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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,400 It's one of the greatest alien abduction stories of all time. 2 00:00:08,367 --> 00:00:12,700 In 1975, six men in northeast Arizona 3 00:00:12,767 --> 00:00:16,767 witnessed their crew mate kidnapped by a UFO. 4 00:00:16,867 --> 00:00:18,600 I hollered out, "They got him!" 5 00:00:20,467 --> 00:00:22,000 But was Travis Walton 6 00:00:22,066 --> 00:00:25,200 really taken by aliens or did his crewmates 7 00:00:25,266 --> 00:00:27,800 have something to do with his disappearance? 8 00:00:27,867 --> 00:00:29,367 The sheriff kept telling me, 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,867 "If you just tell us where the body is? 10 00:00:30,967 --> 00:00:32,634 We can all go home." 11 00:00:32,634 --> 00:00:34,967 The six men who reportedly eye witnessed the incident 12 00:00:34,967 --> 00:00:37,367 have taken lie detector tests. 13 00:00:37,367 --> 00:00:40,467 The story became an international sensation, 14 00:00:40,567 --> 00:00:44,400 inspiring books, and a Hollywood movie, 15 00:00:44,467 --> 00:00:47,567 and it ripped apart a small town. 16 00:00:47,567 --> 00:00:51,000 This doesn't sound like a true tale to me. 17 00:00:51,066 --> 00:00:52,867 What happened to Travis Walton 18 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:54,467 that fateful night? 19 00:00:54,467 --> 00:00:57,066 What torture was he subjected to? 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,266 Forty five years later, shocking new evidence 21 00:01:02,266 --> 00:01:04,367 reveals the true story behind... 22 00:01:04,867 --> 00:01:06,100 Fire in the Sky, 23 00:01:07,367 --> 00:01:09,967 the abduction of Travis Walton. 24 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:06,300 A.P.R.O. 25 00:02:06,367 --> 00:02:08,867 The Aerial Phenomena Research Organization 26 00:02:08,867 --> 00:02:10,300 in Tucson, Arizona. 27 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,266 They were seeing several hundred reports of UFO 28 00:02:14,367 --> 00:02:17,166 sightings each year from all over the world. 29 00:02:17,266 --> 00:02:19,600 But one of the most bizarre reports came recently 30 00:02:19,667 --> 00:02:21,467 from A.P.R.O.'s own backyard, 31 00:02:21,467 --> 00:02:23,700 the town of Snowflake, Arizona. 32 00:02:28,867 --> 00:02:30,000 The story begins on an ordinary day. 33 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,467 A seven men logging crew packs up after hours 34 00:02:37,467 --> 00:02:40,867 of hard work in the Apache- Sitgreaves National Forest. 35 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,967 It was a typical day of working hard out there. 36 00:02:47,166 --> 00:02:49,767 We worked up until the sun started going down. 37 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,200 And by the time we got all loaded up 38 00:02:54,266 --> 00:02:57,367 and ready to go, it was getting fairly dark. 39 00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:03,867 The tight-knit crew begins 40 00:03:03,867 --> 00:03:08,100 the rough 30-mile drive back home to Snowflake, Arizona. 41 00:03:08,166 --> 00:03:10,667 Foreman Mike Rogers is behind the wheel 42 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:14,066 when the men noticed something strange. 43 00:03:16,066 --> 00:03:17,867 We hadn't gone very far. 44 00:03:17,967 --> 00:03:21,367 I mean, maybe a quarter of a mile. 45 00:03:22,767 --> 00:03:25,567 The guys started seeing a light through the trees. 46 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,000 There was a bright light 47 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:33,600 over to the right of us and we couldn't really tell what it was. 48 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:36,867 I first thought it was the Moon. 49 00:03:36,967 --> 00:03:39,100 I turned, I looked over the other way 50 00:03:39,166 --> 00:03:40,700 and there's the Moon, you know? 51 00:03:42,367 --> 00:03:44,367 Could it be a hunter's campfire? 52 00:03:44,367 --> 00:03:46,500 An airplane crash? 53 00:03:46,567 --> 00:03:50,367 The answer is even more terrifying. 54 00:03:50,467 --> 00:03:52,266 Right when you come around that bend 55 00:03:52,367 --> 00:03:53,867 it just hits you all at once. 56 00:04:00,767 --> 00:04:02,600 It was just like a saucer 57 00:04:02,667 --> 00:04:04,767 just sat in the air, not moving. 58 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:09,467 It was, uh, softly glowing. 59 00:04:09,467 --> 00:04:11,166 Like from the inside out. 60 00:04:12,867 --> 00:04:15,100 Twenty-two-year-old Travis Walton 61 00:04:15,166 --> 00:04:18,400 in the passenger seat startles everyone. 62 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,500 Before Mike even stopped, 63 00:04:21,567 --> 00:04:24,567 Travis had, had the door open and was getting out. 64 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Travis took off in a fairly brisk walk up towards it. 65 00:04:33,867 --> 00:04:37,100 And he stood there for just a few seconds 66 00:04:37,166 --> 00:04:39,000 and this thing started making noise. 67 00:04:41,266 --> 00:04:43,867 It was shocking, very shocking. 68 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,700 I heard this noise, I go, "Oh, crap." 69 00:04:49,166 --> 00:04:52,100 I felt this rumble, you know, in the steering wheel. 70 00:04:52,166 --> 00:04:54,467 That spooked me. 71 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,600 We were yelling, "Come on, get back in here!" 72 00:04:58,667 --> 00:04:59,667 Travis, come back! 73 00:04:59,767 --> 00:05:00,000 We were all terrified. 74 00:05:02,767 --> 00:05:05,066 And all of the sudden, this bluish light came out. 75 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,567 The woods lit up like a bluish green. 76 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:13,500 It zapped him in the chest. 77 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,767 He flies back about 15 feet at least. 78 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,667 His body bounces off the ground. 79 00:05:25,900 --> 00:05:28,767 Mike turns on the pickup and takes off. 80 00:05:30,266 --> 00:05:32,200 There was blind panic. 81 00:05:32,266 --> 00:05:33,367 White knuckles. 82 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:37,166 We went down the road about a quarter of a mile... 83 00:05:38,266 --> 00:05:39,767 ...then I hit the brakes. 84 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:46,166 The guys in the truck were saying, 85 00:05:46,166 --> 00:05:47,667 "What are you stopping for? 86 00:05:47,667 --> 00:05:50,300 That thing could be chasing us," you know? 87 00:05:50,367 --> 00:05:53,000 And I said, "We left Travis back there. 88 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:55,066 So, we have to go back." 89 00:05:55,066 --> 00:05:59,400 That's when I became hysterical, basically. 90 00:05:59,467 --> 00:06:00,000 Go back, right now. 91 00:06:01,767 --> 00:06:02,867 You don't know what it was. 92 00:06:02,867 --> 00:06:04,100 We have to go back and get him. 93 00:06:04,166 --> 00:06:07,767 While we were outside of the truck we saw a flash. 94 00:06:10,367 --> 00:06:13,100 Now, I assumed it was that craft. 95 00:06:13,166 --> 00:06:15,800 Just in a straight, just... Like that. 96 00:06:17,667 --> 00:06:19,800 Everybody got their courage back 97 00:06:19,867 --> 00:06:21,266 till we saw it take off. 98 00:06:22,166 --> 00:06:24,567 Couldn't leave Travis out there. 99 00:06:24,567 --> 00:06:26,367 You just don't leave a guy behind. 100 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,266 We went back... 101 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:32,567 ...very slow. 102 00:06:39,867 --> 00:06:41,100 Buddy! 103 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,900 Travis! 104 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 We walked around the perimeter 105 00:06:46,266 --> 00:06:48,400 looking in the bushes and that, you know, 106 00:06:48,467 --> 00:06:50,000 to see if he had crawled off. 107 00:06:50,767 --> 00:06:52,767 -Travis. -Travis! 108 00:06:54,567 --> 00:06:56,166 Travis! 109 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:57,567 Travis! 110 00:06:57,567 --> 00:06:59,567 But he was nowhere to be found. 111 00:06:59,567 --> 00:07:00,000 That's when Mike, he kinda fell down 112 00:07:02,667 --> 00:07:04,600 to the ground and kinda lost it. 113 00:07:08,066 --> 00:07:09,166 I broke down. 114 00:07:10,567 --> 00:07:13,166 I broke down because Travis wasn't there. 115 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:15,867 He was my best friend. 116 00:07:27,166 --> 00:07:29,700 Guilt-ridden, terrified 117 00:07:29,767 --> 00:07:30,000 and in way over their heads, 118 00:07:32,367 --> 00:07:35,967 the crew members decide to call law enforcement for help. 119 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:40,700 We all got back in the truck, and we left. 120 00:07:43,767 --> 00:07:48,600 And that was a very, very emotional trip. 121 00:07:51,767 --> 00:07:53,100 All right, there's telephone. 122 00:07:53,166 --> 00:07:55,400 There's this phone at the sub station 123 00:07:55,467 --> 00:07:57,166 as we get coming off the dirt road. 124 00:07:59,667 --> 00:08:00,000 We called the sheriff's apartment. 125 00:08:03,767 --> 00:08:05,767 The first officer arriving on scene 126 00:08:05,767 --> 00:08:08,800 is Navajo County sheriff's deputy, Chuck Ellison. 127 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,667 They were obviously very upset. 128 00:08:16,066 --> 00:08:18,800 And I tried to get just as close to each one of them 129 00:08:18,867 --> 00:08:20,967 as I could to see if I could detect odors 130 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:23,800 of marihuana, alcohol... 131 00:08:23,867 --> 00:08:25,400 I didn't detect any. 132 00:08:27,266 --> 00:08:28,967 Sensing something amiss, 133 00:08:28,967 --> 00:08:30,000 Ellison talks to each member of the crew. 134 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,100 Starting with foreman Mike Rogers. 135 00:08:38,266 --> 00:08:40,367 Mike, he was the boss, you know? 136 00:08:40,467 --> 00:08:42,467 He called the shots and how things go, 137 00:08:42,467 --> 00:08:44,266 where you're gonna go, you know, and all that. 138 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,900 The missing man, Travis Walton, 139 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,867 dated Mike's sister, Dana. 140 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Also in the crew is Mike's brother-in-law John Goulette. 141 00:08:56,667 --> 00:08:59,400 John's the kind of person who gets along with everybody. 142 00:09:01,266 --> 00:09:04,100 I've known Travis for a long, long time. 143 00:09:04,166 --> 00:09:05,600 I met him when he was a teenager 144 00:09:05,667 --> 00:09:08,467 when I came up there to stay with Katie and Mike. 145 00:09:10,166 --> 00:09:12,767 Goulette brought two other friends onto the crew. 146 00:09:13,767 --> 00:09:18,200 Dwayne Smith and Allen Dalis. 147 00:09:18,266 --> 00:09:21,166 Allen Dalis was a... Mike said, "the black sheep." 148 00:09:21,166 --> 00:09:22,667 here on the crew. 149 00:09:23,567 --> 00:09:25,667 He was a character. He was... 150 00:09:25,667 --> 00:09:27,200 You know, he had his run ins 151 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:29,000 with the law and that, you know. 152 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,367 Rounding up the crew are 26-year-old 153 00:09:33,467 --> 00:09:37,100 Kenny Peterson and 17-year-old's Steve Pierce. 154 00:09:38,066 --> 00:09:40,367 I was the gofer, you know? 155 00:09:40,367 --> 00:09:41,967 'Cause I was the youngest. 156 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,667 When the frightened crew members tell Deputy Ellison 157 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:49,667 that Travis was attacked by a UFO, 158 00:09:50,367 --> 00:09:52,100 Ellison calls in his superior, 159 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:55,700 Sheriff Marlin Gillespie. 160 00:09:55,767 --> 00:09:58,400 Marlin Gillespie was my father. 161 00:09:58,467 --> 00:10:00,000 He was the sheriff of Navajo County for many years. 162 00:10:02,166 --> 00:10:04,500 At the time that the incident occurred 163 00:10:04,567 --> 00:10:06,467 they called my father out 164 00:10:06,567 --> 00:10:10,467 to involve him and other deputies. 165 00:10:10,567 --> 00:10:12,467 Sheriff Gillespie showed up 166 00:10:12,567 --> 00:10:14,100 and we told him what happened, 167 00:10:14,166 --> 00:10:17,400 and he was looking around for beer bottles and stuff, 168 00:10:17,467 --> 00:10:20,266 'cause he didn't really believe our story. 169 00:10:20,266 --> 00:10:23,166 He thought that these men saw something. 170 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:27,000 That part he believed because he said they were scared, 171 00:10:27,066 --> 00:10:29,200 but he wasn't sure were they scared 172 00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:30,000 because of what they had done 173 00:10:31,066 --> 00:10:34,166 or were they really scared because what they believed 174 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:36,567 that Travis had been taken by a UFO? 175 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:41,900 He looked at Mike, he says, 176 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 "You gotta go back and I want two volunteers 177 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:46,266 to come back with me. 178 00:10:46,266 --> 00:10:48,767 The other three, I want you to go back to Snowflake 179 00:10:48,767 --> 00:10:50,000 and don't leave town." 180 00:10:53,667 --> 00:10:55,200 Mike Rogers, Allen Dalis 181 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:57,567 and Kenny Peterson lead the sheriff 182 00:10:57,567 --> 00:10:59,367 and his deputies to the site. 183 00:11:00,767 --> 00:11:03,266 There's no trace of Travis. 184 00:11:03,266 --> 00:11:07,000 Or the alleged craft. 185 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:10,567 I could not see a skid mark of any kind, like, 186 00:11:10,667 --> 00:11:14,266 as if some kind of aircraft that touched on the ground. 