my father out
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to involve him and other deputies.
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Sheriff Gillespie showed up
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and we told him what happened,
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and he was looking around
for beer bottles and stuff,
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'cause he didn't really
believe our story.
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He thought
that these men saw something.
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That part he believed because
he said they were scared,
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but he wasn't sure
were they scared
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because of what they had done
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or were they really scared
because what they believed
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that Travis
had been taken by a UFO?
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He looked at Mike,
he says,
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"You gotta go back
and I want two volunteers
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to come back with me.
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The other three, I want you
to go back to Snowflake
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and don't leave town."
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Mike Rogers, Allen Dalis
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and Kenny Peterson
lead the sheriff
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and his deputies to the site.
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There's no trace of Travis.
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Or the alleged craft.
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I could not see
a skid mark of any kind, like,
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as if some kind of aircraft
that touched on the ground.
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I could not see a footprint
of any kind.
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I couldn't detect any odors.
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I didn't see any burns,
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and I said, "Well, we may as well
leave because he's not here."
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Without industrial
lightning equipment
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or a huge force of officers,
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the small-town sheriff's
hands are tied.
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He'll have to wait until morning
to launch a search party
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to find out if Travis
Walton is injured,
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dead or is it possible
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that he was abducted
by aliens?
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Twenty-two-year-old
Travis Walton is missing.
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Travis' older brother, Don,
recalls the night
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that changed
his family's life forever.
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Mother came over to my home
about three o'clock in the morning.
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Mama's pretty hysterical
when she got there.
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She kept repeating,
"They got him. They got him."
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I didn't know what to think.
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Across town,
the other crewmen's families
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anxiously await the arrival
of their loved ones.
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I was at Mike's
house because
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Mike's then wife, Katie,
and I were putting on a quilt.
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We were gonna make this big
ole quilt for a wedding,
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and Mike didn't come home
when he normally does.
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Once it's dark you can't saw
trees out in the woods.
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We were starting to get
kind of worried about him.
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Katie's younger brother
worked with Mike, too.
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John Goulette,
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so she was worried
about him as well.
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But when Mike
finally does make it home,
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his family's worries
only intensify.
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They started telling
us what was going on...
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That's when we found out
that it was Travis
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that was missing,
and my brother Mike
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looked like he had aged 20-30
years just in that day.
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Mike felt this big, huge
weight on his shoulders.
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He felt responsible for Travis.
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Mike and Angie's
little sister, Dana,
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who dated Travis at the time,
can't believe what she hears.
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Was her boyfriend
attacked by an alien ship?
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They just told me what happened.
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I think they said "UFO."
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And I was, you know, kind of
shocked about what happened.
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Like, it was hard to believe.
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But it was really scary,
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I was really worried
about Travis,
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but I could tell those guys
were telling the truth.
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They seemed very traumatized.
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It scares the hell out of you
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because your reality
just becomes so different.
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As rays of early
morning sunlight
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stretch across
Navajo County, Arizona,
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the sleepy town of Snowflake
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awakens to an unearthly,
unsolved mystery.
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When we got up
the next morning, you know,
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my mother had let us know that
my father was investigating
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something that had happened
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out in the woods and that
somebody had been abducted
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by a UFO.
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News of Travis Walton's
UFO abduction
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spreads like wildfire.
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I've always thought
there could be UFO,
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but, uh... That story's
kinda farfetched.
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We've seen 'em.
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-You've seen 'em?
-Yeah.
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This doesn't sound
like a true tale to me.
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My father was the deputy
sheriff in Navajo County.
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I remember my father
coming home
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and talking about it
and he was rolling his eyes,
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like... Hmm.
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There was
a lot of skepticism.
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Most people were having
a hard time believing it.
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It's a very religious community.
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The elders
of the church and that,
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they were telling people,
"Hey, you know,
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this ain't true.
You all don't believe it."
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My wife didn't know
whether to believe it
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or not, you know?
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She was skeptical, you know?
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As the town of Snowflake debates
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the existence of aliens and UFOs,
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the rest of the world
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focusses their attention
on human space flight.
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Moving out.
Clear the tower.
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Roger. Tower clear.
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Just seven years earlier,
Apollo 11 first landed humans
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on the Moon, and just
a few months earlier,
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in July of 1975,
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the decade's long space race
between the United States
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and the Soviet Union
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officially came
to a peaceful end.
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Proving that space
exploration could overcome
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such earth-bound conflicts
as politics and nationalism.
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Yet as mankind casts
its hopeful eyes
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to the sky, other mysteries
from deepest space emerge.
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Reports of UFO sightings
and alien abductions
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were on the rise
in the mid-1970s.
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1975 in particular was a,
uh, an active year for UFOs.
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Across the country
there were sightings,
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and we call this a flap.
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It's a period
of activity researchers,
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uh, look for patterns as to
why this particular location,
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why this time?
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The state
of Arizona routinely ranks
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among the top areas
in the world
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for UFO-related events.
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If you go back
to the summer of '47
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there's newspaper
articles of a craft
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similar to what was
described in Roswell
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that happened only weeks
or months before.
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Then you have 1952,
the Marana Air Force Base.
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A silvery disk
was reported hovering
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over the air force base
and when they scrambled jets
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to try and get to it,
it disappeared.
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The American
Southwest is home
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to all kinds
of military installations.
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It's where we created
the first nuclear bombs.
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It's where Roswell happened.
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Why does all this
happen with UFOs?
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Because it's so important to
the United States government
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and to our military projection of power,
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and so it would make sense
that if another intelligence
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was here to find out
what makes humans tick,
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they might start there.
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Is there something
in the Southwest territory
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that attracts
extra-planetary explorers?
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Authorities in Snowflake
don't believe claims
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that Travis Walton
was abducted by aliens.
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But with the loggers
whereabout unaccounted for,
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law enforcements
launches a massive manhunt.
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The sheriff's
department went up
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on the rim
to the Turkey Springs area
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where this incident
supposedly occurred.
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They had the sheriff's posse
out looking for him.
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00:19:09,767 --> 00:19:12,300
They had helicopters
and they had dogs.
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There's people just walking.
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They had all kinds of stuff
looking for him
324
00:19:18,767 --> 00:19:20,767
and they just looked
and looked and looked.
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00:19:21,867 --> 00:19:23,867
Travis' older brother Don,
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00:19:23,867 --> 00:19:24,447
a forest service employee,
joins the search party.
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00:19:28,567 --> 00:19:29,967
It was a madhouse out there.
328
00:19:32,867 --> 00:19:35,266
There's probably
150-200 people
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out searching for Travis.
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The longer they look,
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the more law enforcement
and Travis' family
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become suspicious
of foul play.
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They were thinking
the crew got
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in some kind of a skirmish
and maybe killed Travis.
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00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,367
Travis' family
was all looking at Mike,
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00:19:59,367 --> 00:20:02,467
like, "Okay, Mike,
where's our Travis?"
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00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:06,467
I thought maybe a bad accident
338
00:20:06,467 --> 00:20:10,900
had happened where
the chainsaw may hit his body.
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00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200
I did the first day,
I went out there with them.
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They kinda split us up and had
us go in different routes.
341
00:20:17,767 --> 00:20:20,367
And each group had
a deputy sheriff.
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He kept telling me, you know,
"If you just tell us
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where the body is,
we can all go home."
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Although they reported Travis
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00:20:28,867 --> 00:20:31,500
was captured by a UFO,
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00:20:31,567 --> 00:20:35,967
the crew now realize they're
suspected of murder.
347
00:20:37,467 --> 00:20:39,867
s we started going
through these brush piles,
348
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,800
I wanna know if there's anything
349
00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:45,567
in those brush piles
that might resemble a body.
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Couldn't figure out what would happen
to him, where he went, you know?
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We were all confused,
we couldn't figure out
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00:20:53,367 --> 00:20:54,447
why we couldn't find a body.
353
00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,367
Travis Walton
may have disappeared
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00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:00,667
without a trace,
355
00:21:01,266 --> 00:21:02,567
but there is evidence
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00:21:02,567 --> 00:21:07,166
that something very strange
happened in those woods.
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00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,266
Region headquarters
in Albuquerque,
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00:21:11,367 --> 00:21:13,467
they sent a man over
at the request
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00:21:13,467 --> 00:21:16,767
of the sheriff's department
to bring a Geiger counter.
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00:21:18,867 --> 00:21:23,467
Today I am the only living person
361
00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:27,066
who saw the readings
on that Geiger counter.
362
00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:32,400
Don claims he witnessed
the Geiger counter needles spike.
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00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,900
Indicating a high
level of radiation
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00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,700
at the alleged UFO site.
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00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:44,767
It was off scale.
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00:21:45,867 --> 00:21:47,600
You could see the difference in the...
367
00:21:47,667 --> 00:21:49,266
What the needle was showing.
368
00:21:50,667 --> 00:21:53,500
It would drop off after, at 100 yards.
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00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:58,200
That scared me.
That kind of radiation.
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00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,467
Could high levels of localize radiation
371
00:22:06,467 --> 00:22:09,467
be evidence of an alien craft?
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00:22:24,567 --> 00:22:26,567
Wood cutters
said they were riding
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00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:29,266
in this truck along
an isolated mountain road
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00:22:29,367 --> 00:22:32,100
when suddenly a spaceship
hovered over them.
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00:22:32,166 --> 00:22:34,567
This is what the spaceship
looked like according
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00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:36,900
to one of the men
who drew this picture.
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00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,266
Another of the men,
22-year-old Travis Walton
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00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:41,867
reportedly got out of the truck
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00:22:41,867 --> 00:22:42,664
and approached the spaceship.
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00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:48,567
As law enforcement
and volunteers scour
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00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:52,467
the Sitgreaves National Forest
for a second day,
382
00:22:52,467 --> 00:22:56,266
the search for Travis Walton
and the sensational claim
383
00:22:56,266 --> 00:23:00,100
of his UFO abduction makes
headlines around the world.
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00:23:02,567 --> 00:23:06,200
Media outlets descend upon
Walton's hometown
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00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:07,700
of Snowflake, Arizona.
386
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,567
Our town had never really had
any reporters at all,
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00:23:11,567 --> 00:23:12,664
and then all of the sudden
there's like people
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00:23:13,567 --> 00:23:16,100
from all over the world,
all different countries.
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00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:18,166
It was just the strangest thing
390
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,767
that the word got out that fast.
391
00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:24,100
I think there was even some
reporters from Japan.
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00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,266
The media hounds everyone
involved in the case.
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00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:32,166
Including Sheriff Marlin Gillespie.
394
00:23:32,166 --> 00:23:34,900
I just remember the phones
were ringing off the hook.
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00:23:37,767 --> 00:23:40,600
No one had pagers,
no one had cellphones
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00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:42,664
and my father
couldn't take the phone
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00:23:42,767 --> 00:23:44,600
off the hook because
he depended on that.
398
00:23:44,667 --> 00:23:46,367
They needed to get
ahold of them for work.
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00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,166
But reporters aren't
the only curious visitors
400
00:23:51,166 --> 00:23:53,000
to suddenly appear in Snowflake.
401
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,567
Mysterious out of towners cramp up
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00:23:56,567 --> 00:23:58,166
amongst the search parties.
403
00:24:00,867 --> 00:24:04,200
You always tell, back then,
a government car
404
00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:06,767
because it was just a ugly color.
405
00:24:06,767 --> 00:24:10,100
And the rims always
matched the color of the car.
406
00:24:11,266 --> 00:24:12,664
There'd be two guys sitting in there.
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00:24:13,166 --> 00:24:15,600
Suits and sunglasses
just watching you.
