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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,299 --> 00:00:02,869 (suspenseful ethereal music) 2 00:00:02,870 --> 00:00:05,430 - [Sue] Venus and Earth are the twin planets. 3 00:00:05,430 --> 00:00:09,370 We've seen thousands of exoplanets around other stars 4 00:00:09,370 --> 00:00:12,030 but Venus is still the planet most like Earth. 5 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:16,480 - [Tony] The surface of Venus is hot enough to melt lead. 6 00:00:17,610 --> 00:00:19,480 - [Jonathan] Venus is incredibly hot, 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,590 it has what we call a runaway greenhouse, 8 00:00:21,590 --> 00:00:24,940 where it's sort of the extreme state of what happens 9 00:00:24,940 --> 00:00:28,230 if you let a greenhouse go completely crazy 10 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:29,480 on an Earth-like planet. 11 00:00:30,670 --> 00:00:33,190 - [Rosaly] Venus is kind of a warning 12 00:00:33,190 --> 00:00:37,300 that we have to pay attention to what's happening 13 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:39,160 to the atmosphere of the Earth. 14 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:42,730 We don't want the Earth to become evil like Venus. 15 00:00:42,729 --> 00:00:46,479 (suspenseful ethereal music) 16 00:00:50,450 --> 00:00:52,640 - Venus and Earth are actually really similar 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,780 in many, many ways. 18 00:00:53,780 --> 00:00:55,700 They are almost exactly the same size, 19 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:58,090 and they have similar gravity. 20 00:00:58,090 --> 00:01:01,460 Venus has about 90% of Earth's gravity. 21 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:04,010 And we think that they both formed in a similar part 22 00:01:04,010 --> 00:01:06,370 of the solar system at about the same time 23 00:01:06,370 --> 00:01:08,320 from more or less the same materials. 24 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:11,180 So they, they really should have a lot of similarities, 25 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:13,270 we see they both have atmospheres, 26 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:17,060 they both show the same types of geologic processes 27 00:01:17,060 --> 00:01:19,740 on their surfaces with volcanoes 28 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:21,440 and tectonic regions, 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,140 which is where the crust is moving around. 30 00:01:25,070 --> 00:01:27,120 - It's the only planet 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,770 that is likely to be still geologically active 32 00:01:29,770 --> 00:01:32,130 in some of the same ways as, as the Earth. 33 00:01:32,130 --> 00:01:34,490 It has a similar bulk composition. 34 00:01:34,490 --> 00:01:37,030 It has an atmosphere, a huge atmosphere, 35 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:39,060 one of the very few plants in our atmosphere 36 00:01:39,060 --> 00:01:41,010 to have a huge atmosphere. 37 00:01:41,010 --> 00:01:43,910 - [Lori] That thick carbon dioxide atmosphere acts 38 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:44,760 as a greenhouse, 39 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,980 warming the surface to hundreds of degrees Fahrenheit, 40 00:01:48,980 --> 00:01:51,670 and pressures that are like being about mile deep 41 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:52,590 in the ocean. 42 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:54,950 At Venus, there's no magnetic field, 43 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:56,300 whereas at Earth, there is. 44 00:01:57,260 --> 00:02:01,980 - [Rosaly] So Venus is kind of the Earth's evil twin sister. 45 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:06,980 It shows how two worlds of similar size, similar density, 46 00:02:07,090 --> 00:02:11,520 not that far apart in terms of distance to the sun, 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,280 evolved very differently. 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,790 - So the real core question it comes down to 49 00:02:15,790 --> 00:02:19,920 is what was it in Venus's and Earth's history 50 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:21,810 that made these two similar planets 51 00:02:21,810 --> 00:02:24,400 take very different paths. 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,940 And then how do we apply that 53 00:02:25,940 --> 00:02:28,500 to planets beyond our solar system 54 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:31,150 and look at how understanding Venus could help us 55 00:02:31,150 --> 00:02:33,770 better understand what exoplanets are like, 56 00:02:33,770 --> 00:02:35,560 and which ones are the ones 57 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,990 that could potentially harbor life like Earth? 58 00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:40,190 And which ones are those that are like Venus 59 00:02:40,190 --> 00:02:43,290 and are very hostile to life? 60 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:47,430 - [Mike] We believe that Earth and Venus formed 61 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:50,780 around the same time in our original circumstellar disc. 62 00:02:50,780 --> 00:02:52,740 They are probably geo-chemically very similar 63 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:55,840 because they formed very close to each other in the disc, 64 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,820 much closer than Earth did to Mars and from what we know 65 00:02:58,820 --> 00:03:02,240 about the geo-chemical similarities between Venus and Earth 66 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,110 and Earth and Mars, 67 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:05,470 certainly we believe that Earth is more similar to Venus 68 00:03:05,470 --> 00:03:06,670 than it is to Mars. 69 00:03:06,670 --> 00:03:08,400 We don't know that much about Venus 70 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,440 because we haven't sent enough missions there 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,820 as we have for Mars. 72 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:14,450 It does have similar amounts of carbon dioxide 73 00:03:14,450 --> 00:03:17,450 in its surface and in its atmosphere compared to Earth. 