187 00:11:14,367 --> 00:11:16,567 I could not see a footprint of any kind. 188 00:11:17,767 --> 00:11:19,367 I couldn't detect any odors. 189 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:23,066 I didn't see any burns, 190 00:11:23,066 --> 00:11:26,000 and I said, "Well, we may as well leave because he's not here." 191 00:11:28,567 --> 00:11:30,000 Without industrial lightning equipment 192 00:11:30,467 --> 00:11:32,567 or a huge force of officers, 193 00:11:32,667 --> 00:11:35,066 the small-town sheriff's hands are tied. 194 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:40,967 He'll have to wait until morning to launch a search party 195 00:11:40,967 --> 00:11:43,800 to find out if Travis Walton is injured, 196 00:11:44,467 --> 00:11:48,767 dead or is it possible 197 00:11:48,767 --> 00:11:51,266 that he was abducted by aliens? 198 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:03,767 Twenty-two-year-old Travis Walton is missing. 199 00:12:05,667 --> 00:12:09,066 Travis' older brother, Don, recalls the night 200 00:12:09,066 --> 00:12:12,967 that changed his family's life forever. 201 00:12:12,967 --> 00:12:17,100 Mother came over to my home about three o'clock in the morning. 202 00:12:17,166 --> 00:12:20,000 Mama's pretty hysterical when she got there. 203 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:22,667 She kept repeating, "They got him. They got him." 204 00:12:22,767 --> 00:12:24,266 I didn't know what to think. 205 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,300 Across town, the other crewmen's families 206 00:12:28,367 --> 00:12:32,367 anxiously await the arrival of their loved ones. 207 00:12:32,467 --> 00:12:35,467 I was at Mike's house because 208 00:12:35,567 --> 00:12:39,367 Mike's then wife, Katie, and I were putting on a quilt. 209 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,800 We were gonna make this big ole quilt for a wedding, 210 00:12:44,867 --> 00:12:47,667 and Mike didn't come home when he normally does. 211 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:51,567 Once it's dark you can't saw trees out in the woods. 212 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:54,447 We were starting to get kind of worried about him. 213 00:12:56,266 --> 00:12:59,300 Katie's younger brother worked with Mike, too. 214 00:12:59,867 --> 00:13:01,767 John Goulette, 215 00:13:01,767 --> 00:13:04,667 so she was worried about him as well. 216 00:13:04,667 --> 00:13:07,200 But when Mike finally does make it home, 217 00:13:07,266 --> 00:13:11,667 his family's worries only intensify. 218 00:13:11,667 --> 00:13:14,100 They started telling us what was going on... 219 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:24,447 That's when we found out that it was Travis 220 00:13:25,266 --> 00:13:28,367 that was missing, and my brother Mike 221 00:13:28,367 --> 00:13:32,967 looked like he had aged 20-30 years just in that day. 222 00:13:34,266 --> 00:13:38,100 Mike felt this big, huge weight on his shoulders. 223 00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:41,400 He felt responsible for Travis. 224 00:13:41,467 --> 00:13:43,900 Mike and Angie's little sister, Dana, 225 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,967 who dated Travis at the time, can't believe what she hears. 226 00:13:48,967 --> 00:13:52,867 Was her boyfriend attacked by an alien ship? 227 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,867 They just told me what happened. 228 00:13:56,967 --> 00:13:59,000 I think they said "UFO." 229 00:13:59,066 --> 00:14:03,500 And I was, you know, kind of shocked about what happened. 230 00:14:03,567 --> 00:14:04,900 Like, it was hard to believe. 231 00:14:05,867 --> 00:14:07,100 But it was really scary, 232 00:14:07,166 --> 00:14:10,700 I was really worried about Travis, 233 00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:12,867 but I could tell those guys were telling the truth. 234 00:14:12,967 --> 00:14:14,700 They seemed very traumatized. 235 00:14:15,467 --> 00:14:17,500 It scares the hell out of you 236 00:14:17,567 --> 00:14:21,367 because your reality just becomes so different. 237 00:14:35,967 --> 00:14:38,166 As rays of early morning sunlight 238 00:14:38,166 --> 00:14:40,567 stretch across Navajo County, Arizona, 239 00:14:41,567 --> 00:14:43,767 the sleepy town of Snowflake 240 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:47,867 awakens to an unearthly, unsolved mystery. 241 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:51,567 When we got up the next morning, you know, 242 00:14:51,567 --> 00:14:54,447 my mother had let us know that my father was investigating 243 00:14:54,567 --> 00:14:56,200 something that had happened 244 00:14:56,266 --> 00:14:58,467 out in the woods and that somebody had been abducted 245 00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:00,100 by a UFO. 246 00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:04,266 News of Travis Walton's UFO abduction 247 00:15:04,266 --> 00:15:07,166 spreads like wildfire. 248 00:15:07,166 --> 00:15:09,166 I've always thought there could be UFO, 249 00:15:09,266 --> 00:15:11,100 but, uh... That story's kinda farfetched. 250 00:15:11,166 --> 00:15:12,166 We've seen 'em. 251 00:15:12,266 --> 00:15:13,667 -You've seen 'em? -Yeah. 252 00:15:13,767 --> 00:15:17,867 This doesn't sound like a true tale to me. 253 00:15:17,867 --> 00:15:21,367 My father was the deputy sheriff in Navajo County. 254 00:15:21,467 --> 00:15:23,467 I remember my father coming home 255 00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:24,447 and talking about it and he was rolling his eyes, 256 00:15:27,166 --> 00:15:29,667 like... Hmm. 257 00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:32,300 There was a lot of skepticism. 258 00:15:32,367 --> 00:15:34,800 Most people were having a hard time believing it. 259 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:37,967 It's a very religious community. 260 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,100 The elders of the church and that, 261 00:15:41,166 --> 00:15:43,066 they were telling people, "Hey, you know, 262 00:15:43,066 --> 00:15:44,700 this ain't true. You all don't believe it." 263 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,467 My wife didn't know whether to believe it 264 00:15:48,467 --> 00:15:50,000 or not, you know? 265 00:15:50,066 --> 00:15:51,567 She was skeptical, you know? 266 00:15:55,166 --> 00:15:57,266 As the town of Snowflake debates 267 00:15:57,266 --> 00:15:59,667 the existence of aliens and UFOs, 268 00:16:00,266 --> 00:16:01,467 the rest of the world 269 00:16:01,567 --> 00:16:04,867 focusses their attention on human space flight. 270 00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:07,567 Moving out. Clear the tower. 271 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,300 Roger. Tower clear. 272 00:16:11,367 --> 00:16:15,467 Just seven years earlier, Apollo 11 first landed humans 273 00:16:15,567 --> 00:16:19,467 on the Moon, and just a few months earlier, 274 00:16:19,467 --> 00:16:22,567 in July of 1975, 275 00:16:22,667 --> 00:16:24,447 the decade's long space race between the United States 276 00:16:25,867 --> 00:16:27,266 and the Soviet Union 277 00:16:27,367 --> 00:16:29,867 officially came to a peaceful end. 278 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:36,266 Proving that space exploration could overcome 279 00:16:36,266 --> 00:16:40,600 such earth-bound conflicts as politics and nationalism. 280 00:16:47,266 --> 00:16:50,266 Yet as mankind casts its hopeful eyes 281 00:16:50,266 --> 00:16:54,447 to the sky, other mysteries from deepest space emerge. 282 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:02,567 Reports of UFO sightings and alien abductions 283 00:17:02,567 --> 00:17:05,266 were on the rise in the mid-1970s. 284 00:17:08,867 --> 00:17:13,567 1975 in particular was a, uh, an active year for UFOs. 285 00:17:13,667 --> 00:17:15,900 Across the country there were sightings, 286 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,567 and we call this a flap. 287 00:17:17,567 --> 00:17:19,700 It's a period of activity researchers, 288 00:17:19,767 --> 00:17:22,567 uh, look for patterns as to why this particular location, 289 00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:24,100 why this time? 290 00:17:25,367 --> 00:17:28,300 The state of Arizona routinely ranks 291 00:17:28,367 --> 00:17:30,400 among the top areas in the world 292 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:32,767 for UFO-related events. 293 00:17:34,066 --> 00:17:36,500 If you go back to the summer of '47 294 00:17:36,567 --> 00:17:39,467 there's newspaper articles of a craft 295 00:17:39,467 --> 00:17:41,667 similar to what was described in Roswell 296 00:17:41,667 --> 00:17:44,367 that happened only weeks or months before. 297 00:17:45,700 --> 00:17:48,867 Then you have 1952, the Marana Air Force Base. 298 00:17:48,867 --> 00:17:51,200 A silvery disk was reported hovering 299 00:17:51,266 --> 00:17:54,000 over the air force base and when they scrambled jets 300 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:54,447 to try and get to it, it disappeared. 301 00:18:01,467 --> 00:18:03,467 The American Southwest is home 302 00:18:03,467 --> 00:18:05,800 to all kinds of military installations. 303 00:18:05,867 --> 00:18:08,400 It's where we created the first nuclear bombs. 304 00:18:11,567 --> 00:18:13,667 It's where Roswell happened. 305 00:18:13,667 --> 00:18:15,900 Why does all this happen with UFOs? 306 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Because it's so important to the United States government 307 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:22,500 and to our military projection of power, 308 00:18:22,567 --> 00:18:24,447 and so it would make sense that if another intelligence 309 00:18:26,367 --> 00:18:29,667 was here to find out what makes humans tick, 310 00:18:29,667 --> 00:18:31,100 they might start there. 311 00:18:32,266 --> 00:18:35,567 Is there something in the Southwest territory 312 00:18:35,567 --> 00:18:39,500 that attracts extra-planetary explorers? 313 00:18:42,567 --> 00:18:45,000 Authorities in Snowflake don't believe claims 314 00:18:45,066 --> 00:18:48,867 that Travis Walton was abducted by aliens. 315 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,266 But with the loggers whereabout unaccounted for, 316 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:54,447 law enforcements launches a massive manhunt. 317 00:18:57,767 --> 00:18:59,567 The sheriff's department went up 318 00:18:59,567 --> 00:19:01,667 on the rim to the Turkey Springs area 319 00:19:01,767 --> 00:19:04,700 where this incident supposedly occurred. 320 00:19:04,767 --> 00:19:07,867 They had the sheriff's posse out looking for him. 321 00:19:09,767 --> 00:19:12,300 They had helicopters and they had dogs. 322 00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:15,266 There's people just walking. 323 00:19:16,667 --> 00:19:18,667 They had all kinds of stuff looking for him 324 00:19:18,767 --> 00:19:20,767 and they just looked and looked and looked. 325 00:19:21,867 --> 00:19:23,867 Travis' older brother Don, 326 00:19:23,867 --> 00:19:24,447 a forest service employee, joins the search party. 327 00:19:28,567 --> 00:19:29,967 It was a madhouse out there. 328 00:19:32,867 --> 00:19:35,266 There's probably 150-200 people 329 00:19:35,367 --> 00:19:37,567 out searching for Travis. 330 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,100 The longer they look, 331 00:19:40,166 --> 00:19:43,367 the more law enforcement and Travis' family 332 00:19:43,467 --> 00:19:46,100 become suspicious of foul play. 333 00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:51,667 They were thinking the crew got 334 00:19:51,667 --> 00:19:54,447 in some kind of a skirmish and maybe killed Travis. 335 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,367 Travis' family was all looking at Mike, 336 00:19:59,367 --> 00:20:02,467 like, "Okay, Mike, where's our Travis?" 337 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:06,467 I thought maybe a bad accident 338 00:20:06,467 --> 00:20:10,900 had happened where the chainsaw may hit his body. 339 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200 I did the first day, I went out there with them. 340 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,767 They kinda split us up and had us go in different routes. 341 00:20:17,767 --> 00:20:20,367 And each group had a deputy sheriff. 342 00:20:20,467 --> 00:20:22,600 He kept telling me, you know, "If you just tell us 343 00:20:22,667 --> 00:20:24,447 where the body is, we can all go home." 344 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:28,800 Although they reported Travis 345 00:20:28,867 --> 00:20:31,500 was captured by a UFO, 346 00:20:31,567 --> 00:20:35,967 the crew now realize they're suspected of murder. 347 00:20:37,467 --> 00:20:39,867 s we started going through these brush piles, 348 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,800 I wanna know if there's anything 349 00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:45,567 in those brush piles that might resemble a body. 350 00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:51,367 Couldn't figure out what would happen to him, where he went, you know? 351 00:20:51,467 --> 00:20:53,300 We were all confused, we couldn't figure out 352 00:20:53,367 --> 00:20:54,447 why we couldn't find a body. 353 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,367 Travis Walton may have disappeared 354 00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:00,667 without a trace, 355 00:21:01,266 --> 00:21:02,567 but there is evidence 356 00:21:02,567 --> 00:21:07,166 that something very strange happened in those woods. 357 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,266 Region headquarters in Albuquerque, 358 00:21:11,367 --> 00:21:13,467 they sent a man over at the request 359 00:21:13,467 --> 00:21:16,767 of the sheriff's department to bring a Geiger counter. 