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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:04,400 Narrator: 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:04,530 Narrator: In 1996, 3 00:00:05,667 --> 00:00:07,267 a California homeowner 4 00:00:07,266 --> 00:00:09,026 made a horrifying discovery 5 00:00:09,033 --> 00:00:12,133 in his backyard. 6 00:00:12,133 --> 00:00:13,633 It was a human skull. 7 00:00:16,033 --> 00:00:20,173 Narrator: And a dark, deadly tragedy started to unfold. 8 00:00:20,166 --> 00:00:23,666 I'd start finding little bones, small bones. 9 00:00:23,667 --> 00:00:27,767 You have to wonder, who would do something like that to a child? 10 00:00:27,767 --> 00:00:29,627 Chris Minsal: That's what shook people, 11 00:00:29,633 --> 00:00:31,173 'cause a lot of things can happen in back yards, 12 00:00:31,166 --> 00:00:33,296 and you just don't know. 13 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:34,670 Narrator: A year's long search 14 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:36,697 to find a missing loved one 15 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:39,430 was brought back to life. 16 00:00:39,433 --> 00:00:42,733 I never believed that they didn't want to be found. 17 00:00:42,734 --> 00:00:45,674 Narrator: It was a bizarre mystery 18 00:00:45,667 --> 00:00:49,727 that sent detectives down an unexpected road. 19 00:00:49,734 --> 00:00:53,204 Joe Martinez: We identified veterinarians within a 10-mile radius, 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,730 and we started knocking on their doors. 21 00:00:55,734 --> 00:00:58,174 Kelli Wilson: But we knew there was a monster out there. 22 00:00:58,166 --> 00:01:00,126 I didn't want this to happen to anybody else. 23 00:01:14,266 --> 00:01:14,466 Narrator: 24 00:01:14,467 --> 00:01:14,997 Narrator: In the high-desert town 25 00:01:15,467 --> 00:01:17,297 of Littlerock, California, 26 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:19,400 summer days are hot and lazy 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,500 and typically nothing blows through town. 28 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:26,070 Chris Minsal: When I was a kid, we had about three stoplights, 29 00:01:26,066 --> 00:01:30,166 and I think we have about six stoplights now, maybe seven. 30 00:01:30,166 --> 00:01:31,726 Very, very quiet. 31 00:01:31,734 --> 00:01:33,774 Every once in a while you'll get a really loud rooster. 32 00:01:33,767 --> 00:01:36,067 ( laughs ) 33 00:01:36,066 --> 00:01:39,326 Lot of people raise their own chickens, horses, pigs. 34 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:42,333 It's very comfortable and very nice living. 35 00:01:42,333 --> 00:01:45,033 You'd be lucky if you'd see a sheriff twice a week, 36 00:01:45,033 --> 00:01:46,733 three times a week. 37 00:01:46,734 --> 00:01:48,774 It is a rough little gem, 38 00:01:48,767 --> 00:01:51,097 that's far from being polished, 39 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:52,730 and we prefer to keep it that way. 40 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:58,070 Narrator: In August of 1996, 41 00:01:58,066 --> 00:01:59,496 when Detective Joe Martinez 42 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:02,270 got word about an unusual discovery, 43 00:02:02,266 --> 00:02:05,996 his adrenaline kicked in. 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,530 Martinez: I receive a call from my lieutenant. 45 00:02:07,533 --> 00:02:09,203 It was my day off. 46 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,400 However, he needed someone to go take a look, 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,070 so he asked me if I would go take a look, 48 00:02:14,066 --> 00:02:15,696 and I said, "Yeah, I'll go take a look." 49 00:02:17,533 --> 00:02:20,003 So I finally get there. 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,370 And I spoke to the homeowner. 51 00:02:25,533 --> 00:02:27,133 They had been living there 52 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:29,533 for about five, six months, 53 00:02:29,533 --> 00:02:32,533 and they decided that it was time to clean up the back yard 54 00:02:32,533 --> 00:02:34,233 where there was a bunch of tree limbs. 55 00:02:38,133 --> 00:02:40,003 And while cleaning up that area, 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,470 that resident felt the ground very spongy. 57 00:02:45,166 --> 00:02:48,696 He decided to remove several inches of dirt, 58 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:51,270 and he came upon the corrugated tin 59 00:02:51,266 --> 00:02:53,296 and then the plywood. 60 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:55,670 And when he lifted both of them up, 61 00:02:55,667 --> 00:02:59,567 there was a hole. 62 00:02:59,567 --> 00:03:01,697 The hole was kind of a rectangular hole, 63 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:04,170 maybe a three-by-four size, 64 00:03:04,166 --> 00:03:07,296 and about six feet deep. 65 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:09,400 Narrator: When the homeowner peered inside, 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,470 he saw a neatly wrapped bundle. 67 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:17,067 Was it trash? Or someone's treasure? 68 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:20,270 His curiosity fully piqued, 69 00:03:20,266 --> 00:03:22,426 the homeowner didn't waste a minute more 70 00:03:22,433 --> 00:03:25,203 getting to the bundle. 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,730 Martinez: So he jumps in. He lifts it up. 72 00:03:28,734 --> 00:03:31,104 He started unwrapping it. 73 00:03:34,667 --> 00:03:37,627 Narrator: And what fell to the ground was ghastly. 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,500 It was a human skull. 75 00:03:51,533 --> 00:03:54,203 Once the unraveling of the blanket was made, 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,670 you could actually see the rest of the human remains. 77 00:03:58,667 --> 00:04:01,127 Narrator: This seasoned detective was rarely shaken, 78 00:04:01,133 --> 00:04:04,433 and instantly knew he needed to call in help. 79 00:04:04,433 --> 00:04:06,073 Martinez: It was very disturbing. 80 00:04:06,066 --> 00:04:10,066 When we first come across human remains like that 81 00:04:10,066 --> 00:04:12,066 and they're not advertising who they are. 82 00:04:12,066 --> 00:04:17,096 So, it's up to us to identify who that victim is. 83 00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:19,500 I'm not trained in that. 84 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:22,500 So I had to get a forensic specialist to the scene 85 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:25,000 to tell us what we had. 86 00:04:31,033 --> 00:04:34,473 Narrator: Doctor Debra Gray was one of the best in her field. 87 00:04:34,467 --> 00:04:39,367 And was called in to try and help solve this baffling mystery. 88 00:04:39,367 --> 00:04:43,497 A forensic archaeologist is a person who's been trained 89 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:48,470 in archaeological techniques of recovery in a crime scene. 90 00:04:48,467 --> 00:04:50,667 Narrator: When Doctor Gray arrives on any scene, 91 00:04:50,667 --> 00:04:53,367 she knows someone has become the target 92 00:04:53,367 --> 00:04:54,997 of a disturbing crime. 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,600 Gray: They're all victims. 94 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,630 Somebody has hurt them, we don't know why. 95 00:04:58,633 --> 00:05:01,073 We don't know any of the whole story. 96 00:05:01,066 --> 00:05:06,126 Our job is to concentrate on recovering whatever we can 97 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:09,403 to tell that decedent's story. 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,270 Narrator: Doctor Gray set upon the grisly task 99 00:05:12,266 --> 00:05:14,266 of examining the human remains. 100 00:05:14,266 --> 00:05:16,396 She hoped the bones would give her a glimpse 101 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,600 into the final hours of the victim's life. 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,630 Gray: The bones themselves were by and large devoid of flesh. 103 00:05:23,633 --> 00:05:25,503 There was no soft tissue adhering. 