74 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:24,090 - Venus is, in some sense, the poster child 75 00:03:24,090 --> 00:03:28,380 for the greenhouse effect of carbon dioxide. 76 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:32,270 It's a planet that has much more carbon dioxide 77 00:03:32,270 --> 00:03:34,770 than the Earth has in its atmosphere. 78 00:03:34,770 --> 00:03:38,210 And even though it is covered 79 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:40,710 by this bright sulfuric acid haze, 80 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:44,470 Venus reflects 70-something percent of the sunlight 81 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:46,430 that reaches it, so even though it's very close, 82 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:49,690 it actually doesn't get nearly as much sunlight 83 00:03:49,690 --> 00:03:51,840 as you imagine because of that haze. 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Yet it's got this crushingly hot surface. 85 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,190 And the only way to explain that 86 00:03:58,190 --> 00:04:01,610 is because of the greenhouse effect of the carbon dioxide. 87 00:04:01,610 --> 00:04:03,020 Venus tells us 88 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:06,360 that the greenhouse effect is a real phenomenon. 89 00:04:07,870 --> 00:04:08,830 - [David] Venus, in many ways, 90 00:04:08,830 --> 00:04:13,830 is an extreme case of some of Earth's environmental issues. 91 00:04:14,150 --> 00:04:17,230 I mean, the most obvious one being global warming 92 00:04:17,230 --> 00:04:19,100 and the greenhouse effect, 93 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:22,000 which is something we're all obviously aware of 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,670 here on Earth because the amount of CO2 has risen 95 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:28,150 above 400 parts per million, 96 00:04:28,150 --> 00:04:31,010 and that is causing global warming 97 00:04:31,010 --> 00:04:34,030 because of the infrared absorption of CO2. 98 00:04:34,030 --> 00:04:38,030 And yet here's Venus, the Earth-sized planet next door 99 00:04:38,030 --> 00:04:42,950 with an atmosphere that is almost 100% CO2. 100 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:46,420 Venus, as far we can tell, was a habitable planet 101 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:47,630 for some time 102 00:04:47,630 --> 00:04:50,530 before it went through this runaway greenhouse transition. 103 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:53,810 - Imagine a graph where we have, 104 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:55,880 you know, temperature versus CO2. 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,460 And so Earth is in this section over here, 106 00:04:58,460 --> 00:05:00,200 right, 'cause we have this much CO2. 107 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,940 So if we want to understand this process, 108 00:05:01,940 --> 00:05:04,630 Venus offers data up here, right? 109 00:05:04,630 --> 00:05:07,330 Another set of data points that we can use 110 00:05:07,330 --> 00:05:12,230 to sort of link how much CO2 do we need before this happens? 111 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:15,540 When do we get into a position where we're really in trouble 112 00:05:15,540 --> 00:05:17,060 and there's nothing we can do about it 113 00:05:17,060 --> 00:05:18,250 except move to Mars? 114 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:22,520 - [Tony] We don't expect the Earth 115 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,210 to turn into Venus anytime soon. 116 00:05:26,070 --> 00:05:29,300 Humankind is putting more and more carbon dioxide 117 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:30,530 into the atmosphere 118 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:34,360 as humankind has been doing now for a few centuries, 119 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,990 since the Industrial Revolution began. 120 00:05:36,990 --> 00:05:39,760 We know that the climate is going to get warmer. 121 00:05:40,620 --> 00:05:42,330 How warm it will get depends 122 00:05:42,330 --> 00:05:45,630 on how much carbon dioxide we put into the atmosphere. 123 00:05:45,630 --> 00:05:46,740 Humans are not going to be able 124 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:49,550 to put enough carbon dioxide into the atmosphere 125 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:52,200 to turn the Earth into Venus. 126 00:05:53,550 --> 00:05:55,960 - So there's this whole long-term cycle 127 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,030 where the carbon comes out of volcanoes 128 00:05:58,030 --> 00:05:59,760 and ends up in the atmosphere 129 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,910 and then gets pulled out by chemistry 130 00:06:01,910 --> 00:06:03,190 and made into carbonate rocks, 131 00:06:03,190 --> 00:06:05,500 which get deposited on the ocean floor 132 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:07,440 and then subducted by plate tectonics 133 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,910 into the interior of the planet 134 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:10,870 and ultimately sort of heated and squished 135 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:13,750 to the point where the carbon dioxide is, is released 136 00:06:13,750 --> 00:06:15,530 and then comes out again in a volcano. 