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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,600 And that's where I saw the plane debris, around there. 2 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,640 If it's from a crash, there are people who died. 3 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 So we immediately thought of the families. 4 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,560 That's when we got on the radio and called the police. 5 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Breaking news on the search 6 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,200 for Malaysia Airlines flight 370... 7 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,280 A piece of plane debris has washed up 8 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,160 on the French Indian Ocean island of La Réunion. 9 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,000 But investigators believe the debris in the images 10 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,520 is consistent with a Boeing 777, the same as the missing Malaysia jet. 11 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,160 - This seems real. - If it's a 777 part, it's MH370. 12 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,400 There's no doubt. There's nothing missing. 13 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,920 No doubt. Also, it has indications it's been in the water for a long time. 14 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,400 It's a terrible day for the families. 15 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,680 I personally lived in 100% complete denial about the plane having ended its flight 16 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,480 in some sort of crash. 17 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,920 So everything was spiraling out of control for my... for me, again, in my life. 18 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,240 For me, the debris was the point 19 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,080 at which I started thinking, 20 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,160 "Fine, they're not coming back." 21 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,680 We faced something that forced us to accept that they were here. 22 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,000 It's accepting 23 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,920 that they won't come back. That's it. 24 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,400 I personally don't believe MH370 crashed in the south Indian Ocean. 25 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,040 So, the first time I saw that in the news, 26 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,800 my honest feeling, 27 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,800 "Who planted it there?" 28 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,200 "Who brought the piece there?" 29 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,720 We don't have the answers. 30 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,480 This is one of the great mysteries in aviation history. 31 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,560 It is with a very heavy heart 32 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,360 that I must tell you 33 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:08,680 that an international team of experts have conclusively confirmed 34 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,760 that the aircraft debris found on Réunion Island 35 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,160 is indeed from MH370. 36 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,720 It's a huge break in the biggest aviation mystery in decades. 37 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,640 It was huge news among the people in the Independent Group. 38 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,920 It was the first hard evidence that the plane went down in the Indian Ocean. 39 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,440 The area where they think the plane came down. 40 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,960 All of those white dots simulate possible pieces of debris coming off MH370. 41 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,760 It was gratifying to learn that 42 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,280 it reinforced the theories that we had been advocating. 43 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Up to that point, the only information available 44 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,160 that the plane ended up in the southern Indian Ocean 45 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,560 was really the Inmarsat data. 46 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Now, the debris washing up was confirming that. 47 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,040 It was the first time that there was an independent bit of evidence 48 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,880 that the flight had ended up where we roughly said it had ended up. 49 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:22,040 When debris was found, 50 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,320 it put the lights out on the spoof scenario, 51 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,440 which was my theory that the Inmarsat data had been maliciously altered 52 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,720 to make it look like the plane went one way when it actually went the other. 53 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,600 The plane clearly had not gone north, 54 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,320 because here's a piece of the actual, physical plane. 55 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,640 But... 56 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,400 as I thought about it, 57 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,760 I thought to myself, "Okay." 58 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,280 "I need to convince myself 100% that this came from MH370." 59 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,200 My love of adventure and travel 60 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:09,120 and solving mysteries came from when I was very young. 61 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,480 I've always wanted to go to every country in the world 62 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,760 and learn about it and any unsolved mystery anywhere, 63 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:23,680 I wanted to be the one to solve it and know about it. 64 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,400 I'd been involved in a Facebook group 65 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,000 discussing Malaysia 370 66 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,160 and I wanted to know what I could possibly do to help. 67 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,440 So after the flaperon was found, 68 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,520 I knew that more debris was out there. 69 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,480 I talked to oceanographers. 70 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,000 I said, "Well, I want to go find more debris." 71 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,720 "Where should I go?" 72 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,200 And they said, 73 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,840 "There will be debris in the Mozambique Channel on the coast of Mozambique." 74 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,040 "Go there, and you'll get lucky." 75 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,960 And that's what I did. 76 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,040 So I went to Vilanculos, 77 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,880 a town on the Mozambique Channel. 78 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,720 And I asked people around Vilanculos 79 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,880 if they'd seen any aircraft debris. 80 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Now, I met a guy who said, "Ah, there's a sandbank." 81 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,880 "And that's where all the fishermen go to get their nets, buoys, floats." 82 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,800 So I went with him. 83 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,600 And we were walking along, 84 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,040 maybe about 20 or so odd minutes into the search, 85 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,960 and suddenly, 86 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,440 I'm like, "Whoa, what's that?" 87 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,400 So I walk over 88 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,920 and it's this gray triangle and it has "no step" written on it. 89 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:07,800 And I held it in my hands. 