104 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:27,500 Maybe a little bit of mummified tissue. 105 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,670 So we knew it had been at least a year 106 00:05:29,667 --> 00:05:32,427 since the decedent had passed away. 107 00:05:32,433 --> 00:05:37,133 Narrator: A closer look at the skull revealed more disturbing clues 108 00:05:37,133 --> 00:05:40,503 that shed light on a horrible death. 109 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:43,700 Normally a human skull is kind of round 110 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:47,400 and ovaloid and complete in its shape. 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,400 In this case, there were holes in its skull. 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,570 Our first indication when we looked at it, 113 00:05:52,567 --> 00:05:54,397 was that it was blunt force trauma. 114 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:00,630 Narrator: Though the coroner would determine 115 00:06:00,633 --> 00:06:03,773 the exact cause of death, Doctor Gray was all but certain 116 00:06:03,767 --> 00:06:06,297 the victim suffered a horrific end. 117 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:08,230 But who was it? 118 00:06:08,233 --> 00:06:12,003 And how did they end up buried in this backyard? 119 00:06:13,066 --> 00:06:15,026 Gray: It's very cruel. 120 00:06:15,033 --> 00:06:17,073 You have to divorce yourself from it, 121 00:06:17,066 --> 00:06:20,196 because you can't do the job if you're sitting there crying. 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,130 We wanna find the answer. We wanna know what happened. 123 00:06:26,033 --> 00:06:29,733 Narrator: Questions about the unusual hole lingered in the air 124 00:06:29,734 --> 00:06:34,734 until Detective Martinez discovered some unsettling new information. 125 00:06:34,734 --> 00:06:38,734 Martinez: There was a drain pipe that lead away from the hole. 126 00:06:38,734 --> 00:06:42,434 Okay, I have a drain pipe that leads away from the hole. 127 00:06:42,433 --> 00:06:45,403 So then I thought that it used to be the septic tank. 128 00:06:47,266 --> 00:06:48,996 Gray: So here we have an individual 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,600 who's buried in a septic tank. 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,770 It's like you're disposing of somebody 131 00:06:53,767 --> 00:06:56,467 in a most inhumane way. 132 00:06:56,467 --> 00:06:58,227 It's very cruel. 133 00:06:58,233 --> 00:06:59,703 But why would somebody do that? 134 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:03,700 Narrator: Word of human bones being pulled out 135 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:06,700 of an old septic tank in one of their neighborhood backyards 136 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:10,700 spread lightning fast through the tiny community of Littlerock. 137 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:14,370 And fear soon followed. 138 00:07:14,367 --> 00:07:17,427 When I heard that there was a body in a septic tank-- 139 00:07:17,433 --> 00:07:19,373 it made people uneasy. 140 00:07:19,367 --> 00:07:21,427 It kinda made you question what was happening, 141 00:07:21,433 --> 00:07:23,233 because a lot of things can happen in backyards 142 00:07:23,233 --> 00:07:24,603 and you just don't know. 143 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,500 Everyone has their own big enough property 144 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:28,370 that you're not looking at your neighbor. 145 00:07:28,367 --> 00:07:30,167 You see 'em from the front door 146 00:07:30,166 --> 00:07:32,326 but you never see anything from the backdoor. 147 00:07:32,333 --> 00:07:33,633 That's what shook people. 148 00:07:33,633 --> 00:07:35,403 'Cause it was in a backyard 149 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,400 and no one ever had any clue. 150 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,100 Narrator: The grim scene continued to unfold 151 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:46,130 and Doctor Gray handled the evidence cautiously. 152 00:07:46,133 --> 00:07:48,133 Gray: You don't want to mess 153 00:07:48,133 --> 00:07:50,073 with remains out at the scene too much 154 00:07:50,066 --> 00:07:52,066 'cause there may be evidence in that bundle 155 00:07:52,066 --> 00:07:55,096 that's going to explain who did it and how. 156 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:57,630 The idea about a buried body 157 00:07:57,633 --> 00:08:00,533 is the grave is your informant. 158 00:08:00,533 --> 00:08:03,003 And if you kill your informant 159 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,600 before you get all the information out of 'em, 160 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,100 you've just blown it. 161 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:09,600 The bones, we left them alone. 162 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,530 The identity and the gender and the age 163 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:14,733 and the stature would be confirmed. 164 00:08:14,734 --> 00:08:18,004 Once we got those remains back to the Department of the Coroner, 165 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,270 they could be laid out and gone through. 166 00:08:21,266 --> 00:08:24,126 Narrator: The doctor proceeded with a keen sense of focus 167 00:08:24,133 --> 00:08:28,533 as she got intimately familiar with the grisly gravesite. 168 00:08:28,533 --> 00:08:31,173 Just because you have the body out of the hole 169 00:08:31,166 --> 00:08:33,496 doesn't mean there's not something else in it. 170 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:36,430 We have to get in the hole and examine it. 171 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:45,170 Narrator: Doctor Gray discovered new disturbing evidence 172 00:08:45,166 --> 00:08:47,296 from the backyard grave. 173 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:49,670 One of the things we found in the bottom of the hole 174 00:08:49,667 --> 00:08:52,767 was a plastic bag with a wire ligature around it. 175 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:56,470 And we found dentures. 176 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 I find this other artifact. 177 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,400 We don't know what it is. 178 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,100 A device with leather straps, metal. 179 00:09:08,333 --> 00:09:10,333 Martinez: Was hoping that it was a murder weapon, 180 00:09:10,333 --> 00:09:14,403 which then would be a significant piece of my investigation. 181 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Narrator: Gray continued digging. 182 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,430 And suddenly made her most horrifying discovery yet. 183 00:09:20,433 --> 00:09:23,173 I'm in the hole and I start finding little bones. 184 00:09:23,166 --> 00:09:24,626 Small bones. 185 00:09:28,333 --> 00:09:31,603 That's when we found-- wait, there's not one body, 186 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,770 there's two bodies. 187 00:09:38,333 --> 00:09:40,103 I start finding small ribs. 188 00:09:42,166 --> 00:09:44,666 We're afraid that maybe it's a child buried. 189 00:09:54,667 --> 00:09:55,067 Narrator: 190 00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:55,526 Narrator: In 1996, a disturbing reality 191 00:09:55,533 --> 00:09:56,173 Narrator: In 1996, a disturbing reality blew through the desert town 192 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:01,470 of Littlerock, California. 193 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:04,767 Investigators had unearthed the human remains 194 00:10:04,767 --> 00:10:08,197 of an unknown victim in the backyard of a home. 195 00:10:13,567 --> 00:10:16,427 But there was another horrifying discovery. 196 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,370 Gray: I start finding little bones. 197 00:10:20,367 --> 00:10:22,127 Small ribs. 198 00:10:22,133 --> 00:10:25,633 We're afraid that maybe it's a child buried. 199 00:10:25,633 --> 00:10:28,403 Burying a child carries a lot more emotional weight 200 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,070 than burying an adult. 