360 00:21:18,867 --> 00:21:23,467 Today I am the only living person 361 00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:27,066 who saw the readings on that Geiger counter. 362 00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:32,400 Don claims he witnessed the Geiger counter needles spike. 363 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,900 Indicating a high level of radiation 364 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,700 at the alleged UFO site. 365 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:44,767 It was off scale. 366 00:21:45,867 --> 00:21:47,600 You could see the difference in the... 367 00:21:47,667 --> 00:21:49,266 What the needle was showing. 368 00:21:50,667 --> 00:21:53,500 It would drop off after, at 100 yards. 369 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:58,200 That scared me. That kind of radiation. 370 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,467 Could high levels of localize radiation 371 00:22:06,467 --> 00:22:09,467 be evidence of an alien craft? 372 00:22:24,567 --> 00:22:26,567 Wood cutters said they were riding 373 00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:29,266 in this truck along an isolated mountain road 374 00:22:29,367 --> 00:22:32,100 when suddenly a spaceship hovered over them. 375 00:22:32,166 --> 00:22:34,567 This is what the spaceship looked like according 376 00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:36,900 to one of the men who drew this picture. 377 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,266 Another of the men, 22-year-old Travis Walton 378 00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:41,867 reportedly got out of the truck 379 00:22:41,867 --> 00:22:42,664 and approached the spaceship. 380 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:48,567 As law enforcement and volunteers scour 381 00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:52,467 the Sitgreaves National Forest for a second day, 382 00:22:52,467 --> 00:22:56,266 the search for Travis Walton and the sensational claim 383 00:22:56,266 --> 00:23:00,100 of his UFO abduction makes headlines around the world. 384 00:23:02,567 --> 00:23:06,200 Media outlets descend upon Walton's hometown 385 00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:07,700 of Snowflake, Arizona. 386 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,567 Our town had never really had any reporters at all, 387 00:23:11,567 --> 00:23:12,664 and then all of the sudden there's like people 388 00:23:13,567 --> 00:23:16,100 from all over the world, all different countries. 389 00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:18,166 It was just the strangest thing 390 00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,767 that the word got out that fast. 391 00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:24,100 I think there was even some reporters from Japan. 392 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,266 The media hounds everyone involved in the case. 393 00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:32,166 Including Sheriff Marlin Gillespie. 394 00:23:32,166 --> 00:23:34,900 I just remember the phones were ringing off the hook. 395 00:23:37,767 --> 00:23:40,600 No one had pagers, no one had cellphones 396 00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:42,664 and my father couldn't take the phone 397 00:23:42,767 --> 00:23:44,600 off the hook because he depended on that. 398 00:23:44,667 --> 00:23:46,367 They needed to get ahold of them for work. 399 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,166 But reporters aren't the only curious visitors 400 00:23:51,166 --> 00:23:53,000 to suddenly appear in Snowflake. 401 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,567 Mysterious out of towners cramp up 402 00:23:56,567 --> 00:23:58,166 amongst the search parties. 403 00:24:00,867 --> 00:24:04,200 You always tell, back then, a government car 404 00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:06,767 because it was just a ugly color. 405 00:24:06,767 --> 00:24:10,100 And the rims always matched the color of the car. 406 00:24:11,266 --> 00:24:12,664 There'd be two guys sitting in there. 407 00:24:13,166 --> 00:24:15,600 Suits and sunglasses just watching you. 408 00:24:15,667 --> 00:24:19,100 Most people know the Men in Black from pop culture 409 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:21,667 but there have been historically 410 00:24:21,667 --> 00:24:23,166 verified incidents 411 00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:25,367 where unidentified government agents 412 00:24:25,367 --> 00:24:27,400 follow up on cases like this. 413 00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:30,467 I take off to go somewhere 414 00:24:30,567 --> 00:24:33,266 and by the time I got to where I was gonna go 415 00:24:33,367 --> 00:24:35,166 they were already sitting there waiting. 416 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:37,266 You know? I don't know how they knew where I was going. 417 00:24:38,467 --> 00:24:40,667 People have suspected over the years 418 00:24:40,767 --> 00:24:42,664 that among that crowd of people that included journalists 419 00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:48,400 and UFO observers were people from the United States government 420 00:24:48,467 --> 00:24:50,600 who wanted to know more about this case. 421 00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:52,367 And why would they wanna know more about it? 422 00:24:52,367 --> 00:24:55,667 Because they knew UFOs were real whether they admitted it 423 00:24:55,667 --> 00:24:58,667 to the public or not, but, uh, they thought 424 00:24:58,767 --> 00:25:01,000 that the Travis Walton case was a pretty good case. 425 00:25:20,367 --> 00:25:24,200 Travis has now been missing for three days. 426 00:25:24,266 --> 00:25:29,100 His loved ones face an agonizing lack of answers. 427 00:25:29,166 --> 00:25:31,900 I think everybody got more and more worried. 428 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Everybody was more tense and scared 429 00:25:35,667 --> 00:25:37,200 the longer the time went by. 430 00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:41,767 With every passing hour the crew 431 00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:42,664 feels the crushing pressure of suspicion. 432 00:25:45,567 --> 00:25:46,767 I wasn't going out. 433 00:25:46,767 --> 00:25:48,367 I was hiding at a girlfriend's house 434 00:25:48,367 --> 00:25:51,166 and staying away from everybody. 435 00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:54,367 I'd say four out of five people thought, you know, 436 00:25:54,367 --> 00:25:57,266 it was either a hoax or, or was a murder or something. 437 00:25:58,300 --> 00:25:59,800 Even without a body, 438 00:25:59,867 --> 00:26:02,467 the sheriff's department investigates the case 439 00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:03,900 as a homicide. 440 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,667 It doesn't take long to zero in on a suspect. 441 00:26:10,066 --> 00:26:12,367 Crew member Allen Dalis. 442 00:26:13,367 --> 00:26:15,300 The cops, they found out 443 00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:18,700 about a fight that Travis and Allen Dalis was in. 444 00:26:21,367 --> 00:26:24,500 He'd fight anybody, and he could get pretty ornery. 445 00:26:24,567 --> 00:26:26,100 He didn't like Mike and Travis. 446 00:26:28,967 --> 00:26:31,367 I was pretty confident in my head at that time 447 00:26:31,467 --> 00:26:34,000 that Allen had something to do with this. 448 00:26:34,066 --> 00:26:36,166 I accused him of killing Travis. 449 00:26:39,567 --> 00:26:41,266 Authorities turn up the heat 450 00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:42,664 on the remaining crew members. 451 00:26:44,266 --> 00:26:46,266 I remember my dad saying 452 00:26:46,367 --> 00:26:50,266 that Marlin Gillespie was questioning the boys down 453 00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:52,100 saying, "Just admit, you killed him. 454 00:26:52,166 --> 00:26:53,600 Just admit it." 455 00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,300 Flake pulls up and he says, 456 00:26:55,367 --> 00:26:57,000 "We know you didn't do the killing, 457 00:26:57,066 --> 00:27:00,066 but we know for sure that Allen Dalis killed Travis 458 00:27:00,066 --> 00:27:02,567 or Jon Goulette killed him." 459 00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:06,400 Once I figured out what they were doing and what they thought, 460 00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:08,800 you know, I pretty much stayed away from the cops, you know. 461 00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:12,166 The sheriff's department 462 00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:14,100 asks Mike Rogers and the other crewmen 463 00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:16,900 to submit to a polygraph examination. 464 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,967 Rogers jumps at the chance to clear their names. 465 00:27:22,967 --> 00:27:25,400 We told him, you know, "We'll take polygraph test. 466 00:27:25,467 --> 00:27:28,900 We'll... We'll take sodium pentothal, hypnosis, 467 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,166 anything you can give us because this thing really happened 468 00:27:32,166 --> 00:27:35,400 and we don't like this thing about you accusing us of murder." 469 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,367 The men are summoned 470 00:27:44,467 --> 00:27:46,800 to take polygraph tests at the Navajo County 471 00:27:46,867 --> 00:27:48,767 courthouse in nearby Holbrook. 472 00:27:49,367 --> 00:27:51,200 It was scary, really scary 473 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:54,900 to go into that courthouse. 474 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,367 The courthouse and the jail was the same building. 475 00:27:58,867 --> 00:28:03,000 I was more scared the day of the polygraph test 476 00:28:03,066 --> 00:28:05,767 than I was when I saw Travis getting zapped. 477 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,166 I didn't know who was gonna give us this test. 478 00:28:10,266 --> 00:28:12,467 I was thinking, "You know, they could be setting us up. 479 00:28:12,467 --> 00:28:12,664 No matter what, we're probably gonna fail this 480 00:28:12,664 --> 00:28:14,700 No matter what, we're probably gonna fail this 481 00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:16,367 and we'll probably gonna go to jail." 482 00:28:16,367 --> 00:28:19,100 When we went in there we figured we weren't coming out. 483 00:28:22,667 --> 00:28:26,166 This polygraph test went on all day long. 484 00:28:26,166 --> 00:28:27,767 Up until the evening. 485 00:28:29,867 --> 00:28:32,600 Because the test take about two hours a piece. 486 00:28:33,867 --> 00:28:36,767 As part of the test, the polygrapher asks 487 00:28:36,867 --> 00:28:40,300 each crewmen the same series of questions three times. 488 00:28:41,567 --> 00:28:42,664 The first three questions regard 489 00:28:43,567 --> 00:28:46,000 the alleged murder of Travis Walton. 490 00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:48,300 The subject of the final question 491 00:28:48,367 --> 00:28:50,266 is the UFO. 492 00:28:50,367 --> 00:28:52,467 Once the test got underway 493 00:28:52,467 --> 00:28:55,100 he started changing his mind really quickly. 494 00:28:56,767 --> 00:28:59,000 By the time he had tested all of us, 495 00:28:59,066 --> 00:29:01,066 he seemed to be a believer. 496 00:29:02,266 --> 00:29:03,867 Five of the six men passed 497 00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:05,967 the lie detector test outright. 498 00:29:05,967 --> 00:29:12,066 Only Allen Dalis' test comes back as inconclusive. 499 00:29:12,664 --> 00:29:16,367 Allen actually passed the first two run throughs of this test. 500 00:29:16,367 --> 00:29:19,266 It was inconclusive because he pulled himself lose 501 00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,800 from a scene in the last run through. 502 00:29:23,767 --> 00:29:25,967 The results of the polygraph 503 00:29:25,967 --> 00:29:29,166 stunned everyone in the town of Snowflake. 504 00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:32,667 Perhaps none more so than the polygrapher himself. 505 00:29:33,767 --> 00:29:35,867 I talked to him after the test, 506 00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:41,066 and he indicated to me that... That apparently he was wrong. 507 00:29:41,066 --> 00:29:42,664 Unofficially he said that he believed 508 00:29:44,367 --> 00:29:47,100 that we had told the truth. 509 00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:50,700 For five excruciating days, 510 00:29:50,767 --> 00:29:53,867 Travis Walton has been missing. 511 00:29:53,967 --> 00:29:55,867 The skeptical sheriff's department 512 00:29:55,967 --> 00:29:58,266 is back to square one. 513 00:29:58,266 --> 00:30:01,100 If Travis Walton hasn't been murdered 514 00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:04,367 and no one can find his body in the woods, 515 00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:07,467 where could he be? 516 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,266 Late that night, the phone rings at Travis' sister's home. 517 00:30:21,767 --> 00:30:24,867 His brother-in-law, Grant, answers. 518 00:30:26,667 --> 00:30:28,467 I had come home from work. 519 00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:30,300 Phone rang 520 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,467 and it was a voice on the other side saying, 521 00:30:33,967 --> 00:30:35,300 "This is Travis. 522 00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:37,800 Come and get me." 523 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,767 Travis Walton has been missing for five days. 524 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,100 When Travis' brother-in-law, Grant, answers a late-night 525 00:31:01,166 --> 00:31:04,100 phone call, he assumes it's a prank. 