408
00:24:15,667 --> 00:24:19,100
Most people know the Men
in Black from pop culture
409
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:21,667
but there have
been historically
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00:24:21,667 --> 00:24:23,166
verified incidents
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00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:25,367
where unidentified
government agents
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00:24:25,367 --> 00:24:27,400
follow up on cases like this.
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00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:30,467
I take off to go somewhere
414
00:24:30,567 --> 00:24:33,266
and by the time I got
to where I was gonna go
415
00:24:33,367 --> 00:24:35,166
they were already sitting
there waiting.
416
00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:37,266
You know?
I don't know how they knew where I was going.
417
00:24:38,467 --> 00:24:40,667
People have suspected
over the years
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00:24:40,767 --> 00:24:42,664
that among that crowd
of people that included journalists
419
00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:48,400
and UFO observers were people
from the United States government
420
00:24:48,467 --> 00:24:50,600
who wanted to know
more about this case.
421
00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:52,367
And why would they
wanna know more about it?
422
00:24:52,367 --> 00:24:55,667
Because they knew UFOs were
real whether they admitted it
423
00:24:55,667 --> 00:24:58,667
to the public or not,
but, uh, they thought
424
00:24:58,767 --> 00:25:01,000
that the Travis Walton case
was a pretty good case.
425
00:25:20,367 --> 00:25:24,200
Travis has now
been missing for three days.
426
00:25:24,266 --> 00:25:29,100
His loved ones face
an agonizing lack of answers.
427
00:25:29,166 --> 00:25:31,900
I think everybody
got more and more worried.
428
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Everybody was more
tense and scared
429
00:25:35,667 --> 00:25:37,200
the longer the time went by.
430
00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:41,767
With every passing hour the crew
431
00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:42,664
feels the crushing
pressure of suspicion.
432
00:25:45,567 --> 00:25:46,767
I wasn't going out.
433
00:25:46,767 --> 00:25:48,367
I was hiding
at a girlfriend's house
434
00:25:48,367 --> 00:25:51,166
and staying away
from everybody.
435
00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:54,367
I'd say four out of five
people thought, you know,
436
00:25:54,367 --> 00:25:57,266
it was either a hoax or,
or was a murder or something.
437
00:25:58,300 --> 00:25:59,800
Even without a body,
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00:25:59,867 --> 00:26:02,467
the sheriff's department
investigates the case
439
00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:03,900
as a homicide.
440
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,667
It doesn't take long
to zero in on a suspect.
441
00:26:10,066 --> 00:26:12,367
Crew member Allen Dalis.
442
00:26:13,367 --> 00:26:15,300
The cops, they found out
443
00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:18,700
about a fight that Travis
and Allen Dalis was in.
444
00:26:21,367 --> 00:26:24,500
He'd fight anybody, and he
could get pretty ornery.
445
00:26:24,567 --> 00:26:26,100
He didn't like Mike and Travis.
446
00:26:28,967 --> 00:26:31,367
I was pretty confident
in my head at that time
447
00:26:31,467 --> 00:26:34,000
that Allen
had something to do with this.
448
00:26:34,066 --> 00:26:36,166
I accused him of killing Travis.
449
00:26:39,567 --> 00:26:41,266
Authorities turn up the heat
450
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:42,664
on the remaining crew members.
451
00:26:44,266 --> 00:26:46,266
I remember my dad saying
452
00:26:46,367 --> 00:26:50,266
that Marlin Gillespie was
questioning the boys down
453
00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:52,100
saying, "Just admit,
you killed him.
454
00:26:52,166 --> 00:26:53,600
Just admit it."
455
00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,300
Flake pulls up and he says,
456
00:26:55,367 --> 00:26:57,000
"We know you didn't do the killing,
457
00:26:57,066 --> 00:27:00,066
but we know for sure
that Allen Dalis killed Travis
458
00:27:00,066 --> 00:27:02,567
or Jon Goulette killed him."
459
00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:06,400
Once I figured out what they
were doing and what they thought,
460
00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:08,800
you know, I pretty much stayed
away from the cops, you know.
461
00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:12,166
The sheriff's department
462
00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:14,100
asks Mike Rogers
and the other crewmen
463
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:16,900
to submit to a polygraph examination.
464
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,967
Rogers jumps at the chance
to clear their names.
465
00:27:22,967 --> 00:27:25,400
We told him, you know,
"We'll take polygraph test.
466
00:27:25,467 --> 00:27:28,900
We'll... We'll take
sodium pentothal, hypnosis,
467
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,166
anything you can give us
because this thing really happened
468
00:27:32,166 --> 00:27:35,400
and we don't like this thing
about you accusing us of murder."
469
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,367
The men are summoned
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00:27:44,467 --> 00:27:46,800
to take polygraph tests
at the Navajo County
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00:27:46,867 --> 00:27:48,767
courthouse in nearby Holbrook.
472
00:27:49,367 --> 00:27:51,200
It was scary, really scary
473
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:54,900
to go into that courthouse.
474
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,367
The courthouse and the jail
was the same building.
475
00:27:58,867 --> 00:28:03,000
I was more scared
the day of the polygraph test
476
00:28:03,066 --> 00:28:05,767
than I was when I saw
Travis getting zapped.
477
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,166
I didn't know who
was gonna give us this test.
478
00:28:10,266 --> 00:28:12,467
I was thinking, "You know,
they could be setting us up.
479
00:28:12,467 --> 00:28:12,664
No matter what,
we're probably gonna fail this
480
00:28:12,664 --> 00:28:14,700
No matter what,
we're probably gonna fail this
481
00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:16,367
and we'll probably
gonna go to jail."
482
00:28:16,367 --> 00:28:19,100
When we went in there we
figured we weren't coming out.
483
00:28:22,667 --> 00:28:26,166
This polygraph test
went on all day long.
484
00:28:26,166 --> 00:28:27,767
Up until the evening.
485
00:28:29,867 --> 00:28:32,600
Because the test take
about two hours a piece.
486
00:28:33,867 --> 00:28:36,767
As part of the test,
the polygrapher asks
487
00:28:36,867 --> 00:28:40,300
each crewmen the same series
of questions three times.
488
00:28:41,567 --> 00:28:42,664
The first three questions regard
489
00:28:43,567 --> 00:28:46,000
the alleged murder of Travis Walton.
490
00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:48,300
The subject of the final question
491
00:28:48,367 --> 00:28:50,266
is the UFO.
492
00:28:50,367 --> 00:28:52,467
Once the test got underway
493
00:28:52,467 --> 00:28:55,100
he started changing his
mind really quickly.
494
00:28:56,767 --> 00:28:59,000
By the time he had
tested all of us,
495
00:28:59,066 --> 00:29:01,066
he seemed to be a believer.
496
00:29:02,266 --> 00:29:03,867
Five of the six men passed
497
00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:05,967
the lie detector test outright.
498
00:29:05,967 --> 00:29:12,066
Only Allen Dalis' test
comes back as inconclusive.
499
00:29:12,664 --> 00:29:16,367
Allen actually passed
the first two run throughs of this test.
500
00:29:16,367 --> 00:29:19,266
It was inconclusive
because he pulled himself lose
501
00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,800
from a scene
in the last run through.
502
00:29:23,767 --> 00:29:25,967
The results of the polygraph
503
00:29:25,967 --> 00:29:29,166
stunned everyone
in the town of Snowflake.
504
00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:32,667
Perhaps none more so
than the polygrapher himself.
505
00:29:33,767 --> 00:29:35,867
I talked to him after the test,
506
00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:41,066
and he indicated to me that...
That apparently he was wrong.
507
00:29:41,066 --> 00:29:42,664
Unofficially he said
that he believed
508
00:29:44,367 --> 00:29:47,100
that we had told the truth.
509
00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:50,700
For five excruciating days,
510
00:29:50,767 --> 00:29:53,867
Travis Walton has been missing.
511
00:29:53,967 --> 00:29:55,867
The skeptical sheriff's department
512
00:29:55,967 --> 00:29:58,266
is back to square one.
513
00:29:58,266 --> 00:30:01,100
If Travis Walton
hasn't been murdered
514
00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:04,367
and no one can find his body
in the woods,
515
00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:07,467
where could he be?
516
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,266
Late that night, the phone
rings at Travis' sister's home.
517
00:30:21,767 --> 00:30:24,867
His brother-in-law,
Grant, answers.
518
00:30:26,667 --> 00:30:28,467
I had come home from work.
519
00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:30,300
Phone rang
520
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,467
and it was a voice
on the other side saying,
521
00:30:33,967 --> 00:30:35,300
"This is Travis.
522
00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:37,800
Come and get me."
523
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,767
Travis Walton has
been missing for five days.
524
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,100
When Travis' brother-in-law,
Grant, answers a late-night
525
00:31:01,166 --> 00:31:04,100
phone call, he assumes it's a prank.
526
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:05,700
And I said,
"Yeah, right."
527
00:31:05,767 --> 00:31:07,567
I get ready to hang up he said,
528
00:31:07,567 --> 00:31:09,200
"No, no, no, no,
please don't hang up."
529
00:31:09,266 --> 00:31:10,638
And, so then
I started listening
530
00:31:11,467 --> 00:31:13,867
and then the conversation ended.
531
00:31:13,967 --> 00:31:17,567
I got my wife out of bed,
we went to her mother's place.
532
00:31:17,567 --> 00:31:20,667
His brother Duane
was there visiting.
533
00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:23,266
We got in the truck, drove to Heber
534
00:31:23,266 --> 00:31:24,967
where he described where he was.
535
00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:30,667
I must've passed out
'cause it seemed like almost
536
00:31:30,767 --> 00:31:34,567
immediately they were, um...
Headlights of the truck
537
00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:36,667
were shining into the phone booth
538
00:31:37,867 --> 00:31:40,266
and my brother came
over there and lifted me up.
539
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,567
And I was just hysterical.
540
00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:49,500
He sort of lifted me into the truck
541
00:31:49,567 --> 00:31:53,066
and I was just breaking down,
just disintegrating.
542
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,367
In this rare archival interview
543
00:31:58,467 --> 00:32:02,000
Travis recalls the events
leading up to the phone call.
544
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,000
Wandering the road for what feels
545
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,667
like hours, Travis recognizes
546
00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:38,667
the lights of Heber,
Arizona, in the distance.
547
00:32:41,967 --> 00:32:44,300
I ran down into the town
548
00:32:45,567 --> 00:32:46,967
and called my family.
549
00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:48,967
"Come and get me."
550
00:32:57,367 --> 00:32:59,467
On the way back to Snowflake,
551
00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:02,700
Travis struggles to piece
together his experience.
552
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,467
One of the biggest
shocks I had to deal with
553
00:33:07,567 --> 00:33:09,500
when I was returned
was finding out
554
00:33:09,567 --> 00:33:10,638
that this brief period of time
555
00:33:11,967 --> 00:33:14,700
had somehow taken
over five days.
556
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:19,166
My brother, he asked me
to feel my face
557
00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:21,967
and I had a, had a...
You know, weeks growth.
558
00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:25,300
I was... It really took
my mind just to reel at that
559
00:33:25,367 --> 00:33:28,000
because as far as I knew
it was the same night.
560
00:33:29,867 --> 00:33:32,667
I was trying to describe
what I'd experienced,
561
00:33:32,667 --> 00:33:34,767
but I was just
making it worst.
562
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,367
And he finally said,
"Don't try to talk right now."
563
00:33:40,638 --> 00:33:42,867
He talked about how scared
the family had been.
564
00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:47,767
For Travis' family,
the past week
565
00:33:47,767 --> 00:33:50,500
has been an
emotional roller coaster.