90 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,720 And I'll tell you, 91 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,800 that was the moment that I knew 92 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,000 in my heart and in my mind, 93 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,160 that I had a piece of Malaysia 370. 94 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,040 There are new developments tonight involving that piece of debris, 95 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 discovered off Eastern Africa, possibly belonging 96 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,120 to the missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370. 97 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,840 Malaysian authorities reiterated today that photographic evidence suggests 98 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,720 it likely came from a Boeing 777. 99 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,760 And we're hearing more from the American who found it. 100 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,400 This is definitely from an airplane. 101 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,360 This could be from a Boeing. 102 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,440 This could be from a 777. 103 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,760 This could possibly be 104 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,760 from Malaysia 370. 105 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,360 From the pictures shown, 106 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 there is a high probability of, uh... 107 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,080 the plane debris is from a Boeing 777. 108 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,560 I'd been told to go to Mozambique to look for debris. 109 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,200 I did and I found it. 110 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,440 I was also told by oceanographers that the best place was Madagascar. 111 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,320 So I went there 112 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,280 to find more debris. 113 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,720 Blaine Gibson has found at least 20 pieces of wreckage. 114 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Seven pieces are classified as almost certainly from MH370. 115 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:39,120 Another ten are likely or highly likely to be off the plane. 116 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,560 This is by far the most significant piece that has been found. 117 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,920 Blaine Alan Gibson 118 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,480 had displayed an uncanny knack for finding pieces of debris. 119 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:55,040 Something no one else had been able to do deliberately. 120 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,120 He's the only person who can go out, 121 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,880 walk along a beach and pull up a piece of debris. 122 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:09,920 This piece of debris, which we believe is from Malaysia 370... 123 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,880 Oh. Yeah, look. 124 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,600 Oh, my God. 125 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:21,760 And he is now responsible 126 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,240 for most of the pieces of debris of MH370 that have been recovered. 127 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,840 The majority of physical evidence about MH370 128 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,880 comes through the hands of one guy. 129 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,200 He's a modern-day Indiana Jones 130 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,360 who spent over two years scouring the world on a mission 131 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,760 to find answers about the Malaysian plane. 132 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,760 For Blaine, it seemed easy. 133 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,400 And the question that I had to ask was, 134 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,920 "How is this possible?" 135 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:51,000 If I had been right 136 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,360 that MH370 was a Russian plot that involved making it look, 137 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,120 falsely, 138 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,440 like the plane had gone into the southern Indian Ocean 139 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,960 then the implication was that the debris was part of that same plot 140 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,760 and was planted by someone working for the Russians. 141 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,400 And it wouldn't be the first time 142 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,240 that Russians had planted 143 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,200 false aircraft debris to mislead investigators. 144 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,360 Korean Airlines flight number 007 with 269 people aboard, 145 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,640 was on a flight from New York to Seoul via Alaska and Tokyo. 146 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,720 The state department says the plane was shot down 147 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,800 near the Soviet Sakhalin Island. 148 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Back in 1983, 149 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:36,880 the Soviets had shot down a Korean airliner over Japanese waters. 150 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,360 Japanese radio monitoring shows the Soviet jets 151 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,960 were controlled from the ground. 152 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,840 It's now a race against time for the retrieval of the black box. 153 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,720 As American and Japanese officials were looking for the wreckage, 154 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,280 the Soviets planted false acoustic pingers on the seabed to mislead their efforts. 155 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,880 Is it possible that this could be something like that? 156 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,720 I wondered if it would be possible to find any evidence 157 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,040 linking Blaine to Russia. 158 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:16,920 It turned out to be incredibly easy to find links between Russia and Blaine. 159 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,600 And I was able to pull registration records 160 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:24,560 that showed he had set up this company 161 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,320 with two business partners from central Russia 162 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,800 back in the early '90s. 163 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,320 He had been present when the Soviet Union had collapsed. 164 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 He could speak Russian fluently. 165 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,960 So he had, at this point, decades of links to Russia. 166 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,360 I very much doubt 167 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,400 that Jeff Wise would go on Netflix and accuse me of being a Russian spy. 168 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,080 He has absolutely no basis for that 169 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,960 and he knows that it would be very serious defamation. 170 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,160 The first time I heard about Blaine 171 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 was when he found his first debris. 172 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,120 It's a very funny story. 173 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,240 He gets on a boat, lands on a beach thinking, "Maybe there's debris there." 