137 00:06:15,530 --> 00:06:17,970 That's a cycle that takes millions of years 138 00:06:17,970 --> 00:06:20,330 and it ultimately regulates the carbon 139 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:21,690 in Earth's atmosphere, of course, 140 00:06:21,690 --> 00:06:24,050 recently, we've been perturbing it with our automobiles 141 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:25,270 and smoke stacks and things, 142 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:29,200 but that's all probably a temporary sharp perturbation 143 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,400 in what is a multi-million-year cycle 144 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,470 that's been operating for billions of years. 145 00:06:33,470 --> 00:06:35,690 Now, compare that to Venus. 146 00:06:35,690 --> 00:06:39,850 We think that early on Venus probably had a similar cycle 147 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:42,620 because it has volcanoes, it had volcanoes, 148 00:06:42,620 --> 00:06:44,820 it's probably been volcanically active its whole life. 149 00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:47,220 And it used to, we believe, have an ocean 150 00:06:47,220 --> 00:06:50,000 which facilitated those weathering reactions 151 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,620 that pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. 152 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,260 - Part of the issue is that Venus no longer has an ocean. 153 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,490 We think it had an ocean earlier in its history, 154 00:06:59,490 --> 00:07:02,430 we don't really know when water was lost. 155 00:07:02,430 --> 00:07:04,080 Having an ocean is an important part 156 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,790 of pulling carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. 157 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:09,310 We think that Earth and Venus have similar amounts 158 00:07:09,310 --> 00:07:10,920 of carbon dioxide. 159 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,050 But, on Earth, those are locked up in carbonate rocks. 160 00:07:14,050 --> 00:07:17,300 And those carbonate rocks often are subducted 161 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:18,910 back into the interior, 162 00:07:18,910 --> 00:07:21,770 sequestered, in effect, by geologic processes. 163 00:07:22,770 --> 00:07:24,160 - [Martha] So you need an ocean. 164 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,130 And we hope that we can find evidence 165 00:07:29,130 --> 00:07:32,770 in early Venus history of sequestering 166 00:07:32,770 --> 00:07:34,380 of carbon in rocks. 167 00:07:34,380 --> 00:07:35,840 That's what we look for on Mars, 168 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,700 that's, a lot of Mars work has been to look 169 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:40,290 for those carbonate rocks on Mars. 170 00:07:40,290 --> 00:07:42,260 What Venus shows us, without a doubt, 171 00:07:42,260 --> 00:07:43,750 is that there is a relationship 172 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:46,590 between the amount of CO2 you have in an atmosphere 173 00:07:46,590 --> 00:07:47,900 and the temperature. 174 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,140 - [Sue] Will the Earth become 500 degrees Celsius, 175 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:54,430 900 degrees Fahrenheit? 176 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:56,060 That's really not likely to happen. 177 00:07:56,060 --> 00:07:58,670 But understanding chemical reactions 178 00:07:58,670 --> 00:08:01,930 in this very active atmosphere that Venus has 179 00:08:01,930 --> 00:08:04,950 is so important for being able to understand 180 00:08:04,950 --> 00:08:06,760 how climate change comes about. 181 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,100 What are the important chemicals, 182 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:09,600 what are the important processes? 183 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,530 So we really have a lot to learn 184 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:12,980 from the atmosphere of Venus. 185 00:08:14,030 --> 00:08:17,390 - [David] For example, acid rain is a problem here on Earth 186 00:08:17,390 --> 00:08:20,240 because of sulfur dioxide from our smoke stacks 187 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,860 getting into the clouds and mixing with water 188 00:08:22,856 --> 00:08:24,776 and making strong acid. 189 00:08:24,780 --> 00:08:27,920 Well, Venus, again, is sort of the poster child for, 190 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,010 for that condition with clouds 191 00:08:30,010 --> 00:08:33,410 that are basically made out of purer sulfuric acid, 192 00:08:33,410 --> 00:08:34,830 and so it's, it's a place 193 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:38,290 where we can study this environmental problem, acid rain, 194 00:08:38,290 --> 00:08:41,810 in its most extreme manifestation. 