566
00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:52,000
Everybody was relieved,
567
00:33:52,066 --> 00:33:54,867
but they were still kind
of in a shock mode.
568
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:58,767
It didn't affect me as much
as it did my wife,
569
00:33:58,767 --> 00:34:03,467
and she still doesn't
wanna be bothered with it.
570
00:34:03,567 --> 00:34:05,767
When Travis came back
571
00:34:05,867 --> 00:34:08,367
we were all so relieved.
572
00:34:10,638 --> 00:34:13,400
At the same time
the story was so hard
573
00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:17,600
to fit in to your realm
of reality, you know?
574
00:34:21,266 --> 00:34:26,800
Even decades later,
the trauma of those five days
575
00:34:26,867 --> 00:34:31,200
still weighs heavy on Travis
and his now wife Dana.
576
00:34:33,266 --> 00:34:35,266
I was really, really worried,
577
00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:38,166
and scared that you...
What happened to you,
578
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:40,638
I didn't know
if you'd ever be returned.
579
00:34:41,967 --> 00:34:44,200
Specially the more days went by,
580
00:34:44,266 --> 00:34:46,266
gets more and more scary.
581
00:34:47,266 --> 00:34:48,367
Well...
582
00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:50,600
Did you ever
think for a minute
583
00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:53,500
that maybe the guys
or Mike or something
584
00:34:53,567 --> 00:34:56,467
-were covering up a killing, a murder?
-No.
585
00:34:56,567 --> 00:34:58,300
No, I never thought that.
586
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:01,500
Yep.
587
00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:05,266
I even went out to the window,
and I looked up on the sky
588
00:35:05,367 --> 00:35:08,400
and I said, "Will you please
bring Travis back?"
589
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,400
-I'm sorry.
-That must've hurt you.
590
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,867
With Travis in such a fragile state,
591
00:35:36,867 --> 00:35:39,767
his brother Duane
is determined to protect him
592
00:35:39,767 --> 00:35:40,638
from any intense
scrutiny by the media
593
00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:42,100
from any intense
scrutiny by the media
594
00:35:42,166 --> 00:35:43,700
or law enforcement.
595
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,266
Desperate for assistance,
he reaches out
596
00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:51,066
to the Aerial Phenomena
Research Organization
597
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,367
or A.P.R.O.
598
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:55,400
A Tucson based
UFO investigative group.
599
00:35:57,767 --> 00:36:01,400
Jim and Coral Lorenzen
really assembled A.P.R.O.
600
00:36:01,467 --> 00:36:03,867
with the key focus
of having a credible
601
00:36:03,967 --> 00:36:07,500
and scientific, unbiased perspective.
602
00:36:07,567 --> 00:36:09,967
That's why they brought in
medical doctors,
603
00:36:10,638 --> 00:36:12,867
they brought in, uh,
scientists that were respected
604
00:36:12,867 --> 00:36:15,567
in their fields
and consulted with them
605
00:36:15,667 --> 00:36:16,800
whenever they did a case.
606
00:36:18,066 --> 00:36:20,467
My brother Duane,
he had contacted
607
00:36:20,567 --> 00:36:22,100
Jim Lorenzen, the head
608
00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:25,467
of the Aerial Phenomena
Research Organization
609
00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:28,000
who had a couple
of medical doctors
610
00:36:28,066 --> 00:36:29,967
in their Phoenix membership
611
00:36:29,967 --> 00:36:32,367
who agreed to do
an examination.
612
00:36:34,467 --> 00:36:35,967
In the dead of night,
613
00:36:35,967 --> 00:36:39,467
Duane Walton secretly sneaks
Travis out of Snowflake.
614
00:36:40,667 --> 00:36:44,100
A.P.R.O. arranged for Travis
to go to a hotel in Phoenix.
615
00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:46,967
He checked in
under an assumed name
616
00:36:46,967 --> 00:36:49,100
and then they sent over two A.P.R.O.
617
00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:50,767
affiliated medical doctors.
618
00:36:52,266 --> 00:36:53,767
They didn't want any leaks
619
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,800
of what was happening with Travis
620
00:36:56,867 --> 00:36:59,166
with his, uh, medical condition,
621
00:36:59,266 --> 00:37:01,200
and, and all the testing.
622
00:37:03,266 --> 00:37:05,567
Before medical
tests are performed,
623
00:37:05,567 --> 00:37:08,166
Travis tell the physicians
what he remembered
624
00:37:08,266 --> 00:37:10,638
from the night
of November 5th, 1975,
625
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,100
starting with the moment
he exited the truck.
626
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:23,500
It just was kind
of a... A sort of an impulse.
627
00:37:23,567 --> 00:37:25,000
Seeing this object there...
628
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:28,867
For some reason
I just kind of assumed
629
00:37:28,967 --> 00:37:31,800
that it was gonna take off
before I got very far.
630
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,200
We could hear a real low
rumbling sort of a sound.
631
00:37:40,638 --> 00:37:43,066
Pounding, you know, like
a heartbeat sort of a thing.
632
00:37:44,867 --> 00:37:47,900
And then some real
high frequency sorts of sounds.
633
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,967
Very hard to describe
these sounds.
634
00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:56,266
The closer I got,
it suddenly got louder,
635
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,767
and it started to move.
636
00:38:01,567 --> 00:38:05,367
I was startled and out of fear
I just jumped for cover.
637
00:38:10,638 --> 00:38:13,767
Then I was figuring out,
"Boy, I've really got myself
638
00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:15,100
in a bad situation here."
639
00:38:16,567 --> 00:38:19,767
I stood up with the idea
of running back to the truck,
640
00:38:19,767 --> 00:38:22,000
but as soon as I raised up,
641
00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:25,066
that's when I felt this stunning force.
642
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,667
The next thing Travis remembers
643
00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:40,638
is waking up on the side
of the road five days later.
644
00:38:44,467 --> 00:38:47,266
To make sense of
the missing time in between,
645
00:38:47,367 --> 00:38:49,867
Travis agrees
to undergo a controversial
646
00:38:49,867 --> 00:38:52,700
technique called
regressive hypnosis.
647
00:38:52,767 --> 00:38:55,667
Regressive hypnosis
has been used, uh,
648
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,166
popularly since
the Betty and Barney Hill
649
00:38:58,266 --> 00:38:59,967
abduction in 1961.
650
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,100
Tapes of Betty and Barney
651
00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:04,800
while abducted are still
chilling even today.
652
00:39:10,867 --> 00:39:12,767
Oh. Oh!
653
00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:22,000
An hypnosis session
is scheduled with A.P.R.O.'s
654
00:39:22,066 --> 00:39:24,600
director of research,
Dr. James Harder.
655
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,100
In the meantime,
Travis' doctors perform
656
00:39:29,166 --> 00:39:30,367
a battery of tests.
657
00:39:35,066 --> 00:39:37,867
Blood and urine
samples were taken
658
00:39:37,967 --> 00:39:40,638
that were put through
the county medical examiners
659
00:39:41,467 --> 00:39:45,000
drug screen that's
extremely good at detecting
660
00:39:45,066 --> 00:39:48,467
traces of drugs of
which there were none.
661
00:39:49,967 --> 00:39:53,266
Despite A.P.R.O.'s and
the family's best efforts,
662
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:57,667
Travis' reappearance does not
remain secret for long.
663
00:39:57,667 --> 00:40:01,500
The operator who
patched Travis through to call
664
00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:05,166
his sister's house
listened in on the call.
665
00:40:05,266 --> 00:40:08,166
Remember, this is 1975,
where they actually did have
666
00:40:08,266 --> 00:40:10,100
operators who patched
people through.
667
00:40:11,266 --> 00:40:13,867
She recognized the name
as he tried to make this,
668
00:40:13,867 --> 00:40:16,600
uh, collect call
from Travis Walton,
669
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:18,100
that this was big news.
670
00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:20,400
So she takes that information
671
00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:23,066
and leaks it
to the sheriff's office.
672
00:40:23,066 --> 00:40:25,467
His family was fully
aware that there had been
673
00:40:25,567 --> 00:40:28,000
an ensuing search for Travis,
674
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:31,367
and yet they chose not to let
the law enforcement community,
675
00:40:31,467 --> 00:40:34,066
um, know that he had been found.
676
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,967
Travis' family feels he is
677
00:40:36,967 --> 00:40:39,500
too emotionally unstable
to face questioning
678
00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:40,638
from the sheriff's department.
679
00:40:41,066 --> 00:40:43,900
For the first few days
after his return,
680
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,100
Travis' brother Duane acts
as the family's spokesperson.
681
00:40:48,166 --> 00:40:50,567
Obviously, Duane,
you know your own brother
682
00:40:50,567 --> 00:40:51,800
probably better than anybody else.
683
00:40:51,867 --> 00:40:53,400
Do you believe the story?
684
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,066
I've never seen him play
a practical joke in his adult life.
685
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,767
The veracious media
runs with the story.
686
00:41:01,867 --> 00:41:04,800
Before long, it's international news.
687
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,700
Well, now the story that has been hitting
688
00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:09,767
the headlines all over the United States
689
00:41:09,767 --> 00:41:10,638
is the one we told you about last week,
690
00:41:11,467 --> 00:41:13,500
of the man who disappeared
after seeing
691
00:41:13,567 --> 00:41:16,000
what his friends
thought was a flying saucer.
692
00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:18,166
After a five days search by police,
693
00:41:18,166 --> 00:41:21,467
Travis Walton has turned up
unharmed and he says
694
00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:24,567
that he was taken aboard
a spaceship but the police,
695
00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:26,900
of course, no way
of checking his story.
696
00:41:28,567 --> 00:41:30,166
As law enforcement
697
00:41:30,166 --> 00:41:34,200
and journalists scramble
hear the story firsthand,
698
00:41:34,266 --> 00:41:38,867
Travis remains sequestered
in a Phoenix hotel room
699
00:41:40,638 --> 00:41:44,066
reliving his experience
of abject horror.
700
00:42:01,266 --> 00:42:04,033
On November 14th, 1975,
701
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,266
four days after his return,
Travis Walton
702
00:42:07,266 --> 00:42:08,934
meets with Dr. James Harder
703
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,667
at the Aerial Phenomena
Research Organization
704
00:42:11,767 --> 00:42:13,266
in a Phoenix hotel room.
705
00:42:14,667 --> 00:42:16,567
Surrounded by his loved ones,
706
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:20,166
Dana and his brother Duane,
Travis prepares to go undergo
707
00:42:20,233 --> 00:42:23,967
a technique called
regressive hypnosis
708
00:42:24,033 --> 00:42:28,100
to help him face
his most petrifying memories.
709
00:42:55,734 --> 00:42:58,867
Physically, Travis is sitting
on the hotel room sofa...
710
00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:05,667
...but mentally, Dr. Harder
takes him back to the moment
711
00:43:05,767 --> 00:43:08,467
he was abducted
on board the alien ship
712
00:43:13,066 --> 00:43:16,670
and the next terrifying
five days of missing time.
713
00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:22,233
Visualize just what's
in front of you there.
714
00:43:24,166 --> 00:43:26,667
Tell me what it is
that your eyes see.
715
00:43:34,166 --> 00:43:36,166
I was laying on my back.
716
00:43:37,567 --> 00:43:39,266
I came to slowly...
717
00:43:40,667 --> 00:43:42,967
At first I thought
I was in a hospital.
718
00:43:44,266 --> 00:43:46,670
I felt like there was
something seriously wrong.
719
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,600
There was a light above me.