526 00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:05,700 And I said, "Yeah, right." 527 00:31:05,767 --> 00:31:07,567 I get ready to hang up he said, 528 00:31:07,567 --> 00:31:09,200 "No, no, no, no, please don't hang up." 529 00:31:09,266 --> 00:31:10,638 And, so then I started listening 530 00:31:11,467 --> 00:31:13,867 and then the conversation ended. 531 00:31:13,967 --> 00:31:17,567 I got my wife out of bed, we went to her mother's place. 532 00:31:17,567 --> 00:31:20,667 His brother Duane was there visiting. 533 00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:23,266 We got in the truck, drove to Heber 534 00:31:23,266 --> 00:31:24,967 where he described where he was. 535 00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:30,667 I must've passed out 'cause it seemed like almost 536 00:31:30,767 --> 00:31:34,567 immediately they were, um... Headlights of the truck 537 00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:36,667 were shining into the phone booth 538 00:31:37,867 --> 00:31:40,266 and my brother came over there and lifted me up. 539 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,567 And I was just hysterical. 540 00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:49,500 He sort of lifted me into the truck 541 00:31:49,567 --> 00:31:53,066 and I was just breaking down, just disintegrating. 542 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,367 In this rare archival interview 543 00:31:58,467 --> 00:32:02,000 Travis recalls the events leading up to the phone call. 544 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,000 Wandering the road for what feels 545 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,667 like hours, Travis recognizes 546 00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:38,667 the lights of Heber, Arizona, in the distance. 547 00:32:41,967 --> 00:32:44,300 I ran down into the town 548 00:32:45,567 --> 00:32:46,967 and called my family. 549 00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:48,967 "Come and get me." 550 00:32:57,367 --> 00:32:59,467 On the way back to Snowflake, 551 00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:02,700 Travis struggles to piece together his experience. 552 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,467 One of the biggest shocks I had to deal with 553 00:33:07,567 --> 00:33:09,500 when I was returned was finding out 554 00:33:09,567 --> 00:33:10,638 that this brief period of time 555 00:33:11,967 --> 00:33:14,700 had somehow taken over five days. 556 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:19,166 My brother, he asked me to feel my face 557 00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:21,967 and I had a, had a... You know, weeks growth. 558 00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:25,300 I was... It really took my mind just to reel at that 559 00:33:25,367 --> 00:33:28,000 because as far as I knew it was the same night. 560 00:33:29,867 --> 00:33:32,667 I was trying to describe what I'd experienced, 561 00:33:32,667 --> 00:33:34,767 but I was just making it worst. 562 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,367 And he finally said, "Don't try to talk right now." 563 00:33:40,638 --> 00:33:42,867 He talked about how scared the family had been. 564 00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:47,767 For Travis' family, the past week 565 00:33:47,767 --> 00:33:50,500 has been an emotional roller coaster. 566 00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:52,000 Everybody was relieved, 567 00:33:52,066 --> 00:33:54,867 but they were still kind of in a shock mode. 568 00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:58,767 It didn't affect me as much as it did my wife, 569 00:33:58,767 --> 00:34:03,467 and she still doesn't wanna be bothered with it. 570 00:34:03,567 --> 00:34:05,767 When Travis came back 571 00:34:05,867 --> 00:34:08,367 we were all so relieved. 572 00:34:10,638 --> 00:34:13,400 At the same time the story was so hard 573 00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:17,600 to fit in to your realm of reality, you know? 574 00:34:21,266 --> 00:34:26,800 Even decades later, the trauma of those five days 575 00:34:26,867 --> 00:34:31,200 still weighs heavy on Travis and his now wife Dana. 576 00:34:33,266 --> 00:34:35,266 I was really, really worried, 577 00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:38,166 and scared that you... What happened to you, 578 00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:40,638 I didn't know if you'd ever be returned. 579 00:34:41,967 --> 00:34:44,200 Specially the more days went by, 580 00:34:44,266 --> 00:34:46,266 gets more and more scary. 581 00:34:47,266 --> 00:34:48,367 Well... 582 00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:50,600 Did you ever think for a minute 583 00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:53,500 that maybe the guys or Mike or something 584 00:34:53,567 --> 00:34:56,467 -were covering up a killing, a murder? -No. 585 00:34:56,567 --> 00:34:58,300 No, I never thought that. 586 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:01,500 Yep. 587 00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:05,266 I even went out to the window, and I looked up on the sky 588 00:35:05,367 --> 00:35:08,400 and I said, "Will you please bring Travis back?" 589 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,400 -I'm sorry. -That must've hurt you. 590 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,867 With Travis in such a fragile state, 591 00:35:36,867 --> 00:35:39,767 his brother Duane is determined to protect him 592 00:35:39,767 --> 00:35:40,638 from any intense scrutiny by the media 593 00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:42,100 from any intense scrutiny by the media 594 00:35:42,166 --> 00:35:43,700 or law enforcement. 595 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,266 Desperate for assistance, he reaches out 596 00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:51,066 to the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization 597 00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,367 or A.P.R.O. 598 00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:55,400 A Tucson based UFO investigative group. 599 00:35:57,767 --> 00:36:01,400 Jim and Coral Lorenzen really assembled A.P.R.O. 600 00:36:01,467 --> 00:36:03,867 with the key focus of having a credible 601 00:36:03,967 --> 00:36:07,500 and scientific, unbiased perspective. 602 00:36:07,567 --> 00:36:09,967 That's why they brought in medical doctors, 603 00:36:10,638 --> 00:36:12,867 they brought in, uh, scientists that were respected 604 00:36:12,867 --> 00:36:15,567 in their fields and consulted with them 605 00:36:15,667 --> 00:36:16,800 whenever they did a case. 606 00:36:18,066 --> 00:36:20,467 My brother Duane, he had contacted 607 00:36:20,567 --> 00:36:22,100 Jim Lorenzen, the head 608 00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:25,467 of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization 609 00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:28,000 who had a couple of medical doctors 610 00:36:28,066 --> 00:36:29,967 in their Phoenix membership 611 00:36:29,967 --> 00:36:32,367 who agreed to do an examination. 612 00:36:34,467 --> 00:36:35,967 In the dead of night, 613 00:36:35,967 --> 00:36:39,467 Duane Walton secretly sneaks Travis out of Snowflake. 614 00:36:40,667 --> 00:36:44,100 A.P.R.O. arranged for Travis to go to a hotel in Phoenix. 615 00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:46,967 He checked in under an assumed name 616 00:36:46,967 --> 00:36:49,100 and then they sent over two A.P.R.O. 617 00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:50,767 affiliated medical doctors. 618 00:36:52,266 --> 00:36:53,767 They didn't want any leaks 619 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,800 of what was happening with Travis 620 00:36:56,867 --> 00:36:59,166 with his, uh, medical condition, 621 00:36:59,266 --> 00:37:01,200 and, and all the testing. 622 00:37:03,266 --> 00:37:05,567 Before medical tests are performed, 623 00:37:05,567 --> 00:37:08,166 Travis tell the physicians what he remembered 624 00:37:08,266 --> 00:37:10,638 from the night of November 5th, 1975, 625 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,100 starting with the moment he exited the truck. 626 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:23,500 It just was kind of a... A sort of an impulse. 627 00:37:23,567 --> 00:37:25,000 Seeing this object there... 628 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:28,867 For some reason I just kind of assumed 629 00:37:28,967 --> 00:37:31,800 that it was gonna take off before I got very far. 630 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,200 We could hear a real low rumbling sort of a sound. 631 00:37:40,638 --> 00:37:43,066 Pounding, you know, like a heartbeat sort of a thing. 632 00:37:44,867 --> 00:37:47,900 And then some real high frequency sorts of sounds. 633 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,967 Very hard to describe these sounds. 634 00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:56,266 The closer I got, it suddenly got louder, 635 00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,767 and it started to move. 636 00:38:01,567 --> 00:38:05,367 I was startled and out of fear I just jumped for cover. 637 00:38:10,638 --> 00:38:13,767 Then I was figuring out, "Boy, I've really got myself 638 00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:15,100 in a bad situation here." 639 00:38:16,567 --> 00:38:19,767 I stood up with the idea of running back to the truck, 640 00:38:19,767 --> 00:38:22,000 but as soon as I raised up, 641 00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:25,066 that's when I felt this stunning force. 642 00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,667 The next thing Travis remembers 643 00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:40,638 is waking up on the side of the road five days later. 644 00:38:44,467 --> 00:38:47,266 To make sense of the missing time in between, 645 00:38:47,367 --> 00:38:49,867 Travis agrees to undergo a controversial 646 00:38:49,867 --> 00:38:52,700 technique called regressive hypnosis. 647 00:38:52,767 --> 00:38:55,667 Regressive hypnosis has been used, uh, 648 00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,166 popularly since the Betty and Barney Hill 649 00:38:58,266 --> 00:38:59,967 abduction in 1961. 650 00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,100 Tapes of Betty and Barney 651 00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:04,800 while abducted are still chilling even today. 652 00:39:10,867 --> 00:39:12,767 Oh. Oh! 653 00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:22,000 An hypnosis session is scheduled with A.P.R.O.'s 654 00:39:22,066 --> 00:39:24,600 director of research, Dr. James Harder. 655 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,100 In the meantime, Travis' doctors perform 656 00:39:29,166 --> 00:39:30,367 a battery of tests. 657 00:39:35,066 --> 00:39:37,867 Blood and urine samples were taken 658 00:39:37,967 --> 00:39:40,638 that were put through the county medical examiners 659 00:39:41,467 --> 00:39:45,000 drug screen that's extremely good at detecting 660 00:39:45,066 --> 00:39:48,467 traces of drugs of which there were none. 661 00:39:49,967 --> 00:39:53,266 Despite A.P.R.O.'s and the family's best efforts, 662 00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:57,667 Travis' reappearance does not remain secret for long. 663 00:39:57,667 --> 00:40:01,500 The operator who patched Travis through to call 664 00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:05,166 his sister's house listened in on the call. 665 00:40:05,266 --> 00:40:08,166 Remember, this is 1975, where they actually did have 666 00:40:08,266 --> 00:40:10,100 operators who patched people through. 667 00:40:11,266 --> 00:40:13,867 She recognized the name as he tried to make this, 668 00:40:13,867 --> 00:40:16,600 uh, collect call from Travis Walton, 669 00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:18,100 that this was big news. 670 00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:20,400 So she takes that information 671 00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:23,066 and leaks it to the sheriff's office. 672 00:40:23,066 --> 00:40:25,467 His family was fully aware that there had been 673 00:40:25,567 --> 00:40:28,000 an ensuing search for Travis, 674 00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:31,367 and yet they chose not to let the law enforcement community, 675 00:40:31,467 --> 00:40:34,066 um, know that he had been found. 676 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,967 Travis' family feels he is 677 00:40:36,967 --> 00:40:39,500 too emotionally unstable to face questioning 678 00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:40,638 from the sheriff's department. 679 00:40:41,066 --> 00:40:43,900 For the first few days after his return, 680 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,100 Travis' brother Duane acts as the family's spokesperson. 681 00:40:48,166 --> 00:40:50,567 Obviously, Duane, you know your own brother 682 00:40:50,567 --> 00:40:51,800 probably better than anybody else. 683 00:40:51,867 --> 00:40:53,400 Do you believe the story? 684 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,066 I've never seen him play a practical joke in his adult life. 685 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,767 The veracious media runs with the story. 686 00:41:01,867 --> 00:41:04,800 Before long, it's international news. 687 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,700 Well, now the story that has been hitting 688 00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:09,767 the headlines all over the United States 689 00:41:09,767 --> 00:41:10,638 is the one we told you about last week, 690 00:41:11,467 --> 00:41:13,500 of the man who disappeared after seeing 691 00:41:13,567 --> 00:41:16,000 what his friends thought was a flying saucer. 