174 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,640 He spends two hours on that beach, finds debris, 175 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,960 and conveniently, 176 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 all the English-speaking media are there too. 177 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Weird, huh? 178 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,920 What a coincidence! 179 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Middle of nowhere. 180 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,480 On a deserted beach. 181 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,360 That's Blaine for you. 182 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,240 I've been accused of absolutely horrible things that are just... 183 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,440 They're so ridiculous, they are laughable. 184 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,440 I've been accused of being an American spy, 185 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,960 a Russian spy, 186 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,600 a Chinese spy, 187 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,040 an international organ trafficker, 188 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 an international sex trafficker. 189 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,720 I mean, you name it. 190 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,120 It is just patently ridiculous. 191 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,880 I really didn't have any proof 192 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,280 that he was connected to Russia's military intelligence, 193 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,280 or planted debris. 194 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,480 But I wasn't the only person to be suspicious about Blaine. 195 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,680 Blaine Gibson became the king of debris 196 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,320 on the east coast of Africa. 197 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:38,600 But I give zero credential or credibility to what he finds. That's for sure. 198 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,200 When you look at the Australian report on this debris, 199 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,680 they say that these pieces 200 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,320 are highly likely to be part of MH370. 201 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,440 "Highly likely" essentially means that they have not been able 202 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,560 to prove that it is part of MH370. 203 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,920 So they can only guess that it's possible because it looks like a piece of a plane. 204 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,240 But despite that, 205 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:14,240 the authorities had confirmed that the flaperon was part of MH370. 206 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:20,080 This was the first piece of debris found on the beach of Réunion Island. 207 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,800 And so, I was very eager to look at it in detail. 208 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,040 I started digging much deeper. 209 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,320 And the first thing which I heard 210 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,120 from an inside source within the investigation, 211 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,200 was that it was missing its ID plate. 212 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,840 A metallic part 213 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:48,280 which is either riveted or glued with a very specific mastic, 214 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:54,360 and which is obviously expected to sustain all kinds of pressure, 215 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,720 atmospheric, humidity, heat, cold. 216 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,800 I discovered that there is only one instance 217 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,520 where you do take off the ID plate from a plane part, 218 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,560 and this is when a plane is dismantled. 219 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,640 The fact that it was missing was an enormous red flag 220 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,480 that should have immediately made you think, 221 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,640 "Well, this must come from a dismantled plane." 222 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,400 Once the investigators realized that they don't have this ID plate, 223 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,080 they said, "Never mind, we will find other reference numbers 224 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,320 that eventually will help us identify where this debris comes from." 225 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,960 They say that several serial numbers 226 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,800 found on the flaperon were sent to the manufacturer 227 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,960 to try and find records in the archives of the plant. 228 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,840 I actually knew from an inside source within the investigation 229 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,240 that they had sent 12 numbers, 230 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,480 and that out of these 12, 231 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,720 there was only one serial number which was matching. 232 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Only one? 233 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,880 When I heard that I was like, "What?" 234 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,080 This is not good enough 235 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:23,720 to establish beyond doubt that this flaperon is part of MH370. 236 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,360 But despite that, 237 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,560 the flaperon is confirmed, uh, 238 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,080 as part of MH370. 239 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:42,040 An international team of experts have conclusively confirmed 240 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,440 that the aircraft debris is indeed from MH370. 241 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,720 The connection between the debris and the plane... 242 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,960 If you look at what we've been told, 243 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,960 it's pretty thin. "It's the same type of paint as the plane." 244 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,720 Or when they tell us, 245 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,480 "It was the only crash in the area, so it must be the plane." 246 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,480 Uh... 247 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,880 The proof of a connection between the debris 248 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,960 and the plane wasn't convincing. 249 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,080 We marked 1,000 days since MH370 disappeared 250 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,320 and decided that we would make a trip to Madagascar with Blaine. 251 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,360 The fact that Blaine was finding debris there was some form of inspiration. 252 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,080 There are a lot of people who don't like Blaine. 253 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,080 But personally, 254 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,160 he's always been very respectful of the next of kin and what we need. 255 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,280 I think it's completely unfair how Blaine's been treated. 256 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:13,160 I believe his intentions are good. 257 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:18,440 And I'm quite happy if he wants to go and keep searching for as long as he can. 258 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,160 So, God bless Blaine. 259 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,680 When we the families went to Madagascar ourselves 260 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,240 to search for the debris, 261 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,160 I had mixed feelings. 