720
00:43:51,667 --> 00:43:54,667
It wasn't so bright I couldn't
look at it, but it sort of,
721
00:43:54,734 --> 00:43:58,467
uh, interfered with seeing
other things around me.
722
00:44:00,266 --> 00:44:03,767
But I was looking around
to see where I was.
723
00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:09,367
It was a very small space,
724
00:44:09,467 --> 00:44:12,967
but there was something lying
on my chest.
725
00:44:14,467 --> 00:44:16,670
There seem to be,
you know, some kind of, uh,
726
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:18,500
light coming from it.
727
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:24,667
When I looked beyond
the edge of that, I saw faces,
728
00:44:24,734 --> 00:44:28,033
but it was so blurry
that I kind of assumed
729
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,066
it was like, uh, doctors
wearing, uh, surgical masks.
730
00:44:33,066 --> 00:44:35,033
It was only a matter of seconds
731
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,600
before I realized that these
weren't human doctors.
732
00:44:39,834 --> 00:44:41,367
This was an alien face.
733
00:44:46,670 --> 00:44:48,367
They were about five foot tall, no hair,
734
00:44:48,834 --> 00:44:50,600
very white skin,
735
00:44:50,667 --> 00:44:53,867
small features except for large eyes.
736
00:44:55,867 --> 00:44:58,266
The beings Travis encounters,
737
00:44:58,266 --> 00:45:00,400
they're a striking resemblance
738
00:45:00,467 --> 00:45:05,266
to grey aliens reported in
other UFO abduction stories.
739
00:45:06,166 --> 00:45:08,834
Greys are the most
common description
740
00:45:08,834 --> 00:45:11,467
of some of these others
that have been visiting us.
741
00:45:12,734 --> 00:45:14,867
Three and a half to four feet tall,
742
00:45:14,934 --> 00:45:16,467
big black eyes,
743
00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:18,567
larger heads, not much of a nose,
744
00:45:18,667 --> 00:45:20,066
not much of a mouth.
745
00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:23,066
Spindly little things,
that's what he saw.
746
00:45:26,967 --> 00:45:30,166
To Travis,
this strange appearance
747
00:45:30,233 --> 00:45:34,567
and blank expressions
are unnerving.
748
00:45:34,567 --> 00:45:38,567
The feeling of pain,
the feeling of suffocation,
749
00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:42,166
at the same time
they expressed no emotion
750
00:45:42,266 --> 00:45:43,266
to their face.
751
00:45:43,266 --> 00:45:44,467
It seemed threatening.
752
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:46,670
I just freaked out at that point.
753
00:45:49,367 --> 00:45:51,600
And jumped off of the table there.
754
00:45:53,266 --> 00:45:56,467
And when I did,
this device fell off.
755
00:45:57,767 --> 00:46:01,467
Travis' survival
instincts kick in full force.
756
00:46:01,567 --> 00:46:03,266
It was were just fight or flight
757
00:46:04,166 --> 00:46:06,967
and I grabbed, um, rod or tube
758
00:46:07,033 --> 00:46:09,600
and just started swinging to the air.
759
00:46:11,467 --> 00:46:14,367
The only opening in
the room was beyond them.
760
00:46:17,667 --> 00:46:19,467
Suddenly and without warning,
761
00:46:19,467 --> 00:46:21,500
the aliens change course.
762
00:46:23,066 --> 00:46:24,367
They left the room.
763
00:46:25,233 --> 00:46:26,467
I was afraid they'd come back,
764
00:46:26,567 --> 00:46:31,233
so I left there, uh,
looking for a way out.
765
00:46:38,667 --> 00:46:42,867
The whole craft was lit up
in a way that I would consider
766
00:46:42,934 --> 00:46:46,467
to be pretty, pretty dim by,
you know, human standards.
767
00:46:48,567 --> 00:46:53,133
I felt like there was an
insufficient amount of air.
768
00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:55,667
Like I couldn't get enough
air just breathing.
769
00:46:55,767 --> 00:46:57,867
Air was thin but humid.
770
00:46:59,033 --> 00:47:01,367
Struggling to see
and desperate for air,
771
00:47:02,367 --> 00:47:04,367
Travis comes
across another door.
772
00:47:05,667 --> 00:47:09,000
The room appears to be empty
except for a single chair.
773
00:47:10,133 --> 00:47:13,467
As Travis approaches,
he notices the light
774
00:47:13,567 --> 00:47:15,367
in the room shift.
775
00:47:17,066 --> 00:47:19,400
There was some
kind of a projection
776
00:47:19,467 --> 00:47:21,767
or some kind of a viewing thing
777
00:47:21,834 --> 00:47:24,266
in this room where you could
see a map of stars.
778
00:47:27,166 --> 00:47:29,734
The points of lights
that came through it
779
00:47:29,734 --> 00:47:34,767
were not real visible
until I got near the chair.
780
00:47:34,867 --> 00:47:37,567
Away from the chair
the walls didn't seem
781
00:47:37,567 --> 00:47:39,867
to have those points
of lights so much.
782
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,767
Could it be
some kind of control room?
783
00:47:44,767 --> 00:47:46,670
Travis looks
for any means of escape.
784
00:47:47,734 --> 00:47:50,767
On the arm of
the chair was a screen
785
00:47:50,834 --> 00:47:55,133
and some colored spots,
uh, I took to be buttons.
786
00:47:56,266 --> 00:47:58,033
I was just thinking
these buttons
787
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,834
might open one of these
doorway looking things.
788
00:48:01,567 --> 00:48:04,967
Foolishly assuming that a door
789
00:48:05,033 --> 00:48:07,467
would just be opened to the air,
790
00:48:07,567 --> 00:48:09,367
and I could drop
to the ground, you know?
791
00:48:09,467 --> 00:48:11,233
Fifteen-20 feet.
792
00:48:11,233 --> 00:48:14,066
I could handle that
just to get out of there.
793
00:48:15,266 --> 00:48:16,670
The buttons have no effect.
794
00:48:17,834 --> 00:48:20,667
Travis has no choice but
to look for another way out.
795
00:48:21,867 --> 00:48:25,767
Just then he notices,
he's not alone.
796
00:48:28,166 --> 00:48:31,367
The form looks oddly familiar.
797
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:35,133
Could it be human?
798
00:48:39,066 --> 00:48:41,266
In a Phoenix hotel room,
799
00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:44,934
Travis Walton's loved ones
sit in stunned silence
800
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,533
as he recounts
the traumatic nightmare
801
00:48:47,533 --> 00:48:50,767
of being trapped aboard a UFO.
802
00:48:54,533 --> 00:48:55,934
I didn't actually hear the story
803
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,433
until he was put under hypnosis,
804
00:48:58,433 --> 00:49:00,233
and I was in the room
with him when...
805
00:49:00,233 --> 00:49:02,867
So when he told
the story it was really...
806
00:49:02,934 --> 00:49:06,934
Shocking, it was scary to me,
what he had to go through.
807
00:49:10,734 --> 00:49:13,266
After trying
in vain to open a doorway
808
00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:14,667
or escape hatch,
809
00:49:14,767 --> 00:49:17,867
Travis has no choice
but to return to the corridor
810
00:49:17,934 --> 00:49:20,767
and search
for another means of escape,
811
00:49:20,834 --> 00:49:25,567
only this time,
there's something or someone
812
00:49:25,634 --> 00:49:27,667
blocking his way.
813
00:49:27,767 --> 00:49:31,100
There was a what I took
to be a human being.
814
00:49:32,634 --> 00:49:36,166
I immediately just assume
this was air force, NASA,
815
00:49:37,047 --> 00:49:39,100
somebody, you know,
there to intervene
816
00:49:39,166 --> 00:49:42,166
and, uh, take me away
from these creatures.
817
00:49:45,667 --> 00:49:48,367
In a rare, archival interview,
818
00:49:48,433 --> 00:49:51,667
Travis describes
his encounter with the being.
819
00:49:52,767 --> 00:49:55,834
This was a...
A human-looking person.
820
00:49:56,867 --> 00:49:59,967
They'd pass in a crowd
as an individual.
821
00:50:02,033 --> 00:50:05,467
He was bigger than me,
taller, and more muscular.
822
00:50:05,533 --> 00:50:07,047
Very large individual.
823
00:50:07,047 --> 00:50:07,433
Very large individual.
824
00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:12,467
I went up and, uh,
tried to talk to this guy
825
00:50:13,266 --> 00:50:15,667
and, uh, he didn't answer me.
826
00:50:17,133 --> 00:50:19,166
When I started
yelling questions,
827
00:50:19,233 --> 00:50:21,066
trying to tell him,
"What are these things?
828
00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:22,634
Where am I?" You know,
829
00:50:22,634 --> 00:50:23,767
"Get me out of here."
830
00:50:23,834 --> 00:50:26,066
All those kind of things,
he didn't really seem to,
831
00:50:26,133 --> 00:50:28,100
uh, be responding
to anything I was saying.
832
00:50:29,867 --> 00:50:32,333
Instead, the suited stranger
833
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,100
takes Travis by the arm
834
00:50:34,166 --> 00:50:37,047
and escorts him further
down the corridor.
835
00:50:37,867 --> 00:50:39,967
I went down
the hallway with him,
836
00:50:40,033 --> 00:50:43,934
very dimly lit,
but lit from above.
837
00:50:45,166 --> 00:50:47,133
When we came to a door,
838
00:50:48,266 --> 00:50:50,767
I did not see
this human-looking individual
839
00:50:50,867 --> 00:50:53,367
do anything to make
the door open, but it did.
840
00:50:54,467 --> 00:50:57,333
Travis and his enigmatic escort
841
00:50:57,333 --> 00:51:01,567
entered what appears to be
some kind of an air lock.
842
00:51:01,634 --> 00:51:05,667
We went into a little booth-like
section of the hallway.
843
00:51:09,266 --> 00:51:11,333
Then, Travis is overcome
844
00:51:11,333 --> 00:51:13,767
by a sudden shift
in the environment.
845
00:51:15,033 --> 00:51:16,867
I could feel that the air
846
00:51:16,934 --> 00:51:18,433
coming in was cooler.
847
00:51:19,233 --> 00:51:21,533
I could breathe better,
848
00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:25,533
and that the outside light
was so much brighter by comparison.
849
00:51:29,567 --> 00:51:31,467
Travis describes being ushered
850
00:51:31,567 --> 00:51:34,000
from something
like an alien aircraft hanger
851
00:51:34,066 --> 00:51:36,967
in the seldom
seen BBC documentary.
852
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,266
He let me out of this craft,
853
00:51:42,367 --> 00:51:45,433
which appeared to be
parked inside of a,
854
00:51:45,433 --> 00:51:48,266
a larger building, or a larger craft.
855
00:51:48,367 --> 00:51:49,667
He just took me
right out of there
856
00:51:50,533 --> 00:51:52,333
down a hallway to a room
857
00:51:52,333 --> 00:51:54,767
where there were some other
people who looked like him.
858
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,433
These two beings
are not wearing helmets,
859
00:52:00,433 --> 00:52:02,166
giving Travis a clear look
860
00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:07,047
at what ufologists refer
to as "Nordic aliens."
861
00:52:07,367 --> 00:52:12,266
Tall, human-like figures,
Scandinavian in appearance.
862
00:52:13,667 --> 00:52:15,934
In the pantheon
of aliens that keep getting
863
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,367
described by people
who have had
864
00:52:17,433 --> 00:52:20,834
abduction experiences you have
primarily the greys...
865
00:52:24,767 --> 00:52:26,734
...but you also have something
called the Nordic.