201 00:10:31,066 --> 00:10:33,526 I don't know why, but it does. 202 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:37,233 When I found out that there were small bones, rib bones, 203 00:10:37,233 --> 00:10:41,533 I as a father then felt that information was kinda personal. 204 00:10:41,533 --> 00:10:44,073 Narrator: The crime was unsettling. 205 00:10:44,066 --> 00:10:48,196 And investigators had more questions than answers. 206 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Was it possible they just uncovered the remains 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,230 of a parent and child? 208 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,470 And if so, who could be behind such a gruesome crime? 209 00:10:59,467 --> 00:11:02,327 Gray: We are the last voice for that decedent. 210 00:11:02,333 --> 00:11:05,033 So we have to protect that decedent's rights. 211 00:11:05,033 --> 00:11:07,703 We have to protect that decedent's identity. 212 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:12,170 And more importantly, we have to protect that decedent's story. 213 00:11:12,166 --> 00:11:15,026 Narrator: The bones were sent to the coroner, 214 00:11:15,033 --> 00:11:17,103 where they hoped a thorough examination 215 00:11:17,100 --> 00:11:19,670 would help identify the victim 216 00:11:19,667 --> 00:11:22,527 and unravel this deadly tale. 217 00:11:22,533 --> 00:11:24,533 Gray: The coroner's office determined 218 00:11:24,533 --> 00:11:27,533 that the remains were those of a female 219 00:11:27,533 --> 00:11:29,433 over the age of 35, 220 00:11:29,433 --> 00:11:32,673 probably five-foot-five or taller. 221 00:11:32,667 --> 00:11:35,997 Martinez: The person would be a Caucasian female. 222 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,570 There were still some hair that was found in the bundle. 223 00:11:38,567 --> 00:11:41,427 Brownish, reddish color hair. 224 00:11:41,433 --> 00:11:44,103 And so, we had some parameters. 225 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:47,030 Narrator: The medical examiner also determined 226 00:11:47,033 --> 00:11:48,733 the female victim had likely been dead 227 00:11:48,734 --> 00:11:50,734 for about three years. 228 00:11:50,734 --> 00:11:54,134 And before being buried in the septic tank, 229 00:11:54,133 --> 00:11:57,333 she met an unseemly demise. 230 00:11:57,333 --> 00:12:00,333 This victim was struck at last two times 231 00:12:00,333 --> 00:12:02,733 on the side of the head, very hard, 232 00:12:02,734 --> 00:12:05,304 causing two fractures to the skull. 233 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:07,470 I don't know if it was a baseball bat 234 00:12:07,467 --> 00:12:11,167 or a hammer, but some sort of heavy object. 235 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:15,727 Buried bodies are always upsetting, 236 00:12:15,734 --> 00:12:19,074 because there's always some sort of personal relationship 237 00:12:19,066 --> 00:12:22,696 between the decedent and the perpetrator. 238 00:12:24,734 --> 00:12:27,634 Narrator: Their Jane Doe die a most violent death 239 00:12:27,633 --> 00:12:30,273 at the hands of someone she knew? 240 00:12:33,333 --> 00:12:36,603 While the second set of bones were being examined, 241 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Detective Martinez set out to identify the victim. 242 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:46,230 I still didn't have information 243 00:12:46,233 --> 00:12:48,673 about the first victim. 244 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:52,500 Narrator: Three years earlier, 245 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:54,700 and 2,000 miles away in Oklahoma, 246 00:12:54,700 --> 00:12:57,030 Kimberlee Rampey and her sister, Kelli, 247 00:12:57,033 --> 00:13:01,233 were looking for their mother, 51-year-old Barbara Weston. 248 00:13:01,233 --> 00:13:05,573 I contacted the L.A. County Sheriff's Department and said, 249 00:13:05,567 --> 00:13:08,027 "Listen, this may be nothing, 250 00:13:08,033 --> 00:13:10,533 but my mom, she was headed back to Oklahoma 251 00:13:10,533 --> 00:13:12,673 and I hadn't heard from her. 252 00:13:12,667 --> 00:13:15,227 Narrator: As Kimberlee was explaining that her mom was moving 253 00:13:15,233 --> 00:13:17,633 from her home in California to Oklahoma, 254 00:13:17,633 --> 00:13:21,773 she started wondering if her call was unwarranted. 255 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,130 Rampey: My mom had friends along the way back to Oklahoma, 256 00:13:28,133 --> 00:13:30,003 and so I could see her stopping 257 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 and visiting people along the way. 258 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,070 So, I thought, "She'll be back within the next week or two." 259 00:13:36,333 --> 00:13:38,473 But in a couple of weeks she wasn't. 260 00:13:40,133 --> 00:13:41,733 Narrator: Perhaps Barbara had taken 261 00:13:41,734 --> 00:13:44,074 an extended road trip. 262 00:13:45,266 --> 00:13:46,666 So we just had to wait. 263 00:13:46,667 --> 00:13:48,127 And we were hoping that we could wait it out 264 00:13:48,133 --> 00:13:49,403 and then she'd eventually show up. 265 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,300 But, you know, we waited a long time. 266 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:53,270 We waited a very long time. 267 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:57,130 Narrator: Not knowing what else to do, 268 00:13:57,133 --> 00:13:59,273 Kimberlee called the sheriff's office every month 269 00:13:59,266 --> 00:14:00,766 for the next year, 270 00:14:00,767 --> 00:14:05,167 until the day a deputy delivered a harsh truth. 271 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:07,366 He said to me, "You may just need to accept 272 00:14:07,367 --> 00:14:11,267 that your mom has started a new life, 273 00:14:11,266 --> 00:14:14,526 and she doesn't want to be found. 274 00:14:16,266 --> 00:14:19,426 That was the last time I called. 275 00:14:19,433 --> 00:14:24,633 ( voice breaks ) And I never called him again. 276 00:14:24,633 --> 00:14:27,633 Narrator: Barbara's daughters knew their mom has a wanderlust spirit, 277 00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:31,473 but they couldn't believe she would leave them for good. 278 00:14:33,467 --> 00:14:36,697 My mother had remarried after being married to my father. 279 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:40,730 And they got jobs at Lockheed in California. 280 00:14:40,734 --> 00:14:43,734 So, they took the four of us siblings 281 00:14:43,734 --> 00:14:46,334 and we moved to California away from Oklahoma, 282 00:14:46,333 --> 00:14:49,403 which had been our home our whole lives. 283 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,470 The four of us siblings lived there with her 284 00:14:52,467 --> 00:14:54,327 and my stepdad for four years. 285 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:58,473 After she and my stepdad divorced, 286 00:14:58,467 --> 00:15:01,667 my dad had made arrangements for us to stay in Oklahoma. 287 00:15:01,667 --> 00:15:03,727 She stayed in California. 288 00:15:03,734 --> 00:15:06,034 She just had a wanderlust 289 00:15:06,033 --> 00:15:09,073 to be going and moving all the time. 290 00:15:09,066 --> 00:15:12,726 Narrator: Barbara was ready for new beginnings in Oklahoma. 291 00:15:12,734 --> 00:15:17,774 So for her to suddenly disappear didn't make sense. 292 00:15:17,767 --> 00:15:19,767 I never believed 293 00:15:19,767 --> 00:15:22,497 that she didn't want to be found. 294 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:25,470 In my heart I never would've believed that. 295 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:32,570 Narrator: If the bones belonged to Barbara Weston, 296 00:15:32,567 --> 00:15:35,767 then who might the small set of bones belong to? 297 00:15:35,767 --> 00:15:39,497 With no young children, investigators wondered 298 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:42,500 how Barbara might be connected to this case. 299 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:44,730 Gray: When we're starting to go through those bones 300 00:15:44,734 --> 00:15:46,604 and laying them out, 301 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,070 we're afraid that maybe it's a child. 302 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:52,370 Narrator: As Doctor Gray examined the bones more closely, 303 00:15:52,367 --> 00:15:57,397 the investigation took a bizarre turn. 304 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,100 We've realized this isn't a child. 