262 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,240 A kind of sorrow, 263 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,200 anger... 264 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,680 A kind of... 265 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,160 fear. 266 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,440 And the feeling... 267 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,080 of missing... 268 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,120 my mother. 269 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,120 Jiang Hui. 270 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,200 Mm. 271 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,600 - The same place. - Same place. 272 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,600 MH370 cove. 273 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,680 It's the same. 274 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,600 When I had the debris in my hand, 275 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,240 I thought, 276 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:32,080 "This was probably the thing 277 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,560 that was closest to my mother in her last moments." 278 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,280 This is an interesting piece. 279 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:41,400 Yeah. 280 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,400 Over the past two years, 281 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,240 everything's been thrown at the search in the plane's most likely resting place, 282 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,120 according to satellite imaging from the British company Inmarsat. 283 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,960 120,000 square kilometer area in the southern Indian Ocean. 284 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,640 But nothing has been found there yet. 285 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,280 The search stretched on for a very long time. 286 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,240 We'd been searching for over two years. 287 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,400 But the longer we searched, 288 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,840 the more certain we became that we would find it. 289 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,760 I met next of kin. 290 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,200 I absolutely empathized with what they were going through. 291 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,480 And, you know, 292 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,520 I tried to reassure them that we were doing everything we possibly could 293 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,960 to find the aircraft and... and bring their loved ones home. 294 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,520 So, we just needed to persevere. 295 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,920 We needed to continue. 296 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Maybe they genuinely wanted to keep going, sure. 297 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,040 But... 298 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,640 No, there was no chance they'd ever find the plane. 299 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,720 No chance. 300 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,280 The plane's not there. 301 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,240 By this time, the mystery is still unresolved. 302 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,920 We don't know what happened to the plane. 303 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,000 It still could be the pilot. 304 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,160 It still could be hijackers. 305 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,320 What happens next is probably the biggest gobstopper of all. 306 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,440 There is this explosive new report 307 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,080 that suggests the pilot who flew the downed MH370 plane 308 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,800 flew a similar route on a home simulator just a month before this plane went down. 309 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,640 From almost the very beginning, 310 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,840 we knew that the captain had a flight simulator in his basement. 311 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,200 This is a YouTube video that I made. 312 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,760 Many airline pilots really love flying 313 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,920 and it's not unusual at all that Zaharie had a flight simulator. 314 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,120 But if he flew the exact same route on the simulator 315 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,280 that the plane later turned out to have flown, 316 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,960 it's hard to imagine he could be innocent. 317 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,160 During the investigation, 318 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,240 hard drives from the home flight simulator belonging to the pilot of MH370, 319 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,720 they were obtained by investigators, given to the FBI. 320 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,040 The FBI then did a thorough analysis of those hard drives 321 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,960 and were able to find data points. According to this article... 322 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,560 It turns out that the FBI had known this information 323 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,280 ever since they'd gotten their hands on the simulator data. 324 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:45,680 But it only surfaced in the media two years later. 325 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,120 The yellow line is the presumed flight path that the plane took. 326 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,600 The red line is the one that was on that simulator. 327 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,560 The simulator data points seem to indicate 328 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,400 the plane followed a route up the Malacca Strait 329 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,360 and then into the southern Indian Ocean 330 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,520 until 331 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,920 the fuel runs out. 332 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,360 This could be the strongest evidence thus far. 333 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,760 When that evidence came out, that definitely raised a lot of eyebrows. 334 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,480 A lot of people thought that it could be a smoking gun. 335 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,240 But... this wasn't quite what it seemed. 336 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Yes, the simulated plane flew up the Malacca Strait, 337 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,280 but then it seems like the plane's location was manually changed. 338 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:46,800 He repositioned it by, essentially, taking the cursor 339 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,960 and moving it on a sort of global map down into the southern Indian Ocean. 340 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,720 He didn't actually fly into the southern Indian Ocean. 341 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,320 He just put it in the southern Indian Ocean, 342 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,920 actually hundreds of miles away from the search area. 343 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,480 So, as with anything in this case, you can see what you want to see. 344 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,200 The pilot flew a simulated flight that... 345 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,840 While I don't think taking the simulator data by itself 346 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,920 proves a whole lot, 347 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,840 it certainly correlates pretty well with the general facts as we know them. 348 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,920 And, you know, it's very odd that you would have a simulation end 349 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,000 with fuel exhaustion in the southern Indian Ocean. 