866
00:52:26,734 --> 00:52:30,133
The Nordic has come
to represent basically
867
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:33,033
a human-looking alien.
868
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:37,047
In Travis' case, the Nordic he saw
was about six feet two inches tall,
869
00:52:38,567 --> 00:52:42,000
kind of brownish, blondish hair.
870
00:52:42,066 --> 00:52:45,734
Basically, like a Caucasian.
Could've been from Sweden.
871
00:52:49,367 --> 00:52:51,867
Travis' attention quickly shifts
872
00:52:51,967 --> 00:52:55,100
to an examination table
in the center of the room.
873
00:52:56,233 --> 00:52:58,567
The mysterious being
in the space suit
874
00:52:59,266 --> 00:53:00,667
pushes him toward it.
875
00:53:01,734 --> 00:53:03,467
He seemed to be trying to get me
876
00:53:03,533 --> 00:53:05,367
to get on the table
877
00:53:05,433 --> 00:53:07,047
and I was very much
resisting that.
878
00:53:07,867 --> 00:53:12,233
I became alarmed that he was
not answering my questions.
879
00:53:12,233 --> 00:53:14,233
I was obviously terrified
and asking,
880
00:53:14,233 --> 00:53:16,033
"Where are you taking me?
What's this all about?"
881
00:53:17,166 --> 00:53:19,667
Travis fights
with all his might,
882
00:53:19,734 --> 00:53:22,634
but the Nordics step in
and overpower him
883
00:53:22,634 --> 00:53:24,567
with superhuman strength.
884
00:53:26,166 --> 00:53:28,667
Very frightening, I was fighting back
885
00:53:28,734 --> 00:53:30,867
immediately, no longer cooperating.
886
00:53:30,967 --> 00:53:34,066
I thought I was pretty
strong in those days,
887
00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:37,047
but they didn't have too much
trouble getting me down on the table.
888
00:53:44,433 --> 00:53:46,166
They put this mask over my face,
889
00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:48,233
it's kind of like an oxygen mask.
890
00:53:48,233 --> 00:53:50,000
There was no hose connected to it,
891
00:53:50,066 --> 00:53:51,266
they put it over my face
892
00:53:51,333 --> 00:53:53,834
and that was the last thing
I knew, I just blacked out.
893
00:54:02,667 --> 00:54:05,266
Next thing
I remember was waking up
894
00:54:07,047 --> 00:54:08,367
outside, cold air
895
00:54:09,767 --> 00:54:11,266
coming into my clothes.
896
00:54:19,667 --> 00:54:21,433
In a Phoenix hotel room,
897
00:54:21,433 --> 00:54:23,467
Travis awakens from a trance,
898
00:54:24,734 --> 00:54:28,467
after recounting his harrowing
alien abduction experience.
899
00:54:29,867 --> 00:54:33,433
And to his loved ones, it's clear
900
00:54:33,433 --> 00:54:36,567
Travis will never be the same.
901
00:54:37,047 --> 00:54:38,867
He seemed really different.
902
00:54:38,967 --> 00:54:43,166
He seemed traumatized,
he seemed kind of scared.
903
00:54:43,233 --> 00:54:45,166
I felt sorry for him in a way,
904
00:54:45,233 --> 00:54:48,266
like I wanted to help him,
but I felt helpless.
905
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:50,634
Like, I couldn't do anything for him.
906
00:54:50,634 --> 00:54:53,333
But a trauma of alien contact
907
00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,166
was just the beginning.
908
00:54:55,233 --> 00:54:58,734
Travis' story would spark
a firestorm of debate
909
00:54:58,734 --> 00:55:00,967
and speculation that ignites
910
00:55:01,033 --> 00:55:05,767
the town of Snowflake
and engulfs the entire world.
911
00:55:18,266 --> 00:55:19,867
After a strenuous battery
912
00:55:19,967 --> 00:55:22,667
of medical tests
and regressive hypnotherapy
913
00:55:22,734 --> 00:55:28,467
in Phoenix, Travis Walton
returns home to Snowflake.
914
00:55:31,533 --> 00:55:34,667
When I saw Travis
the next time, he was...
915
00:55:35,266 --> 00:55:37,367
He was skinny.
916
00:55:37,433 --> 00:55:40,573
But the relief and the joy
that I saw on our mother
917
00:55:43,166 --> 00:55:44,367
was awesome.
918
00:55:44,433 --> 00:55:46,166
How she just stood there
and cried.
919
00:55:47,367 --> 00:55:49,467
And my mother didn't cry
about anything.
920
00:55:50,367 --> 00:55:52,567
But over that she certainly did.
921
00:55:52,667 --> 00:55:56,667
We thought we had lost
a family member.
922
00:56:00,867 --> 00:56:02,166
The media frenzy,
923
00:56:02,233 --> 00:56:04,100
sparked by the abduction story,
924
00:56:04,166 --> 00:56:07,133
only intensifies as
Travis re-emerges.
925
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,573
Oh, it was a circus.
926
00:56:11,934 --> 00:56:14,934
Mother didn't have a fence
around our front yard.
927
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,367
There was probably
100 people out there.
928
00:56:17,433 --> 00:56:19,767
Reporters, all kinds of cameras.
929
00:56:20,867 --> 00:56:22,166
In an effort to keep
930
00:56:22,266 --> 00:56:26,667
the camera hounds at bay,
a still traumatized Travis
931
00:56:26,767 --> 00:56:29,367
reluctantly grants
his first interviews.
932
00:56:32,667 --> 00:56:34,367
Mr. Walton, how are you?
933
00:56:34,467 --> 00:56:35,767
I'm feeling a lot better.
934
00:56:36,467 --> 00:56:38,166
Where were you?
935
00:56:38,233 --> 00:56:39,667
I don't know.
936
00:56:42,133 --> 00:56:43,867
Did you tried
to communicate with them?
937
00:56:43,967 --> 00:56:46,767
Well, I tried
to communicate with them
938
00:56:46,867 --> 00:56:48,100
but there was no answer.
939
00:56:48,166 --> 00:56:50,066
They never talked to me or anything.
940
00:56:51,433 --> 00:56:53,000
The unwanted scrutiny
941
00:56:53,066 --> 00:56:55,166
pushes the town's people
to the brink.
942
00:56:56,634 --> 00:56:59,767
I thought the media
attention was insane.
943
00:56:59,834 --> 00:57:01,667
There was so much interest in it,
944
00:57:01,734 --> 00:57:04,433
and at the time I just
remember thinking to myself,
945
00:57:04,433 --> 00:57:07,533
"How can these people
really believe this story?" You know.
946
00:57:07,533 --> 00:57:09,000
Kinda skeptical.
947
00:57:09,066 --> 00:57:10,573
You know, seeing is believing,
and I don't see nothing.
948
00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:16,166
It was the talk
of the town for a long time,
949
00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:19,467
and I think there were people
that believed in UFOs
950
00:57:19,533 --> 00:57:23,767
and people that felt that people
that believed in UFOs were crazy.
951
00:57:26,867 --> 00:57:28,567
I didn't know if I went to a bar
952
00:57:28,634 --> 00:57:30,533
if somebody's gonna buy me a beer or,
953
00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:32,367
or take a punch at me, you now.
954
00:57:32,433 --> 00:57:34,033
New rumors circulate
955
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:36,033
that this was all a hoax.
956
00:57:36,967 --> 00:57:39,867
The crew, once suspected of murder,
957
00:57:40,573 --> 00:57:44,166
now find themselves
scrutinized alongside Travis' family,
958
00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:47,667
accused of pulling off
a massive con.
959
00:57:50,767 --> 00:57:52,467
You couldn't walk through town
960
00:57:52,533 --> 00:57:54,100
without people looking at you.
961
00:57:54,166 --> 00:57:57,000
When he came back they thought
it was a big ole joke.
962
00:57:59,667 --> 00:58:02,133
Ten days after that
happened I left the area.
963
00:58:02,867 --> 00:58:05,367
Went somewhere where
nobody knew me
964
00:58:05,467 --> 00:58:08,266
and didn't know my involvement
in that and never told a soul.
965
00:58:09,467 --> 00:58:10,573
It was tough.
966
00:58:11,667 --> 00:58:14,367
I think people looked at us in a way
967
00:58:14,467 --> 00:58:17,667
that we were putting on a show.
968
00:58:20,734 --> 00:58:22,567
Chief among the skeptics
969
00:58:22,667 --> 00:58:26,767
is a man who would become
Travis Walton's nemesis.
970
00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:30,767
The king of UFO debunkers,
Phillip Klass.
971
00:58:31,767 --> 00:58:33,533
Phillip Klass is probably
972
00:58:33,533 --> 00:58:38,100
the most well-renowned
UFO skeptic, uh,
973
00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:40,573
debunker, uh, maybe of all history.
974
00:58:41,767 --> 00:58:44,033
He had devoted
a great deal of time
975
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,667
and as a matter of fact had
written books ridiculing
976
00:58:46,767 --> 00:58:50,133
the idea that UFOs should be
considered serious at all.
977
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:54,634
In my opinion, the belief in UFOs
978
00:58:54,634 --> 00:58:57,767
will persist as long as there
are people on this earth,
979
00:58:58,467 --> 00:59:00,233
uh, but it is a myth.
980
00:59:01,867 --> 00:59:06,734
Now, Phillip Klass was a very
bright man, a journalist.
981
00:59:06,734 --> 00:59:10,433
He just didn't buy
the Travis Walton story.
982
00:59:10,573 --> 00:59:12,867
He thought these guys made it up,
983
00:59:12,934 --> 00:59:16,233
and he set out to prove
that anyway that he could.
984
00:59:16,233 --> 00:59:18,100
Klass does extensive research
985
00:59:18,166 --> 00:59:21,433
into the Walton story
and claims the crew
986
00:59:21,433 --> 00:59:25,000
led by Mike Rogers
concocted the UFO scheme
987
00:59:25,066 --> 00:59:27,667
to get out of their
logging contract.
988
00:59:27,767 --> 00:59:31,567
We had completed probably
over 80% of the contract,
989
00:59:31,634 --> 00:59:34,767
but we were also nearing
the completion deadline
990
00:59:34,867 --> 00:59:36,734
on the contract.
991
00:59:36,734 --> 00:59:39,000
And they wanted to
get it done before the snow
992
00:59:39,066 --> 00:59:40,573
started coming because
this was in November.
993
00:59:41,967 --> 00:59:45,667
So they were trying to hurry up
and get it done before it defaulted.
994
00:59:45,767 --> 00:59:47,567
The skeptics made much of this
995
00:59:47,634 --> 00:59:50,266
that this whole things
was some kind of a scheme
996
00:59:50,333 --> 00:59:52,567
to get out of, uh,
finishing the contract,
997
00:59:52,634 --> 00:59:55,767
but it was not at all
to Mike's advantage
998
00:59:55,867 --> 00:59:57,567
for the contract to end.
999
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,000
There was a lot of money
being held back.
1000
01:00:02,333 --> 01:00:04,166
And we had completed
most of it,
1001
01:00:05,266 --> 01:00:08,166
but once the incident happened
there was no way
1002
01:00:08,233 --> 01:00:10,233
that the contract
was gonna get finished.
1003
01:00:11,667 --> 01:00:13,266
After that happened,
1004
01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:16,333
Mike couldn't get that crew
to go back out there.
1005
01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:18,367
Maybe some of them
might've been willing,
1006
01:00:18,467 --> 01:00:20,333
but most of them were not.
1007
01:00:22,767 --> 01:00:25,467
They brought in another crew
1008
01:00:25,533 --> 01:00:27,567
to finish what little we had left.