305 00:16:02,133 --> 00:16:05,673 It's a dog. 306 00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:07,767 Okay, we have a dead person. 307 00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:11,133 And a dead dog. 308 00:16:11,133 --> 00:16:14,633 And that dog probably belonged to that person. 309 00:16:16,667 --> 00:16:18,667 At this point, I believe whoever did this 310 00:16:18,667 --> 00:16:20,467 it was to get rid of the dog, 311 00:16:20,467 --> 00:16:23,127 because that dog can provide connection 312 00:16:23,133 --> 00:16:25,533 with the victim that was in the hole. 313 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:28,673 Narrator: But who was the victim? 314 00:16:28,667 --> 00:16:31,267 While they died from blunt force trauma, 315 00:16:31,266 --> 00:16:36,126 Doctor Gray discovered the dog suffered its own tragic death. 316 00:16:36,133 --> 00:16:39,703 Someone had placed a plastic bag over that dog's head 317 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:45,030 and twisted a wire ligature around its neck until it died, 318 00:16:45,033 --> 00:16:49,403 which speaks volumes of the perpetrator. 319 00:16:51,166 --> 00:16:53,296 Narrator: An artifact found with the bones 320 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:55,700 might speak louder still. 321 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:58,700 One of the most interesting things that came out 322 00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:00,570 during that excavation, 323 00:17:00,567 --> 00:17:03,297 it was a device with leather straps, 324 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:06,570 metal, and little wheels on the back. 325 00:17:06,567 --> 00:17:08,767 It would not be unusual 326 00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:11,767 for a suspect to dispose of a weapon 327 00:17:11,767 --> 00:17:17,327 that's used, uh, same area where the body is disposed of. 328 00:17:19,166 --> 00:17:21,126 We had determined that the gadget 329 00:17:21,133 --> 00:17:23,033 that was down in the hole 330 00:17:23,033 --> 00:17:24,503 was not the murder weapon. 331 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,530 It was a device that was intended to assist a dog 332 00:17:30,533 --> 00:17:34,273 that had problems with her rear legs. 333 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:36,596 That was a big clue for me. 334 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,270 I felt that people would recognize the dog 335 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:41,296 before they recognized the person. 336 00:17:53,633 --> 00:17:54,033 Narrator: 337 00:17:54,033 --> 00:17:54,333 Narrator: In the rural town 338 00:17:54,333 --> 00:17:54,733 Narrator: In the rural town of Littlerock, California, 339 00:17:56,333 --> 00:18:01,473 investigators learned a woman and a dog have been savagely killed. 340 00:18:01,467 --> 00:18:04,067 The mystery of who the victims were 341 00:18:04,066 --> 00:18:07,066 and how they ended up in a backyard septic tank 342 00:18:07,066 --> 00:18:08,696 was still unraveling. 343 00:18:10,233 --> 00:18:12,073 The "L.A. Times" picked up the story 344 00:18:12,066 --> 00:18:14,466 because of how the body was found. 345 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:21,500 There was a woman buried with her dog. 346 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:23,470 It did shake people up. 347 00:18:23,467 --> 00:18:27,467 And how did someone get away with that? 348 00:18:27,467 --> 00:18:30,097 Narrator: 51-year-old Barbara Weston 349 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:32,370 went missing about three years ago. 350 00:18:32,367 --> 00:18:34,627 And while confirming she was the victim 351 00:18:34,633 --> 00:18:36,373 would take more time, 352 00:18:36,367 --> 00:18:38,767 investigators hoped the bones of the dog 353 00:18:38,767 --> 00:18:42,267 may provide a promising clue. 354 00:18:42,266 --> 00:18:46,396 L.A. County Coroner called in a forensic vet 355 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,670 to come in and examine the dog. 356 00:18:48,667 --> 00:18:52,097 We had his vertebra, we had his ribs. 357 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:55,100 The vertebra were malaligned. 358 00:18:55,100 --> 00:19:00,400 The forensic veterinarian did identify as a dachshund mix. 359 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,770 And did identify the fact 360 00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:06,527 that the dog was probably paralyzed. 361 00:19:08,533 --> 00:19:10,403 Narrator: With his biggest lead yet, 362 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,530 Detective Martinez didn't miss a beat 363 00:19:12,533 --> 00:19:15,503 knocking on the doors of concerned, curious neighbors. 364 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,270 Minsal: I remember seeing this dog 365 00:19:21,266 --> 00:19:23,266 in its special little wheel cart, 366 00:19:23,266 --> 00:19:26,426 and so did tons of other people. 367 00:19:26,433 --> 00:19:30,433 I had a connection with the pooch, the little dog. 368 00:19:30,433 --> 00:19:34,573 So, when I found out it was the dog with the wheels, 369 00:19:34,567 --> 00:19:38,167 that's when it sunk for me, 'cause I'm an animal person. 370 00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:42,166 Martinez: One of them said that the dog's name was Willie. 371 00:19:42,166 --> 00:19:45,666 They couldn't really pinpoint who the owner of the dog was, 372 00:19:45,667 --> 00:19:49,027 but this was evidence that could solve this case. 373 00:19:52,166 --> 00:19:56,026 I knew that if I could find a veterinarian 374 00:19:56,033 --> 00:19:58,303 that treated a dog named Willie, 375 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:00,570 they would have a record as to who the owners were. 376 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:05,430 So, we identified veterinarians 377 00:20:05,433 --> 00:20:08,173 within a 10-mile radius of that neighborhood. 378 00:20:08,166 --> 00:20:10,696 And we started knocking on their doors. 379 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:14,330 Narrator: Was Detective Martinez setting out on a fruitless search? 380 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:19,473 Or would this time-consuming process lead him to his victim? 381 00:20:19,467 --> 00:20:23,597 None of the veterinarians can remember treating a handicapped dog. 382 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Narrator: Detective Martinez prayed his persistence would pay off. 383 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,170 And finally it did. 384 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,200 One day we went to High Desert Animal Hospital 385 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,200 and spoke with the veterinarian there. 386 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,300 I'll never forget in August of 1996, 387 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:46,300 Officer Martinez came in and he said, 388 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:49,230 "Do you recall having a patient 389 00:20:49,233 --> 00:20:52,073 that was a dog that was handicapped?" 390 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:54,326 I said, "Yes." 391 00:20:54,333 --> 00:20:57,773 We had nursed him through an extensive period of time 392 00:20:57,767 --> 00:21:01,067 for his issue, which was a collapsed disc. 393 00:21:01,066 --> 00:21:05,066 And he seemed to be doing quite well. 394 00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:08,426 Narrator: The end of Willie's life came as a shock. 395 00:21:11,767 --> 00:21:14,367 Never had an officer come to ask me 396 00:21:14,367 --> 00:21:16,097 about a potential homicide. 397 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:21,100 I was surprised and alarmed and concerned. 398 00:21:24,467 --> 00:21:27,767 Now I had to get the record of who owned the dog. 399 00:21:27,767 --> 00:21:32,127 Naiditch: I was able to go and pull the file. 400 00:21:32,133 --> 00:21:37,403 And listed in the file was the owner, 401 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,630 Barbara Weston. 402 00:21:46,633 --> 00:21:48,533 Narrator: It had been three long years 403 00:21:48,533 --> 00:21:50,633 since Barbara's daughters had seen their mom 404 00:21:50,633 --> 00:21:53,273 or her beloved dog Willie. 