692 00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:18,166 After a five days search by police, 693 00:41:18,166 --> 00:41:21,467 Travis Walton has turned up unharmed and he says 694 00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:24,567 that he was taken aboard a spaceship but the police, 695 00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:26,900 of course, no way of checking his story. 696 00:41:28,567 --> 00:41:30,166 As law enforcement 697 00:41:30,166 --> 00:41:34,200 and journalists scramble hear the story firsthand, 698 00:41:34,266 --> 00:41:38,867 Travis remains sequestered in a Phoenix hotel room 699 00:41:40,638 --> 00:41:44,066 reliving his experience of abject horror. 700 00:42:01,266 --> 00:42:04,033 On November 14th, 1975, 701 00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,266 four days after his return, Travis Walton 702 00:42:07,266 --> 00:42:08,934 meets with Dr. James Harder 703 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,667 at the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization 704 00:42:11,767 --> 00:42:13,266 in a Phoenix hotel room. 705 00:42:14,667 --> 00:42:16,567 Surrounded by his loved ones, 706 00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:20,166 Dana and his brother Duane, Travis prepares to go undergo 707 00:42:20,233 --> 00:42:23,967 a technique called regressive hypnosis 708 00:42:24,033 --> 00:42:28,100 to help him face his most petrifying memories. 709 00:42:55,734 --> 00:42:58,867 Physically, Travis is sitting on the hotel room sofa... 710 00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:05,667 ...but mentally, Dr. Harder takes him back to the moment 711 00:43:05,767 --> 00:43:08,467 he was abducted on board the alien ship 712 00:43:13,066 --> 00:43:16,670 and the next terrifying five days of missing time. 713 00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:22,233 Visualize just what's in front of you there. 714 00:43:24,166 --> 00:43:26,667 Tell me what it is that your eyes see. 715 00:43:34,166 --> 00:43:36,166 I was laying on my back. 716 00:43:37,567 --> 00:43:39,266 I came to slowly... 717 00:43:40,667 --> 00:43:42,967 At first I thought I was in a hospital. 718 00:43:44,266 --> 00:43:46,670 I felt like there was something seriously wrong. 719 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,600 There was a light above me. 720 00:43:51,667 --> 00:43:54,667 It wasn't so bright I couldn't look at it, but it sort of, 721 00:43:54,734 --> 00:43:58,467 uh, interfered with seeing other things around me. 722 00:44:00,266 --> 00:44:03,767 But I was looking around to see where I was. 723 00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:09,367 It was a very small space, 724 00:44:09,467 --> 00:44:12,967 but there was something lying on my chest. 725 00:44:14,467 --> 00:44:16,670 There seem to be, you know, some kind of, uh, 726 00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:18,500 light coming from it. 727 00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:24,667 When I looked beyond the edge of that, I saw faces, 728 00:44:24,734 --> 00:44:28,033 but it was so blurry that I kind of assumed 729 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,066 it was like, uh, doctors wearing, uh, surgical masks. 730 00:44:33,066 --> 00:44:35,033 It was only a matter of seconds 731 00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,600 before I realized that these weren't human doctors. 732 00:44:39,834 --> 00:44:41,367 This was an alien face. 733 00:44:46,670 --> 00:44:48,367 They were about five foot tall, no hair, 734 00:44:48,834 --> 00:44:50,600 very white skin, 735 00:44:50,667 --> 00:44:53,867 small features except for large eyes. 736 00:44:55,867 --> 00:44:58,266 The beings Travis encounters, 737 00:44:58,266 --> 00:45:00,400 they're a striking resemblance 738 00:45:00,467 --> 00:45:05,266 to grey aliens reported in other UFO abduction stories. 739 00:45:06,166 --> 00:45:08,834 Greys are the most common description 740 00:45:08,834 --> 00:45:11,467 of some of these others that have been visiting us. 741 00:45:12,734 --> 00:45:14,867 Three and a half to four feet tall, 742 00:45:14,934 --> 00:45:16,467 big black eyes, 743 00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:18,567 larger heads, not much of a nose, 744 00:45:18,667 --> 00:45:20,066 not much of a mouth. 745 00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:23,066 Spindly little things, that's what he saw. 746 00:45:26,967 --> 00:45:30,166 To Travis, this strange appearance 747 00:45:30,233 --> 00:45:34,567 and blank expressions are unnerving. 748 00:45:34,567 --> 00:45:38,567 The feeling of pain, the feeling of suffocation, 749 00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:42,166 at the same time they expressed no emotion 750 00:45:42,266 --> 00:45:43,266 to their face. 751 00:45:43,266 --> 00:45:44,467 It seemed threatening. 752 00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:46,670 I just freaked out at that point. 753 00:45:49,367 --> 00:45:51,600 And jumped off of the table there. 754 00:45:53,266 --> 00:45:56,467 And when I did, this device fell off. 755 00:45:57,767 --> 00:46:01,467 Travis' survival instincts kick in full force. 756 00:46:01,567 --> 00:46:03,266 It was were just fight or flight 757 00:46:04,166 --> 00:46:06,967 and I grabbed, um, rod or tube 758 00:46:07,033 --> 00:46:09,600 and just started swinging to the air. 759 00:46:11,467 --> 00:46:14,367 The only opening in the room was beyond them. 760 00:46:17,667 --> 00:46:19,467 Suddenly and without warning, 761 00:46:19,467 --> 00:46:21,500 the aliens change course. 762 00:46:23,066 --> 00:46:24,367 They left the room. 763 00:46:25,233 --> 00:46:26,467 I was afraid they'd come back, 764 00:46:26,567 --> 00:46:31,233 so I left there, uh, looking for a way out. 765 00:46:38,667 --> 00:46:42,867 The whole craft was lit up in a way that I would consider 766 00:46:42,934 --> 00:46:46,467 to be pretty, pretty dim by, you know, human standards. 767 00:46:48,567 --> 00:46:53,133 I felt like there was an insufficient amount of air. 768 00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:55,667 Like I couldn't get enough air just breathing. 769 00:46:55,767 --> 00:46:57,867 Air was thin but humid. 770 00:46:59,033 --> 00:47:01,367 Struggling to see and desperate for air, 771 00:47:02,367 --> 00:47:04,367 Travis comes across another door. 772 00:47:05,667 --> 00:47:09,000 The room appears to be empty except for a single chair. 773 00:47:10,133 --> 00:47:13,467 As Travis approaches, he notices the light 774 00:47:13,567 --> 00:47:15,367 in the room shift. 775 00:47:17,066 --> 00:47:19,400 There was some kind of a projection 776 00:47:19,467 --> 00:47:21,767 or some kind of a viewing thing 777 00:47:21,834 --> 00:47:24,266 in this room where you could see a map of stars. 778 00:47:27,166 --> 00:47:29,734 The points of lights that came through it 779 00:47:29,734 --> 00:47:34,767 were not real visible until I got near the chair. 780 00:47:34,867 --> 00:47:37,567 Away from the chair the walls didn't seem 781 00:47:37,567 --> 00:47:39,867 to have those points of lights so much. 782 00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,767 Could it be some kind of control room? 783 00:47:44,767 --> 00:47:46,670 Travis looks for any means of escape. 784 00:47:47,734 --> 00:47:50,767 On the arm of the chair was a screen 785 00:47:50,834 --> 00:47:55,133 and some colored spots, uh, I took to be buttons. 786 00:47:56,266 --> 00:47:58,033 I was just thinking these buttons 787 00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,834 might open one of these doorway looking things. 788 00:48:01,567 --> 00:48:04,967 Foolishly assuming that a door 789 00:48:05,033 --> 00:48:07,467 would just be opened to the air, 790 00:48:07,567 --> 00:48:09,367 and I could drop to the ground, you know? 791 00:48:09,467 --> 00:48:11,233 Fifteen-20 feet. 792 00:48:11,233 --> 00:48:14,066 I could handle that just to get out of there. 793 00:48:15,266 --> 00:48:16,670 The buttons have no effect. 794 00:48:17,834 --> 00:48:20,667 Travis has no choice but to look for another way out. 795 00:48:21,867 --> 00:48:25,767 Just then he notices, he's not alone. 796 00:48:28,166 --> 00:48:31,367 The form looks oddly familiar. 797 00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:35,133 Could it be human? 798 00:48:39,066 --> 00:48:41,266 In a Phoenix hotel room, 799 00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:44,934 Travis Walton's loved ones sit in stunned silence 800 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,533 as he recounts the traumatic nightmare 801 00:48:47,533 --> 00:48:50,767 of being trapped aboard a UFO. 802 00:48:54,533 --> 00:48:55,934 I didn't actually hear the story 803 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,433 until he was put under hypnosis, 804 00:48:58,433 --> 00:49:00,233 and I was in the room with him when... 805 00:49:00,233 --> 00:49:02,867 So when he told the story it was really... 806 00:49:02,934 --> 00:49:06,934 Shocking, it was scary to me, what he had to go through. 807 00:49:10,734 --> 00:49:13,266 After trying in vain to open a doorway 808 00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:14,667 or escape hatch, 809 00:49:14,767 --> 00:49:17,867 Travis has no choice but to return to the corridor 810 00:49:17,934 --> 00:49:20,767 and search for another means of escape, 811 00:49:20,834 --> 00:49:25,567 only this time, there's something or someone 812 00:49:25,634 --> 00:49:27,667 blocking his way. 813 00:49:27,767 --> 00:49:31,100 There was a what I took to be a human being. 814 00:49:32,634 --> 00:49:36,166 I immediately just assume this was air force, NASA, 815 00:49:37,047 --> 00:49:39,100 somebody, you know, there to intervene 816 00:49:39,166 --> 00:49:42,166 and, uh, take me away from these creatures. 817 00:49:45,667 --> 00:49:48,367 In a rare, archival interview, 818 00:49:48,433 --> 00:49:51,667 Travis describes his encounter with the being. 819 00:49:52,767 --> 00:49:55,834 This was a... A human-looking person. 820 00:49:56,867 --> 00:49:59,967 They'd pass in a crowd as an individual. 821 00:50:02,033 --> 00:50:05,467 He was bigger than me, taller, and more muscular. 822 00:50:05,533 --> 00:50:07,047 Very large individual. 823 00:50:07,047 --> 00:50:07,433 Very large individual. 824 00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:12,467 I went up and, uh, tried to talk to this guy 825 00:50:13,266 --> 00:50:15,667 and, uh, he didn't answer me. 826 00:50:17,133 --> 00:50:19,166 When I started yelling questions, 827 00:50:19,233 --> 00:50:21,066 trying to tell him, "What are these things? 828 00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:22,634 Where am I?" You know, 829 00:50:22,634 --> 00:50:23,767 "Get me out of here." 830 00:50:23,834 --> 00:50:26,066 All those kind of things, he didn't really seem to, 831 00:50:26,133 --> 00:50:28,100 uh, be responding to anything I was saying. 832 00:50:29,867 --> 00:50:32,333 Instead, the suited stranger 833 00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,100 takes Travis by the arm 834 00:50:34,166 --> 00:50:37,047 and escorts him further down the corridor. 835 00:50:37,867 --> 00:50:39,967 I went down the hallway with him, 836 00:50:40,033 --> 00:50:43,934 very dimly lit, but lit from above. 837 00:50:45,166 --> 00:50:47,133 When we came to a door, 838 00:50:48,266 --> 00:50:50,767 I did not see this human-looking individual 839 00:50:50,867 --> 00:50:53,367 do anything to make the door open, but it did. 840 00:50:54,467 --> 00:50:57,333 Travis and his enigmatic escort 841 00:50:57,333 --> 00:51:01,567 entered what appears to be some kind of an air lock. 842 00:51:01,634 --> 00:51:05,667 We went into a little booth-like section of the hallway. 843 00:51:09,266 --> 00:51:11,333 Then, Travis is overcome 844 00:51:11,333 --> 00:51:13,767 by a sudden shift in the environment. 845 00:51:15,033 --> 00:51:16,867 I could feel that the air 846 00:51:16,934 --> 00:51:18,433 coming in was cooler. 847 00:51:19,233 --> 00:51:21,533 I could breathe better, 848 00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:25,533 and that the outside light was so much brighter by comparison. 849 00:51:29,567 --> 00:51:31,467 Travis describes being ushered 850 00:51:31,567 --> 00:51:34,000 from something like an alien aircraft hanger 851 00:51:34,066 --> 00:51:36,967 in the seldom seen BBC documentary. 852 00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,266 He let me out of this craft, 853 00:51:42,367 --> 00:51:45,433 which appeared to be parked inside of a, 854 00:51:45,433 --> 00:51:48,266 a larger building, or a larger craft. 855 00:51:48,367 --> 00:51:49,667 He just took me right out of there 856 00:51:50,533 --> 00:51:52,333 down a hallway to a room 857 00:51:52,333 --> 00:51:54,767 where there were some other people who looked like him. 858 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,433 These two beings are not wearing helmets, 859 00:52:00,433 --> 00:52:02,166 giving Travis a clear look 860 00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:07,047 at what ufologists refer to as "Nordic aliens." 861 00:52:07,367 --> 00:52:12,266 Tall, human-like figures, Scandinavian in appearance. 862 00:52:13,667 --> 00:52:15,934 In the pantheon of aliens that keep getting 863 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,367 described by people who have had 864 00:52:17,433 --> 00:52:20,834 abduction experiences you have primarily the greys... 865 00:52:24,767 --> 00:52:26,734 ...but you also have something called the Nordic. 866 00:52:26,734 --> 00:52:30,133 The Nordic has come to represent basically 867 00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:33,033 a human-looking alien. 868 00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:37,047 In Travis' case, the Nordic he saw was about six feet two inches tall, 869 00:52:38,567 --> 00:52:42,000 kind of brownish, blondish hair. 870 00:52:42,066 --> 00:52:45,734 Basically, like a Caucasian. Could've been from Sweden. 