1009
01:00:27,667 --> 01:00:31,033
Much to Mike's
financial disadvantage.
1010
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:34,467
And if Mike Rogers
did think up the UFO story,
1011
01:00:35,567 --> 01:00:37,367
how did he get
his six crewmates
1012
01:00:37,433 --> 01:00:39,934
to go along with his
farfetched scheme?
1013
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,934
If you really think about it,
1014
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,867
the idea that you would
conspire with, uh, six or seven people
1015
01:00:46,967 --> 01:00:49,767
to tell an outrageous story
that would cause people
1016
01:00:49,867 --> 01:00:51,767
to think you might be a murderer,
1017
01:00:51,867 --> 01:00:53,367
it just defies logic.
1018
01:00:54,433 --> 01:00:56,467
The level of
criticism he and the crew
1019
01:00:56,567 --> 01:01:00,333
faced is yet another shock
to Travis and his family.
1020
01:01:01,467 --> 01:01:03,467
I don't like it
when people came out
1021
01:01:03,533 --> 01:01:04,867
with accusations against him.
1022
01:01:04,934 --> 01:01:06,233
I knew he was telling the truth,
1023
01:01:06,233 --> 01:01:09,634
I believed him and that was it.
1024
01:01:12,166 --> 01:01:14,567
Well, there was from the get-go
1025
01:01:14,634 --> 01:01:16,767
a great deal of resistance.
1026
01:01:16,834 --> 01:01:20,033
The idea that there
could be any life
1027
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,233
in the universe,
other than human life.
1028
01:01:24,734 --> 01:01:28,000
And I think that's
a very close minded
1029
01:01:28,066 --> 01:01:29,467
and limited thinking.
1030
01:01:30,867 --> 01:01:36,233
It's maybe partially
motivated out of fear or people
1031
01:01:36,233 --> 01:01:39,533
feeling that it was a threat
to religious convictions.
1032
01:01:40,573 --> 01:01:45,233
But whatever it was,
many of the accusations
1033
01:01:45,233 --> 01:01:49,233
that were levied
were easily disproved
1034
01:01:50,467 --> 01:01:54,166
because they were contraries
to verifiable facts.
1035
01:01:56,033 --> 01:01:57,934
Yet some
allegations would haunt
1036
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,433
Travis Walton for years,
leading him to wonder
1037
01:02:02,433 --> 01:02:05,767
if there's a coordinated
campaign underway
1038
01:02:05,834 --> 01:02:07,533
to discredit him,
1039
01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:10,573
and if so, who's behind it?
1040
01:02:22,433 --> 01:02:24,634
In Snowflake, Arizona,
1041
01:02:24,634 --> 01:02:28,166
alien abductee Travis Walton
and his loved ones
1042
01:02:28,266 --> 01:02:31,767
struggle to get some
semblance of normal life.
1043
01:02:33,834 --> 01:02:35,667
About two years later
we were married.
1044
01:02:37,867 --> 01:02:40,166
We dated steady
for those two years.
1045
01:02:41,567 --> 01:02:43,433
Fell in love and decided to get married.
1046
01:02:44,731 --> 01:02:47,133
We tried to make it
like nothing happened,
1047
01:02:47,133 --> 01:02:48,634
so we didn't talk about it a lot.
1048
01:02:51,133 --> 01:02:52,834
But try as they might,
1049
01:02:52,834 --> 01:02:55,266
Travis and Dana
find themselves hounded
1050
01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:57,734
by small town gossip.
1051
01:02:57,734 --> 01:02:59,767
You know, I could see
people looking at me
1052
01:02:59,867 --> 01:03:02,567
in the store and I could tell
they were thinking, you know,
1053
01:03:02,667 --> 01:03:04,133
things about me.
1054
01:03:04,133 --> 01:03:06,333
And they start
making up rumors
1055
01:03:06,333 --> 01:03:09,667
saying, "Well, the crew was
probably all using drugs.
1056
01:03:09,734 --> 01:03:11,867
They were all hallucinating."
1057
01:03:11,967 --> 01:03:14,233
We're talking in the '70s
1058
01:03:14,233 --> 01:03:14,731
and what really happened
1059
01:03:14,731 --> 01:03:15,567
and what really happened
1060
01:03:15,667 --> 01:03:18,867
if there was drugs involved,
alcohol or whatever.
1061
01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:22,367
Travis' medical tests reveal
1062
01:03:22,467 --> 01:03:25,634
no sign of drugs in his system.
1063
01:03:25,634 --> 01:03:29,333
Travis didn't do drugs.
Travis hardly even ever drank.
1064
01:03:29,333 --> 01:03:31,467
If he did, I don't even think
he did drink.
1065
01:03:32,967 --> 01:03:35,233
That job was
pretty dangerous, actually.
1066
01:03:35,233 --> 01:03:38,033
Those chainsaws don't slice you,
1067
01:03:40,433 --> 01:03:42,567
they tear chunks of meat out.
1068
01:03:42,667 --> 01:03:44,731
You can't get high or drink
and do that job, you know.
1069
01:03:45,834 --> 01:03:47,367
I don't know anybody who could.
1070
01:03:50,367 --> 01:03:52,066
Despite the naysayers,
1071
01:03:52,133 --> 01:03:54,734
Travis and the crew
have their champions.
1072
01:03:55,834 --> 01:03:58,033
Most notably groups like A.P.R.O.,
1073
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:02,166
who gather and examine evidence
to support the abduction claims.
1074
01:04:03,033 --> 01:04:04,367
First on their list,
1075
01:04:04,433 --> 01:04:07,166
Travis Walton's
physical condition.
1076
01:04:08,266 --> 01:04:10,567
The people who came
and got Travis Walton
1077
01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:14,731
found a severely dehydrated
guy who didn't look good.
1078
01:04:15,367 --> 01:04:18,767
He was in the same clothes
that he was wearing
1079
01:04:18,834 --> 01:04:20,066
when he had disappeared
1080
01:04:20,133 --> 01:04:22,066
and when they
weighed him later,
1081
01:04:22,133 --> 01:04:25,367
uh, that next morning, they found
out he was at least ten pounds
1082
01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:28,000
lighter than when he had gone
up in the mountains.
1083
01:04:30,767 --> 01:04:33,533
Yet Travis' blood
test provides the A.P.R.O.
1084
01:04:33,533 --> 01:04:36,367
doctors with some
striking information.
1085
01:04:38,033 --> 01:04:40,033
Part of, uh,
what they were looking for
1086
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:43,166
was the presence
of what they call ketones,
1087
01:04:43,233 --> 01:04:44,731
which was to indicate
whether my body
1088
01:04:46,233 --> 01:04:50,433
had been consuming
its own reserves, you know,
1089
01:04:50,433 --> 01:04:53,333
fat, even muscle
in order to maintain life.
1090
01:04:54,266 --> 01:04:56,834
He did lose ten to 12 pounds
1091
01:04:56,834 --> 01:04:58,266
in a short period of time.
1092
01:04:58,367 --> 01:05:00,266
He was severely dehydrated
1093
01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:02,667
but yet no ketones were present.
1094
01:05:02,767 --> 01:05:07,100
So, it is possible that these
visitors knew enough
1095
01:05:07,166 --> 01:05:08,333
about human biology.
1096
01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:10,767
They tried to nourish him
in some way.
1097
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:13,667
And if he wasn't picked up
1098
01:05:14,731 --> 01:05:16,166
after his crewmates left him
in the woods,
1099
01:05:16,266 --> 01:05:20,100
how did Travis survive
for those five days?
1100
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,867
To believe he was left out
1101
01:05:23,934 --> 01:05:27,033
in Sitgreaves National Forest,
not only overnight,
1102
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,834
but for five days is outrageous.
1103
01:05:28,834 --> 01:05:31,100
At night it gets very, very cold.
1104
01:05:31,166 --> 01:05:34,166
The guy had a jean jacket
and, and a pair of jeans on.
1105
01:05:34,233 --> 01:05:36,634
It would've been a tough,
tough things to survive.
1106
01:05:37,767 --> 01:05:40,033
A.P.R.O. researches in Arizona
1107
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:41,567
also uncover evidence
1108
01:05:41,634 --> 01:05:44,731
of an increasing level
of UFO activity
1109
01:05:44,734 --> 01:05:47,867
in the months leading
up to the abduction.
1110
01:05:47,967 --> 01:05:50,467
We had an event
that takes place in May,
1111
01:05:50,567 --> 01:05:53,133
just outside the hills of Tucson.
1112
01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:56,100
We have a mother with her
children who comes across
1113
01:05:56,166 --> 01:06:01,333
a silvery glowing object,
but most interestingly,
1114
01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:04,634
she hears a low rumbling sound
1115
01:06:04,634 --> 01:06:07,734
that's very similar
to what Travis described
1116
01:06:07,734 --> 01:06:09,834
right before this thing
appeared to take off.
1117
01:06:14,731 --> 01:06:17,867
Perhaps the strongest evidence of all
1118
01:06:17,934 --> 01:06:20,166
comes from the sheriff's department.
1119
01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:23,767
To have six witnesses all testifying
1120
01:06:23,867 --> 01:06:28,467
in detail to the same events,
and all passing
1121
01:06:28,567 --> 01:06:31,567
lie detector tests
from the state police.
1122
01:06:33,066 --> 01:06:35,033
People have gone
back and forth over the years
1123
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:37,000
about what a polygraph
actually means,
1124
01:06:37,066 --> 01:06:40,467
but one thing we do know,
though, is when somebody passes it
1125
01:06:40,567 --> 01:06:44,333
and it's just them, it gives you
a certain amount of legitimacy.
1126
01:06:45,433 --> 01:06:47,066
But when you have six
different people
1127
01:06:47,133 --> 01:06:48,734
taking a lie detector test
1128
01:06:49,734 --> 01:06:51,567
and they all tell the same story,
1129
01:06:51,667 --> 01:06:54,934
your chances that the story
they're telling is accurate
1130
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,000
is about, uh, a million to one.
1131
01:06:59,467 --> 01:07:02,233
Dr. James Harder,
he was saying
1132
01:07:02,233 --> 01:07:05,433
that the evidence to support
that this really happened
1133
01:07:05,433 --> 01:07:08,333
would've been sufficient
to convict a person
1134
01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:10,867
of murder in an American court of law.
1135
01:07:12,734 --> 01:07:14,731
On February 7th, 1976,
1136
01:07:15,967 --> 01:07:17,967
Travis and his brother Duane
1137
01:07:18,033 --> 01:07:20,533
take their own lie detector tests.
1138
01:07:21,433 --> 01:07:24,367
The results shocked everyone.
1139
01:07:29,266 --> 01:07:31,567
In February of 1976,
1140
01:07:31,667 --> 01:07:34,333
Travis Walton and his brother Duane
1141
01:07:34,333 --> 01:07:36,867
submit to polygraph examinations.
1142
01:07:39,133 --> 01:07:40,533
They both pass.
1143
01:07:42,367 --> 01:07:44,367
Landing further credibility
1144
01:07:44,433 --> 01:07:46,667
to Travis' UFO abduction claims.
1145
01:07:54,266 --> 01:07:56,266
For years after the incident,
1146
01:07:56,409 --> 01:07:58,266
Travis and his six crew members
1147
01:07:58,367 --> 01:08:00,867
never waver from their story.
1148
01:08:00,934 --> 01:08:04,166
Eventually, the tide
of public opinion
1149
01:08:04,233 --> 01:08:06,000
turns in their favor.
1150
01:08:08,266 --> 01:08:12,166
In 1975, when
the Walton case is big news,
1151
01:08:12,233 --> 01:08:16,033
the government's institutional
response to UFOs back then
1152
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:19,333
was, "It's probably not
a real thing, don't sweat it.