405 00:21:53,266 --> 00:21:56,726 Rampey: Willie was my mom's pride and joy. 406 00:21:56,734 --> 00:21:59,374 Willie was just a cute little black dachshund 407 00:21:59,367 --> 00:22:02,627 that she had a kind of a constant companion. 408 00:22:02,633 --> 00:22:06,273 Wilson: There were some issues with his back legs and his spine. 409 00:22:06,266 --> 00:22:09,996 And so somehow my mother was able to get him a wheelchair 410 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,570 for his tail end. 411 00:22:11,567 --> 00:22:14,997 So, you couldn't help but giggle anytime you saw Willie. 412 00:22:17,033 --> 00:22:19,273 My mom would've done anything for Willie. 413 00:22:19,266 --> 00:22:23,096 She couldn't stand the thought of not having Willie with her. 414 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,270 They went everywhere together. 415 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,400 Narrator: The question remained. 416 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,300 Did they die tragically together? 417 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:36,130 We had to identify Barbara. 418 00:22:36,133 --> 00:22:39,033 Investigators believed they had the one piece of evidence 419 00:22:39,033 --> 00:22:42,703 needed to unravel this terrifying mystery. 420 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:44,670 We had dentures. 421 00:22:47,667 --> 00:22:50,167 Narrator: Would the dentures prove Barbara was the victim 422 00:22:50,166 --> 00:22:52,266 of this unspeakable crime? 423 00:22:54,567 --> 00:22:58,327 Days later, Detective Martinez got the confirmation 424 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:01,473 he'd been anxiously awaiting. 425 00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:04,727 I was able to retrieve the X-rays from the dental office 426 00:23:04,734 --> 00:23:07,334 and provide that with the-- to the coroner's office, 427 00:23:07,333 --> 00:23:10,203 and then they were able to make a match 428 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,570 and positively identify Barbara Weston. 429 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:23,070 Rampey: August 19th, it was 1996, 430 00:23:23,066 --> 00:23:26,196 and my sister called. 431 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,730 And said, "What are you doing?" 432 00:23:29,734 --> 00:23:31,674 Wilson: I said, "Kimberlee, I need you to stay home, 433 00:23:31,667 --> 00:23:33,327 'cause we're on our way." And she goes, "What's wrong?" 434 00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:35,373 And I said, "Well, 435 00:23:35,367 --> 00:23:37,227 I just need you to stay at home because we're on our way." 436 00:23:37,233 --> 00:23:39,603 And she said, "It's Mom, isn't it?" 437 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,770 And I said, "Yeah. 438 00:23:41,767 --> 00:23:43,627 We're on our way. Don't leave the house." 439 00:23:43,633 --> 00:23:46,773 Rampey: And I said, "Is she dead?" 440 00:23:46,767 --> 00:23:48,627 And Kelli said, 441 00:23:48,633 --> 00:23:50,233 "Kim, I don't wanna talk about this on the phone." 442 00:23:50,233 --> 00:23:53,733 And I said, "Kelli, is she dead?" 443 00:23:53,734 --> 00:23:55,774 And she said, "Yes. 444 00:23:55,767 --> 00:23:57,467 We'll be there in a few minutes." 445 00:24:02,767 --> 00:24:06,497 Wilson: You just never dream that it's gonna end up like it did. 446 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,500 You just don't ever dream that your mom's gonna be murdered. 447 00:24:12,633 --> 00:24:15,703 I just remember thinking, "Who does that?" 448 00:24:17,767 --> 00:24:21,067 Who kills not only a human but who kills a dog? 449 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,330 What kind of monster does that? 450 00:24:42,133 --> 00:24:42,303 Narrator: 451 00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:42,670 Narrator: It had been an agonizing 452 00:24:42,667 --> 00:24:43,097 Narrator: It had been an agonizing three years 453 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:46,500 for the family of 51-year-old Barbara Weston 454 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,570 since her disappearance. 455 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,400 Learning she'd been murdered and buried with her dog, 456 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,400 and wondering who would want to kill their mom, 457 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,470 was a different kind of agony altogether. 458 00:25:02,033 --> 00:25:05,033 Wilson: She'd been gone for years and you'd just never dream 459 00:25:05,033 --> 00:25:09,173 that it's gonna end up like it did. 460 00:25:09,166 --> 00:25:12,096 Rampey: A child never wants to lose a parent. 461 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:15,300 Just like a parent never wants to lose a child. 462 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,700 But it wasn't that she didn't want to be found. 463 00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:20,570 She wanted to be found. 464 00:25:20,567 --> 00:25:22,227 She just couldn't give the clues. 465 00:25:22,233 --> 00:25:25,273 She couldn't help anybody find her. 466 00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:36,300 Narrator: It was impossible to make sense of their shocking new reality. 467 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:40,000 So Barbara's daughters chose to focus on the good. 468 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,730 Wilson: I always thought she was very beautiful. 469 00:25:41,734 --> 00:25:43,734 She always had kind of an auburn color of hair, 470 00:25:43,734 --> 00:25:46,204 which is probably why I wish I could 471 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,200 have red hair all the time because I loved her red hair. 472 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,730 Rampey: Mom was a singer. She was a very good singer. 473 00:25:52,734 --> 00:25:55,204 There was always music at the house. 474 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,330 She was always laughing and joking. 475 00:25:58,333 --> 00:25:59,603 And very energetic. 476 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,130 We tagged along everywhere she went. 477 00:26:02,133 --> 00:26:05,333 I think my mom tried very hard to be a good mom at times. 478 00:26:05,333 --> 00:26:07,133 I think she came up short sometimes. 479 00:26:07,133 --> 00:26:09,073 I do know that she loved us. 480 00:26:09,066 --> 00:26:11,466 I don't know that she always... 481 00:26:11,467 --> 00:26:13,997 knew how to show it. 482 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,470 Narrator: But the family saw a dramatic change in Barbara 483 00:26:17,467 --> 00:26:20,597 when she proudly became a grandmother. 484 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,500 I can remember us having really deep conversations 485 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:27,770 about how much regret she felt 486 00:26:27,767 --> 00:26:30,767 from the kind of mother that she had been. 487 00:26:30,767 --> 00:26:33,367 And I can remember her saying, 488 00:26:33,367 --> 00:26:36,167 "This is my chance to make it up to you. 489 00:26:36,166 --> 00:26:38,196 I wanna be a great grandmother." 490 00:26:40,767 --> 00:26:43,367 Narrator: Barbara's daughters had no idea 491 00:26:43,367 --> 00:26:46,297 who would want to inflict such pain on their mother, 492 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,570 much less murder her. 493 00:26:49,567 --> 00:26:52,567 Hoping to learn more about this atrocity, 494 00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:54,767 Detective Martinez returned to the scene 495 00:26:54,767 --> 00:26:57,997 where they found Barbara and her dog buried. 496 00:26:59,767 --> 00:27:02,497 Martinez: I didn't suspect the current homeowners 497 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:05,270 because they hadn't been involved with that property 498 00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:07,666 but maybe six months at the most. 499 00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:12,397 And the remains were obviously older than six months. 