350 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,120 That simulated flight... 351 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,680 The simulator data is not the whole puzzle. 352 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,520 It's just one piece in the puzzle that fits. 353 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,800 We've spoken to families this morning about this news, 354 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,640 they say they are frustrated by it. 355 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,320 When the incident happened, the pilot's flight simulator 356 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,480 was seized by the FBI at his home. 357 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,200 People need to understand that the FBI had this information before anyone else. 358 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,880 Then, a few years later, 359 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,680 "Ah! On the pilot's flight simulator is the same route he flew." 360 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,600 The FBI was up to something. 361 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:09,800 For me, once again, it's more proof the Americans are involved. 362 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,280 The FBI never handed anything either to the official inquiry in Malaysia 363 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,040 or to the French judges. 364 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,440 Not even one report. 365 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,440 So we'd like to know what they did. 366 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,280 I mean, the FBI isn't famous for its culture 367 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:34,520 of transparency. 368 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,040 But in this specific case, uh... 369 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:42,600 we're talking about a request for judicial cooperation, 370 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,680 as part of a judicial investigation benefitting from confidentiality. 371 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,400 I find it pretty scandalous that in a case such as this one, 372 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,640 we witness this much bad faith and such a silence. Really. 373 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,120 I believe Malaysia was 374 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,240 what we call in French, "The Stooge" in the story. 375 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,520 They were updated, kept quiet somehow. 376 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,320 So it's the Americans leading the investigation from the outset. 377 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,240 It's the British who are locating the plane, with Inmarsat. 378 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,240 Okay. 379 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,360 And it's the Australians leading the search. 380 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,920 Everybody's locked out. 381 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,160 "Move on, nothing to see here." 382 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,240 Nothing. 383 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Zero. 384 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,480 When you're a journalist, 385 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,680 of course you trust the authorities. 386 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,400 Your first instinct is not to imagine that these people are lying to you. 387 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,680 But as far as I was concerned, 388 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,600 the problem with this official narrative 389 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,680 of the plane crashing in the southern Indian Ocean 390 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,680 that everyone was expected to believe, 391 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,000 is that it had basically no proof. 392 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,720 First, if the official narrative is to be believed, 393 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,920 MH370 flew over the airspace of six different countries, 394 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:40,680 namely, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, 395 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,320 and eventually Australia. 396 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:47,480 Yet not a single one of these countries 397 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,960 have been able to produce 398 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,400 radar images of MH370. 399 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:01,280 Despite the fact that, yes, it is Malaysia who said, 400 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:05,040 "We have seen MH370 U-turn." 401 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240 So here's what they told us after a week, 402 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:16,120 "Our military radar saw the plane that night, fly back over Malaysia." 403 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,400 But... we've been given no proof that the Malaysians really saw the plane 404 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,800 on the radar that night. 405 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,560 - Utter confusion. - I don't think so. 406 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,720 the key elements don't come with proof attached. 407 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,240 So why believe the official story 408 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,920 when they're withholding essential pieces of evidence? 409 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,256 Excuse me? Why won't you speak to the relatives? 410 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,680 Another thing, which I found very interesting, 411 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,480 was the fact that MH370 supposedly flew over 412 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,720 an air base called Butterworth, 413 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,600 which is under Australian command. 414 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,320 How can you believe for a second 415 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:12,640 that a rogue B777 would fly over an air base 416 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,320 without immediately triggering the scrambling of jets, 417 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,040 some kind of interception, 418 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,680 some kind of alert? 419 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,560 No, not at all. 420 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,120 Nothing happens. 421 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,840 And all of this is all the more incredible 422 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680 when you realize that at that time... 423 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,080 ...when MH370 disappears, 424 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,120 we had two major military exercises going on 425 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,680 in the South China Sea involving the US. 426 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,840 So, in essence, 427 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,560 you had an incredible concentration 428 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120 of military power in the region. 429 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,680 It's completely inconceivable 430 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,720 that, in this day and age, we would lose a B777. 431 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,800 It's even more inconceivable that we would lose it 432 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,520 in such a highly-monitored region of the world. 433 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,800 This is completely not credible. 434 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,720 So the only thing we can rely on 435 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,480 to say the plane crashed in the southern Indian Ocean 436 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,440 is the handshake pings from Inmarsat. 437 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,960 So, the question you ask yourself is obviously, 438 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,800 "Who is Inmarsat?" 