195 00:08:41,810 --> 00:08:44,130 And to give one more example, 196 00:08:44,130 --> 00:08:46,480 another problem of our own making 197 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,720 is the problem with the ozone hole 198 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,890 and the ozone layer being eroded 199 00:08:50,890 --> 00:08:54,010 by these chemicals, these chlorofluorocarbons 200 00:08:54,010 --> 00:08:56,430 that we released into the atmosphere 201 00:08:56,430 --> 00:08:58,980 where the chlorine gets loose 202 00:08:58,980 --> 00:09:00,810 because of ultraviolet light in the stratosphere 203 00:09:00,810 --> 00:09:03,880 and destroys ozone, which then becomes a threat 204 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,050 to life here on the surface of the planet. 205 00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:10,230 Well, one of the ways we discovered the ozone layer 206 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:13,020 was being eroded on Earth came about 207 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:15,770 because we were studying the upper atmosphere of Venus. 208 00:09:16,642 --> 00:09:19,712 - [Sue] Venus's atmosphere is so intriguing. 209 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:24,030 We actually found the ozone hole on the Earth 210 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:26,600 because people were studying chemistry 211 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,870 of what was going on in the atmosphere, 212 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:29,890 upper atmosphere of Venus. 213 00:09:29,890 --> 00:09:32,120 - Some scientists were trying to understand why, 214 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,150 why isn't there more ozone on Venus, 215 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:36,090 why aren't there more oxygen compounds 216 00:09:36,090 --> 00:09:37,830 in the high atmosphere of Venus? 217 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:40,300 And some other scientists said, well, you know, 218 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:42,190 we've seen these experiments with chlorine 219 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:45,690 and chlorine can, can destroy oxygen compounds. 220 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:47,980 And then they came out with a paper 221 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:50,800 saying we think it's chlorine that is destroying ozone 222 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,630 on Venus. 223 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:54,403 Some other scientists saw that paper. 224 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,310 - And it made them ask this question, well, 225 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:58,350 what's going on in the upper atmosphere of Earth, 226 00:09:58,350 --> 00:10:01,600 are there similar types of chemical reactions going on? 227 00:10:02,580 --> 00:10:03,730 - And they said, oh, that's interesting, 228 00:10:03,730 --> 00:10:05,760 what about these, these chlorine compounds 229 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,960 that we're putting up into the atmosphere on Earth, 230 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,230 that, couldn't that, and they said, uh oh, wait a minute. 231 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:14,130 And that helped them realize what was happening 232 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:16,970 and help them sort of sound the alarm. 233 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:19,230 - Look at that huge difference that that made 234 00:10:19,230 --> 00:10:23,210 in terms of discovering the ozone hole on the Earth 235 00:10:23,210 --> 00:10:25,460 and, you know, since people have taken action 236 00:10:25,460 --> 00:10:28,170 to actually stop putting those chemicals into the atmosphere 237 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:31,010 that was creating such a destructive process. 238 00:10:31,010 --> 00:10:33,770 - And, indeed, that's an example where we've responded 239 00:10:33,770 --> 00:10:35,810 in a healthy way to this knowledge 240 00:10:35,810 --> 00:10:37,620 that we were doing something to our planet 241 00:10:37,620 --> 00:10:40,020 and have taken measures to fix it. 242 00:10:40,020 --> 00:10:40,850 And it came about 243 00:10:40,853 --> 00:10:43,333 partly because we were studying this neighboring planet 244 00:10:43,330 --> 00:10:44,690 out of pure curiosity, 245 00:10:44,690 --> 00:10:47,170 trying to understand the chemistry there. 246 00:10:48,910 --> 00:10:53,360 - The link between innovation and expanding our thinking 247 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,800 is not linear. 248 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,350 In science and technology, 249 00:10:56,350 --> 00:10:58,040 you don't plan for that necessarily, 250 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,880 you don't say, okay, I'm gonna discover this great thing, 251 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:01,740 and I'm gonna start here, 252 00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:05,020 and I'm gonna, at the end will be this great discovery. 253 00:11:05,020 --> 00:11:09,270 That comes from a lot of tries and a lot of failure. 254 00:11:09,270 --> 00:11:11,240 And if we don't push at the limits 255 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,430 of what we can do as a society, we won't succeed. 256 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:16,700 That's the way it works. 257 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:19,920 That's what we do as scientists. 258 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,060 That's why we sail across the ocean. 259 00:11:22,060 --> 00:11:23,420 That's why we climb the mountain. 260 00:11:23,420 --> 00:11:26,150 And that's why we should go to Venus. 261 00:11:26,145 --> 00:11:29,475 (mellow ethereal music) 19811

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