500 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Narrator: If Martinez could determine how Barbara lived, 501 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,200 it may help him figure out how she died. 502 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Rampey: My mom didn't always make the best choices in men. 503 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,070 The four of us siblings lived with her 504 00:27:26,066 --> 00:27:28,766 and my stepdad for four years. 505 00:27:28,767 --> 00:27:31,267 But there were lots of things that were happening 506 00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:34,526 that should not be happening in a home with four children. 507 00:27:34,533 --> 00:27:37,473 There were many, many fights. 508 00:27:41,467 --> 00:27:43,197 We were the house on the street 509 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,300 where the police were called very often. 510 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:49,530 Narrator: Was it possible Barbara's ex-husband killed her? 511 00:27:49,533 --> 00:27:53,503 I never would've believed that. Never. 512 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,430 Narrator: When investigators learned 513 00:27:55,433 --> 00:27:58,103 he and Barbara parted ways more than 10 years ago, 514 00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:01,270 they didn't believe so either. 515 00:28:05,033 --> 00:28:07,303 Because of the violent nature of the crime, 516 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:09,570 detectives suspected Barbara's killer 517 00:28:09,567 --> 00:28:11,997 may have been someone she knew well. 518 00:28:14,166 --> 00:28:17,296 Perhaps intimately well. 519 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:22,030 And soon they learned there was another man in Barbara's life. 520 00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:26,603 Steve Swaim came into our life when I was in college. 521 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,600 I was the college kid and should be the one partying. 522 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,000 I noticed really how much the two of them drank together. 523 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,200 And, in fact, they met in a bar. 524 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,130 He was just this guy named Steve that my mom was dating. 525 00:28:40,133 --> 00:28:44,473 And I had no idea how long it would last or if it would last. 526 00:28:44,467 --> 00:28:47,327 Narrator: It did last, and Barbara's daughters got a glimpse 527 00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:50,633 into the dysfunctional relationship. 528 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,670 There were times where their disagreements 529 00:28:55,667 --> 00:28:58,097 crossed a lot of lines, a lot of boundaries. 530 00:29:01,066 --> 00:29:04,326 Narrator: Before long, the girls learned the love affair took a turn 531 00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:07,073 down a destructive road. 532 00:29:07,066 --> 00:29:09,096 I would definitely say my mom and Steve 533 00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,500 brought out the worst in each other. 534 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,500 He seemed domineering. 535 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:16,100 Steve kinda had that presence of gonna do things his way. 536 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:22,770 Wilson: My mom could be a really tough broad. 537 00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:24,367 My mom's not gonna back down. 538 00:29:24,367 --> 00:29:26,627 Martinez: They had got into an argument 539 00:29:26,633 --> 00:29:29,303 and she finally told him to move. 540 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,370 "Get out. Get out of my house." 541 00:29:32,367 --> 00:29:34,167 Narrator: Was it possible 542 00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:37,426 this passionate relationship turned to murder? 543 00:29:37,433 --> 00:29:39,233 Wilson: I can remember thinking 544 00:29:39,233 --> 00:29:41,373 "I hope she doesn't stay with this guy long," 545 00:29:41,367 --> 00:29:43,097 but I never suspected 546 00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,500 that he would do anything to hurt her. Never. 547 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:49,370 Narrator: It was a history Martinez couldn't ignore. 548 00:29:51,266 --> 00:29:53,596 He did some digging, curious if he could connect Steve 549 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,330 to the property where Barbara's body was found. 550 00:29:57,333 --> 00:30:02,203 Martinez: I asked the current owner as to who sold the property. 551 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,170 I was told that the previous owners were the Melina family. 552 00:30:08,533 --> 00:30:10,603 Narrator: Martinez tracked down the Melinas, 553 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,600 hoping they could shed some light on this baffling mystery. 554 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,130 Martinez: They had absolutely no knowledge 555 00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:21,273 of what was taking place at their previous home. 556 00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:25,526 But I learned her son from a previous marriage 557 00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:29,173 was none other than Steven Swaim. 558 00:30:32,433 --> 00:30:35,503 Narrator: The Melinas admitted Steve lived in a trailer 559 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,570 on the property around the time of the murder. 560 00:30:38,567 --> 00:30:41,297 Martinez: She provided me with the name of Barbara Weston 561 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:42,700 as the girlfriend. 562 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,300 And that she would stay with him off and on. 563 00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:49,430 They told me that the last time they saw Barbara was a day or two 564 00:30:49,433 --> 00:30:53,433 before their son told them that she left back to Oklahoma. 565 00:30:56,767 --> 00:31:00,767 Narrator: Was Steve Swaim the last person to see Barbara alive? 566 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:04,100 By this time, I'm feeling 567 00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:07,430 that Steve Swaim is my primary suspect. 568 00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:11,433 We needed to talk to him. 569 00:31:11,433 --> 00:31:13,133 Narrator: Steve Swaim may have been 570 00:31:13,133 --> 00:31:17,203 the detective's number one suspect, 571 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,170 but was he Barbara's killer? 572 00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:24,196 Wilson: We knew there was a monster out there. 573 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,200 I didn't want this to happen to anybody else. 574 00:31:39,066 --> 00:31:39,226 Narrator: 575 00:31:39,233 --> 00:31:39,573 Narrator: Three years after 576 00:31:39,567 --> 00:31:40,097 Narrator: Three years after the brutal beating death 577 00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:44,066 and burial of Barbara Weston and her dog, 578 00:31:44,066 --> 00:31:47,266 investigators suspected her ex-boyfriend 579 00:31:47,266 --> 00:31:49,466 may be the man behind her murder. 580 00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:55,096 Wilson: Some matches were made in heaven. 581 00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:56,770 Some matches were made in hell. 582 00:31:56,767 --> 00:31:58,367 And, looking back, 583 00:31:58,367 --> 00:32:00,097 that match was made in hell. 584 00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:03,630 Why would any woman stay with a man who-- 585 00:32:03,633 --> 00:32:06,033 like I said, a match made in hell. 586 00:32:06,033 --> 00:32:08,333 I don't know. Maybe she saw something in him 587 00:32:08,333 --> 00:32:12,233 that she felt like was good. 588 00:32:13,567 --> 00:32:15,367 And maybe she saw something in him 589 00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:18,227 that she felt like maybe she could fix 590 00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:20,373 or maybe she felt like they were a good match. 