439 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,040 Very interestingly, 440 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,600 they actually have a specific branch called Inmarsat Government... 441 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,880 providing services to the militaries of the biggest powers in the world. 442 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,000 Including the US. 443 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:20,760 So, once you understand how close Inmarsat and the US government are, 444 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,560 is it that hard to believe that 445 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,520 the data provided by Inmarsat 446 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,480 was actually engineered or fabricated 447 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:39,160 in order to provide a cover-up for what truly happened to MH370? 448 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,240 In my opinion, 449 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,160 MH370 did not U-turn. 450 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Whatever happened, 451 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880 it happened in the South China Sea. 452 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,720 And I was not the only one to think this. 453 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,520 I knew what I had. 454 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,400 I knew that I had evidence in the South China Sea. 455 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,800 The more I searched, the more debris I found. 456 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,000 So, I feel certain that this is where MH370 ended up, 457 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,520 was off of Vietnam. 458 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,040 At that point, I already had contacted Malaysia Airlines. 459 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,320 I tried to reach out to so many people to tell them that this debris exists. 460 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,840 Nobody was listening to me. 461 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,720 Florence contacted me. We discussed MH370. 462 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,760 She asked me what I thought, and I told her what I had. 463 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,800 I told her, "We need to remember, we have the oil rig worker 464 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,560 that said he saw fire in the sky that night." 465 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,480 The Cathay pilots said they saw a large debris field. 466 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,120 What happened to them? 467 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,640 Where's that evidence? 468 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,800 When I talked to Florence, she said, "I've talked to several people 469 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920 and they tell me the same thing." 470 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200 This was just one more voice 471 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,920 telling me that there must be a cover-up of sorts of what truly happened 472 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,120 in that region that night. 473 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,280 At that point, I really wondered, 474 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,720 "What could it be that placed MH370 at the heart 475 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,800 of the greatest mystery of civil aviation?" 476 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,360 So, I looked very closely at the cargo. 477 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440 What I found was very interesting. 478 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,480 And that was 2.5. tons of electronics 479 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,520 listed as walkie-talkies, radio accessories, little things. 480 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,440 And this cargo had been delivered 481 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,960 under escort and loaded on MH370 the very night 482 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,600 without having been scanned. 483 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,240 I thought this was very odd. 484 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,720 It's public knowledge that China 485 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,040 was very eager to acquire 486 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,920 highly sensitive US technology 487 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,560 in the field of surveillance, stealth drone technology. 488 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,440 So, something like this could be at the heart 489 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640 of what happened to MH370. 490 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:01,200 Maybe the US found out that MH370 was actually carrying problematic cargo 491 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,840 to China at the eleventh hour 492 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:10,800 and did their utmost to stop the cargo from arriving to its destination. 493 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,480 That's when I remember Ghyslain told me that 494 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,800 two US AWACS planes were involved. 495 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,840 But I didn't really know what to do with it until I met someone 496 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,560 for a completely different conversation related to MH370. 497 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,600 And this source happened to be a former US Air Force member. 498 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,880 He said, "Oh, the AWACS." 499 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,400 "Their jamming capabilities are phenomenal." 500 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,520 And I think that's when the penny dropped for me. 501 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,880 Because I realized that the AWACS 502 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,200 had this capability to completely jam the communication system of MH370, 503 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,080 making it disappear from the screens 504 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,280 of the traffic controllers. 505 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,400 So now I finally had 506 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,520 a technical explanation to how and why 507 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,400 MH370 suddenly disappeared. 508 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,120 And I tried to pull all this together 509 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,520 in some kind of hypothetical scenario 510 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,760 covering what may have happened to MH370. 511 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,520 So we know that, on that night, 512 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,280 this very mysterious and very suspicious cargo, 513 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,720 without having been scanned, 514 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,560 and which has been delivered under escort... 515 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,320 is loaded on MH370. 516 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,680 The plane takes off as planned, 41 minutes after midnight. 517 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,160 The plane reaches its cruising altitude. 518 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,760 Malaysia 370, maintaining level 350. 519 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,200 Everything is completely normal. 520 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,960 So at 1:19 a.m., 521 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,120 MH370 is requested 522 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,400 to change over to the Vietnamese airspace. 523 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,280 Malaysian 370 contact Ho Chi Minh 120 decimal 9. 524 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,360 Good night. 525 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:57,160 Captain Zaharie signs off with his now infamous "good night." 526 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,720 Uh, good night, Malaysian 370. 