1153
01:08:19,333 --> 01:08:20,867
Go on about your lives."
1154
01:08:22,533 --> 01:08:24,166
Now the government
says a couple
1155
01:08:24,266 --> 01:08:25,834
of really profound things.
1156
01:08:26,409 --> 01:08:28,967
First of all, they have
confirmed that there are
1157
01:08:29,033 --> 01:08:32,266
many objects out there
and that they're real
1158
01:08:32,367 --> 01:08:34,767
and that they're unidentified.
1159
01:08:34,867 --> 01:08:36,967
And secondly, they said,
"We don't make them."
1160
01:08:38,266 --> 01:08:40,834
So, lots of people
believed in them before,
1161
01:08:40,834 --> 01:08:43,166
but now we have a more of a sense
1162
01:08:43,233 --> 01:08:45,867
they are real because our own
government is admitting it.
1163
01:08:47,767 --> 01:08:49,567
Oh, got it!
1164
01:08:56,409 --> 01:08:58,066
And the attitude
in the Southwestern state,
1165
01:08:58,133 --> 01:09:00,734
known for some
of the biggest UFO sightings
1166
01:09:00,734 --> 01:09:03,467
in the world has also changed.
1167
01:09:04,767 --> 01:09:09,667
I've known, uh,
Travis Walton for a long time.
1168
01:09:09,767 --> 01:09:12,967
After seeing UFOs
in New Mexico, Arizona
1169
01:09:13,033 --> 01:09:16,533
and California,
I said, "Well, there must be
1170
01:09:16,533 --> 01:09:18,867
something that,
uh... To what he said."
1171
01:09:20,233 --> 01:09:22,066
I do believe that there are UFOs.
1172
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:26,266
But you see things
cruising around up there
1173
01:09:26,409 --> 01:09:27,800
it's like,
"What the heck was that?
1174
01:09:27,867 --> 01:09:31,266
No, okay, is that a satellite?
No, it's moving a little bit too fast."
1175
01:09:31,367 --> 01:09:33,233
Do you believe
there's something out there?
1176
01:09:33,233 --> 01:09:34,367
I think so.
1177
01:09:37,867 --> 01:09:40,266
Our tales completely switched around
1178
01:09:40,333 --> 01:09:42,567
where four out of five
people do believe it now.
1179
01:09:42,667 --> 01:09:44,367
Before they didn't.
1180
01:09:44,433 --> 01:09:47,367
You know, it was
exactly the opposite.
1181
01:09:47,433 --> 01:09:51,767
I'm sorry that Allen
and Dwayne Smith aren't here,
1182
01:09:51,867 --> 01:09:55,767
because for years people
just thought we were nuts.
1183
01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:59,166
Now, you've got people
who do believe,
1184
01:09:59,233 --> 01:10:03,667
and Allen and Dwayne Smith
aren't here to, to see that.
1185
01:10:05,266 --> 01:10:07,367
The shift in public perception
1186
01:10:07,467 --> 01:10:09,367
began in 1978
1187
01:10:11,467 --> 01:10:13,734
when Travis Walton wrote
1188
01:10:13,734 --> 01:10:16,634
and published a book
about his ordeal.
1189
01:10:18,367 --> 01:10:21,367
The Walton Experience
is the first book written
1190
01:10:21,433 --> 01:10:23,266
by a UFO abductee,
1191
01:10:23,367 --> 01:10:25,834
and it's sort of withstood
the test of time.
1192
01:10:26,934 --> 01:10:28,467
My impression of first reading
1193
01:10:28,567 --> 01:10:31,467
Travis' book,
it was so well written
1194
01:10:31,533 --> 01:10:35,333
that he presents the arguments
before his case
1195
01:10:35,333 --> 01:10:37,266
and against his case
1196
01:10:37,367 --> 01:10:41,634
and takes each individual
criticism and debunks it one by one.
1197
01:10:43,467 --> 01:10:45,266
What it allowed readers to do
1198
01:10:45,333 --> 01:10:47,867
for the first time
is to get in his head.
1199
01:10:47,934 --> 01:10:52,066
This is an honest man,
who' trying to tell us
1200
01:10:52,133 --> 01:10:53,734
what really happened to him.
1201
01:10:56,567 --> 01:10:58,667
Travis' story catches the attention
1202
01:10:58,734 --> 01:11:00,367
of Hollywood
1203
01:11:00,467 --> 01:11:03,166
and on March 12th, 1993,
1204
01:11:03,233 --> 01:11:07,433
Paramount Pictures
releases Fire in the Sky.
1205
01:11:09,567 --> 01:11:12,433
A film based on his book.
1206
01:11:12,433 --> 01:11:14,767
Talking about
the Travis Walton abduction,
1207
01:11:14,867 --> 01:11:17,834
there was X-amount of people
that sort of watched it
1208
01:11:17,834 --> 01:11:20,266
when it happened real time
with news coverage,
1209
01:11:20,333 --> 01:11:22,867
there were a few more
that read the book,
1210
01:11:22,967 --> 01:11:26,000
but then there were a lot more
that watched the movie.
1211
01:11:27,066 --> 01:11:29,166
And the people
who watched the movie
1212
01:11:29,266 --> 01:11:31,166
had their minds open
1213
01:11:31,233 --> 01:11:34,233
to the possibility that
an abduction could happen
1214
01:11:34,233 --> 01:11:37,100
because the movie starts with
"based on a true story."
1215
01:11:39,967 --> 01:11:41,367
After the movie was made,
1216
01:11:41,467 --> 01:11:44,033
people became more
and more enlightened I guess.
1217
01:11:44,767 --> 01:11:46,367
More and more people believed.
1218
01:11:46,467 --> 01:11:49,233
And more people came up to me
and said that they supported us,
1219
01:11:49,233 --> 01:11:51,133
so... That was...
That was great.
1220
01:11:52,233 --> 01:11:53,834
The media forces Travis
1221
01:11:53,834 --> 01:11:56,409
into the spotlight
once more to share
1222
01:11:57,133 --> 01:12:00,567
the terrifying true story
behind the movie.
1223
01:12:01,467 --> 01:12:04,567
It was glowing,
disk-shaped object.
1224
01:12:04,667 --> 01:12:06,834
Uh, it's kinda, like,
shaped like two pie pans.
1225
01:12:06,834 --> 01:12:09,867
Placed lip to lip
with a dome on top
1226
01:12:09,934 --> 01:12:13,233
and it was glowing,
kind of a golden, uh, yellow color.
1227
01:12:15,667 --> 01:12:18,066
Like clockwork, Travis' credibility
1228
01:12:18,133 --> 01:12:19,367
comes under attack.
1229
01:12:20,867 --> 01:12:23,667
All the familiar
skeptics re-emerge,
1230
01:12:23,734 --> 01:12:25,634
including Philip Klass.
1231
01:12:26,667 --> 01:12:29,867
But this time,
Travis has the last word.
1232
01:12:32,367 --> 01:12:34,567
Are you saying,
Phillip, that all seven
1233
01:12:34,667 --> 01:12:36,133
of these people are lying?
1234
01:12:36,133 --> 01:12:38,834
I'm afraid we have
to say that on the basis
1235
01:12:38,834 --> 01:12:40,467
of physical evidence.
1236
01:12:40,567 --> 01:12:41,634
Meaning?
1237
01:12:41,667 --> 01:12:43,634
Physical evidence
that should've been there
1238
01:12:43,634 --> 01:12:44,767
but was not.
1239
01:12:44,767 --> 01:12:46,567
Why are you laughing, Travis?
1240
01:12:46,634 --> 01:12:49,066
Well, because this is typical
of the sort of reasoning pattern
1241
01:12:49,133 --> 01:12:51,767
this man uses in attacking
all UFO cases.
1242
01:12:51,867 --> 01:12:54,567
Uh, he's equating
the absence of evidence
1243
01:12:54,667 --> 01:12:56,100
to be the evidence of absence.
1244
01:12:58,066 --> 01:13:00,634
The film's release
is a moral victory
1245
01:13:00,634 --> 01:13:03,433
for Travis Walton
and his crewmates.
1246
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,233
Fire in the Sky.
1247
01:13:06,233 --> 01:13:09,033
It wasn't just a close
encounters of the third kind
1248
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:11,767
type of movie, this is
something based on real life.
1249
01:13:11,867 --> 01:13:14,533
This is what happened
to a man and six other
1250
01:13:14,533 --> 01:13:15,934
of his crewmembers.
1251
01:13:19,433 --> 01:13:22,133
We can't just easily
dismiss abduction cases
1252
01:13:22,133 --> 01:13:24,767
because look at all
the evidence in favor of this one.
1253
01:13:26,634 --> 01:13:29,266
In the aftermath
of Fire in the Sky,
1254
01:13:29,367 --> 01:13:32,066
a new generation
of UFO investigators
1255
01:13:32,133 --> 01:13:34,333
take up Travis' cause.
1256
01:13:34,333 --> 01:13:37,166
Can they find actual
physical evidence
1257
01:13:37,233 --> 01:13:39,367
to prove Travis' story
1258
01:13:39,433 --> 01:13:41,567
beyond any doubt?
1259
01:13:45,767 --> 01:13:47,266
In 2014,
1260
01:13:49,266 --> 01:13:50,667
UFO researcher
1261
01:13:50,767 --> 01:13:52,667
and documentarian, Ben Hansen,
1262
01:13:52,734 --> 01:13:54,333
meets Travis Walton
1263
01:13:54,333 --> 01:13:57,533
at the site of his UFO
abduction to examine
1264
01:13:57,533 --> 01:14:01,567
any remaining evidence
of Travis' alien encounter.
1265
01:14:02,867 --> 01:14:06,734
Years ago Travis, uh,
and I were filming, um,
1266
01:14:06,734 --> 01:14:10,767
kind of a survey before
we had a conference here.
1267
01:14:10,834 --> 01:14:13,166
So, right here
is where we determined
1268
01:14:14,386 --> 01:14:15,934
through the witnesses
and especially Travis' recollection
1269
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,734
where this object
was hovering.
1270
01:14:18,734 --> 01:14:21,367
This is the first time
we're gonna open it up to the public.
1271
01:14:21,467 --> 01:14:23,166
We didn't want
the public coming in here,
1272
01:14:23,266 --> 01:14:27,367
knowing the location and start
taking stuff or planting things.
1273
01:14:27,467 --> 01:14:30,266
We wanted to know exactly
what kind of evidence,
1274
01:14:30,367 --> 01:14:31,567
if anything, was left over.
1275
01:14:32,834 --> 01:14:34,433
Ben and the research team
1276
01:14:34,433 --> 01:14:37,000
take a methodical approach
to the date collection.
1277
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:43,834
We gritted this
whole area and we treated it
1278
01:14:44,386 --> 01:14:45,000
like a crime scene.
1279
01:14:46,233 --> 01:14:49,667
While we're going through
everything, the topsoil, uh,
1280
01:14:49,734 --> 01:14:52,266
we're looking at rocks
to see if they're magnetic,
1281
01:14:52,367 --> 01:14:54,867
we come across some
of these tree stumps.
1282
01:14:56,066 --> 01:14:58,967
Now these have broken off
shortly after the incident.
1283
01:14:59,033 --> 01:15:01,567
You can actually count
back the rings, of course,
1284
01:15:01,634 --> 01:15:04,066
and see this tree
would've been here 1975.