591 00:32:20,367 --> 00:32:21,597 I don't know. 592 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,500 Even though I was creeped out by Steve, 593 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:28,630 I never suspected he would do this. 594 00:32:33,233 --> 00:32:37,003 Narrator: Steve no longer had an address in town. 595 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,670 After a little legwork, 596 00:32:38,667 --> 00:32:40,527 Detective Martinez learned he was living up the road 597 00:32:40,533 --> 00:32:44,273 under his dad's roof. 598 00:32:44,266 --> 00:32:47,126 Martinez: I did a check on his father's name. 599 00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:52,473 And I found an address for him in Lake Los Angeles. 600 00:32:52,467 --> 00:32:56,397 Another small town in the Antelope Valley. 601 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Narrator: Martinez hightailed it up the road. 602 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,030 Hoping to surprise his suspect. 603 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,270 Martinez: We went there, knocked on his door. 604 00:33:06,266 --> 00:33:07,726 The father did answer the door. 605 00:33:07,734 --> 00:33:11,074 I inquired about his son, Steven Swaim. 606 00:33:11,066 --> 00:33:12,396 He says, "Yeah, he lives here, 607 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,530 but he's not currently here." 608 00:33:14,533 --> 00:33:17,533 Then he said, "He's out in the mountains 609 00:33:17,533 --> 00:33:20,573 and I don't expect him back." 610 00:33:20,567 --> 00:33:22,297 Narrator: Did Steve catch wind 611 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,700 that investigators were coming for him? 612 00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:29,300 Martinez hadn't a clue if or when Steve would return, 613 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:32,400 but had deputies keep a close eye on the house. 614 00:33:43,166 --> 00:33:47,096 Martinez: I get notified that Steve Swaim came home. 615 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:50,270 He was tall. He was over six feet tall. 616 00:33:51,233 --> 00:33:53,703 Scruffy looking guy. 617 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,770 Confronted him in front of his house. 618 00:33:56,767 --> 00:33:59,097 Narrator: Martinez was prepared for a suspect 619 00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:02,130 in fight-or-flight mode. 620 00:34:02,133 --> 00:34:04,433 He got neither. 621 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,400 Martinez: He was pretty humble at the time. 622 00:34:10,467 --> 00:34:12,597 He went willingly. 623 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,130 Narrator: Steve was hauled into the station. 624 00:34:15,133 --> 00:34:18,333 He had no idea he'd been marked as a murder suspect. 625 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,470 Martinez: Anytime I approach an interview, 626 00:34:22,467 --> 00:34:24,467 the plan begins to formulate 627 00:34:24,467 --> 00:34:28,067 once I start speaking with the individual. 628 00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:30,996 Narrator: Sensing Steve might be willing to talk, 629 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Detective Martinez started the interview slowly, 630 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,070 but would Steve open up? 631 00:34:36,066 --> 00:34:38,196 Martinez: I start talking to Steve 632 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,130 and I'm not hitting on the murder itself. 633 00:34:41,133 --> 00:34:45,233 I'm asking him about, "Who you dated, who you married." 634 00:34:45,233 --> 00:34:50,103 He starts naming off ex-girlfriends, an ex-wife. 635 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,200 He does come upon the name Barbara Weston. 636 00:34:54,233 --> 00:34:57,233 But he kinda skims over that. 637 00:34:57,233 --> 00:35:00,103 Narrator: The stakes were high. 638 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,430 Convinced he was face-to-face with Barbara's killer, 639 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,433 but with no physical evidence, 640 00:35:04,433 --> 00:35:08,573 Detective Martinez knew a confession was critical. 641 00:35:08,567 --> 00:35:12,597 His plan was to outsmart his suspect. 642 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,570 Martinez: Do we have to be the tough guy or can we be the buddy? 643 00:35:15,567 --> 00:35:18,767 In this case, we were the ones that understand 644 00:35:18,767 --> 00:35:20,627 what he's gone through. 645 00:35:20,633 --> 00:35:22,573 The conflicts that he had, 646 00:35:22,567 --> 00:35:24,527 and that pretty much softens him up. 647 00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:31,267 I backtracked and said, 648 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,266 "Tell me about Barbara Weston." 649 00:35:34,667 --> 00:35:38,397 He told us that she was a fine woman; 650 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,270 however, she drank and she was tough. 651 00:35:42,266 --> 00:35:45,396 And she was even tougher when she was drunk. 652 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,130 He loved her, 653 00:35:47,133 --> 00:35:49,673 but their relationship was very inconsistent. 654 00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:51,267 It was turmoil. 655 00:35:51,266 --> 00:35:53,666 Steve Swaim described this relationship 656 00:35:53,667 --> 00:35:56,267 like oil and water trying to mix. 657 00:35:56,266 --> 00:35:57,466 They just couldn't. 658 00:35:57,467 --> 00:35:59,027 There was always conflict. 659 00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:03,127 And he told me "We got into an argument, 660 00:36:03,133 --> 00:36:04,733 and then we got home from work." 661 00:36:04,734 --> 00:36:07,374 He found all her stuff was gone. 662 00:36:07,367 --> 00:36:09,097 That she was gone, 663 00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,770 and he assumed that she left back to Oklahoma, 664 00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:15,427 because that's where Barbara Weston was from, Oklahoma. 665 00:36:15,433 --> 00:36:17,573 Narrator: Certain Steve was lying, 666 00:36:17,567 --> 00:36:20,227 Martinez seized the moment. 667 00:36:20,233 --> 00:36:22,703 I told him, "No, she didn't." 668 00:36:24,567 --> 00:36:27,097 Gave me that little startled look. 669 00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:28,730 I said, "We found Barbara." 670 00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:37,430 He must've pushed his chair back a couple of feet. 671 00:36:37,433 --> 00:36:40,573 And then he said, 672 00:36:40,567 --> 00:36:42,127 "I don't think I can talk about it." 673 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:46,700 He said, "Man. 674 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,330 I was just getting over her. 675 00:36:48,333 --> 00:36:50,603 I was just starting to sleep better. 676 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,600 Now you guys bring all this back to me." 677 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200 Told him that once this is all out, 678 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,200 he would be a lot more comfortable 679 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,070 because there's nothing else to hide. 680 00:37:00,066 --> 00:37:02,326 And so he'll sleep a lot better. 681 00:37:04,734 --> 00:37:08,204 Narrator: Martinez sensed Steve was becoming unglued. 682 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,200 Martinez: He hadn't told anyone. 683 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,330 And this was the best opportunity for him 684 00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:14,603 to let everything out. 685 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,470 With the relationship 686 00:37:17,467 --> 00:37:20,997 that Steve Swaim and Barbara Weston were having, 687 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,030 it was inevitable that one was gonna wind up dead. 688 00:37:26,266 --> 00:37:29,326 What he described to me was a very violent scene. 689 00:37:44,133 --> 00:37:44,333 Narrator: 690 00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:44,773 Narrator: Two weeks after unearthing 691 00:37:44,767 --> 00:37:45,167 Narrator: Two weeks after unearthing the remains 692 00:37:45,767 --> 00:37:48,227 of Barbara Weston and her dog, 693 00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:51,233 Detective Joe Martinez believed Steve Swaim was on the verge 694 00:37:51,233 --> 00:37:54,103 of confessing to her murder. 