527 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,360 So, MH370 enters a no man's land 528 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,880 and this is the perfect moment for an interception to take place. 529 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,920 So it's possible, in that moment, 530 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,360 the two US AWACS moved into action 531 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,760 and jammed MH370... 532 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,680 ...making it disappear from the radar. 533 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,520 Now, MH370 cannot communicate. 534 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,680 Maybe it receives an order from the AWACS to go and land 535 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,400 somewhere nearby. 536 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,760 When Captain Zaharie receives the order, 537 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,360 it's possible that he says, "No." 538 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,080 He does not accept this order. 539 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,360 One hundred degrees. 540 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,960 I think he just continued on his planned route, going to Beijing. 541 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,600 The tension would have continued to increase 542 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,920 as Zaharie refused the orders. 543 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,520 Eventually, MH370 is getting close to Chinese airspace. 544 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,000 So, the AWACS planes have to back off. 545 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,800 And, as horrible as it may seem, 546 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,560 they still need to stop the plane and its precious cargo 547 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,120 from arriving to Beijing. 548 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,280 So 549 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,480 either through a missile strike, 550 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,080 or a midair collision, 551 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,200 MH370... 552 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,200 met its fate. 553 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,640 I'm the first one to say that it sounds incredibly far-fetched 554 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,120 and that it has still some loose ends. 555 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:43,840 But I believe I'm certainly much closer to the truth than the official narrative. 556 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,920 The most important part of my job has been to demonstrate 557 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,640 that the official narrative was a fabrication. 558 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000 Oh, boy. 559 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,160 I'm just reluctant to talk about Florence or Jeff 560 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,720 or these conspiracy advocates. 561 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,640 Uh, they're just such a distraction. 562 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,680 I've been watching people like Florence get tremendous publicity for her book. 563 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,760 All kinds of interviews. 564 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,280 All kinds of newspapers. 565 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:33,840 These are people 566 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,040 that don't really understand the facts and the data. 567 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,200 The accusations that somehow Inmarsat 568 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680 fabricated or manipulated the data 569 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,080 are... are simply wrong. 570 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,520 The data is the data. 571 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,680 I... I don't understand why anyone would think 572 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,000 that we would want to manipulate or change any data associated with this. 573 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,240 It's not who we are and to accuse things differently is... 574 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,480 I find it hurtful and... and... 575 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,920 Uh, yeah, it impacts me. 576 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,840 The theory that this plane was shot down in the South China Sea... 577 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,760 No. 578 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,880 There'd be debris all over the South China Sea, the Gulf of Thailand... 579 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,440 And that means that the radar turning back is wrong. 580 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,000 That means that the Inmarsat data is wrong. 581 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,960 That basically denies all the evidence that there is. 582 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,800 I mean, there's no way that you could get China, 583 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,520 America, Australia, England, 584 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,360 Malaysia, Vietnam, all together 585 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,080 to have a big conspiracy to cover up what happened to the plane. 586 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,920 Those guys aren't friends. 587 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,960 They're going to squeal. They're going to talk. 588 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,080 So, there's just no way. 589 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,760 It just didn't happen. 590 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,120 I think, unfortunately, 591 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,760 some people were so into their own little theories and agendas, and so on, 592 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,160 that they seem to be losing objectivity. 593 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:14,920 And that's sad. 594 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,360 Jeff Wise joins me now. Thanks so much for being with us. 595 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,080 First of all, do you really think it went to Kazakhstan? 596 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,280 At the risk of sounding flippant, um... 597 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,920 opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. 598 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,440 Um... 599 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,240 Cut that, please. 600 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,840 But it's true. 601 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:40,680 I mean, I've heard every sort of theory, every sort of conspiracy theory. 602 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,080 You know, I just find it galling and extraordinary 603 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,760 that people could, 604 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,840 um... 605 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,240 in the face of the evidence, 606 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,160 come up with some of the most bizarre and crazy conspiracy theories. 607 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,120 The search is over for the missing Malaysian airliner 608 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,040 that vanished nearly three years ago. 609 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,760 Investigators overnight officially suspended the effort 610 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,560 to find the Boeing 777 with 239 people aboard. 611 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,720 We need to suspend the search until further credible evidence. 612 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,880 That was a huge, very heartbreaking moment for, like, all the next of kin, 613 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,760 because our hopes were largely pinned on the... 614 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,760 the continuation of the search. 615 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,720 I don... I felt completely shattered. 