871 00:52:49,367 --> 00:52:51,867 Travis' attention quickly shifts 872 00:52:51,967 --> 00:52:55,100 to an examination table in the center of the room. 873 00:52:56,233 --> 00:52:58,567 The mysterious being in the space suit 874 00:52:59,266 --> 00:53:00,667 pushes him toward it. 875 00:53:01,734 --> 00:53:03,467 He seemed to be trying to get me 876 00:53:03,533 --> 00:53:05,367 to get on the table 877 00:53:05,433 --> 00:53:07,047 and I was very much resisting that. 878 00:53:07,867 --> 00:53:12,233 I became alarmed that he was not answering my questions. 879 00:53:12,233 --> 00:53:14,233 I was obviously terrified and asking, 880 00:53:14,233 --> 00:53:16,033 "Where are you taking me? What's this all about?" 881 00:53:17,166 --> 00:53:19,667 Travis fights with all his might, 882 00:53:19,734 --> 00:53:22,634 but the Nordics step in and overpower him 883 00:53:22,634 --> 00:53:24,567 with superhuman strength. 884 00:53:26,166 --> 00:53:28,667 Very frightening, I was fighting back 885 00:53:28,734 --> 00:53:30,867 immediately, no longer cooperating. 886 00:53:30,967 --> 00:53:34,066 I thought I was pretty strong in those days, 887 00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:37,047 but they didn't have too much trouble getting me down on the table. 888 00:53:44,433 --> 00:53:46,166 They put this mask over my face, 889 00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:48,233 it's kind of like an oxygen mask. 890 00:53:48,233 --> 00:53:50,000 There was no hose connected to it, 891 00:53:50,066 --> 00:53:51,266 they put it over my face 892 00:53:51,333 --> 00:53:53,834 and that was the last thing I knew, I just blacked out. 893 00:54:02,667 --> 00:54:05,266 Next thing I remember was waking up 894 00:54:07,047 --> 00:54:08,367 outside, cold air 895 00:54:09,767 --> 00:54:11,266 coming into my clothes. 896 00:54:19,667 --> 00:54:21,433 In a Phoenix hotel room, 897 00:54:21,433 --> 00:54:23,467 Travis awakens from a trance, 898 00:54:24,734 --> 00:54:28,467 after recounting his harrowing alien abduction experience. 899 00:54:29,867 --> 00:54:33,433 And to his loved ones, it's clear 900 00:54:33,433 --> 00:54:36,567 Travis will never be the same. 901 00:54:37,047 --> 00:54:38,867 He seemed really different. 902 00:54:38,967 --> 00:54:43,166 He seemed traumatized, he seemed kind of scared. 903 00:54:43,233 --> 00:54:45,166 I felt sorry for him in a way, 904 00:54:45,233 --> 00:54:48,266 like I wanted to help him, but I felt helpless. 905 00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:50,634 Like, I couldn't do anything for him. 906 00:54:50,634 --> 00:54:53,333 But a trauma of alien contact 907 00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,166 was just the beginning. 908 00:54:55,233 --> 00:54:58,734 Travis' story would spark a firestorm of debate 909 00:54:58,734 --> 00:55:00,967 and speculation that ignites 910 00:55:01,033 --> 00:55:05,767 the town of Snowflake and engulfs the entire world. 911 00:55:18,266 --> 00:55:19,867 After a strenuous battery 912 00:55:19,967 --> 00:55:22,667 of medical tests and regressive hypnotherapy 913 00:55:22,734 --> 00:55:28,467 in Phoenix, Travis Walton returns home to Snowflake. 914 00:55:31,533 --> 00:55:34,667 When I saw Travis the next time, he was... 915 00:55:35,266 --> 00:55:37,367 He was skinny. 916 00:55:37,433 --> 00:55:40,573 But the relief and the joy that I saw on our mother 917 00:55:43,166 --> 00:55:44,367 was awesome. 918 00:55:44,433 --> 00:55:46,166 How she just stood there and cried. 919 00:55:47,367 --> 00:55:49,467 And my mother didn't cry about anything. 920 00:55:50,367 --> 00:55:52,567 But over that she certainly did. 921 00:55:52,667 --> 00:55:56,667 We thought we had lost a family member. 922 00:56:00,867 --> 00:56:02,166 The media frenzy, 923 00:56:02,233 --> 00:56:04,100 sparked by the abduction story, 924 00:56:04,166 --> 00:56:07,133 only intensifies as Travis re-emerges. 925 00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,573 Oh, it was a circus. 926 00:56:11,934 --> 00:56:14,934 Mother didn't have a fence around our front yard. 927 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,367 There was probably 100 people out there. 928 00:56:17,433 --> 00:56:19,767 Reporters, all kinds of cameras. 929 00:56:20,867 --> 00:56:22,166 In an effort to keep 930 00:56:22,266 --> 00:56:26,667 the camera hounds at bay, a still traumatized Travis 931 00:56:26,767 --> 00:56:29,367 reluctantly grants his first interviews. 932 00:56:32,667 --> 00:56:34,367 Mr. Walton, how are you? 933 00:56:34,467 --> 00:56:35,767 I'm feeling a lot better. 934 00:56:36,467 --> 00:56:38,166 Where were you? 935 00:56:38,233 --> 00:56:39,667 I don't know. 936 00:56:42,133 --> 00:56:43,867 Did you tried to communicate with them? 937 00:56:43,967 --> 00:56:46,767 Well, I tried to communicate with them 938 00:56:46,867 --> 00:56:48,100 but there was no answer. 939 00:56:48,166 --> 00:56:50,066 They never talked to me or anything. 940 00:56:51,433 --> 00:56:53,000 The unwanted scrutiny 941 00:56:53,066 --> 00:56:55,166 pushes the town's people to the brink. 942 00:56:56,634 --> 00:56:59,767 I thought the media attention was insane. 943 00:56:59,834 --> 00:57:01,667 There was so much interest in it, 944 00:57:01,734 --> 00:57:04,433 and at the time I just remember thinking to myself, 945 00:57:04,433 --> 00:57:07,533 "How can these people really believe this story?" You know. 946 00:57:07,533 --> 00:57:09,000 Kinda skeptical. 947 00:57:09,066 --> 00:57:10,573 You know, seeing is believing, and I don't see nothing. 948 00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:16,166 It was the talk of the town for a long time, 949 00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:19,467 and I think there were people that believed in UFOs 950 00:57:19,533 --> 00:57:23,767 and people that felt that people that believed in UFOs were crazy. 951 00:57:26,867 --> 00:57:28,567 I didn't know if I went to a bar 952 00:57:28,634 --> 00:57:30,533 if somebody's gonna buy me a beer or, 953 00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:32,367 or take a punch at me, you now. 954 00:57:32,433 --> 00:57:34,033 New rumors circulate 955 00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:36,033 that this was all a hoax. 956 00:57:36,967 --> 00:57:39,867 The crew, once suspected of murder, 957 00:57:40,573 --> 00:57:44,166 now find themselves scrutinized alongside Travis' family, 958 00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:47,667 accused of pulling off a massive con. 959 00:57:50,767 --> 00:57:52,467 You couldn't walk through town 960 00:57:52,533 --> 00:57:54,100 without people looking at you. 961 00:57:54,166 --> 00:57:57,000 When he came back they thought it was a big ole joke. 962 00:57:59,667 --> 00:58:02,133 Ten days after that happened I left the area. 963 00:58:02,867 --> 00:58:05,367 Went somewhere where nobody knew me 964 00:58:05,467 --> 00:58:08,266 and didn't know my involvement in that and never told a soul. 965 00:58:09,467 --> 00:58:10,573 It was tough. 966 00:58:11,667 --> 00:58:14,367 I think people looked at us in a way 967 00:58:14,467 --> 00:58:17,667 that we were putting on a show. 968 00:58:20,734 --> 00:58:22,567 Chief among the skeptics 969 00:58:22,667 --> 00:58:26,767 is a man who would become Travis Walton's nemesis. 970 00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:30,767 The king of UFO debunkers, Phillip Klass. 971 00:58:31,767 --> 00:58:33,533 Phillip Klass is probably 972 00:58:33,533 --> 00:58:38,100 the most well-renowned UFO skeptic, uh, 973 00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:40,573 debunker, uh, maybe of all history. 974 00:58:41,767 --> 00:58:44,033 He had devoted a great deal of time 975 00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,667 and as a matter of fact had written books ridiculing 976 00:58:46,767 --> 00:58:50,133 the idea that UFOs should be considered serious at all. 977 00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:54,634 In my opinion, the belief in UFOs 978 00:58:54,634 --> 00:58:57,767 will persist as long as there are people on this earth, 979 00:58:58,467 --> 00:59:00,233 uh, but it is a myth. 980 00:59:01,867 --> 00:59:06,734 Now, Phillip Klass was a very bright man, a journalist. 981 00:59:06,734 --> 00:59:10,433 He just didn't buy the Travis Walton story. 982 00:59:10,573 --> 00:59:12,867 He thought these guys made it up, 983 00:59:12,934 --> 00:59:16,233 and he set out to prove that anyway that he could. 984 00:59:16,233 --> 00:59:18,100 Klass does extensive research 985 00:59:18,166 --> 00:59:21,433 into the Walton story and claims the crew 986 00:59:21,433 --> 00:59:25,000 led by Mike Rogers concocted the UFO scheme 987 00:59:25,066 --> 00:59:27,667 to get out of their logging contract. 988 00:59:27,767 --> 00:59:31,567 We had completed probably over 80% of the contract, 989 00:59:31,634 --> 00:59:34,767 but we were also nearing the completion deadline 990 00:59:34,867 --> 00:59:36,734 on the contract. 991 00:59:36,734 --> 00:59:39,000 And they wanted to get it done before the snow 992 00:59:39,066 --> 00:59:40,573 started coming because this was in November. 993 00:59:41,967 --> 00:59:45,667 So they were trying to hurry up and get it done before it defaulted. 994 00:59:45,767 --> 00:59:47,567 The skeptics made much of this 995 00:59:47,634 --> 00:59:50,266 that this whole things was some kind of a scheme 996 00:59:50,333 --> 00:59:52,567 to get out of, uh, finishing the contract, 997 00:59:52,634 --> 00:59:55,767 but it was not at all to Mike's advantage 998 00:59:55,867 --> 00:59:57,567 for the contract to end. 999 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,000 There was a lot of money being held back. 1000 01:00:02,333 --> 01:00:04,166 And we had completed most of it, 1001 01:00:05,266 --> 01:00:08,166 but once the incident happened there was no way 1002 01:00:08,233 --> 01:00:10,233 that the contract was gonna get finished. 1003 01:00:11,667 --> 01:00:13,266 After that happened, 1004 01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:16,333 Mike couldn't get that crew to go back out there. 1005 01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:18,367 Maybe some of them might've been willing, 1006 01:00:18,467 --> 01:00:20,333 but most of them were not. 1007 01:00:22,767 --> 01:00:25,467 They brought in another crew 1008 01:00:25,533 --> 01:00:27,567 to finish what little we had left. 1009 01:00:27,667 --> 01:00:31,033 Much to Mike's financial disadvantage. 1010 01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:34,467 And if Mike Rogers did think up the UFO story, 1011 01:00:35,567 --> 01:00:37,367 how did he get his six crewmates 1012 01:00:37,433 --> 01:00:39,934 to go along with his farfetched scheme? 1013 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,934 If you really think about it, 1014 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,867 the idea that you would conspire with, uh, six or seven people 1015 01:00:46,967 --> 01:00:49,767 to tell an outrageous story that would cause people 1016 01:00:49,867 --> 01:00:51,767 to think you might be a murderer, 1017 01:00:51,867 --> 01:00:53,367 it just defies logic. 1018 01:00:54,433 --> 01:00:56,467 The level of criticism he and the crew 1019 01:00:56,567 --> 01:01:00,333 faced is yet another shock to Travis and his family. 1020 01:01:01,467 --> 01:01:03,467 I don't like it when people came out 1021 01:01:03,533 --> 01:01:04,867 with accusations against him. 1022 01:01:04,934 --> 01:01:06,233 I knew he was telling the truth, 1023 01:01:06,233 --> 01:01:09,634 I believed him and that was it. 1024 01:01:12,166 --> 01:01:14,567 Well, there was from the get-go 1025 01:01:14,634 --> 01:01:16,767 a great deal of resistance. 1026 01:01:16,834 --> 01:01:20,033 The idea that there could be any life 1027 01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,233 in the universe, other than human life. 1028 01:01:24,734 --> 01:01:28,000 And I think that's a very close minded 1029 01:01:28,066 --> 01:01:29,467 and limited thinking. 1030 01:01:30,867 --> 01:01:36,233 It's maybe partially motivated out of fear or people 1031 01:01:36,233 --> 01:01:39,533 feeling that it was a threat to religious convictions. 1032 01:01:40,573 --> 01:01:45,233 But whatever it was, many of the accusations 1033 01:01:45,233 --> 01:01:49,233 that were levied were easily disproved 1034 01:01:50,467 --> 01:01:54,166 because they were contraries to verifiable facts. 1035 01:01:56,033 --> 01:01:57,934 Yet some allegations would haunt 1036 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,433 Travis Walton for years, leading him to wonder 1037 01:02:02,433 --> 01:02:05,767 if there's a coordinated campaign underway 1038 01:02:05,834 --> 01:02:07,533 to discredit him, 1039 01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:10,573 and if so, who's behind it? 1040 01:02:22,433 --> 01:02:24,634 In Snowflake, Arizona, 1041 01:02:24,634 --> 01:02:28,166 alien abductee Travis Walton and his loved ones 1042 01:02:28,266 --> 01:02:31,767 struggle to get some semblance of normal life. 1043 01:02:33,834 --> 01:02:35,667 About two years later we were married. 1044 01:02:37,867 --> 01:02:40,166 We dated steady for those two years. 1045 01:02:41,567 --> 01:02:43,433 Fell in love and decided to get married. 1046 01:02:44,731 --> 01:02:47,133 We tried to make it like nothing happened, 1047 01:02:47,133 --> 01:02:48,634 so we didn't talk about it a lot. 1048 01:02:51,133 --> 01:02:52,834 But try as they might, 1049 01:02:52,834 --> 01:02:55,266 Travis and Dana find themselves hounded 1050 01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:57,734 by small town gossip. 1051 01:02:57,734 --> 01:02:59,767 You know, I could see people looking at me 1052 01:02:59,867 --> 01:03:02,567 in the store and I could tell they were thinking, you know, 1053 01:03:02,667 --> 01:03:04,133 things about me. 1054 01:03:04,133 --> 01:03:06,333 And they start making up rumors 1055 01:03:06,333 --> 01:03:09,667 saying, "Well, the crew was probably all using drugs. 1056 01:03:09,734 --> 01:03:11,867 They were all hallucinating." 1057 01:03:11,967 --> 01:03:14,233 We're talking in the '70s 1058 01:03:14,233 --> 01:03:14,731 and what really happened 1059 01:03:14,731 --> 01:03:15,567 and what really happened 1060 01:03:15,667 --> 01:03:18,867 if there was drugs involved, alcohol or whatever. 