1285
01:15:05,133 --> 01:15:06,533
On closer inspection
1286
01:15:06,533 --> 01:15:09,934
of the tree rings,
Ben and Travis noticed
1287
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,433
something very strange indeed.
1288
01:15:12,433 --> 01:15:14,386
If you think of a tree ring,
1289
01:15:14,767 --> 01:15:17,967
they're usually very equally sized,
1290
01:15:18,033 --> 01:15:20,567
uh, concentric circles.
1291
01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:22,867
Okay, on all sides.
1292
01:15:25,066 --> 01:15:28,367
But these trees
had something unique.
1293
01:15:28,433 --> 01:15:31,467
The rings on the side
facing the clearing
1294
01:15:32,166 --> 01:15:33,767
was spaced out further.
1295
01:15:37,567 --> 01:15:39,667
Meaning there was a greater
volume of growth
1296
01:15:39,767 --> 01:15:42,367
on that side
of the tree alone.
1297
01:15:42,467 --> 01:15:44,386
And we started noticing
this as we're going around
1298
01:15:44,634 --> 01:15:47,867
in a circle and came across
the discovery
1299
01:15:47,967 --> 01:15:50,033
that they all seemed to be pointing
1300
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,066
in a direction towards the center.
1301
01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:54,834
The epicenter where
the craft was hovering.
1302
01:16:01,433 --> 01:16:03,867
Could radiation from the UFO,
1303
01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:07,133
as evidenced by the Geiger
counter readings at the site
1304
01:16:07,133 --> 01:16:11,834
in 1975, have caused
these trees to mutate?
1305
01:16:13,033 --> 01:16:14,386
I started researching a bit
1306
01:16:15,533 --> 01:16:16,834
and I found a couple of studies
1307
01:16:16,834 --> 01:16:18,467
that happened after Chernobyl.
1308
01:16:27,567 --> 01:16:30,467
The studies found
that these trees grow
1309
01:16:30,533 --> 01:16:33,233
exponentially greater
than any other time period.
1310
01:16:34,767 --> 01:16:36,166
So is that what happened here?
1311
01:16:39,166 --> 01:16:41,667
At an independent lab in Ohio,
1312
01:16:41,734 --> 01:16:44,386
the soil samples taken from
the site are tested against
1313
01:16:44,734 --> 01:16:46,467
to control group.
1314
01:16:46,533 --> 01:16:49,934
The findings blow everyone away.
1315
01:16:52,233 --> 01:16:55,533
There was a higher
concentration of iron
1316
01:16:55,533 --> 01:17:00,233
and other ferrous materials
as compared to the controlled
1317
01:17:00,233 --> 01:17:02,467
samples which were
much further away.
1318
01:17:02,567 --> 01:17:03,834
Now what does that mean?
1319
01:17:03,834 --> 01:17:07,934
Other, uh, notable UFO cases
have indicated sometimes
1320
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,000
a trace evidence
of ferrous materials
1321
01:17:12,066 --> 01:17:14,386
as if something, um, creating
a large magnetic field
1322
01:17:16,634 --> 01:17:19,967
was pulling these particles up
from the lower layers.
1323
01:17:24,066 --> 01:17:26,233
Based on these findings,
1324
01:17:26,233 --> 01:17:29,567
Ben Hansen and many other
open-minded researchers
1325
01:17:29,634 --> 01:17:31,767
draw the same conclusion.
1326
01:17:34,033 --> 01:17:36,533
The Travis Walton abduction case
1327
01:17:36,533 --> 01:17:39,634
offers perhaps
the best evidence to date
1328
01:17:39,634 --> 01:17:43,066
of alien visitation to planet Earth.
1329
01:17:45,033 --> 01:17:48,467
I can say that I fully
believe what he experienced
1330
01:17:48,567 --> 01:17:51,734
is how he and the crew experiences
1331
01:17:51,734 --> 01:17:53,066
very strange event.
1332
01:17:55,266 --> 01:17:57,433
But as Walton's
story continues to be
1333
01:17:57,433 --> 01:18:01,066
more accepted as truth,
frightening questions remain.
1334
01:18:03,166 --> 01:18:07,467
Who are these alien creatures
and what do they want?
1335
01:18:18,567 --> 01:18:21,533
Travis Walton makes one final trip
1336
01:18:21,533 --> 01:18:25,433
from his home in Snowflake
to the site of his alien abduction.
1337
01:18:27,066 --> 01:18:30,867
It's, It's just, um, kind of
a PTSD kind of a thing.
1338
01:18:32,467 --> 01:18:35,333
I still feel apprehension.
1339
01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:39,418
We're getting close.
1340
01:18:42,767 --> 01:18:46,233
For Travis, this is
still an emotional journey.
1341
01:19:02,567 --> 01:19:04,266
This was really a turning point
1342
01:19:04,367 --> 01:19:05,867
in my life what happened here.
1343
01:19:07,433 --> 01:19:09,418
It's amazing to think
how much time has gone by.
1344
01:19:11,266 --> 01:19:13,367
Little did I know, uh,
1345
01:19:14,533 --> 01:19:16,467
my life would
never be the same.
1346
01:19:17,867 --> 01:19:19,934
Four decades later,
1347
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,000
Travis reflects
on what it all means.
1348
01:19:23,066 --> 01:19:26,467
Well, I had a choice
after this incident happened.
1349
01:19:26,567 --> 01:19:29,333
Could I just shut up about
it and hope people
1350
01:19:29,333 --> 01:19:31,567
will forget about it
and it'll go away
1351
01:19:31,634 --> 01:19:34,166
or get out there
and defend myself
1352
01:19:34,266 --> 01:19:36,634
and, uh,
set the record straight?
1353
01:19:41,834 --> 01:19:45,266
Aliens exist, we're not alone
in the universe.
1354
01:19:46,467 --> 01:19:51,066
I think people need to realize
that there is a reality here.
1355
01:19:52,934 --> 01:19:55,000
And no one knows
this better
1356
01:19:55,066 --> 01:19:59,100
than the six men who
witnessed Travis' alien encounter.
1357
01:20:00,266 --> 01:20:04,967
Every one of those
crewmen has stood by the story
1358
01:20:05,033 --> 01:20:07,667
of that happened
throughout their lives
1359
01:20:09,418 --> 01:20:10,934
and some of them are
no longer with us.
1360
01:20:12,166 --> 01:20:14,467
They've had the courage
to stand up
1361
01:20:14,533 --> 01:20:17,133
to the naysayers and they
endured that
1362
01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:19,967
from the beginning, even...
Even before I was returned.
1363
01:20:22,066 --> 01:20:24,767
I lived it and it's
still hard to believe.
1364
01:20:24,834 --> 01:20:27,433
Man, I've been called
a liar so many times.
1365
01:20:29,767 --> 01:20:32,266
I'm just used to it, I guess.
It doesn't really bother me.
1366
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:34,367
If you believe it, you believe it.
You don't, you don't.
1367
01:20:35,667 --> 01:20:38,767
It's always
gonna be there, you know.
1368
01:20:38,867 --> 01:20:39,418
And sometime
if bothers me a lot,
1369
01:20:39,418 --> 01:20:41,266
And sometime
if bothers me a lot,
1370
01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:43,934
you know, but it did happen
and why did it happen?
1371
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,333
Why was it us?
1372
01:20:46,567 --> 01:20:49,266
Everybody was affected
differently, you know.
1373
01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:53,066
Greatly affected my life,
but it's all for the better I think.
1374
01:20:53,133 --> 01:20:54,433
For the better.
1375
01:20:57,467 --> 01:20:58,567
It was real.
1376
01:21:00,066 --> 01:21:01,734
It was real that day.
1377
01:21:04,967 --> 01:21:07,266
What I would say to skeptics is
1378
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,418
walk a mile in my shoes.
1379
01:21:10,166 --> 01:21:12,000
They need to do more research,
1380
01:21:12,066 --> 01:21:13,967
they need to be more
open minded.
1381
01:21:14,634 --> 01:21:17,066
Oh, got it!
1382
01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:19,634
Woo-hoo!
1383
01:21:19,634 --> 01:21:22,767
Now, recent
government disclosures
1384
01:21:22,867 --> 01:21:25,266
lend further credence
to the experiences
1385
01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:27,967
of Travis and his
fellow crewmembers.
1386
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,767
The last three years, basically,
1387
01:21:31,834 --> 01:21:35,367
we have seen story after story
that establishes,
1388
01:21:35,433 --> 01:21:38,967
uh, that UFOs are more real
than anybody's ever believed.
1389
01:21:40,467 --> 01:21:43,266
Perhaps the most
important modern-day
1390
01:21:43,333 --> 01:21:46,000
revelation from our
government is an official
1391
01:21:46,066 --> 01:21:48,266
acknowledgement that
the phenomenon is real.
1392
01:21:48,967 --> 01:21:50,533
Something is going on.
1393
01:21:52,233 --> 01:21:55,467
We definitely cannot
rule out extraterrestrial.
1394
01:21:55,533 --> 01:21:59,467
If the world had felt
the same back in 1975,
1395
01:21:59,567 --> 01:22:01,367
I don't think that
the case would've received
1396
01:22:01,433 --> 01:22:04,066
so much negative
criticism and ridicule.
1397
01:22:05,634 --> 01:22:07,567
I think that the reason
1398
01:22:09,418 --> 01:22:11,367
the Pentagon disclosures
film and statements
1399
01:22:11,467 --> 01:22:14,133
that they have evidence,
it's basically they're saying,
1400
01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:17,233
"It's a matter of fact." It's very..
1401
01:22:17,233 --> 01:22:18,667
It's very good progress.
1402
01:22:18,734 --> 01:22:21,367
So it's a relief
that they're going to come
1403
01:22:21,467 --> 01:22:23,767
so far as to say,
"Yes, there's something here
1404
01:22:23,867 --> 01:22:25,567
and we don't know what it is."
1405
01:22:27,033 --> 01:22:29,367
I think that one of the things
you're going to see
1406
01:22:29,467 --> 01:22:31,767
happening in the next
few years are we're gonna have
1407
01:22:31,834 --> 01:22:34,567
congressional hearings
on this very topic
1408
01:22:35,333 --> 01:22:37,367
and I would submit
to the senators
1409
01:22:37,433 --> 01:22:38,867
and the congress people
1410
01:22:39,418 --> 01:22:41,467
who are thinking of putting
those hearings together
1411
01:22:41,567 --> 01:22:44,133
that they might want to consider
calling up Travis Walton
1412
01:22:44,133 --> 01:22:46,834
and bringing him up
to Washington and asking him
1413
01:22:46,834 --> 01:22:49,767
to tell his story directly.
I think they'd like to hear it.
1414
01:22:54,767 --> 01:22:59,066
This is the place where my life
was changed forever.
1415
01:22:59,133 --> 01:23:02,166
Eventually I'm hoping
something good will come of it.
1416
01:23:03,567 --> 01:23:05,166
At the minimum,
1417
01:23:05,266 --> 01:23:09,418
uh, make humans realize
that we're not so special,
1418
01:23:09,967 --> 01:23:12,767
uh, that, uh, the world there is.
1419
01:23:15,834 --> 01:23:18,967
The fact that these aliens
exist after all this time
1420
01:23:19,033 --> 01:23:22,467
with vastly superior technology
1421
01:23:23,066 --> 01:23:25,467
has to mean that they, uh,
1422
01:23:25,567 --> 01:23:29,100
ceased to be war like
in attacking each other.
1423
01:23:29,166 --> 01:23:32,033
So it's, uh, sort of
a message to humanity
1424
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:35,266
to figure out to be a whole
lot less savage
1425
01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:38,867
and a whole lot smarter
about where we're going with all this.
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