616 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,000 Voice 370, a support group for next of kin, said in a statement, 617 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,120 "Commercial planes cannot be allowed to disappear without a trace." 618 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:45,080 How could such a long search not produce any, like, result? 619 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,600 Not even... Like, zero. Nothing. 620 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,560 We felt really bad. 621 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,840 It was, um... We'd been so involved for such a long time. 622 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,440 To ultimately fail, um, impacted on all of us. 623 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,280 We... We grieved. 624 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,360 And we felt we'd let the families down. 625 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,480 This will never leave any of us until such time as that aircraft is found. 626 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,600 And there are still 239 souls on board 627 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:31,960 who need to go home. 628 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,360 Investigators released their final report overnight 629 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,440 on the disappearance 630 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,960 of Malaysia Airlines flight 370. 631 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,680 The investigative team says the Boeing 777 was airworthy. 632 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,880 The pilot was very competent 633 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,960 and showed no signs of stress or behavioral changes. 634 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,680 And they cannot rule out unlawful interference by a third party. 635 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,800 Good evening... 636 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,960 We are unable to determine with any certainty 637 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:27,360 the reasons that the aircraft diverted from its far flight plan route. 638 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,960 It is so frustrating that every time we come for a meeting like this, 639 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,600 nobody, nobody is able to answer any of our questions. 640 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,880 The only good thing that happened 641 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:07,240 was that they stopped accusing Captain Zaharie 642 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,680 of bringing down MH370. 643 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,880 Eventually, 644 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,960 even the official investigation stopped short of accusing the pilot. 645 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,440 They're not saying it anymore. 646 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,520 The only conclusion is that it wasn't the pilot. 647 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,120 It obviously wasn't the pilot. 648 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,600 So, the Malaysian official investigation is over. 649 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,880 They don't have an answer but they're done anyway. 650 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,200 That's what's good about the French justice system. 651 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,000 They can't stop, they're not allowed to stop 652 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,720 until they find the truth. So that's good, and it works for us. 653 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,400 I don't want to stop either until we have an answer. 654 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,480 If it takes ten years, then it takes ten years. 655 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,480 What's so mania-forming about MH370 656 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,560 is that it's incredibly important. 657 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640 We're talking about hundreds of human lives 658 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:30,560 and the entirety of the world air transport system. 659 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,560 So it really matters. 660 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,160 So, did MH370 drive me mad? 661 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,960 Yes! But it needed to drive me mad. 662 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,560 It's important. And it's good that it drove me mad. 663 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,080 It's a reasonable assumption 664 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,480 that the disappearance of MH370 was an intentional act. 665 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,600 And part of the mystery is, "Who did it?" 666 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,120 As much as I'd like to know the answer, we may never know. 667 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,040 And we just have to live with that. 668 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,360 There's another part of the mystery, "Where is it?" 669 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:16,520 And that is a question with a definitive, concrete answer. 670 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,200 Because the existence of this plane is a tangible reality. 671 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,680 It is somewhere. 672 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,640 And everybody wants the same thing. 673 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,920 Everybody wants to find MH370. 674 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,720 For all of these families who've lived in this state of limbo 675 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,200 ever since that day, 676 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,640 it seems, sadly, that that state of not knowing 677 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:48,120 is going to continue, uh, for the foreseeable future. 678 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,320 We need to bring the answers to the families. 679 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,160 We need to bring the answers to the flying public. 680 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,880 We need to show that a plane can't just disappear. 681 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,360 We owe them the proof. 682 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,560 We owe them the explanation. 683 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,640 We owe them that closure. 684 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,920 Well, I don't know whether I'll ever get closure but... 685 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,400 I will try for as long as I can to find my mother, 686 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,040 to find out what happened. 687 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,520 I believe there are people out there 688 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,440 who know something, who know the true story. 689 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,840 We're still here and waiting for answers. 690 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,280 We want answers. 691 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,040 It's hard to think 692 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,640 that we will get the answers to what happened. 693 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,840 I promised him from day dot 694 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,800 that I would bring him home and I would find him. 695 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,200 I haven't done that. 696 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,880 And until I do, 697 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,920 there will be no peace. 698 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,360 Yeah, we're still hopeful. We'll never leave hope behind. 699 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,160 We'll never ever leave hope behind, no matter what happens. 700 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,400 We deserve to know the truth. 701 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,320 My... My children deserve to know... 702 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,360 the truth. 57309

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