1061 01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:22,367 Travis' medical tests reveal 1062 01:03:22,467 --> 01:03:25,634 no sign of drugs in his system. 1063 01:03:25,634 --> 01:03:29,333 Travis didn't do drugs. Travis hardly even ever drank. 1064 01:03:29,333 --> 01:03:31,467 If he did, I don't even think he did drink. 1065 01:03:32,967 --> 01:03:35,233 That job was pretty dangerous, actually. 1066 01:03:35,233 --> 01:03:38,033 Those chainsaws don't slice you, 1067 01:03:40,433 --> 01:03:42,567 they tear chunks of meat out. 1068 01:03:42,667 --> 01:03:44,731 You can't get high or drink and do that job, you know. 1069 01:03:45,834 --> 01:03:47,367 I don't know anybody who could. 1070 01:03:50,367 --> 01:03:52,066 Despite the naysayers, 1071 01:03:52,133 --> 01:03:54,734 Travis and the crew have their champions. 1072 01:03:55,834 --> 01:03:58,033 Most notably groups like A.P.R.O., 1073 01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:02,166 who gather and examine evidence to support the abduction claims. 1074 01:04:03,033 --> 01:04:04,367 First on their list, 1075 01:04:04,433 --> 01:04:07,166 Travis Walton's physical condition. 1076 01:04:08,266 --> 01:04:10,567 The people who came and got Travis Walton 1077 01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:14,731 found a severely dehydrated guy who didn't look good. 1078 01:04:15,367 --> 01:04:18,767 He was in the same clothes that he was wearing 1079 01:04:18,834 --> 01:04:20,066 when he had disappeared 1080 01:04:20,133 --> 01:04:22,066 and when they weighed him later, 1081 01:04:22,133 --> 01:04:25,367 uh, that next morning, they found out he was at least ten pounds 1082 01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:28,000 lighter than when he had gone up in the mountains. 1083 01:04:30,767 --> 01:04:33,533 Yet Travis' blood test provides the A.P.R.O. 1084 01:04:33,533 --> 01:04:36,367 doctors with some striking information. 1085 01:04:38,033 --> 01:04:40,033 Part of, uh, what they were looking for 1086 01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:43,166 was the presence of what they call ketones, 1087 01:04:43,233 --> 01:04:44,731 which was to indicate whether my body 1088 01:04:46,233 --> 01:04:50,433 had been consuming its own reserves, you know, 1089 01:04:50,433 --> 01:04:53,333 fat, even muscle in order to maintain life. 1090 01:04:54,266 --> 01:04:56,834 He did lose ten to 12 pounds 1091 01:04:56,834 --> 01:04:58,266 in a short period of time. 1092 01:04:58,367 --> 01:05:00,266 He was severely dehydrated 1093 01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:02,667 but yet no ketones were present. 1094 01:05:02,767 --> 01:05:07,100 So, it is possible that these visitors knew enough 1095 01:05:07,166 --> 01:05:08,333 about human biology. 1096 01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:10,767 They tried to nourish him in some way. 1097 01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:13,667 And if he wasn't picked up 1098 01:05:14,731 --> 01:05:16,166 after his crewmates left him in the woods, 1099 01:05:16,266 --> 01:05:20,100 how did Travis survive for those five days? 1100 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,867 To believe he was left out 1101 01:05:23,934 --> 01:05:27,033 in Sitgreaves National Forest, not only overnight, 1102 01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,834 but for five days is outrageous. 1103 01:05:28,834 --> 01:05:31,100 At night it gets very, very cold. 1104 01:05:31,166 --> 01:05:34,166 The guy had a jean jacket and, and a pair of jeans on. 1105 01:05:34,233 --> 01:05:36,634 It would've been a tough, tough things to survive. 1106 01:05:37,767 --> 01:05:40,033 A.P.R.O. researches in Arizona 1107 01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:41,567 also uncover evidence 1108 01:05:41,634 --> 01:05:44,731 of an increasing level of UFO activity 1109 01:05:44,734 --> 01:05:47,867 in the months leading up to the abduction. 1110 01:05:47,967 --> 01:05:50,467 We had an event that takes place in May, 1111 01:05:50,567 --> 01:05:53,133 just outside the hills of Tucson. 1112 01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:56,100 We have a mother with her children who comes across 1113 01:05:56,166 --> 01:06:01,333 a silvery glowing object, but most interestingly, 1114 01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:04,634 she hears a low rumbling sound 1115 01:06:04,634 --> 01:06:07,734 that's very similar to what Travis described 1116 01:06:07,734 --> 01:06:09,834 right before this thing appeared to take off. 1117 01:06:14,731 --> 01:06:17,867 Perhaps the strongest evidence of all 1118 01:06:17,934 --> 01:06:20,166 comes from the sheriff's department. 1119 01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:23,767 To have six witnesses all testifying 1120 01:06:23,867 --> 01:06:28,467 in detail to the same events, and all passing 1121 01:06:28,567 --> 01:06:31,567 lie detector tests from the state police. 1122 01:06:33,066 --> 01:06:35,033 People have gone back and forth over the years 1123 01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:37,000 about what a polygraph actually means, 1124 01:06:37,066 --> 01:06:40,467 but one thing we do know, though, is when somebody passes it 1125 01:06:40,567 --> 01:06:44,333 and it's just them, it gives you a certain amount of legitimacy. 1126 01:06:45,433 --> 01:06:47,066 But when you have six different people 1127 01:06:47,133 --> 01:06:48,734 taking a lie detector test 1128 01:06:49,734 --> 01:06:51,567 and they all tell the same story, 1129 01:06:51,667 --> 01:06:54,934 your chances that the story they're telling is accurate 1130 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,000 is about, uh, a million to one. 1131 01:06:59,467 --> 01:07:02,233 Dr. James Harder, he was saying 1132 01:07:02,233 --> 01:07:05,433 that the evidence to support that this really happened 1133 01:07:05,433 --> 01:07:08,333 would've been sufficient to convict a person 1134 01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:10,867 of murder in an American court of law. 1135 01:07:12,734 --> 01:07:14,731 On February 7th, 1976, 1136 01:07:15,967 --> 01:07:17,967 Travis and his brother Duane 1137 01:07:18,033 --> 01:07:20,533 take their own lie detector tests. 1138 01:07:21,433 --> 01:07:24,367 The results shocked everyone. 1139 01:07:29,266 --> 01:07:31,567 In February of 1976, 1140 01:07:31,667 --> 01:07:34,333 Travis Walton and his brother Duane 1141 01:07:34,333 --> 01:07:36,867 submit to polygraph examinations. 1142 01:07:39,133 --> 01:07:40,533 They both pass. 1143 01:07:42,367 --> 01:07:44,367 Landing further credibility 1144 01:07:44,433 --> 01:07:46,667 to Travis' UFO abduction claims. 1145 01:07:54,266 --> 01:07:56,266 For years after the incident, 1146 01:07:56,409 --> 01:07:58,266 Travis and his six crew members 1147 01:07:58,367 --> 01:08:00,867 never waver from their story. 1148 01:08:00,934 --> 01:08:04,166 Eventually, the tide of public opinion 1149 01:08:04,233 --> 01:08:06,000 turns in their favor. 1150 01:08:08,266 --> 01:08:12,166 In 1975, when the Walton case is big news, 1151 01:08:12,233 --> 01:08:16,033 the government's institutional response to UFOs back then 1152 01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:19,333 was, "It's probably not a real thing, don't sweat it. 1153 01:08:19,333 --> 01:08:20,867 Go on about your lives." 1154 01:08:22,533 --> 01:08:24,166 Now the government says a couple 1155 01:08:24,266 --> 01:08:25,834 of really profound things. 1156 01:08:26,409 --> 01:08:28,967 First of all, they have confirmed that there are 1157 01:08:29,033 --> 01:08:32,266 many objects out there and that they're real 1158 01:08:32,367 --> 01:08:34,767 and that they're unidentified. 1159 01:08:34,867 --> 01:08:36,967 And secondly, they said, "We don't make them." 1160 01:08:38,266 --> 01:08:40,834 So, lots of people believed in them before, 1161 01:08:40,834 --> 01:08:43,166 but now we have a more of a sense 1162 01:08:43,233 --> 01:08:45,867 they are real because our own government is admitting it. 1163 01:08:47,767 --> 01:08:49,567 Oh, got it! 1164 01:08:56,409 --> 01:08:58,066 And the attitude in the Southwestern state, 1165 01:08:58,133 --> 01:09:00,734 known for some of the biggest UFO sightings 1166 01:09:00,734 --> 01:09:03,467 in the world has also changed. 1167 01:09:04,767 --> 01:09:09,667 I've known, uh, Travis Walton for a long time. 1168 01:09:09,767 --> 01:09:12,967 After seeing UFOs in New Mexico, Arizona 1169 01:09:13,033 --> 01:09:16,533 and California, I said, "Well, there must be 1170 01:09:16,533 --> 01:09:18,867 something that, uh... To what he said." 1171 01:09:20,233 --> 01:09:22,066 I do believe that there are UFOs. 1172 01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:26,266 But you see things cruising around up there 1173 01:09:26,409 --> 01:09:27,800 it's like, "What the heck was that? 1174 01:09:27,867 --> 01:09:31,266 No, okay, is that a satellite? No, it's moving a little bit too fast." 1175 01:09:31,367 --> 01:09:33,233 Do you believe there's something out there? 1176 01:09:33,233 --> 01:09:34,367 I think so. 1177 01:09:37,867 --> 01:09:40,266 Our tales completely switched around 1178 01:09:40,333 --> 01:09:42,567 where four out of five people do believe it now. 1179 01:09:42,667 --> 01:09:44,367 Before they didn't. 1180 01:09:44,433 --> 01:09:47,367 You know, it was exactly the opposite. 1181 01:09:47,433 --> 01:09:51,767 I'm sorry that Allen and Dwayne Smith aren't here, 1182 01:09:51,867 --> 01:09:55,767 because for years people just thought we were nuts. 1183 01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:59,166 Now, you've got people who do believe, 1184 01:09:59,233 --> 01:10:03,667 and Allen and Dwayne Smith aren't here to, to see that. 1185 01:10:05,266 --> 01:10:07,367 The shift in public perception 1186 01:10:07,467 --> 01:10:09,367 began in 1978 1187 01:10:11,467 --> 01:10:13,734 when Travis Walton wrote 1188 01:10:13,734 --> 01:10:16,634 and published a book about his ordeal. 1189 01:10:18,367 --> 01:10:21,367 The Walton Experience is the first book written 1190 01:10:21,433 --> 01:10:23,266 by a UFO abductee, 1191 01:10:23,367 --> 01:10:25,834 and it's sort of withstood the test of time. 1192 01:10:26,934 --> 01:10:28,467 My impression of first reading 1193 01:10:28,567 --> 01:10:31,467 Travis' book, it was so well written 1194 01:10:31,533 --> 01:10:35,333 that he presents the arguments before his case 1195 01:10:35,333 --> 01:10:37,266 and against his case 1196 01:10:37,367 --> 01:10:41,634 and takes each individual criticism and debunks it one by one. 1197 01:10:43,467 --> 01:10:45,266 What it allowed readers to do 1198 01:10:45,333 --> 01:10:47,867 for the first time is to get in his head. 1199 01:10:47,934 --> 01:10:52,066 This is an honest man, who' trying to tell us 1200 01:10:52,133 --> 01:10:53,734 what really happened to him. 1201 01:10:56,567 --> 01:10:58,667 Travis' story catches the attention 1202 01:10:58,734 --> 01:11:00,367 of Hollywood 1203 01:11:00,467 --> 01:11:03,166 and on March 12th, 1993, 1204 01:11:03,233 --> 01:11:07,433 Paramount Pictures releases Fire in the Sky. 1205 01:11:09,567 --> 01:11:12,433 A film based on his book. 1206 01:11:12,433 --> 01:11:14,767 Talking about the Travis Walton abduction, 1207 01:11:14,867 --> 01:11:17,834 there was X-amount of people that sort of watched it 1208 01:11:17,834 --> 01:11:20,266 when it happened real time with news coverage, 1209 01:11:20,333 --> 01:11:22,867 there were a few more that read the book, 1210 01:11:22,967 --> 01:11:26,000 but then there were a lot more that watched the movie. 1211 01:11:27,066 --> 01:11:29,166 And the people who watched the movie 1212 01:11:29,266 --> 01:11:31,166 had their minds open 1213 01:11:31,233 --> 01:11:34,233 to the possibility that an abduction could happen 1214 01:11:34,233 --> 01:11:37,100 because the movie starts with "based on a true story." 1215 01:11:39,967 --> 01:11:41,367 After the movie was made, 1216 01:11:41,467 --> 01:11:44,033 people became more and more enlightened I guess. 1217 01:11:44,767 --> 01:11:46,367 More and more people believed. 1218 01:11:46,467 --> 01:11:49,233 And more people came up to me and said that they supported us, 1219 01:11:49,233 --> 01:11:51,133 so... That was... That was great. 1220 01:11:52,233 --> 01:11:53,834 The media forces Travis 1221 01:11:53,834 --> 01:11:56,409 into the spotlight once more to share 1222 01:11:57,133 --> 01:12:00,567 the terrifying true story behind the movie. 1223 01:12:01,467 --> 01:12:04,567 It was glowing, disk-shaped object. 1224 01:12:04,667 --> 01:12:06,834 Uh, it's kinda, like, shaped like two pie pans. 1225 01:12:06,834 --> 01:12:09,867 Placed lip to lip with a dome on top 1226 01:12:09,934 --> 01:12:13,233 and it was glowing, kind of a golden, uh, yellow color. 1227 01:12:15,667 --> 01:12:18,066 Like clockwork, Travis' credibility 1228 01:12:18,133 --> 01:12:19,367 comes under attack. 1229 01:12:20,867 --> 01:12:23,667 All the familiar skeptics re-emerge, 1230 01:12:23,734 --> 01:12:25,634 including Philip Klass. 1231 01:12:26,667 --> 01:12:29,867 But this time, Travis has the last word. 1232 01:12:32,367 --> 01:12:34,567 Are you saying, Phillip, that all seven 1233 01:12:34,667 --> 01:12:36,133 of these people are lying? 1234 01:12:36,133 --> 01:12:38,834 I'm afraid we have to say that on the basis 1235 01:12:38,834 --> 01:12:40,467 of physical evidence. 1236 01:12:40,567 --> 01:12:41,634 Meaning? 1237 01:12:41,667 --> 01:12:43,634 Physical evidence that should've been there 1238 01:12:43,634 --> 01:12:44,767 but was not. 1239 01:12:44,767 --> 01:12:46,567 Why are you laughing, Travis? 1240 01:12:46,634 --> 01:12:49,066 Well, because this is typical of the sort of reasoning pattern 1241 01:12:49,133 --> 01:12:51,767 this man uses in attacking all UFO cases. 1242 01:12:51,867 --> 01:12:54,567 Uh, he's equating the absence of evidence 1243 01:12:54,667 --> 01:12:56,100 to be the evidence of absence. 1244 01:12:58,066 --> 01:13:00,634 The film's release is a moral victory 1245 01:13:00,634 --> 01:13:03,433 for Travis Walton and his crewmates. 