695 00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,730 Martinez: When he found out 696 00:37:59,734 --> 00:38:01,774 that Barbara's remains had been exposed 697 00:38:01,767 --> 00:38:03,367 in his parents' backyard, 698 00:38:03,367 --> 00:38:05,467 he had a very stiff reaction to it. 699 00:38:05,467 --> 00:38:07,467 And then he said, 700 00:38:07,467 --> 00:38:10,267 "I don't think I can talk about it." 701 00:38:10,266 --> 00:38:15,126 I assured him he can talk about it. 702 00:38:15,133 --> 00:38:18,233 Narrator: After bearing the burden of his secret for so long, 703 00:38:18,233 --> 00:38:21,233 Steve Swaim finally started spilling the details 704 00:38:21,233 --> 00:38:24,373 of that deadly night three years earlier. 705 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,530 One evening, Barbara started complaining. 706 00:38:29,533 --> 00:38:33,673 So he went off to the store to get her some beer. 707 00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:35,497 When he gets back 708 00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:38,500 and Barbara sees the type of beer that he bought, 709 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:40,070 she flies off the handle. 710 00:38:40,066 --> 00:38:43,626 "Why'd you come back with such cheap beer?" 711 00:38:43,633 --> 00:38:46,003 Narrator: Steve admitted an argument exploded 712 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,070 into a flurry of violence. 713 00:38:52,433 --> 00:38:56,033 Barbara hit him, and that really upset him. 714 00:38:56,033 --> 00:38:59,633 He grabbed the knife sharpener and hit Barbara in the head. 715 00:39:01,567 --> 00:39:03,567 ( dog barking ) 716 00:39:06,133 --> 00:39:08,303 And she fell on the dog, 717 00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:11,030 and the dog was crying. 718 00:39:11,033 --> 00:39:13,573 He was just overcome with rage, 719 00:39:13,567 --> 00:39:17,027 and he grabbed the pipe wrench 720 00:39:17,033 --> 00:39:20,103 and he started hitting her in the head. 721 00:39:24,033 --> 00:39:25,573 ( dog barking ) 722 00:39:25,567 --> 00:39:28,697 And once that he saw that she was dead, 723 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:32,000 and the dog was still yapping, 724 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,470 he said that he hit the dog 725 00:39:34,467 --> 00:39:36,327 to take it out of its misery. 726 00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:38,473 ( dog barking ) 727 00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:40,597 ( barking stops ) 728 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,730 Then he placed a plastic bag over that dog's head 729 00:39:44,734 --> 00:39:49,734 and twisted a wire ligature around its neck until it died. 730 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,700 He wrapped both of them up in a blanket 731 00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:04,200 and the only thing he can think of was a hole 732 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,570 being used as a septic tank. 733 00:40:06,567 --> 00:40:10,597 So, he dropped them inside the septic tank. 734 00:40:15,767 --> 00:40:17,767 Gray: It was so upsetting. 735 00:40:17,767 --> 00:40:21,467 You're disposing of somebody in a most inhumane way, 736 00:40:21,467 --> 00:40:24,497 and then you kill her pet dog, 737 00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:27,330 and you dump him in the sewer, too. 738 00:40:27,333 --> 00:40:29,373 It's very cruel. 739 00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:35,730 Narrator: Three years after burying his darkest secret 740 00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:37,734 in the backyard of his parents' home, 741 00:40:37,734 --> 00:40:40,734 Steve Swaim was arrested. 742 00:40:40,734 --> 00:40:42,734 He pled not guilty 743 00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:44,504 and eventually stood trial 744 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:46,730 for the murder of Barbara Weston. 745 00:40:49,233 --> 00:40:51,233 Wilson: I just remember sitting 746 00:40:51,233 --> 00:40:54,503 outside those courtroom doors every day thinking, 747 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,530 "Who does that? 748 00:40:57,533 --> 00:40:59,533 Who takes somebody? 749 00:40:59,533 --> 00:41:02,673 Who kills their dog?" 750 00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:05,527 Martinez: The jury came back with second-degree murder, 751 00:41:05,533 --> 00:41:09,603 and Steve was sentenced to 16 years to life. 752 00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:16,500 I never wanted him to get out of prison. 753 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,670 And the attorney felt strongly 754 00:41:20,667 --> 00:41:23,127 that he never will. 755 00:41:23,133 --> 00:41:24,533 Wilson: I was happy with anything 756 00:41:24,533 --> 00:41:26,003 that would take him off the streets 757 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,400 and keep him put away. 758 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,270 I didn't want this to happen to anybody else. 759 00:41:30,266 --> 00:41:32,666 Martinez: It's unusual for people to get buried in the backyard. 760 00:41:32,667 --> 00:41:35,667 But some way, somehow, 761 00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:37,627 that victim is going to be discovered. 762 00:41:39,133 --> 00:41:42,173 To go from nothing, 763 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,166 to making an arrest, 764 00:41:44,166 --> 00:41:47,296 and have a final conclusions of a conviction, 765 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:50,300 and sending off the perpetrator to prison, 766 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:53,370 that is satisfying. 767 00:41:59,533 --> 00:42:02,573 Narrator: The senseless murder and appalling burial 768 00:42:02,567 --> 00:42:04,427 of Barbara Weston and her dog 769 00:42:04,433 --> 00:42:07,573 has forever changed the town of Littlerock, California. 770 00:42:07,567 --> 00:42:10,397 And yet it keeps on. 771 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,430 We've recovered really well from it, 772 00:42:12,433 --> 00:42:16,133 and a lot of positive things came out of it. 773 00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:19,433 Today a lot of people communicate with each other. 774 00:42:19,433 --> 00:42:23,473 A lot of people look out after each other. 775 00:42:23,467 --> 00:42:25,667 Narrator: As for Barbara's daughters, 776 00:42:25,667 --> 00:42:28,697 they look after their mom's memory. 777 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:30,470 Rampey: It was almost poetic 778 00:42:30,467 --> 00:42:33,467 that Willie was there with her. 779 00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:39,327 And it was Willie that helped people know who they were. 780 00:42:39,333 --> 00:42:42,333 Without Willie, who knows 781 00:42:42,333 --> 00:42:46,073 if they would've been able to identify her? 782 00:42:46,066 --> 00:42:49,426 Narrator: They know her grace and beauty would've continued to blossom 783 00:42:49,433 --> 00:42:52,203 with each passing year. 784 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,700 Wilson: I can say this 785 00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:55,730 with a very full heart, that I know she loved us. 786 00:42:55,734 --> 00:42:59,204 We lived in some strange circumstances sometimes, 787 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,730 and had some strange things go on. 788 00:43:00,734 --> 00:43:03,234 But you know what? We're all good people 789 00:43:03,233 --> 00:43:05,773 and successful people. 790 00:43:05,767 --> 00:43:10,097 And I think my mom did a fabulous job 791 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:13,500 with what she had. 792 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,500 Rampey: My mom is a perfect example 793 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:18,500 that people can make a lot of bad decisions, 794 00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:20,770 but people can change. 795 00:43:20,767 --> 00:43:24,627 And I would've loved to have seen 796 00:43:24,633 --> 00:43:26,473 the grandmother that she was gonna be. 59958

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