1246 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,233 Fire in the Sky. 1247 01:13:06,233 --> 01:13:09,033 It wasn't just a close encounters of the third kind 1248 01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:11,767 type of movie, this is something based on real life. 1249 01:13:11,867 --> 01:13:14,533 This is what happened to a man and six other 1250 01:13:14,533 --> 01:13:15,934 of his crewmembers. 1251 01:13:19,433 --> 01:13:22,133 We can't just easily dismiss abduction cases 1252 01:13:22,133 --> 01:13:24,767 because look at all the evidence in favor of this one. 1253 01:13:26,634 --> 01:13:29,266 In the aftermath of Fire in the Sky, 1254 01:13:29,367 --> 01:13:32,066 a new generation of UFO investigators 1255 01:13:32,133 --> 01:13:34,333 take up Travis' cause. 1256 01:13:34,333 --> 01:13:37,166 Can they find actual physical evidence 1257 01:13:37,233 --> 01:13:39,367 to prove Travis' story 1258 01:13:39,433 --> 01:13:41,567 beyond any doubt? 1259 01:13:45,767 --> 01:13:47,266 In 2014, 1260 01:13:49,266 --> 01:13:50,667 UFO researcher 1261 01:13:50,767 --> 01:13:52,667 and documentarian, Ben Hansen, 1262 01:13:52,734 --> 01:13:54,333 meets Travis Walton 1263 01:13:54,333 --> 01:13:57,533 at the site of his UFO abduction to examine 1264 01:13:57,533 --> 01:14:01,567 any remaining evidence of Travis' alien encounter. 1265 01:14:02,867 --> 01:14:06,734 Years ago Travis, uh, and I were filming, um, 1266 01:14:06,734 --> 01:14:10,767 kind of a survey before we had a conference here. 1267 01:14:10,834 --> 01:14:13,166 So, right here is where we determined 1268 01:14:14,386 --> 01:14:15,934 through the witnesses and especially Travis' recollection 1269 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,734 where this object was hovering. 1270 01:14:18,734 --> 01:14:21,367 This is the first time we're gonna open it up to the public. 1271 01:14:21,467 --> 01:14:23,166 We didn't want the public coming in here, 1272 01:14:23,266 --> 01:14:27,367 knowing the location and start taking stuff or planting things. 1273 01:14:27,467 --> 01:14:30,266 We wanted to know exactly what kind of evidence, 1274 01:14:30,367 --> 01:14:31,567 if anything, was left over. 1275 01:14:32,834 --> 01:14:34,433 Ben and the research team 1276 01:14:34,433 --> 01:14:37,000 take a methodical approach to the date collection. 1277 01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:43,834 We gritted this whole area and we treated it 1278 01:14:44,386 --> 01:14:45,000 like a crime scene. 1279 01:14:46,233 --> 01:14:49,667 While we're going through everything, the topsoil, uh, 1280 01:14:49,734 --> 01:14:52,266 we're looking at rocks to see if they're magnetic, 1281 01:14:52,367 --> 01:14:54,867 we come across some of these tree stumps. 1282 01:14:56,066 --> 01:14:58,967 Now these have broken off shortly after the incident. 1283 01:14:59,033 --> 01:15:01,567 You can actually count back the rings, of course, 1284 01:15:01,634 --> 01:15:04,066 and see this tree would've been here 1975. 1285 01:15:05,133 --> 01:15:06,533 On closer inspection 1286 01:15:06,533 --> 01:15:09,934 of the tree rings, Ben and Travis noticed 1287 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,433 something very strange indeed. 1288 01:15:12,433 --> 01:15:14,386 If you think of a tree ring, 1289 01:15:14,767 --> 01:15:17,967 they're usually very equally sized, 1290 01:15:18,033 --> 01:15:20,567 uh, concentric circles. 1291 01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:22,867 Okay, on all sides. 1292 01:15:25,066 --> 01:15:28,367 But these trees had something unique. 1293 01:15:28,433 --> 01:15:31,467 The rings on the side facing the clearing 1294 01:15:32,166 --> 01:15:33,767 was spaced out further. 1295 01:15:37,567 --> 01:15:39,667 Meaning there was a greater volume of growth 1296 01:15:39,767 --> 01:15:42,367 on that side of the tree alone. 1297 01:15:42,467 --> 01:15:44,386 And we started noticing this as we're going around 1298 01:15:44,634 --> 01:15:47,867 in a circle and came across the discovery 1299 01:15:47,967 --> 01:15:50,033 that they all seemed to be pointing 1300 01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,066 in a direction towards the center. 1301 01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:54,834 The epicenter where the craft was hovering. 1302 01:16:01,433 --> 01:16:03,867 Could radiation from the UFO, 1303 01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:07,133 as evidenced by the Geiger counter readings at the site 1304 01:16:07,133 --> 01:16:11,834 in 1975, have caused these trees to mutate? 1305 01:16:13,033 --> 01:16:14,386 I started researching a bit 1306 01:16:15,533 --> 01:16:16,834 and I found a couple of studies 1307 01:16:16,834 --> 01:16:18,467 that happened after Chernobyl. 1308 01:16:27,567 --> 01:16:30,467 The studies found that these trees grow 1309 01:16:30,533 --> 01:16:33,233 exponentially greater than any other time period. 1310 01:16:34,767 --> 01:16:36,166 So is that what happened here? 1311 01:16:39,166 --> 01:16:41,667 At an independent lab in Ohio, 1312 01:16:41,734 --> 01:16:44,386 the soil samples taken from the site are tested against 1313 01:16:44,734 --> 01:16:46,467 to control group. 1314 01:16:46,533 --> 01:16:49,934 The findings blow everyone away. 1315 01:16:52,233 --> 01:16:55,533 There was a higher concentration of iron 1316 01:16:55,533 --> 01:17:00,233 and other ferrous materials as compared to the controlled 1317 01:17:00,233 --> 01:17:02,467 samples which were much further away. 1318 01:17:02,567 --> 01:17:03,834 Now what does that mean? 1319 01:17:03,834 --> 01:17:07,934 Other, uh, notable UFO cases have indicated sometimes 1320 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,000 a trace evidence of ferrous materials 1321 01:17:12,066 --> 01:17:14,386 as if something, um, creating a large magnetic field 1322 01:17:16,634 --> 01:17:19,967 was pulling these particles up from the lower layers. 1323 01:17:24,066 --> 01:17:26,233 Based on these findings, 1324 01:17:26,233 --> 01:17:29,567 Ben Hansen and many other open-minded researchers 1325 01:17:29,634 --> 01:17:31,767 draw the same conclusion. 1326 01:17:34,033 --> 01:17:36,533 The Travis Walton abduction case 1327 01:17:36,533 --> 01:17:39,634 offers perhaps the best evidence to date 1328 01:17:39,634 --> 01:17:43,066 of alien visitation to planet Earth. 1329 01:17:45,033 --> 01:17:48,467 I can say that I fully believe what he experienced 1330 01:17:48,567 --> 01:17:51,734 is how he and the crew experiences 1331 01:17:51,734 --> 01:17:53,066 very strange event. 1332 01:17:55,266 --> 01:17:57,433 But as Walton's story continues to be 1333 01:17:57,433 --> 01:18:01,066 more accepted as truth, frightening questions remain. 1334 01:18:03,166 --> 01:18:07,467 Who are these alien creatures and what do they want? 1335 01:18:18,567 --> 01:18:21,533 Travis Walton makes one final trip 1336 01:18:21,533 --> 01:18:25,433 from his home in Snowflake to the site of his alien abduction. 1337 01:18:27,066 --> 01:18:30,867 It's, It's just, um, kind of a PTSD kind of a thing. 1338 01:18:32,467 --> 01:18:35,333 I still feel apprehension. 1339 01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:39,418 We're getting close. 1340 01:18:42,767 --> 01:18:46,233 For Travis, this is still an emotional journey. 1341 01:19:02,567 --> 01:19:04,266 This was really a turning point 1342 01:19:04,367 --> 01:19:05,867 in my life what happened here. 1343 01:19:07,433 --> 01:19:09,418 It's amazing to think how much time has gone by. 1344 01:19:11,266 --> 01:19:13,367 Little did I know, uh, 1345 01:19:14,533 --> 01:19:16,467 my life would never be the same. 1346 01:19:17,867 --> 01:19:19,934 Four decades later, 1347 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,000 Travis reflects on what it all means. 1348 01:19:23,066 --> 01:19:26,467 Well, I had a choice after this incident happened. 1349 01:19:26,567 --> 01:19:29,333 Could I just shut up about it and hope people 1350 01:19:29,333 --> 01:19:31,567 will forget about it and it'll go away 1351 01:19:31,634 --> 01:19:34,166 or get out there and defend myself 1352 01:19:34,266 --> 01:19:36,634 and, uh, set the record straight? 1353 01:19:41,834 --> 01:19:45,266 Aliens exist, we're not alone in the universe. 1354 01:19:46,467 --> 01:19:51,066 I think people need to realize that there is a reality here. 1355 01:19:52,934 --> 01:19:55,000 And no one knows this better 1356 01:19:55,066 --> 01:19:59,100 than the six men who witnessed Travis' alien encounter. 1357 01:20:00,266 --> 01:20:04,967 Every one of those crewmen has stood by the story 1358 01:20:05,033 --> 01:20:07,667 of that happened throughout their lives 1359 01:20:09,418 --> 01:20:10,934 and some of them are no longer with us. 1360 01:20:12,166 --> 01:20:14,467 They've had the courage to stand up 1361 01:20:14,533 --> 01:20:17,133 to the naysayers and they endured that 1362 01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:19,967 from the beginning, even... Even before I was returned. 1363 01:20:22,066 --> 01:20:24,767 I lived it and it's still hard to believe. 1364 01:20:24,834 --> 01:20:27,433 Man, I've been called a liar so many times. 1365 01:20:29,767 --> 01:20:32,266 I'm just used to it, I guess. It doesn't really bother me. 1366 01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:34,367 If you believe it, you believe it. You don't, you don't. 1367 01:20:35,667 --> 01:20:38,767 It's always gonna be there, you know. 1368 01:20:38,867 --> 01:20:39,418 And sometime if bothers me a lot, 1369 01:20:39,418 --> 01:20:41,266 And sometime if bothers me a lot, 1370 01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:43,934 you know, but it did happen and why did it happen? 1371 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,333 Why was it us? 1372 01:20:46,567 --> 01:20:49,266 Everybody was affected differently, you know. 1373 01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:53,066 Greatly affected my life, but it's all for the better I think. 1374 01:20:53,133 --> 01:20:54,433 For the better. 1375 01:20:57,467 --> 01:20:58,567 It was real. 1376 01:21:00,066 --> 01:21:01,734 It was real that day. 1377 01:21:04,967 --> 01:21:07,266 What I would say to skeptics is 1378 01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,418 walk a mile in my shoes. 1379 01:21:10,166 --> 01:21:12,000 They need to do more research, 1380 01:21:12,066 --> 01:21:13,967 they need to be more open minded. 1381 01:21:14,634 --> 01:21:17,066 Oh, got it! 1382 01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:19,634 Woo-hoo! 1383 01:21:19,634 --> 01:21:22,767 Now, recent government disclosures 1384 01:21:22,867 --> 01:21:25,266 lend further credence to the experiences 1385 01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:27,967 of Travis and his fellow crewmembers. 1386 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,767 The last three years, basically, 1387 01:21:31,834 --> 01:21:35,367 we have seen story after story that establishes, 1388 01:21:35,433 --> 01:21:38,967 uh, that UFOs are more real than anybody's ever believed. 1389 01:21:40,467 --> 01:21:43,266 Perhaps the most important modern-day 1390 01:21:43,333 --> 01:21:46,000 revelation from our government is an official 1391 01:21:46,066 --> 01:21:48,266 acknowledgement that the phenomenon is real. 1392 01:21:48,967 --> 01:21:50,533 Something is going on. 1393 01:21:52,233 --> 01:21:55,467 We definitely cannot rule out extraterrestrial. 1394 01:21:55,533 --> 01:21:59,467 If the world had felt the same back in 1975, 1395 01:21:59,567 --> 01:22:01,367 I don't think that the case would've received 1396 01:22:01,433 --> 01:22:04,066 so much negative criticism and ridicule. 1397 01:22:05,634 --> 01:22:07,567 I think that the reason 1398 01:22:09,418 --> 01:22:11,367 the Pentagon disclosures film and statements 1399 01:22:11,467 --> 01:22:14,133 that they have evidence, it's basically they're saying, 1400 01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:17,233 "It's a matter of fact." It's very.. 1401 01:22:17,233 --> 01:22:18,667 It's very good progress. 1402 01:22:18,734 --> 01:22:21,367 So it's a relief that they're going to come 1403 01:22:21,467 --> 01:22:23,767 so far as to say, "Yes, there's something here 1404 01:22:23,867 --> 01:22:25,567 and we don't know what it is." 1405 01:22:27,033 --> 01:22:29,367 I think that one of the things you're going to see 1406 01:22:29,467 --> 01:22:31,767 happening in the next few years are we're gonna have 1407 01:22:31,834 --> 01:22:34,567 congressional hearings on this very topic 1408 01:22:35,333 --> 01:22:37,367 and I would submit to the senators 1409 01:22:37,433 --> 01:22:38,867 and the congress people 1410 01:22:39,418 --> 01:22:41,467 who are thinking of putting those hearings together 1411 01:22:41,567 --> 01:22:44,133 that they might want to consider calling up Travis Walton 1412 01:22:44,133 --> 01:22:46,834 and bringing him up to Washington and asking him 1413 01:22:46,834 --> 01:22:49,767 to tell his story directly. I think they'd like to hear it. 1414 01:22:54,767 --> 01:22:59,066 This is the place where my life was changed forever. 1415 01:22:59,133 --> 01:23:02,166 Eventually I'm hoping something good will come of it. 1416 01:23:03,567 --> 01:23:05,166 At the minimum, 1417 01:23:05,266 --> 01:23:09,418 uh, make humans realize that we're not so special, 1418 01:23:09,967 --> 01:23:12,767 uh, that, uh, the world there is. 1419 01:23:15,834 --> 01:23:18,967 The fact that these aliens exist after all this time 1420 01:23:19,033 --> 01:23:22,467 with vastly superior technology 1421 01:23:23,066 --> 01:23:25,467 has to mean that they, uh, 1422 01:23:25,567 --> 01:23:29,100 ceased to be war like in attacking each other. 1423 01:23:29,166 --> 01:23:32,033 So it's, uh, sort of a message to humanity 1424 01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:35,266 to figure out to be a whole lot less savage 1425 01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:38,867 and a whole lot smarter about where we're going with all this. 111483

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